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[00:10] magna carta [00:10] haha [00:10] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:10] and the mastah chargah [00:11] MLanden: Doin' well. XSDing and smoking a pipe [00:11] props to whoever names the flick... [00:11] don't mess with the zohan [00:11] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [00:11] nein, earlier than that [00:11] Dominian, what's the phrase? [00:12] well.. I already know what the word means, but want to make sure it translates properly for others who see it [00:12] MLanden: clausus [00:12] or claudo [00:12] closed [00:12] I think one means 'closed' and the other means 'blockade' [00:12] clauses=closed [00:12] claudo [00:13] I'm googling these so.. justm aking sure it translates proper [00:13] claudo is the verb, no? [00:14] to close, confine, encumber? [00:14] no idea [00:14] trying to find something in italian or greek or roman or what not that means 'blockade' [00:15] Dominian, usually wiktionary's good if you know the root [00:15] hrm [00:15] Nick change: SiegeX- -> SiegeX [00:15] SiegeX (219@c-76-102-150-28.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [00:15] SiegeX (219@unaffiliated/siegex) joined ##slackware. [00:15] ±À¿º»µ¹Ã¼Ì [00:15] That's blockade... in Greek [00:15] apparently [00:15] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] mamma mia. i'll put $10 on you wanting a neat name for a firewall [00:16] mancha: nope [00:16] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:17] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:18] so clausus could be proper? [00:19] Does anyone know if [+-]? would be valid in an XSD to specify an option + or - ? I know that it'll work in most regexp, but I don't know if it does for XSD. The guides I am finding just mention + and *, as well as specifying a fixed number. [00:25] tkuhp (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:26] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@12.189.110.2) joined ##slackware. [00:27] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:27] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:27] jewbacca (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:28] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [00:28] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-160-2.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:28] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:29] Dominian, are you referring to a blockade,such as a military blockade or seige? [00:30] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Quit: Night [00:31] MLanden: basically [00:31] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [00:31] tkuhp (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:31] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:32] tkuhp (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:32] Dominian, On italian,check out the italian entry for siege http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assedio [00:33] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-66-159.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:33] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:34] cfdisk (~cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) joined ##slackware. [00:34] ridout (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:35] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:37] tkuhp (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:37] tkuhp (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:37] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: 2 drives toast, data toast. backup would have prevented loss kids, pay attention now! [00:38] darchstar (~ameer@c-24-13-225-223.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:38] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:38] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:39] hey guys, i'm having an issue compiling. it keep getting this error related to not having a gnu/stubs-32.h. someone please help: http://pastebin.com/if6NLeyG [00:40] i do have the multilibs gcc [00:40] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:40] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:40] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:42] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:42] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Everything will be ok in the end. If it is not ok, it is not the end, yet. [00:43] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [00:43] tkuhp (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:45] are you trying to build it 32bit? [00:45] how did you ./configure it? [00:47] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-199-72.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [00:48] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:49] j0z (~SPH@201.47.30.242) joined ##slackware. [00:49] j0z (~SPH@201.47.30.242) left irc: Changing host [00:49] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [00:52] tkuhp (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:53] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Client Quit [00:55] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [00:56] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:57] Dominian, i'm trying to build for an arm target on a x86_64 host [00:57] ah [00:57] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:57] I don't think it will do cross-compile like that [00:57] i have the arm toolchain [00:58] hrm [00:58] never did a cross-compile for arm [00:58] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-199-72.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:59] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [00:59] How about leg? [00:59] Dominian, i fixed my issue. thanks for your help. what i did was "export CROSS_COMPILE=arm-eabi-" [01:00] ahhhh that'd do it [01:00] yup, an easy fix. shall remember this for later :) . Thanks again [01:00] darchstar, compiling for armedslack? [01:01] MLanden, no, i'm compiling for android [01:01] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [01:01] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [01:01] darchstar, cool...good luck on the results..:D [01:01] ok, thanks :) [01:03] darchstar: hmm interesting. :) good luck :) [01:03] I read the emacs doinst.sh [01:04] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.14.179) joined ##slackware. [01:04] About ctags and using both emacs and vi [01:04] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.14.179) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:04] Action: NaCl does [01:04] j0z (~SPH@201.47.30.242) joined ##slackware. [01:04] j0z (~SPH@201.47.30.242) left irc: Changing host [01:04] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [01:07] jewbacca (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[01:13] jewbacca (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:13] if it is dimm you can do: upgradepkg --reinstall --dimm ram.tgz [01:14] hey i'll cya... [01:14] she_dyed (jazz@adsl-233-244-21.mia.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [01:14] they used to be so much more creative... [01:16] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.61.217) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:17] RaNdY (randy@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) left irc: K-Lined [01:17] x3r0x (x3r0x@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) left irc: K-Lined [01:17] Guest50885 (buffer@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) left irc: K-Lined [01:17] darchstar (~ameer@c-24-13-225-223.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:17] jewbacca (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:17] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:18] lol good one mancha :) [01:19] heya Rat409 [01:20] Rat, i know, kinda lame, but i'm tired :/ [01:23] jewbacca (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [01:23] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.142) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:24] jewbacca (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[01:29] hey fire|bird ,sorry was downstairs for a few [01:30] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:30] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:30] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:32] Arno[Slack] (~arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:34] seems that today a mcaffee antivir update identified a windows file as a virus, kept deleting it and the affected machines would go into an endless reboot [01:34] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:35] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:35] affected parties include store cash registers, hospital records gateways, etc [01:35] i always knew windows was a virus!! [01:36] yes, i heard a blurb on radio news in car this afternoon [01:36] iirc said win7 sp1 boxen [01:36] darchstar (~ameer@c-24-13-225-223.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:38] xp sp3 i think [01:39] oh i probly got it mixed up then [01:39] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [01:40] win7 is just as fun (if not more) to ridicule though, so we can make believe it was that... [01:41] haha [01:41] lol. true i wonder if the mac devel who left the prototype iphone behind in a bar still works for apple. [01:41] Rat409, probably not. :P [01:41] cfdisk (~cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) left irc: Quit: Beijinhoo suid0 e PiterPunk =) durma com os penguizinhos. [01:41] was that an intentional plant or not? [01:41] indeed :) [01:41] mancha: good question actually [01:41] probably [01:42] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-70-80.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:42] mancha, From what I've read, Apple is very strict about stuff *not* getting leaked out, but who knows, it makes you wonder. [01:43] wonder if they found who did it. [01:43] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [01:43] wario, The articles I've read, they know exactly who did it. [01:43] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:43] what do you guys recommend as kde for slackware 13? [01:44] darchstar (~ameer@c-24-13-225-223.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:44] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left irc: Client Quit [01:44] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:45] fire|bird, speakin' 'bout Apple,did you hear about that guy losin' a finger from someone nabbin' his ipad? [01:45] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [01:45] MLanden, yeah, I had read about that. [01:45] darchstar (~ameer@c-24-13-225-223.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:46] What do you guys recommend for slackware kde or xfce? [01:46] datace, have you tried both? [01:46] yah [01:46] that's a personal preference, no real recommendation for either or. [01:46] try each, decide which you like better, and then use it. :) [01:47] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:47] thnkas [01:48] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left ##slackware. [01:48] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:50] darchstar (~ameer@c-24-13-225-223.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:51] darchstar (~ameer@c-24-13-225-223.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:19] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430454.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:21] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.79.151) joined ##slackware. [02:24] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.14.179) joined ##slackware. [02:24] hi all [02:25] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.50.67) joined ##slackware. [02:25] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.79.151) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:26] i've installed multilib for 32bit compatibility. now i want to come back to pure 64bit. all compatibility pks have been uninstalle but when i compile a 64bit program now it cannot find my arch automatically [02:26] i think the problem is this [02:26] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib#compiling_32-bit_programs [02:27] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [02:27] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:27] here alien says that some vars are changed.....how can i restore them? [02:27] thx [02:28] did you remove /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh ? [02:30] yes. that file has been removed [02:30] did you just do it? you have to logout and relogin after that [02:30] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [02:32] no. that was 2 days ago. that file is needed only for setting up 32bit compile set but it does not anything more. [02:33] OclkdMan: does it have something to do with the lib folder? [02:33] lib32 or whatever (just taking a guess) [02:33] yes i think so [02:35] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [02:35] is /usr/lib64 symlnk'd to /usr/lib. just a guess [02:36] is there benefit to installing slack 64 vs slack 32 ? [02:36] o_o captain obvious question? :3 [02:37] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:37] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.50.67) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:39] Kaapa (~Something@bl11-145-164.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:39] heroid (heroid@gnewsense.mtveurope.org) left ##slackware. [02:39] Kaapa (~Something@bl10-136-197.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [02:40] is there a script to set back things changed by http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/source/compat32-tools/32dev.sh ? [02:42] i cannot compile 64bit progs anymore. cmake try to use i686 [02:42] this file doesnt change anything. when its sourced it just exports some stuff [02:42] OclkdMan: can you export ARCH=x86_64 ? [02:43] OclkdMan: you don't have export ARCH=i686 set in .bashrc do you? [02:44] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:44] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-164.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:45] or /etc/profile [02:45] now that i've "#export ARCH=x86_64" the compilation works correctly. where can i find .bachrc? [02:45] ^^ [02:46] i mena bashrc [02:46] *mean [02:46] is there anything there any file manager that supports webdav? [02:46] it is not in /root [02:46] besides nautilus [02:46] err [02:46] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:46] OclkdMan: it's a hidden file [02:46] typo.. is there any file manager* [02:46] .bashrc [02:47] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [02:47] ...yes i know. #vim /root/.bashrc does not work [02:48] OclkdMan: http://www.faqs.org/docs/abs/HTML/files.html [02:48] OclkdMan: create it if it doesn't exist [02:49] ok. thanks [02:50] there are some example ones linked there too, and others you can find with google. [02:50] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-62-45.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [02:50] OclkdMan: you also will want a .bash_profile though it should only source .bashrc, for example; [02:51] http://dpaste.com/186425/ [02:51] .bash_profile should look something like that. [02:52] ok. i think something was wrong in /etc/bashrc [02:53] echelon, any luck with cadaver with WebDAV? [02:54] I think Dolphin supports WebDAV. [02:54] There is also a FUSE module if you just want to mount it. 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[03:20] tsccof (~tsccof@189.73.163.43) joined ##slackware. [03:21] hi, has anyone successfully compiled Inkscape on slack-current? [03:21] MLanden, was wrong.. gftp has no webdav support [03:22] i'll try cadaver [03:22] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [03:22] echelon,ok...good luck [03:22] thanks :) [03:23] tsccof, any errors on compiling Inkscape? [03:24] dios_mio (mirc@88.236.183.56) joined ##slackware. [03:24] MLanden: yes, when compiling gtkmm, I am using SlackBuilds, I have compiled and install all dependencies for compiling gtkmm [03:24] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:25] MLanden: just a sec, I will try again and report it if I get any errors this time [03:25] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.79.151) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:26] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.79.151) joined ##slackware. [03:28] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.184.158) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [03:31] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:31] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-164.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:31] MLanden: http://pastebin.com/83gJxJu7 [03:32] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.35.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:32] that is the error I am getting [03:33] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.79.179) joined ##slackware. [03:35] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:35] tsccof, could be that the mm are having conflicts with the files they're wrapping...what version of gtk and glibc do you have installed? [03:36] gtk+-1.2.10-i486-5 gtk+2-2.18.7-i486-2 [03:37] I think gtk is doubled [03:37] glibc-2.11.1-i486-2 [03:37] nah,ones for gtk1(for xmms etc.) ..the others gtk2 [03:38] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [03:41] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.135.245) joined ##slackware. [03:43] tsccof, check out this from inkscape's site http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Slackware [03:43] Reaver1 (Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left ##slackware. [03:43] Action: tsccof hugs MLanden [03:43] MLanden: thank you! [03:43] installing the packages will do the trick [03:44] tsccof, handshake'll do...it's all good...good luck [03:46] thanks [03:46] tsccof, just do a mental note and check if their are other programs that may need to be reinstalled(recompiled) with the changes [03:47] MLanden: okay.. I keep a source tree file and a local repository of sources and slackbuilds, I will add hints there if needed [03:53] MLanden: Slackware package /tmp/gsl-1.13-i486-1_SBo.tgz created. ;) [03:54] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:54] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.125.41) left irc: Quit: We were always meant to say goodbye... [03:57] ayaz (~ayaz@linuxpakistan/ayaz) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:57] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.135.245) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:57] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:57] tsccof, is the gsl libs allowing inkscape to compile ? [03:58] MLanden: yeah! everything seems to be working fine so far [03:58] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [03:58] MLanden: after I install gtkmm using installpkg from that page you sent me [03:58] installed* [04:00] simplex (~simplex@twopenguins.it) joined ##slackware. [04:00] tsccof, cool [04:00] MLanden: I am setting up a workstation running Slack and inkscape is a must have for us [04:02] tsccof, using drawing tablets for input? or just mice? [04:03] MLanden: mice only, we do not use it for heavy drawing, just simple logo creation. we are actually starting a web development company, so gedit and vim do most of the job [04:05] tsccof, cool..just asking out of curiosity [04:06] MLanden: sure, no problem :) [04:09] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [04:11] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.81.131) joined ##slackware. [04:14] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:15] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [04:17] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.81.131) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [04:21] gaz (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [04:23] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [04:25] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:27] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:31] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.194.62) joined ##slackware. [04:31] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [04:32] can anyone on the east coast recommend a fast slack mirror? [04:33] the last few i tried that were advertised as having high-bandwidth connections had very slow downloads [04:33] boris``. sec [04:33] uh, carroll works for me. [04:34] # Ireland, 1Gbit < this one is very fast [04:34] http://ftp.heanet.ie [04:34] thanks kindly [04:34] Morn [04:35] tsccof (~tsccof@189.73.163.43) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:35] i get about 12mbps from carroll. [04:35] WildWizard (~michael@ppp118-208-41-220.