[00:00] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "to part ways is a trivial thing, to leave it a bit harder" [00:00] just putting command in .bashrc doesn't work really when you login. ;) [00:00] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-222-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [00:01] antler: how are you loading that cx18? [00:05] BP{k}, ? [00:05] chopp: i tried blacklisting it and putting in rc.local ; i tried blacklisting and manually running modprobe cx18 ; i tried letting it autoload [00:05] .bah_profile then [00:05] bah [00:05] beatzz (n=beatzz@97-115-173-159.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:05] running into trouble on the install [00:05] should be a shell called bah [00:06] i installed completly [00:06] but lilo isent working [00:06] :/ [00:06] im reinstalling atm [00:06] antler: try modprobe tveeprom debug=1; modprobe cx18 [00:06] chopp: yeah, i tried that too (from one of your posts) [00:07] antler: ok crap, sorry I'm no help. [00:09] antler: you don't get any usefull info in syslog/messages? [00:11] dive: if you login directly (ie: on the console), bash runs the session as a login-shell; and thus never looks at .bashrc [00:12] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:12] doesn't it read 'bash_profile though? [00:13] if it excists [00:13] ? [00:13] my .bash_profile consists of 1 line: [[ -f ~/.bashrc ]] && . ~/.bashrc [00:13] BP{k}: can you offer me some assistance [00:13] ? [00:13] so mine always get read [00:13] dive: true and that is the way forward. :) but you have to know that ;) [00:14] dive: also, -r is better than -f. [00:14] beatzz_ (n=beatzz@97-115-173-159.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] beatzz: for? [00:14] sory [00:14] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [00:14] beatzz: it really helps if you state the problem fully and completly. [00:14] LILO is conflicting with grub, my previous boot loader [00:14] BP{k}, true [00:15] I had Kubuntu on my laptop [00:15] an Acer Aspire 5570Z [00:15] hba (n=hba@189.188.152.6) joined ##slackware. [00:15] and i installed slackware [00:15] slackware 12.2 [00:15] and it gave me some error durring the LILO configuration [00:15] chopp: sorry got disconnected. no, i really appreciate the effort. i'm thinking it must be something i'm overlooking. will try again once the codeine wears off--been sick. heh like my memory, the ram on my machine is going (i think) :( [00:15] beatzz: "some" error? [00:16] Im reinstalling it as we speak [00:16] to get those errors [00:16] I dident write them dowm [00:16] but now i can just type them here on this other pc [00:16] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:17] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@c-68-52-184-217.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:17] antler: check out craigslist for some ram. [00:17] beatzz_ (n=beatzz@97-115-173-159.spkn.qwest.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [00:17] jkwood: aye [00:17] workin' on it [00:18] chopp: not crazy about buying used computer parts and electronics in general [00:18] BP{k}: I will post the errors when they come up again [00:18] although ubunturd also redirects to ubuntard, i wasn't sure the turd should figure so prominently in the "loggo" ;) [00:18] beatzz: if its more than 3 lines, use a pastebin please. [00:20] beatzz: and FFS, do not pm me. [00:20] BP{k}: sory, dident know thats uncool [00:21] The favicon works. [00:21] ay [00:21] aye [00:21] beatzz: basically you haven't paid me or delivered an $veryexpinsivesinglemaltwhisky to my house to earn private support. [00:21] beatzz: plus there may be others here who are more knowledgable than I am and able to better help you. [00:23] fer shure. [00:24] and I think I get the pastebins [00:24] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.28.10) left irc: "Leaving" [00:24] I just give you the link to the pastebin site I put the stuff on? [00:24] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [00:24] okay im at the install LILO menu [00:24] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [00:25] Simple, Expert, or Skip [00:26] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:27] Should I have to installed to the Root or Master boot record? [00:27] on the last attemp, i chose the MBR, and it dident work : [00:27] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:27] beatzz: MBR is usually the best [00:28] http://pastebin.ca/1368770 error compiling kitchensync...can anybody point me toward a solution to the problem? [00:28] root you may need other boot selector [00:28] mmk, i'll go w/ MBR again [00:28] why didnt work last time? [00:28] what error did it gave? [00:28] jkwood: thanks for the tuxmachines sub [00:28] hmm.. [00:29] bash-3.1$ ls -alR | grep just lists -- I want to find the absolute path of that - how can I do that? [00:29] Ficthe: with find [00:29] find . -iname "*string*" [00:29] well this time around it gave me no errors [00:29] well that's still relative [00:29] No problem. [00:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:29] but relative from your current pwd [00:30] find /absolute/path/where/to/search -name "*blabla*" [00:30] I'll keep an eye on the site, and push more stories as I think it's appropriate. [00:31] Big stuff. [00:31] mshade, yep, that worked exactly as I wanted, thanks very much :) [00:31] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.28.10) joined ##slackware. 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[00:53] beatzz (n=beatzz@97-115-173-159.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [00:54] chopp: the 9600gt [00:55] hm.. removed 2 ram chips and things are smooth, no lockups [00:55] That would do it. [00:56] antler: did you see this: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/users/39517 [00:56] redtricycle, 1) if it fails with "no rule to make target..." always try compiling -j1, often targets are created by the complication process and -j1 will fix that, 2) that particular error looks like an outdated .la file, grep the .la files in /usr/{local/,}lib/ for the file that is missing, and just edit/delete the .la file if its wrong [01:00] chopp: reading it right now. what card's in your box? [01:01] antler: 8600GT [01:03] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.28.10) left irc: "Leaving" [01:08] hba (n=hba@189.188.152.6) left irc: "leaving" [01:09] P4C0 (n=susana@190.141.75.90) left irc: "leaving" [01:15] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-119-229.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [01:18] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:19] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:20] H4ck3r (n=chatzill@pool-173-57-156-2.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]" [01:25] Who was it that asked about the status of angband at SBo recently? [01:28] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [01:34] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [01:37] chopp: ah, i guess you had to rename previous releases of the firmware. don't have to do that anymore [01:39] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:39] antler: ahh ok. I knew there was a reason I had done it. ;) [01:44] 18 [01:44] oops [01:45] damn irssi won't change my mythtv channel. :O [01:48] chopp: you dont' have a remote? [01:48] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:50] antler: I do but this is not a media box so I have not hooked up the remote. [01:51] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [01:52] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [01:53] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.97.23) left irc: "leaving" [01:54] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@207.216.31.222) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [01:54] taquito (i=1000@75.22.56.2) joined ##slackware. [01:55] This is odd... I'm on slackware 12.2 and I just installed pyqt3 from SBo, and now when I run qtconfig it can't see the plastique (spelling?) theme. [01:57] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) left irc: "::" [02:00] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-168-230.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:00] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:07] http://g.imagehost.org/dl/5a4868fa80e1e645e99f66f39b3e04d1/0237/fonts.png <-- what do you guys think of the fonts? [02:07] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A77261.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [02:07] Tried getting it as close as possible as I could to my windows (yep, I like windows fonts :() [02:07] damn [02:08] missed my bus [02:08] :( [02:08] well, at least you can tell me your thoughts on my fonts: http://g.imagehost.org/dl/5a4868fa80e1e645e99f66f39b3e04d1/0237/fonts.png [02:12] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [02:12] rworkman: me [02:12] i hate mondays [02:12] Ficthe, Error: exceeded maximum number of unique IP addresses for this download ticket. [02:13] edman007, http://g.imagehost.org/dl/53cd516797c61294c908040261fc63ca/0035/fonts.png [02:13] that's weird that it would give that error.. I uploaded the image not even 10 minutes ago. [02:13] Ficthe: same error message [02:13] rworkman: i got your email. changes are fine with me. was my first attempt at a sb, so i was prepared to see changes made [02:14] works for me [02:14] antler, http://g.imagehost.org/view/0806/fonts yet another copy [02:14] I guess I stole all them IP's [02:14] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:14] but with nethack on sbo, we definitely needed angband represented :P [02:15] I is in your basement, stealing your ips [02:15] Ficthe, looks like text to me... [02:15] Ficthe, remove the kde and qt and you got something usable right there! [02:16] :) I was trying to get fonts that wouldn't give me headaches, so I pretty much just replicated my windows machine (bytecode intrepreter enabled, no antialiasing), and I'm pretty happy with it. [02:16] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:16] Ficthe: i think there's a bug in kde 3.5.10's control center / fonts / sub-pixel hinting. to get antialias fonts, you need to edit .fonts.confing. did you do that? [02:17] antler, in the image I linked, there's absolutely no AA [02:17] Ficthe: oh that's why, then. i prefer the smoother-looking fonts :P [02:18] antler, me too -- except when I've to render exotic scripts. e.g.,: http://g.imagehost.org/dl/ed4e163679b55b580bc1013ee558ad0d/0704/noaa.png [02:19] Arabic scripts are practically unreadable, as you can see in that image (even if you can't understand Arabic-based scripts, I think you can still get a sense of how irritating that looks) [02:20] dionysian: okay, cool. Please make sure it actually works as expected for you. I played around a bit with it, but you're more familiar [02:20] antler, er, I meant that the only time I can stand AA is when exotic scripts look horrible without it. anyway. :) [02:21] Ficthe: that looks like full aa. is it? [02:21] dionysian: I'm not sure if there are perhaps other directories in /usr/share/games/angband that might need to be moved to /var/games/angband, but I guess time will tell. [02:21] antler, no AA at all. bytecode intrepreter enabled, though [02:21] rworkman: i'm not on a slackware system at the moment. i've been trying out arch [02:22] In case it's not obvious why I moved only those, it's because /usr should be able to be mounted readonly. I chose /usr/share/... as the libdir because all the data appears to be non-arch-specific and non-binary, so /usr/share/ seemed more appropriate [02:23] dionysian: no hurry; whenever you get around to it, just let me know and I'll push it to READY pending any needed changes [02:23] ok. will do [02:23] thanks [02:23] i believe that binary data files are generated, though [02:23] Ficthe: i really like aa on the slight setting [02:23] i have to take another look at it, things might have changed since it's under active development [02:24] or the 'sub-pixel' rendering option, rather, in kde [02:24] antler, for contrast though, here is BP{k}'s ss of that page, with (what I think is) slight aa: http://g.imagehost.org/view/0496/urdu [02:24] but they're only generated once, afaik [02:24] my #windows quote is on noobfarm \o/ [02:25] unless the human readable files are changed [02:25] dionysian: as long as it's *data* files, flat text versus binary isn't an issue really, although I suppose that's a valid point [02:25] Ficthe: to me, that's niice. [02:26] antler, yep, and BP{k} is the only person I've met who seems to have every scripts under god's green earth rendering beautifully (as it should be) - especially Arabic-based scripts (try comparing them to mine and you'll what I mean). [02:26] script* +see* [02:28] Ficthe: i'm going to have to ask him what he did to achieve that. i had fonts looking beautifully in 12.1, but haven't been able to achieve quite the same in 12.2 [02:28] antler, you're not gonna be happy with his answer :( [02:28] he ported his fronts from vista over ;\ [02:29] fonts* and the post on lqforums titled something like "Beautiful Fonts in 12.2" is very helpful [02:29] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A77261.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:29] Ficthe: i've read 'something similar for 12.1' . there's one for 12.2 ? if so, terrific [02:32] antler, I believe so. yes. one last suggestion, Terminus is without doubt the best programming font, here's my ss for my case: http://g.imagehost.org/dl/75c072386b358d79551b76264618ab32/0109/terminuss.png [02:33] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-58-107.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "= leaving" [02:34] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-58-107.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [02:37] antler, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=3324601#post3324601 allegedly yields good results for 12.2 [02:41] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:41] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:45] Ficthe: I am just speshul ;) [02:45] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:47] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:48] kantor (n=bird@79.114.86.240) joined ##slackware. [02:48] hi [02:48] I added local: to X0.hosts but as I see it has no effect, is there other xhost config file ? [02:57] kantor (n=bird@79.114.86.240) left irc: "Leaving" [02:59] dhabyx_ (n=dhabyx@67.230.28.130) joined ##slackware. [02:59] sirukin (n=bryan@pdpc/supporter/active/sirukin) joined ##slackware. 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[03:12] the biggest one is 72gb, and few smaller ones around 20gb each [03:13] but really its the piece size that matters. and these do have big pieces [03:14] nooper, i'm thinking that bittorent may be trying to mmap() more than 4GB total into the app...pushing everything out of ram or something like that [03:14] wow [03:14] big file [03:15] with such a tiny bit of ram, and operating on such large files, i would kinda expect some crazy problems [03:15] rtorrent's vsz is only .3gb [03:15] wow. what's 72gigs? [03:15] collection of action movies by a ahhnold or what? [03:16] movies of a .. ahem, different kind [03:16] haha [03:16] I knew it! [03:16] lol [03:16] i don't think i even have that much.. [03:16] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-168-134-220.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:17] I have none. [03:17] these siterips get out of hand so quickly [03:20] nooper, ohh...google says it might be your NIC [03:20] what NIC do you have [03:21] 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11) [03:21] giuppy (n=giuppy@host187-164-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:22] nooper, do you have the full backtrace from dmesg? [03:22] http://pastebin.com/dfddac5f [03:23] [] tulip_interrupt+0x62/0xda0 [tulip] [03:23] yea, its your NIC [03:23] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:23] google says NICs like to alloc atomic mem or something and that causes it [03:23] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.115.148.153) left irc: "lalaland" [03:23] nooper, you can try upgrading your kernel [03:24] ah, wonder if its dropping packets if it cant alloc [03:24] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat074.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [03:25] getting console access to this box is messy. i'm scared to do a kernel upgrade remotely [03:25] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:27] nooper, wimp [03:27] i was trying to do a full install of centos remotely [03:27] and anaconda gave up, not me [03:28] refused to install to a degraded array, dumb installers [03:28] its that type of thing that makes me use slack [03:28] i have installed slack multiple times my just mounting the drive and putting the stuff in there and booting it [03:30] someday, i hope to be a MAN too [03:31] lol [03:32] actually, funny thing is it didn't refuse because it was degraded, it refused to install to a block device because it was a 3 drive raid 10, and there is no such thing as a 3 drive raid10 and thus it can't install to it :( [03:33] Action: edman007 tries to kill red hat [03:33] anyone here work for red hat? i need to kill you [03:33] Action: firebird619 thanks goodness he doesn't work for red hat. :) [03:34] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:42] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:43] Nick change: Mess[i]ah -> Emess [03:43] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:43] dhabyx_ (n=dhabyx@67.230.28.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:43] firebird619, dont tell me you still be messing about with scanners [03:43] slackytude: Heh, no they are working great now. [03:43] firebird619, 343am [03:43] not 2 [03:43] nix_chix, go to bed [03:44] slackytude: I have been playing around with Opera 10 Preview. I found that it has an option to specify what directory you want it to use, so I can have both 9 and 10 without them using each others files. [03:44] firebird619, oi! opera10 in beta? O_o [03:45] edman007: Well, it's Mon Mar 23 02:44:17 CDT 2009 here. :) [03:45] Mon Mar 23 03:45:13 EDT 2009 [03:45] your timezone is set wrong [03:46] slackytude: It is in a Preview state now, from what one of their web sites said. [03:46] preview? well, that sounds better than alpha [03:46] gonna give it a try [03:46] <3 opera [03:46] I use it since back when they still showed adverts [03:46] edman007: It's not wrong for where I am. I'm in Minnesota, where there's thunderstorms around for the next few days, and then a chance of snow. :) [03:46] that was so dumb [03:47] advertisements in a web browser [03:47] reminded me of netzero on Windows [03:47] firebird619, move.... [03:47] aye, still a good browser [03:47] grazymax (n=grazymax@host41-4-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:47] anyways, its kinda cool over here [03:47] room temp is like 60'F [03:47] slackytude: Yes, me too. I love opera. If you try opera 10, use opera -pd (path to directory you want it to use). [03:48] that way, it won't mess with opera 9. [03:48] firebird619, you used a slackbuild? [03:49] firebird619: Actually, for 10 I just downloaded the tar.gz file and am running it from its directory in /home [03:49] nice tab expansion fail [03:49] go to bed ^-^ [03:50] haha [03:50] edman007: It's 54 here, just rainy and really windy. [03:50] slackytude: Yeah, you know it's time for bed when you start talking to yourself. :D [03:50] yep [03:51] svip (n=svip@unaffiliated/svip) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:51] firebird619, http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=06785&MR=1 [03:51] 60'F is the indoor temp :P [03:51] slackytude: Opera 10 is REALLY fast, noticeably faster than 9. [03:51] Ive only heard nice things about it so far [03:52] slackytude, nothing wrong with talking to yourself [03:52] edman007: 25 F. Yikes. It's suppose to be in the 30s here later this week. [03:52] i do it all the time [03:52] Unless you start talking back. [03:52] schizo [03:52] godling: Yeah, answering yourself is the real problem. [03:53] slackytude: Have you heard about the Opera Turbo feature they are adding. It's for low bandwidth users to compress images, etc. so it loads faster. [03:53] nah, haven't heard about that one [03:53] slackytude: Yeah, it's in this latest Preview build. I haven't tried it though because I'm on 8 MB cable, but it's suppose to be nice for wireless users, dial-up users, etc. [03:55] slackytude: http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/03/13/ [03:55] nix_chix (n=misspwn@67-54-164-2.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:55] firebird619, just downloading [03:56] othermindszine (n=othermin@12.sub-70-193-126.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [03:57] Well, it's time to get going. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. [03:57] good night firebird619 [03:57] slackytude: Enjoy Opera 10. It's really nice. [03:57] will do ^-^ [03:57] bye [03:58] othermindszine (n=othermin@12.sub-70-193-126.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:58] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-58-107.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:58] othermindszine (n=othermin@12.sub-70-193-126.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [04:00] Stepp2 (n=stepp2@cable-94-189-227-46.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [04:05] well, opera10 does most of the stuff at chromeexperiemtns ^-^ [04:05] bit slow, tho [04:05] still better than opera 9.64 [04:06] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [04:09] reallove (n=dan@unaffiliated/reallove) joined ##slackware. [04:10] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430193.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:10] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430193.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:11] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430193.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:12] Kerio2004 (n=Port@212.118.140.231) joined ##slackware. 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[04:32] Camarade_Tux, ^-^ [04:32] I overslept too [04:33] =) [04:34] but on the other hand, I went to bed at 2am ;p [04:34] Camarade_Tux: that's nothing [04:34] Camarade_Tux: I went to bed at 7AM yesterday morning. [04:35] but I keep doing that, plus I don't sleep very late (last week-end, I woke up at 7am by myself) [04:35] so I can't rest [04:35] Action: Camarade_Tux --> shower [04:37] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [04:42] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [04:47] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:51] pupit1 (n=p@93.86.1.195) joined ##slackware. [04:51] pupit1 (n=p@93.86.1.195) left irc: Client Quit [05:03] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.57) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:04] Hermaniette (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. 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[05:17] juice_ (i=juice@67.48.19.13) joined ##slackware. [05:18] hi all [05:23] does anyone have any slackbuild script using cmake (or knows about one using it), in order to have a look at it and make another one for yakuake [05:24] kr_eten, yes I have one for yakuake [05:24] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/slackbuilds [05:24] in current [05:25] kr_eten, :-) [05:25] sigh [05:25] heh [05:25] dive, were not your nick dave? :) [05:25] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [05:25] nope [05:26] although my real nick is dave ;P [05:28] did you found something wrong with xchat or you have no problems with it? [05:28] no it seemed ok - maybe it's a gtk theme or something? [05:29] try renaming .gtkrc and .gtkrc-2.0 [05:29] if you have them [05:30] renaming to what? :) [05:30] .gtkrc.old for exampls - so that xchat starts up with default theme [05:31] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:31] I'm not sure if it uses gtk 1 or 2 so rename them both to test [05:31] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [05:33] i will try, but i never changed the theme :) [05:34] yht|kerjo (i=1000@114.121.68.227) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:34] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:35] if that makes no difference then I don't know - is it the standard xchat included with current, or did you compile it yourself? [05:38] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [05:39] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:40] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat074.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:40] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:41] it is standart [05:41] sorry for the delay :) [05:41] np [05:42] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [05:45] hi there :) [05:45] i have no file .gtkrc in home [05:45] i could try reinstall xchat, but can not imagine what could i achieve with this :) [05:45] nor do I to be honest [05:45] well, in fact i know what - noting :) [05:46] kr_eten, it's not something that come's stock with /etc/skel . just create one with 'touch ~/.gtkrc-2.0' and edit to your liking. SBo has an app gtk-chtheme iirc that'll help tweakify. [05:46] s/xchat/irssi/ [05:46] which video card/driver are you using? [05:46] rizitis (n=rizitis@athedsl-4565712.