[00:00] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:00] http://snapshot.opera.com/webm/opera-10.54-21867-webm.i386.linux.tar.bz2 [00:00] dvel (~dvel@62.85.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [00:00] dvel (~dvel@62.85.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Changing host [00:00] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [00:00] i'll save the link and take a look when i update [00:00] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [00:00] anyone here know if it's possible to get pure-ftpd to show logins in the log files? [00:00] or in messages or syslog, even? 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[00:08] ezrafree, start by looking at this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/pure-ftpd-log-files-222918/ [00:08] hope it helps [00:10] thanks shonudo [00:11] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:12] that did in fact help [00:12] nice [00:12] it made me realize that the reason i wasn't seeing anything in /var/log/messages was that my "tail -f" session had frozen apparently lol [00:12] te_ (~te@74.113.242.6) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:12] nothing like a problem to find a problem [00:12] lol [00:13] :C i have no problems [00:13] lol [00:13] fhobia: that could be a problem [00:13] another day with slackware...nothing to report... :C [00:14] sure gets easier to configure over the years once you go through the process a couple times [00:15] shonudo, can you pastebin the install.sh from your opera package? [00:16] mancha, give me a sec [00:18] give me a site to paste to... [00:18] rc.. . . .. . .... . TWO?! [00:18] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:18] hey eviljames [00:18] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:18] mancha, give me a site to paste to [00:18] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-21.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:18] pastebin.com [00:19] shonudo: google.com/search?q-pastebin [00:19] ** q= [00:19] bikcmp: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=pastebin [00:20] you'll thank me for that link. [00:20] lol [00:20] thanks, eviljames [00:21] shonudo, actually better than that, can you pastebin the file structure of the opera package? i.e the output from cat /var/log/packages/opera* [00:21] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:21] shonudo: best website in the whole intarwebz [00:21] eviljames: hehe :) [00:22] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [00:23] shonudo, there are several tools to automate pastebinning from the command line, you should investigate [00:23] no luck pasting... do i need an account or similar? [00:23] miltux (~miltux@62.1.111.230.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:24] no luck pasting? [00:24] how is that possible [00:24] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/ [00:25] JackStoner (~ezekiel@203.121.25.61) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:25] well, i don't know whether it's possible or not, but i did it (or failed to do it) [00:25] Wdyy (~AndChat@117.136.26.136) joined ##slackware. [00:25] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/y7xxG763.html [00:25] shonudo, well i don't know what that means [00:25] JackStoner (~ezekiel@203.121.25.64) joined ##slackware. [00:25] try that [00:26] what is this now? opera's install script? [00:26] install.sh [00:27] hiptobecubic: yeah, for opera [00:27] can you pastebin.com the package file structure? "cat /var/log/packages/opera*" [00:27] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-68.fpscc.den.wayport.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:27] i'm running opera 10 as "testing"; i'll end up posting the old opera install if i go there [00:28] dammit james, knock off all that evil [00:28] i need a quick and dirty file structure shonudo iam going to install that snapshot i linked you [00:28] kingbeowulf (~kingbeowu@c-71-59-193-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:28] but i hate their install script so i am doing it commando style. i just need to see your package structure as installed on slack to give me an idea [00:28] After upgrade to slackware current, KDE the recent used application menu remains the same, never update. any ideas? [00:30] shonudo, back in 30, if you can pastebin that output please msg me so i can see it in scrollback [00:30] mancha, check this: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/crAkip88.html [00:30] that's for 9.50, but no matter [00:30] ah, that's perfect. thanks! [00:32] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:35] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [00:38] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:39] escaflown (~escaflown@S0106002275b651fe.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:39] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [00:41] I installed 13.0 then I put the current huge kernel in and then ran upgradepkg for the current firmware and modules, after rebooting I reran netconfig then I checked the rc.inet1.config which shows USE_DHCP[0]="yes", but when I reboot eth0 isn't coming up [00:41] I needed to install 2.6.33.4 because it supports my nic/wifi... [00:41] 2.6.29 doesn't, but I don't get why the dhcpd isn't kicking in [00:43] are the rc.inet1 scripts executable ? [00:43] you have rc.inet1 scripts? [00:43] why wouldn't they be, I didn't touch them [00:43] i'm jealous! [00:44] maybe I should run --- /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 INTERFACE_start [00:44] sure, you can do that [00:44] "why wouldn't they be?" are they on by default when you get to that stage in the setup ? [00:45] does slackware's pidgin have vv support? or do you have to rebuild it? [00:45] what do you mean are they on? [00:45] I installed Slack then all I've done is put in the current kernel, mods and firmware, nothing else has been change [00:45] are they checked in the dialog box [00:45] changed... [00:46] when I run /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 INTERFACE_start then I run ifconfig there is only lo, no eth0 [00:46] what dialog box? [00:46] the ncurses menu where you choose what daemons to start [00:46] you did /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 eth0_up ? [00:47] ok let me try that [00:47] yeah should of been in the dialog [00:47] you were trying "INTERFACE_start" ? [00:47] yea [00:48] ok I ran /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 eth0_up then ifconfig, still only lo [00:48] hmm [00:48] can I run that dialog startup box over to check it? [00:48] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Ping timeout: 271 seconds [00:48] hey, anyone has coffee?? [00:48] oh, no, you were right that it is executable, Xgates [00:49] since you were able to run /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 ... [00:49] k [00:49] Xgates, dumb question, but why is that not in rc.local? [00:49] what in rc.local? [00:49] (again, dumb question) [00:49] what would be in rc.local !? [00:49] the startup script and info for wireless [00:49] oh [00:50] if it is executable, shonudo , then it will be run automatically [00:50] thats why you don't have to put it in rc.local [00:50] got it; i did mention "dumb question", no? [00:50] by executable, i mean having the x bits in the permissions set [00:50] you don't have to say dumb question, shonudo [00:50] :3 [00:50] lol [00:50] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-126.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [00:50] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:51] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:51] I ran ls -l /rc.d yes they are all executable [00:51] Action: Xgates sees the Xs 'p [00:51] Xgates: it seems we don't have the right module installed for your card [00:51] otherwise we should at least see something show up in ifconfig [00:52] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [00:52] hey alisonken1noc, how do like all the correct modules for your hardware get modprobed without you having to set anything up ? [00:52] I have Atheros AR9285 [00:53] lol i have that too [00:53] and lsmod shows ath9k [00:53] ok...that is the right one [00:53] which I thought was my mod [00:53] i got that one too [00:53] thats wireless though [00:53] so you shouldn't expect that to be eth0 [00:53] in fact, that is wlan0 [00:53] try running "iwconfig" rather than "ifconfig" [00:53] does wlan0 show up ? [00:54] k [00:54] fhobia, it's a udev/hal thing [00:54] yeah [00:54] when udev/hal detect hardware, they have a list of what hardware matches which driver [00:54] ok here [00:54] errrr [00:55] so now you gotta uncomment the line further down in rc.inet1.conf that talk about wlan0 [00:55] rather than setting stuff up for eth0 [00:55] ok here's the thing if I installed 13.1 my eth0 works, now I thought it was coming from either the 2.6.33.4 firmware, modules, or kernel [00:55] wait what happened ? [00:55] it would work then with those installed in 13.0 [00:55] wait it doesn't work now? [00:55] i was asking questions and you went off on a tangent or something lol [00:56] eth0 isn't working and I want to get it to work [00:56] i just said that its not eth0 though [00:56] thats a wireless interface [00:56] I got that [00:56] its going to be wlan0 [00:56] yeah I got that [00:56] BUT as I said.... [00:56] fhobia, some wireless drivers are named ethX as well - depends on which driver it is [00:56] its not this one, because i have the same card as him [00:56] lol [00:56] in 13.1 it worked, so I thought I could just install the 2.6.33.4 kernel, firmware and modules and it was going to work in 13.0 I don't see why not [00:56] atheros? [00:57] AR9285 [00:57] Xgates, install as in use the kernel from 13.1 or install as in compile a new kernel? [00:57] I got the one from current [00:57] functionoverform (~functiono@adsl-99-141-206-127.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-current/kernels/ [00:57] if you're on 13.0 - DON'T use the kernel from -current [00:57] they're compiled using different versions of gcc and libs [00:58] why would it operate different in 13.0 ?? [00:58] I'm running it and it's working just fine [00:58] you would have to read up on kernel internals for that one [00:58] no worries... [00:58] there are subtle differences in internals that can cause problems that are hard to catch [00:58] the kernel doesn't use userspace libs, no problem there [00:58] but my understanding is the Atheros AR9285 gets the support from the latest kernel [00:59] is 13.1 still pretty buggy? [00:59] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:59] that is like impossible to answer, lol [00:59] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [00:59] for some people i am sure it is buggy but for my hardware it is not [00:59] oh i gotcha [00:59] Urchlay, it's not that the kernel doesn't use userspace stuff, it's the userspace stuff expecting the kernel to be a certain way [00:59] yeah i'm sticking with 13.0 for now [00:59] and the gcc problem is thus: if you ever decide to compile any extra kernel modules (like the ones for virtualbox), they must be compiled with the same gcc version that was used to compile the kernel [00:59] i do not think it is though, functionoverform, but then again i don't use kde or a lot of different software so [00:59] is there a 13.1? [01:00] no, there is a release candidate 2 for it [01:00] and that's dependent on the compiler and compiler optimizations - which changed in -current [01:00] but it is not officially released [01:00] i use kde [01:00] actually I know the Atheros support comes from the kernel because as soon as .31 came out my nic/wifi worked on other distros too but any distro running either .29/.30 they didn't work [01:00] well at least my wifi didn't [01:00] yeah, he's not saying otherwise [01:00] x3r0x (x3r0x@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [01:00] he's saying don't just installpkg the rc2 kernel into 13.0 [01:00] now its ok if you download the source and compile it [01:00] but its not ok if you are doing installpkg on it [01:00] Xgates, we're not disputing that the atheros driver was improved - it's using a -current kernel in 13.0 that may cause other issues [01:00] is what i believe he's trying to say [01:01] alisonken1noc: eh, vast majority of the time, you can upgrade kernels with no problems (was running 2.6.31.6-rt19 on 13.0, now running same kernel on 13.1rc2, no problems) [01:01] no I didn't installpkg a kernel it's been compiled already I just put bzImage in /boot :) [01:01] Urchlay, however - we know what we're doing :) [01:01] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-126.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:01] why are you trying to do this though... it just seems like you are causing yourself pain... [01:01] Urchlay, realtime? [01:01] lol [01:01] well I did nothing special that required knowing anything, other than "compile the kernel, make it bootable, boot it" :) [01:01] alisonken1noc: ok I'll keep an eye on it, thanks... [01:02] hiptobecubic: yeah. For audio recording [01:02] ok So how can I get my eth0 up and going it should be working [01:02] agreed, you folks do you know what you're doing.. i, on the other hand, know that everything works the way i want it, except those nvidia drivers which i've just completely given up on. [01:02] o_O why would it be eth0 !? [01:02] Urchlay, noticeably better? Have you done any tests? [01:02] was noticeably better when using crappy (onboard) audio to record my guitars [01:02] Urchlay, not the same issue if you compile the kernel, the subtleties of using the prebuild kernel package from -current with 13.0 is what I was talking to Xgates about [01:02] i guess you must be talking about the wired card which is not AR2895 anymore [01:02] fhobia: I don't want the wifi going at the moment I want to get my onboard nic, hence eth0 working :) [01:03] thats a different card though isn't it ? [01:03] AR2895 is only wireless ? no??? [01:03] using USB audio interface now, not tried with a non-rt-patched kernel (it may no longer be necessary, I dunno) [01:03] lol [01:03] because somehow i have a different card altogether for ethernet [01:03] that is not AR2895 [01:03] Urchlay, ah. Which interface did you end up getting? [01:03] maybe i got the bum end of the stick and didn't get the combination wireless + wired card or somethig [01:04] i guess it could be the same module though [01:04] a cheap one. Alesis Multimix 4 USB, mostly because the music store down the street had one for $80 and they let me bring in my laptop and mess with it before buying [01:04] Urchlay, nice [01:04] ahh ok I wasn't paying attention and if I do lspci the nic doesn't show up, now why wouldn't it show [01:04] hmmm [01:04] TriniTuX (clayton@cuscon124952.tstt.net.tt) left ##slackware. [01:05] of course you have the obligatory comment from one of the music store staff: "Why don't you just run windows?" [01:05] I don't get why the ethernet doesn't [01:05] show... [01:05] in lspci ? [01:05] yeah only the wireless is showing up [01:05] I wanted to ask him what instrument he played, if he'd said "guitar", I would have said "Why don't you just play drums?" [01:05] 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01) [01:06] 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. Atheros AR8132 / L1c Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev c0) [01:06] 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01) [01:06] 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. Atheros AR8132 / L1c Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev c0) [01:06] oh crap [01:06] i'm going to get kicked [01:06] LOL [01:06] thats what i have anyway [01:06] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-141-94.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [01:06] duplicated twice because touchpad is so sensitive [01:06] my ethernet controller won't show in lspci and I don't think it dies [01:06] died.... [01:07] Urchlay, :D [01:07] I was just using it earlier this afternoon, I hardly think it's dead it's a lappy, that's not that old, only a few months [01:07] thats weird... [01:07] hmm [01:07] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:07] Urchlay, i bought a line6 before i started using linux. It's extremely windows-only. :( [01:08] usb 2.0 interface? firewire? [01:08] TriniTuX (~clayton@cuscon124952.tstt.net.tt) joined ##slackware. [01:08] usb2 [01:08] afaict, there's no such thing as an open standard for USB 2.0 audio interfaces, they're *all* proprietary [01:08] The appeal was that it includes a rather massive array of line6's dsp [01:08] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:09] yeah, they got some fancy stuff [01:09] It was an alright setup. But they haven't ported anything to linux. I'm not even sure if there's a mac client [01:09] even the crappy little practice amps do a lot more effects than you'd think [01:10] It's really not bad for what it is. You could just use it and a laptop and gig [01:11] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:11] does slackware have any kind of touchscreen support? [01:11] i was checking out the new asus multitouch tablets [01:11] the kernel does, iirc [01:11] wouldn't take a laptop to a gig, they're far too fragile & hard to fix when they get banged around [01:12] a cheap old one would do fine [01:12] until it got beer spilled on it, or dropped & the keys fly all over the stage [01:12] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-68.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:12] guess if it's cheap enough, you just shrug and buy another [01:13] I've managed not to drop mine [01:13] A good trick is to put velcro on the bottom [01:13] :) [01:14] watch out afros... [01:14] anyway about the only effect I use on stage is an old autowah (since I play bass, not lead guitar, in the bands I'm in) [01:14] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [01:15] ah sure [01:15] Well anyway, bedtime. Night all [01:15] for recording, I record bass & guitar tracks dry, add ladspa/lv2 effects later [01:16] Urchlay, yeah that's the proper way, but when you're a novice and broke, it's not so bad to record the effects and just live with it [01:16] (but these recordings are just for the rest of the band to hear, not meant to be polished final product) [01:16] is this how you pay rent? [01:16] mancha, i wish [01:17] partly, not entirely [01:17] I work in a shit factory [01:17] Well, that's misleading. We don't manufacture feces [01:17] Well i do [01:17] But not for money [01:17] I was gonna say, most of us have our own built-in shit factories :) [01:17] NTU (~atom@unaffiliated/neo-the-user) joined ##slackware. [01:17] ah im so excited for slackware 13.1 [01:18] like the final dvd release [01:18] NTU, why's that? [01:18] functionoverform, just check what the drivers are for the touchscreen.... saw a cool app for them http://jukx.sourceforge.net/ bit of a hack for xmms2 [01:18] mancha: the live gigs do bring in a little income, not enough to live on (not yet?) [01:18] hiptobecubic, its complicated [01:18] NTU, fair enoug [01:18] everybody likes the smells of fresh wrapped dvds [01:18] bye all! [01:18] bye! [01:18] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [01:18] Action: Urchlay misses the smell of new audio cassettes [01:18] will do, i'm just wondering if i should even go there, i'm gonna get some sort of new laptop in august [01:18] fhobia: i bought twilight new moon for 30 bucks for my gf [01:18] :) [01:19] ex gf.. i should say [01:19] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [01:19] you did that to punish her? XD [01:19] nah shes 15. she likes it [01:19] :) [01:19] ehhh [01:19] Urchlay: dude im 17. [01:19] fair enough [01:19] Action: Urchlay is a dirty old man [01:20] its something we don't understand like hannah montana [01:20] Action: fhobia is medium old [01:20] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:20] im medium rare [01:20] a tad bloddy [01:20] :) [01:20] get those wounds looked at! [01:20] wrist scars? black eyeliner? [01:21] angry poetry? [01:21] i dont like those who cut themselves [01:21] fhobia: I'm dual boot and it's not showing up under Windows either, sheesh I was just using it yesterday, can't believe it died [01:21] nothing wrong with angry poetry, as long as it's not crappy poetry [01:21] Action: Xgates troubleshoots [01:21] i dont read [01:21] Xgates: that is weird...maybe gotta jiggle it or something lol [01:21] Action: NTU hasn't rad an actual book in like 4 years [01:21] try touching it lower [01:21] than before [01:21] you are disappointing, NTU [01:21] *red [01:21] you don't read, you don't cut yourself, what the hell do you do when you get bored? :) [01:21] that normally turns things on [01:21] not sure how else to say it [01:21] lol [01:22] he is just normal it seems [01:22] if you already reading something, it becomes red, yes? [01:22] *readed [01:22] read [01:22] read. [01:22] good lord [01:22] uh oh [01:22] we have a reddit reader [01:22] so after you finish the read, its still read? hmm [01:22] reddit haha [01:22] yes, you read a book until it's read [01:22] hehe [01:22] NTU: english is fun, no? [01:23] LSD' is more fun.. [01:23] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-141-94.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:23] than english, or reading, or 15 year old girls that have a thing for vampires with bad american accents [01:23] hhaahaahh!! [01:23] omg ur funny! [01:23] heh, when I was 17, there was nothing more fun than 15 year old girls, unless maybe it was 16 year old girls :) [01:23] zomg roflcakes! [01:24] Action: NTU likes roflcopter [01:24] what about lollerskates ? [01:24] ugh [01:24] fhobia,cakes? [01:24] haha.. this is getting out of hand [01:24] you kids get off my lawn! [01:24] r0f1m4o [01:24] Urchlay: "get off my lawn" -Moster House [01:25] Wdyy (~AndChat@117.136.26.136) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:25] actually, NTU is special [01:25] since he's in ##slackware [01:25] :3 [01:25] Wdyy (~AndChat@117.136.26.136) joined ##slackware. [01:25] "Dogs And Sailors Keep Off The Grass" <-- actual sign at a naval base housing area [01:25] alisonken1noc: the dogs are smart enough to read it? [01:25] (are the sailors?) [01:25] they're Navy dogs :) [01:26] Urchlay, it's a tossup :) [01:26] psh.. [01:26] judging by the people I've known who were in the navy... they probably could read just fine if they were sober [01:26] army FTW! [01:27] escaflown (~escaflown@S0106002275b651fe.