[17:38] slackboy joined ##slackware. [17:38] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [17:39] ##slackware: mode change '+o slackboy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [17:39] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@p3m/member/epoch' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:39] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:39] epoch kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Seeya, trooooollll. Actions have consequences. Adults understand that. [17:39] zecaway kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [17:39] ##slackware: mode change '+o slackboy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [17:39] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@*home.tm.net.my' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:39] unixfool (~ron@about/slackware/wigglit) joined ##slackware. [17:39] heya [17:40] hey unixfool [17:43] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:44] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [17:45] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.164.106) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:45] HaMpA (~kompaesf@cust-IP-73.data.tre.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:46] oxbel (~oxmel@89-212-1-242.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:46] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.57.187) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [17:47] ahh...there was a host hardware issue at the datacenter that hosts the server that the bot runs on [17:47] that's why we lost services today [17:47] So slackboy went postal. [17:48] yep [17:48] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!~alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [17:48] Heya [17:48] got a crapload of host-down notifications on my mapple phone [17:49] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.57.187) joined ##slackware. [17:49] hi alienBOB!! [17:49] unixfool: ya, i bet. was just going to ask if you knew wigglit.ath.cx was down. [17:50] hrmm...maybe i can run a redundant bot [17:50] heya fire|bird [17:51] agentc0re: yeah, and what sucks is that I can't check it at work...they are very anal about what goes outbound. i use webmin but it only gets me so far [17:51] lol, i didn't see alienBOB kick anyone, but he was opped... [17:51] Yes I was opped for the time slackboy was absent [17:51] webmin, for samba? >.> [17:51] ah, i was afk at the time... no wonder [17:52] unixfool: at work the company deploys a Bluecoat proxy which is pretty hard to penetrate outbound (only http/https/ftp to standard ports is open) [17:52] unixfool: crapy. [17:52] wow, that's a nice setup... [17:53] unixfool: but with a remote ssh server running on port 443 I can push out any traffic [17:53] i'm glad the school district doesn't use something like that... it'd be painful to get any work done [17:53] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:53] that's what i was doing, but got tired of all the corp security calls asking what I was doing [17:53] So... why would like runing a "du -hs" make every other process seem really choppy? [17:53] unixfool: hahaha [17:53] then they started blocking .ath.cx [17:53] lol unixfool [17:54] Not funny actually [17:54] I've seen windows do the equivilant, in it there was no choppyness at all. [17:54] that's crazy [17:54] yeah, i started feeling the pressure [17:54] slaker (~slaker@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [17:54] i can still get to webmin if i use an IP instead of a domain name, though [17:54] Here at work, the guys that operate the bluecoat actually told me how to circumvent it (we're all part of IT) [17:54] at least you can still IRC on your phone [17:54] that is true [17:55] I used to run a ajax based ssh terminal in a webbrowser before that [17:55] hehe, always a back door. [17:55] alienBOB : now that's cool [17:55] alienBOB, oh geez, that's pretty damn clever [17:55] toallin (~toallin@81.32.176.99) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:56] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:56] you can do that with horde [17:56] MadneX (~MadneX@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [17:57] gonna switch machines...bbiab [17:57] with the admin tools, you can run cli, php, and a sql query window [17:57] since the school district blocks ftp, i have to ssh to my home box, download it, then put it on my webserver, and download it here [17:57] later unixfool [17:57] heya Necos :) [17:57] unixfool (~ron@about/slackware/wigglit) left irc: Quit: hrmmm [17:57] does it block sftp? [17:57] http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mressl/webshell/ [17:57] they block ssh over 22 [17:57] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [17:57] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@69.18.80.12) left irc: Quit: InspectorCluseau [17:57] so i have to use a nonstandard port to ssh home [17:57] you just need a proxy then [17:58] I'm getting the error PCRE has not been compiled with Unicode property support. this is a fresh full install of slackware, any suggestions? [17:58] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-98-206-17-186.