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[00:10] joutlancpa (n=john@c-76-26-186-222.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:12] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: "Leaving." [00:13] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:14] frullet (n=Bob@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [00:15] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-31.dial.telus.net) left irc: "BE ARE BEE" [00:16] joutlancpa (n=john@c-76-26-186-222.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:17] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [00:17] Desperado667, if you know the topic it should be easy [00:17] Action: edman007 decides to work on his 50+ page report [00:17] It's IT, but I just need some stats to throw in [00:18] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [00:19] Desperado667, does the prof actually check them? [00:19] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "peace" [00:19] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-62.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:19] otherwise, just say it gave a 18% boost in productivity after 6 months [00:19] there were 1769 computers on the network, in a company with 1328 employees [00:20] see, i'm good [00:20] and then throw in a link to the ACM or something...but make it broken [00:20] claim it worked when you clicked it [00:20] lol [00:21] I may do that [00:21] I'm a dumbass for slacking... [00:21] I had three weeks to do this [00:24] nvision (n=nvision@g229072018.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [00:25] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-62.dial.telus.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:25] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-93.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [00:26] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:27] Desperado667, check the archives of infoworld. [00:28] They have a lot of good things like that. [00:29] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.254.241.255) left irc: "leaving" [00:29] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [00:30] yarvin (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) joined ##slackware. [00:31] Thanks! :) [00:31] d4vidc (n=d@dynamic-216-227-7-166.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [00:32] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:34] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:35] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [00:37] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:37] Gatto (n=Romeo~@host41-64-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [00:38] good morning people [00:39] Good Morning Gatto [00:39] pattwo (n=patrick@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:39] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:40] <_guitarman_> thx to all who helped me with my kernel compile all went well [00:40] _guitarman_: good to hear. [00:41] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "life is way too short for that bull shit..." [00:42] _guitarman_, i'm sorry i was not able to screw it up for you [00:42] Hey edman007. How's it going? [00:42] its going [00:43] <_guitarman_> edman007 - lol, firebird619 - thx for the help earlier... for some reason jack isn't running in realtime, but i did compile realtime stuff into the kernel so its some other hang up which i will research [00:43] _guitarman_, at least i did something right [00:43] _guitarman_: Are you running jack with realtime option? [00:44] ____________/\_____________\o/_______________________ [00:44] _guitarman_: Also, set_rlimits from SBo lets you use jack as normal user. [00:44] edman007: Whoa, what's that? modified version of hangman? :P [00:44] firebird619, its a shark about to eat [00:45] i thought it was an m60 aimed at a soldier with his hands up [00:45] edman007: Ah, ok. I see it now. :) [00:45] antler, fail [00:45] Action: edman007 bits antler [00:45] i like my version better. shark. pft. :P [00:46] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:47] Action: antler uses a wood plane on edman007 he3 [00:47] ><^> antler [00:47] ><^> [00:48] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) joined ##slackware. [00:48] ae ><^> [00:48] FCron (n=FCron@93.93.169.183) left irc: "CH5; 2 A51O 25@=CAL =5 A:>@>" [00:48] ><)>" # antlers on that fish [00:49] he ate your consonants [00:49] Action: antler outruns edman007 's slow moving fish [00:49] ><))))>" [00:50] wtf is on his nose? [00:50] antenna [00:50] mmlj4: what kind of fish is that? :P [00:51] witz, lol [00:51] ^_^ [00:51] antlers [00:51] hehe [00:51] mmlj4, oh...i see, hahaha [00:51] ^_. (one's a stub) [00:52] (_!_) [00:52] giuppy (n=giuppy@host96-53-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:52] actually i like that better mmlj4 :P [00:53] Finally dropped using gui based text editors.. it was worth it. [00:54] witz: what do you use then? RHIDE? SETedit? [00:54] Nah, vim [00:55] vi is nice [00:56] <_guitarman_> firebird619: thx yeah I did the other way which is now working which involved running set_cap command and nice jackd ... now i can run jackd in realtime but getting unable to mlock port buffers so i'm looking that one up [00:57] Action: edman007 attacks witz [00:57] M-x kill-witz [00:58] _guitarman_: Ok, I've never had that error. [00:59] edman007: >.> [00:59] sorry, what is rfc2597 on /etc/iproute2/rt_dsfield.new? [00:59] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:00] <_guitarman_> firebird619 - yeah i'm not sure what to make of it. i'm going to try it out with ardour and see if i've improved my xrun status [01:01] Action: witz is dizzy [01:01] _guitarman_: Good Luck. Ardour is a great app. [01:02] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:02] Action: edman007 attempts to hit a key combo to do a cool fatality on witz [01:04] Action: witz ducks [01:04] Action: edman007 is the reptile guy and jumps on witz and eats him [01:04] nice knowing you witz. :P [01:05] Action: witz points the Death star in edman007's general direction. [01:06] <_guitarman_> firebird619: yes it sure is i've used it a fair amount already but there is still so much to know... looks like i've cut my latency in 1/2 but still need to tweak it... it was 40 somthing ms, but now its down to 21 [01:06] <_guitarman_> keep in mind i have an old crusty p4 with 512 mb ram [01:06] _guitarman_: That's a good decrease. [01:07] <_guitarman_> firebird619 - yes it really is... i think i may try and create the tmpfs on ram to see if i can eack out a bit more performance. [01:07] _guitarman_: p4 3.2 with 1 GB ram here. [01:07] <_guitarman_> but i might leave that for another night. [01:07] <_guitarman_> cool firebird619 that is more then adequate for some audio work on linux [01:08] _guitarman_: yeah it is. I like lmms and rosegarden too. :) I'm just learning to play keyboard (on my own), so haven't done alot yet, but I'm getting there. :) [01:08] Action: edman007 screams [01:08] nvision (n=nvision@g229072018.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:08] edman007: Why? [01:08] firebird619, witz is attacking with a death star :( [01:09] Action: edman007 looks for a vent [01:09] Action: witz glees [01:09] witz 1 edman007 0 ? [01:09] <_guitarman_> firebird619 - cool stuff - i looked at those programs they look good - without a keyboard they aren't a lot of use to me right now. [01:09] lol [01:09] starfruit (n=starfrui@cpe-98-155-141-157.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:09] Action: witz shakes edman007's hand. [01:10] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:10] _guitarman_: Yes, they are really nice apps. I think ardour is the best though. [01:10] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:10] Action: edman007 squeezes witz's hand into pulp [01:10] <_guitarman_> firebird619: don't forget hydrogen [01:10] Action: firebird619 congratulates witz for good sportsmanship and shaking edman007's hand. [01:10] <_guitarman_> i used those 2 apps to do the intro music to the 10 buck review podcast [01:10] <_guitarman_> and tllts [01:10] darn it, -1 point [01:10] :-/ [01:10] _guitarman_: Ah yes, I have that installed to. [01:11] _guitarman_: tllts? [01:11] witz: So, what's it like to have just one hand? Hard to type huh? [01:11] <_guitarman_> oh - i did a silly country music ditty that i sent to The Linux Link Tech Show... they played it for a bit in there intro [01:11] _guitarman_: cool. [01:12] <_guitarman_> but i think its getting a little stale, but they are still playing it. [01:12] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) joined ##slackware. [01:12] <_guitarman_> yeah. i get a kick out of it... i try and do music when i can [01:12] _guitarman_: Music is great. What type of music do you like? [01:12] firebird6: one finger typing ftw. ^_^ [01:12] Action: edman007 goes back to reading motivational posters [01:13] yeah.. hehe [01:13] witz: Well, it certainly takes you longer to type. :) [01:13] edman007: So, are you motivated by these posters? [01:14] Action: witz agrees [01:14] <_guitarman_> firebird619: i like appreciate everything but in general the stuff that i usually listen to is singer songwriter stuff. ryan adams, elliott smith, jeff buckley, ... i love electronica but don't have a lot of it [01:14] firebird619, no [01:15] edman007: Then what's the point of reading them, comedic value? [01:15] _guitarman_: I've never heard of them, but cool. Music is music imo. [01:15] firebird619, yes [01:16] They can be quite entertaining though lol. [01:17] starfruit (n=starfrui@cpe-98-155-141-157.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [01:17] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.149.43.121) joined ##slackware. [01:20] Desperado667 (n=Miranda@c-67-163-242-137.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [01:21] anyone else ever try to teach someone to program who just couldn't get it? [01:22] i'm trying to get this person to code what is essentially two counters inside a loop, 20 lines of code, 5 minutes max work... [01:23] edman007: yeah, it seems to intimidate some people, people who are quite capable in other respects [01:23] they have been at it for like an hour...they finally ask for more help...i use sample code, and then they show me stuff that would never work, things are backwards, types are wrong... [01:23] but more or less my sample code :/ [01:24] cfdisk (n=cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) left irc: Success [01:25] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-55-214-182.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:25] twolf, heh, i'm an undergrad, taking a course that got merged with a grad course, CSCI-660, and the test was last week, highest grade in the class was 26.5/30...i got a 26/30...i'm one of the three undergrad students in a class of ~25 [01:25] :/ [01:25] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-157-235.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] and this person is in that class...can't code at all...and is graduating this semester with a MS in Electrical and Computer Engineering.... [01:26] hehe, I know the type [01:29] he, I have troubles making a for-loop : I have to do a recursive function >< [01:32] recursive funcs suck, too much stack bashing [01:32] but its fun to convert recursive functions into non-recursive funcs [01:32] yosi_ (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) joined ##slackware. [01:32] edman007, just make them tail-recursive and use a compiler that can change that, doesn't use any stack [01:32] I bet we don't code in the same languages at all ;) [01:33] tail recursive? the compiler does not no how to allocate on the heap... [01:33] (except c++ i suppose) [01:33] but not in C [01:33] fortran! [01:33] ocaml :) [01:34] it's a functionnal programming language so recursion matters [01:34] C (maybe C++) is about as high level as i go [01:34] right now the language i'm working with is VHDL, which is far far below C [01:35] its below the CPU :) [01:35] ocaml is more high-level but doesn't trade much performance (sometimes nothing at all) [01:35] I think there is something to do vhdl with ocmal ;p [01:36] i doubt it [01:36] VHDL is very very different...its inherently parallel [01:37] http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&q=vhdl ocaml ;p [01:37] s/ /+/ [01:37] x <= 0; if x = 0 then end if; <-- will not "do something" [01:37] (sorry, having breakfast) [01:37] anyways, %20 > + [01:37] remember that [01:38] edman007: so does noobfarm's new pagination make you happy now? [01:39] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:39] you should really buy boobfarm.org too :) [01:40] eh no [01:40] Dominian, honestly, i think it takes up too much space at the top, and looks a bit funny [01:40] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:40] Camarade_Tux, is it for sale? [01:40] or are you trying to sell it? [01:40] What's a good avi to DVD program? [01:40] I can't stand watching stuff on this monitor anymore... [01:41] edman007, it is :) [01:42] hehe [01:42] edman007: I figured you'd say that ;) [01:43] No one? [01:43] I just mistyped noobfarm.org once ;) [01:43] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) left irc: "leaving" [01:43] heh there's new linux distro called "easy peasy" ... [01:44] sure you did, Camarade_Tux . you own boobfarm [01:44] Action: edman007 makes a "fscking impossible" distro [01:44] antler, heh ! I don't ! [01:44] H4ck3r (n=chatzill@pool-173-57-156-2.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:44] in my distro all source files are encrypted with a random 16-bit key, you need to determine the key of every file before you can compile it [01:44] antler, that's a boobubuntu [01:44] and there are no binaries [01:45] hi I'm new to C, How to define a string constant in C ? like #define FILE_INPUT = "blah.txt" [01:45] and boobuntu.org seems available too [01:45] edman007: lol [01:46] Nick change: yosi_ -> yosii [01:46] H4ck3r, const x = "xyz"; or (more compatible with older stuff), #define X "xyz" [01:46] Camarade_Tux: hey is it common for french women in france to reveal their boobies intentionally? [01:46] thank you edman007 [01:46] :) [01:46] H4ck3r, err, that should be const char* x = "xyz"; [01:47] yeah [01:47] the #define has no type and does not tell the compiler its a constant, so the const keyword is in general better, but it was not present early on [01:48] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [01:48] but that FILE_INPUT cant be changed right? [01:49] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:49] antler, hmmm, not really [01:49] unfortunately ! [01:49] H4ck3r, the #define method is more of a work around, the preprocessor replaces the word FILE_INPUT in your source with "xyz", and "xyz" is implied to be a constant (its just like 1 is a constant) [01:49] (well, not in public if that's what you meant) [01:49] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:49] Camarade_Tux: i honestly thought they were really liberal about that shit... [01:50] yes, edman007. [01:50] :) [01:50] antler, oh, they can but you need an *actual* reason before [01:50] the reason its not as good is because the compiler is not told that the two occurrences of the string are the same, thus you are not guaranteed that the pointers are equal (FILE_INPUT == FILE_INPUT could be false) [01:50] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [01:51] through all modern compilers look for identical strings and merge em to the same spot, so it is equivalent [01:52] Camarade_Tux, do you know where to find a nude beach? [01:52] there are some in the south afaict [01:52] Action: Camarade_Tux lat for school [01:52] antler, see, they are more liberal [01:53] Camarade_Tux, not even 2am... [01:53] Action: antler saws edman007 's legs at the shins and switches his feet so that the left is on the right, the right on the left. [01:53] and on the atlantic coast [01:53] (other ones are too cold ;p ) [01:53] 8am ! [01:53] Camarade_Tux: are you there with your binoculars? [01:54] antler, sweet, i'm normal! [01:54] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [01:55] headline: "linux hacker alias Camarade_Tux charged with exposing himself at public nude beach. women frightened, men laughed." [01:56] dogs got a boost of confidence [01:56] Oo [01:56] sheep ran scared [01:56] lol [01:56] heh that would make no sense at a nude beach..."exposing himself"?? [01:57] you never seen him before then have you [01:57] antler, its a crime for Camarade_Tux to use a public bathroom, he melts the walls [01:58] because he can't aim [01:58] revised: "man walks on nude beach with massive boner" [01:58] haha [02:00] "massive" <---something we should know here :) [02:01] wow, I just updated my own phone's firmware in a VirtualBox [02:01] with a shifty cable that if you look at wrong will pull out. [02:01] well, it's still going apperently [02:01] Old_Fogie, its relative...report is from a wasp [02:01] it was a boner though [02:02] report was from a wasp rofl [02:02] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) joined ##slackware. [02:02] Lesson learned: Avoid nude beaches when horny. [02:03] "Wasp stings massive boner" [02:03] Swelling will not subside. [02:03] i think i would be way too immature for a nude beach [02:04] walk around all day all excited? [02:04] perma-happy? [02:04] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:04] not perma-happy. there'd be no decent way of releasing the sexual tension [02:05] nullboy: you go to nude beaches often? [02:06] nope [02:06] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A657.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:06] ever been? (me <--- never) [02:06] any time i'm at a beach, i'm surfing and in this area that means wetsuit [02:06] never been [02:06] there are a few here [02:06] morning [02:06] Good morning slackytude. How are you? [02:07] Most people at nude beaches seem to be the type that should keep their clothes on. [02:07] lol [02:08] antler: i wouldn't go though. not like me at all and doesn't fit my personality in the least [02:08] yarvin (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) left ##slackware. [02:08] nullboy: not even with a fake mustache, dark glasses, and hi-tech recording equipment? [02:08] :P [02:09] yes, the unibomber is very incognito at a nude beach [02:09] lol [02:09] unibomber look [02:09] :) [02:09] if i wanted to be creepy i'd just drive a boat off shore and use a nice lens [02:09] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-206-62.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:10] not at these gas prices, I'm cheap [02:10] see men? i'm way too immature. nude beaches are out of the question for me. [02:10] walk right up and ask for their photograph I would :) [02:11] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:11] antler: immature like captain uber wood or just funny? [02:11] nullboy: both [02:11] i don't see how anyone can possibly maintain flaccidness in that situation [02:11] lol [02:12] the imagination doesn't even need to ramp up since it's right there in your face [02:13] a party during which personal keys are randomly exchanged and key matches equals sex is more my thing. [02:13] that's more erotic [02:13] well, most of the people whom go i'm sure are used to the stimulation [02:13] that's cool [02:13] public keys? [02:13] key swap, never heard of that [02:13] nooper: that issue with noobfarm and opera should be fixed [02:13] nooper: house keys. car keys. [02:13] firebird619, morning! Im doing great, today. Atlho its a bit early to tell I guess. How are you on this fine morning? dns working fine? [02:13] cool, Dominian [02:14] nooper: I had to actually install opera at work so I could see if it was fixed :P [02:14] slackytude: I am doing great, thank you. Yes, dns is working great too. [02:14] heh [02:14] shmalu (i=shmalu@gateway/shell/rootnode.net/x-a5e362417b42c743) left irc: Connection reset by peer [02:14] it was the same in ie7 [02:14] antler: there are actually parties like that? [02:14] lol nullboy [02:15] nooper: I'm not too worried about IE :P [02:15] funny you would want to know, but seriously antler, are there? [02:15] lolz [02:15] mrselfpwn: haha but why is that funny? i'm curious [02:15] nullboy: yes. i've come close to going to once when i was in university. it was a group of men and women between 30 and 40 [02:16] like a swingers party or singles? [02:16] i'm lol [02:16] and you were in university [02:16] this is interesting [02:16] what is the name for this type of party? [02:16] swinger party? [02:16] nullboy: i'm not exactly sure [02:16] lemon... [02:16] lol [02:16] slackytude: it's not limited to men and women who are married [02:16] slackytude: nah the key swap thing [02:16] is it invite only? [02:16] like a keyswap party [02:16] lol [02:17] somehow that reminds me of a movie [02:17] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=key+party [02:17] lmao [02:17] this is awesome [02:17] slackytude: yes, it was in "ice storm" [02:17] what a great idea [02:17] antler, impressive [02:17] how do i find one? [02:17] slackytude: ang lee's "ice storm" [02:18] antler, yeah, that was the one I was thinking of [02:18] antler, impressive [02:18] that is hilarious [02:18] nullboy: lol [02:18] craigslist? [02:20] *channel goes silent as CL gets a DDoS* [02:20] lol [02:20] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.187.105) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:20] heh [02:20] Action: edman007 points his botnet at nullboy and issues a DDoS [02:20] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.162.255) joined ##slackware. [02:20] anybody getting userfriendly.org? [02:21] nullboy, key party eh? what if i come single? [02:21] edman007: yeah that's what i'm thinking too [02:21] if they allowed single people all you would see was 40 dudes and 1 crackwhore show up [02:21] frullet (n=Bob@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:21] then you leave single [02:21] nullboy: lol [02:21] or maybe just pick up some really ugly girl and bring her [02:21] crachwhore [02:22] edman007: good idea [02:22] H4ck3r_ (n=chatzill@pool-173-57-156-2.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] edman007, that means 40 dudes and 40 really ugly girls [02:22] ugly girls need lovin' too [02:22] well, who cares? [02:22] better than my hand... [02:22] make sure to stock up on paper bags [02:22] i hope [02:23] edman007: seriously! [02:23] enough that people can double bag [02:23] lmao [02:23] on the other hand, another mans ugly might be your pretty [02:23] come on, in that situation, would you really care if the girl was less than a bo derek 10? [02:23] Action: antler wouldn't [02:23] slackytude: that's a risk of probability that i'll take [02:23] I guess there is alcohol involed so probably not [02:23] antler: i wouldn't give a shit [02:23] lol [02:24] WOOT~ [02:24] ! [02:24] I upgraded the firmware on my phone because the mobile web and get it now wouldn't work and after the upgrade it works. [02:24] i'm stoked [02:24] though i've never witenessed such a thing, i think weirdass parties like the one in 'eyes wide shut' happen too [02:25] people do weird shit [02:25] bag her, bag yourself, in case hers slips off [02:25] ever heard of the site sexsearch.com? [02:25] nope [02:25] rofl spook [02:25] nooper: recycled joke from this channel [02:26] antler: that eyes wide shut party was crazy [02:26] I know someone who used a site like that and said it is more effective than you would imagine. [02:26] nullboy: totally [02:26] mrselfpwn: how is that site legal? is it all stings or something? [02:26] "hello, My name is Chris Hansen" [02:27] lol [02:27] no, I guess they have some type of legality [02:27] mrselfpwn: you know someone who did it? [02:27] yes i do nullboy [02:27] well they did the adultfriendfinder one [02:27] tell us the truncated story dude wtf [02:27] why would it be illegal? [02:28] prostotution [02:28] prostitution * [02:28] but it's not [02:28] he said it works [02:28] it's "free" [02:28] Action: slackytude shrugs [02:28] i said you did it and met someone? [02:28] he just smiled [02:28] lol [02:28] and said he wasn't at liberty to say [02:28] what's up people? how is everyone tonight? [02:28] probably because he's married to my sister. [02:28] mrselfpwn: lmao [02:29] mrselfpwn: how did that make you feel? [02:29] berkough, horny, apparentl [02:29] lol [02:29] lol not suprised [02:29] slackytude: a/s/l? [02:29] nullboy, O_o [02:29] aren't we all???? [02:29] lol [02:29] wow... asl is old [02:29] nullboy, 56/yes/here [02:29] hahaha [02:29] lol [02:29] berkough, a/s/l [02:29] I haven't see anyone use that in a long ass time [02:30] write your age sex and location in binary [02:30] not since myspace.... "what's your myspace?" [02:30] berkough: but there was a time when you did? hahaha [02:30] lol, yes indeed there was [02:30] lol [02:30] I remember it from Yahoo chat rooms. [02:30] lol [02:30] I remember it from various early java chat rooms [02:31] yeah [02:31] lol, that reminds me of a bash.org quote [02:31] Action: slackytude never did [02:31] let me grep that [02:31] Action: edman007 is 107 pluto years old/yes please/moon [02:32] H4ck3r_ (n=chatzill@pool-173-57-156-2.