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:38] sidh (~tinom@intellitec2.net) joined ##slackware. [04:38] greetings Gentlemen [04:38] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Take care,folks [04:39] I have to install a Linux on a recent laptop with 4 GB RAM, and i wonder, if i choose a 32 bits version with non PAE kernel, how much RAM will I loose ? [04:40] 2.5G [04:40] www.loseloose.com [04:40] bah [04:40] 0.5G [04:40] not 2.5 [04:43] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:43] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:43] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.194.62) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [04:47] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [04:54] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:55] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [04:57] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.166.187) joined ##slackware. [04:58] newslacker (kc@75-121-100-111.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [04:59] sjamma (~9962cb45@gateway/web/freenode/x-afyxtnxkzicpxppc) joined ##slackware. [05:02] sidh ive got 4gb of ram in my laptop and not modified the kernel yet and i am showing 3,113,516 [05:02] thats how much ram the system is seeing [05:02] It varies from system to system [05:04] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:04] whaow more than 800 MB is lost [05:05] i can't afford that loss [05:05] thank you very much gaz [05:05] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [05:06] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.127.32) joined ##slackware. [05:08] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:09] why would you install a 32-bit kernel without PAE anyway? [05:10] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. 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[05:32] Zordrak: ;) , yes , even if i will certainly use slim/fluxbox or Openbox [05:32] 2.6.29.6? 2.6.18? [05:32] and urxvt/zsh as main apps [05:33] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:33] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [05:33] Zordrak: it was at the beginning of 10gR2 [05:33] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:34] so i would say 2.6.18 or a little after [05:36] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [05:36] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:37] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) joined ##slackware. [05:39] sidh: then surely theres an extreme likelihood that the kernel panic is fixed.. [05:42] ok so maybe i should retry with a PAE kernel [05:42] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.225.252) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:43] does Slackare provides on on install process ? [05:43] provides one on install process ? 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[06:23] Zordrak: ok i'll try with a highmem64 [06:26] john_dee (~id@93-81-69-253.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [06:26] bah.. 64 monsieur :) [06:27] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.79.151) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:27] john_dee (~id@93-81-69-253.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:27] wow.. no results for gpu [06:27] suck McHard [06:28] jery_ (~jery@116.68.82.27) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [06:29] jery_ (~jery@116.68.82.27) joined ##slackware. [06:32] alkos333 (~alkos333@70-8-114-70.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:34] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:17] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:18] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:18] phrag: hella yes [07:19] i has a blog post titled "OpenVPN: The ONLY VPN" [07:19] we have openvpn server running, and others can connect np.. however my client is not assigning an IP to the tun device, and subsequently not adding routes.. others clients work just fine, any idea's ? [07:20] So it,s just your client.. [07:20] pb the log? [07:21] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6E1CE.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:21] assuming dhcp server checks out ok... [07:22] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [07:25] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [07:25] goj (~goj@p4FE6CEF0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [07:25] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [07:28] phrag, you broke it :) go home. [07:28] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-254-158.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:34] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:35] Kaapa (~Something@bl6-207-241.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [07:37] Kaapa (~Something@bl10-138-83.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:37] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-gxrxqhwcouwyccwf) joined ##slackware. [07:38] actualmind (~bd5aa03c@gateway/web/freenode/x-giluvtgsoafclqdy) joined ##slackware. [07:42] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-53-193.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [07:43] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@12.189.110.2) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:44] wow.. i knew mount -t nfs -o noac was a performance hit.. but its like taking the engine out of the car kind of performance hit [07:46] Zordrak: dont you use thunderbird as an email client? i was wondering do you use IMAP by any chance? [07:46] sahk0: yepperzino [07:46] remote IMAP or you download the emails locally? [07:46] jery (~jery@116.68.82.27) joined ##slackware. [07:47] i never get notifications on new emails. i have to access the folders to see the number of new emails in each [07:47] do you have that too? [07:47] theres an option for that i think [07:47] i searched earlier but didnt find anything [07:48] sec.. [07:48] but will do so again in a few mins. maybe i have to favourite them? [07:49] oh tbird calls it 'favorite' [07:50] mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new [07:50] sahk0: you can define folder as favorite [07:50] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-53-193.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:50] fwiw i work on TB2.. tb3 is still so everso horribly broken [07:51] wheres the mail.check_etc config? [07:51] about:config [07:51] prefs / advanced / config editor [07:52] Zordrak: you think? After 3.0 went stable it's been very good [07:52] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:52] Kaapa: the indexing seems totally broken.. or just incapable of handling a large volume [07:52] haqe19 (~minty@host-137-205-27-085.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:53] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [07:53] and every time i start up tb3 i have so much trouble just getting it to work right i kill it and drop back [07:53] ah, that should do. thanks Zordrak [07:54] sahk0: i dont recall if it actually works.. but feel free to report back [07:54] ok:) [07:54] sahk0: whats your imap server? [07:54] Zordrak: there's been great improvements in indexing [07:54] i have never got used to using tbird [07:54] tbird + nostalgy extension made me replace mutt after 15 years [07:54] Zordrak: mail.messagingengine.com, fastmail fm's one [07:55] withoug nostalgy is useless [07:55] i meant the daemon :) .. in any case: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/?s=thunderbird [07:55] Hi, I have a fresh install of slack 13. just need to configure grub to boot it, there are no initrd.img files in /boot so im a bit confused, can anyone help? [07:55] In case you start getting corrupt attachments [07:55] haqe19: by default there is no initrd [07:55] haqe19: unless you make one [07:56] haqe19: the default kernel is huge and doesnt require one [07:56] Zordrak: ok, [07:56] if you swap to the generic kernel (as you should) then you will need to make one with mkinitrd [07:56] haqe19: or alternativel build in the modules you need so an initrd is unnecessary as detailed in the 10 step kernel compile guide at http://blog.tpa.me.uk/slackware-kernel-compile-guide/ [07:57] i need to create a set of FAQ aliases in irssi :) tires out my fingers [07:58] mcury (~mcury@189.24.29.245) joined ##slackware. [07:58] Zordrak: ok, but im having problems booting the default huge kernel, [07:59] problems booting the kernel or problems getting cgrub to see and load it? [07:59] Kaapa: thanks for the suggestion, ill try nostalgy [08:00] Zordrak: getting grub to find it i think. It is grub2, and v confusing. The error is says is it cant find disk ( i think). Are you familiar with grub2 ? [08:00] familiar is as far as id go as i use lilo exclusively on slackware [08:01] but if it cant find the disk it would suggest you might have the wrong hd(x,y) [08:01] actualmind (~bd5aa03c@gateway/web/freenode/x-giluvtgsoafclqdy) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:03] Zordrak: http://pastebin.com/QPgtgGXA could you have a look? [08:03] Zordrak: slack was installed to /dev/sda2 [08:04] LOL: in a pkg, bashlib, the webdocs say "it is autoconfiscated" LOL [08:04] haqe19, I don't think /dev/sda,2 is right at all [08:04] mr-S^b43 (~mr-S^b43@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:05] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.31.202) joined ##slackware. [08:05] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:05] itsm not [08:05] haqe19: grub doesn work of linux device nodes [08:06] haqe19: it works off its own hardware list [08:06] set root=(hd0,2) would be correct [08:06] haqe19: instead of (/dev/sda,2) it should be like hd(0,1) or sthg [08:08] haqe19, try something like this? http://pastebin.com/CwPMuCtH [08:09] anyone familiar with bonnie++ [08:09] thrice`: ok, so that would mean 2nd partition on 1st disk? [08:09] correct [08:09] only that she was a hot babe when I dated her many many moons ago [08:09] done three runs.. bun on one of them theres a bunch of results that arent digits theyre +++ not sure why [08:10] thrice`: ok, but for example set root=(/dev/hda,1) [08:10] haqe19: thats just plain wrong [08:11] nope, thats the config im using atm to boot debian [08:11] haqe19, I'm not familiar with that syntax. I use something like I posted when I tried grub2 on slack [08:12] hm.. maybe grub2 has some new funkiness i dont know about then [08:12] bah.. lilo ftw :) [08:13] Zordrak: yeah? ok il try lilo. it should find my debian installation too right? [08:13] it's weird, it starts at "1" instead of "0" now [08:13] haqe19: itss find it if you tell it where it is [08:13] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.115.31.202) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:13] *it'll [08:13] haqe19, did you even try my posted config? it might JustWork [08:14] epoch (~epoch@p3m/member/epoch) joined ##slackware. [08:14] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@p3m/member/epoch' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [08:14] epoch kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Seeya, trooooollll. Actions have consequences. Adults understand that. [08:15] thrice`: ok ill try both set root=(hd0,2) and root=(hd1,2) [08:15] use /dev/sda2 for the second root= in the linux line [08:15] haqe19, http://pastebin.com/CwPMuCtH [08:15] FYI: basics of grub2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 [08:16] rihaz (~jery@116.68.82.27) joined ##slackware. [08:16] rihaz (~jery@116.68.82.27) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:16] thrice`: ok, brb [08:16] haqe19 (~minty@host-137-205-27-085.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Quit: leaving [08:16] and to set root partition to boot: set root=(hd0,2) ( first disk, second partition ) [08:16] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430454.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:16] run update-grup afterwards as root to apply the changes [08:16] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [08:17] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424064.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:18] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) joined ##slackware. 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Thu Apr 22 13:52:43 2010 Initialization Sequence Completed [08:53] alkos333 (~alkos333@70-8-234-95.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:54] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [08:54] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:54] ckware(+Pcfjnt #overflow 3:3)] [Act: 4,5,3,6,1] [08:54] [##slackware] q [08:54] tun device is created, and listing with ifconfig, shows no IP on the interface [08:55] does the config file specify ip and route info? [08:55] and obviously no route either [08:55] alisonken1noc: no, it shouldn't on the client side [08:55] afaik [08:55] that's interesting, since my config has that info in it and works fine [08:55] really? [08:56] well i don't mind specifying in client config, just want it working [08:56] though others are using older version of openvpn and the route is pushed from server [08:56] alisonken1noc: so what do i need roughly ? [08:57] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:58] |Slacker| (1000@189.117.21.159) joined ##slackware. [08:58] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/3X0dRX39.html <-- my openvpn config file with notes for actual ports/ip/routes [08:59] hmm, thing is the gateway changes, so i won't know what to set each time [08:59] should be pushed by the server config [08:59] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:00] my config specifies : client, dev, proto, remote, resolve-retry, nobind, user, group, persist-key, persist-tun, ca, cect, key, ns-cert-type, comp-lzo, verb and auth-user-pass [09:00] thats it [09:00] nothing about routes, nets [09:00] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [09:01] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [09:01] (this is layer2 btw .. tap rather than tun) [09:01] hmm - your server has a different IP every time you connect? [09:01] ok - I don't use tap [09:02] since im supporting windows clients.. tap just made sense.. let windows do its stupid networky crap natively [09:02] we have a fixed public IP for our vpn server [09:03] same here Zordrak [09:03] phrag: paste config and output.. cant guarantee to spot anything, but worth a look [09:07] fatherx (~fatherx@88.103.79.188) joined ##slackware. [09:07] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/2pEaZ310.html [09:07] brb, vpn smoke break =P [09:07] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.160.73) joined ##slackware. [09:07] Zordrak: tbird now works better, thanks [09:08] C00re (hard@unaffiliated/c00re) joined ##slackware. [09:08] hi, I have updated my kernel from 2.4 to 2.6 and know the ethernet connection is not picking up, any ideas? [09:08] sahk0: np [09:09] fatherx, you just updated the kernel and nothing else? [09:09] Action: Zordrak stabs Dominian for setting up such a finger-hating pastebin [09:09] eh? [09:09] lol.. anyone know how long firefox has had a "this could void your warranty" disclaimer when you open about:config? [09:09] its based off of rafb [09:09] quitcherbitching [09:09] Dominian: :) [09:09] yes just the kernel, also I can say it activated the dhcpcd dont know why [09:09] jhw (~jhw@p57982BB2.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:09] jhw (~jhw@p57982BB2.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:10] functionoverform: ages [09:10] haha, that's what i get for upgrading from firefox 2, this month [09:10] Dominian: i dant have access to paste to my ff.. o i have to type them out.. using pb.ca i just have to type out a number.. with slackadelic its a long ass url with /p/ an assortment of upporcase lowercase and digits and then .html [09:10] idd [09:10] fatherx, which version of slackware? [09:11] phrag: the only real difference between yours and mine is i use udp not tcp... [09:11] Zordrak: how's that my problem? :) [09:11] might try udp - seems to work better [09:11] Peer Connection Initiated, Initialization Sequence Completed [09:11] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:208:21a:80ff:fee1:9f75) joined ##slackware. [09:11] phrag: would like to see the full output [09:11] slackware 11.0 and updated the kernel with the huge in slackware 12.0 [09:11] it's weird, i'll try udp! [09:11] Dominian: it's your problem! [09:11] I really don't care what pastebin people use to be honest.. I just put that up as people missed rafb.net's [09:11] phrag: also.. it sounds daft.. but you have loaded the tun module, right? [09:11] fatherx: not recommended, usually major version bumps also have gcc lib upgrades that can break your system [09:12] phrag: (the tun module being for tun and tap) [09:12] unless you upgrade the libraries as well [09:12] (among other things) [09:12] hmm, seems to hang [09:12] at UDPv4 link remote: [09:13] alisonken1noc, well the thing is that I want to upgrade the box but it only have cdrom and the only cd available for installation its the slackware 11.0 [09:13] phrag: if server is set for tcp you need tcp [09:13] phrag: would be suprised if the server will take both [09:13] fatherx: will the box boot from usb? [09:14] think I would grab cd1 from 13.0 and do net install [09:14] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.160.