[00:00] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:00] i_is_broke: I am always happy to help [00:01] is there any particular topics that a beginning slackware user should focus on learning immediately? [00:01] it's midnight, I'm out.. enjoy everyone [00:01] goodnight [00:01] night mfillpot [00:01] ugh, slack is now on 6 disks...grrr. [00:01] later ,mfillpot [00:02] i_is_broke: do a usb install from the web, save the disks [00:02] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [00:02] anyone know what hes talking about and where i can find it? [00:02] always good to have at least one install disk for emergencies [00:02] alien bob [00:03] has a script for it [00:03] and can i do that with virtual box? [00:03] i'll look for the site [00:03] for you [00:03] amason6, ty very much [00:03] i really need to re read the slack boot. [00:03] book too..sheesh [00:03] i_is_broke: if you don't use a firewall appliance,iptables [00:04] Oleg_ (n=you@pool-173-68-243-62.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:04] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/ [00:04] Intel[R]VT-x_ (n=chatzill@124.43.96.95) joined ##slackware. [00:04] Hi I have typical security problem: suppose the /tmp owners is a root which have the permisiions to write and I want to download something into the /tmp through the Ktorrent. How I can grant the priv to this program for this one a time ? [00:04] i_is_broke it should be called usbinstall or something like that [00:05] amason6, ya i found it thanks... [00:05] no problem [00:05] z3r0_k00l75 (n=zero@pool-96-249-84-15.chrlwv.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] i can put all of that on my 8 gig flash drive and just boot from it..yeah..:D [00:06] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/sanzilla) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [00:06] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.43.251) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:07] paul424: everyone should already have permission to write to /tmp [00:08] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [00:08] nooper ok thx [00:08] Nick change: Intel[R]VT-x_ -> Intel[R]VT-x [00:08] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [00:09] nyRednek (n=yosi@24.168.60.60) joined ##slackware. [00:10] crudo (n=0xdead@187.78.98.224) left irc: "Leaving." 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[00:25] night,folks...talk with all later..:D [00:26] MLanden (n=lilslack@pool-141-152-142-94.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [00:26] mf_1 (n=notatrol@pool-173-70-27-179.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] _MaggoT_ (n=NewBie@125.166.95.69) joined ##slackware. [00:27] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:27] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [00:28] Oleg_ (n=you@pool-173-68-243-62.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:28] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.155) joined ##slackware. [00:30] <_MaggoT_> hi all :) [00:32] FUCK :) [00:32] hi _MaggoT_ [00:32] crap, I put the smiley on the wrong line >< [00:33] <_MaggoT_> lol [00:33] <_MaggoT_> i think i will change my slackware 64 to 32 [00:33] why? [00:34] <_MaggoT_> compile some program on slackware 64 still make me stack [00:34] ? [00:35] <_MaggoT_> got many problem when compile 32 program on my slackware 64 [00:35] such as? [00:35] <_MaggoT_> wine [00:36] Action: Camarade_Tux needs wine32 on his slackware64, will see later today [00:36] _MaggoT_: have you installed the 32bit compatiblity packages? [00:36] <_MaggoT_> yes [00:36] <_MaggoT_> from alien bob [00:36] but that's cross-compilation and cross-compilation can always easily fail [00:37] _MaggoT_: did you use the wine.SlackBuild? [00:37] <_MaggoT_> yes i download from slackbuild.org [00:37] cricket[b] (i=cricket@ip98-164-87-51.no.no.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:37] what's the error you get? [00:38] <_MaggoT_> when configure gcc my comp freeze [00:38] Action: BP{k} doubt that is really a problem with wine. [00:39] <_MaggoT_> i need wine for running my game because im farmer on game :p [00:39] _MaggoT_: regardless, I doubt that is a problem with wine. [00:40] <_MaggoT_> or maybe im do something wrong when configure or when install 32bit compatiblity packages [00:40] ezr (n=jpb@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) left irc: "leaving" [00:40] <_MaggoT_> because this my first time use Linux [00:41] your machine shouldn't *freeze* [00:41] you need a hard reboot? [00:41] <_MaggoT_> yes [00:41] <_MaggoT_> i cannot do anything when my comp freeze [00:41] phoenix^: ping. [00:42] BP{k}: pong [00:42] <_MaggoT_> move my mouse also cannot [00:42] do you know what the last line of the configure is? [00:42] phoenix^: installing alien's 32bit packages which /etc/rc.d/* were 0 bytes do you remember? [00:42] rc.messagebus, rc.hald, and rc.mysqld [00:42] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:43] Action: Camarade_Tux saw that on alien's blog on yesterday [00:43] but I don't get why it'd happen only when configuring [00:43] <_MaggoT_> first time im do chmod +x wine.Slackbuild, then . /etc/profile.d/32dev.sh [00:43] <_MaggoT_> after that ./wine.Slackbuild [00:43] <_MaggoT_> after that my comp freeze [00:44] hmm I am wondering if running "bash -x ./wine.SlackBuild 2>&1 | tee BUILD.log" would be usefull [00:45] <_MaggoT_> 2 giga ram for slackware 64 is enough? [00:45] yosi_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:45] _MaggoT_: sure. [00:45] you'd probably rather want to send that over the network actually [00:45] nyRednek (n=yosi@24.168.60.60) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [00:45] Nick change: yosi_ -> nyRednek [00:45] _MaggoT_: I'm running with 2GB [00:46] Camarade_Tux: don't do that. [00:46] damn xfce...let me come back in irssi [00:46] Camarade_Tux: stick the 2GB in your computer ;) [00:46] BP{k}: ^^ [00:46] Camarade_Tux: i'm not designing new things though [00:46] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:47] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:47] spook: I was on yesterday and I wished I had waited for 20 minutes before drinking :P [00:47] wasn't much, only a beer but that was enough to be annoying [00:47] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:47] s/I was on/I was, on/ [00:48] Action: hitest is enjoying his 3rd glass of wine:) [00:48] ok, me be back [00:48] Action: Camarade_Tux is having a bowl of cereals :p [00:48] lol [00:48] it's like 6:48am :) [00:48] ah [00:48] s/:)/:grrrrrrr:/ [00:48] ok, having a problem getting an xterm(or any term on slack) to display hebrew [00:48] Camarade_Tux: you're a lightweight [00:48] anyone have a clue where to start? [00:48] it is almost 10 pm over here [00:49] its 1pm here, i just woke up [00:49] almost 0100 here [00:49] spook: not at all actually, it was annoying only because I had to think and was already tired (it added to it) [00:50] nyRednek: have you tried other languages/character set? hebrew is right-to-left iirc, that may be an additional problem [00:51] Action: Camarade_Tux never tried to display hebrew or any other rtl [00:51] oops67 (n=scrappyc@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:51] nyRednek: also, runnning uxterm? [00:51] and what font? [00:51] Camarade_Tux: miriam mono [00:52] Camarade_Tux: still makes a lightweight [00:52] Camarade_Tux: haven't tried uxterm [00:52] let me see [00:53] spook: then most people are ultralightweight ;) [00:53] Camarade_Tux: yup! [00:53] I can drink liters of beer without problem [00:53] works like a charm in uxterm [00:53] nyRednek: :) [00:53] and, i think it just strangely fixed on xterm [00:53] he :P [00:53] no, that was wishful thinking [00:53] ^^ [00:53] but it definitely works on uxterm [00:54] Action: Camarade_Tux is going to stop smiley-only messages [00:54] cool... [00:54] Camarade_Tux: i get a good buzz from about 2 litres [00:54] great then :) [00:54] let me adjust a few scripts [00:54] and i'll brb [00:54] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) joined ##slackware. [00:54] spook: the main component for me is usually tiredness [00:55] if I'm not tired, 1-2L makes nothing on me [00:55] spook: btw, how strong are your beers usually? [00:55] dunno, full strength [00:56] maybe like 8% or something [00:56] hmmm [00:56] ok, same here [00:56] when you load it -ls it doesn't support it [00:56] or maybe that's irssi [00:57] nyRednek: what do you mean with "doesn't support it" [00:57] it brings up hebrew chars as ??? [00:58] it's irssi [00:58] it isn't uxterm [00:58] nyRednek: how's your encoding? [00:59] i_is_broke (n=scrappyc@98.212.246.217) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:59] and does miriam mono support other character sets? like é à ? [00:59] Camarade_Tux: miriam mono is designed for hebrew [00:59] but i didn't explicitly load that font [00:59] maybe that's my screwup [01:00] nyRednek: is irssi set to utf-8 encoding? [01:00] Camarade_Tux: not yet...how to do that? [01:01] Camarade_Tux: also, how to do that with alpine? [01:01] try: /set term_charset utf-8 [01:01] but you also need your locale to be set accordingly [01:01] nyRednek: alpine, no idea [01:02] and how do you change locale's? [01:02] i'm not used to doing this [01:02] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:03] try runnning irssi that way: LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 irssi [01:03] ok, brb [01:03] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:04] I had something else to say but forgot it [01:04] Mr__S (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:04] oh, do i need to do that to screen? [01:04] i use screen to load my stuff [01:05] set screenrc for utf8 too [01:05] works here without but that may be better [01:07] <_MaggoT_> i think i will try Alien Bob's wine 64 package [01:08] there's no wine64 [01:08] wine64 can't run 32bit apps [01:08] <_MaggoT_> hmm [01:08] <_MaggoT_> my game can run at 64 / 32 bit like wow game [01:09] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. 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[01:15] vastina (n=perplexe@benchmarkmanagement.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:15] _MaggoT_: well, nice, don't forget to report your experience :) [01:15] Camarade_Tux: not quite working [01:16] Camarade_Tux: i'm getting black chars for hebrew [01:16] nyRednek: have to go, sorry =/ [01:16] Camarade_Tux: it's cool [01:16] Camarade_Tux: i'll look it up somewhere [01:16] <_MaggoT_> Camarade_Tux : ok [01:16] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.38.238) joined ##slackware. [01:17] do you have the right fonts? [01:18] mancha: slack comes with terminal fonts hebrew [01:20] what's it called? [01:21] heb8x13 [01:21] heb6x13 [01:21] brb [01:21] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: "just to eat" [01:23] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:28] <_MaggoT_> ok bye all see u later when already at home [01:28] _MaggoT_ (n=NewBie@125.166.95.69) left irc: [01:29] not working out...getting flustered [01:29] i'm getting ???'s in xfce terminal [01:31] What font is xfce's terminal using? [01:31] also, is it any different without screen? [01:32] phoenix^: for now, it's using Monospace [01:32] That's why [01:32] try liberation sans mono [01:32] larger char set [01:33] or deja vu sans mono [01:33] I forget which one has the most chars. Liberation I think [01:33] same thing [01:33] liberation sans mono gives same results [01:33] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [01:34] what does the 'locale' command output for LANG? [01:34] Do you have utf set in /etc/profile.d/lang.sh ? [01:34] phoenix^: probably not, let me do that [01:34] nyRednek: There's a line in there for that, comment out the current one and uncomment the utf one. [01:34] then you will need to completely log out of X and all terminals and back in again [01:35] or do 'export LC_ALL=...' whatver locale you want [01:36] including my screen sessions? [01:36] yep [01:36] oy [01:36] ok, brb [01:36] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [01:37] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [01:37] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [01:37] bah, I guess I can't get Nvidia prop drivers in Fedora now until Nvidia releases an updated driver. :P [01:37] heh [01:38] and, prop drivers are apparently necessary for gnome-shell (i.e. what's becoming gnome 3) [01:38] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [01:38] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:38] at least in Fedora [01:38] it worked... [01:38] now to see if screen works [01:38] x11 driver no good? [01:39] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:39] nyRednek (n=yosi@24.168.60.60) joined ##slackware. [01:39] dive: Well, Fedora 12 uses kms for nvidia + the nouveau driver. [01:39] éÜÕÝ [01:40] it shows backwards, but better than not showing [01:40] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.252.177) joined ##slackware. [01:40] input method? [01:40] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-72-221.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [01:40] dive: ? [01:40] sould be an option for right -> left input method (if that is what that is used for) [01:41] dive: where to look for that option [01:41] xfce terminal? [01:42] dive: yeah [01:42] right click - input methods [01:42] there was no mention of rtl or bidi [01:43] 'ÕáÙ [01:43] still backwards [01:43] 'ÕáÙ [01:43] the x apps do it [01:43] maybe i should go back to that [01:44] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:45] is konsole any better? [01:46] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:46] dive: i'll look [01:47] i don't like loading kde4 due to my memory amount [01:49] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@24.168.60.60) joined ##slackware. [01:49] get more memory, it still uses less than vista [01:49] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:49] good night all.....sheesh I'm tired. too much wine:) [01:50] lightweight. [01:50] heh [01:50] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.192.56) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:51] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:52] nyRednek (n=yosi@24.168.60.60) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:52] Nick change: nyRednek_ -> nyRednek [01:52] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:52] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [01:53] same as in xfce terminal [01:53] nyRednek (n=yosi@24.168.60.60) left irc: Client Quit [01:53] nyRednek_ (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:54] nyRednek (n=yosi@24.168.60.60) joined ##slackware. [01:54] anyways...it displays hebrew chars, but backwards(logically correct, but not visually correct) [01:55] let's try uxterm again [01:56] éÜÕÝ [01:57] nope [01:57] i'm stuck without bidi [01:59] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:59] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:06] nyRednek: not sure if this is helpful but fwiw arch/gentoo wikis sometimes have info http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts [02:07] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. 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[02:58] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [02:58] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-52-144.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:59] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:59] morning [02:59] irssi doesnt work anymore :( [02:59] maybe you upgraded perl? [03:01] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [03:01] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) left irc: Client Quit [03:01] jhw (n=jhw@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [03:01] hrm [03:02] is there a perl update in -current? [03:02] grazymax (n=grazymax@host96-22-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:02] yes [03:02] so irssi prolly has @INC issues now, amirite? [03:03] Action: slackytude nods [03:03] y0 slackytude, how goes? [03:03] grazymax (n=grazymax@host59-154-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:03] y0 fire|bird [03:03] a) downgrade perl or b) make irssi yourself from source [03:03] fire|bird, all fine. altho comp didnt come back from hibernation [03:03] kowa (i=kowalczy@237-160.neasonline.no) joined ##slackware. [03:05] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-136-160.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:05] rtcg (n=rtcg@static-71-164-174-18.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [03:06] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." [03:06] kwikness (n=kwikness@c-24-128-93-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:07] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] kwikness (n=kwikness@c-24-128-93-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] kwikness (n=kwikness@c-24-128-93-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:11] fire|bird: y0 what's up? [03:11] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@209.121.157.169) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [03:11] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:12] hey mrselfpwn, not much, I installed Fedora on a spare drive I had. :P what's up with you? [03:12] kwikness (n=kwikness@c-24-128-93-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:13] I was going to try gnome 3 again, but I need Nvidia prop drivers on Fedora, which won't work atm because it's Fedora 12 Beta and so the drivers aren't compatible. :P [03:13] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:14] ahh, how is fedora? never tried it [03:14] It's alright, but it's no slack. I installed last night, there were 94 updates, I start it today, 40 updates. :P [03:14] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:14] welcome back slackytude :) [03:15] hey fire|bird, do you have any suggestion for a webcam program for maybe kde? [03:15] i'm helping a bud with slack and his webcam [03:16] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.ftslgt stop" [03:16] Ummm, I'm not aware if many cam apps, I don't have a cam myself, I know there's Cheese, but I think that's more a gnomish app and needs gnome deps, I'll look around a bit though, I'm sure there's something. [03:17] mrselfpwn: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/WebKam?content=76902 [03:17] something like that? [03:17] right, irssi is back again [03:17] yeah, thanks. wxcam worked fine on my pc with only xfce though his is giving some wierd stuff in kde and xfce. [03:17] thanks for the link [03:17] now, what was that comand to get compiz running [03:18] Intel[R]VT-x (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/sanzilla) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:18] aigon (n=ojof@92.82.73.194) left irc: "Leaving" [03:18] slackytude: just slackware's compiz or do you have SBo compiz stuff installed? [03:18] Nick change: oops67 -> change [03:18] Nick change: change -> oldude67 [03:18] sbo stuff [03:19] fusion-icon [03:19] except that [03:19] haha [03:19] axtroz (i=1000@77.78.15.16) left irc: "Leaving" [03:19] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:20] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-221.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:20] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.72.245) joined ##slackware. [03:22] lenin- (n=kinginno@ool-18baa233.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [03:23] kwikness (n=kwikness@c-24-128-93-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:23] kwikness (n=kwikness@c-24-128-93-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:24] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:24] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:26] hey [03:26] anyone want to see my first attempt at a slack64 logo for banner? [03:27] :) [03:27] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:27] slackytude: compiz --replace ccp [03:27] grazymax (n=grazymax@host59-154-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:27] fire|bird: heh, *now* you tell me [03:27] already working, but thx [03:27] irssi is back too [03:28] slackytude: I went to type it right after fusion-icon, but you left. :P [03:28] damnit [03:28] lol [03:28] mohaa (n=mohaa@188.115.65.155) left irc: Nick collision from services. [03:28] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [03:28] efz (i=1000@68-114-212-208.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) left irc: "brb" [03:29] with compiz enabled it will start rdp session in wrong screen [03:29] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:30] http://imagebin.org/68746 [03:30] mrselfpwn: Still messing with Sabayon a bit? I had thought about maybe installing that on the spare drive, instead of Fedora. :P [03:30] grazymax (n=grazymax@host30-48-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:31] i'd like at least one opinion(i know the frame isn't perfect [03:32] looks pretty cool redneck [03:32] kwikness, i got it from pat's boot bmp [03:32] good grief, enabling 3d sure borked my Ubuntu VM. :P [03:32] then remade it [03:33] rather, got the idea [03:33] i have the classic logo as my wallpaper [03:33] the one that comes up in lilo [03:33] i keeps it real [03:34] kwikness, i'm thinking of using that as a rubber stamp and stamping it at random locations, and rotating at random angles, and in random colors, to make a wallpaper [03:34] lenin- (n=kinginno@ool-18baa233.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: [03:35] moin [03:35] slackware64 logo ? [03:35] i think that would kick some serious ass [03:35] nickstolen, yeah [03:36] I just noticed your nick :P but I am confused [03:36] nickstolen, http://imagebin.org/68746 [03:36] NY redneck? is that like a Irish/Jewish mix ? [03:36] lol [03:37] i lived in arkansas [03:37] i ended up in nyc [03:37] i'm jewish [03:37] no biggie [03:37] Action: nickstolen even more confused now. [03:38] i'd like a logo like this as a t-shirt, done the way i mentioned to do the wallpaper [03:38] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [03:38] gah [03:38] alt + f2 doesnt work anymore with compiz [03:38] man [03:40] I seemed to remember slackware with a different logo type :/ can't figure out why. [03:41] nickstolen, you mean the seline felines stuff? "slackwars" [03:41] senile, even [03:42] nickstolen, or the pill? [03:42] what the hell is the rodent-looking mascot anyway? [03:42] its taz [03:43] kwikness, which one? oh, that's the kernel version thing, instead of tux, for one release, iirc [03:44] mmm THink was more the 8ball logo I remember [03:44] nickstolen, 8ball? [03:44] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:45] nickstolen, the one with the word slackware and the 8 ball? that was for release 8 [03:45] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] "slackwars" mmm don't recall that term. [03:47] check the propaganda site [03:47] nickstolen, http://www.slackware.com/grfx/shared/slackware_ambigram_logo.png [03:47] it looks like slackwars instead of slackware [03:48] a logo most don't like [03:48] na not that [03:49] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:49] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [03:49] Axius (n=fd@92.82.91.88) joined ##slackware. [03:50] sigh [03:50] Im just not happy with this slackware install [03:50] nickstolen, http://connie.slackware.com/~msimons/slackware/grfx/shared/slackball.jpg this one? [03:50] I think slackbox logo is what I am recalling. [03:50] nickstolen, or this? http://connie.slackware.com/~msimons/slackware/grfx/shared/bluepiSW.jpg [03:51] na the one with black/white background [03:52] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:53] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:54] slackytude, i feel your pain, i just had to format today because i split my HD into 3 partitions and started running out of room [03:55] kwikness: no fun [03:56] here its just not running as well [03:56] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-221.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:56] whacky issues, not matter what I do. I hardly need to touch my other slack installs but this one is just misbehaving [03:56] 13.0? [03:57] is /usr/local still preferred over /opt on slackware? [03:57] usr/local is not used. [03:57] nor is /opt, mostly [03:57] /usr/share [03:58] yes, 13.0 [03:58] grazymax_ (n=grazymax@host81-96-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:58] kwikness: lvm ^_^ [03:58] is there a way in xfce to have some apps or windows behave in a special way? like be maximized or borderless [03:59] grazymax (n=grazymax@host30-48-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:00] weird I thought KDE goes into /opt [04:01] nickstolen: not for quite some time. [04:02] so almost everything not in the base system goes into /usr/share now? [04:02] I think I told compiz to do rdesktop windows borderless [04:03] fck! [04:04] nickstolen: /usr/bin /usr/lib etc [04:04] nickstolen, it used to be in /opt at one time [04:05] working on a .fig of that logo...i think it'll be more useful that way [04:06] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:08] mm is Cmpiz like the new enlightment of the 80s or something ? [04:08] s/Cmpiz/Compiz/ [04:09] nbnds (n=nbnds@port-92-195-113-114.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: [04:10] how about this one? http://imagebin.org/68751 [04:11] nickstolen: its the cube thingy [04:12] phreak (n=phreak@pool-151-204-157-206.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:14] Does anyone know usually how long a slackbuild takes to be approved into the repository? [04:15] phreak: anywhere from a few days to a few weeks [04:15] phreak: also depends on how horribly written it is. [04:16] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [04:16] spook: Oh ok cuz I was wondering about the program kismet, the latest one in the SBo repository is the 2008-05 version and there have been quite a few versions released after that [04:18] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [04:19] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@aa20060611363b8b1fd4.userreverse.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [04:19] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Client Quit [04:20] i remember when i was on 12.2 there was a 2009_06 version of kismet in one of the repositories, but for 13.0 all i find is the 2008 version [04:20] 2009_06 being the latest stable release of kismet [04:21] phreak: there are probably reasons. email the script maintainer and ask [04:22] you can always builed from source :P [04:22] spook: OK thanks I'll look into that [04:23] nickstolen: Yeah I can, but then if i were to upgrade... anything I installed from source as opposed to from a package manager wouldnt get upgraded and then might break. [04:24] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [04:24] sbopkg is not a package manager. [04:24] nor is slackbuilds.org [04:24] :P install on a seperate slice somewhere. remove and install from package or rebuild from source when needed. [04:25] but building and installing from source, instead of building a package makes it horrible [04:25] phreak: I built 2009-06-R1 myself. Just edit the slackbuild. [04:25] nickstolen: thats The Wrong Way (tm) [04:25] spook why ? [04:26] so use the 12.2 kismet 200806 slackbuild. Simples. [04:26] nickstolen: you should always build packages and manage software using packages. [04:26] spook: no i didn't mean sbopkg, but at least that builds them into pacakages that i can install using installpkg and i can remove them just as easily [04:26] phreak: yes, thats The Right Way (tm) [04:26] kwikness (n=kwikness@c-24-128-93-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:27] Action: chopp sighs and goes back to sleep. [04:27] there is no right wrong [04:27] whereas if i build them from source myself... it makes a mess in my opinion to have some stuff installed by package managers and other stuff from source [04:27] to each their own means [04:27] nickstolen: yes, there is. [04:27] nickstolen: there is very clearly a right and wrong way. [04:28] phreak, learn how to make packages? [04:28] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:28] the wrong way being, not using the package system. [04:28] spook on a non commercial server/desktop sorry there is none [04:28] nickstolen: yes, there is. [04:28] package managers are a matter of taste [04:28] hahaha. [04:29] nickstolen: obviously you are beyond the reach of rational argument. [04:29] so i'll leave you to fubar your broken system. [04:29] heh [04:30] jonsmith1982: Thanks.Oh no, don't get me wrong. They do have the 2008_05 slackbuild for 13.0, but I just thought they'd have the 2009_06 added by now is all. [04:31] just another tool to replace human interaction. [04:31] nyRednek (n=yosi@24.168.60.60) joined ##slackware. [04:32] an automated fubar [04:32] most likely it wil just be a case of changing the tar.gz source filename in the slackbuild and maybe the txz/tgz [04:32] spook you make no sense a package is still build from source, are you saying packages are made out of babies? [04:33] nickstolen: if you build a package from source, and install the package, you can very easily upgrade the package or remove it. [04:33] jonsmith1982: Yes, you're right. [04:33] the same is not true for using for example, make install [04:33] spook how is that any different from me wanting to do everything manually [04:33] ? [04:33] becuase it allows for structure? [04:33] how does apache or kisemet break the kernel [04:33] nickstolen: you can manually make a package quite easily. [04:34] senseless arguement seriously [04:34] nickstolen: no, quite a sensible argument. [04:34] some people like to use pkgsrc on slackware [04:34] dood what? [04:34] I like to build everything from source [04:34] it's not a cluster of servers [04:34] it's a desktop [04:34] :P [04:35] nickstolen: and so what do you do when you want to remove a piece of software or update it? [04:35] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [04:35] nickstolen: He just means that if its built manually, it makes it a little more difficult to keep track off [04:35] phreak: na not if you used to it [04:35] phreak: no it makes it virtually impossible to keep track of. [04:36] wtf [04:36] nickstolen: you mean, if you dont care if your system is broken. [04:36] nickstolen: after all when you want to uninstall, you have to cd into the directory and 'make clean' and what not [04:36] it's pretty dumb actually. [04:36] how can you not keep track of what version of what you have installed [04:36] and hen all files it doesn't remove, you have to find and remove manually as well [04:36] because not all build scripts include unistall functions [04:37] still brings back to the point there is no wrong or right way, there is a easy or complicated way which is a preferred way. [04:37] so you are saying you prefer the simplicity of the complicated? [04:37] nickstolen: I guess if you put it in a matter of preference [04:37] then yes its up to you [04:37] there are only a few apps i have installed without being packaged first [04:38] it is up to you wether you have a horribly broken and unmanagable system, yes. [04:38] it's not fooking broken geesh [04:38] broken is if something does not work [04:39] stop trolling out terms and idealogies, it's a hughe difference from standards [04:39] who's trolling? [04:39] how'd you keep track of what files belong to which application/library? [04:40] nickstolen, ^ [04:40] i'm not trolling, you just cant handle the truth. [04:40] it is broken, because the package system is rendered mostly useless for tracking what is and isnt on your system [04:41] Axius (n=fd@92.82.91.88) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:42] spook but you assume someone is using a package manager on a said system [04:42] e01 (n=OSCorp01@213.169.52.50) joined ##slackware. [04:42] and comforming to your ideal way of doing things. [04:42] nickstolen: pkgtools. thank you and good night. [04:43] everything else is built on pkgtools [04:43] srcpkg, sbopkg, slackpkg, slapt-get [04:43] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:43] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [04:44] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.25) left irc: "Leaving." [04:45] we are arguing about different things. pointless. _end_ [04:45] nickstolen, the only time someone definitely isn't using a package manager on a said system is when they're using something like lfs or sourceror [04:45] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:45] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@81.57.177.108) joined ##slackware. [04:47] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:47] libotr is fortran? wow [04:48] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-085.