[00:00] hi guys [00:00] not getting a joke is funny [00:00] Old_Fogie: so kdm tries to be too smart. [00:00] Old_Fogie: and in the process, fails to recognize that *no* shell != invalid shell [00:00] phunkedelik: i got the joke. it was still not helping [00:00] heh, gnome logs you in and the bug buddy yesll about screensaver [00:01] rworkman, however running gnome-terminal does work [00:01] OT I thought I recalled liking the taste of Red Stripe, but I was wrong. [00:01] hologram (n=hologram@ip68-228-57-91.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:01] Old_Fogie: cool; that confirms what I thought. :) [00:02] rworkman, xfce's terminal opens in gnome, but it's just black, with green box where i should see "oldfogie@...$" [00:02] rworkman, it's xfce then [00:02] Old_Fogie: yep, exactly the bug I'm talking about. [00:02] rworkman, for the record it's gnome 2.22.3 ; vte-0.17.4 [00:03] rworkman, so in theory, they can hop on ubuntu lts or debian lenny and confirm then [00:03] if they're averted to being a real man :) [00:03] rworkman, need anything else [00:03] They won't bother confirming further, I don't think - they know me :) [00:03] s/know/fear/ ? ;) [00:04] That'll do it; thanks :) [00:04] ok yw [00:04] BP{k}: nah, just "know" :) [00:04] sorry so slow here, I dont have one of them fancy boy pc's like you :) [00:04] BP{k}, wotchers! [00:05] mth- (i=1000@190-95-73-242.bk20-dsl.surnet.cl) left irc: "Leaving" [00:05] Old_Fogie: wotcha :) how goes? [00:05] rworkman, oh that was clean install, default user scripts added to home as part of adduser script [00:06] BP{k}, oh pretty good. Have some sick grandkiddies here. So I have my face mask on (in addition to the tin foil hat and x-ray goggles) :) [00:06] Old_Fogie: uhm ... correct me if I am wrong. Shouldn't you *not* try to scare the kids if they are already poorly? [00:06] I gotta have a talk with my kids, they keep dumping sick kids here too much lately :) [00:06] BP{k}, hahah soo true [00:07] elektr1k_ (n=saiya-ji@ip68-109-0-89.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:08] Old_Fogie: besides isn't that what grandparents are for? ;) [00:09] BP{k}, I suppose. But to play it "safe" I'm writing all these dates and times they do this to us over here; so when I get to the point that I'm drooling and pooping uncontrollably they don't throw me in the home. [00:09] I'm gonna get them back for this! :) [00:09] Old_Fogie: meh, by that time you probably wont care / know anyway ;) [00:09] lol [00:10] BP{k}, oh I'll remember. A few weeks back, the grandaughter made the bathroom, look like the one from "trainspotting". She's only 4 years old...good grief you should've seen it. Like I said, I'll get my kids back for this :) [00:11] This is weird. The "vte" sample terminal shipped with vte libs also has this problem. [00:11] Looking at vte.c though, it appears to have a fallback to /bin/sh written into it [00:11] rworkman, I wouldn't doubt that gnome-terminal does something somehow [00:11] Well, it *should* [00:11] to make it 'work' [00:12] roxterm, gnome-terminal, and sakura (all vte-based) work fine. [00:12] I'd suspect that gnome-terminal has some fallback in place, and xf doesnt [00:12] so it sounds like vte has the issue, but other terms have desinged failsafes in 'just in case' [00:13] Depends on how much of that "find the shell" code is part of the library [00:15] I never was good at them shell games, the man moving them always had too fast a hands for me, but I digress :) [00:15] Action: panzer laughs [00:20] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:20] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [00:25] Is that like playing "Hide the penis" ? [00:26] more like "find it" [00:27] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [00:27] speak for yourself "shorty" [00:28] :) [00:36] lol [00:37] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:40] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [00:41] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:43] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:43] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:43] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [00:46] mooglenorph, i have a cinelerra package [00:48] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:52] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:52] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. 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[01:06] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-13.dial.telus.net) left irc: "User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby" [01:06] Guest1740878011 (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:07] Guest1740878011 (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:08] nacl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [01:08] Nick change: nacl -> NaCl [01:09] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:09] Nick change: Guest1740878011 -> Gargantua [01:10] nobody ever has any technical issue's in here. It must mean that slackware runs really well [01:11] Pretty much. [01:13] pirving, it's what got me into slack, had a question had it answered moved on :) [01:21] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:22] have you guys ever tried debain. I hate it. their packages are all outdated [01:23] drmanhattan (n=er@189-47-244-247.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:25] http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Debian [01:26] haha. Debian is an ancient greek word meaning "I don't want to run Gentoo" [01:27] ubuntu is an african word meaning "Slackware is too hard for me" [01:27] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-148-207.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [01:28] my mac is dying :( [01:28] Guest1740878011 (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:28] edman007, what's it doing (not that I know anything about macs) [01:29] Old_Fogie, uhh, from what i can tell, the drive is keeping its data and not sharing it with the rest of the computer... [01:29] but i'm not really getting any errors [01:29] everything is just constantly hanging...like the drive is on vacation or something [01:30] oh man, that don't sound good [01:30] and i think my CD drive is dead too...because it keeps giving me back my CDs :( [01:30] i may just have to turn it into a desktop with my external drive :/ [01:31] how old is it? [01:31] 2 years [01:31] ouch [01:31] but its a laptop, and i think the last time if failed to sleep when it went in the laptop bag got it angry... [01:32] I had that happen to a laptop long ago, it was never the same afterwards [01:33] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [01:34] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.41.134) joined ##slackware. [01:34] hrr, it stayed powered up, inside an unventilated bag? [01:35] yea [01:35] laptops like that about as much as little kids do... [01:35] lol [01:35] lol [01:35] http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Solaris_(Operating_System) [01:35] lol [01:35] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:35] Nick change: Guest1740878011 -> Gargantua [01:37] drmanhattan (n=er@189-47-244-247.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [01:38] heh. KDE and XFCE also compile on recent versions of OpenSolaris, these are called Java Desktop System, and Java Desktop System, respectively. [01:38] i did that to my laptop [01:39] and it had two batteries installed [01:39] “Richard M. Stallman is not Unix.” [01:39] ~ Unix on Richard M. Stallman [01:39] gentoo vs. slackware [01:39] ran in a zip shut neoprene laptop sleeve for 6 hours [01:39] options [01:39] nullboy: ouch [01:40] I don't have the option of doing that to my laptop, I lost the damn batteries... all 3 of the ones I had :( [01:41] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:41] optinions [01:41] *opinions [01:41] no [01:41] that's just flamebait [01:42] actually I kinda like "optinions", I think you've coined a new word... [01:42] anyway you're in ##slackware, what do you really think the answer is going to be? [01:43] trolls are not welcome here. [01:43] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:43] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:44] sure you are entitled to your own opinions, but mostly people come here because they have chosen to use slackware. [01:46] Or something closely approaching it. [01:46] Oh wait, Averalappy runs Slackware. [01:46] Action: jkwood subsides [01:47] I do like that they do reverse builds, find ABI/api breakage as a result and report upstream. Too bad, in theory old pc's like mine may benfit from compiling for *just* them, but I dont have months to set aside to get a useful box. [01:47] Action: spook fires physics at jkwood, take that frozen eels! [01:47] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:48] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [01:52] Action: pirving is listening to phish [01:52] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Say good night to the bad guy." [01:54] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). 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[02:14] I've tried restarted nfsd as well with no luc [02:14] k [02:15] Nick change: Wescotte_ -> Wescotte [02:15] i have an seagate external usb disk and it got 2 partitions one ext3 and 1 vfat, the ext3 is only writeable by root and i want it as user also as the vfat is default [02:17] err what [02:17] try that last part again [02:19] Only thing I can think of is sometimes it obtains the same ip for wired/wireless.. could that trip up nfsd? [02:20] well it automounts the ext3 partition as rw for root but it's ro for user the vfat gets mounted rw for user [02:20] vfat doesnt have permissions [02:20] it doesnt get mounted ro for user [02:20] its mounted rw. [02:21] however its owned by root [02:21] with no write permissions for the user. [02:21] well i want the ext3 partition rw for user [02:22] do i have to write an own rule for that uuid? 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[02:29] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-186-2.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:29] ext3 doesn't forget about permissions when you take power away. [02:29] The drawback is that if you plug in that device on some other system where the uid's don't match up with yours, then someone else has write access on the device :) [02:29] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.61.116) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:30] jescis (n=jescis@adsl-217-158-154.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [02:31] rworkman thanks [02:32] np [02:38] nate_ (n=nate@c-75-73-2-229.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:44] nate_ (n=nate@c-75-73-2-229.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:44] arny (n=arny@79.119.156.229) joined ##slackware. [02:45] morning :) [02:46] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:46] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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[04:56] check the sums sorry [04:57] dude___: if you've got a md5 sums file, use the -c option to check the sums in that file against the real files [04:58] yeah i got alot of them [04:58] a lot? don't you have a simple md5 sums file containing the sums of every file you need to check? [04:59] s/simple/single/ [05:00] oh wait no sorry, nevermind, im overtired and not seeing things properly [05:00] er, what have you got, and what do you want to do with it? =) [05:02] dude___ (n=joe@222-152-11-30.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "Leaving" [05:14] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Connection timed out [05:14] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [05:14] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:14] Nick change: Ether_Man_ -> Ether_Man [05:14] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:27] Ebalayka (n=tony@92.127.20.249) joined ##slackware. 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Any way to change the way firefox names downloaded files where the filename already exists? [05:49] e.g. I download foo.zip, then do it again later, and I end up with foo(2).zip [05:49] hello world [05:49] rather have foo.zip.2 (like wget does) [05:50] slackware-jennie (n=tantillu@unaffiliated/slackware-jennie) joined ##slackware. [05:51] Urchlay: i don't know of any way, but i always make firefox ask me about the name and path, so i could change it there [05:52] renew_01 (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:53] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [05:54] rg3: yeah... that annoys me though. Particularly as the download directory has several thousand files in it, so the "save as" dialog takes a long time to draw [05:55] i like opera, downloads to a temp file even before you give it a filename or select a place to save it [05:56] FF seems to do the same thing... [05:56] or anyway if I click on a PDF, it asks me whether I want to "open or save this file", and while I'm making up my mind, it's downloading [05:57] i like that :) [05:57] yeah, it's nice [05:58] haven't used opera since opera 5.0, no idea what the new ones do [05:59] apparently newer opera versions have a torrent client built in, but I'm told it's terrible... [05:59] It's like when InternetExplorer once had a graphical-comic-IRC-client? :D [06:02] haha [06:02] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Connection timed out [06:02] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:02] I never used that, but it was gods-awful when someone else would try to use it [06:02] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:03] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Success [06:03] it'd put all manner of garbage into their text [06:03] Nick change: Ether_Man_ -> Ether_Man [06:03] Nick change: Ether_Man -> Ether_Man_ [06:03] It could look like this [06:03] http://tkgeisel.com/pics/mschat-sfrh.jpg [06:04] cute [06:04] :D [06:06] slKIvs (n=slKIvs@19.46.56.190.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) left irc: Client Quit [06:07] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [06:09] Nick change: giuppy_ -> giuppy [06:09] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.83.218) left irc: "Quit" [06:11] Hi, are there known problems with ati video drivers and -current ? I'm guessing xorg version too new, just want to know if it's known [06:11] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [06:12] I'm going to need some accomplices and a case of Crown Royal. We're going to burn down Verizon's central office. [06:12] Who's with me? [06:13] you tempt me, sir [06:14] I just got off the phone with a support tech who told me that the central office decided to cancel the house visit I scheduled (without informing me) because they tested my line and "found no problems" [06:14] *rage* [06:14] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [06:14] I woke up four hours before I normally do just to wait. [06:14] lemme guess... there still is some sort of problem [06:14] godling, That's up there with the excuses like "check is in the mail", "don't worry it's just a cold sore", and "No those pants don't make your butt look big" [06:15] Urchlay: there's been a problem for a long time [06:15] I'm just canceling the service Monday [06:15] Oh and this one, "Everything is working fine for me, I've never had any problems with Windows. The problem must be on your end." [06:16] :/ [06:16] What's the word on Time Warner cable? [06:16] It seemed alright in my sister's neck of the woods, but she's in Texas. [06:19] slackware-jennie: What's even more annoying is that I got redirected to different departments three times before I actually got through to a live human person (in Verizon phone support). [06:19] Then I told her that I needed DSL support, not phone support, and she connected me to DSL support. [06:19] but anyways [06:19] godling, Yay. [06:19] did the live person speak english? [06:19] godling, You mean actual *people* work there?! [06:19] actually, did you check its pulse? It might have been a zombie, not a live person... [06:20] Urchlay: Yes, she sounded like an older lady. Her name was Betty. [06:20] godling, -gasp- [06:20] I know! [06:20] Usually I get someone in Bangladesh or the Phillipines. [06:20] godling, They build people from spare parts and recycled COBOL programmers! [06:20] (which is who I was eventually transferred to) [06:21] slackware-jennie: frankenstein's monsters instead of zombies? [06:21] either way, you need a shotgun, and maybe a chainsaw instead of a hand... [06:21] Urchlay, If they were Zombies they would sound like gamers on HALO servers. [06:21] With voice masks. [06:22] braaainnnzzz [06:22] Urchlay, That's what XBox gamers need. :| [06:23] no matter how many live brains a zombie eats, they never get any smarter [06:23] which maybe applies to xboxers too, I dunno, never played... [06:23] ah, consoles aren't all that bad [06:23] *sometimes* [06:23] Urchlay, It does. In my opinion *many* gamers need brains because they waste away using Windows boxes and other Microsoft products for entertainment. [06:24] other than that whole locked hardware thing [06:24] godling, Bingo. [06:24] but it is nice to have something easy to setup in a pinch, for parties and whatnot [06:24] godling, I would rather use something that doesn't kill brain cells for a party. [06:24] um [06:24] ... maybe I need better social skills. :/ [06:25] Action: slackware-jennie envisions parties where board games are the entertainment. :( [06:25] parties are for killing brain cells [06:25] Nuh uh! [06:25] Action: godling points to crown royal, sailor jerry's [06:25] Parties are for sharing interests and connecting with people in ways that don't involve imbibing detrimental supplements! [06:26] And preferably the connecting doesn't result in accidental procreation. [06:27] Which is often the case when the guests get inebriated and inhibitions are neutralized for several hours. You wake up the next morning with a room that looks like Jonestown the morning after. [06:28] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [06:29] heh [06:29] Hello, world! [06:29] slackware-jennie: you must have been to some really good parties [06:29] Urchlay, Nope. I avoided them. [06:29] How do I update cmake? Do I need to remove previous version? [06:29] well I wouldn't have... [06:29] but nobody I know anymore throws such partis [06:29] parties [06:29] tntslack (n=will@adsl30-101.