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[00:20] will i have any issues on slackware 12.2 and raid? i plan on replacing my non-raided 3 disk file server with a 2 disk raid 1 [00:21] mdeanda: I have had no problems with raid and 12.2 [00:21] i guess my real question is.. will installation give me problems? or do i have to build a custom kernel [00:22] mdeanda: if you are using the stock smp kernel, raid should already be built in [00:22] raid support even* [00:22] sweet. [00:22] thanks frullet. [00:22] no worries [00:23] so to do so, does this seem like the correct steps to take: remove all old hd's from system, install 2 new ones.. boot, during boot hit bios config key, turn on raid, reboot, install slackware? [00:25] nathanbw (n=nathan@67-60-226-125.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] mdeanda: Yes, you shouldnt have any troubles [00:27] does anyone know of a slackbuild for jython? [00:29] frullet: so if i change the setting in the bios, to the kernel it'll appear as a raid device right. so md or whatever... what about knowing of disk problems? [00:30] frullet: i'm not jsut randomly asking questions. i'm also reading some raid doc at the same time [00:35] mdeanda: Ive have only setup software raids myself, as for the kernel automagically detecting the raid at boot im not sure, you could try mdadm --detail /dev/md0 to see if its running once slackware has been installed [00:35] mdeanda: automagically detecting bios-raid at boot* [00:36] ic. so the doc im reading doesn't say if its sw raid but i see this line: mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 [00:36] and that line looks like its sw based to me. [00:36] mdeanda: Yes, mdadm is used for creating software based raids [00:37] i guess given that my server's motherboard is a pretty cheap miniitx board, the raid hardware may be flaky right. would you recommend i use sw raid instead? [00:37] evenin all. [00:38] mdeanda: just give the bios-raid a go, if it fails, then just use mdadm to setup software raid [00:40] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [00:40] acidchild, edman007 and the rest of you lot, http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6875/jessesiraoliver.jpg time for me to sleep now but theres another photo of the baby [00:40] .. If your bios-raid is a fake raid, don't use it. Use mdadm. [00:41] morning agentc0re [00:41] agentc0re: is there a way to tell? [00:41] nix_chix, you cannot sleep now! [00:41] edman007, i'm tired haha [00:41] nix_chix, you look like a zombie, bad red eye... [00:41] and did you check for head crab infection? [00:42] gimp it [00:42] i'm lazy [00:42] mdeanda: Is it an on board raid? [00:42] lol [00:42] agentc0re: yeah. [00:42] mdeanda: It's a fakeraid. [00:42] nix_chix, so what is his name? [00:42] oliver lee [00:42] ohh, nice [00:43] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:43] nix_chix: did you have a quick or long labor nix_chix? [00:43] hey guys, i've default slack install and am trying to allow anonymous ftp with upload access to incoming [00:43] ah. i also have a cheap pci-sata board with raid on it: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3114 [SATALink/SATARaid] will this do a better job? [00:43] lucasagomes (n=lucasgom@189-47-247-236.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [00:43] agentc0re way quick. water actually broke on wed when i was just atalking to you guys. well shortly after bf got home. right on the rug [00:43] and he was born 3hrs later if that [00:44] only took 30minutes to push that football out [00:44] mdeanda: If you use fakeraid and the onboard raid controller dies, you're screwed unless you get that same controller. using mdadm or lvm you can upgrade, change and move your hd's to another pc and still be able to access your data. [00:44] didnt even have time for epidural drugs stuff it was au natural [00:44] nix_chix: NICE! that's lucky, good for you though that you didn't have to sit there in pain for hours and hours. [00:44] agentc0re: k. i'm convinced [00:45] i have the 'upload /home/ftp /incoming yes root daemon 0660 dirs' in my /etc/ftpaccess file however it won't let me upload 'Permission denied on server. (Upload)' [00:45] any ideas? [00:45] nix_chix: congratulations on the football (baby i assume) [00:45] rofl yeah, agentc0re if i had to sit there any longer i would have killed some one. 7lbs 19inches long just right [00:47] anyone setup an anonymous ftp ? [00:48] agentc0re: so if i just have a raid 1, i don't need lvm right? i've never used it before [00:48] mdeanda: You could use either to mirror. [00:48] probably best to use mdadm for that though. [00:49] phrag: did you remove the ftp user from /etc/ftpusers [00:50] agentc0re: yes i did.. can login ok, just not upload [00:50] i've tried everything i can think of [00:51] does world have read? [00:51] gm152_ (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:51] yes, even set world rw just to test [00:52] (this is a lab box, security not an issue right now) [00:52] Hrmm.. [00:53] Action: edman007 roots phrag [00:53] Randuni (n=Randune@CPE002129686737-CM001bd7a862f2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:53] hi all [00:53] phrag: which ftp server? [00:53] I have a question [00:54] I had a wireless nic and an onboard nic..the wireless nic was named eth0 and the onboard eth1, I've removed the wireless NIC eth0, but the onboard nic still remains eth1, anyone know how to fix this? [00:54] phrag: Might need to restart the inetd daemon [00:54] Randuni: likely a udev rule created initialy [00:54] hmmm... [00:54] k [00:54] andarius: wuftpd (the vulnerable version) [00:55] agentc0re: yes, i do that with every change [00:55] I'll see what I can find [00:55] thx [00:55] ohh, i have not dealt with that thing in a while. sorry :( [00:55] http://phra.gs/ftpaccess [00:55] phrag: and you've edited /etc/proftpd.conf to your needs? [00:55] it's wu-ftpd [00:55] phrag: I've never configured one myself, so i'm kind of guessing here myself as i read long. [00:56] Randuni: when udev comes up things are detected and rules created. this is done so hardware does not move around on you like it used to. you will have to remove the rule and/or edit it by hand [00:57] Randuni: look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [00:57] hmm, it does not seem to be taking my settings from ftpaccess, as it should restrict access to everything but pub and incoming, however i can list all the other dirs in /home/ftp [00:58] back to the drawing board =P [00:59] phrag: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/wuftp.htm [01:01] andarius..that fixed it..thanks [01:03] Apparently fglrx has buildpkg support for Slackware. Dunno how old it targets for, though. [01:03] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:03] Anyone know why when i plug in a usb device(ipod, thumbdrive, camera etc) why it opens up two windows for me of the newly found device? I'm using xfce. [01:07] Randuni: yw [01:07] nix_chix (n=misspwn@67-54-164-2.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:08] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:09] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [01:12] SmallBaggyBungal (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [01:16] SlackLnx (n=Linux@85.139.11.109) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:20] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [01:21] Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) Server at slackware.cs.utah.edu Port 80 [01:21] o.0 [01:21] giuppy (n=giuppy@host226-130-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: SendQ exceeded [01:22] do you live in utah phrag? [01:22] agentc0re: thanks agentc0re.. i'm tearing my hair out right now... proftpd handles anon uploads fine, seems wuftpd is weird [01:22] no i don't, random mirror [01:26] Randuni (n=Randune@CPE002129686737-CM001bd7a862f2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:29] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-55-215.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:35] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-70-234.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:35] utah.edu is just full of fail...I see they have a linuxpackages repo too. :O [01:37] wow... That they are. I should go over and talk to them. [01:38] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:38] right i give up for tonight [01:38] night guys o/ [01:38] nite. [01:39] give them one upside the hairdo from me. ;) [01:40] heh. [01:45] anyone know how to select the signing key? using gpg? 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[02:03] Hey I'm doing some research on offering support for linux if anyone has a few seconds could you please take this survey http://www.theofficeoutletonline.com/survey.html [02:04] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:09] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [02:12] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:13] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:22] nisink: some questions are too narrow in scope, while some are illogical. e.g., are all linux distros based on either debian or red hat? if i'm currently using linux, then would i be more inclined to use linux if support were offered at a reasonable price? huh? [02:22] I'll add a general Linux option [02:23] and i'll clarify that question [02:23] thanks for your suggestions [02:23] matt0 (n=matt0@CPE-60-226-3-65.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:23] nisink: http://futurist.se/gldt/gldt93.png [02:26] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.57) left irc: "Leaving." [02:26] dood! [02:26] i walked out on a frozen river today [02:26] that's not something i get to do in so cal [02:27] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:27] scottsd (n=schwepps@adsl-75-20-206-113.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:27] Anyone know if the BSG tonight was 2hours long? [02:27] when you set a partition type to "Linux Raid Autodetect" (fd) in fdisk, what exactly is autodetected, and when? [02:28] scottsd: it means that the kernel will see that and know what to do with it [02:28] matt0 (n=matt0@CPE-60-226-3-65.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [02:28] scottsd: it is autodetected when the kernel is executed [02:29] but I have regular linux partitions and I can create ararys with mdadm just fine... [02:29] scottsd: and you are booting off of these arrays? [02:29] no [02:29] then you don't need to worry about it [02:29] so the kernel can tell which arrays belong to which with the 'fd' type? [02:30] it's not just the fd type [02:30] the kernel uses metadata to detect arrays to [02:30] too* [02:30] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [02:31] Nick change: impulse -> impy_ [02:34] brightwebworks (n=brightwe@216.189.209.126) left irc: "Leaving" [02:35] nisink: from what i gather, you're trying to answer the following questions: how much money would an inexperienced linux user pay for linux technical support? and would other os users be more inclined to use linux if technical support was offered at a reasonable price? <----- if you bear these questions in mind, your survey should make more sense on the whole (just my opinion :) [02:37] v4nelle (n=van@adsl134-146.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:37] Wescotte, 2:11 according to my myth box [02:38] gbs (n=gbs@201008197006.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [02:38] home users don't pay for tech support [02:38] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:38] scottsd, yes they do, but they don't know it [02:38] does slackware 12.2 comes with any dvd recorder utility? [02:38] and BSG has to one of the few scifi shows i don't like [02:38] home users certainly can pay for tech support too [02:38] growisofs [02:39] cheaper to buy a new computer [02:39] scottsd, which includes tech support... [02:39] edman007, if you consider dell technical support 'supportive' [02:39] Sharidog (n=i00nsu@a81-84-71-245.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [02:39] i never said its good, but they do pay for it [02:39] gbs: the base tools are cdrecord and growisofs. there is also k3b [02:39] hello [02:40] antler: those are exactly the answers i seek [02:40] Action: edman007 waves [02:40] nullboy, how to use cdrecord to burn a image.iso ? [02:40] man cdrecord [02:40] gbs: ... [02:40] gbs: copy that exact line you asked me and paste it into google [02:40] edman007: mythtv compiled fine for you? anything special you needed to do? i'm getting errors related to ffmpeg [02:41] thank ya [02:41] antler, ffmpeg has been (for the longest time) an app with an API in constant flux [02:41] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:42] SmallBaggyBungal (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [02:42] if you want to compile something against it you have to get a cvs checkout near the developers release that coded that release of whatever (in this case myth) [02:42] oh [02:42] Nick change: impy_ -> impulse [02:43] antler, in my case, mythtv-0.21-17743 works with ffmpeg-20081018 [02:43] hmm, i labled that wrong [02:43] wait, no... [02:43] thats right [02:44] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [02:44] Action: antler shakes edman007 the way that babysitter shook that baby [02:44] to checkout that revision of ffmpeg if that is what you are compiling for mythtv (and that is the mythtv from the latest patched release at the time, from svn) [02:44] antler: Ahh... I think that was already done to him back in his babysitter days. :P [02:45] what did i do?!? [02:45] he's still talking, shake him some more [02:45] Nothing but yet everything. ;) [02:45] anyways, with ffmpeg, never expect everything to compile against the ffmpeg you picked, sometimes its useful to ask developers what revesion they are using [02:45] Action: edman007 slaps nullboy [02:45] SADS, Shaken Adult Death Syndrome. [02:46] i've had mayhem with ffmpeg as well as mplayer [02:46] same sort of issues [02:46] nullboy, written by the same people... [02:46] yep [02:46] edman007: ok, because the version of ffmpeg that's on my system now is preventing mythtv (sbo) from compiling [02:47] antler, yea.. [02:47] though IIRC for me i had to grab the latest from the release branch [02:47] for mythtv [02:47] svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-21-fixes/ [02:47] thats the latest release, use that [02:48] ok, i'll try that [02:48] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [02:48] and backdate ffmpeg if you have to [02:48] i'll try with the one that [02:49] 's installed now ... maybe i'll get llucky [02:49] but yeah i'll look at other versions if this one is still causing problems with the latest mythtv [02:50] P4C0 (n=paco@190.141.75.90) joined ##slackware. [02:50] gbs (n=gbs@201008197006.user.veloxzone.com.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:51] lowkyalur (n=low@88.70.23.55) joined ##slackware. [02:52] nathanbw (n=nathan@67-60-226-125.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:52] nullboy: to become a canuck you have to play hockey on that river in your underwear whilst drinking a molson canadian beer. eh! [02:53] lmao [02:53] i AM. [02:54] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:54] running? [02:54] always leaving when it gets good huh? [02:55] mercfate (n=fate@201-75-74-122-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [02:55] impulse (n=impulse@24-116-157-169.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:56] and compile mythtv with the other hand. [02:57] krushov cya [02:57] mercfate (n=fate@201-75-74-122-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [02:57] hmm, that was interesting [03:01] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: "leaving" [03:03] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.49.156) left irc: "Leaving" [03:04] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) joined ##slackware. [03:04] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:04] chopp: i'm compiling it now up north, where the winters are long and there is much work to be done :P [03:06] question is, is it compiling? [03:07] P4C0 (n=paco@190.141.75.90) left irc: "Leaving" [03:07] nisink (n=nisink@Bowe-07-150.