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [04:48] it's like saying there is no need for a package manager. maybe we should have a midget instead that comes with slackware and keeps track of all that stuff. [04:49] and pkgtools is really simple and easy to use too [04:49] i mean, /var/log/packages [04:49] what more could you want? [04:50] and AWESOME because you can use it over ssh! [04:50] well you can use apt-get etc over ssh [04:50] Morn [04:50] spook, true...and yum as well [04:51] yes though not with a nice ncurses gui no? [04:51] Action: spook shivers at the mention of yum [04:51] mrselfpwn, LOL [04:51] spook, the only reason i know is because i have to for someone [04:51] spook: Hahaha yum [04:51] i've had some baaaad experiences with yum [04:51] as have I [04:52] yum *loves* it when you manually update python ;) [04:52] yes she does [04:52] yum *loves* to fuck up your grub boot order. [04:52] spook, agreed [04:53] spook, you gotta play with the grub before rebooting, especially if on a ssh connection [04:53] Does anyone here use sbopkg? [04:53] phreak: yuppers :) [04:53] phreak, yep [04:53] Does it have a conf file or no? [04:54] yes it does [04:54] several files can be adjusted [04:55] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-135-56.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:55] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-131-116.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [04:56] Oh hahaha. I'm an idiot, I found it. [04:56] phreak, right in /etc/sbopkg, right? [04:56] phreak, exactly where you'd expect it to be [04:57] nyRednek: Yes exactly. Smh. [04:57] wonder why xfig isn't in the xfce menu under graphics [04:57] Kowalczyk (i=kowalczy@237-160.neasonline.no) joined ##slackware. [04:59] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:00] phreak, i have my blonde moments too [05:00] phreak, don't worry about it [05:01] nyRednek: Haha. Thanks. [05:02] spook: Y'know that picture of my coffee [05:03] phreak, btw, does this look accurate? http://imagebin.org/68751 [05:03] it just occurred to me (esp with someone's fru-fru comment) that it might have been misinterpreted cause looking at it.. it looks like a latte or something -- i just wanted to clarify that my coffee is always pure. No milk, no sugar.. just ground beans in water.. and it still comes out lookin like that :D [05:03] Zordrak: yeah? [05:03] Zordrak: heh, strong shit if it looks like that [05:03] heyll yeah! [05:03] puts hairs on your chest. [05:04] i have another one infront of me now [05:04] and makes them curl [05:04] sounds like one of them girly capuccinos to me [05:04] morning (bis) [05:04] its just a shame about the maximum concontration of coffee in water [05:04] i cant just keep adding coffee till its so thick the spoon stands up on its own cause itll taste granular [05:04] Zordrak: super saturated. [05:05] thats basically what my coffee is: Max Sat [05:05] Zordrak: if you heat it up more, more should disolve [05:05] only 50 minutes of work left this week! [05:05] wheee [05:06] slackytude, cool [05:06] I may be used to Navy coffee, but even I have limits to what concentration I can enjoy [05:06] Zordrak: maybe find some way to liquify the coffee grounds without diluting them with water [05:07] Zordrak, i generally just do espresso [05:07] nyRednek: Looks good to me [05:07] phreak, cool [05:08] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:08] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [05:08] phreak, i think i'm ready to do a t-shirt then...picture that as the mask for a rubber stamp, put in random positions and angles, and done in varying gradients on a black shirt [05:09] phreak, or, better, a screen made with that as the mask [05:09] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [05:09] nyRednek: Yeah, that'd be pretty sick [05:09] hmm. Im having a problem with getting static ip from dhcp.. I have set static ip using the mac adress on the dhcp server. but when dhcpcd runs it doesnt get that ip. if I do dhclient eth0 it gets that ip. what do I have to do to make dhcpcd get that ip? [05:10] phreak, when/if i get it done, i'll put a photo of it up [05:10] Kowalczyk: depends what mac address your client is reporting. [05:10] i think... [05:10] nyRednek: Yeah I'd like to see that [05:10] or does it take it from the packet... [05:11] Action: Zordrak finally has pacemaker running with an active IPMI STONITH configuration \o/ [05:11] Kowalczyk: using the host { hardware-address: declaration in /etc/dhcpd.conf i assume? [05:11] Zordrak: thats really sweet [05:11] if I check /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd.duid it has a lot of signs before the mac adress [05:11] spook: ok. I will check [05:11] phreak, i'm sure it would start a few conversations on the bus [05:11] there is nothing in that file:D [05:11] i wonder what slackware would look like as a barcode...hmmm [05:12] spook: works to.. all i have to do is killall -KILL corosync and *boom* the bok gets rebooted remotely from the other node useng IPMIv2 [05:12] Kowalczyk: what dhcp server are you using? [05:12] *too [05:12] *box [05:12] Zordrak: so cool [05:12] *using :) [05:12] it runs dhcpcd in slackware13. 3.2.3 [05:12] nyRednek: Definitely [05:12] Kowalczyk: thats not the dhcp SERVER, thats the client [05:13] aha:d the dhcp server is running on a windows 2008 server [05:13] nyRednek: barcode would be cool [05:13] Kowalczyk: yuck. how is it setup to give your machine a static address? [05:14] i just generated a Slackware 64 barcode...just a sec, imagebin'ing it [05:14] but it works if I run debian. then it get the right ip... must be something I forgot in slackware [05:14] spook: this is on work:d hehe.. only windows servers here [05:14] using the mac adress of the machine.. [05:14] hmmm... [05:15] but hardware ethernet macaddress; ?is that right ? [05:15] phreak, http://imagebin.org/68755 [05:15] theres no reason it shouldnt be working. is dhcpcd giving a dynamic address, or not address at all? [05:15] is getting a ip [05:15] but not the right one [05:15] if I run dhclient afterwards it gets the right ip [05:15] Kowalczyk: the hardware address thing is if you were running a linux dhcpd server, which you arent [05:15] nyRednek: That's cool. I'd put that on a black tee as well [05:15] Kowalczyk: thats interesting. [05:16] actually I noticed something like that too [05:16] and not only on slackware [05:16] spook: yes. hehe [05:16] phreak, yeah, without the words "Slackware 64" [05:16] It worked on ubuntu and debian.. hmm [05:16] and freebsd [05:16] dhclient gets a different IP from dhcpcd [05:16] Kowalczyk: dhcpcd --debug might help [05:16] nyRednek: Yup [05:16] I still cant get hold of a proper original slackware t-shirt [05:16] not without paying airmail shipping [05:16] Zordrak, i got the ballcap [05:17] spook: brb [05:17] Kowalczyk: wait [05:17] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:17] this country only has the one with "classic" on it instead of "linux" and the stupid reversible one [05:17] Kowalczyk: dhcpcd --request
[05:18] ok. I will try [05:18] Zordrak, here's a solution...if you want to make it locally and still give money to pat, have a screen printer do it, and pay pat the remainder through paypal [05:18] Zordrak, i'm sure pat won't mind much [05:19] spook: segfault at 0 ip in dhcpd.conf [05:19] and something more. im not in the same room as the server. hehe [05:19] Zordrak, esp if you're supporting him [05:19] Action: spook hates poorly formatted man pages like dhclient(8) [05:19] Kowalczyk: read the dhcpcd man page. [05:20] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [05:20] if I remove dhcpcd and only has dhclient it fails as well :D [05:20] because it cant find dhcpcd :d [05:20] do it by hand using raw sockets then :) [05:21] as a matter of fact, if pat wants to use any ideas i'm airing here, he's free to...would like to see some cooler slack swag [05:21] I'm going to head out. Goodnight/morning all. And thanks for the help, nyRednek. Looking forward to seeing that shirt. [05:21] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:21] phreak, it may not be instant...i may first make it a wallpaper [05:21] spook: Thanks to you as well [05:22] nyRednek: Well then I'll be looking forward to the 'prototypes' [05:23] Later guys [05:23] grazymax_ (n=grazymax@host81-96-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:23] phreak: np [05:24] phreak (n=phreak@pool-151-204-157-206.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [05:24] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [05:26] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-107.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:32] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [05:37] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. 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[05:57] hi [05:57] hi [05:58] Ilie (i=1000@89.137.210.59) joined ##slackware. [05:58] so spook I have a question [05:58] time to go [05:58] wheeee! [05:58] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [05:58] hi, I'm running 12.2, any idea where I could find a .tgz with openoffice ? [05:58] I installed kernel 2.6.31.4 built it myself....and now hald wont run [05:59] ScabbyMadman: okay? [05:59] see above [05:59] ScabbyMadman: and this is a problem why? [06:00] Ilie: rworkman's repo [06:00] automounting of cds and usb sticks dont work [06:00] now [06:00] Ilie: see http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/office/openoffice.org/ [06:00] Ilie, http://rlworkman.net/pkgs [06:00] Ilie: there is a "HOWTO" link at the top of the page [06:00] ScabbyMadman: do you understand WHY hald wont start? [06:00] nope [06:00] no error messages [06:01] ScabbyMadman: try reinstalling the hal package [06:01] looking for clues turned on verbose [06:01] High_Priest (n=MMF@195.212.29.163) left ##slackware ("Bye"). [06:01] something like removepkg + installpkg [06:01] Camarade_Tux, thats a thought but when I roll back to an older kernel hald works fine [06:02] so what should reinstalling it make a difference? [06:02] ScabbyMadman: its probably a kernel option somewhere thats killed it [06:02] virtualint (n=virtuali@88.245.237.130) joined ##slackware. [06:02] did you make your own config from scratch or did you template off one of pat's? [06:02] ScabbyMadman: so you have your answer I guess ^^ [06:02] thanks for the tip Camarade_Tux [06:02] ScabbyMadman: how did you configure it? [06:02] thats more my thinking but Im puzzled and dont have any older kernel .configs around [06:02] Ilie: :) [06:03] I just downgraded from 13 to 12.2, I can't get dual monitors working [06:03] Camarade_Tux, with make xconfig from scratch [06:03] Ilie: well, there's slava_dp's link too [06:03] Ilie: any reason you downgraded? [06:03] Ilie: why downgrade? and which graphic card? [06:03] I have a dell inspiron 1501 [06:04] what about zcat /proc/config.gz ScabbyMadman [06:04] ScabbyMadman: use slackware's configuration and work from that unless you're *very* *very* experienced with kernel configs [06:04] the laptop has a few years, ati dropped support for my graphic card, the "new" Xorg made it worse [06:04] I guess 12.2 is "home" from now on [06:04] ScabbyMadman: zcat /boot/config > .config; make oldconfig [06:05] Camarade_Tux, yeah I used to be experienced....forgottten more that I know...but thats a big help thanks! [06:05] Ilie: ah yes, lots of ati X org problems [06:05] the slack config [06:05] I guess I should buy new hardware, but for now 12.2 is more than perfect [06:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [06:05] well thanks folks.... [06:05] ScabbyMadman (n=Cme@69-165-154-156.dsl.teksavvy.com) left ##slackware ("I buy swedish Winter Tires...Semperit: what more do you want?"). [06:06] anyway, the next computer/laptop will have nvidia for sure :) [06:06] hehehe. [06:06] Ilie: just make sure its GeForce not Quadro or some shit [06:06] intel ftw [06:06] beware of the 8 series [06:07] i burned one recently ran 70C idle [06:07] and after research i guess they commonly burn [06:07] passively cooled? [06:07] nope [06:07] evga 1gb 8500gt model [06:07] budget card though [06:07] having a proper case with sensible airflow, with the case in a sensible location usually helps [06:07] cheapest available [06:08] nice of u to care spook [06:08] i probably shouldnt have pushed it to the max in warmonger though [06:08] ah yeah. [06:08] :P [06:08] that'd root it. doing physx on it [06:09] heh [06:09] but surely you were getting artifacts if it was running hot? [06:09] nope [06:09] none [06:09] sure sign to powerdown and reasses [06:09] just random reboot and then permanant artifacts ;) [06:09] heh. [06:10] i had max settings in warmonger for like 20 minutes [06:10] it was just starting to get good too! [06:10] haha [06:11] now im stuck with my shity onboard ati rageXL? something like that [06:11] whatevers common onboard for intel servers [06:11] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-52-144.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Operation timed out [06:11] yeah.. rageXL is common for all kinds of server board [06:12] yea thad be it [06:12] mesa over rageXL just doesnt cut it ;) [06:12] 1 frame every 8 seconds [06:12] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-80-176.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:12] ;) [06:13] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [06:13] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:13] Action: Zordrak wants to go on rocerd to say that setting up Corosync/OpenAIS, Pacemaker, DRBD & STONITH together is the hardest thing he has EVER done in his professional career. EVER. [06:13] *record [06:13] i think you just did [06:13] mac- (i=mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:14] I just cant get over how immature it is [06:14] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [06:15] corosync was only just updated last week to properly shut itself down when asked [06:15] before that it caused the system to infititely wait at shutdown [06:15] and the code evolves daily (on mercurial *ugh*) [06:15] and version numbers mean shit-all [06:16] 1.0.5 could mean any stage between the first release of 1.0.5 and the latest mercurial head (or whatever they call it in hg) [06:17] somehow that's not surprising [06:17] can you recommend me a good desktop search tool, I'm running xfce, I looked at beagle but it has c# dependencies , thanks [06:19] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [06:19] spook: ? dhcpcd -s ipadress works. but how can I make that run on startup"? hmm [06:20] guys, how do I reload my hal policy files? [06:20] hal restart is being ignored... [06:20] Kowalczyk: put it in your rc.local [06:20] but then again. I can jhust set a static ip :d [06:21] Kowalczyk: doesn't your dhcp server allow you to assign specific ips to specific mac addresses? [06:21] ananke: yes.. but it doesnt work [06:21] but brb.. [06:21] aigon (n=ojof@92.82.64.102) joined ##slackware. [06:22] Kowalczyk: what dhcp server is it? [06:22] you can try to give the right mac with dhcpcd -I yo:ur:ma:ch:er:e! [06:22] Ilie, man find [06:22] pgeek||_ (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [06:23] How to configure the internet conection on openbsd? [06:24] aigon: wrong channel buddy [06:24] :) thanks slava_dp [06:25] Ilie, also slocate, but find is the flexible thing. [06:25] I've installed openbsd on a VM and the net doen't work. [06:26] aigon: troll elsewhere [06:27] Why are so bad! [06:27] aigon: out the door [06:30] TecR0c (i=tecr0c@never.met.a.leet-hacker.net) joined ##slackware. [06:30] how can i tell what my mac address is [06:31] TecR0c: ifconfig -a [06:31] if you don't kbnow that you don't deserve @leethacker.net [06:31] ananke, you are not helping me but, you could help youself! [06:32] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:32] aigon: now you're just being retarded. go troll elsewhere [06:33] lol! [06:33] Frecuency (n=h@unaffiliated/frecuency) joined ##slackware. [06:33] Frecuency (n=h@unaffiliated/frecuency) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). [06:33] Action: jg71 donates an S to aigon [06:35] ananke: the problem is I have that.. b ut dhcpcd dont get that ip. dhclient does [06:35] Kowalczyk: what dhcp server is it? [06:35] the dhcp server is running on a win 2008 server [06:35] Im at work [06:35] _MaggoT_ (n=NewBie@125.166.95.69) joined ##slackware. [06:36] it works in ubuntu and debian,fedora,freebsd,opensuse and so on [06:36] but not on slack [06:37] that does not make sense, since your mac address wouldn't magically change [06:37] I know... [06:37] this means two things: a) your dhcp server is not set up correctly, b) your dhcp server expects hostname string to be provided by the dhcp client [06:37] dhcpcd gave me 136 and 138 and dhclient gives me 194 that I'm supposed to have [06:38] Kowalczyk: you could use /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [06:39] what shall I put in there? [06:39] read the file [06:40] tbb (n=sammo@89.243.245.243) joined ##slackware. [06:42] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:43] I try setting the HWADDR [06:43] and see what happens [06:45] after i told you about the dhcp hostname... [06:45] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:45] ananke: thats in that file :) [06:45] spook: exactly [06:46] hey guys, what do you think of this cheesy bg? http://imagebin.org/68760 [06:46] ananke: i gave my suggestion because of you talking about providing a dhcp hostname [06:48] spook: yeah, and look what he went to change: HWADDR [06:48] Kowalczyk: c'mon, pay attention :) [06:49] ananke: theres no hope for some people [06:51] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.43.251) joined ##slackware. [06:51] packetee1 (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:51] nbnds (n=nbnds@wh7-113.st.Uni-Magdeburg.DE) joined ##slackware. [06:52] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:52] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:52] aigon (n=ojof@92.82.64.102) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:53] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [06:53] theblackerbox (n=sammo@92.25.241.66) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:54] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.64.102) joined ##slackware. [06:54] that bad? [06:54] ananke: I can try that dhcp hostname as well... I didnt see that :d [06:56] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) joined ##slackware. [06:56] nyRednek: i didnt look, but yes its that bad [06:57] Kowalczyk: do you actually read what people say? or just read the nick and guess the rest [06:57] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [06:58] hello guys [06:58] i was using debian as server [06:58] and i will try to move my systems to slackware as a server [06:58] i am using slackware for 9 years [06:58] virtualint, your question? [06:59] but i dont know if it is good to use it as a server [06:59] spook: I wasnt here.. hehe.. but I read it now.. but Im trying the dhcp hostname now.. and see if that works :) [06:59] virtualint, the best. [06:59] virtualint: if _you_ don't know that after 9 years of using it, then we can't help you [06:59] but probably a poorly configured dhcp server at work :D [06:59] ananke, dont get me wrong [06:59] there is no 'the best' [06:59] ananke: no one can help him. [06:59] i have employees [06:59] and they really dont know much about slack [07:00] they are all used to use redhat and debian [07:00] and the tools [07:00] virtualint: then why do you want to move away from debian? [07:00] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:00] virtualint, if they know the console, it won't be that big of a transition [07:00] virtualint: trial by fire. [07:00] now i ve my own company [07:00] seems like a bad business decision: moving away from what's currently deployed, working and supported to an unknown situation where support will be lacking [07:00] fire the ones that fail the trial [07:00] and want to do all i want as my experiences showed me [07:00] but i ve never used slack as a server [07:01] just used for my development purposes [07:01] virtualint: then don't [07:01] alicephilippa (i=alice@78.105.168.173) joined ##slackware. [07:01] seriously, don't put your business in jeopardy for no good reason [07:01] DidierSpaier (n=didier@inv75-1-81-57-28-169.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [07:01] maybe because of i am a fan of it , i am thinking so brave to move all the systems to slack [07:02] virtualint: that's stupid not brave [07:02] u r stupid ananke [07:02] virtualint, what ananke said...if you want to introduce them to slack, do it side-by-side with your current deployment, and let them transition as they can [07:02] what s ur problem dude [07:02] virtualint: i didn't call you stupid, i called the decision you're about to make stupid. if you can't see the difference, you are doomed to fail [07:03] ananke, have u ever tried to increase ur performance, scalability, and decrease the payments ? [07:03] u called me stupid [07:03] that s so rude [07:03] it is my mistake to ask a question [07:03] nbnds (n=nbnds@wh7-113.st.Uni-Magdeburg.DE) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:03] virtualint: no, i'm about to call you stupid, because you don't see the difference between calling _you_ stupid and calling _your decision_ stupid [07:03] `Stupid is as stupid does...` [07:04] ananke do u have sexual problems in ur life and u r getting rude to a person who is asking for help? [07:04] virtualint, seriously...if your guys are familiar with debian, leave them with it and suggest slack...give an extra box over to it and let them ssh in [07:04] virtualint: now you're only further proving that you're not mature enough to handle this discussion [07:04] nyRednek, thanks for the answer [07:04] ananke, get some politeness from nyRednek [07:04] virtualint: the irony behind that statement is just too overwhelming [07:04] ananke, go to psychoterapist dude [07:05] anahel, i know [07:05] ananke, even [07:05] virtualint, calm down. [07:05] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.64.102) left irc: "Leaving" [07:05] isnt it rude to call a people stupid or his behaviour stupid while he needs help for his company's future? [07:05] virtualint: i never called you stupid [07:05] sorry guys [07:06] nbnds (n=nbnds@wh7-113.st.Uni-Magdeburg.DE) joined ##slackware. [07:06] virtualint: You are stupid. But not for the reason you think. [07:06] ananke, stupid does stupidthings please learn about some grammar [07:06] Zordrak, u r more tupid than me because calling me stupid [07:06] virtualint: you have been proving over and over that you have a poor grasp of english grammar [07:07] Action: Zordrak pulls out a deckchair [07:07] Action: droog grabs some popcorn [07:07] Action: nyRednek loads and fires up his corn cob [07:07] just when i have to leave :) [07:07] awww [07:08] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.64.102) joined ##slackware. [07:08] when i see people like Zordrak and ananke , it makes me think twice about the old days of open source, people were helping each other without being so annoying [07:08] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-250-13.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:08] virtualint: you know what, you should move to slackware. right away. all of your systems. i believe that would really prove to others how smart you really are [07:08] one day I want to see a deathmatch between ananke and straterror.. that could be epic [07:08] Zordrak: go back in time couple of years :) [07:08] be and stay with your celever and rude minds [07:08] Ilie (i=1000@89.137.210.59) left irc: "Leaving" [07:08] cant have been a proper deathmatch.. youre both still alive :) [07:08] virtualint, actually, in the older days of open source, RTFM was the most common response [07:09] ironically enough, i'll be all day in training titled 'communication for leaders' :) [07:09] lol [07:09] do you have a problem about being clever, you are using too much [07:09] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.64.102) left irc: Client Quit [07:10] *you are using it too much [07:10] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:10] virtualint: You're done in here buddy. Don't let the door smack you in the arse on the way out. kthxbai [07:10] virtualint, not funny any more, really. [07:10] Zordrak: i'll fight straterror, but i need an alibi and transport to a non-extradition country [07:10] why ? [07:10] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [07:11] Zordrak, i am not being rude here you and your pet is being rude [07:11] /kick virtualint [07:11] hahahaa [07:11] slava_dp, why mime it? [07:11] thats why i or someone active in this time needs ops [07:11] nbnds (n=nbnds@wh7-113.st.Uni-Magdeburg.DE) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:12] woow youth you always have a sense of humour, kicking a person who needs help and kicking a person who is called stupid by some "very very clever","open-minded" people is a good thing to do [07:13] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:13] spook, i would think so as well. you and Zordrak would make nice ops. [07:13] go on guys, do this everytime and dont try to learn the roots of the open source philosophy [07:13] slava_dp: so tell unixfool that [07:14] virtualint, the roots of the philosophy have something to do with actually reading the source [07:14] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.64.102) joined ##slackware. [07:14] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.64.102) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:14] fucked assholes [07:14] virtualint (n=virtuali@88.245.237.130) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:14] virtualint, and less to do with flaming a channel that doesn't receive you with open arms [07:15] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:15] fadein (n=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [07:15] damn, a few seconds late [07:15] funny guy :D [07:15] the odds that he was running windows 7? [07:15] unixfool, save the planet. Promote spook and Zordrak to ops. [07:16] slava_dp: good luck getting a response. [07:16] heh [07:16] and change the topic. security is gnutls and pidgin! :P [07:16] Mr-S^b32 (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:19] * [virtualint] #smarty #postgresql #httpd #python ##php #lowpoly-studios ##c++ [07:19] smells like troll [07:19] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [07:21] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [07:21] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) joined ##slackware. [07:22] willca (n=willca@c-24-19-63-203.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:25] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:26] spook: it didnt work with the dhcp_hostname either.. if I dont set the wrong thing there.. :D [07:26] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.43.251) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:29] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:30] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. 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[07:56] you guys are so mean, im gonna rage quit too [07:57] i was bluffing [07:57] zErOaCid (i=gnu@71.94.1.213) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:57] Nick change: _zErOaCid -> zErOaCid [07:57] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:59] tank-man u gave that some thought a whole minute later [07:59] :P [07:59] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.64.102) left irc: "Leaving" [07:59] hitest (n=hitest@64.114.226.226) joined ##slackware. [08:01] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:01] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.170) joined ##slackware. [08:01] I'm under the impression there are many more emacser than vimers on slackware, who's using emacs? [08:01] slackytude: ! [08:02] Camarade_Tux, me [08:02] rachmaninov (n=rachmani@76.73.16.26) left irc: "CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)" [08:02] greetings [08:02] y0 Camarade_Tux [08:02] btw, that troll we had earlier, was also rachmaninov [08:03] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:04] hitest (n=hitest@64.114.226.226) left irc: "Leaving" [08:07] Camarade_Tux, i'm a vimer for sure. i don't even know how to operate emacs. [08:07] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.177.14) joined ##slackware. [08:08] hi there! [08:08] hi metrofox [08:08] slava_dp: same here [08:08] y0 metrofox [08:08] oy slava_dp [08:08] t0 slackytude & Camarade_Tux [08:08] heya slackytude :) [08:08] ^-^ [08:08] *y0, what's going on guys? =) [08:09] nyRednek: hmmm, I know one guy here using emacs beside you [08:09] Action: slackytude is sitting in uni with not much to do [08:09] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:09] Action: Camarade_Tux hands slackytude a beer [08:09] slackytude, that good uni time [08:09] ha [08:09] yeah [08:10] I should probably read something or stuff [08:10] Desiderius (n=user@ucopia-nat-invite.univ-evry.