[00:00] plasma desktop is nice [00:00] teckan: stick with what slack has to offer for updating, slackpkg. then go to SBo for anything else or build from source. [00:00] teckan: maybe in extra.. i dunno. [00:00] agentc0re, when builiding from source, do you recommend using checkinstall? i used to have that in slackware. [00:01] slackbuild scripts [00:01] they look like Arch's PKGBUILDs but are in plain bash [00:02] checkinstall is kinda icky [00:02] cyborg-one (i=1000@nas-12-198.dialup.farlep.net) left irc: "I regret Nothing..." [00:02] actually, they should be written with ash in mind rather than bash per patrick [00:02] sahk0, what's the advantage, if you do not want to share them? doesnt it take a lot of time to make a slackbuild script? [00:02] teckan: they can be handled with pkgtools [00:02] john_dee (n=id@95-29-12-148.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:02] teckan: I'm sorry, when i mean build from source just build a slackbuild. there are templates that cover most of everything that you would need to have in a SBo script. [00:03] teckan: depends on how much work you need to do to fix source compiles [00:03] teckan: there's also src2pkg [00:03] they all can, can't they? isn't that the advantage of building packages? [00:04] teckan: or just build from source with no script and make install DESTDIR = /tmp/installdir then use makepkg [00:04] the advantage of building packages is you know what's on your system and can make upgrades/fixes easier [00:04] logist (n=Pai@p5499C310.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [00:05] teckan (n=Pai@p5499C310.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:05] Nick change: logist -> teckan [00:05] i'm sorry, my connection is not very stable [00:06] teckan: or just build from source with no script and make install DESTDIR = /tmp/installdir then use makepkg [00:06] call your carrier and bitch [00:06] lol [00:06] they love that [00:07] antiwire, but i do not love the high rate phone calls :P [00:09] i wish everyone knew about DESTDIR [00:09] about what? [00:09] yeah like openoffice.org [00:10] PREFIX would be a nice addition as well [00:10] why isnt gnome part of slackware? i do not like it as a window manager but i kinda like their spreadsheet application (gnumeric). [00:10] it's too much work [00:11] it's quite good to kde, indeed. slack has a lot of users :P [00:12] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:12] cant parse [00:12] GNOME is a pain to package. [00:12] Gnome lacks slack. that is why [00:12] It's in the older changelog. [00:13] ah, ok [00:14] what window managers are shipped with slackware, besides kde? [00:14] E, Fluxbox, Blackbox, XFCE [00:14] E? [00:14] Enlightenment. [00:14] so ath9k [00:16] Xfce is very gnomish [00:16] matsuura, are you using madwifi? [00:16] or at least as gnomish as i guess you could be without being gnome [00:16] isnt there anything like xmonad or ratpoison? (tilled) [00:17] teckan: not included, but available. Check out slackbuilds.org [00:17] as well as slackbuilds.org/howto/ and slackbuilds.org/faq/ [00:17] I am getting this error on built-in webcam. v4l2: unable to open '/dev/video0': No such file or directory [00:18] however, if I attach external mouse, it works fine. [00:18] sorry, not mouse, webcam [00:19] cryptic0, well, i guess its a drivers problem. did you google for the pci id somehow? [00:19] pci id of the built in webcam? [00:20] teckan: no [00:20] cryptic, does the kernel not recognize this device? what's in dmesg? [00:21] cryptic0, just in case you dont know exactly what model/chipset you have in your system [00:21] mancha: the built in webcam was working fine in skype, then suddenly this evening, skype stopped recognizing it. After that I tried it out with mencoder and such, but no go. Both skype and mencoder recognize an external webcam right away though. [00:21] matsuura, did you give it a try? i think it's kinda stable with ath9k [00:22] cryptic0, what was the last thing you did to this machine? [00:22] (but i am not sure, as that is not my card) [00:22] teckan: nope.. have no idea what it is [00:22] things don't just stop workiong randomly. so something either a) was changed by you or b) broke in the interrim [00:22] interim [00:22] Utility: mancha: haven't installed or uninstalled a thing since then [00:22] rebooted a couple of times [00:23] well, something must have been done. this is not windows, after all [00:23] ok, if NOTHING was changed on your system and suddenly the cam stopped working then the cam broke. [00:23] cryptic0, kernel version? [00:23] take it to your nearest best fry and tell them you want vistan installed instead! :) [00:24] Utility: 2.6.29.6 [00:24] cryptic0: does anything else recognize is? [00:24] mancha: I would rather throw away the laptop :D [00:24] pattwo (n=pattwo@99.239.76.75) joined ##slackware. [00:24] jude (n=jude@mail.kenfreight.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [00:24] cryptic0, i would recommend upgrading your kernel only to see if anything changes [00:24] agentc0re: mplayer/mencoder can't find /dev/video0 [00:24] which kernel btw are you booting? huge or generic ? [00:25] Utility: huge [00:25] smp [00:25] folks it worked before! why recommend a new kernel [00:25] matsuura, http://madwifi-project.org/ [00:25] cryptic0, in a terminal, "lsmod" lists kernel modules, right? [00:25] teckan: 20 minutes ahead of you man.. thanks.. :p [00:25] Utility: both uvc and video modules are loaded [00:26] matsuura, i am sorry :) [00:26] Utility, loaded kernel modules. [00:26] cryptic0: what is the output of lsusb ? [00:26] agentc0re: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05a9:2640 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. OV2640 Webcam [00:27] try ln -s /dev/video /dev/video0 [00:27] ok just checking [00:27] mancha: both files non-existent [00:27] mancha, because it's possible that this may be a bug in the module for that device [00:28] ok so make one, what's the major/minor? try mknod /dev/video0 c 81 0 [00:28] Hi Guys, In Suse Linux I use Yast, what should I use in Slackware that compares to Yast ? [00:28] major/minor? not sure waht that means? [00:28] jude, is Yast the whole install/remove software thing? [00:28] jude: a brain [00:28] crw-rw---- 1 0 18 81, 0 2009-11-17 09:25 /dev/video0 [00:28] there's mine. [00:28] try my command, report back asap soldier [00:29] mancha: no output [00:29] teckan (n=Pai@p5499C310.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:29] do you have a /dev/video0 now? [00:29] does the cam give you sugar now? [00:29] teckan (n=Pai@p5499C310.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [00:30] I have /dev/video0 now, let me check, if sugar can be mine. [00:30] do you have uvcvideo, video, videodev, output ; modules loaded? [00:30] ok now I have permission problem: v4l2: unable to open '/dev/video0': Permission denied [00:30] i also have v4l1_compat loaded. [00:30] are you root? [00:31] alright, give it r/w, 666 mayhaps [00:31] chmod 666 /dev/video0 [00:31] that's a devlish permission [00:31] err sorry, thought he was trying to do what you said as a user. [00:31] agentc0re: all four modules loaded [00:31] report back soldier [00:31] I have root privs. let me do 666 [00:32] do I also need to symlink video0 to video? [00:32] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-74-209-11-2.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:32] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-74-209-11-2.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [00:32] who knows. try this first. [00:32] ok [00:32] my video0 is not a symlink fwiw. [00:32] try ln -s /dev/video /dev/video0 [00:33] i guess we shoulda gone 660 to follow agent. but 666's fine [00:33] mancha: this can't be right, I am again getting device not found [00:33] when the device actually exists [00:33] error please [00:33] v4l2: unable to open '/dev/video0': No such device or address [00:33] ls -l /dev/video0 please [00:34] crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 81, 0 2009-11-20 23:28 /dev/video0 [00:35] i'd copy agent's structure for those, maybe there does need to be a symlink or two.... [00:35] ok, let me try symlinking [00:35] or maybe your problems run deeper than missing char dev files [00:36] i got mine backasswards before, you'd want ln -s /dev/video0 /dev/video if anything [00:37] diogenes_of_sino (n=diogenes@adsl-99-151-125-154.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:37] just symlinked, no go still [00:37] do I need a reboot? [00:38] i don't think so but maybe reloading the module will help [00:38] Utility: will modprobe do that? [00:39] not really [00:39] okay... seriously now.. http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/575565/This-11-year-old-schoolgirl-had-a-baby-on-her-wedding-day.html [00:39] rmmod module && modprobe module [00:39] Utility: ok. [00:39] thanks [00:39] where module is the name of the video module for your card [00:40] wow! as soon as I reloaded the module, my webcam flashed me for a second [00:40] flash it back [00:41] since this thing broke did you ever do that? cycle the module? [00:41] cause that might have been the right solution here...(though mknods are always a lot of fun on fridays) [00:41] agentc0re: looks like its almost par for the course there [00:42] mancha: BINGO! [00:43] agentc0re: Utility mancha: It now works. [00:43] sweet momma, it needed cycling? [00:43] mancha: you're absolutely right. reloading the module was the solution [00:43] let me do the acid test: skype [00:43] s/test/ [00:44] YAY! works there too [00:44] still doesn't explain why the think did a nosedive into faildom... [00:44] s/think/thing [00:45] yeah I know. besides I had a reboot two times after the webcam stopped working, so the modules should have been cycled already. [00:45] so I don't know. [00:46] dunno, maybe we brought you good luck [00:46] :) no you brought me good help [00:46] mancha, fwiw take the example of psmouse module. it has a resetafter= variable for when to reset the mouse hardware [00:47] some webcams are not the most stable [00:47] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [00:48] teckan (n=Pai@p5499C310.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:51] I wonder why I get this annoying echo in skype [00:52] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) got netsplit. [00:52] frimer (i=frimer@szluug.org) got netsplit. [00:52] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) got netsplit. [00:52] oddharjar (n=harjar@cFD945BC1.dhcp.bluecom.no) got netsplit. [00:52] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) got netsplit. [00:52] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) got netsplit. [00:52] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) got netsplit. [00:52] because you're batman and you live in a cave? [00:52] lol [00:52] I certainly don't wish for that to be true [00:52] :D [00:52] but batman is just what you make your mom call you while you use the computer in the basement(cave) :P [00:53] :p [00:53] adjust your input levels..see if that fixes it. [00:53] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:53] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:53] there is a command line utility that you can use to record yourself.. i just don't remember what it is. [00:53] 'lo slackers [00:54] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:54] hola [00:54] agentc0re: I just tried recording a video using mencoder. I havent been able to record audio [00:54] arecord [00:55] ¿como esta usted? [00:56] agentc0re, mencoder iirc [00:58] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) got lost in the net-split. [00:58] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) got lost in the net-split. [00:58] oddharjar (n=harjar@cFD945BC1.dhcp.bluecom.no) got lost in the net-split. [00:58] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) got lost in the net-split. [00:58] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) got lost in the net-split. [00:58] frimer (i=frimer@szluug.org) got lost in the net-split. [00:58] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) got lost in the net-split. [00:59] does pidgin now do the video-chat thing too? [00:59] has anyone tried this? http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/watch-youtube-videos-in-html5/ [01:02] kleanchap (n=kleancha@93.195.12.22) joined ##slackware. [01:04] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:05] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [01:05] frimer (i=frimer@szluug.org) joined ##slackware. [01:05] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [01:05] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [01:05] oddharjar (n=harjar@cFD945BC1.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [01:05] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. [01:05] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:06] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:06] samuelig (n=samuelig@15.pool85-57-131.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [01:06] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [01:06] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [01:06] frimer (i=frimer@szluug.org) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:06] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left irc: Connection reset by peer [01:07] mancha: it apparently does, but not on slackware [01:07] oddharjar (n=harjar@cFD945BC1.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:07] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [01:08] oh hrmm, slack's on an older ver? [01:08] oddharjar (n=harjar@193.91.148.253) joined ##slackware. [01:10] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@93.195.12.22) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [01:10] mancha: no, slack has latest version, but it does not have all the stuff that pidgin needs for video [01:10] from what I understand [01:10] ah ok. gotcha. [01:10] frimer (i=frimer@szluug.org) joined ##slackware. [01:11] damn this echo [01:11] so loud. [01:14] ssh i was listening to it [01:15] the echo doesn't really exist.. its those damn voices ! THE VOICES !! AHHH! [01:17] Rat409_ (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:19] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:20] fiyawerx (i=fiyawerx@174.54.144.240) left irc: [01:21] credo (n=credo@80.233.147.119) left irc: "leaving" [01:23] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:24] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [01:24] unixfool (n=ron@68.33.193.204) joined ##slackware. [01:24] hi [01:24] elderK (n=zk@125-236-161-72.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [01:24] do you know what it needs? gstreamer perchance? [01:24] hey all./ [01:24] anyone here built gnome from source, on slack12.2 or 13? [01:26] does GSB count? [01:27] mayhap. [01:27] I always found GSB to be kind of subpar, tbh. [01:27] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:27] Slaptget or whatever, insisted always on pulling things I Really didnt want installed, say, HTTPD and whatnot. [01:27] gnome is an epic pain to build.. hard to get around that [01:28] oh, howfore, tuxdev_? [01:28] "dependency hell" is a gross extreme understatement [01:28] Aye. [01:28] Also, is there a way I can move Slack to a fully dynamic /dev ? [01:29] :) so, like, I only have in dev what my system has? [01:29] :) [01:29] or is that generally not smart? [01:29] OGH! [01:29] And, also, :) is there a clean way to purge the NLS stuff ? [01:29] well, no system can have a 100% dynamic dev. certain devices have to exist before udev happens [01:29] all the translation tables and whatnot? [01:29] okay, how about a 99% dynamic /dev?:) [01:29] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [01:30] As for GNOME's dependency bloat, HTTPD seems to be everywhere else GNOME is, so, that just seems to suck, bad. [01:30] I am out guys. nite! [01:30] ffs, a webserver, for what, on gnome? the help pages or something? [01:30] Night cryptic0 [01:30] :) [01:30] sleep well, man [01:30] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] who knows [01:30] thanks. u2 [01:30] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [01:31] I really haven't looked carefully, but I was under the impression that udev made /dev 99% dynamic already [01:31] well, list /dev/ [01:31] there is TONS of stuff there, that you simply dont need. [01:31] for devices that you dont have. [01:31] at least, on my systems. [01:31] but YMMV [01:31] :) [01:32] as for gnome, epic pain, how many dependencies? and in the ned, is it worthwhile at all to build it from source? [01:32] I was hoping to have a 'core' gnome, ie: GNOME, with only it's totally core things, [01:32] ie: not evolution, tomboy, etc. [01:33] you can't do gnome without evolution on any other distribution that i know of [01:33] i know it's possible (gware) but still [01:33] see, that kidn of bugs me :) [01:34] gnashley did some work a long time ago that would take care of most of the dependencies so you could get gnome-games and such [01:34] I cant be alone in this though, surely. [01:34] not a huge list of packages to deal with there [01:34] you're not, at least back when gnome was removed you weren't [01:34] ^_^ Yay. [01:34] me, i gave up and moved on to Xfce, and i've been happy ever since [01:35] I like Xfce, generally, but there are a few things that irk me there, too. [01:35] For recent memory, I've used FVWM. [01:35] xfce rocks [01:35] looks like there's no place you aren't irked [01:35] pretty much, Utility. [01:35] Although, XFCE has to be one of the least irky places :) [01:35] probably /the/ least. [01:35] actually. [01:35] I use IceWM, and it totally doesn't exist for me most of the time [01:35] as in completely out of my way [01:36] pattwo (n=pattwo@99.239.76.75) left irc: "Leaving" [01:36] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [01:36] :P I liked GNOME back in the days of Redhat's Bluecurve. [01:36] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:36] I still like the Bluecurve look and iconset. [01:36] anyhow, if you want to do a mix-and-match DE with some gnome components, that's probably not totally painful [01:36] If your rice cereal says 'velocity, acceleration, jerk, snap, crackle, pop'... you might be a physicist. [01:36] but, it's virtually impossible to get a hold of these days. [01:36] cnet estimates the weight of the internet to be 498,438,559,990 kilograms [01:36] LOL mancha. [01:36] awesome [01:37] there's got to be an old redhat iso lying about [01:37] If you entangle your thoughts with someone else's to think of something new... you might be a quantum physicist [01:37] there is, tuxdev_, but I wonder how difficult it'd be to get it to fly. [01:37] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:37] :) [01:38] KDE3.5x was probably the last 'big' DE that I liked a little. [01:38] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:38] GNOME has nostalgia love from me, from DLG/Slack10.2 days. [01:38] It was actually bearable back then, to me. [01:38] but then, back then, I didnt so much care about all the crap on the system either. [01:38] :) [01:38] :P These days, I tend to prun everything as much as I can. [01:39] It should be just a matter of figuring out which package on the iso has what you want [01:39] my metric: if it takes longer to compile than the kernel, it gets nuked. [01:39] or X? [01:40] X takes a while.. if you don't count each part separately [01:40] The other thing that REALLY irks me :P Is simply, "everything tries to look too fucking blingy these days. I dont care for bling, I liked BeOS looks." [01:40] You know what I mean? [01:40] :) [01:41] elderK, I think IceWM might appeal to you quite a bit [01:41] have you tried that beos derivative? [01:41] ZevenOS? [01:41] or Haiku? [01:41] certainly it's possibly to bling it up, but that takes work [01:41] haiku [01:41] I havent, no, Mancha. [01:41] I'm generally waiting for their first 'real' release. [01:42] somoene on here was running it and quite liked it, sort of piqued my interest [01:42] I loved BeOS, bacj in the day. [01:42] It was nice, without being an attention whore. [01:42] the icons were subdued, but nic enough not to be eyesore, not bling enough to be awhore. [01:43] hey easy now, ima not giving up my transparent terms or cube desktops for nobodies [01:43] KDE4 look-wise doesn't feel that blingy.. but then there's the rest of KDE4... [01:44] lol [01:44] Ive never tried KDE4. [01:44] I dont think I willyet, for quite some time to come. [01:44] my memories of kde is best summarized as a mix between bloat and hannah barbera cartoons. [01:44] OH that gets another annoyance to me. [01:44] Icon sets. [01:44] Has anyone found any DECENT icon sets that arent too blingy, or too cartonny? [01:44] and that generally, dont suck shit? [01:44] :P [01:45] One reason I use the terminal for everything, because generally, the iconsets hurt my eyes more than ls' output. [01:45] :) [01:46] not to mention that hunting and pecking for buttons, checkboxes, and scrolling combo/list boxes is irritating [01:46] you can't shell script a GUI [01:46] exactly [01:46] <3 bash [01:46] :) [01:47] one reason I like FVWM [01:47] :) [01:47] sure, it's butt ugly even at best :P [01:47] but, man, [01:47] what you can do with it is insane. [01:47] fvwm was nice until they started getting fancy with their conig syntaxes [01:47] all of a sudden with each release your old config would go down the shitter [01:47] I like to keep fvwm simple ... but I've switch to ion now [01:48] only thing about IceWM is that I wonder what is actually different from one version to the next, cause I don't feel *anything* [01:48] they should have stayed true to papa twm [01:48] I only use fvwm or twm for VNC desktops [01:48] rk4n3: doesnt things like GIMP hurt you? [01:48] I tried CTWM for awhile :) [01:49] elderK: heck no - its just a matter of settling on a nice tile arrangement you like that's also flexible (spots for various types/sizes of windows) [01:51] :) [01:51] I quite liked PWM [01:51] :) [01:51] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. [01:52] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:53] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:55] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:57] http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/amigolinux/download/Extra/GNOME-COMPAT-2.10/ [01:57] elderK, ^ that's what gnashley did [01:57] it's pretty outdated now, but.. [01:59] moh2a (n=mohaa@188.115.77.2) joined ##slackware. [02:00] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-174-54-144-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:14] byteframe: its meant,inorder to avoid security issues [03:16] I've been having problems compiling things recently and I have no idea what's freaking things out... [03:16] for example, i'm comiling compiz... ran ./configure and it's sat on "checking build system type... [03:17] for like, an hour now [03:17] is there some uber gay way you have to actually compile stuff now? :\ [03:17] matsuura: did you try the slackbuilds ? [03:17] did they do the same ? [03:17] matsuura: slackbuilds.org ? [03:17] all code does [03:18] ALL CODE [03:18] what 'all code' ? [03:18] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [03:18] anything that requires a compiler [03:18] and make [03:18] so I guess, anything that requires make... lol [03:18] matsuura: did you do a full install ? [03:19] .... yes [03:19] hope you are in 13? [03:19] Axius (n=ade@92.82.66.104) joined ##slackware. [03:19] Axius (n=ade@92.82.66.104) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:21] actually, I compled my kernel just fine [03:21] o_o [03:22] seeing as to how it is the only version of slackware I installed on my laptop, yes [03:22] it must be so [03:22] Wi sh it weren't though [03:22] 13 has given me so many stupid problems taht just shouldn't exist [03:22] that * [03:23] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:25] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@71.104.236.81) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [03:25] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:29] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [03:29] CyberOwl (n=olivier@85.218.94.79) joined ##slackware. [03:29] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [03:29] CyberOwl (n=olivier@85.218.94.79) left irc: Client Quit [03:33] Nick change: Patzy_ -> Patzy [03:34] KnightTwist (n=olivier@85.218.94.79) joined ##slackware. [03:34] pendrive problem... [03:35] since a long time, I don't get it [03:35] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:36] some pendrives appears under my slackware as /dev/sdb1 as usual and how it should be. One doesn't, it appears as /dev/sdb only. Whyyyy??? [03:36] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30C16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:36] its not partitioned [03:36] oh? [03:36] cfdisk /dev/sdb ? [03:37] i use mkdosfs but whatever rocks your boat [03:37] lol [03:37] :) thanks [03:41] moh2a (n=mohaa@188.115.65.167) joined ##slackware. [03:43] kleanchap (n=kleancha@93.195.12.22) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [03:47] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-18-109.