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:00] alienBOB: ever received any compliant or bug report regarding multilib and locale? I'm getting some weird errors and I'm trying to sort them out [18:01] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) joined ##slackware. [18:02] Skywise, my experience with proxies has been pretty hit and miss [18:04] colmcille (~colmcille@94.30.27.232) joined ##slackware. [18:05] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [18:06] have to go help an assistant principal, brb [18:06] slackwaredanny (~slackware@c83-250-115-132.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:06] colmcille (~colmcille@94.30.27.232) left irc: Client Quit [18:06] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:08] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [18:08] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [18:09] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [18:09] sid77: not received any [18:09] groan [18:09] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::541b) joined ##slackware. [18:09] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [18:09] toallin_ (~toallin@174.Red-79-148-69.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] alienBOB: I tried multilib yesterday but I downloaded the wrong version (13.1 in place of 13.0, the upgradepkg went smooth though :-P) I re-upgradepkg-ed to 13.0 multilib and went on with massconvert [18:11] lolwut (~lolwut@c-24-21-78-21.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] today it looked like everything was fine but perl and svn warn me saying they can't set the correct LC_CTYPE and it's driving me a bit crazy as "locale" command correctly shows en_US (albeith with the same warning too) [18:12] Razec (1000@189-92-4-111.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:13] sid77: CTYPE is not "en_US", it's "C", usually [18:13] adaptr: on a virtual machine with slackware-13.0 I get en_US [18:14] let me double check, anyway [18:14] you're thinking of LC_LOCALE perhaps, or whatever it's called on slackware [18:14] how can I know which driver im using for my wifi card_ [18:14] ? [18:15] the warning is "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory" then it shows LC_CTYPE=en_US [18:15] toallin_: if you're using it right now, lshw, or lspci, or lsmod [18:16] adaptr: on a stock slackware-13.0 LC_CTYPE is en_US, it's LC_COLLATE which is forced to C via lang.sh [18:16] ah [18:16] adaptr, but I changed files from /lib/firmware and i want to know if I enabled the iwl5100agn [18:17] toallin_: firmware != driver [18:17] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:17] ajna (~ajna@68.235.239.108) joined ##slackware. [18:17] but the firmwared is aimed to set the iwl5100agn driver according it's instructions [18:18] well...according someone's from a forum instructions [18:18] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.238) joined ##slackware. [18:19] oh [18:19] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:19] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:19] I straced a "locale" call on both my "broken" system and a working one [18:20] on the broken system, it looks for both /usr/lib64/locale/en/LC_CTYPE and /usr/lib64/locale/en_US/LC_CTYPE [18:20] Hello. Question. I'm trying to SlackBuild Lilypond, but the build fails because required programs are missing: mf-nowin, mf, mfw, mfont, mpost, tlasm. I can't find package(s) for them in pkgtool, on SlackBuilds, or in any of the official package repositories accessible from the Get Slack link on the site. Where can I find these programs? [18:20] the first is absent, did it get introduced in -current glibc? [18:21] toallin_ (toallin@174.Red-79-148-69.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:22] ajna: read the README [18:22] gm152 (~quassel@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] The LilyPond README only name fontforge and mftrace as requirements. I've installed packages for both of these. [18:25] pprkut, am I missing something? [18:26] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [18:27] ajna: exactly what version of lilypond are you trying to build? [18:27] and on what system? [18:27] sid77, did you update your own glibc? [18:27] you're missing mf-nowin, mf, mfw, mfont, mpost, tlasm . didnt you just say it yourself? [18:27] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:27] thrice`: what do you mean, exactly? [18:28] sid77, how did you update glibc ? [18:28] Sorry. Got called out. I'm here. [18:28] upgradepkg on alienBOB's multilib [18:28] Lilypong version is.... [18:28] 2.12.2 [18:29] Slackware 13 32bit [18:30] problem is I did it with the wrong version (13.1) in the first time, re-upgraded to correct one (13.0) and run the rest of tutorial [18:30] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:30] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [18:31] ajna: can you pastebin the full configure output? [18:31] hrad (~a@78-136-151-206.client.ufon.cz) joined ##slackware. [18:32] The output that appears in the terminal while lilypond.SlackBuild is running? [18:32] yes [18:32] It's a lot so, so I just wanted to make sure I understood. I'll post it. [18:32] brb [18:32] !pastebin [18:34] Have I misunderstood? [18:34] Not pastebin? [18:34] switching back to livecd to fiddle some more with those glibc, thanks to anyone for the suport anyway :) [18:34] guys how can I set up the memory management to not cache too much, I have usually 90% of RAM used when I'm actually using like 20% ...then my server or some application suddenly require a lot of memory and they can't get it and get stuck [18:35] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-123-4.