[00:00] _alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:01] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] 21:47 < chopp> antiwire: fscking git19! /me waits patiently for 2.6.31 [00:03] yeah, i can see that you're patient :P [00:03] I can't remember the last time it was git rev'd this far [00:06] antler: I've been waiting way too long for ath5k/AP mode [00:06] Yeah me too, and I've thrown lots of gear around my room too [00:07] haha [00:07] chopp: oh, i remember that from way back. [00:08] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-22.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:09] Do any of you guys have local user/hacker/make stuff groups? [00:10] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:11] I keep trying to find one in my area but it's bleak. This area is mostly an art community [00:11] im trying to compile krusader-1.90.0 in kde4, at checking status return: [00:11] hacker kittens cry here [00:11] nope, I only use vbox for my SBo submissions due to using -current [00:11] checking for kde-config... not found Cconfigure: error: The important program kde-config was not found! Please check whether you installed KDE correctly. [00:12] what I should redefine in slackbuild script? [00:12] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:12] powtrix: That suggests that the tool you are trying to build has not been ported to kde4 yet [00:12] It is now kde4-config [00:13] You can try installing the kde3 compat package [00:13] krusader-2.0.0 works only in kde4 but the slackbuild doesnt compile it [00:13] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjdlkja@68.197.241.235) left irc: [00:13] ang (n=ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] powtrix: all you did was try to use the 2.0.0 sources with the SBo build script, I guess? [00:13] at ./configure - file not found ... looking in src dir it should run cmake .. [00:14] ... [00:14] like i eluded to, kde4 builds are different [00:14] cmake builds require different steps [00:14] the SBo scripts are designed for 12.2 which uses kde3.5.10 [00:15] hm do you know any slackbuild script that do it w/ cmake style? [00:15] you can make one by using examples up at SBo that already support cmake [00:16] you will need to edit them and probably a lot [00:16] ssss4s [00:18] My friend just got back from jamacia and he brought me a few bottles of 12yr rum directly from the Appleton Estate [00:18] I'm stoked! [00:18] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:22] I never did like rum. I allways prefered whisky (rarely) although I seem to remember a few 26oz gibsons finest episodes :P [00:23] Action: CaptObviousman had a bad experience with rum and doesn't drink it any more [00:24] Go gibsons! [00:26] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [00:26] CaptObviousman: Oh please, do tell. [00:27] I'll hack your g1bs0n [00:27] You better hide your garbage filez [00:29] why would you want to cut my 6 string you insensitive clod?!?! [00:29] ;) [00:29] Hey agentc0re. :) [00:29] The world's oceans depend on it [00:31] firebird Heya! [00:31] antiwire: w.t...f?! [00:32] deco (n=chatzill@adsl-69-108-74-161.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:32] where or how do you download packages in slackware? [00:32] well let's see [00:32] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:33] Official packages can be found on the mirrors. [00:33] it involved an empty house, a handle of rum, and poor judgement [00:33] I was sick for two days [00:34] and there's a nice area of the carpet in the family room that collects dirt in a different manner than the rest of the room [00:34] in a vomit-shaped outline [00:34] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:34] Well at least you didn't spill the rum *phew* [00:34] antiwire: where are those mirrors located? [00:35] deco: Start by looking at slackware.com [00:35] deco: /topic [00:35] CaptObviousman: Hrmm... Doesn't sound that bad. Would you rather vomit on yourself or shit yourself? [00:35] agentc0re: thanks [00:35] and then go here http://slackbook.org/ and here http://slackbook.org/ and here http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php and here http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [00:36] oops! [00:36] antiwire: thanks [00:36] http://www.slackbasics.org/html/ [00:36] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "leaving" [00:37] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] I'd rather not be deathly ill for two days [00:37] I prefer to make it outside over barfing or pooping on myself [00:37] I've had some more exotic or expensive rums without shuddering, but the cheap stuff is right out [00:38] I almost got an entire liter down [00:38] but it doesn't count if it doesn't stay down [00:38] That's right, there's no crying in baseball. [00:39] axius (n=tty@92.84.30.252) joined ##slackware. [00:39] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.82.210) joined ##slackware. [00:40] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.82.210) left irc: Client Quit [00:40] after trying to run the newly installed slackbuild , it will tell me what dependencys are missing ? [00:40] nope. [00:40] Are you sure you want to use slackware? [00:41] then how will i know what's missing? [00:41] ganeshix (n=chatzill@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:41] You read the requirements [00:41] oh ok [00:41] ganeshix (n=chatzill@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:41] The same way the Debian devs know how to do if for you... [00:41] if/it [00:41] ok [00:42] antiwire: where can i see the requirements ? [00:43] only we don't make a general mess like debian did with openssl ;) [00:43] If you were use Slackbuilds.org and there are build time deps required it is all right there in the readme... [00:43] deco: a slackbuild is not the same thing as a slackware package [00:43] a slackbuild is the various files and scripts used to build and package software into a slackware package [00:44] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.72.46) joined ##slackware. [00:44] ah , so you would still need to download the source right? [00:44] yes [00:44] I'm not sure that the slackware packages really say their dependency's if they have any... /stick-foot-in-mouth --if-necessary [00:44] http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [00:44] agentc0re: no foot eating needed, they don't. [00:44] Action: rworkman goes back to pushing an update [00:45] thanks, so it's all about compiling in slackware ? like gentoo .. ? [00:45] i would like to know how to proceed in order to add something into /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc when i make a SlackBuild .. i fear that installpkg overwrite the orginal /etc/profile [00:45] but the SBo build scripts docs for each build tell you. However, if people just read the documents that come with nearly all source tarballs, most of the time any deal breaker build deps are listed. [00:46] dunno if i'm clear enought ^^ [00:46] -t [00:46] paissad: /etc/profile.d/whatever.{c,}sh [00:46] Action: rworkman goes back to pushing an update [00:46] :) [00:46] rworkman, ok thaks :-) [00:46] push it baby push it. I'm waiting with my rsync [00:47] Thats what she said [00:47] [in bed] [00:47] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:48] so instead of searching via the cli in a repository for an app, you just look it up at slackbuilds right ? [00:48] well anything that isn't part of slackware. [00:48] rworkman, humm, sorry, /etc/profile.d/whateverr*** is not what i meant .. [00:48] deco: yep or use sbopkg, which can act like a front end if you want. [00:49] just for /etc/profile [00:49] antiwire: theres da push [00:49] deco: Most of us use slackbuilds.org and if it is not there we build our own package [00:49] antiwire: from upstream sources right? [00:49] well..yes [00:49] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:49] paissad: why would you want to add something to /etc/profile? [00:50] where else would we get sources? [00:50] BP{k}, into a slackbuild, i would like to add automatically a directory to the PATH for example [00:51] SBo doesn't even host sources, all the .info and links to source archives are just that, links to the main sites (there are a few odd exceptions) [00:51] paissad: rworkman already answer that question for you. While that was not what you meant, that *is* the correct way to handle things. [00:51] oh, ok, sorry then [00:52] i just don't understand :( [00:53] why firefox takes 540 megs of ram after a day [00:53] jeev: it's caching all your goat pr0n for faster access [00:53] haha [00:53] why you calling your mom and aunt goats? [00:53] paissad: obviously ;) and that's the problem :) [00:54] Mon Jun 22 22:53:02 MDT 2009 [25464]: ChangeLog.txt has been updated, starting mirror of slackware64-current. [00:54] haha [00:54] paissad: if you had looked at /etc/profile in any way shape or form , you would have seen that it parses/appends *any* scripts that are in /etc/profile.d/*.sh. [00:55] paissad: have a look for example at /etc/profile.d/qt.sh and see how that works [00:56] Is it September already? [00:56] wake me up, when september ends. [00:56] Action: Dominian is already running the updates :p [00:57] BP{k}, ok, i see, it's quite obvious, i did not read /etc/profile before ... that's why .... but if i would have to add something to some kind of file not really specific .... is there any way to proceed ... [00:57] paissad: append to BP{k}'s statement: it runs any scripts that are executable in /etc/profile.d [00:57] i was just thinking for any kind of file [00:57] Action: rworkman goes back to pushing an update :) [00:57] :) [00:58] BP{k}, i got it .... :-) .. i found a solution [00:59] i do a cat > of the original file to a new file and i add what i want 'cat >> whatever' to the new file [00:59] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-215-49.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [01:00] Action: BP{k} looks at pom. 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[01:22] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:24] so all apps are compiled in slackware? [01:24] lokl?? [01:24] lol [01:24] i would think so [01:27] There are some binary repackages but like any distribution, the rest is compiled source or shell scripts [01:27] hello al [01:27] l [01:27] Action: jeev is doing a pxe slackware64-current install again [01:27] i'm trying nvidia stupid raid rom shit now [01:27] fakeraid [01:28] true [01:28] if you want real ata/sata raid use 3ware [01:28] i was using mdadm and it was PMSing [01:28] antiwire, it's a fun box at the datacenter [01:28] dual dualcore opteron 285SE i think it is [01:28] I use mdadm on my home server [01:28] with disks attached to a promise sata card [01:28] you're awesome y0 [01:28] works great [01:28] can I have a cookie now? [01:28] yea [01:29] what were you thinking when you bought an nvidia based server anyway? [01:29] stupid. that's what i was thinking [01:29] and i got 3 [01:29] it was used :) [01:29] one is working fine at the datacenter, has 2x1.5tb's in it for storage [01:29] 1 is at the office, sitting there [01:29] and this one is the one there [01:31] axius (n=tty@92.84.30.252) left irc: Client Quit [01:31] i dont get it [01:31] setup detected both drives [01:31] i thought i set up mirroring in the controller [01:33] Action: chopp wishes he could afford a 3ware 9650SE [01:33] chopp, guess what i have ;) [01:33] 01:00.0 RAID bus controller: 3ware Inc 9650SE SATA-II RAID (rev 01) [01:33] wee [01:34] edman007: I know damn you. You're the one that got me goin on them. [01:34] :D [01:35] antiwire: where can i get binary packages? [01:35] you're all wack [01:35] deco: binary packages of what [01:37] jeev: well antiwire mentioned that there are some binary packages to my question "are all apps compiled in slackware" [01:38] duno [01:38] i'd think the only binary things are proprietary drivers [01:38] especially on slizackwizare [01:38] jeev, k thanks [01:38] black_fox (i=hireadan@adty244.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: [01:38] dont take my word for it [01:38] i won't :P [01:39] firefox is a binary repackage [01:40] deco: really, stop this and start reading all of the documentation we've given you [01:40] you're confused in a most epic way with all your debian knowledge [01:40] debian [01:40] my friend is forced to get a debian server [01:40] im dreading managing it [01:40] antiwire: i did just curious about the binary packages for example that firefox binary where can i get it? [01:41] sos_ (i=1000@117.200.62.129) joined ##slackware. [01:41] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:41] welcome to the "tard" color in wu_nickcolor.pl [01:42] deco: you have it. it comes with the official slackware package set... [01:42] firefox is part of the distribution [01:42] chopp: Ubuntu Brown? :P [01:42] that only served as an example of a binary repackage situation [01:43] ok the nvidia shit is telling me mirroring is working fine [01:43] antiwire: ah ok, sorry i really don't have slackware installed just trying to get as much info about it before i do [01:43] firebird619: nope, black same as my background :P [01:43] lol, nice. :) [01:43] is it normal for sda and sdb to both show up in the logs and fdisk shows both as valid drives? [01:43] what happened to mirroring [01:43] well that explains a lot... [01:43] deco, install it on something temporary man [01:43] jeev: the disks still exist [01:43] it's really the best. [01:43] antiwire, ahh maybe i need to check for something else in dev [01:43] jeev: even with md0 using sda and sdb the disks themselves still exist [01:44] jeev : i will try it in virtual box [01:44] yea, DUH [01:44] antiwire, now that's insulting [01:44] how the hell would you manage it without sd* [01:44] i don't know, you tell me then wtf you were getting at [01:44] lol [01:44] jeev: is it normal for sda and sdb to both show up in the logs and fdisk shows both as valid drives? jeev: what happened to mirroring [01:44] see what i mean? [01:45] you crack head [01:45] whatever you said, i dont care [01:45] you're the crack head, crack head [01:45] but the md + sd comment was retarded heh [01:45] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [01:45] wat's command (for "run program") to start Thunar with root privileges ( su -Thuar is not working ) [01:45] sudo maybe? i dont like sudo [01:45] sos_: su -c thunar [01:45] ah [01:45] thaks antiwire [01:46] ok so, nvidia rom crap says the mirror is active [01:46] sos_: YDIW [01:46] but i dont see any other device. [01:46] i just see the two devices [01:46] sos_: 1. You don't need a gui file manager with root privs. [01:46] sos_: 2. If you do need a gui file manager with root privs, refer to #1. [01:46] i want to delete a file from tmp [01:46] hey, I only answer the question and makah dat pie! [01:46] Nick change: Yudha_HT -> yht|tugas_luar [01:47] haha [01:47] sos_: You're running Slackware. Open a terminal. [01:47] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [01:47] deco (n=chatzill@adsl-69-108-74-161.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:48] peer got him, thank god [01:48] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x4dd4743a.adsl.cybercity.dk) left irc: Client Quit [01:48] rworkman, any idears? [01:49] jeev: nope. My only experience with raid is with a 3ware card. I agree that something is amiss though :) [01:49] damn you 3ware affording sob's [01:50] hehe [01:52] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:52] hmm, i make my /home a lvm partition when i installed salckware, i just would like to know if it's possible to make another directory like mnt or tmp lvm partitions or is it too late ? [01:53] icpu (n=ameer@cpe-24-29-194-107.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [01:53] bah [01:53] this server doesn't even have a riser card [01:53] those 8port supermicro's are leet [01:54] DeeeeP_ (n=ngomes@81.193.100.94) joined ##slackware. [01:54] rawr [01:54] i hate kvm over IP [01:54] but i'm glad it's fast [01:55] stop whining! [01:55] i mean i have it, not it's fast [01:55] wtf was i thinking [01:55] stop it! [01:55] DeeeeP (n=ngomes@81.193.100.94) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:55] antiwire, dont hate cause i have 64bit [01:56] my UPS just went click click [01:56] Action: chopp looks over at his lame backup server, and stabs his keyboard again. [01:57] suckers [01:57] antiwire: mine does that here on these overloaded circuits everytime I open my fridge. :P [01:58] this nvidia raid shit is pissing me off [01:58] err no, actually it's when I turn on my printer [02:00] i partitioned sda, fdisk -l shows invalid partition in sdb [02:00] so if it was mirroring, it would've mirrored that. [02:01] im gonna switch pxe over to freebsd and see what happens there [02:01] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:02] say an atari emulator [02:02] stella ? [02:03] stella! [02:04] found my atari roms :) [02:04] wait, what was the question? :) [02:04] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:04] yes it was a question :s [02:05] slackbuilds.org has builds for stella and z26... z26 won't build on x86_64 though [02:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [02:05] Hey Urchlay, how's it going? [02:05] oh noes [02:05] hey firebird [02:05] just got back from open mic, had a good night [02:05] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426279.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:05] cool. [02:06] This the same place as that one other time you shared the pic from? [02:06] yah [02:06] Did you get your bass fixed too? [02:06] yep [02:06] shoot down the Messerschmitt Luftwaffe [02:06] though I went ahead & took the 5-string [02:07] accessibility/easystroke: Added..sounds like something I need..too bad I don't let kde on my boxen [02:07] (the 4-string is road-ready now though) [02:07] Urchlay [02:07] jeev [02:07] so you bored a lot of people? [02:07] heh [02:07] there was one girl in the audience at least who wasn't bored [02:07] o0o0o [02:07] did you hook it up [02:08] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:08] morning [02:08] greetings tewmten [02:08] ut oh [02:08] go back to sleep tewmten [02:08] she came right up to the stage & danced right in front of me, made me get distracted & miss a couple notes :) [02:08] dude i just snoozed 1½h [02:08] Urchlay: lol. :) [02:08] im late for work now hehe [02:08] jeev: I probly could have hooked up with her, but eh, talked to her, she's got 5 kids, that's kinda too many... [02:08] Urchlay: did she have big titties? [02:09] sell them [02:09] thed kids [02:09] not *huge* but reasonable for her frame, at least [02:09] child labour, a mans best friend [02:09] indeed [02:09] Hey frullet, how's it going? [02:09] firebird619: doing well man yourself [02:10] doing great, thanks. :) [02:10] Urchlay: 5 kids? Sounds like she enjoys something you wanted. :D [02:11] rworkman: I have no desire to be her next baby-daddy... [02:11] She's the type of girl who hangs out in bars, (yes, I'm wrong for that), so maybe she wasn't looking for a baby-daddy -- just a 'daddy' [02:11] eh, she's still married to the previous one, even. Not sure why she *told* me that, but she is [02:12] Action: rworkman reminds himself that he met his wife in a frat house. [02:12] whoa [02:12] Yep, at a party :) [02:12] been together how long now? [02:12] Since 2002; married in 2004 [02:12] nice [02:12] i think tewmten meant he'd buy the kids [02:13] ha [02:13] why is mountd denying [02:13] what the dilly [02:13] jeev: you have to get it excited, take it out for dinner, whisper into its ear... you can't just go trying to mount it when it's not ready :) [02:14] ahh there [02:14] see? foreplay is the key... [02:14] duh [02:14] i'm the king of that stuff man [02:14] just kiding [02:14] me_ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [02:14] -bash: /sbin/foreplay: Permission denied [02:14] d'oh! [02:15] hello [02:15] yes [02:15] sell me the children! [02:15] hmmm, mibbit banned on freenode... http://blog.freenode.net/2009/06/new-freenode-webchat-and-why-to-use-it/ [02:16] hey Camarade_Tux, how are you? [02:16] say a atari game please [02:16] yo firebird619, fine, and you ? [02:16] Action: dchmelik drives the trans am that firebird619 is on to Comandante Tux (Camarade_Tux) [02:17] powtrix: Combat? [02:17] Camarade_Tux: doing great, thanks. [02:17] eh, that's 2-player only. Try Super Breakout [02:17] dchmelik: WHAT, you aren't paying attention? I rolled off about 100 miles back. [02:17] oh, sorry [02:17] powtrix: Asteroids is always a good one [02:17] you didn't hear the thud? [02:17] :P [02:18] I am on 10 channels currently ;) [02:18] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:18] Tux got promoted to Commandante? Tell him Field Marshall Urchlay sends his congratulations [02:18] lol [02:19] (heh, I can't even spell it, should be "Marshal") [02:19] spellcheck ftw. :P [02:19] powtrix: Pitfall! ...and Pitfall II [02:19] spellcheck wouldn't help, both are valid words [02:20] Action: firebird619 facepalms [02:20] Urchlay: we were starting a more extreme Slackware revolution earlier [02:20] true [02:20] dchmelik: and then you failed. :D [02:20] hi everybody [02:20] hi confrey [02:20] I do not think so firebird619 [02:20] dchmelik: line up the other distros against the wall, one blindfold, one cigarette, and one bullet each? [02:21] hehe [02:21] 'one cigarette?' [02:21] dchmelik: you ran into me with your trans am and took off you insensitive clod. [02:21] :P [02:21] I meant I put you on there with some glue [02:21] for a prank [02:21] well the glue didn't last long [02:21] ya asteroies is good :) [02:22] traditionally, before you give someone a military execution, you offer 'em a last cigarette... even if they don't smoke, hey, it's an extra 5 minutes to live, and it's too late to worry about cancer anyway [02:22] Urchlay: It'd take 10 bullets just to take care of all the Ubuntards and derivatives. :) [02:22] powtrix: Yar's Revenge! [02:22] firebird619: use a Tommy gun, 30-round drum clip [02:22] dchmelik: thanks for not using a hot glue gun. :D [02:22] Urchlay: there ya go. :) [02:22] as a bonus, you look like a 1930s Chicago gangster (girls dig that, so I'm told) [02:22] Yar who? the person on ST:TNG? [02:23] spook (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:23] dchmelik: eh, no, a little insection thing made of an 8x8 pixel sprite [02:23] er, insecoid [02:23] toid [02:23] dammit [02:23] did I mention I just got back from the bar? [02:24] insecticon? [02:24] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:24] close enough [02:25] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/A2600_Yars_Revenge.png [02:25] damnit i hate stopping smoke cannabis, i get so fucked up dreams [02:25] the little insect-looking thing on the left of the image [02:25] i dreamt i had a microcontroller installed to control my arm, so i was all like bionic and shit, but it hurt like to control my arm, burning in the nerves etc [02:26] tewmten: when you woke up, were you sleeping on your arm with the circulation cut off? [02:26] then i woke up from the pain, and i was lying on my broken collar bone flailing my arm around [02:26] ehhh [02:26] ugh the pain [02:26] when did the collar bone break? [02:26] three weeks ago [02:26] ouch [02:27] if you got a broken collar bone, I'd think you'd smoke more, not less... [02:27] nah, cannabis is a crappy painkiller for broken bones [02:27] Urchlay: looks like a cool game. 