[00:00] that sucks [00:00] Nick change: dtzWill -> wdtz [00:00] Action: MrHales weeps over unrequited storage space. [00:01] I did a sleep to disk this afternoon. now when I log in as that user, keymapping has changed: m->0, 0->/, (don't know what else yet) [00:01] twolf_ (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [00:01] amarok only takes 200 mb of memory :-O [00:01] i->5 [00:02] xmms only takes 10mb.... [00:02] 8mb* [00:02] wdtz (n=will@99-4-167-164.lightspeed.caryil.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:02] dtzWill (n=will@99.4.167.164) joined ##slackware. [00:03] lol [00:03] wow, xmms is back huh ? [00:03] also, i want: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/8396/ [00:03] no, fhobia, i jsut like it best [00:03] i use winamp on windows too [00:04] everything else has too much bloat imo [00:04] i remember it was removed once from slack [00:04] and audacious freezes up on me a lot [00:04] D: [00:04] 8) it seems audacious takes about double the resources [00:04] of xmms [00:05] i have the resources to run it, but aud. just doesnt like my ocmputer for some reason [00:05] computer* [00:05] if i try to add my entire music folder to the playlist, it freezes [00:06] dtzWill (n=will@99.4.167.164) left irc: Client Quit [00:06] wdtz (n=will@99-4-167-164.lightspeed.caryil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:07] but then xmms cant seem to play internet radio, so i have to switch to audacious to play radio lol [00:08] I had problems with my playlist in the last version of Amarok. It would occasionally choke on 1600+ songs. [00:09] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [00:09] More elegant solution in new Amarok: Dynamic Playlists. [00:10] holy crap someone used 'elegant' and 'Amarok' in the same sentence? [00:10] lol [00:10] heh [00:10] amarok 2.1.80 is nice [00:11] not sure what to do with the central pane though [00:11] Well, if you don't like it, remove it. [00:12] spectre (n=kyle@pool-173-54-180-31.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [00:12] ah, how do you do that ? [00:12] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:13] In amarok settings, there's a checkbox to lock how it's set up, uncheck that, apply, click the x for the center panel, go back to settings and lock it again. [00:13] Nick change: twolf_ -> twolf [00:14] oh, there was an option for "hide context view" [00:14] didn't find the locking options though [00:14] but cool ! [00:16] MrHales (n=MrHales@12.24.239.145) left irc: "Have you ever wondered if your quit message actually works? I mean, it's not like you're around to..." [00:17] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:18] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.48) joined ##slackware. [00:20] whats that command line mp3 player that is pretty popular ? [00:20] fhobia: mplayer [00:20] it was something else... [00:20] ffmpeg? [00:20] mpg321 [00:21] fhobia: define popular [00:21] lol, popular as in i saw it once [00:21] lol [00:21] right, because we'd know about that :P [00:21] deco: it's a command line mp3 player, so in this case, popular measn 12 people use it :P [00:21] it was some kind of server that you could attach to [00:21] means* [00:22] fhobia: mpd [00:22] yeah !!! [00:22] that was it [00:22] fhobia: that's a deamon , you need a client [00:23] fhobia: sonata etc... [00:24] Was Apple the one who first created the task switching method where you get a tiled view of all running apps and you can click on the one you want? If not anyone know who did it first? [00:24] Wescotte: my cat :) [00:25] deco: Your cat is a hack! [00:25] madnex (n=madnex@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: "Leaving" [00:25] Wescotte: that's what they all say [00:25] deco: so no idea eh? [00:26] Wescotte: my cat invinted it on a caterday [00:26] deco: did it also invent caterday? or did you do that one? :) [00:26] Wow, that was original. [00:26] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@c-67-171-67-171.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:27] Wescotte: no that was the internet [00:27] deco: the internet can't invent things though. [00:28] Wescotte: I thought it was the amiga [00:28] Wescotte: maybe smalltalk could do that, I dunno [00:28] alisonken1noc: you know Amiga had it or they pioneered it? [00:28] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:29] I'm pretty sure they had it, but I can't say for sure if they invented it. been a loooong while since those days [00:29] did parc ever market that paradigm? I surely don't remember [00:30] alisonken1noc: That's good enough for me. Buddy of mine was saying Apple invented it and I was pretty damn sure I've seen it before but wasn't sure who actually did it. [00:30] whats the program that replaces "kcontrol" or whatever for kde settings ? [00:30] fhobia: system settings [00:30] alisonken1noc: although Apple could have still invented it way before OSX.. [00:30] deco: any idea what the name of the binary is ? [00:30] Xerox Parc invited Steve and Bill; those two took from Parc and made their guis [00:30] Action: Wescotte needs to find a better word for "invent" in those cases [00:31] Wescotte: possible - amiga and mac were pretty much close to being the same timeframe [00:31] fhobia: click on kickoff and it's right there under faviorites [00:32] favorites* [00:32] alisonken1noc: I never used an Amiga but everything I hear about it seems to be good things about how they were far ahead of their time [00:32] guess i'll have to load up kde :-P [00:32] they were - 3 cpu's, multitasking, and a bunch of others [00:32] they had separate cpu's for i/o, graphics, and number crunching [00:33] fhobia: just run systemsettings [00:33] killer games platform at the time [00:33] deco: oh, nice, figured it HAD to have a k in front of it :-) [00:33] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:33] fhobia: old habits :P [00:33] ugh, now my Alt+F2 in kde brings up xfce's run dialog. :/ [00:33] fire|bird: lol [00:34] So, I need to find where it sets that and switch it back to krunner. [00:35] fire|bird: kde is telling you to switch to xfce :P [00:36] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-16-37.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:36] heh [00:36] There must be a fix for this. [00:39] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [00:39] Nick change: Quiznos -> PurpleSmurf [00:40] Nick change: deco -> Quiznos [00:40] If I right click the desktop and hit run, it brings up the right one. [00:41] Nick change: Quiznos -> Guest82441 [00:41] hahaha [00:41] damn [00:41] good work Guest82441 [00:41] fire|bird: not funny [00:41] I thought it was [00:41] now switch back [00:41] Nick change: fire|bird -> deco [00:41] :O [00:41] :O [00:41] hey deco [00:42] haha [00:42] Nick change: deco -> fire|bird [00:42] man, it sucks being you. [00:42] fire|bird: yeah i know :/ i think the same [00:43] i want to be as cool as fire|bird [00:43] forgot i had all this mod music [00:43] Nick change: Guest82441 -> deco [00:43] yay \o/ [00:44] deco: Oh no, you're back. :P [00:45] fire|bird: unfortunately yes ;P [00:46] good night everybody, see ya fire|bird [00:46] deco (n=deco@69.108.88.254) left irc: "leaving" [00:46] nn [00:47] and just like that, he's gone. :P [00:47] so in my latest cs lab/project thing, i have to have an array of structs, and I have to use pointers to do everything, and i can't use any square brackets [00:47] deco is kaiser soze! [00:47] fun [00:47] pointers are interesting [00:47] yeah [00:47] does perl have pointers? [00:47] unfortunately, I haven't had the pleasure of workign with c yet [00:47] Now to figure out this run dialog box issue, this is annoying. :/ [00:48] source code for the perl interpreter does, I believe [00:48] does python have pointers? [00:48] not the same as c does [00:48] ah [00:48] but python has hooks for loading c shared libraries [00:48] iyeah [00:49] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:51] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-4579afa2.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [00:52] http://eulogy.sixbit.org/vnc.png anyone have this problem with their panels using vnc ? [00:53] i tried using a higher depth but vnc wont even run when i try a higher depth than 24 [00:53] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-21-81.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:53] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [00:54] Reticenti: python is a bit higher level than C or C++ [00:55] godling: yeah, i know :P [00:55] was just curious if python had pointers [00:55] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@c-67-171-67-171.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:55] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: ""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."" [00:55] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left ##slackware (" ERC Version 5.3 (devel) IRC Client for Emacs"). [00:56] a high level language has no concept of things liek memory addresses, so why would it have pointers? [00:56] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:56] python describes pointers - but not the same pointers as c does [00:57] Zexan (n=me@unaffiliated/zexan) left irc: [00:58] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [00:59] alisonken1noc: I know you can manipulate pointers and stuff with ctypes [01:00] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:00] :) [01:00] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:00] Well, not sure why, but a restart of the pc fixed the run dialog box issue. \o/ [01:00] he was asking about python and poiners [01:00] yes, ctypes in python [01:01] cmair (n=cmair@host231-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:01] what's a good font viewer? [01:01] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [01:01] xfontsel [01:01] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [01:01] alisonken1noc: http://www.python.org/doc/2.5.2/lib/ctypes-pointers.html [01:01] alisonken1noc: do you mean something else? [01:02] godling: nope - that works for me [01:02] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [01:02] lee__ (n=_lee__@ip70-191-236-69.pn.at.cox.net) left ##slackware. [01:02] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:03] at any rate, Reticenti, python is a great and fun language. you should learn it. [01:03] anybosy else get many wpa_supplicant wrrors on boot in 13 ? [01:03] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:03] Reticenti: fontmatrix [01:03] godling: yeah, i want to, but i want to finish my C++ cs classes first [01:03] thanks neonflux [01:03] packeteer: Can you be more specific? [01:03] np [01:03] failed to connect to wpa_supplicant <- about 50 of those on boot [01:04] Reticenti: it won't interfere, it might even help with the C++ [01:04] if you use vim you can use inline python to prototype and such [01:04] it's what I do :D [01:04] packeteer: I've never got that error, but it's some type of connection problem. [01:04] Maybe something not set right in your wpa_supplicant? [01:04] godling: what do you mean? [01:05] Reticenti: do you use vim? [01:05] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:05] the only thing i can see in logs that might be related is this: WPA authentication did not complete, try running '/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 wlan0_start' in a few seconds. [01:05] godling: yeah [01:05] Reticenti: type :help python inside vim [01:05] packeteer: Does running that allow you to connect? [01:05] Reticenti: you can type out some python in the buffer, then highlight it and do the command and the python interpreter will execute that code [01:05] fire|bird: it does work [01:05] Reticenti: so if you have like 10 get/set methods to do you can automate it [01:06] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:06] godling: ahah, thats cool [01:06] packeteer: Without running that? [01:06] Reticenti: I did that when I took my mips assembler class [01:06] 'cause mips is painful :P [01:07] fire|bird: yeah, seems to work ok [01:07] godling: the only thing i have trouble with is learning a language by reading only, it really helps me to do "labs" of what i learned that week to really get it, and I just dont really have the time to do taht with c_++ and python right now [01:07] + other classes, + work [01:08] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:08] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:09] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:09] obnauticus (n=l@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:10] Reticenti: is C++ your first programming language? [01:10] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:10] godling: yeah [01:11] godling: i've tried to learn perl and python on my own, but i would usually stop once i hit loops [01:11] Reticenti: as you continue you'll find that particular groups of languages have very similar control structures and data types [01:11] godling: yeah, I know that c and python are really similar [01:12] and i'm only in my second semester of programming [01:12] you should try to teach yourself a functional programming language [01:12] it will wrinkle your brain for sure [01:13] functional? as in functions? [01:13] that's all i've learned so far.. :3 [01:13] first semester of cs was basically C [01:13] loops, arrays, functions [01:14] second semester we start classes, but fist do structs [01:14] and pointers [01:14] first* [01:17] i'm writing a script and I need to use awk to cut off .tar.gz because i want to cd into the directory that gets created when I untar it. how wouold i go about that? [01:18] maybe i dont need awk [01:18] bash can do that. [01:18] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:19] how? [01:19] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:19] foo=bar.tar.gz \n echo ${foo%%.*} [01:20] what do the % do? [01:20] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [01:21] Reticenti: google bash variable mangling [01:21] mk [01:21] basically regex [01:21] %% matches the pattern (.* and cuts of the longest part) [01:21] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-105-63-83-200.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:21] Reticinti: foo=bar.tar.gz | echo $foo | awk -F '.' '{print $1}' [01:21] ahhh [01:22] cmair (n=cmair@host231-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:23] hello all [01:23] does "cd echo $foo" work? [01:23] or [01:23] wait [01:23] nvm, im dumb [01:24] print $1 is equal to bar; print $2 is equal to tar; print $3 is equal to gz [01:24] I guess you could say that functional programming is like a math equation [01:24] s/like/like writing/ [01:25] godling: all I've done is functional programming [01:25] functional programming isn't the same thing as functions [01:25] oh [01:29] can I delete /dev/hda2 and adapt it to /dev/root [01:29] ? [01:29] BP{k}: when I do that foo%%.* thing, it puts an = in front of it? [01:30] I'm trying to this: $bar=${1%%.*} [01:30] cd $bar [01:30] TheKid (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:31] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [01:31] that would be "bar=${1%%.*}" [01:31] oh [01:32] $FOO="value" isn't bash. :) [01:32] now it doesnt cd to $bar [01:33] what is it exactly you expect it to do? [01:33] i want to be in $bar when the script ends [01:33] in terminal [01:33] uhm .. that's never gonna work :) [01:33] oh [01:34] unfortunately, it's not safe to assume that the name of the tarball is the same name as the directory that's going to be created [01:34] ah [01:34] it's a script to make sbo's easier [01:35] did you have a look at sbopkg [01:35] Reticenti: "sbopkg" [01:35] alisonken1noc: damn you. ;) [01:35] is that included with slack ? [01:35] fhobia: no - sbopkg.org [01:36] wget $1 && wget $2 && tar xvf $1 && cd ${1%%.*) && ./${1%%.*}.slackbuild [01:36] is absically what i'm trying to do [01:36] Reticenti: the .slackbuild at the end indicates it's a file [01:36] at least by convention [01:36] yeah, i'm trying to make getting/installing slackbuilds easier [01:37] what is wget $! and wget $2 doing? [01:37] downloading the slackbuild tar, and the source from slackbuild.org [01:37] that's just plain silly. [01:37] why? [01:37] because i say so. [01:37] it's what i've been doing so far [01:37] EYOLs (n=EYOLs@cpe-024-167-133-032.triad.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:38] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [01:38] 1) download the slackbuild. 2) extract 3) source the *.info file 4) download the source 5) compare the md5sum 6) run the slackbuild [01:38] EYOLs (n=EYOLs@24.167.133.32) joined ##slackware. [01:38] why do you think we even have an info file .. just for laughs? [01:38] vinnie_ (n=vinnie_@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [01:38] everything I've donw so far works without having to look at the info file :\ [01:39] s/donw/done [01:39] Reticenti: the way the .info file is build, makes it very easy to work with .. on sourcing it .. everything becomes a variable [01:40] ah, yeah, i see your point [01:40] i know nothing about scripting, so this is all new to me [01:40] source *.info && if [ $ARCH = "x86_64 ]; then wget -c $DOWNLOAD_x86_64 ; else wget -c $DOWNLOAD ; fi [01:41] or something like that ;) [01:42] trying to decipher that... [01:42] source = userinput of the source file? [01:42] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:42] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:42] no it's a bash command :) [01:42] oh [01:42] "help source" ;) [01:43] how does it know where $ARCH is? [01:43] $ARCH is a avariable that's set when you execute "ARCH=" [01:43] moh2a (n=mohaa@89.16.15.141) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:43] look at the .info file [01:44] bash variable [01:44] well if you want to compile things as 64bit on slackware64, you should set the variable ARCH=x86_64 in your startup files. So if that variable is not set ... it just downloads the 32bit sourcecode [01:44] oh [01:44] (note that if-then-else is *not* perfect) [01:44] so $ARCH is essentially a system wide variable? [01:45] Reticenti: [01:45] spook [01:45] L2 bash [01:45] unless you "export ARCH=.." it's a local variable [01:45] :| [01:45] spook: this is my first bash script, so be nice :\ [01:46] Reticenti: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html [01:46] Reticenti: optionally http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ [01:47] Reticenti: also http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ and http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls and http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide (and there is #bash) [01:48] happy reading [01:48] also I can recommend "O'Reilly - Learning the Bash shell" as hardcopy. [01:49] I believe you can also get that one as a pdf for those portable laptop days [01:49] or desktop reference [01:50] heh [01:51] todo list: read slackbook, read bash guides, learn awk, learn sed, work, read my book a week for class, write my c++ program for cs, spend time with wife [01:51] ah sod the wife. concentrate on whats important. ;) [01:52] + write my paper per week for class [01:52] :P [01:52] cs homework is already killing me [01:52] so tl;dr: dont expect me to read the bash guide anytime soon [01:52] lol [01:52] sod = ? :-) [01:53] fhobia: just look at the context :) [01:53] 8-) [01:53] i did my bash script the low tech newbie way [01:53] vukovar (n=vukovar@CPE-121-220-83-97.lnse2.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [01:53] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [01:53] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:55] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [01:55] google?? :P [01:55] Rat409: google.com irrc [01:55] lol [01:55] +D [01:55] =D [01:56] neonflux (n=mrjones@209.19.58.106) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:56] been there, did that lol [01:56] and my script doesnt work lol [01:56] oh well [01:57] wget -c http://sbopkg.googlecode.com/files/sbopkg-0.30.1-noarch-1_cng.tgz && installpkg sbopkg-0.30.1-noarch-1_cng [01:57] whats that>? [01:57] :P [01:57] sbopkg. [01:57] supergear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:58] oh [01:58] nice [01:58] BP{k}: script for automating d/l of slackbuilds from slackbuilds.org as well as compile/make packages [01:58] night [01:58] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [01:58] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [01:58] chess has been working on it for over a year [01:58] (with some help from some of us) [01:59] alisonken1noc: yes I know what sbopkg is ;) [01:59] is it fairly stable? [01:59] yes [01:59] woo [01:59] it works great actually. [01:59] BP{k}: telling Reticenti [01:59] BP{k}: sorry :) [01:59] wrong click [01:59] hehe, no worries. :) [02:00] Reticenti: a lot of us use it for slackware and slackwre64 and slamd64 setups [02:00] ah [02:00] see, this is what i wanted lol [02:01] have you looked at sbopkg.org website yet? [02:01] [05:35] ( alisonken1noc) did you have a look at sbopkg [02:01] well, yes [02:01] i did see that [02:01] BP{k}: in what context? I've helped him with several problems not too long ago [02:01] but see,, I'm slightly stupid :P [02:02] alisonken1noc: yeah, i ust saw it [02:02] just* [02:02] alisonken1noc: thats when sbopkg was mentioned when he was telling us what he was writing his script for. ie the solution was presented 25 minutes or so ago :) [02:02] :) [02:02] :) [02:03] :) [02:03] 23:00:44 < Reticenti> but see,, I'm slightly stupid :P [02:03] lol [02:03] no further questions your honour ;) [02:03] indeed [02:05] i finally just embraced slackpkg :-P [02:05] Action: fhobia is scared of change [02:06] fhobia has a phobia? crazy [02:06] fhobia: if I can do it .. so can you. ;) [02:06] 8) cool, i will have to try it [02:08] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:08] Action: fhobia is enjoying mpd + ncmpcpp [02:09] the clock is nice if you enable at buildtime [02:09] ncmpcpp [02:09] inman (n=root@p579B5616.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:10] oh, shows the current time ? [02:10] sbopkg is pretty slick [02:10] fhobia: yuh easily read too [02:10] large numbers [02:10] cool, thanks for the tip [02:10] sure [02:11] whats the easiest way to remove packages I've installed with slackbuilds? [02:11] supergear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:11] i just use pkgtool or removepkg [02:11] slackpkg can do it [02:11] most often removepkg since the pkgtool list is kind've long [02:11] many ways [02:12] do slackpkg --help [02:12] could just rm the files in /var/log/packages/packname i guess [02:12] also, i installed some stuff, and it's dependencies, how do i check it's dependencies? [02:12] has an option to restore to default pkgsets [02:12] yuh its linux,always several ways [02:12] Reticenti: using your brain [02:12] Reticenti: after they've been installed, it's just using the standard slackware pacakge tools like removepkg or pkgtool [02:13] yeah, i mostly use brain for dependencies [02:13] or reading [02:13] ok [02:13] or ldd if it gets bad as someone else said [02:13] ldd /path/to/package ? [02:13] usually when i search on slackbuilds though, the results hint to you what is going to be needed [02:13] yeah [02:13] thats generally what i go on [02:14] or when i run the binary, it will spit out a complaint [02:15] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD887C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:15] Reticenti: for sbo slackbuilds, we write down dependencies in the README [02:15] morning [02:15] http://www.sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2009-09-21.gif [02:15] oh yeah, thanks BP{k} [02:16] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD887C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:18] i think the only gui based apps i use now are firefox, eclipse, and gimp [02:18] Action: fhobia always ends up using the console apps somehow [02:18] more responsive feel i guess [02:19] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:19] feels weird to exit the mpd client yet still hear the music playing [02:19] haha [02:22] Action: alisonken1noc is still waiting for kvirc to finish kde4 port so I can get it on the upgraded systems [02:26] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [02:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.16.225) joined ##slackware. [02:29] Steponit (n=chad@c-71-205-55-118.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:30] Rat409: :-) the clock screen is nice [02:30] yes,i like it also [02:30] What is so nice about the clock screen? [02:31] it fills me with joy for some reason [02:31] dual-function,and,it looks nice? [02:31] fhobia: indeed! lol [02:33] Im installing slackware on Virtualbox right now so maybe I will take a good look at the clock screen later lol. [02:33] 8) [02:33] clock screen? [02:34] ncmpcpp [02:34] digital-clock option if enables at compiling [02:35] aha [02:37] guess i'll try ncmpc to see if its different [02:38] anyone use a specific encoding other than the default when connecting with vncviewer ? [02:40] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:41] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.45.115) joined ##slackware. [02:42] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.16.225) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:42] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:42] i guess 8k vs 2k memory usage hahaha [02:43] phoenix^_ (n=fire|bir@173-18-63-179.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [02:43] phoenix^_ (n=fire|bir@173-18-63-179.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:46] Steponit (n=chad@c-71-205-55-118.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [02:50] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-llhqqquiyfnyvzim) joined ##slackware. [02:50] guess i'll stock with cpp ...i like the media library thing [02:51] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-226.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:52] morning everyone, can i simply drag an updated txz (for example firefox 3.5.2) to my local slackware directory for future installation, or do i need to mod filelist.txt and/or some other files? thanx [02:52] you just need to do upgradepkg on the txz and nothing else [02:54] filelist.txt? [02:54] i believes thats like all the files the distro installs [02:54] y0 slackytude [02:55] y0 fire|bird, hows it going? [02:55] slackytude: excellent, just messing around with xfce. you? [02:56] @fhobia, i mean for future installations, rather than upgrading current system, or is that wot u meant? [02:57] mkeil (i=marcel@juniper.main.us-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:58] rogersman: i don't know what you mean by future installations, but i don't think you ever need to bother with filelist.txt [02:59] fhobia: No, you don't bother with that. Also, things like firefox are on all the slack mirrors to easily get. [03:00] slackware 13 - gots firefox 3.5.2 ... i want future intallations to include 3.5.3 (for ex) can i just drag the new txz in /slackware directory? sorry for not being clearer :-p [03:00] slack 13 has 3.5.3 [03:01] fire|bird: trying to avoid work [03:01] slackytude: haha, and how's that going? :P [03:02] rogersman: you don't install stuff by putting the .txz file into some directory [03:02] fire|bird: good till now. noone called yet [03:02] rogersman, am I understanding you correctly in thinking that you want to keep a local mirror with -current so you can burn it to dvd with the latest updates and use it to install whenever you might need to reinstall or do a new installation? [03:02] aye! [03:02] acutally install over nfs [03:02] oh, i misunderstood completely :-) [03:03] sorry, need my coffee! [03:03] just use alienBOB's mirror script, it'll even burn to dvd/cd for you :) [03:03] or you can tell it not to burn [03:03] well, i'de like to learn to do it myself :-) [03:03] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh [03:03] or you can write your own rsync script and toss it in cron [03:03] however you want to do it [03:04] hey bolide [03:04] ill have a look at the script tho...im sure theres clues there...cheers [03:04] heya fire|bird [03:05] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:05] rogersman, what I've done is write my own script that checks the changelog against the changelog that I already have.. if they dont match, rsync.. if they do match, stop processing.. works really well :) [03:05] speaking of, I haven't put it back in cron since I installed 13.. whoops. [03:05] sounds perfect..got a link for ur script? [03:08] it's not public, it does stuff specific for my machines also (ie: sends myself an email and tells KDE to pop up a dialog informing me of the changes) .. but it's not hard to bash out [03:08] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.39.200) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:09] I just use a small lftp script to sync with one of the official mirrors for security updates, it's even simpler than comparing the changelogs, in my opinion [03:09] blackorca, md5sum takes care of the 'comparing' :) [03:10] true [03:10] there a bunch of ways to do it lol [03:10] yeah, that was just the easiest imo [03:10] might be worth a how-to on slackware install bolide? its a nice idea...save bandwidth too [03:11] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [03:11] im still a bit of a white belt when it comes to bash scripting ;-) [03:11] this is what I use: lftp -c 'mirror --only-missing --delete http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-13.0/patches/packages/' [03:12] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@85.139.203.9) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:12] well, get to it :) you'll never learn if you dont do it yourself! if you have questions feel free to ask, we're all bash gurus... er, except fire|bird .. he's pretty much useless.. [03:12] Action: bolide hides [03:12] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:13] the --only-missing part makes sure it only downloads what's missing and --delete removes packages that no longer exist in the mirror [03:13] that's probably the easiest way to go, or just rsync [03:13] Action: fire|bird sends out a search part for bolide [03:13] party even [03:14] only reason I did it the way I did is because I hate how long rsync takes to figure out what has changed [03:14] even if nothing has changed -_- [03:14] but everyone has their own way they like to do it; my way isn't any better than anyone else's [03:14] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:15] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) joined ##slackware. [03:16] I'm starting to wonder now that I have 64-bit slack on one machine and 32-bit on several others if I should be sync'ing with the source and just compiling, so I only have to download one set of updates... bandwidth is an issue [03:16] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:16] I think taht's what I'm going to do.. write a new tool like rsync/lftp.. except you can tell it "check the changelog first.. if it hasn't changed, GTFO.. if it has, get the new/changed stuff" :p [03:17] before 13.0, I had one machine sync with that above command, and then the rest of the machines sync with that local copy [03:18] bolide, lftp is pretty quick about checking if anything has changed or not. personally I think checking the changelog would increase the time it took [03:18] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [03:18] unless your idea was different than what I was thinking [03:18] how so? check 1 file vs check everything [03:19] but I'm not going to act like I know anything about lftp, it may very well do just that.. [03:20] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.45.115) left irc: Success [03:20] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) left irc: "Leaving" [03:20] I don't know how lftp checks to be honest, but running it when nothing has changed returns to prompt within 1 second [03:20] hm.. I'll have to look into that [03:20] and in that 1 second, lftp says it's "resolving host address," so if I added that mirror to my hosts file, it'd probably be nearly instant [03:21] my internet connection works off the cell phone towers, so it lags when it's trying to resolve the name [03:22] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [03:22] considering I'm only syncing with updates, it's only one directory it has to check [03:23] ah [03:23] spooge (n=spooge@173-18-193-232.