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [18:35] hrad: yes, they can "get it", cache will be dropped the second (millisecond) the memory is needed for applications [18:35] ajna: no, I was just trying to make my point clear that you should indeed use pastebin :) [18:35] memory useage in linux is different then in windows [18:36] Oh, okay. [18:36] ajna: I was a bit worried by the "just making sure because it's a lot" part ;) [18:36] and it seems to me that windows hides information from the user (intentionally or unintentionally) [18:36] I'll paste it now. [18:36] skywise, no its not [18:36] windows does the same thing [18:36] adaptr, alright, thanks [18:37] not really, windows talks about whats consumed, where linux is more about whats being managed [18:37] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.101.93.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [18:37] hrad: the only metric you have influence over is the enthousiasm with which the kernel will swap out stale memory. if you have lots of free space and don't need lost of cached disk, you can decrease the swappiness [18:38] so its not quite the same when you see theres no memory free in linux as it is in windows [18:38] what? it manages memory the same way, regardles of wording [18:38] nachox (~Ignacio@190.51.45.54) joined ##slackware. [18:38] yes it is [18:38] I'm running the script again and sending output to a file so I can past the entire thing. [18:38] hrad: linuxatemyram.com [18:38] i stole it from jkwood :) [18:39] i know of 4 versiona of windows that do extensive caching [18:39] ahahahaha linuxatemyram.com [18:39] the swap space is used from 40% too [18:39] Arno[Slack]`Work (~adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:39] windows will eat as much as it can for cache then give apps ram as needed [18:40] hrad: i guess you have less ram than you should.. [18:40] Razec (1000@189-92-4-111.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:40] I have 4 Gigs [18:40] hmm [18:40] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.57.187) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:41] free > Mem: 3779668 3445564 334104; Swap: 2104472 594944 1509528; total / used / free [18:41] although that could be considered low in some cases , thats probably not the case :) [18:41] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [18:41] Stupid question, but is a newish Celeron 1.6ghz considered an i686? [18:42] there is only eclipse and one bigger java application running [18:42] straterra: for recent versions of both Windows and Linux DEs, you are correct. a combination of caching, swapping, and preloading. however, the method - or insanity - with which they are scheduled is VERY different [18:42] pprkut [18:42] http://pastebin.com/GLuzcVqk [18:42] gartt: yes [18:42] and how they report memory is different too, but don't bother with those details [18:42] gartt: anything produced after 2001 is a 686 [18:42] NyteOwl: Thanks [18:43] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:43] gartt: it officially stands for "supports at least the pentium pro instruction set" - go wiki when that was EOL :) [18:44] Line 2985 seems to be where the trouble begins. [18:44] ajna: get root with "su -" instead of "su" [18:44] Just a second...I'll give it shot [18:45] Which entry interest you? [18:45] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-68-122.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] hm? [18:45] hi [18:46] Should I paste the output. [18:46] still not working? [18:46] any significant developements with 12.2? [18:46] Oh, I didn't try to run it again. I thought you were interested in the on/off values displayed. [18:47] sorry, my bad [18:47] jeagoss (jef@173.172.195.32) joined ##slackware. [18:49] Same results. [18:49] do you have tetex installed? [18:49] I think so, but let me verify that. [18:50] tetex-3.0 is installed [18:50] xover (~xover@host86-150-128-26.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:50] ajna: you did get root with "su -" right? (notice the dash, it's intentional!) [18:51] I did. [18:51] show me your $PATH, please [18:52] /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin: No such file or directory [18:52] :D [18:52] "No such file or directory" is there as well? [18:52] yeah. That's odd. [18:53] odd is a nice way of putting it :) [18:53] Just took the short cut to avoid keeping you waiting again. typed $PATH at xterm [18:53] cut and paste [18:53] matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [18:54] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:b::541b) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:54] you need /usr/share/texmf/bin in your PATH, otherwise the build will fail [18:54] you'll have to fix your system (or override the PATH