[00:03] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:04] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:06] mwnn (n=user@59.96.204.166) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:07] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:09] Patero-ng (n=Basura@174-23-29-169.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:09] hello [00:10] is there a secure excel viewer for linux [00:10] DJ_DEXTER (n=Dark_X@gentoo/user/dj-dexter) left irc: "Gentoo Is Shutdown!!! xD" [00:12] tuvok302Lappy (i=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-149.dial.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:12] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [00:14] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [00:14] ehm, define "secure", as it applies to an excel file viewer? [00:14] not being sarcastic, I really don't know anything about excel, no idea what would make it insecure [00:15] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:17] Kamel (n=1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:19] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [00:19] tweak_ (n=tweak@c-67-183-76-199.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:21] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-142-68.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [00:24] Paterno-ng,you mean like password protected xls files [00:27] I mean like open source viewer [00:27] and avoids malicous codes [00:27] you tell me [00:30] I moved all my secure sensity stuff to linux [00:30] and starting doing the transition from windows xp [00:30] the computer only has linux and nothing more cuz I noticed you can access all root files from windows since root permissiors are not effective on xp [00:30] "malicious codes" meaning something like embedded javascript or VBA? or meaning something like spreadsheet cells that overflow a fixed buffer and execute arbitrary machine code? [00:30] wtf? [00:31] This has got to be a troll attempt. [00:31] Patero-ng: Unless you are encrypting the filesystem you are screwed. [00:31] I need an excel viewer since cna't find it on linux and I been using xp until rencelty for important data [00:32] and that only helps against an offline attack anyway. [00:32] Patero-ng: tried openoffice.org? [00:32] can I only get the excel portion [00:32] I can change doc to html or rtf but excel need excel viewer [00:32] Patero-ng, open office [00:33] I'll check it [00:33] and you can change excel to csv (comma separated values) but usually open office works [00:33] http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/ [00:33] you can find packages there ^^ [00:33] or slackbuilds [00:33] ? [00:33] there's no "build" about it, it's a binary repackage [00:33] but i bet rworkman maintains that one so you might as well download one thing not two [00:34] SBO method: download, download, unpack, check script, run, install package [00:34] I want open source [00:34] I even check the code out [00:34] rworkman repo method: download, install [00:34] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:34] Patero-ng, open office is open source, just that compiling it is a royal pain [00:35] Patero-ng: you wanna look through the source of openoffice? be our guest...you'll still be looking at it 10 years from now [00:35] apparently is kinda hevy [00:35] I just want excel viewer [00:35] i don't get people's aversion to packages, to be quite honest. if two machines download the same source tarball and compile with the same options (SBo for example) it's going to result in the same binary files [00:35] then do like we recommended and download open office and install [00:35] tweakx (n=tweak@c-67-183-76-199.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:36] excel viewer is 5MB on xp [00:36] Action: Delahunt is getting irritated [00:37] ok I can check hush numbors [00:37] that way I know is open office aproved [00:37] oy gevalt [00:37] give me options [00:37] open office requieres java my pc is slow [00:37] Patero-ng: go to www.gnu.org and talk to RMS [00:37] Patero-ng: option 1: leave now [00:37] need something light [00:37] hahah [00:38] Scuzz: what? [00:38] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [00:38] antiwire: made me spit out my juice [00:38] Patero-ng: As the suggestions note - for non-slackware or slackbuild support, might want to look somewhere else [00:38] Scuzz: he's annoying me, but his speech sounds like RMS, for real [00:38] lol [00:38] who is rms [00:38] like marilyn manson? [00:39] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-143-133.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:39] Patero-ng: has anyone told you that you suck at this yet? [00:39] fwiw, ms excel viewer worx great in wine... [00:39] Patero-ng: well, RMS and marilyn manson have one thing in common, but likely just one thing [00:39] Patero-ng: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_M._Stallman <- let me wikify that for you [00:39] (1)google xls reader linux ... (2)try and compile..if fail,goto (1) [00:39] Back in my day, trollin' actually meant something. [00:39] nyRednek: they're both loosely classified with the human race? [00:40] alisonken1noc: they're both atheist [00:40] well, I wouldn't classify M.M. as an atheist considering his music choices :) [00:40] alisonken1noc: i'm not sure i consider marilyn manson as human [00:41] thus the term "loosely" [00:41] alisonken1noc: yeah, listen to an interview [00:42] an excess of mind expanding drugs [00:43] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [00:43] hello [00:43] does anyone know how i can configure apache to not use medium and weak ssl ciphers? [00:43] alisonken1noc: he puts forward an overtly atheist and anti-religious ideology with each album and each interview [00:44] ezrafree: try /join #apache and ask there? [00:44] ezrafree: hmmm...google knows the answer [00:44] nyRednek: does that make me somewhat less than human? [00:44] does marilyn manson actually have a point to make, or is he just trying to see how many people he can piss off at once? (or both? I really haven't paid much attention) [00:45] my guess would be both [00:45] nyRednek: i've been googling this and trying different solutions for over two months now [00:45] Urchlay: i think it's a bit of both [00:45] Urchlay: a little from column a, a little from column b [00:45] alisonken1noc: also been trying in #apache for just as long [00:45] the point being how many people he can antagonize enough to buy his stuff for refutation purposes [00:45] eviljames: depends, how many body modifications have you performed? [00:45] nyRednek: more than 1. [00:46] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:46] eviljames: not counting tattoos and piercings, btw [00:46] zero [00:46] eviljames: you're human [00:47] ah, so Manson is too. [00:47] here's what i've been trying in apache: [00:47] SSLProtocol -all +SSLv3 [00:47] SSLCipherSuite SSLv3:HIGH:!MEDIUM:!EXP:!aNULL [00:47] eviljames: not really...iirc, his eyes are permanently that way now [00:47] nope. [00:48] it's all smoke and mirrors, amigo. [00:48] it's in the wrist [00:48] coke and mirrors? [00:48] Urchlay: lots of that, too. [00:48] lots and lots. and lots. [00:48] Urchlay: ding! [00:48] ... and lots. I probably can't begin to express the volume of manson's coke and mirrors habit [00:49] remember seeing his mug on smoking gun http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/mmanson1.html [00:49] free_fox (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:49] the only thing I really know about manson, saw him on one of those "I love the 70s" specials. He was going on about how, when he found out Freddie Mercury (of Queen) was gay, he was totally shocked & surprised [00:50] which would make him, what, the only person on the planet who couldn't tell already? [00:50] Urchlay: what surprises a lot of americans, so was john wayne [00:50] Urchlay, hate to think what he would think of Pete Burns..:) [00:51] john wayne didn't act "flaming" in public though, he was strictly in the closet. Freddie Mercury... go watch some old Queen videos on youtube :) [00:51] Urchlay: he was obvious [00:51] Urchlay: more obvious than elton john [00:51] my understanding was rock hudson, not john wayne [00:51] back [00:51] alisonken1noc: both, actually [00:51] I don't wanna use google any more [00:51] xlr viewer [00:51] don't u know already [00:51] I need advice I don't want to install spam [00:52] and what do you consider spam? [00:52] spamware [00:52] ya gmail [00:52] like [00:53] they know the address of people I meet online like it shows up their address on a ad bar and it says want to pin point her exact location [00:53] interesting, since I don't get spamware when I use google mail, I get more spam from my other email providers [00:53] Patero-ng: you know...you really need to go see for yourself...asking us questions like that show that you have neither understanding nor motivation to learn [00:54] you dont' have to receive a non solicited email that's 1 way of spam [00:54] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:54] also waht google does showing help tips u don't need like they know ur preferces [00:54] cuz they have cookies on most sites that they shouldn't care about [00:54] then stay away from them and stop complaining here [00:55] I want peoiepl to be aware [00:55] this is what I live [00:55] the problem is you're becoming part of the spam on this channel since this is slackware support, not raise your awareness of spam cooking [00:55] I want people to spell properly not to mention do Amelia Warner, it's an imperfect world .. get used to it [00:56] someone told me to install excel viewer from wine [00:56] that'll be installing a microsoft product on my system infecting its pureness [00:56] ok I wont' go on with my terroric [00:56] Patero-ng: use the enter key less, or I'm going to remove your tinfoil hat. [00:56] retoric* [00:56] lol [00:56] rworkman: heh...you sure you can accomplish that feat? [00:57] rhetoric I believe is what you're looking for [00:57] If you're going to yammer on and on about useless shit that nobody gives a rat's ass about, at least keep it on as few lines as possible. [00:57] nyRednek: yes. :) [00:57] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [00:57] Action: nyRednek bows to rworkman's greatness [00:57] I want to help [00:57] is a real issue we have regarding privacy [00:57] Patero-ng: and like the government, your help isn't. [00:58] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:58] the zionists is my problem [00:58] then try #tinfoilhatsociety - remember, this is ##slackware [00:58] I am talking about thte itnernet here [00:58] Patero-ng: your problem is that you don't know when to shut your piehole. [00:58] and we're talking slackware here [00:58] Patero-ng: let's talk about these zionists...exactly what is your issue with them? [00:58] this concerus us too [00:58] btw my fav serarch engine now is answers.com [00:58] nyRednek: move _that_ conversation to ##slackofftopic [00:58] Yes. [00:59] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [00:59] alisonken1noc: i'm not going to infect my favorite offtopic with that drek [00:59] oh man , now we have to go through this crap again [00:59] nyRednek: then start a new channel and move it ther [00:59] e [00:59] those people just do jokes [00:59] they think am ranting or troling [00:59] we should do something like fairnessdoctrine [00:59] rworkman: is your open office only version for slackware? [00:59] alisonken1noc: i just want to see what kind of rabid animal this guy is before he gets the war hammer from an op [01:00] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [01:00] ##slackware: mode change '+b %Patero-ng!*@*' by rworkman!i=3356@about/slackware/rworkman [01:00] Patero-ng (n=Basura@174-23-29-169.slkc.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [01:00] nyRednek: then you missed the last week's worth of chatter [01:00] There, that's more fair. [01:00] ##slackware: mode change '-o rworkman' by rworkman!i=3356@about/slackware/rworkman [01:00] alisonken1noc: yeah, i missed it [01:00] pupit: eh? [01:00] heh [01:01] rworkman: I didn't look in SB though.. [01:01] I was making pancakes.. [01:01] alisonken1noc: i was basically seeing if he was as bad as jeev or not [01:01] pupit: my script is at SBo, and it's the one I use to build my package [01:01] well, let's just say they appear to be related [01:01] rworkman: oh, ok thanks [01:02] well now that i saw a ban on irc for the first time in months back to gaming [01:02] But jeev is sensible at least. [01:02] juice: you missed a few this last week [01:02] i'm sure [01:02] i have missed irc for about 6 months [01:02] dang addicting game [01:02] I've had quite a few discussions with him privately, and while I don't always agree with him, he's at least not drinking *all* of the koolaid :) [01:02] haha [01:02] what time is needed to build open office with sb script? [01:02] rworkman: by what satandards? [01:03] pupit: not much; it just repacks the official binary [01:03] nyRednek: mine :) [01:04] Well, I've got to hit the sack. 0600 comes early. [01:04] rworkman: hmmm...well, in my experience, he seems to have drunk enough of the kool aid to be useless [01:04] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:04] rworkman: and i think he, along with the guy you just kicked, deserves to win a darwin award, tbh [01:04] U2 (i=1000@59.103.207.51) joined ##slackware. [01:04] google made him that way [01:05] Scuzz: i got your response in the offtopic [01:05] Nick change: U2 -> alreadygone [01:06] rworkman: thanks [01:06] what's "kool aid" [01:06] he made himself that way [01:06] pupit: jim jones reference [01:07] no no no... now I have to wiki jim jones... [01:07] while you're googling, look up jonestown massacre [01:09] sometimes its impossible to follow you guys.. google this word, google that word.. :) [01:09] hah [01:09] damn, he probably didn't have slackware installed huh ? [01:09] we could say links that word :) [01:09] I'll keep up eventually... [01:09] or lynx's [01:10] that's what the kool aid statement is referring to [01:11] pupit: usually that means it's either a dead-simple problem or non-slackware related [01:11] yep [01:11] pupit: drinking the kool aid is what jim jones's followers did [01:11] so rabid a follower that they believe and do whatever the massa says [01:11] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [01:11] and I remember the news when that story broke [01:12] alisonken1noc: i was born that year, so i can't remember it [01:12] alisonken1noc: I know that, but im curios what's kool aid or so.. [01:13] pupit: in other words, they're ingesting what is put in front of them, however poisonous it may be [01:13] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:13] kookaid is the tm brand of powdered drink that we all grew up with - but jones has forever changed the term [01:13] nyRednek: oh I got it.. [01:13] pupit: jim jones's followers drank cyanide-laced kool aid [01:13] I don't know all the slang words.. just that.. [01:14] pupit: i remember breaking that one in to a new generation at FEGS, telling a guy "shut up and drink the fscking kool aid" [01:14] nyRednek: I don't wanna hear anymore... making my stewie griffin face.. [01:14] You look at the negative side of that. Try looking at it from this point of view: "Damn, How was he able to get them to do that?" [01:15] nyRednek: :) [01:15] pupit: needless to say, it took me an hour to explain it to the room [01:15] antiwire: some minds are very simple to taught [01:15] pupit: the guy i told it to had just gotten out of riker's [01:15] nyRednek: I believe you :) [01:16] riker's? some liquor store? jail? [01:16] nyRednek, right into the 21st century? culture shock? [01:16] high-security prison [01:16] pupit: riker's island...the new york city lockup [01:16] pupit: [01:17] oh... [01:17] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] so, what's the difference between the words jail and prison? [01:17] jail is small, prison is big? [01:18] pupit: depends on which side of the tracks you're from [01:18] jail is nothing , prison means your screwd [01:18] but the cliffnotes version is jail is for punishment and prison is for rehabiliation [01:18] haha [01:18] pupit: jail is for minor crimes and awaiting trial...prison is once you're convicted of a felony [01:18] jail is usually people waiting to get into prison [01:18] alisonken1noc: oh I got it! [01:19] I got it now ;) thanks guys [01:19] pupit: you go to jail for public drunkenness...you go to prison for rape [01:19] county lockup v. hard time [01:19] I was never in prison [01:20] nor jail [01:20] pupit, prison sometimes is referred to as penitary [01:20] i've been to the russian compound [01:20] but that wasn't here in the states [01:20] I was in the navy :) [01:20] alisonken1noc: i went straight from the russian compound to the army [01:20] s/penitary/Penitentiary [01:20] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [01:20] nyRednek: russian , like zatvor :) [01:21] pupit: no, the russian compound, a prison that is on the grounds of the former russian embassy in israel [01:22] ouh [01:23] I can't imagine slackware user to be a rapist... [01:23] pupit: i was a bad boy when i was younger [01:23] pupit: no, i was in for attempted murder...beat a guy with a steel rubbish bin [01:23] nyRednek: your kidding right? [01:24] urthwrm (n=hooch@unaffiliated/urthwrm) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:24] pupit: no, not kidding [01:24] s/your/you're [01:24] no, not kidding [01:24] why did you wanted to do that? [01:24] guy pissed of for something? [01:24] pupit: he attacked my little brother [01:25] pupit: i made him regret it [01:25] sh** happens everywhere [01:25] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.59.14) joined ##slackware. [01:25] pupit: that was a while ago [01:26] bond between brothers is strong [01:26] between sisters vary.. [01:26] pupit: and now i haven't seen my brother in over a year [01:27] _Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.47.196) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:27] but he is ok? [01:27] pupit: yeah, he's fine...working in nebraska bringing a power plant up [01:27] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.78.49) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:28] well ok then [01:28] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.59.57) joined ##slackware. [01:29] his wife, i've met once...i wish they'd head east, but i doubt that'll happen [01:29] yuu are fine, he is fine.. [01:29] we are fine [01:29] right? :) [01:29] Channel flood from pupit -- kicking [01:29] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rK3s_BP9kE [01:29] pupit kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [01:30] pupit (n=p@109.93.234.170) joined ##slackware. [01:30] still learning - a couple of more whacks with the hammer and he may remember [01:30] http://www.the389.com/works/tenori/ [01:30] yeah, we're fine... [01:30] :) [01:36] hmm [01:36] i want good food right now [01:36] I've got a pastrami sandwich :) [01:36] pastrami is too fatty for me [01:36] i hate the feeling of fat [01:37] boogery fat slinging around [01:37] reminds me of thrice's mom [01:37] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.127.179) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:38] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "Bored by the chore of saving face." [01:39] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3814, sources date: 20091222, built on: 2010-01-09 17:48:42 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/" [01:41] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [01:41] if only jim jones were able to round up *all* the degenerates [01:44] el reg: "Wrists playing up? you're shagging too much. Missionary position fingered for carpal tunnel syndrome" [01:44] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:44] shall we shag now or shag later [01:45] daidoji (n=daidoji7@adsl-99-27-128-66.