[00:00] there might be, you might be able to call information for your area [00:00] neonflux_ (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:00] Cann0n, you know Mindi too?...;) [00:00] MLanden: from GA? [00:00] lol [00:00] lol [00:00] just let the panic attack happen. you'll feel better afterwords and will probably just go to sleep [00:00] +1 MLanden [00:00] cypherpunko (~yogini@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:01] antiwire: I never have felt better after a panic attack.. [00:01] yeah dude, it's just herpes. it wont kill you and it will only bother you once and a while [00:01] yeah me neither [00:01] I don't feel any itch or anything. :| [00:01] haha [00:01] anywayp, back to more serious problems... i'll just try updating glib via compat32 [00:02] ##slackware-HouseMD-Edition [00:02] riza, were you advised by someone you know to get tested? [00:02] just watch those tv commercials showing herpes infested people enjoying life [00:02] hmmm...was thinking SC....but could be the same..or perhaps,NC....I95 keeps 'em alive...:D [00:02] riza: did you just randomly get a bump spring up? [00:02] Cann0n, yes. [00:02] riza: how many? [00:02] that's not a very good test dude. I get random bumps from my wetsuit [00:02] MLanden: I drove on i95 entirely too damn long the other day [00:02] MLanden: good ol i-95 [00:03] Cann0n, dunno.. like 5............... [00:03] dude you get random bumps from ingrown hairs.. do you shave? [00:03] antiwire: don't share wetsuits :P [00:03] squeeze and see if anything pops out [00:03] lmao [00:03] with manatees [00:03] ... o.o I'm afraid of pain. [00:03] Gah might be a dermatologist issue too.. [00:03] man up or just cry about it [00:03] so you need a therapist for your disease and phobia...no big deal [00:03] they aren't painful [00:03] squeeze the damn thing [00:03] raela, right,goin' to SELF from NY...how was the journey? [00:03] it's controlable too [00:04] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.254) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:04] ;_;... [00:04] MLanden: long :P but made it out alright [00:05] riza: when was the last time you had sexy times with the skank? [00:05] riza, you sure its just not a zit? have you tried putting a warm, damp washcloth? [00:05] warm damp washcloth? wtf, just squeeze it.. who needs doctoring :P [00:05] Is this really happening? [00:05] i was about to ask the same thing [00:06] Zits down there?! [00:06] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] Am I hallucinating this shit or what the fsck? [00:06] uh yeah they're really common [00:06] anywhere you have hair [00:06] antiwire: no... it's just a bad dream [00:06] lol Skank. I feel like a skank now. [00:06] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.43.107) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:06] riza: how old are you? [00:06] 233. [00:06] 23. [00:06] is it a bump with a white head? if so.. probably zit or ingrown hair [00:06] My name is Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC. [00:06] lmfao [00:06] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [00:06] hahaha [00:07] lol [00:07] psssssh. my friend sarah got herpes when she was 17... her first time with some guy she never saw again [00:07] oh man my stomach hurts I'm lol'ing so hard [00:07] yeah, why don't girls put out for guys they know [00:07] sounds pro Cann0n [00:07] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-119-195.consolidated.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:07] zaltekk: LOL [00:08] i'm just glad i got out of dating with clean bill of health [00:08] Skywise: i dunno... in a way im glad, because she wouldn't have told me [00:08] just think of the scars from the boils as...trophies? [00:08] yeah... [00:08] wow, what convo did i just walk in on :p [00:08] stds: gotta catch 'em all :P [00:08] antiwire: LMFAO [00:09] ;_; I'm bad... [00:09] yes you are [00:09] sking, don't ask... [00:09] riza: was she fat? [00:09] I don't think that's the proper question. Was it *worth* it? [00:09] is it ever? [00:09] could have been [00:10] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:10] we don't know, maybe he nailed pam A [00:10] i'm just throwing this out there... i don't really have herpes [00:10] eww [00:10] some people are into BBWs [00:10] i am [00:10] but i know enough about it from EMT school and my health classes [00:10] what ever helps you sleep at night [00:10] haha [00:10] Have you people seen my pix? D: [00:11] oh god no [00:11] no, lets see! [00:11] no, but i'll take a look [00:11] no and no one cares [00:11] (says raela) [00:11] sking, lol [00:11] omfg no pics [00:11] haha [00:11] we can't trust you unless we can trust your face [00:11] look I bet he's copy and pasting right now you bastards [00:11] damn it. [00:12] prolly [00:12] Skywise: do you find this one sexy? (she is in lingerie.. swim suit? I really don't know) http://photos.today.az/images/Weird_Interesting/Donna-Simpson-fattest-woman4.jpg [00:12] i still need advice with the multilib asd glib update [00:12] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] i'm not even clickin on that [00:12] wait, wasn't she on good luck chuck? lol [00:12] theres a difference between bbw and a blob [00:12] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [00:12] It's a little excessive [00:12] it's a BBW. she has her naughty bits covered or hidden [00:13] hidden.. by &. ? [00:13] covered and hidden in fat [00:13] lol [00:13] sking: click the link, if you dare [00:13] it's like, wow man. [00:13] oh i did [00:13] its hideous [00:13] no, thats wrong [00:13] she still wants to gain 400 more pounds [00:13] this is right: http://www.miosotis-claribel.com/updatepics/leobed_xl.jpg [00:13] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:14] theres gotta be a figure [00:14] haha, don't get in a fight with that one& you will be dead with those [00:14] -_- [00:14] those are fake, right? [00:14] nope [00:14] 400 more lbs? [00:14] they're real [00:14] reallllly? [00:14] they look real [00:14] Skywise: looks like my cousin [00:14] they look stretcy [00:14] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] just minus the nsfw tits [00:14] she's dominican [00:14] her thighs are pretty small / well shaped for boobs that size [00:14] my cousin is half israeli [00:14] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [00:14] sking: she's 600 now.. wants to be the world's largest woman [00:15] she should just get a fat suit, so she can take it off when she's had enough [00:15] trying to be 600lbs is all kinds of stupid [00:15] she would rather have that title than be healthy? [00:15] thats rather disturbing [00:15] s/be healthy/live/ [00:15] you can be fat and still be fit [00:15] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] haha [00:16] no you can't [00:16] but being morbidly obese has its own issues [00:16] your heart will die [00:16] you ever see an nfl lineman? [00:16] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [00:16] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-119-195.consolidated.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] sure. look at sumo wrestlers [00:16] meh, thats a bit different [00:16] not at all [00:16] he at leasts moves quick [00:16] that isn't 600lbs [00:16] they're over 300 [00:16] Skywise: she wants to be 1000 [00:16] and the woman gets that heavy by moving as little as possible [00:16] yeah, that chick is crazy [00:17] sking: she plans on gaining 400 more by pure fast food :/ [00:17] and eating the fattiest foods she can [00:17] lets take this chatter to ##slackware-offtopic [00:17] but being fat isn't unhealthy on its own [00:17] raela: that won't be hard [00:17] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [00:17] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] its just that most fat people are unhealthy as well [00:17] sking: unless her heart gives out first [00:17] how is being fat not unhealthy on its own? it leats to other problems [00:17] no it doesn't [00:17] your system isnt' designed to deal with that [00:17] jon_ (~jon@d069167.adsl.hansenet.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [00:17] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [00:18] its just old stereotypes [00:18] not really [00:18] yeah [00:18] excessive fat stresses the organs, increases cortisol, and increases blood pressure.. all quite harmful [00:18] it leads to diabetes, hypertensions, high cholesterol, heart disease [00:18] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.75.62) joined ##slackware. [00:18] insulin resistance, too [00:18] thats just not true [00:19] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:19] its an easy scapegoat [00:19] ok, go ahead and ignore hte medical proof and get fat and see what it does to you [00:19] but the fact is theres no mechanism for such causes and effects [00:19] i like fat chicks [00:19] um, fat people do have a higher survival rate in some cancers iirc [00:19] there are plenty of old fat people [00:19] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [00:20] Skywise: the cortisol explains some of the issues [00:20] there isn't a causal relationship [00:20] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [00:20] corellation doesn't equal causation [00:20] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] i could loose 20 lbs [00:20] its more likely that people having those problems are also obese, but the obesity didn't cause the problem [00:20] excessive fat also imposes gravity on your lumbers. [00:21] Skywise, there is a difference between being overweight as dictated by society and being in the morbidly obese.. are you saying the one I posted is healthy? [00:21] on your knee [00:21] i just can't while i'm stuck out on the farm all the time [00:21] her heart is gonna suicide at some point [00:21] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [00:21] unhealthy eating and lack of exercise causes obesity, and also causes the other issue [00:21] raela, no, she's an attention junkie, her problem is mental [00:21] lack of exercise kills [00:21] Skywise: you make any headway on the remote root fs lvm/dm-crypt password unlocking ? [00:22] i think someone can bo overweight as long as they are active enough [00:22] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] sking: sad thing is... eating unhealty is easier and cheaper than eating healthy [00:22] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.43.107) joined ##slackware. [00:22] being active however (in a normally operating person) will reduce their weight [00:22] excersize can kill too, i was gonna reference a famous marathon runner who died of a heart attack but you guys prolly wouldn't know his name [00:22] true Cann0n [00:23] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [00:23] the whole point of a marathon is to die at the end [00:23] lets move to ##slackware-offtopic [00:23] he was just joggint at the time [00:23] thats how they were ran when they were invented [00:23] i never go there, it smells funny [00:23] that's just all the agents in there [00:23] don't worry about that [00:24] Skywise, you've never been there, however, the air quality may change when you arrive. ;) [00:24] well, it wasn't invented, the original runner did it and then died and it was memorialized [00:24] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:24] from all the fat people weating just by sitting? [00:24] Skywise: it's because of raela [00:24] Cann0n, until we got the odor filter installed. :P [00:24] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [00:24] i think this offtopic is ok as long as it doesn't interfere with a on topic discussion [00:25] fire|bird: i request WDs40 scented air freshers [00:25] s/a/an/ [00:26] yeah. it's just good practice. [00:26] i've been told to go there a lot of times... [00:26] Cann0n: go to offtopic [00:26] but i have no problem talking about fat chicks and herpes in here. it's just irc [00:26] but what really matters is good resting heart rate and being able to recover after exertion [00:26] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] my resting heart rate is 66bpm [00:26] Skywise: I'm sure a pubmed search would bring up all sorts of research on the effects of obesity on health [00:26] yep, work capacity doesn't determine