[00:03] anyone know if the googleearth version at SBo needs qt4. if I launch it, I get the splash screen and that's it. but I I launch /opt/Googlearth/googleearth-bin I get a missing lib error for qt4. Anyone have that running. I dont have qt4 here so, well I dunno [00:04] pastebin? What are the libs in question? [00:04] Lapmann (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [00:06] I'm not on the box now atm, but it was libqt4 referenced when running that binary [00:06] was the only lib spammed in terminal [00:06] well. I know for a fact I was able to run google earth without qt4 [00:07] ok [00:07] that's all I needed to know, good I really dont wanna build that right now [00:07] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@166.198.106.108) left irc: "later, folks...thanks rworkman" [00:09] So download from /testing ? http://slackware.mirrors.pair.com/slackware-current/testing/packages/kde4/deps/qt-r912655-i486-1.tgz [00:09] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:09] maybe the lastest version requires qt4. I wouldn't know :X [00:11] tpollard_ (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [00:12] hmm the founder of foresight is working at Canonical now [00:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:13] Old_Fogie: GE works fine here. and no QT4 installed. [00:13] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:14] ok, so it must be that it can't run on radeon for me then ( no surprise there ) [00:14] Old_Fogie: latest G.E from SBo? [00:14] yes [00:14] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: [00:14] I've never had luck with that app, so this is nothing new. Was just trying for sake of trying, but oh well. [00:15] btw libQtCore.so.4 != QT4. [00:16] also, that's *WHY* you run /opt/GoogleEarth/googleearth. and not googleearth-bin. [00:16] trollasaurus (i=1011@38.105.84.199) joined ##slackware. [00:16] ah ok [00:16] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:16] /opt/GoogleEarth/googleearth is a shell script that make sure that the libraries that G.E comes with are properly found :) [00:17] Slackware 10.2 is still supported right ? I got a call from a customer indicating he thought it was no longer supported for some reason. [00:17] was trying to get something to put _something_ in terminal. you run /usr/bin/googleearth from a terminal, and just get a splash screen that sits there forever, and nothing mentioned in terminal at all. no idea what's wrong..quite frustrating. [00:17] trollasaurus: please tell your customer to stop thinking ;) [00:18] Old_Fogie: you have OpenGL drivers installed etc? [00:18] trollasaurus, cust is wrong. [00:18] I was just making sure I hadn't missed an important announcement somewhere.. [00:18] BP{k}, yes, games like nexuiz even run [00:18] trollasaurus, well there never is announcment when support ends that I know of. but 10.2 is still getting updates for sec fixes [00:18] trollasaurus: 8.1 is the lowest supported version that I know of. [00:19] New libpng packages are available for Slackware 8.1, 9.0, 9.1, 10.0, 10.1, [00:19] 10.2, 11.0, 12.0, 12.1, 12.2, and -current to fix a security issue. [00:19] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [00:19] but you wont see things like firefox upgraded to 3 series for example, and 2 is ?soon? no longer supported, so does that qualify as security, IDK, slackware doesnt have a policy for support that I'm aware of addressing things liek that. [00:20] dk (n=lima@dk.linuxsecured.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:20] hey if it's a customer, load and bill to put 12.2 on then. in this economy I'm sure you can use the business :) [00:20] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:20] BP, I saw that, but I didn't know if something happened between now and the 20th [00:21] 20th? [00:21] The date of the libpng patch [00:21] trollasaurus: nope. :) so you can tell your customer not to worry. :) [00:21] BP{k}, check his name...'troll' [00:22] Upgrading them to 12.2 would be a lot of work, and I'd have to go to their site (base on the other side of the country)... I have enough money and I'm lazy (which is why I use Slackware -- it keeps working) [00:25] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:33] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:37] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [00:41] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:43] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:46] faffi_ (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [00:46] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:49] bijit (i=chatzill@200.122.188.156) joined ##slackware. [00:50] if I have an executable file in /usr/sbin .. that runs as root..and chage the group..and I add a user to the grp will the user be able to exec? [00:50] if group can execute, yes. [00:51] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [00:51] heya [00:51] what would be more secure to give exec perm to group? or to sudo? [00:52] bijit: well, yes/no. if he file in /usr/bin calls other binaries, then the other binaries must allow the users too. [00:53] hey Old_Fogie long time no see [00:53] Has anyone here tried using gtkpod with one ipod between two different computers? [00:54] Yes, work has begun on a slackbook 3.0! Nice huh! [00:54] hello [00:56] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:57] with ldd I can see what other binaries it calls right? [00:58] you can see what other libraries are linked in [00:58] dynamically [00:58] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [00:58] c0vert (n=Tdot@76.68.89.225) joined ##slackware. [01:01] arisv_ (n=arisv@ppp-94-66-150-0.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [01:01] can I ask something? zd_rf.c in drivers/net/wireless/zd1211rw/ exists in slackware, but not in debian. why? [01:01] :) [01:01] wouldn't that be a #debian question [01:02] maybe [01:02] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [01:02] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:03] certainly [01:04] arisv_: because it's "non-free" http://wiki.debian.org/zd1211rw [01:04] drmanhattan (n=y@189-47-241-132.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [01:05] first hit you get for "zd1211rw debian" mind you :) [01:05] bash 4.0 os out [01:06] HexTasy_: I don't believe you, screenshot or it doesn't exist! :) [01:06] im here to remind everbody to backup [01:07] arisv_ (n=arisv@ppp-94-66-150-0.