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:47] mikk0 (n=mikk01@KMMMCDLXX.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: [05:47] unfortunately nvidia [05:48] unfortunately? [05:48] does it do it with nv driver? [05:49] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-164-2.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [05:49] unfortunately because it taints my kernel :) [05:49] and no, i have not tried [05:49] ah [05:49] huh huh. you said taint [05:50] i will, maybe later [05:50] after that I would sugest look [05:50] it is not such a problem as a matter of fact, it is just very annoying [05:51] ing at cairo version [05:51] ls /var/log/cairo* [05:52] /var/log or /var/log/packages ? [05:53] we've got a single customer calling this morning [05:53] er you got me - yeah /var/log/packages/cairo* ;) [05:53] /var/log/packages/cairo-1.8.6-i486-2 [05:53] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@114.76.224.143) joined ##slackware. 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[05:56] well i will, in the name of truth :) [05:57] but later [05:57] thanks for your hel [05:57] help [05:57] if that doesn't work then perhaps rworkman or alienBOB would know more [05:57] and the script too [05:57] thats np [05:58] Kerio2004 (n=Port@212.118.140.231) left irc: [06:00] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: "Leaving" [06:01] erisco (n=kambee@ip72-209-59-92.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:03] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-164-2.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:12] aperturefever (n=abell@85.74.116.210) joined ##slackware. [06:12] mrS (n=Sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:13] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:14] slack_china (n=slack_ch@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [06:18] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: [06:23] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. 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[06:45] kr_eten, export and import [06:46] well i wander if mysql exported file is compatible with sqlite :) [06:47] kr_eten, experiment is your best friend :) [06:47] ok thanks [06:47] slack_china (n=slack_ch@59.72.110.45) left irc: "‚»" [06:48] most db's can import/export from/to CSV [06:56] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) got netsplit. [06:56] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) got netsplit. [06:56] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-1-31.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) got netsplit. [06:56] Shingoshi (n=Shingosh@c-98-246-122-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net) got netsplit. [06:56] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) got netsplit. [06:56] C00re (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) got netsplit. [06:56] Deiz (n=swh@unaffiliated/deiz) got netsplit. [06:56] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) got netsplit. [06:56] MakubeX (n=admin@ia.puu.la) got netsplit. [06:56] martian67 (i=user5490@about/linux/regular/martian67) got netsplit. 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[06:58] its full of stars [06:59] godling, nothing. [06:59] It's what server you're on. [06:59] t_ (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. [07:02] t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) got lost in the net-split. [07:02] TheBig (n=TheBig@host35-191-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:03] Nick change: t_ -> t [07:03] ccfreak2k: Freaking useless bit of information, then. [07:04] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE5B0C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:06] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "leaving" [07:06] Pa3cK (n=patrick@200.138.198.114) joined ##slackware. [07:07] Pa3cK (n=patrick@200.138.198.114) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [07:10] she_dyed_and (n=Elive_us@adsl-144-83-4.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [07:11] i was told there was a tool to help one find mirrors. Close ones or fast ones. anyone know? 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[07:20] or something like that :) [07:20] cuba if i not rong check this http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/libraries/mysql++/ [07:20] I've been there for two years. [07:22] tntslack, thank you, thats it [07:23] Hermaniette (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:23] Hermaniette (i=1000@129.16.11.72) joined ##slackware. [07:24] aperturefever (n=abell@85.74.116.210) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [07:24] Nick change: aperturefever` -> aperturefever [07:24] you welcome [07:24] cuba, not quite [07:24] cuba, slackware doesnt split packages into user and dev packages [07:24] cuba, like some others [07:25] aha, so the "lib-dev" is a result of packaging style of other distros, debian, suse etc. [07:26] aye [07:29] TheBig (n=TheBig@host35-191-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:29] The_Big (n=TheBig@host35-191-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[08:18] filipe_xD (n=filipe@laptop-do-filipe.inrede.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:18] well, one of those [08:18] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:20] filipe_xD (n=filipe@laptop-do-filipe.inrede.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:25] slackytude, maybe is you stop colliding nicks it would stop [08:25] edman007, maybe [08:25] edman007, how late is it for you now? [08:26] 8:25 am... [08:26] but i woke up at 1030pm...so not really late [08:30] Dr4kk4r (n=Dr4kk4r@83.103.39.119) left irc: "Leaving" [08:35] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "Saindo" [08:37] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [08:38] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [08:38] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Client Quit [08:40] Colonel Panic. [08:40] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. 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[08:49] how do I turn off KDE's black screen [08:49] it triggers within 30 mins or so [08:49] npad, which kde? [08:50] uhmm 3.5 [08:50] npad, KDE Control Center -> monitor settings or power settings [08:50] Here's the catch: there's another setting (outside of KDE) that controls DPMS off timeout. [08:51] ccfreak2k, yeah, but that's triggered in 10 mins. it's in startup scripts somewhere. [08:51] the kde setting is supposed to overwrite the system setting. [08:51] ahhh [08:52] Im still looking [08:52] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [08:54] i think i found it [08:55] Does Pat only update a SlackBuild if the software in question was also updated? [08:55] control center > peripherials > Display > check on 'Enable display power management' [08:55] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:56] greetings [08:56] how do i pass an option to a module loaded at boot? [08:56] /etc/modprobe.d/ [08:56] noodles (n=noodles@190.43.205.160) joined ##slackware. [08:57] john_dee: echo "$module options $option" > /etc/modprobe.d/$module [08:57] create a file named as the module and place "options param" in? [08:57] yep [08:57] oh, good. tnx [08:57] ccfreak2k: correct [08:57] filename really doesn't matter, but I've found that to be the best way to keep track [08:58] noodles (n=noodles@190.43.205.160) left irc: "BitchX: ribbed for her pleasure!" [08:59] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:03] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430193.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:03] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430193.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:03] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430193.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:03] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [09:04] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430193.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:07] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@cpe-74-72-194-84.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving." [09:10] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:13] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [09:13] svip (n=svip@unaffiliated/svip) joined ##slackware. [09:14] svip (n=svip@unaffiliated/svip) left irc: Client Quit [09:14] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: Client Quit [09:14] svip (n=svip@unaffiliated/svip) joined ##slackware. [09:14] anybody knows a livecd that can act as a 2003 domain member? [09:16] slackytude: any live cd with samba. [09:16] I m not sure how many livecds have samba 4 or is it 3 have installed [09:16] agentc0re, I had some trouble getting slackware samba to auth against 2k3 domains. just samba isnt enough [09:16] the latest samba is better at AD membership among other AD stuff then the old versions [09:16] kitche, which latest? [09:17] kitche, you mean the 4.x branch? [09:18] samba 3.x.x I thought had AD support but maybe it's 4 that has better support I do not really pay attention to close to AD things [09:18] slack_china (n=slack_ch@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [09:18] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:18] kitche, well, yeah samba 3 has some AD support, 4 is supposed to give full AD to linux but its still alpha [09:19] hello slacktude .i am coming [09:19] wish UPS delivers my books before I go to work will give me something to read [09:20] slackytude: Why do you need to join it to the domain anyways? [09:21] I need it to serve stuff to a domain. the current machine is xp and it's dropping the connection after 3 days or so. Im trying to figure out if its OS or hardware thats at fault [09:21] greetings slack_china [09:22] Well are you sure it really needs to be part of the domain to do whatever you need it to do? Thats why I am asking. [09:22] agentc0re, yes, pretty much [09:22] 3 has AD integration support. 4 has AD *replacement* support [09:22] Zordrak, right [09:23] but it's not gonna even go beha for bloody years [09:23] it's been alpha for two yearsn already [09:23] and your point Google has gmail in beta since it started( yes I know google calls beta different then most) [09:25] kitche: my point being you cannot install alpha software in an enterprise [09:25] not if you value your salary [09:25] that's why most do not have a production system [09:26] Zordrak: Or if anyone knows any better but you :P [09:26] but if the machine is dropping the conenction tot he AD it sounds like it's just the feature of Windows [09:27] kitche, huh? [09:27] Some Windows if not set up correctly will drop the connectionat least the file sharing connection [09:27] bottom line is i cannot replace our AD system with samba4 until it's stable [09:27] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:27] Zordrak: Oh sure you can, come on and do it. Let me know how it goes :P [09:28] agentc0re: you first [09:28] even then theres stuff that samba will probally never do [09:28] Shit, i should. I bet it's better than my 2000 domain. :P [09:28] spook: yeah.. but thankfully i have no need for that crap :) [09:28] i mean, samba can never imitate AD perfectly. [09:29] off the top of my head, samba wont crash all the time. [09:29] all i need is basic LDAP/Kerb/GPO nothing more [09:29] kerb isnt basic lol [09:29] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.145.117) joined ##slackware. [09:29] read "the basic functions of" [09:31] kitche, huh? I dont get you. this machine works ok for some time and then it drops network [09:34] if it's dropping network it could be many things besides hardware or the OS [09:36] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.15) joined ##slackware. [09:38] AzalynX (n=midgar@69.70.117.114) joined ##slackware. [09:38] kitche, yeah, thats true. [09:39] I had a virus one time that did it to me [09:39] eh? funny [09:41] <_RadioHead> hi all [09:41] hello radiohead [09:42] <_RadioHead> yo slack_china [09:43] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "Changing server" [09:44] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:45] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [09:47] TheBig (n=TheBig@151.16.178.27) joined ##slackware. [09:49] arfon (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [09:49] dios_mio (n=test@88.243.101.18) joined ##slackware. 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[10:01] Or rworkman even [10:09] alienbob my brotha' too [10:10] aloha edman007 brotha [10:14] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [10:16] Action: slava_dp just finished a nice middle-sized script that does stress-testing for full screen programs. (clicks around randomly and outputs process info to a text file) :-) [10:17] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) joined ##slackware. [10:17] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:17] slava_dp, fun ^-^ [10:19] slackytude, yeah it would be so much more fun if you had the opportunity to see it in action on a full-screen flash program. (that's what we do here, flash). When it has an on-screen keyboard and keys start typing frantically 10 times per second :-) [10:20] riemann (n=riemann@41.221.27.174) left irc: "Leaving" [10:21] eh, flash? actionscript? [10:22] slackytude, yep. i'm not a flasher but my workmate is and i do integration of what he writes. (i. e. embedded systems). [10:23] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.244.236) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:23] slava_dp, sounds fun [10:23] Action: slava_dp is a not a flasher but a basher now lol [10:23] hehe [10:23] what kind of devices? [10:24] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:24] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [10:25] stew (i=1413@freenode/staff/stew) joined ##slackware. [10:25] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.244.236) joined ##slackware. [10:25] slackytude, flat wall-mountable panels with touch screens (which i also configure). [10:28] Refused telnet@cardinal.lizella.net (invalid handle: rwokrman) [10:28] good morning slackers [10:29] Ola mesa brotha [10:29] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@catv-80-98-178-84.catv.broadband.hu' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:29] OvezirTheBest kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Did your mother have any children that lived? [10:29] nice ban message [10:29] slava_dp, oi! sounds like a fun job [10:29] hehe [10:30] slackytude: That's the classic one, IIRC. [10:30] heh [10:32] haha [10:33] slack_china (n=slack_ch@59.72.110.45) left irc: "‚»" [10:33] Action: edman007 wonders who was responsible for that ban [10:33] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) joined ##slackware. [10:33] slackboy became sentinent [10:33] thats what happens if you use python [10:34] haha [10:34] ell the ban was there just not for that hostname either that or slackboy got lazy :) [10:36] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.29) left irc: [10:37] does anyone have any idea where libavahi-glib is going to be at? [10:37] google is not helping with this one [10:37] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE6379.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:39] #avahi does not know either lol [10:39] on other distros there is a libavahi-glib-dev i guess. [10:39] but only in rpm [10:41] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:42] what actual lib files are in the rpms for other distros? [10:43] dartmouth: umm avahi.org [10:43] it's part of avahi I just love how distros confuse users sometimes [10:44] Action: dartmouth is wondering about the intelligence of avant-window-navigator requiring the avahi package [10:45] Action: NaCl agrees [10:45] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn172.78-99-1.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [10:45] mrS (n=Sven@cc1312074-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:46] heviarti (n=mrbig@63.214.229.50) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Action: acidchild wonders about the intelligence of linux [10:46] i told me 2+2=4 so i think its pretty leet. [10:46] hiptobecubic (n=john@129.171.233.74) joined ##slackware. [10:46] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [10:48] moc-qt3? that's mono bindings, right? [10:48] dartmouth: nope it's part of qt3 [10:49] weird because i have qt3 and do not have moc-qt3 [10:49] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) joined ##slackware. [10:50] dartmouth: if you only have qt 3 installed, then it's just moc [10:50] i have qt4 installed as well [10:51] Then there should be a moc-qt4 [10:52] http://pastebin.com/m2710b693 [10:53] Are you running kde 4? [10:53] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE5B0C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:54] Slack's qt3-compat packages don't allow for compiling qt3 apps, IIRC. [10:55] sorry that was the wrong pastebin: http://pastebin.com/mcfcba72 ; and yes i am in -current and am running kde4 [10:55] t3h_hevz (n=mrbig@63.214.229.48) joined ##slackware. [10:55] oh, ok that makes sense. [10:55] NaCl: while slackbuild.org's qt4 packages suffix -qt4 to the binaries in $PATH, the ones in -current don't. [10:56] so i need to uninstall the qt3-compat packages and build from source huh? [10:56] fred: I see. Thanks for the info. [10:57] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:57] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) joined ##slackware. [10:58] cuba (n=cubicka@84.19.44.65) joined ##slackware. [10:59] so.. anybody know why 2.6 would refuse to find /dev/console unless you compile with no network support? [11:00] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn172.78-99-1.t-com.sk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:00] qneo (n=knao@91.127.157.177) joined ##slackware. [11:02] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [11:02] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:02] t3h_hevz, are you sure thats all you disabled? last time i built a kernel without network support i managed to turn off sockets with it as well, nothing works without sockets (and i think udev won't start) [11:04] and why would anyone build a system without network support? what is the purpose of a computer that has no network capability? [11:04] haha. wow. [11:04] i just did cat /dev/console in an xfterm [11:04] bad idea [11:04] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:05] lol [11:05] edman007, paranoia makes you do strange things :) [11:06] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:06] lol [11:06] <_arfon_> Any of you familiar with pppoe? [11:06] when i built a kernel without network it was because i started without a .config and missed the whole network section (why is it not on by default?!?!) [11:08] skibur (n=skibur@67.65.197.68) joined ##slackware. [11:08] _arfon_ (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) left ##slackware. [11:08] edman007: dont listen to anything I ever say about the philosophy of the kernel, but maybe they want to leave it open ended for other types of systems, like portable devices et al, not just what most people are using it for [11:08] _arfon_ (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [11:09] edman007, i was disabling things to see if i could figure out where the issue was. and yes, sockets are enabled [11:09] <_arfon_> Hmm, got disconnected. Let me ask again. [11:09] <_arfon_> Anyone familiar with pppoe? [11:10] I've heard of it. never used it. so pppoe is alot like preparation H [11:10] <_arfon_> nice [11:10] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [11:10] t3h_hevz, well i bet you disabled something udev does not like, check its error messages/logs [11:10] _arfon_, nice?!?! [11:10] <_arfon_> Not quite like Prep H... pppoe makes my butt hurt... [11:11] edman007, no udev. this is a tennish slack. [11:11] anyways, i have not used pppoe in almost 10 years... [11:11] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:11] <_arfon_> nice was a response to t3h's comment [11:11] <_arfon_> Okay, I'll ask anyway... Anyone have a clue as to how to initiate a pppoe connection at stratup using inet? [11:12] t3h_hevz, well if you have no udev how do you expect /dev/console to be created? [11:12] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [11:12] nbuonanno (i=nbuonann@you.dontlike.us) left irc: "Relogging... brb!" [11:13] i don't remember ever having udev before, I remember having a monolithic /dev.plus it's not enabled on the other 10 box and it runs fine. [11:14] have you not run linux in 3 years? [11:14] it's *really* difficult to run static dev on any recent 2.6 kernel [11:15] heviarti (n=mrbig@63.214.229.50) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:15] I'm not aware of any distros that provide an install these days (read, the last 2-3 years) without udev [11:15] me_ (n=me_@89.242.126.181) joined ##slackware. [11:15] I haven't gotten a new slackware in easily that long. [11:15] Nick change: t3h_hevz -> heviarti [11:16] udev has been standardized across the board, basically [11:16] well, for distros using a 2.6 kernel (which has been main-stream for 2 to 3 years) [11:17] I have compiled 2.6 before, and did without... but that was a much earlier 2.6. [11:17] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Client Quit [11:18] vatgas (n=val@123.145.62.11) joined ##slackware. [11:18] yeah you could with earilier 2.6.x kernels bu they removed something from the kernel once udev became mainline to make it harder for static devs [11:18] I wouldn't even bother trying to "get around it." it's an excellent evolution, to be honest [11:19] kitche, i think the option is still in there for devfs, but its covered in warnings with a message saying you will die if you check it [11:19] needless to say, when they come up with something new like udev, I don't trust it. [11:20] never EVER ran devfs. i just stuck with a monolithic /dev/and the makedev script [11:20] Well, do yourself a favor and go with the flow. [11:20] <_RadioHead> hi rworkman :) [11:21] it's very automated now [11:21] unless you have a large grey unix beard, ignore it [11:21] rworkman, well, does it work worth a damn? or is it a pain like devfs ad usbfs were? [11:22] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE6379.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [11:22] heviarti: what turning on your computer is to hard for you? since thta's all you need to do with udev [11:23] _arfon_, yes i do use pppoe. what's the problem? [11:23] _RadioHead: ola [11:23] heviarti: yes. [11:23] yes=it works very well [11:24] From a distribution developer standpoint, there are occasionally issues, but from a user standpoint, it's pretty much painless. [11:24] kitche, too much blind acceptance that a program is doing the right thing is a bad idea. unfortunately i no longer have a dumbass friend who tries every new thing as it comes out. [11:25] your idea of "new" is kinda deceiving. as mentioned, it's the standard among almost all distros, and has been for years [11:25] heviarti: then good luck at having a broken system :) [11:25] w [11:25] heh w/w [11:25] Action: Dominian slaps acidchild [11:25] Action: acidchild gets slapped? [11:25] =] [11:25] thrice`, well considering as i have been netles for at least two years of that... [11:25] yeah.. I haven't been around in almost a week [11:25] needed tos lap someone [11:26] don't lap me plz ;/ [11:26] netless even [11:26] :P [11:26] where you been? [11:26] sick [11:26] :< [11:26] better now [11:26] ITS MONDAAYYY [11:26] yes it is [11:27] heviarti: so, the logical step is start where you left off 5 years ago? [11:27] viewing a condo at 2PM other than, i'll have my head stuck inside busybox and core-utils :> [11:27] <_arfon_> slava_dp you still there? [11:28] Dominian: BEEE ARRRR BEEE :> [11:29] booteco (n=booteco@201.47.12.173.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:29] thrice`, not really... I just was explaining that i normally wait for things to get usable, and that if i had had my dumbass friend around i'd have let him take the bullet and blow up his system. but udev must be reasonably reliable the way you're talking [11:30] heviarti: oh, sorry; i thought you were considering trying to work around udev. [11:30] word around udev? O_o [11:31] eddief2 (n=eddie@cpe-72-229-30-71.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:31] _arfon_, i am [11:31] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:31] <_arfon_> Okay Slava, Here's my problem... [11:32] <_arfon_> I have pppoe up and running fine manually... I'm trying to make a router and I want it to initiate a connect at startup, reconnect on a disconnect and use inet to do this and not a hopdgepogde script... [11:33] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [11:33] fred: what would you suggest about fixing this qt3-moc issue? [11:33] _arfon_, pppoe-start should do that [11:34] _arfon_, if you tell it so, during pppoe-setup [11:34] _arfon_, the only option i can think of is to add the option to reconnect to /etc/ppp/options or where it can be found by pppoe. [11:35] slackytude, no, pppoe-start does not reconnect on failure. [11:35] acidchild: viewing a condo eh? nice [11:35] qneo (n=knao@91.127.157.177) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:35] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [11:35] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn24.91-127-192.