manually, but that's...cheating) [18:55] I wonder what went wrong. This is basically a clean install. [18:55] Upgraded a few packages, but I haven't done much of anything else yet. [18:56] I'll modify the $PATH e-var [18:56] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [18:57] anyway, I'm off to bed. Good luck! :) [18:58] okay. Weirder, that path just magically appeared [18:58] sorry, this is linux - things don't happen on their own ;) [18:58] See you later. pprkut [18:58] Nope. [18:59] I just don't know what I did. Pulled a few packages, installed a few updated packages. I'll have to do it all again to see what happened. lol [18:59] First, I'll figure out how to fix it. [19:00] ah, slackboy is back [19:00] lovely [19:01] cmk_zzz (~martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [19:01] geezer (~prof@dsle235.ody.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:02] ():{:|:} [19:02] lolwut (~lolwut@c-24-21-78-21.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:02] HoldMyPocket (~schoward@63.241.180.212) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:04] Well, I guess I'll give this a rest for a few minutes. Other build issues to resolve. [19:04] Thanks for the help. [19:06] Any chess players present? Planning to run Stockfish on Slackware. Any opinions of it? [19:06] Just curious. [19:09] its working [19:09] I play but no experience with stockfish [19:09] I have it running in jose [19:09] and with xboard too [19:09] ajna: du hier? o.o [19:09] stybla (stybla@78.110.208.218) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:09] ente? [19:09] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [19:09] ajna: sorry, I probably confused you with someone else with that nick [19:09] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] okay. No problem. [19:10] except you're the same ajna as on swissirc [19:10] No. That must be someone else. [19:10] okay, sorry then [19:11] cmk_zzz - how do you like it? [19:11] I'm no expert on engines, but it seems to work pretty good. I prefer it over Togo. Don't ask me why though:) [19:12] Action: ente is bad at chess and not into games :( [19:12] cmk_zzz, the next time i see you paste a fork bomb like that, it will be the last thing you will do in ##slackware for a long long time [19:12] playing chess on a pc is a good way to learn because its hard to find people to play [19:12] I hear it's rated over 3000. I'm just hoping it's not like so many other computer chess engines that play the same moves over and over again as if they don't have massive opening books. [19:13] nachox: sorry it was meant to go in my vmware window [19:13] heh, it's over 9000 :D [19:13] Dominian (dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: Quit: brb [19:13] Skywise: try free internet chess club [19:14] geezer (~prof@dsle235.ody.ca) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:14] There's a local club here, but all of that speed chess is screwing in tournaments. Also, the club members aren't grandmasters. I can handle most of them without much effort. Doesn't help me improve. [19:14] Dominian (dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) joined ##slackware. [19:14] I'm certain Stockfish will hand me my head 10/10 times. lol [19:14] as obvious as it may seem, chess.com is actually a great site for hot live chess action [19:14] ajna: if it wouldn't I would be impressed [19:15] at least last time i tried it. has been a while. [19:15] teckan (~teckan@p5B0CC409.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [19:15] So, you're using xboard with polyglot? [19:16] yes, but I never play against the engines (it is depressing...) I only use them for analysis and then I use jose [19:17] I can understand that. lol [19:18] Personally, I like being beaten by a computer. It saves me from being beaten by the local 6 year old that frequents the club. lol [19:18] zux (~zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:18] stupidly, i did a "rm -rf /var/log/*", deleting my /var/log/packages with it. is there any way of generating the contents of that directory? (i am unable to use slackpkg right now, being that the reason why i noticed that the removing action was not that wise) [19:18] teckan, reinstall slackware/a/aaa*txz [19:19] There's a master in the next town training a generation of Kramniks. They're young, but they're extremely tough. [19:19] ajna: yeah, that feeling is never good [19:19] ajna: cool, I will never be very good I am afraaid [19:19] Are you rated? [19:20] only swedish rating (1950) [19:20] and that was a while back [19:20] haven't played irl for 5 years [19:21] You're over me. I haven't played in years either. I think my floor is 1700 [19:21] well if the floor is 1700 it is good:) My ceiling is probably around there somewhere [19:22] slaker (~slaker@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:22] althought I have played over 15000 blitz games on icc (tragic isnt it?) [19:22] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:22] teckan: i think you're screwed [19:22] sahk0, i think so too. :( [19:22] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] i guess i need to reinstall the whole thing [19:23] Delahunt, that does not change anything [19:23] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.57.187) joined ##slackware. [19:23] icc isn't bad. [19:23] I use to hang out at chess21 but icc bought them out years ago. [19:23] its the content of /var/log/packages/ that matters not the dir [19:24] That was a bad day. chess21 was as good as icc for play but it was free. [19:25] le_prof (~prof@dsle235.ody.