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:27] actually.. blackwater > military [01:27] psh.. sobriety.. [01:27] they don't call it "drinking like a sailor" for nothing [01:27] so overrated [01:27] sailing or drinking? [01:27] swearing like a sailor [01:27] sobriet? [01:27] :) [01:27] NTU, brownwater -> Navy. First I heard of blackwater [01:28] sobriety* [01:28] NTU: yeah, my brother learned to do that when he was in [01:28] i can already drink [01:28] fhobia: well I only paid $200 for the laptop the wifi works, not sure I want to hassle sending it in for warranty work to get it fixed, but maybe I should hehe [01:28] so i'll fit right in [01:28] I can't believe the dang nic died [01:28] you got the shaft sir.. [01:28] functionoverform, when you can walk away after a quart of ron bacardi 151 plus a few beers, then let's talk [01:29] does stumbling and staggering count as "walking"? [01:29] Xgates: bizarre...nothing shows up in the windows device manager? any bios updates that might fix this? it was working right? so this is odd [01:29] i've driven about 200 miles with 2 bottles of vodka in me [01:29] i had to walk to the car.. [01:29] which was rough [01:29] guys im gunna go. [01:30] Urchlay, _any_ forward movement that doesn't end in *plonk* is considered *walking* [01:30] slack away! [01:30] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.39.97) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:30] that's straight alcohol poisoning [01:30] fhobia: yeah I was just using it yesterday but I ran that dang RC2 that was out, I can't imagine it caused hardware damage [01:30] Action: NTU slacks off [01:30] hmm [01:30] NTU (~atom@unaffiliated/neo-the-user) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:31] fhobia: first time I looked in the device manager nothing, then I clicked to add hardware and it blue screened on me, then when I restarted it there was now some virtual wifi entry added showing up, so not sure it was seeing this and then added it like that, but in lspci there is still nothing [01:32] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:32] yeah, i don't think you can screw up your hardware just by installing RC2 [01:32] how is gens-gs? [01:32] what is gens-gs? [01:32] is that some new fangled game console ? [01:32] seems weird ethernet of all things would die [01:32] lol [01:32] hey [01:32] yeah, that's pretty rough [01:32] did you accidentally press some key [01:32] gen is a genesis/mega drive emulator [01:32] that turned off the ethernet? [01:32] gens is [01:33] you know like some have fn + f1 to turn off wireless or something [01:33] but is there a linux version of that? i used to have it on my xp pc a few years ago [01:33] maybe you got some hardware key that knocks it off, Xgates [01:33] cause i have one here and i am not going to touch it now lol [01:33] is gens-gs cli? [01:33] Yeah, my Eee has something like that. You disable wifi with the keyboiard and it gets disabled in the BIOS. You either have to reenable it with the key or reboot and reenable it in the BIOS. [01:33] like gens? [01:34] oh wait, thats usually wireless...he's talking about wired, LSD` [01:34] figured i'd ask cuz it's DLing and i'm on dial-up [01:34] never mind, i was thinking of wireless again, Xgates [01:34] i'm sorry Cann0n [01:34] downloading on dial up is rough [01:34] yeah, but maybe check bios as LSD` suggested Xgates ... [01:34] Cann0n: no idea why you'd want something like an emulator to be CLI... [01:34] that doesn't even make sense [01:35] JackStoner (~ezekiel@203.121.25.64) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:35] like.. my favorite gens games are the early 90s hockey games [01:35] how would that work in cli [01:35] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [01:35] shitt.. i wish nobody would've said anything about that.. now i have to d/l gens and every genesis rom again. [01:35] LSD`: gens is cli based [01:36] thats what i'm used to but i figure i'll give gen-gs a whirl [01:36] oh, its an emulator [01:36] i remember genecyst :P [01:36] yes sir [01:36] oh snap... i forgot i had osmose installed [01:36] gunstar heroes ftw ? [01:37] woot! canceld DL [01:37] TriniTuX (clayton@cuscon124952.tstt.net.tt) left ##slackware. [01:37] To be honest, I mostly gave up on Gens years ago because the developer mostly stopped updating it [01:37] i can haz gunstar heroes ? [01:37] so many good genesis games.. [01:37] alkos333 (~alkos333@68-30-66-182.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [01:37] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [01:37] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:37] well, they stopped making sega games in like.. 1996 or something [01:37] troy (~troy@CPE001b1169ec48-CM0011e6ede8d0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:37] lol.. so it was only fair that he stopped 10 or so years later [01:38] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:38] functionoverform: That would be fine if it still worked :P [01:38] ohh.. it doesn't work? [01:38] now they have this new fangled sonic 4 that looks like sonic 1/2 ... [01:38] i'm sure it still works on xp [01:38] he used the xp word [01:38] i mean i didn't delete that until last year [01:38] shhh [01:39] genesis emulator is useful if only to play Zero Wing (All your base...) [01:39] functionoverform: I forget exactly what it was, but I knew there was some annoying issue with it that wasn't being fixed so I jumped ship to Kega [01:39] Kega eh? [01:39] sounds like a drinking game port of genesis [01:39] XD [01:39] like if you lose a game you have to drink [01:39] or it won't let you continue lol [01:39] drink a kega [01:40] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: grapping hooks to the kitchen [01:40] kega doesn't appear to exist for linux yo [01:40] functionoverform: never said it did [01:41] i'm just sayin man.. you got me all excited about a genesis emulator [01:41] sega genesis was my favorite thing ever when i was a kid [01:41] functionoverform: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=genesis&sv=13.0 [01:41] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [01:41] http://www.eidolons-inn.net/tiki-index.php?page=Kega <- There's a Linux build... [01:41] two of them there, one based on gens [01:41] yes! [01:42] good stuff [01:42] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:42] now i gotta find that package with every sega rom [01:43] hm, the kega linux download is closed source, statically linked binary [01:44] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.39.97) joined ##slackware. [01:45] it does seem to work [01:46] oh man [01:46] i'm about to fire up an addiction i've had since i was like 6 [01:47] :) [01:47] http://www.romnation.net/srv/roms/genesis/n.html [01:47] there's some roms [01:47] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:47] www.planetemu.net is 'nother site [01:48] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:49] merci [01:52] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:52] alkos333 (~alkos333@68-30-66-182.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:53] oh yes.. it is almost time [01:54] Urchlay you got any games going yet? [01:54] eh, not playing any of them right this minute [01:54] I have a few of them already: $ ls ~/genesis_roms/|wc -l [01:54] 342 [01:56] jesus [01:56] 342.. that's alot [01:56] and another dir elsewhere with 949 of them (those 342 are probably duplicated there) [01:57] I used to run a media box attached to my TV, actually play emulated games in the living room at my old place [01:58] mame, genesis, nes, super nes, atari 2600/5200/7800, I forget what all else [01:58] oh YES. [01:59] i am already playing NHL [01:59] actually do own all those consoles and tons of games, but damn, keeping 10-12 consoles hooked up all the time, plus all the games handy, that takes up a *lot* of space [01:59] i LOVE it [01:59] oh its true [01:59] i have all the genesis stuff in my closet [01:59] the genesis is faulty sometimes [01:59] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:59] and i have no idea where the rf switch for it is [02:00] don't really need it, do you? [02:01] the really annoying console is the original atari 5200: the rf switch is also the power supply (the RF output jack on the console, is also the power in jack!) [02:02] gross [02:03] ya know what i've got [02:03] a linux gens [02:03] and i'm not gonna be doing alot else for the next couple days [02:03] hahaha [02:03] i'm so glad this was brought up [02:03] gens-gs? [02:03] or the other one (generator-whatever, that's one of my slackbuilds, but I haven't actually played any games with it in a while) [02:05] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:06] Urchlay: combining power and RF isn't terribly difficult as on is AC and the other's DC. TV cameras do something similar, multiplex a zillion signals between the head and CCU - i9ncluding DC power - over a single triaxial cable [02:07] i used gens-gs, because i've used gens alot before [02:07] nothing personal dude, i'll check out your slackbuild though lol [02:07] and they don't invade eachother at all? [02:08] the signals i mean [02:08] functionoverform: they're all on different frequencies so all you need to seperate them out again is a series of filters [02:08] i guess if the frequencies are filtered on the ends it would work, yeah? [02:08] haha, i just thought of that [02:09] duh [02:09] trying to rock my NHL 96 over here [02:09] blackhawks vs redwings [02:09] with classic teams [02:09] gotta love it [02:10] LSD`: oh I know it's easy, electronically speaking, but it's a royal pain if, 15 years later, you decide to hook the thing up & can't find the original RF/power box that came with it [02:11] something like a genesis, you can buy a generic power supply at radio shack (or find one in your stash of them, if you're like me), and the RF can be connected straight to the TV if the box is missing [02:11] haha, soo true [02:12] (actually, as of 2 years ago, you could still buy a brand new replacement genesis power supply at this one game store that I think went out of business last year...) [02:13] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8DDC0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:13] kingbeowulf (~kingbeowu@c-71-59-193-120.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Landru! Guide us! [02:13] functionoverform: gens-ds is probably a better emulator, generator hasn't been actively developed in years [02:13] yeah, gens-ds is rockin pretty awesome right now [02:14] although federov just hammered one home to beat me in overtime [02:14] that was kinda rough [02:14] kega seems to be pretty good too, from the little I've played with it (but closed source, I hate closed source...) [02:14] yeah.. eff closed source [02:14] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:15] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:15] the weird thing about the genesis, it's probably the only system where most of the games are sports games [02:16] there are a couple pawn shops I used to go to that wouldn't take the sports games at all (they already had hundreds they couldn't get rid of) [02:17] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:17] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:25] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4246, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-04-10 03:32:29 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [02:27] psh, i love the sports games [02:27] namely hockey and socker [02:27] soccer* [02:27] lol [02:28] they were popular back in the day man, they're just the most fun genesis games i think [02:28] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:28] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [02:30] v4nelle (~van@79.107.202.55) joined ##slackware. [02:32] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:32] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-66-202.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [02:32] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539] [02:33] I really never liked sports games much [02:33] ariarat (~ariarat@unaffiliated/ariarat) joined ##slackware. [02:34] brainvision (~brainvisi@host29-15-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [02:34] eh, probly because of the annoying little superjock a-hole next door, when I was a kid. [02:34] 3 words. Tecmo Super Bowl. [02:34] revel0 (~revel0@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [02:36] which is what, the one with robots playing football, or am I misremembering? [02:37] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PBvOxicz-0 [02:38] ah, original NES [02:38] or is it? [02:38] Action: fiyawerx_ nods [02:39] Urchlay, think the one you're thinking of was Brutal Sports Football http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLB63Igu1bk played it on the Amiga [02:39] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:40] naw, not that one. I think the one I'm thinking of was an arcade game [02:42] probably my favorite arcade "sports" game was this one (except the video is of the genesis version): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeTXu1jPL4M [02:43] Nothing beats Speedball 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBP0Wqi1yTU [02:44] hm, is there a commodore 64 version of that? (much lower res, etc, but it looks familiar) [02:45] arcade sports, i spent -way- too much time playing nfl blitz, and nba jam [02:45] vincen_ (~chatzilla@222.70.17.84) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.4/20100513144105] [02:46] Urchlay, Amiga...motorola 68000....had to "patch" it to play on my 68020 [02:46] to the point where a few friends and I had actually printed "cards" up with a logo on them, I guess it was sort of an arcade clan, haha, never thought of it like that [02:46] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:47] does ballblazer count as a sports game? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qri5xavBdh4 (skip the first minute, the guy recorded the damn loading screen...) [02:47] now i'm itching to play smashtv [02:48] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:49] MLanden: I meant "speedball 2", thought maybe there was a "speedball 1" for the 64 that I've played before [02:49] Urchlay, could of been [02:50] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:51] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [02:51] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [02:51] OOH man [02:51] so i just found nhl94.com [02:51] it has updated roster roms [02:51] hahaha [02:51] for nhl 94 [02:52] JackStoner (~ezekiel@203.121.25.63) joined ##slackware. [02:52] and they have online leagues [02:55] wow, did zsh tab completion for "umount" just complete to my mounted flash stick? that is sick! [02:55] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426411.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:56] zsh is magic [02:57] hrmm, the webm opera requires a newer glibc [03:00] cool! webm already! [03:01] yep, opera, ff, and chromium! [03:01] it's labs version though, maybe something will change in final relese [03:01] briareus (~briareus@ip68-98-234-158.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [03:01] briareus (~briareus@ip68-98-234-158.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [03:01] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [03:01] mancha: and IE9 [03:02] ie doesn't count [03:02] you have to get a separate plugin :/ jerks! [03:02] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:03] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [03:03] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [03:04] which will come with next Windows Update? [03:04] oh, then carry on [03:05] ;) [03:05] 8) [03:05] Well, I dunno myself but I imagine that's possible [03:05] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Client Quit [03:05] the funny thing is that Ubuntu paid for h264. and now webm gets released, lol [03:06] i think thats ok [03:06] not been liking too much I've read about webm/vp8 [03:06] i thought the same way, but mancha had a point so we'll just have to see what happens [03:07] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:07] slava_dp: eat that! succers... Cannanical seems as less and less Free Software company lately [03:07] can't complain much when you are on linux either [03:07] mostly my experience with "reading" has been this article - http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=377 [03:07] we should just be happy that it will work [03:07] yeah [03:07] yeah, thats everybodys experience [03:08] fiyawerx_, that would be biased towards h264. [03:08] if you just keep slogging away and keep improving it...maybe you can get somewhere eventually and have something special [03:08] gotta have some hope [03:08] fiyawerx_ you're person #2 who says this and cites the same fucking webpage :) [03:08] we need some independent analysis.... [03:09] there's like one webpage from a guy who clearly has a vested interest in x264 against, well lesse, google+mozilla+opera ? [03:09] reading coders at work one of the guys said ...you have to ship something shitty in order to gain market share ..so you have a chance to rewrite it :P [03:09] ther's the question whether we want a perfect codec with a lots of patents and trolls or good enugh codec with no patents [03:09] yeah, but its also not like he just said "it sucks, trust me" [03:09] i've viewed several vp8 vids, they rock [03:09] its not bad if you look at the picture [03:09] people were like OMG the pictures are so different [03:09] i don't think its that bad [03:10] i mean i guess i'm no videophile [03:10] but whatever [03:10] for the record folks, i'm currently playing nhl 94: 2010 edition [03:10] thanks functionoverform lol [03:10] we can't keep posting the same url to speak poorly of vp8 [03:10] you all need to see this if you like hockey [03:10] i am thrilled for the playoff game tomorrow.. the blackhawks are pwning the sharks so far [03:10] can we come over to your house ? [03:11] this url was posted on ##slackware several days ago and keeps getting recycled: http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=377 [03:11] haha, you can d/l gens and i'll link you to the rom [03:11] pfff forget it then [03:11] but i'll be at the bar for the game [03:11] XD [03:14] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-66-243-238-36.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:14] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:15] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [03:15] fiyawerx_ don't get me wrong, maybe it's a valid analysis. or he makes some valid points. but the fact that google/mozilla/opera back it makes you think there's something to it [03:15] google and mozilla aren't in teh business of backing failures [03:17] yeah, i just hope people keep an objective mindset about it all, and not just suck it down because of -who- is backing it [03:17] hopefully it does work out [03:20] lol vp8 fanboys? XD [03:20] brainvision (~brainvisi@host29-15-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:20] how is orkut doing these days, anyway? [03:20] Action: fiyawerx_ keeds. [03:21] orkut? what's it about, I failed to understand. [03:22] google's attempt at being like facebook / myspace [03:24] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [03:24] I fail to understand facebook/myspace too, so, I guess..... :) [03:24] Tabstar (terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) joined ##slackware. [03:24] Action: slava_dp is a jabber/irc/icq/email guy. [03:24] wertik_ (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [03:25] Tabmow (terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:25] icq... [03:26] _marc` (~marc@i577B6FC4.versanet.de) joined ##slackware. [03:26] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[03:29] functionoverform, pretty wild..they did a good job of the update(NHL '94->2010) [03:29] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:29] oh i know man [03:29] its amazing [03:30] i'm playing the playoff [03:30] s [03:30] lw0x15_ (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:30] first round blackhawks against predators... so fun [03:30] well for those of you who wanna test it, i've been using the development build of ff for several hours now [03:30] it is stable for regular stuff and it has the html5/vp8 codec included [03:30] lw0x15 (~izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [03:31] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [03:31] Wdyy (~AndChat@117.136.26.136) left irc: Quit: Bye [03:32] not sure how bored anyone is, but if you're looking for some noobfarm content, follow clint- around, i've seen him in like 4 linux channels so far.. and I think he forgot his meds. It's like a car wreck I can't stop following him around just to watch what he says [03:32] karuna_ (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:32] roooofffl [03:33] err excuse me [03:33] Action: fhobia should not laugh [03:33] fuzzix_ (~fuzzix@93.107.27.132) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:33] its gone from google/youtube is hacking him, to a new sonicwall he bought, to I took data entry back in my FReshman year at Limestone Highschool, in Bartonville, IL [03:33] thats why he types so much, because 80wpm is too fast [03:34] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-21.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [03:34] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:34] brainvision (~brainvisi@host232-14-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:34] he doesn't seem to be on any channels anymore [03:34] fuzzix (~fuzzix@93.107.218.193) joined ##slackware. [03:34] did not see him associated with a channel. [03:34] lol [03:34] he's got a fan club now [03:35] got yelled at in about 3 lines in fedora, lasted a while in #ubuntu, and now in #suse [03:35] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [03:35] i just asked him if he's ever tried slackware... [03:35] lol....maybe Art Bell's on vacation [03:35] ok, found him [03:35] watching [03:36] Tabstar (terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:36] trying to get him to join ##slackware? [03:36] we already have wario_ [03:36] didnt quite come out and say it, but it'd be funny [03:37] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.189) joined ##slackware. [03:37] is wario schizo? [03:37] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:38] Tabmow (terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) joined ##slackware. [03:41] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B580E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:41] aha! chromium renders vp8 youtube too! [03:41] falling asleep watching this guy, fiyawerx_ [03:41] i want the last 10 minutes of my life back [03:41] rofl [03:41] yeah, its no fun when someone is actually talkign back to him [03:42] XD [03:42] i can't stop watching though [03:42] its like when you see someone you know isn't slowing down enough to stop at a red light [03:43] gotta get him going on the google thing again [03:43] here he goes [03:44] he's switching on the afterburners [03:44] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-66-202.gwi.net) left irc: Quit: WeeChat-0.3.1.1 [03:44] pew pew pew! [03:44] hopefully,he's not one of 'em who'll could come unhinged seeing that there's no init.d if he tried slackware [03:44] the best part is, he'll keep going like that even if nobody responds [03:45] heya MLanden [03:45] heya,fire|bird...how's it going? [03:46] MLanden, going good, thanks. you? [03:46] goin' good as well thanks [03:47] cteg (~heretic@dyndsl-085-016-203-027.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [03:47] zux_ (~zux@80.81.42.3) joined ##slackware. [03:47] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:50] maybe im just overtired, but im really amused [03:50] obnauticus (~obnauticu@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [03:50] i'm still watching, fiyawerx_ [03:51] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:53] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [03:54] ... [03:54] i told you, he doesn't stop [03:54] please do not invite him here [03:54] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [03:54] ......... XD [03:54] hah [03:54] lol [03:55] ok, i stopped [03:55] i couldn't take it [03:56] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) left irc: Quit: velusip [03:56] im giving him 5 more mins before I go to bed [03:56] you guys are going to hell for teasing the brain damaged [03:56] well, he seems talented [03:56] i hope they don't force me to use suse in hell [03:57] hell runs windows [03:57] that ain't bad man [03:57] you can play games and stuff [03:57] the #fedora part was the best.. " can I ask a general question.. eh [03:57] "general" Absolutely not." * clint- (~clint@pdpc/supporter/active/clint-) has left #fedora [03:57] livinded (~livinded@pool-173-55-27-237.