'Slackware-OS Prime you have to stop the Microsoft Insecticon Decepticon.' 'Okay, Bashmblebug.' [02:28] me__ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [02:28] lol [02:28] lol I like Beetlebug [02:29] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: "reboot" [02:30] hmmm. Ever seen one of these? http://www.seriouswheels.com/1960-1969/1963-Volkswagen-Beetle-Vandetta-SA.htm [02:31] lol [02:31] bastard child of a bug and a SUV [02:31] http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3064/pow20090623032838.png [02:32] guitar player in my band drives one, the only one in Georgia, and some bitch backed into him while talking on her cell phone [02:32] Urchlay: that is a weird VW [02:32] Nick change: tuvok302 -> tuvok_Shower [02:32] powtrix: I used to play that game and watch my cat try to catch the frogs (dunno why, she would go crazy though) [02:33] heh [02:33] from 1982 [02:33] dchmelik: yah. I told him he should rob a bank and use it for a getaway car. The cops would go "We got an APB on a ...WTF is that thing? I dunno... ummm" [02:33] vaibhav (n=hehe@122.172.52.95) joined ##slackware. [02:33] hi [02:33] 27 years old this game [02:34] aye [02:34] what is the game with 2 helicopters [02:34] eh, Combat has 2 jets or 2 biplanes... [02:35] hey, try my game: http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareID=4056 [02:35] hm not combat [02:36] I wonder if the Galaxian series ROMs are free... [02:36] freely downloadable, not public domain or Free with a capital F though... [02:37] dammit, I can picture the little pixelated helicopter in my head [02:37] canyon bomber, does that have helicopters or planes? [02:37] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:38] http://www.atariage.com/screenshot_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=65 [02:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:38] that? [02:40] me_ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:42] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-22.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:43] that was a good joke 15 mins ago Urchlay [02:43] I had missed it [02:43] shit man [02:43] bsd over pxe is gay [02:43] i forgot how i did it [02:45] whats pxe stand for [02:45] who knows [02:45] pxe is a boot shit [02:45] preboot something environment i think [02:46] preboot execution environment [02:46] pee would have been an awkward acronym [02:46] haha [02:46] no doubt [02:46] heh [02:46] all the sleepers wake up [02:47] "The sleeper must awake!" -- Duke Leto Atreides, not long before he got killed off... [02:47] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:48] bleah, playing scrabble with my dad when I was 8, I used the word "pee"... he stuck another E in front of it (on a damn triple score, too) and it took 10 minutes to convince me "epee" is a real word [02:49] :D [02:49] Hey nix_chix0r [02:49] hi [02:50] my babysitter is starting to slack a bit and its pissing me off and i dont know how to tell her because her mom is my supervisor [02:50] hoho (n=email@190.166.135.120) joined ##slackware. [02:50] r u still down [02:51] firebird619, she's been leaving used diapers in the diaper bag, forgetting to bring me back formula sometimes, forgetting to pack some misc gear liek nail clippers [02:51] and his damn kid shows, [02:51] i shouldn't have to buy two of that crap [02:51] good grief, that isn't good. [02:52] nope [02:52] I'd just talk to her about it, if her mom's the supervisor or not, something needs to be said. [02:53] i wonder if a note in the diaper bag would be a message or if i should confront her personally [02:53] a note probably wouldn't get you to far. [02:53] oh and tonight he wasn't buckled in his car seat good thing jesse checked or he wouldlnt have been buckled [02:53] sounds like you've got yourself in a little predicament. [02:54] her daughter is 14 but she's a more mature than any i've met and is a very nice girl [02:54] hoho: r u incapable of spelling are you [02:54] she's just getting lazy and i don't feel like paying her 100bucks a week for service [02:54] chopp: lol [02:54] i'd pay a dollar more in day care [02:54] dollar more an hour that is [02:55] hi [02:55] slackers [02:55] does anyone know how i can PUT multiple files into a remote dir using ftp ? [02:55] that $1 will really add up. :) [02:55] it does yeah [02:55] especially when a can of formula is 23bucks and lastless than a week:P [02:55] yeah, no doubt. [02:55] he's a feeding machine [02:55] brb porkchops are odne [02:56] ok [02:56] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [02:56] omg porkchops [02:56] qaffq (n=fqa@cpe-24-92-71-240.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:56] Action: lw0x15 om nom nom nom [02:56] s/porkchops/snags/g; [02:57] Action: firebird619 hands lw0x15 a porkchop. [02:57] Nick change: Nosuchnik_aw -> NoSuchNik [02:57] Ekc (n=iskar@79-100-9-231.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [02:57] omg elephant chops! [02:57] why did you feel the need to add /g? [02:57] qaffq: its just how i roll. [02:57] firebird619: cheers mate [02:58] thats what i need this morningj [02:58] <3 [02:58] :) [02:58] because he wants the whole world's chops to turn into snags [02:58] duh [02:58] lol [02:58] frullet, you sound like a process-intensive fruitbag user [02:58] fruitbag? [02:58] lmao [02:59] is that some Wisconsin slang? [02:59] qaffq: and you sound like a basement dweller with nothing better to troll on irc [02:59] ehhh [02:59] I am now unhappy [02:59] is a fruitbag what you get fruitballs in? [02:59] i hope so [03:00] frullet, I don't have a basement! [03:00] Nick change: tuvok_Shower -> tuvok302 [03:00] firefox was crashing on one of those crappy "you must enable JS" sites [03:00] Action: chopp is now known as chopp_shitter [03:01] so I updated it to 3.0.11, and now (a) the same site plays music at me, with no option to stop it (Even if I close the tab with that site in it), and (b) I got font corruption. [03:01] like wtf [03:01] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:01] install noscript [03:01] no [03:02] me__ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:02] don't listen to dartmouth either [03:03] I do have noscript installed [03:03] it gets in your way tooo much :\ [03:03] Urchlay: jerkwire has it out for me. [03:03] only caused problems with I went "temporarily allow all this page" [03:03] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:03] plus, there was some ordeal with its developers doing questionable stuff [03:04] qaffq: did you even read the developer's explanation? [03:04] still I wanna know how I can disable, globally, any attempt to play audio files without me actually clicking something to play them (like noscript does with flash, click-to-activate) [03:04] I don't think you did. [03:04] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [03:05] antiwire, I'd normally think I shouldn't need to do. it takes only one screw-up to lose trust for that kind of problem [03:05] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [03:06] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:06] So you didn't read the explanation. [03:06] chopp [03:06] my friend [03:06] wasup [03:06] That's fine [03:06] is tor/privoxy really totally untraceable? [03:06] (currently) [03:06] dartmouth: only if you do it properly, otherwise you can leak DNS queries (at a minimum) [03:07] how would DNS queries get leaked? [03:07] sos_ (i=1000@117.200.62.129) left irc: "Leaving" [03:07] tor's vulnerability is the exit nodes [03:07] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:07] you dunno who's operating them, but you have to trust them [03:07] dartmouth: They get leaked when network programs don't properly proxy all of a connection [03:08] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [03:08] oh i see [03:08] well [03:08] newer versions of firefox should be safe, right? [03:08] hoho: I'm not you're friend, now beat it [03:08] :) [03:08] i knew u were going to say that [03:09] ^^ [03:09] so, my not-friend [03:09] wasup [03:09] :)) [03:09] you're insane [03:10] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:10] dartmouth: firefox seems to handle it properly but there is a setting you should know about network.proxy.socks_remote_dns [03:10] no he isn't, he's just a friendly guy [03:10] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:10] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:10] damn the second "welcome to the tard color in wu_nickcolor.pl" in one night [03:11] chopp: i thought you added me -last- night. [03:11] dartmouth: the tor button plugin is also something you might want to use with firefox, I think it actually handles that setting now [03:11] hoho you can call me your friend, i don't mind :) [03:11] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] oh ure so sweet dude [03:11] where are you from ? [03:12] sos_ (i=1000@117.200.62.129) joined ##slackware. [03:12] tell us your age and gender while you're at it [03:13] 69/Y/RIGHT HERE BABY [03:13] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:13] antiwire: it does manage that setting, I just verified [03:13] sorry dear, what's 'y'? [03:13] m0nik3r5 (n=sluttySu@c-67-183-212-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:15] i have no ideea [03:15] NoSuchNik: :) [03:15] init[1] :) [03:16] Nick change: init[1] -> tripwire [03:16] antiwire: are you 69 oO [03:17] i like 69 :)) [03:17] NoSuchNik: age ? [03:17] ooh [03:17] yea i got it [03:17] :P [03:17] silly boy :P [03:18] 32 [03:18] NoSuchNik: Not your age antiwire's age [03:18] i like 69 :)) [03:18] but i got what you meant [03:19] :) [03:19] ;) [03:19] spook (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:19] hi spook [03:20] WOW [03:20] finally got it to boot kernel through pxde [03:20] bastards [03:20] pxe [03:20] I think antiwire's "Y" meant "Yes, I have a gender" [03:20] wtf is going on here anyway? troll army invaded while I wasn't looking? [03:21] yes indeed [03:21] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:21] Urchlay: are you playing that silly game ? [03:21] save the princess ? [03:22] eh? what, like mario? [03:22] i wonder who will save the prince :P [03:22] (not playing a game at all right now, no idea what you're talking about...) [03:22] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-131.dial.telus.net) left irc: "SLEEP TIME IS NOW TIME!" [03:22] troll army invaded while I wasn't looking? <- [03:22] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:22] eh, I meant in the IRC channel [03:23] ooh [03:23] :) [03:23] the scrollback makes even less sense than it usually does after 3AM [03:23] its 9:23 here [03:23] Urchlay: its 1:00pm here [03:23] it sounds like you are playing that hexagon map strategy game where you generate armies and take over [03:24] Tue Jun 23 00:24:08 PDT 2009 [03:24] fuck am/pm, 24 hours or GTFO [03:24] Tue Jun 23 09:24:21 CEST 2009 [03:24] warhammer? [03:24] its 12:00 am antiwire ? [03:24] almost 1230 [03:24] if you're some am/pm dork [03:25] you know, I went to an antique store and saw a giant 24-hour analog clock, must have been from world war 2 era [03:25] beat you all ! Tue Jun 23 11:28:13 CEST 2009 [03:25] (yes, my clock is wrongly set) [03:25] lolz [03:25] where 12 would be, was a 0... 180 degrees across was a 12 (for noon) [03:26] thing looked like it weighed a ton, I wanted it, but (a) they wanted $300 and (b) it didn't even work [03:26] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:26] i just watched 3 o'clock high [03:26] on hulu [03:27] CEST? c'est l'heur? [03:27] (is that even close to proper French?) [03:27] Nick change: antiwire -> nagvjver [03:27] Nick change: nagvjver -> antiwire [03:28] Urchlay: I bet it ran off 3phase [03:28] ahaha [03:29] antiwire, freebsd finds that shit as ar0 i think [03:29] weird. [03:29] Urchlay, jeu de mots ! (pun on words ! ) [03:29] Urchlay, nearly : "C'est l'heure ?" [03:29] comrad [03:29] how is the parastroika [03:29] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-174-58.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:29] 'e' missing, and don't forget that space before the question mark ;) [03:29] I know exactly one joke that's sort-of in French, but I dunno if I can tell it without you being able to hear me speaking [03:30] jeev, hey, /us doing fine, and you ? [03:30] Urchlay, well, try ;) [03:30] pissed off [03:30] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:31] Y ? [03:31] someone told me the French Navy's motto is "To the sea! It is time!"... which translates to "a l'eau! c'est l'heure!" (when I pronounce it, it sounds like "Hello Sailor" with a fake French accent...) [03:31] bsd pxe is being gay [03:31] and nvidia isn't being detected [03:31] the gay raid on linux [03:31] as far as i knwo [03:31] i'm installing freebsd now and i'll see what dmesg shows [03:31] eh, and "Hello Sailor" is apparently a traditional gay pickup line (think Village People...) [03:31] well thanks for added pt_BR aspell :) [03:32] 'Allo Saileur <--- about like that [03:32] rhys (n=rhys@cpe-75-185-191-55.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:33] Urchlay, http://korimage.free.fr/tusors/tusors_schwarzy.jpg :) [03:34] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-195-18.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:36] So it really was dartmouth! [03:36] that cheeky bastard [03:37] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [03:37] sos_ (i=1000@117.200.62.129) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:38] does anyone know a linux distro which can operate fine without bash? besides gobolinux [03:39] sadly slackware doesnt seem to be able to do that [03:39] Camarade_Tux: what's the caption translate to in english? [03:39] sahko, slackware can nearly do that [03:39] sahko, and ubuntu does that too [03:39] but I'm not sure it fits the "operate fine" ;) [03:39] pronounced like "twat you sore"? [03:39] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [03:40] Urchlay, "out", usually for a bad joke ;p [03:40] Camarade_Tux: i know sh is dash, but are you sure ubuntu can live without bash? [03:40] s/usually/usually said/ [03:40] sahko, at least it can init [03:40] Camarade_Tux: also the bash slack-desc says it needs it. [03:40] id rather have tsch tbh [03:40] sahko: slackware could get by without bash with only minor changes to the scripts in /etc/rc.d/* [03:41] sahko: you would still need a Bourne-flavored shell though (ksh or something) [03:41] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [03:41] Nick change: NoSuchNik -> Nosuchnik_aw [03:42] but id have to edit stuff. probably not worth it [03:42] sahko, yeah, slackware's init scripts require bash but you could port them without too much effort [03:42] anyway why do you want to not have bash installed at all? You can have bash and tcsh both installed, and use whichever you prefer (it ain't like your less-than-one-meg /bin/bash is going to waste much of your multi-gigabyte drive...) [03:42] sahko, why btw ? [03:43] Urchlay is like me but a bit earlier :P [03:43] sahko, why don't you absolutly want to have bash ? [03:43] i was just wondering. linux systems seem to be too much dependant on it [03:43] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [03:43] for no obvious reason IMO [03:43] unless you're trying to squish a distro down to fit on a tiny flash device or something, in which case, you wouldn't be using stock /etc/rc.d scripts (embedded systems generally need custom scripts) [03:43] sahko, yeah [03:43] sahko: well, will you admit that Linux needed *some* kind of standard shell? [03:44] but I checked and you wouldn't get much performance by switching to anything lighter (I tried with dash) [03:44] Urchlay: sure, not bash though :P [03:44] back [03:44] made a rice noodle dish [03:45] back in the early Linux days, ksh wasn't really free, old-school v7 or BSD /bin/sh wasn't free either. ash didn't exist yet... what should they have standardized on for their Bourne-compatible shell? [03:45] i was wondering cause slack has tsch in a/ so i figured it might be able to replace bash, but no honey [03:45] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-156-251.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] wb nix_chix0r, :D [03:46] tcsh (and real csh) use a completely different, completely un-Bourne-like syntax. Would take a major effort to rewrite all the init scripts with it (and nobody likes scripting in tcsh anyway. Go google for "csh considered harmful" sometime) [03:46] ty [03:47] his present shipped finally something i ordered weeks before his birthday [03:47] ...and even if Pat had chosen to write all the init scripts in tcsh, there are zillions of useful Bourne-flavored shell scripts out there that people would have to be able to run, so he'd have to have /bin/sh be bash or something very close to it... [03:47] (sorry, ranting about shells again? somebody bop me on the head with a mallet next time I get started...) [03:47] on john 5's website you can pay a shit ton o money for a personalized book, poster ect [03:48] Urchlay: isnt tsch the default shell on fbsd though? [03:48] i got him a tab book with the writting "to jesse put it on my tab, john 5" [03:48] jpohl (n=jpohl@99-28-190-105.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:49] gah, my mplayer just got completely unstable ='( [03:49] (self-compiled and on slamd64) [03:50] sahko: it may be the default login shell, but the /etc/rc scripts all use /bin/sh (which in *BSD I think is just called "POSIX shell", but it's basically an updated Bourne) [03:50] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [03:50] that movie dan in real life he keeps saying put it on my tab so it stuck with us [03:50] sahko: go install freeBSD, log in as root, and "rm -rf /bin/sh", then reboot & see how far it gets :) [03:50] heh [03:50] ewwwwwwww, this nvidia raid shit is mediashield heh [03:51] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) joined ##slackware. [03:51] thought it was pretty clever of me to get a tab book , i was going to get that inscribed in his ring [03:51] my slackpkg update is failing on CHECKSUMS.md5.asc: something like "Verification failed" [03:51] firebird619, i must like him enough to spend 2 hours cleaning his brass symbols [03:51] I tried to verify the file manually, but gpg says "public key not found" [03:52] nix_chix0r: yeah, no kidding. :P [03:52] sahko: now I will agree on a modified version of your point: Linux shouldn't depend specifically on bash (scripts should be written portably so they work in bash, ksh, and maybe ash)... but tcsh is completely unrelated to all of the above, no way to write scripts that work in any of those + tcsh [03:53] firebird619, that was a real pain in the rear [03:53] I bet it was [03:53] (unless they're *extremely* simple scripts, dumber than DOS batch files...) [03:53] you rub it with this stuff and it turns black and you have to get it before it dries too much. [03:53] btw totally irrelevant but theres a new libjpeg release planned very soon. after 11 years! :o some of thought it was done http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4A3E96CF.5050507%40pobox.com&forum_name=libjpeg-devel-6x [03:54] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("()"). [03:54] whoa, I thought libjpeg was a fossil :) [03:55] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [03:55] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@97-86-234-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: No route to host [03:56] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [03:58] Have you ever heard of Darth Bane the wise? [03:59] eh, been reading cheezy star wars novels? [03:59] that was in the movie 2 or 3 [03:59] don't remember [03:59] I just said it because Anakan entered [03:59] the emperor said it to Anakin [03:59] honestly the first prequel was so bad I only half paid attention to the rest... [04:01] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-215-49.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:01] I liked Qui-Gonn Jinn maybe the most of any character, but the movies after the one he was in were maybe better... [04:01] however, if you're in the mood for some silly starwars-related stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIcPzuwZS3g&feature=PlayList&p=11A759DFCB377BE4&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=47 [04:01] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:03] "Now, witness the firepower of this fully-armed and operational doggy fence!" [04:03] Well, time for me to get going. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. Take care. [04:03] laterz wimps :) [04:03] heh... I would watch it but I cannot turn it up that loud now... I am visiting my parents and they are asleep... [04:04] firebird619, go to bed now ! it's your momma who tells you ! [04:04] later Camarade_Tux [04:04] see ya Urchlay, dchmelik [04:04] i wana watch fraggle rock [04:04] later nix_chix0r [04:05] nini [04:06] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [04:07] bleah, I should be sleeping instead of lowering my IQ by watching youtube [04:08] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [04:11] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:12] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) joined ##slackware. [04:12] haha [04:12] http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200906/errord/novell_undefined_pic.png [04:12] opensuse fail [04:17] jpohl (n=jpohl@99-28-190-105.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6.1" [04:19] qaffq (n=fqa@cpe-24-92-71-240.wi.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("::"). [04:23] firebird719 (n=firebird@173-18-62-43.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:24] Blended1 (n=Blend@173.5.214.182) joined ##slackware. 