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [08:10] slackytude: review :P [08:10] hi slackytude [08:10] y0 dive [08:10] wassup? [08:11] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:11] a backlog of course stuff [08:11] ha [08:11] as always [08:11] earlier today I went to the supermarket and bought some beer (among other things), I almost broke a bottle which I hadn't seen and an old woman approached laughing a bit, then I saw that same old woman while paying, she had only bought cans of beer, something like 4 or 5 liters :D [08:11] heh [08:11] Camarade_Tux, doesn't surprise me...emacs is still a base package set [08:11] in france? isnt she supposed to buy wine? [08:11] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:11] nyRednek: so big it's in e/ :P [08:11] g'morning all [08:11] slackytude: seems not :P [08:11] hi haldir :) [08:12] and no Armagnac! well, no good Armagnac ='( [08:12] the only time I have anything to do with emacs is to deselect it from the install list ;-) [08:12] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [08:12] dive: which editor are you using? [08:12] vim [08:12] keres (n=keres@68.102.140.120) joined ##slackware. [08:14] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:15] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:15] I've just been converting two ubuntu laptops to slack :-) [08:15] kde 4.3.1 [08:15] do all source trees support DESTDIR for 'make install'? [08:15] zoran119, not all [08:16] unfortunately [08:16] dive: good, and good again :) [08:16] zoran119, you maye have to do some Makefile hacking to get a slackbuild to work on one that doesn't [08:16] i'm trying to do my first slackbuild and make install complains that it cannot write to /usr/bin... this indicates to me that it's not respecting the DESTDIR [08:17] sounds it [08:17] zoran119: what is it btw? [08:17] are you not doing it as root? [08:17] dive: ok... doesn't sound fun [08:17] zoran119, have a look in the Makefil [08:17] usually just means a case of sedding it [08:17] zoran119: take a look at the makefile. sometimes they support another variable like DEST or DDIR which does the same as DESTDIR [08:17] sahko: no... i think that it should work for a normal user [08:18] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:18] zoran119: depends on many things [08:18] which application is it? [08:18] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.170) joined ##slackware. [08:19] sahko: guvcview [08:19] pprkut: interesting... they are talking about DESTDIR in the makefile... [08:20] zoran119: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/guvcview/guvcview/PKGBUILD [08:20] destdir works [08:20] you are doing something wrong [08:21] can i have a sanity check? [08:22] what are the implications of a nic having two IPs.. both on the same subnet..? [08:24] I didn't even know that that was possible [08:24] it's not 'make install' trying to write to /usr/bin, it's 'make' [08:24] Zordrak, that generally means something is very wrong, hardware wise [08:25] zoran119: paste the SlackBuild somewhere [08:25] nyRednek: huh? [08:25] Action: Zordrak pokes spook [08:25] maybe id dhcpcd had somehow been forced to run twice? [08:25] s/id/if/ [08:26] dive: im not saying theres something wrong.. im saying i am planning on running two IPs on the same subnet on the same NIC and want to check its not gonna cause screwy happenings [08:26] dive, but the second run would release the old ip...or the dhcp server would reassign the hardware address a diff ip and free the other [08:26] the only implications I can think of is dropped packets, but it may work ok [08:26] theoretically it should be ok.. but im wondering how the routing table handles the choice of route for the local subnet [08:26] sahko: http://pastebin.com/m57844814 [08:26] Zordrak, that should work [08:27] Zordrak, depends on your route which interface packets will use. But why? [08:27] when you communicate with another box on the same subnet.. how does it choose which IP its sending from? [08:27] first routing entry that matches... [08:27] hmvv that makes sense [08:28] but why? [08:28] zoran119, can you pastebin the Makefile? [08:28] because im doing high availability and i want one IP for the HA services.. but i still want the boxes to have their own IPs so i can get at them [08:28] zoran119: why do you use pwd and echo $PKG under make? [08:28] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [08:29] and comment make install? [08:29] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [08:29] so 1.2.3.4 hosts services.. but it might be an alice or bob.. and alice and bob are accessible by 1.2.3.254 and 1.2.3.253 respectively [08:29] you arent even using DESTDIR. its commented out [08:29] lots of comments there [08:29] Zordrak, I see [08:29] but it's make that's producing the error, not make install [08:29] sahko: http://pastebin.com/d29e2ae8 [08:30] dive: ^ [08:30] slackytude: just wanted to sanity check that two IPs on the same subnet on the box isnt gonna cause a failstorm [08:30] sahko: debug... work in progress :) was trying to see what is trying to write to /usr/bin [08:30] theres nothing wrong with the makefile. you are doing it wrong [08:30] if you dont want to be root, you should use fakeroot for starters [08:31] Zordrak, nah [08:31] its trying to write in /usr because you commented destdir [08:31] sahko: ok... i was under impression that running make would not try to write to /usr/bin... i though that make install would do that [08:32] zoran119: make doesnt copy files [08:32] Zordrak, you have that every time for machines that have guest OS's in a VM too, for example [08:33] PenPerk (n=carlj@71.246.216.235) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:33] http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/09/10/21/2319200/Singer-In-Grocery-Store-Ordered-To-Pay-Royalties?from=rss [08:33] lol [08:33] each guest has an IP in the same subnet which get all passed through a single NIC with many virtual NIC's [08:33] agentc0re, saw that. bollocks [08:33] sahko: exactly... but the script doesn't get past the 'make' line because it fails on copying to /usr/bin [08:33] sahko: i got no idea why is it trying to write there [08:34] slackytude: no doubt. I can't believe anyone or any company would do that. Everyone sings songs..... might as well open up a class action against the world. PRS vs WORLD! [08:35] sahko: cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/bin/_inst.20484_': Permission denied [08:35] stunix (i=1000@80.239.44.253) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:35] sahko: is this a temp file? [08:35] youre not root, you cant write in /usr [08:35] youre not using destdir, you can copy to $TMP instead [08:35] 1 min [08:35] Not so funny thing is PRS would probably win... :( [08:35] agentc0re, dont give them ideas -_- [08:36] aye [08:36] sahko: i know, but why is it trying to write there... i'm only running make... nothing else... make should work for a non-root user [08:36] slackytude: Shit.. sorry.. My brain just, works sometimes ya know..? :P [08:36] thats your problem right there [08:36] far easier to turn it off [08:37] slackytude: yeah.. but isnt that done via bridging? [08:38] zoran119: try working with this script http://grbzks.pastebin.com/f71fdec9e [08:38] Zordrak, depends. Its useful to bridge them but you can do plain old nating too. doesnt really matter if its TUN or TAP [08:38] zoran119: edit the DOCS line and make a slack-desc and a doinst.sh [08:38] and it should work, eventually [08:39] thetrooper (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [08:39] Zordrak, afaik, an alias to eth gets treated as a virtual device by the kernel [08:40] thetrooper (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Client Quit [08:42] sahko: my mistake... working now... [08:42] sahko: it seems that the source comes with no man pages or docs... do people submit these kind of packages to sbo? [08:44] zoran119: this has docs. the AUTHORS file for example COPYING ChangeLog INSTALL NEWS README TODO [08:46] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:46] sahko: cool... sorry... first slackbuild... thanks for the help [08:47] read the slackbuilds.org documentation in the slackwiki [08:47] and in general [08:52] how does installpkg know where files are being written to so that removepkg can remove them later? [08:53] see /var/log/packages/ [08:53] Kellyyy (i=draqula_@41.236.14.253) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:53] 'tar -v' tells him [08:54] grazymax (n=grazymax@host35-159-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:54] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:55] Camarade_Tux: cool... that's what i was after... i think! [08:55] tar -v lists each file that is extracted and pkgtools records that in a file [08:55] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. 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[09:03] basically I'm looking for anyone with webkit-1.11 (or more recent) on slackware64 to test if a binary works (binary because I don't think most people here have the bits to compile it) [09:08] Camarade_Tux, hey, here's a decent screenshot http://imagebin.org/68770 [09:10] Camarade_Tux: I have my own webkit-gtk 1.1.12 package installed here on slackware64 [09:11] Camarade_Tux, sorry, don't have webkit-gtk installed [09:11] awesomo!! pacemaker is now handling drbd & ipaddr & fs.. as soon as the primary node goes offline.. the secondary becomes the drbd master, the filesystem is mounted on the new master and the IP address is moved to the new master!! [09:11] Action: Zordrak does the dance [09:11] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) left irc: [09:11] NeanT (n=mihai@89.122.244.236) joined ##slackware. [09:11] now to add nfsd and smbd to the management stack [09:13] Nick change: AbsTradE1ic -> AbsTradELic [09:14] hey everybody [09:14] alienBOB: would you mind trying to run http://pers.yaxm.org/temp/webkit_test.xz (300KB) ? it simply displays google.com (or run as ./webkit_test http://slackware.com [don't forget the http:// ^^ ]) [09:14] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:15] chances are it'd need a recompile but I'm curious anyway [09:15] Zordrak, nifty setup [09:16] (basically somebody tried to compile on his computer but I'm not sure his gtk is very healthy considering the errors it spits...) [09:16] Zordrak, will you update once its in the kernel by default? [09:16] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.64.102) joined ##slackware. [09:18] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:18] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.64.102) left irc: Client Quit [09:19] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:19] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-149-128.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:19] Camarade_Tux: at least the app starts, but as I am behind a corporate proxy, the windows stays white [09:19] Ah... argument [09:19] alienBOB: \o/ [09:19] alienBOB: without argument it will load google.com [09:19] that's wonderful :) [09:20] thanks a lot :) [09:20] Yes it loads an intranet page [09:20] It misses scroll bars though [09:20] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) joined ##slackware. [09:21] alienBOB: the code is about 10 lines ;-) [09:21] I had to develop the language bindings to access webkit-gtk from ocaml and that is only a test app for this part [09:22] slackytude: to.. this is the 13.0 kernel as designed for 13.0 -- the kernel will not be updated unless absolutely necessary. This system is about stability above all else [09:23] heh, I feel you [09:24] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[09:44] I've brought ocaml-gir (my project) to a working point, at last (I've been on a rewrite for five months now) [09:45] what does it do? i cannot derive its usage from that .. name [09:45] I won't have to look at that horrible gobject-introspection (well, not too much that is) [09:45] jg71: ocaml is a programming language, ocaml-gir generates code that enables one to use glib-based libraries in ocaml [09:46] okay, proceed [09:46] enrico_ (n=enrico@89-96-204-112.ip14.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [09:46] (that was already possible for glib, atk, gtk, ..., ocaml-gir gives access to more, in a more generic approach) [09:48] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:48] change of topic, im a bit mad at intel's advertising campaigns. they advertised e5200 over here with virtualistation technology included, but that term wasnt defined well. so, long rant cut short, i cannot use virtualbox to run 64bit guest systems. [09:48] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-122-36.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:48] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-433246.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:48] jg71: same here [09:48] T5450 [09:48] and now, gone :) [09:50] 7 days of uptime, almost a record for that laptop [09:51] i fear the day my banias-based laptop dies [09:51] if i set tune2fs -c0 on my ext3 filesystems, will that bring any problems? i don't want that messy periodic checks. [09:52] new tech shit isnt that easy to underclock [09:52] and undervoltage [09:52] slava_dp, if you cleanly unmount each time, no probs ahead [09:53] jg71, if i don't it's going to be checked on the next boot anyway. or not? [09:53] tho i usually just set the mount-count before checks to a higher number, 100 or so, and the interval to a year [09:53] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-085.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] slava_dp: you can also use -i [09:53] that depends on your fstab entries [09:54] sahko, i know -i. i'm asking what the implications of not checking fs's regularly would be. [09:54] yskapell (n=gkapel@195.134.89.99) left irc: "leaving" [09:54] fwiw ext4 has improved the time it checks filesystems drastically [09:54] although.... before i brought this box down it's uptime was 80 days. [09:54] havent tried out ext4 yet [09:55] guys, what opens .7z files? [09:55] on reiserfs, mind it. but i switched to ext3 now. [09:55] 7zip? [09:55] Kaapa, p7zip [09:55] Kaapa, on sbo. [09:55] slava_dp: ty [09:58] woo.. Slackware + Zordrak + coding rc.nfsd + stolen `checkproc` binary from SUSE = rc.nfsd with status() option and LSB-compliant return codes [09:58] _lyte_ (n=kryptoz@resv-196.noc.cv.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [10:02] cool - now all we need to do is 'fix' checkproc to be slackware compliant :) [10:02] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:02] cool. [10:03] its not perfect.. but it ought to work [10:03] i mean the start/stop arent totally LSB compliant.. but so long as they nearly always return 0 itll be ok.. its the status() that needs to be LSB compliant [10:04] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [10:04] slava_dp: any luck with unixfool? [10:04] enrico_ (n=enrico@89-96-204-112.ip14.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:05] spook, mailed him. i don't know if he checks his mail or not. [10:05] all im really doing is: checkproc /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd; RETVAL = !$; if [ ! $RETVAL = 0 ] then; exit $RETVAL; fi; checkproc -n nfsd; exit $? [10:05] because checkproc is what provides LSB return codes [10:05] slava_dp: heh :) [10:06] Zordrak, can't you do a similar thing using pgrep? if i understood your intent well. [10:07] slava_dp: kinda.. but the LSB code matching is already done in checkproc [10:11] esteeven_ (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:11] oh bollocks. to do nfs failover they need a shared fs to store nfs info [10:12] Zordrak: i'll recommend you for ops [10:12] spook: f'nuff [10:13] hint hint [10:13] regarding hint ... new spooks nov 4th [10:13] O_o doesnt that seem a bit fishy? [10:14] heh [10:14] ahhnowait... maybe the state dir is nfsv4 only [10:14] anyone confirm? [10:14] nope [10:14] Action: Zordrak needs to slow down [10:15] Action: jg71 unconfirms Zordrak [10:15] ;P [10:15] /var/lib/nfs [10:15] esteeven_ (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:16] erk.. please tell me thats configurable.. 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[10:41] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:41] i know, i know. used to watch it every week [10:42] see if you can guess this one without googling [10:42] "As God Is My Witness, I Thought Turkeys Could Fly" [10:43] woop woop. got my new vps setup. [10:43] herb and les [10:43] haha [10:43] yeah [10:43] does anyone know what the .xsession file is supposed to be doing? i always deleted it.now i kept it but it doesnt seem to have any purpose. it can also be found in /etc/skel/.xsession [10:43] sahko: it's the government... watching you <_< [10:44] is there a wine package for slackware64? [10:44] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [10:44] amazon10x: thanks for such an insightful comment [10:45] haha no problem. seriously though, i thought it was just an init script [10:45] like .bashrc [10:45] HAPPY CAPS-LOCK DAY EVERYONE [10:45] Action: thumbs looks at v3gard suspiciously [10:46] j0z (n=JESUS@201.47.31.128.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Action: v3gard give thumbs a suspicious look [10:46] on mine it seems to call my gpg [10:46] amazon10x: it sort of is.. [10:47] better quesiton is anyone working on a WINE package for slackware64 [10:47] nickstolen: ... [10:47] sahko: I believe it's like .bashrc in that it allows you to automate some X startup stuff that's relevant only to the user [10:47] Use a slackbuild [10:47] nickstolen: go look at the wine slackbuild. [10:47] nope, wine is not worth installing 32-bit crap [10:47] and alienbob's multilib guide [10:48] man gpg-agent has some further info [10:48] thetrooper (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [10:48] thetrooper (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Client Quit [10:49] alisonken1home: i dont mean .xsession files in general. but its contents [10:49] sahko: ok - you just asked what .xsession was used for :) [10:49] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/session) joined ##slackware. [10:49] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-226-240.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: "Leaving" [10:50] root_ (i=0@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:50] Hi if I do the slapt-get --upgrade to sync with the current that should not bring any problems right ? [10:50] yeah i know. i am wondering if gpg-agent has any use on my desktop [10:51] root_: consider not using slapt-get [10:51] root_: slapt-get is not supported here [10:51] mhm but what is your advice to sync with the current ? [10:51] root_, slackpkg, which ships with slackware, is the best [10:52] root_: slackpkg, and sbopkg for slackbuilds [10:52] if you read "man slackpkg" , it's a very short man-page, which will give you the 4 commands to set it up [10:52] however, feel free to use slackpkg with mirror set to -current [10:52] root_: READ THE UPGRADE.TXT AND CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [10:52] end of discussion. [10:54] Zenoxio (n=zenoxio@rrcs-24-97-153-8.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:54] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [10:54] mk_- (n=user@187.89.41.32) joined ##slackware. [10:54] mk_- (n=user@187.89.41.32) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [10:56] What does it mean if vim is telling me "E297: Write error in swap file" in certain dirs? The partition isn't full. [10:57] whats "df" say? [10:57] what does swapon -s say [10:57] swapon is irrelevant [10:58] df shows the partition is 24% full [10:59] pics or it didn't happen [11:00] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:00] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:00] nickstolen: I have a wine package for slackware64 (a few weeks old by now) [11:01] alienBOB: oh but nickstolen doesnt believe in using the slackware package system. [11:01] spook stfu [11:01] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-169.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] thats not what I said [11:01] i appologise, you dont believe in using ANY pacakge system :) [11:01] oh ffs [11:02] Action: Nick_Patterson hands spook 2 ninja stars. [11:02] Nick_Patterson: hmm? [11:02] i'm currently concealing 8 on my person right now. [11:03] spook: take the one out of there. you don't want it to get stuck. [11:03] Nick_Patterson: :) [11:04] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:05] alienBOB: trying to figure out why it's not compiling. [11:05] nickstolen: probably because you are missing multilib libraries and multilib-enabled gcc/glibc ? [11:05] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [11:06] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left irc: "Leaving." [11:06] spook: stop trolling about packages versus manual compiles. To everyone hios own. I hate dogmas like "you must always use packages" [11:06] Zenoxio (n=zenoxio@rrcs-24-97-153-8.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: "Java user signed off" [11:07] alienBOB: fair enough. but when those same people come in here complaining that their slackware broke while trying to upgrade it, what should my answer be? [11:07] spook Who the fuck was complaining about anything being broken [11:07] geesh ffs [11:07] stfu already [11:08] nickstolen: its great that you are contributing to the discussion in a constructive manner [11:08] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [11:08] I have a motto talk to me like a idiot and expect same in return. [11:08] nickstolen: i wasnt talking to you. :) [11:08] you twist and turned the whole damn conversation and you expect some respect? [11:10] if your only responses to me are to curse and insult me, i suggest you /ignore me instead. :) [11:10] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-72-221.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:13] sodu (n=john@host81-141-52-168.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:17] spook: you are the insulting one. I can not find in the logs that nickstolen complains about a broken slackware [11:18] alienBOB: i extrapolated a common (in my experience) complaint of doing things his way, which is things tend to break. [11:18] Are you being drunk and unreasonable again? If so, the banhammer is swinging [11:18] i'm being as reasonable as i can be. [11:19] no the arguement was you said the only right way to do things is to use package manager which I disagree then you derailed the whole convo into a I am right epeen. I even forgot about the whole drama till you mentioned it again. [11:19] I *approve* of people doing things their way - but they have to be knowledgeable. Nothing wrong with building from source if you are capable. For newbies, it *may* be a different story. Then you can advise to try packages or use SlackBuilds [11:19] Level-Zero (n=Level-Ze@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [11:20] Slackware is *all about* being in full control and fighting dogma [11:20] i said it was The Right Way (tm), which is a common way in this channel of saying this is the easiest and most supported way, but by no means the ONLY way. [11:20] well, "The Right Way" implies that every other way is "wrong" [11:20] Using SlackBuild scripts and packages is convenient and yes, I create packages for everything I use. But that is my own decision [11:20] part of learning is doing it different ways and even breaking your system a few times. I know I sure as he## have done so many times in the past [11:21] spook: fuck "easiest". That way, only ubuntu lies [11:21] a never-broken system is an unused system [11:21] fair enough. [11:22] spook if you had argued that a big cluster of production server is easrier to manage with a package manager. I would not have argued. [11:22] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [11:22] s/server/servers/ [11:22] i'll conceed the point, that i was wrong to come off like an arogant arsehole. [11:23] it was not my intention to do so. [11:23] :P I think you just like whining people up. [11:23] That is only bad if you _are_ an arogant arsehole of course [11:23] you get a rush from it. [11:24] alienBOB: i do my best not to be! [11:24] Axius (n=fd@92.82.74.114) joined ##slackware. [11:24] nickstolen: i'm certainly not the nicest person in this channel, but in my own way i do my best to help people. [11:24] alienBOB, , sorry but i would disagree, speaking as an arrogant arsehole, it is okay to be one, as long as you hide it from others that can't appreciate it :P [11:25] lol [11:25] interesting discussion. [11:25] I can be an arrogant asshole at times, but other people have a right to confront me with that [11:25] alienBOB: I've been meaning to talk to you about that ... [11:25] jk :) [11:25] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-80-176.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:26] alienBOB: just like did, to confront me about this right now. [11:26] alienBOB: but you hold considerably more weight around here than i ever will :) [11:26] thepeng (n=master@offices.topimr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:27] thumbs: [11:27] spook: ummm? [11:27] thumbs: you know the one? thumbs are on hands! [11:27] briareus (n=briareus@mayo-nat2.mayo.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:29] ViN86 (i=ViN86@dhcp-18-111-42-7.dyn.mit.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:29] alienBOB: but circling back to our discussion, i entirely advocate trying different ways of managing software on your system, as long as the methods you try include the ways that many consider the best or right way, otherwise they are missing out on their education :) [11:31] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [11:31] Well yes, as you try different approaches to managing your computer(s) you will find out what works best for you [11:32] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-52-148.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:32] but only wanting to ever do things your way, without experimenting to find or try other ways, is truly the The Wrong Way (tm), do you agree? [11:32] When IPMI is used to kill the box (STONITH request) it fails to boot the kernel: [11:32] you guys are just cranky butts today because you are missing the excitement of win7 coming out [11:32] "No setup signature found..." [11:32] spook let it go .... seriously [11:33] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:33] nickstolen: if this discussion bothers you, either /ignore us, or butt out. [11:33] or leave the channel, no ones stopping you. [11:33] i had the rc for win7, best windows so far... which makes it about equivalent to the sloppiest linux build around [11:33] i have the RTM in a vm, its much snappier than vista [11:34] yes daddy. want a lolli? [11:34] thepeng: can you mention a quick list of things you noticed as improved ? [11:34] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:34] yasu (n=adminroo@tetkyo039020.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [11:34] rk4n3: UAC. [11:34] Windows 7 came out today? [11:35] lets take this to ##slackofftopic [11:35] spook: UAC = user access control ? [11:35] 1.uac is muc more manageable 2.faster boot time, seems to make more use of 64bit architecture 3.easier to get rid of windows option you don't want [11:35] alienBOB: dont suppose youve ever seen this? (When IPMI is used to kill the box (STONITH request) it fails to boot the kernel: "No setup signature found..." [11:35] prlly the three biggest things i noticed [11:35] if i powercycle.. it comes back up ok [11:35] thepeng: cool [11:36] Zordrak: the bootloader or kernel error? [11:36] and yes uac is user account control. so no obnoxious window that says are you sure you want to open the folder documents? [11:36] i honestly dont know if its lilo or kernel [11:36] stunix (i=1000@80.239.63.243) joined ##slackware. [11:36] haha :) [11:37] slider bar for uac, you can make it less obtusive, really easily [11:37] must be kernel cause people with grub report an identical error [11:37] (but many different causes) [11:37] Zordrak: kgdb? [11:37] buh? [11:37] debug the kernel :P [11:37] yeah.. ill get right on that [11:38] :P [11:38] something i've been doing lots and lots lately. [11:39] I lost all faith in windows when it took an hour to update on shutdown and my battery died on the train. next time I booted ms installer was corrupt and windows couldnt do anything besides open my desktop [11:39] i called tech support and the indian gentleman said it wasn't possible... [11:39] THATs when you lost faith? [11:39] Mr-S^b32_ (n=Mr-S^b32@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:39] oops sorry [11:39] I never used windows again after that [11:39] is what I meant [11:39] thepeng: you hung in there fairly well :) [11:39] thepeng: you need to go read up on autopatched. [11:39] autopatcher rather [11:40] best piece of software ever. [11:40] on it [11:40] i would argue, it is better than wsus [11:40] im used to wendorful login cycles like: ACTIVATE ME! -- /me activates -- Win logs out -- I log in -- ACTIVATE ME! -- continues ad nauseum [11:40] my office uses windows only, so in order to switch to linux i had to have a couple knock down darg out fights with my boss [11:40] drag rather [11:40] or the even better login logs outmagain straight away [11:40] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-107.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:41] wow, freenode or something is horrible today! lag 9.6s [11:41] my company is still on xp and will likely stay there for several years more [11:42] thepeng: same at my office. our sysadmin has a woody for windows. my linux boxes will be phased out at work in the next little while. vista is coming....blech:( [11:42] fjji (n=ojof@92.82.74.114) joined ##slackware. [11:42] I wonder if ReactOS will ever be viable ? [11:42] hitest: oh dear god [11:42] fjji (n=ojof@92.82.74.114) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:42] rk4n3: probably not [11:43] haiku looks cool, and is self hosting now [11:43] hmm ... seems like a pretty cool idea though [11:43] i think wine is worth more effort honestly [11:44] our IT guy is hilarious, im pretty sure he hasn't even read a wiki. he claimed he "installed" clean access agent on my laptop... he spent an hour on my computer and apparently didnt realize it couldnt be done [11:44] unchained browsing for me [11:44] hehehe [11:44] whats clean access agent? [11:44] yeah [11:44] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [11:45] its a cisco piece of software that won't let anything but ie connect to the internet [11:46] and blocks "offensive" material [11:46] Axius (n=fd@92.82.74.114) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:46] his failure means I get the full benefit of t1 for all my bittorrenting [11:46] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-250-13.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:46] lol [11:46] yep, great [11:47] thepeng: our IT manager is very smart, he know linux, unix. he just has a real bias in favour of windows which I find odd. [11:47] knows [11:47] we run the cisco vpn with clean access agent as well [11:47] fun fun [11:47] hitest: I think its because when theyre managing multiple computers with people of varying experience its too much to handle with linux [11:47] your average receptionist doesn't want to edit her xorg file to make twinview work properly [11:48] or his... [11:48] same here, about 1000 laptops in fhe field and some struggle to turn it on [11:48] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-250-13.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:48] Mr-S^b32 (n=sven@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:49] haldir: thats my favorite part of linux, since I switched my friends have never managed to download 80s hair metal during a party [11:49] its great [11:49] agreed. I'm low maintenance tho and I can admin my own units. however, he likes to have total control over all deployed systems, and software . [11:49] hitest: i think thats a prereq for it guys [11:49] yes [11:49] whoops big boss is here. time not worked 1:24. a success [11:50] thepeng (n=master@offices.topimr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:50] hehe, now that was funny [11:51] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [11:54] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@62-30-173-219.cable.ubr12.