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:23] interesting...easy when u know how i guess...thanx for the info...on a related subject, can one include additional programs in slackware installation (slapt-get, wine, googleearth, whatever) ? [03:24] bolide, but honestly, if you like to check the changelog, go ahead, the difference in time is negligible [03:25] rogersman: yes, but you could just put that stuff into its own dir and run installpkg over it after setup [03:26] i know..thats what i do...just curious mate ;-) [03:26] google isnt being too helpful today [03:27] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-226.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:31] gawd I hate monday mornings [03:31] Action: slackytude drinks more coffee [03:32] slackytude, what time is it there? [03:32] it's only 3:30 am monday here haha [03:32] Action: slackytude checks clock [03:32] slackytude, yet another case of the mondays.. ever had a monday that didn't result in a case of the mondays? [03:32] slackytude: How much coffee have you had? [03:32] blackorca: He's in Germany. ;) [03:32] bolide: its too early [03:32] 6 hours ahead of US eastern time? [03:32] 9:30? [03:32] fire|bird: one starbucks and now a a cup from our machine [03:32] blackorca: aye [03:33] bolide: some mondays arent that bad [03:33] that's a better time to be having coffee than 3:30 haha [03:33] true ^-^ [03:33] got a nice email tho [03:34] what kind of coffee? [03:34] a teach from uni wrote me an email, asking if I want to tutor some classes for her [03:34] coz of my programming grades [03:34] thats nice [03:34] jescis: I usually get a vanilla latte at starbucks [03:35] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: "bbl" [03:35] Just for the sake of it, how might one include wine (for ex) in the slackware installation...? [03:35] I find I can't drink much, if any, coffee lately.. seems to give me a lot of anxiety [03:35] eeew starbucks >.< [03:36] blackorca: thats sad [03:36] Action: jescis likes his local coffee shop [03:37] Action: jescis also likes his "Irish Cream Frozen mocha/latte" [03:38] is that with whiskey? [03:38] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [03:38] nope... that's irish coffee [03:38] would be a nice idea though, would probably eliminate the anxiety :) [03:39] Action: clank is going to have some irish coffee tomorrow morning and drunk his entire day at work tomorrow [03:39] :D yeahm possibly [03:39] be drunk [03:39] clank: sounds like a plan [03:39] damn, phone [03:40] I do like an "Irish Car Bomb" though >.> [03:40] wouldnt ask for that in ireland mate! [03:40] is that a drink or an act of terrorism? [03:41] lol [03:41] your liable to get your head kicked in [03:41] rogersman, why not? [03:41] it's just a drink :\ [03:41] oahong (n=user@122.225.61.172) joined ##slackware. [03:42] do they sell alcoholic coffee anywhere in the US? [03:42] its like asking for a 9/11 frappe in NY starbucks! [03:42] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) joined ##slackware. [03:42] blackorca yea they are called "bars" [03:42] rogersman, what, they don't have jameson? [03:42] clank, but they sell it combined in bars? [03:42] eh? [03:43] clank: yea [03:43] clank, you ask for coffee in a bar around here and you'll get tossed out of the bar and not by the bartender/bouncer [03:43] jamason or jameson, which is right? [03:43] jameson [03:44] clank, well I don't drink alcohol (except on rare occasion) so I wouldn't know what they sell at bars [03:44] mind you, not because I have anything against intoxication ;) just don't prefer alcohol [03:44] bolide: ordering non-alcoholic beverages at a bar is fairly common because of designated drivers [03:44] that and guinis - is an Irish car bomb. [03:45] jescis: jameson [03:45] Also why would my blood hurt their own kind? [03:46] ah okay guinness, bit minging tho! [03:46] another Vista customer having problems [03:46] *sigh* [03:46] clank, that's what coke/diet coke are for :) [03:46] slackytude: Welcome to Monday morning. :P [03:46] fire|bird: aye :| [03:46] blackorca: if you're in california, I know a doctor that'll give out prop 215 cards pretty easily [03:47] prop 215? [03:47] medical marajuana :-P [03:47] clank, thanks for the offer, but let me assure you if I were in california, I'd definitely already have a prop 215 recommendation :) [03:47] where did I go wrong? [03:47] its wasnt supposed to work like this [03:48] I should be sitting on a tropicals beach right now [03:48] rogersman, sorry, I can't always remember their spelling... I just know it's what I like ;) [03:48] with topless woman and drinks in coconuts [03:48] not vista problems on monday mornings [03:48] dontu have legal alternatives over there? spice, warrior, etc? [03:48] install windows 7 slackytude [03:48] its like windows vista but slightly less retarded [03:48] rogersman, are you referring to the spice that has marijuana-like effects? [03:48] @jescis...yeah, bogging! [03:49] @blackorca, yeah, tried it? [03:49] rogersman, yes [03:49] clank: we have it, but our customers dont. besides, that still leaves me tropical-beach-less [03:49] I can't smoke marijuana for the next couple of years, at all [03:49] why? [03:49] wait wait wait, what spice? [03:50] slackytude, random drug tests that if I fail, will land me in jail [03:50] rogersman, I take it you're *in* Ireland? [03:50] blackorca: great. what work? [03:50] slackytude, it's not for work, but I'd rather not delve into the reason on public IRC :P [03:50] spice is a *currently legal in UK* marijuana alternative, marketed as a pout pourri, but actually rather stronger than the real thing! [03:51] @jescis, scotland ;-) [03:51] it contains legal cannabinoids; chemically unrelated to anything in cannabis [03:51] ah, a brother against the brits ;) [03:51] correct! [03:51] it's already been banned in a number of countries (Germany included, I believe) [03:52] though its being made illegal in england from the end of this year! lol [03:52] clank, rogersman, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWH-018 [03:52] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.77.85) joined ##slackware. [03:53] nevertheless blackorca, results are effective.....so i hear ;-) [03:53] rogersman, it's very effective, let me tell you [03:53] believe me i know lol [03:53] rogersman, I prefer cannabis hands down though [03:53] true...but availability of good green is murder in scotland [03:54] *am i still in slackware channel?* [03:54] rogersman, sure are ;) [03:54] rogersman: what do you think is in that dobbs' head's pipe? [03:55] lol [03:56] rogersman, what you think of "Braveheart"? [03:57] what does that have to do with cannabis? [03:57] oh, 'murder in scotland'? [03:58] you can say that >.> [03:58] soz, had to look busy? um bravehear? brilliant movie for tourism...head pipe? wot? *lost* [03:59] where u @ jescis? [04:00] rogersman, KY USA [04:00] rogersman, the only problem with the legal alternatives is that we have no clue the long-term health risks [04:00] true...but after 5 months in amsterdam, im giving that stuff a couple years break! [04:01] its much more logical to legalise a know product than illegalise everything a force people to use unknown products....sigh... [04:01] On my fathers side, my grandmothers fathers father was from Ireland ;) [04:02] it's coming to that fortunately.... but unfortunately it's happening so slowly :( [04:02] maybe in the US, but the UK is clamping down on everything recently...its doing my head in [04:02] @jescis, bet u still celebrate st patricks day tho! [04:03] rogersman, you said spice is going to be illegal by the end of this year in the UK? [04:03] here's to independance! [04:03] or in England, rather [04:04] yeah, at least in england...we'll have to see if scottish government agrees...prob will to avoid *more* conflict after lockerbie catastrophe [04:04] rogersman, yeah, but not in the stereotype manner ;) [04:04] both are fine by me boyo...whatever gets us seperated from that horrid country! [04:05] I don't need to wear green if I know I'm Irish ;) [04:05] rogersman, can I PM you? [04:05] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:05] work away.... [04:06] = yes ... lol [04:06] oh, lol [04:07] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [04:07] Action: jescis would like to learn gaelic :\ [04:07] u prob know some words already! glen, loch, munroe, etc [04:08] hhmmm [04:09] I know glen, and loch... But munroe :\ [04:09] mountain [04:09] ah, cool :) [04:10] not the most useful language tho lol [04:10] MLanden (n=mello@pool-70-18-154-166.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:10] did u get loads of homecoming scotland ads on tv this year? our goverment has been spending a fortune recently on american advertising [04:10] Doesn't have to be. ;) [04:11] y0 slackers....How's everyone? [04:11] rogersman, I don't have cable or satalite :( [04:11] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:11] muumi (n=chatzill@82.114.68.18) joined ##slackware. [04:11] bugger have to work! laterz everyone! [04:11] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-llhqqquiyfnyvzim) left ##slackware. [04:12] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:16] JJJunkk_ (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [04:16] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:18] blah [04:20] well it's 4:20 [04:20] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:21] I'm sure there's someone in here enjoying the opportunity [04:24] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:25] mkeil (i=marcel@juniper.main.us-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:27] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [04:27] well I'm out [04:27] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-34-93.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:32] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.49) joined ##slackware. [04:36] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:37] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.48) left irc: "Leaving" [04:37] What would be good way to check if running 64-bi slack? [04:37] zmyrgel, cat /etc/slackware-version [04:38] y0 slava_dp [04:38] slava_dp: doesn't help. [04:38] monday morning, eh? [04:38] slava_dp: it just lists slackware 13 [04:38] zmyrgel, ls /var/log/packages | grep x86-64 [04:38] y0 slackytude [04:38] zmyrgel, ls /var/log/packages | grep i386 [04:38] y0 MLanden [04:38] y0 slackytude :) [04:39] y0 MLanden :) [04:39] hows it going today? [04:39] y0 slava_dp [04:39] Just wakin' up 'fore my day...4.30 here [04:39] ah, found a good way. Checking first for /etc/slackware-version and then checking arch with 'uname -m' [04:40] MLanden: thats an ungodly hour [04:40] MLanden: why so early [04:41] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.243.37) joined ##slackware. [04:41] uname -m is a good one. forgot about it. [04:41] adamk (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [04:42] For God's sake, is it just me, or does java just seem to make everything extremely difficult? I've spent ove ran hour trying to find a simple way (that WORKS) to include dependencies in my JAR..i know it's not a #java channel, but they seem cold over there [04:42] slackytude: just an early Monday [04:42] sucks [04:42] corte: aye, #java is kinda uptight. full of snobs [04:42] Yeah, exactly. [04:43] guess thats whats happens to you when you are a java coder [04:43] its not pretty [04:44] hehe, i wanted to use python [04:44] what java, the snobs or both? [04:44] Action: Zordrak bets both [04:44] python + xlib is not very fun [04:44] Zordrak: both [04:44] corte: whatch trying to do? [04:44] what do you expect from "classed" people [04:45] slackytude, well, I've already written the app--but it was basically monitoring a pixel color, and if it changed, sending an email to an address which forwarded to my cell [04:45] getting pixel location was a nightmare in python with xlib..java was 2 lines ;P [04:45] *pixel color from a location [04:46] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:46] corte: have you gone through the python challenge yet? http://www.pythonchallenge.com [04:46] corte: hrm, I wouldnt have tried to use xlib directly. there should be a module that lets you get pixel color from desktop. I know pygame does. [04:46] seemed pretty easy to me after that [04:47] and one of the challenges does do pixel color stuff [04:48] alisonken1home, have not :)..bummer though [04:48] Has anyone got a licence server daemon (lmgrd) rc script for slack? [04:48] have to wait till I get home though - all my notes are there [04:48] i could make one.. but if an elegant one exists.... [04:48] slackytude, Ha, I thought pygame would only be able to access the pixel of it's own window [04:50] anahel (i=tomek@unaffiliated/anahel) joined ##slackware. [04:53] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:54] corte: no, afaik, it can write/read to/from root window as well [04:54] Zordrak: Slackware Genuine Advantage? [04:55] corte: but pygame was just on top of my head. Im pretty sure #python knows some other options [04:56] WARNING: you are not authorized to run Slackware. Will upgrade to Ubuntu in 4...3...2...1... [04:57] Action: Camarade_Tux pokes slackytude and disappears, train to catch [04:57] Action: Camarade_Tux pokes pprkut too [04:57] Action: Camarade_Tux pokes the whole channell, *evil* *laughter* [04:57] y0 Camarade_Tux [04:57] pretty early for you [04:58] :P [04:59] obnauticus (n=l@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:01] Action: toastytoast poke Camarade_Tux back [05:01] lol,pprkut....in reality Will upgrade to Ubuntu in 5.....installs assprobe.deb..needs rod.deb .... 4 .....removes 2.5.6.7.8python.deb...installs 2.5.6.8python.deb....conflicts with wxgtk..patches ....3.....installs tea.deb...removes notea.deb....2.....notea conflicts with assprobe.deb...patches...1.....crashes...goes back to Will upgrade to Ubuntu in 5..etc [05:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTRsLW0eet0 [05:04] blog of helios demostration laptop he takes with him to events [05:05] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:05] and he has windows in a vm on one side of the cube [05:06] eh, our DC server is called atlantis as well [05:07] nifty [05:07] the cube is really good to impress [05:08] I need to get slackware booting on the win7 machine [05:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j60-nsS8ZA&NR=1 [05:09] "vista is faster than linux" [05:10] what he does, though, is take the license key with a piece of paper attached to it that says "vista" and a piece of paper labeled "linux" [05:10] cute [05:10] is that a girl or a boy? [05:10] Action: slackytude has no sound [05:11] boy with long hair [05:11] if you don't have sound then you missed the audio track from the desktop recording that helios did. pretty good [05:11] Action: slackytude shrugs [05:11] not good to have audio for flash at work [05:14] the second vid is kinda pointless with audio [05:14] err without [05:14] nice cube in the first one, tho [05:14] yeah :) it is a little hard to figure out what he's doing [05:14] yep [05:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrAD25V7ll8 <- lol [05:16] i love that video [05:16] that's a classic [05:17] aye [05:21] When I tried to open emacs I get this message:emacs: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [05:21] bob was there only ever real acheviement [05:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX8yrOAjfKM&NR=1 "CollegeHumor: Matrix Runs on Windows XP" cute [05:22] What is shared object file? Why I get this error? [05:23] shared object file is similar to windows dll [05:23] what's the error? [05:23] its probably missing, installed everything? [05:25] It's possibileto insttall shared object file? I've install only the first cd and I get this error many times. [05:26] adeodatus: you may have missed a few then. why did you only install cd1? [05:26] when I want to install a new program [05:26] well, you could install it. Its part of gtk+2-2.14.7-i486-4 [05:26] I want a mimimum install. [05:27] but there is probably other stuff missing as well [05:27] yeah the gtk stuff comes on the third cd with X and everyhting i think [05:27] yeah, a lot of X deps will be missing [05:28] adeodatus: what you could do is try to get the missing stuff with slackpkg [05:28] i can't remeber exactyl but if you want a min install install from all the cds jsut use menu otption to go through and take the stuff out you don't want [05:28] like slackpkg search libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 [05:29] that will show you the missing package you can install with slackpkg as well. that might take a while to get all dependencys but you'll get there in the end [05:29] bhodgins has managed to isntall a fdully functional slackware system on a 1gb hdd [05:29] depends on what you use [05:29] looks like emacs needs X, so you need a lot of stuff [05:30] toastytoast: with or without x? which wm/de? [05:30] i think he had x but only basic twm [05:31] i can't rmeeber but i know he was pissed becasue that is the hdd i accidently did rm -r / on [05:31] I don't X installed. [05:31] yeah [05:31] toastytoast: ok [05:31] well it was rm -r /* [05:31] i meant ./* but forgot the . [05:34] I could install X with slackpkg install,but there are to many stuff to chose from! [05:36] I don't know what to chose from all that stuff. [05:37] adeodatus: what are the specifications of the system you're installing to? [05:38] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.139.32) joined ##slackware. [05:38] I installeth ubuntu. its purty good [05:38] What do mean with specification? [05:38] adeodatus, just do a full install if you can spare 4 gigs of space. otherwise, slackpkg search libgtk; slackpkg install ..... [05:39] kind of computer...the video,audio etc. [05:39] no video, no audio. [05:39] lol [05:40] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:40] if it has no video, why you need X? [05:40] if it has no video why/how are you isntall slack on it [05:40] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [05:41] y0 TwinReverb [05:42] hey wassup? [05:42] y0 TwinReverb [05:42] Because I need to install some programs. [05:43] iirc emacs is linked against X libs. use vim. [05:43] MLanden, hey [05:43] or rebuild emacs. [05:43] adeodatus: Which programs? [05:44] gtypist [05:45] gtypist is horrible. why not ktouch? [05:45] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:46] from where to get ktouch? [05:47] AHAH [05:47] Action: Zordrak notices glxinfo patch [05:47] splains a lot [05:48] yep, noticed that as well [05:48] looks like pat was a bit confused [05:49] hmm.. i need a better way to update all my lack boxes at onge [05:49] john_dee (n=id@93-81-118-71.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:49] *once [05:50] slava_dp: I don't kde for ktouch. [05:51] Zordrak: how you do it now? [05:51] make a cron job for an automatic slackpkg upgrade-all :) [05:51] manually.. or at least with a for loop mith an ssh command [05:51] slava_dp: if i felt like getting a new job...... [05:52] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [05:52] heh [05:53] think ktouch is included with kdeedu package [05:53] yeah [05:53] ktouch is great. gtypist is... well.... the gnu way :) [05:54] inman (n=root@p579B5616.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [05:54] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) joined ##slackware. [05:54] adeodatus, there is also http://typeracer.com you might like it :) [05:54] Zordrak: tried one of those ssh that will aloow you to connect to several machines at once? [05:55] Zordrak: might be usefull for your setup [05:55] slava_dp: thanks [05:55] adeodatus: good luck [05:55] Rejf (i=rejf@blowfish.pl) left ##slackware. [05:56] slackytude: what.. sending same commands to all? [05:56] MLanden: yeah [05:57] Zordrak: yeah [05:58] Zordrak: http://sourceforge.net/projects/clusterssh/ [05:58] Zordrak: there are others like that but I forgot the name [06:01] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:01] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [06:02] flvr (i=0@host-93-182-19-84.real.kvidex.net) joined ##slackware. [06:06] KillerV (i=1000@bhe200150044095.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [06:08] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) joined ##slackware. [06:08] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [06:12] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-egorvaomelpqrmgq) joined ##slackware. [06:12] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Connection reset by peer [06:13] Nick change: PurpleSmurf -> Quiznos [06:13] The-spiki (n=spiki@linette.net.yu) joined ##slackware. [06:14] greetings [06:14] y0 The-Croupier [06:14] y0 The-Croupier [06:14] hows it going? [06:15] really bad :( [06:15] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [06:15] thats not good! whats the prob? [06:16] no technical... real life ones.. :( [06:16] those are the worst. no save point you can reload [06:16] ;) [06:18] from startx, my wm doesnt start (did yesterday) ``AUDIT: client rejected from local host... protocol not supported...'' ideas? [06:20] adamk (n=user@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:21] Quiznos: Which WM/DE? Did you try another WM/DE? [06:21] bb [06:22] no the underlying prob is X i think [06:22] i think it's barfing on NOSPC [06:26] Action: Zordrak thinks summat strange is going on [06:26] i went to update a 64-current (March) box [06:26] and the only thing it wants to upgrade is the kernel... using the /testing packages :/ [06:27] AALinux (n=AALinux@113.11.36.30) joined ##slackware. [06:27] whats "it" ? [06:27] slackpkg [06:27] oh [06:29] manually upgrading slackpkg.. but didnt think id have to.. [06:29] musta been a pre-txz [06:30] but till should have seen the slackpkg pkg [06:30] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.49) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:31] anyone happen to know where a list of what scripts are called when is? i'm having issues sorting through the documentation to find the answer to a question: if xfce4-power-manager is calling a script in /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux when i unplug my power adapter on my laptop, what script does it call when i plug it back in? [06:31] TwinReverb: I believe it's the same script, just a different parameter [06:31] look at the script and see if there's an event check (possibly a case statement [06:32] ) [06:32] an event check? [06:33] like case/esac ? [06:33] something like that [06:33] qneo (n=knao@adsl-d125.84-47-6.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [06:33] oh now i see it [06:33] john_dee (n=id@93-81-118-71.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:36] found the answer: edit /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux/hal-system-power-set-power-save-linux and add the commands you want to the true and/or false portions [06:36] sweetness [06:37] muumi_ (n=chatzill@82.114.81.90) joined ##slackware. [06:39] hrm [06:39] I thought that was handled by acpi [06:39] it can be, sure [06:40] but xfce4-power-manager calls that script itself, so might as well go with what it's doing [06:40] sure, Im just suprised HAL does it [06:40] Its not bad [06:40] as am i [06:40] but the fun thing is that hal calls pm-utils [06:40] so there's like 3 or 4 layers of stuff going on [06:41] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [06:42] i have huge hoggy logfiles [06:43] Hello slack-guys. [06:44] and don't forget the slack-girls as well [06:44] both of them [06:44] Quiznos: if you want some huge hogging log files ......... :) [06:44] Quiznos, edit /etc/logrotate.conf to enable compression of them, and maybe reduce how long they are kept [06:45] Quiznos: i would bet he's talking about logs that arent rotated [06:46] for i in /var/log/* && do echo > $i; done #this zeroes all your files in /var/log [06:47] adhok_ (n=Adhoc@76.109.161.74) joined ##slackware. [06:47] TwinReverb: kill -HUP $(pgrep inetd) [06:47] alisonken1noc: Yes i should not have forgot them. [06:47] errr [06:47] TwinReverb: kill -HUP $(pgrep syslog) [06:47] Hello slack-guys and slack-girls [06:47] whatever [06:47] why would you kill syslog? [06:47] find out why they're large and do something [06:47] once i saw mine fill up fast, it was due to ssh worms out on the internet [06:48] another time it was identd woms [06:48] er worms [06:49] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.39.200) joined ##slackware. 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[07:18] hey all, can anyone tell me how i might add an 3rd party txz file (wine, google-earth, etc) to /slackware directory to be used in future installation? thanx [07:21] rogersman: /slackware directory is reserved for official slackware packages [07:21] rogersman: maybe this will help http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Cooking_Up_Some_Slack_CUSS [07:21] if thats what you mean [07:22] but if you want to, you can put it in the appropriate directory, then reburn a cd after modifying the tag files [07:23] @sahko, that's perfect...cheers mate [07:25] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:26] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [07:33] tiny (n=ivob@89-212-253-180.static.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [07:33] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:34] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:34] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.139.32) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:35] hi people... can someone five me some pointers on how to improve io on my box... it's taking 10min to copy slackware 13 iso from one partition to anoter [07:35] details: slackware 13.0, lvm, ext3, 1tb sata hdd [07:35] get a faster cd? [07:36] one slowdown is the lvm [07:36] yeah.. is the LVM necessary [07:36] alisonken1noc: cd....? i'm copying the iso from /home/zoran to /mnt/data which are partitions on the hdd... no cd involved [07:36] zoran119: can't help then [07:36] kill the LVM, make /mnt/data xfs [07:37] recommendations only [07:37] no guarantees [07:37] rogersman (n=gr235423@nat/sun/x-oesgakmlohjzrreb) left ##slackware. [07:37] lvm is not necessary... i'm experimenting and playing a bit... but i cannot believe that it is that slow... 10min for 4Gb file! [07:38] zoran119: also check the disk is running in the right mode.. theres not an error dropping it to PIO or anythintg [07:38] dmesd | grep sd ought to suffice [07:38] dmesg [07:39] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.243.37) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:39] i find xfs quite slow [07:39] driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods [07:39] what does that mean? [07:40] isnt that a compile-time error? [07:40] it's an error on boot [07:41] in any case its a kernel developer/compiler developer trying to tell a sd developer to modify the source to remove deprecated methods [07:41] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:41] i reckon Zordrak is spot on [07:41] if u google the error u will find posts from many different distro's [07:41] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [07:41] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:42] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.49) joined ##slackware. [07:42] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:42] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.49) left irc: Client Quit [07:43] has anyone experienced occasional freezes with 2.6.31 [07:43] jhw (n=jhw@p548F3F0C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:43] ? [07:43] marto29sf: havent used it [07:43] marto29sf: too new [07:43] livebrain (n=200mg@87-196-158-45.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:43] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [07:44] I've been using it for a few days now without any freezes. [07:45] mohaa (n=mohaa@89.16.15.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:46] vukovar (n=vukovar@CPE-121-220-83-97.lnse2.