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [03:08] chopp: it seems to be, though i'm expecting the anticlimax any moment now :( [03:09] edman007: thanks [03:09] So...technically [03:09] I can buy a PS3 [03:09] and use it as a linux desktop? [03:09] o_o [03:10] yeah but they lock the graphics chip so it's semi worthless unless your running like folding at home or something [03:11] although I'm sure it's only a matter of time before somebody finds a way around that.. Surprised it hasn't happened yet though [03:11] because...the price makes it attractive [03:11] ;) [03:11] and my little brother's been bugging me about getting a ps3 [03:13] What would you do with it even if it was unlocked? It's not like nVidia make a Cell Linux driver available for it... [03:13] redtricycle: you wont use it as a desktop. its how i convinced myself to buy it though [03:14] SmallBaggyBungal (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [03:15] The PS3 is capable of some pretty impressive stuff, it's just a shame it'll never see even a fraction of what it's capable of utilised in any meaningful way :/ [03:23] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[04:49] hey all [04:50] Nick change: masterx831_ -> MasterX831 [04:50] hey [04:50] ppl, i run xargs comand and i got this error : xargs: xargs.c:445: main: Assertion `bc_ctl.arg_max <= (131072-2048)' failed. [04:50] vatgas, do you use xine [04:51] Sharidog, its a bug [04:52] got to edit that script [04:52] and i dont know how too [04:52] Sharidog, you might be able to recompile it without debugging (which should remove the check), but then it will probably just crash [04:52] MasterX831: nop [04:52] MasterX831: no [04:53] hm.. so when a slackbuild need to use xargs i just # comend the line an is ok ? [04:54] i hate packages [04:54] install everything through source [04:55] i always have trouble when i install through packages [04:56] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-023-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [04:56] libdvdread: blah i need to install this on xine in order to watch dvd oh well [04:57] miltux (n=miltux@ppp84-62.adsl.forthnet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [04:59] KyNs (n=JRosy@77.246.72.85) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:00] Sharidog, no [05:00] its a bug in the xargs program [05:00] ...probably [05:00] vatgas (n=val@123.145.77.122) left ##slackware. [05:01] KyNs (n=JRosy@77.246.72.85) joined ##slackware. [05:01] basically it means that the program put a line of code in that states that `bc_ctl.arg_max <= (131072-2048)` should be true, it was false, and thus the program exited because the programmer expected that case to cause a problem [05:01] what exactly are you trying to do anyways> [05:02] libnet.Slackbuild .. just that.. and i did build it cuse i did comment the line in libnet.Slackbuild file [05:03] if i don't i can't [05:03] KyNs (n=JRosy@77.246.72.85) left irc: Success [05:03] pastebin the script [05:03] my guess right now is that you have too many files that you tried to pass to xargs [05:03] but that should not happen in a slackbuild... [05:04] the libnet.Slackbuild or the xargs.c? [05:04] protei (n=protei@129.as-24.nienschanz.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:04] edman007: actually. If he just runs "xargs" with no arguments, he gets that... [05:05] iap [05:06] so from that point of view is not a slackbuild script problem [05:06] how do i make raid arrays in mdadm.conf to be read and assembled at boot? [05:07] edman007: we went thru this in #slackbuilds, I sent him back in here [05:07] ....thats wrong... [05:07] hoping someone other than me could help him, since I'm about to be asleep [05:07] xargs with no args should wait for stdin [05:07] well yes [05:08] Sharidog, grep xargs /var/log/packages/* [05:08] his /usr/bin/xargs has the same md5sum as the one from my 12.2 box (which works fine) [05:08] oh? [05:08] 04:49 a15308ac4b78b0d17708320ceb7c5b0e /usr/bin/xargs [05:09] which is the same hash as I got on my 12.2 laptop [05:09] Sharidog, pastebin the output of these commands, 'alias', 'env' [05:12] edman007: http://pastebin.com/m35db2368 [05:14] Sharidog, xargs bug with newer kernels -> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439168 [05:16] Sharidog, what version of glibc are you running? [05:17] hmm.. ahh that can be the problem.. because when i instll this both glibc give me an error, and i did install new from current, as Urchlay is a wrong thing to do [05:18] glibc-2.9-i486-1 and glibc-i18n-2.9-i486-1 [05:19] yea, thats probably too new [05:19] because i got 2.7 over here.. [05:19] so i should remove glibc and install from 12.2 slackware source right? [05:21] "Urchlay is a wrong thing to do"? [05:21] unfortunately too many girls agree with you... [05:21] Urchlay, you failed [05:21] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [05:21] Sharidog, just run 12.2 [05:21] [08:44:13] from where? slackware-current? bad idea to use that if you're on slackware 12.2 :P [05:22] I didn't fail, I got tired [05:22] TwinReverb (n=robert@61.34.55.13) joined ##slackware. [05:23] is ok, i just love ur guru knowladge [05:23] slack_china (n=slack_ch@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [05:24] Sharidog, i think the fix is to stop complaining if you are on -current [05:24] moving to -current removes your right to complain [05:25] Action: TwinReverb agrees with edman007 [05:25] bleah. So I asked you at least twice if you were on 12.2, and you kept saying yes... [05:25] hmm thanks to inform me, i will never do it again.. my wrong idea was " if current, is new, is better" [05:25] at (n=at@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:25] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [05:25] at kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: No, suck this. ##slackware != ##slackware_derivatives [05:26] KyNs (n=JRosy@77.246.72.85) joined ##slackware. [05:27] anyway I really am goin to bed. Night. [05:27] KyNs (n=JRosy@77.246.72.85) left irc: SendQ exceeded [05:28] gn and thanks again! [05:28] KyNs (n=JRosy@77.246.72.85) joined ##slackware. [05:31] bananagun (n=bananagu@175-246.178-72.bham.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:31] so i should rebuild libnet right?.. because i did't wrongly [05:31] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: No route to host [05:43] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:50] bananagun (n=bananagu@175-246.178-72.bham.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:50] It's really irritating how plasma finds a way to segfault because of something in ~/.kde [05:51] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-164-2.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [05:54] nix_chix0r, you're awake! [05:54] i havent fucking slept [05:55] i'm ok with it but i'm bout to strangle the bf if he doesnt stop stressing every time the baby cries [05:55] 6hrs sleep in 4 days for myself [05:56] they cry you deal it's that simple [05:59] Sharidog (n=i00nsu@a81-84-71-245.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:00] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:02] haha [06:06] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [06:08] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [06:11] Nick change: jnylin -> jnylin_ [06:11] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [06:12] Nick change: jnylin_ -> jnylin [06:14] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:15] One of the sample entries in smb.conf-sample is [fredsprn], which, contrary to what I thought, is short-hand for fred's printer... [06:17] ^^ [06:19] Action: edman007 tries to figure out how ccfreak2k interpreted it [06:21] TwinReverb (n=robert@61.34.55.13) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:22] Action: Camarade_Tux thinks edman007 is too pure [06:24] Camarade_Tux, no, i'm usually good at this stuff too... [06:25] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:25] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [06:25] bah, i give up, only other thing i can get out of that is fred sprain...which makes no sense [06:25] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.251) joined ##slackware. [06:25] not even just 'prn' ? [06:26] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [06:26] ohh.. [06:26] kama (n=kama@host69-118-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:26] Camarade_Tux, i always spell it with a 0 [06:26] thats what got me... [06:27] he, I always do it too but when reading 'fresprn', the part I couldn't figure out was 'freds', I figured the other one immediately :D [06:32] Camarade_Tux, i'm just not use to hiding that stuff... [06:33] Zendyani (n=Zendyani@41.221.18.56) joined ##slackware. [06:34] oh, you're living alone ? :D [06:35] v4nelle (n=van@adsl134-146.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:35] Zendyani (n=Zendyani@41.221.18.56) left ##slackware ("Quitte"). [06:36] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [06:36] slack_ (n=slack@213.163.118.85) joined ##slackware. [06:36] mornign [06:36] Undeon (i=c93ae770@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-10c6c012b403bb4c) joined ##slackware. [06:36] Hi guys.... The write support of NTFS files are confiable? I'll need install Windows into my notebook/desktop too and I'm wanting use one partition to put my musics, games etc for both OS... [06:37] i think kde4 starting problem is related to dbus [06:38] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host56-73.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [06:39] anyone who can help me install Vodafone Mobile Connect Card driver [06:41] kama (n=kama@host69-118-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:41] tntslack (n=will@adsl9-26.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:41] Undeon, with ntfs-3g yes, with the ntfs driver in the kernel no (that's why that one is actually disabled) [06:41] kama (n=kama@host69-118-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:41] Camarade_Tux: thanks buddy :) [06:42] Camarade_Tux, mostly...i am the only user on my computer :) [06:43] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [06:43] Undeon, if i were you i would probably keep the mp3s on FAT32, just because the linux support is better [06:43] for games though, you really need access to that from linux? [06:43] but NTFS should be used for the games [06:45] edman007: Using Wine will be easy mount a small lan to play games such Need for Speed for example? [06:45] i suppose.. [06:45] _RadioHead (n=slack@82.114.75.251) left irc: Connection timed out [06:45] not sure if you need write access for it [06:46] Nick change: slack_ -> _RadioHead [06:46] I want write access because of my downloads... [06:46] Action: Camarade_Tux has music on an ntfs partition, a 850GB one... [06:46] Camarade_Tux, i would NOT do that [06:46] Camarade_Tux: O.O [06:46] i don't trust NTFS with my data [06:46] small partition em.... [06:46] FAT32 is ok for flash drives...thats about it [06:47] it's meant to share data with windowses [06:47] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.24) joined ##slackware. [06:47] the partition is mostly empty btw (well, < 200GB) [06:47] 158GB to be precise [06:48] scottsd (n=schwepps@adsl-75-20-206-113.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:48] I really dont want make a windows partition... damn [06:48] Bahh I'll not do that XD Linux only here uhauhahuauhauha [06:49] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-023-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:49] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-023-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:50] argh, my / has 4.3GB worth of toolchains targetting mingw{32,64} and I was wondering were was my space gone... [06:51] Instead I'll make a pendrive with windows in case of emergency :D (And games at university uahhuahua) [06:51] you mean a BartPE ? [06:51] Undeon, thumb drive? [06:51] the people at my school installed halo to the my docs folder... [06:51] its networked, so we just open it up and run it [06:52] and have lan games on school computers while the people next to us try and get "work" done [06:52] Shuren (n=Devilman@host25-171-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:53] reminds me of my former school were the computers all had radeon X700... [06:53] edman007: Yes.... BartPE rokzzz auahuahuuha we do that too... :D But using Counter Strike, Worms... [06:53] I think the SkyTentacles screensaver has a bug. [06:53] heh, these comps all have onboard crap, but it runs.. [06:53] Great VGA (for a school O.O) in my, we use GMA T_T [06:53] slack_china (n=slack_ch@59.72.110.45) left irc: "‚»" [06:54] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.176.96) joined ##slackware. [06:54] WE USE GMA!!!! Buaaaaaaaaaaa [06:54] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host56-73.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [06:54] Undeon, I'm not sure you'll have 3D accel with bartpe [06:54] yea...i think thats what is on the comps at my school, some recent intel think...might be gma950 [06:55] GMA950 sux a lot [06:55] Undeon, yeah, having these cards was completely pointless [06:55] Undeon, runs halo, lol [06:55] Camarade_Tux: I'm thinking install it using the normal CD... the Windows install recognise the pen as HD... So I think it will accept 3d accell :D [06:56] edman007: Hmmmm GMA runs halo? XD [06:56] What'a the magic Microsoft used to make it possible? uahuhahuahua [06:57] Undeon, oh nice, just don't forget to install from your school computer or to use hardware profiles then [06:57] Undeon, yea...its gma950 or maybe older [06:57] Probably SM2.0 support. [06:57] My Intel i915GM supports it. [06:57] Camarade_Tux: I'll use my notebook to make the install... (My notebook have an Radeon HD2400 XD I can play something hehe) [06:58] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89-96-108-186.ip12.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [06:59] ccfreak2k: the problem aren't the hardware support... The GMAs don't runs nothing... are the same to put SM4.0 into a GeForce 4... Have support? Yes... Will have horsepower to run anything? NO.... :p [06:59] hughszg (n=hugh_2@218.82.204.157) left ##slackware. [06:59] If it doesn't crash, it fits the qualifications of "run" in my book. [07:00] slack_china (n=slack_ch@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [07:00] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Client Quit [07:01] ccfreak2k: Hehehhe... If you say so... But I would like see an GeForce 4 run Crysis huauhauhahuauhauha [07:01] slack_china (n=slack_ch@59.72.110.45) left irc: Client Quit [07:01] slack_china (n=slack_ch@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [07:01] slack_china (n=slack_ch@59.72.110.45) left irc: Client Quit [07:02] slack_china (n=slack_ch@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [07:03] ccfreak2k, i got much more strict standards, to "run" a program must perform reasonably close to whatever its advertised to so, speed is not an issue, as long as i don't get kicked from servers for lagging [07:03] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [07:03] Would be nice... Instead of frames per second.... we'll have minutes per frame :D [07:04] edman007: In case of games... I only increasy the candy eyes if the FPS are higher than 60... I cant accept someone said 30 FPS are acceptable... O.O [07:04] heh [07:04] even for an adventure or RTS... -.- [07:05] i try to get something reasonable at the full res... [07:05] slack_china (n=slack_ch@59.72.110.45) left irc: Client Quit [07:05] though i got some RTS games that can bring the system to a dead halt under CPU load... [07:05] ...i crash those so much :( [07:06] First I try max res... In my case 1280x800 on note and 1680x1050 on desk... Without AA etc... If I can more than 60FPS ok... If not... 1280x1024 XD [07:07] i must be the only one that likes playing those RTS games with near unlimited resources, because i do that and bring the unit count so high that i bring the system to a halt [07:07] I can't stand people who don't set their video options in game, they have 800x600 on a 1680x900 game, that's just ugly, it's everything but a native resolution for the screen ! [07:07] i usually get it so that by the end of the game my side of the map shows up on the map as a sold color... [07:09] get C&C Tiberium Wars, get a map with pits so you can't attack without air transport, now set an IA ennemy as Brutal Alien, it will make thousands of units without attacking ;) [07:09] kama (n=kama@host69-118-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:11] lol [07:11] lol [07:12] I never managed to kill them all because whenever I used a super weapon (atomic bomb or the like), the game would crash [07:12] the game's notion of time was also at least 4 times slower with so many units [07:13] _dTd_ (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:13] what's the name of USB modules? ohci_??? [07:13] ehci_??? [07:14] bzyk (n=bzyk@dys117.