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:14] alisonken1noc, no :S it really old. [09:15] fatherx: as dive noted, you can also get cd1 for slackware 13.0 and finish the install over the network [09:15] point it at an ftp [09:15] if you have no local mirror [09:16] phrag: yes.. for tcp and udp thered have to be two daemons [09:17] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [09:17] fail =/ [09:17] I have a partition with 13.0 but when i try to install from the partition it just want to install the base system, is this correct? [09:17] honestly, its output looks great, no errors, seems completed [09:17] facebook: "sorry we're not cool enough to support your browser." [09:17] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:17] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:17] fatherx, it should install everything [09:18] phrag: lsmod | grep tun ? [09:18] dive, even if im booting from the 11.0 cd? [09:18] haqe19, which browser, out of interest? [09:18] dive: links. [09:18] fatherx, hmm there could be some problems then [09:18] fatherx, can you get hold of CD1 from 13.0? [09:19] Zordrak: yeh, the device is created, just no ip [09:19] haqe19: curl it matrix-stylee :) [09:19] yes I think so [09:19] yeah BOI guis are for noobs [09:19] phrag: maybe its a simple dhcpfail? [09:19] will do that thanks [09:19] Zordrak: it's not assigned by dhcpcd isn't it? [09:19] fatherx, it would be much better if you did that. [09:20] phrag: no, openvpn assigns it to the tap device (im 99% anyway) [09:20] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [09:20] hah 'please keep it real with one of the following browsers:' [09:20] phrag: but openvpn still needs a dhcp response [09:21] haqe19, you could try elinks+fake useragent [09:21] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:21] dont' know if links does that [09:22] dive: Zordak said i should curl it matrix-stylee [09:22] possible [09:23] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [09:23] just watch those high kicks ;-) [09:24] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[09:29] to complex that wont do :) [09:29] heh [09:29] rworkman ftw [09:29] hi, which package should I install for virtual box ? [09:29] nader: qemu, of course. [09:30] how do i get xargs to run a multi-cmd-list? [09:30] nader: virtualbox-ose && virtualbox-kernel [09:30] nader: or pull the blob from the virtualbox website if you want USB support [09:30] and/or a less time-consuming installation [09:31] mtkoan (mtkoan@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-rzofbhlpetjwbeqn) left irc: Changing host [09:31] mtkoan (mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) joined ##slackware. [09:31] mtkoan (mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) left irc: Changing host [09:31] mtkoan (mtkoan@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-rzofbhlpetjwbeqn) joined ##slackware. [09:31] Zordrak, how about addons? [09:31] nader: not if slack is the host [09:31] you only need addons if slack is the guest [09:32] umm, my query? [09:32] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.23.205) joined ##slackware. [09:32] jery (~jery@116.68.82.27) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:33] <|Slacker|> hey there people... [09:33] Zordrak, ok [09:33] how do i get xargs to run a multi-cmd-list? [09:34] SunTzu, why ? [09:34] i need more than one thing to be done to xargs' input [09:35] xargs `something && somthingelse` ? [09:35] k [09:36] dunno juts a guess [09:36] s/juts/just [09:36] nop; that failed [09:37] are you calling xargs from find ? [09:37] no, piped [09:37] producing html anchor list from filenames [09:38] find | xargs 'basename|printf' [09:38] you mean `find -blah -print0 | xargs -0 foo && bar` ? [09:38] no nulls [09:38] bleh [09:38] find path | ... [09:39] any good reason to use a long argument list ? [09:39] well, it's not that long yet [09:39] find path | while read ; do stuff ; done [09:39] while read $var [09:39] well, you get the point [09:39] but given my bad experiences with xargs barfing, i'll be watching for that [09:39] yea [09:40] i could move the '' string to -exec [09:40] makes sense [09:40] i'm writing a wikiWiki in bash from the ground up [09:40] -exec cmd {}; cmd2 {} \; [09:40] find has its own xargs-like feature for -exec [09:41] yea, that i know. [09:41] but i started out by using bin/printf before prefixing xargs to printf [09:41] which printf was unwrapped from awk [09:41] see, there's a reason for the madness :) [09:41] heh [09:42] stepwise refinement gone awry [09:42] lol [09:42] (all hail Wirth) [09:42] note to self.. dont move an archived homedir to /tmp when /tmp is mounted on smap [09:42] *swap [09:42] amen. [09:42] *HEADDESK* [09:42] FACEKBD [09:42] *FAIL* [09:42] not when you hear the *KLUNK* [09:43] [ in bed ] [09:43] oookay [09:43] that's what she said [09:43] http://changelog.complete.org/archives/1463-mora [09:44] faild [09:44] Action: Zordrak takes away Dominian's wodka [09:44] btw, on the remote debian host, mc's keymap is incomplete; how do i poke sysadmin there to fix it? [09:44] sysadmin where? [09:44] email them [09:44] call them [09:44] OH, i just got [09:44] pls, it's debian, what does root know? :) [09:44] heh [09:45] rworkman, I'm using qemu for winxp but I have 1GB ram and my cpu doesn't support kvm... and it's slow [09:45] kvm is deprecated now, iirc [09:45] since when? [09:45] nader, try wine if the whole OS isn't needed [09:45] jery (~jery@116.68.82.27) joined ##slackware. [09:46] debian is deprecated? LOL [09:46] afaik, redhat was moving all the virtualization stuff to KVM [09:46] oh, wrong context [09:46] so I doubt its deprecated [09:46] deprecation (generally) is subjective anyway [09:46] Dominian: not sure i think i read somewhere about it. but dont use qemu. not sure [09:47] must remove christmas album from playlist... [09:48] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-182.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:50] logicport (~logicport@host86-167-83-214.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:50] Error removing file: Operation not permitted [09:50] anyone know why its not allowing me to access(well i can view contents but not full permissions i.e 777) any other partions, even when i enter root password. [09:50] what are you trying to do? [09:51] logicport: ntfs partitions? [09:51] access my other partioon [09:51] jery (~jery@116.68.82.27) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:51] well its shared with win7 [09:51] logicport: mount -t ntfs-3g -o rw [09:52] <_RadioHead> hey Dominian dude , how are you ? [09:52] _RadioHead: tired... you? [09:52] <_RadioHead> Dominian: sleepy :) [09:52] heh [09:52] Zordrak: any certain partition [09:52] i know its [09:52] ? [09:52] /dev/sda2 [09:52] logicport chk ACL perms with lsattr [09:53] umount /dev/sda2; mount -t ntfs-3g -o rw /dev/sda2 /mount_point [09:53] chk also mounted options via mount.8 [09:53] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.127.32) left irc: Quit: We were always meant to say goodbye... [09:53] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [09:53] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:53] in root? [09:53] well yeah [09:54] SunTzu: whatst tht [09:54] huhhuh? [09:54] if he spits an ENOENT on the mount point im gonna slit him a new one [09:54] run lsattr in a mounted dir [09:54] lol [09:54] s/slit/rip/ in polite company pls :) [09:54] SunTzu: slit is fine [09:55] Zordrak: Didnt work [09:55] pastebin the output of "mount" [09:55] <_RadioHead> logicport: can you as root check first your partitions with fdisk -l ? [09:56] also pastebin the output of "mount" of lsattr /mount_point [09:56] fdisk dont need root afaik [09:56] il paste bin both [09:56] fdisk -l i mean [09:56] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:208:21a:80ff:fee1:9f75) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:57] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:57] Urugami (~KB5YRZ@197.sub-97-26-23.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [09:59] fdisk -l here http://pastebin.com/ddLJB4P8 [09:59] Zordrak: also pastebin the output of "mount" of lsattr /mount_point ??? [10:00] what you mean mount point [10:00] s/of/or? [10:00] also pastebin the output of "mount" of lsattr /mount_point [10:00] ooops [10:01] mount: can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab [10:01] pastebin the output of "mount". Also pastebin the output of "lsattr /mount_point" where /mount_point is where the partition is wounted [10:01] mount /dev/sda2 [10:01] tht was [10:01] not "mount /dev/sda2". "mount" [10:02] <_RadioHead> logicport: example "mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/tmp" [10:04] theres nothing in /mnt noticed earlier [10:04] _RadioHead: no [10:04] logicport: for the love of god. type this: [10:04] mount [10:04] then when it gives you output paste it at http://pastebin.ca [10:04] it. is. not. hard. [10:04] hehe [10:05] http://pastebin.com/7DJ8ZzFS [10:05] apparantly it was [10:06] lol [10:06] ......... [10:06] you dont have sda2 mounted [10:06] <_RadioHead> Zordrak: :) [10:06] paissad (~paissad-s@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [10:06] http://pastebin.com/7DJ8ZzFS [10:06] ooops [10:06] what's wrong here: ``find pages -exec 'echo {}' \; ?? [10:06] logicport: paste this next line PRECISELY [10:06] [root@localhost logicport]# mount /dev/sda2 [10:06] mount: can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab [10:07] wudnt let me mount [10:07] mount devnode /path [10:07] wait there il try another way [10:07] mkdir /mnt/sda2; mount -t ntfs-3g -o rw /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2 [10:07] neBu (1000@neBu.ro) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:07] do that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [10:07] *nothing* else [10:07] JUST that [10:08] theF?! [10:08] in root? [10:08] logicport: you're on fscking ubuntu arent you?! [10:08] nahhhhh [10:08] hahaha [10:08] <_RadioHead> logicport: yes as root [10:08] naaaa [10:08] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:09] no wonder you dant know what the fsck you're doing. [10:09] right some asked me this earlier [10:09] mount [10:09] /dev/sda2 on /media/4C16E5601191C71B type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=0077) [10:09] i got tht [10:09] for this [10:09] i got [10:09] wth kind of pathname is that?! [10:09] Dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.. [10:09] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:09] mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-3g' [10:09] Zordrak lemme poke at it once... [10:09] or twice [10:09] nah it was output [10:09] logicport: go to #ubuntu [10:09] werent summit i typed [10:10] and i dont use ubuntu [10:10] logicport YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE? :) [10:10] logicport is the sda2 mounted now? [10:11] uhuh apparently [10:11] i see it mounted on the desktop [10:11] logicport does ls-l /dev/sda2 show the node exists? [10:12] brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 2 Apr 22 14:41 /dev/sda2 [10:12] fonseg (~bnguyen@58.187.119.170) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:12] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:12] logicport does /media/.hal-mtab exist? [10:12] [root@localhost logicport]# cat /media/.hal-mtab [10:12] cat: /media/.hal-mtab: No such file or directory [10:12] ok [10:12] SunTzu: find pages -printf "%h%f\n" # is that OK ? [10:13] do: grep sda2 /etc/fstab; # show one line here pls. [10:13] trhodes that looks interesting; will try in a sec [10:13] logicport: cat /etc/slackware-version [10:13] actually "find pages -printf "%h/%f\n" " [10:13] nothing [10:13] k [10:13] <_RadioHead> Zordrak: good idea [10:13] SunTzu: 15:12:24 < Zordrak> logicport: cat /etc/slackware-version [10:14] logicport add a line in fstab for sda2 partition. [10:14] The reason it doesnt work is because its not slackware [10:14] SunTzu: ? [10:14] Zordrak i didnt ask about dist version. [10:14] hmmmm i used 2 use slackware [10:14] Zordrak point arrived. [10:14] i thought there difference wouldnt be to great [10:14] obv it is [10:14] SunTzu: the solution (if he was using slack) is to use ntfs-3g and mount rw [10:14] lesson learnt [10:14] he isnt. [10:14] nods [10:14] im using arch btw [10:14] so it isnt [10:15] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@p3m/member/epoch expired. [10:15] k [10:15] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@p3m/member/epoch' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:15] logicport: then #arch [10:15] or #archlinux or whatever it is [10:15] Zordrak: i have there no help [10:15] forums [10:15] logicport: then youre SOL [10:15] whats slack like these days? [10:15] ent used it since 7 [10:15] logicport: what kind of answer are you hoping for? [10:15] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:16] logicport if there is NO line in fstab for a devnode, then you must mount manually with `mount -options /dev/node /to/path' [10:16] TriniTuX (~chatzilla@cuscon123741.tstt.net.tt) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:16] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:16] TriniTuX (~chatzilla@cuscon123741.tstt.net.tt) joined ##slackware. [10:16] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:18] trhodes very nice!! ty [10:19] SunTzu: yw, you can pipe that to a while read if you need to do somthing fancier [10:19] yea [10:19] must be some "modern" "new fangled" find [10:19] heh [10:20] Action: Zordrak is feeling very proud. After benchmarking it seems it is faster to write to his new RAID61 over the network than it is to write to local disks on the simulation servers [10:20] paissad (~paissad-s@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:21] via nbd? [10:21] SunTzu: no [10:21] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [10:21] SunTzu: drbd [10:21] <_RadioHead> Zordrak: you told me that few days ago you are working on raid31 , how goes? [10:21] does anyone know if there is a unix-taoish text2wiki tool? [10:21] Zordrak k [10:21] _RadioHead: 61 [10:22] <_RadioHead> ups 61 sorry [10:22] IOW, a standard style wiki filter? [10:22] i just said its going ^^ [10:22] <_RadioHead> :) [10:23] paissad (~paissad-s@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:23] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [10:23] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:23] paissad (~paissad-s@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[10:37] yes I know about xorg.conf [10:37] forgot about -configure too [10:37] I googled but it wasnt doing much, lols [10:39] logicport (~logicport@host86-167-83-214.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:40] fatalnix_ (~fatalnix@208.233.36.250) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:41] sjamma (~9962cb45@gateway/web/freenode/x-afyxtnxkzicpxppc) left irc: Quit: Page closed [10:42] <_RadioHead> tomorrow people init ~/. [10:42] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:42] fatalnix (~fatalnix@208.233.36.250) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:42] is/should libgconf be included in the default installation? because I cant find it, and firefox wants it [10:42] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:43] evanton (~lol@unaffiliated/evanton) joined ##slackware. [10:43] no it doesnt [10:43] haqe19: ff doesnt need it at all here [10:44] what are you trying to do with firefox that cant be done cause of the missing libgconf? [10:44] guys, don't you happen to have in bookmarks a link to a good reading about setting ccache to work in slackware? [10:44] maybe somebody has investigated this and could point me to some lazy blog post? [10:44] just executing the binary, error while loading shared libraries: libgconf-2.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [10:45] haqe19: /usr/libexec/firefox-*/firefox-bin? [10:45] logicport (~logicport@host86-167-83-214.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:45] haqe19: when i ldd mine libgconf is not there.. goes from libatk to libgdk [10:46] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:46] no, /usr/bin/firefox [10:46] thats a script [10:46] not a binary [10:48] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [10:48] haqe19: which suggests youre not using slackware's own ff package, or you're not using slackware, or you've just thoroughly broken it in ways i cant explain [10:48] lies im using the mozilla-firefox package from xap [10:49] and the output of $ ldd $(which firefox) ? [10:49] hi, Why in KDE 4.3.5 don't show oxigen icons? [10:49] gades: have you got the oxygen icons package installed? [10:50] Zordrak: as you said, its a script "not a dynamic executable" [10:50] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:50] haqe19: and $ ldd /usr/lib/firefox-*/firefox-bin ? [10:51] Zordrak, were before moving to current [10:51] gades: they didnt exist in 13.0 [10:52] theyre an addition te -current [10:52] gades: so id put my money on you forgetting to --install-new [10:53] Zordrak: theres no libgconf in there [10:53] haqe19: indeed [10:54] so.. i thoroughly fail to see how you have a libgconf dependency if running the slackware /usr/bin/firefox script to load a firefox-bin that does not depend on libgconf [10:54] Zordrak, :) [10:54] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:55] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [10:57] gades: how many others were you missing? :) [10:57] Zordrak: yes ok v articulate . im gonna pastebin the error output [10:58] OddtheCat (ol_slacker@173-9-254-103-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:59] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:00] Zordrak, no others, thanks! [11:00] gades: thats somewhat surprising.. [11:00] http://pastebin.com/aeNEriwP [11:01] juice (1000@67.48.16.231) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:01] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [11:02] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [11:03] ok.. so its crashreporter thats looking for libgconf [11:03] nee-chan (~Mantosky@82-171-26-177.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:03] logicport (~logicport@host86-167-83-214.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:03] Nick change: rhisadotcom -> risa [11:03] Nick change: risa -> riza [11:03] juice (1000@67.48.16.231) joined ##slackware. [11:04] (which mine doesnt, but i have 3.6 not 3.5 so cant comment [11:05] did you do what it says about pango modules? [11:05] evanton (~lol@unaffiliated/evanton) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:05] Zordrak: yeah, [11:05] what exact version of slack is it? [11:06] hi everyone.. What folder directory located for firefox mozilla? [11:06] Zordrak: 13.0 2.6.29.6-smp [11:06] datace: The package? The binary? The script launcher? [11:07] yep the package [11:07] xap i think [11:07] datace: use find [11:07] or plugins directory for mozila [11:07] datace: that doesnt make any sonse [11:07] *sense [11:07] datace: what are you trying todo? [11:08] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:08] haqe19: just trying to see if i have a 32bit 13.0 anywhere here [11:08] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:08] I'm going to paste flash plugins for firefox.. [11:08] datace: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins [11:09] thnx [11:09] haqe19: got one [11:09] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [11:10] nader (~nader@85.133.204.146) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:10] ok.. confirmed the crashreporter depends on libgconf in 13.0 [11:10] but thats been resolved since [11:10] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:11] So your problem is a pango problem [11:11] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left ##slackware. [11:11] Zordrak: what? [11:12] haqe19: /etc/pango/i486-slackware-linux/pango.modules [11:12] do you have it? does it contain stuff? [11:13] rogersman (~gr235423@nat/sun/x-ppdglaliemskmnsq) joined ##slackware. [11:13] Zordrak: pango.modules exists, but it is empty [11:14] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:14] right.. thats how its installed [11:15] haqe19: run /usr/bin/update-pango-querymodules --verbose [11:15] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [11:16] (as root) [11:16] Zordrak: done, [11:16] now start ff [11:16] Zordrak: works... [11:16] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:16] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.27.111) joined ##slackware. [11:17] haqe19: grep pango /etc/rc.d/rc.M [11:17] it should be done during boot [11:17] Zordrak: cool, so is this a bug? [11:17] no [11:17] $ grep pango /etc/rc.d/rc.M [11:18] if [ -x /usr/bin/update-pango-querymodules ]; then /usr/bin/update-pango-querymodules --verbose [11:18] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [11:18] sorry about that, dodjy middle click [11:18] O_o [11:18] thats how it should be [11:18] when did you last reboot? [11:18] Zordrak: oh, I didnt reboot after installing [11:18] >.