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:32] this guy is hilarious [02:32] http://bash.org/?search=bloodninja&sort=0&show=25 [02:33] _guitarman_ (n=steve@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:33] the second is funniest but long [02:34] lol, enimemBNJA and BritneySpears14... that takes me back to 97-98 [02:35] lol [02:35] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) left irc: "Leaving" [02:35] eminemBNJA: Oh I like that Baby. I put on my robe and wizard hat. [02:36] lol [02:37] H4ck3r (n=chatzill@pool-173-57-156-2.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:38] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:38] methoxy (n=methoxy@ip72-197-207-247.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:38] so speaking of being horny.... got two women that should be booty calls, instead are just teases [02:38] hey guys, for some reason after i recompile my kernel, and reboot, slackware tries to run a rc.modules that is from the stock kernel version, how do i update rc.modules after upgrading my kernel? [02:38] Action: berkough is trying to drop them like bad habits, but it isn't working... berkough also smokes, tried to quit, but that didn't work either [02:38] next them [02:39] I liked WINE with MadTracker [02:39] anyone know? [02:39] I have been in here the last few months as dchmelik, but someone has my earlier nick [02:40] methoxy: you don't need to unless you are having problems but you can make your own and name it rc.modules.local [02:40] that one will have preference over the stock one [02:40] methoxy: did you make modules and make modules_install? or is this not related? [02:40] i did this: [02:40] make clean ; make bzImage ; cp arch/x86/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.6.29.1-s10 ; cp System.map /boot/System.map-2.6.29.1-s10 ; cp .config /boot/config-2.6.29.1-s10 ; make modules ; make modules_install ; /sbin/lilo [02:40] to see why, do this grep rc.modules.local /etc/rc.d/rc.S [02:40] by default rc.modules is the one [02:40] ... [02:41] is anyone else nearly incapacitated by allergies? tis the season [02:41] nix_chix (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:41] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433931.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:41] is there something wrong with the way im doing my kernel? [02:41] for some reason my modules dont list under lsmod [02:41] dude. [02:41] are you even seeing what i type? [02:42] yea i did that [02:42] "This loads any kernel modules that are needed. These might be required to use your ethernet card, sound card, or other optional hardware. Priority is given first to a script named "rc.modules.local", then to "rc.modules-$FULL_KERNEL_VERSION", and finally to the plain "rc.modules". Note that if /etc/rc.d/rc.modules.local is found, then that will be the ONLY rc.modules script the machine will run, so make sure it has everything in it that you ne [02:42] so just make rc.modules.local or make rc.modules-LOCALVERSION [02:42] i did [02:42] or kernel version [02:43] i mv'd the original file to rc.modules-2.6.29.1-s10 [02:43] it runs at boot but im wondering what exacxtly is suppose to be in that file [02:43] just wondering if its connected to lsmod not showing anything.. i might upgrade modutils [02:43] did you see what i posted nearly 12 hours ago about the the kernel build? [02:44] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:45] module-init-tools-3.7.tar.bz2 08-Apr-2009 22:08 743K [02:45] you just typed out what you are doing to build the kernel but i don't see anything in there that shows us how you created or obtained your initial config [02:45] newest version [02:45] i created it from sratch [02:45] scratch [02:45] there is nothing wrong with module init tools in slackware though [02:45] it was the stock one but i added / removed things [02:45] are you sure you enabled modules then? [02:45] Y is not going to show modules in lsmod [02:46] objects set to M will show in lsmod when they are loaded [02:48] berkough, shame on the tease thing [02:48] heh, yeah I'm iming with my homie right now, we're talking about it [02:49] (11:48:26 PM) VIOLENTclockwork: strage how 2 strapping you lads with intelligence and charisma cant seem to get normal chicks who dig it [02:49] berkough, heh [02:50] I know how some guys have a problem even talking chicks, that's totally not the issue, just all the ones I meet are crzy [02:50] crazy even [02:50] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [02:51] I used to have problems [02:51] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) joined ##slackware. [02:51] used to stutter too [02:51] if that is the right word [02:51] this one bitch even has the audacity to talk to my friend about us going to an art exhibit this friday without even calling me and asking if I want to go. [02:51] maybe stammer [02:51] strutter = KISS ftw! [02:52] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:52] O_o [02:52] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [02:52] that was kinda sucky back when I was younger [02:52] wait, I totally mis-read that... sorry, I am intoxicated [02:53] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:53] its gotten better but Im still not comfortable with some social situations [02:53] but thats why there is alcohol, no [02:53] lol, indeed my friend [02:54] I'm an asshole to chicks when I'm drunk... they're like "Damn Matt, you were a nice and quiet guy, where did that shit come from?" [02:54] showing your true self [02:54] here's a secret though, they actually like the assholes [02:54] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:54] thats not a secret [02:54] lol [02:55] women like bastards [02:56] yeah you gotta lay the seduction [02:57] not sure that I've ever seduced a girl.... but you lay it down like "Bitch I don't deal with your games and shit." and all of a sudden it's fellatio [02:58] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:58] you're like "how did she get down there???" [02:58] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-93.dial.telus.net) left irc: "buh bye" [03:00] lol [03:00] berkough: cool story bro [03:00] hahaha [03:00] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [03:00] http://img.skitch.com/20090310-fue4arsbcqnqj5q9327sc2gd46.jpg [03:01] lol, it's true man... [03:01] (like the pic) [03:01] that's pretty bad ass [03:01] haha [03:01] damn, not I gotta bust out with the pictures to prove a point..... [03:02] now even [03:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:02] pics or it never happened [03:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:02] tits or gtfo [03:02] work safe pictures... [03:03] http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/20/l_382b1b0a3cc61305aca5ee679057fde9.jpg [03:03] one of the ex's... I knew her before she got her tits done and her teeth fixed though [03:03] she left me, moved to australia, married this dood, and became a model [03:03] I'm so pissed about that [03:05] http://b6.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00623/64/96/623016946_l.jpg http://b8.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00909/81/93/909883918_l.jpg [03:05] WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/. [03:05] ? [03:05] that's another one of the ex's [03:05] methoxy, yea, its deprecated [03:05] do what now? [03:05] is that a problem? [03:06] not exactly...what did you do to make it happen? [03:06] no, it means its deprecated [03:06] berkough, you the tired looking dude in the second pic? [03:06] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) left irc: "Where ever you may be, be well. Namarië." [03:07] if you just edited /etc/modprobe.conf, then undo the edit and move them to a better place....but otherwise well it means what it says [03:07] http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/30/l_de63aa307f5f44e18b0c5f675385881d.jpg [03:07] haha, no, that's Beth's dad [03:07] never met him.... we were in Long Beach,CA at the time he was in Santa Fe, NM which is where she's from [03:08] that last one got me in some serious trouble [03:08] almost got my ass beat by her ex-football player boyfriend [03:08] http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/l_cfd83a61d7fab93220928946bab48f37.jpg [03:08] but your slackware-kung-fu saved you? [03:08] he totally belongs on Hot Chicks and Douchebags [03:10] anyway, the point is... confidence, that's all women care about [03:10] http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=16256355&albumID=190707&imageID=42506603 [03:10] this last pic is me [03:10] nice horse [03:11] arent you little big for it, tho? [03:11] lol, that was the point..... a certain mystical/magical plant was involved [03:11] is that a bong on the table? [03:11] hookah but close [03:11] i think i messed with the rndis_host make / config [03:11] to get it to happen [03:13] methoxy, so, how far are you now? got your modules back? [03:16] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) joined ##slackware. [03:19] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) left irc: Client Quit [03:21] you know what really pisses me off and i just realized it...people saying "cats". not like the animal but people as "those cats over there" [03:21] i fscking hate that [03:22] eh? [03:22] pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [03:23] slackboy, 40s/50s slang [03:23] refering to cool looking people [03:23] i don't know why it makes me rage but it does [03:23] sometimes just generic people [03:23] yeah [03:23] lemon... [03:23] fail [03:23] used often by people associated with jazz [03:23] thought i was page up/enter in 'mc' lol [03:24] abing (n=abing@218.94.136.179) joined ##slackware. [03:24] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:24] lol [03:24] oh, cool cats [03:25] pattwo (n=patrick@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:25] arrrggghhh [03:25] which command is needed: slackpkg update or slackpkg upgrade-all ? [03:25] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.149.43.121) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:25] both [03:26] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.149.43.121) joined ##slackware. [03:26] slackboy, execute them one by one ? [03:26] no, at the same time [03:26] But how ? [03:26] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:26] heh [03:26] pip: depends on the situation but using a full upgrade as an example: slackpkg update && slackpkg install-new && slackpkg upgrade-all && slackpkg clean-system [03:26] feinoM (n=feinom@svale.hia.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:27] :O [03:27] pip, I was messing with you. first issue update, than upgrade-all [03:27] nullboy, would you do that for a version jump? [03:27] what's the difference ? [03:27] use clean system to remove packages that have been listed as removed in the changelog. you can keep any of your own added packages though [03:27] slackytude: yeah [03:27] nullboy, from 12.1 -> 12.2? [03:27] no [03:27] heh [03:28] didnt you just say you'd use it for a version jump? [03:28] for my own systems, for version jumps, i enter RL1 and manually upgrade [03:28] nullboy you're -current right? [03:28] berkough: yes [03:28] that's what I thought [03:29] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [03:30] how often do you sync with the current tree? [03:30] berkough: every single day there is a change [03:30] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433931.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:30] my system is never more than 12 hours out of sync with the current tree [03:31] has anyone written up a paper about how to setup your system for that? I think I want to try it, never done before though [03:31] always went with ver releases [03:31] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433931.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:31] sidmario (n=sidmario@201-43-57-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:32] berkough: just install using the current isos and then i use rsync to keep a local copy of -current. then point slackpkg to your local mirror directory [03:32] hmmm.... seems simple enough [03:32] I'll see if I can set that up this weekend [03:32] then to sync you just rsync and then slackpkg update [03:32] slackytude, have you seen slackware-jennie around ? [03:33] slackytude: the method i use to upgrade between actual versions depends on how freaky UPGRADE.txt and Changes and Hints are [03:34] 12.1 to 12.2 would be an RL1 situation for me [03:34] e01 (n=e01@main.shu-bg.net) joined ##slackware. [03:35] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:36] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:36] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:37] pip, who? [03:37] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) left irc: "leaving" [03:37] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:37] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:37] nullboy, right, just checking, using slackpkg for 12.2->current seems doable [03:38] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:38] yeah [03:38] slackytude, the hot girl [03:39] i smell a troll [03:39] pip, eh, no I havent seen her [03:39] heh, "the hot girl"? [03:40] okay [03:41] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:41] pip you ever read Charles Dickens? [03:41] berkough, I did [03:42] Great Expectations is one of my favorite novels, that's why I ask [03:42] berkough, Any good font for xchat ? [03:42] Thanks berkough [03:42] I just use the default... np [03:42] slaxxer (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:43] I'm being real though.... it saddens me, cause I gave my copy to this girl, now she's being difficult, and I probably won't ever see my hardcover unabridged copy ever again [03:46] it was nice and warm today so i went out to surf and the water is still epic cold [03:46] berkough, what girl ? [03:46] lol, hell yeah, this time of year... I got sick one time doing that, went out to seal beach fucking storm surge and shit [03:46] nullboy, any hot girls seen today ? [03:46] just some chick I was seeing not too long ago [03:46] pip: endless [03:47] i live in a beach town where the average yearly temp is 76F [03:47] Good night everyone. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening. :) [03:47] see firebird619 [03:47] nullboy you don't have a full suit? [03:47] later slackytude. [03:47] peace [03:47] berkough: sure i do, i have it all [03:47] i just get sick of the cold [03:47] nice [03:48] I feel you [03:48] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [03:48] i have booties, thermal unders, gloves, a hood and 4mm suits [03:48] but i hate wearing all that crap [03:48] lol, it's a chore for sure, but it's totally worth it when you get out in the water [03:49] I'm the type of guy that is always listening to music... but when I get out into the water, that's the only time I don't feel like listening to music [03:49] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) joined ##slackware. [03:49] it's like the waves just have this calming rhythm [03:49] yeah because most of the time you're paying attention to not dying [03:49] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:49] I do that *all* the time [03:50] slackytude: music? [03:50] berkough, paying attention to not dying [03:50] lol, just checking, wasn't sure [03:50] at least where i surf it's always mayhem. all of the places that get good exposure are rocky and some have no sandy entrances at all. you just jump off the jetty [03:51] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:52] yeah, I never had to deal with that... southern california is pretty mild, some nice waves, but no beaches with serious hazards (the ones I've been to, or the area's I was surfing) [03:52] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [03:54] i'm in ventura county so we have a lot of rocky bottoms and jetties. we have good beach breaks too but they only work when it's big which means they get really bad currents with the huge amounts of water moving around the beach sand bars. there are also a lot of river mouth breaks that have debris issues [03:55] I commend you, surfing that takes some skill [03:56] thanks, it has taken me over 8 years to get to the point of being able to go out no matter what the conditions are [03:56] that's why i like surfing though [03:57] there's a huge learning curve and only time in the water helps [03:58] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:58] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:01] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Success [04:03] damn, I have class in 8hrs.... I'm on like the end of the second bottle of wine [04:04] Tyrael (n=bart@212.187.2.224) joined ##slackware. [04:05] Tyrael? as in Tyrael69 or opshlds? [04:05] Tyrael Corp. [04:06] Blade Runner [04:06] hehe [04:06] nah, I have a friend that goes by Those nicks, I told him about this channel on freenode [04:06] heh, was curious if he actually logged on [04:06] berkough: you are in berkeley ? :D [04:07] nah, you can't trace my ip, don't even try [04:07] I'm in Vegas [04:07] hehe . not trying to trace [04:07] you were talking about beaches, CA and your nick is BERKough [04:07] alright, cause I had one guy tell me I was in Dallas, TC or some shit [04:07] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [04:07] lol, well I used to live in Long Beach, CA [04:08] TC = TX [04:08] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:09] LBC [04:09] LBC 213 what up though? [04:09] lol [04:09] VTA [04:10] lol, yeah nah that doesn't really work [04:10] when I was in Dallas for christmas, I was talking to my cousin, and he was like "Does that really work? Telling people you're from Long Beach?" [04:11] ironically I had been at a strip club like 2 weeks before that, and this chick was dancing to Sublime [04:11] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.149.43.121) left irc: "Saliendo" [04:11] I showed her my Cali ID, and she was all over over that shit [04:11] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:11] greymaus_ (n=greymaus@86-46-193-2-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] yeah because California is a freak show [04:12] SoCal is out of control [04:12] slaxxer (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] haha, I love it.. hopefully I'll be in Westwood this summer [04:13] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [04:13] wb mrselfpwn [04:14] we thought you had left for good [04:14] just bullshitting, but thought I would try to get someone else involved in the convo [04:15] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [04:15] no offense nullboy, you're cool, I always see you in here [04:15] i don't give a toot [04:15] hi [04:15] you definitely got slackware on lock too, I know who I can ask if I have questions [04:15] if you offend me i'll make sure you know lol [04:16] lol for sure, this is just the way I am [04:16] thx berkough [04:16] i'm testing my cdma internet through my phone [04:17] fuck it, I might pull an all-nighter... I need someone to talk to [04:17] why i keep disconnecting [04:17] how's that working for you? [04:17] pretty sweet [04:17] nice [04:17] yeah works well. a bit slow though I think it's because i live in a rural area [04:17] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:18] Action: berkough is listening to Jay-Z's Blueprint 2 [04:18] after the earlier conversation about crazy websites i decided to go through the whole eharmony process [04:18] i'll have to test it in town with my netbook [04:18] this is crazy [04:18] isn't eharmony for lesbians? [04:18] haha, dood, I did that [04:18] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:18] it told me I couldn't be matched with anyone [04:18] I was so pissed [04:19] took me like 40 minutes [04:19] mrselfpwn: it's for any sexual status [04:19] but the process is crazy [04:19] seriously [04:19] i know i was j/k [04:19] berkough: that's because you're too intellectual, too cool, too gangsta for them [04:19] lol, my dad and stepmom got a divorce and they both had match.com accounts. She did a search and he popped up as her match. [04:19] haha, antler that's bad ass bro, thank you [04:20] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:20] Tyrael_ (n=bart@212.187.2.224) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:20] greetings [04:20] I swear those dating sites are a scam.... morning The-Croupier [04:21] dating is difficult though [04:21] ? [04:21] with or without the bullshit sites [04:22] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-170-229.