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[00:17] yes [00:17] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [00:18] 'it's dead jim' [00:18] Well I'll be afk for a little while, have fun. :P [00:18] oh yeah, CHANNEL, WAKE UP. :P [00:18] IM WAKED UP [00:18] :D [00:18] Two to beam aboard. Energize! [00:19] just woke up [00:19] but ill return to bed [00:19] just burning cig [00:20] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@155.86.215.200.res.nat.netvision.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:20] Action: BP{k} beams rob0 overboard [00:21] transporters and holodecks are cool [00:21] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] man.. if geeks had holodecks in their computer rooms... they'd never need anything else outside of their computer room... [00:22] it'd be like "Computer..... bathroom" [00:22] "Computer... steak.. medium rare... Cold Lager" [00:22] computer slab of ribs [00:23] "computer .. buhkit!" 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[00:27] Nick change: beta_ -> Beta2K [00:27] a replicator would be good too, transporter, holodeck, and replicator and all is good [00:28] Dont forget a buttload of quantum torpedos to take care of bad guys [00:28] pft... steaks. computer, brunette, long legs, a few handfuls, submissive, pork-me-eyes [00:29] edman007: dunno [00:29] Beta2K: just ask your question [00:30] picard: 'we strive to better ourselves'.... sure. he's just the type to have many, many whores in the holodeck [00:30] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.12.109) joined ##slackware. [00:30] now that was Reggie [00:30] twolf, if i have a replicator what would i need a holodeck for? i'll just replicate everything i want in real life! [00:30] Well, I've updated to -current from 12.2 and now my build environment is borked :) [00:31] standard header files that are kicking syntax errors [00:31] reg admitted it. picard is silent. silent ones are almost always the horniest. [00:31] Beta2K: What was your procedure and di you read UPGRADE.txt? [00:31] almost all of them are related to not being able to find size_t [00:32] I did a slackpkg --upgrade glib, ect, then slackpkg --install-new [00:32] you didn't do upgrade-all did you? [00:32] I have since then to update my -current [00:32] usually you want to upgrade glibc-solibs first and pkgtools [00:33] I did that [00:34] risperidon (n=risperid@189.115.207.6) left irc: Client Quit [00:34] LifeForce4 (n=LF4@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [00:34] LifeForce4 (n=LF4@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Client Quit [00:34] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.9.174) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:37] LifeForce4 (n=LF4@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [00:37] hosl (n=UNIX@189.30.141.146) left irc: Connection timed out [00:38] Simbioz (n=simbiozz@190.96.33.204) left ##slackware. [00:38] hba (n=hba@189.188.140.249) left irc: "leaving" [00:39] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [00:44] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:46] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [00:54] Nick change: LifeForce4 -> LF4 [01:00] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:00] new pidgin fixes yahoo nonsense [01:01] is it called the no-nonsense plugin? [01:01] it's called a new version [01:01] oh [01:01] i thought you said new plugin [01:07] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:07] freack (n=frk@189.58.216.219.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:13] 2.5.7? [01:13] Yahoo sucks anyway. [01:14] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [01:15] MCMM (n=motorcit@adsl-69-209-129-145.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] Well, it sucking or not doesn't really matter if you have clients who use pidgin and the yahoo protocol [01:17] antiwire: have you tried Gyachi ? [01:18] init[1]: Does Gyachi support opportunistic encryption for IM protocols? [01:18] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:19] no idea! but im sure you can get pretty much features of windows build of yahoo client :) [01:20] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [01:20] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:20] MCMM (n=motorcit@adsl-69-209-129-145.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:24] o/ firebird619 [01:24] brb [01:24] hey init[1] [01:24] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Client Quit [01:25] Its quite funny when people say brb , sounds like burp :P [01:25] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [01:27] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:27] brp [01:30] Action: edman007 slaps twolf [01:31] alright, now to make a graphical simulation thingy that will look cool... [01:31] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [01:32] edman007: http://chopp.homelinux.com:8080/pub/bitch_slapped.gif [01:32] rofl [01:32] does not look bitchy enough [01:33] but it does look ooooolllllldddd [01:33] true that [01:33] so make me a new one [01:34] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Client Quit [01:34] now, anyone good with sdl? i want to open a window and just start updating pixles... [01:34] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:34] edman007: sdl docs has some examples [01:35] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:35] even the put and get pixel [01:35] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:35] yea, i'm looking...its big.. [01:35] bbl :) [01:35] nevar! [01:35] read it quite digestible [01:36] lol, i just don't want to spend a lot of time on the sdl part [01:42] Nick change: thetrooper -> F41L [01:42] _guitarman_1 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:43] _guitarman_1 (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left ##slackware. [01:44] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:44] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-183-181.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:46] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:46] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-183-181.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [01:48] gosh it's dead in here. :P [01:49] firebird619: you have that link handy where you got those flux themes? [01:49] tenr.de [01:49] ah cool thanks [01:49] He has them all in one tarball to download. [01:49] can't choose? [01:49] you can download individual ones as well. [01:50] There's a ton of them. [01:50] you put them into ~/.fluxbox/styles [01:50] box-look.org has some nice ones too [01:50] i'm actually really diggin this polycarbonate theme [01:50] yeah, they have some good ones. [01:50] Hey Rat409. :) [01:51] hey [01:51] in flux? where'd you get that one at? [01:51] I use the MyDefcon3 style. [01:52] from tenr [01:52] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [01:52] firebird619: http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2 [01:52] my god, Kibo must be in his 40s by now [01:53] It's after midnight here, so...Happy Fathers Day to all the fathers in here. [01:53] antler: ok. I'll check it out. [01:53] firebird619, i am your father [01:53] :D [01:53] hahah [01:53] now give me beer [01:53] dang, all this time and I didn't know it. [01:53] yup, its true [01:54] Where the heck have you been? [01:54] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:56] darth edman? [01:57] maybe... [01:57] you can't be darth vader *and* 007. No fair. [01:57] Urchlay: help him take that mask off so that he can see firebird619 with his own eyes [01:57] he hasn't had that mask off in 20 years, don't want to think about the stench... [01:58] Imagine it before it was fitted [01:59] second beer [01:59] Action: firebird619 pries edvader007's mask off with a crowbar. [01:59] lol [01:59] y0 hitest [01:59] Action: Urchlay holds his nose [01:59] hi firebird619:) how's it going? [01:59] Action: firebird619 sticks a close pin on his nose and sprays edvader007 with febreeze. [02:00] hitest: doing great, thanks. [02:00] ha [02:00] yourself? [02:00] firebird619, muhahah, i just have another mask under it! [02:00] heh, if being without the mask won't kill him, the febreze will [02:00] firebird619, i have over 9000 masks on [02:00] firebird619: I am well, ty:) one more week of work then I'm off for the summer [02:00] edman007: Oh, that's a mask, I thought it was your face, if it was your face, I was gonna say DANG, you are ugly. :P [02:00] his actual skull is smaller than a golf ball [02:01] Urchlay: I was thinking ping pong ball [02:01] due to an unfortunate encounter with a tribe of pygmies... [02:01] hitest: nice [02:01] firebird619, well i am your father, you should expect it [02:01] lol [02:01] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:01] lol Urchlay [02:02] my brain is stored in a hypercube [02:02] we scared dartmouth away... [02:02] edman007: when you were grade school, did the other kids call you Tesseract-head? [02:02] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:03] Urchlay: they were to busy running the other way screaming. [02:04] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-57-97.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:04] Urchlay, the memories... [02:04] you only passed biology by waving your hand and going "you *will* give me an A" [02:05] Nick change: F41L -> austrian_economi [02:05] well i did get an A...you didn't do that [02:05] Nick change: austrian_economi -> anarcocapilatist [02:05] imagine what it must have been like downtown on coruscant, after a war... [02:06] all these guys sitting on the side of the street, Jedi veterans [02:06] "You *will* give me a dollar" [02:06] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [02:06] lol [02:06] your jedi mind tricks won't work on me, boy [02:06] signs that say "Will turn to the Dark Side for food" [02:07] says jaba [02:07] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:07] he's smart enough to resist jedi mind tricks, but dumb enough to chain his captive enemy to his own neck, so he gets strangled? [02:08] (plot hole big enough to fly an X-Wing through?) [02:08] true [02:09] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.15.197) joined ##slackware. [02:10] bijit (i=1000@190.241.15.48) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:10] he couldn't resist having the hot princess close to him [02:11] Action: firebird619 removes mask 9,999 from edvader007 [02:11] lol [02:11] crap, there's a padalock. [02:11] Action: firebird619 gets boltcutters, a torch, and a saw. [02:11] chain saw [02:11] oh yeay [02:11] yeah [02:12] Oh man, is that really your face? [02:12] no wonder there's so many masks [02:13] no way am I related to you in any way, shape, or form. [02:13] bbl [02:14] actually how does a giant slug even find human women attractive? [02:14] (assuming you count Carrie Fisher as a human...) [02:14] ha [02:15] quit [02:15] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:15] bijit (i=1000@190.241.15.48) joined ##slackware. [02:17] night guys have fun [02:17] Action: edman007 eats his young [02:18] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:18] Urchlay: very funny:) I think Jaba thought of the Princess as his personal property, he may have been mildly sexually attracted to her (my theory). [02:19] I don't see how he could find her attractive, it'd be like me or you getting hot for a spider or something [02:19] jabba's probably not even a mammal [02:19] true [02:20] however, a lot of his minions and such were human or humanoid, he was probably just trying to impress them [02:20] good point [02:21] the chain was still dumb [02:21] chain her to the wall instead [02:21] or hold the end of the chain like it's a leash [02:21] so in all probability the princess in Jaba's mind was only a possession. yeah the chain was freaking stupid. [02:22] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [02:23] he might have been planning to eat her for dinner later [02:24] or not, different biology, maybe she doesn't smell like food, or would be poisonous [02:26] whoa, that was weird. "ls file", then trying to type "vi !$" to edit the same file, but got "vi !#$" instead... the shell actually executed "vi vi" [02:26] !# [02:27] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Lost Terminal" [02:27] appears to expand to the entire current command line [02:27] the princess was pretty hot [02:27] yeah [02:27] Urchlay: that never occurred to me, that he may have considered her to be food. [02:27] insert obligatory rude comment [02:27] she wasn't hot in 'return of the jedi', though [02:27] Nick change: anarcocapilatist -> egregor [02:28] and to this day, young girls who want to win the DragonCon costume contest, still wear chainmail bikinis. I can almost forgive Lucas for the crappy prequels, just because of that [02:29] antler: I think she was burned out from too much heroin by the time Jedi was made [02:29] Urchlay: are you serious? [02:29] druggie? [02:29] what? about the costume contest, or about the drugs? [02:29] drugs [02:29] drugs [02:29] AFAIK, Carrie Fisher had serious drug problems [02:30] i liked that her hair also served as ear muffs [02:30] it was strangely attractive [02:30] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:31] heh, the spaceballs scene where the chick has headphones that look like that is pretty funny [02:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:31] was that with john candy? [02:31] yeah [02:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:32] ugh, go look up carrie fisher on wikipedia, they have a recent photo, you won't even recognize her [02:33] oh, she looks like that small pet jabba had, the one that laughed [02:34] haha, yeah [02:34] Action: antler wonders whether 'knowing' is worth staying up late for [02:34] knowing wha? [02:34] nicolas cage flick [02:35] whoa: http://www.flickr.com/groups/65038850@N00/pool/with/246151131/ "The Slave Leia Appreciation Society" [02:36] hahaha http://www.flickr.com/photos/inlovingmemory87/237435195/in/pool-65038850@N00 [02:36] the asian princess leia twins: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djwudi/129782488/in/pool-65038850@N00 [02:37] oooo nice [02:37] damn. Ehhh, that's page 19 of 21 [02:38] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-9.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:38] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@155.86.215.200.res.nat.netvision.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [02:38] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-5-143.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:38] whoa, lesbileia: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wfdt/236112602/in/pool-65038850@N00 [02:39] (ops: this is not porn, they all have their clothes on!) [02:39] damn man i though of a jenna jamieson type lesbian and you show me that?! [02:39] OMG-------just went to wikipedia. wtf?! Carrie Fisher looks weird. [02:40] yeah, she looks nothing like she did in the star wars movies [02:40] agreed [02:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hamill [02:44] he looks different as well [02:44] i guess aging comes as no surprise [02:44] yeah [02:48] here's one that's aging well, though: http://www.onceuponatimeinamerica.net/images/youngdeb.jpg and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jennifer_Connelly_2005.2.jpg [02:49] she's too hot [02:50] mark hamill also had a motorcycle accident that messed up his face, IIRC [02:52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Dee_Williams [02:52] now that looks Nothing like lando [02:53] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:53] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [02:54] you're right [02:54] however, he does still look like he ought to be drinking a 40 of schlitz malt liquor bull :) [02:55] oh, sorry, Colt 45 [02:55] hey what's a good tool for controlling sound in flux? [02:56] alsamixer? [02:56] heh that's what i've been using. hoping for an applet [02:57] antler: just use kde's or xfce's [02:57] which is xfce's? [02:57] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:57] It's just called Mixer in the menu's. not sure of the command that loads it [02:57] haha: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a863be2b6f/vote-for-lando-calrissian-w-billy-dee-williams-from-fod-team [02:58] caixabox_ (n=petrocel@1898724248.ssa.megazon.com.br) joined ##slackware. [02:59] Ugh, this isn't good. I went to start claws mail and it's bringing up the setup wizard. :( Thank gosh my mail's backed up in case it's all messed up. [02:59] hahah re: vote [02:59] firebird619: now you see that my laziness paid off. kontact. [02:59] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-215-49.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:00] apparently claws-mail doesn't like being killall'd :( [03:00] antler: indeed. [03:00] who'd a thought that laziness would pay off. [03:01] err, what the heck, I had to go through the wizard yet all the mail and everything is still there. :P [03:01] Oh great, now it brought in a crapload of duplicates. :( [03:04] firebird619: xfce4-mixer [03:04] antler: nice [03:04] antler: so you're still on flux? I'm surprised. :P [03:04] firebird619: actually, i'm really liking it [03:05] fluxbox is awesome [03:06] antler: WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, say that again? :P [03:06] hahah [03:06] me: I'm using KDE 3.5.10 in Slackware 12.2, and KDE 4.2.2 in FreeBSD [03:07] I'm on kde 4.2.4 atm. Just messin around. [03:08] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [03:10] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:13] whoa it got quiet. [03:14] everyone's still drooling over the "slave princess leia costume" image gallery :) [03:14] lol [03:15] that explains the "caution, wet floor" sign. :P [03:15] charming [03:15] :) [03:15] leia is hawt [03:15] Urchlay: ... wait, what did i miss?? [03:15] well [03:15] she was [03:16] agentc0re: photos from dragoncon (among others): http://www.flickr.com/groups/65038850@N00/pool/with/246151131/ [03:17] I was probably at dragoncon when some of those were made, but, eh, if any of those girls saw me they probly went "who's the creepy hairy guy old enough to be my dad?" [03:18] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-165-97.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:19] can you pass as chewie? [03:19] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [03:19] Urchlay: Heh, that sounds like something my 15 year old daughter would say:) [03:19] about me [03:21] omfg the little girl in 'knowing' looks like one of the twins butchered in the overlook hotel [03:21] way too creepy for tonight [03:23] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.15.197) left irc: ":wq" [03:24] antler: I could pass as a wookiee who shaved his body hair and has started letting it grow back recently, maybe [03:25] eichi (n=eichi@p5B200A21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:26] hm. Wonder if chewbacca eats nachos. Cause I'm about to... [03:26] certainly [03:28] firebird6191 (n=firebird@173-18-63-150.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [03:29] so what possible use can the !# thing be in bash? [03:29] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [03:29] Nick change: firebird6191 -> firebird619 [03:29] it expands to the entire command line it's on, up to the place where it occurs [03:30] echo delta !# foxtrot [03:30] echo delta echo delta foxtrot [03:30] what use can that be? [03:31] anyway. Time for nachos... [03:32] nachos and cheese? [03:34] night all:) [03:34] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:35] Hmm, will antler continue to use fluxbox? [03:35] The Purple 8 Ball says: Not likely [03:36] Will Urchlay eat an entire bag of nacos? [03:36] The Purple 8 Ball says: Not likely [03:40] egregor (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [03:46] hi people [03:52] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426279.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:53] Action: frullet wishes he bought an nvidia card [03:53] zeroXzero (n=zxz@59.93.0.245) joined ##slackware. [03:54] what do you have frullet? [03:54] radeon 4850 [03:54] having problems with it? [03:55] Should frullet have gotten an nvidia card? [03:55] The Purple 8 Ball says: It's possible [03:55] i cant stay -current unless i sacrifice my addiction, because the fglrx drivers dont play nice with the latest kernel [03:56] what's your addiction? [03:56] WoW, shame on me [03:56] haha\ [03:56] Should frullet quit his wow addiction? [03:56] The Purple 8 Ball says: Not likely [03:56] I have tried numerous times, i last for about a year or so then i get the craving [03:56] There ya go, the 8 ball has spoken. :P [03:57] I've never played WoW [03:57] ln -s WoW heroin [03:57] firebird619: nor do you want to, it will take your soul [03:58] haha [03:59] Has WoW taken frullet's soul? 