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:58] they might make the damned souls run windows, but I bet satan himself runs something solid (can't have the servers crashing and corrupting your database of the damned) [03:58] satan probably runs freebsd [03:58] he probably uses macs [03:58] or solaris [03:58] was gonna say osx [03:58] jhw: yeah, satan runs freebsd, and he forces the users to run ME [03:58] I bet he hates the cute devil logo... "They're disrespecting My power!" [03:58] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [03:59] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [03:59] I bet Poseidon runs OpenBSD. [03:59] Urchlay: he *made* the cute devil logo...to entice more to his side [04:00] well, at least i'll be able to play starcraft 2 in hell if he uses windows [04:00] nope [04:00] apparently wine runs SC2 well [04:00] i hope it works on wine . . . [04:00] you won't be able to get it to install due to DLL hell, or scratched CD, or something [04:00] that would be awesome [04:00] gogie (~paulnamua@222.127.248.89) joined ##slackware. [04:01] fhobia: nope... [04:01] damn, i can see him scratching my sc2 cd and me crying [04:01] it does... heck, wine ran SC2 perfectly 10 years ago [04:01] Nick change: phrag_ -> phrag [04:01] heh [04:01] gogie (~paulnamua@222.127.248.89) left irc: Changing host [04:01] gogie (~paulnamua@unaffiliated/gogie) joined ##slackware. [04:01] Action: fiyawerx_ loved star control 2 [04:01] sc1 you mean, Urchlay [04:01] oh man, not star control folks [04:01] lol [04:01] sorry, yeah [04:01] fhobia: he'd scratch the cd and give you a corrupted license key [04:01] starcraft 1 [04:01] you want star control 2, look up "uqm" on slackbuilds.org [04:01] what a jerk, jewbacca [04:02] brainvision (~brainvisi@host232-14-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [04:02] fhobia: he is the literal prince of darkness...what do you expect? [04:02] thought he was sensitive like in south park [04:02] fhobia: nope [04:02] is there a way to perform unattended installs with slackware? I'm currently working on creating tagfiles, but I was wondering if it's possible to setup automatic partitioning and remove the need for navagating the menus manually [04:03] you can mount the cd and just do installpkg **/*.(tgz|txz) or something [04:03] automate the stuff like partitioning and such [04:03] livinded: not with the slackware installer [04:04] dance with lilo.conf [04:04] livinded: you're stuck with menus until you get the package installation started [04:04] brainvision (~brainvisi@host59-10-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:04] and then again after package installation finishes [04:04] fdisk doesn't take a HERE file :3 ? [04:05] a heredoc, you meant [04:05] it should... but you probably would rather use sfdisk for automated partitioning [04:05] w0o0o0p [04:05] Urchlay, alienBOB uses fdisk heredoc in his usb install script. [04:05] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:06] so it does work [04:06] I kinda like sfdisk anyway [04:06] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [04:06] sfdisk is good for cloning the partition table [04:06] whoa, never seen sfdisk before [04:06] well, you can generate your own input file for sfdisk [04:07] phrag (~phrag@217.10.145.3) left irc: Changing host [04:07] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [04:07] sfdisk is a truelly hackish tool... it's the only thing that helped me reset a corrupted table once. fdisk and cfdisk somehow miserably failed. [04:07] phrag (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [04:07] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [04:08] weird [04:08] slava_dp: the perfect too for what I'm doing then :D [04:08] yeh sorry, Starcraft 2, released next friday =) [04:08] livinded: if you're trying to do automated installs, look into using rsync or plain old tar or dd [04:08] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [04:08] phrag: you going to play on linux ? [04:08] need it to work with wine, i'm not installing wintendo [04:08] phrag: whoa, that's been in development for what, 10 years now? [04:08] wintendo ? lol [04:09] fhobia: yes, i will put all my effort into it [04:09] Urchlay: at least! =P [04:09] phrag: man, ok, awesome, i will ask you sometime again [04:09] Urchlay: using rsync, tar, or dd how? [04:09] gotta get a new computer though... [04:09] these hamsters are not going to be able to run fast enough [04:09] we should get a Slacker team together! 8o) [04:09] JackStoner (~ezekiel@203.121.25.63) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:09] lol [04:10] im well up for that =) [04:10] i suck man [04:10] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B580E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:10] lol [04:10] me too =P [04:10] probably like 10 APM [04:10] JackStoner (~ezekiel@203.121.25.62) joined ##slackware. [04:10] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B580E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:10] i'll leave in the middle of the game to go eat lunch and come back [04:10] rofl [04:10] livinded: stick the hard drive you want to install to, into a USB caddy or something. Then copy the contents of an installed Slackware system to it. The only slightly-difficult part will be running lilo to make it bootable. [04:11] yeah ok, but i'll play [04:11] :3 [04:11] if you have a bunch of drives that are the same size, you could do an install to one of them, then dd the entire drive's contents to all the other drives (would include the bootloader: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sde or whatever) [04:11] Urchlay: that's not really going to work for what I need to do. I'm trying to build a gold master vm image and I'm trying to basically automate the building process of it [04:11] the dirty laundry comes out [04:12] so I can just boot up a new vm and have it build itself [04:12] eh, why not just cp the old vm image file? [04:12] can you just clone the existing vm? [04:12] Urchlay: that's the point, but I want an automated build process so if I want to change something I can change it in a config file and have it rebuild itself [04:13] Nick change: BadAtom_ -> Badatom [04:13] Badatom (~epigramma@badatom.org) left irc: Changing host [04:13] Badatom (~epigramma@supporter/active/BadAtom) joined ##slackware. [04:13] then once it builds a new gold master just cp that to all the new machines [04:13] ok. Does it need to work like an installer? [04:13] not really [04:14] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:14] I mean, what if you mount the image on /mnt/build on the build host, then use 'ROOT=/mnt/build installpkg whatever*' [04:14] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [04:14] ex-squeeze me, i had forgotten why i hated closed source shops [04:14] mancha: bit in the arse again? [04:14] opera, the evil crapfest that it is, only runs on newest glibc (at least their dev snapshot) [04:15] yay [04:15] haven't touched opera since v5.0 [04:15] (and that was with the ad-removal crack) [04:15] otoh, latest nightly of chromium runs great and plays vp8 to boot! [04:16] referring to build 47895 [04:16] do you need gconf and other gnome stuff ? [04:16] me, I'm waiting for the dust to settle on the video codec stuff [04:17] it's settled [04:17] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [04:17] really? thought the debate was still going on [04:17] whatever youtube goes with will determine the codec [04:17] fair enough [04:17] JackStoner (~ezekiel@203.121.25.62) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:17] they're 80%+ of the online video supply [04:17] have they announced that they're going to vp8 or something? [04:17] whom? [04:18] fhobia: think gconf is a dep, yes [04:18] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:18] i'm sure i've installed it before without tho [04:18] yep, they are providing vp8 in their html5 migration [04:18] thats cool, the sooner we get rid of flash the better [04:19] silverlight needs to go first [04:19] i am watching vp8 youtube vids now. it is great [04:19] true, flash video sucks. [04:19] my cpu doesn't shoot up to 85% usage and stuff [04:19] mancha, how fast is it? faster than flash? [04:19] and i watch in near HD quality [04:19] Skywise: i've not come across much silverlight stuff [04:19] mancha: thats cool was gonna try it out but had other things todo [04:19] did that ever take off ? [04:19] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:19] slava_dp, fast in what sense? [04:20] damn, silverlight [04:20] well you know ms, they try to corner the market with the big dogs and then herd the little guys afterwards [04:20] less resource intensive? [04:20] msft introducing fragmentation at its best [04:20] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [04:20] so almost all the live sports use silverlight [04:20] exactly [04:20] yeah, less cpu intensive, definitely [04:20] honestly, my main concern is "how hard is it to keep a copy of the content?" [04:21] i am playing HD vp8 youtube content now and my cpu doesn't go over 41% [04:21] its part of the cloud dude [04:21] you don't need a copy [04:21] the cloud is stable man [04:21] lol [04:21] with flash it would be at 90% [04:21] old-fashioned I guess, but anything I watch that I really like, I'd like to keep a local copy (perhaps to watch on the TV even) [04:21] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [04:21] mancha, how much content is available in vp8 now? [04:21] yeh, ihave a plethra of backup movies and single player games in case the internet ever dies =P [04:21] and if it's music, I *need* to be able to rip the audio (to put on a CD, to hand to my drummer and say "learn this") [04:22] seems like a lot! [04:22] brainvision (~brainvisi@host59-10-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:22] go to youtube and append &webm=1 to your search query [04:22] mancha: did you try the firfox build? [04:22] all those are vp8 [04:22] firefox doesnt support vp8 yet, right? [04:22] heh, the singer in my band, had me doing something probably nobody on the planet would consider: hook a tape player up to the laptop, record youtube's audio on cassette [04:22] they have a nightly build [04:22] yep, i am on ff 3.7a4webm [04:23] ooh, build scripts work with that? [04:23] phrag: if the internet ever dies, you always have shortwave radio ip [04:23] [OpenSys] (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [04:23] phrag it does, the dev build i just mentioned. [04:23] ugh, the FCC won't let you use encryption on ham radio [04:23] sweet, think i will build that [04:23] Urchlay: same in UK? [04:23] Urchlay: it makes sense [04:23] pretty much killed any interest I had in packet radio [04:24] phrag: I dunno, I'm talking about the US only [04:24] phrag: http://nightly.mozilla.org/webm/ [04:24] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [04:24] jewbacca: eh, I don't see why everything has to be so damn regulated anyway [04:24] "in the UK it is illegal to transmit encrypted data by radio" [04:24] Urchlay: i mean taping youtube audio [04:24] meh [04:24] oh [04:24] mancha: cool =) [04:25] Urchlay, how come, no encryption? can't you just do it and not ask anyone's permission? [04:25] jewbacca: I don't see the point of him using tapes [04:25] can you transmit encoded data? [04:25] Urchlay: if your auto has a tape deck, it would be most efficient to use the tape between practice and home [04:25] slava_dp: the FCC will triangulate your position and send someone out to yell at you [04:26] jewbacca: his car doesn't have a tape deck. He insists on using a 20+ year old tape deck (plugged into the PA), when he owns a perfectly good CD player and an mp3 player [04:26] i've sent crypted text on morse [04:26] Urchlay: singers are iffy [04:26] Urchlay: and they are usually eclectic [04:26] eh, this guy is just old [04:27] Urchlay: *how* old [04:27] good singer & all, but he's 56 [04:27] Urchlay: what style music? [04:27] (even I think 56 is pretty old) [04:27] will they come get you if you send a jpg with a secret encoded over ham radio? [04:27] originally we were doing "classic rock" (mostly 70s). I've been trying to drag him forward into at least the 1990s [04:27] interesting, chromium uses more cpu to play the same vp8 vid than ff hrmmm [04:28] the 90s? [04:28] sublime, puddle of mud, jane's addiction [04:28] gnugr (~gnugr.org@athedsl-211438.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [04:28] early 80s is about as modern as anyone needs [04:28] heh [04:28] Urchlay: your singer is too old for that stuff [04:28] gnugr (~gnugr.org@athedsl-211438.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:29] Urchlay: either get a younger singer or live in the 70s [04:29] i think the peak of music happend from like 78 to 82 [04:29] I guarantee you, if your band learns to play "What I Got" and plays it to a crowd of 25-35 year olds, they will dance and sing along and have a damn good time [04:29] Skywise: try 67-73 [04:29] nah, that was ok tho [04:29] i'd give it 2nd [04:29] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:29] Skywise: i see that as a higher peak in music, tbh [04:30] Skywise: that's where blues met 'hard' rock [04:30] beatles weren't even active anymore in 1978, were they? [04:30] (like 'em or not, you have to include the beatles) [04:30] Urchlay: i don't think they were [04:30] no, and you didn't have the mega bands so much in the later 70s [04:30] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [04:30] but it was still artistic [04:31] eh, I don't care that the beatles were a "mega band", I care that they made original & interesting music [04:31] brainvision (~brainvisi@host137-74-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:31] (so did black sabbath, at least on the first 2 or 3 albums) [04:31] Skywise: but by the late 70s, the band i consider the greatest of rock history was winding down [04:31] sure they were, they were the original pop music [04:32] but those 2 periods are linked, i think the earlier were simpler and more primitive [04:32] lot of stuff on beatles albums that would never have made it on pop radio [04:32] but the beatles were unique in the scope of their music [04:32] Skywise: the simpler was, imho, better [04:32] Action: slava_dp just learned about Dio's death :-o [04:33] take rubber soul for instance [04:33] slava_dp: that happened a few weeks ago [04:33] i think every song on that was a top 40 hit [04:33] in the late 70s, you had plastic ono band...yick [04:33] lol [04:33] she's entirely the beatles fault [04:34] the end of the 60s, you had jimi...you had page, plant, jones, and bonham [04:34] hmmmm....good 'ole screeching...gotta love Ono....:) [04:35] in the late 70s you had wings, sweet, queen, steely dan [04:35] trouble with old music is, memory is selective [04:36] if you could jump in your TARDIS and travel back to 1967, listen to the radio for a few hours, you'd find that 90% of it was crap, just like the new stuff you hear today [04:36] but no matter what kinda of music you like, autotune sucks [04:37] i like to get those time life best of collections [04:37] i also have the billboard top 100 from 1960 to 2000 [04:37] Urchlay: agreed, 90% of everything was crap [04:38] true,Urchlay....Middle Of The Road's Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep would definitely be waitin' there [04:38] brainvision (~brainvisi@host137-74-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [04:38] Sturgeon's Law strikes again [04:38] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:38] i dunno if it was all crap, but they did repeat songs too much and if you didn't like it you were gonna suffer [04:39] so I think I'm just gonna try building my own installer and replace it on the slackware iso [04:39] that sounds great [04:39] yeah, we got maybe 3 "rock" stations here, and you're likely to hear the same 20-30 songs and nothing else, if you listen to all 3 of 'em [04:39] assuming building the bootable environment that the install boots into isn't difficult, it should be the easiest way to accomplish this [04:39] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:39] Urchlay: same here [04:40] i haven't listen to radio over the air in decades [04:40] i listen to internet radio all the time to [04:40] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [04:40] Urchlay: 101.9 is the only station halfway worse listening to [04:40] somafm.com's groove salad is one of my favorite stations [04:40] Urchlay, with Boston bein' on one of those stations [04:40] s/worse/worth [04:41] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:42] MLanden: yeah... I dunno why classic rock radio plays so much Boston, nobody I know is a huge fan [04:42] they're not like Zeppelin or Skynyrd [04:42] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Quit: got to go. maybe next time[if im live that long] [04:42] Urchlay: and when a station plays either one of those...it's usually one of four songs [04:42] but i'd like to see frampton, dr hook, eagles [04:43] (actually I could go my whole life without hearing any more of the top 10 lynyrd skynyrd sonds, and never miss them) [04:43] lol [04:43] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:43] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [04:43] all we ever get from frampton is "do you feel like I do" [04:43] show me the way? [04:43] brainvision (~brainvisi@host12-84-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:43] Urchlay: every 10th song here is MGMT [04:43] Frampton when he was in Humble Pie with Steve Marriott [04:43] and I *never* have heard dr. hook on the radio (didn't even know about them until just recently, someone showed me some youtube vids) [04:43] seriously? [04:44] seriously [04:44] man, you were deprived [04:44] yah [04:44] bear in mind, I'm from Georgia, I never heard real rock until I was like 15 [04:44] Urchlay: you're really deprived [04:44] what about fleetwood mac [04:44] Urchlay, no cover of a rollin' stone? [04:44] or boz scaggs [04:44] they play maybe 4 or 5 fleetwood mac songs [04:44] no boz scaggs [04:44] oh man [04:44] lawsuit!!! [04:45] and when a radio station plays ac/dc, do they *have* to play their set list from the past 15 fsck'ing years? [04:45] you aren't likely to hear much Bon Scott AC/DC on the radio here [04:45] 2 or 3 songs maybe [04:45] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [04:46] Urchlay: i mean, damn, no 'jailbreak' no 'school days' no 'let there be rock' no 'soul stripper' [04:46] JackStoner (~ezekiel@115.133.250.79) joined ##slackware. [04:46] and ZZ Top has like 5 or 10 whole albums I never knew about [04:46] not even 'ride on' [04:46] lol [04:46] "jailbreak" is by Thin Lizzy [04:46] legs! [04:46] Urchlay: no, there was a song 'jailbreak' by ac/dc [04:46] really? never knew that [04:46] balls to the wall! [04:46] Urchlay: not the same song [04:46] 10cc? [04:47] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [04:47] Urchlay: hell, they have a music video for it [04:47] and this brian johnson is ac/dc's 4th lead singer, btw [04:48] there styx, bto, boc [04:48] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIP1okixlfE [04:48] ariarat (ariarat@unaffiliated/ariarat) left ##slackware. [04:48] actually yeah, I *have* heard acdc's jailbreak [04:49] man, i'm getting all nostalgic [04:49] 'nother one group that never gets play in the states..Status Quo's durin' the 70s [04:49] oh, to hear some interesting 80s rock, TISM [04:50] MLanden: I know exactly one song by them (pictures of matchstick men), only know that one because someone covered it & I just had to look up the original [04:50] we didn't get much european music [04:52] Urchlay, Camper Van Beethoven's version....saw David Lowery back in 90s at a free concert doin' a cover of it [04:52] yeah, that's the one [04:52] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:52] honestly I prefer the cover [04:52] but then I've been a big CVB fan since I first heard them [04:54] MLanden: you ever listen to Monks of Doom? [04:55] true,Skywise...unless someone had one of those eclectic station in their area [04:56] Urchlay, might have....think a friend had them on one of those IRS sampler records back in the day [04:57] Monks of Doom is the rest of CVB after Lowery quit [04:57] (plus some other guitar player) [04:58] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:58] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:59] brainvision (~brainvisi@host12-84-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:00] (heh, I never thought of it, but if anyone in here would be a camper van fan, it'd have to be MLanden) [05:00] anyone besides me I mean [05:01] i've never heard of them [05:01] Urchlay, they did get some airplay here in Virginia [05:01] they started out as "indy" or "college radio", then got more obscure :) [05:02] i was a dj in college [05:02] when was that? [05:02] but i played jazz and brazilian music, from 83-87 [05:03] Action: trhodes wonders if anyone here likes mike watt [05:03] the problem with being a dj is trying to stay original [05:04] in a way you're never original, you're playing someone else's music [05:04] its still a performance [05:04] choosing the order and which songs to play [05:04] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [05:05] yah [05:05] got a friend who DJs at clubs for a living [05:05] Action: alienBOB has several Camper Van Beethoven albums... [05:06] i'm actually working on a playlist for memorial day [05:06] Urchlay, just remembered their cover of early Pink Floyd [05:06] we're gonna have a bbq, so i'm gonna make an 12hr playlist [05:07] trhodes: hm, trying to remember who mike watt is, heard the name, don't recognize any of the songs [05:07] ball hog or tugboat [05:07] fIREHOSE [05:07] oh, right, firehose [05:08] *firehose!* [05:08] gh0st (~gh0st@c-67-182-57-230.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:09] ooh, shiney new webm build of firefox =) [05:10] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [05:12] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [05:12] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:12] what could I have done to gnu screen to make it hang? it's a remote ssh session, and if I try to attach another screen with -rx, it also hangs o_O [05:13] other than pressing ^S? [05:13] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [05:13] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [05:13] I could have pressed ^S, yes. how to undo? [05:13] ^Q [05:13] no effect [05:13] I was editing in vim [05:14] figured it was a worse problem, you know too much to not know about ^S/^Q [05:14] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [05:14] well, ^Q doesn't help :( [05:14] try ^Q [05:15] I'll try sending CONT to all bash processes [05:15] brainvision (~brainvisi@host155-10-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:15] eh, ssh in from another terminal, kill vim. When you go to edit with vim again, it'll ask if you want to recover the file [05:15] slava_dp: can you detach the hung screen session ? [05:16] I detached it but screen -ls says it's still attached :/ [05:17] CONT did not do the trick [05:18] killed vim, still hanging [05:18] damn, I don't want to kill screen, it has 6 tabs open [05:18] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [05:19] weird, sounds like some screen commands work [05:19] trhodes, i've got another ssh session open [05:19] the first one hangs [05:20] phrag have you checked out vp8 vids yet? [05:20] doesn't screen have a force option for taking over a session? [05:20] slava_dp: so its multiuser mode ? [05:20] mancha: yeh! on youtube [05:20] trhodes, nope [05:20] 720 full screen renders nicely on a my laptop [05:20] much less resource intensive than before [05:21] damn. for pid in $(ps ax -o pid=); do kill -CONT "$pid"; done <-- did not help :-) [05:21] you joined html beta, first, right? [05:21] flash would hang for about 10 seconds when full screening [05:21] html5 beta, that is [05:21] mancha: yeh [05:21] had to logout and back in tho [05:21] cool. yep it is SO much better than flash [05:22] i was enrolled on it before, but they must disable it if you use the site with a non html5 compliant browser [05:22] it is cookie driven [05:22] ok, done. closed the hung terminal and another one showed that session is detached. so I attached and it works. [05:23] link me to a 720 full screen vid [05:23] oh, I know what the problem was... my local bash must have been STOPped. [05:24] d'oh! [05:24] ha, nice [05:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obSqlFpa8V8 [05:25] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:25] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:25] _marc` (~marc@i577B6FC4.versanet.