[00:01] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:02] Action: jonsmith1982 reckons it would lag. [00:07] chazbro (n=chaz_bro@adsl-71-153-133-137.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:07] danc3: I've used alienBOB's synergy package myself. http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/synergy/ [00:07] chopp: cool, thanks [00:07] you're welcome [00:08] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:09] after a couple days of using it, you'll be asking yourself: how did i manage to work without it before [00:10] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: "kernel upgrade" [00:10] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-73-132.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] What is that "Bios Check" at slackware boot time? it never happened when i was using grub and it takes forever [00:10] chazbro (n=chaz_bro@adsl-71-153-133-137.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [00:10] Loading Slackware64 ....................................................................... [00:11] hiptobecubic : those dots? [00:11] yes [00:12] hiptobecubic : they represent lilo loading the kernel into memory [00:12] and it ends with Bios Check or Bios Ram Test or something. i don't recall [00:12] ananke, I suppose that confuses me because grub never had to do it [00:12] hiptobecubic : if it seems to take a long time, add 'compact' on a line in /etc/lilo.conf and re-run lilo [00:12] hmm [00:13] hey guys anyone in here setup/used a PXE server to install slack? [00:13] Shrp_ : yes [00:13] Fun fact: If you have any amount of paper money in your wallet, pockets, purse...you're probably carrying around some cocaine too ;) [00:13] how do i edit pxelinux.0 [00:13] you don't [00:13] 90% chance if you live in New York [00:13] how doi make one [00:13] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:13] quasar: lol [00:13] seriously [00:14] Shrp_ : uhmm, if you wanted to edit it, wouldn't you have it in the first place? [00:14] well i am trying to install slack64 on my laptop [00:14] and i have a pxelinux.0 for slack32 [00:14] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [00:15] Shrp_ : pxelinux.0 will work for both architectures [00:15] and i am getting a "PXE bootfilname" error [00:15] what gives you that error, at what point, and is this the _full_ error? [00:16] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:16] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:16] the lappy, which i am trying to boot from the server. I get it right after it establishes a DHCP server [00:16] i meant connection [00:16] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] chances are your dhcp's configuration points to a wrong place for pxelinux.0 [00:17] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:17] let me double check [00:17] best thing to do is to have tftp server that logs all the requests, so you can see what's going on [00:17] i checked through dhcpd.conf already [00:17] thats another good idea.. [00:18] you can show us your dhcp config [00:18] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [00:19] wow.. i did indeed have the wrong path in dhcpd.conf [00:19] :( [00:19] you know how to fix a git corrupted file ? [00:20] does fc-cache need to be run every boot? That seems unnecessary, i don't add fonts... ever [00:20] no hiptobecubic [00:20] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] thanks a bunch ananke :) working now [00:20] Shrp_ :) [00:21] ut oh someone is playing with rc.M [00:21] Action: ananke tends to disable ldconfig and fc-cache from bootup scripts [00:22] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:23] it's all fun and games until an so gets lost [00:23] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Fuck off with your Star Trek ideas" [00:24] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:24] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [00:25] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-119-8.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:28] Ugh, the contacts in my laptop's card reader are all messed up, bent, etc. :/ [00:28] you're screwed [00:29] antiwire: this is the second mobo in it, not new granted, but dang. :P [00:29] If there is any saving grace left in the universe, that card reader is a modular piece and can be removed form the motherboard without desoldering. [00:29] if not...well... [00:29] mornin [00:29] form/from* [00:29] antiwire: It is friggen soldered. [00:30] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-200-76.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [00:30] theres always usb card readers [00:30] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-73-132.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Dead socket [00:30] antiwire: I was wondering why I'd put a card in there and the light would come on yet nothing would happen, so I looked in there and I see a bent mess. [00:30] tank-man: yeah, I have one too, but dang, I have the worse luck. :P [00:31] antiwire: bad form to replace from with form [00:31] :O [00:31] if you're left to desoldering you can only use a desoldering tool and desoldering solder [00:31] antiwire: any chance of straightening those contacts? I know, that's a stretch. [00:31] fire|bird: In all honestly, slim [00:32] they usually break off first [00:32] honesty** [00:32] antiwire: yeah, that's what I figured, but thought I'd ask. [00:32] I wanted honesty, thanks. :) [00:32] I've been there and have had to desolder sockets like that. it's extremely difficult even when you have the proper gear [00:33] those sockets usually have some surface mount as well as through hole joints which makes getting everything loose at the same time a freak of all things natural [00:33] Well, I have two other lappy's here atm, one not working at all (mobo) and another one that the kb doesn't work at all and if you right click anything the speakers go nuts with a sound like a motor boat (one of windows sounds, almost like it gets stuck) [00:34] so I'm guessing mobo (cpu maybe?) with that one as well. [00:34] two different kb's, same issue. [00:35] could be a broken keyboard connector socket on the board [00:35] if the board had ever overheated it could have popped a pin off from warping [00:35] kbd controler boards are replacable [00:36] antiwire: another question (I know I've asked a lot lately), but (and this is still windows) but sometimes when it goes into hibernate, it comes back to an extent, but nothing on the screen, windows issue or something else? [00:36] could be ram or a driver issue [00:36] it's hard to troubleshoot those things [00:36] Quiznos: yeah, but again involves desoldering & soldering [00:36] antiwire: yeah, aside from that it's been working great. :P [00:36] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:36] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-73-132.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:36] fire|bird sorry, but not from the innards i've seen [00:37] fire|bird are you discussin std kbd's? [00:37] Quiznos: it really depends on the laptop. [00:37] o [00:37] we are talking about laptops. [00:37] k [00:37] Quiznos: Well it is by the looks of the inside of this laptop. :) [00:37] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:37] Donnie! [00:37] no just late :) [00:37] I've had these apart quite a bit lately. :P [00:37] It's fun too. :D [00:37] heh [00:38] windows on my lappy rm'd its own boot file. [00:38] Except when stuff is broken and it's not easy to diagnose. [00:38] antiwire: If I could get a darn working image of that hdd, I'd have slack in there and could see if issues still existed. [00:41] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:41] antiwire: Thanks for answering all my questions. :) [00:43] you're welcome but also, replacing that socket isn't out of the question but other than replacing the whole board it will take desoldering [00:43] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:44] lagann_ (n=hex@24.61.204.30) left irc: Connection timed out [00:44] antiwire: yeah, I don't have any experience with soldering at all and I don't have any known good, no issues, mobo's here right now and the one I could get is from a family member and I think he planned on keeping that one around for himself. :P [00:46] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:47] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:48] adub (n=a@32.150.215.52) joined ##slackware. [00:50] yarvin (n=yarvin@105-200-58-66.gci.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:51] adub (n=a@32.150.215.52) left ##slackware. [00:52] Nick change: Quiznos -> ElmerJFudd [00:52] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:53] heh, by the looks of it, those contacts are already broken. [00:55] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [00:56] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] greetings and salutations [00:56] greetings andarius, now are you? [00:56] how* [00:56] salutations fire|bird, i am well. you ? [00:57] andarius: doing great, thank you. :) [00:57] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-0-92.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [00:58] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] antiwire: Yeah, i found that out about libnice last night when i was trying to get it to work with you remember? [01:00] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-73-132.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:00] i didn't have any thing show up for gst-inspect nice [01:00] doh [01:00] lol [01:01] did you rebuild though? [01:01] I finally went to bed at 4 today [01:01] LOL [01:01] 4pm? [01:01] I rebuilt it all in a totally clean VM [01:01] 4am [01:01] we went to bed at the same time then cuz i went to bed at 5am. [01:01] lol [01:01] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-0-92.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [01:02] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-0-92.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [01:02] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [01:02] antiwire: Ya, when i started working on it it was like 00:30. Next thing you know i'm pasting random README shit to you and it's like 4:30am here. [01:02] hahaha [01:03] I saw that paste and didn't know what to do with it [01:03] well i had a good intentions.. [01:03] i was looking at versions but then read the line, no less than. At first i thought it was saying it HAD to be these version. [01:03] Plus it listed some packages in there that we weren't using.. wasn't sure if we might need them. [01:04] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:04] srecko (n=srecko@93-141-0-92.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [01:05] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:05] antiwire: so did it work after the clean build's? [01:05] nope [01:05] it's unstable as all hell [01:05] we opened all the ports in the firewalls, rebuild from scratch in a clean VM, tested over and over [01:06] gah.. how dumb. [01:06] can 32bit ndis be used on 64bit? [01:09] every last one of them. 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[01:15] careing* [01:15] god damnit [01:15] -e [01:15] Action: chopp throws the remaining .'s at toastytoast [01:15] triple fail. [01:15] damn me [01:16] jsut forget i said that [01:16] toastytoast: put your hands on your chair, sit on your hands, don't move. :) [01:16] and yes [01:16] s/jsut/just/ [01:16] i know [01:16] i always spell just like jsut [01:16] fail has been realized, game on. [01:16] except that tiem [01:16] toastytoast: I wish i could forgot, but i have a backlog. [01:17] Action: fire|bird hits toastytoast in the head with a dictionary. :) [01:17] ow [01:17] fire|bird: careful, you might kill him. :P [01:17] you're mean meany [01:17] agentc0re: nah, it was one of those little pocket dictionaries. :) [01:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urNyg1ftMIU&feature=fvst LMAO [01:18] its ok i've been hit in the head with a D&D monster manual before irl [01:18] you know, the ones with the 1pt font. :) [01:18] i dented it [01:18] ... [01:18] wtf. [01:18] yeah that's braggable. [01:18] you just made your case worse. [01:18] lol [01:18] how many of you have manned the quad whopper? [01:18] haha [01:18] hey Rat409 :P [01:19] hey fire|bird et al [01:19] o.o [01:19] wtf is this? [01:19] my heart lies with grande meal from now until forever. [01:19] wtf isn't this? [01:19] quasar: This is ##slackware, enjoy your stay if you will, maintain your sanity if you can. :) [01:21] and silence [01:21] fire|bird: I can't believe I've watched half this youtube video and not gone blind/deaf [01:21] LOL [01:22] and i can't beleive it's not butter! [01:22] will you be my avatar? ;) [01:22] ... [01:22] no [01:22] begone evil one! [01:23] Nick change: bhodgins_ -> Fatalnix [01:23] Dude, you're the one that plays D&D... [01:23] whered he go? [01:23] LMAO [01:23] D&D is ac5ually rlly fun [01:23] me? [01:23] he is [01:23] he's a douchebag [01:23] and Fatalnix wants to learn how to play [01:23] oh stfu [01:23] NEVER! [01:23] toastytoast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyxnEKTjhj0 song for you and your D&D friends. [01:23] that d&d book in my laptop bag is just a heat sink for my laptop [01:23] and a very good one [01:24] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:24] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] right [01:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHdXG2gV01k <- is prolyl way better [01:24] however [01:24] It's D&D!!!!!! Never kissed a lady before! [01:25] o.o [01:25] alright.. I'm never going to another youtube link pasted in here. [01:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-Z_psXODw <- FUCKING PIRATE METAL! [01:25] lol [01:25] srsly [01:25] Steven Lynch is the best dude. [01:25] its frickin awesome [01:26] did i ever say he wasn't? [01:26] i don't beleive i did [01:26] unles i did and didn't realize it [01:26] lagann_ (i=hex@c-24-61-204-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:27] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:28] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [01:28] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:28] /die This command is for network staff only :( i can't even die now [01:28] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:29] and before you say anythign i know what that does [01:29] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:29] yep [01:30] lol [01:30] sure [01:30] Action: toastytoast is the slayer of ##slackware! [01:30] ... [01:30] and Fatalnix you don't count [01:30] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) left irc: "Leaving" [01:30] pretend swords don't count. [01:30] your mothers butter knifes don't either. [01:30] LMAO [01:30] we use real sword when why play [01:30] Action: dive coughs [01:31] had a few lawsuits on our hands for a while [01:32] apperently some ppl frown on decapitaing ppl [01:32] And that's where i call it. Nite all. [01:32] nite [01:32] night sexy ;) [01:33] :p [01:33] nn [01:33] sp|c (i=sl4ck3r@vr0.core-1.chi.cryption.cn) joined ##slackware. [01:34] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [01:34] Action: toastytoast goes and sits in the corner [01:34] Nick change: toastytoast -> emotoast [01:35] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:35] apperently nobody here injoys my silly antics [01:35] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:35] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [01:35] ahh.. the weather men here are lovely.. in the past 30 minutes we've gone from having 0 days in the forcast with rain to having 1.. then 2... now 3 [01:36] wish we would have some rain [01:37] I've got a weird thing going on with a server - I can still log into it over ssh, but every process that needs access to disk seems to be hanging up and I can't kill them ... I have some messages in syslog that indicate a stack trace [01:38] looks like maybe some function called "walk_page_buffers" in the ext3 module had a problem [01:38] anyone ever seen something like that ? [01:39] well i've had some games not want to die but kill 9 did the trick in the end [01:39] ... even "reboot" and "poweroff" hang up [01:39] oh wow [01:39] complexmess (n=complex@adsl-76-203-173-83.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:39] yeah, kill -9 isn't working on any of these [01:39] rawrawrawr [01:39] heloos [01:39] JaWiX (n=JaWiX@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [01:40] try nice -5 reboot? [01:41] actualmind (n=regis@187.41.235.82) joined ##slackware. [01:41] actualmind (n=regis@187.41.235.82) left irc: Client Quit [01:43] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [01:43] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-2-129.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:45] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:48] Action: emotoast is once again the slayer of ##slackware! [01:49] Action: fire|bird slays the slayer with a katana :) [01:50] Action: emotoast does battle with fire|bird with his razors [01:50] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427485.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:50] anka-ar (n=andres@unaffiliated/anka-ar) left irc: "leaving" [01:50] razors are no match for a katana :) [01:50] yeah your right [01:50] Action: fire|bird gets in his tank and aims at emotoast [01:50] Action: emotoast dies like a good little emo [01:50] Nick change: emotoast -> deadtoast [01:51] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427485.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:57] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [01:57] being dead is boring [01:57] Nick change: deadtoast -> zombietoast [01:58] Action: zombietoast stumbles around looking for brains to eat sadly he finds none [01:58] aw [01:58] Action: fire|bird gives zombietoast nix_chix0r's brain. :) [01:59] nooo [01:59] nix_chix0r: you weren't using it anyway, were you? :P [01:59] you guys missed it [01:59] right over your heads [01:59] :p [01:59] nah you're right [01:59] zombietoast: this coming from someone who has no head/brain himself. :P [02:00] Action: zombietoast is a zombie [02:00] Action: zombietoast doesn't need brains [02:00] aha, "reboot -nf" worked - well, at least the machine went down, we'll see if it comes back up [02:00] rm -rf /crack [02:00] er [02:01] Nick change: zombietoast -> toastytoast [02:01] sweet - machine came back up :) [02:02] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:03] thats good [02:03] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [02:03] Nick change: nix_chix0r -> burnt_toast [02:03] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:03] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:04] yadaaa [02:05] Nick change: fire|bird -> french_toast [02:05] :D [02:05] does everyone love me that much? [02:05] no [02:05] :P [02:05] Action: toastytoast sadface [02:05] Nick change: quasar -> texas_toast [02:05] sure! [02:05] haahah [02:06] the power of toast shall take over the world! [02:06] Nick change: texas_toast -> quasar [02:06] haha, texas toast [02:07] Nick change: burnt_toast -> fire|bird [02:07] i am gona build nix_chix0'rs deck [02:07] fire|bird: you won't last long with that one [02:07] Nick change: fire|bird -> nix_chix0r [02:07] If you don't identify in 30 seconds, you really are toast. :P [02:07] Nick change: french_toast -> fire|bird [02:07] hehe [02:08] a deck, can't your hubby do it? :P [02:08] i want you to do it [02:08] why me? :P [02:08] because you're in minnesota [02:08] so is Pat V. :P [02:09] who? [02:09] Action: fire|bird finds a truck, a trailer, and some lumber [02:09] nix_chix0r, you can't say that in here [02:09] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.60.188) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:09] nix_chix0r: you don't know who Pat V. is? You've used slackware for how long? :P [02:09] kk [02:10] hey edman007 [02:10] fire|bird, i switched to slackware64 [02:10] upgraded my kernel [02:10] fire|bird, never :o [02:10] edman007: awesome, I seen you went to it from slamd64, now'd that go? [02:10] and i'm running a xorg radeonhd driver from git [02:10] fire|bird, yup [02:11] nix_chix0r: Pat V. the guy who created slackware you newb. :P [02:11] srecko1 (n=srecko@78-1-152-147.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [02:11] s/now'd/how'd/ [02:11] cigarettesmoker (n=nika@212.45.14.5) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:11] edman007: sweet [02:11] fire|bird, and this new driver supports minimal 3d! [02:11] Xv works [02:11] edman007: Once I get a decent working hdd image of my laptop, that's where slack64 is going for me :) [02:12] and my audio drivers let me put my system beep through the speakers [02:12] so now i will know if people ping me :D [02:12] haha, that's cool [02:12] bad nix for not knowing the high and mighty name of PatV [02:12] heh [02:13] toasty! [02:13] where? [02:13] no toast here [02:13] Action: edman007 gets a flamethrower [02:13] woops [02:13] Action: ElmerJFudd hides [02:13] lol [02:13] toastytoast, needs butter..and a bit more FLAME!!! [02:13] woops [02:13] go eat the quad whopper [02:13] you life will never be the same [02:14] lol 4 days of rain now... amazing .. pretty soon it's gonna be a full month [02:14] quasar, so i picked today to return my cable box... [02:14] or be a sissy boy for the rest of ytour life [02:15] boo [02:15] i forgot that thunderstorms may effect the return process...the line was a mile long with people getting their fried equipment replaced [02:15] thundercats? [02:15] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [02:15] Hello! [02:15] weirdos [02:15] nix_chix0r, your not welcome here with your blasphemous quotes [02:15] why would they get it replaced? [02:15] you can't make someone pay for natural disaster [02:15] :( [02:15] Fatalnix, lightning fried their equipment [02:16] yeah [02:16] so trhey should buy a new one [02:16] not when they don't own it [02:16] and eat a quad whopper while they are at it [02:16] that is the one good thing about renting it [02:16] toast su about the whoppers [02:16] and you can't buy a cable box anyways, its illegal [02:16] its no longer funny [02:16] probably the only good thing about renting them [02:16] ah [02:16] quasar, yup [02:17] but you can make one :) [02:17] with ducttape [02:17] but the cables boxes have stuff in them that the cable companies made illegal for a non-cable operator to own [02:17] nix_chix0r you dint answer my line you to [02:17] ElmerJFudd, what was that [02:18] depends on the box really [02:18] oh well, like they'd care [02:18] reverse engineer it and be like woo [02:18] nix_chix0r bad nix for not knowing the high and mighty name of PatV [02:18] high and mighty ? [02:18] plsu a requisite `:)' [02:18] plus [02:19] he's exalted by us :) [02:19] lol [02:19] i don't think you got the sarcasm of my responses [02:19] ooooooo [02:19] yea, dint see them [02:19] andarius, well these digital cable ones have a bunch of crypto stuff in them for the cable companies and are plastered with stickers saying the fcc will fine your ass if you open it [02:19] lemme have one, i'm not afraid of no dead corporation [02:20] lemme at em, lemme at em! [02:20] Action: ElmerJFudd takes a fightin stance [02:20] Nick change: fire|bird -> Bugs_Bunny [02:20] :) [02:20] Whaddup Doc? [02:20] exit, stage left [02:20] AHAH! [02:20] sarcasm on IRC shall not be shown by enclosing your text in carats, for example: ^this is sarcasm^ [02:20] Action: ElmerJFudd grabs the riffle [02:20] ^works well, doesn't it?^ [02:20] i got you in my sight now, you dead wabbit [02:21] Action: Bugs_Bunny sticks a cork in ElmerJFudd's rifle [02:21] you're gonna meat your maker [02:21] s/not/now/ [02:21] B00M [02:21] damn missed [02:21] just like you always do [02:21] though google is saying that they past a law recently saying that now the cable companies have to offer standard crypto cards that can go into any cable box [02:21] Action: Bugs_Bunny puts some ACME under ElmerJFudd. :) [02:21] edman007 from what legislature? [02:21] oh oh ! [02:22] http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/12/0043249 [02:22] KAAABBBBOOOOM [02:22] aren't you legally allowed to break the encryption as long as you /don't/ reverse engineer anything? [02:22] damn urls [02:22] i thought it was rabbit season [02:22] Oh, look at that, ElmerJFudd bits [02:22] Nick change: ElmerJFudd -> PurpleSmurf [02:22] Nick change: Bugs_Bunny -> phoenix^ [02:22] that is good because i could buy my own box, but the one i had still had the crypto stuff built in [02:22] Action: andarius tazes PurpleSmurf.. your supposed to be blue! [02:22] all praise ElmerJFudd, the late, great billionaire; who owned a mansion and a yacht [02:22] no no, i'm purple [02:23] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:23] Action: andarius tazes again [02:23] andarius: he held his breath to long. [02:23] aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh [02:23] edman007 can i get a tinyurl on that pls? [02:23] PurpleSmurf: NO, you will click or copy/paste the url like anybody else would. :) [02:23] bbiab [02:23] aww [02:24] cant click, not in gui; cant paste; no such command. [02:24] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:24] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.60.188) joined ##slackware. [02:24] http://tinyurl.com/mr58to [02:24] tyvm [02:25] that was January of 2007.. surely they have a decision on the appeal by now, right? [02:25] edman007 in first sentence; wow! [02:25] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) joined ##slackware. [02:25] but that's about "channels" not internet [02:26] yea [02:26] still interesting but i'm of a mind to think that we the people hate having to plug things in that "opt in" to services we want. [02:26] i know i do [02:26] i want it all or nothing. [02:27] well... [02:27] hehe [02:27] yea [02:27] ok ty for that url [02:27] ugh.. comcast seemingly has quite a few run-ins with the FCC.. glad I dont have 'em [02:27] btw, FCC doesnt and cannot make Law; that is strictly the province of Congress (legislatures in general) [02:27] i'm on their net. [02:28] Action: andarius has comcast internet, is goot [02:28] srecko1 (n=srecko@78-1-152-147.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [02:28] lies [02:28] BadAtom (n=BadAtom@supporter/active/BadAtom) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:28] andarius you like their service that you pay for? [02:29] optonline sucks [02:29] i'm dubious of them but I'm currently in Florida, with alot of lightening activity, so I have to give them some slack bc of. [02:29] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.70.32) joined ##slackware. [02:29] everyone knows that [02:29] i do. it is very fast for me. pretty much no down time [02:29] BadAtom (n=BadAtom@supporter/active/BadAtom) joined ##slackware. [02:29] though i am near a major area so... [02:29] andarius where bout? [02:29] just NE of ATL [02:29] internet isn't only about speed though [02:29] kk [02:29] andarius, i'll have 20meg/20meg fios in a month [02:29] that's vnice [02:30] my mom has fios i think; i dl'd a iso in less than 30min once [02:30] i have 15/2 cable. my speeds are normaly on the high side however [02:30] i was impressed [02:30] and i checked, they only block port 25 for consumer lines, and even that is optional [02:30] speedtests put me near 21 [02:30] kool [02:30] andarius, thats their "boost", they give you 20-30meg for 30-60 seconds, and then kill it to what you pay for [02:30] ya know, when cable com's advertise on tv, they dont mention that one is sharing a dable line in a neighborhood. [02:31] so the test reads high [02:31] http://tinyurl.com/r3bgaw <-- earlier this month [02:31] edman007: no kill here. i pull that high non stop some times [02:31] after skrool hours and dinner time sharing sux [02:31] most times actualy [02:31] which is why i do my BIG downloads at night. [02:32] like right now, all my modem leds are pinned for what i'm dl'ing. [02:32] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:32] andarius, where i work they have the 30 meg boost, i HATE them, so much crap they throw at you, so many ports blocked [02:33] they don't even allow outbound port 25 [02:33] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-2-129.