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[04:31] hi :) [04:32] hi [04:33] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/min0s) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:37] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:40] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:47] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:48] antiwire: Camarade_Tux \o/ [04:48] ! [04:49] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:49] \o/ [04:50] | [04:50] My friend handed me his girlfriend's digital camera today and asked me to get the pictures off of it and onto my laptop so we could all check them out. I had to grab and build gtkam right in front of them and they were trippin [04:50] it worked fine too, even better [04:51] cna you choose the "Helvetica" font in gtk+2 applications? [04:51] the font shows up in programs like xfontsel, but it's not in the list of fonts when i try to choose it in gtk+2 [04:51] antiwire: they should be having an impression that omg ! antiwire THE geek :P [04:51] yo init[1]|znc [04:52] init[1]|znc: well yeah that's a given. they are my closest friends so they already know that lol [04:52] antiwire, yeah, hopefully, what people often don't understand is they also have to install something on windows, the only thing is that it's bundled on the CD ;) [04:53] They know I use Slackware but they don't really know what that means other than it's not OSX or Windows, but they are really receptive about it and understand why I do it. [04:53] I just don't often build the things I need right in front of people for the first time. [04:53] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [04:53] It was good PR ;) [04:54] They saw Slackware, slackbuilds.org and gtkam build in front of them and then run and get their images, it was rad. [04:56] antiwire: lucky that gtkam didn;t have any heavy dependency .. or else they would have to wait till their grandchildren :P [04:56] Yeah, I was stoked about that too [04:57] It was a pretty much a perfect example and only needed one dep [04:57] He's the type of guy who totally understands why people use linux based systems but doesn't have the time to really dedicate to doing it himself. [04:59] he did actually give me permission to install Debian on his PS3 though [04:59] omg! seriously [04:59] haha yeah [04:59] he is brave .. [05:00] ^^ [05:00] Camarade_Tux: joking ;P [05:02] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[05:18] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:18] rg3: btw, I been able to assist 3 different people with that kde4 .local and .kde thing [05:19] It's a strange phenomenon, when someone learns something new and then shortly after uses that new information [05:20] i don't even use kde4 =) [05:20] haha [05:21] i should switch to kde4, but i'll do so when i get a new computer later this year or next year [05:24] hey ppl , what ICQ are you using with your slackware ? [05:24] ... and switch to slackware64 too [05:24] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [05:24] help40-alexiev: mibbit [05:24] i'm using gaim at this moment, which is shipped with slackware [05:25] help40-alexiev: I use pidgin for all of my IM and IRC needs except when I need to use Skype. [05:25] I use LICQ at the moment, but there is problem with sending files ..... or I have problem ... [05:26] help40-alexiev: Could be a firewalling issue [05:26] yes could be [05:27] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [05:30] exaltis (n=exaltis@athedsl-09472.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:32] exaltis (n=exaltis@athedsl-09472.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [05:33] exaltis (n=exaltis@athedsl-09472.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:45] anyone built mono recently? I'm on a 1.83ghz core duo with 2GB of ram, any rough estimates of build times? [05:46] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-215-49.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:50] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [05:54] 3.1 SBU :) [05:54] about half an hour I guess (well, at most) [05:54] he, xsnow's not running ! [05:55] actually it's maybe 4.1 SBU (Standard Build Unit, LFS's way to time a build, that's the time it takes to build binutils) [05:56] doh! 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[06:20] and has anybody tried to install eclipse IDE for java develpers with the slackbuild installer ? [06:21] for eclipse SDK ? [06:22] wrong question :) [06:22] sloin (n=d@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:22] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [06:24] Plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [06:28] iclebyte_ (n=jamie@87.244.83.253) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:31] sometimes I don't get everything that happens on this channel [06:32] o rly? [06:32] yarly! [06:33] I get the technical stuff but I don't get the people [06:33] (those who come infrequently or just once) [06:35] I often do it, i like to see the topic on other channels [06:36] seeing as this one tends to be dead at the times im on [06:36] what I understand the least is people who leave right after they've asked a question [06:36] frullet, yeah, pretty dead ;) [06:36] maybe we could play tetris in the channel :) [06:37] heret|c (n=heretic@c-68-32-70-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:38] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:38] Camarade_Tux: or world of warcraft :) [06:38] in ascii-art, yeah, that'd work too :) [06:39] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [06:39] yeah, I intend to use irc as a screen, floooood ! :) [06:39] slackboy would get cranky [06:40] well, we'd have to keep the refresh rate above 10spf (second per frame) :D [06:41] it might just work [06:42] let's begin [06:42] | | | [06:43] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [06:43] | -- | [06:43] considering how long it is to write that, it might actually just work >< [06:43] s/is/takes/ [06:43] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [06:43] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Client Quit [06:46] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [06:46] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:47] Camarade_Tux: get to work on ascii WoW [06:48] :) [06:48] I think there's already an ascii X server, that should do it ;) [06:49] ALVAN (n=neko@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. 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[07:08] i would, just think climb up a giant rock to watch the sunrise with a thermos full of hot coffee, dont forget your sunglasses [07:09] frullet, do you pay for the journey ? =) [07:09] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:11] I'm looking at a map and I reckon that Wellington in NZ is closer than Uluru [07:15] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:16] i seen a documentary about new zealand on the television, you people have a nice country, there is a company down there that finds HUGE old trees buried in the ground for over 10,000 years and digs them up and makes lumber out of them, the wood from it is beautiful [07:16] Camarade_Tux: unfortunetly yes :( [07:17] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.78.55) joined ##slackware. [07:17] I do live in Australia, some people don't realize we are the 6th largest country be area and 3 least populated [07:17] frullet, really ? do you pay *me* the ticket ? [07:17] =P [07:21] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.92.160) joined ##slackware. [07:23] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:24] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:30] ragsagar (n=ragsagar@117.204.98.18) joined ##slackware. [07:35] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:41] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.92.160) left irc: "Leaving" [07:42] anyone knows if there's a wepage that can tell me a country that I specify is the nearest in terms of distance or latency [07:43] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [07:44] tooly (n=theo@e178148098.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. 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[07:51] bijit (i=1000@190.241.15.48) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:51] \o/ [07:53] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [07:53] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) got lost in the net-split. [07:56] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) joined ##slackware. [07:57] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:58] v4nelle (n=van@adsl3-216.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:00] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: SendQ exceeded [08:02] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:02] ALVAN (n=neko@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: Connection timed out [08:02] anyone use alpine for email, i been using it only a short time and managed to send email with it but have seen no reference anywhere in the help section or the main menu for getting mail [08:03] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:04] i wish there was a good smtp/pop3 email client for Linux console (no xorg installed on this old laptop) [08:06] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:08] i used pine for years.. fetchmail for incoming [08:08] now just use gmail [08:09] NukeDukem: yeah, i was about to say, for pop3, you need another program to go grab the mail [08:09] ah, so alpine/pine only creates and sends mail [08:09] pine can do IMAP directly though [08:09] fetchmail delivers incoming mail into yr mailbox [08:09] getmail is configurable, for incoming [08:10] fetchmail? does that require python too? [08:10] sadly, as i have f***** up my slack, now using deban until 13 is out [08:10] and debian is very restrictive [08:10] NukeDukem: i don't think fecthmail requires python, no [08:10] I have used pine and now alpine for year with direct IMAP access [08:10] and can't be bothered unrestricting it [08:11] mutt is more powerfull, but not as easily configured [08:12] debian has some annoyances too, that /etc/alternatives and the way the kernel is built, look at the harddrive light it will blink every second (it does with me with a stock debian kernel so i always rebuild with a custom .config) [08:12] ArTourter: do you use multiple/nested folders with IMAP/alpine ? [08:12] python is part of the standard install? [08:12] SteppenwolfII: yeah it is [08:12] well I started with pine a long time ago and never had a reason to look at other console base email client [08:12] NukeDukem, yes I do [08:12] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [08:12] quite a lot of good stuffneeds it [08:12] if it ain't broke, dont fix it [08:13] yeah, i looked in to mutt, not easily configured, i only need smtp/pop3 with my ISPs email server [08:13] but you can play with it :) [08:13] (if it ain't brokeа [08:13] s/а/)/ [08:13] famous last words [08:13] yes, python is part of a standard slack install, but i did not install it, i will if i have to [08:13] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A73BAC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] gmail is good [08:14] y0 [08:14] at culling spam [08:14] sent myself a message from another machine [08:14] the privacy aspect of gmail started to scare me a bit... [08:14] and gmail sent it to trash [08:15] because, incorrectly, I sent it as root [08:15] good! [08:15] hahahahaa [08:15] my ISP has an awesome spam filter, nothing gets through [08:15] anyone who send anything through email, anyway, must expect it to be read on way [08:16] thats what crypt is for [08:16] not even legitimate email!!!! I like your ISP NukeDukem , would save me a lot of hassle :-P [08:17] yeah, isp based email is cool, but it has its limitations, i cant get email unless i am at home, so if i went to a public wifi or any other ineternet connection outside my subscription i can not get access [08:18] even on the web mail reader? [08:18] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-183-173.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:19] i think i will look at fetchmail since it does not require python [08:19] well i can access my email from home with either an email client or web browser, as long as i am at home [08:19] I use to have the same problems with ISP email as they only advertise POP until I realised that they also had an IMAP server which they didn't advertise. [08:20] fetch is great, but if mail volume is low, don't allow it to delete mail on server. [08:20] anyway, bye, dinner time in Yurop [08:20] SteppenwolfII (n=greymaus@86-46-203-181-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:21] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:24] BringingSexyBack (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [08:24] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:26] ok fetchmail is installed, now to make a ~/.fetchmailrc, hopefully it will be an easy task [08:29] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [08:31] nheco (n=nheco@200-102-93-118.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:33] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:33] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:34] schpenke_ (n=schpenke@cpe-66-25-50-212.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [08:34] dios_mio (i=test@88.242.170.181) joined ##slackware. [08:34] $1.9 Million fine for downloading mp3 --> http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE55K07E20090621 [08:34] schpenke (n=schpenke@cpe-66-25-50-212.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:34] heh, fetchsetup was a snap! love it! [08:36] i seen that, that riaa fine has been all over the tubes, it is crazy! that judge should be disbared for allowing such a huge fine, the most someone should be fined for copywrite infringement for mp3 files is something reasonable like 10 or 20 bucks a song, 1.9 M for 24 songs is an outrage [08:37] exactly my feelings [08:37] 1 dollar a song in my judgment would be justice [08:38] but that's great, I'd pay like 10G, I'm sure it'll help the economy recover :) [08:38] heh,, and me some 50 gb :P [08:39] BringingSexyBack (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [08:39] look, I'm sure everybody here (including slackboy) has *one* "pirated" song, that's like 25M in fine :) [08:39] heh [08:40] 150GB :) [08:41] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-215-49.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:42] giuppy (n=giuppy@host225-173-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [08:42] does rsync has an option for creating parents directories in the destination? [08:42] I dont see anything in the manual [08:46] I think that I got it now [08:47] http://www.sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2009-06-21.gif [08:47] who else uses fetchmail? where does it store incoming mail? /var/spool/mail/$USER_NAME ? [08:48] caixabox_ (n=petrocel@1898724248.ssa.megazon.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:48] Camarade_Tux, y0 check todays sinfest [08:56] slackytude, hahaha :P [08:56] how is it going ? [08:56] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.14.199) joined ##slackware. [08:58] dusty (n=dusty@78.86.194.225) joined ##slackware. [08:58] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.79.193) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:59] ragsagar (n=ragsagar@117.204.98.18) left irc: "q!" [09:00] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:00] noooooooo, I used two forks for today's lunch ! that means twice as many forks to wash ='( [09:02] Camarade_Tux, Im still alive [09:03] Camarade_Tux, take them with you when you shower next [09:03] that's a good point, managed to get macavity's girlfriend ? [09:04] slackytude, you want me to do what with two forks in a shower ? :O [09:04] pervert -_- [09:04] eh, clean them. saves water too. of course, it means waiting a month till you get clean forks [09:04] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:04] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [09:05] y0 TwinReverb [09:05] giuppy (n=giuppy@host192-164-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:05] slackytude, hi [09:05] slackytude, yeah, and I don't have enough forks =/ [09:05] yo TwinReverb [09:05] Lexus1 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) left ##slackware. [09:06] Camarade_Tux, hi 8-) [09:06] a gentleman doesnt take about it, Camarade_Tux [09:06] talk [09:07] slackytude, a gentleman ? where ? :D [09:07] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:10] lol! Kramer on Seinfeld washed dishes in the shower, also prepaired food in the shower on an episode [09:11] washed vegetables for a salad while taking a shower [09:12] NukeDukem: that's better than washing the dishes while you shower ;) [09:12] why? it saves water ;p [09:15] Nick change: help40-alexiev -> help40-alexiev-a [09:16] Nick change: help40-alexiev-a -> help40-alexievAW [09:19] Hmm... I shave and brush my teeth in the shower, but I have never experienced cutlery or vegetables there. [09:20] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:24] ha ha, that was one of my favorite episodes [09:26] all those people freaked out once kramer told them he prepaired the salad while taking a shower [09:30] frb (n=frb@p5B0EC672.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:33] I know some guy who washed dishes in the shower as well [09:33] kramer played a janitor on a Wierd Al movie named UHF [09:35] Anakin (i=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [09:35] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [09:35] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [09:36] my isp does not like fetchmail, i guess it is going to be python & getmail afterall [09:37] doesnt like fetchmail? [09:37] its just another pop client [09:42] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:42] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:42] v4nelle (n=van@adsl3-216.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:49] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426279.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [09:54] well i got it fixed, i have alpine working to send mail, and getmail to retrieve mail that can be read with alpine, i wonder why alpine does not have a built in retrieve system, (no pop3 - only smtp) [09:57] http://www.washington.edu/alpine/faq/whatis.html#2.7 <- POP3 supported? [09:58] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:58] 'retrieve' and 'smtp' in the same sentence ? [10:00] hmm, in the config and main menu i seen no clue for setting up pop3, i have never tried IMAP for my email, i guess it wont hurt to try [10:00] http://www.washington.edu/alpine/faq/config.html#6.3 <- How to connect to a POP3 server in alpine [10:03] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:04] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:05] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:08] mpop is a small, fast, and portable POP3 client. Its features include header-based email filtering (filter junk mail before downloading it), delivery to mbox files, maildir folders, or a mail delivery agent, a very fast POP3 implementation, many authentication methods, and good support for TLS/SSL. [10:09] http://freshmeat.net/search?q=mpop&submit=Search [10:10] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:14] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-32-177.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net) left ##slackware. [10:15] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.12.109) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:17] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) left irc: "adios amigos" [10:19] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:20] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [10:20] heret|c (n=heretic@c-68-32-70-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:22] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [10:22] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:23] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.14.199) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:23] how is /usr/lib/ connected with /usr/lib64/ ? [10:24] It is not [10:24] 64-bit libraries go to /usr/lib64. they aren't connected [10:24] monstro (i=1000@201-92-42-129.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:24] Hi allm [10:24] why php does combine those two then? [10:24] Where I find HTB for slackware 12.2 ? [10:24] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [10:24] ops [10:25] or better to say, php is expecting to find files in /usr/lib64/ ... [10:25] and if it's not ./configure, then it's # make; [10:25] monstro: sorry, what is HTB ? [10:26] stybla: you are on 64-bit slackware? [10:26] thrice`: we are in #slackware, so... :) [10:26] stybla: so? slackware64 is also Slackware [10:26] thrice`, is software to Traffic shaping [10:26] alienBOB: so, *yes* [10:26] The question rephrased - are you on 32bit Slackware [10:27] no [10:27] :) [10:27] How is make traffic shaping in slackware ? [10:27] So, that is why php wants files to be in /usr/lib64 [10:28] alienBOB: oh, so is it like something like a "new" convention, or something? [10:28] like<>something [10:28] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:29] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:29] alienBOB: it just doesn't make too much sense. files are in /usr/lib/ and i "don't care" what php wants :\ also, it's the only one thing that actually have problem. [10:29] Install the 64-bit libs that PHP wants. [10:29] stybla: anything compiled for 64-bit arch belongs in /usr/lib64. not doing so will cause issues down the road [10:29] Problem solved? [10:30] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:30] du -sh /usr/lib{64,} and see the difference :) [10:31] thrice`: it's just a location of files, isn't it? [10:31] :\ [10:31] anyone can help-me ? how to make traffic shaping in slackware ? [10:32] stybla: you are making absolutely no sense [10:33] alienBOB: hm [10:34] it's not really a user-choice. anything 64-bit belongs in /usr/lib64 . /usr/lib/ is reserved for 32-bit, noarch, firmware, no-arch, and a couple other items [10:34] oops, minus a "no-arch" :) [10:34] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:35] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [10:35] monstro: a Slackware user's tutorial on traffic shaping: http://nielshorn.blogspot.com/2008/09/traffic-shaping-with-cbq.html [10:35] What would be an example of a noarch library? [10:35] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:36] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) joined ##slackware. [10:36] mm, like firmware items, those go to /lib instead of /lib64 [10:36] DarkGable (n=ray@c-76-114-161-73.