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:14] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. 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It's the 10th time i've reinstalled my linux here... -.- [07:27] he, I had the reflex of thinking in terms of custom kernel, I have only one of them now ;) [07:27] hi .. how do I make btdownloadcurses.py (the BitTornado client) use encrypted connections only ? [07:27] Camarade_Tux: The first think I'll do here are make a custom kernel... [07:27] And save it in my pendrive... hehehe [07:29] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host56-73.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [07:29] can anyone help me install Vodafone Mobile Connect Card driver [07:30] duryodhan (n=chatzill@nat/yahoo/x-91fed5c1bf79884e) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009012111]" [07:30] Hoogin, first, tell what's the problem [07:33] i don't know how to install it [07:34] i want to be able to usb my usb modem to access internet [07:34] use* [07:34] have you tried 'vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-for-linux-2.0.beta3-ALL-i386-installer.run' from https://forge.betavine.net/frs/?group_id=12&release_id=209 [07:34] nope, i will thanks [07:35] & [07:35] (oups, bad key) [07:35] s/bad/wrong/ [07:36] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:37] thanks it worked xD [07:37] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:38] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-164-2.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:39] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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[07:52] XGizzmo, you are quick [07:52] lol [07:55] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:56] <_RadioHead> hello XGizzmo [07:56] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-0-135.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:56] <_RadioHead> anyone else having problem starting kde? [07:57] <_RadioHead> in -current [07:57] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host56-73.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [07:58] Lapmann (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [07:59] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: No route to host [08:04] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:05] _RadioHead (n=slack@213.163.118.85) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:06] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.28.10) joined ##slackware. [08:09] _RadioHead (n=slack@213.163.113.22) joined ##slackware. [08:10] moss23 (n=cubicka@84.19.44.65) joined ##slackware. [08:11] hi, the rc.* scripts are started in abc order in boot time ? [08:11] moss23, no [08:12] and where may I set the order, say that I need bridge script to bu run before dhcpd [08:13] do I have to do it manually in rc.local ? [08:13] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:13] moss23 : look in rc.S and consequently in rc.M. they are responsible for starting majority of the other rc scripts [08:13] dhcpcd is started via rc.inet1 [08:13] rc.local is the very last one to be executed [08:14] dhcp daemon, server [08:14] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.43.116) joined ##slackware. [08:14] that's started in rc.inet2 [08:15] no it is not [08:16] you mean [08:16] that it is the right place to run it from [08:16] PenPerk (n=carlj@71.246.216.235) joined ##slackware. [08:18] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [08:19] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.221) joined ##slackware. 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[08:31] <_RadioHead> mesa: :) [08:31] <_RadioHead> hi [08:32] hey _RadioHead [08:33] MIrrorIMage (n=MIrrorIM@75-143-74-19.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [08:35] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176094176.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [08:35] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:38] <_RadioHead> fred: no chance to start kde here [08:40] actually dhcpd is not in etc/rc.d/ at all, I'll put it into rc.inet2...but I don't know, if there will be enough time for creating some virtual bridges and use them in dhcpd script right after [08:42] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE6267.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:42] say that I do: brctl addbr br0, brctl addif br0 tap0 ... and right after that dhcpd script will use the bridge in it's script [08:43] KyNs (n=JRosy@77.246.72.85) left irc: "Leaving" [08:46] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:11] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "leaving" [09:13] Undeon (i=c93ae770@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-10c6c012b403bb4c) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [09:13] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "Leaving." [09:14] Sleepymess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:14] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl7-82-103.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:25] skibur (n=skibur@67.65.197.68) joined ##slackware. [09:28] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:34] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:35] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-151-184.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [09:36] need help about phpmyadmin can't start it... i made all configs and i getting this error, while i trying to enter via browser [09:36] Forbidden [09:36] You don't have permission to access /phpMyAdmin/ on this server. [09:37] apache msql php are working fine [09:37] i made config from here http://slackwiki.org/PhpMyAdmin [09:38] any advices? [09:38] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:38] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [09:41] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:44] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-162-101.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:47] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [09:48] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Client Quit [09:49] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [09:50] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-144-235.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:52] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [09:54] hello happy slackers [09:54] hello:) [09:54] yo LnxSlck [09:54] Heya,folks [09:55] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.39.48) joined ##slackware. [09:55] mesa, hello there [09:55] hello MLanden hitest [09:55] :) [09:55] heya,LnxSlck [09:55] Hiya LnxSlick [09:56] just reading my mails and next upgrade to -current [09:56] yeah [09:57] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:00] Nick change: Sleepymess -> Emess [10:01] was kde 4 removed from the Slackware Current Testing Directory? [10:01] judging from the changelog, yes [10:01] KDE4 is now in /kde [10:02] DeeeeP_ (i=1003@bl11-183-28.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [10:02] :S [10:04] well going to upgrade to -current [10:04] wish me luck [10:04] good luck! [10:04] Zendyani (n=Zendyani@41.221.19.239) joined ##slackware. [10:04] have a good crash :) [10:05] and burn [10:05] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [10:05] nooo [10:05] lool [10:05] you guys [10:05] see you [10:05] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl7-82-103.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [10:05] Action: Camarade_Tux leaves too, gonna slack on something else ;p [10:06] Zendyani (n=Zendyani@41.221.19.239) left irc: Client Quit [10:07] hi, I've got a hardware question and I'm not sure where to ask for opinions. i'm currently using slack 12.2. I am shopping around for a entry level laptop. does fsb speed affect linux? will i notice a difference between 800 and 1800 ? [10:10] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl8-70-238.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:10] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.28.172.139) joined ##slackware. [10:11] k3b is broken ? [10:11] cant launch k3b [10:11] (4374)/: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server [10:11] (4373)/: KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly. [10:11] on kde4 ? [10:11] konus (n=konus@staticline2725.toya.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:11] xfce4 , -current [10:12] the k3b for kde4 doesn't work yet, correct [10:12] i just got 1 k3b [10:12] thanks anyhow [10:12] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware. [10:13] konus (n=konus@staticline2725.toya.net.pl) left irc: Client Quit [10:13] what alternative do i have , to k3b ? [10:13] thrice`: I believe the k3b compat pack for kde4 works though in slackware-current [10:14] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.39.48) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:15] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:15] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:16] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-164-2.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [10:18] need help about phpmyadmin can't start it... i made all configs and i getting this error, while i trying to enter via browser [10:18] Forbidden You don't have permission to access /phpMyAdmin/ on this server [10:18] i made config from here http://slackwiki.org/PhpMyAdmin [10:18] ok newbie question, can i mkinitrd different initrd.gz for different kernel versions? ie 2.6.28.7 and .8? [10:18] make one, copy the file, make the other [10:19] (-k option to mkinitrd is relevant) [10:19] tntslack: its a permissions issue.. you've missed something somewhere [10:19] were should i look for that? [10:20] fred, so it's possible. then, what about the output file. will the second one also be named initrd.gz? [10:20] check the phpmyadmin installation instructions [10:20] yes. note the "copy the file" in those instructions :p [10:20] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-151-184.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:20] or use -c to clear the old [10:21] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [10:22] thrice`, i wanna keep the old one to make sure i can boot the system in case the new kernel goes wrong [10:22] you can copy it as fred mentioned, or just keep the huge kernel around for a fallback [10:24] copy as in "cp initrd.gz abc.gz"? [10:24] oh damnit, I've got kernels to build haven't i :( [10:24] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [10:24] IntangibleLiquid: yes. [10:24] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:24] then make it so the initrd entryi n lilo.conf poitns at that for the old one, but at initrd.gz for the new one [10:24] IntangibleLiquid: yep, and point lilo.conf at it [10:25] oh I see. thanks. will let you know how it works out. I still have the install cd right here so it's gonna be ok :-) [10:26] the huge kernel will always boot; that's really a better alternative than keeping 2 different generic versions around, imo [10:27] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.8.57) joined ##slackware. [10:28] yoyoyo (n=matt0@CPE-60-226-3-65.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:29] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-129-5.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [10:29] So. Lets talk dbus notify pop ups [10:30] kso3 (n=tdd31ec@no.one.saw.me.onthenet.as) joined ##slackware. [10:30] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:31] Say I was to run this piece of code[sample] [10:31] http://pastebin.com/d17c3a9c7 [10:31] Raises this error for me.... [10:31] File "error", line 7, in [10:31] notify_obj = bus.get_object("org.freedesktop.Notifications", "/org/freedesktop/Notifications") [10:31] dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Notifications was not provided by any .service files [10:32] I assume there is some dbus related package I need? [10:32] that's a python error [10:32] O rly [10:32] not related to this channel :) [10:33] *sigh* I never think about which channel to join [10:33] Action: yoyoyo Walks off [10:33] yoyoyo (n=matt0@CPE-60-226-3-65.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [10:34] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-129-5.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:35] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:36] laugh [10:36] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:38] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. 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[10:56] i see only the codes... [10:56] cause your apache doesnt loaded the modules , prolly [10:56] Flioppy (n=virginia@193.175.98.239) joined ##slackware. [10:56] tntslack, try with [10:56] default php.ini not uses short tags [10:57] I'd been able to "make menuconfig" until this afternoon when I've got many error messages regarding scripts/basic/fixdep.c [10:57] where should by php.ini ? [10:58] see [10:58] /etc/httpd/php.ini [10:58] /etc/apache/php.ini for me [10:58] here's the error output: http://pastebin.com/d3b55615a [10:58] ok is there [10:59] but my apache is old :D [10:59] AlphaWaves (n=AlphaWav@113.239.206-77.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [10:59] does httpd.conf load php module? [10:59] hello [10:59] hello AlphaWaves [11:00] Flioppy (n=virginia@193.175.98.239) left irc: "Leaving" [11:00] ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.28.8 /usr/src/linux [11:00] helloagain (n=helloaga@62.87.208.174) joined ##slackware. [11:00] tntslack, open /etc/httpd/httpd.conf [11:00] and see some lines at bottom [11:00] hello, could you help me, i have some problems with start KDE. After typing startx i can see this error: http://wklej.org/hash/76911780a7/ [11:01] it have to have line that is commented [11:01] just uncomment [11:01] and restart apache, /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd restart [11:01] i made that [11:01] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:02] ok ok done it [11:02] ffs [11:02] thanks [11:02] http://wklej.org/hash/76911780a7/ - i don't native speaker and i don't understand this error at all [11:04] (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable [11:04] Pig_Pen, how can i fix it? [11:04] looks like an xorg.conf error [11:04] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [11:05] i use livecd and this error i can only see on my notebook, on other PCs KDE starts good [11:05] open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and comment out aiglx and see if it works, if you can get X working then you know what the problem is [11:06] as I said is livecd, so i can't change the files on it [11:06] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=Nikolai-@201.20.64.142) joined ##slackware. [11:06] and as i said there are some PC, where this CD works good, so why? [11:07] slackware live cd? [11:07] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.5.110) joined ##slackware. [11:07] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.8.57) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:08] Panzer, no, but i ask here, 'cos on kde channel told me that i should ask here [11:08] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-023-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:08] Panzer, (BackTrack 3.0) [11:09] Soeren (n=soren@c83-252-61-80.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [11:09] Pig_Pen, so you mean that after typing startx i run KDE and AIGLX? [11:09] and i should disable AIGLX, right? [11:10] Can someone help me? When i use cfdisk in slackware 12.2. it tells that it is read only, why? [11:10] yup, according to that error aiglx is causing you problems so put a # in front of it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf [11:11] Pig_Pen, but if livecd is readable only? Is is any command i should type to run KDE without AIGLX? [11:11] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [11:11] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.24) left irc: [11:11] you wont be editing the liveCD itself, you would be editing the file that was loaded when it booted, once you reboot that file disapears [11:14] ok, so thanks, i will try it [11:14] cya [11:14] AlphaWaves (n=AlphaWav@113.239.206-77.