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[04:41] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:42] do you know where packages are i havent used linuxin 5 years but amlooking toget back intoit [04:43] http://slacke17.sourceforge.net/ is the one resource i know about. [04:43] adrian_ (n=adrian@host86-137-101-143.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:44] pryda (n=pryda@c83-249-134-70.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [04:44] Anthony__ (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [04:45] Anthony__ (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Client Quit [04:45] aye thank you [04:46] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [04:46] in my udev rules for an interface I have KERNEL=="eth*", does the glob allow that interface to change names depending on intialization? [04:47] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) joined ##slackware. [04:47] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. 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[05:45] :) [05:46] zerox0 (n=zxz@59.93.18.49) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:46] [A] It's because grub is cripled and immature [05:47] sahko: O^o [05:48] tripwire, yep [05:48] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [05:48] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:50] tripwire: quoting slackbook "Slackware holds to the “tried and true” standard for what gets included inside the distribution. While GRUB works well and includes some features that LILO does not, LILO handles all the essential tasks of a boot loader reliably with a proven track record. Being younger, GRUB hasn't quite lived up to that legacy yet." [05:50] http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy.en.html [05:52] vaibhav: XGizzmo sahko Thom1 :) thank you [05:55] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [05:55] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [05:57] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.193.219) joined ##slackware. [06:01] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-139-96.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:04] lilo is simple and mature <3! I see no reason to change, and I love the fact that my distribution doesn't force me to learn a new bootloader [06:07] exaltis (n=exaltis@athedsl-12806.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:07] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [06:09] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:09] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [06:09] joannis (n=joannis@net-80-253-189-213.beltav.hu) joined ##slackware. [06:09] Zozma (n=Winter@75-121-144-49.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [06:10] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [06:12] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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Is there any way to "hybernate" current linux session to the swap partition and boot other non-unix os with possibility to restore session just like it does echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep? I just heard that is possible, but have no idea how to perform that. Thanks! [07:00] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A5A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [07:00] greetings [07:00] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: "Leaving" [07:04] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-183-173.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:04] greetings slackytude [07:05] y0 vaibhav, wassup? [07:06] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-183-173.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [07:06] yoyo slackytude, nothing much just going through with the office work and desperately waiting for the evening to arrive [07:06] you tell me?? [07:07] vaibhav, just arrived for my 4 hours at the office. afterwards its back to university, learning stuff [07:07] its driving me mad :( [07:07] same here... i am being driven mad by this job [07:07] the only good time here is when i go out for smoke :D [07:08] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@62-47-130-176.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:09] this patent thing is not for me atleast, i cant go on and read what these guys have patented and who has infringed them [07:09] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-310beab0c7707212) joined ##slackware. [07:10] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-174-58.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [07:13] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.193.219) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:13] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.200.255) joined ##slackware. [07:13] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[08:58] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:58] do you know what's using my snd_hda_intel when i try to modprobe -r it? [08:59] do I personally know? no. lsmod | grep snd might [08:59] i'd like to try removing it before suspend and restoring it after to check if the sound will come back. [09:00] currently, if i have a player open and playing and i do a pm-hibernate, no sound comes out of the player after i resume (but it appears to be playing). [09:00] anyone else having this? [09:01] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@216.23.240.13) joined ##slackware. [09:02] i have this behaviour on the stock 2.6.27 kernel and on self-made 2.6.29 too. and people say .30 is also affected. not sure if i can remedy this at all. [09:02] sinkigobopo_ (n=sinkigob@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) joined ##slackware. [09:03] pupit (n=pupit@91.150.106.65) joined ##slackware. [09:03] fun with kernel hacking [09:03] no [09:03] did you rmmod it before you suspend? [09:04] sinkigobopo_ (n=sinkigob@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) left irc: Client Quit [09:04] or cant you do it then as well? [09:04] Dominian (i=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: "leaving" [09:04] i can't. when i do modprobe -r snd_hda_intel i get FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use. [09:04] you could try to force it [09:05] This option can be extremely dangerous [09:05] rmmod -f [09:05] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:05] you might want to play around with rmmod -w before that, tho [09:06] wobbles (n=huntsman@C-59-101-179-94.mel.connect.net.au) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:07] I've forced removal of ipv6 before. [09:07] The system didn't like that. [09:08] DeeeeP_ (n=ngomes@bl10-180-86.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:08] just thinking what could i be running that uses the sound. will kill it before suspending..... [09:08] slava_dp: sound modules have to be removed in a particular orer. don't ask me the exact order because i can't remember. [09:09] another sound module(or several) is using your snd_hda_intel [09:09] dtanner, modprobe is supposed to be intelligent and remove them all correctly :) but it appears it can't. [09:10] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@216.23.240.13) left irc: "Leaving" [09:13] http://pastebin.ca/1471079 < my snd modules. [09:13] Dominian (n=dominian@col-dsl-dynamic-254-105-124-65.tls.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] slava_dp: close all sound apps and firefox first, kde,gnome and xfce also use the sound card so you may have to close your desktop too [09:14] and IIRC some sound daemons (or apps) need to be shutdown too. [09:14] slava_dp: then rmmod you snd modules [09:14] uhh [09:15] that defeats the purpose it's being done for [09:15] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.27) joined ##slackware. [09:15] slava_dp: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/* [09:15] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-142-130.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:16] gnubien, thanks for that. now i know my foe. [09:16] chipster_ (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) left irc: Client Quit [09:16] slava_dp: cool, dont forget to close sound daemons like dtanner said [09:17] chipster (n=chipster@zildjian.chipsnet.org) joined ##slackware. [09:17] i don't have any sound daemons. just xfce-mcs-manager and xfce-mixer-plugin that are using the sound device. [09:18] slava_dp: i can hibernate without any problems, sound comes back, also using snd_hda_intel on linux 2.6.29.5 [09:18] rworkman, I reported problems with volkerdi's xf86-video-intel but it was actually a misconfiguration in the kernel (in drivers/graphics/drm, i830 support was selected but i915 wasn't), now this has been corrected, everything works fine [09:18] slava_dp: using fluxbox, though [09:18] slava_dp: ok, you have to close xfce and do the rmmod snd module from a console [09:18] I've also tested kms again (kernel 2.6.29.2) and it works really fine now, no flickering [09:18] jumperboy, if you have a sound player that is playing at the time of hibernation, does it keep playing after you resume? [09:19] big_bass (n=big_bass@189.192.181.196) joined ##slackware. [09:19] slava_dp, I always pause mplayer but I'm able to restart playback without problem [09:19] slava_dp: believe so, let me confirm [09:19] jumperboy, please do. [09:19] (pause mplayer before putting the computer to sleep) [09:20] slava_dp: okay, it stopped playing, now will take it out of hibernate... [09:21] slava_dp: yup, started up playing again, no prob (mplayer pulling a di.fm stream on the command line) [09:21] slava_dp: want me to try a specific player? [09:21] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:21] jumperboy, what kind of sound hardware do you have? [09:21] it's an eeepc 1000he [09:22] not sure what the hardware is [09:22] onboard sound, though [09:22] can you do lspci please? [09:23] Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) [09:23] High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) [09:24] so it's intel too. weird. i'm doing something wrong.... or i should update the kernel on the test machine to 29.5 (using plain .29 now). [09:24] i'm on current [09:24] it had the necessary kernel improvements for my netbook [09:25] yup. it's slack 12.2 here, just with a new kernel. [09:25] any idea to get the latest file in a dir with bash? [09:25] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:25] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:26] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.27) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:26] slava_dp: i should've taken better notes, i had to do something special to get sound to work, but I don't remember what... [09:26] it was easy, but i was working on multiple issues setting up the new netbook [09:27] maybe i did something right :) [09:27] jumperboy, something with module options or with suspend quirks? [09:27] slava_dp: i think it was just acpi stuff [09:28] slackytude, ls -lt ? [09:28] alsaconf usually works out of the box, but i had to get the function keys working, i think sound started working after i fixed that [09:28] exaltis (n=exaltis@athedsl-12806.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:29] slackytude, ls + -S ? [09:29] slackytude, ls -1t maybe? and you get the latest one on top. [09:29] or not -S but a similar option [09:29] slava_dp: so it might have been a simple mute problem [09:30] slackytude, also, there is another way but I don't know how reliable it is [09:30] jumperboy, okay. i will try the latest .29 kernel, hopefully that will settle things..... [09:30] slava_dp: what happens when you run alsamix after coming out of hibernation? does it show everything? [09:30] slackytude, when asking the OS for the files of a folder, it will return them sorted by creation time, you can probably use that if you're need that info from a program [09:30] s/alsamix/alsamixer/ [09:30] well, I di ls -rt | head -n 1 [09:31] ls -c [09:31] ls -c -1 |head -n 1 [09:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:31] (well, creation time that is) [09:31] that gives me a file created in 2008 [09:31] with the most recent being ? [09:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:31] that works here [09:31] yesterday [09:32] hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [09:32] Im working on a windows machine with cygwin, I doubt they have that flag [09:32] might be the reason [09:32] (although windows shows the creation time) [09:32] jumperboy, if i start any other sound app it starts playing. but the one that had been playing before i hibernated is not able to play afterwards. [09:32] but it doesnt seem to work on my slack either [09:33] slava_dp: ahhh, that's weird [09:33] maybe because you've lost your slack :D [09:33] anyway, looks like my solution works. just was asking to see if anybody had something incredible cool looking [09:33] slackytude, -r reverses the listing man [09:33] I know [09:33] slava_dp: are you using any sound demon, like artsd? [09:33] s/daemon/demon/ [09:33] Camarade_Tux, -rc [09:34] jumperboy, nope. [09:34] slackytude, he, my solution as cool looking !: P [09:34] yes, but not more so than mine [09:34] slackytude, don't get the problem. ls -1t | head -1 works very well. [09:34] slackytude, the first show by 'ls -c' is the most recent here... [09:34] or if you insist, ls -1rt | tail -1 [09:34] slava_dp, anyway, looks like my solution works. just was asking to see if anybody had something incredible cool looking [09:34] slava_dp: have you tried other players? do they get muted, or does it affect just one? [09:35] jumperboy, they do, unfotunately. [09:35] Camarade_Tux, ah I see, you do head, I get tail [09:36] Camarade_Tux, -c | head vs. -rt | tail [09:36] rworkman, and btw, about 200fps in glxgears which is properly suspended when I switch to a vt and duke nukem 3d runs nicely :) [09:36] slackytude, you want us to swap our head and tail :o [09:36] ? [09:37] nooooo, noobfarm doesn't load ! [09:37] Dominian ! [09:37] Camarade_Tux: 15more mins [09:37] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.11.174) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:37] ='( [09:38] gtg, thanks everyone for help. [09:38] slava_dp: good luck [09:38] Camarade_Tux, nah, I was just remarking on the fact that you like to give head [09:38] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [09:39] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:39] slackytude, yeah :) [09:39] josteint_ (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: "leaving" [09:40] :P [09:40] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:40] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [09:40] Dominian (n=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:41] Dominian (n=matt@unaffiliated/dominian) joined ##slackware. [09:41] desktop'ing and tab'ing back to sinfest :) [09:42] pjdraud (n=pete@pool-71-113-184-179.frstil.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:43] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-24-250.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:45] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [09:46] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.86.122) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:49] pri4pus_ (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [09:49] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:49] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [09:50] Dominian (n=matt@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: "leaving" [09:51] Dominian (n=dominian@col-dsl-dynamic-254-105-124-65.tls.net) joined ##slackware. [09:51] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:52] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.27) joined ##slackware. [09:52] Greetings [09:53] hows things going today in the slackworld? [09:53] Dominian_ (n=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) joined ##slackware. [09:53] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [09:53] Dominian (n=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: Client Quit [09:53] Dominian_ (n=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: Client Quit [09:53] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Dominian (n=dominian@col-dsl-dynamic-254-105-124-65.tls.net) joined ##slackware. [09:54] shriweled to the left [09:54] stupid DSL [09:54] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [09:56] sounds like fun;) [09:57] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [09:58] ghetto (n=ghetto@88.227.97.59) joined ##slackware. [09:58] excuse me [09:58] what did ya do? fart? [09:58] Before you install the video card must be backed up what files? [09:58] y0 The-Croupier [09:58] v4nelle (n=van@adsl43-30.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:59] ghetto: nothing? :) maybe /etc/X11/xorg.conf for reference... [09:59] no files need backed up before you install hardware [10:00] well, NVIDIA does overwrite some GLX files [10:00] hi. Anyone know how to stop k3b from arranging my songs automatically/alphabetically? I want to put songs on a CD in a certain order, its fighting me. [10:00] thank you friends [10:01] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:02] slow day today [10:02] briareus: you do understand that it doesn't matter? :) [10:02] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-29-67.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:02] briareus: i know nothing about how to make k3b behave but if you just lable the filenames track-1.wav track-2.wav etc and use 'cdrecord blah-options track*' it will burn them in numerical order. [10:02] Dominian, still not up :D [10:03] s/label/change-rename/ [10:03] The-spiki: its essentially a mix-tape on CD for a friend about to drive across teh country [10:04] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-50-7.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [10:04] Camarade_Tux: yeah I know. [10:04] thanks dtanner it might have to come to that, but ~700MB of songs renamed in under an hour and burned is a tall order. Makes sense though (what you say about cdrecord, since k3b calls it anyway) [10:05] if it keeps up.. I'll boot my "failover" vps and update DNS.. but gotta wai ta bit longer before I do that [10:05] brb [10:05] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [10:06] whut? the noobfarm? it is down? oh noes! [10:06] ghetto (n=ghetto@88.227.97.59) left irc: "Leaving" [10:06] its goes down more often than a $2 hooker [10:06] briareus: I usually rename them in the k3b project window, but it will also burn them in the order you drag them, under the right circumstances [10:06] briareus: well if they are standard audio files and not mp3 ( which they should be if he is going to play them in a standard cdplayer that may or may not handle mp3 files ) it shouldn't be *that* many files. [10:06] noizze (n=noise@p549CE516.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:07] slackytude, we wouldn't notice it if we weren't checking it so often ;) [10:07] slackytude, say that to the pimp hmmm hmm Dominian [10:07] Camarade_Tux, we have no life :( [10:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:07] how often do you check hookers already ? [10:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:07] In Germany, hookers check you [10:07] Camarade_Tux, depends how often do you run out of money :P [10:08] The-Croupier, with a 2€ hooter it should be ok :D [10:08] s/hooter/hooker/ ;p [10:08] slackytude, he, I remember when I was 18 and didn't look that old, got an old hooker check me, it was like 2pm on a boulevard :o [10:09] heh [10:11] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:11] ghetto (n=ghetto@88.227.97.59) joined ##slackware. [10:11] how did she check you? she id'ed you? [10:12] jumperboy: define right circumstances :) I drag them in and it alphabetically arranges them. I'm renumbering for now [10:13] dtanner: the car audio is mp3 [10:13] just started talking to me, but she would also have done that to a 16yo boy [10:13] damn [10:13] customer called [10:13] briareus: sweet [10:13] Action: Camarade_Tux thought briareus was alphabetically arranging hookers... 