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:29] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:30] godling_ (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [06:30] Urchlay, Parties mean trouble when people under 21 are involved, and some idiot brings a keg of cheap lager. [06:30] Nick change: godling_ -> godling [06:30] eh? I wasn't talking about under-21s [06:30] maybe not even under-25s [06:30] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [06:30] why not under-25s? [06:30] cause I'm over 35... [06:30] Yay, someone with wisdom. [06:30] heh [06:31] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4F675.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:31] One who has likely touched Fortran at least once in his life. [06:31] I don't feel so wise... [06:31] I'm over 30 [06:31] no fortran. I did take a course in cobol once, but hated it [06:31] What's wrong with women under 25? :P [06:31] Urchlay, Good enough. [06:31] godling: in my case, they're trouble [06:31] godling, What are you saying?! [06:31] slackware-jennie: oink. [06:31] :) [06:32] godling, I don't use Snort. [06:32] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Client Quit [06:32] Urchlay: Sure, but trouble is fun! [06:32] yeah, I know [06:32] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:32] godling, Ah, the words which best illustrate the reasons I never went to parties. [06:32] as long as gutterpunks don't crash your party it should be fine [06:33] if they do, your walls are going to be broken [06:33] But ... "trouble is fun!"? [06:33] currently chasing this girl I think is about 22... no idea if she likes me or not, but she's perfect: smart, funny, cute.. [06:33] of course, you might not live in an area where they proliferate. [06:33] ...single... [06:33] Urchlay: you forgot crazy [06:34] or was that supposed to be understood? [06:34] well, I didnt think I needed to mention the crazy part [06:34] haha [06:34] Urchlay, When it's too good to be true it usually is. [06:34] natch [06:34] oh man [06:34] slackware-jennie: don't I know it... but I am not only a man of science, I am also a man of hope :) [06:34] I just found all my old DK [06:34] <3 [06:35] Action: Urchlay uses "Holiday in Cambodia" playing from a cron job as an alarm clock [06:35] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:35] I use an alarm clock as an alarm clock. It never works and I oversleep all the time. :( [06:36] dman things are never loud enough [06:36] Action: slackware-jennie uses Benny Benassi's Satisfaction mix as an alarm clock. [06:36] The heavy bass can rattle you out of bed! [06:36] Yay! [06:36] I remember wanting to wake somebody up who was passed out on my couch... [06:37] if you don't like the person, just tilt the couch up and let gravity do the work [06:37] I had this 2x15" bass cabinet, put one speaker right next to his head and blasted some obnoxious techno thru it [06:37] Urchlay, Did you do it Back to The Future style using a Walkman and rock music? [06:37] Action: fred remembers seeing that done with rammstein [06:37] "I am Zoltar from the planet Vulcan!" [06:37] godling: the guy weighed like 350lbs, no way could I lift the couch with him on it [06:37] haha [06:37] Urchlay: make it a group effort [06:37] slackware-jennie: I didn't, but I should have! [06:37] Worst alarm clock was my tea maid, woke me up like an express train coming through but then i just stay in bed drinking tea [06:38] the best alarm clock would be a girlfriend [06:38] godling: not really [06:38] godling, I wouldn't be a very good alarm clock. You'd be too tired to get up. [06:38] if she keeps waking me up before I'm ready, I'll get really annoyed with her [06:38] o_O [06:39] Plus I toss, turn, kick, and slap while I sleep. [06:39] well, you have to wake up properly to tell her to shut up [06:39] You'd end up on the floor by morning. [06:39] also I've been known to attack people who try to wake me up when I'm really deeply asleep [06:39] (like, not on purpose, I don't know I'm doing it) [06:39] Urchlay: I've accidentally punched people like that. [06:39] :) [06:39] I cant wake up no more, i used to jump out of bed now i hit snooze a few times before i can get up [06:39] well "accidentally" [06:40] I don't know if I actually meant it. [06:40] geoff_k: I just end up turning the damned thing off and go back to sleep. [06:40] which is something, because the clock is on my dresser which is five feet away [06:40] knew a guy who was ex-army, if you tried to wake him up he'd have a knife at your throat before you could jump out of the way [06:40] godling, i do that often too did it last monday after saying i would be somewhere [06:40] I once broke a broomstick over a boyfriend's head when I tried to get him up for work. [06:40] (yes, dude slept with a knife...) [06:41] Urchlay: My father was in the marines, similar. [06:41] He warned me a long time ago that the best way to get him up in the morning is to use a broomstick and poke him with it until he got up. [06:41] slackware-jennie: did it wake him up, or knock him further unconscious? [06:41] Urchlay, He never woke up attacking me again. [06:41] use smelling salts [06:41] :D [06:41] I need two hours in a morning and at least two cups of tea before i can deal with people [06:41] godling: or smelling socks [06:41] haha [06:41] geoff_k: same here, but s/tea/coffee/ [06:42] godling, I broke it over his head when he jumped up, scared the heck out of me, and I went *CRACK!* right over his head. [06:42] He wasn't too happy. [06:42] Irish coffee [06:42] But since then when I wake people up, I use a broomstick and poke at them. [06:42] godling: only if I don't have to work [06:42] I keep nudging until they get up. [06:42] Urchlay: it makes work interesting [06:43] Urchlay: definitely makes it easier to deal with the boss [06:43] heh. Try brushing your teeth with Bushmill's [06:43] (it *does* kill the bacteria in your mouth...) [06:44] Nick change: StevenR_ -> StevenR [06:44] it's been a long time since I had Bushmill's. [06:44] *Bushmills [06:45] yeah, last time I had it was possibly 2 years ago [06:45] Nowadays I stick to rum or bourbon [06:45] slackware-jennie: do you poke them with the broom end, or the handle end? [06:45] I miss scotch, though [06:46] been drinking vodka lately [06:46] It's just a broomstick, no broom on either end. [06:46] slackware-jennie: you could use one of those poles with a fork on the end, like you hang cable with [06:47] or a cattle prod [06:47] bzzzzt! [06:49] the only good thing about feeling like crap every morning is... I either never get hangovers, or else I don't notice [06:49] Meckafett (i=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) joined ##slackware. [06:50] eh? [06:50] Cant say i get hangovers that dont fade out with a mug of strong tea shortly after [06:50] My hangovers just make me feel brain dead for bit [06:50] the trick to not getting hangovers really is to drink lots of water before passing out [06:51] I drink a lot of tea day night before and after drinking so probably helps [06:51] 99% of a hangover is just dehydration [06:51] yeah [06:52] I find if you just start drinking again, the problem fixes itself. [06:53] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176064170.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [06:54] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [06:55] credo (n=name@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:57] augh, today's fortune: "Knowledge is power; knowledge shared is power lost" :( [06:58] "never laugh at live dragons" [07:00] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [07:01] credo (n=name@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. 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[07:30] Karu (n=alch@78-28-78-146.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:31] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-403728.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:35] kevin_ (n=kevin@fluffy.curranfamilynet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:40] DeeeP (i=0@bl4-166-193.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [07:47] arny (n=arny@79.119.156.229) left irc: "Leaving" [07:53] 29 is stable? [07:56] DeeeP (i=0@bl8-70-251.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:00] cuba (n=hrad___@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. [08:01] paissad (n=paissad@202.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:02] paissad (n=paissad@89.55.198-77.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [08:03] Ro8inB (i=0@c83-248-8-198.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [08:03] 28.7 is the last stable in my rss feed. [08:04] .29-rc5-git6 stable snapshot [08:05] Karu (n=alch@78-28-78-146.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [08:06] Nick change: qneo_ -> qneo [08:07] hey, if you have pseudoterminal pairs like it was in the BSD style: ptyp (master) and ttyp (slave), where in the unix98 the slave is /dev/pts/* and the master is what ?? [08:07] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [08:07] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:08] then in telnet connection the master is used by telnet and the slave (pts) is waiting with getty ? [08:08] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-116-247.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [08:08] do i need to change network conf files to use wicd ? or will it take them over ? [08:09] Karu: it uses dbus and commandline commands for controling network [08:10] so i leave network conf files alone ? [08:10] Karu: wicd has its own config files [08:11] ok thanks. i'll give wicd a try [08:11] Karu: if you have problems, #wicd is full of people who can help. most of them use slackware :) [08:13] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.1.250.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] i hope i don't have. [08:14] you might find it tricky setting up encryption [08:15] SpyKee (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:17] cuba (n=hrad___@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [08:17] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:19] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@121.246.70.42) joined ##slackware. [08:19] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [08:22] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [08:24] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:26] why my usb devices are unavailable in vb? (i am using close source) [08:27] vb? [08:27] virtualbox [08:29] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-338385.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:30] used ose? [08:31] on ose does not support usb [08:31] if you need usb, try kvm/qemu/vmware? [08:31] only on close source... i made all methods that i found in google... but nothing, i can see my devices but are unavailable [08:34] tntslack: you probably have more luck in #vbox, though developers are not in there on weekends [08:34] in same server? [08:34] slackware-jennie: i think the xbox360 is one of the products that microsoft got right (after they worked out the hardware quality control issues) [08:35] tntslack: on freenode, yes [08:35] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:35] pprkut thanks, will ask them [08:35] pi31415: no, they didn't. [08:36] so many things wrong with it [08:36] such as? [08:36] the harddrive [08:36] what's wrong with the hard drive? [08:36] its non-standard, not easily modable, easily stolen [08:37] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:37] the same is true of the storage on all other game consoles [08:37] original xbox was good [08:37] not including homebrew, etc. [08:37] goo dif you like FPS, but the 360 is starting to get Japanese RPG's =) [08:37] the ps3 doesnt try to make homebrew hard. especially running different operating systems [08:38] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [08:38] I remember the ps2 linux depended on proprietary bits, so you had to buy a Sony Linux kit. have things improved there for the PS3? [08:39] theres a menu option "install other os" [08:39] and ps2 could be modded to do whatever [08:40] 360 overheats like a bitch and has a powersupply as big as a wii [08:40] :D [08:40] though to be honest, if i wanted to run slackware, i'd run it on intel, not powerpc [08:41] ppc64 to be pedantic [08:42] i never had a problem with overheating, not even while playing mass effect in the hot summer months [08:42] put it on carpet [08:43] why would i go out of my way to do that? I may as well wrap my PC in a coat. [08:43] what market is the 360 aimed at? teenagers, people who just want to play it, and are used to putting their 64 or whatever where they wont without problems :P [08:44] spook: rich kids [08:44] 360 was out waaaay being wii and ps3 [08:44] before [08:46] godling: the poor kids go spend thousands of dollars on windows pc gaming hardware [08:47] spook: after a google search, i have to admit you have a point about overheating [08:47] pi31415: poor kids play commander keen :P [08:47] giuppy83 (n=giuppy@host215-160-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:47] and zork [08:47] i remember playing commander keen and zork [08:48] ha! [08:48] poor kid! [08:48] pi31415: the early models had problems with rrod [08:48] and cosmo [08:48] how was that government cheese?! [08:48] given enough heat, any 360 will rrod reliably [08:48] spook: that's what i meant when i said "now that they've fixed their hardware quality control issues" [08:49] giuppy83 (n=giuppy@host215-160-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [08:49] spook: microsoft made good when they extended the warranty to cover all 360's sold before they fixed it [08:49] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:49] yes but any thing after they "fixed" the issue will still rrod from excessive heat [08:50] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@121.246.70.42) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:50] what's rrod? [08:50] i guess i'm just lucky [08:50] red ring of death [08:50] oh [08:50] they didnt fix it so much as just push the margin for failure down to acceptable levels [08:50] that's when it doesn't boot or something? [08:50] my only 360 grievance is that they charge $100 for the wireless adapter. wireless should just be built in. [08:50] godling: yes [08:50] godling: on the front around the power button, are 4 quadrants of a circle, each is a multimode led [08:51] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.61.116) joined ##slackware. [08:51] normally when turned on, each light indicated a connected controller [08:51] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [08:51] since when does a usb wireless adapter cost $100? [08:51] at start up it does stuff, rrod is when you get 3/4 of a circle in red. and means the 360 is now fucked. [08:51] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:51] I remember some games on the original xbox made the cd drive go out of balance and the only way to fix it was to insert an audio cd [08:52] out of balance? [08:52] the original xbox had many different models, about 7 or 8 [08:52] the original xbox was manufactured long enough that they used 3 major manufacturers of cd drives [08:52] many had different dvd drives. [08:52] sorry, dvd [08:52] xbmc , <3 [08:53] I remember, a place I worked at had to deal with xbox hardware issues [08:53] 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6a, 1.6b [08:53] imho the problem with the original xbox was poor game selection, compared to the ps2 [08:53] I don't remember exactly what happened. [08:54] i'm googling right now [08:54] the 360 is cheaper than the ps3, it has better game selection than the ps3, better backward compatibility, and for me the hardware works, so that's why I said I thought Microsoft got it right [08:55] 360 is only cheaper and better game selection because it had 2 years lead on ps3 [08:55] of course the wi is selling like hot cakes.. [08:55] the wii is pretty much outselling the 360 and ps3 combined [08:55] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:56] firefox-2.0.0.20 == firefox-2.0.0.19? no changes? [08:56] which baffles me because nintendo games seem like annoying kiddy stuff [08:56] maxote: what? no [08:56] pi31415: they are aimed as much at gamers as non gamers [08:56] spook, what are the changes between .19 and .20? [08:56] pi31415: which is why they are selling [08:57] maxote: they exist, i dont know what they are. [08:57] it's like comic books versus novels [08:57] i did diff them and no src change exist [08:57] comic books are not completely without merit, but they just aren't the same as novels [08:57] maxote: ... [08:58] pi31415: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhunt_2 [08:58] ;P [08:58] maxote: http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox20.html#firefox2.0.0.20 [08:58] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc3-asht4-0-0-cust917.