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:33] ive not had any port issues [02:33] no service issues at all really. i have been very impressed with them here [02:33] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-5-130.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:33] andarius, tried sending mail through your own mailserver? [02:33] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:33] i dont have one, would be senseless for me [02:34] edman007 then the normal thingy to do is tunnel out :) (Stalag 13, here I come!!!) rofl [02:34] however outbound 25 is fine [02:34] PurpleSmurf, yea, pay for 30 meg and be required to use a proxy? [02:34] edman007 well if they wont negotiate a better deal for you then sure. [02:34] whatever is necesa [02:35] right now i'm on charter, they don't block anything, just give me the crapified dns [02:35] "crap"? [02:35] oh dns [02:35] well that's easy to fix [02:36] their dns servers can't return a not found error, instead they return the ip of a server owned by charter [02:36] and if they raise objection via agreement, then file administrative complaint [02:36] nods [02:36] the charter service i had was terrible. [02:36] click-through agreements are not enforcable [02:36] in the states [02:36] and overseas i think [02:37] no, defin.ly not overseas [02:37] wrong jurisdiction. [02:37] andarius, their customer service is terrible, but i never thought their actual internet service was that bad, no blocks and such like comcast [02:37] iow, ie, france cant tell england what to do [02:37] nor to the citizens of foreign jurisdictions. [02:37] the charter service i had had port issues, service issues, support issues and on and on and on [02:37] even billing issues... [02:38] andarius you mean clauses setting up restrictions? [02:38] oh services probs [02:38] no, i mean the service was poor [02:38] yea [02:38] i wonder why [02:38] random port blocks, down time and so on [02:38] poor NOC personnel? [02:38] yea [02:38] porly trained NOCites? [02:38] i think that is what it comes down to most of the time. the people who maintain the network in that area [02:39] nods [02:39] andarius, they had the random port blocks 5+ years ago, but the last couple of years i have had nothing blocked [02:39] inbound or outbount [02:39] as i have had comcast before and it sucked. here however it is wonderful [02:39] edman007: that is how things are for me here as far as i know [02:39] as noted, i have not had any port issues [02:39] on comcast that is [02:39] it sucked up in pennsy when i was there; comcast bought Adelphia, the local isp; still suxed [02:40] Seuss (n=Seuss@vpn.itshidden.com) joined ##slackware. [02:40] down here in fla. it still suxs but lightening is unpredictable; weeks and months can pass without issue [02:40] i'v already switched to opendns for the expanded namespace [02:41] time for me to test a kernel and then rack out. you ladies and gents have a good $time [02:41] gn [02:41] hello i am looking for some help regarding the 64 bit current [02:41] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "my hardware is compatible because i choose compatible hardware. is that simple" [02:41] i gotta send a note to openDNS about their iframe they use for dns-404's; tell em to stop doing that. [02:41] waiting... [02:42] Seuss [02:42] Seuss, well start asking [02:42] oh sorry im a bit lost at times [02:42] so 63-current? [02:42] lol [02:42] no [02:42] i tried upgrading to it with slackpkg [02:42] and? [02:42] afterwards i fet an error loggin in [02:42] PurpleSmurf, you can disable the not found stuff... [02:42] tty1 related [02:43] i dont think so [02:43] but it's not a redirecting error page [02:43] just a verbose msg [02:44] which dns does not support, so they did it by redirecting you [02:45] the error is "Unable to determine your tty name." [02:45] i dont think so technically; the get the request that fails from their db, and instead of redirecting they return a "404" page [02:45] the get/they get [02:45] Seuss, what did you do to get that error? [02:45] PurpleSmurf, dns does not return pages [02:45] yea i know [02:45] all it does is direct you [02:45] but it's in http stream [02:45] which is not dns [02:46] uh i followed the instructions on the slackpkg page to move to current64 [02:46] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:46] but since the req came from a http-dns lookup... [02:46] for them to give you an http stream they have to direct you to their server and not return an error [02:46] how is a 404 page not a error? [02:46] the page can be made by their dns-code [02:47] because to get a http message you have to connect to a server, to connect to a server without entering an ip you have to have a successful dns result [02:47] hmm, i could turn off auto-redir in the bowser [02:47] ok [02:47] they control both together, you can ask their servers to return an error when one exists [02:47] i dont know about that [02:48] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [02:48] well the only issue i have with their page is the embedded iframe. [02:48] there's no reason for it given how its rendered [02:53] Nick change: PurpleSmurf -> Quiznos [02:54] edman007, nvm i found a work arround [02:55] \o/ [02:55] Action: edman007 bites Quiznos [02:56] Action: chopp lends edman007 his rabies kit [02:57] even animal control stays clear [02:59] i've got TV guide channel on, and bx client shows the time; it's nice to see that ntpd finally got kclock set correctly; less than a second diff tween kclock and tvguide time. [03:00] Action: phoenix^ uses his universal remote to start randomly changing Quiznos' channels [03:00] woops [03:00] Nanny is on now. [03:01] UGH, I HATE The Nany [03:01] Nanny [03:01] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:01] chopp, but he is a toasty sub! [03:02] edman007: He's been sitting out on the counter for about a week, he's not toasty anymore. :) [03:02] you're entitled but i htink you're seriously wrong :) [03:02] You can't be wrong when it's your own opinion. :) [03:03] yea, that's what i like about em [03:03] lol [03:03] being self-deluding can be fun [03:03] phoenix^, my opinion is always wrong [03:03] but i'm not, or rather, I only have like one or 2 issews that i'm self deluding on :) [03:03] but it does not stop me [03:03] just like I hate the Bill Cosby Show. :D [03:04] why phoenix^ ? [03:04] hmm, 3am...i should sleep [03:04] gn? [03:04] Quiznos: I just don't like that show, I never have. I can't pinpoint a specific reason, I just don't. [03:04] ok [03:05] edman007: bah, that's early, sleep's overrated. :P [03:05] edman007 not enuf caffeine to make a diff [03:05] phoenix^, but i probably should.... [03:05] edman007: It's 02:05, you're an hour fast anyway. :P [03:06] ok... [03:06] lol [03:06] phoenix^ _Odd Couple_? [03:06] edman007: nah, just joking, get some sleep man, see ya, take care. [03:07] Quiznos: Never seen it so can't comment. [03:07] ok [03:07] i shall go, night [03:07] night edman007 [03:07] gn [03:07] moarn. [03:07] howdy BP{k} [03:09] Action: phoenix^ hands BP{k} a cup of coffee. :) [03:09] phoenix^: thanks :D *plugs in the IV needle* [03:10] BP{k} omg thats what i say to the waitress!!! "bring an IV too pls?" [03:10] they always laf [03:10] BP{k}: I'm rebuilding kde 4.3, go ahead, say I'm crazy. :P [03:10] Quiznos: I don't go out in public until I have had 3 buhkit of coffee. [03:11] ok lol [03:11] carafes [03:12] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.60.188) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:13] although i think i need to fast from caffeine; body isnt neutralising it fast enough for me; my sleep pattern has changed. [03:13] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:15] Quiznos: my sleeping pattern is mostly fucked up anyway. Although I stick to usual a couple of cups these days instead of 20 a day [03:16] I've been completely caffeine free for about 3 weeks now [03:16] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [03:16] BP{k} nods [03:16] that doesn't mean I feel better though... [03:16] antiwire feeling better? [03:16] woops [03:17] lol [03:17] ok [03:17] I just got back from a 7 mile hike/walk [03:17] phoenix^: building it with PolicyKit and all? opr without? [03:18] lagann_ (i=hex@c-24-61-204-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:18] Action: BP{k} sections antiwire under the mental health act [03:18] FFS; fat finger syndrome :") [03:18] BP{k}: without [03:18] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:19] this never gets old for some reason http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ [03:19] i wonder... can that be done? [03:21] nop; mplayer cannot grab that feed [03:21] in console [03:22] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [03:22] lagann_ (i=hex@c-24-61-204-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:23] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:24] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [03:27] got 303 error on mplayering youtube. what's that? [03:28] i've checked the toob url above 3times [03:28] Quiznos: that's why I wrote a script to grab videos lol [03:28] i think it's a typo; hold [03:28] doesn't work with urls though.. will have to fix it to do that hmm [03:28] ok new error. [03:28] The HTTP response status code 303 See Other is the correct manner in which to redirect web applications to a new URI, particularly after an HTTP POST has been performed. [03:28] it was a typo [03:28] [03:28] " 03:19:34 < antiwire> this never gets old for some reason http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ" <-- though its outdated, you need to post a newer comiz version. [03:29] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.149.60) joined ##slackware. [03:29] o looks like zero in this font [03:29] compiz* [03:31] damn, mplayer cant load a dll [03:31] what's the S icon at the top of his X screen? (looked like the Slackware S to me) [03:31] sigh :( [03:31] skype maybe? *shrugs* [03:33] antiwire: multitouch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTeUbx_nnM4 [03:36] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-24-135.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [03:42] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [03:43] sp|c (i=sl4ck3r@vr0.core-1.chi.cryption.cn) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:43] gdog (n=gdog@71.83.255.183) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:45] gar0t0_ (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [03:46] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:47] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-16-144.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:47] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [03:49] _s_k_y_ (n=Red@cpe-70-95-187-195.hawaii.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [03:50] If I see one more blog, article or post about that 256GB flash stick I'm going to lose it [03:51] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Nick collision from services. [03:51] Nick change: gar0t0_ -> gar0t0 [03:51] antiwire: haha, what's that cost? [03:51] around 900 [03:52] wow, you going to get one or two? :P [03:52] yeah right [03:52] that would be nice though. [03:53] srecko (n=srecko@93-138-24-135.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left ##slackware. [03:53] wifi router dlink sux =/ [03:53] lagann_ (i=hex@c-24-61-204-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:54] I could back up my entire /home with that, plus all of / [03:54] gar0t0: y0 man, how's it going? [03:54] phoenix^: rsync backup + /etc /var /root and you're good :) [03:54] rsync ftw!!! [03:54] gar0t0: Pretty much all retail wifi routers suck [03:54] some just suck less [03:54] yep [03:55] the only wifi routers that don't suck are prohibitively expensive [03:55] I got a wifi router coming Tuesday, hopefully it is one that sucks less. :P [03:56] Nick change: phoenix^ -> fire|bird [03:56] phoenix^: my problems is!! on windows and IE, any sites work!! on slackware + firefox the same sites dont work [03:57] plug my dsl modem on the notebook, all sites work fine on slackware+firefox [03:57] If you have unlimited funding http://www.gateworks.com or http://www.engeniustech.com/datacom [03:57] antiwire: know anything about asus routers? any good? [03:57] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [03:57] Action: fire|bird runs [03:57] gar0t0: That almost sounds more like a setup issue, but I'm no router expert. [03:58] I gave up on caring about retail routers as soon as they started bastardizing them about 2-3 years ago [03:58] antiwire: Well, it's an asus one I have coming, the reviews I seen were good and it was within the limited budget I had for it, so, I'll wait and see. [03:58] I have one of the older wrt54gs units that is older enough to still have 8megs of flash and 32 megs of ram [03:59] older/old [03:59] fire|bird: I run wizard again! but only on ie work [03:59] gar0t0: Hmm, maybe you need to set it up manually instead of using the wizard. Just a guess though. [04:00] gar0t0: if you are having stability or consistency issues you should check the manufacturer's website for a flash update [04:00] check your version against the latest on the site [04:00] if it bricks, just take it back and say it doesn't work [04:01] antiwire: why "excluding" the wireless router all sites work ? [04:01] I don't know but if you haven't checked the manufacturer's site for errata yet you might be troubleshooting a known bug... [04:01] antiwire: I did the last update possible [04:02] firmware update [04:02] have you tried doing a full hard reset and manually configuring it? [04:02] no just unplug, a full reset [04:02] antiwire: yes [04:02] in the last week this "sites" work [04:02] have you tried using a different browser under linux? [04:03] antiwire: ff on windows have problems to access this sites eg. facebook [04:03] is flash installed? [04:03] yes [04:04] antiwire: I did the access plug my dsl modem in my notebook for test [04:04] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:04] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.64) joined ##slackware. [04:04] and it worked fine? [04:04] the problem have a name :D "Dlink DI524" [04:05] antiwire: yes [04:05] so you have a shitty wifi router... [04:05] doesn't surprise me at all [04:05] antiwire: PiterPunk gift :D [04:05] lol [04:05] why do you think he gave it to you? [04:05] lmao [04:05] hahaha [04:05] hahaha [04:06] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [04:06] antiwire: has appeared recently this problem [04:06] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-37.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:06] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [04:06] I thought it was cache problems [04:06] but.. [04:07] Don't know what to tell you. I've seen people having problems with that model though [04:07] With MAC OS many sites have problems for access too [04:08] so the only common aspect is the router [04:09] which rev is that router? [04:09] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.169) joined ##slackware. [04:09] antiwire: I saw ppl complaining about problems on google [04:10] in8 [04:10] in* [04:10] antiwire: b2 [04:10] We at least you can't feel alone [04:10] Thom1 (n=thom1@10.102.87-79.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3" [04:11] Thom1 (n=thom1@79.87.102.10) joined ##slackware. [04:11] I need to sleep!! [04:11] antiwire: thanks for your helo .0 [04:11] :) [04:12] see ya [04:12] help* [04:12] :D [04:12] antiwire: see you man! [04:12] fire|bird: se you too [04:12] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui" [04:13] Well, I'm going too. Later guys. Take care. 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[04:39] nv4Phil: no its the GNU screen escape character [04:40] ctrl+a in this case [04:40] and by default [04:40] hrm. [04:41] errm its not C-a x that freezes it. its some other key combo. C-a x actually locks it [04:41] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.ftslgt stop" [04:42] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-255-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [04:42] its C-a s, C-a q should unfreeze it [04:44] so, C-a = just "ctrl" then? [04:45] using that logic, what you're referring to works in konsole [04:45] ctrl+a [04:45] that confuses me. konsole doesn't know what ctrl+a is [04:45] on mine anyway [04:46] adeodatu1 said he uses GNU screen not just konsole [04:46] aaahhhh.... [04:48] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [04:48] ok then [04:48] i have 2 NICs on my PC, one of which is configured and in use. Now i am not able to conclude if the other NIC is working at all... how can i check this? I have connected my laptop to the 2nd NIC, bit ethtool says this: http://pastebin.com/d3a693a84 [04:50] At the other end (the laptop) it says "Link Detected: Yes" [04:50] thanks, guys [04:50] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.64) left irc: Client Quit [04:51] Could it be that its not named eth1 but something else on my PC? [04:51] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.64) joined ##slackware. [04:52] adeodatu1 (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.64) left irc: Client Quit [04:53] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.64) left irc: "leaving" [04:53] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.64) joined ##slackware. [04:54] redtricycle (n=redtricy@ppp-68-120-198-189.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [04:54] njathan: 'ifconfig -a' will show you all the interfaces you have [04:54] nvidia-settings won't let my HDTV show in its native resolution of 1280x720 [04:55] It auto to 1024x768...how do I add 1280x720? [04:55] It won't let me select that as a resolution [04:55] redtricycle: do you add the hdtv after starting x? [04:56] pprkut, it shows just the one ethernet card i am using :-( How do i check if the drivers for this card are installed? i can see the LED glow on the card, but cannot see it in ifconfig [04:56] pprkut: no, the hdtv was attached [04:56] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:58] redtricycle: hmm, are you on -current? [04:58] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) joined ##slackware. [04:58] njathan: no idea. You could check dmesg for a hint [05:06] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [05:07] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.38) joined ##slackware. [05:07] yay 1-20.c restored from a cat I did about 3 minutes before fubaring it [05:07] pprkut: 12.2 [05:08] And, I'm using S-video [05:09] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [05:09] redtricycle: hmm, no idea if it works, but I had a similar problem with a lcd-projector and solved it by forcing the resolution in xorg.conf [05:09] hi is there any reason to NOT archive everything? im planning to do that very soon, to archive literally every folder in my backup that isnt too big [05:12] is there any reason to archive anything? [05:13] other than to conserve space? probably not [05:13] yes! so to cut down file counts :x [05:13] pprkut: ya, im using Modelines, but it's hard to get it to work [05:14] hm its amazing how this file went from 10mb to 1mb compressed.... [05:15] I wonder if it's because of TV-out or my video card... [05:16] sounds like a file (or multiple files) full of spaces :) [05:16] my laptop has HDMI and could display the native resolution no problem [05:16] one of my sql databases goes from 80-something MB to 14 :) [05:16] I think this is turning into one of those cases of "deal-with-its" [05:16] where I'm never at my native resolution [05:16] *sigh* [05:17] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:17] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:18] Netu (i=JungleCa@212.90.71.82) joined ##slackware. [05:19] rignes_ (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:20] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:21] hm i think i got my computer to work 99% as i want it, to be perfectly honest, there isnt much i can do now to it to make it more personal [05:23] :D..... all thanks to you guys [05:25] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.70.32) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:25] gaz- (n=gareth@xvm-12-22.ghst.net) joined ##slackware. [05:25] what's the command to bring up that X11 program that lets you test the functionality of input devices? [05:25] I can't remember the name of it for the life of me. [05:27] xev [05:28] this avidemux 2.5.1 build is bigger than I thought [05:28] It's been modularized now so the plugins build separately than the program [05:29] redtricycle, thanks! [05:29] wow, linux-2.6.30.5 in testing/ [05:30] ph33r the ext4 [05:33] njathan (i=1000@203.115.79.169) left irc: "Leaving" [05:33] http://www.tomshardware.com/gallery/MSI-X58-Pro-E-platform,0101-219374-0-2-3-1-jpg-.html <- erg ? [05:34] missyjane: install hannah montana linux to make it more personal! :D [05:34] pprkut: I give up, at least videos look OK...jsut the desktop is funky [05:34] wow [05:36] Camarade_Tux, :O [05:37] How do I specify the default desktop environment, when I use runlevel 4? [05:37] Default seems to be kde [05:37] xwmconfig [05:37] or cannabix [05:38] Camarade_Tux: that works in runlevel 3 [05:38] is ext4 useable? [05:39] But in runlevel4, it didnt work.. [05:39] I'll try again [05:39] XFCE is already my default [05:40] maxote: sure, if you have a UPS [05:41] i've not UPS [05:41] Camarade_Tux: didn't work....KDE is still default in runlevel 4 [05:41] maxote: at least one person in here has already experienced the long commit interval biting them and losing data [05:41] Do I need to edit rc.4 and add xfce? [05:41] ...i guess I'll do that [05:42] how much data was lost? [05:42] redtricycle: well, it should load kdm [05:42] maxote: From what was reported, a lot [05:43] Is any data loss acceptable though? [05:43] Camarade_Tux: ya, it loads gdm, then kdm, then xdm.. [05:43] dont know if XFCe has one [05:43] if xdm can load XFCE [05:43] I should test it [05:43] don't think so [05:43] and anyway, it's not listed [05:43] Really? darn [05:43] but should the graphical login respect xinitrc then? [05:44] Action: Camarade_Tux is a total neewwwwwb when it comes to graphical login [05:44] hm strange, im trying to figure out while the folder/files belong ot me, i cant change the ownership [05:45] I had a slight amount of data loss before upgrading kernels (somthing about not marking inodes correctly, I only pretended to read it) .. haven't had any issues since the new kernel though [05:45] chown: changing ownership of `ride/': Operation not permitted [05:45] what are the permissions on that directory? [05:45] missyjane:users [05:45] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.25.248) joined ##slackware. [05:46] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.197.121) joined ##slackware. [05:46] ls -ald ride/ [05:46] hi, anyone is so kind in helping configuring my soundcard on Slackware 12.2 ? for some reason I have not much experience doing that [05:46] thanks [05:46] reallove: ran alsaconf ? [05:46] not working. I don't have /dev/dsp [05:47] drwxr-xr-x [05:47] reallove: which card? [05:47] from lspci , I guess this is : [05:47] 00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS962 [MuTIOL Media IO] (rev 04) [05:48] gaz- (n=gareth@xvm-12-22.ghst.net) left irc: "leaving" [05:48] reallove: how old is that? [05:48] oh man not the SiS [05:49] no idea, I got the box as my work station [05:49] antiwire: is that bad ? [05:49] :( [05:49] bah, seems pretty old http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0409.1/1127.html [05:49] I have a system with a SiS chipset as the main chipset [05:49] it's not so cool [05:50] unfortunately can't get something newer [05:51] gaz- (n=gaz@xvm-12-22.ghst.net) joined ##slackware. [05:51] reallove: have you tried what Camarade_Tux suggested? run alsaconf [05:51] yeah,I was wondering why I found on sis.com drivers for red hat kernel 2.2 [05:51] antiwire: of course [05:51] of course? [05:51] No supported PnP or PCI card found. [05:52] Would you like to probe legacy ISA sound cards/chips? [05:52] when someone asks for sound help that is the standard first question. [05:52] reallove: the problem is not that it's old, it's that nobody managed to make a working driver in 4 years [05:52] hehe, I know. I was doing that before asking here :) [05:52] Camarade_Tux: damnit [05:53] hmm theres no huge kernel in testing [05:53] this avidemux build is approaching epic [05:53] antiwire: tried avidemux last month, was disgusted [05:54] you probably tried the 2.4.4 mess [05:54] the build was aweful [05:54] possible [05:54] I'm making a build script for 2.5.1 now [05:54] Wow. [05:54] if you used the SBo script it was 2.4 something [05:54] If you put startxfce4 in rc.4, you start xfce as root [05:54] that should've been obvious... [05:55] antiwire: probably tried both [05:55] antiwire: and what did you mean with "epic"? [05:55] it's huge [05:55] takes forever and if I make a mistake... [05:56] redtricycle: knwo slim? [05:56] SLiM iirc [05:57] Ohhh... [05:57] That's probably what I'm looking for [05:57] Was goign to google "xfce login manager" next [05:58] Jeez...I wonder what Zenwalk uses [05:58] it has a login manager for Xfce [05:58] Emeau (i=1000@AMontsouris-158-1-50-47.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:58] redtricycle: you might try http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel#Setting_up_modprobe_and_kmod_support and below [05:58] gdm probably [05:58] it's for sis 966 but could work [05:58] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.21.176) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:58] s/could/_could_/ [05:59] Camarade_Tux: I think you're right. SLiM is the way to go. [05:59] I used it before [06:00] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-50-47.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:00] giuppy (n=giuppy@host18-134-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:01] Emeau: french friend! :D [06:04] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:04] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [06:05] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [06:05] and.. my computer freezes.. [06:05] could be a failing disk then [06:05] antiwire, is that to me? [06:06] yes [06:06] dont scare me, what makes you say that? [06:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [06:06] nah, you only have to put it in the oven -_- [06:06] hehe Camarade_Tux ;) [06:06] If, all of a sudden you can't change perms on files that you should be able to and your system starts locking up you could have a disk issue [06:07] antiwire, well... to be honest, the files are from another computer that once shared the same login name as mine... [06:07] I'm not saying that's the only possible reason but it is one. [06:07] and the system does lock from time to time though.. [06:07] this isnt the first time [06:07] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:07] like i said i did have problems with runnin 12.2, and cuurrent, 12.1 gave me little to no problem (just crashing) [06:07] take ownership of them as root, set chown them and re chmod them how they should be and try again [06:07] where as 12.2 crashed literally everything [06:08] krnu (n=m@c-67-182-208-26.