< [11:19] xd thanks [11:19] reboot. right now. [11:19] yes sir [11:19] jery (~jery@116.68.82.27) joined ##slackware. [11:20] hey all, just wondering if AlienBOB's script for USB installation is compatible with slackware-current ... getting some weird errors trying to create it [11:20] v3gard (vegard@svale.hia.no) left ##slackware. [11:20] haqe19 (~root@host-137-205-27-085.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:20] rogersman: as far as i know, the stuff in -current/usb-and-pxe-installers is fine [11:21] v3gard (~vegard@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [11:21] Zordrak: nk, I'll keep digging... [11:22] rogersman: whats the errors? [11:23] im running create_multipartboot.sh from AlienBOB and receiving "ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy [11:24] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:24] ah.. thats different.. thats alienBOB's 3rd party stuff rather than the stuff shipped in usb-and-pxe-installers isnt it? [11:25] haqe19 (~root@host-137-205-27-085.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:25] yeah :-) [11:29] rogersman: read http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/installing-slackware-using-usb-thumb-drive/ - it will be easier, and this article uses the script that is now also updated in slackware-current/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [11:31] alienBOB: awesome as always, danke [11:32] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:32] If I may ask, when is the release date for the next version? [11:32] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [11:34] riza: when it is ready [11:34] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-217-107.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:35] :) [11:35] No eta? [11:38] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [11:39] riza RSN [11:39] Sorry, RSN? [11:39] real soon now; a completely vacuous and pie-in-the-sky measure of Time. [11:39] :) [11:40] AK VaporWare [11:40] AKA [11:40] as in, it dont exist yet. :)~ [11:40] Ah. [11:40] or, a power point exhibition. [11:41] ssixx (~siss@212.183.140.3) joined ##slackware. [11:41] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:42] anyone installed a rt3070sta driver ? [11:42] http://pastebin.org/168097 [11:45] dont know what missing MODULE_LICENSE() means in line 13 with make command [11:45] thats seems to be only kindof error i get installing it [11:46] "see include/linux/module.h for more information" [11:47] there isnt a directory call linux in the include dir Zordrak [11:47] called* [11:47] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [11:48] sux2bu :) [11:48] lol [11:48] its in the linux source [11:49] just started to use slackware for 1 week, is it too late to learn linux in slackware? [11:49] /usr/src/linux/include/linux/module.h [11:49] ssixx: it just means the modules author didnt put any licence information in it (afaik) [11:49] bjx (~brendan@113-61-80-63.static.qld.dsl.net.au) joined ##slackware. [11:50] ssixx: not something that would affect an insert [11:50] did you look at the modprobe part of the pastebin Zordrak ? [11:50] Reaver1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [11:57] wertik_ (~wertik@95-24-176-109.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:58] nix_chix0r (~Hello@97-127-223-205.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [11:58] wertik_ (~wertik@95-24-176-109.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [12:00] yes indeed [12:00] my point being the MODULE_LICENSE() thing is irrelevant [12:00] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-217-107.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:01] just started to use slackware for 1 week, is it too late to learn linux in slackware? [12:01] so it looks like it compiled ok ? [12:01] the unknown symol errors would appear to be a problem with the code itself [12:01] perhaps its not written to be compatible with the kernel you are running? [12:01] datace: your question makes no sense [12:02] How to install "ctorrent" without compiling, editing scripts? the easiest way to installing? [12:02] datace: we've been through this. [12:02] datace: at GREAT length [12:02] datace: sbopkg -i ctorrent [12:03] do i need to sync first sbopkg? [12:03] yes [12:03] so: [12:03] sbopkg -r [12:03] sbopkg -i ctorrent [12:03] ill upgrade my kernel i think ...worth a try [12:03] ssixx: i would think downgrade [12:03] ok ty [12:03] really [12:04] ssixx: you should check the distributor for what kernels they supporlt [12:04] ok will do [12:04] ssixx: usually if there IS a compatibility problem its because you are using a newer kernel than is supported [12:04] it may not be the case here.. but too difficult to say without more specific knowledge [12:05] can i downgrade with slackpkg like use a kernel from 12.2 or below [12:05] =i wouldnt want to try it to be hanest [12:05] *honest [12:06] yeah get source [12:06] youll break everything else [12:06] honestly step one for me would be to find out exactly what is supported for the module youre trying to build [12:07] i should have choosen a better chipset :( [12:07] chosen * [12:07] thats affirm [12:08] just about the most important thing about running linux is picking the right hardware [12:08] i normally use atheros which is pretty much safe [12:08] *nod* [12:08] i like the intel wifi chips [12:09] yeah ive not tried them [12:09] i like mine with a little ranch [12:09] intel and networking is a match made in heaven [12:10] ill have to try an intel card [12:10] hmm. which package in -current would contain something like libdbus-qt-1.so* ? [12:11] dbus-qt* [12:11] dbus-qt3-0.70-i486-2 [12:12] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [12:13] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] i cant sync with sbopkg Rsync reported a timeout while waiting for data. [12:14] slackbuilds.org::slackbuilds/13.0 may under a heavy load. [12:14] Please try again later. [12:15] WFM [12:15] Richlv no idea what would have that in -current though [12:15] s/slackbuilds*13.0/your mum/ [12:16] mancha: my answer was from -current [12:16] how sure are you of that? [12:16] datace: you are probably behind a firewall that is blocking rsync [12:17] probably. [12:17] so i have to turn off the firewall? [12:17] datace: if you have control of it.. then allow outbound comms [12:17] Action: BP{k} wonders since when -current has qt3 stuff. :P [12:17] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:18] 2008 called, they want their -current back! :) [12:18] Zordrak, hmm, and where is that package located ? [12:18] mancha: HAHA :) [12:18] Richlv: it is not. [12:18] is it okay to reconfigure my pppoe-setup and set to no firewall, is it right way? [12:18] mancha, don't laugh, i'm still running kde3 on top of -current ;P [12:18] Richlv: unsupported. [12:19] ahh, found in 12.2 [12:19] ..... [12:19] mancha: good point [12:19] wow .. words fail me. [12:19] Zordrak, excellent, thanks [12:19] mancha: its a leftover from 12.2 [12:19] gaz (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:19] *nod* [12:20] l/dbus-qt3-0.70-i486-2.tgz: Removed. 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[12:27] morons running POS apps on windows [12:27] or temporary off [12:27] slackware has no firewall, per se [12:27] good, i hope now mcafee loses it's share [12:27] datace: if you didnt make one, it doesnt have one [12:27] then again, i hope it doesn't. it gets me more business [12:27] ahhww. [12:28] Reaver1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:29] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:31] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:31] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:32] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.27.111) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:37] Sushiyant (~soqrat@unaffiliated/sushiyant) joined ##slackware. [12:37] Sushiyant (soqrat@unaffiliated/sushiyant) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:37] i have compiled my own kernel 2.6.33.2 [12:38] however, i am using lvm, and that requires me to boot into a generic kernel [12:38] how can i compile a generic kernel ? [12:38] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.27.111) joined ##slackware. [12:38] dustybin: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/slackware-kernel-compile-guide/ [12:39] dam i was following this [12:39] http://muaythaimaster74.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-compile-slackware-kernel.html [12:39] thanks! [12:39] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left ##slackware. [12:40] dustybin: this one takes Pat's generic kernel as a template and then adds your own ata controller and filesystem driver to prevent the need for initrd [12:40] i need initrd otherwise lvm will not work [12:40] ? [12:40] http://www.unixwerk.eu/linux/slack/lvm2root.html#C03 [12:40] dustybin: so youre booting off lvm [12:41] yes [12:41] /boot is the only partition what is not lvm [12:41] then build an initrd with mkinitrd [12:41] yep will do [12:41] its time to clean up and start again [12:41] but hold on [12:42] ?! [12:42] i know you need initrd for a luks install.. but cant lvm be booted from kernel so long as its compiled in? [12:42] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:42] since it scans for vgs/lvs itself without needing configuration information.. [12:43] oscillator (~oscillato@81.35.198.140) joined ##slackware. [12:43] hi slackers [12:43] dustybin: im not 100% certain.. but im pretty sure all you need is LVM support in the kernel [12:43] trying to check up on that now [12:43] have any compiled htmldock in slackware64? [12:43] so the source is for 2.6.33.2-smp can be used for generic ? [12:44] LVM needs an initrd [12:44] ssixx: the linux source is the linux source [12:44] PiterPunk: thanks for clarification [12:44] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:44] certainly, you can have / on lvm as long as you have devicemapper drivers in kernel/initrd, and lvm tools in your initrd [12:44] Zordrak: np [12:44] PiterPunk: ahh yes.. its the tools isnt it [12:44] daft question really :( [12:44] s/PP/mancha/ [12:45] Zordrak: correct. The userspace does the vg/lv scans, activation, etc [12:45] dustybin: i still recommend that guide for your custom kernel.. but lvm still needs to go in initrd [12:46] dustybin: but youll get the same effective result using pats generic plus an initrd containing lvm, fs and ata controller (if not in generic) [12:47] ok thanks :D [12:47] padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.251) joined ##slackware. [12:49] i00nsu (~i00nsu@a213-22-116-122.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:50] hello ppl gm [12:51] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:52] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [12:52] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [12:53] is any browser with command line? I mean.. for e.g: lets say I am in /home/i00nsu/downloads/libs/perl and I am in some site like slackbuilds... (the browser is set to auto-download without asking) I would like it save files in same directory I am.. and if change directory save again.. like using links [12:54] but I cant change directory using links.. or I dont know how [12:56] isn't links default to download to pwd? [12:56] i00nsu:man lynks or man liks [12:56] if not, then alias links='links -download-dir $(pwd)' [12:56] i00nsu:man lynks or man links 'sorry' [12:57] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.27.111) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:58] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [12:59] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:00] I guess I express badly... ok I am in www.slackbuilds.org/13/libraries/libXXX abut after a made a mkdir libXXX && cd libXXX && links "webpage". || Now!, I want to change directory without quiting links ;) [13:02] after=before [13:03] im out. ttfn. [13:04] I want to install a copple of packs and I dont want to make this all the time: mkdir 1 && cd 1 && links www.website./packet1/ quit && cd .. && mkdir 2 && cd 2 && links website/packet2 && etc... [13:04] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: )(ã_â) ) [13:05] j0z (~SPH@201.47.30.242) joined ##slackware. [13:05] j0z (~SPH@201.47.30.242) left irc: Changing host [13:05] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [13:06] haqe19 (~root@host-137-205-27-085.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:06] haqe19 (~root@host-137-205-27-085.res.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:06] cant you do it once and cp packages onto a cd/dvd for when ever you reinstall ? ..it's what i do [13:07] it doesnt solve you problem with links though :( [13:07] everything to the same folder? :o I would like to make them organized [13:08] i00nsu: Want a 1 liner to build/install any package? [13:09] i00nsu: at least, any SBo package? Once you have unpacked the tarball from SBo: $ source .info && wget -c $DOWNLOAD && su -c '.SlackBuild' [13:10] SlackDwebber (~martinus@117.103.52.217) joined ##slackware. [13:10] i00nsu: You can use wget to get the tarball from SBo, and in theory could make an alias to make it all a single command - exercise for the reader. [13:10] excusme, any body here know where the channel for slacky.eu ? Are they have any official irc channel ? [13:10] :) [13:11] eviljames, links save files to the same directory it was executed. in my idea is change folder without exit links or other browser.. lynx if you want.. .. \\\\ eviljames, the problem of using wget is that dont GET the sources files of each slackbuild because slackbuild dont have it ;) [13:12] Kenjiro (~kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) joined ##slackware. [13:12] good afternoon [13:12] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [13:12] Reaver2 (Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left ##slackware. [13:12] ga [13:12] i00nsu: In the above one liner, it does get the source for the package. EVERY SlackBuild on SBo has a URI for where the sources are in the .info file and when you source that file the env variable DOWNLOAD is set. [13:12] guys/girls, do any of you use anything to analyse iptable logs? [13:13] something that helps generating reports, etc? [13:13] i00nsu: In some rare cases, there is also a separate DOWNLOAD_x86_64 where that is required. [13:14] Kenjiro: Something other than perl? *shudder* I hate perl.. [13:15] ahh ok.. you are talking about the SBo packages.. ;) .. before that.. [13:15] eviljames: sorry, I meant some application (be it a web application) that does that [13:15] like we have sargs for squid... [13:16] ok: see this page? http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/libgcal/ ok.. I want to mkdir libcal and inside of this folder download all sources to compile it and make the SBo source file. [13:16] i00nsu: yeah, generally speaking SBo is the 'right' place to get packages. [13:16] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:17] then change folder (whithout exiting links) and download all sources files [13:17] to the secound folder [13:17] etc... [13:17] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] i00nsu: This is a good example - get the .tar.gz for the SlackBuild from SBo. tar -xvf it, it creates a libgcal folder where some files are. cd libgcal && source libgcal.info && wget -c $DOWNLOAD && su -c 'sh ./libgcal.SlackBuild' [13:18] i00nsu: You could suspend links via ctrl-z and then fg it afterwards. links retains its working dir. [13:21] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:21] i00nsu: But really, it would be easier on you to: rsync rsync://rsync.slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.0/ [13:21] see .. first thing you did was (cd folder) but did you exit browser? [13:21] ZeTa (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [13:21] i00nsu: rsync -azPv in that case, rather. [13:22] Nick change: ZeTa -> StarX [13:22] i00nsu: That will get you ALL the SlackBuilds. If you only want certain ones, then rsync -azPv rsync://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.0/[category]/[package] . [13:22] i00nsu: but if you like adding software, might as well grab the tree, and run find on it when you want a certain package. [13:23] hmm [13:23] let me check [13:23] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:23] rsync is like cp on steroids. If you aren't familiar with it, it could be time :P [13:24] Kenjiro: not afaik, but that's not how I do log audit. I have it e-mailed to me. [13:25] hmm.. what dose exacly rsync? nothing change in the folder i execute the command [13:25] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: /quit [13:26] i00nsu: use this: $ mkdir SBo && cd SBo && rsync -azPv rsync://rsync.slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.0/ . [13:26] i00nsu: the trailing / and trailing . are important. [13:27] i00nsu: follow that up with man rsync, you'll thank me forever. [13:27] ;) [13:27] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] so let says I want to compile everything... how should i do ? [13:30] everything on SBo? o.O [13:31] _everything_ ? First things first, you figure out why you would want that, and then slap yourself for suggesting it :P [13:31] eviljames++ [13:31] not everything.. but yes, let say every sources I doownload [13:32] eviljames: ok, you have firewall logs emailed to you, then.......? [13:32] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:32] Kenjiro: Yep. Perl, sed, python, some scripting language can process the log files and e-mail them to you. Add it to cron. [13:33] eviljames: yes, I know. But then you (or in this case I) would have to come up with such scripts [13:33] sed isn't really the best choice there. [13:33] can you email from sed ? [13:33] right now i don't have much time to work on something like that. That's why I need something that is "ready" [13:33] xsamurai: Nah, but you could process your logs entirely using CLI tools. [13:34] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [13:34] I am taking a look at "iptablelog", although it is quite old [13:34] i rsync some libs to same folder.. I must (tar file, cd folder and source file.info and wget $DOWNLOAD etc...?) for each tar.gz file? [13:34] i00nsu: Yes. Before you do any of that, you should check the README file to make sure you are not missing any dependencies. [13:35] Kenjiro: I doubt formatting and emailing will be more then 5 lines [13:36] you can even do it all on the command line , in one big line [13:36] GooseYAr1 (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:37] Why my " sbopkg " cannot sync? :( [13:37] grazymax (~grazymax@host117-155-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:37] datace: usually the error or output (preferrably in pastebin if it is longer than 1 line) is more helpful than just asking. [13:37] darkdevil (~just@ns.ufop.