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [01:07] Backups are for suckers. [01:07] drmanhattan (n=y@189-47-241-132.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [01:07] Old_Fogie: gimme a sec [01:08] HexTasy_: it was a joke..get it..screenshot..or bash :) [01:08] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:09] lol [01:09] but I have one. :P [01:09] plipp (n=cam@m83-188-202-168.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [01:12] plipp1 (n=cam@m83-188-203-74.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. 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[01:25] heres a screenshot: (not my joke) [01:25] # [01:26] crap its 1:30am [01:26] argh [01:29] mshade (n=mshade@ip68-100-212-163.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:29] oh well, its a good sacrifice for testing kde4 [01:31] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:32] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:45] plipp1 (n=cam@m83-188-203-74.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:00] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:01] juice_ (i=juice@67.48.19.13) joined ##slackware. [02:03] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:06] Ongavezir (n=ongavezi@catv-80-98-178-84.catv.broadband.hu) joined ##slackware. [02:06] Wilkomnen brotha'z [02:07] Hol az ugyeletes kocsogocske? [02:07] Gesundheit. [02:07] Danke [02:08] Ongavezir: The language of this channel is english. [02:08] Guten morgen brotha' [02:08] Englische? [02:08] do you speak it? [02:08] Sprichen sie Englische? [02:08] Sorry, but my english is very poor:D [02:08] We mostly speak English here. [02:09] Okay, No problems [02:09] we only speak english here [02:09] Can I have one glass of beer? [02:09] Ongavezir: if you are more comfortable talking in German, you might try ##slackware.de [02:10] BP(k) koszonom dicsoseges tesverem [02:10] Danke [02:10] Action: BP{k} ^A^D's. back laterish. [02:11] Why I do not use slackware? [02:11] duryodhan (n=devdatta@nat/yahoo/x-85bc44f04c65d732) joined ##slackware. [02:11] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:11] In Hungary the Salckware not free for everybody [02:12] uhhh what [02:12] Ongavezir: ? [02:13] Yes? [02:13] why isn't it free ? [02:13] Ongavezir The Holyness online [02:13] Just because one LLC sell that distro [02:14] ogre25 (n=chatzill@64.55.144.15) joined ##slackware. [02:15] Ongavezir: "llc" ? 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[02:27] where can I set the MAILTO parameter for crond in slackware 12.1? [02:27] I want cron logs to be sent to my gmail address rather than the local mailbox for root [02:27] cweagans: man crond [02:29] I'm not sure what you are getting at....it tells me what I already know. I need to modify the default behavior. [02:30] could write a small script to do it, and execute every X amount of time [02:30] fortune is the name of that login thing, if that's what you're refering to [02:30] do what? I just want the email sent when the cron job is done [02:31] cron is not an email client [02:31] correct, [02:31] but it sends a status email when the job runs [02:31] by default, it sends to user@hostname.domain.com [02:32] which are set during install [02:32] I want to send to cweagans@gmail.com [02:32] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:33] Karu (n=alch@77-233-65-99.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [02:33] MAILADDR=root [02:33] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:33] pull out your text editor and search around /etc/cron.daily/ [02:35] not quite what I'm looking for... [02:35] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:35] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [02:35] cweagans: the cron's are just scripts, so not all jobs go to root, not all jobs go to anyone. you have to edit per script. sometimes, it's not the script, but a related config file somewhere on the box. if a script doesnt have anything for it , you can make your own with the mailto command. [02:36] ok, but my script only has this: "wget --delete-after http://blackstormsstudios.com/cron.php" [02:36] cweagans: or you could make a filter on your localmailbox to forward all cron mail to gmail [02:37] and when I type 'mail', I have a whole bunch of cron message [02:37] yeah so write a mail line after taht [02:37] s [02:37] cweagans: so if that's all your script is, then you'll never get any notice [02:37] Old_Fogie: but I do.....a whole bunch of them [02:37] every time it runs [02:37] I get a new message in the local mailbox for root [02:37] cweagans: cron just runs commands at a certain time. if you dont tell it the commands, it won't automatically do stuff [02:38] well, I dunno where these messages are coming from then. It's output from wget. [02:39] do you know? [02:40] how do I diagnose not being able to burn cds? [02:40] I dont know what to tell you, cron runs slocate... root doesnt get mail for that. So that's my point..not *all* cron jobs mail. [02:40] does slocate output anything? [02:40] if you want mail after the job is exucuted, you add the mail command in the job you're running [02:44] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-326388.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:44] byteframe cdrecord --scanbus [02:45] if you can't detect the device then it's likely a module issue [02:47] Soul_keeper, it detects the device, a SATA DVD Burner. [02:47] byteframe, are you trying to use cdrecord to do the burning ? or some weird frontend ? [02:48] brasero or nautilus cd burning in gnome. [02:48] I might have had to load the isofs module here, one moment. [02:49] you can easily burn directly with cdrecord if it's detecting it [02:49] otherwise sounds like a gnome problem [02:50] Soul_keeper, I'll try to get some debugging output from these programs. [02:50] for example cdrecord dev=1000,0,0 speed=50 whatever.iso [02:50] where the 3 comma separated numbers are from the scanbus output [02:50] do I need to be in cdrom group? [02:51] i dunno how your system is set up, i do burning as root ... [02:51] Scurry... [02:51] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:52] byteframe: cdrecord has to be modified in some way/shape form. setuid, or make it owned by group cd rom, and users must be part of that group to use it. stock issue slack is fail for brasero or nautilus [02:52] othermindszine (n=othermin@43.sub-70-192-58.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:52] your welcome [02:52] byteframe: read teh howtos, in the slack tree , it talks about it. changes and hints or readm, I forget which one [02:53] Sure thing. [02:53] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-72-37.