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:47] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.59.14) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:47] have to ask the wife first :) [01:47] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [01:47] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [01:51] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-29.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:55] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:56] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:58] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-17-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[02:45] dudu (n=dudu@dudu.ro) left irc: Client Quit [02:46] cli_ (n=cherife@114.251.86.0) joined ##slackware. [02:46] cli_ (n=cherife@114.251.86.0) left irc: Client Quit [02:47] slava_dp, able to resolve the issue with gigolo? [02:47] MLanden, nope, still nothing. [02:47] cherife (n=cherife@114.251.86.0) joined ##slackware. [02:47] does it work for you? [02:48] I just did a load of current updates and seem to have lost icons in kde - deleted .kde and did do a install-new but still have problem. Any ideas? [02:48] slackpkg install-new [02:49] did that [02:49] oxygen package is now separate [02:49] yes I know [02:49] dive, http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/gtk-icons-suddenly-missing/ [02:49] slava_dp, kde icons [02:49] and buttons [02:49] then it's the oxygen package [02:49] slava_dp, no [02:49] bad dive ;) [02:50] I install oxygeb [02:50] grrrrr [02:50] oxygen [02:50] can't type in the dark [02:50] but did you update the mime database, for a chance? [02:50] it's in /var/log/packages/oxygen-icons-4.3.4-x86_64-1 ? [02:50] and what slava_dp said [02:51] MLanden, maybe it just needs gnome-vfs. [02:51] wouldn't the reboot update mime db? [02:51] the shared-mime-info issue was solved right away anyway. look at the doinst.sh [02:51] it was a problem with the previous build [02:51] dive: that would update the global mime but not the local mime [02:51] ah? [02:52] is this -current? [02:52] yes [02:52] update-mime-database /usr/share/mime v. ~/.local/share/mime [02:52] how does one update the local mime db? [02:52] ah ok thanks [02:52] it's in the wiki :) [02:52] the doinst.sh runs this automagically [02:53] let me guess, there won't be a slack 13.1 [02:53] sahk0: for /usr/share/mime - not ~/.local/share/mime [02:53] it'll jump right to slack 14 [02:53] alisonken1noc: no, local too [02:53] nyRednek: why? [02:53] sahk0: it goes through _every_ user account on your box? [02:54] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware64-current/source/l/shared-mime-info/doinst.sh.gz [02:54] alisonken1noc: exactly [02:54] nyRednek, i guess there will be slack 13.1 just because Pat will want to ship it with the current xorg and then update xorg for 14.0. [02:54] hackeron_ (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [02:54] slava_dp: ok... [02:54] slava_dp, with 13.0 GSB it works...but without,it's hit or miss [02:54] personally I don't see enough big changes yet for a 14.0 [02:54] sahk0: ah - thanks. need alien to update his wiki then [02:55] http://www.fmylife.com/love/159600#c_212671 [02:55] haha [02:55] DIVORACE [02:55] cherife (n=cherife@114.251.86.0) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:55] MLanden, ok, so it's a gnome-biased app... it works but it doesn't :) [02:55] in that case why didn't it update my mime db? [02:55] alisonken1noc: well, it was a problem at the time which was solved almost right away but some people got that [02:55] dive: which -current did you upgrade to? [02:56] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:56] cherife (n=cherife@114.251.86.0) joined ##slackware. [02:57] alisonken1noc, 32 bit [02:57] anyway I'll switch it on later and have a look at a manual mime update [02:58] hmmm - I upgraded tuesday to -current and didn't have that issue once I ran install-new [02:58] but I'm on 64-current [02:59] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [02:59] slava_dp, with gnome-mime-data needed with gnome-vfs..pretty much,yes [03:01] (##slackware) Channel ban on %Patero-ng!*@* expired. [03:01] ##slackware: mode change '-b %Patero-ng!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [03:08] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:08] jg71_ (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) joined ##slackware. [03:11] arrrgh, dirty guitar pots are killing me [03:12] damn guitar is glued together, no way to get at the #@#$#@^#^ knobs to clean 'em [03:13] hfjardim (n=hfjardim@78.150.198.29) left irc: "?" [03:13] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:14] Urchlay, knobs jamming tight? [03:15] MLanden, i'm building the gnome deps for gigolo, will see how it goes. [03:16] slava_dp, 12.2 right? [03:16] yep [03:16] no, they turn freely, and they do control the volume, but when you turn them they go *skrrk-scratch*... and if you try to leave them anywhere but 0 or 10, they occasionally make the same noise if you *don't* turn them [03:17] just need to shoot some contact cleaner in there, but there's no damn way to do it (the potentiometer bodies are inside the guitar, which is glued together) [03:17] Urchlay,dammit [03:18] if I were playing thru a regular amp or board, I could leave both volumes at 10 and I'd be fine... but when plugged into my sound card, they need to stay around 7 [03:18] and because of the dirt/crap on the wipers, they make noise while I'm playing, which gets recorded :( [03:19] guess this guitar was made to be disposable [03:19] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:19] slava_dp, good luck [03:20] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:21] hasansahin (i=c3218136@gateway/web/freenode/x-dpcqccyeellcjwvp) joined ##slackware. [03:21] i'm in love with wicd, it's the most handiest tool for laptop networking. now I'd like to find my love for accessing remote network shares. this thing would come very handy. [03:21] hello [03:21] hasansahin, wazzup [03:21] anybody know of a way to filter out all sportsrelated articles on the web? [03:22] uhmmm [03:22] kslen, specify "sport" "football" etc. as adblock plus filters? :-) [03:22] don't read them? [03:22] slava_dp, hum. :D [03:22] do you know of a way to filter out all the pr0n on the web? [03:23] excellent point. [03:23] hasansahin (i=c3218136@gateway/web/freenode/x-dpcqccyeellcjwvp) left ##slackware. [03:23] lol....in 2010? [03:23] heya MLanden, how's it going? [03:23] slava_dp: unplug dsl/cable/whatever, no more pr0n :) [03:23] hey subsumption's|napoos [03:23] fire|bird, going good...yourself? [03:23] Urchlay, :-) [03:23] err, you know [03:24] MLanden: great, thank you. :) [03:24] fire|bird: I'm on the wrong machine, don't have my nick-generator [03:25] how about... dirty|pots [03:25] Urchlay: shame on you, you should have that on a USB drive that's with you at all times. :P [03:25] haha [03:25] good enough [03:25] fire|bird, you should make nick-generator-as-a-service online. [03:26] lol,Urchlay....'bout as bad as dead|black_keys ...:( [03:30] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.72.191) joined ##slackware. [03:30] fire|bird, have to agree with slava_dp..just make the questionaire simple and precise..:) [03:30] lol [03:31] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-84.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:32] MLanden, it doesn't work even with gnome-vfs. damn. [03:33] Action: slava_dp has no means to access shares still :( [03:33] All your shares are belong to me. [03:33] Action: slava_dp has big hopes for the kde4's dolphin when he upgrades. [03:34] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:34] slava_dp: What are you looking for it to day, dolphin that is? [03:35] i just need an easy way to access windblows and sftp and ftp shares. dolphin in kde4 can do that i think, but i'm on 12.2 still. [03:35] dolphin is ok - allows sftp access to remotes just like 3.5 version of kfilemanager [03:35] i had hopes that gigolo would do that on xfce. [03:36] smb4k does not really work for me too. it connects one time out of 10. [03:41] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.72.40) joined ##slackware. [03:41] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.72.191) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:42] slava_dp, what 'bout gftp? [03:42] i need smb primarily. [03:43] kidpunkx in #linuxsociety is having a port forwarding issue. so what does he do? posts his root password and asks for help [03:43] hahaha [03:43] "I trust everyone here" - on an open channel [03:43] haha [03:43] lol [03:43] He's been in here before too. [03:43] yep [03:44] I believe the "Kid" portion of his nick pretty much says it all [03:45] i bet he got a couple dozen connections to his box instantly :) [03:49] Reaver (n=User@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:49] fire|bird, one of the big time distro hoppers? [03:50] well, he has a problem with his home router - which he hasn't specified what it is or whether it's a home linux box yet [03:50] MLanden: haha, I've distro hopped plenty of times since I started with Linux ages ago. At the moment, this desktop has openSUSE and slackware, second Desktop has Arch, and laptop has openSUSE. :P [03:51] Action: slava_dp has slackware on all his computers. [03:52] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [03:52] Action: alisonken1noc has slackware on all computers he controls - except work :) [03:53] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:53] fire|bird, but you know how to ./configure && make && make install DESTDIR=/tmp/packages...cd /tmp/packages..(making sure to check package)...makepkg -l y -c n ../packages-(whatevernumberyoulike).tgz(or txz)..:) [03:53] MLanden: lol, indeed. :) [03:55] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.14.116) joined ##slackware. [03:55] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.14.116) left irc: Client Quit [03:56] whoops..forgot to tack a --prefix=/usr etc. etc. etc. behind that ./configure..:D [03:56] lol [03:57] you fail [03:57] :P [03:57] what sucks about distro-hopping is you end up becoming an expert in reinstalling instead of using [03:57] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-31-134.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [03:57] fire|bird, :P [03:57] MrJacks0n (n=MrJackso@173-86-6-24.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:58] MLanden: Have you ever tried arch? [03:58] Urchlay, true...without wading in the water...how can one get to the gold at the bottom? [03:58] that's a really nice distro to tinker with. [03:58] slackware == gold ;) [03:58] fire|bird, from time to time [03:59] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:00] fire|bird, that's how I started messing with lxde when PCMan released it [04:02] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [04:02] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [04:02] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:05] Later everyone, take care. [04:05] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:06] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [04:07] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-24-112.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:08] gutts (n=gutts@213.162.50.61) joined ##slackware. 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[04:48] connected as in ? [04:48] as in pinging them return a response [04:48] pining the broadcast adress should do the trick [04:49] What's the broadcast address? The gateway IP? [04:49] x.x.x.255 [04:50] for standard local IP 192.168.0.x = 192.168.0.255 [04:50] are you using dhcp or manual IP assignment for your computer? [04:50] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:51] later,folks...talk with all later [04:51] dhcpc [04:51] Ah.. [04:51] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-141-152-185-224.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:51] so ping -b 172.16.255.255 [04:52] ifconfig eth1 gives me the broadcast IP...is that the one I ping? [04:52] errr... this advice is good and all... but why not just use nmap? [04:52] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [04:53] ywaa [04:53] yess [04:53] nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24 [04:54] Oh, wow. [04:54] yuh. [04:54] What does the /24 do? [04:54] specifies the netmask [04:54] coooooooooooooooooooool [04:55] /24 means .0.0 to .0.255 [04:55] ah...and if I want [04:55] /32 means just .0.0 [04:55] 1.0 to 1.255? [04:55] what's that? [04:55] 192.168.1.0/24 [04:55] if you wanted 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255 then 192.168.0.0/16 [04:56] ...how do I look it up? [04:56] it's not in the manpage [04:56] for future reference [04:56] its called subnetting [04:56] and its a complex topic [04:56] redtricycle: that's standard IP networking 101 [04:56] google subnetting and subnet calculators [04:56] google is your friend [04:57] ah, okies [04:59] nachow (n=a@122-124-135-229.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:00] hmmm - only 255 hosts responded on my network :) [05:00] of course, 92% of them are ps's [05:00] (private virtual servers) [05:01] 'night all! thanks alisonken1noc & Zordrak [05:02] Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (225 hosts up) scanned in 6.77 seconds [05:05] well, at least you don't waste IPs :P [05:06] Action: Zordrak runs a /20 [05:07] windows runs around looking for its mum in 96.0->99.0 and all the normal stuff lives static in 100>111 [05:07] err 99.254 [05:07] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:08] Action: alisonken1noc runs multiple /22's [05:08] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.193) joined ##slackware. [05:15] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@97-127-210-186.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:16] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@97-127-215-120.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [05:16] cherife (n=cherife@114.251.86.0) left irc: "Bye" [05:16] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.32.20) joined ##slackware. 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[05:44] hiptobecubic: actually there's work for that ;-) [05:44] s/for/on/ [05:45] use the -T key for nmap, speeds it up tremendously. like, nmap -sP -T5 192.168.0.0/24 [05:45] multithreaded tar and gz would be nice :) try tarballing 50GB on a SPARC solaris box with 32 cores, not one of them more powerful than my fingernail [05:45] Camarade_Tux, sure, but i need to compress something today :) Also 7zip in windows still doesn't handle .xz apparently. Isn't xz just lzma or something? [05:45] yes xz is lzma [05:45] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.32.20) left irc: "Leaving" [05:45] hiptobecubic: you could try pxz but I don't guarantee anything about it [05:45] it's lzma v4, 7-zip is lzma v3. [05:46] not even that you can extract the archive once it has been compressed =) [05:46] slava_dp, ah ok. I wasn't sure abuot any of it. thanks [05:46] Have any of you seen that news story about RockYou.com being hacked and the 30million + passwords being exposed? [05:47] They were on the servers in cleartext o.O [05:47] hiptobecubic: http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/pxz/ [05:47] Camarade_Tux, not much good if it's not reliable, but thanks :) [05:47] This list is hilarious. The things people use for a password blows me away. [05:49] hiptobecubic: but you can try just for fun ;-) [05:49] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [05:52] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-dryrmooqlvqqpqsx) joined ##slackware. [05:55] the fsck [05:55] is facebook hosted on freenode [05:55] they both die about as often as each other [05:58] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [05:59] Action: Delahunt has no problems here [06:01] hiptobecubic: seems pxz is actually quite reliable [06:01] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.60.76) joined ##slackware. [06:01] and well, its code is only 400 LOCs [06:01] LOCs? [06:02] "Lines of Code" ? [06:02] yup [06:02] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.119.11) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:02] and 300 "useful" lines [06:02] that's pretty amazing [06:02] it's not written in ocaml is it? :p [06:02] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.96.143.186) joined ##slackware. [06:02] hiptobecubic: nah ^^ [06:03] hiptobecubic: it's using xz under the hood, it's only about getting parallel compression [06:03] and as you can see on its homepage, compression lowers as the number of threads increases [06:03] it's pretty straight-forward actually [06:06] fingers crossed for a trouble-free FF upgrade... [06:07] xD [06:07] Woo! [06:07] Eeweww [06:07] hiptobecubic: pxz compressed my /usr from 2.6GB to 474MB in 10 minutes [06:07] took up to 3.6GB of ram though [06:08] Shit.. i nearly shat me kecks.. as soon as the 3.6 page opened i inadvertently mouned-over a harry potter persona and it previewed it.... i thought it was the new default skin [06:09] *moused-over [06:16] dru1d (n=dru1d@ip-82-177-172-217.net.azartsat.