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: [11:14] helloagain (n=helloaga@62.87.208.174) left irc: "MegaIRC v3.97 http://ironfist.at.tut.by" [11:15] Pig_Pen [11:15] can you help me? [11:15] maybe [11:15] lets see, what would cause cfdisk to run in read-only mode [11:15] how to make it in read and write mode then? [11:16] NEVER run disk tools on mounted disk partitions [11:16] run it as root [11:16] or su or sudo [11:16] I do runt in root [11:17] should i copy it all to the harddisk instead? [11:17] point cfdisk at the drive you want to work on like: cfdisk /dev/sda [11:18] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [11:18] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [11:18] cfdisk usually defaults to the first available disk if you dont specify what you want, /dev/sda or dev/hda [11:20] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [11:20] oh. i think i used on the cd disk then? [11:20] thats why its read only! [11:20] lol [11:20] Im not sure :P [11:21] in my school i do it from the network. So we only use cfdisk then. I had never done it on disk. [11:24] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:24] MIrrorIMage (n=MIrrorIM@75.143.74.19) left irc: "Gone!" [11:24] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] you have root access on a school pc ? wow [11:26] that is prob a maybe just don't tell anyone ok... [11:27] tank-man we are learning slackware in school. so yes we got root access. [11:28] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:28] theoffset (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:29] slackware in school, thats cool! where are you going to school at? [11:29] Pig_Pen in sweden. [11:29] wow [11:29] that is different [11:29] do you not learn it in school? [11:29] college? [11:30] In sweden you learn it in every IT school [11:30] yes collage [11:30] when i went to school the PC was not invented yet, the most advanced piece of electron equipment we had in school was those IBM selectric typewriters [11:31] Hahaha :D [11:31] hightec [11:31] just call me grampa [11:31] We had a linuxcourse in upper secondary school (gymnasiet in swedish?) although we "learned" ubuntu. [11:31] im only 18 years old. [11:31] 47 [11:31] I had Apple Macintosh IIe back in school.. [11:31] gymnaset yes [11:32] superb [11:32] not collage. gymnaiet is it [11:32] But slackware is better than ubuntu, right? [11:32] define better [11:32] KjellB where are you from? [11:32] depends [11:32] I don't think its better in every case. [11:33] i agree, slackware is the best linux distro, Linux does not get better than slackware (IMO) [11:33] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.172.1) joined ##slackware. [11:33] What is the big differens? [11:33] protei (n=protei@129.as-24.nienschanz.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:35] Sorry, but im a litte newtard in linux :) [11:36] im a little teapot [11:36] haha :D [11:36] im a big yellow submarine [11:36] thats awesome! [11:37] btw when you ask that question here you can open a big can of worms [11:37] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-023-055.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] big yellow snowcown, what? [11:38] Go ask that in #ubuntu. "(09:29:14 AM) Soeren: But slackware is better than ubuntu, right?" [11:39] They'd all agree. [11:39] They'd say "Oh, definitely. We in #ubuntu can't even figure out how to get xorg running in slack" [11:39] haha, i dont think that they will be that happy :P [11:39] They would beg for you, the slackware user, to provide some of your supreme knowledge to them. [11:40] im not very good in slack yet :p [11:40] ubuntu is t3h ghey distro [11:40] You probably know a lot they don't. [11:40] heh, ubuntu is the distro everybody loves to hate. Like that popular blonde bitch from high school, nobody likes her but everybody fapfapfaps. [11:41] :| [11:41] I mean, we're talking about ubuntu... AGAIN.. in #slackware [11:41] I mean, we're talking about mfapping... AGAIN... in #slackware [11:41] fred: I fap for slamd64, truly. :D [11:41] hahaha [11:41] lol [11:42] nuts [11:42] balls [11:42] mdeanda (n=mdeanda@cpe-76-170-19-19.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "'oops'" [11:42] we had a chic like that in school, everyone hated her, i still remember her name Judy Wilcox, we all called her dirty judy [11:43] this is funny :D [11:43] so what happened to dirty judy? [11:43] [in bed] [11:43] :D [11:43] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.241) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:43] pregnant [11:44] i dont know what happened to dirty judy, what i dont get was i never seen any reason to hate her, she was not a whore [11:45] human nature [11:45] teenage peer pressure, kids can be so damn cruel [11:45] yeah, humans need to ostracise somebody. [11:46] Action: fred picks eviljames [11:46] Action: Panzer picks fred [11:46] Marge: "Kids can be so cruel." Bart: "We can?! Thanks mom!!" *runs away* Lisa: "OWW!! BART!" [11:46] :'( [11:46] laugh [11:47] fred: There's no need to ostracise me, I do that plenty on my own. I'm a fringe element wherever I go, at best. [11:47] so, pick on someone else, jerk. [11:47] ;) [11:49] tntslack (n=will@adsl9-26.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:49] Soeren (n=soren@c83-252-61-80.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: "- nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -" [11:50] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:51] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:51] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [11:53] I know I'm slow, but where the heck have all the themes on freshmeat gone? O_o [11:56] smica (n=smica@91.146.170.241) joined ##slackware. [11:58] http://themes.freshmeat.net/ [11:59] I'm there, but I don't see any of the tens of thousands of themes it hosted in the past. [12:00] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=Nikolai-@201.20.64.142) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:01] sfergut (n=uyjkgh@188.24.23.55) joined ##slackware. [12:01] skibur (n=skibur@67.65.197.68) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [12:02] rosh__ (n=rosh@e176094020.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:02] hi ... there is an how to to configure the wireless card as an wireless access point so i can share my ethernet connection through my wireless card ? [12:02] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.14.22) left irc: "Leaving" [12:03] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.43.116) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:07] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [12:08] superGear (i=1000@71.229.156.85) joined ##slackware. [12:09] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [12:09] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [12:10] lee555J5 (n=lee@68.113.105.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:10] colmcille: what themes are you looking for? some window manager? [12:11] I'm sure I used to get Windowmaker, GTK etc. themes from there. [12:11] With some Googling I've found a post where they say they have dropped all the themes. [12:12] http://help.freshmeat.net/discussions/questions/20-themesfm-gone [12:12] There. [12:12] http://wmthemes.jessanderson.org/ google pulled this up, seems that since freshmeat redecorated their website a lot of stuff disapeared [12:12] Yeah thank you, that is a nice one. [12:13] I wonder what prompted them to have the brain fart. [12:13] i dont like the new freshmeat look, the old one worked better [12:14] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [12:14] The login doesn't even show what to enter in the boxes. I just assume the first box is for username, and the second for password. [12:14] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.115.148.153) joined ##slackware. [12:15] I can't find anywhere to delete my account either. [12:15] i guess freshmeat is following in slashdot's footsteps, more kludge and less functionality [12:15] Certainly, for me, no reason to have an account if there are no themes there. [12:16] *nods* [12:16] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [12:17] you might do better googling for themes nowadays [12:17] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [12:18] Yeah. [12:18] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176094176.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:19] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:27] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.28.10) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:27] Agiofws (n=agiofws@79.131.212.29) joined ##slackware. [12:27] Agiofws (n=agiofws@79.131.212.29) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:29] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[12:50] would using dvd+rw-format at one time on a dvd+rw be the possible cause of my freshly-burned slack12.2 disc not wanting to boot? [12:51] rizitis (n=rizitis@athedsl-4561818.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:53] arktvrvs, just use burn image option and set the defaults for image burning [12:53] arktvrvs, check also the md5sum of the slackware .iso file on the download link match the one you have on your PC [12:54] i used growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=slackblabla.iso [12:54] but now im realizing this particular disc has given me i/o problems so im about to try a different one [12:54] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.56.158.172) joined ##slackware. [12:55] arktvrvs, the dvd-compat option is not necessary here [12:56] i didn't think it would be, but thats what i've used till now... trying again with a different disc [13:00] is good to specify the speed too [13:00] not always the growisofs can determine the right speed for the disc [13:00] theoffset (n=ismael@132.254.52.80) joined ##slackware. [13:01] anyone know of a domain registrar that does free private whois registration? [13:02] www.suckers-r-us.com? [13:02] heh [13:02] i'd rather not double the cost of the domain @ godaddy for private reg [13:03] PenPerk (n=carlj@71.246.216.235) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [13:03] there must be a better deal out there somewhere :) [13:03] I use namecheap, but you only get the first year free [13:04] http://www.doteasy.com/Services/PrivateRegistration/ [13:04] http://hostsite.com/domain-names.html [13:04] yeah. wonder how much their "domain protection pack" is [13:05] cool, a new wine [13:05] mshade: the second one is free with a $14/yr domain registration [13:06] hm. that ain't too bad [13:06] better than $20/yr for godaddy [13:06] godaddy throws in other freebies though [13:07] I can't remember what... but I'm pretty sure they give you some free "starter" services [13:07] nah they're anything but free [13:07] they do include free DNS but i don't use that :) [13:09] Action: sitwon likes Amazon's new EC2 pricing [13:09] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. 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[13:20] maybe he is a starbucks fanboy, personally i wont pay 5 dollars for a cup of coffee with cocoa added [13:21] arktvrvs (n=stygian@ppp-70-254-194-155.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:21] Starbucks Frappuccino > * > Starbucks Coffee [13:22] some of those craigslist adds are silly, some are stupid and some funny, i seen a few that are ripoffs with the price of a used item so close to what a new item is selling for you might as well buy it new that way you know it has been unopened and get a recipt and warrenty [13:24] Shuren (n=Devilman@host25-171-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "In silence we still talk..." [13:24] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:26] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:26] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:44] hi ppl [13:44] hey, if I plug usb stick, dmesh says it is attached to dev/sg1, but mount /dev/sg1 /media/usb says it is not a block device [13:44] *dmesg [13:45] any ideas please ? [13:45] rgouveia_ (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:45] fdisk -l [13:46] moss23: are you sure the USB stick is the sg? [13:46] that's not usually how mass storage devices detect [13:47] it is under /dev/sdb1....thanks, I don't know why it said dev/sg1 [13:47] sg1 is probably your cd/dvd drive [13:47] ^ [13:47] moss23, if i understand right, with some newer usb devices it will have a couple of devices involved in the process. mine does that too. [13:51] ok i see what it's doing [13:51] Camarade_Tux_ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:51] the sgX component is just the scsi generic device. the sdX component is the actual block device [13:51] sg is generic, sd is disk [13:51] damnit :p [13:51] \o/ [13:51] (where 'generic' can include scanners and so on) [13:51] yep [13:52] hi fred :) [13:52] Action: dartmouth waves [13:53] Action: fred looks at hostmask and gets a drink [13:53] lol [13:53] dude i haven't seen you around in foreveeeer [13:54] I've been here... [13:54] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/" [13:54] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@59.93.5.110) left irc: ":wq" [13:54] amro (n=amro@li37-20.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [13:54] how is the 64-bit project coming? [13:55] well enough. [13:56] Dr4kk4r (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) joined ##slackware. [13:56] visf (n=ivan@bb219-75-46-179.singnet.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [13:59] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:05] sera a tutti [14:06] and what are exactly udev/rules for ? if I make a new interface with tunctl, it does exist, it has it's block file, but it's not registered in udev at all [14:06] in that rules [14:06] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: "Leaving" [14:07] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:08] I guess the rules are just additional information [14:09] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:11] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-148-165.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:13] hughszg (n=hugh_2@222.65.127.102) left ##slackware. [14:14] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [14:16] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:19] eddief2 (n=eddie@141.157.207.202) joined ##slackware. [14:19] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. 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I have a problem with loading the emu10k1 module (snd-emu10k1) alsa is loading the hda-intel card that's integrated with my motherboard all the time [14:48] tr0nd (n=mathias@h59n6c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:49] Panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [14:50] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:50] tr0nd: There should be an option in the BIOS settings to disable your integrated sound card. [14:51] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl7-82-103.