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:25] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: )(ã_â) ) [05:25] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [05:26] i can't get fullscreen, just 3/4 screen with the perp arrow button on bottom right [05:26] right click menu, fullscreen [05:27] eek, i was on 320, moved to 720 now [05:27] weird, can you view this one... [05:28] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRHiKnF-4M4 [05:28] it's one of mine [05:28] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@h80ad23bd.async.vt.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:28] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:28] says i can't [05:28] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [05:28] nope. what codec was used for this video? [05:29] cant recall, was a long time ago [05:29] seems not all can be converted [05:29] j0z (~UNIX@187.58.237.60) joined ##slackware. [05:29] j0z (~UNIX@187.58.237.60) left irc: Changing host [05:29] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [05:29] then it wasn't vp8 as vp8 was just released open source [05:29] yeh, but older videos are being rendered in vp8 [05:29] it might be x264 [05:29] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. [05:29] right, they're migrating slowely [05:30] slowly... [05:30] or it might be flash-crap-codec :) [05:30] like older ones on youtube, must only be certain types of format is rendered [05:30] flash isn't a codec :) [05:30] the-crap-codec-that-is-built-in-flash [05:30] whichever that is [05:30] phrag, the video must be available with vp8 encoding for mozilla's html5 tag to catch it [05:32] phrag if you leave html beta5, and try that video you linked it uses flash's plugin [05:32] ah, interesting [05:32] so it is still only available in a flash container [05:32] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:33] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRdxXPV9GNQ [05:33] how can i help you Urch? [05:34] brainvision (~brainvisi@host155-10-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:35] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [05:36] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [05:36] hmm, that does nto render too well [05:36] prob BW [05:36] livinded (~livinded@pool-173-55-27-237.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: livinded [05:37] yeh, let it buffer and better [05:37] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: .. [05:38] here it renders great, full color [05:40] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:41] phrag, check this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oa_lV1YeyA [05:43] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [05:45] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.27.75) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:46] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:46] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [05:46] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.142) joined ##slackware. [05:46] andrew_46 (andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left ##slackware. [05:47] v4nelle (~van@79.107.202.55) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:48] gonna have to revert back to 3.6... nightly build does not support my nagios plugin =P [05:49] that sucks. nagios will have to make a plugin for 3.7 soon though [05:50] the only two i care about are noscript and adblock-plus and both are compat [05:51] guys, do you get Unsupported format 'application/vnd.cups-command'! with the new cups in -current? [05:51] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:51] I get that when trying to do printer maintenance [05:51] via the webinterface. [05:52] HP printers, both at home and in the office. [05:52] chromium's nightly, as of tonight also supports vp8 [05:52] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [05:53] chrome will soon follow suit - i hear. [05:53] brainvision (~brainvisi@host245-53-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:53] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [05:59] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:00] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [06:00] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-185-76.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Take care,folks! [06:01] I wonder how that vp8 thing turns out. The quality myth has already been busted. Now waiting for the "no patents" claim to go *puff* [06:02] hey guys, anyone know what is causing this being spammed to syslog on boot.. http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/Qn0lsi86.html [06:02] a udev rule? [06:03] yeh, seems to happen with default slack after adding hp printer to cups [06:03] brainvision (~brainvisi@host245-53-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:03] i'd like to fix it before 13.1 is released [06:04] grep the rules for SYSFS? I don't get any results here on 13.1rc2+ [06:05] Nick change: zarock_ -> zarock [06:06] just change every SYSFS for ATTRS [06:06] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:06] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [06:06] in /etc/udev/rules.d or wherever your rules are.... [06:08] fixed 8o) [06:08] yeh, it adds a bunch of udev rules for different hp printers [06:09] i only needed one, so removed the rest and s/SYSFS/ATTR\ [06:09] must be a hplip issue [06:09] ATTRS hopefully [06:09] also just ran rc.udev force-restart in the middle of a kde session [06:09] i used ATTR, should i use ATTRS? [06:10] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:10] says use ATTRS for parent [06:10] ATTRS searches up the parent too [06:11] you wanna search up the tree as vendor info and such is not always at the node [06:13] cool, using ATTRS now, thanks guys =) [06:14] wonder if i should mention to pat [06:14] hplip is rather common, and that error gets spammed like 20 times on default install [06:16] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:17] i'm having trouble with cups and networked hp printers on -current. [06:17] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B580E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:18] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p579B580E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:20] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [06:20] ok, i am all tapped out on my vp8 video watching - time to get some lunch. ta-ta [06:20] cya mancha =) [06:20] cheers :> [06:26] bug reported [06:27] which driver should I choose for a network hp printer, I have 1) CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.4; 2) hpijs v3.10.2; 3) hpcups 3.10.2 [06:27] think i went with hpijs [06:28] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:29] dtiger (~dtiger@dynamic-vpdn-93-125-65-20.telecom.by) joined ##slackware. [06:31] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:34] gh0st (~gh0st@c-67-182-57-230.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:35] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [06:37] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:37] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:39] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [06:44] cups 1.4 is a disaster [06:45] v4nelle (~van@79.107.202.55) joined ##slackware. [06:45] I can only print one job to my networked printer, after that all jobs just sit on the cups as "pending". [06:46] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:47] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [06:50] Wdyy (~AndChat@117.136.26.136) joined ##slackware. [06:50] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:53] so you're going to look at the cups logs, aren't you? [06:54] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:54] No job-state available from printer - stopping queue. [06:55] Backend returned status 4 (stop printer) [06:55] printer-state-message="/usr/lib64/cups/backend/ipp failed" [06:58] so your queue got stopped. that's the default behavior for when cups encounters any issues. you can change it, on a per-queue basis, to either stop the printer or to keep retrying [06:58] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [06:59] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:59] ananke, there are options to "retry current job", "retry job", "abort job", "stop printer". I have "abort job" set now. I'm not sure what each of them does. [07:00] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:01] it does exactly what it says. in an event of a problem with printing a particular job, it can: keep retrying current job, abort that job [and move onto the next one], or stop the printer queue completely [07:01] so I have the right one then, but it stops the queue nevertheless. [07:02] sounds like there are problems with communication over ipp [07:02] what kind of printer is it? [07:03] an hp laserjet connected via lpt to an edimax print server. [07:03] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [07:03] it can do lpd too, but I've had problems with that also. [07:04] maybe I should try installing it as a samba printer..... [07:04] if it was a real jet direct card, you would have the option of using socket/direct printing [port 9100] [07:04] i've found that to be often less problematic [07:05] no, it's just a cheapo 3-port print server. [07:06] did you portscan it? [07:06] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:07] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:07] zux_ (~zux@80.81.42.3) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [07:08] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.3) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:08] doing it [07:10] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.136.118) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:10] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:11] I have an old hdd that makes some clicking sounds. how can I check it / repair bads? it's mounted in my slack now [07:11] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.3) joined ##slackware. [07:12] zux_ (~zux@80.81.42.3) joined ##slackware. [07:12] clicking sounds..... throw it away. [07:12] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [07:13] you may format your partitions with bad block checking. mke2fs -t ext4 -c /dev/sdx [07:14] e2fsck -c can also be used. [07:16] ananke, http://codepad.org/eZguHUL2 [07:19] linXea (~slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [07:19] linXea (~slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Changing host [07:19] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [07:19] gnugr (~gnugr.org@athedsl-211438.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [07:21] I have a problem with runlevel 4. I usually only use runlevel 3 but since my girlfrind want to use my computer time to time I have set it to runlevel 4 for her to feel more comfortable. But when I do that I don't get any sound and I suspect there's something wrong when loading rc.local (I have modprobe for my soundcard in rc.local). Any ideas ? [07:22] permissions ? .. ouitput for # ls -l /etc/rc.d/rc.local ---> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root [07:23] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [07:23] linXea: add your account to the "audio" group [07:23] And while you're at it, add it to power and netdev too [07:23] that's the thing, Ive done all that [07:25] And logged out and back in again? [07:25] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [07:25] if I did't have that it wouldn't work from runlevel3 either, right ? .. Yes, even rebooted a few times. [07:25] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-kkvgyqtgepeahuwy) joined ##slackware. [07:25] No, runlevel 3 will add you automatically to these groups dynamically, for as long as you are logged on to the console [07:26] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:26] I'd better check again then.. [07:26] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-6-213.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:26] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.156) joined ##slackware. [07:26] x3r0x (x3r0x@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) left irc: [07:28] oh, darn.. 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[08:33] how many company are using slackware ? [08:34] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) joined ##slackware. [08:34] Rashid- (~Rashid__@adsl-90-52-244.mob.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:35] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) left irc: Client Quit [08:35] no one could possibly know the answer to that [08:35] jungli: a lot [08:36] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [08:36] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:36] why i use slackware instead of ubuntu [08:37] jungli: I don't know. Why do you use Slackware instead of Ubuntu? [08:37] hey people, any good articels (not too detailed) about networking (what is a gateway, how does a machine find a dhcp server, what is routing...)? [08:38] zoran119, you don't ask for much, do you :) [08:38] and how all these things work together [08:38] alisonken1noc: i never do [08:38] alisonken1noc: just to skim over before going into details [08:38] well, google is your friend - just may take a little extra reading [08:39] alisonken1noc: ok... i just thought someone might know 'the thing' to read [08:39] not really - those are networking 101 and 102 courses - should be easy enough to find around the internet [08:39] zoran119, the machine asks for an address on the network, then an authoritative dhcp servers answers him and asks for a sacrifice, like a goat. after successful sacrifice the server gives the machine an address [08:39] virgin goat - remember that part [08:40] that depends [08:40] can you tell me how can i check what is the ip address of the dhcp server that my machine is uning [08:40] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:40] if your new, then a virgin goat [08:40] zoran119, it will be in the reply - like "received answer from dhcp server ......" [08:40] if you are somehow known to the server, you might slip out with just a cat [08:41] Rashid_ (~Rashid__@adsl-90-52-244.mob.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:41] there was a document by Alan_Hicks on networking, let me find it.... [08:41] alisonken1noc: ok... syslog tells me [08:41] zoran119: go to south east linux fest in a month and you can hear Alan_Hicks tell you about those things in person :) [08:42] zoran119: http://lizella.net/networking_101.php [08:42] slava_dp: you're slow [08:42] :P [08:42] very good this is my blog on slackware http://s4lv4d0r.wordpress.com/ [08:42] yep, that's it. just found it too. [08:42] jungli (jungli@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-obehpqqdfxuvntwv) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [08:44] cool... that will get me started [08:44] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.189) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:44] Rashid_ (~Rashid__@adsl-90-3-202.mob.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [08:45] ascii... i like that [08:45] zoran119: you can also check /var/state/dhcp/dhclient.leases ... that should tell you which dhcp server you acquired your IP from [08:46] ang: nothing there... [08:47] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [08:49] revel0 (~revel0@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [08:52] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.136.118) joined ##slackware. [08:53] x3r0x (x3r0x@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [08:54] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:54] Nick change: alema0 -> alema0ff [08:57] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:57] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: )(ã_â) ) [08:57] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:57] jstg (~jstg@166.205.141.245) joined ##slackware. [08:59] Lokiheero (~vadmin@113.22.203.56) joined ##slackware. [08:59] helenia- (alone@41.236.13.102) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:00] who can tell me why my chrome browser can not start ? [09:01] you need to make some sym links to the correct libs [09:01] which lib is it looking for? [09:02] http://s4lv4d0r.wordpress.com/ [09:03] Lokiheero, with that amount of information just a psychic can [09:03] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:04] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:04] Heh... [09:04] Seriously, error messages are helpful. [09:05] hix [09:06] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [09:06] Lokiheero, did you install it via slackbuilds.org? [09:06] if you did, then you would know what packages chrome requires in order to work. [09:06] psYcker (~psYcker@201.164.155.0) joined ##slackware. [09:10] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:12] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [09:13] AnTourter (~gggjlt@geog-a111.ggy.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:14] ghfh (~fhfhfh@201.255.105.16) joined ##slackware. [09:15] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:15] ariarat (~ariarat@unaffiliated/ariarat) joined ##slackware. [09:15] Hi, I tried several mirrrors for slackpkg and I allways get: "Error downloading from ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware-13.1/." Anyone knows one mirror that works? [09:16] there's no mirror for 13.1 yet. [09:16] get slackware-current. [09:17] slackware-current is 13.0 ? [09:17] no, slackware-current is as of now slackware-13.1-rc2. [09:17] -current is the latest development version. [09:18] slava_dp, Thanks, so I should change the line: ftp://ftp.slackware-brasil.com.br/slackware-13.1/ for ftp://ftp.slackware-brasil.com.br/slackware-current/ ? [09:19] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [09:19] yes. [09:19] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:19] but beware that even if in RC2 its still a development version [09:19] Thanks, works :) [09:20] yeah. back-up your stuff before you upgrade [09:20] sahko, I tried 13.0 but my wireless card is not supported in this version [09:20] listen you guys, I don't think I am ready for KDE 4 =/ [09:21] Teratogen, then kde4 isn't ready for YOU too! [09:21] jstg (~jstg@166.205.141.245) left irc: Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi [09:21] Teratogen: i dont think the world is, and probably will never be for a 'semanttic desktop' [09:21] Teratogen, then don't use it [09:21] slava_dp: xD [09:21] What exactly mean "be ready for kde 4"? [09:22] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: .. [09:22] I noticed that gnome is not here :s [09:22] you need to upgrade your graphic eyes to support visual effects [09:22] adrien, when they work :/ mine now don't :) [09:22] ghfh: gnome hasn't been in slack for several years [09:22] By the way, I prefer CLI (that is not true but makes me feel better to say that) [09:23] hitest, Why is not gnome? [09:23] slackytude (~slacky@e179054189.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:23] ghfh: google 'slackware gnome removal' [09:24] ghfh: because Pat doesn't want to support it. there are slackware derivatives that run gnome. [09:24] nah [09:24] because gnome makes nothing to be easy to support [09:24] yeah [09:24] I don't miss gnome at all [09:25] neither do I [09:25] Pearl (~71a793db@gateway/web/freenode/x-vrhiufgliynowvcu) joined ##slackware. [09:25] i miss the sunshine. its been raining for 3 days in a row [09:25] chao moi nguoi [09:25] I prefer xfce and fluxbox on Slackware [09:25] y0 [09:26] giup minh voi [09:26] hi slackytude [09:26] sahko, first sunny day in weeks here ^-^ [09:26] yoyo slackytude =) [09:26] heya hitest [09:26] moi nguoi giup minh voi duoc khong [09:26] yo Camarade_Tux [09:26] hitest, there isn't Icewm too :| [09:26] alienBOB: ping [09:26] ai do giup minh voi [09:26] ghfh: you can build a lot of environments using SBo [09:27] minh cai chrome nhung no khong chay duoc [09:27] Pearl: we don't understand vietnamese [09:27] ok [09:27] Robertf (~frederic@s184.silver.fastwebserver.de) joined ##slackware. [09:27] Hello [09:27] please help [09:27] alienBOB: nah, it's ok, sorry :-) [09:28] lol [09:28] heh [09:28] a cry for help [09:28] i'm install google chrome [09:28] looking for a way to install chrome/chromium?* [09:28] I see SBo are packages from community of users. :) [09:28] s4lv4d0r (~salvador@200.84.175.168) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:28] Pearl: use the build script of chrome at SBo [09:28] but it can't run [09:29] how do you install it? [09:29] i'm installed chrome, but it can't run [09:29] how did you install it? [09:30] i've a integrated graphical card (intel 82852/855Gm). The driver used is Intel. After startx, the computer freezes [09:30] Slackware 13.0 [09:30] Robertf: freeze or [09:30] or mouse/keyboard not working? [09:31] adrien: black screen, keyboard not working [09:31] i'm get it from slackwarebuild [09:31] Robertf: you tried the other drivers which are in extra/ ? [09:31] when i used i810, i never had this probleme [09:31] problem [09:32] s4lv4d0r (~salvador@200.84.175.168) joined ##slackware. [09:32] Pearl: did you install the dependencies for chrome? [09:32] then i run it from terminal with command chrome...SlackwareBuild [09:32] Pearl: run 'google-chrome' in terminal and it is probably complaining about a library missing. If so, what library? [09:32] Robertf, there are a number of drivers in /extra, as noted. try them. [09:32] no i'm intall chrome was success [09:33] Pearl: chrome requires GConf and seamonkey-solibs [09:33] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) joined ##slackware. [09:33] and gconf requires orbit2 [09:34] adrien: slava_dp i use the default version 2.8.0. I'll downgrade to 2.7.1, ok.? [09:34] i don't know, i'm go to Application, and run it [09:34] and slackbuilds.org doesnt host packages, but scripts so you can build packages yourself [09:34] Pearl: you must install all required dependencies [09:34] or chrome won't run [09:35] Pearl, go to applications, open up a terminal, type google-chrome, hit enter. what does it say? [09:35] Robertf, try all of them. [09:35] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:36] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [09:36] it's say /usr/bin/google-chrome: line 33: /opt/google/chrome/chrome: No such file or directory [09:36] and [09:36] slava_dp: i've this problem with other gnu/linux distribution.. [09:37] /usr/bin/google-chrome: line 33: /opt/google/chrome/chrome: Success [09:38] Pearl, read slackbuilds.org/howto and learn how to properly make/install slackware packages and their dependencies. [09:39] thank's [09:39] about your idea;what the best way to upgrade slackware(to current or from older stable to current stable)? automatic or manual?which tools? [09:39] ariarat, slackpkg [09:40] and the brain too [09:40] upgrade-all? [09:40] yeah, need to point the mirror.conf to new version as well [09:40] upgrade-all; install-new; clean-system; new-config [09:40] and read the appropriate text files [09:41] Pearl: like slava_dp said the documentation is very thorough, complete at slackbuilds.org. there's a good tutorial which explains step by step how to build packages. have fun:) [09:41] slava_dp: 2.7.1 not working.. [09:41] slava_dp: i try the other versions in /extra [09:41] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [09:41] Robertf, is the card too new or too old? [09:42] jstg (~jstg@166.205.141.245) joined ##slackware. [09:42] jstg (~jstg@166.205.141.245) left irc: Client Quit [09:42] output lspci / intel (82852/855gm). 