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:16] tweak_ (n=tweak@c-67-183-76-199.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:28] aw man i hate graphics customisations... i can never decide what i want... nothing ever just shouts "Use me!" [06:29] except the KDE4 Colorado Farm background [06:29] Zordrak: that's why I go for black, grey20 and white ;-) [06:29] Zordrak, i took a photo here in japan you might like [06:29] looked for a slackware one.. but the two that are there are shite [06:30] can we finally remove the menu bar in ff 3.6? [06:30] god i hope not [06:30] what is this, office 2007? [06:30] why? ='( [06:31] I haven't said "move it", I said "*re*move it" ;-) [06:31] the menu bar i-s where the menus are [06:31] orite [06:31] no .. thats right.. it shouldnt be removedh [06:31] I don't have window decorations, a menu bar like in office would be terrible for me ;-) [06:31] takes too much space and I don't use it ;-) [06:32] Zordrak, want to see it? [06:32] Delahunt: meh [06:32] Goliath (n=goliath@unaffiliated/goliath) joined ##slackware. [06:32] hi [06:33] which is the default mode for my wifi (iwconfig wlan0 mode) [06:33] master , managed, adhoc or what [06:33] to connect to access point [06:33] its YOUR wifi. you tell us. [06:33] Zordrak, http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/images/dsc02011.jpg [06:33] does anyone here know what the variable PS2 holds for zsh? [06:33] Zordrak, http://www.puresimplicity.net/~delahunt/images/dsc02012.jpg [06:33] if you like colorado farm these should be at least a little appealing [06:34] so? [06:34] Reticenti: my $PS2 has '>' (without the quotes) [06:34] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [06:34] Camarade_Tux: but what does it do? [06:34] ah, misread [06:34] rather, misunderstood, and don't know :-) [06:35] Goliath (n=goliath@unaffiliated/goliath) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:35] ^^ [06:35] secondary prompt string i think [06:35] maybe, but I never ever see it [06:36] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.96.143.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:38] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.105.220) joined ##slackware. [06:39] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [06:41] Reticenti, Camarade_Tux it's for when you have a command continuing on more than one line... such as an unfinished string in quotes [06:42] ah [06:42] Nick change: zecafig -> zecasmoke [06:42] " will show you [06:42] ah, yes, i see [06:42] hiptobecubic: ah, right, I remember now, thanks :-) [06:42] hat about ps3/4? [06:42] s/hat/what [06:43] not familiar with them, i only set ps{1,2} on mine [06:45] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:45] really glad to see what theyve done with the cold-start performance in 3.6 [06:45] 3.6 what? [06:45] firefox [06:45] ah [06:46] Zordrak: the database for the wonderbar still isn't cleaned though [06:46] was planned for 3.7 [06:48] Camarade_Tux: it's called awsomebar :) [06:48] tbh cold start was my only real gripe [06:48] took forever [06:48] ff never would close by itself on my box [06:48] i would always have to kill the process [06:48] so i switched to chrome [06:49] Reticenti: now you can go back! [06:49] :) [06:49] it did make me a little sad as I had been using ff since .9 beta [06:49] Goliath (n=goliath@unaffiliated/goliath) joined ##slackware. [06:49] is ctrl+z and then bg (for a process) same as commandfortheproccess & [06:49] ? [06:49] Goliath: yep [06:49] Kaapa: ah, not like wonderbra with one letter swapped? :P [06:49] k thanks [06:50] is ff 3.6 in the slack tree? [06:50] anyway, seeing >60MB DBs because of that bar just looked insane [06:50] Goliath (n=goliath@unaffiliated/goliath) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:50] Reticenti: Help -> Check for updates [06:51] unless you're on slackware*64* [06:51] nope [06:51] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [06:51] check for updates is shaded for me though :\ [06:51] \o/ [06:52] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:52] i can't click it [06:52] using 3.5.6 [06:52] sirslacker (i=1001@s0292.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [06:52] and when i closed it, i had to click the "force quit" dialog :\ [06:53] Reticenti: slackware64? [06:53] and it took about 10 seconds to start up [06:53] nope [06:53] maybe it doesn't work if the build doesn't come from mozilla [06:53] lol, 3.5.6 isnt even the latest 3.5 [06:53] it's the latest on the slack stream [06:54] isnt 3.5.7 like one or two-days old? [06:54] nah.. week or so [06:55] well, im going to bed [06:55] it's almsot 4am here [06:55] where? [06:55] night Reticenti :-) [06:55] nn [06:55] west coast usa [06:56] :) ok night [06:56] 4:55 PM here [06:56] LOL [06:56] good night Reticenti [06:56] Action: Zordrak has a dare for any americans who work in an open plan office [06:57] Use the FF persona called "The Great Iraqi Flag" [06:57] Whats hilarious is it was a result for a search on the word "subtle" [06:58] korg815 (n=korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [06:59] Zordrak, the middle-east makes me so upset these days. [06:59] hun7er (i=hun7er@ssh.bshellz.net) left irc: K-lined [07:00] these days? [07:01] alreadygone, :) I'm young, gotta start sometime [07:01] :) [07:01] electricity will go out in a minute ... here [07:02] I should shut down my pc... bye [07:02] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.214.205) left irc: "Leaving" [07:03] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) joined ##slackware. [07:03] I wonder when was my last (planned or unplanned) electricity outage [07:04] Camarade_Tux: i get that answer from uptime on any slackware box :) [07:05] Zordrak, like? [07:06] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [07:06] Zordrak: hehehe :P [07:06] Delahunt: tinyurl them and ill look [07:06] 8-( [07:06] i cant paste from here to my browser [07:07] http://tiny.cc/h0TFC [07:07] http://tiny.cc/EDe4w [07:07] Zordrak: far lower uptime here, but I have a laptop and sleep next to the other computer ;-) [07:08] Delahunt: meh... theyre ok [07:08] 170 days since the last power cut... must be a record! [07:08] pretty good for a $95 camera though [07:09] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:09] a camera is only as good as the photographer :) [07:09] Zordrak: nice, here I'm not going to beat a few weeks since I move around quite often [07:10] hence since the camera has no skills to speak of, it's all me 8-) [07:11] Not that anyone cares, but ive cgone for the persona called "Barely Blue" its subtle and blends well with wost of the stuff i load [07:11] esp the iGoogle Beach Theme [07:17] i can see why people love the iPhone now. it's absolutely perfect. [07:18] Action: pupit some awesome flash gurus http://amaztype.tha.jp/US/Books/Title?q=linux [07:18] (except maybe that it's not "hackable" or "customizeable" enough for almost-OCD tweakers like me lol) [07:19] Delahunt: it is if you jailbreak it with blackra1n [07:19] then you even get gnu tools and a command line [07:20] even "q=slackware" works... [07:20] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [07:20] why the heck would i want to do that? [07:20] i've seen too many people brick their iphone (much less these suckers are horribly expensive) [07:21] cause all you have to do is back it up in iTunes and if you brick it you just restore it from recovery mode [07:21] brick=brake? [07:21] the ONLY and i mean ONLY reason i bought one for my wife (other than loving her) is because she needs a phone when she gets here and having skype + international forwarding (so her family can call her) is comforting [07:21] brick=break [07:22] you can back up the entire iPhone from iTunes? [07:22] well duh [07:22] somehow i don't believe that (maybe the iPod portion (music) but are you sure the WHOLE phone?) [07:22] What do you think the "Backup" option is for? [07:22] for the info that's on it, not the firmware as well? [07:23] you can even use it to migrate your custom ipod touch setup to your new iphone [07:23] i'm not calling you a liar, i'm just saying it's too wonderful to be true [07:23] er, for me to believe it [07:24] from recovery mode, itunes will do a complete firmware reset [07:24] i'm too afraid to plug the dang thing in because i don't want it to learn this computer and give my wife a pain in the rear when she plugs it into her mac [07:24] v3gard_ (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) left ##slackware. [07:24] >.< dude you need to do some serious learning [07:24] hey man i'm new to the iphone thing [07:24] the phone doesnt care what its plugged into [07:24] 8-S [07:25] only itunes cares what gets plugged into it.. and so long as you dont request that it syncs with YOURs instead of hers.. it wont care [07:25] ok, if i put mp3s on it and mail it to my wife is it going to give her any problems? i.e. similar to what i heard the ipods do) [07:25] well i want it to sync with HERS is my point [07:25] not to mention you can authorise purchases to live on up to 5 itunes installs at once for a 5-way backup [07:25] i don't want it to learn mine, i just want to dump some files on it [07:25] Agiofws (n=nAgiofws@athedsl-434906.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:26] no. If she is gonna use "sync" then it will delete them when it syncs. If she manages the files manually then it will be fine [07:26] anyway.. im done with this.. this is ##slackware [07:26] but i recommend going and reading up [07:27] i hope you understand that i was about to go to bed and was researching it today. i'm just a bit paranoid because a show stopper like the whole "delete and sync" issue would totally destroy the joy of presenting it to her [07:27] use her machine.. add stuff to the library. sync. [07:27] better: give it to her, and *after*, break it :-) [07:27] well she's in the states and i'm in japan [07:27] Agiofws (n=nnAgiofw@athedsl-435512.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:27] then just send it to her [07:28] will it let me at least put the pictures on there? [07:28] Razec (i=1000@189-92-0-112.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:28] Delahunt: srsly. go read or ask in a better place [07:28] im done. dont mean to be rude but i learned the hard way and dont much like them anyway [07:28] ##iphone is down 8-( [07:29] im in ##slackware for Slackware [07:29] roger, sorry, not trying to annoy you [07:29] it's because of the "free" in "freenode" :-) [07:29] if Zordrak says its working, if he done it already, why don't you try it too Delahunt? [07:30] Action: Zordrak offers no warranty [07:31] Delahunt: so, how is in Japan? [07:31] pupit, because of how expensive these things are! 8-S [07:32] i've never ever bought any phone this expensive lol [07:32] "things you own, end up owning you." fight club. welcome :) [07:34] does hyperthreading work good on slackware or should i disable it? [07:34] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:35] works well [07:35] should I keep SpeedStep enabled too? [07:36] foobarz: why would you want to disable it? [07:36] yes [07:37] i don't know... in case it causes the computer to go to sleep or hang... I'm not sure what it will really do [07:37] speedstep doesn't involve sleep [07:37] speedstep reduces CPU speed to save power [07:38] in doubt, don't touch [07:38] oh, I was afraid speedstep was just a laptop thing... not good for a desktop that runs all the time... now I know better... (I can use it) [07:39] welcome to the world of tomorrow: technologies developed for mobile devices have found use in stationary ones [07:41] foobarz, hyperthreading works, keep it enabled. speedstep works great (CPUFreq), don't disable it [07:41] power saving features are good all around. :) [07:41] foobarz, why do you ask? [07:42] and it has nothing to do with if it's a desktop or laptop so much, as speedstep won't break a CPU that i am aware of [07:42] now granted, mine is set up so when plugged in, it's in performance mode (i.e. max speed, no scaling) but oh well [07:42] an end result could be less heat generated over time, which is also good [07:43] and it might (if your power supply is intelligent) save you money on electricity but i don't know [07:43] Delahunt: well if hyperthreading is useless, I have different CPUs to think about [07:44] Delahunt: uhmm, lower cpu speed equals less electricity used. regardless of your psu [07:45] if you draw 80watts versus 130watts, that's what you use. regardless of whether your psu can put out 300 [07:45] how do I select "performance mode" power on linux? I saw that windows has options like performance and balanced [07:47] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:47] Depending on the processor there are various states it can be in to save power. e.g. popular Intel Atom processors of 1.6 or 1.8 GHz can be set to automatically settle to 1 GHz based on conditions. 1 GHz being the slowest possible. [07:47] Try something like Cpufrequtils [07:48] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:49] ananke, yes but i think i remember reading a review that hooked up power draw meters to desktops and laptops and they found that the difference in power consumption wasn't much due to stone-age tech power supplies [07:49] i could be wrong though, let me get the website again [07:49] Slackware sets that to ondemand by default in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules [07:49] (and see if they've done more reviews) [07:49] i agree with you, it should equal less power draw but i'm thinking the PSU is the villain [07:51] http://codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001099.html [07:51] i take back the laptop comment [07:52] sahk0, and i've also seen on machines where something isn't loading cpufreq modules that rc.modules does absolutely nothing (since there's no cpufreq loaded) [07:52] if you use xfce, my advice is use power manager to control it and add the module loading calls to rc.modules [07:52] velusip: so with cpufreq-set there are different governors for performance and balanced power modes? [07:52] and make sure you also disable any modules in rc.modules that aren't your proper cpufreq manager [07:53] (sorry but having them all UNcommented to see which one works in rc.modules is like a child on the playground trying various blocks until one fits the hole, sort of silly way to do it) [07:53] foobarz, yes. You can start up a daemon to manage it too. [07:53] I think it is called powernow [07:53] (would've thought it more unix-like to leave them all commented out for the user to uncomment) [07:53] if you are on an intel chipset with pentium-M or core2 use acpi-cpufreq [07:54] powernow is amd [07:54] yeah, sorry. that is wrong, powernow is something else... I don't know what the daemon is called for cpufrequtils [07:54] zalost (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[08:02] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5890 [08:02] thanks [08:03] not sure id get on with it.. too much vertical real estate [08:03] Kaapa: omfg. thats what i've been searching for all my life [08:03] vert/horizv [08:03] Zordrak: I said the same the first time [08:04] mquin (i=mike@freenode/staff/mquin) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:04] Delahunt: in about:config, you have a property called browser.tabs.insertRelatedAfterCurrent [08:04] Delahunt: see if you have it set to true, and switch to false if that's what you want [08:04] now if only i can get it to stop askiung for my master passwordi for *every* window that was open when i restart it [08:04] Zordrak: install the lastpass extension [08:05] but that shouldn't happen anyway... [08:05] no.. im not liking this tree tab thing.. feels unnecessary [08:05] Kaapa: i love you. [08:06] Kaapa: i think its because of the facebook toolbar [08:06] Zordrak: when you start to (ab)use the groupings and subfolders, it's great [08:06] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [08:07] its just not for me.. it doesnt organise stuff the way my mind does [08:07] spook: cheers, have fun with it and just don't use chrome ;) [08:07] Kaapa: i never liked chrome. [08:10] telperion (n=Adium@190.156.15.83) joined ##slackware. [08:10] just uninstalled CoolPreviews too.. it went from useful to annoyng very slowly [08:11] most everything I did at my last job was through a web-browser. tree style tab with IE tab was basically necessary. [08:11] hundreds of tabs :( [08:11] yeh.. probably would have been useful when i was working ISP helpdesk [08:11] but not now [08:11] telperion (n=Adium@190.156.15.83) left ##slackware. [08:12] gtludwig (n=gtl@150.162.165.43) joined ##slackware. [08:13] Woo. Bye bye facebook toolbar, bye bye entering master password 10 times more often than i should [08:13] its nice to have a spring clean once in a while [08:13] bizarrely it looks a bit bare without the fb toolbar [08:13] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [08:14] suid0 (i=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [08:15] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:15] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:15] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [08:15] mquin (i=mike@freenode/staff/mquin) joined ##slackware. [08:18] Action: slava_dp hates toolbars. got a wide screen of 14" and 1280x800. less toolbars = more of a webpage. [08:18] although i have the bookmarks toolbar, essential. 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[10:09] Axius (n=fd@92.85.215.147) left irc: "leaving" [10:09] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-139.