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:08] tried outside of X? [06:09] tried what outside of x? [06:10] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:10] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:10] re [06:11] what makes your computer crash, but actually if you that's chowning, it wouldn't help except that it would maybe print a message on console [06:12] Adriaan (n=Adriaan@138-61.bbned.dsl.internl.net) joined ##slackware. [06:12] hm yeah i did it on a console [06:12] :| ugh nvm ill just let it go [06:12] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.245.19) joined ##slackware. [06:13] Humm, question, how to make firefox opening an url from crontab that i could see in current X session ? I tried DISPLAY :0 without sucess. but haven't search more [06:14] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [06:14] Emeau any errors? [06:15] emails? [06:15] well, finally the best would be to reserve a xterm for my scripts output and rigth message directly to /dev/ttyX [06:15] *write... [06:15] hm yeah quick question, how CAN you be sure if your hard drive is dying? [06:15] ff doesnt need term [06:16] Quiznos, no error, i redirect output with a 2>&1 | tee /log/file without any success [06:16] actually i'm not even sure that my scripts are executed... [06:16] dont do that; change, reexec [06:16] You start by checking SMART attributes [06:16] smartctl -a /dev/XXX [06:17] i create a /var/spool/cron/crontab/ file with my cron entries [06:17] pastebin the output [06:17] werti_russia (i=500@95-24-253-116.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [06:17] hi all [06:17] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:18] have you tried "/usr/lib/firefox-3.0.13/firefox-bin --display :0.0 " ? [06:18] adapt the display param to suit your needs [06:19] Nick change: werti_russia -> werti_rus [06:19] nop, didn't try, i'll do in a sec, thanks :) [06:24] well, my script isn't executed... [06:24] just have to figure out why [06:25] actually, scrap the /usr/lib.. shit, "firefox --display :0.0 " should do it [06:26] Emeau did you rm the nullcruft from your cron? [06:26] nullcruft ? [06:26] >/dev/null [06:26] mancha, yep, figure out that while trying ;) [06:26] this is my user personnal crontab without nullcruft yep [06:26] oops, "firefox --display=:0.0 " [06:26] ok [06:27] (ie. not like the root default one) [06:27] what about its mail? [06:27] what mail ? :)) [06:27] cron sends mail [06:27] don't forget the equals sign [06:27] figured i was right [06:27] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [06:28] don't have mails from cron actually [06:28] then you get no msgs [06:28] fix that [06:29] sir yes sir [06:29] pls dont sir me. i'm no one's master. [06:30] okay dokay [06:30] k [06:31] that's "okay dokay, sir" [06:31] :)) [06:32] added MAILTO="" and run a minute ago [06:32] waiting for my cron mail [06:32] good [06:32] run biff [06:33] biff ? [06:33] console "is there mail?" tool [06:33] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [06:33] morn TwinReverb [06:34] oh okay [06:34] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-61-68-161-247.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:34] hi, can anyone recommend a good ftp server for slackware, I am aware that its not encrypted its just for sharing files with friends etc and will be firewalled to all other addresses [06:35] vsftp is not too shabby last i checked [06:35] vsftp is probably the easiest to get going too [06:35] mrcheeseycheese (n=rhodri@host81-151-145-240.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [06:35] i use it here [06:35] sold, thanks :D [06:35] fireftp in firefox is convenient [06:35] redtricycle (n=redtricy@ppp-68-120-198-189.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:36] server... [06:36] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) left irc: "IRSSI is SEGFAULT-ing... Srsly ~ Captain Sarcasm" [06:37] why wont sbopkg respect my authoritah in using the path i setup to find its archive? [06:37] ran anotherr time [06:37] and? [06:38] perms are : 600 [06:38] in /var/spool/cron/crontab/ [06:38] allrigth ? [06:38] no mail [06:38] ok [06:38] no mail; no probs [06:39] my scripts wasn't ran [06:39] k [06:39] why? [06:40] i manually modified a value that's modified every time it's run [06:40] it's the same value i modified [06:40] k [06:40] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:40] hum [06:41] i could be wrong [06:41] you have a csript to run ff? [06:41] i modified result file owner to root... [06:41] called by cron? [06:42] i'll make a new test [06:42] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.73.64) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:42] if you have a script to run ff; use usr/bin/logger to put msg in syslog stream for you to see that ff ran [06:43] paissad-hp (n=paissad@86.66.160.108) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [06:44] mrcheeseycheese (n=rhodri@host81-151-145-240.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:45] Padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.26.146) left irc: "Leaving." [06:46] lol: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/9d7yk/best_postubuntu_distro/c0cbsec [06:49] nlhisto (n=nlhisto_@afck1.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:51] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [06:54] nlhisto (n=nlhisto_@cmz218.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[07:08] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:08] BringingSexyBack (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [07:08] Action: Camarade_Tux tries iotop [07:09] iotop is quite cute [07:10] anyone tried glib btw? [07:10] but since disk IO is usually so fast (unless your drive is from the jurassic period) you have to really watch for it [07:11] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [07:12] laptop ;) [07:12] "- Linux >= 2.6.20 with I/O accounting support (CONFIG_TASKSTATS, CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT, CONFIG_TASK_IO_ACCOUNTING): Not found" [07:12] smells like a custom kernel [07:12] Action: Camarade_Tux whistles [07:12] Camarade_Tux you have a prob? [07:13] yes, you need to have IO ACCT enabled in your colonel. if you don't then you need to compile one [07:13] Quiznos: that's when running iotop, I'll maybe recompile my kernel and enable that [07:13] ok; so "no". [07:13] right. :) [07:14] just playing [07:14] waiting for the watermelon to cool a bit [07:15] I found iotop from a comment on http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2009/08/23/how-to-find-per-process-io-statistics-on-linux/ [07:15] the one there doesn't require io acct in the kernel [07:15] natural_mind (n=vbatts@rrcs-67-78-226-122.se.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:16] poofo (i=poof@195.226.161.149) joined ##slackware. [07:16] but now my io is almost 0: only music, my /dev/root disk may even be sleeping [07:16] krnu (n=m@c-67-182-208-26.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) got netsplit. [07:16] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) got netsplit. [07:16] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) got netsplit. [07:16] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) got netsplit. [07:16] rk4n3 (n=rk4n3@71.39.203.106) got netsplit. [07:16] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) got netsplit. [07:16] C00re (n=coore@unaffiliated/c00re) got netsplit. 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[07:46] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [07:46] Action: TwinReverb has no problems with it [07:47] really? because I have this sound card and this doesn't work here [07:49] joelxr, did you try alsaconf as root? (assuming you log your user out and stop all applications that use sound) [07:49] yes alsa found my sound card but doesn't work [07:51] did you try restarting the computer after you ran alsaconf? [07:51] yes [07:51] is that user a member of the audio group? [07:52] i put some settings in /etc/modprobe.d/sound [07:52] but doesn't work too [07:53] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [07:53] i found many things about that in google [07:54] mele (n=mele@ppp-64-27.20-151.libero.it) joined ##slackware. [07:54] joelxr: "hda intel" is a name used for a lot of different card, all those said to be "HD Audio" [07:54] is that user a member of the audio group? [07:55] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [07:56] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.221.133.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [07:56] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.221.133.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:56] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) is the my sound card [07:57] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.72.250) joined ##slackware. [07:57] i'll check the group [07:59] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:00] yeah my user is a member of audio group [08:02] m0dule (n=hooh@190.166.135.58) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:02] some ideas? [08:03] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:05] this bug was reported here http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13066 [08:06] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [08:08] in others distros this happen too [08:09] because is an error in (i don't know) alsa or kernel 2.6.29 [08:13] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:14] bye slackers i come here just to see any new idea for this error [08:15] thanks [08:15] joelxr (n=joel@201009216156.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [08:15] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:15] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.72.250) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:18] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A7318A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:19] y0 [08:20] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.221.133.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [08:21] alsa and oss emulation is installed. wav files play fine in cli. will this fix my sound issues in X? 'chmod 666 /dev/dsp' [08:21] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-31-97-212.popl.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:22] t0f, just joined but you shouldnt need to chmod /dev/dsp [08:22] not to mention that it will revert once you reboot [08:22] ic [08:22] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [08:22] 0 [08:22] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.22.224) joined ##slackware. [08:22] i'm running xfce [08:22] e xfce [08:23] maybe i should chk in with that channel [08:23] thanks [08:23] whats the problem anyway? no sound in xfce? [08:23] none, not even a mixer [08:24] but works in cli? [08:24] yes [08:24] why do people suddenly all have sound problems? [08:24] thats odd [08:24] y0 Camarade_Tux [08:24] hi slackytude :) [08:24] t0f: what are you using in X? [08:24] Camarade_Tux, read sinfest? [08:24] Camarade_Tux: this is a fresh install. sound orks fine on this p3 [08:25] Camarade_Tux: to play files? [08:25] in an xterm -> play [08:26] slackytude: ^^ [08:26] t0f: "xterm -> play"? huh, what's this? [08:27] Camarade_Tux> t0f: what are you using in X? what did you mean, Camarade_Tux [08:27] he uses a term in X and the play command [08:27] play /usr/share/mysqlcc/warning.wav [08:27] slackytude: but xkcd was awesome too, mixing csi: miami, calculus and leibniz ^^ [08:27] play [08:27] zsh: command not found: play [08:27] Action: Camarade_Tux whistles [08:28] :) [08:28] t0f, whats the output of play? [08:28] in X [08:28] hold, i'll boot her up [08:29] maybe its muted in X or you start some crappy soundserver [08:30] hmmm, cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp doesn't work for me anymore ='( [08:30] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [08:32] Camarade_Tux: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp works fine in X as root [08:32] otherwise perrmission denied [08:33] yeah, for me too [08:33] i'll try 666 [08:33] it's 644 for me if I'm not mistaken [08:33] t0f, why? because it's your number? 8-) [08:34] crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2009-08-23 19:31 /dev/dsp [08:34] 640 [08:34] same here [08:34] 660? [08:34] -rw-r--r-- [08:34] Action: Camarade_Tux : never the same setup as everybody else [08:35] 660 [08:35] it's 660? ok [08:36] I guess you are a member of audio group? [08:36] ok ok, i got sound from a user account in x, but still no device in the mixer [08:36] just 'defauylt' [08:36] which mixer? [08:36] i'll try aumix [08:36] xfce4-mixer [08:36] yeah i'm a member of the audio group [08:37] i never touched anything: that's just how mine came [08:37] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [08:37] t0f, modprobe snd_mixer_oss ? [08:39] Action: Camarade_Tux only uses alsamixer [08:39] illuz1oN (n=illuz1oN@5ac880ae.bb.sky.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:39] Thom1: that may be it. i'll try [08:41] it's loaded already. i have this problem every time i do a fresh 12.2 install. when i fix it this time, it's going into a text file [08:41] 23°?! [08:41] ITS FUCKING NICE [08:42] alphad (n=quassel@41.189.39.185) joined ##slackware. [08:43] t0f paste output of this command to this channel: cat /proc/asound/cards [08:43] bah [08:43] updated to 2.5.9 of pidgin [08:43] and it just seg faults [08:43] raelakoira (i=1000@cpe-67-241-20-105.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:44] i'll try. it's a different computer [08:44] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-20-105.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:45] seen this? http://idle.slashdot.org/story/09/08/19/1634233/N00b-Boyfriend?art_pos=9 [08:45] great fun [08:45] 0 [ Live]: EMU10K1 - SB Live! [CT4871] blah blah... irq 22 [08:47] slackytude: 27C, it's fucking hot ;) [08:47] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A741F0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:47] slackytude2: 27C, it's fucking hot ;) [08:49] t0f: when did sound stop suddenly? after a hibernate or suspend or after a kernel upgrade? [08:49] this is a fresh install, and it only works in cli, atm [08:49] or as root in X [08:50] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.22.224) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:50] http://singularityhub.com/2009/08/03/the-robots-are-the-chefs-in-this-japanese-restaurant/ [08:50] t0f: run this command: groups [08:50] t0f, I thought you said you had sound in X as user [08:51] JaWiX (n=JaWiX@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [08:51] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.38) left irc: [08:51] t0f: if you added the user to audio group you need to logout and login to be added to audio group [08:51] i did, after i chmodded /dev/dsp, but after a reboot it will revert [08:51] ah ok [08:51] t0f: did you logout and login after adding to audio group? [08:52] t0f, are you in audio group? [08:52] yes, i'll try the logout-in thing [08:53] aaarnt (n=arnt@host-134.249.188.200.fns.freefone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:53] t0f: do it, do it now! ;) [08:54] t0f, you add your user in audio group without logout then login ? it can't work [08:54] why is he not in audio group in the first place [08:54] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:55] still nothing, no mixer displayed. can it have anything to do with the X error "Could not lookup internet address for XXX" buttons are 'continue anyway' and Try again' [08:56] i am indeed in the audio group [08:56] t0f: run this command again: groups [08:56] ok [08:57] ah!@ [08:57] r370 (n=gentoo@201009210034.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:57] http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=34140 [08:57] in X i am only in groups 'users' but in cli i am in audio and some others [08:57] wth? [08:57] hehe [08:57] tell me about it [08:58] i am lost [08:58] t0f: reboot [08:59] ok [08:59] t0f : did you add yourself to those groups recently? [08:59] if so, log out from X and log back in [08:59] no need to reboot :) [08:59] ananke: not that i'm aware of [08:59] too late [08:59] http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/1/23/633683410697734184-fatemowhentheworldgetsyoudowneatit.jpg [08:59] http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=34074 [08:59] and how were you checking your group membership? [08:59] it's 3 ghz...it's quick [09:00] slackytude2, seen that one before :P [09:00] err [09:00] at a term 'groups' [09:00] s/seen/ I saw [09:01] slackytude2: Weird Al Yankovic-Fat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqz1ojIQTBk [09:01] ok, in cli i am only in the 'users' group [09:01] what is it "adduser" or "addgroup" [09:01] groupmod -A [09:01] k [09:01] gnubien, This video is not available in your country due to copyright restrictions. [09:01] ohh, hold on. on slackware it would be gpasswd -A [09:02] groupmod is bad [09:02] slackytude2: oops, ok, google for Weird Al Yankovic Fat video [09:02] groupmod is good [09:02] editing /etc/groups by hand is good [09:02] :P [09:03] juice : despite what you may think, it doesn't make you a man [09:03] vigr [09:03] slackytude2: on what part of this planet do you call home? [09:03] no but I am not stooping to using a an app to modify group permissions [09:03] s/a/ [09:03] juice : right. an editor is not an app [09:03] Pig_Pen, the island of beautiful women! [09:03] nope :) [09:03] slackytude2: the vigr from the startrek movie? [09:03] Pig_Pen, I live in Germany tho [09:03] :D [09:03] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A7318A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:03] +1 for comment of the day [09:03] gnubien, vi groups = vigr [09:04] ok [09:04] yeah! [09:04] ah, good beer too [09:04] dorin_ro (n=dorin@92.84.199.15) joined ##slackware. [09:04] Pig_Pen, yes, there is always an upside, aint there [09:04] by app I mean an automated process [09:04] slackytude2: is beer served by the pint in pubs there? [09:04] juice : right. because you're only a real slackware user if you do everything by hand. [09:05] naw, they have beer steins as big as pichers [09:05] for something that takes more time to run the app to do that edit it by hand is pointless [09:05] gnubien, pint is an imperial unit [09:05] so, no [09:05] i broke something now. it says 'unknown group audio" [09:05] Pig_Pen: yep, steins look like a quart to me [09:05] ananke, no but I prefer to know how to do things no matter how simple the process might be [09:05] juice : ohh yeah. gpasswd -A user group definitely takes more time than opening up an editor, locating the group, and adding the user [09:05] slackytude2: by the liter or half liter? [09:05] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:06] gnubien, you can get a Maß of beer which is 1litre [09:06] juice : so why don't you edit the inode directly? [09:06] my uncle used to have a small collection of German beer steins and they were all as large as the pichers you see in american bars [09:06] gnubien, whut? [09:06] i'm not going to argue about it anymore I have my ways you have yours [09:06] slackytude2: know what the alcohol percent is of beer there, or the proof? [09:06] juice : except i don't impose my ways onto others [09:06] gnubien, depends on the beer [09:07] neither am I [09:07] i made a statement just like you did [09:07] slackytude2: have you ever drank an american beer? [09:07] how can i load/insert a cdrom from my terminal ? [09:07] anyone take it and use as they want [09:07] dorin_ro : eject [09:07] gnubien, yeah [09:07] v4nelle (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:08] slackytude2: american beer seem to have much less alcohol content? [09:08] eject can insert a cdrom (from terminal) ? [09:08] dorin_ro : it opens/closes the tray. maybe you should define 'insert a cdrom' for us [09:08] wow, this is broke, in /etc/group the line reads 'tof:x:17:root' [09:08] dorin_ro : do you want to mount it as a filesystem? do you want to play audio cd? [09:09] t0f : what did you do? :) [09:09] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [09:09] i am about to delete the user and start over [09:10] i dont need a mount ;just an opposite of "eject cdrom" [09:10] and group 'audio' is missing from the file [09:11] dorin_ro : eject [09:11] raelakoira (i=1000@cpe-67-241-20-105.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [09:11] k;tnx [09:11] after i installed the 3 cd's from slackware, i cp'ed '/' totally over to another partition. i think it's time for a restore [09:12] t0f : check if you have /etc/group- [09:12] yes i do [09:12] see if that may have more valid data [09:12] and audio is in that one [09:12] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [09:12] gnubien, yeah. but on the other hand, it doesnt taste as well [09:13] the one I tried anyway [09:13] "eject -T cdrom " foud it; yuuupy [09:13] /etc/group- does look like it should [09:14] should i cp /etc/group- /etc/group ? [09:14] if that is saner [09:14] if that file is saner [09:14] ir is [09:15] it is [09:15] then yeah [09:15] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:15] how much is a pint anyway? [09:15] how did i get a tof as a group? geez [09:16] pint = roughly 0.5 L ? [09:16] slackytude2: 4 pints in a quart iirc, a quart is about 1 liter [09:16] oops, maybe 2 pints in a quart [09:17] I never understand what people have against metric units. the imperial stuff is just crazy [09:17] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-170.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:18] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:18] slackytude2: pints (U.S. liq.) 2.113 per liter [09:18] t0f : we can't read minds. [09:18] Nick change: LSD`_ -> LSD` [09:18] gnubien, anyway, the usual sizes are 0.3, 0.5 or 1.0 litres [09:18] mostly you'll see 0.5 [09:18] aaarnt (n=arnt@host-134.249.188.200.fns.freefone.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [09:18] slackytude2 : it's not that they're against metric. it's just they're used to the other system [09:18] ananke, yeah, I can see that [09:19] slackytude2: U.S. congress tried to go metric but ronald raygun and gang trashed it [09:19] good old reagan [09:19] at least virtually every product is labeled with both systems [09:19] ananke, in uk or us? [09:19] us [09:19] right [09:20] dorin_ro (n=dorin@92.84.199.15) left irc: "Leaving" [09:20] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [09:20] slackytude2: scientists and most college classes in chemistry,physics use metric in US [09:20] i'll have to reformat and cp the backup over to '/'. the error now is tof@zzz:~$ groups groups: cannot find name for group ID 100 100 [09:21] and seriously folks, there is more to 'american' beer than the mass produced bud [09:21] t0f : i'd suggest figuring out what caused it, so you won't do it again [09:21] ananke, probably. there just has to be good beer, too [09:21] ananke: good advice [09:22] alphad (n=quassel@41.189.39.185) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:22] i will relax and rethink this whole thing [09:22] there are tons of good beers. it's the same as thinking that all australian beer is foster's, dutch beer only consists of heineken, etc :) [09:23] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [09:23] slackytude2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_the_United_States [09:24] gnubien, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_Germany ^-^ [09:25] slackytude2: yea, read that page already [09:25] heh [09:25] ) [09:25] slackytude2: german beer has no malt-barley in it so better quality imho [09:26] slackytude2: local beer brewerys are becoming popular in US, better quality beer there [09:26] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_France ='( [09:26] but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_Belgium kicks both germany and the us ;) [09:27] gnubien, yeah, I enjoy the small, local brewerys as well. great stuff, usually [09:28] Camarade_Tux, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_France -> fail [09:28] ='( [09:29] I'm going to drink beer to forget that [09:29] heh [09:30] the french are winos [09:30] I think I'll drink a beer in the evening as well [09:31] slackytude2: no beer here currently [09:31] vodka) [09:31] Pig_Pen: nah, we drink everything ;) [09:31] Camarade_Tux, sux [09:31] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [09:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Wine [09:31] slackytude2: came back here less than two days ago ;) [09:32] well, i have my mixer working and the audio works too as a user in X, the only thing is the 'groups' problem. i'll have to bring the p4 online to paste the problem, thanks for all the help! [09:32] you're welcome [09:32] :d [09:32] world war 3 will be fought over whats better, german beer or french wine ;p [09:34] heh [09:34] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:34] German makes some wine as well [09:34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Wine [09:34] Action: Camarade_Tux imagines millions of people drinking to decide which is better [09:34] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.70.32) joined ##slackware. [09:35] Action: slackytude lives in one of the few regions where you can produce wine [09:35] Camarade_Tux, that sounds good [09:35] slackytude: let's join the army :p [09:35] 1.2 billion bottles bottles a year [09:36] american regions are starting to get better and produce a wider range of wines. california has a huge list of wineries, washington is very decent, and virginia is starting to show on the radar [09:36] I drank some californian wine. good stuff. [09:36] not an expert in it, but I liked the taste [09:36] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.60.188) joined ##slackware. [09:36] california is the #1 wine reigon in the usa [09:37] Camarade_Tux, instead of real corpse we get alcohol corpses [09:37] mele (n=mele@ppp-64-27.20-151.libero.it) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:37] slackytude: think we can get more girls to join the army too? :D [09:38] Camarade_Tux, that be a bonus [09:39] anybody got the link to that unicode table? [09:39] nvm, got it [09:40] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:41]  [09:41] lol [09:42] how would I get 0fc10 ? [09:42] or anything higher than 0 [09:42] err 9 [09:42] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [09:44] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:46] slackytude: btw, http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/9d7yk/best_postubuntu_distro/c0cbsec ^^ [09:46] you arrogant douchebag :D [09:47] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:48] compiling webkit: http://paste.lisp.org/display/85900 >< [09:51] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:51] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:54] Quiznos, that was a /var/spool/cron permissions problem ;) [09:54] Thanks for your help :) [09:55] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:56] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:56] HuHu Camarade_T*x ! Not that arrogant :p [09:56] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.221.133.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:57] nlhisto (n=nlhisto_@cmz218.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [09:58] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:00] wobbles_ (n=huntsman@C-61-68-170-99.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:01] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-61-68-161-247.bur.connect.