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:58] Of course, some people I know would probably buy that for their children. :) [08:59] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cca23.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:59] oh joy, another resident evil from the makers of grand theft auto [08:59] i checked that 2.0.0.20 = 2.0.0.19 except renaming the number versions. [09:00] pi31415: but you get to use the wii controller to simulate throat-cutting. [09:00] and stabbing [09:00] maxote: read the link instead of making half arsed guesses [09:01] pi31415: and what's wrong with resident evil? :P [09:02] godling: i think i'll have to admit defeat on the console gaming debate [09:02] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.226.120) joined ##slackware. [09:02] debate? [09:02] it is a matter of taste. some people like resident evil. i wasn't one of them. [09:03] godling: i was arguing that microsoft did a good job on the 360, and that the wii is for kids [09:03] godling: you counterargued that the 360 hardware sucks and that the wii has violent games [09:04] oh, no I was talking about the original xbox [09:04] I know virtually nothing of the 360 [09:05] but the wii is not just for kids [09:05] :) [09:05] harry potter is serious business. ;P [09:05] ugh [09:06] man those movies were torture to watch, i can only imagine the books [09:06] of course when i was a kid, fantasy movies consisted of conan the barbarian and jason of the argonauts [09:07] clash of the titans! [09:07] ffs #vbox channel is sleeping... [09:08] pi31415: so you're into high quality creature animation is what you're saying? ;) [09:08] if you need usb, try kvm/qemu/vmware? [09:08] godling: I'm not into creature animation.. i think it's corny.. but corny is better than retarded stuff like "charmed" or the harry potter movies [09:09] spook but in vb works too, the problem is i don't know how to fix it, and is free and easy and light... [09:09] i thought Lord of the Rings rocked.. it seems that fantasy movies are much more available now, and far beyond clash of the titans [09:10] tntslack: qemu and kvm are free, open source, and easy. light too. [09:10] i don't see how one could put charmed on the same level as harry potter movies [09:10] me neither [09:11] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:11] For one I don't want to sex anyone in the Harry Potter films. [09:11] ;P [09:12] bono (i=bono@118-160-169-172.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Connection timed out [09:12] Ok, maybe the lady who played Nymphadora Tonks. [09:13] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [09:13] snape kills dumbledoor, harry doesn't die. hermoine marries ron [09:14] ananke: lots of magic sparkles puffing from fingertips producing much awesomeness combined with lackadaisical acting [09:14] harry marries ginny [09:14] right? [09:14] godling: yes. [09:14] spook: what a pedo [09:14] godling: lol. [09:14] she's like 11 or something [09:15] the marrying bit is like 10 years in the future [09:15] oh right [09:15] ;P [09:15] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:15] its like, this is what happens in the future because i cant think of any other way to end the book [09:15] pi31415: dude, freaking gary oldman is an awesome actor [09:15] seriously like 3-4 page mention [09:16] spook: yeah, well she's writing for kids so it's alright. :) [09:16] allend (n=allend@121.214.113.177) joined ##slackware. [09:17] spook: I didn't know that, though, I only read part of one of the books. [09:17] I've seen all the films, though. [09:17] by this point most of the kids who started reading it are adults [09:18] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:18] Oh wait, I totally forgot about Helena Bonham Carter. [09:19] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:19] Mad_Dud (n=Mad_Dud@c108-226.icpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:20] (she's hot, too) [09:21] spook: has her writing style changed at all over the course of the book series? [09:23] gotta go [09:23] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "leaving" [09:30] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [09:30] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:33] Packetee1 (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:22] khider: Why no fetchmail ? [11:22] why not* [11:24] rosh__ (n=rosh@e176064170.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [11:25] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176064170.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [11:25] rosh__ (n=rosh@e176064170.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Client Quit [11:25] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:26] khider: from a pop3 mail server use mpop or getmail [11:28] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:30] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host81-153-236-141.range81-153.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [11:32] MegafEee (n=WMaker@unaffiliated/megaf) left irc: "Leaving" [11:34] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.1.250.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:38] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn199.91-127-103.t-com.sk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:42] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:42] MegafEee (n=WMaker@unaffiliated/megaf) joined ##slackware. [11:42] anyone care to recommend a dual or quad core laptop for slackware? [11:44] I'm going shopping, and I want to avoid lemons. [11:47] jumperboy: no no, buy on 486 dx2 66 :D [11:47] jumperboy: quadcore is more "fast" [11:48] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn38.91-127-231.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [11:48] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:49] my thinkpad t41p died, it was fast, but I'm never buying single core again [11:49] jumperboy: why? [11:50] because i have a dual quad core server and it smokes :) [11:50] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [11:50] but laptops can be fiddly, and the specs don't always indicate true performance [11:51] so, I'm just looking for any tips or recommendations [11:51] How would I configure getmail to download e-mails only received AFTER today? [11:51] I'd like a netbook, but not a single core [11:51] frnkp76 (n=frank@dhcp-077-250-129-239.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:53] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:53] greetings and saluttions [11:53] wotcha andarius :) [11:53] wotcha BP{k} :) [11:53] I'm in doubt about buy, dell mini9, hp mini note, assus eeepc, msi wind :( [11:54] gartt: what purpose? [11:54] i wonder if Lenovo will jump on the mini notebook bandwagon [11:54] they got ideapads [11:54] ah [11:56] i dont own a laptop, no need for one, if i needed one for work or school then i would have one, where i work a laptop would not last long before getting broken or very dirty [12:00] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:00] My daughter has a laptop, but, I don't. I'm happy with my Intel Core Duo desktop, 12.2 is nice and fast. [12:03] Nick change: renew_02 -> renew_01 [12:05] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:06] i wish my desktop was fast, it does not move an inch, just sits there beside the desk [12:06] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.46.53) joined ##slackware. [12:07] Action: andarius aids Pig_Pen's desktop in motion... straight to his house :o [12:08] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:08] bye bye desktop, you've been a good friend [12:10] Pig_Pin: LOL, good one:) [12:11] Pig_Pen [12:11] tntslack (n=will@adsl30-101.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:11] glad you liked the humor [12:12] Yeah, it caught me by surprise:) [12:13] edman007|work (n=edman007@ool-44c286d0.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [12:19] ShamwowVideoProf (n=VideoPro@c-24-12-193-200.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:24] jeopardy (n=chatzill@chello089076160214.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[12:38] Pig_Pen: not sure about that. i do know if you put a drill on the crank for a TA-312 field phone it works like a low power tazer [12:39] Pig_Pen, apparently those phones still work in the UK. [12:39] renew_01 (n=renew@adsl-68-127-175-85.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:39] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:40] still work on the existing phone systems? seems like those things died out in the 1930's or 40's [12:40] khider, in .procmailrc: MAILDIR=$HOME/.maildir [12:41] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [12:41] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:41] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:05] i've checked the SlackBuild and the KERNELPATH variable it passes seems correct [13:05] pprkut: ping ^^^ [13:05] pprkut: ping.., [13:06] heh [13:06] lol [13:06] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:06] ..delay.. [13:06] :P [13:06] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:06] /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build exists [13:06] ..please wait.. [13:06] ACK [13:07] "your call is very important to us .. a dedicated service rep will soon be able to help you" [13:07] that makes me feel oh so fuzzy :) [13:07] ..processing answer... [13:07] "please enter your three hunder and sixtyseven personal pin" [13:09] i'm still paying and waiting.. hello? [13:10] "please hold..." [13:10] sorry, skype call from my little sister [13:11] nouveau now needs xorg-server >= 1.5, it seems I'll be living with nvidia for some time =/ [13:11] so... [13:11] RaeGrepus (i=ESA2Vg@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:11] bughunter2: what kernel version? what nvidia version? [13:11] 2.6.28.7, hand compiled [13:11] nvidia 177.82 iirc, from Slackbuilds [13:11] won't work [13:11] neat [13:12] http://www.liwjatan.at/files/scripts/nvidia-kernel.tar.gz [13:12] is there any newer stable version? [13:12] or 180.29 [13:12] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.1.250.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] seems I'm not the only one annoyed with nvidia's driver :p [13:12] I should really push that update... [13:12] my feeling says: nvidia should go to hell [13:12] ;p [13:12] you must like to punish yourself with that bleeding edge software knowing somethings are not compatible with it yet [13:12] i am loving it [13:13] pprkut: should i modify the slackbuild to work with 180.29 ? [13:13] i guess so [13:13] bughunter2: no, don't do that [13:13] what's your suggestion? [13:14] bughunter2: if you can wait a bit, I can point you to an updated tarball [13:14] sure [13:14] or you could use the link I gave you ^^^ [13:14] but why can't i modify it myself? i guess you do the same thing as i would? [13:14] yeah but that's for 177.82 [13:14] right? [13:14] yes [13:14] Ether_Man (n=polx@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:14] meh @ 177.82 [13:14] with a patch for 2.6.28 [13:15] so what's the exact problem, some data structures changed? [13:15] so, you have 177.82 and that script is for 177.82. where's the problem? [13:15] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [13:15] the problem is 177.82's performance is lower afaik [13:15] bughunter2: new libraries and headers [13:16] i heard 180 will work better with e.g. compositing, 3d [13:16] pprkut: ah, deprecated interfaces? [13:16] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:16] bughunter2: no, vdpau [13:16] hold on [13:17] bughunter2: you familiar with git? [13:17] yes [13:17] i think so [13:17] bughunter2: http://github.com/pprkut/slackbuilds-beta/tree/master [13:18] i got there by using google a few mins ago too [13:18] heh [13:18] really? awesome [13:19] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:19] yep [13:19] so what do i do? fetch 'beta' ? [13:19] josemanuel (n=josemanu@59.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [13:20] nvidia scripts are in good/nvidia* [13:20] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:20] ah [13:20] you're going to commit there in a few mins? [13:20] good is sort of my pending for submitting to SBo pending [13:20] no, it's already there [13:20] k [13:21] i saw, just thought you may had to update something [13:21] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.168.180) joined ##slackware. [13:21] nope, not that I know of [13:22] okie, here goes [13:22] huh, [13:22] i downloaded 180.29-pkg1.run [13:22] it expects pkg0 [13:22] otoh I'm compiling ffmpeg and see --enable-vdpau :p [13:22] pprkut: perhaps you need to update it to pkg0? [13:23] pkg1 is pkg0 with precompiled kernel modules [13:23] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-27-197.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [13:23] if you have pkg1 just change it to pkg1 in the script [13:23] it works if i change pkg0 to pkg1 [13:23] yes [13:23] okie :) [13:24] hurray [13:28] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.192.228) joined ##slackware. [13:28] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:29] thanks pprkut [13:29] your welcome [13:30] bughunter2 (n=j@77.164.66.126) left ##slackware. [13:34] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@217.201.219.214) left irc: "Leaving" [13:35] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:53] first time something like that hasn't worked for me in slack [13:53] yes [13:53] hi [13:53] any ideas what it may mean when i run cfdisk and find that my drive is showing up as having 700MB even though it's a 40GB drive? also its read only [13:53] works here [13:54] ezrafree: sounds like you are looking at a CD instead of the HD. try specifying the right HD [13:54] hikarutilmitt (n=hikaru@24-155-119-143.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [13:54] aargh [13:54] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [13:54] "fdisk -l" ftw [13:54] info is an abomination. [13:54] andarius: thanks appreciate it [13:54] yw [13:54] dive: I am getting the weirdest error on that command .. info: dir: no such file or directory [13:55] hikarutilmitt (n=hikaru@24-155-119-143.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:55] rworkman: info and in the app or as in information? [13:55] mooglenorph (n=marco@173.9.7.10) left irc: "leaving" [13:55] duryodhan: [ -e /usr/info/dir ] || printf "/usr/info/dir does not exist. \n" [13:55] andarius: info as in gnu texinfo [13:55] personnaly i think information is sorta sexy :{ [13:55] ohh, i will agree there :) [13:55] mooglenorph (n=marco@173.9.7.10) joined ##slackware. [13:56] rworkman: yeah .. but why doesn't it exist .. can you look through your packages to tell me what installs that dir ? [13:56] duryodhan: reinstall texinfo package [13:56] as for why it's not there, no idea. [13:57] The info system is quite possibly the most horribly designed idea I've ever run across. [13:58] Okay, the square wheel might have been worse, but that's excusable - they didn't have a good example of a decent design yet. The texinfo people don't have that excuse - they had man pages already. [13:58] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [13:58] now it works :) [13:58] and rofl [13:59] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:59] Nick change: briareus_ -> briareus [13:59] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Connection reset by peer [13:59] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [13:59] I have never actully used info before [14:00] well there is a discussion going on in #bash .. and I was searching for a nice way to lits the 20 largest files in a dir tree [14:01] du -cks * | sort -rn | head -20? [14:01] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.168.180) left irc: "bbl" [14:02] umm are you sure that wouldn't print dirs ? [14:02] or similaer [14:02] ah right you don't want dirs [14:02] I don't think there is a way in du to force it to stick to files [14:02] yes that would print the largest dirs [14:02] atleast doesn't look like it .. [14:02] ergo the attemt at texinfo [14:03] s/mt/mpt [14:04] perl -MFile::Find -le 'find(sub{ push @r, [-s, $File::Find::name] if -f } ,"."); do { system qq[du -h "$_"] } for map $_->[1], grep {$count++ < 10} sort {$b->[0] <=> $a->[0]} @r;' [14:04] is what someone posted [14:04] but I am not really a fan of that [14:04] :) [14:04] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.168.180) joined ##slackware. [14:05] duryodhan: its perl, who would be :P [14:05] mtu (n=mbueker@dslb-088-071-030-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:06] slackware-jennie (n=tantillu@unaffiliated/slackware-jennie) left irc: "Leaving" [14:06] i'm about to set up my laptop with slack 12.2, and i'd like whole disk encryption. is there some tutorial on this? [14:06] mtu yeah [14:06] mtu: README.crypt or something in the dvd [14:06] at the root of the DVD [14:07] oh heh, that's easy enough [14:07] thanks for the hint [14:07] hint!!!? thats not a hint .. thats spoon feeding!! [14:07] :P [14:07] :D [14:09] Would be spoon feeding if you told him exactly what to do. Now you just helped him help him self ;) [14:09] come on, i'll read and follow it myself - i could be much more complicated ;) [14:11] KjellB: his question was "is there some tutorial on this?" not "how do I do this?" [14:11] :P [14:11] "find . -type f | du -cks * | sort -rn | head -21" [14:13] Hey guys, whenever I invoke getmail it downloads ALL my e-mails, even the ones I already have. Any way for it to download only the ones that it doesn't already have? [14:13] dive: first thought .. whatchya got against -exec ? [14:14] nothing [14:14] :) [14:15] dive: still you are wrong .. [14:15] still prints dirs [14:15] you hafta use exec.. [14:15] ... [14:18] Ro8inB (i=0@c83-248-8-198.