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: [07:46] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.83.170) joined ##slackware. [07:46] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [07:47] zoran119_ (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:47] alsa failed to work for me on 2.6.31. [07:47] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [07:47] so i reverted to .30.5 [07:48] zoran (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:48] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.49) joined ##slackware. [07:48] Action: slava_dp has .30.5 custom compiling now. [07:49] ok so i have a question: if i want to bash script something so that it does one thing if true and another thing if false, and the condition is a command, how do i go about doing that in the most elegant way? [07:49] sorry people... got disconnected... anyone see anything weird in that thing i pasted? [07:49] like if it's true, do these two commands, otherwise if not (false) do these other two [07:49] zoran (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [07:49] zoran119_: that sd driver .. is harmless and should be ignored. searching google might help if you are interested [07:49] if [[ $(command) ]]; then [07:49] TwinReverb: if [ $? ] ; then [true stuff] ; else [false stuff] ; fi [07:50] $? returns status code of previous command - 0 = true !0 = false [07:50] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:50] or you can: command && true_stuff || false_stuff [07:50] firedix (n=firedix@host12.201-252-148.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [07:50] command && iftrue || iffalse [07:51] my old amd box with ide drive reports 57mb/sec and the new q9550 box with sata drive reports 87 mb/sec.... i expeced a bit more of an improvement (hdparam -t used) [07:51] if command; then iftrue; else ifffalse; fi [07:51] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:51] zoran119: sounds about right [07:51] zoran119: but your problem is write not read [07:51] always is [07:51] mancha, if [[$() ]] is fail. [07:52] slava not really, my first interpretation was command returned a 0 or 1 [07:52] so it depends on how you read the question, thanks. [07:52] mancha, [[ checks output. if checks exit status. [07:53] ? [07:53] slava_dp: were you perchance talking to me with the brackets? [07:54] forget it. [07:54] siimo (n=siimo@unaffiliated/siimo) left ##slackware. [07:54] don't have the time to clarify ;P [07:54] in that case it would be "if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then [true stuff] ; ..." [07:55] bah.. anything more complex than an if statement should be moved to perl [07:55] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:55] python [07:55] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:55] alisonken1noc: die [07:55] :) [07:55] pythons for webapp pussies and windows developers... perl is for the real shit you might use bash for [07:56] How to upgrade a package with slackpkg for example I want irssi 0.8.14? [07:56] perl is for people that can't think straight :) [07:56] adeodatus: slackpkg upgrade irssi [07:56] adeodatus: unsurprisingly [07:56] the first condition was _fail_ [07:57] sajes (n=sajes@67.143.34.85) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:57] i'd go with my second (working) line [07:58] It doesn't work! I get this message: No packages match the pattern for upgrade. Try: [07:58] /usr/sbin/slackpkg install|reinstall [07:58] adeodatus: man slackpkg [07:58] adeodatus: need to `update` [07:58] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [07:58] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [08:01] I downgrade from slackware 13.0 to slackware 12.2 maybe for that reason slackpack doesn't work. [08:02] slackpack. wow. [08:02] hmm if [[ $(command) ]]; not working for me [08:02] I downgrade from slackware 13.0 to slackware 12.2 maybe for that reason slackpkg doesn't work. [08:02] i'm basically calling on_ac_power [08:02] because this is a fail syntax. [08:02] it returns true if you are, false if you're not [08:02] if command; then [08:02] and i'm trying to build a conditional execution on it [08:02] first time I've heard of using double brackets for test [08:03] [[ is not test, it's a bash builtin. [08:03] [ is test and is posix. [08:03] I've always used [ for command exit status checks [08:04] so if [ $(/usr/bin/on_ac_power) ]; ? [08:04] NO [08:04] if /usr/bin/on_ac_power >/dev/null 2>&1; then echo yes; fo [08:04] fi [08:04] adeodatus: uhhh.. why? [08:05] slackware 13.0 sucks [08:05] adeodatus: die [08:05] 13 is very good [08:05] adeodatus: perhaps you suck at usinc it? [08:06] My system is old. [08:06] so run less shit at startup [08:07] yeah [08:08] hmm mine works best like this: [08:08] if on_ac_power; then [08:08] adeodatus, how old? [08:08] 2001 [08:08] 13 is not really any more resource hoggy than 12.2... kde4 is than kde3 but thats another matter.. if you're low on resoruces you sholud be using xfce or fluxbox [08:09] [Kairos] (n=Kairos@unaffiliated/kairos) joined ##slackware. [08:09] sQuEE (n=narya@host212.201-252-27.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [08:10] my video card doesn't with slackware 13.0. slack 12.2 it works very well. [08:10] if you know what you're doing you can make 13.0 work [08:10] adeodatus, what card? [08:11] via [08:11] ... ok, more info please [08:12] lspci | grep VGA [08:12] "doesn't work" is so uninformative. Taken literally, it suggests that X doesn't even start... Heck, it could be taken to mean that nothing is even showing up in the console. [08:12] ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [08:12] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 [Chrome 9 HC] (rev 01) [08:12] adeodatus, did you make sure you did NOT copy your xorg.conf over? [08:13] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.229.106) left irc: "Leaving." [08:13] the new X uses HAL to detect video card and auto-configure appropriately (usually appropriately) [08:14] if a command outputs a 1 or 0, which was my first interp, then if [[ $(command) -eq "1" ]]; then true; fi works [08:14] mancha, ah [08:14] if it is the return value then my 2nd suggestions: command && true || false works [08:15] I didn't copy xorg.conf over. [08:17] should be using the openchrome driver for via iirc. [08:17] alison, double brackets are a power syntax for comparisons at it permits things not allowed in single, such as the compounding via && and ||. you might want to investigate it a bit if you program bash a lot [08:17] adeodatus, ok then so the first time you ran X you ran without an xorg.conf and it locked up? [08:18] mancha, that did not work at all [08:18] so far this works: [08:18] which one? [08:18] what didn't work Twin? [08:18] if on_ac_power; then echo Not On AC Power; else echo On AC Power; fi [08:18] I had many pb with slackware 13.0. [08:18] the double brackets didn't work [08:19] adeodatus, what other problems did you have? [08:19] Twin, ok, i think i've confused you all [08:19] there are two interpretations here, you need to figure out which one you're on. ok? [08:19] on_ac_power returns 0 if true (on wall power) and 1 if false (on battery) [08:19] A) the program (or command) outputs something like 0 or 1 or B) the program returns a truth value [08:19] I counld install all most any program with slackpkg. [08:20] do you see the difference? [08:20] I counld not install all most any program with slackpkg. [08:20] adeodatus: It sounds like you broke it. Cant blame slack for that. [08:21] anyhow, i think i did a good job describing when to use which one. so i kindly suggest you re-read what i just typed a bit ago ":) [08:21] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.16) joined ##slackware. [08:21] If so why slack 12.2 works so well on my system? [08:22] because you understand it (to an extent) [08:23] slack 13.0 should work better out of the box. [08:23] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:23] adeodatus: fail [08:23] adeodatus: slack != ugaybu [08:23] mancha, well i'm equally as confused because neither command of yours worked, and i assume you know what you're doing, so i'm wondering if it's on_ac_power [08:24] on_ac_power && echo "boo" || echo "blah" [08:24] adeodatus: Many of us have been on this channel since (or even well before) 13.0 was released. You are the first person I've heard from who has had such problems, so apparently it works just fine out of the box. [08:24] what does that do? [08:24] adeodatus: Did you at least come in here and ask for help when you started encountering these problems? [08:25] mancha, i know. when i did that myself (on_ac_power && (command && command) || (command && command)) it worked but in reverse [08:25] I wait the next slack release may something will change for better!! [08:25] um [08:25] just type this: on_ac_power && echo "bloo" || echo "noob" [08:25] lol TwinReverb, you've enlightened me =) I've been doing this to check for ac power previously: get_power_status() {cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT?/state | grep "charging state:" | awk '{print $3}' }; power=$(get_power_status); if [ $power == "charged" -o $power == "charging" ]; then continue; fi [08:26] now i know there is on_ac_power :D [08:26] bloo [08:26] noob [08:26] Twin, there you go, now unplug it, and re-run the command [08:27] i'm just confused because i just did that earlier and i got the reverse [08:27] so it does work, you just didn't understand it [08:27] Action: TwinReverb glares at on_ac_power [08:27] that'll be $5 for the repeat :) [08:28] and just to make sure i'm not hallucinating, i can do this and be ok, right: on_ac_power && (command1 && command2) || (command1 && command2) [08:28] nheco (n=nheco@200-96-100-226.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:28] what're command 1 and command 2? [08:28] TwinReverb, [08:28] no [08:28] echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode && hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda [08:29] {command1; command2; }; [08:29] echo 5 > /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode && hdparm -B 1 /dev/sda [08:29] (that's the first and second set of parenthetical commands) [08:29] (respectively) [08:29] thats fine though you don't want to condition executuion do you? [08:29] i.e the way you have it ommand 2 only happens if command 1 succeeds [08:29] TwinReverb, ( ) spawns a new subshell. you don't want that. { } groups commands together. [08:29] #!/usr/bin/perl if(on_ac_power) { foo; } else { bar; } [08:30] Zordrak, no one was talking about perl :p [08:30] mancha so (command1; command2) || (command3; command 4) right? [08:30] I was [08:30] that'll run one after the other. slava thinks you don't want to run these in a subshell, is that so? [08:31] um i just want to make sure they both run [08:31] just use { } [08:31] TwinReverb: use {} not () [08:31] or much better, use if; then; else; fi [08:31] the way you have it will work, they;lljust run in what is called a subshell [08:31] less chance at fail [08:31] {} means no subshell right? [08:31] yep [08:31] which won't really impact the end result [08:34] command && first;second || third;fourth [08:34] ElvisPresley (n=ElvisPre@200.139.123.28.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:34] nope, thats bad. don't do that last one [08:35] tewmten (i=tew@gaskammare.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:36] Alison, i used to have some good sites for that stuff if you're interested ping me sometime. bbl [08:36] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [08:36] arrg this is killing me [08:36] now the first set of commands never runs, only the second [08:37] Action: TwinReverb stabs bash [08:37] zoran119_ (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:38] TwinReverb, it's so simple. if on_ac_power; then do; something; here; else do; something; else; fi [08:38] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [08:38] this is the only one that works as advertised: if on_ac_power; then do this; else do that; fi [08:38] blackthorne (n=bthorne@unaffiliated/blackthorne) joined ##slackware. [08:38] i wonder if on_ac_power may be the culprit [08:38] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-grgczayrmerbaiud) left irc: [08:39] TwinReverb: on_ac_power ; echo ? [08:39] TwinReverb, or, if you wish, on_ac_power && { do; something; here; }; || { or; do; something else; }; [08:39] TwinReverb: on_ac_power ; echo $? [08:39] what does that show? [08:39] WTF [08:39] on_ac_power [08:39] WTF [08:39] eh? [08:39] it shows what i put in the echo command [08:39] 0 [08:40] omnipotentduo (n=omnipote@unaffiliated/omnipotentduo) joined ##slackware. [08:40] TwinReverb: /bin/true ; echo $? [08:40] what does that show? [08:40] 0 [08:40] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:41] like slavda_dp said - but don't put the semicolon between the bracket and || [08:41] on_ac_power && { do; something; here; } || { or; do; something else; } [08:41] but this is being inserted into /etc/acpi/acpi_handler.sh [08:41] guys, got a question. i'm trying to patch the stock 2.6.30.5 kernel using patch-2.6.30.6.bz2. bzcat patch-2.6.30.6.bz2 | patch -p1 -> gives me "Reversed patch detected". what am i doing wrong? [08:41] bleh screw it, it works properly now [08:43] alisonken1home, you're right about the semicolon before ||. fail @ me. [08:44] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-fbpkqthcoftbnqtg) joined ##slackware. [08:46] aww. a truck of fail. the patches apply to .30, not to .30.5. clamp my ears together. [08:46] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:47] long time no patching. ktnx. 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[09:01] lol i killed X on ym home computer thinking the console oi was on was on my lapto [09:02] over ssh [09:04] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [09:06] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:07] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:07] root (n=root@92.82.73.49) joined ##slackware. [09:07] Nick change: root -> Guest80587 [09:09] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [09:09] i thought we prevented logging in from people ircing as root? [09:09] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:09] sahko (n=grbzks@ppp-94-68-145-213.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:10] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [09:11] Nick change: Guest80587 -> aigon [09:12] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [09:12] I installed slack 13.0 and I have pb with the video card. [09:12] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [09:13] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:13] aigon: what card? [09:13] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [09:13] aigon: and as per the above: DONT IRC AS ROOT [09:14] Zordrak: i'm IRCing as root [09:14] hack me [09:15] aigon (n=root@92.82.73.49) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:15] slackytu2e (n=icke@p4FD8A05D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:15] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [09:15] Hello! [09:15] slackytu3e (n=icke@79.216.160.93) joined ##slackware. [09:16] Axius1 (n=rm@92.82.73.49) joined ##slackware. [09:16] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:17] I've installed slack 13.0 and I have pb with my video card. [09:18] what kind of problems? and what video card [09:19] omnipotentduo (n=omnipote@144.162.228.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:19] Axius1: well done for listening [09:20] When I start wm with startx the text is unclear. [09:20] pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log [09:20] what video card? which wm? does that happen in other wm aswell? [09:22] rizitis (n=rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [09:22] rizitis (n=rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left ##slackware ("http://tr.im/freegame"). [09:23] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.142.165) left irc: "Segmentation Fault" [09:25] mornin peep's. [09:25] nannes has given us permission [09:25] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD887C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:26] tank-man: of course [09:26] tank-man: go, go [09:26] nannes: doesn't look like you are irc'ing as root. [09:26] oh a liar [09:26] :) [09:27] slackytu1e (n=icke@p4FD887C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:27] nannes: but some of these channels make me laugh. #linux-it #ubuntu-it #ubuntu-it-chat #debian-it #gentoo-it ##slackware [09:28] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:28] agentc0re: Why?! [09:28] agentc0re: you don't believe I'm using slack?! [09:28] not that at all. [09:29] ubuntu-it?? really? I'd slap any admin using ubuntu as a server. [09:29] How to copy /var/log/Xorg.0.log to file? [09:29] Axius1: pastebin.com [09:30] hehe this is why I suggest pastebin.slackadelic.com [09:30] grabbing the script there.. and pastebinning from command line [09:30] pastebin.ca [09:30] friendlier links [09:30] lol agentc0re [09:33] agentc0re: ubuntu lts actually provides an interesting alternative for servers [09:33] ugh [09:33] NOSSO optimized = pissing sloooooow [09:34] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:34] ananke: slogan: "Not only do you NOT have to set it up, it maintains itself by contacting the HUMAN mothership for updates." [09:35] :P [09:35] agentc0re: maintainability is something very important for most admins. [09:35] s/NOSSO/NOSLOW :P [09:36] ananke: Zordrak and I do this very well with Slackware. In the end though, whatever works for you is probably the best route. [09:37] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host19-69-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:37] agentc0re: congratulations on the first part, and i fully agree with the second :) [09:37] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [09:37] hi [09:38] agentc0re: and there are people who'd slap 'any admin for using slackware as a server' :) [09:38] ananke: theres a name for that type of person [09:38] i believe it is: douchebag [09:38] LMAO [09:38] heh [09:38] Reav___ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [09:38] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:39] Zordrak: right. just because somebody may not agree with your ideas, he deserves that name. [09:39] The only thing more awesome than xbmc is the slackware machine i run it on :) [09:39] keep on keeping it real [09:40] omnipotentduo (n=omnipote@144.162.228.130) joined ##slackware. [09:40] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-77-252.ip37.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [09:40] if someone says WinME was a good OS and I call them a douchebag.. its not because we have diffirint opinions.. its because he is wrong and a douchebag [09:41] the same applies for the ubuntu/slack discussion [09:41] so nyerr [09:41] Zordrak: i don't believe there is any possibility to discuss this with you on a normal level [09:41] so i won't even attempt it [09:41] and there shouldnt be.. it's ##slackware [09:41] Zordrak: try "nyaaaaa" [09:42] ananke: try me in #lopsa :p [09:42] Zordrak: just because it's called slackware, doesn't mean that people using other distributions are douchebags. zealotry is not a virtue [09:42] neither is running ubuntu [09:43] Zordrak: that's neither clever nor valid, but good one [09:43] s/one/try [09:43] My official position is that any linux can make a good server if you spend enough time configuring it properly because it's all GNU/Linux... but Slackware is a perfect server out of the box. ubuntu is not. rhel is not [09:44] Zordrak: and there are plenty of people who would disagree with you, without resorting to calling you a douchebag\ [09:44] Yeah.. but that's cause theyre douchbags... :D [09:45] but your preemptive ad hominem is just sad. i was expecting a bit more from you [09:45] ananke: i expect more levity from you.. well i dont.. but still [09:45] ananke: i dont often find you taking a joke well [09:45] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:45] not to mention that fostering hostility for other distros is not something that should be condoned here [09:45] less srsns [09:46] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [09:46] mre hmr [09:47] ubuntu LTS be a decent server i believe [09:48] superGear: it certainly fulfills the need for distro longevity. heck, i still have some slack 8.1 servers [09:48] I've got an 8.0 - does that count? [09:49] no [09:49] alisonken1noc: unfortunately, 8.0 isn't patched, last time i checked [09:49] no 1.0 ? [09:49] there was no 1.0 per se [09:49] there was a 3.5, though [09:49] I still have the cd on that one [09:49] 8.1 is as far back as pat goes with security patches [09:50] tie for pat to let 8.1 Rest In Peace [09:50] Which is the last that would run on i386 arch? [09:50] superGear: i think what happened is that 8.1 had a very large install base [09:51] i say go back 3 versions for each release [09:52] MLanden: 10.0 Id say [09:52] tho supporting things isn't bad [09:52] or was that 486 alreay. cant remeber [09:52] MS supports XP for a very long time [09:52] I can check when I get hme [09:53] even tho Win 2000 is near death it's been lightly supported till next year i think [09:53] or maybe it's already unsupported [09:53] Axius1_ (n=rm@92.85.223.34) joined ##slackware. [09:54] slackytu2e: ok...thought maybe it was slack 9...know last I tried with a i386 laptop was slack 7 [09:55] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [09:56] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-251.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:56] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [09:57] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Client Quit [09:57] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. 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[10:04] Dominian: client quit... [10:04] Yeah, however, he's been doing that a lot hehe [10:04] i bet he's autosigning in and quitting on a X restart or something. [10:04] Sometimes a time out can mimick a quit [10:05] alienBOB: Hey, .m2ts files are a no go in VLC under Slackware 13 (32 and 64). :-/ [10:06] Axius1 (n=rm@92.82.73.49) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:06] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [10:06] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [10:10] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [10:10] Axius1_ (n=rm@92.85.223.34) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:11] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [10:11] toastyto1st (n=toast@208.233.36.250) joined ##slackware. [10:12] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-152-150.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. 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[10:21] Nick change: gar0t0_ -> gar0t0 [10:22] omnipotentduo (n=omnipote@144.162.228.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:25] beans43 (n=mofo333@cpe-98-155-141-248.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:25] how to tell wget to get a file to directory1? wget http://... "folder" did not work [10:26] beans43: use -O key [10:26] th [10:26] But be aware that -O appends for multiple files IIRC. [10:26] x [10:26] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: Success [10:28] john_dee, did not work. wget http:// ..... -O folder [10:29] -O file, --output-documents=file [10:29] Concatenate all documents into the specified file. If the file exists, it is overwritten. Specify the file as - to write to standard output. [10:29] bah [10:30] beans43: -O BEFORE url [10:30] Zordrak, ok... let me try [10:31] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: "leaving" [10:31] No such file or directory <--- Zordrak error [10:31] beans43: it has to exist [10:31] mkdir -p [10:31] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:32] beans43: then cd to a destination dir and start wget there [10:32] cd not necc.. already pointing at the nonexistent dir [10:32] Zordrak, like mkdir -p | with pipes? [10:32] >.< [10:32] Action: john_dee thinks ppl are soo lazy to rtfm :\ [10:33] create the directory you want to output to before trying to output to it [10:33] yknow so it can like... exist(!) [10:33] -p, --parents [10:33] no error if existing, make parent directories as needed [10:33] ok [10:33] beans43: stop pasting [10:33] we already know the params [10:39] man, its busy [10:41] woo [10:41] Schlaters Flav. No love. [10:42] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [10:42] Nick change: slackytu2e -> slackytude [10:42] almost time to go home again [10:43] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:43] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [10:44] slackytude: another day, another dollar before taxes ;) [10:46] a friend of mine asked the following question: he has two proxies, over which he has to go to the internet. both have authentication enabled. can he set something up locally to authenticate and forward traffic for him? [10:47] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:49] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.229.106) joined ##slackware. [10:49] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:49] toofer (n=toofer@kjordan.securesites.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:05] try info [11:05] but thats all youre getting unless you want to buy a book [11:06] http://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/kde-3-5-10-package-released-on-slackware-com-for-slackware-13/ [11:06] am i late to know this news ? [11:06] marto (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:06] muumi_ (n=chatzill@82.114.81.90) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:06] init[1]: not too late ;) [11:07] marto29sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [11:07] gnubien: well i was late to know the release of 13.0 :D i came to know after 3 days of the release ,ws kinda busy :) [11:08] adupuis__ (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:08] adupuis_ (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:09] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521bbe.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. 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[11:21] omg i have a cobol source file on my fs [11:22] adupuis__ (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:22] adupuis__ (n=adupuis@80.12.81.23) joined ##slackware. [11:22] Quiznos: Is there a datestamp? [11:22] 1.1.90 [11:22] every line has a datestamp [11:22] i'm getting a headache reading it [11:23] trying to escape reality without alcohol is hard [11:23] it's yelling at me [11:23] omnipotentduo (n=omnipote@144.162.228.130) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:23] it's a calculator in cobol [11:23] omg i'm gonna go blind [11:23] Zordrak: Hey so XBMC will do tv. :D [11:23] agentc0re|work: will do, or does? [11:23] quick gime some forth code [11:24] Quiznos: int main(int argc, char argv**) [11:24] phew [11:24] lol [11:24] but that aint forth [11:24] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] spook: Well i have a HDHomeRun and in their wiki it implies that it will. http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=Types_of_Media_Sources#HDHomeRun [11:25] Quiznos: : HELLO ."Hello World " ; [11:25] so it doesnt currently. [11:25] : huh ( --) pop dup 1+ swap dup 1- rot push 2* pop 2/ ; [11:25] ty [11:25] I've just had XBMC up and you can add HDHomeRun sources [11:25] huh [11:26] http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=HDHomeRun [11:26] "The hdhomerun:// protocol was released as a supported source in XBMC Media Center 8.10 and later. " [11:26] Hereos series starts tonight i think [11:27] slackytu3e (n=icke@79.216.160.93) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:27] q! [11:27] Quiznos: that show went to crap during season 2... quite a bummer because it had such a great start. [11:27] :r/dev/null [11:27] :wq [11:27] ok [11:28] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:28] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:28] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.85.223.34) joined ##slackware. [11:29] my usr/local part is 540meg free [11:29] cant do a damn thing with it [11:29] agentc0re|work: it was good because of the suspense. it was never going to satisfy a) the people who enjoyed the suspense b) the people who wanted the awesome super powers [11:29] lvm ftw! [11:29] yeah, lvm + xfs ftw [11:29] well i have free parts to use [11:29] online growing [11:29] s/xfs/jfs [11:29] :P [11:30] anyone using btrfs? [11:31] linus is [11:31] part of the reason hes on fedora at the moment [11:31] i cant get a report from him [11:31] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.14.181) joined ##slackware. [11:32] well he hasnt called the btrfs team a bunch of retarded monkeys, so it cant be that bad [11:32] k [11:32] ironic that hes using gnome after all that [11:32] hi all. does slackware scripts generate some logs during installation? [11:32] what kind of info do you want? [11:32] OclkdMan: /var/log/packages ? [11:32] Yes, very ironic. [11:35] ok. so if a package is corrupted what i would see in those files for the relative package? [11:35] it wont untar then [11:35] OclkdMan: you should check the md5sum of a package before installing it. [11:35] etf (i=c8a34385@gateway/web/freenode/x-wozkyfarrgsxmubm) joined ##slackware. [11:35] slackpkg does that for you. [11:36] and sbopkg checks the md5 of the build.tar.gz and the source tarball [11:37] wow, kool; a local restaurant that charged 1940s prices on their menu; a 100th anniversary celebration [11:38] coffee a dime; desert .50; entre 3$ [11:38] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [11:39] net comm chat on cspan; fcc to release net-neut policy statement today [11:39] OclkdMan: does that answer your question? [11:40] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:40] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:42] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Client Quit [11:42] Quiznos: Guess they had to choose a reasonable time....1909 prices would be really cutting it [11:44] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@nat-wifi-alumnos.campus.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [11:44] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@nat-wifi-alumnos.campus.utfsm.cl) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:46] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:49] Nick change: g4tt0 -> g4tt1 [11:49] Nick change: g4tt1 -> g4tt9 [11:50] Nick change: g4tt9 -> g4tt0 [11:51] MLanden actually, in the news piece, 1909 was mentioend; but the proprietor said 1940s [11:52] ShamwowVideoProf (n=backup@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:52] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.14.181) left irc: Success [11:52] where does slackware get the source for openssl-solibs? [11:52] Quiznos: I see...cool [11:52] beans43 (n=mofo333@cpe-98-155-141-248.