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [03:48] ehrgile (n=ehrgile@pool-71-174-70-16.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:48] ehrgile (n=ehrgile@pool-71-174-70-16.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [03:49] my problems are progressing - how i have a kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(3,1) [03:50] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.77.2) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:50] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [03:50] theres no 13.0 slackbuild for this? http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/gnome-mplayer/ do i just change version # or anything else? [03:51] try it? [03:51] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:51] ok [03:51] does anybody know the equivalent of "alsa force-reload" found in other distros in slackware to reset alsa upon suspend/resume to get the audio working again ? [03:51] vaibhav (n=landy@122.167.85.195) joined ##slackware. [03:52] alsa is the same in Slackware as it is in other distributions [03:52] then am i just missing the "alsa" executable ? [03:53] ShadowDracos (n=shadowdr@68.63.221.158) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [03:53] macross (i=dsfsdf@78-57-108-146.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [03:53] maybe its not really a part of alsa but distribution specific [03:53] yep! thats why i'm asking! [03:53] hello i have a problem connecting to internet via dsl [03:54] fhobia: then you are asking in the wrong place [03:54] !? [03:54] batphone (n=ping@cpe-67-9-162-48.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:54] so what do you guys mainly use slackware for [03:54] in ohter distros i used pon dsl-provider poff... but in slackware its not installed or smth and pppoe-setup doesn't work any suggestions? [03:54] in no particular order [03:54] find out what that command actually does and do it in Slackware [03:54] put up a quick apache with tomcat [03:54] yeah, i'll figure it out, sahk0 [03:54] throw together pgsql [03:55] whats the deal these days [03:55] batphone: any issues ? [03:55] lots [03:55] KirbyRosenberg (n=krosenbe@24.159.166.178) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:55] i wanna use slack for a sip router [03:55] batphone: then ask [03:55] sank0 mkdosfs /dev/sdb ? [03:55] but i havent heard of anyone who has done it [03:56] ive seen freebsd running openser and opensips [03:56] says it doesn't accept on full disk device [03:57] just checking [03:57] batphone (n=ping@cpe-67-9-162-48.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:57] macross (i=dsfsdf@78-57-108-146.static.zebra.lt) left ##slackware. [03:57] KnightTwist: /dev/sdb is the device not the partition [03:58] we _usually_ format partition [03:58] yeah, I know but it is a non formated pendrive [03:58] KnightTwist: doesn't it list /dev/sdb{1,2} ? [03:59] elderK (n=zk@125-236-161-72.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left ##slackware. [03:59] KnightTwist: mkdosfs -F32 /dev/sdb1 will create a fat32 partition on it removing all data (if any) on the disk [03:59] KnightTwist: then either use _fdisk_ / _cfdisk_ to create partition [03:59] so I want to partition it. No, it doesn't. to mount it I usually do mount /dev/sdb /mnt/usb1 as root [03:59] other pendrives are ok [03:59] thanks sank0 [04:00] no such file or directory [04:00] :( [04:00] ermm [04:00] KnightTwist: i have no idea how you mounted /dev/sdb [04:00] yeah [04:00] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [04:01] cfdisk /dev/sdb [04:01] you need to edit it with fdisk first [04:01] _as root_ [04:01] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [04:01] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [04:02] KnightTwist: see http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/slackware/slackware64-current/usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT [04:02] read the Restoring a USB stick to its original state part [04:02] and follow it [04:03] fdisk /dev/sdb did it [04:03] thanks [04:03] cfdisk /dev/sdb wasn't accepting to do anything [04:03] added one partition [04:03] and now is fine [04:03] /dev/sdb1 appears at last [04:04] great [04:05] thank you both very much [04:07] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [04:08] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [04:11] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-75-61.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:13] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-174.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [04:15] vaibhav (n=landy@122.167.85.195) left irc: "Leaving" [04:15] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-18-109.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:21] gyroscope (n=master@81.215.20.196) joined ##slackware. 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[05:02] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:03] I need to set up a the /tmp as a partition in order to get it encrypted. The problem is that currently i have it on /. What should I use? [05:04] vaibhav (n=landy@122.167.85.195) joined ##slackware. [05:05] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:10] `oobe` (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [05:10] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.167) joined ##slackware. [05:11] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [05:14] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:18] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-164-147.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:21] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.167) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [05:23] Azeotrope: create a new partition? [05:24] Nick change: `oobe` -> oobe [05:24] can anyone tell me which of the xorg-packages that include xorg-macros? [05:26] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:29] hacked together a script to solve the problem for me: for i in /var/log/packages/*; do cat $i >> ./tmp; done [05:29] after that I only had to search the file for xorg-macros and I found the package name [05:29] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:37] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.167) joined ##slackware. [05:38] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) got netsplit. [05:38] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) got netsplit. [05:38] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) got netsplit. [05:38] frimer (i=frimer@szluug.org) got netsplit. [05:38] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) got netsplit. 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[06:17] ^^ [06:17] finally! kms on ati radeon hd4870 :) [06:19] \o/ [06:21] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.88.50) joined ##slackware. [06:22] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [06:23] shyko (n=quassel@187.39.211.88) joined ##slackware. [06:25] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [06:26] shyko (n=quassel@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Client Quit [06:26] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:26] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:27] greetings [06:28] The-Croupier: run! run for your life! slackboy has gone on a killing spree, save your li argh..... [06:28] Action: Camarade_Tux died [06:29] lol [06:29] Camarade_Tux: what happened? [06:29] (I don't know, I'm dead ;p ) [06:29] it all started with upgradepkg.... [06:30] pprkut: i see.... [06:30] some things are just better left alone ;) [06:30] and to imagine that some people used to talk to him :p ;) and they thought slackboy was a good guy..:) [06:31] pprkut: like windows :p [06:31] pprkut: and other people's gf [06:31] had a funny experience last night as I was installing slackware64. just finished installing, and edited /etc/slackpkg/mirrors to my usual mirror (without reading the manual), ran slackpkg update and slackpkg upgrade-all.... and afterwards /bin/bash apparently wasn't a binary anymore :p [06:31] Action: v3gard has learned from his mistakes :) [06:32] v3gard: so were is the experience or the funny in that? :p [06:32] when going from 32-bit to 64-bit OS; RTFM ;-) [06:33] or just put the proper mirror :P [06:34] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-180-247-200.lns11.lon.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:34] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.21.98) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:36] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.151.82) joined ##slackware. [06:37] hello everyone [06:37] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [06:37] is there a way to uncompress .zip files from the cli? [06:37] latemus: unzip filename [06:37] nice [06:38] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [06:38] if you have several zip files, you can run "for i in *.zip; do unzip $i; done;" [06:38] watch out for tarbombs in zip files though, they're pretty common [06:38] whats a tarbomb [06:39] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [06:39] its when you unzip/explode a file in the current working directory [06:39] how can i use ipod shuffle in slackware 13? [06:39] suddently you have 100+ files that you don't want in your home folder [06:40] means , which software to use? [06:40] and get every file in the current dir (sometimes hundreds or thousands of them) [06:40] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.222.75) joined ##slackware. [06:40] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[07:05] is it crucial to allow time to run on port 37 [07:07] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-229-112.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:12] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:13] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:16] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [07:17] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:19] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: "curiosity kill the kat" [07:20] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [07:21] Axius (n=ade@92.82.88.36) left irc: "Leaving" [07:22] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.151.82) joined ##slackware. [07:22] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.151.82) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:23] latemus: it's the time server, so you only need it if you want clients to sync time with that machine. [07:23] Or do you mean on that port specifically? [07:26] fluke (n=fluke@86-45-85-201-dynamic.b-ras2.srl.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:26] no i mean using it at all. [07:26] what do i edit to turn it off [07:27] chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.ntpd [07:27] First maybe /etc/rc.d/rc.ntpd stop to stop it. [07:28] THe first line will prevent it from starting at the next startup. [07:28] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [07:29] SuN thank you [07:32] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: "curiosity kill the kat" [07:33] hmm.. looks like time is running even though rc.ntpd's permissions are not executable [07:33] Oh, it's an inetd service, apparently. [07:33] ahh [07:35] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [07:35] woohoo got it. [07:35] now for auth [07:41] smallgoat (n=andy@host81-148-227-179.range81-148.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Client Quit [07:44] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.151.82) joined ##slackware. [07:44] how to install banshee on slackware? [07:45] greymaus_ (n=greymaus@86.46.248.122) joined ##slackware. [07:48] slackie (n=x@213.63.200.78) joined ##slackware. [07:52] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:52] Axius (n=fim@92.85.25.191) joined ##slackware. [07:57] in my 'TOOL' folder, the 'Ænima' album is appearing as 'Ænima' - is this simply a matter of Slackware not using UTF-8 by default? [07:58] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left ##slackware. [07:58] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [07:59] The_Seeker: that, or your terminal font not supporting it, or both. [07:59] prashant_: banshee requires gnome libraries, and since gnome is not officially available for slackware you would have to compile the required libraries and application yourself [07:59] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:59] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [08:00] v3gard: so, which application should i use to manage my ipod on slack13? [08:00] SuN: thought so - thanks [08:01] prashant_: i haven't used it in a few years, but you may have luck with gtkpod [08:01] v3gard: it's not working for me [08:01] v3gard: should i try songbird? [08:02] prashant_: Amarok should handle your iPod [08:03] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:03] the_seeker: but, amarok is not recognising it [08:04] mwnn (n=user@59.92.144.2) joined ##slackware. [08:05] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.129.223) joined ##slackware. [08:06] Patriciia (i=umit@41.236.14.222) joined ##slackware. [08:09] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: "curiosity kill the kat" [08:09] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [08:12] petslack (n=petslack@201-68-130-150.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[08:19] start it again from the terminal and post the output messages [08:20] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: "curiosity kill the kat" [08:20] v3gard: ok, i have deleted the folder. let me dwnld ans install it once again [08:20] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [08:21] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-244-252.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [08:21] hallo [08:22] Action: v3gard is off to the liquor store [08:28] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-201-154.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:29] hi metrofox [08:29] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-208-26.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:34] Nick change: wertik_rus -> wertik_rus|wrk [08:35] Nick change: BloodyHell -> Epigrammaticus [08:36] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@seepzgw.mumbai.geodesic.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:37] Kidpunkx (n=miguelba@adsl-235-213-125.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [08:37] hello all [08:39] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. 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[08:49] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.151.82) left irc: "Leaving" [08:51] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.151.82) joined ##slackware. [08:51] stunix (i=1000@85.19.141.138) left irc: "gone gone gone." [08:52] hello everyone [08:52] v3gard: r u there? [08:52] ello' [08:52] hello [08:53] which application to use to manage ipod on slackware 13? [08:54] prashant_: gtkpod [08:54] i sueually jsut mount it and copy the files over but i think songbird and amarok work with ipods [08:54] or gtkpod [08:54] spaceplod: can u help me with gtkpod [08:55] there si a slackbuild for it [08:55] is* [08:55] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=gtkpod&sv=13.0 [08:55] toastytoast:i tried songbird and amarok, but they are not recognising the device [08:56] i see well then do like SpacePlod said and give gtkpod a try [08:56] prashant_: what is the error you are getting? [08:56] spaceplod:i downloaded the archive in home folder, then extracted it, [08:57] spaceplod: went inside extracted foldr, issued ./configure, make and make install [08:58] spaceplod: all went well but can't find gtkpod in multimedia [08:59] can you try running it from a terminal? [08:59] 1) you'd be better off using the slackbuild, like toastytoast suggested. have you tried running it from a term? [08:59] spaceplod: yes, i gave gtkpod & but got error, unknown command [09:00] did you sudo make install [09:01] becasue command not found would mean it didn't isntall meaing when you did ./configure make make install all did not go well [09:02] make sure you run make install as root wether useing sudo or logging in as root [09:02] toastytoast: but i installed it as root [09:02] thats weird then [09:02] try useing the slackbuild then [09:02] toastytoast:should i pastebin contents of folder? [09:02] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3110/2476487210_7aaa12a708.jpg ^ [09:03] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@190.191.43.170) joined ##slackware. [09:04] john_dee (n=id@95-29-12-148.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:04] runlevel 5 is pretty much unused, right? [09:07] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [09:07] yup, 5 is not used, 1 3 4 is the runlevels, 1 single, 3 cli, 4 gui [09:08] pfff, these debian users don't know their runlevels :D [09:08] in slackware :) [09:08] many distros use run level 5 for gui [09:09] hmmm, wikipedia mentions that [09:09] bah, I don't like debian ^^ [09:09] inittab explains it in the comments [09:09] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel <- this is even more chaotic than I thought, not two distributions use the same runlevels :D [09:09] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [09:13] idk prashant_ i jsut isntalled it btoh useing the slack build and doing ./configure make sudo make install [09:13] it worked both ways for me so i'm not sure whats going on sorry [09:14] toastytoast: while installing slackbuild , should i install libraries also? [09:14] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.92.128) left irc: Success [09:15] i didn't install the mp4v2 but i assume that is for ipod videos so you might want to [09:15] mp4v2 should be for aac [09:16] i ddon't know much about video encodeing so i'm ntot he man to ask about that :( [09:16] pprkut: i don't need video or aac support [09:16] toastytoast: ok, the installation is complete [09:16] or audoi encodeing [09:17] toastytoast: now what should i do? [09:17] ok then you shoudl be abelt o run it form a terminal [09:17] thats what i did [09:18] i did the slackbuild then installpkg the /tmp/gtkpod-0.99.14-i486-1_SBo.tgz and ran gtkpod in a a terminal [09:18] wintermute1 (n=wintermu@cpc4-aztw22-2-0-cust427.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:18] toastytoast: yes, it's working now [09:19] ok problem solved then d(^.^)b [09:19] toastytoast: guess, i have to download each application in slackbuild [09:19] i would really like to learn more about the organization of the arm port project, that is, im guessing The Man didnt do everything by himself, or did he? [09:19] i only don't use slackbuidls twhent here sin't a slackbuild availble [09:20] wow that is a lot of typos [09:21] toastytoast: i told that coz yesterday, i while installing opera the official source didn't worked for me. i had to use slackbuild at last [09:22] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.26.165) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:23] prashant: funny you should say that, the wicd pkg in /extra stopped working for me so i had to build from source [09:24] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [09:25] greetings...hows things going in this part of the world? [09:25] Action: The-Croupier is in big big trouble...:( [09:25] not bad in the uk...bit wet [09:25] wintermute1:oh [09:26] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:26] prashant: guess whatever works for you at the time, source or slackbuild, in essence they are the same thing, thats the beauty of slackware! [09:27] wintermute1:i don't know but manytimes slackbuilds have worked for me [09:27] help :-( [09:28] no! [09:28] Kidpunkx: just turn the ( into a ) [09:29] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.26.165) joined ##slackware. [09:29] prashant: yeah slackbuilds are great, its a weird bug with wicd 1.2.2 that only i only solved by using the lastest release source, but otherwise iv never needed to do anything slackbuilds havent provided [09:30] wintermute1:ok [09:30] wintermute1, you do know that wicd doesn't actually build anything, right? [09:30] mupi (n=mupi@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [09:31] thrice: er....sorry if i mispelled anything, but im actually talking about building the wicd network manager from source, sorry i didnt make that clear [09:31] you did, but "wicd" is a python package [09:31] lol well I was enabling HT in my kernel but I got a kernel panic [09:31] how can i fix it? [09:31] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30C16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:31] it doesn't build anything :) so there should have been no change, really [09:32] thrice: can you expand on this abit more, im a little unclear as to what your driving at, sorry [09:32] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:32] actually, I"m not sure how else to explain it [09:32] bennymac1 (n=ben@cpe-72-231-198-162.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:33] toastytoast: hey, gtkpod is unable to load the ipod [09:33] i had to build wicd 1.6.2 using the sources from wicd.org to get around a strange bug, i looked on linuxquestions, a few other peeps had the same thing, apprently its to do with the version of wicd available in /extras [09:34] ok, I thought you said you rebuild the SAME version as in extra/, and your problem went away :> [09:34] try running ti as root [09:34] you might need to be in a certain groupd ionorder to access the ipod [09:34] on slackware yes.. however most other distros use runlevel 5 for X [09:34] toastytoast: i'm running it as root [09:34] oh wrong channel :) [09:34] like gtkam i have to ru it as root becasue i have yet to figure out which group i must be in [09:35] sorry i kludged the version number when i first mentioned it, thats probably where you got confused [09:35] oh wow [09:35] toastytoast: it's not supporting the ipod model [09:35] idk then [09:35] can some one send me slackware 12.2? [09:35] maybe the the great god of linux (linus tovalds may his name be blessed) hates you :p [09:35] jk idk why its nto working sorry i can't help any more [09:36] Patriciia (i=umit@41.236.14.222) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:36] kidpunkx: slack 13 is the current release pal, check slackware dot org [09:36] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:36] toastytoast: ok, then. i'll try songbird once more [09:36] jkl; [09:36] wintermute1 but i have a kernel panic how can i save my files or tranfer tham at leasst? [09:37] can't you reboot into your old kernel? [09:37] Kidpunkx: or boot a live cd? [09:37] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:37] you could chroot in useing the slackware cd [09:37] thrice` I tried to but its stuck on loading fuse modules <--- weird [09:38] i've had to do it a few times [09:38] kidpunxk: grab a copy of systemescuecd and have a fiddle from a live environment [09:39] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.151.82) left irc: "Leaving" [09:39] anyone using slackware.no's rsync? what's the full URI for -current? [09:39] laterz [09:40] wintermute1 (n=wintermu@cpc4-aztw22-2-0-cust427.