your health in and of itself [00:26] being fat raises blood pressure which raises the resting heart rate [00:27] i'm 230lb but i played football at 220 [00:27] but are you muscle or fat? [00:27] trhodes: shuddup shuttin-up you shudda-hump! [00:27] fat doesn't have to do with weight [00:27] weight also isn't always a good indication.. muscle vs fat [00:27] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [00:27] I WAS 250, now i'm 190 [00:27] raela, the science on this is changing [00:27] my resting heart rate / blood pressure is generally pretty good / low, but I'm in horrible shape :P [00:28] i have a pretty decent work capacity but relatively high bp [00:28] (runs in the family) [00:28] it was just overly simplistic to blame everyone's health problems on being obese because those people are also looked upon as being slothly and of poor self discipline [00:28] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [00:29] +1 Skywise [00:29] doctors have been using it as an easy out since the 50s [00:29] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:29] people bitching at McDonalds about being fat... [00:29] I got to do all sorts of neat monitors in my physiology class.. got hooked up to an ecg a lot. when a group member scared me as a test, it sent my heart into an arrhythmia for a few beats :P [00:29] if you discepline yourself to eat right and go outside and do something other than sit at a computer or in front of a tv, you generally will lose weight [00:30] you know what makes people fat? sitting in from of a damned computer, video game, or tv all the time [00:30] sking: metabolism matters quite a bit as well [00:30] yes& but you have to adjust your diet around your metabolism [00:30] or move more [00:30] pick one [00:30] s/from/front/ [00:30] or both [00:30] that makes some people fat [00:30] other people have other reasons [00:31] some people just tend to collect calories [00:31] fire|bird, ever heard of rakarrack or orDrumbox..saw in freshmeat/sourceforge ,they released some upgrades today [00:31] yeah. i spend most of my time infront of a computer. i eat healty and i'm ultra active at least 3 days out of the week [00:31] we aren't talking about the medical conditions that contribute to being fat, we are talking about in general what being obese does to your body [00:31] there are rare cases where people will exercise loads, eat little, and still not lose weight [00:31] by ultra, i mean 6 to 14 hours of skateboarding [00:31] 3 times a week [00:31] MLanden, yeah I have, iirc Urchlay had made a slackbuild for rakarrack a while back and sent it to eviljames [00:31] our physiology evolved under scarcity and being able to efficiently generate fat has always been an advantagous trait [00:32] Then I'm supernova style active [00:32] sucka [00:32] fire|bird, ok [00:32] humans are one o the onl mammals that can even get obese without dying from it [00:32] MLanden, I haven't used it myself, but sounds nice. [00:32] I'm like a thermonuclear calorie killa [00:32] MLanden, How's it going? :) [00:32] its only been recently that we've had such a predictable and continous bounty [00:32] what about pigs? [00:32] english channel swimmers sure use their fat [00:32] fire|bird, not too bad thanks...yourself? [00:32] antiwire: slide me some of that calorie burning :P [00:33] and i wouldn't call elephants slender [00:33] i [00:33] no they are just big boned [00:33] MLanden, doing great, thank you. :) [00:33] i'll also say the tasties cows got the best marbling [00:33] tastiest [00:34] my one dog has permanant fat deposits.. apparently they'd even grow back with surgical removal. they're from her being overweight for too long in her life [00:34] that sounds odd [00:34] she's in good body condition.. except with bulges that her harness disappears into :P [00:34] because we don't get more fat cells, they just get bigger [00:34] thats why liposuction works [00:34] they're lipomas [00:34] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-67.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [00:34] yeah... i LOVE meat too [00:34] oh ok [00:34] i don't change my eating habits, i just skate harder [00:34] thats not fat, thats fatty tissue [00:35] notKlaatu (~klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:35] end result is she still looks hilarious [00:35] poor thing [00:35] can see her harness being long in.. it was still loose enough for me to fit a hand in there http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1777/dogstruck.jpg [00:36] Skywise: fatty tissue is the fancy medical term for fat [00:36] fat can be a good thing in the extreme case of being stranded in the Andes via plane crash [00:36] Skywise, true...good marbling makes for good corned beef [00:36] it depends on the location of the fat cells [00:36] sking: well, lipomas are tumors instead of true fat.. hers are just benign [00:36] i've know meth addicts that couldn't loose weight [00:37] isn't that counter intuitive to what meth does to teh body? [00:37] meth doesn't do it, their habits do it [00:37] weirdest thing ever... she would go 3 days without sleep or food and she'd never loose weight [00:37] people tweaked out forget to eat and do anything to maintain their health generally [00:37] meth makes your stomach hurt so bad, you can't eat [00:37] yeah that oo [00:38] s/oo/too [00:38] her body was prolly in starvation mode so anytime it got a calorie it held on to them all [00:38] it was as if the fat tissue was under her muscle, not on top [00:38] she wasn't soft [00:38] bears couldn't make it thru the winter without enough fat [00:39] she prolly had good tone from pacing miles every night [00:39] yep [00:39] i've started doing that now [00:39] bears don't store hteir fat on the outside however, its stored on the inside of their rib cage, and if they got to fat, it would kill them [00:39] it's a vital part of life, but when it's 100lb 5 year olds.... it's a problem [00:39] whenever i'm waiting for a process to complete i get up and walk, march or dance until its done [00:40] instead of just waiting [00:40] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [00:40] its less boring [00:40] wow, how'd get from from stds to bear fat again? [00:40] how'd we [00:40] yead, i need to do something about my living situation [00:40] hippaghonasyphalitis is bad [00:40] branching thought process [00:41] i'm trying to get ipod management [00:41] gtkpod SUCKS [00:41] you could use amarok.... [00:41] and i'm having issues updating all my shit so i can "try" other programs that claim my needs [00:42] but it doesn't work that great [00:42] i miss the old amarok... [00:42] Who needs rhythmbox and banshee? [00:42] for example, when i downloaded a lot of album art into amarok it refused to update the ipod because there wasn't new music [00:42] i don't use those things [00:42] what version? [00:42] i'll be trying them next [00:42] i'm on dial-up so it takes a long time [00:43] i don't do the album art thing [00:43] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [00:43] i like it on the ipod because it shows while playing [00:43] gtkpod floods my screen with 400+ pop-ups about "failure to locate lyricsC" [00:43] i'm either driving or skating when i listen to mine [00:44] and it's always on shuffle [00:44] i don't even do albums. i erase them on all my tags [00:44] Cann0n, true on branching thought process...specially when looking up one thing on wikipedia and winding up 30 or 40 pages deep...:D [00:44] gosh, i'm guilty of that [00:45] MLanden: yeah lol. i get so many random thoughts, it's had for me to focus [00:45] I have an mdadm mirror setup right now. My system disk is not part of the mirror. The system was booted with one of the members of the mirror unplugged and then shut back down. Both members of the mirror are plugged back into the system now but the mirror broken. Does anyone know the easiest way to add the second member back to the mirror? [00:45] i should bust out my homework right now while i'm waiting... [00:45] i use phatnoise media manager for my collection because it can index cds and usb drives for my car stereo and it adds voice cues for the id3 information per song [00:46] i got 3 tests due in less than 12 hours [00:46] antiwire, remake the raid [00:46] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [00:47] woh3 (will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [00:47] i just want Artist/Song [00:47] Skywise, what does phatnoise use for its voice engine? [00:47] i got like 20 GB of music [00:47] jon_ (~jon@d069167.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [00:48] with mkraid --really-force [00:48] it uses scansoft [00:49] jon_ (jon@d069167.adsl.hansenet.de) left ##slackware. [00:49] veritos (~veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:49] i'm looking for scansoft_rachels voice, she's portugese and i have alot of brazilian music [00:50] mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 1 drive (out of 2). [00:50] damn it! [00:50] mkraid? isn't that totally dated? [00:50] madam is the tool [00:51] yeah, they should both work [00:51] mkraid isn't even on -current [00:52] the same command is in both [00:53] you just do create --force [00:54] jon_ (~jon@d069167.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [00:54] it can tell which mirror is most current and then syncronizes the others [00:55] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:55] AndIrc (~android@c-76-23-44-134.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:55] Nick change: AndIrc -> Guest43368 [00:56] antiwire, whats /proc/mdstat say? [00:56] hi! is anyone awake in here? [00:56] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:56] --force doesn't help [00:56] mdstat still says md0 : active raid1 sdc1[1] 732571904 blocks [2/1] [_U] [00:56] [00:56] Guest30895, no, we're all asleep [00:56] ;) [00:56] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:57] mdadm --assemble --force --config=/etc/mdadm.conf /dev/md0 didn't add sdb1 back [00:57] lol. didn't think you guys slept... just kinda had a caffeine induced trance [00:58] antiwire, anything in your syslogs or dmesg? [00:58] that's Guest43368, not Guest30895 [00:58] The disk isn't failed. [00:58] Guest43368 of Borg, how may we be of service? [00:59] I know u all probably are tired of people asking, but does anyone have an idea as to the slackbook 3.0 status? [00:59] It's being written [01:00] Guest43368, The "beta" should be online here in a few more months. [01:00] so its not cancelled then. I though it was due last year so I was afraid it would never show. [01:01] Guest43368, nope, Alan_Hicks just has some semblance of a life [01:01] Guest43368, I just copied a text from www.slackbook.org/ [01:02] antiwire, see if you can remove the failed disk from the array and then add it back [01:02] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/ktedHA23.html [01:02] it is removed [01:03] I can't figure out how to re-add it [01:03] aight, thanks for the replies. [01:03] is the manpage for mdadm totally jacked up for anyone else? on 13.1 or current? [01:03] antiwire: mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --add /dev/whatever i think [01:04] Guest43368 (android@c-76-23-44-134.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [01:04] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:04] jon_: that's it. thanks dude [01:04] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/bnDATt13.html [01:05] epic... [01:05] nice :) [01:06] tltstc (~tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:06] what is it?.....faith no more reference...:D [01:06] dang that thing is going to be syncing for a while [01:07] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [01:09] it gets slower as it goes [01:09] don't monitor it or it goes slower [01:09] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:10] it knows you're watching [01:10] it throttles back when another process is active [01:12] yaya for nice processes [01:12] hope a raid rebuild isnt nice.. [01:13] The lame part is that it was just me bumping an SATA cable [01:13] system booted with just one of the 2 disks attached [01:13] I need the cables with spring clips [01:13] yeah normal sata cables suck.. [01:14] veritos (veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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[02:19] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:23] Akiraa (~Akiraaaa@79.112.47.93) left irc: Quit: Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do... [02:27] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-31.