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:22] i have literally walked away from people who i have met online [04:22] about face style [04:22] haha, that's what you gotta do though [04:22] people from the internet are pathetic [04:22] nothing new [04:22] them lying about themselves dosent change anything :p [04:23] martian67: yes, [04:23] i don't lie though [04:23] lol, I'm always honest, I think that's why I never get anyone that wants to contact me [04:23] not talking about you nessisarily [04:23] this eharmony thing has been answered brutally honest by me [04:23] which probably means no matches [04:23] How to deal with some *.new and *.orig files ? [04:23] pip: inspect them and diff them to your current versions [04:23] pip, for is your friend [04:24] http://www.plentyoffish.com/member6694645.htm <- one of my online dating profiles [04:24] what is your handle on there nullboy? [04:24] D: [04:24] mrselfpwn: yeah right [04:24] lol [04:24] Should I merge them together ? [04:24] drink beer is the really new ;) [04:24] you guys would chastise the fsck out of me [04:24] pip, what do you wanna achive? [04:24] people date online?! [04:25] haha, well that's where it starts, the hope is that it goes from internet into the bedroom [04:25] no but they try to [04:25] Tyrael_ (n=bart@212.187.2.224) joined ##slackware. [04:25] what I think is screwed up and a double standard is that many of those dating sites don't even make women pay. [04:25] martian67, decrease the number of those files [04:25] :) [04:25] Action: The-Croupier hates onine dating, even if he has never tried it... [04:25] the new and old is the brain, so think about it [04:25] you could always delete them [04:26] I don't see anything wrong with online dating, my aunt met my new uncle that way, and they're happy... [04:26] don't just delete .new or .orig files [04:26] just hasn't ever worked for me [04:26] The-Croupier: hey how are things for you and that woman of yours? :) [04:26] mrselfpwn, women do pay..if they end up with some psycho* [04:26] you should diff them with the old files and check the Changelog for information [04:26] antler, hello bro..long time no see, i see you have a great memory [04:26] nullboy, coward :) [04:26] very well thank you... ;) [04:26] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host65-79-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:26] The-Croupier: good to hear, man [04:27] Trust me there are plenty of psycho women out there. The-Croupier [04:27] oh shit... I want to hear about The-Croupier 's woman [04:27] antler, there are little ups and downs like every relationship but thats the fun of it [04:27] mrselfpwn, ohh no doubt about that [04:27] antler, hows you? [04:28] how did the easter vacation go for everybody.. [04:28] The-Croupier: i'm good. everything's good. happy. [04:28] berkough, nothing to tell man.. she was just too good. ;) [04:28] antler, good to hear that :) well happy for you [04:28] "too good" needs definition [04:29] but I feel you [04:29] The-Croupier: thank you, my little toga wearin buddy [04:29] berkough, she was one of those that people would marry... but you know there is no chance [04:29] :) [04:29] damn... ok, I really feel you not [04:29] now* [04:29] antler, lol... you are giving away my place of birth...:( shhhhhh [04:30] heh [04:30] haha, dood, The-Croupier you're from Greece? [04:30] antler, you see what you have done now... [04:30] lol [04:30] no he's in a fraternity [04:30] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:31] I'm just saying, my Spanish teacher back in middle school was born in Greece, but moved to Spain, then moved to America and became a Spanish teacher [04:31] The-Croupier: 'toga wearin buddy' is better than '12-year old boy likin, marketplace standin, philosophizin' dood' :P [04:31] lol [04:31] true [04:31] antler, dont make it worse for me than it already is.. :( lol [04:31] hehe [04:31] i'm gonna pretend that went over my head [04:32] mrselfpwn, "pretend" ... is a good thing [04:32] actually i'm not pretending [04:33] damn.. [04:33] heh, well if it makes you feel any better mrselfpwn, it went right over my head [04:33] lol [04:34] never did the whole frat thing [04:34] damn guys, its either your heads are very low...or antler's very intelligent..;) [04:34] for giving me that compliment, antler is the shit, and that's the end of it [04:34] don't confuse intelligence with a twisted imagination. [04:35] mrselfpwn, still the same ;) [04:35] I am listening to gangsta rap, sorry for the cadence on the last lien [04:35] line even [04:36] any of you know how to enable that compiz thingy that shows my desktop when moving mouse pointer to bottom right edge? [04:36] seems Ive lost my config [04:36] hey 'Xavier: Renegade Angel' is freaking out of hand [04:37] so basically new configuration files are better than original ones, right ? [04:37] slackytude, sorry bro..i dont use compiz..my little laptop cannot handle it very well.. [04:37] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-199450.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:37] pip, depends what you are talking about [04:37] I only use two or three thingys [04:37] Those packages [04:37] The-Croupier beat me to it [04:37] but usually that is the philosophy [04:37] but now Ive lost me settings [04:38] FMDCH (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [04:38] Tyrael (n=bart@212.187.2.224) left irc: Success [04:38] berkough, to what??? [04:38] depends on what you're talking about [04:38] I was going to say something similar [04:39] mid type you let it off, and I had to backspace and start over [04:40] sorry...ill try to never do that again [04:40] nullboy: I am totally checking out Xavier: Renegade Angel, just looked it up on wikipedia [04:40] lol, it's all good man, I'm just fucking with you [04:41] Wonder Showzen was some crazy shit, Sesame Street on acid [04:41] i know me too ;) [04:42] http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=8a25059520b3d89e0120b4af95b20028 [04:43] well, I was on video.google.com, but that works [04:44] wow... I gotta smoke for this shit... [04:44] Action: berkough is no afk [04:44] now that is... yeah I can't type [04:49] cacao (n=back@192.93.161.253) joined ##slackware. [04:49] hello [04:49] damn, I thought for sure someone would've said something by now....... [04:49] what's up cacao? [04:49] i have this file with lots of lines of text.. but i am in the middle of this script..and cannot find a way to have a parameter to the script so that it can choose which line of the file to choose [04:49] can someone point me somewhere? [04:49] berkough: fine and you ? [04:50] really good [04:50] kewl ;) [04:51] do you know how initrd image look for initrd directory (/boot/initrd-tree) ? [04:52] dood... nullboy, this is the craziest shit I've ever seen [04:52] yeah [04:52] totally trip [04:55] pip_ (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [04:55] pip_ (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:55] is this the first episode? [04:56] eharmony is freakign me out [04:56] berkough: i think it is but i'm not sure [04:57] Jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) joined ##slackware. [04:57] this is weird..... have you seen the movie "Choke"? [04:57] (or read the book for that matter) [04:58] nope [04:59] the whole mental institution scene is similar to that movie [05:00] man, expo on mouse button 8 is great [05:00] anyone know the name of that cartoon with the super heroes who ride on each other's back? [05:00] eh? [05:01] ghey [05:01] you're talking about the SNL cartoon yeah? [05:01] space ghost? [05:01] one dude rides on the other dude's back. [05:01] it's totally gay [05:01] http://www.quicktimeflix.net/agd/ [05:02] The Ambiguously Gay Duo [05:02] hahaha [05:02] lol, yeah man, that was SNL [05:02] compiz plugin shelf is great as wel [05:02] think Im back to my config now, even better than before [05:03] sweet [05:05] speaking of configs, I've been having a lot of fun the past few days tweeking my Urt server [05:06] they say bots always crash it, but I'm determined to get it fixed before this weekend for the LAN party [05:09] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [05:11] abing (n=abing@218.94.136.179) left irc: "leaving" [05:11] Urt? [05:11] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [05:12] Urban Terror [05:12] used to be a mod for Quake 3, but since that engine went open source, it's a stand alone now [05:12] free? [05:12] yup [05:13] where? [05:13] a lot like Counter Strike.... http://www.urbanterror.net [05:13] (used be a CS guy, think this is much better though) [05:16] alright people... gotta get some sleep [05:16] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [05:16] everyone have a good night/morning [05:16] peace [05:16] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-206-62.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [05:21] frullet (n=Bob@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [05:25] good night [05:25] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:29] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. 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[05:52] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host65-79-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:52] Jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) left irc: "Leaving" [05:55] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:59] zxh (n=red@218.26.164.24) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-2.6 -- Are we there yet?" [06:01] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A657.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [06:04] bkk (n=bkk@58.136.1.143) joined ##slackware. [06:04] where is everybody...:( [06:05] hi my linux guru friend says blackware is all around much better a linux experience than ubuntu, would anyone care to help me understand if he is right or not please? [06:05] slackware* [06:05] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:07] bkk : ask your friend to define that 'linux experience' for you [06:07] multimas (n=multimas@h87-241-117-143.dynamic.se.alltele.net) joined ##slackware. [06:07] anake re: becoming proficient in a quicker time period [06:07] in bash unix etc etc [06:07] then sure. slackware will force you to learn more [06:08] ok, ty [06:10] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host65-79-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:13] blackware ... hahahhaa [06:13] shit [06:13] Action: duryodhan just realised that black is a touchy term in usa [06:13] sorry [06:14] 'touchy'? [06:15] Frullet (n=Frullet@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:16] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [06:17] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:18] no need to get racists in here now.. [06:19] bkk, have you had any linux experience before? [06:19] aidecoe (n=aidecoe@etiriah.ds.pg.gda.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:20] also guys...seems to be something wrong with noobarm..could someone else check..;) thanks [06:20] cacao (n=back@192.93.161.253) left ##slackware. [06:20] the top bit (the table seems to have lots of o's in vertical mode... [06:21] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:22] hey fellas [06:29] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:30] guys, would dban delete/wipe any partition? brother of mine has this annoying laptop with vista on it.. and somehow its locked.. would that help or am i completely of track? [06:33] why do you feel the need to use dban? [06:36] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [06:39] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:40] booteco (n=booteco@201.22.37.178.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:40] ohhh i dont feel the need..its just that i came accross it and looks like it gets the job done [06:40] marra (i=marra@fly.srk.fer.hr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:41] actually, i read it in noofarm,someone combined it with networking and when people would log in his network it would auto-erase their hdd..found it a good idea.. [06:41] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:41] and since it deletes hdd... it could erase my bros hdd too ..thats how i thought it.. [06:42] The-Croupier: man dd [06:43] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:44] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Success [06:45] ananke, you got some really nice stuff on nb ;) [06:45] if i want to auth logins on a machine against another, using ldap, do i need pam or anything funky? [06:45] spook: nss_ldap or pam [06:46] agris (n=agris@195.13.163.133) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:47] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-169-170.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:47] heya,folks...How's everyone? [06:49] super duper [06:50] Zordrak: thanks :) [06:50] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433931.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:51] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433931.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:52] spook: beware of both [06:52] each has major drawbacks [06:54] Zordrak: i'm trying to get my head around how it all works first [06:57] slackytude (i=8d644bca@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7535b3e89dca53c7) joined ##slackware. [06:57] greetings [06:57] g'day. [06:57] 6667 still blocked [06:57] Action: slackytude does the sad face [06:57] :( [06:57] multimas: greetings [06:59] It would seem that nickserv has forgotten that I already registered this nickname. [06:59] Quite odd. 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[07:15] erisco (n=kambee@ip72-209-59-92.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:16] The-Croupier: Indeed. [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-68-251.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-72-218.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:21] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090115, [07:23] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.66.86) joined ##slackware. [07:24] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [07:28] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009004004.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:30] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:31] alisonken1home1 (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:33] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433931.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:33] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433931.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:42] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:46] jnylin (n=jnylin@193.11.73.10) joined ##slackware. [07:47] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:47] tribeca (n=vedo@host162-103-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:50] Hi, I recompiled my kernel (to 2.6.29-1) yesterday on my notebook. Anything is ok, but the touchpad "lost" the "tap-and-hold" feature, for moving windows or select text, for example. Anyone had the same problem? [07:50] work-around : use ALT + left mouse click to move your windows [07:51] mine lost that too when I recompiled my kernel (along with scroll which is the only nearly problematic part) [07:51] xMDKx: perhaps you forgot to build the synaptic driver. Not that I remember if that was a kernel thing or not.. [07:52] Camarade_Tux: yes, it's a good idea, but for select text it's terrible... specially when you are familiar with the other way =( [07:52] multimas: no, I select synaptics and all related things, I checked, and rechecked, and rechecked... =/ [07:53] when I plug a USB mini mouse, the all works ok (with the mouse), so the problem is only on the touchpad [07:53] k_wolf (n=wolf@201009046031.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:53] I've found that way to select text to be completely unreliable so I ust take my other hand and use my thumb to left-click [07:54] heh, *exactly* my problem, I've never fixed it >< [07:54] hi guys [07:54] Camarade_Tux: ouch oO [07:55] I live without it :) [07:55] Camarade_Tux: hehe [07:57] xMDKx: well, what does Xorg say? [07:57] (Seems like the obvious place to look) [07:57] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [07:59] xorg looks the same, with the other kernel everything works well [07:59] on text mode only the "clink-n-hold" not works too [07:59] xMDKx: So..you're not getting any errors, warnings, nothing? [07:59] c/clink/click [07:59] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:59] multimas: nothing =( [07:59] xMDKx: How did you rebuild the kernel? Oldconfig? [08:00] no, I select all by hand [08:00] multimas: but when I see the problem, I recheck with the old config, nothing on this area is different [08:00] Ah. In that case, just diff the old config file with the new and look for what you missed. [08:00] nothing = mouse, synaptics are ok [08:01] you mean you compared menuconfig or actually diffed the configs? [08:01] multimas: grep on .config; I'll diff the files now [08:11] multimas: hum, CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2 now is built-in and the old one was module; can it be the problem? [08:14] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:17] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.66.86) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:19] Ilie (n=slacker@info-a-5.info.uaic.ro) joined ##slackware. [08:23] Ilie (n=slacker@info-a-5.info.uaic.ro) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:23] kama (n=kama@host16-3-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:23] xMDKx: quite possibly. Look at /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse, see whether you were passing any parameters at modprobe time [08:24] kama (n=kama@host16-3-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:25] also, "dmesg|grep ^input:" might show you something useful. On my laptop: [08:25] input: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input6 [08:26] Urchlay: yes, on the file: "options psmouse proto=imps" [08:26] now everything works ok [08:26] Ilie (n=slacker@info-a-5.info.uaic.ro) joined ##slackware. [08:26] multimas and Urchlay, thanks! [08:27] now everything works OK because you changed what though? [08:27] Tyrael_ (n=bart@212.187.2.224) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:27] Tyrael_ (n=bart@212.187.2.224) joined ##slackware. [08:28] Urchlay: I had compiled the kernel with the option CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2 as built-in [08:28] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [08:28] and now I changed to "module" [08:28] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "De profvndis clamo ad te Domine." [08:28] if it's showing up as a glidepoint or synaptics, you could actually use the synaptics driver in xorg, and get fine-grained control of all the stuff it does. "man synaptics" to see. [08:29] I had the exact opposite problem you had: I utterly despise tap-to-click and tap-and-hold, so I had to use the synaptics driver to disable it in xorg.conf. Now only the actual buttons act as buttons, which is what I wanted [08:29] xMDKx: Sorry I did not reply - I was scanning docs at work :p. Congrats :) [08:30] Urchlay: hum, ok, I will do it. When using as built-in, some new stuff appears, like use the 4-way direction below the touch area, and now it goes... [08:30] multimas: np, thanks :) [08:30] xMDKx: just remember to back up any config file before you edit it, and leave yourself lots of comments :) [08:31] Urchlay: ok, thanks a lot :D [08:34] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [08:36] ...for years now I've been threatening to check my entire /etc into cvs or svn [08:40] who have you been threatening? [08:41] eh, I guess I'm using it as an intransitive verb, there [08:42] just sounded funny, I guess :> [08:42] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:46] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [08:47] i have been told that arch linux is much better than slack :) (not trolling, just curious). any arch users here to compare and contrast? [08:48] probably the best way to answer that, would be to try it yourself (possibly inside virtualbox, just in case you end up hating it) [08:50] Urchlay, thanks for answering. i'll get it and try it tonight. got and extra gig of ram to spare for vbox. [08:50] i really really like arch. i think of it more as a gentoo replacement for some reason though [08:50] 686 optimized i guess [08:52] Ilie (n=slacker@info-a-5.info.uaic.ro) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:52] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.202.254) joined ##slackware. [08:52] slava_dp: I have an Arch box at home and 3 Slack boxes at work. I use Arch @ home b/c I got sick of Gentoo but I need Gnome (for easier access to Evolution/Exchange). I like Arch - and like pepperjack I see it as a better alternative to Gentoo. I prefer slackware, but Arch provides a bundled Gnome that I need. [08:53] s/need/want [08:54] BUT - in my opinon it's not "better" than Slackware (quite the contrary), just different. [08:55] all I know about arch is that it earns points for style from me, for calling its package manager "pacman" :) [08:55] (they should port it to microsoft OSes, and call the port "mspacman"!) [08:56] pkgtools > pacman > portage [08:56] Action: thrice` thinks portage is the best of the three [08:56] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-230-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:56] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:57] thrice`: portage is powerful, but one f'ed up dep can bring the whole shooting match down. [08:57] libexpat, anyone? [08:57] you can't compare pacman with pkgtools, can you? pacman is automated. [08:58] automated? [08:58] apt-get, pacman, yum (or whatever fedora uses) are the automated tools [08:58] SpacePlod: huh? [08:59] SpacePlod: you meant expat gets updated, and requires rebuilding some stuff? 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[09:04] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.202.254) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:05] Action: sombriks don't understand why do people waste time talking about pacman here. [09:06] one hours to go [09:06] wtf? [09:09] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:09] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-230-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:09] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [09:09] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-230-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:10] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:10] stillborn (n=stillbor@88.193.113.46) joined ##slackware. [09:13] Frullet (n=Frullet@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: [09:13] sombriks: it's a fun game, good for at least some timewasting? :P [09:14] mario kart is much better, ;) [09:14] http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x7lni3 [09:14] depends on your age [09:15] being somewhat of an old fart, pac-man sort of defines what a good video game should be, to me [09:15] frullet (n=Bob@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:20] 40 minutes [09:20] ? [09:20] slackytude, 46 :D [09:20] until my lab starts [09:21] and I have no clue [09:22] hughszg (n=hugh_2@218.82.207.243) joined ##slackware. [09:22] Urchlay: I'm definately an old fart. my idea of a good game is the one I played in pool halls as a teenager. a liitle race car on a black and white screen that would skid out on oil slicks...can't remember the name of it:) [09:23] night driver? [09:23] (or was that only for the 2600?) [09:23] could be [09:23] Urchlay: hey mate [09:23] morning frullet [09:23] it was played on video arcades, plug in a quaret [09:23] qurter [09:23] grazymax (n=grazymax@host183-207-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:23] lol [09:23] one of those things, yeah :) [09:23] morning frullet [09:24] hitest: was it a top-down view of the car, where the car is sitting still and the road scrolls down at you? [09:24] hitest: hows it going mate? [09:24] or was it a view of a whole race track, and the car moves all over the place? [09:26] the car may have moved around the course [09:27] I found that challenging in between hustling pool games [09:27] this? http://www.arcadeathome.com/shots3.php?sprint1 [09:27] :) [09:27] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [09:27] cause I remember that game being in arcades during the pac-man era [09:27] grah acx111 [09:28] Buggaboo (n=bug@a83-163-47-192.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:28] hey guys [09:28] hey [09:28] Yeah.....that's it!!!!! cool:) [09:28] what are those machines called that are mainly used to store data with? [09:28] but you gotta buy the harddrives etc. [09:28] NAS? [09:28] jonathanr (n=jonathan@87.194.164.154) left irc: "changing servers" [09:28] what's that stand for? [09:28] network attached storage [09:28] google [09:29] yeah. [09:29] or a san [09:29] storage area network ? [09:29] grissiom (n=grissiom@221.221.29.243) joined ##slackware. [09:29] NAS .. I don't think SAN is what a home user would need [09:29] a SAN wouldn't be one machine though, it's a bunch? [09:29] nah, it's for my company. (where I work, don't own.) [09:29] yes [09:29] SAN is more complex than that [09:29] Buggaboo: if you don't know about NAS/SAn .. stick to NAS [09:29] :D [09:29] google [09:30] I want to stick 5 satas in there. [09:30] one for each working day. [09:30] Buggaboo: NAS [09:30] NAS [09:30] well hell, let's replace all human interaction with "just google it" [09:30] Urchlay: :P [09:30] Urchlay: you know the score [09:30] Urchlay: you can't explain SAN in an IRC channel [09:31] its much more sensible to read the wikipedia article for example [09:31] grissiom (n=grissiom@221.221.29.243) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [09:31] Action: Buggaboo goes to ask big brother google. [09:31] nah, but you can tell this guy "you need a NAS, not a SAN"... which come to think of it, is exactly what happened. So I withdraw any objections :) [09:33] *headdesk* someone just raised a ticket asking who's using all the space in a shared /home partiton.... [09:33] lol. [09:33] no surprises.. it was THEM!! [09:33] 13GB [09:34] rm -rf that user's home dir and close the ticket? [09:34] stillborn (n=stillbor@88.193.113.46) left irc: "perästä kuuluu" [09:34] Urchlay: only if i decide i dont like being paid [09:34] you'd get fired for that? some people have no sense of humor at all :( [09:35] stillbor1 (n=stillbor@MYCXCV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: "heebba" [09:36] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.50) joined ##slackware. [09:36] anyone here used acx111? [09:37] stillborn (n=blow_my_@MYCXCV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [09:38] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [09:39] gotta go [09:39] slackytude (i=8d644bca@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7535b3e89dca53c7) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [09:39] slackytude: good luck [09:46] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-6e2283cb8aa6ec64) joined ##slackware. [09:46] wget needs a --self-referer option [09:47] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "link closed" [09:47] troys (n=troys@68.165.100.2) left irc: "Leaving" [09:48] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [09:48] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [09:50] wget has enough stuff [09:51] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Client Quit [09:51] im going insane [09:51] hitf do you match hidden files in bash without hitting the top level dir [09:51] many many times I want to wget a file from a server that checks the HTTP Referer header, I end up going wget --referer http://whatever http://whatever [09:52] all i want is to "du -hs .