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:36] thrice`: dunno what to say really, but- it's still the best reply so far. [10:36] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.79.193) joined ##slackware. [10:39] How to make my slackware start up with fewer programms ? [10:40] init scripts are handled from /etc/rc.d . you can chmod -x any you don't want to run. though, be very careful, and don't mess with it if you're unsure [10:41] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [10:41] adeodatus: define "fewer programs" [10:42] thrice`: wouldn't you have some link about this? [10:42] alienBOB, okay. thanks [10:42] stybla: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#LIB64 [10:43] hey is there any way to add files to tar.gz or tar.bz2 , as we do with -r (append) with tar [10:43] stybla, (regarding your "we are in #slackware, so... :)" comment) if you hang around you might be surprised to see how many non-Slackware people come in here for random help. [10:44] thrice`: thanks. [10:44] thetrooper (n=thetroop@unaffiliated/lombard) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.2.6"). [10:45] monstro (i=1000@201-92-42-129.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [10:45] rob0: i wouldn't, but it's theirs problem. [10:45] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [10:45] ...and i have to buy 64bit for myself :( [10:46] just pointing out why you'd be asked that in here. [10:46] what's the files name where i can edit mountpoints [10:47] rob0: i know, but it really doesn't change my world :s [10:47] lw0x15: depends, at boot time? /etc/fstab is probably what you're thinking of [10:47] I don't want to run telnet when slackware starts. [10:47] rob0: and don't take it wrong way, or whatever. i have problem to accept so called "reality" :) [10:47] huh? [10:47] thrice`: any idea ? [10:48] http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2459/3534790964_5d8bed17c0_b.jpg Heh, this is great. [10:48] rob0: reasons are known, i understand, but it's still odd for me no matter what ;) [10:48] adeodatus, in.telnetd(8) is disabled by default. Don't enable things you don't want. in.* daemons run from from inetd, so see your /etc/inetd.conf file. [10:48] agentc0re, I dont get it [10:49] oh, thats what she said [10:49] [ in bed ] [10:49] Action: agentc0re see's the light turn on for slackytude [10:49] I get it now, hard to read the handwriting [10:50] init[1]|znc: i don't know of any way; I'd guess you'd have to simply create a new tarball [10:50] well, epic detention [10:50] hahaha ! [10:51] for some weird reason the numeric keyboard doesnt want to work under X11 [10:51] gunzip foobar.tar.gz; tar cvfz newfoo.tar.gz additionalcrap.txt foobar.tar; gzip foobar.tar ? [10:51] Action: Camarade_Tux goes back to fixing that fucking shutter [10:51] or maybe "tar cvfz newfile.tar.gz additional_crap.txt foobar.tar.gz" ? [10:51] my fingers are too big to get inside :) [10:51] thats what she said [10:52] yeah, three fingers :) [10:52] I managed that on one side but I really can't go any further on the other side [10:52] thrice`: yea that is another way .. i was thinking about some tar switches .. that can do the stuff :) [10:53] init[1]|znc, that may be impossible [10:54] Camarade_Tux: oO,yea it makes sense ... but when it comes to larger files it becomes quite messy .. :) [10:54] thrice`: just out of curiousity, not like arguing or anything; those things are hard-coded somewhere, or - something? you've said it's not users choice, so things must depend on it somehow. i'm just trying to understand it/know why. i have things "it's just like that, accept it". if you don't know, it's okay. i'm just curious. [10:54] thrice`: and yes, it makes sense. i didn't realize though (before). [10:55] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:55] init[1]|znc, gzip is meant to compress only one file which means it shouldn't have to support that kind of operation (which is basically appending data to your file) [10:55] stybla, during gcc compilation afaik [10:56] Camarade_Tux: yes got it .. once compressed its difficult .. [10:56] (ie they are set during gcc compilation) [10:56] stybla: not hardcoded, but it should be consistant. some projects, when you run configure, will recognize libraries from /usr/lib64, so it's nice to be consistant. placing some items in /usr/lib/ and others in /usr/lib64 will be messy to maintain, and might confuse some applications down the road [10:56] Nick change: help40-alexievAW -> help40-alexiev [10:56] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) left irc: Connection timed out [10:56] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [10:56] Action: init[1]|znc feels those things stybla asked about are mentioned in LSB [10:57] mernil (n=mernil@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [10:57] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*mernil*@*.priv.bahnhof.se' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:57] slackytude, I can move it more freely now, it's still a bit harder at the end but it moves much smoother :) [10:57] mernil kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Too cocky for our sensitive minds [10:58] O_o [10:58] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) joined ##slackware. [10:58] stuck again ='( [10:58] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [10:59] mernil was being a bad boy last friday night in here, pasting in evil (rm) commands in to the channel [10:59] oh noes! [11:00] some were those fancy 10 dollar commands with lots of slashes and other symbols [11:00] thrice`: i see, so it's somewhat like publicly-wide accepted standard which is backed up by some configs (?) to "enforce" it, so people (like me) will get finger slap before making bigger mess. ok. [11:00] thrice`: thanks for clarification. [11:00] Action: stybla has some recompilations to do... :s [11:00] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426279.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:01] never buy sliding shutters, they really suck, they're meant to fail, they're as reliable as a banana [11:01] Camarade_Tux: hallo! [11:01] hey stybla :) [11:02] Ive found bananas to be pretty reliable indeed [11:02] stybla: yep. it's "correct," but some distros don't follow it. if distros ONLY do 64-bit (and no compatability for 32-bit libraries), sometimes they will go directly to /usr/lib/ . slackware follows that FHS standard properly, so /usr/lib64 is best [11:02] Action: Camarade_Tux gets tired of that m0t4fUc|<|nG shutter [11:02] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-24-32-2-231.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [11:02] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.21.192) joined ##slackware. [11:02] i like either venetian blinds or those bamboo rollup shades [11:03] you like venetian blind bananas ? hmmmm........ [11:03] thrice`: saying that, you've made me realize i will have to read something more about compilation :( [11:03] oh, >< [11:04] Action: stybla cries [11:04] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:04] stybla: for configure, the only thing you'll need to add is --libdir=/usr/lib64 :) [11:05] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware64-current/source/xap/pidgin/pidgin.SlackBuild is an example on how slackware does it. slackbuilds.org will probably do similar when 13.0 comes out, so it'll JustWork [11:05] thrice`: ok, i will ask (no matter how stupid it is), but - is there some way that app would get compiled (without specifying so) as 32bit, instead of 64bit on 64bit system? i guess not. [11:05] the problem with sliding shutters is there's a lot of constraints on only a few parts and these parts will easily break (if they're put on the ground, that's ok) [11:06] stybla, mostly, gcc will tell them [11:06] stybla: nope :) unless you force it to be 32-bit, everything will be 64-bit (like it should be :> ) [11:06] thrice`: i mean, is there some reason why app couldn't be compiled for 64bit thus making it 32bit thus placing 32bit libs into /usr/lib64/ (and yes, i obviously know *shit*) [11:07] good. [11:07] stybla: nope, if you're on a 64-bit system, and compiling yourself, it will be 64-bit, unless you install your own 32-bit toolchain, and explicitly compile it to be 32-bit [11:07] it does sound a little complicated, but it really works well, and is actually pretty easy :) [11:08] thrice`: i just wanted to be sure, thanks (and Camarade_Tux). [11:08] sure :) [11:09] and if you want to make something 32bit, you can pass -m32 to gcc [11:10] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) left irc: "adios amigos" [11:11] groo (n=groo@201-92-215-115.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:12] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:14] Camarade_Tux: yeah, that's probably one of couple things i know :) [11:14] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.25.143) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:16] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:18] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:18] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:27] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:30] DarkGable (n=ray@c-76-114-161-73.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "BitchX: take the red pill" [11:30] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:31] anyone using grub2 to boot? [11:32] anyone on slackware, or anyone in the world? the answer might be the same ;) [11:32] hiptobecubic, fedora users [11:33] no one likes grub? [11:33] fedora is still at 0.98 [11:33] 0.97* [11:33] thrice`, I thougt the new fedora release used grub2 [11:33] maybe it was ubuntu [11:34] ubuntu is going to on their next, I think [11:34] true, might have been the alpha of next release [11:40] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-172-11.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:44] nbuonanno (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:44] nheco (n=nheco@200-102-93-118.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [11:45] hey, does anyone here know where i can find a good site/mirror for sqlite? [11:45] (slackpkg returns a not-found error for all the mirrors i've tried) [11:45] for 12.2 ? [11:46] -current [11:46] wait [11:46] ;) [11:46] shit. that might be my problem. is it in 12.2, and not -current? [11:47] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-current/slackware/ap/sqlite-3.6.14.2-i486-1.txz [11:47] of course it's in -current ;) [11:47] Action: nbuonanno shrugs. [11:47] standb [11:47] y [11:47] k [11:48] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:48] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [11:48] greetings [11:48] The-Croupier: hi. [11:49] stybla: how are you doing? [11:49] can one play wow in slackware? [11:49] been trying in google...and found cedega..how on earth cn one install [11:49] it's not working for some strange reason [11:49] the page is really not nice [11:49] The-Croupier, yes [11:49] The-Croupier, works nice in wine [11:50] slackytude: i see [11:50] nbuonanno awesome error message :> [11:50] The-Croupier, be sure to tell WoW to use OpenGL [11:50] ill try wine then [11:50] The-Croupier: i'm having a lots of fun reading macroeconomics - i'm pretty sure you get the picture how i'm doing... [11:50] :P [11:50] nbuonanno: you're on .txz stuff already ? [11:50] stybla: yeah i see mate [11:50] slackytude: thanks... [11:50] The-Croupier: thanks for the asking though, and yourself? [11:50] The-Croupier, no sweat [11:50] i want to try my card ;) lol [11:51] wow worked better under wine than on MS with the same machines [11:51] hey can you tell your reviews about awesome ! [11:51] thrice`: yeah [11:51] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [11:51] stybla: im trying to play some games..never played any [11:51] The-Croupier: try Counter Strike [11:51] i'm going to try installing the 12.2 package i have saved, and see if an upgrade will work [11:52] cd /tmp [11:52] *HEADDESK* fail [11:52] The-Croupier: it should be fairly easy with wine. [11:53] init[1]|znc: used to play that when i was younger [11:53] ;) [11:53] stybla: yeah..it needs fontforge something..i dont have it in /var/log/packages/ ;) trying to find it in sbo [11:53] The-Croupier: oooh so you're trying to convey that im still young :P [11:53] The-Croupier, its on sbo [11:54] init[1]|znc: lol [11:54] thrice`: i managed to pull it from the direct link you gave me. not sure why my slackpkg mirrors hate me, i'll figure it out later [11:55] nbuonanno: slackpkg update [11:55] The-Croupier: well, "need". you can comment it out in slackpkg and i've never had it when installing from pkg. [11:55] The-Croupier: so, need is really in question. [11:55] nbuonanno: change mirror ;) [11:56] fortran-barbaria (n=ek@86.98.167.11) joined ##slackware. [11:56] anyone has a good advisory on unclogging inkjet printer catridges? [11:57] big hammer and buying laser printer instead? [11:57] dissociative i heard if you put them in the microwave for about a minute it helps unclog them.. [11:58] haha [11:58] but be sure they dont explode [11:58] don't do that. [11:58] yes [11:59] maybee if you plant it in the ground it will grow into a tree, just make sure to water it every day [12:00] Nick change: fortran-barbaria -> dna-polymerase [12:01] I will get a inkjet asad<< [12:01] lol [12:02] my machine just froze for some secons [12:02] *seconds [12:03] dissociative: baby wipes [12:03] or wet paper towel [12:03] You'll loose a lot of ink, but sometimes you can unclog them [12:03] Another thing to consider is, are the jets actually clogged? [12:04] v4nelle (n=van@adsl3-216.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:04] Or are they damaged? [12:04] Cuz if you're refilling them and youve let them start to run dry then they could be damaged [12:04] I was printing happily when I started to get prints with horizontal patterns [12:05] The head uses the ink as a lubricant for the jets [12:05] like those old matrix printers [12:10] dissociative: when cartridges could be refilled, I boiled water, let it cool a little, then placed the cartridges head down in a tiny bit of the water [12:11] dissociative: but nowadays, that will probably destroy them... [12:11] I bought a color laser printer and will never look back (it's even cheaper in the not-so-long run) [12:11] I think that should be better to use a something like a ballon full of warm water [12:11] baloon [12:11] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host23-235-dynamic.24-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:12] the hp 1020 is a very good low cost black and white laser printer.. its feed never jams or double feeds... [12:13] I have an HP 1518ni on my network, works with everything (Mac, Windows, Linux,...) [12:13] bolhoso (n=bolha@189-18-235-153.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:13] uh, my mdadm raid just took an absolute crap after ntpd ran. [12:13] hp makes good printers [12:14] inkjets are like rent-to-own plans, you lose big time [12:14] so lexmark makes the worst [12:14] lexmark printers are unpredictable, I've had good and bad [12:14] lexmarks kindof suck i havn't used one since the late 90's.. [12:14] but my experience was bad [12:14] lexmark is wierd [12:15] Anyone around running -current? [12:15] it's like they have models from completely different companies [12:15] Beta2K: yes [12:15] current rocks [12:15] the next slack is going to be awesome! [12:15] one of my first printers for mac was a lexmark when i was a kid.. it worked ok but sucked alot of ink.. [12:16] dissociative: Distilled water would be best if you're trying to push water through the jets [12:16] open an inkjet, and you'll probably find a permanent sponge that soaks up wasted ink [12:16] jumperboy: Any problems with your build environment? [12:16] Nick change: bolhoso -> JohnTheRipper [12:16] dna-polymerase (n=ek@86.98.167.11) left irc: [12:16] Beta2K: not here [12:16] Beta2K: no, i've built a few things without problem, but i'm trying to stay as vanilla as possible for testing [12:17] I'm getting problems with my headers [12:17] I've removed the kernel headers and reinstalled them, but no love [12:17] what sorts of problems ? you didn't try installing your own, did you ? [12:17] is there different package that contains the standard C headers like stdio.h ect [12:17] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [12:17] ? [12:18] thrice`: fread() is undefined, as is size_t [12:18] glibc [12:18] what does "ls /var/log/packages/glibc-*" say ? [12:19] /var/log/packages/glibc-2.9-i486-3 /var/log/packages/glibc-i18n-2.9-i486-3 /var/log/packages/glibc-profile-2.9-i486-3 /var/log/packages/glibc-solibs-2.9-i486-3 /var/log/packages/glibc-zoneinfo-2.9-noarch-3 [12:20] hm, that's good. did you install your own headers at some point? [12:20] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:20] No [12:20] your own kernel? [12:20] just updated from 12.2 [12:20] nope haven't touched the kernel yet [12:20] how did you update ? [12:20] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:21] hey all [12:21] slackpkg [12:21] gar0t0: all is not in today [12:21] oh and lexmarks printers are disposable printers [12:21] thumbs: :) [12:21] Atleast their lowend consumer stuff is [12:22] Beta2K: what are you building? [12:22] Their laser printers are able to survive at my college tho with little problem [12:22] jumperboy: A project called thelinkbox that I'm working on [12:22] thumbs: all is never here [12:23] gar0t0: that's true. [12:23] before updating to -current it built fine [12:23] Beta2K: have you tried anything else, like a slackbuild from SBo? [12:23] gar0t0: why do people keep on greeting him? [12:23] jumperboy: There is no slackbuild :) [12:23] Beta2K: is this one specific app, or multiple? could be a gcc 4.3 issue [12:23] Beta2K: no, i mean something else, just to see if it works [12:24] thrice`: Honestly I haven't tried compiling anything else yet [12:24] thumbs: good question!! I dont know [12:24] thumbs: but, is a good question anyway. [12:24] Beta2K: which app ? [12:25] if one wanted to search the publiclogs/any site like that. for a specific word..is there a way? [12:25] It's called thelinkbox, a ham radio project developed by Skip WB6YMH that I'm helping with [12:25] Didn't thing about gcc being the issue.. [12:26] I'll build a older gcc and try it [12:26] Nick change: init[1]|znc -> all [12:26] Nick change: all -> init[1] [12:27] init[1]: lol [12:27] i'd guess it's a gcc 4.3 issue; I'd pick a slackbuilds.org and test your toolchain, but -current's is pretty solid [12:27] gar0t0: that name is registered :( [12:27] I'm confused why gcc is having problems with headers tho... [12:27] thumbs: you read it ? all exist [12:27] :D [12:28] init[1]: hehe [12:28] Ah well, I'll start grabbing 4.0 and go bug the gcc guys :) [12:28] I must agree tho I like -current :) [12:28] i3lack0p (n=merlin@74-133-32-86.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined ##slackware. [12:29] Beta2K: whats the exact error you are getting? [12:29] pastebinit somewhere [12:30] sos__ (i=1000@117.200.49.34) joined ##slackware. [12:31] please help ! i m not able to install orbit2 on slackware 12.2 >> errors http://pastebin.com/d68d89732 [12:32] http://pastebin.com/d272bd6fa [12:32] sos__: a) you need to run configure [12:32] MarsDude (n=marsdude@a82-95-227-225.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:32] done ! [12:32] b) use this: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/libraries/ORBit2/ [12:33] Beta2K: I can't find the source on google. do you have a link? [12:33] thrice`, my slack64 server took a crap (hardware) [12:33] ;/ [12:33] sounds messy [12:33] Beta2K: definately some gcc related failures there. i was about to ask the same thing with thrice` . link? [12:33] i dunno if it's the sata controller PMSing or what [12:34] it's what the freebsd box would do. [12:34] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware ("init 0"). [12:34] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Success [12:34] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@200.92.46.186) joined ##slackware. [12:34] thrice`, i have done many time ! ( exactly as written in Install file ) but same error [12:35] http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/the-beginner-s-guide-to-slackware-linux-609245 [12:35] http://sourceforge.net/scm/?type=cvs&group_id=56357 checkout thelinkbox [12:35] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [12:35] Since the tarballs appear to have disappeared off sourceforge [12:36] JohnTheRipper (n=bolha@189-18-235-153.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:36] cqc (n=cqc@116.209.232.208) joined ##slackware. [12:36] http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=56357&package_id=319982&release_id=687683 ? [12:37] (I know I should've gotten more details) but has anyone had any problems booting slackware64-current (iso from yesterday)? [12:37] I haven't downloaded that yet, I don't know if it is the source or just the CF card image for a openwrt build [12:37] It boots and says it got an IP from the DHCP server but after that it repeats that message over and over again [12:38] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: "leaving" [12:38] MarsDude: how long is your DHCP server set to give out leases for? [12:38] so it never completes booting [12:39] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:39] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:40] don't know, but it has no problem when I installed 12.2 after this happened [12:40] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:41] and linux-mint has no problem either [12:42] as I said, I should've gotten more details ;-) [12:42] I just thought I'd ask, maybe someone else experienced the same thing [12:42] rworkman, btw, volkerdi's xf86-video-intel-2.7.99 (or whatever version) has been tested on the eee, doesn't work great : xterm doesn't show up properly for instance (no additional details since that's my internetless friend who tested and he's been a bit vague) [12:43] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.78.55) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:43] rawr he's out mowing the lawn in ripped up jeans [12:43] he never wears jeans [12:43] yo nix_chix0r :) [12:43] sahko, nice [12:43] sexeh [12:43] sup Camarade_Tux [12:44] hey nix_chix0r [12:44] yoyo [12:44] hey you think mixing jimmy dean sausage and lean beef would make a good base for a burger [12:44] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.39.210) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:44] hard to say, I don't know what they are XP [12:45] rice with "aigre-doux" sauce and two steaks [12:45] Action: Camarade_Tux is low on food [12:45] well i have a tube duno why its always in a tube. but jimmy dean is the company that makes some real nice ground sausage [12:45] i was going to mix that with ground beef to make some burgers [12:46] pork and beef [12:47] mmmm tasty burgers nix_chix0r [12:48] with aigre-doux sauce, rice and pork, I could do something nice, if only I had your pork ='( [12:48] (or you had my sauce) [12:48] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:49] nix_chix0r, the different fat content might make it a problem when grilling. [12:49] but indeed, it sounds yummy [12:49] well it's lean beef, with pork. i could use egg and some breadcrumb to bind it a little better yeah? [12:50] yes! I'm on my way over. ;) [12:51] muzz2k (n=anthony@host81-151-153-168.