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left ##slackware. [09:40] winter wait :-( [09:40] ? [09:40] he mentioned systemescuecd let me check that out [09:40] clone [09:41] wasn't me [09:41] i mean wintermute1 [09:41] Kidpunkx: your best option would be to do what toastytoast suggests [09:42] v3gard can i use my usb stick to do it? [09:42] Camarade_Tux: slackware.no::slackware/slackware-current/ (ie you can run rsync without options to see what a server offers .. like rsync slackware.no::) [09:42] Kidpunkx: if you can boot the slackware installer from the usb-stick, yes [09:43] BP{k}, neat trick :) didn't know that [09:44] BP{k}: ok, thanks [09:44] alice (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:44] no I meant when i put in my slackware cd where oyu have to write root, I was thinking about mounting my USB stick and then copying everything on the hard drive [09:44] BP{k}: doing that on a remote computer and I have a terrible ping >< [09:46] boot the slackware install cd, log in as root, insert the usb-stick, mount it using mount -t auto /dev/sdX /some/where, mount the drive using mount -t auto /dev/sdY /some/other/place and start copying [09:46] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:47] Axius (n=fim@92.82.73.18) joined ##slackware. [09:47] v3gard thanks! I have never used -t auto I was just type mount /dev/sdx /mnt/usb [09:48] was = always* [09:49] np [09:50] I could use mv instead of cp right? [09:51] Kidpunkx: if you just enabled HT in your kernel, I'm guessing the reason for the kernel panic is because you forgot to create an initrd [09:51] see ya :) [09:51] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-244-252.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [09:51] v3gard hmMm... help me with that [09:52] I'll try that out aslso [09:52] first chroot into the system as toastytoast explained [09:53] If he just recompiled the same kernel the old initrd should still work unless he changed more than he is saying. [09:53] I'm a newbie chroot means just root on the slackware cd right [09:54] if you let your old kernel keep going, will it load ? failing at the fuse module doesn't sound right [09:54] chroot = change root [09:54] ok [09:55] what you are doing now seems incredibly overkill; just boot the old kernel :> [09:55] thrice`I know :-( it just gets stuck loading there :-( [09:55] try booting into single user mode [09:56] I just boott he new kernerl and the message that it gives me Kernel Panic - not syncing: VPS Unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(3,1) [09:56] XGizzmohow you do that? [09:56] my best guess is still to create a new initrd :) [09:57] At the lilo prompt hit tab then pick you old kernel and add init 1 [09:57] okay let me see XGizzmo [09:58] the old initrd could be created for another kernel using the -k switch, and then it wouldn't work for the new one [09:58] Confucious say: "Be the leaf, not the twig." [09:58] greymaus_ (n=greymaus@86.46.248.122) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:58] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] BP{k}: That experiment you are doing. 1 and 2 are working very well. [10:01] XGizzmo [10:01] its loading fuse module right now [10:02] XGizzmo add "init" ? [10:02] I'm going to wait a few minutes [10:02] Just the "1" should be sufficient [10:02] alienBOB let me check brb [10:02] Sorry my bad [10:03] It will not prevent the kernel panic however - the root filesysten still needs to be mounted and that seems to be the problem [10:03] he's trying to load the standard kernel [10:03] yeah it does mention root system needs to be mounted [10:04] I just wanna boot anything right noew [10:04] I feel empty without my slackware :-( [10:04] Hm with the Slackware |huge| kernel there should be no kernel panic - but then default runlevel 3 should work too [10:04] are you trying to use the huge kernel ? [10:04] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:05] no its the 2.6.27.7 kernel I jsut re enable HT on there [10:05] this si what i did hold on [10:05] macross (i=dsfsdf@78-57-108-146.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [10:05] XGizzmo: haha. Can't beat science ;) [10:06] http://linuxsociety.org/howto/kernelcompile/ [10:06] is there any people willing to help?:) [10:06] you might as well get that updated kernel for 12.2 (2.6.27.31) [10:06] magcross jsut ask away [10:06] well im trying to connect to the internet via dsl [10:07] and when i start up connection pppoe-connect i get this 0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device [10:07] SIOCSIFMTU: No such device [10:07] Using interface ppp0 [10:07] Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/1 [10:07] pppoe: ioctl(SIOCGIFHWADDR): Session 0: No such device [10:07] Modem hangup [10:07] Pig_Pen I cant do that now need to at leasst boot smarty pants [10:07] Connection terminated. [10:07] pppoe: ioctl(SIOCGIFHWADDR): Session 0: No such device [10:07] Couldn't get channel number: Input/output error [10:07] pppoe: ioctl(SIOCGIFHWADDR): Session 0: No such device [10:07] Couldn't get channel number: Input/output error [10:07] jesus [10:07] sry for spam :P [10:07] that is a network question [10:07] this is slackware [10:08] vaibhav (n=landy@122.167.85.195) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:08] you could use the CD to boot your installed system [10:08] Kidpunkx, ok, lets forget about the kernel you cannot get to boot. didn't you keep the old kernels available in lilo for booting ? [10:10] (boot on the slackware installer with root= ?) [10:10] thrice`yes I did but for some odd reason it gets stuck in loading fuse modules [10:10] macross (i=dsfsdf@78-57-108-146.static.zebra.lt) left ##slackware. [10:11] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:12] how big is kde 4.3 once installed? (32bits) [10:13] Camarade_Tux: ~1.5G [10:13] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.129.223) left irc: "Leaving." [10:14] hmmm, big [10:14] allend: thanks [10:14] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:14] padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.252) joined ##slackware. [10:15] Kidpunkx: boot the slackware cd, chroot into your system (read a manual if you don't know what this means), create a new initrd for your kernel using "mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.27.7 -f module" where module is ext3,ext4,reiserfs [...] [10:15] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:16] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-1.0.1 -- Are we there yet?" [10:16] v3gard: nah, use "hugesmp.s root=/dev/sda1" :) [10:16] Camarade_Tux: that should do the trick as well :) [10:16] v3gard thank's that is my next options and it should be working soon let me just download slackware 12.2 I keep losing my cd [10:17] Axius_ (n=fim@92.82.78.22) joined ##slackware. [10:19] I know it's off-topic.. but I'm setting up a laptop for my missus' and want to try to cover every codec she's gonna need.. but its been a while since i dealth with codec packs.. got any recommendations for full-coverage codec packs for xp? [10:19] padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.252) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:20] padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.251) joined ##slackware. [10:20] Zordrak: well, vlc and mplayer when needed (people easily get the basic usage of mplayer, use drag-and-drop on the executable / use MPUI or smplayer) [10:21] ffdshow is nice too [10:21] K-lite codec pack Zordrak? [10:21] if you're looking for an all in one - K Lite Mega [10:21] hugesmp.s root=/dev/sda1 rdinit= ro [10:21] And "media player classic" will cover most out of the box [10:21] alienBOB: The_Seeker: sounds about right thx [10:21] mpc + ffdhow-tryouts :) [10:21] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] you'll also need QT Lite - also found of www.codecguide.com [10:22] on* [10:22] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) joined ##slackware. [10:22] ty [10:23] I used and mirrored a really good codec package but it hasn't been updated in a while though =/ [10:23] ( http://ksphere.free.fr/site/codecspackage.php ) [10:23] CCCP is quite nice too [10:25] \nick CyberOwl [10:25] \help [10:25] Nick change: KnightTwist -> CyberOwl [10:25] The_Seeker: Gorbachev disagreed ;-) [10:25] BP{k}: that he did ;) [10:26] "I come by to give you present for warming of house and find you grappling with local oaf." [10:27] cybErpunk (n=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [10:27] Action: The_Seeker hopes people got the Simpsons reference [10:27] indochine (n=dasilva@201-75-4-185-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:31] indochine (n=dasilva@201-75-4-185-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:32] Axius (n=fim@92.82.73.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:34] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [10:34] I'm thinking of teaching myself a programming language, would perl be ok for a beginner? [10:35] The_Seeker: I thing perl is good for beginners. Also perl is my first programming language [10:35] not sure, it's pretty cryptic [10:35] it's easy but it can be hard to read [10:35] The_Seeker: python will good for a beginners. [10:36] there's so many out there it's hard to know which one to start with - especially when you don't know how any of them "work" [10:36] brainfuck and whitespace! :D [10:36] cannot weigh up pros and cons etc [10:37] perl not hard for read if programmer wrote in accurate style [10:37] The_Seeker: I would recommend java or python [10:39] python will have a great future. [10:39] it seems that when I have my system set up just how I want it, I have nothing left to do so I figured learning a language would give me something to kill time [10:39] The_Seeker, lol, im in the same boat [10:40] The_Seeker: go, get drunk and beat someone, like normal people do [10:41] I'd rather compile a kernel [10:41] she_dyed (n=jazz@adsl-233-244-188.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:42] winter: learn a language, get drunk and beat yourself, like geeks do [10:47] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-180-247-200.lns11.lon.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [10:47] hmm havent been using slack for ages, is slackbuild script something we code on our own or the packages normally have them for us to edit/use? [10:48] she_dyed: both [10:48] nice! [10:50] siddharth-c1 (n=siddhart@59.94.133.103) joined ##slackware. [10:50] this might be a capital offense around here but are there places where i could get binaries instead? heh [10:51] binaries for what? [10:51] its a lo spec machine so i could take chances [10:51] for some apps for console for instance [10:51] andreas-- (n=andy@unaffiliated/slacky) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:52] if it doesn't work then i could attempt to roll-my-own [10:52] 3rd party software is best compiled on your own system via a slackbuild [10:52] that said there are a few places to get trusted packages [10:52] understood, but for 11.0? [10:53] this was the only one i had in hand [10:53] on hand [10:54] i thought that installpkg would do it end-to-end but I dont think I have gcc and friends [10:54] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ [10:54] ok [10:54] hey thanks XGizzmo it might take me a while to reacquaint [10:54] http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/11.0/ [10:55] nice! [10:55] Few 11.0 packages remain at that URL XGizzmo, she_dyed - I need to make room for packages for newer Slackware versions [10:55] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.167) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:55] alienBOB: I know but I figured it was worth a shot. [10:55] so for the rest I would need to edit the slackbuilds? something like that? [10:55] :;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;-) [10:56] Oops wireless lag [10:56] many eyes [10:56] well he is an alein an all. [10:56] she_dyed: usually you can take a SlackBuild script and try running it on Slackware 11.0 in order to compile a package [10:56] alien [10:57] Only the newest software requires up to date libraries (i.e. newer than Slackware 11) but console apps should be less of a problem [10:58] xray7224 (n=jessica@unaffiliated/xray7224) joined ##slackware. [10:59] k let me get to those links [10:59] Nick change: she_dyed -> pirateWesley [11:00] pirateWesley: hello, fancy seeing you here [11:00] oh err heh heh [11:01] oops beeps from the laptop, batterys about to...to... [11:01] xray7224 (n=jessica@unaffiliated/xray7224) left ##slackware. [11:04] anyone know a way to prevent the X screensaver from kicking in, *remotely*? [11:06] kill the process :) [11:06] :P [11:06] xscreensaver -deactivate ? [11:06] http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/man3.html [11:06] xscreensaver-command -deactive [11:06] what thrice` said [11:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:08] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.226.112.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Client Quit [11:09] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [11:09] siddharth-c1 (n=siddhart@59.94.133.103) left ##slackware. [11:11] slackie (n=x@213.63.200.78) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:12] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@190.191.43.170) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [11:12] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [11:12] anyone familiar with sc (spreadsheet calculator?) [11:14] tjones (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [11:17] well a bit [11:17] Miranda! wtf, is that in linux? [11:17] what about cryptic0 [11:17] orson (n=orson@088156066090.kielce.vectranet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:17] hi! did anyone run libata on slackware? [11:17] boy i was just thinking of putting it back on this install [11:18] sc [11:18] pirateWesley: I am reading the manual page, and it gives direction to print a quick reference card, but I dont understand it. [11:18] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.110.50) joined ##slackware. [11:18] says: scqref | [11:18] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.26.165) left irc: "Leaving" [11:19] how do you normally print there, on your PC [11:19] you can do this, the | bar dumps the output to a file [11:19] if you prefer [11:19] like if you just enter scqref it will head out to your screen [11:20] and thats as close to 'Print Preview' as you will get lol [11:20] tjones: I 'killall -SIGSTOP stairs' but another process was started [11:20] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:20] I tried, it doesn't give very readable output. lot of code in there I think [11:20] hmmm, maybe killall -SIGSTOP xscreeensave? [11:20] r [11:20] fiyawerx: ^^ [11:21] so i can say scqref | less to scroll through [11:21] so do that. whats your printer command, lpr? [11:21] never printed from command line, but it should be lpr [11:21] Nick change: tjones -> manwichmakesamea [11:21] btw, do all sc commands start with a dot? [11:21] manwichmakesamea (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) left ##slackware ("Going drinking"). [11:22] when you do scripting on sc iirc [11:23] the reason I want to learn sc is to be able to handle a large matrix of 5000 cells by 1500 cells faster than any graphical spreadsheet can do. [11:23] orson (n=orson@088156066090.kielce.vectranet.pl) left irc: "leaving" [11:23] scqref's output seems to be in mandoc syntax [11:23] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:23] I also want the capability of importing this matrix from a graphical spreadsheet into sc [11:23] Nick change: _Pinnen -> Pinnen [11:24] i think if you dont plan on very complex functions you could [11:25] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [11:25] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.167) joined ##slackware. [11:26] oh thats printer formatting then [11:26] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:27] CyberOwl (n=olivier@85.218.94.79) left irc: "Leaving" [11:28] ok, need to buy an usb wifi adapter/dongle, a keyboard and air cooling for my computer [11:29] any advice for the wifi adapter? [11:31] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:32] anyone have Chuck Martin's email address? [11:32] hmmm, no, I only have Chuck Norris' one ;-) [11:33] :p [11:33] found it [11:33] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-179-140-196.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [11:34] chuck norris can receive email at any address [11:35] he's got the internet in his head [11:35] mornin all. [11:35] mrnin [11:36] good morning agentc0re [11:36] chuck norris is email, he round house kicks all your requests to their destinations. why do you think they arrive so quickly? [11:36] mornings are never good. :P [11:36] i got shafted into running cat and A/V cable alll day today for a cousin [11:36] bah [11:37] anyone can help me chose a good usb wifi adapter? from those listed here: http://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/comparer,reseaux-sans-fil,130,1,1,1,309=1233,310=638 [11:37] chuck norris' inbox never gets any spam, NEVER [11:37] Scuzz: ick. [11:37] yeah [11:37] ill be in an attic for the most part [11:38] alice (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:38] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:38] pirateWesley: as it turns out sc is not suitable, but it can only handle columns upto ZZ, I want them to go at least up until AMJ [11:39] punch everything down so he has to buy x-over cables instead of patch cables. :P [11:39] lol [11:39] naw he knows better [11:39] we both do this for a living [11:39] doh [11:40] Well, do it anyways. :P then it'll just be a funny joke. [11:40] its the a/v cable thats gonna be a pain [11:40] running from the attic to the basemeant [11:40] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-110-135.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:42] rantjuho (n=juho@gw1.panoulu.net) joined ##slackware. [11:42] rantjuho (n=juho@gw1.panoulu.net) left ##slackware. [11:42] spectre1 (n=kyle@41.202.225.146) joined ##slackware. [11:42] tuxdev__ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [11:43] spectre (n=kyle@41.202.225.145) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:44] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30C16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [11:47] not sure, is there a zd1211 firmware in slackware? (it's a wireless usb adapter) [11:48] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:48] can i haz ls /lib/firmware, kthx [11:49] yes there is a zd1211 firmware [11:50] ok, first time I don't get bring my external drive with me and of course, I need a ton of things which are on it >< [11:50] thanks :) [11:55] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [11:55] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:55] Sys[BR] (n=sysbr@201.95.39.109) joined ##slackware. [11:55] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-110-135.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [11:57] craplja (i=craplja@server1.bshellz.net) joined ##slackware. [11:57] CTCP FINGER: from craplja (craplja!i=craplja@server1.bshellz.net) to ##slackware [11:58] based on the replies I received, it is safe to say this channel is botnet oriented [11:58] CTCP VERSION: from craplja (craplja!i=craplja@server1.bshellz.net) to ##slackware [11:59] yes, it is [11:59] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [11:59] I am reporting you to the authorities and the network administrators. [11:59] ok, come back soon [11:59] I'm not going anywhere. [11:59] You, however, are. [12:00] ok, what should I do to protect myself ? [12:00] I think the wifi adapter is ok :) [12:00] Camarade_Tux: Ok. [12:01] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG61ZpDfg4E [12:01] good song or best song? [12:01] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:01] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [12:04] hmm, somebody will be along to flush craplja down the toilet [12:04] he's keeping us safe [12:04] safe from what? [12:04] botnets, etc [12:04] Pig_Pen: I'll flush you down. [12:05] hes not keeping us safe , hes ratting us out [12:05] Scuzz: I'll rat you out. [12:05] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "I'm not a quitter, I just had to go" [12:05] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:05] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-56-142.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:05] dnftt [12:05] WendellViccica (n=wviccica@24.159.166.178) joined ##slackware. [12:05] hello [12:06] http://imagebin.org/72435 [12:07] anyone an xfce user here? [12:07] yes [12:08] mancha: try #xfce [12:08] can you tell me the default brightness and saturation values for the background? [12:08] hi WendellViccica [12:08] where is the group data stored exactly....i have a user that is in the right groups but my new user isnt in the right groups, but their settings are almost the same [12:08] craplja: dont try #xfce [12:08] Pig_Pen: Huxley was right it seems [12:08] i was just there [12:08] craplja: what are you here for? [12:08] mancha, 0 and 1.0 ! [12:08] i see elements of both in civilization/society [12:08] Settings -> Desktop (and read off the adjustment values) [12:09] Sys, thanks a bunch. [12:09] Pig_Pen: absolutely, more leanning towards Huxley's predictions though I feel [12:09] leaning* [12:09] Camarade_Tux: None of your business. [12:09] but okay, I will tell you 'cause I'm a nice guy [12:09] how do i put my new "test" user in all the right groups [12:09] I am here to a) troll b) annoy c) disrupt the channel [12:10] craplja: in the words of rworkman - FOAD [12:10] cuz my main user is in the right groups but it has nothing in /etc/gshadow [12:10] The_Seeker: No harsh words, please. [12:11] alienBOB: sorry to ping, can you help? "craplja : I am here to a) troll b) annoy c) disrupt the channel" [12:11] i guess i use usermod...but still wheres the data lol [12:11] no words, only an acronym [12:11] rworkman: same ^^ (three lines up) [12:11] /etc/group [12:11] yeah its not there....my first user is in the right groups but isnt mentioned in /etc/group or /etc/gshadow [12:12] The_Seeker: Ok. ESAD [12:12] ok grasshopper, what do you want to achieve? [12:12] craplja: DIAF [12:12] EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMinem The best Rapper ! [12:12] -craplja:##slackware- #defocus for general chit-chat. [12:12] Action: The_Seeker sits back and waits for things to return to normal [12:13] anyone got a mail from paypal wrt new contract terms? [12:13] -craplja:##slackware- things are........not...........normal [12:13] s/anyone/anyone else/ [12:13] Camarade_Tux, no [12:13] Camarade_Tux: I did [12:13] could be a scam, do the URLs check out? [12:13] looks legit but gmail put in in spam [12:14] Camarade_Tux: no new contract here [12:14] edman007: yes, and the name (has my real name) [12:14] -craplja:##slackware- helo. can someone help with slackware. is it good linux for hacking? [12:14] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] got it one hour ago [12:14] hmm ok thats crazy, i used usermod -G and now my new users shows up in /etc/group [12:14] Camarade_Tux, i havnt received anything [12:14] Camarade_Tux, oh....probably still sending [12:14] but my old user isnt in there anywhere and has the right groups LOLLLLLLLllllll [12:14] ok, brb :) [12:15] Camarade_Tux: mine came yesterday - it's legit [12:15] CTCP TESTING: from craplja (craplja!i=craplja@server1.bshellz.net) to ##slackware [12:15] via email The_Seeker ? [12:15] yeah [12:15] -craplja:##slackware- 18:15 -edman007(n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007)- stop sending notices to the channel [12:15] craplja, seriously, "getthefuckout" [12:15] I am...........transmitting.........messages............to.......##slackware [12:16] omg 5p101tz! [12:16] -craplja:##slackware- 18:15 < thrice`> craplja, seriously, "getthefuckout" [12:16] you are incurring the wrath of ##slackware [12:16] craplja: go away [12:16] I am a Windows Vista user (www.microsoft.com for more info). [12:16] Action: edman007 hugs /ignore [12:16] good idea edman007 [12:17] < The_Seeker> good idea [12:17] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:17] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:17] ketchup [12:17] welcome to ##slackware [12:18] k.e.t.c.h.u.p of the KETCHUP [12:18] go spam ##politics [12:18] uSlacker (n=uSlackr@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:19] SoRRy YoUr ReQuesT cOuLd NoT Be uNdersTooD [12:19] KB1JWQ: sorry to ask you but can you take care of our craplja friend? [12:19] AJLPARC REHTOM RUOY KCUF OG [12:19] YOB MAPS ERIF A NI EID [12:20] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:20] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*=wviccica@24.159.166.*' by rworkman!i=3356@about/slackware/rworkman [12:20] WendellViccica kicked from ##slackware by rworkman: rworkman [12:20] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*i=craplja@*.bshellz.net' by rworkman!i=3356@about/slackware/rworkman [12:20] craplja kicked from ##slackware by rworkman: rworkman [12:20] edman007: I think ignore is a bad solution because other still have this problem [12:20] rworkman: thanks! [12:20] Axius_ (n=fim@92.82.78.22) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:20] heh [12:20] how do I remove nicks from ignore? [12:20] rworkman: ty:) [12:20] /unignore ? [12:20] ##slackware: mode change '-b WendellViccica!