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[09:49] Nick change: xchg_bed -> xchg [09:49] Robertf, I can't help, other than suggest trying different versions of the intel driver. [09:50] r_linux (~r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [09:53] What a day! [09:54] all version in /extra not working [09:55] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [09:55] Robertf, then you are stuck with vesa for now. [09:55] Robertf: Create an xorg.conf file and then disable dri in the modules section. [09:55] why does uname report x86_64 with a Pentium 4? [09:55] phrag, I would say that was a fake uname output. [09:56] then refuse to help him [09:56] who is helping him? [09:56] if he;s going to lie and bullshit to the channel trying to help him [09:56] Aren't there 64-bit Pentium IVs? [09:56] i've never heard of them... [09:57] From wikipedia: The only advantage the 3.73 GHz Pentium 4 Extreme Edition had over the 3.46 GHz Pentium 4 Extreme Edition was the ability to run 64-bit applications since all Gallatin-based Pentium 4 Extreme Edition processors lacked the Intel 64 instruction set. [09:57] yeh there is [09:57] my apologies [09:57] Action: adamk wins [09:57] not 3.0 GHz, right? :) [09:58] jstg (~jstg@166.205.141.245) joined ##slackware. [09:58] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:58] i found the problem with an other distribution installed in this computer.. [09:59] and the problem was it isnt slack? [09:59] =P [09:59] then file a bug with your ubuntu already! =) [10:01] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8DDC0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:01] dtiger (dtiger@dynamic-vpdn-93-125-65-20.telecom.by) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [10:05] v4nelle (~van@79.107.202.55) left irc: Quit: http://v4nelle.dyndns.org [10:05] v4nelle (~van@79.107.202.55) joined ##slackware. [10:06] You might have more luck if you disable direct rendering. Or, if you have another machine around, you could try to ssh into the box with the intel GPU to see if it really does completely lock up. [10:06] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [10:06] is this -current or 13.0? [10:06] My computer works with debian lenny. It uses the version 2.3.2 (intel) [10:07] as i had issues with intel driver in flux on 13.0 [10:07] it was subsequently fixed in -current [10:07] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [10:07] 2.3.2 is old [10:07] ferdl (~phiezer@pD9E33B10.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:07] Everything on Lenny is old.. [10:07] jstg (~jstg@166.205.141.245) left irc: Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi [10:07] The Debian idea of stable is everyone else's idea of ancient. [10:08] Pearl (~71a793db@gateway/web/freenode/x-vrhiufgliynowvcu) left irc: Quit: Page closed [10:09] xf86-video-intel-2.8.1-i486 is in -current extra/ [10:09] adamk: ok but this driver works with my computer. If you find a solution for me.. you're welcome [10:09] It is possible using "testing" branch that have new packages and proved. [10:09] the debian's intel driver works [10:09] I've given a couple of suggestions. [10:09] xf86-video-intel-2.10.0 is -current [10:10] escaflown (~escaflown@S0106002275b651fe.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:10] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:10] sorry, whats all this debian chat? [10:10] adamk: all versions in /extra not working.. Is the version in -current will work? [10:10] :-) [10:11] are you using -current? [10:11] I can't possibly know the answer to that question. [10:11] it's not a good idea to mix and match [10:11] I think it's safe to say that it won't work if you're not using -current. [10:11] I believe that all newer versions require KMS to be enabled, too. [10:11] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:11] ROKO__ (0@253-135.thezone.bg) joined ##slackware. [10:11] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:11] ROKO__ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using IRC as root is dangerous. Please reference "Using IRC as root" via google for further information. [10:12] but basically, 2.10.0 is way newer than whatever version you were having trouble with [10:12] When I put "startx" kde starts. What conf file should I edit to change it? [10:12] ~/.xinitrc [10:12] straterra, thanks [10:12] Yup [10:13] xwmconfig [10:13] no need to edit files [10:13] there is a script [10:13] ghfh, xwmconfig [10:13] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:13] Action: slava_dp is always last today [10:13] \o/ [10:13] Of course xwmconfig will change it for everyone on the system. [10:13] If you only want to change it for your user, use .xinitrc./ [10:13] depends [10:13] not true [10:13] Oh? [10:13] [10:13] if you run it as user, it'll change for the user. [10:14] thanks [10:14] Huh. [10:14] how could a normal user change system wide settings? [10:14] Interesting. [10:14] ~/.xinitrc not .xinitrc./ [10:14] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [10:14] I never ran it as a user. [10:14] Yeah, yeah. My fingers failed. [10:14] =) [10:14] ghfh (~fhfhfh@201.255.105.16) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:16] ariarat (ariarat@unaffiliated/ariarat) left ##slackware. [10:16] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:17] i installed the version 2.11 -in current.. I'm trying.. wait [10:17] sinura (~ini@202.70.58.249) joined ##slackware. [10:17] sinura (ini@202.70.58.249) left ##slackware. [10:17] Action: phrag knows nothing about KMS... [10:17] time to read up [10:18] Yeah, this is going to fail badly for Robertf [10:18] phrag, kms is easy. [10:20] the version 2.11.0 not working [10:20] nvision (~nvision@e179138026.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [10:20] predictable result. [10:20] CAUSE YOU AREN'T ON -CURRENT [10:20] lol [10:22] if i understand, i can't use slackware 13.0 in this computer. What is the solution? Install slackware 12.1 [10:22] There may not be a solution. [10:23] Or..use..current [10:23] why can't you use slack 13? driver issues? [10:23] wait a few days and install 13.1, it should not take long. [10:23] But you can try disabling DRI, as I previously suggested. [10:23] BrunoRusso (~brunoruss@200.162.45.6) joined ##slackware. [10:24] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) joined ##slackware. [10:24] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:25] adamk: xorg.conf => #Option "DRI" [10:26] That's not gonna do it. DRI is enabled by default. You can try: [10:26] Option "DRI" "off" [10:26] But I'm not even sure if that disables DRI on intel GPUs. [10:27] You might need to add Disable "dri" to the Modules section. [10:27] does anyone have a slackware startup script for network ups tools? [10:28] RH and debian ones are way too bloated. [10:28] just pare them down [10:28] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [10:28] I guess I should. [10:29] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:32] adamk: it is not working. [10:33] only debian lenny work in this computer [10:33] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:33] what you mean work? [10:33] Robertf: Then it sounds like newer versions of the driver has a bug for your particular setup. [10:33] mcury (~mcury@189.24.117.16) joined ##slackware. [10:34] adamk: are there bugs reported about this drivers with the newest versions? [10:34] There are probably bugs reported about every driver with every version :-) [10:35] I don't know if you are the only one with this specific problem, if that's what you're trying to find out. [10:35] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-191-36.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [10:36] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:36] adamk: i've the problem with slackware 13.0 & ubuntu 10.04 [10:37] dus, it will be a bug in the driver, isn't it? [10:37] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:37] That seems very likely, yes. [10:38] adamk: can you report this problem.. [10:39] G-Farkas_ (~graciela@201.255.122.156) joined ##slackware. [10:42] Ummm.. [10:42] I'm not the one having the problem. [10:42] So no. [10:42] tried current? [10:42] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [10:42] lots of changes and a bug report for a one-year old code is probably going to get answered with "try latest version" [10:42] Robertf, file a bug on launchpad, it's peanuts. [10:43] gogie (paulnamua@unaffiliated/gogie) left ##slackware. [10:43] 10.04 is not one year old [10:43] yeah, realized there was ubuntu too... [10:44] G-Farkas (~graciela@201.255.105.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:44] ariarat (~ariarat@unaffiliated/ariarat) joined ##slackware. [10:44] #slackbuilds [10:44] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:44] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.3) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:45] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [10:48] Rashid-- (~Rashid__@adsl-90-3-202.mob.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:49] slava_dp: can you explain me to file a bug on launchpad. I'm a newbie [10:50] Robertf, intel 855gm? [10:51] Rashid_ (~Rashid__@adsl-90-3-202.mob.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:51] ferdl: oui [10:51] ferdl: yes [10:52] ferdl: do you want the lscpi output? [10:52] Robertf, german? [10:52] ferdl: i'm belgian [10:54] Robertf, http://glasen-hardt.de/?p=568 a remastered ubuntu w. updated intel-drivers and 855gm-patched kernel-modules [10:54] yeh, this is ##slackware btw [10:54] maybe ask this guy for the patches and patch the source for slackware ;-) [10:54] ##slackware does not suggest installing ubuntu to fix your problem [10:55] phrag, true [10:55] deximat (~deximat@79.101.236.168) joined ##slackware. [10:55] ferdl: 13.1 is days away, 13.0 is not getting patched for intel crap any time soon IMHO [10:56] ;-) [10:56] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-109-191-36.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:57] "oui" is french, german would be "ja" ;-) [10:57] phrag, well... perhaps Robertf patches and build the needed :) [10:58] phrag: mostly, it's: if it happens in every distro, it must not be distro-specific [10:58] adrien, i know [10:58] is a patch will be available for slackware 13.0 [10:58] however, I'm certainly not going to be able to say how to fill a bug report for ubuntu ;p [10:59] if enough people report the bug in 13.0, or if it's considered serious enough, it will be fixed [10:59] if it's not slackware specific then it wont be fixed in 13.0 [11:00] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [11:01] I think I saw someone mention a similar bug, if it still exists in 13.1, it should probably be reported on freedesktop.org rather that on a distro BTS [11:01] what#s the issue? [11:01] i dont even know lol [11:01] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:01] if this bug is not solved in 13.0.. i can't use slackware ;-) [11:02] we'll just scrap the whole thing then [11:02] so go find out what's wrong and report it to volkerdi@slackware.com [11:02] lol Skywise [11:03] phrag: borked X with an intel i855gm [11:03] but I'm under the impression that hardware hasn't received much love [11:03] Robertf: report the bug, move on, install -current or wait few days for 13.1 [11:04] ROKO__ (1000@253-135.thezone.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:04] dont expect 13.0 to be fixed soon though, unless it's fixed upstream (at the intel end) [11:04] yay roko [11:04] 13.1 is priority right now [11:05] I thought linux was only up to 10.04. This release sounds like it will be skipping several versions. [11:05] gutten ag [11:05] huh :o [11:05] bellman: wtf? [11:05] at the moment, i can't use slackware 13.0 :-( [11:05] this is way better then linux [11:06] Application bugs are not going to be fixed for past Slackware releases - only critical security holes are patched [11:06] thats why its got more versions [11:06] bellman: "linux was only up to 10.04" ...wtf? [11:06] If your Intel card does not work with Slackware 13.0 Robertf then try 13.1 in a few days [11:06] Skywise [11:06] ? [11:06] bellman: http://www.slackware.com/faq/do_faq.php?faq=general#0 [11:06] Ubuntu has 10.04. Linux != Ubuntu bellman [11:07] ahhh ok, that must just be Ubuntu [11:07] Ffs [11:07] you usually get kicked from ircing as root and this is the first time i've seen you make it into the channel, so congrats [11:07] i know, in my thinkpad (using intel), 13.0 driver had issues (corrupt pixels etc)... 13.1 worked perfect [11:07] Skywise yeh [11:07] i login with root .. because not created no root user [11:07] ;> [11:08] i found it about my problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/577858 [11:08] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.84.105) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:08] did someone switch the sign on the door without telling me? [11:08] i though this was #slackware [11:09] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.17.36) joined ##slackware. [11:09] Skywise: yup, ##slackware-renamed-to-##ubuntu [11:09] doh! [11:09] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-171-25.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [11:09] but more seriously, I've seen that mentionned earlier and I believe it's not distro-specific [11:10] then its likely a kernel issue and not a distro one [11:10] kernel and/or X [11:10] With intel these days, kernel and X are pretty tightly integrated :-) [11:11] radeon is getting there, but intel certainly has the lead in that department. [11:11] but for i8xx, not necessarily, it's older hardware which is getting far less love [11:12] OH, it's still getting more integrated with the kernel. It's just getting much less testing. [11:13] In any case, I think we can all agree that it's not slackware specific. [11:13] yep [11:13] Hopefully the components are fixed upstream and these fixed parts will be in 13.1 [11:13] Genk1 (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:14] caixabox (~c9354157@gateway/web/freenode/x-rpskltmnmacmxyku) joined ##slackware. [11:14] Rashid_ (~Rashid__@adsl-90-3-202.mob.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:15] anyone are using firefox beta? [11:16] i haven't seen any improvements in the last couple of firefox upgrades so i don't upgrade anymore [11:16] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:16] I are using firefox [11:16] get (~isix-os@unaffiliated/get) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:16] i don't like ff 3 at all [11:17] Genk1 (~Am1ne@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [11:17] the nightly build seemed quick [11:17] RJz0r (~ham@216-189-164-080-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:17] but nagios plugin died so had to swap back [11:17] Rashid-- (~Rashid__@adsl-90-3-202.mob.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:17] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:18] get (~isix-os@devel.isix-os.org) joined ##slackware. [11:18] and the webm stuff is way cool [11:18] mag0o (20001@slackhost.lynchmv.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:18] 3 was just bloated with alot of features i didn't want with no way to turn them off [11:18] Nick change: get -> Get|Off [11:18] Nick change: Get|Off -> get [11:18] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] mag0o (20001@slackhost.lynchmv.com) joined ##slackware. [11:18] Skywise, dillo user? [11:18] RJz0r (~ham@216-189-164-080-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) joined ##slackware. [11:19] Get|Off: please disable your away message get, no one cares if you go to the toilet =P [11:19] no, just noscript and adblock [11:21] with ff2 [11:23] nachox (~imarambio@201.254.116.217) joined ##slackware. [11:23] dillo can't really do ssl [11:23] fadein (fadein@gnu.mtveurope.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [11:24] fadein (fadein@gnu.mtveurope.org) joined ##slackware. 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[11:34] ariarat (ariarat@unaffiliated/ariarat) left ##slackware. [11:36] yes [11:36] no [11:36] maybe [11:36] !! its taken a week, but my ha-linux cluster is finally working [11:37] Wiren- (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:37] Action: mtkoan waits for applause [11:37] Action: mtkoan doesn't hear any [11:37] Action: mtkoan goes back to his cave [11:40] you have it fail over and back yet? [11:40] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [11:40] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.167.7) joined ##slackware. [11:40] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:41] mtkoan: \o/ [11:41] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [11:41] nebulae_ (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:41] dunno what I'm applausing but I'm applausing anyway =) [11:41] :D skywise, yes, by powering off and using the rc scripts [11:41] I'm going to start unplugging things now [11:42] saiful (~saiful@202.70.54.7) joined ##slackware. [11:43] WHAT a BEAUTIFUL day in the FLA! [11:45] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [11:45] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.167.7) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:45] bobsaccamano (~7aa74df9@gateway/web/freenode/x-mujixnntmhorwwxa) joined ##slackware. [11:46] good might [11:46] good night all [11:46] o/ [11:46] gn [11:47] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:48] chipster (~chipster@unaffiliated/chipster) joined ##slackware. [11:49] hi..im trying to install slackware 13 inside a xp host with vbox...when I try to boot it, i get an error: No bootable medium found! System halted [11:49] can someone help me out here...im new to slackware [11:50] psYcker (~psYcker@201.164.155.0) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:51] bobsaccamano: not familiar with vbox, only ever used qemu, but sounds like you need to make sure vbox is seeing your slackware iso [11:51] how do you tell it to boot on the slackware iso [11:51] mtkoan: i followed this:http://www.bnetweb.org/how-to/install-slackware-on-virtualbox/ [11:51] ? [11:52] ROKO__ (1000@253-135.thezone.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:52] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [11:53] adrien: Settings > Storage > IDE Secondary MAster is pointing to the iso [11:53] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:53] boot order? [11:53] perhaps your iso is bad? [11:53] guax (~guax@189.34.46.63) joined ##slackware. [11:53] guax (~guax@189.34.46.63) left irc: Changing host [11:53] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [11:54] don't you have to tell it it's the cdrom drive rather than ide secondary master? [11:54] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Action: adrien hasn't used vbox in a long time though [11:54] i'm with mtkoan, md5sum ceck your iso [11:55] check even [11:55] hmm..not according to the instructions [11:55] yeah..will do that [11:55] or, there's always #vbox :) [11:55] thanks guys [11:56] nachox (~imarambio@201.254.116.217) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:57] Lokiheero (vadmin@113.22.203.56) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:57] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-194-78.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [12:01] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:01] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [12:06] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@168-103-63-219.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:07] brbrbr (~brbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Quit: got to go. maybe next time[if im live that long] [12:07] bobsaccamano: Why do I find your nick hilarious? [12:09] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [12:09] jrt05 (~jason@c-98-196-24-103.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] psYcker (~psYcker@201.164.155.0) joined ##slackware. [12:11] maybe cause its his name? im sure yours is just as hilarious :p [12:12] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!0@* expired. [12:12] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:12] Wdyy (~AndChat@117.136.26.136) left irc: Quit: Bye [12:12] I'm running slackware 13. And the tty "hibernates" after a while. Since I'm running it in a virtual machine, and have many things going on, I would like to turn this feature off. Anybody know where I would look for that? [12:12] Good q. [12:13] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Quit: Tits a pleasure [12:13] Wdyy (~AndChat@117.136.26.136) joined ##slackware. [12:14] sounds like you mean the console blanks [12:14] mancha: I'd agree, that's what he's after. Is it an agetty setting? [12:14] or are you in X in the VM? [12:15] mancha, console blanks sounds correct. I"m not in X [12:15] eviljames, you disable with "settrerm" [12:15] ferdl (~phiezer@pD9E33B10.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: we are upgrading /dev/null [12:15] oh ho! [12:15] Action: eviljames writes that down [12:15] setterm -blank 0 [12:15] the default is set in rc.M [12:16] nice, thanks, I"ll check out the man page [12:16] eviljames: that's because Bob Saccamano improved the invention of the paddle ball by adding the rubber cord. [12:16] welcome jrt [12:16] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:16] Urugami (~KB5YRZ@139.sub-97-196-149.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [12:17] brainvision (~brainvisi@host173-94-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:18] okay the md5 sum is WAY off...3.6gb of downloads down the drain... [12:18] how do you know its WAY off? [12:18] might be a single bit wrong [12:19] slackytude: its totally different [12:19] well, duh [12:19] md5sum of what exactly/ [12:19] the .iso [12:19] "the" iso ? [12:19] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:20] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:20] mancha: slackware-13.0-install-dvd.iso [12:20] bobsaccamano: touch it up with rsync [12:20] agreed [12:20] alphageek: is there a windows equivalent? [12:20] are you sure the checksum is bad? [12:21] yes [12:21] you are testing on the dl'd iso not a burned disc right? [12:21] ok.. mancha: yes [12:21] gimme a minute.. it's not something I normally need, so I have to dig through my bookmarks [12:22] unless the windows utility is borked [12:22] cygwin [12:22] has rsync [12:22] where'd you get the md5 from? [12:22] there's a standalone version as well [12:22] deltacopy? [12:23] found it [12:23] ha [12:23] http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp [12:24] alphageek: thanks [12:24] welcome [12:24] it's been a while since I've used it (I only touch the windows machine here [which isn't mine] when something breaks) [12:25] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:25] I do know it works perfectly well on 2K & XP. no clue about Visaster or 7 [12:26] Vistaster, even [12:26] damned typos [12:26] im on xp sp3 [12:26] then it'll drop right in [12:28] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [12:29] so what do i do with deltacopy? [12:29] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-194-78.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:30] bobsaccamano you ran md5sum on the .iso file and don't get: 6ef533fcae494af16b3ddda7f1c3c6b7 ? [12:31] er, i mean d5d23dec649279c239dc680d14d2bbb0 [12:31] mancha: no i didnt [12:31] and the program was called md5sums - http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/ [12:32] this is the md5 sum i get: 45f9eed210d7ffab12ac893479cfd131 [12:33] bobsaccamano: connect to a mirror that supports rsync, then touch up your iso. essentially download 'over top of' the one you have. rsync has enough smarts to only pull the differing bits over the wire [12:33] . o O ( http://alphageek.dyndns.org/linux/slackware-mirrors.shtml ) [12:33] ^ a handy selection [12:33] that is the suck...i was hoping for a reason that didn't mean your d/l was corrupted :( [12:33] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4A889.