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:11] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. [10:11] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:13] wow, I can hear the crickets chirping in here this morning [10:13] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: "Leaving." [10:14] it's friday afternoon (in most places).. everyone's asleep [10:14] gutts (n=gutts@213.162.50.61) joined ##slackware. [10:15] yeah but even still, it's not usually this quiet in here [10:17] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.90.20) joined ##slackware. [10:20] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:22] 10 pm here how can I be of service [10:23] how much ram do you people use in your slackware box? [10:23] well anybody know if nfs is currently supporting ipv6? if so, how would an entry in /etc/exports look like [10:23] since I'm getting an error (one moment) [10:24] 128MB [10:24] 4 GB [10:24] 64MB [10:24] exportfs: invalid netmask `64' for 2001:470:XXXX:XXXX:: [10:24] $RANDOM MB [10:24] (I'm trying to share something out to my /64 ipv6 network) [10:25] doesnt look like its supported :) [10:25] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:25] ardya: unless the syntax is different [10:25] I never see nfs related in lsof -i6 [10:25] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [10:26] I see reports of nfs having ipv6 patches since 2007 [10:26] slackware isnt exactly leading the charge adopting/supporting ipv6 [10:26] ardya, will ipv4 die? [10:27] some day [10:27] as soon as I stab it in the heart with a stake [10:27] I do have several other services of mine up and running on ipv6 [10:27] even samba. [10:27] so, 192.168.1.1 will be what? [10:28] pupit: ipv6 operates waaaay differently [10:28] internally it may never die, externally, its estimated to run out of ips in ~2 years [10:28] pupit: you have 3 types of addresses [10:28] ardya I've heard that rumors too [10:28] they arent rumours [10:28] its happening [10:29] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-dryrmooqlvqqpqsx) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:29] it might never reach 100% because as we get closer, they'll clamp down more [10:29] mishehu: does slackwares samba pkg support ipv6? [10:29] less than 10% of ipv4 adressess now.. [10:29] ardya: depends on the version. [10:29] reread the question [10:29] mishehu: does slackwares samba pkg support ipv6? [10:30] ardya: depends on the version and what the slackbuild tells configure. I roll my own for samba. [10:30] have my own slackbuild [10:30] so you dont know [10:30] gutts (n=gutts@213.162.50.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:30] ardya: I'd have to look, but chances are if it's at least 3.2.7 there's a high likelihood of it [10:31] Package Version: 3.2.15-i486-1_slack13.0 [10:31] I'm guessing it doesn't [10:31] Bartron (n=Bartron@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [10:31] ardya: I'll peek at the default slackbuild [10:31] _abc_ (n=no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) joined ##slackware. [10:32] *shrug* [10:32] lol http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1751 [10:33] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:33] mishehu: like I said, slackware isnt leading the charge for ipv6 adoption, for years I've had to rebuild packages to have inet6, where other distros have long since supported inet6 [10:33] ardya: I don't explicitly set any configure params for ipv6 on my script, nor does the default slackbuild. I'd say the official slackware pkg does in fact work on ipv6 [10:34] uh, i've had no problems with ipv6 on slackware [10:34] all out of the box, for years [10:34] mishehu: and you're buildng 3.2.15? [10:34] ardya: my last build was 3.2.7, which is older [10:34] ahhh [10:34] something to look into [10:35] ardya: most things in slackware that work on ipv4 also work on ipv6 [10:35] like sendmail. [10:36] nfs might be one of the few that doesn't, unless the problem is my configuration [10:36] which had to be rebuilt [10:36] Axius (n=fd@92.85.215.147) joined ##slackware. [10:36] I've not installed sendmail for almost 10 years now heh [10:37] yeah sendmail might not be good proof for your case. [10:38] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:39] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-072-182-027.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:39] and if it simply needs to be rebuild for ipv6 support, the problem owuld be in the slackbuild [10:39] and not the software itself [10:39] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-072-182-027.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:40] just run ./configure --help and see what switch turns ipv6 on and add it to the slackbuild = problem solved [10:40] I'm commenting about the default slackbuild [10:41] mishehu: of course its the build, not the software, as I said, out of the box, slackware doesn't lead the charge in ipv6 adoption, thats all [10:41] compmstr (n=corey@adsl-074-185-008-197.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:42] ardya: maybe that's something that simply needs to be broguth to voelkerding's attention [10:43] no doubt it has, and he chooses not to for reasons unknown to me [10:43] I still don't see one lousy package as a statistically significant determination of slackware leading or not leading the charge for ipv6 [10:43] apache, bind etc all work flawlessly with ipv6, no problems. [10:43] what ISPs switched to ipv6 ? not mine [10:43] ardya: do you have proof that somebody said "hey voelkerding, can't you enable ipv6 in sendmail by default?" [10:44] guax (n=guax@189.4.99.110) joined ##slackware. [10:44] andybiker (n=andrew@cpc1-rdng7-0-0-cust904.winn.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [10:44] internode in australia has native ipv6 [10:44] Pig_Pen: I wish mine, but I'm stuck on Ma Bell. I do have a few tunnels to hurricane electric though [10:44] I don't need proof, the fact remains, sendmail is not inet6 aware [10:44] MReimer_ (n=chatzill@p4FD4A52C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [10:44] its the default smtp [10:44] *shrug* [10:45] then you are simply assuming [10:45] which part was the assumption [10:45] if I actually used sendmail I'd probably would have already barked up voelkerding's tree about it [10:46] < ardya> no doubt it has, and he chooses not to for reasons unknown to me [10:46] ardya: you seem to keep changing your point. [10:46] ahh, yes, sorry, I forgot "perhaps he chooses" [10:47] in any case, it doesn't change the fact [10:47] ardya: you also assume the issue has been brought up to him in the first place (that was the proof I was asking for) [10:48] ardya: I'll tell you what... you make a list of packages that should include ipv6 support but still do not in slack-current, and I'll be more than happen to make a case for it to voelkerding [10:48] i remember now, sendmail's build is awful most unconventional, no ./configure -- you got to edit some files in /devtools/* [10:48] by all means, make a case [10:48] ardya: make me a list first [10:48] "if it can have inet6, enable it" [10:48] no wonder i dont install/use or even build my own [10:48] dngr (n=dngr@n112118168098.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [10:49] ardya: as I am still unconvinced by your assertion that slackware is behind the times on ipv6 adoption, with the EXCEPTION of sendmail. [10:49] which in my opinion is behind the times anyway [10:49] whether or nto sendmail has ipv6 support enabled by default :-) [10:49] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:50] Pig_Pen: well I 've been using qmail for ages, and a lot of friend of mine also like postfix. [10:50] *shrug* I'm not trying to convince you. I'm expressing my experience with it, your mileage may vary [10:51] ardya: so in other words, you make a statement, and don't want to support it either because a) you're too busy (not likely, you're chatting here), b) too lazy, or c) you know that your assertion is false. [10:51] imapd is fine for me, most of the time i just use seamonkey -mail because i dont have much in the way of email requirements [10:51] Axius_ (n=fd@92.85.223.95) joined ##slackware. [10:51] like I said, if you can give me a list of software that doesn't work in ipv6land from YOUR experience, I'll compare notes [10:51] and then I'll present an issue to voelkerding and whoever else is responsible. [10:52] mishehu: my statement is based on my experiences. I have supported. You don't agree, fine, doesn't change anything for me [10:52] so it's either b or c then. [10:52] because this is something that can be FIXED [10:52] but you are stubbornly not trying to help. [10:52] where did I imply it COULDNT be fixed. [10:53] I DO fix it. I build pkgs, or rebuild existing [10:53] well you sure as hell aren't doing anything right now about helping to get it fixed [10:54] fight fight fight [10:54] I dont have to [10:54] since I have only encountered one problem thus far, and it is will nfs, I'm asking for a list of software packages that do not work out-of-the-box with ipv6. [10:54] which I could then take and test them out specifically on my systems [10:54] compare notes [10:54] then send the list off to voelkerding et al and make the case [10:55] Volkerding [10:55] instead you're just sitting here saying "slackware doesn't lead for ipv6 support", and the only example thus far is sendmail (and that one I don't even think I have to test to verify) [10:55] hitest: oh whatever [10:55] I'm sure by now he's pretty used to people mispelling his name [10:56] hell people in the USA can't pronounce my name properly and it's very short. [10:56] two frickin syllables heh [10:57] ardya: which software does not work? you have not addressed mishehu's question. [10:57] perhaps he's going to compile a list now [10:57] or perhaps he put me on /ignore :-) [10:57] :) [10:58] I dont' mind making a case for ipv6 support, but I'd like to not look like an ass when doing it [11:01] hitest: you know, to think that I've been a slackware user since 1994 and I still mix up volkerding and voelkerding [11:02] of course, it's not like I meet up with him for beers and brats anytime there's a foosball game on [11:03] mishehu: you know of sendmail, and nfs [11:03] ardya: correct [11:03] start there [11:03] mishehu: wow! you're a veteran:) I've only been using since 10.0:) [11:03] shouldn't DEL delete char in xterm? It gives ~ char for me [11:03] CaptObvi1usman (n=The_Capt@antimatter.interrobanger.com) joined ##slackware. [11:03] CaptObvi1usman (n=The_Capt@antimatter.interrobanger.com) left irc: Client Quit [11:03] hitest: yeah, I was around a long time prior to the jump from slack3 to slack7 [11:04] I started with 3.0 [11:04] nice [11:05] ardya: well you have confirmed that sendmail does support ipv6 but it needs to be rebuilt. nfs I'm working on to find out if it's the version I have that's the problem, the way it was build, or if nfs still does not support from its main source (I'd be surprised if this one is the case) [11:05] ardya: but if you know of more software than that, it really would be nice to send that list upstream [11:05] Axius (n=fd@92.85.215.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:06] otherwise I shall consider the conversation as over. [11:06] sendmail was my only issue, other than lack of packages, like radvd [11:06] ardya: ok good point on radvd [11:06] alisonken1hom2 (n=alisonke@71.104.236.81) left irc: Client Quit [11:07] ardya: I'll make a request that it at least be included in testing or extra [11:07] and a dhcpd that supports dhcpv6 [11:07] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@71.104.236.81) joined ##slackware. [11:07] and rdnssd [11:07] ardya: what's rdnssd ? [11:07] an alternative to bind? [11:08] rdnssd is a client daemon that sets resolv.conf via RA [11:08] ardya: i find your ignorance disturbing. [11:08] spook: *shrug* your statement adds nothing constructive to the discussion [11:08] ardya: what is RA [11:09] Egyptian god? [11:09] the only acronym I truly remember is PCMCIA = People Can't Memory Computer Industry Acronyms [11:09] Router Advertisement. what radvd sends [11:09] alisonken1home: RA RA RA shish boom bah [11:09] ardya: if you want dhcpv6 instead of autoconf, you need an entirely seperate, STILL IN DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, called... dhcpv6 [11:09] mishehu: Go Team Go [11:10] spook: thank you, because lord knows I never used a google, and thought "gee willikers, I cant use it of slack doesnt ship it". [11:10] spook: so nothing in isc dhcpd yet for ipv6? [11:10] postfix is the way to go, Pat should abandon sendmail and replace it with postfix [11:10] spook: inject something constructive into the discussoin. quit wasting both our time with comments that bear no relevance to the discussion, thanks [11:10] well imo the issue of dhcpv6 is that there's no stable daemon available for it yet anyway [11:11] Linux-IRC (n=greenlan@unaffiliated/alinux) joined ##slackware. [11:11] Nick change: Linux-IRC -> greenlantern [11:11] Hi all [11:11] mishehu: if you can see some reason why it should be in the same project, please enlighten me. dhcp for ipv6 and ipv4, are done very very differently [11:11] mishehu: according to ISC, two daemons need to be run to have both v4 and v6 [11:11] Axius_ (n=fd@92.85.223.95) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:11] spook: I'm not making any reason for it to be or not to be in the same project. [11:12] mishehu: on the contrary, dhcpv6 is works quite well. [11:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:12] spook: hello [11:12] greenlantern (n=greenlan@unaffiliated/alinux) left irc: "leaving" [11:12] ardya: I'm going to go consult isc's docs then about dhcpv6 then. [11:13] because it sounds like isc dhcpd does support it [11:13] from what you say [11:13] it doesnt. [11:13] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:13] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:13] nor will it ever. it would be a complete rewrite. [11:14] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:14] mishehu: yeah, I built their latest v6 daemon, but havent yet implemented it [11:14] backburner project at the moment [11:14] ardya: I've been meaning to test it, but as I've got radvd and 3 other projects going on, it's on the shelf at the moment heh [11:15] exactly :) [11:15] it == some dhcpdv6 daemon [11:15] and come to think of it, all my dns queries are still going over ipv4 [11:15] since I don't have rdnssd running [11:16] aryr100 (n=aryr100@cpe-67-248-212-47.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:16] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@99.144.77.98) joined ##slackware. [11:17] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [11:17] holy kow there's bind10 now? [11:17] Axius (n=fd@92.85.223.95) joined ##slackware. [11:17] you'd only want to use rdnssd in a v6 only net anyway [11:17] or dhcpv6 [11:17] ardya: ah so it overwrites and doesn't append [11:18] actually, I dont know if it overwrites, or appends, havent tried it [11:18] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] I don't *technically* see why you couldn't run v4 & v6 dhcp for the same network [11:19] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:19] so devices get both v4 & v6 addresses [11:19] I cant see a use case for v4 and v6 ips in resolv.conf, but I'm sure others can [11:19] ardya: *shrug* me neither. [11:19] mishehu: i run both on mine :) [11:19] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:19] spook: have any hiccups with that set up? [11:20] nope [11:20] I get this errors :/bin/sh: bdftopcf , make: *** [ter-112n.pcf] Error 127 command not found ;when try to install terminus-font with sbopkg. What could be the problem? [11:20] even using tun6to4 :) [11:20] spook: how is resolv.conf handled? [11:20] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [11:20] <_abc_> is there a decent gis application that has street level maps for Europe in slackware? [11:21] 'handled' ? [11:21] spook: your dhcp client(s) write to resolv.conf? [11:21] spook: and do you have ddns support for the ipv6 addresses too? [11:22] suid0 (i=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [11:22] Chessware (n=Rossoner@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [11:22] dhcp.conf has to be created before clients can ask the server for info [11:22] hi all [11:22] I am looking for someone who ever worked with openswan [11:22] Can someone help me with that problem? [11:22] Chessware: doesn't that have a channel of its own? [11:23] <_abc_> Axius: ask in #tex [11:23] ardya: if you mean, do the ipv6 clients write to resolv.conf the answer is no [11:23] of course but it's empty [11:23] telperion (n=Adium@proxy1.unal.edu.co) joined ##slackware. [11:23] Axius: well I'm sure it'd help if folks even knew what the heck you were doing [11:23] wasnt openswan overtaken by openvpn? [11:23] mishehu: yes. [11:23] spook: your dhcp client(s) write to resolv.conf? [11:23] telperion (n=Adium@proxy1.unal.edu.co) left ##slackware. [11:23] RJz0r (n=wafflez@216-189-164-080-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:23] ardya: no - clients _cannot_ write to resolv.conf [11:23] *sigh* [11:23] spook: nice, reverse zone as well? [11:24] or do you only send dns server data via one of the dhcpd's? [11:24] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:24] i quit [11:24] ardya: google for dhcp and read up on dhcp 101 [11:24] alisonken1home: ok, right, I'm confusing that with toher distros [11:24] Action: Dominian issues dhcp to his picture frame [11:24] ardya, don't know [11:25] mishehu: I'm trying to install terminus-font with sbopkg and I get those errors I've showed. [11:25] ardya: no - dhcp is the same regardless of distro or o/s [11:26] RJz0r (n=wafflez@216-189-164-080-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) joined ##slackware. [11:26] Axius: well I"ve got no idea sorry. not at all familiar with that software package [11:26] Axius: #sbopkg ? [11:26] Axius: though somebody else suggested you try the #tex channel [11:26] ok [11:27] or yes #sbopkg (didn't realize there was an irc chanenl for sbo) [11:27] Nick change: zecalmoco -> zecafig [11:27] mishehu: if its no trouble, please keep me apprised of your discussoins with upstream regarding nfs, sendmail, radvd [11:27] #slackbuilds