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:25] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [19:25] cmk_zzz (~martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:25] damn. Still one required program short of a proper build. [19:25] sahk0, so there is no way of regen it ? :| [19:25] joannis (~joannis@net-80-253-189-213.beltav.hu) joined ##slackware. [19:26] teckan: not that i know of [19:28] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-2751e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [19:28] damn me [19:28] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [19:28] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:28] i guess if someone knew a way would have already spoken up [19:29] s/up/ [19:29] down [19:29] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:29] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] i guess so [19:30] thnks anyway [19:30] teckan (~teckan@p5B0CC409.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:32] Have a build script complaining about conflicting types for 'getline'. [19:33] updated glibc today while upgrading g++ to 4.4.3 (required). [19:36] lolwut (~lolwut@c-24-21-78-21.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@74.86.163.22 expired. [19:39] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@74.86.163.22' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:40] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@p3m/member/epoch expired. [19:40] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [19:40] ##slackware: mode change '-bb *!*@p3m/member/epoch *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:40] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.57.187) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:41] le_prof (prof@dsle235.ody.ca) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:41] problem solved [19:47] john_dee (~id@95-29-13-177.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:48] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds [19:48] bradhex (1000@c-98-193-248-168.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:49] fosforo_ (~fosforo@187.15.57.187) joined ##slackware. [19:50] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [19:53] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:55] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [19:57] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] zux (~zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) joined ##slackware. [19:59] v4nelle (~van@79.103.136.171.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:59] bradhex (1000@c-98-193-248-168.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:59] bradhex (1000@c-98-193-248-168.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:00] eido (~eido___@ool-457e2532.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:03] TheNexT (thenext@c-68-81-156-145.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:04] danklesm1n (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:04] danklesm1n (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:05] can lilo be used to boot windows 7 on the same drive? i recently bought a ssd and had put slack on sda1 and then later put 7 which made sda2 and sda3. currently the only way i can oot both is by having another drive and edited that drives lilo to point to sda for 7 and sda1 for slack [20:07] jeev (~email@174.139.9.42) left irc: Changing host [20:07] jeev (~email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [20:07] you mean on the same file system [20:08] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] cadmium (mike@217.194.139.22) left ##slackware. [20:09] correct i have seperated the ssd into three partitions but 7 writes to the mbr so i am not sure how to get lilo on the same drive and use it to boot 7 [20:10] mohaa (~nome@92.49.78.161) joined ##slackware. [20:11] googling around i really only get lilo and stitch results so i was curious if it is even possible [20:12] i wouldn't think that window can use any linux fs [20:12] I don't know about Win7 but previosu WIndows were generally only happy dual booting when they wer installed first [20:12] and windows doesn't store user file permissions [20:13] ok sorry not what i mean. i believe 7 wrote sda2 and sda3 as ntfs and the sda1 is etx3 [20:13] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [20:13] yeah [20:13] thats what its gonna be [20:13] there isn't a common fs [20:14] which is fine i have no problem with windows not being able to read my etx3, what i am curious about is how to take the pata drive out of the mix [20:14] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [20:14] currently i have a pata that has slack on it also that points to sda1 for slack on the ssd and sda for windows on the ssd (which then looking in the mbr) [20:15] escaflown (~elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] lilo should detect and add the windows partition automatically, just install to the mbr [20:16] escaflown (elom@S010600256479351c.fm.