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:20] find -type f -exec du | sort | head [14:21] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [14:21] I'm bored =/ [14:22] hmmm, UT should do the trick, see you :p [14:22] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-85-81.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [14:25] antoni (n=user@9.pool85-53-18.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [14:25] hi all [14:26] where is the development version of slackbook 3.0? [14:27] duryodhan, "find -type f -maxdepth 1 -exec du '{}' \; | sort -rn | head -21" [14:28] Anakin- (i=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [14:28] dive: omg ... ls --sort=size !! [14:28] that's too easy [14:28] a tree ... not a single dir [14:29] huh? [14:29] why the -maxdepth 1 ? [14:29] so it doesn't descend dirs [14:29] or do you wan tit to? [14:31] r00t_ (n=root@host254-252-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:31] hello there :) [14:31] what to do to set up gcc ? is installing the gcc-4.xxx package from the d/ dir enough ? [14:32] duryodhan, "find . -type f -maxdepth 1 -exec du -b '\''{}'\'' \; | sort -rn | head -21" [14:32] ./configure here fails checking the cpp sanity (in /lib/cpp), what can I do ? [14:33] du -b = bytes instead of blocks [14:33] duryodhan, crap too many '' in there [14:33] dive: yes .. I want it to .. find the biggest file in a dir tree [14:33] r00t_: You'll probably want most of d/ [14:33] so i should run installpkg * in the d/ dir ? [14:34] I'd use pkgtool, and deselect anything obvious. [14:34] khider: read the docu, you can set it to either avoid old emails or delete them [14:34] You're not likely to need distcc, or ruby. ;) [14:35] mtu (n=mbueker@dslb-088-071-030-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) left ##slackware. [14:35] duryodhan, then just "find . -type f -exec du -b '{}' \; | sort -rn | head -21" [14:35] jkwood: uhm... you're right :) [14:36] antoni (n=user@9.pool85-53-18.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:36] dive: I know ..long time back .. I am just amazed at your tenacity [14:36] Not that there's anything wrong with ruby, just that it has nothing whatsoever to do with c++. [14:36] :D [14:36] lol :> [14:36] now it works, but now i have to delete some packages... [14:36] duryodhan, I'm just a little bored right now and like finding stuff out like this [14:37] :D [14:37] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.46.53) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:37] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-85-81.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:38] mrselfpwn (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:38] now I'm going to run it on ~ and see what I find [14:40] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-177-30.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:41] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:42] anyone knows of a communication method that can replace e-mail [14:42] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.192.228) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:42] Skype? [14:42] I need like something more decentralized [14:42] Campfire? [14:43] im, voip, irc? [14:43] Oh, more decentralized. [14:43] Hmm... I'm thinking email is it. [14:43] and that doesnt need to be in realtime [14:43] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: Connection timed out [14:43] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.192.228) joined ##slackware. [14:44] in part I see email has a huge dependency in dns [14:44] so mean ip to ip? [14:44] something like more independent [14:44] r00t_ (n=root@host254-252-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [14:45] Nick change: Anakin- -> Anakin [14:46] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] it's a nice idea but one that I don't know that's been made yet [14:47] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.167) joined ##slackware. [14:47] cpunches (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:47] problem is the not realtime maybe, that would involve some sort of centralisation when a person's machine in unavailable [14:47] Nick change: cpunches -> dartmouth [14:48] has anyone had problems getting adesklets to work in fluxbox with 12.2? [14:48] the best solution that comes to my mind is maybe.. peer to peer [14:49] Peer to peer message passing == email. [14:49] dissociative, yeah but peer to peer (ip to ip as I mentioned earlier) will not support offline messages - aka they will need to be realtime [14:49] Well, when not done in realtime, anyway. [14:50] jkwood, email is not peer to peer? (or do I misunderstand?) [14:50] you log into a server for collecting [14:50] at least [14:51] yes [14:51] it is also passed around via server [14:51] and sending usually involves many servers on the pathway to recipient [14:51] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:51] Ah, true. [14:52] Let's see what my Networks book has to say about this... [14:52] dissociative, real time would not be feasable unless you had a server running to store messages when you are offline [14:52] And while I find it, what do you want to happen when the person you're trying to reach is offline? [14:52] now you could implement a private email server [14:52] or message server of some sort [14:53] use that as the destination server for people to send to, and then collect when you come online [14:53] and if you used the ip address you wouldn't need dns [14:54] but what if my ip is not static [14:55] but /still/ the internet works by hopping, so even with an ip the data will still be sent from node to node [14:56] dissociative, then a machine with a static ip running a server that people could message to would be needed, same as if you are offline [14:57] now you just need find/create a messaging utility that uses those features [14:58] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:59] that is still a dependency [14:59] static ip, storage servers.. [14:59] the same history that email really is [15:00] to me [15:00] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:01] dissociative, not really, since people will sending direct to that storage server, and not having messages hopping all over the net from smtp server to smtp server [15:02] although of course, like I said, the data packets still /will/ hop node to node [15:02] duryodhan (n=chatzill@122.167.192.228) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:03] so encryption would be good if that worries you [15:03] I have found this: http://www.epostmail.org/ [15:04] erk java [15:05] Each user contributes a small amount of storage and network bandwidth - ring [15:05] eww [15:05] so it's like if you are offline then your messages are kept on other users machines until you come back online [15:06] it seems at first glance anyway [15:06] Karu (n=alch@78-28-78-146.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left ##slackware. [15:06] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) joined ##slackware. [15:08] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [15:08] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [15:09] but it /is/ decentraised [15:10] How do I setup urlview for use with urxvt? [15:11] or I guess that I or someone can ingeniate a application that can use already existent p2p networks to deliver electronic messages [15:12] acting like some underground layer [15:12] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@AMontsouris-158-1-85-81.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [15:12] dissociative, yes like bittorrent perhaps [15:12] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [15:12] but then you would still need trackers [15:12] oh yes [15:13] that is why I dont trust bittorrent completely [15:13] this is one of the problems that people have been trying to solve for years - a totally trackerless p2p file sharing app [15:17] khider, which program are you trying to se urlview with? 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[15:29] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:29] is there anyway to install slackware from one CD-R (not dvd) ? and download the packages on the others? [15:29] Uh sure. [15:30] The first CD is the install CD. [15:30] Zosma, yea, I guess I should have read 'Slackware-HOWTO' before asking that :/ [15:30] Hehe. [15:34] saneseto (n=sanesto@modemcable127.214-56-74.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:34] slackpkg is your friend. [15:34] hi everybody [15:34] kjwood, will that be on the first ISO? [15:34] *jkwood [15:34] Yep, it's in ap/ [15:34] i would like to install this card http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia_AVerTV_Hybrid_Express_Slim_HC81R [15:35] but when i enter into the slot and do-> dmesg | tail <- i got nothing similar to vendor, id .... [15:35] hey guys, quick question.i got slack and i want to know something : where is the log files that saves what is typed in the terminal saved in unix ? (commands typed, sudos typed...etc) [15:35] and i don't know which module to load if needed ! can someone help me to begin please [15:35] i use kernel 2.6.28 [15:35] saneseto: It's history. [15:35] where is it located ? [15:35] jk@me: history | less [15:36] oh [15:36] The file is ~/.bash_history usually init? [15:36] but if i wantedd to delete the previous logs, which files would i open ? [15:36] there is bash history but that's not what i'm looking for [15:36] I thought history was from readline? [15:36] Ah okay then I said nothing. [15:37] Hmm... I got nothing. [15:37] well in fact [15:37] lspci | grep -iv intel <---------- does not return me something related to a tv card [15:37] when u open terminal, and press up, you get the previous messages you wrote [15:37] how can i clear that ? [15:37] lspcmcia does not return anything too [15:38] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.167) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:38] what kind of interface is that [15:38] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008254164.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:38] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn38.91-127-231.t-com.sk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:39] saneseto: thats bash history [15:39] saneseto: That's your bash history. [15:39] jkwood: beat you to it :D [15:39] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/rnr/1045745018.html lmao! [15:39] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=clear+bash+history [15:39] but i erased the contents in my bash history file and the terminal still has the previous commands memorized when i press up [15:39] do you think i should reboot my machine for it to be erased [15:40] saneseto: just do rm -rf ~/.bash_history and its gone [15:40] dissociative, it's an express card interface [15:40] history -c [15:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-68-56-141-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] have you tried another express card before? [15:41] no [15:41] and did it work? [15:41] ananke: ping! [15:42] i've never tried an express card on linux, just on windows [15:42] and it worked [15:42] or you still dont have loaded the modules for that interface [15:42] saneseto (n=sanesto@modemcable127.214-56-74.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [15:42] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:42] that's the question i asked [15:42] which modules to load ? [15:43] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.158.122.188) left irc: "leaving" [15:43] I dont have idea yet, look at the kernel source documentation [15:44] is there any command or option command to use in order to get all the possible module available ? [15:47] paissad: and lsusb doesnt show it? [15:47] dissociative, no [15:47] but it's not an usb device [15:49] dissociative, one question, in order to have at least something returned by "dmesg", must the related module loaded first ? [15:49] yes [15:50] anyone know what this means? http://pastebin.com/m4bd11ae0 [15:52] paissad: does lspci -vvv does say anything about express card or some other interface [15:52] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:53] no [15:54] reallove (n=dan@unaffiliated/reallove) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [15:54] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [15:55] I'm reading that an expresscard peripheral can act as usb or pci-express [15:56] paissad: http://tuxmobil.org/expresscard_linux.html [15:56] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [15:56] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:57] paissad: perhaps this url is usefull for you, the linux part is at the bottom; http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-August/027648.html [15:57] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.88.183) joined ##slackware. [15:58] dissociative, Meckafett ok i check it [15:59] Anakin (i=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [15:59] reallove (n=dan@unaffiliated/reallove) joined ##slackware. [16:01] dissociative, with the link you gave me, does it mean that not all expresscard slot are supported by linux ? [16:01] damn [16:03] i cant compile slackbuilds with user rights, is that normal? [16:03] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:04] hey gang :-) [16:04] Hey macavity. [16:04] Zamm (n=Jared@75-175-100-166.ptld.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:04] does anyone here use PlayOnLinux? I can't get it to launch. [16:05] paissad: do you have the module that the page says [16:05] *loaded [16:06] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:06] SpyKee (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] credo: yes [16:08] RaeGrepus (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] credo: you can do everything with non root privileges except changing the ownership of files and packaging stage [16:08] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] smeding_ (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:09] pi31415: hmm, http://www.slackbuilds.org/faq/#root seems to say the same. im calm now ;p [16:10] spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:10] SpyKee (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [16:11] I just group the two commands that need root privileges in a single line [16:11] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:11] The preferred method is to be root when you run the SlackBuild. [16:11] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [16:11] and then run the Slackbuild as regular user and do the stuff that need root privileges with sudo [16:12] For the whole thing. [16:12] I love the "if you don't trust us, then leave" comment [16:12] jkwood: I do it my own way without any problem [16:12] josemanuel (n=josemanu@59.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:13] it reminds me of the puppy linux "who cares, it's a live cd" philosophy. totally ignoring what your machine may have done over the network while it was owned. [16:15] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:15] almost all my SlackBuilds end with: sudo sh -c 'cd $PKG; chown -R root:root . && /sbin/makepkg -l y -c n $OUPUT/$PGRNAM-$VERSION-$ARCH-$BUILD-$TAG' [16:15] etc [16:17] is there any good speech-synth software with a slackbuild? [16:17] flite is good. [16:17] dartmouth (n=cpunches@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [16:18] I think that flite has a dependency hell almost [16:18] Not that I noticed. [16:18] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [16:18] It doesn't have ANY dependencies. [16:18] Just to be safe while freenode upgrades it's services... [16:19] Good man. [16:19] /deop alienBOB [16:19] :( [16:20] mooglenorph, festival? [16:20] Or flite. [16:20] festival, on the other hand, does have a dependency hell. [16:21] ah [16:21] sweet, thios is great [16:21] just build flite [16:21] s/build/built [16:21] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. 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[16:32] holy shit kde4.2 is sexy [16:32] windowmaker ftw [16:33] I'm trying to find voices already built for flite... can I do that without entering festival hell? [16:33] That, I don't know. [16:33] also, can I use the included binary or am I going to need to write a little bir of C to switch the voice? [16:33] fun times. [16:34] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:35] dude__: is it fair to say that they imitate the look and feel of windows vista? [16:37] No I think not [16:37] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [16:39] Not at all. [16:39] I think that KDE 4.2 looks even better than Vista. [16:39] the Vista look is terrible. [16:39] A fair comparison might be Windows 7. [16:39] Action: StevenR still quite likes KDE 3.5.x for looks [16:40] tbh, X windows is a handy way of showing firefox and a terminal at the same time :) [16:40] isn't the look customizible? [16:40] everything looks better than vista [16:40] Action: jkwood waits for someone to suggest that KDE 4 imitates Windows 7 [16:40] Off to install 12.2. Hopefully I'll be back soon. [16:40] one might argue that Microsoft used KDE's looks when building Vista and Vista SP2(Windows 7) [16:40] Zamm: Yes, it is. [16:40] I like the default a LOT, though. [16:40] i will stick with windowmaker [16:40] does X autoconfigures itself for using dual monitor ? [16:40] samychow (n=chode@24.238.42.70.res-cmts.tv13.ptd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:41] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [16:41] DeeeP: it clones the desktop by default [16:41] pi31415 im not sure, ive never used vista, but im loving kde4 [16:41] hmm ok [16:42] Vista has most of the best elements from KDE 4.2, plus annoying things. [16:42] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [16:42] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-202-6.