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[10:14] coreywynsma (n=chatzill@216.120.143.186) left irc: Client Quit [10:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:14] briareus: 01 - Artist - Song 1.mp3 02 - Artist - Song 2.mp3 ... [10:14] jumperboy: ok, so its not just me thinking its unreliable in this fashion. Strange that with so many features, toggling ordering is not one of them. [10:14] Camarade_Tux, its your fault: you wrote the "hooker" word so many times...my shy computer shut down [10:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:14] yeah, that's what I'm going to do--if I have time [10:15] briareus: you might also be able to save the project and edit the XML file, but that's just more work... [10:17] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [10:17] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:17] ghetto (n=ghetto@88.227.97.59) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:17] Action: The-Croupier is overwritten by viruses :( [10:17] NOTE TO k3B DEVS: please add a button that lets us toggle ordering. [10:18] (for that army of k3b devs here in the channel, of course) [10:18] briareus, check topic != k3b [10:19] pupit (n=pupit@91.150.106.65) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:19] briareus, i doubt if you would find even a wounded soldier of that army in here [10:19] but i bet you could find at least one ex hooker [10:20] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.48) joined ##slackware. [10:20] The-Croupier, hahaha :P [10:20] hooker [10:20] ghetto (n=ghetto@88.227.97.59) joined ##slackware. [10:20] coreywynsma (n=chatzill@216.120.143.186) joined ##slackware. [10:21] what's wrong with hookers? [10:21] say it again [10:21] i like reading it [10:21] nothing. i like them [10:22] The-spiki, you like what? [10:22] hookers are just honest women; men want it, they know it, they acknowledge it, they offer it, and they should be rewarded for their time. Agreed, it gets sketchy when drugs and pimps are involved, but in a true free market, they satisfy demand and could organize into a hooker bloc. [10:22] hehe, hooker bloc. [10:22] i like hookers [10:22] I like saying that. Hooker bloc. [10:22] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [10:22] The-spiki: ever hang out around the hooker bloc? [10:23] no. i'm more of an "in and out" man [10:23] ghetto (n=ghetto@88.227.97.59) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:23] Action: Camarade_Tux read his first year of sinfest [10:23] http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=374 :D [10:23] more of a one-minute-wonder kind of guy? that's ok, so many are. Dont be ashamed. And you make men like me look so much better, so thanks. [10:23] Oh SNAP [10:23] and we don't have real bloc's here... only one park with filty whores... [10:24] The-spiki: define filthy [10:24] ten mo than folty [10:24] briareus: skanks [10:25] the type that transmit std :) [10:25] we had a ex porn actress run up for presidency in france ;) [10:25] skanks provide a valid psychosocial function: They enable the loser men with empty wallets to get laid without resorting to violence. [10:25] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:25] Camarade_Tux: chicolina was in .it parliament at one time [10:25] i really have to che firewall, im sure i never put a hooker rule in there [10:26] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:26] The-Croupier, you know, you don't have to disconnect while you're with a hooker -_- [10:26] che firewall? [10:26] Camarade_Tux...depends [10:26] thrice` (n=thrice@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] briareus, yeah, like Che Guevarra :) [10:27] The-Croupier, just make the sure the webcam is off -_- [10:27] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] it was the hooker who disconnected it :p with her toe.. we had a bet.. she won.. i have to please her now... [10:27] noobfarm is up [10:27] Dominian (n=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: "leaving" [10:27] damn [10:28] Che Guevara, hahaha. I love how the guy was an arch anti-capitalist and his face sells a million crappy t-shirts with poorly-printed plastisol images of his face. Che LOST. [10:28] ohhh hes gone again ;) [10:28] Dominian, ty [10:28] Dominian (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [10:28] The-Croupier, hahaha ! :p [10:28] bye bye [10:28] Dominian, \o/ [10:28] Dominian, now, make you sure *you* are up ;) [10:28] hes back im off [10:29] yeah I'm back [10:29] briareus, somehow yes [10:29] and if hes up... hmmm.. this hoooker might like it [10:29] just had to switch fro my home connection to the VPS [10:29] Dominian, ty [10:29] Seriously, if I want to make money off the pseudo-intellectual leftists, all I did was print a picture of Che on a T-shirt and all the stupid self-described 'commies' shelled out money to me. Idiots. [10:29] goodnight everyone [10:29] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [10:30] I even charged them MORE for their beloved Che and they paid it, totally oblivious of the point I was making with the smirk on my face. [10:30] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:31] morning :) [10:31] I played similar games with the Grateful Dead crowd. I charged the hell out of them, and they paid it with their hard-earned mushroom money. You see I had Deadheads steal from me, so I decided to extract it all back from that crowd, and I did. [10:31] briareus, you got money just by wearing a T-shirt with Che on it? [10:31] briareus, I've been to a live of Rage Against The Machine last yeah, some people's clothing was clearly expensive but RATM was trendy [10:32] ccfreak2k: no, I owned a print shop. I made money selling Che's face in capitalist fashion to pseudo-intellectual leftists who adore him. [10:32] Oh, you MADE shirtys. [10:32] One guy says "goodnight" and the next one says "morning" [10:32] he ;) [10:32] The-spiki: that was cool [10:32] but I'm surprised The-Croupier is already in bed [10:32] yea. i thought he was greek [10:33] briareus, still owning it ? wanna send t-shirts to France ? :D [10:33] Well that's because his donkey retired early as well. Oh SNAP [10:33] Giant81_ (n=giant@h69-129-137-126.69-129.unk.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [10:33] yeah, he's probably busy with his hooker [10:34] Camarade_Tux: actually I just bought a screenprint machine again. Not planning on going back into business, but with the times as they are, I'm accumulating all the tools for many of the things I've done so I have more options [10:34] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:35] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:35] briareus, if you have to ship to Europe, give an option for slow shipping, quick shipping is sooooo expensive [10:35] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:36] ok [10:36] I' [10:36] I [10:36] grr [10:36] I are drunk ? :) [10:36] I'll ship them on a boat so that they will be out of style by the time they arrive [10:36] I haz parkinson ? [10:36] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Hewlett Packard makes terrible consumer laptops." [10:36] no, the ENTER key is too close to the ' on this small keyboard [10:36] briareus, yeah, nice :) [10:37] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [10:37] I would also like to sell not just printed shirts, but now that I know an upholsterer, I think I want to sell my own line of leather hoods and BDSM gear [10:37] DArqueBishop (i=drkbish@tyrande.darquecathedral.org) joined ##slackware. [10:38] I have this wicked idea for a leather hood with a zipper mouth. [10:38] Giant81_ (n=giant@h69-129-137-126.69-129.unk.tds.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:38] I think those already exist. [10:38] I think I might buy some then [10:38] oh yes they exist, but my leather hood with a zipper mouth > others [10:38] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [10:38] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [10:38] I wonder how the zipper feels for the tongue [10:39] slackytude, I guess you can answer that one ^^ [10:39] mine will also have the ring on top of the head (for attaching to a chain) [10:39] i dont wanna know [10:39] Camarade_Tux, huh? [10:39] Camarade_Tux, what makes you think so? [10:39] slackytude: I think he's trying to make an Oh SNAP [10:39] hmmm, some pics liked on the internetz [10:39] sos_ (i=1000@117.200.49.172) joined ##slackware. [10:39] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@97-86-234-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:39] briareus, no, no trying to make anything ;) [10:40] lymeca (n=lymeca@terminus-est.gnu.org) joined ##slackware. [10:40] just an old cliché about germans [10:40] ze germanz [10:41] Plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [10:41] dont mention the war [10:41] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [10:41] BEST. PRODUCT. REVIEW. EVAR!!!! http://www.extremerestraints.com/review/92/ring-gag_3700.html [10:41] kde vs gnome [10:41] or vi vs emacs [10:42] slackytude, well, not really [10:42] briareus, ze girls not included [10:42] The-spiki, both wars are over, vi and kde won ;) [10:42] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.27) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:42] You know, I should know the answer to this having used Slackware for so long, but I just can't remember this situation coming up... [10:42] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:42] i wonder if that was NSFW link [10:42] This gag is amazing. I really can't describe how much you drool using this gag. I'm wearing it whilst writing this and I'm practically soaked already! ---CLASSIC [10:43] emacs and kde won ^) [10:43] The-spiki, I was wondering the same [10:43] i mean, i might start firefox if that is NSFW link... otherwise not :) [10:43] briareus, yeah, that's saliva ;) [10:43] Would there be a patch release to a package if it's not security related and instead is a functionality fix? Pidgin was upgraded within the past few days because Yahoo doesn't work on 2.5.6 or earlier. [10:43] The-spiki, yeah, nsfw :) [10:44] with the url ending in "ring-gag_3700.html" ... [10:44] DArqueBishop, it will if you use -current. [10:44] do I have to change the svn config to be able to serve over the local network? I can't checkout my repository on my other computer [10:44] ... which I don't. I use -12.2. [10:44] Hm. [10:45] Then you're SOL. [10:45] coreywynsma (n=chatzill@216.120.143.186) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.9/2009040821]" [10:46] I am laughing my ass off at the image of someone sitting there at a computer drooling all over their shirt. and who sits around wearing a gag while writing a review online? THAT Freak does. [10:46] o...k [10:47] upyr[emacs], proof emacs lost : it's no on my computer :P [10:47] Camarade_Tux: well, it aint NSFW. [10:48] how'd you call it ? [10:48] nsfw, not safe for wife ? [10:48] SFW [10:49] noobfarm [10:49] it is up again! [10:49] DArqueBishop (i=drkbish@tyrande.darquecathedral.org) left ##slackware. [10:49] The-spiki, you realize you're speaking of a sex-shop with a link to a "Penis Head Glans Ring with Ball" on the right ? [10:50] yea. but no pics [10:50] actually, small pics, thumbnails. it's nothing [10:52] eh [10:52] its still not safe for work [10:52] is it necessary to set up the svn server to accept connections from the network? I can't seem to do a checkout over my network for some reason [10:52] I dont want my boss catching me browsing a sex-shop site [10:52] not again :P [10:53] pri4pus_ (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "leaving" [10:53] very nice [10:53] hehe :P [10:53] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [10:54] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-156-251.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Connection timed out [10:55] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:56] Giant81_ (n=giant@h69-129-137-126.69-129.unk.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [10:57] since i did sync with current i have no mouse & keyboard anymore. But i cant find significant in changes & hints file? [10:57] noizze, in X or everywhere ? [10:58] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:58] Camarade_Tux: yes, X only [10:58] noizze: the entire Xorg library changed. try commenting out all input related sections in xorg.conf [10:58] noizze, hal disabled ? [10:58] hal is enabled [10:59] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:59] tried reconfiguring ? [10:59] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:59] i've created a new xorg.conf with X -configure but same [10:59] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [11:00] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [11:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] v4nelle (n=van@adsl43-30.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:01] you need to copy hal's policy files to /etc/hal/....somewhere [11:01] no, you don't. the defaults will work fine [11:01] anyone know why my screen doesn't redraw gvim when i switch workspaces? [11:01] sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't [11:01] th widget won't draw [11:02] also, that xorg.conf from X -configure will still have input sections [11:02] Kaapa: maybe they get overwritten because the path changed [11:02] thrice` (n=thrice@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:02] thrice` (n=thrice@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:02] noizze, yeah, you should rm or mv your xorg.conf and reconfigure with xorgsetup [11:02] thrice`: the defaults didn't work for me [11:03] the defaults will work. you might need to tweak for a keymapping change [11:03] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.22.204) joined ##slackware. [11:04] DArqueBishop (i=drkbish@tyrande.darquecathedral.org) joined ##slackware. [11:04] rworkman, i have a question about to contribute a .SlackBuild for .jar files [11:04] Action: thrice` points sombriks to #slackbuilds [11:04] thrice`, ty [11:05] Hermann (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:05] Giant81_ (n=giant@h69-129-137-126.69-129.unk.tds.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:05] Okay, next stupid question... I see the Slackware package format got changed a month ago. What packages do I need to update in 12.2 from current in order to support it... and is it still compatible with tgz? [11:06] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:06] DArqueBishop: yes, it will be compatable. the required updates are left as .tgz, so anything with .tgz should be upgraded (or installed) first [11:06] compatible yes. why don't you install all patches for 12.2? [11:06] snowdonkey (i=1000@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:07] I have all the patches that I'm aware of, via slackpkg update/upgrade-all. [11:07] giant (n=giant@h69-129-137-126.69-129.unk.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [11:07] that's it then. [11:07] thrice`: true - my problem was keymapping [11:07] It still won't install a txz file. [11:07] (tar, pkgtools, slackpkg) [11:07] DArqueBishop: what is your slackware version? [11:08] Slack 12.2. [11:08] then why do you want to run .txz packages/ [11:08] Pidgin. [11:09] DArqueBishop: you do realise that pidgin in -current is compiled against different libraries, right? [11:09] I don't need to go to -current except for that one program. Yahoo changed something within the past week requiring Pidgin to make a fix and go to 2.5.7, but because it's not aecurity-related it's not likely to be updated in 12.2. [11:09] No, I wasn't. [11:09] you don't need the newer pidgin for that. [11:09] all you need to do is change the pager server for your yahoo accounts to: cn.scs.msg.yahoo.com [11:10] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.86.122) joined ##slackware. [11:10] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:10] DArqueBishop: if you really want pidgin 2.5.7 you'll best bet is to grap the slackbuild from a mirror, download the source for pidgin.im, modify the slackbuild and build it yourself. [11:11] Weird... now it works. [11:11] That's like the third different pager address I had been given. :-) [11:12] I pulled one off the Pidgin mailing list, and when that stopped working I tried the one off a Windows Pidgin 2.5.7 build. [11:12] i'm more surprised that people actually use yahoo [11:12] me too [11:12] Several of my friends use it. [11:12] I am more suprised that I am the only one that seems to have found a decent pager server/solution a week of so again after 3 minutes googling. [11:13] BP{k}: u sure it was google :), not yahoo... [11:13] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:13] :p [11:13] pupit: Pretty damn sure. By the way "u" is a letter, I am sure you meant to say "you" right? [11:14] you're damn right! [11:15] BP{k}: u crazy [11:15] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.22.230) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:15] sos_ (i=1000@117.200.49.172) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:15] Actually, the only major IM service I don't have any friends on these days is ICQ. I dumped that one a few years back thanks to spam. [11:16] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A5A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:17] nheco (n=nheco@201-66-134-10.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:18] BP{k}: thanks for the help. :-) [11:19] DArqueBishop (i=drkbish@tyrande.darquecathedral.org) left ##slackware. [11:19] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.10.248) joined ##slackware. [11:19] Nick change: giant -> Giant81_ [11:23] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.165.69) joined ##slackware. [11:24] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:25] maxote (n=||||||||@84.79.67.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:26] icq, wow that's old school [11:27] maxote (n=||||||||@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [11:27] umislack (n=umislack@202.80.225.77) joined ##slackware. [11:33] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:34] __29A7D0__ (n=AKFW-010@187-032-075-227.static.ctbctelecom.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:34] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [11:34] <__29A7D0__> heY [11:34] <__29A7D0__> hello everyone [11:35] hi [11:35] <__29A7D0__> I'm stucked while I try to compile ipsec-tools on slackware 12.2 [11:35] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:35] <__29A7D0__> seems that i don't have selinux.h or something [11:35] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:38] most likely [11:38] <__29A7D0__> but i download the library from a website [11:39] <__29A7D0__> now the error comes with "avc_init in -lselinux.h" [11:40] <__29A7D0__> i would love to at least install ipsec-tools =- ) [11:41] there is no selinux in slackware so you need to find a way to compile ipsex-tools without that [11:42] <__29A7D0__> theres no information about how to do that in the readme or man page [11:43] <__29A7D0__> i need to configure a vpn using ipsec... do you have a suggestion Camarade_Tux ? [11:43] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [11:43] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [11:44] Hello. [11:44] ! [11:44] <__29A7D0__> hi pri4pus [11:45] Samy2 (n=samyw@92.85.219.29) joined ##slackware. [11:45] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) joined ##slackware. [11:45] __29A7D0__, check ./configure --help for some option to disable selinux support or something ? (just a guess) [11:45] <__29A7D0__> hiptobecubic, =- ) [11:47] <__29A7D0__> ou [11:47] <__29A7D0__> nothing yet [11:47] one of the configure switch is --with-libpam=DIR ... [11:47] sos_ (i=1000@117.200.49.172) joined ##slackware. [11:49] __29A7D0__, you need to compile with --disable-security-context [11:49] freack (n=frk@189.58.216.71) joined ##slackware. [11:49] moss23 (n=d@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) joined ##slackware. [11:49] <__29A7D0__> cool i'll tryit [11:50] how to install avant window navig... i have downloaded and installed pyxdg, GConf, and ORBit2 needed by AWN but when i make (tgz) it gives errors ( packages downloaded frm slackbuilds.org )( on Xfce D.E ) =http://pastebin.com/d1395763b [11:51] snowdonkey (i=1000@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:51] __29A7D0__, you might run into other errors but it should work [11:52] <__29A7D0__> it works Camarade_Tux [11:52] sos_, "/usr/local/lib/GConf/2/libgconfbackend-xml.so" tells me you haven't used the slackbuild for gconf, have you ? [11:52] <__29A7D0__> but how do you know such thing? [11:52] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:52] check on slackbuilds.org for the gconf and orbit2 slackbuilds, you'll probably have to clean the existing installations of gconf and orbit2 which are under /usr/local [11:52] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [11:53] __29A7D0__, because a slackbuild as on sbo wouldn't put files in /usr/local [11:53] Camarade_Tux, i downloaded it and installed without errors from slackbuilds [11:53] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [11:53] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [11:53] sos_, then you have your problem : it looks for files in the wrong directory [11:54] but I don't have time to check that, I'm leaving [11:54] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [11:54] and don't have gconf anymore, anyway, one should check the slackbuild doesn't put anything under /usr/local [11:57] okay [12:00] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.86.122) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:01] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:02] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:02] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.230) joined ##slackware. [12:02] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:03] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [12:04] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.90.108) joined ##slackware. [12:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:05] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [12:06] ghetto (n=ghetto@88.227.97.59) joined ##slackware. [12:07] After you install slackware windows opening directly ? [12:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:08] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) left irc: "Leaving" [12:08] Samy2 (n=samyw@92.85.219.29) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:09] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:10] ghetto (n=ghetto@88.227.97.59) left irc: [12:10] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.48) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:10] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-428467669b571eb8) left irc: [12:11] anything special needed to install slack onto a usb stick instead of a hdd? [12:11] or just a normal install but select the usb for the hdd? 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[12:24] me_ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:30] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [12:32] groo (n=groo@201-92-215-145.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:33] groo (n=groo@201-92-215-145.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:33] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:35] moss23 (n=d@host-85-13-85-53.lidos.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [12:37] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:37] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:38] Action: briareus pukes on grub [12:38] so, what would you use ? [12:39] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:39] the only one I've never had a single problem with: Lilo [12:39] syslinux might be an alternative but lilo certainly isn't [12:39] why not? [12:39] on a usb stick for different computers ? [12:39] <__29A7D0__> vai tomar no rabo [12:39] hmm, yeah maybe grub for that [12:40] I yield to your superior knowledge on usb sticks for multiple computers [12:40] something I haven't done yet [12:40] __29A7D0__ (n=AKFW-010@187-032-075-227.static.ctbctelecom.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [12:40] well the usb stick wouldnt be for different computers [12:40] but as for regular computer bootloading, Ive had grub implode too many times, i don't trust it [12:40] i_is_cat, lilo could work then [12:40] its just because the hard drives in the system are maxed and set as raid [12:41] but usually, an usb is for different computers and there, the ability to change the boot command-line is vital [12:41] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.65.164) joined ##slackware. [12:41] Oakenfold (n=eduardo@190.42.201.37) joined ##slackware. [12:41] giuppy (n=giuppy@host244-68-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:41] (disable acpi, change resolution, change root=/dev/sda1 to anything else...) [12:41] beep [12:41] meep [12:42] SEGFAULT [12:42] From where to download slackware 4 ? [12:42] i'm so glad we dont get the chanel with barney [12:42] Camarade_Tux, I though lilo can do that? [12:42] Oakenfold (n=eduardo@190.42.201.37) left irc: Client Quit [12:42] Axius, slackware.no probably has that [12:43] slackytude, if you could tell me how, I'd buy you a pair of scissors :) [12:43] so then just a regular install should work...? [12:43] made of gold? [12:44] hmmm, no [12:44] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [12:44] i_is_cat, can't remember, google ? [12:45] ya most of the info im finding on google is talking about installing from a usb stick instead of onto a usb stick and the only useful info i've found points to linux-live.org [12:45] remembering, one way is to copy the files, set fstab and a boot manager [12:47] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:48] you might look at : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/boot-slackware-from-usb-stick-715231/ [12:49] sentabi- (i=sentabi-@unaffiliated/sentabi) joined ##slackware. [12:49] hmm ok ty [12:51] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.220.83) joined ##slackware. [12:51] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:53] snowdonkey (i=1000@c-98-227-223-25.