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:02] Athens Greece is on fire [10:03] Pig_Pen, huh? [10:03] forest fires on the edge of the city [10:03] wobbles_ (n=huntsman@C-61-68-170-99.bur.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:03] thats bad [10:05] whats up with greece. they get badly hurt every years, these last years [10:05] all thats missing is some volcanoe [10:05] Zeus is taking his revenge [10:06] yeah, but for what [10:06] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.66.104) joined ##slackware. [10:06] is there a way to compile only /usr/share/terminfo/r/rxvt-unicode from rxvt-unicode (of course) on a system without x/* (and xap/*) packages ? [10:06] letting the Parthenon crumble [10:06] Emeau wow; hours later, ok [10:06] hehe, wasn't working on it all the time ;) [10:07] but still [10:07] thougth it could interest you [10:07] Emeau what were the perms and what should they have been? [10:07] yep [10:07] Thom1: i believe x is a dependency of any app that requires it so rxvt wont build without it [10:08] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:08] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:08] Pig_Pen, ok, I think too [10:08] Pig_Pen how can x/ xap/ be a dep on terminfo/*? [10:08] that has to be the dumbest dep i've ever heard of. [10:09] erminfo is friggen data [10:09] was 750 work with 755 [10:09] owner of /var/spool/cron was root:root [10:09] Emeau more permissive? are you sure? [10:09] Quiznos, but can you compile rxvt-unicode terminfo without x/ ? [10:09] you got me there Quiznos, thats why i have not built my own distro [10:10] yep, it currently works and it didn't ;) [10:10] Thom1 regardless of deps, i would. [10:10] and any dep that got in the way would be wiped out with extreme prejudice. [10:10] terminfo is not dependent ON x being prsent or not. [10:10] it is separate data regarding tty and terminals. [10:11] on slack, Pat provides the whole db; if you want to wipe out dirs you never use that's fine. [10:11] Quiznos, ok cool, but do you know a way to compile only this file without compile all rxvt-unicode ? [10:11] Thom1 you have the plaintext rxvt terminfo file? [10:12] no, it's a binary file [10:12] leave it alone then, it's ready to use. [10:12] goes into /usr/share/terminfo/r [10:12] great, i've now a functionnal script to monitor changes on web files displaying me current changes and backing up previous version [10:13] Emeau ok [10:13] Quiznos, do you think this binary is the same for i486 and x86_64 ? [10:14] dno; i would think that terminfo is not dep on cpu cellsize [10:14] cant see how it would be [10:14] ok ok [10:14] what are you installing that has this crap in it? [10:14] thank you Quiznos and Pig_Pen [10:14] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [10:15] Thom1 my last? [10:15] prev line? [10:15] Quiznos, I have rxvt-unicode on my desktop but not on my server, and I need this terminfo file to ssh correctly (TERM variable) [10:15] ty and yvw. [10:16] Thom1 never let a prob stand in the way of what you know is the right thing. [10:16] sorry if I don't understand everything, my english is not very well [10:17] I think I understand :) [10:17] ok [10:17] ) [10:17] rus)) [10:17] what ?) [10:17] ) [10:17] werti_rus to me? [10:17] lee___ (n=_lee__@ip70-191-236-69.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:17] no , not you) [10:17] k [10:18] and you rus ?) [10:18] "error whileloading shared libraries: libaprutil-1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: Nosuch file or directory" fresh 12.2 install, what did I miss? [10:19] exit [10:19] find with util locate needlib [10:19] and create symlink [10:19] lee___ : you need to install the 'apr' package from l/ [10:19] lee___: did you install *all* the packages? [10:20] ananke: or apr-utils :) [10:20] Camarade_Tux : good point, didn't even see that one [10:20] ^^ [10:20] apparently not .. selected the desired package, no x, then ran non-prompt [10:21] lee___: run ldconfig as root [10:22] doesn't launch anything, nor result in errors. [10:24] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:24] lee___ : that's normal and expected [10:24] lee___: run what was giving the error now [10:25] done [10:25] same error, take it I'm going to look at a log? [10:26] lee___ : is apr-utils package installed? [10:26] if so, run 'ldconfig -p | grep aprutil' [10:26] how could I confirm? [10:26] thought it was .. but unsure now [10:26] check in /var/log/packages [10:26] or pkgtolls [10:26] find /var/log/packages -iname "*apr*" [10:27] pkgtool [10:27] btw, pkgtool seems buggy for me when I try to list packages [10:27] apparently not .. [10:28] ok, selected "view" in pkgtool [10:28] Camarade_Tux, buggy, how? [10:28] still wating for output [10:28] and disk going mad [10:29] no apr-utils package shown in pkgtool, I wonder which package group I didn't included .. [10:29] if you didn't include l... ^^ [10:29] oh, it's apr-util, not apr-utils [10:30] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [10:31] no sign of apr anything in the pkgtool [10:31] should I just re-run setup? [10:32] nah [10:33] slackpkg install apr-util [10:33] or just a installpkg * in /l [10:35] slackytude: still running [10:35] Camarade_Tux, eh [10:36] stopped it [10:38] strace [10:38] you on utf8? [10:38] yeah [10:38] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:39] might be the sed bug then [10:39] ask urchlay about it [10:39] getting lots of [10:39] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.62.243) joined ##slackware. [10:39] read(3, "\nError: Unknown option Unknown.\nU"..., 128) = 62 [10:39] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:39] sed, grep, everything seems to fail on utf8 :P [10:39] aye [10:39] still ""error whileloading shared libraries: libaprutil-1.so.0: ... " [10:40] after installing apr-util [10:40] van (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:40] van (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:40] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: "leaving" [10:40] and what are the "..."? [10:41] the entire line reads: ""error whileloading shared libraries: libaprutil-1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: Nosuch file or directory" [10:41] result from apachectl [10:42] slackytude: works with LANG=en_US LC_TYPE=en_US sudo pkgtool [10:42] lee___: run ldconfig, just in case [10:42] Camarade_Tux, aye [10:42] that file is located in /usr/lib/ [10:42] run ldconfig again? [10:42] strace and gvimdiff are my friends :) [10:43] ldconfig, same error afterwards. [10:44] the error is a result of apache trying to load that lib, correct? If so, perhaps the path is wrong in httpd.conf? [10:44] what do you run for that to happen ? [10:45] No. Again, run this command: ls /var/log/packages/apr* [10:46] Camarade_Tux i've not had sed|grep probs; what ver of those tools? [10:46] results: /var/log/packages/apr-util-1.3.9-i486-1_slack12.2 [10:46] Quiznos: slackware64-current, 'locale' reports almost everything as en_US.UTF-8 [10:47] lee___: install the "apr" package too [10:47] yes yes but the tool versions; that's what matters [10:47] and the glibc version you have too [10:47] glibc 2.9 [10:47] k [10:48] and which tools are you referring too? [10:48] sed, grep [10:48] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A741F0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:48] Where does slack12.2 suffix come from? [10:48] Camarade_Tux: which is actually more 2.10 [10:48] gm152 pkg name [10:48] Quiznos, it was very easy to create the terminfo bin, only "tic rxvt-unicode.terminfo" [10:48] that did it rg3, thanks camarade [10:48] and rg3 [10:48] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [10:48] Thom1 exactly. [10:48] lee___, what did it? [10:49] Quiznos, I just made my own SB :D [10:49] kool! [10:49] yskapell (n=panthro@195.134.89.99) left irc: "leaving" [10:49] dorin_ro (n=dorin@89.123.133.131) joined ##slackware. [10:49] Thom1 give it to rworkman [10:49] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:49] installing apr in addition to apr-util .. I wonder which package group I didn't include [10:49] lee___ ap/ i think [10:49] quasar: But I don't think Pat uses that nomenclature to brand his packages. [10:49] or n/ [10:49] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A741F0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:49] Quiznos, my SBs are made from slackware-fr.org template [10:50] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [10:50] pprkut: btw, was it you who had the synaptics touchpad problem? [10:50] Thom1 ok [10:50] gm152: he does [10:50] Camarade_Tux: yep [10:50] Camarade_Tux prob getting the versions? [10:50] Thom1: erm, why? [10:50] I had a minor issue after upgrading to -current rc2, but it seems to work now [10:50] (synaptics) [10:50] pprkut: gone for me, and you? [10:50] sed 4.1.5 [10:50] pprkut, because I prefer [10:50] grep 2.5.4 [10:51] Camarade_Tux ok ty. same sed here, 2.5 grep [10:51] alisonken1noc: did you touchpad sometimes just didn't work? [10:51] Camarade_Tux: no issues at all since I added the boot param [10:51] Thom1: ok :) [10:51] Camarade_Tux: after I go the right settings in xorg.conf, it works fine [10:51] still a little touchy, but working on the parameters for it [10:52] alisonken1noc: probably not oyr problem then, it wasn't found by the kernel for us [10:52] zfs for linux [10:52] I thought synaptics was an xorg module, not a kernel module? [10:53] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:53] alisonken1noc: yeah but the hardware was detected at all [10:53] interesting [10:53] huge kernel or generic kernel? [10:53] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:54] huge own [10:54] ah [10:54] doesn't matter [10:56] fredobuntu (n=ubuntu@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:57] shoot him down! 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[11:19] slackytude: pkgtool [11:19] I just don't know [11:19] could be dialog [11:19] but I should pkgtool should LANG=en_US [11:20] ask urchlay [11:20] Camarade_Tux, or with LANG=fr_FR for french people ? [11:21] I don't know enough encoding to know if it would work everywhere but right now it doesn't [11:21] hmmm, maybe [11:22] if the encoding is "something.UTF-8", change it to "something" for pkgtool? [11:23] i hope you tell Pat these things re locale [11:23] he knows [11:23] k [11:23] when 13.0 will be out, i think i reinstall my pc and keep default LANG for root [11:24] Quiznos, but there wasnt a solution for it, afaik [11:24] why put htdocs in the var partition? [11:24] imho the best thing to do right now is to change it or display a message [11:24] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [11:25] like "not running until you fuckin' change your encoding dickhead" :) [11:25] lee___, always been there [11:25] lee___, there is also /srv [11:25] that's what I figured slackytude .. doesn't seem like constantly changing files to me, but what do I know .. [11:26] slackytude k [11:27] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "flw negada" [11:29] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:31] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:31] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [11:34] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.62.243) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:35] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [11:36] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.12.209) joined ##slackware. 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[11:46] Quiznos, O_o [11:46] http://devfiles.myopera.com/articles/650/step_4_enemies.htm [11:48] nice [11:48] cant shoot [11:49] Action: Camarade_Tux starts GtkLauncher [11:51] from what i get about javascript, it's an interesting language; especially the conversion from `int' to `Int' and similiarly for other data types [11:51] jvascript is weird [11:51] too bad it's not available as a separate lang like perl|pyth|lua|etc [11:51] or i havent seen it as such [11:51] you know, as a #!able language [11:54] http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0807/sarcasm-demotivational-poster-1216350813.gif ^^ [11:54] Quiznos, xulrunner can be used to do javascript, afaik [11:55] slackytude: now, compile xulrunner :) [11:55] I'll have two birthday presents for you by the time you come back [11:55] oh, I mean xulrunner only [11:56] -_- [11:57] duno xul* [11:57] v4nelle (n=van@78-115-11.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:57] and wenn you'll see the number of errors, you'll kill every ff fanboy you meet [11:57] Action: Camarade_Tux has to polish his german [11:58] maybe german your polish as well [11:58] no, I did that last night -_- [11:59] "... .js is the GeorgeReeves of programming langauges" !!! lol [11:59] for typecasting [11:59] Reeves was an actor [12:00] if you dont know who, then you're too damn young to be here :) [12:01] lol, first time I see this style of C [12:01] int isWhiteSpace(c) [12:01] int c; [12:01] { return ((c>=0 && c<=255) && whitespace[c]); } [12:02] that will retur false [12:02] no, wait [12:02] no, before judging it, it's reinvention. [12:02] lol, yeah [12:02] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:02] return isascii(c) && iswhite(c) [12:02] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-208.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:03] which means itll never work for utf [12:03] sexp-parsing [12:03] that's K&R coding style. [12:03] heh [12:03] 1st ed. [12:04] well; i did laundry today; all my whites are now green. i'm furious [12:04] Quiznos: you need a woman for that! [12:04] dont have one yet [12:04] Quiznos: you should separate the whites from the colors before washing [12:05] all my things but one are color fast. [12:05] i buy them that way purposely [12:05] that is not always as advertized [12:05] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [12:05] this is the first failure i've had [12:05] ever [12:06] i dont buy dry-cleanable clothes [12:06] i dont like polyesther [12:06] nowadays with the HUGE about of cheap goods imported from around the world there is no guarentee of quality anymore [12:06] yea [12:07] i hate all artificial materials in clothing too, i only like cotton & wool myself, but i only wear wool in the winter [12:08] cotton: so you can clean your glasses anywhere :P [12:09] i love wool sweaters; the kind that are worn in Ireland and Scotland. cant wear em in Florida, even in "winter"; damn, i miss New York. [12:10] SkyNet_ONE (n=Ederson@189-46-87-111.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:10] the big sweaters; thick! [12:10] no you don't [12:10] kitche are you in Nevada? [12:10] I m in New york [12:10] ok; your nick is derivitive of someone I know [12:10] where in n.y.? [12:10] http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/9d7yk/best_postubuntu_distro/c0cbshb <- the answer I received ^^ [12:11] i'm a lost ny'er L) [12:11] SkyNet_ONE (n=Ederson@189-46-87-111.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [12:11] that guy must really have been traumatized ^^ [12:11] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [12:11] Buffalo area [12:11] ty [12:12] kitche: you live where you get that lake effect snow every winter [12:12] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [12:12] i'd kill for lake efect snow :) [12:12] i'm not enjoying florida [12:13] i am ready for some cooler weather, getting tired of summer [12:13] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:13] same here [12:13] Pig_Pen: sort of not really Rochester gets more lake effect snow then buffalo does [12:13] 1mon more [12:13] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [12:13] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] fuck, I hate that shit [12:16] what stuff? [12:16] gobject-introspection [12:17] lol ok [12:17] i think i have to find a place to move to [12:17] it gives you detailled api of glib-based libraries which is great to write bindings [12:17] i'm too damn far from commerce [12:17] but it's completely unreliable: during build time and during run time too [12:17] enable stuff and recompile [12:17] nacho__ (n=nacho@190.51.23.183) joined ##slackware. [12:18] or dump it [12:18] if you want to pull down a package like a .rpm, what format does slackware support? [12:18] mak? [12:18] any; use alien converter [12:18] [joke[ [12:18] rpm2tgz? [12:18] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [12:18] we're in too serious a mood for [jk] [12:18] :) [12:18] i think we're all in a pissy mood atm :) [12:18] yeah :D [12:19] me too .. just got my ass handed to me in COD. [12:19] well; let's commisserate then :_ [12:19] COD? [12:19] people play COD? [12:19] which one? [12:19] MW [12:19] define cod [12:19] Call of Duty [12:19] game or job? [12:19] game. [12:19] k [12:19] oh [12:20] i'm not a gamer at all [12:20] I might buy COD: MW2 for my ps3 [12:20] slackytude lol [12:20] MW2 looks a tad sick. [12:20] crap on tv; i think i'll hulu [12:20] your nick is making me hungry [12:20] how pavlovian of you. [12:21] I'm a simple guy. [12:21] toasty sandwishs [12:21] yeah I was watching hulu a bit ago but can't have my VM up and hulu at the same time .... [12:21] lee lol [12:21] kitche bummier [12:21] lee___ classicaly simple answer; i like! [12:21] JungleC4t (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:21] my line is, "i'm easy to pls" [12:22] gcc = slow at compiling ..... [12:22] killall mplayer then [12:22] now if I could concentrate .. damn a.d.d. [12:22] too much swappage [12:22] lol [12:23] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.60.188) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:27] Action: slackytude would like to watch hulu as well [12:27] the tube has B5 also [12:28] the only prob i have is that i cant lay on sofa and watch [12:28] gotta be at desk [12:28] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:29] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:30] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [12:30] officergris (n=officerg@tark-b-131.resnet.purdue.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:30] good day [12:31] officergris whatcha studying there? [12:31] biochemistry [12:31] what year? [12:31] I could've gone CS, but I like computers too much [12:31] second year, junior by credits [12:31] heh [12:31] kool [12:31] where did you/do you go to school? [12:31] i'll be going back @oru.edu, Tulsa. [12:32] oh nice [12:32] your major? [12:32] dno when yet but soon as He says Go. [12:32] duno yet [12:32] ORU is a lib.arts uni [12:32] oh alright [12:33] i've already learned my interests; last decade spent studying all that interests me [12:33] what's that/ [12:33] linXea (n=e@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:33] law, history, science, bible, physiology, health [12:34] Nick change: nacho__ -> nachox [12:34] math, computers, [12:34] jack of knowledge, master of none. [12:36] heheh, yeah [12:36] I like to call that type a general specialist [12:36] yep [12:37] i scifi book i once read featured a char of that description [12:37] s/i/a/ [12:37] Voyage of the Space Beagle by A.E. Van Vogt? [12:37] op [12:37] nop [12:37] oh :\ [12:37] were the generalist solves a problem the specialists cant solve [12:37] ? [12:37] or introduce to situ to get fresh look [12:37] mhmm [12:37] and it wasn't Van Vogt's book? [12:37] an "idea man" which i am [12:37] hmm, so has anyone gotten skype working on slackware64? i don't see a 64-bit version :( [12:38] heh, I know a perry rhodan story like that [12:38] i dont think it was [12:38] plot: [12:38] that's rather strange, because the one I read sounds exactly like that [12:38] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Easy_Cheese_varieties.jpg hmmm, false cheese :) [12:38] Camarade_Tux, BACON [12:38] french goat cheese goatse.fr [12:38] Camarade_Tux, that looks delicious [12:38] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] distant planet with multitude of what looked like water towers, very tall. thought to be atmospheric water condensation units bc planet was dry [12:39] Camarade_Tux, french goat cheese http://goatse.fr [12:39] slackytude: you love that website, right? :D [12:39] i dont recall author's name [12:39] Camarade_Tux, I love to send people there ^-^ [12:39] that very well could be the one...or someone that was sharing the idea [12:40] plot (cont) so this general idear guy is brought in on project bc the regulars in project cant figer it out. [12:40] werti_rus (i=500@95-24-253-116.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [12:40] during his first drive-around on planet, he proposes condenser units and the host is surprised and concurs that of his project team [12:40] hmm...dunno [12:40] sounds interesting though [12:41] Action: slackytude ponders [12:41] obv.ly it had a lasting efect on me :) [12:41] Action: slackytude deceides [12:41] time for beer [12:41] beeeer! =( [12:41] there was one man who knew everything there was to know. [12:41] Action: slackytude dcc's a beer to Camarade_Tux [12:41] heheh, yeh [12:41] i forget his name but he lived during the 15th century. [12:41] edman007: yeah, bacon and eggs, and cheese :) [12:41] Quiznos, da vinci ? [12:42] maybe, i duno [12:42] Pascal? [12:42] lol [12:42] or one of the other men of that time [12:42] no idea when he lived though [12:42] officergris: whipped cream and girls looks better :D [12:42] quite true. [12:42] pascal was latter, afaik [12:42] 19th or 19th [12:42] 18th [12:42] nope [12:42] maybe. could always wiki it, but I'm too lazy [12:42] 15th [12:43] one of them studied the bible in hebrew and greek; he learned of the embedded equidistant code of the hebrew text. [12:43] edman007: Skype - http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [12:43] (June 19, 1623, in Clermont-Ferrand, France  August 19, 1662, in Paris) [12:43] well for a non-israelite [12:43] he studied it for ten years [12:43] allend, who said i want to install 32-bit libs, i like 64-bit :D [12:44] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-208.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:44] then there's the scifi book _Starburst_ of which I first learned about (oh damn forgot his name) [12:44] bah, 17th, sorry >< [12:44] ^-^ [12:44] he proved that bertrand russell was wrong in one of his proposals in his mathematics thome [12:44] i think i'm just not going to use skype until they can release a 64-bit version [12:45] Quiznos, lesser known mathematicans for $500 [12:45] lol [12:45] edman007: no, that's defeat! code your own one! [12:45] edman007, you could always run a 32 bit VM and use skype in that? [12:45] kind of a hack, but it would 'work' [12:45] his name begins with a german G [12:46] oh, I think I know who you're talking about, but I can't remember it either. agh! [12:46] Goedel? [12:46] but he was later [12:46] lemme chk that [12:46] far later [12:46] is that the Goedel from the Fat GEB math book? [12:46] Camarade_Tux, officergris its not defeat, its a boycott, i hate skype anyways [12:47] goedel, escher, bach [12:47] Quiznos, GEB? [12:47] yea it is [12:47] it's a book with carved wooden blocks on the cover [12:47] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Gödel [12:47] yea Kurt [12:47] so Kurt developed this math language and formula that is really simple [12:47] Goedel is 19th-20th [12:48] that was usd in the scifi book _Starburst_ that I read [12:48] didnt you talk about a 15th century guy [12:48] yea [12:48] why? [12:48] not goedel then [12:48] changed theme :) [12:48] bah [12:48] talking about another book :) [12:48] lol [12:48] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [12:48] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-220-71-204.lnse2.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [12:48] so the author of the scifi book introduced Kurt's math into the story and i got it. [12:48] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:50] don't you love that [12:50] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [12:50] Action: slackytude wants samba4 and zfs [12:50] given n symbols of a language; given a=index position of a symbol in a stream; a^n is a power-raised value that uniquely represents the symbol in a stream of any length [12:51] heh... [12:51] by using ascii values for n, and position 1..infinity, one can encode any seq of chars each with a uniquely and huge numbers that can individually be decoded. [12:51] that is quite an interesting conjecture [12:51] at least. [12:52] see, a real education can come from reading scifi :) [12:52] haha [12:52] those are goedel numbers,no? [12:52] oh and bertrand russell was not only wrong on multiple points in his tome; he was insane. [12:52] yes they are slackytude [12:52] Action: slackytude nods [12:52] russell was an insane atheist. [12:53] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:53] as Shakespear wrotem "a rose by any other name is still a rose" [12:53] but russell said that a name can be separated from its object [12:53] a = 2, n = 4 and a = 4, n =2 would yield the same result [12:54] which is insane; aliases can be added and removed but its name indicates its `nature, characteristics and authority'. if you remove a name from its object, ... how can that be? [12:54] Camarade_Tux power series [12:55] it's simple in calculus symbols; cant do that in console [12:56] s/power series/series entieres/ :D [12:56] i figered this russell thing from knowing certain bible verses [12:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gödel_number [12:56] yea, that's him [12:57] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:57] but power series are for "continuous" sets afaik [12:57] the index position is sequential and continuous for all symbols in a stream (or vector as we think of it) [12:58] given a string, each letter -> n, its index ->p]osition; p^n [12:58] I can't get my icecream build script to stop making doinst.sh delete /usr/bin/gcc and replace it with a symlink... [12:58] or think of n as v]alue. [12:58] i don't see where taht's even coming from [12:58] so p^v [12:59] Quiznos: ok, I lack some definitions [12:59] ok forget the subject of the thread [12:59] ok lemme review those wiki pages; it's been a while [13:00] alienov (n=alienov@75.97.116.136) joined ##slackware. [13:00] Camarade_Tux you good with simple higher math? [13:01] Quiznos: yeah but I sometimes need to check the french translation ;) [13:02] ok; i missed two things above in G numbers [13:02] n, the base number is a sequential prime, P. [13:02] the power is the value (think ascii value at position corresponding to current base-power) [13:03] so char[1] = 1, c[2] = 2; c[3] = 3, 5,7,9,11, 13, etc [13:03] the prime nums idicate the position in the vector of the value to be encoded [13:03] ok? [13:04] prime, ok :P [13:04] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:04] so, slackware is nice [13:04] no? [13:04] yeah totally [13:04] ok b for base, the value of which is a prime number. [13:04] Quiznos: to found a counter-example I use non-primes on purpose ;p [13:04] lol [13:04] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:04] dont confuss me! [13:05] hiptobecubic, did you solve the udev problem? [13:05] now, the power to raise B by is the value of the char at the current position indicated by the prime number. [13:05] slackytude, i did thanks [13:05] ok? [13:05] hiptobecubic, what was it? [13:05] in C, like this: [13:05] werti_rus (i=500@95-24-253-42.