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [11:35] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.1) joined ##slackware. [11:35] slava_dp, eh? you sure about that? [11:36] slackytude, pretty much [11:36] I just use freebsd for a router so I have no clue how to use pppoe on linux really [11:36] edman007, actually I was on time ! :) [11:36] yay [11:37] but yes if it's setup correctly the ppoe daemon should auto reconnect [11:38] Action: slava_dp doubts that.... cause his box at home does not reconnect. should look into that [11:38] Action: edman007 disconnects slava_dp [11:38] slava_dp, afaik, pppd options has the "persist" keyword [11:38] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) joined ##slackware. [11:38] slava_dp, which should do a reconnect [11:38] slava_dp, hey look, its peer, and he is here to reset your connection [11:39] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left ##slackware ("disconnected by edman007"). [11:39] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [11:39] <_arfon_> Forgive my ignorance (I haven't used ppp in 10 years)... What does pppoe use pppd / pppd options for? [11:39] lol, pwnt :D [11:40] dios_mio (n=test@88.243.101.18) left irc: "leaving" [11:40] hey, If I want to bridge wifi and ethernet adapters together and let the bridge share the bandwidth between them through iptables...is that right idea ? [11:40] hah [11:41] or is this usually done by bonding ? [11:41] <_arfon_> cuba iproute 2 and you want weighted routing [11:41] cuba, its usually done by creating a bridge with brctl [11:41] iptables can do it too, but it may be a bit more work [11:41] http://www.howtoforge.com/nic-bonding-on-slackware-12.1 [11:41] bonding is very different [11:41] this seems ok as well [11:41] eddief2 (n=eddie@cpe-72-229-30-71.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [11:42] Dominian: http://dubstep.7a69.co.uk/~ash/condo/ [11:42] <_arfon_> bonding is done at each end [11:42] Dominian: its close enough to feed it with line of sight wireless [11:42] _arfon_, because ppp is used ? like PPP over ethernet [11:42] webmin minimal seems a little crap [11:42] had to get that out of my system [11:42] edman007, but I don't know if the maintainance of iptables will by acceptable [11:42] me_: webmin is crap [11:42] :> [11:43] cuba, like i said, brctl [11:43] this is my first taste of it [11:43] cuba: don't do that from a remote location. [11:43] i'm dling the less than minimal version as we speak [11:43] there is no way to keep an established connection to the box while bonding. [11:43] me_: nice open hole you will have [11:44] how so? [11:44] ok, I'll spend 3 or 4 hours with that and see how it will look like [11:44] me_: webmin is a giant security hole :) [11:44] kitche: lies. [11:44] go back to school. [11:45] School is for those who need their hand held. [11:45] no it's true unless you have it listening on a inside interface [11:45] dartmouth, and those who need some paper [11:45] edman007: no, i mean like an iphone. [11:45] well my router has port forwarding disabled so it's solely for my intranet use [11:46] plus what else would i use? ssh could allow someone to brute force me no? [11:46] noobish (i=noobish@12.170.31.226) left irc: [11:46] _arfon_, you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iproute2 ? [11:46] <_arfon_> Yes... [11:47] <_arfon_> I'm trying to do that now on my box... [11:47] kitche: its a application that has been though some serious security auditing. [11:47] kitche: its pretty darn secure, but crap all the same. [11:47] acidchild: nice [11:47] Dominian: yeah... its okey, we'll see :P [11:47] hehe [11:47] Dominian: its 1400$/month :| [11:48] doh [11:48] acidchild: then it must have changed since before it was a giant security hole [11:48] kitche: ofcourse. [11:48] downtow toronto? [11:48] _arfon_, I don't know but the virtual bridge seems the best option, I was just wandering how the bonding works, cause I'm not sure the purpose of it [11:48] Dominian: aye. look at the view baby [11:48] that's why its so high [11:48] its 7th floor. [11:48] 6* [11:48] the one i checked out the other day was 17th floor [11:48] so no, its not that high [11:48] considering that webmin gets updates almost every month still [11:49] Dominian: whats min wage where you at? [11:49] acidchild: no.. the rent [11:49] acidchild: ummm 7.50/hr iirc [11:49] oh for sure, but thats standard here. [11:49] Action: Dominian checks [11:49] ah its 9.75$/hr here [11:50] 7.25/hr [11:50] tavl (n=tavl@itautecnet.cin.ufpe.br) joined ##slackware. [11:50] starting in July [11:50] thats bollocks :| [11:50] Dominian: get my linkedin comment? :P [11:50] 7.25 $ / hour? [11:50] thats not much [11:50] <_arfon_> Cuba, bonding is when you basically tie two connections together to get more bandwidth... Like two parallel T1s. You have to 'bond' them at each end. [11:50] slackytude: indeed. :-/ [11:50] 7.25 is the federal minium wage in july [11:50] <_arfon_> What you want to do is weighted routing... [11:51] _arfon_: so, its how you load the module. [11:51] there is diffrent modes. [11:51] 'locate bonding.txt' in your kernel source folder. [11:51] bbl [11:51] Dominian: gtalk? [11:53] _arfon_, yes, but then forward them to virtual NIC, but the difference is, that most of it is handled by kernel and some modules, whereas when you bridge them, it just forwards the traffic to the bridge [11:53] is that right ? [11:54] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn24.91-127-192.t-com.sk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:54] qneo (n=knao@adsl-d50.84-47-13.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [11:54] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [11:55] omg, iproute2 is the "ip" :) [11:55] yht (i=1000@114.121.74.118) joined ##slackware. [11:55] acidchild: yeah I'm on there [11:59] gah, great [11:59] smb4k keeps crashing [11:59] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] alisonken1home1 (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:01] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:01] <_arfon_> I'm sorry Cuba, I'm confused... You want to use two internet connections and share your 'load' across them right? [12:01] <_arfon_> If that is what you want to do, you want weighted routing. [12:02] let say, I have wireless adapter + ethernet adapter, 2 slow i. connections (wifi, wire) and I want to use them both [12:03] <_arfon_> You want weighted routing [12:03] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-168-230.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:04] <_arfon_> Since you are doing this on an internal connection, you could bond them but, I think the weighted routing would be easier [12:04] so, it is nonsense to use bonding for it [12:04] <_arfon_> I wouldn't bond them [12:05] ok, and a virtual box will go through tap interface to the bridge and through one of the interfaces to the gateway [12:05] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "Leaving" [12:06] <_arfon_> I'm not sure what you're asking/saying here [12:07] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:07] that I have some virtual machines...and they would use the bridge either [12:08] well, there will by a brctl bridge in all cases .... I guess [12:08] <_arfon_> I'm not sure how your virtual machines get their traffic routed... If they use the routing of the base OS, this should be transparent to them. [12:09] <_arfon_> Forgive me but I need to go to lunch [12:09] Nick change: _arfon_ -> _arfon_at_lunch [12:09] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-a07f1e72b9a4a988) left irc: [12:09] np, thank you for helping me, have a good taste [12:09] time to go home! \o/ [12:10] wheeeeee! [12:10] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD88563.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "off from work I go" [12:10] sweet, it's 5pm somewhere. I think i should go home now too. [12:10] even though it's only 10am here :P [12:11] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [12:12] jiraia (n=jiraia@200-193-215-197.cpece700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:13] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.46.41) joined ##slackware. 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[12:29] wtf is netmask 128, 64 and 8 used for? [12:29] destination ::1, gateway ::, netmask 128, interface lo [12:30] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@catv-80-98-178-84.catv.broadband.hu expired. [12:30] i have 4 bizzarre entries in my routing table [12:30] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@catv-80-98-178-84.catv.broadband.hu' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:30] me_ [12:30] not rlly [12:30] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.49.18) joined ##slackware. [12:31] 64 is a 64bit adressing, means IP adres 0-63 basically use 255.255.255.64 as netmask [12:31] Mmm are 64-bit kernels bigger in general/ [12:31] not rlly [12:31] I've got two kernel configs, one for my still 32-bit desktop, one for my 64-bit server... but somehow the server one is much bigger (0.6M) [12:31] most 64bit binaries will be a big larger [12:31] While it doesn't need sound drivers etc. [12:32] s/big/bit [12:32] jiraia (n=jiraia@200-193-215-197.cpece700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [12:32] Mmm but not 0.6M right? :-) [12:33] t3h_hevz (n=mrbig@63.214.229.48) joined ##slackware. [12:33] heviarti (n=mrbig@63.214.229.48) left irc: Connection reset by peer [12:33] i have a couple normal entries using the standard 255.255.255.0 mask then 4 that stand out [12:35] beatzz (n=beatzz@97-114-80-78.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:36] take a look [12:36] tomyn.com/snapshot1.png [12:36] i have had very slow connection from this machine [12:36] maybe this is why? [12:37] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.37.25) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:37] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [12:37] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) left ##slackware. [12:38] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:38] I just installed Slackware 12.2 to my laptop, and created a user account for myself to use instead of root, but when I go to log in to it at the kdm login screen i get an error: cannot find kstartupconfig. then it sends me back to the login screen [12:39] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [12:39] Getting error: Access denied to /media/DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER. [12:39] How to fix? [12:40] add your user to the plugdev group [12:40] me? [12:40] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] Dominian, me or vfw? [12:41] vfw [12:41] :( [12:41] beatzz: login to kdm with root first.. see if it works then [12:41] beatzz: did you do a full install ? [12:41] Dominian, i am currently logged into kdm as root [12:41] thrice`, yes [12:41] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [12:42] su - [12:42] then run: xwmconfig [12:42] see if that fixes it [12:42] thrice`, i did exclude the Emacs packages, and the games packages [12:42] Dominian, k, i will try it [12:43] where can i paste the output?/ [12:43] Dominian, where I can paste the errors to you? [12:43] Dominian: :) [12:43] beatzz: pastebin.slackadelic.com [12:43] :> [12:44] vatgas (n=val@123.145.62.11) left irc: "Leaving." [12:45] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:45] Dominian, http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11251 [12:45] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [12:45] acidchild, is this correct? http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11251 [12:45] you can't do su $username and then do 'startx' [12:45] you need to A) login as that user and do xwmconfig [12:45] or b) do 'su - beatzz' [12:46] beatzz: try su - beatzz like acidchild said [12:46] i did do 'su beatzz' [12:46] su - beatzz [12:46] reaver__ (n=reaver@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:46] i have to inc. the - [12:46] the '-' [12:46] ok [12:46] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.60.79) joined ##slackware. [12:46] the - simulates a "true" login [12:46] the '-' means it does a 'login shell' there are variables and other information setup on login, root has a diffrent set of exports/sets than a normal user. [12:46] and gives the environment of the user in question [12:47] ok, it gave me a new bunch of errors [12:47] should i paste bin them? [12:47] score [12:47] pastebin? [12:47] mmk 1 sec [12:47] Dominian: i'm bouncing off the walls today =D [12:47] he [12:47] h [12:48] gonna get a whole 8-10hours in today = [12:48] =] [12:48] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11252 [12:48] i got 8 Nano-ITX mobos [12:48] i should go play with them. [12:48] hehehe [12:48] acidchild, give me [12:48] haha nar [12:48] =D >.< [12:48] beatzz: argh.. tehre's your problem [12:48] KjellB (i=kjellkod@cpe-217-208-253-54.it-roteln.narkotikapolisen.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:48] beatzz: userdel -r beatzz [12:48] then run the adduser utility [12:48] or is it useradd.. [12:48] yeah adduser [12:48] Dominian: his ~ is / [12:49] right [12:49] just use usermod :P [12:49] that's why its not working [12:49] acidchild: bah [12:49] hehe your way works :-P [12:49] acidchild: that's the *easy* way :P [12:49] fine! [12:49] ... ok so uerdel -r beatzz? [12:49] beatzz: paste here, grep beatzz /etc/passwd [12:49] beatzz: usermod -h /home/beatzz beatzz [12:49] beatzz: scratch that [12:50] beatzz: don't do the userdel -r right now [12:50] Action: acidchild leaves this to Dominian [12:50] ted_ (n=ted@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [12:50] no [12:50] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:50] acidchild, beatzz:x:1000:100::/home/beatzz:/bin/bash [12:50] delete it first then modify it [12:50] me_: no. [12:50] me_: his ~ is / [12:50] Dominian, proceding with usermod [12:50] userdel -r removes ~ [12:50] Geting error: Access denied to /media/DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER [12:50] Dominian: doesn't look like it to me :p [12:50] oh [12:50] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [12:50] acidchild: yep.. but su - says something different [12:51] Action: _RadioHead going out to pay internet :) [12:51] beatzz: you should login directly as a user... [12:51] <_RadioHead> yo Dominian :) and laterz [12:51] later _RadioHead [12:51] _RadioHead: ezi, long time no see :-) [12:51] peace... [12:51] beatzz: yeah if you haven't logged in as beatzz yet.. you should [12:51] And was thinging that /dev/hda needs to be linked to /media/DVD_VIDEO_RECORDER but? [12:51] <_RadioHead> acidchild: dude :) [12:51] acidchild, how? i cant start kdm unless im root [12:51] <_RadioHead> totally true [12:51] -.- [12:51] <_RadioHead> i have few days i am online :) and will be for long time:) [12:51] beatzz: why do you need to start kdm? just login as your user [12:51] <_RadioHead> acidchild: how are u? [12:51] and type 'startx' [12:51] _RadioHead: bangin' thanks, yourself? [12:52] at the very begining when linux first starts up? [12:52] typing at a good 130wpm today, BRING ON THE CARPEL TUNNEL y0! [12:52] beatzz: yep. [12:52] acidchild, ok i will give that a shot. [12:52] <_RadioHead> not bad :) happy with slackware :) not happy with kde 4.2.1 [12:52] _RadioHead: a lil ghey eh? ;> i agree. [12:52] people should buy a mac [12:53] beatzz (n=beatzz@97-114-80-78.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:53] holy smokes 130 wpm is some serious speed [12:53] <_RadioHead> acidchild: nvidia and kde 4 like tom and jerry :) [12:53] 95-100% errors? :P [12:53] nar i'm pretty good antler [12:53] i know people who type faster though >.> [12:54] 130 <--- is that even humanly possible?? [12:54] <_RadioHead> acidchild: init out :) or will be your fault if i can`t pay net lol [12:54] antler: yes [12:54] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.15) left irc: "Leaving" [12:54] *sigh* thats sad, dialup interwebz... [12:55] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:56] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [12:56] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-58-107.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [12:56] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:59] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-74-225.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:59] hey all [12:59] acidchild: that's more than double what i do; i redline at about 50 :( [12:59] :| [13:01] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:01] about how long does a clean install go for a first time slackware user? [13:01] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [13:02] Cotowar: i think you can be up and running in about 30 mins [13:02] (full install) [13:02] okay cool [13:03] do i need a network connection during the install? [13:04] no, not if you have the cds / dvd [13:04] yea, i have the dvd. was just wondering because some distros need a network connection [13:04] which is dumb IMO [13:05] completely agree. that's why i don't get to use gentoo :P [13:05] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:05] so yea, I have a dell desktop here with 512MB RAM. it was blazing fast when I bought it, but now its like the US mail...lol [13:06] anyone else ever have that phenomenon occur? maybe its just me being used to my laptop? [13:06] Action: Old_Fogie waves hello to the channel. [13:06] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:06] Action: Cotowar waves to Old_Fogie [13:07] then again, this computer has had windows XP for like 5+ years... [13:07] beatzz (n=beatzz@97-114-80-78.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] that could be part of the problem...\ [13:07] ok, no luck at all [13:07] Guest29167 (n=speedy@blk-137-123-199.eastlink.ca) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [13:07] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [13:08] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [13:08] I rebooted, logged in as my non-root account 'beatzz' typed 'startx' and it gave me a slue of errors [13:08] Cotowar: i think you'll enjoy slackware on that lappy :) [13:08] which errors ? [13:08] pages of them, I cant copy/paste them into here. [13:08] yea, just as soon as I get the DVD burnt. who knew a thinkpad only supported DVD -R? [13:08] Cotowar, such hardware is fine for some tasks. unless you try to run opensolaris on it %) [13:09] they are befor the startx [13:09] so, I logged in as root, startx and eveything works fine [13:09] antler, isn't slackware known for being very modest? it runs on my p3 512 ram just fine [13:10] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [13:10] is it realy so bad to just use root? [13:10] yes [13:10] john_dee: i think it'll be fine on his as well [13:11] well this is just crazy then. [13:11] beatzz what is this slew of errors you're talking about? can you pastebin it somewhere? [13:11] antler, i read that as a question. lol [13:11] I dont think so, they come up befor I even enter the X enviorment [13:11] I could try I supose [13:12] brb [13:12] :/ [13:12] beatzz, also, try removing .Xauth* in your home dir. You may have accidently ruined your perms somehow [13:12] i remeber seeing something about that. [13:12] .xauth [13:12] i had that problem for awhile, it turned out i had made some script that was changing those files to root:root and i couldn't start x as a user afterwards [13:13] Action: antler removed 2gb or ram yesterday and is not noticing any difference in daily computing stuff so far :D [13:13] :/ [13:13] *of [13:13] beatzz, :/ is not very helpful [13:13] antler: nice. I wish I oculd do that [13:14] doh i meant 1 gb [13:14] lol [13:14] now i'm left w/ 2 [13:14] i only have 2GB's [13:14] :( [13:14] sory, i guess im a lil frustrated [13:14] i should be able to figure this stuff out but i cant :x [13:15] beatzz: what are you trying to do? [13:15] ok, rebooting brb w/ hopefully a copy/pastebin of the errors I get when i try to statx as user [13:15] beatzz [13:15] thats if It keeps my copy/paste when i startx as root [13:15] Try starting x as root [13:15] then open another vt [13:15] it works as root [13:15] im in it right now [13:16] ok i have a term open [13:16] im in /root atm [13:16] oh here we go [13:17] you tried to run it as user and it made errors correct? [13:17] correct, [13:17] there should be a log file... let me look around [13:17] v4nelle (n=van@adsl71-100.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:17] open /var/log/Xorg.0.log and pastebinit [13:18] Cann0n_ (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [13:18] hey [13:18] oh... well that should be the log for the session you're in now.... perhaps you want Xorg.0.log.old [13:18] Cann0n_: is for horses. [13:18] he successfully started X as root - that log won't contain gthe errors from startx as user... [13:18] dive, won't the .old log have it? [13:18] me_ (n=me_@89.242.126.181) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:19] ... you mean hay... [13:19] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:19] need to cp it [13:19] also look at .xsession-errors in users home dir. [13:19] Cann0n_: No, maybe you mean Hay ;) [13:20] i don't understand that joke. [13:20] beatzz, so logout, try to start it as user. After it fails, copy /var/log/Xorg.0.log to another file so it doesn't get overwritten. Restart x as root and pastebin the file. [13:20] Cann0n_: hey where are you these days? [13:20] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] No one makes it with where, wear, were or ware. [13:20] hiptobecubic, this file is huge dude [13:20] hiptobecubic, you realy want the whole thing? [13:20] antler: good. you? [13:20] yes the .old log will have it [13:21] Cann0n_: huh? hahah [13:21] beatzz, yes [13:21] ok i have it copyed right now [13:21] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [13:21] but u want me to logout and do all of the above first? [13:21] im in florida still [13:21] then copy/paste [13:21] well wait [13:21] beatzz, use a pastebin site [13:21] :> [13:21] i know [13:21] be heading to georgia next mont... hopefully [13:22] beatzz, is the log you have 'copied' the one with the errors in it? [13:22] hey, "Not state for for card Modem." [13:22] Cann0n_: learned anything from your travels across amerika? :P [13:22] hiptobecubic, I dont know but here is my /var/log/Xorg.whatever u wanted [13:22] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11253 [13:22] as it is right now [13:22] beatzz: Has startx ever worked for your user before? Is this a fresh install? [13:23] fresh install, just this morning [13:23] antler: yea, bring more underware [13:23] wear* [13:23] startx never has worked with my user [13:23] beatzz, when you go to the users home folder, what are the permissions on .Xauth* [13:23] Cann0n_: dood going commando is really in this year [13:23] ls -l .Xauth* [13:24] beatzz: what groups is your user a part of? [13:24] lol [13:24] there is no .Xauth* in /home/beatzz [13:24] agentc0re, i dont know [13:24] agentc0re, users [13:24] lol [13:24] beatzz: cat /etc/groups | grep USERNAME [13:25] beatzz, i have to go eat. Also try asking in #xorg about this. good luck [13:25] or type 'groups' [13:25] root@bin:/home/beatzz# cat /etc/groups | grep USERNAME [13:25] cat: /etc/groups: No such file or directory [13:25] /etc/gorup [13:25] *group [13:25] err my bad, typo. [13:25] /etc/group [13:26] thanks dartmouth. [13:26] root@bin:/home/beatzz# cat /etc/group | grep USERNAME [13:26] root@bin:/home/beatzz# [13:26] np, it's OCD. [13:26] what's wrong with typing 'groups'? [13:26] beatzz: do you have a Goodwill near your home? [13:26] dive: He's not logged in as that user right now. There's nothing wrong with it though. [13:26] Cann0n_, yea ... [13:26] check thrift stores for Linux books. That's how i got all of mine [13:26] ... [13:26] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [13:27] I have several [13:27] other linux distros dont do this... [13:27] they would if they were set up however yours is set up now [13:27] beatzz, how did you create your user account? which commands? [13:27] ... but you didn't even know how to check your groups.... [13:27] beatzz well you didn't create your user account properly. [13:27] useradd beatzz [13:27] beatzz: you don't belong to any groups. [13:27] passwd beatzz [13:28] lol [13:28] beatzz: create it using adduser [13:28] next time use 'adduser' [13:28] beatzz: just type in "adduser" [13:28] does he have to delete this user first? [13:28] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A76131.