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:51] nheco (n=nheco@200-102-93-118.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:51] i made a bbq sauce with sriracha but i am too lazy to thaw chicken thats why i wanted to do burgers tonight [12:51] We sometimes do that with just beef, adding some spices and egg. [12:51] http://glitchtown.com/comics/2009-06-19.png ^^ [12:51] gets your fingers real cold, mixing it up [12:51] yea [12:51] muzz2k (n=anthony@host86-166-101-107.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:52] Camarade_Tux, eh [12:52] sos__ (i=1000@117.200.49.34) left irc: "Leaving" [12:52] ugh i gota go to the store and get off my ass, and just buy a damn fan [12:52] i want to get an air conditioner but [12:52] our windows slide to the left not up [12:52] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: "Leaving" [12:53] Just need to find a air conditioner that will fit the height [12:53] They make kits for filling the space [12:53] hmm [12:53] use some plywood to fill in the gap above the AC unit [12:53] acidchil1 (n=acid@spy.int.sevenl.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] yeah that would just look ghetto it's bollocks [12:53] it's a rather tall window [12:54] Or you can do like I did and build a plywood/2x4 hole that just fits the AC unit and fits nice and snug in the window :) [12:54] the whole world is a ghetto [12:54] be like 24inches of plywood [12:54] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:54] NukeDukem, yeah but i try my best to make it look as best as i can [12:54] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-165-97.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [12:54] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.193) joined ##slackware. [12:54] Paint it it you don't like the plywood look [12:54] Or, talk to the landlord about cutting a hole in the wall [12:54] gona be building a deck to the back of the house when mrs procrastination goes away [12:54] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [12:55] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [12:55] oh you own it? [12:55] yeah [12:55] I also only used 1/8" plywood and it's got a finished side [12:55] michiel (n=michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) joined ##slackware. [12:55] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:55] where do you live? wisconsin? you need an AC for how many months out of the year? 2 or 3? [12:55] acidchild (n=acid@209.146.233.10) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:55] i have a big bay window in the living room, and one in the kitchen [12:55] michiel (n=michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left ##slackware ("/*Leaving*/"). [12:55] 120" wide i think i measured [12:55] had to screw in the curtain rod [12:55] minnesota, but it is 90 fucking degrees hahaha [12:56] It's rednecky-looking, but you can find a place in the wall and cut a hole. That way you don't lose your window[s] to the AC. [12:56] i have two ceiling fans but they aren't generating enough and i dont want my windows open always in the day because the june bugs are like tring to come through my screens:) [12:56] caulk all around it, it's more efficient than being in a window [12:56] you know what's funny? [12:56] It's not too hickish if you finish it nice [12:56] right [12:56] the hole in the wall idea that is [12:57] I was in the USA, and the damn maids kept turning on the AC. I came back and turned it off immediately. [12:57] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:57] I don't understand why everybody insists on using AC down there. [12:57] thumbs, it's friggin' HOT :) [12:57] I was not too hot for me. [12:58] i like cold dry AC air when it is hot & humid outside [12:58] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*mernil*@*.priv.bahnhof.se expired. [12:58] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*mernil*@*.priv.bahnhof.se' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:58] it's 32C here right now. [12:58] I was wearing dress pants, and a shirt too. [12:58] hiptobecubic: 29 here now [12:58] I dislike it. I prefer open windows + maybe a fan if it's REALLY hot. I don't mind 80 or so with a nice breeze :) [12:58] where/when? It varies widely. We're in upper 30's C today. [12:58] rob0, where are you? [12:58] rob0: I was in NH a week ago. [12:58] Arkansas [12:59] plus, how the hell is anyone expected to sleep with the AC on? [12:59] i cant sleep when it is too hot [13:00] Action: hiptobecubic <3 AC [13:00] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:00] i have a big central AC, a Linux brand, Lennox [13:00] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [13:00] thumbs: burned to death or frozen to death? (if you had to choose) [13:00] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-135-200.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [13:00] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:01] antler: frozen. [13:01] heh me too [13:01] granted, I am used to cold. This is not surprising. [13:01] anyone using slackware current 64 with a P1005 HP printer? [13:02] What's it doing delt0r___ ? [13:02] i dont want it too cold i just want it around 65 degrees [13:02] ш [13:02] thats where im most comfortable [13:02] Beta2K, nothing... [13:03] Ok, when you connect it what does 'tail /var/log/dmesg' say? [13:03] no errors.. foo2xyj or whatever installs flawlessly as per slamd64 12.1 [13:03] log say it prints [13:03] but nothing comes out of the printer [13:03] oliver will be like 4 years old leaving the door open and i'll be like "quit lettin the bought air out" [13:03] and drink my boonsfarm [13:03] When it fails what do you get from 'tail /var/log/dmesg' ? [13:04] Beta2K, I'm on a different machine- [13:04] Can you get to the other machine? [13:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [13:05] cqc (n=cqc@116.209.232.208) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:05] the steak juiced all over me ='( [13:05] Camarade_Tux: thought you had no food [13:06] delt0r (n=delt0r@62-47-135-200.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [13:06] wb [13:06] MarsDude (n=marsdude@a82-95-227-225.adsl.xs4all.nl) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [13:07] Beta2K, Ok .... [13:07] shall I paste bin or just paste it here? [13:07] pastebin pls [13:08] antler, almost ;) [13:08] http://pastebin.com/d74b62b8a [13:09] Anything different after it fails to print? [13:10] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] nope [13:10] anything in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog? [13:10] cups print logs show a "correct" number of pages printed [13:11] everything looks fine... [13:11] anyone know french? when you say nom = last name & prenom = first name ? [13:11] http://pastebin.com/d13d539a1 [13:12] englshfrck (n=chatzill@pool-138-88-64-23.res.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] for ref... [13:12] sahko, yes [13:12] Camarade_Tux: thanks [13:12] englshfrck (n=chatzill@pool-138-88-64-23.res.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [13:12] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Excess Flood [13:12] np :) [13:12] limac (n=chatzill@pool-138-88-64-23.res.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Action: jeev is gonna use depenguinator 2.0 today on a server [13:12] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:13] centos of course [13:13] big_bass (n=big_bass@189.192.180.181) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Beta2K, also I get correct error msg when the printer is turned off ... [13:13] nix_chix0r: boonesfarm? eeww [13:14] just tried the pastebin applet... needs a nice small icon [13:14] This applicable? [13:14] http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/forum/read.php?42,1922 [13:15] paper? =0 [13:15] haha [13:16] Check this too [13:16] http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/forum/read.php?42,1688 [13:16] Beta2K, yes I found b4 [13:16] i hate printer issues [13:16] Good :) [13:16] there's probably nothing I can do to help you then sorry... [13:17] for the record I have removed the hplip package.... [13:17] i miss apsfilter myself .. nothing aginst cups. i am just too old scholl sometimes i guess. there are too many gui aps nowadays. [13:17] school* [13:17] Beta2K, Thats fine... [13:17] Thankyou for being a good user tho :) [13:17] any idea how I could go about debuging it? [13:17] One who actually looks before asking :) [13:17] I usally like error msgs [13:18] well, I'd be tempted to remove foo2zjs and recompile it [13:18] Action: dtanner fires up a Cuban ( Churchill size ) from 1959! pre-embargo. mmmmm [13:18] following the instructions on the site [13:18] hiptobecubic (n=john@pool-173-65-85-6.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Hewlett Packard makes terrible consumer laptops." [13:18] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:18] yea... tried that... ;) [13:18] hplib isn't installed? [13:19] compile cups from source [13:20] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) left irc: ":wq" [13:20] Beta2K, I uninstalled it [13:20] i wish there was a cli text editor that did smtp built in [13:20] last time it caused more problems than it solved [13:20] I tried reinstalling and using it and had no luck [13:21] i hate sendmail & postfix, i just want to send mai,l alpine sucks! [13:21] groo (n=groo@201-92-215-115.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:21] Oh I havn't tried debug compile.. or check that fooxxxx has it [13:21] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-136-50-50.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [13:22] NukeDukem: mutt does. the devel version, not the stable slack is carrying [13:22] but i use msmtp anyway [13:23] sahko: really? mutt might include smtp? [13:23] yeap like a year ago [13:23] have you tried it? [13:23] that [13:23] of course [13:23] that would be perfect if there was a vim-like text editor that included a smtp mta built in [13:23] it works ok with gmail [13:23] its not rocket science i guess [13:24] that's the only deal breaker for me (but i still use it sometimes for quick checking) [13:24] delt0r: often tiems there are several drivers that will work with a given printer. sometimes just try and see what works. [13:25] II will lurk to see if anyone else knows something [13:25] dtanner, what other dirvers should I try --there are 100s... [13:25] this is a USB printer [13:25] HP P1005 [13:26] cheap and blindly fast [13:27] never tried to get that one working. look around the HP drivers in the cups list in that GUI it uses. [13:27] jumperboy: just reread what you said mutt *includes* smtp. theres no might in the equation. all you need is grab the sources and --enable-smtp [13:27] ftp://ftp.mutt.org/mutt/devel/mutt-1.5.19.tar.gz [13:28] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:28] mohaa (i=1000@92.49.77.193) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:28] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.12.109) joined ##slackware. [13:28] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] mohaa (i=1000@92.49.77.14) joined ##slackware. [13:28] can someone help me with linux :P [13:29] try wikipedia :P [13:29] sahko, yeah, wikipedia knows everything [13:30] brklynRednek, depends [13:30] nbuonanno (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:30] sahko: thanks, i'll try it out [13:30] delt0r, on? [13:30] brklynRednek, ?? [13:30] i saw it on TV , i read it on wikipedia, someone told me on the IRC. all mean the same [13:30] Action: delt0r is confused [13:31] limac (n=chatzill@pool-138-88-64-23.res.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:31] delt0r: HP LaserJet P1005 [13:31] BW laser printer, max. 600x600 dpi, works Mostly [13:31] ? [13:31] sahko, nah, wikipedia is more reliable than irc :P [13:31] delt0r, you said depends, i asked on what? [13:31] we're only a bunch of lazy slackers ;) [13:32] wikipedia is as reliable as any social site, IWO not very [13:32] anyone here plays savage? [13:32] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.19.202) joined ##slackware. [13:32] delt0r: i like the "works Mostly" [13:32] in case you guys didn't notice, i AM being a smartass [13:32] most rednecks are [13:32] brklynRednek: noooo shit [13:32] anyone knows if freebsd can only be installed in a primary partition? [13:33] The-Croupier, some seem to have taken me seriously [13:33] question: is there a limitation on size of uid integer? ie 65536 [13:33] dissociative: not sure, but i think that's true for openbsd [13:33] dtanner, a bit like "mostly harmless" [13:33] brklynRednek: we dont get anyone seriously, unless he deserves it :p [13:33] nheco (n=nheco@200-102-93-118.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [13:33] brklynRednek, what help you need [13:33] well, going to do that long overdue washing machine, bbl :) [13:34] The-Croupier, well, i walked through brooklyn wearing a clown nose yesterday...if that means anything [13:34] jumperboy: well it seems that it is for freebsd too [13:34] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:34] delt0r, honestly, nothing...everything is working fine for me [13:34] is there a limitation on size of uid integer? ie 65536 [13:34] brklynRednek, thats slackware for ya... mostly works... [13:35] brklynRednek, so, any question beside [13:35] 'can I ask a question ?' [13:35] Camarade_Tux: no? [13:35] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426279.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:35] ;) [13:35] delt0r, i haven't put my acpi config into it yet, but that's no biggie [13:36] I find acpi a mixed bag in any OS [13:36] delt0r, the only thing i make it do is hibernate when power button pressed or critical battery [13:36] slamd64 is the only one that worked on the laptop.. vista = epic fail [13:36] ugh [13:36] big_bass (n=big_bass@189.192.180.181) left ##slackware. [13:37] just that name gives me chills [13:37] delt0r, i'm using 32 bit atm...and, surprisingly, i found a difference between slack and slamd [13:37] Action: delt0r goes to eat something... rather than just drink all day [13:37] slack will error if SigC is called in that way, slamd won't [13:38] guys, do i need to empty /tmp/ ? and i noticed that some pkg build there... is there a way to know what is safe to delete? [13:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:38] slack requires SigC to be called as sigc [13:38] is there a manual anything that helps with this? [13:38] The-Croupier, is this a serious question? [13:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:39] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:39] brklynRednek: is there a serious answer for this? [13:39] The-Croupier, yes [13:39] which is? [13:39] The-Croupier, if you are in x, particularly kde, you shouldn't clear your /tmp since kde puts files in there to keep itself happy [13:40] The-Croupier, there are a few important files in /tmp but they mostly begin with '.' and are hidden, so if you're not using /tmp right now, you can probably issue a 'rm -r /tmp/*' [13:40] but i you're in runlevel 3, you may, with impunity, delete the contents of /tmp [13:41] i see [13:41] also, some(including myself) put /tmp as a tmpfs(doesn't survive reboot) [13:41] brklynRednek: that's not true, but you may clear /tmp/ at boot [13:41] lol, 'down' in mplayer doesn't goes back, it goes ahead >< [13:41] jumperboy: how do you delete that at boot? you mean after you login before startx [13:42] The-Croupier, in /etc/rc.local rm -rf /tmp/* [13:42] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:42] or rc.local_shutdown [13:42] slackboy, that works too [13:42] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:42] got tmp as tmpfs, tho [13:42] slackboy, that actually works better in case you use hibernate [13:43] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [13:44] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:44] rc.S is the ideal place for that [13:44] stupid cable modem. [13:45] Camarade_Tux, down goes bacl [13:45] The-Croupier: edit to your liking http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14799 [13:45] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-183-173.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [13:46] i don't touch rc.S (or rc.M and others...) [13:47] antler (n=antler@S0106000129d4e75b.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:47] chopp: thanks ill check it now [13:51] lol http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8102756.stm [13:52] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:52] wondering if you can tilt an a/c sideways [13:52] i dont think the windows are wide enough now that i think about it [13:52] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-172-11.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [13:52] hey firebird619 :) still on flux heheh [13:52] Hey nix_chix0r, how are you? [13:52] hiya antler, firebird619 [13:52] im ok [13:52] y0 firebird619 [13:52] hey The-Croupier [13:52] y0 antle.....Whoa, your what? [13:53] antler [13:53] firebird619: hahaha how you doing [13:53] frb (n=frb@p5B0EC672.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware. [13:53] doing great, thanks. yourself? [13:53] Hey The-Croupier [13:53] firebird619: excellent, thanks [13:53] I can't believe you're still on flux. I'm amazed. [13:55] i love this greetings... you always end up with 20lines of lines of hi... [13:55] lol [13:56] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:56] nix_chix0r: I'm not sure you can tilt an ac sideways. I don't know about how new ones are designed, but the older ones usually have drain holes for water to run out of. If you tilt it, the water wouldn't drain right, unless you made another hole, which if so, you'd have to be careful you didn't drill into anything. [13:57] antler: So, have you got your flux menus, etc. transparent yet? [13:57] our window slides to the left and when that stops you measure it and it is 21inches but every a/c i see is at least 22inches or a standard of 25 [13:57] so i dont think i can find one to fit they seem to be quite large [13:58] yeah, it'll be difficult finding one that'll fit then. [13:58] firebird619: haha yeah, i like it.... yeah menu's all good. no transparency. probably won't do too much. just keep it pretty much default. [13:58] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-57-97.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:59] I love sbopkg [13:59] antler: cool. glad you like it. [13:59] thumbs: ++ [13:59] thumbs, sbopkg is another gift of the dark side...enjoy [13:59] nah, it merely makes it easier to manage the self-built packages. [14:01] y0 brklynRednek, how's it going? [14:01] firebird619, it's going ok [14:01] antler: Now to just get you away from Kontact. :D [14:02] clear [14:02] fail [14:02] ;) [14:02] firebird619: i was just going to say that. don't like the sound of claws from what you've been saying :P [14:02] firebird619, kontact? yick [14:02] firebird619: everytime, alt+tab..clear...then realise it didnt work;) [14:03] firebird619: that and set up my kb shortcuts and i'm set for a while [14:03] theres always someone to remind me that it didnt work..by replying with fail..;) its like a reliable script echo "fail" :P [14:03] firebird619: oh there's amarok, too. don't know if i can find a better alternative, though [14:03] brklynRednek: agreed. At first I thought it was gonna be really nice, but then it messed with my e-mails and it can't even see my imap stuff right. :P So I'm on claws, and I finally figured out a long time annoyance of mine in opera mail. [14:03] antler: how about xmms [14:04] antler: I've been using amarok lately, but before that, xmms ftw. [14:04] The-Croupier: yeah, many peeps do like that, but.... [14:04] antler: Well, if you send html e-mails, claws isn't for you. [14:04] antler: to me, its simple, small, so..;) why not [14:04] it won't send html. It can view html using one of those plugins though. [14:05] The-Croupier: and starts fast. :) [14:05] firebird619, http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5402962#ProductDetail [14:05] firebird619: most of all [14:05] that should work [14:05] a vertical a/c [14:06] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [14:07] Is your window 21" wide? That link: Product in Inches (L x W x H): 14.5 x 23.84 x 20.47 [14:07] bbiab [14:12] grrrr [14:12] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "jogo do brasil \o/" [14:13] i am wondering if the width is the actual depth because it's taller than it is wide [14:13] the picture shows it that way [14:14] the term length is meaningless [14:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:14] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:14] people should use H W D to note dimensions [14:15] height width depth [14:15] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-136-50-50.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:16] v4nelle (n=van@adsl3-216.