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:06] slackytude, now i have a new problem. I have a build script for icecream but it makes a doinst.sh which deletes my gcc g++ cc and c++ binaries out of /usr/bin. I can't see why. [13:06] hiptobecubic: nice :) [13:06] hiptobecubic, if you upload your scripts I can take a look [13:06] char s[] (string), int B (base, a prime), int P (a value to raise B by) [13:06] slackytude, i'm not sure. I started over from scratch, reading about udev rules and it started working [13:06] sure guys, just a second [13:06] hiptobecubic, heh [13:07] hiptobecubic, fun [13:07] dorin_ro (n=dorin@89.123.133.131) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:07] void *G (the resulting Goedel number) [13:07] 42! [13:08] http://gist.github.com/173348 [13:08] while( *s) G *= pow( prime[indexof(*s)], s[n++]); s++; [13:09] G grows VERY fast to really HUGE numbers [13:09] hiptobecubic, doesnt load [13:09] a 64bit string isnt enuf [13:09] s/string/var [13:10] hmm maybe github is having some problems... http://dpaste.com/84304/ [13:10] werti_rus (i=500@95-24-253-42.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [13:10] lol, I was thinking "the g* [gtk/gnome/...] guys really don't know how to develop, they break everything everyday" [13:10] brb [13:10] then I realized they had been doing that for years now [13:10] hiptobecubic, what is icecream anyway [13:11] slackytude, a better distcc [13:11] ah, right [13:11] Camarade_Tux, breaking everything? [13:13] hiptobecubic: well, mostly breaking builds [13:13] and they do *faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar* too many releases [13:13] hiptobecubic, you have a doinstll.sh too? [13:13] libsoup 2.27.91 >< [13:13] dive, yeah hold on. [13:13] "releases early, release often" has become "release too early, release too often" [13:13] http://dpaste.com/84306/ [13:14] Action: pprkut sees his script pasted ;) [13:15] hiptobecubic, can't see anything in either of those what would cause that. Perhaps in the compile of the source itself it doing it? [13:15] doesn't delete any binaries [13:15] the profile.d scripts alter $PATH to look for binaries in /opt/icecream/bin first, which has gcc and precedes /usr/bin [13:15] check the makefile and configure options [13:16] pprkut, no it does. check the doinst.sh AFTER you run the slackbuild [13:16] pprkut, in /tmp/SBo/package-icecream [13:17] hiptobecubic: that's in /opt/icecream/bin, because those are symlinks [13:17]  _  [13:17] pprkut, i'll paste it. hold on [13:17] Here, this is the doinst.sh that it makes. http://dpaste.com/84307/ [13:18] it is clearly removing /usr/bin/gcc and friends [13:19] hiptobecubic: I don't have that in my package :/ [13:20] pprkut, no you don't. It is added to the end of doinst.sh sometime during the build [13:20] hiptobecubic: yeah, I don't have that in my compiled .tgz package [13:20] hiptobecubic, check the configure options and Makefil [13:20] if you run the slackbuild, doinst.sh will look like that at the end. [13:21] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:21] pprkut, so when you run this, you don't see that? Where is it coming from here then i wonder.. [13:21] checking makefile.... [13:22] ViN86 (n=ViN86@cpe-72-228-59-183.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:22] SlackWeird (n=ecnrdoi@unaffiliated/slackwared) joined ##slackware. [13:22] hey!!!!!!!!! p u n k! [13:23] Action: ViN86 looks around for someone else to respond... [13:23] Are you talkin to me? [13:25] hiptobecubic: btw, I don't think that's the script I have on github [13:26] pprkut, i removed the profile.d scripts [13:26] alice_c (i=alice@78.105.168.173) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [13:27] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:27] hiptobecubic: changing executability would have been enough... [13:29] I just removed the doinst.sh line from the slackbuild completely. It still makes one and all it has in it are the lines deleting g++/gcc and making symlinks. it's automatically generated somehow.. [13:29] alice_ (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:30] hiptobecubic: generate a build log and have a closer look [13:30] pprkut, i suppose so. I've been using OldFogie's way of doing distcc/ccache so i just stuck icecream into that. [13:30] pprkut, how does one do that? [13:30] tee [13:30] speaking of oldfogie... [13:31] lastlog oldfogie [13:31] oops [13:31] anyone with experience installing JDK? [13:32] LongeFlucht: all you need is installpkg ;) [13:32] I just tried to install the .rpm.bin and got an error "/bin/sh is needed by sun-javadb-core-10.4.2-1.1.i386" [13:32] uhm... [13:32] I assume that "rpm2targz" would spit out the same [13:32] why not using the slackware package in /extra? [13:33] gooooood afternoon e'erybody [13:34] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:34] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:34] pprkut: because I didn't look there like a jackass. I checked slackbuilds and saw nothing then got giddy and dumb [13:34] LongeFlucht, jdk is included in slackware. It's on the DVD or the web packages browser. [13:34] aha [13:35] LongeFlucht: be sure to uninstall the jre before you install jdk [13:35] It looks like one of the makefiles does it. [13:35] that sucks. [13:35] hiptobecubic: but then I would have it as well.... [13:35] hiptobecubic, ./configure --help | less and see if it's mentioned [13:36] did you try 0.9.4? [13:36] dpaste said it was too long.... http://pastebin.ca/1540572 [13:37] lines 503+ [13:38] dive & pprkut: thanks...just uninstalled jre [13:38] and downloading jdk now [13:38] # [13:38] Would you like to make this stuff the install script for this package [13:38] # [13:38] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [13:38] and remove the symbolic links ([y]es, [n]o)? y [13:38] hmm... etc-13.0-x86_64-2.txz [13:39] hiptobecubic, sounds like it should be a configure options since it's asking [13:39] try 'echo n | ./configure' [13:39] dive: that's makepkg asking [13:39] oh [13:40] I though that was configure output [13:41] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:41] Action: dive should read more often [13:41] Bonix (n=Bonix@189-90-196-170.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [13:41] hiptobecubic: I have it [13:41] pprkut, have what? [13:41] 0.9.4? [13:41] hiptobecubic: I simply remove those links in the SlackBuild [13:42] don't know it that version is on github yet though [13:42] pprkut, ah ok. maybe it is and i deleted it accidentally when i was working with it [13:42] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:42] i'll look at it in a bit. i'm off for now [13:43] hmm, it is [13:44] hiptobecubic: for some reason you got an older version of the SlackBuild [13:46] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [13:47] re; my two neighbors are really good to me. one just offered to take me food shopping in a few days. [13:47] that's a great help. [13:48] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:48] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [13:49] hi test [13:50] Hi hiptobecubic, dive, and Quiznos! Hi everyone else! [13:50] hihi [13:50] hi [13:51] brb into gooy [13:51] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:51] hihi [13:51] samuelig (n=samuelig@62.pool85-57-151.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:51] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:57] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:58] damn youtube stream is seriously jumpy [13:59] well that sixd [13:59] suxd [13:59] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:59] alice_ (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:00] PurpleSmurf, pfft, try using gnash, so hard to get the jumpyness to go away :( [14:00] edman007: i can chalk it up to people in my isp-lan being home and also surfing. [14:00] isp-lan-segment [14:01] lame [14:01] yea; ptp conenction is better [14:01] PurpleSmurf, knock them off the net with ettercap [14:01] heh; i never had a black hat :) [14:02] i learn about it, but i could never use that nkowledge for evil [14:02] a tiny RST packet never hurt anyone [14:02] lol [14:02] yea but it can be tracked [14:02] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) left irc: ""Remember that death is not the end but only a transition." -- Dream Theater, song "Fatal Tragedy"." [14:03] I have both eclipse and jdk installed, yet receive the error message that "No Java vm was found after searching the following locations /opt/eclipse/jre/bin/java [14:04] java in your current PATH [14:04] anyone old enug here to remember the 70s 7-up commercial with the carribean man? [14:04] enug/enuf [14:04] usr/lib/java/bin/java [14:04] clearly I left something out during install, now I'm getting the same "error whileloading sharedlibraries: libcap.so.2 .." no such bla bla [14:04] but from command line I run eclipse -vm /usr/lib/jdk1.6.0_11/jre/javaws/javaws [14:04] install it if not existing [14:05] using slackpkg ? [14:05] sure [14:05] krnu (n=m@c-67-182-208-26.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:05] 1st time I tried it just used cap .. nothing, works better when you use the libcap keyword [14:06] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [14:06] what would happen if i looked at the moose's led directly? [14:06]  _  [14:06] omg i see eyes there in gooey; look like owl's eyes [14:06] rofl [14:07] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) joined ##slackware. [14:07] / [14:07] yin-yang [14:07] off-set positionally [14:07] [14:07] the center line is sposed to be vertical [14:07] | [14:08] wait need bigger font [14:08]  [14:08] PurpleSmurf, http://unicodesnowmanforyou.com/ [14:08] aaarnt (n=arnt@host-134.249.188.200.fns.freefone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:08] nsp (n=nsp@66.182.243.1) joined ##slackware. [14:09] slackytude: is there a way that I can change the path that eclipse looks to because I can start from CL, but not from icon [14:09] should be an option somewhere in eclipse [14:10] or should I just create a link from the path mentioned in the error to usr/lib/java/bin/java [14:10] nope [14:10] edman007: lol; tyvm :) [14:10] I'm trying to compile nvidia driver and it's complaining that there may be an openGL or third party driver installed and is not able to access libGL.so [14:10] nsp: run ldd on it [14:10] I have, in fact, installed intel driver [14:10] nsp: compiling? [14:10] nsp, so say ok, nvidia says that because it replaces libGL.so anyways [14:11] using nvidia's script. [14:11] pprkut, there is a wrapper for the blob that gets compiled [14:11] to compile [14:11] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:11] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:11] edman007: ah, yeah. I don't consider this the driver, that's why :) [14:11] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:12] I hit ok and it says "Error: Install has failed....." [14:12] so i'm running radeonhd and i got xv working with 100% open source stuff [14:13] i could apparently play neverputt if i upgraded mesa and my kernel to unstable [14:13] nsp, what kernel are you using? [14:13] pastebin.com/f3cc04d29 [14:14] nvidia-error-log [14:14] 2.6.27-7-smp [14:14] nsp, you should not have a libGL in /usr/local/lib ... [14:14] 2.6.27.7-smp [14:15] where did it come from? you could just remove it and try reinstalling the nvidia driver [14:15] because that is not part of slack [14:15] pprkut, ping [14:15] hiptobecubic: pong [14:16] libGL.so [14:16] I have it ^^^ [14:16] and libGL.so.1 [14:16] pprkut, i just forked your slackbuild-beta repo and i'm looking for where you remove the symlinks? [14:16] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [14:16] Anthony_ (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:16] pprkut, in icecream, of course [14:16] yea, but it looks like nvidia is just compling because you have it in a funny location, remove the copy in /usr/local/lib [14:17] and .2 [14:17] etc [14:17] it should not be there [14:17] ogridd (n=ndambuki@196.207.29.42) joined ##slackware. [14:17] so just remove all of them? [14:17] jobo (n=jobo@212.49.88.34) joined ##slackware. [14:17] am in [14:17] Anthony_ (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Client Quit [14:17] nsp, probably better to back it up, make sure there is a libGL.so in /usr/lib when you are done [14:17] Action: nix_chix0r runs over edman007 in a giant robotic chicken [14:17] hiptobecubic: in the for loop [14:17] ow [14:17] sema jobo [14:17] poa [14:18] nick [14:18] Action: edman007 kicks nix_chix0r [14:18] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [14:18] uftda [14:18] ohhhhhhh i see it. That's removing symlinks, not removing the original. the original has already been killed at the point. yes? [14:18] pprkut, but since they weren't there in the first place (because this is in /tmp/SBo and not /, then makepkg is none-the-wiser [14:19] nix_chix0r, stop changing [14:19] *chanting [14:19] that was my stomach growling [14:19] hiptobecubic, makepgk will try to create whatever symlinks it finds in $PKG [14:19] yeah [14:19] alright, that's all i was looking for [14:19] thanks all [14:20] nix_chix0r, excuses! i don't need to hear them [14:21] ogridd (n=ndambuki@196.207.29.42) left ##slackware. [14:22] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [14:22] nsp (n=nsp@66.182.243.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:23] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:23] ogridd (n=ndambuki@196.207.29.42) joined ##slackware. [14:24] nsp (n=nsp@66.182.243.1) joined ##slackware. [14:24] Thanks all [14:25] I removed /usr/local/lib/libGL* and that did the trick [14:26] crudo (n=0xdead@189.81.203.102) joined ##slackware. [14:27] :) [14:27] nsp, if you need to remove the nvidia driver you will probably need to reinstall xorg [14:27] because of the replaced libGL [14:28] umm, no [14:28] the installer has an uninstall option, that restores the xorg libs [14:28] does not always work... [14:29] that's possible, never really used it [14:29] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:31] Ok, well my system is working great. [14:31] Action: slackytude wants samba4 and zfs [14:31] I have a [used] Gforce-6800 now [14:32] PCI-e [14:32] have the ATI linux drivers gotten any better? [14:32] ViN86, Xv works on my system [14:32] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) left irc: ""Remember that death is not the end but only a transition." -- Dream Theater, song "Fatal Tragedy"." [14:33] if you upgrade to git everything a few games even work [14:36] toastytoasy (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[14:58] I'm currently packing everything in this place [14:58] diabolix (n=jsoyke@c-24-3-121-83.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:58] bah [14:59] diabolix (n=jsoyke@c-24-3-121-83.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] diabolix (n=jsoyke@c-24-3-121-83.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:59] diabolix (n=jsoyke@c-24-3-121-83.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:00] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [15:01] Anyone here using OSS? - (as opposed to alsa) [15:01] not currently [15:01] but which oss? [15:01] A friend just sent me this article, http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2007/05/sorry-state-of-sound-in-linux.html [15:02] well, it changed and iirc there is a follow-up article but a few years ago, oss was definitely working better than alsa [15:02] (and it's still maybe better) [15:02] http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html [15:02] alienov (n=alienov@75.97.116.136) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:03] ogridd (n=ndambuki@196.207.29.42) left ##slackware. [15:03] iirc I couldn't play ut2k4 with alsa, only with oss [15:03] Camarade_Tux: Open Sound System http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2007/05/sorry-state-of-sound-in-linux.html [15:03] danceb (n=danceb@78.134.13.31) joined ##slackware. [15:04] nsp, http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html [15:04] heh [15:05] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [15:05] hi all!. two weeks ago i booted slack. installation using usbboot.img but after 18/08 changelog it doesn't boot anymore.... [15:06] the bios starts correctly syslinux [15:06] but it does not find the kernel in the usb driver to boot.... [15:07] echo "[q]sa[ln0=aln256%Pln256/snlbx]sb729901041524823122snlbxq"|dc [15:08] same problem for someone else? [15:09] how do you know it uses syslinux? [15:10] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:11] i see the syslinux version when it boots from the usb. [15:11] y0 Camarade_Tux [15:11] yoyo fire|bird [15:12] danceb: why do you boot using the usb key? isn't slack installed? [15:13] ...i have to install it from a local FTP server after booting from usb. but it doesn't work since the changes made to usbboot.img (18/08) [15:14] Nick change: udevd^ -> udevd [15:14] (19/08 slackware64-current) [15:14] hi:) [15:14] http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/slackware/slackware64-current/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [15:15] ....i tried the usbimg2disk.sh tool and the dd command to do the job. [15:15] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "-" [15:16] but nothing. 2 weeks ago worked perfectly in the same PC. [15:17] stunix (i=1000@80.239.36.187) joined ##slackware. [15:17] traditional partitions are: swap / /usr /home, correct? [15:17] lee___, yeah [15:18] thanks. [15:18] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [15:18] danceb: well, there have been changes but I can't tell you more for I can't test right now [15:18] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:18] \o/ one more french on teh channel! \o/ [15:18] i'm thinking it's a "bug"....but i'm not sure..... [15:20] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [15:21] is there a way to email slackware team and report it or i should just wait? [15:24] dakarn (n=skas@net-91-81-205-172.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) joined ##slackware. [15:24] is there way to detect hardware (3g modem, dvd@usb) beeing inserted ater system start? [15:25] udevd, heh, yes, its called udev [15:25] most of the team is here too but try again with previous version if possible [15:25] slackytude: :> [15:25] slackytude: you stole my joke! ='( [15:25] :P [15:25] Camarade_Tux, its mine! [15:25] Camarade_Tux: ok thx a lot! [15:25] slackytude: you can't have both the beer and the joke! ='( [15:26] can too! [15:26] but i can ;) [15:26] no, you don't [15:26] Action: Camarade_Tux cries in his mother's arms [15:27] mwahahahaha [15:27] ;> [15:27] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [15:28] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:30] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:31] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:32] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:33] danceb (n=danceb@78.134.13.31) left irc: "Leaving" [15:34] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [15:37] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-144.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. 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[15:50] good [15:55] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-136-51-250.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:57] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] I'm looking at something that can restrict a program's rights, for example I want to forbid a program *of* *mine* to write to the disk [15:58] dont write to disk? [15:59] does anyone know if there's a way to keep wget from creating the directory with the hostname? [15:59] ?? [15:59] i'm reading the man pages and not seeing anything, just wondering if anyone knows off hand [15:59] nachox: was that to me? [15:59] it's in there somewhere [16:00] SiegeX: thanks i'll keep looking :) [16:00] ezrafree: like -nd perhaps? [16:00] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] slackytude: Thanks for the link... he seems to still favor OSS [16:00] greetings and salutations [16:00] nsp, np. yeah, he does [16:00] nsp, alsa + jack ftw [16:01] yes [16:01] or maybe --cut-dirs=# [16:01] greetings andarius [16:01] or -nH [16:01] slackytude: a program that may have a security flaw (through a library I use) [16:01] i think the option you want is --no-parent [16:02] Camarade_Tux, if it can be done it would need to be an SELinux thing [16:02] ahh -nH appears to be there one [16:02] it's alias is --no-host-directories [16:02] --no-parent is different [16:02] thanks quasar! [16:02] np [16:02] edman007: that's what I thought but I was looking for other thought [16:02] s [16:03] Camarade_Tux, i know standard POSIX does not do it, and i know apple recently implemented it in their OS (they made a big deal) [16:04] Action: Camarade_Tux is writing a web browser with modules to handle the different parts and each one would have the most restricted rights possible with all other ops going through a secure "manager" [16:04] Camarade_Tux, but otherwise i think the best you can do it just switch to a user with no prive [16:04] all in different processes of course [16:04] Camarade_Tux, yea, safari does that [16:04] edman007: thought about that [16:04] does anyone have an idea on this? The issue: http://pastebin.com/m4ef177f3 My relevant build script sections: http://pastebin.com/m737dddde [16:05] Camarade_Tux, wait...i forgot, you just chroot to a folder and drop perms so you can't write to the folder [16:05] If I just make a package of the "Main" program and install that, then re run my build script with the plugin section enabled, it builds fine [16:05] I can't figure out how to tell cmake where to find those libs since they aren't installed on the system, only in $PKG [16:06] antiwire, build with -j1 [16:06] doesn't matter either way [16:06] looks like its building in the wrong order [16:07] edman007: but you could escape the chroot with root priviledges [16:07] There are really two builds going on and even the project's example describes using make install for the first half, the "main" program and then building the plugins [16:07] Camarade_Tux, no, not without exiting the process, and you would not need root privs [16:08] antiwire, well did ADM_core build? [16:08] yes [16:08] uva (i=bno@118-168-233-224.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:08] it builds fine... [16:08] where is it? [16:08] $PKG [16:08] If I just make a package of the "Main" program and install that, then re run my build script with the plugin section enabled, it builds fine [16:08] ..in the root of $PKG? that does not make sense, it should be in the build tree [16:08] but that's not a clean method [16:09] yes I didn't mean in $PKG I messed up there [16:09] edman007: I'll have to check chroots but iirc they're not to be used for security [16:09] it's where it should be in the build directory [16:09] Action: Camarade_Tux would like jails [16:09] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [16:09] Camarade_Tux, no, they are used all the time for security, you start a process and it can't go the a parent of the folder that you give it [16:10] thus in the worst case it should not be able to access the filesystem (unless it can get kernel privs and go around the chroot) [16:10] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-228.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:10] edman007: I don't think the jobs issue is the problem. It seems like the project expects make install to have been done before the plugins are built [16:10] edman007: oh, ok, think I misread [16:10] antiwire, are you sure? make the build show the gcc commands [16:10] chroot would be ok [16:11] edman007: you want me to use -j1 on the first section or the section section? [16:11] second section* [16:11] antiwire, everything [16:11] 10 bucks says I get the same error [16:12] but it is either an issue with the number of jobs or the gcc command to link to it is wrong or it is not building and not exiting the build process with an error [16:13] Camarade_Tux: do you go on reddit? [16:13] edman007: my concern are basically what http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Abusing_chroot says but 1- I don't chroot often and don't have much experience of chrootss 2- have to go now, be back in an hour or two [16:13] aceofspades19: yes, why? [16:13] Camarade_Tux, and if you want to allow access you actually can open file, and pass the file handles to the child when you put it in the chroot [16:13] Like i said, if I build the main portion first with the plugin section disabled, package and install it, and then modify the build script so that it doesn't rm any of the existing build directories in /tmp and rerun the build script with the plugin build section enabled it builds fine [16:13] aceofspades19: my nick is basically unique, if you see it, it's me ;) [16:13] Camarade_Tux: I just happened to see your username lol [16:13] I was like hey I know that guy [16:13] ^^ [16:14] well, gone :) [16:14] ViN86 (n=ViN86@cpe-72-228-59-183.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:14] I can't figure out how to tell the plugin build section that the libs are in $PKG/usr/lib instead of /usr/lib [16:15] I'm wondering if I need to do something with -LLIBDIR for the plugin cmake command [16:15] but if i do, I don't know what that is [16:15] Camarade_Tux, hrm, didn't know that...but it still looks good if you can start it as root [16:16] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:16] Camarade_Tux, make a setuid binary that does the chroot and then you drop privs when you start [16:23] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.86.102) joined ##slackware. [16:26] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:28] rc.inetd should be included? [16:28] uva_ (n=bno@118-160-168-185.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:29] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:29] lee___, hm? [16:29] started over .. at the "startup services to run" menu [16:30] ok, wasn't the jobs. [16:30] edman007: do you know how to tell cmake/make to show full output? [16:31] nope... [16:31] did you check the man page? [16:32] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:32] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. 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[17:03] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A741F0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone, but not forgotten" [17:03] i have a question, when i try to mount a music cd it said: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, and i try on another lap with winbugs and it didnt say anything and played prefectly :s why ? [17:03] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:03] agentc0re: Wow those are tiny [17:03] josefig, music cds can't be mounted because they don't have a fs [17:03] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:03] music CDs can not be mounted, but most audio apps can play them [17:03] lf4: i love mine. and they are fast for their size.. [17:04] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-144.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:04] edman007, like what application can play them ? [17:04] or you can rip them in to mp3 or ogg files [17:04] audacious or xmms [17:04] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: "-" [17:04] audacious can't :s i tried [17:05] xmms can, i done it before, i bet audacious can too, you just did not try hard enough [17:05] workman can play music cds too [17:05] open xterm and type in workman [17:06] mm [17:06] wait [17:06] i have no workman [17:06] i'm pretty sure audacious can [17:06] oops, its workbone [17:07] have you tried to play "location" and select the drive device? [17:07] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-12.2/slackware/ap/workbone-2.40-i386-3.tgz [17:07] twolf (n=none@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [17:07] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-14-219.