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:54] I use brasero, but you can even use k3bsetup (as root) and then tell k3bsetup to make the binaries owned by root:cdrom, that'll work too if you're in a rush. [02:54] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-72-37.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:54] that's the way I use it, works better for me. I'm not big on suid binaries, or running as root [02:59] I'd realllly appreciate it if anyone with ispell could try this thing out: http://search.cpan.org/~jdporter/Lingua-Ispell-0.07/ -- I keep getting bash: ./spellcheck: /usr/local/bin/perl: bad interpreter: No such file or directory, and I'm not really sure what to do [02:59] duryodhan: how would I set up that filter you mentioned a little bit ago? [02:59] Beed, perhaps because the perl binary is in /usr/bin/perl. [03:00] cweagans: no idea.. google is your friend .. but it should be pretty easy [03:01] >.< [03:02] npad (n=nick@dsl211-146-242.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:04] freebse (n=freebse@a89-182-182-100.net-htp.de) joined ##slackware. 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[03:19] "which ispell" [03:20] /usr/bin/ispell [03:24] yup , sounds like that script has the wrong path in it again [03:25] pattwo (n=admin@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [03:27] Old_Fogie, could a crass substitution of /usr/local/bin/ispell with /usr/bin/ispell in every instance a feasible solution? :x [03:28] +prove to be [03:29] hi [03:29] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left ##slackware ("It's not your problem."). [03:32] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [03:33] Beed: 'crass' [03:33] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.37.223) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:34] Old_Fogie, yea, I'm just guessing.. what are your thoughts on it? a workable solution or not? :o [03:34] Old_Fogie, actually never mind, I don't think I'll be able to work it anyway. thanks anyway [03:35] isnt' there someway to exec the script like PERLDIR=/usr/bin/perl && foo.sh ? other than editing the script to reflect your system? maybe their script has some calls in it that say "which ispell" ...? like that? [03:35] vinegaroon (n=sam@203-184-35-137.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:35] djrr (i=1000@208.118.93.85) joined ##slackware. [03:35] many times scripts will do that, query the system with 'which foo' and then pass the results to $FOODIR=results-from-which-here [03:35] fyi: result of cron question: cron will send email whenever anything is output to STDOUT. It will, by default, be sent to the local mailbox of the user that owns the cron task. To redirect to another email account, you can run: echo "me@server.com" > ~/.forward [03:36] /join #seamonkey [03:36] alright, I'll try looking for it [03:37] cweagans (n=cweagans@71-38-86-59.bois.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [03:38] cweagans which is what we told you, put the email address in the script your running that you want it to goto :) [03:39] what a day [03:41] I come to work and people start complaining [03:41] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:42] I hate it when I get dissed before I can drink me coffee [03:42] that should be a hanging offence [03:43] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:49] slackytude: agreed [03:49] Old_Fogie, morning [03:50] :) [03:50] looks like my update on friday overwrote some stuff [03:51] no reason to bug me before I drink me coffee, tho [03:51] sounds like an idea for a new work uniform/T-shirt I say [03:51] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:54] ROKO__ (n=RoKo__@85.217.253.176) joined ##slackware. [03:54] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.41.28) left irc: "Leaving" [03:56] sidmario_ (n=m@200.158.63.127) joined ##slackware. [03:56] djrr (i=1000@208.118.93.85) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:57] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:59] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[05:33] Hello [05:33] I have problems with the widelands slackbuild [05:33] can any one help [05:35] ? [05:35] I can paste the error output [05:36] if its one line [05:36] if error msg is large, use a pastebin website [05:37] ok, but how I have not uset pastebin.com so far [05:37] used [05:37] im sure you can figure it out [05:38] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "Leaving" [05:38] i pasted it there but i do not know how you will be able to see it [05:38] http://pastebin.com/m3adf1631 [05:38] if you give me the url then i can see it [05:39] maybe you should see this [05:39] ok [05:39] I figured it out then [05:39] :) [05:40] did you see the link I posted [05:40] ? [05:40] http://pastebin.com/m3adf1631 [05:41] did you install the dependancies first? [05:42] yes i saw the link you pasted [05:42] Yes I did [05:42] Requires SDL_gfx, boost, and scons. Available at SlackBuilds.org. [05:42] a guy on #slackbuilds already tried to help me [05:43] yes I have installed all the dependencies [05:43] and that guy built it successfully on his system [05:43] i don't know what the error means [05:43] he said that I have probably messed something up with python [05:43] that was me and the slackbuild worked fine [05:43] but I have not touchet python [05:44] touched [05:44] ok [05:44] you are running slackware 12.2 ? [05:44] I hope someone might give me a clue [05:44] yes [05:44] 12.2 [05:45] marto28sf tried to install without slackbuild? [05:46] I tried installing it by means of sbopkg [05:47] i.e. with the slackbuild [05:49] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:50] hey, got a new monitor, but i cant install the drivers :( wine doesnt launch them, tried googling nothing good [05:50] any other options apart from installing windows [05:51] drivers for a monitor? [05:51] yeah lol [05:51] i know weird [05:51] what would these drivers do? [05:54] extra options with the settings [05:54] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [05:54] that i cant use now [05:54] lol [05:55] marto28sf, as I said, I could give you the tgz package I just built [05:55] tank-man: it actually says "Monitor driver" on the cd [05:55] ok, send it to me please [05:55] does it say linux on the cd? [05:55] is it possible via IRC_ [05:55] ? [05:57] tank-man: obviously it doesnt [05:57] >_> [05:59] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "leaving" [05:59] last few monitors ive bought from samsung had linux on the box [05:59] printers too [06:00] does anyone know about ocz core v2 on linux, is working fine, does it have interrupts any problem on ext3 or reiserfs partitions ? [06:02] i am talking about SSD [06:04] ROKO__ (n=RoKo__@85.217.253.176) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:05] ejal (n=ejal@93-173-106-65.