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:29] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.78.174) joined ##slackware. [02:29] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.63) joined ##slackware. [02:32] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:33] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. [02:33] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [02:35] sluckxz (sluckxz@anapnea.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:38] sluckxz (sluckxz@anapnea.net) joined ##slackware. [02:40] solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) joined ##slackware. [02:40] Which is the best compression format (speed+compression)? [02:40] you can have speed, or you can have compression. pick one. [02:40] however, look at what pat picked for packages [02:41] alisonken1noc: Pat has used xz. [02:41] his tests indicated the current compression format takes a hit at compressing, but has a good uncompression speed and compression ratio [02:41] the highest compression i have messed with uses PAQ / content mixing (CM) algorithms, and it's wildly slow [02:42] I just use lossy compression for all my backups. [02:42] much better ratios [02:42] :o [02:43] chachacha-channel stopper! [02:44] The order of compression, I believe is: gz < bz < xz .Right? [02:45] sounds about right [02:45] alisonken1noc: Does it imply that gz is the fastest? [02:45] in general, but the underlying data structure is what makes gz, bz2, or xz behave differnetly [02:46] gz can be the fastest, but that depends on which compression level is used [02:46] yeah, i think for some data, there' overlap between gzip -9 and bzip -1 [02:46] *there's [02:46] try compressing a string of zeros [02:48] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:48] alisonken1noc: I am creating a backup of my 250GB HD. 10 hours have passed and only 82GB is compressed. Speed indicated is 2MB/s. [02:49] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-68-232.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:49] is there anyway to opt out of GeoIP? I found my long-lat in a .js file!!! [02:49] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [02:50] I found it too [02:50] ty [02:50] thanks for the tip [02:50] ok [02:50] I'm coming over on thursday night. there better be beer. [02:50] so how do we snip this crap off? [02:50] I'm almost ready to submit grub2 to slackbuilds.org [02:50] SunTzu, even if you disable it now, *they* know where you live... :) [02:50] there's a gas station down the road [02:51] no; they only have the town name and its long-lat [02:51] it's part of googleapi's data [02:52] alisonken1noc: I am using $ xz -2 [02:52] -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 1024000 zeros [02:52] -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 48 zeros.bz2 [02:52] -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 1032 zeros.gz [02:52] Channel flood from mancha -- kicking [02:52] -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 280 zeros.xz [02:52] mancha kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [02:52] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [02:52] w00t [02:53] antiwire so you havent figered out how to opt out yet? [02:53] mancha: Nice test. [02:54] lol, mancha [02:54] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-68-232.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [02:54] mancha: What about compression time? [02:55] good question, hold on... [02:56] taking gz's time as the baseline, bz2 is 2.11 times the baseline and xz is 22.6 times the baseline [02:56] for my 1 meg of zeros file. [02:57] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:58] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-31.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:00] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:01] wvae (~ven@145-116-228-165.uilenstede.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [03:06] opsss (~user@213.149.138.60) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:07] Coke (~coke@c-b3bee055.1212-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [03:08] mancha: How about a test with data from random? [03:08] http://sprunge.us/abUQ [03:08] hold on [03:08] random stuffs there ^^ [03:09] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Necrosporus [03:09] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-15-238.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:10] on my box, they all do equally poorly on compressing /dev/urandom (which is actually a good measure of how random it is) and time-wise, bzip2 is fastest, xz follows and gz is slowest. [03:11] stu_ (~stuart@175.137.76.44) joined ##slackware. [03:11] i burnt my 3 installdiscs direct from USB, does that do anything to the integrity of it? because whenever i bootup with the CD, image.bz takes forever to load [03:12] oops scratch that [03:12] i misread the time (missed the "1" in 1.xyz) [03:13] gz is fastest, bz2 is 11.5 times slower than gz, and xz is 12.07 times slwoer than gz. [03:15] xz is 99.99% the size of gz, bz2 is 100.5% the size of gz, and all three, gz, bz2, and xz are larger than the original "uncompressed" file :) [03:15] haha yeah, silly test [03:15] mancha: how can they be larger than the uncompressed file? [03:15] because they have header code [03:16] i had some paq program that shrunk mp3's by a few percent [03:16] Coke, depending on what's being compressed, as mancha notes the compression headers (among other things) can increase the size [03:16] mancha: yeah, but your uncompressed file must contain unencodable sequences from hell [03:16] what's the original file size and content? [03:16] and sometimes compressed things take more space to encode than uncompressed. [03:16] mancha: indeed, but I'm wondering what file you're testing with [03:16] to get such a poor result, that is [03:16] (like most media) [03:16] it takes more to say "two ones" than "one one" [03:17] Coke: a megabyte of /dev/urandom :) [03:17] yeah, that would probably do the trick [03:17] but most data has patterns so the tests are a bit unfair. [03:17] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:17] yepm random sampling of real world data is where the test is at [03:17] Coke yes, if you scroll back to the start of this thread you'll understand what we're doing.\ [03:18] but random sampling of real world data borders on real work :P [03:18] mancha: yeah, it's the first line in my buffer hehe [03:18] trhodes: tuesday passtime [03:19] Coke, we did a megabyte of zeros first [03:19] mancha: btw, xz' decompression speed depends a lot on the compressed size: basically, it extracts a constant amount of compressed bytes per second, so if you have one file and compress it down to 20MB, it'll be twice as fast to extract than if it were compressed down to 40MB [03:19] mancha: how did that turn out? [03:19] (roughly) [03:19] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.63) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:19] as i noted in the random example, it is indeed a good test of randomness how badly the random string compresses. [03:19] stu_ (~stuart@175.137.76.44) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:19] Coke, last time i posted results the bot kicked me extreme prejudice [03:20] but, for xz, pay attention to the compression settings : higher level mean higher memory requirements for the decompression too [03:20] me with extreme prejudice * [03:20] mancha: was it small? [03:20] was the compression effective on loads of zeroes? [03:20] actually, not for mancha but for everybody, it's good to know [03:20] adrien: yeah, interesting [03:21] sure, 1 meg of zeros can be compressed to 48 bytes in bz2, 1032 bytes in gz, and 280 bytes in xz [03:21] Coke, as expected, something with such a regular pattern (constant) compresses very well. [03:22] mancha: yes, just didn't know how small [03:22] the mem requirement thing is actually a currently ongoing "debate" because if you need 65MB of memory to extract (default setting: -6), only have 40MB free and hit swap, it's going to be awfully slow [03:22] i bet 1032 of gz is some manifest? [03:22] i am not familiar with the gz specs. are you? [03:22] no, but it's the only thing I can think of because they should all do simple RLE if possible [03:23] i would presume you are right. [03:23] do you guys know of "pbzip2" that is multithreaded? It is the fastest i think [03:24] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a89-152-51-207.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [03:24] rfc 1952 if you're very interested. [03:24] hello [03:25] my dolphin can't browse inside samba shares in 13.1 and in 13 it was no problem. anyone with the same problem? [03:25] jlarrew (~WallRat00@c-68-43-1-15.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:25] Alt_of_Ctrl, I think it is because of the samba version shipped with 13.1 [03:25] AppDeb: it's not that fast actually, because bzip2 is itself quite slow [03:26] and btw: http://rzip.samba.org/ (in slackware) and http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/lrzip/README (see parent folder too) [03:26] AppDeb, any solution for that? [03:26] sking (~sking@24.238.12.206) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:26] Alt_of_Ctrl, Not that I know of, I didn't dare to downgrade samba [03:27] ok [03:28] is downgrading samba so bad? [03:28] adrien, will it gives linear increase in performance, compared to the cores you have, that is something. You can also try different compression levels with bzip2 to make it faster? [03:28] as in how many linkages breal? [03:28] break! arghh [03:31] http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/6/20/dell-u-turns-ubuntu/ [03:31] eek! "Linix" [03:32] hah, missed that typo [03:37] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:37] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:39] Boltsky (bolt@cpe-76-168-252-230.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [03:39] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4419, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-04 01:07:21 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:42] how does the cpu time limit of ulimit work ? [03:44] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [03:48] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:49] im guessing kills the process or puts it to sleep [03:49] or maybe even renices it to super low prio [03:50] man setrlimit | less -ip rlimit_cpu [03:51] looks like it'll kill it if it ignores sigxcpu [03:53] (evidently for a hard limit) [04:04] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:05] nvision (~nvision@e179132087.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [04:07] jow2q (~jonatan@81-226-63-190-no179.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [04:08] morning guys o/ [04:10] morning phrag [04:13] phrag: 'morning. [04:14] warmana (~quassel@nat/ibm/x-dspgemfensgcakym) joined ##slackware. [04:16] warmana (~quassel@nat/ibm/x-dspgemfensgcakym) left irc: Client Quit [04:19] gh0st (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:20] jgeboski (james@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [04:25] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-124-215.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[06:09] found them [06:12] nvision (~nvision@e179132087.