*" but i dont want to hit @..@ [09:52] Zordrak: maybe .[^.]* would do what you want? [09:52] ".." [09:52] thats it... ta [09:53] Action: Zordrak and regexps dont get on well [09:53] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] that's OK, bash's wild cards aren't exactly regexes [09:55] just seems insane theres no case to cover it normally [09:55] if they were, that would have been \.[^.].* [09:55] Zordrak: --exclude=".." --exclude"." ? [09:56] which starts to look like line noise... [09:56] .* shouldnt match ./.. or * should match hidden [09:56] phrag: perhaps [09:56] there probably is a shell option to make * match hidden files [09:56] you'd have to wade through "man bash" to find out [09:57] theres a bash setting called "match-hidden-files" [09:57] but either it doesnt apply to * wildcards or this bash is too old [09:57] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [09:58] toshiba510cdt (n=toshiba5@106.Red-83-56-227.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] can anyone recommend me a free as in freedom currently developed console cd player that comes with mixer and equalizer?? [09:59] nothappenin [09:59] you talking to me? [10:05] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [10:07] toshiba510cdt: mplayer has a equalizer and you can change volume within it [10:07] Zordrak, .??* is also good for matching hidden files but not . or .. [10:08] the --exclude="." stuff would have to be supported by the application, BTW [10:08] .??* misses .a [10:08] Urchlay, it does in fact. but it's easier to remember. [10:09] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:11] hm, does mplayer even play audio CDs? I never checked... [10:11] yes [10:11] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:11] ah, cdda://[track] [10:12] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [10:12] mplayer on ancient pentium 133 MHz??? [10:12] sure, if all you're using it for is to play audio CDs, why not? [10:13] You could..you know..get hardware from this century [10:13] (well, it would take a while to compile, but you only have to do that once) [10:13] marian_ (n=marian@190.80.250.189) joined ##slackware. [10:13] Hello :) [10:14] howdy [10:15] :D Hello Urchlay [10:22] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:28] warden (n=wardenis@pool-96-240-29-132.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:30] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [10:32] Matthew_Murdock (n=user@91.150.114.148) joined ##slackware. [10:36] hi, i have slackware 12.2 and i wanted to update firefox (currently i have 3.0.7) to 3.0.8, but when i type : "upgradepkg mozilla-firefox-3.0.8-i686-1.tgz" i get this : "Error: there is no installed package named mozilla-firefox-3.0.8-i686-1". in /var/log/packages i have only "mozilla-firefox-3.0.7-i686-1-upgraded-2009-04-22,16:29:54". can someone help me? [10:37] Matthew_Murdock: Where'd you get the updated package? [10:37] from slackware.com [10:37] Matthew_Murdock: You can pull the latest firefox build from -current.. its just a binary repackaging [10:37] So you ran upgradepkg [10:38] Nick change: Floops[w]1 -> Floops[w] [10:38] Dominian: yeah, i downloaded security fix (like i always do) and i was not able to upgrade it... [10:38] Dominian: from http://www.slackware.com/security/viewer.php?l=slackware-security&y=2009&m=slackware-security.351329 [10:39] redownload it [10:39] maybe a bad download? [10:39] does firefox load on your system? [10:39] (eg, is it actually installed?) [10:39] thrice: yes, old version [10:39] can you removepkg it? [10:39] or did you install it through some other means? [10:40] http://silentcoder.co.za/silentcoder/?p=597A so true, at least for OOo [10:40] Nick change: marian_ -> ^Marian^ [10:41] thrice: just a moment [10:41] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433931.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:41] Matthew_Murdock: mv "mozilla-firefox-3.0.7-i686-1-upgraded-2009-04-22,16:29:54" "mozilla-firefox-3.0.7-i686-1" ; then run upgradepkg on the new one. Looks like your upgrade got interrupted somehow [10:41] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433931.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:41] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [10:42] <^Marian^> and does upgradepkg --install-new *.tgz help? [10:43] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: No route to host [10:44] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:44] grissiom (n=grissiom@221.221.29.243) joined ##slackware. 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[10:48] i need to initally dl it [10:48] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:49] ^Marian^: no, i am afraid :) [10:50] <^Marian^> well .... it may work [10:50] ^Marian^: i will when i redownload it [10:50] <^Marian^> ohh ok :P [10:50] grissiom (n=grissiom@221.221.29.243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:51] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "pebkac, id-10-t clicked the X ^_^" [10:52] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:52] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [10:53] rworkman: thanks, your solution worked... ^Marian^ Dominian: thank you also. [10:53] <^Marian^> :) I'm glad [10:53] grr... I need to rename my cluster now... one of my nodes failed [10:53] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: "2+2=5. You better believe it." [10:54] ninelittleendians doesn't have the same ring, though [10:55] btw, someone know why there is no seamonkey-1.1.15-i486-1_slack12.2.tgz package on http://www.slackware.com/security/viewer.php?l=slackware-security&y=2009&m=slackware-security.405420 ? [10:56] because it's been updated to 1.1.16, perhaps? [10:56] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009004004.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:56] mmlj4: oh well, if it's not there, then i dont need it... :) [10:57] although, your 3.0.8 is already obsolete, as 3.0.9 should be showing up soon enough ;) [10:57] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [10:58] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:58] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:58] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:59] thrice: well, one of these days i will put slackware current and update it with some cool script (this manual upgrade is painfull) :) [10:59] use alienBOB s rsync script. its the only decent way to follow current [11:00] Matthew_Murdock: slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all [11:00] Matthew_Murdock: have you tried slackpkg? [11:01] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) joined ##slackware. [11:01] no, i didn't know it exist. was it in 12.1, didnt see it? what is this? [11:01] it was in extra/ for 12.1, and moved to ap/ for 12.2 [11:02] sahko: yeah, thanks, i will try it in a few days. [11:03] slackpkg does the same afaik i just havent used it personally. totally forgot about it [11:04] i am afraid of these new things :) but it looks good [11:04] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [11:05] ... slackpkg is hardly "new" [11:05] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "Leaving" [11:05] marian_ (n=marian@190.166.163.85) joined ##slackware. [11:06] BP{k}, I could say that GNU/HURD is really new *to me* ;) [11:06] aperturefever` (n=abell@athedsl-195139.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:06] toshiba510cdt (n=toshiba5@106.Red-83-56-227.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:06] Camarade_Tux: that's a difference ;) [11:07] BP{k}: well, new in a way that is "official" in 12.2 :) [11:07] BP{k}: hope you dont mind me asking but are you Dutch? [11:07] offtopic alert [11:07] checkinstall is not on slackware 12.2 right? [11:07] sahko: yep. [11:08] I wouldn't use checkinstall [11:08] its a POS [11:08] BP{k}: can you tell me who owns the Dust post offices? do they belong to the state? [11:08] s/Dust/Dutch [11:08] BP{k} isn't.. Dutch.. he's Irish just born Dutch [11:09] cause they must be the most expensive ones in Europe [11:09] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [11:09] sahko: uhm. Good question. I am not sure these days. I haven't lived in the Netherlands since 2002. However as far as I believe they are not 100% state owned, although the state might be the majority stakeholder still [11:09] ^Marian^ (n=marian@190.80.250.189) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:09] off to work....bbl [11:10] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.50) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:10] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: [11:10] oh, i see, kinda like most things these days. thanks [11:10] sahko: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_N.V. [11:10] marian__ (n=marian@190.80.249.181) joined ##slackware. [11:10] yes i read that yesterday [11:11] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:11] they are way too expensive [11:12] and Greece being in the third-world-European-zone makes it even worst [11:13] sahko: *shrugs* like I said, I don't visit the Netherlands much these days, apart obligatory family-{crisis,visits} [11:14] well im buying stuff regularly from there. i wonder if paying 1-2 visits a year will be saner [11:14] and less money spending than their pricing [11:15] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [11:16] Nick change: marian__ -> ^Marian^ [11:16] what do you mean by expensive, say 100% more expensive than Greek postal services or even worse? [11:16] bijit (n=benji@200.122.188.156) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:16] the average wage in the NL is almost 2.5 times the one here. [11:17] so for locals they should be OK [11:17] Matthew_Murdock (n=user@91.150.114.148) left irc: "gone" [11:17] psychicist: yes. normally 2xgreek=nl maybe more [11:18] sahko: meh, if you coun't the prices of flights and all. I am ntot sure you would be off that much cheaper [11:18] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host65-79-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "brb" [11:19] I didn't know that there were such big differences in income between two long-term EU members, I understand your concerns now [11:21] what command is used to convert html to doc? [11:22] well for a newly emplyeed person the income in Greece is around 750 Euros. Depending on the job of course. [11:22] anyway i shoul probably send em a letter of complaint [11:22] somehow [11:22] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-199450.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:22] Nick change: aperturefever` -> aperturefever [11:22] EOD [11:24] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. 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[12:13] today i accidentally let a chown -R foo / run for about 1500ms [12:14] on PRODUCTION mailserver [12:14] Zordrak must have had unsettling dreams, for he woke up one morning transformed into a giant vermin. [12:14] hi all, how to configure running process ? on backtrack [12:15] Flori4n: \backtrack [12:15] Flori4n: #backtrack [12:15] ok [12:15] thx [12:15] Flori4n (n=root@AToulon-156-1-73-204.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [12:15] jnylin (n=jnylin@193.11.73.10) left irc: "Leaving" [12:17] 'ello fellow slackers [12:17] alkos333 (i=alkos333@gateway/tor/x-6e2283cb8aa6ec64) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:18] frullet (n=Bob@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [12:18] '0 [12:18] "ffs what is happening to me," he thought lying on his back, watching his many legs waive helplessly about. [12:20] i_is_cat_ (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: "BitchX: don't leave home without it!" [12:21] haha.. whoever put that latest quote into noobfarm... classic [12:22] lol [12:23] How can I fix this error from Mplayer? Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. [12:25] either pick a different video output device, or figure out what's wrong with the one it wants to use [12:25] yep [12:25] can we have a little more detail? [12:25] I'm just trying to play a DVD testing the SBo of Mplayer I just installed. [12:26] OK, have you configured mplayer at all? (if not, it's wanting to use -vo xv by default I think) [12:26] Floops[w] (n=baihu@floopsie.broker.freenet6.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:27] I've never used Mplayer before so I did not know I needed to configure it past the SBo install. I'll check it thanks. [12:27] frullet (n=Bob@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:27] Floops[w] (n=baihu@floopsie.broker.freenet6.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] well, normally, you don't [12:28] Dominian: noobfarm question: if there is only one result, the the text No...B text to be "NoB"? [12:28] frullet (n=Bob@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [12:28] I mean, most peoples' xorg setups, support the default ("-vo xv", which is X with the XVideo extension)... try running "xvinfo" [12:28] nobfarm? [12:29] Urchlay: yep [12:29] frullet (n=Bob@124-168-168-79.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:30] lol ok changed it to X11( Ximage/Shm ) and it shows video but still gave me an error. I'll keep messing around with the configuration. Urchlay i did xvinfo its v2.2 screen #0 no adaptors. [12:30] lf4: ideally, you want to use -vo xv (it gives the best performance). What video card and driver are you using? [12:31] Mtty (n=Mtty@32.171.223.191) joined ##slackware. [12:32] ATI X1250 on board and the drivers are lol standard that come with Slackware 12.2 since I was having issues trying to install the 9.3 ones. [12:33] are you using the actual ati driver (or radeon), or are you using the framebuffer driver (which is what the default xorg.conf uses in Slackware)? [12:33] vastina (i=jaird@64.215.163.98) joined ##slackware. [12:33] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:33] good morning slackers [12:34] who has a pulse right now? [12:34] agiofws_ (n=agiofws@athedsl-433931.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:34] Urchlay: I would guess its the framebuffer but I forget how to check drivers. [12:34] Sorry I'm pretty out of it since I took Nyquil. [12:35] lf4: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (unless you've changed things around a lot, it should be the last occurrence of the string 'Driver') [12:35] ok [12:35] radeonhd [12:35] hm. In that case, wonder why xvideo is broken [12:36] grep -i xvideo /var/log/Xorg.0.log [12:36] NaCl: eh? [12:36] what about radeohd? [12:37] Necos: he's using radeonhd and can't get XVideo extension to work (xvinfo goes 'no adaptors found') [12:37] Necos: mplayer is giving me an error using xv but not X11. [12:37] Urchlay: (II) Loading extension XVideo [12:37] (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation [12:37] lf4: well that part looks normal anyway [12:37] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:37] lf4, can you pastebin your xorg.conf? [12:37] or did he already? [12:37] nah [12:37] yeah I can pastebin the xorg.conf [12:37] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:38] and btw, what version of the driver are you using? [12:38] nvision (n=nvision@g229072018.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:38] anyway, i'm planning to run k3b and some crossover crap, i don't run the elephant (KDE) but i'm curious, do i need the kde libraries or the kde base system? [12:38] to whoever wants to pick that question up [12:38] rebichada (n=root@abe.rcom.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [12:38] xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/1399797 [12:38] yes [12:39] hi people [12:39] vastina: definitely need kde libraries to run k3b (or any kde app)... and AFAIK you need kdebase too (whenever you run a KDE app, if KDE isn't already running, it fires up a bunch of KDE daemons...) [12:39] hola gente! [12:39] hi rebichada [12:39] lf4, what version of the driver? [12:39] Urchlay: you probably know why i don't want to run the elephant.... should i skip the k3b? your humble opinion [12:40] ls /var/log/packages/*radeonhd* [12:40] vastina, just use it... >.> [12:40] vastina: well I've always been happy burning CDs with mkisofs and cdrecord (or DVDs with growisofs). AFAIK, k3b is just a frontend to those [12:40] Necos: Don't know how to check. Do you think it could have something to do with the DVDNAV=yes that I included when building Mplayer? Any known issues? [12:40] k3b is nice but im not sure id go to the trouble on for instance a minimal openbox or fluxbox install. there are lighter apps that provide same functionality almost [12:40] Action: antler likes k3b [12:40] Necos: xf86-video-radeonhd-1.2.3-i486-1 [12:41] Urchlay: thank you very much, needed the second opinion [12:41] ah, lf4 [12:41] do this [12:41] vastina: thanks for the recommendations last time :) [12:42] Option AccelMethod "EXA" [12:42] in your device section [12:42] and restart X [12:42] who posted this quote: http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1500 [12:42] vastina: if you really want a GUI cd-burning frontend, you can probably find one that doesn't need KDE [12:42] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009004004.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:42] Urchlay: you know i really don't want a gui frontend, i just wanted to see k3b [12:43] but aside from dvd95 (which uses gnome's shit), you're not going to find a better shrinking program than k9copy [12:43] antler: makes me sound a bit silly asking huh? [12:43] haha [12:43] lol Dominian [12:43] Necos: not even a non-GUI one? [12:43] vastina: check out xfburn at SBo [12:44] not that i know of... [12:44] acidrip supposedly is really good [12:44] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) left irc: "forgot screen.. X{" [12:44] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) joined ##slackware. [12:44] H4ck3r (n=chatzill@pool-173-57-156-2.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Nick change: LifeForce4 -> LF4 [12:45] chopp: thank you very much, like i said to necos, and antler (making me sound like a hypocrit right now), i'm not much a fan of bloat... so not really looking for a gui fe [12:45] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) joined ##slackware. [12:45] lf4 http://pastebin.ca/1399811 [12:45] k3b was a suggestion by one of my mates who told me it was more "robust".... but the more i look at it, just look bloaty and not much more than a frontend to the cli solutions [12:46] it is actually... [12:46] Floops[w] (n=baihu@floopsie.broker.freenet6.net) left irc: No route to host [12:46] some very useful features [12:46] Floops[w] (n=baihu@floopsie.broker.freenet6.net) joined ##slackware. [12:46] vastina: i always install k3b on family machines but rarely use it myself outside of a full kde env [12:46] is it alright to startx with in screen? [12:47] what's differences between using system calls and using normal lib functions in C ? What's the benefit of using system call in C? [12:47] :) [12:47] Dominian: if I do a search for NaCl on noobfarm, the result is one page long, and the "N o o o ... b" on the top/bottom of the page is simply "N o B" [12:48] pepperjack: that's what the intention of this machine is, but i just hate the elephant (KDE) [12:48] k9copy is great, except the older versions at least (that still work on KDE 3.5) crash on exit, on 64-bit [12:48] haha [12:48] NaCl: I see [12:48] H4ck3r: nice nick man... [12:48] :) [12:48] so you're a NoB [12:48] ;) [12:48] heh, yeah [12:48] haha [12:48] vastina: i'm using public comp :) [12:48] can't test newer k9copy versions without kde4, and not real interesting in doing that [12:48] I'll see about fixing that [12:48] vastina: not my nick, my nick should be N00b [12:48] H4ck3r: equally amusing [12:49] Taken me over half an hour to reset all the permissions [12:49] :) [12:49] heh a bloated app (if the system is fast enough) is Not like a bloated tummy :) [12:49] wish i knew why it cant just progress through the FS in dir order [12:49] haha Necos was I suppost to add that line to xorg.conf? [12:49] Zordrak: it's probably depth-first [12:50] Urchlay: must be more than that [12:50] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:50] Urchlay: i'm not really interested in kde or gnome, i prefer lean quick code on fast hardware [12:50] it hit almost randomly across /usr/bin /var /proc /sbin etc [12:52] vastina: silly asking? not to me. :) [12:53] antler: :) how are you today mate? [12:54] Zordrak: it also probably reads the directory and processes the stuff in each dir, in the order it happens to be stored in (not alphabetically) [12:54] vastina: i am well. looks as if the woman loosened your leash, gave it some slack? :P [12:54] nod__ (n=nod@esi131.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:54] what's differences between using system calls and using normal lib functions in C ? What's the benefit of using system call in C? :( [12:55] which is sort-of like creation time order, except if files have been deleted, then more files created, the new ones might fill in the "holes" left by the deleted ones (that's actually completely filesystem-dependent, AFAIK) [12:55] antler: yeah, i budged... been on irc since the age of 12... after about 13 years, i think i can give some slack :) [12:55] i figured out why my kernel modules werent loading [12:55] H4ck3r: system calls are faster (since library functions are generally written so that they call the system calls anyway) [12:56] vastina: hehe [12:56] cuz you have to update slackware rc.modules by hand [12:56] H4ck3r: but standard library functions are more portable [12:56] H4ck3r: n00b, system calls are architecture hardware specific; there's my limp answer [12:56] Nick change: nod__ -> nod [12:56] i ended up for each file in /lib/modules/2.6.29.1-s10/*.ko add a line /sbin/modprobe to the rc.modules [12:56] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Gameover" [12:57] system calls provide more control over the system than library functions right? [12:57] well, nah, they're platform-dependent, but most UNIX-flavored platforms support a common set of syscalls (such as open(), read(), write()...) [12:57] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:57] H4ck3r: less portability of the code, system calls are bespoke to the archiecture... [12:57] also, #c [12:58] Necos: Didn't work looks like this might not have a simple fix thats an "ah-ha" type. I'm not feeling well I'll have to leave it for another day. Thanks for the help though. :) [12:58] NaCl: I got my guy who wrote the pagination looking at that [12:59] lol wha? [12:59] straterra: he *could* be asking about pascal... or assembly language :) [12:59] vastina: how are you? [13:00] Except..he specifically asked about C [13:00] cobol ftw! [13:00] http://pastebin.ca/1399811 <--- LF4 [13:00] fortran ftw! [13:00] eh? did he say C? I missed that... [13:00] oh. Yah, he did [13:00] 12:54 < H4ck3r> what's differences between using system calls and using normal lib functions in C ? What's the benefit of using system call in C? :( [13:00] I did add that line to my xorg.conf but it did not help fix it. [13:00] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-6f295c2c3665bfd3) left irc: [13:00] that's my xorg.conf [13:00] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host140-197-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:00] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:00] yeah, you didn't have to paste that, I looked up a couple lines & saw it [13:01] Are you saying I should add more then the one Option EXA line? [13:01] sorry that's my fault [13:01] I tried to join #C 30 minutes ago [13:01] compare yours to mine LF4 [13:01] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:01] antler: not bad, just working my daily IT work, building a slack box to my left and listening to some tunes. [13:01] but I ca'nt because I have to register nickname [13:01] so that's why I posted my question here [13:01] Alright I'll do that :) [13:02] the real quesiton is, did you put it in the right place [13:02] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [13:02] Necos: should I merge and differences? yes I did add it to the right location. I can pastebin my xorg.conf file if you would like. [13:03] i don't think it'd hurt (outside of the boardname) [13:03] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-150-144.