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:52] and the header files for openssl? [11:52] yea, up in Sarasota county; not too near me tho [11:52] (not library) [11:54] falx (n=flaviu@78.97.215.212) joined ##slackware. [11:56] Quiznos: sounds awesome [11:57] ShamwowVideoProf: from the openssl project. [11:57] hi all. a little help? the version of openssl is old and i'd like to upgrade it but the old header files are still there [11:57] spook: i could only find the libraries [11:57] ShamwowVideoProf that's because it's split in to two packages [11:57] openssl-solibs and openssl [11:57] ShamwowVideoProf: the version of openssl may be 'old' as you call it, but its secure. [11:57] right i want to upgrade openssl-solibs by hand [11:58] ShamwowVideoProf, you can't do that [11:58] you have to upgrade both [11:58] use the slackbuild for openssl [11:58] i upgraded openssl itself but not solibs yet since i cant [11:59] so i need to edit the offcial slackbuild and modify it to 1.0.0-beta3? [11:59] why are you using beta software? >.> [11:59] unless you have a package that requires it... [11:59] cuz i loveunstable i know im a idiot thnanks [11:59] ShamwowVideoProf: i dont think slackware is the right choice for you. [11:59] yes it is [11:59] ShamwowVideoProf: i think perhaps fedora might be more up your alley [11:59] i havegcc 4.5 already on it [11:59] no no no [11:59] use debian if you're that into bleedy edge >.> [12:00] i want to maintain everything MYSELF [12:00] i compile everything myself by hand [12:00] ShamwowVideoProf then use LFS [12:00] :P [12:00] ShamwowVideoProf: LFS, linux from scratch [12:00] too lazy [12:00] i know what it is [12:00] etf (i=c8a34385@gateway/web/freenode/x-wozkyfarrgsxmubm) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [12:00] petterah (n=petter@static243-165-178.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [12:00] ShamwowVideoProf: well you cant have it both ways, [12:00] then stop asking us stupid questions :) [12:00] ok ok... [12:01] i yeild [12:01] how about you learn how to use slackbuilds? [12:01] ill do that XD [12:01] that'd make your life of maintaining a whole lot easier [12:01] ooo really? [12:01] yes, because compiling by yourself isn't always the smartest thing to do [12:02] you need to set the proper permissions, etc. [12:02] ShamwowVideoProf: its just a script which compiles the source, then packages it [12:02] slackbuilds already have that for you [12:02] you just modify them to match your compile options and off you go [12:02] well writing 1,000 slackbuilds for erm... stuff from git would take days even weeks [12:02] ShamwowVideoProf, no dingdong... [12:02] ShamwowVideoProf: a lot of the builds on slackbuilds.org just need the version changed in the script for it to work [12:02] muumi_ (n=chatzill@82.114.68.18) joined ##slackware. [12:02] slackbuilds are available for all core slackware packages [12:02] Nick change: muumi_ -> muumi [12:03] oh [12:03] and most optional ones are on slackbuilds.org [12:03] kewl so i can still get openssl beta3 solibs and headers woohoo!thanks guys! [12:03] Action: Necos shakes his head [12:03] Action: spook hands Necos a frozen eel [12:03] Action: ShamwowVideoProf knows hes thinking im an idiot [12:04] :) [12:04] Action: Necos slams his head against the keyboard [12:05] k goo-ees. ttyl great support [12:06] oh actually one more thing [12:06] howcome when you compile libnoitify and all that you need to type in ldconfig as root? [12:06] its annoying having to type it every 2 secs [12:06] guys, a slackbuild is simply a bash script that abides by certain conventions, right? [12:06] updates shared libraries database thingy. [12:07] ohh [12:07] ShamwowVideoProf: ldconfig runs at boot by default [12:07] yesyes: sort of. 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[12:09] "abides by certain conventions" <--- a slackbuild is a lot more than that [12:09] yesyes: for submission to slackbuilds.org for example, it has to be tested on all applicable architectures, support all applicable architectures switched through the $ARCH variable, among other things [12:10] it has to include an .info file with links to the source and checksums [12:10] ah, thanks [12:10] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [12:10] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:11] Action: Necos nods to spook [12:11] bradhex (n=chris@c-98-193-248-168.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:11] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-90-126.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:11] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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[12:38] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [12:39] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-34-93.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] Cryp71c (n=robert@74.249.247.83) joined ##slackware. [12:40] Can you make a USB drive bootable w/o having to use a floppy to jump-start it? [12:40] yes [12:40] LordAnta (n=wacky@188.27.105.161) joined ##slackware. [12:41] How, I can't find a resource on it for my life. [12:41] Cryp71c: yes [12:41] fdisk and set the bootable flag [12:41] orly? [12:41] I've put redhate on a USB stick once [12:41] fdisk is the solution [12:42] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:42] mmlj4: I have the latest slackware iso, once I format and set the bootable flag, can I just stick the iso's contents on the flash drive and expect it to boot? [12:42] duthac (n=chatzill@FUSE-DEDICATED-66-161-181-131.fuse.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:42] yes and no [12:42] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.36) joined ##slackware. [12:43] Cryp71c: yes, in most cases. [12:43] there's a few things that are needed to boot linux... I used a howto I found somewhere [12:43] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:43] a lot of my friends install windows that way [12:45] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Xires (n=Xires@66.190.79.122) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:46] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:46] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:46] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.229.106) joined ##slackware. [12:46] quit [12:47] heri0n (n=heri0n@bas6-hamilton14-1279410884.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "leaving" [12:47] LordAnta (n=wacky@188.27.105.161) left irc: "LordAnta has no reason" [12:47] pwc101 (n=pwc101@248-124.noc.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:48] Cryp71c: no [12:48] pupit: why not? [12:48] jareth__ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:48] it just dont work that simple [12:49] what? [12:49] lol [12:49] pupit: whats going to stop it? [12:50] if i remember it right, in my case that fdisk, bootable flag set, worked not... [12:51] i'm not using fdisk anyways, since its performance isn't near as good as cfdisk. [12:51] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:51] But IDK if the same problem might surface with cfdisk too.. [12:51] Cryp71c: uh, preformance isnt an issue when all you are doing is toggling a bootable flag [12:51] On a side note, how can I determine the device location of a thumb drive? [12:51] spook: performance as in, actually doing the format and setting the boot flag. [12:51] fdisk -l? [12:54] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:54] Reav___ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [12:55] Cryp71c: have u tried usb-and-pxe-installers? [12:55] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [12:56] Xires (n=Xires@66.190.79.122) joined ##slackware. [12:58] deco_ (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:58] Cryp71c: lsscsi [12:59] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [13:00] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:00] if he has it plugged in fdisk will list it too :P [13:00] (since having it not plugged in would be a really silly idea) [13:02] lsusb [13:02] Cryp71c (n=robert@74.249.247.83) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:02] lsscsi just provides a very clean and easy to read output. fdisk can be overwhelming [13:02] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [13:02] like i said, fdisk -l would do it fastest :P [13:02] Necos: it's not faster than lsscsi [13:03] but will it do it bestest? [13:03] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [13:03] stop arguing. [13:03] its really trivial [13:03] there are like 1042535839504205326503259325021095 to do the same shit [13:03] :P [13:04] nice thing about lsscsi is that you don't need superuser privileges [13:04] bittin_ (i=bittin@anapnea.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] Necos, that is an interesting number, the only prime factor with greater than 1 exponent in its factorization is 11 [13:06] briareus (n=briareus@mayo-nat2.mayo.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:07] necos, in this world, there are a lot of toilet cleaners.. [13:07] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Client Quit [13:08] and there are a lot more asses than toilets [13:08] briareus (n=briareus@mayo-nat2.mayo.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:08] it's like reading poetry, on a bathroom wall [13:09] >.> [13:09] jareth___ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:09] like a sound of a toilet flush.. hush hush, baby hush, flush. [13:10] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:11] hehehe [13:12] jareth__ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:13] there was a song like that too... [13:13] hush hush, baby - da da da dada de da [13:13] what's that sound? nuttin, just running /bin/flushin [13:13] stop, collaberate, and flushit [13:13] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.80.15) joined ##slackware. [13:13] lol [13:14] flu shit :P [13:14] lol [13:14] crap rap [13:14] Action: esoteric nods [13:14] don't dis the Ice [13:14] lol [13:14] not crappy, crap rap as in toilet tunes [13:15] jareth___ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Client Quit [13:15] funny on two levels now [13:16] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:16] Reeves (n=root@201.76.86.35) joined ##slackware. [13:16] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:16] indeed! [13:17] Reeves (n=root@201.76.86.35) left ##slackware. [13:17] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:30] xsamurai (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] rtfm [13:30] lmgtfy [13:31] lol [13:31] i feel old , i know what rtfm is but whats lmgtfy ? [13:31] :D [13:31] xsamurai: let me google that for you [13:31] thats rtfm vol.2 [13:31] is this like hyper aol l33t talk [13:31] xsamurai: If you'd have rtfm, you'd have known that. :P [13:32] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:33] yeah i usually waste my time having sex with girls instead of reading manuals on how to sound uber leet to a bunch of guys [13:34] xsamurai: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lmgtfy [13:34] i'll just have to wait for paris hiltons dictionary to come out [13:34] TQM (n=tqm@190.87.133.93) joined ##slackware. [13:34] hi [13:34] Action: mancha watches the intartubes break with that self-referential vortex [13:34] heg [13:35] why is darkstar my hostname? 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[13:36] thanks spook! you are cool spook. you rule spook [13:36] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:36] i like spook [13:36] some_dude (n=root@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:36] Action: spook facepalms [13:36] TQM: run netconfig [13:36] ...that was interesting [13:36] cadmium (n=mike@217.194.139.22) left irc: "BitchX: reserve your copy today!" [13:36] no netconfig just base system [13:37] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [13:37] TQM: in the console, run "netconfig" [13:37] spook: you rule spook :D [13:37] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [13:38] no netconfig installed just the base system [13:38] TQM: use hostname [13:38] ok [13:39] TQM: ls -l /var/log/packages/network-scripts* [13:40] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [13:40] spook: i dont think he installed any other packages except base [13:40] just base system [13:41] TQM: also edit /etc/HOSTNAME to make it permanent [13:41] ok [13:41] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-153-100.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:41] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [13:41] nevermind me, the person trying to help you do it The Right Way (tm) [13:42] its not like he'll need to fix /etc/hosts as well [13:44] spook: how can i compile 32bit applications for a 32bit slack on 64bit slack? [13:44] nod__ (n=nod@77-253-26-195.adsl.inetia.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:44] spook: i left that for you, didnt want you to feel left out [13:45] hahahhaah [13:45] a) i wouldn't. b) multi-lib your 64bit install and attempt to cross compile [13:45] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Client Quit [13:45] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:45] spook, tel me, like a im a kid.. [13:45] step by step [13:45] i say attempt, because it probably wont work. [13:46] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:46] so, its better to start a 32bit slack on a virtualbox [13:47] Nick change: nod__ -> nod [13:47] yes. [13:47] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [13:47] slackbuild question: zcat $CWD/doinst.sh.gz > $PKG/install/doinst.sh [13:47] spook, u rule :) [13:47] why not just put the doinst.sh file in the install dir to begin with? [13:47] xsamurai: you too :) [13:48] where does slack saves kernel modules? [13:48] yesyes: theres a template. http://slackbuilds.org/template.SlackBuild [13:48] TQM: the standard place, /lib/modules [13:48] ok [13:49] pupit: thats what it says on my underwear [13:49] yesyes: i believe it's to save space if you have a lot of slackbuilds and doinst.sh file, but i agree it's weird [13:50] yesyes: i embed mine inside the slackbuild script itself, using cat and the << bash redirection [13:50] slackware look very simple [13:50] xsamurai: it says: you too? [13:51] what is the command for installing [13:51] setup does not work [13:51] well it was you tool but the l disappeared after years of abuse [13:51] TQM: installing what? packages? [13:51] hahah [13:52] TQM: installpkg [13:52] ok [13:52] setup was easy [13:52] spook: thanks. i see the whole zcat thing isn't there in that template. i'm still not sure why we don't just put it in install/ to begin with, unless it's just out of tradition. [13:52] TQM: keep this under your pillow: http://www.slackbook.org/html/index.html [13:52] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [13:52] oahong (n=user@unaffiliated/samigarus) left irc: Connection timed out [13:53] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [13:53] thanks [13:53] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: Client Quit [13:53] yesyes: if you have a file, compressed, that must be copied uncompressed to another location, zcat is the simplest way... [13:54] rd5 (n=rds@189.111.164.142) joined ##slackware. [13:54] rg3: i dunno, maybe something with netcat would be simpler [13:54] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-153-100.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [13:55] spook: er, we are talking about the slackbuild script, and by location we are refering to directories in the same machine [13:59] rg3: a joke. [14:00] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:00] spook is batting a thousand :) [14:01] hi [14:01] *txz is the same as older packages in slack [14:01] TQM: no. [14:02] different compression [14:02] :( [14:02] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:02] sh*t [14:03] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-vfxwllmbodjwybfv) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [14:03] shit [14:03] just say it [14:03] :) [14:05] Dominian: what kind of catholic school girl are you !? [14:06] I'm not one.. at least the last time I checked I wasnt [14:06] she got a nice white dress and party on her confirmation... [14:06] ...there goes that fantasy [14:06] *and a [14:07] haha [14:07] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-109-186-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:08] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:09] wich packages i need to networking [14:09] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-90-126.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:09] ifconfig not found [14:09] TQM: install all of /n/ [14:10] no, i need a tiny system [14:10] i just need ping route ifconfig [14:10] dhcpd [14:10] TQM: then LFS using uclibc or something like DSM, damn small linux [14:10] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-90-126.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:10] TQM: how tiny? [14:11] for usb stick use [14:11] TQM: how big [14:12] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:12] <1GB [14:13] TQM: slackware is not going to be very helpful [14:13] woo. my first slackbuild. [14:13] m314 (n=user@87.63.32.249) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:13] TQM: find something that uses uclibc [14:13] less then 1gb is more then enough for slack [14:13] with base and networking [14:14] xsamurai: but he wants to do things the wrong way! [14:14] no x11 xorg GUI [14:14] im on 500mb right now [14:15] TQM: you should be fine [14:15] plenty of space [14:15] what app would you guys recommend for reading smart cards? [14:15] net-tools has ifconfig [14:15] and route [14:15] you need network-scripts too [14:15] and dhcpcd is the other pkg you need [14:16] done [14:16] v3gard: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/pcsc-lite/ [14:17] ZmAY (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] how do i unrar multiple files into 1, from torrent [14:18] ZmAY: the rar is setup to uncompress into one file [14:18] lol [14:18] ZmAY: using unrar? [14:18] you dont have to provide any special options [14:18] spook: yes [14:18] antiwire: thanks [14:18] aigon (n=root@92.84.21.174) joined ##slackware. [14:19] ZmAY: man unrar [14:19] ZmAY: just unar x rar.rar [14:19] if they dont have man , check the help options [14:19] When [14:19] i have a fracture finger [14:20] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:21] Nick change: g4tt0 -> n`G [14:21] in wich package is ping/ [14:21] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:21] aigon: thanks [14:21] ZmAY (n=xxx@89-212-225-234.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:22] I type startx in the console and i get this :bash: startx: command not found. [14:22] TQM: iputils [14:23] TQM: packages.slackware.it [14:23] TQM, grep -i bin/ping /var/log/packages/* [14:23] jonsmith1982: how would that work if he doesnt have the pkg installed =) [14:23] good thinking :) [14:24] ok i have a cdrom [14:24] deco_ (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:24] TQM: use the link spook gave or check FILELIST on the cdrom, it should have it [14:24] jhw (n=jhw@p548F3F0C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:24] aigon: it's part of the xinit package [14:24] TQM: its not nice to keep asking about simple things like where is such an such, just search for it =) [14:25] Nick change: n`G -> G`autumn [14:26] as has been said in the past, we're not here to spoon feed [14:26] _X_ (n=_X_@83-215-144-192.hage.dyn.salzburg-online.at) joined ##slackware. [14:27] im new [14:27] _X_ (n=_X_@83-215-144-192.hage.dyn.salzburg-online.at) left ##slackware. [14:27] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [14:27] i don't have xinit installed. [14:28] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [14:28] install it? [14:30] if i don [14:31] i'll eat your liver [14:32] Rackattack (n=eric@user-0c8h5mh.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [14:32] TQM: next time use a different nick, like bigbusty , linuxwhore, slackslut, gnuskank, ezgirlhax0r, princess_slack, unzip_girl , mount_girl all the guys in here will jump on you , not only will they list the pkgs but they will custom build them for you and send you video's on how to install the packages along with their WoW account names [14:34] i did that when i first started on irc, adding the usually "teehee" ,"wow you're cool" and "i have thing for smart guys" got me all the info i needed [14:34] wertik_rus (i=500@89-178-138-248.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:34] iswallow would be a good nick [14:34] It worked very well. [14:35] macius (n=macius@141.117.180.239) joined ##slackware. [14:36] I install fluxbox and is working great! [14:36] <_AnywhereIs_> ezgirlhax0r lol [14:36] <_AnywhereIs_> nice advice about how to ask for help :D [14:37] Nick change: TQM -> fluxgirl [14:37] john_dee (n=id@93-81-117-133.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:38] geez, WoW accounts? How insulting [14:39] garme (n=garme@187-24-20-223.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:40] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-4579afa2.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:40] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-32-49.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:40] garme (n=garme@187-24-20-223.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: SendQ exceeded [14:40] macius (n=macius@141.117.180.239) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:40] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [14:41] garme (n=garme@187-24-20-223.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:41] garme (n=garme@187-24-20-223.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: SendQ exceeded [14:45] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:45] macius (n=macius@141.117.180.239) joined ##slackware. [14:48] hi [14:48] >.> [14:51] hey im having some problems related to my slackware os, pretty sure its just a video problem since i seen it on every other distro i tried, but im getting a lag when i attempt to resize windows i think i have the wrong driver :( hate ati but dont have money atm to buy a new card [14:52] eh, macius? [14:52] yeah? [14:52] slack13? [14:53] i really dont care cause i presonally dont think its a serious problem but just incase i felt the need to check [14:53] yup [14:53] snearch (n=olaf@e179130250.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:53] using a kde desktop eviroment [14:53] ati card = radeon hd 4550 [14:53] so what driver is HAL using? [14:53] macius: thats a pretty good card. [14:54] grep -i 'radeon' /var/log/Xorg.0.log [14:54] well the proprietary from the ati website [14:55] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:55] ugh lol the problem is im on my laptop now :P and my desktop prob i off so cant ssh [14:55] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] well, i don't use the proprietary driver :) [14:55] so i can't help ya there [14:55] true [14:55] lol [14:56] but chances are it has to do with mismatched opengl drivers [14:56] adeodatus (n=Moondog@92.84.21.174) joined ##slackware. [14:56] yeah i read somehting about that :S but couldnt find a solution really didnt deticate alot of time hto [14:56] tho* [14:57] because you should be using radeonhd... that's what it's there for [14:57] slack is great!! [14:57] true well listen ill try it out ill be back on at 8 from my desktop so dont get mad if i bother you aagin with same question :P lol [14:57] thanks [14:58] macius (n=macius@141.117.180.239) left irc: "leaving" [14:58] i [14:58] you need to reinstall mesa, though [14:58] if you want to switch to radeonhd (so the gl libs match) [14:58] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:58] hey guyz, my slackware isnt working properly tehe [14:59] what software do you all use for ripping cd? [14:59] cdrtools [15:00] Action: Necos prods spook [15:00] Necos: oh i have a thing for smart guys :P [15:00] i 've installed xfce4 and fluxbox. looking awesome!! [15:00] briareus: rubyripper. its on slackbuilds.org [15:01] what ripping tool is in cdrtools? [15:01] sahko: thnks [15:01] cdrtools [15:01] adeodatus (n=Moondog@92.84.21.174) left irc: "Leaving" [15:01] or you can use k3b, which works very well :P [15:01] cdparanoia is the default rip tool in linux [15:01] i broke your slackware [15:01] I have cdrtools installed, but I don't have a cdrtools command. [15:01] Action: Necos pokes nix_chix0r ^.^ [15:02] Necos: ah, i've used k3b to burn, but I didn't know it ripped [15:02] briareus: thats what /var/log/packages/cdrtools* is for. [15:02] nix_chix0r: :) [15:02] spook: nevermind then. [15:02] hai [15:02] jimi_ (n=jimi@68.166.53.50) joined ##slackware. [15:02] nix_chix0r: sup girlfriend [15:03] any ideas when the 13.0 DVDs will be available from the slack store? [15:03] chillaxin before work [15:03] yeah, there's an option to rip (if you're using 4.x, it's been compacted a little) [15:03] jimi_: they are already [15:03] nix_chix0r: spliff? [15:03] jimi_, they're already available, i thought [15:03] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:03] nix_chix0r, awesome :) [15:03] cool, they were only on pre-order last i checked [15:03] Cann0n (i=1337@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [15:04] anyone good with math? [15:04] marto29sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:04] Cann0n: yes [15:04] Cann0n: yeah, what kind [15:04] fluxgirl (n=tqm@190.87.133.93) left ##slackware. [15:04] Cann0n: there is a #math or ##math [15:05] -18+7a=2a+7 i need to know the steps to solve it [15:05] y0 Cann0n [15:05] sup fire|bird [15:05] Cann0n: we dont do homework [15:05] Cann0n: not much, raining outside, just messing with xfce and why themes won't load. [15:05] you? [15:05] oahong` (n=user@218.83.159.11) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:05] Cann0n: get all the terms with the variable on one side of the equation [15:06] Cann0n: a=5 [15:06] Cann0n: everything else on the other side [15:06] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:06] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] Cann0n: does that make sense? [15:07] yeah im in #math. i just needed help understanding how to solve it. math is NOT my storng point. [15:08] neither is spelling. s/storng/strong/ [15:08] :P [15:08] Cann0n: do you know how to get all the terms on one side of the equation? [15:08] Cann0n: this is basic algebra [15:08] spook: i was just asking to better help my understanding on the rest 72 question i have to solve before i write my 10 page report due tomorro [15:09] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.173.36.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:09] har (n=harley@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: "school" [15:09] Cann0n: for example, you want to move the term -18 to the right side of the equation because it doesn't have a variable [15:09] Cann0n: at least you are good at planning and don't procrastinate. [15:10] briareus: lol. [15:10] Cann0n: you do that my adding 18 to both sides of the equation [15:10] Cann0n: you add 18 because 18 + (-18) equals zero, thus effectively removing -18 from the left side [15:11] and 18 = 18 so the equation stays the same [15:11] Cann0n: so -18 + 7a + 18 = 2a + 7 + 18 [15:11] Action: spook tutors maths [15:12] adeodatus (n=Moondog@92.84.21.174) joined ##slackware. [15:12] CmdLnKid_ (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [15:12] Cann0n: simplifying gives: 7a = 2a + 25 [15:12] I can't download squat on slackpkg. I've got one mirror uncommented, but I can't find much to download. [15:12] i'm so horrible with math... [15:12] Rackattack: slackpkg update [15:12] Cann0n: then follow the same procedure to move the 2a term from the right side to the left [15:12] adeodatus (n=Moondog@92.84.21.174) left irc: Client Quit [15:12] GA school systems suck ass. [15:13] i never took any algebra [15:13] Cann0n: does that help you? [15:13] jimi_: yeah a bit. so one more, would you mind? [15:13] Cann0n: the world needs ditchdiggers too [15:14] briareus: and if the ditch fills with water at a rate of x/hour and jimmy can dig the ditch at y/hour how much of a head start does jimmy need to meet the train from new york at chicago [15:14] -9+2z = 9z+12 first step would be to -9 = 11z+12 ? [15:14] weird... Does one of the mirrors have a lot of games on it? [15:14] how can i make some terminal output have equal spacing? i.e. all the columns line up. some awk madness? [15:14] spook: ooooh, story problems! [15:14] briareus: only reason im going to college is to get a job flipping burgers... [15:14] I can't get frozen-bubble :( [15:14] Rackattack: all the mirrors shoul;d be the same [15:15] Cann0n: better reason: hot poonanny. [15:15] anyone willing to help me on a sed issue? or is there a better chan for that question? [15:15] Cann0n: yes [15:15] vastina: bah, go ahead :) [15:15] vastina: what is the sed issue? [15:15] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [15:15] $ sed 's/[\(.*\)]/<\1>/g' index.html [15:15] sed: 1: "s/[\(.*\)]/<\1>/g": \1 not defined in the RE [15:15] Cann0n: oops - i mean no [15:15] vastina: remove the \ before the ( [15:15] i'm defining \1 under \(.*\) [15:16] Cann0n: you have the right idea, you're just adding where you should be subtracting [15:16] vastina: er, sorry, wrong, use ' instead of " [15:16] He is using ' [15:16] Cann0n: you correctly subtracted the term from the left side, but then you added it to the right side [15:16] then the other thing :) [15:17] Cann0n: you *always* add or subtract the same thing from both sides [15:17] Ah! so it'd be 7z [15:17] Cann0n: right [15:17] cheers people, i'll check this [15:17] so -9 = 7z + 12 [15:17] Cann0n: yes [15:17] rg3: I'd have to trust you on that one. REs are not my specialty. [15:17] to get that i'd go: -9 +12 / 7 = z ? [15:18] Action: eviljames doesn't have a specialty :P [15:18] y0 eviljames [15:18] fire|bird: hey dude, how's it going? [15:18] Cann0n: no. you need to subtract 12 from *both* sides [15:18] mentr (n=Hey@195-240-212-157.