[00:00] rworkman: you remember what else hal needs from gnome to work? [00:00] maybe I'm missing something for hal [00:01] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("rally 'round the family. Pocket full o'shells"). [00:04] Xgates: I can paste ldd output of my working hal-device-manager, if that will help? [00:04] rachael (~rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:05] don't know [00:05] but if you want on pastebin then... [00:05] at this point I just want to make sure I have everything hal needs which I think I do [00:05] http://www.pastebin.org/411563 [00:06] if I look in /var/log/messages the usb drive shows up at the bottom when I plug it in, it's just that for some reason pcmanfm isn't so that must be a hal issue [00:08] mine on the top yours on the bottom: [00:08] http://www.pastebin.org/411566 [00:08] looks ok to me [00:09] What about linux-game? [00:09] this sucks I had to reinstall Slack and I had everything working perfect and I thought I remembered how to get this darn thing working [00:09] linux-game? [00:10] err, linux-gate [00:10] my pastebin shows it look again [00:10] http://www.pastebin.org/411566 [00:10] my results on top [00:11] Ah, right, sorry, didn't see it because of indentation [00:11] :P [00:11] thing is I also have a fat32 partition on this drive and last I remember there wasn't much to at least get that to show up [00:11] crap crap crap [00:11] Action: Xgates bangs head [00:12] just dont bang it in the crap [00:12] if you do you will have to sit outside [00:13] ;p [00:13] I'm SO BUMMEd I've sat here all day trying to get this to work [00:13] shake_ (~shake_@67.224.69.58) left irc: Quit: shake_ [00:14] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:14] anyone feel like a challenge? [00:14] lol [00:14] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:14] I swear it wasn't this hard last time... [00:14] hmmm [00:14] hi andarius :) [00:14] sure, xgates; what did you have in mind? power drinking? log toss? [00:15] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] someone who want's to install pcmanfm and see if they can get it to automount of course you'd need to be running somethng like only Blackbox or Flux hopefully no kde so nothing gets in the way [00:16] Xgates: i have been trying to get my palm to sync for a year... you cant be bummed as me [00:16] LOL [00:16] then it's power drinking [00:16] log toss does nothing to get rid of being bummed [00:17] Action: KaMii has hotchocolate [00:17] just gives you a bum back [00:17] I'd say it's time to get a new distro if you can't get it to snyc messing that long [00:17] uva_ (~uva@111-240-236-245.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] Xgates: maybe you were using http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.1/system/ivman/ [00:17] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.35.65) joined ##slackware. [00:18] its not the distro [00:18] i'm out of ideas, but well, it happens sometimes, you forget a little detail, and you can seem to find it, btw, any message on dmesg ? [00:18] i tried it in others as well [00:18] it will sync as root [00:18] but not as user [00:18] hmm wheel group I wonder if I need to be in that [00:19] ahh but I did make a backup of group and I wasn't in wheel before [00:20] ViN86 (ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-THREE-EIGHTY.MIT.EDU) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:21] Prodego (~Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego) joined ##slackware. [00:22] fatalnix (~fatalnix@cpe-67-253-110-223.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:27] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) got netsplit. [00:27] Dominian (dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) got netsplit. [00:27] feinom (feinom@feinom.forcebox.org) got netsplit. 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[00:32] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) returned to ##slackware. [00:32] feinom (feinom@feinom.forcebox.org) returned to ##slackware. [00:32] madbear (~dude@c-6c2ae655.09-14-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) returned to ##slackware. [00:32] jafnhar (~jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) returned to ##slackware. [00:32] sukaeto (~sukaeto@host75-54.student.udel.edu) returned to ##slackware. [00:32] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) returned to ##slackware. [00:32] jgor (~jgor@loki.indiecom.org) returned to ##slackware. [00:33] wb Dominian [00:33] heya,folks [00:33] hey MLanden [00:33] heya, shonudo [00:33] rirombo, where did that script come from? [00:33] yeah bartol split apparently [00:33] Night all. [00:33] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:34] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-31-251.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:36] shonudo: From my head :) I'd like a little utility that will take a word as an argument and search MANIFEST.TXT (from Slackware CD) and show which package(s) supply files that match the word [00:36] If that makes any sense at all.. [00:37] For example I would type "findpkg libpanel" and it will print out "a/aaa_elflibds-13.1-i486-1.txz" [00:37] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.35.65) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:38] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.35.65) joined ##slackware. [00:38] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:38] what doesn't (didn't) make sense is asking why the script does a certain thing... [00:39] it's your script [00:39] you're the only one who knows why it does anything [00:39] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:40] I suppose I asked that way because I was under impression that "/Package/ { pkg = $3 }" would only be executed on lines that contain the word "Package", and awk isn't doing that. [00:40] Wiren (~skg@64.20.169.162) left irc: [00:41] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout (0.0 Seconds) [00:41] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.12.51.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:41] no, i got it once you stated what you wanted the script to do.. 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[01:17] hey guys [01:17] y0 [01:17] well I've tried everything under the sun I know for getting pcmanfm to automount my usb I'm convinced it's something to do with hal or polkit that I haven't figured [01:18] anyone here by chance pop in that's using pcmanfm 0.5.2? [01:18] plain old pmount here, sorry :/ [01:18] you use pmount for pcmanfm? [01:18] and i've realized i've to update the slackbuild on sbo since there were 4 releases since last one [01:19] nope, just run pmount when needed [01:19] j0z__ (unix@201.22.11.79.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:19] ahh ok [01:20] the usb shows up in /var/log/messages so I know the system sees it just pcmanfm doesn't and since it uses Hal for this there's got be something to do with it I'm missing [01:20] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) left irc: Quit: velusip [01:20] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:20] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:21] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [01:21] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:21] MLanden: hey you in? Don't you use pcmanfm? [01:21] I swear he was the one who helped me last time, at least I think.... [01:23] Xgates: i'm here...which pcmanfm? [01:23] hey [01:23] don't you use 0.5.2? [01:23] also [01:24] does anyone know besides pygtk, polkit-1 and polkit-gnome what hal needs for volume management? [01:24] yeah...on my laptop...iirc 0.5.1 [01:25] I think you helped me before getting mine to automount [01:25] I had to reisntall Slack and I'm stuck trying to get 0.5.2 to automount my usb drives [01:25] I've tried every dang thing I know all I can think possibly at the moment is I have something missing I didn't install that hal needs [01:26] j0z__ (unix@201.22.11.79.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:27] am0rphis (~qwe@91.145.208.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:27] Xgates: ok...any errors with dbus? [01:27] meanign where would I see any? [01:27] meaning... [01:28] pcmanfm shows no errors when I start it from the term [01:33] Xgates: ok....you included yourself to the necessary groups(plugdev,cdrom) right? messagebus daemon running? hald daemon running? [01:36] I'm in the groups plus in /etc/login.defs I added in plugdev -- CONSOLE_GROUPS floppy:audio:cdrom:video:scanner:plugdev [01:36] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [01:36] as far as I know hal and messagebus are running ok [01:36] novacrust (~Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) joined ##slackware. [01:36] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [01:37] Hi, what is the latest Slack? 13.2? [01:37] I checked hal eariler not messagebus, how I checkk them [01:37] 13.1 [01:37] Okay thanks. [01:37] np [01:38] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-211.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:38] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:40] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:40] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-20-75.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:40] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [01:40] riza: if you go to a mirror (like http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/slackware ), then you can see what the latest is [01:40] gh (~gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: Quit: .. [01:41] sorry - http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/ [01:41] See it. [01:41] I should burn a new one. [01:41] Just to be safe. [01:41] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:41] I'm going to install Slack13.1... [01:42] have fun riza :) [01:42] Can gnash be considered as an alternative to flash? Or is it just as bad as it's name? [01:42] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.12.51.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:42] Xgates: ok..when you right click to mount,you said no errors in terminal,right? [01:42] haha [01:42] Just concerned that going to 13.1 will make me.. well, cry. [01:42] riza: Why's that? [01:43] Going back up the entire ~, then install, then well, hope that 13.1 can pick up the stuff from the current ~. [01:43] MLanden: no the drives don't even show up in pcmanfm when I plug it in [01:43] nothing there... [01:43] also in the wiki: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/PCManFM_build_and_setup_guide [01:44] I did: [01:44] mkdir -p ~/.config/autostart [01:44] cp /etc/xdg/autostart/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1.desktop ~/.config/autostart [01:44] MLanden: /var/log/messages shows the drive when I plug it in so the system sees it [01:44] john_dee: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?30357 it seems to be able to play youtube videos with a svn version or a quick hack so it seems viable :) [01:45] Xgates: ok [01:46] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:47] worldwarcheese (~worldwarc@pool-72-93-158-241.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:47] man I've been at it all day, all I can make of it since it uses hal is that I either don't have something setup for it or the polkit or I'm missing some packages that hal needs [01:48] gbonvehi: Wow. It can play youtube? Wow! [01:48] %) [01:48] all I know you need for hal are pygtk and polkit-1 and polkit-gnome [01:48] Well, gotta give it a try anyway [01:48] replay (replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [01:48] Hm.. [01:48] Shoot.. [01:49] I just realized Slack doesn't come with truecrypt, why not?. [01:49] novacrust (~Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:50] Xgates: i think we already discussed this so you must know from memory, is dbus running? i know hald is [01:51] gbonvehi: I checked hal and dbus eariler as far as I know they are but forgot what the cmd I used to check [01:51] how can I check? [01:51] ps aux | grep dbus [01:51] sheesh I got to start taking notes for everything I keep forgetting LOL [01:51] thanks [01:51] haha [01:51] also hal the same too? [01:51] riza: need to ask pat that question :) [01:51] yeah, but i know that's running from the conversations we had before [01:52] alisonken1lap, yay! :) [01:52] bikcmp (jason@unaffiliated/not) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:52] dbus: http://pastebin.org/411642 [01:52] XGizzmo (~XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:52] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [01:53] hal: http://www.pastebin.org/411643 [01:53] seems fine :/ [01:53] I'm going to store the txt and md5 on my website. :| [01:53] what about checking the messagebus? [01:53] XGizzmo (~XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [01:53] bikcmp (jason@slackadelic.com) joined ##slackware. [01:54] it's dbus :) [01:54] Nick change: bikcmp -> Guest13239 [01:54] novacrust (~Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) joined ##slackware. [01:54] ahh my bad ok so they are all running [01:54] BUT I read hal needs certain stuff from gnome [01:54] Downloading at 1mb per sec. Orahh! [01:54] like pygtk [01:55] riza: slackbuilds.org? [01:55] alisonken1lap, nope. [01:55] Wow found this in ##linux - http://cgi.ebay.ca/World-Famous-HUTCHISON-ANTI-GRAVITY-LAB-/130408738136?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item1e5cf76d58 [01:55] MLanden: still thinking? :) [01:55] Xgates: yeah....any luck with trying pcmanfm 0.5.1 or 0.5.0 stable? [01:55] Xgates: lshal output with the device plugged in? [01:55] riza: might want to give slackbuilds.org (or sbopkg) a try - truecrypt-6.3a is there [01:56] alisonken1lap, I haven't installed 13.1 yet. [01:56] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [01:56] riza: slackbuilds.org is not necessarily 13.1 only [01:56] 0.5.2 ran just fine for me I was using it ever since 13.1 came out and you helped me the first time around getting it going but like I said I had to reinstall Slack so I'm back to square one and I thogught I remembered everything I did before, guess not LOL [01:56] alisonken1lap, I know. I have truecrypt installed on 13 from sbo, not 13.1 because I didn't.. even get it yet. Ya know? [01:57] What is the best way, from root, to rsync /home/riza/ to the 13.1? Basically when I'm root, I create a user, then I... "rsync /backup/home/riza/ /home/riza/"? [01:57] lshal: http://www.pastebin.org/411648 [01:57] I fear that it'll make everything in /home/riza/ permission to root. :| [01:58] riza: man rsync [01:58] tar it [01:58] it will tell you the options for permissions as well [01:59] Dominian (dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:59] thrice` (thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:59] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:59] rob0 (~rob0@tuxaloosa.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:00] Dominian (dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [02:00] gbonvehi: how do you tell with lshal if the usb is being seen? I see a lot of usb stuff in it [02:00] thrice` (thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [02:00] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [02:00] rachael (~rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:00] rob0 (~rob0@tuxaloosa.org) joined ##slackware. [02:00] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:01] Xgates: goin' through the log http://wigglit.ath.cx/slackware_botlogs/slackware.log.05Jun2010 'bout 21:00 [02:02] I SEE IT ---> #996 ---> usb.vendor = 'SimpleTech' (string) [02:02] thats my usb [02:03] ahhh I see [02:03] Action: Xgates looks [02:04] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@ppp-69-215-12-128.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] Hey folks this is strange. [02:05] For 13.0 the latest nvidia driver is NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.31-pkg0.run. [02:05] Oh nvm.. I thought it was 173. [02:05] lol [02:07] And the latest is 7.0, for truecrypt.. not 6.3. Hm. [02:07] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:08] AHHH MLanden BINGO ---> HAL depends on parted... [02:08] I remember that last time and I left it out this time too [02:08] LOL [02:08] riza; if you're talking about sbo [02:08] BP{k}, yuppo! [02:08] Xgates: cool [02:09] riza: email the maintainer and ask him for an update. [02:09] I hope that's it :) [02:09] Action: Xgates installs [02:10] MLanden: do I need to restart hal and dbus now after installing that? [02:10] BP{k}, no biggie! I can make the updates myself. [02:10] I've done it before! :D [02:10] yeah I guess I do scratch that [02:10] Xgates: wouldn't hurt [02:10] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:11] riza: yes but it's nice if we have an updated version on SBo. That way *everyone* benefits, no? [02:11] BP{k}, true true. [02:11] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:13] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [02:13] MLanden: WoOT it WORKS all I needed was parted [02:13] AHHHH [02:13] Action: Xgates SCREAMS [02:14] Xgates: awesome...logs are always good for retracing steps [02:14] Action: KaMii yawns [02:14] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-223.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:14] MLanden: oh man I'm glad you had those and I saw that [02:14] ahhhh [02:14] Action: Xgates hugs MLanden [02:14] LOL [02:14] I have been at it ALL frikin day [02:15] Action: Xgates makes note now [02:15] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [02:16] MLanden: you have in yours /usr/share/pcmanfm/mount.rules ? [02:16] I found this is where you get rw support in ntfs [02:17] Xgates: dunno...have to check my laptop [02:17] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-211.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:17] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [02:18] yeah if it's there and you don't have rw support when trying a ntfs drive you need to change there [02:19] under ntfs-3g this is what I found online not sure about it though: [02:19] mount_options=uid=1000;gid=100;fmask=0113;dmask=0002;locale=;exec [02:19] ntfs section works by just making =umask=000 [02:19] Xgates: yeah...it should pcmanfm since 0.5.0...think <0.4.8 didn't [02:20] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-176.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[02:26] at least blog those notes [02:26] wiki's are good for that - especially when you're not at your computer at home :) [02:27] and make sure that blog is searched by google [02:27] reminded me of that scene from Fast Times at Ridgemont High...Learn it,Know it,Live It http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RUe02kPWvg ..;) [02:27] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-125.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:28] RaNdY (~x@shellium/member/randy) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:30] it's not much really just that I didn't have parted installed [02:31] uva (~uva@111-240-230-27.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:33] uva (~uva@111-240-230-27.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:33] uva (~uva@111-240-230-27.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:34] later guys [02:34] THANKS again! :) [02:34] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout (0.0 Seconds) [02:34] take care,Xgates..good luck [02:36] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [02:38] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:39] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:41] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-82.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:42] g4tsu (~g4tsu@178.146.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [02:42] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-176.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:42] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [02:44] huh, no pulseaudio for 13.1. [02:44] wanted to try converted lighspark flash player rpm :( [02:47] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [02:49] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@ppp-69-215-12-128.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net) left irc: Quit: Erp. So that's what kill %1 does! [02:49] slava_dp: isn't that the one with arm/ppc support? [02:49] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> m0ses [02:49] user0 (~user0@99.141.235.7) joined ##slackware. [02:50] Is it by design? [02:50] Nick change: m0ses -> tuvok302 [02:50] I mean, any operation heavy on I/O, like KDE's file search, makes X lag really bad [02:51] What am I doing wrong? [02:51] :P [02:51] MLanden, it's one of the alternative flash players, but the rpm wants to have pulseaudio (of course). [02:51] john_dee, kernel version? it's a linux scheduler problem. [02:51] Or, say, something running in vbox [02:51] slava_dp: 2.6.33.4-generic [02:51] john_dee: What you're experiencing is the result of trying to use a kernel meant for server operations in a desktop environment. Try experimenting with various schedulers, it'll help alleviate the problem. [02:51] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [02:52] RT? [02:52] slava_dp: ok [02:53] That's what I thought [02:54] john_dee, try another kernel. or, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-change-io-scheduler-for-harddisk/ [02:54] What about -rt kernels? Aren't they supposed to make userland tasks more responsive? [02:54] I would try building nice custom .34.1. [02:54] john_dee, you are talking about process scheduling, while the problem is i/o scheduling. [02:55] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [02:55] there are two main process schedulers -- CFS (mainline), BFS (patch by con colivas). there are three i/o shedulers now: CFQ, noop, deadline. [02:56] there was the anticipatory but iirc it got removed. [02:56] crap, just lost my desktop....... [02:56] either its the HDD is bad, or the MB sata controllers are bad [02:56] and i have no way of telling [02:57] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [02:57] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-125.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:57] slava_dp: I see. Thanks, for quick explanation. Not into googling atm. [02:57] I'll give it a try [02:58] john_dee, or try even reverting to 2.6.32. this is an LTS kernel branch, might work better for you. [02:58] all of a sudden, bam it just died [02:59] tried to reboot, kernel halt [03:00] rob0 (~rob0@tuxaloosa.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:00] Guest13239 (jason@slackadelic.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:00] vbatts (~vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:01] slava_dp: I'd try newer then :D [03:01] XGizzmo (~XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:01] thrice` (thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [03:01] Dominian (dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:01] PiterPunk (~piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:01] well it depends. I use .32 on one box. [03:01] trhodes (~tom@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:02] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:03] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:03] slava_dp: Any particular reason? Except that it's LTS and .33 has some other known problems that I don't encounter because I don't use that specific functions? [03:04] No real reason. I just wanted it to be this way. [03:05] tomi3074 (~tomi3074@217.117.141.42) joined ##slackware. [03:06] bikcmp (jason@slackadelic.com) joined ##slackware. [03:06] rob0 (~rob0@tuxaloosa.org) joined ##slackware. [03:06] vbatts (~vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [03:06] Nick change: bikcmp -> Guest73648 [03:06] Dominian (dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [03:07] XGizzmo (~XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [03:07] PiterPunk (~piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] I've been running 13.1 for less than two weeks. So I haven't noticed many drawbacks of the shipped kernel yet. Maybe I will get to play with the newest kernel. Moar fun. And I have .32 on ubuntu :) [03:08] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [03:08] thrice` (thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [03:08] trhodes (~tom@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [03:11] Is it normal for Slackware 13.1 to take this long ot burn? [03:11] It's stuck at 50%. [03:12] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-82.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:12] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-16-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:12] riza: What are you using..k3b? [03:12] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [03:12] Yes. [03:13] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:13] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.174.188) left irc: Quit: figabo has no reason [03:13] i think that HDD is bad and not a controller, because I unplugged the HDD and upon bootup on my backup HDD I also continue to get the hub usb error... so that HDD is toast i think [03:14] riza, did you select "verify burn"? I think it's stuck trying to find a disk to verify. [03:14] if so, just press cancel. [03:15] :( [03:15] Yes I selected verify, I want it to be 100% that it's successful. [03:15] what slackware version are you on? [03:15] KaMii, what does usb hub have to do with hdd? [03:15] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [03:16] boy from one thing to another LOL [03:16] 13.0 [03:16] if this is k3b 1.0.5 (slack 13.0 or 12.2 or so), "verify" never worked for me. so just press cancel, it's ok. [03:16] the disk has been written. [03:16] user0: i thought maybe that was the controller the HDD was plugged into [03:16] I can still use it?.. [03:16] yes. [03:16] becasue I cannot figure out what the hub thing is [03:16] I installed some slackpacks I made and I forgot and I reinstalled pygtk but I can't imagine it has to do with anything and now a lot of my apps the icons in them are messed up [03:16] i have no idea whats causing the error messages [03:16] I'm gonna cry if it doesn't. [03:16] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [03:17] KaMii, no. usb controller is seperate from sata controller [03:17] riza, k3b in 13.1 will verify ok for you. [03:17] is there a log file created by k3b in /var/log? [03:17] I updated the mime database and desktop database it seemed to help a bit but some apps are still messed up [03:17] hrm.... still want to know whats causing the error messages [03:17] MLanden, and how are you going to let an ordinary user write to /var/log? :-) [03:17] KaMii, kernel errs? [03:17] MLanden: hey you into Usenet at all? [03:18] no, i get that error message on every OS [03:18] Slack, Suse, freeBSD, windoze [03:18] Xgates: no...not for a very long time [03:18] whats the err? [03:18] slava_dp: true..;-) [03:19] i dont have it with me right now, but its posted on linuxquestions under hardware [03:19] its on the first page, my name being the author [03:19] MLanden: ok well would you mind if I uploaded some slack packs for hellanzb that you can run a tar cmd on and look at them, there's only like 6 and see if you can see anything in there that would cause the system to have problems with the mime/icons [03:19] lemme check it ooot [03:21] Okay!! [03:21] Wish me luck! [03:21] riza: good luck! [03:21] ok wait maybe it's ok now [03:21] Xgates: ok...png files? [03:21] Thank you surrounder! :D [03:21] huh? [03:21] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [03:22] yeah maybe they're png that mucked up [03:22] hmm looks ok for now just had to fart with it and change the themes back and forth a few times [03:23] BUT there's something going on in these slackpacks that messed up the system with it [03:23] maybe a doinst file ran a bad cmd [03:23] Xgates: could've been...maybe the change with libpng mucked them up as well [03:23] nvision (~nvision@g226062123.