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:52] grey (n=grey@vs1.svartalfheim.net) left ##slackware. [14:52] hello happy slackers [14:52] just running my just installed -current :D [14:52] for the first time it didn't crashed [14:52] LnxSlck: Hello. How are you? [14:53] firebird619, hello there [14:53] firebird619, just on my finished -current install :) [14:53] LnxSlck: Cool, your on current and you didn't get a kernel panic like you were concerned about. [14:53] clean upgrade.. just the one's i love [14:53] LnxSlck: Nice. :) [14:53] firebird619, yes.. for the first time :) [14:53] thrice`, did help me [14:53] firebird619, now i'm on kde 4 [14:53] sweet [14:54] LnxSlck: What do you think of KDE4 [14:54] firebird619, i like kde.. although i use openbox [14:54] firebird619, in kde4 they really improve things.. [14:54] firebird619, i really admire the kde team [14:54] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) left irc: "Leaving" [14:54] pushing things forward, not like gnome [14:54] LnxSlck: Yeah, it's really nice. I use xfce myself, but I have tried KDE4 and like it. [14:55] firebird619, they really changed things.. it's good to have projects like that [14:55] wow amarok 2 its different [14:55] :D [14:55] LnxSlck: Yeah, Amarok 2 is really different. [14:56] It is still nice though and works good, for me at least. [14:56] amarok has always been solid [14:56] Hi thumbs. How are you? [14:56] wait [14:57] i want to add a folder to amarok.. witch has more folders in it [14:57] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [14:57] now it's giving me some kind of error.. [14:57] firebird619: pretty bad [14:57] brrr [14:57] firebird619: someone spilled beer on my laptop, and it's out of commission [14:57] LnxSlck: What error, it works fine for me? [14:57] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [14:57] thumbs: Yikes, thats not good. Sorry to hear that. [14:58] firebird619: slack was failing to boot half the time after that [14:58] firebird619: but I got it to work as it used to, more or less. SO I guess the HD is fine. [14:58] thumbs: Thankfully. :) [14:59] firebird619: I backed up my /home on my work wintendo machine, too. [14:59] thumbs, i guess slack enjoys some beer :) [14:59] firebird619: now the bloody thing smells like beer. [14:59] thumbs: Yeah, always important to backup. I do so daily (the stuff that has changed) to DVD's and to an extra hard drive. [15:00] firebird619: I had all my music production stuff on it [15:00] thumbs: Were you able to save that too? [15:00] firebird619: but since I had randome files being filled with binary data, sadly, I'm gonna have to reinstall [15:00] firebird619: the data is fine, I hope. [15:00] thumbs: Yeah, I hope too. Good luck. [15:00] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:01] firebird619: /etc/mtab had garbage in it. [15:01] firebird619: but then, as that file was generated during boot, I think only new files were impacted [15:01] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:02] greetings and salutations [15:02] Greetings andarius. How are you? [15:02] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:02] firebird619: thanks anyway [15:02] salutations firebird619. i am well but a bit tired still. you ? [15:02] thumbs: Yeah. What an unfortunate thing to happen. [15:03] andarius: It's 63 here. :) I'm great. Thanks. [15:03] LnxSlck: Having any luck with amarok adding your folders? What error did you get? [15:04] firebird619, sort off.. let's say i have a folder.. inside that folder i have a lot of other fodlers [15:04] we are told to expect a high of 63 but it is 58 now. [15:05] firebird619, i want to add the "parent" folder.. in the last amarok all i had to do is add media, and select the folder [15:05] andarius: Where are you at? [15:05] firebird619, not really happen in this new.. but i will check it [15:05] firebird619: just north of Atlanta GA [15:07] andarius: Ah, ok. I'm in Minnesota, so 63 is great compared what we've had a week or two ago in the 30s, etc. [15:07] roger [15:09] theoffset (n=ismael@132.254.52.91) joined ##slackware. [15:09] LnxSlck: When you first started amarok, didn't it bring up a window asking where your collection was? Then, you just pick whatever folder your music is in and it adds it all. That's how it worked for me anyway. [15:09] firebird619, nope [15:10] LnxSlck: Did you have amarok installed before where it is trying to use the old config files, etc.? [15:10] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:10] firebird619, maybe [15:11] i just want to add a folder that contains other folders [15:11] weird [15:11] LnxSlck: Just a thought. I don't know what amarok uses, I don't have any dot files, like .amarok or anything. [15:11] me neither [15:12] LnxSlck: In Amarok, go to Settings, Configure Amarok and try picking your folder there. [15:12] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:12] LnxSlck: Oops, when in Configure Amarok, you have to click Collection first, then pick folder. [15:13] riemann (n=riemann@41.221.18.204) joined ##slackware. [15:13] LnxSlck: then click import collection, and if that doesn't work try rescan collection. [15:13] bono (i=bono@118-160-168-40.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:13] hi all [15:13] riemann: Hi. How are you? [15:14] firebird619, got it :D [15:14] fine [15:14] LnxSlck: Yay. :) [15:14] firebird619, it's a bit diferent [15:15] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.56.158.172) left irc: "laters" [15:16] LnxSlck: You mean the layout of it or what? The layout is really different. On the left, if it isn't already, you click "Collection" which then shows "Local Collection" which you click the plus sign to expand if it isn't already. (You maybe know this already). [15:16] mikk0 (n=mikk01@YKCMLXXX.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [15:17] firebird619, yes.. i'm used to the old one [15:18] LnxSlck: Ok. :) It is a nice player. I like how the new one is designed. [15:19] yes [15:19] how do i grep stderr? right now i'm doing a 2>&1 | grep something. is there another way without using stdout? [15:19] it's a matter of time [15:20] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [15:20] tntslack (n=will@adsl9-26.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:21] GsXs (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:21] firebird619, the old amarok had more scripts/addons [15:21] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:21] LnxSlck: Yeah, it does. [15:21] risperidon (n=risperid@189.77.60.158) left irc: "." [15:22] LnxSlck: Maybe that stuff will come down the road for the new one. [15:22] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [15:22] firebird619, i liked the one that fetched lyrics written in python or ruby... it's the best [15:23] LnxSlck: Yeah, it's nice to have the lyrics right there to see without having to go look them up yourself. [15:23] hi, is anyone successfully using an ATI HD 3200 with KDE 4 and slack 12.2 ? [15:23] firebird619, this amarok needs a good cover finder [15:23] or compiz and slack 12.2 for that matter ? [15:24] LnxSlck: It does have Tools -> Cover Manager to fetch missing covers, or doesn't that work very well. I haven't tried it. [15:25] firebird619, it's not as good as the old one [15:25] LnxSlck: Ah, Ok. [15:26] Ramdac_ (n=ramdac@41.232.168.165) joined ##slackware. [15:26] LnxSlck: http://www.kde-apps.org/index.php?xcontentmode=57 <--- Here's some amarok 2 scripts. [15:27] not sure if there's a cover or lyrics one though. I'm just looking now. [15:27] firebird619, thanks.. i will check that later [15:27] firebird619, i'm really liking this -current :D [15:27] excuse me please , i've just downloaded slackware 12.2 iso and burned it into disk but in the middle of the installation it hangs [15:27] LnxSlck: There is a lyrics one there, not sure how good it is. [15:28] Ramdac_, maybe disc not well burned/downloaded [15:28] Ramdac_, maybe bad hardware [15:28] i tried different times and every time it hangs with different package [15:28] LnxSlck: There's even a youtube script to find and add youtube videos to your playlist if you like that at all. [15:29] LnxSlck: No cover downloaders on there, but there are a few lyrics finders. [15:29] firebird619, yes.. the one's i liked more, were the python script for getting lyrics and the cover finder [15:29] i made md5sum check in the iso [15:29] and all listed ok [15:29] Ramdac_: bad dvd drive? [15:30] thanks anyhow [15:30] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware. [15:30] thumbs:how to know? [15:30] Ramdac_: you said your md5sum was OK. [15:30] Ramdac_: try with another dvd drive [15:30] its on my Laptop:D [15:32] thumbs:evem if it was from the drive is there a way to fix it? [15:33] thumbs:cuz i just installed slackware 12 two days ago with same drive [15:33] Ramdac_: um [15:33] firebird619, my first amarok crash.. lol [15:33] Ramdac_: what kernel did you pick? [15:33] firebird619, it was using 103% of my cpu [15:33] thumbs:the default huge.s i think [15:34] LnxSlck: Wow, it was using that much. [15:34] LnxSlck: At least it didn't crash the whole pc. :D [15:34] firebird619, all the sudden yes [15:34] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [15:34] firebird619, i don't think i ever had a full pc crash [15:34] only apps crashs [15:35] LnxSlck: I haven't either that I recall, only app crashes. Windows was a different story. :D [15:35] firebird619, tell me about it... [15:35] is it possible to see how long slack is installed? [15:35] how many days? [15:36] LnxSlck: I'm not sure about that. I know there's ways to see uptime, etc. [15:37] uptime only counts from last reboot i think [15:37] LnxSlck: Yeah, I think so too. [15:37] ls -l /etc/slackware-version [15:38] if you haven't upgraded slackware versions, anyway [15:38] 03-12-2008 [15:38] not bad [15:38] thrice`: Cool. I didn't know about that command. Thanks. [15:39] actually it shows when that file was created [15:39] what, the "ls" command? :) [15:39] i guess if that file gets overwritten by an upgrade.. it looses all sense [15:39] thrice`: I new about ls, just not viewing /etc/slackware-version. :) [15:39] LnxSlck: Mine was 02-12-2008. [15:40] firebird619, i had one before, but i messed up the upgrade [15:40] so i did a clean install [15:40] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [15:41] LnxSlck: Yeah. I've had slackware installed a few months. I started with 12.2 and then upgraded to -current last week. [15:41] now i have my lappy to upgrade to -current :D [15:41] LnxSlck: Yay. Good luck. [15:42] :D [15:42] great.. amarok just messed up my music folder.. [15:42] bah [15:42] LnxSlck: Gosh, your not having to good an experience with that are you? :D [15:42] LnxSlck: First a crash and then messed up music folder. :) [15:43] Action: fred hugs jerboa [15:43] GsXs (n=gsxs@estrela.certelnet.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:43] I like how slackpkg is installed by default in slackware 12.2 [15:43] talking of slackpkg [15:44] i have 2 packages of pidgin.. how do i remove one of those [15:44] so slacpkg can work? [15:44] LnxSlck: pkgtool is your friend [15:44] 'removepkg' on one of them... [15:44] I believe just removepkg /var/log/packages/whichever pidgin you want removed, right? [15:44] run pkgtool and go to remove packages and select the pidgin you don't want [15:45] LnxSlck: also consider the second pidgin package you installed overwrote the first one, i would suggest removing both and install the one you want [15:45] Action: aceofspades19 agrees with Pig_Pen [15:46] LnxSlck: how would did mess us a directory with music files ? [15:46] thanks guys [15:47] pkgtool is great indeed [15:47] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: "leaving" [15:47] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-156-85.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: No route to host [15:47] i removed the old one.. i had build the latest pidgin package.. [15:47] now slackpkg works great [15:48] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] wow, I thought dia would be a headache to install [15:49] but it was actually really easy [15:49] isnt dia very gnome dependant? [15:49] apparently not [15:50] I just ran the slackbuild and it installed and ran fine without any dependencies [15:50] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [15:50] Dr4kk4r (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:50] just gtk dependant, thats good though [15:50] dia is a gnome project, but the u/i people did a good job of it [15:52] dia is awesome [15:52] speaking about gtk, some apps look butt ugly without gtk-qt-engine [15:53] gtk-qt engine should be installed by default [15:53] pacman87 (n=timothy@pool-173-57-39-82.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:53] riemann (n=riemann@41.221.18.204) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:55] yeah, i agree. i can see new users a) not knowing about gtk-qt-engine, and b) being totally disgusted by the look of some apps [15:56] it should at least be in a readme of some sort [15:57] the ugliest apps (i've seen anyway) has got to be firefox and mplayer [15:57] (w/o the engine) [15:57] emacs is pretty ugly too without the engine [15:58] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-10-25-199.bmly.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] s|without the engine|| [15:59] seems like the KDE developer team would consider what gtk based apps look like in kde and fix that [15:59] Pig_Pen: its not their problem [16:00] but then again many users, i imagine, don't really care about the aesthetics of a program. for them functionality > looks. :P [16:00] s/users/slackware users/ [16:01] whrere can one find that gtk-qt-engine? [16:01] LnxSlck: slackbuilds.org [16:01] aceofspades19: i bet many slackware users care about how shiny a program looks :P [16:02] aceofspades19, i will see that.. thanks [16:02] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:02] see? there's one of them now [16:02] heh [16:02] :D [16:02] antler, well i don't really care about looks [16:03] now slackbuilds doesn't have scripts for -current right? [16:03] LnxSlck: I'm sure most of their scripts will work with --current [16:03] heh was just thinking that a guy could get really depressed if all his girlfriends said to him, "hey, i don't really care about looks" [16:05] how many girlfriends do most guys have? [16:05] i'd be wondering how he ended up with multiple girlfriends [16:06] heh not "at a time", but "over time" [16:06] LnxSlck: no, we only support the latest Slackware-stable. [16:06] i once had a girlfriend a long time ago but my wife would not let me keep her [16:07] Pig_Pen: you aren't supposed to say anything to your wife [16:07] threesome ftw? ;) [16:07] doh! [16:08] Pig_Pen: you are supposed to say you are going on "business trips" to your wife when you visit your girlfriend ;) [16:08] i'm sooo glad i did a threesome once before i got married :D [16:08] thats the american way [16:09] thats the thing, i work locally, i get home around 3:30 or 4:00 every evening [16:09] Pig_Pen: sucks to be you [16:10] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [16:10] i would recomment that every single try it at least once :P [16:10] thats the american way # i guess that's wise way =) [16:10] yeah, it sucks to be me, i think i will be somebody else for a while [16:11] Ramdac_ (n=ramdac@41.232.168.165) left irc: [16:12] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-96-97.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:13] tyg13 (n=Tyler@ip70-172-212-58.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] tyg13 (n=Tyler@ip70-172-212-58.ri.ri.cox.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:15] american way? the europeans, i hear, don't need to sneak around like that. :P [16:15] can you get NPR on the FM radio? they are playing some classic blues music right now [16:15] antler, europe isnt one country [16:17] slackbuilds pending queue looks very busy [16:19] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: "Leaving" [16:21] mikk0: it isn't? [16:21] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:22] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-100-176.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:23] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [16:30] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:33] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [16:40] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: "Leaving." [16:40] antler, i'm european aska away [16:40] lol [16:45] ramdac_ (n=ramdac@41.232.168.165) joined ##slackware. [16:46] anybody knows what is the equivalent to the alsa-base file which was in Ubuntu? [16:47] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [16:47] or where to find it? [16:47] ramdac_: the slackware package is not broken down like that [16:48] thumbs:ok do u know where it is? [16:48] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:48] ramdac_: I just told you slackware does not break down also into sub-packages [16:49] s/also/alsa/ [16:49] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [16:49] cpunches (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:50] cpunches (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:50] cpunches (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:50] in ubuntu it was /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base so where is the alsa's configuration file? 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[16:57] sfergut (n=uyjkgh@188.24.23.55) left irc: "Leaving" [16:57] rgouveia_ (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:58] sfergut:my sound is hda-nvidia and i've searched at alsa's site and found that it is supported but the problem is that the sound comes from both headphones and speakers when i plug in a headphone [16:59] ALVAN (n=briooo@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [17:02] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A75855.