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:18] eviljames: excellent, thanks. you? [15:18] eviljames: with all the nonsense about regexes, extended regexes, perl regexes and python regexes i never know which syntax i'm using, and it's usually faster just to try to remove the backslashes than reading the manual :) [15:18] Cann0n: you made the same mistake - you subtracted from one side but added on the other [15:19] cmair (n=cmair@host231-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:19] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-27-172.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:19] Cann0n: -9 - 12 = 7z + 12 - 12 [15:19] rg3: hah, isn't that always the way. As the old saying goes: "A programmer tried to solve a problem using a regex. Now the programmer has 2 problems." [15:19] sorry i was distracted, as eviljames pointed out i AM using ' [15:19] lol [15:20] eviljames: no, that's said about "xml" [15:20] wow, we even do math support? :P [15:20] rg3: let's compromise and say both :P [15:20] eviljames: ;) [15:20] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [15:20] jimi_: ah... that's right. thats how you get 7z by itself [15:20] Cann0n: which simplifies to -21 = 7z [15:20] mentr (n=Hey@195-240-212-157.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:20] sahko: rrip_cli? [15:20] giuppy (n=giuppy@host198-162-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:20] mentr (n=Hey@195-240-212-157.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:20] Cann0n: i think it would help you to write down every single step one at a time. it might clarify things in your mind [15:21] jimi_: then you just -21/7=z, z=-3 [15:21] Cann0n: right [15:22] jimi_: my problem is i'm a dumbass with book smarts and i'm only in my math class 2 hours a week. the book doesn't really show good examples [15:22] jimi_: thanks for the help. that cleared a lot up for me [15:22] Cann0n: np [15:22] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [15:22] im gonna try one more on my own then get out of your hair. ;-) brb [15:24] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:24] Nick change: CmdLnKid_ -> CmdLnKid [15:26] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:26] sahko: so far, rubyripper is more to my taste than any ripper I've used. thanks for the heads up. [15:26] lol i wish that was the difficulty of my math classes Cann0n [15:26] Action: jimi_ failed number theory [15:27] GA school systems suck... it really has ade me struggle through college. [15:27] well not failed, but D1 is close enough [15:27] briareus: glad to hear that. its the closer the EAC which is the best ripper available. sadly only for windows. but rubyripper is getting better:) [15:27] s/ade/made [15:27] Action: spook failed first year calculus after being top math student in highschool [15:27] D- [15:27] s/the/to [15:27] i'm taking calculus eventually... [15:27] sahko: I run as much as possible out of cli, so thanks. [15:27] Cann0n: just sleep with your teacher like i did [15:28] Cann0n: good luck [15:28] and yeah, bribe/fuck your way through calculus [15:28] don't forget to tutor/fuck hotties [15:28] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [15:28] yeah... thats how i plan on passing Eng Comp 1 [15:29] ElvisPresley (n=ElvisPre@200.139.123.28.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [15:29] tooly (n=tooly@e178162050.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [15:29] briareus: why do you think i tutor maths? [15:29] briareus: then i must tell you that some options arent available from the cli interface yet. you might wanna take a look at the config file [15:29] reallove (i=reallove@unaffiliated/reallove) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:29] lol spook [15:29] ok, lets see if i got this one right. 5x+4=-3x-4 x=1 [15:30] sahko: I didn't know there was another interface; I only found rrip_cli, no other command found yet [15:30] / [15:30] wait... no i didn't. fuck... [15:30] Cann0n: almost [15:30] aigon (n=root@92.84.21.174) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:30] why did i read -1? lol [15:30] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-37.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:30] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [15:30] my brain just rejected what was on screen and inserted its own reality lol [15:31] Necos: you fail. :P [15:31] :) [15:31] briareus: yes, i maintain the SlackBuild, and i only build CLI. theres a newer version available btw, but im waiting 0.6 to update it. which should be soon [15:31] sahko: np, and thanks for the maintenance [15:31] i did +4 = -8x-4 so then i'd 4-4 = 0. so 0=-8x [15:32] that alcohol is looking mighty tempting [15:32] no lol [15:32] Cann0n you almost have it right the first way [15:32] you just missed the sign [15:33] -4-4 = -8, not +8 [15:33] oh, so i 4+4=8, the 8/-8 = -1 [15:33] signs signs everywhere there are signs [15:33] and -8/8 = -1 :) [15:33] sigh.... i hate math so much... i had been working on this shit about 3 hours before i came here... [15:33] holy crap, I never knew MRI were so dangerous [15:34] Cann0n: do what i did , drop out :D [15:34] Cann0n: when you do it, add or subtract the same time, with the same sign, to both sides, then cancel them out. like, 2 + x = 7, -2 + 2 + x = 7 - 2, 0 + x = 5, x = 5 [15:34] deco: can't. parents forced me into college again. [15:34] Cann0n: ok :P [15:35] i miss college , i would love to go back [15:35] enjoy your time [15:35] my all time goal in life right now is to get any job. even if it's 5 hours a week sucking dicks on the corner [15:35] "It should be stressed that even in the presence of a true fire, the magnetic fields may be fully operational. Access by firefighters with air tanks, axes, crowbars, guns, etc., might prove catastrophic or lethal to those responding or in the vicinity" [15:35] Cann0n: how old are you ? [15:35] 23 [15:36] loser [15:36] Cann0n: ok , im 21 :P [15:36] I mean that in a good way [15:36] lol [15:36] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [15:36] already did 2.5 years of college. have a degree in Fire Sciences and Safety [15:37] Cann0n: excellent, so when you're flipping burgers and a fire breaks out, you'll know exactly what to do. :P [15:37] "don't light a match" [15:37] Cann0n: I'm reading up on fire safety in an MRI environment right now [15:37] briareus: imagine a fire in LHC [15:37] fire|bird: LOL! [15:37] spook: wow, yeah [15:37] briareus: sweet. [15:37] i'm about to go to bed. [15:37] i've looked everywere for work. been to 5 cities in Florida, sleeping where I could [15:38] Cann0n: sell your body [15:38] Cann0n, doing what? [15:38] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] Cann0n: I just read about a fucked up scenario where an O2 tank from a vendor was incorrectly marked as MRI-safe. Someone rolled it into the MRI room and the magnet sucked it in. It was a 40lb missile that reached 60mph before stopping in the center of the MRI ring (right where your head goes) [15:38] wertik_rus (i=500@89-178-138-248.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [15:38] last place i applied, the manager showed be the stack of application for 2 positions. it was well over 400 pages [15:39] people have been killed in MRI magnets by such mistakes [15:39] LOL [15:39] briareus: nuts lol. gotta love the govt [15:39] briareus, that's crazy [15:39] that's scary as fuck [15:39] if it was only on cam [15:39] Cann0n: i don't think suckings dicks is worth it ;) [15:40] once, it ATL GA, an unmarket semi-truck rolled over and tons of bombs spilled oun all over the road [15:40] apparently, a fire in the MRI is even worse, because it will cause a quench (when the supercooled helium vents, causing any O2 in the room to liquefy and thus suffocate you while becoming highly explosive) [15:40] jimi_: i haven't worked in 3 years [15:40] yeah you'll end up spending more money at the dentist [15:40] briareus, you gotta love chemistry [15:40] so if you are ever in an MRI room and you hear a loud bang and see white clouds in the room, run for your life. You are about to die. [15:41] trust me, 3 years of free loading really changes who you are... [15:41] Cann0n: what part of the world are you located in ? [15:41] Florida, USA [15:41] briareus: They should hang a sign with that exact saying on it on the entrance to the MRI room. :P [15:41] briareus, i'd be more worried about having the MRI in the first place [15:42] Cann0n: have you tried searching on craigslist ? [15:42] Cann0n, what kind of work? [15:42] Cann0n, and where in florida [15:42] xsamurai: yeah. [15:42] hiptobecubic: Near Jacksonville, but i've been all over [15:42] any kind of work. i mean, ANY kind. [15:42] you didnt put "willing to suck dicks" in the cover letter ? [15:42] Necos: whats even better is if you had some terrible surgery in the past where someone left a scissor or a scalpel in your chest, and then you go for an MRI in the future. Magnet turns on and the metal is ripped from your chest. [15:42] i'll turn gay for a job. fuck it. [15:43] lol [15:43] xsamurai: no, but i should... [15:43] This is why you cannot have a pacemaker and get an MRI exam [15:43] yeah, that's fuckin scary [15:43] I had an MRI once [15:43] it felt wwwiiieeerd [15:43] also weird [15:44] make thins worst my mom is changing careers soon. she will be making 1/4 of what she makes now and we are struggling as is [15:44] You can feel your knee caps move [15:44] Necos: apparently there is a problem for certain polynesians and prisoners who have metal-content tattoos. They get an MRI and it tries to rip the ink from their skin [15:44] Cann0n, why would she do that? [15:44] hiptobecubic: lower stress job [15:44] Cann0n: search out of your city , state, but right now its tough everywhere , job market is in the shit hole [15:44] Action: hiptobecubic is also jobless at the moment [15:45] job market will never return to what it was. We require depopulation and massive deflation to realign. [15:45] yes we can and change , have left us with 2 nickels and a gum wrapper [15:45] get ready for permadepression [15:45] john_dee (n=id@93-81-119-114.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:45] or move out of the US [15:45] briareus: it has nothing to do with the population [15:45] US is a sinking ship, and pay attention to the rats. they are already jumping ship [15:45] xsamurai: i did that. i even hopped into a labor pool a few times and only got work from there 1/3 the time busting ass for 28.75 for a 9 hour day [15:45] you guys could try internships, to get yourselves a foot in the door, as it were. that's what i'm going to do quite soon, once i quit my job. [15:46] you could always suck dicks for cash. [15:46] i stood out there with the mexicans trying to get a job picking up nails at a construction sight [15:46] internships dont pay the bills, and assholes these days will use and abuse u for as much as they can [15:46] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] Nick change: Meckafet1 -> Meckafett [15:46] briareus: yeah... too bad there aren't many gays in my area... i live 12 miles from the nearest store, so job hunting costs bukus gas [15:46] if the economy was good , it would make sense to do internships [15:46] Cann0n: getting a blowjob from a man doesn't make you gay. [15:47] >.> [15:47] Cann0n: that's your selling line. [15:47] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@adsl-149-141-185.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] xsamurai: yes, i'm aware of that. they can, however, lead to jobs. [15:47] hahahahaha [15:47] "You aren't gay if I blow you" [15:47] i see someone's had experience, hahaha [15:47] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.173.36.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:47] lol [15:47] Hey guys, been a long time since I used slackware and I just setup my work system on it. I have 2 major issues atm. [15:48] The first is that my local account doesn't seem to have access to...well, anything. [15:48] sucking dicks is not one of them ? [15:48] Terminal (instead of bin/bash) puts me at (sh) and I can't even ifconfig, I'm unsure as to how to remedy this. [15:48] xsamurai, no I'm fairly sure it isn't. [15:48] Cryp71c: did you use useradd? or adduser? [15:48] Pig_Pen, useradd [15:48] wtf is gam_server and why is it always hogging my cpu [15:48] a server of some sort, one would presume. [15:48] try again only this time use adduser [15:49] Cryp71c, one would indeed. [15:49] anyone live near FL? If you come here, BJ = $10, HJ = $5 and a FJ = $35 [15:49] hiptobecubic: sorry, that's my trojan [15:49] Pig_Pen, I need to remove this user atm? [15:49] FJ? [15:49] Cryp71c: sounds like missing pkgs for the network issue [15:49] Full Job. anything you want... [15:49] Foot or Full ? [15:49] wth [15:49] for 35? that's a steal [15:49] you could also edit /etc/groups and add this user to some of the lines [15:49] yep. limit to 2 hours [15:49] blackula (i=1000@97.81.105.128) joined ##slackware. [15:49] I get off on people robbing banks and giving me the money. [15:50] lol [15:50] check's in the mail [15:50] Pig_Pen, so useradd doesn't stick new users into the default groups? [15:50] well, i need to go bust out this homework [15:50] thanks for the help guys [15:50] next time use adduser [15:50] i'll be back to let ya'll know how my new street walking career goes [15:50] Cann0n (i=1337@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:51] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@adsl-149-141-185.bna.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:51] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [15:51] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:51] ewwww [15:51] >.<; [15:51] http://personalbrandingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/depression-era-job-seeker1.jpg [15:52] mentr (n=Hey@195-240-212-157.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Client Quit [15:52] darn! Cann0n left, i wanted him to see that pic [15:52] mentr (n=Hey@195-240-212-157.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:52] Pig_Pen: we are entering such times [15:52] yup [15:52] What a great time [15:52] err [15:52] sign [15:52] snearch (n=olaf@e179130250.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [15:52] wow lol [15:52] Pig_Pen: I fear this time the reflation madness will prolong and extend it even longer than the first time around [15:53] reflation? [15:53] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@adsl-149-141-185.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:53] Excellent, thanks Pig_Pen [15:53] thank Pat V for writing the adduser script [15:53] Pig_Pen, nooooo, still can't ifconfig =\ [15:53] Cryp71c: are you root ? [15:53] reflation. the sum total of all the recent QE/currency/bond swaps undertaken by the central banks in the last 17 months or so [15:53] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [15:53] xsamurai, nope, user. [15:54] configuring a network is supposed to only be done as root [15:54] I keep forgetting you can't even ifconfig unless you're root [15:54] run netconfig [15:54] command not found [15:54] (ifconfig reports command not found as well0 [15:54] run it as root [15:54] right :) Gotcha. [15:54] hmmm [15:55] brb [15:56] Pig_Pen, any way I can remove EVERYTHING that got installed with the KDE package? [15:57] pkgtool, look at the remove packages section [15:57] Cryp71c: ha, I know the feeling! I don't kde. well I take that back, I've come to appreciate k3b but I tend to cdrecord anyway. [15:59] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-yhjevenfltsmhjci) left irc: "leaving" [15:59] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-sllatciqbmjsvubu) joined ##slackware. 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[16:32] Nick change: bolide_ -> bolide [16:33] thumbs: :) [16:34] uh, I just had a wierd thing happen. My bash seems to have broken in the last few minutes. I can't autocomplete, nor can I open new terminals, but the programs currently running in terminals seem to be ok/running. I'm not sure what to check. [16:34] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:34] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:34] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [16:35] briareus: uh? what does "ls" do? [16:35] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:35] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:35] uh, I just had a wierd thing happen. My bash seems to have broken in the last few minutes. I can't autocomplete, nor can I open new terminals, but the programs currently running in terminals seem to be ok/running. I'm not sure what to check. [16:35] oops [16:35] ls works. auto-complete doesn't. and any terminal I try to open says "can't open display:0.0 [16:36] briareus: disk space? [16:36] auto-complete doesn't work... no idea [16:36] briareus: nm [16:36] not maxed out anywhere on disk space. The only unusual thing I'm doing is running a ruby music ripper in a terminal that I just installed the slackbuild for. everything else is business as usual [16:37] briareus: commands, files or every kind of autocomplete? [16:37] i had that error awhile cant seem to recall what the fix was [16:37] awhile back [16:37] check google for cant open display: 0.0 [16:37] like when I try to "ls .bash" I have no .bash_* visible [16:38] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] briareus: do you press tab twice? [16:38] briareus, but you can ls .bash*? [16:38] hope crap, at ls-al all my ~/.bash_ files are gone. [16:38] I mean gone. [16:38] as in, goes from .adobe to .cddbwav [16:39] briareus: type "pwd" [16:39] how the F does that happen [16:39] <[ briareus@slackbook ]> ~>$ pwd [16:39] /home/briareus [16:39] Yep, that's bad. [16:39] its the man, he's after you [16:39] briareus, hmm. are your directories still there at ~/briareus? [16:40] yes [16:40] ^or your non-dot files? [16:40] check permissions [16:40] the only files I notice gone are my .bash_* [16:40] do you use firefox, briareus? [16:40] so tab complete is working [16:40] rg3: yes [16:40] briareus: and is your ~/.mozilla gone? [16:40] su to root and 'ls -al' that directory [16:40] .mozilla is there [16:41] to make sure it's not a permissions issue like xsamurai said [16:41] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. 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[16:45] kernel logs (syslog) just has my bootup this morning and a horde of firewall messages (normal since I'm on the company network) [16:45] esoteric: I'm checking [16:45] i usually have a disaster check list for these types of things and it starts like this [16:45] 1. Am I high or drunk [16:45] 2. Is the computer on [16:46] xsamurai: I've been using it for hours and it just started a bit ago [16:46] briareus: were you logged in as root in another terminal during this time period? [16:46] esoteric: yes and no. I had an aterm running on the desktop that I su- to a couple times to run sbopkg [16:46] mostly no root running today [16:46] could be a pkg you installed [16:46] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:47] maybe .adobe ate it [16:47] who knows, something you did caused the files to disappear [16:47] this rubyripper is the only one I installed today (OH WAIT< I did run the update function on sbopkg and installed many things) [16:47] crap [16:47] yeah there ya go, thats a start [16:47] rubyripper was the only *new* software, the sbopkg update was lengthy [16:48] 3. How much pot did i smoke [16:48] alphad64 (n=alphad@41.189.39.186) joined ##slackware. [16:49] briareus, you might want to look for those files somewhere else on your filesystem (just in case they were moved, not deleted) [16:49] I will look [16:50] muumi (n=chatzill@82.114.68.18) joined ##slackware. [16:50] briareus, ... like a 'find / -iname ".bash*" -daystart -type f -atime 1' or something [16:52] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-77-252.ip37.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:53] after an updatedb and a locate .bash* I find /root/.bashrc and /root/.bash_history, some stuff in /usr/ ...it seems my user's bash config is obliterated [16:53] Troubling. [16:53] briareus, which filesystem are you running? [16:53] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [16:53] ext4 [16:54] i've heard bad bad things about that fs [16:54] well that sucks [16:54] i've been using it for months [16:54] i bet it's a user error [16:54] but how? [16:54] i don't know [16:54] i just dont like the #4 for starters [16:55] I ran a ripper, I've been in irc, and I ran sbopkg as root. I'm at work and haven't been able to tinker if I wanted to [16:55] briareus, is it just one big partition or is /home its own partition? [16:55] i've had that kind of problems in the past, things appearing apparently for no reason, and usually it's my fault and i realize about them when they happen again, and i investigate what the two situations had in common [16:55] I have a /home partition [16:55] disappearing* [16:55] does sbopkg create a log of the updates ? [16:56] xsamurai: yes, I'm looking at it now, trying to decipher [16:56] cool -- I would umount that thing ASAP and mount it RO to prevent further writes to it [16:56] I'm holding page down on the logger, xsamurai because its a jillion lines long [16:56] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578BC4.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:56] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.80.15) left irc: "Leaving." [16:57] you should be able recover the files with diskutil [16:57] if they are super important , if not spend some time and go through the log files and trace the issue [16:57] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432935.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[16:59] !ALERT: root@slackbook ~># ls -ld /home/briareus/ [16:59] drwx--x--x 51 briareus users 4096 2009-09-21 13:53 /home/briareus// [17:00] ? [17:00] briareus: grep briareus /etc/passwd [17:00] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-251.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:00] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [17:00] briareus, sorry, i meant /etc/group [17:01] briareus, nm -- i'm mind farting [17:01] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@188.177.95.62) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:01] Nick change: t_ -> t [17:02] how do I umount a running /home that I'm busy in? [17:02] briareus, gotta log out and do it all as root [17:02] ah [17:02] ok then thanks, bbl [17:02] good luck [17:03] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC308E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [17:03] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:04] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.229.106) left irc: "Leaving." [17:05] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.229.106) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:06] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [17:06] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:07] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui pro aniversario da mulher" [17:08] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:08] I am using SL 13 as a VM. The VMware tools do not work with the default KDE. In KDE, when I try to maximize the window, the console remains the orginal console size of 600x400 [17:09] The other window managers are working fine. [17:09] jimi_: hey! thanks. I understand it a lot better now. [17:11] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:19] i'm getting better at thismath shit [17:19] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:19] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:19] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.28.94.0) joined ##slackware. [17:19] Cann0n: cool. [17:19] a5 =$25 if a = 5 hand jobs a day. [17:19] fire|bird: dunno [17:19] antiwire: ok, thanks. [17:20] Elektro (n=elektro@85.84.204.34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:20] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left irc: "leaving" [17:21] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-32-49.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:21] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.173.36.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:22] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:23] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.28.94.0) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:25] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-176-98.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [17:28] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-153-100.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] did I say something¿? [17:29] ? [17:30] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:30] dissociative: now you did. :P [17:30] y0 slackers...whuzzup? [17:30] hey hey [17:31] y0 mrselfpwn [17:31] explorering irc bots. [17:32] y0 MLanden, how's it going? [17:32] mrselfpwn: makin a bot army? :P [17:32] lol [17:32] going good for the afternoon thanks fire|bird and yourself? [17:32] Argh, these pidgin colors are aweful now with a dark theme. :/ [17:32] MLanden: excellent, thanks. [17:32] Which packages does dos2unix belong to? [17:32] army of one. His name is Harvey. [17:33] Harvey Levin? "I'm a Lawyer" ? :P [17:33] no, Harley. my mistake [17:33] lol [17:34] mrselfpwn: What will your bot be able to do? [17:34] alkos in slack you hav fromdos [17:35] Action: Necos randomly stabs fire|bird [17:35] ^.^ [17:35] OUCH [17:35] It will walk users through the steps they need to take to join or little group. [17:35] join #java [17:35] Sorry [17:35] he is a Recruiter Bot [17:35] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:35] mrselfpwn: cool [17:35] lol [17:35] lol [17:35] ? [17:35] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.28.203.4) joined ##slackware. [17:36] right now he doesn't do it yet [17:36] but he will [17:36] anyway looks like my isp is providing me a bad adsl internet over a non qualified loop [17:36] shame [17:36] the only think is i'm working with mostly very untechnichal type people. [17:36] s/think/thing [17:36] mrselfpwn: lol, that must be fun then. :P [17:36] and everytime I send a question there my connection goes down [17:37] yes, lol [17:37] >> [17:37] so, i'm gonna just make it so they can say his name and he will respond. Like hello harley, and that will start the detailed steps. [17:38] What could possibly go wrong? ^^ [17:38] #quassel has a bot that when you join and say hello, it responds with Hello your_nick_here [17:38] I think I might have him insult them if they make a mistake. [17:39] hahaha, that'll be great. [17:39] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:39] mrselfpwn: "YOU IDIOT, WHAT DID I TELL YOU TO DO?" :P [17:40] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-27-172.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:40] lmao Yes! [17:40] lol.....put it with a incrementable variable and as it gets higher ,it starts getting angrier [17:40] lol [17:40] and more insulting [17:40] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:40] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-26-98.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:41] "YOU IMBECILE, CAN'T YOU GET ANYTHING RIGHT" [17:41] sorry [17:41] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [17:41] lol [17:41] hehe [17:41] when that same person logs in at a later time...."Oh no,not you again!"...:D [17:41] great idea [17:41] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:41] MLanden: hahaha [17:42] #quassel uses rubybot [17:42] How do I get php activated ? (for httpd) [17:42] mrselfpwn: Leave people walking away from the pc questioning their sanity and ability to follow simple steps. :P [17:42] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:42] hehe [17:42] alphad64 (n=alphad@41.189.39.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:42] mrselfpwn: Ah, ok. I didn't know what bot they used, just that they had one. [17:42] sanity? what is that? [17:42] I am using supybot. [17:42] lol,fire|bird [17:42] muumi (n=chatzill@82.114.68.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:42] alphad64 (n=alphad@41.189.39.186) joined ##slackware. [17:42] usr13: Something we used to have, then we found irc. [17:42] obnauticus (n=l@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [17:42] !version [17:43] aaahhhh... [17:43] works for their bot anyway [17:43] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@96.21.131.161) joined ##slackware. [17:44] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] mrselfpwn: how non-tech are these folks anyways? [17:45] qwerty (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [17:45] hrm [17:45] MLanden: "Umm, where's the power button" :P [17:45] qwerty (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:45] Rackattack (n=eric@user-0c8h5mh.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:46] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:46] usr13: sanity: the quality or state of being sane; especially : soundness or health of mind <----Yup, we lost that LONG ago. :P [17:46] Action: MLanden lights 8 boxes of candles for mrselfpwn and invokes Bob for all assistance for this dear slacker [17:46] haha [17:46] lol [17:47] Action: fire|bird hands MLanden a ninth box for good measure [17:47] Action: Necos comes back to randomly stab fire|bird again [17:47] :) [17:47] dang, that's twice. I just got stitches for the other one. :P [17:47] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-176-98.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:48] it's entertaining :) [17:48] maybe for you. [17:48] Action: fire|bird runs Necos over with a tank. [17:48] well the guy i have helping me i told him... (using the alias i have set) [17:49] Ah, that was fun.....oh wait, I mean entertaining. [17:49] /ban without the space to ban someone [17:49] macius (n=macius@i209-195-120-203.