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] type in users for the first group and then press the up arrow key after that to get the rest. [13:28] anyway, i'm off. have a good day all [13:28] backup anything in the user's directory, if it exists, and run adduser. don't know why ytou're going through this pain [13:28] hiptobecubic: Correct, he should if he wants the same user name. [13:29] agentc0re|work, tell beatzz [13:29] beatzz, all this is explain in the slackbook btw [13:29] realy? [13:29] I have a copy. [13:29] read the copy :P [13:30] Yeah the slackbook is worth the half hour of reading. It pays for itself in time on the first day [13:30] nothing about crazy unexisting files disabling me from running startx [13:30] beatzz, no, but there is info about adding users properly [13:30] sory guys, im getting incredibly frustrated [13:30] anyhoooooo. off to lunch [13:30] beatzz, the problem is because you setup your user account wrong - nothing to do with X [13:30] i need to take a break [13:30] hiptobecubic (n=john@129.171.233.74) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit." [13:30] slackbook is good if you dont know how to install linux [13:30] i know how to install linux [13:30] i do this shit every day [13:31] ... [13:31] beatzz (n=beatzz@97-114-80-78.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:31] ^^ [13:31] me_ (n=me_@89.242.126.181) joined ##slackware. [13:31] noobfarm? [13:31] lol. #no comment [13:31] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:31] heviarti (n=mrbig@63.214.229.41) joined ##slackware. [13:31] slackytude: still lurking? heh i thought you were off work :P [13:32] I am [13:32] at home now [13:32] yes, Im sad like that [13:32] slackytude: Hey. How are you today? [13:32] ah, i thought you were trying to win favours by doing upaid overtime at work [13:32] :D [13:33] slackytude, get to work [13:33] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@121.246.70.71) joined ##slackware. [13:33] firebird619, greetings! doing fine. pretty boring day at work. ok for an monday. how is your day? [13:33] antler, unpaid? overtime? [13:33] Action: slackytude checksdictonary [13:34] slackytude: My day's going good so far. There's bad weather on the way though, possibly Tornadoes. [13:34] slackytude: yes, unpaid overtime = favours from your boss :P no need to check dictionary [13:34] ted_ (n=ted@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:35] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:36] antler, that might be a theory if my boss was a hot women [13:36] I could do with favours then [13:36] firebird619, weather here is shitty as well. not tornado style, but quite depressing [13:37] firebird619, any danger? [13:37] we just got like 50 inches of snow two nights ago here in calgary. it's bhaaad. [13:37] ted_ (n=ted@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [13:38] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [13:38] antler, O_o [13:38] thats a lot of snow [13:38] aint it kinda late for snow? [13:39] yeah, we actually got it on the first day of spring, i think [13:39] slackytude: I don't think the danger of tornadoes is to great, according to the news, but they said there's a chance. There is a decent chance of severe T-storms though, and they said if the sun comes out, there's an even greater chance for bad storms. [13:39] not really 50, but close.... :P [13:40] the weather is insane [13:40] firebird619, is it the time you usually get tornados? [13:40] slackytude: Not really, it's kind of early to be having that kind of weather here. [13:40] How is everyone this lovely day? [13:41] firebird619, insane weather again [13:41] the 21th century sure is fun [13:41] Teh DFW is overcast with some possible rain. [13:42] Make that The, not Teh. I don't do leet. [13:42] slackytude: As long as I have lived here, there has been many tornado warnings and many tornadoes just outside of town, but a tornado has never touched down in the town I am in. [13:42] firebird619, thats good ^-^ [13:42] Action: slackytude likes stating the obvoius [13:43] In Texas they are called Ternaders. [13:43] slackytude: Yeah, it sure is. The story is that the town was built on indian burial grounds and that is what protects the town. I don't believe a tornado has ever touched down in town, but I could be wrong. [13:44] taquito (i=1000@75.22.56.2) joined ##slackware. [13:44] firebird619, thats kinda strange, I thought you usually get bad luck if you mess with burial grounds. [13:44] lol [13:44] Im sure it was on tv, so it must be true [13:44] chicken blood may be the trick slackytude [13:45] slackytude: Well, there hasn't been any bad luck yet. [13:45] firebird619, well, I certainly dont wish you some. quite the opposite [13:45] slackytude: :) Thanks. [13:45] slackytude: Have you tried Opera 10 yet? [13:47] firebird619, was browsing all day with it at work [13:47] anyone know oy an R/C flight sim for linux? [13:47] other than Helix [13:48] firebird619, I think chromeexperiments crashed it once, but otherwise it was fast and no trouble [13:49] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:49] opera managed some of the stuff at chromeexperiments quite well [13:49] t3h_hevz (n=mrbig@63.214.229.48) left irc: Connection timed out [13:49] in others chromes beats the crap out of it [13:50] chrome fails imho [13:50] the demos are quite impressive, imho [13:50] I could do with a linux clone of it [13:50] Have a great Linux day all! [13:50] vfw, likewise ^-^ [13:50] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:51] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [13:51] firebird619, in fact, its great for an alpha build [13:53] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:53] slackytude: Yeah, it seems really stable. [13:53] firebird619, did you try out the stuff at chrome experiments? [13:56] slackytude: No I haven't. [13:56] Nick change: kethry_ -> kethry [13:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430193.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:56] firebird619, I said it already but it is quite impressive [13:57] http://www.chromeexperiments.com/ [13:57] if you are bored at work like me [13:57] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:58] slackytude: Ok, I'll check it out. [13:58] me__ (n=me_@92.26.173.137) joined ##slackware. [14:00] me_ (n=me_@89.242.126.181) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:01] is it very bad if i "rmmod ipv6" from a connected machine? [14:02] why would you even want to do that? [14:02] slackytude: I guess Opera is going to integrate a crash report too, so that when opera crashes, it sends the crash report to Opera to make the product better and crash less, but I think it will be able to be turned off for those that don't like it. [14:03] firebird619, didnt see it [14:03] agentc0re|work, i don't need ipv6 support [14:03] slackytude: I have read some about it, they haven't implemented it yet though, it's still in somewhat of a testing phase. [14:03] firebird619, I see [14:04] agentc0re|work, i was wondering if i can disable it on a running machine. not to wait for a reboot with this module blacklisted [14:04] john_dee, is the modul used? [14:04] slackytude: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2009/03/18/integrated-crashlogging-tool [14:04] slackytude, i don't think so [14:05] it's just pointless to remove. it's not going to "speed" up your machine. [14:05] beatzz (n=root@97-114-80-78.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:05] john_dee, you dont think so? do a lsmod and look at the used by coloumn [14:05] but yes you can remove it during operation. [14:05] agentc0re|work, i am too lazy to create ip6tables rules and too paranoid to leave it open, i guess [14:06] agentc0re|work: ok, I've completly reinstalled slackware12.2 [14:06] slackytude, not used by anything [14:06] agentc0re|work: i havent done anything to the system yet, just logged in as root for the first time, and opened irssi [14:06] agentc0re|work, tnx [14:07] agentc0re|work: so to get a correctly working non-root user account I simply "adduser beatzz" [14:07] ? [14:07] beatzz: type adduser and follow the prompts. [14:07] beatzz, when you get to extra groups part press up arrow [14:09] :x i dident catch that message dive [14:09] beatzz, when you get to extra groups part press up arrow [14:09] of course the prompts tell you what to do.... [14:09] but I did do "adduser" and assigned defaults to all options [14:09] sure you didnt use useradd? [14:09] positive [14:09] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Network is unreachable [14:09] this time i did adduser [14:10] follow the prompts [14:10] i did [14:10] cant go wong [14:10] its done [14:10] and..? [14:10] dive: what happens if i dont add extra groups? [14:10] you dont get them >-< [14:10] ok so im gana try to startx now loged in as beatzz [14:10] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [14:11] there are some like plugdev, power etc that allow you to automount stuff in kde/xfce [14:11] you usually do a xorgsetup or simliar [14:11] sweet! [14:11] firebird619, interessting read [14:11] looks like doing adduser instead of useradd fixed my beatzz:startx issue [14:12] firebird619, I usually think integrated crash reporters are useless and annoying but I'll give it a try with opera [14:12] you know whats realy funny, I was tryin the first install following the instructions laid out in my Linux+ study guide [14:12] heh they ARE annoying [14:12] Linux+ told me to do useradd [14:12] slackytude: Yes, it is. I usually go to my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog every day to see the latest. I have it on a speed dial. [14:13] useradd is ok if you know what you're doing [14:13] it's not an amateur tool [14:13] as you found out :p [14:13] slackytude: I'm not usually fond of those crash reporters either, but I'll see how opera implements it and decide from there. [14:13] beatzz: don't cover up your incompetents... :P [14:13] I swear!!! lol [14:13] antler, yeah,especially the windows and FF stuff [14:14] not knowing what groups you belong t is a sin. [14:14] firebird619, aye [14:14] s/t/to [14:14] slackytude: One nice thing I think will be useful is they finally integrated an automatic updater for when a new version is released, it will let you know about it. [14:14] ok im definitly not slackware material yet [14:14] adduser is made to make life simpler, and it is covered in the slackbook [14:14] but im workin on it. [14:14] ive been on debian distros for years now and love it. [14:14] but i know slackware is the next step [14:14] firebird619, yeah, I read that. hope its gonna work with slack. altho I liked the unobtrosive "there is a new version avaible" too [14:14] growing pains? [14:14] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [14:14] why's that beatzz? [14:15] beatzz: I'd really take a look at http://slackbook.org [14:15] i agree [14:15] beatzz: Covers a lot of the basics of slackware. [14:15] slackytude: Yeah. I guess time will tell whether it works well or not. [14:15] when i stormed out earlier i was very fristrated [14:15] I agree, slackbook is definitly 1337 [14:15] and i will definitly be hiting it up here soon. [14:15] beatzz: ive been O.o [14:16] better than that, it's 1338 [14:16] lol [14:16] well im gana log out of root [14:16] and switch over to my user account [14:16] see yall on the other side [14:16] beatzz: That site plus, http://slackwiki.org and http://slackbuilds.org is all you need. Well and http://slackware.com. [14:16] :) [14:16] thanks for the help too btw all. [14:17] beatzz (n=root@97-114-80-78.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:17] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:17] ive been using slack for 9 years and i still feel like a noob. [14:17] I think i got ignored on those site recommendations. [14:17] lol [14:18] me__ (n=me_@92.26.173.137) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:18] Cann0n_: We all learn something new everyday. :D [14:18] Action: antler pats agentc0re|work on the back. there, there, it's appreciated nonetheless. :D [14:18] Weather or not it's useful or not is another question. [14:18] titter [14:18] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p57A76131.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:18] slackytude2: die imposter! [14:18] antler: Hah /spoon [14:19] who is the real slackytude? [14:19] oy! [14:19] please stand up [14:19] no I'm sparticus [14:19] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A76131.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:19] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [14:19] Action: slackytude stands up [14:20] konishi wa, bitches [14:20] ^^ [14:20] 2 things to remember in this life: 1) never volunteer 2) never stand up ;) [14:20] beatzz (n=beatzz@97-114-80-78.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:20] tada! [14:20] \0/ [14:21] buckylassy (n=palms@adsl-71-134-230-39.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] so lets see here, I guess the next step on my slacktop project is the wifi [14:22] beatzz, wicd [14:22] should be easy, just gata hit up the builds for b43 driver [14:23] slackware dosent have apt-get dose it? [14:23] beatzz: wpa_supplicant [14:23] eh? [14:23] for wireless [14:23] skibur (n=skibur@67.65.197.68) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [14:23] beatzz, no, it doesnt. [14:23] beatzz, http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network&s[]=wireless#wireless_networks [14:24] beatzz, if you do wireless, do yourself a favour and get wicd [14:24] wicd as in the wifi manager? [14:24] hmm thats not the link i was looking for [14:24] i second that [14:24] beatzz, aye [14:25] But if you want to save yourself a headache use wpa_supplicant. [14:25] i have a question. Once you install ndiswrapper including the wireless driver, shouldn't wicd bring up an interface? [14:25] beatzz, slackpkg download wicd [14:25] :P [14:25] it's included in 12.2 [14:25] wicd + b43 firmware = 45 seconds to get wifi working [14:25] wicd is idiot proof. i like it. [14:25] no need to download it [14:26] let me see if I allready have it then [14:26] cause I installed sw12.2 [14:26] as far as fresh install and setting it up [14:26] dive, in /extra [14:26] /extra [14:26] right [14:26] yeah [14:26] on dvd in /extra dir beatzz [14:26] it's in /extra [14:26] ok the install dvd? [14:26] yes [14:26] i need to get it off the dvd? [14:26] beatzz, I think wicd is in /extra [14:26] irssi: Command note found: extra :P [14:26] not* [14:27] Nick change: _arfon_at_lunch -> _arfon_ [14:27] beatzz, or do: [14:27] beatzz, slackpkg download wicd [14:27] i like that better. [14:27] it's version 1.5.6 on dvd, so you better go to packages.slackware.it and get 1.5.9 [14:27] more familure to my apt-get install w/e [14:27] ... [14:27] beatzz: you're one lazy mofo, if you mind my saying so, sir :P [14:27] rofl [14:27] i call it, effecient [14:27] antler: lol [14:28] beatzz: i call it the lazy way [14:28] slackpkg upgrade; slackpkg install wicd ? [14:28] beatzz, also, you should check out slackbuilds.org asap before you get the impulse to look at lp.net [14:28] slackytude, you mean 'vim /etc/slackpkg/mirrors; slackpkg update-gpg; slackpkg update; slackpkg install wicd' or something, right? [14:28] dive, well, yeah [14:28] thrice`: But thats too hard!!!! too many w0rdz /feetstomp [14:28] ;) [14:28] lol [14:28] ok im going with -> slackpkg download wicd [14:29] should i sudo it? [14:29] " /feetstomp" <--- hahahah! [14:29] hahah feetstomp [14:29] you need to run it as root [14:29] /feetstomp [ in bed ] [14:29] beatzz: read those books you have... [14:29] stompfeet as root? [14:29] lol [14:29] beatzz: you can't just make commands up. do exactly what dive said as root [14:29] majikman (n=adam@ip65-44-150-234.z150-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [14:29] i have a question. Once you install ndiswrapper including the wireless driver, shouldn't wicd bring up an interface? [14:30] slackpkg is way underrated. I usually set it up right after install. good habit, imho [14:30] Old_Fogie: chmod 4777 /usr/bin/feetstomp :D [14:30] Action: Cann0n_ accidently alliased /feetstomp with exec rm -rf / when he first installed Slackware. [14:30] opps [14:30] LOL [14:30] (but forget the update-gpg part) [14:30] what group perm? I mean you can't let *everyone* just footstomp you know. [14:30] or is that suid? [14:30] well, im done geeking out. [14:30] Old_Fogie: suid [14:31] how do you select a mirror in /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [14:31] beatzz: don't reply on automatic shit to get you by on slackware... otherwise, stick to ubuntu. [14:31] uncomment one [14:31] usremod -g footstomp agentc0re|work [14:31] lol s/reply/rely [14:31] it's now your primary group :) [14:31] Old_Fogie: HAHA :) [14:31] beatzz, find one near to your location/country find the correct version and delete the # at start of line [14:32] dive: thanks :) [14:32] beatzz, then do 'slackpkg update; slackpkg install wicd' [14:32] Cann0n_: please forgive my ignorance, but im tryin to advance past ubuntu [14:33] beatzz, I thought you said debian [14:33] isent ubuntu a debian distro? [14:33] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [14:33] hi. i am using the kde3-compat packages in -current. i need the requirements for building qt3 apps, no limited to qt3-moc et al. Since these do not come in the qt3 package in /kde3-compat but do generally come with the qt3 package would the slackbuild be the best way to go? [14:33] or debian based* [14:33] beatzz: yep, keep with it :) [14:33] beatzz, another great resource is 'man' pages - e.g. 'man slackpkg' will tell you all that we just have [14:33] dive, heh [14:33] man bash is a good one [14:34] Using 12.2 and notice that /etc/rc.d/rc.local doesn't seem to do anything (even though the executable bit is set for it). What could be causing that? [14:34] man bash slackytude on the head with a frozen eel [14:34] Old_Fogie: Hey so I haven't talk to you in a while. The new netbook is fast and sleek but I have two problems with it. Suspend for longer than 2 min and it wont return out of suspend and I had to use a 2.6.29rc1 mainstream kernel to fix Suspend from disabling irq16(usb's and audio). [14:34] vfw, it comes empty [14:34] vfw, did you put anything for it to do in it? [14:34] Old_Fogie: Hopefully will be fixed soon. [14:34] Old_Fogie: Yes [14:34] ah, nvm [14:34] vfw, maybe theres an error in what you put in? [14:35] vfw: maybe the script you put in it to be run itself is not executable? [14:35] agentc0re|work, ah the audio was hanging for me, I just rmmod the sound to make life easier. seems linux needs that on alot of laptops with alsa, dont know why. [14:35] dive: No, I tried from the CLI same commands and it worked. [14:35] vfw, what did you put in? [14:35] wanna pastebin it then? [14:35] agentc0re|work, hanginng...not all the times, just sometimes, so I get the modules out. [14:35] because some things like $PATH is different [14:35] when it runs at boot [14:36] buckylassy (n=palms@adsl-71-134-230-39.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:36] Old_Fogie: Oh well remember i have the newer one (10.1") unless you recently got that one too. [14:36] I just put in commands for wlan0 to connect. /sbin/iwconfig wlan0 essid VFW-Post-2137 ; /sbin/dhclient wlan0 [14:36] but on seperate lines. [14:36] Old_Fogie: it came with a lot of different hardware which is why i am having the problems i'm having. [14:36] agentc0re|work, nope I have the older one, but maybe some app is hanging the sound now and again, dunno. but was a quick enuff google/fix to git er' done. [14:37] agentc0re|work, what's the other issue on it? [14:37] Old_Fogie: Lucky you. [14:37] dive: slackytude Any clues? [14:37] Old_Fogie: I have a bug filed for one of them, hopefully it gets fixed in 2.6.29 when it comes out. [14:37] vfw, looks lit ought to work - does it work when you run rc.local manually? [14:37] vfw, not really, that looks about right. except, dont use dhclient [14:37] s/lit/like it [14:38] dhcpcd > dhclient [14:38] Yes, appears to work when I run manually. [14:38] vfw, since rc.local is for everyboot, then why not just use the scripts that are already in slackware for wireless. or why not use the wicd in /extra? just a wondering why you're taking a longer route. [14:39] Old_Fogie: Good idea..... [14:39] nice essid, btw [14:39] vfw, I mean, you have slackware running it's network and wireless scripts, and then rc.local kicks in and now you're changeing the whole game, ipt ables too [14:39] yes it would be wiser to configure rc.inet1.conf [14:39] or just use wicd [14:39] but that doesn't explain the mysteries of the rc.local :> [14:39] altho I've done stuff like that and it worked [14:39] dive, yeah ^-^ [14:39] afterall he might want to put other things in it later [14:40] taquito (i=1000@75.22.56.2) left irc: Success [14:40] maybe I'll just install wicd [14:40] But just want it to connect.... [14:40] Cann0n_ (n=jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:40] Well, don't really want the option, someone may accidentally disconnect. [14:40] vfw, wicd is so straight forward, my granddaughter can do it [14:40] dive: ok, i preformed as root, slackpkg update & slackpkg download wicd [14:40] vfw, the usualy thing to do is to output debuging information [14:40] rc.local should be run from rc.M so you might want to look in there at some point [14:41] dive: should I try slackpkg install wicd next? [14:41] beatzz, /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start as root, then run wicd-client as user [14:41] ah yes [14:42] vfw, like echo starting; /sbin/iwconfig wlan0 ; echo $? or something [14:42] '/etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start' as rot? [14:42] root* [14:42] but download already downloaded it to /var/cache/packages/ [14:42] so just installpkg it [14:42] ok, installpkg wicd [14:42] gotcha [14:42] tilinho (n=jeferson@200.175.218.113) joined ##slackware. [14:43] so once you download a package from slackpkg, then you installpkg [14:43] and next time use 'slackpkg install/reinstall/upgrade' with the 'download' step ;-) [14:43] slackpkg will install it for you [14:43] if you use 'install' command instead of 'download' [14:44] umm [14:44] error [14:44] s/with/without/ [14:44] can i paste it here? [14:44] no [14:44] its only 3 lines [14:44] pastebin [14:44] ? [14:44] no [14:44] ok [14:45] well if it's 3 lines... dunno [14:45] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:45] 4 is considered flood isn't it? [14:45] better stick to pastebin ;) [14:45] beatzz: I did /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start and nothing seems to be happening... [14:45] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11255 [14:45] yes [14:45] Maybe wicd only works on fully supported cards? [14:45] beatzz, full name [14:45] nxs|konus (n=konus@staticline2725.toya.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:45] dive so he pastes his output and then types something real quick, booted. [14:45] vfw: i wasent refering to your problem, sorry [14:45] heh. [14:46] beatzz, type the full name of the package [14:46] Well, anyway, wicd dosen't seem to do anything for me. [14:46] ahh [14:46] do I need to restart networking or something? [14:46] vfw, does it detect your network? [14:46] vfw, permissions? launch it from a term? [14:47] do you get a gui at all even? [14:47] cuz I *know* you couldnt have read _any_ docs for it in this time :) [14:47] Old_Fogie: I did... but no icon came up down below. [14:48] dive: Wicd is now installed, seems to work ok. [14:48] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [14:48] dive: now i need to get the b43-firmware correct? [14:48] dive: from perhaps, www.slackbuid.org [14:48] beatzz, just need put in settings for the connection now [14:48] no idea about broadcoms... [14:48] doesnt slack come with b43? [14:48] does the module load? [14:49] beatzz, does it show your network in the gui? [14:49] dose the module load.. not shure exactly what that means [14:49] let me check my network settings [14:49] I think I'll reboot and see what happens... [14:49] brb [14:49] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) left irc: "leaving" [14:49] if you can see network then module is loaded and working [14:50] looks like slack comes with driver but no firmware [14:50] or driver or whatever [14:50] well, when i go into Network settings [14:50] i can see that i have eth0 and wlan0 [14:50] wlan0 is currently disabled [14:50] beatzz, does it show your network in the gui? [14:50] ah [14:50] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.60.79) left irc: No route to host [14:50] like my signal strength to my wireless network? [14:51] network settings? is that in kde? if so, don't use it. [14:51] yes if it shows the network at all it should fine I think [14:51] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.16.121) joined ##slackware. [14:51] it gave me an error [14:51] "there was an error changing the devices state, you must do it manualy" [14:51] anyone knows how to work with wpa_supplicant ? got a log here , dont know what do to > http://pastebin.com/m7f58703 [14:51] what do you mean by network? [14:51] u mean my NIC's? or the actualy wireless network [14:51] 2WIRE918 [14:52] mikk0 (n=mikk01@YMMDCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [14:52] I mean the actual wireless AP [14:52] ok no [14:52] i see no AP's [14:53] when I try to activate my wireless device it say's i will have to do it manualy [14:53] im guessing thats gana be something along the lines of iwconfig or ifconfig correct? [14:53] right ok - never had that so I guess it would mean yes - firmware or some other broadcom thing [14:54] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:55] nxs|konus (n=konus@staticline2725.toya.net.pl) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [14:56] beatzz, if you are thinking of installing the firmware from slackbuild.org look at sbopkg [14:56] sbopkg.org [14:56] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [14:57] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [14:57] hackeron (n=hackeron@gentoo/user/hackeron) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:57] hackeron_ (n=hackeron@cpc2-seve19-2-0-cust712.