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [03:24] what ya mean the change with libpng? [03:24] Prodego (~Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego) left irc: Quit: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [03:24] 1.4.1 to 1.4.3...may be just one of those glitches [03:24] huh? sorry you lost me [03:25] I haven't updated libpng just installed 13.1 fresh [03:25] Xgates: ok...didn't know [03:26] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [03:26] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:27] what are your opinions on .m4v? [03:27] MP4 [03:30] MLanden: you know anything about the app symlinks? ---> hange absolute/messy links to relative [03:30] hange/change [03:30] whoops*..meant libpng 1.4.2 [03:30] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.15.6) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:33] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.45.9) joined ##slackware. [03:33] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [03:33] Xgates: I use 'em cautiously...anything hanging? [03:34] no absolute, messy and dangling [03:35] crap I just uninstalled these python slack packs and it mucked up the images again [03:35] errr something going on with them [03:36] nvision (~nvision@g226062123.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:37] init[1] (buffer@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:37] well I'll just have to install one at a time till I find it [03:38] bbiab [03:38] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout (0.0 Seconds) [03:38] m3tti (~user@p57B7FBF3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [03:40] archcezar (1000@bit105.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:42] archcezar (1000@bis160.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:42] slacky2 (~slacky2@81-226-63-190-no179.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[04:05] hey guys [04:05] parted [04:06] just in case Xgates :) [04:06] well I figured out that problem with lottanzb: [04:06] this is what's in lottanzb: [04:06] /usr/share/mime# ls [04:06] XMLnamespaces aliases application generic-icons globs globs2 icons magic mime.cache packages subclasses treemagic types [04:06] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [04:07] SO I remember making a slackpack like this years back where you > pipe the info of file into /usr/share/mime but I forgot now [04:07] for these files names in /usr/share/mime how can make a pipe command in a slackbuild to pipe the info into the file? [04:08] you could use cat [04:09] cat file > somewhere [04:09] actually I remember it has to be in the doinst.sh [04:11] I need to find another python slackbuild to see how they are doing this in doinst.sh [04:11] mmm i don't remember doing a package that needed that so i can't help you further [04:12] pyGTK? [04:12] I;ll look thanks [04:12] Xgates: you're welcome, actually doing a search for python in slackbuilds.org will give you a big list of slackbuilds for python programs [04:13] that's what I'm doing ;p [04:14] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-70-18-157-112.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:15] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FBF3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:16] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-151-207.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [04:17] hi everyone [04:17] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [04:20] heya m3tti...loopdub any use for you? [04:23] MLanden: I found the problem if you look up, it was crashing files into /usr/share/mime so I need to figure out in the doinst.sh how to cat the info into the files which is another thing I forgot from years back how to do LOL [04:23] the Lottanzb [04:23] anyone want to make a slackbuild for Lottanzb? :) [04:24] well actually I have a slackbuild it just needs to be refined with a doinst.sh to cat the mime info [04:24] darn I wish I could remember the slackpack I did this with before I had a few [04:24] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:25] MLanden: it looks great but haven't got the time yesterday to test it [04:25] m3tti: cool [04:27] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [04:27] Hi so I'm on 13.1. [04:27] Successful too. I think. [04:29] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:29] Wow... [04:29] Action: riza wants to sleep. [04:30] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [04:30] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.72) joined ##slackware. [04:34] Action: riza knocks on wood. "Hello? Can anyone say something so I know nothing is wrong with my internet? Why is this so... perfect? Something is not right..." [04:37] Action: slava_dp unplugs riza's cable. [04:37] Action: riza cries. [04:38] Action: MLanden sees riza's wifi connection kicks in [04:38] can .deb files be opened in Slack? I want to look at the contents of one [04:38] Xgates, deb files are ar archives iirc. [04:38] and? [04:39] About 947,000 results for unpack deb on google. [04:39] can't open [04:39] ok [04:39] Yay! Miracles! Talks! :D [04:40] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Quit: Quitte [04:40] Xgates, see this: http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.1/network/google-chrome/google-chrome.SlackBuild [04:40] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [04:41] Anyone tried running 64-bit binaries of skype on slack? [04:41] :) [04:42] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:42] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [04:43] Okay sleepy time!! Thank you all. [04:43] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [04:43] mtl (mtl@shell.pox.fi) joined ##slackware. [04:45] good question, regarding skype. did they really make it 64-bit? [04:45] or does it still need multilib like before? [04:46] slava_dp: There's a 64-bit .deb package for ubuntu. Not sure about multilib. I haven't tried it on 64-bit ubuntu. Ripping apart the deb atm [04:47] john_dee, oh, cool. report on the progress, when you get it running (or not) [04:47] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FBF3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:48] slava_dp: Are you saying that 64-bit might require multilib? [04:48] That's *censored* [04:50] morning lads o/ [04:52] john_dee, welcome to proprietary software. [04:52] slava_dp: ELF 32-bit LSB executable [04:52] lol [04:52] there you go [04:52] I really don't understand what was the point naming it x86_64. [04:53] damn stupid proprietary companies. [04:54] Coke (~coke@c-b3bee055.1212-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [04:54] Hi. Is there some standard utilities for converting between ipv4 and ipv6 addresses? [04:54] :\ [04:56] I try this: ping6 fe80:0:0:0:0:0:192.168.0.11 and get "invalid argument". Why? [04:57] What's invalid about that address? [04:57] anyone good with slackbuilds? [04:57] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [04:57] slava_dp: To make lemmings think they can run it on their 60-bit ubuntu (which, for most people, is linux) %) [04:58] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:58] Well, I can probably live w/o it :P [04:59] As I am not going to use multilib or anything [04:59] Thank you very much, skype. Come again. Not really :P [05:01] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [05:02] 64_bit windows_xp runs better than 64_bit linux [05:02] what a troll hehe [05:02] user0: Gime that crack pipe! [05:02] :P [05:02] john_dee, no prob [05:02] eviljames (~james@S0106001d7e684945.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:02] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:03] it's to do with the drivers [05:03] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:03] user0: no, it's to do with you smoking crack, hehe [05:03] user0: Kernal drivers! They use magic 60-bit kernal drivers. That's why it's better %) [05:04] most drivers in windows 64-bit version are still 32-bit also. In fact, much of the system is still running 32-bit machine code and they still haven't gotten to the extended x86_64 supersets [05:04] the differences i've seen is only, and olny, with the drivers [05:04] user0: what driver was that? [05:04] nvidia [05:04] eviljames (~james@S0106001d7e684945.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [05:04] user0: and why was it better on windows 64 bits than linux 64? [05:05] windows XP_64 [05:05] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:05] user0: why was it better>? [05:05] it was rather proprietary [05:05] why was it better? [05:05] it's proprietary on both linux and winblows [05:06] the regular user didn;t see it [05:06] user0: see what? [05:06] are you a bot? [05:06] nein, no [05:06] well, you're not really doing a good job of trolling here [05:07] i'm doing a very good job of it [05:07] no, I'm losing interrest [05:07] Maybe if you up the ante with some technical arguments? Maybe some links to Tom's hardware? [05:07] Morn [05:08] Zordrak: howdy [05:08] lfuck, i play with os's [05:09] what's the best in can use with my sitty hardware [05:09] shitty* [05:09] user0: MS-DOS 6.22 [05:09] I'll send you the floppies with my carrier pidgeons %) [05:10] i've got this POS acer AX1200 [05:10] Isn't Windows 7 built on the same idea as MS DOS? [05:10] I.e, everything takes so damn long to do correctly so everything runs in kernel space which is similar to protected mode. [05:10] I don't touch windows 7 with a ten foot pole [05:10] Like, IE runs in kernel, file explorer, video codecs etc [05:10] user0: it's the same in XP _i think_ [05:11] goddamn coke, they wanted to do that with vista [05:11] or might be it still had too much NT4 in it to be completely destroyed by the marketing folks in redmond [05:11] nt4 was the bet M$ could come up with [05:11] yes. NT4 SP6 is still the one I consider "usable" [05:12] 2000 SP4 [05:12] Zordrak: do you administrate servers for a living? [05:12] Zordrak, take 98, and add stability, and you have NT4 [05:13] Because there's no amount of cash I would accept to have any Microsoft products in my server farm [05:13] user0: "stability" is used rather losely there [05:13] M$ is only for games [05:13] Coke: One beeeelion dollars? [05:13] I managed to sink my NT4 loads of times. It also had the nice feature of letting regular users set realtime priority to ANY process [05:13] fuzzix: no. I would require the entire net worth of MS [05:13] i know, coke [05:13] then I would by MS and shut it down [05:14] Coke: yes [05:14] I wouldn't. Their antics amuse me. [05:14] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:14] fuzzix: hmm. [05:14] fuzzix: true. with that money I could finally build the optimal OS myself [05:14] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [05:14] Hm.. [05:14] but fuck that shit, Archlinux is good enough, I'd spend the money buying up game studios [05:14] what the problem is: I'M SAYING: is drivers [05:15] I wonder why 13.1 is so fast? [05:15] user0: there's no problem with nvidia drivers for linux other than they being proprietary [05:15] magic [05:15] >.> [05:15] Coke: Give it to the Haiku project. [05:15] which isn't a problem unless you want higher quality or you're richard stallman [05:15] fuzzix: what is it? [05:15] What are you guys arguing about? [05:15] the linux drivers aren't as good as the M$ drivers [05:15] user0: no, they are better according to nvidia [05:15] maybe because Windows is so slow [05:15] Coke: BeOS type OS. [05:16] I'm working on outdated hardware [05:16] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-195-70.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:16] user0: nvidia spends a lot of money making BSD and Linux drivers because guess what; their main testing platforms are macs and linux boxes [05:16] user0: How outdated? [05:16] user0: appearantly nvidia has the same beef with Microsoft as intel has; their software is so poorly written it's become impossible to use it for hardware testing [05:17] and winXP_64 is doing better than the 64bit linux, debian [05:17] user0: "doing better" ?? [05:17] user0: with the ladies? [05:17] Why are we arguing about this here? [05:17] sales? [05:17] fuzzix: haiku! \o/ [05:17] riza: user0 is trolling us a bit [05:17] \i'm looking to learn here [05:18] user0: all windows have worse performance than linux using nvidia hardware, mmmkay ? [05:18] ive been lurking here for a long time [05:18] surrounder: It's no slack, in fairness :) [05:18] fuzzix: it'll be better than slack on the desktop [05:18] alicephilippa (alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:18] Bah, look! Boobs! www.rhisa.com/gallery/rhisa [05:18] No more arguing about this! [05:18] yayboobs [05:19] not good enough boobs [05:19] i have found better directx performance than opengl [05:19] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-70-18-157-112.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:19] john_dee (~id@95-29-190-46.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:19] on the 64_bit [05:20] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-70-18-157-112.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:20] user0: how? [05:20] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-195-70.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:20] user0: show me the statistics [05:20] :( Not good enough boobs? How come? [05:21] is only a few fps [05:21] alienBOB: you in? [05:21] What does this mean? ./openoffice.org.SlackBuild: line 100: SOURCEDIR: unbound variable [05:22] Bah, drawings of boobs [05:22] Nick change: joe_cia -> adrienne [05:22] endtell (~xk8birn@pool-108-0-86-49.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:23] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:23] john_dee (~id@95-29-190-46.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:24] Coke, there's a reason i'm on a slackware channel, and it's not to fuck with you, I assure you [05:24] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [05:24] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [05:24] user0: only a few fps of what? [05:24] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-70-18-157-112.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:24] video [05:25] user0: what video? [05:25] what was your test? [05:25] games [05:25] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FBF3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [05:25] what games? [05:25] do you have access to the source code of these games to verify that the rendering difference is due to the driver implementation and not the game port itself? [05:25] Nick change: adrienne -> nick_nsa [05:26] did you make sure that both platform tests were made under similar conditions with the north bridge monitored for bandwidth usage? [05:26] regnum online and vendetta online [05:26] user0: you're tests are pointless because there are too many factors outside of the driver issue [05:26] i'm sure they are [05:27] user0: you need a unified form of testing, like the phoronix suite [05:27] What is your problem user0? I just see arguing. [05:27] anything hat needs compiled, compiles faster ona linux kernel [05:28] riza: there's no problem, I'm just checking the intellectual credentials of his claims [05:29] and do you remember my original claim? [05:29] speed of compile is hardly a benchmark that most people would benefit from :) [05:29] it is the benchmark everyone should benefit from [05:30] user0: yes, "win 64 is better than lin 64" [05:30] user0: benchmarks made in real tests show you are mistaken [05:30] Plasmastar (~Plasma@botters/plasmastar) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [05:30] user0: everyone? not everyone compiles. [05:30] "I thought I said XP_64 is better than Ubuntu_64" [05:30] user0: many games run slower when ported to linux because they weren't made for opengl to begin with and more importantly: there's no money in the linux port and thusly no developer time [05:31] hardly anybody on windows ever compiles anything [05:31] user0: nah, linux 64 bit [05:32] and using directx on windows vs opengl on linux as a benchmark in context of 64 bit discussion is silly. they're not the same. [05:32] Who compared directx with opengl? D: [05:32] well, shit [05:32] 05:16 user0> i have found better directx performance than opengl [05:32] i just looked back... [05:32] before that ananke [05:33] unless he was just talking about both directx and opengl _on windows_ [05:33] Don't compare apples and oranges. [05:33] I was thinking Ubuntu... [05:33] you were using directx on ubuntu? [05:33] Ubuntu = a flavor of Linux. [05:34] Gimped (~Gimped@c-98-248-193-199.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:34] I benchmarked better performance on debian than ubuntu [05:34] opengl [05:34] Do you know why? [05:35] user0: and how does better performance on debian than ubuntu even fit into your argument? [05:35] user0: not surprising [05:35] Ubuntu is not optimized to work on any specific hardware, it's made to work on all hardware without any setup [05:36] I'm going to bed now, for real. If you want realllllllll boobs wellll..... go watch porn. <:D [05:36] Nini. [05:36] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.1) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:37] riza: that's an amazing contribution. what would we do without you [05:37] Coke, I know, and honestly, I compile my own shit [05:37] user0: you should try archlinux [05:37] ;O [05:37] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [05:37] Action: Zordrak ooos at LightSpark [05:38] if you like constant updates and broken stuff [05:38] u'm here: here: to learn linuc [05:39] Action: ananke is still wondering what in the world user0 is trying to say [05:39] user0: archlinux is the most optimized one I tried anyway [05:39] show a man redhat, and he leaarns redhat: show a man slackware: and he learns linux [05:39] yes, slackware is very "bare" [05:39] Which is probably why most of us are here to begin with. [05:40] Simplicity is a golden rule that nobody else seems to care about. [05:40] true.dat [05:40] simplicity != easy to use [05:40] sickn3ss (~sickn3ss@109.96.250.175) joined ##slackware. [05:40] Can someone give me a hand on removing some start-up programs ? [05:41] i learned linux when you were in diapers [05:41] user0: showing somebody something won't make them experts on anything. not to mention, a lot of times people who use only slackware have a hard time using other distributions [05:41] Axius (~fd@92.84.15.76) joined ##slackware. [05:42] sickn3ss: what kind of hand and what rograms? [05:42] ananke, i remember the eaarly distros of debian [05:42] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:42] user0: I remember SLS Linux :) [05:42] there is this 113/tcp open ident here [05:42] I can't find the rc. script for it [05:42] user0: and? [05:43] sickn3ss: is that in /etc/services or /etc/inetd.conf ? [05:43] user0: I started using linux in 1997. back then red hat 4.1 and slackware 4.0 (i think) [05:43] Coke: youngster - I started with SLS back in 93 - before it became Slackware [05:43] Action: jgeboski feels really young [05:43] brainvision (~brainvisi@host243-13-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [05:44] sickn3ss: i think ident is used by inetd [05:44] Action: KaMii is probably younger than jgeboski [05:44] or rather, inetd is configured to respond on that port [05:44] yes but how do I turn it off ? [05:44] it's not in the .rc.d directory [05:44] Action: jgeboski is 19 [05:44] alisonken1lap: yeah, in my defense I was trying to make it in the IT biz at the time [05:44] sickn3ss: again: is that in /etc/services or /etc/inetd.conf [05:44] but you didn't touch windows 98, then. You didn't rip their drivers, and you wouldn't how how now [05:44] Nobody had even heard of Linux except this one nerd at the company I worked at [05:44] He installed emacs and cygwin on my NT4 station and I loved it. [05:45] user0: you're making no sense [05:45] Action: KaMii is 15 [05:45] sickn3ss: or where did you get that line from? [05:45] i win [05:45] /etc/serv ices [05:45] He said "you should try this then" and he gave me some "walnut creek" cd [05:45] oh the line is from nmap [05:45] Coke: must have been at least a dualcore if it ran emacs [05:45] bt it's in /etc/services too [05:45] Action: surrounder runs [05:45] sickn3ss: /etc/services just defines port numbers to service names - it does NOT start services [05:45] surrounder: bwahaha [05:45] similar to mapping ip addresses to names [05:45] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FBF3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:45] yes but I used zenmap to scan my localhost [05:45] and it tells me that port is open [05:45] with that service [05:46] It's the inetd or xinetd process listening [05:46] hmm trying to run makepkg by hand I have the src in /tmp/a and thought I cd to /tmp/a then run makepkg -l y -c n /tmp/a/lottanzb-0.5.4-i486-1_sar.tgz but get Can't make output package in current directory. [05:46] [05:46] turn it off by turning the inet stuff off or by changing it's services configuration [05:46] forgot how you run makepkg by hand? [05:47] yea but I can't find its conf or rc.d script or anything [05:47] sickn3ss: be warned - you can't just turn off network services indiscriminately - you need to know why that service is there before deciding to disable it [05:47] Xgates: the output cannot be in the same directory as the packages you are trying to build [05:47] k [05:47] sickn3ss: me neither, all I have are empty rcn.d dirs :) [05:47] otherwise you'll end up locking your system so it's not usable [05:48] alisonken1lap it's a service for IRC and FTP auth [05:48] sickn3ss: dont you need ident for that? [05:48] sickn3ss: it's started by /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd and /etc/inetd.conf has a line beginning in auth that controls identd [05:48] Action: KaMii is reinstalling slack 13.1 [05:48] KaMii: so if src in /tmp/a then where/how do I run it [05:48] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-116-131.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:48] Coke (~coke@c-b3bee055.1212-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: scampers off to lunch [05:49] sickn3ss: it's being monitored by inetd - see the line beginning "auth stream tcp" in /etc/inetd.conf [05:49] cd to the directory the make install went to [05:49] before turning it off, though, you need to verify that it's not needed by valid services [05:49] then run makepkg -addswitches /dir/other/than/make/install [05:49] as noted in the comment for that line: [05:49] # Ident service is used for net authentication [05:49] commented out the line [05:50] then restart inetd [05:50] don't be surprised if some things break because of that also [05:50] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host81-159-12-253.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [05:51] hmmm trying a restart [05:52] sickn3ss (~sickn3ss@109.96.250.175) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:52] It possibile to upgrade to Slackware 13.1 with slackpkg? I'm running Slack 13.0. [05:53] Axius: slackpkg update; slackpkg upgrade-all; slackpkg install-new; slackpkg clean-system [05:53] AFTER changing the slackpkg mirror file to point to a 13.1 mirror [05:54] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.29.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:54] Zordrak: ok, I will try that. [05:55] KaMii: well I did this --- cd /tmp/a/install - makepkg -l y -c n /tmp/a/lottanzb-0.5.4-i486-1_sar.tgz and not working [05:55] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.26.234) joined ##slackware. [05:56] Axius: as noted READ THE UPGRADE.TXT file [05:57] Xgates: what's the error? [05:58] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:58] sickn3ss (~sickn3ss@109.96.250.175) joined ##slackware. [05:58] success ! [05:58] alisonken1lap: ok [05:58] rirombo (~rirombo@h113.187.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:59] Axius (fd@92.84.15.76) left ##slackware. [05:59] SOUL_OF_R00T (~2010@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [06:00] no errors it's not making it is all [06:00] it makes a pack with nothing in it [06:00] Xgates: ls /tmp/a/install [06:00] and are you doing makepkg as root? [06:01] yea [06:01] and it's 'cd /tmp/a/install && makepkg [06:01] ... ' [06:01] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FBF3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:01] the dash between /tmp/a/install and makepkg won't do anything for you [06:01] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [06:02] or 'cd /tmp/a/install ; makepkg ... 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[06:02] cd /tmp/a/install && makepkg /tmp/a/lottanzb-0.5.4-i486-1_sar.tgz [06:02] /deop phrag [06:02] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [06:03] good morning to all [06:03] morning [06:03] heya phrag [06:03] hey phrag [06:03] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-129.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [06:03] phrag: sap [06:03] tihi [06:03] hi phrag [06:03] 'sap' = 'juice' in dutch [06:04] s/juice/coffee [06:04] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:05] alisonken1lap: I can't makpkg in /tmp/a/install [06:05] sup = sap in Zordrakian [06:05] hehe [06:05] damm another note I thought I made and didn't for doing this by hand [06:05] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [06:06] Xgates: what's the contents of /tmp/a/install ? [06:06] alisonken1lap: also I have a doinst.sh I need that keeps gettign removed [06:06] doinst.sh slack-desc [06:07] Zordrak: was up till 1:30 killing queries.. massive slave lag =/ [06:07] if it's a slackbuild - you have to recreate the doinst.sh and slack-desc files from the slackbuild [06:07] I just want to tar it by hand [06:07] actually - you only need to create the doinst.sh if you have something other than softlinks that need creating [06:08] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Client Quit [06:08] I don't know how to make a slackbuild for it, cause it's a python app that dumps stuff into /usr/share/mime that should be cat into it so I'm just doing it by hand [06:08] phrag: on what..? [06:08] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [06:09] brainvision (~brainvisi@host243-13-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev [06:09] so where and how do I run makepkg by hand? [06:10] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-131-52.