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:49] and he said like this /banuser ? [17:49] lol [17:49] and he's my best guy [17:49] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [17:49] mrselfpwn: You have my sympathy, :P [17:49] lol fire|bird [17:49] :) [17:49] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [17:50] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) joined ##slackware. [17:50] fire|bird: thanks [17:50] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.28.203.4) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:51] fire|bird: have you got csound setup? [17:51] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [17:52] MLanden: I believe so, yeah. [17:52] heh, now I'm in irc with finch. [17:52] This is interesting. [17:53] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:53] saw this on freshmeat http://smasher.sourceforge.net/ don't know how compatible it is with slackware's gtk or csound..but it does look interseting [17:53] phoenix^: i use bitlbee to have irssi access my messenger prots [17:53] MLanden: Cool, thanks. Looks very interesting. [17:54] mrselfpwn: Yeah, I just tried finch because I never have before and with the xfce theme I have now, the font colors are aweful. [17:54] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [17:54] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:54] O.o [17:54] hi [17:54] Quiznos: y0 [17:55] hi L [17:55] mrselfpwn: Must fonts aren't even legible, for the nicks anyway. I have the other text setup alright. [17:55] s/Must/Most/ [17:56] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: "leaving" [17:56] oh. what font are you using? [17:56] mrselfpwn: Liberation Sans 12, but the colors don't look good when the theme in xfce is dark. [17:56] you can change the xfce-terminal's fonts in terminal preferences fire|bird [17:57] mrselfpwn: Yeah, I do that with irssi, but this is in pidgin, the gui client. [17:57] ohhhh, okay i see. [17:57] and it doesn't look like the ones that need changing can be changed. [17:57] we will convert fire|bird to xfce eventually ;) [17:57] thrice`: I'm on xfce now, and loving it. [17:57] woot! [17:57] :D [17:57] heh [17:57] thrice`: I got chopp converted too I think. :D [17:58] y0 agentc0re|work. Any idea with pidgin colors? [17:58] i have been using xmonad as the xfce wm and it's actually pretty cool. [17:58] hehe, the converted, converted a converttee [17:58] converter* [17:58] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:58] We shall form an xfce army. :D [17:58] fire|bird: you can change theme's and make your own. never tried. [17:58] Just don't make the army's logo the mouse. :P [17:58] but I didn't come from no stinkin kde. :P [17:59] lol [17:59] haha [17:59] jeebus [17:59] chopp: Doesn't matter, you're one of us now. No going back. :P [17:59] dont you people work [17:59] except for you east coasters [17:59] Don't you? [17:59] i work for myself [17:59] fire|bird: true that. :) [17:59] incredibly slackware is only about 850meg without kde [17:59] lol [17:59] fire|bird: plugin pack maybe? [17:59] kde should dump kde! [18:00] err [18:00] Nick change: alkos333_2 -> alkos333 [18:00] agentc0re|work: Oh yeah, especially 2.6.2 has that theme editor [18:00] I had some mayhem happen from messing with rpm2tgz [18:00] slackware* [18:00] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [18:00] agentc0re|work: I've been through each of the plugins, nothing affects these colors. [18:00] superGear: kde should too. ;) [18:00] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [18:00] jeev: you just have to work twice is hard, because you suck twice as much [18:00] agentc0re|work: Here's what I mean. http://imagebin.org/64734 [18:01] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-70-89.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [18:01] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [18:01] yup [18:01] suck, get it, get it?? [18:01] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:01] [ in bed ] [18:01] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [18:01] fire|bird: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/pidgin-tips-and-tricks/ [18:02] fire|bird: what would you want to change in that screeny? [18:02] you tend to have a lot of free time on your hands when your IT Security head doesnt know what a cat5 cable is called and tends to refer to it as a thingy [18:02] agentc0re|work: The nick colors, like mine is blue, hard to see, mrselfpwn's is hard to see, etc. [18:03] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:03] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [18:04] xsamurai fire his ass [18:04] Cann0n (i=1337@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:05] fire|bird: Preferences->use font from theme might change it. [18:05] Quiznos: its a her [18:05] it doesnt matter [18:05] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-70-89.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:05] the CTO doesnt know what the difference between 32 and 64 bit is and has been working on a interm backup solution for the last 2 years [18:05] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:05] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:05] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [18:05] agentc0re|work: I messed with that too. :P [18:06] xsamurai are you in a position to bitchx loudly to the board? [18:06] we have 12tb of data running on prayers [18:06] fire|bird: in plugins there is "conversation colors" [18:06] slackware directory i keep synced with -current is 813mb without KDE. [18:06] Quiznos: just an admin [18:06] then send emails [18:06] agentc0re|work: yup, messed with those too, even tried disabling them. [18:06] Quiznos: hell no, its a club of idiots , i'd get canned before the r'tards do [18:06] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-67-192.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:06] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-67-192.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Client Quit [18:07] fire|bird: what about the gtk theme control? [18:07] xsamurai then bx and quit; call it a ship of rats [18:07] and set it on fire. [18:07] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left irc: "leaving" [18:07] btw if you've seen office space and most of you have, the CFO talks and walks exactly like the main manager [18:07] LOL [18:07] heh; pointyheaded fo0l? [18:07] he walks by my desk and says the exact same thing 'Yeaaaaaaah about that script' [18:07] uhm, yeah, uhm [18:07] errrrks me soooo bad [18:07] lol [18:08] and he's holding a coffee mug as well [18:08] ooo i know [18:08] does it say, "world's best boss"? [18:08] bx to bamer!!! [18:08] he'll fix the wagon [18:08] i sure am glad i am not a cube rat in an office [18:09] i would quit but with this crappy job market no thanks, i can spend all the time in the world doing my own stuff [18:09] does it make sense to start a remote hosting site "with benefits"? [18:09] agentc0re|work: Hmm, well, I can change the things I want there, but doesn't seem like it has taken affect. It's like it's stuck on random nick color somewhere. [18:09] It changed my nick color though [18:09] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.36) left irc: [18:09] fire|bird: try restarting pidgin. [18:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8_Kfjo3VjU this is pretty normal at my office [18:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [18:09] agentc0re|work: yup, just going to. brb [18:10] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill"). [18:10] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-67-192.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:10] xsamurai: good call about not quitting [18:10] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-67-192.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Client Quit [18:10] ok; who wants to laf at my expense? (one time offer!!!) [18:10] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Leaving." [18:10] i have so many stories at this work place, if it wasnt illegal to record these monkeys i would so put it on youtube [18:10] Quiznos: but.. we do it all the time [18:11] not like this [18:11] finally naked pictures of Quiznos [18:11] xsamurai: tell us a story :P [18:11] nop [18:11] lets see em [18:11] well google sammich [18:11] you went like so? rm -rf / [18:11] xsamurai: record it anyway and use an alternative like liveleak just dont use your real name & address with the account [18:11] still havent seen a affirmative answer yet [18:11] no not that [18:11] Freedom_Linux (n=julio@200.165.138.65) joined ##slackware. [18:12] malo (n=quassel@71.15.148.153) joined ##slackware. [18:12] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [18:12] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left irc: Client Quit [18:12] algum brazuca aki no canal que esteja no canal slackware-br? [18:12] cant we get an interpreter in here? [18:12] here here [18:12] Freedom_Linux pretend to write english pls :) [18:12] ScreamerX (n=screamer@85.124.99.31) joined ##slackware. [18:12] heh [18:13] he cant aget help in -br? [18:13] deco: one time the crappy watchguard fw they have went down and the windows admin (guy doesnt know shit about networking but he's incharge of the fw and usually drunk at work go figure). This guy starts screaming at the top of his lungs O SHIT O SHIT , we go HACKED MF THIS MF THAT [18:13] Freedom_Linux: que necesita voce ? [18:13] habla english ?\ [18:13] uniglots only in ##Slackware [18:13] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-182-44.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [18:13] so i was like dude check the fw, he was like F no man, its an attack, everything is down [18:13] deco, fui banido do canal slackware-br e nao sei qual foi o motivo [18:14] Freedom_Linux: hmmm aqui no mas hablan en ingles... [18:14] he ran around with the IT security lady and started screaming at each other in god knows what language [18:14] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [18:14] i have an installation question might anyone be able to help [18:14] xsamurai heh [18:14] fire|bird: since pidgin is GTK based, i would think that the way it looks is also going to depend on your current GTK theme. if you look on gnome/kde-look.org there are some themes for pidgin. IE: http://samuelhaddad.com/2008/02/16/sick-of-pidgins-look-and-feel/ [18:14] i ran off to the bathroom laughing to tears for a good 5 minutes [18:14] malo: of course [18:14] malo dont ask for permission [18:14] xsamurai lol [18:14] xsamurai: what was the real problem? [18:14] agentc0re|work: Hey, this is better. [18:14] i need a vpn client but there is no kvpnc anymore!!! any idea? [18:14] fw was down [18:14] agentc0re|work: Thanks for the help [18:14] deco, sory but i don't write in english [18:14] lol [18:14] crappy watchguard , i hate that piece of crap [18:15] Freedom_Linux we are uniglots only :) [18:15] durning the partioning i keep geting a message that says cant write to disk [18:15] ok [18:15] malo new disk? [18:15] i can make a better one for $150 and openbsd kick major pkt booty [18:15] heh [18:16] xsamurai: that's creazy [18:16] no im runing a small windows partion and a primary mandriva the disk is around three or four [18:16] k [18:16] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "peace" [18:16] more detail then [18:16] Freedom_Linux: says he got banned from slackware-br and he doesn't know the reason [18:16] fire|bird: go ahead and say... I'm da MAN! [18:16] You da man. :P [18:16] s/say/say it [18:16] anyone gonna ask -br? [18:16] No no, You da man!! :P [18:16] ask if he's a pest? [18:17] Quiznos: too lazy :P [18:17] ScreamerX (n=screamer@85.124.99.31) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:17] which? [18:17] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [18:17] ask or ask? [18:17] maybe its time to learn english [18:17] have him join ##Linux [18:17] maybe it's time to learn some sed! [18:17] enrish! [18:17] engrish [18:18] malo not yet; provide more public detail [18:18] malo (n=quassel@71.15.148.153) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:19] malo (n=quassel@71.15.148.153) joined ##slackware. [18:20] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.26.243) joined ##slackware. [18:20] that is everything..everything runs smoothly until partionind and i get the simple message can not write to disk... [18:20] can you fdisk manwilly? [18:20] no [18:20] why? [18:21] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.173.36.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [18:21] cant run it from this distro and when i try with the slack disk i get nothing [18:21] agentc0re|work: see, much better: http://imagebin.org/64737 ;) [18:21] what dist? [18:21] Mandriva [18:21] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [18:22] if you cant be productive in one dist, then dump it and move on [18:22] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) joined ##slackware. [18:22] Freedom_Linux: la gente de aqui no sabe la rason hmmmm [18:22] thats why i ran away from windows and im trying to get away from this man... [18:22] then pick another dist already [18:22] Action: deco hates wireless phones makes my internet go down [18:23] deco , yo tambien no [18:23] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:23] the people in here dont understand reason what???????? [18:23] deco (n=deco@69.108.88.254) joined ##slackware. [18:23] malo we only know what you write. [18:23] deco , yo nunca entrei en lo slackware-br [18:23] i was talkin about what deco said [18:23] Freedom_Linux: oh mmmmm [18:23] but why should you be limited bc you cant do something reasonable in a dist? does it matter which you use? [18:23] use what works [18:24] my cat is a sissy, every time a thunderstorm moves through she runs and hides either under the bed or in the closet [18:24] lol [18:24] Freedom_Linux: said he has never been to slackware-br and is banned ,,, [18:24] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:24] deco a domain ban [18:24] or dhcp ip ban and he ended up with not so loved ip [18:24] nods [18:24] ok ill tell him [18:24] or its his nick [18:24] deco [18:25] someone else on same IP block is probably banned [18:25] xsamurai: what ? [18:25] let quizno practice his spanish [18:25] xsamurai: it's not spanish [18:25] deco could be x.y.z.* ban [18:25] la gente de aqui no sabe la rason [18:25] looks like spanish to me [18:25] bs [18:25] lol [18:25] liar :) [18:25] portuguese and spanish are similer [18:26] yea [18:26] xsamurai that's too funi [18:26] we can guess the reason [18:26] xsamurai: the language of brazil is portuguese not spanish [18:26] fire|bird: Hei dounot ceract my enrish! [18:26] malo (n=quassel@71.15.148.153) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:26] yes....i've watched dora [18:26] lol [18:27] agentc0re|work: hahaha [18:27] very similar [18:27] my mini-sammichs are gonna be luddites [18:27] lol [18:27] fire|bird: sexy new pidgin. :D And look, my nick doesn't blend in with the background anymore.. you'd better fix that. :P [18:27] stay in here an learn english :D [18:27] agentc0re|work: How'd your skydiving go the other day? [18:27] and i know brazil very well, from its soccer balls to its lovely mellon'd women [18:27] lol [18:27] fire|bird: awesome dude. Got my license yesterday and pulled off 4 jumps. [18:27] all the GOOD words...:D...get him cussin' like a sailor...:D [18:27] awesome, Congrats. :) [18:27] you need permission to attempt suicide? ew [18:28] thanks. [18:28] Quiznos: No, just to attempt it other than where i learned how to. [18:28] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.196) left irc: "Leaving" [18:28] but still; ew [18:28] xsamurai: XUXA [18:28] permision? [18:28] you're ew! [18:28] just fake your own death and obtain a new identity [18:28] that's not the pernt [18:29] Action: fire|bird pushes Quiznos out of a plane with a parachute, Enjoy your flight on Skydive air. ;) [18:29] ty [18:29] tttttyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy [18:29] sorry if i get disconnected a lot this wireless phone is making me mad [18:29] Skydive Slackware. :P [18:30] 64bits 'til it hits the ground...than many bits...:D [18:30] heh [18:30] hahaha! i forgot how stupid this film was... [18:30] Action: vastina wants to hack the gibson [18:30] slackware and bits and bits and bits [18:31] the gui is so sweet [18:31] what happd to the [pt-br guy? [18:31] gibson is so lame [18:31] Their trashing our rights!!! Trashing man!! Trashing our rights!! [18:31] s/their/They're [18:31] did i miss someth? [18:31] Quiznos: Nope. [18:31] k [18:31] nothing at all [18:31] Except... [18:31] x doesnt start normally [18:31] Ah well, nevermind. [18:31] here [18:31] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-182-44.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:33] agentc0re|work: He won't miss what he doesn't know. ;) [18:33] a-ha! i knew it [18:33] ther is someth i mised [18:34] Nope.. not at all. [18:34] Quiznos: yes [18:34] you lie [18:34] two ppl in here proclaimed their love for you [18:34] No seriously, nothing. [18:34] heh [18:34] Well i missed that one. [18:34] xsamurai: Those poor people, they must be blind and deaf. :/ [18:34] agentc0re|work: or did you..... [18:34] fire|bird: and a vegetable. [18:35] lol [18:36] Hey!!! any guy who's scree name represents an oven toasted bun with mouth watering beef cant be that bad [18:36] lol [18:36] ty [18:36] ppl here are always confessing their undying-hunger to me [18:36] lol [18:36] and for .50c you can fill quiznos up with all the cheese those buns can hold [18:37] Quiznos is cheap and tasty [18:37] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-34-93.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:37] Quiznos: yup, and then they get a Subway Sub and then that undying hunger for you is gone. :P [18:37] thats ok; they always come back for more [18:37] Nick change: Freedom_Linux -> juliomelo [18:38] fire|bird: have you ever had Quiznos buns ? [18:38] nope, and when you put it that way, I don't want to. :P [18:38] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] PLZ help me ... im so stupid to download from cisco page for the vpn client any other link, which is not so complicated with hundert times secured linkss? [18:39] inman: you lost me at PLZ [18:39] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@nc6521bbe.cns.vt.edu) left irc: "Leaving." [18:39] what?! [18:39] i was lost at ":" [18:39] Ok, that didn't make any sense, inman please rephrase that. [18:39] me @... [18:39] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.173.36.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:39] heh [18:39] Quiznos: you're always lost. :P [18:40] liar [18:40] just the line in the sauce [18:40] i need a link, just only one link which i can use to download cisco vpn client. [18:40] oops, just watch * [18:40] Quiznos is so lost, even GPS can't find em.....or help him. [18:40] kool [18:40] i dont need no steenkeen gps [18:40] Quiznos: radar? sonar? [18:41] tin can and string [18:41] plumb line [18:41] but nut cisco's self link, they r 10000000 times secured! i cant use them! [18:41] ahhh..old school..:D [18:41] someone put the mark of the beast on him and plant a tracking device in his left butt cheek. no tin foil hat will save him now! [18:41] homing pigeon? [18:41] heh [18:41] Urchlay !! [18:41] Quiznos: nope, you sure don't. It wouldn't help you. It'd say "You are Here", You'd say "Yup, sure am" and then toss it away. [18:41] Quiznos [18:41] fbird lol [18:41] fries|scrub [18:41] inman: Okay, what are you trying to accomplish here? What do you want or need to do? [18:41] people these days and gps!, when that thing says right they turn right without looking , must obey or i'll die [18:41] er, fire|bird [18:41] that's called an X [18:41] y0 freshest|configurable [18:41] er, Urchlay [18:42] butt|face [18:42] links to download CISCO VPN CLIENT!!!!! [18:42] No need to SHOUT. ;) [18:42] inman: this is not cisco [18:42] too bad no GPS has the "avoid roads with damn speed humps every 100 feet" option [18:42] its the slackware channel, its a place to discuss why everybody wants Quiznos buns [18:42] what is not sicso? [18:43] inman google "cisco vpn client" and pick the "download" anchor [18:43] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.26.243) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:43] inman: So are you wanted to see it or use it? I am confused by what you said earlier by wanting to "watch it". [18:43] inman: plus there are alternatives to that software. [18:43] inman: We are not cisco! [18:43] gut ask for an hour for kvpnc [18:43] inman: do you own cisco hardware? [18:44] mingdao (n=mingdao@116.53.168.126) joined ##slackware. [18:44] inman google "cisco vpn client" and pick the "download" anchor [18:44] and no one answered me! so i thought that was not good Q. [18:44] we did answer [18:44] inman: your hardware, be cisco it is? [18:45] (try's in his language) [18:45] i found cisco! but i cant use the links there! and as i ask any links or any idea for a diff software which do the same as cisco [18:45] inman google "cisco vpn client" and pick the "download" anchor [18:47] avoid swine flu vaccine; it causes h1n1 [18:47] last time i checked, you couldn't simply download the official cisco vpn client [18:47] the body identifies it as foreign toxins [18:47] quiznos: 1st im registerd there! it was the fucking registration ever, you should have a pas wiht bot A and a and with a nummber and it should be 8 charachter, i did that. and should feel all of the section there, so i did that. tanx god i was cisco user, i thought [18:48] inman i think i should say "yw" but i'm not sure :) [18:48] hahahaha, fortune: Love ain't nothin' but sex misspelled. [18:48] lol [18:48] fire|bird: LOL [18:48] inman: Call cisco. [18:48] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left irc: Client Quit [18:49] xsamurai (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving." [18:49] what came after, u start to download and after while as ur loged in ur status changed to guest! and no u should confirmed 100 thing to tell him you dont wann bomb America!!! with tiny vpn client! [18:50] Action: agentc0re|work phones HLS [18:50] Quiznos: it wasn't his nick so i guess i'ts the IP thing you mentioned... [18:50] lol [18:50] "i see his fingers moving but i have no idear what he's saying" [18:50] deco ok [18:50] lol [18:50] fire|bird roflmao [18:50] misquoting Alice in Wonderland. [18:50] inman, which version of slackware are you running? [18:50] sw 13 [18:50] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:51] damn, we almost had a reason to kick him [18:51] lol [18:51] almost doesn't count, unfortunately. :P [18:51] :) [18:51] then let's wrap a hoseshoe around his neck :) [18:51] horse [18:51] lol [18:52] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:55] hey not to sure it anyone remebers me but i had a question about my video driver on slackware before.. sorry for logging to abruptly but i was in a lecture when i came on irc and i didnt feel like sticking around for some other lol [18:55] but yeah like i said prior im getting lag when resizing windows :S [18:55] mentr (n=Hey@195-240-212-157.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Client Quit [18:55] using the propietary from of the ati website.. card = radeon hd 4550 , and not sure if its a big problem but just incase felt liek asking [18:56] do ask in other chans too [18:56] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:57] macius: you might be missing some key options in your xorg.conf for ATI that help improve 2d rendering. i would google some keywords along those lines. ati has a wiki for that stuff too i think. [18:57] alrigth :S no but someone mentioned just grab radeom hd im assumign thats a package from the slackbuild respository is not how would i come accross getting it :S [18:57] alright [18:57] will do that then [18:57] macius: No. radeonhd is a kernel driver, along with radeon. [18:58] i have compiz enabled tho right but whats happening to me insent normal even while having that feature? [18:58] macius: you can rerun(or run) xorgsetup as root and find it that way. there are three drivers i think, ati, radeon and radeonhd. all opensource drivers. [18:58] hm [18:58] disable compiz to find out. [18:58] yeah if i diable it its fine [18:58] buy nvidia : [18:59] but would rather have it running [18:59] superGear: :P exactly what i thought but just bought a car so dont have money to waste atm lol [18:59] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [19:00] bleah. Frigging rain. Roads all flooded... [19:00] superGear++ [19:00] go swimming [19:00] go for a walk Urchlay [19:00] Urchlay: enough to go tubing down the street? if so, youtube it! :D [19:00] lol [19:01] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.109.52) joined ##slackware. [19:01] agentc0re|work: just a quick question about the radeonhd driver im assuming theres a high chance of that killing my computer since i've expierced it many times with other distro's how would i come by removing the driver if that would happen? and i should delete my current driver right? or would it overwrite it [19:01] unless the water's nasty...then hulu it..:D [19:02] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:03] macius, how would it kill your computer? [19:03] lol well caused xorg not to run [19:03] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:03] causing* [19:03] :P [19:03] that's hardly killed... [19:04] well yeah but it invovles me figuring out how to come by fixing it since creating a blank xorg.conf didnt work in the past :S [19:04] lol [19:04] meh w.e ill try it then [19:04] wait [19:04] ty for the help tho [19:04] or [19:04] o [19:04] Channel flood from macius -- kicking [19:04] alright* [19:04] macius kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:04] X -configure [19:04] bastard [19:05] properly killing a system for me usually involves fire and some form of blunt trauma to me and the system [19:05] nods [19:05] same here [19:05] i have to smell someth [19:06] "it looks like her hips farted fabric" lol [19:06] someone noobfarm that [19:06] ... what?! lol [19:06] hrmm? [19:07] tvguide's fashion niestas commenting on emmy show gowns [19:07] well if he comes back, he needs to be told to man all those drivers. [19:07] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.81) joined ##slackware. [19:07] the quot re what's his name hwo has the ABC night show [19:08] ex-gf sarah [19:08] jimmy Kimmel? [19:08] yea [19:09] sarah wore a big blue poofy gown [19:09] and that quot above was from the tvguide fashion guy commenting on it [19:10] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:11] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:12] haha, fortune: "Your sister swims out to meet troop ships" [19:13] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: "Real_Life();" [19:13] mean [19:13] test34 (n=test34@c-69-244-245-20.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:14] rd5 (n=rds@189.111.164.142) left irc: "Saindo" [19:14] willca (n=willca@67.171.42.234) joined ##slackware. [19:15] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:16] bbl [19:16] fix the coffee [19:17] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] greetings and salutations [19:17] greetings,andarius [19:18] salutations MLanden [19:19] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [19:19] macius (n=macius@i209-195-120-203.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:20] SQlvpapir (n=teis@188.177.95.62) joined ##slackware. [19:21] greetings andarius, how are you? [19:21] i always liked a girl with entheusiasm [19:22] this digium gear is fscking expensive [19:22] salutations fire|bird, well. you? [19:22] andarius: Excellent, thank you. Just configuring xfce. [19:22] john_dee (n=id@93-81-119-114.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [19:23] hello happy slackers [19:23] hey LnxSlck [19:23] take care,slackers...take with all later [19:23] hy fire|bird [19:23] see ya ML [19:23] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-153-100.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [19:23] guys, any answer for my Q? - cisco - [19:23] petterah (n=petter@static243-165-178.adsl.no) left irc: "Leaving" [19:23] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] LnxSlck: songbird isn't working for me. Could not initialize GStreamer: Error re-scanning registry , child terminated by signal [19:24] fire|bird, oh i have a fix for that [19:24] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.34.225) joined ##slackware. [19:24] LnxSlck: awesome. Mind sharing? :) [19:24] fire|bird, to bad it's in my other pc.. [19:24] haha [19:24] fire|bird, it's something like SB_GS=1 .songbird [19:25] inman: what was yor cisco question? [19:25] LnxSlck: cool. I'll do a little googling. Thanks. [19:25] fire|bird, it just tells songbird to use gstreamer [19:26] LnxSlck: Also, googling, removing libvisual-plugins fixes it. :) [19:26] dhw (n=dhw@unaffiliated/dhw) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:26] fire|bird, that didn't work for me [19:27] ok [19:28] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:29] fire|bird, try with SB_GST_SYSTEM=1 ./songbird [19:29] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-13-152.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:30] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.185) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:30] agentc0re|work: Quiznos: fire|bird: i read ur ANSWERS ! I appreciate ur aptitude to kidding me, as im probably engaged to find out a solution for an issue! but i don't believe this channel is for that, or i have those clown's nose! [19:30] LnxSlck: Ah, there we go. thanks. [19:30] fire|bird, =) [19:32] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [19:33] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.16) joined ##slackware. [19:34] does kopete in kde 4.2.4 supports irc? [19:34] I dont see it listed [19:34] no [19:36] dissociative: With kde4, irc support in kopete was removed. [19:36] firedix (n=firedix@host12.201-252-148.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [19:37] hm [19:37] not that I would ever use kopete, but why would that happen? [19:37] has konversation made a kde-4.x build ??? [19:37] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-432935.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:37] konversation has been a hell of a lot better irc client than kopete anyway [19:38] Urchlay: Well, what I've read is because there's konversation, and many other irc clients out there. Personally I think it's stupid, but I'm not a dev. :P [19:38] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:38] Elektro (n=elektro@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [19:38] kopete = talks to many different IM-type networks? [19:38] Pig_Pen: konversation works fine here with kde4 [19:38] there ya go dissociative, build konversation [19:38] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:38] Urchlay: yup, think pidgin only kde-ish. The feature set is a bit different. [19:39] I built konversation 1.2 a6 [19:39] in that case, having even a limited IRC client would be useful, if you actually use all those different networks (same client to chat with everyone, even IRC junkies) [19:39] ah, but it's in beta 1 now. I got behind. :/ [19:40] Urchlay: yeah, I googled it some and there's a number of people not happy about it being removed. [19:40] altho... there are various proxies, like bitlbee to let you use an IRC client to talk to gtalk/msn/whatever (you'd use one that goes the other way around for kopete I guess) [19:40] haha, I guess I'm alright, beta 1 just came out today. :P [19:41] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [19:41] Hi! [19:41] dissociative (n=dissocia@190.71.34.225) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:41] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-72.