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:59] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [14:59] wicd works after reboot. Mabye I only needed to restart network. [14:59] vfw, wicd should do that itself I thought.. [15:00] How can I dissable another device. (Wired NIC) [15:00] you can run wicd with no settings at all in rc.inet1.conf [15:00] /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [15:00] Im thinking the powersupply could be weak. [15:00] Something's just not right. [15:01] Blacklist? [15:01] How to use blacklist? Or, what's the best way to dissable a device. [15:01] ? [15:01] "/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 stop" or edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [15:02] or both in reverse order [15:02] ;) [15:02] then look in wicd settings [15:02] then you could blacklist the module if it's still a problem [15:02] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "Leaving." [15:03] /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist [15:04] DeeeeP, how do you start supplicant? [15:04] john_dee, default , wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [15:04] anyone in the house using patriot ram? /me is in the market for 2x1gb (44.99cdn x 2) cheapest ddr i've been able to find in my area [15:05] patriot ram? nice name [15:05] 'patriot' ram? sounds like a marketing ploy [15:05] and 44 cdn are how much euros or USD ? [15:05] DeeeeP: www.xe.com/ucc [15:06] dive: yeah, i've never heard of patriot either until recently [15:06] u should talk in standard language :) [15:06] well I've heard of patriot missiles and the patriot act [15:06] lifetime warranty [15:07] dive, maybe they use patriot ram [15:07] both of which I can't say I'm impressed by [15:07] DeeeeP, are you sure you're not using the worng password? [15:07] dive: lol [15:07] john_dee, not sure [15:07] DeeeeP, make sure %) [15:07] dive: what about mel gibson's 'the patriot'? [15:07] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] it probably phones home to the fbi when you look at iranian w/sites [15:07] cant , its a neighbours router :) [15:07] Pro Tip: want to hide your writings on the net from google? prepend all your words with special character like $ or # [15:07] :) [15:07] used the thompson algorithm [15:07] :) [15:08] nxs|konus (n=konus@staticline2725.toya.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:09] hmmm a pair of kingstons for 54.99 each [15:10] DeeeeP, i guess you should then crack neighbours "password" :D [15:10] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: " akryl är typ plugnplay och olja är typ DOS" [15:10] no need to crack , john_dee [15:10] john_dee: canadian, eh? [15:10] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [15:10] beatzz (n=beatzz@97-114-80-78.spkn.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:10] antler, how do you know? [15:10] john_dee, http://www.nickkusters.com/SpeedTouch.aspx :) [15:10] john_dee: your spelling [15:11] neighbour [15:11] antler, not really canadian :) [15:11] colour [15:11] neighbour is also UK spelling [15:11] john_dee: well, in any case, you're obviously influenced by the brits [15:11] how's US spelling ? [15:11] -u [15:12] antler, maybe. they're definitely closer than canada :) [15:12] but brits influenced by the french which is where all the u's came from [15:12] *everybody* writes "colour" and "neighbour" ;) [15:12] dive: really? [15:12] so i understand it [15:12] antler, most likely [15:12] Camarade_Tux: the americans do 'color' [15:13] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:13] antler, I know but, just "colour" ! :p [15:13] Camarade_Tux: the americans do 'draft' as opposed to 'draught' [15:13] more? [15:13] actually I usually write "colour" but I just noticed I also write "grep --color" and "ls --color" [15:14] we do both draft and draught [15:14] dive: you're inclined to the s's and not the z's, yeah? [15:14] yes whenever I code anythung I try to use 'colour' for var names [15:15] oh yes lots of s's - although when I got my domain and found that unrealise.co.uk was taken I got unrealize instead [15:15] traitor [15:15] I know [15:17] ha it's free now [15:17] Action: BP{k} gets it ;) [15:17] too late though - been using that email for years... [15:18] BP{k}, ok, how much do you want for it? [15:18] vfw (n=vfw@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:18] :> [15:18] risperidon (n=risperid@189.77.60.158) joined ##slackware. [15:19] btw thanks, rworkman [15:19] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.145.117) left irc: "leaving" [15:19] BP{k}! [15:20] how'd you get your font rendering to look so damn nice? [15:20] dive: I'll make you a deal ... [15:20] DeeeeP, good reading :) then again the error looks like the key is wrong [15:20] something to do with malt whisky I bet :> [15:20] dive: Just get me a Islay - Ardberg Double Barrel [15:20] ok [15:20] new it [15:21] damm, my reputation proceeds me :-] [15:21] dive: http://www.whiskyshop.com/Shop/Detail.aspx?whisky=Ardbeg-Double-Barrel&pid=2505 ;) [15:21] better a bad reputation than none [15:21] I like the stuff myself but don't know where to get good stuff from [15:21] DeeeeP, or maybe encryption parameters. group cipher, pairwise etc [15:21] konus (n=konus@91.121.174.84) left irc: "ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net" [15:21] Chrysalis (n=UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) joined ##slackware. [15:21] slackytude: :D [15:22] Action: dive falls over [15:22] john_dee, i just changed essid and passwd on wpa_supplicant.conf [15:22] dive: hmm both asda and tesco have a decent range of single malts to start with. [15:22] ted_ (n=ted@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:22] router uses wpa with TKIP [15:22] wpa 1 [15:22] DeeeeP, they are setup automatically in most cases. but that can be encryption type mismatch. can check that easy using backtrack3 [15:23] BP{k}, thanks, now I know what I want for my birthday [15:23] antler: uhm no idea. I think I hitched some fonts from a windows install somewhere. that is about it. [15:23] dive: depends quite also on your taste. If you like smokey/pewtey flavours, look into the Islay malts. [15:23] DeeeeP, it shows APs parameters when connecting [15:23] BP{k}, ok [15:23] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.46.41) left irc: "Leaving" [15:23] i wont install that distro just to check -.- [15:24] DeeeeP, it's livecd :) [15:24] ill read wpa man [15:24] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-10-102.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:24] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.46.41) joined ##slackware. [15:26] DeeeeP, you can set both ciphers to CCMP TKIP if it's WPA. [15:26] dive: I pretty much started just tasting the different bottles. Me and a friend, gave each other a unique bottle of single malt for our repsective birthdays. And always something we did not have had before. Which was a great way to explore new whisky's [15:26] pairwise=CCMP TKIP [15:26] i think it is [15:27] right [15:27] DeeeeP, same for "group=" [15:27] group=CCMP TKIP WEP104 WEP40 [15:27] I've only really tried out the common ones in tescos etc [15:27] DeeeeP, you don't need WEP if it's WPA [15:27] DeeeeP, so just the first two [15:28] will hurt config ? [15:28] DeeeeP, shouldn't [15:28] ok, then stays [15:29] i mean removing :) [15:29] ok ill remove [15:29] konus (n=konus@ns1.noxis.org) joined ##slackware. [15:30] pirving (n=Talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:30] john_dee, same [15:30] ill try later with my router [15:31] nxs|konus (n=konus@staticline2725.toya.net.pl) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [15:31] do they have pre-configured passes? [15:31] stew (i=1413@freenode/staff/stew) left irc: "leaving" [15:32] i have psk="47069C87DA" [15:32] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:34] maybe they just change the pass? [15:34] maybe [15:34] the link quality isnt the better [15:34] can be that too [15:36] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:36] what's their ssid? [15:36] ssid="ThomsonBDCF05" [15:38] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [15:38] so it's gotta be only two keys [15:38] sorry ? [15:39] For instance, if the target SSID is SpeedTouchF8A3D03, we can narrow down the number of possible keys to only two [15:39] that side narrows to 1 key [15:39] site * [15:39] tilinho (n=jeferson@200.175.218.113) left irc: "Leaving" [15:40] incorrect one :D [15:40] tell me the other [15:40] there's a link to the article above the generator. it says 6 hex digits = 2 keys [15:42] Original Article ? [15:42] yep [15:42] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:43] BP{k}: pm? [15:44] prodigy (i=1000@173.74.119.165) joined ##slackware. [15:44] arcaos (n=chatzill@host-12-205-154.linksat.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [15:45] Hey, have you guys heard the Verizon Math recording? [15:47] gné ? [15:48] (which means "no, not at all") [15:48] christian (n=christia@kobz-590f9090.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [15:48] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [15:49] oh, I see, it made it to xkcd iirc ;) [15:49] Camarade_Tux: http://media.putfile.com/Verizon-Bad-Math which is the whole thing about 27min long or look it up on youtube - verizon math. [15:49] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:51] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) left irc: [15:51] firebird619, you still there? [15:51] arcaos (n=chatzill@host-12-205-154.linksat.net.ar) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]" [15:52] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.145.117) joined ##slackware. [15:52] he, http://xkcd.com/verizon/ ;) [15:53] Nick change: Bartels -> Bartels|away [15:53] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:53] Bartels|away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [15:54] Camarade_Tux, nice [15:54] Camarade_Tux: btw.. that's... old.. I've seen that ilke... a million times hehe [15:54] v4nelle (n=van@adsl71-100.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:54] I told you a thousand time to stop exagerating [15:56] Tyrael_ (n=bart@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:56] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:56] Tyrael_ (n=bart@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:57] agentc0re, where does this come from? [15:57] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [15:57] agentc0re|work, , where does this come from? [15:58] slackytude: what do you mean? [15:58] the recording... [15:58] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.49.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:58] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "link closed" [15:58] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:59] slackytude: It's Verizon customer support. [15:59] slackytude: The guy having all the trouble recorded it. [15:59] ah,ok. some dude called them and recored it, gotcha [15:59] is this genuine? [15:59] Yup. [15:59] It was slashdotted back in 2006 from what i'm finding out. [16:00] http://www.verizonmath.com/index.htm [16:01] slackytude: Yeah, I'm here. I was getting an apple. :) [16:02] firebird619, nice ^-^ [16:02] firebird619, there is an article about opera on thedailywtf.com. or rather from opera Q&A [16:03] slackytude: Ok, I'll have to check it out. Thanks. [16:03] MrDusty (n=dusty@88-105-90-19.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [16:04] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:04] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.42.129) joined ##slackware. [16:05] slackytude: I tried importing my mail from 9 to 10 and each time a try, it seg faults. [16:07] That's an interesting article. [16:08] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-147-151-13.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] Joker_-_ (n=joker@64.235.198.63) joined ##slackware. [16:11] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-10-87.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:11] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-2-248.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:12] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:12] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:12] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:12] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [16:12] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:12] me_ (n=me_@78.147.193.21) joined ##slackware. [16:15] firebird619, gonna check that tomorrow [16:16] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] slackytude: I used the import feature, but I figured I could try just copying the mail folder over and see if 10 picks it up. [16:16] and that got you a segfault? [16:17] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:18] Nick change: konus -> k0nus [16:18] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [16:18] slackytude: with the import feature, yeah. [16:19] fevel_ (n=fevel@200.222.42.129) joined ##slackware. [16:19] alrite, gonna look at it [16:19] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.42.129) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:19] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:19] LikeVinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:19] dartmouth: is this about the question you asked in #slackbuilds? [16:20] BP{k}: you on dope or what? [16:20] BP{k}: indeed [16:21] alienBOB: hmm there was some odd greenstuff in my sandwhich this afternoon. [16:21] i am an iddddiot with qt stuff. it's only a dependency for something im wanting to build [16:22] avant-window-navigator in -current [16:22] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:22] slackytude: ./opera: line 363: 3722 Segmentation fault "$OPERA_BINARYDIR/opera" "$@" [16:22] jota-_ (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [16:22] but yeah the kde3-compat qt3 package didn't have moc-qt3 in it [16:24] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:24] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:24] me_ (n=me_@78.147.193.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:24] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.16.121) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:26] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:26] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [16:27] dartmouth: anyway, I haven't actually even played with the newer -current yet, so I am really no help there. [16:27] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.50.193) joined ##slackware. [16:28] dartmouth: what's the actual error message? [16:29] me_ (n=me_@78.147.193.21) joined ##slackware. [16:30] R4bb1T (i=R4bb1T@187-26-152-65.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:32] man,I drank too much coffee today :( [16:33] sirukin (n=bryan@pdpc/supporter/active/sirukin) joined ##slackware. [16:33] blasphemy [16:33] lol [16:34] If I could get coffee via intravenus I would [16:34] When you crap out coffee beans... then you've had too much [16:34] well, and the fridge is empty too. kinda forgot taht [16:36] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [16:37] fevel_ (n=fevel@200.222.42.129) left irc: [16:37] me_ (n=me_@78.147.193.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:38] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:38] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [16:41] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.1) left irc: [16:42] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:42] me_ (n=me_@78.147.193.21) joined ##slackware. [16:43] hi, if slack 12,2 is compiled for 32 bits, and i have a 64 bit processor, it's running the kernel and whatever apps in 32 bit mode, but if i'm getting ati catalysit driver, i should use the 32 bit one, right? [16:44] blkdg, 32 bit slack get's 32 bit drivers [16:44] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:44] slackytude: I tried transferring my mail by copying the mail folder. It transferred the folder structure, but not the mail itself. :) [16:44] you cant use 64bit drivers on a 32bit install [16:45] i am looking at a slack wiki now, and going to check slackbuilds.org [16:45] firebird619, well, almost there [16:45] firebird619, actually I just remebered that it worked for me [16:45] thanks Old_Fogie ans mikk0 [16:46] firebird619, well, Ive got an IMAP account and just gave email account data, and it was all there, which is kinda the point of IMAP [16:46] off-topic: is fakeroot secure? I mean in theory, you should be able to make a binary, and suid root it, and run it out of your home no? [16:46] firebird619, so I wont be able to test this [16:46] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-71-104.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [16:46] slackytude: Heh. Yeah. I removed the .opera10 folder and let it create a new one and then I will see if it imports the mail from opera 9. Yeah, I have POP, no IMAP. [16:46] weird, no slackbuilds for ati, there are for nvidia [16:46] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@189-69-94-59.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:46] blkdg, fglrx [16:47] let me look [16:48] Old_Fogie: thanks i see it [16:48] but there's no 12.2 packages [16:48] roger dodger [16:48] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [16:49] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-71-104.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:49] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:49] AzalynX (n=midgar@69.70.117.114) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [16:51] Old_Fogie: do you have an ati card fglrx=catalyst [16:51] cool [16:51] :) [16:55] will it be safe to use 12.1 slackubuilds on a 12.2 machine? [16:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430193.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430193.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430193.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:57] when using ssl certs with apache you need to input the master password when its started, don't you? [16:59] slackytude: I think I know why it didn't transfer the mail itself, Opera 10 uses a new mail format and I suppose it didn't pick up and auto convert the old stuff. [16:59] giuppy (n=giuppy@host187-164-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:01] jonsmith1982: only if you have a cert that is passphrase-protected [17:01] But you can remove the passphrase from the cert [17:01] firebird619, right, I think someone told me something like that [17:02] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] qneo (n=knao@adsl-d50.84-47-13.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [17:02] thanks alienBOB. [17:02] slackytude: Yeah, they changed it again in 10. On another note, there is a Tornado watch out now for counties very close to mine. :) [17:02] O_o [17:02] good luck [17:02] slackytude: Heh. Thanks. I might need it. :D [17:04] me_ (n=me_@78.147.193.21) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:04] slackytude: Thank goodness when you right click and delete something it goes to trash, I almost lost all my e-mail due to a stupid mistake. I dragged and dropped my mail from 9 to 10 instead of copying. Then I removed the .opera10 folder to create a new one, which deleted my opera 9 mail folder I had transfered over. [17:05] is it a security threat not to have a pass phrase protected private key? [17:05] hehe, ^.^ [17:05] jonsmith1982: it might [17:05] If you store the cert on a server you are not trusting completely [17:05] slackytude: That would not have been good. Over 16,000 e-mails would have been gone. [17:05] firebird619, you need IMAP O_o [17:06] The threat being that someone steals that ssl cert and sets up a forged web site [17:06] slackytude: Yeah, no kidding. I don't think my ISP offers that though. I'll have to check it out sometime. [17:07] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-147-151-13.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:07] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-147-151-13.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:07] alienBOB: when compiling the avahi slackbuild I get this: http://pastebin.com/d7632ff6c [17:07] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-147-151-13.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:07] P4C0 (n=susana@190.141.75.90) joined ##slackware. [17:08] anyway [17:08] Im gonna go catch some sleep [17:08] hello, has anyone used bluetooth with slackware?? I'm trying to peer my cell phone but the pin seems to be failing... [17:09] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:09] beatzz (n=beatzz@97-114-105-81.spkn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] dive: you still around? [17:10] after installing wicd onto my slackware12.2 laptop [17:10] neither wired, or wifi worked [17:11] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:11] hey, I'm don't know how to umount memory stick, every time it says the device is busy...is there any process or something what blocks it ? [17:11] me_ (n=me_@78.147.193.21) joined ##slackware. [17:11] no konqueror has it open [17:11] being in the same directory cuba in another terminal or something [17:12] am i retarded for liking yakuake? [17:12] dartmouth: do you have /opt/kde3/lib/qt3/bin/moc ? [17:12] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A76131.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:12] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-71-204-116-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] mesa, omg, so simple :) [17:12] beatzz (n=beatzz@97-114-105-81.spkn.qwest.net) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [17:13] crap [17:13] where is my bash profile please? [17:13] ~/.bash_profile perhaps? [17:13] Create it [17:13] alienBOB: i have it [17:14] dartmouth: is /opt/kde3/lib64/qt3/bin in your $PATH ? [17:14] no but i have /opt/kde3/lib/qt3/bin [17:14] Yeah goo [17:14] d [17:14] me_: why would that be retarded? I used to use and like yakuake but no longer have any kde on my boxen. [17:15] Nick change: mesa -> dtanner [17:15] thanks again [17:15] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [17:15] alienBOB: could this just be me needing to set a path variable to the avant-window-navigator configure script? [17:15] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-71-204-116-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:15] well i only like it really because it scrolls down and looks cool [17:15] Nick change: Urchlay_ -> Urchlay [17:15] and yes ~.bash_profile it was [17:15] Then there should be no reason for moc not to be found. There will be a config.log, what can you find in there? It should have logged the commands and actions that lead to the verdict "Could not find QT3 moc" [17:16] i have a perl thing there that's annoying the shuit out of me [17:16] dartmouth: you can't even compile avahi, without that the avant build will fail too as far as I can see from the post you made [17:16] "verdict" is probably the best description I ever heard for that :) [17:17] hello alienBOB , hey chopp. hows it going today fellows? [17:17] dtanner: hi [17:17] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [17:17] dtanner: evening. [17:18] sup nullman [17:18] back home \o/ [17:18] hey there BP{k} =) how are you? [17:18] dtanner: not bad at all. Chow was good. :) [17:18] can you use BIND as a caching only server? [17:18] dtanner: hello [17:19] BP{k}: i just had some extra moist smoked Brisket at the best BBQ place around Austin. [17:19] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.50.193) left irc: "Leaving" [17:19] It is called "Rudy's" .. there are like three of them here in Austin, damn it is good [17:19] dtanner: damm you! :) [17:19] me_: yes [17:20] cool [17:20] bluetooth anyone? I'm getting hcid[4011]: Unable to get on D-Bus when I start rc.bluetooth [17:20] me_: you mean just use it for locahost primary/secondary dns server correct ? [17:20] no [17:21] P4C0: not here with the bluetooth, i whave never tried any bluetooth connections in Linux [17:21] :( [17:21] i mean having no zones locally, just using it like a proxy so every other time that record is searched for the user won't have to send dns requests over the internet [17:21] my bluetooth mouse works [17:22] a central DNS cache [17:22] all i had to do was manually sync it the first time and from then on out i just turn on my mouse and it connects [17:22] i would like too try it out someday , maybe sync my palm pilot with bluetooth to sync PIM stuff into whatever program in linux . copilot(formerly jpilot) is good for syncing with a palm. hmm mine needs chargind [17:22] dtanner: I miss the old spareribs place near where I lived .. all you can eat for a rather decent price :) [17:22] P4C0: i ahve only uised the usb connection for syncin my palm so far [17:23] BP{k}: they have three different kinds of ribs at Rudy's also =) [17:23] alienBOB: http://pastebin.com/d34a35c21 I'm not so good with reading these, but what I found for 'moc' was just a configure line and not the command. [17:23] BP{k}: this is wherre i ate today -> http://rudys.com/ [17:24] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [17:24] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:24] dtanner: nice :) [17:25] me_ (n=me_@78.147.193.