[00:02] will it always be a specific USB device? [00:03] udev can do what you need but I don't know the method off the top of my head [00:04] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Success [00:04] redtricycle: http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html [00:05] warning: some of the commands in that link are deprecated and no longer exist [00:05] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:05] there are newer alternatives now [00:06] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:06] officergris (n=officerg@tark-b-131.resnet.purdue.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:07] s/udevinfo/udevadm info/ [00:07] Urchlay (n=dammit@67.191.211.185) joined ##slackware. [00:07] indeed [00:07] ah... [00:07] I hate it how I learned that like 6 months ago (when slackware 12.2 just came out and I needed it) [00:07] and I forget everything about it after a while [00:07] >_< [00:10] qpp (n=qpp@99-195-55-117.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [00:14] schweeet! [00:15] i just got a half toasted laptop just for taking it.. and it has the Atheros mini-pcie card i have been looking for for ages! [00:15] Action: macavity rips out his Intel 3945abg [00:16] oh boy [00:16] and there goes the last peice of propietary software from my system :-D [00:17] I want it [00:17] give me the 3945 [00:17] the ucode? [00:17] ah :P [00:17] haha [00:17] nope.. that will go in the GFs machine.. she has a broadcom [00:17] hahaha [00:17] even 3945 is better than brcm [00:18] oh, it is not that the Intel card is bad technically [00:18] actually i have yet to see a better card [00:18] which mini-pcie atheros card did you get? [00:19] LiteOn something [00:19] AR2413 based [00:19] aka good support, injection in monitor mode.. but only b/g, no a [00:19] that's ok [00:20] I have seen exactly three 11A networks in my whole life [00:20] a is 11mbit only, isnt it? [00:20] not it's faster but less "penetration" [00:20] it's on 5ghz [00:21] they usually use it for PTP connections so that the PTP doesn't receive 2.4ghz interference [00:21] but i have hardly seen it, literally only three times in the wild [00:22] is the transmission range better on 5GHz? [00:22] nope [00:22] then screw it [00:22] less range, less object penetration [00:22] doubly so [00:22] and we all know that deep penetration of objects is desired [00:22] yup.. from multiple angles if possible :P [00:24] ag3ntugl1 (n=x@doc-24-32-2-231.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:25] Lite-On WN2302A-F4 [00:25] awesome thanks [00:25] ... the kind of model number you just keep in your head, just in case you see it on a shelf at the shop :P [00:26] that's just a minipci card no, no e [00:26] oh [00:26] my bad [00:26] dang [00:27] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [00:28] are you that pressed for a FLOSS compliant WIFI card? [00:28] macavity: nope, I just wish I had a minipcie atheros card as my internal card more than the 3945 internal e card [00:28] aah! [00:29] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [00:29] The atheros cards support some features that the intel cards don't; like proper bridging handling [00:29] and injection in monitor mode :P [00:30] well the 3945 does monitor well but injection is sketchy sometimes [00:30] i cant get it going at all [00:30] it's not even worth it really [00:30] I use a USB rtl8187 for injection now [00:30] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:30] that is, it belives it is injecting, but when i tap it over the ralink i have, it is not [00:30] it's awesome but doesn't support AP mode at all and never will [00:31] yup.. my rt73usb works bloody wonders too [00:31] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [00:31] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:32] the best part is that I use a long USB cable and don't need to worry about signal degradation like I would with an antenna cable [00:32] blackorca (n=blackorc@174-152-113-158.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:33] andarius tought me about the wonders of a woktenna [00:33] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-192-215.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [00:33] thus a USB device is a given [00:38] Urchlay (n=dammit@67.191.211.185) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [00:38] btw, it would be nice with a TKIP pwnage sometime soon :P [00:38] WEP is becomming pretty damn uncommon [00:38] http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/carbonfreesugar.jpeg [00:39] in my area, WEP is all over, even businesses still [00:39] it's hilarious [00:39] what the HELL? [00:39] It's carbon free dood [00:39] lol [00:39] carbon free sugar on one label, then "organic cane sugar" on another?!? [00:39] lol [00:40] orly? [00:40] here i see one quite rarely [00:40] even a local ISP and computer shop is using WEP [00:40] and if it is WEP the password is usually 0x0123456789 [00:40] aka, old Linksys :P [00:41] you can try the brute method with tkip [00:41] but i'd only waste time on that for a security job, to pull it off as proof [00:41] well.. a good dictionary attack could do the trick :P [00:41] Billtoo (n=Bill@bas4-unionville55-1279488427.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3" [00:42] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] Nick change: qpp -> qpp_ [00:42] lots of people here buy their own seperate wifi router, since the ISPs often charges extra on the monthly fee for it [00:42] Nick change: qpp_ -> qpp [00:44] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:45] qpp (n=qpp@99-195-55-117.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: [00:46] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. 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[00:53] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [00:56] aahh... a fellow dane who is chewing up the bad guys: http://duff.dk/viasat/ [00:56] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [00:56] superGear (n=supergea@65.113.15.181) joined ##slackware. [00:58] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:58] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [00:59] so quiet [01:01] enjoy the silence [01:02] ® depeche mode [01:04] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) joined ##slackware. [01:05] JaWiX (n=JaWiX@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [01:06] cmair (n=cmair@host56-111-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[01:18] init[1] (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Client Quit [01:19] grouper (n=grouper@ip68-105-173-2.ga.at.cox.net) left irc: [01:21] So i was thinking [01:21] that's dangerous [01:21] I should make a new git viewer for the command line [01:21] and call it 'clit' [01:21] rofl [01:21] i think it would be ahit [01:21] hit* [01:21] hahaha [01:22] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [01:22] this is awesome http://www.zedshaw.com/essays/programmer_stats.html [01:23] (even if he has some grammar and syntax issues) [01:23] make it a shell and call it shit [01:24] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [01:27] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:29] JaWiX (n=JaWiX@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [01:29] jawix (n=jawix@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [01:30] diabolix (n=jsoyke@c-24-3-121-83.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:31] cmair (n=cmair@host56-111-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:33] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:34] 'clit' is taken by ConvertLIT. it converts .lit to .txt or something [01:34] to html [01:35] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:37] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.70.32) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:42] gee, there will be 6.67126145 × 10^23 IP addresses per square meter on earth available... Wont run out anymore for good... [01:42] when IPv6 is fully implemented [01:43] oh you! [01:43] oh me! :/ [01:43] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:44] pff.. never say never... I remember some old geek saying no one would ever 640kb of memory [01:44] +need more than [01:45] antiwire: I'm trying to add a custom kernel to my luks/crypt laptop, and not having much luck. [01:45] quasar: at least i didnt say never [01:45] chopp: where's your sticking point? [01:45] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [01:46] antiwire: well it boots with errors with the initrd. http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/DYk99U39.html [01:47] how many virtual machines, each with virtual adapters, can a square meter on earth hold? [01:47] chopp: use -o with mkinitrd and give the custom kernel's intrd it's own name [01:47] chopp: looks like you've overwritten the initrd [01:48] nooper you don't even need to get fancy, a building is 3-d it's got floors. also one machine can host multiple IPs via a nic (no need for separate VMs) [01:48] chopp: example: mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.30.5-smp -m ext3 -f ext3 -r crypt -C /dev/sda2 -o initrd-2.6.30.5.gz [01:48] antiwire: I thought -c would just add the 2.6.30.5 modules to the existing initrd? [01:48] then fix up lilo.conf with the correct initrd name [01:48] nooper: actually the approach should be per cubic meter, since most of us live in a 3D space [01:49] -c clears the existing initrd tree before the new one gets built [01:49] sounds like ipv6 wont be enough at all [01:49] chopp: you want to have two different intrd's, one for each kernel [01:49] -o allows that to happen [01:49] antiwire: err oops, I mean without using -c. Ok I'll give that a go [01:50] chopp: make sure to *do* use -c though, and at this point, rebuild both initrd's [01:50] nooper: whats your approach then [01:50] each mkinitrd command should have the specific kernel name for -k and a specific initrd name for -o [01:51] chopp: should be fine after that [01:51] antiwire: yup alright thanks. [01:51] SlackWeird: i'm just here to point out problems, not solve them [01:51] SlackWeird: if the martians are supposed to use IPv6 too, how many adresses per square meter do we get then? [01:52] antiwire, what a great essay [01:52] though i hope we eventually move to a variable length system [01:52] hiptobecubic: good stuff I thought too [01:52] macavity: whats your point? [01:53] Nick change: obn4uticus -> obnauticus [01:53] SlackWeird: I think his point is how to you apply a flat address space to multiple dimensions and even then how do you apply it to multiple dimensions greater than 3? [01:54] SlackWeird: none really.. it is eight o clock in the morning, so i stopped making neither points nor sense some hours ago :P [01:54] we'd need some sort of vector addressing scheme -_- [01:54] using parsecs [01:54] antiwire: i think Mr/Miss/Mrs Vector would do... [01:54] sneakernet never had these problems [01:54] lol [01:55] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:55] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:57] anyone use kvm.ko module [01:57] me [01:57] kvm and kvm-intel [01:57] can you just insert that module or does it need to be rolled in [01:57] module is fine [01:59] cool. do i have to have an intel vt compatible processor [01:59] yes [02:00] hmm [02:00] intel or amd but needs to have the support either way [02:00] i see. [02:00] if you don't have a compatible CPU you can look into the kqemu module [02:00] are kvm and kvm-intel separate modules [02:00] yes [02:00] ahh [02:00] there is kvm and kvm-intel and kvm-amd [02:01] kvm is the base module and the kvm-* are for the different brands [02:01] ok. so instead of kvm-* i may be able to use kqwmu? [02:01] s/kqwmu/kqemu [02:02] you could use the kqemu module and then just make sure your qemu userspace has support for kqemu enabled [02:02] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-24-32-2-231.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [02:02] macavity: this how much,google this :(2^128) / (510 072 000 000 000 + 144 798 500 000 000) [02:02] this much * [02:03] alright. so kqemu is a kernel module too [02:03] yes [02:03] cool. thanks alot antiwire [02:03] np [02:04] but only nasa has the interplanetary interconnection technology [02:04] thats between 2^78 and 2^79 [02:04] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:06] NAT could still be used to relief a eventual Exhaustion... [02:06] not again with NAT [02:06] we've had enough with NAT for today [02:07] SlackWeird: nice :-) [02:07] antiwire: it wont be necessary but it could be possible [02:07] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:07] m to 1 nat will help provide more computers with less IPs, but real men have real ips [02:08] I'm actually looking forward to only needing to worry about filtering without NAT [02:08] tell that to ISPs [02:08] that will be awesome [02:08] mornin [02:08] Slack, just do what they do with license plates or telephone numbers, add another digit [02:08] they dont do that with plates [02:09] and 10 digits is the max for phones [02:09] mancha :) wassa matter for you? expanding the unexpandable; que loca [02:09] heh [02:11] dreamcage (n=marcio@201.86.187.117.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:11] hi [02:11] they add new area codes and do area code splits for phone numbers [02:11] that's adding zones; not digit :) [02:12] [/troll] [02:12] bahaha [02:13] see, that's why all the other "trolls" are amateurs :) [02:13] heh [02:13] and you're a professional? [02:13] better than most :) [02:13] doubtful :) [02:13] i'm not prideful; i know I have alot to learn about trolling :) [02:13] and btw, the length of the California plate sequence has been increased over time too [02:13] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:14] see, trolling isnt about me. its about hooking another who's bout to splode :) [02:14] that's troo, [02:14] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:15] you just got antitrolled [02:15] does kvm require X? [02:15] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [02:15] heh it haps [02:16] m_: no [02:16] m_: you can use ssh or VNC [02:16] that is very good news. [02:17] kvm i neat in that it implements chip tech but kqemu was quite ingenious [02:17] mancha: yeah, and both methods are pretty damn fast too [02:17] kvm is quite near native and kqemu isn't too shabby [02:18] is kqemu included like kvm [02:18] no [02:18] not in slackware by default [02:18] ok [02:18] also, the kvm in the kernel needs a special kvm userspace from the KVM project [02:19] I use the modules from 2.6.29.6 and qemu-kvm-88 [02:20] thank you. so qemu its self is not a module - correct? [02:20] yeah kvm.ko renders the linux kernel as a hypervisor then you need the userland vm [02:20] no qemu is the userspace tool but the standard qemu doesn't support kvm [02:20] hi, guys, anyone tried Bluewhite64 ? how it going ? [02:20] you need the KVM project's modified version of qemu [02:20] brb, probably going to die as slack officially supports 64 as of the upcoming release [02:20] brbrbr: slackware64 is going quite well [02:21] also didn't bluewhite merely rip slamd, repackage, and not credit appropriately? [02:22] antiwire: I haven't messed with the original initrd yet because it still boots. I created the new one with: mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.30.5 -m ext3 -f ext3 -r crypt -C /dev/sda2 -o initrd-2.6.30.5.gz and am now getting: mount: mounting /dev/cryptvg/root on /mnt failed: No such file or directory :P [02:22] i heard they use different toolchain ? 4 what point ? [02:22] why don't you just have an unencrypted /boot and stop fussing around. or is an encrypted kernel that important to you? [02:22] Herman (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:22] im dont think they thye dont credit Patric. even on front page, Slackware enumerated plan [02:23] chopp: I've never seen that error, but I also don't use LVM on my luks [02:23] brbrbr: Don't you think it makes more sense to talk about this in BW64's channel? [02:23] brbrbr: Slackware has Slackware64 [02:24] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-pqitousitzfctckj) joined ##slackware. [02:24] sry, i dont know they have channel, and think they chat here :/ sry [02:25] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-130-40.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:25] I want to be a weather man.. or a lawyer.. either way only having to be right 30% of the time must be great [02:25] yeah, i get 64 "current" its awesome [02:26] hope 12.3 out sometime :) [02:26] there will never be a 12.3 [02:26] inflation [02:26] lol [02:26] Global Warming ?:) [02:26] "I remember when a soda pop was a nickel and distribs incremented in tenths..." [02:27] so next release was 12.2,72 ? :) [02:27] 13.0 [02:27] oh [02:27] as the topic kinda points out :) [02:27] quasar: pff.. never say never... [02:27] i mistake with devalvation [02:28] SlackWeird: touche [02:29] hi ppl, do someone usu recompile the kernel to reach better use of the hardware? [02:30] better use of hardware you mean performance? [02:30] you can optimize for your specific processor if that's what you mean. also you can remove stuff not available on your box and add things you have or will have. is that what you mean? [02:30] yes [02:30] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [02:30] quite a few of us do [02:31] i mean, i ve got more ram than it can see here, and i dont know about the other things... so i would like to know about a book or kind of tutorial for me read more about how to do it the better way for my hardware... [02:32] dreamcage: my experience is that if there's such enhancement is imperceptible [02:32] if its a 4gig issue it might be an addressing bottleneck [02:32] nositelicense (n=quassel@cpe-67-49-45-203.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:33] is that it? you have more than 4 gigs of ram? [02:35] SlackWeird, let me tell you so. actually i am using ubuntu... but as you can imagine it ubuntu users doesnt like to study this kind of thing at all and they think that what ever canonical decides is the best for their hardware, but i have used some kind of easy way of recompiling the kernel changing little stuff like about my processor and ram that made it work visible much better... but know i dont the exctally way i dit it [02:35] ... so i am a little bit confused about how to do it again [02:35] gross [02:36] read the stuff in the docs dir of the kernel source [02:38] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [02:38] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [02:39] yeah like mancha told that rely on your hardware layout... I have 1gb ram a single core processor, and I didnt see any performance improvement whatsoever... [02:39] thanks anyway... i have seen something like a project to make this easy way of doing it... but afterall in the most cases is just like SlackWeird said, it is imperceptible [02:40] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:41] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:45] I think every female within 70 feet of me is menstruating [02:45] or just giving the appearance of pms? [02:45] two woman are fighting with their boyfriends and I just heard a literal cat fight [02:45] wtf man [02:46] where? [02:46] all around me [02:46] what should do to make kde (compiz) desktop effects enabled during each session,i mean it byitself disables the effects after i logout [02:46] trying to tell you something, then? [02:46] in the apartment above me, next door, outside my window [02:47] s/should do/should be done/ [02:47] and last night some other random chick was outside yelling at her boyfriend too [02:47] giuppy (n=giuppy@host105-166-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:47] antiwire: good grief, what a place to live. :P [02:47] seriously [02:48] normally you'd be thinking about rebound or spite sex but not in these cases. [02:48] the yelling is just way too much [02:48] any kde fans here? -_- [02:48] antiwire: get the camera, video tape it, put it on youtube, it will stop. :P [02:48] lol [02:48] init[1]: \o [02:49] fire|bird: wow, you are alive [02:49] Action: init[1] waves o/ slackers [02:49] Well I would hope I am, if I'm not, someone forgot to tell me. :P [02:50] lol, [02:50] dv502 (n=david@pool-141-149-32-5.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:50] init[1]: btw, I'm a kde4 fan. :D [02:50] Action: init[1] assumes fire|bird is left handed [02:50] nope, right [02:50] o/ [02:50] fire|bird: the way you waved , [02:51] yeah, I fail. :P [02:51] aah there ya go ;D [02:51] fire|bird: just installed kde4 [02:51] \o/ [02:51] I just re-built kde 4.3 today [02:51] i have the problem of effects getting disabled after each logout [02:51] dv502 (n=david@pool-141-149-32-5.ny325.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:51] fire|bird: are you mad,to rebuild kde4? [02:52] no, insane maybe, but not mad. I built 4.3 twice. :P [02:52] wow o_O [02:52] good times. :) [02:52] fire|bird: how long did it take ? and what processor are you in? [02:52] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-24-32-2-231.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [02:53] init[1]: Q1: lifetime (nah, about 5-6 hours) Q2: P4 3.2Ghz 1G ram [02:53] well, i think that is gona take 1 day for me . [02:53] evening everyone, im having some trouble, i set up a bridge on my route between my wireless and wired networks, and both of them can get to the internet, but they cant talk to eachother, i figure i need to add a route but i dont know exactly what it needs to be, anyone got an idea? [02:53] bah, thanks a lot, now my effects aren't working at all. [02:53] Herman (n=Hermannn@m90-137-92-52.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [02:54] :P [02:54] fire|bird: you mean after rebuild? [02:54] what is the uglier experience, building kde or using it? :) [02:54] init[1]: yeah, but I'm sure it's nvidia's fault. :) [02:54] mancha: building. :P [02:54] ag3ntugly ##networking? [02:54] Action: brbrbr dreaming on lighweight Qt DE, like xFce/Qt :P [02:55] Quiznos: i use slackware so i tried here first out of habit... [02:55] mancha: you don't like kde4? :P [02:55] sure [02:55] fire|bird: but other users that i have configured doesn't have any problem, i mean on the same machine [02:55] but if no answer... [02:55] brctl [02:55] ag3ntugly: which wireless card is it? [02:55] not all wireless cards support bridging [02:55] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89B45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:55] y0 slackytude [02:56] morning [02:56] in fact, some flat out won't work at all when added to a bridge [02:56] y0 fire|bird [02:56] hi [02:56] yo slackytude [02:56] y0 init[1] , Quiznos [02:56] antiwire, man... i see many girls like that but in the gym... [02:56] dusty_ (n=dusty@174.37.216.194) joined ##slackware. [02:56] antiwire: atheros, using madwifi [02:57] What is a good .chm viewerd for slackware? [02:57] ag3ntugly: ok that will work, are the interfaces that are members of the bridge in promiscuous mode? [02:57] xchm [02:57] antiwire: no, but the wired network is switched, what will that do? [02:58] you might want to put the bridge members into promisc mode before adding them to the bridge [02:58] can you explain that a bit i dont see how that will change anything [02:59] thanks [02:59] it's a test to see if there is a problem with the interfaces that are part of the bridge in accepting ethernet frames that don't have the proper MAC headers [03:00] Action: slackytude doesnt want to work [03:00] ag3ntugly: have you tcpdump'd any traffic so you can see what is going on? [03:00] dusty there are others out there...but that one works [03:00] no [03:00] truzicic (n=toma@83-131-233-170.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [03:01] grazymax (n=grazymax@host116-152-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:01] i figured it was matter of routes i needed to add, so im looking into that first [03:01] you're bridging though [03:01] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:02] I think hes not actually bridgin anything [03:02] \0/ i got GWave Developer Sandbox.just now .... yay \o/ [03:03] init[1]: cool [03:03] got one too [03:03] slackytude: by e-mail? [03:04] notice by e-mail I mean [03:04] mancha: thank you [03:05] np [03:05] haha, nice drug store: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OxVS6AnKVX8/Sne30wSde6I/AAAAAAAAACY/-azSlfYacBY/s1600-h/stoner+drug.jpg [03:06] Herman (n=Hermannn@m90-137-92-52.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:06] fire|bird: no costumers tho [03:06] ag3ntugly: you said you connected a wired and wireless network using bridging? [03:07] hey [03:07] ag3ntugly: are they two different subnets? [03:07] no [03:08] 192.168.1.0/24 [03:08] nm [03:08] antiwire: eth0 goes to my cable modem, and ath0 and eth1 are bridged together, but the wired hosts and the wireless hosts cant ping eachother, but both can ping the router and get to the internet [03:09] can you show me your touting table, sounds like a missing orute [03:09] route -n [03:09] there's a networking howto [03:10] they are bridged [03:10] how do you bridge two interfaces with route command [03:10] this sounds more like an part issue [03:10] and a bridging howto also [03:10] this sounds more like an arp issue [03:10] not a route issue [03:10] mancha: 1 second [03:11] we need to see what frames trying to cross the bridge look like [03:11] fire|bird, yes [03:11] but not today, some days earlier [03:11] mancha: http://pastebin.com/m66ab087 [03:11] gawd i am hungry [03:11] is there a GW (gateway from/to wireless to wired? [03:12] WTB a 100lbs tunar fish and blow torch :P [03:12] also, all 802.11 (iirc) can be bridged. if you must you can always use proxyaro [03:12] proxyarp [03:12] Quiznos: dude. [03:12] dood [03:12] this is a bridge. [03:12] slackytude: Hmm, I haven't received anything. [03:12] what kind? Brooklyn, Tappanze or SanFran? [03:12] the clients behind the bridge can get out to the internet fine. they can't hit each other across the bridge. [03:13] this is most likely and arp issue [03:13] ag3ntugly: are you using hostapd? [03:13] no [03:13] yeah he wont need routing for communicating between the two networks... [03:13] but is there a GW in the route table tween the wifi and the router? [03:13] omfg. [03:13] i give up [03:13] can someone help me understand the differences between --build --host and --target [03:13] ag3ntugly: can you arping between the host? [03:13] why do i need hostapd? [03:14] let me try [03:14] hiptobecubic usually for cross-compile? [03:14] ag3ntugly: you don't necessarily [03:14] Quiznos, yes [03:14] ag3ntugly: I wasn't omfg'ing at you [03:14] oh [03:14] and yes i can arping from a wired host to a wireless host [03:15] but a regular ping to the same host fails [03:15] then guess what ... im 99% that might be a firewall thing? [03:15] i just added lines to forward between ath0 and eth1, both ways [03:15] and it did nothing [03:15] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-130-40.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:16] hiptobecubic did you look at ./configure --help to see those helps? [03:16] yes, and that's why i'm asking [03:16] ag3ntugly: what does this output for you? cat /proc/sys/net/bridge/bridge-nf-* [03:16] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:17] it says 1,1,1,1 [03:17] hiptobecubic are you tryin to cross-comp? [03:17] stacked up and down [03:17] Quiznos, so if i wanted to use an x86 to build a compiler that will run on x86 and make code that runs on x86_64, what do i need to pass it [03:18] This is still step one. So i'm compiling the gcc that is going to be the cross compiler [03:18] try this: for f in bridge-nf-*; do echo 0 > $f; done [03:18] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: "chao pajudos =P" [03:18] what does that do? [03:18] hiptobecubic a x86_64 name that ./configure will recognise; see ./config.guess [03:18] that disables netfiltering on the bridge [03:18] ah [03:18] ag3ntugly: you'll need to cd into /proc/sys/net/bridge/ [03:18] still nothing [03:19] ah [03:19] Quiznos, --build should be x86 because that is what it's being built on. --host... i think is also x86 because that is what it will run on? and then --target should be x86_64 [03:19] hiptobecubic: if you want to build a cross compiling tool chain i suggest you go with CLFS [03:19] hiptobecubic: ... getting a cross compiler right is anything but trivial [03:19] hiptobecubic ok [03:19] works a lot better in the right dir [03:19] thanks that worked like a charm [03:19] working now? [03:20] you can hit other host now? [03:20] yes [03:20] ;) [03:20] i'll send you a basket of muffins :-) [03:20] awesome [03:21] Quiznos: oh what's that? it wasn't a route issue? omgz0rz [03:21] antiwire you're too easy to poke :) i'm not. [03:21] when we talk of bridges, routes are on a different layer [03:21] Nick change: brbrbr -> brbrbr|br [03:21] and all i wanted was a question to my answer. [03:22] was there a GW entry between networks. [03:22] like bridges vs subway tunnels...but you wouldn't know about subways now would you Mr Toasty [03:22] oh snap. [03:22] i gre up in THAT city [03:22] gre [03:22] lol [03:22] grew [03:22] lol [03:22] my pinky wasnt moving to hit the w [03:23] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:23] Quiznos: it couldnt have GW entry since they were bridged [03:23] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [03:23] ty [03:23] antiwire see, was that so damn hard to write? [03:23] heh [03:23] i tried to but it was hidden in my sarcasm [03:24] lol; boy are you out of practice [03:24] Quiznos: his pinky wasn't moving to hit those keys [03:24] or the words [03:24] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:24] amateurs [03:24] lol [03:24] antiwire's sarcasm is a technical approach [03:24] hah [03:25] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [03:26] well, i approach sarcasm from old skool; Dangerfield, the pink-hair-wigged lady Phylis and the others from the 60s; it's not necesa to be mean in order to insult or be sarcastic. [03:26] Phylis Diller [03:26] I hate mondays [03:26] which are essential skils to trolling magnificently. [03:26] and I hate customers [03:27] as i peactice here :) [03:27] slackytude heh [03:27] Quiznos: but you get anti-trolled too often [03:27] you need to work on that [03:27] another case of the mondays, slackytude? [03:27] what i do and what you do are not exclusive [03:27] good trolling is hard to anti-troll [03:27] i disagree; it happens. [03:27] you just have aminor stroke in the fray is all [03:28] this was a good anti-troll episode http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1499 [03:28] quasar, bad one [03:28] heh [03:29] i dont need props to troll [03:29] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: "leaving" [03:29] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-24-32-2-231.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [03:31] haha, http://imgur.com/1b5XF.jpg [03:31] http://tinyurl.com/mbvql4 [03:31] is that the canadian army? [03:31] i prefere when the ops feed the trolls to slackboy :P [03:32] in those ziplock commercials, showing a woman throwing frozen meat in trash; wth throws freeze burned meat away? [03:32] it's still good. [03:32] just gotta spice it up [03:32] antiwire: too bad I didn't see the raptor do this at the show I was too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikelynaugh/3842659846/sizes/o/ [03:32] macavity: ++ [03:32] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:32] quasar: looks oriental, but no tsure of hte uniform [03:32] we cant have our bot starve anyway :P [03:33] macavity: If Quiznos would be fed to slackboy, slackboy would be full for a while. :P [03:35] lol [03:35] dream on,. mcduff, er macavity [03:36] bbl [03:37] blerg [03:37] y0 Camarade_Tux [03:37] morning tuxer [03:38] werd homies [03:38] :-D [03:39] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:39] yoyo fire|bird, morning slacker :p [03:42] Action: macavity wasnt aware he was actually in da hood [03:43] hi people [03:43] fire|bird: i filmed this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyU6EQPBKYE [03:43] i have more too [03:44] nice. man that plane can maneuver in ways you wouldn't think possible. [03:45] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [03:46] antiwire: I wonder what the F-35 will be able to do. [03:46] insane [03:46] I want to see vertical mode [03:46] Nullslash (n=Null@cpe-24-164-133-222.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:46] macavity: Well, you are holmes. [03:47] antiwire: just being able to operate that camera at 104 is a feat in itself :P [03:47] antiwire: F-35 has vertical take off [03:47] yep [03:47] antiwire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm7_PPE-8nk [03:47] chopp: hahaha [03:48] antiwire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBt-aQ1vObM&feature=related [03:48] i know it does it but i want to see it in person [03:48] yeah, that's be awesome [03:48] that'd [03:49] they're still going forward with the F-35 after the 22 was canned? [03:49] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [03:50] In this one you can hear some dude in the crowd go "look how slow he's going" and then we get blasted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWX2dG9MNWM [03:50] quasar: yeah [03:50] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [03:50] quasar: I think 2011 or 2015, I can't remember. [03:50] Nullslash (n=Null@cpe-24-164-133-222.si.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:50] nice but strange in the same [03:51] quasar: Well, F-22 has some issues, it makes sense to me. F-35 is it's successor [03:51] the 'skin' ? .. worth it if you ask me [03:52] if it saves a pilot's life, do whatever it takes.. that's my opinion anyway [03:52] antiwire: haha, sweet [03:54] I thought the US was going drones [03:54] ananke, I installed xawtv. But is it where I type 'xawtv' or is there another command? Or should I not have gotten it from slacky.eu? [03:54] *to use [03:55] drones are still special purpose, pilots will pretty much always be needed [03:55] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:55] at least for the next couple of decades [03:55] quasar: I mean leaky fuselage causing corrosion issues, etc. causing millions of $ extra to fix them. [03:56] and now the knee it hurting epic style [03:56] antiwire: thanks for sharing those videos of the raptor. [03:56] you're welcome, i had been meaning to put them up [03:58] i'm right by the naval base so I hear loud and fast things all the time. usually, whatever it is goes so fast out to sea that i don't have time to film it [03:59] haha, it must be cool being that close though. [03:59] not always - especially when you're trying to get to sleep [03:59] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [04:00] lol [04:00] lately i have been hearing something book it very high and fast out to sea each night between 1 and 2 am [04:00] I can never see it though [04:01] It'd be cool to live in the town the show I went to was in, the airport is also the air national guard base so F16's fly around quite a bit. [04:01] ejal (n=ejal@CBL217-132-91-226.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. [04:02] antiwire: I just think they were a little premature in shutting them down and keeping pilots in the old systems that are very much so obsolite by other systems that are currently in the air in other countries.. most of them have less than 100k flight hours which is a very small number on aircraft [04:02] personally, I still think the f-22 should have gone with the navy style of refuelling [04:03] that's the side pop out method? [04:03] or the top? [04:03] that side method is wild [04:04] there's a side method? nice. [04:04] neither - the navy style is the supply plane extends a basket that the pilot flies his probe into - the a/f style is the pilot opens a hatch, and the supply plane has to poke a probe into the plane [04:04] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:04] fire|bird: some planes (like the F16) have a probe that's in front of the pilot that pops out the right side [04:04] antiwire, I feel your pain ;) [04:05] alisonken1noc: sweet, I've seen F16's but didn't know that. :) [04:05] Action: jescis use to live in Hampton, VA [04:05] sorry - not f-16, f-14 tomcat [04:05] Ah, never seen one of those. [04:06] except in a flight sim :P [04:06] what is the fuel capacity? and is mid-air refueling that comon with aircraft groups all over? [04:06] carrier groups [04:06] hrm carrier groups [04:06] there are only two things at sea, subs and targets [04:07] jescis: the knee pain? [04:07] Action: slackytude played subsims way too often [04:07] this sucks really bad right now too [04:07] mancha: specifically carrier groups, but any extended range patrol would use refuelling. the sea stallion heavy-lift helicopter also does aerial refuelling [04:07] slackytude: :) [04:07] Well, time to get going. Later guys. Take care. [04:07] antiwire, losing sleep because of planes making to much noise [04:07] see ya fire|bird [04:07] fire|bird: http://navyshipgallery.blogspot.com/2008/11/navy-fighter-jets-f-14-refuel.html [04:08] jescis: haha yeah that too [04:08] after they get out over the ocean it's all good [04:08] Is there a way to make an entry in lilo at boot? just so i can point lilo at a kernel and boot it? [04:08] alisonken1noc: cool, thanks. [04:08] its a cmd line [04:09] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [04:09] hiptobecubic: AFAIK, lilo only allows cli selection of an image already part of lilo.config [04:09] iirc, just type like you waould at the bootCD kernel menu [04:09] could be wrong.. [04:09] wd_ (n=wd@cpe-98-148-252-52.