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[12:22] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.74.114) left irc: "Leaving" [12:22] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [12:22] juice (n=juice@cpe-65-28-97-1.kc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:22] oldude67 (n=scrappyc@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:23] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:24] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [12:24] briareus (n=briareus@mayo-nat2.mayo.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:25] incognitus (n=neam@212.233.209.134) joined ##slackware. [12:25] adamk_ (n=adamk@c-68-45-151-98.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] hello all [12:27] i have serious problem [12:28] i cannot use my usb flash drive [12:28] i need it [12:28] Action: jg71 applies magic [12:28] try now [12:28] it is not mounted by kde, but kernel modules are loaded [12:29] can you mount it manually? [12:29] Does it show up in 'dmesg' when you insert it? [12:29] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [12:29] yasu (n=adminroo@tetkyo039020.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) left irc: "leaving" [12:29] my old card reader doesnt work on newer kernels, since .28.x ... very annoying, but i couldnt be bothered sending a report to those usb madmen at the helm [12:31] thepeng (n=master@offices.topimr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:36] Bassist (n=bass@93.133.129.159) joined ##slackware. [12:37] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FBC6F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:39] really quite dead in here :P [12:40] sanity maintenance [12:40] nope [12:41] silence, patience... [12:41] metrofox: g'day. [12:41] yeah I have the irc client there and only mogi is there :P [12:41] I read gay O.O [12:41] lol [12:42] I mean on the other console :P [12:42] it's gay friday somewhere [12:42] ehh please help me finish what I have started [12:42] gonna have a shower and gonna buy the bread(fucked bread -.-") [12:42] its been friday for 42 minutes here [12:42] root_, dare i ask? [12:42] time to start drinking. [12:43] well when i say start, i mean continue [12:43] ehehe [12:43] it's 18:48 here I'm still on Thursday [12:43] :D [12:43] spook: lol [12:43] and when i say continue, i mean i didnt stop. [12:43] and when you say stop spook? [12:43] my boss finally went to sleep [12:43] i dont know the meaning of the word! [12:43] how do i upgrade my distro to some recent version of libraries ... [12:43] what time is it in pattaya, thepeng ? [12:44] root_: can you explain what you mean? [12:44] 9 am im in san diego [12:44] choosing the current from slackpkg downgraded all my libs ... [12:44] hes about 80 years olod [12:44] root_: did you multi-lib your system? [12:44] root_, which version of slackware are oyu on? [12:44] every day he comes in at 9, falls asleep at his desk till 11, says he going to get lunch and never comes back [12:44] 13.0 [12:45] multi-lib ? could you be more clear, please ? [12:45] root_: i'm going to take a stab in the dark here, and assume that you multi-libed your system, then upgraded the system, without having blacklisted gcc and glibc [12:45] incognitus: you need to be a member of the plugdev group [12:46] root_: multilib, in this context means adding the 32bit versions of gcc and several libaries to be able to compile and run 32bit programs on slackware64 [12:46] spook : no I have the 32 bit machine ,, never mixed anything what have 64 in name [12:46] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:46] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [12:46] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: "Leaving." [12:47] root_: so what did you upgrade from, to, with what? [12:47] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [12:47] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:48] ehh I had the slackware 13.0 and did slackpg upgrade from the mirror tagged as current in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [12:48] Bassist (n=bass@93.133.129.159) left irc: "Leaving" [12:48] okay. and what problem did you have? [12:49] so .. since you're running -current .. you'd know what you be doing right? [12:49] [12:49] all the libraries seems to be downgraded : especially the kde whihc went from 4.2.4 to 3.5.something [12:49] BP{k}: no that'd be silly to assume. [12:49] spook: oh yeah. Silly me! what was I thinking. :) [12:49] root_: that doesn't sound right. what was this mirror you used in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors ? [12:49] root_: uhm, what mirror did you use? [12:50] BP{k}: would you support either zordrak or myself being ops? [12:50] spook: Never [12:50] straterra: i wasnt consulting you :) [12:50] That's fine..and I wasn't speaking only for myself [12:51] ehh ftp.pieskovisko.sk/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0 [12:51] doesnt look like -current to me [12:51] root_: you said you used a mirror marked as "current" .. thats a mirror marked as 13.0. [12:51] lol [12:52] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:52] spook: no comment :) I think if someone would be okay for ops, the current ops should sort that out. [12:52] 550: /pub/slackware/slackware-13.0 no such file or directory [12:52] root_: drop to init 1 and upgrade back to current if you like. [12:52] Evilwrite (n=root@201.48.176.68) joined ##slackware. [12:52] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:52] Evilwrite kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [12:52] There goes the failbus [12:52] BP{k}: its more from the point of view of having someone trusted during the time when zordrak and i are most active. [12:53] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] Yes..because you two are the only ones in here and should be catered to. [12:53] hmm sorry mistake of course ... the versiuon in use is in /pub/slackware/slackware-current [12:53] not to speak for the ops, but your history will almost guarentee you to not become one [12:53] heh. that mirror doesn't even carry 13.0 but does carry -current (which is very old ... last changelog entry Tue Dec 9 00:00:23 CST 2008 [12:53] thrice`: yes i completely agree. [12:53] but i think zordrak would be good. [12:54] oops67 (n=scrappyc@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] so not only is it completely out of date .. it also goes completely against the mirror guidelines set by slackware.com [12:54] I don't [12:54] BP{k} ok so which one would you advice ? [12:54] straterra: yes well, its no secret that zordrak and i dont get on with you. [12:55] It's no secret that most of the regulars don't get on with either of you either [12:55] root_: slackware.no is a good one. [12:55] root_: also the tds mirror [12:55] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-131-116.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:55] well I just advised PiterPun1 to remove that mirror in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [12:56] straterra: oh, we're not THAT hated. [12:56] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-144-193.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [12:56] BP{k}: you like me, right? [12:57] root_: because of how dated that kernel is I suggest dropping to init 1 for the upgrade. [12:57] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [12:57] Nick change: stamp -> stamp__ [12:57] Nick change: stamp__ -> stamp [12:57] i suggest starting over if you can. [12:57] s/kernel/source [12:57] ok thanks [12:58] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [12:58] root_: good luck :D [12:59] spook: dammit, buy me dinner and beer first . :P [12:59] root_ (i=0@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "Killed (BillGates (Lindows 98 -- jizz your pants!))" [13:00] BP{k}: i'd love to buy you dinner and a whole jug of beer :)' [13:00] Beer comes in jugs? [13:00] anyway, back later .. time to take the dog out for a bit. [13:00] straterra: where i come from :) [13:00] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:01] 1140ml seems to be the standard jug size [13:02] err boobs? [13:02] oh sry [13:03] ha! [13:03] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:05] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-62-83.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:05] every time someone speaks of boobs, hitest is here [13:05] lol [13:05] it's like he encourages it [13:05] oh please [13:06] jeev, same with you and...well, you know. [13:06] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:06] thrice`, did you tell her ? [13:06] boobs are nature's nose homing device. [13:06] incognitus (n=neam@212.233.209.134) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:06] i used stacklets xen slackware image and messed with it, got it running on my 'dtc-xen' box [13:06] benchmark shows 4 points over gaybian [13:06] sexy [13:06] Whats gaybian? [13:06] debian [13:06] That's a big typo [13:07] not as much as you being on the wrong network, you should be on efnet. [13:07] ^ [13:07] jg71, some are scared of boobs [13:07] And you should be in the aborted dumpster [13:07] Your point? [13:07] well. not me, jeev [13:07] certified smutpeddler [13:07] straterra, i actually was.. what's your point? [13:07] _MaggoT_ (n=NewBie@125.166.95.69) joined ##slackware. [13:07] jg71, who isn't one these days [13:08] You should've been left there [13:08] heh, true that [13:08] straterra, a mother rat liked me so she took me. what can i say [13:08] That you're going to end it all [13:08] ok... [13:09] oops67 (n=scrappyc@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:09] for the lurkers: debian stable is pronounced debian stale [13:09] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [13:09] haha, a guy got busted for child porn and he said his cat downloaded it. he says his cat is able to surf the internet. [13:09] most cats are these days. under which rock have you been hiding, mrselfpwn ? [13:10] hundreds of pictures were found on his computer [13:10] awesome linky [13:10] sec [13:10] Only hundreds? [13:10] i_is_broke (n=scrappyc@c-98-212-246-217.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:10] I still can't tell if you're a Mr. Self Pwn, or a Mrs. Elf Pwn [13:10] my thoughts exactly, straterra [13:10] http://boingboing.net/2009/08/07/accused-florida-man.html [13:10] latter [13:11] Is it a little tense in here, or is it just me? :P [13:11] i like it ambigious [13:11] ah [13:11] amphotere athmospheres ftw [13:12] He is jail, with bail set at a quarter million dollars. His cat roams free. [13:12] thats the problem with today's judiciary system [13:12] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [13:12] not enough cat convictions [13:12] yes [13:12] i agree [13:12] copy con cat ... [13:14] mice of mine surf better...ah ah [13:14] actually it was 1000's of images [13:14] http://carryonmywayward.com/blog/?p=340 [13:15] so, why do you post the link here? not exactly entertainment [13:15] i axed for it [13:15] jeez look at his face. of course he did it [13:15] cats are gay [13:15] jg71: neither is your cynicism [13:16] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:16] true that. but my nick isnt a pun [13:17] with that ... off to ... [13:17] jg71, toys r us [13:17] only a pun to an idiot [13:18] _lyte_ (n=kryptoz@resv-196.noc.cv.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:20] egregor_ (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [13:20] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl14-235.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[13:30] antiwire: grats [13:30] antiwire: so what're you gonna do with it? new job? new position? more moneyz? [13:30] bah, tabfail. amazon10x: what kind of keyboard? [13:30] BP{k}: ha. http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=081 [13:31] looks nice so far [13:31] amazon10x: already have the job. This was so I could do installs as a certified dude [13:32] egregor_ (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [13:32] antiwire: you mean "so your boss can charge the client more money since you're now 'certified'", right? ;) [13:32] hahah exactly [13:33] my job is so boring i might die [13:33] seriously. like im fading away from boredom [13:34] it even makes my irc chats boring. see? [13:34] thepeng: sorry, what were you saying? ;) [13:34] yeah, way to kill the mood [13:35] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-62-83.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:35] amazon10x: looks beautiful. i have the natural 4000 [13:35] BP{k}: lol [13:35] lol well misery loves company. continue with your exhortations. ima stare at my cubicle wall some more [13:35] lol [13:35] pin some tacks to it and make a face. that's always fun [13:36] thepeng: go flog yourself with a cat5 cable? [13:36] Level-Zero (n=Level-Ze@196.202.27.173) left irc: "Leaving." [13:36] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:37] theyre all in the walls [13:37] ive been slowly drilling a hole in my desk with a paper clip [13:37] maybe i can work on that some more [13:37] Nick change: egregor_ -> egregor [13:37] build a desktop trebuchet [13:37] http://boards.bootsnall.com/top-ten-things-to-do-when-bored-at-work-t1196.html [13:38] bp{k} now thats an idea [13:38] Declare "Tawk Like a Gangstah Day", and re-type all 'yo e-maylz in urban-onics. [13:39] ooh no, im doing number 8. I need to find a fundie christian chat [13:40] Level-Zero (n=Level-Ze@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [13:40] http://img.rlt.com/x/10201.jpg [13:40] heh [13:40] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.89.135) joined ##slackware. [13:40] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.219.183) joined ##slackware. [13:41] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-122-36.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:41] bp{k} whoaaa... I could launch the cruddy pentium 2 desktop they gave me like a mile with that thing [13:42] Level-Zero (n=Level-Ze@196.202.27.173) left ##slackware. [13:42] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:43] thepeng: I doubt that ... it looks bigger than it is "Height: 18" at the main axle, 32" to the tip of the arm. Length: 22" Width: 18" [13:43] i like number 4 [13:43] 4. Arrange a bunch of little army men on your desk. Aim them all at one of your coworkers. Insist that it's "purely a defensive measure". [13:43] ah, well maybe I could hit the director in the face with it. Saving me many angry glances [13:43] but they say you get about 40 - 60 feet with the included wooden pballs. [13:43] hehe Im alone in a far corner of an office built for 20, with 5 employees [13:43] lol [13:44] in that case, make your cubacle bigger. [13:44] 7. Clean your keyboard. With q-tips. And water. And go key by key until it's spotless. <-- I do that anway . maybe I am just OCPD [13:44] >< [13:44] I take all the keys out to get the hair out too [13:44] yeah no I clean all my hardware every sunday cause im weird [13:44] BP{k}, why waste your time [13:44] get a new keyboard [13:45] laptorp [13:45] Uhm..he doesnt have a cheap keyboard [13:45] oh [13:45] repaint the letters back on the keyboard [13:45] I don't either [13:45] thepeng: Heh that IS weird. [13:45] :) [13:45] mrselfpwn: ... what ... letters? [13:45] i love cheap keyboards [13:45] epaphus (n=unix3@190.10.68.228) joined ##slackware. [13:45] yep I hate the little crudlets I can see between my keys [13:45] I hate cheap keyboards [13:45] jinjii (n=fabio@host189-17-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:45] they drive me to madness [13:45] they all appear to be toast crumbs but I dont eat toast [13:45] cheap keyboards are tools of the devil [13:45] nothing better than tossing the old and getting the new [13:46] heh [13:46] Hello, anybody know if there is anyway to tar a file fed on the fly? For example.. I have a mysqldump output that i want to pipe in to tar so it automatically outputs the compressed file..? [13:46] Yes [13:46] pipe it [13:46] craaaaap. the keyboard is missing batteries. now i gotta go to the store [13:46] amazon10x: don't forget to restart your keyboard ;) [13:46] oh man, wireless.. ? [13:46] wireless is lame [13:47] dude, i gotta have the wireless [13:47] i cant figure out the point, especially with laptops. You sit close enough to read your screen so you sit close enough to type [13:47] do you has it one a flatscreen tv or something? [13:47] this has a touchpad integrated on it, so i can kick up my feet, and just chillax [13:47] coo [13:47] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:47] i hope i get fired [13:47] why peng [13:48] he's bored [13:48] haha [13:48] straterra, can you provide an example? it doesnt work like this # mysqldump -u root db name | tar zxvfp /tmp/test.tar.gz [13:48] tar: Failed open to read on /tmp/test.tar.gz: No such file or directory [13:48] b/c this is the most boring job ever. i do tech support for a cruddy web application for school districts and no one ever, ever calls [13:48] because no one uses it [13:48] and my bosses get mad at me because im not on the phone [13:48] so use your time to learn [13:48] thepeng: learn something on the job [13:48] durrr [13:48] I am, slackware [13:48] then use your newly acquired skillz to get a new job [13:48] epaphus: replace x with c [13:49] hrm, maybe like a network admin cert [13:49] "my job is slow so I'll just sit on my finger and rotate [13:49] end quote [13:49] lol antiwire [13:49] epaphus: x->xtract c->create [13:49] www.doc-tracking.com [13:49] epaphus: try " | tar -czf .tgz [13:49] thats my company, its even boring to look at [13:49] alisonken1home, thanks [13:49] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [13:50] sorry - forgot: " " | tar -czf .tgz -" <-- the source for the tar command is the dash (which means stdin) [13:50] alisonken1home, thanks again [13:51] if you ant to see what tar is seeing, add a "v" to the options, so it would be "-czvf" [13:51] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:51] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [13:51] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [13:53] is there a way to move lilo from the mbr onto a different partition so I can delete the one its on right now? [13:53] _MaggoT_ (n=NewBie@125.166.95.69) left irc: [13:53] or would I have to use a boot disk and just do it all over again [13:54] you can use pkgtools right? [13:54] y0 mrselfpwn [13:54] ah I bet you could, I shall investigate. thanks [13:55] np, [13:55] pkgtool actually [13:55] y0 fire|bird [13:55] how goes it? [13:55] goes great, thanks. you? [13:55] alisonken1home, well, it seams that | tar -cvzf /tmp/test.tgz doesnt work.. it gives this error mysqldump: Got errno 32 on write ... would you know why? [13:55] not too bad. looking after my niece [13:55] yep liloconfig is under select system setup scripts. great [13:56] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@aa20060611363b8b1fd4.userreverse.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [13:56] it has something to do with the pipe.. because without piping it it does output the dump [13:56] epaphus: you missed the second line - I forgot you have to have a dash after the filename for tar otherwise it doesn't know where the source is [13:57] "tar -cvzf /tmp/test.tgz -" <--- notice the trailing dash [13:57] got it [13:57] mrselfpwn: I had asked you last night if you were still dabbling in Sabayon a bit, and then my connection went out. :P I had thought of putting that on that spare drive instead of Fedora. [13:58] hi fire|bird [13:58] hey hitest, how are you? [13:59] fire|bird: I am excellent thank you. how are you? [13:59] fire|bird: oh, i don't use it on my systems though i installed it on my brother's computer and he likes it. [13:59] hitest: I'm great, thanks. [13:59] i know how to manage it pretty well though [14:00] mrselfpwn: yeah, I thought it was great when I used it on the laptop for a bit, I don't know, I might install it, might not on that spare drive, I got caught in dependency issues yesterday with Fedora. :P [14:00] alisonken1home, it treats the trailing slash as a file it wants to open.. :( tar: Unable to access -: No such file or directory [14:01] gtg, bbl [14:01] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-250-13.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:01] later hitest [14:01] later fire|bird [14:01] oh really? i haven't tried fedora though have been interested just to see what it's all about. [14:02] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-250-13.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:02] I hear it's repos are more aimed at enterprise type stuff. [14:02] Action: Lord_Khelben sets fire|bird on fire to be reborn from his ashes and forget about installing sabyon [14:02] epaphus: ok - so you just need to backup the text output of myslqdump? [14:02] Action: Nick_Patterson wonders if it's a good thing that there are so many Linux distributions. [14:02] alisonken1home, yes, compressed that [14:02] that is [14:02] epaphus: wait - trailing slash or trailing dash? [14:02] mrselfpwn: yeah, I'm using 12 beta though, but for the development tools, etc. It failed because it'd try to remove dev tools that it depended on to install the other tools. :P So I had to manually deselect the ones it set for removal. [14:02] ViN86 (i=ViN86@dhcp-18-111-42-7.dyn.mit.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [14:03] alisonken1home, soryr i meant dash. i use dash [14:03] haha, hey Lord_Khelben, how are you? [14:03] tired but nice [14:03] how about you [14:03] great, thank you. :) [14:03] epaphus: tar is really used for multiple files/directories, so a better option might be "mysqldump | gzip >/tmp/test-mysqlump.gz [14:04] mrselfpwn: Aside from those dep issues, Fedora 12 Beta has ran really nice, speedy boot, and stable. [14:04] fire|bird: sounds typical [14:04] hmm ill use gzip then :) [14:05] any good cfdisk tutorials around? [14:05] fire|bird, giving up fedora already? [14:05] mrselfpwn: yeah. It doesn't use the nodoka theme in this beta, but it is installable. [14:05] thrice`: nah, not yet I don't think. I got those issues straightened out. [14:05] cool :) I've only had 1 problem so far [14:06] thepeng: what kind of tutorial do you need? cfdisk just partitions your drive. not a whole lot to it [14:06] the package-kit backend had died, so anything package-related was just failing. restarted it, and all was well [14:06] partition layouts are for your determination as far as what you need [14:06] thrice`: As far as nvidia drivers go, I have to wait for good ol nvidia to release something new. :P [14:06] especially with cfdisk. i would understand a tutorial for sfdisk but cfdisk is straightforward [14:06] alison: I want to delete my windows partition and have my linux one eat it. ive always muddle trhough cfdisk and I want to know exactly what im doing for once [14:07] and im a complete linux noob [14:07] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.76.5) joined ##slackware. [14:07] you want parted if you want to resize, otherwise you take a chance on blowing everything off and having to reinstall [14:07] your windows partition is before the linux one ? [14:07] unfortunately yes [14:07] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.245) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:07] i don't know if resize works in that case [14:08] you can make your windows partition a small one (like 1G), and turn it into your /boot directory [14:08] check with parted as alisonken1home said (gparted even better) [14:08] thrice`: It defaults to using kms for nvidia and uses the nouveau driver, and for gnome 3 in Fedora, you need 3d. :P [14:08] there is gnome 3 ? [14:08] ah alright, ill look through gparted. i know i got it already in preparation for this [14:08] Lord_Khelben: in the making [14:08] i got windows to install to my 3rd partition and it booted fine [14:09] how do you choose number of jobs for make? number of cores+1 or number of threads+1 or what? [14:09] fire|bird, nice, is nouveau in a usable shape? [14:09] ah ok i had read about coding it [14:09] cores +1 [14:09] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.76.5) left irc: Client Quit [14:09] Lord_Khelben: Well, the beginnings of it. Ubuntu 9.10 has it and Fedora 12 does too, install gnome-shell and there it is. [14:09] john_dee: make -j [14:10] with an argument [14:10] thrice`: Seems to be, yeah. Just no 3d stuff. [14:10] man make [14:10] alisonken1home, thanks. just what i thought [14:10] Hey john_dee [14:10] fire|bird: any visual differences from 2.28 ? [14:10] whazup, fire|bird [14:10] thrice`: I quickly got xfce installed. :P [14:10] oh.. cores. didn't know that one [14:10] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [14:10] fire|bird, I actually like their gnome. it's very light compared to ubuntu [14:10] Lord_Khelben: Not really, no, pretty much the same. Tomboy (and maybe this is just a Fedora decision) but it's been replaced by Gnote. [14:10] and last nub question, is there a good way to update to slack 13 from 12.2 without reinstalling, Ive heard mixed things about update all [14:10] I guess it makes sense, since most of gnome is on the red hat payroll :D [14:11] thepeng read the README.TXT and UPGRADE.TXT files [14:11] in 13.0 [14:11] thepeng: sure, just follow the documentation. [14:11] thepeng: read the readme files and also slackpkg is your friend [14:11] UPGRADE.TXT and "CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [14:11] thrice`: Yeah, they have a very nice gnome implementation, but I installed all the DE's, gnome, xfce, and kde. :) [14:11] BP{k} thanks - keep forgetting changes&hints [14:11] ah alright, I hadnt downloaded 13 yet. tanku [14:11] fire|bird, how does kde compare? [14:12] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.76.5) joined ##slackware. [14:12] fire|bird, you checking out fedora 12? [14:12] thrice`: It's really nice. It's faster on slack than Fedora, but it's nice. [14:12] john_dee: yeah [14:12] fire|bird, have you tried that new gnome's task-oriented desktop thing? [14:12] ^) [14:13] john_dee: the gnome-shell? Not in Fedora, I can't without prop drivers, but I did in an Ubuntu VM and hated it. :P [14:13] Lucy (n=Luz@99.162.236.207) joined ##slackware. [14:13] lol. why? is it so bad? [14:14] john_dee: In my experience, YES!!. :P [14:14] Just oddly designed [14:14] For gnome being, make it simple for the user, this is a design disaster in that regard, imo. [14:14] its because deep inside you can't leave kde :P [14:15] :D [14:15] Lord_Khelben: I'm using xfce, have been for over a week now. :P [14:15] xfce is awesome [14:15] Lord_Khelben: agreed. :) [14:15] fire|bird, oh, well. is it in karmic beta? [14:15] I simply have a strong aversion to putting gnome on a machine at all, so anything that requires it sorta drops like a rock in my "consider" list [14:16] it would be more awesome though with a "window on top" and per-window-geometry settings [14:16] have a certain app start always in the same position and size like fluxbox and kde have [14:17] rk4n3, same feelings about kde here :p [14:17] john_dee: agreed [14:17] john_dee: yeah, it is. gnome-shell [14:17] tried intalling kde 3.5.10 thought it wld be easy... can't get it to startup after clearn install of 12.2 [14:18] from a end-user's usefulness point of view kde > gnome [14:19] xfce > kde > gnome. ;) [14:19] :P [14:19] ion3 very great too ;) [14:19] I think I'd prefer Gnome over KDE if I were to have to pick [14:19] Lord_Khelben, fluxbox > gnome > xfce >>>>> kde [14:19] for me wmaker > kde > xfce > all [14:19] fluxbox too <3 [14:19] kde 3.5 > * [14:19] ioo deco [14:19] Lucy: how did you try install kde ? [14:20] hey deco :P [14:20] vesa console ftw! [14:20] ioo Lord_Khelben firedix [14:20] slack 12.2 already contains kde 3.5.10 [14:20] fire|bird * io [14:20] fredoslack: hey [14:20] hey fire|bird [14:20] john_dee: I'm with ya - though ion3 is a close second :) [14:20] hey metrofox [14:20] full install 12.2 [14:20] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [14:20] icewm works on same install [14:20] fire|bird: what's up? =) [14:21] rk4n3, never heard of this one [14:21] not much, how about you? [14:21] Lucy: you run it by startx ? [14:21] kde says i am missing /usr/share/fonts/local [14:21] do you have any errors for us ? [14:21] john_dee: ion3 is great, it's just annoying that the right click menu doesn't stay, you have to hold the mouse button down. :P [14:21] startx [14:21] john_dee: I'd be competely console if text-mode browsing were at all feasibly functional ... ion3 is a very minimal tiling WM, its basically like "screen", except for root window instead of a console [14:21] fire|bird: not much too... I'm thinking about a girl and my hair and my slack [14:22] :D [14:22] ciao metrofox :) [14:22] come stai deco? [14:22] Ah, thinkin about a girl, well, at least you put the girl first, then hair and then slack. :P [14:22] metrofox: tired from soccer -_- i'm working on CMS php etc... [14:22] metrofox: and you ? [14:22] the only thing i don't like about "minimal" WMs (like fluxbox,ion,etc) is that i need to run several programs from other des [14:22] Level-Zero (n=Level-Ze@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [14:23] metrofox: your priority scheduler has a bug - slack should come before hair ;) [14:23] so if i am to run fluxbox+terminal+thunar i may very well run xfce [14:23] deco: tomorrow I'll play soccer with some friends of mine [14:23] rk4n3: That bug needs a patch, QUICK. :P [14:23] indeed :) [14:23] rk4n3, they're all casual :D [14:23] metrofox: awesome [14:23] su -c "upgradepkg slack_priority.tgz" ;) [14:23] epaphus (n=unix3@190.10.68.228) left irc: "Leaving" [14:24] Lucy: try to run it again and show us the error message [14:24] fire|bird: not much too... I'm thinking about a girl and my slack and my hair -- FIXED on Thu Oct 22 20:24:55 CEST 2009 [14:24] \o/ [14:24] metrofox: we are doing bad but our messiah is coming back :D, he was a professional soccer player for like 6 years [14:24] rk4n3: alright, close that bug out. :P [14:24] its on another box.. how do i put error message in here? [14:25] metrofox,fire|bird: OK, now we have a usable system :) [14:25] wrote them down.. only 2 [14:25] deco: are you playing in championship? [14:25] rk4n3: thank you guys :( I put my slack 3rd [14:25] metrofox: it's a just a league but a very hard one [14:26] it's just* [14:26] deco: so if you play there you shouldn't bad at all [14:26] Lucy: If it's more than a line or two, use a pastebin, such as pastebin.slackadelic.com [14:26] deco: my friends always call me because I'm really fast, maybe the fastest in my team(they're all 20-30 years old) [14:27] yeah hehe [14:27] don't know pastebin :( sorry [14:27] metrofox: most here are in their late 30s... [14:27] deco: I'm very little too ;) [14:27] i'm the youngest [14:27] metrofox: hahah perfect :P [14:27] Lucy: It's a website to paste errors, etc. that are more than a few lines, If you paste something here that is 4 lines or more in quick succession, you will get kicked out for a flood. [14:27] metrofox: not late 30s i mean late 20s.. [14:28] Lucy: run startx >& /tmp/somefile [14:28] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:28] and dcc send me that file [14:28] unless the other box doesn't have internet access [14:28] deco: ah ok ;) However tomorrow we've this match between friends though, not championship or league [14:28] fire|bird, kind of OS X-ish behaviour. can be annoying :D [14:28] john_dee: haha, yeah. [14:28] metrofox: yeah ^_^ fun [14:29] deco: my brother was one of the best players in Palermo [14:29] john_dee: It's just an odd ui experience, I can't really even explain it. :P http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Screenshots [14:29] (ww) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/local/" does not exist [14:29] rk4n3, i <3 screen, but, i guess i'm too addicted to windoze to move to such wm [14:29] windoze?!?!?! [14:29] deco: 'til he broke his clavicle... [14:30] windows? [14:30] yikes [14:30] jg71: Yes, Windows. :) [14:30] fire|bird, i've read some feedback that the desktop zooms in and out all the time. and that pissed the tester off %) [14:30] john_dee: Yes, it does. [14:30] Lucy: this seems like a warning not an error [14:31] http://zip.4chan.org/g/src/1256234639346.jpg <-- doesn't linus look like the other one in the picture? O.O [14:31] jg71, yep. it's october 22nd. windows 7 launch day [14:31] Action: john_dee feels like he can get kicked any time now [14:31] ^) [14:31] :p [14:31] john_dee: yup, and we're ALL excited about that, aren't we. :P [14:31] haha, totally [14:32] metrofox: oh :( [14:32] fire|bird: i didn't understand much from the screenshots. this gnome-shell is something like the kde activities ? [14:32] john_dee has been kicked from ##slackware (Banned: No windows talk allowed.) :P [14:32] deco: he's now a trainer =) [14:33] metrofox: oh that's cool that he still works with soccer :) [14:33] deco, my father was a soccer, he played in "Serie A" versus Juventus(one of the most known and powerful Italian teams) [14:33] it says the same thing if i do kdestart ... in any case kde stays on "initalizing service" then goes to black screen w/ mouse pointer that i can move but nothing else [14:34] metrofox: oh wow :D [14:34] my uncle is a team manager in Bologna, he played with Maradona in Naples, my grandfather played in Venice ;) [14:34] Lord_Khelben: Well, with gnome-shell, the Applications, Places, and System menus have been combined into Activities. When you click Activities, it opens that side bar type thing on the left where you can launch applications, open folders/files, etc. from. It just has annoying behavior like zooming in and out alot when switching apps and so forth. [14:34] metrofox: yeah i like jeventus because of buffon :P [14:34] deco: my uncle also played in Inter ;) [14:34] metrofox: :o [14:34] so something like kde activities [14:34] yeah, sort of. [14:35] deco: eheheheh :D [14:35] Lucy: i can't help you if i don't understand what is wrong [14:35] metrofox: that's awesome :D [14:35] the missing fontpath is a warning.something other is wrong [14:35] deco: yeah... the only one who doesn't like soccer, even watching is me :D [14:35] metrofox: wow played with maradona [14:35] metrofox: ahhhh :P [14:35] metrofox: brb gonna eat [14:35] deco: one year he played with him, I've got maradona's t-shirt [14:35] then i have to ctrl + alt F2 .. i will go run the command u gave me... thanks will be back [14:36] see ya deco ;) [14:36] Lord_Khelben: imo, however, kde functions much better than gnome3, does. I think for gnome 3 to be successful, it needs quite a bit of work, which I'm assuming it will get anyway. [14:36] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [14:36] Lucy (n=Luz@99.162.236.207) left irc: "Leaving" [14:36] She didn't have to leave to switch to a vt. :P [14:36] ctrl+alt f2 ? [14:37] but the problem is in the other box [14:37] yeah :P [14:37] it is there where she should run the command [14:37] She shall return. [14:37] oh thats quite some pun [14:37] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] i need to speak (type) english more clearly [14:38] Lord_Khelben: your english seems great to me. [14:38] oh, nice. aufs patched kernel is built. now will see if it boots :) [14:38] john_dee: good luck. :) [14:38] Action: Lord_Khelben crosses fingers for john_dee [14:38] thnx [14:38] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.227.14.