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: "BitchX: roqz yer nutz!" [16:43] can one replace the window manager? in vista? [16:43] I have no idea [16:43] I donno, I might consider trying it if I could use a tiling wm [16:44] You can run KDE 4 on Vista. [16:44] you can? [16:44] eh [16:44] wee [16:44] http://web.pdx.edu/~lazan/slackWM.jpg [16:44] lol who gives a shit about vista [16:44] am i the only one who thinks kde 4.2 is a huge piece of crap? because i installed it yesterday for the first time and all i can see are bugs and user-unfriendly changes [16:44] Pretty sure. [16:45] josemanuel if you look you will find, if you just chillax and enjoy the ride you will enjoy [16:45] josemanuel: You're not the only one, though everyone is entitled to their opinions. [16:45] nvision (n=nvision@g229126065.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:45] nvision (n=nvision@g229126065.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Client Quit [16:45] The documentation for slackpkg is confusing. To perform a basic security update, do I run 'slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all' or do I need to run 'slackpkg install-new' in between those commands? I'm not changing versions, just updating installed packages. [16:45] so, what's yours? [16:46] security updates will not add *new* software. they will only update existing [16:46] I think that KDE 4.2 is the single best desktop I've ever used. [16:46] better than MacOS? [16:46] Absolutely. [16:46] really? [16:47] definatly [16:47] i hate the mac desktop [16:47] probably more than the windows xp de tbh [16:47] jkwood: what video card do you own? [16:47] you can recreate the mac desktop with compiz if you so choose [16:47] nullboy and jumperboy: it's *possible* for a post-release update to add *new* software, but it doesn't happen often. [16:47] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:47] Nvidia Quadro NVS 140M. [16:47] I don't want to recreate shit [16:47] Yes, that's a laptop. [16:47] For that reason, it's a good idea to do "install-new" between them. [16:47] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.195) joined ##slackware. [16:47] I will stick with my barebones desktop [16:48] rworkman: thanks [16:48] jkwood: with the nvidia drivers? [16:48] Zamm: i'm not saying you do, i'm saying that if there is some feature you like about mac os you can almost certainly also get it in compiz [16:48] Yes. [16:48] jkwood: thanks [16:48] i don't see what the problem is with running install-new anyway [16:48] i don't know about that: kiten doesn't work, quanta has disappeared, and i can't make myself comfortable with it at all [16:48] I can't think of anything :P [16:48] it's not like it will break anything.... [16:48] 180.29. [16:48] Although I need some better dockapps [16:48] nullboy: if i had a dollar everytime i thought hat.. [16:48] that* [16:48] oh, by the way, does kde 4.2 have native versions of amarok and k3b by now? [16:48] nullboy: yeah, you're right, since a stable tree is unlikely to have new packages [16:49] Amarok, yes. [16:49] somepeople make dockapps with terrible GUIs [16:49] k3b, no. [16:49] And you can gripe at the k3b dev about that. [16:49] nullboy: right :) [16:49] He's dragging his butt. [16:50] jkwood: i'm pretty sure he has a lot of things to do apart from giving us k3b for free, so i won't complain at all :) [16:50] it's just my first time using slackpkg, and there's no simple example given for doing a security update [16:51] jumperboy: That's because it's the same thing as doing it without slackpkg. [16:51] Downlaod the new packages and upgrade them. [16:51] Zamm (n=Jared@75-175-100-166.ptld.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [16:51] jumperboy, slackpkg upgrade-all , then choose all or some packages [16:51] So, slackpkg update; slackpkg upgrade-all [16:51] It's menu-driven, so don't worry about upgrading something you don't want to. [16:51] the documentation of slackpkg supposes you already know how to manage the same stuff by hand, so it will only tell you how you can do some of those things automatically [16:51] (And because of that, I wouldn't && it.) [16:52] josemanuel: Kiten works fine here. [16:53] k3b is still the best burning app out there. [16:53] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [16:54] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:54] Nick change: briareus_ -> briareus [16:55] True. And It's probably the one app that is stopping mostKDE users from moving to KDE 4. [16:55] kde4 doesn't have k3b? [16:55] yet [16:55] that's a complete deal breaker for me [16:56] jkwood, how do you turn to japanese input? [16:56] nullboy: there have been a huge load of commits lately though [16:56] I have no idea. [16:56] The k3b changelog in SVN looks promising though [16:56] I don't entirely understand the question. [16:56] that's good news [16:57] in kde3 you turned to japanese input with shift-space, now, even though the documentation says so, that doesn't work [16:57] i still haven't even let myself look at kd4 screenshots. i'm waiting until it shows up in the mainline -current before i even check it out [16:58] josemanuel: ctrl-space perhaps? [16:58] not here [16:58] by the way, does scim finally work with kde? [16:58] I'm not clear on why people write independent software that only works in one DE. [16:59] josemanuel: scim and kde work for me all the time [16:59] You mean with kde4? [16:59] it didn't work for me with kde3, i was wondering about kde4 [16:59] Nick change: RaeGrepus -> superGear [16:59] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:59] hiptobecubic: Technically, the deal breaker here is QT4. [17:00] QT4 isn't kde dependent [17:00] You can run KDE apps anywhere, and a lot of people do. [17:00] No, but KDE 4 is QT 4 dependent. [17:00] but you need a bunch of kde-only libs no? [17:00] same with gnome [17:00] Not necessarily. [17:01] http://k3b.plainblack.com/requirements number 1 is KDE >= 3.2 [17:01] Technically, that's probably kdelibs. [17:02] The thing of it is, it's much easier to write software when you have stuff like that to depend on. [17:03] We have the C standard libraries because nobody wants to write input/output functions in every program they write. [17:03] Windowing toolkits are much the same way. [17:03] Windowing toolkits are like QT and GTK, no? [17:04] And FLTK and wxWidgets and [insert a bunch more here] [17:06] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:06] I agree, it has its downsides. But, it's really better than the alternative. [17:06] s/QT/Qt/ [17:06] macavity: Sorry, old habits die hard. [17:06] :P [17:06] QT is teh evol :P [17:06] Qt is nice [17:09] I don't know, it seems like for something like this, where there is already a huge suite of CLI programs to do this, it wouldn't be impossible to make some kind of gui front-end that isn't DE dependent [17:09] sure.. just write to libx or libxcb [17:10] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [17:10] hi there [17:11] how can I configure routing by route to put traffic from eth0 to wlan0 ? [17:11] macavity: i mean, even if it uses a windowkit like Qt, you could still run it in xfce or fluxbox or gnome or what have you with just the qt libs installed. It wouldn't be a 'kde' app [17:12] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:12] nullboy1 (n=nullboy@97-94-107-72.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:12] I have situation where my computer is connected to small server by ethernet, this small server have two interfaces: eth0 and wlan0, wlan0 is connected to internet gateway and i wish to get connection to internet from my computer [17:12] Nick change: nullboy1 -> nullboy [17:12] josemanuel: Got some syllables for me to test turning into hiragan? [17:13] Action: jkwood doesn't speak Japanese at all [17:13] mac-, u just need to use iptables on small server [17:13] mac-: you need to enable ip forwarding on the server and setup the proper routes [17:13] DeeeP: can`t do that by routing table ? [17:13] nope [17:13] hiptobecubic: There are a ton of KDE 4 apps that are really just QT 4 apps. [17:14] but not k3b, which is the only one anyone needs :D [17:14] when this small server put packets from my computer and dens it to gateway ? [17:14] jkwood, i can give you some, but the problem is to input them directly, not copy/pasting: BDFHJ [17:14] mac-: what? [17:14] Supposedly, entering syllables will turn them into hiragana. [17:15] yes, supposedly [17:15] josemanuel: i can see those chars perfectly [17:15] looks nice [17:15] because i'm on kde3 and using utf-8 [17:15] nullboy: i send packet to 192.168.1.1, but i`m connected to small server which is connected to gateway [17:15] Guest1740878011 (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:16] all are in same network 192.168.1.x [17:16] mac-: this isn't making much sense. can you draw your network? [17:16] oh [17:16] you need to bridge then [17:16] mac-, trry iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE [17:16] no he needs to bridge [17:16] they are all on the same subnet [17:16] yeah, and i thought that route will enough to use it [17:17] route what? they are all on the same subnet [17:17] there is nothing to route [17:18] josemanuel: http://www.slaxer.com/images/kiten.png <-- Looks to be working to me. [17:18] damn jkwood fix your mimes [17:18] have you been able to type those characters yourself? [17:18] gm152_ (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:18] there it foes [17:18] when small servwer gets packets from my computer then lokoks on his routing table and know taht everything from eth0 send to wlan0, but aht in opposite direction? [17:18] Not directly, no. [17:18] you`re right [17:18] :> [17:18] well, that's the problem [17:18] I don't use scim, though. [17:18] well [17:19] you didn't need scim with kiten [17:19] you said to use bridge ? [17:19] mac-: you need to bridge on the server [17:19] bridge between those two interfaces ? [17:19] yep [17:19] right, i`m tired already :) [17:19] heh [17:19] Hmmm, it doesn't seem like a sane default for slackpkg to upgrade the kernel. Even the blacklist file suggests uncommenting those lines. [17:19] If that wlan0 is talking to an internet router it can not be in the same IP range as eth0 mac- .... [17:20] it's talking to a gateway [17:20] on a private subnet [17:20] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:20] Nick change: Guest1740878011 -> Gargantua [17:20] Yes I understand that nullboy [17:20] yep, all of tyem in same LAN [17:21] mac-, ull need that line 've sayed few lines ago [17:21] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:21] But how come those other interfaces all have an IP address in that same LAN subnet? [17:21] Probably the best way to go about this would be to email the developers of Kiten and let them know it doesn't work right. [17:21] i took it as a multihomed server working as a wifi bridge [17:21] aka an AP server [17:22] i think i have it reversed though, now that i look back [17:22] We will not know unless we see a network diagram though [17:22] mac-: draw it for us [17:22] label the interface names and IPs too [17:23] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:23] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-159-150.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [17:24] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cca23.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:25] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cca23.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:31] so guys, clamav is kicking but on my linux system. is there a way to scan for spyware from a linux system though? [17:32] butt* [17:32] dissocia2ive (n=dissocia@190.28.166.255) joined ##slackware. [17:34] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] tewmten: P_I_n_G! [17:35] ezi nullboy [17:35] nullboy: with clamav? =/ [17:35] flush your cookies, delete ~/.mozilla? [17:35] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-177-30.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:35] i'm using clamav for virus searching from linux but i'd like something for spyware searching from linux [17:36] wireshark? tcpdump? [17:36] not for my linux systems, for scanning windows systems from linux [17:36] nullboy: IDS... :) snort. [17:36] probably best bet huh [17:36] omg, just seen a M$ commercial and it was totally ripping off Opensource [17:36] phrag: link? [17:36] ezi phragginz [17:36] hmm, was just on tv... let me find it [17:37] the wholre advert i thought it was for some open technology company... o.0 [17:38] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:38] they are breaking their nails against the sides of the well they are falling down [17:38] Shuren (n=Devilman@host186-170-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "In silence we still talk..." [17:38] its kinda cute [17:39] i can't find it, but it was shocking =P [17:39] hows it going acidchild, long time! [17:39] ..again =P [17:40] it did wreak of desparation =P [17:40] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] http://bencollver.googlepages.com/ss2.jpg [17:43] what are we looking at? [17:43] minfontsize=200? [17:43] a google result being displayed in firefox, in an insanely large font for some reason [17:44] i have not changed the firefox font defaults [17:44] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-159-150.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:44] that's weird lol, i blame a google node =P [17:44] or corrupt data stream [17:45] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [17:46] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:46] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:47] is thepiratebay down? [17:48] not for me [17:49] seems ok [17:49] http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com [17:49] hmm, where can i enable bridge in kernel ? [17:49] mac-: it's enabled [17:50] u dont need it [17:50] you need to configure the bridge if you have decided that bridging is what you need now [17:50] just run iptables command [17:50] root@sojuz:/home/mac# brctl addbr br0 [17:50] add bridge failed: Package not installed [17:50] ? [17:50] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui" [17:50] mac-: are you even using slackware? [17:51] mac-, u reading what i'm writing ? [17:51] i have package bridge-utils [17:51] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:52] mac-: what does this command show you? grep rdi /etc/inittab [17:52] mac-: echo $PATH ? [17:52] hehe [17:52] root@sojuz:/home/mac# grep rdi /etc/inittab [17:52] # Modified by: Patrick J. Volkerding, [17:52] Channel flood from mac- -- kicking [17:52] :P [17:52] mac- kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [17:52] ok [17:53] mac- (i=mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:53] re [17:53] well .. [17:53] mac-: echo $PATH ? [17:53] /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin [17:55] ls /var/log/packages/br* [17:55] but we still haven't seen a diagram, which would help us help you. [17:55] /var/log/packages/bridge-utils-1.2-i486-2 [17:56] pastebin..? [17:57] nullboy: wait a moment please [17:57] diagrams would probably work better in imagebin.... [17:59] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:59] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host81-153-236-141.range81-153.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:02] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-116-247.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:02] rg3 (n=rg3@83.231.88.183) left irc: "Quit" [18:02] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-202-6.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:02] dude___ (n=joe@222-152-11-30.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "Leaving" [18:07] is there a program for counting how many bytes has a stream from stdin? [18:08] I'm curious if you cant pipe it through with a command [18:08] such as du [18:09] dd might be able to take stdin and then use of=/dev/null [18:09] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [18:09] it should spit out stats when it exits [18:10] SlackLnX (n=Lee@85.139.11.243) joined ##slackware. [18:10] it can spit the data out to stdout as well cant it? [18:10] probably [18:10] provided you need it some where [18:10] i was just suggesting it but i don't know for sure how to implement [18:11] roger, nor do i ;) [18:11] dissocia2ive: pipe it to "wc -c" [18:12] I'm just looking if two .wav files have the same pcm raw content [18:13] I supposed but they don't [18:14] can you pipe to md5sum? [18:14] diff -y hahaha [18:15] lol [18:16] I did: sox CDimage.wav -t raw | md5sum - [18:16] oops [18:16] It is: sox CDimage.wav -t raw - | md5sum - [18:17] both images were ripped with slighty different settings that's because they dont match [18:17] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-202104.