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:11] 11:03:38 < alisonken1lap> Xgates: what's the contents of /tmp/a/install ? [06:11] doinst.sh slack-desc [06:12] nvision (~nvision@46.115.77.98) joined ##slackware. [06:12] fail [06:12] run makepkg in /tmp/a [06:12] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:13] cd /tmp/a; makepkg -l y -c n /tmp/package-name-ver-arch-build.txz [06:13] got it now thanks [06:15] Axius (~hi@109.97.41.22) joined ##slackware. [06:15] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [06:16] sickn3ss (~sickn3ss@109.96.250.175) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:16] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:18] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-131-52.mel.connect.net.au) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [06:19] Axius (~hi@109.97.41.22) left irc: Client Quit [06:19] umm, im forgetting how I applied my custom kernel... I still have a backup of it, but how do I make it so it boots my kernel? I forget if I just renamed it or if I made a link or what i did [06:19] Zordrak: I'm trying to do this from the doinst.sh ( cat usr/share/mime/globs > /usr/share/mime/globs [06:19] change symlink and run lilo [06:19] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P40TP1ughek&sns=em <- lol XD [06:19] would you know how I can cat that? [06:20] oh ok it was a symlink command [06:20] a glob? iteration in a for loop would suffice [06:20] KaMii: typically, put it in /boot (as some name that doesn't clash with the main kernels - like "vmlinuz-[version]-kamiii"), then add a section to /etc/lilo like the others, but pointing to that kernel [06:21] then rerun lilo [06:21] sorry - /etc/lilo.conf [06:21] KaMii: and maybe >> instead of > ? [06:22] cat < then after text ... on a line by itself [06:22] HERE [06:22] or "cat </tmp/a/install/doinst.sh" [06:22] I think this would work wouldn't it? [06:23] ( cat usr/share/mime/globs > /usr/share/mime ) [06:23] no - that would kill whatever mime file is already there - plus you have to take into account what happens if it's been run multiple times [06:23] ok, so dont symlink it [06:23] I want to pipe the info of globs in the src to /usr/share/mime/globs and not overwrite it [06:24] so instead of lilo saying /boot/vmlinuz just have it say /boot/myawesomekernel [06:26] alisonken1lap: ok, I had a bunch of slackbuilds a few years back I did this, don't remember now, so how in doinst.sh would I write it to pipe the info of the src glob into the /usr/share/mime/glob? [06:26] tomi3074 (~tomi3074@217.117.141.42) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:27] what is /usr/share/mime/glob ? [06:27] have a look you got one too [06:27] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.99) joined ##slackware. [06:27] sorry globs I mean [06:27] then globs2 [06:28] "cat [source] >>/usr/share/mime/globs2" [06:28] here's my build: [06:28] root@slackware:/tmp/a/usr/share/mime# ls [06:28] application globs globs2 packages subclasses types [06:28] if it's part of the slackbuild, then "cat <>/usr/share/mime/globs2" <-- and man bash on HERE documents [06:28] I have to pipe globs globs2 subclasses types [06:29] pipe or consolidate? [06:29] I'm trying to do this in doinst.sh [06:29] tjat [06:29] that's where I use to do it before [06:30] are you trying to add to the globs2 file, or get all of those files into the mme file? [06:30] pipe [06:30] no not add pipe the info from the build into the /usr/share/mime/globs add in the info of the file is all [06:31] how many lines are you trying to get into the globs/globs2 file? [06:31] the build globs has this inside: [06:31] application/x-nzb:*.nzb [06:31] that has to go into /usr/share/mime/globs [06:32] if it's just one line, then first you want to verify that the line is NOT already there - if it's not already there then "echo '......' >>/usr/share/mime/globs2" [06:32] I have to pipe globs - globs2 - subclasses - types [06:32] those 4 files only have one line in them [06:32] "pipe" means you take the output of one program and use it as input to another program [06:33] no of course it's not there the app adds it's own info to these files [06:33] look at /usr/share/mime globs - globs2 - subclasses - types [06:33] and you see what I'm talking about :p [06:33] Xgates: and what happens if someone reinstalls the package? [06:33] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-128-155.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:33] you can end up with multiple same lines [06:34] this is just my package [06:34] but, it sounds like you just want to add a line to each of those files - which you can do with the echo command I posted earlier [06:34] one echo command for each file [06:34] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:35] well when you uninstall it my understanding is the mime database when it updates if it's not there removes it [06:35] theoretically, true [06:35] or else there's going to have to be a cmd to remove them when I unistall or I do it by hand [06:36] ok echo [06:36] so like this> [06:36] ? [06:36] "echo usr/share/mime/globs2 >>/usr/share/mime/globs2" [06:36] no - that would overwrite the file - use >> [06:37] no no no no [06:37] 'echo application/x-nzb:*.nzb' [06:37] echo 'application/x-nzb:*.nzb' >>/usr/share/mime/globs2 [06:38] how can you echo like that what's inside a file? how is it going to find it? [06:38] it also looks like there's a number preceding that info that should be there [06:38] Xgates: copy the line I have above and paste it into your doinst.sh file [06:38] application/x-nzb:*.nzb is the line inside the file [06:38] cat [06:38] ahhh [06:39] ic lol [06:39] ok - if the line is already there, then why are you trying to mess with it? [06:39] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-109-67-38-163.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [06:39] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-109-67-38-163.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Changing host [06:39] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) joined ##slackware. [06:39] Action: elliot98 slips in [06:39] I'm missing something [06:40] I've got a broadband mobile usb modem - trying to set it up [06:40] can I rsync from connie.slackware.com? want to get multilib. [06:40] slava_dp: connie doesn't rsync last I checked [06:40] what do I need to get it recognized and up and running? [06:40] lftp -R [06:41] too bad [06:41] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.99) left irc: Quit: rafu [06:41] use wget [06:42] wget -np -r [06:42] and url [06:42] i'm using lftp. [06:43] only need multilib for skype. didn't want to install it, but have to :( [06:43] I had some minor niggles using skype with multilib - since I don't have >4G and I don't do massive number crunching, I just installed slack32 [06:43] they really need to release a x86_64 version. [06:44] jgeboski: they did - and they stopped development "for now" on it [06:44] oh wait - I'm thinking of adobe [06:44] n/m - skype has always been 32-bit [06:44] alisonken1lap: ok great THANKS I got this now in there: [06:44] http://pastebin.com/KT6DC5SD [06:45] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:45] nooooo i have to repatch the kernel, it was built agains ext3 and now im in ext4 [06:45] gooooo [06:45] Xgates: interesing - I just checked and the *.nzb line is already in my globs2 file [06:45] and this is a default slackware install [06:46] and globs file [06:46] yea i just realized i don't use multi-lib either as wine 1.2 has x86_64 support now [06:46] actually i think you need the x86 livs for it still, iirc [06:46] s/livs/libs [06:46] KaMii, I usually build all filesystems I might use into the kernel for good measure :) includes ext2, 3, 4, reiserfs, xfs. [06:46] for the 32-bit wine apps I believe [06:47] alisonken1lap: you sure you didn't install something for NZB support cause that's for Usenet [06:47] what is nzb used by? [06:47] jgeboski, wine 64 can run 64-bit windows apps. good job finding those :) [06:47] I don't have anything in mine [06:47] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NZB [06:47] slava_dp: finding what? [06:48] good idea slava_dp this time when i build the kernel i will do it right hehe [06:48] nvision (~nvision@46.115.77.98) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:48] % cat /usr/share/mime/globs2 | grep nzb [06:48] 50:application/x-nzb:*.nzb [06:48] UUoC !! :P [06:48] jgeboski, 64-bit windows apps. [06:48] i have it too, on a vanilla install [06:48] Xgates: dunno - I just have the normal slack full install plus a couple of things like huludesktop, skype, sbopgk [06:48] alisonken1lap: maybe you installed a newsreader or something like pan.... [06:48] nope [06:49] default kde stuff for me [06:49] I did install kvirc [06:49] kde has newsreader [06:49] I also have full install, no newsreader [06:49] hmm [06:49] pidgin also does newsfeeds [06:49] Snownews [06:49] snownews is good news ? [06:49] bada-bing! [06:49] hehe, i use snownews [06:51] I don't see how nzb stuff is going to be there unless a newsreader is installed [06:51] Xgates: did you not do a full install? [06:51] oxygen-icons-4.4.3-i486-1:usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/mimetypes/application-x-nzb.png [06:51] expert very small [06:51] does that give you an idea? [06:52] I've seen there's an application called usb switchmode that changes the mode a usb device to be recognized as a modem [06:52] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [06:52] I don't have those icons [06:52] it's kde [06:53] ok who knows they don't have any newsreaders installed? [06:54] see if you have these PLEASE [06:54] since it's present in a full install.. that means no slackbuild, right? [06:54] http://pastebin.com/KT6DC5SD [06:54] full installs install newsreaders [06:55] Xgates: you still want a check to see if it's already there before adding it again [06:55] well I don't have them [06:56] and if you plan on letting other people use your slackbuild, you can't _assume_ that they have the same setup you do [06:56] it's just my pack is all [06:57] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [06:58] might as well make it a proper one if you're going to go through the hassle of creating a slackbuild - good practice [07:00] yeah sure [07:00] this might be helpful reading: http://standards.freedesktop.org/shared-mime-info-spec/shared-mime-info-spec-0.18.html#s2_layout [07:00] actually I'd love if we can get alienBob to make a slackbuild for LottaNZB :) [07:01] for now this will do [07:05] i know i saw this nice guide on the web somewhere about compiling your own kernel, does anyone have that link by chance? [07:05] (especially a slackware specific one) [07:06] the echo cmd isn't working it's just killing the original and there is only this new info in the file [07:06] kdelibs-4.4.3's usr/share/mime/packages/kde.xml and update-mime-database is where the nzb stuff comes from [07:06] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@75-132-181-155.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [07:07] I don't see how I thought that echo cmd is just going to pipe/add that info into the original is all [07:07] Xgates: sounds like you only have a single > in there [07:07] oh, and this might be a stupid question but i want to ask it anyway... I build a ton of packages that were build against my old custom kerenel which does not have ext4 support. now I am in ext4. will those packages work, or do I need to rebuild them all? [07:08] only if the packages rely on ext3 - which normally packages don't unless they're packages that mess with the disk formatting [07:08] http://pastebin.com/KT6DC5SD [07:08] also it's piping the info two times into the file [07:08] this is /usr/share/mime/globs now [07:08] application/x-nzb:*.nzb [07:08] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [07:08] KaMii: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/08/31/compiling-your-own-slackware-kernel/ [07:09] ok thanks guys [07:09] Xgates: can you pastebin your package's directory tree layout ? [07:09] Xgates: i think you should be using update-mime-database [07:09] Xgates: if it's getting added twice, then it's getting called twice [07:10] good chance that python setup.py install may be doing it as well [07:10] Xgates: I made a package for SABnzb, and that is as far as I will go in creating packages for nzb clients [07:10] yeah but I don't see where [07:10] I'm just tarring the contents no more building [07:10] by hand... [07:11] What do you mean, don't see where [07:11] if you're not going to make a slackbuild, then just run the python setup.py install and leave it alone [07:12] where it's getting piped twice into the file when all I did was add one echo for it [07:12] Ah yes, I never distributed that sabnzb package [07:12] it sounds like your tar is overwriting the origninal files, then your echo is adding another line [07:13] or that setup.py is doing its own magic [07:13] Xgates: pastebin the "ls -l" of what you're taring [07:13] I did make a slackbuild but I didn't know it dumps into /usr/share/mime so now I've just taken what was built and dumped it into /tmp/a to run makepkg on it by hand just to complete it [07:14] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.72) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:14] http://pastebin.com/tPT8P7zj [07:14] ah yes this is exactly the webpage guide i used last time to build my custom kernel [07:14] thanks [07:14] and it only takes 4 hours [07:14] ls -lR - need the recursive (full listing) of all contents in there [07:14] ahh ok [07:15] modest_user (d540ebe9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.64.235.233) joined ##slackware. [07:15] endtell (~xk8birn@pool-108-0-86-49.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: goodnight and fuck you all [07:15] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.248) joined ##slackware. [07:16] ok here: [07:16] http://pastebin.com/bnZNMbBB [07:17] yep - see lines staring at 738 - you overwrote those files with the tar from that package [07:17] then you echo'ed extra lines giving you double lines [07:17] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.114.135) joined ##slackware. [07:18] python setup.py install had created those single lines in the mime directory already when it did it's install [07:18] SOUL_OF_R00T (~2010@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:19] so your slackbuild needs to delete those files before building the package, but leave usr/share/mime/packages directory alone [07:19] yes I know they are there if you install it you overwrite it that's why I'm removing them [07:19] oh crap my bad LOL [07:19] I though I removed them LOL [07:19] LOL!!!!!!!!1111111111 [07:19] Action: Xgates bangs head [07:19] since usr/share/mime/packages is created - then all you have to do is remove those files from the tree, then after the package is installed, just run update-mime-database - no need for the echo commands [07:20] ok [07:21] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:22] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [07:22] Xgates: I am going to upload my sabnzb package and SlackBuild, perhaps you can use it [07:24] cool LottaNZB is really nice [07:25] I bet you can make an easy slackbuild for it [07:25] brb [07:25] THANKS guys [07:25] Xgates (~Xgates@udp116220uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: Quit: Ping Timeout (0.0 Seconds) [07:25] Gimped (~Gimped@c-98-248-193-199.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:26] tsccof (~tsccof@189.74.208.59) joined ##slackware. [07:27] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [07:27] I keep forgetting that I sometimes need a clue-by-eight before I finally "get it" too [07:27] but there are times when it's just downright .... huh - I'm at a loss for words for him [07:29] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420255.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [07:29] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420255.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:30] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [07:34] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:36] when applying a patch to a kernel, at what part of the setup should I apply the patch? [07:36] apply the patch before setup [07:36] ok [07:36] or make menuconfig? [07:36] yeah, i assumed thats what he's doing [07:37] make proper [07:37] then I was going to apply the patch [07:37] then make menuconfig [07:39] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-wduqascolglspadn) joined ##slackware. [07:39] That works. However, I would copy in a known-good .config before menuconfig ... saves a lot of time and trouble. [07:39] What is the patch? [07:40] World of Warcraft patch [07:40] I hate that game [07:40] there is a WoW kernel patch? [07:40] it won't load unless its sure you have no life [07:40] when WoW hit 3.3.5 all kernels above 2.6.33 kill the game on login [07:40] maybe, but it doesn't matter its a bad game anyway [07:41] i like it [07:41] I played it in wine for like 2 months [07:41] it is a good game [07:41] if you dont then dont play, no one is forcing you [07:41] stop being sarcastic [07:41] the game just sucks [07:41] rabbitea1: she is being correct, not sarcastic [07:41] im not, i like the game [07:41] lol [07:41] oh okay [07:42] teamviewer linux support is by shipping it with wine [07:42] rabbitea1: I can't say a nintendo wii sucks only because they have the same bloody games for over 15 years [07:42] i just don't believe in paying monthly for a game [07:42] rabbitea1: well, I could [07:42] rabbitea1: wii sucks [07:42] many games suck [07:42] true [07:42] but WoW isn't among them [07:42] except quake 3 [07:42] I disagree [07:42] it is one of the best MMORPGs around [07:43] ncrypthic (~ncrypthic@125.160.220.103) joined ##slackware. [07:43] tsccof: that hack/slash/level bullshit has nothing to do with a RPG [07:43] maybe I'm old school and still like counter-strike [07:43] but...... [07:43] surrounder: I know what RPG is [07:43] WoW is too expensive [07:43] zomg rabbitea1 [07:43] rabbitea1: private server [07:43] it's alive! [07:44] not for me! at all [07:44] WoW's client is free [07:44] urban terror is as good as counter strike XD [07:44] and its free xD [07:44] Team Fortress 2 [07:44] anything but WoW is cool [07:44] true [07:44] Diablo 2 [07:44] I have TF2 actually [07:44] Resident Evil 1,2,3 [07:44] tsccof: is right the best rpg is diablo [07:44] Ultima Online [07:45] fallout [07:45] ultima never played that one [07:45] but this kid messed up my steam account [07:45] fallout is great [07:45] 1 and 2 at least, 3 I never played [07:45] some mom I was dating, I'm bitter [07:45] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:45] Silent Hill [07:45] 3 doesn't work on my system [07:45] Silent Hill 1 was amazing [07:46] tsccof: is right sh 1 was the best [07:46] 2 was as good as 1 [07:46] meh.. im locked into Gran Turismo 4 atm [07:46] Zordrak: what a game! [07:46] motaro (~ricardori@190.166.108.188) joined ##slackware. [07:46] Gran Turismo is the best racing game ever [07:46] lap after lap after lap of the nurburgring nordschleife in a stock BMW M5 [07:46] Gran Turismo > all other racing games [07:46] Marble Madness is the best game ever! [07:46] kitche (kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:47] what the hack wine doesn'T work anymore [07:47] Action: Zordrak just realised BMW letters are in a line on this dvorak keyboard :) [07:47] and Journey .... [07:47] Action: Zordrak is off to pick up missus. ttfn [07:47] k? [07:47] right, cool [07:48] pong and breakout best games ever XD [07:48] rabbitea1: what MMOs do you like? [07:50] Wizard of Wor FTW [07:51] Action: tsccof thought Wizard of Wor was really recent and a 3D MMORPG [07:51] I was playing Wizard at the arcade in the 70's :) [07:53] I wasn't alive in the 70's :( [07:53] but I had a NES and Dragon Quest [07:53] and it was amazing for those days [07:54] good game [07:55] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.mimer.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:55] hrm multilib was broken once again update [07:57] I had an idea about the development of open source projects [07:57] what if there was a place where everyone could anonymously criticise a project? [07:57] in a well educated and mannered way [07:57] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [07:57] but a centralised place for many projects [07:58] got skype installed. thanks alienBOB. [07:58] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:58] that way some people would lean towards expressing themselves about a project [07:59] without having to join its IRC or sending a direct e-mail [07:59] and developers would choose what to read [07:59] it a box of ideas [07:59] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [07:59] s/it/it is [07:59] and what does anonymity add to that? [08:00] tsccof: i take it you need to criticize something right now? :p [08:00] tsccof: it's called "IRC" and has been around quite a long time already [08:00] surrounder: some people might not be comfortable [08:00] surrounder: and IRC is something different [08:00] jgeboski: haha! no, I just thought about it [08:01] mako-sama: some people might like not to be seen by developer [08:01] uhm [08:01] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:01] surrounder: I mean, going to #distro and saying "hey, you folks could improve this and that" [08:01] so you're suggesting an "open source" section on 4chan? [08:01] what is 4chan? [08:02] ut: ....... [08:02] maybe it's heavily american or something. [08:02] tsccof: like it's being done on irc/forums for a long time already? :P [08:02] i've gotta go make coffee [08:02] that's always a good idea [08:02] I don't really know 4chan, but if you don't care to explain, I don't care either [08:02] ut: /coffee/ ? [08:03] tsccof: google is hard [08:03] tsccof: it's an image board... not safe for work [08:03] surrounder: don't want t [08:03] s/t/to [08:03] tsccof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan [08:03] mako-sama: thank you :D [08:03] fraktil (~fraktil@ip98-185-245-8.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [08:03] tsccof: lazy bastard :P [08:04] surrounder: rofl! [08:04] him not explaining makes me not want to google it [08:04] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [08:04] it's takes less energy then whining about it [08:04] surrounder: sure, but it is a different path [08:05] w/e [08:05] does anyone like the idea? [08:05] no [08:05] ok [08:06] rest? [08:06] I'd love some rest ! [08:06] why don't you get some? [08:06] working? [08:06] because I get paid to work [08:06] yeah [08:07] nice [08:07] what is you got hit to work? [08:07] s/is/if [08:07] would be bad, right? [08:07] lol [08:07] not really nice, party last night was far too much fon [08:07] *fun [08:08] good [08:08] i want to set eth0 as wlan0's gateway, what to do? [08:08] see? this is the thing with IRC [08:08] we come with a new idea and people tend to dislike it [08:08] tsccof: no if it's a good idea :p [08:09] s/no/not [08:09] jgeboski: why isn't it a good idea? [08:09] yes, because there are already 300 ways to do the exact same thing [08:09] for ages [08:09] surrounder: such as? [08:09] forums, IRC, mailing list? [08:09] that is ALL diferent [08:09] *sighs* [08:09] tsscof: I'm just being thick-headed towards your idea along with everyone else haha [08:10] tsccof: go and prove it's different, make something out of your idea to prove us wrong [08:10] jgeboski: mate, I really like your humour, we are having fun here xD [08:10] tsccof: so.. you want a forum that allows non members to post their comments. right? [08:10] surrounder: I don't want to prove anything [08:10] :p [08:10] mako-sama: yea! that is a good thing [08:10] .... [08:10] then don't whine about your idea being fubar :P [08:10] does anyone has the knowledge? [08:10] mako-sama: and yea, guest users, I know, it is been around for some years mimimi [08:11] you know pastebin? [08:11] like that [08:11] people inventd wiki just for that [08:11] ok [08:12] I guess there is no need the [08:12] then* [08:12] round of applause for tsccof [08:12] sec [08:12] I will try something [08:12] Action: jgeboski claps [08:12] tihi [08:13] tsccof: if you think there is a need, then by all means, do it. buy webspace and a domain then install forum, wiki, or whatever you think is good on that site [08:13] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FBF3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:13] tsccof: hey, why don't you solve the circular dependency issue? [08:13] tsccof: really curious [08:13] Skunky: tsccof: um. there isn't one. it's you. [08:13] Channel flood from tsccof -- kicking [08:13] nice, IRC [08:13] tsccof kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [08:13] tsccof (~tsccof@189.74.208.59) joined ##slackware. [08:14] seen that? [08:14] clyphox (~human@cpc2-enfi1-0-0-cust301.hari.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:14] it's me, not the issue [08:14] that is your irc [08:14] kimjeng (~mike@196.201.218.215) joined ##slackware. [08:14] also apt doesn't have its issues, it is always the user [08:15] but that is just the user and irc, no room for anonymously typing and some developer who wants to fix the issue [08:15] iceheart: simple NAT will probably do what you want [08:16] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.99) joined ##slackware. [08:16] and then pacman kicks portage's arse in terms of handling dependencies [08:17] I agree with you that IRC isn't very good for that. You'd need something that will allow users and developers to take their time and write something meaningful [08:18] pim_ (1000@slacker.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Quit: Changing server [08:18] pen and paper! [08:18] pim_ (1000@slacker.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:18] and IRC logs aren't very god [08:18] mako-sama: because ? [08:18] tsccof: to add into that, something that handles multi-language well [08:18] mako-sama: i do not have knowledge with NAT, route command can finish the work? [08:18] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FBF3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:19] jgeboski: yea! good one [08:19] tsscof: are you talking real-time chatting? or posting system? [08:19] jgeboski: posting system [08:20] tscoff: almost like a ticket system for suggestions? [08:20] jgeboski: really simple, a dropdown with many projects names and a message field, submit button [08:20] jgeboski: yea [08:20] and then a viewing page listing suggestions by project [08:20] no accounts [08:21] it'll be spammed like fuck [08:21] doesn't sf.net do that project by project basis? [08:21] surrounder: so true, must think about that [08:21] captcha? [08:22] jgeboski: 250 letter captcha, spammers will get lazy and give up [08:22] jgeboski: joke [08:22] ...so will genuine users :P [08:22] xD [08:22] haha [08:22] yes [08:22] I'm getting sick of CAPTCHA. The time has come to admit they;re a failed concept and move on. [08:22] LSD`: true [08:23] how can I put 40 gigs of mp3's into one file? [08:23] have a better solution? [08:23] rabbitea1: honestly? by kicking yourself in your head [08:23] rabbitea1: tar it? [08:23] adrien: no seriously [08:23] cat them together? [08:23] you want a 40GB mp3? [08:23] yes! [08:24] rabbitea1: cat them [08:24] and you expect players to work ok with such things? [08:24] why do you want to do that [08:24] adrien: No, but at the same time it's not my job to come up with one :P Seriously though, it's getting ridiculous. They're becoming so complex now that evennormal people have trouble working them out yet they haven't stopped spam bots at all [08:24] mplayer will [08:25] LSD`: recaptcha works pretty well afaik, dunno robots' success rate [08:25] mako-sama: how to configure with NAT? [08:25] ya its to minimize complexity [08:25] clyphox (human@cpc2-enfi1-0-0-cust301.hari.cable.virginmedia.com) left ##slackware. [08:26] rabbitea1: I admire you now [08:26] rabbitea1: you are fun [08:26] thanks [08:26] rabbitea1: complexity? [08:26] rabbitea1: WoW still doesn't suck [08:26] k, k, I'll let WoW go [08:26] rabbitea1: haha xD [08:27] I'm playing WoW right now haha [08:27] jgeboski: are you a rogue? [08:27] no, currently on a Blood Elf Mage [08:27] I talked to my friends friend, who is a fire fighter, in a better mood, I'm sorry of I actually have effected WoW players before [08:27] seriously. [08:27] jgeboski: awesome, I dislike rogues [08:28] tsccof: druids are also slick [08:28] rabbitea1: I don't think WoW is what people say it is, but it is a good game nonetheless [08:28] whats about the multilib why the hell wants slackpkg to update gcc [08:29] because multilib isn't part of base slackware [08:29] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) joined ##slackware. [08:30] ok so slackpkg think that are old versions [08:30] could i blacklist that packages [08:30] ? [08:30] m3tti: because you forgot to blacklist the gcc package in slackpkg [08:30] how :'( [08:30] njknkn [08:30] m3tti: /etc/slackpkg/blacklist [08:31] found it slackware is that easy XD [08:31] i cant mount cdroms in my slack13.1 64 bits, any idea why this is happening? [08:31] daniel_s (~daniel_s@188-194-153-115-dynip.superkabel.de) joined ##slackware. [08:31] candinho: are you in the cdrom group [08:31] thanx alisonken1lap [08:31] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [08:32] m3tti, one sec , let me check [08:33] alisonken1lap: could you tell me what has to be in the blacklist file the exact name of the packages ??? [08:33] m3tti,im noob, how do i see that? [08:33] candinho: id command [08:34] candinho: nobody is a noob [08:34] rob0 (~rob0@tuxaloosa.