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:03] i'm sing 1.2.5 btw [13:03] *using [13:04] I have to admit adding that line did speed up my X start up. [13:04] so anyways slackware should have a command to automatically add your new modules to /etc/rc.d/rc.modules [13:04] i was thinking of making one [13:04] anyone in here ever use truecrypt with slack? [13:04] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:04] and when you remove your modules methoxy? [13:05] methoxy: eh, isn't udev supposed to magically be loading modules, these days? [13:05] Necos: http://pastebin.ca/1399847 [13:06] methoxy: it does have a command to add a module to rc.modules: echo 'modprobe whatever' >> /etc/rc.d/rc.modules [13:06] fevel (n=fevel@201.18.17.109) joined ##slackware. [13:06] Well [13:06] i have bluetooth in my machine and udev isnt loading anything for it [13:06] or its going undetected [13:07] i have CONFIG_BLUETOOTH* everything added [13:07] LF4, hmmm.... looks good... you might want to add the backingstore option too [13:07] Alright testing it now... [13:07] if my bluetooth isnt working should i add everything CONFIG_BT_* to my rc.modules? [13:08] or my kernel [13:08] rather [13:08] guess not, next question, what is that [sometimes right hilarious] programme that feeds you a random quote on each new term? don't want it [13:08] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:08] vastina: fortune [13:08] fortune [13:08] i don't want to install it, annoys me [13:08] thank you! [13:08] you can remove the quote [13:08] what series? [13:08] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:08] why do you want to not install it [13:08] games [13:08] or something [13:08] vastina: y series [13:09] Urchlay: cheers [13:09] bsd-games ? [13:09] maybe [13:09] in fact it might be the only package in Y these days (bsd-games) [13:09] nah, the Y package has plenty of fun old games for "old farts" like us [13:09] fortune is fun :) [13:10] Like urmom [13:10] haha [13:10] straterra: you would know ;) [13:10] I would [13:11] Necos: Still same thing only I'm getting more error messages (like 5) lol started when I added the EXA option. [13:11] vastina: kust remove the executable bit from /etc/profile.d/bsd-games-login-fortune.sh [13:11] All this problem is pointing to the drivers though... so maybe I need to get those updated some how. [13:12] svw251 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] alienBOB: thank you very much, quite helpful [13:13] rebichada (n=root@abe.rcom.com.ar) left ##slackware. [13:13] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] alienBOB: by the way, i really enjoy your auto script in the setup for discovering network interfaces, seems robust and speedy [13:15] LF4, yeah, but getting the updated driver requires xorg-server >= 1.5 [13:15] just fyi [13:15] havent tried across many diverse machines so i don't know how robust it is, but it was quick [13:15] i've built it (since i'm on 12.1) [13:15] Oh lol [13:16] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-55-214-182.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:16] hi fellas [13:16] Hi stillborn [13:16] anyone care to share their experience with mcabber? it's itneresting me a bit [13:16] *s/itneresting/interesting [13:16] trying to get pidof to work with user, confused [13:17] visudoed already, still needs root privileges [13:17] vastina: I use it, irregularly [13:17] vastina: mcabber comes with a nice guide on the homepage. and the source includes a very decent config file prototype [13:17] alienBOB: your humble opinion? [13:17] It is great, small, lots of security features [13:17] sahko: thanks [13:18] I do the dutch translation for mcabber and made sure it got added to Slackware [13:18] it can also do otr but you have to recompile it i think [13:18] Off the record messaging [13:18] alienBOB: which encryption algorithms does it incorporate? [13:18] Who was the one trying to get the newest ATI drivers working? [13:18] sahko: answered me right there [13:19] thanks [13:19] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-55-214-182.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] fuck you suid! [13:19] so otr requires a recompile? [13:19] Philadelphia (i=bno@118-168-234-247.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] libotr is not part of slackware [13:20] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/libraries/libotr/ [13:20] sahko: sweet, ta very much [13:20] You can get otr and the needed libs from slackbuilds. [13:20] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [13:20] Install libotr and *then* recompile mcabber [13:20] i made a request to include it, but havent heard back yet [13:21] wardenxvx (n=wardenis@pool-96-240-29-132.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] alienBOB: clearly, thanks :) [13:22] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433931.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:22] LF4, the opensource ones? [13:22] H4ck3r (n=chatzill@pool-173-57-156-2.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:22] Action: vastina just wishes he could palate iptables at this point... adore bsd's pf [13:22] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433931.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:23] aw no! where did the l33t h4ck3r go??? [13:23] svw251 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:24] Necos: I think it was the Proprietary Linux driver they were trying to get working. [13:24] oh [13:24] i gave up on fglrx... lol [13:25] it tends to break things [13:26] and FINALLY the mail server is working again!! [13:26] Necos: what card are you trying to get moving? [13:26] lol yeah i've noticed I did a fresh install of 12.2 and then try to install those and it messed everything up and I did a fresh install again haha this time I figured I'd time how long it took... Full install takes 23 mins about lol [13:26] vastina: nothin, i've been using the radeonhd driver since 1.2.0 or whatever [13:27] Necos: ATI's propietary code has been a thorn in the arse for me, hate to say it but the nvidia stuff is so much more clean, wish they'd just open source it and get it over with, it's going to be parallel engineered eventually anyway [13:29] depending upon the card it's either a dream or disaster [13:29] no in between it seems [13:29] quit [13:29] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: "2+2=5. You better believe it." [13:30] duryodhan (n=duryodha@nat/yahoo/x-fde281648f0088a1) left irc: "leaving" [13:30] I like nVidia much better too... this is my only ATI hardware. but all my nVidia's I got to work with not much hassle. [13:30] kind of have to agree with theo de raadt on the video issue, they write pure evil, comingled low-level calls with the proc [13:31] too busy to cite that right now... [13:31] i've had no problems with radeonhd so far (cept for not knowing all the otptions for the driver) [13:31] grazymax (n=grazymax@host183-207-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows :-)" [13:31] *options [13:32] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Necos: so to get the 1.2.5 I need Xorg 1.5 server or greater? [13:32] yeah [13:32] basically, what you should do is look at the x11 slackbuild process [13:32] because you'll also need to upgrade the prototypes for the various libraries [13:33] it took me a while to set it up (downloading, etc) [13:33] denovaldo (n=chatzill@201.36.214.116) joined ##slackware. [13:34] Alright I'll take a look at it and see if I want to really attempt it or can live with out it for now. I did figure out a buggy way to get mplayer to show the video in the options. [13:34] ^Marian^ (n=marian@190.80.249.181) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:34] use gmplayer with x11 output =p [13:34] "I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because i screwed it up. Not because it doesn't like me... Or feels threatened by me... Or thinks I'm a smart ass... Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here... " -The Manifesto [13:34] denovaldo (n=chatzill@201.36.214.116) left ##slackware. [13:36] are there admins out there still using rsh??? really?... [13:36] IN the company where I do consultancy, yes [13:36] And telnet too [13:36] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [13:36] Action: vastina cringes at telnet [13:37] uva (i=bno@118-168-234-247.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:37] plaintext passes... [13:37] yikes [13:37] Mtty (n=Mtty@32.171.223.191) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:38] alienBOB: and you haven't consulted them AWAY from such practices? or are you encrypting them through a gateway? [13:38] Slackware = Standard Transmission [13:38] Unfortunately I have no say in it [13:38] Ubuntu = Automatic Tranmission [13:38] is that right? [13:38] alienBOB: is it tunneled? [13:38] standard transmition? [13:38] Linux doesn't use a transmition [13:38] I thought so [13:38] ubuntu = scooter [13:38] lol [13:38] haha [13:39] Linux has no spinning parts..its a kernel [13:39] alienBOB: must be challenging, don't ever leak their name out! [13:39] :D [13:39] haha [13:39] slackware = supercar [13:39] Gentoo = what? [13:39] Unicycle [13:40] heh [13:40] neonflux_^ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:40] .. [13:40] gentoo = humvee with 4 flat tires [13:40] lol [13:40] neonflux_^ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:40] it still goes, just very slowly [13:40] Fire Mission! [13:40] good one spook [13:40] slackware == car maker who doesn't add an alarm system because he believes its easier for people to break in to [13:40] (Pam) [13:40] straterra: well put [13:40] LF4: telnet only in the user VLAN. The server VLANs have VPN and ssh only [13:40] indeed [13:41] Nick change: neonflux_^ -> neonflux [13:41] nvision (n=nvision@g229072018.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:41] straterra : that makes no sense [13:41] ananke: neither do any of the other analogies [13:41] what are the alternatives to pam? [13:41] alienBOB: one of my largest security challenges was to keep up with sendmail.... huge and insecure [13:41] Since KDE 4.2 is in /kde, Does that mean that the next release will have KDE 4.2? [13:42] straterra : the original one made sense: standard vs automatic transmission. the rest are just idiotic [13:42] skibur: maybe, maybe not. [13:42] Thats better then the city I worked for... we used telnet for all networks I was shocked at the security faults they had and suggested to the other admins how to fix it but government takes months.... [13:42] Kerio2004 (n=Port@94.96.163.51) joined ##slackware. [13:42] I did think Pat was against pam because he thought it was a security issue [13:42] And I faintly remember something about him locking himself out with pam [13:42] skibur: its still undecided exactly when and what will be in next release [13:42] true [13:42] straterra: another level of the "onion" to compromise [13:42] apparently it's illegal to use encryption over ham radio bands, so ham operators that do IP over radio, can't do ssh [13:43] more than likely if its there in -current and doesn't get removed or moved back to /testing.. it will 99% surely be in the next release [13:43] straterra : and the sad fact is that there haven't been any pam related security issues for years now [13:43] I all for it, but KDE 3.5 is great [13:43] *I'm [13:43] Urchlay: Really I wonder why HAM radios have that law. [13:43] ananke: I honestly don't know if there have been or not..I just don't understand Pat's logic. [13:43] meaning not only are they sending passwords in the clear for telnet, but they're *broadcasting* them, possibly receivable in foreign countries even... [13:44] what would be a way in bash to get the filename out of a path [13:44] straterra : i think that eventually pat will change his mind [13:44] I hope so [13:44] lke /var/foo/ball/goat.tgz i just wanna extract the goat.tgz [13:44] then extract the word 'goat' [13:44] methoxy: sed [13:44] methoxy : 'basename' [13:45] ok [13:45] then cut -d'.' -f1 [13:45] methoxy: cut -d '/' -f 5 [13:45] methoxy : basename /var/foo/ball/goat.tgz .tgz [13:45] well nice i have usb_net now [13:45] and rndis_host [13:45] its already included with the kernel, no seperate downloads were necessary [13:45] lets reboot [13:46] now i should be rollin on cellular [13:46] nothing on slashdot about udev [13:46] ananke: do you use FBSD at all? [13:48] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. 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[13:53] no [13:53] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:53] Urchlay: Hahaha now that is funny... "You'll love HAM radio! It's 100% insecure! ;D" [13:53] removing the trailing / [13:53] nada [13:53] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) joined ##slackware. [13:53] git clone http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/repos/v86d.git [13:53] works perfect [13:53] yeah then it did [13:54] then when you said "nada" you should have said "it works" [13:55] now it wont compile ; ; [13:55] well, i ythink it's just about time to take the plunge and install 12.2 [13:55] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-150-144.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [13:56] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-150-144.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:56] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) left irc: Client Quit [13:56] Necos: 12.2's been out there for some time, would never EVER say ever is too late... but 12.2 is scheduled for a new update soon right? just came out in december if memory is serving me correctly without checking [13:56] Yeah [13:57] Action: vastina feels kind of weird being part of this... [13:57] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:57] I personally loved the 12.2 release, bunch of new drivers and stuff. [13:58] juust radeon dodnt work [13:58] at least for me:( [13:58] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:58] SynFlag (i=ice@unaffiliated/synflag) joined ##slackware. [13:59] first time i installed slack was... slack 3.1 back in 1996 i think... [13:59] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:59] hmmmm [13:59] hidee ho [13:59] heya Old_Fogie [13:59] Mine was 11.0 [13:59] haha i HATED going through all the media to install every series [13:59] Hi Old_Fogie. How are you? [13:59] hey Old_Fogie [13:59] :D [13:59] haha we made Old_Fogie's day [13:59] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [13:59] yeah was like "Norm!" [14:00] radeon works purrrrfectly for me. [14:00] fevel_ (n=fevel@200.222.210.162) joined ##slackware. [14:00] it didnt for for me, and from what i've googled it not uncommon problem [14:00] back in 1886, everything seemed so much mroe difficult... personally love what the community's become [14:00] left it several times admittedly [14:01] 1996**** [14:01] ahahah [14:01] lol [14:01] but only on ceratin graphic cards [14:01] Action: vastina is still laughing [14:01] no shit, what wasn't difficult in 1886??? [14:01] haha! [14:03] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-55-214-182.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:03] not getting sliced up in a tree mulcher? [14:04] Action: vastina so immediately thought of the film fargo [14:04] lol [14:04] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) joined ##slackware. [14:04] awesome movie [14:04] haha yeah [14:04] I recall version 10.0 not being so super. [14:04] Kernel was waaaaaay slow. [14:04] 10.0 was still using 2.4 [14:04] Action: vastina doesn't think he was with slack during v.10 [14:05] Iove the work being done on the scheduler nowadays. [14:05] I use a 2.4 on 11 and it's lightening, then again, that's for a pc that has MMX Technology (TM) :) [14:05] + l [14:05] Old_Fogie: every engineer's dream [14:05] MMX [14:06] Old_Fogie doesn't use legacy, he defines legacy [14:06] hah [14:06] ) [14:07] Nowadays, kids can boot up old slackware versions with kvm. [14:07] but yea, a 2.6 on that laptop, very slow. 2.4 works great. plus, it has 16 bit pcmcia card, and I've yet to get that to work with a 2.6.X series kernel on Slack [14:07] and have a good laugh at the user-interface. [14:07] _ohm (n=mark@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [14:08] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-150-144.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [14:08] Buggaboo: i was having a laugh at my own difficulty with the early versions of linux... i actually think i literally kicked a custom box into the wall over faulty hardware i couldn't fix and then the interface alone... can we say exasperating [14:09] i was 17 though, there were other issues in the head leading up to kicking hardware upon a wall [14:09] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:09] I could imagine. [14:09] yta594 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:09] I had something like that with a faulty nvidia card. 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[15:36] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:36] erisco (n=kambee@ip72-209-59-92.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.210.91) joined ##slackware. [15:40] kannan (n=kannan@121.246.242.95) joined ##slackware. [15:41] hello, i have just installed slack 12.1 . I am able to browse fine and can ssh into the box, but i cannot ping any IP or domain at all. how to resolve, please help [15:41] i can ping my gatway [15:41] and other LAN IPs [15:42] u sure to be connected [15:42] ? [15:42] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.210.91) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:42] kannan: had you setup default gw? (route -n) [15:42] psychild , i can browse fine, ping all the other machines on the LAN [15:42] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.210.91) joined ##slackware. [15:43] kannan: also check resolv.conf [15:43] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.107) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:43] caio , the DNS server are the same as the other machiones [15:43] i can use firefox just fine [15:43] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.107) joined ##slackware. [15:43] route -n shows the gw also corre tly [15:44] i just cant ping anything on the WAN, tho i am connected to the internet [15:44] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.107) left irc: Client Quit [15:45] kannan: check this file /etc/nsswitch.conf [15:45] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [15:45] Then your router's firewall may block ICMP packets [15:47] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [15:48] psychild , alienBOB , i will check thiese first and be back thanks [15:48] erisco (n=kambee@ip72-209-59-92.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [15:48] Thursap (n=bnguyen@58.187.182.62) joined ##slackware. [15:49] is there a command to mount a flash drive from terminal that like the action of plug it in? [15:50] mount! [15:50] ? [15:51] fevel_ (n=fevel@200.222.210.91) joined ##slackware. [15:51] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.210.91) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:52] i mean, the command can detect the name of drive and auto mount it to /media/, while i don't need to mkdir [15:52] pmount and ivman will do all that [15:52] google around .. there should be a guide somewhere [15:53] ivman basically catches hal events iirc and executes the commands you tell it .. pmount does the mounting in /media/... [15:53] iirc [15:54] who wants such flimsy stuff when they can mount manually! WHO? WHO? :D [15:55] hmm, reg the PING , i just see that i cannot ping from any of the machines on the LAn (the router is set to enabled ICMP) can it be the ISP can block ? [15:55] coz i am able to ping all PCs inside the NAT [15:55] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.203.43) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:55] kannan: the isp can do just about anything... including stop your torrents dead in the tracks! :P [15:56] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.203.43) joined ##slackware. [15:56] lns40: i've umount the drive, and now just want to re-mount it. so i think maybe there's a command to do it for me [15:56] lns40: if my isp dropped my torrents, i would route through different ports [15:57] vastina: aah yes the wonders of evasion ;) [15:57] Thursap: sure, its called mount :) [15:58] fevel_ (n=fevel@200.222.210.91) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:58] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.203.43) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:58] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.210.91) joined ##slackware. [15:58] lns40: but i dont want to mkdir, just like when plugging it in 8) [15:58] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.210.91) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:59] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.210.91) joined ##slackware. [15:59] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.175.170.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:59] Thursap: you do realize you only have to mkdir once ? :) [16:02] why dont i use some commands, such as "$ sudo fdisk -l", it always says: "command not found" ? [16:02] WindMaker (n=swarm@190.43.100.76) joined ##slackware. [16:02] WindMaker (n=swarm@190.43.100.76) left ##slackware. [16:03] i always have to perform such command under root [16:03] kozandr_ (n=kozandr@83.167.104.118) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:03] Thursap: thats because the dir with fdisk isnt in your $PATH [16:03] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.203.43) joined ##slackware. [16:04] lns40: but with mkdir, the dir does not disappear after plugging out the drive. and i hate that! [16:04] ? [16:04] What's wrong with it staying? [16:04] Thursap: its a mountpoint why would you want it to disappear... [16:05] Thursap: next time you want to mount that device you'll have a dir to mount it too [16:06] lns40: ok, so i guess i must add /sbin to $PATH [16:06] Thursap: thats right :) [16:06] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.29) joined ##slackware. [16:07] whoa, he asked why he has to run fdisk -l as root. [16:07] lol [16:09] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [16:09] Thursap: man fdisk, see options [16:09] haha [16:10] YAY its nille_ ! [16:10] hi lns40 [16:10] nille_: hello :) [16:10] hows everything today [16:11] nille_: its ok, mostly... getting ready to watch another episode of house :) [16:12] house never seen it [16:12] house m.d. [16:13] lns40: That's a good show. [16:13] Action: duryodhan agrees [16:13] firebird619: yeah... I like it... [16:13] the only serie i ever followed was the stargate series [16:13] Action: vastina still loves south-part.... the eat,pray, and queef.... the roadwarrior... aw yeah [16:13] kozandr (n=kozandr@83.167.104.118) joined ##slackware. [16:13] south park* [16:13] Nick change: Drgb -> BOFH [16:13] d4vidc (n=d@dynamic-216-227-7-166.