*@*' by rworkman!i=3356@about/slackware/rworkman [12:20] unignore, I believe. [12:20] use /ignore Camarade_Tux [12:20] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.36.12) joined ##slackware. [12:21] jeev: <3 \o/ [12:21] Kerd (n=no@unaffiliated/kerd) joined ##slackware. [12:21] thanks Camarade_Tux [12:21] hi Kerd [12:22] hi g4tt0 [12:22] samuelig (n=samuelig@15.pool85-57-131.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [12:23] ##slackware: mode change '+o slackboy' by rworkman!i=3356@about/slackware/rworkman [12:23] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@134.53.180.* expired. [12:23] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*=4453b0ee@gateway/web/freenode/x-fbupmgkdmyphesgk expired. [12:23] ##slackware: mode change '-bb *!*@134.53.180.* *!*=4453b0ee@gateway/web/freenode/x-fbupmgkdmyphesgk' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:23] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:23] ##slackware: mode change '-o rworkman' by rworkman!i=3356@about/slackware/rworkman [12:24] What's the *easiest* way to merge PDFs in slackware? I've tried making a post script file and using latex to generate it... [12:24] but that seems overly complex [12:24] Okay, and now I'm off again to watch Alabama football! :-) [12:24] i use gs redtricycle [12:24] do you have it [12:25] yes, i do [12:25] that is an easy way to merge them [12:25] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:25] ah, ill try it [12:25] you want a sample command? [12:25] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:25] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*=wviccica@24.159.166.*' by rworkman!i=3356@about/slackware/rworkman [12:26] WendellViccica (n=wviccica@24.159.166.178) joined ##slackware. [12:26] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@24.159.166.178' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:26] WendellViccica kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Shrink your ego first [12:26] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [12:26] That *WAS* easy! [12:26] Thanks pirateWesley! [12:26] you're welcome [12:26] Do you happen to have a script to do it easily? [12:26] like [12:27] you were faster than my copy n paste [12:27] spectre1 (n=kyle@41.202.225.146) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:27] combinepdf.sh *.pdf [12:27] Yeah, the trick with Linux is knowing that these programs even exist... [12:27] o_O [12:27] ##slackware: mode change '-o rworkman' by rworkman!i=3356@about/slackware/rworkman [12:27] redtricycle: i store most used commands in a readme file [12:27] so that I can copy and paste [12:27] your choice [12:27] nod [12:28] since that was only one line i cant be writing a script [12:28] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:28] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [12:28] gs -dNOPAUSE -q -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=combined.pdf input1.pdf input2.pdf [12:28] cause it takes multiple inputs file1.pfg file2.pfg [12:28] summit like this [12:28] mancha: exactly [12:29] right, but with a script [12:29] you can use *.pdf [12:29] pdf not pfg* [12:29] yes [12:29] and do a for i in *.pdf linking? [12:29] now you're getting slick [12:29] lol [12:29] heh, i gave the command, you think you can make that a script on your own or need help there too? [12:29] No, because... [12:29] I need it in a certain order [12:29] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.167) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:29] Hm. [12:29] elliot98 (n=elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:30] i long for the days in which helpers got "thanks" instead of "yeah but help me moar" attitude [12:30] screw this [12:30] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-179-140-196.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-179-140-196.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:30] ?? [12:30] I'm not ungrately mancha [12:30] Thank you [12:30] oh i number my files [12:30] pirateWesley: nod, I was just doing that [12:31] ungrateful* [12:31] it's ok, just grouchy from feeling a bit sick is all [12:34] Okay, I see that *.pdf works for gs; I got use to programs that didnt allow that functionality [12:35] did it work for you? also keep in mind that you'll need a lexicographic ordering that jives with the pagination you want [12:35] charle97 (n=c@72.234.133.96) left irc: "leaving" [12:35] nod, I just numbered it like pirateWesley [12:35] yep, that's a good solution [12:36] who knows maybe you can come up wtih a right click menu in thunar/file manager that will do it [12:36] just keep in mind what happens if you go into double digits (ie 10 follows 1 not 9) [12:36] or folks that put SPACES in the file name [12:37] spectre (n=kyle@41.202.225.146) joined ##slackware. [12:37] ew, spaces =P [12:37] yep, those folks deserve 10-15 in a maxsec [12:37] no better is PMITA prison [12:38] beatzz (n=beatzz@71.144.19.200) joined ##slackware. [12:38] how do you find out your MoBo's bus speed? [12:38] i looked in /proc nothing there about the mobo [12:39] do you use kde? [12:39] yes sir [12:39] teh hardware display there might show it [12:39] but mobo? give it a shot [12:40] john_dee (n=id@95-29-12-148.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [12:41] Zero_ultimatum (n=kashyap@117.199.165.173) joined ##slackware. [12:41] rworkman: WendellVicci wasn't misbehaving actually [12:41] I want to be a jukebox hero :( [12:41] zero the hero :) [12:42] follow the hollow [12:42] can't remember where this's from [12:42] and gotta go [12:42] i wanna know what love is [12:42] i know you can show meeeee [12:43] Camarade_Tux: is there a way to display what type of memory technology your useing? [12:43] like PC2-4200 [12:43] or any of the others [12:43] PC-2100..etc.. [12:43] easiest probably to watch your post output. [12:43] dmesg? [12:43] wertik_rus|wrk (n=wertik@95-24-201-154.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:44] andreas-- (n=andy@unaffiliated/slacky) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Camarade_Tux: yes, I removed my ban - it was an accident. [12:45] Camarade_Tux: however, there's a previous ban in slackboy for that same ip, and I will *not* remove it because I didn't put it there. [12:45] hey guys i'm super super super duper super duper drunk [12:45] rworkman: you have exactly 777 friends on facebook [12:45] rworkman: ok, I see [12:45] spook: yes. [12:45] rworkman: also you should probably ban me from this channel right now so i cant talk [12:45] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-201-154.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:46] spook: I'll check in later and if needed, I'll +q. /me goes back to the game. [12:46] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:47] rworkman: no rly, just set mode +b right now. pls [12:48] leave on your own [12:48] thrice`, you're gonna leave? hell yea! [12:49] not yet, your sister said not to pick her up until 4 [12:49] thrice`: but then ##;szalcware osmt wiomdpw 3 [12:49] damn that girl [12:49] i told her not to mess with bald mexicans that weigh 400 lbs and have UBUNTI tatooed on their head [12:49] srecko (n=srecko@93.138.2.224) joined ##slackware. [12:49] /ban *!*@* [12:49] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.167) joined ##slackware. [12:50] jeev: thats pretty hilarious [12:50] :> [12:50] rworkman: pls pls pls [12:50] /ban *!*@* [12:50] !! [12:50] go go go go [12:50] rworkman: ok [12:51] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-18-109.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] Action: vastina has a new appreciation for the adage: think before you type... [12:53] brought the only working ethernet on my gateway down from 20 miles away :( [12:53] vastina: no such thing exists for frunk people [12:53] spook: haha! [12:53] vastina: what? stupid peioplem shpouldnt have root [12:53] i am drunk and i still deserve root [12:54] spook, your liver hates you [12:54] and your head will hate you in the morning [12:54] padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.251) left irc: "Leaving to bed....." [12:55] Pig_Pen: i dont get hangover headaches [12:55] also, already yacked a few times at the party [12:55] including on my shoe [12:55] just hope you dont get religious and start worshipping the porcelin idol [12:55] and my jumper [12:55] eww! [12:55] W|GGL|T_ (n=ron@c-68-33-193-204.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] god damn, emacs sucks [12:56] i just went through the first few tutorial [12:56] im giving up [12:56] vim ftw [12:57] icarus: dont give up [12:57] yes give up [12:57] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-110-135.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:57] icarus: slackware is the best boot loader possible for emacs [12:57] im not going to learn a new toolset when i know vim so well [12:58] but i just wanted to "see" it [12:58] maybe to hold off alzheimers if you were almost there [12:58] i can still edit lisp in vim [12:58] vi ftw! [12:58] VI!!! [12:58] vi!! [12:58] srecko (n=srecko@93.138.2.224) left ##slackware. [12:58] Action: pirateWesley holds two and i finger up together to spell VI [12:58] hi kids - I am still having probs compiling a working kernel - I went back and copied the config from the default slack 12.2 source and added the one driver I wanted to add and am recompiling (again) my previous efforts have ended with a kernel panic ...unable to mount root fs... My question is: will Slack 12.2 run on linux-2.6.31.6 or is that asking too much [12:59] fortunately, the kernel is just one modular component of the system. should you configure it right, it will run. [12:59] unixfool (n=ron@68.33.193.204) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:59] haha yes pirateWesley [12:59] oh wait its facing the wrong way [12:59] gem_cat: use the stock slackware kernel? [12:59] Slackware can run any kernel. You forgot to make an initrd. [13:00] YOU DONT NEED AN INITRD [13:00] you don't need an initrd [13:00] oh, thanks spook. [13:00] ineed [13:00] INB4 ZORDRAK RAGING [13:00] what do you folks make of slack13 [13:00] icarus: what about it [13:00] The default Slackware kernel doesn't use an initrd? [13:00] im testing it on vmware [13:00] gm152, the huge kernel not, the generic kernel will need one [13:00] icarus: slackware 13 ftw [13:01] it defauts to ext4 [13:01] which i thought was funny [13:01] gm152: hugesmp.s doesnt need it [13:01] Then I'm no sure what he meanss by "default" kernel then. [13:01] not * [13:01] icarus: the generic kernel needs an initrd [13:02] gem_cat: odds are you didn't build the / filesystem driver into your kernel. that or the dev entry has changed. (ie: /dev/hda -> sda) [13:02] beatzz (n=beatzz@71.144.19.200) left irc: "studying for Linux+" [13:04] slackie (n=x@213.63.200.78) joined ##slackware. [13:04] Karuna (n=chatzill@114.59.134.199) joined ##slackware. [13:05] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:05] thanks eviljames - I just downloaded the latest stable source - the slack site was down so I didnt get it from there [13:05] Karuna (n=chatzill@114.59.134.199) left ##slackware. [13:06] mwnn` (n=user@59.92.128.100) joined ##slackware. [13:06] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:06] W|GGL|T (n=ron@c-68-33-193-204.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:07] I thought about the filesystem driver - the boot seems to say fuse, is that the fs for boot? [13:08] nope, fuse allows you to load stuff like ntfs-3g [13:09] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.247) joined ##slackware. [13:09] FileSystem in UsErspace? [13:10] haha [13:10] gem_cat:ok,atm what is your '/' fs ? cat /etc/fstab | grep '/ ' [13:10] ext3 ? ext4? [13:11] /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 [13:11] so it's being read as a PATA hard disk [13:11] ext3 [13:12] that seems correct [13:12] gem_cat: make sure ext3 is build into kernel [13:12] ok [13:12] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [13:12] not as _module_ [13:12] ok [13:12] mwnn` (n=user@59.92.128.100) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:15] thanks init[1] - I have restarted my compile with that option [13:18] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [13:18] pupit (n=pupit@79.101.219.231) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:19] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: "Leaving." [13:19] back a bit later [13:19] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left ##slackware ("Listen to Bill Hicks"). [13:20] gem_cat: did it boot? [13:20] not about slack at all, but if i'll be using a drive just for storing my archived dvds (and watching them from it), will i notice a significant difference between a 7200 rpm and a 5400 rpm? [13:20] the compile will take a while on this box [13:20] jhw_ (n=jhw@p548F74F7.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:21] antler: Disk RPM will come into play if you have a gigabit network. In that case you will definitely notice it [13:21] antiwire: like grabbing stuff over the network, yeah? [13:21] For me, my system disk IO is the bottle neck now that I have gigabit LAN speeds between workstations [13:22] I saturate the disk subsystems long before the gigabit saturates [13:22] mwnn (n=user@59.92.144.2) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:22] antiwire: heh, so the short answer is "no, not for antler's purposes -- it won't make a difference"? [13:23] sounds good to me lol [13:23] bye [13:23] antiwire: heheh [13:23] think i'm exhibit A for that heh [13:23] 5400 and i use mplayer as wallpaper [13:24] antiwire: shopping around for a 1tb wd black, but everybody's out of them. will probably go for a green instead. [13:24] pirateWesley: too cryptic, i don't understand what you are saying [13:24] pirateWesley: you're saying yeah, get the 5400? [13:24] no you can *still use it but if you're shopping [13:25] then no [13:25] fsckin another one of my seagate's is starting to tick. only about 10 months old. [13:25] damn seagate [13:26] antler: is it an STM model? [13:26] antiwire: it's the 7200.11. tried updating the firmware with seagate's utitlity (from windows), but it's not updating. [13:27] antler SAVE YOUR DATA! :> [13:27] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [13:27] Action: init[1] omg [13:27] company policy _wd_ only (unless its a freebe) [13:27] tripFantastic: just backups of my dvds, no big deal, but still [13:27] what is the disk's model number though? [13:27] STXXXXXX or STMXXXXXXX? [13:27] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left ##slackware. [13:28] antiwire: my disk's model number corresponds to the affected drives (their model numbers) found on seagate's website. [13:28] LitesterB (n=Litester@CPE0050ba681424-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [13:28] antiwire: one sec [13:28] smartctl -a /dev/deviceherenopartitionnumber [13:29] antler ok; and yea. i know [13:29] antiwire hdparm can give the info [13:29] antiwire: i'm in windows atm. it's STXXXX...... [13:30] Gah [13:30] its *NS or *AS? hehe [13:30] tripFantastic: that's cute, but smartctl will give us the info along with a quick run down of disk health. Two birds one stone. [13:30] Stop hilighting me! [13:30] ok [13:30] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:151) joined ##slackware. [13:30] antler: are you going to warranty return it? [13:31] my hd, int and ext, all sleep alot; i finally heard a fan start up the other night [13:32] antiwire: i have no choice but to rma [13:32] i would LOVE to return it [13:32] (even at 1/2 price) [13:33] Zero_ultimatum1 (n=kashyap@117.199.160.90) joined ##slackware. [13:34] i don't think i'll ever go seagate again [13:34] EVER. [13:34] stupid barracudas :P [13:35] Action: vastina quite likes the cheetah, and all seagates for that matter [13:35] Seagate for SCSI the way to go [13:36] defo [13:36] vastina: my hate is transitive; therefore, i hate you (somehow) :P [13:36] But to be quite frank about it, all disks fail [13:36] ok, i know you? [13:36] antiwire: so true [13:37] vastina: no, i don't know you. it was a vacuous remark :D [13:37] antler, hd's all have indefinate lifespans - that means you will have to deal with tech support eventually and I have had good experiences with wd [13:38] gem_cat: i think you mean "indeterminate". and yeah i agree. [13:38] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] greetings and salutations [13:38] antler: i'm aware, no hard feelings [13:38] vastina: :D [13:39] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:39] Heres a quote daytraders use "Past Performance Is No Indication Of Future Results" , I like to apply that to harddrives and be careful all the time (backups) [13:39] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving." [13:40] greetings andarius:) how are you? [13:41] salutations hitest, i am doing OK I guess for having just woken up. how about you ? [13:41] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:41] samuelig (n=samuelig@15.pool85-57-131.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:42] andarius: I am doing well, ty:) I am moving at the same pace you are....I'm glad it is Saturday:) [13:42] as am I, very much so [13:42] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host114-70-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:42] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [13:42] can't friggin believe it. i like it a 1st world country, it's the 21st century and the city doesn't have caviar blacks. wtf. [13:43] *live in a... [13:43] this is what I have in my laptop http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=482 [13:45] i thought wrongly that scorpios were blue only [13:45] win 11 [13:45] bah [13:45] hey that rhymes [13:45] denied :P [13:47] Seagate 1TB Barracuda 7200.12 SATA II w/ 32MB Cache for $86.99 CDN is sooo tempting, though. [13:47] the wd 1tb black is 109.99 here [13:49] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-171-132.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:52] Zero_ultimatum (n=kashyap@117.199.165.173) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:53] http://www.pricewatch.com/browse/hard_removable_drives/sata_1tb_32mb/brand,western_digital/0 [13:54] tb drives will be like 38 bux [13:54] in two years heh [13:54] the WD 1TB is in a different form factor [13:54] mobile drive, that is [13:54] might not fit in some laptops [13:54] oh [13:55] It's 12mm instead of 9.5mm [13:55] 12.5 isnt going to fit in most laptops :( [13:55] 2.5mm diff lol [13:55] yeah, they fit an extra disk in there [13:55] sucks if it didnt fit [13:55] which is how they get 1TB [13:56] gem_cat: us site. that's a little more expensive after conversion. [13:56] (shipping would probably be 7 bucks on top of that) [13:57] I keep looking - but have no budget at all :( [13:57] $7 buys you one stroke from a ho [13:57] maybe 2 [13:57] When I'm in a foreign country, I convert everything to bottles of coca cola =P [13:58] prashant_ (n=prashant@122.172.151.82) joined ##slackware. [13:58] hello everyone [13:59] http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284&cm_re=caviar_black-_-22-136-284-_-Product [13:59] newegg doesn't necessarily mean cheapegg [13:59] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [14:00] no, but it does mean dependable shipping, service and such [14:01] canada was good to me - when I was there the exchange was much more favorable - I came back with tagless teabags stuffed in every space in my luggage [14:02] you damn tea smuggler [14:03] you tea bagged yourself [14:03] gem_cat: yeah, must've been a few years since you were here; the exchange rate then favoured the canadian dollar [14:03] Nick change: alienBlu1b -> alienBlurb [14:03] antiwire: lol [14:07] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:07] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:07] yes a few years back - I had never tasted a scone - now they have them in the grocery here [14:09] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:09] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:10] Zero_ultimatum1 (n=kashyap@117.199.160.90) left irc: Client Quit [14:12] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:12] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-53-250.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [14:13] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:13] Hello :) [14:13] morning fredoslack [14:14] redtricycle, morning for you ^^ [14:14] ^_^ [14:14] 20h14 pm at home =) [14:14] 22 14) [14:14] eventually I will finish compiling - bbl [14:14] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-18-109.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: "vanishes with a small pop" [14:17] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0B936.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:27] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@24.159.166.178' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:28] never mind with slackware 12.2 I'm goign to get 13.0 [14:31] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0B936.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Client Exiting" [14:34] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:34] slackware 13.0 is 3.65gb right? [14:35] does anyone know how to setup dansquardian with ident on Slackware? [14:35] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [14:35] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:35] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:36] oh wtf, I was lost in backlog again thought this chan had been silent for an hour [14:36] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Action: hitest wonders if anyone has seen Old_Fogie.... [14:39] lol hitest [14:40] remember someone came in and ctcp'd or dcc send something [14:40] he was vulnerable, i forgot how, i think router.. [14:40] and now we have you [14:40] he came back and i told him if he doesn't fix it -- someone would surely do it again [14:40] he said he'd rahter not come back! ;D [14:40] okay [14:41] thanks [14:41] i think that was him heh [14:43] a ctcp or dcc does not mean your OS is vulnerable, thats just an irc client feature [14:43] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:43] wrong answer [14:44] no [14:44] there are a handful of consumer level gateway routers that have a built in 'feature' of disconnecting themselves when they receive a specific DCC ctcp string [14:44] Apparently a malformed dcc request can cause linksys routers to be punted from irc. [14:45] hmm, my stinksys might be [14:45] diogenes323 (n=diogenes@adsl-99-151-125-154.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:45] a few have been hit with that here before. got one of them a ban [14:45] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-201-154.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [14:45] yea but the point was he was unwilling to look for a fix [14:45] and assumed that everyone on earth is a decent person and wouldn't do it [14:46] what can they do? boot you off the net for a short time? its not like they get remote control of your PC [14:46] Remote control of a system isn't always the goal. [14:46] eh, it just makes their router kill the connection, probably reconnect instantly or whenever the client feels like it [14:46] DoS situations are quite often desired just as much as remote control [14:46] Pig_Pen: it's a DoS attack, could be advantageous on a network like efnet to steal someone's nick. [14:48] what version of linksys router is vulnerable? [14:48] Pig_Pen: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=linksys+router+irc+disconnect [14:49] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:49] seems it gets some netgerars as well [14:50] unixfool (n=ron@c-68-33-193-204.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:50] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-171-132.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [14:51] http://osvdb.org/show/osvdb/60407 [14:51] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:54] eviljames, i remember something about that and changing your connect port would fix it [14:54] iirc [14:54] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-171-132.