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:34] candinho: you can't call you're self a noob [08:34] candinho: thats just wrong [08:34] groups=100(users),11(floppy),17(audio),18(video),19(cdrom),83(plugdev),84(power),86(netdev),93(scanner) [08:34] cacao_ (~cacao@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:34] rabbitea1, ty man [08:34] np! [08:34] -! [08:35] ok im in cdrom group bu t i cant mount cdrom still [08:35] logout/login [08:35] m3tti: "ls /var/log/packages/gcc*" to see the gcc packages, compare to the multilib gcc packages, then enter the gcc-* package names that are the same in the multilib and normal slack install the same way the other packages are listed in /etc/slackpkg/blacklist [08:35] m3tti: google multilib slackware blacklist [08:36] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:36] XGizzmo (~XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:37] Dominian (dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:37] thrice` (thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:37] Guest73648 (jason@slackadelic.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:37] vbatts (~vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:37] trhodes (~tom@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:37] PiterPunk (~piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:37] cacao_ (~cacao@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:37] mk_ (~10@187.65.82.74) left irc: Quit: EPIC5-1.1.2[1638] - amnesiac : I'm outta here... [08:38] thanx alisonken1lap raela works [08:38] someone dos'n ? [08:38] i put the slackware dvd in the cdrom drive, and it mount in /media/Slackdvd [08:38] candinho: are you using kde? [08:38] looks like cardinal went down [08:38] i imagine so [08:38] but I didn't think slackadelic is hosted on cardinal [08:39] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-128-155.mel.connect.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:39] alisonken1lap: why would you say that? [08:39] phrag: it's me... I tried to submit a noobfarm quote and it failed: "failed to open socket" ='( [08:39] raela: oh yeh [08:39] alisonken1lap: he's mounting a cd rom [08:39] adrien: it's all your fault.. it was too noob for noob farm.. it fell over =P [08:39] phrag: and I did that 4 minutes before Alan_Hicks got disconnected (see the ping timeout: 240 seconds) ='( [08:39] phrag: well, yeah... it was [08:39] adrien: but is noobfarm hosted on the same server? [08:39] alisonken1lap, yes kde [08:40] yeh, that's HAL [08:40] rabbitea1: not everyone here uses kde, and mounting a cd under /media is normal only for automounting from DE's like kde - plus kde is the default heavyweight in slack, but not the only de in slack [08:40] something is fishy here [08:40] candinho: ok - can you access it through the file manager? [08:40] back in the day we use the 'mount' command as root to mount stuff [08:40] nice firefox is broken again :P [08:41] rabbitea1: yea, and it works fine [08:41] rabbitea1: xD [08:41] i just got to work and saw the emails... and the topic :) [08:41] rabbitea1: I also used to mount cd's without being root :) can be done in fstab if you have the right options [08:41] uva (~uva@111-240-230-27.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:41] things have changed I guess [08:41] hal will do it for you if you're part of the proper group iirc [08:42] alisonken1lap, the cdrom no, i cant [08:42] phrag: well, when it's back up, check the farm and tell me if it was noob enough [08:43] candinho: sounds like you're not in the proper groups in /etc/group then [08:43] candinho: probably simpler then you think actually [08:43] #/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,owner,ro 0 0 [08:43] should i remove # in fstab [08:43] but they know what they are doing. [08:43] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Read error: No route to host [08:43] change the 'owner' to "users" and it should work for manually mounting [08:44] you remove from fstab if you want use HAL [08:44] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:44] how hard is it to actually mount a cd in kde? [08:45] as long as you're part of the plugdev group, it will automount if it's recognized [08:45] i dont understando why i put dvd, mount automatic, cd just dont work [08:45] not very? [08:45] at all [08:45] the disk is broke? [08:45] no, its not [08:46] or the dvd-rom? [08:46] but appears my linux only like dvd... [08:46] how do you know that? [08:46] candinho: there's always the ol' 'mount' command [08:46] phrag, if i put one dvd in drive it works, if i put one cd, dont works [08:46] does /dev/cdrom point to same device and /dev/dvd ? [08:46] i used mount just get the termianl freeze [08:46] :P [08:46] had to hit crtl-c [08:47] your not suppose to do this, but mount /dev/cdrom /mnt ? [08:47] then look in /mnt [08:47] is it a data cd or an audio cd? [08:47] candinho: answer my question please [08:48] and don't do that, never mount anything directly to /mnt [08:48] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [08:48] candinho: the dvd is probably at /dev/cdrom [08:48] candinho: unless you have more then one [08:48] phrag: why not mounting anything to /mnt? [08:48] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [08:48] phrag, one sec let me check fstqab [08:49] mount it to freakin /home if you like, but point is, thats too much work. [08:49] tsccof: because /mnt often contains subdirectories that are mount points [08:49] phrag: such as? my mnt is clean, and it is as it came [08:49] rabbitea1: stop telling people silly advice unless you know wtf you are talking about [08:49] phrag, #/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,owner,ro 0 0 [08:49] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:49] Action: rabbitea1 goes create the directory /mnt/woman [08:50] rabbitea1: it also sounds like it's been a while since you've played with an updated sysetm [08:50] system [08:50] the problem is dvds my kde recognize and automount, and cds dont mount at all [08:50] candinho: again - is it an audio cd? [08:50] tsccof: such as /mnt/bleh and if you had a cdrom with a directly bleh/ and also something mounted to /mnt/bleh, then that would cause problems... its good practice never to mount directly to /mnt, as stated in the slackware documentation iirc [08:50] alisonken1lap, no [08:50] candinho: no, ls -l /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd [08:50] do they point to the same device? [08:50] phrag: I always do that, and df -h tells me things :p [08:51] well do what you want, just dont give users potentially spurios advice in this channel please [08:51] velcroshooz (~burlynn@173-31-157-124.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [08:51] alisonken1, there's a lot of a's here, ..... I am building a media box, that is pissing me off right now in xbmc, and slackware [08:51] i change one thing in fstab now, should i restart, to see if new fstab works? or dont need restart? [08:51] alisonken1lap: okay this is good, usually I run arch, [08:51] phrag: also /mnt comes with a readme file telling you it is clearly a directory with clean folders for mounting things [08:51] sometimes. [08:52] tsccof: in /mnt/subdir yes, not /mnt/ [08:52] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2010-07-22 09:45 /dev/cdrom -> sr0 [08:52] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2010-07-22 09:45 /dev/dvd -> sr0 [08:52] phrag: ah, I am not talking about /mnt directly, talking about its sub folders [08:52] I am beginning to hate xbmc actually [08:53] candinho: I don't think you want to have it sr0 [08:53] tsccof: so follow the conversation thread before wading into a discussion =P [08:53] candinho: sdb possibly [08:53] wobbles (~huntsman@C-61-68-165-160.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:53] rabbitea1, how i fix this? [08:53] candinho: that looks right... try eject /dev/sr0 [08:54] is that right phrag ? [08:54] the cdrom door open [08:54] ok, so /dev/sr0 is your device [08:54] maybe. [08:54] phrag: I followed it, but I didn't mean /mnt itself [08:54] /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd are just symlinks to that device [08:54] candinho: so what cd's are you using.. audio cd's? [08:55] phrag, not audiocds, just gamecds, [08:55] phrag: sorry but never seen that before sr0 as block device [08:55] anywayz, I'm just making up words now [08:55] rabbitea1: erm, /dev/sr0 has been for cds/dvds for awhile now.. [08:55] do you get anything in dmesg when you try to manually mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom -t iso9660 [08:55] k [08:55] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:56] rabbitea1: i suggest you get up to date with modern slackware before dishing out advice as gospel to users in this channel [08:56] candinho: you can tell a bunch of dicks created this software [08:56] i kid :) [08:56] rofl [08:56] one second i go reestart tor y something [08:56] brb [08:56] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:57] candinho: wtf are you talking about? [08:57] phrag: yes sir, I just have a 13.1 install [08:57] velcroshooz (burlynn@173-31-157-124.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [08:57] he left [08:57] phrag: my server been running like 12 something for years [08:57] phrag: and someone needs to tell him a lot of game cd's have audio in track1 for the game sounds [08:57] phrag: maybe 13 I forgot [08:57] rabbitea1: i meant you, what software and who are you calling a bunch of dicks? [08:58] phrag: just a joke, sorry [08:58] the slackware community, or the devs of the game cd's he's using? [08:58] phrag: tsccof laughed [08:59] Dominian (dominian@about/linux/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [08:59] phrag: I know I don't mean it, I started with slackware in the 90's [08:59] thrice` (thrice@slackadelic.com) joined ##slackware. [08:59] thrice` (thrice@slackadelic.com) left irc: Changing host [08:59] thrice` (thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [08:59] phrag: everything will be fine [08:59] bikcmp (jason@slackadelic.com) joined ##slackware. [08:59] Nick change: bikcmp -> Guest96920 [08:59] rabbitea1: be warned - there's been a lot of trolls in this channel, so trolling - even in jest - can trigger adverse affects here [08:59] phrag: I'm weird [09:00] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [09:00] that's definitly true [09:00] rob0 (~rob0@tuxaloosa.org) joined ##slackware. [09:00] rabbitea1: you are awesome [09:00] XGizzmo (~XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [09:00] (: [09:00] vbatts (~vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [09:00] PiterPunk (~piterpk@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [09:00] >> [09:00] trhodes (~tom@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [09:01] i can easily be killed [09:01] most people can [09:01] well ya, but lots don't know the fact [09:02] it might be easy to kill me, but I will never die [09:02] you wish [09:02] have you not seen those japanese mangas [09:02] a few good blows to the head and it is a dead end [09:02] with the english translations [09:02] Action: rabbitea1 plays more music [09:03] KaMii: nope [09:03] oh, they are really funny, they say stuff like, 'kill him, but make sure he doesnt die!' [09:04] wtf [09:04] go go translation! [09:04] haha [09:04] go! go! gadget translator [09:04] someone set us up the bomb [09:04] i know, but it makes it funnier because they are totally seriousy [09:04] all your base are belong to me [09:05] I _love_ Zerowing, to this day. [09:05] you tie anything to me, I'm running back to you, forget about family [09:05] actually you'd be dead so, I'm not sure [09:05] anywayz, just a thought [09:06] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:06] rabbitea1: what music are you listening to? [09:06] pink floyd money [09:06] but I probably shouldn't [09:06] rabbitea1: good stuff [09:06] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) joined ##slackware. [09:06] even with root i cant mount the cdrom:( [09:06] it actually makes you more pissed off not less [09:07] this slack 13.164 is bugged [09:07] echos echos [09:07] there once was a man named eugene, he invented a screwing machine, concave and complex, it served either sex, and it played with itself inbetween. [09:07] candinho: that doesn't sound right. [09:07] concave and conVEX [09:07] most of the time it [09:07] KaMii: w t f [09:08] 's the operator that's bugged [09:08] haha [09:08] ya convex, blah i cant type [09:08] KaMii: what are you smoking? xD [09:08] nothing, just massive insomina [09:08] like 2 days now [09:08] I think that one is in fortune -o [09:09] i see the truth [09:09] KaMii: ah yea [09:09] i hate it... hate it... doctors dont know why either :S [09:09] its summer anyway, all are up [09:10] ah cool now work [09:10] i changed fstab :) [09:10] congrats :) [09:10] your tough (how do you spell tuff) ? [09:10] good job candinho [09:10] tough, it is correct [09:10] w00t [09:10] limerick-o and fortunes2-o have a similar, but slightly different version [09:10] and how do you spell "you're"? [09:10] you're tough [09:10] fortune -a -o -m concave [09:11] ut: it is ur, noob, joke [09:11] thanks ut [09:11] ty a lot guys for ur patient and help [09:11] Action: ut grins [09:11] haha [09:11] we didn't do much, but you're welcome. [09:11] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [09:11] rob0: do you change those around a lot for your terminal logins? [09:11] KaMii: sneak some of Pappa's Absolut and get some sleep! [09:11] but i dont get , why should i have to change fstab, shouldnt just mount like the dvd, automatic? [09:11] *nods* [09:11] haha, I just use the default fortunes [09:11] he only has ouzo [09:12] and my fstab dont have /dev/dvd [09:12] how the slack mount the dvd? [09:12] Action: rabbitea1 takes a break [09:12] Action: ut looks at his fstab [09:12] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [09:12] mount /dev/cdrom [09:12] mine doesn't have any entries for the cdrom or dvd or anything either. [09:12] just try it [09:12] i'm sure it works. lemme find a disk. [09:13] by default we now have automounting [09:13] mine always uses /dev/cdrom for both cds and dvds [09:13] but, you can put what you want in fstab(5) [09:13] no idea about blu-ray, dont have, dont want [09:13] Action: tsccof wants blu-ray [09:14] Guys, I just found The Best of Tucows [09:14] have you seen how expensive one blank blue-ray disc is [09:14] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-238.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:14] and if it fails during write... your screwed [09:14] Over 600 MEGS of Internet software in one cd! [09:14] wow that kernel build was fast [09:14] but then again i turned a LOT of crap off [09:15] hurm. it came right up, but not in the file manager i'd like. [09:15] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Quit: BRB.... logs....arrgggccccc arrrrrrggggvvvvv [09:16] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [09:16] I was thinking about opening one of these cans of pinapple for food [09:16] but I probably won't [09:16] where's the switch to change the default file manager to launch when a data cd is inserted? [09:16] szonek (~soakda@unaffiliated/szonek) joined ##slackware. [09:16] hi [09:17] hi szonek [09:17] is there a way to filter only incoming packets with tcpdump? all packets [09:17] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:17] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:17] szonek: yes there is [09:17] you mean, the output of tcpdump? [09:18] I guess yes szonek [09:18] how build a wireless network? [09:18] iceheart: with wireless wires [09:19] must go [09:19] szonek: tcpdump dst [09:19] bye everyone [09:19] nite tsccof [09:19] rabbitea1: night [09:19] I'll go too [09:19] tsccof (~tsccof@189.74.208.59) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [09:19] I'm not helping much here, I'll be in archlinux-offtopic [09:20] \o/ [09:20] phrag: what if it is a router and not all packets have dst with my ip? [09:20] then change according to your needs, read the fscking manual ? [09:20] szonek: set the mask of the local/ net [09:21] szonek: 192.168.0.0/24 [09:21] if you dont know that, wtf use is tcpdump to you anyway [09:21] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FBF3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:22] is there anybody give a advice? [09:22] your computer should ignore packets not address to it [09:23] iceheart: your question is too vague [09:23] undefined video number 305: I get that in lilo boot up.... what do I need to do to change that? [09:23] or too wide [09:23] that's like coming in here and saying "so how do i build a computer" [09:23] answers are free, correct answers have a fee [09:23] well i did something wrong with my kernel [09:24] KaMii: you set vga= in lilo.conf ? [09:24] unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(8,2) [09:24] so it's not pointing at your root partition [09:25] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [09:25] Howdy-ho [09:25] phrag: i do not get that error when I boot the kernels that came with slack [09:25] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:25] hidey-ho [09:25] only on my broken custom kernel [09:26] kimjeng (mike@196.201.218.215) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:26] OMG KaMii do you ever sleep??? [09:26] KaMii: ah, then you have not included your root FS type in the kernel [09:26] not sure what I did wrong, but i guess i turned something off that needed to be on [09:26] i did include the file system [09:26] then i think your section for your custom kernel is defective in your lilo.conf [09:26] or loaded it with initrd [09:26] I set it for ext4 [09:26] Howdy Slackers [09:26] maybe it loaded with initrd? [09:26] yeh, if you sure your kernel is fine, then check your lilo.conf [09:26] you should include all file systems just incase [09:26] or my symlinks are wrong [09:26] you either build it into the kernel, or load with initrd [09:27] not both [09:27] Skywise: *all*? that's a bit overkill [09:27] all are included Skywise [09:27] with usb drives you could get anything [09:27] KaMii: typo in your lilo.conf i bet [09:28] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [09:29] no [09:29] because I changed symlinks [09:30] and they are all pointing right [09:30] so i did not need to edit that line in my lilo.conf [09:30] do you have lilo installing to mbr? [09:30] i think its the init.rd [09:30] yes lilo is intalled to mbr [09:30] why are you running an init.rd if you have your FS included in kernel? [09:30] idk if I am or now [09:30] not [09:31] also, after changing symlinks, did you reinstall the initrd and run lilo again ? [09:31] i ran lilo [09:31] but i did nothing with initrd [09:31] i dont know what initrd is [09:31] well in your lilo do you have an initrd line ? [09:31] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:31] i just have a question, why a custom kernel? [09:32] Skywise: becuase i needed to patch the kernel so World of Warcraft works, so I decided since im in there... have fun [09:32] lol [09:32] Skywise: srsly? [09:32] that's the best answer i've heard in ages >< [09:32] well, are you having fun? [09:33] Did you get WOW to work??? [09:33] I dont see anything in lilo about initrd [09:33] tr O o [09:33] arfon: yes it works. I did this once before but it was on ext3 this time im on ext4 [09:33] KaMii: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/slackware-kernel-compile-guide/ [09:33] for reference [09:33] KaMii: looks like initrd = /boot/initrd.gz [09:33] MapMan (mapman@2001:470:1f0a:120e::fe) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:33] maybe a blessing in disguise... your kernel doesnt want you to play wow =P [09:33] orgive me but HOW IN THE HECK did you get it to work?!?! [09:33] under the image line [09:34] Zordrak: i used that page as a guide [09:34] maybd i missed that part, dont remember seeing it [09:34] KaMii: the point being that the guide demonstrates how to avoid using an initrd as you generally do not need one [09:35] yes, and I never touched initrd.gz [09:35] first i ever heard about it [09:35] what's all that crap ? [09:35] there is no initrd in /boot [09:36] modest_user (d540ebe9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.64.235.233) left irc: [09:36] phrag: thats what you put as your custom name [09:36] you'd generate one if you were using a kernel that didn't have something you needed to boot [09:36] phrag: refers to whatever you put in for a custom [09:36] like your filesystem driver. there's a nifty readme in there. [09:36] WoW [09:36] is what I put in for a custom [09:36] yeh, that guide does not use initrd, its for compling a inclusive kernel (not modular) [09:36] phrag: foo-2.6.33.4-smp-phrag [09:36] for eg [09:36] yeh, i get that, it just looks confusing [09:37] meh [09:37] especially to someone compiling the kernel for the first time [09:37] youre the first person to say so :) [09:37] not really phrag tab-autocomplete makes it un-confusing [09:37] this all sounds fun. would i have a reason to compile my own kernel, given that i'm getting along just fine with the generic one? [09:37] i enjoyed it [09:37] but im a dork like that [09:37] phrag: see step 3.a. "Change your LocalVersion" [09:37] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) joined ##slackware. [09:37] Action: KaMii gets off on custom kernels [09:38] ut: no [09:38] KaMii: paste the output of: ls -l /boot and lilo.conf [09:38] Zordrak: i assume you wrote that guide? [09:38] guys what is name o wine channel here? [09:38] what, you mean i won't see massive performance gains? heheh. [09:38] phrag: since its my blog... :) [09:38] klein (~klein@unaffiliated/klein) joined ##slackware. [09:38] #wine probably [09:38] because i got the slackpackge and its not working [09:38] candinho: #wine ? [09:38] or ##wine perhaps [09:38] Zordrak: wondered why you were veremently defending it so =P [09:38] klein (klein@unaffiliated/klein) left ##slackware. [09:38] or /list wine [09:38] phrag: Pages > About Zordrak [09:38] =) [09:38] ty [09:39] i wasnt slagging it off, just curious as the the syntax =) [09:39] to the* [09:39] phrag: thats a lot to paste but all symlinks point to my custom kernel, config file, and System.map [09:40] not in the channel, in pastebin [09:40] KaMii: I don't think you'd have to patch the Slackware kernel for WoW [09:40] and the only changes I made in lilo.conf was to add one for the HUGE-smp kernel [09:40] is it about all these /proc/sys/kernel/sched_* entries you have to tune? [09:40] alienBOB: yes you do, its in the appsdb on winehq [09:40] System.map is irrelevant for booting, not used for anything in Slackware at all. [09:41] KaMii: fyi, i've played wow before with wine on stock slack (few years ago) and never had to change kernel [09:41] phrag: the 3.3.5 update kills it [09:41] KaMii: the default Slackware kernel has all these /proc/sys/kernel/sched_* entries by default - why patch the kernel? [09:41] ah ok [09:41] its in the appdb on winehq [09:41] So? [09:41] im just saying, the issue was reported there [09:41] Action: arfon wants to know how you guys got WoW working. [09:41] has you tried it yet? [09:41] arfon: its super easy [09:42] Skywise: yes I did try it [09:42] on my other HDD then that HDD died [09:42] now really, taunting me like that? :P [09:42] KaMii: what kernel version are you building? [09:42] 2.6.33.4 [09:42] smp [09:42] /j foresight [09:42] ops [09:42] sorry [09:43] you forgot the # [09:43] Ah ok. WoW also works on 2.6.35-rc5 [09:43] KaMii no [09:43] just a pres space before /j [09:43] Zordrak: love the cloud graphic =) [09:43] KaMii: what URL describes the kernel patch required for WoW? [09:43] hold on i will paste it here for you [09:44] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:44] candinho (~candinho@unaffiliated/candinho) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:45] http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23323 [09:45] phrag: aye, tis not bad [09:45] marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) joined ##slackware. [09:46] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:46] the patch is there on the site too alienBOB [09:47] spiraliz (~spiraliz@90.149.153.177) joined ##slackware. [09:48] Anyone get Anarchy Online working on Wine? [09:49] arfon join #winehq [09:49] and if you go in there and ask that they will tell you to check the appdb first before asking [09:49] HA ! That's funny! [09:49] its true [09:50] rafu (rafu@77.53.11.99) left ##slackware. [09:50] That poor guy came in asking what the wine channel was and eveyone told him #Wine... KaMii knew it was #winehq! [09:50] arfon if you need help with wow on linux, can I pm you? [09:50] I will probably take you up on that but, I'm at work now on console only. :( [09:51] oh ok, but WoW on linux is really simple to do, compared to others [09:51] I spent two weekends trying to get WoW, AO and/or UO working on wine and never quite made it. :( [09:51] oh, i can get it working for you in about 5 minutes [09:51] Why do you tease me so? [09:51] so when your not at work, find me [09:51] im not teasing you, im telling you the truth [09:52] or your money back guaranteed [09:52] KaMii: don't suppose you're on an ati card? [09:52] Action: KaMii wonders if anyone ever did get any money back [09:52] I'll bug you about it.. AND, what was that touchpad tap file again ? [09:52] ut i am on an nvidia card [09:52] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.99) joined ##slackware. [09:52] /etc/pbbuttons.conf [09:53] i will never forget that [09:53] on my gravestone it will say: /etc/pbbuttons.conf [09:53] I get NO SUCH FILE [09:54] is it slackintosh only? [09:54] maybe [09:54] Okay, thnx. Go back to your kernel discussions [09:54] i think its time to quit dipping into /b/. Just seen a dog thrown from a bridge. I dont usually do offended, but that one will stay with me. [09:54] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [09:55] ^^ [09:55] huh? [09:55] Do go there K [09:55] hi adrien [09:55] DONT [09:55] Zordrak: that's a bad place. you should avoid it. [09:55] ut: orly? [09:55] It's a hive of the scum of the universe. [09:56] im so lost [09:56] if they could limit themselves to throwing children from bridges, that'd be one thing. but dogs? i mean, really. [09:56] KaMii: Stay lost. It's better in the long run. [09:56] ut: dont make me tell my pedofile joke [09:56] Action: ut laughs [09:56] well i got it off bash.org [09:56] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@75-132-181-155.