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:26] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:26] It is my favorite BBQ place ever since i discovered it when i moved to Austin a couple of years ago [17:28] <_arfon_> Rudy's is good [17:28] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.154) joined ##slackware. [17:28] <_arfon_> RailRoad BBQ in Manchaca is better [17:28] ah another rudy's fan [17:28] never been to that one _arfon_ [17:28] <_arfon_> Yeah Rudy's beats Bill Miller and PokeJoes [17:29] defo beats Bill Millers [17:29] <_arfon_> I's a single small one on 1626.... [17:29] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Connection timed out [17:29] is this a bug? "hcid[4175]: Passkey agent replied with an error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied, Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.57" (uid=0 pid=4175 comm="/usr/sbin/hcid -s -f /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf ") interface="org.bluez.PasskeyAgent" member="Request" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination=":1.58" (uid=0 pid=4182 comm="/usr/lib/bluetooth/add-passkey --default "))" [17:29] never tried Pokejoes [17:29] <_arfon_> PokeJoes = eh... [17:31] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:32] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] greetings and salutations [17:33] _arfon_: have you tried the famous "corn" they server at rudy's ? it has a thick sweet sauce almost like a caserolle [17:33] hello andarius [17:34] Hi andarius. How are you? [17:34] dartmouth: look at these lines: configure:26566: checking for moc [17:34] configure:26599: result: no [17:35] salutations dtanner [17:35] sup firebird619 ? =) are you happily scanning/printing on your brother all in one now ? [17:35] firebird619: salutations. i am well. you ? [17:35] I would suggest that you look at line 26566 of the configure script and try to figure out how it tries to find moc and why it tfails [17:35] dtanner: Yes, I sure am. It's still working good. [17:36] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [17:36] andarius: I am good. There's some severe weather headed this way, even produced a tornado, so I'm keeping an eye on that. [17:36] <_arfon_> Yes, I like the corn [17:36] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:36] How are you dtanner? [17:36] firebird619: one thing i love about Linux is when you get a device configured properly it just works and works and works ... =) no surprises except for hardware failures =0 [17:36] -aryeah , it kicks arse [17:37] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:37] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [17:37] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] dtanner: Yes, that is very nice to have it just work and work and work. I've had many more issues with something not working in Windows than in Linux. [17:38] firebird619: doing good , still working on getting my studio all setup and connected in my new studio room ( converted the living room over got rid of some furniture , putputting guitar hangers on the wall to not have 5-6 guitars suiitting on stands and can be tripped over and take up too much real estate in the room [17:38] dtanner: Nice. When is your new monitors, sub expected to arrive? [17:38] 3-5 business days =) [17:39] dtanner: Cool. Not to long to wait then. [17:39] firebird619: oh i upgraded the monitrs to the next step up in the fistex line [17:39] here is the link to the ones i finally decided on after i went and listened at the guitar center [17:39] the fostex PM-1 mkII [17:39] dtanner: I am loving that the MIDI cable I got works with Linux. [17:40] dtanner: The closest Guitar Center to me is 50 miles away. [17:40] firebird619: http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fostex-PM1-MKII-Active-Nearfield-Studio-Monitors-Pair?sku=600685 [17:40] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [17:41] and the same sub i already showed you the sub , i was going to get the PM-05's now i am getting the PM-1 set to go with the sub . after many many reviews and tons of research that is my best bang for my budget to get into some pro audio quality monitors/sub [17:42] dtanner: They are really nice. It's always good to do research and get the best you can for the money you want to spend. [17:42] alienBOB: http://pastebin.com/m36df4dff <-- this is all i could come up with...i tried echoing all the variables it was using and they're all empty [17:43] dtanner: Plus, it's always nice to, like you did, go somewhere and see the product for yourself and see what it's like. [17:44] gar0t0 (n=Tiago@189-69-94-59.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "fui embora" [17:44] my best guess would be line 28 in that last post, but i have no idea what im doing [17:44] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] newyork|gen (n=newyork@80.145.223.67) joined ##slackware. [17:45] hi [17:46] QT3_PREFIX="/opt/kde3/lib/qt3/"; ? [17:48] dartmouth: add "PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/kde3/lib64/pkgconfig" to your environment [17:48] dartmouth: add "PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/kde3/lib/pkgconfig" to your environment [17:49] You can add it system-wide (in /etc/profile) or add it to the SlackBuild script as "export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/kde3/lib/pkgconfig" [17:49] i should probably do it system-wide [17:49] No harm in that. But you need to logout and login again to make it effective then [17:50] hi [17:50] why is this wrong ? [17:50] a=$(bint ../bl.jpg) ; sed -i s/www.imagebin.org//g < $a [17:54] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [17:54] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:54] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [17:55] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [17:55] Agiofws: try removing the "<" [17:56] And what is "bint" ? 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[18:38] i keep rebuilding k3b under -current as new svn work comes out but it still seems fairly unstable [18:38] nullboy: you might like this: http://blog.mandriva.com/2009/03/19/mandriva-helps-porting-k3b-in-qt4/ [18:39] thrice`: thanks [18:39] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:39] which build would you recommend? gsb or gware? [18:40] neither have a 12.2 release, do they? [18:40] not the last time i checked. and that was about a week ago [18:41] I wouldn't recommended either, actually [18:42] i don't want dropline since it installs it's own Xorg. and i'm not sure i'll build one from source and tune it to a usable state fast enough [18:43] i mean, i did build for 12.1, but it behaved not really well [18:43] just accept the fact that Slackware is not a gnome orientated distro, if i wanted to do gnome i would dual boot debian with slackware side by side [18:43] bummer :( sorry, I have nothing constructive to add. have you considered xfce ? [18:44] sadly, there do not seem to be any good gnome options around / up to date lately [18:44] i agree with Pig_Pen [18:44] not that my opinion means jack though ;) [18:45] that would make a good dual boot scenerio = the two oldest distros still being developed [18:45] DoNoBaN (i=1000@77.208.190.225) joined ##slackware. [18:47] Pig_Pen, i think it just takes much effort to build and tweak, not that Slack and Gnome can't go along. [18:47] no, but requires dedication [18:47] as a matter of fact i will download debian x86 dvd #1 just for posterity [18:47] thrice`, considered? no. tried it, didn't like it much [18:48] and booting debian just for graphical environment doesn't sound...practical :) [18:48] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.87.157.202) joined ##slackware. [18:49] well, there's always kde4 :> [18:49] run deb in a vm? [18:49] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "Leaving." [18:49] getting gnome to work good in slackware is do-able but with harddrives the size they are nowadays it makes good sense to keep a few ready made disk partitions to install a second or third OS/distro [18:50] bleah, who wants to dual boot or run VMs for regular daily use? [18:50] so from my perspective it is easier to dual/multiboot OSs [18:50] (for testing, or if one of the OSes is only needed very occasionally, it makes sense) [18:51] van__ (n=van@adsl63-77.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:51] i would stick with slackware for most stuff, just boot up debian when i need a gnome specific app [18:51] yuck [18:51] I mean it's your choice, I'd go insane trying to use a setup like that [18:51] thrice`, i'll take a look some day. believe it or not, i didn't see it in action yet [18:52] i have built the base gnome libs for the gnome stuff i need under kde4 though [18:52] works for me \o/ [18:52] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.245) joined ##slackware. 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[19:00] i almost want to rebuild kde4 from -current with debug symbols so i can help [19:00] nullboy: sure; I was just reading it as you popped the question in, so I thought why not :) good news indeed, I'd say [19:01] btw, to all you Canadians in here...you're all fscking crazy. [19:01] %) [19:01] ? [19:01] i was up in Edmonton for the past week [19:02] yes, yes we are. [19:02] nothing wrong with canadians. [19:02] bhodgins: i know, i am Canadian [19:02] but i live in California [19:02] sirukin (n=bryan@pdpc/supporter/active/sirukin) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:02] Holy crap I wish I didnt type /who [19:02] lol [19:02] lol [19:03] newyork|gen (n=newyork@80.145.223.67) left irc: "leaving" [19:03] sirk (n=bryan@d198-53-57-208.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:03] sirukin (n=bryan@pdpc/supporter/active/sirukin) joined ##slackware. [19:03] that's some brutal weather up there fellows. usually i travel up there in Autumn or Spring so it's been a very long time since i have seen that [19:04] cali boys don't get to walk on top of frozen rivers...ever. [19:04] heh [19:04] I live in Maine [19:04] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-74-225.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [19:05] dude! it was actualy 17 degrees here today, So I went without my jacket [19:05] lmao [19:05] my cousins just laugh at me [19:05] Its good to see spring is here [19:05] getting warm already [19:06] nullboy: did it start snowing before you left edmonton? [19:06] chopp: dropped ~4 inches on sunday [19:06] that was interesting [19:07] snow blowing across the roads, and i've never flown when they had to de-ice the jet ;) [19:08] really puts the SoCal weather into perspective for me [19:08] sh0ne_ (n=sh0ne@93.87.157.202) joined ##slackware. [19:08] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [19:08] heh [19:08] it was snowing yesterday [19:09] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) left irc: "... Leaving , was still at work..." [19:10] SlackLnx (n=caixa@85.139.11.250) joined ##slackware. [19:10] nullboy: haha, here all this time I thought you had driven up, and had put you in the "omg the dude puts in some crazy driving hours" category. [19:10] hahaha [19:10] hi :) [19:11] i think california has made me weak [19:11] nullboy: I have a buddy who is having some hard drive issues, and I wanted to ask your advice. [19:11] jkwood: ask away, what kind of issues? [19:12] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:12] He can't get Windows to install succesfully on it, and dban (I think dban) reports bad sectors. [19:12] do you know if dban completes any passes or does it just bail out? [19:12] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:13] k0nus (n=konus@ns1.noxis.org) left ##slackware. [19:14] cstextiles (n=chirag@59.184.29.92) joined ##slackware. [19:15] cstextiles (n=chirag@59.184.29.92) left ##slackware. [19:15] I think it just bails. [19:16] nullboy: don't know the laws for american citizens coming to canada, but us crossing into US territory starting soon (don't know the exact date) is going to require a valid passport. [19:17] jkwood: usually, if windows refuses to install and tools like dban just bail out it suggests that the first sector is bad [19:17] that's one sector that will take out the disk [19:18] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat074.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [19:18] chopp: yeah, US citizens are required to have passport now [19:18] Ah, okay. Can anything be done, or is it better to just return it? [19:18] jkwood: if it's under warranty i'd try to return it. [19:19] jkwood: it's not worth the hassle, if the disk won't even dban you're probably going to have massive issues very soon [19:19] nullboy: ok, just wanted to be sure you were aware of that for future travel. [19:19] K. I'll let him know. [19:20] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [19:20] Thanks =) [19:21] jkwood: you're welcome, too bad it's not something we can fix for him though [19:21] Yeah, it's all good. [19:22] He's actually getting some use out of Linux, which was how I started out. So, I consider it a win. [19:22] Action: andarius replaces it with the first sectore from nullboy [19:22] At least he didn't run into HPA like I did. [19:22] ZOMG... nullsectors! [19:22] nullsector ftw ! [19:23] i haz tem [19:24] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@93.87.157.202) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:25] chopp: i guess the way they're doing it up here is you need an id to get up there and a passport to get back lol [19:26] my mother is Canadian, she just needs her green card and CA passport [19:27] however for me, i'm a dually. i just need to make sure i use the same passport to come back as i used to leave [19:27] US/Ca citizen? [19:27] yep [19:28] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:28] just think if the canada, mexico & the usa merged in to the north american union? [19:28] oh god save us [19:28] we are already beyond the point of saving [19:29] we doomed [19:29] we're [19:29] Action: twolf gets a beer [19:29] lol [19:30] sQuEE (n=narya@host42.201-253-244.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:30] andarius: no we just have to sell cali to mexico and the new england states to canada, [19:30] might as well enjoy the good things in life while they are available :D [19:30] we could sell everything. wont help. to many idiots in charge [19:30] tough times in the future might make living a greuling task [19:31] country boy can survive. [19:31] XGizzmo_: i like it! [19:31] approved. [19:31] give it time and it wont matter where you live in the US [19:31] good idea XGizzmo! sell the blue states to canada & mexico, then the red states can kick their asses and take em back in a hundred years :) [19:32] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:33] sQuEE (n=narya@host53.201-252-31.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [19:36] mikk0 (n=mikk01@YMMDCXI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Connection timed out [19:37] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [19:38] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Client Quit [19:39] 'evening gents. [19:39] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:40] Hey, SpacePlod. =) [19:40] yht (i=1000@114.121.74.118) left irc: "I've to go" [19:40] good evening all (TZ dependant). [19:40] how goes it? [19:41] man...this connection is choppy. [19:41] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) left irc: "leaving" [19:41] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:41] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) joined ##slackware. [19:41] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) left ##slackware. [19:42] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) joined ##slackware. [19:42] damn...that was horrible. [19:42] http://hackaday.com/2009/03/23/bios-level-malware/ ouch! [19:42] nullboy: jkwood: either of you ever have occasion to use tableau equipment? [19:43] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] not me [19:43] Nope. [19:44] okay. I'm trying to get tableau parm to match output with hdparm and I was looking for a sanity check. [19:44] SlackLnx (n=caixa@85.139.11.250) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:45] cuba (n=cubicka@84.19.44.65) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [19:46] TheBig (n=TheBig@151.16.178.27) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:48] holdmypocket (n=choward@autodiscover.cusonet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:49] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-233-130.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:50] Pig_Pen: That sucks! [19:51] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-58-107.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:52] Can sata be converted to work with ide? [19:52] hiptobecubic, yes you can get a bridge but it gives a slight speed penalty. [19:53] slava_dp, speed doesn't matter really. i'm trying to drop a new drive in an old ipod. What's the bridge called and where can i look for it other than chinese ebayers, do you know? [19:54] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:55] hiptobecubic, the bridge is for pc's and surely won't fit into a player. it's usually a small curcuit board with ide on one end and sata on the other. [19:55] slava_dp, oh. hhmmm... sounds kind of hopeless [19:55] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [19:57] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-222-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] DoNoBaN (i=1000@77.208.190.225) left irc: "bye" [20:00] what i would like to see is motherboards having bios chips easily replaced with more user friendly chip sockets :D [20:00] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [20:00] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-430193.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:01] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [20:01] and chips everywhere, brick & mortar PC stores, online in the IT dept everywhere [20:02] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:03] not to mention having bios hardware programmers for sale alongside the chips [20:04] something that wipes the malware too along with flashing a known verified clean bios image [20:05] there has to be a way go get rid of the malware, if it can be put on there it can be taken off [20:06] there is the coreboot project. the free bios. [20:06] any good? [20:06] it was a little tongue-in-cheek, but I held off on flashing a newer non-bios firmware on my desktop because I was afraid I'd brick it and it's the only device I have using that processor. having spare bios chips and a hardware programmer at hand would make it a lot less risky to experiment with newer firmware releases [20:07] coreboot is still alpha but the mobo compatibility list is growing. [20:07] isnt support for motherboards limited at the coreboot project? [20:09] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:09] Nick change: tpollard_ -> tpollard [20:09] I'd like to experiment with coreboot on a spare motherboard some time and I really like the openness of the pmon2000 source code for my desktop [20:10] Action: Camarade_Tux read porn2000 instead of pmon2000... [20:10] Camarade_Tux, +1 [20:11] a free bios would be great. if they realy make it work some time. [20:11] mmmmm porn2000 [20:11] glad to see I'm not the only one ;p [20:11] porn2000 : pr0n in your mobo bios :p [20:12] why is it sometimes when i reboot my box i will get a dhcp timed out? i know my router is working fine .. any ideas? [20:12] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:12] better go to bed now, good night :) [20:12] rgouveia (n=rgouveia@169.89.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:12] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [20:13] launches mplayer in screen in .1 second for those quickies [20:13] take that grub, use /dev/null as my device map [20:13] muahaha [20:15] Action: slava_dp shrugs [20:17] woife (n=woife@chello080108097135.23.11.vie.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [20:17] fevel (n=fevel@189.32.157.67) joined ##slackware. [20:18] kde 4.2.1 sends lots and lots of spam into my /var/log/messages. usually about d-bus rejecting send messages. my log is unreadable. wtf? [20:18] You have a problem. [20:18] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-2-248.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:18] woife (n=woife@chello080108097135.23.11.vie.surfer.at) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [20:18] http://pastebin.com/m61970480 [20:19] Action: jkwood looks at rworkman [20:19] apart from the spam everything appears to be working as it should. [20:19] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:20] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-72-65-103-58.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [20:21] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:21] looks like unimportant log noise to me slava_dp [20:21] Pig_Pen, that noise was absent in kde 4.2.0. and it really clobbers the logs. [20:22] maybe run plasma --help and see if you can apend anything with something like --quiet [20:22] slava_dp: Did you nuke .kde ? [20:22] jkwood, yeah i did [20:23] Hmm... Well, that's not what's causing it, then. [20:23] ~/.kde [20:23] seems to be the best known way to try to make it work [20:23] sh0ne_ (n=sh0ne@93.87.157.202) left irc: "Leaving" [20:23] Yeah. I backed it up, nuked it, then merged back in my plasmarc and plasmawhateverthatotherthingwas, and that fixed 99% of my problems. [20:24] What about /tmp/kde* ? [20:24] also /var/tmp [20:24] ccfreak2k (n=ccfreak2@glasnost.us) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:25] lots of stuff in /var/tmp/kdecache-* [20:25] gonna try nuking it [20:26] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net expired. [20:26] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:26] brb [20:26] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:30] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] i only got a painfully slow kde startup after i deleted the cache. spam persists :) [20:31] kde? slow? /begin-window-manager battles :) [20:31] so never mind, i hope it's going to be fixed before slackware 13 arrives. not a big deal :) [20:31] The first time is always slow. [20:31] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] that's what she said [20:31] That's why that directory is called kdecache. [20:31] Old_Fogie, you woke up :) morning [20:32] heh [20:33] Slackware 13 should be released with a Black Cat on the cover, and a witch riding a broomstick in front of a full moon on the back [20:33] what annoys me more is that hplip does not start, telling me i don't have a system tray on this system. pitiful piece of software... [20:33] it does start if i launch it manually after kde started. [20:33] goes along with the 13 theme, release date Oct 31 2009 [20:34] it is just the old pagan harvest time [20:34] slava_dp, I'm not on 12.2, but iirc it's in /etc/xdg/autostart or something similar for the hp-systray icon [20:34] Pig_Pen, gr8 idea. i would order the dvd if that was true. [20:35] Where are upcoming release dates posted? [20:35] make a good collectors item or to display on the mantle or PC desk [20:35] slava_dp, for kde you gotta open it once, then save your session. or symlink to the binary if you want to ~/.kde/Autostart (or somethng like that) I dont use kde I forget the url [20:36] snowdonkey, what release dates? :) [20:36] heh [20:36] Well when a new version comes out there doesn't seem to be warning [20:36] read the changelog [20:38] Old_Fogie, found the .desktop that starts hplip in /etc/xdg/autostart. i wonder how to set a delay of say 15 seconds to let the kde system tray load before it. [20:39] does nobody else get the same error i get? [20:39] strange that is. [20:40] slava_dp, I'd say edit the desktop, put "sleep 15 hp-systray" or the like , on the exec= line [20:40] worth a shot at least [20:41] Or maybe add the hplip command to xinitrc after startkde is run [20:41] Or whatever your desktop is [20:42] will try that. brb. [20:42] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:44] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) joined ##slackware. [20:45] i just hate all of this :) gtg to bed asap [20:45] night everyone. thanks for the talk. [20:46] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:47] snowdonkey (n=snowdonk@c-98-227-222-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [20:48] ramstein (i=44919d80@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7f98b2fcc3407c7b) joined ##slackware. [20:48] ccfreak2k (i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [20:48] If/when slava_dp returns, point him to http://slackware.com/~rworkman/hal.conf.txt [20:48] ramstein (i=44919d80@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7f98b2fcc3407c7b) left ##slackware. [20:49] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [20:50] rworkman: hey =) [20:50] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-72-65-103-58.