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [12:56] deftunix (n=deftunix@host-78-14-84-110.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [12:57] hi all, is possible running a custom script with removepkg like doinst.sh in install? [12:57] thanks [12:58] to my knowledge, there is no post_remove option in slackware's packaging [12:58] there are some method to do it? [13:00] not really, no. [13:00] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [13:01] cherife (n=cherife@219.82.156.196) joined ##slackware. [13:04] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-128-209.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:06] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat078.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:08] y0 hiptobecubic [13:08] y0 slackytude :) [13:08] y0 init[1] ^-^ [13:08] howdy [13:08] _o/=\/ hi [13:09] lying down? [13:09] learning stuff [13:09] you? [13:09] i'd like to say learning stuff, but really i'm trying to evdev to map my keyboard properly [13:09] heh [13:09] slackytude: you where able to decrypt it ? [13:10] wow [13:10] boo evdev [13:10] well, actually Im avoidung to learn stuff but oh well [13:10] :P [13:10] init[1], nope [13:11] _o/=\/ this is me lying down saying hi :P [13:11] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:11] ah [13:11] hiptobecubic: you decrypted right? [13:15] was an easy one, you easily recognize init[1]'s pics :) [13:15] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:15] Camarade_Tux: who recognize it ? :) [13:16] gah, you didn't make the pics public ? [13:16] Camarade_Tux: which pic _o/=\/ <-? [13:17] P4C0 (n=paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: "kernel upgrade" [13:17] I meant the one where you are lying down in the same position :) [13:17] no no .. i didn't .. :) [13:18] firebird's taught me :) [13:18] \o/ [13:18] | [13:18] \o/ [13:18] fail :) [13:18] \o/ [13:18] | [13:18] lol [13:18] slackboy didn't react ='( [13:19] Camarade_Tux: me an him are in agreement :P [13:19] prove it, paste four lines within a second ;) [13:20] alienBOB: may fire me - :( [13:20] Better that he fire you than I shoot you. [13:20] its an hidden agreement :P [13:20] Alan_Hicks: hi [13:21] Action: Stx looks in [13:21] peeping tom!@ [13:22] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:22] hmmm, Mike Patton [13:27] she's a maniac a maniac [13:27] akSeya (n=psycho@201.22.57.80) joined ##slackware. [13:28] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:28] Greetings everyone. :) [13:28] greetings humans of earth [13:28] i come in peace [13:29] y0 firebird619, C00re [13:29] take me to your leader [13:29] who said I'm from earth? ;) [13:29] y0 slackytude, how's it going? [13:29] firebird619: hi [13:29] hi firebird619 [13:29] hey init[1] [13:29] firebird619, same old, same old, you? [13:29] hey tewmten [13:29] hey ppl and tewmten [13:29] doing great, thanks [13:29] :p [13:30] hi C00re [13:31] slackytude, I give you golden scissors, you get me a ticket to see Faith No More live ;) [13:31] yo firebird619 :) [13:32] nekuro (n=Nekuro@iburst-41-213-117-202.iburst.co.za) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Camarade_Tux, too much work [13:32] Action: slackytude is tired [13:32] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0CEC9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] y0 Camarade_Tux [13:32] tomorrow is the last day of work [13:32] \o/ [13:33] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0CEC9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:33] why this: # CONFIG_MAC80211_HWSIM is not set [13:33] slackytude, so you can go crazy and break everything :) [13:34] heh, I mean last day since Im writing my tests then. Dont have to go to work until Im done with it [13:34] hahaha :P [13:34] http://asset.soup.io/asset/0357/2873_0ae8.jpeg [13:34] hehe [13:34] std.io [13:34] slackytude, and then you can get me to see faith no more live :) [13:35] Camarade_Tux, lets talk again if I managed to pass all of them [13:35] tewmten, lol ;p [13:35] I wont be writing robot simulations, tho [13:36] slackytude, close irc right now and get to work, I want to see Faith No More (remember, that may imply reuniting the band and setting up lives ;p ) [13:36] thito (n=d-_-b@187.40.60.122) joined ##slackware. [13:36] akSeya (n=psycho@201.22.57.80) left irc: "Leaving" [13:36] cherife (n=cherife@219.82.156.196) left irc: "leaving" [13:37] Camarade_Tux, well, Ill catch the bus in a few minutes, so Ill actually follow your suggestion [13:38] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:40] Camarade_Tux, I could threathen Faith No More with my assassin [13:40] Camarade_Tux, butI think macavity killed him [13:40] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:41] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:42] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] thito (n=d-_-b@187.40.60.122) left irc: "..ALIVEscript www.alivescript.net Serginho Groisman usa.. Falei.. Bacana.. Tá Falado" [13:44] slackytude, then we should threaten Faith No More with macavity ;) [13:44] heh [13:44] very logical [13:45] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:46] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.88.15.2) joined ##slackware. [13:46] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:47] edbian (n=ed@75.150.213.137) joined ##slackware. [13:48] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:49] macavity, macavity, macavity ! [13:50] hmmm, he's not beetlejuice =/ [13:51] I don't get it. What is better: ssh or OpenSSH? [13:52] I mean, what is most secure? [13:52] pri4pus: openssh is ssh [13:52] :-) [13:52] whose other implementation do you mean? [13:52] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:52] Ups, that is right. man ssh gives all the info. :-) [13:53] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:53] pri4pus, "man ssh | tail -8" ;) [13:54] Thank you! [13:54] slackytude (n=slacky@141.100.75.147) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:55] Action: pri4pus needs a job! [13:55] too much free time ? :p [13:55] Action: gar0t0 need another job [13:56] Camarade_Tux: Too much free time, not too much experience and I really need money! :-) [13:56] TheBig (n=TheBig@151.16.183.97) joined ##slackware. [13:59] I know you guys are probably bias but: Debian or Slackware? I am thinking about dappling in Slack a little. [13:59] slackware :) [13:59] Slackware!!! [13:59] we're not probably biaised, we're certainly completely biaised ;) [13:59] debian [13:59] thrice`, troll ;) [13:59] Does slackware solve dependencies for me? [14:00] edbian, a big NO [14:00] How do you guys deal with that? [14:00] alsckware [14:00] 'edbian~ESC0xp' for the vimers :) [14:00] edbian: deal with what? [14:00] we read READMEs [14:00] So do I have to download every package very tarballs from the internet [14:01] see /topic [14:01] I find debian packaging MUCH more difficult, with split headers, etc [14:01] caio (n=caio@190.244.61.176) joined ##slackware. [14:01] thrice`, I do too [14:01] actually all other major distros split [14:01] Is there a package manager? Does it connect to a repo mirror? [14:02] edbian: install it, then come back with your questions [14:02] seriously, do some reason plz [14:02] s/reason/reading* [14:02] Yes, no, and again see /topic [14:02] edbian: There is a package manager (technically two) but it doesn't connect to a repo server. Read http://www.slackbook.org/ [14:02] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.114.28.187.plusnet.thn-ag3.dyn.plus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:02] slackpkg can be used with a mirror though [14:02] do you mean "#off-topic? [14:03] ok, you should stick to debian for sure [14:03] but, the term "repo" does not mean the same thing it does in Debian [14:03] (regarding slackpkg I mean) [14:03] slackware gives you an installation. for everything else, you're on your own [14:03] edbian: trust me, you don't miss apt-get when you switch to slackware [14:03] it provides you security updates, as you'd expect, but there are no 3rd party "repos" [14:03] or dpkg, synaptic, etc................. [14:04] http://slackwaregallery.org/albums/userpics/10015/coffee_troubleshooting.jpg [14:04] and security updates are rare, compared to windows, mac, debian, and especially ubuntu [14:05] mm, disagree [14:05] how so? [14:05] i don't mean current, of course :) [14:06] typically, minus silly distro bugs (don't bring up openssl :> ), they all get affected and patched [14:07] well, i guess i'm including silly distro bugs and reconfigurations/deviations from upstream [14:07] (not to mention pam and other stuff that's not in slackware) [14:07] 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 ;) [14:07] :D [14:08] thrice`: Ubuntu seems to want to install updates every day, but Slackware only seems to need security updates once or twice every couple of weeks. [14:08] yeah [14:08] has anyone gotten VMWare workstation UNITY to work with slackware 12.2 on a windows XP host? [14:09] nekuro (n=Nekuro@iburst-41-213-117-202.iburst.co.za) left ##slackware. [14:09] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-71-77.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Deuces." [14:13] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:13] hahaha ! http://www.downloadfestival.co.uk/info/index.aspx [14:14] anyone used the 3.0.11 firefox Slackbuild script ( changed version of course ) to build ff 3.5rc2 ? [14:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:15] I am guessing that i do not need those pacthes in the source dir so i need to modify that too. yes i know i can just plop the new ff in any directory and run it but i want to keep inline with the official slackware paths [14:15] I have, though I didn't update the MIME or plugins patch [14:15] patches* [14:15] that is what i was thinking too thrice` [14:15] anyways it errors out when ya leave the patches in. i haven't looked into it any closer [14:15] zeroXzero (n=zxz@unaffiliated/zeroxzero) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:16] what WM are you guys using? [14:16] all of them in the universe [14:16] i use gnome.gware myself [14:16] fluxbox [14:16] Is there even an active gnome project for Slackware anymore? [14:16] and i also like fluxbox and afterstep and xfce and and =) [14:16] Alan_Hicks: yes [14:17] http://gware.org/ [14:17] gware had a release recently [14:17] Wow... [14:17] running very nicely on 12.2 [14:17] That's kinda laggy though. Released on April 1 and here we are near 13.0's release with a whole nother architecture added. [14:18] they've always been laggy [14:18] edbian (n=ed@75.150.213.137) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:18] well, at least it is here. there are only two of us and we don't like to release before it is ready [14:19] dtanner: I can't blame you there. [14:19] GoThis next release is gonna be a bitch for y'all though; I'm sure. [14:19] prolly so [14:19] what kernel is 13 shipping with? [14:20] I think it's great that y'all are masochistic enough to compile GNOME for Slackware releases. [14:20] dakarn, well, it's not shipping yet [14:20] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.65.164) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:20] dakarn: Best guess? Whatever's currently in -current. [14:20] Alan_Hicks: it can be challenging =) [14:20] dtanner, just so I finally know which is which : does gware changes any lib ? what about pam ? can it be removed easily ? [14:20] Camarade_Tux: phone .. hold on [14:21] dtanner: I know. I spent some time back with Slackware 8.0 trying to build GNOME 2.0. Nightmare. [14:22] deco (n=chatzill@adsl-69-108-74-161.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] dakarn: it'll be 2.6.29.x, probably 2.6.29.5 [14:22] are the packages in http://packages.slackware.it/ binary packages ? [14:22] Camarade_Tux: we are very careful as to specifying what stock packs we replace and you can always find a complete list here -> http://www.websightdesigns.com/gware/12.2/2.24.3/INSTALL [14:22] big_bass (n=big_bass@189.192.181.196) left ##slackware. [14:24] Camarade_Tux: the download page has all the goods and readmes -> http://www.gware.org/download/ [14:25] dtanner: Oh that's nice! Last time I looked at any of these GNOME projects it was Dropline, and they just replaced crap without giving you any idea of what they had replaced. [14:25] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.72.46) joined ##slackware. [14:26] dtanner, the list of replaced packages seems reasonnable :) [14:26] Alan_Hicks: our goal fmor the very start was to be as "slackware" as we could. and to be the total opposite of dropline. [14:26] he :p [14:26] how the hell did i do ... THIS -> fmor ? LOL [14:26] mmmm this cigar is good [14:27] kcsquared (n=ken@static-87-102-68-157.karoo.KCOM.COM) joined ##slackware. [14:27] dtanner, your left hand lagged while typing and you typo'ed with your right hand ;) [14:27] i.e. you suck at typing :D [14:28] anyway, we all suck, nobody beats eviljames's 900WPM -_- [14:28] ok geeks, i have 3 of these gayvidia servers, i'm having sata controller issues, i can put an alternative sata controller but i'm lacking a riser card. should i buy a generic riser card or am i wasting my time [14:29] why arent you using the kernel driver? [14:29] jeev: so to rephrase: "Should I throw good money after bad?" :) [14:29] dtanner: Yeah. I like how short that list of replaced packages is as well. That's manageable should you overwrite them with something from patches/. [14:30] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [14:30] eh [14:30] it's not that expensive [14:30] but i hear risers are problematic. [14:31] not if they [14:31] 're seated properly [14:31] and the cards are screwed in (as long as it all fits) [14:31] jeev, or you can send the corresponding money to Adrien Nader, 7 rue Boissonade, 75014 Paris, France :) [14:31] (you can also send cake, flowers, postcards...) [14:31] Zozma (n=Winter@75-121-144-49.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Connection timed out [14:32] is that your forward to the kremlin ? [14:32] lol [14:32] yeah, my own personnal forward :) [14:32] Zozma (n=Winter@98-125-96-140.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [14:32] please, no sex toys, my mother wouldn't like it [14:32] ...or maybe that .... ARGH ! [14:33] where is your sister [14:33] no sister, sorry [14:33] umislack (n=umislack@202.80.225.77) left irc: "leaving" [14:33] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [14:33] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [14:34] Alan_Hicks, btw, 13 won't be release before a week, right ? [14:34] Action: Camarade_Tux would like to test -current on this laptop [14:34] Camarade_Tux: Just go ahead and test -current. I don't know when it'll be released more than you do (or if I do, I'm not telling). [14:34] if it does, you'll already be on it, so what's the difference? [14:35] Alan_Hicks, I probably won't have time to try before the end of the week, that's why I'm asking ;) [14:35] dougsland (n=dougslan@189.63.177.21) joined ##slackware. [14:35] dougsland (n=dougslan@189.63.177.21) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [14:35] thrice`, well, make 13 even more awesomer :) [14:36] im pissed! [14:36] i wanna make this server work [14:36] it was my slack64 at the datacenter [14:36] Action: Camarade_Tux hands jeev a hammer [14:37] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:38] 00:07.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev a3) (prog-if 85 [Master SecO PriO]) [14:38] god damn that to hell [14:38] gotta leave, bbl :) [14:38] later Camarade_Tux [14:39] Alan_Hicks: did u get my message? [14:39] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.65.164) joined ##slackware. [14:40] artv61: What message? [14:40] Alan_Hicks: yeah, we truy real hard although i can not takew any credit for the last several releases other than testing. but i helped lay the grundwork fmor the start. Erik and myself did most of the work until joeyt joined up. i got real busy with other things and so did erik so joeyt has done all the work in the past few releases. [14:41] I intercepted the message, so no, he didn't get it. The answer is "no". [14:41] Alan_Hicks: i pm u [14:41] i will not even try and correct all those typos. :P [14:41] check [14:45] robert0 [14:46] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.88.168) joined ##slackware. [14:47] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:47] kcsquared (n=ken@static-87-102-68-157.karoo.KCOM.COM) left irc: "Leaving" [14:48] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:49] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009045245.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:49] kcsquared (n=ken@static-87-102-68-157.karoo.KCOM.COM) joined ##slackware. [14:49] Action: tewmten farts in ##slackware's general direction [14:49] take that, nerds! [14:50] that wasn't a fart ahhaah [14:50] that was a queef [14:50] it has no smell [14:50] it smells quite bad here.. hm [14:50] oh, crap.. [14:51] Action: tewmten goes and washes his pants [14:51] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [14:51] hi The-Croupier [14:51] hiya tewmten [14:51] how are you today? [14:51] im okay [14:52] glad to hear that ;) [14:52] hm i need to go to the super market and do some shopping [14:52] but waiting for my flatmate to come home and go help me carry stuff [14:52] i need to secure some windows machine... and play with the slackware box to the windows one ;) [14:52] just playing around :( [14:52] but it closes in 1hr so i hope he be home quick [14:53] tewmten: do you HAVE TO go? [14:53] yes [14:53] otherwise i have nothing for breakfast tomorrow [14:53] and possibly no dinner [14:53] :P [14:53] oops [14:54] and my boss was pissed off at me for showing up late for the office [14:54] even though we agreed on that i do some hours of work at home before going to the office [14:54] wtf.. [14:54] tewmten: my boss was pissed off at me today as well ;) [14:54] so i have to start getting up at 6 in the morning again [14:55] I hate it when work expects me on time [14:55] doing everything with one arm only is getting more and more frustrating for every day that goes [14:55] he told me to scan the network through a windows machine... i told him i cannot do it.. but i can from my slackware box ( i can do lots from my slackbox) [14:55] then he got pissed off at me for having my pc there [14:55] :( wtf [14:55] thrice`: the thing is i have no fixed times [14:56] my contract says "work 40 hours per week" [14:56] not when i should do it [14:56] tewmten: that sounds like fun work man [14:56] but it also said my office would cover my health insurance and that didnt really happen either so wtf.. [14:56] i guess this is the dutch way [14:57] no, anyone with a salary is "40 hours a week" [14:57] 40+ [14:57] but it's typically understood that they are within normal operating hours [14:57] yeah [14:57] well [14:57] it does say "usually between 9 and 18" [14:58] but whatever.. he said it was fine i do work from home and then show up a bit later [14:58] tewmten: 9 to 17 is mine [14:58] until my shoulder is better [14:58] tewmten: sure, but that's a bit shady :> [14:58] but that exludes my irc time [14:58] excludes/includes [14:58] thrice`: i have a legit reason [14:58] fractured collar bone [14:58] i can only use my left arm [14:59] my right one is out of order [14:59] just at the office? [14:59] i donna wanna risk breaking it again by going in the public transport in rush hour [14:59] no its been like this for a bit over three weeks now [15:00] thrice`: yeah...when hes out of the office it goes back to place :p [15:00] lol [15:01] :) [15:01] oh well [15:02] took me a week to get painkillers prescribed also [15:02] "oh its just a broken bone.. eat some paracetamol and rest" [15:04] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat078.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:06] trying to see savage [15:06] dont know what to do:( [15:09] kcsquared (n=ken@static-87-102-68-157.karoo.KCOM.COM) left irc: "Leaving" [15:11] dakarn (n=skas@83.225.46.136) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:12] kcsquared (n=ken@static-87-102-68-157.karoo.KCOM.COM) joined ##slackware. [15:13] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:13] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. 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[15:21] delt0r__ (n=delt0r@62-47-148-250.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:21] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:21] kcsquared (n=ken@static-87-102-68-157.karoo.KCOM.COM) left irc: "Leaving" [15:22] kcsquared (n=ken@static-87-102-68-157.karoo.KCOM.COM) joined ##slackware. [15:22] kcsquared (n=ken@static-87-102-68-157.karoo.KCOM.COM) left irc: Client Quit [15:24] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl23-121.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:25] hello everyone [15:27] hello, Lord_Khelben [15:27] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:29] greetings Lord_Khelben, how are you? [15:29] firebird619: :) nice.very nice actually [15:30] is current 12.2 ? [15:30] i bought a cpu with emt64 from ebay and now i am copying data to try slack64 [15:30] deco: yes 12.2 is the latest version [15:31] deco: however, slackware 12.2 and slackware current are two separate things. [15:31] Lord_Khelben: sounds like fun. [15:31] firebird619: yeah that's what i thought [15:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:31] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:31] deco the file /etc/slackware-version in -current says 13.0 now so 13.0 might come soon [15:31] so we hope anyway. :D [15:31] but don't hold me on that [15:31] so what's slackware current? is it testing? [15:31] i may be wrong [15:32] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [15:32] deco, yeah, testing [15:32] deco: yes [15:32] Action: Camarade_Tux grabs his shotgun [15:32] Action: firebird619 ducks [15:32] Action: Camarade_Tux shoots [15:32] nutshot ! [15:32] Action: firebird619 watches the bird Camarade_Tux hit fall from the sky. [15:32] how is your day firebird619 ? =) [15:32] ah ok it all makes sense now thanks ! [15:33] my doing is going excellent, thanks. yourself? [15:33] firebird619, well, expecting to reach the ground in a few seconds :P [15:33] hahaha s/doing/day/ [15:33] how long you been up in the air? :P [15:34] deftunix (n=deftunix@host-78-14-84-110.