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:57] is there an SCP or sftp command that will transfer my /home directories and preserve ownership/permissions? [09:58] Action: arfon is moving to a new server today [09:58] rsync can do that [09:58] I have never used rsync, can you in two lines tell me how to set it up? [09:58] 2 words even [09:58] man rsync [09:58] arfon: man rsyncg [09:59] lmfao [09:59] you guys sux [09:59] surrounder: buttnugget |) [09:59] Zordrak: lol [09:59] i can do it in one [09:59] o/ o [09:59] RTFM [09:59] the man page has recipes. it's great. [09:59] Nice a onelinder [09:59] KaMii: thats four [09:59] oh... ya its an acronymn [09:59] :S [09:59] gezley (~gezley@86-42-210-198-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] man pages are worthless unless you already know how to do it but just need a refresher [09:59] arfon, no the manpage for rsync is a good primer [09:59] arfon: rsync -av /local/dir user@remote:/remote/dir [09:59] arfon: the rsync man page is friendlier than usual [10:00] don't miss the bit about whether to append a trailing / to directories or not [10:00] good point [10:00] Action: KaMii agrees with arfon: half the manpages out there, dont help at all for n00bs [10:00] arfon: so what do you suggest instead of man pages? [10:00] iPerl (cfy@122.87.168.196) left ##slackware. [10:00] EXAMPLE pages [10:00] you can test it before you run the command to see a list of files and what would happen to them [10:00] i use google, or this chatroom [10:00] the man page does include examples [10:00] we could exm rsync [10:00] Action: ut has been saying, the rsync manpage contains examples [10:01] I'll look ut [10:01] not to mention the info pages `info rsync` [10:01] Action: KaMii loves examples [10:01] netcat and tar is easier imho for such one time tranferes [10:01] they need ex pages [10:01] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:01] Action: arfon browses over to screen 4 [10:01] what I find interesting is that when people criticize unix-oriented documentation practices, they fail to consider the corresponding scenario in the "Windows" world, where everyone more relies on groupthink instead of documentation [10:01] rachael: not if remote reqs ssh.. whichi it should [10:02] well, still rk4n3 a picture is worth a thousand words [10:02] Action: arfon relies on group think for Linux [10:02] not hard to pipe over a ssh either [10:02] fdasdffd; [10:02] ... i.e. try finding documentation on any arbitrary Windows topic [10:02] (hence I'm here" [10:02] rachael: thats what rsync is doing [10:02] the default is -e ssh [10:03] its basically scp but with rsync handling code [10:03] whoops. must have hit ctrl-j. stupid thing. [10:03] stuart__ (~stuart@175.144.255.8) joined ##slackware. [10:03] rsync economizes what has to be transmitted [10:03] hi a,ll [10:03] arfon: re: relying on groupthing for linux ... that's just your Windows-oriented habit [10:04] s/groupthing/groupthink/ [10:04] Action: ut tends to go to primary documentation for details and blogs for higher-level understanding [10:04] OW rk4n3! [10:04] arfon: no pain intended :) [10:04] is it normal to not know how to use other distro's (especially those with automagic stuff) after slack [10:05] np r [10:05] Action: ut nods [10:05] we are all different, not robots, some want documentation, others want groupthink. and then thers the lazy ones who want everyone to do it for them [10:05] Nick change: stuart__ -> stu_ [10:05] Let me say this, the old HOWTOs were GREAT! Then the Ubuntu drones killed them off [10:05] wobbles (huntsman@C-61-68-165-160.bur.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:05] KaMii: start sending patches for the man pages then [10:05] stu_: I wouldn't say "how to use" ... there's more in common than not ... [10:05] yes, all those other distros are weird [10:05] ncrypthic (ncrypthic@125.160.220.103) left ##slackware. [10:06] sahko: i would if i knew what the man pages were saying [10:06] just try to guess where things are in some [10:06] i dont speak that language..... but i still try to understand them when i read them [10:06] I tried to find inetd.conf last night on a friend's Ubuntu box... HA! [10:06] i have a debian disk, and since its a quick install i'm on it just till i re-download 13.1, and everything is just so.. weird [10:06] stu_: it depends on what level of usage you're talking about, I suppose ... GUIs are an area where there will be more differences, but the shell/CLI operation should be mostly identical [10:06] AtuM (~atum@84-255-254-147.static.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [10:07] rk4n3, i'm just not into "don't install nvidia by sh nvidia-driver! you must do it the debian way!" -_- [10:07] love it: http://bash.org/?608100 [10:07] stu_ I put openSUSE 11.3 on yesterday... that lasted all of 1 hour, so I could redownload slack 13.1 [10:07] rk4n3, nope... Different distros have some really weird conf file setups [10:07] now opensuse is gone [10:07] stu_ : arfon: yeah, that's another area where there are differences [10:07] What happened to OpenSUSE? [10:08] i deleted it [10:08] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [10:08] but since slackware already fills the niche of a sane distro, the others needed something else to do [10:08] Friggin Debian and their insane synlinks everywhere [10:08] They are fscking morons [10:08] Hi, how come I get the "error opening/init the selected video_out (-vo) device."? [10:09] riza: in what context ? [10:09] Action: KaMii wants pizza [10:09] Zordrak: that's great. [10:09] Trying to play wmv. [10:09] It worked in 13.0. [10:09] which plyaer riza? [10:09] riza: get defcon its the best linux game ever [10:09] mplayer [10:09] riza: I wonder if your user has the right permissions ... what groups do you belong to ? [10:09] lol @ bash.org [10:09] rk4n3, users. [10:10] riza, does it open in Dragon Player? [10:10] is it wrong to run 13.0 without updating because i really can't take debian anymore [10:10] arfon, yes. [10:10] riza: you should be in plugdev, audio, and video groups for sure [10:10] Use Dragon then, mplayer sux [10:10] rk4n3, :( [10:10] :) [10:10] stu_, maybe, what's wrong with debian? [10:10] whats wrong with updating 13 stu_ [10:10] riza: after you add yourself to those groups, make sure you log completely out (out of X, and its underlying shell too), and re-login to get the new group permissions [10:10] cos my connection is only like 80kb/sec [10:11] 50-80 [10:11] ouch.... [10:11] o.O [10:11] rk4n3, gah I forget how to add existing users to group. [10:11] well, dont grab KDE [10:11] and only take the libs you need [10:11] thrice`, won't let me install something without first consulting sources.list [10:11] riza: google it [10:11] riza: well, one way is to edit the /etc/group file as root and just add manually :) [10:11] arfon: I have achieved 3g happiness (from yesterday). Got it working last night. Thanks for the help. [10:11] SpacePlod: then you did something wrong [10:11] uh [10:11] stu_ that is [10:11] SpacePlod: sorry for the tabfail [10:12] YAY SpacePlod!!! What was the answer? [10:12] nada surrounder [10:12] AtuM (atum@84-255-254-147.static.t-2.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:12] stu_, huh? also, installing packages is much tougher on slackware, fwiw [10:12] arfon: 42 [10:12] you could get away with installing just cd1 [10:12] adrien: lol [10:12] rk4n3, in 13.0 I didn't add myself to those group and it still worked. [10:12] the biggest help was using modem query. When it failed, the term errors were useful [10:12] Adrien, then what is the question Mr Smarty-pants? [10:13] SpacePlod, what was the final fix? [10:13] you know the answer, but you do not know the question [10:13] riza: well, its only a theory based on your error message ... you didn't get that in 13.0 either, did you ? [10:13] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [10:13] ah shit [10:13] No. I didn't get it in 13.0. [10:13] for some reason, I was putting in /dev/ttyACM0, but kppp was using /dev/usb/tty/ACM0 (which did not exist). [10:13] And flv and wmv worked welel. [10:13] i really can't handle debian, or ubuntu, [10:13] reinstalling 13.0 now brb [10:13] stu_ stay with 13.0 [10:13] the fix for that was ln -s to /dev/modem and specifying that. [10:13] ViN86 (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:14] then slowly start downloading the 13.1 packages [10:14] Dang Space, NOW I remember that kppp tried that on me also! I forgot about that [10:14] arfon: are you sure you want to know the question? :-) [10:14] riza: understood - so something is different, and the error message makes me think of permissions, for one [10:14] then in like a week or 2 you can be up to date [10:14] Now, Space, get it working with pppd scripts only :) [10:14] Hm. [10:14] or find a friend that has it and have him/her give you a copy [10:14] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:14] Adrien, :) Nah, not really, I like being stupid and bliss [10:14] but what i find weird is that if i install from a 13.1 .iso (at my friends now), the installation is 5GB, but if i install 13.0 and update to 13.1, it is 8GB? [10:15] no [10:15] slackpkg clean-system [10:15] or something like that [10:15] really, it is! [10:15] ok brb [10:16] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.255.8) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:16] Action: KaMii is going to go for pizza [10:16] ViN86_ (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:16] In fact I can't seem to play any video with mplayer for that matter. [10:16] Something is wrong. [10:17] SpacePlod, let me tell you the gotcha with pppd script 3G connecting, it doesn't like to fix the DHCP DNS correctly. [10:17] ViN86_ (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:17] ViN86_ (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:17] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [10:18] riza: can you play any video with xine ? [10:18] With Dragon Player I can. [10:18] I got around it by adding static DNS to resolv.conf with a script [10:18] And gxine too. [10:18] riza: hmm [10:18] ViN86__ (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:19] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:19] riza: if you want a really nice media center, try XBMC [10:19] you can find it on slackbuilds [10:19] Noo, I just wnat mplayer. [10:20] ViN86__ (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:20] ViN86__ (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:20] ViN86 (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:20] arfon: thanks. I may try and use my own dns, if the network allows. I have not tried yet. [10:21] ViN86 (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:21] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [10:21] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:22] ViN86_ (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:22] ViN86_ (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:22] IF you are using dhcp anywhere else on that machine (e.g. eth0), it will rewrite resolv.conf when it is used so everytime you connect with pppd, you should 'fix' resolv.conf [10:23] ViN86_ (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:23] ViN86_ (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:23] riza: did you upgrade, or clean install ? [10:24] anyoe got a dell E6410 on slack? [10:24] rk4n3, clean install. [10:24] ViN86__ (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:25] rafu (rafu@77.53.11.99) left ##slackware. [10:25] ViN86 (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:26] Strange huh? :( [10:27] riza: yeah, I'd probably have to do some research on that one [10:27] ;_; [10:28] ViN86_ (ViN86@dhcp-18-111-34-14.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:30] Okay bbl. [10:30] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [10:32] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:32] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:32] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:34] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:34] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [10:34] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [10:36] Hello, do i have to download php and install it, or does it come installed with a full slackware install [10:36] ? [10:37] php is there, you have to config apache to use it pim_ [10:37] thats all I got pim_ [10:37] pim_, php is installed with a full install [10:38] hmm ok then [10:39] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.255.8) joined ##slackware. [10:39] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:39] back. that wasn't so bad [10:41] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:41] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.255.8) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:41] foobarz (1000@125.25.120.171.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) joined ##slackware. [10:41] foobarz (1000@125.25.120.171.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net) left irc: Changing host [10:41] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [10:42] yay [10:42] Action: KaMii has pizza [10:43] Action: arfon hates js [10:43] well i have enabled php, but when i refresh the page my browser offers to open the php file or to save it [10:43] Action: KaMii still hates udev [10:44] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.12.51.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:45] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.255.8) joined ##slackware. [10:45] this is the best pizza in sweden [10:46] KaMii: :( [10:47] rabbitea1: [10:47] i heard different [10:47] I called my friend in fairbanks, and ask him to order me pizza [10:48] Action: ananke guesses it uses lutefisk instead of anchovies :) [10:48] but thats even beond me. [10:48] oh noes [10:48] thats like 350 miles away [10:48] ananke: surstromming [10:48] Ciphers (~Cipher@unaffiliated/cipher/x-6094700) joined ##slackware. [10:48] whats that? reindeer tendons? [10:49] i wont tell you, but if you ever come to sweden, you HAVE to try it [10:49] it is a traditional thing [10:49] hello, sorry for this, but i'm wondering if there is anyone interest in buying the following doamin names: [10:49] oh no, cause i might [10:49] bits.ly bytes.ly softwares.ly and systems.ly [10:49] if there is any, just let me know then [10:49] Thanks for listening [10:49] oh, i NEVER eat traditional foods [10:49] Ciphers (Cipher@unaffiliated/cipher/x-6094700) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:49] Skywise: i doubt you would ever eat it [10:49] nope [10:50] or, how brave are you? [10:50] not at all when it comes to food [10:50] basically it is illegal to open a can of that inside a building [10:50] watch Food, Inc, and you will not eat for months [10:50] the smell literally will not leave for 6 months [10:50] yeah, i don't think i want any of that [10:51] or to be near any of that [10:51] its rotton fish, that was probably caught before you were born [10:51] and yes, we eat it [10:51] yeah [10:51] you nordics like fish flavor [10:51] i ate it [10:51] KaMii: i'd love to try it [10:51] Action: rabbitea1 dreams of fishing [10:51] then after when i brushed my teeth [10:51] my dutch friends couldn't believe i didn't like herring [10:51] i had to throw away my toothbrush [10:51] Action: ananke loves some pickled herring [10:52] it was like radioactive or something [10:52] oh SIL is awesome [10:52] thats pickeled herring [10:52] see, i don't think things like that should be eaten [10:52] I would laugh but I'm too tired [10:52] i eat it all the time [10:52] that is funny [10:52] Skywise: how can you not like herring? :P [10:52] its my favorite [10:52] i don't like strong fish flavors [10:52] i don't even like caviar [10:52] and salmon aslo [10:52] or samon [10:52] salmon [10:52] u dont like caviar?????? [10:52] we eat salmon [10:52] nope [10:52] i eat that like for breakfast [10:53] i like shell fish shrimp, scallops, lobster [10:53] with a nice oyster milkshake [10:53] i like mild flavored fish like flounder, cod [10:53] hahaha [10:53] lol [10:54] you would of loved some egg salad a french friend of mine gave me, i think it had oyster juice in it [10:54] Action: arfon like the milder flavor fish like beef and pork and chicken [10:54] Action: Skywise loves those fish too [10:54] fish flavord beer? [10:54] brainvision (~brainvisi@host243-13-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:54] although, i'll still pass on mountain oysters [10:54] >:p [10:54] well, you just have to dip in [10:54] mountain oysters != beef [10:55] mountain oysters? [10:55] and grab one, but its illegal [10:55] i don't even like dark tuna [10:55] Don't ask, it's twisted [10:55] in the city [10:55] beef is called mountain oysters? [10:55] no [10:55] NO [10:55] lol [10:55] mountain oysters != beef [10:55] ture [10:55] what is it then? [10:55] true even [10:55] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:55] testicles [10:55] balls [10:55] ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww [10:55] im eating pizza [10:56] ewwwwwwwwwwwww [10:56] you kept asking [10:56] we t ried not to tell you [10:56] Are you happy that you asked now? :) [10:56] who would eat that? [10:56] thats just wrong [10:56] poor cows [10:56] same kinda people who eat rotten fish i'd guess [10:57] do you eat ther...... thingy also???? hot cows? instead of hot dogs [10:57] Action: arfon plays banjo music [10:57] or cabbage or cheese [10:57] Action: arfon eats ONLY muscles [10:57] one ringy dingy [10:57] kim chee and stilton are nasty too [10:57] ,--doesn't do organs [10:57] IIUC just about every part of a bovine is used in some way. [10:57] i wanna try haggas one day [10:57] or glands [10:57] not even skin [10:57] i like chicken skin [10:57] blech [10:57] especially when its crispy [10:57] kfc ftw [10:58] I like chicken BREADING [10:58] kim chee is not a food, its to clean the pallet [10:58] i got chicken aides from kfc [10:58] ahah [10:58] kfc got rid of thier boneless buffalo wings => kfc = fail [10:58] i'll agree its not a food [10:58] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [10:58] Chicken aides? Not chicken Hiv? [10:58] but how you could clean anything with something so funky is beyond me [10:58] i was ill for like 2 months from kfc, never again [10:59] you're not supposed to eat the bones [10:59] this is why its packaged with sushi [10:59] it was probably the worker not the chicken [10:59] didnt wash hands [10:59] actually, the franchise varies greatly between locations [10:59] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [10:59] you can try and agree with me Skywise, but I'm always right :) [11:00] franchies = indepentant owners [11:00] so you cover the smell of fish with rotten cabbage? [11:00] sickn3ss (~sickn3ss@89.123.134.236) joined ##slackware. [11:00] Hey guys is there anyway to find out the usage of my Video memory ? [11:00] => varying standards of quality and cleanliness [11:00] right [11:00] its cabbage from the sea [11:00] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.114.135) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:00] that they bury underground [11:00] and I don't know where you got rotten fish from [11:00] kinchi? [11:01] kimchi? [11:01] must be something about the oil spill or something [11:01] KaMii is eating that [11:01] this is Alaska, we are chillin [11:01] Action: arfon hates kimchi, loves saurkraut [11:01] How's the mosquitos now Rabbit? [11:01] saurkraut doesn't actually have to be rotten it only smells like it [11:02] tatses good though [11:02] any kind of programs who can tell me the usage of my video card memory ? [11:02] wertik_rus (~wertik@195.239.215.34) joined ##slackware. [11:02] yeah, i do like it on a hot dog with mustard sometimes [11:02] sickn3ss: nvidia has some tools [11:02] I don't know sickn3ss [11:02] Action: KaMii is eating saurkraut right now [11:02] on your pizza? [11:02] arfon: in fairbanks its much much much worse [11:02] in sweden it comes with pizza [11:03] I have a co-worker up there now... I'm hoping he doesn't come back... keep him plz [11:03] wow [11:03] I have Intel graphic card :D [11:03] i'll have to remember to cancel that [11:03] arfon: will do [11:03] Thnx bud! [11:03] don't mention it [11:03] You'll know him, he'll be the annoying one [11:03] arfon: there are many [11:04] Oh, he'll stand out! [11:04] but then I'm annoying too sometimes [11:04] arfon: now I'm coursious [11:04] arfon: is he in Anchorage? [11:04] rabbitea1: Are there any LUGs in Alaska? [11:04] how so ? [11:04] I don't know. :( I just know he' on a 2wk Alaska cruise [11:05] chance22: see, this is the thing..... way too much to explain [11:05] and it's been 1wk, 4 days of quiet bliss here [11:05] its closer to join the russian lugs if you're wasilla [11:05] chance22: no, basicly, its just us [11:05] you can see russia from there, ya know [11:05] who goes to russia for a lug? =P [11:05] chance22: me and a classmate we're going to start one, but he has a wife etc etc [11:05] I can see Russia from here (Texas), the internet is wonderful! [11:06] Hell I can order a bride from Russia here. Fuck seeing it. [11:06] rabbitea1: I was in the army at Fort Richardson in the 90's, and I always toyed with the idea of moving back there some day to retire. [11:06] arfon: in Gnome (the place) you can actually see russia [11:06] you'd think with all the time they have to waste in alaska that someone would discover linux but they picked drinkin and shooting wolves instead [11:06] you just whistle and they swim over [11:07] Yeah Alan, that worked out so well for Hans... :) [11:07] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: ... [11:07] i totally lost track of all conversations [11:07] Action: arfon does dark humor [11:07] arfon: He made the mistake of killing her instead of just divorcing her. [11:07] i'd be afraid a russian bride would kill ya in the night and steal your identity [11:07] Just agree with me Rabbit and you'll be fine [11:07] Skywise: That's why you chain them up in the basement at night. [11:07] i agree [11:08] Hey, she nneded killin' [11:08] (jk) [11:08] yes! [11:08] Action: phrag worries [11:08] I actually feel sorry for both of them.... [11:08] arfon: All joking aside, in the Great State of Georgia, our Constitution specifically states that jurors shall be judges of both fact and law, meaning the jury can nullify the law even if the facts say a crime has been committed. [11:08] it prolly started out as a divorce and he ended up killing her in the settlement [11:09] That means the "He needed killin'" defense is not only legal in this State, it's Constitutional. [11:09] jury nullification rocks [11:09] Hans prolly did kill her and that's wrong but can you imagine what she was like to push a nerd to become that violent??? [11:09] Alan_Hicks: that's.. random [11:09] but it only works 1 case at a time [11:09] or maybe he was just wtf crazy [11:09] Hans was always jsut WTF crazy. [11:09] I wanna sign your papers arfon, but I think it would be really hard to say politically [11:09] Really smart people generally ARE crazy [11:10] There's a fine line between genious and insanity. [11:10] I think I read somewhere that he had Asperger Syndrome [11:10] there's a fine line between genious and madness [11:10] the problem with being smart is you see how wrong the rest of the world is [11:10] really smart poeple actually sleep [11:10] I straddle that line with one foot firmly planted on each side at all times. [11:10] Alan_Hicks: aha, jinx =P [11:10] rabbitea1: lies, slackers dont sleep [11:10] Phrag won! Alan, you have to ride the goat now [11:11] Action: Alan_Hicks rides the goat. [11:11] you are both right! [11:11] There. Happy? [11:11] Action: phrag whips said goat to go faster [11:11] pull a goat wheelie [11:11] You didn't wear the hat. :( [11:11] Action: rabbitea1 rewinds Wipeout [11:11] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:11] I've never ridden a goat. Hogs? Yes. All the time. Never a goat. [11:12] Dare we ask Alan? [11:12] goats are more nimble and run on anything [11:12] i used to ride our labradore dog when i was really small.. one of my oldest memories =P [11:12] arfon: Nothing sexual was involved, and a great time was had by all. [11:12] i'm sure he didnt like it =P [11:12] i had a friend with a st benard named brutus you could ride [11:12] Did the pigs have fun? [11:12] well I like texas today. [11:12] labs are patient but yeah, liking it? doubt it. [11:13] arfon: Well no, but they're pigs. Who cares? [11:13] Skywise: lol [11:13] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.12.51.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:13] how amazing is that [11:13] Awww, poor pigs [11:13] Skywise: we've had one of those too, it was huge and slobered everywhere =P [11:13] gm arfon, skywise; hello all [11:13] 1 a.m., four teenage boys, three dozen hogs, and a dream. [11:13] Sounds like the by-line for a B-movie. [11:13] i could never stab a goat [11:14] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [11:14] You forgot the beer [11:14] in real life [11:14] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:14] yeah, brutus had a hankerchief around his neck to wipe off with, it lasted about 5 mins and then you didn't even wanna touch it [11:14] arfon: too early [11:14] rabbitea1: And that is why you will never be initiated into the upper echelon of Slackware society. [11:14] lol! [11:14] o/\o [11:14] yes! [11:14] the goat stabbing is crucial [11:15] goat sacrifise is at the core of most linux work [11:15] Where did "stab a goat" come from? [11:15] Guys what is happening ... the top command shows me all memory is used and the system monitor shows only 300 MB used ... which one is true ? [11:15] OH!!! [11:15] freaking can't get into havard because of it [11:15] pim_ (1000@slacker.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:15] nvrmnd [11:15] Although in all honesty it is a slice and not a stab. [11:15] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.12.51.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:15] sickn3ss: disk cache? [11:15] sickn3ss: What does "free -m" say? [11:15] hmmm something like this Mem: 962 937 25 0 10 546 [11:16] total used free shared buffers cached [11:16] Mem: 241 236 4 0 2 195 [11:16] -/+ buffers/cache: 39 201 [11:16] Channel flood from rabbitea1 -- kicking [11:16] Swap: 1623 33 1589 [11:16] rabbitea1 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [11:16] HA! [11:16] believe the figure that says +/- cache [11:16] ugh [11:16] spam kicks are funny [11:16] so [11:16] daniel_s (~daniel_s@188-194-153-115-dynip.superkabel.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:16] total memory - cached memory ? [11:16] no autojoin :( [11:17] He's sitting there still typing thinking he's still on :) [11:17] its the 2nd number after buffers/cache that you care about [11:17] Zordark so it's like Total memori - cached memory ? [11:17] mamory* [11:17] memory* ffs [11:17] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:18] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:18] btw spam=>flood [11:18] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] this is wierd ... [11:18] can anyone help me understand shit [11:18] :)) [11:18] this* [11:18] arfon: lol [11:18] :) [11:18] sickn3ss: We've already asked you what "free -m" says. [11:19] Action: Skywise fires up his home made electroshock therapy kit for sickn3ss [11:19] sickn3ss: paste to pastebin.com [11:19] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.94.149) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:19] ok [11:19] you have 201mb free [11:19] i gave you the output [11:19] :d [11:19] its the 2nd number after buffers/cache that you care about [11:19] can you do what was asked of you please? [11:19] or quit asking for support =P [11:19] like thats gonna happen [11:20] http://pastebin.com/b44SUPE7 [11:20] Are you guys looking at his video memory? That what he was asking about (unless I missed something) [11:20] free doesn't do video memory [11:20] so 566MB is disk cache, which is released as soon as the system needs it [11:21] so I have 566 free ram :D thank you [11:21] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:21] got a little scared ... [11:21] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:21] sickn3ss: no [11:21] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-51-153.