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [17:08] rg3, nope [17:09] workbone is playing the cd but now i can't hear anything :P [17:09] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [17:09] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [17:09] alsamixer in another terminal use the M key to unmute, mm = mute, 00 = unmute [17:09] do master and PCM [17:09] Audacious can play CDs through the CDA plugin. You have to go to "Plugin Services" and then "Add CD" [17:10] hi antiwire - I finally have a scan for my wifi setup - now where do I put my key? [17:10] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:10] MS3FGX, uhm thank you :D [17:11] now it works [17:11] gem_cat: configure /etc/rc.d/rc/inet1.conf for wpa_supplicant use and then read /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [17:11] abject thanks antiwire [17:11] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:11] thanks all guys :d [17:12] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. 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[17:22] garme (n=garme@187-24-16-63.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:22] nix_chix0r: nice :) [17:22] made the sauce up with some jimmy dean, garlic, onions, salt, pepper, and sriracha chili sauce [17:22] omnom [17:23] garme (n=garme@187-24-16-63.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:23] garme (n=garme@187-24-16-63.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:24] udevd (i=udevd@host-89-229-70-199.szczecin.mm.pl) left irc: "leaving" [17:24] Sounds spicy. [17:24] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:24] garme (n=garme@187-24-16-63.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:24] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:25] <|Slacker|> sounds delicious [17:26] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:27] garme (n=garme@187-24-16-63.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [17:27] Hey lf4 [17:29] hey fire|bird [17:30] Adriaan (n=Adriaan@138-61.bbned.dsl.internl.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:30] edman007: http://pastebin.com/m2826d0c7 [17:31] How is everything going fire|bird ? [17:31] lf4: going great, thanks. you? [17:31] Everything is going well, thanks,. [17:32] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] linXea (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:32] alphad (n=quassel@41.189.39.185) joined ##slackware. [17:33] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:34] actually here http://pastebin.com/m2d9c3b81 [17:34] "ls" is at the bottom [17:35] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [17:38] linXea (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:41] SpyKee (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [17:41] alphad (n=quassel@41.189.39.185) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:42] oh antiwire my options are growing like fungus - why do i gave to run another daemon? [17:43] ? [17:44] what do you mean by "another daemon"? [17:44] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.86.102) left irc: "Leaving." [17:44] antiwire, it looks like the wpa_supplicant is just another way to do it [17:44] and what was the way you were doing it before? [17:44] and there are two ways already in the config file [17:45] using /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf allows you to keep all of your wireless configuration in one place [17:45] I explained this to you already once [17:45] you need wpa supplicant for...wpa o.O [17:46] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:46] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] please - I will cooperate I just want simple and the inetd1.conf looks like it takes all possible options [17:48] First off, there is no inetd1.conf. Second, using only rc.inet1.conf depends the card you have. [17:49] ah ha [17:49] i can learn these things - [17:51] boson (n=fadfsda@70.44.193.143.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [17:51] hi [17:52] i noticed fglrx is not in slackbuilds for 12.2 [17:53] before i reformat my arch partition, is fglrx compatable with 12.2 ? [17:53] tomarte (n=tomarte@e179153125.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:54] :) [17:55] boson: yes [17:55] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:55] ok thanx [17:55] who want my connection of 40 [17:55] smileys ? [17:55] collection [17:55] sorry lol [17:56] fglrx is closed [17:56] jigp (i=allan@securabit/listener/jigp) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:56] slackboy, >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Endormi/0004.gif [17:56] lool [17:56] my top five =) [17:56] fredoslack: you know that slackboy is a bot right? [17:56] antiwire: gem_cat could have made symlink inetd1.conf to rc.inet1.conf [17:56] by chance [17:56] antiwire, yes i know [17:57] edman007: yeah, I'll probably make a suid binary and drop [17:57] udevd_ (i=udevd@host-89-229-70-199.szczecin.mm.pl) joined ##slackware. [17:57] SlackWeird, no I make symlinks on purpose but not that one [17:57] antiwire, > http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Manger/0038.gif [17:57] edman007: right now I'm still free to do whatever I want, I' more in planning than in coding [17:57] lool [17:58] evening fredoslack :) [17:58] Camarade_Tux, hi :) [17:58] 23h58 pm at home =) [17:58] yay somewhat lagging.......... [17:58] i'me going soon to sleep [17:58] sleeping * [17:59] Action: Camarade_Tux cleaning [17:59] antiwire, I have read the man page but I still wonder about some things is psk my key in hex? [17:59] Camarade_Tux, present for you> htttp://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Manger/0046.gif[/IMG] [17:59] lool [18:00] -t * [18:00] gem, wpa_supplicant can take your hex key or else the ascii passphrase if you put it in quotes [18:01] gem_cat: you just told me that you don't want to use wpa_supplicant.conf. That is the method I use. I only use rc.inet1.conf to tell the system that I am using /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [18:01] if you're going to try to use rc.inet1.conf for wpa you're on your own [18:01] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [18:01] Action: BP{k} wonders what the hell is up with posting smiley links. [18:01] BP{k}: fredoslack has some weird fetish for them [18:01] PSK= or PSK="" [18:02] BP{k}: apparently he collects them and has 40 of them [18:02] :p [18:02] only 40? [18:02] he keeps trying to give them away to people too [18:02] it's a little weird [18:03] s/little/fscking/ [18:04] antiwire, I was trying to understand the three different ways built into the conf - I think I will try your way if I may [18:04] yes only 40 [18:04] name_ (n=name@c-69-140-59-98.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] i'me meticulous [18:04] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:05] what is good encryption software I can use from the command line? [18:05] http://pastebin.com/m59846524 [18:05] name_: depends on the task [18:05] antiwire, I am wary of misunderstanding the insturctions that consist of only abbreviations [18:05] gem_cat: that link is for you [18:06] gem_cat: then read the man pages for wpa_supplicant [18:06] what is the strongest [18:06] name_: what are you trying to encrypt? [18:06] a whole disk or just single files? [18:06] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Connection timed out [18:07] keep it in the channel [18:07] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:07] linXea (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:07] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] i've a question: do the udev make devices ready automaticaly? i remember, my 3g modem works only when inserted into usb before system starts... [18:08] what do you guys think about gpg [18:08] gpg is solid [18:08] linXea (n=esbjorn@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:09] How much crap are you looking to encrypt? If you are looking to encrypt a lot of stuff you might as well use volume encryption instead of per file encryption [18:09] werti_rus (i=500@89-178-177-92.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [18:09] small things [18:09] (pr0n) [18:09] ;> [18:09] one file at a time probably' [18:10] gpg is a good option, lot of work has gone into developing it and its been around enough that people have had a chance to try to poke holes in it [18:10] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.165.48) joined ##slackware. [18:10] 00:08 < udevd_> i've a question: do the udev make devices ready automaticaly? i remember, my 3g modem works only when inserted into usb before system starts... [18:11] lool [18:11] ;> [18:11] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:11] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [18:12] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:12] i can choose up to 4096 bit key size. its there a legal limit? [18:12] with encryption, age is key, longer a program's been around the better and the longer an encryption scheme has been around the beeter [18:13] legal limit? [18:13] fredoslack: i chosed my nick when i was 12, i ran `ps -aux` on ubuntu and saw a rpocess that has a nice name, so, naturally... ;> but i don't know, do it make them ready or not. [18:13] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:13] yeah, there is a law in the US about how strong encryption can be [18:14] phehhehe [18:14] ;> [18:14] lol [18:14] i didnt' understand [18:14] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-136-51-250.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:14] anything [18:14] sniiif [18:14] :( [18:14] There is no law that limits me to using a maximum key size. [18:14] I thought that was only if you were going to export encrypting software [18:14] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:15] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:15] rsa's limited to 4096 bits in gpg iirc and 1024 for dsa [18:15] but that is not legal limit [18:15] it's an algorithm limit [18:15] antiwire, thanks I will need a few days to absoarb so much [18:15] gem_cat: days? [18:16] you can patch it if your needs are such that you fear the quantum computer that'll crack your 4096 bit key in December of 2179 [18:16] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:16] name_: and, if you have, for an example 100000 0000 666 -bit key, then FBI might arrest you? [18:16] udevd_: no. [18:16] what so? [18:16] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.17.110) joined ##slackware. [18:17] it won't work? :D [18:17] 2^4096 has 1234 digits [18:17] the brain leaks almost as fast as I can read antiwire [18:17] it was example [18:17] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [18:17] ;> [18:18] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [18:18] i billion has 10 digits [18:18] 1 billion [18:18] I can't remember if the length limit of the key is because the algorithm can't or because it's simply useless (doesn't provide more security) [18:18] go shabal, go! [18:18] udevd_: Flawed example or not, you will not be arrested for having an unconventionally long key in use in the US [18:18] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427485.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:18] http://www.shabal.com/?p=80 [18:18] you will just get beaten harder until you tell it. [18:19] ok remove your tin foil hats 8-P [18:19] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "leaving" [18:19] http://xkcd.com/538/ [18:19] it is surely not useless, it is a basic element of RSA that the larger the keyspace, the longer the time tobruteforce [18:19] ;) [18:19] so you're not allowed to have "real" encryptions in the US ? ... [18:19] why would you ever thingk the keyspace size is irrelevant? [18:19] linXea: you are out of your element. [18:20] antiwire: but aren't you forbidden to "export" something that [18:20] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [18:20] Camarade_Tux: yes [18:20] uses strong encryption? [18:20] ok :) [18:20] it's not illegal to use it though. [18:20] let's go back to netscape and 56-bit keys! [18:20] 56? pff.. I use rot-13 encryption. [18:21] the export restrictions are to a handful of countries, the rest just need a notice in the there or something, this was relaxed years ago [18:21] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:21] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: [18:21] mancha: we you talking to me about key size irrelevance? [18:21] because I certainly do not think key size is irrelevant. [18:21] quasar: bah, rot13 sucks, only rot3 works well -_- [18:21] caesar's code \o/ [18:22] whoever said it was irrelevant, it's off my scroll npw [18:22] now [18:22] you sunk my battleship ! [18:22] *to whoever said... [18:23] name_ i would seriously not worry about a 4096 bit key being cracked in the next many many years... [18:24] antiwire, I think 'they' quit worrying about encryption when the developed satelites that could watch you thru the roof ;> [18:24] the more likely situation is that you're coerced to give up the ey [18:25] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:25] see the xkcd comic posted earlier. [18:25] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [18:26] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: "leaving" [18:26] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:26] name_ (n=name@c-69-140-59-98.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:26] think about how long it takes to crack a random 64-bit WPA auth key? who knows. well guess what i't snot linear, a 65-bit key takes twice as long as a 64-bit key, and here you are talking about 4096 bits [18:26] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:27] that's not a very accurate comparison though. WEP cracking takes place because of a flaw in RC4 [18:27] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:27] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui" [18:27] a full brute of a 64bit key is different than using the ptw flaw to crack it [18:27] another tiny issue - I fixed the cd so it mounts as 'users' in fstab - now how do I fix the memory stick? [18:28] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:29] you're talking wep now, i used wpa for my example [18:29] ok i see that now [18:30] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:31] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:31] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:31] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [18:32] RizR00t (n=chatzill@c9157849.virtua.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:32] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-27-37.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:35] good evening :-) [18:35] good diurnal anomaly to you, too [18:36] evening macavity, how are you? [18:36] yo macavity [18:36] thanks again antiwire [18:36] hey specifier|scaring [18:36] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-14-219.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware ("Fades out Slowly"). [18:36] evening macavity:) [18:37] haha, hey forcefully|rebellion [18:37] hey hitest [18:37] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:37] fire|bird: very good, you? [18:38] macavity: doing great, thanks. :) [18:38] fire|bird: I broke my laptop I think [18:38] Urchlay: How'd you do that? [18:38] it's contagious! [18:38] heh.. i just broke *into* a laptop :P [18:38] went to whack the spacebar and somehow a fingernail got under the key, and it came off [18:38] macavity: haha, I've had several laptops apart lately. [18:38] hiya fire|bird [18:38] along with half of a tiny plastic clip thingy that's supposed to hold the spacebar in place [18:39] Urchlay: Did it break? If not it should be fixable. [18:39] it still works, but the spacebar is only half-attached [18:39] fire|bird: HPs TPM system is nothing short of very bad joke :P [18:39] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:39] I can't tell whether the little clip-thing is meant to be 2 pieces or not (it [18:39] if the clip's not broken then it can be salvaged. if you have clumsy hands this will take you longer than 40 consecutive kernel compiles to reattach :> [18:39] it's microscopically small) [18:39] macavity: :P, It's HP zv6000's that I've been taking apart. :) [18:40] mancha: not clumsy, but large hands [18:40] fire|bird: BIOS lock? [18:40] is it a square looking plastic thing? [18:40] Urchlay: Well, if it's like my laptop, it's a 2 piece plastic part. [18:40] yeah [18:40] fire|bird: and/or Power on Lock [18:40] okay, that probably has an outer and inner portion with a mini joint between the two [18:41] macavity: nope. I've had to replace cpu's and mobo's though for other issues, including replacing the mobo/cpu in my own. :P [18:41] the clip on the other side isn't broken, but I can't figure out how to make the busted one look like the good one [18:41] it opens upwards (when joined together) like a figure ^ [18:41] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [18:41] i'd say tweezers, a magnifying glass, and plenty of booze [18:42] macavity: and come to find out the card reader in my mobo is all mangled, broken contacts, etc. but I have a usb card reader so I can't complain. :P [18:42] ok [18:43] you can probably raise the working clip on the other side from the inner part a bit to see the mechanism. don;'t raise too much [18:43] macavity: It's fun, even though there's about 29 screws to remove to get the bottom case off. :P [18:43] HP says that if the power-on and/or BIOS password is lost, then you have to have a soldered chip removed... that is not right :P [18:43] macavity: yikes, that sucks. :P [18:44] or short the battery [18:44] short the thing for a dump [18:44] fire|bird: yup.. but at least the HP manuals somewhat decent when it comes to dis aseembly [18:44] the ic that is [18:44] macavity: yeah, very true, the manual for mine too has very extensive instructions for tearing it apart. [18:45] mancha: it looks a bit like one of those puzzles where you have 2 or 3 metal rings, made into a chain, and you have to separate them [18:45] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [18:45] urch, they're pesky things, i once f*cked a spacebar on a old laptop, after a few hours of trying to fix it i smashed it and bought a replacement [18:46] macavity: I have another zv6000 with a kb that works half the time and right clicking causes it to act as though something gets stuck and the windows sound for right clicking gets stuck on repeat. I've tried a different touchpad and kb with no success. :P [18:46] heh, last time I took a laptop apart, I forgot when to stop: I was busy removing the security screws that hold the hard drive together, when I noticed "wait, I'm already done" [18:46] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [18:47] no need.. just take it appart, remove the RTC battery, assemble enough of it to power it on.. wait while it the fan is still going at full speed.. when it spins down, power off, insert RTC battery, power-on, enter BIOS, load default settings, poweroff, put back HDD etc etc -> pwnd [18:47] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [18:47] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:47] Greetings Programs [18:47] greetings NyteOwl [18:47] NyteOwl: greetings bug [18:48] wassupa? [18:49] according to some obsucure forum i found you can fool the mobo to run the "first time bios generation" program if you start it witout the RTC battery pressent [18:49] yes or short the batter [18:50] macavity: This zv6000 I have has 2 fans, one runs all the time (at varying speeds) and the other never does, from what I can figure out is that they have it set at a really high limit before it kicks in. :P [18:50] it sounded like that was right, as the CPU load went insane for about 2.5 minutes, then it idled.. it didnt produce any screen output though [18:50] *though [18:50] mancha: doesnt work [18:50] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-144.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:50] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [18:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:51] and apparently the trick does not work if neither optical nor HDD is present.. but i didnt bother to verify that [18:51] boson (n=fadfsda@70.44.193.143.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [18:51] helloooo: :p [18:51] Well, if it's anything like mine, if the optical drive is out, it won't boot at all. :P [18:52] no BIOS post? [18:52] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427485.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:52] macavity: just a beep or two and it just sits there. [18:52] :P [18:52] great usability [18:53] I don't even get the HP logo screen. [18:53] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:53] mac, unless your mb is very unuaul the pw is on a prom which needs power [18:53] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:53] mancha: we are talking getting around HPs idea of theft protection [18:53] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:53] short the chip, not the battery [18:53] picture of me [18:53] brb [18:54] qwhen i have tried to install Fedora. [18:54] >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/F%EAtes/0021.gif [18:54] loo [18:54] lool [18:54] fredoslack: piss off. [18:54] or simply clip on and rewrite it [18:54] well if you have a jumper between pins 1 & 2 you can move it to short 2 & 3 [18:55] but w/o power the cmos should die [18:55] andarius: the info about getting a chip replaced was from their www page.. the info on how to actually reset it without was from their own service PDF + the "dont forget to power on in the middle and let it run the program" from a forum.. i never actually figured out which chip that supposedly should get replaced [18:55] fecking netgear [18:55] laptop makers have begun t impliment ships with retention and no jumper [18:55] huh? [18:55] who was in here talking about a utility called "synergy"? [18:56] macavity: some digging should yeild it. though a rewrite is not simple without additional toolds [18:56] Urchlay: ananke was [18:56] andarius: this was rather easy.. google and an electrical screwdriver with a verbose bit set :P [18:56] danc3: am messing with latest version of it, apparently the developer never even bothered to check & see if it'll compile, before releasing it [18:56] heh. That's always fun. [18:57] Urchlay: might be a missing dep [18:57] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [18:57] danc3: lots of missing #include , and his default CFLAGS include -Werror [18:57] no, not a missing dep [18:57] andarius: i had to give up on the IBM machine i tried the same approach on though.. [18:57] andarius: but then again, i am not really a hardware expert [18:57] Action: macavity is not a $WHATEVER expert :P [18:57] i am not an expert, just ... inclined :) [18:57] error: "strlen" was not declared in this scope... the fix? add "#include " to the offending source file... but there are 20 or 30 of them [18:58] was hoping somebody else had done all the work of patching it, so I won't have to, just to try it out [18:58] andarius: my buddy and i have actually considered starting to study hardware a little.. any good first reads? [18:58] what does synergy do? [18:58] Urchlay: there's this: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/synergy/ [18:59] macavity: i have no idea honestly. start witht he basics of course [18:59] mancha: lets you control 2 or more PCs with one keyboard and mouse. Kinda like the old "x2x" utility, except it works on linux/windows/mac [18:59] Urchlay: not likely the latest version, but might be worth a look to see if it's worth messing with [18:59] andarius: home study :P [18:59] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:59] danc3: yah, possibly so [18:59] macavity: i learned all i know on my own so... ;) [18:59] ah, that's interesting [18:59] danc3: I'm wondering if this isn't caused by a change in gcc (like, the version I have, would compile on older gcc's, but newer ones are stricter) [18:59] andarius: so i should look for "An introduction to computer hardware".. or maybe even "An introduction to the feild of electronics"? [19:00] Urchlay: could be I suppose [19:00] link me an i can tell you if older gcc works [19:00] i would say learn basic electronics, as it applies to everything. then work out [19:00] roger [19:00] Urchlay what happened? [19:00] synergy2.sourceforge.net IIRC [19:01] ROFL why haven't I noticed the "wtf" command before? [19:01] Quiznos: silly compile errors [19:01] k [19:01] diabolix (n=jsoyke@c-24-3-121-83.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:01] RizR00t (n=chatzill@c9157849.virtua.com.br) left ##slackware. [19:02] guy uses strlen(), memcmp(), all sorta C functions, in his C++ code... and fails to #include or string.h [19:02] >.> [19:02] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [19:02] I stopped doing that, k? [19:02] Urchlay for gcc, those are compiler-internalised [19:03] Quiznos: failing to include the headers results in failure to compile, in C++ (in C, it's just a warning) [19:03] I'm on the quest for a shell account. Most hosting services are geared towards web developers, I just wan't an offsite place to put svn repositories, and ssh into. [19:03] ok [19:03] I should have said "g++", not "gcc" [19:03] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:03] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [19:08] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.33.45) left irc: "Saliendo" [19:08] compiling on my test box [19:08] I got it patched up now [19:09] the entire patch consists of adding "#include " lines to about 10 different c++ source files, and nothing else [19:09] so yes, it musy be a gcc version issue, what version do you have? [19:09] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:09] 4.3.3, the one in -current [19:10] Action: Camarade_Tux thought Urchlay was talking about kde >< [19:10] naw, some program called "synergy" [19:10] cool utility, horrid name [19:13] Action: edman007 loves synergy [19:14] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:11) joined ##slackware. [19:15] well i have it all set up and packaged even, now i guess i should at least play with it before i rm the whole thing [19:15] what does it do? [19:15] edman007: a question: does synergy have a graphical launcher on Linux? I see a launcher subdir in the sources, but it looks pretty windows-specific [19:16] Camarade_Tux: lets you run 2 or more PCs from one keyboard/mouse [19:16] Urchlay, nope, i just have it set to launch a daemon on login, i never see it on my desktop [19:17] I dunno why I'm messing with this right now, have to fix my laptop keyboard before I can usefully use it [19:18] jigp (i=allan@ti500720a080-2460.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [19:19] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [19:20] figabo_ (n=figabo@189.186.33.45) joined ##slackware. [19:20] figabo_ (n=figabo@189.186.33.45) left irc: Client Quit [19:21] figabo (n=figabo@189.186.33.45) joined ##slackware. [19:21] Urchlay, I saw stallman using an old thinkpad with a keyboard sitting on top of it. [19:21] yeah, I've done that kind of thing before [19:21] but it makes the laptop a lot less portable [19:22] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [19:22] i've also seen him pull a big chink of dried skin off of his foot and eat it, while giving a lecture at CMU. [19:22] Urchlay: you missing keys from the keyboard? [19:22] dude, that is frigging disgusting [19:23] thats why I don't use emacs. [19:23] I'm a strait shooter, shirt, tie, suite, and VI. [19:23] nooper: I got part of my finger under the spacebar and it ripped off. There's 2 retaining clips that hold it in place, and one is broken (or maybe just came apart; I can't tell if it's meant to be one piece or two) [19:24] screw suits and ties [19:25] I do wear shirts, but they're t-shirts usually [19:25] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:27] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [19:29] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-228.