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:55] seems my router is effected [14:55] then test it [14:55] go for it, its just a cheap router, and i am not going to get mad and stomp my feet [14:56] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:57] i think if you change your port from the default 6666 to 6667 it will take care of it, not sure why i remember that though [14:57] i did disable upnp, one of those websites said to do that as a work around, i dont think i ever used upnp anyway so i wont miss it [14:57] then again, looks like xchat is using 8001, so no clue [14:57] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:58] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-171-132.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [14:59] WendellViccica (n=wviccica@24.159.166.178) joined ##slackware. [14:59] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@24.159.166.178' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:59] WendellViccica kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Shrink your ego first [14:59] haw haw [14:59] awesome [15:00] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:01] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-171-132.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:02] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.140.197) joined ##slackware. [15:03] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [15:05] brb [15:05] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [15:05] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [15:06] diogenes323 (n=diogenes@adsl-99-151-125-154.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:07] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [15:08] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:09] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:09] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [15:10] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:151) left irc: "Leaving" [15:11] methinks I prefer 2 finger scrolling to vertedge [15:11] debate. [15:12] circular scrolling ftw [15:16] well, that's something new to play with [15:16] I hadn't ever checked it out.. [15:16] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [15:18] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:18] I think I'll update to slackware64 current. [15:18] hiya fire|bird [15:18] Greetings everyone. :) [15:19] heya hitest, how are you? [15:19] salutations fire|bird, how goes [15:19] fire|bird: I am well. ty:) you? [15:19] greetings andarius, I am great, thank you. yourself? [15:19] hitest: great, thanks. :) [15:19] not bad, not bad at all [15:20] Hi fire|bird and eviljames [15:21] =) [15:22] does there exist an official/unofficial slackware "screenshot of desktop" site? [15:22] hi fredoslack [15:22] DurR (i=root@79.108.155.58.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:22] hi [15:22] can someone help me? [15:22] http://slackwaregallery.org/ [15:22] DurR: not if we don't know the question. [15:23] ;) okey [15:23] DurR: also, it is inadvisable to irc as root. [15:23] hyke (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:23] okey wait :P [15:23] DurR (i=root@79.108.155.58.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:23] faus (i=faus@79.108.155.58.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:23] okey :) [15:24] now :) my question is why the oidentd of my machine doesnt work with the ipv6 support ? [15:24] ;) [15:24] ah, make firefox (maybe seamonkey too) scroll any number of lines with the mousewheel http://pastebin.com/m5be741ea [15:24] ? [15:25] mugshots of slackers :) i like it [15:25] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:25] someone can help ? [15:25] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:25] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:25] giada (i=1001@217.201.15.22) joined ##slackware. [15:26] faus: don't use ipv6 myself, sorry... [15:26] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:26] giada (i=1001@217.201.15.22) left ##slackware. [15:26] well .. with slackware 12.2 it works [15:26] but i update to slackware 13 ... and ... now doesn`t work .. [15:27] w [15:27] you dont want my mugshot, i am so ugly i would break your monitor and you would be pouring bleach on your eyes [15:27] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:27] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:28] okey thanks :0 bb ;) [15:28] faus (i=faus@79.108.155.58.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:28] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Ho_çakal1n | Bye bye" [15:29] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.140.197) left irc: "Leaving" [15:30] Pig_Pen: ;-) [15:30] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:31] Pig_Pen: no one is that ugly:) [15:31] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:32] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:32] hitest: Pig_Pen is the nickname just of his face. [15:32] heh [15:33] that was a pity chuckle.. i realized after pressing enter how bad that shot was. [15:33] I must need more coffee. [15:33] installing new package e/emacs [15:33] DAMMIT I forogt to delete package series e again... [15:34] i am old and wrinkled my face looks like a railroad map [15:34] so in -current are amarok and k3b more feature-full? [15:34] because I think k3b in 13.0 is slightly b0rked, and amarok is getting there but not quite where I want it to be yet. [15:34] Pig_Pen: join the club, man:) I'm pretty old as well:) [15:35] slackie (n=x@213.63.200.78) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:35] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.1" [15:35] slackie (n=x@213.63.200.11) joined ##slackware. [15:35] eviljames: not much has changed with amarok in -current, it's version 2.2.0 and no major features, etc. were really added, aside from when you play a song, it shows photos and video (thumbs) related to that band. [15:35] kde-4 needs more work i am not going to try kde-4 again until next year [15:35] i was young when i had hair on my head. [15:35] Pig_Pen: kde 4.4 is looking great. [15:36] i'd say kde 4 is ready as of 4.2 [15:36] fire|bird, do i have to wear sunglasses using it? [15:36] fire|bird: you're running 4.4? [15:36] fire|bird: 2.2 got replaygain support [15:36] pprkut: doh! that's right. Thanks. :) [15:36] also, if it's so cool, im afraid it's gonna snow right behind me. [15:36] hitest: no, it will be released early next year. I've read about it though. [15:37] ah, thanks [15:37] 4.3.1 on the laptop and 4.3.3 on the laptop here. [15:37] err, 4.3.1 on desktop. :P [15:37] eviljames: are you using lastfm? If yes, it will require some work with the version in -current [15:37] I'm running xfce and flux on my boxen [15:38] flux on this unit [15:38] fire|bird: the weird thing about the replaygain support is, I can't tell if it's really working :/ [15:38] pprkut: nah, once they announced it would become a paid service I moved on. [15:39] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:39] fire|bird: the command line output suggests so, but the volume of some files is hearably lower than of others [15:39] pprkut: Hmm, I'll have to mess with it myself and see if I can tell if it works. I have 2.2.0 on the desktop too. [15:39] well, I'm still on beta 1, maybe that's the issue :P [15:40] erm, wait, I'm on 2.2.1 on desktop and laptop. [15:40] built that the day it was released. [15:40] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-67-191-58-46.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:40] either way, I'll mess with it here. I'm curious now to see what it does, if anything. :P [15:41] hitest: One potential feature kde 4.4 will get is a tabbed ui, like what flux has had for forever. [15:41] nice [15:42] hitest: yeah, I've seen some mockups of it, looks really good. [15:42] and support for pulseaudio \o/ [15:42] Action: pprkut ducks [15:42] omg [15:42] what ? [15:42] pprkut: ewww [15:43] look forward to seeing 4.4 in -current at some point [15:43] user2438 (n=user4592@adsl-99-162-227-97.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:43] hitest: same here. :) [15:44] :) [15:44] pprkut: Is 4.4 going to require policykit, or, like 4.3.x, be optional? I haven't really seen for sure. [15:44] no idea [15:44] With something more recent than a qt version of 4.5.3 which Opera doesn't like. [15:44] haven't had a look at recent kde versions [15:45] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [15:45] pprkut: just curious, that would certainly affect whether it makes it to slack -current or not after it's released. [15:45] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:47] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:47] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:48] teckan (n=teckan@p5499C310.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:48] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [15:49] Ohh...right...I forgot to set up multilib [15:49] So Virtualbox didnt compile -_- [15:51] linuxquestin (i=189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-wtmduldoejkskaxw) joined ##slackware. [15:51] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:51] anyone know why startx -- :2 as a second user causes Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key ??? [15:53] im amazed no one has responded to this question in ANY channel....ever. [15:53] yup, we are pretty amazing [15:53] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [15:53] ive tried export DISPLAY=:2 then startx -- :2 [15:54] i mean its running as a seperate user, so why can't it open its own x server [15:54] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [15:54] wait let see [15:54] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [15:54] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:54] why run two servers? perhaps two clients instead. though I am unsure as I don't have to users [15:55] you're on another vt [15:56] ok...i copied .Xauthority from user 1 to user2 [15:56] now some files start on user1's screen, and it says cannot start window manager on screen zero [15:56] i thought the syntax for a second screen was alwys startx -- :1 2 3 etc [15:56] linuxquestin: start anew with :3 not :2 [15:56] it must haev change [15:56] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [15:56] ive tried :5 [15:57] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] but without any .Xauth [15:57] oddharjar (n=harjar@193.91.148.253) left ##slackware. [15:57] so syntax must be different... :3 is same as :2 in this case but ill try with :3 [15:58] yeap -- :? is wrong syntax now....wonder what the xorg syntax is [15:58] may have to have different user, this Xauth could be hosed [15:58] i just delete .Xauthority from user2 so it can make its own [15:58] problem is it cant start its own screen because i dont know the syntax anymore [15:59] nano -w `which startx` [15:59] baad [16:00] whiskas (n=mc@87.72.242.147) joined ##slackware. [16:00] defaultdisplay=":0" [16:00] hi [16:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@75.111.161.89) joined ##slackware. [16:00] authdisplay=${display:-:0} [16:00] and try with startx -- :3 vt9 or something [16:01] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.167) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:02] glenj (n=glen@67.237.234.179) joined ##slackware. [16:03] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:04] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:04] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [16:04] how do I set keymap in X, when booting into runlevel 4, using kde display manager? [16:04] grazymax (n=grazymax@host168-2-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:05] circle scrolling has become annoying. [16:05] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:05] the ring switcher? [16:06] makerc (n=godzila@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [16:06] eviljames: hehe. you need to get used to it. I found it very confusing at the beginning [16:07] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [16:07] pirateWesley: not working [16:07] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:07] how not? [16:08] no desktop period no X? [16:08] same things...its trying to start on :0 [16:08] hence magic cookie thing [16:08] once MAGIC COOKIE errors appear I find it much easier to set up a new user [16:08] faster [16:08] and get him on X [16:08] pprkut: it seems to activate itself at the most inopportune times [16:09] um i did just setup a new user [16:09] pprkut: probably I have to configure it more to my liking.. [16:09] thats the whole point i want 2 users with 2 desktops [16:09] eviljames: indeed. I spent much time in figuring out the perfect trigger for it, since I had "normal" scrolling activated as well [16:10] should be able to, no .Xauth from the beginning linuxquestin ? [16:10] i just deleted them all again [16:10] eviljames: I set my trigger to the lower left corner [16:10] whiskas (n=mc@87.72.242.147) left irc: "Leaving" [16:10] can you try it yourself? make a user "testing" and just try to startx -- :2 from a console login [16:10] or :1 in your case [16:11] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [16:11] ill kill Xvfb and see if testing can start on :1 [16:12] nope [16:12] and see if i copy my main users .Xauth file to test/.Xauthority then the magic cookie error goes away but the windows start on :0 even with startx -- :1 [16:12] pirateWesley (n=jazz@adsl-233-244-188.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [16:13] and the window manager wont start cuz there is one already running on :0 but im telling :1!!11111111 [16:15] trying to start a second x session? [16:15] as a second user [16:15] ah [16:15] which should be easier to do than with the same user.... [16:16] or both should be easy.... [16:16] i start a second one pretty often as the same user. haven't tried two users [16:16] which command do you use [16:17] http://vpaste.net/2dSV1? [16:18] she_dyed (n=jazz@adsl-233-244-188.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] the -nolisten and -ac are a bit of a security kludge, but it didn't concern me at the time [16:18] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] thanks ill test this with .xinitrc [16:18] Nick change: she_dyed -> PirateWesley [16:18] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:19] yes i had .xinitrc with awesome [16:19] hiptobecubic: wow...that was easy [16:19] as wim [16:20] it works now? [16:20] with his script [16:20] what script or you only had to make an .xinitrc [16:20] apparently you have to manually use xinit now because xorg doesnt care about backwards compatibility [16:20] http://vpaste.net/2dSV1? [16:20] and put APPNAME as ./.xinitrc [16:20] thanks hiptobecubic [16:21] ah cool mine only had exec awesome [16:21] but hey if it works [16:22] linuxquestin, no problem [16:22] hiptobecubic: any idea why its "that" complicated now? its not complicated once you know but...it used to be startx -- :? [16:23] that one still works for me [16:23] as long as you have an .xinitrc [16:24] linuxquestin, well. The DISPLAY is so you don't bulldoze your old one and the options after -- all have something to do with not using security checks so taht you don't have to bother with .Xauthority or anything [16:24] linuxquestin, why the first one is easy as cake and the second requires all of that, i'm not sure. That script was a lot of trial and error. [16:24] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] linuxquestin, also, i didn't want another desktop session. i wanted to run a specific app. StarCraft for example. or StepMania [16:25] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: "That's my story, and I'm sticking to it." [16:25] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:26] In 13.0, by what mechanism are usb drives mounted? How could I force noatime for an automatically mounted usb drive? [16:26] I'm using XFCE is that has any bearing. [16:27] s/is/if [16:30] Lafy (n=mattlafy@CPE001e58f014d6-CM00140457c0d6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:30] how can i check why my print jobs are failing? lpq retries a few times then tells me error [16:32] idk maybe /var/logs/cups? [16:33] no such file [16:33] would it be an lpd error? [16:33] my bad [16:33] there's no lpd in /var/logs eiter [16:34] no that would be /var/log/messages maybe [16:34] im hacking pekwm into xfce4...so i can tab group windows [16:35] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [16:47] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:1eb) joined ##slackware. [16:50] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-18-109.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] I have a new and working kernel :) [16:51] me too! [16:51] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:51] thanks for the help and encouragement [16:51] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-110-135.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [16:52] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-18-109.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware ("fades slowly from view"). [16:53] hehe with pekwm tabbed window groups...now i definately need to make my xterm titles say more than just xterm :P [16:54] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [16:54] The IBM developerWorks Web site is currently under maintenance. Please try again later. [16:54] boo [16:55] ubuntu_ (n=ubuntu@151.53.11.200) joined ##slackware. [16:55] qual'e' meglio slamd64 o bluewhite64? [16:56] waffle [16:56] ? [16:56] pancakes [16:57] exactly, I have no clue what you said either [16:57] however waffles are freakining awesome [16:57] oh sorry :( i was saying ... [16:57] no you weren't. [16:58] dellwood (i=489337bb@gateway/web/freenode/x-mhraklwjtsxsovhm) joined ##slackware. [16:58] ...which distro is better for an amd64 slamd64 or bluewhite64??? [16:58] neither [16:58] ubuntu_: slackware64 [16:58] slackware now has a 64-bit arch [16:58] salckware64 is [16:58] obvious troll is obvious [16:58] dellwood (i=489337bb@gateway/web/freenode/x-mhraklwjtsxsovhm) left irc: Client Quit [16:58] yes, but there are NO pkgs for slackware64 [16:59] ubuntu_: slackbuilds.org has plenty of scripts that are 64bit capable. [16:59] i mean is not possible (for example) to use slacky.eu repository [16:59] pragma_ (n=pragma@unaffiliated/pragma/x-109842) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:59] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:59] ive been seeing a lot of that site mentioned lately [17:00] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@24.159.166.178 expired. [17:00] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@24.159.166.178' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:00] pragma_ (n=pragma@unaffiliated/pragma/x-109842) joined ##slackware. [17:00] you mean i have to build a program any time? no reps for slackware64? [17:00] ubuntu_: I couldn't give a tarts furry cup about that. [17:00] ubuntu_: use slackbuilds.org [17:00] ubuntu_: slackware doesn't have any other official repositories than the official mirrors. [17:01] Guys this is a straight up troll [17:01] come on [17:01] antiwire: buy me beer first ;) [17:01] damn slackware must suck if it can do what ubuntu can do [17:01] lol [17:01] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-203.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:02] it would take a year to build my new system :) [17:02] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] best start building then! [17:02] dellwood (i=489337bb@gateway/web/freenode/x-cuhhqubzlhexvtcr) joined ##slackware. [17:02] a year?!! it will be obsolete by the time you complete it [17:02] hmm, if a machine today would take a year to build, but in half a year might take 4 months [17:02] Action: fiyawerx head asplode [17:03] In Slackware 13.0 , what is the mechanism by which usb drives are mounted automatically? I'd like to change the mount options for one of my drives. [17:03] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-110-135.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:03] dellwood (i=489337bb@gateway/web/freenode/x-cuhhqubzlhexvtcr) left irc: Client Quit [17:03] nathanbw: you mean in fstab? [17:04] ok guys thanks for the NOT HELP AT ALL :D [17:04] SuperManLinux (n=chatzill@124.43.51.17) joined ##slackware. [17:04] hal and/or udev are what youneed to address [17:04] you may go now [17:04] ubuntu_: tried Windows Me? [17:04] http://ploug22.free.fr/doc/l-tip-prompt.pdf [17:05] anyone here that has managed to compile gmpc-mserver? [17:06] ubuntu_: if you have to build all your own packages, at least you will learn alot [17:06] its better to build you're own packages anyway [17:06] that way theya re compiled for your system [17:06] not someone elses [17:06] toastytoast, thats why we're all using gentoo, right? [17:07] oh yeah [17:07] ;) [17:07] Action: hitest giggles [17:07] gentoo even tho i know its a pain to set up it does run very nicely [17:07] its not like compiling yourself makes that huge of a difference these days on newer machines [17:07] classic [17:07] Action: The_Seeker is using Peanut Linux [17:07] -O1337 [17:07] anyone tried lfs [17:07] not that huge is stilla differnece plus lie latemus its a good way to learn [17:07] --omgz-optimized [17:08] latemus: I have done LFS [17:08] antiwire: lol [17:08] yea, so why you guys are using an "allready made" distro like slackware, you should start using LFS [17:08] The_Seeker, the usb drive in question doesn't have an fstab entry. [17:08] someone ban the troll already [17:08] becasue we are alzy [17:08] we are salckers [17:08] JJJunkk_ (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:09] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [17:09] ;) [17:09] there are no distros except slackware and the prophet Pat V. [17:09] antiwire: it seems like it would be a natural transition to lfs from slack [17:09] anyway it would seem form you'r ename you're an ubuntuard i heard int he next version they will have a program that whipes your ass for you [17:09] i've been thinking about it [17:09] ubuntu_: because I like the tassie devils [17:10] ubuntu = Linux for Dummies [17:10] andarius, I've looked in /etc/udev and /etc/hal and there don't seem to be any configuration files that would allow me to manually set mount options. I'm pretty sure creating an entry for the drive in fstab will override the default options, but I'd like to learn more about how it's being mounted now. [17:10] latemus: It was. I started with Redhat 5 then built an LFS system from that. After the process of LFS I found Slackware and realized that it provided the middle ground I wanted. [17:10] so please, the fact that my nick is ubuntu doesn't mean i use ubuntu dorks! [17:10] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:11] ewww Google Chrome OS seems to be built a bit on top of ubuntu [17:11] Pig_pen: or noobs. [17:11] as much as i dont like that everyone is obsessed with that lame distro at least its opensource [17:11] and linux [17:11] :) [17:11] ubuntu_: Just one more piece of evidence which suggests you are only a troll. [17:11] kitche: The .iso I trued displayed a built with openSUSE Studio or whatever it is. [17:11] s/trued/tried/ [17:11] then ubuntu what distro do you use? [17:11] nathanbw: do you want your USB drive mounted at boot? [17:12] kitche, what makes you say that? [17:12] please stop the flame war on you're favourate linux distro , what I need is listen to the channel and learn [17:12] fire|bird: maybe I jsut eman they only support using ubuntu to build it right now really [17:12] kitche: ah ok. :) [17:12] it probably builds on others but probably need to do some work with them [17:13] The_Seeker, naw, this is a drive I'll use for backups. I plan on plugging it in every few days. I'd just like to turn off atime, since with it rsync takes forever. [17:13] toastytoast: slackware... but not in this moment :) [17:13] if you use slackware like you say then stop complaining about it [17:13] this was just relesaed this week, wasn't it? I know there were some "google OS" based iso's floating around but they weren't the real thing, just centralized around google apps [17:13] fiyawerx: was released thursday [17:13] ah [17:14] ah thought it was older the way fire|bird said it [17:14] For someone who already uses Slackware questions like this are quite odd "(2009-11-21 13:58:22) ubuntu_: ...which distro is better for an amd64 slamd64 or bluewhite64???" [17:14] ChromeOS is just an experiment in running everything in the cloud. Try it if you want, it's no replacement for a desktop. [17:14] hiptobecubic, dont think its meant to be [17:15] i just wanted to know if there were any other repos for a 64bit slackware based distro. THAT'S