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [14:39] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:40] fire|bird: mine is the worst ever -.- [14:40] metrofox: nah, deco's is even worse. ;) [14:41] and surprisingly, there's some worse than him. [14:41] fire|bird: it's already a miracle I speak English this way at my age :P [14:45] since you talked about soccer, 4 more minutes till the damn game finishes and i hope all these guys at the cafe will stop shouting [14:45] haha [14:45] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-107.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [14:45] every other day 20-30 guys fill the cafe and shout about everything [14:46] there are times i want to go shoot some of them :P [14:46] Action: fire|bird takes away all lethal weapons from Lord_Khelben. :P [14:46] LOL [14:46] cured my boredom. while my director was at lunch I took a screenshot of his windoze desktop, set it as his backround image and hid all his icons. [14:47] every greek guy watching a football (soccer) game has the impression that he is the best player/coach/whatever that exists [14:47] and has an opinion about everything [14:47] hahaha, nice thepeng [14:47] Action: fire|bird sees the words "You're Fired" in thepeng's future. :P [14:47] hehehe he hasnt come back yet. if I don't get fired for this then im stuck here forever [14:47] one can only hope [14:47] thepeng: a friend of mine had a windows screenshot as wallpaper on his solaris box [14:48] and some people tried to click the icons [14:48] yep, thats the point of my little operation [14:48] lol [14:48] and asked why they didn't work. i guess they missed the huge cde widgets [14:48] lol [14:48] okay hes back [14:49] he sat down, hes arranging his his take out box [14:49] turning on the monitor... [14:49] and....... [14:49] LOL "what the fuck?! my computer is totally frozen" [14:50] Action: fire|bird hears several explitives being expressed. :P [14:50] hahaha [14:50] he's clicking really hard [14:50] he just stormed out of the office [14:50] alberthfmn (n=alberthf@189.6.67.247) joined ##slackware. [14:50] thepeng: You should get this on video, youtube ftw!!!! [14:50] slackware 13 is the best. nice kde 4 [14:50] lol I wish I think hed figure me out if I were taping him [14:50] stable, etc... [14:50] i wonder where he went [14:51] to get the tech guy [14:51] thepeng: probably to the computer tech. :P [14:51] yep [14:51] Let's see if the tech figures it out. [14:51] I can hear them mumbling [14:51] okay he came back, hes doing a hard reset i think [14:51] "its the new worm. i'll need 2 days to fix it" :P [14:51] alberthfmn (n=alberthf@189.6.67.247) left irc: Client Quit [14:52] thepeng: haha, "wtf, it's STILL frozen" :P [14:52] Lord_Khelben: and $850 :P [14:52] hope so its windoze so we'll see in like five minutes when it boots [14:52] heheh yeah i forgot about that [14:52] how do you hide the icons ? [14:52] I dragged them all away [14:53] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [14:53] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:53] and do they stay hidden after the reboot ? [14:53] yeah, they do. [14:53] i use windows on virtualbox but don't have much knowledge of it [14:53] they should, theyre really not there anymore [14:53] There's a setting too that hides all desktop icons. [14:53] alright [14:53] awwwwwwwwwwwwww [14:53] but wouldn't the "start" button keep working ? [14:53] i dragged it down [14:53] haha [14:53] so its just a teensy little line [14:54] damnit! [14:54] ah the panel is hidden too [14:54] thepeng: what? [14:54] so he needs to press ctrl+f1 [14:54] he used another login [14:54] dang [14:54] :-W [14:54] [14:54] ill update when he tries to fix it, hes got a meeting soon so i guess he doesnt have time [14:54] lol [14:55] thepeng: you're a good prankster. Should have set it so the cd drive kept opening and closing too. :P [14:55] thepeng changed his nick to thepeng[fired] [14:55] bahaha [14:55] He'd thought the pc was possessed. [14:56] thepeng is now known as thepeng[fired] [14:56] nice prank.but maybe he haid some urgent work to do [14:56] i dont think you can make a setting like that in windowz [14:56] and now it goes back [14:56] thepeng: There's ways. ;) [14:56] not here, there is no urgent work here [14:56] There's ways to make a gazillion error messages pop up too. [14:57] If i were particularly malicious Id delete some of his registry keys [14:57] but if I knew about ctrl+f1 shortcut he should know it too [14:57] thepeng: ouch [14:57] I dont have enough faith in our tech guy to actually figure it out though [14:57] backup first. :P [14:58] thepeng: Could have made it so the desktop just showed a "No Signal" message for the Monitor. :P [14:58] you are both mean :P [14:58] AH awesome [14:58] leave the man alone [14:58] Theres this old dell mini, I was thinking about putting it behind his desk and plugging just the monitor into it [14:59] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.227.14.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:59] Lord_Khelben: Well, thepeng seems to want to get fired, that would do it I would think. :P [14:59] Axius_ (n=fd@92.85.219.183) joined ##slackware. [15:00] yep. yeah if i get fired I can get unemployment for the time between jobs [15:00] if i line up another job though ill do something spectacular [15:00] yeah but this way he upsets the man.he thinks that his box is broken [15:01] lord_khelben: nah hes getting whats coming to him [15:01] hes a total dick [15:01] i can't be that mean [15:01] you dont have my boss [15:01] maaybe ill undo it while hes in the meeting [15:01] sodu (n=john@host81-141-52-168.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:02] _MaggoT_ (n=NewBie@125.161.208.55) joined ##slackware. [15:02] http://imgur.com/GN6tV.png [15:02] what should i do with all this newfound bandwidth [15:02] thepeng: ya know what'd really torq him off, install Vista. :P [15:03] <_MaggoT_> clear [15:03] fail [15:03] bahaha [15:03] <_MaggoT_> :p [15:03] amazon10x: 10mb/sec ? [15:03] MB [15:03] alright folks lunch time, gbyes [15:03] thepeng (n=master@offices.topimr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:03] do you also have fast upstream ? [15:04] symmetrical [15:04] <_MaggoT_> Camarade_Tux : already try install wine on u slackware? [15:04] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "hard reboot" [15:04] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [15:04] download torrents of slackware and other distros and help in sharing them fast [15:05] alright [15:05] for the download stuff i don't know what you like. (porn would be an obvious choice :P ) [15:05] haha [15:05] What does mean to add a compact option to lilo.conf? [15:05] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:05] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-168.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:06] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: "ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzap ..... :)" [15:06] Axius: run "man lilo.conf" and read about it [15:06] what torrent client should i get to use at the console [15:06] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@187.15.9.141) joined ##slackware. [15:06] rtorrent [15:06] it's awesome [15:06] for a faster boot [15:06] amazon10x: i know of rtorrent [15:06] Action: amazon10x apt-gets rtorrent [15:06] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Client Quit [15:07] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [15:07] there's rtorrent, transmission-cli, and iirc, ctorrent. [15:07] i uze azureus for both cli/X [15:07] axius_ it's safe to ignore that option [15:07] azu has a cli interface? hmm.... [15:07] Axius: with a few words, it doesn't hurt to have it [15:07] jg71: you download some jars (2 i think) and then you can run it from cli [15:08] but you need to have a interface [15:08] i use a remote web plugin [15:08] never tried that stunt. now it's too late, im hooked on rtorrent [15:09] yeah i also use rtorrent, but at some point a remote box of mine rebooted and i couldn't login to the gui to run azureus, so i found this way [15:09] but yeah, for some sites i use azu or vuze or whatever its successor is called. better peer view/options when seeding [15:10] i only got 150GB of bandwidth with this server. i should've negotiated more [15:10] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [15:11] Action: _MaggoT_ when my connection like this http://www.thelocal.se/7869/20070712/ :( [15:11] i need 300 gb/mo min. ... i got much less.... gotta be picky [15:12] Action: alienBOB uses plain bittorrent, or ctorrent [15:12] i started with plain bittorrent too [15:13] last time i checked ktorrent it was nice, close to azu IIRC, but it was a bit unstable so i went back to azu [15:13] the only drawback i can find with cli torrent clients is that i must download the whole torrent [15:13] quite some moons ago, i guess [15:13] sometimes i want to get 5 files from a torrent with 500 files [15:13] Lord_Khelben, you dont need to with rtorrent [15:13] kiyoura (n=kiyoura@pool-173-79-85-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] ah thanks. i didn't know that [15:14] agentc0re|work (n=jon@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [15:14] Lucy (n=Luz@99.162.236.207) joined ##slackware. [15:14] y0 agentc0re|work [15:14] welcome back Lucy [15:14] main view, ->, file list, choose entry and press Space to toggle [15:14] i can't figure out how to see the number of peers in rtorrent [15:14] fire|bird: yo! [15:14] or * to toggle everything [15:14] ;) [15:14] agentc0re|work: How goes? [15:14] it's a mess to navigate thru large torrents tho, but it works [15:15] fire|bird: good. today is pretty chill at work for the most part. [15:15] Lucy: what happened with kde ? [15:15] same thing [15:15] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.219.183) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:15] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:15] did ctrl+alt +F2 [15:16] What should I comment out in /etc/rc.M for a faster boot? [15:16] fire|bird: how about you? [15:16] why did you do ctrl+alt+f2 when X doesn't work ? [15:16] switched user login to icwm [15:16] agentc0re|work: great, thanks. I've been messing with Fedora on a spare hdd. :) [15:16] ah icewm works ? only kde doesnt ? [15:16] that's a feature. :P [15:16] Lucy: does this box have internet access ? [15:16] hahaha [15:16] fatal server error.. had to shut down and startx for icewm [15:17] yes [15:17] am on it now [15:17] agentc0re|work: I got the dep issues resolved, guess the cause? It was trying to remove things that were deps of what I was trying to install. :P [15:17] fire|bird: ...... [15:17] fire|bird: are you into geek S&M? [15:17] Lucy: run "startx >& /tmp/startx.out" for kde [15:17] OMG [15:17] and then run "cat /tmp/startx.out | nc -q 2 adsl14-235.kav.forthnet.gr 6850" [15:18] this command will send me the output file so i can pastebin it and we can read the error message [15:18] ViN86 (i=ViN86@18.111.42.7) joined ##slackware. [15:18] k... going to startup another box so i can switch back and forth [15:19] is etherwake on slackbuilds somewhere? [15:19] fire|bird: isn't that new fedora in beta or something.. [15:19] yeah, Fedora 12 Beta [15:19] I'm also installing Sabayon in a VM. :P [15:19] fire|bird: wow, you really are into geek S&M... [15:20] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:20] fire|bird: might as well try to install gnome by hand into slackware... i think that'd keep ya busy for a while :P [15:21] http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/05/22/crimesider/entry5034348.shtml [15:22] was writing all that down [15:22] :( poor girl [15:22] and very beautiful too [15:23] going to log out of icewm, login to kde then do what u said right? [15:23] gar0t0: ... wow. [15:23] thanks so much Lord_khelben [15:23] Lucy: you say "login" ? [15:23] when you say "login" ? [15:23] you are running kdm ? [15:24] blogs/2009/05/22 ? october is 05 ? [15:24] switch user profiles on this box with kde [15:24] Lucy: if you what you do involves running startx i am ok with it [15:25] agentc0re|work: hahaha, yeah, I'm sure it would. [15:25] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-107.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:25] startx >& /tmp/startx.out [15:25] welcome back john_dee. success? [15:25] k... got it brb [15:25] Axius_ (n=fd@92.85.219.183) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:26] Lucy (n=Luz@99.162.236.207) left irc: "Leaving" [15:26] Axius (n=fd@92.85.219.183) joined ##slackware. [15:26] Lucy (n=Luz@99.162.236.207) joined ##slackware. [15:27] gar0t0: at least she is alive. i hope she gets well. it isn't a little thing to be ran over by a grand cherokee [15:27] (i choose to forget that the driver was her father) [15:27] ooooh. typing this on my new wireless keyboard [15:27] going to just going to open terminal and switch in there and see what happens [15:27] fire|bird, so so. it booted, but swore about sound and didn't want to connect to wlan. but that's nothing. i guess i fscked up with either config or patching. in short, aufs-util didn't compile giving me some shit about undefined functions :\ [15:27] OH YEAH. touchpad on here is freakin awesome [15:28] Lord_Khelben: She is very, very lucky. [15:28] it has a touchpad ? [15:28] yeah [15:28] in teh top right it has that direction pad [15:28] it's actually touch sensitive [15:28] i hate touchpads :P [15:28] john_dee: Well, not a complete disaster then. :P [15:29] strankan` (n=user@c-decd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:29] and the aufs author's english is so japanese that i'm having tough times figuring out what he's trying to say %) [15:29] its not going to work this way.... brb [15:29] fire|bird, hehe. that's an optimistic pov you got there :D [15:29] KnightTwist (n=oliver@85.218.94.79) joined ##slackware. [15:29] john_dee: yeah, I always stay optimistic. :) [15:30] KnightTwist (n=oliver@85.218.94.79) left irc: Client Quit [15:30] Lord_Khelben: eh, they're alright. i like this because it's on the keyboard so i can kick back and still use the mouse [15:30] Lucille (n=Luz@99.162.236.207) joined ##slackware. [15:31] root_____ (i=0@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:31] Lucy (n=Luz@99.162.236.207) left irc: Client Quit [15:31] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:33] hi hello I upgraded to current but kde won't start instead I get in the /var/log/xorg.0.log EE XKB : no components provided for device Virtual Core Keyboard [15:34] i am on cli prompt in profile for kde on other box how do i initiate chat there? [15:34] upgraded from what to current ? 13.0 ? [15:34] brb [15:35] root_____: i'd recommend not irc'ing as root either. [15:35] Lucille: if you run the commands i gave you, you will send me the file [15:35] then we can talk from this box [15:35] Lord_Khelben : from Lord_Khelben [15:36] ? [15:36] wow, I didn't know Lord_Khelben was a version of slackware. :P [15:36] Axius (n=fd@92.85.219.183) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:36] yeah Pat named a version after me :) [15:36] Lord_Khelben: When were you released? :P [15:37] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.89.135) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:37] sorry I mean 13.0 [15:38] k .. did the startx .& /tmp/startx.out and i am stuck at "Initializing Services" [15:38] if i remember correctly upgrading from 13.0 to -current wouldn't cause any trouble with X [15:38] lets see if i can do the cat part now... brb [15:38] Lucille: >& not .& right ? [15:39] root_____: it would be better if you pastebin the whole xorg log [15:41] bye for now [15:41] Axius (n=fd@92.85.219.183) joined ##slackware. [15:42] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:43] Which command i need to run to see the boot scripts? [15:43] k right from $ this prompt [15:44] Axius: less /etc/rc.d/rc.* [15:44] strankan (n=user@c-decd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:44] one of many commands [15:44] thanks [15:45] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-107.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [15:45] Lucille: nothing yet ? [15:45] take your time. i am just asking [15:46] I tried to send it but ... i did it from bash prompt in the kde user profile... show do fireup irc from prompt? [15:46] you ran the cat | nc command ? [15:46] i didn't get anything [15:47] DaveMustaine (n=noop2009@41.252.53.184) joined ##slackware. [15:47] DaveMustaine (n=noop2009@41.252.53.184) left ##slackware. [15:48] yes.. in the context of other lines u gave before... will try again shlld i run cat | nc first? [15:48] wait [15:48] first run "ls -l /tmp/startx.out" [15:49] That commad it's for shutdown. I want to see the text when the system bootup. [15:49] to make sure the file is there [15:49] Axius: the command i gave you will show every init script [15:49] you can navigate using :n for next file [15:49] if you want just the first system boot script read just rc.S [15:52] forward host lookup failed: unknow host [15:52] I made some modification in /etc/rc.M and something is wrong. [15:52] unknown host [15:53] cat /tmp/startx.out | nc -q 2 adsl14-235.kav.forthnet.gr 6850 [15:53] i copied the hostname from the irc [15:53] it should work fine [15:53] Axius: you should be very careful when you edit init scripts [15:53] because you may render the system unbootable [15:54] k [15:54] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-62-83.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: No route to host [15:54] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-47-35.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:54] brb [15:56] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:58] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: "That's my story, and I'm sticking to it." [15:58] Axius (n=fd@92.85.219.183) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:00] _MaggoT_: nah, I haven't had the time today, probably tomorrow however [16:00] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:02] y0 Camarade_Tux [16:05] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [16:06] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:06] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:07] where are the files from the kde seesion if theres an error ? [16:07] when i try to do the ls -l /tmp/startx.out it returns "no such file"..... do i need dhcpd to be running whn i boot up for this to work... because i don't [16:07] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [16:07] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-80-176.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:08] Lucille: then you didn't run the first command correctly [16:08] and the file wasn't created [16:08] its like kde session I don';t remember [16:08] HTTP://EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG/WIKI/CAPS_LOCK INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY IS CELEBRATED ON OCTOBER 22 EVERY YEAR. [16:08] every day is international day for something :P [16:09] paul424: /etc/kde/kdm/ contains the xsession files if you run kdm [16:09] agentc0re|work: WE DON'T CELEBRATE THAT HERE, GO TO #UBUNTU. ;) [16:09] john_dee (n=id@93.81.71.107) joined ##slackware. [16:10] john_dee: wb [16:10] <_MaggoT_> Camarade_Tux : ic [16:10] Lord_Khelben, danke [16:10] Action: john_dee defeated aufs [16:10] #ubuntu is fun to watch [16:10] john_dee: You came out victorious? :) [16:10] hmm ... will try again... this is the first one. w/o quotes "startx >& /tmp/startx.out" right? [16:10] agentc0re|work: Sabayon is now installed in the VM. Hmm, what's next? :P [16:10] Lucille: yes [16:11] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [16:11] they are no logs, the Xorg.0.log is screwed ... does not open seems it was not closed properly [16:11] fire|bird: make world :P [16:11] hahaha [16:11] ah its emerge world [16:11] not make world [16:11] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui" [16:11] fire|bird, of course/ that was broken makefile that spoiled all the fun %) [16:12] lol, glad you got it fixed up. :) [16:12] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:12] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Lord_Khelben: Hmm, how long will it take to emerge the world? [16:12] yep. slacklive is one step closer now [16:12] \o/ [16:12] let me make dhcp startup at boot time... this way i get auto connect to isp and put host in allow? [16:12] How many steps total? :P [16:12] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:13] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [16:13] fire|bird, well. that we'll see :p [16:13] one step to alpha version [16:14] and if it works as expected i'll think about taking it to final release [16:14] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-198-13.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:15] Action: john_dee could take the easy path and use bubuntu and netbootin, but that's be...easy [16:15] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) joined ##slackware. [16:15] that'd* [16:15] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:15] Did you see that Windows 7 is released? I got an add from buy.com for 319 for ultimate. I am going to stick with my $40 copy of slackware [16:15] wow 319 what a incredible price [16:16] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [16:16] Especially if you install it then get virused [16:16] let me bend over and KY my anus while im at it [16:16] haha. that's the whole point about windows )% [16:16] i bought a hp dv4 laptop config:c2d 4 gigs ddr2 ram intel 4500mhd gfx card, intel hd audio... my problem is the audio isnt working [16:17] ya you don't get shit for support if you buy it either. [16:17] khaladu_kj: does alsamixer show anything ? [16:18] khaladu_kj, is it muted? [16:18] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:18] Lord_Khelben: it doesnt show any errors [16:18] any idea how to setup my magic volume keys on my keyboard in xfce? [16:18] does it show any levels ? and are they unmuted ? [16:19] khaladu_kj, do headphones work? [16:19] amazon10x: xfce has a way to setup keyboard shortcuts [16:20] no the headphones also dont work [16:20] damn, tpb just will never see the end of it for this year will they? [16:21] amazon10x: if the keys show X events then you just bind them to a command [16:21] for volume you can use amixer [16:21] Lord_Khelben: how do i check if they show xevents? [16:21] for example "amixer set PCM 10%+" [16:21] and "amixer set PCM 10%-" [16:21] amazon10x: run xev [16:22] from a terminal [16:22] http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/10/22/1841217/Court-Orders-the-Pirate-Bay-To-Delete-Torrents?from=rss [16:22] headphones are giving cracking sounds if i play sometihng [16:22] and then press the keys one by one and see if they generate events [16:22] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [16:22] Lord_Khelben: they do [16:22] who could look at my xseesion errrors : http://pastebin.com/m79e23fb [16:22] makes you wonder how many of these corporations are putting their own stuff up as torrents to further the cause. [16:22] then go to the xfce settings and use the commands i gave you for amixer [16:22] and bind them to these keys [16:23] then press them to test if the volume is raised/lowered [16:24] paul424: how do you start kde ? [16:25] err normal by gdm starter :P [16:26] gdm ? [16:26] you have installed some 3rd party gnome packages ? [16:26] the gnome desktop managet I eman [16:26] oh yeeaaah, Lord_Khelben [16:26] this is great [16:26] amazon10x: does it work ? [16:26] yup :D [16:26] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:26] yeah the gdsm [16:27] xfce has a very easy way to bind keys [16:27] kde is a bit more troublesome [16:27] s/gdsm/gsm [16:27] amazon10x: you can bind all the other keys this way too [16:27] paul424: does it replace slackware-included packages ? [16:27] Lord_Khelben: heaphones give cracking sounds if i play something [16:27] for example i see it can't find theora while theora is included with slack [16:28] john_dee (n=id@93.81.71.107) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:28] khaladu_kj: can you provide dmesg and cat /proc/asound/cards pastebin ? [16:28] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: [16:29] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:29] DaveMustaine (n=noop2009@41.252.53.184) joined ##slackware. [16:29] don't know really it was not the last action before crash, [16:29] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Connection timed out [16:30] paul424: i never used any of these gnome packages so i don't know what may be messed up. there are some people here that use gnome so you'd better to hear from them [16:30] in case i tell you something wrong and it makes things worse [16:30] Open disk read-only - you have no permission to wite ... I keep getting this message while I'm trying to install slackware v12.2 on VMware [16:31] Lord_Khelben: http://pastebin.me/fc19f614b11dd177e35c01ee7a99aca7 [16:32] khaladu_kj: the dmesg ? [16:32] mesaGL (n=mesaGL@unaffiliated/mesagl) left ##slackware. [16:33] Open disk read-only - you have no permission to wite ... why I keep getting this message while I'm trying to install slackware v12.2 on VMware? 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[16:37] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:37] can you upgrade from 12.2 to current or do i have to upgrade to 13.0 then current [16:38] khaladu_kj: "hda_intel: azx_get_response timeout, switching to polling mode: last cmd=0x000f0000" i don't know if this causes trouble [16:38] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-122-36.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:38] fredoslack: 7 more days :P [16:39] -_- [16:39] deco, i prefer vista :p [16:39] ViN86 (i=ViN86@18.111.42.7) left irc: "Leaving" [16:39] heri0n: at his point -current doesn't differ much from 13.0 but in general only upgrade to a release from the previous [16:39] fredoslack: XD [16:39] so i should do 13 first [16:39] for example from 12.2 to 13.0 and that after reading the necessary documents [16:40] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:41] if you have done a full install you can use slackpkg as a easy way to upgrade [16:41] ah [16:41] slackpkg can upgrade the whole system? [16:42] <_MaggoT_> " fredoslack: 7 more days :P " u talk about ubuntu ? :p [16:42] if you read the slackpkg manpage it has instructions of what commands you need to run [16:42] okay [16:43] even if you will use slackpkg, reading the upgrade documents won't hurt you [16:43] you will learn some things [16:43] alright [16:43] is it worth it to get 64 bit slackware? [16:44] is there a website that explains this [16:44] gn every machin [16:44] :p [16:44] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-47-35.