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:09] rats [04:10] y0 Zordrak, already at work or still reading comics [04:10] guys is it possible to upgrade from 10.2 to 12.2 using slackpkg? if not is there any other way instead of burning 12.2 iso's? i'm on vacation and just want to use net. [04:11] neither yet.. its monday morning.. filling out the weekly report [04:11] wd_: dont [04:11] Zordrak: oh? [04:11] uh, reports [04:11] wd_: its technically possible.. but will almost certainly break [04:11] wd_, hahaha [04:11] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:11] its just too much of a jump [04:11] Zordrak: hmm.ok [04:11] oh, the pain [04:11] wd_, the jump from 10 -> 11 was bad enough [04:11] vacations are over [04:11] not to mention 2.4 -> 2.6 [04:12] wd_: got a thumbdrive (~4gb) handy? [04:12] Zordrak: oh rats.. i'll have to wait until i get home then. :( [04:12] the whole udev thing [04:12] quasar: hmm i'm listening. [04:12] USB installers are on the mirrors, I believe [04:13] quasar: hmmm. i'll check [04:13] Zordrak: ty [04:13] quasar: is it simple as dl installer, cp to thumb and reboot? [04:14] more like dd of=thumbdrive, but pretty much [04:14] alisonken1noc: oh ok. [04:14] check the readme for thumbdrive [04:14] alisonken1noc: ok. [04:14] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [04:14] does the bios pick it up as a usb-hd or usb-cd? [04:14] mancha: good question. [04:15] mancha: i'm curious too. [04:15] depends on the computer, but bios usually picks them up as usb-hd [04:16] unless there's a website for that kind of info... there's only one way to find out >.> [04:16] I'd still like to see an air force jock try a controlled crash on a pitching runway [04:17] wd_ (n=wd@cpe-98-148-252-52.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [04:18] alisonken1noc: they do it (in simulators) all the time for the fun of it.. but in an actual jet, not many would take you up on that offer with an AF aircraft... not quite sure why.. one mentioned not being able to swim when I asked him once.. didn't make sense to me though :( [04:18] that woulnd't make sense since all pilots have to go through SARS - which includes water rescues [04:19] think he was talking about the jet [04:19] well, the a/f jets themselves are not beefy enough for a carrier landing - gear would collapse the first time [04:19] even if you could find a way to put a hook in the tail [04:20] on second thought - yeah, he was probably talking about the jet not being able to take it [04:20] lol [04:21] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 148 (No route to host) [04:21] Action: Zordrak now prefers PXE/NFS installs [04:22] I'll say this much though.. out of all the pilots I knew in 4 flying training squadrons not a single one of the air forcers ever missed the line and put an aircraft in the ocean... but I did know one Navy (he was the commander of either the 8th or 33rd) who did (his callsign was Splash, amazingly) [04:22] heh [04:23] haha :D [04:24] Zordrak, what if the computer doesn't support NFS/PXE? [04:24] you buy one that does [04:24] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [04:25] sup TwinReverb :) [04:25] ? [04:25] not much [04:25] jescis: then USB is the way to go [04:25] jescis: anyway [04:26] i have been tasked with putting Linux on the communal computer in the chapel's internet cafe [04:26] jescis: it cant NOT support NFS unless it doesnt have anetwork card [04:26] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [04:26] so you can boot with USB and till do an NFS install [04:26] i'm going to have to go with a very secured version of Slackware Linux due to someone already hijacking the Vista on that computer with a USB stick courtesy of the pirate bay [04:26] TwinReverb, chapel as in church? [04:26] yes they have an internet cafe sort of building across the street [04:27] eh [04:27] both the cheapo webcams they have for it don't work with linux but my friend wants to pay for a webcam [04:28] slackytude: ok.. now i go get coffee /then/ its news&comics [04:28] Zordrak, enjoy ^-^ [04:28] Action: slackytude gets some coffee as well [04:28] cheap always means no linux support in 99% of the cases >.> [04:28] TwinReverb dont forget to rmpkg the compilers and make a another nobody-user for login; or, make user.usergid to separate everyone; or, use sub-kernels to jail everyone. [04:29] both register and Skype tries to interface with them, but either it shows screwed up green video or else Skype crashes [04:29] Quiznos, i will probably do one user [04:29] yea, that's simple [04:29] fully encrypted hard drive too [04:29] ok but that doesnt prevent bad within [04:30] i know but that way the clowns don't do anything stupid [04:30] which clowns? encryption wont prevent clowning [04:30] the user will probably only be member of video and audio group (i will experiment by starting off with no groups except nobody group then add groups only as required to get them the ability to use sound, etc) [04:30] TwinReverb, clowns are supposed to be stupid ;) [04:30] Action: TwinReverb sighs [04:30] you know what i mean [04:31] yea [04:31] well remember to trim the installed pkgs [04:31] put everything in /skel and wipe and redo the user on each boot [04:31] Action: jescis is just giving comic releif ;;) [04:32] probably best to boot from cd or some other non-writeable / [04:32] in that order; also clean out the tmp's [04:32] if that doesnt fly, make sure you run something like tripwire [04:32] rm unneeded dirs too like src's and all of usr/local [04:32] kill usr/docs and man [04:32] unless the box is for learning too [04:33] you guys send suggestions to me by email (http://www.puresimplicity.net/~twinreverb) i am about to run out of battery [04:33] ok gn. [04:33] aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh [04:33] Logitech QuickCam Pro 4/5000 [04:33] yeah or 9000 like mine [04:34] Freshly ground French Roast... just unbeatable [04:34] mmm [04:34] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.89.17) joined ##slackware. [04:34] damnit [04:34] http://darkreading.com/security/client/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=219400902 [04:34] the main thing i am thinking is how to automate updates to slackware [04:34] crontab -e root [04:34] Looks like this: http://www.tpa.me.uk/raktajino.jpg [04:35] if it dont look like that.. IT AINT COFFEE! [04:35] :) [04:35] Quiznos, btw your prices suck. that's why subway is better ;p [04:35] TwinReverb, cron slackpkg or put it in rc.local [04:35] lol [04:35] i'm not the shill [04:35] yeah rc.local might work [04:35] but that would delay end of booting [04:36] Action: TwinReverb shrugs [04:36] i'm assuming it will stay running 24/7 [04:36] cron is better [04:36] nods [04:36] make sure "sleep" is properly set up [04:36] do cron jobs stay running through init levels? [04:36] even to poweroff [04:36] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.89.17) left irc: Client Quit [04:36] rl's >1 [04:36] i would only upgradepkg via init level 1 [04:36] oh [04:36] nothin runs in 1 [04:36] just in case it's an X set [04:37] crontab a script to chk and change rl's [04:37] i mean if it's a cron update it won't work via cron 8-) [04:37] or [04:37] use at.1 [04:37] at? [04:37] i think it does cyclical runs of commands. [04:37] i used it last nite to kill a multi-hour wget [04:38] while i slept [04:39] or [04:39] hmmm, mount /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd is stuck and I can't eject the dvd, any idea ? [04:39] you can setup rl's A|B|C to handle updates [04:39] Camarade_Tux use a paperclip? [04:39] Camarade_Tux what wchan is mount in? [04:39] i was thinking during boot (run level 1) [04:40] ABC's are prior to 1 [04:40] i think [04:40] well root partition needs to be mounted etc yada yada [04:40] init can do that [04:40] yes [04:40] basically inject a command right after mounting / as rw [04:40] grazymax (n=grazymax@host116-152-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:40] so to recap.. i got kqemu, kvm-17 kvm.ko and thats all i need, right? [04:41] inject what to do what? [04:41] i can do a cron job to run the rsync every once in a while [04:41] Quiznos: got the dvd out but mount is still stuck [04:41] put a command right after / gets mounted RW [04:41] in whatever init script it is [04:41] Camarade_Tux ok [04:41] rc.S [04:41] grazymax (n=grazymax@host254-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:42] is `0 > /var/run/utmp` safe? if not, is there a safe way to clear the stale entries? [04:42] in days past, i would put the fscking into a rc.fs [04:42] quasar rm and touch [04:42] Quiznos: and I don't have paper clips, I had to use electric wire :D [04:42] ok [04:43] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:43] BIOS password will be a necessity [04:43] TwinReverb yea good idear [04:43] thanks [04:43] TwinReverb i have a prob with rsyncing during rc's running [04:43] to prevent people slapping in a live dvd / usb [04:43] sucks [04:43] rsync will be by cron job [04:44] ok [04:44] update by init level 1 [04:44] reboot [04:44] TwinReverb you'll have to chk if any daemons are run in RL1 [04:44] m_ (n=m@209.90.93.98) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:48] TwinReverb, you ever use a tv tuner? what app is the best with out mysql? I've tried mythtv(requires MySQL) and installed xawtv. I'd like an alternative [04:48] jescis: why? [04:49] whats wrong with mysql? even Amarok uses a db [04:49] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:49] Zordrak, mythtv can't find a upnp or something >.> [04:51] Zordrak, every time I get "Cannot login to database?" [04:53] postgres is quite good [04:53] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [04:53] mounted ok after cleaning the dvd, the lense and rebooting because mount wouldn't die [04:53] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-24-6-177-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:53] ok [04:53] Action: jescis wonders what he forgot [04:54] hmm syslogd restarted; wonder why [04:54] Zordrak, I did start mysqld_safe >.> [04:54] jescis: uh.. did you create one? [04:55] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-151.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:55] Nick change: slackytude -> new_nickname_her [04:55] ok, dvd fsck'ed up [04:56] Nick change: new_nickname_her -> slackytude [04:56] time to try dd for forensics? :d [04:56] sure; how is it fkd up? [04:56] zsh: Input/output error: /mnt/dvd/linux-installer.sh [04:57] that's all I know right now [04:57] whats that .sh do? [04:57] installs ut2k4 :D [04:57] can you see scratches on dvd? [04:57] dd_recue [04:57] dd_rescue [04:57] trying dc3dd :P [04:58] jawix (n=jawix@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [04:58] JaWiX (n=JaWiX@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [04:58] http://www.h-online.com/security/Deadly-pings-for-Cisco-routers-and-switches--/news/114058 [04:58] i can't find examples [04:58] ping of death? [04:59] antiwire, funny stuff [04:59] cisco already updated firmware, tho [04:59] ='( [04:59] dc3dd: reading `/dev/dvd' at sectors 0-63: Input/output error [04:59] well they updated it up that doesn't mean everyone else did! [04:59] hmm; if that were a hd i'd say zero them [05:00] antiwire, course not. I meant to say, if you run cisco, its time to update [05:00] lol [05:00] forgot to dmesg [05:01] Camarade_Tux, that is why I dont like optical media [05:01] far too easy to break [05:01] should have backed it up [05:02] Id like to buy stuff on flash disks or sd cards, anything [05:03] not cd's or dvd's [05:03] the hell with blueray [05:04] usbflash would be cool [05:04] AAARRRRGGGHHH the LIIIIGGHT!! [05:04] Action: Zordrak pulled back the blinds.. [05:04] heh [05:04] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=319839 lol, sounds like the guy owns an official cd/dvd [05:05] they sell movies on sd cards in japan [05:05] i think isp capped me; my dl speeds are half off the usual [05:05] well, if you buy a dvd, you get the sd card as well, afaik [05:06] hmmm [05:07] dvd fucked up ='( [05:09] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [05:09] nooooooooooooooo! ='( [05:09] draeath (n=pbransfo@66-118-149-200.static.sagonet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:10] is 13.0rc3 for the next month? (a smaller rc-step each ~1 month) [05:10] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [05:11] is it just me.. or is the feed reader in thunderbird fscking useless? [05:11] It's almost as useless as the usenet support [05:12] lol [05:12] what do you use? [05:12] Action: draeath grumbles. it only posts via smtp, not through nntp itself. also, it's quite heady for an active group, like comp.lang.python [05:12] if you say FF live bookmarks i'll rip your nipples off and feed them to my cats [05:12] snownews [05:13] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:13] I don't use feeds :/ [05:13] what are feeds for? [05:13] and fuck once again [05:13] Camarade_Tux: er, what? [05:14] i have 5 feeds... -current-32, -current-64, 12.2-patches, alienBOB's repo and Slackware-Security [05:14] Does anyone have comments on upgrading wxPython-src-2.8.9.2 to wxPython-src-2.8.10.1 and the possibility of breaking applications that use wxPython which had been built against the older version? [05:14] draeath: dead dvd ='( [05:15] antiwire: helo inflight refueling from a destroyer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQhVVYSa7v8 [05:16] man accused of murdering model-gf found dead by hanging [05:16] could be a SD card cheaper than one DVD or Bluray? [05:18] erk.. does slack even ship with any gui feed readers? [05:18] maxote: not yet... single discs are cheap [05:19] *facepalm* [05:20] Action: draeath palms Camarade_Tux's face [05:21] Action: slackytude uses the builtin opera rss reader [05:21] Action: Zordrak looks for a kApplet [05:21] Zordrak, only kde stuff [05:22] Zordrak, aggrekator or something [05:22] akregator [05:22] rssnow widget... [05:22] rssnow? [05:22] bugger.. its a backgound sitter [05:22] ty for akgregator [05:23] np, but its pretty ugly [05:23] kinda works tho [05:23] only other options are RSSNOW (i hate background-sitters!) or Firefox [05:23] its not that i dont like thunderbird's.. it just isnt actually working [05:24] it pulls feeds IF it feels like it.. maybe [05:24] Zordrak, there is stuff on sbo [05:24] it puts the lotion on the skin. [05:25] tbird isnt an rss reader [05:25] slackytude: such as.. [05:25] gueoss its time to go trawl sbo [05:25] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:25] sahko: it's supposed to be [05:25] Hi all [05:25] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/network/liferea/ [05:25] Little question about nfs... [05:25] sahko: s/!$/it's supposed to be abse to/ [05:25] no, its falsely advertised as one [05:25] Between two slack boxes, nfs [05:26] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-151.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:26] I'm being able to mount the nfs share on the client [05:26] However, when I try to get into the mounted share, either as user or as root, I'm getting 'permission denied' [05:27] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:27] Options on the exports file: rw,no_subtree_check,sync,all_squash [05:28] ganeshix, sshfs wasnt working? [05:29] brbrbr|br (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:29] slackytude, this is another setting. [05:30] brbrbr|br (n=brbrbrbr@ppp85-141-236-254.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:30] slackytude, do you recommend that I use sshfs instead? [05:30] ganeshix, right, but sshfs worked for you? [05:30] ganeshix, I dont know your setting this time [05:30] slackytude, thanks. [05:31] Camarade_Tux: do you by any chance know who runs http://www.slackware-fr.org/ ? since you are french and all [05:31] slackytude, actually someone recommended me to use nfs as the 'standard' way to do it. Plus, I wanted to learn how to use it anyway... [05:32] sahko: dunno the slackware-fr community but I can help, what do you need/want ? [05:32] ganeshix, sure, nfs is good. I just think sshfs is better for WAN [05:32] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189.69.18.120) joined ##slackware. [05:32] Camarade_Tux: the 64bit -current changelog rss feed is stuck. 32bit -current works [05:33] slackytude, it is a LAN this time. So they said: 'sshfs is a kludge... old nfs is better for a lan' [05:33] heh [05:33] well that certainly is one opinion [05:33] sahko: you could try a 'whois' lookup and start by contacting the... technical contact! [05:33] slackytude, I'm just learning, you know.... :) [05:34] ganeshix, agreed, nfs for lan [05:34] slackytude, tnx [05:35] So, how can I troubleshoot this? I have two howtos in front of me... [05:35] They don't say what to do if the share is already mounted and I can't get into the folder that is mounted... [05:36] draeath: i asked hoping someone would be easily accessible, eg. here [05:36] Can it be a user ID problem? [05:36] sahko: aah. well, the best I can get for you is an email forwarding thing from the registrat [05:36] Action: draeath hates whois protection. It's there for a damn reason! [05:38] I'm being able to ls -l the folder, but it shows ???? ? ? ? ? for all columns that are not the names.... [05:38] on a local directory, that would be a sign of a corrupt filesystem. thats over nfs though, right? [05:39] draeath, yes , nfs [05:39] hmm.. rpc active? [05:39] ok, one thought: I have different user names on the client and the server. Is that a problem with the options I mentioned on the exports file? [05:40] ganeshix: only the UID/GID matters [05:40] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-27-37.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [05:40] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [05:40] draeath, I see [05:41] draeath, rpc working on both server and client [05:41] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:41] I've only done NFS once, several months ago [05:42] its been some time since I did nfs as well [05:42] I don't use it anymore. I don't do unencrypted network comms if i can help it [05:43] nfsv4 is encrypted [05:44] Do you recommend nfsv4 instead? [05:45] depends on your setup [05:45] inside a small lan nfsv3 is still good [05:46] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.21.67) joined ##slackware. [05:46] slackytude, it is a small lan [05:47] I thought I got it right this time, but it does not let me in... [05:48] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [05:50] besides, nfsv4 aint in slackware [05:50] at least in 12.2 [05:51] not sure about 13 [05:53] is there a way to isolate instances of a program? for .... instance .... a firefox... instance (ARRGH!) for work and one for home? to help me separate my bookmarks - although I guess I could just do it using foxmarks or something [05:54] I imagine all I need is a duplicate of the firefox-bin directory in my home path [05:57] Zordrak, tried lifera? [05:58] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.25.248) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:59] Action: TwinReverb is still trying to get the same firefox setup to work with both 64bit and 32bit [05:59] yeah.. seems ok.. except, i logged off whil/e it was up.. and now it know theres 55 unread items.. but wont display any... [06:00] might go back to akregator [06:00] why dont you use google reader? [06:00] Zordrak: ^ [06:01] meh [06:01] cz [06:02] i like client side so much better [06:03] I can't get audacity's SBo build to recognize soundtouch even though it is installed [06:03] does anyone have both installed? could you ldd audacity for me please? [06:03] google reader has a major advantage over any other ive tried. it doesnt flush the cache according to the feed limit, so you can see articles from way back. on most other ones you just see 100 items [06:03] i think im gonna stick with akregator for naw and see how things pan out [06:04] I mean, both installed and had enabled soundtouch in the audacity build [06:05] oo.. [06:05] akregator can tie into google reader, giving option for both... [06:05] interesting [06:08] but it looks like craaaap [06:08] need to listen to something german, Die Arzte, Rammstein or Die Apokalyptischen Reiter? [06:09] Camarade_Tux, huh? [06:09] ? [06:10] ? [06:10] ! [06:10] hi to all [06:10] Camarade_Tux: !? [06:10] hi [06:10] :) [06:11] * [06:12] Action: draeath has been bested by the allmighty wildcard [06:12] | [06:12] night folks [06:12] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [06:12] night [06:13] oh [06:14] ~ [06:14] ^C [06:15] % [06:16] thanks for stopping me, I was completely stuck >< [06:16] lol [06:16] damn zombie [06:16] hmmm... google rleader tie-in not appearing to do anything [06:22] wobbles_ (n=huntsman@C-59-101-147-3.mel.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:22] BringingSexyBack (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [06:23] yeah [06:23] wtf.. the options in 1.2.5 allowed you to manually syng.. in 1.4.2 it doesnt appear to be doing anything and theres no manual option [06:24] . [06:26] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [06:29] ... [06:29] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-86-242.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [06:32] those fscking bastards http://government.zdnet.com/?p=5279 [06:32] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [06:34] ok.. screw google.. i like stand-alone akregator [06:35] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:37] crudo (n=0xdead@189.81.203.102) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:40] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [06:42] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:43] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [06:45] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:47] BringingSexyBack (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:50] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [06:52] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [06:52] hi [06:54] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:56] JaWiX (n=JaWiX@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [06:56] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [06:56] jawix (n=jawix@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [06:58] whoa... first time slackware ever went this quiet [06:59] Action: TwinReverb stabs missyjane [07:00] missyjane: nope - I see it many nights/mornings [07:01] (or rather, don't see it :) ) [07:01] Action: missyjane looks at the flesh wound and shrugs [07:01] :) you never seen to be off slackware so.. [07:01] depends on which one you look at :) the home system is pretty much on all the time (except when verizon decides to burp my ip) [07:03] she has a new cloak [07:05] Quiznos: ? [07:05] look at it. mj now, was love. [07:05] alisonken1noc, iim actually concerned about that [07:06] greetings missyjane [07:06] missyjane: what's the concern? [07:06] about you alicephilippa, how can you keep your pc up 24/7 :x even i reset mine after once in a while [07:06] Action: missyjane waves to slackytude [07:06] errrr sorry alicephilippa i mean alisonken1noc [07:07] missyjane: other than running Slackware with decent firewall and settings? [07:07] my dsl modem runs through a wireless router that's set to disable all network access except for machines I explicitly allow, but even then, I use a slackware box for the home desktop [07:08] alisonken1noc, i mean hardware failures [07:09] typically, hardware failures are because machines are turned off/on too many times. normally, computers that stay on all of the time have less issues due to heating/cooling of chips [07:10] consistent temps for chips typicallly prolong life [07:10] so the fact i keep my pc on all the time with a few exceptions... is ok? [07:10] so for me, the cost of leaving a light on 24/7 means I have less computer issues [07:10] im just also worried about electric bill, how is it holding up for you? [07:11] as long as you're not doing 24/7 heavy duty ops like compiles, it equates to leaving a 150w light bulb on all of the time [07:12] D:..... [07:12] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-fdciufdwdbwieuto) joined ##slackware. [07:12] thats really really really strong [07:12] strong? [07:12] light-wise yes, but power-wise, not too bad [07:12] yeah i think 150w is a lot [07:12] morning [07:13] whats someone from mandriva doing here? :D [07:13] need to find kW hour rate to get cost. [07:13] alisonken1noc, just curious but dont answer if you dont want to, do you know how much your computer cost you in your electric bill? [07:13] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:14] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:15] my ac house unit $2/day [07:15] but i dont run it 24/7 [07:16] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [07:16] missyjane: http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/howmuch.html [07:17] H1llo! [07:17] using the national average of $0.12 and 150W (computer + 17" lcd), about $13.44/month [07:17] wow nice [07:17] i think i can afford that... [07:18] since I have powersave on the monitor (and the wife keeps turning it off when she thinks no one is using it), probably a little less [07:18] your wife is cute lol [07:18] missyjane: I'm a spy ( - - ) [07:18] is it just me, or "Mr. Electricity" on that page link looks like Tiny Tim? [07:19] missyjane: ? don't think you've seen her picture yet :) [07:19] I think she's cute, though [07:19] adrien (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:19] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:23] Im guessing here, but the fact that you think she's cute probably explains she is your wife in the first place [07:24] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:24] Nick change: adrien -> Camarade_Tux [07:25] 4 hours to go [07:25] and Im hungry [07:26] juste ate [07:26] bread, egg, cheese, ham :) [07:27] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:28] slackytude: :) [07:28] roast beef, cheese, mayo sandwitch on wheat for me [07:29] Camarade_Tux, -_- [07:29] alisonken1noc, -_- [07:30] :) [07:30] ;) [07:30] and one more to go [07:31] http://tuxradar.com/content/linux-vs-windows-7 [07:31] interesting graphic with tux on that one [07:33] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [07:34] unfortunately it rates the performance of the python interpreter [07:35] unfortunately, true [07:36] http://www.tuxradar.com/files/wallpapers/sttf-thumb.jpg ^^ [07:37] good one :) [07:37] i actually wonder about linuxs future with windows 7 coming in [07:37] i heard nothing but good things about windows s7 [07:38] yeah, it's good [07:38] been the same tune for several iterations. the only difference is that 7 actually appears to have some basis in reality this time [07:38] Netu (i=JungleCa@212.90.71.82) joined ##slackware. [07:42] mtyfull (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-gjzxzrafpvexnbkb) joined ##slackware. [07:43] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:44] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:44] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [07:46] nheco (n=nheco@200.180.136.245) joined ##slackware. [07:47] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:48] first bugs and annoyances have already surfaced in win7 [07:48] is that something you didnt expect?! [07:48] lol [07:48] but linux does its own thing. it wont go away because win7 is great [07:48] you like win7? :P [07:49] slackytude, lol linux have bugs too [07:49] its not bad [07:49] alisonken1noc, im afraid of that, oh well [07:49] sure [07:49] there have been lots of [07:50] oses in the past and there will be more [07:50] linux..has and always will be there [07:50] missyjane: well, it was bound to happen - ms actually get something close to reality after 30 years :) [07:50] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [07:50] lol windows xp and nt were both close to reality [07:51] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:51] missyjane: what , they nearly worked? [07:51] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-192-215.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:51] mtyfull, lol id ont know what he meant when he said that i assuemd he meant good [07:52] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:52] assuming is something women do, that gets them all in trouble ;) (just joking) ... ;) [07:53] on the other hand, i do agree that if you were to compare ms software, xp and nt/2000 were their best job [07:53] lol :) mtyfull thats why we all should have a man [07:54] missyjane: thank god for that, i hope you say that loud to ALL the women [07:54] lol :x but women need to find responsible men [07:54] like alisonken1noc [07:55] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [07:56] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:57] is that like hitting on him openly in a technical channel? (sorry alisonken1noc ) [07:57] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:57] mtyfull: not the first time and she's not the first :) [07:57] lol alisonken1noc is a player, a manwhore :x [07:58] alisonken1noc: glad to hear that man [07:58] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [07:58] missyjane: shhh - my wife might be watching at home :) [07:58] lol [07:58] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:58] Nick change: mtyfull -> The-Croupier [07:59] i see, so you are married, and a player,,,, my kind of friend.. ;) [07:59] lol [07:59] The-Croupier: online only, though [08:00] alisonken1noc: you are officially my best friend [08:00] :) [08:00] alisonken1noc: if something happens, noone,i mean noone ever has a 1/100000000 chance to find out... ;) i bet "online only" part might change [08:01] ;) [08:01] The-Croupier: been tried, but I'm pretty much monogamous - easier than trying to keep up with what's needed to keep everyone happy [08:03] keeping them happy is the easy part, ;) [08:03] :) [08:03] not getting caught is the hard part [08:03] Action: The-Croupier has a bad memory :( [08:04] Memory is cheap nowadays. [08:04] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:04] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-pqitousitzfctckj) left irc: [08:05] lol, yes but motherboards arent..;) [08:05] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [08:05] caio__ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [08:05] i think god made this one in china, and shiped it to greece [08:06] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:08] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left ##slackware. [08:08] guys, is there a site, or anything that we can have a look of known current things to fix? [08:09] The-Croupier, the guys in the far east are still fighting, why not start with that [08:09] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:09] slackytude: ?! [08:10] The-Croupier, thats a know currecnt issue that needs fixin [08:10] haha [08:10] i see. :( [08:11] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:11] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [08:12] hi i performed a slackpkg upgrade-all and installed the latest kernel because of the recent vulnerability. My linux source/headers are pointing to version 2.6.27.31 however my loaded kernel is 2.6.27.7 looking in /boot i cannot see the newer kernel? [08:13] go away gaz you are making me feel guilty [08:13] lol [08:13] ? :p [08:15] lol i have... i shouldnt say this but.. never updated this slackware >< [08:15] caio__ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:16] missyjane: if it's any consolation, I know someone that's still running slackware 8.0 :) [08:17] alisonken1noc: that guy must be a complete guru... [08:17] The-Croupier: thank you [08:17] (I admin it for him :) ) [08:17] nice ;) [08:17] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:18] isn't your vmlinuz sym linked in /boot gaz? [08:18] it is but to the old kernel its like it never bothered installing the new kernel [08:18] which is unsual [08:18] hm.. im gonna risk it then [08:18] ill install slackpkg now [08:18] im gonna download the kernel package manually [08:19] oh no [08:19] http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=slackpkg&sv=12.1 [08:19] cp your kernel from the new source to /boot gaz [08:19] um [08:19] slackpkg is not on SBo.... [08:20] well where can i get it? :x i got slackpkg a long time ago from somewhere but i forget where [08:20] slackytude: I had a bug in win7 beta: downloading a file from ftp with IE8 gave a blue screen :D [08:20] s/beta/rc [08:20] I didn't have that in beta [08:20] missyjane: /ap or /extra [08:20] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [08:20] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:20] hm? i did a full install pprkut [08:20] wrong - gaz- just check out if your /boot/vmlinuz is pointing to the right kernel (vmlinuz-2.6.29.31) [08:21] missyjane: full install doesn't do /extra stuff [08:21] appzer0: its pointing to the old kernel but the new kernel is not in /boot [08:21] it's not appzer00 [08:21] which is why i am puzzled [08:21] the source is in /usr/src [08:21] pprkut, so ill just put my cd in, mount it, then find the package there? [08:21] pprkut: because slackpkg is on the slackware cd [08:21] missyjane: yes, you might want to look in /patches as well [08:22] alisonken1noc: yes, that's what I meant with my statement ;) [08:22] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [08:22] gaz- did you install the whole set of kernel-* packages in a/ series? [08:22] pprkut: sorry - was trying to click on missyjane and the scroller kicked in :) [08:22] hehe i understand [08:23] alisonken1noc: :) [08:23] gaz-: not only the kernel-source package in k/ is enough [08:23] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:24] brb gonna reboot just installed kernel-generic-smp-2.6.27.7_smp-i686-1 [08:24] wrong 1 [08:24] kernel-huge-smp-2.6.27.31_smp-i686-1 [08:24] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:24] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:28] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:28] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [08:28] sorry xchat crasehd [08:29] gbowden (n=gbowden@8.Red-83-37-236.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [08:30] what are/were the reasons for not putting selinux in slackware (by default) ? [08:31] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:32] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89B45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:33] Elektro (n=Elektro@85.84.206.90) joined ##slackware. [08:33] lol [08:33] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.70.32) joined ##slackware. [08:34] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:34] missyjane: slackpkg.org [08:34] missyjane: use konversation instead of xchat. much better :) [08:35] The-spiki, :) sorry im gonna get it from my cd i think [08:35] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.88.15.2) joined ##slackware. [08:35] or irssi and screen [08:35] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:36] irssi \\o irssi o// irssi \o/ [08:36] actually I don't really care about irssi, the nice part is screen : ) [08:36] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:36] hmm.. bugger.. cause these disks are h/w raid, i cant check their SMART or temp :/ [08:36] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:36] SlackWeird (n=ecnrdoi@unaffiliated/slackwared) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:37] yes screen is very nice [08:37] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:38] i'm becoming sick of tryin to make elinks; wont compile. gcc doesnt have good error catching to tell me what the real prob is. [08:39] Quiznos: works fine here [08:39] works ok here too but i can fkn compile it [08:39] cant [08:39] compiles fine here [08:39] gbowden_ (n=gbowden@203.Red-81-44-121.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [08:39] dumb coder rewrite the bsearch as a macro [08:39] rewrote [08:40] error within macro but cant see it [08:40] and macro isused only once [08:40] stoopit [08:40] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89B45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [08:40] which version 0.11.7? [08:40] 12.git [08:41] im using 0.12pre5 and compiles fine [08:41] tried 13.git; that too wont compile [08:41] nheco (n=nheco@200.180.136.245) left irc: "Saindo" [08:42] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:43] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) joined ##slackware. [08:43] hrm [08:43] slack machine frooze [08:43] this is not good [08:43] omigosh! [08:43] i just found what i want [08:43] http://www.nuloop.com/en/dj-equipment/item/59611/mixers/korg_zero_4.html [08:43] giiiiiiiiiimmmeeeeeeeeee!!!!!! [08:44] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-fdciufdwdbwieuto) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:45] very cheap [08:45] tewmten: are you french? [08:45] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-jqolupcisrbxwjun) joined ##slackware. [08:45] justin` (n=justin`@unaffiliated/justin) joined ##slackware. [08:46] sahko: no, are you? [08:47] tewmten: no, but i wouldnt think anyone would actually buy anything from nuloop if he werent french [08:49] why not? [08:50] its expensive [08:51] see for example http://www.nuloop.com/en/dj-equipment/item/29945/4-6_channels/allen__heath_xone_464.html VS. http://www.thomann.de/gb/allenheath_xone464_djmixer.htm?sid=5ea4026e1dbc1c010a5cf7b2fa9d4a4b [08:52] Reav___ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [08:53] but thomann doesnt have that korg you linked to [08:56] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:56] gbowden (n=gbowden@8.Red-83-37-236.