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [15:34] firebird619, hey, I was at a 80km altitude ;) [15:35] nice :) [15:35] aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh [15:35] giuppy (n=giuppy@host209-165-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:35] cmair82 (n=cmair@host42-111-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:35] Action: Camarade_Tux falls to the ground squishing firebird619 ! \o/ [15:36] THANKS ALOT, I'M FLAT NOW [15:36] =) [15:37] you insensitive clod. :P [15:37] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: "leaving" [15:37] |kevlinux| (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:37] yeah, that's what all the girls tell me :D [15:38] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] What Camarade_Tux doesn't know, is while he was freefalling, the real firebird619 got out of the way and put a manikin in his place. [15:39] what does the 1 between 69 mean [15:39] no, I saw you hide behing the tree :) [15:39] zaltekk (n=ztejein@host-64-234-27-197.nctv.com) joined ##slackware. [15:39] nooper, lol ^^ [15:39] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72F9D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] nooper: hahaha [15:39] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [15:39] ?:) [15:40] hey. i'm having something weird happen with my new 12.2 installtion on my laptop. if i am at the terminal and type "ls /etc"(or any other large directory) the first letter of each line of output is on the right side of the screen. [15:40] as if it is wrapping around [15:40] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-128-245.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [15:40] nooper: well, from my perspective, nothing. What's going on in your head, I have no idea. :P [15:40] is there a tool for mass file renaming ? [15:40] this happened after i increased the vga= line in /etc/lilo.conf to use the lcd's native resolution [15:41] dissociative: if you want to rename based on a pattern there is "rename" [15:41] is there a solution other than going back down to a small framebuffer size? [15:41] the xfce file manager thunar also has a renamer [15:41] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [15:41] and many other tools [15:42] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:43] Lord_Khelben: I need just to remove a pattern [15:43] in the name of the files [15:43] also, i don't know the proper place to enable wpa_supplicant and dhcp for my wireless card. rc.inet1.conf and rc.wireless.conf look like they only support using WEP [15:43] i currently added it to rc.local, but i don't think this is the proper way to do it. [15:43] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [15:44] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:wpa [15:44] or checkout wicd on sbo if you have a laptop [15:44] +1 wicd [15:45] slackytude, slackytude, slackytude ! http://www.fnm.com/tour-dates.shtml [15:45] wicd is X utility similar to network manager? [15:45] no need to kill anybody ;) [15:45] Camarade_Tux, hehe [15:45] zaltekk, somehow [15:45] zaltekk: yeah [15:45] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:45] you'd run wicd-client to get a gui [15:45] Camarade_Tux, which one will you visit? [15:45] it's a client/deamon thing [15:46] i think it's in extra/ in 12.2 [15:46] ah, so i can use it without X [15:46] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-19-66.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:46] zaltekk, yeah, simliar, except its better [15:46] i'll take a look [15:46] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:46] zaltekk, no, not really [15:46] no? [15:46] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-24-250.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:46] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [15:46] dissociative: then "rename" will do it [15:46] zaltekk, it will connect to your default profile or profiles but there is no console or curse interface yet [15:46] zaltekk, check their faq [15:46] there it seems there is small mistake in http://slackbasics.org/html/chap-filesystem.html#basics-filesystem-archives, where bzip2 filter is -j instead of -b [15:47] well, then, what would be the proper place to enable wpa_supplicant at boot time? [15:47] wicd is good for roaming [15:47] init[1], that is correct [15:47] zaltekk, check the link at alienbob wiki [15:47] okay [15:47] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:wpa [15:47] Hey, what is the right to say:"What are reasons for writing..." or "What are the reasons for writing..."? Thank you. [15:48] init[1], oh I see [15:48] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [15:48] slackytude: -j right ? [15:48] init[1], yes -j is right [15:48] b is for block [15:48] thou the article is for 12.0 , tar havn't changed ? have it ? [15:49] you could just use tar tf tho [15:49] or xf [15:49] slackytude: that is to list [15:49] tf [15:49] hey I just reinstalled the firefox and lost all prev settings ... does anyone remember how to allow firefox opening the downloaded files with one click ? I know it was somewhere in about:config ... but cannot find ......... [15:49] either way it works [15:49] tf or xf, list or extract [15:49] slackytude: for tar.bz2 ? [15:50] cmair (n=cmair@host136-41-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:50] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A729A0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] yea got it [15:51] I meant, you dont need to specify j or z or stuff [15:51] anyway, looks like you are right [15:51] ooh that mean tar understands it with extension gz? [15:52] or bz2 [15:52] modern tar is smart enough to pass decompression on to an external program when the appropriate switch is given. [15:52] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.65.164) joined ##slackware. [15:52] btw did the switch standard changed ? [15:52] no, not that I know of [15:53] any way just pointed out :) thank you [15:53] Zozma (n=Winter@98-125-96-140.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:53] init[1], you should probably alert the responsible authorities [15:53] just call 911 [15:54] omg! [15:54] 911 doesn't work here [15:54] :P [15:54] seriously [15:54] okay. that is easy enough to do [15:54] joannis (n=joannis@net-80-253-189-213.beltav.hu) joined ##slackware. [15:55] i just didn't know if trying to edit rc.inet1.conf would cause it to use wpa_supplicant.conf [15:55] thanks for the help [15:55] no sweat [15:55] oh..any ideas about the weird console wrapping thing? [15:55] akSeya (n=psycho@201.22.57.80.static.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [15:55] i used hwinfo --framebuffer, took the number for 1920x1200 24bit, and changed the vga= in lilo.conf [15:55] zaltekk, no, just sounds like incorrect framebuffer resolution. either change it or monitor settings [15:55] but now the first letter of long lines wraps around [15:56] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:56] zaltekk, got some buttons on your monitor to shift the picture left ot right? [15:56] nope. it's a laptop lcd [15:56] tough luck then [15:56] at least, afaik [15:56] what is best to use, /dev/random or /dev/urandom? [15:56] the problem is the letter being printed at the right edge of the screen. which seems as if its a software problem [15:57] and only for long output like ls /etc [15:57] i have to head to work now though, so i guess i'll try to fix it later. [15:57] omg.. Today has been the day. Started out with taking my Motorcycle getting inspected and on the way there my oil cap pops off shooting hot oil all over the back of my leg and my bike. [15:57] Plee: /dev/random blocks when there is no entropy [15:57] ok [15:57] so /dev/urandom is quicker [15:58] at the cost of less security [15:58] Got that all cleaned up and a new oil cap finally... Then i fail inspection because my horn dies right there... [15:58] agentc0re, lol [15:58] agentc0re, bad luck, mate [15:58] I confuse those two, and always guess that random is the fastest one.. hehe I should write it down :) [15:59] Lord_Khelben, hopefully secure enough.. It's for an encrypted hdd. [16:00] Plee: i am dd-ing /dev/urandom for an encrypted raid1 right now too :) [16:00] hehe nice :) [16:00] slackytude2: tell me about it!! Now i just have to survive the rest of the day. [16:00] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:00] agentc0re, godspeed [16:01] Lord_Khelben: Lame... A real person would do that by hand, one random character at a time using his own keyboard! [16:01] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:01] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [16:01] joannis (n=joannis@net-80-253-189-213.beltav.hu) left irc: "leaving" [16:01] agentc0re: hehe [16:01] slackytude2: He tends to work faster, so i probably wont be able to avoid his next obstacle either. [16:02] agentc0re, real men would set the bits via a magnet [16:02] i have 3 cats. i can have them walk on the keyboard [16:02] meow~~ [16:02] cat3 is so 1990's, cat5e is here now! [16:03] hahaha [16:03] hehe [16:03] hahaha [16:03] zaltekk (n=ztejein@host-64-234-27-197.nctv.com) left irc: "leaving" [16:03] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.13) joined ##slackware. [16:03] slackytude2: I thought real men just set the PC to explode upon the moment of compromise? [16:03] Thermite for the win! [16:03] good idea! [16:04] anyways, good night gents :) I'll dd trough the night and hopefully, it would be done tomorrow :) [16:04] Plee: mine will need 30 hours more or less :( [16:05] that's a long time :) [16:05] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:05] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [16:06] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A72F9D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:08] trick_ (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.38) joined ##slackware. [16:08] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:14] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [16:14] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:16] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl23-121.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:16] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl9-179.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:16] Lord_Khelben, 30 hours for a dd? what is this? 1TB raid5 on floppies? [16:16] Giant81_ (n=giant@h69-129-137-126.69-129.unk.tds.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:16] edman007: i did kill -USR1 and it reports 2.3MB/sec [16:16] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [16:17] Lord_Khelben, that sucks... [16:17] the disk is 250gb [16:17] nix_chix0r, i need a pony [16:17] i guess the cpu is slow and can't deliver fast random data [16:17] Lord_Khelben, hahaha ! [16:17] Lord_Khelben, I just used bc and you had transferred like 99% of it ;) [16:18] 2.3MB/sec? I know people who can generate more random data when they talk [16:18] Camarade_Tux: i didn't understand [16:18] 1073741824 bytes (1,1 GB) copied, 319,362 s, 3,4 MB/s [16:18] now its faster :) [16:18] lem1, don't be root [16:19] edman007: how much do you get ? [16:19] Lord_Khelben, I didn't read the whole backlog : for how long had you been running dd ? [16:19] Camarade_Tux: i started it less than 20min ago [16:19] Lord_Khelben, doing what? reading from urandom? [16:19] edman007: yes [16:20] Lord_Khelben, ha, ok, I thought you had been running it for abour 30 hours;) [16:20] 6.6MB/s [16:20] Camarade_Tux: i said i would need 30 hours for the 250gb rough estimate [16:20] edman007: what cpu ? or it doesn't matter [16:21] i now did something different. i ran dd to a 1gb file and will use that to fill the whole disk [16:21] not so secure but way faster :) [16:23] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426411.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:23] joannis (n=joannis@net-80-253-189-213.beltav.hu) joined ##slackware. [16:24] hmm mounted my mp3 player and tried to cp some files and i'm getting this message: cp: cannot stat `/media/homepc/The_Upgrades-Take_A_Risk-2009-FNT/02-the_upgrades-rocknfucknroll.mp3': Permission denied [16:24] what did i forget? [16:24] /media/homepc is sshfs mounted, destination is /media/mp3 [16:24] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:24] akSeya (n=psycho@201.22.57.80.static.gvt.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [16:25] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:25] grekkos, same user on both machines? or same group? [16:25] grekkos, hard to say [16:26] different user names on both machines [16:26] same group? and files are group readable? [16:26] I'm listening to one of the files now [16:27] well i mounted the sshfs as user, and the mp3 player as root, but shouldn't root be able to read it anyway ? [16:27] bingo, the mp3 as root [16:27] ah [16:27] it won't let me mount it as user though, what do I have to change to fix that? [16:28] you have to give a parameter to mount to change the permissions while mounting it [16:28] oooh [16:28] ownmask? [16:29] well you could use that or better gid and uid [16:30] would uid be a # or my username? [16:30] i don't remember if i ever tried a username there [16:30] the # should work just find [16:30] fine [16:31] replay (n=replay@69.26.205.196) joined ##slackware. [16:31] how do I get the # though [16:31] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.13) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:31] Axius (n=samyw@92.82.65.164) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:33] nvm :) [16:34] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p54A729A0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] woot [16:34] duclaws (n=chatzill@197.sub-166-143-61.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [16:36] Hi. is there a good boot cd to learn with for tools like dc3dd ddrescue and other recovery tools? [16:36] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host6-25-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:36] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A729A0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:38] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.65.164) joined ##slackware. [16:38] paul424 (i=1000@k165-242.KREDKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:39] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:39] duclaws (n=chatzill@197.sub-166-143-61.myvzw.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060214]" [16:40] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.65.164) left irc: Client Quit [16:41] slackytude3, with so many disconnections, else you're downloading a lot, else you're not downloading *anything* ;) [16:41] not anything :( [16:41] "Faith No More - Let's Lynch The Landlord", they shouldn't say that, I could want to do it ;) [16:42] email from the commandline has beaten me, i have resigned to use alpine, and the darn thing made me set up another account with adduser using the username i use for email as a user, (dont laugh) at least it works [16:42] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.220.83) left irc: "Leaving" [16:43] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.22.204) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:43] faith no more? do they do that song "easy like sunday morning"? [16:43] hey I just reinstalled the firefox and lost all prev settings ... does anyone remember how to allow firefox opening the downloaded files with one click ? IN firefox 2.0 http://rubylution.ping.de/articles/2007/09/11/open-containing-folder-in-firefox-under-linux this worked , but under firefox 3 does not . I am completly confused any help ? [16:43] or is that the Commodors [16:43] NukeDukem: fetchmail + pine [16:44] naw, i am tired of messing with it, i got alpine working, but it is not my favorite client but at least it is working [16:44] NukeDukem, Commodores ;) [16:44] and Faith No More ;) [16:45] please please help me , Haven't anyone come across that problem ? [16:46] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.22.216) joined ##slackware. [16:46] ghetto (n=ubuntu@88.227.97.59) joined ##slackware. [16:47] i like mutt's interface but it is a booger to configure and it does not have its own built in pop3 & smtp, even that website that is supposed to help build a .muttrc did not work out [16:49] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.220.83) joined ##slackware. [16:50] can anybody give some remarks about KVM or XEN? [16:50] NukeDukem, should be Faith No More's : http://tinyurl.com/kt523b (safe, trust me ;) ) [16:51] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:52] does not do any good on this laptop, i did not install Xorg, no graphical apps of any kind so i can not watch a video [16:53] NukeDukem, haha ;) [16:53] but X usually saves battery life ;) [16:54] the battery on this thing is worn out to a frazzle anyway, it only lasts an hour and takes an hour to charge up, this is too old of a laptop to bother with buying a new one, i just bought it because my desktop PC & LCD HDTV generate too much heat, this little thing dont warm up the bedroom like that desktop setup does [16:55] Ha, actually there IS a console driver for MPlayer. [16:55] replay (n=replay@69.26.205.196) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:55] it's weird watching a movie in ASCIImation [16:55] heh, yeah [16:56] cant mplayer also just use svgalib directly, w/o X ? [16:56] NukeDukem, if you want to try something, you could get some LiPoly batteries and charger, they are tinier and more powerful than LiIon, and not more expensive :) [16:56] maybe, I haven't tried that [16:56] yeah, i seen it in ascii,it is weird [16:56] (sparkfun.com has some) [16:56] and /me watches all his porn with the caca driver -_- [16:56] i'm pretty sure that's how geexbox works [16:56] caca, that's it [16:57] we should kill caca's author [16:57] caca, libtoilet, libcucul... [16:57] Ilie (i=1000@78.97.51.118) joined ##slackware. [16:57] altho I though mplayer can do real stuff on framebuffer as well [16:57] like link -g can [16:58] i did not build VESA-VGA in, i just did 16 color VGA, [16:58] yeah, hackedhead, think so too [16:58] hi guys [16:59] i did build the good fonts in [16:59] fatal: open /dev/hda : read-only file system [16:59] ? [16:59] help :) [16:59] huh? /dev/hda ? [16:59] cdrom/dvd ? [16:59] is it a CD? [16:59] dvd [17:00] >-< [17:00] Nick change: trick_ -> InspectorCluseau [17:00] thats no big deal then, you cant write to a DVD anyway (unless you have a burner) [17:00] oh [17:00] Action: VampirePenguin <3s qemu [17:00] liloI've encountered this error after you install lilo [17:01] slackytude3, /(>»<)\ [17:01] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-181.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:01] i get that read only warning too whenever i mount a dvd [17:01] ghetto, you mean you have that at boot ? [17:02] cell_x (n=cell_x@ip68-12-252-210.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.10.248) left irc: Connection timed out [17:02] [17:02] After you install lilo [17:02] [17:02] I've had this error [17:02] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] I wonder how fine tuned is really the 64 bit version of slackware [17:02] where is your root partition? [17:02] but where and when ? [17:03] hdb [17:03] where is your root partition? ghetto [17:03] will the slackware team concentrate on the 64 version or on the 32 more ? [17:03] dev/hdb3 [17:03] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:03] welll considering how meticulous pat and the crew is.. probably pretty tuned [17:03] make sure lilo.conf is pointed to /dev/hdb [17:03] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [17:04] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [17:04] look at the first line boot=/dev/hdb [17:04] VampirePenguin, qemu or kqemu? [17:04] both slackytude3 [17:05] ok. thanks friends [17:05] kqemu is the accelerator [17:05] VampirePenguin, ever tried Xen? xen docu sucks compared to kvm [17:05] did that fix it? [17:05] Hi, Im trying to change add an argument to mkfs.xfs when installing slackware. Anybody know where it's hiding on the ISO? I tried find . | xargs grep -i mkfs.xfs but didn't see anything unless it's kept away in a package along the way. [17:05] it involves a special kernel... its easier to just modprobe kqemu [17:06] cell_x: that's because its part of the xfsprogs package [17:06] not sure how its laid out on the installer cd though [17:06] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [17:08] VampirePenguin, yeah. and kvm benchmark looks nice [17:08] Im pretty much settled on kvm, just gettin opinions [17:08] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:08] i got burned a few xs by vbox so i was like no more [17:08] i think ovf will do more [17:08] since it looks like the windows admin will screw up ESXi anywa [17:08] man.. if I could do kvm.. probably would [17:09] we got a nice 64bit VT enabled 8Gig of RAM machine ^-^ [17:09] vbox can supposedly clone... but i can copy a qemu img/qcow adn be up and running in another vm in secs [17:09] just for virtualisation [17:10] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:10] Dominian, why cant you? [17:10] the processor has to support it [17:10] well, yeah [17:10] :) [17:11] VMWare ftw [17:11] vmware / [17:11] VirtualBox [17:11] VMWare is nice too, but expensive [17:11] cant use vmware bc it needs pam and its dependencies and i dont wnt to install pam [17:11] XenServer is nice [17:11] VampirePenguin: Workstation doesn't.. [17:11] VampirePenguin: Pam is super easy to install on Slackware [17:11] it doesn't [17:11] only server does [17:11] ESXi <3<3 [17:11] use workstation ftw [17:11] server 2 is a peice of shit anyway [17:11] and get working with server 2 [17:11] afaik VMWare workstation and server dont support the VT stuff [17:12] slackytude3: yes they do.. [17:12] not as good as KVm anyway [17:12] or ESXi [17:12] VT? [17:12] i believe it was workstation i last looked at and it wanted pam [17:12] It uses VT just fine [17:12] no, i'm using 6.5.2 right now [17:12] And its required for 64-bit guest support [17:12] i dont like that layer.. i think the perms and groups are more than sufficient for security and access [17:12] straterra, but faster than KVM? [17:12] 6.5.1, sorry [17:12] VampirePenguin: Workstation has never needed pam [17:12] ghetto (n=ubuntu@88.227.97.59) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [17:12] only server has [17:13] maybe i was looking at that one [17:13] slackytude3: from what I can tell, its real time [17:13] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.88.15.2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:13] straterra, got benchmarks? [17:13] i hade a few balls in the air at the t ime i was researching it out [17:13] Nope. [17:13] Just from me using workstation every day [17:13] whats the point in getting ESXi then? [17:13] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "puta merda!" [17:14] its actually the os [17:14] Because workstation isnt the right product for a server.. [17:14] Dominian, tried XenServer? [17:14] and you buuild your vms on top [17:14] esxi is its own hypervisor and such [17:14] brb >.