is for SBo.. #sbopkg is for #sbopkg [11:27] ardya: no problem [11:28] Ok I will ask a simple question now : how can I made this topology : http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/openswan in a local network plz [11:28] ardya: send me an e-mail you want me to cc if Ido it via e-mail. [11:28] ok [11:28] what is SBo? [11:28] slackbuilds.org [11:28] oh [11:29] spook: what version of dhcpd for v6 do you currently use? [11:30] mishehu: i told you, i quit [11:30] shyko (n=shyko@187.39.216.162) joined ##slackware. [11:30] is there a portable way to get shell commands result to variable in Makefile? [11:30] I need to output of pwd in my Makefile [11:31] spook: must have gotten lost in the backscroll [11:31] as I'm talking here and trying to find what's causing a segfault in my voip software [11:32] I have 2 pc and I want to emulates gw to make 2 differents local lan [11:32] how can I do that ? [11:32] mishehu: did you get the msg? [11:32] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [11:33] Chessware: still trying to block vpns? [11:33] ardya: yep, and added it to my notes here [11:33] ok, thanks again [11:34] spook, forget about it [11:34] ardya: my main server has nfs-util 1.1.2, so I wanted to verify on this workstation which has 1.1.4 [11:34] and same deal still [11:34] v4 only? [11:34] no dice [11:34] yeah [11:34] again unless there's some wonky different syntax, but I find no examples of that [11:35] have to look at what other distros are using [11:35] I'll [11:35] ardya: i'm going to try on my mythbuntu box shortly [11:36] it currently has 1.2.0 [11:36] let me see about the shares [11:36] nfs-utils-1.2.0-6.fc11.i586 [11:36] zmyrgel: look at some already-made makefiles (like, say, the kernel?) and see how they do that [11:37] re: nfs ipv6 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=441361 scroll to the bottom. [11:37] end of discussion. [11:37] alisonken1home: I mean a way to do it in GNU Make and BSD Make [11:38] ardya: I get the same error on 1.2.0 on the ubuntu build :-/ [11:38] I doubt kernel has samples of BSD make [11:38] spook: alrighty [11:39] zmyrgel: same issue - look at an if statement for the kernel makefile and pwd, then look at a makefile for bsd makefile. should be pretty close to the same since they both use the same gnu tools [11:39] VAR := $(shell pwd) works in GNU make but not in BSD make [11:39] spook: btw, about isc dhcpd, it seems that dhcpv6 has been supported since 4.0 (at least what I saw) [11:39] I would suggest getting the bsd sources and see how they do it in their kernel makefile [11:40] spook: interesting, and thanks [11:40] otherwise, create two makefiles, one for linux one for bsd, then source the one for the make you're using [11:40] I've seen it done that way usually - a separate makefile with notes on which one to use [11:40] ardya: it wasnt for you, it was to end the discussion because you were all too lazy/incapable of googling "nfs ipv6" [11:41] seems still a bad way to handle it [11:41] or we felt like talking about it, and it rubs you the wrong way [11:41] such patience. [11:41] those games are best left to somewhere ##oftopic [11:41] I have already wrote buggy perl script to help me with this [11:41] ##offtopic [11:41] going round and round in circles and spreading fud, rubs many people in here the wrong way. [11:42] and some of them have no problems using ban [11:43] ok so still a few months off for full ipv6 nfs support [11:46] cool [11:47] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:47] mishehu: If I come across more applications, or potential application additions, I'lllet you know [11:48] ardya: appreciate it [11:48] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:50] mishehu: while this isn't slackbuild related, there are patches to current openvpn for ipv6 transport [11:51] when i have slackware64bit must i use 64bit packages? [11:51] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [11:51] ardya: I honestly have no idea. I figured that ipv6 use pretty much renders openvpn unnecessary [11:52] Bartron: no, but why would you not want to? (unless the package you want doesn't exist with a 64 built slackpack) [11:53] ah ok [11:53] ty [11:53] ardya: with ipv6 transport, what would the use/function of openvpn be? [11:54] the same as it would be using a v4 transport [11:54] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:54] suin0 (i=suid0@187.47.39.83) joined ##slackware. [11:56] suid0 (i=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:56] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:56] Axius (n=fd@92.85.223.95) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:56] ardya: again that doesn't sound like it would be at all useful... unless you're trying to interconnect two v4 networks, in which case if you had v6 only method of transport between the two locations, why would you not set up a different kind of tunnel? the encryption portion could be handled by ipsec in ipv6 [11:57] suin0 (i=suid0@187.47.39.83) left ##slackware. [11:57] suid0 (i=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [11:58] I use openvpn for network-to-network links for v4 networks, but it simply doesn't click in my brain this morning how it woudl be useful to use a v6 transport for that. [11:58] maybe I'm still not awake [11:58] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.14) left irc: No route to host [11:58] ipsec requires kernel level config, which may not be an option for any reason, while openvpn is userspace, no? [11:58] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.32) joined ##slackware. [11:59] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] openvpn is userspace, but it uses the kernel tun device. (or tap) [12:00] right [12:00] Chessware (n=Rossoner@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:00] ardya: if I'm not mistaken, isn't ipsec support mandatory for anything that supports ipv6? while I know that modules can be simply not be built, but does the spec require that those modules be available [12:00] MReimer_ (n=chatzill@p4FD4A52C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [12:00] at least in linux, tun is ebaled by default in most if not all distros [12:00] which is a problem on some OpenVZ VPSes, which is why I insist on Xen VPSes. [12:01] mishehu: no, not required [12:01] oh wait read that backwards heh [12:01] I'm not writing in hebrew right now :-) [12:02] suid0 (i=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "Leaving" [12:02] suid0 (i=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [12:02] I'm reading it in it though...heh [12:02] looking at my kernel config [12:03] I know I enable all the ipsec modules [12:03] but I've yet to actually do anything with them [12:03] jg71_ (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:04] I dont set them [12:05] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:06] ardya: well so you wouldn't support them until you rebuilt them, but since you support ipv6 you also have the capability of enabling these ipsec modules [12:06] I expect default kernels as shipped by distros support it [12:07] mishehu: I dont enable ipsec related anything in my custom kernels, as I dont at present use ipsec [12:07] so I *think* it rather obsoletes openvpn for v6 space at least [12:07] kinky (n=kinky@brmn-4dbc914f.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [12:07] on this subject though I don't claim to be an expert. 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[12:43] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:44] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:44] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:44] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [12:46] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:46] <_abc_> does anyone here have exeprience with gis software on slackware? [12:47] <_abc_> which is the package with the best chances to get street level maps for Europe for [12:47] gps? [12:48] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:48] <_abc_> eh ... [12:51] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:51] Axius (n=fd@92.84.2.175) joined ##slackware. [12:51] why not just use google's stuff, since it's web-based [12:52] Nikopol (i=nikopol@unaffiliated/nemesis128) left irc: "Say No to eugenics" [12:55] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos [12:55] i wonder if you can get domains with double dash's [12:55] fart--fart.com [12:56] lol [12:56] damn it fire|bird :P [12:56] <_abc_> Necos: i said slackware based not web based [12:57] lol [12:57] Necos: I strike out of nowhere. :P [12:57] i noticed... :P [12:57] <_abc_> jeev: i'd like to get -.com [12:58] <_abc_> f.ex. numeric-only domains are a no-no, yet there are hundreds of them [12:58] _abc_, then you'd say linux-based... it's not like someone's going to make a slackware-specific GIS system [12:58] <_abc_> so i guess getting _.com or -.com would not be a problem [12:59] jeev, you can. your mom has "super--sexy.com" iirc [12:59] <_abc_> Necos: i specifically asked which gis related software is known to work well with street level maps for Europe [12:59] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:59] or "nasty--vids.net" or something [12:59] <_abc_> because google and company are beginning to p*** me off with their web 2.x apis [13:00] anywho... i don't know of any, but have you checked slackbuilds.org? [13:00] <_abc_> also web access to a loaded server in realtime is not good (both yahoo and google) with low bandwidth mobile and on top of that these go out of their way to make caching offline hard [13:01] <_abc_> Necos: i need a name first, there are gis applications like there is sand on the beach [13:01] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-btywdfalvzwympbe) joined ##slackware. [13:01] <_abc_> i guess i have to turn tor on and go on tornet for the google maps *snatch* [13:01] psYcker (n=psy@201.156.108.196) joined ##slackware. [13:02] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-45-36.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:02] <_abc_> a few days ago i turned off all js on google and yahoo, and it's the way it stays since in my country the local search pages essentially spy on each keypress while typing [13:02] crudo (n=workforn@201-65-208-150.poolip.RCE.embratel.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:03] <_abc_> so, any gis applications you *like* on slackware? [13:03] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:03] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-45-36.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:04] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-45-36.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:04] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.32) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:06] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-45-36.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:07] Axius (n=fd@92.84.2.175) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:09] metrofox1 (n=metrofox@ppp-178-249.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [13:09] _abc_: what's that country? [13:09] <_abc_> Romania now but it could be something else in Europe. Why? [13:10] <_abc_> pupit: it's you, purple, again? [13:10] I thaught its romania [13:10] thought^ [13:10] <_abc_> you are stalking me, right? :D [13:10] <_abc_> and you answered a question with another. [13:10] purple is default for pidgin ;) [13:11] <_abc_> oh really [13:11] and yes, now I have your ip, [13:11] will send militia to your "anti spy" home [13:12] overflow76 (n=coconuts@189-18-114-168.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:12] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:13] lol [13:16] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: "out" [13:17] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:19] How can I assign the super key alone to KApplicationLauncher as hotkey?. Or is it requirement that should always be used with some other key if I assign a shortcut? [13:19] <_abc_> pupit: you have my ip? oh, you have my *cloak* ip [13:20] <_abc_> pupit: the militia will find it easily. they shot the place up 20 years ago during the 'revolution' and the bullets are still in the walls. i just sent some pictures of that to friends today [13:20] tooly (n=tooly@e178166186.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:21] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:21] overflow76 (n=coconuts@189-18-114-168.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:21] so how's that tor works? [13:23] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-204-252.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:24] telperion (n=Adium@proxy3.unal.edu.co) joined ##slackware. [13:24] telperion (n=Adium@proxy3.unal.edu.co) left ##slackware. [13:26] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:26] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.60.76) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:27] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.66.219) joined ##slackware. [13:27] lechiffre: you mean this? http://rubenlaguna.com/wp/2007/01/09/how-to-enable-windows-key-as-super-key-in-linux/ [13:28] kinky (n=kinky@brmn-4dbc914f.pool.mediaWays.net) left ##slackware. [13:28] crudo (n=workforn@201-65-208-150.poolip.RCE.embratel.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [13:29] e01_ (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] e01_ (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:30] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:30] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] pupit:No. Super key is already enabled. What I want is to assign it as a lone key shortcut. Combination of +Someotherkey works great. I was just wondering if kde provides a way to do this. [13:33] hm.. [13:33] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [13:33] I remember I enabled it in 12.1 12.2.. that way [13:41] Looks like other shortcuts for it would be gone if I do that. :p http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=84602 [13:42] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [13:42] metrofox1 (n=metrofox@ppp-178-249.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Client Quit [13:44] yeah... pity [13:45] use ctrl [13:45] or alt [13:48] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@97-127-221-37.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:49] Axius (n=fd@92.84.2.175) joined ##slackware. [13:51] was trying to build the new version of pidgin to only find out it needs some new crap >.> [13:51] what c? [13:51] it's asking for farsight2 [13:52] ^^ [13:52] Anyone knows stonegate solutions ? [13:52] I know stonegate plaza [13:52] so now i need to go thru configure and see if i can disable (and by the looks of it i can) [13:52] i only use finch, so... [13:53] stonesoft :D [13:53] Necos: have you tried --without-farsight2 or --disable-farsight2 ? [13:53] you can disable a lot of crap with pidgin including the gtk app and build only finch [13:54] <_abc_> is this #pidgin? [13:54] run ./configure --help and use that info to build a bare bones finch if that is all you use, it will be a smaller package too [13:55] it is #pidgin for the moment [13:57] Pig_Pen, that's what i was gonna try... i was reading the configure help [13:57] _abc_, what difference does it make? >.> [13:57] and Pig_Pen, that's what i always do... since my server is headless, i only build console packages [13:58] yeah, we dont need no stinkin' net nannys [13:58] Nick change: ga_bash -> free_fx [13:58] <_abc_> O.o [13:58] or are you just being pissy because you can't find your GIS software? [13:58] look on freshmeat [13:58] i found a few [13:58] <_abc_> i was looking for tips on slackware operation and installation ... a friendly chat community [14:00] and that's what we are :P [14:00] so was Necos and I until *someone* chimed in asking if this was #pidgin [14:00] I dont see anything gis related in slackwares available software [14:01] tried slackbuilds.org? 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[14:02] Action: Necos stabs eviljames [14:03] what is slackware? it is a collection of packages built using a specific method, the same packages found on most all distros, including pidgin so it should be ok to talk about rebuilding pidgin in here too, if thats ok with you _abc_ [14:03] lol [14:03] <_abc_> one bows to irrefutable first order logic [14:03] lol, take a chill-pill [14:04] or whatever you kids do nowadays :P [14:04] <_abc_> i'm a 42 year old child [14:04] then take a laxative >.> [14:04] i want to hammer it home like a cantankerous old man [14:04] <_abc_> Pig_Pen: yeah that's the spirit [14:06] http://imagebin.org/81270 [14:08] Necos: apparently it is still somehow needed for Skype?! [14:08] error_developer_ (n=errordev@host81-152-48-183.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:08] www.pastebin.ca/1761876 [14:09] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:09] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:09] eviljames must die :) [14:09] Wescotte (n=wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:10] build build build... and in a few minutes, i'll have a new finch package :) [14:10] bhychik (n=bhychik@83.167.107.103) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:11] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-40-229.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:11] http://www.pastebin.ca/1761881 Necos you forgot something, line 5 [14:11] i did :P [14:11] it retains the copyright [14:11] thats ok, its GPL [14:12] no u r [14:12] Action: Necos prods Pig_Pen with a buffalo gun [14:13] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:13] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [14:17] josemanuel (n=josemanu@157.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [14:19] Anyone recommend any good open source alternatives to MS Money and Quicken? It'd also be great if they can import old Money/Quicken files [14:19] ugh... failed on libgnt >.