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:38] i00nsu: Perhaps sbopkg would've been a better suggestion, if you're not looking to learn about manual dep. resolution and building from src. [13:38] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.23.205) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [13:39] eviljames - someone told me pastebin and give me a link he said to edit something... I could not remember wht site it was.. [13:39] datace: are you behind a firewall? rsync can have issues with firewalls. [13:39] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:40] im on freshly installed slackware i dont think it has firewall installed in default? [13:40] datace: pastebin.com [13:41] datace: I don't mean a firewall on your slack machine -- I mean are you behind any kind of oorporate firewall or proxy? [13:41] oh i was setting "pppoe-setup " and configured i set my firewall to 1 - standalone firewall . does this got to with my problem? [13:42] before going in circles i suggest you paste your error [13:42] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:43] sbopkg? [13:43] sync reported a timeout while waiting for data. [13:43] slackbuilds.org::slackbuilds/13.0 may under a heavy load. [13:43] Please try again later. [13:44] sbopkg simply calls rsync. try doing a manual rsync. based on previous reports I have received, I will bet it is some sort of firewall or proxy issue. [13:44] yes i00nsu i have problem with sbopkg, i cant sync [13:45] manual rsync? How? [13:45] v4nelle (~van@79.107.253.14) joined ##slackware. [13:47] dont know .. eviljames was talking me about it. : "" i00nsu: Perhaps sbopkg would've been a better suggestion, if you're not looking to learn about manual dep. resolution and building from src. "" [13:47] I dont know what is sbopkg ;) [13:48] datace: pls go to #sbopkg we can pick this up there [13:48] i00nsu: it's easily googlable [13:48] i00nsu: sbopkg.org [13:48] manual installation, like you extract and compile a file? [13:48] datace: no [13:48] like make and make install? [13:48] datace: #sbopkg [13:49] ah [13:49] datace: /join #sbopkg [13:49] excusme, what's different glib and glib2 ? [13:49] done [13:49] k [13:49] nice ;) thank you [13:50] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:50] SlackDwebber: not the same :-) [13:50] Camarade_Tux, helpful as ever! [13:50] comrad [13:52] jeev [13:54] Kyril (~Kyril@bas3-sherbrooke40-1242416304.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:54] maaaan, I'm really in need of some trans-dental electrolysis. [13:57] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:10] arent you supposed to use your phone for twitter [14:10] Urugami (~KB5YRZ@197.sub-97-26-23.myvzw.com) left irc: Excess Flood [14:10] or what if you cant stop licking your fingers [14:10] i've been trying to tell everyone telepathically [14:10] otherwise you'd need to have a computer with you to let people know you're on a plane [14:10] I'm on twitter for the same reason I'm on linkedin (and not facebook) and irc: work [14:10] Kaapa: chokoq is one of the best ones out there or so they say [14:10] xsamurai, KDE's choqok is a nice twitter client. [14:10] Drakevr, I wouldn't say best, but it is nice. [14:10] fire|bird: you missed my tag up above [14:11] I don't use kde [14:11] i only use email for work [14:11] xsamurai, whoops, sorry. :P [14:11] Skywise: since I use all of the above I get paid better ;) [14:11] i'd doubt it [14:11] twitter acknowledges the fact that the human race is doomed [14:12] all my comms are just serious [14:12] idiocracy is here [14:12] skywise and i exchange emails in hex [14:12] 0xdeadbeef [14:13] that says it all [14:13] ill use any kind of technology that promises pictures of tits [14:13] that drill rig that blew up in the gulf has sank [14:13] ah no kidding [14:14] 11 still missing [14:14] XGizzmo_ (~gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:15] mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) joined ##slackware. [14:15] i'm not against new tech, i just require it actually be useful [14:15] XGizzmo_ (~gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [14:15] i think i would have used twitter back when i was constantly chasing tail [14:16] now, you can actually calculate my status on your own with simple tools [14:16] i wouldn't have anything to say [14:16] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:16] if its after 4pm im at home being shat on by my children [14:16] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:16] lol [14:16] if its before 4, I am toiling in my cube [14:16] back when , girls had something in their heads [14:16] xsamurai: When was that? [14:16] earphones? [14:16] i've never used twatter.. it's redundant [14:17] man there are plenty of smart girls [14:17] theyre _crazy_ [14:17] hahahah touche. [14:19] its conference texting to an indiscriminate list of people who may or may not even know you [14:20] "hey look at how im doing way cooler shit than you" [14:21] + " i have no life" [14:21] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [14:21] NOTICE MEEEEEE [14:21] exactly [14:22] when people tell me they're looking for me on facebook, i tell 'em to keep lookin [14:22] ahah [14:22] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.226.16.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:22] haha [14:22] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.27.111) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:22] Skywise, why would anyone want to do that? [14:22] sick bastards [14:22] hell if i know [14:23] i like facebook for being able to trade links with my friends who are too pedestrian for irc [14:23] i give credit to mike judge though, he called the future better than anybody else [14:23] lol [14:23] since evidentally no person alive now can keep an email address for longer than about 6 months [14:23] i can always be found on irc, but i don't always answer [14:24] also i can see if my ex-gfs are porkers or not [14:24] i almost didn't get a cell phone because i like the idea of being unreachable sometimes [14:24] facebook is gay [14:24] thats actually a + , i do relish in seeing that [14:24] but then i realized, i could make calls from it if i wanted [14:25] i think registering for facebook automatically lowers your qualification to live by 10% [14:25] so i got a cell phone and didn't give out the number to anyone [14:25] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:25] whats wrong with being gay? [14:25] v4nelle (~van@79.107.253.14) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:26] being gay isn't bad, doing gay stuff is [14:26] no way man thats the fun part [14:26] wtf? [14:26] like skipping [14:26] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:26] Skywise: man i got a landline with fios, i dont even _know_ the number [14:27] and the fucker rings nonstop every evening unless i turn it off [14:27] GooseYArd, i bet you skip everywhere you go [14:27] my cell phone forwards to my landline so i don't have to call voicemail to check messages [14:27] id disconnect it but I know if I did one of my kids would get choked on my cell phone and die [14:27] lol [14:27] jeev: with my pinkies out [14:28] what? i dont even... [14:28] haha [14:28] GooseYArd, who'd let you put out children [14:28] jesebus [14:28] guax are you clutching your pearls [14:29] jeev: lots of alcohol [14:29] jeev: aren't you and Necos going out ? [14:29] someone's knickers are completely twisted [14:29] damn alcohol [14:29] xsamurai, no.. he just acts as my bidey or however you spell it [14:29] bidet [14:29] skywise, msg. [14:29] foshizzle [14:29] he keeps saying he's the man in the relationship but we all know better [14:30] can you do a /notice my client automatically ignores pms [14:30] xsamurai, stop betraying my trust [14:30] i usually presume that people who call things gay have never been employed [14:31] i been employed and i gots the name tag to prove it [14:31] since you get that memo along with your tax forms [14:31] GooseYArd, you're right.. i've never been employed by anyone other than myself [14:31] i remember i made a homosexual joke in an interview [14:31] it doesnt count if you're gay skywise [14:32] i remember laughing out loud [14:32] but ummm the CTO interviewing was gay [14:32] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:32] its a bad idea [14:32] the room was silent [14:32] xsamurai, were you applying for "gay dad 4 son" position ? [14:33] padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.251) left irc: Quit: going to bed, bye....... [14:33] nope "teach jeev how to ride seat-less bicycle" [14:33] what uses QScintilla? [14:33] actually it was a position in SM, for sys admin [14:33] Action: GooseYArd snickers [14:34] haqe19 (~root@host-137-205-27-085.res.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:36] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [14:37] is suspend to disk different from system to system? [14:40] i have so many servers i dont know which to use for 'development' [14:40] i don't see much documented on it [14:41] anyone use hibernate/suspend? [14:42] jery (~jery@116.68.82.27) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:43] SlackDwebber (~martinus@117.103.52.217) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:43] echelon: modern Desktop Environments make it easy to use suspend to RAM [14:44] i only run openbox [14:44] echelon: i use both, kde 4.4.. works well on most my hardware [14:44] And hibernating requires a bit of additional setup: adding a parameter in /etc/lilo.conf as well as creating an initrd with the "-h" parameter added [14:44] alienBOB, is that damn hardware out yet ? [14:44] Heh [14:44] echo "mem" > /sys/power/state [14:44] :D [14:44] Within the month jeev [14:45] some issues with display recovery after both on some hardware, and other device hangs.. but more recently seems better [14:46] i have this appended.. resume=/dev/cryptvg/swap to lilo.conf [14:46] currently [14:47] nee-chan (~Mantosky@82-171-26-177.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:47] echelon: you also have to create an initrd with "mkinitrd -h /dev/cryptvg/swap" [14:47] ok [14:47] Which will bring your system out of hibernation correctly [14:48] i forgot if i did that [14:48] i just followed README_CRYPT.TXT [14:48] Yes, that step is documented in the README_CRYPT.TXT [14:48] i think i did [14:48] so what do i do? [14:49] to use it, i mean [14:51] yeah, pretty sure i did as i have.. /boot/initrd-tree/resumedev which points to the swap [14:51] Basically, running echo -n disk > /sys/power/state in a terminal should start the hibernate [14:52] awesome, i'll try it now :) [14:52] hmm [14:53] hibernation scares me.. i dont know the diff between sleep and hibernation, i guess they're the same but i'd rather shut down [14:53] nothing's happening [14:53] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.181) joined ##slackware. [14:53] sleep suspends to ram instead of disk [14:53] ah [14:53] so the computer would still need to be running [14:54] just using low power consumption [14:54] d'oh.. i forgot the ">" [14:54] heh [14:54] Or read this echelon: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pm-utils#Add_sleep_modes_to_Openbox_menu [14:55] isfranc (~fran@thenewlan.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:55] do i need to do sudo if i'm already in the "power" group? 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[15:05] no, the c lib [15:07] i doubt it [15:07] It is part of Slackware [15:07] yeah most likely [15:07] i just double-checked, and i have gd installed... [15:07] slackpkg search libgd [15:08] It is, rest assured, part of Slackware [15:08] slackpkg search gd.h [15:08] i did msg the guys at info@slackware.it regarding the pkg browser, so far no reply [15:09] What do you guys use to play windows based games. like an emulator [15:10] datace: most ppl use wine [15:10] others vbox [15:10] i use a windows box [15:11] i have compiled my own kernel, when i try and boot it, it says no kernel modules found, my kernel modules exist in /lib/modules/.. [15:11] ok ty [15:11] Nick change: dErFz -> derfz [15:12] xsamurai: info@ is going to /dev/null most likely [15:12] The package browser resurrection depends on a guy who we have not seen for a while [15:12] ShKoDrAnI (~Ardit@95.107.196.109) joined ##slackware. [15:12] alienBOB: should i just start on my own ? [15:13] There is no one holding you xsamurai - it will just not be added to slackware.com if it is not coming from within. You can host it someplace else though [15:15] it's been defunct for a while now [15:15] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:16] i'd say a year + ? [15:16] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [15:16] works great! :) [15:16] thanks again alienBlurb [15:16] err.. alienBOB [15:17] only issue so far appears to be rebuilding of the tor circuits, but i can live with that [15:17] I am him too echelon ;-) [15:17] echelon: using the pm-hibernate I linked you to? [15:18] oh, i just echo'd to the power state [15:18] O good [15:18] Simple and elegant [15:18] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [15:19] i asked if i needed to do sudo pm-hibernate if i'm already in the "power" group [15:20] No idea actually. I'd say "just try" [15:21] kk :) [15:24] freedroid-jkwood (~jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:28] ok, i just added.. %power ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /usr/lib/pm-utils/bin/pm-action [15:28] to sudoers [15:30] What is the difference 64bit and x86-64 ? [15:31] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [15:31] How often are the logs of this channel updated? I need to refer to something from the last couple of days [15:32] used to be like < hour lag [15:32] FriedBob, I don't believe logs have been updated for a while, last time I checked, the last available log was 2.19.10 [15:32] hey phrags :) [15:33] fire|bird: hiya =) [15:33] fire|bird: That's what I am seeing too. [15:33] Nothing for March or April of 2010. :( [15:33] hmm, i'll raise it with unixfool [15:34] datace, 64bit just refers to 64bit registers in general, x86-64 refers to processors that use x86 instruction set (intel64, amd64, via64) [15:34] phrags: It is on wigglit.ath.cx where they should be, right? [15:34] The-Croupier (~The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [15:34] greetings hows things guys ;) [15:35] FriedBob, yeah, that's the right spot. [15:35] echelon ty [15:36] just installed slack, on a new laptop, but i cannot load x, for some reason on boot, i get a black screen, i chose various settings on lilo but seems to not load it...i remember there was a console option in lilo as well, but i cannot see it anywhere [15:36] freedroid-jkwood (~jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) joined ##slackware. [15:36] phrags, It was earlier this year, probably around the timeframe the logs stopped showing up, that unixfool was maybe going to adjust things so the stats were more current, maybe something happened wrt that and it quit logging. [15:36] is it changeroot or something to load the system from livecd? [15:36] phrag, ;) whazzup [15:36] I think unixfool got busy too [15:36] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [15:37] is there a way to load console from lilo, or it could be something else the problem? [15:38] compiling a new kernel with lvm support at boot is tricky stuff [15:38] FriedBob: yeh, we'll take a look and sort it out soon =) [15:39] The-Croupier: hi =) hows it going? [15:39] good bro not bad.... [15:39] phrags: I had to shut down my laptop, so it's not in my backscroll anymore, and I don't think this is set up to log locally. [15:39] just got myself to the us and a ;) and installed current on my coz pc...but i cannot get it to load for some reason ;) [15:39] fire|bird: thanks, noted =) [15:40] /var/log/messages/ seems clean :( [15:40] phrag, how about you ... [15:40] FriedBob: i have a long buffer/session.. what you need? [15:40] (no jokes please) =P [15:40] lol [15:40] is there a way to load from the disk...to a console even and then sort out the x? [15:40] The-Croupier: boot into console, or from X to console ? [15:41] i remember doing it back in the day ;) i thought alienBOB had a manual for that as well...i dont remember [15:41] phrags: THere was a conversation I had with Dominian the other night. I wanted to print it. If you search for "skin flute" (maybe w/o space?) you;ll find it. [15:41] The-Croupier: is your computer booting to runlevel 4 (graphical login)? [15:41] phrag, boot into any...i dont mind.... i cannot boot, it loads up to a point, after lilo that is ;) then i think it crashes in the loading the x [15:41] The-Croupier: "linux 3" at lilo promt, might be what you want. [15:41] zounds said what I was working up to [15:42] FriedBob: 4:43 today ? [15:42] alienBOB, could be that ;) [15:42] ill try.... [15:42] phrags: It was around midnight eastern I think [15:42] then i know what to look for ;) thanks ;) [15:42] phrag, ill see you guys soon ;) [15:42] The-Croupier: pass a init mode to lilo, like 1 or 3 [15:42] Lilo# Linux 3 [15:42] phrags, coolio ;) [15:42] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left ##slackware. [15:43] phrags, you gona be around laters ;) [15:43] He always is. Practically lives here [15:43] there is limited time these days that we get to talk ;) [15:43] FriedBob, i wouldnt expect less ;) [15:43] The-Croupier (The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:45] Nick change: derfz -> dErFz [15:45] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:46] FriedBob: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/6jRfEh29.html [15:46] phrags: Thank you. [15:47] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424064.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [15:47] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424064.