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:19] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) left ##slackware. [18:19] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] making perfect rips of Digital AUdio CDs seems at complete nightmare [18:21] nullboy: jungaus.pl/traffic.txt [18:22] uh [18:22] mac- it makes no sense [18:22] hm, why ? [18:22] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.28) left irc: [18:22] lol [18:23] With all IP's in the same subnet 192.168.1.xxx why can't all PCs talk to internet? [18:23] hmm [18:23] Or do you use a non-default netmask? [18:23] look at it once again [18:23] maybe some have the wrong gateway? [18:23] or netmask [18:23] look at what? [18:23] wtf [18:23] this txt file [18:23] My PC is connected to small server with ethernet [18:24] and my pc do not have wlan interface [18:24] mac- the gateway only supports wireless connections? [18:24] yep ... [18:24] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [18:24] that's why i said to bridge eth0 with wlan [18:24] In that case, bridging would work [18:24] spiral_architect (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.77) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:24] give it one ip [18:25] ok, freat i know [18:25] i have same solution, but ehwn trying to create br0 interface i`ve got error [18:25] nullboy: not all wireless drivers support bridging though [18:25] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [18:25] yeah don't i know it [18:25] i've battled that crap many times [18:26] intel wifi + bridge = mayhem [18:26] The cleaner solution would be to put all "wired" interfaces into a different subnet (say, 192.168.2.xxx) and then setup routing [18:26] i have Sagem usb wifi card there [18:26] mac-: what driver does it use? [18:27] zd1211rw [18:27] i'm not familiar with that driver/chipset [18:27] ok, but now what is with this error [18:27] ? [18:28] supergators on tv [18:29] mac-: lsmod | grep bridge [18:29] anything? [18:29] nope, i do not have this module [18:29] modprobe bridge [18:29] not found [18:29] uname -a [18:30] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:30] Linux sojuz 2.6.28 #6 Tue Jan 13 21:41:54 CET 2009 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux [18:30] ... [18:30] hm ? [18:31] you didn't configure bridge support in your kernel [18:31] hmm, `im looking at kernel config now, but can`t find this option there [18:31] i suppose taht it is not compiled [18:31] but can`t find it [18:32] what does this show? zgrep CONFIG_BRIDGE= /proc/config.gz [18:32] if it's built-in, have a look at /sys/class/net and see if you get brX interfaces listed. otherwise, as noted if you do modprobe bridge and it comes back with an error you don't have bridge support [18:32] you should either see zgrep CONFIG_BRIDGE=m or =y [18:32] yeah i know it [18:33] josemanuel (n=josemanu@59.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [18:33] Linux rogue 2.6.29-rc5-ajj #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Feb 16 23:23:48 CET 2009 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7400 @ 2.16GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [18:33] is there a program similar to iptraf but can create a graphical time-history of the average bandwidth used for an interface? bonus points if it can filter by port [18:33] im living on the edge :P [18:33] damn it, it is not set :/ [18:33] basically like a really stripped down cacti [18:33] i`ve checked it on .config file under kernel sources build directory [18:34] me pushes macavity over the edge [18:34] mac-: well you're going to have rebuild it and enable bridging. you might as well set it all to m [18:35] mac- you are not running Slackware on your computer, right? [18:35] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-146-7.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [18:35] i tested him on that already, he seems to have slackware but it's a custom kernel [18:36] Slackware patched out that "unknown unknown" from uname's output a long time ago [18:36] hmm [18:36] it was annoying, too [18:37] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:37] mac-: /exec -o cat /etc/*sio* [18:37] it might be a derivative then because his inittab has Pat's info [18:37] alot of inittab's say Pat's info :> [18:37] mac-: care to level with us now? [18:37] so we can stop wasting our time on you [18:38] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [18:38] alienBOB: i`m running on SLackware [18:38] but this is 10.2 version [18:38] What version? [18:38] Ah old. [18:38] yep [18:38] O_O [18:38] And with a 2.6.28 kernel? How daring [18:38] that wont work iirc [18:38] i have 7.0.0 on my PC with same kernel :) [18:38] Yeah [18:39] iirc there is something about glibc on 10.2 and only support upto 2.6.18 *i think* [18:39] hmm, how can I build kernel with modules to tarball ? [18:39] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.195) left irc: "Leaving." [18:39] i`ve changed glibc there [18:39] good lord [18:39] and most of packages [18:40] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc3-asht4-0-0-cust917.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:41] Nick change: _Dinde -> Dinde [18:44] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.161.243) left irc: "leaving" [18:44] >_< [18:46] seems to me that simply upgrading to a newer version of slackware would be much easier [18:46] i`m not sure [18:46] :> [18:46] ..but not as 1337... the '95 way [18:46] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [18:47] hmm, how can I build kernel with modules to tarball ? [18:47] well i am pretty sure [18:47] there is an make target to do just that [18:47] mac-: download Patrick's buildscript [18:47] since you rebuilt glibc you should be able to figure this out.... [18:47] i`ve done this before, but cannot remember it now :/ [18:47] s/rebuilt/rehaxedihaxed/ [18:48] i`m a little tired now but have to complete this work [18:48] before sleep [18:48] so do it [18:48] i just told you there is a make target to build tarballs [18:50] ...or just download Patrick's nice and easy to use kernel buildscript, as found under the source/ dir on you local ftp server [18:51] what's he trying to do? build a kernel and tarball it? [18:51] yeah [18:52] make tarbz2-pkg :) [18:52] i`m working on old machine [18:52] and have to buil my kernels on faster remote system [18:53] and you can't just make the kernel normally and scp the bzimage over? why doesn't it need to be a package? [18:53] it will bz2 compressed file [18:53] because targets like this and similiar ones targz-pkg Builds a gzip-compressed tarball that contains the compiled kernel and modules [18:53] right [18:54] http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:Rl_u17vTQYAJ:www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch10.pdf+kernel+make+targets&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us [18:54] oh shit, then I will have to restart SmallServer :/ [18:55] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:56] hi, does anyone use kpovmodler in slack 12.2? [18:56] i tried to render a cone, and it's telling me that it can't call povray. is there an alternate ray app already installed in 12.2, or do i need povray? [19:01] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [19:02] blkdg : uhmm, there is no alternative, and there is no povray [19:02] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Success [19:02] and yes, you need povray [19:03] Heh, I opened kpovmodeler and my box hardlocked. [19:04] hardlocked? [19:04] :/ [19:04] ZOMFG?! [19:04] i couldn't find a slackbuilds script so i guess i'll try to install it. [19:04] thanks ananke . [19:04] acidchild, moomoo [19:05] Ello ;) [19:05] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4F675.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [19:05] what you up to? [19:06] thawin out some beef for dinner [19:06] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left ##slackware. [19:06] whats for dinner? [19:06] i aint ate nothing yet. [19:06] beef strokin' off [19:07] porcupine balls:P [19:07] :| [19:07] acidchild, yep. [19:07] Froze up. [19:07] meatballs with rice in em [19:07] ccfreak2k: happens now and then to me. [19:07] ccfreak2k: i just reboot and continue lol [19:08] Quality Linux programming. [19:08] meh [19:08] less bitching, more developing =] [19:08] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc3-asht4-0-0-cust917.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [19:09] sometimes i wonder if a programmer would be more productive if they only got online 1 day per week [19:10] i agree. [19:10] i heard of famous recluse developers.. Donald Knuth for example [19:10] i've spent all weekend getting my perl up to grade [19:10] then again, he might not be a good example of a productive programmer [19:10] everybodys life is diffrent. [19:11] true [19:11] oh lord is it ananke? [19:11] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:11] i had to hack a perl program last week.. i haven't touched perl in a long time [19:11] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-186-2.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:11] i'm going to hide for a few months, got a big workload a head of me [19:11] it feels lower level than javascript and php [19:11] pi31415: boooo perl [19:11] acidchild, i'm gona hide too [19:11] nix_chix0r: yeah? [19:12] commin' out on my birthday? =] [19:12] sure [19:12] spiral_architect (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.77) joined ##slackware. [19:12] when is it [19:12] i'm holding you to that =P [19:12] 1st of march lol [19:12] why is kpovmodler installed in 12.2, while pov-ray isn't? is the modler part of KDE? bundled I'm guessing? [19:12] acidchild, i cant make that::P [19:12] :( [19:12] yea! i made a green cube! [19:13] acidchild, i dont wana be that far from my hospital:p [19:13] pi31415: yeah, i suck at perl... but i've produced a fair bit this weekend. [19:13] ok.. i just made a brow dough [19:13] i do not know how to articulate it, but i like how my javascript and tcl code feel less noisy than my Perl and PHP code [19:13] *brown [19:13] is that comparable? :P [19:13] rewriting a whole bunch of applications i have from other people... good way of learning. [19:13] I've seen some awfully noise javascript code in the wild though [19:14] noisy [19:14] of course. :-P [19:15] thanks again. [19:15] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [19:15] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-186-2.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [19:16] anyone done electrical work? [19:16] i have a bulb i'm using that says "for movie set equipment only" [19:16] is it safe to have it directly fed at 120V with no suppression? [19:17] i blew one already, but it was old and laying around [19:17] is it fluorescent? [19:17] no [19:17] maybe? 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[19:24] http://notes.kateva.org/2005/01/stratosphere-on-everest-more.html [19:24] i guess the answer is "sometimes yes" [19:24] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-69-59-107-7.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [19:25] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-338385.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [19:26] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [19:26] TheBig (n=TheBig@151.16.179.92) joined ##slackware. [19:27] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:29] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:30] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [19:32] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:34] how do i get echo to print a "!"? [19:34] echo "Wrong!" gives bash bitching, and echo "Wrong\!" prints litterally that?!? [19:35] Single quotes [19:35] sticks (n=sticks@ppp118-208-126-191.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:34] Megaf (n=WMaker@unaffiliated/megaf) joined ##slackware. [20:35] zErOaCid: hack any gibsons lately? [20:35] if you are going to install a newer version of some app it would be best to remove the old package manually first [20:35] wasn't that acidburn and zerocool? [20:35] unless upgradepkg handles it [20:35] or just upgradepkg if the package structures are the same [20:35] Usually, that is the case. [20:35] the structure shouldn't even matter [20:36] MegafEee (n=WMaker@unaffiliated/megaf) left irc: Connection timed out [20:36] ahhh better do upgradepkg .. thanks [20:36] well, just playing around with slackware again :) [20:37] Guest1740878011 (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:38] lol acidburn + zerocool = zeroacid [20:39] gxine appears twice in the file associations in konqueror.. I tried to uninstall gxine and it's still there, but only once [20:39] nullboy: Do I have permission to stamp a BSD license on iw script? I'll also need your real name if at all possible [20:39] ut oh [20:39] See mesg [20:40] i don't have any permission [20:40] i didn't know it needed it [20:40] it/i [20:41] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-135.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [20:41] nullboy: success on tang day? :P [20:42] nope [20:46] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-139.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] antler: it's tough for me [20:49] IgorTude (i=1000@189.105.5.137) joined ##slackware. [20:49] i'm CaptainIntrovert [20:49] but i'm working on it ;) [20:50] alguém pode me dar uma ajuda plz =/ [20:50] IgorTude: Br? [20:50] br, en... [20:50] ##slackware-br [20:50] tanto faz.. [20:50] thkz [20:51] but, could u help me? [20:51] Nick change: IgorTude -> slackware-br [20:51] hahah [20:51] Nick change: slackware-br -> IgorTude [20:51] fck [20:51] i don't speak Portuguese [20:51] in english [20:51] maybe we can [20:52] so.. idk what is happenin'.. my wireless card dont connect.. =/ [20:53] how far have you gotten and what type of card? [20:53] about 6 months ... i think.. my laptop... [20:53] atheros [20:54] is it encrypted? [20:54] WEP,WPA? [20:54] so, anyone.. it doesnt matter =( [20:54] on windows it works [20:54] but, it is wep [20:55] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10539 [20:55] examples [20:55] bash-3.1# dhcpcd ath0 [20:55] Broadcasting DHCP_DISCOVER [20:55] timed out =/ [20:56] i try to reinstall madwifi but.. nothing happen =/ the same err [20:56] nullboy: :D try harder. she's waiting. [20:56] IgorTude: is it associating properly? iwconfig ath0 [20:56] loook [20:56] can i paste here? [20:57] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com [20:57] there [20:57] just a min.. [20:57] what do u want to see? [20:57] iwconfig output? [20:57] yeah [20:58] nullboy: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10540 [20:59] hmm [20:59] Access Point: Not-Associated [20:59] you have poor signal [20:59] but [20:59] look [20:59] it depends the place i am... [20:59] here at house.. [21:00] IgorTude: have you recently gotten satellite tv or a new cordless telephone? [21:00] i connect from an open wireless [21:00] IgorTude: that can interfere with wireless signal [21:00] godling: the signal is not mine [21:00] there r some open points here.. [21:00] got it? [21:00] gm152_ (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:01] then i try to connect to keep myself out of my room lol.. [21:01] but only works on windows =/ [21:01] here, i got timed out [21:01] another problem is my bluetooth adapter [21:01] wont works too =( [21:02] sorry my english =) [21:02] your english is just fine. we can understand you [21:02] IgorTude: have you tried wicd (just to see)? [21:02] more or less :) [21:02] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-100-138-230.ade.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [21:02] antler: wlassistant [21:02] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-100-138-230.ade.connect.net.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:02] look [21:02] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:02] i got some pass... [21:03] a girl who lives in another apartment here [21:03] wlassistant got her... let me show u [21:03] who needs internet access when you have access to women? :) [21:04] godling: i dont have hhheeheh [21:04] lol [21:04] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [21:04] but the net Gives me access to women. *sigh* [21:04] my girl is good hehe [21:04] but look [21:04] i ll paste again [21:04] antler: those aren't women! [21:05] with 11 + -... on windows i can connect.. [21:05] apple pies are women with a little encouragement :P [21:05] 11 (signal) [21:05] sticks (n=sticks@ppp118-208-126-191.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:05] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10541 [21:05] look [21:05] spiral_architect (n=spiral_a@24.225.23.77) left irc: "Leaving" [21:05] slakd (n=root@190.104.8.85) joined ##slackware. [21:06] it looks like signal problems to me [21:06] IgorTude: notice how the link quality is better than the ohter you pasted [21:06] *other [21:06] I agree with nullboy. [21:07] =( [21:07] in another place here (at house) [21:07] i get 35 + - [21:07] and it dont works too [21:07] =/ [21:07] hm [21:07] IgorTude: are you using wpa_supplicant? [21:07] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl32-212.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [21:08] how can i see !? [21:08] newb =( [21:08] you'd know [21:08] i can help you manually test it using wpa_supplicant [21:08] do you want to try that? [21:09] y [21:09] ok few minutes [21:09] i need to make it works [21:09] cause when i'm out of home.. i need the wireless [21:10] IgorTude: nano /root/wpa_supplicant-TEST.conf [21:10] put this in that file: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10542 [21:10] edit lines: 8 and 11 [21:11] line 8 = SSID and line 11 = key in hex [21:11] i can see that.. but firs [21:11] first [21:11] i ll tell u [21:12] when i'm out of home, i ll need to edit this file to connect in another one... correct? [21:12] we will talk about that soon [21:12] this is just a test [21:12] ahh, okay [21:12] just a mim [21:12] min [21:12] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [21:13] let me find a better signal here [21:13] let me get close from window [21:14] Dr_Code (n=Dr_Code@66-190-38-47.