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:44] 64bit slackware is still slackware. it is fast and stable [16:44] herion, i believe you'd only practically need 64-bit slackware if you have 4+GB of ram [16:44] if you have a 64bit hardware and you want to run it, you can try it [16:45] Lord_Khelben: Do i need to configure the card's codec? [16:45] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:45] khaladu_kj: maybe your laptop needs a "model" entry for the module [16:45] i don't know [16:45] i would have to reinstall my system though [16:45] you can try some model= entries if you want [16:45] can't upgrade 32 bit [16:45] heri0n: yes [16:46] applications that use the larger and more registers will be faster (for example some crypto,multimedia etc) [16:46] ok ill stick with 32 bit for now... since my cd-rom drive is pretty busted... dont want to risk not being able to install from cd again and i dont have 4+ gigs of ram anyawy [16:46] ls won't be faster :P [16:46] hehe [16:46] Lord_Khelben: found something http://osdir.com/ml/debian-user-debian/2009-09/msg01272.html,...might help you too [16:47] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FBC6F.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [16:47] oh [16:47] i just have to add the 13.0 mirror [16:47] to /etc/slackpkg/mirrors ? [16:48] heri0n: i guess so [16:48] and run the 3-4 commands mentioned in the manpage [16:49] khaladu_kj: yeah i read it. model=hp-dv5 [16:49] you might need something like this yes [16:50] Lord_Khelben: do you use vim? [16:50] _MaggoT_ (n=NewBie@125.161.208.55) left irc: "Leaving" [16:50] heri0n: yes [16:50] do you know how to search for a line that doesn't start with # [16:50] :p [16:50] gr8 thnks for ur help ... will try tht [16:51] khaladu_kj: there is also a "hp-dv4-1222nr" entry [16:51] but i don't know what the 1222nr is [16:51] heri0n: /^[^#] [16:51] try these two [16:52] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [16:52] heri0n: that'll also skip blank lines [16:52] Urchlay: thanks, that worked :D [16:52] Lord_Khelben: dv4 is the laptop series and 1222nr is model no (in my case model no is 1435dx) [16:52] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:53] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.144.187) joined ##slackware. [16:54] khaladu_kj: ah ok. try the dv5 then or some other model. many times (especially in laptops) bios autodetection fails. that is why several "quirks" have been added for laptops [16:54] well then i will run the fedora live cd instead since not able to partition the drive for the slackware [16:54] that force specific models for specific laptops [16:54] and since fedora is a better distro :-D [16:54] hi [16:55] DaveMustaine: good luck with fedora. i hope you like it [16:55] hello rg3 [16:55] Action: spook hugs kvm [16:55] what command would i type at the keyboard to do an alt+tab [16:55] amazon10x: seriously? [16:56] heh, yes. i want to set a special media key to alt+tab [16:56] in xfce you have to link keys to commands though [16:56] amazon10x: xvkbd is a program you can use to "send" keystrokes [16:56] but i don't know if there is a command [16:56] spook, are you the same spook on themixingbowl? [16:56] just pressing alt+tab will switch between the same two programs [16:56] wollw: no. [16:56] ok [16:57] amazon10x: besides that configuration plugin that you can bind custom keys [16:57] wollw: i am the same spook i've been for 3+ years on this network. [16:57] there is another with commonly used actions [16:57] DaveMustaine (n=noop2009@41.252.53.184) left irc: [16:57] i am fairly sure there would be an "application switch" or something like that there [16:57] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [16:57] bind the key you want to that action [16:57] wait where do i find that? [16:58] i can't remember the names [16:58] its been some time since i used xfce and even then i had greek names [16:59] "xfce menu -> settings -> xfce4 window manager settings -> keyboard tab" does this work ? [16:59] i found it in google [16:59] i'm at that tab, but that only lets me link keys to commands [17:00] nopes [17:00] there are two keyboard settings in xfce, one is to bind commands to key combinations [17:00] yes not that the other one [17:00] what Lord_Khelben is pointing to seems to be what you need, i'm at that screen at this moment [17:00] eh, is it so hard to hold alt while you hit tab that you *need* a one-key replacement for it? seems like it'd get annoying, accidentally hitting it... [17:00] the one that has actions like minimize [17:01] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:01] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:01] Urchlay: just pressing alt+tab will switch between the same two programs [17:01] i'm actually going to bind it to ctrl+tab now [17:01] for firefox [17:01] i have a channel up and channel down buttons on this keyboard. so i'll bind them to ctrl+tab and ctrl+shift+tab to go between tabs [17:02] hm, you can't hit alt-tab multiple times in xfce to cycle thru all your windows like you can in windowmaker (or, eh, windows)? [17:02] oh wll ... thanks Lord_Khelben but i keep getting "forward host lookup failed: unknown host , chked syntax, spacing no success [17:02] Urchlay: no, kde and windows at least, it toggles between windows [17:02] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-52-168.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:02] are you sure the box has network ? [17:03] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.144.187) left irc: "Leaving." [17:04] Urchlay: holding alt, and pressing tab will cycle. binding a key to alt + tab will toggle [17:04] oh, right [17:04] :) [17:04] amazon10x: i think the menu i pasted is the one. the application name is xfwm4-settings i think [17:05] so binding a single key to "switch windows" would be pretty useless [17:05] Urchlay: yes. [17:05] Lord_Khelben: i'm at that window, but it only lets me make shortcuts for shell commands [17:06] not to mention, media keys are useless anyway, unless you have freakishly long fingers (otherwise your fingers have to go a loooong way from the home keys to reach them...) [17:06] braintix (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:06] in order to set the amixer and the other keys you bound [17:06] Urchlay: :) [17:06] Urchlay: long fingers here. lol [17:06] you were in "keyboard" [17:06] and my media keys are on the sides, not the top [17:06] not in "window manager" [17:06] Lord_Khelben: yeah. i'm at the same place i did the amixer bindings [17:06] braintix (n=bck@unaffiliated/braintix) joined ##slackware. [17:07] oh, i see, so i'm *supposed* to be in window manager now [17:07] kiran_ (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) joined ##slackware. [17:07] if you kept the single key pressed wouldn't it switch windows ? [17:07] maybe too quickly, but shouldn't it ? [17:07] probably [17:07] upgrading to 13 now.. hopefully my system doesn't break >< [17:07] Lord_Khelben: no it wont. [17:07] i want to make it do ctrl+tab now though [17:08] Lord_Khelben: hey that link workds but the sound still doesnt come from laptop speakers .. but headphones work [17:08] Lord_Khelben: :) [17:08] ctrl + tab or ctrl + shift + tab [17:09] ctrl+tab wouldn't mess with firefox's tab switching ? [17:09] ctrl + tab *IS* firefox's tab switching [17:09] i guess i could change firefox to use this button as the shortcut [17:09] instead of ctrl+tab [17:09] so if he presses ctrl+tab he will go to next firefox tab and also change from firefox to another app ? [17:10] ooooh [17:10] oh wait. these two keys don't generate x events [17:10] well that kinds of put a damper on things [17:10] kiran_: the laptop of a friend of mine needed the usb-audio module for the laptop speakers, but i know nothing about laptops so this may be way wrong [17:11] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [17:11] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.157.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:11] Lord_Khelben: ok let me see what i can do [17:11] amazon10x: usual microsoft media keys [17:12] oh well [17:12] at least some of them worked [17:12] if it is usb keyboard you can enable hid debugging to see the hid codes and then bind the HID codes to some unused scancodes [17:12] i've got play/pause, next, prev, mute, volume up/down [17:12] i had to do that for my ms 4000, but you will need to patch&recompile the kernel [17:12] bluetooth through usb dongle [17:13] oh i don't care that much lol. i've got the essentials working [17:13] can someone tell me the keycode taht the "windows" key sends to xev [17:13] you're making me want to dig through my storage space and find my monster IBM keyboard with 120+ keys on it [17:14] Urchlay: pics or it didn't happen [17:14] :P [17:14] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [17:14] freack (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [17:14] uva (i=bno@118-160-166-128.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] amazon10x: windows keys should send Super_L and Super_R [17:14] amazon10x: you sound like a 4chan-retard [17:14] Hey cheap|hitchhiker [17:14] er Urchlay [17:15] two rows of F-keys on top (labelled PF1 thru PF24) plus 2 short columns on the left side (F1 thru F10)... Also there's a center arrow key in the middle of the arrow key cluster [17:15] akira42: i wasn't aware. my apologies [17:15] hey, typhoid|borderings [17:15] exit [17:15] heri0n (n=heri0n@70.31.100.129) left irc: "leaving" [17:15] eh, fire|bird [17:15] Urchlay: center arrow? wouldn't that be like a point or something [17:15] amazon10x: imagine someone refers to any meme IRL ... how would you react? [17:15] heh, second one would have been supporter|packages [17:16] amazon10x: IIRC it's just a blank keycap. By default it doesn't work in Linux [17:16] akira42: i'd probably think they were a CS nerd [17:19] have you all heard of imagine cup? it's a microsoft competition for building a software project [17:19] that has to address "the worlds biggest problems". the UN has a list, like curing aids, world hunger, etc [17:19] i'm a hardcore nerd :P [17:20] i'm thinking about participating. not sure what to do yet though [17:21] something tells me you wouldn't be happy with a microsoft-branded solution to any of those problems... [17:21] hmmm, random thought... are there any media players in linux that can subscribe to podcasts? >.> [17:22] Necos: i think songbird does [17:22] Urchlay: haha. oh, and i'd have to use .net to do the project [17:22] "sure, it cures your AIDS, but in the first release it causes brain tumors. The service pack fixes the tumors, but makes your blood pressure go up to dangerous levels. Also, periodically, your field of vision is overlaid with 'free upgrade' adverts" [17:22] i want to subscribe to a couple of these: http://notebook.lausd.net/portal/page?_pageid=33,994604&_dad=ptl&_schema=PTL_EP [17:23] haha [17:23] wow, that's sad :) [17:23] Urchlay: dont forget genuine advantage [17:24] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl14-235.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [17:24] and we will verify that all of the above symptoms are yours to ensure that you are using our products [17:25] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora!!!!!!!!!!" [17:25] Mr-S^b32 (n=Mr-S^b32@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:26] if you are missing these symptoms or have additional symptoms, you must be using a broken version of our product [17:26] click here to get a genuine version [17:26] lol [17:26] welll I go to bed now... ;) see ya guys [17:26] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.177.14) left irc: "+-||\-" [17:26] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) joined ##slackware. [17:27] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:27] Necos, sounds about right [17:27] i was just playing the joke out :) [17:28] I get in the .xsession-error env: kdeinit: No such file or directory [17:29] paul424: are you trying to use kde? [17:29] Necos: VLC can subscribe to podcasts [17:29] Songbird requires gst-plugins-good, gst-plugins-bad, and gst-plugins-ugly. <--- LOL [17:30] oh, now that i didn't know alienBOB [17:31] but it doesn't look like it supports itpc:// [17:31] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:31] kiran_ (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) left irc: "Leaving" [17:32] yes [17:32] spook: but it fails [17:32] uva_ (i=bno@118-160-163-161.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:32] http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net/index.php <---interesting [17:32] paul424: silly question, have you installed all of /kde/ ? [17:33] spook: hmm I rather yes ... I upgraded the whole system via slackpkg [17:34] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.157.147) joined ##slackware. [17:34] paul424: after you upgraded, have you renamed/deleted ~/.kde [17:34] kdeinit doesn't exist in 13.0 (it's now called "kdeinit4") [17:35] spook: no ... [17:35] paul424: might be why :) [17:35] I *seriously* wish they'd also made the dot-directory ~/.kde4 instead of ~/.kde [17:35] good night world [17:35] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [17:35] Urchlay: nah that'd be sensible [17:37] spook: moved ... anything else .. Now I see what might be a problem it was temporarly downgraded to the 3.5 at least sone part of libs ... then I changed mirror and did the upgade with the current packages. Maybe some old config files slipped in ... How do you think so ? [17:37] paul424: that should do it. give it a try now [17:37] ok sorry for my gramma brb [17:37] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [17:38] riddlebox (n=james@75.132.225.75) joined ##slackware. [17:40] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:41] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] spook: hmm nothing changed. Although it must be a kde config files problem, cause I run xfce4 now. [17:41] is the proper way of adding additional ips, with IFNAME's in rc.inet1.conf ? [17:41] jeev: you mean device aliases? [17:41] sure, like eth0:0 ip.. [17:42] yeah. honestly i dont know. does it work that way? [17:42] ## Some examples of additional network parameters that you can use. [17:42] ## Config information for wlan0: [17:42] #IFNAME[4]="eth0:1" # Set up an IP alias. [17:42] yea i guess it does. [17:42] jeev, you want to do eth1, eth2, etc with the same ip? [17:42] spook: could I try to install another package of kde like 4.3.2 hmnm I have the slackware current so the libs should be compatible [17:42] give it a shot [17:42] paul424: i'm not sure exactly whats wrong. [17:43] eth0, eth0:0, eth0:1 ... [17:43] unique ip [17:43] s [17:43] ah, yeah, then the ifname trick should work [17:43] spook: also all the programs depending on kde libs are running fine /.... [17:44] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [17:45] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/gpodder/ <--- i think this might be the ticket for my podcast subscribing [17:45] http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Multiple_IPs [17:46] Ephedrax (n=ta_maman@AReims-156-1-80-176.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:46] jeev: just use the IFNAME [17:46] yea i got it [17:47] alienBOB, there's this thing written in python, dtc-xen.. by gplhost.com, a vps provider, they provide debian, centos, netbsd, ubtunintitnit stuff. anway, im testing slackware from stacklet.com [17:47] it's outperforming debian [17:47] sexy [17:48] stacklet.com ... I wanted to test-run that but never find the tme [17:48] what is strange the error in xsession-errors which is shown direclty after crash, ( I check the view that file box) does not seem to be in .~/xsession-errors now ... [17:48] time [17:48] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [17:48] well, the 87 gig compressed bzip/tar file ends up at 10 gigs.. cause that's how they build them, mounted loop and tarred it up, it's about a hundred megs.. and it works perfectly. [17:48] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824085743]" [17:49] lotec (n=lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] since i'm using lvm, unfortunately the host i set up is debian, ew. [17:50] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:50] I have a rather odd question, its general linuxy/firefoxy but maybe someone here has an idea. At my place of work, we have a public wifi that authenticates through the browser. I can't find a setting to get any of my onboard browsers (slackware default) to bring up whatever the default page url is. Any thoughts? [17:51] strankan` (n=user@c-decd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Connection timed out [17:52] briareus: probably a proxy issue [17:52] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "Reconnecting" [17:52] briareus (n=briareus@mayo-nat2.mayo.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:52] yoyo fire|bird :) [17:52] briareus: did you get my response? [17:53] amazon10x: sorry I just lagged out. [17:53] i said it's probably a proxy issue [17:53] hmm [17:54] I don't know what that means, really [17:54] the computers that properly bring it up are company computers? [17:54] no, its another company [17:54] None of my onboard browsers pull up whatever the page is, and when I called the company who supplies the service to our company, their shite techs didn't have a clue. I can get on any other wifi. [17:55] do you have your dns set statically? [17:55] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-107.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:55] it shouldn't be [17:56] Shadow_7: I don't know. All I know is, everyone I see just opens up their browsers (in apple or windows, Im the only linux laptop here now) and they open their browser, click a helpful link that says they agree to the usage policy, and boom they're on. [17:56] opps, someone else responded to me that [17:56] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:56] briareus: i think that IE defaults to automatically detecting proxy settings [17:57] while firefox defaults to no proxy [17:57] briareus: are you at work right now so you can test this? [17:58] sweet! gpodder does what i need [17:58] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-107.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [17:58] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [17:59] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.31.110) joined ##slackware. [17:59] I want to install the latest alsa packages available. But I don't know which ones to get. slack13 has 3 alsa packages installed, but on alsa website there is several more. Do I need them all? [17:59] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:00] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:00] why not look at the slackbuilds for the slack13 packages? [18:00] lordantony (i=Antonio@189-112-221-039.static.ctbctelecom.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:00] [18:00] I need a help, I use pppoe to access the intenet radio, got the network interface wireless, getting connected and using dhclient ip, set up and connected via pppoe-start, however I can not navigate when I type the site he finds the ip of the site but does not show anything in the browser. [18:01] amazon10x: I am at work, but I just tried to hook up the wifi while I'm here on the hardline and that timeout was some wicd-related wierdness where as soon as I asked wicd-curses to connect me to one of them, this eth0 connection timed out. I didn't think running dhcpcd on two different connections (eth0 and wifi0) should affect either one [18:01] Necos, slack13 has 3 alsa packages. and I have those, but they're not working for me, so I want to upgrade which means I have to compile my own [18:01] agentc0re|work (n=jon@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: "Leaving." [18:01] why not look at the slackbuilds to see what you ABSOLUTELY require from the alsa website? [18:01] lordantony, can you ping? [18:02] v4nelle (n=van@adsl163-68.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:02] all the other stuff is optional and doesn't require you to build them... get it? [18:02] slackbuilds will not have any information on packages that are distributed with official distribution. [18:02] briareus: well open firefox, go to network settings and check what it says about proxies [18:02] ummm, yes they will [18:02] it tells you what tarballs you need, PERIOD [18:03] amazon10x: it's set to "use system proxy settings" [18:03] try setting that to auto detect [18:04] i can ping in my dns (201.48.244.129), but in other ips i cant ping [18:04] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:04] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) joined ##slackware. [18:05] briareus: if it still doesn't work, try making sure that you have dhcp enabled, and also that your dns servers are automatically acquired (through dhcp) [18:05] lotec (n=lotec@static-96-254-222-162.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:05] btw, what do you mean "doesn't work" cryptic0? [18:05] I have no sound. I have tried several things, and there are no error messages, but I simply do not have sound. [18:05] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] cryptic0, i can ping in my dns (201.48.244.129), but in other ips i cant ping...what should I do? [18:06] hey nix_chix0r :) [18:06] cryptic0, and what does alsamixer tell you? [18:06] that you have no sound card? [18:06] amazon10x: is there a way to start firefox such that it uses wlan0 and not eth0? (assuming I'm connected to both at once) [18:06] alsamixer is fine, nothign muted [18:06] recognizes the sound card just fine. [18:07] lordantony, waht does pppoe-connect give you? [18:07] briareus, ifconfig eth0 down to test wlan0 [18:08] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [18:08] cryptic0, i write only pppoe-start, and it says Connected, i'll try pppoe-connect [18:08] briareus: i don't know of a way. you'll have to bring down eth0 and just reconnect to here after you try it [18:08] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) left irc: Client Quit [18:08] lordantony, I think they both mean same thing [18:08] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [18:09] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [18:09] hum... ok [18:09] brb [18:09] hmm, no go. [18:09] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "Reconnecting" [18:09] lordantony, do you get any messages? like, connected , acquired ip address etc? [18:09] C:\> [18:09] I get an ip visible in iwconfig, but browser gives me an 'unable to load' page [18:10] briareus_: alright, i think you have your dns servers hardcoded [18:10] [18:10] when I type pppoe-start wait 3 seconds and the message Connected [18:10] yes [18:10] amazon10x: I've never once touched dns settings since installing this slackware 13 [18:10] lordantony, what does ifconfig give you? [18:10] lordantony: are you just using pppoe for web browser proxy? [18:10] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@187.15.9.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:10] amazon10x: I'm not even sure how to tell [18:10] i think /etc/resolv.conf lists the dns servers [18:10] Nick change: briareus_ -> briareus [18:11] cryptic0, [18:11] when I type iwconfig and dhclient after I get the ip 10.0.1.6 and when I drop the dns response [18:11] are you setting up wireless? or wired? iwconfig is for wireless I thought. correct me if I am wrong [18:11] amazon10x: at the moment when I cat that file, I see a nameserver for this ip range (this eth0 I'm on now) [18:11] without the pppoe I can not browsing the Internet through the wireless network. [18:12] iwconfig is for wireless [18:12] lordantony, does ifconfig list ip address for eth0? [18:12] briareus: yeah the resolv.conf file reflects the current nameservers [18:12] assuming you're connected by wire. [18:13] Nick_Patterson (i=c7b98404@gateway/web/freenode/x-vybsmfdjtnzykumn) left irc: "Page closed" [18:13] fosforo_ (n=fosforo@187.15.20.190) joined ##slackware. [18:13] yes, but the interface is wlan0 [18:13] amazon10x: I don't know how I would set that to search whatever ip range (its a 10. private range) the webserving is bringing up [18:13] lordantony, let me understand. you've a router that dials pppoe and then you're trying to setup your machien wirelessly? [18:14] [18:14] I type the commands are: [18:14] ifconfig wlan0 up [18:14] Channel flood from lordantony -- kicking [18:14] iwconfig wlan0 essid SoftairQ [18:14] lordantony kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [18:14] lordantony (i=Antonio@189-112-221-039.static.ctbctelecom.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:14] oh common, 3 lines is a flood? [18:14] 4 [18:14] hmmm I see. [18:15] if 4 pancakes is a short stack, then 4 lines must be a 'short flood' [18:15] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] cryptic0: it does prove that some people should use enter a lot less. :) [18:15] lordantony, what is the essid for? your router? [18:15] slackboy doesn't eat :) [18:15] (well it actually eats souls) [18:15] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:15] [18:15] I use internet through a company that provides satellite antenna wireless. This company gave me a User and password pppoe to get into the Internet through their server. [18:15] I type the commands are: ifconfig wlan0 up / / iwconfig wlan0 essid SoftairQ / / dhclient wlan0 / / pppoe-start [18:16] briareus: do you see anywhere in wicd settings about dns or dhcp that might be affecting this? [18:16] lordantony, I am not sure how to handle that. Ask BP{k} [18:16] although I am interested in finding out. [18:16] cryptic0 tkx [18:17] so, amazon10x if I have the firefox set to automatically detect proxy, and the company authenticates through a default browser page, and I can manually iwconfig && dhclient and in fact get an 10. range ip, but the browser still can't find a home page, what do those facts sound like? [18:17] amazon10x: apparently wicd uses dhcpcd, I just killed the wicd and doing things manually [18:17] briareus, you can tell wicd to use dhclient [18:18] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:18] briareus: i believe how those things work is the company uses dns to redirect your http requests to their page [18:18] hiptobecubic: I'm sure I can, but I'm new to wicd, used to doing things manually, and for now don't want to diddle with wicd on top of no network connection. thanks for confirming what I suspected :) [18:18] and they do that until you hit the "i agree" button [18:18] amazon10x: ok [18:19] amazon10x: but if I can never see the page with the agree button... [18:19] its unfortunate that my linux laptop is the only one in the building that cant open a browser and be on the net [18:19] briareus: sometimes the web server is running at the same IP as the DNS server or network gateway. Try going to that IP on your browser just for kicks. [18:20] briareus: are there any other machines you can mess with right now that do work with the page? [18:20] andreas--- (n=andy@ppp091138225031.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:20] amazon10x: no, just desktops [18:21] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:21] esoteric: I'll try it but I'll have to leave here; I'll try it in a minute [18:21] Can anyone help me with a problem I have with PPPOE internet connects but no browsing. I can ping the DNS server ppp but when I try to ping a site, the IP appears that site but no response. [18:21] briareus: if we can't get this working tonight, try exploring someone's working machine and see what it gets through dhcp, and dns, and proxy [18:22] lordantony: you don't have any firewall scripts runnign? [18:22] ok [18:22] no, i dont have. [18:22] I just installed slackware 13 [18:23] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:23] gonna try esoteric's idea. IT's interesting that I *can* get an ip from the commandline, so I'll use that one in the browser address bar, I think that's what you meant, esoteric ? (or an ip very close to it) [18:24] mayday_jay (n=mayday_j@control-console.com) left irc: Connection timed out [18:24] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:24] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] briareus: actually, I was referring to the ip in /etc/resolv.conf and your default route that was assigned by DHCP [18:26] esoteric: well, that one is a 172. range that is the eth0 hard network, while the public wifi came up as a 10. range address [18:26] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.26.211) joined ##slackware. [18:26] ,no, i dont have. [18:26] I just installed slackware 13 [18:27] When I was on the wifi network (when my iwconfig showed I had a 10. range ip) I still only saw the 172. range ips in /etc/resolv.conf [18:27] briareus: what about 'netstat -rn'? [18:27] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009090217]" [18:27] lordantony: just out of sheer curiosity, have you tried using dhcpcd instead of dhclient? [18:27] alienBOB, i tested it with IFNAME[0]... and IFNAME[1] ... would that be ok? it's working [18:27] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.157.147) left irc: "Saliendo" [18:27] yes [18:28] briareus: you could just keep wicd running and do whatever at the same time. [18:28] briareus: what does it say is the Gateway for that 10. network? [18:28] ,yes, i tried, and connected [18:28] NaCl: for some reason, when I use wicd to attach to a wireless address, my eth0 suddenly stops cold and I lag out here [18:28] esoteric: netstat -rn right now: [18:28] 0.0.0.0 172.16.68.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 [18:28] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-250-13.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [18:28] 0.0.0.0 10.130.4.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlan0 [18:28] briareus: Ah, makes sense. [18:29] briareus: that 10.130.4.1 is the address I'd try in the browser [18:29] esoteric: my iwconfig wlan0 shows, right now: inet addr:10.130.6.24 [18:29] lordantony: so everything works with dhcpcd, but not with dhclient? [18:29] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:29] esoteric: ok [18:29] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.26.45) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [18:29] briareus: wicd only supports one connection at a time right now. [18:29] NaCl: I can't see why it should/would, but that's what it does. it seems to interfere? [18:29] ah [18:29] ok THAT makes sense [18:30] esoteric: trying it right now, with 10.130.4.1 in the address bar, it just tries to load but never loads [18:30] briareus: you might want to ifconfig down that eth0 interface, too [18:31] esoteric: ok, but if I do I lose this irc [18:31] , not, work with dhclient, I type: iwconfig wlan0 essid SoftairQ & & & & dhclient wlan0 pppoe-start and everything works, I connect, get IP, drop in DNS, but it is as if the response time was very slow, when to drop another site I get the ip but not the answer. [18:31] briareus: well, 'part', try it out, and come back ;) [18:31] but ok I'll try it [18:31] :) and thanks for the help, brb [18:31] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left ##slackware. [18:32] [22:28] ( lordantony) ,yes, i tried, and connected <--- so if dhcpdcd works .. why not use dhcpcd (which is sorta preferred anyway) [18:33] I need some help with sata controller card set up [18:33] what card cryptic0 and what's wrong [18:34] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@70.167.74.173) joined ##slackware. [18:34] I have a older motherboard with IDE only interface, so I bought this rosewill RC212 card and a new sata hard drive. The machine already has a hard drive [18:34] anyone have the android sdk installed on their slack box? [18:34] hum... I'll try back later to give the answer. thanks [18:34] briareus (n=briareus@mayo-nat2.mayo.