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:34] something like a faulty md5 summer... [12:34] not very likely [12:34] did you use a torrent to dl cause torrent hashs blocks (error correction) [12:34] *hashes [12:35] that's another way to clean it up, yeah. slower & more goes over the wire, though [12:35] slower? Id say that depends [12:36] also it's slightly unfortunate timing (your 13.0 dl) since 13.1 is days away from being released [12:36] alphageek: do i open the rsync address in deltacopy? Sry for being such an ignoramus...but havent used it before [12:36] it'd only be faster if there are _lots_ of errors, and lots of peers to get corrections from [12:36] mancha: yeah i used the torrent [12:36] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:36] bob, the torrent should not be corrupt then! [12:37] bobsaccamano: fire up the torrent again and see if there's an option to check the integrity or something similar [12:37] Andersffs (~Shitbag@217.175.122.46) joined ##slackware. [12:38] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:38] hackedhead: ok... [12:39] anyone on -current with a radeon 4XXX? [12:39] bobsaccamano: it's been too long since I've last used it. just poke through the help file.. it's straightforward enough [12:40] if you can use ftp & http, you can use rsync via deltacopy [12:41] i am confused, the bittorren protocol ensures content integrity [12:41] it hashes all data blocks [12:41] some clients are less than bright :) [12:41] pseudo-code: if (downloaded chunk does not hash well) then re-request() [12:42] oh woops! some clients break protocol? [12:43] wow, change client, asap. torrents include sha1 hashes of each chunk but if your client is retard-oh then it's time to switch clients. [12:43] also some users might turn off the option to check hash, some clients support that. i dont know if it can be turned off entirely though [12:44] saiful (~saiful@202.70.54.7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:44] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:45] even ktorrent can be set to not re-request chunks on N hash fails (N == 3 is default). nothing says you can't set N to some stupidly high number & shoot yourself in the foot [12:45] you want high [12:45] um, no [12:45] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-197.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:46] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: brb [12:46] the latest transmission 1.93 starts with a warning that using a bittorrent client shares your files over the internet. lol [12:46] heh [12:46] that just means if it dl's the same chunk 3times and fails on each it just continues... [12:46] or do i not read the feature correctly? [12:46] you misread, methinks [12:49] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@ip174-64-14-107.br.br.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] gospch (~gospch@unaffiliated/gospch) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:50] fhobia (~btmura@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:51] j0z (~UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [12:52] whoa, how did i just now see google for the first time today [12:52] you live under a rock? :) [12:53] I never load google's frontpage ;-) [12:53] alphageek, you totally have it backwards. the lower N is the less retries it will do. High is better. [12:54] adrien: i do when i first wake up. for example, last sunday, if i didnt, i would have forgotten its mothers day :) [12:54] s/didnt/hadnt [12:55] i think this is my new favorite google logo [12:55] jrt05: what version of ktorrent are you using? [12:55] sahko: DOH! [12:55] sahko: ah, right, but you don't live in the same country as I do [12:56] Action: adrien checks when mother day is [12:56] hah! see? :) [12:56] 3.3.4 has in settings > bittorrent: 'do a full data check after N corrupted chunks' where N defaults to 3 [12:56] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:59] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:59] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:59] I think we're stumbling over 'less retries' vs 'less permissive of errors' [12:59] I'm talking about the latter [13:00] that option sounds from reading it here on the channel to be a 2nd level i.e. it is already hashing chunks and re-requesting since it know 3 were bad [13:00] Robertf (frederic@s184.silver.fastwebserver.de) left ##slackware. [13:00] anyhow, read it however you want. I'm busy doing something productive [13:01] sirslacker (~sirslacke@p54B16E9B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] sQuEE` (~squee@186.125.33.254) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:01] and then figures, lets check all chunks even those that didn't trigger alerts, since we have 3 bad ones and the basket might be rotten [13:02] the good news is it seems to be doing chunk level hash checking already (so it knows 3 were bad) :) [13:05] brainvision (~brainvisi@host173-94-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:05] Wdyy (~AndChat@117.136.26.136) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:06] yeah, thats why i said i dont know if it can be turned off completely. i dont think any client supports that [13:07] v4nelle (~van@79.107.202.55) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:07] usually most have option for checking after download [13:08] johndee (~id@95-29-177-30.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:09] andreas-- (~andy@unaffiliated/slacky) joined ##slackware. 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[13:15] I tried Eric's usbboot.img last night and it failed to boot [13:16] hahah sed -i -e 's/prefeer/prefer/' -e 's/clasic/classic/' -e 's/rtmf/rtfm/' [13:16] guax: ^ [13:16] eviljames, keyboard problems [13:16] eviljames, those 10 little sticks that clicks on the keys seem to be a little odd today [13:17] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [13:17] _S4MUR4I_ (~chatzilla@189.23.132.2) joined ##slackware. [13:18] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [13:18] Found it, thanks Guax [13:18] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [13:18] CaptNemo (~joe@71.21.86.35) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:19] andreas-- (~andy@unaffiliated/slacky) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:23] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [13:24] brainvision (~brainvisi@host173-94-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[14:31] back to slack [14:32] ban the nerd! heh [14:33] soul_of_guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:33] soul_of_guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [14:33] soul_of_guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Client Quit [14:33] hahah [14:34] mancha: I didnt really pay attn in that class, didnt even open the book till the final. [14:34] Clio (~Clio@nat-84-16-60-38.extel.sk) joined ##slackware. [14:36] you opened it _during_ the final? =) [14:36] no wonder, you cheated! 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[14:47] I'm trying to setup an ip amsquerade. I've read through Masquerade-Simple-HOWTO and did what was explained in there, but it's not working. Can someone help me setup masquearding? [14:48] Nick0 (~Nick0@ip-132-60-179-93.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] you mean N-to-1 NAT? [14:49] yeah [14:49] ok, what have you done so far? [14:50] I've tried to setup iptables to forward. I've used "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j SNAT --to " [14:51] I've also tried iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT [14:51] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:51] wlan0 is the external nic [14:51] eth0 is the internal nic [14:51] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:52] both boxes can ping each other I can ssh in, samba works etc [14:52] but the internet isnt being forwarded for some reason [14:52] okay try iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE [14:52] instead of your rule... [14:53] it's been centuries since i did masquerading with netfilter, but i think that works [14:53] whoa, that works [14:53] wow, thanks! [14:53] mancha, http://s4lv4d0r.wordpress.com/ [14:53] no prob Reti :) [14:53] i spent a few hours on that last inght and i couldnt get it [14:54] heh, it's really slow lol [14:54] s4lv4d0r: Estoy seguro de que aquí nadie quiere leer tu blog. Detener el spam. [14:55] mancha: do I have to run that everytime at boot? [14:55] is that italian? [14:55] espanol [14:55] mancha: He told me Spanish in ##slackware-offtopic, where he's working on a permanent ban. [14:55] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:55] Reti, you need to run that each time you set up your rules, i.e. iptables rules are cleared on boot (don't you have some on-boot firewall script) [14:55] ? [14:56] mancha: ah ok, yeah, i'll put it in rc.firewall [14:56] estranho (~diogo@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [14:56] why did he address his particular spam to me? am i just that damn lucky :) [14:57] Zozma (~Shapeshif@97-83-229-2.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:57] fatalnix (~fatalnix@pool-64-223-225-25.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:58] bobsaccamano (~7aa74df9@gateway/web/freenode/x-mujixnntmhorwwxa) left irc: Quit: Page closed [15:00] Anyone care to explain to me how the hell svn keeps track of your files or a document describing how? [15:00] Alan_Hicks: black magic [15:00] If you're white, it doesn't work [15:01] :( that's why I have to use git [15:01] :P [15:01] I'd rather use git [15:01] Alan_Hicks: a copy in a hidden folder [15:01] adrien: There are no hidden folders in my svn repo though. [15:02] http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ [15:02] Yeah, I'm reading it, but it ain't answering my questions. :-) [15:02] Alan_Hicks: it's because it's really well-hidden :P [15:03] Alan_Hicks: find -iname '*svn*', returns anything? [15:03] http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.5/svn.basic.in-action.html#svn.basic.in-action.revs [15:03] it's a long time since I last used svn =) [15:03] adrien: ./dev/conf/svnserve.conf that's it. [15:04] Ah... I think y'all are misunderstanding me. [15:04] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:05] I have setup dav_svn within apache on a system. I can checkout, commit, etc from anywhere no problem. [15:06] What I'm wanting to do though, is hook into svn and rsync HEAD to /var/www/ so I can view an up-to-date copy of my website anytime I commit a change. [15:06] My SVNParentPath is /home/svn, but there's hardly anything in there. [15:07] Alan_Hicks: [15:07] you have more than one repo? [15:07] use git in /var/www, a commit hook and pull from there? :P [15:07] else SVNParentPath is not a good thing to set [15:07] Alan_Hicks: but what are you stuck on? creating the hook? [15:08] tusk: No, just the one. [15:08] adrien: Yeah. [15:08] Alan_Hicks: then remove svnparentpath [15:08] Alan_Hicks: what's wrong actually ? [15:09] tusk: Nothing is wrong with SVN, I'm just trying to figure out how to write a hook to sync changes in the repo to my actual website for development purposes. [15:10] may i ask how you will display the synced repo? [15:10] http [15:10] cause for example webSVN linked to your svn repo would do what i understand you're trying to achieve [15:10] but maybe i'm wrong [15:10] Basically, I'm just wanting to track changes to my website, and when I commit to HEAD, I want those changes copied into my site's DocumentRoot. [15:11] oh ok [15:11] Make sense? [15:11] wbSVN displays the SVN tree, but doesn't display the actual site, including php and such. [15:11] true [15:12] so that's the "trigger way" to follow [15:12] and i'm def not help here [15:12] I'm really not used to svn but you may have to create a directory named "hooks" and put your script in it [15:13] adrien: Yeah, SVN creates that directory, and I've put a post-commit hook script in there that simply echoes the revision number to a file in /tmp, so all that's working. [15:13] yeah they have to follow a pattern name to get executed before/after the commit [15:13] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:13] I'm just stuck on how to get HEAD into /var/www. [15:13] Alan_Hicks: good then [15:14] rab13s (~micemicer@core.routed.com) left irc: Quit: routing error [15:14] Alan_Hicks: you mentionned rsync, isn't it enough? [15:14] rab13s (~micemicer@core.routed.com) joined ##slackware. [15:15] adrien: i guess he wants to hook on when a commit happens to HEAD [15:15] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:16] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:16] adrien: It would be, if I knew where the files in HEAD were stored. [15:17] tusk: exactly [15:17] Alan_Hicks: there should an API for that better ask on #subversion [15:17] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:17] I'm in #svn, but the channel is dead. [15:18] you should have the files in that folder... [15:18] They ain't there. :-) [15:18] Wazzääääp slackers? [15:18] unless [15:19] Alan_Hicks: sorry can't help... i'm more into perforce API those days ^^ [15:19] Alan_Hicks: do you have a checkout of that repository? [15:19] adrien: Yeah I do. [15:20] I think I can hook it with "svn checkout" and then clean up the .svn files. Kinda ugly, but it could work. [15:20] and does it have the files? [15:20] adrien: yes [15:20] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@ppp-69-215-51-3.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:21] jdetring (~jay@adsl-70-234-189-83.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:21] so it's a bare repository, it won't have the files, maybe you can have it export the files as a tarball and you can work from that but it's pretty ugly [15:21] Thanks for the help anyway. [15:21] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [15:21] and while you were asking that, I finished to update my scripts which follow slackware in a git repository: follows the whole slackware64-current tree and the changelog =) [15:21] svn export -r $revision /path/to/blah [15:22] unless i misunderstanficication the problem [15:22] when ChangeLog.txt is updated on slackware.no, I make a full rsync and commit everything in git ;p [15:22] so you have a versioned -current? [15:22] I love cia.vc: show 2000 commits for the "linux" project today, merge window for 2.6.35 is definitely open ;p [15:23] mancha: oooh... that may work. Thanks. [15:23] mancha: yup, need to check it's working well (that computer had some downtime this week unfortunately) [15:23] leave out -r $rev and it uses HEAD [15:24] adrien, when did you start this? and will you link up a web-git for it? [15:24] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@adsl-99-20-199-131.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:24] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:24] dvel (~dvel@3.85.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:24] dvel (~dvel@3.85.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Changing host [15:24] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) joined ##slackware. [15:24] mancha: I started it last week after we mentionned it here, previously I only had the slackbuilds tracked and wasn't including xap/, x/, kde{,i}/ [15:25] mancha: Thanks man! That might be all I need to know. [15:25] aha, this was sparked when i was frantically looking for the kde4.3.4 scripts [15:25] ? [15:25] it's on my home computer though so I can't upload that fast (read up to 130KB/s) but I'm getting a dedicated with friends soon so I'll most probably host it there when the server is up =) [15:25] Alan, no problem, that should work based on how i read your problem... [15:26] yyp [15:26] yup* [15:26] I'm using the slackbuilds for a project of mine ([cross-]compiling to windows) so X was useless [15:26] adrien: you interested in beta testing newest dedibox? [15:27] actually now, there's a guy on #mingw-w64 on oftc which is porting KDE so I would have ended up needing that too :P [15:27] free dedibox up to 5 for those who give most bug report [15:27] tusk: I'll test. What's a dedibox? [15:27] tusk: hmmm, sounds nice :P [15:27] eviljames: .fr [15:28] eviljames: french dedicated servers [15:28] cheap service [15:28] really not for pro purposes [15:28] but low prices [15:28] you get what you pay ... [15:29] adrien: then join irc.free.fr [15:29] but kimsufi gives a quad-core for the same price /o\  (now, I don't know the compared reliabilities) [15:29] ask me in pv the guy name you have to ask for the details [15:29] tusk: thanks, gonna join but will wait until tomorrow, I need to catch up some sleep [15:29] semi-random question.. is anyone having problems using bluetooth devices on the 13.1 RC? [15:30] adrien: newest ones are bi quad cores with 2TB drives [15:30] something like that [15:30] how do they call a quarter pounder with cheese in france? :) [15:30] s/how/what [15:30] tusk: hmmmm =) [15:30] Action: adrien drools [15:30] i am tusk on irc.free.fr [15:30] PM me i'll give you details [15:31] or at least the name of the guy to ask [15:31] cause i personaly don't care about dediboxes :P [15:31] noooo, someone stole my nick there ='( [15:31] or more i don't give a fuck [15:31] we're students, we're poort ;-) [15:31] ^^ [15:32] i'm not student [15:32] neither poor [15:32] ^^ [15:33] alphageek, 13.1 RC has moved to BlueZ 4.x, A LOT has changed, so there is a good chance things won't work exactly as expected. What problem are you having? [15:34] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [15:34] tusk: you can send me a check if you feel too rich ;-) [15:34] MS3FGX: a complete absence of /dev/rfcomm0 even though rfcomm.ko is successfully loaded & initialized (so sayeth the logs) [15:34] Teratogen (leontopod@intertwingled.net) left irc: Quit: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer [15:34] adrien: no check in switzerland sorry :P [15:34] can't feel too rich [15:34] not possible [15:35] what I find truly strange is I have /dev/rfcomm0 but no /dev/rfkill on 32/13.0, yet I have /dev/rfkill but no /dev/rfcomm0 on 32/13.1RC2 [15:35] tusk: oh, right, you can hand me a briefcase full of notes ;-) [15:35] aka: exactly opposite [15:35] adrien_: No such nick/channel << get the fuck back !! [15:36] incognitus (~neam@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [15:36] hello all [15:36] alphageek: well, what's the state of the rfkill switch? (stupid but got to check, especially since my wifi's kill switch a is a real bitch) [15:36] MS3FGX: I've googled for the past while, but every 'solution' I've found appears to already be included in 13.1RC2 [15:36] i am trying to compile bluez-4 from current to my 13.0 slackware, but got an error [15:36] does anyone tried this [15:37] Urugami (~KB5YRZ@139.sub-97-196-149.myvzw.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:37] incognitus, BlueZ 4.x will build and run in Slack 13, but it lacks any tools to actually control it [15:37] whats /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf say? [15:37] wait [15:37] i cant compile [15:38] adrien: how to check? somewhere in /sys/ I assume [15:38] the error is cp: cannot create regular file `/tmp/package-bluez/lib/udev/bluetooth_serial': No such file or directory [15:38] i need bluez to compile bluman [15:38] alphageek: well, usually it's a physical switch ;-) [15:38] or wee, i just need a tool, an aplication to use my handy [15:39] also, dmesg should say if it's disabled or not (just /switch) [15:39] adrien: oh, that. bluetooth is definitely enabled at the hardware level [15:39] It is going to be a lot of work to get BlueZ 4.x running in Slack 13. Why do you need 4.x? [15:39] as I said above, rfcomm.ko is successfully loaded & initialized (so sayeth the logs) [15:39] i use xfce, and i need desktop tool to access my fon [15:40] mancha: was that to me? (rfcomm.conf) [15:40] alphageek, Perhaps a stupid question, but you are doing rfcomm connect and not bind right? Bind won't actually create /dev/rfcomm until needed [15:40] rab13s (~micemicer@core.routed.com) left irc: Quit: routing error [15:40] [ 5111.220692] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: RF_KILL bit toggled to disable radio. [15:40] MS3FGX: huh? [15:41] having or not the module doesn't impact that [15:41] thats why i wanted to see the conf, you can set up auto bind on startup [15:41] rab13s (~micemicer@core.routed.com) joined ##slackware. [15:42] alphageek, You won't have any rfcomm* devices until they are actually connected and being used, so if you do "rfcomm bind whatever", it is not going to create the device file until the connection actually happens [15:42] Conversely, "rfcomm connect" makes the connection immediately [15:42] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-171-250.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [15:43] bind yes; <-- should suffice in the .conf [15:43] http://omegageek.dyndns.org/~erik/rfcomm.conf [15:44] is that new? [15:44] i.e. made post-discussion.. [15:45] no, that's from earlier today [15:45] ok, as soon as your holux is around it should bind then... [15:46] if not try "rfcomm bind 0" [15:46] that brought it up (rfcomm bind 0) [15:46] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:47] slackytude (~slacky@e179054189.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:50] I'm just accustomed to the device being there all the time [15:50] catch-22 otherwise. can't access it if it's not there, won't be there until it's accessed [15:51] Yeah, the device files are only created when needed. When sitting idle, you won't have any rfcomm* files [15:51] which makes absolutely no sense to me. I'm obviously missing a subtle point [15:52] arcaos (~arcaos@host-12-205-154.linksat.net.ar) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:52] guax (~guax@189.34.46.63) joined ##slackware. [15:52] guax (~guax@189.34.46.63) left irc: Changing host [15:52] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [15:52] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [15:52] Well, why create the file if there is nothing to point to? The absence of the file will be a better way to tell the user the BT device isn't connected than creating a file that doesn't do anything [15:53] Certainly easier to catch in software too. If there is no file, just prompt the user to connect his device. If the file exists, start parsing it [15:54] that's just it. I had the gps sitting powered up beside the netbook since long before this discussion started. no device [15:54] the magic is broken :) [15:56] was the bt service restarted after that .conf with the auto-bind? [15:56] the netbook has been rebooted twice today since that config was created [15:57] if the bt service is started with that .conf and the bt device is on and in range, you should get a bind. [15:57] should, but don't [15:59] "bind" in rfcomm.conf only applies to when BlueZ starts, it doesn't bind devices automatically. If you wanted to have your machine wait for a connection from an already paired device, you would need to use rfcomm listen [15:59] Nick change: alema0 -> alema0ff [16:00] mancha: well, I have a few usable revisions of slackware, will still need more work (archiving especially, I don't have zetabytes of storage) but already usable [16:02] MS3FGX: or a more real life situation.. the netbook will be on most of the time, but the gps will come & go. will 'listen' be appropriate for that as well? [16:03] MS3FGX, it happent through compilation [16:03] 'come & go' as in be powered off when not in use [16:03] and i use slackbuild script form the source three of current [16:04] Lis (~Lis@dialbs-092-079-130-087.static.