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:17] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [06:19] rugxulo (~rugxulo@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [06:19] alright, raise your hand if you're using ZipSlack (11) ... [06:21] rugxulo: I used to use it about a year ago. I have used it only for 2 months. [06:21] well I'm messing with it now, mostly works [06:21] my main gripe (although DOS does this too, unlike XP) is that the stupid fan sounds like it's on at full blast [06:22] rugxulo: Why are you using it? Any special reason? [06:22] easy to install, plus this machine doesn't have gobs of RAM [06:23] rugxulo: It is worth installing Slackware on a dedicated partition. [06:23] this isn't really meant to be a permanent solution, just a temporary playground [06:23] I'm just vaguely curious [06:24] rugxulo: Oh. Just make sure that you don't mess up with the rest of the system. [06:24] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.42.205) joined ##slackware. [06:26] there's really nothing to mess up except XP [06:26] which has already been reinstalled here once fairly recently [06:26] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.42.205) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:27] Action: rugxulo laughs in frustration at the stupid fan [06:27] hit it! [06:27] never_mind (~dexter@219.64.95.198) joined ##slackware. [06:28] show it who's the man [06:28] rugxulo: ZipSlack was a great invention, and quite useul for providing a demonstration of GNU/Linux. [06:28] usb 1-1: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usblp while 'usb' sets config #1 <- anyone knows what this is? [06:30] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [06:30] volo (~volo@netacc-gpn-4-38-244.pool.telenor.hu) joined ##slackware. [06:30] hi [06:30] Nick change: never_mind -> Dexter [06:31] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.42.205) joined ##slackware. [06:32] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:34] Coke (~coke@c-b3bee055.1212-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [06:34] volo: Hi. [06:37] Is this command-line correct: $ tar -c -v -f - -l / | xz -v -2 > /media/memory/slash.tar.xz ? [06:37] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:38] change / to ./ when you're at the proper spot (cd / in this case) so you can restore to a non-root place if you want to check [06:39] also - if you're going to do root, then you need to exclude /dev, /sys, /proc, /tmp at least [06:39] alisonken1noc: Does `-l' not exclude `/proc'? [06:40] not necessarily - you can check though [06:41] that also may exclude other partitions you may have mounted - like /home [06:41] for example [06:42] Zipslack was cool, but is decreasing in relevance as both DOS and FAT filesystems are going away. [06:42] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-1-116.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:42] alisonken1noc: No. /home is being included. [06:43] davi` (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [06:44] Mel, "-f -" is the default and can be left off. Are you sure you want -v? Maybe handy to check the progress, but it is a lot of output. [06:44] IIRC -l is deprecated and will be going away, if not already gone, from tar options. [06:45] it's still in the man page and not listed as deprecated in 13.1 [06:45] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:45] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.42.205) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:46] tar --help doesn't show it, but you're right, it's in the manpage [06:47] -l, --check-links print a message if not all links are dumped [06:47] More than 15 hours have passed, and my backup has not yet completed! [06:48] --one-file-system stay in local file system when creating archive [06:48] eh? uh ... I'm far from a tar expert, but mine says "-l --one-file-system stay in local file system when creating an archive" [06:49] okay, I am looking at 13.1's tar --help [06:49] yeah, mine's old (1.15.1) [06:49] man page -l is --one-file-system [06:49] tar --help is maintained, the man page is not. [06:49] rob0: What's a `local' and `non-local' file-system? [06:49] the man page says the info doc is more up-to-date [06:49] nfs is non-local [06:49] so is cifs [06:50] I think "local" means "in that particular mount". [06:50] that's the other definition :) non-local being another partition [06:51] even on the same drive [06:51] but have to recheck [06:51] rob0 seems to be right. The info page has `--check-links' `-l'. [06:53] Mel-nix: I did not yet see it mentioned, but your xz command needs "-c" in order to be able to redirect its output into the target archive [06:55] might be easier to just use lzip next time ;-) [06:55] volo (volo@netacc-gpn-4-38-244.pool.telenor.hu) left ##slackware. [06:56] asamoah (~caio@190.244.49.108) joined ##slackware. [06:57] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [06:59] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.42.205) joined ##slackware. [06:59] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.42.205) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:01] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-236-250.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [07:01] grazymax (~grazymax@host130-86-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:02] alienBOB: Is that so? The manual says: "If no files are given or file is -, xz reads from standard input and writes the processed data to standard output." [07:02] OK that would be good then ;-) [07:10] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.42.205) joined ##slackware. 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[07:19] txz is a slackware package :) [07:19] well... so it tgz and the entire world uses it :) [07:20] you can name it .mytarxzfile :) [07:20] flvr (0@host-93-182-19-84.real.kvidex.net) joined ##slackware. [07:20] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:20] flvr kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using IRC as root is dangerous. Please reference "Using IRC as root" via google for further information. [07:23] rheault (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:26] rugxulo (~rugxulo@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: [BX] Size DOES matter [07:29] warmana (~quassel@nat/ibm/x-ryyncvrlfqfwueqp) joined ##slackware. [07:29] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-mhqmggeokvchacts) joined ##slackware. [07:30] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-170-244.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[08:00] /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages [08:01] man smartctl [08:01] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:01] PS: my computer runs almost 24/24 but it's fairly new (about 8 months old) [08:03] rheault (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:03] mine runs 24/7/365 and is not new, but hdd's still die after a while. so far, mine have lasted several years [08:04] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:04] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-236-250.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [08:04] Ropmain, make sure you have backups. [08:05] slava_dp, yea, i do have. thanks [08:05] this is /var/log/syslog http://pastebin.com/awH3Pzkv [08:05] I/O errors [08:05] /dev/sr0 is your cdrom. [08:07] i know. but that's the only thing i could find suspicious in those logs [08:07] check smart [08:08] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[11:03] slackware 13.1, the directory /usr/doc/qt-4.6.2_2d3d3e5 contains a broken symlink to /usr/lib/qt/doc/html, is this a known problem? [11:03] the slackware package doesn't seem to contain that directory too [11:04] the qt documentation is available at slackbuilds.org qt-doc package [11:04] i dont know about the problem [11:04] sahko: oh, nice. I downloaded the qt source and extracted the directory from there [11:05] I'll have a look at SBo [11:05] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [11:05] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBD02.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] i would imagine it does something similar [11:06] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:07] btw, the SBo build script seems to be outdated, because it builds docs for qt-4.5 and slackware 13.1 seems to be using qt-4.6 [11:08] spaceplo_ (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-otrmlfykkmgdqhex) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:08] SpacePlod (SpacePlod@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-vpprfephreuarjig) joined ##slackware. [11:10] evanton: we only maintain the branch for the latest stable. And do not have scripts for stuff that is in Slackware proepr. Since QT4 was present in 13.0 the last version you will see is from 12.2 [11:11] BP{k}: I'm looking at http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/development/qt-doc/ [11:11] Action: phrag trying to setup openvpn [11:12] so it points to 13.1, the download link is to qt-4.5.1 source(and docs) while slackware 13.1 seems to be using qt-4.6 [11:13] thats up to the maintainer to keep up to date. contact him [11:13] not a big deal really, since I only needed an offline copy of docs which I extracted from the qt source tarball manually, not necessary as slackware package [11:13] source qt-doc.info ; echo $EMAIL [11:13] I'll have those docs in my home directory, anyway [11:14] I'll drop him a mail, not a problem [11:15] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:32] its 'going'.. you? [11:32] phrag: no.. why? [11:33] oh, i think the domain was still in there DB from years ago (when you hosted it for me i think) [11:33] ah [11:33] its still showing that phra.gs is hosted by linode dns servers [11:33] I haven't hosted phra.gs for a long time [11:33] i just recently bought a linode and re-reg the domain [11:34] yeh, i've just re-added [11:34] phrag: do me a favor? [11:34] had to get it removed the other day tho as it already existed in there 'hosting' db [11:34] Dominian: sure [11:34] phrag: can you see if you can hit http://webmail.tls.net for me [11:34] tell me if the website loads [11:34] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.72.230) joined ##slackware. [11:34] yeh, nice and quick [11:34] sweet thanks [11:35] np =) [11:36] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:38] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f3cd:aeab:c722) joined ##slackware. [11:39] Nigromante (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:11] mosno (~mosno@c211-28-219-20.brasd3.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Changing host [13:11] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) joined ##slackware. [13:12] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [13:13] sking (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) joined ##slackware. [13:13] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [13:14] Does anyone else have this terribly annoying problem such that a normal left click will sometimes paste as if it were a middle click? [13:14] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [13:17] hiptobecubic: No. I used to experience that when I used to use Windows. Are you experiencing it under X ? [13:17] Mel-nix, yes. [13:19] hiptobecubic: Which Window Manager? [13:19] OB3 [13:19] with xfce4-panel [13:21] It's pretty terrible [13:21] mostly because firefox assumes you want to visit whatever "url" you are pasting... which might be anything [13:23] hiptobecubic: Well, it could be a problem with OB3 or the mouse itself. Try holding `shift' while clicking. [13:23] Mel-nix, what does shift do? Nothing here it seems [13:23] pcastle (~pcastle@166.205.139.205) joined ##slackware. [13:24] tuxdev (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [13:24] hiptobecubic: Have you changed any mouse-related settings in your WM or xorg.conf(5) ? [13:24] Mel-nix, can't say i have, no [13:25] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f3cd:aeab:c722) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:25] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [13:26] padhu (~Padhu@175.40.9.222) left irc: Quit: good night............. [13:28] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [13:28] hiptobecubic: Perhaps you should try with a different WM (XFCE). [13:29] I suppose i probably should. [13:29] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.86.39.153.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:33] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.42.