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [20:16] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] really because i thought 7 was different and relied on the mbr unlike previous versions of windows [20:17] i don't know [20:17] GooseYArd (~GooseYArd@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] i haven't paid any attention to win7 but thats how you could do it before [20:18] maybe theres a windows channel to help with dual boot [20:19] i just don't have any idea about windows7 [20:20] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@168-103-57-190.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [20:22] How can I write a function in one bash script, use it in another? [20:22] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:22] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] byteframe: i think 'source ' is what you want, but better to try #bash [20:23] hackedhead, you're right. I'll try check out source. thanks [20:23] byteframe: make the function in a file that only contains functions and soure it into any bash file you want [20:24] XGizzmo, I was trying to 'sh' it instead. [20:24] Action: GooseYArd giggles [20:24] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:25] lolwut (~lolwut@c-24-21-78-21.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:25] i bet he didn't type it with quotes the first time [20:25] source seems to work. [20:25] ajna (ajna@68.235.239.108) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:34] hackedhead (~hackedhea@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:35] nix_chix0r (~hellokitt@97-127-223-3.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:41] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: œ¿»Î½ »±²­ [20:44] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:32] lol hi :) [21:32] salutations Axtroz [21:33] How're you doing :) [21:33] butterball (~62e7bfe7@gateway/web/freenode/x-adfpfpeecpillmgw) joined ##slackware. [21:33] not bad. you ? [21:35] When using slackbuild for 64bit.. Do I need to get all the tar files and install them instead of 1 for 32bit? [21:35] fine... if we exclude the headache sendmail is giving me :D [21:36] butterball: the process is pretty much the same as it is for 32 bit. the exception being you must edit the arch line in the slackbuild [21:36] LinuxGuy2009 (~mark@cpe-76-188-74-95.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:37] jeev (~email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [21:37] andarius I was looking at mplayer codec's and there are 3 files for 64 vers 1 for 32... Is there a howto for 64? [21:37] I'm starting to think Im blind. Someone in #linux said I should try slackware so I went and tried to find the ISO on the website and I am somehow not seeing one. [21:37] not sure on mplayer [21:38] LinuxGuy2009: only certain mirrors carry the iso files [21:38] if you're blind we can't help you on irc [21:38] LinuxGuy2009: why dont you pick a mirror from here http://www.slackware.com/getslack/ ? [21:39] and even fewer places carry the dvd isos [21:39] andarius: ty [21:39] the universities tend to [21:39] butterball: mplayer is in slackware64 already [21:39] Damn it! Anyone got any idea why can't I send mail to external mails? [21:40] you'd have to look at your maillogs and see [21:40] I can send locally and I am receiving email from everywhere (local, external) [21:40] as of slackware v13.0 if I recall [21:40] Ok cool yeah it was an incomplete mirror or something. Downloading now. [21:40] horgh_ (horgh@S0106001c101b3b36.vc.shawcable.net) left ##slackware. [21:40] well if you can't send, your isp could be blocking port 25 outbound [21:40] they may want you to use their smtp servers [21:40] can you send to google mail? [21:41] Dont know havent tried that one yet. Though I tried to yahoo and mail.com and even some of my country's famous mails [21:41] andarius: I just finished installing salix 64 [21:41] I get timeouts... [21:41] Axtroz: what happens when you run 'netcat -z -w 3 alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25 && echo ok || echo fail' ? [21:41] your ip might also be blacklisted [21:42] since its a customer ip and not a commercial one [21:42] fire|bird: good good, thanks. [21:42] Axtroz google mx record lookup then check your ip.. it will show you if it is blacklisted [21:43] ananke: I get netcat: command not found, I'll install it and try again in a few moments [21:43] Axtroz: you may also try 'nc' instead of 'netcat'. i forget which one slackware has [21:43] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:44] ananke: nc worked, but gave me a timeout and a fail. [21:45] butterball: thanks for the advice, my IP is not blacklisted [21:45] Axtroz: your isp is the likely cause of it. most big isps do that these days [21:45] trying to cut down on spam [21:46] simply use their MX to relay [21:46] Is CD1 a live CD with an installer I assume? [21:46] I was reading some tutorials on how to set up sendmail and stumbled upon a way to run sendmail on port 2525 to avoid this [21:46] and use iptables to redirect to port 