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:56] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:56] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [08:58] woo .. got 3ware smart testing sorted.. now for temps :/ [08:59] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [09:00] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [09:05] Elektro (n=Elektro@85.84.206.90) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:07] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [09:09] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [09:12] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-197-243.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:13] grazymax (n=grazymax@host254-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:13] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:24] blah I should buy a new thinkpad but i hate spending money [09:24] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-gjzxzrafpvexnbkb) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [09:24] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-200-76.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:24] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [09:25] justin`, then sell it [09:25] then steal one [09:25] steal? >:( [09:26] Zordrak, via SNMP? [09:26] missyjane: borrow [09:26] oh yeah.. i been here before [09:26] alisonken1noc: but more expensive than your tongue >< [09:26] mejor deja vu [09:27] slackytude: remind me.. :) [09:27] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:27] Zordrak, you query the UPS via SNMP? [09:27] theres no snmp server as theres no mgmt card.. i do have powerchute installed [09:28] grazymax (n=grazymax@79.9.154.32) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:28] hrm, never had to deal with that [09:29] this one's only ridiculously expensive, not superluminarily expensive.. so doesnt come with card :) [09:30] Zordrak, does it run on a win server? [09:30] Camarade_Tux: :) and not as much fun to boot [09:30] slackytude: HEYLL no.. slack13-current x86_64 [09:30] gbowden_ (n=gbowden@203.Red-81-44-121.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:31] Zordrak, so why not have nagios ssh into that machine and query state [09:31] alisonken1noc: but you can also get several kinds of sweets, put them on the drive, see which ones melt, compare with the melting point table you have preparred and finally eat all the sweets :) [09:31] hah [09:31] wellits the state query thats the issue [09:32] r_linux (n=r_linux@200.225.95.150) joined ##slackware. [09:32] heh, let me guess the app doesnt provide a decent API for that [09:32] theres nothing to check it with but the webinterface (that i have found so far) [09:32] I've already tried melt schmurfs, tastes over-sweet [09:32] Zordrak, thats great [09:32] melt gummy berschen too (/me checks how you actually write that) [09:33] gummibärchen [09:33] heh# [09:33] Action: Camarade_Tux has to fix his encoding which magically failed [09:34] hmm - all of the ps's I've checked were standard serial i/o checks [09:34] I take it it's an 'ss'? [09:35] slackytude: normally id just leave it to monitor itself with the email notification... but i need an SMS if theres a problem and its nagios that does that [09:38] hungry! ='( [09:38] Zordrak, so have it sent an email to a user on the nagios machine [09:39] that depends on email being up.. [09:39] which is whole other service [09:39] on a whole other host [09:39] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:39] hrm [09:40] plus that gives me no confidence that its ox [09:40] *ok [09:40] because im only assuming its ok, not checking [09:41] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [09:41] I guess you could make a script to scrape the webinterface [09:41] Nick change: fau_ -> fAu [09:41] grazymax (n=grazymax@host101-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:41] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:44] slackytude: pita.. requires a login [09:45] is that really the biggest problem? lynx can do that, afaik [09:45] hey [09:45] hm nvm [09:45] still a pita.. if there *is* another way.. [09:46] oh, no argument [09:46] it is a pita [09:47] if it werent frigging java......... [09:47] the webserver? [09:47] yeah.. [09:47] its about 4 lines of code just to start it up [09:47] ah, great [09:48] there has to be another way.. it speaks to the UPS on ttyS0 [09:48] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:48] just need to find info on the comms [09:49] uh [09:49] sloinn (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-bnkrfpyqrfjfablt) joined ##slackware. [09:49] redtricycle (n=redtricy@ppp-68-120-198-189.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:49] I dunno [09:50] wobbles_ (n=huntsman@C-59-101-147-3.mel.connect.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [09:50] you know what protocol they use? [09:50] Id rather try to parse the webform [09:50] is there anybody aware of when public release will be out ? [09:50] Action: slackytude throws a D20 [09:50] 5 weeks [09:51] for pat's 80th birthday :) [09:51] I hope you are not kidding [09:51] hmm... networkupstools.org [09:51] sloinn: it will be out when it is out. ttfn [09:53] lucs (n=lucs@modemcable052.192-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) left ##slackware. [09:53] Zordrak: one of the page linked from the website you gave has links to "dating with children" :D [09:53] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [09:53] lol [09:54] (it's domain parking) [09:55] the mplayer subtitle font is too big [09:55] does anyone know how to make it smaller? [09:55] man mplayer [09:55] >< [09:56] -subfont (FreeType only) Sets the subtitle font (see -font). If no -subfont is given, -font is used. [09:57] only cause im using gmplayer [09:57] is mplayer still around? [09:58] their website doesn't resolve [09:58] oh it just loaded finally nm [09:58] farchanjo (n=Brazil@g3.alog.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:59] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:59] missyjane, you're in luck: run gmplayer and then go to its graphical configuration section and do it there [09:59] couldn't be easier [10:00] well, i guess it could ... it could've read your mind and reconfigured itself [10:00] i know i know i just didnt know what font to use :x i shouldve said that [10:00] Liberation Sans 8-) [10:00] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-17-56.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:01] nheco (n=nheco@201-40-186-3.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:02] vade retro satanas! [10:02] OOH wait i found it font scale [10:02] notsay (n=hellokoo@117.23.163.72) joined ##slackware. [10:03] notsay (n=hellokoo@117.23.163.72) left ##slackware. [10:04] 32C, I'm dying [10:04] grazymax (n=grazymax@host101-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:05] @#$ vista [10:05] why of all days on a simple ntfs partition resize can it not find winload.exe ? [10:05] now i need a vista cd to fix vista [10:05] yeah, ops on windows system partitions often do that [10:06] @#$ conspiracy [10:06] anyone have winload.exe on a vista machine? 8-) [10:06] grazymax (n=grazymax@host82-22-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:08] maybe TwinReverb [10:08] powtrix (n=powtrix@189.69.18.120) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:08] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [10:10] TwinReverb, -> #windows [10:11] slackytude: read phdcomics? [10:13] BringingSexyBack (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [10:16] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:17] Camarade_Tux, nope [10:18] slackytude: gotta love it :) [10:18] Action: slackytude checks [10:18] .com [10:19] grazymax (n=grazymax@host82-22-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:19] sid77 (n=sid77@88.149.157.90) joined ##slackware. [10:20] looks good on first glance [10:20] gotta call this customer first tho [10:22] benkong2 (n=benkong2@cpe-024-163-044-169.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:22] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-214-36-103.lnse4.win.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:22] hey guys, what's the best way to handle blutooth? [10:22] not [10:22] sloinn (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-bnkrfpyqrfjfablt) left irc: "Page closed" [10:23] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:23] is that blueman gtk any good? [10:25] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:26] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:26] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:27] ok so anyone got ideas for locking down a multi-user slackware installation? 8-) [10:27] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.70.32) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:27] unplug it. [10:28] other than that 8-P [10:28] telinit 1? [10:28] other than that 8-P [10:28] jawix (n=jawix@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [10:29] chmod -r everything ? [10:29] tempting but no [10:31] dusty_ (n=dusty@174.37.216.194) left irc: "leaving" [10:32] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [10:32] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-214-36-103.lnse4.win.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [10:32] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:33] grazymax (n=grazymax@87.13.247.154) joined ##slackware. [10:33] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) joined ##slackware. [10:33] look up security notes on hardening a linux server (regardless of distro)? [10:34] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) joined ##slackware. [10:35] grazymax (n=grazymax@87.13.247.154) left irc: SendQ exceeded [10:35] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) left irc: Client Quit [10:38] install grsec, make / read-only, wipe /home on every boot and fill it with stuff from /skel [10:39] ^-^ [10:39] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [10:39] john_dee (n=id@93-81-141-157.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:40] what is default these days .Xresources or .Xdefaults? [10:41] I have to run xrdb -merge .Xdefaults as an autostart to get aterm to use my bashrc. [10:45] :q [10:45] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@vpn.cusonet.net) left irc: "leaving" [10:48] what is slackware's cli install tool for 3rd party apps? [10:49] there isn't one (an official one), there is the excellent sbopkg though. [10:49] I thought we had switched to .msi files [10:49] sbopkg ~= something like yum? [10:49] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [10:50] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [10:50] lee___: no, like slackpkg [10:51] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:51] lee___: http://www.sbopkg.org/ [10:52] reading sbopkg.org now .. thought slackpkg was limited to slackware distro packages .. [10:52] Nick change: brbrbr|br -> brbrbr [10:53] slackytude, um ok so /skel is just /skel or /etc/skel ? [10:53] lee___: so is sbopkg - except it uses std slackbuild scripts to create slackware packages [10:53] BringingSexyBack, /etc/skel [10:53] gbowden (n=gbowden@203.Red-81-44-121.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [10:56] slackytude, so basically if i set up the user entirely as it should be, to make it permanent, make /etc/skel/ identical to /home/user ? [10:56] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [10:56] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [10:56] so there's nothing like apt-get that can be installed for slackware? [10:57] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:57] lee___: if you need dependency resolution this bad ... perhaps slackware is not for you. [10:57] the main question is the repository you'd fetch from, any you'd trust [10:57] and BP{k}++ [10:57] good point, but and trying to learn. [10:57] slackbuilds are better anyway imho [10:58] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [10:58] all i've done so far is download source and compile .. was just thinking I was going about it the long way [10:58] it seems debian even patches robots! (and changes its behaviour) [10:58] lee___: and make install ? [10:58] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:58] Camarade_Tux yeah [10:59] lee___: you want to use slackbuilds instead, they'll create a clean package [10:59] make install will be terrible, it installs without any track [10:59] s [10:59] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) joined ##slackware. [11:01] thanks Camarade_Tux, reading about it now [11:03] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:03] BringingSexyBack, aye [11:05] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: [11:05] http://networkedblogs.com/p8994938 [11:05] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:05] SiegeX- (i=SiegeX@c-76-102-150-28.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:05] nlhisto (n=nlhisto_@afck227.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:05] benkong2 (n=benkong2@cpe-024-163-044-169.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:08] Does sshd produce logs? [11:08] lee___, theres plenty of aps like it, but most slackers avoid it like the plauge [11:08] ccfreak2k : logs? yes. [11:08] ccfreak2k: generally logs to syslog [11:11] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [11:12] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:12] samuelig (n=samuelig@94.pool85-57-129.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [11:13] grah being single [11:13] grahaarahgarag [11:14] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89B45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:14] sidmario (n=xxx@200.158.63.127) joined ##slackware. [11:14] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) joined ##slackware. [11:15] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [11:16] SiegeX (i=SiegeX@unaffiliated/siegex) left irc: Connection timed out [11:16] wheres my god damn rebound [11:17] Action: Zordrak unpacks Rachael and goes hunting for the puncture repair kit [11:18] lol red drarf [11:18] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-89.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:19] xxjx_ (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [11:19] can Slackware Linux play most DVDs as-is or do i need to install some extras? [11:19] BringingSexyBack: i remember you [11:20] i cant remember what it was you did, but i dont like you. [11:20] so i'm going to tell you try it for yourself. [11:20] lee___ (n=_lee__@ip70-191-236-69.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com" [11:21] lol [11:21] Nick change: BringingSexyBack -> TwinReverb [11:21] 8-P [11:21] also because my 4.5 year relationship ended recently, and i'm drunk, if you dont try it for yourself i'm going to start abusing you. [11:21] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:21] sorry to hear that =/ [11:21] Camarade_Tux: it was mutual and for the best. [11:22] define relationship [11:22] spook: I see but must hurt still =/ [11:22] a bit but i cant really pin down why. [11:23] nheco (n=nheco@201-40-186-3.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:23] TwinReverb: a sexual relationship with your wife. [11:23] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:23] was this your wife or your girlfriend? [11:24] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.97) joined ##slackware. [11:24] your wife, my girlfriend. [11:24] threesome? [11:24] Camarade_Tux: same person [11:25] wait, that was you TwinReverb [11:25] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:25] why cant people not change their nicks. [11:26] why can't wifi not go down all the time? [11:26] TwinReverb: what wireless card? [11:27] http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:LotusSuper7.jpg I want! [11:28] hahaha thats small [11:28] Nick change: xxjx_ -> xxjx [11:28] it's not slackware's fault, it's this ISP's network and this location's krappy routers [11:29] arent you in the middle east? [11:29] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) joined ##slackware. [11:29] cigarettesmoker (n=nika@212.45.14.5) joined ##slackware. [11:29] pupit: wanna buy me one? :) [11:29] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lotus_Driving_School_Cars.JPG [11:30] spook, south korea [11:30] Camarade_Tux: i wanna buy you :) [11:30] id that piece of material makes u happy.. [11:31] s/id/if [11:31] pupit: deal! :D [11:31] :D [11:32] TwinReverb: i hate you [11:32] "cant buy me love love love" [11:32] can can can ;) [11:33] real love is forever: http://api.ning.com/files/dMuK6zapfPMmPOajKG2gdrEyp5QoCXwBOrhqnTo7bfomevbzOImmcYBtS7fZQxaz4y-R7i9VRnMc3Io5VZLiRozmtrA0H5FS/2009060656975.jpg [11:34] spook, God bless you [11:34] pupit: hmmmm [11:34] pupit: can I have some more fale love? [11:34] s/fale/false/ [11:35] there is some false love, [11:35] TwinReverb: god hates you too [11:35] spook: Jesus loves you [11:35] TwinReverb: amin [11:35] :D [11:35] pupit: fuck you religious [11:35] :D [11:35] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [11:36] spook: dont be so rude, jesus loves you [11:36] cna you feel it? [11:36] pupit: no, jesus hates me because you're the devil. [11:36] s/cna/can [11:36] interesting... [11:37] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.156.158) joined ##slackware. [11:37] diabolix (n=jsoyke@c-24-3-121-83.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] pupit: you and jesus had gay sex. [11:38] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:38] spook: me-devil and jesus had sex? [11:38] how old are u? [11:38] behave kid. [11:38] older than you. [11:39] behave [11:39] pupit: you're the one who needs to behave. [11:39] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.216) joined ##slackware. [11:39] both of you time out. ty. [11:40] pupit: you're the worst kind of religious person, the kind that tries to force their belief on others [11:40] i don't see the forcing of belief, i see someone trying to wish you well [11:40] jesus loves me? thats great. keep that information to yourself. [11:40] i see you cussing people out and him trying to bless you. hmm.... [11:40] TwinReverb: then wish me well, rather than making me get drunkenly angry at your religious crap [11:41] which is better? to cuss people out or to try and be nice to them? [11:41] please vote by using /ignore [11:41] done. :) [11:42] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [11:42] back to our regularly scheduled drivel [11:42] oh joy - learn of a new program I could do with, worry that it might not be supported for half a moment, fire up sbopkg and bam, done and dusted [11:43] i just wish the 13.0 repository would be made public already [11:43] Action: theblackbox just thought he'd share his warm fuzzy feeling with everyone [11:43] let's love each other, let's rejoice my friends! \o/ [11:44] ananke, had fun with the windows vista poisoning yet? i.e. the "can't find winload.exe" when there's like 10 copies of it on the partition? 8-) [11:44] wonder what program god uses to read his prayers [11:44] mac mail [11:44] not yet. letting our helpdesk figure out the kinks [11:45] mrselfpwn: MS Outlook. That's why no one gets replies [11:45] lol, mutt all the way [11:45] all good, all knowing, all powerful. [11:45] lol, [11:45] hes only the last two. [11:45] TwinReverb: if it's like lilo, it doesn't matter you can see it on the disk [11:45] and his 'D' key is all worn out ;) [11:45] Camarade_Tux, huh? [11:46] oh you mean that it points to a physical location on the drive? [11:46] TwinReverb: I mean that you want to fixboot/fixmbr [11:46] a win7 dvd could do it too (grab it for free) [11:47] d key is worn out from 4chan.org/d/ [11:47] yeah i need to fixmbr [11:47] i will probably try win7 then [11:47] If my network hardware is causing things such as checksumming issues, what log would I look at to identify this? [11:48] i don't think you can get it from the official microsoft site anymore TwinReverb, win7 that is. [11:48] checksum at what level? layer 2? [11:48] you can get win7 on msdnaa [11:49] mrselfpwn, i have a friend who has a copy [11:49] spook, wherever. SSH is having issues, so I'm trying to figure out if it's a hardware problem or not. [11:50] ifconfig perhaps [11:51] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-uuklrdqncyekndwe) left irc: "oh yay, get to ride in da automobile!" [11:51] dropped packets etc [11:51] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-eewomtybhjaczdym) joined ##slackware. [11:51] Hmm. [11:52] /proc/sys/net maybe also [11:53] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [11:53] well gcc failed to compile [11:53] Is that ironic? [11:54] No, i was definitely expecting it. [11:54] gcc compile is so dirty >< [11:55] Are you familiar with "checking for suffix of object files... configure: error: cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile" ? [11:55] are you compiling it by hand? [11:55] erk [11:55] hiptobecubic: maybe --host and --target [11:57] Camarade_Tux, --host is x86_64 and target is x86 [11:57] hiptobecubic: the full triplet? [11:57] hiptobecubic: also, see config.log [11:57] the full triplet? you mean --build also? [11:58] hiptobecubic: no, I mean i686-pc-slackware(-linux) [11:58] or not that one [11:58] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.70.32) joined ##slackware. [11:58] config.log: http://gist.github.com/173937 [11:58] target was set to --target=i686-slackware-linux [11:58] diabolix (n=jsoyke@c-24-3-121-83.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:58] which it then apparently automatically changed to i686-slackware-linux-gnu [11:59] which is ok [11:59] I thought so. [11:59] but I don't see the error you mentionned in your paste [12:00] --with-mpfr=/usr/local ? [12:00] me either. although it just happened so i don't know why it's not in there [12:00] hiptobecubic: tried crosstools-ng? [12:00] er just /usr, i guess [12:00] someone make me noodles [12:01] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:01] spook: I can do that but if you don't come eat them, I'll do :) [12:01] Camarade_Tux: are you making a pass at me? [12:01] Camarade_Tux, kind of. I don't think i did it properly. I'll try it again. For the record i was just look at this http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream#Cross-Compiling_using_icecream [12:02] spook: didn't understand your sentence [12:03] Camarade_Tux: are you hitting one me [12:03] i think you should listen to my mpfr suggestion [12:04] spook: well, can you come to France before the noodles get cold? :D [12:04] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-jqolupcisrbxwjun) left irc: [12:04] i wouldnt go to france if there were a 100 hot chicks waiting for me. [12:05] even if there were [12:05] and cross-compiling isn't hard, it's just annoying because things get mixed (like mpfr could have ) [12:05] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [12:05] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:05] spook: too bad, I'll take them for me [12:05] you can keep your dirty french women [12:05] dirty because they speak french [12:06] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [12:06] you mean hot because they speak french [12:06] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) joined ##slackware. [12:06] my new criteria for women doesnt require them to speak much at a ll [12:07] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) joined ##slackware. [12:07] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:07] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-89.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:07] spook just ordered two dozens of them http://theballwhisk.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/ball-gag-pink-webbing.jpg [12:08] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@68-25-227-63.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [12:08] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-171-107.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [12:08] Nick change: AnonymousRednek -> nyRednek [12:09] it is possible to reload the partition table after using cfdisk without having to reboot? [12:10] Camarade_Tux: http://www.extremerestraints.com/images/resized/s/st625d_338_325.jpg << my prefered variant [12:10] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [12:10] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) left irc: Connection timed out [12:11] q will exit w/o writing any changes, so next time you run it'll re-load the original (pre-changes that weren't saved) [12:12] if you didn't "W" then cfdisk didn't commit changes to disk [12:12] hmmm...armedslack [12:12] wonder when 13.0 will come out [12:12] well I didnt used cfdisk specifically [12:13] I just converted a freebsd partition to a xfs partition [12:13] ok, maybe you should ask your real question :) [12:13] spook: thanks, was looking for that shop (è( w-_- [12:13] only the kernel seems to be aware of the partition change, because I can mount the partition manually without problem but kde doesnt seems to be aware of that change [12:14] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03120.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.78.198) joined ##slackware. [12:14] ok, run fdisk /dev/whatev, then "p" to print the part table [12:14] enforce re-read partition table ? [12:15] is the partition type correct? [12:15] it still shows as a FreeBSD partition [12:16] LucasCes (n=lucas@189.7.66.222) joined ##slackware. [12:16] so it wasn't commited to disk [12:16] ah I think that I should change it to the right partition type ID [12:16] yes [12:17] "t" in fdisk [12:17] press t then 82 for linux [12:17] then w [12:18] actually use 83, 82 is swap [12:18] meh [12:21] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [12:22] kde still sees it as a freebsd partition [12:22] I guess I need to restart something [12:23] quit fdisk and re-run it, is the part table on disk? [12:23] i.e. did you "w" from fdisk after changing IDs? [12:23] yes [12:23] it shows now as Linux XFS [12:24] ok try: blockdev --rereadpt /dev/whatev [12:26] grazymax (n=grazymax@host207-55-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:28] it says device or resource busy [12:28] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.53.104.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [12:29] I think my network hardware (or driver, or the network stack) is silently corrupting packets. [12:29] maybe [12:29] Camarade_Tux, are you personally familiar with crosstool-ng? I, apparently, am not. [12:30] is the partition mounted? [12:30] hmmm, question, anyone know if I can use iptables on virtual IP's aswell, on like eth0:1 ? [12:30] im have mobo with packeck mangling NIC, whith ACPI and APIC was turned on [12:30] ccfreak, mucho errors? [12:30] spook: no [12:30] hiptobecubic: not with crosstools-ng but I cross-compile to windows [12:30] because MS and most HW manufacturers have same financial backend [12:30] brbrbr: yes, exactly [12:31] I think that I'm going to reboot or change runlevels [12:31] google "scientology" and "world domination" and "GI Joe" ;P [12:31] /kidding. maybe [12:31] mancha, ifconfig reports no errors or anything, but sshd is closing connections due to "bad packet length" and "corrupted MAC on input" as well as a binary I uploaded failing to run (I verified that it does indeed run on my own box). [12:31] brbrbr: are you drunk? [12:32] spook why im should ? :) [12:32] brbrbr: i am! [12:33] maybe they're leaving ok and arriving screwey [12:33] check packet fragmentation [12:33] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [12:33] and gateway capabilities[required mtu/mru] [12:33] hi all [12:33] why don't you analyze your outgoing packets [12:33] hi [12:33] yes, it could be a difference in size issue [12:34] try lowering the mtu on your interface [12:34] Action: brbrbr dont drink alcohol, sadly. even on online party's ;) [12:34] my todo right now is: "buy beer" [12:34] Camarade_Tux: i have beer here, come get it you frensh person [12:36] spook: I only drink good beer -_- [12:36] nlhisto (n=nlhisto_@afck227.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:36] Reav___ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:36] Action: brbrbr have body, which reject alcohol(especially brain). except small disages of fruit/xxberry-based, rarely :/ [12:37] "good beer" in sound like dream in some countries, sadly ;) [12:37] my body seems to absord everything [12:37] Camarade_Tux: its very good beer, [12:37] beer good. [12:38] work bad [12:38] spook: just mail it then :D [12:38] Action: spook is defriending friends of his ex on friendface [12:38] body pwns you [12:38] nlhisto (n=nlhisto_@cmy104.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:39] i'm too sexy for this [12:40] haha [12:40] -) [12:40] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) joined ##slackware. [12:40] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:40] mrselfpwn: Tell that to your boss. :P [12:41] bootstrap (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) left irc: "network problems" [12:41] he'd slap me across the room [12:41] i work with my dad [12:41] lol [12:41] oh, haha, better keep quiet then. :P [12:43] quick, paste all your collection of nsfw links! [12:43] Action: Camarade_Tux pokes fire|bird [12:43] y0 Camarade_Tux [12:43] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:43] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [12:45] greetings hitest [12:45] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:45] hi fire|bird:) [12:46] how are you? [12:46] hitest: great, thanks. you? [12:47] fire|bird: great, ty:) Just installed -current using alienBOB's iso [12:48] worked like a charm [12:48] \o/ [12:48] :) [12:48] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:50] Skywise (n=noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) joined ##slackware. [12:50] hey guys [12:50] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC03120.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:51] ðø [12:51] hi [12:51] hi [12:51] i'm have a problem with getting synflooded and syncookies isn't helping [12:51] I'm trying to use crosstool-ng to build a compiler on i686-pc-linux-gnu for target x86_64-pc-linux-gnu but it only wants to let me pick uClibc instead of glibc. What does this mean and is anyone familiar with it? [12:51] Skywise: uhm..block it upstream [12:51] Besides that..deal with it [12:51] yeah i'm asking how [12:51] How..what? [12:52] Block it at the router before your router [12:52] well its not from a single ip [12:52] Call your ISP/NOc [12:52] NOC^ [12:52] Then nullroute [12:52] Again, has to be done upstream [12:52] and i'm sure the packets are spoofed [12:53] Doesn't really matter [12:53] i'm wondering if there is some way to throttle the transaction [12:53] No [12:53] Everything you need to do has to be done upstream [12:53] dartmouth (n=dartmout@24.25.172.165) joined ##slackware. [12:54] portscan-protection sw with auto-banning capabilities help. even against synflood [12:54] like psad and etc [12:54] brbrbr: not..really [12:54] friendface? [12:54] wtf is friendface? [12:54] i remember friendster, myspace, facebook, and twitter [12:54] if you bind it with some IDS, really [12:54] Again..not really [12:54] friendster is slightly pathetic, myspace is full of porn ads, i could never understand the appeal of facebook, and twitter users as a whole have no life [12:54] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:54] ok, i'll alert the isp, i thought there was some way maybe with iptables to thottle syn packets [12:54] If the synflood is using all of your bandwidth...none of that will help [12:55] Skywise: By the time it gets to your machine..it's already used the bandwidth [12:55] !ping [12:55] !pong [12:55] yeah, forward report for DoS assault to ISP was mandatory [12:55] to resolve it [12:56] well its eating up all my memory [12:56] and lawsuit, maybe :) [12:56] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:56] yeah, this is a website for lawyers [12:56] website ? which one ? [12:56] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] lol [12:57] mean, if police taskforce start investigating, they usually found DoS initiators, even if it take months, years [12:57] so thing about it, at least [12:57] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:57] bbiab [12:57] yeah, i've called the fbi before [12:57] fbi dont deal with it, usually [12:57] they come over, take logs and never hear from them again [12:58] NSA really perform that. FBI just store files, most time, because have lack of resources 4 that [12:58] especially HR [12:59] i'll see what the isp does and then escalate it [12:59] CeruleanC (n=Cerulean@unaffiliated/ceruleanc) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:59] note: ISP uplink diversification is mandatory too [13:00] dont stick to one ISP or even two [13:00] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:00] distributed would help, but botnets are so rampant, i doubt it would be cost effective [13:00] "isp does" ? they only shut off some sunnets access. they cant deal with DDoS otherways [13:01] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] most pirated W****s copies have botnet core, sophisticated enough, inside, already in medium :) [13:02] I uploaded then downloaded a text file 2MB exactly in size. [13:02] 30 bytes were corrupted in it. [13:02] try locate problem manually [13:02] yeah, windows ia a major part of the problem [13:02] mix hardware [13:02] are all your mtu's kosher? if not, are frags getting correctly handled? [13:02] change nic/router, tunnel traffic [13:03] how was it sent [13:03] in my experience, about 80% similar cases, was due to traffic fragmentation[lack of this] [13:03] beeeer ! [13:03] yeah, try set mtu to something marginal, like 1100 and test again :) [13:03] or 1300 at least ) [13:04] ' [13:04] Camarade_Tux, I have great respect for you getting any kind of cross compiler to do anything. At all. This seems hopeless. [13:05] hiptobecubic: nah, you always want a script for that [13:05] set it to 1492 [13:05] hiptobecubic: the reason is you *WILL* forget something [13:05] re [13:05] Camarade_Tux, i just tried using crosstool-ng and still failed. [13:05] hiptobecubic: error ? [13:06] has gnuc been updated in the past week? [13:06] don't think so [13:06] k [13:06] Quiznos: you mean glibc, right? [13:06] no cc [13:06] oh, not either ;) [13:06] k [13:07] is lcc sbo'd? [13:07] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [13:07] well, check ;) [13:08] i'm sick of this; i told sbo where to find the archive and it's fkng ignoring the path. [13:08] Camarade_Tux, it actually looks like a problem with crosstool-ng: http://dpaste.com/84677/ [13:08] suggestions to fix? [13:08] fire|bird: are you going to 2.6.31 when released? [13:08] it's also ignoring passwd patht oo [13:08] too [13:09] build it [13:09] hiptobecubic: has root rights? [13:10] yes [13:10] modprobe --list |wc -l [13:10] 42 [13:10] \o/ [13:10] ilaiho (i=ilaiho@xob.kapsi.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:11] ^^ [13:11] that's it? [13:11] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [13:11] hiptobecubic: that's a lot actually [13:11] 42 modules? [13:12] should have about 20, I tailor my kernels [13:12] but I have a few unsorted things so that makes lots of modules [13:12] I have 1069 [13:12] AFTER getting rid of things [13:12] glups :) [13:13] lol [13:13] well, gotta move :) [13:13] his kernel is running on deep thought [13:14] it tends to come up with the answer 42 more then one would expect [13:15] i'll install slackware in few minutes :) [13:17] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:17] laterz :) [13:18] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.53.104.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:20] mrselfpwn: yeah, probably. [13:20] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:21] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:22] i cant believe Im having this much trouble compilering src-packages [13:22] people are failing to write good Makefiles. 