> [14:19] gnucash? [14:20] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:20] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:21] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [14:21] Wescotte: i am not sure if it can import money/quicken file but i use JGnash a java financial app, it has been working great for me for a long time [14:21] Thanks Necos and Pig_Pen. I'll check them both out [14:21] http://sourceforge.net/projects/jgnash/ [14:21] Whatever happened to KMyMoney? [14:21] or KMoney or whatever it is called? [14:22] I just found KMyMoney via Scrooge slackbuild [14:22] its still alive. it recently released a KDE4 port. not tagged stable though [14:22] well Skrooge :) [14:22] kde-3x app, it never seemed to mature, i was hoping it would take off because it would fit right in with the wife's kde-3.x desktop [14:23] Pig_Pen: well, here's hoping the kde4 port goes well. [14:23] still alive? it was looking sort of dead last year [14:23] as we all know, kde4 > kde3 [14:23] by a wide margin at this point [14:23] JGnash looks very mature [14:23] since JGnash is java its cross platform so windows & linux both can read/write the same files [14:24] Pig_Pen: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmymoney2/files/ see 3.95.0 (released 28/12/2009) [14:24] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.17) joined ##slackware. [14:24] it still looks like a kde3 app [14:24] Al3m40 (n=Juruma@189.83.137.112) left ##slackware. [14:25] i will have to take another look at kmymoney [14:25] zounds (n=zounds@81-229-93-131-no68.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [14:27] they all look pretty promising [14:27] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC3125C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [14:28] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:28] kmymoney 3.95 is a kde-4.x app [14:29] yeah, the looks went to well, the interface [14:29] kmymoney2-1.0.2 is for kde-3 (i think, looking now...) [14:30] yeah 1.0.x is kde3 [14:32] configure: error: Package requirements (libofx >= 0.8.2) were not met: theres something i gotta get [14:32] ofx is optional for kmymoney. are you building skrooge? [14:33] _abc_ (n=no@unaffiliated/ccbbaa) left irc: "leaving" [14:34] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:34] and ofx requires ofxutilities [14:35] i think i will disable that feature if it does not cripple it [14:35] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:37] heh the kde3 version of KMyMoney source is ~300kb the KDE4 version is ~15meg :) [14:37] err 14meg.. [14:37] john_dee (n=id@95-29-13-187.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:38] oh wait nevermind.. it's ~11meg vs ~14meg.. [14:38] i am just going to look at kmymoney, JGnash is still an old favorite for keeping my checking account balanced [14:39] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "..." [14:39] i gave up and hired an accountant [14:39] now it does not like slackware's sqlite [14:40] i gotta keep a basic financial app for keeping an eye on the checking account, i cant afford bouncing a check [14:42] one time someone said "i wish i had lots of money so i can use a financial app" i told him i dont have lots of money and thats why i have a financial app because i cant afford to bounce a check [14:42] dru1d (n=dru1d@ip-82-177-172-217.net.azartsat.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:44] wonder when google money will come along [14:44] it does give you a better/good perspective to keep every recipt from everything you purchase and enter it in the register [14:45] yes they should, [14:46] kmymoney is going to build as long as you disable the ofx and sqlite [14:49] ArTourter (n=artourte@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:49] i hope disable sqlite does not cripple it [14:49] Pig_Pen: what's this kbanking plug in? [14:49] weird, i remember building for me out of the box [14:50] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.103.38) joined ##slackware. [14:50] Mine didn't complain about sqllite just now either.. [14:51] not sure, i still have a 1.x version on the wife's PC, i have not upgraded it to the latest version in a long time [14:51] GArik_ (n=wesnoth@95-29-236-147.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:52] Pig_Pen: you building the kde4 or kde3 version of KMyMoney? [14:52] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:52] cherife (n=cherife@123.121.0.63) joined ##slackware. [14:54] kde-3 [14:55] Alan_Hic1s (n=alan@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:55] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: "finally home!" [14:56] Alan_Hicks (n=alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-45-36.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:58] well, kmymoney built, installed and is running, i have not actually made any entries yet [14:59] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-45-36.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:02] i still dont like it, too much for my needs, i just need a checkbook register, kmymoney has too many categories and features to wade through, if not for the wife i could get by using a text editor and a calculator [15:02] Just use what real accountants use: excel. [15:03] or OpenOffice Calc or whatever it's called. [15:03] Then you can use the number pad and no need for a calculator at all! [15:03] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. 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Don't make your desktop a single plasmoid. Put multiple folder view plasmoids on it. [15:14] Life is better that way :D [15:15] multiple folder view plasmoids? [15:15] For me, I have a folder view plasmoid for ~/Desktop/ and ~/Downloads/ [15:15] rather, I have 2 folder view plasmoids on the desktop. [15:16] Along with weather, CPU monitor, clock, drag/drop kget.. etc. etc. [15:16] how do you specify multiple folders? [15:16] You don't, each plasmoid is a single folder. You continuously add plasmoids. [15:16] via the testicle-looking widget in the top-right corner [15:17] or right-clicking the desktop and selecting Add widgets [15:17] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.104.2) joined ##slackware. [15:18] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@79.101.92.254) joined ##slackware. [15:18] Adding Folder views? [15:19] hmm even if i swithc it back to Desktop it still lists that single folder with my username.. can't move it. can't seem to just erase it [15:19] aha.. got rid of it [15:19] \o/ [15:19] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.48.226) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:19] wonder if it was one of those folder views just minimized.. [15:21] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:24] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) joined ##slackware. [15:25] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [15:27] josemanuel (n=josemanu@157.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [15:32] Anyone know any slackbuilds off the top of their head that use cmake? I'd like to double check I'm doing everything correctly [15:32] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-072-182-027.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:32] Wescotte: probably anything qt4/kde4 would use cmake [15:33] http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.0/desktop/kcometen4/kcometen4.SlackBuild [15:33] http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.0/desktop/kover/kover.SlackBuild [15:34] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-45-36.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [15:37] Thanks [15:38] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:38] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@c-24-131-254-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [15:39] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:39] wertik_rus (n=mirggi@95-24-45-36.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:40] alienBlu1b (i=3351@connie.slackware.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:40] alienBlurb (i=3351@connie.slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [15:43] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@200.163.138.164) left irc: "Leaving" [15:47] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [15:50] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:50] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:51] I have Garmin Forerunner 305 which I use for running. Is there any GPS tool on Slackware that will allow me to get running data and do the mapping? [15:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [15:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:52] Action: kleanchap moving my operations from Windows to Linux slowly. [15:52] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [15:52] psYcker (n=psy@201.156.108.196) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:52] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:53] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [15:55] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:56] psYcker (n=psy@201.156.108.196) joined ##slackware. [15:57] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:00] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:02] kleanchap, perhaps see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software ? (disclaimer: I only found the page, but I know nothing about maps) [16:04] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [16:05] http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/01/22/174240/Prolonged-Gaming-Blamed-For-Rickets-Rise [16:08] openstreetmap data comes in big part from people who used their gps while travelling and would gather positions during the journey [16:08] I know people did that when moutain biking too [16:11] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:13] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. 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[16:32] GArik_ (n=wesnoth@95-29-236-147.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [16:33] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [16:33] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.105.220) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:33] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-40-229.multimo.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [16:34] Anyone who can point me in the right direction for solving this error: Got error: 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysql/mysql.sock' (111) when trying to connect [16:34] its a fresh slackware 13 64 bit install [16:34] Is mysql running? (does it have to be?) [16:34] it's not running, it starts and then stops [16:35] This is for Akonadi / strigi / nepomuk? [16:35] I remember having the same problem on a previous install a couple of years back, but I can't remember what I did to solve it :/ and my google searches are turning up empty [16:35] Wescotte (n=wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:35] yes and no, I want to use it for development later too [16:36] So, rc.mysqld doesn't work? [16:36] epime@styx:/var/lib/mysql$ mysqld_safe [16:36] nohup: ignoring input and redirecting stderr to stdout [16:36] Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql [16:36] Channel flood from epime -- kicking [16:36] STOPPING server from pid file /var/lib/mysql/styx.pid [16:36] epime kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [16:36] epime (n=epime@73.84-49-231.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [16:36] sweet [16:36] lol [16:36] Darwin At Work(R) [16:37] heh [16:37] heheh [16:37] You may or may not have heard of pastebin [16:37] if not, you have now. use it. [16:37] :D [16:37] yeh I have, but figured 5 lines wasn't that much [16:37] apparently it is :) [16:39] slackboy is being mean again? [16:40] slackboy puts the hammer down when four lines are posted in quick succession [16:41] it would be fun to have him kick ppl that post his name in the channel ;) [16:41] more like flawed from the beginning [16:41] so none of you have trouble starting mysql after a fresh install ? [16:41] Action: macavity is a big big fan of slackboy [16:42] ;) yep ;) [16:42] epime: read the comments in rc.mysqld [16:42] epime: it tells you what you have to do. [16:42] epime: i didnt bother reading the backlog.. did you read the comments in rc.mysqld? [16:42] macavity: he is very arrogant most of the time.. he never replies to you... unless he wants to say ehem "kick" / "ban"...etc [16:42] howdy! [16:42] 99% of the cases people forget to chmod the main db [16:43] How do I kick myself ? [16:43] paste 4 lines rapidly? 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[16:44] eviljames: i bet that the bugger is loving the attention ;) [16:45] Action: The-Croupier wonders how many new ppl will really want to have his babies after this ;) [16:46] Action: The-Croupier off to eat... ;) dont mention slackboy...while /me is away ;) [16:47] The-Croupier: you have bliky smilies on your brain man :P [16:51] matu (n=matu@client80-83-40-113.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:52] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left ##slackware. [16:53] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: [16:54] The-spiki (n=spiki@77-105-33-215.dialup.sezampro.yu) joined ##slackware. [16:55] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.106.208) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:57] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [16:58] s0d0 (n=sod@host86-175-233-139.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:59] overflow76 (n=coconuts@189-46-158-138.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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(www.slackbuilds.org) [17:25] Axius (n=fd@92.84.2.175) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:26] doinel (n=sparhawk@xlate-67-89.resnet.webster.edu) left irc: "leaving" [17:27] there are no slackbuilds in sbo for package in Slackware [17:29] john_dee (n=id@95-29-13-187.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [17:30] correct.. they are in the source/ directory on your local slackware mirror [17:31] A bit of patience and ff 3.6 will be yours too [17:31] I am running it right now [17:31] alienBOB: is it solid? [17:32] Looks like it yes [17:32] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] Youtube movie playing as I type, on Slackware64-current [17:33] in the html5 version, or flash? [17:34] john_dee (n=id@95-29-15-48.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:34] ff doesnt support html5 [17:34] yes it does [17:35] oh? [17:35] i belive it was the first one to do so [17:35] macavity: yes, it was. [17:35] it doesnt support googles html5 videos yet [17:35] it doesnt have a built-in h264 codec [17:35] ^aka that [17:35] ardya: firefox _does_ support html5 [17:35] ah ok, so the video component [17:36] so they strictly speaking cant say it is supported [17:36] The video component supports ogg video [17:36] ardya: not the video component but the codec google decided to use in youtube [17:37] ok [17:37] yup, youtube's codec only works in Safari and Chrome, for now anyway. [17:37] its probably just one extention away :P [17:37] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.95.226.226) left irc: "just to eat" [17:38] I look forward to it [17:39] see what all the hoopla is about [17:39] all the hoopla is just that you can kick flash out and have the web be a generally better place :P [17:39] tooly (n=tooly@e178166186.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. [17:40] epime (n=epime@73.84-49-231.nextgentel.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:41] while I generally agree that ridding the world of flsh is a good thing, if this html5 video thing sucks more resource usage up than flash, I wont lose any sleep keeping flash around :) [17:44] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:44] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: "Leaving." [17:46] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [17:46] if it was up to me all flash and javascript would be illegal and websites would only have text and image files [17:47] yes, I too miss web 0.5 a bit [17:47] google probably used h264 because chrome will support it [17:47] or supports it [17:48] 'images'? 'websites'? 'internet'? god forbid technology would move forward [17:48] sirslacker (i=1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: "leaving" [17:49] Pig_Pen, why would all flash be illegal? [17:49] probably the fact firefox doesnt support it was considered a plus as well [17:49] ah yes, that argument :) [17:49] Pig_Pen, you not using NoScript / AdBlock is not our fault 8-P [17:50] sahk0, tiz what i meant [17:50] i always use noscript & adblock for 99% of my browsing, those two extensions are firefox's only redeeming values [17:51] only? [17:51] and TabKit [17:51] in my opinion [17:51] i use firefox because konqueror doesnt render all sites right yet [17:51] tabkit, got to take a look at this [17:52] does red hat make firefox extensions too these days? :) [17:52] dont hold your breath for konqueror macavity ;p [17:52] the day it renders everything i need i simply wont bother with the cumbersome and unintegrated obnoxiousness of GTK/firefox [17:52] if someone came out with a lightweight, memory-conscious browser that had noscript and adblock, we'd be in business [17:53] Pig_Pen: they are working on "any engine" tab support [17:53] but i don't know if noscript/adblock are actually memory-friendly either [17:53] lynx! [17:53] Pig_Pen: defaulting to webkit [17:53] Action: Delahunt barfs [17:54] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [17:54] theres another text based console browser to give links & lynx some competition called netrik it even reads man pages [17:55] im just going to keep buying more ram [17:55] Pig_Pen: w3m can be used as a pager too [17:56] oh yeah! i forgot about w3m [17:57] I just ran slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all my Slackware13.0 64-bit installation, and it seems that it broke something. I was unable to open new windows in tmux(like gnu screen) after the process completed. I tried restarting the system, and got an error. Something along the lines of being unable to execute an /etc/rc.d/rc.X runlevel script(6 i think?). I powered-cycled the system, and now I can't login. Rather than show my hos [17:57] should have used slapt-get [17:57] I booted off of the installation cd and mounted my system under /mnt, but I'm not sure where to go from here. [17:57] *snicker* [17:58] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:58] I was thinking that the problem might be with bash(it was in the list of upgrades). [17:58] zal: sounds like your /etc/slackpkg/mirrors file is set to a slack32 mirror instead of a slack64 one [17:58] the first symptom is a busted bash :) [17:58] GooseYArd: doh. i bet that is it. [17:58] i did the same thing [17:58] I dont recall a bash update for 13 [17:59] several other people did also [17:59] ardy: going from -13 to -current was when I did it [17:59] i just used search in vim and probably skipped the 64bit mirrors [17:59] ouch.. :< [17:59] alwaqys in the details :) [18:00] its not too bad to fix though [18:00] that would explain why i couldn't find anything wrong when i looked at the system under /mnt [18:00] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:00] you just have to find the list of the ones that got updated, then grab the x86_64 ones and reinstall em [18:00] no lasting damage :) [18:01] so just grab the log, fix the mirror, and manually update them all/ [18:01] yep i think I had to do bash by hand first to get slackpkg to run [18:01] i just reverted to the bash pkg on the dvd i had laying around [18:02] i can just install them off the dvd [18:03] sveva65 (n=sverre@unaffiliated/sveva65) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:04] alright, i'm off to do that. thanks for the help GooseYArd [18:04] zaltekk (n=zaltekk@host-64-234-29-96.nctv.