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:34] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:20a:221:5dff:fe60:2a88) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:34] rafu (~slackrunn@77.53.11.107) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:34] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [13:35] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:ee7b:aeab:c722) joined ##slackware. [13:36] What is the problem with your xorg? [13:36] pcastle, Does anyone else have this terribly annoying problem such that a normal left click will sometimes paste as if it were a middle click? [13:37] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:37] I have [13:38] Does it start out working and starts happening later? [13:38] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) joined ##slackware. [13:38] i don't think so [13:38] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) left irc: Changing host [13:38] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [13:38] My one trackball sometimes does that when I "fat-finger" both buttons one and two... [13:39] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7C98E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [13:39] It's hard to "fat finger" a trackpad tap [13:39] Hmm did you try generating a xorg from the shell? [13:39] turn off 3 button emulation [13:40] dive, well i do use it sometimes. I was hoping that perhaps it would just work properly? [13:40] I think touchpads are a bit too sensitive [13:40] X -configure does a good job making a xorg.conf [13:40] as kernel development on the 2.6 branch slowed down for any reason this month? [13:40] think one left tap might be a two finger tap [13:40] as=has [13:40] I think Linus is on holiday [13:41] hi mancha - back from the twilight zone then? [13:41] ah, that explains it pprkut [13:41] even the man's entitled to some recreation :> [13:42] Camino (~camino@s15279632.onlinehome-server.info) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:46] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [13:47] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.43.104) joined ##slackware. [13:55] ryan_46 (1000@75-95-175-251.mfd.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [13:58] v4nelle (~van@ipa231.9.tellas.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:58] pcastle (~pcastle@166.205.139.205) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:59] pcastle (~pcastle@166.205.139.205) joined ##slackware. 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[14:23] it's a good thing. don't tempt people [14:24] Action: NaCl throws a bunch of cicadas into the channel [14:24] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:26] mancha: firefox got released today [14:26] Elektro_ (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Quit: Elektro_ [14:28] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:28] actually june 11th [14:34] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:35] asarch (~asarch@187.132.139.110) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:36] duet (~duet@71.21.89.86) joined ##slackware. [14:41] if fdformat gives me an error everytime it verifies does that mean that my fav floppy has died? [14:41] h3nry__ (~sixx@212.183.140.23) joined ##slackware. [14:41] duet: whats a floppy ? [14:42] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:43] jonsmith1982 (~jon@78.145.113.67) joined ##slackware. [14:44] duet: Probably. It _could_ be a dirty drive, but the odds are the floppy has had it. Ancient tech, you know. ;-) [14:45] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:45] i dont know about mounting dirty floppy's , just sounds wrong [14:46] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [14:46] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:46] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:50] i will have to go to circuit city's website and order a new box of 1.44MB floppies then [14:51] duet: why bother with that? is there an office depot close? [14:51] jewbacca: yeah one just opened up near me [14:51] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:52] duet: you can get a package of diskettes there [14:52] h3nry__ (~sixx@212.183.140.23) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:52] vldmr (100@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [14:52] jewbacca: the circuit city thing was kind of a joke [14:53] jewbacca: they went out of business [14:53] duet: not here, they didn't [14:53] jewbacca: where are you? [14:53] duet: nyc [14:54] jewbacca: i was going to say a compusa joke next, do you have them there too? [14:54] duet: i think we still have one in brooklyn [14:54] duet: i'm not in brooklyn, but yeah, i think i saw one there last time i was there [14:55] duet: can't be sure, though [14:55] please... how can I open files directly under firefox Download Popup ??? I need install something more ??? [14:55] im using slackware 13.1 [14:55] duet: i know that circuit city downsized quite a bit, but nyc still has them [14:55] :) [14:55] vldmr: what are you talking about? [14:56] vldmr: be more specific, rather [14:57] jewbacca: Im trying to open link files under web, but I need download it first. I would like to open then directly under your own application [14:57] what kind of files? [14:57] docs in general [14:57] vldmr: which docs? [14:58] open a .doc under openoffice... like example [14:58] vldmr: if you aren't willing to actually tell me, just install ubuntu and leave us alone [14:58] vldmr: well, do you have openoffice installed? [14:58] yes [14:58] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-15-238.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:58] then no, you don't need anything else other than a rudimentary knowledge of the linux filesystem [14:59] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-15-238.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:59] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [14:59] ok... [14:59] someone can help me ? [14:59] I need to know about extra packages to install [15:00] vldmr: you don't need to install any more packages for that application [15:00] I believe gnome packages [15:00] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-bccmbwyxvojwwwrp) joined ##slackware. [15:00] X:P [15:00] vldmr: you just need to read the fsck'ing manual and figure out what the hell to do [15:00] hey jew... please... stay quiet [15:01] I need to remember exta slackware package names [15:01] vldmr: Installing OpenOffice would put .doc files' handler info in firefox. [15:01] rabies (micemicer@core.routed.com) left ##slackware. [15:03] NightTiger: i'm tired of him, you deal with him [15:04] You seem to have forgotten what it was like when you didn't know anything... including how to ask politely. Hopefully, he'll learn... [15:05] the "open with" functionality ... I need it working... can someone help ? [15:05] vldmr: You said you have OpenOffice installed, yes? [15:05] vldmr: if you can't figure that out.. maybe slackware isn't for you. go bug the firefox people [15:05] I never did ask questions like that. A successful free software user needs a certain amount of self-reliance. [15:06] rob0: True, but today's kids... :-) [15:07] hey, don't associate me with him! I may be young, but at least I'm not -that- bad :P [15:07] Action: NightTiger breaks up laughing [15:07] raela: :P [15:07] xD [15:07] bye bye... tanks all [15:08] Bye! [15:08] ... [15:08] that kid is pretty violent.. wanting to hit us with tanks [15:08] vldmr: i might be able to help [15:08] that wasn't nice :P [15:08] vldmr: im new though [15:08] I thought he was equipping me for a trip to Toronto? [15:08] i guess he left [15:10] Sometimes trying to help is not really helping. IRC is a lousy place to try to learn basic skills of any sort, least of all GUI computer user skills. [15:10] I figure if a GUI is too hard to figure out, it's a lousy GUI. [15:10] rob0: to be able to have open office wouldnt he have to at least know how to use the slackbuild of it? [15:10] rob0: but.. I thought IRC could teach me how to love :( are you saying I've been mislead? [15:11] rob0: or compile it [15:11] duet: oH... thanks [15:11] :) [15:11] duet: his issue was he couldn't figure out how to open a .doc from clicking on it in firefox [15:11] yay he is back [15:11] That was not what was asked, duet. [15:11] duet: he'd just need to know the path to soffice [15:11] then just: openwith -> /path/to/soffice [15:11] firefox even lets you search for it! [15:12] vldmr: how did you get open office installed by the way [15:12] the search feature never does work for me though [15:12] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-15-238.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:12] duet: at this moment, I need to go... but I waitting for a next opportunity with you. thanks [15:12] ;) [15:13] vldmr: laters [15:13] bye [15:13] vldmr (100@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:17] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [15:17] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:18] so hot that my laptop can't build modules, it overheats and turns off. [15:19] SlackIT (~ricardo@201.65.76.10) joined ##slackware. [15:19] rob0 is completely right. That kind of question is simply retarded. [15:20] Had he asked "What program do you recommend for opening .doc files?", that's a reasonable question. [15:20] Alan_Hicks: right [15:20] Maybe he doesn't know about OO.o or Kword or what-have-you. [15:20] sorry, he just started pissing me off quickly [15:20] But "what do I put into Open with: ?" That's unacceptable. [15:20] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:21] I think he needs his ass kicked all the way back to win s/ raela: s/win/ubuntu/ [15:21] i'm guessing he's using google translate [15:21] s/ME// [15:21] jewbacca: ubuntu is too nice for him [15:22] either that or his english is really that bad [15:22] raela: ok, dos 5.0/win 3.11 [15:22] or he doesn't have any sense of what an executable file is. [15:22] raela: or os/2 warp 3 [15:22] jewbacca: win ME is one of the cruelest tortures available :P [15:23] raela: no, caldera linux is crueler [15:23] ohhh os/2 appears a lot in BOFH (been reading the archives) [15:23] You guys (and girls?) are being a bit harsh, is it not possible, on someone used to the coddling that MS has gotten then used to? [15:23] I knew Alan_Hicks as a newbie. He had a different attitude toward seeking help. He didn't ask for spoonfeeding, and very soon was flaming the stupid questions with vigor. :) [15:24] rob0: i wasn't on FreeNode at the time [15:24] I wasn't either. [15:24] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [15:24] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [15:24] rob0: i was using Yahoo chat's Unix room for most of my chat needs [15:24] This was Usenet, alt.os.linux.slackware [15:24] rob0: oh, i don't even know how to get a usenet account anymore [15:25] nvision (~nvision@g231187068.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:25] rob0: Thank you. :^) [15:26] You didn't walk into alt.os.linux.slackware and ask questions like that. [15:26] You got flamed so hard back then that your house caught on fire. [15:26] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:27] I really miss +Chiron+. He was a good man. I hope he's okay, but I doubt it, since he seems to have vanished from the Internet. [15:27] mcury (~mcury@189.24.182.51) joined ##slackware. [15:27] Alan_Hicks: i'm the kind of idiot that once i ask, i find the answer indepenantly [15:27] Yeah. He went Mac OSX for awhile, then we never heard from him. [15:28] jewbacca: That's usually the way it goes with me as well. As soon as I ask the question publically, the answer slaps me in the face. [15:28] Alan_Hicks: which is kinda dumb on my side [15:28] Alan_Hicks: and i don't have the patience for these new newbies [15:29] I often find answers just BEFORE asking. The process of assembling the question and requisite information helps a lot. [15:29] jewbacca: Be a GrandPa - that helps. :-) [15:29] NightTiger: if my oldest two get pregnant now, i will *kill* a kid [15:29] 31 is *way* too young to be a grandfather [15:30] haha [15:30] rob0: I think that's my case as well. Sometimes as soon as I read the question that I just typed up, I know the answer. [15:31] and sometimes it happens that you press enter/send by mistake ~_~ [15:31] The process of forming the question requires you to think about it in a slightly different manner, if you do it right. Sometimes that triggers the little grey cells. [15:31] Something about gathering all that information together and re-assembling it in a way that's easy for other people to comprehend has a way of jarring your brain into looking at all the information with a fresh, clean view, instead of thinking of it in the order you discovered the facts. [15:31] /dev/wife has an aunt who was a grandma at 29, great grandma at 42, and might be a great-great-gm soon; she's barely over 60. [15:32] my psychiatrist always tells me that, it helps to think out loud [15:32] rob0: i'd be in attica at the beginning of the third generation...cause there *wouldn't* be a 3rd generation [15:32] ugh.. I told my mom not to expect any grandkids from me.. geez [15:32] rob0: /dev/wife needs to hook me up with /dev/second_cousin/once_removed [15:32] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. 