> [17:14] it has its own management tools.. [17:14] esxi is the hypervisor, yeah [17:14] which are expensive [17:14] esxi is free [17:14] unless you mean in terms of performance..and its really not [17:14] all vmware stuff is [17:14] not the management stuff. also it has limitations on cores and machines [17:15] http://pastebin.com/m690bd6af [17:15] It has the management stuff.. [17:15] for free? [17:15] ya [17:15] yes, it has limitations..thats why ESX exists [17:15] Yes, for free [17:15] its theyre top of the line [17:15] ESXi is just ESX stripped down [17:15] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [17:15] without the command line stuff included [17:15] what command line stuff? [17:16] my little bitty drive [17:16] ESXi has a unsupported cli [17:16] as does esx.. [17:16] slackytude3: I'm on XenServer right now [17:16] ESX i dont know about.. [17:16] VMware ESX relies on a Linux operating system, called the service console, to perform two management functions: executing scripts and installing third party agents for hardware monitoring, backup or systems management. The service console has been removed from ESXi [17:16] ESX does [17:16] deco (n=chatzill@adsl-69-108-74-161.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:16] oki [17:16] cmair82 (n=cmair@host42-111-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:17] ESXI = ESX - Service Console [17:17] and no snmpd [17:17] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:17] and lot of other limitations in free version [17:17] unless there is a way to get snmpd on esxi.. plz tell me :) [17:17] GArik_ (n=wesnoth@mpd-1669.tvcom.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [17:18] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [17:18] and I didnt find any free managment stuff for ESXi either on the vmware site. there might be a webgui thingy but thats just what someone toldme [17:19] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:19] Dominian, easy to setup? [17:19] No.. [17:19] heh [17:20] You download the client over HTTP from the esxi server [17:20] the vic [17:20] Just like in ESX [17:20] and the infrasturcture client is free? [17:20] yes [17:20] Yes.. [17:20] You download it from ESX/ESXi [17:20] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl9-179.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [17:21] monstro (i=1000@201-68-35-29.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:21] vcenter is nice.. but not free ofc.. [17:22] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:23] that sounds good [17:24] so, ESXi might be an option too [17:24] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [17:25] thrice` (n=thrice@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:25] thrice` (i=thrice@unaffiliated/thrice/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [17:25] lw0x15_ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:25] hmm. Anyone here know the incoming attachment size limit for yahoo email? [17:25] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.88.168) left irc: "Leaving." [17:25] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) left irc: "Leaving" [17:26] just sent somebody an 8 meg file, now it occurs to me he might not get it... [17:27] Ilie (i=1000@78.97.51.118) left irc: "Leaving" [17:27] N 18th and State (near), Kansas City, Kansas: Temperature (102.4°F) [17:27] feels like 111H [17:27] err [17:27] 111F [17:27] fu ntimes [17:27] Postfix default maximum (Y! does not use Postfix) is 10 million bytes. [17:27] meh keyboard failure [17:27] Note that an 8MB binary file might be 12MB or more, uuencoded. [17:28] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-426411.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:28] juice: is the postal union office still there on 17th? [17:28] Urchlay: did yahoo reject it? [17:28] apparently not. At least, I haven't received a bounce message [17:28] I spent a lot of time in that neighborhood in the mid-80's. [17:29] rob0: yah, I know... and 10MB is a typical free-mail provider limit, which is why I was a bit worried [17:29] ? [17:29] hopefully it didn't silently drop it on the floor [17:30] What I do when I have something big to email: post it on the Web somewhere and send a URL. [17:30] Yahoo doesn't silently discard, afaik. [17:30] not sure I don't recall one there, I haven't needed to go to the post office the one I know of is on like 40-50 and state in a shopping center [17:30] Hotmail does [17:30] our exchange server is a bitch like that too [17:30] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-117-189.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:31] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.86.220.83) left irc: "Leaving" [17:31] altho i still haven't figured out how to natively connect to an exchange server via thunderbird (and it doesn't look like it'll ever work) [17:31] juice, not a post office, a union office for postal employees. [17:31] currently have no place to post anything on the web [17:32] oh oops [17:32] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "test34" [17:32] the novelty of "omg, cool, I have a web site!" wore off years ago [17:32] Necos: you can't use imap? [17:33] Urchlay, true, but its nice to have a place to ssh to [17:33] anyhow I don't think so [17:33] Necos: your exchange admin has to enable IMAP [17:33] Action: rob0 should look at the satellite photos [17:33] straterra: nope [17:33] only internally [17:33] but not at home [17:34] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [17:34] internally? [17:35] rob0, streetview on google maps [17:35] juice: the place is actually south of Minnesota on 17th, and lo and behold, there it is in street view :) [17:35] ok [17:35] don't drive up and down minn. much either [17:36] usually use state [17:36] Action: rob0 usually preferred to stay out of KCK altogether ;) [17:36] not that bad [17:36] i live on 19th and nebreska [17:36] err nebraska [17:37] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [17:37] rhys (n=rhys@cpe-75-185-191-55.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:37] alicephilippa (n=alice@89.194.136.207) joined ##slackware. [17:37] As a kid I lived in Mo, just east of that little park at 47th & State Line. [17:38] XandriX2 (n=xandrix@dsl-142-130.aei.ca) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:38] ever been to Alton illinois? [17:38] later on I lived in Shawnee, O.P., Olathe, and Belton. [17:38] XandriX (n=xandrix@dsl-141-83.aei.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:38] but I've been out of KC area now for 10+ years [17:39] 12 actually [17:39] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [17:39] i used pick up loads of steel on a flatbed trailor in Alton [17:39] alton ... I think I went through there on I-270? [17:40] its just across the border from St. Louis Mo [17:40] near those mounds? [17:40] right across the river [17:40] peeps_ (n=ubuntu@cpe-72-179-183-50.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:40] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:41] no, 270 runs south of Alton [17:41] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-165-4.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:41] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [17:41] i dont remember any mounds, i always got to Alton at night went to sleep in the truck at the steel foundry, woke up when i felt the forklift loading the trailor, and left as soon as he was done [17:42] there is some mounds built by the ancient mound builders just across the river there, it is hard to believe they are man made [17:42] i took 44 to st louis, crossed the river on that funky modern style bridge and followed the signs to alton [17:43] i seen a documentary on the History channel about those mound builders, those mounds are amazing [17:43] now i know what mounds you are talking about [17:44] lol [17:44] I am not sure if they are in Alton or East St Louis [17:44] there are mounds skattered around all over that area [17:45] cool [17:45] Cahokia Mounds? [17:46] juice: that sounds about right, in school they mostly called them "The Mound Builders" though [17:48] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:48] http://www.jqjacobs.net/blog/cahokia.html [17:48] these? [17:48] yep thats them [17:48] just across the river from downtown St Louis [17:49] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [17:49] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:49] i've drove throught there like 20 times [17:49] I got in a argument with my brother that they were man made, he didn't believe it [17:49] and never noticed them [17:49] lol [17:49] s/throught/through [17:49] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.72.46) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:51] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.72.46) joined ##slackware. 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[19:36] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:36] haha [19:37] well im comming from debian give me some slack :P [19:37] WELL YOU ARE AT THE RIGHT PLACE FOR SLACK [19:37] oops [19:37] capslocks [19:37] thank's for all the slack [19:37] np [19:37] welcome to slack [19:37] thank you ^^ [19:38] with cd1 you just get a cli right? [19:38] checking out the info in /topic is highly recommended [19:38] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.34.159) left irc: Connection timed out [19:38] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:38] chopp: yeah i checked it read almost all the book . just had doubts over which cds etc... [19:39] xabi: here is whats on each cd http://www.slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php [19:39] cd1 should give you instructions on what to type and shiat and during install you get a installation menu that makes it very easy [19:40] chopp: ah thanks! [19:40] xabi: you're welcome [19:41] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.38) left irc: [19:42] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:47] we have had several debian converts lately in here [19:47] dtanner: indeed. [19:49] what is that package manager for debian ? "get-this" or apt something? [19:50] apt-get... which is a bit of a confusing name, since you also use it to remove packages (no getting involved there...) [19:50] "slapt-this" [19:50] yeah apt-get remove :P [19:50] there's also aptitude (which they recommend to use over apt-get.) [19:51] oh i see , that is where that convoluted slapt-get got its name [19:51] y0 dtanner. [19:51] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [19:51] pkg_add -r FreeBSD [19:51] Hey Urchlay [19:51] hey firebird619 [19:51] Heya BP{k} [19:51] dtanner: yeah, it actually doesn't have anything to do with slapping anyone (although it maybe should...) [19:51] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:51] in that context it does :P [19:52] peeps_ (n=ubuntu@cpe-72-179-183-50.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:52] TheBig (n=TheBig@151.16.183.97) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:52] firebird619: howdy, how goes? [19:52] hmmm, i have been thinking about dual booting freebsd just for the heck of it [19:54] BP{k}: goes great, thanks. yourself? [19:54] __raFaeL__ (n=rafaelk@189.70.111.169) left irc: "Leaving" [19:54] i would be dualbooting slack & freebsd too if freebsd supported my wifi card [19:54] pkg_add -r kde4:) [19:54] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] xabi: don't let us scare you away. we are really a good group of folks here. =) [19:54] Hey hitest, how are you? [19:55] except watch out for firebird619 [19:55] haha [19:55] I'm good, firebird619, ty:) how are you? [19:55] he will haxor j00 [19:55] dtanner: hehe you guys are cool , :-) [19:55] hitest: doing great, thanks. It's really hot and humid outside agian. [19:55] again even [19:55] rainy and wet here about 12 C. [19:56] it is 101 F here clear skies and burnihng fscking hot firebird619 [19:56] -h [19:56] 101! holy s#it [19:56] yup [19:56] welcome to Texas [19:56] carry an IV with you when you go outside [19:56] cold beer weather [19:57] We've had crazy storm alerts all day, so it's only 29 here [19:57] 29 C [19:57] dtanner: It's 90F here. [19:57] my AC has been working very hard all day long [19:58] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:58] i wish the community pool wasn't 1 mile away! [19:58] dtanner: It gets to 100 sometimes here in mid-summer, only add on to that 60% or above humidity. [19:58] in my old house it was right across the street [19:59] yeah, the humidity here is not as bad as when i lived in Lousiana. stays above 90% damn near all summer and hits 100% ALL the time with the 100+ temps [19:59] http://imagebin.org/53457 lol! [19:59] err hits 100% humidity and 100+ F temp all the time in Louisiana [20:00] step outside into that frmo the AC and it is like you hit an invisible wall [20:00] help40 (n=help40@h81-88-124-14.rev.domonet.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:00] dont worry, that url is safe (rated G) [20:00] haha .. nice pic [20:00] hahaha [20:00] NukeDukem: LOL [20:00] y0 agentc0re [20:00] that needs to go on failblog. [20:01] when i first bought my first motorcycle in 1998 (HD - Buell) it had hard shell saddlebags, i went to the grocery store and bought a few things and stuffed the bags into my bags [20:01] we know how much you like bags so we gave you bags so you can put bags in your bags YEAH BRO [20:02] went home and left the BACON in the bags by accident. the next morning it had scratches all over it from dogs trying to get at the bacon [20:02] lol [20:02] lmao [20:02] lol [20:02] hahaha [20:02] ewwww [20:02] Action: Urchlay imagines the stench [20:02] i put bags in my bags for the bags to get out the bags [20:02] I can't blame them, bacon is good [20:02] Would have been even better if the dogs had gotten to the bacon through the bags. [20:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:02] i gotta show that to my wife, then ask her if i can buy a motorcycle [20:02] tell me this at least didn't happen during high summer [20:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:03] I have hard leather bags on my Sportster. [20:03] ummmm [20:03] coffeeguy37 (n=coffeegu@c-24-126-161-102.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:03] i have the soft bags on my dyna now [20:03] but they are the synthetic leather [20:04] trunks are for cars :P as are windshields [20:04] which will last longer but i wish i would have gotten hardshell detachable [20:04] get fibreglass saddlebags then you can use them as ice chests to keep beer cold on those rides in the country [20:04] chopp: yeah but sometimes ya just need a way to carry "stuff" [20:05] my bike looks a lot better with the bags off for sure [20:05] tical2k (n=lihduebl@cpe-098-026-076-115.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:05] as are electric starts [20:05] old school chopp. i love it man [20:05] don't mind me. Old school [20:06] haha [20:06] damn this icee is good [20:06] chopp: have a pic of your bike? [20:06] other_rafa (n=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) joined ##slackware. [20:07] http://media.nscdn.com/uploads/cache/images/1242258119-780494-356x609-diesel.jpg [20:07] not a recent one [20:08] haha [20:08] hmmm. shoutcast has a gui now? i just saw it on a ss [20:08] chopp's bike ---------------> http://edinburgh.gumtree.com/edinburgh/46/40729246.html [20:09] just re-painted [20:09] hey where did you get that! [20:09] *snicker* leave my fellow biker alone man! [20:09] hahah [20:09] ape hangers ftw [20:10] front fenders are for wimps though [20:11] so many nice harleys in calgary when it's warm and sunny out [20:11] chopp, nice ride [20:11] ....WTF! http://tinyurl.com/lnalq5 I found this on failblog.. and there are others.. http://failblog.org/page/4/ Not of the same thing of course. [20:13] agentc0re, omg! everyone knows babies prefer hard liquor over beer! [20:13] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [20:14] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [20:14] edman007: But those tattoo's.... [20:14] yea, i know, its not even the best part of the movie [20:14] Q: Where's the GUI version? [20:14] A: Read http://irssi.org/about [20:14] hahahaaaaa [20:15] lol [20:15] Elektro_{-_-}_ (n=pse@207.85-84-197.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [20:15] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.181.33) joined ##slackware. [20:15] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [20:19] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [20:20] dtanner: here is my bike about a year after I got it. Now it has a 6 over down tubes, open 3" primo belt drive, 24" apes, kick only, corbin seat, rear chain, 16" front tire, single bob style tank [20:20] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:20] http://chopp.homelinux.com:8080/tmp/stocksucks.jpg [20:21] softtail -- sweet [20:21] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d206-75-63-100.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:21] you have bags ! [20:22] you must have heading out across country or going camping [20:22] oh, i thought that was a really comfortable backrest :P [20:22] lol [20:22] man that seat looks comfortable [20:22] antler: =0 [20:22] I also raked the fram 4deg, controls are also 4" forward of where they are there, and yes that was a trip to sturgis [20:23] /s/fram/frame [20:25] how was sturgis? [20:25] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: "just for today" [20:26] sturgis is awsome. I was there 8 years in a row [20:26] cool. never been. [20:26] a looong ride from here [20:26] how many miles for you? [20:27] you have to go at least once [20:27] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [20:27] yup, i plan on it. [20:27] about 1200 [20:27] dtanner: I don't know if they still do, but Sturgis used to have live cams set up to watch online, not the same as going there, but fun to watch sometimes. [20:27] Hey chopp [20:27] chopp is NOT a weekend biker =) [20:28] firebird619: yes there are a few, mostly main street [20:28] yeah [20:28] I just didn't know if they still had them, I haven't checked for the past 2-3 years. [20:28] dtanner: well lets just say I'm a member of what we call the million mile club :P [20:28] no shit! [20:29] \o/ [20:29] hard ass! [20:29] bad ass [20:29] ever been to the ROT Ralley here in Austin? [20:30] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [20:30] dtanner: no I have not. I still want to do a cross america trip though, so you never know [20:30] http://www.rotrally.com/onsite_video.asp [20:31] haha did I ever tell you I ran into evil knievel at a gas station in Montana [20:32] 2009 footage. Robbie Knievel made a jump this year [20:32] http://chopp.homelinux.com:8080/tmp/evil.jpg [20:32] at the ROT Rally [20:32] cool [20:32] that is cool you met Evil [20:33] It was cool yup [20:33] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtbcAjN-VWY [20:34] robbys jump a couple of weeks ago ^ [20:34] I have a hard time going to some rallies because I sometimes clash with the yuppies [20:34] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [20:34] yeah i know, they are getting that way [20:35] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:37] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] hmm guess ubuntu is big sort of comptia actually realizes it a bit [20:38] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [20:39] comtia? [20:39] comptia [20:39] yeah [20:40] it's a computer license company [20:40] for Tech's and such like Comptia Linux(plus) [20:40] as soon as ubuntu starts being "not so free" lots of people would move to other distros [20:40] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:41] ubuntu is not geared toward the free anyways [20:41] define 'not so free' [20:42] do you think they might pull what redhat did a few years ago, when redhat ISOs nolonger were available, then the community raised a big stink about it so they spun off fedora [20:42] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:42] he community didn't spun off fedora anyways fedora is just the test bed for RHEL [20:43] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:43] i remember when redhat did that, and a heck of a lot of people raised a really big stink about it online, it was several months before fedora was released [20:44] NukeDukem : no, they won't [20:44] antiwire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBeEFdEzu5M&feature=PlayList&p=53853C3D6576A7D5&index=0&playnext=1 [20:46] CleverGirl (i=mahirdem@41.236.14.174) joined ##slackware. [20:47] And then CentOS was created. [20:48] i remember, there are a lot of people that dont remeber that, you know what they say, "those that forget their history are doomed the repeat the mistakes of the past" or something like that [20:48] NukeDukem, RedHat also catered to the business and enterprise market. You basically needed to have a support contract with them to use RedHat. [20:49] NukeDukem : you're not that special, others remember it too [20:49] i remember buying a retail box of redhat-7.1 at a local office supply store for about 39 dollars and got free updates for a year [20:49] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p54A729A0.