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[13:42] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:43] crap my console isnt blanking. [13:44] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [13:44] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "hard reboot" [13:44] setterm [13:46] i know how; i'm just wondering why its not doing so [13:46] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:46] been playing with /etc/rc.d? [13:46] not lately, theyre stable for me [13:46] fuly tweakd [13:46] the way i like em [13:48] "Alex, I can write that assembler generator in one function." [13:48] check your setterm in /etc/profile [13:48] ty [13:49] since noone is talking ill ask a ot question [13:49] do you guys believe that if we "believe" itll come true? i know it has been proven true in science (self fulfilling prophecy in psychology) [13:49] but do you guys feel that way? [13:50] missyjane: Yes to a degree. [13:50] psych is not science. [13:50] a man is his word. [13:50] "soft science" [13:50] what he says of himself happens; dont lie to yourself; that's basic biblical teaching. [13:50] Action: lf4 believes they can fly. :P [13:51] dont be self=decieving [13:51] I've been believing in Santa Clause since I was like... 2, but I've never seen that fat feller outside the mall [13:51] so we have no influence over reality? [13:51] quasar: You never saw him ringing a bell outside the mall? [13:51] i mean i cant "believe" that tomorrow wil be a better day? i cant hope for tomorrow to make the world a better day slowly? [13:52] this reality is temporary. God's going to make a new one. [13:52] she lacks hope. [13:52] missyjane: That's different but belief requires action as well. [13:52] lf4: nah, those are bell ringers for the salvation army... I've seen 'em in their regular clothes (my mother is a case manager for them) [13:52] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:52] she also cant read me; so feely quot me but dont identify the quot [13:52] quasar: Awe you dashed my hopes. [13:52] blame it on the Salvation Army [13:53] lol will do [13:53] haha [13:53] y0 lf4 [13:53] hey fire|bird [13:53] high fire [13:53] i can read you Quiznos lf4 thats my only fear, aabasically you just said "you cant influence anything but yourself" [13:53] hows it going? [13:53] lf4: How's it going? [13:53] lol, great here, thanks. [13:53] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@200.69.251.233) joined ##slackware. [13:53] MJ youwere sposed to ignore me! [13:54] fire|bird: It's going well I just finished installing 12.2 with my PXE server :D so I know all that works. [13:54] lf4: awesome [13:54] fire|bird: How is everything going with you? [13:54] missyjane you're confused and trying to resolve that confusion without god. that's insanity. [13:55] Karmic (n=tux@unaffiliated/karmic) joined ##slackware. [13:55] Quiznos, sorry i dont believe in god [13:55] lf4: doing excellent, thanks. My wifi router arrives tomorrow (UPS), right now it's friggen just sitting there in Des Moines, IA. :P [13:55] missyjane yea; that's your confusion. [13:55] Quetzalcoatl is coming ^^ BS! [13:55] lol [13:55] fire|bird: Haha oh fun. So will that improve your cable connection ;) [13:56] lf4: haha, I wish, but no, it won't, but it will give me wifi for the laptop. :D [13:56] Nick change: SiegeX- -> SiegeX [13:56] lf4: So then I can have both the desktop and laptop online and not have to switch cables all the time. [13:56] fire|bird: I just reconfigured mine as well. [13:56] fire|bird: You only had one RJ-45 conenctino? [13:58] lf4: yeah, just one. My setup is cable line into one cable modem then RJ-45 from modem to desktop (no router or anything), so I have to switch the cable if I want a different pc online, in this case, the laptop. :P [13:58] bleh i gotta stop being existentialist and start studying [13:58] lf4: Which can be a friggen pain in the rear. :/ [13:58] Action: lf4 hands fire|bird a dumb hub to use. [13:58] \o/ [13:58] fire|bird: I can imagine. [13:58] wait, why is it dumb? :P [13:59] give me a smart one dang it. :P [13:59] coz its not a switch [13:59] lol [13:59] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:59] y0 slackytude [13:59] ++ lol [13:59] half duplex ftw! [13:59] hey slackytude hows work been? [13:59] not too horrrible life-sucking for a monday [13:59] half duplex + 10Mb/s [14:00] slackytude: Thats good to hear. I don't want ot go to work tonight lol [14:00] lf4, you've been working as well? [14:00] slackytude: My monday is 11pm here lol so really I work more on tuesday but I still call it my monday. [14:00] nobody wants to go to work. its not supposed to be fun. if it were fun, you'd to pay entrance fee's [14:01] lf4, right, I always mess up your timezone [14:01] slackytude: It's cool :) I'm use to converting timezones. [14:01] utc ftw ;) [14:01] slackytude: I liked my Network Admin job :) I enjoyed that and never wanted to leave really. [14:02] howdy BP{k} [14:02] lf4, what happened? [14:02] y0 BP{k} [14:02] slackytude: moved to a different state. [14:02] hey BP{k} [14:02] oh [14:02] I was expecting zombies or sumthing [14:02] bye missyjane [14:02] kinda anti-climatic [14:02] bye Quiznos [14:03] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:03] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:03] slackytude: haha next time I'll say alien's :) [14:03] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [14:03] ^-^ [14:03] lf4, any reason for moving? [14:04] slackytude: When my father passed away I wanted my mom to be closer to all the family. [14:04] I see [14:04] "In headline news today, lf4's been abducted by aliens" "In other news, the aliens have dropped lf4 in a different state, they couldn't stand him any more, too many questions." [14:04] they couldnt stop him from playing with the computers [14:05] haha [14:05] LOL [14:05] aww is lf4 that cute? :D [14:05] "hey you, earthling, go away from that terminal" [14:05] DON'T HIT THE RED BUTTON, AH CRAP, HE DID. [14:05] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [14:05] haha [14:05] Action: missyjane reports that washington has been wiped clean from the map [14:05] See what you did lf4? Huh, do you? :P [14:05] Action: lf4 says if you want to avoid aliens just tell them you run Ubuntu and they get fear in their eyes like you carry some virus. [14:05] Washington is gone because of YOU. [14:05] \o/ [14:06] missyjane: wait, Washington D.C. or Washington State? [14:06] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [14:06] greetings NyteOwl [14:06] the one with congress in it [14:06] lol [14:06] fire|bird, was gonna ask the same [14:06] hiya [14:06] nothing of value was lost then [14:06] missyjane: hahaha I've never been called cute, just hot, or I could be in GQ mag. [14:07] D.C., eh, who cares. :P [14:07] lf4, really? can i see a pic? [14:07] missyjane: You show us your pic he'll show you his. :P [14:07] slackytude: :), great minds think alike? :P [14:07] i already showed mine to some ppl [14:07] missyjane: hummm lets see if I can find one, my systems are a little up in the air. [14:07] hey fire|bird How did you know I was a guy ;) [14:07] not comfortable with showing 279 of me [14:07] lf4: you levitate your pc's? :P [14:08] lf4: I took a guess. :P [14:08] fascinating technology [14:08] fire|bird: yeah :) magic all computers use magic. [14:08] Action: NyteOwl auditioned for Shrek but wasn't green enough [14:08] missyjane: lol I wouldn't either I'd PM you the link to see if I can find one. [14:08] :) [14:08] lf4: mine are all dumb, they don't use magic, they use guesswork. :P [14:08] NyteOwl: lol just get sick and try again. for the third movie :) [14:09] sigh im gonna try to find some food to eat im starving [14:09] NyteOwl: Didn't use enough paint? [14:09] i feel my chest tightening and my stomach burning [14:09] fire|bird: Awe learn the art of magic and you will be +Eleet+ [14:09] :O [14:09] fire|bird: no paint or makeup - just naturtal me :p [14:09] missyjane: Yeah probably would be good to get food. [14:09] haha [14:09] stomach burning, forget food, grab a fire extinguisher. :P [14:10] Action: lf4 gives NyteOwl a paint can of green paint [14:10] thanks [14:10] lf4: that's neon green you insensitive clod, what are you trying to do to him? :P [14:10] nuke ;) [14:10] Action: NyteOwl puts it in paintballs, gets out the paintball gun looks at the cvhannel with maniacal laughter [14:10] haha [14:10] NyteOwl: aim for lf4 [14:10] Action: lf4 grabs his mask and marker. [14:11] anyone wanna pay for my food? :( [14:11] Action: lf4 gives missyjane a penny :) [14:11] her's a virtual dollar [14:11] missyjane: depends how expensive. :P [14:11] $ [14:11] no :( paypal me real money [14:11] lol [14:11] lol [14:11] Action: NyteOwl doesn't use paypal [14:11] NyteOwl: good grief, I can tell from way over here that's fake money, what are you REALLY doing with the green paint, etc.? :P [14:12] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:12] fire|bird: wouldn't you like to know [14:12] Why yes, yes I would, just as long as the knowledge doesn't make me an accessory. :) [14:13] hi [14:13] grafiti [14:13] er grafitti [14:14] activist grafitti, but don't tell anyone [14:14] su -c "/etc/rc.d/rc.udev restart" :D [14:14] udevd_: dang, didn't work. :P [14:14] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:14] Do slackware's dvd have ntfsresize ;>? [14:14] fire|bird: yep [14:14] udevd_: How's it going? [14:14] fdisk can only remove ntfs partition, which i don't want to ;] [14:15] NyteOwl: Well, you just told 280 people, plus whoever looks at the logs. :P [14:15] i tried to searc programs like partition magic,but all i've found are demos [14:15] fire|bird: logs?!?! OHs nooos I am in trouble :P [14:15] not even shareware [14:15] heh no ididn't. I'm to old to be paining slogans on signs and buildings. can't run away when the cops show up so I elave that to the younger generation9s) [14:16] lf4: yeah, I've already turned you in, they haven't come and got you yet? :P [14:16] *sigh* can't even type today [14:16] udevd_: tried gparted live cd? [14:16] btw, who's distributing fake pics around? [14:16] fire|bird: hm. thank you. i forgot, that i've ubuntu livecd with gparted :) [14:16] NyteOwl: missyjane is, she's a career criminal. :P [14:16] thanks and bye :) [14:16] Action: lf4 ignites the thermite on the computers. [14:17] what?! ME!? [14:17] udevd_: you're welcome [14:17] missyjane: don't deny it. :P [14:17] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.88.15.2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:17] missyjane: lol fake picture? [14:17] lf4: WHOA, look at em blow up. :P [14:17] Action: fire|bird gets some marshmallows. [14:17] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:17] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:18] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:18] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [14:18] 99% of all pics on IRC claimed to be of the sender really aren't [14:18] NyteOwl: yup, googling a pic is WAY to easy. :P [14:18] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:18] NyteOwl: Awe you just dashed my hopes. I had a date this satruday from a girl I met on IRC :P [14:19] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:19] lf4: You were going to pay for missyjane's meal? :P [14:19] think what I saved her from :p [14:19] haha [14:20] NyteOwl: for example, here you are with your brother (or some relative): http://www.maxwaugh.com/images/cr05/owl.jpg [14:20] fire|bird: Yes, NyteOwl you just messed her dreams up. :P [14:20] NyteOwl: haha, yeah, no kidding. [14:20] s/dreams/nightmares/ [14:20] haha [14:20] hello again [14:20] udevd_: AHH, your back. :P [14:20] do someone know, where is my ubuntu livecd ;>? [14:20] Where you last put it? :P [14:21] Action: lf4 put it on the thermite pile [14:21] somewhere in my room [14:21] udevd_: Have a blank cd? You could make another one. :) [14:21] ; [14:21] > [14:21] fire|bird: oh that's me and PharmOwl from Dalnet :p [14:21] lf4: So that's the shrapnel that was flying at me. :P [14:21] fire|bird: i've 3g modem and download limit :/ [14:21] NyteOwl: Ah, ok. :P [14:21] udevd_: OUCH :P [14:22] fire|bird: nope that was something complete different. [14:22] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:22] but knoppix 3.6 too. do it have such program? [14:22] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:22] lf4: Do I dare ask? :P [14:22] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [14:22] udevd_: There is a gparted live CD that is really small. [14:22] udevd_: I think so, but can't remember. [14:22] lf4: how small ;>? [14:22] fire|bird: Not if you want to still live :) [14:22] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:22] Action: fire|bird doesn't ask [14:22] udevd_: I think its <10MB I'll check [14:23] I CHOOSE LIFE [14:23] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:23] udevd_: 98 MB [14:23] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [14:23] lf4: gosh your slow :P [14:24] udevd_: Never mind its about 98MB [14:24] http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/files/gparted-live-stable/ [14:24] :< [14:24] fire|bird: Hey I keep switching with my KVM :P trying to configure my new system. [14:24] but thanks for searching... [14:24] anyone knows of a repository with an updated bluez package? [14:24] fire|bird were you on your knees when you screamed "I CHOOSE LIFE"?? :) [14:24] i'll try to find some win program [14:25] Quiznos: no [14:25] fire|bird with your arms in the air with closed-fists? [14:25] udevd_: good luck. :) [14:25] udevd_: Good luck [14:25] aww man, you missed out :) [14:25] thanks [14:25] KAAAAAAAHN! [14:25] lol yea [14:25] darn it fire|bird quit typing so fast [14:25] Quiznos: You mean from King of Queens? :P [14:25] dint see that one [14:25] lf4: I can't, I feel the need for speed. :P [14:25] but i think i get the picture [14:25] Action: lf4 gets a walker to help him move around. [14:25] hahaha [14:26] lf4: Why not get a designated typist? I cute Swedish girl. :P [14:26] fire|bird, you are? [14:26] :D Yes yes I should [14:26] heh; i want one too [14:26] slackytude: a cute swedish girl? No :P [14:26] girl [14:26] heh [14:26] if fire|bird is a cute swedish girl I dont want one any more. [14:26] lol [14:26] lf4: You'll have to toss that walker away, she'll think you're a pathetic old guy. :P [14:27] i dont care what/where she's from [14:27] fire|bird: Done :) [14:27] lf4: hahahaha [14:27] gotta tawk engrish, redhead with green eyes and long hair with bangs. [14:27] i've found http://partitionlogic.org.uk/download/index.html [14:28] i'll go buy cd now :) [14:28] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:28] lf4: Will one of these work? http://media.photobucket.com/image/swedish%20girl/-Defender-/Swedish_Girls22919559-f899-42a7-a05.jpg [14:28] NyteOwl, thats why i do webcam [14:29] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [14:29] missyjane: not saying you do, but I've seen those faked too :) [14:29] It's fun anyway heh [14:30] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: "banzai !!" [14:30] NyteOwl, ya so have i, it sucks but most of these folks are folks with transsexual tendency, id leave them alone or just play along, it doesnt hurt you or them [14:30] whats the point in faking webcams? that sounds like work [14:30] nlhisto (n=nlhisto_@cmy104.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:30] ive met some of these folks in , they are testing the water so to speak [14:30] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.135.202) joined ##slackware. [14:30] fire|bird: cant I have the first two rows you can have the one behind them :) [14:30] slackytude, lol holy shit, fake webcam? how? [14:30] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:30] missyjane, wasnt NyteOwl saying that? [14:31] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:31] Action: slackytude is confuzed [14:31] Action: lf4 just lost where the conversation is going now about transsexual people? [14:31] slackytude, dunno, is he? [14:31] lf4: haha, sure you can have them all, I'll not have any of them, missyjane can have the bald dude. :P [14:31] missyjane: not saying you do, but I've seen those faked too :) [14:32] fire|bird, there was a bald dude? [14:32] Webcam's can be faked, replace live feed with pre-made video. [14:32] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:32] slackytude: in that link to lf4, yes. [14:32] slackytude: I didn't notice him right away either. :P [14:32] oh right [14:32] lol [14:32] you seem to have experience fire|bird, teach me [14:33] missyjane: no experience at all, just heard of, read about in the past. [14:33] missyjane: Why would you want to fake your cam feed? [14:33] bah read is unreliable [14:33] it would be hilarious [14:33] missyjane: not unreliable at all. [14:33] nlhisto (n=nlhisto_@acmn150.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:34] wow, the radio station is playing Armageddon. Haven't heard that in years. [14:34] Armageddon? [14:35] bird is the word! [14:35] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Client Quit [14:35] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:35] I am? :P [14:35] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZThquH5t0ow [14:35] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:36] giuppy (n=giuppy@host145-163-dynamic.26-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:36] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [14:36] LifeForce4: What have you done with lf4? :P [14:37] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.162.159) joined ##slackware. [14:37] fire|bird: This is the new system :) [14:37] missyjane, yay! ^-^ [14:37] LifeForce4: nice [14:37] fire|bird: Yeah lol its ugly right now at 1024x768 :P [14:37] nheco_ (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [14:37] slackytude: Armageddon by Prism [14:37] LifeForce4: UGH [14:38] lol and this system is at 1680x1050 [14:38] haha [14:38] wIpEoUt [14:39] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "changing systems" [14:39] Wipeout was by the Surfaris [14:39] i know [14:39] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [14:39] still good [14:39] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@200.69.251.233) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [14:39] yup [14:39] missyjane, thats from 63? always thought it was more recent [14:39] glados is making me cry [14:40] Action: LifeForce4 hands missyjane a tisue [14:40] Action: fire|bird hands missyjane a tissue to wipe the tears. :) [14:41] Nick change: LifeForce4 -> lf4 [14:41] :'< for all the people that are still alive... [14:41] LifeForce4: for crying out loud, can't you spell? [14:41] heh [14:41] Action: lf4 shakes head [14:41] lspci [14:41] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:41] missyjane: you're crying for those who are alive? :P [14:41] lf4: fail, you ain't getting my hardware list. :P [14:41] haha fire|bird yes [14:41] sudo fire|bird lspci [14:42] Permission Denied [14:42] Action: lf4 stabs fire|bird [14:42] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FIVE-FIFTY.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [14:42] Action: Quiznos blocks for the win [14:42] OUCH, what was that for? :P [14:43] Action: fire|bird cuts Quiznos in half, oh look, two 6" subs. :P [14:43] ouch [14:43] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:43] lol [14:43] y0 antiwire [14:43] hey antiwire [14:43] Quiznos: It was only temporary pain, suck it up. :P [14:43] o/ antiwire [14:43] Action: Quiznos oozes [14:43] gonna see if you guys know this "A __________ is used to block unauthorized outside users from accessing an intranet site." [14:44] Quiznos: yeah, oozing melted cheese. :P [14:44] anyone know what might cause arecord to not record from my mic until I run audacity, record from mic there, close audacity and then re-try arecord? [14:44] mishehu, firewall? [14:44] heh [14:44] err missyjane [14:44] missyjane: telepathic connection. [14:44] LOL quasar i wish [14:44] a gun [14:45] http://neworder.box.sk/print/22832 <-- neato howto :D [14:45] anchovie pizza [14:45] antiwire: maybe arecord isn't opening the mic, but audacity is? [14:45] low vals in alsamix? [14:45] fire|bird: yeah [14:45] Quiznos: nope [14:45] k [14:45] they are all good [14:45] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-120.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:45] missyjane: A disconnected RJ-45 cable :P [14:45] pinned to top? [14:45] LOL nah nah [14:46] Quiznos: the levels in alsamixer aren't the issue. the mic works fine [14:46] you know what i realized, how hard it is to find a study buddy, i tried #hardware but nobody has a certificate that im purusing (coincidentally most nobody has any cert in there) [14:46] antiwire: arecord: main:590: audio open error: Device or resource busy <--- that's what I get from cli. [14:46] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [14:46] not me [14:46] antiwire yea but rmember yesterday i said that a rogue app was rewriting mine and I had to chmod 444? [14:46] missyjane: What certs are you goiing for? [14:46] Quiznos: what exactly are you chmoding? [14:46] antiwire if i dont pin the meters then i dont get full output at all. [14:47] missyjane, what cert? I thought you were going to college? [14:47] etc/asound* [14:47] Quiznos: audacity works fine [14:47] ok [14:47] Well what the heck, arecord doesn't work at all for me. :P [14:47] Quiznos: after audacity uses the mic, arecord works [14:48] i'll go ahead and repost what i sent initially... [14:48] yea pondering that [14:48] most certs are highly overrated and exists primarily fort companies to make money [14:48] arecord to not record from my mic until I run audacity, record from mic there, close audacity and then re-try arecord? [14:48] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:48] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] slackytude, whoa, is there a rule that said i cant do both? [14:49] slackytude, cause quite frankly you haevnt been paying attention :x [14:49] lf4, A+ [14:49] missyjane: Man the A+ was a cake walk :) [14:49] antiwire i'm thinking there is a `init string' that audacity send that arecord doesnt. [14:49] missyjane: If you need help let me know. [14:49] A+, the staples/bestbuy cert heh [14:49] NyteOwl: you mean the Geek Squad? :P [14:50] missyjane, :(# [14:50] fire|bird: yep heh [14:50] whats A+ cert? [14:50] haha yeah NyteOwl :) I quit my Net+ after the first day because i was sleeping in class. CCNA was much better. [14:50] missyjane: so the answer to that question can be any number of answers. In this case I'd guess "firewall" or "VPN" [14:50] lf4, which did you take? [14:50] lf4, NyteOwl which did you guys take? cause the 2006/07 and the coming 09 are much, MUCH harder (as many as 70%+ fail it now) [14:50] missyjane: I was one of the first to get the new A+ and also my CCNA. [14:51] the new? 09? [14:51] Hmm, /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c is what it can't open. [14:51] where can i find current iso builds of slackware 64? [14:51] lf4, the 'new' a+? [14:51] missyjane: No the 07/08 [14:51] you mean my old one is no good? [14:51] ccna is my next goal [14:52] lf4, theres no such thing as 08 [14:52] nyRednek: They changed it back in mid 2007 to a new system, from the sound if it missyjane is saying they are changing it again. [14:52] I had a friend that applied for a job and was told he was perfectly qualified except he didn't have A+, Net+ and Linux+. He went and wrote them at the first occasion (all on the same day) and went back two weeks alter and handed copies of his certs to the employer [14:52] For anyone with ANY computer/electronics experience at all they are a joke [14:52] nice [14:52] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-171-107.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:52] NyteOwl: I agree [14:52] lf4, mine is pre-2007 [14:52] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [14:52] NyteOwl you mean the certs are worthless? [14:52] Action: slackytude did his junior linux sysadmin [14:52] Quiznos: except that they might get you a job yes :) [14:52] sometime ago [14:53] NyteOwl gotcha [14:53] NyteOwl: Thats how I got mine :) [14:53] Experiance is the best then degree/certs. [14:53] NyteOwl would you suggest prep before a cert class or cold? [14:54] Action: lf4 wonders why he got on irc with this system it's still being worked on. [14:54] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:54] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: Connection timed out [14:54] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "restarting" [14:54] $0.02 - Prep... you need to know what "language" they are asking the questions in... [14:54] Quiznos, prep never hurts as it refreshes memory for things seldom used. But if you know what you're doing cold is usually ok [14:54] ok [14:55] Quiznos, how i got my certs, i looked at a test prep book to make sure i already knew the material before dropping the cash for the tests...then dropped the cash for the tests, took them, got certs in mail [14:55] xsamurai (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] ty; Pa^2 too [14:55] lf4: it's the cosmic rays you see . . . [14:55] nynice [14:55] lf4 im not sure what you mean by new system, there is no such thing as 07 as 07 is really just new set of questions that are much harder adn trickier [14:55] NyteOwl: He left. :P [14:55] nyredneck nice [14:55] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [14:55] wb lf4 [14:55] *@*#&$^%^$&#* windows [14:55] so what was the answer to that question then... [14:55] nyRednek, if you have your a+ its fine, it doesnt matter what year, its just they are making it harder cause ppl are saying too many people are entering the IT industry this way [14:55] lol thakns fire|bird [14:55] i want to know what *they* expect [14:55] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] antiwire the /dev/? missing device [14:55] no [14:56] NyteOwl, he took a+, net+, and linux+ all int eh same day? impossible [14:56] lf4: (2009-08-24 13:54:48) missyjane: lf4 im not sure what you mean by new system, there is no such thing as 07 as 07 is really just new set of questions that are much harder adn trickier [14:56] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:56] missyjane: I agree they should make it harder [14:56] brb [14:56] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [14:56] the intranet question. it could be answered any number of ways but i want to know what the comptia people think the answer is [14:56] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [14:56] missyjane: not really. he just made arrangements to challenge the exams. [14:56] missyjane: to answer your question they devided the A+ in 07 into the 4 different parts instead of just hardware/software [14:57] anyone know? [14:57] lf4, they have been but its a pain in the butt, antiwire i am unable to check for you now as im taking this practice test, im just afraid ill fail cause its money i dont really have to throw away [14:57] where i can find current iso builds of slackware 64? [14:57] lf4, that was the 06 edition, 07 is the new set of questions, thats it [14:57] on the homesite [14:57] chk the mirrors too [14:57] lol wow then maybe I am dating myself lol I was thinking it was 07 when I got mine and they just started that new system. :P [14:57] question, isn't a+ valid for life? [14:57] if you got 99% of the test centers it will say "2007 editions", it wont say any separate editions, to put it in short, 06 and 07 are exactly the same thing, just new questions, any test BEFORE 06 is the hardware and os [14:58] anybody did a cert from the linux professional institute? [14:58] nyRednek, it is [14:58] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [14:58] slackytude, i plan to do that soon, but i gotta do a+ first, basic stuff [14:58] cool [14:58] Quiznos: ive been looking through there [14:58] slackytude: I was thinking about getting my linux cert. [14:58] missyjane, ok...my old '02 a+ is still good then [14:58] looked through all FTP's, cant find the iso's though... [14:58] ViN86 the mirror list? [14:58] ok hold [14:58] ja [14:59] nyRednek, yep was it hard for you? lf4 what score did you get? [14:59] missyjane, it was easy for me, and i don't remember my score... [14:59] i got zero [14:59] ;] [14:59] missyjane: I think I only missed 2 questions, let me check my documents. [14:59] nyRednek, hm i kinda figured that, try the new practice test for 06, lots of people tell me its much harder [14:59] missyjane, i think it was only like 14 q's per part [14:59] lf4, really? [15:00] ViN86 32 or 64? [15:00] missyjane: like I said I knew all that stuff before I even took the cert so it was really easy for me. [15:00] 64 plz [15:00] k [15:00] nyRednek, are you serious? so you got in total only 28 questions or so? cause the 06 one is 90 question per exam and you need to get around 85% to pass [15:00] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [15:00] lf4, its not just remembering, cause its also adaptive test, meaning the more question you answer correctly, the harder it gets [15:00] missyjane, it was a progressive test, basing the next q on whether the previous one was right [15:00] Haha I don't even know where my A+ papers are :P thats how important they were to me. [15:00] nyRednek, yep called adaptive exams [15:01] missyjane: yeah I know that [15:01] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [15:01] lf4, youre lucky then :( i need my a+ [15:01] Lets see I use to know a good site that would help study for certs I'll try to find it again. [15:01] missyjane, it wasn't many questions...i finished it in like 8 minutes...the examiner was freaking out that i was done so fast [15:02] nyRednek, no wonder people said pre06 was easy lol [15:02] nyRednek: wow that was pre 06? [15:02] cause its almost 200 questions now, not 30 questions [15:02] I had about 90-110 questions. [15:02] lf4, yeah, pre 06 [15:02] well good news though, employers are smart enought os ay "we want 06-09 edition exams" [15:02] lol [15:02] wb fire|bird [15:02] cause its unfair :X [15:02] lf4: thanks [15:02] it was like '01 or '02 [15:02] the newest thing out was windows 2k and windows me [15:03] ViN86 http://mirror.deepStyle.org.ua/ dont know their pipe speed tho [15:03] the network+ was a little harder for me [15:03] missyjane: if they are going to be that picky I'd just say forget it and find a better job. lol [15:03] ViN86 wait tho. [15:03] nyRednek: I quit net+ lol how was that class? [15:03] nyRednek, lucky you again, cause they updated net+ [15:04] s/class/cert [15:04] nheco_ (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: No route to host [15:04] lf4, never took the class, read the book, and took the test [15:04] lf4, not really, govt jobs are like that too, in fact my exbf tells me all military personell doing it related work are REQUIRED to have the latest compti cert [15:04] so a+, net+ ,etc [15:04] lf4, i was in that room for an hour on each part of that test [15:04] so you guys think ill pass? :( lol [15:04] ViN86 you know how to make a iso? [15:04] wow nyRednek Thats crazy [15:04] can you burn your own? [15:04] nheco_ (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [15:04] missyjane: If you study you'll do fine :) [15:04] missyjane, you hve been in here long enough.... [15:05] Quiznos: i can burn my own, but how do i make it bootable? [15:05] missyjane: yeah, if you study and are prepared, you'll do fine. [15:05] lf4, i have been trying, slackytude psh doesnt mena naything, some college are now offering credit-class for this [15:05] lf4, i wasn't much of a network guy at the time [15:05] do i need a boot sector like the XP discs? [15:05] lf4, i might read the book and update my exams [15:05] sure, stay with geeks and you become geeky yourself [15:05] nyRednek: Thats good though :) [15:05] like the flu [15:05] ++ slackytude [15:05] ViN86: ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/ISO-images/slackware/Current-ISO-build/ [15:05] The mechanism in a CD-ROM/DVD drive responsible for positioning the drive's Read mechanism in the correct position is the _________." [15:06] lf4, and, iirc, the network + was in 3 parts [15:06] librarian elf [15:06] vin see isolinux/ ; ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware [15:06] fire|bird: ooh thx [15:06] the tray? [15:06] heh [15:06] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [15:06] ViN86: you're welcome [15:06] Quiznos: k, ill check it out, thx man [15:06] ViN86 usc has a Gig pipe; there are two in the .us [15:06] missyjane: Would they look for the stepper motor? lol [15:06] Quiznos: k, thx a lot [15:06] missyjane, i think that would be the arm [15:06] yvw [15:06] thats kinda pointless question [15:07] missyjane, but i think i'm wrong [15:07] all A+ are that way [15:07] ViN86 usc is in slackpkg mirrors list [15:07] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:07] most anybody in here could pass the lpi stuff easily [15:07] so vague you almost have to guess what they were trying to say. [15:07] lol you are gonna call the question pointless because you dont know the answer? :( [15:07] antiwire: I had to restart the pc to get my arecord working. :P [15:07] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [15:07] lf4, well to be fair, it IS an entry level exam, not doctorate studies [15:08] missyjane, no, because its kinda irrelevant. but Im more the software guy anywa [15:08] fire|bird: I just restarted and haven't run audacity yet. arecord won't work [15:08] missyjane: true [15:08] slackytude, then you shouldnt even be taking a+ its not for you [15:08] missyjane, I dont. [15:08] missyjane, no, but it is pointless in the fact that it's irrelevant to the job...if that part is b0rked, you replace the entire drive [15:08] missyjane, never heard of it before [15:08] antiwire: I had to restart just to get it to load, I haven't tried with a mic yet. What command did you use, did you specify a device at all? [15:09] fire|bird: arecord -f fd -vv /dev/null [15:09] nyRednek, meh theres a lot of stuff that are pointless, its meant to let you get comfortable with touching technology (hence entry level) [15:09] ph|ber (n=phiber@mail.synergies4u.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:09] its like the military [15:09] fire|bird: after i run audacity that command works fine [15:09] antiwire: ok, I'll try here and see what happens. [15:09] ph|ber (n=phiber@68.142.181.165) joined ##slackware. [15:09] before i start audacity, that command won't even work as root. it just sits there [15:09] they make you do horrible shit in boot camp, most of it somewhat pointless, but after the training, you are used to dirt and can handle it if you have to, even though you are not likely to see combat in this or the next life due to the changing world [15:09] Quiznos: k [15:09] k [15:09] meh, I started my first repairing pc's with 15 [15:10] slackytude, depends, 5 years ago everything was different, just 10 years ago or so slackware was in floppy form, so :x time do change [15:10] missyjane: I'll comment on that one; the A+ and the rest of the tests you'll do are the easy part. this industry sucks. [15:10] i never got that luxury, when you were 15 i was probably still a baby or in mommys stomach [15:10] missyjane, it's an access arm [15:10] _nheco_ (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [15:10] missyjane, i had it half right [15:10] antiwire, hm? im afraid ill fail cause i actually got some questions wrong on the practice exam [15:10] missyjane, sure, but hardware is slower. besides its pretty much like lego. have to find the right plug [15:10] missyjane, had to look it up [15:11] nyRednek, cheater lol [15:11] its abit concerning that my terminal window says root@cid:~ [15:11] Action: acidchild doesn't think he's on IRC as rewt ;/ [15:11] missyjane: I'm commenting on your boot camp comparison. what you are doing now is the easy part. being in the industry and working is the pain in the ass. [15:11] missyjane, i said arm before... [15:11] antiwire: you work? :/ [15:11] :P [15:11] hi [15:11] missyjane, it's been 8 years since i dealt with that exam [15:11] antiwire, oh! [15:11] nyRednek, hehe :) i know [15:12] lol antiwire works? [15:12] [15:12] sometimes yeah [15:12] i thought he was a drug lord. [15:12] I thought he was a pimp [15:12] s/drug/crack/ [15:12] D: lol [15:12] hey you OWE ME MONEY b****! [15:12] lol [15:12] Action: missyjane pulls out a gun [15:12] Action: fire|bird ducks [15:12] Action: lf4 gets his glock [15:12] Action: slackytude activates his personal shield [15:12] Action: fire|bird crawls to his tank [15:12] lets get one thing straight, drug lords don't awe money. drug users owe money [15:12] Action: nyRednek runs missyjane over with his truck [15:12] Action: Quiznos oozes [15:13] awe/owe [15:13] problem solved [15:13] Action: eviljames farts [15:13] an oozing Quiznos :P yummm.. [15:13] antiwire: arecord: main:485: wrong extended format 'fd' [15:13] now you're ALL dead [15:13] Action: acidchild sets fire to eviljames's fart [15:13] eviljames: nah, I had my gas mask on. :) [15:13] well, now the world is ablaze [15:13] fire|bird: oops, -f cd [15:13] evenin [15:13] tewmten: ! [15:13] :D [15:13] fire|bird: hehe, how goes it? [15:13] acidchild: ez =) [15:14] eviljames: goes excellent, thanks. you? [15:14] how you doing? :] [15:14] y0 tewmten, eviljames [15:14] hoi slackytude [15:14] hey fire|bird [15:14] eviljames, you come here and fart [15:14] slackytude: hi ;] [15:14] Action: lf4 leaves to get Quiznos bbl [15:14] fire|bird: waking up after a 3 day bender in a trailer park. living the dream [15:14] antiwire: haha, same thing again: arecord: main:590: audio open error: Device or resource busy [15:14] y0 acidchild [15:14] lol [15:14] acidchild: im doing alright. you? [15:14] y0 tewmten [15:14] eviljames: haha, nice [15:14] tewmten: ah good weekend thanks. girlfriends gone home now, so now its work time [15:14] fire|bird: why the hell does audacity work for me and then after that arecord works fine [15:14] hmm got kinda a hardware question. What is the current wirelessG pci card that people would want? Something I could buy on newegg.com now [15:14] this is driving me crazy [15:15] eviljames: trailer park? work is that bad? :P [15:15] eviljames, i hear the women are easy in the trailer park...is it true? [15:15] eviljames, i know they're easy in the hood [15:15] a rednek doesnt now? [15:15] antiwire: I'm not sure, I'm trying to figure that out myself now. :P [15:15] eviljames: haha nice :P [15:15] i have palpitations.. damnit.. too much caffeine today [15:15] know? [15:15] tewmten take a walk [15:15] tewmten: that happens to me even without the caffeine [15:15] Quiznos, i live in nyc [15:15] missyjane: PM? [15:15] nyRednek i know; i'm from Yonkers [15:16] tewmten: I'll just be sitting, totally calm, and i get them [15:16] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:16] go ahead [15:16] nyRednek: in a trailer park, the lovin' you want you ain't gettin. and the lovin' you gettin you don't want. [15:16] nah ive had enough walks for today [15:16] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:16] its 21:15 here [15:16] tewmten walking will speed up metabolising [15:16] imma get some grub and get sleep [15:16] Quiznos, really, come jack my truck out of newburgh...i wanna go home for a few days [15:16] nyRednek lol; but i'm in fla. atm [15:16] Quiznos, damn [15:16] nyRednek i'd love to [15:16] nods [15:17] Quiznos, the truck is empty [15:17] Quiznos, and i'd just hand you the keys and walk away from it [15:17] nyRednek went to skool at "sunny" new paltz [15:17] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [15:17] nyRednek damn; wat kind of truck? [15:17] Quiznos, peterbilt 385 [15:17] OTR? [15:17] Quiznos, yah [15:17] cfrap that's too big for my need :) [15:18] Quiznos, i'll even give you shifting lessons so you don't get run over by the other drivers [15:18] lol [15:18] nyRednek post it on Craig's list [15:18] or ebay even [15:18] get some cash for it [15:18] Quiznos, then i WOULD get caught by the company [15:18] lol [15:19] that's bad, nyRednek [15:19] if i built one of these http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/cluster/images/cluster0001.jpg do you think i could sell it? [15:19] im going to install slackware:) [15:19] yay [15:19] i have pretty much all the parts for one [15:19] ^5 udevd_ [15:19] Quiznos, some idiot walks up to a truck that has sensorTracs installed and demands it, i won't go down for it [15:19] nods :) [15:19] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A723E8.