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:04] no problem, good luck! [18:05] im going to whip up a slackpkg patch for that [18:08] sQuEE (n=narya@190.31.135.217) joined ##slackware. [18:11] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:12] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.17) left irc: [18:13] what would be good to protect the unwary is a little script to run that puts instructions on the screen informing users that slackpkg is not configured correctly and to edit /etc/slackpkg/mirrors to a mirror and with the correct version etc... [18:14] Huh, the blender slackbuild is just a repackaging of the binary. [18:14] imagine that [18:15] Pat does that with firefox too (for the 32 bit build) [18:16] teckan (n=teckan@p5B0CF3F9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:16] i dont see a problem with a pre-compiled binary so long as it is from an open source and is built and runs good [18:19] slackpkg could at least notice the arch of a package is i486, and say "the current arch is x86_64, but you are about to install an i486 package. Are you *sure* this is what you want?" [18:20] or ship mirrors.i486 and mirrors.x86_64 files (each containing only the appropriate mirrors), and require the user to copy one or the other to /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [18:22] yeah, that mirror file *could* be cleaned up [18:22] or the mirrors in the list could be listed without the last directory: ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.slackware.com/pub, and slackpkg could append the "slackware-13.0" or "slackware64-13.0" itself [18:23] Write the patch and send it to PiterPunk ... [18:23] thats a good idea, have the slackpkg command append it with the arch command [18:26] would have to append the slackware version too [18:26] I think that the beta slackpkg PiterPunk has released, checks the architecture [18:27] alienBOB: might do. Not have a chance to work on it for a few days though, I bet PiterPunk could make the changes in 1/10 the time it'd take me [18:27] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:27] cat /etc/slackware-version [18:28] those two commands (cat & arch) would make it work [18:29] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-106-132.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [18:31] what if there is no /etc/slackpkg/mirrors file, and when slackpkg is first run it checks slackware-version and arch and builds one with that info so theres no mistaking [18:33] The-Croupier (n=agapi@77.49.107.103.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:35] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:36] good thought, there'd need to be a mirrors.template of some kind. It's the same thing as my previous idea, except you'd be doing it once for all the mirrors, and I'd be doing it only for the selected mirror, every time the program runs (six of one, half a dozen of the other, I think) [18:36] is it fairly safe to upgrade ruby to -current while keeping everything else as -stable? [18:36] no [18:36] why? [18:37] because -current isn't meant to be mixed with stable [18:37] hmm [18:37] any package that depends on ruby will break [18:37] oh [18:37] why not just get the slackbuild from current and rebuild it in stable? [18:38] read through the changelog for all of the ruby activity, it's not easy to drop-in [18:38] that seems reasonable [18:38] then you will have to rebuild every package that depends on ruby [18:38] i see [18:38] yes but if the package on -current is a binary repackage, your chance of being able to mix it with stable is higher [18:38] (example: firefox) [18:38] firefox isn't a binary repackage on 64 bit [18:39] it's not? o.O [18:39] nope, read the slackbuild [18:39] only on the 32 bit [18:39] Action: Delahunt checks [18:39] i just build 3.6 yesterday [18:39] *built [18:39] mozilla doesnt make binaries for other than 32bit [18:39] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] where is the -current slackbuild? [18:40] in source/xap/mozilla-firefox [18:40] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:40] ah, ok [18:40] wow [18:41] The-spiki (n=spiki@77-105-33-215.dialup.sezampro.yu) left irc: Connection timed out [18:41] is there a way to find out which packages need ruby so that I know which ones to rebuild? [18:42] does anyone know if firefox building against libnotify is new in firefox 3.6? it wasn't in the -current slackbuild [18:42] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-23-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:42] manwichmakeameal: libnotify isnt part of Slackware.. [18:42] at least not yet [18:43] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:43] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [18:43] i know, but the -current slackbuild doesnt even mention libnotify, but with 3.6 you have to use --disable-libnotify [18:43] why would you want to disable it? [18:43] because it's not part of a stock slackware system [18:43] i don't have it on mine [18:43] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:44] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:44] oh [18:46] if i do `slackpkg search ruby` and I get a list of apps, does that mean each one of those apps use ruby to run? [18:47] redtape (n=redtape@145-116-228-165.uilenstede.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:48] macavity (n=macavity@212088073003.static.sonofon.dk) left irc: "leaving" [18:48] i wouldn't think so. does nano really need ruby? [18:48] probably not lol [18:48] so is there any way to see what depends on ruby? [18:50] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-40-229.multimo.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [18:51] update it and see what breaks? [18:51] ha, very true [18:51] not much should though [18:51] google for "depends on ruby" [18:52] Delahunt, did you even try that? [18:52] yeah i am trying it right now 8-S [18:53] didn't realize that would be almost pointless to do so 8-S [18:53] :) [18:54] well, i dont think many of the apps that i use depend on ruby [18:54] why do you want to update it? [18:54] because it's faster [18:54] idk [18:55] i probably shouldnt [18:55] 'idk'. epic reply [18:55] upgrading for the sake of upgrading, while still realizing there may be potential negative consequences [18:56] Reticenti, just curious. ruby 1.8 -> 1.9 can be a little tricky, so I figured you had a good reason [18:56] Immundus (n=obi@e179136004.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [18:56] ah, no good reason [18:56] I'm learning ruby right now, and I just wanted the newest version [18:57] aah, see, there's a valid reason :) [18:58] is it a good reason though lol [18:58] i am listening to the police scanner, some homeowner comes home to find his house burgeled, so homeowner calls the cops while parked in the street, now both the cops and homeowner are chasing the thieves in their cars [18:58] epic fail [19:00] haha [19:00] Reticenti: depends on what the differences between the ruby versions are. Chances are that especially at the beginning the version of ruby doesn't matter too muc.h [19:01] yeah [19:01] thanks [19:01] nix_chix0r (n=hellokit@97-127-221-37.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:01] immi (n=obi@e179137177.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [19:02] Immundus (n=obi@e179136004.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:02] immi (n=obi@e179137177.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. 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[19:55] zmyrgel (n=zmyrgel@hoasnet-fe22dd00-59.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:55] matu (n=matu@client80-83-40-113.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:56] matu (n=matu@client80-83-40-113.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [19:56] thats something i hate about gnome, lots of what would be otherwise great gtk based apps require too much gnome specific kludge [19:57] <|Slacker|> yeah [19:57] moks107 (n=shim@217.17.252.202) joined ##slackware. [19:58] gconf is actually pretty light - just a method of storing configuration stuf [19:58] how hard would it be to hack something like chrome to use just a .conf file instead of gconf? anyone know? [19:59] i tried building something like that before, so i figure ok, build one or two gnome based things to satisfy dependencies, next thing you know to satisfy the dependencies of those gnome packages you have to build more gnome stuff and before you know it you got half of gnome built ;p [20:00] <|Slacker|> gnome should change its name to snowball [20:00] <|Slacker|> each compilation makes it bigger and bigger [20:02] like Windows installation [20:02] vista=16G [20:02] <|Slacker|> yeah...lol [20:03] anyone running multilib + GoogleEarth? here it crashes [20:04] moks107 (n=shim@217.17.252.202) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:04] powtrix: yes. it works. Do you have OpenGL drivers installed? [20:05] from nvidia or? [20:05] from whatever your videocard is. [20:05] opengl is working [20:05] Richlv (n=rich@80.232.234.137) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:05] moks107 (n=shim@217.17.252.202) joined ##slackware. [20:06] powtrix: you use nvidia drivers? [20:06] yes [20:06] did you reinstall the nvidia drivers after you installed the multilib packages and installed nvidias 32bits compat stuff (it should prompt for that) [20:06] before it was working, now it fails to start [20:06] hm i dont remember, could be that [20:07] brb [20:09] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [20:10] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-23-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:10] BP{k}: when you said if I use Nvidia driver I use nvidia-driver Slackbuild. [20:11] esom (n=loch@58.47.106.68) joined ##slackware. [20:11] hello [20:11] Itself does not install 32-bit i think [20:11] <|Slacker|> hello [20:12] theblackerbox (n=sammo@92.25.242.121) joined ##slackware. [20:12] Can I update kde4.2 to kde4.3.4 in slackware-current? [20:14] esom: No, you can't just mix-and-match. Upgrading to slackware-current is an all or nothing job. [20:14] powtrix_: you run -current right? [20:14] yes [20:15] okay, then figuring out how to install nvidia drivers shouldn't be too much of a problem. [20:15] just reinstalling should fix then? [20:16] powtrix_, you're missing the point. you need to rebuild them after installin multilib, so that the 32-bit opengl stuff is built too [20:16] does anybody use the kde aurorae theme engine? [20:16] let me try [20:16] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-23-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "leaving" [20:17] powtrix_: again, if you run -current. I expect you to know how to do stuff like that. [20:17] bah. [20:20] well [20:20] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-072-182-027.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:20] rebuild/reinstalled nvidia-driver/nvidia-kernel, but same crashlog [20:22] do i need to rmmod nvidia and modprobe it manually? [20:23] modprobe -r, btw ;-) [20:25] the nvidia-driver pkg has only lib64/ files, not lib/. well removing module; [20:25] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:27] I don't use nvidia, but I'm pretty sure you can have it build both the 32 and 64-bit gl library [20:27] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [20:27] powtrix: hmm strange, well I never used the nvidia slackbuilds, I just use the build in installer and it used to ask me if I wanted to install the 32bit compat libraries. [20:28] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-072-182-027.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] esom (n=loch@58.47.106.68) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:33] wow [20:33] you guys realize, if we were running fedora or gayhat or whatever [20:33] we'd be using rpm [20:33] rpm -Ivh or whatever shit commands [20:33] that just hit me. [20:36] The-Croupier (n=agapi@77.49.107.103.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:36] wow, do you guys realise, if we had someone named jeev he would pop in and make stupid comments on occasion, that just hit me [20:44] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-20-142.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:47] zing! [20:48] Action: ardya pets jeev [20:48] he's the official channel mascot, like a little dummy! [20:49] Action: Delahunt just LOVES theregister(.com) [20:49] hba (n=hba@201.132.105.246) joined ##slackware. [20:49] biting the hand that feeds IT [20:50] s/com/co\.uk/ [20:51] "if I wanted to install the 32bit compat libraries." -- it's the problem i think [20:52] the slackbuild package does not ask about 32bit [20:53] Possibly. How is that a problem? [20:53] looks like its time for somebody to change that slackbuild to include that feature [20:53] the crashlog? it shows the logo and closes after few secs [20:54] Pig_Pen: well slackbuilds at sbo are build on a standard install of Slackware. [20:54] multilib != standard slackware. [20:54] are you saying that the package manager on 64bit should make sure that you're not installing 32 bit packages and visa versa? [20:54] Action: Delahunt that's why /me recommends [20:54] Action: Delahunt not going multilib (that and stabbing your enter key every so often) [20:55] however due to needing Skype i end up using 32bit only (sad but true) [20:55] http://pastebin.com/d7fb6bede - the nvidia-driver-190.53-x86_64 does build 32bit libs. [20:55] i was tempted today to install mandriva but then remembered that i don't trust their partitioning portion of the setup [20:56] was thinking that even if it understood LVM running on LUKS it would probably just break [20:56] ill remove it and install by ./nvidia binary [20:56] powtrix: how does that pastebin show 32bit libs? [20:57] it does not show [20:57] brb [20:57] damn you Pig_Pen [20:58] jeev, is your sister around? [20:58] no thrice` [20:58] she went to buy some new thumbs, i mean tampons.. same thing. [20:58] O__o [20:58] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-23-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:58] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [20:58] jeev you stepped right in to that one, i could not resist [20:59] Pig_Pen, i dont step into things [20:59] your mom steps into things [20:59] (like shoes) [21:00] lol so gay [21:03] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:03] yeah "your mom" jokes are gay [21:03] which is why i intentionally lampoon them by making horrible ones [21:04] confusid (n=confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] urmom was lampooned [21:05] googleing I found this site on how to install flash player. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/dont-know-how-to-install-flash-player-in-slackware-651503/ [21:06] and when I follow it I get a file that I do not know what to do with [21:06] the file is libflashplayer.so [21:06] What do I need to google to make this file usable? [21:06] so the problem was the nvidia-driver does not serve 32-lib when installing the 64-bit package [21:07] put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins [21:07] Pig_Pen the .so is the plugin? [21:07] now it's working via ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-190.53-pkg2.run [21:07] <|Slacker|> yes [21:07] <|Slacker|> it is confusid [21:08] is it safe for me to assume all .so files are plugins? [21:08] re-l (n=re-l@c-98-197-118-188.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] And TY! [21:08] no [21:08] k [21:08] .so = shared object [21:08] confusid, hell no! haha [21:08] like an old girlfriend [21:08] What reading material would be good for a slackware newbie? [21:08] :) [21:08] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [21:09] rofl [21:09] confusid, slackbook [21:09] ty [21:09] confusid, http://www.slackbook.org/ [21:09] who's ty? [21:09] ty as Thank yall :) [21:10] EW I'VE BEEN AOL'D! [21:10] ardya, you ARE an aoler. [21:10] lol :) [21:10] this coming from a terrorist [21:10] yea right ardya [21:11] brb [21:11] haha [21:11] well at least we're not using rpm 8-P [21:11] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.103.38) left irc: "Leaving" [21:12] jeev is too stupid to be a terrorist [21:12] on the contrary, he's very bright [21:12] for hos own good [21:12] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [21:12] heil Bob! [21:14] ok.. I have ~/mozilla but no plugins directory. Can I just creat the directory and place the file in it and it work? [21:14] confusid, yes. [21:14] :) [21:14] ops [21:14] Sure but a browser restart might be necessary. [21:14] no. [21:14] .mozilla [21:15] confusid, hold on [21:15] not mozilla [21:15] /lib/mozilla/ [21:15] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:15] /home/robert/.mozilla/plugins [21:15] /home/robert/.mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so [21:15] /home/robert/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer32.so [21:15] Channel flood from Delahunt -- kicking [21:15] /home/robert/.mozilla/plugins/libmozsvgdec.la [21:15] /home/robert/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [21:15] Delahunt kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [21:15] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-068.