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:17] well yeah but they dont do that [14:20] nix_chix0r, agreed, just shared my opinion, for what it's worth [14:20] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:20] your opinions aren't finding me a airconditioner that fit in my damn windows either:P [14:22] nix_chix0r, here's a suggestion, go to wal-mart and everywhere else you'd shop for it, with a tape measure, and compare what you need to what they're trying to sell you [14:23] Action: thumbs settles for no AC [14:23] yeah i just found one that is verticle but i tried to ship it to the store cause they only have 2 small a/cs that would be a pointless buy because of the btu's [14:23] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:23] Does something special need to be done in alsa to get surround sound to work? [14:23] and they want me to pay for it first even though it ships to the store free when i c ould just pay20bucks to have it sent to my house [14:24] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [14:24] complete bollocks [14:24] lolwut: maybe un-mute some channels in alsamixer [14:24] nix_chix0r, and if it doesn't fit, you can take it back [14:24] might just have to get one of the portable a/cs [14:24] appzer0, they are all open [14:25] yo [14:26] heret|c (n=heretic@c-68-32-70-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:28] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:29] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-140-53-18.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:30] oh i know i could. it's just a 30min drive haha [14:30] i live in the woods [14:30] nix_chix0r: you have a point there with the width, it looks taller than it does wide, and the greatest dimension there is the 23.84. [14:31] firebird619, and i think that's the depth for some reason and walmarts chinese asses can't do things right [14:31] that could be the depth too as you mention, you can't tell from that picture what the depth looks like. [14:31] haha [14:31] v4nelle (n=van@adsl3-216.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:31] cause like a verticle a/c shouldnt be 23inches wide because then it would be like a reglar a/c [14:32] yeah, exactly. [14:32] and i think the point of the verticle is for people who have verticle windows lol [14:32] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [14:32] Action: edman007 gives nix_chix0r a diagonally mounted circular window [14:32] nix_chix0r: http://www.haieramerica.com/en/product/HWVR08XC6 [14:33] lol [14:33] edman007: haha [14:33] firebird619, i knew it [14:33] thanks [14:33] yw [14:35] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@200.92.46.186) left irc: "Saliendo" [14:36] for those who diss walmart i'll have to say bestbuy is charging 449.99 for that same a/c and walmart is charging 298 [14:36] where would you buy it [14:36] Best Buy's prices are horrible. It's always more expensive there, for pretty much anything. [14:37] shit even amazon wants over 300 for it [14:37] and that rarely happens [14:38] Lexus (n=alexey@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [14:38] nix_chix0r, my AC was under $100 at walmart.... [14:39] works fine for my room [14:39] edman007, i have to cool like over 350sq ft [14:39] think the house is 2thousand [14:39] Action: edman007 moves in [14:40] lol [14:40] haha [14:41] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:42] edman007: I could get there before you could. :P [14:45] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Greetings NyteOwl [14:46] hi firebird619, et al [14:47] NyteOwl: How's it going? [14:48] not bad. raining here but otherwise a lazy SUndaya fternoon [14:48] firebird619, where are you again? [14:48] raining here too [14:48] its raining here...you must be close! [14:48] edman007: Minnesota. 6 hours from nix_chix0r [14:48] damn you [14:48] haha [14:49] wait, no...i don't think i like minnesota, so thats probably a good thing [14:49] lol [14:49] i'll just have nix_chix0r move her house over here [14:49] are you paying for the move? [14:50] i'll put some money towards it, i got a jar here and it looks like a lot of quarters are in it [14:50] haha, start counting them. :P [14:51] i'm trying to find a place on long island anyways...damn expensive over there [14:52] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:52] wow ion3 is cool [14:52] this is better than kde4 [14:52] it's super productive [14:53] i can't help but be productive. this is forcing me to be productive. I'm sorry, but I have to change distros because ion3 is making me productive and i can no longer act in accordance with slackware values. [14:53] Action: dartmouth hangs his slacker hat on the hook and walks away in shame [14:53] dartmouth: yeah, it's very nice. Only gripe I have about it is that when you right click a tab of an app you have running, you have to hold the mouse button down or the menu won't stay. [14:54] dartmouth, well if you switch to flux you can't stop working, i'm not sure if thats a good thing [14:54] firebird619: well, in the spirit of ion3, you'd think that menu would just be keyboard driven [14:54] edman007: on the other hand it might stop him waffling lyrically. So there might be a good thing. ;) [14:54] haha [14:54] lol [14:54] Heya BP{k}. How's it going? [14:54] i also don't like how with multiple screen divisions the tab navigation in that screen division is awkward [14:55] mmm, lyrical waffles [14:55] firebird619: Good, doing some gentle spodding. kethry is in the kitchen working on sunday roast and beer is in the fridge :) [14:55] BP{k}: LOL! I do not 'waff', and I certainly don't do it 'lyrically'. That would require an imagination. [14:55] Most of the world works so they can afford necessities and pay for leisure ctivities. North americans take leisure time so they can rest up to be more productive worker ants :) [14:55] BP{k}: sounds like a good day then. :) [14:55] dartmouth, menus? i don't really use em...i only use a menu for taking screenshots because i forget the command [14:56] edman007: scrot -d 5 :P [14:56] lol im still using ksnapshot [14:56] you have to install scrot first [14:56] dartmouth, exactly, now you know why we want you to stop [14:56] hah [14:56] firebird619, i use an imagemagik thing i think [14:56] you know if i were still cpunches i'd take offense to that :P [14:57] firebird619: just as a Sunday should be. :) [14:57] oh, you're cpunches [14:57] BP{k}: agreed [14:57] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [14:57] lol [14:57] Action: dartmouth waves [14:57] Action: edman007 adds dartmouth to /ignore [14:57] :( [14:57] now it makes sense. [14:57] lol [14:57] Action: firebird619 seconds edman007's motion [14:57] edman007: heh, imagemagick works too. [14:57] fine. I will take my ion3 and productivity to people who love me. like the staff at Whitecastle Burgers. [14:58] dartmouth: so you're going to Ubuntu? :P [14:58] hah [14:58] i've actually considered playing with another distro for a while just to get a change of pace [14:58] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:58] could go to Fedora. :P [14:58] i can't really stand ubuntu, it's awkward for me [14:58] fedora doesn't seem to be stable to me [14:58] Arch [14:59] worth looking into [14:59] arch is cool [14:59] i'd really like to do an LFS for educational purposes [14:59] just dont have the time [14:59] sidux is okay too but its installer is cranky... so you have to do a totl fresh install and then pput your /home data back [14:59] dartmouth: make time. :P [14:59] let me understand... you are changing from slackware because of ion3? i have never tried to compile ion3 but it should run on slack. *shrug* [15:00] im almost certain if i did LFS i'd find myself going back to the slackbox and modding it up with what i learn. [15:00] whats the advantage of doing lfs [15:00] dtanner: It does. [15:00] like prettying up the init process [15:00] it is ugly [15:00] "prettying up the init process"... huh? [15:01] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:01] then that was the most insane statement i have heard in some time. [15:01] dtanner: This is his reasoning for switching: I'm sorry, but I have to change distros because ion3 is making me productive and i can no longer act in accordance with slackware values. [15:01] y0 Urchlay, How's it going/ [15:01] VampirePenguin: you learn exactly how everything works, and you get to tweak and customize from the ground up [15:01] why do you care what it looks like, you only see it during boot, and linux doesn't need to reboot constantly to work right... [15:01] non-uniform; too verbose. i want an animated, graphical boot that tells me what's going on without too much...like the rhgb in the older fedora core distros [15:01] firebird619 [15:02] wait'll something breaks and you try to fix it. Then you'll be glad it's "too verbose"... [15:02] hopefully so i can start throwing a modded up slackware on pc's i build for others [15:02] delt0r (n=delt0r@62-47-135-200.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:02] does it run the sam iinit levels as slack NyteOwl [15:03] VampirePenguin: if you design it to :) [15:03] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:03] hmmmm [15:04] Action: VampirePenguin passes dartmouth slackpup [15:04] firebird619: still 1/2 asleep [15:05] Action: firebird619 hands Urchlay some coffee [15:05] mmm coffee [15:05] Action: firebird619 pours coffee over dartmouth's head. [15:05] Action: firebird619 runs [15:06] yeah, gettin coffeed up now [15:07] luckily for me, I can absorb coffee through my skin. I can drink someone's coffee right out of their mug through a closed door. [15:07] Action: NyteOwl needs a refill [15:08] Urchlay: maybe you need an I.V. drip of coffee connected to you at night, make it in sync with your alarm clock and five minutes before the alarm goes off, it starts the coffee drip. :P [15:08] some bunch of idiots apaprently home from the bars stated singing and hollering at the top of their lungs at 3:45 this moring and kept it up for almsot 15 minutes [15:08] Apparently I have this ability regarding insemination as well. [15:09] ALVAN1 (n=neko@188.24.22.191) left irc: "Leaving." [15:09] I was within a minute or two of calling the cops when everything suddenly went dead silent [15:09] Wow, since July 07, I've taken 1,840 pictures of clouds alone. :P [15:09] maybe someone else did ;) [15:09] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-172-11.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:09] firebird619: knowing me I'd roll over and cut off the coffee flow in the tube... [15:09] firebird619: left your webcam on the windowledge? [15:10] firebird619: have you looked at them from both sides now? [15:10] NyteOwl: haha, no. This is with my digital camera, going out and taking the pictures. :) [15:10] firebird619: umm, thats not clowd computing [15:10] NukeDukem: haha [15:10] cloud* [15:10] Urchlay: lol, yeah, then it wouldn't work to effectively [15:11] further, I'd probably wake up choking to death, with the damn thing wrapped around my neck [15:11] Total # of Pictures I have on my hdd right now: 10, 218 [15:11] apparently I move a *lot* in my sleep (not aware of it though) [15:11] bbl guys, gotta go to work for a bit. year-end paperwork:( [15:12] i used to leave computers running around the house with nothing but slideshows of photos from our fileserver [15:12] lot better than albums that never got opened [15:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:12] ahh, good times... [15:13] " Camarade_Tux, down goes bacl" ? [15:13] Action: firebird619 hits Camarade_Tux with a stinky trout. [15:14] there's one of those little self-contained "picture frame" things here, you stick a CF card full of photos in there & it does a slideshow [15:14] Action: Camarade_Tux dodges and firebird619 falls to the ground [15:14] yeah, but they're mostly crap [15:14] I keep wanting to pull it apart, see if there's a way to get a login prompt on it :) [15:14] Camarade_Tux: I used a slingshot, I didn't fall. :D [15:15] i like pulling from the entire collection [15:15] this one might qualify as crap, the display is a bit washed-out looking, but then it's been powered on continuously for a few years [15:15] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:15] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:16] i bought one for my wife to use at her office, it's buggy as hell and particular about the image files [15:16] heh, I rent a room from an old lady, I don't think she'd appreciate a slide show of pics taken from my *whole* collection [15:16] i think it won't read progressive jpegs or something weird like that [15:16] ugh, lame [15:16] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Success [15:16] wwowwwwwwww [15:17] anyone see what happened to italy in the game? 3 goals in 7 minutes, 1 was an accident [15:17] Urchlay: lol, i limit it to the G-rated family photos [15:17] imagemagick is free and supports pretty much everything, they can't use that? [15:17] jeev: shushh! gotta watch egypt first! [15:17] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [15:17] heh [15:17] crazy ish [15:17] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-135-200.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:18] i think i'll make a bet with my wife :) [15:18] delt0r (n=delt0r@62-47-134-236.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [15:18] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-134-236.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [15:18] eh. football (what we call soccer in the US)? How do you score a goal by accident? [15:18] (or did the guy score against his own team?) [15:19] you'd be amazed ;) [15:19] firebird619: http://www.mwnch.co.uk/2006/11/16/cider-baked-ham/ <-- that's whats for dinner. \o/ [15:19] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:19] firebird619, yes you did, the proof being that I'm still here ;) [15:20] BP{k}: i'm trying to lose weight, stop posting food porn! [15:20] Camarade_Tux: Just because I can't aim doesn't mean I fell. :P [15:20] BP{k}: nice, looks like good eats. :) [15:20] firebird619, hmm, right [15:20] :D [15:20] i need to lose 3oz by tomorrow morning [15:21] Action: Camarade_Tux hugs jumperboy [15:21] jumperboy: katana's can be usefull there ;) [15:21] run for your life ! <3 [15:21] katanas* [15:21] what's a katanas? [15:21] Action: NyteOwl has a palte of freshly baked homemade cinnamon rolls on the cupboard [15:21] katana is Japanese for sword [15:21] jumperboy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katana [15:21] jumperboy, you can cut a foot of yours, that should do it :) [15:22] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-172-11.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [15:22] ahh, the seppuku diet [15:22] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-172-11.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:22] generally in refering to a long sword but itcan be a short sword too [15:22] i'll pass :) [15:23] NyteOwl: the short sword is usually referred to as Wakizashi though. [15:23] Anyway, I have just been informed that my dinner is about to be served. laters. [15:23] BP{k}: yes and there is a prope name for the lnog sword as well. the word katana just means sword ;) [15:26] yeah, enought underwear, socks and shirts for the week :) [15:26] but no pants? [15:27] lol [15:28] already had enough of that ;) [15:28] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] erisco [15:29] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:29] perfect timing urchlay [15:30] OH i just logged in. my error. what's up buddy? [15:30] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:31] ^^ [15:31] dunneaux. Drinking coffee, trying to reach consciousness [15:32] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:32] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [15:32] Urchlay, want to talk abot my bass amp for a minute? I think it sounds kinda off. [15:33] ehhh, how so? [15:34] joshyro (n=josh@187.153.73.108) joined ##slackware. [15:34] applied basic troubleshooting procedure? (try same bass on different amp, try different bass on your amp) [15:34] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@155.86.215.200.res.nat.netvision.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:35] if it's an open-backed cabinet, make sure no cats have crawled in there to take a nap :) [15:35] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-129.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:36] I don't have other basses to test it with, my acoustic bass gives horrible feedback when p[luged in. [15:36] DoNoBaN (i=1000@77.211.64.252) joined ##slackware. [15:37] The sound happens past certain volume, i think the amp should be able to handle it if the number is on the dial. [15:37] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:37] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:38] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0DC4C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] pprkut: Hi there, still the problem with bluetooth, i've foud a thread in linuxquestion.org, and as you say, is a problem with the dbus now i editin my bluetooth.conf again :( [15:38] acoustic = hollow, resonant body. A lot more likely to feed back than a solid piece of wood [15:39] that's why sometimes you see blues guitar players who play hollowbody guitars stuffing them full of rags [15:40] I used it in school for a year and let 2 other kids use it, i'm not sure how well they treated the thing but it never went past about 2.5 or 3 volume. it's a 200w amp. [15:41] joshyro: hi. you can just use the link I gave you yesterday. It will work with that file [15:41] joshyro: http://www.liwjatan.at/files/bluetooth.conf [15:41] yeah... it's not the amp's fault really, it's the instrument. Figure out a way to damp the vibrations of the large hollow piece of wood... [15:42] I'm not complaining about the feedback on the acoustic guitar. [15:42] oh, OK. What was the problem then? (/me is still about 30% asleep) [15:42] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [15:43] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:43] yup, i use that configuration, but the error message is the same: "The process for the bluetooth protocol died unexpectedly" [15:43] pprkut: [15:43] There is a hum when the amp is on, but I can supress it by messing with my EQ knobs, and also i can get rid of parts of the hum by touching different parts of the amp (i'll try to link the piece of equipment i'm talking about) [15:44] joshyro: you have to stop rc.bluetooth, restart rc.messagebus and afterwards start rc.bluetooth again for the changes to take effect [15:44] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:44] joshyro: or a restart, but that would be boring :P [15:45] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:45] mohaa (i=1000@92.49.77.14) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [15:45] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@155.86.215.200.res.nat.netvision.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [15:47] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0DC4C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [15:49] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-223-51.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:49] Camarade_Tux, in mplayer, down *is* back [15:49] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: "Leaving" [15:50] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A72312.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] urchlay, i think the amp is just in a bad spot and is getting grounding problems. It's not a huge deal. [15:51] hrrr, bad ground sucks. Hum goes away or reduces when you touch the strings? [15:52] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-172-11.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [15:53] Touching the strings will make it less but that's a whole separate problem, my bass isn't in the nicest condition. I used it all year in school and at home. If i don't have anything plugged in than there is a slight buzz past a certain volume that will go away if i mess with the EQ knobs or touch parts of the actually amp. [15:54] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] joshyro (n=josh@187.153.73.108) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [15:56] te (n=te@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [15:56] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-69-157.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:57] I just looked up some videos of other amps, and mine sounds fine, i was just worrying. [15:58] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [15:58] Trying to compile xf86-video-intel-2.7.0 for my laptop's Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device and encountered error: Package requirements (libdrm >= 2.4.6) were not met: [15:58] Requested 'libdrm >= 2.4.6' but version of libdrm is 2.3.0 [15:58] tooly (n=theo@e178148098.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [15:59] Any ideas as to how to get the job done? [15:59] (This is supposed to be newer more advanced video driver.) [15:59] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A72312.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:01] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-177.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [16:04] argh, sorry, got called away from irc... [16:05] te: libdrm-2.4.11 is in -current, you can get the source and the slackbuild from there [16:05] as long as the actual notes from your bass are much louder than the hum, I'd say don't worry about it [16:06] if it's 60Hz hum, you can even tune to it (60Hz = almost a Bb, close enough for practice...) [16:07] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A73BAC.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:09] number_three (n=dave@adsl-69-219-229-69.