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:14] when I run edje.SlackBuild I get "No package 'ecore-evas' found" any suggestions on how to fix this. I can't seem to find anything relevant on google. [21:14] IgorTude: we created that test config file in /root that we will use just a our testing config. Slackware has it's own wpa_supplicant.conf. /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf. You can configure as many networks are you want in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf so that it will connect to whatever network you are close to and which ever one has the best signal [21:15] Dr_Code: from the readme: " [21:15] nullboy: okay, let me add [21:15] Edje is dependent upon ecore and embryo packages." [21:15] IgorTude: let me know when your test file is created [21:15] on /root/wpa_supplicant-TEST.conf [21:15] perfect [21:15] danillo (i=slack@201-69-177-80.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:15] done [21:16] AEnima1578 (n=asdfjkl@nc6520ea3.cns.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [21:16] hi everybody [21:16] IgorTude: ok. now try this: wpa_supplicant -ddd -Dwext -iath0 -c /root//wpa_supplicant-TEST.conf [21:16] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:16] thrice`: My end goal is to run the slackbuild for enlightenment. I have installed in this order - eet, evas, ecore, e_dbus, efreet, embryo. [21:17] i have a card tv express card, but when i plug it in my laptop, i have no message returned by ---------> dmesg [21:17] thrice`: When I check KPackage, they show up as being installed. [21:17] Dr_Code: and you installed ecore ? [21:17] yet your first goal should be to read the readme that is provided free of charge [21:17] i've already loaded the module pciehp, -----------> modprobe pciehp [21:17] but nothing [21:18] paissad: does lspci list anything? [21:18] i 've also taken a lot of -----------> lspci | grep -i express [21:18] thrice`: yes, I have [21:18] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: No route to host [21:18] nullboy: done [21:18] nullboy, done [21:18] lool [21:18] IgorTude: did it connect? [21:18] IgorTude: in another terminal try dhcpcd [21:18] dhcpcd ath0 [21:19] fck man... timed out.. i think it could be the driver... =( could be?, on slack 12.1 it works... now.. =(( [21:20] timed out waiting for a valid DHCP server response [21:20] could be yes [21:20] could be the driver or could be a bad signal or could be both [21:20] I have an atheros card, and madwifi works fine. [21:20] madwifi [21:20] hmm [21:20] blacklisted ath5k already.. [21:20] was slackware 12.1 setup for wext + madwifi? [21:20] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-26-84-14.nrth.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:20] uninstall, install, reinstall hehe [21:20] Might not be the exact same chipset, but it definitely works. [21:20] on slack12.1 just installed madwifi [21:20] and it works [21:21] Yep. [21:21] NaCl: i know they work too but he is on 12.1 and i don't know if madwifi + wpa_supplicant was setup to work with wext [21:21] i don't remember [21:21] He needs to rebuild wpa_supplicant [21:21] that's what i thought [21:21] I had to do that. [21:21] one day I'm going to install slackware on this laptop [21:22] one day when I'm less lazy [21:22] nullboy: what can i do now? =( [21:22] lspci -vvv -t <---------------------------------------------------- http://www.pastebin.ca/1344588 [21:22] wpa_supplicant needs to be rebuilt using the madwifi sources OR he needs to keep trying WEP with just iwconfig [21:22] i thought madwifi got the wrong driver =( [21:23] madwifi is fine [21:23] So when i resume from pm-suspend, it disables irq 16 (my audio). W [21:23] any idea [21:23] nullboy: re, ath5k and hostapd? [21:23] macavity: ugly [21:23] Anyone have an idea on what i can do to look at why that is happening and stop it from doing that? [21:23] on slack12.1 just ath_pci worked... [21:23] is my expresscard recognized well ? [21:23] istran02 (n=erwin@119.95.133.124) joined ##slackware. [21:23] macavity: it is in a state of flux right now [21:23] ok [21:24] 12.2, load ath5k.. thats because i think madwifi got another drive.. [21:24] slakd (n=root@190.104.8.85) left irc: "Leaving" [21:25] i havent tried ath5k on the 12.2 shipped kernel, but here it works nicely on plain .27 and .28... and on .29-rc5 [21:25] I am using ath5k on my acer netbook. [21:26] ath5k isn't the issue though [21:26] nullboy: could u connect here to see ? [21:26] it's hostapd and the slew of git versions [21:26] IgorTude: i don't do that [21:26] okk [21:27] macavity agentc0re: ath5k works great in client mode for me. the problem is all the stuff to get ath5k + hostapd working in master mode...there are like 5 different programs + a regulatory bin needed and right now the kernel is a moving target [21:27] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [21:27] The slackbuild script here: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.1/source/n/wpa_supplicant/ should do the trick [21:27] ahoy ther [21:27] nullboy: that sounds like the "let's wait it out" syndrome [21:28] yep [21:28] any idea to help me? [21:28] generic config on kernel.. [21:28] madwifi [21:28] IgorTude: try pulling all of the stuff from that above link, and then run the SlackBuild [21:29] let me see [21:29] That should build a madwifi-capable wpa_supplicant. [21:29] in a previous version (12.1) i dont need anything.. just the madwifi =// [21:30] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Nick collision from services. [21:30] No. You need to rebuild wpa_supplicant. [21:30] nullboy1 (n=nullboy@97-94-107-72.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:30] Nick change: nullboy1 -> nullboy [21:30] tell me how [21:30] ;$ [21:30] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:31] IgorTude: get everything here: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.1/source/n/wpa_supplicant/ [21:31] done [21:31] sh wpa_supplicant.SlackBuild [21:31] AEnima1578 (n=asdfjkl@nc6520ea3.cns.vt.edu) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:32] almost done [21:32] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:32] let me drink some water... [21:33] the man needs water dammit! [21:33] upgradepkg --reinstall /tmp/wpa_supplicant-whatever-the-rest-of-the-package-is.tgz [21:33] denied, be hardcore you wuss :P [21:33] =) [21:33] drink whiskey, not water [21:34] danillo (i=slack@201-69-177-80.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [21:34] whiskey might not be useful if you have work the next day [21:34] speaking of whiskey...i rented there will be blood the other night for the first time. [21:34] that is one wicked movie [21:35] done [21:35] what else? [21:35] upgradepkg --reinstall [21:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [21:35] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl32-212.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: [21:36] nullboy: haven't seen it [21:36] what else [21:36] worth watching... [21:36] totally [21:36] NaCl: whiskey is always good. it helps you tell your boss exactly how your relationship is progressing. [21:36] IgorTude: try running the wpa_supplicant command that nullboy suggested, just replace -Dwext with -Dmadwifi [21:37] It should authenticate you then. [21:37] godling: The relationship with the boss, or with your significant other? [21:38] look NaCl [21:38] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10543 [21:38] unsupported.. [21:38] dammn grr [21:38] I may have forgotten something. [21:39] you have to tell the wpa_supplicant build where the madwifi sources are [21:39] the configured sources no less [21:39] how can i do that [21:39] just use the SBo madwifi driver build first and point the wpa_supplicant config file to /tmp/SBo/madwifi-blahblah [21:39] It looks like the build knows where the madwifi includes are, if they were installed using alienBOB's package [21:40] you have to enable it though iirc [21:40] but i could remember wrong [21:40] NaCl: both would work [21:40] i dont understand =( [21:41] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:41] slakd (n=root@190.104.8.85) joined ##slackware. [21:41] IgorTude: do you have a directory /usr/include/madwifi ? [21:42] n [21:42] IgorTude: there's the problem [21:42] thrice`: Strange. ecore showed up in KPackage is being installed. I re-ran the slackbuild for ecore, then re-installed the package, seems to work now. [21:42] IgorTude: use this http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.1/network/madwifi-driver/ [21:43] Build/install it, then rebuild wpa_supplicant [21:43] a min [21:44] here is carnaval.. [21:44] brazil... bahia, salvador... [21:44] godling: I don't know of too many jobs in which whiskey would help [21:44] pffft [21:45] i bet if you worked at Maker's Mark or JD it would help [21:45] sorry i don't speak english very well and i just would like to know the meaning of this sentence ? [21:45] -------> (what's left of it for you [21:45] what was before that sentence [21:45] what is left of it, for you. (you can have the rest, bitch) [21:46] 42 [21:46] -------> OK, [21:46] Then ttyl [21:46] Have a good night [21:46] Channel flood from paissad -- kicking [21:46] (what's left of it for you) [21:46] paissad kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [21:46] paissad (n=paissad@89.55.198-77.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] see context, no "bitch" needed [21:46] NaCl: this madwifi file, returns error [21:47] i flooded ? [21:47] paissad: it means "have a good rest of a night" [21:47] ok, thanks [21:47] paissad: the night is coming to an end, have a good time [21:47] IgorTude: put it in a pastebin [21:47] NaCl: i ll try to install by ports [21:48] Dr_Code (n=Dr_Code@66-190-38-47.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:48] Did you install madwifi manually? [21:48] unsupported card? [21:49] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-139.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [21:49] The includes should be in /usr/local/include/madwifi [21:49] the card is supported this is just a configuration issue [21:49] NaCl: [21:49] i tried [21:49] but wont works [21:49] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:49] i install [21:49] madwifi-trunk [21:49] madwifi-trunk-r3867-20080924 [21:50] this one [21:50] Do you have a /usr/local/include/madwifi ? [21:50] let me check [21:51] no [21:52] What error did the SlackBuild give you? [21:52] whats is the adapter? [21:52] a min [21:52] hi [21:52] *what [21:53] saneseto (n=sanesto@modemcable127.214-56-74.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:53] I installed flashplayer9.0.31 but dont work [21:54] I have firefox 1.5 and slackware 10.2 [21:55] slakd: define "don't work" [21:55] hey guys, anyone know how can i personalize(change it like i want) the login's quotes ?? [21:56] Im sorry I am learning english [21:56] saneseto: man fortune [21:57] saneseto (n=sanesto@modemcable127.214-56-74.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Client Quit [21:57] guys, [21:58] i need to go... =( [21:58] ll be back later.. [21:58] =// [21:58] IgorTude (i=1000@189.105.5.137) left irc: "leaving" [21:58] The slackbuilds worked for me [21:59] oadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /root/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] [21:59] help me please [21:59] dudek (n=fee@189.111.163.200) joined ##slackware. [22:00] Hi all [22:00] slakd: why on earth are you using your root account? [22:00] Nick change: slakd -> sphinx [22:00] lol [22:00] eddief2 (n=eddie@141.157.208.113) joined ##slackware. [22:00] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.72.14) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:00] dudek: all is not in today [22:01] dudek: dude all died! [22:01] sphinx: do you have flash player installed? [22:01] O... thx! [22:01] :/ [22:01] yes [22:01] LoL [22:01] :pç [22:02] flashplayer9.0.31 [22:02] eddief2 (n=eddie@141.157.208.113) left irc: Client Quit [22:02] sphinx: try it as a normal user (not root) [22:03] eddief2 (n=eddie@pool-141-157-208-113.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] sphinx: and this is on slackwaver-version ... ? [22:04] slackware 0,1 [22:04] right? [22:05] 10.2 [22:05] oh btw, is there a way I can get a copy of slackware 0.1? [22:05] or 1.0 rather, [22:05] bhodgins: no. [22:05] probably not. [22:05] I know I don't have the hardware the kernel needs but still heh [22:06] spacebear (n=spacebea@ti121210a081-4456.bb.online.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:06] http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/historic-linux/distributions/slackware/ [22:07] That is a lot of floppies [22:07] thank god those days are over [22:08] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:08] you'll be saying the same thing about cds/dvds in a few years [22:08] I remember installing Wordperfect from ~20 floppies [22:09] oh, i got the OS/2 Warp release on 32 floppies [22:09] .. for FREE! :P [22:11] wow, thats incredible [22:12] hashed_ (n=hashed_@ip70-178-108-166.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] you got 32 floppies for free that need to be formatted! [22:12] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:12] I need a floppy drive [22:12] gm152_ (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:13] ive been installing my custom boot loader to a usb stick mbr [22:13] Gah. I've tried adding boot options "irqpoll" and "noirqdebug". Both stop the kernel from reporting that irq 16 is being disabled when i resume from suspend but my audio still doesn't work. Anyone have any other ideas i could try? [22:14] arent you supposed to disable interrupts when entering 32 bit protected mode though? [22:14] then re enable them [22:15] PLEASEEEEE... HELP ME WITH THE FUCK OF "KOMMANDER" [22:15] LoL [22:15] :p [22:16] ow. My ears. [22:16] dudek: Don't be annoying. [22:17] bhodgins: I have no idea. [22:17] Well, I'm not!. :p [22:18] All caps is generally considered annoying. [22:18] And so is swearing. [22:18] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:18] when it's in all caps, anyways [22:18] I don't find profanity annoying. [22:19] just distracting from the conversation [22:19] BP{k}: nice find - I didn't know they had a prehistoric repository [22:19] RaeGrepus (i=ESAm5P@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:20] No, I don't find it distracting from the conversation either. :) [22:20] linear_shift (n=linear_s@unaffiliated/linearshift/x-186235) joined ##slackware. [22:20] hey, anybody here remember me? [22:20] nope [22:20] linear_shift: No. [22:20] no. [22:20] nope [22:20] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. [22:20] hehe [22:20] guess not [22:20] not a clue [22:20] good guess [22:20] don't recognize anyone [22:21] linear_shift: how long has it been? [22:21] linear_shift: do you owe me money? [22:21] like three years [22:21] godling: always the important question [22:21] that's like 12 in internet years [22:21] godling: i hope not :D [22:21] but then again if you ask a question in a IRC channel you can pretty much assume that if one answer would make the asker feel good and another answer would make the asker feel blah...the asker will most likely receive the blah answer [22:21] linear_shift: is there some reason we should remember you? What sets you apart? [22:22] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-68-56-141-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:22] linear_shift: lets make it 2 at the most okay. [22:22] danc3: i just used to be a heavy user of this one [22:22] Action: BP{k} coughs [22:22] must not have been too heavy [22:22] heh [22:22] michiel@hades:~$ cat irclogs/freenode/##slackware.200?.log | grep "linear_shift" | wc -l [22:22] 24 [22:22] lol [22:22] heh [22:23] linear_shift: what happened? jail? [22:23] linear_shift: you got out after three years for good behavier? [22:23] wow, that sure is "heavy" [22:23] no [22:23] linear_shift: oh and those are logs going back to may2005. [22:23] just went offline for quite awhile [22:23] i haunt other channels nowadays [22:23] Computer burst into flames? [22:24] yep: "#misc #HamRadio #space ##Astronomy #radioastronomy" [22:24] :P [22:24] http://qrbg.irb.hr/ [22:24] AEnima1578 (n=asdfjkl@c-71-62-151-225.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] maybe further back... [22:24] oh [22:24] i know another one [22:25] ummm.....whatever [22:25] man I need a good book to read when I m at work [22:27] kitche: you can always try your hand at writing an "XXXXX For Dummies" book :) [22:27] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:27] I'd rather write "XXX for Dummies". ;) [22:27] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-98.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] just waste time by catting random files in /dev/dsp [22:28] that's always a hoot [22:28] Isn't 5 X's more potent than 3? [22:28] I'd rather read his book [22:29] alisonken1home: I vcould but I signed one of those what you make at work is owned by the company kind of things [22:29] Guest11577 (n=liveuser@189-47-250-100.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:29] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:30] ok laters ppl [22:30] linear_shift (n=linear_s@unaffiliated/linearshift/x-186235) left ##slackware ("We part, but not forever, for forever is only a measure of time. lata, ls."). [22:30] sphinx (n=root@190.104.8.85) left irc: "Leaving" [22:31] heh, so much for his heavy use. [22:31] HAHA [22:31] define 'heavy'? [22:32] Obese? [22:32] Guest11577 (n=liveuser@189-47-250-100.