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:04] hi all [16:04] I installed slackware via dvd how do I find out weather I use the 64bit version? [16:05] :| [16:05] incognitus, There is no guarantee that Slackbuilds for -current will work on a previous stable release, and as I said, getting Blueman working with BlueZ 4 on Slackware 13 will take MUCH more work than just compiling those packages, trust me, I tried for a long time. [16:05] file /bin/bash [16:05] Lis, ^ [16:05] If you need a GUI for Bluetooth, either build kdebluetooth against the BlueZ 3.x in Slack 13, or wait for the 13.1 release with Blueman [16:05] wait [16:06] guax and another time someone wasted irc bandwidth [16:06] anyone? [16:06] i compilet all of packages need for bluez, the only thing remaining is bluez-4 [16:06] Lis, file /bin/bash [16:06] ah ok thanks [16:06] Lis, apologise now [16:06] or i will cry :~ [16:07] Action: guax cries [16:08] Lis (Lis@dialbs-092-079-130-087.static.arcor-ip.net) left ##slackware. [16:08] theres no education on the people today? [16:09] in [16:09] NaCl, thanks [16:10] Lis (~Lis@dialbs-092-079-130-087.static.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] Action: adrien hugs guax [16:11] it is not possible to execute 32bit on the 64bit version of slackware so I do not need to reinstall... [16:12] you can if you install multilib [16:12] adrien, thanks [16:12] Lis: of course it is possible, but you need the 32bit libraries alongside the 64bit ones [16:12] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [16:12] awesome, thanks [16:12] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-ebzzythwvozbhfct) left ##slackware. [16:15] Nick0 (~Nick0@ip-132-60-179-93.dialup.ice.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving! [16:17] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-kkvgyqtgepeahuwy) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:18] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-icloosafrlqmaxwq) joined ##slackware. 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[16:28] _I_ haven't, no [16:28] but several people here have and don't have troubles [16:28] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:28] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) joined ##slackware. [16:28] gaz- (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:28] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:28] my ktorrent crashes [16:29] i have to say KDE programs crash a lot [16:31] plasma was the kicker for me, it crashed so often, or ballooned to 800MB, that I threw it out and returned to the blessed cool of xfce [16:31] that's one shitty piece of code [16:32] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:32] xfce++ [16:32] KDE isn't exactly all what its cracked up to be. [16:33] the latest clamav definitions successfully remove kde [16:34] brainvision (~brainvisi@host173-94-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:34] incognitus (~neam@212.233.209.134) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:35] wow theres no CURRENT.WARNING in slackware64-current atm. what does that mean? [16:35] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-153-98.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:36] It's gone for a while already [16:36] All kinds or small clean-ups. The READMEs have been refreshed too, at least some [16:36] hadnt rsynced for 3 days the 64 branch [16:37] jailbox (~laj2@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:37] dvel (~dvel@unaffiliated/dvel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:37] rahul_ (~rahul@p54AA433E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] since d/mercurial upgraded [16:39] does the alien script mirror_slackware-current.sh mirror the source folder also? [16:39] probably [16:39] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [16:39] open it and look? [16:40] It does rahul_ [16:40] Lis (~Lis@dialbs-092-079-130-087.static.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de [16:40] But you can exclude it if you want [16:40] alienBOB, can i prevent it , how [16:40] artv61 (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] you should probably ipen it and read it anyway [16:41] i think it explains it [16:42] thank you sahko for the great help, you should join customer care in hell [16:42] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:43] rahul_ : Create a file (give it the name "exclude_file" for instance) with the word "source" in it (not the "") and then run the script with the "-X exclude_file" parameter [16:43] That way the script will exclude the directory named "source" [16:44] does this mean it will not download the "source" stuff, or it will download, but not put in the iso [16:44] i am having a hard time here, i tried upgradin to 13.1 thrice and failed, twice using slackpkg and once manually using upgradepkg --install-new [16:45] so this is my last attempy [16:45] zuluh (~AndChat@166.196.158.166) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:45] are you using the back-to-future slackpkg? [16:45] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:46] is there a better option mancha i mean a better way to upgrade [16:46] its explained it UPGRADE.TXT , but you should probably want someone to spell it for you [16:46] i was just making a clever joke since there's no 13.1 yet [16:47] its slack to the future [16:47] heh [16:47] brainvision (~brainvisi@host198-26-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:48] omg linux doesnt have documentation. thats bug#1. i guess people not reading it is #0 [16:49] :) [16:50] bug #-1, some people dont like to help [16:51] bug #-2, some other people try to help without knowing what they're talking about [16:52] is slava_dp here? [16:52] interesting bug -2 [16:54] what could cause a local mc (the relevant bits of which are line-drawing characters) to display correctly, but a remote one to garble into chinese ideograms ? local and remote locales are both UTF8 [16:55] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-71-20.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] and if i use rsync_current.sh, how do i exclude source from being downloaded? [16:55] TERM settings [16:56] adaptr: what does options/display bits say? [16:56] rahul_: alienBOB told you above [16:56] sahko: full 8 bits, usually. [16:57] sahko: I have never seen this particular issue across a gazillion different OSen [16:57] that was for miror_current sahko, bug #-2 [16:57] mc=midnight commander? [16:57] yes [16:57] the term is just an xterm [16:57] what is being used to connect from teh remote? [16:58] it works on any other OS, be it freebsd, linux, or windows (putty) [16:58] openssh ? [16:58] adaptr: but does it say UTF-8? (in display bits)? [16:58] sahko: it never has [16:58] but I tried that, doesn't matter [16:58] what is the TERM [16:58] it looks like there is one step in the chain that simply doesn't understand it [16:58] mancha: xterm! [16:58] goddamn it [16:58] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:59] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: home [16:59] xterm isnt utf8 aware by default [16:59] try uxterm [16:59] what does that mean, "by default" ? [16:59] I never said that I am using *the* xterm. that's ancient. I am using, alternatively, xfce terminal and or aterm [16:59] you have to pass for example xterm*utf8: 2 [16:59] nvision (~nvision@g229053071.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:00] in .Xdefaults [17:00] that can be made with a commandline switch dont remember exactly how [17:00] sahko: a local xterm works properly, it ain't that. [17:00] xterm -u8 [17:01] imagine, if you will: identical local xterm terminal windows, started the exact same way. one runs mc locally, and works. the other is ssh'd in to a remote and doesn't work. [17:01] the remote os is slackware? [17:01] however, ssh'ing ito that remote from anythig else, anywhere else, also works [17:01] no, ubuntu 8.04, and irrelevant. it works. [17:02] it is a specific issue between the ubuntu sshd and the slackware ssh client [17:02] ubuntu 8.04 doesnt have a utf8 aware mc [17:02] is it 4.6.x ? [17:02] however, line-drawing chars are had [17:02] lemme check [17:03] 4.7p1 [17:03] zuluh (~AndChat@166.196.235.137) joined ##slackware. [17:03] ah well, I am now upgrading that to 10.04, will check again after that [17:05] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-197.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:05] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [17:05] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. 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[17:15] brainvision (~brainvisi@host198-26-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:15] Hi, I'm hoping someone can help me out, I'm having a problem with booting into my new installation [17:16] I first get an error stating that "VFS: Cannot open root device" and to "Please append a correct root= boot option" and gives me options of sda1 sda2 and sda3 [17:17] so I try adding root=/dev/sda3 to my boot string since the third partion on the disk is the one I defined as / in the setup [17:18] I get further into the boot process, but then i'm stopped by an error stating that "/sbin/e2fsck: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hda3" [17:19] mac- (mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:21] Sarago: since you don't have that, it's not a problem [17:21] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@adsl-99-20-199-131.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:22] however, e2fsck takes that from fstab, which apparently contains incorrect info [17:22] adaptr: the problem is my fstab has /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 and /dev/hda3 and apparently, it should be sda [17:22] but I can't edit [17:22] fstab should always be on root [17:23] if it's mounted ro, remount it rw first [17:23] how do I do that? [17:23] mount /dev/sda3 / [17:23] ? [17:24] Sarago: did you do the install in a virtual machine to save a blank cd? [17:25] Guest97763 (~AndChat@166.196.235.137) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:25] Andersffs (~Shitbag@217.175.122.46) left irc: Quit: Lämnar [17:25] fror: what? no I installed by booting to a usb stick and downloaded packages over the internet [17:25] okay, so I'm in maintenance mode, what do I do to edit that fstab? [17:25] vi ? [17:25] nano ? [17:26] but it's read only and won't let me save the file [17:26] hi alienBOB, thanks for doing your good job updating the multilib stuff and keeping that ChangeLog.txt ! [17:26] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:26] Sarago: what does mount -v tell you ? [17:26] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:27] Sarago: i was just wondering why the installer wrote hda into fstab. nevermind [17:27] mount -v won't run, says /etc/mtab is not writable [17:27] r_linux (~r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:28] and just mount ? [17:28] same thing [17:28] rockslinux (~chatzilla@213.87.194.116) joined ##slackware. [17:28] that's bad [17:28] zuluh (~AndChat@166.196.235.137) joined ##slackware. [17:28] hi all! [17:29] Sarago: does cat /proc/mounts work ? [17:29] Nick change: zuluh -> GNUNietzsche [17:29] yes cat /proc/mounts gives me information [17:30] is the root fs mounted readonly ? [17:30] GNUNietzsche (~AndChat@166.196.235.137) left irc: Client Quit [17:30] adaptr: /dev/root / ext3 ro,relatime,errors=continue,data=ordered 0 0 [17:31] mac- (mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:31] Sarago: then run mount -o remount /dev/root [17:31] ls -l /dev/root [17:32] adaptr: mount: can't find /dev/root in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab [17:32] bah. is that sda3 ? [17:32] then run mount -o remount /dev/sda3 / [17:32] yes sda3 [17:33] /dev/root is the alias assigned by the kernel [17:34] okay, I was able to edit the /etc/fstab [17:34] ex-squeez me, ls -l /dev/root [17:34] mancha: who cares ? it's mounted [17:34] i care [17:34] mancha: /dev/root -> sda3 [17:35] mancha before I issued adaptr's last mount command, that's what it said [17:35] Sarago ok, carry on then. [17:35] Sarago: you could now also mount the others, but go on and reboot [17:36] so I've edited fstab, I should just be able to do "exit [enter]" and reboot right? [17:37] linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0 [17:38] Yay! it booted! [17:38] I still need to fix lilo so I don't have to enter root=/dev/sda3 all the time [17:40] rheault (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] you need to edit /etc/lilo.conf and then run lilo [17:41] skywise: ah, I was just looking that up, thanks [17:42] Sarago (chegney@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG) left ##slackware. [17:43] Sarago (~chegney@97-116-91-65.mpls.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [17:43] alright, chatting from the new system [17:46] it says root has mail, how do I read it? [17:46] which mail doesn't find anything [17:46] type mail [17:46] mail: command not found [17:47] mutt [17:47] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:47] mutt: command not found [17:47] Sarago: uhmm, so install it :) [17:47] try installing stuff next time you "install" stuff [17:48] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] I followed the instructions at http://slackwiki.org/Minimal_System [17:49] I wanted to get a slim system, but installed all libraries and all X items which he didn't have [17:49] forgot to choose a mail client [17:49] apparently [17:50] Clio (~Clio@nat-84-16-60-38.extel.sk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:50] can packages be installed from over the net? [17:51] I installed pkgtools [17:53] credo (~cherchez@80.233.147.119) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:53] pkgtools can access stuff that's available to local filesystem only. it can't do http/ftp/etc. for that you'd need slackpkg [17:53] Sarago if his system doesn't include mailx at the least, it is a braindead compilation [17:53] i've got slackpkg [17:53] i'd not follow anything else written by whoever wrote your guide [17:53] yoyoned (~todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:55] you can also d/l the package from a mirror with wget (do you have wget?) and then installpkg [17:55] yes I have wget [17:57] links [17:57] how do i declare multiple retrievers in .getmailrc? [17:57] I can use that too [17:57] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:57] wget http://favorite-mirror-here/slackware-13.0/slackware/n/mailx-12.4-i486-1.txz or summuts [17:58] i assume you're on slack v13.0? [17:58] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Quit: ZNC by prozac - http://znc.sourceforge.net [17:58] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-icloosafrlqmaxwq) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:59] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Client exiting [17:59] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:01] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426411.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:02] fror (~fror@brln-4d0c709d.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:04] I did slackware-current during the install [18:04] that explains the sda stuff [18:04] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [18:06] why's that? [18:06] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [18:07] kernel configuration changes between 13.0 and -current [18:08] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:09] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host81-153-238-150.range81-153.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:09] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current/CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT *** LIBATA SWITCHOVER *** [18:12] arcaos (~arcaos@190.177.34.29) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:14] metrofox (metrofox@ppp-171-250.33-151.iol.it) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [18:15] yeah, it bit a lot of people in the ass [18:16] LnxSlck (LnxSlck@95.69.114.42) joined ##slackware. [18:16] OffPlanet (~meler@ppp-69-106-133-46.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] so slack doesnt support .tgz nmore? [18:17] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:17] it does [18:17] just prefer .txz, but it supports tgz [18:17] it supports .tbz, .tgz, .tlz, .txz [18:17] it just supports txz too [18:17] i guess phrase that wrong... what i mean is...we are trying to get rid .tgz? [18:17] bzip2, gzip, lzma, xz (respectively) [18:17] no [18:18] txz is higher compression [18:18] oic [18:18] that's all [18:18] "rid of" is inaccurate i think. [18:18] alphageek, are those in order? [18:18] better compression == more fits on disk [18:18] ahhh [18:18] crashdata: alphabetical, yeah :) [18:18] lolz :) [18:19] i thought we started with tbz then tgz ... and so on [18:19] from worst to best is (roughly): gzip, bzip2, lzma, xz. there are exceptions, but this is the typical order [18:19] hmmm [18:19] that 'worst to best' as far as compression ratio goes [18:20] we came alogn way [18:20] yup yup [18:20] eventually i wanna learn to how package [18:20] software [18:20] as for compression _time_, typically gzip, xz.. then a mile down the road is bzip2. can't remember where lzma sits [18:21] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-234-169.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] hi [18:21] konishi wa [18:21] kit and kaboodle to you too [18:21] kombawa (not sure about the spelling) [18:21] i presume xz and lzma are right next to each other :) [18:22] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-234-169.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [18:22] mancha: but in which order. again, depends on what you're archiving [18:23] .xz is a container for lzma2 compressed stuff [18:24] they use the same libs & most of the same algos, but they are subtly different [18:26] anyhow, been awake way too long (I believe I've passed the 30 hour mark). time to drop [18:27] you are right, i was just predicting these cousins would be next to each other on your spectrum... [18:29] though i've not benchmarked these things to any degree [18:30] Oh noes.... no package for openbox? [18:30] have [18:31] Nikon (~mythx@fl-67-232-251-120.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] hello slackware [18:31] im lost and confused [18:31] schoene (~mark@cpe-65-189-215-224.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:31] Nikon: are you? [18:31] yes thumbs [18:32] life in general? [18:32] :( [18:32] mostly because i cannot find how to install twisted in slackware [18:32] life is ok [18:32] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/python-twisted/ [18:32] Nikon: is there a slackbuild for it? [18:32] apparently, there is. Use that. [18:33] :o [18:33] thx [18:33] that's 1 less confuse person in the world :) [18:33] gj [18:33] crashdata: 100 more were just born to eventually take his place :P [18:34] deximat (~deximat@79.101.236.168) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:34] raela, only 100? :) [18:34] and the cycle of life begins :) [18:34] fire|bird: call me optimistic [18:34] lol [18:34] is there a slackware package or openbox? [18:34] one step forward 2 steps backward [18:35] Sarago: did you look at slackbuilds? [18:35] Sarago: search http://slackbuilds.org [18:35] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [18:35] slackpkg version transition confusion! using oregonstate slackware64-13.0 then went to slackware64-13.1 until I got changelog not found errors. moved to slackware64-current. Is that where I should be get 13.1-rc2 updates? [18:35] no, so it's not part of the official distribution then [18:36] yes [18:36] yes [18:36] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/desktop/openbox/ [18:36] Nikon (mythx@fl-67-232-251-120.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware ("hugs slackware"). [18:36] keep the spoon. [18:36] do I add slackbuilds to my mirrors list so I can use slackpkg? [18:36] lol [18:36] Action: NaCl retracts his [18:36] Sarago: no. [18:36] Sarago: use sbopkg [18:37] http://www.slacky.eu/aadm/pkgs/index.php?ver=13&pkg=119 [18:38] Richlv (~rich@80.232.234.137) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:38] but, 3.4.11.2 / May 14, 2010 [18:39] but, small changes [18:40] rockslinux: Use openbox from SBo. [18:40] ? [18:41] not understand [18:41] rockslinux: I'm trying to figure out why you're posting these openbox links, I assumed it was asking what to use. [18:41] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426411.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:41] rockslinux: In which case, the answer is almost always slackbuilds.org [18:41] If you cannot find something on SBo (Slackbuilds.org), make a slackbuild for it and submit. [18:42] Fenix-Dark (~lkjdj@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] hello gents [18:42] alphad64 (~alphad@196.201.85.156) joined ##slackware. [18:43] gaz- (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:44] Sorry, but that only two links for your convenience. What's that? [18:44] eviljames: ehhh but if it's something kind of rare.. is it worth submitting? [18:44] eviljames: for example, the genetic analysis stuff I use [18:45] LnxSlck (LnxSlck@95.69.114.42) left irc: Quit: Saindo [18:45] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) joined ##slackware. [18:45] raela: if it's not on sbo, it's worth submitting. [18:46] i agree with thumbs, raela [18:46] yay! I fought with 10.04 and I won! (well, enough to get BIND and ssh and znc back up...) [18:47] raela: what thumbs said. [18:47] adaptr: You could've been using something useful, like 13.1RC2 instead, you know. [18:47] eviljames: he's migrating his ubuntu servers to slackware, actually. [18:47] Ah, good. [18:47] i have slackware 13 running on my modded intel NAS without too much fancy stuff setup. I'm thinking about upgrading to 13.1 and giving another shot into getting more media managing/streaming software working and anything else useful i can think of. How complicated is it to get an media server backend setup to stream music/videos that'll be recognized by itunes/xbox360/windows media player/etc [18:48] Fenix-Dark: 13.1 is not out yet [18:48] well, maybe I'll work on that tonight.. though I'd be shocked if someone else wanted to use something like eigenstrat (which is a pain in the ass to deal with, actually..) [18:48] thumbs, oh i know, gonna wait for it to be released [18:49] eviljames: I promised publicly that I would switch to slackware if 10.04 proved to be moronic [18:49] so far, I have yet to see any morone-ness [18:49] (a dist-upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 SHOULD be delightfully sadomasochistic) [18:50] I have seen.. ooh, about 25 configs flash by that weren't upgraded, so I have lots of fun waiting [18:50] adaptr: have you ever merged .new files in slackware? [18:50] once or twice [18:51] adaptr: ok. [18:51] debuntu has no such option :) [18:51] it's either "here, take this, it's more better newer", or "what are you, an idiot ? well, keep your old stuff then" [18:52] oh, you can VIEW the diffs in 6 different ways, but editing... of course not, that would be....useful [18:52] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [18:52] adaptr: yes, I like how slackware handles this. [18:52] caixabox (~c9354157@gateway/web/freenode/x-rpskltmnmacmxyku) left irc: Quit: Page closed [18:53] mm I must try it more often then [18:53] what in pats name is adaptr on about ... this is not the tls mental home ... (yet?) [18:53] I can't remember what I thought of it, so maybe it was..unremarkable ? which is a good thing [18:53] jg71: why did you steal my initials and birth year ? [18:54] i felt lucky. [18:54] am I talking to myself again ? through an IRC bouncer no less [18:54] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. 