25 [21:47] but sendmail stopped receiving mail with that setup [21:47] Axtroz: it won't help you, since it's not about receiving e-mail [21:47] what port you run your own sendmail doesn't change the fact that you have to contact other servers [21:47] LinuxGuy2009: Slackware has no LiveCD, CD1 is the base system [21:48] ananke: I think I understand.. Language barrier is kind of a problem to me... :S [21:48] Axtroz: Does it install pretty easily? Point and click? [21:49] point and click? you've been had [21:50] Slackware has no graphical installer. It comes with a very friendly and self-explanatory setup program though. [21:50] If you got some basic Linux knowledge you wont have any problems at all [21:51] If you'd like to stick with slack I suggest you download the DVD and perform a full installation [21:52] Could someone explain what does "reverse DNS record" means? [21:52] 21:19 LinuxGuy2009> Schroeder: Ive never tried slackware. Why would you recomend it to me? 1:19 Schroeder> it's the solution to all your [problems [21:53] yes. you've been had by a troll [21:54] Axtroz, dns translates human readable names into ip addresses, reverse does the opposite and looks up names from an ip address [21:54] Thank you Skywise. [21:54] LinuxGuy2009 (mark@cpe-76-188-74-95.neo.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [21:55] ananke: That guy may be a troll but I have to agree with him... When I switched to slackware back when 12.1 just came out, it did solve all my problems :) [21:56] nathan_ (~nathan@d47-69-182-118.try.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [21:56] nathan_ (nathan@d47-69-182-118.try.wideopenwest.com) left ##slackware. [21:57] Axtroz: yes. call me when it solves world hunger. [21:57] or spouses [21:57] cause i really want that version [21:57] I said MY problems, not WORLD problems :> [21:58] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:58] suid0 (~suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [21:58] sometimes i think my only recourse is to become a hermit in a cave with broadband [21:59] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-63-58.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:02] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) joined ##slackware. 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[22:34] Could someone please test out this stream and give me some feedback? http://190.2.40.57:1234/stream.ogg [22:36] will perl's cpan work on slackware ? [22:36] coolkehon: of course [22:36] :D [22:37] Would it be better to use cpan than sbopkg (aka slackbuilds)? [22:38] guys, i would like to send an email as paissad@mydomain, when i 'm on root account [22:38] echo "msg" | mail -u paissad -s "subject" $mailto [22:38] sp (sp@xmission.xmission.com) joined ##slackware. [22:38] but the command above sends the mail as (root@mydomain) [22:38] pthreat_ (pthreat@201-213-119-136.net.prima.net.ar) left ##slackware. [22:39] paissad, -r is from address [22:40] dive, is that option for mail command ? [22:40] don't see it ... futher i got error [22:40] I use it for mailx [22:41] and mail is a link to mailx [22:42] dive, echo "msg" | mail -r paissad@mydomain -s "subject" $mailto [22:42] well I just checked the man page and it recommends using 'from' variable instead [22:42] actually, i ~r option in manpage, but not -r [22:44] paissad, I just tried it with no error. Which version of mailx and slackware version? [22:45] how did you proceed, maybe i misunderstood something [22:45] echo "test" | mailx -r dive@xxx.co.uk -s "hello" dive@junius [22:46] oh i used mail [22:46] mail is a symlink to mailx so it shouldn't matter I think [22:47] dive, http://pastebin.com/x4GUSWq4 [22:48] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:49] strange... [22:49] are you on slack 13.0? [22:49] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [22:49] nope [22:50] -current [22:50] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-162-84-125-201.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] Heya,folks [22:50] Delahunt (~robert@ip70-188-246-210.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:50] maybe it's change in current then - you will have to in the man page about setting variables like 'from' [22:51] paissad, cat /etc/*vers* [22:52] hi MLanden [22:52] heya,dive....how's it goin' for the....thinks for a second....morning?...:D [22:53] yeah quite early here - I just awoke from the strangest dream [22:53] CaRaMuRu (~caramuru@187.36.128.248) joined ##slackware. [22:54] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.73.81) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:54] lol,dive....just get a cup'o and a smoke and it'll compile...:P [22:55] my thinking exactly :) [22:58] hey [22:58] is there a way to figure out which physical port is which ethX in linux? [22:58] Cann0n_ (~jack@dialup-4.91.96.103.