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:22] sickn3ss: you have 962MB, actually using 315MB, and 566MB disk cache [11:22] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [11:22] so you have 881MB free effectively [11:23] my custom kernel booted [11:23] lol :) thank you phrag [11:24] but i get the error: WARNING: All config files need .config: /etc/modprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release [11:24] i built it with the module for my soundcard [11:24] so why am I getting this? [11:24] that's a warning. [11:24] thats unrelated to the kernel [11:25] I think the alsaconf bug has already been fixed. [11:25] all files in /etc/modprobe.d/ should be */conf [11:25] all files in /etc/modprobe.d/ should be *.conf [11:25] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.94.149) joined ##slackware. [11:25] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:25] uh.... so what do i do? [11:26] you could rename them, or just ignore i [11:26] you could rename them, or just ignore it [11:26] damn [11:26] but will sound not work? [11:27] if the file is proper yes [11:27] Your /etc/modprobe.d/sound will be ignored in a future release of modutils, or whatever it's called now. [11:28] If you never upgrade that, yours will never be ignored. [11:28] Or, mv /etc/modprobe.d/sound /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf [11:28] artveee (~artveee@docc7094.oc.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [11:29] sickn3ss: welcome =P [11:31] do i need to go into init3 for slackpkg upgrade from 13.0 to 13.1? [11:31] init 1 is a good idea [11:32] I usually use init 3 [11:32] ^ too [11:32] never had a problem yet [11:33] motaro (ricardori@190.166.108.188) left ##slackware. [11:33] stu_, upgrade slackpkg first, and then do a new slackpkg update [11:33] stu_: ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware64-13.1/UPGRADE.TXT [11:33] 0. Put your machine in single-user mode: telinit 1 [11:33] Zordrak: did your article about umask start the madness @ aols? [11:34] but doesn't telinit 1 take away network capabilities [11:34] yes it does [11:34] about the issue that I said before (i915/intel video driver), KDE 4.5-rc2 works better in my notebook, without freeze when the effects are enabled. [11:34] but i'm updating with network? [11:34] Note that this is _not_ strictly required, and there have been reports of success remotely upgrading machines that are still in multiuser mode. However, more things can go wrong in multiuser... [11:35] you could always init 1, then /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 start [11:36] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:36] alright [11:37] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [11:38] artveee (~artveee@docc7094.oc.warwick.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:38] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:39] Zordrak: i guess not , you posted about it the next day the discussion was started [11:39] okay how do i go to init 1 [11:39] telinit 1 [11:39] k updating now [11:39] bbl [11:43] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB71D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:44] cristianmanuel (~quassel@186.125.10.95) joined ##slackware. [11:45] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.255.8) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:46] sahko: what madness? [11:46] wow, not running slackpkg upgrade-all for a while is bad. I have a *lot* of updates to apply. [11:47] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:47] thumbs: can you simply do that while running in multi user mode? [11:47] Roin: for most packages, yes. [11:47] Zordrak: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.slackware/browse_thread/thread/16e17afe26cddb97# [11:47] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:47] ok thx ._. [11:47] Roin: I always blacklist the kernel* packages, anyway [11:48] Action: phrag does not recommend upgradeing slackware without reading and following UPGRADE.TXT [11:48] I see :D [11:48] phrag: I just type random letters and hope for the best [11:48] that's the SA way =P [11:48] Roin: I'm not upgrading releases. [11:49] Yeah I know [11:49] CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT too. [11:49] thumbs: I never ran it up until 13.1 [11:49] Roin: slackpkg upgrade-all will apply all updates for the current release. [11:49] thumbs: and I've been around since 2004.. heh. I just kept stock.. and sometimes skipped versions.. [11:49] raela: heh [11:49] I'm better now. really. [11:49] stu_ (~stuartSan@175.144.255.8) joined ##slackware. [11:50] g4tsu (~g4tsu@178.146.194-77.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:50] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:50] I usually dont upgrade something if it isnt work [11:50] phrag: what did you say earlier, /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 start? [11:50] raela: i thought you were older than 6 =P [11:50] stu_: to start networking, yes [11:50] my philosophy: dont fix it if it aint broken, dont brake it if you dont know how to fix it :D [11:50] phrag: sweet updating now. will prolly take half a day with my connedction. bbl [11:50] but in practice =P [11:50] guys is there anyway I can upgrade java plugin from firefox ? :P [11:51] phrag: naaah, and I'm pretty much an idiot.. I'm still all not too great with things :P I know enough to use linux comfortably [11:51] stu_: good luck =) [11:51] Roin: well, people got on my case when I said I didn't upgrade due to security issues [11:51] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:52] hm ok, well if theres a package with a security issue I'm aware of I would upgrade it, but only this one package and its dependencies ._. [11:52] which is pretty much all the version upgrades are, I believe [11:52] just security patches [11:56] guys can someone tell me a good av and a firewall for slack ? :D [11:56] only firewall sorry [11:56] iptables [11:57] yea .. except that ... O_o [11:57] firehol [11:57] and there are some things that make that process easier (such as guarddog -- you can find it on slackbuilds) [11:59] sickn3ss: for anti-virus, you might want to have a look at clamv (also on SBo) [11:59] raela, i never heard of firehol... sounds great from what i'm reading [11:59] Hmm I'll try firehol and BP{k} thanks :D downloaded clamav right now [12:00] shonudo: yeah, another reason I got flack was no sort of firewall config.. so agentc0re told me to set up firehol since it's pretty easy to use [12:03] tpocra (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:03] I plugged a 2TB HDD with one big encrypted logical volume into a new debian machine... how can I get LVM2 to see it in /dev/mapper without destroying it? [12:03] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl7-137-242.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:05] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@75-132-181-155.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [12:05] brainvision (~brainvisi@host243-13-dynamic.53-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:06] luksOpen, vgscan, vgchange -ay, fdisk -l [12:07] Zordrak: I needed to vgchange first [12:07] it's an LV first, then encrypted [12:07] But that's what I was looking for [12:07] thanks [12:10] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:10] phrag: phew. Updated 30 boxes. [12:11] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.248) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:11] tawfiq (~tawfiq@41.140.12.211) joined ##slackware. [12:11] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-8-239.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:12] troy (~troy@205.150.123.10) joined ##slackware. [12:13] I hate work, what did I miss? [12:14] thumbs: what boxes? [12:14] brainvision (~brainvisi@host139-74-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:14] phrag: servers at the colo, servers at home, servers at the office [12:15] phrag: I have slack boxes everywhere [12:15] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:17] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:17] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [12:17] josemanuel (~josemanue@209.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:18] thumbs: good game =) [12:18] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:18] Action: troy waves, just for fun [12:18] wish ours were slack.. we run centos mostely [12:19] phrag: I have 40+ centos boxes, too! [12:19] wertik_rus (~wertik@195.239.215.34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:19] Action: troy bangs his head against the centos boxes in his lab ... *bang* *bang* *bang* [12:19] I had centos on frankie for two weeks then installed slack [12:20] hosted in frankfurt ? =P [12:20] so troy, I want to remove hal from my slackware machine, but the 4.6 trunk has zero code to do so, nor iirc is anyone working on it. please fix, thanks. [12:20] we got one of our DC's there [12:20] nah, for frankenstein, named by my adviser.. all of the other lab boxen were ordered from dell (winxp). this one was ordered in pieces and assembled :P [12:20] phrag: no. [12:21] err. [12:21] thrice`: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-hardware-devel&m=127158738521531&w=2 [12:21] slowly working on it [12:22] thats just the power branch of course. dont know about rest [12:23] hmmm, can't remember, is there a way to disable/blacklist a kernel module on the lilo command-line? [12:23] sahko, here is two months later: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-hardware-devel&m=127715437117176&w=2 [12:23] SlackLnx (~SlackWare@bl7-137-242.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:24] I'm pretty sure there is no way it'll be ready by 4.6 [12:24] yeah, same thread. dont watch the main devel lists lately [12:24] 4.6 is january? [12:25] I think so [12:26] i didnt think xfce would get it going that fast tbh, but it was sponsored so the dev did it pretty fast [12:26] indeed, and gnome + x.org are done too I think [12:27] yeah gnome was first, followed by xorg [12:29] hey guys why does slackware remove my clamav when I type slackpkg clean-system ? [12:29] sickn3ss, it'll give you a nice list before doing anything [12:29] sickn3ss: man slackpkg [12:29] because "clean-system" is shortcut for "remove everything that's not stock slackware" [12:29] and what sahko said :) [12:30] j0z__ (unix@201.22.11.79.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: BitchX: its magically delicious! [12:31] done I added clamav to blacklist [12:31] :D [12:32] blacklist just means slackpkg won't update it I think - not sure if clean-system will follow it [12:33] tmobile turned up a ton of markets with HSDPA+ [12:33] HSPA+ i mean [12:33] go out and buy [12:33] LiquidSnake (~celingest@unaffiliated/get) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [12:33] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [12:33] alisonken1home: blacklist means it will ignore it completely, including clean-system :) [12:34] clean-system will follow it :D [12:34] tried it [12:34] and it worked [12:35] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Client Quit [12:35] Where is the blacklist file? [12:35] /etc/slackpkg/blacklist [12:35] ty [12:35] or you could just [12:35] slackpkg blacklist program_name [12:35] a question: if I change the lilo.conf and run the lilo, should I run mkinitrd again? [12:35] BP{k}: cool - learn something new every day :) [12:35] new kernel powtrix? [12:36] no just added a memtest86+ [12:36] only if something has changed [12:36] powtrix: depends on the changes in lilo.conf. probably in your case with memtest .. no [12:36] you only need to rerun lilo if all you did was add another boot option [12:37] ok, let me try [12:39] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [12:39] mpa_ (~mpa@82.42.192.179) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:41] thanks you [12:42] thrice`: I talked to the solid maintainers two weeks ago, and they're targetting 4.6... [12:42] thrice`: keep in mind that 4.6 only freezes in a few months [12:42] thrice`: and no, I don't touch that code :P [12:43] kr_eten (~quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:44] does someone know how to install qt documentation on slackware? [12:44] hmm with qt-4.6.3 konqueror still cant open html5 youtube videos [12:44] In httpd config the "Listen" option for multiple ports... Comma, space or new line delimited? [12:44] kr_eten: slackbuilds.org qt-doc [12:45] hm, thanks i will look into it [12:45] httpd.conf I meant [12:47] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-123-181.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [12:49] sahko, thanks again. i have installed it [12:49] kr_eten (quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:49] np [12:49] I HATE THE NVIDIA DRIVER [12:49] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [12:49] (thanks for your attention :-) ) [12:49] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:51] Adrien, nVidia's driver or xorg's nv driver? [12:51] he means the blob [12:52] nvidia [12:52] <--doesn't know what 'the blob" is. [12:52] driver on nvidia.com [12:52] :( I LOVE nVidia's driver [12:52] at least, I'll be able to compare to nouveau to find out how much power it can save [12:52] waabimiigwan (~steven@106-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:52] "The Blob" in kernel speak is any driver that shoves itself into the kernel that was not originall part of the kernel [12:52] and I'll make a dump for power management [12:52] TY Ken! [12:53] btw, with nouveau, in console, my computer takes around 22W [12:53] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [12:53] without nouveau, it takes around 28W [12:53] bah [12:53] and the problem is that I'm using xorg-server-1.8, so I need a newer nvidia kernel [12:53] and they moved several files around [12:54] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-123-181.kotinet.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:54] like the structure of the files in the driver has changed [12:54] newer than the slackbuild one? [12:54] yes [12:54] arfon: yeah, I need 256.xx I think [12:54] kr_eten (~quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:55] That was for you Ken [12:56] kr_eten (~quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) left irc: Client Quit [12:56] (I was no help) [12:56] yup =) [12:56] :) [12:56] :(~~~~ [12:56] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-82-141-123-181.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [12:57] arfon: drooling again? [12:58] 6 minutes until lunch, I can't help it [12:58] should have been :~( [12:58] basically, they flattened the directory structure: no more usr/, usr/lib*/, usr/include/..., everything in the same folder >< [12:59] they even flattened usr/include/{cuda,CL}/, basically *everything* [13:01] whats the flattened dir? [13:01] didnt notice i just installed it here [13:01] in 256.35 drivers [13:02] yeah have those for a while [13:02] I need to edit half the slackbuild ='( [13:02] hba (~hba@189.130.54.72) joined ##slackware. [13:02] I'm so glad you guy trash your systems to test out all the new stuff so us late adopters have nice systems... Thanks! [13:02] /o\  [13:02] adrien: whats "the same folder" location? [13:02] guy=guys [13:03] lunch time! neener neener [13:03] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:03] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:03] sahko: root folder of the extracted package [13:03] Nick change: Wulf-is-not-here -> WireWulf [13:03] and I've removed the back cover of my laptop and have it on my laps... [13:04] i just think the slackbuild doesnt work now, like you said. i'd check pprkut's github. maybe hes got somehting in the works [13:05] gah, well, I guess it's too late now :-) [13:05] anyway, github in links... [13:05] doesnt seem to have touched -beta since may so doubt it [13:07] I had forgotten why I wasn't using the nvidia(.com) driver, now I remember: crappy resolution in console, need to deal with a blob, need to reinstall it everytime I upgrade my kernel (I'm on 2.6.3*5*-rc4+ #21, that gives you an idea of how often...), less stable... 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[13:18] brainvision (~brainvisi@host139-74-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev [13:20] pprkut: I admire you [13:23] kinky [13:26] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-104-221.w109-212.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:27] scrolling in firefox was sluggish and tearing, but i left the default xorg.conf load composite extension and turned back on the KDE composite (opengl), now graphics scroll and transition smooth... I guess composite is need on modern hardware, disabled composite seems like a non-optimized legacy mode now [13:27] nouveau actually requires a composition manager now [13:28] cd [13:28] bah [13:29] cd - [13:29] rirombo (~rirombo@h113.187.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [13:33] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FBF3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:33] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-31-251.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:37] ok, so explain this.... I did a new install of slack 13.1 on my HDD that did not crash and die, compiled a kernel, rebooted. after reboot i did a fdisk -l and the swap drive is already showing errors [13:38] /dev/sda1 1 523 4192256 82 Linux swap [13:38] Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. [13:40] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:40] run: 'fdisk -c -u /dev/foo' [13:41] should i exit xfce first? [13:42] depends on what you want to do... [13:42] I only meant that you should run 'fdisk -c -u' instead of only 'fdisk', that'll get rid of the warning [13:43] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:43] (it _does_ matter when you have 4 disks and 20 partitions) [13:43] right now just 2 partitions [13:43] well 3 if you cound swap [13:46] user0 (~user0@99.141.235.7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:50] pprkut: I wouldn't mind if you popped on the channel like a fairy tale (ok, you can be a [unix] wizard with a white beard down your feet) with a slackbuild for the 256.35 nvidia driver [13:51] meaning I'm going to install without a slackbuild and I'll reinstall everything after, might even try nouveau's 3D support :-) [13:53] hah, yay WoW works! [13:54] josemanuel (~josemanue@209.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [13:56] adrien: nouveau support slackware where???? [13:56] you need a 2.6.34 kernel [13:56] slackware 13.1 ships a 2.6.33 [13:57] is it already included in the kernel [13:57] slackware 13.1's nouveau support in kernel (yes, included) is incompatible with 13.1's X version [13:57] (100% because of the nouveau developpers) [13:58] oh, and you have to recompile mesa too [13:58] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-242-235.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:58] so with the upcoming relese it could be in slackware ? [13:58] *************** DRIVER [13:59] m3tti: most probably [13:59] it prevents the use of the nvidia driver but honestly, I'd say it's nvidia's problem [13:59] ok than i've to wait XD [14:00] (2D has been working really well for me, I know it's not perfect but I think nouveau is more stable than nvidia anyway) [14:01] and I saw the nvidia logo when starting X (even though X failed), the horror... 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[14:09] I'm happy with both nouveau and radeon ;-) [14:09] alisonken1home: i've a ati card on my laptop but an nvidia card in my desktop pc [14:12] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:12] waiting for the battery to be fully charged and I'm going to see how much power this driver saves compared to nouveau [14:15] anybody know the name of the virtio kernel modules? [14:15] virtio* ? [14:16] or virt* ? [14:16] cristianmanuel (~quassel@186.125.10.95) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:17] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:19] doesnt matter :D [14:28] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [14:29] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [14:32] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:34] sickn3ss (~sickn3ss@89.123.134.236) joined ##slackware. [14:34] Guys ... I don't have sound in slackware only on my headphones [14:34] ... [14:34] did you check your speaker volume? [14:34] alsamixer [14:34] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6AE7C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] If anyone has used id3v2 app from SlackBuilds, have you ever had it corrupt (i.e. cut from 2.9M to 882K) the mp3 files that you were trying to set tags on? [14:38] goj (~goj@p5488F7DD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:38] done I figured it out [14:38] :)) [14:38] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [14:38] sickn3ss ..and it was? [14:39] whats the command to restart eth0 [14:39] I had only selected master channel [14:39] the Speaker channel was muted [14:39] in KMix [14:39] :) [14:39] or to restart all ethernet [14:39] KaMii: do you mean "ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up" ? [14:39] KaMii.. ifconfig eth0 down [14:40] the entire thing, i just switched from dhcp to static [14:40] ifconfig eth0 up [14:40] Wiren (~skg@64.20.169.162) joined ##slackware. [14:40] nixchix0R (~mrspwn@75-132-181-155.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:40] oh ya, i knew that... duh [14:40] thanks [14:40] Can you /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart? [14:40] uhh that didnt work [14:41] it still put me back on dhcp [14:42] You used pkgtool to reconfigure eth0? [14:42] thats not working its still giving me the dhcp one [14:43] even though ifconfig says im on the one i assigned [14:43] did you use pkgtool to reconfigre eth0? [14:43] i used netconfig [14:43] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [14:43] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@75-132-181-155.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:43] i always use netconfig [14:43] Ah [14:43] and up/dn didn't work? [14:43] i hate dhcp because my router loves to play musical IP addresses [14:44] up/dn put me back on what I was on before [14:44] Nick change: WireWulf -> Wulf-is-not-here [14:44] Well... You could set your router to always give you the same IP address base on your linux box's MAC address [14:44] my router is so retarded it cannot see linux machines [14:45] it sees everything else, but linux.. it cant see them [14:45] It can't see what IP addresses it's given out? [14:45] so dhcp does crazy things [14:45] no you cant [14:45] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-63-4.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:45] It's that damned metric electricity K [14:45] besides that comp is not the on thats in here [14:46] it just cant see anything linux, no mac, no ips, nothing, so i cant register them [14:46] its really weird [14:46] because dhcp will issue ip addresss [14:46] but i cannot see the machines, it just says unknown conncted on ip.address [14:47] and dhcp loves to switch them around a lot [14:47] so i just go static and it never gives me problems [14:47] K, can you run /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 as root? [14:47] but on dhcp, ssh is a guessing game, and I ssh a lot [14:47] adrien: it's the next big thing on my todo list. ffmpeg and vbox had priority :) [14:47] KaMii: DHCP is a protocol. don't blame protocol for a lousy implementation [14:47] pprkut: good luck ;-) [14:47] i did that already arfon [14:47] it's your router's fault [14:47] adrien: thanks! :D [14:48] ya, i know, my router is a joke [14:48] It's my fault. In California, however, I would blame San Andreas. [14:48] seriously i need a better one [14:48] Okay, those should have worked... IF you really did set it up as static and that didn't work, get 'all windoz' on it's @$$. Reboot the box [14:48] but now i just need to, maybe turn off dhcpd [14:48] and then static only [14:48] Nigromante (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [14:49] well if i kill dhcpd then static should still work right? [14:49] What do you mean 'kill the dhcp'? [14:49] well isnt the dhcpd what controls dhcp [14:49] so if I stop that module [14:50] hi [14:50] then it has to run on static right> [14:50] If you set the interface as static using netconfig, dhcp shouldn't run on tht interface [14:50] dhcpcd is the client [14:50] but the service was already started, so isnt it still backgrounded? [14:50] I wouldn't just kill a module K [14:50] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-206-155.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:50] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-206-155.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:51] no like i wanted the stop command on that module [14:51] Are you SURE you changed eth0 to static and not eth0:1 or something? [14:51] i think thats how i had it setup before [14:51] yes [14:51] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-242-235.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:51] ifconfig shows the new static ip [14:51] chance22 (~chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:51] but im not connected to that ip [14:51] I'd do a reboot [14:51] im on the dhcp ip [14:51] Your hardware is weird K [14:51] no, i dont need to reboot [14:52] meh, i will just stop dhcpd [14:52] and remove it from boot parms [14:52] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-205-153.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:52] Have fun [14:53] Action: arfon waits for the mushroom cloud over Sweden [14:53] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:53] pastebin your rc.inet.conf [14:53] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-205-153.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] I love this wierd distro :X [14:55] Yu running ubuntu Sickn3ss? [14:56] no [14:56] Slackware [14:56] :)) [14:57] Nick change: nixchix0R -> nix_chix0r [14:57] /n [14:57] You said weird so, I assumed you meant weird and not AWESOME [14:59] :X GODLIKE [14:59] ubuntu is boring ... :| [14:59] Does anyone know of a minimalistic X clipboard daemon? I basically want to be able to copy/paste across different applications (urxvt, firefox, evince) without the whole select and press third button shebang. [15:00] jeeeeze [15:00] this is the qemu line what will install a Centos virtual machine [15:00] qemu-system-x86_64 -drive cache=writeback,file=CentOS-5.5-x86_64.img,if=virtio,boot=on -net nic,model=virtio -net tap,script=/etc/qemu-ifup -m 256 -boot d -cdrom iso/CentOS-5.5-x86_64-netinstall.iso -vga ncurses [15:00] gezley (~gezley@86-42-210-198-dynamic.b-ras1.cld.