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [19:32] hey does slackware have any qt or gtk development kit? [19:32] There's no way to monitor icecream unless kde is installed? [19:33] That's pretty terrible. [19:33] Action: missyjane perks up, "what ice cream? did someone say ice cream?" [19:33] :o [19:33] eh, it has a compiler, text editors, and all the headers/libs needed to compile Qt or GTK programs... but I'm guessing that's not what you meant by "development kit"...? [19:33] Action: hiptobecubic doesn't make any jokes.... [19:33] hiptobecubic: Maybe you need to install icecream-cone for monitoring? :P [19:34] Urchlay, im talking to edman007 actually, so yes thats what i need, a compiler and editor to compile a qt or gtk program, whatwould that be? [19:34] bleah, I've read too many of those stupid Xanth books, I really did almost just "correct" the spelling to "eyescream" [19:34] fire|bird, i wish. all they have are icemon... which requires kdeconfig. [19:34] missyjane, slackware has all the dev stuff ;) [19:34] fire|bird, my ice cream [19:35] missyjane: any editor you like (I like vim)... and the compiler is gcc (or g++ for Qt, since it's written in C++) [19:35] emacs FTW [19:35] Urchlay, maybe missyjane means the Qt dev package that Nokia distributes. [19:35] hiptobecubic: wow, you'd think there'd be something that didn't need kde. [19:35] emacs would make me lose, if I tried to use it [19:35] seriously. Forget kde. that's absurd. [19:35] interesting, edman007 what do you have to say?! >:( [19:35] jk back to pm [19:35] i like distccmon-text. [19:35] edman007: too late, I handed *your* ice cream to missyjane, if you wan't it, go get it yourself. :) [19:36] s/wan't/want/ [19:36] fire|bird, fine [19:36] Action: edman007 bites missyjane [19:36] edman007: besides, your name wasn't on it. :) [19:36] Action: missyjane cries, "waaaah edman007 bit me!" [19:36] :( [19:37] Action: fire|bird gives edman007 an ice cream truck full of ice cream :) [19:37] yay [19:38] uh oh, its melting! [19:38] Action: edman007 eats it fast [19:38] Action: fire|bird gives missyjane a box of tissues to wipe the tears. :) [19:38] he's kinky that way [19:38] aaarnt (n=arnt@host-134.249.188.200.fns.freefone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [19:38] best get a rabies shot just to be sure :) [19:38] edman007: nah, just adjust the thermostat, it's next to the speedometer. :) [19:39] NyteOwl: haha [19:39] Action: edman007 floors it [19:39] missyjane: glade for gtk (or is it a sbo?), maybe the new qt ide which name I forgot (starts with a 'q' ;p ) [19:39] wrong one... [19:39] edman007: that was the brake you idiot. :P [19:39] but i gotta install glade and thats huge, forget that [19:39] i wanna use something EASY [19:39] Qt Creator [19:40] bah i just wanna stab someone [19:40] That's the name of the new Qt ide: Qt Creator [19:40] stab eviljames :) [19:40] missyjane: stab edman007 he bit you, remember? [19:40] Camarade_Tux: You shouldn't stab someone who isn't here to defend himself. :P [19:40] Action: missyjane stabs edman007 very hard [19:40] \o/ [19:40] whoa, the ice cream's turning red. [19:41] OW [19:41] ewww blood [19:41] first i get run over by a giant robot chicken and then stabbed? [19:41] Action: edman007 bleeds on fire|bird [19:41] Action: missyjane screams "ew ew ew" as she tries to run from the sight of blood and gore [19:41] missyjane, there you go [19:41] yop-lait (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [19:41] fire|bird: he is here, see, he's connected! :D [19:41] blood-flavored ice cream, market it to the wannabee vampire goth kids, make a million [19:41] edman007: she's a girl (I think), but you could run into her with the ice cream truck. :P [19:41] Nick change: werti_rus -> werti [19:41] Camarade_Tux: Yeah, he's always connected, just not around. [19:42] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:42] Nick change: werti -> wertik [19:42] Nick change: yop-lait -> [yop] [19:42] Urchlay, great idea [19:42] Nick change: wertik -> werti_rus [19:42] fire|bird: :D [19:42] werti_rus (i=500@89-178-177-92.broadband.corbina.ru) left ##slackware ("#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)"). [19:42] Urchlay: good idea, but I wouldn't want to be the taste tester for that. :P [19:42] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:43] fire|bird: i'm a [blood] sucker for red ice cream.. i can haz? [19:43] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:43] fire|bird, you THINK im a girl? D: what the hell man, i thought we were friends [19:43] missyjane: hahaha, j/k. :) [19:43] macavity: sure, why not. :) [19:43] fire|bird: doesn't matter what it tastes like. People who are dumb enough to eat it, are dumb enough to eat it even if it tastes like used motor oil [19:43] missyjane: and btw, that's not blood, that's a bunch of ketchup. :) [19:43] Urchlay: true [19:44] missyjane: personally i dont care if you are male or female.. it is your ability to contribute to the community that matters to me :-) [19:44] fire|bird, you just keep saying that [19:44] macavity: good point :) [19:44] fire|bird: damn.. you ruined my diet! :P [19:44] haha [19:44] Action: macavity coughs up the filthy ketchup [19:44] lol [19:44] aaarnt (n=arnt@host-134.249.188.200.fns.freefone.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [19:44] ew... ketchup flavored ice cream.... go away fire|bird :( you make me sad macavity i try, im still learning a LOT (just starting college, in the midst of things like lfs, understanding kernels, etc, so much going on, ig otta study for my next few tests and certs, so its really difficult for me as im very stoopid and slow) [19:44] i am strictly carnivour ;-) [19:45] missyjane: go away? :( [19:45] LOL [19:45] missyjane: oh, contributions to the community does not at all need to be technically oriented [19:45] kde 4.3 build takes forever. :/ :P [19:45] yup [19:45] missyjane, macavity LOVES meat [19:46] macavity, confusing, what do you mean? [19:46] fire|bird, kde 4.3 on what? [19:46] Action: macavity gives edman007 the 1000 yard stare [19:46] missyjane: slack current [19:46] edman007: so... want to see my server central in the basement? [19:46] oh screw you fire|bird lol [19:46] wait [19:46] missyjane: :O [19:46] girls use slackware? [19:46] Fatalnix, youre very late on that, dont bother [19:47] Action: Fatalnix boggles at the boggles at the concept [19:47] haha [19:47] macavity, umm....i'll be fine with pics [19:47] I'm just happy I am releasing Binary::ProtocolConstructor [19:47] missyjane: i mean that you dont have to send in patches, or even bug repports to contribute to the community.. being a mood lifter or a tech supporter, an artist or a wikipedia jurnalist is ++ too [19:47] for perl [19:47] PICS OR IT DIDN"T HAPPEN! [19:47] Action: macavity things edman007 looks tasty [19:48] ohh.. so does toastytoasy [19:48] toastytoasy: what didn't happen? [19:48] macavity, psh, mood lifter, i get into too much debates on forum and too much arguments on irc to make anyone happy, i suspect a few people here secretly hate me for being non-partisan in politics [19:48] lol [19:48] nothing unless there are pics proveing it happened [19:48] lol [19:48] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [19:48] macavity, you can't have my meat [19:48] missyjane: it is impossible to be non-partisan in politics... in fact the very word "apolitical" is an oxymoron :P [19:48] but i can right? ;) [19:49] that didn't really sound right. :P [19:49] noobfarmed! [19:49] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:49] macavity, no thats not what i mean at all.. fool... i mean that im not for either republican or democrat [19:49] hm... fool... [19:49] anyways, i need to fix up my documentation [19:49] Nick change: missyjane -> missT [19:49] for my perl module [19:49] missT hahahaha [19:50] I pity the fool [19:50] i pity the fool man, and im a girl :D [19:50] fire|bird, i think it sounded just right [19:50] Action: fire|bird contemplates /nick MrT [19:50] so since it's miss that mewans your single right???????? [19:50] toast10101, yes [19:50] toastytoasy, yes [19:50] toastytoasy: :O, your interested there toastytoasy? :P [19:51] one sec my name isn't right [19:51] Nick change: toastytoasy -> toastytoast [19:51] im VERY controversial and i know it, i know a lot of people dont like me for it, but im nto gonna sit back, i MUST voice my beliefs [19:51] Well, it would fit, missT could become MrsT, i.e. Mrs. Toasty :P [19:51] people must here that injustice will not go on! [19:51] shut up fool [19:51] sounds good to me [19:51] Nick change: edman007 -> pittyTheFool [19:51] lol [19:52] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] wb Urchlay [19:52] Toast is a guy [19:52] I think [19:52] missT: if you want my honnest oppinion about why you run into flak every so often it is not about your being non-political (in context of the US system) [19:52] What us US? is that some sort of virus? [19:52] macavity, actually no, i run into flak in ##slackware, specifically because people attack me personally [19:53] Action: toastytoast goes back to playing ff7 again [19:53] is* [19:53] fire|bird, i pitty you [19:53] mostly for no reason [19:53] Fatalnix: US = United States [19:53] is that some sort of virus? [19:53] Fatalnix: look at a map, it's a country [19:53] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [19:53] its a joke dude [19:53] lol [19:54] That was a joke? I hope your not a comedian [19:54] Nick change: pittyTheFool -> edman007 [19:54] missT: i have observed your interaction here since you were known as Airergirl (or how to spell it).. and sometimes.. just sometimes.. your style of personality just *begs* for slam dunk remarks :P [19:54] macavity, i have proof as i brought this issue up with #freenode staffs before, i dont want to go into a tangent but i WILL say ive had some really stupid people go at me for no reason other than cause im a girl [19:54] Nick change: missT -> airergirl [19:55] :) you remember [19:55] missT: and yes, i have seen people being outright asses to you, but i have also seen you over react severly when people were merely having good fun [19:55] macavity, im actually happy now, someone remembers my legendary name [19:55] lol [19:55] Herman (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:55] airergirl: uhm, i am a semi-old rat around these parts :P [19:55] lol [19:55] semi my ass. [19:56] er [19:56] s/semi-old/old/ [19:56] Action: quasar goes back to lurking [19:56] Action: fire|bird runs [19:56] Action: airergirl wants to marry macavity [19:56] :O [19:56] no you dont.. [19:56] haha [19:56] cause then my GF will chop you up in little gory peices and dispose of the evidence in the Hudson river [19:56] ok this is ##slackware, your source for info on why you broke your warranty, not your marrital issues. [19:56] if youre married, maybe not but if you arent, i wouldnt even mind a dinner attempt :x [19:57] LOL [19:57] Fatalnix: haha [19:57] eh, there's nothing else going on right now anyway. [19:57] actually macavity i just realized its airer-girl [19:57] Nick change: airergirl -> airer-girl [19:57] MORE girls who use slackware!? [19:57] \o/, kde 4.3 is almost done (this is the second time I've built it) :P [19:57] quasar: compared to rworkman and alienBOB i am nothing but a newbe in here [19:57] Action: Fatalnix boggles at the boogles at the boggles at the concept. [19:57] airer-girl, identity crisis? [19:58] Action: toastytoast kicks Fatalnix in the tooth [19:58] edman007, no just being as original as i can to myself [19:58] damn... you got a point there :\ [19:58] Action: airer-girl will make love to those who remembers me [19:58] thats puts the count upto 4, that i know of. [19:58] toastytoast: eh, it was just a false tooth anyway. :P [19:58] oh well [19:58] airer-girl, i got logs going back for quite some time... [19:58] fake teeth thats not as un [19:58] fun* [19:58] airer-girl: go look up the word "dignity" in a dictionary, will you? ;-) [19:59] toastytoast: I know, but you work with what you got. [19:59] macavity, what about it? D: [19:59] airer-girl: lies! [19:59] and slander? [19:59] lol macavity are you saying i am slutty? [19:59] toaster no cybersexing [19:59] 02:03 * airer-girl will make love to those who remembers me [19:59] ^^ [19:59] if you do, you will die with your bits in the usb port [19:59] you guys are all crazy [19:59] bah, she's overseas [20:00] macavity, very few people remember airer-girl haha, im just surprised [20:00] dignity: the quality or state of being worthy, honored, or esteemed [20:00] only you would try it liek that Fatalnix [20:00] [20:00] some people stick out in your memory.... [20:00] re, slam dunk ^ [20:00] And toast just dropped his keyboard EPICLY [20:00] cause i went on a haitus from freenode to get my life straight, i came back and that actually gave some people a heart attack, "holy **** this girl is real, not at troll" cause all trolls never come back [20:00] fuck you Fatalnix makeing my keyboard fall [20:00] toastytoast: c'mon now, that language isn't needed. :) [20:00] yes [20:01] see how I said bits insteasd of junk? [20:01] in this case it was [20:01] if you ever get labeled a troll you are doing something wrong.. group communication wise [20:01] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:01] in your dream Fatalnix [20:01] So anyways [20:01] Action: Fatalnix sighs [20:01] macavity: she already owes me a blowjob btw -_- [20:01] Diretruck. [20:01] and yes.. ive learned that way that not everyone wants to know about the latest conquests of the FSF :P [20:01] Camarade_Tux: use a condom ;-) [20:01] macavity, i have, actually, as airer-girl, for my name ALONE, just like i was kicked from ##politics for being a girl and solely that [20:02] how far is the new revision of slackware coming along? [20:02] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:02] what do i owe you a blowjob for Camarade_Tux? [20:02] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] airer-girl: please obsever that 99% of every person who makes special note about being female is *not*.. at least on freenode [20:02] *observe [20:03] argh. it's baaaack! [20:03] macavity, i didnt though, it was my name [20:03] lol see? ananke, zhivago, among others are MEAN to me [20:03] wew should be talking about why 0xff is supposed to be 255, not that.. stuff. [20:03] i can name some more names, but my point stands [20:03] we* [20:03] talk about dilusional [20:03] uhm, having the word "girl" in your nick doesnt count as "special note"? [20:03] thats why i had it changed to missyjane [20:03] and that is not? [20:03] no [20:04] missy* [20:04] jane is my real name [20:04] anyone use eclipse? I am trying to find help on eclipse and android channels, but participation is non-existent [20:04] i know [20:04] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:04] if i cant use female sounding names, you cant use male sounding names [20:04] :) [20:04] what is your last name? [20:04] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [20:04] just make one up if you dont want to tell [20:04] jane fonda? :P [20:04] nah, i wanted to use jane but thats taken (real person btw, you can msg jane) [20:04] Action: macavity gibslaps fire|bird [20:04] OUCH [20:04] Nick change: hiptobecubic -> I_AM_MALE [20:05] HAY GUYZ [20:05] Action: NyteOwl refrains form a commetn about John Clayton [20:05] hey man [20:05] ANYONE WANT TO HAVE HETEROSEXUAL INTERCOURSE [20:05] nys shoos.. wan 2 cybar?? [20:05] from comment [20:05] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:05] a/s/l? 13/m/cali here [20:05] >_< [20:05] arg.. [20:05] lol see macavity? you are one of the more reasonable ppl here so i generally listen to you [20:06] Nick change: airer-girl -> missyjane [20:06] i remember names too :) [20:06] Action: macavity has a special AOhelL de javu [20:06] and back to our regularly scheduled drivel on ##slackware [20:06] I_AM_MALE, i do! [20:06] nobody is asking anything about tech related so :x [20:06] 87/t/moon [20:07] LOL [20:07] josefig (n=Rhond@200.92.188.184) left irc: Client Quit [20:07] LongeFlucht: Go ahead and ask your question, if someone does, and is around, maybe they can help you out. [20:07] MOON? THAT'S TOO FAR, MY MOM WON'T DRIVE OUT THERE AGAIN [20:07] grazymax (n=grazymax@host85-192-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:07] I_AM_MALE: is your capslock stuck, or do you just like shouting? [20:07] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:07] I_AM_MALE, just hide in her car, she comes out here at least 4 times a week [20:07] hey alisonken1church [20:08] fire|bird: yo [20:08] ok real question, how can i figure out if installing a certain slackware version will work before i actually install it? [20:08] alisonken1church, HELLLO!? CRUISE CONTROL 4 COOL? [20:08] Nick change: I_AM_MALE -> hiptobecubic [20:08] well that joke's about dead. [20:08] missyjane: you can't, you just install and hope for the best. :) [20:08] ok this is gfetting a bit out of control.. [20:08] :( [20:08] missyjane, you can do it [20:08] Firetrucks! [20:08] edman007, ive done it before, ask Quiznos [20:08] lol [20:08] they are red right? [20:08] missyjane, what are you trying to do, anyway? [20:08] missyjane, then you can do it again [20:08] remember them old firetrucks from like the 20's? [20:08] missyjane: define "will work"? [20:09] install current, it froze at something about font configuration and nothing worked, it wouldnt respond to my keyboard [20:09] convince people you're a not a fat basement dwelling guy? [20:09] macavity, it wont even get past installation stage [20:09] Fatalnix, yea, i remember when i was -60 years old [20:09] missyjane: It sits at the font config for a while, how long did you wait? [20:09] missyjane: sounds like funny hardware [20:09] missyjane, oh. yeah that's no good. [20:09] hiptobecubic, you are still going on it? really? ive offered webcam so dont blame me if you dont have one [20:09] fire|bird, about 30 min [20:09] missyjane: Ah, then something else is going on. [20:09] not sure what though [20:10] missyjane: You installed from an iso? Did you check to make sure the md5sum matched what it should be? [20:10] missyjane: can you boot a live CD of sorts and pastebin the output of lspci? [20:10] Set your repo to 11.0, slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all. set repo back to -current and do it again. [20:10] why cant i do lspci now? [20:10] should flush things out [20:10] missyjane: Are you on the machine you tried current on? [20:10] fire|bird, yes [20:10] missyjane: oh, you got *some* GNU/linux distro working on that machine? [20:11] missyjane: then you can do lspci now and paste the output. [20:11] SO has the guys from slamd64 merged with slackware now or something? [20:11] lspci away :P [20:11] macavity, uh, yeah, this is the same machine and really the only machine that i ever use... to chat with you guys.. play games... use irc.. surf the internet, etc [20:11] ^^ [20:11] macavity: iirc, she's got a slackware version on this machine yet, just couldn't get current going. [20:12] fire|bird, any specifics? not really comfortable with showing everything :x i can just tell you what i have, q6600, nvidia 9600, max gb for 32bit [20:12] macavity, just download the whole tree and `init 1` and do an upgradepkg on the downloaded tree [20:12] much faster that way [20:12] err missyjane [20:12] fire|bird, yea, 12.1 works perfect-o, nothing doesnt work here, everything goes smoothly, just 12.2 and current borks on me [20:12] edman007: tab completion fail :) [20:12] missyjane: I'd check the md5sum of the iso you used, could be a bad download. [20:13] Well, maybe not with BOTH 12.2 and current [20:13] quite frankly i also got ubuntus (kub too), gentoo, and some others to work, just some of slackware version (the 10 and 11 days are some reminders) didnt work [20:13] fire|bird, macavity looks like a chick anyways [20:13] edman007: haha [20:13] fire|bird, trust me dear, i did check, i doubt its bad download [20:13] missyjane: come again? you feel unconfortable with showing the machines *hardware* list? [20:13] missyjane: ok, just a suggestion. :) [20:13] edman007 : you know, i honestly can't remember the last time i've gone to runlevel 1 for any kind of slackware upgrade. i wonder if there are actual documented cases of problems, when doing it from say runlevel 3 [20:14] the fact is, things dont move on here past 12.1 cause im too scared, just my honest statement about how i feel [20:14] -.- [20:14] missyjane, it installs then borks on first boot? [20:14] easy to say, but i get very scared so i try nto to mess things up, im one of those people that never touch the keyboard as soon as i hit enter on upgrade or something [20:14] i have upgraded X while it was running several times.. i just alt-crtl-backspace it when i am done.. works every time [20:14] lol http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9ddyy/i_could_do_with_a_little_help_testing_my_arduinos [20:14] ananke, i usually don't, but i have done it a few times if i don't want to reboot, if i plan on rebooting i just do it in runlevel 4 with me on irc and the net [20:14] jonsmith1982: current stuck for her on font config, i.e. didn't even get to first boot. [20:14] jonsmith1982, nope, imagine after installing the packages, then it would get to the part that says "configuring font" or something like that and just freeze there [20:15] fire|bird, ya [20:15] missyjane: are you using a non-US keyboard layout? [20:15] oh no, standard keyboard [20:15] and who removed the latest quote from noobfarm? there was a quote after me and now its gone :( [20:15] ok.. i just discovere a bug in the early keyboard setup [20:16] the one inside the setup program works as advertized [20:16] but the first time the question is asked it fscks up if i pick the danish keyboard [20:16] macavity: I want your Hi Fi Mama :) [20:16] macavity, well don't pick that [20:17] Camarade_Tux: get to work on that browser, do not speak until it is finished. :D [20:17] edman007: if i am just going to cfdisk and run setup it is no proplem [20:17] fire|bird: not speaking, just typing :D [20:17] Camarade_Tux: Well, typing is still what you're thinking. :P [20:17] edman007: but if i want to use it as a rescue tool it is a piss annoying problem, as - | and / are located in funny places then [20:18] macavity, nice [20:18] get a US keyboard [20:18] Rummaging in closets can be worthwhile - just found a new unopened 200GB HD [20:18] fire|bird: but I'm using typing in the browser! [20:18] edman007: i have much better idea.. why dont eveyone in the US get a danish keyboard? [20:18] Camarade_Tux: getting closer to done? [20:19] i speak english and you speak english :) [20:19] for me, i dont think its a keyboard problem, since during the font config, it wont even respond [20:19] yop-lait (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [20:19] NyteOwl: wow.. can i dig through your trash? [20:19] missyjane: no, it's not a kb problem in that case. [20:19] macavity: sure, pretty wet at the moment after the "hurricane" [20:19] fire|bird, slackware 12.2 on the other hand, clicking X would crash any app, but nobody believed me :| lol [20:20] fire|bird: not really ;) [20:20] dånish keybøard? [20:20] macavity: now why should I get a danish keyboard? :P [20:20] and not before this weekend [20:20] missyjane: i have seen that happen too [20:20] how about I just get a danish and some coffee? [20:20] missyjane: in KDE [20:20] missyjane: it was a Qt bug [20:20] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [20:20] Camarade_Tux: cool, when will it be in a testing phase? :D [20:20] Urchlay: coffee? execlent idea! [20:20] I have an external floppy for a Laser (Apple clione) I found too [20:21] macavity, yeah!! precisely what im talking about! but nobody believes me lol [20:21] check pm [20:21] i did [20:21] NyteOwl: clione? It's apple, don't you mean iclone? :P [20:21] lol [20:21] and i answerd in here a long time ago [20:21] no no, check again fool [20:21] NyteOwl: a Laser 128? I remember those... [20:21] fire|bird: < two weeks? ;) [20:21] Camarade_Tux: \o/ [20:21] fire|bird: btw, slackware or slackware64? [20:21] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:21] Camarade_Tux: slackware. My laptop will have slack64 eventually. [20:21] Nick change: yop-lait -> [yop] [20:22] \o/, kde 4.3 is very, very, close to done. :) [20:23] fire|bird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Firefox#Release_history [20:23] fire|bird: what is the first version which had all the features you care about? [20:23] Urchlay: yup [20:23] fire|bird: I'll just install slackware32 too and compile [20:23] no comp anymore didn't realize the floppy was still kicking around ehre [20:23] (no, I don't want to setup cross-compilation for glib/gtk/... , hhmmmmmm actually...) [20:24] Camarade_Tux: well, pretty much, just a browser that's functional, I don't look for tons of fancy features. On that page, that'd probably be like 0.1 :P [20:24] fire|bird: for me it's 0.4 [20:25] cool :) [20:25] released almost 7 years ago [20:25] after about 4 weeks of development [20:25] ;) [20:25] to use the current kernel the reboot is needed right? [20:25] uh oh, my build failed at koffice. :/ [20:26] haha, whoops, different version. :/ [20:26] powtrix: yes [20:26] looking news on changelog :) [20:28] macavity: Do you know off hand (with slackware's kde slackbuilds, etc.) where it pulls the version info from? I know it takes the version info for kde itself from KDE.options, but where does it pull the other stuff from? [20:29] fire|bird: i havent looked into the KDE4 slackbuilds [20:30] fire|bird, Camarade_Tux why dont you two be more like macavity? he actually believes that i have slackware 12.2 issues >:( [20:31] hmmm, what [20:31] Action: Camarade_Tux was busy [20:32] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:33] and it's 2:30am here [20:33] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:33] go to bed Camarade_Tux [20:33] you must be tired [20:33] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [20:33] grrrrrrrrrr [20:33] I went to bed at 5am last night [20:33] missyjane: nah, not tired [20:34] it's getting worse and worse each day [20:34] it's *tomorrow* that I'll be tired [20:34] Action: Camarade_Tux has to wake up in 7 hours [20:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OynuoGc_SQ [20:35] night all :) [20:35] Dosvidenya Camarade [20:35] macavity: long time no see [20:35] :) [20:35] morning [20:36] SlackWeird: actually it has been so long that i dont remember precicely who you are :P [20:36] missyjane: fwiw, I never said I didn't believe you. :P [20:36] macavity: ok, thanks. [20:36] evening dive. [20:36] mmm senilty creeping in? :) [20:36] fire|bird, believe me what? [20:37] missyjane: that you have slack issues. [20:37] fire|bird, lol.. psh yeah right.. [20:37] haha [20:37] macavity: he's former troll but is going through rehab [20:37] i said slackware 12.2 isnt stable and i got hell for it, so i never brough it up [20:37] antiwire: what troll? [20:38] missyjane: 12.2 is very stable, you've had bad luck with it however, but that doesn't make it unstable. [20:38] ecnrdoi [20:38] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:3dd) joined ##slackware. [20:39] macavity: \o/, got it, it's a local.options file in the koffice directory. [20:39] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:39] missyjane: You do realize how stupid it is to say that 12.2 isn't stable, right? you are 1 out of 1000's that use it that have said that. [20:39] y0 agentc0re [20:39] fire|bird, agentc0re *shrug* doesnt work for me :x [20:40] http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1251008795773.jpg [20:40] work safe [20:40] greetings superGear, how may missyjane help you today. :) [20:40] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:41] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.17.110) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:41] antiwire: pardon me... [20:42] k [20:42] CmdLnKid (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:42] CmdLnKid_ (n=clk@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [20:43] Nick change: CmdLnKid_ -> CmdLnKid [20:43] antiwire: wow, that's a nasty crash. [20:43] I wonder what happened [20:44] antiwire: maybe crashed with another plane? Looks like the pilot ejected fine though, thankfully. [20:44] dios_mio (i=test@88.241.137.85) joined ##slackware. [20:46] macavity: once you said that MAC addresses are seen by the out side of ones private network, do you mind explaing how? [20:46] antiwire, i love the pilot [20:46] antiwire, might be from the recent russian airshow crash [20:47] spoof them, spoof them all! [20:47] then they see a mac but its not yours :) [20:47] SlackWeird: that is how the NAT device keeps track of connections [20:47] SlackWeird: as in, it will pass the package through, just altering the internal ip address with the external one [20:47] I thought NAT dealt only with IPs [20:48] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:48] SlackWeird: then when the reply comes back it can see which mac it is adressed to, and translate the ip address back [20:48] SlackWeird: you should read up on how the ethernet protocol works.. as that is what IP is implemented on top of [20:49] diabolix (n=jsoyke@c-24-3-121-83.