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:10] i realized i just need to be nice to the strings when I play, the hum is a grounding deal that prbably won't happen if i move into the basement. [16:10] I'm going to go buy Orange Box so i can play halflife 2, take care budy [16:10] adios [16:10] be nice to the strings when i'm playing with hte knobs wicked high*(8 9 10) [16:10] what, you dig in & beat the crap out of the strings? [16:11] might try a compressor/limiter pedal [16:11] AH HA! i know why i could not check mail with alpine now, that imapd package is part of alpine, why it is a separate package? i built alpine using Pat's slackbuild and it was included [16:14] NukeDukem: imapd is part of alpine? [16:14] alpine was already on the pc for me, I'm on current though. [16:15] /var/log/packages/imapd-2.00-x86_64-2 [16:15] I tried getting mutt working, but it absolutely will not read my e-mails at all. [16:16] and same on 12.2 (imapd a separate pkg there [16:16] yeah, separate here too. [16:16] yeah, i got the source of alpine and the patches & slackbuild, put em all in /tmp and ran the slackbuild thinking i would have only an alpine package and there was alpine and imapd too [16:16] oh, the same slackbuild, builds both packages? [16:16] v4nelle (n=van@adsl3-216.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:16] yup [16:17] I wish SBo would let us do that, at least for some stuff [16:18] sometimes when i build a package that really requires two separate items built to satisfy dependencies i put them together in a single slackware package [16:18] NukeDukem: so do you have alpine working now? [16:18] yeah [16:18] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:18] works nice? [16:18] works good [16:18] I'll have to try setting that up too, mutt just won't work. I just want it to get the mail from my imap server. [16:18] even display email better than using another get mail app and looking at it in a text editor [16:19] cool [16:19] hides all those ugly header infos [16:19] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) joined ##slackware. [16:21] NukeDukem: did you just configure it with alpine itself in the Setup? Or is there something like an alpinerc file you can edit. [16:22] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:22] hey is there a way to clean up my home directory of all these .$app/ directories? i guess the new standard is .local? is there a method of migration for all of this so I don't have to dig through hundreds of directories i rarely use every time i have an 'open file' dialog? [16:22] yeah [16:22] oh sweet [16:23] dartmouth: in the dialog just right click and uncheck show hidden files. :P [16:23] hah [16:23] HAHA [16:23] ::cough, cough:: [16:23] ARGH, alpine won't open my imap either. :( [16:24] alpine has a decent config option, could use a little more work but it is usable, looks like it has a lot of features most people would never use [16:25] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [16:25] haha, (Z) Remote Configuration Setup for IMAP. :P [16:26] eichi (n=eichi@p5B200A21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:26] yup [16:26] I didn't even see that before. [16:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:27] bbl :) [16:27] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [16:27] NukeDukem: What did you put for Name of Server to contain remote addrbook? Can you put anything there? [16:28] Or aren't you using imap? [16:28] wow, i just checked netstat -a and it looks like alpine keeps a connection open all the time, i gotta change that so check for mail and close the connection [16:29] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [16:29] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [16:29] y0 Cann0n [16:29] sup! [16:29] nm, yourself? [16:29] oh man... lol. been all over the south [16:30] i guess i better look in to mutt, or find a better console type email client [16:30] i will keep alpine until i find something better [16:30] my buddy died up in North GA, went up there. then my GF got leave so i had to drive all the way down to south FL to pic her up [16:31] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-80-157.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] that was last week lol [16:31] you had lots of windsheild time [16:31] i got kicked out of that bird house [16:32] it's been pretty crazy past month [16:32] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426279.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:32] Cann0n: sounds like you've had an eventful month. [16:34] Plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:34] yeah. i went up to stay with some friends up there [16:35] Lexus (n=alexey@62.165.60.236) left ##slackware. [16:35] cool. I'm just working on changing the font color in flux on the slit. :P [16:35] soo, mutt needs a app to send and recieve mail? maybe mutt will use alpine's imapd then put getmail back in and i can send & recieve with mutt [16:35] NukeDukem: I haven't got mutt working at all with my imap. :( [16:35] i drove all night and started drinking 8:30AM til 4:30AM the next day, then got a 4 hour nap and started all over again [16:35] hope you have good luck. [16:35] haha [16:36] went camping on the peak of this mountain with nothing but a sheet and fuor tall boys [16:36] four* [16:37] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] tall boys = 32oz Beers in a can [16:37] haha [16:37] mutt developers have refused to implement SMTP, preferring instead to use sendmail(1) for submission. There are patches, but last I heard, mutt mainstream was never planning to support SMTP. [16:37] nuke ^^ [16:37] it got about 45F which was cold cuz i came from florida [16:38] I just setup mutt to use msmtp instead of send mail. Now I just need to get it to read my imap server emails. [16:38] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.193) left irc: [16:38] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [16:38] IMO their refusal makes no sense, because they do support POP3 & IMAP. Either stay out of network protocols altogether, or implement all the ones which are needed. [16:38] i am going to figure it out, i dont really like alpine, i just want an app to checkmail and close the connection and alpine method of configuring is a damn mess, getmail is cool, so if i can figure out imapd and mutt i am in business [16:39] getmail can do imap too [16:39] i had getmail retrieving mail nicely, i just want to send email too [16:40] NukeDukem: msmtp (on SBo) will work nice with mutt, or you can use sendmail. [16:40] These days, I think it's a bad idea to assume that every Unix machine has a working MTA, and that's likely to become a worse idea over time. MTA admin is tough. [16:40] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:40] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:41] yeah, its a shame there is not a really good email client for the linux console, everybody focuses on a desktop GUI & apps its like the console is getting kicked to the curb even with linux [16:41] There *is* emacs ... :) [16:42] joshyro (n=josh@187.153.73.108) joined ##slackware. [16:42] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:42] greetings, im trying to run mysql..but for some reaon i get cant connect to local mysqld server through socket /var/run/mysql/mysql.sock :( i did run mysql before but for some reason something is happening..has this happened to anyone before? or is it just me? [16:42] hiya rob0 [16:42] no X, this old laptop has a crappy old ati mobility with 16 megs of video ram and xorg runs like crap on it so i am going to do it all from the console [16:42] The-Croupier, just you ;) [16:42] rob0: ok..then [16:43] NukeDukem: I use dovecot for my imap. :) [16:43] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [16:43] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:43] pprkut: :D bluetooth is working. [16:43] NukeDukem: this is for dovecot, but maybe it will help you: http://wiki.dovecot.org/mutt [16:43] ok, let me have a look [16:44] NukeDukem: and there's this: http://mutt.sourceforge.net/imap/ [16:44] pprkut: but the problem is that when I type kbluetooth, must be do with root privileges, i cant run it with my normal user :( [16:45] Nick change: a750mhzslinky -> BlakNinjaSlink [16:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:46] guys theres is none on slackwiki/aliens docuwiki.. anyone knows anywhere else to set it up for slackware? [16:46] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [16:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:47] joshyro: in what groups is your user (output of "groups")? [16:49] pprkut: my groups are: users floppy audio video cdrom apache plugdev vboxusers [16:50] joshyro: what's the error message you get? [16:50] as normal user [16:51] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:52] pprkut: when I type kbluetooth, i get the message "The process for the bluetooth protocol died unexpectedly." [16:52] hurray kde :> [16:52] pprkut: I think is because with my normal user i cant get access to my bluetooth device, only root :S [16:53] joshyro: well, I can, so it should be possible for you as well [16:53] Action: The-Croupier fixed it ;) rob0 you were right ;) piece of cake [16:53] thanks [16:55] pprkut: I've closed my terminal, and the kbluetooth is running yet :D, but i dont know why does not run with normal user :S [16:55] te (n=te@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:56] floorislava (n=dsage@31.88.249.216.dsl.dyn.smithvilledsl.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:02] pprkut: i dont know if I can receive files :S [17:03] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Connection timed out [17:03] joshyro: try to use "bluetooth:/" in konqueror [17:03] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [17:06] The-Croupier: have you run mysql_install_db? [17:06] pprkut: the same error message! (is normal user), but in my task bar is the icon that was created with root comand, and there I can see "bluetooth:/" [17:07] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426279.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:08] nm, problem solved already [17:08] pprkut: "bluetooth:/" is the home for root user :( [17:08] joshyro: sorry, I have no idea left. But you can try taling a look at the console output of kdebluetooth when that error appears. [17:09] joshyro: using that on google might give you the correct solution [17:10] Cann0n (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:10] pprkut: I've google it and nothing. but I going to do again :D [17:11] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:12] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:13] mrS (n=Sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:13] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:15] pprkut: this is the last part of the error in terminal with normal user: error name "(unset)" destination "org.bluez" [17:15] Urchlay: ;) offcourse [17:15] mrS (n=Sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:16] seeya tomorrow guys ;) most of it sorted...time to make them scripts and dont deal with this all the time ;) [17:17] joshyro: did you logout and login again after restarting rc.bluetooth? have you restartet the system? [17:18] last thing missing.. barnyard..is there such a thing on slackware...anywhere? [17:18] been looking for a whole day today [17:19] what is it? [17:19] pprkut: i did stop my services and restartet, and I've restarted my box :P and nothing... the message is the same. i could be the config file? [17:19] joshyro: you can try, but it shouldn't be [17:19] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) joined ##slackware. [17:19] "Output spool reader for Snort! This program decouples output overhead from the Snort network intrusion detection " <--- that? [17:20] pprkut: yap, the config file is ok... :( [17:20] pprkut: user privileges but where :( [17:20] ? [17:20] Urchlay: i dont know yet..have never seen it..thats why im looking for it [17:21] Urchlay: but looks like it..thats what im trying to do as well [17:21] ehh, if you don't know what it is... why are you even looking for it in the first place? :) [17:21] Urchlay: because it was suggested/supposed to do that [17:21] mix with snort ;) [17:22] The-Croupier: you could take advantage of this wonderful opportunity to learn to write slackbuild scripts, and become a SBo contributor... [17:22] pprkut: maybe is problem with dbus.. :S [17:22] joshyro: "ps -A | grep hcid" [17:23] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [17:23] pprkut: 3618 ? 00:00:00 hcid :D [17:24] _dieter_ (n=dieter@92.116.65.56) joined ##slackware. [17:24] Urchlay: ive tried lots of time ;) never manage it :( and its so simple [17:24] joshyro: ok, so bluetooth is running [17:24] i can edit them..read them..see mistakes...mine never work for some reason :( [17:25] joshyro: there's got to be some issue with bluetooth and dbus. It *should* work, but for some reason I can't see it's not [17:25] Action: The-Croupier is in a meeting with parents, brb [17:25] pprkut: :( [17:26] pprkut: if I upgrade dbus ? [17:26] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:26] bijit (i=1000@190.241.15.48) joined ##slackware. [17:26] joshyro: it's not a matter of the version of the software you use. This is definitely some configuration issue [17:26] joshyro: you haven't mixed bluez stuff from -current into a 12.2 box, or something ? [17:27] thrice`: bluez from -current is pretty much the same as in 12.2, apart from the dbus-config [17:28] sure, and he was getting a dbus error, it looked like :> [17:28] I know that 12.2's stock bluetooth dbus config file will not work with kdebluetooth [17:29] that's why I gave him the one from -current. It's supposed to fix that issue :/ [17:29] thrice`: I did not mixed stuff :D [17:29] ok, sorry :) I've missed too much, I guess [17:30] thrice`: :D [17:30] thrice`: the problem he has is that it works for root, but not for a normal user [17:30] yeah, which is why I thought a weird dbus / bluez configuration or group hickup [17:31] joshyro: are you using the exact same config file I gave you? [17:31] pprkut: look this is the thread in linuxquestion and is the message that i get with kbluetooth http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/kde-bluetooth-dies-693167/ [17:32] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.17.32) left irc: "Leaving." [17:32] _dieter_ (n=dieter@92.116.65.56) left irc: "leaving" [17:32] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:33] joshyro: I'm afraid, you probably won't get much more information than there is already available in that thread [17:34] pprkut: yah! :( [17:34] VanRoy (n=kitsilan@mna75-2-82-67-196-165.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] joshyro: the thing is, if it works as root, it's already fixed. For some reason it's still not for that one user though [17:35] pprkut: Im using the config file that you gave me. But i didn't run it like root user. remember the message is the same and you tell me stop, start and restart :P [17:36] pprkut: thats rigth, my problem is why with normal user doesnt work :S [17:36] I'm lost, sorry :/ [17:37] pprkut: :) [17:39] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:41] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-215-169.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] wahooooo8 (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:43] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:43] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:47] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-129.dial.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:48] pprkut: what's mean policy user in config file? [17:49] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[18:11] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "Molon Labe" [18:12] exaltis (n=exaltis@athedsl-09472.home.otenet.gr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:12] tuxrules (n=raghu@ppp-69-219-140-159.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:13] hi guys :-) [18:13] hi [18:13] hi [18:13] macavity: evening. [18:13] i am bitching with the new X [18:13] hi everybody...using x86 -current happily. Want to thank Pat and the whole team. [18:14] eichi (n=eichi@p5B200A21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [18:14] after ive turned on KMS it stubbornly insist on 15bit colors :-/ [18:14] DoNoBaN10pi[BxgX (i=1000@77.211.222.80) joined ##slackware. [18:14] bad macavity ! [18:14] exa or uxa accel ? [18:14] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:14] uxa [18:14] it turns that on by itself when KMS is active [18:14] which chipset, 65 or 45 ? [18:14] had a small request not sure if it can be included before 13 [18:14] 45 [18:15] tuxrules: fix amarok? :P [18:15] DoNoBaN (i=1000@77.211.64.252) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:15] oh, 2.6.30 had some good fixes, but most for 965 [18:15] actually had to do with libgsf [18:15] thrice`: you had that problem too at some point? [18:16] thrice`: dmesg says "[drm] LVDS-8: set mode 1280x800 15" [18:16] the one is -current is coming with option --without-gio [18:16] thrice`: and no tweaking of xorg.conf seems to help [18:17] this actually prevents goffice (version 0.7.8) from building since it needs gsf-input-gio.h and gsf-output-gio.h [18:17] tuxrules: you sould probably mail Pat about it, including compelling resons to change it, and pointiers to documenting fact that --with-gio is ready for the general population [18:17] yo macavity [18:17] macavity, yeah, troubles with KMS [18:18] ok, i am still on .29.5 [18:18] pprkut: I dont know what to do :( [18:18] i would like to track -current [18:18] ... if possible [18:18] I should try .30+kms+xf86-video-intel-2.7.99, never tried the three at the same time [18:19] tuxrules, gio is quite recent and afaik, 12.2's gtk is too old for that (note the afaik) [18:19] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-140-53-18.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:19] and maybe that the build script hasn't been changed, that's it [18:19] i'd guess -current is nearing "done" [18:20] I would rather raise it here and let Robby or Eric look into it than bother Pat [18:20] macavity: not sure; since 2.6.30, KMS has been good here [18:20] tuxrules, have you tried it yourself ? anything else to change ? [18:20] my chipset suffered from tearing issues on 2.6.29.x, so I never bothered there [18:20] I tried it myself and nothing else to change...just removing --without-gio works [18:20] thrice`: roger.. will look at the changelog then [18:21] thrice`: did you do any magic with boot parameters and/or in xorg.conf? [18:21] thrice`: or do you run xorg.conf-less? [18:21] and that compiles goffice which is required for gnumeric [18:21] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:21] I *did* have a xorg.conf with 2.6.29.x, but only had a section to tell it to use UXA instead of exa. but with KMS, that's the default, so I run without one on 2.6.30 [18:22] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [18:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:22] ok, i will try that first then :-) [18:22] i just read the docs as if i had to run it on by default [18:22] .. KMS that is [18:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:23] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:23] it's off by default. I suspect you could load the intel_agp and i915 into the initrd, and load i915 form /etc/modprobe.d/i915 with a modeset option, but I never tried that [18:23] ok, here goes nothing [18:24] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left ##slackware. [18:24] thrice`: i just want UXA.. to heck with the rest.. i just want KDE effects :P [18:24] ok brb [18:24] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [18:24] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [18:25] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:26] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. 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[18:37] full duplex, or half duplex [18:38] ifconfig eth0 [18:39] gah, it seems that's not enough [18:39] yeah, its not... :( [18:39] dmesg | grep eth0 [18:41] mii-tool eth0 [18:41] works too :) [18:41] ethtool eth0 [18:42] Action: Camarade_Tux is getting really too tired right now ;p [18:42] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] I don't think mii-tool is able to detect 100Mbit connections [18:42] But ethtool is [18:43] mii-tool says eth0 failed operation not supported :P [18:43] try it as root [18:44] iam root [18:44] if it's not a mii adapter obv wont work [18:44] here it outputs "eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok" [18:44] ethtool eth0 | grep Speed [18:44] ethtool command not found [18:44] i am sparticus! [18:44] epaphus: not running Slackware then? [18:45] another imposter! [18:46] apt-get install slackware [18:49] Or just didnt do a full install.. [18:50] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:51] judging from the lack of response ;) [18:51] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [18:51] pprkut: you there? [18:52] i wonder how "Fake Steve Jobs" felt when he was found out [18:53] i didnt do the full install [18:53] ill install that.. thanks [18:55] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:55] /wind 4 [18:56] ^^ [18:57] pprkut: after a couple hours kbluetooth is working... [18:57] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [18:57] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:59] pprkut: was a problem with my config file. [19:02] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.12.109) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:02] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.23.27) joined ##slackware. [19:03] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.45.55) joined ##slackware. [19:04] tuxrules (n=raghu@ppp-69-219-140-159.