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org" [16:14] vastina: I have the first 9 seasons of SP on dvd :) [16:14] lns40: nice.... see Eat, Pray, Queef.... ALMOST outdid imagionationland to me [16:14] but not quite.... imaginationland is the best [16:15] *s/imagionationland/imaginationland [16:18] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.210.91) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:18] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@201.234.200.99) joined ##slackware. [16:19] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:19] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) joined ##slackware. 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[16:42] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] how do i change the default gui ? [16:42] slackbook.org [16:43] xray7224: xwmconfig [16:43] ? [16:43] witz: gee..thanks.. thanks a bunch [16:43] lol [16:43] what about if i just complied one and its not listed ? [16:44] if i put slackware in to a blender and puree it in to a smoothie and pour it back in to my computer will it run better :D [16:44] lol [16:45] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [16:45] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.203.43) joined ##slackware. [16:46] xray7224: you ever seen a ~/.xinitrc file before? [16:46] yerp [16:46] hmm, i wonder what that file does [16:47] i prefer no sarcasm [16:47] sorry, fresh out [16:47] :P [16:47] xray7224: edit your ~/.xinitrc to load the WM [16:47] This should point in the right direction -> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/fluxbox-not-listed-in-xwmconfig-232333/ [16:47] you're right, they are being pretty useless [16:48] Google is your friend arrr. [16:48] thanks witz, thrice` and Pig_Pen [16:48] brb reboot. [16:48] np :) [16:48] xray7224 (n=xray7224@79-71-197-239.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:50] xwmconfig just changes a symlink named xinitrc and points it at the desired xinitrc. file in /etc/X11/xinit/ to your desired window manager (fairly certain) [16:51] i screwed that comment up grammatically, but the idea is correct [16:51] Yeah that article I linked, said that. [16:51] it creates a symlink? [16:52] just changes what file it points to, xinitrc.blahblahblah [16:52] Yeah with teh executable bit inside it [16:52] can you ls -l ~/.xinitrc ? [16:52] that should work too [16:53] ln -s [16:53] Yeah well if you wanted xwmconfig to see it, then you'd need to do the /etc/X11/xinit way [16:53] it was hot today, i feel frazzled from the heat [16:54] hey guys i just bought the domain LINUXWORKSHOP.NET for my business [16:54] do you think its nice? [16:54] cat /etc/X11/xinit/$OUTPUT > $HOME/.xinitrc [16:54] Yeah, I've been getting bad nose bleeds and stuff last nite/ [16:54] maybe before you give people shit, you should be sure yourself [16:54] let me startx and see methoxy [16:54] theres no content loaded on it [16:54] yet [16:54] i just bought it today [16:54] skapazzo (n=skapazzo@151.9.96.3) joined ##slackware. [16:54] im going to have an embedded video and basic contact info on it [16:55] is the URL case sensitive? [16:55] no theres no content on it yet [16:55] i just bought it [16:55] dont even have nameservers assigned yet [16:55] Action: vastina loves simple tools like dd, works so well for hacking the NTLDR for dual booting... screw lilo or grub, use what's already there [16:55] :D [16:55] im just wondering if its a catchy name that'll generate some income [16:56] erisco (n=kambee@ip72-209-59-92.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:56] if i do contract sys admin work [16:56] so far all i see is godaddy spam and sponsered links [16:57] yeah lol [16:57] thats cuz i just bought it like 10 mins ago [16:57] but godaddy is better than netsol cuz when you pay for priv8 registration, they REALLY keep your name private. netsol releases your full name to the public [16:57] and netsol has a better webmail but w/e im using roundcube now.. free [16:57] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.203.43) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:58] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [16:58] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.203.43) joined ##slackware. [16:58] love u [16:58] meth0xy (n=k@68-29-215-101.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] Linux s10 2.6.29.1-s10 #8 SMP Wed Apr 22 10:31:07 PDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [16:59] jesus. i hate when i type in the worng window [16:59] ;-) [16:59] i love you to lotec [16:59] meth0xy is rockin on the lenovo s10 ideapad [16:59] with rndis cellular eth1 device [16:59] isnt that sweet? [17:00] Action: vastina doesn't say anything, alienBOB would give him evil looks [17:01] k_wolf (n=wolf@201009046031.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:02] no, not really... [17:02] Xenius (n=Xenius@81.18.126.49) joined ##slackware. [17:02] hehehe [17:03] :) hey, remember what happened when someone [ahem] said they're a little teapot.... [17:03] then stupid i had to make a stupid comment [17:03] haha [17:03] Almost all my devices from /dev disappeared after 12.1-->12.2 upgrade [17:05] Wtf? Should I rm -rf /etc/udev or what? [17:05] er [17:05] no? [17:05] X=G [17:05] monstro (i=1000@201-92-54-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:06] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [17:06] Xenius: do that and everything will more than likely cease to work [17:07] Xenius: did you take care of all the .new files? Especially /etc/rc.d/rc.udev.new ? [17:07] e2fsck can't find root device and system asks me for root password [17:07] No... [17:08] yarvin (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) joined ##slackware. [17:08] meth0xy (n=k@68-29-215-101.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "meth0xy has no reason" [17:08] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.210.91) left irc: [17:08] So, should I replace /etc/rc.d/udev with new version and rm -rf /etc/udev? [17:09] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [17:09] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [17:09] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:11] i hope my friend that does HVAC can fix my central heat & air, the AC isnt coming on [17:11] neither is the heater [17:12] erisco (n=kambee@ip72-209-59-92.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:13] grazymax (n=grazymax@host183-207-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [17:14] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@201.234.200.99) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:16] hopefully it's not a leak >.> [17:16] nullboy, I read before. So should I replace all udev confs with *.new versions (haven't edited it before)? [17:17] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: Client Quit [17:17] no, you need to properly merge them in [17:17] monstro (i=1000@201-92-54-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [17:18] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:18] Xenius: you can just replace it [17:18] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.203.43) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:18] Xenius: but, like the upgrade documentation said to do...you should have a backup of all your old configs. [17:18] Xenius (n=Xenius@81.18.126.49) left irc: [17:18] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [17:18] ... [17:19] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.203.43) joined ##slackware. [17:19] i think everyone reads those documents after the fact [17:20] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [17:21] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[17:25] the kde libs [17:25] i'm on kde4 in current [17:25] caio (n=caio@200.2.124.206) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:25] ah [17:25] k3b has not been fully ported over to kde4 yet which is why Pat is using svn revision pulls in -current [17:26] but there have been many changes since the svn rev that current uses [17:27] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.47) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:27] i hope k3b gets it together before much longer, i would expect slackware-13 to be released sometimes before the end of the year [17:27] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.203.43) left irc: "bye-bye" [17:27] What I meant earlier is I thought you managed to run it standalone. Without the need for other kde stuff installed. [17:27] i did say that though [17:28] i said the latest svn version builts [17:28] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [17:28] it has to have kde's libs & base & qt [17:28] that won't change [17:28] I wish it didn't hehe. [17:28] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [17:29] they seem to have fixed the screwed policykit dep issue [17:29] it doesn't bail out now [17:29] http://www.xcdroast.org/ [17:29] That's the only kde program I ever use, I should replace it with something else. [17:29] mikk01 (i=mikk01@YYCCLXXIX.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:29] xcdroast is nice but it can't hold a candle to k3b's functionality [17:30] sweet 6666 inbox messages [17:30] haha [17:30] yup, k3b is the cat's ass for cd/dvd burning in Linux [17:30] Well,the base libs and base aren't really big so I can't complain. [17:31] and for the other folder 6771 [17:31] heh [17:31] skapazzo (n=skapazzo@151.9.96.3) left irc: "leaving" [17:31] not to bad for 11 months worth of email [17:32] monstro (i=1000@201-92-54-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:32] do what i do after coming back to work from vacation 1) select all 2) delete [17:32] i have a yahoo account with that much email & spam in it, i have not checked it in months, yahoo might have deleted the account by now [17:32] well, usual rate :p [17:32] I have nearly 100k messages in my gmail box [17:32] pepperjack, nice [17:32] if its important they will send another email [17:33] yup, yahoo deleted it [17:33] Camarade_Tux, mine aren't spam those are all legit emails unfortunately [17:33] juice, mine aren't either ;) [17:33] the upside they are read [17:34] bummer [17:34] aidecoe (n=aidecoe@etiriah.ds.pg.gda.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:34] i never open email in my yahoo account, i just use it for signing in to places like slashdot & linuxquestions & etc [17:35] for those who were there yesterday, I was meant to do some powerpoint presentation, the solution I've chosen has been to open openoffice, put some garbage, save, open vim and 101100x which made the file simply unusable [17:35] then I just told the teacher "it's broken" ='( [17:35] Jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) joined ##slackware. [17:36] otoh I wouldn't even have needed that because somehow the file was cut to 12KB while it should have remained at about 1MB [17:36] monstro (i=1000@201-92-54-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [17:36] came across a handy tool today mtr [17:37] traceroute and ping in one app so while your tracing hops you can see the pings to them all [17:37] alice_ (i=alice@89.194.70.118) joined ##slackware. [17:38] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:38] oh, so that's 193.252.160.154 which is dropping all my packets ! [17:38] juice: http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/mtr/ [17:38] d4vidc (n=d@dynamic-216-227-7-166.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [17:39] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.63.37) joined ##slackware. [17:39] chopp: it got added to Slackware too [17:39] ahh ok [17:40] argh, actually it's isp throttling ! (I'm not at my _true_ home) [17:40] well good I don't have to request it [17:40] :) [17:41] the version in current is a tad outdated [17:42] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:43] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [17:43] wardenxvx (n=wardenis@pool-96-240-29-132.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:43] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:44] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:46] aidecoe (n=aidecoe@etiriah.ds.pg.gda.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:46] alienBOB, version 0.75 out about 5 months newer [17:47] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-195139.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "must sleep" [17:47] build it and they will come... [17:47] you find it strange slackware doesn't have the latest and greatest? :> [17:48] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.185.141) joined ##slackware. [17:48] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] thrice`, considering its from 09/19/2008 [17:49] i would rather have slightly dated software than have bleeding edge instability [17:49] it should work to have in current :P [17:50] hey guys type /dns ns1.kinetic-it.com what do you get [17:50] or nslookup [17:50] stupid godaddy wont let me put my nameservers in [17:50] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:50] the crappy part is the change log hasn't been updated [17:50] so who knows what was fixed [17:51] Read NEWS instead [17:51] i cant believe i got it working man [17:51] yeah [17:51] just found it alice_ [17:51] err alienBOB [17:51] The only thing left on the lenovo to get working: Broadcom bluetooth & Sound [17:51] oh and the USB camera is untested [17:51] i dont see anything about it in the bios [17:52] dmesg [17:52] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.175.170.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:54] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [17:56] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:56] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-75-35-180-38.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:57] juice: sure, but tarballs don't gain stability the longer they sit on a mirror ;) [17:57] http://imagebin.org/46546 this one badass biker chic [17:57] lol [17:57] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.1.169) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:57] alice_ (i=alice@89.194.70.118) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:58] they dont get better with age like wine? [17:58] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:58] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:58] a. they turn to vinegar [18:00] b. they rot in the sun [18:00] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.29) left irc: [18:00] c. the homemess makes soup out of em [18:01] *homeless [18:01] d. it becomes fertilizer [18:02] would you drink pruno>? [18:02] as long as i could run it through a coffee filter, sure [18:02] the mangled spelling answers the question already [18:03] thats disgusting [18:03] why? how do you think wine is made? [18:03] no but in prison they make pruno and it says they run it through a sock [18:03] that should work too [18:03] it's about as coarse as a coffee filter =p [18:04] i got one of thos starbucks plungers [18:04] hello happy slackers [18:04] i make my own cofee now [18:04] methoxy: it's called a french press [18:04] yep [18:04] a cotton t-shirt has a tighter weave than a sock [18:04] Pig_Pen: i was being somewhat sarcastic ^_~ [18:07] love_music (n=box@ip217-77-54-55-nat.sampo.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[18:20] othermindszine (n=othermin@80.sub-70-192-103.myvzw.com) left irc: Connection timed out [18:20] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [18:20] No i suck at web design [18:20] Science: Designing DNA Circuits To Brew Tastier Beer [18:20] i do the sql though [18:20] Action: vastina looks at the channel's name [18:20] i work with mysql [18:20] skibur (i=1000@12.197.207.232) joined ##slackware. [18:21] Pig_Pen: rubbish [18:21] i need it made perfect though [18:21] kernel using an initrd is by default in Slackware 12.2? [18:21] othermindszine (n=othermin@234.sub-70-192-40.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [18:23] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.88.177) left irc: "Leaving." [18:24] Pig_Pen: my brother once made some stuff he called "apple jack" that was supposedly what they drink in prison [18:24] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [18:25] (he's never been to prison, but after tasting his drink, I almost went to prison for assault...) [18:26] Urchlay: jungle juice is what they called it out here when i was in there, they put enough on their books to get a "honey bun" for the yeast and sugar, then ferment it in some shit water bottle or the meal-mug [18:26] homemade beer & wine is fine as long as the brewer knows what they are doing and use only the finest ingredients, but considering the limited access to ingredients & equipment to brew with in prison i would not trust it [18:26] random question... how do you get a list of fonts available for X? [18:26] yeah, it was something like that, though it did have apples in it [18:26] Pig_Pen: all about the mead, and as far as high end brews, you're right in the fact that the higher end the ingredient the higher end the final product, it's basically liquid cooking [18:27] Necos: showfont [18:27] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [18:28] Has anybody got Bootchart 0.9 working in Slackware 12.2? [18:28] what about xfontsel? is that app not worthy anymore? kde has a good fontviewer tool though [18:28] xlsfonts actually [18:28] ah! [18:29] Action: chopp curses nullboy for getting him started on EAP-TLS. :P [18:29] koojoo (n=zerafuze@74.13.33.202) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:29] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [18:29] fc-list [18:29] gave me a nice listing here [18:29] might want to page it through less [18:30] yeah, it's a long one [18:31] anyway people, time for me to leave my IT duty for the day, might see you all tonight, if not, happy slackin' [18:32] ccfreak2k (i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:32] word... take care mang [18:32] ccfreak2k (i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [18:32] yar [18:32] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:32] vastina (i=jaird@64.215.163.98) left irc: "peace" [18:33] i think there is way too many fonts, PCs only need three fonts, 1. sans, 2. serif, 3. monospace [18:33] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) left irc: "leaving" [18:33] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:33] FMDCH (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:34] a desktop should be cold and hard like a Russian turnip [18:36] lol [18:36] that's what she said? [18:37] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host140-197-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao!" [18:37] and anywho, in soviet russia, turnips freeze you [18:37] yup, thats why she married me, i look like a turnip [18:40] this is interesting (and scary)... I've got a directory where "ls -l" shows all files looking like: [18:40] ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? extra [18:40] (the names show up correctly though) [18:41] a bunch of question marks??? [18:41] yeah... OK, it turns out I don't have execute permission on the dir, though I do have read perm [18:42] which I'd expect would mean I could ls the directory but not cd to it [18:42] su [18:42] yeah, already checked, root can see it fine [18:45] nargon (n=mike@202.174.145.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:45] it just made me paranoid for a sec, cause I've had a filesystem die while I'm using it, and got similar-looking results [18:45] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.63.37) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:45] lol not a good thing [18:46] hmmm... what's the full Xresource name for sans? >.> [18:48] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@201.234.200.99) joined ##slackware. [18:49] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:49] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433931.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:49] which one? $ xlsfonts | grep -i sans | wc -l [18:49] evening hackers :-) [18:49] 2422 [18:49] Hi macavity. How are you? [18:49] hola, macavity [18:49] firebird619: good, you? [18:49] macavity: Doing great. Thank you. [18:50] actually that was a lie.. i am not doing too great [18:50] macavity: Oh no, how come? [18:50] the GF was just admitted to the psychiatric ward :-/ [18:50] oh crap [18:50] voulenterily that is [18:50] yarvin (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) left ##slackware. [18:51] well that's better than being dragged kicking & screaming at least [18:51] the confirmation this weekend took what was left [18:51] eh? [18:51] too much stress for too many years [18:51] the religious kind of confirmation, you're talking about? [18:51] yes.. the younger kid [18:52] actually it was a nonfirmation, as none of us are christian [18:52] that's supposed to be a happy occasion though... [18:52] but that aside [18:53] i was just at the hardware store and i saw a pretty girl working in the returns department who i've never seen there before...hmmm [18:53] HHMMMMM [18:53] Hey nullboy. How's it going? [18:53] all good [18:53] in the hood [18:54] nullboy better handle that shiznit [18:54] i'm going to go back but without a return or anything [18:54] it's going to be classic [18:54] lol [18:54] lol [18:55] macavity, that sucks man. I've had that happen to me (GF in the psych ward, though in her case it was involuntary) [18:57] greymaus2 (n=greymaus@86-46-220-208-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] ccfreak2k (i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:01] ccfreak2k (i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [19:04] hey i'm looking at the md5sum man page and it says --quiet suppresses the printing of OK for each successful check but will it still print failed? [19:05] the info page is just about has helpful too [19:05] has/as* [19:05] would have been the same amount of typing to try it as it was to ask in here :) [19:05] well trying it means waiting 45 minutes... [19:05] so i'll type a few lines and ask if anyone has experience [19:06] eh, you could create a tiny file to test it on [19:06] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl5-168-233.