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [15:01] eat your heart out vmware :P [15:01] Heh [15:02] Yes but, what's the line to install Slackware? [15:02] my host is slackware [15:02] es but, what's the line to install Slackware? [15:02] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [15:04] Action: rirombo can just picture arfon running three Slackware VMs on his Slackware computer [15:04] what happened, dhclient is now giving me a errors for every command i ussue to it [15:04] see why i hate dhcp [15:05] Wiren (~skg@64.20.169.162) left irc: [15:05] Rirombo, THAT'S what I want to do. :) I wanna play with server configs on VM before putting them on a box. :) [15:06] ph|ber (~cking@c-75-66-7-36.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:06] forget it, three finger salute [15:07] Oh, NOW you listen to me :P [15:10] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:11] nebulae_ (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) joined ##slackware. [15:12] oops, it didnt log me out when my router rebooted [15:12] it happens [15:12] Action: nebulae_ waits for KaMii to be kicked so i can log back in with that name [15:13] ghost [15:13] mhm [15:13] i know how to do it now [15:13] haha forgot a ways back [15:13] it will time out [15:13] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [15:14] neBu (1000@89.114.10.206) joined ##slackware. [15:14] Is there any way to rebind middle-click in X, maybe? [15:15] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:15] Nick change: nebulae_ -> KaMii [15:15] Roin (~florian@p5B2BB71D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [15:15] im back [15:19] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [15:22] Nigromante (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:22] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-242-235.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:24] i think its time for tea, xfiles and sleep [15:26] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FBF3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [15:32] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.225.255) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [15:35] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625222733] [15:35] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:37] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.158.167) joined ##slackware. [15:37] dgc_ (~dgc_@200.17.141.87) joined ##slackware. [15:38] why is slackware 13.1 missing: [15:38] bash: /usr/sbin/tunctl: No such file or directory [15:38] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-242-235.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:38] |Slacker| (~cris@189.26.12.51.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:38] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-242-235.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:38] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] why don't I have $20 [15:41] because you spent it? [15:42] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [15:42] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:43] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Client Quit [15:45] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [15:45] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] dustybin, have you installed uml-tools? [15:47] nope [15:48] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=tunctl&sv=13.1 [15:48] :D [15:48] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:48] tawfiq (~tawfiq@41.140.12.211) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:49] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:51] Nick change: fire|bird -> evil|bird [15:51] anybody know how to create a network bridge on slackware? [15:52] dualshoott (~dualshoot@unaffiliated/dualshoott) joined ##slackware. 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[15:59] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-201-89.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:59] dustybin: brctl [16:00] aye thanks [16:01] pprkut: if you make an updated slackbuild for nvidia within the next three weeks, can you /msg me? [16:01] fxer (~fxer@c80-216-211-114.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:01] sure [16:02] Does anyone have experience finding LVM2 logical volume locations? [16:02] I accidentally ran pvcreate on my PV partition /dev/sda2 [16:02] also, here are my minimal power measurements for no driver, nvidia and nouveau: no driver/console was 28.5W (maybe lower actually, I gave up immediately), then nouveau took as little as 20.5W (not always reproducible) and nvidia in X took at little as 16.5W [16:03] also, nvidia in console saves *NO* power *WHATSOEVER* [16:03] only in X [16:03] btw, I tweaked nvidia's xorg.conf which gave me savings up to 2 or 3 watts [16:03] pprkut: thanks :-) [16:04] can you post that tweaked xorg.conf somewhere? :) [16:05] slappyCruzer (~slappyCru@5e0982a2.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [16:06] pprkut: in section Device, add: Option "RegistryDwords" "PowerMizerEnable=0x1; PowerMizerLevel=0x3; PowerMizerDefault=0x3; EnableCoreSlowdown=0x1; EnableNVClkSlowdown=0x1; EnableMClkSlowdown=0x1" [16:06] some may be useless but they don't seem to hurt [16:06] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:06] basically, nvidia remained at higher power levels when on battery [16:06] (and yes, it's a single line) [16:06] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] interesting, thanks! :) [16:07] dgc_ (~dgc_@200.17.141.87) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:08] alienBOB: so um, remember how we were talking about vim the other day and I was saying how it counts at 0 index, so to grab 5 lines, I'd choose 4, and everyone said I was wrong and I couldn't reproduce it? I just did :y8 and it grabbed 9 lines! [16:08] alienBOB: oh wait.. :y8 grabs 8, but y8 grabs 9 [16:09] can bridged networking be setup inside: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf ? [16:09] so, overall, nvidia gave me 30 minutes of additional battery life, I actually didn't expect nouveau to save any power, so I'm actually quite happy =) [16:11] (btw, that was with minimal brightness, minimal cpu usage (only openbox, nothing running), most services disabled... [16:11] Hi Eric/alienBob, [16:11] tpocra: pvcreate shouldn't let you run on an existing PV [16:11] tpocra: however, you should look at /etc/lvm/backup and 'vgcfgrestore' command [16:11] ananke: I looked at this, I need to use it [16:12] But my / partition is on an AES encrypted Logical Volume [16:12] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-63-4.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:12] I am using slackware since last 6 months and so, I also use couple of packages built by you .. just want to thank you for your great efforts.. [16:12] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:12] I need to find where the LV starts to try and decrypt and mount it so I can get /etc/lvm/backup stuff [16:14] slappyCruzer (~slappyCru@5e0982a2.bb.sky.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:14] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:14] i need to create a /etc/rc.d/rc.bridge [16:14] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-4-121.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:15] SpartanVI (~spartan@adsl-176-4-121.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:17] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [16:17] DURgod (~DURgod@75-128-142-59.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:23] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420255.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:23] fonseg_ (~fonseg@58.187.72.8) joined ##slackware. [16:23] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420255.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:24] Grrr... I can't seem to get syndaemon to work. It reports that it's disabling the touchpad when I press keys on the keyboard, but it doesn't actually disable it :| [16:26] fxer (~fxer@c-6c00e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:26] shared memory with X? [16:26] fonseg (~fonseg@58.187.17.226) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:28] rodrigo_golive (~rodrigo_g@nat/mandriva/x-wduqascolglspadn) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:28] What do you mean? [16:29] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:31] i got locked out of my box by messing around with brctl [16:31] eeek [16:31] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-63-4.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:32] dustybin: IT'S A VIRUS! [16:32] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:33] raela: yanking n lines is "nyy". But "yn" followed by arrow-up -r arrow-down yanks the current line plus the 'n' lines above / or below [16:33] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:33] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [16:33] alienBOB: I didn't touch the arrows. I did y8 and it yanked 9 [16:33] alienBOB: likewise, :y8 grabs 8 [16:34] Those are two different commands [16:34] vi is like magic. That is why no one likes emacs. [16:34] yeah well adrien is telling me I'm totally wrong and was wrong the other morning when I thought one of them did it, which they apparently do :/ [16:36] What is notepad.exe like? [16:36] tekzilla (~jon@d156106.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:38] tekzilla (~jon@d166062.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. 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[16:41] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-27-242-235.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:41] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [16:43] Action: pupit slaps arfon [16:44] adrien: where did you get the info about nvidia power tweaking, im interested although i have an ati card [16:44] neBu (1000@89.114.10.206) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [16:44] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:44] pupit: google :P [16:45] :P [16:45] i thought it was some serious-heavy googling not just google :) [16:46] :) [16:47] g4tsu (~g4tsu@ALyon-153-1-104-221.w109-212.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: https://linuxspirit.fr [16:47] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [16:47] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:48] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [16:49] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:51] sickn3ss (~sickn3ss@89.123.134.236) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:52] pupit: no, you load google.com and it's displayed right away :P [16:52] pupit: or: "powermizer xorg.conf" [16:53] adrien: bless you for sharing this magic to us :) [16:53] ^ ^ [16:53] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:54] on se croirait sous Linux, j'ai eu 2 mises à jour INFRUCTUEUSES [16:55] oups sorry [16:55] xD [16:55] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-020-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [16:56] FAIL [16:57] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:58] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [17:00] fxer (~fxer@c-6c00e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [17:00] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:01] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:03] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) left irc: Quit: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer [17:04] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [17:05] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [17:06] chris_scummette (~chris_scu@ABordeaux-551-1-63-4.w92-149.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:08] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-238.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:11] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [17:13] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-85-202.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:13] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [17:13] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FBF3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:13] I find your lack of chat distrubing. [17:14] distUrbing [17:14] we're all in ##slackware-without-arfon :-) [17:14] fonseg_ (~fonseg@58.187.72.8) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:14] awww [17:15] I treid to get in there but I was banned :( [17:15] yup :-) [17:15] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:16] its for your own protection [17:16] Well, I would start ##Slackware_with_only_arfon but I seem to have it here... [17:16] fonseg (~fonseg@58.187.97.201) joined ##slackware. [17:16] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.94.149) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:16] My protection? You guys trying on condoms or something in that channel? [17:17] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:17] no, if we told you, we'd have to kill you [17:17] Teratogen (leontopod@unaffiliated/teratogen) joined ##slackware. [17:17] Oh, by allmeans DON'T tell me then. [17:18] I hear dying sux [17:18] maybe, no one seems to come back to complain tho [17:19] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:19] That's not what I hear on Coast-to-coast with Art Bell [17:20] damn, haven't had time to make my kvm-kernel.config =/ [17:20] Mowah (~tree@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:20] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [17:20] i cannot get the slackbuild for gnome-python to build [17:20] i've been keeping track of their predictions, so far they're 0 for everything [17:20] Apparently, a lot of people come back (after the aliens are done with them). [17:20] it says: Compilation and installation finished successfully [17:20] but it wasnt [17:21] Sounds like a bad predictions Dusty, make a tick Sky [17:21] the jet stream was supposed to come down wipe us off the planet by now [17:21] do you have gnome, dustybin? [17:22] Ooo, that's a good-n Sky, how was that supposed to happen? [17:23] raela: nope, i use xfce, i require gnome-python for virt-manager [17:23] it was global warming and sun spots i think [17:23] Ah... [17:24] Sun spots are a favorite of the doomsday crowd [17:24] Like rogue asteroids [17:24] Action: arfon checks the sky for rogue asteroids [17:24] We're still safe so far [17:25] i am using sbopkg to install gnome-python [17:25] at the end, it says check log for errors [17:25] don't worry, they're out there sneaking around ready to pounce on us when we're not looking [17:25] where would the log be? [17:25] If I have two NICs connected to the same router, is it possible to switch my active connections from one to the other? [17:25] dustybin: you could download the slackbuild manually and see if it chokes [17:26] namely to switch from a wired connection to wireless [17:26] aye good idea [17:27] I'm curious if the routing will automatically failover [17:28] thats why you assign a priority to a gateway [17:28] rirombo (~rirombo@h113.187.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:28] Skywise: well, i was just going to kill the ethernet connection and hope it switches over [17:28] it doesn't work in windows [17:28] zaltekk: it's possible to do, but it won't happen if you don't set it up that way [17:28] no, windows doesn't failover correctly [17:28] mako-sama: and what shall i do to have it happen? [17:29] and it can randomly switch over and it breaks things [17:29] zaltekk, I think you have to udpate your route [17:29] change the default route? [17:30] or lower the metric? [17:31] Yes, you need to update route because the default gw goes out a particular interface [17:31] it also looks like wicd doesn't like me using wireless and wired connection at the same time [17:31] zaltekk: you can just setup a backup route [17:31] google it [17:31] wicd shouldn't care.... [17:31] arfon: okay, so change the default gateway while both are connected [17:31] arfon: i think that if i connect to the wireless connection wicd kills the wired connection [17:32] zaltekk: i've never done it before, but I've read docs here and there, that's why i conclude that it can be done :P [17:32] this is the problem: http://paste.debian.net/81175/plain/81175 [17:32] zaltekk, I don't want to answer that because I don't know for sure [17:32] I do know that you need to change route because route sets with interface gets default gw [17:33] if both are active i'll have two routes that are basically identical. just a different device [17:33] so i can change the default gateway to the other device [17:33] then sever the connection [17:34] i think the only problem now is to get wicd to connect to the wireless connection without stopping eth0 [17:34] ah... you're talking about wireless and wired? [17:34] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.153.148) joined ##slackware. [17:34] stop wicd [17:34] i wish virt-manager didnt have so many crappy deps :( [17:35] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-204-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] zaltekk: wicd allows only one active connection. It'll disconnect your wired connection if you connect to a wireless one [17:36] fxer (~fxer@c-6c00e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:36] dustybin: apparently that software wants a large part of Gnome to be installed first [17:37] mako-sama: yes. i want to switch my laptop from eth0 to wlan0 so i can remove it from my desk without losing all of my active connections [17:37] i wonder if i can hide eth0 from wicd [17:38] alienBOB: eeek [17:38] zaltekk: you will not lose your active connections [17:38] alienBOB: i do if i switch with wicd [17:38] I don't have that problem [17:38] =/ [17:38] i just tried it and my ssh connection timed out [17:38] downloads stopped [17:39] Yeah I guess it depends on the speed of re-association and re-connection [17:39] the apartment complex's provided cable modem/wireless router combo really sucks [17:39] i move out in two weeks though [17:39] Zaltekk, does your wireless work with wicd? [17:40] bunnyboi (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-19-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: IRC is just multiplayer notepad [17:40] arfon: yes [17:40] is it encrypted? [17:40] wpa2 [17:40] I ask because wicd will happily CONNECT to the wireless even if it doesn't have a key [17:40] You just can pass data [17:41] can't [17:41] the wireless connect is fine. [17:41] You get an IP? [17:41] You can ping the wireless gateway? [17:41] i'm using it to ssh to the irssi session i am using right now [17:41] Action: arfon doesn't understand the problem them? [17:42] then. [17:42] switching between a wired and wireless connection and having my connection not drop [17:42] You can't do that [17:42] so i don't have to ssh back into things, restart my torrents, etc [17:42] hmmm do i really need virt-manager.. [17:42] it will always drop because your local interface ip changes [17:43] artv61 (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:43] arfon: not all networks are setup that way [17:43] i don't think that will matter [17:43] even if it did, i can keep the same ip easily [17:43] the one I have at home certainly isn't [17:43] How? [17:43] dhcp hostname [17:43] zaltekk: the gateway's IP is the same for both the wired and wireless connections? [17:43] Youe wlan0 ip will be X and your eth0 ip will be Y [17:44] mako-sama: yes [17:44] great.. then it can be done without problems [17:44] arfon: nothing on the internet sees that [17:44] it just sees my external ip [17:44] when you've connected via IP X and then switch to IP Y, you break connections [17:44] Sure it sees it via NAT [17:44] no... [17:44] the internet doesn't see my local ips [17:45] if i change the default gateway to go through a different device, i'll still receive the last few incoming packets on the other device [17:45] then i disable that other device [17:45] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [17:46] Okay, let's say for a moment that "the internet doesn't see your IPs".... the moment you switch from X to Y, your router won't pass the X's data to Y correctly [17:46] i think i just need to take wicd out of the equation [17:46] wicd doesn't matter [17:46] arfon: yes. but when I start sending from Y instead of X, it will start sending to Y instead of X [17:46] But your irssi connections and what nots all started from X [17:47] the router doesn't know the connection states [17:47] it just passes the packets [17:47] when it sees packets coming from Y instead, it will send there instead [17:47] I'm not sure what to tell you then... [17:48] arfon: any good router will be able to cope with the change without any problems [17:48] the problem now is that i am using wicd which terminates the ethernet connection before it tries to associate with the wireless connection [17:48] so i need to do it manually to stop that from happening [17:48] so i don't sit here without any connection at all for 10 seconds or so [17:48] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Client Quit [17:48] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:49] Again, I don't know what to tell you... [17:49] i already know what to do now [17:49] At home, I'm running parallel DSL connections with a zeroshell router [17:49] i won't have parallel connections [17:50] that's the point [17:50] i am just changing which device it goes to the same router from [17:50] and I had all sorts of greif with changing IPs. [17:50] the servers i am connected to won't see anything [17:50] they'll just see the network's external IP, which doesn't change [17:51] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:51] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [17:51] i'm going to setup wpa-supplicant to test it, and after making sure it works, i'll see if i can modify wicd to not kill my wired connection [17:52] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7FBF3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:52] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:53] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:54] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:54] hba (~hba@189.130.54.72) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:55] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. 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Have a good night [18:01] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420255.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:03] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-10-159.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420255.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:05] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:05] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:06] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:09] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [18:10] VampX (~VampX@201.218.68.99) joined ##slackware. [18:12] asarch (~asarch@189.188.160.229) joined ##slackware. [18:12] What is the name of the linux source files package for the linux-2.6.33.4? [18:12] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:14] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:14] am0rphis (~qwe@79.124.244.72) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:15] am0rphis (~qwe@91.145.225.145) joined ##slackware. [18:15] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:16] fxer (~fxer@c-6c00e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [18:17] asarch: kernel-source- [18:18] ./source/k/linux-2.6.33.4.tar.xz [18:18] ? [18:18] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:19] got it working [18:19] gnome-python was missing some deps [18:20] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [18:20] asarch: you want the package or the source for the default system ? [18:20] s/package/slackpackage/ [18:21] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:21] The source file of the current kernel: vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.33.4-smp [18:21] ./source/k/linux- is the version without patchs, it's vanilla [18:21] if you want the slackpkg go in http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.1/slackware/k/ [18:22] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-183.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] I am getting: ftp://ftp.cerias.purdue.edu/pub/os/slackware/slackware-13.1/source/k/linux-2.6.33.4.tar.xz [18:23] yeah that's the sources, but there's a package of it (with the patchs etc) in ./slackware/k/ [18:23] named kernel-source- [18:23] asarch: the archive you're getting is vanilla, look in that folder to get the patches too, if you want to apply them [18:24] Thank you very much illovae [18:24] I will [18:24] well actually there's no patch for 13.1 :] [18:24] anyone know whats spanish for the knight in chess? [18:25] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:25] asarch: but get the config-* btw [18:25] darkwurm (~darkwurm@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [18:26] conquistadore ? equila ? (it's "horse" in dutch...) [18:26] you have the weirdest slackware questions [18:27] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] caballero ? [18:27] greetings and salutations [18:27] hi andarius [18:27] salutations illovae [18:27] lol...."caballero" is a motorcycle [18:27] from "fantic motors" [18:27] eheh [18:28] you now know that it means knigh in spanish :p [18:28] yep [18:30] i just heard a commerical about a sports caster describing a chess match and he said caballero, and i thought cowboy was a funny name for knight [18:30] choppernator (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [18:30] Skywise: the one with the soccer announcer? 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[19:11] Which one is the source code for vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.33.4-smp? http://slackware.pastebin.ca/1906323 [19:12] Action: asarch is very confused [19:18] kernel source for 13.1 --> ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-13.1/source/k/ [19:18] this is it media/SlackDVD/source/k/linux-2.6.33.4.tar.xz [19:18] and what andarius said too :p [19:19] Action: andarius figured the dir would be best, due to the README ;) [19:20] mac-mini1 (~mac-mini@unaffiliated/macmini/x-648924) joined ##slackware. [19:20] hehe it all works :) [19:20] mac-mini1 (~mac-mini@unaffiliated/macmini/x-648924) left irc: Excess Flood [19:20] mac-mini1 (~mac-mini@unaffiliated/macmini/x-648924) joined ##slackware. [19:21] mac-mini1 (~mac-mini@unaffiliated/macmini/x-648924) left irc: Excess Flood [19:21] shell-lord (~shell-lor@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] mac-mini1 (~mac-mini@unaffiliated/macmini/x-648924) joined ##slackware. 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[19:23] mac-mini1 (~mac-mini@unaffiliated/macmini/x-648924) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [19:23] briareus: #sbopkg [19:23] sahko: tried already [19:23] sahko: asleep [19:24] i dont , but ask away [19:24] I'm being a bit confused by this sbopkg download. from the download page at sbopkg.org it states that you can installpkg like any other tgz, but the download is in .gz format, and when I untar it as root it seems to go into several directories and I can't find a .tgz anywhere [19:24] zaythan (~zaythan@ip68-1-71-150.