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] y0 [17:03] y1 [17:03] theoffset (n=ismael@132.254.52.91) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:04] pirving (n=Talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:04] can anyone tell me how good FrostWire is as a torrent downloader??? [17:04] anyone had problems with thunar icons looking pretty bad? [17:04] pirving, ktorrent it's pretty good [17:04] pirving, and rtorrent for cli [17:04] LnxSlck: I haven't. Look bad how? [17:05] firebird619, they all look the same [17:05] thats bad [17:05] firebird619, it's a theme problem i guess [17:05] LnxSlck: You see, I'm running windows, because netflix isn't supported in linux [17:05] :( [17:05] LnxSlck: Oh. I haven't had that, mine look nice. [17:05] slackytude: Hey. Hows are you? [17:05] s/hows/how [17:06] firebird619, fine, fine. all fine with youself I hope? and how is your scanner? [17:07] slackytude: Yes, all is fine here, it's 66 here today, really nice. The scanner is fixed now, in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf file it had brother instead of brother2. [17:07] heh [17:07] oh brother [17:07] slackytude: lol [17:07] was a nce day here too. spent some hours outside and chopped some wood [17:08] slackytude: Such a small, simple fix for that problem. [17:09] slackytude: Isn't it something that all the problem was, was a "2". :) [17:09] firebird619, gotta love computer [17:09] yes. happy vernal equinox :) [17:09] 's [17:09] which program that runs .chm file [17:09] ramdac_: you are full of questions today [17:09] ramdac_, internet explorer :P [17:10] slackytude: Yeah, you sure do. :) I guess you can look at the positive, thinking out these problems, finding fixes, etc. keeps the mind working. [17:10] thumbs:do i consider that as insulting or sense of humour?:) [17:10] ramdac_: both [17:10] ramdac_: more like lack of googling on your end. [17:10] firebird619, yeah, and you wont make that error again any time soom [17:11] slackytude: that's for sure, and now, I also have my epson scanner working, so should something happen to the brother, I have a backup. [17:11] sry guys i know that you are right but i'm fed up with googling around [17:11] i googled alot today :P [17:12] not enough, apparently :( [17:12] flex those google muscles [17:12] I just entered "what opens .chm file" it is answered in the 4th result. :) [17:13] firebird619: that's not enough. you need to provide the link for him ;) [17:13] ok guys you are right i'm sorry i wont ask again [17:13] such questions [17:14] antler: Ah. I'll remember that next time. :) [17:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:15] ok guys enough i knew my fault :) [17:15] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:15] "and knowing is half the battle" --g.i. joe [17:16] Bart_S (n=Shan@5ED71986.cable.ziggo.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:19] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [17:20] hm.. this can't be good. one of my fans is starting to sound like a helicopter. [17:20] antler: I replace all the fans in my servers at least once every two years [17:20] yeah, i think that's good practice--they're relatively inexpensive [17:21] yeah, 100$ for the whole things [17:21] then it runs almost silent. [17:21] antler, have u tried to oil it with wd40 ? [17:21] unexpected downtime due to broken fan: priceless [17:22] jesus 100$ ? are the wires platinum? :P [17:22] thumbs: ^^ [17:22] lol [17:22] ramdac_ (n=ramdac@41.232.168.165) left irc: "Leaving" [17:22] antler: no, 100$ CAD [17:22] antler: I have 9 fans in my tower. [17:23] a hundred bucks for 9 fans?! [17:23] DeeeeP: going to try that now. i gotta be careful not to spray the ram [17:23] what a scam [17:23] I always get the high CFM fans, and high-current ones [17:23] antler, safer if u do that off the case [17:23] thumbs: well yeah. my cpu fan alone is about 80bucks [17:23] they last much longer. [17:23] DeeeeP: haha i was kidding. i thought you were as well :P [17:23] lol im not [17:24] if you fans use ball bearings , WD40 will do some good [17:24] remember, high current fans will run at ~60-70% of their rated current, therefore lasting longer. [17:24] DeeeeP: i think it's just a wire that's rubbing. i have seven fans; so i don't which is the culprit off hand [17:24] dislodged or damaged bearings cannot be fixed [17:25] damaged not [17:25] DeeeeP: and i'm too lazy to investigate. besides, the helicopter sound is quite soothing :P [17:25] the spheres need to be good [17:26] ok , then keep your heliport :) [17:26] heheh [17:26] is there any way to change the brightness of my laptop screen from the commandline in slackware? [17:26] actually, any sound fluctuation indicates rubbing, or a dislodged bearing. [17:26] both of which will cause more damage at some point [17:27] you don't want your case fan to jam in the middle of the night. [17:27] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:27] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [17:28] just got this enclosure recently: http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=MjM= love this big ass fan on top [17:28] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl7-82-103.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:28] show everyone that you are the ultimate master of all time with the Antec Nine Hundred! [17:29] Action: slackytude bows before antler, master of all time [17:29] slackytude: you're kidding, right? it was one of the cheaper ones i found [17:29] antler, can you come over and set my VCR clock? [17:29] its the text from the link [17:30] oh. and you've got bigger problems, if you still have a vcr :P [17:31] I still have a VCR [17:31] heh [17:31] bananagun (n=bananagu@adsl-220-230-251.bhm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:31] thumbs: betamax? :P [17:31] I have my high school tape we did in my closet. [17:31] then again, I haven't tried to play it in years. [17:32] it's probably dead by now. [17:32] slackytude: heh i just read that "master of all time...." [17:32] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.244.236) joined ##slackware. [17:33] jota-_ (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [17:34] thumbs: i would probably transfer that to hd .... it would suck if you couldn't watch that anymore [17:34] antler, impressive stuff. good marketing team there [17:34] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:34] antler: good idea [17:35] I have to find that capture card... [17:36] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.164.54) joined ##slackware. [17:39] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.10.168) left irc: "Leaving" [17:40] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.7.234) joined ##slackware. [17:43] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-148-165.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:44] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-168-230.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:49] how do I start a new X11 display in another terminal [17:50] startx -- :1 I think [17:53] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:54] riemann (n=riemann@41.221.18.213) joined ##slackware. [17:55] riemann (n=riemann@41.221.18.213) left irc: Client Quit [17:55] ejm (n=tux@208.98.172.28) joined ##slackware. [17:56] which version of h264 should I use? There's a 8.7.2 on linuxpackages.net and on the sourceforge page there's a 8.6.8 [17:57] I'm encoding videos for my ipod. [17:57] ejm: don't install anything EVER from linuxpackages.net [17:57] i'm using a divx encoder right now, but I'm not sure that ipods support divx [17:57] I would forget the one on LP even existed. [17:57] ejm: EVER. [17:57] wow, that's two so far. and that would explain why so many links have been damaged via LP. gtkpod is a good example. [17:58] ok cool, thanks for the advice. [17:58] linuxpackages.net blows [17:58] ejm: better yet, go to www.slackbuilds.org [17:58] why is that may I ask? [17:58] ejm: lack of testing for their packages. [17:59] ejm: meaning, it might blow up your installation, or work. There is no guarantee. [17:59] woah. ok, yeah. [17:59] vfw (n=vfw@173.5.74.211) joined ##slackware. [17:59] if you check out slackbuilds.org, be sure to visit sbopkg.org, too [17:59] slackbuilds.org ftw [18:00] How do I dissable or just tell extra nics to not quere the DHCP server. Or what is a way that makes sense...? [18:00] Blacklist? [18:02] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:03] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: [18:04] if I just edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and enter: use_DHCP "no" ? Will that speed things up? [18:04] vfw (n=vfw@173.5.74.211) left ##slackware. [18:04] vfw (n=vfw@173.5.74.211) joined ##slackware. [18:05] vfw: for sure it will [18:05] Looking for a way to speed things up a bit. I have 2 nics I'm not using now, only using wireless one. How about just USE_DHCP="no"? [18:05] in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [18:06] That make any sense? [18:06] ejm (n=tux@208.98.172.28) left irc: "Leaving" [18:08] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:10] vfw (n=vfw@173.5.74.211) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:14] Bart_S (n=Shan@5ED71986.cable.ziggo.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [18:16] mdeanda (n=root@cpe-76-170-16-43.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:16] hi all. i'm a bit stuck. i have a 1.5T hd that i'm trying to use on my minitx board but it only appears at 500g. i built my own kernel and i just installed slakcware12.2. any ideas? [18:18] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:20] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] Evilliksass (n=admin@64-71-25-50.static.wiline.com) left ##slackware. [18:21] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.10.168) joined ##slackware. [18:22] jota-_ (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:22] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [18:27] I rarely turn off my X because I hibernate all the time, but I've noticed that over time, the font grow a bit bigger. Anybody knows why that's happening? [18:28] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:30] mdeanda: unless there is some limitation in the bios a drive that size should not be an issue. check that first. [18:33] Dan-` (i=Dan@86.55.8.2) joined ##slackware. [18:33] TwinReverb (n=robert@211.180.33.19) joined ##slackware. [18:33] hmm what to use my old laptop for [18:34] andarius: how can i tell if its a bios issue? actually i vaguely remember partitioning it on that same machine.. but i might have ben through a usb enclosure. [18:34] explosives testing :o [18:34] nah that would be a waste [18:34] TwinReverb: you can install windows on it and let it explode that way? [18:34] mdeanda: go through the bios and the bios docs looking for anything. as long as it is relatively recent it should not be an issue [18:35] mdeanda, nah that would be horribly evil [18:35] also if you partitioned it via an enclosure you will have to check the docs for it and its chipset. i would hook it up directly and use fdisk of cfdisk [18:35] i want to do something useful with it lol :P [18:35] usefull would depend on how old it is [18:36] it's a pentium-M 1.5GHz w/ 1 GB RAM and 80 GB hard drive [18:36] http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb/linux/toshiba/toshiba.html [18:36] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:36] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-137-87.ip39.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [18:36] a toshiba... explosives testing [18:37] hahaha [18:37] i am/was using it as a linux demonstration platform [18:38] lostnhell (n=Unknown@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] well, now you can demonstrate sparks and fire with i t :) [18:39] still a nice laptop [18:40] media center? have it play video/audio stff [18:40] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) left irc: Success [18:43] hmm not a bad idea [18:44] gar0t0 (n=tiago@189-69-94-59.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:44] adrenaline: damn. ur right. my cheap miniitx board doesn't support it. i don't have the translated manuals.. they are typically pointless. but bios shows it at 500G. i think a 1T drive worked. [18:45] but it sucks b/c i also have a pci sata controller card.. and it does the same thing there. only 500g [18:45] ae [18:45] ops [18:45] do you know if a better card would make it work? [18:45] hi [18:45] wow gar0t0 those letters aren't even close to each other.. hehe.. at least on US keyboard [18:46] gar0t0: i guess if you count wrong hand. :) [18:47] gar0t0: Hello. How are you? [18:47] mdeanda: hehe, no! ae is used in Brazil, is "equal" hi [18:47] :D [18:47] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck_@bl7-82-103.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:47] firebird619: fine thks, and you? [18:47] gar0t0: cool. good to know. [18:48] another machine sucessfully upgraded to -current... [18:48] gar0t0: I'm great. Thank you. [18:48] i'm getting pretty good at this [18:48] LnxSlck: Yay. Good job. :) [18:48] firebird619, now everything is on -current [18:48] LnxSlck: Was that you laptop you upgraded now? [18:48] firebird619, yes [18:48] firebird619, first it was my desktop.. now my laptop [18:48] first try.. :) [18:48] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A75855.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:49] LnxSlck: Nice. It's always good to have a flawless, problem free upgrade. [18:49] yep [18:49] LnxSlck, that's kinda easy :) [18:49] DeeeeP, well i always got kernel panic [18:49] lol [18:49] slackpkg update , slackpkg install-new ; slackpkg upgrade-all [18:49] DeeeeP, thats not how i do it [18:49] nille_ (n=nille@c-5163e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:49] how u do ? [18:49] DeeeeP: He upgraded to -current. [18:50] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [18:50] so ? [18:50] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [18:50] slackpkg upgrades it too [18:50] nille_ (n=nille@c-5163e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [18:50] DeeeeP, i follow upgrade.txt [18:50] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:50] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:50] DeeeeP: It's a little different process, look at upgrade.txt in -current to get an idea. [18:50] where is it [18:51] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/UPGRADE.TXT [18:52] can see why is different [18:52] that results in the same set of packages , right ? [18:52] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:52] DeeeeP, a lot of changes [18:52] like what ? [18:52] the files *.new are not treated by slackpkg [18:53] doesn't run lilo or make initrd too [18:53] slackpkg runs lilo [18:53] is new kernel is installed [18:53] DeeeeP: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt <-- Here's the changes. [18:53] i've seen it [18:54] i've got those packages , im on current with slackpkg [18:55] i'm not saying that doesn't work.. i'm just saying that's not the best process [18:55] cant see why [18:55] its like upgrading packages [18:55] LnxSlck: Are your xfce icons weird on your laptop too? [18:56] so , the result is the same, but u got a lot of more work [18:56] firebird619, let me check [18:56] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:56] LnxSlck: I was just curious. [18:56] firebird619, yes.. on thunar [18:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:57] LnxSlck: Hmm, that is odd. [18:57] it's all about the themes [18:57] changing a .gtkrc-2.0 file i guess [18:57] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:57] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:58] LnxSlck: Yeah. I wouldn't think that would have happened on your desktop, that was a clean install wasn't it? [18:58] firebird619, no.. it was also an upgrade [18:59] LnxSlck: Oh, ok. Maybe from the old xfce 4.4.x stuff still being there. There was an issue with upgrading to 4.6 and icons missing, but I think that was resolved. [19:00] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:00] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [19:01] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.164.54) left irc: "Leaving" [19:01] firebird619, my problem is only in thunar [19:01] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [19:01] LnxSlck: Yeah, that's odd. [19:01] Greetings Programs [19:01] hello NyteOwl [19:01] NyteOwl: Greetings. How are you? [19:02] tired, sore, mildly bored :) [19:02] salutations user [19:02] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:02] NyteOwl: only mildly bored? :D [19:03] pacman87 (n=timothy@pool-173-57-39-82.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [19:03] firebird619: yes becasue I can almost always find something to do :) Working on a crypto puzzle at the moment [19:04] NyteOwl: Yeah, isn't that how it goes. You can always find something to do, but sometimes just don't want to do it. :) [19:04] heh too true [19:08] mikk0 (n=mikk01@YKCMLXXX.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Connection timed out [19:11] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [19:11] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:11] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:11] k1k0 (n=k1k0@20158150040.