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[16:28] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:29] chopp (~chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:29] lambdatronic (~user@132.198.166.49) joined ##slackware. [16:29] Nick change: choppernator -> chopp [16:29] howdy folks [16:31] I'm having a bit of trouble with libungif.so.4 not being found on a server running Slack64-current. It's clearly installed, shows up in the file tree and pkgtool, and is shown by '/sbin/ldconfig -v'. But for whatever reason, a program I just compiled on this machine (GRASS-6.4.0) is failing to find it hard. [16:32] libungif has been replaced by giflib [16:34] Yes, I know. I saw that in the Changelog. However, there is still a /usr/lib64/libungif.so{,.4} in my file tree, which is a link to libgif.so.4. [16:34] Urugami (~KB5YRZ@186.sub-97-199-250.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [16:35] i dont think there should be. my 32bit one doesnt have it [16:35] And "/sbin/ldconfig -v | grep gif" returns "libgif.so.4 -> libungif.so.4" [16:35] hmm... [16:35] do you think this could be an automated upgrade problem? As in, there might be an old symlink from a previous slackware package that wasn't removed properly by pkgtool? [16:36] doubt it, but not entirely sure [16:37] Action: lambdatronic smacks forehead [16:37] it should be easy to figure it out. see the doinst.sh's you have installed [16:37] yup, I'm all over it. [16:38] it looks like manual intervention to me, but like i said before, im not sure [16:38] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) joined ##slackware. [16:38] I didn't do this, and I set up all three of my machines running slackware64-current [16:38] I think I may have discovered the problem though. and yeah, I was thinking about the doinst.sh with regards to giflib. [16:39] from the changgelog its obvious that giflib didnt get any upgrades so what you got is what you had in the first place [16:40] lol [16:40] ( cd usr/lib64 ; rm -rf libgif.so.4 ) [16:40] ( cd usr/lib64 ; ln -sf libgif.so.4.1.6 libgif.so.4 ) [16:40] ( cd usr/lib64 ; rm -rf libgif.so ) [16:40] Channel flood from lambdatronic -- kicking [16:40] ( cd usr/lib64 ; ln -sf libgif.so.4.1.6 libgif.so ) [16:40] lambdatronic kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [16:40] LoL [16:40] yeah i saw that too just now [16:40] lambdatronic (~user@132.198.166.49) joined ##slackware. [16:40] argh [16:40] lambdatronic: yeah i saw that too just now [16:40] should've sent that to the pastebin [16:41] ok, so giflib did make those links (as expected), and I just figured out my problem. [16:41] it was a bit subtle. [16:42] I had made a Slackbuild for GRASS-6.4.0 and built a slackware package on my laptop. [16:42] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.72.230) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:42] This installed and worked fine. Then I transferred it to my slackware server and installed it, and suddenly the program didn't work due to a missing libungif. [16:43] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:43] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [16:43] weird tho. i dont have a symlink [16:43] well, the libungif/giflib settings are the same on both machines, so this was really hanging me up. I rebuilt the GRASS package using the Slackbuild on the server, and I got the same negative results. [16:43] interesting. I've got one, and the doinst.sh clearly shows that I'm supposed to. [16:43] maybe they only did it with the 64-bit package. [16:44] Have you checked the 32-bin doinst.sh? [16:44] neither a libgif.so file. just .la [16:44] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [16:44] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:44] Huh, strange. [16:45] pnq (asdf@ACA29060.ipt.aol.com) joined ##slackware. [16:45] Well, I've been trying to figure this silly missing library out for the past 30 mins or so, since both machines are running slack-current and are totally up to date. Then, I just found out the monkey-wrench. [16:45] GRASS depends on several other libraries to work, some of which I had installed from Slackbuilds.org [16:46] Apparently, the library that was hanging GRASS up was PROJ (or possible GDAL using PROJ), which are both dependencies of GRASS. [16:46] I had built them on my server several months ago, and only just built them on my laptop today. So that was the incongruency. [16:47] Even though there was no upgrade to either the GDAL or PROJ packages on slackbuilds.org, I had to rebuild both of them so that they would link to Slack's giflib instead of libungif. [16:47] That solved the problem. Whew! [16:47] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:48] okay, thanks for the sympathetic ear. Back to hacking the good hack! Slack on! [16:48] lambdatronic (user@132.198.166.49) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [16:48] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:49] =P [16:49] hmm wtf dont i have a libgif.so?! [16:49] phrag: howdy [16:51] eXile_ (~exile@S0106000c6ed275c1.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: [16:53] pnq (asdf@ACA29060.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:53] i reinstalled giflib. i dont have a libgif.so now either [16:54] Roin (~florian@p5B2BBD02.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya all o/ [16:55] can anyone check on 32bit? [16:55] someone even [16:58] Action: xsamurai watches the tumbleweed roll by [16:59] sahko: is your giflib a custom pkg or from slackware ? [16:59] motaro (~ricardori@190.166.53.184) joined ##slackware. [16:59] Good day everyone! [16:59] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:02] from Slackware. actually i do have the file. it just couldnt be autocompleted [17:02] Someone made me a question, that I had no answer for it. In what could you set up a Linux partition to keep history of files whenever they are changed [17:02] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [17:03] dafydd (~dafydd@d173-183-148-219.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [17:03] motaro: do you mean track changes for an application related files or for the OS itself ? [17:04] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-188.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:04] motaro , inotify can be used to track those changes. [17:04] So for example lets say I have a file called "myFile.txt" and some other day I open the file make a few changes and save it. Effectively overwriting the file, and being able to bring back the previous version of the file without much of a hassle. [17:05] ke7xt (~user@a-129-196-226-166.ext.fluke.com) joined ##slackware. [17:05] motaro: version control [17:05] if its a project or an application i would use version control, svn , hg, git [17:06] I was thinking on the OS level. [17:06] filesystem level? [17:06] yeap [17:06] This person was telling me Netware 4.0 does that! [17:06] i doubt that would work for individual files [17:07] you'd have snapshots of certain points in time probably [17:07] zfs would do that, but then you'd need freebsd or solaris [17:07] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [17:07] rdiff-backup is another option [17:07] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:07] netware==unixware [17:08] i don't know of anything that will back up every single change made without having all of the files under version contro [17:08] +l [17:08] motaro: i would prefer to use a vm on a full os base with lvm + rdiff-backup [17:09] motaro: too bad SCO is a bitch...that would be a great product to continue developing [17:09] you can use xen or kvm [17:09] hmm [17:09] SCO _was_ a bitch :) Now she's toast [17:09] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:10] alisonken1home: didn't UNIXware revert back to novell? [17:10] still being decided by the bankruptcy courts [17:10] how long can you go, being bankrupt, really? [17:10] alisonken1home: that would be a great new release to see [17:10] http://www.groklaw.net for the latest news [17:11] alisonken1home: iirc, a federal judge ruled that novell retained ownership of the unix trademark and the unix codebase [17:11] ke7xt (user@a-129-196-226-166.ext.fluke.com) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [17:12] actually, the court ruled that SCO did NOT get them - not that Novell has them - I believe The Open Group has the trademark [17:12] Unix that is [17:12] motaro: sounds like you are describing Mac TimeMachine. There's a project called "timevault" that is supposed to replicate the capability. Never tried it meself. [17:13] the Unix ownership is still shakey due to the original AT&T distribution model for universities and the BSD settlement [17:13] alisonken1home: ok...i know that novell sold its UnixWare to SCO before old sco folded and sold its assets to new sco [17:13] Yes you would say so right, although I think is well possible to be implemented on the filesystem [17:13] the history of course only works when I file gets closed. [17:14] jewbacca, not quite - it's a lot more complicated than that [17:14] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-205-200.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:14] alisonken1home: or, at least licensed NetWare to be incorporated into UnixWare [17:14] SCO bought the right to develop unixware [17:15] but now that there's no SCO, couldn't Novell easily integrate netware's featureset into SuSe? [17:16] that would depend on the terms of their agreement [17:16] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) joined ##slackware. [17:16] depends on the development team they put together and the commitment [17:17] zaltekk: wouldn't the agreement be null and void when the company ceased to exist? [17:17] nope, it would be assigned to successor[s] [17:17] jewbacca: not exactly. the contract could state what happens in that situation [17:17] or give them the option to pass it to someone else [17:18] or sell it [17:18] it just depends [17:19] rob0: and if there are no successors? [17:19] they could possibly sell their contract to another company to help cut their losses [17:20] Isn't it in bankruptcy? The bankruptcy court assigns successors. [17:20] Anything considered an asset is going to be assigned. 