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] other than plugging it into a network configuring each one and trying to ping it? [22:59] i got 8 network ports on a computer and was wondering how to figure out which one is which [23:00] you only need to hook up one at each end [23:00] ? [23:00] is there something that can say if link is active or not? [23:00] If you can find out what drivers are associated with each interface then that should make it easier. I like how FreeBSD handles this: interfaces are named according to what driver is loaded for them. An Intel NIC, for example, may be called "fxp0" because it's using the fxp driver [23:00] se [23:00] yes [23:01] but hook up a cable to the first port [23:01] its all the same driver (else it would have been easy [23:01] you can then try to enable eth0 or eth7 [23:01] Cann0n (~jack@dialup-4.91.101.93.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:02] hmmm let me check that out... where will it say if link is active or not/. [23:02] syslog [23:02] ethtool -p eth0 5 [23:02] or /var/log/messages [23:02] MOVNTDQA: try that ^^ [23:03] ah [23:03] ok will try [23:03] Seethings and salavations...oops...Greetings and salutations,andarius [23:03] lol [23:03] greetings and salutations MLanden [23:03] Cann0n_ (~jack@dialup-4.91.96.103.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:05] omg it worked [23:05] thank you very much [23:05] yw [23:06] i know there is loop mount but there needs to be drive mount [23:07] that way if i dd copy a drive (i only do this when i want a factory image of a computer) i can mount it read-only as a drive and then its partitions [23:10] why not dd the partitions instead of the whole drive then [23:10] the point is that i already did it a specific way [23:11] and i don't really want to get into playing with offset mounting [23:11] allrighty then [23:12] raph0x88 (~raph0x88@189.38.249.169) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:13] gades (~gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:14] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:15] zux (~zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) joined ##slackware. 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[23:28] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:28] Incredibly esoteric question here. Often when discussing network services, we'll refer to them in all caps: (i.e. HTTP, FTP, NFS, NNTP, etc.). But what about rsync servers? Should it just be 'rsync' or should it too be capitalized as "RSYNC"? [23:29] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:29] I'd say it should be RSYNC [23:29] The others are in caps becasue they are abbreviations - the first letter of each word in the name [23:29] just rsync or Rsync [23:29] tavl (~tavl@189.70.213.146) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:30] hmmm... good point there [23:30] it is :) [23:30] Also, the others are ASCII; they can be accessed via telnet. [23:33] another abbreviation :) [23:34] tavl (~tavl@189.70.213.146) joined ##slackware. [23:35] brokedown (~not@unaffiliated/dedhed) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:39] MS3FGX (~MS3FGX@c-71-225-217-67.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:39] brokedown (~not@unaffiliated/dedhed) joined ##slackware. [23:41] StonedSlacker (1000@cpe-024-074-031-049.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:44] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: straight hacked you with telnet on a 486, how ya feel now :o [23:45] Axius (~hi@92.84.14.222) joined ##slackware. [23:46] Dreamwalker (~dreamwalk@87-98-237-72.ovh.net) left irc: Disconnected by services [23:46] Axius (~hi@92.84.14.222) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:47] exbio (~ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:50] CaRaMuRu (~caramuru@187.36.128.248) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:51] If I don't fall asleep I should have my system right where I like it for a clean install. I have hard drive space to burn and I'd like to make a copy of the entire install for a back up. Will that work as easy as i sounds? What's the easiest way to do that? [23:52] Chameleon (Chameleon@CPE0016179aa1df-CM00122540797c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:52] hi all [23:53] CaRaMuRu (~caramuru@187.36.128.248) joined ##slackware. [23:54] Wus crackin' Chameleon? [23:54] can some one point me in the direction to a channel that i can ask question about Game Dev [23:55] StonedSlacker, looking for help on game dev setup [23:55] Hello, what is the name of the vnc/rdp application in slackware? [23:56] Maybe #gamedev [23:56] on gree node? [23:56] free node? [23:56] Freenode, yep [23:56] butterball: krdc if you installed it with KDE [23:56] dont know about others [23:56] Try it, /join #gamedev [23:56] Axtroz: ty [23:56] 70 users [23:56] More than welcome :) [23:57] StonedSlacker: I havent tested this myself, but perhaps dd will do the trick for backing up the entire system partition [23:58] though be carefull while playing with dd... that thing is dangerous [23:58] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [23:58] Hmmm... Now that you've mentioned it, I have a spare partition and I always wanted to try this out, stand by for results :) [23:58] Axtroz: dd is one of those commands that baffles me beyond my normal level of baffledness. I would need an example [23:58] CaRaMuRu (~caramuru@187.36.128.248) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:59] butterball: rdesktop [23:59] Axtroz: Standing..erm, sitting, by :^) [00:00] --- Wed Feb 24 2010