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:48] man this acpi nocrs/use_crs stuff seems fraught with peril [15:49] FriedBob: you're welcome [15:50] what's this i hear, vlc gots a hole? [15:50] What version of vlc [15:51] through 1.0.5 [15:52] Ah yes. I am currently building 1.0.6 [15:53] As always, folks do not open content that originates from untrusted sources [15:54] The-Croupier (~The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [15:54] hey, nope, neither linux 1,2 or 3 worked for that matter.... i think there is something wrong with it...;) something else... [15:54] could it be another install maybe? [15:56] alienBOB: you get that ML post i just sent? [15:56] ssixx (~siss@212.183.140.3) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:56] hmmm....phrags, any ideas bro? [15:57] phrags: yep [15:57] The-Croupier: is linux the name of your lilo entry? [15:57] phrags, yes...its a fresh current install :( [15:58] The-Croupier: so select the lilo entry and put a 3 after it, or type single [15:59] phrags, i did, i tried... i did notice neavue something, in the last log before i got the black screen though... [16:00] im not sure exactly, i also noticed.... something like half of the screen went kind of green...like it was trying to load some graphics...and then just blank :( [16:00] The-Croupier: boot into single user mode, add nouvua (or whatever it's called) to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [16:00] the computer seems to be running though.... [16:00] ohh i see... you think it would be some kind of module crashing.... [16:00] nouveau [16:01] The-Croupier: yeh, nouveau is buggy as hell [16:01] phrags, single user would be linux 1, wouldnt it? that doesnt boot either... still the blank [16:01] don't know why it was included with a default slackware kernel [16:01] kannan (kannan@122.183.206.66) joined ##slackware. [16:01] The-Croupier: case sensitive? [16:01] isn't the default 'Linux' [16:01] phrags, i see.... i dont know yet...havent had the chance to boot that [16:02] phrags, yes it is ;) [16:02] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:02] no, what does lilo show when it starts up [16:02] phrags, Linux ;) [16:02] as always ;) [16:02] ok, so type# Linux single [16:03] i guess i could do it from the livecd im atm though ;) cant i? [16:03] ill try that ;) ...ill mount the hdd, and got to blacklist the module... then boot into single....lets see if that works [16:03] no, you only needed single to fix it [16:04] phrags, ok then...ill try ;) [16:04] init 1 = single user mode (like safe mode) [16:04] init 3 = multiuser mode [16:04] phrags, thanks [16:04] init 4 = X [16:04] np [16:04] phrags, yep ;) remember those ;) [16:04] The-Croupier (The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:06] hello, i am unable to get ny slack 12.1 box to browse on a public IP, the problem is the default gw cannot be seen as it is in a different IP series (i think). please help resolve , http://paste.ubuntu.com/420641/ [16:06] mcury (~mcury@189.24.29.245) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:07] waabimiigwan (~steven@106-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:07] rouet -n doesnt show the gw at all, neither can I add it using route add default gw command [16:08] kannan: you're using ubuntu ? [16:08] phrags ,. no [16:08] slack 12.1 [16:08] pastebin.ca didnt open [16:10] kannan: a default gateway must _always_ be in your local subnet [16:10] Your setup will never work [16:11] alienBOB , this is given by the ISP, and they showed it works fine on a windows machine fine, so i am stuck [16:11] is it possible to get the box to see the GW with some other route commands [16:12] kannan: what does "route add default gw ...>" return? [16:12] that configuration will not work [16:12] As I said [16:12] asamoah , 2 mins i will paste it [16:13] unless 206=200 (one is a typo) [16:13] Not even then [16:13] adamk (~user@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:14] With that netmask you only get 6 hosts, plus network & broadcast address [16:14] asamoah , it says SIOCADDRT : No such process [16:14] and didn't pay attention, my mind read 255.255.255.0 [16:14] mancha , not a typo , thats the thing [16:14] That literal "route add default gw ...>" did not make sense anyway [16:15] kanna, that config does not work, not in windows, not in o/x not in linux not in bsd [16:15] Amen [16:15] alienBOB , i tried route add -net 122.183.200.0 netmask 255.255.255.248 eth0 [16:15] then tried to add default gw [16:15] manch , i am using the self same config in a windoze right now to chat here [16:15] Your network address would be 122.183.206.64 ... not 122.183.206.0 [16:16] alienBOB , i will try [16:16] brb [16:17] kannan: then post "ipconfig /all" and "route /p print" for that Windows box to a pastebin [16:18] alienBOB , 2 mins pl [16:20] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [16:21] or as i like to say: pics or it didn't happen [16:22] hehe [16:23] http://pastebin.com/UuDSw3Dt [16:23] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-gxrxqhwcouwyccwf) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:23] what does 'smp' mean with regards to kernels [16:24] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:25] symmetric multi processing? [16:25] thats the output requested by alienBOB ... [16:25] are you sure you're not the 192.? [16:26] mancha , 100% , the ethernet cable coming strait from the modem , there is no NATing or router , as yet .. the 192.x is to reach the slack server [16:27] That is the weirdest setup [16:27] It must be doing some kind of bridging [16:28] FRSoldier (frsoldier@93.94.25.110) joined ##slackware. [16:28] it works fine on Cisco 1800 series router too, only now the router is broken , so i need to set up a proxy server asap [16:28] Hmm.... [16:28] Action: Alan_Hicks reads scrollback about this problem. [16:28] Alan_hicks, ty, you have really helped me out before many time [16:30] kannan: Let me get a little more info from you though. I'm assuming this is some sort of home DSL or cable internet connection? [16:30] its is a Internet Leased Line (ILL) coming thru a E-1 , v.35 modem [16:31] Gotcha. [16:31] what is used on the client (windows) side to conndct? [16:32] pptp or similar? [16:32] If it's an E1 there should be no ppp involved. [16:32] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-tycgfhlvhogbwymk) joined ##slackware. [16:33] kannan: I don't get why your windows box has two IP addresses assigned to the same interface. [16:33] Alan_hicks, it is to reach the slack box thru the eth1 of slack box [16:33] Ah! Gotcha. I assume you're on the Windows box now? [16:33] Alan_hicks, yes [16:34] This .66 address the one you want to assign to the Slackware box? [16:34] Alan_hicks, yes [16:35] Do you have any others available in that subnet to test with so you don't get disconnected? [16:35] Alan_hicks, no [16:35] Well that sucks. :^) [16:36] Alright, one or two more questions and I'll have something for you. :^) [16:36] Alan_hicks, great [16:36] does anybody oknow of a tool to find how long the longest line in a file is? [16:36] I'm assuming you've tried the following: ifconfig eth0 122.183.206.66 netmask 255.255.255.248; route add default gw 122.183.200.125 [16:37] Reticenti: wc -L [16:37] RTFM [16:37] if i create a initrd, is that independent to what kernel image will be loaded? [16:37] Alan_hicks, yes, but when i tried add the gw it says SIOCADDRT: no such process [16:37] kannan: Gotcha. I suspect the reason you're getting that is because the kernel does not have a route to that IP address. [16:38] Here's what you do: [16:38] First wait till he is done till you try any of it, so you can see it all. [16:38] ifconfig eth1 122.183.206.66 netmask 255.255.255.248; route add -host 122.183.200.125 dev eth1; route add default gw 122.183.200.125 [16:38] yes , ok [16:38] dustybin, no, version matters [16:38] for modules mostly [16:39] Basically, that adds a route for that one specific host, then uses that host as your default gateway. [16:39] dustybin: one initrd.gz can contain kernel modules for many kernel versions if you want [16:39] Granted, it's been a damn long time since I had to do that, so you may have to "man route" and check my syntax. [16:39] Alan_hicks, i will try and see, but if there is a IP conflict (with a slack box) the entire network goes down sometimes, dunno why , so if i get disconn, i brb [16:39] Alan_Hicks: looks OK [16:39] kannan: Alright. [16:40] kannan: If it still bitches about that, there's another trick we can try. [16:44] if i execute mkinitrd, i assume it will be configured for the kernel i have booted into [16:44] eviljames: heh, glib and glib2 are different libraries, that's the best answer one could give ;-) [16:45] dustybin, RTFM, it says [16:45] thrice`: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Mkinitrd [16:45] not much help.. [16:46] kannan (kannan@122.183.206.66) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:46] mkinitrd(8) on your system [16:46] man mkinitrd would be more helpful [16:46] this is better http://man-wiki.net/index.php/8:mkinitrd [16:46] ok [16:47] Do not read the man page for another distro's mkinitrd. Those will not apply to Slackware's [16:47] -k kernel version [16:47] well, well [16:47] Damn... [16:48] dustybin, the 'examples' section is good, and the document in /boot even better [16:49] ShKoDrAnI (~Ardit@95.107.196.109) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:50] oscillator (~oscillato@81.35.198.140) left irc: Quit: Zzz [16:54] FRSoldier (frsoldier@93.94.25.110) left irc: Quit: life is but a dream [16:59] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-tycgfhlvhogbwymk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:59] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.226.16.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:01] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-182.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:02] IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [17:03] Linux mythtv 2.6.33.2-wizbox #1 SMP Thu Apr 22 21:34:14 BST 2010 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [17:03] slackware with a brand spanking new stable kernel from kernel.org [17:03] Nick change: freedroid-jkwood -> jkwood [17:03] all system partitions are LVM [17:03] thanks for your help :D [17:03] martin_hex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:03] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Disconnected by services [17:03] Nick change: martin_hex -> martinhex [17:04] now i roughly know how to do it, im going to wipe my box clean and do it again, but this time make some nice notes :D [17:04] Action: dustybin makes a cup of tea [17:05] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.2.153) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:05] yeah, and post it somewhere [17:05] i will! [17:05] that it works, i'm going to format??? omg [17:05] all my notes go online eventually [17:05] i'm bad at writing notes =P [17:06] i usually write comments like #this does stuff & #gets that object over here to do that in my code [17:06] 3 months later i stare into space wondering why no comet has coming crashing down on me [17:06] /dev/mapper/wizbox--vg-usr on /usr type ext4 (rw) <-- nice :D [17:07] Action: dustybin feels excited [17:07] why the vg in the vg name ? [17:11] Hostname: mythtv - OS: Linux 2.6.33.2-wizbox/i686 - CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 (2793.533 MHz) - Processes: 79 - Uptime: 11m - Load Average: 0.00 - Memory Usage: 31.28MB/2025.68MB (1.54%) - Disk Usage: 4.54GB/5.69GB (79.76%) [17:14] kannan (kannan@122.183.206.66) joined ##slackware. [17:16] xsamurai: vg = volume group [17:16] dustybin: thanks dustybin =), but i just find it redundant to name a vg when you know its a vg [17:16] as in usr-lv or home-lv [17:17] matter of preference nothing wrong with it [17:17] Alan_hicks, i am back, the routing table now accepts the gw.. but still cannot ping the GW . the genmask of the routing table shows 255.255.255.255 for the Destination 122.183.200.125. If i did route add -host 122.183.200.125 netmask 255.255.255.248 dev eth0 , then it shows error " netmask 00000007 doesn't make sense with route host" [17:18] graffz (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [17:19] xsamurai (~jamonyou@69.43.199.101) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:19] xsamurai: I still name my volume groups vg_ as well. Old habits :) [17:20] it's self-documenting [17:21] Shadowkllr (~chatzilla@64.206.143.1) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Alan_hicks, you had earlier suggested some further steps? [17:22] my next mission is to compile the nvidia driver, think i will save that for tomorrow [17:22] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] *install [17:23] graffz` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [17:23] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:23] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [17:25] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.73.14) joined ##slackware. [17:25] graffz (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:25] kannan: should be "-net" instead "-host" if you want to specify that netmask [17:26] asamoah , ok will try [17:26] brb [17:26] kannan (kannan@122.183.206.66) left irc: [17:28] kannan (kannan@122.183.206.66) joined ##slackware. [17:29] asamoah , i still get " netmask doesn't match route address" [17:32] exit [17:32] usr13 (~terry@74.113.242.6) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:32] Shadowkllr (~chatzilla@64.206.143.1) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:33] kannan (kannan@122.183.206.66) left irc: Client Quit [17:33] "route add -net 122.183.200.120 netmask 255.255.255.248 dev eth0" .. netmask /29 for that host involves net addr .120 [17:35] Shadowkllr (~chatzilla@64.206.143.1) joined ##slackware. [17:35] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:36] martin_hex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[18:24] apparently texlive requires quite a bit of time to compile lol [18:28] OK, regarding the routing problem, the WAN IP as per the ISP support is given in http://pastebin.com/TbwQspZF [18:28] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:29] now there is no router , but i am able to use the LAN IPs on a Windows box, but not in slack 12.1 box [18:29] AEnima1577 (clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [18:30] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [18:30] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:30] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:30] i messed up my python install , if i try installing the python-2.6.2-i486-3.txt from the slackware13 mirror /d/ will that fix the installation or mess things further? [18:30] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:48] does anyone in here know where i can find some example code on how to use fortune with apache so whenever someone views my webpage, they see a fortune login quote in a box [18:50] AEnima1577, perl + a system call to fortune? [18:50] or php [18:51] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:51] that's not a bad idea - might have to pinch that idea [18:51] dive, are you saying that i cant code this in html? [18:51] doubtful [18:52] awwwwwwwwwww [18:52] you can't make system calls in html [18:52] i think i would prefer to learn php [18:52] anyway needs to be executed on the server, not the clients browser [18:52] which one would you choose to learn dive? [18:53] thats fine [18:53] I would use php, in fact I am about to do that [18:53] code that up? [18:53] if you hang around I will share the code with you [18:53] o hells yea [18:53] Ono-Sendai (~ono_senda@87.18.116.185) joined ##slackware. [18:53] let me send you a message on my recurrent account [18:53] hi.. [18:53] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [18:54] Ono-Sendai, is that not a bad ass idea? [18:55] in fact it would just be system('fortune'); between php tags [18:55] ping dive [18:56] http://guyism.com/2010/04/man-charged-after-wiping-his-ass-with-a-parking-ticket.html you dont even have to click, you could read the link [18:56] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:56] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:57] http://silmarill.org/files/fortune_bot.py [18:58] you think thatll help dive? [18:58] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] Ono-Sendai (~ono_senda@87.18.116.185) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:59] do i have the apache channel wrong, isnt it #ONLamp.com [19:00] not #ONLamp [19:01] huh? [19:01] TriniTuX_ (~chatzilla@cuscon129425.tstt.net.tt) joined ##slackware. [19:01] shouldnt there be a ircchannell relevant to apache and perl [19:01] lamp.... [19:02] there's #apache for apache items and #perl for perl items... [19:02] and goddamn it, my texlive compile blew up :( [19:03] TriniTuX (~chatzilla@cuscon123741.tstt.net.tt) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:03] Nick change: TriniTuX_ -> TriniTuX [19:03] I have a wifi card and ethernet cable plugged in, how do I make it so that all commands go thru wifi because the ethernet doesn't have internet access [19:03] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:03] s/commands/inet request/ [19:04] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] AEnima1577, put this in your html: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/YvWmna54.html [19:06] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [19:07] AEnima1577, actually this is better: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/nWQ8VC30.html [19:07] unused variable deleted [19:07] so i make a file with vim called index.php with one single line with "fortune" [19:08] AEnima1577, no, did you read that link? [19:08] its not sudo rm -y / [19:08] just put that somewhere in one of your html files [19:08] what? [19:09] do i need to make a new user [19:09] ? [19:09] to do what? [19:09] named fortune, or does that come preinstalled in slackware 12.2 [19:09] fortune is part of the bsd-games package [19:10] ?> [19:10] ? [19:10] AEnima1577, this is for a server running slackware? [19:13] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.32.132) left irc: Quit: I'll be back... [19:15] graffz` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:15] speaking of games, anyone played "xlander"? i cant seem to finish [19:15] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [19:16] graffz` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [19:16] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.142) joined ##slackware. [19:17] nope but this game of 'life' is dragging on... [19:17] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] 5 [19:18] LnxSlck (~LnxSlck@95.69.60.137) joined ##slackware. [19:19] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:20] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:21] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:22] are you useing any time of desktop environment dive? [19:22] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@fw01.cmbrmaks.akamai.com) joined ##slackware. [19:22] I don't understand that question [19:22] I use fluxbox as wm [19:22] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:23] if that's what you mean [19:23] anyway afk [19:24] afk? [19:25] away from keyboard... that is, he's not looking at the channel anymore [19:26] thanks Necos [19:27] Necos, how do you feel about the current state of copyright laws? [19:27] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [19:28] anybody [19:28] ? [19:28] Anyone else seen the error that a script wont run because of \r\n eol? it's basically a kernel bug in execve() ignoring the \r in the #! filename. when is shit gonna be fixed and not immaturely ignored? [19:28] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:29] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:30] SunTzu: what's it under on https://bugzilla.kernel.org/ ? [19:30] ...? [19:30] chking... [19:30] SunTzu, i've never seen that [19:31] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@fw01.cmbrmaks.akamai.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:31] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [19:31] http://BashCuresCancer.com/why-do-cgi-scripts-and-shell-scripts-fail-when-they-contain-carriage-returns.html [19:32] thats someones article [19:33] in two pieces; click the rest of the stor [19:33] story [19:33] he has a good narrative style too [19:33] ok, wtf... [19:33] it's not the same filename [19:34] yeah, but what i mean is.. your saying its a kernel bug and being immaturely ignored [19:34] but i don't even see it on the bugtracker [19:34] how the hell do i get text to be automatically copied from a terminal when selected? [19:34] fiyawerx yes, IMO [19:34] it's not a bug, it's how unix filenames work [19:34] i've been dealing with that bug for years [19:35] and i think it must be fixed; linux isnt static; let's fix some ancient bugs already [19:35] test.cgi is not the same as test\r\n.cgi [19:35] Action: fiyawerx nods [19:35] no, it would be test.cgi\r\n [19:35] the \r is ig'd so execve() gets test.cgi\r [19:35] which is clearly wrong [19:36] kannan (0@122.183.206.66) joined ##slackware. [19:36] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:36] kannan kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using IRC as root is dangerous. Please reference "Using IRC as root" via google for further information. [19:36] Lousy trolls often use confrontational terms like "immaturely ignored". They deserve to be ignored, immaturely or otherwise. [19:36] no, actually, that's correct parsing of a filename, AFAIK [19:36] that ban is another ancient fundy nonsense [19:37] Necos it's #! [cmd] [args] [eol] [19:37] the ban is ammusing, yeah [19:37] where [eol] is whitespace. [19:37] and \r is whitespace too so why ignore it if present? [19:37] would feel bad for someone if they could only log in as root and were trying to get some help [19:37] it's illogical to ignore it [19:37] but \r\n isn't the same as \r (one is windows, the other unix) [19:37] fiyawerx yea [19:38] fatalnix (~fatalnix@bb-205-209-93-211.