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. 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[06:38] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "leaving" [06:39] Ro8inB (i=0@c83-248-8-198.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [06:39] hello guys [06:39] and gals [06:39] where can i see what network card i use? [06:40] lspci [06:40] AlanCox (n=Lee@85.139.11.22) joined ##slackware. [06:41] perhaps "lspci|grep -i ether" or the like [06:44] SlackLnx (n=Lee@85.139.11.176) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:45] ok, thank you. [06:48] is it the Ethernet controller? [06:48] if you use ethernet, then yes [06:48] ok. [06:51] RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller. does this look correct to you i got the RTL8101 Family. [06:52] correct in what sense? [06:52] that it is the right driver. [06:53] lspci doesn't show drivers [06:53] ok does it show the exact hardware? [06:54] lspci shows what PCI identification numbers are on the pci bus. those numbers are then crossreferenced with a text file, which has full names in those [06:55] run update-pciids first [06:55] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:55] no need, if it already shows the expected result [06:56] fsc{k} (n=foldings@68-117-248-108.dhcp.mtgy.al.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:56] but are there any way that i can see if i got the right driver for my network card? [06:57] if u have the right driver , you'll see eth0 on ifconfig -a list [06:58] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:58] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:59] so there isn't a way to have the wrong driver installed? If it works it is the correct driver then? [06:59] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-70-86.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [07:00] now u know what card u own , u can check kernel documentation to know what driver name it launches ... then lsmod will list the modules , u can check if its there [07:01] but if its working , proper driver was launched [07:01] u can remove driver and re-launch and check dmesg for info [07:02] SlackLnx (n=Lee@85.139.11.24) joined ##slackware. [07:02] iv'e read that i should have r8101.ko driver. [07:02] can happen wrong driver beeing launched , and hardware wont work [07:02] 8101 or 8180 ? [07:03] 8101 [07:03] wireless or wired ? [07:03] wired. [07:03] ok wired [07:04] I'll check it out, ill be back ;) [07:04] thank you DeeP [07:04] ok [07:10] Ro8inB: please keep in mind... for slackware 12.1 I had to compile the driver from the Realtek site because the kernel one had multicast problems (and thus a non-functional IPv6 discover) [07:11] ok, zosma. Is it the same for 12.2? [07:11] I dunno. [07:11] :-) [07:11] :) [07:11] It's an updated kernel so it could be fixed. [07:11] JahNkie (i=54032993@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a8332520be6ca9b3) joined ##slackware. [07:11] hi all [07:11] i found this, do you think this is what it's using? r8169 31236 0 [07:11] But if you don't get IPv6 working properly or something it might save you some time :-) [07:12] Wich is better: SceneAcces/SceneTorrents? [07:12] JahNkie: ehm did you join the correct channel? [07:12] i don know:) [07:13] Check topic. [07:13] this is first record for torrent [07:13] SceneAcces? [07:13] JahNkie: This channel is about slackware (http://www.slackware.com/) [07:13] hehe [07:13] ok [07:14] what is sceneaccess? [07:14] torrent site [07:14] i guess [07:14] yea [07:14] aha ok [07:14] AlanCox (n=Lee@85.139.11.22) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:14] r8169 31236 0 [07:14] [07:14] i have to choose between these 2 invite [07:15] Ro8inB, i've been looking too , and found also that driver ... i dont think it will work [07:15] anyway , do you have eth0 on ifconfig -a list ? [07:15] do you think this is the driver that it uses? [07:15] yes DeeP [07:16] Ro8inB: I dunno, you probably just need the 8169 driver. [07:16] hmm , then it should be working [07:16] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [07:16] but i got the 8101. [07:16] Yeah that's one covered IIRC. Let me check the source. [07:16] * r8169.c: RealTek 8169/8168/8101 ethernet driver. [07:16] * [07:16] * Copyright (c) 2002 ShuChen [07:16] ..etc [07:16] yes everything works its just one program that stop working after a while. [07:17] looks like it works :) [07:17] ok zosma [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-72-37.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-74-191.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:17] and someone told me it could be driver problems [07:17] JahNkie: we don't have anything to do with torrentsites here... so please ask elsewhere. [07:18] (apart from the Slackware torrent ofcourse) [07:18] Action: slackytude wonders what scene that is [07:18] and why anybody would ask for advise about that in #slackware [07:19] Yeah I wonder too. [07:19] Ro8inB: what program stops working exactly? [07:19] scene is warez [07:20] but serach for scene [07:20] and why do you ask about that in here? [07:20] soory, i did not think, its a problem [07:21] slackware is not related to warez / scene [07:22] but name is lulz slapware^^ [07:24] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:24] slackware [07:25] slap [07:25] bye [07:25] JahNkie (i=54032993@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a8332520be6ca9b3) left ##slackware. [07:25] ...somebody's gonna get slapped, yeah [07:25] bah [07:25] What a joker. [07:26] not sure he counts as that. Jokers might at least be funny... [07:26] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [07:26] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn75.91-127-248.