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:06] Urchlay: it is not uncommon that people with ADHD takes a trip to the ward... i just hope the system takes it seriously, and provides her with the help she needs [19:06] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.149.43.121) joined ##slackware. [19:07] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] Urchlay: fine! [19:07] now that's odd. md5sum on slack 12.2 doesn't seem to support --quiet (not in the man page, and doesn't accept it on the cli) [19:07] the answer is yes [19:08] well md5sum in -current sure supports it [19:08] --quiet makes it print only the fails [19:08] perfect [19:08] hm. can you md5sum --version, I'm curious [19:09] md5sum (GNU coreutils) 7.2 [19:09] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:09] you on slack -current or something? [19:09] yes [19:09] always [19:09] ah [19:09] i always run -current [19:09] 12.2 has --status but not --quiet [19:10] what version does md5sum under 12.2 print? [19:10] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.47) joined ##slackware. [19:10] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:10] md5sum (GNU coreutils) 6.12 [19:10] ah there we go [19:10] I coulda sworn it did have a --quiet option [19:11] i just tested the latest k3b svn by burning a slackware-current DVD and it worked [19:11] *shrug*, yet another of life's useless little mysteries [19:11] where did the slackware-current DVD come from? [19:12] damn it... [19:12] Pig_Pen: knowing nullboy, you probably don't want to know :) [19:12] Pig_Pen: i made it [19:13] greymaus_ (n=greymaus@86-46-193-2-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:14] damn it i can't get my mind off that girl i saw [19:14] rub one out...and play some CS:S [19:14] works for me [19:15] is she married nullboy ? [19:15] bah [19:15] That's not an issue [19:15] Remember King David [19:15] FMDCH (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:15] Pig_Pen: i have no idea [19:15] and like straterra said, i don't care ;) [19:15] lol [19:15] ask her, if she isnt ask her out on a date [19:15] screw that i'll take her out anyway [19:16] lulz [19:18] FMDCH (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:19] and when i do i'll come back in here...as [19:19] Nick change: nullboy -> nullman1 [19:19] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:19] amirite [19:19] Nick change: nullman1 -> nullboy [19:19] Floops (n=baihu@2001:470:a073:0:0:0:0:10) left irc: "changing servers" [19:20] you hesitated the first time you seen her [19:20] lol [19:20] didnt ask her out [19:20] i was busy [19:20] http://www.sourceradio.com/modules.php?name=Vault&page=watch&id=1692 [19:20] man has to do his shit first [19:20] skibur (i=1000@12.197.207.232) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [19:20] man has to fuckin multitask if he wants to get any ass from the ladies [19:20] =p [19:20] lol [19:21] or just..use the chloroform [19:21] says the world's leading supplier... [19:21] and consumer [19:21] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-230-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:22] SynFlag (i=ice@unaffiliated/synflag) left irc: "Lost Terminal" [19:23] whats the best linux web browser [19:24] is it still swiftweasel or is there a better one [19:24] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:24] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] straterra: is there a kind of chloroform substitute that will have the same effect on their attempts to resist.. but will still allow me to enjoy the sound of the screams? [19:24] i use firefox or minefield [19:24] firefox can drug women?!? [19:24] macavity: and we wonder why your GF is in the ward [19:24] lmao [19:25] she *likes* to scream [19:25] macavity: a skillet [19:25] methoxy: lynx is the best! [19:25] omzine (n=othermin@89.sub-70-192-188.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [19:26] or if you want a really bloated webbrowser use links -g [19:27] wtf why does my linux think my intel atom is a dual core? [19:27] it says brought up two cpus? [19:27] total 6000 bogomips [19:27] [ 0.101136] Total of 2 processors activated (6383.97 BogoMIPS). [19:27] weee [19:27] othermindszine (n=othermin@234.sub-70-192-40.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:28] [ 0.219258] hpet0: 3 comparators, 64-bit 14.318180 MHz counter [19:28] nice [19:28] i have a hpet [19:29] [ 0.329852] uvesafb: failed to execute /sbin/v86d [19:29] thats what im working on now, v86d segfaults on execution for some reason [19:30] arent bogomips monsters that live under your bed and in your closet? [19:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogomips [19:33] methoxy, atom has HyperThreading [19:34] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "shleep" [19:34] google chrome is out for linux? [19:35] methoxy: hyperthread [19:35] just use a browser like midori [19:35] straterra, pwned you ! [19:35] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-230-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] and urmom [19:35] eh? [19:35] I'm gonna go play some WoW [19:35] http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/BSoD [19:35] skg757 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:36] so since the cpu has hyperthreads [19:36] it shows up to l inux as two cpu's? [19:36] yes [19:36] how do i utilize that in say, folding @ home [19:36] yes indeed [19:36] You don't. [19:36] Intel's hyperthreading is a gimmick [19:36] Well..pre i7 anyway [19:36] i thought i took smp support out of my kernel [19:36] i put 1 cpu should i change it to 2? [19:36] the HT in i7 is a little more efficient [19:37] No [19:37] HT gives me a performance loss..I always turn it off [19:37] Just depends on your workload though [19:37] straterra, answer HT before you >< (that's stupid I know but it's nearly 2am and I knocked my head five minutes ago) [19:38] I've seen some nice performance improvements with HT [19:38] this is hilarious http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/04/chinese-hackers-nick-joint-strike-fighter-plans.ars [19:38] my home network is more secure than these government agency networks [19:38] bunch of douchebags [19:38] nullboy, worse : http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/An-Unlikely-Network-Outage.aspx ;) [19:40] lol [19:40] see ya tomorri folks [19:40] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [19:40] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:41] wow man 142kb/sec peak from sourceforge.net with my cellular [19:41] so speedy [19:41] its like a pocket T1 [19:41] Camarade_Tux: i'd go ballistic [19:42] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:42] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:42] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl5-168-233.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [19:42] i'd freaking loose it, try to sue that lady for sabotage of a private network [19:42] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:43] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.47) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:45] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:45] pattwo (n=patrick@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] Action: Old_Fogie waves hello to the chann. [19:46] Action: nullboy bites off Old_Fogie's flapping hand [19:46] night Old_Fogie :) [19:47] i just *love* the kind of "exploits" that requires root access to work... 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[19:51] Hey, what do i work with to assign a drive to a flash card as i insert it [19:51] like if i put a flash card in my SD card slot, it automatically mounts it to /dev/sdb1 [19:51] to /mnt/flash1 [19:51] or if i plug my phone in as a hard drive, it does /mnt/flash2 [19:52] i might make /mnt/touchpro idk [19:52] flash1/2 is kinda generic [19:52] set it up in fstab with a UUID [19:53] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-230-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:53] insert one of them and look at this: ls -alh /dev/disk/by-uuid/ [19:53] haha, he-man! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPPqDUDzsek&NR=1 [19:53] so if i add an entry in /etc/fstab it gets loaded automagically? [19:54] nope, you'd have to set a udev rule for it to assign to a specific location [19:54] Nick change: _Floops -> Floops [19:54] no you don't [19:54] UUID=0b43549b-6775-470f-9a84-37e283449389 /BACKUP ext3 defaults,noatime,noauto 1 1 [19:54] as an example [19:54] that is in fstab [19:54] hal will respect that? [19:54] it doe for me [19:54] its fat32 [19:54] the chip is [19:54] methoxy: so what [19:54] ok [19:54] ... [19:55] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@201.234.200.99) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:55] its /dev/sdb1 for my sd card slot in netbook [19:55] is that always going to be the same? [19:55] dude [19:55] read what i posted [19:55] what does the last two digits mean [19:55] in the fstab, the 1 1 or 0 1 [19:56] man fstab [19:56] where do i get my uuid [19:56] omfg [19:56] i told you already ls -alh /dev/disk/by-uuid/ [19:56] blkig, vol_id [19:56] ok sry [19:56] (2009-04-22 16:53:30) nullboy: insert one of them and look at this: ls -alh /dev/disk/by-uuid/ [19:57] sticks (n=drum@ppp118-208-115-228.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [19:58] in my example " UUID=0b43549b-6775-470f-9a84-37e283449389 /BACKUP ext3 defaults,noatime,noauto 1 1 " you might want ditch the noauto [19:58] that's up to you to figure out though [19:58] nargon (n=mike@202.174.145.186) joined ##slackware. [19:58] and it'll just work? [19:58] try it and see [19:59] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [20:00] nargon (n=mike@202.174.145.186) left irc: Client Quit [20:00] nargon (n=mike@202.174.145.186) joined ##slackware. [20:00] nargon (n=mike@202.174.145.186) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:01] nope, thrice` is right [20:01] that will only work on bootup [20:01] sad but true [20:01] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [20:02] so now to whip a udev rule out of my butt [20:02] i'll stay clear of that one [20:02] lol [20:03] its not mounting it [20:03] oh [20:03] good lord [20:03] i want automount [20:03] like bam it works [20:03] are you running a desktop environment ? [20:03] not yet [20:03] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.207.82) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:03] kinda yeah [20:03] im in fluxbox [20:03] then you're not [20:04] so kde does this automatically? [20:04] i wanna get KDE 4 [20:04] yep [20:04] well, udev + dbus + hal + kwin [20:04] fluxbox isn't smart enough to know what to do with it, but kde / xfce would [20:05] ah i see why mine automounts...my warm swap script does it and i had forgotten about that [20:05] i run my warm swap script which lets me safely remove my dvd-rw module and insert my sata disk module [20:05] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [20:06] good night [20:06] so if i do the instructions to get slackware current im good right [20:07] get kde 4 [20:07] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.10.122) joined ##slackware. [20:07] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [20:07] methoxy: you shouldn't run the current tree unless you're ready to deal with it [20:07] there are many SBo build scripts that are not compatible yet because -current is never a versioned release [20:08] is there an other way [20:08] not for kde4, no [20:08] so i cant get kde 4? [20:09] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009004004.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:09] i have an extra disk partition for tinkering with OSs, what would be an easy way to get slack current installed in it? [20:09] not without upgrading to the slackware development branch [20:09] what about from sources [20:09] sure you can but you have to do it yourself. i'm sure there are build scripts from the kde4 testing days around but that would be a major mess [20:09] I'd recommend upgrading to -current before tryin gto compile kde yourself [20:09] probably would be totally broken too [20:09] Pig_Pen: same way you'd install 12.2 [20:10] with a DVD? [20:10] aim the installer at the partition you want [20:10] Fire carefully. [20:10] or cd or usb boot or whatever [20:10] like a dangerous weapon [20:10] i wish slackware had a minimal netinst for current like debian's netinst [20:11] Pig_Pen, haven't read the past CVE's lately on apt then have you :) [20:11] What's wrong with using http/ftp/smb + tagfiles? [20:11] so there isnt a way to make a simple auto mount [20:11] Pig_Pen: why though? -current is not for the masses [20:11] i have never done that method ccfreak2k [20:11] im a minimalist, kde is too bloat for me [20:11] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackboot/mini/12.2/ [20:11] Pig_Pen: and you can do whatever you want with it anyway so that method is there [20:11] 40MB [20:12] I use install via HTTP and a -current disc burned to CD-RW. [20:12] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:12] ccfreak2k: there is nothing wrong with that which is why i mentioned usb booting [20:12] what about a script to do dhcpcd -d eth1& automatically when i plug my rndis in [20:12] Pig_Pen: ^^ [20:12] wardenxvx (n=wardenis@pool-71-188-24-163.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:13] ah, use that mini install to mount a local dir with current in it, i just have to make my own personal mirror on my harddrive somewhere [20:13] or http/ftp [20:14] wifi too? [20:14] no slackware installer supports wifi [20:15] then i better make a local mirror then [20:16] whats a good tool to mirror one of slackware's mirrors? rsync do it? [20:16] Pig_Pen, I highly recommend alien bob's rsync scrippages,been using them for years now, their great for that. [20:16] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:17] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/ called "mirror-slackware-current.sh" [20:18] Action: Old_Fogie just loves new file-roller ... (pet pet)...good archive manager (pet pet) [20:18] urxvt + tar? [20:18] cool, if i cant finish it in one gulp will it continue where it left off if i restart it at another time? [20:19] eh Ingres as a open source java platform now not much information from what I see about it on the page :) [20:19] thrice`, bsdtar! [20:19] :D [20:19] bsdtar is nice :) [20:19] I thought Ingres was a db., [20:19] ccfreak2k: it is it's also a company [20:19] thrice`, I was being a wise ass, but yeah bsdtar is my preferred. but file-roller has much needed fixes in 2.66.1 now...mmm very nice. [20:20] ccfreak2k: belive red hat owns ingres could be wrong though [20:21] I nevere really paid much attention to ingres [20:23] Pig_Pen: alienBOB's mirror-slackware-current builds an iso after the rsync if I remember right. His rsync_current script does just the rsync. [20:23] chopp, no it' can accept other command line arguments [20:23] --help [20:24] Old_Fogie: allright, just been along time since I looked at it. I do use the rsync script though.:) [20:24] if that mini CD will let me install from a local drive that will work fine [20:24] yeah it's splendiid them scripts, luv em [20:25] for sure. [20:25] that rsync-current.sh is doing its thing [20:25] grazymax (n=grazymax@host183-207-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:26] wardenxvx (n=wardenis@pool-71-188-24-163.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:26] now if i kill that script before it finishes and restart it later it will just pick up where it left off? not having to start over from scratch? [20:27] grazymax (n=grazymax@host64-207-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:27] Pig_Pen, that's rsync's job to do :) but worse come to worse pass the force option (it's in the script) [20:28] Pig_Pen, you should still gpg verify and hash verify your downloads, that should catch anything that didn't d/l right (and any bad packages, /me takes off tin foile hat) [20:28] ok. thansk [20:28] but rsync'll catch it [20:28] as far as resume [20:29] warden (n=wardenis@pool-98-110-2-205.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:29] sticks (n=drum@ppp118-208-115-228.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:29] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.207.82) joined ##slackware. [20:29] heh, policykit-dbus need for gconf-editor ... lol [20:30] never ceases to amaze me the gnome dev's and their infite wisdom. yes, let's have dbus talk to our registry. [20:30] gnome is awful [20:31] actually, this new version is nice, but they're going nuts with dbus/policykit all thruought [20:31] gnome & ubuntu do Linux a great disservise [20:31] Kerio2004 (n=Port@94.96.163.51) left irc: [20:32] gnome could learn from xfce in the weight department [20:32] actually, if it weren't for the policykit/consolekit (which wasnt needed in 2.22) they're the same ram (for me at least) [20:32] now in 2.26 yea, the ram use is *way* higher [20:33] and devicekit now too? [20:33] run time I'm eating 80 meg of ram more in 2.26 then 2.22 [20:33] i think debian lenny was the latest gnome i tried, it lasted about a week before i got annoyed with debianisms and wiped it out of my extra partition [20:34] thrice`, no it's not needed as of yet [20:35] GypsyTea (n=m@98.196.95.141) joined ##slackware. [20:36] Pig_Pen, so the 80 extra ..well that's alot , I used to only eat 120 meg entering gnome 2.22 ; gnome 2.26 now I'm 200. xfce, once you add the plugins (to be like gnome) actually eats more ram, but stock xfce I had maybe 95/100 meg ram when coming into xfce. [20:36] my openbox uses 10 mb, btw [20:36] nice :) [20:37] love_music (n=box@ip217-77-54-55-nat.sampo.ru) left irc: Client Quit [20:37] I've been using icewm for last 2 weeks almost most of time, with thunar, it's nice being at 60 mb ram in use entering an X session, heh [20:39] but this whole dbus throughout the whole DE is just crazy, I dont even understand why some of these apps even hook to dbus/policykit [20:39] i mostly use a custom built and trimmed fvwm with rox to draw a desktop icons & wallpaper [20:39] I think it'll be in slack soon enough. I thought KDM will use it for kde 4.3 [20:40] GypsyTea (n=m@98.196.95.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:40] I don't know, I haven't built the kde 4 series completely, just started it but taking a break to bump up to latest gnome. [20:40] GypsyTea (n=m@98.196.95.141) joined ##slackware. [20:40] fvwm is using an 0.2 and rox is using 1.1 [20:40] I'm glad I dont need pulseaudio on this rev, that's nice [20:41] I only run fvwm by accident :) [20:42] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:42] GypsyTea (n=m@98.196.95.141) left irc: Client Quit [20:43] trentgbs_ (n=trentgbs@c-68-49-217-62.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:48] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:48] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [20:49] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [20:50] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:51] koojoo (n=zerafuze@74.13.33.202) joined ##slackware. [20:52] i wonder if i copy that script and point it at another mirror, this one is doing tds, i can point a copy at osuosl, would it speed it up a little? or would there be problems & conflict? [20:52] two scripts to run to same DIR ? no [20:53] not a good idea? [20:53] i better not then [20:53] why not just point the script to a different mirror then? [20:53] stop your script, point it elsewhere [20:54] it is doing ok i guess, its up to KDE-4.2.2 now [20:54] yea kde is bloated [20:54] Action: Old_Fogie hides :) [20:54] lol [20:54] just teasing now, don't get in a huffy kde lubbers :) [20:55] mine doesn't do kde. :P [20:55] chopp, ++ [20:55] i agree Old_Fogie, i could live without kde, but i have a wife & mother and two boys that need a pointy clicky desktop and both the wife & mom like kdegames package [20:55] Pig_Pen, oh I was breaking stones. believe me, if kde get's useable, I'm gonna try and convert the fam/friends over to it too [20:56] I'm actually "rooting" for it to get more useable, so I can stop building *all* of gnome. [20:56] kde-3.x got my family weened off windows, for that i am greatful to all the Linux devs that make it possible [20:57] gnome games has a cool blackjack game [20:57] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: "going going gone" [20:57] gnome got my family off of windows here [20:57] heh, funny [20:57] problem is, I'm got them hooked on it. [20:57] too bad it is tied to gnome, i wish it only required gtk [20:58] tried to get them to go kde3, was a no go. hoping all the glitz and glam in 4 will get them some time soon [20:58] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:58] i'm sure there exist plenty of gtk based blackjack games [20:58] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:59] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [20:59] cricket[b] (n=cricket@ip98-164-81-106.no.no.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] I wouldn't mind building half of gnome, which is pretty much the apps, the rhythmbox, evince, eog, file-roller, all them are easy to build, in less than two hours, no pam/policykit/consol kit crap. it's really just the whole DE that's getting tedious. it's not "hard" it's just monotonous. and moving this app to buid here now, where it used to be built after this. that's the pain of it. [20:59] KillerV (i=1000@bhe201062174005.res-com.wayinternet.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:00] those apps I mention, they're great for XFCE desktop use. [21:01] pretty much, if you get them built, well you got any gnome dep built for some random app you may want down the pike. it's just the DE stuff,is boring excercise. [21:01] thats what i would like to see happen to gnome, the desktop & apps broken in such a way that the apps dont require gnome, then the gnome devs can focus on their desktop enviroment without worrieing about the apps [21:02] pepperjack (n=happy@h254.254.90.75.static.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:02] it could make both better [21:02] Pig_Pen, that's the ?funny? thing, they actually are, just the gnome dev's like to confuse their users and not give a coherent build list. even the garnome, jhbuild is a complete joke. [21:03] if they at least gave a list, and combined a few things, it wouldnt be so bad. [21:03] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.149.43.121) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:04] kde-3.x is easy to build, xfce is easy too i seen the build order list at an arch linux forum and a few other places when i googled, [21:05] gm152_ (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] i used the one at the arch forum to build xfce before on 12.0 [21:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [21:05] why? [21:05] yeah kde 3 is nice to build, no joke. 4 is kind of ugly but manageable (tho I havent done it all) but I rsynced it when it was in /opt so so far so good [21:05] a) xfce shipped with slackware 12.0; b) the slackbuild is VERY obvious on the proper build order [21:06] i wanted to see what i can do with it, i like to leave some things out (the slackware package is all bundled [21:06] Hm. Mailing list management software for slack? I can't seem to find gnu mailman in Slack or in SBo [21:06] Pig_Pen, yeah I broke my xfce up here too, as I needed patches to get 12.2's xfce to build. it's like 30 packages. [21:07] gm152_ (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:07] gm152_ (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] mogunus: mailman is pretty straightforward. It's something that I maintain on cardinal, and /usr/local is fine. [21:09] most as small packages and build in a few minutes [21:09] It and awstats are probably the only two things I don't make packages of. [21:09] Fair enough. Reading the "install" docs and it doesn't look so bad. [21:10] qt-r948357? [21:11] Anyone have any words "to the wise" or "warnings" on backporting auto tools from --current to 12.1? bad idea? any thoughts? [21:11] yes, UPGRADE YOUR SYSTEM [21:12] heh, not an option, it's not even a year old distro [21:12] Pig_Pen: most likely a svn snapshot [21:13] omzine (n=othermin@89.sub-70-192-188.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:13] slaxxer (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:13] meh, I see no reason not to run the latest [21:14] slaxxer (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] thrice`, well too many boxes, too much software to run current on all. but that said, 12.1 is an awesome base, and it loads and plays nicer for my antiques then 12.2 or --current does. but a few apps, need patches now for autoconf, so toying iwth the idea of just upgradeing them. [21:15] caio (n=caio@190.6.100.107) joined ##slackware. [21:16] _juan (n=juan@190.75.80.13) joined ##slackware. [21:17] i wonder what Pat V's computer room looks like, i bet he has some cool PCs to do his work on [21:17] <_juan> hi, quanta plus is always crashing, does anyone have this same problem and/or know how to fix it? [21:17] Pig_Pen, I'd venture to guess, he's got about 8 computers in there, and when he flix the swtich the whole neighborhood loses power [21:17] dont tell me has has an ancient 486 and one 17 inch crt [21:18] lol [21:18] _juan, I may be wrong, but I think off top of my head, that hooks to java, you have java installed? [21:18] Pig_Pen, I bet you he has antiques yup [21:18] <_juan> yes i do Old_Fogie [21:18] in addition to new toys [21:18] _juan: I've had Quanta open for about an hour working in it. It hasn't crashed once. I haven't had any problems with it. [21:19] _juan, launch it from a terminal and see if messages are given. also look in ~/.Xsession-errrors file [21:19] maybe something good in them [21:19] quanta is that kde html editor thing, right? [21:19] <_juan> it crashes as soon as i try to open it [21:19] Old_Fogie: haha, you beat me. I was just gonna say that. [21:19] firebird619, :) [21:19] Pig_Pen: yes. [21:19] _juan, launch it from term then [21:19] Jean (n=jean@93-36-225-74.ip62.