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:12] k1k0 (n=k1k0@20158150040.user.veloxzone.com.br) left ##slackware. [19:12] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:13] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:15] Why is it that in xfce, when I click shutdown, it asks me for my password? [19:15] thats weird. [19:15] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:15] mine doesn't [19:15] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.10.168) left irc: "Leaving" [19:15] has it always been that way? [19:16] lostnhell (n=Unknown@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:16] no [19:16] you can set up that using visudo [19:16] gar0t0_ (n=gar0t0@189-69-94-59.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:16] or something like that [19:16] and yes it was always like that since i can remember [19:16] WhiteMagic (n=WhiteMag@p549FF2BB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [19:17] agentc0re: Yes [19:17] Oh, i was talking to firebird619. sorry LnxSlck, i didn't know you had asked a question as well. [19:17] firebird619: if you create a new user and switch to that one and log off does the same thing happen? [19:18] agentc0re: I usually don't remember to ask about it until I shutdown and then I see it ask again and then I think oh, I should have asked about that. [19:18] agentc0re: No, I hadn't tried a new user, I can though. [19:19] do you guys like the new oxygen theme in kde? [19:19] LnxSlck, screenshot? [19:20] TwinReverb, it's the one that comes from default [19:20] firebird619: i would. maybe something in your user cache is screwed up. [19:20] agentc0re: Ok, will do. I'll let you know what happens. [19:20] LnxSlck, um not everyone has the new kde [19:21] oh [19:21] lol [19:21] wait [19:21] lee555J5 (n=lee@24-178-190-45.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [19:21] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-152-123.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:23] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-58-107.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:24] Heya,folks ( instead of the usual time of day or night greetings ) [19:24] generic time of day greeting to you too [19:24] hiya [19:25] INCLUDE GREETING.BAS [19:25] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-58-107.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [19:26] TwinReverb, http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8913/oxygen.jpg [19:27] agentc0re: As the new user, the shutdown, restart, etc. except for Log out is grayed out (disabled) I didn't think to also mention I have /etc/inittab as runlevel 4 to get graphical login. [19:27] alazif (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [19:27] Nick change: alazif -> jdee [19:28] LnxSlck, cool thanks [19:28] hi [19:29] is there anyone here who managed to make slack12.2 connect to a wireless ap with hidden ssid? [19:29] Action: TwinReverb raises his hand [19:29] MrDusty (n=dusty@88-105-98-217.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [19:29] i've been hacking around with it for two days now and i'm ready to dump my slack partition :`-| [19:30] TwinReverb, what card do you have? [19:30] jdee, have you installed wicd ? [19:30] jdee: what's the make and model of your wireless adapter? [19:30] intel 3945abg [19:30] same here [19:30] i've tried wicd - no success [19:30] iirc you can specify the AP manually using iwconfig [19:31] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:31] like by specifying the MAC of the WAP [19:31] well. i tried almost everything and supplicant just won't associate [19:32] specifying ap mac too [19:32] it's trying to associate with 00:00:... all the time [19:32] what didn't work with wicd ? [19:33] [19:33] thrice`, i enter ssid and the settings and it shows no networks, no connection [19:34] firebird619: Come to think of it, i did that once and noticed the same thing. I wonder if it's cuz xfce knows that another user is logged in? Assuming you switched to another tty to log the test user in. [19:34] jdee, "su -c ifconfig wlan0 up" [19:34] thing is that it worked in 12.1. and here i tried every setting of supplicant even changing firmwares and recompiled fresh kernel [19:34] i have that problem with mine sometimes, it shows nothing. turns out that this card's interface needs to be "up" before it can scan [19:34] agentc0re: Yeah I did that way first, but then I logged out of the user I use all the time, and the same thing happens. [19:34] hrm. [19:34] weird. [19:35] agentc0re: Yes, it sure is weird. [19:35] TwinReverb, it's shown in ifconfig output so i think it's up [19:35] agentc0re: It's not just with xfce 4.6 either, it happened before I upgraded to -current and 4.6 [19:35] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [19:35] is firebird619 part of the wheel group and is wheel setup in visudo to sudo without pw? [19:35] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:35] SlackLnx (n=caixa@85.139.11.179) joined ##slackware. [19:36] firebird619: maybe it's a 4.6 thing. [19:36] i tried setting essid and ap before and after starting supplicant..same thing [19:36] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [19:36] SlackLnx (n=caixa@85.139.11.179) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:36] agentc0re: I don't believe the user is in the wheel group. I know it's in audio, video, cdrom, plugdev, scanner, vboxusers. Should the user be in the wheel group as well. [19:36] anyway..can you show me part of your wpa_supplicant.conf? [19:37] my wpa_supplicant is totally stock [19:37] firebird619: are you in wheel? [19:37] SlackLnx (n=caixa@85.139.11.179) joined ##slackware. [19:37] specifically ap_scan and scan_ssis part :\ [19:37] Action: SlackLnx hi :) [19:37] agentc0re: I just checked with "id" and no, I'm not part of the wheel group. [19:37] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:37] TwinReverb, why? you use wicd? [19:38] heya,SlackLnx [19:38] SlackLnx: you like to use that /amsg, do you? [19:38] jdee, yes [19:38] jdee: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network#wpa_encryption [19:38] firebird619: did you setup your visudo with a different group or just yourself? Or did you not set it up at all? [19:39] agentc0re: Seeing as how I don't know what visudo is, I am going to guess I didn't set it up at all. :) [19:39] TwinReverb, and do you have your network in the list after you enter it in "connect to hidden ssid"? [19:39] agentc0re: How do I set that up? Do I need to? [19:39] i've never done it like that. what i do at that point is try to connect to it using the mac addres [19:39] s [19:39] firebird619: heh, okay. when i had the issue on my netbook that was the only difference i could think of but i just gave up cuz i didn't care enough. [19:40] although for what it's worth if it's hidden, they may also use other things like WEP, WPA, WPA2, etc [19:40] chopp, thanks, seen that [19:40] agentc0re: Yeah. I don't mind typing in the password that much, but I am just curious as to why it does that. Slackware is the only distro that has asked me for password when shutting down. [19:41] firebird619: It's so you can sudo commands. [19:41] firebird619: I'm checking my netbook now to see what groups i put myself in for 4.6 [19:41] agentc0re: Ok. [19:42] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:42] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:43] firebird619: wheel, audio, video, cdrom, messagebus, haldaemon, plugdev, power. [19:43] thumbs: yes :) [19:43] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:43] SlackLnx: it's annoying. [19:43] TwinReverb, how is that using mac? iwconfig wlan0 ap? [19:44] agentc0re: Ok. Is it a good idea that I am in those groups? I am already in audio, video, cdrom, and plugdev. [19:44] firebird619: Try power first. [19:44] agentc0re: Ok. [19:45] thumbs: ok i will not do any more [19:45] :) [19:46] riemann (n=riemann@41.221.27.245) joined ##slackware. [19:46] cfdisk (n=cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) joined ##slackware. [19:46] agentc0re: Ok, I am added. Can I just try shutting down now and see if it asks me, or do I have to log out and in again for it to take affect? [19:46] firebird619: my test user is working now since last time. He's not in wheel, mbus or hald groups. he is in power though. so i wonder if that's what worked for me. [19:46] firebird619: You'll need to log out and back in first. [19:46] agentc0re: Ok, I'll try that now and see what happens. Thanks for the help. [19:47] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. 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[19:50] add bootsplash to it [19:50] modify lilo [19:51] reboot [19:51] bootsplash work fine [19:51] boot not the system [19:51] i have this error in the end [19:51] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [19:51] riemann: you should really press the enter key less often [19:51] how did you create your mkinitrd? [19:51] /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off [19:52] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) left irc: Client Quit [19:52] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [19:52] mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.27.7 -m ext3 -f ext3 -r /dev/hda2 [19:53] i dont understand where is the error [19:54] unknow (n=unknow@201.194.46.86) joined ##slackware. [19:54] perhapse i make a mistake in kernel configuration ? [19:55] just out of curiosity, what does your GRUB line look like? [19:55] lilo you seems [19:55] oh wait [19:55] I'm sorry :-( [19:55] yes, lilo [19:56] image = /boot/bzImage-2.6.27.7.splash [19:56] initrd = /boot/initrd.gz [19:56] root = /dev/hda2 [19:56] Channel flood from riemann -- kicking [19:56] label = bootsplash_test read-only [19:56] riemann kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:57] LOL [19:57] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [19:57] I was gonna mention pastebin... but eh it's more fun this way ;) [19:57] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [19:57] riemann (n=riemann@41.221.27.245) joined ##slackware. [19:57] try using pastebin.com :) [19:57] riemann: http://n00bsys0p.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/slackware-bootsplash-howto/ [19:58] riemann: Did you follow that by chance? [19:58] yes [19:58] riemann: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/bootsplash-slackware-12.2-kernel-2.6.27.7-smp-704197/ [19:58] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:58] and this also ^^ [19:58] linuxquestion work better for me [19:59] Where did you get the bootspace pkg btw? did you build the package yourself? [19:59] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [19:59] no [19:59] err i should say the splash util. [19:59] http://www.jaguarlinux.com/pub/patches/bootsplash/ [19:59] What file do I edit to make sure NICs have persistent settings? [19:59] from linuxpaquage [20:00] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [20:00] udev something...? [20:00] riemann: Don't ever use linuxpackages.net or slacky.eu [20:00] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-137-87.ip39.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [20:00] riemann: That's probably why it's not working. Start over, and compile everything yourself. [20:01] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:02] I have a wireless card that is at eth2 and need it to be sure and stay there. [20:02] agentc0re: ok [20:03] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [20:03] I found it, I think... /udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [20:04] firebird619: Hey if you see rworkman tell him about the power group thing. I'm don't think that's right if you have to be in that group to shutdown. Something is amiss. [20:04] LikeVinyl (n=desdemon@200.125.76.26) joined ##slackware. [20:05] agentc0re: Ok, I will. [20:06] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-424991.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:06] riemann (n=riemann@41.221.27.245) left irc: "Leaving" [20:07] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [20:08] Camarade_Tux_ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [20:09] bbiab [20:09] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-152-123.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [20:09] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:10] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "Leaving." [20:12] I gotta love when people design pages that are only browseable with flash [20:12] pita is what it is [20:13] flash ftl [20:13] Action: NyteOwl debates buying webcam [20:13] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-97.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] get a logitech pro, nice cams [20:13] phrag: yes the 9000 is what I was looking at - on sale locally [20:13] yeah, they work perfectly with the uvc driver [20:13] Action: phrag is bit drunken =P [20:14] I like the cam, just not sure how much I'd use it - hence whether it's worth the expenditure [20:14] well the model below is nice too, decent res and like 40 dollars (25 GBP) [20:14] MrDusty (n=dusty@88-105-98-217.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:14] my family use them [20:15] i only really use it with skype for the family [20:15] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:15] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [20:16] only got it recently... never had one before, but glad i did [20:16] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:22] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "Leaving." [20:23] yeah skype is great for talking with the family [20:25] my family is still getting used to email. i introduced them to the CC field recently. they'll take a while to adjust to it [20:25] _stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [20:25] lol [20:26] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.57) left irc: "Leaving." [20:26] every outbound call I make from home is with an wireless headset/skype, and incoming calls are voip. [20:27] 'Today I signed up on one of those "cheater" dating sites- and ended up meeting my own girlfriend. FML' [20:27] lol [20:27] ouch [20:27] haha [20:27] lol [20:27] haha [20:27] as long as she was signed up first your ok. :P [20:28] hahaha [20:28] its not me :-P [20:28] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-152-123.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] Today, I heard my sister masturbating in her room. I took the dog around the block to get out of the house, and I came back to see her leaving her room... my electric toothbrush in her hand. FML [20:29] thanks for sharing that with us. :/ [20:29] yum? [20:29] acidchild: you might want to keep somethings to yourself [20:29] hahaha chopp its from www.fmylife.com [20:30] aceofspades19: i live on my own 1000's of miles away from my sister [20:30] they are quotes. [20:30] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] ahhh lol [20:31] can someone help me with this? [20:31] krusader: error while loading shared libraries: libkonq.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [20:31] i'm trying to run krusader [20:32] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [20:33] unknow (n=unknow@201.194.46.86) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:35] LnxSlck: ls /var/log/packages/kdebase* [20:35] /var/log/packages/kdebase-4.2.1-i486-1 /var/log/packages/kdebase-runtime-4.2.1-i486-1 /var/log/packages/kdebase-workspace-4.2.1-i486-2 [20:35] spiki, i just did an upgrade from 12.2 to -current.. maybe that has something to do :( [20:36] probably [20:36] spiki, how can i fix this? [20:37] Today, my daughter asked me when was the first time I had sex. After I told her 22 she quickly shouted, "Beat ya!" She's thirteen. FML [20:37] LOL thats fucked. [20:37] SpacePlod: ping (again) [20:37] wow [20:37] acidchild, for real? [20:38] hahaha seems so [20:38] acidchild: you're kidding...right? [20:38] its a quote from a website, not my daughter (i don't have one) but someone out there [20:38] :| [20:38] acidchild: get outta here [20:39] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:39] acidchild: ah. okay. then it is not so bad [20:39] FML = Fuck My Life [20:41] thats messed up! [20:41] thirteen :| [20:42] but being so open about it :| [20:42] Anyone here of that year old getting pregnant and about 7 blokes claiming there the father, youngest age 12? [20:42] acidchild: that quote is most likely fabricated. [20:42] 13* [20:42] frullet: yeah... [20:42] thumbs: why? [20:43] thumbs: i was 12 >.> [20:43] i would have never told my mother though! [20:43] dimmerbold: what's up? [20:43] MrDusty (n=dusty@88-105-98-217.