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:04] pprkut: maybe the problem is 'cause my bluetooth is removable :D, and i've found a new config file. [19:04] pprkut: thanks a lot. regards from Can Cun Mexico. [19:06] joshyro (n=josh@187.153.73.108) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [19:09] you are in Can Cun? [19:09] i3lack0p (n=merlin@74-133-32-86.dhcp.insightbb.com) left irc: "User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby" [19:09] lucky you! [19:11] <|Slacker|> are sbo pkgs safe? [19:12] sure [19:12] <|Slacker|> :) [19:12] <|Slacker|> thanks [19:14] burgers turned out pretty good [19:14] how goes it [19:14] slackbuilds.org heck yeah they are safe, they are not packages, they only supply an easy and convienient way for you to build your own packages [19:15] <|Slacker|> I see [19:17] <|Slacker|> oh I didn't know sbo was from slackbuild project [19:17] the wife did not cook today, i ended up making bacon & eggs & toast for supper [19:18] hmm, sbo does not mean slackbuilds.org ? [19:18] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-81-109.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "que saco" [19:18] SlackBuilds.Org [19:18] i always though that is what sbo was [19:18] Yep. [19:19] whew! i thought i was losing it there [19:19] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:20] |Slacker|: dont do that to me! [19:20] <|Slacker|> do what? [19:21] read your previous comment, .< |Slacker|> oh I didn't know sbo was from slackbuild project [19:21] |Slacker|: the question of if SBo "packages" are safe comes down to: "do you trust us to do a proper job" and two: "do you trust your own machine" [19:22] <|Slacker|> BP{k}, oh..sorry but I got kinda worried since that talk about linuxpackges.net [19:22] totally different [19:22] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] firebird619 (n=fbird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [19:24] <|Slacker|> and also I'm pretty new to slackbuilds and haven't heard about sbo since some weeks ago [19:25] Pig_Pen: breakfast is great for supper, have had i that way many times [19:25] even the developers that work on slackware itself approve of slackbuilds.org [19:25] *i/it [19:25] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:26] it was tasty, and filled the belly good, besides the wife deserves to take a day off from the kitchen [19:26] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [19:26] |Slacker|: well the advantage with SBo is, that we only offer the build scripts. So you can check what each of them does/will do before you build them [19:26] <|Slacker|> I see [19:27] And since you build them locally (ie on your machine), you don't have worry about silly (read: unexpected) dependencies. [19:28] <|Slacker|> that's handy [19:29] SlackBuilds.Org [19:30] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:31] epaphus (n=unix3@201.199.41.166) left irc: "Leaving" [19:32] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:32] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-253.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [19:36] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[19:44] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:44] antler: this fortune fits you perfect. :P The only problem with being a man of leisure is that you can never stop and take a rest. [19:44] lol [19:44] Urchlay: weather nerds have a forumula for computing what the 'feels like' temp factoring in wind and humidity [19:45] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:46] firebird619: i like how flux default allows me to traverse workspaces with the mousewheel [19:46] it's a plus [19:46] gnubien: It's 77 here, humidity 89%, heat index also 77 [19:46] antler: yeah, it's very nice. :) [19:47] firebird619: heat index doesnt kick in till above 78 iirc [19:47] yeah [19:47] firebird619: you in northern latitudes? [19:48] antler: i jumped to fluxbox 3 years ago when xfce started getting bloated [19:48] I'm in Minnesota. :D [19:49] fluxbox is great. I've been messing with KDE 4.2.4 and it's great, but fluxbox is really nice. [19:49] I really like kde4's built-in effects though. :) [19:49] its nice to have choice of desktops [19:49] yeah, it sure is. [19:50] gnubien: yeah, i just recently installed it. liking it so far. [19:50] antler: you really should mark this on the calendar, I think this is some sort of record for you. :P [19:51] firebird619: lol just marked it. [19:51] haha [19:51] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [19:51] I'm still not able to enable kde4 effects in current with the latest nvidia drivers [19:51] that sucks. [19:53] i really like eye candy, and with kde's built-in effects there's absolutely no need (imo) for compiz-fusion (as good or as poor as it was) [19:55] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [19:55] firebird619: what version of slack are you on? [19:55] I'm on current [19:56] ah, good. then you're starting with a populated keys file in fluxbox [19:56] what does that mean? [19:56] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [19:57] before, .fluxbox/keys was empty, but now it includes some decent defaults [19:57] it's helpful for beginners [19:57] good starting point [19:57] jumperboy: kb shortcuts? [19:57] before long, you'll be zipping around flux like vim [19:57] yeah, that's one of the reasons i love fluxbox [19:58] oh cool i need to set mine up [19:59] i autohide the toolbar so my desktop is completely bare [19:59] antler: I made my own, it makes it really nice. For example, you can set shortcuts to adjust the volume. [19:59] and hide as many menubars in applications as i can [19:59] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:59] fluxbox is great for squeezing more screen real estate out of netbooks [19:59] _dTd_ (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:59] http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/en/newdoc.keybindings.php [20:00] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.43.24) joined ##slackware. [20:00] Hey nachox [20:00] and you can apply the same concepts to bigger screens [20:00] according to my calculations, auto hiding the menu bar increases cpu activity by .00568%. [20:00] hey guys, happy father's day [20:01] antler: You mean you actually took the time to calculate that? You what...weren't lazy for a few seconds? :P [20:01] nachox: How's it going? [20:01] when i use other dm/wm these days, i can't understand how i gave up like 10-20% of the screen to crap i don't need to see ALL THE TIME [20:01] fine, enjoying the last parts of my weekend, i dont want to go to work tomorrow... [20:01] firebird619 jumperboy : i kinda like spartan workspaces [20:02] even konsole you can strip down to the title bar and use keyboard shortcuts to navigate tabs [20:02] freack (n=frk@189.58.215.144.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:04] then i just use fbrun to launch programs (alt-f2 in the new keys file) [20:04] _dTd_ (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:04] _dTd_ (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:05] desktop real estate is not an issue for me [20:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) joined ##slackware. [20:06] firebird619: http://tinyurl.com/m322sy <-- dinner \o/ [20:06] yum [20:07] gimme [20:07] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-80-157.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:07] tronyx (i=tronyx@unaffiliated/tronyx) joined ##slackware. [20:08] Action: firebird619 drools [20:09] BP{k}: That looks great. [20:10] firebird619: didn't you say that you were a vegan? [20:10] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:10] BP{k}, so...uhh, where is it? i can't find it in my kitchen [20:11] tronyx (i=tronyx@unaffiliated/tronyx) left ##slackware. [20:11] firebird619 is from one of the planets orbiting the star Vega? [20:11] Azalyn_ (n=junon@modemcable003.2-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:11] antler: No, I've never said that. I'm not a vegan either. :P [20:11] that explains much... [20:11] Urchlay: crap, you found me. :P [20:11] don't you dare flashy-thingy me! [20:12] I won't. :P [20:12] how do i turn off the kde4 thing where it bring up all my old program when i log in [20:12] edman007: I am sure I posted it per snail by the way of kurdistan. it should be there soon-ish ;) [20:12] firebird619: i'm pretty sure i remember you saying, "hi, everyone. i'm firebird619 and i'm proud to be a vegan." [20:13] BP{k}, wha?! that will take all day! i want it now [20:13] he said "proud to be a vegetable" I thought [20:13] edman007: hehe. [20:13] _dTd_ (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:13] one of the Plant-Men of Vega IV [20:13] heheh [20:13] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [20:13] _dTd_ (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:14] antler: Well, that must have been an imposter, but I KNOW I heard you say: hi, everyone. i'm antler and i'm proud to be lazy. [20:14] well I'm too lazy to be proud... [20:14] lol [20:14] Action: Urchlay thinks about sacrificing a goat to the Apathy God, but decides "ahh, maybe later" [20:15] Urchlay: ah I see you are an apatheist? [20:15] I would be, but I just don't care enough to join the cult... [20:16] "Apatheist" might not be a bad name for an album, or a song [20:16] think I've found the name of my next band though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojibake [20:16] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:17] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [20:17] has anyone seen drillbit taylor [20:17] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Client Quit [20:17] is that a porno? [20:17] lol no [20:17] haha [20:17] "Apatheist; For when the question is no longer interesting, and the answer no longer matters." [20:17] it's that owen wilson movie [20:18] firebird619 Urchlay : hahah [20:18] does anyone elses kde4 reopen all programs when you login that were open when you logged out? [20:18] amazon10x: no [20:18] not mine anyway. [20:19] Urchlay, you rock freaks do those smash pit things wher people jump [20:19] amazon10x, thats session saving (thats what gnome called it) [20:19] when i log out i'll have like 3 terminals open and a firefox, and then when i log in it reopens all that crap [20:19] ahh, found it in the system settings [20:20] Azalyn (n=junon@modemcable003.2-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Connection timed out [20:20] thanks [20:20] :) [20:21] risperidon (n=risperid@189.115.207.6) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:22] BlakNinjaSlink (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) left irc: "adios amigos" [20:23] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:23] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [20:23] jeev: eh, I *wish* I could get that kinda response from a crowd these days [20:24] BP{k}: I'm known to describe myself as a "non-practicing atheist", when the subject of religion comes up and people won't take a hint to drop it... [20:24] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [20:28] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [20:29] hmm good whisky is good! [20:29] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:31] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:32] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:32] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [20:32] WillieWanka (n=alexei@adsl-190-43-11.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:38] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:39] what should i do to stress out my disks, i'm running mirror config.. earlier one failed but i'm not sure if it was the controller or not [20:40] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:40] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@200.92.46.186) joined ##slackware. [20:41] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [20:46] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:46] thrice`: thanks for the help :-) [20:46] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.79.193) joined ##slackware. [20:46] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] thrice`: .30 took care of it, and for the first time ever i am running this bucket with full aye candy *and* video working :-) [20:47] dios_mio (i=test@88.242.170.181) left irc: ":tiuQ" [20:47] hey macavity, how's it going? [20:47] firebird619: pretty damn good! :-) [20:48] good to hear. :) [20:49] i still have the vblank ghost in dmesg, and i suspect that is why opengl flickers a tiny bit, but i will adress this with the intel devs right away [20:50] _dTd_ (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:51] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.79.193) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:55] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.45.55) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:56] theres a ghost in the machine [20:58] rignes_ (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: "leaving" [20:58] I use xterm with ttf fonts. [20:58] and never looked back [21:01] I've been trying to troubleshoot this kde4 effects + nvidia issue for days now [21:02] has anyone else had this problem; -current, kde4 + nvidia driver will not allow me to enable kde effects [21:02] composite is enabled in xorg.conf and the nvidia driver is otherwise working fine [21:02] missyjane did have the nvidia/kde4 problem [21:02] She doesn't count [21:02] I fixed her issue. [21:02] antiwire: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log have to say? [21:02] haha [21:02] macavity: nothing [21:03] no information about this in xorg logs [21:03] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] when I try to enable kde4 effects, kde tells me that it failed and to check my settings but the same setup has worked before. [21:04] antiwire: in ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc set DisableChecks=true [21:04] and try again [21:04] testing [21:05] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:06] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:06] its good to know kde4 sucks beforehand so i dont waste my time trying to get it to work on my two desktops with nvidia graphics cards [21:07] totally fscked up kde [21:07] had to wait for the 10 sec timeout [21:07] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@bl8-111-98.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:07] kde4 works fine NukeDukem [21:07] it's the effects that don't [21:07] NukeDukem: kde4 works great here. [21:08] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@81.193.100.94) joined ##slackware. [21:08] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [21:09] NukeDukem: correction: the nvidia propietary binary blobs currently blows goat rectum... KDE works very nice and smooth here with a crappy Intel i945 graphics chip [21:09] with the full bangalore of bells and whistles that is [21:09] how many rods per hogshead do you get out of that intel graphics chip? [21:10] next to none [21:10] It worked before so I thought it was the latest nvidia driver but installing an older version didn't make effects work so I'm leaning toward xorg or kde4 at this point [21:10] ~100 FPS in 1280x800 glxgears [21:10] something changed and the last biggest change was xorg [21:11] antiwire: i bet its a kernel change that has upset it [21:11] I'll just wait for the next nvidia release [21:12] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:12] next time i build a box i will go for ATI HD43xx [21:12] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:13] or something similar [21:14] gbonvehi1 (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. 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[21:23] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*mernil*@*.priv.bahnhof.se' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:23] mernil kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Too cocky for our sensitive minds [21:24] wooj (n=wooj@unaffiliated/wooj) joined ##slackware. [21:26] This may be a very noobish question, but is slackware a good option for netbooks? I'm told its very un-bloated by default and that you basically install what you need (as opposed to getting gigs of stuff you never use) so I thought it might be a viable option for my netbook [21:26] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Client Quit [21:26] KillerV (i=1000@189037003055.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:27] i belive there are several people in here with slack on netbooks [21:27] So it plays well with low system resources? Awesome. [21:27] Thanks :) [21:28] alienBOB: has a netbook, if he is around he might have some input on the topic [21:29] allrighty. I'm probably not that patient, I'm downloading it now and am just gonna dive in. [21:30] thats the spirit [21:30] if you have a problem with it come back in here you can find some help or linuxquestions.org has a slackware section in the forums [21:30] you should apply that philosophy when crossing the street as well [21:31] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] antler, you are, of course, correct. So long as I'm crossing the street in a tank. [21:33] lol [21:34] hahah [21:35] WillieWanka (n=alexei@adsl-190-43-11.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:35] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-9.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] antler: he's got a good point there. :P [21:38] firebird619: does the channel allow vegans? :P [21:38] Well, you're still here, so...... [21:39] hehe [21:39] gotta make those monies [21:40] watched 'knowing' (nicolas cage) last night. interesting story idea. [21:41] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:42] Running on a netbook shouldn't be any different than any other computer, save for alternative install methods. [21:45] Nick change: blackhat -> yht|tugas_luar [21:47] ccfreak2k, I'm just going to use unetbootin to convert the ISO for my USB drive [21:48] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:48] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.43.24) left irc: "Leaving" [21:49] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [21:52] man.. KDE with effects is pretty nice [21:52] and useless [21:52] LF4 (n=LF4@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [21:52] that's why I always get back tp fvwm :p [21:53] not at all.. it was a real eye opener to my GF when she saw the "magic lamp" effect on minimize [21:53] but best of all.. i have translucent yakuake... then i can watch prшn while i idle on IRC [21:53] how much else can you ask for? ;-) [21:54] wow macavity haha [21:54] hahaha [21:54] y0 LF4 [21:54] macavity: I'm on flux right now, but kde4 + effects is great. [21:55] also i think the "cover switch" effect for alt-tab is pretty cool [21:55] hey firebird619 How are things going? [21:55] that's the one like cover flow in itunes and ipods, right? I can't remember which one that is, but that's the one I have. [21:55] LF4: going great, thanks. yourself? [21:56] ive never seen any i* hardware nor software in action, so i cant tell you [21:56] I think that is the cover one. [21:56] :P [21:56] I haven't ever seen any i* in action either. [21:56] it better than the "deck of cards" that vista uses [21:56] Ugh, isn't that horrible. [21:57] Unfortunately I have seen that in action. [21:57] firebird619: I'm doing well just been busy, bought a motorcycle last week. [21:57] LF4: nice. [21:57] at least with the cover switch you can see 3 windows in full at the same time [21:57] LF4: which one? [21:57] macavity: cover? you mean the one like how it rotates in front of you when you do the super+tab? [21:58] LF4: no, MC dork :P [21:58] macavity: Honda Shadow ACE 750 [21:58] NICE [21:58] i'm a big Honda fan myself [21:58] Yeah honda's are nice, I was looking at getting a CBR600RR but that will be at a later date. :) [21:59] does anyone did try new virtualbox 3 beta1? [21:59] LF4: oh, that, yes, the KDE effect called "cover switch" is for alt+tab [21:59] multicore feature will be cool [21:59] LF4: the RR lines are a little mean on the arms if you use them for anything else but +100km/h :P [22:00] Nick change: ClaudioM -> ClaudEVEoM [22:01] macavity: true haha the wind support is a big help. I have yet to ride my shadow on a road that is +70km/h [22:01] LF4: i would give my left testicle for a CBF1000 [22:01] lol [22:01] wow [22:02] LF4: http://www.visordown.com/review/images/products/fullsize/honda-cbf1000.jpg [22:02] you know you really want something if you're willing to give up 1, or even both, tarballs. [22:02] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:02] since the VFR750 that is hands down the best balance between touring and agressive driving [22:03] ... i just dont like the modern wind breakers :-/ [22:03] macavity: haha I was looking at a candy blue/yellow CBR1000 as well but I figured for my first street bike I probably should get something a little better. [22:04] i think you made an excelent choise [22:04] *choice [22:04] true I don't even have a windshild on my shadow it takes away the look in my mind. [22:04] nice handlability, but not something that will let you develop bad habits [22:05] Thanks, :) everyone I told said the same thing. [22:05] Yeah lol its funny how sport bikers are kinda alianated from tohers. [22:06] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:06] if you ever get to try one of the CR1000BRR FireBlade monsters, here is a word of advice: treat it like a kawa 1300 ninja :P [22:06] "tohers"? [22:06] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) joined ##slackware. [22:06] Action: macavity does not speak english natively [22:07] ah, tour'ers? [22:08] tohers = others [22:08] oh [22:08] Action: chopp wonders in, then quickly decides to run and puke [22:08] haha macavity sorry i tpyed fast tohers = others. :) [22:08] i can only speak english in the nude [22:08] y0 chopp [22:08] chopp: we love you too :P [22:08] oh really? So I take it you have ridden a CBR1000 before? [22:09] hey firebird619 :) [22:09] LF4: s/tpyed/typed/ man, you really do type fast. :P [22:09] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-9.