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:19] Quiznos, admittedly, they likely would [15:19] nyRednek do the right thing [15:20] acidchild: i was thinking of building one myself [15:20] antiwire: Just a thought, but could you use like strace with both arecord and audacity and see what one audacity is accessing that arecord isn't? [15:20] xsamurai: seems alot of novelty interest [15:20] fire|bird i was gonna sugget that 20min ago [15:20] Quiznos, iirc, it's a federal offense to screw with interstate commerce [15:20] nyRednek but there is a way to get out from under that burden [15:20] i have about 40 nano/mini/pico VIA boards. [15:21] need to do something creative with them [15:21] ;p [15:21] Quiznos, i'm just tired and bitchy right now...haven't seen home in a couple weeks and used to seeing it every 8 days [15:21] nyRednek yea, gotcha. [15:21] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-205-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:21] and they just sent me a damn load to rochester...GOING THE WRONG WAY [15:22] i'm in a bit of a snit about coders and their terrible makefiles [15:22] bummer [15:22] cant correct? [15:22] unfortunately, i'm under forced dispatch [15:22] yea [15:22] used every excuse i had for not taking it [15:22] well if its an error, dont they want to know? [15:23] GIGO too [15:23] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p54A725A9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:23] i'll refuse the next one if it isn't dropping in edison [15:23] just on principle [15:23] well; dont enganger your livelyhood [15:24] the next one, i can 'legally' refuse due to hometime request if it isn't headed back towards new jersey [15:24] ah [15:24] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:24] acidchild: send me a couple :) [15:24] one to me too [15:24] Quiznos: I don't think he meant wrong way in the sense you took it, he meant it as far as it's taking him farther away from home, right nyRednek? [15:25] fire|bird, exactly [15:25] acidchild: whats the max cpu speed supported on those boards ? [15:25] ok ty [15:25] they are about 1ghz to 1.2ghz [15:25] VIA chipsets. [15:25] acidlinuxable? [15:25] acidchild linuxable? [15:25] of course rofl [15:25] :) [15:25] antiwire: Now this arecord issue is bugging me, the cause shall be found, by one of us anyway. :P [15:25] acidchild: build a little cluster [15:25] Quiznos: if it isnt he'll make it linuxable with a hammer [15:26] NyteOwl: yah man, but i wana sell it [15:26] sue; the approved method [15:26] sure [15:26] NyteOwl: might start building it today, dont have 'work' atm [15:26] acidchild: build it all into one case and market it on Kijiji as a microminimainframe :p [15:26] fire|bird, what is really pissing me off about it...my last delivery was 60 miles from the bronx, now i gotta go to ROCHESTER [15:26] A member of the Power Users group has been trying to access the files of a user who has left the company. However, she can't get into them. Why is this? [15:26] NyteOwl: yah, but i got a UPS for it too, which is rackable [15:27] fire|bird: http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2169/lf4setup20090814.jpg :) What a mess lol [15:27] fire|bird earlier i mentioned to antiwire that I thought there was a dif tween audacity's init and asound's [15:27] NyteOwl: so i might build the whole thing in this rack i have [15:27] nyRednek: wow [15:27] i dont know about selling it, you can setup a decent 80 core cluster for under 5k [15:27] acidchild: where's my server? :p [15:27] lf4: yours? [15:27] technopolic (n=intel@95.43.26.1) joined ##slackware. [15:27] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-197-243.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:27] fire|bird, you see why i'm pissed [15:27] yeah fire|bird :) [15:28] I could never have my mouse beside that keyboard.. not enough space :\ [15:28] nyRednek: yeah, and I can't blame you either. :) [15:28] NyteOwl: up my ass. [15:28] quasar: I dont like it either but I dont want to buy a new desk. [15:28] lf4: Give me my keyboard back dang you, I was wondering where that went. :P [15:28] fire|bird: Haha :P MINE! [15:28] lf4: I just put mine on top of the desk :) [15:28] acidchild: well go plug it into the network damnit! [15:28] and i'm not really getting paid shit for the load [15:28] less than 100 [15:28] Action: NyteOwl wan't free server [15:28] hehehe [15:29] NyteOwl: the ip is 4.2.2.2 [15:29] lf4: I have the same, well at least really similar one. (The one on the keyboard pullout.) [15:29] port 53 [15:29] wow that sux nyRednek [15:29] root/N$A [15:29] nyRednek: LESS thank 100, dang. [15:29] s/thank/than/ [15:29] the ports on that server are all open [15:29] quasar: I did as well if I use the wireless, there are marks on the desk because of it. [15:29] xsamurai: lolol? which server? [15:29] the one in your butt [15:29] haha [15:29] lf4: I *almost* got that same router you have sitting there, the wifi one. :P [15:29] fire|bird, i told bobbie(dispatch) that if the next load wasn't going home, the truck was going to lawnside so that i can take a belt to her [15:29] fire|bird: Yeah :) its a good keyboard I have had it for 7-8 years now. [15:30] fire|bird: Don't its horrible lol [15:30] lf4: Yeah, I got a different one. [15:30] lf4: yeah, great keyboard for sure. [15:30] fire|bird, i have a bad feeling she's going to do it just to get 'punished' [15:30] haha [15:30] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500010 this is a good board for $36 [15:30] lol [15:31] fire|bird, yeah, she's a freak [15:31] heh [15:31] nheco_ (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:31] fire|bird, and if neither of was were married, i'm sure i'd already have my collar on her neck [15:31] oh boy [15:31] A tech is in the server room when you enter, and you notice the door has been braced open. What should you do? [15:31] xsamurai: I have the 630i its alright but I am annoied it doesnt support network boot [15:31] lf4: Well, gazillionth lappy hdd image just finished. (PLEASE WORK) :P [15:31] xsamurai: looks very..cheap [15:31] xsamurai: yeah, they are very nice boards actully [15:31] haha fire|bird You still on that project? [15:31] lf4: Yes, :( [15:32] technopolic (n=intel@95.43.26.1) left ##slackware. [15:32] straterra: cheap good enough for a cluster [15:32] the video card is fail, i use a hardware mpeg encoder on all mine to offload. [15:32] lf4: As you should know by now, I don't give up. :P [15:32] err [15:32] I wouldn't cluster that [15:32] Action: lf4 gives fire|bird a shotgun if this image doesn't work. [15:32] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl7-76-3.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:33] missyjane, lock and load? [15:33] lf4: KABOOM, right between the platters. :D [15:33] \o/ [15:33] nyRednek, lol no killing allowed [15:33] i'd cluster anything , calculators, ipods , and those old casio watches [15:33] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A73F28.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:33] lol xsamurai [15:33] white appliances [15:33] missyjane: Call the supervisor so they don't think you did it. :P [15:33] missyjane, i wouldn't enter the server room, to share blame for whatever theft may have occurred [15:33] nyRednek: yeah, exactly [15:33] xsamurai: used MPI before? know c? :P [15:34] fire|bird, BINGO [15:34] nyRednek, you = fail [15:34] lol [15:34] lol [15:34] missyjane: u fail [15:34] missyjane, not exactly comptia direct answer, but just an instinctive cya moment [15:34] acidchild, why? [15:34] Oh, we're playing bingo now, B4 :P [15:34] missyjane: i dunno [15:35] nyRednek, lol true but instinct should be call the authoritve, dont escape the crime scene [15:35] under the i, phone [15:35] missyjane, i wouldn't have entered if the door looked forced in [15:35] acidchild: mpi havent touched it [15:35] fire|bird: one down side to my setup... it gets really warm in my room haha [15:35] lf4: bah, I'm on the wrong kernel to test the image. [15:35] xsamurai: :) [15:35] lf4: haha, same here. [15:35] missyjane, escape from what? i was never in there [15:36] fire|bird: Oh man lol time for 1001 :P [15:36] nyRednek, if you went in then left, the camera catches you, you left adn will get in trouble if you dont report it [15:36] nyRednek: I think she means that if you leave, it looks like you did something and took off. [15:36] missyjane, if i went in, i'd be calling someone [15:36] nyRednek, oh but you said "cya" lol [15:36] i assuemd that meant you wont even bother telling anyone [15:36] missyjane, yeah, cover your ass [15:36] lf4: haha [15:36] brb, again. :/ [15:37] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:37] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [15:37] not enough info. maybe the door was propped open for a legitimate reason, there is already a tech present, etc [15:37] :p [15:37] if one had previously established a relatinship of trust with manamgement, then one would be trusted not to lie or be accusable. [15:37] missyjane, not bye, but c.y.a. [15:37] lol same difference, here is another quesiton [15:37] What is considered a virus? [15:37] WIndows [15:38] NyteOwl, you just got social engineered if you think that tech is supposed to be there [15:38] a mangina [15:38] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A723E8.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [15:38] McAfee, Symantec, Politicians,... [15:38] missyjane, oh, that is malicious code or random error that has effects unintended by the design of the software [15:38] c.y.a. = cover your ass? (as in looking out for yourself) [15:38] missyjane: as I said not enough info, he may be, he may not. but you don't have enough info from what you gave us to determine that [15:38] Pig_Pen, exactly [15:38] OH thats what cya means, i thought it means "see ya" [15:38] I know - the questions are stilted for a particualr context [15:39] Nick change: Quiznos -> PurpleSmurf [15:39] NyteOwl, im giving you the question exactly as i am reading it from my examcram [15:39] pbbbt [15:39] bored [15:39] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-199-139.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:39] !ping [15:39] pong? [15:39] i think i'm lagging [15:39] missyjane: as I said - they are workded a aprticualr way to amtch a particular course. That dopesn't mean the course will always match reality (or even often) [15:39] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:39] acidchild, obviously not [15:39] someone is ramming your ass with packets. [15:39] :D [15:40] Action: NyteOwl apologizes for the crappy typing today [15:40] you better! [15:40] acidchild, i'm not getting much in the way of packets here...just an occasional flash [15:40] 1.4s [15:40] wut [15:40] acidchild, on a commercial wifi service [15:41] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-120.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] which one? specs? cost? [15:41] i forgot who but somebody here wrote an article on tcp/ip , anybody have the link [15:41] xsamurai: google? wikipedia? [15:41] yah, tldp.org [15:41] =P [15:41] acidchild, wanderingwifi...i think it's 802.11g [15:41] _nheco_ (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: "Saindo" [15:41] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [15:42] acidchild, $4.79/24 hours [15:42] is that a packet in your pocket? or are you just happy to see me? -- mae west [15:42] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:42] heh [15:42] lol [15:42] 5$/day? [15:42] thats 150$/month?! [15:42] xsamurai: http://www.lizella.net/networking_101.txt [15:42] what speeds? [15:42] acidchild, or $20/month, if you see these things often enough to want to pay by month [15:42] acidchild, which i don't [15:42] nyRednek: what speed? [15:42] antiwire: thanks , someone remembers [15:43] acidchild, i usually go to idleaire [15:43] never mind. [15:43] nyRednek, i really don't know...it's almost fast enough to stream a tv show [15:44] but not quite [15:45] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [15:45] What is one way to completelyl remove data from ao hard disk drive? [15:45] Nick change: PurpleSmurf -> Quiznos [15:45] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [15:45] i wanna pick D (Physically destroy the drives platters with a hamemr or acid) lol [15:45] what are the other comptia options? [15:46] because we all know the real answer but we don't know what comptia thinks... [15:46] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-67-120.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:46] i get a rss feed from USGS for quake notices; there are mag 5.0+ quakes everyday down under by .oz and .jp, east and west of there. [15:46] darkwurm (n=dw@75-93-1-171.eug.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] antiwire: Alright, I restarted, am on a different kernel, and arecord just sits there showing 00% [15:47] fire|bird: yeah, also i don't even need to record from audacity to make arecord work. Simply starting audacity and closing it then trying arecord works [15:47] thermite works well [15:47] A) partition and completly reformat the driv B) reinstall the operating system over the existing os structure c) delete all the files on the drive and perform a disk defrag operation [15:48] antiwire: very odd [15:48] nonne of the above [15:48] missyjane: if the definition of 'format' for A means a r/w format then it is A [15:48] antiwire: I'll mess around with it, if I figure anything out I'll let you know. [15:48] oh i know its a but d is guaranteed :x [15:49] missyjane: A is not the answer if quick format is chosen though [15:49] this is why these questions tend to be bunk [15:49] 'format' is ambiguous [15:49] and that's what's wrong with comptia. they are totally out of touch. even a reformat dfoesn't remove the data from the drive. it just makes it harder to get to [15:49] heh [15:49] ya [15:49] missyjane, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/xxx [15:49] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl7-76-3.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:49] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [15:50] i know how to build a computer for one, if thats what a+ wants me to do, but :( i wanna pass it [15:50] a+ is so worthless..waste of money and time [15:50] cat /dev/zero /dev/xxx [15:50] missyjane, or if your bios supports a low-level format [15:51] missyjane, that'll do the job [15:51] lol :x so everyone picked a+ [15:51] ok [15:51] err a) [15:51] missyjane, and there are boot sticks that will allow a low level format [15:51] DBAN is a good one [15:51] nyRednek, i know [15:51] No, I picked A assuming Comptia defines 'format' as a real r/w format. [15:52] in the real world I wouldn't have picked any of those options as secure wiping methods [15:52] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-218-35.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [15:52] my secure wiping method would be a drill [15:52] antiwire, a bar magnet to the platters is good for most applications [15:53] I wouldn't trust that [15:53] If I still needed the disk I would have just used dd against /dev/zero once and depending on my paranoia level a second pass using dev/urandom [15:53] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FIVE-FIFTY.MIT.EDU) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:53] if i didn't need the disk...physical mayhem time [15:54] I'd do a zero, reformat the drive as fat32, fill with gay/tranny porn..delete the mbr [15:54] lol [15:54] haha [15:55] THAT'S a secure wipe [15:55] missyjane: Clearly, asking us these questions is going to get you nowhere [15:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8kdzkCqCks .50 cal BMG VSs 18 harddrives [15:55] they are far too open ended [15:55] fucking hell [15:56] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [15:56] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:56] 12 out of 24 wrong in 5.1 objective [15:56] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] A+ is a waste of time [15:56] http://i32.tinypic.com/2hfuq0h.jpg [15:56] Don't do it [15:56] lol i need it [15:56] rofl antiwire thats such a cute smiley face/figure :x [15:56] _nheco_ (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [15:56] need it for what? [15:57] Got too much time and money? [15:57] that's my "1 out of 2 ain't bad" face [15:57] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:57] -_- [15:57] Too much self respect? [15:58] _nheco_ (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: Client Quit [15:58] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) joined ##slackware. [15:58] Prostitution fixes 2/3 of those..and paying the customers fixes the third [15:58] make up your mind, am i a prostitute or mangina or some federal agent now? [15:58] can we choose all three for that question? [15:58] I don't recall calling you a federal agent..but maybe I did [15:58] missyjane: Why can't you be all of the above? :P [15:58] but I believe one can be all three o.O [15:59] A federal manstitute [15:59] haha [15:59] or maybe a federal prostiwhore [15:59] prostigina..oops [15:59] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:59] a promiscuous transvestite Federal angent? [15:59] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [15:59] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.129.15) joined ##slackware. [15:59] that would be freaking worrisome [16:00] Or fun [16:00] a transilvanian transvestite? [16:00] Action: slackytude3 does the time warp again [16:00] im sweating now [16:01] rocky horror picture show anyone? [16:01] i failed all of object, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 and im working on 6 and doing bad already on 6.1 [16:01] why is a+ so hard? :( [16:01] Uhm..a+ is NOT hard [16:01] straterra, so you can answer any question ig ive you? [16:01] ill ask you objectives from 1 and 2 [16:01] Considering that I HAD A+..and let it expire..most likely [16:02] When you instaling a ribbon cable for a disk drive, the color stripe should poin tto? [16:02] a+ dont expire [16:02] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:02] that tells me you got the pre06 one too [16:02] pin1 [16:02] ph|ber (n=phiber@68.142.181.165) got netsplit. [16:02] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) got netsplit. [16:02] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) got netsplit. [16:02] truzicic (n=toma@83-131-233-170.adsl.net.t-com.hr) got netsplit. [16:02] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) got netsplit. 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[16:02] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] OH HAI [16:02] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) returned to ##slackware. [16:02] ... [16:02] let strat answer [16:03] uh..1? How about a less retarded question [16:03] first pin [16:03] lol [16:03] no googling What is the stated clock speed for a DDR 3200 double pumped DIMM? [16:03] Who the fuck still uses IDE cables without the top notch? [16:03] snewp (i=slacker@cpe-69-203-220-240.nyc.res.rr.com) returned to ##slackware. [16:03] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-93-25.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) returned to ##slackware. [16:03] 400mhz [16:03] nope B [16:04] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) returned to ##slackware. [16:04] mishehu (i=mishehu@cshells.shavedgoats.net) returned to ##slackware. [16:04] B is not an answer for that [16:04] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) returned to ##slackware. 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[16:04] ph|ber (n=phiber@68.142.181.165) returned to ##slackware. [16:04] was first pin right? [16:04] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-12-114.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) returned to ##slackware. [16:04] Maybe if it's not paired with another DDR 3200 stick [16:05] Tyrael_ (n=tyrael@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) left irc: Excess Flood [16:05] lol but thats not what the question asked :x [16:05] Tyrael_ (n=tyrael@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:05] 400mhz is the stated clock speed..read the box [16:05] slackytude3, yes but i wasnt comfortable with that when someone else answered >< [16:05] nope a+ says 200 [16:05] It didn't ask the actual clock speed [16:05] ill give you the ISBN so you can pickup the book if you dont believe me [16:05] I don't care what comptia says..I know whats right [16:05] whee! [16:05] I don't care what some outdated book says either [16:05] lol its not outdated, its the 06 edition [16:05] which is still tested for [16:05] Uhm.. [16:06] if you got the pre06 yours is outdated [16:06] That doesn't mean its not outdated [16:06] its not outdated because if you go sign up for the test now you will get the 06 tests [16:06] I dunno if you've looked at modern hardware..at all.. [16:06] That doesn't mean its not outdated. That just means the test is outdated too [16:07] At what point does heat buildup become a problem for most PCs? [16:07] Depends on the chipset and core of the CPU [16:07] when the CPU goes *BOOM* [16:08] Richlv (n=rich@81.94.235.186) got lost in the net-split. [16:08] lol :x nope.. [16:08] If its an Athlon XP..uhm..it'll run approximately 3 inches away from the sun [16:08] have to give a number [16:08] 95C [16:08] 95c? [16:08] no clue, maybe 91C? [16:08] C? no ill give you a hint, the answers are in F [16:08] Most desktop CPU will have hit thermal shutdown before then [16:08] arno (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:09] F? who the hell measures computer temperature in F? [16:09] dngr (n=dngr@n11649134204.netvigator.com) left irc: Broken pipe [16:09] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Broken pipe [16:09] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.11) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:09] keep going this is fun [16:09] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.77) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:09] missyjane, bah, freaky imperial units [16:09] dunno but comptia has the answers in F [16:09] That's because comptia are idiots.. [16:09] xD antiwire yeah thats what i mean, a lot of people got answers wrong in ##hardware too [16:09] Im kinda proud I knew it was pin 1 [16:09] didnt do that in ages [16:10] A hard drive can show damage from as little heat as 60C, if exposed long enough [16:10] north bridges are more tolerant of heat, as are memory sticks [16:10] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [16:10] GPU's even more so [16:10] antiwire: arecord doesn't even work when opening and closing audacity here. :P [16:11] ok still objective 1 [16:11] What type of network typically employs SC connectors? [16:11] fiber [16:11] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:12] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-26-241-199.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:12] Is that your final answer? [16:13] yes [16:13] you know don't have to keep going? [16:13] you can stop right now [16:13] NO, let him phone a friend. [16:13] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [16:13] eat it, regis [16:13] lol [16:13] haha [16:13] lol [16:14] ok that was surprised me [16:14] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Connection timed out [16:15] what network type does not have to intereact with a dedicated server? [16:15] heh, p2p [16:15] ^-^ [16:15] ^^ [16:15] what are the options? [16:15] goodie [16:15] also..network type is vague [16:15] antiwire, dont need options if yo uknow it :x [16:15] bullshit [16:15] are we talking topology or what? [16:15] Exactly [16:16] If its topology..its most all :P [16:16] the answers would create the context for us [16:16] yeah, give some options [16:16] ok this is more clear [16:16] What general advantage does an 802.11g network have over an 802.11b network? [16:16] Speed and range [16:16] faster [16:16] bandwidth and range [16:16] Also, G networks tend to have the option of WPA due to newer hardware [16:17] PICK ONE [16:17] lol [16:17] Uh.. [16:17] All of them? [16:17] This is why comptia has retarded tests [16:17] I choose bandwidth then. [16:17] lol [16:18] then explain why so many people fail it [16:18] yeah, bandwidth [16:18] missyjane: Because they are even more retarded? [16:18] If you failed the practice test..well.. [16:18] lol [16:18] Action: NyteOwl prefers 802.11a :p [16:18] ok im stupid, i know what you are trying to imply [16:18] straterra, there are very little things you havent called me [16:18] There is a reason why Geek Squad is ran by a bunch of morons [16:18] im lifes very bane [16:18] missyjane: because the answers are arbitrary and often lack full context. the only way to choose the correct answer is to know what Comptia wants and that is not necessarily the correct real world answer. [16:19] NyteOwl, oldschool [16:19] They want A+...and thats it [16:19] they are not the only place that want a+ [16:19] Tyrael (n=tyrael@c2224.upc-c.chello.nl) left irc: No buffer space available [16:19] In other words..they hire missyjane [16:19] the us gov want A+ too [16:19] Action: straterra snickers [16:19] slackytude3: yes, but it has a few advantages :) I don't use wireless often so it's a good option for em :) [16:19] Action: missyjane shrugs [16:19] er me [16:19] i dont care, its a job [16:19] For an IT job with the government..you need more than A+ [16:19] straterra, yep but a+ is one of the req [16:19] ##slackware, at its best, as always [16:20] ananke, at least its related to tech now :p [16:20] lol A+ is a joke [16:20] ananke: You're missing out. This one has been fun. [16:20] Like a game show. [16:20] acidchild, did you get it? [16:20] yeah [16:20] missyjane: no [16:20] geek quiz [16:20] I liked it [16:20] Action: NyteOwl tosses ananke a hard sectored 8-inch floppy disc [16:20] missyjane: i seen the course stuff, i have no certs. [16:20] antiwire: except these questions might as well be "What is blue?" with its vagueness [16:20] Action: acidchild aint no badge collector [16:21] acidchild, college graduate? [16:21] nope [16:21] missyjane, besides, all you need is here: http://xkcd.com/627/ [16:21] thats unrealistic for most people [16:21] straterra: The A in A+ stands for Ambiguous [16:21] Buying some pot and smoking it is a better application for your money than taking A+ [16:22] I only took it because it was free [16:22] After statically assigning an IP address and subnet mask to a Windows machine, you try to ping the local adapter's IP address, but you receive a Destination host unreachable message. What does this indicate? [16:22] antiwire : indeed, this one seems a bit more upbeat [16:22] missyjane: why? starbucks hires anyone [16:22] wrong subnet [16:22] you typoed it [16:22] missyjane: windows firewall [16:22] wait, local adapter? [16:22] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:23] acidchild, nope tried, i even tried mcdondalds :x not hiring [16:23] If its windows 98..you didn't reboot after setting it :O [16:23] lolol [16:23] missyjane: ok we answered...now what does Comptia expect for that one? [16:23] eh, local adapter responds with destination host unreachable? thats bad [16:23] LOL [16:23] noone has the right answer? and as for prior [16:23] http://www.nysun.com/pics/5030.jpg i like to show this an example [16:24] so im a "badge collector" [16:24] I have the right answer [16:24] straterra, Windows XP [16:24] not 98 sorry that was my bad [16:24] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-168-238-39.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] missyjane, probably economics dude [16:24] Could be the firewall, like was stated [16:24] Could be a typo [16:24] slackytude3: or lack of personality [16:24] :) [16:24] missyjane: what does comptia want for this answer? [16:24] antiwire: $1500 [16:24] lmao [16:24] B) The local adapter's IP address has not been initialized. [16:24] eh [16:25] wtf [16:25] That answer doesn't even make sense [16:25] guess reboot was correct then [16:25] IP address not initialized? what the hell does that mean? [16:25] It doesn't mean anything [16:25] initialized sounds like programming, like call, or calling a function :x [16:25] It might as well have said "Where does baby come from?" [16:25] babby^ [16:25] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:25] lol straterra i get it, im the worst thing ever happen to you and life itself [16:25] That answer is definitely out there. [16:26] missyjane: Close.. [16:26] A+ ranks right there too [16:26] yes yes i know, im as horrible as hitler [16:26] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [16:26] But not nearly as intelligent o.O [16:26] "Performing a System State Backup backs up ________." [16:26] Even hitler could pass A+ [16:26] hardly [16:26] lol exactly, im VERY horrible [16:26] missyjane: registry [16:26] What backup product? [16:27] lol [16:27] give me an A [16:27] give me an M [16:27] I assume registry if the backup tool is ntbackup [16:27] If you are gonna waste your money on A+..thats cool..but it really won't help with a decent job [16:27] so about 3 questions you got wrong out of about 5-6 i gave [16:28] No.. [16:28] straterra, nobody ever said it ends there [16:28] i wanna get my ccie one day [16:28] so what was the answer then? [16:28] Then do cisco shit, not A+ [16:28] comptia is a joke..always has been [16:28] A+ then net+ then ccna then spread out from there [16:28] yah cisco is mind warping. [16:28] The registry *is* included in the system state backup using ntbackup... [16:28] no im not jumping to ccna, a+ gives me confidence :x [16:29] nothhing wrong with getting certs. and you have to start somewhere [16:29] I gave real work answers to fictional issues [16:29] the same test distributor that gives a+ tests are t he same ones that do comptia and a+ is cheaper for me [16:29] slackytude3, yep [16:29] come on what was the backup answer if registry is wrong? [16:29] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-26-241-199.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:29] antiwire, lol i wont say, strat will just tell me how useless i am [16:29] and how i am the next hitler, only a useless hitler [16:29] whatever [16:29] I've been saying how useless A+ is, nimwit [16:29] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-26-241-199.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:29] yea yea [16:29] thats the only thing you said too [16:30] How about this question [16:30] What is the suggested cleaning solution for portable display? [16:30] dont ask strat, i du nno [16:30] acid [16:30] water and a lint-free, soft rask [16:30] alcohol! muhahaha [16:31] wrong strat [16:31] rag^ [16:31] No I'm not. [16:31] wrong again [16:31] yes you are [16:31] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [16:31] No, I'm not. windex is said to eat the protective coating of the LCD panel over time [16:31] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:31] spit on it, use t-shirt to polish [16:31] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-27-229-47.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Success [16:31] Netu (i=JungleCa@212.90.71.82) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )" [16:31] straterra, wrong wrong wrong [16:31] whatever the display manufacturer recommends :p [16:31] No no no [16:31] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [16:31] let the cleanin lady deal with it [16:31] anyone know how i can correct the settings on my dual screens. [16:32] What item needs to be checked on an external CD-R/DVD drive that is not normally checked on an internal drive when installing the drive on a notebook PC? [16:32] Give it to the idiot who has A+ and thinks they know what they are doing? [16:32] acidchild: that's not part of A+ sorry [16:32] lolol [16:32] one screen is a totally diffrent colour to the other. [16:32] Power usage for the external drive [16:32] missyjane, transport thingy [16:32] Unless of course you want speed [16:32] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:33] lol damnit straterra now your answers are vague [16:33] The questions are vague [16:33] How do you fix a routing loop? [16:33] i make straterra do it [16:33] lol [16:33] lol [16:33] take another highway :p [16:33] missyjane: like i said before, without the answers to create the proper context, all of this is vague [16:33] If straterra was doing it, there'd be no routing loop [16:33] antiwire, i know [16:34] wrong straterra, youd just stay overtime for work trying to figure this out [16:34] :D [16:34] Wrong. I'm salary, I don't get overtime [16:34] then the next morning yoU STILL cant figure out [16:34] just expand universe by another dimension and router in the new one [16:34] and I'd just turn STP on and laugh [16:34] you get laid off and someone replaces you [16:34] I don't get laid off because I'm the head server admin and no one else here knows how to do what I do [16:35] got a BOFH shirt? [16:35] funny how people with cert dunno anything and people without cert know everything [16:35] what? [16:35] missyjane: that's because having certs means nothing.. [16:35] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-166-209.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:35] Having a cert means you can memorize and regurgitate information..and thats it [16:36] straterra, well it depends, are you seriously saying someone with a ccie really doesnt mean much to you? [16:36] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:36] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:36] missyjane: All it means is someone had the money to pay for it.. and CCIE is a lot different than A+ [16:36] cert != person knows wtf they are doing [16:36] does cryptsetup can be used with current partitions (in use, w/ files) or only new partitions? [16:36] its the HR guys who deceid that. straterra doesnt get asked [16:36] or any techie [16:36] Yup [16:36] straterra, i know ccie is a lot different than a+, so what do you think of it? [16:37] and so far all the hr guys tell me they want certs :| [16:37] the difference is that Cisco's and the Security certs require demonstarted hands on skills, not just information regurgitation. You have to be able to analyse,and do (sometiems stuff that's not in the books) in order to aposs [16:37] or college degree or experience [16:37] powtrix: new only [16:37] NyteOwl: right [16:37] NyteOwl, so what do you think of security+? [16:37] missyjane, yes, and thats what they are used for, in my experience [16:37] but even then..there are people with cisco certs who are idiots still [16:37] missyjane, to get past the HR guys [16:37] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [16:37] straterra, serious? have you ever met someone with a ccie and is an idiot? [16:37] You can have all the certs in the world and still be a retard... [16:37] Yes [16:37] missyjane: it's a good intro for someone to security but I wouldn't hire security staff based on it :) [16:38] nix_chix0r: hihihi :) [16:38] powtrix: you will lose data if you cryptsetup luksFormat an existing volume with data on it [16:38] Action: ananke watches this with amusement [16:38] hell, Im pretty sure my lpi cert impressed the HR guy and I dont do anything with linux now [16:38] wow there are only 20,000 or so ccie on this planet, how did you manage to meet one? [16:38] so extra work needed heh [16:38] Go to a tradeshow or private demonstration [16:38] thanks for teh info [16:38] powtrix: did you read the README_CRYPT yet? [16:38] im reading it [16:38] i have a fascination with ccie people, how was this ccie guy an idiot? [16:38] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:39] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [16:39] For one, this one was trying to push unneeded upgrades and spewing misinformation about our current hardware [16:40] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [16:40] rg31 (n=deckard@83.231.82.218) joined ##slackware. [16:40] hmm hard to believe... was he a competitor compnay or something? :p i [16:40] oh, a sales guy [16:40] company* -i [16:40] slackytude3: pretty much heh [16:40] yeah, or is he a sales guy? its just hard to believe someone with a ccie is going to be an idiot genuinely [16:40] oh hes a salesman, doesnt count :x [16:40] uh..yes it does [16:40] no it doesnt [16:40] salesman sell lemon cars too [16:41] theyll lie, etc [16:41] and certs don't imply intelligence at all [16:41] what implies intelligence to you then> [16:41] Intelligence [16:41] ?