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[19:12] soo.. i appear to have killed kde somehow [19:12] that's not hard [19:12] hi :) [19:12] yeah.. i don't really even know how i did it [19:12] i was playing some gens, fullscreen, and it froze, which it does on occasion [19:13] so i rebooted [19:13] because it wouldn't minimize [19:13] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:13] and... now startx returns a world of errors [19:13] slackpkg reinstall kde :) [19:14] yeah, i guess that's where i'm aat [19:14] at* [19:15] i really don't want this to happen again.. i just have no idea how i did it in the first place lol [19:15] kde recent is good [19:16] well i'm reinstalling kde right now, so we'll see how it goes [19:16] slackpkg install ratpoison && init 4 [19:16] what's ratpoison? [19:17] a window manager so minimalist you will think it's a CLI [19:17] haha [19:17] I kid you not [19:17] well i mean, i'm a fan of kde4 [19:18] excluding the nepomuk and akonadi thing.. still have no idea what those are for [19:18] I was, some of its features are nice, but after months of crashes and bloat, I did the sane thing [19:18] nepomuk is like WIndows search.. background memory and CPU hog [19:18] oh, like an explorer search type thing? [19:18] akonadi tries to be everything at once, and fails, as all such things do [19:18] i gotcha [19:18] a search indexer and information gatherer [19:19] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] akonadi tries to do network zeroconf, personal info storage, and a few more unrelated things [19:19] I disable both on sight [19:19] of course [19:19] same here [19:19] they're easy enough to disable [19:20] AND the damn networkmanager - that shite NEVER gets it right [19:20] srsly, ne-ver [19:20] eh, wicd works [19:20] adaptr: use wicd. [19:20] its on the slackdisc, and it works quite nicely [19:21] I just installed an NST box (fedora11) and it has 2 NICs, one internal (static) and one layer 2 (TAP). it keeps trying to "enable" the internal NIC because it thinks it HAS to do DHCP on it, and it keeps telling me that the second NIC shouldn't exist, and won't let me edit it. networkmanager is UBER FAIL [19:21] wicd! [19:21] lol [19:22] fedora 11? isn't that gnome? [19:22] or did they change it [19:22] i had fedora 8 for a long time, but of course the repos start dissappearing after awhile and updates cease to exist.. kinda ruins it [19:23] Fenix-Dark (~lkjdj@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:24] yeah, it';s gnome, but networkmanager is networkmanager [19:24] yeah, i remember it worked ok on my laptop awhile back [19:25] i'm watching some royal tenenbaums.. so good. [19:27] lol.. the incest throws me off a bit though. [19:29] Nick change: alema0ff -> alema0 [19:31] alphad64_ (~alphad@196.201.85.152) joined ##slackware. [19:31] alphad64 (~alphad@196.201.85.156) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:34] awh shit [19:34] the reinstall didn't work [19:35] ratpoison would work fine; you could live up to your nick, too [19:35] haha [19:35] i was thinking about running xfce [19:35] but i dunno [19:37] xfce is sweet [19:37] fast [19:37] capable [19:37] runs qt and gtk apps [19:37] no cruft [19:37] no bloat [19:37] kde4 is pretty fast right now, but yeah, that's why i'd rock xfce [19:37] qt and gtk [19:37] kde4 is a hog compared to xfce [19:37] oh of course [19:37] a sow, even [19:38] i ran xubuntu on a real old laptop awhile back and i was shocked at how smooth it ran [19:38] but i mean, i dunno, any linux window manager is smoother than windows lol [19:39] rockslinux (chatzilla@213.87.194.116) left ##slackware. [19:40] not really [19:40] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@ip174-64-14-107.br.br.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [19:40] KDE4 crashes about 10 times more often than win7 for me [19:40] hmm xz seems to utilize only 1 core [19:42] well, i haven't used win7 yet [19:42] my dad has 10 copies downstairs..he offered me one lol.. but no desire to try it [19:44] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:45] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUBB1lOLD6k [19:45] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [19:45] RICK ROLL [19:45] not [19:46] lol.. seriously? [19:46] off of big willie style? [19:46] after comedy central pulled the ultimate rick roll, live with rick in person, its just not the same. [19:46] its impossible to top the macy days parade [19:47] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Client Quit [19:47] ArTourter (~artourter@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:47] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. 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[19:49] wicd is very nice [19:49] yes it is [19:49] i love it [19:49] Rashid-: where do i find it [19:49] in /extra [19:49] it's not on slackbuilds [19:49] zoran119: in /extra [19:49] oh... /extra [19:49] on the dvd [19:49] coll [19:49] *cool [19:49] ;] [19:50] any guides out there on how to get suspend to work inside things like xmonad and such [19:50] non-kde things [19:51] when the lid is closed for example [19:51] zoran119: ive always had issues with suspend even now i only use it if my battery goes flat dead and i dont wanna shutdown [19:51] shit doesnt always come back up right [19:51] but my laptop has a 6-8 hour battery life, so i rarely need it [19:54] that will be interesting then [19:55] it seems to work in kde... [19:55] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:55] zoran119: you could write acpi scripts. see inside /etc/acpi/ for example, or man acpid, the internet [19:56] sahko: ok... [19:56] sahko: is there a way to call whatever kde calls? [19:56] mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) left irc: Quit: Support freenode - http://bit.ly/3NtvfD [19:57] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-426411.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:57] kde calls pm-utils [19:57] one more thing... how do i check the battery level from command line? [20:00] functionoverform (~mranderso@adsl-99-141-206-127.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:00] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] you could write a script that checks the /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/ entries [20:01] i maintain the 'acpi' package in slackbuilds.org, you might wanna check it out [20:02] sahko: ah... acpi is what i was after [20:02] mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) joined ##slackware. [20:03] my battery gets 2 hours :( [20:04] Nick change: alema0 -> alema0ff [20:05] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [20:05] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [20:06] twoshot_: i'm not going to get event that much [20:06] twoshot_: was getting 1:45 in ubuntu (up to 2 hours) [20:07] twoshot_: but running kde at the moment... it seems to drain pretty quick [20:09] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [20:10] _S4MUR4I_ (~chatzilla@189.23.132.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091105041600] [20:10] Azeotrope (~JBauer@193.239.140.184) joined ##slackware. [20:10] Azeotrope (~JBauer@193.239.140.184) left irc: Changing host [20:10] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [20:11] Azeotrope (JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left ##slackware. [20:13] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:19] ashe (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:19] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-68.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] ashe (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [20:30] cteg_ (~heretic@dyndsl-085-016-101-211.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [20:32] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [20:34] cteg (~heretic@dyndsl-085-016-203-027.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:37] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:39] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:40] is there a silc client binary package that will work on slackware 13? [20:41] i can't get any joy on google for this one. [20:47] jdef (~jdef@186-44-78-207.dynamic.tstt.net.tt) joined ##slackware. [20:48] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [20:49] How to setup lilo to boot xp and windows 7? [20:49] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [20:49] datace: add an entry. [20:49] i see [20:50] datace: man lilo.conf [20:50] which line should i put on the entry [20:51] chances are liloconf will correctly detect your OSes and do it for you.. [20:51] how to add both windows xp and windows 7 partition on lilo.conf [20:54] please [20:54] alphad64_ (~alphad@196.201.85.152) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:58] do you know what partition they are on? [21:00] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:00] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left ##slackware. [21:01] after running slackpkg update, upgrade-all on a 13.0 installation is it safe to say I am up to date [21:01] or is install-new also required [21:03] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [21:04] woudnd't doing: make 2>&1 > build.txt copy everything to the build.txt file? [21:06] jtrol (~root@116.227.87.101) joined ##slackware. [21:06] got it nevermind [21:07] can I not get gnome and gdm on slackware? [21:08] gnome slackbuild or dropline [21:08] gnome slackbuild aka gsb [21:09] yeah, that doesn't work [21:09] has for me [21:10] I tried that and I get a whole bunch of things that look like they download, but see errors GPGME: Not operational and it fails saying sources aren't available [21:10] azbr00 (~timothy@121.91.69.181) joined ##slackware. [21:10] Did you check their site for any pointers? [21:11] seems no chinease here [21:11] ooh, nice. Steam is hiring - one of their responsibilities: " Port Windows-based games to the Linux platform." [21:11] jtrol (~root@116.227.87.101) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:12] Make that Valve, but still. [21:13] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:14] azbr00 (timothy@121.91.69.181) left ##slackware. [21:15] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] greetings and salutations [21:17] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:17] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:18] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] ArTourter (~artourter@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [21:20] mtkoan (mtkoan@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-ogtxzsecrofnneok) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:21] ArTourter (~artourter@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:21] mtkoan (mtkoan@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-wefjjicwogcnvgjz) joined ##slackware. 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[21:53] _Jim_ (~Jim@058-050-080-189.macapaonline.com.br) left irc: Quit: _Jim_ [21:54] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-240-222.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:54] TheGroove (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:55] TheGroove (default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [21:59] yoyoned (~todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] jgeboski (james@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [22:06] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:18] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-71-20.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Write error: Connection reset by peer [22:18] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:19] any tool to choose fastest mirror for slackware updates? [22:19] wget and some testing maybe? [22:20] Rashid- (~Rashid__@adsl-90-3-225.mob.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:21] or a map? ;) [22:22] SeroMer^ (~cb796003@gateway/web/freenode/x-pwjkawyqxgyqwzdp) joined ##slackware. [22:23] Rashid- (~Rashid__@adsl-90-3-195.mob.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:23] hi rashid [22:25] I read somewhere there was a tool thought someone here might have used it. Thanks anyways. [22:26] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] estranho (~diogo@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:28] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-71-20.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:30] Sherlock1 (~oldhp@d232075.tidewater.net) joined ##slackware. [22:31] Hey room [22:33] Sherlock1: no, it's called a channel [22:33] Excuse me, Hey channel [22:35] Sherlock1: did you have a question? [22:36] AOl'er.. ew [22:36] ;) [22:36] Yes..but Its for Vector Linux, I installed Open Office with the Gslapt package manager and it installed correctly except that it is not showing up in the Office menu [22:36] Dominian: asl? ;D [22:37] Sherlock1: vector linux is not slackware. [22:37] Sherlock1: ask #vector or #vectorlinux [22:37] I know :( they are not answering [22:37] haha [22:37] Sherlock1: so wait. [22:37] or #notslackware [22:37] so you think a channel for a different distro will work? [22:37] but it's such a dummy question i though you guys would know [22:37] try ##linux or ##linuxhelp [22:37] Sherlock1: we're not gonna answer you, sorry. [22:38] Vector is based on slack [22:38] so? gslapt isn't slack [22:38] go google it [22:38] Sherlock1, that's like saying a chevy is based on a car, so ford should honor the warranty [22:38] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] so...you guys wanna show me how to install open office through terminal? [22:39] Sherlock1: install slackware first. [22:39] Sherlock1: use a slackbuild :) [22:39] Something tells me you guys don't really like Vector... [22:39] thats simple, with this :: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/office/openoffice.org/ [22:39] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [22:39] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [22:39] Sherlock1: we're telling how to do it with slackware. [22:39] this channel is here to support slackware. not any distro that branches and goes on its own path [22:39] we don't like derivatives that change slackware too much - especially package managment setups [22:40] Sherlock1: install slackware, and we'll help you. [22:40] Im not a linux guru, i just like it when it works but I always need help to fix the most simple of things [22:40] Sherlock1: install slackware, and we'll help you. [22:41] I'm downloading it right now [22:41] or better yet, install slackware and use the slackbuild... [22:41] Sherlock1: so wait to ask until you get slack on then, or wait for the vector guys to respond [22:41] or, if Vector is so close we should help, the slackbuild would work on vector too :) [22:41] in either case, problem solved :) [22:42] Would slackware work on a 10yr old laptop with 256MB of RAM and a 700MHz p111? [22:42] thats what i'm on right now [22:42] yup [22:42] yes. [22:42] don't use KDE. [22:43] you could probably use an earlier KDE [22:43] or a ion3ds.SlackBuild :) [22:44] Action: pazof likes the work "or" [22:44] word* [22:45] Should I get the Slackware 13.0 x86 DVD ISO? [22:45] for sure [22:45] I have DVD's and CD's here so... [22:45] does your 10 year old laptop have a dvd drive? [22:45] does your 10yo 700MHz pIII computer have a working DVD? [22:45] Yes it does [22:45] then yes [22:45] that you can boot from? [22:46] really? [22:46] Yes...I have a newer laptop that i can use to download and burn the dvd from...the hard drive in this thing is so slow [22:46] otherwise, get cd1 to boot, then put in the dvd to install [22:46] yoyoned (~todd@c-68-51-26-64.hsd1.ar.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:46] but it runs linux like a champ [22:47] I wasn't talking about the d/l burn cycle, I was talking about the older computer booting from DVD [22:47] I"ve had older pIII hardware that wouldn't boot from a dvd [22:47] jdef (~jdef@186-44-78-207.dynamic.tstt.net.tt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:48] I believe it will boot fine, I tried a dvd live disc earlier and it booted [22:48] then you shouldn't have any problems [22:48] 2010 owned [22:49] K i'm downloading the slackware DVD via torrent at 650KB/s [22:50] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:50] get faster internets... speed that puppy up [22:51] cteg_ (~heretic@dyndsl-085-016-101-211.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Quit: this is who we are [22:52] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:52] It's the fastest internet in town, i live in rural maine [22:54] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [22:56] we have 105 Mb cable coming soon. I wants it [22:56] amazing [22:56] Id need a new hard drive if I got that [22:57] I needed more space and I only ahve 12/2 [22:58] The new 2TB drives are around $110 now [22:58] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:58] I would like one of thoughs [22:59] I have 2 1.5 TB drives in my server [22:59] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-6-213.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:59] slink (copy@node-43.blackcore.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] :) [22:59] gotta love storage [22:59] hi. anyone have any ideas why it would take a minute for a computer we just built to POST? we're also getting CMOS checksum errors [23:00] one of my coworkers has an 18-drive 1.5T diskset raid setup in his closet [23:00] I have 4 1TB and 2 640GB drives in my desktop [23:01] slink could be hardware or a bad bios [23:01] my brother's friend sent him motherboard+cpu+fan+memory, we put a new PSU in it and video card [23:02] slink: try new video card/ram/cpu if you can.. strip it down to the bare essentials and see if it changes anything.. [23:02] so either it got damaged during shipping or we're overlooking something. right now he is reapplying thermal paste because the system is idling at 59C [23:02] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:02] Nick change: alema0ff -> alema0 [23:02] wescotte: we just unplugged the drives hooked up and it made no difference. we can try a different video card though. in addition we're using a television with HDMI but i cannot see that making that big of effort [23:03] unless it is taking a minute to init the video [23:03] slackaholic (1000@189-93-177-213.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:03] hdmi can be picky. [23:03] slink: might take some time to handshake the hdmi.. could be the problem [23:04] yeah i just thought of that, i am going to try a regular VGA monitor after he does the thermal [23:04] initially we tried a DVI -> HDMI [23:04] Wdyy (~AndChat@117.136.26.138) joined ##slackware. [23:04] but it still ends up with the HDMI endpoint [23:04] Nick change: alema0 -> alema0ff [23:05] what about the CMOS checksum error, is that a sign of a bad battery, or just a bad cmos? [23:05] try resetting the BIOS to defaults and reconfigure it [23:05] you could try replacing the BIOS battery...when i bought a new motherboard a while back it came with a dead battery [23:05] we did have to clear the CMOS to get it to initially to boot because it was failing to post, but again, we didn't know about the 1 minute post issue [23:05] bummer [23:05] should that fail try flashing the BIOS with an upgrade [23:06] if that fails get a new BIOS :) [23:06] i was thinking about trying to find a cmos battery in another motherboard, is the only requirement the voltage? [23:06] thanks for the help, i appreciate it [23:06] they sell them in convenience stores [23:06] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:06] convenience stores? [23:06] they are the hearing aid batteries...i think 3.0 volts or 3.2...lemee check [23:06] when you say convenience stores i think of 7-11 [23:06] the flat round ones [23:06] oh [23:06] i didn't know you could just use those [23:07] we have some old mobos around [23:07] typically cr2013 [23:07] but the main issue is just the long boot time, and hot cpu [23:07] or cr2024 [23:07] wont find them at such places around here [23:07] i didn't know cpu's didn't have pins anymore :x [23:07] been forever since i've seen one built [23:07] s/13/16/ [23:07] it may not be the battery at all... [23:08] yeah [23:08] thats the extent of my expertise for checksum errors [23:08] i'm going afk, going to go eat and help him [23:08] again thanks for the help, i'll see about getting a new battery anyways [23:08] afk [23:09] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-6-213.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] Sherlock1 (~oldhp@d232075.tidewater.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:11] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [23:14] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.136.118) left irc: Quit: I'll be back... [23:15] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.115.210) joined ##slackware. [23:19] fiyawerx_: are you still watching clint- ? [23:27] I chose not to install kde/kdm during the install to save time in getting the system up, what do I install now to get both of them? [23:30] install the packages in the k category, Sarago [23:30] using upgradepkg --install-new [23:30] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.136.118) joined ##slackware. [23:31] oops, kde i mean, not k [23:33] upgradepkg --install-new does nothing [23:33] use pkgtool or slackpkg then [23:34] however "upgradepkg --install-new * while in the dir should work [23:34] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-153-20.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] oops, "upgradepkg --install-new *" [23:35] :) [23:35] I installed the system over the internet, so I don't have the cds. pkgtool will not work [23:35] slackpkg then [23:36] for slackpkg would it be slackpkg install kde? [23:36] slackpkg install kde [23:36] for more details see "man slackpkg" [23:37] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@ip174-64-14-107.br.br.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:39] rheault (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:40] |Slacker| (~cris@189.65.39.5) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:41] anybody have any issues with upgrading packages and having an upgraded package installed alongside the actual package? [23:41] ls -l /var/log/packages/rednotebook* [23:41] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19296 2010-02-23 17:39 /var/log/packages/rednotebook-0.9.3-i486-1_SBo-upgraded-2010-05-03,17:11:05 [23:42] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15498 2010-05-21 17:30 /var/log/packages/rednotebook-0.9.5-i486-1_SBo [23:42] interesting how you got that "upgraded" in there [23:43] you must have done installpkg on two different SBo packages named similar [23:43] yeah, not sure how that happened [23:43] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:43] solutions: 1) do nothing 2) remove one 3) remove both and then install one [23:44] most likely ok since i believe pkgtools won't let you remove files used in other packages [23:44] I can remove the 0.9.5 package but I'm not sure what the upgraded package name is called [23:44] removepkg rednotebook doesn't work on the upgraded one [23:44] you just showed us what its called [23:44] you need to be more specific [23:44] removepkg rednotebook-0.9.3-i486-1 [23:47] I figured it was that but didn't find an easy way to find the installed package name [23:47] you showed us though with the ls command [23:47] finally, 'removepkg rednotebook-0.9.3-i486-1_SBo-upgraded' worked [23:47] what the name was [23:47] :) cool [23:47] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:48] takin a break, playin a round, care to join? /connect 68.232.181.211 [23:48] yeah, lets all connect to some random ip address [23:54] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-153-20.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:55] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [23:56] slackaholic (1000@189-93-177-213.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: BY(t)E BY(t)E _o/ [23:56] okay, you first [23:56] send in a bot army :o [23:57] rookie (Rookie@111.174.16.234) joined ##slackware. [23:58] the league of robots [23:58] headed by bender bending rodriguez [23:59] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401074458] [00:00] --- Sat May 22 2010