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [07:28] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [07:28] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [07:31] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [07:31] wireshark stops capturing packets after about 5 min. [07:31] insert 0.25$ to continue [07:32] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [07:32] have you tried turning it off and on again? [07:32] but iv'e heard its not what i should be talking about in this forum. [07:32] huh? [07:34] Zosma: here is capture of my eth1: http://pastebin.ca/1345774 [07:36] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:39] Ro8inB: I find it weird that you too haven't got a IPv6 global scope address. [07:39] So it might be the same problem I had. [07:39] ok. So should i update the driver? [07:39] You might want to pull the latest driver from the Realtek site and try again. [07:39] Yeah it's not a guarantee though. [07:39] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "#E>6C" [07:40] But I've twice in my life needed their latest driver instead of the kernel one. [07:40] Mmm grammar. [07:40] Zosma: ok, ill get back to you in a moment [07:41] Aye. I'm out of ideas otherwise... [07:41] fAu (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [07:42] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4F35B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Success [07:43] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4F35B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:44] what exactly is IPv6 used for? [07:45] jonathanr (n=jonathan@87-194-164-154.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:45] Ehm every program that can make use of it... it's the successor of IPv4 but you don't really need it (yet). [07:46] aha ok. 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[07:56] wakeup: look in source/d/ [07:57] wakeup: for example http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-12.2/source/d/mercurial/ [07:58] ah thank you [08:03] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [08:06] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:08] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:10] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:12] Benjsh (n=benjsh@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:12] hi [08:12] can someone help me change the slack.bmp in lilo boot [08:12] i just get unsupported bitmap [08:12] i tried everything [08:12] even to convert to16 colors [08:13] SlackLnx (n=Lee@85.139.11.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:13] ummm [08:13] its not a bitmap, iirc [08:14] i've changed it before. [08:15] i am trying to convert jpg to bmp with gimp [08:15] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/the-definitive-guide-to-lilo-boot-splashing-418094/ [08:15] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:18] tino27 (n=tino27@cpe-24-93-187-187.neo.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.11.3 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [08:21] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn75.91-127-248.t-com.sk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:21] i cant it to work [08:22] kama (n=kama@host35-115-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:22] npad|home (n=nick@pool-173-66-2-167.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:22] Benjsh, just file format conversion ? [08:23] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:23] sidmario_ (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:23] i have jpg that i convert to bmp [08:23] and try to load [08:23] but i keep getting errors [08:23] try with 'convert' (it's from ImageMagick, in /xap) [08:24] how do you mean? [08:24] convert in gimp? [08:24] nooper, in a terminal [08:24] Benjsh, did you read the link I gave you? [08:24] if you don't need to rework it, 'convert file.jpg file.bmp' is enough [08:26] i tried with convert [08:26] and it still says unsupported bitmap [08:26] :( :( [08:26] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn125.78-99-79.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [08:27] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.38.192) joined ##slackware. [08:27] is anyone running Google Earth on an Intel GMA950 card, mine is very slow [08:28] Benjsh: the BMPs lilo can use have certain restrictions, like only 256 colours among other things. [08:28] Are you taking this into account? [08:29] You should read the link (and the link contained within) that slackytude gave you. [08:31] why make it easy when you can make it super complex [08:31] it is a nvidia card [08:31] brand new computer and i cant even change a simple bmp [08:31] crappy [08:31] Benjsh (n=benjsh@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: [08:32] ... [08:32] well, having a nvidia card is vital for a task like that [08:32] He left. [08:32] I know [08:32] hehe okay. [08:32] god, where do they slither in from. [08:32] Bah I just don't understand what people think... it's a boot screen for crying out loud. [08:33] chopp: :-) [08:34] sometimes i got a problem with my boot [08:34] sometimes it loads the framebuffer , i can see 2 penguins above the screen [08:34] sometimes it just wont load it [08:34] I just watched Transponder 3, what an awsome movie. [08:34] cant figure why [08:35] err I mean Transporter 3 [08:36] DeeeP: dunno, never had that issue myself. [08:36] ok [08:37] hey guys, should usb camera work on vbox? [08:38] i mean should it transfer from host to guest screens ? 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[08:53] hi [08:58] hello, I did something a while back that screwed up the appears of my mouse cursor in all of its various incarnations. How can I get it back to normal? I restarted X and that had no affect. [08:58] appearance that is [08:59] taub (n=taub@ip-90-187-12-145.web.vodafone.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:59] I'm running 12.1 [09:00] What did you do "awhile back" that started this? [09:01] I have no idea. it was a long time ago. I've just been trying to ignore it for a couple weeks [09:02] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:07] jimpy (n=james@88-97-9-91.dsl.zen.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:07] r0dr1g0 (i=fdssdafd@189.106.49.175) joined ##slackware. [09:12] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.167) joined ##slackware. [09:14] can anybody recommend me a good image viewer [09:14] qt or gtk? [09:15] qt = gwenview gtk=... :) [09:15] skibur: I like gpicview - simple, and light - gtk [09:15] thanks [09:17] gqview is nice too [09:17] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-181-114-12.