* ugh sorry for typos [16:41] Nick change: arno -> Arno[Slack] [16:41] yeah and how do you know if someone is intelligent? [16:41] The ability to think for ones self..the ability to figure things out..proper reasoning [16:41] Give them a trial [16:41] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Client Quit [16:41] what trial? [16:41] Karmic (n=tux@unaffiliated/karmic) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:42] ah its a sad day for computers everywhere, my return key is fscked =( new keyboard. [16:42] is alienBOB mia? anyone seen him around? [16:42] its like 4months old! and died so soon :( what a sad sad day [16:42] A real world trial..I'd toss the person to a non-critical plant and put them in charge of stuff [16:42] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Operation timed out [16:42] i bitched until they changed it [16:42] I'd have them do real world tasks [16:42] acidchild, sad [16:42] :< [16:42] acidchild: Are you going to give it a proper send off? :P [16:42] i go home tonight or tomorrow night, my choice [16:42] Or..just let someone who isn't an idiot do the screening process [16:42] one small step for a lemming, but a giant leap for all lemminghood [16:42] fire|bird: i think so, to the closet of death! [16:42] Someone who isn't HR [16:42] nyRednek: cool [16:43] straterra, and when do you determine they cant or arent up to the job? there has to be alimit [16:43] fire|bird, http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhvjm31P3apb0sN3L6 funny shit in brookdale ER, brooklyn [16:43] I worked for a company and one of the field engineers was Cisco certified. The jerk's network admin password was ... you guessed it! password! [16:43] because they can work up to a point then suddenly there is something they dunno [16:43] NyteOwl, which cert? ccie or ccna? [16:43] Not knowing something isn't the problem [16:43] about 6 haitians who can't fight trying to throw down [16:43] Not knowing what to do when you don't know is [16:43] Engineer [16:43] engineer is not a certificate :| [16:44] theres only professional, associate, and expert [16:44] CCIE the e stands for engineer [16:44] no it stands for expert [16:44] well yes, they changed it due to complaints from the professionalk engineering groups [16:44] http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/index.html [16:44] itused to be engineer [16:44] lol doesnt mention anything about it being formally engineer in wiki [16:45] nyRednek: wow [16:45] wikipedia is junk for the msot part [16:45] BLASPHEMY [16:45] ZOMG! ITS NOT ON THE WIKI [16:45] anyway [16:45] and we take immigrants from haiti, why? [16:46] brb - need coffee [16:46] straterra, lol so far you dont like ANYTHIN [16:46] straterra, do you have anything against college degrees? [16:46] hell, the dude that sent this to me is ready to find all of them and put them on a slow tramp freighter back to that island [16:46] why would leave haiti for the states? [16:47] missyjane: Sure. They cost too much for also mostly vague information (in relation to IT) [16:47] slackytude3, that was 6 haitian immigrants in the brookdale ER [16:47] straterra, so say, computer science is useless? how much is too much? [16:47] CS is damn useless [16:47] well, CS guys dont admin networks, usually [16:47] It lays some groundwork, I guess.. [16:48] personally, i consider a math degree more useful than a CS degree [16:48] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:48] real experience > CS/certs [16:48] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:48] more like coders or, god help us, software enginers [16:48] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "zzzz" [16:48] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.129.15) left irc: Connection timed out [16:48] straterra, how does one pickup real world experience then? [16:48] or software design, with UML diagrams [16:48] or training with the IBEW(laying wires) [16:49] missyjane, go to work for the phone company...as a line repair assistant [16:50] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:50] missyjane, you get more network experience there than you would ever hope to need [16:50] aye [16:50] missyjane: Get a job..play with stuff when you don't have one [16:50] all I know I learned in ##slackware [16:50] heh [16:50] I got horrible grades in high school..because I'd rather code, play around with systems..etc etc than do homework [16:50] It's paid off too [16:50] missyjane, or you could go to work for a cellular company as an assistant network technician [16:51] :) [16:51] missyjane, playing with slack elevates you way over them plebs ^-^ [16:51] missyjane, that is also a network-intensive job(hope you aren't afraid of heights) [16:51] DAMN! [16:51] nyRednek, and where? i tried craigslist and monster, among other job sites, over 3000 emails sent, nothing [16:51] or drive a truck, and think about moon shades :) [16:52] missyjane, i'll warn you, though, they want you to have 1. an electrical engineering degree or 2. a mathematics degree [16:52] pupit, that's what I do [16:52] nyRednek, precisely my point [16:52] missyjane, well, economy is kinda crappy right now.... [16:52] every if not all of the jobs ive ever searched for want me to have a degree OR cert [16:52] nyRednek: and you are happy with it, aren't u? [16:52] slackytude3, that doesnt help either [16:52] fire|bird: http://ziwall.net/~ash/deathclost.jpg lol [16:52] the starts of my closet [16:52] pupit, i love my job...usually [16:52] missyjane, the truth shall set ya free [16:53] I have a better job than all of you and I'm also smarter than all of you. [16:53] pupit, i have bad days [16:53] wtf acidchild [16:53] acidchild: haha, nice. [16:53] justin`, yet we still caught you having a wank in the corner [16:53] acidchild, heh, looks like my old setup, lol [16:53] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:53] acidchild: looks like some items have hanged themselves. :P [16:53] slackytude3: when i moved in i found a metal plate in the ceiling [16:54] nyRednek: as all do :) keep smilling :) [16:54] found out all the wiring for the apartment terminates there :D [16:54] I like the stacked monitors on top. :P [16:54] acidchild, nifty [16:54] so now i got 1000mbit duplex all around :D [16:54] nyRednek, nothing wrong with that, I didn't try to hide it [16:54] bedroom, office, front room next to the TV [16:54] justin`, it was like a train wreck, hard to watch [16:54] you mean hard to look away you moron [16:54] fire|bird: hehe :D i tried selling them :P [16:55] justin`, have you seen a massive wreck recently? you may not be able to look away, but it's still hard to watch [16:55] fire|bird: no takers ;< [16:55] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:55] acidchild: What's wrong with them? [16:55] How come I thought there was a FF SBo for 3.5? ;/ lol [16:55] nothing, perfect, including all cables too [16:56] lf4: because you're an idiot. :P [16:56] Guest88037 (n=sol@12.53.192.186) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:56] 3 19" screens [16:56] acidchild: Why are they sitting in a closet then? :P [16:56] crt? [16:56] coz i got 8 servers in there [16:56] i want a 21" and a KVM insted though [16:56] justin`, come back when your experiences match your age [16:56] Action: lf4 slaps fire|bird :P [16:56] slackytude3: no, LCD [16:56] slackytude3: no, they're flat panels [16:56] oh [16:56] Action: fire|bird kicks lf4 [16:57] acidchild: I have a 22" widescreen. I don't even have room for any more monitors. :P [16:57] Action: lf4 stabs fire|bird [16:57] nyRednek: where's your truck, hit lf4 with it, please. :P [16:57] fire|bird, it's parked [16:57] fire|bird, newburgh, ny [16:58] \o/ [16:58] lf4: You got lucky this time. :) [16:58] i'll drop off in cherry hill, nj tomorrow then my ass is gone home [16:58] fire|bird: yah, i got two 21"'s [16:58] fire|bird: works fine for me :D [16:58] acidchild: nice :) [16:58] fire|bird: 48" in the front room though :P [16:58] :O [16:59] 120hz 1080p [16:59] meh baby [16:59] 60" HD TV ftw! [16:59] nice [16:59] Action: fire|bird steals lf4's tv [16:59] i asked her if i was in for a 'meeting' after, she says no... [16:59] Only connected the computer to it twice haha almost two years ago. [17:00] the power of the ultimate jewish weapon(tm)(_hebrew_hammer_ reference) [17:01] wut the fuck [17:01] ;/ [17:01] I guess I gotta go off [17:01] another day in the coal mine tomorrow [17:02] later slackytude3 [17:02] I mean, server room [17:02] see ya slackytude3 [17:02] RJz0r (n=taterz@lawlz.net) left irc: ":|" [17:02] Action: slackytude3 o/ [17:02] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.216) left irc: [17:03] >.> [17:03] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-120.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.39.185) joined ##slackware. [17:04] !ping [17:05] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [17:05] nyRednek: download 'mtr' [17:05] hey strat one last question (everyone else can chip in if you want) [17:05] what are the steps for laser printers? [17:06] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:06] missyjane, ? [17:06] missyjane, you mean the imaging, transfer, then burn-in cycles? [17:06] yes but gimme the steps [17:07] Nick change: stig -> Guest17533 [17:07] steps? [17:07] missyjane, that should be in the text book [17:07] clean condition write develop transfer fuse [17:07] I have a really mean saying that helps me remember that [17:07] hey dive [17:07] plug in laser printer..plug in network cable..give ip addy..insert fuser, and the 4 toner carts...let warm up..use o.O [17:07] dive did you just enter conversation? lol [17:07] OH..comptia steps [17:08] fire|bird, antiwire hi [17:08] Not real world steps [17:08] straterra, no how laser printer works [17:08] i just typed them [17:08] let me see if you are correct hold on [17:08] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [17:08] missyjane, I did it too for exam but can't remember it all now [17:08] electrons charged on the drum then the toner sticks to it.... [17:08] i use a really mean acronym saying to remember them [17:08] missyjane: Like? Cleaning, Charging, Writing, Developing, Transferring, Fusing? [17:09] antiwire, which is? [17:09] antiwire: what is it? :) [17:09] antiwire, do tell [17:09] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-26-241-199.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:09] clean c**ts won't do the fsck [17:09] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-86-26-241-199.brhm.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] lame [17:09] haha [17:09] lf4 cheated! [17:09] . [17:09] I didn't cheat [17:09] hahaha [17:09] missyjane: how? [17:09] bastards ripping me off [17:09] dunno its the same thing my book is telling me lol [17:09] see strat, how come they kn ow [17:10] know* and you dont? :p [17:10] Action: lf4 looked it up in his book. Pg 375 :P [17:10] anybody knows how to remeber OSI layer model [17:10] A P*** So Tight No D*** Penetrates [17:10] physical media-access network transport session presentation application [17:10] now, Im off [17:10] slackytude3: hahah [17:10] LOL [17:10] slackytude3: I did at one point. [17:10] hahaha [17:10] hahaha [17:11] later slackytude3 [17:11] see ya slackytude3 [17:11] well, Ive got a A in that test [17:11] it works [17:11] slackytude3: Just don't make the mistake of writing that on the test. :P [17:11] lol thats evil... [17:11] Action: lf4 is going to take the Net+ just for that reason now. [17:11] fire|bird, I did but deleted it afterwards <_< [17:11] missyjane, what does knowing that prove exactly? [17:11] slackytude3: haha [17:12] missyjane, the more naughty or evil it is, the better you remeber it [17:12] darkwurm, i ask you what i asked dive, did you just enter conversation? i am not going to explain everything [17:12] http://www.veracode.com/blog/2009/07/blackberry-spyware-dissected/ [17:12] i have join/part turned off [17:12] I'll never forget the osi layer model now, or how a laser printer works. :P [17:12] Action: slackytude3 really away now [17:12] I have a friend who is a laser printer technician. Knowing the steps of the process what what each step does allows you to determine which replaceable part is at fault [17:13] Action: missyjane thumbs up for antiwire [17:13] ++ antiwire [17:13] see straterra? its not entirely useless :x [17:13] It is for me [17:13] missyjane, I couldn't be arsed look in scrollback but I gather you're doing A+ [17:13] same with the ccie guy, being a salesman doesnt count ,salesman will say *ANYTHING* [17:13] You see..I have this really nifty number.. [17:13] dive yes [17:13] Do you know what the number is for? [17:13] straterra, no [17:13] its your salary? [17:13] Our Xerox technician [17:13] lol [17:14] straterra: I have an HP now what? ;) [17:14] oh close it enough, i assumed you were making more than a few million [17:14] I put this magical number in this nifty little electronic device known as a phone [17:14] straterra: haha that's exactly my reference's position. All he does is printers [17:14] xD [17:14] antiwire: So..its useful for him :) [17:14] yep, since that's his damn job [17:14] straterra doesnt want to admit academic stuff can be useful [17:14] For me, if its anything beyond changing out fusers/toner..the Xerox guy gets a call. [17:14] and i do mean damn [17:15] missyjane: Comptia is a waste of money..as is a CS degree [17:15] antiwire, i did work as a printer tech [17:15] indeed and it is not IT techs job to go fishing around in printer for anything more than removing paper jam or changing toner cartridge [17:15] hi dive missyjane [17:15] =) [17:15] dive: exactly [17:15] hi [17:15] hi fire|bird =) [17:15] hi fredoslack [17:15] straterra, man everything is useless to you [17:15] antiwire, business attire that, more often than not, must be changed 3x a day due to the grime and toner in the printers [17:15] missyjane: no..experience isn't [17:16] straterra, experience is hard to get without those degrees or certs, since you arent getting past hr [17:16] hi ananke :) [17:16] uhm..no its not [17:16] CS degrees are usesful, if you want to design something >.> [17:16] antiwire * :) [17:16] you will never work for google if you have nothing [17:16] You don't need a job to get experience [17:16] Like I said..do things on your own [17:16] well your experience is more valuable in a production environment than homoe [17:16] youll never be able to work on racks or [17:16] BAH i mean home [17:16] straterra, i'm figuring missyjane is going for a best buy or staples job to get some initial experience [17:16] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [17:17] What is a better degree CS or CIT? [17:17] so? I'm not talking about value to a worker. I'm talking about learning how be self teaching [17:17] hi slackboy >> http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Endormi/0004.gif [17:17] lool [17:17] Once you teach yourself how to properly learn and use logic to find issues..you become more valuable than most brainless cert carriers [17:17] lf4, i'd say CS since it gives you a deeper understanding of the primitives [17:17] nyRednek, no i wanna work for something like att as a system administrator or something [17:17] straterra, so how do you prove that you have those experience?\ [17:17] missyjane, not with an a+ you won't [17:17] rg31 (n=deckard@83.231.82.218) left irc: "Leaving." [17:18] By..putting it in your resume [17:18] Sure, you can lie..but when you get hired and can't do the job..tough [17:18] nyRednek, not you too lol i never said it stops at a+ [17:18] nyRednek: I have been going back and forth between those two for a long time. [17:18] straterra, lying = bad, im not a liar, maybe you are :| [17:18] Also, HR usually has general questions. The job I'm at now, I was interviewed by the CIO and another tech [17:18] If I were a liar, I wouldn't have the job I have now. [17:18] what state are you in strat? [17:18] Indiana [17:18] missyjane, i've seen the job requirements for those jobs...and said fsck it, i'll go drive my truck some more [17:18] missyjane: lol You'll need more then A+ for that job at AT&T, I can ask what requirements they look for if you want. [17:19] lol lf4 not you too :| [17:19] camden (n=camden@ancnat2.apto.aptalaska.net) joined ##slackware. [17:19] ok here is my goal, ccie is endgoal, any problem now? can we get that straight? [17:19] hi folks [17:19] :| [17:19] lf4: Damn the truth! [17:19] go to truck driving school missyjane you can be driving an 18 wheeler in a month [17:19] Then study cisco shit, not A+ [17:19] Download a simulator and play [17:19] psh no i have no confidence now [17:19] has anybody been having problems with nvidia gfx cards, slackware 12.2, and compiz? [17:19] missyjane, if you think certs will give you everything you need to know to not only land a job but know what your doing should you get it, you're deluding yourself [17:19] or two weeks, whever the course it, it dont take long [17:19] lf4, they want a bachelor's, but prefer a master's in either computer science(not MIS or CIT) or mathematics [17:20] camden: which kernel version? [17:20] missyjane: A+ doesn't really cover Cisco stuff at all Net+ would be the closes you could get with out doing actual Cisco certs. [17:20] darkwurm, i think cert is a start, thats all, anything else is you jumping to conclusion and making assumptions [17:20] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [17:20] 2.6.27.7-smp [17:20] lf4, yeaeh i know [17:20] A+ isn't a start [17:20] lf4, further, they want you to put in between 2 and 5 years at some bs company before applying AFTER finishing college [17:20] After you have the A+ cert..you're no closer [17:20] straterra, since a+ is oh-so-easy, its a start [17:20] you're just out the time and money [17:20] nyRednek: Yeah I've noticed that with most, I just don't really want to get the CS major haha I think I have to apply for that degree. :P [17:20] just HAVING it doesn't get you anything [17:20] It doesn't guarantee a damn thing [17:21] if i had a a+, net+, ccna, ccie, im pretty sure im guaranteed a job [17:21] ive never seen a ccie without a job [17:21] nyRednek: I already have the experiance its just the degree I lack. [17:21] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [17:21] No you aren't. [17:21] although pcworld (retail UK version) use it as a start point for pc repairers [17:21] missyjane: You will need CCNP before CCIE [17:21] missyjane, but not guaranteed you know how to do it... [17:21] how am i not? [17:21] Not if you just have the certs and don't know how to adapt and actually FIX stuff [17:21] antiwire: 2.6.27.7-smp [17:21] Skywise (n=noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) left irc: "Why be difficult when, with a bit of effort, you could be impossible?" [17:21] lf4, true [17:21] arcsky (n=arcsky@2a01:48:100:1:1:0:0:1c2) joined ##slackware. [17:21] darkwurm, not if you are ccie folks :x [17:21] matsuura (n=umeii@unaffiliated/matsuura) joined ##slackware. [17:21] Action: lf4 wants to take the CCIE test just for the 8hr lab they give you. :) [17:21] r_linux (n=r_linux@200.225.95.150) left irc: "..." [17:21] anyone know a cmd for check when a file is created? [17:21] nyRednek: http://i26.tinypic.com/2m28110.jpg [17:22] the lips on rod go round and round, round and round, round and round... [17:22] lips on rod? [17:22] antiwire, is that what happens when you go messing around in a printer? [17:22] rod of dynasty! [17:22] lf4, well, you can go to night school at your local public university to get your undergrad in mathematics(and it's more interesting, imho, than just CS, which is essentially a 1.5 yr of basics and 2.5yr of abstract computer theory) [17:22] lol [17:22] what a mess! [17:22] lf4, lol its very hard, and as i said ive never met a ccie who didnt know anything [17:23] antiwire, that's familiar [17:23] antiwire, the chick is cute...got her number? we could trade printer nightmare experiences over a few drinks [17:24] nyRednek: true, at one school here the CS degree is required to take higher level math classes then some mathematics degrees. [17:24] I'll clean her fuser [17:24] Psh..I'll give her some new toner [17:24] missyjane, that doesn't mean anything either, I would expect them to know something but that doesn't mean they will be good at it regardless. [17:24] Hope I don't spill the ink though [17:24] darkwurm, lol sigh [17:25] antiwire, i was actually concerned with getting to know her, not just using her as a breathing masturbation tool [17:25] Know...her? [17:25] biblical sense ;) [17:25] lol [17:25] oh..lay with her [17:26] antiwire, but i'm sure it's a stock photo [17:26] covet her ox? [17:26] bring shame to her household [17:26] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:26] I've had that image for years in my image directory. I have no idea who she is but the mess is awesome. [17:26] -.- [17:26] straterra, i may be a male, but i'm not a complete whore [17:27] TRANNY! [17:27] who you trying to pan that lie on? [17:27] :P [17:27] dive: Can I try a XMPP audio run really quick? just a few second test [17:27] sure [17:28] Necos, who said a thing about lying...? there are a few details i'm not letting out, but you guys are a bit off the mark [17:28] antiwire, robot voice, cam hear typing. Try turning off mic boost. [17:28] dive: I don't have MIC boost [17:28] let me mess with alsa one sec [17:29] nyRednek: likes guys! he's coming out of the closet now. [17:29] lol nyRednek [17:30] if nyRednek is in NY, then it has no bearing on me, as i'm on the other side of the country :P [17:30] lf4, no, i'm not into guys...something about testicles that aren't mine that reeps me out [17:30] s/reeps/creeps [17:30] Necos: same here :) [17:30] samuelig (n=samuelig@94.pool85-57-129.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:30] but i wouldn't mind if she were into girls [17:30] who? [17:30] same deal? [17:30] nyRednek: who said the guys haven't had surgery? [17:30] antiwire, I could hear you find that time [17:30] nyRednek, lets meet up [17:31] missyjane: booo :P [17:31] dive: Last night agentc0re and I could talk fine but only if I sent [17:31] lol missyjane [17:31] nyRednek: don't do it [17:31] let me check my alsa [17:31] You don't like testicles [17:31] missyjane, LOL [17:31] lol straterra your loss, as im testicleless, i even offered webcam to prove myself but you turned me down [17:31] if you see missyjane in the distance, it's already too late [17:31] then again you say everything bad about me [17:31] antiwire, try again [17:31] lol missyjane webcam spoof? [17:31] luceroz (n=luceroz@76.31.194.150) left irc: "leaving" [17:31] nyRednek: for your sake, I hope you don't have a webcam :P [17:31] chopp, i don't [17:31] lol [17:32] insist on pics, gotta have pics [17:32] Why would I look at a webcam from someone in ##slackware who I haven't talked to? [17:32] straterra, we havent talked? this doesnt count? [17:32] lf4, dunno how [17:32] hmm [17:32] I hear no voice with this [17:32] ok [17:32] dive: damn this stuff! [17:32] see? not my fault :x ive offered [17:32] let me try send [17:32] dive: can you try to send to me..yeah [17:32] lol [17:33] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] clicking [17:33] yep [17:33] here's the thing, if i was to meet someone, i'd arrange meeting at a public place, like union square...without photos...identifying clothing, and i'd wear something i could hide if i decided to keep walking [17:33] Besides..I have a gf..I don't random webcam with people [17:33] nyRednek: and a .38 special [17:33] dive: last night we also tested with and without upnp and it didn't make a difference [17:33] straterra: I dont think blowup dolls count [17:33] lf4: nah..she's breathing [17:33] better patch that before she goes flat [17:33] dive: oh well, new software [17:34] straterra, i've got a rohm model 57, that .38 tickles in comparison [17:34] Perhaps..but a .38 Special isn't a bad personal protection firewarm..relatively small [17:34] lol [17:34] just meet me in a public place then [17:34] or get on webcam [17:34] antiwire, send one more time - I just found a capture slider [17:34] saves the subway fare and time [17:34] Action: missyjane rolls eyes [17:35] Yay ^^ [17:35] same [17:35] camden (n=camden@ancnat2.apto.aptalaska.net) left ##slackware. [17:35] I found solution [17:35] missyjane: don't roll em too long, they'll get stuck that way. :P [17:35] straterra, something about that extra powder that drives that slug a .38 packs home [17:35] straterra, lemme guess, are you against the military too? [17:35] missyjane: Why would I be? [17:36] agentc0re|work (n=jon@heartslc.com) joined ##slackware. [17:36] youve been against everything [17:36] y0 agentc0re|work [17:36] so you would join the military? [17:36] straterra, a rohm 57 is essentially the same calibre as a .38... .357 [17:36] hey agentc0re|work [17:36] sup fire|bird? [17:36] nyRednek: I carry overvelocity hollowpoints in my .38 Special [17:36] lf4: yo dude. [17:36] Does the trick [17:36] agentc0re|work: nothing much, ##slackware's been entertaining today, :P you? [17:36] missyjane: Sure [17:36] Damnit, and i've been missing it. [17:36] agentc0re|work: when do you get off work? [17:36] if someone'd have problem such mine, let he visit http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/11/29/easeus-partition-manager-30-home-edition-free-download-partitionmagic-alternative/ [17:36] lf4: around 5. [17:37] straterra, and did you? [17:37] now i'll go to install slackware :) [17:37] Did I what? [17:37] fire|bird: wish me luck [17:37] straterra, some .38's are bad about chemical buildup on those +p .38 spl rounds [17:37] udevd_: :), good luck [17:37] fire|bird: so what have i missed? [17:37] nyRednek: mine seems to do ok [17:37] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [17:37] straterra, cool [17:37] I'm debating getting a .45 ACP though [17:37] agentc0re|work: the party \o/ [17:37] Away :) [17:37] straterra, the only down side about mine...it's obvious that i'm packing [17:38] lol [17:38] agentc0re|work: missyjane's been quizing the channel on A+ exam questions. :) [17:38] Right heh [17:38] brb [17:38] straterra, it's hard to conceal a large frame revolver that has a 4" barrel [17:38] fire|bird: OO i got a good one for that stuff. [17:38] I bet [17:38] missyjane: just come over to this neck of the woods :P [17:38] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FIVE-FIFTY.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [17:39] straterra, i just carry it open with my shirt over it(legally concealed by nyc standards) [17:39] http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/generic/a651/zoom/ [17:39] I had my eyes on a .45 at the local gun shop for a while..it's been so long since I've been, I forget the maker [17:39] has the tactical night sights [17:39] Necos, lol where do you live? [17:39] brb gotta run and move my car [17:39] lol [17:39] koreatown / LS && [17:39] missyjane: I haven't joined the military..I've no reason to atm [17:39] LA [17:39] what kind of reason would you join for? [17:39] Necos, far [17:40] Where are you located missyjane ? [17:40] Protect my homeland.. [17:40] lol this is what i get for leaving screwdrivers on my kb [17:40] ny [17:40] brb [17:40] up state or city? [17:40] Also, I'm doing very well in my life atm..I'd rather not give all of that up to join the military [17:40] Action: Pagan_Soul is away: (to home) [BX-MsgLog On] [17:41] oh noe [17:41] m .45ACP [17:41] nyRednek, i like the .45 LC, for its multi-use purposes [17:42] dreamcage (n=marcio@201.86.187.117.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:42] missyjane, i'll be back in the city tomorrow night [17:42] .45LC is a nice cartridge but is a revolver cartridge. fine for them as lieks though [17:43] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [17:43] nyRednek, again, the multi-use would be the reason to use it [17:44] NyteOwl, rather [17:44] hmm [17:44] fsck me...i get tab happy [17:44] except for open carry it would be hard to conceal. Most LC capable revolvers are NOT small [17:44] nyRednek, true [17:45] .38 special [17:45] NyteOwl, even [17:45] damn [17:45] Colt Commander is a nice carry (.45ACP) [17:46] for a semi-custom pistol WIlson COmbat is ahrd to beat for quality [17:46] nyRednek: you need to see someone about that talking to yourself, it's getting out of hand. :P [17:46] lol [17:46] i seen a small 5 shot 38 special with a 2 inch barrel that was easily concealable [17:46] revolver [17:46] Action: lf4 wants a G32 or G21 :P [17:46] this is what I carry http://tinyurl.com/n49hl9 [17:46] CCW [17:47] nice [17:47] lol [17:47] w. t. f. [17:47] wow "D [17:47] antiwire: haha [17:47] shut up it's tacticool [17:47] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:47] must be some new specialist special forces toy [17:47] Stop, or I'll... Blind you! [17:47] lol [17:47] antiwire: to bad it shoots only 8mm plastic bb's :P [17:48] Action: dive wants a blunderbus [17:48] it's still rad [17:48] you guys just can't appreciate a truly fine firearm [17:48] Action: antiwire runs [17:48] http://mediafetcher.com/article_full.php?id=111350 - [17:48] http://mediafetcher.com/article_full.php?id=111350 - 2009-07-24: banned The Family Guy - sheer me skit [17:48] ColInvictus (n=chatzill@92-233-162-175.cable.ubr09.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:48] oops double post :) [17:48] Action: NyteOwl doesn't like plastic pistols [17:48] i want one of those paintball guns that shoots paintballs full of powdered pepperspray [17:48] acidchild: newb! [17:48] :P [17:49] :> [17:49] www.wilsoncombat.com [17:49] lol [17:49] acidchild: that reminds me of that "we didn't start the flame war" video. [17:49] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] klock (n=klock@bas10-quebec14-1177912581.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:50] agentc0re|work: hahaha, nice shirt. :P [17:50] lf4, you got enough attachments for that piece of junk? [17:50] fire|bird: isn't it? :D [17:50] agentc0re|work: indeed it is, you have one? :P [17:50] nyRednek: huh? [17:50] fire|bird: They need one with all Female attachments and another with All Male. [17:51] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.162.159) joined ##slackware. [17:51] s/lf4/antiwire [17:51] haha [17:51] fail [17:51] agentc0re|work: haha, yeah, for sure. [17:51] And if you were to hug your significant other, you would be "plugging in" to eachother. [17:51] haha [17:51] lf4, yeah, i'm building up my month supply of fail [17:51] ya'll posting in a troll thread [17:51] ColInvictus (n=chatzill@92-233-162-175.cable.ubr09.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]" [17:52] agentc0re|work: I can see it now, a girl would hug her guy, one connection would miss and she'd be all upset "OMG, we're not meant to be together" :P [17:52] lol [17:52] this is my other piece http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj123/jonwaite/TacticoolGlock.jpg [17:52] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:53] colofnature (n=ColInvic@92-233-162-175.cable.ubr09.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:53] antiwire, pure junk on a perfectly good pistol [17:53] colofnature (n=ColInvic@92-233-162-175.cable.ubr09.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) left ##slackware. [17:53] antiwire: Ok now that person who did that just needs to be stabbed and then shoot with that junk. Messing up a glock with that junk lol [17:54] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:55] antiwire: nice piece. me likes the grenade launcher %) [17:55] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:55] glocks are messed up anyway, what's a bit more :p [17:55] john_dee: yeah, until that hacked together junk backfires. :P [17:56] NyteOwl: Why say that? [17:56] antiwire: wow the kick from that 203 would be awful. [17:56] fire|bird: ha. yeah, it can do that i guess ^) [17:56] nyRednek: junk? lol.. ever fired a 203 before? [17:57] lf4: ever ehar of "glock leg" It's a direct result of teh stupid "safety" system glock uses [17:57] still that things look scary. even if it scares the owner %) [17:57] only [17:57] agentc0re|work, i meant all the attachments...you don't need all that [17:57] NyteOwl: No I haven't I'll check it out now. [17:57] brb [17:57] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [17:58] ##slackware is now a better place [17:58] \O/ [17:58] hm. i suppose mkswap is not working propertly :> [17:58] colofnature (n=ColInvic@92-233-162-175.cable.ubr09.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:58] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427485.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:59] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [17:59] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-192-215.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:00] hello [18:00] hello [18:00] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:00] echo hello [18:01] hm i saw in easus part. manager, my partitions are unknown [18:01] re lf4, antiwire [18:02] in slack dvd's fdisk i saw partition type = linux. i don't know, what's that, actually ;] [18:02] linux = set up for ext# [18:03] mhm [18:03] what if i want to make swap part.? [18:03] then you have to change it to linux/swap which is 82 [18:03] anyone have a nice ITAM? [18:04] How? i tried to run `mkswap /dev/sda3`, but it didn't work [18:04] john_dee (n=id@93-81-141-157.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [18:05] udevd_: Did you fdisk/cfdisk the partition? [18:05] yup [18:05] there weren't any errors. [18:06] and both partitions are x83 [18:06] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:06] udevd_: if you want one to be swap it has to be set to 82 in cfdisk [18:07] hm. it didn't eem to be such option [18:07] *eem [18:07] *seem [18:07] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [18:07] do cfdisk /dev/sda3 and highlight the partition you want to use a swap then hit "t" for type and look for 82 it shows it as swap [18:08] thanks :) [18:08] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:08] do x83 is ext4? [18:09] udevd_: I think so, but I messed with ext4 only once. [18:09] ok [18:09] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [18:09] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:11] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:13] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] nlhisto (n=nlhisto_@acmn150.