ALL DORKS! [17:15] indeed antiwire it si a very strange question [17:15] ubuntu_, that's not what you asked though [17:15] fiyawerx, it's going to be the sole OS on netbook "appliances". [17:15] hiptobecubic, nod [17:15] just use slackbuild.org [17:15] my point was just that [17:16] just use slackbuilds.org ? [17:16] ubuntu_, quit being an ass, sir or madam. [17:16] with or without the s [17:16] Obvious troll has morphed into fail troll. [17:16] where is my irc sweety? missyjane? [17:16] shes checking her stash, Pig_Pen [17:16] you know missyjane is a guy, right? [17:17] thats what he told you, thrice` [17:17] no [17:17] ok, keep pretending then :) [17:17] Action: jg71 nods, farts, and smells [17:17] my noobfarm sense is tingling [17:17] yeah silly there aren't any girls on the internet let alone ones that use slackware :p [17:17] nathanbw: mount LABEL=mydisk -o noatime,nouser [17:18] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.88.50) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:18] there is only one confirmed female that comes in here, she is married with a new baby, lives way up north [17:18] nix_chix0r [17:18] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.39.199) joined ##slackware. [17:18] and i thought it was l00t- ... silly me [17:18] The_Seeker, thanks. I was actually trying to avoid manually mounting it (which is why I'm interested in who automatically mounts it now.) [17:19] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:1eb) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:20] i am still trying to get missyjane to show me her pic [17:20] nathanbw: you could always add a line to fstab with noauto so it won't complain should you boot without it plugged in [17:21] caixabox_ (n=Hrt@201.72.198.138) joined ##slackware. [17:21] makerc (n=godzila@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [17:21] thrice`, :D [17:22] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] nathanbw: /dev/sdx /mount/point ext3 defaults,noatime,noauto 0 0 [17:23] nathanbw: as for hal/udev - that's beyond my knowledge [17:23] what program do you like the most to view pdfs? i am using xpdf right now (i used to use evince in arch) [17:23] teckan: Okular [17:23] kpdf, now okular [17:23] I use the Adobe viewer [17:24] xpdf has had some nice patches fromthe openbsd crew when it came to drm madness ... so i usually got xpdf handy too [17:24] evince is good. the adobe viewer is bloated but offers the most functionality [17:24] if i had to pick one and only one i guess i'd go evince since it can handle many formats (not just pdf) [17:25] teckan: there's always apvlv [17:25] anyone got a prompt they are really proud of? [17:25] PS1=$ [17:25] yeah it looks like this :~# [17:26] bash-3.1$ [17:26] hehe [17:26] C:\ ;) [17:26] you sick bastard [17:27] export PS1="\[\e]2;\u@\w\a\e[32;1m\]\u@\w\$\[\e[0m\] " [17:27] you cheeky bastard [17:28] just what i want, to be reminded of my username and my hostname in green, every damn time [17:29] no hostname [17:29] mancha, well your nick is green [17:29] what is \w ? [17:29] working directory [17:30] ah ok. [17:32] export PS1="\[\e]2;\u@\w\a\e[32;1m\]bash-\v\$\[\e[0m\] " [17:32] so only the xterm title has \u@\w [17:33] http://buhkit.net/~michiel/pictures/cli_prompt.png <-- my PS1 prompts [17:33] ah and got rid of colors now, this is nice [17:33] thanks BP{k} [17:34] another choice: use zfs; autoload prompt_init ; prompt -l [17:34] s/zfs/zsh/ <- woops [17:35] export PS1="\[\e]2;\u@\w\abash-\v\$\[\e[0m\] " [17:35] ubuntu_ (n=ubuntu@151.53.11.200) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:35] ok i don't kniow where to begin... [17:35] i use bash like prompts even in zsh [17:35] cyan for user red for root [17:35] BP{k}: what's that behind the terminal? looks like the training room in The Matrix [17:36] The_Seeker: one sec, I'll post the background :) [17:36] k [17:36] hades? [17:36] have you had that many bad experiences doing stuff as root? [17:37] it only takes 2. [17:37] first time you say: "damn, I'll never do THAT again... wtf was I thinking.." [17:37] The_Seeker: http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3328/98026428pe1.jpg [17:37] eviljames: my computers are named after Greek mythology. [17:37] 2nd time is when you swear loudly & repeatedly for an hour or so and actually don't do something again. [17:37] yeah but it would take a lot for me to accept the red "root" a-la danger, will robinson! [17:37] BP{k}: very nice - thanks [17:37] BP{k}: me too! dataset's name is hades, desktop is chimera, laptop prometheus, itouch behemoth [17:38] i guess behemoth isn't greek... [17:38] is the itouch linux'd? [17:38] eviljames: my computer is hades, keths is persephone, old laptop is dionysus, my current laptop is hermes and wap is aether. ;) [17:38] gnubien (n=e@97.100.244.209) joined ##slackware. [17:39] mancha: not yet. I was originally concerned with voiding my warranty, then stopped caring. [17:39] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:ad) joined ##slackware. [17:39] forget the warranty and zap the fucker already [17:39] i haven't even jailbroken it, I have windows virtual machine w/ itunes to load music onto it. [17:40] gtkpod? [17:40] I used to use egyptian, so gf's ipod is still named Qetesh [17:40] amarok. [17:40] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.36.12) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:40] eviljames: hehe, when I reuibld this computer, we switched from B5 to the greek ;) [17:40] why not use gtkpod instead of itunes inside a vm? [17:40] Lafy (n=mattlafy@CPE001e58f014d6-CM00140457c0d6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: [17:41] gtkpod cannot speak with the ipod touch, afaik. [17:41] orly? [17:41] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.36.12) joined ##slackware. [17:41] yeah, some dealie of ssl over usb, gtkpod doesn't have keys... only itunes. songbird, i heard as well, but haven't tested. [17:41] caixabox_ (n=Hrt@201.72.198.138) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:42] BP{k}: I'm using the periodic table of elements in one network. [17:42] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.129) joined ##slackware. [17:42] they should really stop trying to up their encryption on those gadgets. what the hell is cupertino so worried about? [17:42] router is hydrogen (.1), mail fileserver is helium (.2).. so on. [17:43] pekwm with xfce4 is pretty nice...gets confusing having seamonkey, icecat, and firefox with tabs all in a window tab group though :p [17:43] they just don't want people building a second store instead of the itunes music store. [17:43] latemus (n=m@67.177.49.147) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:43] right now itunes is the #1 place on earth that people buy music, just about last year finally outselling wal-mart [17:43] caixabox_ (n=Hrt@201.72.198.138) joined ##slackware. [17:43] did the beatles every sign with itunes? [17:44] i dunno [17:44] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:44] or whoever proxies for the beatles these days... [17:44] aloha slackers :-) [17:44] greetings macavity, how are you? [17:44] if whoever owns the beetles music signed a bulk agreement or something.. [17:45] evil, i'd jailbreakit, put some solid OS on it and enjoy things like ogg vorbis files [17:45] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [17:45] fire|bird: most exquisit sir, and how migh you be? [17:46] macavity: I am great, thank you. :) [17:46] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [17:46] mancha: I think I might embark on that. [17:46] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:47] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] fire|bird: you can tell that i am doing dictionary excercises again, cant you? :P [17:47] macavity: indeed. [17:49] RickKnight (n=rick@75.6.186.146) joined ##slackware. [17:51] I'm looking for a Slackware package but the package browser is still down. Where can I download packages? [17:51] the dark side of the moon has some nice slackpack stash [17:51] ;) [17:51] any slackware mirror [17:52] phoenix89 (n=phoenix@ip68-2-20-163.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:53] wargod (n=wargod@203.88.90.202) joined ##slackware. [17:53] Where can I find a list of mirrors? [17:53] same place you can get a clue [17:54] RickKnight; go to slackware.com [17:54] slackware.com/getslack [17:54] yep [17:54] just use osuosl.org [17:54] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.21.63) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:54] macius (n=macius@i209-195-80-193.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:55] linuxquestin (i=189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-wtmduldoejkskaxw) left irc: "Page closed" [17:56] linuxquestin (i=189fa6b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-zfhozwinexzyxfic) joined ##slackware. [17:56] Thanks hitest & linuxquestin [17:56] np [17:56] yw [17:57] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.ftslgt stop" [17:57] RickKnight (n=rick@75.6.186.146) left ##slackware ("Leaving..."). [17:58] slackie (n=x@213.63.200.11) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:59] nite slackers [17:59] nn [17:59] The_Seeker (n=seeker@5ac89913.bb.sky.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:59] what is wrong with slackpkg? [17:59] ? [17:59] glenj (n=glen@67.237.234.179) left ##slackware. [17:59] slackpkg search string [18:00] and slackpkg download package [18:00] wargod (n=wargod@203.88.90.202) left irc: "Leaving" [18:01] slackpkg is awesome :) [18:01] nothing short of it [18:01] the template system is especially nice [18:02] i am contemplating hacking in support for SBo packages too.. though just for local use :P [18:02] hello all is slackware 13.0 3.65gb [18:02] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [18:02] bennymack (n=ben@cpe-72-231-198-162.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:03] wtf http://realtimecollisiondetection.net/blog/?p=101 [18:03] Kidpunkx: last time I checked, the main DVD iso was just 1.7GB [18:03] Kidpunkx: or do you mean when installed? [18:04] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78.134.123.55) joined ##slackware. [18:05] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:05] Kid, sounds about right, 3.6-3.7 gig range. if worried check the md5sum [18:05] http://omploader.org/vMnR0dA [18:06] ah, yes, 3.7GB [18:06] latemus (n=m@c-67-177-49-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] its the mondayly -current builds from ftp.slackware.no that are 1.7GB [18:07] Action: kitche goes test out google chrome os dev build [18:07] anyone that can find those isos can upgrade to -current on their own :p [18:07] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.110.50) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:08] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:08] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackware-hrvatska.org) joined ##slackware. [18:08] haqe17 (n=haqe17@host-137-205-27-227.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:09] im gonna guess the new build of php will be in /patches tomorrow? [18:09] PirateWesley (n=jazz@adsl-233-244-188.mia.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware ("bye"). [18:09] what site usually has the latest iso's [18:10] my two faves are 15 days untouched [18:10] end of the world is near, tripFantastic [18:10] id panic [18:10] must be [18:11] deco: with the xfce swirl? [18:11] there a way to kill a 'defunct' process ? its not dying w/ -9 [18:11] just wondering [18:11] mozilla/ has been touched in years [18:11] slack/ since 2005 lol [18:11] the p patches aren't lways very fast to come out [18:12] wth dont atime's propogate to parent/ ? [18:12] manchai dont know anything about md5sum [18:12] i could give it to you [18:13] Kid, do this to the iso: md5sum file.iso [18:13] Nick change: nessundorma_ -> nessundorma [18:15] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:15] Nick change: nyRednek_ -> nyRednek [18:15] is this regular 13 or 64-bit 13? [18:15] http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0-iso/ [18:16] its the dvd version on there [18:18] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:18] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: [18:18] note to self, mistakenly having ff use a non-gui helper app to open a filetype freezes emyfing [18:19] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [18:19] how do i "clean up the trash manualy"? [18:19] anyone run mythtv on slackware [18:19] i guess i could cli it and rm but it would be nice via kde. [18:22] davey_joop (n=dave++@212.183.140.17) joined ##slackware. [18:24] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:25] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.129) left irc: "leaving" [18:32] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.24.129) joined ##slackware. [18:34] elderK (n=zk@125-236-160-175.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [18:34] Hey guys, [18:34] is there anything firefoxy, but QT? [18:35] or, mayhap, gtk-qt for 3.5.10? [18:36] Action: jg71 is still on 3.5.5 [18:36] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [18:38] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.81.131) joined ##slackware. [18:38] jg71: you may be the one to talk to then :D [18:38] Have you had any luck getting things liek Firefox to fit in? [18:38] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [18:38] Or, have you stuck to your guns and kept using Konqueror through the ages? [18:38] Really all I care about with FF is NoScript and Adblock :) [18:39] if I can achieve the same easily with Konqueror, I'll be happy enough with that :) [18:39] elderK, i have no idea what your troubles are. [18:39] elderK: you mean you wan tthe theme to fit with kde ? [18:39] you want the* [18:39] Yeah :) If possible. [18:39] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [18:39] Last few times I've tried to built gtk-qt from source i've had issues, I forget why nowadays. [18:39] elderK: ah you just need gtk-chtheme [18:39] I can change the theme by hand :) I dont need gtk-chtheme to do that :) [18:39] problem is, I need themes that match up between KDE and GNOME :) [18:40] which may or may not be a hassle :) [18:40] depending on the theme I favor :) [18:40] elderK: get a gtk that looks like kde [18:40] gtk theme [18:40] Is that not difficult? [18:40] I wouldn't even know what to search for :) [18:40] elderK: google ... [18:40] Oh an dhey, has anyone had much luck with Compiz on 3.5.10 ? :) [18:41] I'm keen to try it out for once :D [18:41] :D Google, but of course. [18:41] KDE GTK themes. [18:41] :P [18:41] *SIGH* [18:41] Action: deco goes away [18:42] :) Thanks for hte advice, deco ;) [18:43] Slackers...how do you Remote Desktop to Windows computers? [18:43] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [18:43] does mplayer support viewing streaming video [18:43] I'm going down the Virtualbox->Windows->Remote Desktop route [18:43] Was wondering what the easiest way is [18:44] mayhap vnc? [18:44] not really sure :) never had to rdc to xp :) [18:45] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:46] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30C16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [18:47] latemus, usually yes [18:49] jg71, the issue was "to make gtk apps fit in, themewise, with gtk" [18:49] :) did you ever really care? [18:49] I figure the only gtk apps I use are gimp and firefox, and really, I'll be focusing on the content of hte pages, or the work im doing on the images, so, the decorations really dont matter. [18:49] you mentioned themes... who are you? ;) [18:50] :D The Kmeister! [18:50] :D [18:50] of KONFUSION! [18:50] Channel flood from elderK -- kicking [18:50] :D [18:50] elderK kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [18:50] elderK (n=zk@125-236-160-175.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [18:50] Action: jg71 chuckles [18:50] ^_^ Good times. [18:50] really, themes are just bling. [18:51] Aye, precisely what I figure. [18:51] i feel sympathetic to your cause but i dont care for my stuff. it's gotta work and best not annoy me bling-wise. [18:51] you should be doing shit, rather than focussing on icing. [18:51] if it fits in /generally/ enough, like, doesnt cause my attention to focus on the disparity, I generally dont give a crap :) [18:51] i AM in a world ... of SHIT. [18:51] oh, why? [18:51] which movie? ;) [18:52] Action: elderK shrugs [18:52] Action: jg71 gasps [18:52] wobaaafetttttttttttttttttttttt [18:52] :P [18:52] full metal jacket. [18:52] O_o [18:52] :P [18:52] I did say confusion, didn't I? [18:52] yes. and i got sidetracked. good luck with your quest ;) [18:53] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "time for a supply run" [18:53] u guys haz teh confus too?!? [18:53] I iz haz confusssssssssssssssssssssssssss [18:53] ^_^ teh confuzor! [18:54] the sweet canadian girl i know upgraded her ubuntu installation today, and now her computer won't boot [18:54] sad times [18:54] you might go down ... there. [18:54] chee: easy fix, replace Ubuntu with Slackware. ;) [18:54] chee: that tells me two things [18:54] andreas-- (n=andy@unaffiliated/slacky) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:54] tell me what it tells you, macavity [18:54] chee: a) canadian girls seem like my thing (which i didnt know), and b) ubuntu sucks (which i actually did know) [18:55] canadian girls are totally cute <3! [18:55] i'm in love with several of them [18:55] do they know about your harem? [18:55] pics or she doesnt exist :) [18:55] $LC_LOCATION girls are totally cute :P [18:56] lol [18:56] thats your problem right there, chee [18:56] install a wireless cam [18:56] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:56] being in love with canadian girls, jg71 ? [18:56] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.36.12) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:56] or my harem! [18:57] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [18:57] nope, your lack of reading ;) [18:57] if your harem consists of russian guys you might have a problem :P [18:57] that would be a problem. [18:57] even worse if the russian guys are ukrainian [18:57] I ate some spinach a moment ago. [18:58] Action: macavity calls a GP [18:58] it doesn't matter how much spinach you put in the pan, you always end up with about 1 spoonful [18:58] chee, :D [18:58] heh [18:58] strange things .... first bling, now spinach. what next? [18:58] your problem is putting spinach in a pan [18:59] jg71: dendrochronology? [18:59] only if theres a money-back quarantee, macavity [19:00] i dont see how dating things by wood year rings relates to money, their refundance, or a quarantee therof [19:01] has everyone in this room at least once been in a situation in which they needed access to the internet in order to establish an internet connection? [19:01] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:01] affirmative [19:01] what a funny situation. It's the sort of thing Hemingway would have written about [19:02] i have also been in the situation where i needed to insert a cdrom into the drive for which a driver was requested [19:02] haha [19:02] Keyboard Failure, press F2 to enter set up [19:02] dont laugh.. it was what windows95 did if you moved the CDROM from master to slave or from primary to seccondary [19:02] oh yes.. [19:03] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Connection timed out [19:04] filiberto (n=asd@190.142.148.231) joined ##slackware. [19:04] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [19:04] i've been using arch so far and been meaning to switch to something more stable. Is slackware as vanilla as arch with its packages? [19:05] pretty sure that slackware is more vanilla then arch is [19:05] great. is it like debian in the sense that it auto configures everything? [19:06] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30C16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:07] depends what you mean by "everything" :) [19:07] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-104-56-142.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:07] i dont think it gets much more vanilla then slackware [19:07] slackware doesn't provide any user-space settings (like wallpapers, or default themes). stuff like x.org pretty much configure themselves on most distros these days [19:08] will it sed configuration files/show dialog everytime something is installed? automagically populate menu.lst, etc. [19:08] i'd say it's equal to arch in that sense [19:08] except, we use lilo :> [19:09] the problem is that i want the security and stability of debian but want none of its other packaging standards and the complexity of .spec files [19:09] i'm thinking crux and slackware are my only options [19:09] well, the main thing about slackware is that it's package manager doesn't resolve dependencies [19:10] it's probably one of the more stable distros you'll find, though [19:10] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:10] does it uses the traditional runlevels or is it centralized on one file? [19:11] it uses runlevels, with a bsd-like init system [19:11] speaking of deps, when you download a dependancy such as a library, generally speaking it should go in /usr/lib, right? [19:11] filiberto: it supports Sys V style runlevels, but the pase package is far less complex [19:11] *base [19:12] latemus: it should go where the package think it should go [19:12] and packages have longer lifetimes than in arch? i want to refrain from constant updates [19:12] filiberto: we dont have rolling releases [19:12] alright so far im sold :) [19:12] filiberto: that is, slackware 13 is 13 untill 13.1 comes out.. unless there is a security update [19:13] the only worrisome thing is no grub. ive never used lilo before [19:13] filiberto, sure, updates are still being pushed out (security) from slackware 9 or something [19:13] thats what i want, only security updates between releases [19:13] filiberto: you can just install grub after your first boot [19:13] macavity: there is no standard directory in which to put missing libraries ? [19:13] lilo sets itself up during the install, it's pretty easy [19:13] filiberto: it is in the extra/ dir on the DVD [19:13] gauge (n=gauge@65.96.216.121) joined ##slackware. [19:14] macavity: thats cool, ill be sure to install grub if i go for slack :) [19:14] latemus: what do you mean "to put" [19:14] filiberto: are you trying to compile something by hand? [19:14] eek [19:14] latemus: ^^ that was for you [19:14] are packages signed? [19:14] yes [19:15] Have you guys tried xmonad? [19:15] and official packages are fully seperated from community packages [19:15] most of us here swear by slackbuilds.org and its frontend sbopkg for community packages [19:15] what's in the other slack/ dvd's after #1? [19:16] iso's [19:16] macavity: for example, rTorrent requires libTorrent.so. the documentation does not say where to put libTorrent.so. isn't the general rule for programs to search in /usr/lib for library deps? [19:16] and slackpkg for official packages [19:16] yes [19:16] hmm, the crux channel is dead. are there significant differences from crux (besides not being sourced based)? [19:16] the site should say [19:16] tripFantastic: there is only one DVD iso.. but a heck of a lot of CD isos (i think we are up to 6) [19:16] it's source based :D [19:16] k [19:16] alkos333: yeah great wm, but installing it needs quite a lot of stuff including ghc the haskell compiler [19:16] crux is constant-updating too [19:16] latest debian ships on 9 dvds [19:16] not to the extent of ARCH, lets say [19:16] i'm looking at 13.0-iso, aug28th [19:16] latemus: this whole "to put" thing seems that you are doing something funny [19:16] if you dont need haskell other than that it can somewhat be a probelm [19:17] are there newer? [19:17] sahk0: Yeah, I know. Do you use it on daily bases? [19:17] latemus: personally i put homebrew stuff in /usr/local/lib/ so i can wipe it if need be [19:17] i just installed debian stable on a whim and so far i cant deal with how messy /etc is [19:17] so slackware it is [19:17] alkos333: i dont use it anymore since a year or so. [19:17] latemus: but generally, if you are that interested, look at the Linux FHS [19:17] please explain "messy [19:17] sahk0: How come? [19:17] filiberto, cool :) come back with any questions, this channel is pretty helpful most of the time [19:17] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:18] i have a few debian boxen and no concerns with /etc [19:18] macavity: by 'to put' i mean where in the file system . ok thanks. i'll take another look at the FHS. [19:18] alkos333: too many deps, bit hard to mantain packages. not worth it imo. its just a wm [19:18] macavity: name.d for everything, no iptables folder (why move it from there?) a vim folder for a single file (vimrc), so much more things [19:18] you can do the same with dwm [19:18] filiberto: oh, and read all the urls in the topic if you dont want look stupid ;-) [19:18] hs Pat updated any packages since aug 28th? [19:18] hs/has [19:18] i meant mancha [19:18] at least what *i* want [19:18] i gathered [19:18] sahk0: Well they are all on slackbuilds.org .. there isn't much to maintain.. [19:19] tripFantastic, not in the form of .iso's, but: http://slackware.com/changelog/stable.php?cpu=i386 [19:19] k [19:19] yes, the debian folks seem to like moving stuffabout just for the exercise of it :P [19:19] alkos333: well yeah but those arent exactly maintained iirc [19:19] but xmonad is fantastic. [19:20] sahk0: Alright, so why xmonad over dwm? [19:20] what is it? [19:20] oh [19:20] what iptables folder in /etc? [19:20] is tds miror upto date? [19:21] alkos333: although i am not the person to answer that xmonad can be very extendable with xmonad-contrib for example [19:21] impulse_ (n=impy@88.147.64.235) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:21] and the config files (in haskell) are pretty readable [19:21] tripFantastic, yes [19:21] k [19:22] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:22] ah, yatwm [19:22] heres my last xmonad config. dont remember which version http://github.com/grbzks/config/blob/master/.xmonad/xmonad.hs [19:22] working as a fullscreen wm [19:22] hmm, error on slackpkg [19:22] compiling configs seems kind funny [19:23] tripFantastic: you didnt pick a mirro... [19:23] i did [19:23] *mirror [19:23] did you update ? [19:23] tht's what it failed on; cp'ing files to the tmp/dir [19:23] are you running as root ? [19:23] free space? [19:23] `cant stat' [19:23] plenty [19:24] cant stat /tmp? [19:24] thrice`: xmonad is not like dwm in that dept. (if by compiling configs you meant that) it reads the config in runtime [19:24] a file under [19:24] run slackpkg update again [19:24] as root [19:24] i am always root [19:25] i dont su* [19:25] I worried about that :) [19:25] the slackpkg.