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:20] dyforc (n=Administ@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [21:20] Old_Fogie: oh shoot, i'm currently setting up 12.2 [still installing packages as I type this] on an old ibm thinkpad 600E (pentium II 400 mhz)...should I have gone with 12.1? [21:20] its up to slackware/x/ [21:20] <_juan> QObject::connect: Cannot connect (null)::initiateDrag(QWidget *) to QuantaApp::slotTabDragged(QWidget*) [21:20] <_juan> KCrash: Application 'quanta' crashing... [21:20] slackmagic, imho 12.2 shouldn't be installed on anything under 1 ghz less you have 1-2 hours of time [21:21] slackmagic, and I have alot of software, and installing them too, take forever [21:21] just finished x and is doing xap [21:21] slackmagic, but you can run 11.0 really nice on there with a 2.4 kernel, very fast, no hal tho.. [21:21] Old_Fogie: yeah it's just my systems are all still 12.1, and I thought I'd play with the 12.2 a little and was looking at that antique I just recently received for free :) - I could have sworn it was looking back at me ! [21:21] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:22] Jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) left irc: "Leaving" [21:22] Mtty (n=Mtty@166.189.175.84) joined ##slackware. [21:22] slackmagic, when I put 12.2 in, it says it's updating fonts, but if you switch to a VT, it's hammering away at some cups crap for like an hour. [21:22] i need to find an old style laptop so i can set my wifi hunter back up [21:22] _juan: After some googleing, looks like some have had luck running quanta --resetlayout to fix that error. [21:22] if i had a ancient PC dropped in my lap if it was old enough i would do a slack-11 install in it [21:23] hello [21:23] Pig_Pen, yeah 11 is the way to go for sub 500 mhz imo too. [21:23] dyforc: hello [21:24] 11 was an awesome release. I still think it had the best X in it too for old hardware. [21:24] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.47) joined ##slackware. [21:24] me too, slack-11 was a well built release [21:24] <_juan> thank you firebird619 [21:25] slackmagic, but if you need a 16 bit pcmcia slot to work, 11 doesnt work with 2.6 kernel, then you have to use hotplug and 2.4 kernel. [21:25] _juan: yw [21:25] slackmagic, 10.2 with a 2.6 kernel works with 16 bit pcmcia cards tho if you need that, and want to toy with adding hal to it, as 10.2 didnt have hal. [21:26] _juan (n=juan@190.75.80.13) left irc: "Leaving" [21:26] _juan (n=juan@190.75.80.13) joined ##slackware. [21:27] Old_Fogie: i remember 11.0, was nice indeed. I'm just going to play around with this 12.2 on this old system and see how it goes. I was thinking of giving it to one of my good friends since he has no computer at all at the moment. I've got plenty of systems in my room to keep it warm during winter season [21:29] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] where do people get there prices at for computer equipment. [21:35] lotec: newegg.com for a reality check [21:35] compaq preario 1700 for 120 bucks. but it does not work. [21:36] pricewatch is pretty good lotec [21:36] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [21:36] i am on craigslist look for an old laptop [21:36] ages ago i checked pricewatch.com [21:36] still works :) [21:36] the compaq i used to use is junk. sound board is broke. etc [21:36] i haven't ordered from someone on pricewatch since the late 90's [21:38] pi31415: i must inform you that your name is a poor aproximation of itself :P [21:38] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:39] Mtty (n=Mtty@166.189.175.84) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:39] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [21:44] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:44] greetings and salutations [21:44] hi andarius [21:44] salutations Old_Fogie [21:44] i killed it, i hammered that server and my isp enough for today, i can finish it tomarrow [21:45] Greetings andarius. How are you? [21:46] Pig_Pen, fortunately, once you get the tree down, updates are painless, it's nice to have that tree around [21:46] salutations firebird619. i am well. you ? [21:46] andarius: I am doing great. Thank you. [21:46] http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/sys/1134590801.html thinkpad [21:46] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.53.112) joined ##slackware. [21:47] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-169-170.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] Heya,folks...How's everyone? [21:48] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:48] MLanden: Hey. How are you? [21:48] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:48] Good for the evening,firebird619...and how 'bout you? [21:48] dyforc (n=Administ@222.172.221.99) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:48] MLanden: Doing Great. Thank yoou. [21:49] s/yoou/you [21:49] yeah, i think i will preserve it and keep it updated [21:49] Great,firebird619 [21:49] i should have it finished tomarrow and installed by the weekend [21:49] Pig_Pen, I had scratched my install cd's so many times, that mirror-current script is great, saved my butt a few times more then I'd like to admit [21:49] MLanden: It got to 77 F here today. The weather was so nice today. [21:51] 'Bout 72F here in Virginia but rainy [21:51] we're about half that here in Buffalo, but they say we'll be near 70's by the weekend, I cant wait. [21:51] MLanden: There's a chance for rain sometime in the next few days here too, suppose to get to at least 80 tomorrow. [21:52] looks like the tail end of next week, may have to cut the grass for the first time. [21:52] Old_Fogie: mayb e but suppose to snow well it kinda did actually here earilier [21:52] kitche, oh you're kidding me :) well keep it down there, I dont want any more, I'm *done* with winter this year. [21:53] it was a mix actually [21:54] kitche, yeah night time here is cold, day time warmer. I've got a chest cold cuz of it, almost two weeks, just cant shake it. [21:54] i mowed the lawn twice already this year Old_Fogie [21:54] yeah,firebird ... come the weekend,it'll be in the high 80s here...:D [21:54] Pig_Pen: I don't mow the lawn until about June or so :) [21:54] Pig_Pen, wow, yeah I cant wait [21:54] kitche, hahah [21:54] if i waited until june the grass would be up to my knees [21:55] kitche, the lawn guy sprayed our lawn, so it's already starting now. [21:55] i guess the growing season startes later where you live kitche [21:55] MLanden: Forcast here is 81 tomorrow, then 65, 49, 50, and 54 for the next few days. :) [21:55] that stuff he uses, it's like liquid crack for grass, it goes nuts on it [21:55] no just that the grass does not come back until June [21:55] with the food prices the way they've been and a good summer ahead...should be a good garden this year..:D [21:55] I don't have a specialist like Old_Fogie does Pig_Pen :) [21:56] hahah [21:56] actually, my guy, he's always 'low bid sid' too, I'm happy with em. [21:56] me either, my lawn is about two thirds weeds [21:56] _ohm (n=mark@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:56] i dont care if it is weeds or grass, if it grows in my yard it better like being kept short [21:57] Action: MLanden staples mouth shut as not to yell out LAWN CIGARS..damn,too late..:D [21:57] Pig_Pen, black top it then, and paint it green :) [21:57] that would be nice, no more mowing [21:57] or get some of that road gravel and paint it green [21:57] well see I live near a factory so the grass tends to die during the winter months and not come back until junw mainly [21:57] actually, I gotta get some black top work done this year, it's coming time. [21:58] it's green but a lot of brown and a lot of sand or gravel in my front yard [21:59] kitche, what sand/gravel from trucks? [21:59] there is a cement factory in town, the lime waste product (flyash) makes vegetation really green sometimes, i could get a load of it and use a spreader to do a light dusting of it [21:59] Old_Fogie: probably or from traffic [21:59] yeah, that'll kill a lawn for sure [21:59] only thing you could do is add thin layers of top-soil every year, that's a lot of work. [22:00] Pig_Pen, makes you wonder what that does to your lungs huh? :( [22:00] Action: kitche is waiting to ram a factory work car when they pull out of the lot [22:00] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [22:00] that'd drive me nuts a busy street outside the house, [22:00] yeah, i am glad i dont live too close to it, the people that do live close have problems with cement dust, they use vinegar to clean everything with [22:01] jumperboy (n=jorey@gl206.websiteproject.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:01] could imagine [22:01] Old_Fogie: not really a busy street really [22:01] caalope (n=caalope@c-76-100-46-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] only tiem busy is at lunch time and beginning of the day and end of day :) [22:01] ah I see [22:01] anyone ever had business cards done up? [22:01] Action: kitche lives on a dead end street [22:02] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.207.82) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [22:02] lotec: of course [22:02] caalope (n=caalope@c-76-100-46-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [22:02] what do the prices run. i am looking at a few local companies. [22:02] just a basic card with number address and name [22:02] no clue. I went to purchasing and told them I needed some. they were on my desk 2 days later :) [22:02] depends on the card [22:03] yeah how many colors, how many cards, [22:03] many variables [22:03] material it's made on,style of the card,quantity [22:03] but 30-50 bux for about 500 is usual [22:03] can range from .50 cents all the way to 10 bucks [22:04] yea that is all i need like 500. maybe 3 to 4 colors in the card [22:04] _juan (n=juan@190.75.80.13) left irc: "Leaving" [22:04] lotec, the thing is, once they get your log on the card, it's cheaper down the road. [22:04] logo [22:05] so first set is usually more, next time you reorder is cheaper [22:06] pirving (n=john@cpe-72-224-172-94.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:07] ok, so Time Warner took away it's news servers and now I can't find free ones....what should I do install a newsserver on my spare computer???? How do I mirror groups? [22:07] Anyone know of a free un censored news server [22:07] I called Time Warner and bitched, but they are leaving them offline [22:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:08] I didnt even know they had news servers [22:08] they had a ton of space used up to keep 3 days worth of groups [22:08] Ofcourse, for years news.maine.rr.com [22:08] like 10tb iirc [22:08] *100tb [22:08] or news.ny.rr.com whatever [22:09] nullboy: what is this zx thingie in a/? [22:09] pirving, yeah I have them as my cable company, huh never knew that [22:09] nullboy: sorry, xz [22:09] am I just screwed and have no news???? [22:09] I need alt.linux [22:09] alt.dev [22:09] whatever [22:09] comp.os.linux [22:09] google crappy newsgroups [22:09] I need to download binaries through tin [22:09] tin -r [22:10] google + usenet = ball suckage [22:11] the man is getting me down [22:11] pirving: umm how hard is it to do your own search sicne you knwo it's easier to do that then complain here [22:11] *the Man [22:11] nullboy: aah.. never mind [22:11] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-69.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:12] they all charge a F*CKING FEE [22:12] the freenet ones are all censored [22:12] pirving: hmm odd how I found a free one with a simple search [22:15] pirving: or you know go to freeusenetnews.com and you know do a search [22:15] ok cool thanks [22:21] they are all censored because they dont want pedophiles using their services [22:24] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090115, [22:26] guys seen this crap http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=14934 [22:26] i hate time warner [22:28] I heard of bandwidth caps....FUCK THEM [22:28] I would use satelite if they didn't have caps and slow down after reaching it [22:29] I say to hell with any censorship or caps or laws or etc [22:29] just money hungery companies. caping lines that they dont pay extra for. [22:30] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left ##slackware. [22:30] die cable, DSL and satellite companies. I'll just use fiber. what is verizon FOS? [22:30] or Fios? [22:30] fios [22:31] yep Fios that is what i have. [22:31] stillborn (n=blow_my_@YKMMCLXXXIII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [22:31] i have not heard of them capping but i would not be surprised with everyone else doing it [22:32] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] how fast is fios? With Time warner I have 15 Mbit [22:32] i am on a 20/15 connection [22:32] I only get 3 Mbit behind my router...it's a linksys [22:32] I think my router is my bottleneck [22:32] anyone agree? [22:33] because I ran bandwidth tests and got 15 mbit and then when I installed my router I got 3 mbit [22:33] how can we agree or disagree without a lot more data ? [22:33] coincedence [22:33] I bet if I unplugged my router and ran it straight to my nic from the cable modem I'd get 15 mbit [22:33] warden (n=wardenis@pool-98-110-2-205.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:34] in fact, I'm going to test it [22:34] the problem with Verizon is they have fiber straight to a house. Why would you not open it up? charge 5 more bucks for 40/40 connection it would blow everone else out of the water. [22:34] but then i guess that is why i dont run Verizon :D [22:35] what is the best way to disconnect my network cable without rebooting???? ifdown? [22:35] ifup? [22:35] _ohm (n=mark@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:36] I'm going to run diagnistics [22:36] Unplug it. [22:36] *diagnostics [22:36] yes, but I need a new IP [22:36] So set one. [22:37] I have a 192.168.1.100 [22:37] and I need a 74.* ip [22:37] heh [22:37] ifconfig eth! down [22:37] ifocnfig eth! up [22:37] dhcpcd eth! [22:37] thanks brb [22:37] ! being what ever one you are one eth1 or eth0 [22:40] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [22:42] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:42] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:43] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:44] stillbor1 (n=blow_my_@YKMDCCCLXIX.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:45] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [22:45] Topic changed on ##slackware by nachox!n=nacho@190.51.53.112: Guidelines: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k | http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://slackware.com/getslack | This Channel has Public Logs | http://freenodeslack.blogspot.com/ | http://slackwaregallery.org | Slackware 12.2 Released December 9, 2008 | Use a torrent: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php | Security: firefox [22:45] warden (n=wardenis@pool-98-110-2-205.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] bleh. So where I live, there's a crappy little netgear wap/router that loses its internet connectivity, if I scp large files between 2 of the hosts on the wireless [22:48] oddly, the internal network keeps working fine, but the connection to the outside world never comes back [22:49] also, if I limit bandwidth to 2 Mbit (with "scp -l 2000"), it doesn't have any problems... 1995 called, they want their 2Mbit wireless network back... [22:49] Urchlay, overheating? [22:50] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:50] Urchlay:Who is the the provider? [22:54] pirvings (n=john@cpe-72-224-172-94.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:55] woudner why there are no wisp providers in my town for [22:55] OK, the results are in: Direct connection to the cable modem. 15 Mbit. Conncection through crappy linksys router 3 Mbit. This is your brain on drugs, any questions? [22:56] get a new router? [22:57] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [22:57] pirving (n=john@cpe-72-224-172-94.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:58] yosii (n=yosi@71.143.168.182) joined ##slackware. [23:01] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:01] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:02] i have the idea that pirving is doing double NAT... [23:02] .. most clueless 'tards tend to do that [23:03] MLanden: comcast [23:04] edman007: if it were overheating, I'd expect the internal wireless network to die, too... and I'd expect to have to leave it off for a while before it'll recover (as it is, unplug, plug right back in, it's good to go) [23:04] OK...not so reliable in your area,urchlay? [23:04] eh, what difference does ISP reliability make here? it dies when I copy files between 2 boxes on my LAN, nothing to do with the ISP... [23:05] (I mean, yes, comcast sucks and all, but I can't see how this can be their fault) [23:05] Urchlay, i don't know..when it overheats often what happens is just something gets stuck in a bad state and some part goes down, not everything [23:05] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-69.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [23:05] edman007: hm. Wonder how hot is too hot then. Next time it happens I'll feel it [23:06] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:07] I mean I have a workaround (limit bandwidth)... but WTF, we paid for a 54MBit/sec router and it craps out if I go faster than 2Mbit/sec (aka 4% of its advertised max speed?) [23:07] Urchlay, anyways, i have had some routers and some modems basically do that, the fix is just to get a new one [23:07] yeah [23:08] I may see if there's a firmware update [23:08] but last time anybody I know updated firmware on one of these shitty little things, it bricked itself for no apparent reason [23:09] why are people willing to tolerate garbage? [23:09] Urchlay, anyways, i got an old old linksys router (wired only, forget the model number), and it basically did something like that after about a year, and it just happened more and more for a year, until it entered its current state, its a switch [23:10] mighty expensive switch too [23:11] and i found 2 other people who had the same router and the same problem, lol [23:11] I suppose the only fix for this would be to run hostapd [23:12] Stella_C (n=sebastia@ip70-162-197-246.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:12] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:12] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:13] sorry on my reply,urchlay [23:13] I have Slack 12.2 using ipw3945 for wireless. I have an instruction saying that I need to add a line to /etc/modprobe.d/ipw3945, but I can't find this file. Where should I look for this file? [23:14] ipw is dead, you should be on iwl these days [23:14] eh, it means you need to create that file [23:14] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-98.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] great, thanks :-) [23:14] but listen to thrice`, he generally knows what he's talking about [23:15] ok [23:15] only generally though. [23:15] Stella_C: do you have a reason to not use the iwl3945 included in slack ? [23:15] ;-) [23:15] usually not, anyway :) [23:15] We all have our moments. :D [23:15] thrice` knows what he's talking about? [23:15] when the hell did that happen? [23:16] :\ [23:16] ;) [23:16] thrice`, it was my mistake, checked dmesg and iwl3945 is loaded. Confirm I need to create /etc/modprobe.d/iwl3945 then? [23:17] depends, to work ? no :) [23:17] I need iwl3945 to be notified of "options ipw3945 rtap_iface=1"... [23:17] the instructions say it has to go in that file [23:18] replace ipw3945 by iwl3945 [23:19] then yes, that file is correct [23:19] thank you thrice` [23:21] thrice`, interesting, I ran a test build gnome 2.26.1 right, no policykit/consolkiet/devkit .. so now gnomepower manager. it works, only thing lost is "shutodown" panel icon. hmm, /me see's a sudo /sbin/halt desktop file there for that. [23:21] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "if your nipple warmer has a depleted reactor you can borrow my spare reactor..." [23:21] filipe_xD (n=filipe@laptop-do-filipe.inrede.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:21] Stella_C (n=sebastia@ip70-162-197-246.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:21] thrice`, so it appears, *kits are really just to get a shutdown button in panel applets (for a desktop user - no hibernate, suspend needed) [23:22] thrice`, that's really just sad. [23:22] :D [23:22] very :) [23:22] *kit*nightmare* is for a shutdown button! WTF! [23:22] they are insane, really, I should file a bug, telling them they are noobs [23:22] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] all that to == sudo /sbin/halt ? [23:23] oh, and sudo /sbin/reboot [23:23] take care,folks [23:24] really, what a waste of coding time, someone should fire someone [23:24] caio (n=caio@190.6.100.107) left irc: "leaving" [23:24] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-169-170.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. 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[23:42] Jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) left irc: "Leaving" [23:42] when I run rexima it says 'couldn't open mixer device,' and when I run aumix it just exits [23:43] my Audigy ZS modules are loaded in the default kernel lsmod is showing [23:44] I had to re-partition& reinstall when parted could not handle ext3 or maybe just extended volumes of it... now I forgot how to get the Audigy working [23:44] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:45] warden (n=wardenis@pool-98-110-2-205.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:47] In case anyone wants to build 2.26.1 use gnome-power-manager-2.22.1, gdm gdm-2.20.9 gconf-editor-2.22.0 (all older versions) get's me a no *kit/pam dekstop system :) that's the workaround. [23:49] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-75-35-180-38.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] good to know Old_Fogie. So, you build gnome yourself? [23:50] yup. [23:50] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] I keep it really simple tho [23:51] d4vidc: does this also happen as root? [23:52] that is about all I use [23:52] firebird619, I've stopped doing the games (as kde has them), no mono stuff or mono apps it's just redundant, no *kit. tho I did do the kit's on 2.24 series tho, but I never rolled that out, I didnt like 2.24. [23:52] O_o [23:52] ^^---it's pidgin! [23:54] just call me david, anyway [23:54] Old_Fogie: Ok, thank you for the info. It'll probably be a while before I'd try and tackle something like building gnome myself. :) [23:54] well if you need a build order let me knwo I have one for slack 12.1 , 2.22.X , 2.24 2.26 [23:54] :) [23:55] another topic: has anyone got awesome wm working on Slackware or Slamd64? [23:55] d4vidc, doesn't SBo have that? [23:56] IIRC it does [23:56] never mind that then [23:56] :P [23:56] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/desktop/awesome/ [23:58] (I mainly use Slamd64 now, but I will retry awesome wm on my Slackware... unless you want to discuss this further) [23:59] nah, I dont need to discuss it further :) [23:59] unless you want to discuss it further [23:59] in which case we can all discuss it further [00:00] --- Thu Apr 23 2009