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] actually, if they read the slackbook, the first step after an install is to create a non-root user account :P [19:38] Necos i dont care where a file came from; i care that this is a demonstrable bug in logic of the kernel function [19:38] then go before POSIX :P [19:39] Necos the kernel writers are supposed to chk for error conditions; this is one and extremely and ridiculously fixable [19:39] goddamn it, now i forgot what i opened up a new FF window for [19:39] necos: just saying, maybe there's a problem somewhere, if someone wants to be unsafe, who cares, its not like slackware disables root login [19:39] a few more bytes of code [19:39] big deal!!! [19:39] SunTzu: http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/fixing-unix-linux-filenames.html [19:39] trhodes i'm in console, what's he write/suggest? [19:40] trhodes if it's a shell level fix, then i know it and it's a waste of time when the issue is clearly in the kernel [19:40] it's a pretty good read / would be OK for links / he says that the naming semantics are indeed scary, but that's how it's going to be [19:40] bs and he's a coward for not telling Linus to fix the damn thing. [19:40] anyone on a laptop that has copy on select enabled for terminals in X? [19:40] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:40] there are systemtap tapsets to disallow those kinds of names, and binfmt_misc might honor other eols [19:41] trhodes more indirect work to avoid fixing the real problem? [19:41] it's not much of a problem [19:41] it's a REAL problem [19:41] it degrades interoperability. [19:42] and linux must be better than m# [19:42] this is more than an oversight [19:42] ok i'm done, later [19:42] >.> [19:43] Necos, yes [19:43] how'd ya do it dive? [19:43] tallship (~hammer@174.33.24.54) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:44] just select text, then middle click somewhere [19:44] kannan (1000@122.183.206.66) joined ##slackware. [19:44] I also run postallite too though [19:44] i don't have a middle mouse button [19:44] ah then you need to enable two button click in X [19:45] whatever it's called - memory kaput [19:45] then quickly click both buttons [19:45] i prefer using shift+ins, but apparently, that's a different buffer [19:45] hello Alan_hicks , alienBOB, asamoah , i have the slack browsing and am chatting from it :) , my solution was as per http://pastebin.com/iwgS9QK7 [19:46] thanks for the right directions [19:46] TriniTuX (~chatzilla@cuscon129425.tstt.net.tt) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539] [19:46] congrats kannan [19:46] Necos, that works too [19:46] i got squid proxy running and browsing is up in all the machines too [19:46] what's postallite? [19:46] a clipboard manage for X [19:47] since I use fluxbox it's handy [19:47] it's on sbo [19:47] will it help with the terminal stuff? [19:48] well it keeps a memory of clips, and saves the mouse selects to normal clipboard too if you want [19:48] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:48] Nick change: Plasmastar -> EarthStar [19:49] fatalnix (~fatalnix@bb-205-209-93-211.gwi.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:49] daemon? [19:51] fatalnix (~fatalnix@bb-205-209-93-211.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] i don't see it... [19:52] mr-S^b43 (~mr-S^b43@cc940512-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:52] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:52] Stars (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:52] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:53] now, the question, regarding IP conflict, if i conflict 2 windows PCs' IP addresses , then it merely shows as a conflict, but if i conflict with the slackware box's IP, then the whole LAN goes down, i have to power drain the switches before any machine will browse?? [19:53] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:54] what the hell are you doing kannan? why aren't you using dhcp? [19:55] Necos, lol, i am , now [19:55] dive... :P [19:55] just wanted to know how can an ip conflict bring the whole LAN down [19:56] Nick change: EarthStar -> Plasmastar [19:56] kannan: Didn't work huh? [19:56] Alan_hicks , :) [19:56] works great now :) [19:56] http://pastebin.com/iwgS9QK7 [19:56] thats my solutions [19:57] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:57] the router had aaa WAN IP configured first , and then the LAN IPs from the ISP worked, [19:57] kannan: So basically exactly what I told you to do worked. :^) [19:57] but in Windows the LAN IPs work straightaway, but not on Linux [19:58] not exactly , but i got the idea what to do .. [19:58] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [19:58] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [19:58] Ah! I see. s/dev eth1/eth1/ [19:59] i configured the WAN IP (which i had not mentioned at all to you) on eth0 , and then put the public IPs in eth1 added the -host and def GW to eth1 [19:59] But yeah, that was the problem, but my syntax was slightly off. [19:59] right, you had already told to re-check that syntax part [19:59] thanks again, you helped me some times before also [20:00] Hmm... you should have mentioned that WAN address earlier. I think there's a better way to do this. [20:00] the LAN is browsing thru a squid proxy server (i got eth0:1 with a LAN IP) [20:00] oh i like to hear the better way (tho i cant do it now ) (the bosses will kill me , lol [20:01] Andyr0ck (~Andyr0ck@82.132.136.151) joined ##slackware. [20:01] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:01] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: bu-bye! [20:02] of course, i may not be able to inbound SIP now , cuz the ETH1 is the one that connects to the internet , so i have to get that better way .. [20:02] kannan: 122.183.200.126 and 122.183.200.125 are both in 122.183.200.124/30. [20:03] chio_ (~chio@93.87.185.112) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:03] for some reason , i can dial thru eth1 outbound on Asterisk , but inbound comes only on eth0 [20:03] Which makes me wonder why you were trying to setup your default gateway on eth1. [20:03] If you unplugged eth0, would the box still be on the Internet? [20:04] Alan_hicks , ok... only when i did a route del defualt gw on eth0 and added the host and gw to eth1 , it was pinging the nameservers [20:04] Alan_hicks , not sure [20:04] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:04] i will try [20:04] ifconfig eth0 down is OK, or unplug the cable actually? [20:04] kannan: You might be able to find out with just traceroute. [20:05] Alan_hicks , ok [20:05] ifconfig eth0 down should be sufficient, but you may need to setup the connection again upon bringing it back up. [20:05] i am on the box actually , so NP [20:06] ok [20:08] raidzero (~paul@120-43.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:08] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:08] weird, when i did eth0 down , i couldnt ping , yahoo.com, but the IRC didnt get cut, neither did a download from a proxy client , when I upped eth0, it pings websites just fine [20:09] graffz`` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [20:09] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-114-174-121.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] without eth0, firefox wont browse [20:10] I would be willing to bet new connections would drop out as well. [20:10] If you unplugged the cable, I bet everything would drop. [20:10] i will try [20:11] Andyr0ck (Andyr0ck@82.132.136.151) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:12] i unplugged the cable [20:12] am i still here? [20:12] graffz` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:12] sadly yes :p [20:12] existential questions++ [20:12] lol [20:12] graffz1 (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [20:12] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.149) joined ##slackware. [20:12] you wireless? [20:13] lolol. whois any user didnt work when i unplugged the cable , but after i plug it back , its work OK [20:13] kannan: Hmm... strange. [20:13] i often belienve there are occult factors in Linux and networking [20:13] That just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. [20:14] graffz` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [20:14] fortunately, i dont know enough to be totally amazed [20:14] lol [20:14] Do do that voodoo that you ifconfig so well. [20:14] ah, the karma hypothesis [20:14] where the hell did dive run off to? [20:14] some times, you just have bad karma [20:14] Necos, er just over there -> [20:14] Necos, sup? [20:15] graffz`` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:15] raidzero, not wireless, cabled only [20:15] does your cat5e have serial no. 666? [20:15] i didn't find that program you were talking about dive [20:15] mancha , i rather like to think its a guardian angel, coz its working rather well now [20:16] does your browser always go to www.damien.net no matter what url you put in? [20:16] Necos, strange I could have sworn it was on SBo [20:16] ah PARCELlite! [20:16] oh geez... [20:16] you and your spelling errors :P [20:16] I always get the wrong name for it [20:16] yeah [20:17] it's a pretty daft name for it imo [20:17] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/desktop/parcellite/ [20:17] graffz1 (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:17] gonna wait for texlive to finish compiling before i get it [20:17] omfg... >.> [20:17] you may have a wait then [20:18] texlive compile? so what'll you do until it's done in 2012? [20:18] no, it looks like it's on the packaging stage now lol [20:18] tetex does it all, why go for bloat? [20:18] i just wanted to try it lol [20:18] curiousity [20:19] texlive killed the cat, knowdamean [20:19] this thing is huge, that's for sure [20:19] the emacs of tex? [20:20] heh, i use emacs >.> [20:20] interesting things to waste time on.

[20:20] SunTzy, I have the error you mentioned at 7:29 my time, still reading to catch up.... [20:20] the windows me of tex [20:20] Alan_hicks , how did ytou mean for me to use treaceroute to check which eth dev is used? [20:20] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:20] kannan: traceroute an IP and see which interface it goes out. [20:20] ok, wtf? [20:20] Sadnem (dimwit@anonymous-212-227-54-53.broker.freenet6.net) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [20:21] Necos: really? eww.. I don't think I can talk to you anymore :P [20:21] Necos: Hmmm? [20:21] dive: hahaha.. that's pretty awful then [20:21] parcellite didn't exit with any errors, but sbopkg is asking me if i want to continue [20:21] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:21] what is parcellite? [20:21] clipboard manager [20:21] Alan_Hicks, it doesnt say which interface ?? [20:21] clipboard manager for x [20:21] ah, ok [20:21] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:22] kannan: But it'll give you an IP. [20:22] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [20:22] dive's attempting to help me solve my "how do i copy on select in a terminal to the X buffer" problem [20:22] Alan_Hicks, it gives the one i assigned to eth1... [20:22] ok [20:22] Doesn't follow up with the IP for eth0 does it? [20:23] sbopkg is saying there's an error, but there's no error in the log... strange indeed [20:24] Necos: It might just be a weird script or source that exits non-0 when things are fine. [20:24] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:24] dive, can you try building it with sbopkg -b? [20:24] sure one sec I'm doing mplayer right now [20:25] tallship (~hammer@174.33.24.54) joined ##slackware. [20:25] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [20:26] oh wait... [20:26] Alan_Hicks, not sure , it gives out the GW , (which i assigned to eth1) , but no mention of any IP actually assigned [20:26] i wonder if this is another one of those -current breaks things slackbuilds [20:27] Necos did you browse freshmeat yet for a tool? [20:27] Necos, works with -b and -i [20:27] Necos, probably [20:27] http://www.osnews.com/images/comics/wtfm.jpg [20:27] kanna is your 7:44 pastebin, the solution to the problem, in that you need to use the loopback interface? [20:28] http://pastebin.com/hmsM5LfY is the output of a traceroute [20:28] or your 7:55 pastebin? [20:29] dive, it is... [20:29] well you know what to do [20:29] yeah, i already built it :) [20:30] wtf? [20:30] what just happened [20:30] AEnima1577, timewarp, shall we do it again? [20:30] i have no idea if someone build mylittle html box or if it is a bug that will unlikely be resolved [20:30] AEnima1577 - both are the same URL, and is the solution to my problem [20:31] so is there a solution to my problem, out there, i still need to go find it? [20:31] fatalnix_ (~fatalnix@bb-205-209-93-211.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] Hey [20:31] SunTzu, no, i had not... since this is my first slack install on a laptop in a long time, i got too used to using middle-click [20:31] Necos: left+right click at the same time [20:31] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:31] AEnima1577 - not aware what your issue , was , i kept getting disconn [20:32] Necos: are you trying to build parcelite on current with sbopkg? [20:32] ok, dive you around?> [20:32] AEnima1577, yes [20:32] Necos: however, when I plug a usb mouse into my laptop, I believe left+right stops working as middle when I unplug it until I reboot [20:32] chess, i already got it built :) [20:33] ok, the mouse scroll wheel doesnt work in X [20:33] Necos: nevermind, it's fixed. left+right click on a laptop pasted [20:33] slack 12.1 [20:33] *pastes [20:33] raela, that's a bit cumbersome on this laptop (with it's trackpad), so i was hoping i could get something so i can use shift+ins [20:33] ahhh [20:34] which works when copying from X apps, using ctrl+c [20:34] Necos: so it's working with sbopkg? was it a bash4/current issue? [20:34] chess, yeah, so i had to run the slackbuild manually [20:34] tallship (~hammer@174.33.24.54) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:34] hm [20:34] bye all, and thanks , i been doing overtime, it is 6.03 am here , gtg get some sleep , ty again [20:35] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:35] kannan (1000@122.183.206.66) left ##slackware. [20:35] AEnima1577, what problem are you having? [20:35] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] is dos2unix not in sbopkg [20:35] ? [20:35] dive pm? [20:35] try fromdos instead [20:35] no [20:36] lol [20:36] sbopkg -s dos [20:36] when i load the page i see [20:36] ... [20:36] you still trying to get fortune working? [20:37] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/HPTIFD36.html [20:37] yeah parcellite needs the || true added to the end of the second xargs strip [20:37] dive, yes [20:37] then it builds ok in sbopkg [20:37] raidzero (~paul@120-43.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:37] chess, yep [20:37] AEnima1577, got a link to the page? [20:37] hrmm passing || true sounds like cheating death, what error are you wishing to ignore? [20:37] hey dive... [20:38] yo [20:38] do you have parcellite on autostart for flux? [20:38] mancha, just add || true to the end of every line works magic ;-) [20:38] why not just remove the source of the error? [20:38] mancha, it's a bash4 thing [20:38] huh? [20:38] will fromdos work for a html file? [20:39] yes AEnima1577 [20:39] set -e will exit for a subthread [20:39] http://slackbuilds.org/faq/#bash4 [20:39] set -e tells it to stop executing on any error! :) [20:39] don't set it if you don't want it! [20:39] :P [20:39] Nick change: graffz` -> graffz [20:39] mancha, yeah but in bash3 it didn't exit if there was an error in a subthread [20:39] dive, so... :P [20:40] dive subshell you mean? [20:40] one of those too [20:40] :P [20:40] do you start parcellite in your xinitrc or whatnot? [20:40] so the parent shell doesn't quit on the child shell error [20:40] porn [20:40] AEnima1577, what is wrong with the html file? You shouldn't need to run anything on it. [20:40] err [20:40] and this was used in slackbuilds which then had unexpected effects in bash4 where it does kil the parent? [20:41] mancha, exactly [20:41] yeah I've had more than one email complaints telling me sbopkg is the suck because a script won't run [20:41] it makes sense to me now....the on-lazy way is to fix the errorsthough [20:41] sorry for the typos, my fingers are ahout 7.8 times as big a the keys on this handheld :) [20:41] mancha, that's what overeating does to yo [20:41] you [20:41] ;) [20:41] lol [20:42] i need to supersize my kb! :) [20:42] Action: Necos prods dive again [20:42] Necos, err? [20:42] so you built it and it's running [20:42] any luck with it? [20:42] i was going to add it to my xinitrc to see if it works [20:44] but you still may find emulate 3 button mouse useful [20:44] and that would mean a /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ file [20:44] is there no option settable in bash4 to segment subshells (as it was on bash3)? [20:45] brb [20:45] doubtful or someone would have spotted it a better workaround than that || true nonsense [20:47] hmmm [20:48] Necos, if you tick use primary selection and untick sync clipboards it ought to be good [20:48] hmmm... [20:49] where's that option at? [20:49] you *should* be able to select from terminal and paste with ctrl-v in x apps [20:49] Necos, right click - prefs [20:49] paissad__ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:49] paissad__ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:49] paissad (~paissad-s@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:49] paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:50] paissad__ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:50] what is causing the error in the subshell though, why not correct that? [20:50] Necos, actually, Tick sync clipboards for that (just testing) [20:51] that works :) [20:51] mancha, well for example the subshell that does a find and chmods files, if it doesn't 'find' a file it will exit 1 [20:51] how do I re-enable the KDE media manager? [20:52] dive, yes but the script is designed for the particular package so why make it find a file thatis not there? [20:52] Necos, shift-insert works too [20:52] yep [20:52] now, i'm wondering why selecting stuff in X apps isn't doing the same lol [20:53] mancha, most people just use the template as is I expect, only taking out major things [20:54] does strip generate an error if it can't strip anything from a binary? [20:55] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060080c81be882.