*/ doesnt exist after the run [19:25] about what? [19:25] if you are using KDE/XFCE/whatever as root you are an idiot who wont listen to common sense [19:25] i dont kde [19:25] bbox [19:26] right, cause X doesn't run as root anyways :) [19:26] caixabox_ (n=Hrt@201.72.198.138) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:26] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:26] caixabox_ (n=Hrt@201.72.198.138) joined ##slackware. [19:26] that qualifies as "whatever" [19:26] sure, but firefox, etc. definitely should not [19:26] hmm, slackpkg rmdir's tmp/slackpkg.* when it finishes [19:26] uhm, yes.. its /tmp [19:26] i think that's a error in logic [19:26] Quiznos will never change apparently. [19:26] i cant review the changelog now [19:27] what's the latest slackpkg version? [19:27] it copies the changelog to /var/lib/slackpkg/ChangeLog.txt [19:27] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:27] no, will you please read the manpage? [19:27] chking [19:27] no var/.../slackpkg [19:27] slackpkg v2.70.5 here [19:28] looks like you have hosed your box somehow [19:28] how? [19:28] i havent touched/used slackpkg in weeks [19:28] 2.80.2 here [19:28] kk [19:28] i thought you were on slackware 13? [19:28] Sys[BR] (n=sysbr@201.95.39.109) left irc: "Leaving" [19:29] nop [19:29] it would have been nice if you mentioned that you werent using latest stable.. that is what people take for granted unless you say otherwise [19:30] (unless release was a very short time ago) [19:30] sorry [19:30] do i have to drag the version out of you with a tracktor? [19:31] for what? [19:31] the dist? [19:31] Debian GNU/Linux of course :P [19:31] heh [19:31] 12.2 now [19:31] smokeybandit (n=cntrfeit@207.237.64.142) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:32] i love Debian 12.2 [19:32] caixabox_ (n=Hrt@201.72.198.138) left irc: Client Quit [19:32] what are you trying to do? [19:32] update to slakcware 13? [19:32] update 12.2? [19:32] i just ftp'd 13.iso, so i've gotta write a dvd later [19:32] no; just chking 12.2 versions [19:32] seeing what slackpkg will do [19:32] chking for 12.2 updates [19:32] well.. it looks like you either hosed your box or failed to install something that slackpkg needs [19:33] i bought a tv card, so a shutdown is inevitable RSN [19:33] which tv card? [19:33] a no-name called Angel [19:33] but since you are so 1337 to run bbox as root i would assume you tried to do some kind of minimal install? [19:33] Y2002 [19:33] latemus (n=m@c-67-177-49-147.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:33] does it also double as a vid capture device? [19:33] no, complete install [19:34] i'm not sure; i've gotta google the card and find its caps [19:34] it's got cable-in and looks like 2 svid outs, but i dont have svid devices here [19:34] but i'd like to be able to record to disk [19:35] and i have to split the cable from the wall [19:35] only coax in? hrmm, it'd be nice to have svid in or at least rca in [19:35] tripFantastic: strace slackpkg update > logfile -> pastebin [19:35] dont forget to press Y if it asks [19:35] i have the slackware 13.0 inside and i typed root how can i mv files from my hard drive into my usb stick [19:35] well, there are also two micro-plug-in ports but it's dark here and i cant see the legends for the micro-ports [19:35] macavity k, moment [19:36] tripFantastic: turn on a light? [19:36] for that i highly recomend the clapper (tm) [19:36] harmattan (n=navegant@82.158.226.112.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [19:37] hey guys, what do you think about this? http://vcn.bc.ca/~dugan/setting-up-slackware.html [19:37] lotec lol; i use christmas lights year round; nice and mild lighting; axe me tomorrow after sun up ;) [19:37] smokeybandit (n=cntrfeit@207.237.64.142) joined ##slackware. [19:37] macavity ``i really dont want to download ALL the other files'' [19:37] you guys dont know how to mv fileds into a usb stick [19:37] no change in changelog found [19:37] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:37] teckan, he knows what he's doing [19:38] lotec i'm an old stiff slacker :) [19:38] teckan, "Start by installing the Linux versions of Adobe Reader, Flash Player and RealPlayer." [19:38] teckan oops last for you [19:38] idiots! [19:38] kid, you mount the stick and mv to it just like you would to any other dir [19:38] lol [19:38] i take it than gentoo is out of the question if one's expecting simplicity? [19:38] lol [19:38] i tried gentoo once. that was enough for me [19:38] rofl [19:38] filiberto, gentoo is simple if you want it to be [19:38] dont like genfoo? try LFS [19:39] psychonautlib (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:39] psychonautlib (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Client Quit [19:39] jg71: i did, but got tired of fetching patches from different distros [19:39] i'm really too lazy to try anything else that isnt on a dvd and bootble [19:39] mancha well that is a problem I'mn running root through a cd [19:39] dont like gentoo? try osx :D [19:39] how can i do it [19:39] through there [19:39] Kid, i don't know what that means. [19:39] just mount the stick [19:39] "man mount" [19:39] macavity you wnt i should `download other files' too? [19:39] tripFantastic: Y [19:39] how can i mount it if i'm nbot even boot into lilo [19:39] k [19:40] never run root through a cd, it might damage the cd [19:40] i'm running root threoughj slackware cd [19:40] macavity where do you want the file? [19:40] Rolenun, careful with macs. did you know about http://consumerist.com/5408885/smoking-near-apple-computers-creates-biohazard-voids-warranty ? [19:40] Kidpunkx: have you just booted the CD, or did you use it to actually boot the installed system? [19:40] thrice`: the problem is that i dont want to learn emerge's libraries (e.g., ewarn instead of plain old echo in buildfiles) [19:40] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [19:41] I've booted the slackware 13.0 dvd [19:41] and typed root [19:41] and I'm tyring to mv my file to a cd from my har ddrive [19:41] Kidpunkx: ok.. dmesg and see which device the USB thingie is on, then mount it [19:41] jg71: oh, I dont use them, I just recommend them :D once you go mac, even gentoo looks good :D [19:41] Kidpunkx: same for the harddrive [19:41] and useflags, although genius, seem like too of an ambitious concept. i wouldnt expect stability from gentoo because of it [19:42] Rolenun, i cracked myself up on that story. wiped tears, even. [19:42] Kidpunkx: then cp/mv the files from one place to another [19:42] lol [19:42] did i read that right your "copying to a cd" ???? [19:42] macavity okay! [19:43] filiberto, I've always thought portage to be the best package manager out there, but the ebuilds are too complex for me [19:43] btw, "mv" is not a copy, it is a move [19:43] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.39.199) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:44] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [19:44] macavity http://filebin.ca/rpdxwh/macsl [19:44] impulse (n=impy@88.147.64.235) joined ##slackware. [19:44] mv = cp; rm [19:44] Kidpunkx: like "mkdir /mnt/usb-disk /mnt/hdd" and "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb-disk" and "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/hdd" and "cp -r /mnt/hdd/* /mnt/usb-disk" or or whatever is applicable [19:44] sigh i dont want to turn into a distro hopper :) ill try slackware for a week before dling 200 isos [19:45] distro whore [19:45] filiberto, based on your description above, I think you'll like slackware :) just try it out [19:45] destructive tendency, mancha :) [19:45] thrice`: yea lol its like the website was written for me [19:46] macavity okay i have the usb stick mounted now i need to find my har ddrive [19:46] hehe, I need to be careful when specifying spicy when I order chinese food from this place......this stuff is so hot, I have no basis for comparison..... [19:46] variant spacing! nice! [19:46] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:46] can i type dmesg | tail? [19:46] yes [19:46] no, the harddisk will be way up further [19:46] Rolenun i live for spicy but none are near me [19:46] dmesg | less [19:46] and dig throught it [19:46] davey_joop (n=dave++@212.183.140.17) left irc: "Leaving" [19:47] or jsut check ls /dev/sd* [19:47] or ls /dev/hd* [19:47] depending on whatever it is IDE or SATA [19:47] Alba[onga (n=alpha@93.45.116.134) joined ##slackware. [19:47] tripFantastic: me too, but this is wicked lol. I put tabasco sauce on my chips and cheese and barely taste it anymore.....this is some really strong stuff :D [19:47] tripFantastic: have you dont something funny to your file permissions on /tmp? [19:47] lol neat [19:47] tripFantastic: as every filedescriptor on /tmp seems to go haywire [19:47] tripFantastic, ls -l /tmp [19:48] thrice` ty, i know [19:48] sorry [19:48] ls -dl /tmp [19:48] ah, macavity beat me to it ;) [19:48] :-) [19:48] macavity 4g free on / [19:48] full of the chinese red peppers, small little peppers that are really hot, onions, etc :D [19:48] mode is normal tmp [19:48] Rolenun practice [19:48] \o/ [19:48] ok i'll view macsl [19:48] paste: ls -dl /tmp [19:48] harmattan (n=navegant@82.158.226.112.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "leaving" [19:48] drwxrwxrwt 15 root root 1245184 2009-11-22 01:43 /tmp// [19:49] macavity hold on maybe you could help me without me moving files around [19:49] spectre (n=kyle@41.202.225.146) left ##slackware. [19:49] hmm [19:49] macavity i had a kernel panic so I'm trying to fix it any way [19:50] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:50] can you boot the system normaly? [19:50] time to add some tabasco sauce :D [19:50] Rolenun add sugar to dilute spice [19:50] Rolenun: why not some tobacco sauce while you are at it? :P [19:51] no kernel panic i was enabling HT [19:51] so disable it [19:51] maybe if i run init [19:52] chrome_ (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/chrome/x-455334) joined ##slackware. [19:52] i could fix the problem [19:52] you are on the CD [19:52] yeah [19:52] root [19:52] macavity no kernel errors reported during slackpkg run [19:52] disable HT in the kernel [19:52] tripFantastic: i know.. i grepped the strace [19:52] i mean in syslog [19:53] well i need to enable ht [19:53] macavity: nah, may get lung cancer if it goes down the wrong pipe :D [19:53] Kidpunkx: why? [19:53] Rolenun sugar! [19:53] makes my system faster [19:53] lol [19:53] Kidpunkx: btw, did you pick hugesmp.S when you installed it? [19:53] Kidpunkx: or did you just pick huge.S? [19:54] tripFantastic: I dont like sweet and sour chinese food! :D [19:54] heh k [19:54] then suffer :) [19:54] tripFantastic: i cant figure out why your /tmp doesnt work [19:54] I'm not suffering lol, this is great stuff :D [19:54] Rolenun i think you're an amateur chin eater [19:54] macavity yea, i'll have to ponder it [19:55] heh, right.....this isnt even on the standard menus.... [19:55] macavity afaict, no other app has a prob writing to tmp [19:55] it [19:55] it's a specialty order :D [19:55] Kidpunkx: just disable HT in the BIOS for now, then boot your system normally so we can get to diagnose the problem [19:55] ok hold on [19:56] macavity a chin family once adopted me as fave visitor to their restaurant; i eat well and off the menu too. [19:56] ate [19:56] enabling my ht increases my system performance to 4% faster [19:56] oops [19:56] anyone knows about a good and secure password manager? [19:56] rolenun a chin family once adopted me as fave visitor to their restaurant; i ate well and off the menu too. [19:56] ~/password.txt [19:57] .netrc [19:57] tripFantastic: my friend's dad was a master chef in china :) we ate at his house all the time hehe [19:58] nice [19:58] he got me hooked on some really funky stuff lol [19:58] heh [19:58] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.123.55) left irc: "Leaving" [19:58] i'm a former new yorker; i miss chinese food [19:59] chinese food? you guys have some of the best hot dogs anywhere :/ [19:59] street food is good but i'm not in ny atm [19:59] Nathan's [19:59] I'd be going through withdrawal lol [19:59] lol me too since last century [20:00] lol [20:00] I like Chicago dogs, but definitely prefer New Yorks :) [20:01] Kidpunkx: oh, and you should SO read this about HT: http://techreport.com/articles.x/4358/5 [20:01] to all intends an purposes, HT in the form that was delivered in the Prescott series is a hoax [20:01] no more and no less than a hoax [20:02] at least in Core i7 they have given each hardware thread its own ALU registeres [20:02] Rolenun fundamentally, i miss nyc (and yonkers) water. [20:02] then it only becomes a hoax if you run out of L2/L3 cache :P [20:02] s/if/when? [20:03] chee (n=chee@cpc1-lisb2-0-0-cust370.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [20:03] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Excess Flood [20:03] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [20:03] whatever you run out of cpu cache is *highly* dependant on the application [20:04] why doesnt cache-line processing keep up? [20:04] or is it bad compiler? [20:04] scheduling on compiler's part? [20:04] video encoding/decoding really benefits from caches because it is a very itterative process [20:04] nods [20:05] but if you do simple things on a huge dataset that is randomly accessed the cache becomes next to irelevant [20:05] ok; i've read about that; that's not limited the way you say. it's a systemic prob, compiler scheduling prob and kernel prob [20:06] not enuf cache ram also [20:06] candinho (n=candinho@200-168-69-158.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:06] but yes, looking apart of the data processing, a multithreaded app that doesnt use TLS much, should benefit somewhat from two hardware threads with seperate ALU registers [20:06] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-53-250.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving." [20:06] user2438 (n=user4592@adsl-99-162-227-97.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:06] could, yea. [20:06] tripFantastic: read "What every programmer should know about memory" by Ulric Drepper [20:07] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:07] also, on the Forth usenet list, one of the regulars there did research into semi-insn/data ordering and determined that for x86 > 5, separate segs are required so that the cachelines remain separate. [20:07] macavity ok (anything else on my tmp prob?) [20:08] candinho (n=candinho@200-168-69-158.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [20:08] hey guys, where abouts can I find the XFT Development libraries in Slackware? [20:08] ... remain separate and filled [20:08] elderK: we dont split packages into main and -devel [20:08] then it shouild be with libXft ? [20:08] elderK: so if you have libxft installed, then you also have the headers [20:09] I wonder why im having such trouble then :/ [20:09] elderK: less /var/log/packages/libXft* [20:09] grep em [20:09] I have libXfont, libXft [20:09] grep em hold em xz em [20:09] elderK: is it a ./configure script that is crapping out? [20:10] yeah, kde. [20:10] candinho (n=candinho@200-168-69-158.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:10] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30C16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [20:10] elderK: which part of kde? [20:10] kdegraphics [20:10] a stable kde ? [20:10] then KDE is being a bitch about it.. it could just look in /usr/lib/pkgconfig/xft.pc [20:10] are you using the build scripts from the Slackware source? [20:10] SuperManLinux_ (n=chatzill@124.43.61.228) joined ##slackware. [20:11] even modified [20:11] aye, kde3.5.10 [20:11] you want kde3 for slackware13? [20:11] oh dont know about that [20:13] ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/unsupported/kde-3.5.10-for-slack13.0/ [20:13] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: "Leaving" [20:13] no, for slack12_2 [20:13] slackware 12.2 shipped with 3.5.10 [20:14] candinho (n=candinho@200-168-69-158.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [20:14] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [20:14] candinho (n=candinho@200-168-69-158.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:14] I know [20:14] but Im still building it [20:14] :) [20:14] Rolenun (n=Rolenun@unaffiliated/rolenun) left irc: "Bye" [20:15] he wants -1337-fun-roll-loops :P [20:15] Kerd (n=no@unaffiliated/kerd) left irc: "Leaving" [20:15] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] candinho (n=candinho@200-168-69-158.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [20:16] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:17] dont seem have to have fontconfig-config [20:18] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Connection timed out [20:19] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [20:19] hello all :) [20:21] good night all [20:21] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [20:27] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:27] teckan (n=teckan@p5499C310.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:29] SuperManLinux (n=chatzill@124.43.51.17) left irc: Connection timed out [20:30] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:ad) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:32] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [20:33] lagann_ (n=hex@c-24-63-84-228.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] lagann_ (n=hex@c-24-63-84-228.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [20:34] teckan (n=teckan@p5499C310.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:03] vimtutor in section 6.4 copy & paste teckan [21:03] twolf_ (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:03] yoyoned1 (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] BP{k}: hey man!! how are you ? [21:03] gar0t0: I am good. yourself? [21:04] BP{k}: I'm good too!! buy "things" on dealextreme [21:04] :D [21:04] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [21:04] gar0t0: anything good? [21:04] hey [21:04] BP{k}: / [21:04] ? [21:05] BP{k}: I'm thinking about buy it http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.17299 [21:05] gar0t0: haha .. :))) [21:06] don't spill any liquid on them [21:06] BP{k}: I don't know, in brazil I don't need this [21:07] does anyone here use gnumeric @ slackware 13? what are the alternatives? [21:07] godling: hahaha [21:07] (i don't like openoffice) [21:07] yoyoned1 (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:07] toytoy (n=dindin@119.94.207.180) joined ##slackware. [21:07] cazathoth (n=ircap@168-72-21-190.adsl.terra.cl) joined ##slackware. [21:07] yoyoned1 (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] cazathoth (n=ircap@168-72-21-190.adsl.terra.cl) left ##slackware. [21:09] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [21:09] BP{k}: You saw, probably Schumacher race in Mercedez team [21:10] macius (n=macius@i209-195-80-193.cia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:10] grazymax (n=grazymax@host168-2-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [21:10] "By default VirtualBox will be compiled with hardening enabled. That [21:10] means all binaries will be run suid root, which is the default [21:10] behaviour of upstream packages." [21:11] grazymax (n=grazymax@79.13.156.125) joined ##slackware. [21:11] gar0t0: heh, doesn't he have a contract with ferrari as a consultant? [21:11] what does this mean exactly? i compiled it and now i am not able to use it with any other user besides root (even though i added them to the group vboxusers) [21:11] gauge_ (n=gauge@c-65-96-216-121.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] gauge_ (n=gauge@c-65-96-216-121.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [21:12] did you check ./configure --help i think you could have disabled hardening teckan [21:12] lagann_ (i=hex@c-24-63-84-228.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:12] BP{k}: yes, but... you can "broke" contract :D [21:12] it means what it says [21:12] break or broke ? [21:12] =/ [21:12] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30C16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Connection timed out [21:13] "He broke it." or "I will break it." [21:13] Pig_Pen, i did not disable it. how can i solve it now? do i have to compile everything again? [21:13] or "He broke it. It is broken." [21:13] gar0t0: yes, you can break a contract, but usually that is going to cost you. [21:13] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Operation timed out [21:14] yup, you will have to rebuild most likely, unless it can be disabled at runtime [21:14] damn [21:14] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] BP{k}: yes... mercedez have much money for break contract :D [21:14] what about vbox user group in /etc/group [21:15] yo [21:15] good evening everyone [21:15] teckan: what's the problem you're having? [21:16] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:17] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:18] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] Guest51219 (n=miguelba@74.235.218.28) joined ##slackware. [21:18] BP{k}: comeone to Brazil watch the F1 on the next year :) [21:18] godling, i solved it by compiling it again. there is no problem again [21:18] gar0t0, és do brasil? [21:18] teckan: yes sir [21:19] gar0t0: hehe. Only if button is doing really well ;) [21:19] teckan: you don't saw my "poor" english ? [21:19] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:19] :D [21:20] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [21:20] misticidade! :D [21:20] (eu sou de portugal) [21:21] BP{k}: the next year bar is the winner :D [21:21] teckan: join on #slackware-br :) [21:21] gar0t0: nah. [21:22] BP{k}: bar is a better race driver actuality [21:23] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [21:23] gar0t0: tell you what, hop in ##formula1, that way we don't clog the channel up with offtopic stuff. [21:24] yoyoned1 (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [21:24] ok [21:24] :D [21:24] Alba[onga (n=alpha@93.45.116.134) left ##slackware. [21:25] grazymax (n=grazymax@79.13.156.125) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [21:28] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:29] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:29] weird [21:29] how can i pass argumetns to a slackbuild script? [21:29] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/virtualbox-ose/ [21:30] what is better [21:30] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:30] ext4 or ext3 [21:30] i did #/.virtualbox-ose.SlackBuild HARDENING=no and it still gives me the warning about it being compiled with hardening enabled. [21:30] :\ [21:31] set it first [21:31] edit it [21:31] HARDENING="no" ./virtualbox-ose.SlackBuild [21:32] Nick change: Guest51219 -> Kidpunkx\ [21:32] diogenes323 (n=diogenes@adsl-99-151-125-154.