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:09] hba (n=hba@189.188.140.249) joined ##slackware. [22:09] LF4: the regular CBR1000 differes *quite* a bit from the RR line [22:09] chopp: How's it going? [22:10] macavity: don't take it personal :P [22:10] yeah ready race I can imagine are tuned way different. [22:10] LF4: the clasic CBR1000 is still what you would, without being too heavily medicated, call a civilized bike [22:10] haha firebird619 aparently I can type today. :) [22:10] LF4: the RRs are *not* [22:10] firebird619: excellent, had a good day with my son [22:10] chopp: awesome [22:11] macavity: yeah :) hence I want to get an RR sooner or later. [22:11] later.. not sooner :P [22:11] you want to get a scooter? [22:11] firebird619: and got to gander at many hot babes at the pool at the same time. ;) [22:11] :O [22:12] haha yes thumbs I want a scooter... but I have to work my way up to scooters they scare me to much. Better to start out with a CBR1000RR ;) [22:13] lol [22:14] KyNDeR (n=kynder@201-67-105-248.bsaco701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:15] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-41-209.cl.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:16] exit [22:16] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:16] LF4: come back and tell me when you scape the foot rest at ~90km/h on the one you've got.. thats when you are prepared to *start saving up* for a 1000RR ;-) [22:17] *scrape [22:19] macavity: Already have. :) I'm not scared of leaning for turns. As much as people have said road riding is different form dirt. I pretty much ride my TTR-225 the same way. Yeah I'm pretty crazy and will take things to the extreams. :) [22:21] Sad thing is its been raining here so much I cant go out riding for fun. :( [22:21] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:22] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:23] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:23] grrr [22:23] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] switching to the linux console and back to X is still broken with DRI2 :-/ [22:24] allas.. i guess its time to revive gfx-test-builder.sh :P [22:25] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@200.92.46.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:26] Hello all! [22:26] hi [22:26] Got off student status for skydiving today! :D [22:27] booboo1a (n=booboo1d@pool-162-84-80-124.culp.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] Now i pay the low price of $23 a jump! [22:27] nice [22:27] Plus i don't have to have supervision anymore, although i will still be jumping with people i know because it's fun. [22:30] agentc0re: do you pack your own chute now? [22:30] agentc0re: congrats :) [22:30] agentc0re: awesome. [22:31] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:32] I did pack my own chute today, but couldn't jump it because the winds kicked up so much. [22:32] So some unlucky dude will jump it next week.. :P [22:33] lol [22:33] s/jump/die on/ [22:33] and if it doesnt work as expected, he can just email you with his complaints? :P [22:33] Kaapa: nah, they'll have their reserve :) [22:33] macavity: He sure can! lol [22:33] agentc0re: one jumps with 2 chutes? [22:33] antler: Yup, you always have a backup. [22:34] and if the backup fails? you fail? [22:34] :D [22:34] antler: You have your Main and your reserve. Your reserve will also open faster because it's packed by someone who is certified to pack it and they also deploy differently. [22:34] antler: Yup, the risk everyone takes. [22:35] i wonder what the liklihood is that the reserve fails [22:36] does anyone discuss slackware linux here? [22:36] antler: chances of your main failing a low unless you packed it bad (crossed lines over or had it flipped around itself somehow). Lots of things are actually flyable when you wouldn't have thought so. [22:36] or better: i wonder whether or not anyone's died from chutes failing to open [22:36] agentc0re: yeah [22:36] antler: Yeah, it happens. Mostly to experienced jumpers doing stupid things. [22:36] antler: You could open your reserve at 400ft and still have enough time. [22:37] Not that you'll ever want to do that. [22:37] any of you skydivers do base jumping? [22:37] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:37] I mean, it's only your life you are gambling with.. [22:37] agentc0re: i *heard* that some chutes will auto open -- something about being hooked up to something? is that true? [22:37] NukeDukem: I would never do that. [22:38] antler: Yup, thats true. it's a AAD. [22:38] agentc0re: AAD? [22:38] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:39] automatic activation device [22:39] antler: ^^^ [22:39] firebird619: heh i thought that would've been to simple to be right :P [22:39] http://www.cypres-usa.com/aad01a.htm [22:39] antler: lol [22:41] agentc0re: "AADs can theoretically also mis-fire, causing severe injury or death, rather than preventing it." <---- nice [22:42] antler: nothing is fail-safe. :D [22:42] firebird619: well, not jumping from an airplane will increase your chances of surviving, though. [22:42] haha [22:42] you might die in any case, but that's something else [22:42] antler: Yeah there's always that fine print. Like your coffee, if you spill it on you it can cause severe burns... But you still drink it right? [22:43] until you go outside and get hit by a car. :P [22:43] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [22:43] hi ok.. so ill try again [22:43] agentc0re: definitely. [22:43] missyjane: wait, not yet... [22:43] Action: agentc0re farts [22:43] is there another guide on upgrading packages? all i get from google is upgrade.txt which tells you how to upgrade version to version [22:43] missyjane: okay now. [22:43] ;) [22:43] missyjane: upgrade certain packages and not others? [22:44] agentc0re: that reminds me of that lawsuit that time against McDonalds because there was no Caution: This is hot, warnings. [22:44] missyjane: why do you insist on punishing yourself with your computer? [22:44] firebird619: Thats exactly why i thought of it actually. [22:44] NukeDukem: nah, she's not punishing herself, she's punishing the computer. :P [22:44] missyjane: /topic [22:45] firebird619: yeah, i heard about that hahah the person won, too, if i remember right [22:45] agentc0re: that was so ridiculous, and that person ended up getting money. [22:45] missyjane, $ less /sbin/upgradepkg [22:45] How stupid do you have to be to think that coffee isn't going to be hot. [22:45] when it has ice cubes floating in it [22:45] firebird619: yeah, the person was stupid enough to get free money from a business giant [22:46] NukeDukem: I was just gonna say that, now that have iced coffee for crying out loud. [22:46] I suppose that will be the next lawsuit, there's no "Caution: This is cold" warnings. [22:46] i like iced coffee [22:46] that mcdonalds suit? [22:46] me too [22:46] AHHH, I spilt an ice cube down my shirt, LAWSUIT, LAWSUIT. :P [22:47] Nick change: ClaudEVEoM -> ClaudioM [22:47] I don't like/drink coffee. :) [22:47] sue for infinity billion dollars [22:50] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-18-58.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:51] JasonosaJ (n=jason@pool-72-69-223-178.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:53] alpha213 (n=alpha@cpe-72-183-217-40.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:53] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:53] Heretic!!!! You don't like coffee firebird619?? Are you a witch? Get the scale and duck out and weigh him!! [22:54] Action: agentc0re weighs firebird619 against the duck [22:54] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:54] eichi_ (n=eichi@p5B2018C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [22:54] ha [22:54] alpha213 (n=alpha@cpe-72-183-217-40.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:54] haha [22:54] He's a witch!! [22:54] agentc0re: No, I don't. [22:54] Action: firebird619 puts a spell on agentc0re [22:54] That just doesn't sound right.... [22:55] haha [22:55] http://www.pcworld.com/printable/article/id,147939/printable.html <---Inside of a Model M keyboard. [22:55] I feel like i have just been molested through witchcraft. :P [22:55] hahahaha [22:56] alpha213 (n=alpha@cpe-72-183-217-40.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:57] E4L2 in atomic edition is out of control [22:57] E4L1 was cool but this is L2 is crazy. those two tank things [22:58] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:58] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:01] antler, :| ok sounds fair enough; NukeDukem lol cause i wanna learn [23:03] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:03] hmm, anyone know how to limit the memory that an application can use? i want it to crash it it uses more than 2G [23:03] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-134-236.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:03] ulimit looks like what i want, but does not seem to have any effect [23:04] edman007: may have to stop and then restart the aplication [23:04] i am... [23:05] i did `ulimit -m 20`, which should be 20kb (impossibly small), and this app has no problem getting a few hundred MB according to top [23:05] Hey Dominian [23:05] maybe applying it incorrectly [23:05] hey firebird619 [23:05] Dominian, well do you know how? the man page is not really helping much :/ [23:05] hrm [23:06] Does the aplication run as a specific user? [23:06] me.. [23:06] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:06] btw.. look at man bsah [23:06] its just something i'm testing, and its a bit memory hungry so i want it to die before OOM comes along [23:06] bash and search for ulimit [23:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:07] Dominian, thats what i did, and it does not offer much, just says it should be in kB and -m is max memory... [23:07] ah [23:08] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:08] oh.. no wonder slackpkg messed up my system [23:09] What is a good video capture/editing program? [23:09] avidemux is good [23:09] Also there's kino [23:09] missyjane: actually. slackpkg doesn't mess up anything... its the user [23:10] good call Dominian [23:10] lol [23:10] no.. [23:10] its that slackpkg doesnt have dependency check [23:10] eichi (n=eichi@p5B200A21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [23:10] thanks firebird619 I'll check both out and see which would fit better :) [23:10] i decided to do some research on package management after reading more about kernel yesterday [23:10] missyjane: why would it? [23:10] that's a feature, not a negative point. [23:11] LF4: yw [23:11] :| [23:11] im gonna try lfs again [23:12] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:13] missyjane: you can manage slackware, what makes you think you can do lfs? [23:13] /s/can/cant [23:13] NukeDukem, dunno, i did make a linux from lfs before, but then i dont remember what i did after that [23:13] i can learn :D i still remember something about toolchains [23:14] edman007: did you start the app in the exact same shell as the one you do the ulimit -m 20, didnt you? try ulimit -Hm 20 to set the hard limit [23:14] which is one of the main idea of lfs, to teach about the stuff that makes up the rest of linux [23:14] higuita: he left [23:14] [22:11] <-- edman007 has left this server (Remote closed the connection). [23:14] damn... too slow :) [23:14] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@200.92.46.186) joined ##slackware. [23:14] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:14] lol [23:14] Probably because his irc client was using more than 20kb of memory :D [23:14] hehe [23:14] thanks firebird619 :) [23:15] haha [23:15] Action: Dominian got his VM mirror script working [23:15] although... still ironing out the exclude/include stuff.. but it appears to have no real negative effects.. yet [23:15] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [23:15] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:15] edman007: [22:13] edman007: did you start the app in the exact same shell as the one you do the ulimit -m 20, didnt you? try ulimit -Hm 20 to set the hard limit [23:15] hehehe [23:16] again, thanks firebird619 :) [23:16] yw [23:16] firebird619, higuita yup [23:16] i just rebooted, OOM really kills my system [23:17] set the hard limit, the app might have a script that tries to change its limit also, the hard limit would block that [23:17] it has nothing, i wrote it, it sucks memory, i'm tuning it, and i want OOM off my ass [23:17] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:18] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-135-159.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [23:19] lol [23:19] you probably have a memory leak... [23:19] delt0r (n=delt0r@62-47-134-236.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:19] run valgrind on it [23:19] delt0r (n=delt0r@62-47-135-159.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [23:20] higuita, nah, not memory leak..i'm playing around with link lists that are a few million items long [23:20] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-19-242.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:20] also try to play with the the -v and -d (u)limits [23:20] edman007: perl? [23:22] higuita, C, i'm writing something that fills the screen with 1pixle=one item, and then make it act like bacteria so i can watch it grow...well..when you have 200 items per pixle..and its all stored in a linked list and thus not exactly memory efficient, well it sucks memory [23:23] alpha213 (n=alpha@cpe-72-183-217-40.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:23] its starting to look cool...i can see some spots start to grow...and then OOM kills it [23:23] ahh... ok, you are really playing! :) [23:24] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*mernil*@*.priv.bahnhof.se expired. [23:24] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*mernil*@*.priv.bahnhof.se' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:24] yea [23:24] hrm.. why did qt get installed on an X-less/KDE-less system... [23:24] /c/c [23:24] try to limit the virtual memory ( -v) and if it fails... add more swap for a few minutes/hours [23:24] bah [23:24] Dominian: qt is in L [23:25] rworkman: well, wouldn't you think that if KDE/X was disabled.. that qt would be? not that it matters.. easily removed. [23:25] add a file as swap... that would solve the OOM problem [23:26] higuita, hmm, -v works :) [23:26] Dominian: remember... slackware, no dependency check! :) qt is a lib, it might be usefull for some app [23:27] the -m was resident memory, so it was sending data to swap... virtual memory is resident+swap(+shared IIRC) [23:27] well time to sleep [23:28] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:28] hba (n=hba@189.188.140.249) left irc: "Leaving" [23:28] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [23:28] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-62-131.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] higuita: not in an X-less world [23:30] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-43-166.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [23:30] Dominian: remote X?! :) [23:30] we all live in a x-less submarine ... [23:30] LOL [23:31] i aced my first try at grilling fresh salmon steaks ! they were sooooo good. =) [23:32] y0 dtanner, how's it going? [23:32] ahh man that sounds good, it is hard to beat fresh salmon [23:32] dtanner: awesome :) [23:32] yeah here is exactly how i did it lemme get the link [23:32] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHwi_l4sg3o [23:32] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.19.202) left irc: "leaving" [23:33] i made my own marinade from another link i found and used that links method of grilling and sliding the skin off perfectly at the end [23:33] Dominian: i can point to quite a handfull of thinks in l/ that should not get installed in an X less setup [23:33] mmmmmm raw salmon [23:34] antler: geif nao! :P [23:34] WillieWanka1 (n=alexei@adsl-190-41-96.asm.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [23:34] macavity: you no like raw salmon? [23:34] hey firebird619. its going good, thanks. yourself? [23:34] going great, thanks. :) [23:34] antler: yes, misa like, i can haz? [23:34] raw salmon only when I saw it get caught or caught it myself [23:35] macavity: hahah [23:35] twolf: i concur :P [23:35] yeah [23:35] macavity: well maybe its time to make a list [23:35] Dominian: are you using framebuffer apps instead, or are you text-only? [23:35] my dad took me on a trip to Alaska and we caught a bunch of salmon, those fish are fun to catch [23:36] twolf: i bet that was a blast. [23:36] indeed [23:36] good eatin' , fresh catch like that , never froezen. [23:36] i bought mine fresh and never frozen from the market. they had some really nice ones today. [23:37] lol.. i read that as "fresh cat like that", and though "ok, how did we go from delicius to gross so fast?" [23:37] it is tough to get fresh fish like that here in Kansas, I fish a lot though for catfish and crapie and fish like that so we eat pretty good [23:37] over 1" thick each side, some were prolly a good 1-1/2" [23:38] crapie has really good very white meat [23:38] excellent taste [23:38] my family likes getting live Tilapia and steaming it [23:38] we call them "white perch" also, same thing [23:38] mmm talapia is good, we can get that fresh here all the time also [23:38] i have never had it steamed [23:39] the crappie are so heavily targeted in this area it is difficult to find any of size anymore [23:39] night all [23:39] usually baked or grilled ( blackened) [23:39] night hitest [23:39] night hitest [23:39] night firebird619, dtanner:) [23:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:39] twolf: i caught a crappie that almost 3 pounds a few years back [23:39] dtanner: nice! [23:40] that is big for a fresh water crappie [23:40] i fileted him [23:40] crap-pie?!? [23:40] yeah it is, I think the state record here is 2.5lbs [23:40] it is around 5 pounds here [23:40] the state record that is [23:40] I feel lucky to get them at 1lb [23:40] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:41] one thing about the south , we have the premier fresh water game fishing [23:41] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:41] a large mouth bass worth mounting is considered by most to be 10 pounds plus [23:41] I used a small crappie as bait last weekend and caught a 30lb flathead, I let her go though, just for sport there [23:42] sweet [23:42] i have never been salt water fishing. i live so close to the gulf i should go. [23:43] we eat a lot of channel catfish in the 2-4lb range, when they get much bigger they start to taste fishy [23:43] channel cat are good. so are blue cat. [23:44] yup, 2- 4 pounders are just right [23:44] the record for catfish here is something crazy over 100 pounds [23:44] the blues are real fun to catch, I helped my buddy net one that had to be over 75lbs [23:44] nice [23:45] the Kansas River holds some nice ones [23:45] that must have been blast fighting him [23:45] he took the boat on a ride for over 30min [23:45] we have the red river and the colorado here [23:46] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-80-157.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [23:46] JasonosaJ (n=jason@pool-72-69-223-178.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:46] my favorite type of fishing ( fresh water of course ) is large mouth bass fishing [23:47] I love bass fishing too, but they don't really thrive here like they do in the south, we got into some real nice ones in southern Missouri when I was a kid though [23:47] someone told me that if i ever went salt water fishing for "red fish" that i would get ghooked because they are so fun to catch. [23:47] and red fish are good eatin' too [23:47] yeah if I lived near the ocean I would have a hard time keeping a job [23:47] a friend of mine goes salt water fishing all the time and brings over fresh red fish [23:48] I would have to claim disabilty, I am disabled in that I cant resist the urge to fish! [23:48] he taught me how to cook them a certain way... filet them , then soak them in pure buttermilk before cooking. the buttermilk takes any gamey fishy taste out [23:49] sweet buttermilk, adds to the flavor too. [23:49] nice, that is how we do fried chicken here too [23:50] Lexus (n=alexey@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [23:50] hi all:) [23:50] hi [23:50] fish is so good for you too. i owuld eat fish everyday if i could have fresh all the time. [23:50] yo Lexus [23:50] crashx1 (n=relaxed@h174.174.90.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Success [23:50] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] the salmon is high in omega-3 and fatty acids with the good cholesterol [23:51] t4k3r0n_ (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) joined ##slackware. [23:51] aloha [23:51] yeah, I wish I had access to it more often, in the winter we have a lake that is stocked with rainbow trout, so that is the closest I get most of the time [23:52] crashx- (n=relaxed@h216.192.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] it is really good smoked but not as good as salmon [23:52] i have had trout only a couple of times. never fresh though. [23:52] well, never frozen fresh that is [23:53] booboo1a (n=booboo1d@pool-162-84-80-124.culp.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:53] i like to go bass fishing, catch some nice ones, come straight home and clean them while they are still flippin' and cook them right away [23:54] i want a boat [23:54] bad [23:54] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Client exiting" [23:54] i will have to wait until my bike is paid for [23:54] then comes a boat [23:55] no more waiting for someone with boat to invit me. go when i want. [23:55] i want a nice bass/ski rig [23:56] is not possible to compile zsnes under slackware64? [23:56] I have a 16ft flat bottom with a 10hp motor that is good for the river but it sucks on the lakes where I really want to fish, the waves kill you in it [23:57] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:57] better thatn what i have. gets you on the water [23:57] my dad has a pontoon that is great fun [23:59] slKIvs (n=ivan@158.117.79.69.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Mon Jun 22 2009