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [22:32] NaCl: iron, cobalt, zinc [22:32] omg, nfs is killing my system... [22:32] 22:30:37 up 25 days, 9:43, 19 users, load average: 19.57, 25.30, 17.17 [22:32] might as well throw in lead [22:33] NaCl: I couldn't pick it up [22:33] HA [22:33] edman007, i got a pic of my melon up [22:33] They don't call it plumbing for nothing [22:33] nix_chix0r, oh? [22:33] nfs is meant to kill your machine if you do not have a heavy iron system really [22:34] kitche, but it is a heavy ass machine...hardware raid 5, 8-core... [22:34] only one melon..strange [22:34] edman007, http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8464/watermelon.jpg [22:34] chopp: hey, don't be mean! [22:35] no birthing no babies in here [22:36] roger [22:36] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:37] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:37] has anyone ever played with one of those prepaid cell phones you can buy at a liquor store? [22:37] dang, ran out of beer [22:37] how does it work? you just give them cash and you get a phone + number? [22:37] ff is insanely slow under heavy I/O load :( [22:37] nullboy: yeah but then the guy told me to put it back [22:37] nix_chix0r, you are going to blow! [22:38] and it's going to hurt like a mother [22:38] nullboy, yea, they work just fine [22:38] edman007: do they take ID or something? [22:38] edman007, he's gona break free just like the queen song [22:38] they got prepaid phones now with unlimited voice, web, text for $50 a month [22:39] nullboy: it depends which prepaid it is [22:39] nullboy, i got a trac phone, and they asked for name/address and that you sign up on their site, but no real verification [22:39] twolf: i'm looking for one with no sign up crap. i just need a cellphone for like two weeks and i don't want to have to worry about the bill [22:39] nullboy, its really just so they can spam you [22:39] tracfone has no bills [22:39] ugh [22:39] hi, silly question - other than the esc key, how else can I stimulate the effect of the meta key? I was assuming the windows key would do it.. but it's not doing it [22:39] trac phones are crap i had a virgin mobile pre paid and i didnt like that either go with at&t prepaids those are good [22:40] Their customer service is crap. [22:40] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] NaCl, thats the point, i got it for my grandma because she didn't want a contract [22:40] nullboy: well most need you to sign up now a days with the laws and such if your in the US anyways [22:40] Ficthe: you can map any key you want. look at xmodmap [22:40] $40 for six months service is pretty good [22:40] edman007: that's why I have one [22:40] edman007: that's pretty damn good [22:40] nullboy, and thats including the phone [22:40] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-122-12-236.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] damn! [22:41] eddief2, i had a trac phone and got service no where [22:41] If you do get one, get one of the GSM ones. [22:41] NaCl: oh yes for sure [22:41] They be a lot cheaper than the CDMA ones. Thank you Verizon, for sucking so much. [22:41] godling, alright.. on that note, does mapping the windows key to meta key seem like a good idea? [22:41] hmmm GSM phones are hard to find for prepaid unless you go to certain places [22:41] yeah [22:41] nix_chix0r, yea, it gets shitty sevrice, but its because its a cheap phone really since they all share the networks anyways [22:41] lots of people to that Ficthe [22:41] *do that [22:42] i just need a damn cellphone asap for 2 weeks to a month [22:42] n [22:42] time to hit up the 7-11 [22:42] oh, cool. thanks. I'll read up on xmodmap to figure out how to do that :) [22:42] np [22:42] edman007: the service generally works well, then again, I'm in a place that is surrounded by cell phone towers [22:42] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [22:42] virgin mobile service bites but most of them anyways are just on sprint/nextel network [22:44] NaCl, i live in a place surrounded by hilly terrain and trees [22:45] HexTasy_ (n=whippe@cpe-74-67-182-102.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:46] I'm having issues getting my kernel to boot. I suspect it's my initrd. the system will boot into my root partition just fine from CD, but when I try to boot my kernel/initrd, it stalls when it tries to mount the root partition. [22:46] edman007: That would probably make a difference. [22:47] how do I build an initrd with raid support (aac, built into the kernel) [22:47] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:48] NaCl, yea, but the good news is the town just agreed to put up a tower in town, so at least we will get service now when i go into town, but it won't help at my house because there is a rather large mass of rock and dirt between the town and my house [22:48] tried the -R tag, and it complained about me not having mdadm (because i've never used it before, wanted to make sure I'm headed in the right direction first) [22:48] HexTasy_, screw initrds, just compile a kernel with everything you need in it and don't use an initrd [22:48] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-98-244-150-60.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] edman007: heh [22:49] edman007: nothing a large ammount explosives can't fix ? ;) [22:49] edman007: lol, ok so assuming I get the kernel right I don't even need one, that's good news. [22:49] edman007: just go to your local TNT store [22:49] HexTasy_: what filesystem are you using for your root partition? [22:49] ext3 [22:50] ok, just make sure that's enabled in the kernel config, recompile kernel, don't need an initrd. [22:50] screw initrd's [22:50] Action: NaCl uses an initrd [22:50] sounds good to me [22:51] git_r_done [22:51] is jpeg2000 working/not-working/complicated-by-patents? [22:51] o_O [22:51] NaCl, BP{k} my house is at 850' alt, the hill goes up to 1100' or so...and maybe a mile over 800' would need to be cleared....a nuke won't remove that, need to start up a rock query or something [22:51] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:51] yay nuke [22:51] or a quarry, even [22:51] I mean, what? [22:51] a query won't help much [22:52] istran02 (n=erwin@119.95.133.124) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:52] /msg nuke hey come over lolz [22:52] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) left ##slackware (":wq"). [22:52] danc3, blah blah, nothing runs without queries anyways [22:52] Probably would be cheaper to hack the tower and tunnel a wire from it to the end of the hill [22:52] And make a mini-tower of sorts. [22:53] NaCl, actually, i could probably just make my own repeater at the top... [22:53] Action: edman007 wonders how long it would take the FCC to find out [22:53] edman007: screw 'em [22:54] edman007: I got your back. [22:54] The FCC is too busy worrying about the blasted digital TV stuff right now, IIRC [22:54] yes, now is the time to strike [22:54] muahahaha [22:54] NaCl, nah, they are not busy, they will just keep saying "push it back a few more days" [22:54] always putting it off... [22:55] FCC doesn't deal with that stuff really anyways it's the call centers that do [22:55] That supports the hypothesis that the FCC is lazy [22:55] NaCl: I support that hypothesis. [22:56] I have a friend that does, too. He reads data from them almost every day. [22:56] dudek (n=fee@189.111.163.200) left irc: "Leaving" [22:56] kitche, huh? no, FCC licenses the airwaves, if you build your own cell phone repeater you are operating an unlicensed station, thats something the FCC deals with directly.. [22:56] How do you say "shut the fuck up" in French? [22:56] can someone explain the purpose of shading windows for me? What's the advantage of having it shaded vs. minimized? [22:56] edman007: yes I m talking baout the digital tv thing right now [22:56] i shade them all the time [22:56] godling: that's violent. There are no words for that in the French language. [22:57] [22:57] redtricycle: you might want to take a peek behind a window without moving your mouse too far [22:57] rworkman: I thought it was funny [22:57] redtricycle: it's faster to shade and unshade because you don't have to move the mouse up and down to the taskbar. [22:57] Unless you alt-tab a lot [22:57] :) [22:57] yeah, alt-tab is my nigga [22:57] ferme te guele = stfu [22:58] er, s/te/ta [22:58] there's no way I am going to be able to pronounce that. [22:58] Thanks, though. [22:58] I remember being told what 'shut your face' in French was. [22:59] godling, i surrender [22:59] edman007: eh? [22:59] Are you French? [22:59] if you are French then you are likely to surrender. [23:00] lol [23:00] ok.. i'm a Dane... what am i likely to? [23:00] my housemate is from Cote d'Ivoirie and talks on his cell phone all the time. [23:00] very loudly [23:00] macavity: knock over lamps with your tail? [23:00] godling, the french surrender, they don't start fights [23:01] Can you guys help me remember a certain word? [23:01] Gargantua, no [23:01] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:01] :( [23:01] Gargantua: what an odd question [23:01] It's a phobia, about being afraid of people of other nationalities. [23:01] it starts with z I think [23:01] xenophobia [23:01] That will be tricky. [23:01] For sale: French rifle, never been fired, only dropped once. [23:01] Zebra! [23:01] thanks a lot man [23:01] it's pronounced with a z sound [23:01] dive++ [23:01] macavity: viking? ;) [23:02] yeah [23:02] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:02] incidently, I flubbed my 8th grade spelling bee on that word. :P [23:02] adrenaline (n=repsol@tuxhacker/adrenaline) joined ##slackware. [23:02] I will NEVER forget it. [23:02] Remember. Pillage. *Then* burn. [23:02] lol [23:02] man it feels like I get nothing done during the day oh wait I don't ...... [23:02] no no no [23:02] godling, thats aliens isn't it? or does it include humans? [23:02] Pillage, plunder, look for the woman, *then* burn [23:02] first sex .. then the bbq [23:02] mmm mongolian bbq [23:02] BP{k}: i like axes.. and my GF bathes in the freezing fiord.. does that count? :P [23:02] BP{k}: sounds right. [23:03] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:03] edman007: it means outsiders [23:03] edman007: fear of outsiders [23:03] RaeGrepus (i=ESAm5P@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [23:03] macavity: the latter part is just cause you guys haven't invented central heating right? [23:03] BP{k}: Are you sure you really wanna contract a foreign disease? :P [23:03] no.. the scary part is that she actually likes it [23:03] edman007: you're thinking of the xenophobia video game [23:03] :) [23:04] agentc0re: uhm ... well considering I am Dutch and living in the UK. How likely is that to happen ;) [23:04] LOL [23:04] godling, no, its just generally used with aliens.... [23:04] Action: edman007 looks for a latin dict that might suggest something better [23:04] illegal aliens, here in the US [23:04] They run the economy, pretty much. [23:05] NaCl: That's the popular consensus. [23:05] edman007: xeno is Greek [23:05] :( [23:05] ha fail [23:05] ;P [23:05] same thing? [23:05] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-186-2.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] Greek != Latin [23:05] close enough, i speak neither [23:05] Not really. I took 5 years of latin, and ¾­½¿Â is definitely not latin [23:06] NaCl: Don't talk about my mother! [23:06] khider (n=khider@CPE002127e9b337-CM0019474a85fc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "leaving" [23:06] illicticus platia denom des :P [23:07] I was considering translating wicd to latin, just for kicks. [23:07] how do you say "2 beers please" in latin? [23:07] "i can haz beerz?" [23:07] yay dominos on the way [23:07] you play domino? [23:08] Sounds like pizza to me. [23:08] pizza [23:08] twolf: Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam. [23:08] BP{k}: thanks [23:08] pasta, actually [23:08] BP{k}: LOL [23:08] macavity: I do play dominoes. [23:08] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:08] :D [23:08] okay technically that is "I have a catapult. Give me all your monef, or I'll fling an enormous rock at your head." but hey, it works out the same way. :) [23:08] BP{k}: i see your latin is as sharp as mine :P [23:08] I forgot all of my vocabulary. :/ [23:09] irssi needs a /latin command [23:09] what's latin for poontang? [23:09] tangpoon [23:09] lol [23:09] vagina? sounds latin to me... [23:09] angtay poonay [23:09] oonpay [23:09] pusstina [23:10] what declension do you want it in? nominative? [23:10] yeah oonpay [23:10] Atinlay != Igpay Atinlay [23:10] NaCl: tu madre! [23:10] anyway, believe it or not.. vagina *is* vagina in latin [23:10] Action: NaCl devours godling's soul [23:10] vagina dentata [23:10] that's fun to say [23:10] it's actually vaginus erectus [23:10] I prefer mine al dente [23:11] vaginus erectuse al dente, mmm [23:11] this looks like an AOL chat room now [23:11] haha [23:11] /aol hi there [23:11] dive: no. [23:11] ;) [23:11] heh [23:11] lostnhell (n=Unknown@ip68-10-157-152.hr.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] that's way to civilised for an aol chat room. ;) [23:12] hehe [23:12] that's before translation [23:12] Anybody here know what the word 'network' is in latin? [23:12] nullboy: ever see the movie teeth? [23:12] BP{k}: your latin is sharper than mine, a lot of the vocabulary I once knew is gone ;) [23:12] psychicist: hah! you mean "my copy and paste skills are good" ;) [23:12] psychicist: wtf are you doing up at 5am? [23:12] ollorcay youray acebookfay inway inkpay [23:12] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] macavity: fail [23:13] macavity: indeed [23:13] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:14] BP{k}: my schedule's been a bit mixed up lately, days have become nights and vice versa. I'm going to change that ASAP, of course ;) [23:14] of course ;) [23:14] psychicist: remember .. dawn is only natures way of telling you to get some sleep ;) [23:15] ethay oddessgay ofway ethay internetway ashay ooketcray ingersfay andway away oicevay ikelay away avelinjay inway ethay ightnay [23:15] godling: nope [23:15] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [23:15] Action: BP{k} stabs macavity in the kidneys with a blunt spoon. [23:16] nullboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH8yuld4DUE [23:16] Much of the violence I have seen on ##slackware or #slackbuilds has been related to stabbing [23:17] BP{k}: running fortune through pig is rather amusing :P [23:17] macavity: as per usual, you seem to have an strange sense of humour ;) [23:18] ORLY? [23:19] no that's in France. [23:19] O_o [23:19] lostnhell (n=Unknown@ip68-10-157-152.hr.hr.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:19] macavity: your pig latin really blows. fyi. [23:19] :) [23:19] Seems like it was automatically generated [23:19] heheh [23:20] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-94.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:20] BP{k}: fortune | rev | pig > ROT13 :P [23:20] macavity: http://tinyurl.com/bvzeku [23:20] macavity: hehe [23:20] I sense a quest unfolding [23:20] WUUURD! [23:20] BP{k}+++ [23:22] BP{k}: I think I'm making progress. I'm planning to get some sleep in a few minutes instead of 8 in the morning, as I did the last few days ;) [23:24] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: [23:26] dissocia2ive (n=dissocia@190.28.166.255) left irc: "leaving" [23:27] 1 scotch or 1 beer for a headcold? [23:27] scotch [23:27] 2 [23:28] very sound medical advice, thank you! [23:29] 1 bourbon, 1 scotch, and 1 beer [23:29] In that order? [23:29] http://www.lyricsdownload.com/george-thorogood-1-bourbon-1-scotch-1-beer-lyrics.html [23:30] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-186-2.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:30] that's a good song [23:30] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-186-2.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] NaCl: if you get the order wrong you have to start over... so you better not get it right the first time around :P [23:31] That's an awesome song [23:32] lol [23:33] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: ":*" [23:34] qwaza (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [23:34] Lots of George Thorogood's stuff is great. [23:35] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-186-2.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:35] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:37] Guest1740878011 (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [23:39] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("consume till you are content, then consume till you are incoherent, then listen to the tales the next day ;)"). [23:39] rworkman: I like John Lee Hooker's version of that song. [23:40] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:41] Oldway Ogiefay! :-) [23:41] ellohay acavitymay :) [23:42] Old_Fogie: fortune | pig [23:42] Old_Fogie: or for the absolytely hardcore: fortune | rev | pig [23:42] hahaha [23:43] The only issue I have with Thorogood is that all his songs.. sound exactly the same... [23:43] at least close [23:43] either he's drinking.. or someone else is drinking.. or he's too drunk to drink so he sings. [23:44] I fail to see the problem. :) [23:44] mbhayes, 'beer,bars,n broads' (pick the order best for you) that's 'the blues' my friend [23:44] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:45] heh [23:45] I'd like to see Metallica sing "One scotch, one bourbon, one beer" [23:46] faffi_ (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:46] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [23:47] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [23:47] hell yeah [23:48] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:54] Gatto (n=hearl@host80-67-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [23:55] masterx831 (n=masterx8@97.104.48.72) joined ##slackware. [23:57] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [23:59] hi * [23:59] not quite yet but soon [00:00] --- Mon Feb 23 2009