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [09:18] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [09:18] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [09:19] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [09:19] gpicview++ [09:19] gqview is default on slackware though [09:20] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [09:20] I don't like gqview [09:22] I have to admit I don't really like it either [09:22] alkos333 (n=alkos333@nmd.sbx10826.dekalil.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [09:23] slackware needs a good quality image viewer [09:24] by default [09:24] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:24] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [09:24] what is it with people... [09:25] ? [09:25] Bitching over an image viewer? [09:25] get over it [09:25] there's ristretto too btw, but it depends on python and is a bit slower [09:25] does anyone know what subsystem the mouse cursor even relies on when in an X session? Is it X itself or gpmd ? I just need some keywods so I can go poiking at my system. [09:25] bennymac1, gpm is only for console, in X, it's X [09:25] so -> xorg.conf [09:26] skibur: i think picasa is availale at slackbuilds.org... if that's more your style.. [09:26] I like gqview [09:26] I have like about 20+ folders for images [09:26] and riesseto too or however its called [09:27] yeah i like gqview [09:27] the must be something else that's persistent in memory because I ctrl+alt+bs my X server which brought me back to my gdm login. Or, does having gdm running make it so X is not really shutdown? [09:27] thanks [09:28] bennymac1, crap, I made an error : I was thinking about gpm, not gdm [09:28] Nick change: HexTasy_ -> HexTasy [09:28] afaik, gdm relies on X [09:29] I suppose I could telinit 3 and then come back to 4? [09:30] bennymac1, I prefer not add anything, I really don't know much about *dm (I don't use them) [09:30] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [09:30] r0dr1g0 (i=fdssdafd@189.106.49.175) left irc: [09:31] they run in background all the time and restart X if you kill it [09:33] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:33] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [09:33] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:33] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1392 [09:34] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [09:35] heh [09:35] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [09:36] mib_0du75qtk (i=d2d40558@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-49a8e373c1b79590) left irc: Client Quit [09:38] slackytude, ^^ [09:43] http://www.mom2summit.com/ <- "Mom 2.0 Summit" :D [09:46] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:51] volo (n=volo@84.224.59.30) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:51] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [09:53] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.167) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [09:54] Camarade_Tux, mom2summit? wtf? [09:54] heh, we should paste that in #ubuntu-women [09:54] [ in bed ] [09:56] hehe [09:56] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [09:58] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:58] 99.9% in #ubuntu-women are probably men. [10:01] nah [10:01] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:01] greeting Old_Fogie [10:01] earily morning [10:01] ? [10:01] hidee ho [10:01] me, nope didnt go sleep yet, had all nighter todo for work [10:01] fun [10:01] been too many of them lately actually [10:02] no fun [10:02] not at all, well , unless it all pays off in the end I s'pose [10:02] wacha doing? [10:02] reviewing drawings of buildings for upgrades [10:02] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.167) joined ##slackware. [10:03] this valve here, this electric here..tedious [10:03] SlackLnx (n=Lee@85.139.11.35) joined ##slackware. [10:03] eh [10:03] heh, not the typical ##slackware idler :) [10:04] you know, we make software for that [10:04] very cheap too [10:04] snoop dogg says drop it like it's hot [10:04] your company does? [10:05] Action: slackytude nods [10:05] just 1000euro [10:05] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:05] for the beginner edition [10:06] which wont help you at all [10:06] slackytude, I see. Yeah this stuff here is the 'conceptual' stage. It's called design a building in your head, put a price on it, and the design better work, cuz they're gonna beat you up later if you ask for a penny extra. [10:06] slackytude, oh and make a drawing cuz the finance people, well they like pretty pictures [10:06] heh, great fun [10:07] yeah, making pictures is important [10:07] yes, so these drawings, that I'm making are by hand, I'll give them to one of my sketchers when I get in the office, have him draw it up. [10:07] best if you can walk around in a 3d simulation [10:07] old school [10:07] slackytude, hehe, I think you could paste it there while I watch :p [10:07] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.61.116) joined ##slackware. [10:07] you remember 'velim' :) [10:07] got my t-square out and all [10:07] rapid__ (i=rapid@c220-239-129-83.dandn1.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [10:07] bennymac1 (n=benb@24.75.15.14) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:07] velim? doesnt ring a bell [10:08] very light paper. [10:08] I'm drawing it by hand, pc's cant keep up [10:08] Camarade_Tux, heh, Im not sucidial enough [10:08] old mechanical drafting in action [10:08] I wonder if I'm banned there ;p [10:08] my father did that [10:08] slackytude, it's still faster than pc for conceptual [10:08] probably [10:09] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: "leaving" [10:09] not my area of expertise. Im a CS student, I cant do anything useful [10:09] Nick change: rapid__ -> rapid [10:09] Action: slackytude is trapped inside a turing machine [10:09] Action: Camarade_Tux starts UT3'ing :) [10:10] now...if we had a program that took my drawings, and converted it to AuotCAD...well that would be something I'd really look at. [10:10] slackytude, at least you won't lack memory there :D [10:10] Old_Fogie, not a bad idea [10:10] Camarade_Tux, sucks at I/O tho :D [10:11] Old_Fogie, not sure how many ppl would use it tho [10:11] slackytude, yup an OCR if you will. you have any idea, how many buildings, built in the 50's that are all photocopy ontop of photocopy , nothing on the PC. many jobs we get, are just converting from paper to CAD, hey whatever pays the bills I guess. [10:11] buildings..50-80's [10:11] 30 years of buildings..all on paper [10:11] sounds like a student job [10:12] more like a business really. considering, the thousands of devices that can be on a drawing, and the symbols of them can change from one building to the next..could probably be a big undertaking. 