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [18:17] anyone??? [18:17] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [18:17] know of a good opensource IT asset manager? [18:18] udevd_, x83 is ext, ext2, ext3, ext4 [18:18] stybla_ (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] thanks [18:18] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:19] hi stybla_ [18:19] adrien (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:19] yo channel, I'm happy to announce that I'm drunk :) [18:20] Nick change: adrien -> Camarade_TUx [18:20] Nick change: Camarade_TUx -> Camarade_Tux [18:20] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] congrats Camarade_Tux [18:20] :) [18:20] 1.5L of 10 degres beer [18:20] (or more) [18:23] Action: fire|bird takes all Camarade_Tux's booze and gives it to BP{k} [18:24] Anyone ever setup a guest access in their work network and have it separated out so the only thing they get is web? [18:25] fire|bird: bah, what do you think? I drank it all! [18:25] 1.5l? that's not even a six pack - wimp :P [18:25] Camarade_Tux: no, but if you're drunk, you may think that's a good idea. :P [18:25] agentc0re|work We did that not with accounts but with Vlan's. [18:25] I bought booze before going to a friend, started drinking there, came back and stopped by a friend and finished the beer :D [18:26] Did I miss something? How can a fresh full install of 12.2 not have installpkg? [18:26] NyteOwl: actually maybe only 1L but, it's strong beer, not 3 degrees, more than 10 degrees [18:26] Camarade_Tux: now just go find a french maid and tell her she's purdy. :P [18:26] a maid? :D [18:26] lol [18:26] fire|bird: you watch too much porn :D [18:26] haha [18:26] Camarade_Tux: still ... [18:26] I don't watch any. :/ [18:27] Camarade_Tux: fire|bird has a clean mind and is vary inocent :P [18:27] fire|bird: you go see strippers too often then ;p [18:27] lf4: nah, he's a complete perv! [18:27] nope, don't do that either. [18:28] fire|bird = baby|bird [18:28] someone said beer, [18:28] plz! [18:28] NyteOwl: he, I could drink <5 degrees beer all day like water [18:28] lf4: WHAT?!?!? [18:28] ;) [18:28] hi folks, i need debugging symbols for slackware, there is any pkg for that? [18:28] I'm 24 you insensitive clod [18:29] fire|bird: when did you turn 24? [18:29] Action: fire|bird hits lf4 over the head with his logitech keyboard. [18:29] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:29] lf4: This year. :D [18:29] ovnicraft: afaik, all packages strip debugging symbols [18:29] Action: lf4 pulls out his logitech keyboard ready to fight. [18:29] fire|bird: haha your a few months older them me. [18:29] lf4: Dang it, all my keys flew off. [18:30] lf4: you hard headed....... :P [18:30] NyteOwl: see, no typo in my message even though I typed it with an extreme lag and saw nothing of what I typed [18:30] Action: lf4 nods :D [18:30] no, "you're hard disked" [18:30] that's it, I'm not drunk anymore [18:30] lf4: yup, only difference, I can spell. :P [18:30] sigh, I'll never fall asleep now [18:30] Well, I can't type without keys, but I can spell. :) [18:30] fire|bird: I ma' edumacated two :P [18:31] lf4: The Redneck school of grammar doesn't count, especially when the teacher was grammy in her moomoo in a trailer. :P [18:31] Camarade_Tux, i need it :| [18:32] fire|bird: Don't bring back those memories for me... they will forever haunt me. [18:32] lol [18:32] What's a good console based web browser that can navigate and post on forums? [18:32] elinks [18:32] elinks [18:32] :P fire|bird beat you this time haha [18:33] ovnicraft: need what? :o [18:33] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] how do i get 32 bit colors with the nv driver ? [18:33] lf4: Remember, all my keys are gone. :P I have to use a pen to press down the key's membrane now. [18:33] deco: 24 in linux is 32bit if I remember correctly. [18:33] With a pen in each hand I can get going pretty good though [18:33] arcsky (n=arcsky@2a01:48:100:1:1:0:0:1c2) left irc: "leaving" [18:33] Camarade_Tux, python gdb [18:34] if4 oh ok but how do i set that ? using the nv driver [18:34] fire|bird: careful don't poke your eye out. [18:34] deco: in the xorg.config [18:34] lf4: haha, alright, I'll be careful [18:35] Action: lf4 hands fire|bird safety glasses. [18:35] \o/ [18:35] if4 thanks [18:35] lf4: thanks [18:36] deco: pleasure. [18:36] ovnicraft: that's what you get for coding in pythong [18:36] bad, I typed pythong again [18:36] I do'nt know whay but I always typed an ednig g (exterme lag, tbw) [18:36] Wow Camarade_Tux that is bad lag even for irc. [18:36] lf4: going through a computer that ... lags [18:37] don't know why [18:37] Camarade_Tux, i need debugging symbols for python not another ide [18:38] or text editor :| [18:38] ovnicraft: oh, forgot my memory, alcohol doesn't help :) [18:38] ovnicraft: but python is bad :) [18:39] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [18:41] Action: brbrbr greet all [18:41] zsh is great to expand /o/w/l into /opt/webkit/lib64 but when you can't get where you want to go, it doesn't help anyway :D [18:41] yo brbrbr [18:42] hi :-) [18:43] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:43] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:43] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:44] colofnature (n=ColInvic@92-233-162-175.cable.ubr09.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [18:45] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:46] tux (n=tux@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:47] hmmm, need to pee [18:47] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:47] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:48] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [18:49] well, night all [18:50] gn [18:50] gn [18:53] i need the slackbuid to recompile python for slackware 12.2, where i can find it [18:53] ? [18:54] probably on the mirrors [18:54] yep, on the mirros [18:55] tuvok302, slackbuild.org could works? [18:55] and what you want is not to enable debugging symbols but to skip stripping every binary when running makepkg [18:55] (or before) [18:55] ovnicraft: if it's not on slackbuild.org you can find it at ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-12.2/source/d/python/ [18:56] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/source/d/python/ [18:57] tux, i am debugging python app, it has a segmentation fault and i need identify it [18:57] gnome-hackers tell that gtk app is buggy [18:58] ovnicraft: using pygtk? [19:01] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:01] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [19:02] tux, yes [19:02] slackware provide glib-dbg? [19:03] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:03] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [19:03] truzicic (n=toma@83-131-233-170.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:03] ovnicraft: sure the crash isn't gtk? [19:04] truzicic (n=toma@78-3-237-178.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [19:05] tux, yes gdb tell me that, now i need debugging symbols inside to identify the fault [19:05] so slackware dont provide debug packages? [19:07] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [19:07] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] join ##woodchucks [19:08] i need to know if slackware provide debug packages [19:08] join ##woodchucks [19:08] bahh [19:08] fail [19:08] lol [19:08] greetings andarius, how are you? :P [19:08] yes, today i really do :( [19:08] :| [19:08] salutations fire|bird, i am not doing well. you ? [19:08] lol [19:08] andarius: doing great, thanks. :) [19:09] keyboard fail for me today :( [19:09] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FIVE-FIFTY.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [19:09] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [19:09] twice no less. [19:09] a lot more than twice :( [19:09] time to call it a day? [19:09] already done. i am at home prepping chow [19:10] dngr (n=dngr@n11649134204.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [19:10] so i guess slack dont provide them :( [19:10] cool, I'm just eating right now. :P [19:10] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:10] ovnicraft: you'd need to get rid of the pygtk layer and code in straight C to get any useful bug report btw [19:11] tux, but i need that tools, so i think slack must provide them [19:12] slack is not required to rpovide anything [19:12] regardless of what you may think [19:13] andarius, yes i know 'provide' in my world :( [19:13] ovnicraft: I think Microsoft should provide software that isn't bloated buggy patchcode... doesn't mean they do [19:13] it installed =^^= [19:13] andarius: I knew I smelt something burning :) [19:13] my brain was surely it :( [19:14] lol [19:14] lol [19:14] Chapter 2 - Types, Operators and Expressions. [19:14] dodo, really going to bed now ;) [19:14] python is recompiling, maybe i post the pkg if anyone will need it :| [19:15] truzicic (n=toma@78-3-237-178.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:16] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] Billtoo_ (n=puppy@bas4-unionville55-1279488427.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:17] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:17] alice_c (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:18] tux, to get glib-dbg i must to do same job with glib? [19:19] grazymax (n=grazymax@host207-55-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:20] ovnicraft: the whole chain [19:20] bed, at last :) [19:20] Action: tux poofs [19:20] tux (n=tux@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [19:21] adrien (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:21] I'd prefer this screen not to disconnect every few hour [19:22] Billtoo_ (n=puppy@bas4-unionville55-1279488427.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [19:23] eh? [19:23] Nick change: adrien -> Camarade_Tux [19:23] d [19:23] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [19:24] ctrl+a-d? [19:24] blarg [19:24] actually it's not screen, it's the computer [19:24] stybla_ (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:25] eh? [19:25] faulty connection Camarade_Tux? [19:27] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:27] dchmelik1 (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:27] rworkman: ping? [19:27] greetings macavity, how are you? [19:27] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:27] Necos: it's..... weird [19:27] and not _my_ connection [19:27] alice_c (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:28] anyway, really really really bed now :) [19:28] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:28] fire|bird: not so good.. my wifi AP has started double posing its ESSID.. [19:28] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:28] macavity: yikes [19:28] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:29] fire|bird: in the iwlist output i now see ESSID: "Broendum" ESSID: "" [19:29] fire|bird: this causes wicd to get all confused... i can connect directly with wpa_supplicant, but not with wicd [19:29] so stop confusing wicd :P [19:30] i have not touched the APs configuration for a year [19:30] so, either this has something to do with a recent update, or foul play is involved [19:30] have you checked the AP with another machine ? [19:30] andarius: It's hard to unconfuse something that's confused when your confused about what's going on. :D [19:30] uhm, the problem is that we only have upto date slackware machines under this roof [19:30] fire|bird: pardon? im confused :P [19:30] haha [19:31] andarius: my point exactly. :P [19:31] lol [19:31] macavity: live CDs ftw :P [19:31] right [19:31] Action: macavity is out of empty [19:31] thumb drives... [19:32] what good user doesnt keep a live CD on hand :| [19:32] i should get one.. but this month i used the extra mony for a nice prying pan :P [19:32] prying pan? [19:32] Action: andarius wonders what a prying pan is god for... replacing a crow bar perhaps [19:32] lf4: *frying :P [19:32] get a cast iron skillet [19:33] uhm, no.. i just got an titanium ceramics [19:33] that is teh shithe! :P [19:34] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] cooking with shithe just sounds like a bad idea :| [19:34] lol [19:34] Action: lf4 agrees [19:34] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:34] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:35] andarius: brings a new meaning to "This tastes like......" [19:35] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:35] nahh, just means the response is fixed to "of course, what do you think I cooked it with" ;) [19:35] haha [19:36] andarius: so what is the safe temp to get that so you wont be sick? [19:36] you need to ask macavity for that one, i dont do it [19:36] lf4: 2,010° or until golden brown (err, well.......) [19:37] lol fire|bird [19:37] oookey... i just did iwlist wlan0 scan a couple of times.. and the output is not consistant about the ESSID setting S-/ [19:37] macavity: so whats the safety temp? [19:37] fire|bird: umm, what if it starts that color ? [19:37] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:37] lf4: 400 degrees C [19:37] andarius: hence the (err, well......) part, maybe until black? [19:38] perhaps color is not a good measure ;) [19:38] i.e. 752° F lf4 [19:38] andarius: In this case, it would seem to not be a good measurement. [19:39] haha fire|bird macavity thanks hopefully I never need to mention that temp to anyone. [19:39] lf4: Well, you know the response now if anyone ever asks "Hey, what temp did you cook this crap too, doesn't seem done." [19:40] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [19:40] Haha I will tell them 400C or 752F ;) It's good info to know [19:40] damn, ya know... this job is funny in that we have random stretches of afkness [19:40] lf4: indeed [19:41] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.4) joined ##slackware. [19:41] andarius: http://pastebin.com/m3d2e5bb3 [19:41] It feels so late.... like I have to go to work soon yet its still 6hrs away. [19:42] andarius: does that look "healthy" to you? [19:42] macavity: what was updated recently that affects wifi ? [19:42] andarius: i went from rc1update2 to rc2update$LATESTS [19:43] *latest even [19:43] TkTech (n=TkTech@94.76.253.149) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:43] umm, changelog checked for packages ? [19:43] macavity: the answer to that is because of channel hopping [19:43] TkTech (n=TkTech@94.76.253.149) joined ##slackware. [19:43] yes, it says that wicd was updated to handle hidden ESSIDs better [19:43] and the beaconing intervals of the AP [19:44] As car as I know, iwlist's scan does a passive scan, it does not probe so it only catches beacons it sees at any given interval [19:44] car/far [19:44] antiwire: then why does it post two ESSID lines in the first post? [19:44] because the beacons would have happened at the same time [19:45] since when does 802.11 a/b/g do channel hopping ? [19:45] Action: lf4 walks out of the room. [19:45] ? [19:45] to my knowledge it doesn ot [19:45] iwlist channel hops when run as root [19:45] it scans channels yes, not the same [19:45] andarius: then how do you explain iwlist's ability to find APs on different channels? [19:45] antiwire: i dont think that is righ, as if i hit Refresh really fast in widc i get this in dmesg: iwl3945 0000:03:00.0: Aborted scan still in progress after 100ms [19:45] it locks on a channel for decode, then moves on when done [19:46] channel hopping is a bit more involved. [19:46] andarius: ok so I have a term mixed up? I think it was clear about what I was getting at. [19:46] Action: macavity reads the manpage of iwlist then [19:47] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [19:47] figabo (n=figabo@189.186.33.45) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:47] Action: missyjane stomps into room like godzilla [19:47] antiwire: sorry, i have a history with secure comms gear so it does not mean the same to me ;) [19:47] Action: andarius shoots godzilla with a lazer [19:47] \o/ [19:47] macavity: This behavior has been what I have seen for as long as I can remember [19:47] macavity: regarding the output if iwlist scan [19:47] of [19:48] ok [19:48] Action: missyjane falls over [19:48] macavity: was it only wicd that was updated ? [19:48] but still.. why do i sometimes get two ESSID lines from one AP? [19:48] andarius: yes [19:49] slackytude3 (n=slacky@p54A725A9.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:49] wicd should not affect iwlist [19:49] extra/wicd/wicd-1.6.2-i486-2.txz: Rebuilt. Fixed a problem with hidden networks. Thanks to Robby Workman. [19:50] as noted, wicd should not affect the iw tools [19:50] no.. but the odd thing is that my AP did NOT show up as hidden before the update [19:50] .. and i could actually connect to it :P [19:50] macavity: the two ESSIDs, can you show us an example of that? [19:50] that is, in wicd, both [19:50] extra/wicd/wicd-1.6.2-i486-2.txz: Rebuilt. Fixed a problem with hidden networks. Thanks to Robby Workman. [19:50] my point is if the core wireless tools are having issues then something else is likely at fault [19:50] arr.. [19:50] http://pastebin.com/m3d2e5bb3 [19:50] ^^ antiwire [19:51] lines 9 and 14, i see [19:51] andarius: roger that [19:51] antiwire: yup.. and then less than 30 secs later it is gone.. [19:51] macavity: slackware-current or 64 ? [19:52] 32 [19:52] i should go 64 but i need a blank DVD :P [19:52] no, i need a 8GB thumb drive [19:53] It's difficult to tell what the cause of that is but guessing at it could be a client side reporting or driver issue or it could be an error frame that had an extra field [19:53] I don't know really [19:53] Does the AP in question support multiple SSIDs? [19:53] macavity: join #wicd and ask. I don't really know that code - should have been thanks to NaCl [19:53] rworkman: roger :-) [19:55] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.23.183) joined ##slackware. [19:57] evening rworkman + macavity [19:57] antiwire: i dont have a flying frigging idea.. it is a linksys w56g v8 or something [19:57] i got inspired today to install slackpkg [19:57] slackpkg-2.70.5-noarch-1.tgz [19:57] missyjane: come to -current land and enjoy :-) [19:57] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] ola [19:58] afk again :/ [19:58] boooo! [19:58] missyjane: as of 13.0 slackpkg is installed per default :-) [19:58] yep [19:58] as of, as if it is already out :| [19:58] lol :) im a tad bit afraid to go too far [19:58] wait, 13 is already out? [19:58] nope [19:59] macavity: slackpkg is in 12.2 too. [19:59] heya Necos [19:59] heya fire|bird [19:59] but it's in /extra, no? [19:59] antiwire: sorry, wrt54g v7 [19:59] Necos: no [19:59] Necos: It's in by default, you don't have to install it yourself. [20:00] antiwire: but have done nothing special in the configuration: dissallow configuration via wifi, enable uPNP, change from WPA to TKIP, set ESSID to Brondum, alter password on admin account [20:00] antiwire: nothing else.. the rest looked like stuff that required me to read the manual to play with ;-) [20:01] fire|bird: ah, i missed 12.2 alltogether :P [20:01] Necos: It's in ap/ [20:01] iirc anyway [20:01] macavity: :) [20:02] macavity: which card/driver is the client using? [20:02] antiwire: iwl3945 [20:02] evening everyone [20:02] antiwire: the only problem i have ever had with this card is its inability to do injection in monitor mode [20:02] evening nachox [20:02] hello Mr Nachox :-) [20:03] macavity, stallman is here in argentina :P [20:03] oh, hmmm [20:03] it's headshot time i think [20:03] err, party time [20:03] nachox: give him a big hug from me if you run into him, will you? [20:03] unfortunately his conference happens while i'm at work [20:04] damn.. well, since he speaks spanish fluently i wont benefit if it is uploaded to gnu.org :-/ [20:05] he is up to giving lectures in four languages now [20:05] stallman in argentina ??? what happened to them ? :) [20:05] brbrbr: Argentina and Brazil are really big when it comes to identifying with the idea of Software Freedom [20:06] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] brbrbr: perhaps because they have seen so much governmental incivility in recent years [20:06] only because they dislike paying for software :) [20:07] oh, that could easily make them align with the Open Source ideas instead [20:07] hm [20:08] do someone knows, how to prevent /etc/resolv.conf of overwriting? i tried to make it a-w, but it's still overwritten... [20:08] i remember i used something like chmod +i or something, but i cant find it again [20:08] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:08] they somply cant pay at required amounts [20:08] overwritten by what? [20:08] udevd_: KEEPRESOLV[n]=yes in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [20:09] nachox: pppd [20:09] or call dhcpcd -R iface [20:09] so commercial software simply not option for SA [20:09] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "Molon Labe" [20:09] it's actually DHCP_KEEPRESOLV[X]="yes" [20:09] what antiwire said :P [20:09] macavity: i remember i used something like chmod ... [20:10] nah, i dont think that will do [20:10] they have great needs in inexpensive, but relable and manageable SW and thats what FOSS fits BEST :P [20:10] udevd_, using the inmutable attribute of ext3 is a hack that should be avoided [20:10] udevd_: the rc.inet1.conf file has established methods for preventing dhcpcd from changing specific networking options on the system [20:11] it's not rc.inet1.conf what's the problem [20:11] it's pppd [20:11] udevd_: that is a hack [20:11] antiwire: i don't suppose pppd uses dhhcp ;) [20:11] macavity: hack, not hack, how to use it ;>? [20:12] no it doesn't [20:12] ah [20:13] wait.. doesnt dialup connections get their network info via dhcp?!? [20:13] :< it doesn't seem to work on ext4 [20:13] what does slackware use for dhcp? dhcpcd or dhclient? [20:14] ok, chattr [20:14] dhcpcd [20:14] however Slackware comes with both [20:14] why should this method be avoided? [20:14] the stock networking scripts use dhcpcd though [20:14] with immutable bit [20:15] \o/, finally fixed my pidgin window auto-minimizing on me, I disabled pidgin going into idle/away mode, that was the cause. [20:17] Zordrak_ (n=jaz@87-194-141-163.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:17] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:17] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.33.45) joined ##slackware. [20:17] this makes no sense [20:17] t4k3r0n_ (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.33.45) joined ##slackware. [20:17] my firefox is 3, doing slackpkg upgrade-all shows firefox in 2.0.0.20, why...? [20:17] t4k3r0n (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.33.45) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:18] t4k3r0n_ (n=t4k3r0n@189.186.33.45) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:18] did you edit the mirrors file correctly ? [20:18] missyjane: because firfox 3 has not made it to 12.2, and you got your package from somewhere else? [20:18] yes [20:18] hm... i did?... [20:18] figabo (n=figabo@189.186.33.45) joined ##slackware. [20:18] i forget then [20:19] i will admit i updated firefox manually.. but from where i forget >< [20:19] macavity: firefox 3 has, 3.5 isn't in 12.2. [20:19] i uncommented a 12.1 mirror [20:19] since im on 12.1 [20:19] ah, ok [20:19] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [20:20] how about 12.1 then? [20:20] but you manually installed firefox 3. [20:20] missyjane: 2.0.0.20 is the latest for 12.1 [20:20] udevd_, do you have usepeerdns in your ppp configuration? if you do, remove it [20:20] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [20:20] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] im just.. too afraid to upgrade to 12.2 packages with slackpkg on a 12.1 system [20:20] why would /var/log/packages contain the correct version if you manually upgraded without upgradepkg? [20:20] ya know? [20:20] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:21] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:21] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.39.185) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:21] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [20:21] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:21] wb macavity :P [20:22] thx.. bugging with wicd [20:22] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [20:23] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:24] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [20:25] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:26] so, what about 'em squirels? [20:27] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:27] Action: missyjane pets a squirrel [20:27] Action: fire|bird watches missyjane get rabies [20:28] >:( not funny [20:28] i alsways wanted to tast squirrel [20:28] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@71-213-50-96.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] antiwire: alright, arecord is working here. [20:28] can you imagine sitting in the garden roasint squirrel on a stick :P [20:29] <|alisonken1churc> isn't that called varmint on a stick? or varmint stew? or something like that? [20:29] /brain --mush [20:29] ill stab anyone who eats these poor creatures [20:29] I just got an emergency networking call [20:30] y0 agentc0re, I mean mushy|brain :D [20:30] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [20:30] stybla (n=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] stanking (n=stanking@no.one.saw.me.onthenet.as) joined ##slackware. [20:30] Action: fire|bird takes away missyjane's knife [20:31] Action: missyjane stabs figabo [20:31] Action: missyjane stabs fire|bird [20:31] lol sorry figabo [20:32] ... [20:32] You stabbed an innocent person, what is the matter with you. :P [20:32] fire|bird: is that the kind of stuff i was missing all day long? [20:32] ;) [20:32] agentc0re: nah, earlier was actually entertaining. :P No violence. [20:32] well crap. that sucks. [20:32] i hate it when i miss the good stuff. [20:32] then stab yourself [20:33] Anybody know how to change kde default directory to something else. It defaults to ~/Documents :/ [20:33] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:33] yes fire|bird [20:33] kcontrol [20:33] missyjane, no problem [20:33] figabo: Send her the medical bill. :) [20:33] then system administration then paths [20:33] jaja [20:33] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:34] missyjane: I'm on kde 4.3 so that isn't there, but I know where that is now. thanks. [20:34] oh [20:34] raelakoira (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:34] :( everyone has 4.3.... [20:34] raelakoira (i=1000@cpe-67-241-21-88.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:35] missyjane: no.. -current users have 4.2.4 :P [20:35] missyjane: i dont plan on going for 4.3 untill at least 4.3.2 [20:35] macavity: I'm current ++ then, I rebuilt 4.3 :) [20:35] lol [20:35] seriously though... you guys really think i cant just slackpkg upgrade-all after i uncomment a current server? [20:35] i have used KDE since 1.1.2, so i know to stay away from .0 and .1 releases :P [20:36] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) joined ##slackware. [20:36] macavity: 4.3.0 is really nice tbh. :) [20:36] missyjane: you are not planing on going from 12.1 to -current that way, right? [20:36] >.> i planned.... [20:36] macavity: although there's one kontact/kmail issue that I can't find a solution for, it's not a bug or anything, just something they didn't include, and that's a way to bind receiving accounts to sending accounts. [20:37] missyjane: no you didnt.. it was just a frigment of you imagination, and now that reality has set in, you naturally dropped the idea based on good judgment (and peer pressure) [20:37] i have the nvidia drivers but they have trouble with my LCD monitor. it's only capable of 1024x768 but when I 'startx' the monitor does not display anything but "Cannot Display This Mode" etc [20:37] missyjane: that wouldn't work, at all. [20:37] xD!!!! hahaha [20:37] alright so i can try to install current again, what do i do when it freezes at the "updating font" part again? [20:38] i can copy the vesa xorg.conf and use it that way but then when i log out (init level 4) i don't get the login manager [20:38] missyjane: You could, theoretically, go from 12.1 --> 12.2 --> current [20:38] i don't want to use the nvidia drivers from their website, i want to use only what comes with Linux (not going to do much intense graphics with it) [20:38] fire|bird, i did that actually, went from 12.1 to 12.2, then i did a clean install of 12.2 (the crashing problem i got in the latter were EXACTLY the same as the problem i got before) [20:39] SonLightInn, the nvidia driver from nvidia is awesome [20:39] missyjane, thanks but i'd rather just use what comes in the kernel because this computer is being set up as a public computer [20:39] missyjane: if that happens you get in here and we show you how to how to fix it [20:40] how to how to, <----wow wow :P [20:40] macavity: two "how to", stuck on repeat again? :P [20:40] fire|bird: cchheecckk yyoouurr ddoouupplleexx sswwiittcchh sseettiinnggss kkkktthhxxbbaaii!! [20:40] hahaha [20:41] check yours too. :D [20:41] LOL... fire|bird, good catch, macavity lol but.. i only really have one pc :x... [20:41] which is this one [20:42] well.. 13.0-rc2u5 is very different from the 12.x series :P [20:43] so we hope for the best, and if not, then you learn how to type " Slackware 1" in lilo [20:43] my modem sents NO CARREER message... ;< [20:43] It worked 15 mins ago [20:43] lol im not kidding when i say this [20:43] it ownt respond to keyboard [20:44] so nothing worked [20:44] then comment out the offending line in rc.M [20:44] nothing even screaming at the computer >< [20:44] missyjane: that is why i just showed you how to boot to runlevel 1 from lilo [20:44] oh [20:44] :o.... [20:44] missyjane: runlevel one does not run rc.M on startup, so you can basically fix anything underneath the sytem that way [20:44] missyjane: screaming does nothing but strain your vocal cords, DON'T do it. :P [20:45] i better print out your advice then [20:45] fire|bird, i once screamed at my computer and it started working :x [20:45] Action: macavity observes missyjane just dinged [20:45] lol [20:45] do someone know, why such error happens? [20:46] i've got huawei e156g [20:46] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@71-213-50-96.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:46] missyjane: was it the line that says "Updating X font indexes: /usr/bin/fc-cache -f &" that fucked up? [20:46] i didnt see anything about indexes [20:46] i did see it say font and that.. was it [20:47] macavity: From what I gather, it was the other one, font cachees or something. [20:47] caches [20:47] yup [20:47] missyjane: it is important whatever it was the X fonts or the console fonts [20:47] T.T [20:47] damnit [20:47] because if it was the console fonts, then it is as simple as making sure that rc.font is not run [20:47] ARGH, kde effects aren't working. [20:48] haha, whoops, that's right, I'm on my other kernel. :/ [20:48] i feel the need, to stab someone [20:48] missyjane: anyhow, in -current the X font cache update gets fired on line 72 in /etc/rc.d/rc.M [20:48] missyjane: so you just comment that out from runlevel 1 if things go bad [20:48] ok [20:48] i am gonna keep note sec [20:49] missyjane: if it is the console font that fucks up, then chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.font does the trick [20:49] then, when done, you can just do "init 3" or "init 4" from the prompt.. no need to reboot :P [20:49] macavity, how do you know all this? [20:49] i read the boot scripts [20:49] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:50] whaaat? i read php scripts and i still cant understnad how to fix bugs for php scripts [20:50] he thinks boot scripts are like porn :o [20:50] psh text = porn to me [20:50] literotica [20:50] start with init(8) and then all the scripts in /etc/rc.d/ [20:50] missyjane: experience is the key. :) that's how he knows. Read the scripts, they are well commented as to what does what. [20:50] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:50] missyjane: they are actually written with user-reading in mind [20:51] macavity: yeah, they are. They are well documented within themselves. :P [20:51] missyjane: what fire|bird said [20:52] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [20:52] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:52] missyjane: btw, it was " Linux 1" in lilo [20:52] D: not Slackware? you made me write >< [20:52] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:52] stybla (n=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:52] missyjane: any valid lilo entry name [20:53] missyjane: i just forgot that i always rename mine to Slackware and Failsafe [20:53] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [20:53] heh [20:53] actually [20:53] im gonna gpart my partition, that way i can have a practice partition [20:54] hvera (n=hamilton@200.251.188.130) joined ##slackware. [20:54] i sitll have the aug4 cd and i see there are tons of changes in 18, i think ill get the 4 installed, then move in to 18 with slackpkg [20:54] come slackware 13 i can just go from current to 13 right [20:55] ? [20:55] if you've been following -current you'll just magically BE on 13 [20:55] thats a good idea missyjane [20:55] hehe i will soon [20:55] cool [20:55] Action: missyjane gets greedy [20:55] you'll run the last update, then 2 days later it will get released/announced as 13 [20:55] Action: quasar hides his skittles. [20:55] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) left irc: "Leaving" [20:56] missyjane: yes [20:56] Action: missyjane looks suspiciously at quasar, "what is that thing i see there? i see colors, shiny!" [20:56] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] ty macavity this should work then [20:57] it's the rainbow books :D [20:57] missyjane: There were current updates today as well. :) [20:57] fire|bird, bah ill just get 18 instead, then md5 it [20:57] quasar: You has skittles? You know missyjane is attracted to shiny things, she runs around with a knife all the time. :P [20:58] and scissors [20:58] OHGODWHY? [20:58] Action: quasar barters his skittles for some lucky charms [20:58] YOU'LL NEVER GET ME LUCKY CHARMS! [20:58] missyjane: so you stab people and then style their hair? 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[21:00] missyjane: use cdrecord directly [21:00] and what fire|bird said :P [21:00] when i burn install media i always do it as root and set speed=1 [21:00] why as root? [21:00] thats TOO slow [21:01] missyjane: the slower it is, the better chance you have at getting a good burn, no issues. [21:01] missyjane: on DVD that is 1.5MB/s [21:01] to be honest, it cant be THAT sensitive, come on [21:01] actually, it can. [21:02] no, but the slower you burn, the more time the optical drive has to get it right on the track [21:02] and it *does* show when you install... it is *much* faster to install from a disc that was properly mastered [21:02] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427485.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [21:02] hmmm...... [21:02] missyjane: only takes about 45min for a full DVD [21:02] nm, miscalc [21:03] er, no, that's right [21:03] yup.. and since the sources are not included on the isos i pointed you to, it is only 1.6 or 1.7GB [21:03] that is 1700/1.5 secs [21:03] about 20min [21:03] yup [21:04] just time enough to make a fresh pot of coffee and a sandwich [21:04] bah cdrecord -speed 1 linux.iso /dev/cdrom [21:04] macavity: when you rsync do you parse the changelog and just upgrade whatever has changed, or the whole shabang? [21:05] missyjane: no, speed=1 [21:05] missyjane: not -speed 1 [21:05] Action: quasar 's thinking about doing something like that [21:05] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [21:05] missyjane: cdrecord is not very consistant with its options [21:05] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-9-226.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [21:05] quasar: I use rsync and the use slackpkg to do the upgrading [21:05] macavity, understand [21:06] ah, haven't used slackpkg [21:06] missyjane: cdrecord speed=1 fs=32m linux.iso /dev/cdrom [21:06] Yes!!! My modem finally decided to work propertly :) [21:06] quasar: it is real easy [21:07] or is that dev=/dev/cdrom [21:07] I write to you from my new slackware current :) [21:07] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] hi alkos333 [21:07] maybe.. missyjane needs the practice, so we wont chew the food for her ;-) [21:08] cdrecord speed=1 fs=32m -v food stuuff [21:08] cdrecord? who uses it? dd is much better ;d [21:09] udevd_: Hey, what's up? [21:09] Action: macavity has yet to see someone dd *to* an optical media [21:09] lol [21:09] macavity: normal practice [21:09] beatzz (i=beatzz@cpe-72-183-220-239.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:09] macavity: go ahead, give it a try :D [21:09] y0 beatzz [21:09] Action: quasar wonders... if a linux machine is 2ft away from a windows machine (which is more comfortable to work with) .. is it lazy to ssh into the linux machine from the windows machine? [21:09] fire|bird: i am out of blank media [21:09] whats slackin hommies? [21:10] I don't even use the blank media anymore .. [21:10] Action: fire|bird hands macavity a blank media to test on. :D [21:10] fire|bird: but i do seem to remember that last time i tried to write to /dev/sr0 i was told that it was read only :P [21:10] hey alkos333 [21:10] macavity: haha [21:10] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:10] so all.... [21:10] fire|bird: or do i do it to /dev/sg0 then? [21:11] my friend have someday copy win95 image to an usb flash drive... ant it worked good until realized, that it doesn't have usb drivers ;P [21:11] im very close to decideing to leave the family and live the life of a 23 year old batchlor [21:11] macavity: Hmm, not sure, mine is /dev/sr0 :P [21:11] which...technicaly i am.. [21:11] also a lil drunk [21:11] fire|bird: and if you have a blank unfixed media in the driver you can just dd of=/dev/sr0 to it? [21:12] macavity: Not sure, never tried that, I've used dd if=/dev/sr0, but not of= :P [21:12] is there really a way to prevent people from su root on this machine? because i can't find it. i tried the instructions on linuxquestions that i found but even though my user was in wheel group, it prevented everyone from using su [21:12] i tried also chrgp wheel chmod o-x chmod g+s and no go [21:12] macavity: I can try though, I have tons of blank media [21:12] ivandi (n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:12] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:12] fire|bird: please do.. i would like to see if my FUD detector went off for no reason [21:12] ivandi (n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware. [21:13] what application can i use to join images in to video? [21:13] acidchild: avimerge [21:13] ivandi (n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:13] acidchild: oh wait.. sorry [21:13] acidchild: is it .jpeg? [21:13] acidchild: Well, just basics, cat files_here > file.mpg [21:13] yep [21:13] jpegs. [21:13] acidchild: cat *.jpeg > movie.mpeg [21:13] no shit [21:14] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Client Quit [21:14] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [21:14] that didn't work :-P [21:14] how you alter the frame rate and shit is another case.. i dont know that, but if you happen to have 30fps images, then things should work [21:15] they are all the exact same size, right? [21:15] yah [21:15] same colorspace and same compression [21:15] err no they are diffrent sizes. [21:15] mmm.. yah same colourspace etc, unless its dynamic. [21:15] pixelwise or space wise? [21:15] so... when it is only one file... file.jpg == file.mpg ;>? [21:16] nevermind i found the way to do it [21:16] macavity: bah, Read-only filesystem :P [21:16] udevd_: technicaly a jpeg is just 1/30th of a seccond of mpeg movie, yes [21:16] fire|bird: exactly... dd is NOT a burner [21:16] nope [21:16] :P [21:16] fire|bird: as if it was.. we would not have cdrecord [21:16] macavity: it is ;> [21:17] beatzz (i=beatzz@cpe-72-183-220-239.