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [20:50] alright [20:50] gregday (n=gregday@25511435.ecsis.net) joined ##slackware. [20:51] acidchild: hey hey [20:51] what ya up to? [20:51] gregday (n=gregday@25511435.ecsis.net) left ##slackware. [20:52] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.154) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [20:53] acidchild: too busy with little piddly crap to do anything useful :/ [20:53] :( [20:54] i put the first of many WiFi towers up today =D [20:54] Nice! [20:54] tomorrow at 12 i'm putting up another one about 1KM away [20:55] rworkman: check that view out! :D [20:56] oh, sorry you on dial up still? thats a big ass picture :-( [20:58] Action: chopp waits for the link to "that big assed picture" :P [20:59] Action: dive too [20:59] Action: andarius too :( [21:00] acidchild: pics or it didn't happen [21:00] indeed [21:00] :> [21:00] http://dubstep.7a69.co.uk/~ash/wireless.jpg [21:01] shhh! hes gimping one up for us, let him concentrate [21:01] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008241120.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:01] although a video of you falling off a 50 foot wifi tower is also appropriate [21:01] ellow guys :D [21:01] hi k_wolf [21:01] Are any of you having problems with sbopkg? [21:01] dive: shutup ;-( [21:01] http://pastebin.com/m3bc93f26 [21:02] acidchild, sorry =( [21:02] acidchild: that is a fairly good sized ant your holding there [21:02] <_chess_> k_wolf: see my reply in #sbopkg -- are you using bash 4? [21:02] andarius: thats just the pole that its going on :-P [21:02] you said pole [21:02] umm, what about the real gear :P [21:02] i gotta go install linux on it. [21:02] so there is now a pic of you on the net holding some ones pole :o [21:03] I was kind of having visions of you up a tressled (is that a word?) tower in the middle of the wilderness [21:03] andarius: OH PLZ [21:03] Action: andarius was thinking he would see some AP gear :P [21:03] i have the biggest erection eva [21:03] andarius: tomorrow :-) [21:03] bahh :( [21:03] :\ [21:03] andarius: i got a 1W amp and directional antennas :P [21:03] but check that view out! [21:03] nice and sunny in TO [21:03] aye =) [21:03] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.46.41) joined ##slackware. [21:03] i have views similar :P [21:04] :> [21:04] where are you again? [21:04] but higher [21:04] ATL [21:04] Atlanta? right? [21:04] yup [21:04] <_chess_> k_wolf: I think bash 4 is the problem [21:04] i should come see ya then [21:04] i love skyscraper citys [21:04] sure [21:04] i have been on the tallest in town :) [21:04] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:04] Action: andarius looks for the images [21:05] i'm putting one on a 14 story building tomorrow =] [21:05] andarius: you're in Atlanta? Know anybody looking for a roommate? [21:05] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008241120.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:05] erizoe (n=kambee@ip72-209-59-92.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:05] (seriously, I just discovered I'll be homeless in 2 weeks if I don't figure something out) [21:05] Urchlay: if you are a hot female brunette i am [21:05] lol [21:05] otherwise sadly no [21:05] acidchild: I'd rather see the mountains or something in the background myself, but it's a nice pic anyway. [21:05] rofl. [21:05] chopp: :-] [21:06] it was a cool project of the day [21:06] and cost me 0$ to do [21:06] so i'm happy [21:06] including AP equipment too [21:06] which AP are you using? [21:06] home brew :> [21:06] 1W amp. [21:06] Nano-ITX mobo [21:07] water proof case... [21:07] nice [21:07] i was about to slap you with a trout if you were going to say a wrt54g [21:07] and i have some plate antennas and di-poles [21:07] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:07] lowl [21:07] no ;/ [21:07] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [21:08] acidchild: http://98.192.3.170:34224/~andarius/images/Suntrust/ [21:08] that is a view ;) [21:08] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [21:08] Forbidden!!!!!!!!!! [21:08] doh, stand by [21:08] You don't have permission to access /~andarius/images/Suntrust/IMG_2354.JPG on this server. [21:08] You don't have permission to access /~andarius/images/Suntrust/IMG_2338.JPG on this server [21:08] NO!!! [21:08] apache fail [21:08] nullboy: speaking of trout, no icefishing while you were in the great white north. [21:08] chown fail... [21:08] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:09] good now :P [21:09] sorry, was a fast move from my backup [21:09] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-71-204-116-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Reconnecting" [21:09] chopp: yeah not fishing this time. we usually go out into the knight inlet in vancouver for that [21:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwL0G9wK8j4 i wonder what IBM's going to do when it gets Sun? [21:09] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-71-204-116-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] andarius: thats cute =] [21:10] andarius: mmm i wana come see it :> [21:10] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:10] is that your rack andarius ? [21:11] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [21:11] no, we gave the gear to a local dealer for demoing the system and providing the space/tower [21:11] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [21:11] evening folks :-) [21:11] gave? [21:11] i personaly wouldnt claim that rats nest for my life [21:11] to a dealer? [21:11] yes, gave [21:11] yes [21:11] Action: acidchild confused. [21:11] about 30k$ in gear [21:11] whats it do? [21:11] my employer gave i should say [21:12] drug dealer? [21:12] LMR trunking [21:12] LMR? [21:12] here ya go [21:12] nullboy: check slashdot nao! OpenWRT/DD-WRT are being exploited enmass in the wild [21:12] high end two way radio [21:12] http://img145.echo.cx/img145/9760/empirebulb6rd.jpg [21:12] durh [21:12] what does the L stand for? [21:12] PMR (personal mobile radio) [21:12] macavity: i've always known it to be a total sieve [21:12] Land Mobile Radio [21:13] ahhh [21:13] bbs going to get toys [21:13] =] [21:13] sieve? [21:13] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:13] a strainer [21:13] like a screen door [21:13] the kitchen apparatus to seperate matter from liquid? [21:14] macavity: bingo [21:14] roger [21:14] macavity: "any linux mipsel routing device that has the router administration interface or sshd or telnetd in a DMZ, which has weak username/passwords (including openwrt/dd-wrt devices)." [21:14] lmao [21:14] wtf do they expect? [21:15] odd.. i though the entire *point* of wishing to run *WRT was to get some sort of controll over the security [21:15] macavity: it was more about functionality [21:15] there have been massive holes in the firewall scripts quite often [21:15] I have to jump through hoops in windows to even get telnetd working on my router... [21:15] O_O [21:15] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.46.41) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:16] syph (i=1000@24.96.132.100) joined ##slackware. [21:16] macavity: thanks for that heads up though, pretty interesting [21:17] nullboy: so basically, if i am unhappy with the propietary firmware, i better figure out how to cram NetBSD onto it? [21:17] macavity: that, or build your own sane images and use good practices [21:17] i don't even password auth [21:17] o0 [21:17] key? [21:17] yeah [21:17] Key is a good idea. [21:18] i never password auth with any of my systems over the network [21:18] yeah I do that between my boxen here [21:18] And running telnet on your router at all is a Bad Idea (TM). [21:18] telnet? eh? [21:18] yeah to be honest I didn't see the point anyway [21:18] who did that crazy stuff? [21:18] nullboy: why "mipsel" in particular? [21:18] telnet is bad in the first place...let alone in a DMZ. wtf is *that* [21:18] macavity: each arch target has different scripts [21:19] so between the build targets there is a large variation of potential holes [21:19] at the very least, you should try to stick with ssh [21:19] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:19] is there a kdebluetooth4 for slackware -current? [21:19] macavity: even so though, you can see in the article that that most of the issues mentioned are centered on poor practices though [21:20] cuba (n=cubicka@84.19.44.65) joined ##slackware. [21:20] psyb0t has been around for a while hasn't it? [21:20] it's a weak password worm i thought [21:21] i've seen it before in the wild, tuned up for weak sshd passwords [21:22] (or at least some variant) [21:22] there was shv5 too [21:23] someone here who's bored & have a fast internet connection want to do me a favor? [21:23] lol [21:23] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.145.117) left irc: "leaving" [21:23] Urchlay: that sounds sooo sketchy [21:23] nullboy: still reading.. remember that networking is not my speciality, so i have to check quite a bit on wikipedia when reading this sort of thing [21:23] i've been lucky to work in education, 'cause i don't have to worry about those problems too often... [21:24] nullboy, what did you get macavity paranoid about =p [21:24] seriously, want someone other than me to download these 2 files and md5sum them. They're supposed to be the same file from 2 different sourceforge mirrors, but they're coming up different [21:24] macavity: ah, well this particular group of nasties are really simple [21:24] http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sc2/uqm-0.6.0-voice.uqm and http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sc2/uqm-0.6.0-voice.uqm [21:24] (each one takes me half an hour to download due to crappy wireless connection...) [21:25] 110mb [21:26] yeah. md5sum though? [21:26] on the fiber line here, says 2 min [21:26] lucky you, i'm still at work... [21:26] danke [21:27] if I were allowed to run wires thru the walls here, it wouldn't be a problem [21:27] nullboy: would it suffice to only allow the modem to forward ssh/http trafic if it originates from the WAN port? [21:27] (apartments suck) [21:27] in my apt, i just run it along the walls =p [21:27] roommates won't allow that [21:27] _ohm (n=mark@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [21:27] (one of 'em is a girl, no arguing with a girl about what looks tacky & what doesn't) [21:27] great part of living by yourself... i make all the rules ;) [21:28] yah. You pay all the bills too... can't afford it right now or I would :( [21:28] nullboy: eg, i would have to ssh into my home server, and then ssh into the modem from there? [21:29] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:29] ugh, the voxel mirror sucks ass [21:29] macavity: so far it seems to me like using proper DMZ practices along with no telnet and sshd auth via keys will fix it [21:29] only 100k/s [21:29] the truly irritating thing here is the wireless is crapping out, I ssh from one box on my wireless lan to the other, and I press Enter, and it takes 5-10 seconds for it to echo the newline back to me [21:29] i was getting ~980 from easynews [21:29] personally, i don't see why an sshd with weak password in a DMZ is sane in the first place [21:29] yet both sides show 0 packets dropped, 0 errors [21:30] [tessai@tessai:~/hd2/stuff/tmp/t1 #]> md5sum uqm-0.6.0-voice.uqm [21:30] d31577b896be935cc2238afd07299b8b uqm-0.6.0-voice.uqm [21:30] that's from easynews [21:30] yeah, that's what I get from easynews too [21:30] voxel is probably still downloading [21:31] probably my ass... 18 min :( [21:31] what was the md5 from voxel? [21:32] nullboy: yes.. but if sshd cant be acsessed from the internet side, does it really matter? [21:32] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.145.117) joined ##slackware. [21:32] macavity: right [21:32] i cant spell "axe-essed" [21:32] accessed? =p [21:32] accessed [21:32] unfortunately any time I try to hit just plain downloads.sourceforge.net, some uber-clever auto-geo-IP crap keeps deciding to redirect me to voxel [21:32] 29c23323dba68bb6ddb29d523528e7a4 [21:32] file length is the same [21:32] Channel flood from Urchlay -- kicking [21:32] and "unzip -l" shows the same results for both files (they're just zip files with weird names) [21:32] Urchlay kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [21:32] \o/ [21:32] thx [21:33] so where's the problem? [21:33] lol [21:33] macavity: they have a point in the article but i won't worry too much until there is some real remote exploit [21:33] linky nullboy [21:33] http://dronebl.org/blog/8 [21:34] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-71-204-116-41.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] look into the shv5 kit [21:35] it's an oldy [21:35] gods. I didn't flood, I got lagged, and everything I said must have come thru all at once [21:35] lag flood, what a concept ;) [21:35] Urchlay: slackboy luuubs laggy users ;-) [21:35] macavity Necos http://blog.gnist.org/article.php?story=HollidayCracking [21:36] frigging retarded wireless piece of consumer-grade crap, plus the guy it belongs to can't be bothered to care how it works [21:36] that's the same sort of concept [21:36] Urchlay: double trouble [21:36] lol [21:36] he's a mac user, his answer is "it just works for me" [21:37] (well, unless it doesn't work, in which case it's "well, I didn't need to do $whatever anyway..." [21:37] denial aint just a river in egypt ;) [21:38] lol [21:38] screw it anyway. He got a job out of state, 2 weeks from now he's moving to tennesee and I'll never see him again [21:39] hm. OK, voxel download done, now it matches the d31577b896be935cc2238afd07299b8b I got from easynews [21:39] but, two hours ago, both mirrors were giving me 53abc8b500d0b1f46884d5b6cdd377fd for the same file [21:40] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat074.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit." [21:41] wow, this is awesome lol [21:41] wtf! I just booted 2.6.29 and the bootlogo looks like well hard to describe, maybe gangsta tux with a beak? [21:41] hahahahaha [21:41] Necos: that article? [21:41] well it means my slackbuild I just submitted to slackbuilds.org will get rejected due to wrong md5sum [21:42] yeah, it doesn't say how shv5 got root on his box... i'm guessing it was a weak remote access password [21:42] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-97.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:42] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:42] Necos: brutally simple but effective, yes it was a flaw in something like sqld or wordpress IIRC [21:42] anyone want to buy a used car or know how to sell one? I used craigslist, and I keep getting fake checks sent to me...scams [21:43] park it out front and put a sign in the window [21:43] i did that [21:44] trade it in [21:44] torch it for the insurance money then [21:44] thats a good idea [21:44] glad to help [21:44] that's the dumbest idea ever [21:44] there is a parking ban on my street from 12a-6a so I will put it out tomorrow [21:44] "Very private, so don't distribute" warning on a rootkit? [21:44] isn't distributing the only thing you really ever do with a rootkit? [21:45] lol [21:45] Urchlay : it means it was released internally within a group [21:45] Urchlay : and no, you don't want rootkits to be distributed [21:45] nullboy: good reading :-) [21:45] yeah, and whoever it was released to, promptly distributed it to the guy in the article [21:45] that takes away from its effectiveness [21:46] lol [21:46] the more people know about it, the easier it is to defend against [21:46] Necos : exactly [21:46] (I mean it's a shell script, if you crack someone's box and install it on there, you're distributing it to that person... maybe against their will, but end result is, they have a copy of it) [21:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] Urchlay : that's not distribution [21:47] that's propagation [21:47] i'll be if I am paying for spam text message to my phone [21:47] eh, well, if you give me a copy of your script, you have distributed it to me... I might (after cleaning up the mess) decide to use it myself, if I were of a black-hattish persuasion [21:47] along with a nast call I will be giving a company, that prolly isn't the cause of the email but it is from their domain [21:48] Urchlay : it's a question of scale [21:48] Urchlay: if you got hit with it and had to clean it up, you'd probably destroy it in the process [21:48] Urchlay : what you're talking about is mere propagation, not a mass spreading, as implied by the word 'distribute' [21:48] bono (i=bono@114-45-224-90.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [21:48] if they wanted to be more sneaky, they should have used a compiled language, preferably compiled by a compiler than can encrypt/compress the object code so simple signature scans won't recognize it... [21:49] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [21:49] hmmm, speaking of cars, is there any other service that does car history checks, other than carfax or autocheck? [21:49] well wtf. Re-downloaded same file from easynews, and got a *completely* different md5sum [21:49] not really... [21:50] risperidon (n=risperid@189.77.60.158) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:50] i downloaded both and got the same md5sum Urchlay [21:50] so it's definitely your connection [21:50] it can't be though [21:50] Action: ananke is looking to buy a car, need to start looking at some vins [21:51] I mean, if my connection is screwed up, the IP checksums would fail, and I wouldn't get the file at all [21:51] [tessai@tessai:~/hd2/stuff/tmp/t2 #]> md5sum uqm-0.6.0-voice.uqm [21:51] d31577b896be935cc2238afd07299b8b uqm-0.6.0-voice.uqm [21:51] wget http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sc2/uqm-0.6.0-voice.uqm <---- just for reference [21:52] hrm. not voxel.downloads.sourceforge.net... [21:52] heh. And I get 2 different IP addresses [21:52] Urchlay: maybe you're the victim of mitm [21:52] :O [21:53] DAMN YOU EVE! [21:53] lol [21:53] Urchlay got pwnd by the router worm [21:53] ;) [21:53] a man in the middle going to this much trouble just to mess up my crappy old game from the 1980s? [21:53] hahahahaha [21:53] mitm = man in the mirror [21:54] Michael Jackson is watching you!1 [21:54] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:54] I'm looking at the man in the mirror.... [21:54] oh gods [21:54] what a completely rotten song, even for that guy... [21:54] hey you got me started. [21:55] I memorized that song when I was young. [21:55] I actually kinda like "thriller" and "beat it" (one has vincent price and the other has eddie van halen) [21:55] Thriller is freaking awesome. [21:55] (Vincent Price)++ [21:56] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [21:56] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.60.116) joined ##slackware. [21:57] OK. So I have downloaded this file from 4 different mirrors and gotten 4 different md5sums [21:57] Action: macavity puts on his Thriller cassette.. and powers on the C64 [21:57] time to do some BASIC! [21:57] t3h_hevz (n=mrbig@63.214.229.58) joined ##slackware. [21:57] hey, the Atari 800, you could play audio from the cassette recorder through the TV speaker while doing BASIC :) [21:57] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Client Quit [21:57] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [21:58] Urchlay: Are you sure someone didn't replace your md5sum binary with something that just spits out random stuff? is someone pranking you? [21:58] that's somehting I might do to someone [21:58] Well, I'd do it and then leave the vicinity. [21:58] don't think so... if I md5sum the same copy of the file, I get the same sum [21:59] it's just that all 4 copies have different sums from each other [21:59] i'm tellin you Urchlay, your GW is ass =p [21:59] it ain't mine [21:59] http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/ubuntu.jpg ;) [21:59] What file and how big is it? [21:59] if it were, it wouldn't be a piece of dinky plastic crap [22:00] godling: wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/sc2/uqm-0.6.0-voice.uqm (it's 110M) [22:00] van__ (n=van@adsl63-77.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:00] danc3: <3 [22:00] oh, that's too big for me to put up on my freeshell account [22:00] but try wgetting it from various sourceforge mirrors, and see if the files match [22:00] s/on/via/ [22:00] BTW, cmp and diff also say the files differ [22:01] I've had varying luck with different sf dl servers. [22:02] well, I've had varying luck in the sense that some of them are slow, or don't respond at all [22:02] But the biggest thing I've noticed was not a disparity between file integrity, rather a lack in bandwidth between them. [22:02] Urchlay: well, like i said, i got both files from those two mirrors, and got the same md5sum... [22:02] but I've never noticed them being out of sync like this [22:03] Necos: yeah... but voxel.dl.sourceforge.net and voxel.downloads.sourceforge.net do not resolve to the same IP address... [22:03] (you used .dl. and I used .downloads., so we didn't both try the same thing...) [22:03] i pasted it exactly as you typed in earlier [22:03] danc3: that image should be named "Ubuntu Spooners" [22:03] when you asked about it [22:04] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-68-63.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] nullboy: heh, yeah that would be a better name [22:04] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [22:05] yeah... I dunno what's going on here, they've got some bizarre redirections going on [22:05] Does a wg311v3 work with Slackware 12.2? [22:05] (Netgear) [22:05] wtf is that? [22:05] wireless card? [22:05] yes [22:05] wg311v3? I guess that would work, if you set it as your root password [22:05] lol [22:06] usr13: generally you need to tell us what chip is on a device [22:06] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [22:06] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:06] have you tried: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/success-netgear-wg311v3-400257/ [22:06] Ok, does anyone here have any esperience getting a wg311v3 to work with Slackware? [22:07] what chip is on it, and i can tell you right off the bat what you need to do... [22:07] macavity: I don't know what chip is on the device, your guess is as good as mine. [22:07] if you read the webpage, you'd know the answer usr13 [22:07] however, Necos seems to have found your answer [22:07] usr13: do your home work ;-) [22:08] _ohm (n=mark@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: Client Quit [22:08] BP{k}: what was that twitter adaptor for irssi you used? [22:09] erizoe (n=kambee@ip72-209-59-92.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:09] and if you want to know more about how to deal with ndiswrapper, you can look here: [22:09] http://web.archive.org/web/20071112023941/http://www.jimbo7.com/wiki/index.php?title=WG311v3_LINUX_WIKI [22:09] ndiswrapper... that just sucks :P [22:09] the wayback machine > * [22:09] well, if no linux drivers are available ;) [22:10] Kaapa: was it this? http://projects.friocorte.com/twitter-irssi/ [22:10] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [22:10] then someone need to start writing Marvel some heavy nastygrams with "we can has either Free driver or technical specs? kkthxbai!" [22:10] lol [22:11] ... repeatedly untill they comply [22:11] or until they stop listening to people entirely [22:11] which is essentially what they do now... [22:11] with a mail rate of X^2 where the xaxis is measured in weeks [22:11] lee555J5: dunno, I googled a few [22:12] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] that would be weeks^2 mails/hour naturally [22:12] economies of scale... that's the down-side: they (any fairly large company) can afford to just ignore the "weirdos" that want hardware specs, it doesn't cost them anything [22:12] as if we speak macavity [22:15] wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/sc2/uqm-0.6.0-voice.uqm [22:15] [tessai@tessai:~/hd2/stuff/tmp/t3 #]> md5sum uqm-0.6.0-voice.uqm [22:15] d31577b896be935cc2238afd07299b8b uqm-0.6.0-voice.uqm [22:15] Urchlay: true... but sometimes they eventually get the idea that playing nice *may* messurable on the income.. and providing a poorly written intended-for-internal-use-only document for download in some obscure corner of the web doesnt cost that much either [22:16] so Urchlay, i dunno what to tell ya man... [22:17] tntslack (n=will@adsl138-110.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:18] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:19] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.145.117) left irc: "leaving" [22:19] the trouble is, the guys who have the knowledge, who *could* release the specs... aren't the ones you deal with as a customer [22:19] Urchlay: I get the correct md5 as well [22:19] heviarti (n=mrbig@63.214.229.41) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:19] Urchlay has botchy internet =p [22:20] godling: from voxel and easynews, or did you try others? [22:20] voxel [22:20] but i got the same md5 from both easynews and voxel... >.