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:35] old drive is ATA. new drive is SATA. I have installed the card in the pci slot, but not sure if I need to connect both new and old drives to it, or whether old drive stays with mobo and new drive goes with the card. [18:35] firefox, konqueror try to load that ip but never get there [18:36] briareus: did you down the eth0 interface and verify that the only default gateway was the 10. one? [18:36] lordantony (i=Antonio@189-112-221-039.static.ctbctelecom.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [18:36] yes [18:36] I ran netstat -rn again, no eth0 evident, wlan0 was the same [18:36] Lucille (n=Luz@99.162.236.207) left irc: "Leaving" [18:36] briareus: were you able to ping your 10. ip that was assigned to your wlan0 interface? [18:37] ...... uhm *headdesk* [18:37] ^ assuming no firewall rules to block it, of course [18:37] (re: lordanthony) [18:37] jeev, any ideas? [18:37] esoteric: the blocking I'm not sure of, I just installed that firewall script someone in here recommended for slackware (but this wlan0 problem predates my installation of said iptables script) [18:38] and no my pings don't come back [18:38] huh [18:39] I iz in your toobes, hijacking yur icmp packetz [18:39] I just tried also pinging the 10.130.4.0 that netstat -rn lists [18:40] >.> [18:40] wierd [18:40] yeah [18:40] I am trying to install the android sdk, but I know it depends on java [18:41] there is a package for the jdk, right? [18:41] can someone please point me to it? [18:41] Dominian: ? [18:41] v6CommO: it's in extra/jdk-6/ on *any* decent mirror. [18:41] v6CommO: or on your install media. [18:42] thanks BP{k} [18:43] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:43] briareus (n=briareus@129.176.197.19) joined ##slackware. [18:43] netstart -rn is now showing a 10.130.4.1 as gateway, 10.130.4.0 as destination, and 10.130.6.24 is what I get when I dhclient wlan0. I can ping the last one successfully. I can open a browser to none of them. [18:44] can you ping 10.130.4.1? [18:45] says ping: sendmsg: operation not permitted [18:45] this is what I'm looking at right now: [18:45] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] gnubien (n=e@97.100.244.58) joined ##slackware. [18:45] http://pastebin.com/m131e7e73 [18:45] jinjii (n=fabio@host189-17-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:46] that's probably a firewall rule :P [18:46] but it was happening before I installed the firewall [18:46] briareus: it wouldn't hurt to disable the firewall while you troubleshoot network issues. [18:46] ok [18:46] just an iptables --flush? [18:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:47] briareus: also try 'traceroute -i wlan0 10.130.4.1' [18:47] not sure how else to disable it [18:47] iptables -F i think it is [18:47] ^ yeah [18:47] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [18:49] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:50] briareus (n=briareus@mayo-nat2.mayo.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:51] how odd. I could not do anything online when I flushed the iptables. I had to restart rc.firewall just to get online again [18:51] I don't understand why at all [18:51] is anyone familiar with hardware configuration for a sata drive addition to a ide only motherboard (i have a sata controller card) [18:51] what the heck is in that salckware firewall?> [18:51] :) [18:51] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:7c7) joined ##slackware. [18:52] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:53] it will be treated just like a scsi card cryptic0 [18:53] so you'll have sda, sdb, etc.. [18:53] yes, I am trying to figure out how to put everything in the system (physically) [18:53] maybe I should just rc.firewall stop [18:54] because it seems when I flushed the iptables I broke the networking [18:54] well, it's the same shit :) [18:54] briareus: sure, but just verify that all Chain are set to ACCEPT by running '/usr/sbin/iptables -L' [18:54] Necos, does my old hard drive (bootable with OS) stay connected to mobo, or does it now connect to the ide connector on sata controller card? [18:54] you insert it like you would a scsi card (into an available pci slot) [18:54] Necos, yes I did that part [18:55] then you connect your SATA drive to the card [18:55] esoteric: all ACCEPT [18:55] Necos, ok, then? [18:55] crudo|home (n=0xdead@187.78.98.224) joined ##slackware. [18:55] and a power connector from your power supply to the drive [18:55] briareus: then the firewall is "disabled" essentially [18:55] daidoji (i=daidoji7@adsl-76-254-61-72.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:55] Necos, how do I set the new drive to be slave? [18:55] esoteric: my settings are now exactly as the pastebin shows [18:55] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@70.167.74.173) left irc: "leaving" [18:55] it behaves like a scsi drive would, there is no "slave" concept [18:56] I see. [18:56] and my old drive stays where it is? [18:56] yep [18:56] damn, this chick on this LAUSD news program is pretty cute [18:56] hopefully slack 12 will be able to recognize the new drive [18:56] serial ata doesn't have the concept of slaves...more like the concept of luns [18:56] nyRednek, that's what i said :P [18:56] Necos, was agreeing with you [18:56] :) [18:57] Necos, so nyeh [18:57] yes I was confused because my ide drive needs to stay a master (bootable drive with OS) [18:57] I'm with you fellas. [18:57] lol nyRednek [18:57] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:57] Necos, and my confusion was furthered by the fact that the sata card has a ide connector on it :p [18:57] goddamn, this assistant superintendent guy is fugly tho... [18:58] cryptic0, ignore it, you're not using it to connect IDE drives [18:58] briareus: down the wlan interface, then down the eth interface, netstat -rn to make sure there are no default routes, make sure firewall is "off" and every chain is ACCEPT, then bring up the wlan interface and try to 'telnet 10.130.4.1 80' and telnet 10.130.4.1 443 and see if it connects to a responding server. [18:58] Action: nyRednek sneaks around bushes randomly screeching "nee" [18:58] Necos, okay, let me give it a shot. [18:58] Ni! [18:59] esoteric: done, done, and now going to bring up the wlan0 [18:59] Action: hitest loves Monty Python:) [18:59] hitest, most slackers do [18:59] yep [18:59] "no we don't" [18:59] goddamn it... this idiot cortines should be hung, shot, and quartered... not necessarily in that order [19:00] Necos, http://imagebin.org/68770\ [19:00] esoteric: can dhcpcd handle more than one connection? (like this eth0 is set with dhclient right now, think I can dhcpcd wlan0 successfully without nuking this eth0?) [19:00] lol wtf, in binary [19:00] BP{k}: hmmmmm...each to his own:) [19:00] Necos, slackware 64 logo [19:01] dhcpcd will handle all "up" interfaces IIRC [19:01] ok [19:01] xmms1? pimp :) [19:01] Necos, yeah, xmms1 [19:02] hitest: you missed the reference to "the argument sketch" ;) [19:02] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:219) joined ##slackware. [19:02] Necos, thinking of pasting the barcode under the logo [19:02] lol that'd be awesome [19:02] BP{k}; lol.. no I didn't [19:02] jinjii1 (n=fabio@host189-17-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:03] hitest: yes you did. [19:03] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:03] BP{k}, no, he didn't [19:03] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:03] GODDAMNIT! :( [19:03] heya Necos [19:03] http://randbwedding2009.blogspot.com/2008/10/richa-giri-and-bart-mitchell-wedding.html [19:03] nyRednek: you can't argue, you haven't payed. [19:03] this is the chick doing the news for this LAUSD program [19:04] Necos, i generated a slackware 64 barcode last night...i know there will be epic uses of it [19:04] BP{k}: you're right I missed the reference. that scene is classic. one of my favourites. [19:04] sexy latina woman marries some dorky looking white boy >.> [19:04] hitest: I have to admit, it was a kinda vague reference :) [19:04] just a little:) [19:04] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [19:05] or whatever she is lol (i may have been wrong on the latina part) [19:05] John Cleese is brilliant in that sketch. [19:05] john cleese is just brilliant all around [19:06] jeo (n=jeo@c-24-5-73-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] yes [19:06] Necos, she's indian [19:06] dont mention the war. i mentioned it once, but i think i got away with it [19:06] yes, i stand corrected :) [19:06] esoteric: the telnet 10.130.4.1 443 is stull trying. The first one took over the terminal (with the escape character message but the escape character didn't work) [19:06] but she's pretty hot [19:06] Necos, and he looks vagely ashkenazi [19:06] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:06] s/vagely/vaguely [19:06] esoteric: [19:06] he looks vaguely what? [19:06] Trying 10.130.4.1... [19:06] Connected to 10.130.4.1. [19:06] Escape character is '^]'. [19:07] Necos, ashkenazi [19:07] bbiab [19:07] Necos, in other words, european jew [19:07] you want ctrl+] (use the ctrl on the right side) [19:07] so i was right, "some dorky looking white boy" [19:07] lol [19:07] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:07] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) left irc: Connection reset by peer [19:07] thanks mancha [19:08] mayday-jay (n=mayday_j@216.145.101.109) joined ##slackware. [19:08] hello :) how can I customize permission to user ftpadmin via sudo to administrate ftp only start ,stop ,restart the ftp daemon ? [19:08] i read must edit /etc/sudoers as root with visudo [19:08] from /etc/sudoers [19:08] Channel flood from Level-Zero -- kicking [19:08] # User privilege specification [19:08] root ALL=(ALL) ALL [19:08] Level-Zero kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:08] np [19:08] nyRednek: hai, i can migrate from acess finally :) [19:08] that's quite common, reform boys marrying asian and indian girls [19:08] hahahahaha [19:08] anavel, coolness [19:08] was looking to see if anyone would like to help me trouble shoot Wicd for a few minutes? :) [19:08] nyRednek: but i use another way [19:08] jeo, what kind of trouble you having? [19:09] and level-zero gets slapped by slackboy :) [19:09] wicd has its own channel, too. might be better off there? [19:09] anavel, ok...i just referenced the way i used [19:09] Level-Zero (n=Level-Ze@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [19:10] nyrednek thanks for the response. i installed it and the prog is running, however i am unable to obtain an ip from my router. ethernet works fine. [19:10] nyRednek: my was access->xlt->calc->base [19:10] the problem being that other races unfortunately are still not portrayed as positively as caucasian / european folks in US media [19:10] *mine [19:10] hi [19:10] anavel, ah... [19:10] don't paste in channel level-zero [19:11] jeo, hmmm...are you sure that your wifi card's transmitter is on? [19:11] nyRednek: i couldn't find a way to create sql on access 2007 :< [19:11] because access doesn't use sql usually... [19:11] odbc [19:11] www.pastebin.com for long things - it's a bit inconsiderate to paste big things here [19:11] Necos, but, iirc, access can export sql [19:12] Necos, then again, the last version of access i looked deep into was 97 [19:12] i've never done it that way (and i hate access anyway for that reason) [19:12] but the nice thing about ODBC is that it works the same in excel, access, and any other program that supports it [19:12] nyrRednek it is. i'm able to scan and find all networks. my network comes up as "hidden" however which i found odd. i know it's mine because the MAC matches. but yes, the card is on. [19:12] nyRednek: well, i was trying to find it. No something like "export as sql" on 2007 [19:13] anavel, switch to ODBC and save yourself the headache [19:13] jeo, wicd had some bugs. is your essid all ascii btw? [19:13] #wicd [19:13] Necos: that means, you need to install odbc on linux ? [19:13] somethin like that [19:14] how can I find out what filesystem I have? [19:14] brb need to check something [19:14] jeo, first thing i'd do before worrying about your network config is update wicd [19:14] cryptic0: mount [19:14] nyrednek it is. it's just two words seperated by a space [19:14] cryptic0: mount |grep mount_point [19:14] mancha sorry, i ment mancha :) [19:14] Necos: http://imagebin.org/68847 [19:15] mancha, i will try updating, thank you for your help [19:15] jeo, i believe the wicd that comes with slack13 is a bit fubar, if this is you, then update it [19:15] Necos: I think it was you who turned me on to dockapps many many moons ago. since then, I've gone conky. lots of little custom ones for certain desktops and uses [19:15] mancha: it has a few bugs yes. [19:15] esoteric: I'm baffled. [19:15] mancha it's true, it's the one from slack13 [19:15] anavel, mount will tell me filesyste? But the drive is already mounted. It's my / drive [19:15] i'll try updating [19:16] esoteric: I tried to find that same setting in the konqueror, and it seems to be set the same as firefox (though I'm not sure since I really don't know any K-stuff well) [19:16] cryptic0: mount |grep "/ type" [19:16] esoteric: at any rate, it's a bizarre thing. [19:16] jeo, i think i've seen rworkman paste links to an updated package. if you want to avoid the compile (but compiling it yourself is always a good 1st choice) [19:16] mail_ (n=chatzill@74.002.hdsl.mel.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [19:17] esoteric: and I really appreciate the help. I'm just ... no idea. [19:17] yay! I have ext3. should I get the same one on the new 750gb sata drive? or is reiserfs better? [19:17] hmmmm [19:17] briareus: what does the 'entropy' thing mean, below the filesystems [19:17] cryptic0, define "better" [19:17] more modern [19:17] cryptic0: unless you REALLY know what you're doing, i would suggest not using reiser for anything important. [19:18] nooper, it means how scattered the data is (like entropy in thermodynamics) [19:18] spook, that was spooky [19:18] Necos: disk fragmentation? [19:18] ;) [19:18] nooper: available entropy in the system at that moment. I put it as a filler, since few conky presets would fit that little gap the way I wanted [19:18] what is the diff between ext3 and ext4 [19:18] google cryptic [19:18] cryptic0, just use ext3 (or if you're brave enough to use ext4) [19:18] cryptic0: about "1" ;) [19:18] 1 :) [19:18] BP{k}: I hate you :P [19:18] cryptic0: by all means, have a play with reiser, see how it works. but dont switch to it full time until you've played with it first [19:18] Camarade_Tux: haha trumped ;) [19:19] Camarade_Tux, you're too slow [19:19] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.207.31.110) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:19] Necos: I'm using ext3 for my /, ext4 otherwise. Plus I back it all up regularly :) [19:19] BP{k}, lol. [19:19] Necos: I had papers on my keyboard [19:19] you fail :P [19:19] same goes for most filesystems, ext4 included. [19:19] spook, this is going to be my backup drive for both laptops. So I want it stable. [19:19] wicd 1.6.xxxxxxx compiled but same problem i switched to bash and scripts -> oldway works [19:19] nederland 1: france 0 [19:19] cryptic0: ext3 or xfs [19:19] ext4 works fine if you're using ordered writes :P [19:19] yeah, by all means, use MurderFS. May it implode on you as it did to me. Twice. [19:20] deco: still listening to Pink Floyd ;-) [19:20] briareus, :p sorry to hear that. [19:20] Camarade_Tux: :o [19:20] I think I will stick with ext3 to maintain homogeneity across drives [19:20] cryptic0: blame reiser, but get in line. he's doing life I think. [19:20] but you'd be better off using ext3 if you don't want to get bitten by a kernel bug [19:20] Camarade_Tux: you're gonna go md [19:20] mad* [19:20] retsudo (n=retsudo@cpe-76-174-219-13.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:20] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:7c7) left irc: No route to host [19:20] "homogeneity" now i have to dust off my old dictionary....brb [19:20] Action: Camarade_Tux puts Black Sabbath's Am I Going Insane :) [19:20] reiser is worth trying, just for the experience. it has its advantages [19:21] btw, once I format this drive, can I put it under the same samba share that my other drive is on? or will it have to be a separate share? [19:21] briareus, whatever he did is irrelevant. he was a brilliant programmer [19:21] cryptic0: depends where you mount it [19:21] anavel, ok, just realized, i used a VBA that only worked with access 97 [19:21] Necos: except in my experience. This shit blew up on me in two systems. [19:21] anavel, the other method would be to export csv's [19:21] spook, what would you suggest? [19:21] and if his fs is being maintained by someone else, more power to them... [19:21] cryptic0: dont know, not my system [19:22] Necos: except he never managed to have his latest code merged in the kernel [19:22] Camarade_Tux: :) [19:22] that's the beauty of being able to fork a project >.> [19:22] Necos: I was at work, shelled in to one of the boxes, and it appeared to hang. I went home, and it was all gonzo. The other one imploded while I was asleep. two different distros even. I have zero faith in it. Maybe I just had bad luck. [19:22] character dispersions aside, give reiser a try, thats how you learn :) [19:22] right now, I have entire /home/me on old drive shared over samba. I would like to just make a subdirectory in /home/me/backup and mount the new drive to that location. I guess that will work. [19:22] character dispersions? [19:23] character dispersion is being an asshole. he murdered the mother of his child. [19:23] hehe [19:23] jeo (n=jeo@c-24-5-73-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:23] :| [19:23] http://www.pastebin.ca/1638808 (i had a power outage last week) [19:23] (but then maybe many would do that if they had the chance) [19:23] briareus: so said the jury of his peers, beyond a reasonable doubt. [19:24] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@aa20060611363b8b1fd4.userreverse.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [19:24] spook: well, that and his confession. [19:24] that does not nessisarily mean he 100% certainly did it. but its pretty damn likely :) [19:24] spook: he did confess. [19:24] spook: he killed her on the stairs, he choked her. he said so. I read his words. [19:24] briareus: i confess, i killed reiser's wife. [19:24] nyRednek: yes. csv [19:24] spook: liar. he killed her. he stated he did. [19:25] thepeng (n=master@m370436d0.tmodns.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] briareus: but i just stated i did! [19:25] irrelevant. [19:25] just like i was on the grassy knoll. [19:25] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [19:25] impossible. [19:25] anavel, the problem, you lose your queries... [19:25] I have to tell someone... Im tethered to my tmo android phone and it just downloaded the slack13 iso at well over 100MB a second. Im serious, and it did it twice in a row [19:25] hello i want to know how can i customize permission to user via sudo ? http://pastebin.com/m540548ea [19:25] thepeng: cool. [19:25] anavel, that IS a problem [19:26] thepeng: cool [19:26] thanks I mean I know they say 3g but sheesh it shouldnt be faster than the t1 line at my work [19:26] Naraku (n=supergea@65.113.15.181) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [19:26] I haven't got an android phone yet [19:26] wow, wired has a pic of his wife... she was a cutie :) [19:26] nyRednek: not really if you only need to append data ;) [19:26] Necos: indeed. [19:26] its full 3g, 7mbs [19:26] die mosquito die [19:26] briareus: wait for the motorola sholes [19:27] iphone '3g' is only 1.2mbs [19:27] thepeng: are you sure? motorola phones are usually sucktastic [19:27] anyway, a 34 page confession is a bit lengthy for me to read right now :) [19:27] Necos: he killed her on the stairs. choked her out. said it was the most peaceful way you can die. [19:27] briareus: actually yeah Im pretty sure, its the fastest processor most ram etc, look it up! its gotten heaps of rave reviews [19:27] ananke, i guess...i was thinking of a live relational database being edited and queried constantly...would be a BIG headache to move over [19:27] A: I stopped the blood flowing to her uh, to her head. <---- damn >.> [19:27] briareus: the most peaceful way, is being choked. on a set of stairs. [19:28] spook: surely. [19:28] briareus: but i agree, they are usually quite sucktastic. Ive got a mytouch3g and its decent, but I only got it cause it was the best one out at the time [19:28] no, the most peaceful way is a ton of sleeping pills >.> [19:28] nyRednek: now that's a problem. Perhaps it can be move to sql server, then export it as an sql from there ? [19:28] briareus: and where did the car seat factor in? [19:28] anavel, that appears to be the popular method [19:28] and all the water in his car [19:29] spook: sex ? :/ [19:29] I knew he did it as soon as I saw the original WIRED article with the close up of his face and eyes. I saw it right then. unscientific, sure, but I knew it. [19:29] briareus: "feeling", huh ? [19:29] if he choked her, its not like his seat would have had blood on it [19:29] jinjii (n=fabio@host189-17-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [19:29] anavel: just, the look in his eyes. He had that vacant look my military/killer friends had. [19:29] he hit her on the head apparently [19:29] anavel, anyways, access is not really designed for that heavy of an implementation [19:29] i'm reading the paraphrased wired article [19:30] ah ok [19:30] spook, but her bowels would loosen after death [19:30] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:30] nyRednek: that would have been on the stairs. [19:30] nyRednek: thats why corpse anal sex rocks [19:30] no? [19:30] esoteric: yes? [19:30] hjahahaha [19:30] briareus LOL [19:30] spook, true... [19:30] no, the bowels might take a bit of time to loosen [19:30] but she wouldn't bleed if that was the case :P [19:30] Dominian: please end this conversation before it get ANY worse [19:30] thats disgusting and not slackware related. can some op take care of this crap discussion? [19:30] you gotta let your victim lay there a bit, THEN go for the loosened anus [19:30] you guys are suck [19:30] I have no idea what's going on [19:31] ok [19:31] lol [19:31] are sick* [19:31] grrrr [19:31] but it does appear that this entire conversation is completely off-topic for the channel.. if thats what you mean [19:31] sorry deco, I shan't offend your delicate sensibilities again. You too mancha [19:31] can we all just agree, that this discussion really really needs to end, RIGHT NOW? [19:31] sorry [19:31] now [19:31] lets talk about cats [19:31] deco, i wasn't going to the necrophilia...was just explaining why he may have flooded his car [19:31] nyRednek: now. [19:31] deco: no no no. cats are terrible for anal sex. [19:31] but, going back to the topic of reiserfs, i have 3 drives formatted with it, and that machine has been up for over a year [19:31] briareus: NOW. [19:32] wtf [19:32] dudes [19:32] ... [19:32] oh, you mean "lets just talk about cats" [19:32] LOL [19:32] .... [19:32] v4nelle (n=van@adsl163-68.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:32] deco, i'm done [19:32] deco, be careful what you wish for ;) [19:32] well, where's the linux in that? ICANHAZCHEEZBURGER can be gotten through a linux based browser, ok [19:32] the Federation Of Galgalacs wont aprove such unproper topics. [19:32] Necos: shuddap [19:32] any of you tried windows 7 yet ? [19:32] proximity to cats vs. horrible discussion topics [19:32] tried the rc [19:32] now, the question is: why does each and every conversation about any of the reiser* filesystems has to mention that? shouldn't it talk about... filesystems? [19:33] Camarade_Tux: shhhh :) [19:33] anavel: yeah i tried the RTM a few months ago [19:33] spook: wired says it's good [19:33] anavel, yeah, i looked at the beta...looks like windows vista with macos interface additions [19:33] Camarade_Tux, that's why i posted the pastebin link [19:33] jinjii (n=fabio@host189-17-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:33] anavel: its better than vista, not nearly as good as a slackware desktop perfectly configured [19:33] Action: deco hides in the darkness [19:33] Camarade_Tux: it was a question of wether someone should use reiser. i said they should try it, but not trust it till they try it. briareus decided to turn it into OT [19:34] windows7. whooeee. Microsoft also opened their first ever retail store today, in Scottsdale, with Taylor Swift singing there. Shit. [19:34] anavel: its certainly an improvement over vista [19:34] and i tried to get away from the OT, but i got sucked in too >.> [19:34] briareus: its not their first lol [19:34] Anyone have some time to explain the method => hello i want to know how can i customize permission to user via sudo ? http://pastebin.com/m540548ea [19:34] briareus: they opened one in like 1998 in the metreon in san fransisco [19:34] thepeng: well, their statement claimed it was their first ever [19:34] overdrive (n=user@81.202.78.68.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [19:34] taylor swift is cute tho >.> [19:34] briareus, i see the store failing... [19:34] nyRednek: of course [19:34] Level-Zero: read the manual page/documentation [19:34] briareus: did it?! lol they probably dont want anyone knowing about the first one and the epic fail that was metreon [19:34] spook: he, I haven't mentionned anyone ;-) [19:35] Level-Zero, have you read the sudo manpage yet? [19:35] Necos: sorry, haven't seen your link at all :D [19:35] Level-Zero: easy way is just to add users to the wheel group. [19:35] thepeng: maybe they pulled a technicality: "first retail store we've ever had for windows7" [19:35] http://pastebin.ca/1638808 [19:35] not yet [19:35] sirslacker (n=sirslack@tmo-108-92.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [19:35] Necos, wouldn't mind having taylor swift chained to the wall...wouldn't mind it at all [19:35] sirslacker (n=sirslack@tmo-108-92.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:35] nyRednek, EXACTLY! [19:35] sirslacker (n=sirslack@tmo-108-92.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [19:35] Level-Zero: well, go read the manual page. AFTER you do that, ask any questions. [19:36] Necos, of course, with her full legal consent [19:36] briareus: yeah probably something like that, lemme find you a linky about the old one [19:36] TaylorSwift followed me for some reason on twitter for a short while. I have zero idea why. then i looked and it was unfollwoed. [19:36] legal consent? pfffttttt! [19:36] sirslacker (n=sirslack@tmo-108-92.customers.d1-online.com) left ##slackware. [19:36] hi people, i just installed slackware 13 and when i am using emacs i'm seeing some problems, alt key is working properly with alt+x combination (as meta x combination) but not when i'm using alt+> (meta >) [19:36] sirslacker (n=sirslack@tmo-108-92.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [19:36] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [19:36] briareus: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/24/BUGSVHDITS1.DTL there u goes [19:36] sirslacker (n=sirslack@tmo-108-92.customers.d1-online.com) left ##slackware. [19:36] are you using alt+shift+.? [19:36] Necos, the 'forced' look may seem exciting, but going to prison for it wouldn't be fun [19:36] Necos: exactly [19:37] okay guys. heres the deal. lets use our awesome, purpose made, offtopic channel. ##slackofftopic all taylor swift, reiser and cat sodomising conversation should take place there. [19:37] lol [19:37] spook: don't let them go there! [19:37] it's my lair [19:37] ##slackers ? [19:37] Necos: maybe there are some problems with alt and shift combination? i never seen this problem [19:38] overdrive, possibly... are you sure it's not bound in your window manager / desktop environment? [19:38] is all alone in slackofftopic [19:38] Necos: i'm not using any wm/desktop, it is just in console [19:38] thepeng: pen ##slackofftopic .. not #slackofftopic ;) [19:38] Action: Camarade_Tux grabs a cat [19:38] lol [19:38] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:38] oh, that was fire|bird, doesn't matter, same :) [19:38] ah whoops [19:38] Action: Necos wonders what Camarade_Tux is going to do [19:39] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:39] wollw (n=wollw4@75-101-22-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) joined ##slackware. [19:39] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) left irc: Client Quit [19:39] I'm going to go to bed ;-) [19:39] lol [19:39] that's a scary thought [19:39] Camarade_Tux: with the cat ? :O [19:40] anavel: no, with the bird :) [19:40] this is so lame... the LAUSD superintendent says he's going to air a show on KLCS, but there's no video available for download [19:40] uhh... ok. have it your way... [19:40] Camarade_Tux is gonna smother the bird >.> [19:41] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-34-173.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: "Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug." [19:41] here, rejoice at that: http://lwn.net/Articles/358161/ :) [19:41] and the principal wants me to put the video of this show he's doing on KLCS [19:41] on our school's website [19:41] i guess she's gonna be pissed lol [19:42] not to be a nazi or anything, but the less off-topic stuff in here, the better :) [19:42] well spook, it is on topic, 'cause just until about 30 minutes ago, i couldnt' get podcasts on my slack box :P [19:42] Action: Camarade_Tux waves good night at the channel :) [19:42] andreas--- (n=andy@ppp091138225031.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:43] Necos: are you using vlc like alienBOB suggested? [19:43] later Camarade_Tux [19:43] nah, i opted for gPodder [19:43] daidoji (i=daidoji7@adsl-76-254-61-72.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: [19:43] since i needed to view multiple podcasts [19:43] later Camarade_Tux [19:43] Necos: hows it working out? [19:43] pretty good... playing the mp4s with vlc from gPodder :) [19:44] mp4, heh. dont you mean aac? [19:44] blah.mp4 (haven't looked at the used codecs) [19:45] mail_ (n=chatzill@74.002.hdsl.mel.iprimus.net.au) left ##slackware. [19:45] last i checked, mp4 is pretty much just aac [19:46] mp4v and mp4a are the codecs used [19:46] oh my bad. [19:46] disregard me. i suck cocks. [19:46] for this video :P [19:46] spook: ! [19:46] and you're the one to talk about offtopic >.