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Java user signed off" [21:17] will gimp or any other program do it? [21:17] udevd_: you need to explain yourself as to exactly how you do that [21:17] macavity: indeed [21:17] acidchild: iirc, gimp can do that, but it puts it into an animated .gif file [21:17] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: "leaving" [21:17] thats cool [21:18] ugh brb [21:18] acidchild: webmail working? [21:18] acidchild: convert from ImageMagick can do it [21:18] acidchild: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gaming-games-multimedia-entertainment/57826-make-movie-jpeg-images-how.html [21:18] remember what the script/function is called. [21:18] Dominian: no. [21:18] i installed one [21:18] eh [21:18] what's it doing? [21:18] acidchild: No, I don't remember what it is called, I believe you need the plugin pack or whatever it is. [21:19] acidchild: Think you can create me a test account on your email server? [21:19] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [21:19] acidchild: btw, i found that by googling "linux make movie from pictures" <- top hit :P [21:19] Dominian: you dont have one? [21:19] acidchild: I don't think so [21:19] macavity: excellent, i was searching 'joining images mpg' [21:19] Dominian: on spy? [21:20] acidchild: oh on spy I do.. however, I don't have an email account. [21:20] the email server doesn't look to local user accounts. [21:20] Action: nachox bows to acidchild and Dominian [21:20] lol.. "Intel's roadmap includes 4nm fab in 2022" :P [21:20] sup nachox [21:20] hey nacho! :) [21:20] lets see about that [21:20] stybla_ (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] Dominian: i just setup squiggle mail [21:20] good night :) [21:20] and set things to localhost [21:20] Nick change: udevd_ -> udevd^ [21:20] acidchild: er.. ok [21:21] gf was going bonkers [21:21] i had to do sommat [21:21] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:21] Nick change: udevd^ -> udevd [21:21] Well why didn't it work is what I wanna know... [21:22] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [21:22] can you get on spy? [21:22] I found the problem [21:22] or i need to make u an account, i didn't delete yours. [21:22] acidchild: the webmail link is not on spy [21:23] yah it is [21:23] /webmail/ [21:23] its in /usr/pkg/share/http*/* [21:23] acidchild: I just fixed it [21:23] acidchild: er.. yeah that doesn' twork [21:23] Dominian, you're using squirrelmail for webmail? [21:23] nachox: yes [21:23] Dominian: sure does. :P [21:24] acidchild: maybe not, but you didn't have those ports open before.. remember.. didn't want webmail on spy [21:24] yah [21:24] acidchild: I just repaired thw ebmail interface for 7a69.co.uk that's hosted on slackadelic.com [21:24] link? [21:24] nachox: If I could find something else that was better.. I'd use it [21:24] acidchild: unless you changed the webmail.7a69.co.uk A record already.. it should still be there [21:25] ah maybe that works.. i gave victoria the slackadelic address [21:25] doh [21:25] you dork [21:25] doh indeed [21:25] I told you to use webmail.7a69.co.uk [21:25] thanks dewd. [21:25] :) [21:25] Should be good now [21:25] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [21:26] yah thanks man :-) [21:26] np [21:26] nachox: I'd like to find something that can do different settings per vhost.. easily.. not plugin after plugin [21:26] ivandi (n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware. [21:27] nachox: i dislike webmail, but what ya gotta do eh? [21:27] Dominian, http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/archives/chromium.r23615.tgz [21:27] ivandi (n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:27] oh god [21:27] what is that [21:27] ivandi (n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware. [21:27] apart from a big ass file. [21:27] crap [21:27] wrong link [21:27] was going to say [21:27] http://www.sun.com/software/convergence/gallery/index.xml?t=1&p=1 [21:27] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:28] ivandi (n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:28] oh here we go with the Sun crap again.. [21:28] the other are chrome's sources [21:28] nachox: Yeah that looks nice [21:28] is it FOSS? [21:28] oh wait [21:28] its java [21:28] ivandi (n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware. [21:30] nheco (n=nheco@201.10.44.57) left irc: "Saindo" [21:30] nachox: You've tried chromium on slack? [21:30] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [21:31] ivandi (n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:32] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [21:32] chrome needs AdBlock naow! [21:32] Dominian, no, it's not opensource, i know of one other decent webmail, zimbra [21:32] zimbra is another suite [21:33] thre'sa nice skin for squirrelmail that makes it all nice and ajaxy [21:33] there's also @mail [21:33] atmail [21:33] and it's now java, it's ajax [21:33] *not [21:33] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:33] blah blah blah [21:33] hehe [21:33] :P [21:33] and roundcube [21:33] if they could ever get their head out of their ass [21:33] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [21:33] anyway, i recommended sun's because it's the most flexible i've seen [21:34] kiss and make up [21:34] but zimbra is cute too [21:34] and much much easier to setup [21:34] Anyone know of a way to blink a hard drive led (for identification)? I could dd run "if=/dev/sdd", but would like to know if there is a better way. [21:34] s/dd run "if=/run "dd if=/ [21:34] nachox: yeah but zimbra is a suite.. I have a mail server already :P [21:35] Dominian, yeah, i know... time to replace it? :P [21:35] no [21:35] my stuff works :P [21:36] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@71-213-50-96.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [21:36] dive: ping [21:36] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-24-33.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:37] pi31415: perhaps smartctl ? [21:37] pi31415: on most motherboards and controllers i have seen, it is a hardware function that the OS cannot reach [21:38] i searched the smartctl manual for blink, flash, light, and led [21:38] pi31415: with PMBus it should probably become some ACPI controlable event, but that kind of hardware is still on the drawing board [21:38] stybla_ (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:39] thanks for trying, I will rely on my hardware setup notes =) [21:39] damn... i really need a new laptop disk [21:39] 40gb is not enough [21:40] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [21:40] i have a spare 80GB PATA.. but i guess it would cost more to ship it to you than getting a new one [21:40] i need sata disks [21:40] they are cheap [21:41] i just dont want to spend money on this laptop [21:41] duthac (n=chatzill@2.219.68.216.DED-DSL.fuse.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:46] Hello, I have a fresh install of slackware 12.2 and everytime I start X up with KDE, or even if I start X with wmaker but then start up ksirc (I geuss an app dependent on KDE) I get a kconf_update process that sky rockets to 100% [21:46] in fact, if window manager is KDE, it will stop at the start up screen and I have to goto another console to mnually kill kconf_update [21:46] kinda annoying cause I still havent set my install to boot up in runlevel 4 yet cause of this annoying problem [21:47] seems to be a common issue with kde 4.x users with 3.x libs still [21:47] but in my case I only have 3.5 [21:48] ivandi (n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:49] ivandi (n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware. 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[22:02] macro: you say "kde4 users with 3.x libs still".. does that mean you installed KDE4 on your 12.2 box? [22:02] Whats the command that will generate modelines for xorg.conf? [22:04] lf4: xvidtune ? [22:05] Yeah thats it, thanks hackedhead :) [22:10] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [22:11] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:12] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:12] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-168-238-39.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:13] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [22:14] macavity: no I just have kde 3.5 that came with 12.2. I didnt install anything else, I am assuming by what I said that the problem is only with 3.x kde libs. \ [22:17] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [22:18] mrselfpwn (i=nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-eewomtybhjaczdym) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:19] agentc0re, pong [22:21] good night, all [22:21] dive: got a second to try voice? [22:21] nite hitest. [22:21] ok [22:21] night hitest [22:21] nite agentc0re, fire|bird [22:22] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:25] stanking (n=stanking@no.one.saw.me.onthenet.as) left ##slackware. [22:27] hba (n=hba@189.188.156.116) joined ##slackware. [22:27] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] stupid question here, how man I reformat a jump drive to vfat with slackware-64-current? [22:29] afaik, you can't.. [22:29] mkfs.vat is no longer included and I want that function for this single task since the xp laptop doesn't read my ntfs partition [22:29] ok then, what partition type should a valid ntfs partition be? [22:29] mfillpot: What I do.. because of that issue, is run a Windows XP VM.. "Just in case" [22:29] mkdos.fs? [22:30] it's not worth that much trouble, all I need is copy the driver to the latop for it's network card [22:30] dive: the one thing i did do different was compile some extra's that farsight2 wants. I have slackbuilds for them if you wanna give it a try. libsoup, GSSDP, gUPnP and gUPnP-igd. [22:30] what fs is mkfs.dos? [22:30] agentc0re, got links? [22:31] you can access your data on windows? dual boot? [22:31] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:31] can/want [22:31] dive: for my builds or the programs in general? [22:31] mfillpot: I just checked, and it's mkdosfs [22:32] builds [22:32] no dual boot, I am pure slackware, I am having my problem because I converted my USb to be a netboot disk for current [22:32] dive: give me a few and i will. heres the source site of the last 3. libsoup is on SBo. http://www.gupnp.org/ [22:33] ah you want a external hdd compatible with windows ? [22:33] yeah [22:33] agentc0re, if you have standard slackbuild + info, readme etc I can host them at mine until SBo is accepting again [22:33] why not ntfs? [22:33] agentc0re, if you like [22:34] I tried ntfs with a partition type of 7 (HPFS/NTFS) and windows said the disk is corrupt [22:34] corrupt or asked for check? [22:35] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:35] powtrix: e:\ is not accessible, the file or directory is corrupt or unreadable [22:36] well last month ago i make a ntfs fs (1.5TiB) for a friend, he said it worked fine. maybe you can re-make the fs [22:36] but it is read perfectly in slackware [22:36] I wil ltry to remake it [22:37] mfillpot: did you read the end of README_USB.TXT that I'm assuming you read before you created the bootable stick? [22:37] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) joined ##slackware. [22:37] duh, I should just format it in windows...lol [22:39] I am so used to running slack that I didin't even think of using winblows for any real task [22:40] re [22:40] I used the tools in the laptop to get it formatted in a win recognized format [22:41] wow MJackson death rules homicide [22:42] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:42] Quiznos: URL? [22:43] omg; google, [acn]bs, cnn, fox, msnbc, iran! [22:43] pick one ;) [22:43] macavity: I heard that on the news today [22:43] the whole world is nuts for him [22:44] lol [22:44] Quiznos: really? the WHOLE world? [22:44] yea [22:45] i mean that group of the whole population that wanted to be him or married to him or have his children, w.e. [22:45] i prefer younger MJ myself. [22:45] Publicity stunt to forward socialized healthcare? better protection for doctors accidents? [22:45] I think so. lol [22:45] you know, the [skinny|fat} elvis; well i prefer younger mj [22:46] 70s and earlier. [22:46] disco MJ was slick... and I don't even like disco. [22:46] nods [22:46] when he somewhat resembled a human? [22:47] damn TNZ is pre-empted [22:47] dive: http://learnix.net/2009/08/extra-deps-to-go-along-with-farsight2/ [22:47] TMZ [22:47] MJ is dead? [22:47] yes [22:47] dive: Sure, i don't mind if you host them either. [22:47] omg [22:47] powtrix: uh yeah, where have you been? :P [22:47] So my sister is asking for help reinstall her computer's Windows XP recovery and I'm purposefully making it complicated and pushing a linux distro instead. lol [22:47] he went to that Big chimpanzee park in the sky [22:47] lol [22:47] powtrix: according to Quiznos the WHOLE world is nuts, nobody told you? :P [22:47] powtrix: get out of your moms basement... NAOW! ;-) [22:47] velusip DONT LIE TO SISTER [22:47] Quiznos: I thought he went back to the plastic factory? [22:47] It's hard to make a Toshiba recovery install complicated. [22:47] she can still beat your ass :) [22:47] Haha, she knows I'm doing it. [22:48] pound on you [22:48] well [22:48] two bits on sister. [22:48] agentc0re: Nah, he's working at a donut shop in Dayton, OH. :P just like Elvis. [22:48] fire|bird: Who is Elvis? [22:48] ;) [22:48] agentc0re what't he name of that fiction book about dolls in Calif. [22:49] elvis has swiveling hips [22:49] lol [22:49] had [22:49] agentc0re: The guy with blue suede shoes that was all shook up. :P [22:49] in prison [22:49] jailhouse rock [22:49] "I found the manual... no wait this is for the TV." [22:49] LOL [22:49] he was still better when older than MJ IMO [22:49] heh [22:49] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:49] haha [22:50] volkerdi (i=3321@connie.slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [22:50] uh oh.. [22:50] i recall being stuck in motel back in the early 80s during a winter storm, upstate NY; the only thing on tv was a Elvis christamas special he did. [22:50] yikes [22:50] he was very good. (younger elvis) [22:50] skinny too [22:51] i was there waiting for uni to open up so i could move in [22:51] what a sad story (re: Michael Jackson) [22:51] nods [22:51] it's always sad when one man or woman dies. [22:51] #elinks has been dead silent to almost 11 hours now [22:52] and in other nes: [22:52] Quiznos: add 100 to the mix and no one cares after a day. [22:52] news [22:52] die in bed w/ sores, depression, a ruined reputation, and a drug addiction [22:52] isnt that sad too agentc0re? [22:52] Quiznos: yup. [22:52] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-196-227.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [22:52] the man accused of killing his gf-model was found dead by hanging in a motel [22:53] laptop on the bed; i'm sure there was a msg for the family [22:53] Was probably Canadian. [22:53] he was [22:53] eh? [22:53] canabian user? [22:53] the man was canadian [22:54] and he was found in a Canadian Motel [22:54] yea [22:54] Canadians are worse than the French [22:54] Hehe, I only said that because a co-worker was reading the story aloud at work today. [22:54] only Qubecois are related to the french [22:54] ok [22:55] dive: Oh i also got the latest gst-plugins-bad/good. i know that there is something in BAD (valve) that i think farsight2 relies on. I might rebuild with those as well. [22:55] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [22:55] superGear (n=supergea@65.113.15.181) left irc: [22:55] ok [22:56] is there a sbo or slackbuild for lcc compiler? [22:56] google dont know [22:56] false positives from it [22:57] lcc srcpkg hasnt been autotooled. [22:57] (thank god) [22:57] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [22:57] reGear [22:57] Quiznos: what are you going to build w/ lcc? [22:57] anything; it's an alt c compiler [22:57] I tried playing w/ it years ago but was disappointed how few programs it could build compared to gcc. [22:58] ok [22:58] noted [22:58] seems like i read something about it being a literate program, which sounds cool [22:58] literate? duno bout that but one porpose for being is that it is highly portable. [22:59] It compiles Shakespeare [22:59] sposed to be easily portable [22:59] lol [22:59] i thought it was made for educational purposes [22:59] wait is that PatV? [22:59] tije (n=tije@189.175.110.14) joined ##slackware. [22:59] PAT!!! [22:59] "Here is a good clean implementation of a compiler for study" [22:59] Quiznos: ola [22:59] greetings volkerdi, how are you? [22:59] volkerdi how are you? (i'm always asking rworkman how you are) [23:00] he refused to say :) [23:00] we've email chatted [23:00] Quiznos: I'll have to ask rworkman how I am. [23:00] he wontsay [23:00] how's the family? [23:00] waity dont say [23:00] (the approved answer is "fine") [23:00] OK. The little one's asleep. [23:00] good [23:01] so you gonna tell us when 13 will be released? [23:01] any minute now [23:01] m_ (n=m@c-67-182-208-26.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] pff; how non-committal of you :) [23:01] really? [23:01] Do I win something? [23:01] RSN is not a aproved answer :) [23:01] lol [23:01] is the documentation done? [23:01] The documentation is never done. :-/ [23:01] Action: Quiznos is giddy [23:01] Action: Quiznos oozes [23:02] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "peace" [23:02] Anyway, should be pretty soon. This release has seemed to drag on forever. [23:02] yarvin (n=yarvin@105-200-58-66.gci.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:02] volkerdi i wanna complain bout stuff but i'm currently sporting a stoopit grin; so, they'll have to wait. :>~ [23:02] xsamurai (n=munki@pool-71-106-233-110.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving." [23:03] I've been pretty happy with the changes, and I have even got used to KDE4 [23:03] Mostly the struggles with X and the Intel drivers have worn us all down... but it seems to be working pretty well now. [23:03] Quiznos: complain away [23:03] i'm tryin :) [23:03] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-199-139.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:03] seems like ath5k changed in last kernel update. Possibly power maanagement works with more eagerness. [23:03] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [23:03] dive: Not the testing kernel, right? [23:03] volkerdi, really wish you were adding libtool 2.x to 13 :P [23:03] volkerdi ok here's one: why is Slackware prepd to be (open to network) instead of (closed to network) [23:03] the latest in rc2 [23:04] but rworkman told me maybe for 13.1 but no promises [23:04] volkerdi: greetings, and is alienBOB alright? Haven't seen him for a few days now. [23:04] 'lo Pat [23:04] after resume from hibernation I have to ping another machine to get networking to respond. [23:04] Quiznos: I believe you can tag all the rc.services off during the install. [23:04] volkerdi btw i can say that i've been a continuous Slacker since 1995. [23:05] volkerdi yea, that doesnt cut it, IMHO [23:05] Quiznos: why not? [23:05] well I have to get ready for work later [23:05] adios! [23:06] volkerdi well, last century someone pierced either (sendmail|bind) and wiped out my system, back during the 90s [23:06] gn agentc0re [23:06] see ya agentc0re, take care. [23:06] Quiznos: oh i am not leaving. [23:06] obviously, i was less knowledgable then and both those tools are subpar but still... [23:06] o ok [23:07] juice gn [23:07] saying by to juice... just didn't add JUICE to the ADIOS! :P [23:07] juice it up [23:07] haha [23:07] see ya juice, take care. :P [23:07] speaking of juice.. where's my beer? :P [23:07] agentc0re, I bookmarked your page and grabbed the gzips. Will have a look later and add them to mine with links etc. [23:07] Action: fire|bird hands agentc0re a cold one. :) [23:07] Ah, beer. I remember beer. [23:07] stybla (n=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] dive: k. [23:08] Haven't had much of that lately... gotta keep focus. [23:08] volkerdi: Nothing beats liquid bread. [23:08] agentc0re, not gona build them right now. Getting really fed up with pidgin ;-) [23:08] Are we ever going to be able to get an official slackware ale? I bet it would be a good seller [23:08] volkerdi: esp when you make it yourself. :D [23:08] dive: dude.. i feel ya there. [23:08] Just opened up a cold Mountain Dew Throwback. [23:08] dive: almost enough to use irssi :P [23:08] Nick change: brbrbr -> brbrbr|rest [23:08] volkerdi i once read from some DoD report or summary about network security that it is better to close a system fully then let local admin open as required. I prefer that and give the number of unprepared users crossing over to Linux, that might be a better situ for them [23:08] volkerdi, get wasted during the next slackware release party :) [23:09] agentc0re, I do I do. But too many people I know use msn. Same old story... [23:09] Quiznos: It's probably even better than that to unplug the cat5. [23:09] volkerdi a Simple thing to do would be `echo ALL: all >>/etc/host.deny' [23:10] volkerdi cant have everything; but the echo is a good idea and one of the first things i do [23:10] Quiznos: 100s of mails about that would be a delight [23:10] volkerdi isnt one enough? :) [23:10] Quiznos: and then the n00bs would flood this channel with "my internet doesn't work!!!" [23:10] danc3 host.deny doesnt affect outbound. only inbound connections [23:11] As much as some people mistake me for such, I am not the Keeper of the Toilet Paper [23:11] err, yeah [23:11] [23:11] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:11] danc3 that's ok; i've been doing this for a long time [23:12] volkerdi 2nd: why not separate rc.S's fscking into rc.fs? [23:12] Quiznos: heh. so have I, but been drinking beer a while, too... ;) [23:12] ok ) enjoy. [23:12] danc3: \0/ [23:13] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "i am off to the moon" [23:13] agentc0re: I'm not sure what that is... a beerglass, or a bunghole? [23:13] danc3, ascii goatse [23:13] Quiznos: While splitting out rc.fsck (better name imho) would be perfectly fine, "why not" has never been a good reason to make a change. Not to me, anyway. It leads to things being a needless moving target. [23:13] danc3: cheering.. arms are up. we're drinking. [23:13] Action: danc3 doesn't speak emoticon-ish all that well [23:14] doh! not the goatse! [23:14] danc3: me either.. i learned that one from here. [23:14] ok cool [23:14] danc3: But i find it funny that you know goatse over that. :P [23:14] LOL [23:15] I thought the goatse emoticon was this one: EO3 [23:15] volkerdi got another requrest for splitting to rc.fsck? [23:15] Action: danc3 sent a few blind links of the goat to some special "friends" back then [23:15] lol [23:15]  [23:15] volkerdi: hehe [23:15] Action: danc3 pukes a little [23:15] danc3: you know you like it. :P [23:16] lovely [23:16] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@173-17-136-226.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [23:17] 03:11 < volkerdi> As much as some people mistake me for such, I am not the Keeper of the Toilet Paper [23:17] noobfarm! [23:17] lol [23:17] haha [23:17] lol [23:17] oh oh [23:17] epic pwnage! [23:17] yea i thawt that was a contrived sample response :) [23:17] rworkman: are you following in #wicd? [23:17] everyone is keeper of HolyPaper!!! [23:18] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:18] macavity: kinda; just replied [23:18] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] :-) [23:19] Not sure I can talk TeePeeKeePee into another rebuild though. ;-) [23:19] rworkman btw, V said that `little one is asleep' update your "how's family" response accordingly? :) [23:19] Depends ;-) [23:20] Action: Quiznos scrolls through mysterious and ever-growing pat-complaint file... [23:20] Quiznos: it's still "ask him" :) [23:20] no, thats too old... [23:20] rworkman pff [23:20] i told you to lie!!! :) [23:20] lol [23:20] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-74.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:21] volkerdi: well, according to adam (wicd dev), that hidden network patch wasn't sufficient on its own, so we'll see. [23:21] latest update to wicd outright broke it here [23:21] volkerdi 3rd; re sendmail and bind; given they both have been highly insecure for 2 decades now, when are they going to be replaced with better-secured packages? [23:21] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.23.183) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:21] HUH? [23:22] Action: volkerdi yawns [23:22] rworkman: scroll far up :P [23:22] rworkman: that is why i have been working with adam7 all night [23:22] sendmail's history is just that - history. [23:23] but there are people who (given that history) vehemently refuse to use those pkgs. [23:23] bind's reputation is far from soiled, even if it's had a couple of issues lately. I mean, what would you recommend? djcrazyb's stuff? [23:23] haha [23:24] i'm not suggesting djbdns nor qmail; (I comprehend that the Prof. and his sw are highly controversial but dont know why really) i'm just saying that sendmail and bind are unworthy to be slackware packages. [23:24] Quiznos: could be the lack of a license [23:24] not had any issues with sendmail since default is relaying off [23:24] Quiznos: without a valid replacement, then it's just bloviating, to be brutally honest here. [23:24] wow.. speaking of licenses, cups is missing the licence file from /usr/doc/ [23:25] (but I would insist on some respect for the professor; he is a fine coder and has stood against the govt for their interference and our rights) [23:25] sendmail working just fine here [23:25] i just forgot to report that [23:25] hba (n=hba@189.188.156.116) left irc: "leaving" [23:25] rworkman there are other fine packages that can replace sendmail and bind [23:25] Oooo... a fine packages sounds so much better than an unworthy one. I'm sold. [23:26] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.70.32) left irc: "Leaving" [23:26] I personally would like to see postfix, but as a postfix user, I can also appreciate that anyone capable of using it is perfectly capable of installing it on their own. [23:26] Things are getting a bit sassy in here. [23:26] It's also not trivial to upgrade using a package either. [23:26] lol [23:27] mmmmmmmm sassy [23:27] rworkman on taht subject i agree; they are quite complicated, and I presonally think that's a fine reason to include as strikes against those pkgs [23:27] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [23:28] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "leaving" [23:28] phillipsm (n=matt@173-23-58-33.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [23:29] Nick change: LifeForce4 -> LF4 [23:29] rworkman i dont bloviate :) (are you a fan of Bill's?) [23:29] hiptobecubic: Yo, i made some slackbuilds to accompany the farsight2 package. if you are interested in rebuilding i put them on my site. http://learnix.net/2009/08/extra-deps-to-go-along-with-farsight2/ [23:29] Action: danc3 goes to look up "bloviate" [23:30] danc3, i did too :) [23:30] heh [23:30] agentc0re, s/vane/vain :) [23:30] Urchlay: why aren't you in #slackbuilds? :) [23:30] hiptobecubic: shit! [23:30] hehe [23:30] hiptobecubic: lol [23:30] lool [23:30] "To discourse at length in a pompous or boastful manner" [23:30] ok [23:31] BLOW-viate [23:31] yea, i'm not pomous :) [23:31] no pride here. [23:31] not a fan of it. [23:31] agentc0re, so wait.. these are 3 new SlackBuilds you have? [23:31] "It ain't braggin' if you can do it" [23:32] hiptobecubic: yes, you will need the libsoup from SBo too. [23:32] agentc0re, gssdp.tar.gz, gupnp.tar.gz, and gupnp-igd.tar.gz [23:32] ok i see [23:32] What is it supposed to do, enable upnp in farsight? [23:32] rworkman what about a slackbuild for lcc alternative c compiler [23:32] hiptobecubic: yup. [23:33] Quiznos, why? [23:33] Quiznos: I've looked into pcc (popular in hte openbsd world), but honestly, I don't see a need for an alternate compiler in Slackware. [23:33] bc it's a good tool [23:33] Quiznos, what about it? If you want one make one and submit to SBo? [23:33] Quiznos: you'd know [23:33] it's not about need. [23:33] pi31415 (n=ben@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:33] volkerdi id know what? [23:33] lol [23:34] You know what we do need? A way for lusers like myself to have x86 and x86_64 working together on the network. Building a cross-compiler has been kicking me in the balls for two days now. [23:34] well boys, I gotta go get some bloviatin' from the missus... ;) TTYL [23:34] gn [23:34] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:35] volkerdi, what 'nix were you used to before starting slackware? [23:35] haha [23:35] lol darkwurm [23:35] tab fail [23:35] lmoa [23:35] s/lmoa/lmao [23:35] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:36] pi31415: I used several, but I wasn't really used to any particular version. [23:36] hiptobecubic: look at how CFLS does it [23:36] yeah i have been [23:37] and crosstool-ng [23:37] I did use some SunOS then, also Ultrix, and whatever AT&T flavor ran on the 3b2. [23:37] and the opensuse wiki on cross-compiling + icecream [23:37] but yes, cross-compilers from and to any official slackware version would be severly nice.. however i think that it could be problemeatic to quality check them, since most devs only have a subset of the hardware [23:37] Nick change: brbrbr|rest -> brbrbr [23:37] I used SunOS and Ultrix before I got into Linux [23:37] s/version/port/ [23:37] Did not use Ultrix for long before they replaced it w/ OSF/1 [23:38] haha [23:38] macavity, super radically nice. As far as testing goes, I think if you dump it in /extra with a disclaimer that these are new, it would ok. [23:39] it would be*. Also, you can access a lot of enviroments with qemu to test, can't you? [23:39] year.. you would expect that people who know how to use a cross compiler also know how to read the README :P [23:40] oh yes, qemu might come in handy for testing armed slack [23:40] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.71.131) joined ##slackware. [23:40] But i think my case is going to become pretty common, pretty soon. Where only 1 or two of the computers in the house can do x86_64 and suddenly the build farm is borked. [23:41] we have two and a half desktops, and three laptops sitting around, and only this one is x86_64 [23:41] or in the case where Daddy has a big shiny x86_64 and want to make packges for the wifes lil laptop :P [23:42] also true [23:42] currently this is a slackware-only house :P [23:43] Action: pi31415 laughs [23:43] "You're not slacking hard enough!" [23:44] Well hey... it's always fun, but I better cease my procrastination. [23:44] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:45] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:45] volkerdi: procrastination in what? We know now it's nothing to do with TP, :P [23:45] haha [23:45] haha [23:45] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:46] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [23:46] agentc0re: You know, I'm no longer sure. I better think about it for a while. ;-) [23:47] mrselfpwn (n=nemesysa@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [23:47] rworkman: speaking of postfix, I just completed a postfix + courier + mysql integration [23:48] volkerdi: I think that's a grand idea! [23:48] Neo_The_User (n=root@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:48] TP? [23:48] stybla (n=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:48] Taipei [23:48] macavity: Toilet Paper. [23:48] when a new release comes out, does it become frozen and only security fixes go in it? [23:48] ah [23:49] Don't miss or you Bangkok. [23:49] macavity: IE: macavity you wanna go TP volkerdi's house tonight? ;) [23:49] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: [23:49] rworkman: hahaha [23:49] macavity: at least that's what we called it here. [23:49] Neo_The_User, it gets nailed to the wall with nine inch nails. So, yes. [23:49] awesome [23:49] NIN \o/ [23:49] Getting Closer. [23:49] Neo_The_User, unless for some serious err [23:49] Just Like You Imagined. [23:50] It's the Purest Feling. [23:50] phoenix^: NIN ftw! totally! Whats best is how they were in Quake1 [23:50] er, Feeling. [23:50] dive: just how i like it. i do all updates myself :) [23:50] Action: Neo_The_User loves compiling by hand with no automated scripts [23:50] Wow, I must have a Head Like A Hole. [23:50] agentc0re, yeah still one of the best shootemups ;-) [23:50] lol [23:50] dive: Ya, i love those old games. [23:50] black as your soul [23:51] hehehe [23:51] dive: quake1 is by far one of the few clasics [23:51] i love this channel [23:51] Neo_The_User: after about 10 years it gets SO boring :P [23:51] full of support, jokes, and great attitude [23:51] lies [23:51] Those too. [23:51] not with me around..its never boring [23:51] straterra i used to take that [23:51] we have to keep reinventing ourselves on noobfarm [23:51] Neo_The_User: that is why volkerdi gets to do most of my packages.. then i can focus on the stuff that i have a special interest in [23:51] No..you took strattera :) [23:52] right [23:52] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] i used to be on it too [23:52] when do I get to play? :( [23:52] for my ADHD. worked well. but it took away my appiteit [23:52] mind the spelling [23:52] volkerdi, when you've finished with the TP [23:52] straterra: how could it be with things like this http://noobfarm.org/?id=1638 :P [23:52] the appetite comes back after a while [23:52] i've been on noobfarm [23:52] volkerdi: we can go Ridin' That Train, High on Cocaine, if you wish. [23:53] wait woah [23:53] PATRICK! IM A HUGE FAN! [23:53] Ok guys..where is the cheapest place to buy a shitload of legos? [23:53] the youngest of ours is eating like a horse again :P [23:53] i had no idea you were in here! [23:53] it was later than I thought [23:53] volkerdi, how are you? how is life? [23:53] volkerdi: i think you just found a groopie :P [23:53] hahaha [23:53] lol *another one?* [23:53] Action: macavity gets the cam ready [23:54] volkerdi, that's two tonight ;-) [23:54] no pictures please [23:54] Send him to the mailing list. [23:54] scissor me timbers! [23:54] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [23:54] volkerdi, how is it to be one of the lead project devs for a very first linux distro? [23:54] sucks [23:54] >_< [23:54] Wow. I bet nobody's ever asked that. [23:54] creamy [23:55] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [23:55] Creamy like..cream of mushroom? [23:55] i will never forget this moment [23:55] volkerdi: have you decided what to do with the snownews patch? are you gonna apply it before there is a new upstream release? [23:55] creappyyy [23:55] or creamy like a bisque? [23:55] or creamy like orange creamy? [23:55] thats not creamy [23:56] thats..sticky [23:56] or creamy like cream pie creamy? [23:56] hahaha [23:56] eeewww!! [23:56] ok im 16. no sex talk please [23:56] Like 1man and 1jar creamy. [23:56] pwnd [23:56] rworkman: s/man/strat/g [23:56] creamy like booyah creamy. [23:56] straterra: that was you? Ick. [23:56] sahko: I'm passing on it. Upstream didn't make the deadline, and I'm not the project repo. Thanks though. [23:56] isnt that obvious :P [23:57] no.. http://fuhell.com/bra/ is me! [23:57] rworkman: dont you have kids? [23:57] qpp (n=qpp@99-195-55-117.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:57] rworkman: i advice that you says "no comment" [23:57] volkerdi: didnt think you would. its very "intensive" anyway. [23:57] volkerdi, if somebody held a gun up to your head and asked when slackware 13.0 would be coming out, what would you say? like if you had to pick an exact date [23:57] Action: agentc0re spoons out eyes [23:57] straterra inquiring about kids.. that cant be good :P [23:57] I just want to know where to get legos [23:58] Neo_The_User: how about "FOAD" [23:58] :) [23:58] nice bra though [23:58] FOAD? [23:58] f off and die [23:58] we can't tell you what that means because you're underage [23:58] Well, I think I'd say [23:58] volkerdi (i=3321@connie.slackware.com) left irc: "leaving" [23:58] flaming on a dude [23:58] ohhh [23:58] tee hee [23:58] cigarettesmoker (n=nika@212.45.14.5) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:58] You scared pat off [23:58] nice one [23:58] ok i got 2 answers. 3rd one anything? [23:58] hahaha [23:59] *anybody [23:59] ahh shoot [23:59] fornicate on a deer ? [23:59] Neo_The_User: OMG the only time, ONLY time Pat ever, ever, ever comes in here and you scare him off.. [23:59] Neo_The_User: here's another: don't asked fucking stupid questions to waste his time. [23:59] :( [23:59] Neo_The_User: the amount of annoyance you cased him determins how long it will be before he comes back [23:59] im sorry guys [23:59] Nice one [00:00] --- Tue Aug 25 2009