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:32] thrice`, thnks :) [21:32] frimer (i=frimer@szluug.org) got netsplit. [21:32] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) got netsplit. [21:32] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-110-135.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) got netsplit. [21:32] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) got netsplit. [21:33] gekki [21:33] hello [21:33] caixabox_ (n=Hrt@201.72.198.138) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:33] teckan, sure :) [21:33] whats better ext3 or ext4 [21:33] sorry, that's a bad question [21:33] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-110-135.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) returned to ##slackware. [21:33] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [21:33] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [21:33] frimer (i=frimer@szluug.org) returned to ##slackware. [21:34] i've moved the setpkg file from the root of the usb stick. what file do i alter to set its new position? [21:34] usb slackware install img, by the way [21:34] idiots! [21:34] Kidpunkx\, :( [21:35] ext3 is proven stable, ext4 has more performance [21:35] grazymax (n=grazymax@host182-130-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [21:35] Kidpunkx (n=miguelba@adsl-235-213-125.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:35] dd if=/path_to_iso/slackdvd13.iso of=/dev/sdb1 <--- shouldn't this make a bootable USB pen to make a full slack13 install? (/dev/sdb1 is my usb stick device) [21:35] (i tested it, and it doesnt) [21:35] filiberto thank you [21:35] i guess i want performance [21:35] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-229-112.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [21:35] Kidpunkx: asking what is better is only asking for opinions, I like the speed of ext4, but I have noted some stability issues; ext3 is slower but it has proven to be quite solid in my uses. [21:35] caixabox_ (n=Hrt@201.72.198.138) joined ##slackware. [21:36] teckan: thats for net install [21:36] no packages to install [21:36] and you need to point to the /dev/sdX [21:37] not /dev/sdX# [21:37] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "And Punt" [21:37] if i needed a slackish usb distro i would just use slax, (not perfect but gets the job done) [21:39] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:39] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:39] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:40] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30D30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [21:40] i still stick to reiserfs [21:41] teckan: long boot times, no selinux, better for small files; lousy with larger ones, murders your wife, etc. [21:41] teckan: I liked reiserfs, but after some disk failures I notes some problems with it, I hope that murderfs4 is more stable [21:41] murderfs xD [21:41] lame joke is lame [21:42] thrice`: I like that name better than the original [21:42] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] filiberto, murders his wife, not mine :P [21:43] Just got a new camera and it isn't recognized as a mountable device. :(. Do i need to setup something in hal to make it so? lsusb finds it as a device and if i do 'hal-device|grep Canon it is found. fdisk -l does not show the SD card though. [21:43] john_dee (n=id@95-29-12-148.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [21:43] gphoto2 [21:43] agentc0re: what kind of camera? not all cameras work as usb storage devices [21:44] and some cameras have that option hidden in the menus [21:44] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@94.159.152.59) joined ##slackware. [21:44] Canon powershot sx200. [21:45] agentc0re: go to the dir you want the files in and run gphoto2 -P to retrieve the file, to flush them from the camera run gphoto2 -D [21:45] agentc0re: use gphoto2 as Pig_Pen suggested [21:45] Ah, didn't realize that was part of slackware. :D [21:45] yes, i was also thinking that because of the whole gnome thing [21:46] same. i went to sbo to look for it. [21:46] i *think* its a gnome program, infering from its name [21:46] agentc0re: make sure to checkout gphoto2 --help for all options [21:46] olympus is good for usb storage [21:46] it's not [21:46] apoca_ (n=apoca@haydn.n2.nognu.de) joined ##slackware. [21:46] oh [21:46] ploppowaffles (n=anonymou@ip98-165-228-61.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:49] IrquiM (n=irquim@80.202.41.176) returned to ##slackware. [21:49] does "gphoto2 --autodetect" show anything good ? [21:49] agentc0re: the list of supported cameras is at http://gphoto.sourceforge.net/proj/libgphoto2/support.php [21:50] thrice`: just spews back the --help [21:50] agentc0re, did you check dmesg to see if udev has assigned it a device node? [21:51] There we go. [21:51] Turned it off and back on :D [21:52] agentc0re: I noticed that Canon PowerShot SX200 IS is supported, you just needed to give it a chance to start the communication with the computer [21:52] ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: SendQ exceeded [21:52] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:52] mfillpot: it is set to turn off after so long... that's what probably happened, i just didn't notice it right away. :D [21:53] user error, just like anything else. 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[22:07] define "this" [22:07] mrselfpw1 (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-qamnrsdgohzpvyry) joined ##slackware. [22:07] stybla (i=stybla@78.110.208.218) left irc: Connection reset by peer [22:07] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:07] heya,folks..how's all? [22:07] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-asqskueltqxcyujj) left irc: Killed by orwell.freenode.net (orwell.freenode.net (mrselfpwn[i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-asqskueltqxcyujj) [22:07] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@cm-84.209.88.122.getinternet.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:07] phoenix_ (n=phoenix@ip68-2-20-163.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] groovy gravy [22:07] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [22:08] frimer (i=frimer@szluug.org) got netsplit. [22:08] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) got netsplit. [22:08] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-110-135.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) got netsplit. [22:08] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) got netsplit. [22:08] i scrolled up and saw a large block of quits followed by a large block of joins [22:08] netsplit [22:08] MLanden: I am well, ty:) how are you? [22:08] yo MLanden [22:08] the irc server hickuped [22:08] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-110-135.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) returned to ##slackware. [22:08] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [22:08] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [22:08] frimer (i=frimer@szluug.org) returned to ##slackware. [22:09] doin' fine thanks hitest...you? [22:09] heya,mfillpot [22:09] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Excess Flood [22:09] jg71 (n=edud@76.74.129.199) joined ##slackware. [22:10] MLanden: I am very well, thanks! [22:10] mfillpot: Any damage from that storm that went through recently? [22:10] MLanden: that nor'easter sucked, it killed my video card [22:10] MLanden: how about yourself [22:11] just mud and mud and _______(fill the blanks)...lol [22:11] Kidpunkx\ (n=miguelba@74.235.218.28) joined ##slackware. [22:11] MLanden: so I take it you had some nice flooding in your area? [22:12] I finally got the new card yesterday, so I am gld to be back up [22:12] Kidpunkx (n=miguelba@adsl-235-218-28.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:14] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@cm-84.209.88.122.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [22:14] mfillpot: pretty much...but no structural damage thankfully...glad to hear,mfillpot..what kind? [22:15] MLanden: I go old school for compatibility, so I went with a Geforce 8400 GS [22:16] mfillpot: good choice [22:16] I stay away from bleeding and cutting edge because of the lack of compatibility and the lack of bug reports and fixes [22:17] lol....go for the power over the glory...:D [22:17] because of that outage I am already thinking of my next system, I want the entire thing to be fanless, low power usage and of course low sound output [22:18] Yeah me too, I want infinite power and no noise [22:18] mfillpot: how small? [22:18] My solution was... [22:18] put it in the garage [22:18] I was lucky enough to find the 8400 GS as a fanless card [22:18] MLanden: I am only looking for enough to run my hardware, no excess is needed [22:19] teckan (n=teckan@p5499C310.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:19] the most noise from my current system is from the fan in the PSU, it is hard to find a PSU that gives 650W+ without a fan [22:20] pc power and cooling. [22:20] they have one [22:20] http://www.pcpower.com/products/description/Silencer_750_Quad-Blue_/index.html [22:21] it's not fanless but they are quiet [22:21] grazymax (n=grazymax@host109-159-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [22:21] antiwire: and were is the price on the page? [22:21] it's hidden so you don't poop a brick [22:21] I am using an Antec TruePower 650W right now [22:22] phoenix_ (n=phoenix@ip68-2-20-163.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:22] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-174-54-144-240.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:23] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:23] pattwo (n=pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [22:23] pattwo (n=pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:24] grazymax (n=grazymax@host31-106-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [22:24] pattwo (n=pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [22:26] caixabox_ (n=Hrt@201.72.198.138) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:26] antiwire: the 20-40dB still means that it can get pretty loud, I think mine is 30-60 [22:27] That's why you get one which has higher capacity than you'll ever need so that the unit never reaches max fan speed conditions [22:28] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-67-146.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [22:28] there's not the gpg key in the slackware-12.1 ftp mirror of brasil! [22:29] antiwire: it would probably help if I dropped all of my HDs and just got a single large capacity one, but I like having mutliples for speed and redundancy [22:29] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [22:30] mfillpot: you could just migrate over to two large disks setup in linux raid1 [22:30] two modern disks will be quieter than a bunch of older disks too [22:30] dissociative: I am seeing it is 13 and slackware64-13 [22:31] antiwire: the disks are quiet, except for hte one with windows, the concern is the power usage [22:31] mfillpot: is it just storage space? [22:31] two new, 5400RPM disks will give you the added space + lower power consumption and noise volumes [22:31] I have slackware 12.1 and I'm trying to upgrade openssl with slackpkg from the ftp mirror of brasil [22:32] antiwire: I use one for the boot partition and windows, the next disk hold the primary partitions for all OSs, the third is the home directories and shared space [22:32] but there's not gpg-key in the 12.1 tree [22:32] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "flw pessoal :)" [22:32] phoenix89 (n=phoenix@ip68-2-20-163.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Success [22:32] there seems to be in other mirrors [22:32] dissociative: I see that now, it looks like their sync was incomplete [22:32] since how many time then... [22:33] dissociative: if the ping speed is adequate I would recommend trying the tds mirror in the USA [22:33] also there's booting.txt missing and others probably [22:34] dissociative, GPG-KEY should be there. maybe the mirror is cracked [22:35] antiwire: I settled on seperated the read/write functions into groups to increase speed and reduce lag, Os, apps, boot and user files [22:35] is slackpkg hardoded to re-dl pat's public key from the mirror being used? this doesn't make sense [22:36] or do you mean openssl's .asc ? [22:36] diogenes323 (n=diogenes@adsl-99-151-125-154.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:36] mfillpot: what are you talking about? [22:36] no, the key isnt in the brasil mirror [22:37] so what? [22:37] antiwire: I am talking about the way that I use separate hard disks [22:37] who wants to download a collection of corny rockabilly music from the 1940s thru the 1960's (free mp3 files) [22:37] mmm I am customed to it because its the closest [22:37] the whole point of using gpg is that you have a pubkey you trust already on your system. dl'ing the "key" from the repositories is braindead [22:38] mfillpot: what exactly did you do? [22:38] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-76-167-123-206.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:38] "seperated the read/write functions into groups to increase speed" <--what? [22:38] but i have no idea how slackpkg does its thingso i am not sure i grok ya solder. [22:39] antiwire: the data is seperated so that instead of a single disk head moving back and forth for so many files I have spread the work among multiple disks [22:39] Pig_Pen: pass...though I do listen to the occasional Cramps and Mojo Nixon..:P [22:40] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:40] Pig_Pen: How corny? [22:40] http://hasilatemyjerky.mypodcast.com/ safe for work, large collection of the corny and weird [22:40] yo, wth happened to kernel.org? [22:40] filiberto (n=asd@190.142.148.231) joined ##slackware. [22:41] ? [22:41] off-line? [22:41] it is online [22:41] online but 80% of the useful info is zapped [22:41] thanks,Pig_Pen [22:41] they are free mp3 file, listen to one [22:41] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:41] how do i get iwconfig on the installation? [22:41] they have been working on kernel.org for weeks [22:42] instal wireless-toll [22:42] filiberto: iwconfig comes with Slackware. [22:42] tools [22:42] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] i meant in the actual installation program, in order to use network mirrors [22:42] lemme try again, install wireless-tolls [22:42] fuck! [22:42] filiberto: installer does not support wireless [22:42] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:43] antiwire: i can switch to a vc and set it up if i got the wireless-tools package installed in the live system [22:43] initself (n=initself@ip68-4-25-125.pv.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] Oh hey maybe my last message was lost to the ether, the installer does not support wireless [22:43] lol [22:43] vc=virtual console [22:44] filiberto: you could always install wicd to simplify the wireless setup [22:44] sigh [22:44] antiwire: are you saying that the iso cant be remade to include arbitrary packages [22:45] antiwire: because thats what wireless-tools is. a package [22:45] filiberto: That's not what you asked. [22:45] And I also did not say that. [22:45] again, you did not ask about rebuilding the iso and installer initrd and I did not say it was impossible. [22:45] 4 lines ago dude [22:45] i can switch to a vc and set it up if i got the wireless-tools package installed in the live system [22:45] switching to a VT is not rebuilding the installer initrd and iso [22:45] .... [22:46] ok let me quote the relevant for ya [22:46] i got the wireless-tools package installed in the live system [22:46] actually, let me ignore the troll and wait for competent people to talk [22:48] I'm trying to figure out how to upgrade openssl with slackpkg [22:48] I'm only getting the older version [22:49] dissociative: did you run a slackpkg update? [22:49] filiberto: check out alienbob's wireless setup guide .. http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [22:50] mfillpot: i meant in the actual installation program, in order to use network mirrors [22:50] mfillpot: that is regarding wireless setup in an installed system. Not during the install. [22:50] yes [22:50] filiberto: You think I'm trolling? Have you looked to see which wireless drivers the installer's kernel supports? [22:50] I try slackpkg download openssl and I only got openssl-0.9.8h [22:50] because..there are none... [22:50] and blah [22:51] filiberto: ok,. now I get it, that is something that I haven't even thought about doing [22:51] im thinking the simplest aproach would be to install it to the live system [22:52] can pkgtool work this way (install a package to the ram system)? [22:52] i tried to but it printed a warning about there being no partitions mounted [22:52] dude. [22:53] you can install the wireless-tools all you want but there are no wireless drivers in the installer's kernel. [22:53] thats the least problematic thing [22:53] and youre also discounting ndiswrapper [22:53] oh really? and you're asking how to use pkgtools [22:53] i give up [22:53] lol this dude is a schizo [22:53] I prefer 'pragmatic' [22:54] try 'anal troll, bound to be ignored' [22:54] filiberto: do you plan to use this installer method with mutliple systems of only a single one? [22:54] mfillpot: a single system [22:54] I did slackpkg update again after switching from a mirror and now it works [22:55] filiberto: what kind of a chipset does that wireless card use? [22:55] mfillpot: its in the slackware kernel (*.30?) [22:55] i cam just change vmlinuz (hugesmp.s) [22:55] can* [22:56] filiberto: is it an atheros based card? [22:56] mfillpot: its realtek, staging driver [22:56] dissociative: ok... [22:56] been inkernel since .29 or something [22:56] dissociative: a good thing, i guess [22:56] i think the best would be to use the A iso and go from there [22:57] errr, i mean the cd 1 iso [22:57] filiberto: the staging drivers are quite flaky, if I were you I would stick with a hardwired network connection for the install to save you time. My experience with staging drivers has shown that you are better off using ndiswrapper. [22:58] yea im using ndis in debian atm [22:58] pattwo (n=pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:58] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.93.155) joined ##slackware. [22:59] filiberto: I think the best person to talk to about this would be alienBOB , if he is around he may be able to help you. [22:59] alright thanks :D [23:00] im guessing cd1 has wireless-tools, right? [23:00] I always try to help, even if the best I can do is to refer you to someone else [23:00] grazymax (n=grazymax@host31-106-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:01] fraktil (n=fraktil@pool-96-248-227-5.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:02] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: "Leaving." [23:06] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.81.131) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:08] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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[23:13] i do full install because it takes 20 minutes and i can listen to music while i remove stuff [23:13] mfillpot: cool...good to hear that it was recoverable [23:14] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] alright, wireless-tools is in cd1 [23:14] linuxquestin: i dont use kde though :) [23:14] MLanden: it helps that I have a good surge protector, the vid surge was internal as a result of the bios [23:14] linuxquestin: i only want A [23:14] lol ok [23:15] you might want n [23:15] that too [23:15] and l [23:15] pattwo (n=pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:15] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:15] and ap [23:15] and d [23:15] once I found a good soundfont, qsynth is cool. [23:15] and k [23:15] get it? [23:16] procyonlabs (n=randy@pool-71-179-252-191.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:16] mfillpot: true [23:17] theres a lot more than kde... [23:17] x and xap [23:17] kde is only kde and kdei [23:18] damn [23:18] mikkel kessler lost [23:18] im going to use dwm [23:18] damn denmar [23:18] k [23:18] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.81.131) joined ##slackware. [23:18] after i setup a self sufficient cli system [23:18] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [23:19] nositelicense_ (n=quassel@cpe-76-167-123-206.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:19] in general, unless you know exactly what you're removing and why, keep most things in the base distro. [23:21] fiyawerx (i=fiyawerx@174.54.144.240) left irc: [23:25] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:27] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-67-146.epm.net.co) left irc: "leaving" [23:28] glarb (i=1000@c-68-42-189-210.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:40] No filesystem could not mount root, tried: romfs [23:41] Kidpunkx\: bad instructions in the bootloader or kernel image [23:41] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:42] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [23:42] mfillpot how can i fix it [23:42] Kidpunkx\: are you using a custom kernel or did you modify the bootloader yourself? [23:43] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [23:44] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [23:44] john_dee (n=id@95-29-12-148.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [23:44] mfillpot I just reenable HT but I tihnk i messed up on the /boot/vmzlinuz [23:45] Kidpunkx\: did you install your own kernel, or are you using a stock kernel? [23:46] stock kernel [23:46] Kidpunkx\: so then why do you think you messed up vmlinuz? [23:46] but i've renamed it differently on /linux/renamekernel [23:46] and /old kernel [23:47] I'm not sure do ytou want a pastebin [23:47] john_dee (n=id@95-29-12-148.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [23:47] Kidpunkx\: please post a pastebin to explain the changes in the boot directory [23:48] /boot/ntldr.exe ;) [23:48] lol [23:49] lol [23:50] BP{k}thats windows its /boot/vmlinuz [23:50] Kidpunkx\: really .. no shit sugar!! [23:50] Kidpunkx\: BP{k} is just testing you [23:50] haha [23:50] lol [23:51] i always seem to show up for the punch line [23:51] Scuzz: good timing...:D [23:51] sugar [23:51] hahaha [23:51] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.167) joined ##slackware. [23:51] damn it [23:51] lol [23:51] jesus [23:51] lol [23:52] how can i pastebin if i cant boot up [23:52] my old kernel is just pathetic it hangs on loading fuse modules [23:52] and new kernel is having a panic attack [23:52] lol [23:52] Kidpunkx\: boot install a live cd to get the data and pastebin from there [23:52] mfillpot good job [23:53] Kidpunkx\: * boot into, not boot install [23:54] jesus [23:54] Kidpunkx\, are you following a good howto on kernel rebuilding ? [23:55] Some people really should read this file on boot: ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current/isolinux/message.txt [23:55] crtl alt del dont work when its a kernel panic [23:55] nositelicense_ (n=quassel@cpe-76-167-123-206.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:56] Kidpunkx\: of course it doesn't the kernel and all instructions are dead [23:56] yeah i was following a good how to on enabling HT I jus ttihnk i messed up somewhere i will post my pastebin [23:56] Kidpunkx\: HT in enabled in bios, I don't think you have to do anything in the kernel [23:56] yeah you have too [23:57] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:58] I haven't used intel in so long that I don't really remember [23:58] Kidpunkx\: what guide did yuo use to compile your kernel? [00:00] --- Sun Nov 22 2009