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[18:31] Gatto (~Romeo~@host128-65-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Gatto [18:31] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:33] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [18:33] of? [18:33] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [18:34] His mother from prison? [18:34] firefox 3.6.4 ? [18:35] same thing [18:35] pcastle (~pcastle@166.205.139.205) joined ##slackware. [18:35] mine proposed updating too [18:35] slava_dp, [18:35] not sure what 3.6.4 would bring [18:35] you pinged me other day [18:36] brb [18:36] Coolmax (~mateusz@ip-94-42-56-49.multimo.pl) left irc: Quit: zabawa :) [18:36] dive, yeah, the perl template got updated with the second way of installation... you might want to integrate that in mkslask :) [18:37] mkslack, sorry [18:37] Action: XGizzmo prefers the fisrt way. [18:37] pnq (asdf@AC843A41.ipt.aol.com) joined ##slackware. [18:38] XGizzmo, at least we know both and can use them. [18:38] slava_dp, yeah I updated the perl template [18:38] yeah its good to have options [18:39] slava_dp, if you mean the build.pl bits? [18:39] XGizzmo, I posted mandir correction to the ml for the Build.PL way, didn't get merged though. do you know why? [18:39] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [18:39] dive, great. [18:39] slava_dp: lack of time [18:39] slava_dp, I added those mandir lines to the template anyway [18:40] dive, awesome :) [18:40] and I seem to recall that the templates differ in the lines that handle the strip code iirc [18:40] slava_dp: Right now it is takeing everything we got to keep pending under 50 [18:40] dive, mkslack saved my life, I've packaged all the needed modules using it. [18:40] need to check on that again, but I combined them. [18:40] nice :) [18:41] slava_dp: zoneminder? [18:41] XGizzmo, yeah, I'll submit tomorrow, it's 15 packages. [18:41] good thing perl modules are easy to vet [18:42] the modules are ready, I'm polishing zoneminder with some additional stuff now. [18:43] should be usable :) [18:43] best to check in a pure stock system to test [18:43] It seems to have a fairly high demand. [18:43] that's what I'm doing actually. slackware64 even. [18:44] yeah, ff 3.6.4 [18:45] pcastle (~pcastle@166.205.139.205) left irc: Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi [18:45] i was surprised there was no seamonkey u/g though - those usually come in pairs [18:45] mancha, I recall that issue I had with libpng-1.2 was with libAfterImage+urxvt - didn't like the new libpng and had to be recompiled (but of course it compiled against 1.4 then) [18:47] dive that makes no sense to me [18:47] I thought it was strange. [18:47] i think it was user error, [18:48] how? [18:48] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:48] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [18:48] how what? you've not explained the problem, merely mentioned some apps. [18:48] i have no idea how you messed things up. [18:48] I compiled libafterimage on 13.0 against libpng 1.2 and after upgrade to 13.1 with supposedly same libpng 1.2 it failed. [18:49] same ABI we were talking about. [18:49] then you screwed up [18:49] I didn't recompile urxvt for 13.1 [18:49] raela, do you use a png icon? [18:49] er, libafterimage or rxvt [18:49] I didn't know it did icons [18:50] urxvt itself worked but not with a png icon [18:50] ah okay [18:50] Pat still provides libpng1.2 with the package, I think [18:50] until I rcompiled against libpng in 13.1 [18:50] thrice`, yes [18:50] i have no idea how you screwed up with those sketchy details. but if the abi didn't change nor did the library locations then it won't break. [18:50] but what I'm saying is that libafterimage needed recompiling after upgrade [18:51] and supposedly it shouldn't need to be [18:51] Razec (~razec@187.34.21.209) joined ##slackware. [18:51] according to some [18:51] you made a wilder claim the other day though. basically your claim was that libpng was not backwards compatible within minors [18:51] and this is just nonsense [18:52] well maybe [18:52] why do you keep brining it up every day i join this channel? [18:52] but I know the minor change [18:52] do you think repeating it will make it true? [18:52] mancha, what? [18:52] do you think repeating it will make it true? [18:52] every day? [18:53] bah nevermind, it's not worth it. [18:53] this is the first time we talked about it since then [18:53] libpng is backwards compat within minors unless you can prove otherwise. [18:53] well neverminds [18:53] well there was an abi change by mistake and the libpng guys reimplamented the missing function as a macro. so that caused many things to have to be recompiled that should not have to be recompiled. [18:53] -s [18:54] well that explains it [18:54] XGizzmo, thanks for clearing that up. Now I know I'm not cracking up. [18:56] XGizzmo do you have a link to that? [18:57] hey everyone who likes free software should also like free music take a look at ratholeradio.com it's a podcast where only creative commons music is played. Nearly every kind of music is presented to the audiance. \me likes it allready [18:57] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@2800:68:c:1401:21f:3bff:fe4a:cccd) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:00] http://png.cybermirror.org/libpng.html [19:02] i see no mention of 1.2.x breakage [19:05] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [19:05] alphad (~alphad@41.66.6.172) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:05] lf4 (~KJR@174-126-66-255.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:05] lf4 (~KJR@174-126-66-255.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Changing host [19:05] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) joined ##slackware. [19:08] hmm vlc 1.1.0 slack pkg from the vlc site points to slackware.com and a uk site... any idea why the pkg64s for 13.1 from both sites differ? [19:08] i don't think slackware.com has vlc packages,. does it? [19:08] alienBOB has them [19:08] mancha, not the last time I checked [19:08] http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-slackware.html [19:08] vlc would be at alien's site in the uk [19:09] flrichar, I would get them direct from alienBOB if I were you [19:09] the md5sums are different [19:09] aha, ok, alien's hosting it in his personal dir on slackware.com [19:09] the md5 files are different [19:09] ok confusing... [19:09] ok it links there it seems [19:10] I'm sure he has them on his other site too [19:10] http://www.heise.de/newsticker/heise-atom.xml [19:10] lol [19:10] flrichar, there might be an issue with one build not having things that are patent problems in the u.s. [19:10] slackware.com is a u.s. based machine i think. [19:10] aah [19:10] just guessing here though... [19:10] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:11] m3tti, those links would be better in a german channel, not an english channe; [19:11] oh shit wrong [19:11] XD [19:11] Herman (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:11] yeah it seems his package from his wiki lead to slackware.com [19:12] slackware.com is hosted in concord, CA, USA [19:12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC3IryWr4c8 <- i wanted to post this one [19:12] its amazing [19:17] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:25] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) joined ##slackware. [19:25] neonflux_ (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [19:26] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [19:26] hey guys [19:26] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:33] say anyone know if the slackbuild that Pat has for Firefox 3.6.3 would be ok for FF 3.6.4? [19:33] http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/source/xap/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox.SlackBuild [19:34] tias ? [19:34] cause 3.6.4 is out and I'd like to compile and use that since Pat doesn't have it out yet [19:34] Xgates: most likely [19:34] best way to know is to try the slaskbuild [19:35] Xgates, chown -R xgates:users /usr/lib/firefox* <-- welcome to auto-updates ;-) [19:35] hmm thing is there are two patches I wonder if 3.6.4 also needs? [19:35] #zcat $CWD/mozilla-firefox-mimeTypes-fix.diff.gz | patch -p1 --verbose --suffix=.orig || exit 1 [19:35] zcat $CWD/firefox.moz_plugin_path.diff.gz | patch -p1 --verbose --suffix=.orig || exit 1 [19:36] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401074458] [19:37] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [19:37] slava_dp: well thing is I like to typically have apps compiled for my box, so I'm not sure what the FF updates are compiled against... [19:37] try to patch FF 3.6.4 first, if the patches work then run the slackbuild with FF 3.6.4 [19:37] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:38] well a patch can still work even though you don't need it.... [19:39] so would be nice to know what they're for and if possibly it's something not needed in 3.6.4 [19:39] try to figure out what the patch is for [19:39] so, look at them [19:39] the patch wont burn your eyes [19:40] ;p [19:41] ahh here's firefox.moz_plugin_path.diff: http://pastebin.com/7xftFHLY [19:41] that looks needed :) [19:41] I would bet money that one is needed [19:42] not needed, but can still be used [19:42] Pat changes the path for plugins in teh wrapper so that seamonkey can use them too, or so [19:42] thrice`: ahh so just leave that one out? [19:43] no, you can use it still [19:43] no you want that one. [19:43] ok [19:43] k [19:43] dafydd (~dafydd@d173-183-148-219.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:43] you don't think that 'plugin_path' might give a hint? [19:43] mozilla-firefox-mimeTypes-fix.diff : http://pastebin.com/3n8rRT0Q [19:43] that I really don't know.... [19:44] oooh something to do with fixing mimetypes maybe? [19:44] just got HBO [19:44] bbl [19:45] cya jewbacca [19:46] gh0st (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:46] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [19:48] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Necrosporus [19:50] I think that one just fixes it so when you click a mail link it launches a mail app. [19:50] jonsmith1982 (~jon@78.145.113.67) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:52] the patches work and they're good to apply [19:53] one changes a path and the other adds some basic mimetypes to associate to slackware default apps. [19:53] bohunm (~mbohun@202.124.74.141) joined ##slackware. [19:54] you might have to edit a version number in one of the patches... [19:55] bgeddy (~bgeddy@91.84.218.129) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:56] Nick change: dive -> evid [19:58] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:05] m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7C98E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:10] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [20:10] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:11] why the hell does pilot-link *require* bluez? [20:11] bgeddy (~bgeddy@91.84.218.129) joined ##slackware. [20:11] i don't even know what those are [20:12] Skywise: both are part of slackware-proper [20:12] bluez is a bluetooth lib [20:12] yeah, i only use irregular out of the discount bin [20:12] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [20:12] oh geez [20:12] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [20:12] pilot-link is a set of palm tools [20:12] cool [20:12] sking (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:13] i still use my palm alot [20:13] its a IIIc [20:13] Skywise: i got a couple of Vx's [20:13] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:14] but i've had it for ever and it has a serial port, so i can hook it up to the diagnostic port of my car and data log and clear errors [20:14] Skywise: yeah' [20:14] Skywise: this one is serial too [20:14] Skywise: you picked up any wifi or modem for it? [20:15] jewbacca, no, i hadn't thought anything new had been developed for it [20:15] i still use a serial cradle to dock with [20:16] Xgates (~Xgates@udp116220uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] Skywise: that isn't new, per se [20:17] jewbacca, i even use it for my grocery list [20:17] Skywise: yeah, same here [20:17] Skywise: i'd like to find away to do a mail-link? [20:17] jewbacca, the gf can update the list over the network and then i go get it and don't have to wait for her to browse everything [20:17] say in the Slackbuild Pat has I changed it from a bunzip to tar since the Mozilla source is listed with .source in the name, but now the slackbuild is looking for only part of the name: [20:17] tar: /home/sar/Downloads/ff/firefox-3.6.tar: Cannot open: No such file or directory [20:18] This is what I have now: [20:18] VERSION=$(ls firefox-*.tar | cut -d - -f 2 | rev | cut -f 3- -d . | rev) [20:18] maybe mozilla-firefox ? [20:18] tar xvf $CWD/firefox-$VERSION.tar || exit 1 [20:18] that new auto-version thing is kinda retarded [20:19] King_Ozzy (~King_Ozzy@75.102.128.12) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:19] this is the tar I have now: firefox-3.6.4.tar so I don't get why with those cmds it's only looking for firefox-3.6.tar [20:20] the command looks OK :/ just change it to 3.6.4 if you want [20:20] jewbacca, i don't know if the desktop can do it, but i know there are export/import filters that can work [20:20] jewbacca, my datalogging app automatically saves my logs as excel spreadsheets when i save them, i don't see why email couldn't be done the same way [20:21] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:21] jewbacca, i don't think it could do pop/imap but it should be able to trigger a client [20:22] yeah but none of the $VERSION lines are working I'm going to have to change all of them, I don't get that [20:22] hmmm [20:23] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:23] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[20:32] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:32] sheesh [20:33] if thats what you want, just compile it yourself [20:33] Xgates, on 32-bit? since FF was added to slack [20:33] your missing the point from what I recall Slackware is always about compiling a slackbuild from source when it's available and never just building a package from a binary, such as in this case.... [20:34] yeah, i never got that point [20:34] yeah 32bit [20:34] maybe I'm not remembering maybe Pat has always done this but I thought he didn't.... [20:34] Damn, nobody was supposed to tell Xgates about this. [20:35] lol [20:35] well I've been away from Slack for a while, all I know is I used to compiled FF myself when I ran it before [20:36] Xgates, the point on 32 bits was to keep the firefox name. the only option iirc was/is to use mozilla's build. [20:37] I don't know why it would be considered the only option since you can get the source [20:37] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:38] Since I use Slack I'd go with Pat's building over Mozilla any day and would rather have Pat build us a pack from source [20:38] he does on 64-bit [20:39] are some people here close to Pat that can talk to him about considering changing his mind for whatever reason and compile it for 32bit too [20:39] nachox (~Ignacio@28-73-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [20:42] you can email the list [20:42] well maybe we can all SWEET talk alienBOB into making us a nice slackbuild so we can compile it from source :) [20:42] Xgates, can't you use one from slackware64? [20:43] I had a Slackbuild going back a few years but don't have that anymore, not sure I could build off of it anyhow with some changes.... [20:43] until ff runs in cli mode i don't have much need [20:43] you're so eleet Skywise [20:43] slava_dp: ahhh good point let me look at it and see what's in it thanks [20:43] dude, totally [20:43] Skywise: LOL [20:43] What do you expect this 32-bit rebuild to accomplish? [20:43] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] Action: adaptr rebuilds rob0 in 42-bits [20:43] hey I'm only running OpenBox I feel pretty leet but I do like a bit of the ole GUI [20:44] Pat's building ? did he get a stadium ? [20:45] It's not a stadium, it's a Slackwarehouse. [20:46] ok so here's the x64 build [20:46] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.107) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:46] http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware64-13.1/source/xap/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox.SlackBuild [20:46] this is what I don't remember ---> NUMJOBS=${NUMJOBS:-" -j7 "} [20:46] isn't that like a compiler flag? [20:46] See -j in the make(1) man page. [20:47] ahhh ok I remeber the number of jobs running [20:48] well I'd imagine the x64 build should just be fine for the 32bit source [20:51] check the lib suffix [20:51] and the arch [20:57] slava_dp: well I'm compiling with the x64 one it looks ok, so far so good [20:59] rob0: well it has what are the standard Arch flags in it for other archs: [20:59] http://pastebin.com/dSrkNT1r [21:00] the /lib in there is standard: [21:00] --libdir=/usr/lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX} \ [21:00] --with-default-mozilla-five-home=/usr/lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX}/firefox-$VERSION \ [21:00] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:00] motaro (~ricardori@190.166.53.184) left irc: Quit: motaro [21:00] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-170-244.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [21:01] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [21:02] I did make one change I don't need ---> --disable-xinerama [21:02] no multi monitors here [21:03] I personally don't get what xinerama has to do with a browser since I thought this was strictly support from X [21:04] your world is in all sorts of turmoil [21:05] no turmoil here, not sure what gave you that idea [21:05] hehe ;p [21:05] vldmr (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [21:06] X:::)))) [21:06] I just think that Slackers happy to accept a binary blob from somewhere even if it is from Mozilla have lost their way [21:06] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:06] hi everyguys !! [21:06] everything for Slack should be done internally [21:06] hi jewbacca X:PPP [21:07] blaines (~blaines@75-171-71-26.phnx.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [21:08] blaines (~blaines@75-171-71-26.phnx.qwest.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [21:09] blaines (~blaines@75-171-71-26.phnx.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:26] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:29] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:29] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [21:30] neonflux_ (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:31] so good, so bad [21:31] hi, o/ [21:31] you killed the song [21:31] hello, er el_lobo--d-_-b [21:32] do you know why mi second core always start in 2GHz , the other one starts at 500MHz, and i didn't move nothing :P [21:32] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:32] nope, something to do with cpu_freq perhaps [21:34] it is on_demand, the "new" slack have a script in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules that load that "automagically" [21:34] yeah [21:34] using smp kernel? [21:35] actually have a look at where you echo on_demand to, you might need to echo it to cpu1 [21:35] echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor [21:35] grazymax (~grazymax@host2-96-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [21:38] jhmm, i never looked at that. [21:38] my laptop shows both cores at 800mhz and it wont change from dynamic [21:39] there's no reason to change from dynamic except for a few old games that expect a steady cpu frequency [21:39] evid: hehe, i was on it, but i see there that it try have a cpu*, but nevermind, im going to try with the copypaste [21:39] brb [21:40] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Quit: chao pajudos =P [21:40] vldmr (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:41] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [21:41] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:42] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] gh0st (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:43] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:43] :S the same thing [21:43] it starts at 2GHz and stay there :S [21:44] you don't need to reboot to test that [21:44] sedohrt (~tom@tuxaloosa.org) joined ##slackware. [21:44] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [21:44] sh rc.modules ? [21:45] cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor [21:45] mine says arnold [21:46] ondemand ondemand, but the second core is always at 2GHz :P [21:46] ondemand [21:46] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [21:46] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:47] and echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor [21:47] then cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq [21:47] jeev: sure you didn't mean /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governator ? :P [21:48] evid: the two are ondemand, but the second doesn't like it ?? haha [21:48] :> [21:48] cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq [21:48] ups [21:48] /bin/sh: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq: Permiso denegado [21:48] mmm [21:48] it's funny, we've had a repubichair in charge and they're running ads saying things like "we need a republican governor" [21:48] don't forget the 'cat' [21:49] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.86.39.153.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:50] evid: the two of them are ondemand, and the current scaling_cur_freq are 500000 2000000 [21:50] hmm [21:50] uname -a [21:50] Linux donjuan64 2.6.33.4 #2 SMP Wed May 12 22:31:33 CDT 2010 x86_64 AMD Turion(tm) X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-70 AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux [21:51] figabo (~figabo@201.165.128.162) joined ##slackware. [21:51] looks like a kernel/chipset/acpi bug then [21:51] :'( [21:51] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] woh3 (will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488F894.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] you could have a look on kernel.org to see if there are issues, maybe ask in #kernel (although they will likely tell you to try a newer kernel) [21:53] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:53] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:53] evid: ok thanks :) [21:53] np, good luck [21:55] hmm #2? [21:55] recompiled kernel I wonder? [21:55] goj (~goj@p4FE6BDF1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:55] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:56] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.26.30) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:58] neonflux_ (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [21:58] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.27.221) joined ##slackware. [21:59] http://tinyurl.com/2g5ddgj [22:01] that guy is a douchebag [22:01] i hope dick cheney friendly fires him [22:02] asamoah (~caio@190.244.49.108) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:03] WoOT build done ---> Slackware package /tmp/mozilla-firefox-3.6.4-i486-1.txz created. [22:04] heh [22:04] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] what are some good reasons for needing the seamonkey pack? [22:05] nostalgia. 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[23:24] Nick change: jones -> tekzilla [23:26] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210074250.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [23:26] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210074250.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Changing host [23:26] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:35] |Slacker| (~tanis@201.86.39.153.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:35] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:38] I can't figure out how to get my other drives in Thunar on the left side where my folders are ? can i install Nautilus without having Gnome installed or Libraries ? [23:38] or is there an easy way to do this [23:42] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt2-port-45.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] rapid (~Rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [23:45] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-207-68-51-191.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] heya,folks [23:46] sup BinLanden [23:47] sup,askjeev [23:47] :> [23:48] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:49] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [23:51] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:52] how is everyone tonight? [23:52] v3gard (~v3gard@v3gard.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:53] doin' good thanks and you,Grifulkin? [23:53] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:ee7b:aeab:c722) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:54] pretty good, just restarted in Slack64 to mess with it. [23:54] cool [23:55] nader (~nader@85.133.204.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:56] v3gard (~v3gard@v3gard.com) joined ##slackware. [23:56] yup I got on here last night and completely changed the theme [23:57] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:57] nader (~nader@85.133.204.2) joined ##slackware. [23:57] Grifulkin, theme of the convo or your theme to your desktop? [23:58] Oh my desktop, I didn't specify [23:58] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f718:aeab:c722) joined ##slackware. [23:59] Grifulkin, qt or gtk? [00:00] --- Wed Jun 23 2010