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [20:43] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [20:44] HesitaTE (n=mathias@h59n6c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [20:44] hey...thanks for the help with that slackbuild it worked great. [20:44] we stayed like an hour after the class was over. Your name came up several times. [20:45] mostly good, but some pissed off people talking bout your slakware evangelism [20:46] pfft. not evengelism [20:46] ...at all. [20:46] still, it was good all in all. everyone learned alot. [20:47] yeah. he's a good speaker. [20:47] did you ever get slackware running on your Macbook? [20:48] nope. I'm too chicken. [20:48] lol. me 2. [20:49] I'm probably going to just give it a shot on the tower, since there's no real work on there. If I get the process down pat, then I'll move to the notebook. [20:49] SlackLnx (n=caixa@85.139.11.179) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:50] Unfortunately I need slingplayer and (at least) banshee for my latptop, so at a minimum it'll be dual boot. [20:50] giuppy (n=giuppy@host226-130-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: SendQ exceeded [20:50] there's not good solution for slingplayer on linux right now. [20:50] *no [20:50] vmware ftw [20:50] straterra: for slingplayer? [20:51] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck_@bl7-82-103.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:51] yes [20:51] slingplayer? is that for playing the movie Slingblade? :D [20:51] lol [20:51] mhm [20:51] like my french fried taters mhm [20:52] vmware seems like alot of overhead for a single app. [20:52] vmware isnt that much overhead [20:52] you could try wine [20:52] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqTWQiTlhKQ <-- Slingblade [20:53] wine fails. tried it [20:53] but vmware is an option [20:54] It's a macbook I'm running on, and I already have a locked down (HSPD-12) Win image running on it. So I wonder how having two VM's will work. [20:55] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-152-123.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [20:55] that scene never fails to make me laugh, its like he just landed from another planet and needed "somethin' or another to eat" [20:56] Especially since one of them will be for a single app (two, acutally). Everything else I need I can run fine on Slack [20:56] Yeah, I thought about running arch on my laptop for the same reason, but I can't stand pacman. [20:56] HesitaTE (n=mathias@h59n6c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving --"). [20:57] (the package manager, not the game) [20:57] HesitaTE (n=mathias@h59n6c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [20:57] SpacePlod: HSPD-12? [20:57] bbiab [20:57] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [20:58] HesitaTE (n=mathias@h59n6c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:58] dimmerbold: http://www.nextgov.com/the_basics/tb_20080610_8037.php [20:58] Think "lock down"...and you [20:58] HesitaTE (n=mathias@h59n6c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. 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[21:10] MrDusty (n=dusty@88-105-98-217.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:12] hi folks i have problems with usbs in vbox (not enable in my VM) i want to know if i must edit permissions file in udev? [21:12] ovnicraft: Are you using the vbox from slackbuilds.org or the one from virtualbox.org? [21:13] vbox.org [21:13] v2.1 [21:13] virtualbox OSE doesn't support usb AFAIK [21:13] the checks to enable the usb is not activated [21:13] ovnicraft: Yeah, I fixed it by adding a line to /etc/fstab. [21:13] aceofspades19: It doesn't, not yet anyway. [21:14] xVM version [21:14] firebird619, what line? [21:14] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:14] ovnicraft: none /proc/bus/usb usbfs auto,remount,devmode=0666,devgid=102 0 0 [21:15] ovnicraft: relplace 102 with whatever user id vboxusers has on your pc. [21:15] replace [21:17] ovnicraft: then, after you do that, you have to "mount none" [21:18] anrxc (n=anrxc@91.148.85.107) joined ##slackware. [21:18] anrxc (n=anrxc@91.148.85.107) left irc: Client Quit [21:19] mount tell no new line [21:19] ovnicraft: Yes, that means that in /etc/fstab, there needs to be a new blank line at the bottom of the file. It should have still mounted, so you could check if vbox has usb support now. [21:20] I really hate how KDE4 will retain focus to a window that's minimized. [21:20] ccfreak2k: that would be annoying indeed [21:20] ccfreak2k: can you tweak that? [21:20] hunter2 [21:20] I wish. [21:20] KDE4 has a lot less configurable options it seems. [21:20] that's better than opening a terminal taht doesn't have focus [21:20] antler: I beg to differ. [21:21] heh they're both annoying [21:21] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:22] firebird619, nothing :( the menu to set enable the usb is locked [21:23] ovnicraft: Hmm, you didn't get the OSE version of vbox from virtualbox.org, did you? [21:23] ovnicraft: I know that method works, I just did it myself yesterday. [21:24] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [21:25] i get xVM version [21:26] ovnicraft: In VBox, if you go to Help --> About VirtualBox, what does it say for Version? [21:26] lostnhell (n=Unknown@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:26] ovnicraft: which is what? since xVM is what virtualbox is called [21:27] i dont get OSE version [21:27] ovnicraft: When you went to try VBox after making those changes, you did exit VBox and start it again, right? [21:28] yes [21:28] I'm not sure what to do then, maybe someone else has other ideas. sorry. [21:29] holdmypocket_ (n=hold@user-0c9h89u.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [21:30] hi, running into a problem getting firefox to share the soundcard. if i watch a vid on youtube then try to play something in xmms it says something is blocking my soundcard [21:30] firebird619, thx for all [21:30] ovnicraft: np [21:31] in which version kde4 will be part? [21:31] is this just a problem with firefox? [21:31] ALVAN (n=briooo@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [21:32] ovnicraft: You might also consider reading the troubleshooting chapter in the VirtualBox manual. There is a section about USB in there. [21:32] firebird619, yes i am reading :) [21:32] ovnicraft: ok :) [21:32] ovnicraft: i think kde4 will be part of a version > 12.2 [21:33] mercfate (n=fate@201-75-74-122-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:33] hi [21:34] antler, don't you mean 12.3 or 13? [21:34] antler, really i hate kde4 i think that try to appears Window$ Vista... but... [21:34] antler was technically right he said > 12.2 as in a version greater than 12.2 [21:34] firebird619: heh [21:35] antler: :) [21:35] i have an usb can installed [21:35] ovnicraft: really? like vista? noooooo [21:35] how i can identify the device (/dev/?) [21:35] is /dev/video? [21:36] antler, :P [21:36] ovnicraft: Also, your a member of the vboxusers group aren't you. [21:36] my user are in vboxusers group [21:37] ok [21:37] antler, i am installing gsb [21:38] how i can identify the device (/dev/?) /dev/video? [21:38] Action: antler hires some thugs to beat up ovnicraft [21:38] mercfate, what device are you looking for? [21:39] [ in bed ] [21:39] antler, running away ! [21:40] webcam [21:40] i will configure zoneminder (camera circuit) [21:41] mercfate, have you tried unplugging it, pluggin it back in then checking /var/log/dmesg? [21:41] and i need know what is the webcam device [21:41] holdmypocket_ (n=hold@user-0c9h89u.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:41] no [21:41] i do it now [21:41] sec [21:41] mercfate, let the kernel tell you wer the new device was detected [21:41] right [21:42] antler: how did the ivtv/mythtv thing work out? [21:43] lostnhell, see you pvt [21:44] chopp: it's on hold :P i'll play with it when i'm feeling better. read your posts last night. i noticed that the problem you faced was that the driver / firmware wasn't loading. mine loads, but at the cost of x not starting. [21:44] mercfate, please restate the question. [21:45] chopp: i guess it's a boot into windows when i want the news ? :P [21:45] (boooooo) heheh [21:45] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [21:45] mercfate (n=fate@201-75-74-122-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [21:47] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-152-123.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [21:48] antler: I see. When I played with it, twas a few versions ago. I'll shut down my main box tomorrow, throw the hauppauge in and see what I get. [21:49] my house is M$ free [21:49] what's it doing out of your box in the first place? :P [21:49] chopp: mine too [21:50] well I since started rack mounting all my stuff. [21:50] just never installed it at that time. [21:51] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:51] me_ (n=me_@92.24.128.222) joined ##slackware. [21:51] holdmypocket_ (n=hold@24.152.161.62) joined ##slackware. [21:53] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [21:53] hey [21:54] this is me_ is that you [21:54] inspiron630 (n=aldskfj@c-24-10-229-142.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:55] pirvings (n=Talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:55] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [21:55] wat? [21:55] pirving (n=Talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:56] nothing, carry on [21:56] hahah [21:56] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:57] agentc0re1 (n=agentc0r@c-67-182-203-59.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.102.97) joined ##slackware. [21:57] agentc0re1 (n=agentc0r@c-67-182-203-59.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [21:57] is there a way for me to disable hardware acceleration in flash? it doesn't respond to the mouse.. but it responds to tab navigation.. i just can't uncheck the box [21:57] agentc0re1 (n=agentc0r@c-67-182-203-59.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:58] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-58-107.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:58] what the hell was the term for when AOL users came en force? eternal november or something? [21:58] eternal september [21:59] Ahhhh thanks :) [21:59] http://catb.org/jargon/html/S/September-that-never-ended.html [21:59] yep [21:59] :-D [21:59] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:00] aol users coming in force? [22:00] mostly pertains to newsgroups/Usenet [22:01] LinuxUsr721 (n=slack3r3@c-71-228-211-138.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:01] yeah - as college kids gained access in the fall of 93 [22:01] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:02] i kind of think of ubuntu gaining ground as the eternal september of the *nix world [22:02] YES!! [22:02] more info here: http://improve-usenet.org/ [22:02] and i'm working on a site to spoof all the ubuntards ;) [22:02] every god damn nubuntu problem is people trying to get msword to work [22:02] argghh.... firefox freezes when i try to watch youtube in fullscreen mode.. any ideas? [22:03] watch in small screen [22:03] heheh [22:03] update your flash player plugin [22:03] thx for that link danc3 [22:03] good stuff [22:03] yup [22:04] some good filtering info on that page if you're into newsreaders [22:05] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-94-59.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:06] i have flash player 10 r22.. is that not the latest? i've reinstalled twice [22:07] check it on adobe home page [22:07] i have that too [22:08] hmm, i need to find me somebody with a carfax/autocheck account [22:08] holdmypocket: are you using an accelerated X driver of any kind? [22:08] or just vesa? vesa might choke on full screen vid [22:09] mshade: i installed the latest nvidia drivers [22:10] interesting [22:10] i have a machine that'll play youtube no problem but chokes pretty hard on fullscreen -- it'll play them, but with lots of dropped frames [22:10] does firefox take 100% cpu when it freezes? [22:11] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-58-107.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:11] yeah [22:11] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [22:14] rworkman: ping [22:16] me_ (n=me_@92.24.128.222) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:17] cfdisk (n=cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:18] cuba (n=cubicka@84.19.44.65) joined ##slackware. [22:19] hey, where are the block files of network interfaces ? eth0 etc., [22:19] I can't find it anywhere [22:20] there aren't none [22:20] none ? [22:20] block files? [22:20] must be [22:20] nille__ (n=nille@c-5163e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [22:21] rc.inet1.conf i only know [22:21] cuba : can you even define 'block file'? [22:21] i think its a debian/ubuntu crap [22:21] that's the file which is pointed by file descriptor [22:21] what file descriptor? [22:21] you know, if you make a new virtual network interface, it's in /dev/net/ [22:22] guess what, there aren't such device nodes for eth0 [22:22] yes, device node :) [22:22] and they wouldn't be block type anyway [22:22] so, in linux , not everything is file then [22:23] char then ? [22:23] cuba : yes [22:23] but they have to be somewhere [22:23] cuba : why would they have to be 'somewhere'? just because you want them to exist? [22:23] how would they be pointed by programs [22:23] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189-69-94-59.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [22:24] who said programs use that method of creating network sockets? [22:28] so, let say, that the incoming packets are buffered into memory from the network adapter, processed with kernel in the protocol stack, and according to the port number they are send on particular sockets of apps...but what role does the interface play ? eth0 ? [22:31] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.102.97) left irc: "leaving" [22:32] it holds the IP of the adapter, does it have only symbolic meaning ? [22:33] so when I create some virtual interface, it has the device node, because it's practically an application which processes the data in user space [22:34] taskatech (n=root@75.143.165.1) joined ##slackware. [22:36] nille_ (n=nille@c-5163e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:37] leave [22:37] taskatech: no? [22:38] I amnew, still tryingto figure this all out [22:38] taskatech: type /part [22:39] tntslack (n=will@adsl9-26.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:39] and don't irc as root [22:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:39] taskatech (n=root@75.143.165.1) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [22:42] nille__ (n=nille@c-5163e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:44] cuba: "linux device drivers" (third edition, chapter 17) contains information on the networking subsystem, it says networking devices are the third device class besides char and block devices. I can't tell you much more than that because I haven't read that book yet, I'm working my way through "understanding the linux kernel" first. there is another one "understanding linux networking internals" that I have and will get to eventually [22:47] The Linux kernel is stable enough to write books about? 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[23:45] psychicist, thank you, good source [23:46] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [23:51] cuba (n=cubicka@84.19.44.65) left irc: "Leaving" [23:51] there's actually a site called ubuntard.com? excellent [23:51] inspiron630 (n=aldskfj@c-24-10-229-142.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: [23:51] Urchlay, oh man, the logo [23:52] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:52] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@c-68-35-253-65.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:53] heheh, yeah [23:55] heh, and look under the heading of "Recovery Programs"... lol [23:56] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.37.25) joined ##slackware. [23:56] haha [23:56] I have been known to call it "ubunturd" from time to time... [23:57] I like "noobuntu" [23:57] hah [23:57] this is my little creation, so if you guys have any ideas for posts / content, let me know ;) [23:57] i also own newbuntu.com and i think i'm just going to have it redirect to ubuntard.com [23:58] ROFL [23:58] LOL [23:58] danc3: thanks for the "eternal september" hint, it found its place on the about page [23:58] heh [23:59] grin [00:00] --- Sun Mar 22 2009