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [20:49] sentabi- (i=sentabi-@unaffiliated/sentabi) left irc: Connection timed out [20:50] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:51] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.72.46) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:52] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [20:52] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A729A0.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:54] Speaking of CompTIA (above), I hold Linux+ [20:54] Also, I found my first Linux distro. [20:55] RedHat 5.2. Published by Macmillian. [20:55] Bought it August of 1999 (receipt was in the case). [20:55] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: Connection reset by peer [20:56] grekkos (n=grekkos@pool-173-52-69-54.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "byebie" [20:57] ubuntu (n=ubuntu@cpe-72-179-183-50.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:57] Troll alert! [20:59] agentc0re|work, wtf? [21:00] maybe not.. [21:00] i saw, (06:57:20 PM) ubuntu [n=ubuntu@cpe-72-179-183-50.satx.res.rr.com] entered the room. and figured it was a troll. [21:00] maybe it's a special hiding troll [21:01] /shurg [21:01] noizze_ (n=noise@p549CE99E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:01] right. you figured it out all based on the fact that somebody has a nickname equal to . bravo [21:02] only because it's happened before. [21:03] mshade (n=mshade@ip68-100-212-163.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:22] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:23] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) left irc: "Leaving" [21:25] so my friend just nuked his partition table by accident. it had probably a couple of ntfs or fat32 partitions and an ext4 partition. is there some way to easily rebuild that partition table? [21:26] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d206-75-63-100.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [21:26] Ubuntu 10.2 "Sexy Somalian" http://www.jonramvi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/bob.png genius [21:27] if you know exactly what the partitions were, it should be recoverable [21:27] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:27] That is to say, I have done something similar, and suffered no disaster therefrom. [21:27] rob0: yeah, i told him that, but he doesn't know what they were [21:28] i found via google this thing called 'gpart' which will apparently scan the disk and look for patition headers [21:28] hi [21:29] Oh, the old Norton Disk Doctor did that too, but I have no idea if any proprietary software would be smart enough in today's world. [21:29] sos_ (i=1000@117.200.49.55) joined ##slackware. [21:30] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [21:30] caio (n=caio@190.244.61.176) left irc: Nick collision from services. [21:31] caio (n=caio@190.244.61.176) joined ##slackware. [21:31] Nick change: caio -> Guest17783 [21:31] amazon10x: testdisk is a good tool for that. [21:31] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:33] bbl....supper [21:34] amazon10x : gpart [21:34] doh, you already found it [21:35] sos_ (i=1000@117.200.49.55) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:35] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-71-77.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:35] CleverGirl (i=mahirdem@41.236.14.174) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:38] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-71-77.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:38] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [21:42] chopp: is this that old dude's bike? ---------------> http://chopp.homelinux.com:8080/tmp/evil.jpg [21:42] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-19-66.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:43] yup :) well was [21:43] holy midlife crisis batman! [21:43] j/k it rocks [21:44] thats Evil Knieval man [21:44] oh man, seriously? you met him? [21:44] cool [21:45] yeah it was awsome. He was cool to talk to [21:46] He had three broken ribs at the time from slipping and falling getting out of his hot tub, and said something to the effect of "I'm so damn accident prone" :P [21:47] "contrary to rumors, Slackware 64 is not Slackware for the Commodore 64" [21:48] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:48] chopp, you're the biker ? but who is the other guy ? [21:48] ORLY? [21:48] no really? [21:48] chopp: hahaha [21:49] Thom1: evil knievel [21:49] sos_ (i=1000@117.200.49.55) joined ##slackware. [21:49] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evel_Knievel [21:50] my first guess would've been super dave osborne :P [21:50] I don't know him [21:50] haha [21:50] is he a star in america ? [21:51] well maybe read the wiki link I posted [21:51] sos_ (i=1000@117.200.49.55) left irc: Client Quit [21:51] Thom1: very famous for motorcycle jumps [21:51] he is also deceased [21:52] chopp: you didn't see him in edmonton, did you? [21:52] I remember the Snake River Canyon attempt [21:52] I remember thinking he died in that [21:52] antler: no in Butte Montana [21:52] ah [21:53] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:54] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:54] brklynRednek (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [21:55] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.198.139) joined ##slackware. [21:55] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [21:56] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:56] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:56] is robbie any good? i haven't seen anything he's done [21:57] yeah I've only seen a few of his jumps. He inherited the balls, but not quite as crazy as his father was. [21:58] maybe smarter? who knows :) [21:59] noizze__ (n=noise@p549CBD8F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [22:00] robbie does not jump that much anymore [22:03] i just read (on the wiki) that he'll attemp to clear 16 buses on a similar bike to the one evel used [22:04] what about Evil Kneivel? [22:04] oh you mentioned him... who is Robbie? [22:04] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-1.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] chopp met the man [22:05] live long and prosper [22:06] chopp: what are the balls? [22:06] ones he jumps over? [22:06] cell_x (n=cell_x@ip68-12-252-210.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: [22:06] no the ones he landed on [22:07] how does he get off of them? [22:07] other_rafa (n=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) left irc: "Leaving" [22:08] number_three (n=dave@ppp-70-225-139-9.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [22:08] zhoun (n=guo@218.82.98.110) joined ##slackware. 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[22:14] :) [22:16] noizze_ (n=noise@p549CE99E.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:20] damn, why everytime I go to use scp, I try -pxx instead of -P xx ..must be a memory thing :P [22:22] Guest17783 (n=caio@190.244.61.176) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:22] I remember to do something special with the p switch because scp has a p in it [22:23] chopp: .ssh/config is your friend if it's a host you use often ;) [22:24] like the richard pryor movie "moving" porch!!! shrub!!! ..only in this case ssh!!! scp!!! hey antiwire, that'll work :) [22:24] u can add a item in .ssh/config [22:25] I will now [22:26] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:26] today wasn't wasted after all [22:26] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:27] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [22:28] Fenix-Dark (n=lkjdlkja@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] hello gents [22:28] zyfter (i=d90840c4@gateway/web/freenode/x-7bb95525a3d7a904) joined ##slackware. [22:29] i want to get a new sound card that has the standard (relatively speaking) pintout for the case audio/mic jacks, know of any such cards that work well in linux with hardware accel? [22:30] hi Fenix-Dark [22:30] hello Thom1 [22:30] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-80-157.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-128-245.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:30] i'm currently using an audigy 2 zs (afaik its the best supported linux sound card, though it lacks the proper pinout i desire) [22:32] I'm using a half-broken Intel HDA. [22:32] The on-board RealTek/ALC chips work decently too. [22:32] games are especially picky with the audio setup [22:33] i have one of these http://www.making-music.com/waveterminal-192m-egosys.html that i can't get working . shame. [22:33] speaking about soundcards [22:33] y0 antler [22:33] hey firebird619 . how you doin' (joey tribiani voice) [22:34] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [22:34] antler: doing great, thanks. yourself? [22:34] how's the state of the creative xfi support? [22:34] tired from the day, but otherwise terrific, thanks :) [22:35] still on flux? (this is the last I'll ask, or you'll probably put me on /ignore) :P [22:35] hahah yeppers! :D [22:35] nice [22:35] Check the ALSA site? [22:35] firebird619: which are you on now? [22:36] firebird619: he is truly hooked [22:36] antler: flux :) [22:36] chopp: I think so. [22:36] yeah, it's quite nice [22:36] quite nice n' fast [22:36] Action: firebird619 high fives chopp. One more to the flux side. :D [22:36] haha [22:37] Motoko-chan, all that is mentioned is that it is in testing [22:37] klontj (i=c721ad01@gateway/web/freenode/x-3226d58dc4a7f3c1) joined ##slackware. [22:37] on a slightly less related note, anyone know of a decent stand alone mic to clip onto my headphones/shirt? [22:38] i bought the plantronics gamecom 377 headset and it sounds rather horrible and i'd rather use my sure headphones with a stand alone mic [22:38] gonna return the headset tomorrow [22:38] firebird619: i was turned off of it a while back because unchecking 'opaque window moving' would cause video to pause, something i didn't like much. then purely by accident, enabling 'opaque window moving' and moving windows around didn't [22:38] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.34.90) joined ##slackware. [22:39] *would cause video to pause when i moved windows around [22:40] that's odd behavior. [22:40] glad it works now for ya. :D [22:40] antler: well you're supposed to be paying attention to whats playing, not messing with windows. :P [22:41] firebird619: it's inherent to fluxbox, i recently read. try it. disable 'opaque windows' and move a terminal around [22:41] haha [22:41] chopp: hahah true [22:41] firebird619: (play a video while you're moving it) [22:41] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:41] damn calgarians anyway [22:42] zyfter (i=d90840c4@gateway/web/freenode/x-7bb95525a3d7a904) left irc: "Page closed" [22:42] antler: alright, I'll try it. :) [22:42] chopp: hey! [22:42] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:43] Action: chopp prepares to be fired upon [22:43] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:43] chopp: we used to have a radio program that featured, "Things Edmontonians Don't Know". it was at times funny :P [22:43] lol I bet [22:44] by the way, I much prefer calgary to edmonton [22:45] man, insurance is weird stuff. deductibles and other craziness [22:46] klontj (i=c721ad01@gateway/web/freenode/x-3226d58dc4a7f3c1) left irc: "Page closed" [22:46] chopp: calgary... edmonton... both the same to me. [22:46] chopp: i gotta get my ass out of alberta [22:47] is there a way to stop ccache from renaming the files that get passed on to the compiler? [22:47] Action: antler wonders whether there's still that gold rush happening in california [22:47] antler: leaving the country? or just somewhere else in ca [22:47] amazon10x: either, but i like canada [22:48] i'm looking at distccmon and it's pretty useless if everything is named "tmp.eleanor.localhost.mai..." [22:48] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-19-66.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:49] okay, does anyone here have motorcycle insurance? i'm looking at quotes online [22:49] antler: AHHHH, that's annoying. [22:49] it looks like if you basically select "no coverage" for everything, it costs like $10/mo haha [22:49] firebird619: indeed it is [22:50] slKIvs (n=ivan@113.115.79.69.dsl.intelnet.net.gt) joined ##slackware. [22:53] amazon10x: I'm without a license at the moment, so the only bike insurance I have is a twelve gauge, and a sign on the shop that reads "best make funeral arrangements first" :P [22:53] firebird619: that characteristic seems contrary to, um, i dunno, the spirit of fluxbox. disabling 'opaque windows moving' in windows, or in kde, for example, makes them go faster [22:53] haha [22:53] firebird619: i believe the same is true of xfce4 (video pauses) [22:54] chopp: hahaha [22:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:55] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-71-77.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Deuces." [22:56] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [22:56] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:57] hmm.... is there a way to get rid of the windows position display box whenever i move a window in fluxbox. i REALLY don't need to know the position relative to the x and y axes. [22:59] joshyro (n=josh@189.149.150.231) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [23:00] antler: ~/.fluxbox/init session.screen0.showwindowposition:true to false [23:00] change the true to false. :) [23:01] firebird619: my lazy ass coulda googled that, i guess :P [23:01] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] indeed it could have. [23:01] but it didn't [23:01] flow (i=462626a4@gateway/web/freenode/x-9b201cce2c02757a) joined ##slackware. [23:01] j0z (n=UNIX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:01] hahaha [23:02] firebird619: thanks :D [23:02] yw [23:02] I hate my ISP......"premium DSL.".....bullsh*t. [23:02] hehe [23:03] hey hitest. :) [23:03] hi frebird619:) [23:03] firebird619 [23:03] NukeDukem (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:03] bad typing this evening [23:03] Nick change: flow -> fl0w [23:05] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] hey freebird's a cool nick. hi, everyone. "cause I'm as free as a bird now, and this bird you can not change. lord knows, I can't change." --lynyrd skynyrd [23:08] Nick change: firebird619 -> freebird619 [23:08] :D [23:08] awesome [23:08] well, "i'm as free as a bird619 now"?? hmmm [23:08] haha [23:09] doesn't sound as good, eh? [23:09] Nick change: freebird619 -> freebird [23:09] :D [23:09] i just took myself down memory lane. great song. [23:09] how to install compiz-fusion ? i have downloaded tarballs from slackbuilds.org ( http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=compiz&sv=12.2 ) do i any any other packages also ! or these packages are enough to get compiz-fusion working on slackware ?? [23:09] antler: you mean you actually had a moment of non-laziness and went down memory lane? [23:10] fl0w: last i read, all the deps are listed. [23:10] freebird: my mental faculty is not so lazy. it's the physicality of the thang. [23:10] :D [23:11] it's the actual clicking of the mouse that gets me [23:11] okay ! so i need to do is to install those packages only to get compiz ? right ? [23:11] antler: Ah, ok. :) [23:11] fl0w: unless that particular contributor to sbo is a liar. [23:11] fl0w: yes. [23:11] okay ! thanks :) [23:12] fl0w: and the one who approved it is also in on the lie [23:12] which is doubtful. ;) [23:13] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:13] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:14] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.30.211) joined ##slackware. [23:15] mac_s (n=mac@sunrise.pi.net.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:17] *freebird leaves droppings all over hitest 's computer. [23:19] antler: gall dang you, you weren't suppose to say it was me. :P [23:19] How to connect to the internet with slackware 4.0 ? I have a modem speedtouch 516 [23:19] wow [23:19] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-150-162.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:19] haha [23:20] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-130-254.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [23:20] adeodatus: why such an old version? [23:20] yersteday, a guy has installed slackware-1.1.2 with linux-0.99.15 on a old computer [23:20] delt0r_ (n=delt0r@62-47-150-162.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:20] delt0r__ (n=delt0r@62-47-130-254.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [23:20] he tried successfully to use his network card [23:21] I like the old still. [23:21] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:23] if this isn't a troll, I'm freakin batman [23:23] who's batwomen then? [23:23] s/batwomen/batwoman/ [23:24] antler: LMAO......I step away from my PC and then I read your post [23:24] hitest: shouldn't have left. :D [23:24] haha [23:24] you allowed freebird to strike. :D [23:25] yes [23:25] Action: freebird watches hitest replace his keyboard. :) [23:25] *****now where did I put my shot gun?***** [23:25] oh crap [23:25] Action: freebird runs [23:25] time to bag some birds [23:25] err. s/runs/flies like a bat out of heck/ [23:25] lol [23:25] hehe [23:26] AHHH, NO, a window cleaned with windex. [23:26] this bird's goin down. :( [23:26] splat [23:26] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) joined ##slackware. [23:26] may day, may day [23:26] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.50.51) joined ##slackware. [23:26] Action: freebird sends a flock of pidgeons in hitest's direction [23:26] followed by a flock of geese. [23:26] oh crap [23:27] bryanlharris (n=bharris@xob.neospire.net) joined ##slackware. [23:27] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.30.211) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:27] crap? literally. :D [23:27] alfred hitchcock's 'birds' [23:27] it's raining dung [23:27] freebird 1 hitest 0 [23:27] do i need to make these change to install compiz-f. http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Intel%20with%20Xgl and http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Intel%20with%20AiGLX ?? ( i m using Xfce D.E [23:27] ?? [23:27] that's okay [23:28] Any idea why I can't hold down alt+mouse1 in order to drag an rdesktop window in slack+xfce? It worked fine in kde as I recall [23:28] I *know* where you live freebird muhahaha [23:28] also it works for dragging other windows, just not rdesktop [23:28] Action: freebird watches hitest set up a cannon. [23:28] gulp [23:29] worse than that.......I'll install Windows ME on all of your PCs while you're at work and dual boot them with ubuntu [23:29] eww [23:29] ouch [23:29] that's cruel. [23:29] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:29] and unusual [23:29] yes [23:30] is this necessary to install compiz ?? = http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Intel%20with%20Xgl ???? [23:30] Action: freebird installs Windows 3.1 on hitest's machine. :) [23:30] dualbooting with OpenSuse. [23:30] bryanlharris (n=bharris@xob.neospire.net) left ##slackware. [23:30] ewwwwwwww [23:30] Action: ferdna slaps ferdna around a bit with a large trout [23:30] my eyes [23:31] re :is this necessary to install compiz ?? = http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Intel%20with%20Xgl ???? ( please reply ) [23:31] fl0w: You don't need to repeat your question. Ask once, then wait for a response. [23:31] okay ! waiting [23:31] hiptobecubic: re your query in #hal (it's a dead channel basically)... your custom keymap file is in the same format as the others in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols ? [23:32] fl0w: if someone knows and is willing to answer they will [23:32] is there any slackware user using compiz-fusion ! he can help me best :) [23:32] rworkman, oh good. i know hal is dead but i always feel like jerk complaining about slow, free, voluntary help. yes my keymap is an adaptation of the default /etc/X11/xkb/symbols [23:33] fl0w, I don't use compiz [23:33] twolf: are you still running folding@home? [23:33] Thom1: which is your fav. D.E ?? [23:33] :P [23:33] fl0w, pekwm [23:33] chopp: yeah, I am, it is running on an old machine [23:34] twolf: ahh cool [23:34] folding? which cause is that? [23:34] plugging away like a champ [23:34] hiptobecubic: that being the case, I *think* you can copy /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy and edit it accordingly (i.e. replace 'us' with 'yourname') [23:35] hiptobecubic: http://folding.stanford.edu/ [23:35] Dinde (i=kayser@sur-internet.net) got netsplit. 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[23:42] lol [23:42] http://www.noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1313 [23:43] man [23:43] I need to fix that [23:43] that index.php shouldn't be there.. looks tacky [23:43] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1313 [23:43] first is to learn how to spell, "what" instead of "wat". :P [23:43] Thom1: where i can find docs ? any link ? [23:43] Happy now? :) [23:43] rworkman: although.. you just gave me a great idea... [23:43] I'll have to figure out how to implement it he he [23:43] Yeah, I'm good at that :) [23:43] mod_rewrite ftw! [23:44] rworkman: "tinyurl" link for the noobfarm quote [23:44] ah [23:44] rworkman: why mod_rewrite when you can fix the code to do what it should do proper [23:44] I don't like relying on mod_rewrite for everything... [23:45] fl0w, do you know /usr/doc/ directory or google ? [23:45] or manpages [23:45] Dominian: true [23:45] what is that helpful program called for compiz-fusion... fusion icon? [23:45] rworkman: anyway, that index.php was a "hardcode" I put in the code to try to "fix" an issue for another "client".. it just looks bad hehe [23:46] and its only in the "index.php" that it does that.. viewquote.php links aren't that way for some reason [23:46] ferdna: Don't take this personally, but not sure who you are.. so please don't PM me without my permission.. thank you. [23:46] sorry [23:46] hell, I still ask rworkman permission and I've known him for years [23:47] can i pm you? [23:47] ferdna: yes :P [23:47] Damn. [23:47] lol [23:47] I so hoped to see a 'no' there. [23:47] rworkman: lol [23:47] haha [23:47] heh [23:47] rworkman: I like to ruin the fun every now and then. [23:47] You're good at that. [23:47] hehe [23:47] ;-) [23:48] dang were rolling out cheap servers [23:48] 49.99 a month [23:48] usus12jari (n=sardinem@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [23:49] juice: free is cheap [23:49] heh [23:51] alice_ (i=alice@89.194.128.243) joined ##slackware. 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