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:55] dive *nod* [20:56] Necos, well that's the question [20:56] ok "|| true" is a clever workaround to get bash 3.x behavior then :) i like it [20:57] egrub (~lilo78@186.137.23.210) joined ##slackware. [20:57] Hello! [20:57] slackware kde 4.4.2 in current? [20:57] complete questions? [20:57] not sure actually... [20:58] there's always a language barrier... lol [20:58] egrub, at your own risk / not supported / might eat your PC: http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/kde-sc-4-4-2-for-slackware-including-policykit/ [20:58] mancha, it works for now, but I would prefer if there was a way of setting it in bash4 like 'set -e' does [20:58] oohhh... ok [20:59] 13.1 will use bash4, right? (since it's in current) [20:59] yep [20:59] what happens if yuou set -e in the parent and set +e in the child? [21:00] wonder if that little snag will be a showstopper? [21:00] i ask because i have no bash 4 to play on [21:00] fwiw, i think the way bash 4 deals with set -e is the better than bash 3's way [21:00] Nick change: paissad__ -> paissad [21:01] -the [21:01] thrice`: next develop build for slackware kde verion next? [21:01] egrub, only Pat knows :) [21:01] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:01] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:02] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [21:02] :) [21:02] i can't believe i left slackware and then came back a long ass time later and it is still as strong [21:02] it's quite annoying, that bash4 snag... [21:02] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:02] yeah righ tje [21:02] jeev, [21:03] i used it last in the late 90's [21:03] greetings and salutations [21:04] thrice`, why are you always against me [21:04] texmaker's doing the same thing, but the slackbuild looks like it's proper [21:05] errr, been updated for bash4 [21:05] hi andarius [21:06] heya andarius [21:07] salutations dive and Necos [21:08] dive, are you on current? (i'm guessing no) [21:08] Necos, I have 2 13.0 boxes and 1 current [21:08] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: )(ã_â) ) [21:08] which is off [21:08] poop :P [21:08] i was gonna ask if you can try to build texmaker [21:09] yeah I thought you might :P [21:09] lol [21:09] have yo tried kile? [21:09] kile? nope [21:09] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [21:09] kile > texmaker but's a bit heavier (qt) [21:10] What do you guys prefer to install if ur going to download torrent files? [21:10] hehe, i like the beta warning [21:10] i use ctorrent personally [21:10] datace, for cli rtorrent, gui qbittorrent or transmission [21:10] hmmm, it built when i ran the slackbuild manually, but not thru sbopkg [21:10] transmission also makes a good cli torrent client [21:11] my ctorrent always failed to connect to the tracker. [21:11] Action: andarius uses transmission on his headless erver [21:11] fatalnix_ (~fatalnix@bb-205-209-93-211.gwi.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:11] i'll install kile too though... this should be interesting [21:11] ktorrent, but wished there was a native utorrent client [21:11] utorrent is pretty nifty in windows... [21:11] fatalnix (~fatalnix@bb-205-209-93-211.gwi.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:11] i still use Vuze on my window boxen tho... [21:11] Necos, the main difference between kile and texmaker is that kile supports templates very well [21:12] texmaker doesn't support templates [21:12] and texmaker takes some tweaking to use in a non-KDE environment [21:13] i don't use KDE, but i do have it installed [21:14] I pretty much keep kde installed for kile and k3b [21:14] and konsole at times [21:16] kinda sad when you think about it tho :P [21:16] datace, please don't pm without asking first. [21:17] hmmm, this texmaker is weird... [21:18] ok [21:18] user2438 (~user45925@adsl-76-250-187-113.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] is transmission a gui program? [21:19] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:19] ok ty dive [21:20] i know it's tex -> dvi -> pdf, but i don't see any options to convert my tex to dvi [21:20] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.142) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:20] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.142) joined ##slackware. [21:20] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:24] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:24] dive, know of any good Tex tutorials? [21:24] eek [21:25] :P [21:25] the internets + looking at scripts [21:25] actually one good thing about LyX was it had a link to tex help files [21:25] selecting which of the following " KDE " and " XFCE " is personal preference only? yes or no? [21:26] i'm reading one called "A gentle introuduction to Tex", but i'm on page 16 and i couldn't do the examples (at least, not in texmaker or kile) [21:26] datace: yep [21:26] graffz` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [21:27] they both are saying that my tex document is not a root document or somesuch [21:27] er... [21:27] never had that before [21:28] maybe there's something i'm supposed to have at the top of the file? [21:28] zmisc (zmisc@pdpc/supporter/student/zmisc) joined ##slackware. [21:28] maybe [21:30] graffz (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:30] Is there available " gui firewall " that available in sbopkg and setup simple setting ? [21:32] maybe ufw. i think thats what ubuntu uses [21:34] like GUI transmission bittorent. I wont go back to ubuntu. [21:34] it seems to be only command line. but theres frontends [21:34] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [21:36] I want to put firewall on my slack that is simple to set-up. any suggestions please. respect u all slacker. [21:36] shorewall [21:37] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!0@* expired. [21:37] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:37] ty [21:37] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060080c81be882.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:39] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [21:40] oh, heh, i figured it out now :) [21:44] what you figure out Necos? [21:44] why it was complaining i didn't have a tex converter in $PATH [21:44] zmisc (zmisc@pdpc/supporter/student/zmisc) left irc: Quit: zmisc has no reason [21:44] it was because i didn't log out :) [21:48] pastebin? [21:49] are you refering to the problem dive and i were looking at? [21:49] nope [21:50] straterra - once shorewall is installed, does it runs automatically when you turn on the computer? [21:50] asamoah (~caio@190.244.52.205) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:51] if you add it to your config scripts [21:51] ah [21:52] straterra - how to run manually shorewall? [21:52] shorewall start [21:52] ty [21:57] graffz`` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [21:58] wonder if there's a #tex [21:58] graffz` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:59] graffz` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [22:00] LnxSlck (LnxSlck@95.69.60.137) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:00] What IP zones do put to my shorewall firewall... :) [22:00] huh? [22:01] i got error in compilling "shorewall start " Compiling... [22:01] Compiling /etc/shorewall/zones... [22:01] ERROR: No IP zones defined. [22:02] how about you go do some reading of documents? :) [22:02] we can't tell you how to do everything [22:02] ok [22:03] graffz`` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:03] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [22:05] http://www.shorewall.net/shorewall_quickstart_guide.htm [22:05] there ya go :) [22:06] i'm out... time to go home :) [22:06] adrenaline (~repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:06] Necos - ty very much [22:10] Gulug (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:10] Gulug (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:17] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:19] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [22:20] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:22] user2438 (~user45925@adsl-76-250-187-113.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:23] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [22:28] is it possible to have more than one volume group on a physical volume with lvm [22:28] coolkehon: no [22:28] thanks [22:29] coolkehon: each volume group requires one unique physical volume [22:30] is there something that will allow me to add and remove partions easily [22:30] nvm I just use extended partitions [22:30] *I'll [22:32] graffz`` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [22:34] dios_mio (mirc@88.236.183.56) joined ##slackware. [22:36] graffz` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:39] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:40] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [22:43] The-Croupier (~The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [22:44] greetings [22:45] is there no wicd for current? it looked like a nice software.... how come it doesnt come with default? [22:45] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [22:45] it never has come by default [22:45] It is still in /extra [22:46] graffz`` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:47] i know it isnt ;) i was asking how come ;) [22:47] ViN86 (ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-ONE-FIFTEEN.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [22:47] it's probably overkill for alot of people [22:48] hmmm, i was also looking for a wireless error message... sosctl something...i cannot reproduce it... can someone help? im googling atm...but i dont get anything...can anyone know? [22:48] thrice`, any ideas? [22:49] you're trying to reproduce an error that doesn't exist any longr? [22:49] neonflux_ (~neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [22:49] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.142) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:50] thrice`, lol, now that would be stupid wouldnt it ;) lol though ;) [22:50] nope it does exist.... but i cannot reboot my pc atm... when i reboot it will exist alright ;) [22:50] but i wont be able to get online anymore ;) [22:50] in dmesg ? [22:50] Slackware is a general purpose OS. Wicd being installed by default would go against that. [22:50] thrice`, im on livecd ;) [22:51] Hence, it's in /extra [22:51] rworkman, ;) [22:51] thrice`, meaning, i have rebooted ;) so dmesg has cleared ;) [22:51] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:51] rworkman, hmmm i dont think so....;) [22:52] The-Croupier: /var/log/messages will still have it [22:52] i believe it would be quite a lot of help with beginners ;) to use it more easily ;) [22:52] perhaps /var/log/messages ? [22:52] :o [22:52] tried that already guys ;) [22:52] omg [22:52] if it was in dmesg it will be there [22:52] sosctl something like that... hmmm [22:53] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:54] The-Croupier, ioctl [22:54] graffz (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [22:55] Uhm... [22:55] I've seen something like that before [22:55] Action: NaCl gets his lappy [22:55] hmmm could be...but it is something that doesnt let my wlan0 start ;) could be somthing like that [22:55] MS3FGX: it is an ioctl [22:56] but it's name starts with something else... [22:56] *its [22:56] SIOCSIFFLAGS or some such? [22:57] rworkman, yes that is the one [22:57] neonflux_^ (~neonflux@64.134.225.201) joined ##slackware. [22:57] ioctl is the mechanism that iwconfig uses to control the WLAN hardware. Most any iwconfig error is going to mention it, but it isn't enough to know what the error actually is [22:57] Yes, that [22:57] or SIOCGIFINDEX [22:57] it looks 99% like that... since im not sure if it is that exactly [22:57] neonflux_ (~neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:57] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:57] Nick change: neonflux_^ -> neonflux [22:57] I've seen that before too, and from memory, it's always meant that the interface wasn't configured properly (at the hardware level) [22:58] Especially the last one [22:58] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:58] e.g. no required firmware or some such [22:58] The first one I've seen at the head of wpa_s calls [22:58] hmmm.. so that means that it could be fixable right? [22:58] graffz` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [22:58] It could be anything [22:58] NaCl, thats what i used to start it first [22:58] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [22:58] but then i tried ifconfig wlan0 up and i got one of those :( [22:58] AEnima1577 (clbarnob@cpe-066-026-084-152.nc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [22:59] You need to find the whole error message. It is going to say something after the SIO part [23:00] graffz (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:00] The-Croupier: what was failing/ [23:00] the wireless ;) [23:01] ifconfig wlan0 up didnt work...gave me something like that ;) [23:01] i did find some stuff in the messages file...but im not sure if it has kept the whole day or just the last session ;) [23:01] that suggests firmware failure [23:01] ill grep some in there [23:02] i read online something about irq conflict of some kind :( [23:02] What's the hardware? [23:02] and having to get in bios or something [23:02] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-61.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:02] broadcom/intel cards need firmware [23:03] AlexElliott_ (~alex@client-82-31-6-216.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [23:03] AlexElliott (~alex@client-82-26-168-48.pete.adsl.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:04] Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX [23:04] NaCl, you seem to be right ;) its a broadcom [23:04] 100Base-TX on a wireless card? [23:05] NaCl, any safe places i would find such firmware? [23:05] The-Croupier: that may need proprietary drivers [23:05] The-Croupier: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=broadcom&sv=13.0 [23:05] lspci gave me these two Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g [23:05] You will need to use b43-fwcutter and then get the b43 firmware. Search SBo [23:06] thanks guys...im tired of this livecd i need my slackware back [23:07] rworkman, the legacy b43 driver right? [23:07] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.73.14) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:07] Kyril (~Kyril@bas3-sherbrooke40-1242416304.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:07] or the normal? [23:07] The-Croupier: i'd go for the STA driver [23:07] But that's just me [23:08] the stable ?! ok... why is that? [23:09] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: there are only a few things I cant stand, one is people who are lazy and stupid [23:09] The-Croupier: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php [23:09] I think [23:10] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:11] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:13] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:14] NaCl, thanks [23:14] nogagplz_ (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-253-91.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] The-Croupier: this too: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_BCM4312 [23:14] i think i found out, why i was having problems with my vga, earlier today ;) [23:15] there is an intel vga driver in extra :) [23:16] After installing slackware do we need to update it? [23:16] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: dormir [23:16] nogagplz (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-185-83.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:16] datace: yes [23:17] Nick change: nogagplz_ -> nogagplz [23:17] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:19] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:19] about radius server, when the client try to connect a popup with username and password will be avaliable to the user? [23:20] dios_mio (mirc@88.236.183.56) left irc: [23:20] diff. like wpa passwd box [23:22] thanks guys again ;) [23:22] briareus (~briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:22] briareus (~briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [23:22] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [23:22] i wish this works ;) ive put quiet a few hours in it :( [23:22] bb [23:23] The-Croupier (The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:23] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [23:27] graffz` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:31] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.201) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:32] How do you guys update slackware 13 after installing it? [23:33] crashdata (~crashdata@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] datace: uncomment proper line in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors then slackpkg updat then slackpkg upgrade-all [23:34] s/updat/update [23:34] You forgot a step [23:35] What exacly the syntax? [23:35] do you have a link? [23:36] datace: man slackpkg [23:37] brokedown: slackpkg install-new should always be run before upgrade-all [23:37] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:37] The slackpkg docs are good. [23:38] su slackpkg update? [23:38] niels_horn (~niels@189.106.32.132) joined ##slackware. [23:39] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:39] rworkman: are there new packages added to a stable release after a release? [23:39] not normally [23:39] mainly just patches [23:39] i need "slackpkg mirror" [23:39] that is why I don't run install-new [23:39] install-new is always a good idea [23:40] brokedown: not often, but there could be. The fiasco we had with the pidgin devs in 11.0 (?? I think ??) was because of people who upgraded pidgin but didn't install the new mozilla-nss package it required. [23:41] We don't like to put new pakcages in /patches, but in that case, there was no alternative. [23:41] You do not have any mirror selected in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors , Please edit that file and uncomment ONE mirror. Slackpkg only works with ONE mirror selected. What file am I going to edit? [23:42] ite tells you [23:42] in that message.... what file to edit [23:42] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [23:42] rworkman: thanks for the info, I remember whent that happend [23:43] sorry to mislead a newcomer with false info [23:43] j0z (~SPH@189.114.176.111.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:43] j0z (~SPH@189.114.176.111.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [23:43] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [23:45] No worries - it happens :) [23:47] How to edit this file and select one mirror? [23:48] heres an idea, use a text editor:) [23:48] yea [23:49] i just need " how to " edit the file. [23:49] which text to edit [23:50] are you using Slackware 13.0 32bit? [23:50] slackware x86_64 [23:51] open the file as root with a text editor and find the Slackware64 13.0 section [23:51] and uncomment a mirror entry [23:55] how to uncomment or edit this file? [23:55] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:55] CathyInBlue (~garrett@pool-71-114-174-121.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:55] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [23:55] remove the "#" sign? [23:56] you see the lines that start with # http or # ftp ? remove the # from one [23:56] ohh i see. [23:56] This can't end well. 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