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:41] Hello [19:41] I am currently making a perl 5.10.1 package for slackware which fixes the unknown error bug [19:41] there's a guy I know who uses windows + yahoo chat, he's able to talk to me on IRC without actually having an IRC client... [19:41] if anyones interested. [19:42] briareus (n=briareus@mayo-nat2.mayo.edu) joined ##slackware. [19:42] weee-yerd. [19:42] fatalnix: write & post a slackbuild [19:42] That's strange [19:42] fatalnix: eh, which bug? (I haven't heard about this, tho I'm definitely a perl fan...) [19:43] Pid_Pen, I did, thats how I'm making it :D [19:43] I looked it up on slackwiki [19:43] goodboy leroy [19:43] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-178.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:44] gotta a Q, peeps: I usually boot init3, start X manually. But lately I've been goofing about with init4 slim. The problem I have is that when doing so, I can't seem to drop to tty from X. I see the tty, its noninteractive, and after a few seconds it goes back to X (as if ALT+F7) [19:45] Who is Leroy? [19:45] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:45] briareus: That's because Slackware disables all but one console login in runlevel 4. [19:45] briareus: That console is f6. [19:45] adamk_: I read something about that in /etc/inittab when making the change [19:45] ;3~ [19:45] briareus: You can, of course, edit /etc/inittab to change this behaviour. [19:46] ok, so I can get tty in X [19:46] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] er um [19:46] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.109.52) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:46] Thus, there is now one getty opened on tty6. Hopefully no one [19:46] # will notice. ;^) [19:46] haha [19:46] Absolutely.. Just use control+alt+f6, or edit /etc/inittab to have agetty running on other consoles. [19:47] nositelicense (n=nositeli@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:47] I'm not sure how I would alter that line, adamk_ [19:47] x1:4:respawn:/etc/rc.d/rc.4 [19:47] that one ^ [19:47] it just built and created atxz successfully, however I fixed a small problem in my script, so, im going to see if my config is all set once this is done building, and in the meantime ill look on slackbuilds.org [19:47] I would like init4 and more than one tty [19:48] define your own with init 5 [19:48] (running more than one tty is why I tend to start X manually, but I kinda like slim) [19:48] # These are the standard console login getties in multiuser mode: [19:48] briareus: That's not the line to edit. [19:48] ^^ Yeah, what he's saying. [19:48] find that in /etc/inittab [19:49] mrselfpwn: I see that line, but what do I do with it? [19:49] then c1-c6 add 4 where it's not located already and you want a getty [19:49] ah [19:49] c5:1235:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux [19:49] to [19:49] you will see c6 has 12345 the others only 1235 [19:49] c5:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux [19:49] correct [19:49] (for whatever getties) [19:49] that means in runlevel 4 it will get agetty [19:50] got it? [19:50] thanks [19:50] alphad64 (n=alphad@41.189.39.186) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:50] donito (n=dshuff@cpe-98-28-236-72.woh.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [19:50] c4 = console login 4, c6 = console login 6 [19:50] so if I wanted say, 3 getties, I could just edit c1-c3 and add the 4 [19:51] cierto? [19:51] you don't want to edit c2 because slim and X use it. [19:51] oh [19:51] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:51] i used to have my uniq inittab [19:51] mrselfpwn: and c1 is for linux single? [19:52] c1 i leave alone as well because it gives your output, though you can put agetty on that one as well. [19:53] I just did c3-c6. I don't think I need more than that many [19:53] then you arent trying [19:53] I run terminals on the desktop too [19:53] Quiznos: oh, baby, I've had many [19:53] heh [19:53] i'm a guy; zip it up [19:54] irssi, root, tcpdump, mplayer -vo caca, links (et cetera) [19:54] if there was a time to bring up #slackofftopic it is now [19:54] nah [19:54] bittin_ (i=bittin@anapnea.net) left ##slackware. [19:54] links -g briareus [19:55] if you have fb support [19:55] (waits for the obligatory line where Quiznos plugs his namesake by telling us he's hung like the same) [19:55] i know what would be an easy fork (maybe) is xfce's panel, there have been a few not so great implementations of stand alone panels for Linux WMs = PyPanel and GTKpanel, what if someone just stripped the panel out of xfce so all it was is just a panel to be used in other WMs like openbox, fluxbox & etc [19:55] mrselfpwn: oh yeah, -g [19:55] bittin___ (i=bittin@anapnea.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:56] jeopardy guest answered "42" lol [19:56] Pig_Pen: I'd like that [19:56] good guess [19:56] and i got the right answer [19:56] alex dint get the 42 ans [19:57] actually you didn't phrase it in the form of a question. [19:57] i did [19:57] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-178.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [19:57] in ##Politics [19:57] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-237-80.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:57] and Pig_Pen i think i can do it [19:57] esoteric (n=esoteric@c-67-186-216-208.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "Changing server" [19:58] habaneros (n=habanero@71.250.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:59] probably just a library and the panel binary itself, maybe the gtk theme engine too [19:59] because running xmonad with some incorrect settings in xfce allowed me to move my panel bar and xfce was controlling it [19:59] yeah probably gtk [19:59] mrselfpwn: adamk_ thanks for the knowledge-base.. [19:59] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:59] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [20:01] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:01] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [20:01] a stand alone panel with a clock, taskbar, and lauchers for a few basic apps would be plenty, does not even need a menu [20:01] bmpanel is nice. [20:02] bmpanel? never heard of it, i gotta check it out, i guess freshmeat has info on it [20:02] It has a clock, not sure if it can have launchers. [20:02] tint2 is best :) [20:04] wow! if i disapear it is because the thunderstorm blowing through just killed the power [20:04] ok [20:04] sirslacker (n=root@p579B5616.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [20:04] kthxbai [20:04] WooHoo! thunder & lightning very very frightning! [20:04] see, that's what i mean [20:04] tundar [20:05] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@173-18-63-179.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [20:06] juliomelo (n=julio@200.165.138.65) left irc: "Saindo" [20:07] i meant to say *xmonad was controlling it. not xfce [20:07] MrHales (n=MrHales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [20:08] there, konversation 1.2 b1 is built. [20:09] Anybody use the Slack 12.2 SBo install of wine (1.1.17) and have issues with HTML rendering? [20:09] i dont need wine tho [20:09] what's your prob? [20:11] Pig_Pen is gone [20:11] Not my problem, my buddy's. Gets an error on attempting to install a game in wine. Wine says it needs gecko engine (and offers to download/install) in order to do HTML rendering for the license agreement. [20:11] MrHales: yes, to an extent. [20:11] MrHales do so [20:11] yes let it install it [20:11] unless your friend is a serious eula-phobic :) [20:12] Install appears to silently fail.... [20:12] Progress bar appears, fills a bit, vanishes. [20:12] can you garner any info? [20:12] i use the winetricks script [20:12] Working on it. Please hold. *Muzak blares out of Mr.Hales' bum* [20:12] MrHales do you think it's a malloc prob? [20:13] compiling now, modified to be standards compliant for slackbuilds.org [20:13] I used winetools... had no issues. [20:13] http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks [20:15] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:17] Slackware package /tmp/perl-5.10.1-i486-1_bah.txz created. [20:18] :D:D:D! [20:18] yay [20:18] lets see if I can install it [20:18] I hope I wasnt wrong for using ./Configure -Dprefix=/usr [20:18] anyone use gnome with slackware ? [20:18] ew! [20:18] gnome voids your warranty you know, whats the problem? [20:19] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:19] no but gnomes use slackware [20:19] not yet; x is kinda dead here [20:19] Package perl-5.10.1-i486-1_bah.txz installed. [20:19] yay [20:19] perl --version... [20:19] This is perl, v5.10.1 (*) built for i686-linux-multi-64int [20:20] I dont have a 64 bit cpu either :) [20:20] so it works [20:20] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@85.139.203.15) joined ##slackware. [20:20] jee hi [20:20] Hello [20:21] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:22] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:22] holy crap i just realized what /etc/rc.d does [20:22] the slackpkg app is good or if use it i must re-compile everything again ? [20:22] Reticenti: just NOW? :P [20:22] Well, there went Pig_Pen. :P [20:22] Reticenti: boot scripts [20:23] fire|bird: i knew it ahd to do with startup stuff, but I just realized NOW exactly what was going on [20:23] lol [20:23] lo [20:25] hey can u explain me why lilo take so much time to start and grub is faster ? [20:25] more detail pls [20:25] that should be a macro since i write it alot [20:25] what lilo do exacly to taking so much time ? [20:25] yes [20:25] or other evidence [20:28] mine takes ages to do a bios check [20:28] lilo i mean [20:28] lilo does a bios check? [20:28] francisco (n=francisc@187.64.8.48) joined ##slackware. [20:29] Reticenti: it checks everytime it starts slackware , at least that's what it says on the screen [20:29] i00nsu: add a line "compact" to /etc/lilo.conf, in the global section, and see if that speeds up your boot time [20:29] does anyone here know what slim is? [20:29] a login manager [20:30] i am using grub .. but i was curiouse why was so slow [20:30] meh. I'm going to make him install it the way I did. Anyway, later all. [20:30] MrHales (n=MrHales@12.24.239.145) left irc: "http://wwandi.com -- Still not ready for prime time." [20:30] how do i run it instead of command line login? I made the rc script for it, but how do I make that run instead of the text loging? [20:30] s/loging/ log in [20:31] Oo . what do u want to do Reticenti ? [20:31] <[yop]> i am using grub .. but i was curiouse why was so slow | if you crash your os with reiserfs it's normal [20:31] i00nsu: I want to run slim instead of the command line login [20:32] yop /boot/ and / are in ext3 . the /home is reiserfs [20:32] <[yop]> mhmm ok [20:32] shouldnt get any truble .. i hope :) [20:33] Reticenti: dont know what is slim.. [20:33] i00nsu: it's a login manager for X [20:33] Reticenti: you need to edit /etc/inittab to boot to rl4 [20:33] but i gotta go pick up the wife and get alcohol [20:34] ah ok, thanks fire|bird [20:34] You know how to do that? What line to change? [20:34] i can figure it out [20:34] ok, :P [20:34] :) [20:34] actually fire|bird can you login to my copmputer and change it for me? [20:35] /s/copmuter/computer [20:35] =D [20:35] haha [20:35] anways, bbiab [20:35] Action: fire|bird hacks Reticenti's computer and runs rm on everything. :P [20:35] :ohnoes: [20:35] my ow is 12345 [20:35] \pw* [20:36] hey, that's the same combination I use for the air shield, that keeps my planet's atmosphere from being sucked into space! [20:36] No it wasn't. You had ReticentiISGreat [20:36] web31337 (n=edK@94.41.37.38.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:36] azarion (i=anahel@unaffiliated/anahel) joined ##slackware. [20:37] anahel (i=tomek@unaffiliated/anahel) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:37] Nick change: azarion -> anahel [20:37] vukovar (n=vukovar@CPE-121-220-83-97.lnse2.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:38] is any way to get gmail accounts running from a console mail client ? [20:38] fetchmail [20:38] yeah [20:38] Action: Quiznos rulez the questions!!! [20:38] ok thz i will check that :D [20:38] Action: Quiznos strutz [20:38] Action: Quiznos sitz [20:39] fetchmail isn't a cli mail client, it fetch's mail and that's it. [20:39] delivs too [20:39] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:39] Action: Quiznos erases extraneous apo-strophes [20:39] today at work, someone blocked fox news, and they people started complaining...the password was 1234 and nobody guessed it [20:40] haha' [20:40] heh [20:41] and i'm too lazy to go through and unblock such an awful channel [20:41] fox? [20:41] you must allow dissenting opinion. [20:41] othewise you're no better than adolph [20:41] oops; bamer [20:42] i allow it...though i work in the gov, so politics is a bit of a touchy subject [20:42] lolol [20:42] oh man [20:42] got that sword hangin over your head? :) [20:43] errordeveloper (n=errordev@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:43] i keep my eyes closed, i wouldn't know [20:43] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Fui embora" [20:43] ok [20:43] deco (n=deco@69.108.88.254) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [20:43] that "might" help [20:44] in what subdirectory from slackware source fetchmail is? [20:44] google it; not std. [20:45] should we corrupt i00nsu now or let nature do it hapazardly? [20:45] heh [20:45] i vote now [20:45] hey guys [20:45] hi [20:45] Action: edman007 writes google on Quiznos's forehead [20:45] hi [20:46] Action: Quiznos depalms [20:46] n :-) [20:46] Quiznos: do you know where are blackrock and m[something]? [20:46] dont know *rock' more info pls [20:46] wazit [20:46] blackorca [20:46] my mistake [20:46] he left a few ago [20:46] Kamus_H_Zwisch, mars and black rocks are in space [20:46] he :P [20:46] thanks Quiznos [20:47] I'll wait then [20:47] red rocks in Arizona [20:47] mrselfpwn, mars too [20:47] yes indeed [20:47] yw [20:47] !seen blackorca [20:47] the other guy, what is his nick? [20:47] if you got the gas to get there [20:47] the m[something] [20:47] I know, this one is hard [20:48] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) got netsplit. [20:48] sQuEE (n=narya@host212.201-252-27.telecom.net.ar) got netsplit. [20:48] vinnie_ (n=vinnie_@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) got netsplit. [20:48] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) got netsplit. [20:48] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) got netsplit. [20:48] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) got netsplit. [20:48] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-44-58.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) got netsplit. 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I tried ffmpeg -ab 448 -ar 22050 -b 2000 -s 720x576 -target dvd but it still very big [20:50] coffee's cooling for 3rd [20:50] fs-web31337-org (n=ddlord@94.41.37.38.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Client Quit [20:50] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [20:50] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] mencode or ffmpeg [20:51] oh you tried em :) [20:51] oopsie [20:51] he [20:51] what can I use in -target? [20:52] mandvd is a gui app that does some stuff like that Kamus_H_Zwisch [20:52] to keep a good qualty and a low size, he [20:52] duno; i'm just a simple watcher [20:52] thank you mrselfpwn , I will check [20:53] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) returned to ##slackware. [20:54] sQuEE (n=narya@host212.201-252-27.telecom.net.ar) got lost in the net-split. [20:54] vinnie_ (n=vinnie_@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) got lost in the net-split. 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[20:56] hi, im having some weird issued with my rt61pci driver, after i browse a while i get the following phy1: device now idle phy1: Removed STA 00:f1:d2:d5:b8:80 phy1: Destroyed STA 00:f1:d2:d5:b8:80 [20:57] I have to leave something like ping running to put the link active, I've tried iwconfig wlan0 power off, but doesnt seems to work [20:58] is that an aggressive power save mode or something? [20:58] no power saving at all [20:58] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:58] sQuEE (n=narya@host212.201-252-27.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:58] vinnie_ (n=vinnie_@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [20:58] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:58] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] pinnen (i=pinnen@h-44-58.A166.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [20:58] pireau (i=1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [20:58] Hilox (n=Hilox@adsl-152-222-246.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] sinkigobopo (n=sinkigob@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) joined ##slackware. [20:58] why would I want power saving on a desktop machine heh [20:59] Hilox (n=Hilox@adsl-152-222-246.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:59] because desktops take a lot of juice, so why not have them take less when not in use? [20:59] Hilox (n=Hilox@72.152.222.246) joined ##slackware. [21:00] ok nevermind about power saving I'd just like this issue fixed if possible [21:06] error_developer_ (n=errordev@nat65.mia.three.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:06] pthreat: default slackware 13 kernel? [21:07] yes [21:07] is there any system restore applications i can use with slackware. something similar to macs time machine or windows system restore point? i was looking at mondo but couldnt find i slackware 13 version :S [21:07] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [21:07] it's most likely a program causing the issue pthreat [21:08] that you installed unless there is some feature of your card that does that [21:09] it's wireless card correct? [21:09] I like "backintime", macius [21:09] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [21:09] it is incredible simple, but really works [21:09] alright ty ill give it a shot [21:09] there is also another one similar to the mac time machine, but I cant remember [21:10] pthreat (i=be31c52f@gateway/web/freenode/x-nbtwifavyvxksrzh) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [21:10] found it, it is called flyback macius [21:10] there is also another one called timevault, but I never tested it [21:12] lol alright well thank you ill still give backintime a shot tho since that was your first pick [21:12] he [21:12] errordeveloper (n=errordev@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:12] backintime > flyback > timevault, that order :P [21:13] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) joined ##slackware. [21:13] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [21:13] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [21:13] I had to manually restore a windows install back to a previous point using a linux livecd once. [21:13] lol there no slackbuild for it eh? :( lol dwling atm and hopefully ill see a make file [21:14] that was a pain. [21:14] I bet [21:14] a1g_ (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [21:14] get (n=winsucks@unaffiliated/get) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [21:15] how much colors in this mandvd [21:15] hahaha [21:15] why is it wrong for linux to copy DVDs and there's tons of apps for Windows to do so? [21:16] witukind_ (n=witukind@213.49.237.140) joined ##slackware. [21:16] hmm. i'll have to look at flyback. apple's time machine is just great for that task [21:16] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Nick collision from services. [21:16] macius: I use jkwood's script to help me make slackbuilds from source files. It's really easy to use and can be found at; [21:16] Nick change: a1g_ -> a1g [21:16] error_developer_ (n=errordev@nat65.mia.three.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:16] http://www.slaxer.com/myscripts/sbsuite.rb [21:17] seens that mandvd cant do the job, any other ideas? [21:17] Kamus_H_Zwisch: sorry to hear that [21:17] Action: jescis might be exagerating with the word "tons" :\ [21:17] thanks anyway, it can be useful later [21:18] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-34-93.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] yes, i like the menu adding features [21:19] Kamus_H_Zwisch: that who you were looking for? blackorca [21:19] mrselfpwn, yes, why? [21:19] hey, yes :D [21:19] thanks [21:19] hey, blackorca [21:19] Kamus_H_Zwisch, ah, you still need help with that problem? [21:19] remember me? the grub curse bringer? :P [21:19] yes :) [21:19] yeah, I received you pm [21:20] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:20] Kamus_H_Zwisch, mfillpot tested the grub menu.lst file on his machine and found that you need to comment out "savedefault" otherwise it gives you that error 15 [21:21] you are kidding, right? [21:21] Kamus_H_Zwisch, well I didn't test it myself, but that's what he claims worked [21:21] please, kill me [21:21] hahha [21:21] Kamus_H_Zwisch, apparently when the error 15 comes up, it complains about "savedefault" as well [21:21] Kamus_H_Zwisch, she might not have given you the full error message, maybe? [21:21] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [21:21] blackorca: man, she forgot to tell me that she was using lilo [21:21] sure she forgot it :P [21:21] witukind (n=witukind@213.49.243.57) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [21:22] thank you very much blackorca :D [21:22] and thanks to mfillpot too [21:22] Kamus_H_Zwisch, :) well, that will probably get the kernel to boot, but the root= entry might still be wrong [21:22] Kamus_H_Zwisch, and you might need to go back to using root (hd0,0) [21:22] Xires (n=Xires@66.190.79.122) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [21:23] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) left irc: "leaving" [21:23] sirslacker (n=root@p579B5616.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:23] Kamus_H_Zwisch, he told me to show you this: http://pastebin.com/m79988b37 [21:23] inman (n=root@p579B5616.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:24] Anybody have problems compiling slim from slackbuilds.org? I keep getting an error ---> /usr/include/ft2build.h:56:38: error: freetype/config/ftheader.h: No such file or directory [21:24] oh, great [21:24] thank you [21:24] Kamus_H_Zwisch, is she online now? [21:24] replay (n=replay@69.26.224.130) joined ##slackware. [21:25] seens not, blackorca . not in orkut, msn, jabber, irc, twitter or gtalk. [21:25] I will send a sms he [21:25] hehe* [21:25] mingdao (n=mingdao@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [21:25] It looks like the CFLAGS+="$SLKCFAGS" in the slackbuild screw up the inlcude statements [21:25] I'll try neonflux [21:25] neonflux what's the value of slackcfags? [21:25] s/SLKCFAGS/SLKCFLAGS/ [21:25] :) [21:25] typo [21:25] (hopefully a mispseling here) [21:25] ok [21:25] neonflux: i didn't have any trouble [21:26] Slackware package /tmp/slim-1.3.1-x86_64-1_SBo.tgz created. [21:26] ok here too [21:26] hmmm...weird [21:26] Kamus_H_Zwisch, if you run across any more problems, feel free to ask... just ask her to copy and paste the WHOLE error message if she can :) [21:27] get (n=winsucks@82.194.76.212) joined ##slackware. [21:27] blackorca: we all can dream :P [21:27] Nick change: Akuma0n3 -> Akuma [21:27] neonflux: is that a Path error maybe? [21:27] neonflux its value? [21:27] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:27] Akuma (n=Akuma@96.21.131.161) left irc: "So long sukkas!" [21:28] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:28] I can see the include path in the Makefile...but for whatever reason the CFLAGS in the slackbuild are overwriting the values in the Makefile [21:28] make has a noexport opt i think [21:28] and I'm getting errors due to it [21:28] or a makefile kwd [21:28] Akuma (n=Akuma@96.21.131.161) joined ##slackware. [21:28] neonflux: did you grab the entire slim dir ? [21:28] thrice`: yes [21:29] including slim.conf.patch ? [21:29] I initially tried it with sbopkg [21:29] oh, nevermind, unrelated [21:29] same thing with manual compile [21:29] on 13, 32 or 64 bit ? [21:30] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:30] neonflux still waiting on that macro value [21:30] Slackware 13.0 and 32 bit [21:31] it's easier to confess stoopidity ealier than later :) [21:31] lol [21:31] Kamus_H_Zwisch, we also tested to see if setting the root= entry to something wrong would cause grub to give an error, but no the kernel does boot (this is what I thought would happen) [21:31] Kamus_H_Zwisch, so if the kernel doesn't start to boot, it's not the root= entry [21:31] I fixed it...I removed the "CFLAGS+=" statement from the slackbuild and used a hacking sed statement to include the SLKCFLAGS [21:32] thanks for the tip [21:32] anyone here using TLF as a contest logger ? [21:32] ok [21:32] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC308E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:33] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-130-177.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [21:33] Quiznos, can you play or copy DVDs? [21:33] i spose; they do boot [21:33] slacks (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [21:34] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Nick collision from services. [21:34] Nick change: slacks -> |Slacker| [21:35] I practically just did a fresh install of 13.0 and Now I need to find what I need to use commercial DVDs :\ [21:35] define use [21:35] play / copy [21:35] mplayer? [21:35] neonflux: weird that it worked for us though [21:35] mainly to play [21:36] lol, fortune, You are wise, witty, and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of trash. [21:36] lol [21:37] Quiznos, says "No stream found to handle url dvd#1" [21:37] mrselfpwn: yeah, I'm not sure what the issue was [21:37] weird [21:37] Akuma (n=Akuma@96.21.131.161) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [21:37] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-130-177.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [21:38] maybe xine :\ [21:38] k [21:39] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [21:39] Makefile CFLAGS were being overwritten by the slackbuild SLKCFLAGS...and the inlude paths were in the Makefile CFLAGS...not sure why the CFLAGS weren't appended rather then overwritten [21:40] well there is NO other place to name include paths [21:40] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] other than a CINC var and then clfags+= [21:41] Quiznos: true [21:41] what are the inc paths? [21:41] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@85.139.203.15) left irc: "leaving" [21:41] Quiznos: CFLAGS=-Wall -I. -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/freetype2/config -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include [21:41] taken from the Makefile [21:42] It couldn't find the freetype headers [21:42] anything in usr/include is default; try rm'ing them [21:42] oh [21:42] then include [21:42] same with libpng/ and freetype2/config/* [21:43] no, it errored out after it couldn't find the freetype header [21:43] no path in the #include then [21:43] I didn't look into the file that caused the error [21:44] As long as I'm able to easily compile it with SLKCFLAGS I'm ok with it [21:44] k [21:44] but coders need to be flogged for their error :) [21:45] thanks for the help guys :) [21:45] yw [21:45] heh [21:45] Can someone help me understand what git is and how to use a program someone wrote and posted through it [21:45] git is linus' svn/sccs/cvs alternative [21:45] fire|bird: the artwiz fonts are cool. [21:45] apparently more flexible [21:46] i feel like a fucking moron but theres no standard makefiels or anything in this [21:46] firedix (n=firedix@host12.201-252-148.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:46] fire|bird: to use slim, i changed inittab to start at run level 4, now do i have to change rc.4? [21:46] Reticenti nop [21:46] it's a java app so maybe thats why? [21:46] git is a sorage place. you don't run programs from git, you retrieve programs and files from a git repository. [21:46] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.39.200) joined ##slackware. [21:46] mrselfpwn: Yeah, they are. [21:46] Chakravanti: git is a way programmers manage their source code. it is decentralized unlike most other such systems [21:46] Reticenti: Did you add the part from slim's README.Slackware to rc.4? [21:46] Quiznos: so as long as I have a rc.slim in /etc/rc,d, it will start? [21:46] okay, so i have the code then my issue has nothignt o do with git then i gather [21:46] fire|bird: I'l do that now [21:46] but rather how to compile a java app? [21:47] Reticenti: Ok, read it carefully. ;) [21:47] :) [21:47] Chakravanti: if you've managed to get your code, probably not a problem with git, no. [21:48] okay i'm gonna see if i can't help myself on this java bit then [21:48] Reticenti in rc.d/? yu have to call it from anther script; rc.local? or rc.4? [21:48] mrselfpwn: I haven't used them lately, but they are some nice fonts. [21:48] Quiznos: ah, ok [21:48] Skywise (n=noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) joined ##slackware. [21:48] hey peeps [21:48] rc.local?, it's called from rc.4 when you boot to rl4 [21:48] I'm retarded, where's README.SLACK at? [21:49] topdir where you put the tree you downlaoded :) [21:49] with the slim package [21:49] Reticenti: http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.0/system/slim/README.SLACKWARE [21:49] slacks (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [21:49] Nick change: Kamus_H_Zwisch -> Kamus_Away[xi] [21:49] i'm planning building a new server and i'm trying to pick out an fs, theres so many choices but the advantages are far from clear. Anyone have their preferences? [21:49] me, e3 [21:49] everything else is too new or too old :) [21:49] Skywise: I'm using ext4, but some here (quiznos) prefer ext3 because it's old and stable [21:50] nods [21:50] Quiznos: it's ext3, not e3. [21:50] it's juuuuuuuuust right [21:50] Skywise: do you have any specific requirements? [21:50] mke2fs ~= e3 [21:50] yeah, but journaled systems have issues being on raid [21:50] e3 is quite stable [21:50] nooper, nothing other then just have repair tools and easy to manage [21:51] the only prob with e3 is no undelete. [21:51] yeah, but on a raid i use ext2 [21:51] switching to e3 from e2 is easy [21:51] to get journal [21:51] i've also liked reiserfs [21:52] its really good at recovering from an ungraceful shutdown [21:52] here in fla. that feature of e3 gets tested often. no probs yet. [21:52] wtf is e3 [21:52] as far as usage goes, i'll be doing some development on it [21:52] ext3 [21:53] nooper: Quiznos' language for ext3 [21:53] it's a approved contraction [21:53] so mysql and apache will prolly be the heaviest disk usage [21:53] but what about e4? especially since slack seems to default to that on 13.0 [21:53] latest kernel doesnt call it "beta" [21:54] i'm not crazy about the recovery options for ext4 [21:54] what are they? [21:54] slck-o (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) joined ##slackware. [21:54] thats a good question [21:54] k [21:55] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-153-100.