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:50] macavity: why I cant see MAC addresses from outside my network? [20:50] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-64-150.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:50] SlackWeird: you can [20:50] thats why I thought nat wont do it [20:50] arp broadcasting? [20:50] no way [20:51] i dont bother doing you homework [20:52] get a text book on ethernet [20:52] its not homework dude, you say stuffs and dont explain it... thats what you should bother [20:52] Action: NyteOwl thinks changing the MIC MAC address on a schedule to random addresses would be neat [20:53] s/MIC/NIC/ [20:53] SlackWeird: i just DID explain to you how NAT works... [20:54] dude NAT is just an algorith that associate an private IP with a public one in other to get accesses to another network [20:54] and how on earth would that keep track of connections? [20:54] Action: NyteOwl suggests that the internet use starlan [20:54] Action: NyteOwl hides [20:55] who has tcpdump on their router? lets do this right now. [20:55] eh, google replies back to that gateway, and the gateway figures out which of the LAN clients should get the reply how? [20:55] macavity: some way other than in NAT i think [20:55] I'll set my internal system's MAC to something lame and ping your router while you watch [20:55] antiwire++ [20:55] brb [20:55] let me set my mac to 1337ness [20:56] heh I saw a vanity licence plate the other day 31337 [20:56] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:56] antiwire1 (n=antiwire@97.94.111.202) joined ##slackware. [20:56] Nick change: antiwire1 -> antiwire [20:57] ok [20:57] wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:37:13:37:13 [20:57] lame enough? [20:57] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:11) left irc: Connection timed out [20:57] I am behind NAT [20:57] I can haz ping you? [20:57] SlackWeird: forward port 12000 to your machine and start tcp dumping [20:57] or telnet? [20:58] I'll use hping to hit whatever you want [20:58] look for syns [20:59] back alter [20:59] er alter [20:59] later damnit [20:59] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "Molon Labe" [20:59] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:00] no takers i guess [21:00] macavity: but port forwarding has nothing to do with NAT algorithm , you're pretty much bridging... [21:00] oh man. [21:00] no..you arent [21:00] SlackWeird: do you even understand what is baking here? [21:01] his brain [21:01] someone open port 6969TCP and watch for syns with wireshark so you can post a screenshot [21:01] shake & bake, and i helped [21:01] I have tcpdump on my router [21:01] lets say you you make a DMZ forwarding everthing to an IP would NAT doing something to that specefic machine? [21:01] SlackWeird: you are just supposed to make sure antiwire can reach your machine.. then you tcpdump, and when you see 00:13:37:13:37:13 you know that i am right [21:01] ricardobarbosa__ (n=jiraia@2001:0:4137:9e50:2c1b:3ab0:36a7:d5d1) joined ##slackware. [21:01] SlackWeird: you're not staying to one topic at a time. [21:02] lets solve your MAC NAT question right now. [21:02] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:3dd) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:02] I need a WAN IP [21:02] you'll get mine too so don't flip out... [21:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation <-- read and be happy [21:03] Action: missyjane must go for the night, thank you slackies [21:03] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [21:03] TV sucks :| [21:03] bahh [21:04] The question is: If I am on a system behind NAT and he runs tcpdump on his router looking for TCP SYNs on port 6969 from me, will he see my internal system's MAC address or will he see some other MAC address. [21:05] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-64-150.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-64-150.prtc.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:05] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [21:05] or will he see even nothing [21:05] you certainly will see something [21:05] about MAC [21:05] yes you will. [21:06] ethernet frames have MAC address fields. [21:06] Action: andarius thinks he will see your underwear :o [21:06] you will see *a* MAC [21:07] ok someone with a router that they can actually control...care to tcpdump a few tcp SYNs on port 6969 from me? [21:07] pastebin them [21:07] K I understand that ethernett framaes have MAC header/footers [21:07] You've asked this same thing before so we will kill this question right now if you wish. [21:07] Unicasting arping to a host outside the network wont work why [21:08] because you are in a different broadcast domain [21:08] thats where my question comes in [21:08] ... [21:08] NAT wont do it [21:08] wtf are you talking about? [21:08] I mean NAT would do it [21:08] I am the only one totally confused now? [21:08] Should do it [21:10] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-64-150.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [21:10] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [21:11] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] Anyone know if there is a simple setting in irssi that can reverse the order of recent chats? [21:11] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-64-150.prtc.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:12] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:14] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [21:16] tomarte (n=tomarte@e179153125.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [21:18] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] who is willing to ping my want now? I setup a tap so I can see the raw traffic before it hits my router [21:19] willing to ping me now** [21:19] i will [21:19] :D [21:19] quasar: not that type of ping [21:19] that's why I did it lol [21:19] macavity: normal ICMP [21:20] what MAC did you see? [21:21] 00:18:f3:66:a6:4a? [21:22] As I should, I see the MAC of my closest hop router.. [21:22] my ISPs router. [21:22] ?!? [21:23] 00:14:f1:e4:7e:5d [21:23] this is how it works. [21:23] hi [21:23] if that is the case i need to burn a book.... [21:24] Hakudoshi (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [21:24] Hakudoshi (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:24] give me a minute and I'll paste bin the whole packet [21:26] macavity: see what i mean? [21:27] SlackWeird: I told you this last time [21:27] I told you that the MACs will get changed [21:28] macavity: Mind if I post a screenshot with the info so he can see it? [21:28] please do [21:28] http://i27.tinypic.com/2lu57oo.png [21:28] i am about to pour gas on a book i have.. i just need to verify that i didnt mis read anything [21:28] i specifically am showing the ethernet section because that is where we are interested [21:29] indeed it is [21:29] burn it baby burn it. [21:29] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-74-183.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] could you post the entire frame? [21:30] k [21:32] http://pastebin.com/m13238979 [21:33] CeruleanC (n=Cerulean@unaffiliated/ceruleanc) joined ##slackware. [21:33] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "pebkac, id-10-t clicked the X ^_^" [21:33] so with tcpdump the nearest I can get to you is your ISP antiwire ? [21:34] no [21:34] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:34] ISP router MAC i meant [21:34] tcpdump is a protocol analyzer. you can see any traffic between you and me [21:34] In this case, I sniffed on a tap that i setup between my modem and router [21:34] so I had a third person point of view [21:35] hmm.... [21:35] it appears that i stand corrected [21:35] macavity: it happens ;) [21:35] yeah it [21:35] is [21:35] but that's how routing works [21:35] i think i forgot about ARP domains when i played with this years ago [21:35] during the translation the MAC addresses are included in the translation table [21:35] on the NATing router [21:35] as in, i just set up a NAT box with several NICs and played away with it [21:36] the router has it's own ARP table too [21:36] its [21:36] macavity: that might be why you saw a different thing happening; one system with multiple NICs [21:36] in our case we are going though a whole slew of devices and routes [21:37] three computers client <-> NAT-box <-> client [21:37] in that case ^ you *will* the mac [21:37] the Key thing is that wherever it goes, a packet will hold ethernet frames witch contains MAC information. [21:37] each side of the NAT box will the the respective client's MAC for that side [21:38] macavity: in our test, we have many routers between us [21:38] so we see the closest hops mac instead [21:38] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-56-100.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:38] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:39] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:39] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:39] SlackWeird: the there way around: ethernet frames makes up packets. In this case fragmentation is off, so one ethernet frame holds one IP packet [21:39] even on a purely multipe router, routed network, each router will only ever see its neighbor's MAC [21:39] yeah we used ICMP only [21:39] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [21:39] we could fudge around [21:39] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:39] LongeFlucht (n=LongeFlu@cpe-76-176-137-140.san.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:39] oh yeah good point [21:40] honestly, the easiest way to get someone's internal MAC and private IP is with java script and a rogue website [21:40] i need to brush up on this shit.. i have only been working with the wireless link layer for a while [21:40] (guess why ;-) [21:40] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-228.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:40] sitwon_ (n=adam@pool-71-191-145-195.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:41] lol.. this book has Microsoft Press logo on the front [21:41] Action: macavity lights it [21:42] here: http://decloak.net/ [21:42] check that shizzle out [21:42] if you ever stubmle on a book that is called "Switched and Fast Ethernet" with a big ship on the cover, dont buy [21:43] Slackware 12.2. [21:44] I think that decloak page is what SlackWeird is wishing he could do on an arbitrary basis [21:44] antiwire: lol.. try that with konqueror [21:44] let it keep going [21:44] will should finish [21:45] but yeah that is nice..internal error [21:45] and nothing happens.. i doubt they get anything meaninfull from konqueror [21:45] this is when you ask "is this a bug or a feature" :P [21:45] lol [21:46] if it is a feature it should have a better message: "this place tries to pwn you, so now we just dropped all connections to it" [21:46] "hit F5 a hundred million times to annoy them, kktxhbai!" [21:46] at it works, just click the link below the animation [21:46] well no really [21:47] it sort of works..in that you can only see the WAN stuff [21:47] antiwire: that got through my 127.0.0.1 [21:47] lol [21:47] uh? [21:48] that Decloaking Engine [21:48] It displayed localhost? [21:48] no actually I was kidding [21:49] oh you [21:52] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-56-100.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:55] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [21:56] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [21:56] I slipped while I was surfing today. Not only did I twist up my knee but the board popped up and smashed into my knee [21:57] is the board ok? [21:58] lol [21:59] that particular board was triple glassed and took the smashing much better than my knee [21:59] oh good. for a moment there I thought we might have had to have a board funeral [22:06] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-216-222-251-92-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [22:08] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-126-212-198.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving." [22:09] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [22:09] SlackWeird (n=ecnrdoi@unaffiliated/slackwared) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [22:09] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:0:4137:9e50:2c1b:3ab0:36a7:d5d1) joined ##slackware. [22:10] Fatalnix (n=bhodgins@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:10] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:11] SpyKee (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:11] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [22:13] So what is decloak.net anyway? [22:13] Nick change: ClaudioM -> ClaudioMADEUS [22:13] ccfreak2k: http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20090819/itms-decloaking/ [22:14] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:14] So it just retrieves your real IP address? [22:14] (if you're proxied) [22:15] your real as well as nat'd ip in some cases [22:18] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:18] stillborn (n=millax@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [22:18] hello anyone knows how to connect with irssi-xmpp?? [22:20] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:22] officergris (n=officerg@tark-b-131.resnet.purdue.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:24] officergris (n=officerg@tark-b-131.resnet.purdue.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:25] ricardobarbosa__ (n=jiraia@2001:0:4137:9e50:2c1b:3ab0:36a7:d5d1) left irc: Connection timed out [22:26] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:26] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [22:27] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:27] stillborn (n=millax@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) left ##slackware. 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[22:36] slacks (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [22:36] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:37] Nick change: slacks -> |Slacker| [22:37] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [22:43] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [22:45] Neo_The_User (n=matrix@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] what does patrick mean by To make a bootable Slackware install DVD, get into the top level Slackware directory? [22:46] i know where it is but [22:46] how to... get into? [22:47] save link as? [22:47] then go there and burn? [22:47] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [22:47] create a local mirror and work from there [22:47] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui embora" [22:48] i dont have a local mirror server in my house [22:48] on your hard drive, does not have to be a server [22:48] oh [22:49] so mkdir slackware then save slackware64-current link to disc then burn? [22:50] thats not right [22:50] Neo_The_User: alienBOB has written a script that'll do it for you, you might try it out [22:51] you must copy all of the files on the mirror. [22:51] he doesnt like me. he wouldnt share it with me [22:51] umm.... [22:51] .. its on the net [22:51] Action: andarius gets another beer [22:51] ohh [22:51] hahaha [22:52] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh [22:52] Nick change: ClaudioMADEUS -> ClaudioM [22:52] you'll probably have to tweak it a slight amount for 64-current [22:52] >_< [22:52] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:52] ill edit it [22:52] yeah i got it [22:53] thanks. i know bash very well [22:53] AWESOME [22:53] oh, nm.. no tweaking necessary [22:53] it should be mandatory for laptop makers to post lspci output under specs :P [22:53] macavity: ++, that'd be great. :) [22:54] Hey whats up? [22:54] macavity: you're here a lot [22:54] so I upgraded to 2.6.27.31 using slackpkg upgrade and it will not boot [22:55] says /dev/vg0/root no such device, however its there and everything, I fixed the initrd and reran lilo [22:55] heh [22:55] you borked it [22:55] it detects and acxtivages /dev/vg0/root,then hates me throwing the initrd shell [22:55] activates* [22:55] peace out yall. im outie [22:55] Neo_The_User (n=matrix@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:56] but my initrd is fine. I'm not sure what the problem could be [22:56] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [22:59] quasar: what's that mirr script? [22:59] it's a script that mirrors, builds an ISO and burns it for you [22:59] ty [22:59] awesome little script.. I'd do well to read it and learn a thing or two from it [22:59] PurpleSmurf: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh [22:59] so call it "mirBldISO? [23:00] compact and yet highly desriptive! [23:00] lol [23:00] prob highly susceptible to tab complete too [23:00] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] ty fire|bird [23:01] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:01] what is it? a couple of vars, a few comments; seen one, seen em all! :) [23:01] bah [23:01] heh [23:01] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:01] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] alisonken1church (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:02] Uvix (n=Uvix@adsl-145-171-117.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:02] I wonder why it would say that /dev/vg0/root is there and say no such device when It mounts it? [23:02] "no suuch device"? [23:02] or tries to [23:03] yeah [23:03] no, [23:03] "no suuch device" [23:03] lol [23:03] yet [23:03] its there [23:03] I even ran cat on it [23:03] "but wait, there's more!" [23:03] if you mopunt now, you'll have files. [23:03] dive: you here [23:03] o.o [23:03] yea, we need a mopunt command [23:04] ... [23:04] what did the cat do? [23:04] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [23:04] I'll tell ya what the cat didn't do... hit the crack pipe :) [23:04] heh [23:05] show a bunch of disk data from the root fs [23:05] liar; you saw bits!! [23:05] ... [23:05] i know you did [23:05] I'm pretty sure it was 8 bytes [23:05] I mean [23:05] bytes* [23:05] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [23:05] did you run a fixit command? [23:06] m_ (n=m@209.90.93.98) joined ##slackware. [23:06] Do I look stupid to you? [23:06] bhodgins: just ignore him, he's Purple for a reason, the oxygen to his brain was cut off, thus being Purple. :P [23:06] lol [23:06] lol [23:06] no, you look like a bhanson [23:06] but Yeah I was wondering if anyone else had my problem when upgrading [23:06] bhodgins: and now, just random, stupid comments come out. ;P [23:06] oops [23:06] redtricycle (n=redtricy@ppp-68-120-198-189.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] oops broken trike is here [23:07] sometimes I regret running root in lvm but it has its good sides [23:07] bhodgins: I've never had that issue so I don't know what's going on with it and it doesn't look like there's anybody around atm. [23:07] im running off my laptop hard disk now lol [23:07] haha [23:07] bhodgins: peek ##Linux, regulars there do lvm [23:07] I guess [23:10] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] i do lvm [23:10] lvm did bhodgins [23:10] hmm i like this new pos monitor i bought [23:10] why? [23:10] because its a POS [23:11] heh [23:11] gives him something to bitch about [23:11] yep [23:11] yeah [23:11] i wish i had someth to bitch about [23:11] i call everything i buy a pos ;P [23:11] oh wait, i'm a smurf; i can aut-bitch [23:11] auto- [23:11] PurpleSmurf: well, you are a purple smurf.. that's worth bitchin' about [23:11] sure [23:11] How would I do a usb to usb file transfer? I want to sync my laptop to my desktop without using the wireless [23:11] cp? tar? [23:12] luck? [23:12] plug em in and mount em [23:12] PurpleSmurf: ha! that's what she said [23:12] heh [23:12] PurpleSmurf: seriously? That works? [23:12] i duno; i cant see you [23:12] whats on the usb? [23:12] fs? [23:12] ext3 on both [23:13] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:13] WB antiwire [23:13] mount em [23:13] diabolix (n=jsoyke@c-24-3-121-83.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] does Pat use windows? [23:13] he rocks ME [23:14] Email him and ask him [23:14] Pat runs Windows ME [23:14] lol [23:14] he runs MGR [23:14] I run *from* Windows [23:14] Slackware 14 will be based on Windows Me [23:14] Slackware 13 isnt even out yet o.O [23:15] I switched to windows at work. [23:15] LOL [23:15] it will be soon enough [23:15] I see on README_FIRST.TXT 79:Added Windows boot section :P [23:15] all of a sudden pat comes in here and bitch slaps you [23:15] i jsut got some one at work to switch to linux [23:15] not slackware unfortunatly :( [23:15] Slackware 13 will be out with DNF [23:15] when you install cygwin and rxvt on windows, its not too bad for development. [23:16] Action: toastytoast leaves again [23:16] It just pisses me off that we spend 6 months developing on macs and linux, only to have a mad rush of debugging and insanity when we try to port stuff to windows. [23:17] m (n=m@209.90.93.98) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:17] then don't port stuff to windows [23:17] From what I've noticed..Linux is one of the hardest platforms to develop for [23:17] It moves way too fast [23:17] it is really hard to ship commercial software for linux. [23:18] i dont mind that :P [23:18] cause people expect it to be free or somethin [23:19] eh? [23:19] its not that, its just hard to deal with dependancies and whatnot. [23:19] dnf? [23:20] its a subway thing, you wouldn't understand [23:20] on windows and mac os, there is an sdk for the os. On linux, there isn't really any sane way to make sure your code works on the LSB. [23:21] no and that makes more sense to use your own [23:21] diabolix: and specific software versions [23:21] If you use shared libraries [23:21] so people fuck it up and people can point and laugh [23:22] straterra, thats we statically compile in everything, and make sure that ldd says nothing but libc. [23:22] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [23:22] And that'll work mostly [23:23] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:24] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:26] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.23.183) left irc: "Leaving" [23:26] anyone know of a good place for shell accounts? even if they're paid. I'm looking for outgoing access, ssh, compilers. Everything I can find is really geared toward web hosting, I just want something for remote developement. [23:31] diabolix: linode.com [23:31] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:31] Put any distro/software you want on it [23:31] It's unmanaged [23:33] straterra, they seem to be charging mostly for bandwidth tho. If I could find something that hit the $10 a month mark, I think I would be sold. [23:34] I like having a place to ssh to, and my home internets are unreliable. [23:34] hey who has a MIC and pidgin setup up for voice and video? [23:35] straterra how can it be unmanaged? [23:35] Quiznos: because they dont really care what you use it for.. [23:35] ah [23:35] put whatever distro you want on..do whatever you want [23:35] Quiznos: managed usually means that you call them and they work on it [23:35] do they use vm? [23:35] ty [23:35] yarvin (n=yarvin@105-200-58-66.gci.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] i duno; for all the probs i've helped fix, i dont like remotes. [23:36] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [23:36] They use xen [23:37] And provide console access if you break networking..or a live cd if you break your install [23:37] ok [23:38] SlackWeird (n=ecnrdoi@unaffiliated/slackwared) joined ##slackware. [23:39] hey my friend wants to know how to get his window borders back. his graphics card is an nvidia [23:39] is he running some compositing deal? [23:39] tell em to reboot :) [23:39] Quiznos: i think he meant window as in the screen object [23:39] not the OS [23:39] :) [23:40] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:40] read MSish to me [23:40] Billtoo (n=Bill@bas4-unionville55-1279488427.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:40] antiwire, he was, in xfce, but then we went to try to shut it off and xfce window manager tweaks won't launch. we manually went into the ~/.config directory to hunt down the setting and to our amazement, it's set to false [23:41] spooky [23:41] Well xfce pretty much excludes me from helping since I don't know anything about it [23:41] some of the people in #pidgin have really hilarious nicks [23:42] SpacePigeon...MaximumGarlic [23:42] heh [23:42] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) left irc: "leaving" [23:42] Instead of the Millennium Falcon it's a Space Pigeon [23:42] lmao [23:42] heh [23:43] enterPigeon? [23:43] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:43] DeathPigeon [23:43] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:43] AirbornPoopDispenser [23:43] heh [23:43] Pigeon: 1999 [23:44] lol [23:44] TwinReverb: Which file in ~/.config do you check for compositing? I had been using xfce + compositing the past couple days and now I'm curious if mine shows it's off. [23:44] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:44] (Martin Landau's Space: 1999) [23:44] /home/robert/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfwm4.xml: [23:44] pigeon: impossible [23:44] antiwire: haha, BlindFreakazoid [23:44] lol [23:45] DeadEyePidgeon [23:45] obn4uticus (n=obnautic@207.177.121.200) joined ##slackware. [23:45] FlyingRatSociety [23:45] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [23:45] DivebombingRats [23:46] dios_mio (i=test@88.241.137.85) left irc: "HERE WE IN SANTA FE AND NONE THE WISER" [23:46] lol, CShadowRun [23:46] kamkazRat [23:47] pigeons be damned, full poop ahead. [23:47] lol [23:50] usus12jari (n=duodenum@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [23:50] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-192-215.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. 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