> [22:20] and then the voxel gave me the same md5 twice... [22:21] Necos: eh, I seriously doubt that. What are the odds of the TCP (and IP) checksum algorithms failing in such a way that bad packets are not only not detected, but I get 4 different sets of them, all of which aren't detected by the checksums? [22:21] Urchlay: could be fucked up RAM too [22:21] if I had fucked up RAM I'd know it [22:21] I'm just saying [22:21] (compiles would fail, for instance) [22:21] random stuff would segfault... I've dealt with bad RAM before [22:22] koolniczka (n=nobody@unaffiliated/koolniczka) left irc: "Leaving." [22:22] also, this is on 2 different machines [22:22] do you have a different switch you can try? [22:22] no [22:23] anyway this one has been working for weeks [22:23] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:23] doesn't mean it didn't stop working [22:23] and if I were somehow getting mangled downloads that slip past multiple layers of checksumming, wouldn't my IRC session, and web pages, etc. be fucked-up looking too? [22:23] how does one get the complete list of servers in a DNS round robin load balance record? [22:23] macavity: nslookup will give them to you [22:23] you have a way to connect to some wlan somewhere? [22:24] Urchlay: maybe, but I don't know. strange things have happened. [22:24] I have no way to connect to a different wlan than the one I'm already on, no [22:24] Urchlay: ah, i used dig [22:24] dig is generally better than nslookup, except for that one specific purpose... [22:24] I remember reading about nforce mobos having integrated firewalls that corrupted downloads [22:24] ouch [22:24] this isn't an nforce mobo [22:25] (stupid idea to have mobo-integrated firewall, if you ask me) [22:25] yes [22:25] also, it's a zip file... which has its own checksum algo... all 4 of the different files unzip just fine [22:25] the only thing nVidia generally gets right is "lets make something that handles 3D fast"... from there it is just downhill [22:25] ... and pretty fast imho [22:25] Bah, Nvidia works well in Linux. [22:26] And their Linux drivers are usually better and more stable than what ATI has to offer... [22:26] I bought an Nvidia just to get away from the hell that was ATI/Linux :) [22:26] Urchlay: I don't know what to tell you. If the issue is not your machine and not sf.net then the only other option would be that it's something in your connection [22:26] hang on a sec. unzip does see bad CRC for a couple of the files, they just got lost in the giant list [22:27] Thurin1: their propietary gfx drivers generally "work"... but you will not belive the amount of trouble ive had with nForce based mobos.... [22:27] macavity, Well that I cannot comment on, I've never had one :( [22:27] well I can't imagine any failure mode that would cause this, that wouldn't cause *any* other problems at all [22:27] Thurin1: Generally, but I've had issues with Nvidia and X in the past. [22:28] Joker_-_ (n=joker@64.235.198.63) got netsplit. [22:28] tavl (n=tavl@itautecnet.cin.ufpe.br) got netsplit. [22:28] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) got netsplit. [22:28] DeeeeP (i=1003@81.193.100.177) got netsplit. [22:28] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) got netsplit. [22:28] losesome (n=losesome@74.93.79.3) got netsplit. [22:28] tewmten (i=tew@gaskammare.se) got netsplit. [22:28] maxote (n=el_ermit@84.79.67.254) got netsplit. [22:28] acidchild (i=ash@dubstep.7a69.co.uk) got netsplit. [22:28] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) got netsplit. [22:28] _chess_ (n=chess@unaffiliated/chess/x-7295101) got netsplit. [22:28] I guess I should tell what the mission is; Need to find a good wireless card for Slackware 12.2 Any suggestions? [22:28] usr13: what form factor? [22:28] without a completely clean test Urchlay, you really can't say >.> [22:28] Joker_-_ (n=joker@64.235.198.63) returned to ##slackware. [22:28] tavl (n=tavl@itautecnet.cin.ufpe.br) returned to ##slackware. [22:28] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) returned to ##slackware. [22:28] DeeeeP (i=1003@81.193.100.177) returned to ##slackware. [22:28] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [22:28] _chess_ (n=chess@unaffiliated/chess/x-7295101) returned to ##slackware. [22:28] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) returned to ##slackware. [22:28] acidchild (i=ash@dubstep.7a69.co.uk) returned to ##slackware. [22:28] maxote (n=el_ermit@84.79.67.254) returned to ##slackware. [22:28] losesome (n=losesome@74.93.79.3) returned to ##slackware. [22:28] tewmten (i=tew@gaskammare.se) returned to ##slackware. [22:28] eh, what, I have to buy all new equipment? [22:28] godling, I have had nothing but good experiences, so far... [22:28] Thurin1: you dont want one either... better keep the chipset Intel if you want things to Just Work [22:29] i meant w/o a clean net connection to test [22:29] ATI was just bad - all around BAD. [22:29] this is the same net connection I've been using for months [22:29] Yep, Intel ftw,. [22:29] and *nothing else* has screwed up [22:29] hmmm... my X1950 is chugging away quite happily [22:29] I really need to figure out a way to get Nprotect game guard to work with Wine.. there must be a way ... [22:30] Thurin1: I couldn't use the X.org-provided nv driver with GLX, for instance, but when I switched to the NVidia driver it wouldn't play well with my monitor and was unstable (X would usually freeze and I'd have to hard-reset). [22:30] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R580 [Radeon X1900] [22:30] the HD4350 in the kids machine works nicely too... pretty fast with the Free driver [22:30] i just compiled 1.2.4 last friday [22:30] Urchlay: So what do you think the problem is, then? [22:31] godling, eee well that's not good. [22:31] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@121.246.70.71) left irc: "Leaving" [22:31] The only thing I don't like about the Nvidia driver is that it lists my refresh rates wrong - instead of 75/60/85/100 etc -- it lists them as 50/51/52 [22:31] Thurin1: and for those of us who refuse to run propietary software nVidia is obviously out of the question [22:31] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-58-107.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [22:32] macavity: Well, that's not really NVidia's fault. [22:32] *Nvidia [22:32] macavity, I try to keep away from most of it - but so far I cannot find one open source hardware driver (video cards) [22:32] Thurin1: at least for the time being... the Gallium3D port of Nouveau is getting somewhere from what i hear [22:32] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:32] Not bad [22:32] now, if I were getting different-sized files, I'd expect a broken web server config (wrong mime-type, so \n is getting replaced with \r\n) [22:33] Thurin1: the newer Intel ones are not that bad.. unless you need them for "real" gaming [22:33] godling: I don't yet know what the problem is. I know what I don't think it is... currently eliminating possibilities [22:33] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.145.117) joined ##slackware. [22:34] I have an Intel GMA X3100 in this machine. [22:34] macavity, Well that's it - I'm dealing with a lot of wine testing etc --- so I need the best video/3d possible so I can post accurate results [22:34] It works fine [22:34] I was getting respectable fps in Nexuiz [22:34] Of course some of the video effects were off [22:35] Thurin1: good news for you then.. the Mesa guys are planning/hacking on a DirectX implementation for Gallium3D :P [22:35] Thurin1: i bet the wine people will like that.. that way they dont have to bash on on that DX->OpenGL implementation any more [22:35] damn, i'm lovin this fiber upgrade... 1mb/s from www.kernel.org [22:36] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] hahaha [22:36] Necos: That's not very fast [22:37] I've gotten DirectX to work in Wine [22:37] It does work for some things [22:37] Or at least the program 'thinks' it's working [22:37] considering the speed i used to get... it's amazing =p [22:37] 30-40k/s [22:38] Necos: You need fiber to get those speeds? Where do you live? [22:38] and this is just a highschool =p [22:38] los angeles, btw [22:39] Oh [22:39] Well, that's nothing to brag about. ;P [22:39] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.56.158.138) joined ##slackware. [22:39] I would expect a highschool to have a fatter pipe anyways. [22:39] xdan779 (n=daniel@64-233-207-75.static.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [22:40] Surprised it doesn't, actually. [22:40] Are you using some machine in a lab? Maybe the admins capped it. [22:40] depends on the school & district [22:40] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:41] Not really. [22:41] did some work for a public school system where each school was being funnelled through a dialup [22:41] As far as my expecting af at pipe, at least. [22:42] It's Los Angeles, not bumfuck, Namibia. [22:42] honestly I'm impressed that a crappy US public school even has internet at all, some of them can't afford enough textbooks for all the kids [22:42] Atlanta isn't exactly bumfuck.... [22:42] (heh, downtown atlanta, I wouldn't go near a high school. Good places to get knifed...) [22:43] lol [22:43] so this is how we know we are in a civiliced area.... if the odds of getting killed for no apparent reason is medium to high :P [22:43] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:43] actually LAUSD has all of it's internet connections funneled thru it's main office [22:43] I don't visit the old Confederacy, Urchlay. [22:43] and that's a _LOT_ of schools [22:44] confederacy? what century are you living in? (my grandma's the same way, only she's on the other side from you...) [22:44] remember, thanks to the filtering of NCLB... we have to sit behind a firewall [22:45] Urchlay: The Nazis changed their name, but they still wear jackboots. ;P [22:45] I'm in Southern California, that's far enough South for me. :) [22:45] =p [22:45] if you worked for LAUSD, you'd feel my pain [22:45] I try not to work with teenagers. [22:46] Well, it's bad enough I tutor them. [22:46] the only nazis a [22:46] lol [22:46] er, the only "nazis" I know are skinheads who have never even been to germany [22:46] brb [22:47] dumbasses, the lot of 'em [22:47] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] and yeah, I avoid teenagers, I remember what I was like at that age... [22:48] Urchlay: Technology's made it worse. [22:48] I believe it [22:48] cuba (n=cubicka@84.19.44.65) left irc: "Leaving" [22:49] if I'd been born with a cel phone sticking out of my ear, I'd be even more antisocial than I already am [22:49] Action: godling waves his cane [22:49] get off my lawn, ya whippersnappers! [22:51] godling: "get off my lawn!" :P [22:52] macavity: awesome movie [22:52] dhabyx_ (n=dhabyx@190.148.92.225) joined ##slackware. [22:52] AWR (n=susej@babylonsystems.com) joined ##slackware. [22:53] yo [22:53] da [22:53] so i got the portmapper running the nfs kernel module is loaded [22:53] but when i goto mount and nfs export i get "mount: RPC: Program not registere" [22:53] macavity: I met him once. [22:54] godling: what movie? [22:54] macavity: It was on a cold, stormy night in Dagobah. [22:55] Action: macavity haz teh confus [22:56] hm. easynews is saying 'Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1' for that file, and voxel says 'Content-Type: application/octet-stream' [22:56] Nick change: dhabyx_ -> dhabyx2 [22:57] ever accidentally transfer a binary file in ascii mode, with ftp? Not sure whether it applies quite the same way to HTTP, but... [22:57] Urchlay, yes [22:57] Urchlay: Did you download it via voxel? [22:57] both [22:57] and got different md5sums [22:58] (same length in bytes though, with ftp the file size will be wrong too) [22:58] But what I want to know is are their any problems up/downloading ascii files in binary? [22:58] Was the md5sum you got from the voxel download the correct md5sum according to the website? [22:58] the website doesn't *give* the correct md5sum [22:58] yes it does [22:58] does it? I didn't see it... [22:59] It's next to the download link [22:59] :P [22:59] argh. You win again, small fonts... [22:59] http://sc2.sourceforge.net/downloads.php [22:59] I looked *right at* it, and didn't see it [23:00] happens [23:00] (to be honest it's been a couple hours since I looked at the actual site anyway, I've been using wget) [23:00] hello :> [23:00] morning [23:01] so Necos was getting the right md5sum from both mirrors [23:01] and I'm getting the right one from one mirror, but now I can't tell which [23:01] ...somehow though I've got one right sum and *three* wrong ones [23:01] dive: now i have the equipment to put on the tower sorted =) [23:01] ready for NetBSDing [23:01] nice :-) [23:01] It's typically best to attack a problem using the given API instead of accessing internal methods. ;P [23:01] 1W amp, 5mw AP 2.4/5Ghz, NanoITX mobo [23:02] 2GB SSD HD [23:02] well I was using HTTP... [23:02] =D [23:02] sounds good to me [23:02] uh huh [23:02] ;P [23:02] which is how people are going to want to download it, when they actually run my slackbuild [23:02] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [23:03] but it's 3am again - I guess I'd better make some effort to sleep... [23:03] AWR (n=susej@babylonsystems.com) left ##slackware. [23:03] see you all in one hour I spect [23:03] (don't you just wget the DOWNLOAD= address in the .info file, when using SBo scripts?) [23:03] Nick change: dhabyx2 -> slackdhabyx [23:04] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:04] It makes sense that EasyNews is configured for text/plain, though. If you think about it. [23:04] presumably the touble comes from the filename ending in .uqm [23:04] er, the trouble, too [23:04] Urchlay: You might make a mental note to prefer voxel in the future [23:05] vatgas (n=val@123.145.45.220) joined ##slackware. [23:05] voxel is painfully slow for me though [23:05] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:05] I think there are some that were blazing fast for me [23:05] easynews apparently works like I type... blazing fast but totally inaccurate [23:05] I want to say internap.dl.sf.net but don't quote me [23:05] but... 99% of the time, I'm pasting a link that just says http://downloads.sourceforge.net/whatever [23:06] Nick change: slackdhabyx -> dhabyx [23:06] with wget, I pretty much always get voxel (used to always get telia) [23:06] I don't know if the guys at sourceforge would have a problem with linking to a particular mirror [23:06] It might be in a FAQ. [23:07] anyways, I smell funny and need a shower. [23:07] lostin (n=austinpe@adsl-222-70-94.jan.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] more likely, if they're serious about what they do, I should report the misconfigured mirror [23:07] never hurts to help [23:07] (sending the wrong content-type because of the filename "extension" is a boneheaded CP/M-era error) [23:07] (yeah right) [23:08] i just installed my first linux os i chose slackware, everything loaded up fine but wireless.. i downloaded wicd hoping it would fix my issue but i'm having issues installing it [23:09] lostin: What version of Slackware? [23:09] i tried comman tar -zxvf package.tar with no luck [23:09] did you download the slackware package ? [23:09] 12.2 [23:09] yes [23:09] Erm... that's not how it works. [23:09] full package [23:09] installpkg package.tgz [23:09] installpkg is the command you're after [23:09] am about half tempted to add voxel's IP with easynews hostname to my /etc/hosts... [23:09] Also, http://slackbook.org [23:10] ok so in my terminal emulator that's the command? i don't have to tell it where it's located such as installpkg system:\desktop\package.tar? [23:11] In that case, installpkg ~/Desktop/package.tgz [23:11] thank you jkwood i will also read up on that link [23:11] No problem. [23:12] and thanks for that command i will go try now since it's a dual boot i have to restart.. hope that works, i'll be back hopefully on linux though ha ha [23:12] lucasagomes (n=lucasgom@189-47-249-246.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:13] _Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.46.41) joined ##slackware. [23:14] lostin (n=austinpe@adsl-222-70-94.jan.bellsouth.net) left irc: [23:14] MrBIG`` (n=mrbig@63.214.229.58) joined ##slackware. [23:14] arcaos_ (n=chatzill@190.177.146.136) joined ##slackware. [23:14] spymod (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. 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[23:26] like the ones that actually use activex controls [23:27] (very rarely do I need anything like that though, which is why I haven't bothered upgrading) [23:28] slack_guy22 (n=slack-pe@c-98-224-175-68.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:28] also theoretically I have IE so I can test web sites in it when developing them... but am too lazy to actually do it (instead one of the other guys I work with will go "Hey, this page looks screwed up!") [23:28] whoops, did I say that out loud? [23:29] syph__ (i=1000@24.96.132.100) joined ##slackware. [23:29] MLanden1 (n=mello@pool-162-84-117-17.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:30] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.46.41) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:31] welp, 2.6.29 went stable...time to try the new nl80211 master mode [23:31] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:31] MLanden (n=mello@pool-162-84-117-17.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:31] man.. they are releasing kernel versions like crack anymoer [23:31] nullboy: Heh, i was just reading about that on /. [23:31] arcaos (n=chatzill@190.177.146.136) left irc: Connection timed out [23:31] supposedly it's enabled throughout the kernel now so i *should* just have to get the latest hostapd, crda, and friends [23:32] eh? new versions of crack are being released? crack 2.0? I was not informed! [23:32] and leenuchs should be able to do master mode! [23:32] have the crack devs come up with a patch that fixes the bug that occasionally gives the user a heart attack? [23:33] it's nuke [23:33] got any nuke? [23:33] no... crack is open source, what license is nuke? [23:34] (never really thought about that but I guess crack really *is* open source) [23:34] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:34] you think "Free as in crack, not as in beer" would make a better slogan? [23:35] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] Thurin1 (n=amunra@modemcable014.162-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:38] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:38] lostin (n=austinpe@adsl-222-70-94.jan.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:42] it was mtr I believe [23:42] Thanks [23:43] I'm curious, I use dwm for my WM, why is it so popular (especially amongst slackware and not heavier distros (such as Ubuntu) who would benefit from it more) [23:43] Nick change: hackeron_ -> hackeron [23:43] dwm popular? never heard of it :) [23:44] I use xfce but am going to try awesome [23:44] "dwm is customized through editing its source code, which makes it extremely fast and secure" [23:44] Erm... dwm isn't popular with Slackware. [23:45] This reminds me of the fellow who got told by #ubuntu that Fluxbox is our favorite window manager. [23:45] ...assuming the customizer knows how to write fast and secure C code... [23:45] Slackware comes with KDE, xfce, twm, fluxbox, and blackbox. [23:45] "Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it's pointless to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid questions." <--- how rude! [23:46] don't forget windowmaker [23:46] Urchlay: Welcome to the elitist world of Linux. [23:46] Oh, windowmaker. Right. [23:46] s/Linux/humans/ [23:46] heh, was just about to pipe up about windowmaker :) [23:46] i use kde because i just don't give a hoot [23:46] I used to use Windowmaker a very long time ago. [23:46] nullboy: you don't pollute? [23:46] godling: speaking as a Neanderthal, I find that highly offensive [23:47] Alright alright, I suppose the non-users of DWM aren't the ones to be asking about the popularity of DWM :P [23:47] I bet you even pronounce the word neanderthal incorrectly. [23:47] (eh, well, typing as a neanderthal. My speech would just sound like incoherent grunting to you Cro-mag types) [23:47] ;P [23:47] Onto a question you guys have a more direct hand in. [23:47] I pronounce it "gruhhng" [23:48] (and yes I know the "th" is supposed to sound like a "t", but not being a German I usually forget) [23:48] You're German? [23:48] eh, no, I'm not.. which is why I don't pronounce it correctly, like a German would [23:49] I tried to build the newest kernel (and it built fine after a few screwy attempts) only to find that I was without entire network-support (ifconfig had no eth0 or wlan0 (which are my network devices)) I'm presuming this is because the kernel comes with no (or little) networking firmware packaged with it? [23:49] Oh, right then. [23:49] I don't pronounce "Mandelbrot" with a silent T at the end either... [23:50] Cryp71c: slackware comes with the firmwares you need for many cards [23:50] (apparently when he lectures, Benoit Mandelbrot has to mispronounce his own name to avoid stupid questions...) [23:50] nullboy: my installation of 12.2 had firmware for my NIC (and later I got my wireless firmware installed fine) [23:50] Cryp71c: if you didn't have interfaces showing up it could have simply meant that you needed to load the driver modules [23:50] Ben-oh-it Mandel-brought [23:50] nullboy: I'm referring to building the kernel directly from source [23:50] Cryp71c: which is what i do [23:51] yeah, only for me the first name comes out with 2 syllables.. "ben-oitt" [23:51] oh ok I didn't know if we were on the same page, my appologies. [23:51] Urchlay: "Ben-wa" [23:51] yah, that's how it's *supposed* to sound [23:51] Cryp71c: What chipsets? [23:51] Ah, that's how I hear it in my head. [23:52] but to me that's the name of a sex toy (benwa balls, however you spell it), so I can't make myself call a person that... [23:52] jkwood: NetLink BCM5787M NIC / BCM4311 WLAN [23:52] Well, you'll need the firmware for the wlan. [23:52] jkwood: yeah that's what I had to do when I first installed slackware. [23:52] So chances are the devices weren't showing up in my kernel build because (despite the firmware being there) the drivers were not loaded? [23:53] (at least for the NIC) [23:53] Did you try ifconfig -a? [23:53] is there some other way to build the kernel? build indirectly from source? :P [23:53] jkwood: I'm sure I did, but I can't be absolutely certain. [23:53] (or maybe "build directly from /dev/urandom"? no, that's Perl...) [23:53] jkwood: and after fiddling with it, I figured I'd go back to kernel building later [23:54] The default kernel should have the drivers built in. [23:54] Cryp71c: you did install the modules after building the kernel right? [23:54] make modules_install ? [23:54] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:54] it is possible to create a bootable kernel in some cases without installing the modules [23:55] There's a number of things that could be going on here. [23:55] nullboy: yes [23:55] ok [23:56] nullboy: when I built the kernel I used all default values (which essentially defeats the purpose of building the kernel from source, I'm sure) so how can I know which options I need and which ones I don't? Is there a listing of the build options and what compatibility/features are disabled if you turn off support for that module in the build? [23:56] Cryp71c: you need to read a lot ;) [23:56] /usr/lib/opera/9.63/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [23:56] nullboy: nooo :) I don't suppose I'm fortunate enough to have a single place to read from. [23:56] help me, please [23:56] Cryp71c: It helps to know your hardware. [23:57] godling: I know my hardware [23:57] Cryp71c: If you don't, you'll learn about it. :P [23:57] Cryp71c: in menuconfig there are help options that explain a lot but other than that you need to 1) know your hardware and 2) know the options you need to make the hardware work [23:57] SlackNeo: you're on -current, aren't you? [23:57] rworkman: yes [23:57] Cryp71c: the documentation folder contains some very enlightening information. [23:57] SlackNeo: then you'll need to get the opera that depends on qt4 rather than qt3 [23:58] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:58] actually... is there anything new & interesting in -current other than KDE? [23:58] godling: the documentation of the kernel source? [23:58] xfce 4.6. [23:58] other than window managers, I should have said [23:58] rworkman: thanks :) [23:58] Cryp71c: Yep. [23:59] Urchlay: new toolchain [23:59] and kernel [23:59] (yeah, I'll go read the ChangeLog later...) [23:59] hrr, gcc 4.3, right [23:59] Lots of new libs that go along with kde4 [23:59] Bash 4 in testing/. [23:59] So what is a distro? I kernel built with a certain set of options bundled with more firmware and drivers already loaded and a collection of binaries installed / configured? [23:59] Or is there more than that? [23:59] hm, bash 4 might be interesting to me [23:59] Cryp71c: If you get bored you can always grep for curse words in the source. [00:00] --- Tue Mar 24 2009