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] 5m st:tng [21:55] it has a lot of auto features, but i haven't found good docs on recovering on it [21:55] peek its tools [21:55] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:56] you mean undelete? [21:56] search the lkml [21:56] anyone here a ham radio op/contester ? [21:56] no, undelete isn't an important feature for me [21:56] not me [21:56] ok [21:57] i don't use it as a workstation [21:57] oh recov as in settling the unwrit journal [21:57] Skywise: but how will I undelete when I rm -rf *? [21:57] yeah [21:57] k [21:57] Reticenti if e4 == e3++ then you cant [21:57] Reticenti, you'd reinstall or rewrite [21:57] heh [21:57] ivandi (n=ivandi@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:57] there are methods to recover from an rm [21:58] i'm used to no turning back [21:58] Skywise googl "ext4+features" hit achnor #2 [21:58] traces in proc, right antiwire? [21:58] besides when it comes put putting things on a server, they're never the original or sole copy [21:58] proc? [21:59] Skywise and #3 too [21:59] #3 is detailed [22:00] ext3grep and a lot of time can get you some files back if you rm them [22:00] and if you're worried about that happening you can use shred [22:01] well i can disable journaling with ext4 so, i'll consider it [22:01] after reading those pages? [22:01] antiwire: just recalling one of the older methods http://prefetch.net/blog/index.php/2009/02/25/how-to-undelete-any-open-deleted-file-on-linux-solaris/ [22:02] it just seems like the next progression of ext3 [22:02] more so according to #3 [22:02] MLanden: that's only good for a file that is open but has been deleted [22:02] Skywise note the url [22:02] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:03] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) left irc: "leaving" [22:03] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] granted, none of the features are relevant to me [22:04] rhys (n=rhys@c-67-176-142-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:04] ok [22:04] i dont advise deabling anything [22:04] dis* [22:04] antiwire: ok [22:04] is development of reiserfs over [22:04] duno; dont care for it. bad history [22:05] 11gb [22:06] when trying to reinstall lilo, i get one warning [22:06] but i dont know what the warning is [22:06] no text? [22:06] root@kronos:/etc $ /sbin/lilo [22:06] Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed [22:06] Added Linux * [22:06] Channel flood from Reticenti -- kicking [22:06] One warning was issued. [22:06] Reticenti kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [22:06] Reticenti (n=reticent@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [22:06] heh [22:06] It's just a warning [22:06] Reticenti: you can ignore that [22:06] ok [22:06] Reticenti "lba32 addr assumed [22:06] yea; ignore [22:06] add lba32 to the config if you don't wan tot see that [22:07] alright [22:07] yeah [22:07] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.77.85) left irc: Connection timed out [22:07] what about zfs? [22:07] if i cant start my machine up when i restart, I'm hunting you down :# [22:07] zfs is Solaris, not Linux [22:07] :3 [22:07] another new fs; googl "zfs+features" [22:07] theres a port for it [22:08] but the reason there isn't a direct port is a conflict in licenses [22:08] Reticenti: waaaa [22:08] cry me a river [22:08] lol [22:08] lol [22:08] :'-( [22:08] good luck getting anywhere when you can't boot [22:08] lol [22:08] web31337_ (n=edK@92.50.174.183.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [22:09] slacks (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:09] Nick change: slck-o -> |Slacker| [22:09] Skywise: I have another computer and a few live CDs :P [22:09] we'll just help ya fix that one too [22:09] and /home is on a different partition [22:10] home, home where the packets all roam [22:10] i was thinking about trying to make a fanless sytem in a mini htpc enclosure [22:11] _AnywhereIs_ (n=edK@94.41.37.38) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [22:11] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/sequence-of-the-week-james-holmer-cross_30552/1/ [22:11] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-116.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:11] are there any filesystems with versioning? [22:11] what kind of ver*? [22:11] filenaming? [22:12] thats when you updated a file, instead of just overwriting the old file, it gets renamed file.ext.2 [22:12] ok [22:12] there's probably a certain point where you stop calling that a filesystem and start calling it version control system [22:12] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-98-244-105-92.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] antiwire: Belize,right? [22:13] conceptually, but not in practice [22:13] MLanden: that's in oz [22:13] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-116.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:13] MLanden: would you mind if I asked you location? [22:13] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:14] it's actually off Tasmania [22:14] if I have a desktop, is there any raeson to run rc.pcmcia? [22:14] you know using a vcs to manage configuration files might have potention if the overhead isn't so killer [22:14] no [22:14] no..Chesapeake/Suffolk,mfillpot [22:14] MLanden: same, by chance have you visited or are you part of twuug? [22:15] mfillpot: no [22:15] it would be nice if there was a way to map all the configuration files, configure options, etc in a central config [22:15] Skywise: they call that the registry and we run in fear [22:15] zfs is only usable as fuse module atm [22:15] lol [22:15] yes [22:15] mfillpot: Heard of y'all though [22:15] MLanden: I am in virginia beach, this at least lets me know that other slackers are nearby [22:16] slackers are all over, but you can't spot us cause we don't want you to [22:16] if I have a desktop, is there any reason to run rc.pcmcia? [22:16] oh yeah,mfillpot...'nother one logs in from time to time from Norfolk...some from Richmond as well as Blacksburg...cool to hear [22:16] Reticenti, no there isn't [22:17] not really - unless you have a cardbus pci adapter in your desktop [22:17] just chmod it -x [22:17] mm [22:17] yeah [22:17] Skywise googl "linux filesystems" 3rd anchor [22:17] MLanden: I have become very tired of hearing about mandriva and ubuntu all of the time at the meetings, if you every have an opportunity please stop by [22:17] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:17] yeah,Antiwire...I've got one of their sites up now....beautiful beach [22:18] mfillpot yea, i stopped wearing a sign years ago :) [22:18] mfillpot: will try [22:19] there's a lug here but I've never been to it [22:19] Quiznos: for me it's not necessarily wearing a sign, it is getting the chance to try to help others with the systems and learn something in the process [22:19] nods [22:19] i have met ppl at the bookstore; browsing copm books; i bother them there; [22:19] comp* [22:20] mfillpot: none of them using BSD's? [22:20] web31337 (n=edK@94.41.37.38.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:20] Quiznos: with my lug I show up early waiting for people to show up asking for help, it is a sign, but it helps both parties [22:20] _AnywhereIs_ (n=edK@92.50.174.183.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [22:20] mfillpot sure [22:21] has anyone ever preemptively stepped in between a customer and a retail store sales person? [22:21] antiwire me :) to help tho [22:21] cherife (n=cherife@121.0.29.226) joined ##slackware. [22:21] yeah [22:21] Nick change: _AnywhereIs_ -> Guest30975 [22:21] when a cust didnt obviously know what they were talking about [22:21] MLanden: it is the tidewater unix user's group, we have people running all versions of unix, bsd and linux, but linux primarily takes over during the meetings. [22:21] not to bother the employee tho [22:21] they appreciated the help [22:21] mfillpot: cool [22:21] at Staples [22:22] I've watched retail sales people completely own customers with things they didn't need [22:22] nods [22:22] sometimes I feel bad about letting it go too [22:22] MLanden: if you are interested the meetings are the first thursday of each month over by lake taylor [22:22] mfillpot: cool...i'll try [22:23] ivandi (n=ivandi@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [22:23] MLanden: I guess it is good that I stopped the norf on your logout the other day, thanks for listening [22:23] s/stopped/spotted/ [22:24] i can't imagine what being in a room of linux geeks in person would be like [22:24] mfillpot: true...but could be one who's on the eastern shore or down in carolina since verizon has such a spread [22:24] heh [22:25] Skywise: i envy you [22:25] MLanden: that is why it didn't hurt to ask [22:25] Skywise: it is full of bickering and people showing off their newest linux based smartphones [22:25] drijen (n=drijen@pool-71-96-8-249.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:26] i imagine the scent of cheetoes and stinky feet waft thru the air [22:26] mfillpot: right [22:26] lol [22:27] actually we like showing off new projects and apps that we come across, I'm still waiting to give the PXE base multidistro installer/bootable utility servers [22:27] i as thinkign about using pxe for a cluster i'm putting together [22:28] but i don't know if i want to setup a server to setup myserver, etc... [22:28] habaneros (n=habanero@71.250.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:28] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] Skywise: it can definately help with headless systems [22:28] if I do modprobe -r does that stop that module from getting loaded next time I reboot? [22:28] no [22:28] ok so my slackbuild is pretty much built, I will see about putting this up on slackbuilds [22:28] so i need to edit rc.modules to stop them from loading? [22:29] yea [22:29] mmk [22:29] yeah, just comment it out [22:29] or chmod the file [22:29] well, i do want some modules [22:29] i don't even use modules since i make custom kernels [22:29] but i dont need things like bluetooth or pcmcia [22:29] you can make your own rc.modules.local which will take priority [22:29] with not other changes needed. [22:29] i'll use modules to try new stuff out sometimes [22:29] not/no [22:29] but its hardly saves time [22:30] Skywise: hardly saves time still = saves time :P [22:31] Action: MLanden testing altgr key père lâit..cool [22:31] hmm [22:32] rc.modules already has the ones I dont ant commented out :\ [22:32] s/ant/want [22:32] Reticenti: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [22:32] do I need to edit rc.modules- ? [22:33] for what? [22:33] nvm, i'll use the blacklist [22:33] k [22:33] Reticenti: read this: grep rc.modules /etc/rc.d/rc.S -C5 [22:34] then look at the symlinking done in /etc/rc.d/ [22:36] ah, it's reading rc.modules-smp [22:36] hmm, but bluetooth is still commented out [22:37] welp, time to go to the black list [22:37] do you need bluetooth support? [22:37] no [22:37] no bluetooth things in my house [22:37] are the bluetooth scripts chmod -x? [22:37] yeah [22:38] oh, it's in init.d [22:38] if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.bluetooth ]; then sh /etc/rc.d/rc.bluetooth start [22:38] goota love cat | grep [22:39] gotta* [22:39] illegal use of cat detected [22:39] grep can read files on its own [22:39] you'd wanna use cat for proc i'd think but no where else [22:40] cat * | grep bluetooth is wrong? [22:40] it's pointless [22:40] Reticenti: grep bluetooth * [22:40] just use grep [22:41] grep bluetooth * [22:41] ahh, nice [22:41] damn it [22:41] much nicer [22:41] Reticenti: or you can use the -i flag if you are unsure about cases used [22:41] grep * bluetooth -i ? [22:42] grep -i bluetooth * [22:42] ok [22:42] Reticenti: grep -i bluetooth *, and don't forget that it can also go recursive with -r [22:42] ah cool [22:42] I love recursion [22:44] Reticenti: using the case insersative and recursive flags with grep is how I am able to quickly find the sources of problems or appropriate error logs [22:44] ah [22:45] so, to find errors in /var/log/messages, the correct way would be to "grep ssh /var/log/messages" ? [22:45] (for ssh messages) [22:45] rubick (n=rc@unaffiliated/rubick) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:46] Reticenti: yes [22:46] ok [22:48] vinnie_ (n=vinnie_@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090115, built on: 2009/03/07 00:45:02 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/" [22:51] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:51] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:51] is everyone sleeping? [22:51] yep [22:52] so be quiet [22:52] andarius: lol [22:53] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:53] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:55] artv61 (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [22:55] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:56] I have an older compaq P4 2.8ghz here that refuses to turn itself off. [22:56] At the end of the shutdown process it says 'System halted' [22:56] p4'a > 1GHz? [22:56] hiptobecubic: change the bios settings [22:57] I tried appending acpi=force to no avail. [22:57] mfillpot: bios settings.... hmmmmmm you may be right [22:57] alisonken1home: what? [22:58] hiptobecubic: on the systems that I have had that issue on I had to change the shutdown parameter in the bios [22:58] mfillpot: i'll check on it. thanks for the heads up [22:58] I was just wondering since I mixed up P4 with 486 :) [22:59] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] alisonken1home: haha. yes those aren't quite the same [22:59] Well i'm off to bed. Thanks again mfillpot [23:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Client Quit [23:00] errordeveloper (n=errordev@nat67.mia.three.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:01] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: ""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --Winston Churchill" [23:01] cherife (n=cherife@121.0.29.226) left irc: "leaving" [23:01] I am uploading my perl 5.10.1 slackbuild to my website [23:02] fatalnix: hey, what's the bug you were talking about, that your build fixes? [23:02] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@173-18-63-179.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [23:04] bolide_ (i=1000@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] bolide (i=1000@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:06] take care,slackers...talk with y'all later [23:06] night MLanden [23:06] http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/sad/1385943539.html [23:06] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-153-100.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving." [23:06] interesting [23:06] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-108-86.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [23:06] "Shutting down business running Ponzi shemes -Running and jumping at superhuman speeds" [23:06] DeeeeP (n=me@bl8-108-86.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:07] anrxc (n=anrxc@adsl-75-35-96-155.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] anrxc (n=anrxc@adsl-75-35-96-155.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:07] lol [23:08] vukovar (n=vukovar@CPE-121-220-83-97.lnse2.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: [23:08] dimm0k (n=dimm0k@pool-71-183-182-80.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:08] hrm, not bad at all: Mem: 8073 424 7648 0 31 133 [23:09] if alsa works fine, is there any reason to not blacklist oss/ [23:09] Reticenti: if you have apps that really want oss [23:09] I wouldn't block the oss modules. [23:09] mmk [23:09] eviljames: why do you have 8G or RAM? [23:09] depends onyour needs. i do not load oss compat modules [23:09] i load themonly when i need them which is very rare [23:09] mfillpot: Can you think of a single reason not to? [23:09] you'll forget you did that crap and then come in here going "omgwtf sounds doesn't work for program X" [23:10] lol [23:10] neonflux (n=mrjones@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:10] Action: andarius never came here saying that :( [23:10] Action: Reticenti is stupid [23:10] you're also not asking about blacking listing [23:10] black* [23:10] then you may well :P [23:10] so it'd probably happen :3 [23:10] eviljames: I have problems filling my 4G even with many VM, that seems overboard, but not wasteful because of the price of RAM [23:10] I just uploaded my perl 5.10.1 slackbuild to slackbuilds.org [23:10] antiwire: actually, I am black listing stuff right now [23:10] Reticenti: I have experienced games that still need OSS [23:11] it should be reviewed for approval soon [23:11] Reticenti: I know [23:11] fatalnix: look at the pending queue, it will probably be a few weeks [23:11] Reticenti: andarius isn't asking about black listing but he has black listed modules and recalls doing so which suggests that the omgwtf situation doesn't apply to him [23:12] ah [23:12] lol [23:12] lol [23:12] alright [23:12] mfillpot: I can have 2 or 3 vms going, along with an IDE and the other usual ram-wasters going on [23:12] right now im going to upload it to my site [23:12] unfortunately my admin has directory listing disabled [23:13] mfillpot: I think I was barely swapping at 4GB. [23:13] fatalnix: I believe I still have one or two in the pending queue [23:13] So I cant make a slackbuilds dir [23:13] if I had the resources to do so, I'd have a single massive system running a bunch of networked VMs [23:13] that would save so much time [23:13] if i have a usb printer, I dont need ppdev do i? [23:14] Reticenti: seriously dude [23:14] antiwire: what's stopping you? [23:14] resources as in free, unallocated cash [23:14] antiwire: ? [23:14] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:15] Reticenti: this is starting to look like the people who come in here and ask the channel if they need this kernel option...for every option [23:15] antiwire: ah, i just got moved to telecommute, so I have a work machine :P [23:15] antiwire: this is the last question i promise [23:16] eviljames: did they voip you? [23:16] Reticenti: Can we get that in writing? pastein a written promise. [23:16] pastebin* [23:16] antiwire: this is the last question i promise (tonight) [23:16] eviljames: what kind of telcom gear do they give you? [23:17] eh nvm, i'll save my question for a better one [23:17] lol [23:17] using skype for now, with a pretty nice headset :P [23:17] hehe [23:18] tell them you need a fat pipe and a vpn [23:18] skype is gay [23:18] I have 15 down 1 up already, so I'm not worrying [23:18] eviljames, if you see my freeswitch set up, you'll piss yourself [23:18] sauce? [23:19] links? schematic and working details or it never happened. [23:19] http://x.jeev.net/diag.jpg [23:19] disregard asterisk [23:19] asterisk is an inside job [23:19] seriously [23:19] -_- [23:19] guess what my job is now? [23:20] commercial voip installs using a mix of proprietary gear and asterisk [23:20] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.39.200) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:20] your real parents gave you away at birth and took a blind child that was a mix between a wolf and human.. that's how ugly you were [23:20] that was an inside job [23:20] that doesn't even make sense [23:20] i've been away from dell latitude's for a while [23:20] hahah, i'm going to twitter that right now [23:20] what's a good one [23:20] lol [23:21] "my parents were an inside job and im pooping rite now lolz!" [23:21] heh [23:21] i hate that twtitter stuff [23:21] i'm sure we can all agree on that [23:21] yeah [23:21] "i'm at CVS pharmacy buying meds to clear this colon traffic i have" [23:21] heh [23:21] "i was in line and saw a quarter -- lets just say, i CAPITALIZED ON IT!" [23:22] when are the core i7's coming out for lappies [23:22] soon, i heard of benchmarks not long ago [23:22] should i get it [23:22] my lenovo's are cool [23:22] my fastest one is a 2.83ghz core 2 duo, 64gig ssd [23:22] but it's wack [23:22] but it's ok, i prefer latitude's [23:23] rhys (n=rhys@c-67-176-142-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:24] jeev: the coolest thing you can do with twitter is control your pc via twitter [23:25] no way, controlling other people's pcs through twitter is better. [23:25] how so [23:25] i used to control my friends comp for fun with back orific [23:25] e [23:25] lol [23:25] the coolest thing i used to do is hack people on best.com's ppp accounts [23:25] stupid admin [23:25] i mean who would scan for linux ppp on best.com [23:26] I just enabled directory indexes [23:26] so i could steal their login and password for their shells caue they were stable as hell [23:26] and it still says forbidden [23:27] You don't have permission to access /files/slackbuilds/ on this server. [23:27] lol [23:28] Its like he doesnt want me to do it [23:28] options indexes? [23:28] its in there [23:30] fatalnix: did you find the setting? [23:30] neonflux (n=mrjones@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] git it! [23:31] theres more than one for that directory [23:31] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:31] I had to get the master one [23:32] fatalnix: if you ever have problems finding something in a large files like httpd.conf you can use something like "nl httpd.conf|grep index" to find the line numbers. [23:32] estevao (n=estevao@187.59.229.106) left irc: "Leaving." [23:32] its a control panel. [23:32] its dumb [23:33] yeah [23:33] wow, 12 cell battery from dell 229 bux [23:33] battery prices go up or what, 9 cell 189 bux [23:33] fatalnix: lol.. and does it reload the http daemon when the changes have been saved? [23:33] not sure, I always manually reload it, the problem is it had more than orn entry [23:34] for my public_html dir [23:34] which is rediculous [23:34] run apachctl -s when you make changes to make sure they're sane before you restart [23:34] yeah [23:34] unfortunately I dont have sudo access to the server [23:35] beans43 (n=mofo333@cpe-98-155-141-248.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:35] is there a good pdf reader that can export a single page out as a jpeg? [23:35] why would you want a jpeg? [23:36] ok guys, I'm out to play a shooting game, enjoy your evening [23:36] it's a diagram in the book [23:36] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:36] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [23:36] can you just take a screen shot? [23:37] uploading/... [23:37] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:37] yes. but i have evolved.... and expected more from softwares [23:38] xpdf is pretty much for what it needs to do and thats it [23:38] when you load software with many strange features, they eventually become unmaintainable or bothersome to maintain. [23:38] http://brianhodgins.com/files/slackbuilds/perl/ [23:38] esoteric (n=esoteric@c-67-186-216-208.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] I got it! [23:39] esoteric (n=esoteric@c-67-186-216-208.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:39] for anyone who uses Catalyst with 13.0 they will love that slackbuild [23:39] witukind__ (n=witukind@ip-213-49-238-121.dsl.scarlet.be) joined ##slackware. [23:39] fatalnix, why? [23:40] it fixed the unknown error bug [23:40] fuzzy errors, making it nearly impossible to track bugs [23:40] fatalnix: and you have tested this with *anything* in slackware that uses perl to ensure this does *not* break anythnig else? [23:40] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-179-140.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:40] im running some tests right now [23:41] right ... "no" ;) [23:41] what bug error for catalyst? [23:41] one moment [23:42] Kumool (n=Monevo@adsl-72-50-74-135.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [23:42] it 13.0 will make managing vlans better. yeah. great [23:42] first, this [23:42] http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=49472 [23:42] then: [23:42] wtf? [23:42] http://pastebin.com/m35758f62 [23:43] beans43: are you talking about vconfig? [23:43] antiwire, no. like a gui interface to manage my switches [23:43] oh god [23:44] and let me map my links better. or visio looking [23:44] You're expecting a newer version of Slackware to manage your managed switched better? [23:44] I'm missing something here [23:44] dyforc (i=dca354f3@gateway/web/freenode/x-dvebcfqydvjhthuf) joined ##slackware. [23:44] switched/switches [23:44] fatalnix, said: [23:45] for anyone who uses Catalyst with 13.0 they will love that slackbuild [23:45] hello [23:45] lol [23:45] hello [23:45] beans43: yeah, you're confused [23:45] Action: andarius falls over [23:45] brb. running some more tests [23:45] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:46] Catalyst drivers are not Catalyst switches... [23:46] antiwire, yeah, i sure am. looks like fatalinx is talking about soething else [23:46] witukind_ (n=witukind@213.49.237.140) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [23:46] indeed [23:47] I have a 800mW alfa wireless adapter, but 'iwconfig wlan1' says Tx-Power=20dBm however iwconfig wlan1 txpower 29 doesn't work, any ideas? [23:47] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] alright back [23:47] was testing cpan [23:47] but you still just asked for a GUI to control Cisco switches which brings up a *whooole* bunch of other issues... [23:47] uh [23:47] I'll repeat my admin handbook.. "REAL Sysadmins dont use the cisco gui tools" [23:48] and understand the Cisco OS. [23:48] :D [23:48] it actually says that [23:49] you're confusing sysadmins for netadmins [23:49] different monkeys [23:50] yeah [23:50] dyforc: iirc, there have been reported issues some the power reporting and certain driver/chipset combos [23:50] I cant find the bi=ook! [23:50] dyforc: is the device USB? [23:50] book* [23:50] antiwire: yeah [23:50] dyforc: rtl8187 based by any chance? [23:50] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-90-126.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:50] antiwire: it's rtl8187L [23:51] my rtl8187 has the same reporting issue [23:51] i just disregard the power read out but I believe there are some third party patches to fix the reporting [23:51] antiwire: I've googled it and aircrack-ng says Tx-Power value is relative [23:51] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-90-126.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [23:52] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [23:52] that depends on what you are using as your power base [23:53] if it is strictly output power, not it is not relative. if it is based on signal to noise, effective power could be considered relative [23:53] does iw show proper data ? [23:53] andarius: as far as I can tell, no [23:53] but it's just reporting [23:54] iwconfig does not do so well with my card while iw does [23:54] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.43.204) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:54] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [23:54] i think this is still something with the driver though [23:54] the latest iw works well with other chipsets though [23:54] very likely, you did say it was an rtl chip ;) [23:54] phoenix^_ (n=fire|bir@173-18-63-179.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [23:55] i shoot for atheros cards [23:55] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [23:55] I've been testing with an atheros card and 2.6.31 + hostapd and it's been working great [23:55] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:56] Nick change: phoenix^_ -> phoenix^ [23:56] i am using one with 2.6.30.5 and ath9k [23:56] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [23:56] wonderful :) [23:56] So how long does it take to build kde4 ? [23:56] years [23:56] i wonder [23:56] at least 2 [23:56] i will try and fail probably [23:56] i will applaud your failure [23:56] you are mean [23:57] lol [23:57] a mean mean man [23:57] you've already failed if you assume failure. how about we just celebrate your failure even at the pre-fail party [23:57] i expect failure [23:57] installing Catalyst [23:57] oh [23:57] I expect winure [23:57] that way if it succeeds i am happy [23:58] and since I updated perl, I now was able to set automatic dependency installation with local lib [23:58] weird. [23:58] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.123.186) left irc: "Leaving" [23:58] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:58] i refuse to buy anything that has ATI in it [23:58] I have an ATI. [23:58] vc [23:59] I go with nvidia [23:59] thats like saying its the companies fault, not the chipset. [23:59] in fact, it is [00:00] --- Tue Sep 22 2009