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:24] damn [19:25] briareus, you have to build the package first [19:25] briareus: yes it automatically installpkg, but you have to compil it first [19:25] arf too late [19:25] briareus: get http://sbopkg.googlecode.com/files/sbopkg-0.33.2-noarch-1_cng.tgz and installpkg it [19:25] MrJackson: in the dirs created during untar, there is no ./configure or makefile [19:25] ffs [19:26] briareus, you don't extract that package [19:26] no need for rudeness [19:26] its a tgz [19:26] marienz_ (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) joined ##slackware. [19:26] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:27] sahko: at the sbopkg it is not, thanks for the help [19:27] does it work? [19:27] I don't know yet, I'm trying to copy/paste in tty from here to links [19:27] briareus, http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [19:28] MrJackson: I know how to build packages, but the noarch.gz from sbopkg was unwrapping in a different way than I am used to [19:28] I do appreciate the help MrJackson :) [19:28] It is the very same at /usr/src/inux-2.6.33.4 [19:28] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:28] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [19:28] I wonder why WMWare installer cannot use that source code to build the modules [19:28] marienz (~marienz@freenode/staff/marienz) left irc: Ping timeout: 620 seconds [19:29] Gimped (~Gimped@c-98-248-193-199.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.33.42) joined ##slackware. [19:30] so, I went to that link that sahko mentioned, and it too downloads as a .gz, despite the url [19:32] alan` (alan@rrcs-67-52-47-64.west.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:33] Action: andarius gets a .tgz [19:33] Kevin` (~kevin@rrcs-67-52-47-69.west.biz.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:33] dcauter (dcauter@unaffiliated/dcauter) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:33] Nick change: marienz_ -> marienz [19:34] 2010-07-22 18:31:02 (79.3 KB/s) - "sbopkg-0.33.2-noarch-1_cng.tgz" saved [88243/88243] [19:34] briareus, using wget? [19:34] 2010-07-22 19:31:39 (805 KB/s) - `sbopkg-0.33.2-noarch-1_cng.tgz' saved [88243/88243] :o [19:34] showoff! [19:34] :P [19:35] Action: andarius got a .tgz with wget and firefox [19:35] WTF, when I download it either from sbopkg.org or via that link, I get a .gz [19:35] I'm not lying here, I am looking right now at the link and its asking me to verify download, and its a noarch.1_cng.gz [19:35] I don't understand. [19:35] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.22.254) joined ##slackware. [19:36] ok, with wget I got the tgz [19:36] OHS [19:36] with firefox, chrome, I get a .gz [19:36] your browser is decoding the tar [19:36] I don't understand why that is [19:36] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4419, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-04 01:07:21 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [19:37] shell-lord (~shell-lor@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: shell-lord [19:37] MrJackson: but that means I can't make it correctly, right? (when I untar the gz there was no make or build files evident) [19:37] strange. [19:37] shell-fu (~shell-fu@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:37] it's like the browsers are too helpful. [19:37] I would not call that helpful in any way [19:38] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-183.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [19:39] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:40] great, now I have a new problem. sbopkg (that new version) fails to run, saying it needs MKDIR_PROMPT specified in sbopkg.conf, but when I edit sbopkg.conf, there is no MKDIR_PROMPT in the entire file. [19:40] wtf [19:40] alan` (~alan@CPE-24-209-190-7.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:40] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@CPE-24-209-190-7.wi.res.rr.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:40] alan` kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: idiot [19:40] nyRednek (~nyrednek@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[20:27] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [20:29] rock\ (~rock@76.191.115.137) joined ##slackware. [20:29] hello all [20:29] jgeboski (~jgeboski@97.72.86.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:29] i just installed slack minimal system [20:29] i have a very interesting question :) [20:29] (google didnt help me) [20:30] so, ask :> [20:30] i wanted to install visudo [20:30] BUT [20:30] no wget [20:30] stop pushing enter, and type your question on one line [20:30] rock\: at that rate, your enter key won't work tomorrow. [20:30] how can i download wget or install visudo ? [20:30] rock\, do you have curl? [20:31] no curl [20:31] alkos333 (1000@c-67-162-30-94.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] rock\: lynx? ftp? [20:31] lftp ? [20:31] no lynx but ftp [20:31] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:32] what if wget is on a http serv ? [20:32] rock\: then find ftp mirror [20:32] ok [20:32] rsync might be a good choice too [20:33] no rsync, just nothing but ssh to transfert [20:33] i'm guessing you left out most of n/ though [20:34] sahko (~sahko@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [20:35] nc? [20:36] down1nut (~mike@c-76-122-153-255.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:36] daaaaaaooooh' make command not found [20:36] rock\: of course. what were you expecting with a minimal install? [20:36] rock\, what was your purpose here? [20:37] rock\: download wget package for slackware, not some source ball [20:37] my web host only provides minimal version of slackware [20:37] rock\, you don't need make for a package from a slackware mirror [20:38] ok i'll find a slackware package [20:38] evil|dive: i needed make for wicd ;) [20:39] ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net [20:39] pupit, how'd you manage that? wicd is a python app [20:40] thank you [20:40] rock\, wget is in /pub/slackware/slackware-13.1/slackware/n/ [20:40] thrice`: to be honest i dont know, i tried that "minimal" install as rock\ did an voila... after that i installed all execpt KDEI, t, tcl, games, howtos and it was all fine [20:41] thrice`: maybe i left out the D section entirely :S [20:41] pupit, I mean, you said "I needed make for wicd", which isn't true :p probably python [20:41] txz files ? [20:41] thrice`: yeah, python then, its in D [20:41] yep [20:41] rock\, yes [20:41] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [20:41] Hi. [20:41] with installpkg command ? [20:42] rock\, yes [20:42] wget-1.12-i486-1.txz [20:42] So question. When I installed 13.1 I forgot to setup network (I basically hit no). Now it's darkstar, how can I change that? [20:42] Cannot install wget-1.12-i486-1.txz: package does not end in .tgz [20:42] riza: as root, run netconfig. [20:42] rock\, er which version slackware [20:42] riza, it's your HOSTNAME, but you can run through "netconfig" again [20:42] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [20:42] is it hard/worth-it to upgrade from 13.0 ? [20:43] briareus, yes it's worth it unless you never plan to upgrade [20:43] 12.0 [20:43] evil|dive: was it hard? [20:43] nothing wrong with 13.0 for a few years yet [20:43] not hard, and 'depends' on if it's worth it. for a desktop or laptop, yes [20:43] my sister is on vacation in Greece, so im installing slack on her machine = im tired of: is this a virus? what can i click and open?... etc [20:43] oops [20:43] rock\, then change that path to slackware-12.0 [20:43] i was in slackware-current [20:44] sorry [20:44] evil|dive: ok, I'm on 13.0 now so I'm fine [20:44] rock\, no, the new package formats won't work in 12.0 [20:45] iPerl (~cfy@122.87.168.156) joined ##slackware. [20:45] BP{k}, thrice` thanks! [20:45] rocks, it works [20:45] briareus, I did an upgrade using slackpkg last night. Took around 30 mins. Very easy if you follow the instructions, upgrade.txt etc [20:45] thank you [20:45] rock\, no problem [20:45] slackware updates are quite easy these days :> [20:46] do you know where i can find build essentials package ? [20:46] briareus, and be sure to read this: http://rlworkman.net/howtos/libata-switchover [20:46] if it exists [20:46] rock\, all the build stuff is in d/ [20:46] rock\, there isn't an equivilant, but the d/ series [20:46] ok [20:46] thanks evil|dive [20:46] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:46] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:46] It's still darkstar, nooo. I guess I have to reboot? [20:47] riza, or hack /etc/HOSTNAME on your own [20:47] riza, you can use hostname command too [20:47] and also what thrice` said [20:47] i think i will be long and funny :) [20:47] pilipo (~pilipo@203.177.147.86) joined ##slackware. [20:48] riza, but if you change hostname you will need to restart some services like sendmail [20:49] you need to restart init too [20:49] (well actually sendmail is the only one that I've had hostname problems with) [20:49] Hm. [20:49] iow, reboot [20:49] No no, rebooting should solve this, no? [20:49] yeah would be easier [20:49] yes [20:49] rob0: telinit q wouldn't work? [20:49] BP{k}: I never tried, not sure [20:50] anyone still using swaret here? [20:50] never have, never been tempted, never will. [20:50] Action: riza dances. [20:50] 13.1 is amazing. Absolutely amazing. [20:50] I don't know if telinit q would reflect hostname change according to the manpage it just reloads inittab [20:51] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [20:51] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:51] maybe telinit u [20:52] guessing now though [20:52] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [20:52] shell-fu (~shell-fu@adsl-99-30-144-105.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] well afaik .. edit /etc/HOSTNAME run /bin/hostname newhost .. then log out everything and log back in .. but mehg .. reboot the damn thing :) [20:55] yeah I seem to recall last time I changed hostname, I used /bin/hostname /etc/HOSTNAME, restart sendmail, log out, log in [20:55] as far as I recall anyway [20:55] zaythan (~zaythan@ip68-1-71-150.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:55] has anyone seen eviljames ? [20:55] i think he's MIA [20:56] oh yeah and edit /etc/hosts [20:56] jeev, he's got a load of real life stuff going on [20:56] raela: was just glancing back in my buffer. Enter in command mode moves you down a line in vim. so it's just like pressing j or the down arrow. [20:56] thanks a lot for you help, cya [20:56] rock\ (~rock@76.191.115.137) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.5/20100504124919] [20:56] ok [20:57] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Quit: Reconnecting [20:58] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:58] ut: ahhh okay [20:59] rirombo (~rirombo@h113.187.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] fxer (~fxer@c-6c00e255.165-500-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:59] Nick change: evil|nix_chix0r -> nix_chix0r [21:00] Nick change: evil|dive -> dive [21:01] iPerl (~cfy@122.87.168.156) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:01] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.153.148) left irc: Quit: figabo has no reason [21:02] crunchpotato (~cold@180.186.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:02] iPerl (~cfy@122.87.168.156) joined ##slackware. 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[21:25] holy crap, i haven't logged into here since may 31 [21:26] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:26] can someone help me with a somewhat slackware related issue regarding mail servers? [21:28] slackie_ (~x@bl4-86-132.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:28] ask your question if someone knows, they might speak up [21:29] well, I have sendmail running on slack 13.1, I loosely followed this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/sendmail-smtp-auth-howto-224543/page11.html [21:30] now i can access my smtp server on my lan, but not from the www. i have all the correct ports forwarded on my router, just no go. i think it's something with my config [21:31] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:31] sorry, link puts you at page 11 [21:33] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:34] when i run tail -f /var/log/maillog, i get this from outside lan: http://pastebin.com/NWUcaVrw [21:34] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [21:34] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:59] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:06] zaythan (~zaythan@ip68-1-71-150.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] stu_ (~stuart@175.144.255.8) joined ##slackware. [22:08] is there a way i can d/l the first 3 discs and make it into a single DVD .iso? [22:08] cos i don't wanna d/l the DVD version with the extra stuff i won't use [22:08] evening shonudo [22:08] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:10] stu_: i'm guessing it's possible [22:11] nyRednek, any idea how? [22:11] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:11] stu_: the same way you'd make any iso [22:11] stu_: 1) download them 2) mount each disk and copy the contents 3) make a new dvd from that tree [22:13] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:14] okay so i download those three, mount -t loop, copy all 3 into a directory, and dd the directory into an .iso? [22:15] stu_: don't forget the bootable image [22:15] manwichmakeameal: what is your ISP? [22:15] nyRednek, how do i do that? [22:15] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [22:16] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.153.148) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:16] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.72) joined ##slackware. [22:16] stu_: the dox will tell you [22:17] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:17] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-70-18-157-112.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] heya,folks [22:17] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:17] salutations MLanden [22:17] greetings andarius [22:18] evening :) [22:18] evening zaythan [22:18] nyRednek, which docs [22:18] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:19] stu_: i'm *not* gonna hold your hand on this one... [22:19] andarius: still raining for y'all? [22:19] stu_: if you're unwilling to look for the answer, then apply what you find, download the dvd [22:20] i have no problems reading manpages or searching google but what exactly do i need to read up on to make an .iso bootable? [22:20] stu_: here's a small hint: read the docs in the isolinux/ directory [22:20] ok thanks [22:20] MLanden: no sir, was not too bad here today all day [22:22] andarius: ok..been a mixed bag up here in VA as well over the week [22:22] bgeddy (~bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:22] figabo (~MacOSX@201.164.153.148) joined ##slackware. [22:23] we did have a good storm blow through yesterday, but it was really short. only light cloud cover today. I like a good storm :) [22:24] oh so i don't need to dd if=/mydir of=new.iso? i just copy all 3 disks into a directory and follow /isolinux's readme? (mkisofs -o) [22:24] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:24] the readme pretty clearly outlines how to make the CDs and DVD [22:24] andarius: true..same here [22:26] jgeboski (~jgeboski@97.72.86.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:29] storms are the best to sleep to [22:29] something about lightning is very soothing [22:29] zaythan: nay good sir. The best background noise is that of cherry mx switches being ever so elegantly caressed [22:30] rirombo (~rirombo@h113.187.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [22:31] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:31] its a keyboard?? [22:32] zaythan: yes :P cherry mx switches are featured on a multitude of mech-switched keyboards like Das Keyboard, Steelseries and Filco [22:34] wow haha never heard of them....i know of das and steelseries but never heard of the cherry mx switch part...do you know if they come in a dvorak layout?? [22:35] hmmmdassskeyboard.. [22:35] RaNdY (randy@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:35] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.48.28) joined ##slackware. [22:36] zaythan: not by default. But the Das Keyboard as well as variants of the keyboards manufactured by Filco come with blank key caps - so that might be one way to go. The other way might be to re-arrange the caps to form a dvorak layout.. I don't know if that'll work for you (no idea where dvorak places symbols and such compared to say, a US layout).. And I know the the F and J keys (representing the "home" keys on QWERTY) are shaped a [22:37] personally.. I think I'm going to order a new Day Keyboard with blank caps.. I've seem to finally come to know where all symbols are.. When you can program reliantly for 4-5 hrs without stopping to hit random keys looking to find a symbol, you're ready for blank keys ^^ Be cautious of the blank key thing, I thought it would be ok a year back, but I only knew the location of the letters, NOT the symbols, turned out to be very annoying [22:39] well most keyboards rock keys that are generally the same shape so you can switch them around the main problem is the fact that the F and J keys usually have some type of nub on them so when u move them around it gets irriating and of course they dont sell dvorak default in america [22:39] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-204-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:39] alkos333 (1000@c-67-162-30-94.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:39] so i am stuck w/ my g15 and 2 funny feeling buttons :) [22:40] nachox (~Ignacio@59-40-235-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:40] zaythan: yea, the das keyboard feature the F and J keys with a different shape entirely.. Its sort of more hollowed. ... Using a G11 right now for backup too, but.. the mech keyboards are *so* much better! ... Although, try some of them.. especially, you need to be aware that the cherry mx switches come in 3 varieties. brown, black and blue [22:41] daskeyboard II uses blue iirc. [22:41] BP{k} exactly [22:41] pseudonymous: but wouldn't know what the differences are between them ;). [22:42] my favourite kind ^^.. The blue ones are great since you get resistance until the keypress is registered, after that, no further resistance is offered AND you get a clicky sound telling you it's registered.. Blacks require more force to press throughout the keypress and aren't clicky.. Great for gaming, kinda hard for typing. [22:42] http://elitekeyboards.com/support.php?lang=en#1a is a FAQ on it [22:45] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.35.65) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:45] from reading the FAQ i think id like the brown myself [22:47] well.. so did I.. but .. I have a black and blue one already.. And the main problem with the black one (apart from a bit more force required *and* the constant force issue) is the lack of a click sound, this makes me press the key all the way down which takes *significantly* more force than just pressing it lightly. Problem is, without the clicky sound I don't have a feel for how much I must press the key down for it to register... T [22:47] bernie_ (~bernie@c-98-237-112-144.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:49] anyone care to suggest a motherboard for a home backup server/ [22:49] i'm thinking 6 sata ports and dual gigE is pretty much all i need, don't really care about cpu [22:49] but i prefer amd [22:50] dual gig-E for a home server? where do you live :| [22:50] andarius: maybe he has a 1g LAN and wants it to act as a router as well ? But yea, 1gig for the outgoing NIC is hardcore :P [22:51] sure, i'll have 1 segment for htpc and video and the other for more mundane file transfer [22:51] when I read home server, I see server. router wi=ould be a bit more [22:51] nah, it will be only exposed to my lan [22:51] 10bt can still outrun my dsl [22:51] thumbs: i work for my isp, i know we aren't blocking any ports. my previous server was working fine [22:52] manwichmakeameal, does netstat -n show anything listening on that port and interface? [22:53] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [22:53] no, but i can access it from my lan, just not from the www, or my second router on a different subnet [22:55] it's gotta be a configuration issue, i just don't know where [22:55] yes, it is a config issue [22:55] jgeboski (~jgeboski@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [22:55] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.22.254) joined ##slackware. [22:56] manwichmakeameal: maybe stupid, but.. most of the times when I have troubles like that it's because I moved the server and forgot about my Iptables rules :) I usually write rules to block requests outside of the LAN subnet [22:56] right now for testing purposes, i have no firewall rules in place [22:56] its not production yet [22:57] oh, hosts.allow/hosts.deny or similar? [22:57] its not showing up in netstat [22:57] so i think theres something with his .mc file [22:58] rbEye (~rbEye@adsl-71-134-252-102.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] nope, it's a stock install. except some changes to /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf/sendmail-slackware-tls-sasl.mc [22:59] i those changes might of had unintended consequences [22:59] hey can anyone watch the mlb video highlights from mlb.com with firefox on slackware? [23:00] but i think that sendmail listens on all interfaces by default [23:00] manwichmakeameal, are you sure sendmail is running? [23:00] the only thing i changed in my mc file was changing my LOCAL_DOMAIN to my fqdn and added this: http://pastebin.com/zDA4Ngjf [23:00] hm, where is the md5sum of slackware-13.1-install-dvd.iso? [23:00] yes, i can use my smtp server from my lan, just not outside of it [23:01] jgeboski (~jgeboski@97.72.86.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:01] can you ping the port from outside of the lan? [23:01] rbEye: have you upgraded flash? using 64bit? [23:01] jollyman (~AndChat@99.155.36.5) joined ##slackware. [23:01] Help [23:02] haven't tried that yet, don't have the ability right now. have been testing access to smtp with my phone. when i switch to my old server, it works [23:02] Is there a flash plugin for 64 bit? [23:02] try it with nmap [23:02] MLanden: i use the 32bit [23:03] switching cables that way may not produce accurate results [23:03] i did scan my public ip with nmap and port 465 is open [23:03] i would expect things to be misconfigured in one aspect [23:03] rbEye: ok...any coverage ever blacked out in your area? [23:04] MLanden: i don't know what you mean...On tv? [23:04] Having issue with libflashplugin.so from adobe in 13.1 64 [23:05] rbEye: internet [23:06] rbEye: I just can't watch the highlights on mlb.com that is all [23:07] MLanden: do you have problems watching the video highlights? [23:07] rbEye: trying right now [23:07] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.100.22.254) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:08] jollyman (~AndChat@99.155.36.5) left irc: Quit: Bye [23:08] rbEye: yeah...no problems here. [23:09] MLanden: ur on slackware using firefox right? [23:09] rbEye: right....firefox 3.6.7 and flash 10.1x [23:10] MLanden: ok [23:12] rbEye: launching from http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/ right? [23:13] MLanden: yea [23:13] jgeboski (~jgeboski@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [23:13] zaythan (~zaythan@ip68-1-71-150.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:14] zaythan (~zaythan@ip68-1-71-150.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] rbEye: ok...after watch...just stalls? black screen? [23:14] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.72) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:15] MLanden: just black screen, no blinking screen or anything. It's just a black square box. [23:16] rbEye: ok...is that on all the highlights? [23:16] MLanden: yea [23:17] MLanden: as long as I know it works for you then I'm ok with it. It's just something wrong with mine...I'll have to mess with it. Thank you for the help. later... [23:17] rbEye (rbEye@adsl-71-134-252-102.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [23:18] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [23:19] dang it, it almost looks like my server isn't initiating the ssl connection with the clients. "my ip" (may be forged) did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MSA-SSL [23:20] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [23:20] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [23:21] hello all [23:21] heya shonudo [23:21] hey MLanden [23:21] good to see you [23:21] karuna (~karuna@202.138.251.72) joined ##slackware. [23:21] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-50-95.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] shonudo: acpi working stable? [23:21] evening shonudu [23:22] lol... it works; i'm still learning how [23:22] evening shonudo* [23:22] hey zaythan [23:22] god, i'm retarded. scratch everything i've said tonight [23:22] why the little "z"? [23:22] shonudo: cool [23:22] the little z?? [23:22] it's interesting in that it's one of those changes that you just do [23:22] like no more oss, go to alsa [23:23] no more of the old pm, go to acpi [23:23] so you just do it [23:23] or i just do it [23:23] without giving it much thought [23:23] iceheart (~nihao@114.83.48.28) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:23] shonudo: with the 2.6.34.1 kernel? [23:23] well, with earlier kernels, actually [23:24] that's right..2.4x [23:24] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: there is never a time where the twins should be allowed to be nasty dirty... ever [23:24] or the earlier 2.6x kernel? [23:25] the early 2.6.x iirc [23:25] ahh...ok [23:25] i don't know how others compile kernels, but i sit there and read all the comments [23:25] lol [23:25] takes forever [23:25] but it's interesting because you can see how things are changing [23:25] true [23:26] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:27] the kernel still scares me im not messin with that thing yet....but it must be tedious going through all the changes [23:27] but reading about something that's deprecated (sp?) and replaced by something else isn't the same as understanding why the replacement is better or whatever [23:27] zaythan, the best way to get over that is to compile away [23:28] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.33.42) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [23:28] and screw up (because you will) [23:28] and do it again [23:28] and again [23:30] i am looking forward to it really i am just happy i got my system working right now and dont wanna break it just yet ; [23:30] no, that makes sense [23:31] btw, you don't have to boot what you compile [23:31] you can turn it into something to kill time with [23:31] then how do you know it worked?? [23:31] just download a kernel, and compile [23:31] you won't [23:31] but you'll know what's in there [23:32] and there's a lot [23:32] and you can test it [23:32] so what if it fails [23:33] true [23:34] and then you'll eventually get to the point where you're a compiling god, and it's second nature, and you compile a kernel... [23:34] and forget the fs module for the file system you're using [23:34] doh! [23:34] hahah [23:34] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host81-159-12-253.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:35] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host81-159-12-241.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [23:35] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-50-95.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:42] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. 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