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[10:24] do pcmcia cards for eth need anything special done? this pc here had 12.1 on it, just loaded it with 12.2 and it has no idea what to do with it [10:25] other than +x on rc.pcmcia of course [10:25] alkos333 (n=alkos333@nmd.sbx10826.dekalil.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:27] my lappy handle it fine, iirc [10:27] leave [10:27] garyg007 (n=gary@h151.118.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left ##slackware. [10:28] slackytude, yeah maybe cuz it's a 16bit card? ran it for 2 years on zip slack, a year on 12.1 now. 12.2 ain't digging this. just plugged in a usb 1.0 nic, that works, so the networking is all config'd right..huh [10:29] Old_Fogie, no clue, really. I didnt have that laptop for long as it was a POS. pcmcia ethernet worked tho, but not much else [10:29] gotcha [10:30] buying second hand aint always fun [10:30] I have a Cisco Aironet 340 PCMCIA card that just works. [10:30] maybe becuase this card is 16bit, and my yenta is too? [10:31] cpu MHz : 167.046 bogomips : 334.09 [10:31] :) [10:31] heh, fun [10:32] `cisco aironets ftw ;) [10:32] enough to use it with wpa, play a cd, and freenx to a real box thru vpn/radius :) [10:32] you got X on that thing? [10:32] wpa/wireless 16bit card too, tho this one here is 10 mbs only [10:32] yup x too [10:32] eh [10:32] only 800 meg used, [10:33] right now it's 1.5 gig tho [10:33] just a thin client? [10:33] yup, but wireless and secure [10:33] but if 12.2 ain't liking my yenta..I may have to go back to 12.1 then [10:33] Ive read a lot about linux thin clients solution lately [10:34] feels native to me to be honest. [10:34] well, my slack at work is mostly used for rdp sessions into win machines [10:34] Bigshot__ (n=Bigshot_@CPE0013f7f0ea52-CM0013f7f0ea4e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [10:34] the linux rdesktop client is way better than the MS counterpart, imho [10:35] this has rdesktop too :) [10:35] Ive got a slack with two monitors and usually 4 windows rdesktop sessions open, which I can juggle around [10:35] can run rdesktop over ssh , and freenx same time [10:35] yeah, its nice [10:36] nx machines are nice too [10:36] but on a p166 :) [10:36] heh [10:36] this has a lot of ram tho [10:36] probably it's saving grace. [10:36] yeah [10:36] ram is always welcome [10:36] the hard drive, well it likes to make "clink clink crunch sounds" but it's been doing that for years, so I aint worried. [10:37] hehe [10:37] it probably only turns 20 rpm, so not much damage I guess hahaha [10:37] how much is a lot of ram? [10:37] 128MB [10:38] is any one else having issues with google right now? [10:38] 153060..so whats' that then? [10:38] nix_chix0r: not over ipv6 [10:38] I took the other stick out for the other laptop, used to have double that iirc [10:38] nix_chix0r, nope [10:38] i keep getting connection interrupted [10:39] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [10:39] and now it's up again. weird [10:39] that's what she said [10:39] [ in bed ] [10:39] hee /me goes back to his hole [10:39] viagra ftw ;) [10:40] viva viagra [10:40] Action: Old_Fogie humss the words.... [10:40] nix_chix0r, there is a report about a gmail outtake on slashdot. not sure if thats relevant for you? [10:40] Nick change: Bigshot__ -> Bigshot_ [10:41] Bigshot_ (n=Bigshot_@CPE0013f7f0ea52-CM0013f7f0ea4e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware. [10:41] gmail was loading for me, it kept signing me out somewhere else but it actually would load . i was just trying to do searches on google and they kept timing out insantly [10:42] Action: slackytude shurgs [10:42] not for me [10:42] shrugs even [10:42] altho, I like the sound of shurgs [10:42] Action: slackytude shurgs [10:42] [ in bed ] [10:44] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-326388.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:45] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:45] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [10:45] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) joined ##slackware. [10:46] good `date +%r` [10:47] 07:47:01 AM [10:47] almost time to go home [10:47] 04:51:20 PM [10:47] Action: slackytude is bored [10:49] google pisses me off QQ [10:49] hi [10:49] why ? [10:49] the hotkey of the power of 2 ? aka ^2 ? [10:50] good `date +%r` [10:50] Action: antler gives slackytude c.c. catch, modern talking, and a few david hasselhof posters [10:50] O_o [10:50] uhh, thanks... I guess [10:51] that should keep me warm on cold nights [10:51] david keeps all of germany warm on cold nights... [10:51] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [10:51] by burning his posters? thats what I plan on doing [10:51] fine german tradition [10:55] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host56-73.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [10:55] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host56-73.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [10:56] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn125.78-99-79.t-com.sk) left ##slackware ("switching"). [11:00] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.168.180) joined ##slackware. [11:01] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:02] where do i get mkfs.yaffs2 [11:02] Nick change: Guest87990 -> npad [11:03] any idea wher I can find this program to mount yaffs2 img? [11:03] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[12:18] Action: edman007 blames tank-man [12:19] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-175-85.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:20] ive seen the same drive wit hthe g-force (accelerometer) at almost same price [12:20] when it was on sale at ncix.com [12:21] now it isnt on sale [12:21] $88 CAD (70 usd) [12:22] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-27-197.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:22] Nick change: faffi -> ifaff [12:27] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:29] :( [12:38] poona (n=poona@122.172.42.91) left irc: "Reconnecting&" [12:38] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [12:39] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.68) joined ##slackware. [12:40] ejal (n=ejal@93-173-106-65.