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [21:15] /home/robert/.mozilla/firefox/pyj8jdvk.default/searchplugins [21:15] /home/robert/.mozilla/firefox/pyj8jdvk.default/searchplugins/youtube.xml [21:15] sorry doh [21:15] sweet, another Darwin At Work(R) [21:15] Action: Delahunt bows [21:16] i could swear i thought there was only like 3 files in there (my badd, next time | head -n 3 ) [21:16] /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ [21:16] maybe the flood comment slackboy makes should be appened to [flood, Darwin Award] [21:16] oh.. sweat other .so files [21:16] vncsnvs, we have been through this before howerver. if /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins does not work, ~/.mozilla/plugins should [21:17] Delahunt, but, 4 firfox. [21:17] um, yes, that's for firefox [21:17] /usr/lib/firefox [21:17] would the ~/.mozilla/plugins work only for that user and /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins be for all? [21:17] it shares the ~/.mozilla directory [21:17] yes it would be only for that user [21:17] ty [21:17] confusid, /usr/lib/firefox [21:18] but if you are worried about it getting copied over when you create a new user, that's what /etc/skel is for [21:18] u can have just 1 copy... no many. /usr/lib/firefox [21:18] but if u want lots, no problem [21:19] u can go further... [21:19] http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html [21:19] I see 3 .so files in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins but /usr/lib/firefox has many other .so files.. which would be considered the standard or right place? [21:19] /usr/lib/firefox /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.5/ [21:19] if /usr/lib/firefox doesn't work, remove it and try a per-user in ~/.mozilla/plugins [21:20] it's up to you but recently we had someone come in here for which the global (i.e. /usr/lib/*) type installation didn't work [21:20] confusid, if u use mozila... /usr/lib/mozilla, if u use firefox /usr/lib/firefox [21:20] and personally i don't feel comfortable giving flash root permissions [21:20] if you put the flash plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin you should change ownership of the plugin to root giving it the user group as executable but read only so no whacky website try to write to it (paranoid mode) [21:21] Pig_Pen, right. [21:21] create a firefox group ahahah [21:22] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) joined ##slackware. [21:22] if you look, slackware already has /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and everything in there is 755 so you should be good (but it's always smart to check permissions) [21:22] :) [21:22] yeah, reasonable [21:22] case in point, however, it's not wrong for "mozilla" directories if you use firefox [21:23] fwiw you download firefox at mozilla.com [21:23] http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/flash.html#install-linux [21:23] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 10290936 2009-10-27 22:26 libflashplayer.so [21:23] hahaha "into your plugins directory" hey mozilla, it would be nice if you put in that faq WHERE that directory is, for others to know [21:23] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10278616 2009-12-08 01:08 libflashplayer.so* [21:23] 8-) [21:24] Delahunt, hahahaha [21:24] it's a very good way [21:24] i hope. [21:25] http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/productinfo/instructions/#section-3 [21:25] step 1 . "install those perl modules" step 2. compile the kernel.. aheuieahuihae [21:25] yours is a different file size than mine [21:25] and flash's website ALSO doesn't specify [21:25] wow [21:26] Delahunt, are you a corrupted ketchup bottle ? [21:26] jeev, no and i don't use rpm either 8-P [21:26] Delahunt, it's a good way... it is like -> "noobs, learn first where the plugins directory is" [21:26] what is an 8-P [21:26] wtf. [21:26] :P with glasses and a nose [21:26] plugins? :p [21:27] i know this 8====D pinochio! ahha [21:27] Action: epoch prefers trend-setting emoticons [21:27] ?.? [21:27] o.O [21:27] lol [21:27] i need some thc now. [21:28] s/need/want/ [21:28] s/now/all the time/ [21:28] s/thc/poon/ [21:29] well that's an entirely new statement now. [21:29] finished qmail installation... now a joint. it's fair [21:29] isn't it? [21:29] you were supposed to joint DURING qmail installation [21:29] vncsnvs, great job.. now remove it and install postfix [21:29] Action: epoch shows you the manual [21:30] hahahahahaha [21:30] jeev, i don't like sendmail. [21:30] HAHAHA [21:30] i said postfix [21:30] so ? [21:31] wow nevermind [21:31] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-072-182-027.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:31] man [21:31] for me. [21:32] imho, postfix is a crap. [21:32] i have one crappin arround. [21:32] it's a crap! [21:33] requeuing the messages all the time..... [21:33] poor mailscanner integration.. [21:33] depends lot's on other packages... [21:33] and so on... [21:34] Action: epoch has already finished smoking your dope [21:34] epoch, ahhaha gotta roll yet. [21:34] ooooook [21:34] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: [21:34] ardya (i=ardy@unaffiliated/ardya) left ##slackware ("BitchX: There is no reason."). [21:35] [21:35] _W_ [21:35] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:35] the communists will revolt. [21:35] Action: epoch out [21:35] heil Bob and all libertarians! [21:36] hail [21:38] let's drink coke, eat mcdonalds, buy nike! [21:38] it's BETTER [21:38] hauihaeihaeiuhe [21:38] f@ck all communists! [21:38] dieeeeeeee [21:39] <|Slacker|> lol [21:39] no let's just pretend we did 8-) [21:39] I downloaded the tar.gz from flash web site and tar zxvf and it gave me the same .so* file but no flashplayer-installer* as what the howto for flashplayer say's from there site. [21:39] haahhahaahha [21:39] lol lol lol [21:39] claps [21:40] the instructions are old [21:40] put the .so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins (global) or ~/.mozilla/plugins (per-user) [21:40] confusid, u're using slackware 13? [21:40] 12? [21:40] 11? [21:42] please man, google it [21:43] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] i hope u can read [21:45] vncsnvs yes 13 [21:46] please [21:46] http://slack.edurebecca.com/diversos/flash-player-slackware-13/ [21:47] awesome non-english link [21:48] i can translate [21:48] lets see [21:48] step by step [21:48] or, better, you could stop talking [21:49] tar -zxvf package.tar.gz [21:49] <|Slacker|> lol! [21:49] thrice`: ++ [21:49] cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins [21:49] Delahunt already gave the simple procedure :> [21:49] confusid, got it? [21:49] (as much as it hurts me to admit) ;) [21:49] lol [21:50] Action: Delahunt hands thrice` some aspirin for the headache that probably caused him 8-P [21:50] don't buy condoms, his dick's only to pee [21:50] o.O [21:51] vncsnvs i did what that say's and just redid taht but not installed after restarting firefox [21:51] my god. [21:51] pvt-me [21:51] is there any directory like /usr/lib/firefox-**version** ??? [21:52] Action: epoch facepalms in rapid succession [21:53] no there is not unless you create it [21:53] man find [21:54] er yes there is, my bad [21:54] /usr/lib/firefox -> /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.6 (or whatever version) [21:55] Weird0ne (n=rogue@99-160-155-34.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:02] Bartron (n=Bartron@83.119.172.124) left irc: "Leaving" [22:04] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) left irc: "Leaving" [22:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] Immundus (n=obi@e179137177.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "when in trouble when in doubt run in circles scream and shout" [22:09] can somebody with slack64 cat /etc/slackware-version and show me what youve got [22:10] $ARCH doesn't matter, it's 13.0.0.0.0.0.0 for both [22:10] wanted to be sure about the release string [22:10] well the 0 column i mean [22:10] Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 exactly [22:11] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] kewl thank you sir [22:12] compmstr (n=corey@adsl-074-185-008-197.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:13] Steaki (n=steaki@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ffddc000-253.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:16] has anyone experimented with marking portions of the FS immutable or read-only? i was thinking about it in relation to the netbook that's coming in the mail [22:16] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:16] greetings and salutations [22:18] hi andarius [22:18] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:18] dela yah I do it for almost everything [22:18] slackwarebob (n=bobby@76.249.232.61) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:18] anything outside of /var /tmp and /home [22:20] i was actually thinking about running a fdupes on it (find duplicates) [22:20] Weird0ne (n=rogue@99-160-155-34.lightspeed.bkfdca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:20] can fdupes determine symlinks and ignore them? [22:21] i forget, i hope so [22:21] i would check that obviously [22:21] maybe i'd get lucky and help improve slackware by finding yet more duplicate files that could become symlinks [22:22] yeah, you dont want to delete symlinks, also /usr/X11 & /usr/X11R6 & /usr/X11R6.bak are something to consider [22:25] all that /usr/X11* stuff is actually obsolete but is kept for compatability purposes for older apps that still like to see it there [22:25] well i'd run it with results to a text file, not in "delete" mode [22:26] and (like you mentioned) hopefully it can tell if it's a symlink [22:26] i think last time i ran it (a while back) it did understand [22:27] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@c-71-62-151-44.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:28] Pat builds a fairly clean distro compared to the deb and rpm based distros so i bet fdupes wont find much [22:29] i agree [22:29] i doubt it will find anything monumental [22:29] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. 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[22:51] i built fdupes as a user edited the makefile to prefix in to ~/ and its running [22:52] 30 percent done, lets see what it comes up with [22:52] http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9572/browsers.jpg [22:54] good comparison fire|bird [22:54] fire|bird, lol lol lol [22:54] Pig_Pen: It's sure in favor of opera it seems, imagine the cost that chair would be. :P [22:54] yeah, ha ha [22:55] IE and Chrome... nice comparisson [22:55] and then there's chrome, a multicolored training potty. :P [22:55] there should be a big spike on the chair seat for IE [22:55] fhobia, lol lol lol [22:55] fhobia: IE should be the same wooden chair, but with one leg missing. :P [22:55] from what i seen of google chrome on my brother's windows pc it seems to favor google's advertising [22:55] probably the spike is on wrog side. [22:55] ha ha ha [22:55] probably the spike is on wrong side. [22:56] but a patch will put another spike for free. [22:56] what chair would "lynx" be ? [22:56] Delahunt: fdupes found a heck of a lot of something in /usr/doc/swig/* the buffer in the xterm does not go back that far [22:56] fhobia: a lawn chair :P [22:56] lynx is the great system wich involves all these [22:56] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.76.57.89) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:57] firefox's chair is good enough for me, for general purpose web browsing [22:57] i preffer IE. [22:57] on the next trashbin [22:58] Pig_Pen, can't it be redirected to /tmp like to log it? [22:58] Pig_Pen: yeah, not bad, I see that exact chair in the sales ads each week, about $50, but if you took into account all the addons, it'd probably be a fancier chair than Opera's. [22:58] fire|bird, one leg missing.. .hahahahahahahaha [22:58] lol [22:59] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-141-152-185-224.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] heya MLanden [22:59] heya,folks [22:59] not sure, have not tried. but /usr/doc/* is 128 meg - it does not bother me but if i had a small drive on an old PC i would move them out of there to /home/doc and symlink it back to /usr/doc or something [23:00] Evenin',fire|bird..how's it goin"? [23:00] MLanden: http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9572/browsers.jpg :P [23:00] MLanden: I'm great, thanks, and yourself? [23:00] that is if /home was a separate disk partition [23:00] nice [23:00] c ya [23:01] another thc hour [23:02] lol,fire|bird....like the comparison to goggle's chrome [23:02] MLanden: lol, yeah. :P [23:03] spn (n=spn@adsl-68-122-216-61.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:04] fire|bird, guess this could be used for comparison with any of the text based browsers like lynx,links etc. http://www.mymodelships.com/product_images/pid_4406-Amish-Saddle-Bar-Stool-with-Wood-Seat-10.jpg [23:05] hahaha [23:06] strange that wasn't used in the comparison..guess focussing on the top GUI browsers [23:06] yeah [23:07] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.23.50) joined ##slackware. [23:07] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.90.20) left irc: Connection reset by peer [23:07] laters good people, have a great weekend, its sleepytime for me [23:07] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [23:08] esom (n=loch@58.47.113.36) joined ##slackware. [23:11] matu_ (n=matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [23:13] zalost (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:13] after installing a program do I need to logout and back into KDE inorder for the program to show in the Aplications menu? [23:15] confusid: not if the package was created correctly [23:15] it say's it was installed .. it is GoogleErth [23:16] Earth* [23:16] zalost (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:16] confusid, look in /usr/share/applications [23:16] /usr/bin/update-desktop-database -q usr/share/applications >/dev/null 2>&1 [23:17] run that command as root [23:17] lurker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:17] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:17] lurker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:17] lurker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:17] ty [23:17] sorry typo [23:18] /usr/bin/update-desktop-database -q /usr/share/applications [23:19] thanks,XGizzmo....was tryin' to recall the update command for the menu [23:20] cherife (n=cherife@123.121.0.63) left irc: "Bye" [23:21] oooh... I'm in love with slack [23:21] Where may I find codec's for slack? [23:21] Plasmius (i=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) joined ##slackware. [23:21] confusid, music codec? video? [23:22] video [23:22] older dvd's [23:22] if that matters [23:22] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [23:23] matu (n=matu@client80-83-40-113.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:25] _juan (i=500@190.204.142.118) joined ##slackware. [23:26] lurker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:26] Rain (n=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) joined ##slackware. [23:27] confusid, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/mplayer-codecs/ [23:28] MLanden :) ty [23:29] <_juan> are the kdelibs in slackware current 64 built with zeroconf support? [23:29] confusid, here's a article that may help you http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/sdeg/multimedia.htm [23:29] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:30] thank you [23:30] confusid, np [23:30] tuvok302Lappy (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-203.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:32] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:33] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [23:34] _juan: i don't know, but typing in zeroconf:// into konqueror says "kde has been built without zeroconf support" [23:35] esom (n=loch@58.47.113.36) left irc: "leaving" [23:35] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:37] <_juan> that is exactly what i want to change notKlaatu [23:39] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:40] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [23:40] fire|bird, guess this could be used for uzbl http://www.vivavi.com/catalog/images/ChairDark.jpg [23:41] lol [23:41] sure could [23:42] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [23:43] using tar -zxvf with a file.tar.bz2 would that be correct? [23:43] No, j rather than z. [23:43] tar xvjf [23:43] ty [23:44] not that I'm poking at uzbl,it's an intersting apporach [23:44] s/intesting/interesting [23:44] you can also just use "xvf" and tar will pick the compression on its own [23:44] ah nice [23:44] the "-" being optional ;) [23:45] v4nelle (n=van@79.103.187.101.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:45] GooseYArd (n=GooseYAr@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:50] _juan (i=500@190.204.142.118) left irc: "Leaving" [23:50] GooseYArd (n=GooseYAr@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [23:51] speakin' of browsers,I see firefox just released 3.6 final...anyone takin' it for a spin yet? [23:51] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.109.230) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:52] MLanden: indeed, I have here. [23:52] fire|bird, good footprint? [23:53] fire|bird: well there is a big suprise ;) [23:53] lol [23:53] MLanden: seems so, yeah. Feels a bit snappier too. [23:53] BP{k}: haha, isn't it though? :P [23:55] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:55] BP{k}, what big surprise is that? [23:57] fire|bird, cool [00:00] --- Sat Jan 23 2010