> [19:47] we don't wanna know what you do on saturday nights [19:47] :P [19:47] wow, this is interesting... the translation utilties available to people is interesting [19:47] mp4 is just a container format anyway [19:48] amazing, rather... [19:48] i've only seen these headsets used a couple of times [19:48] what, like what they use in the UN? [19:49] well, i'm watching a budget meeting podcast for the school district [19:49] Action: Necos <3 gPodder [19:49] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:49] heya andarius [19:49] greetings andarius, how are you? [19:50] Action: Necos stabs fire|bird [19:50] :) [19:50] salutations Necos and fire|bird. i am well. [19:50] Action: fire|bird counts his stab wounds. [19:50] greetings and salutations to all you others as well :) [19:50] fire|bird is the human pincushion [19:50] Action: andarius adds a few pins :o [19:51] gee, I hadn't noticed. :P [19:51] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.75) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:51] lol [19:51] fire|bird: i still love you. [19:51] \o/ [19:52] but be careful, he sucks cock >.> [19:52] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [19:52] lol. [19:52] omg [19:52] :O [19:52] Do we recognize this? I believe it to be related to my video hw but that's all i really know. http://dpaste.com/110893/ [19:52] heya hitest [19:52] LOL [19:52] hiya fire|bird [19:52] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) [19:52] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207009097.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:52] hiptobecubic: blerck [19:53] blerck? [19:53] as opposed to blurk [19:53] that's an intel driver, so it should work with X [19:53] you'd think yes. [19:54] apparently it's having a tough time [19:54] e01 (n=OSCorp01@213.169.52.50) left irc: Connection timed out [19:54] In addition to this, it also manifests itself at boot when the kernel is trying to set the console resolution. It complains that video mode "395" (or something similar) doesn't exist, which may be true but i don't know where it got that number from. I have it set to use 795 in lilo [19:55] have you tried the other drivers? [19:55] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:55] How does changing the driver fix something at kernel boot? doesn't it use vesa? [19:55] oh, bleh... :P [19:55] depends on the hardware [19:56] are you using the vesa fb? [19:56] by default it may, but there are other FB modules [19:56] i was trying [19:56] lsmod and see what is loaded? [19:56] providing it is a module [19:56] could be an irregular character in your lilo.conf [19:56] http://dpaste.com/110896/ [19:57] i915 [19:57] ya know what hiptobecubic? what kernel version are you using? [19:58] and is it a stock kernel [19:58] 2.6.29.6 [19:58] stock [19:58] i think it might be a kernel issue (you could try updating to a .30+ kernel [19:58] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@aa20060611363b8b1fd4.userreverse.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [19:58] ) [20:00] alas, i gotta get out of here... got an appt with the barber [20:00] have fun [20:00] but yeah, try upgrading, i've heard there's been a lot of work done for the intel cards [20:00] alright we'll see [20:00] Action: Necos stabs fire|bird again on the way out [20:00] :) [20:00] haha [20:00] later Necos [20:06] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) joined ##slackware. [20:06] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:07] how do I turn off networking-on-bootup [20:07] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) joined ##slackware. [20:07] fnord. [20:07] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [20:08] overdrive (n=user@81.202.78.68.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [20:11] umislack (n=sleek@58.64.94.147) joined ##slackware. [20:11] all networking? [20:11] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:12] briareus, chmod -x somethings in /etc/rc.d [20:12] chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 [20:12] thx [20:12] though that keeps you from getting lo as well i think [20:13] oh [20:14] if you just want to keep interfaces from coming up edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet.conf accordingly [20:14] Any ideas with this? I have libicuuc.so and it is in the directory it's looking to: /usr/lib, yet it's giving this: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/nWD5Rd55.html [20:15] bah, nvm, I got it I think. [20:17] Hmm, nope that isn't it, icu4c is 4.2.1, so it is greater than 3 [20:17] e01 (n=OSCorp01@213.169.52.50) joined ##slackware. [20:17] who wants a google voice invite ? [20:19] is the latest stable kernel link on kernel.org down? [20:19] hiptobecubic: is here, yeah. [20:19] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "leaving" [20:19] hiptobecubic: works fine for me [20:20] huh [20:20] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [20:20] i clicked it and am DLing the latest source now [20:20] hmm, so this isn't going to work for me [20:20] andarius: which one brings up lo? [20:20] briareus: what isnt? [20:21] ... what? http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.31.5.tar.bz2 that link? [20:21] andarius: which rc.inet [20:21] http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.30.9.tar.bz2 <-- is where it sent me [20:21] andarius, refresh cache? [20:21] briareus: rc.inet1 does the work. rc.inet1.conf defines the work to be done [20:21] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: [20:21] if you dont want interfaces to come up edit rc.inet1.conf [20:21] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:22] hiptobecubic: this machine has never been to kernel.org, its a win box [20:22] thanks [20:22] also my cache is cleared on every exit [20:22] so when you look at the main page of kernel.org it tells you that 2.6.30.9 is the latest stable? [20:22] hiptobecubic: try the ftp site direct [20:23] doh, fail on my part [20:23] willca (n=willca@c-24-19-63-203.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] with full source yes [20:23] rc.inet1.conf is a liar. "the end of this file contains a comprehensive set of examples." no it doesn't. [20:24] briareus: mine does [20:24] ## Some examples of additional network parameters that you can use. <-- starts there [20:25] I suppose comprehensive is in the eyes of the beholder [20:26] in other words, nothing in those examples gives me a clue how to make something not come up at boot [20:26] I just read that whole file thrice [20:26] hiptobecubic: 31.5 is not on the ftp either. guess they prematurely spit that one out [20:27] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:27] who, what? [20:27] leave it unconfigured and make sure you set #USE_DHCP[4]="yes" to no [20:27] hey thrice` [20:27] hi :) [20:27] how are you? [20:27] going great, yourself ? [20:27] sorry thrice` [20:28] great, thanks, just trying to figure out this icu error I am getting. :P [20:29] hiptobecubic: if you look at the link table there is no full source link. guess the only way to get it right now is git [20:30] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [20:31] thepeng (n=master@m370436d0.tmodns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:32] fire|bird, fedora? [20:32] thrice`: slackware. [20:32] aah, trying to do what? [20:32] thrice`: install apache couchdb. [20:33] which wants icu4c? [20:33] yeah, which I have installed, and the file it can't find is right where it's looking. [20:34] /usr/lib/libicuuc.so [20:34] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:34] and it needs >= 3, and SBo's icu4c is 4.2.1 [20:34] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.214) joined ##slackware. [20:35] configure is dying? [20:35] yeah [20:35] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] for a broader picture, this is what I'm trying to do: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Raindrop/Install [20:37] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-176-085.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:37] i think my mobo is trashed. Now my onboard snd won't work either. alsamixer says that snd_ctl_open fails even though it successfully configures it self with alsaconf [20:38] lsp hiptobecubic [20:38] hiptobecubic as root: lspci |grep -i "multi\|audio\|040[0-3]" and post output to this chan [20:39] 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) [20:39] CcSsNET_ (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:39] hiptobecubic run this command and then paste output to this channel: cat /proc/asound/modules [20:39] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [20:39] gnubien, snd_intel8x0 [20:40] fire|bird: is it chocking on icu-config? [20:40] hiptobecubic: run this command as sudo and unmute and set volumes: alsamixer -c 0 [20:40] neonflux: yeah, checking for icu-config... /usr/bin/icu-config [20:40] fire|bird: the ubuntu guys have a patch for it [20:41] neonflux: Hmm, cool. Is it on the forums somewhere? [20:41] fire|bird: I'll pastebin it [20:42] cool, thank you. :) [20:42] hmm, then you would have to call your install slackbuntu :o [20:42] omg [20:42] fire|bird: http://pastebin.ca/1639018 [20:42] gnubien, well i don't see what is different from what I did five minutes ago :) alsamixer just loaded... testing output [20:42] neonflux: thank you. [20:43] fire|bird: I haven't used it myselft though...but good luck [20:43] Naraku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] hiptobecubic close all sound apps and firefox and then ONLY report you have: sound, no sound or errors after you run this command: speaker-test -c2 -D hw:0,0 -t wav -l1 [20:43] thanks, I'll let you know if I find success with it. [20:44] silasgtcs (n=silasgtc@189.115.147.11) joined ##slackware. [20:44] gnubien, errors [20:45] hiptobecubic mv ~/.asoundrc ~/.asoundrc.bak; wait; mv /etc/asound.conf /etc/asound.conf.bak [20:45] ViN86 (i=ViN86@18.95.6.21) joined ##slackware. [20:45] "wait" [20:45] ? [20:45] the command wait, i assume [20:46] hiptobecubic, yeah... [20:46] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:47] hiptobecubic: yep, bash command [20:47] gnubien, done [20:47] i think there's also a sleep command [20:47] hiptobecubic: if either file got moved the retry the speaker-test command [20:47] i know of sleep :) [20:47] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:47] gnubien, same error [20:47] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [20:48] hiptobecubic boot the latest ubuntu live CD and test sound; if sound works your install is broken somehow OR your alsa drivers are too old OR you have an alsa bug [20:48] hiptobecubic: or your card maybe borked [20:48] OR the motherboard is crazy and this problem is the next one to surface [20:48] hiptobecubic: you might try a reboot first, reboot clears the cards registers if you shutdown, power off then reboot [20:49] gnubien, fair enough. [20:49] hiptobecubic: lots of options :) [20:49] silasgtcs (n=silasgtc@189.115.147.11) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:50] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [20:53] Hmm, that patch didn't work, same error. [20:54] gnubien, cold boot 'fixed' it [20:54] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:55] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-144-193.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:56] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-148-77.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [20:56] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [20:57] hiptobecubic: ok, corrupt sound card registers i bet [20:58] hiptobecubic: happens sometimes, bad urls usually, sometimes sound apps have bugs too [21:01] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [21:02] gnubien, well here it is again. The only thing i can say i was doing both time i noticed it was playing audio with mplayer [21:04] giuppy (n=giuppy@host193-53-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:04] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [21:04] hiptobecubic: reboot and try another sound app like mpg321, etc [21:05] hiptobecubic: the mp3 file maybe corrupt too, try another sound file to play [21:09] umislack (n=sleek@58.64.94.147) left irc: "Leaving" [21:11] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.43.251) joined ##slackware. [21:14] jinjii (n=fabio@host189-17-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [21:14] I think there's something wrong with icu-config, I can't even run icu-config --version without getting an error. I'll try rebuilding it. [21:16] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: "Leaving." [21:16] fire|bird: manually running icu-config --version or during the configure of couchdb? [21:16] manually [21:16] hmmm...mine returns 4.2.1 [21:16] fire|bird, $ARCH issue? [21:17] yeah, so something isn't right, I'm rebuilding icu4c right now to see if that helps [21:17] thrice`: I wouldn't think so. I guess anything is possible. [21:17] fire|bird, are you on 64-bit? [21:17] I'll see if a rebuild solves anything. [21:17] thrice`: no, this is on 32bit [21:18] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.157.147) joined ##slackware. [21:22] deco_ (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:22] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:22] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:23] alright, a rebuild of icu4c fixed it. [21:23] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: "bbiab" [21:24] yay! 1.6.2.2 is in slack! [21:24] *wicd 1.6.2.2 [21:25] where? [21:25] ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt [21:25] It hasn't reached the mirrors yet. [21:26] aah, I had to refresh [21:26] thrice`: waiting that anxious for it? ;) [21:31] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] alkos333_3 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:32] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: "Don't follow me" [21:32] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:32] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-250-13.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:33] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [21:34] _bruno (n=bruno@189-47-250-13.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [21:34] hey guys :) if port 1 is closed, and peer-to-peer uses port but reports that it's closed, then no one should be able to connect to me and i shouldn't be able to connect to them. <---- is that right? [21:35] s/uses port/uses port 1 [21:35] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [21:36] everyone run, it's antler. :) [21:36] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [21:36] Action: antler chalks the sharpest point of his antler [21:36] ut oh [21:37] ...and aims it right at fire|bird 's eye [21:37] :D [21:37] Action: fire|bird quick puts on safety goggles. [21:38] hahah how you doing? long time no see [21:38] doing great, thanks. you? [21:38] excellent except for this closed port thing :P [21:39] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [21:39] transmission says port X is closed, yet people are connecting to me, and i to them, via port x. how's that possible? [21:39] magic? :P [21:39] bug in transmission? [21:40] NaCl: more like bug in my head [21:40] obviously something i'm not doing right :P [21:40] su -c "upgradepkg antler_brain.txz" [21:40] antler, transmission had a brain fart due to excess cosmic rays [21:40] probably because you're not on eart [21:41] *earth [21:41] Or there is too much NaCl in your internets [21:41] Action: antler sticks an acme stick of dynamite in the tubes and sends it over to edman007 's house [21:42] *KABOOM* [21:42] Action: edman007 watches antler blow up [21:42] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:42] All things are possible, except for skiing through a revolving door. [21:42] antler, acme products always hurt the user, not the target :P [21:42] fortune, i accept your challenge [21:42] damnit! i inadvertantly played myself as the coyote [21:42] :P [21:42] spook: I have a feeling you'll take on that challenge while drunk. Am I right? :P [21:42] (and not the roadrunner) [21:43] fire|bird: i'd take that challenge sober [21:43] spook: did you think of that yourself? :P [21:43] i'd do it naked, while drunk [21:43] antler: no, fortune thought of it for him. ;) [21:43] antler: a lot of the coyote's failings were due to his own incompetence. :P [21:43] NaCl: a lot, if not all. [21:44] NaCl: i would say ALL of his failings are due to him NOT READING THE DOCUMENTATION [21:44] WWJD? JWRTFM. :P [21:44] lol [21:44] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:44] *HINT HINT* to all you people with problems out there [21:45] apparently lcd screens are polarised. [21:45] spook, i read the docs, the headers, the source, the examples, and asked in irc and now i'm trying the mailing list, i still can't figure it out [21:46] then you see spook [21:46] edman007: well then its okay to ask questions :P [21:46] edman007: you didn't read the binary. Do that first. [21:46] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] edman007: that job of yours is what you expected? [21:46] edman007: can you kill ppl and not go to jail because of it? [21:47] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [21:47] fire|bird: anything new lately? :) [21:47] NaCl, i grepped the build tree, that included the binaries... [21:47] winter, in a round about way... [21:47] antler: No, not really. Any thing new with you? [21:47] edman007: that works [21:47] s/Any thing/Anything/ [21:47] though what i work on hopefully will never be used, and thus nobody will die [21:48] fire|bird: naw nothing special. same old thing. haven't gotten around to installing 13 yet, though [21:48] antler, honestly not doing much so far, spent all of today browsing the web and getting paid, but i get to spend next week on travel [21:48] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:48] traveling to the red light district, right? [21:49] spook, well i was told that there is a strip club that shows up on your CC as a "Restaurant" [21:50] hello [21:50] Action: edman007 waves [21:50] Action: NaCl also waves [21:51] help please. I was using the system normally and a X freezes i rebooted the box. now when I try to open xchat retuns an error: http://powtrix.pastebin.com/d18e48275 [21:51] edman007: heh [21:51] edman007: nice [21:52] powtrix: upgraded recently? [21:52] well i was online 25 days ago :) [21:52] looks like some perl module didn't get upgraded. [21:52] the slackware updates were did [21:52] i tried reinstall the perl but it didn't fix [21:53] You need to rebuild xchat, afaict. [21:53] alienBOB: ^ [21:53] reinstall you mean? [21:53] Um... [21:53] Action: edman007 leaves in hopes the dbus mailing list responds [21:53] Maybe. [21:54] upgrade --reinstall did not fixed it :/ [21:55] if you are on -current, xchat needs to be rebuilt [21:55] hm [21:55] let me try then [21:55] thrice`: it just worked for me. [21:55] are you using perl modules? [21:55] no\ [21:55] Action: NaCl tries [21:57] it was working since 12.2 [21:57] yes, perl modules were loaded normally [21:57] thrice`: actually, it managed to load the perl interface [21:58] ha! [21:58] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-25-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:58] got working again Xchat :D [21:58] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "leaving" [21:58] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [21:59] thanks for help ! [22:00] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [22:01] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:03] sweetandy (n=sweetand@c-98-237-235-242.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] i tried to test "Coolbits" "1" on xorg.conf and a test fron nvidia-settings freezed the X [22:08] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:08] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [22:10] FDCX (i=0@188.25.147.106) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:11] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [22:11] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.25) joined ##slackware. [22:11] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:12] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] i was there in slackwaregallery, who put a volcano photo [22:12] vaporizator [22:13] http://slackwaregallery.org/ [22:13] i was seeing a volcano photo [22:13] a weed vapo [22:17] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:21] Nick change: deco_ -> deco [22:22] drunkenpaw (n=drunkenp@68.33.60.142) joined ##slackware. [22:22] hey guys [22:22] hey [22:22] greetings mfillpot [22:22] arcaos (n=arcaos@190.177.56.59) joined ##slackware. [22:23] is slackware so good that we have no problems to talk about? [22:24] yeah... [22:24] we can always talk about cats.. [22:24] I guess then I can gripe about laptops, I hate those damn things [22:24] mfillpot: I'm trying to build Mozilla Labs raindrop. :P [22:24] ..... [22:24] deco: no!!! [22:25] deco: not cats! [22:25] ? [22:25] esoteric: well... silence then... [22:25] fire|bird: what is raindrops? [22:25] deco: ;) [22:25] heh [22:26] mfillpot: A Mozilla Messaging project to combine e-mails, twitter, facebook, etc. messages in one app. Very early stages so far though. [22:26] The laptop that I was working on two ways ago that had the bad battery and hd, now it turns out that the mobo is also going out quickly from overheating. [22:27] fire|bird: the whole social networking thing is two much, that tool is for the tools... wouldn't an rss reader give you enough info? [22:27] drunkenpaw (n=drunkenp@68.33.60.142) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:27] drunkenpaw (n=drunkenp@c-68-33-60-142.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] mfillpot: haha, yeah, I don't have any social networking accounts even, just more was going to build it out of curiousity, but it's proving to be a pain in the rear. [22:28] fire|bird: personally I am more interested in google wave, the concept seems quite useful [22:28] mfillpot: yeah, I signed up as a tester for that, but haven't received anything yet from Google. [22:29] fire|bird: I am waiting for the invite also [22:30] I think that will be a very useful tool. At first, I sort of questioned the need for it, but after reading more and seeing more videos, it looks really cool. [22:31] The concepts of collaborative documents, realtime e-mail is and the notes for the modifications are very appealing [22:31] anyone using urxvt in kde? [22:31] yeah, I anxiously await an invite. [22:32] I have problems with transparency in kde4 still [22:32] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] dive: have you installed your proprietary drivers? [22:33] mfillpot, it works fine in fluxbox so drivers aren't the problem I think [22:33] something in kde messes up trans in urxvt [22:34] what sort of transfer speeds are to be expected over home network ethernet with sata drives? [22:34] I deliberately used eth0 instead of wireless, but the max I am getting is 7mb/s [22:34] and also mrxvt I just noticed [22:35] cryptic0: is your lan 10/100/1000? [22:35] mfillpot, yes [22:35] it's routed through dd-wrt on WRT54GL [22:35] cryptic0: which speed is the router set to operate on? [22:36] hmmm good question, let me check [22:36] dive: I am sorry I have not installed those apps, so I cannot assist [22:37] mfillpot, any idea where that info would be on dd-wrt user interface? [22:38] hey guys, best distro to use it with tv? [22:38] acidtripper: ubuntu [22:38] i mean to watch movies, play some emulators [22:38] naahh [22:38] Slackware + xbmc. \o/ [22:40] cryptic0: sorry, I haven't used my router with dd-wrt in a while, I can't tell you [22:41] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:41] does anyone in here know how to get the max network speed from slackware? [22:43] xbmc? [22:44] xbox? [22:44] :P [22:45] acidtripper: XBMC Media Center (formerly named XBox Media Center) is a cross-platform free and open source software media-player and entertainment hub [22:45] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [22:45] yes, bp im on it webpage, is cool [22:45] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:45] does it work with celeron 2.4 256mb ram? [22:46] im trr [22:46] ing solaris [22:47] what? [22:47] mfillpot: Get a better NIC? [22:47] cryptic0: have you checked the status tab in dd-wrt? [22:48] straterra: a new NIC for what? [22:48] 22:41 < mfillpot> does anyone in here know how to get the max network speed from slackware? [22:49] CcSsNET_ (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:49] straterra: I think is was misunderstood, is there a tool that can be used to get an output of the network link speed while in slackware? [22:49] ntop [22:49] iftop [22:49] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:53] straterra: iftop is not showing the available bandwidth [22:54] What do you mean available? [22:54] Subtract the link speed from the speed of everything combined [22:54] Assuming you aren't talking about something that magically detects your internet speed and shows you how much bandwidth is left [22:55] but we want magic :( [22:55] straterra: we have someone trying to figure out what their local network speed is set to 100, 1000 or 1000 [22:55] So you want link speed? [22:55] mfillpot: ethtool mii-tool [22:55] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-34-173.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:56] mfillpot: No offense..but you're not very good at explaining what you want to know [22:56] I think we have stumbled upon what is basically bashphorism #1. "the questioner's first description of the problem/question will be misleading." [22:57] Yeah, I wasn't the best at describing it [22:59] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] BP{k}: ty, mii-tool does the job [23:00] cryptic0: are you still there? [23:04] Nick change: mrselfpwn -> mrpawnage [23:04] solved: I used fbsetbg to set background and urxvt/mrxvt picked it up [23:04] I believe conky has the same problem [23:05] hello all [23:05] moning [23:05] on the subject of terminals; [23:05] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [23:06] jeo (n=jeo@c-24-5-73-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] I sense a long question [23:06] spidersenses picking up typing [23:07] ssh into another machine under normal console displays correctly the screen when using ncurses. On the other hand in X when I use xrvt-unicode or other terminal emulators the ncurses has some weird characters. [23:07] heheh [23:07] both machines are set to use utf8 [23:07] jeo (n=jeo@c-24-5-73-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:07] yxz97 (n=jose@201.194.46.86) joined ##slackware. [23:08] figabo (n=Slacker@189.186.157.147) left irc: "Saliendo" [23:08] even with xfce terminal/konsole? [23:08] jeo (n=jeo@c-24-5-73-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:08] yes xfce terminal is the "other" [23:08] haven't used konsole [23:08] hello there humans.. [23:09] which font(s) are you using? [23:09] moning yxz97 [23:09] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-18-163.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:09] monospace [23:09] dive where are you [23:09] try libertation sans mono [23:09] kk [23:09] UK yxz97 [23:09] Oleg_ (n=you@pool-173-68-243-62.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] greetings yxz97 [23:10] mrpawnage, also if you are using screen you might want to check that it's set for utf8 too [23:10] hi firedix [23:10] hi fire|bird [23:10] encoding UTF-8 defutf8 on [23:10] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-136.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] er on two lines though [23:11] paste fail [23:11] dive: nope, not using screen in this particular instance though have had it happen with that too. What should I do to change it? man screen? [23:11] encoding UTF-8 [23:11] defutf8 on [23:11] jeo (n=jeo@c-24-5-73-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:11] okay [23:11] in ~/.screenrc [23:12] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-198.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:12] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [23:12] gotcha, thank you [23:13] dive: guess what. libertarian fixed it. :) [23:13] jeo (n=jeo@c-24-5-73-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] yeah it's a good font [23:13] many characters [23:13] i figured it was a font issue, though wasn't sure which would be good. thx bro [23:14] many charactersnp [23:14] opps [23:14] np [23:14] jeo (n=jeo@c-24-5-73-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:14] typing in the dark is fun [23:14] praise the thinklight ;-) [23:15] lol [23:15] acidtripper (n=gonzalo@190.19.235.226) left irc: "Leaving" [23:16] hehe. :) [23:16] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:18] blinkenlites [23:18] kiran_ (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) joined ##slackware. [23:18] Action: deco is always typing in the darkness [23:19] elisdj (n=jeo@c-24-5-73-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:19] illuminated kb ftw [23:19] figabo (n=Slacker@96.9.182.21) joined ##slackware. [23:19] I am trying to install flash player 10 but it seem the tar.gz i downloaded contains only .so file [23:19] who needs an illuminated kb when you have a darn good flashlight. :P [23:20] Action: andarius now has an image of fire|bird typing with both hands and a flashlight hanging out of his mouth... [23:20] kiran copy the .so file to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins if that is where your plugin directory is [23:20] hahahaha [23:20] ill take the illuminated kb :P [23:20] hehe ok [23:20] cool [23:20] andarius: Maybe that explains the high dental bills. :P [23:20] lol [23:21] kiran make sure fox is closed [23:22] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:22] kiyoura: another option is to put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins for a per user solution. [23:22] ezr (n=jpb@97-80-124-147.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:22] candle powah! [23:23] ^kiran_ [23:23] candles are cool [23:24] i love a good candle [23:25] firefox can be open but to make the flash work you need to restart firefox [23:25] good night folks, calling it a day [23:25] night hitest [23:25] nn [23:25] later hitest [23:26] kiran_: is that a question or a statement? [23:26] will_ (n=will@c-71-195-16-160.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:26] g' night fire|bird, dive, mrpawnage:) [23:26] mrpawnag:statement [23:26] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:26] k [23:27] will_ (n=will@c-71-195-16-160.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:27] will_ (n=will@c-71-195-16-160.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:28] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:29] will_ (n=will@c-71-195-16-160.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:30] renatosrabelo1 (n=renato@189.37.2.162) joined ##slackware. [23:32] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:35] how can i use curl to download something rather than outputting it to stdout? [23:36] Oh no, not Reticenti and a question. :P [23:36] =D [23:36] it's been awhile :P [23:36] Oleg_ (n=you@pool-173-68-243-62.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:37] Mr-S^b32 (n=Mr-S^b32@cc1182973-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:37] I tried doing "curl http://example.com/files[1-3].spx > file.spx" [23:37] but it didnt seperate the files [23:37] so the file was corrupted [23:38] use -o [23:39] thanks, thast what I was looking for [23:39] as defined in the man page to output to a file [23:39] next time look in "man $command" and your look will be more fruitful [23:40] the man page is rather long though... I did look through it [23:40] ... 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