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: "Leaving" [12:41] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [12:42] Karu (n=alch@77-233-65-99.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:42] guys is anyone using snmpv3? [12:42] Karu (n=alch@77-233-65-99.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Ro8inB (i=0@c83-248-8-198.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:46] nachox: negative.. never could get itw orking right hehe [12:46] hehe [12:47] mbhayes, btw, you guys use callmanager right? [12:47] GArik (n=wesnoth@80.246.88.171) joined ##slackware. [12:47] Tib001 (n=Tiberius@41-208-48-160.mtn.co.za) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:47] nachox: cisco ? [12:47] no [12:48] We work with companies that use it, but we don't do it directly. [12:48] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [12:49] ifaff (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:49] ifaff (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [12:49] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:51] anyone knows video streaming tools ? [12:51] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-195000.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:51] UB001 (n=Tiberius@41-208-48-160.mtn.co.za) joined ##slackware. [12:52] maybe gnump3d? [12:52] im looking for a solution that streams all my upload bandwith to a server , and then the server streams to various clients [12:52] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [12:52] n0on3 (n=n0on3@81-208-83-247.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] mmm netcat ? [12:53] spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] like shoutcast , but with video [12:54] UB001, netcat , how ? [12:57] SpyKee (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:11] spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:12] hi all [13:12] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:14] hi gar0t0 [13:14] wakeup: :) [13:20] gar0t0, u br ? [13:20] DeeeP: yes [13:21] ok :) [13:21] DeeeP: :) [13:21] DeeeP: where are you from ? [13:21] gar0t0, Madeira Islands , PT [13:21] :) [13:21] DeeeP: cool [13:22] yeah :) [13:22] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:25] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:27] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-115-23.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [13:29] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [13:31] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:11] josemanuel (n=josemanu@231.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:15] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl234-213.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:16] nick4 (n=fffeop@adsl234-213.kln.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [15:16] giuppy (n=giuppy@host215-160-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:16] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [15:17] http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/24/1310250 [15:17] i was there! [15:17] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-162-72.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [15:17] lol [15:18] i watched the launch from outside a military radar base on a hill adjacent to the launch pad [15:18] does samba allows printing jobs to be send from a linux machine to a windows machine? [15:18] spiki (n=spiki@77.46.181.146) joined ##slackware. [15:19] I have a printer that seems not to be completely supported in Linux and then looks like I have to use employ windows to do any printing that I need [15:20] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:21] dissociative: what do u mean by 'employ windwos? [15:21] windows* [15:21] seems to me like he means windows has to be a print server... [15:21] yes [15:22] nullboy: its possible tu run a windows print server on linux? [15:22] the printer cups drivers seem to be just junk [15:23] dissociative: printer type? [15:23] I'm having a very strange problem with a disk, which claims to have no space, but df says it has 23GB [15:23] run a windows print server on linux? you can send print jobs to windows print servers but i don't know how you run windows print servers on linux [15:24] you'd run samba servers on linux to do the other direction [15:24] pupit: usb inkjet [15:24] nullboy: it is all clear now :) [15:24] hrm, remounting the drive doesn't help [15:24] nullboy: I was thinking in using a Virtual Machine maybe but I never had tried that [15:25] dissociative: i wanted to suggest u that [15:25] kamaji: what type of FS? [15:25] nullboy: ext3 [15:25] nullboy: er, I think [15:25] well you should know! [15:25] virtualbox will do the work [15:25] yeah it's ext3 [15:25] pupit: still I havent used any kind of VM in linux [15:25] I thought I should check :P [15:25] dissociative: use virtualbox [15:26] dissociative: http://www.virtualbox.org/ it has all what u need and its very simple, runs on slack very smoothly.. [15:26] sweet, now i got a big drive on my Mac :D [15:26] 320GB 7200rpm in a laptop :) [15:26] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [15:27] g'day [15:27] Action: edman007 waves [15:27] dissociative: i have the same problem with my hp scanner... best solution is VM... [15:28] Action: pupit waves :D [15:28] nice to hear that it works? [15:28] never tried it! [15:30] nullboy: I do need to send jobs to a windows print server [15:30] ljubak (n=ljubak@c-bg-d-p6-246.BVCOM.NET) joined ##slackware. [15:30] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:30] dissociative: since u run windows in virtual machine, probably good thing is to give printing jobs from windows, not slack [15:30] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [15:31] pupit: but I would like to try both things [15:31] fine to me [15:32] Action: pupit tries to help.. [15:32] josemanuel (n=josemanu@231.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [15:39] edman007: Well what are you going to do with all that space, all that space inside that Mac? :P [15:39] ... [15:39] Action: edman007 slaps agentc0reWORK [15:39] lol [15:40] get to work [15:40] Waiting for DD to finish. So I'm kind of board and don't want to do real work :P [15:40] haha [15:41] well i think now that i have space i can put slack and OSX on it :) [15:41] and then i can play with EFI open source ati drivers [15:41] http://www.vandenberg.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123136806 [15:41] .mil eh? [15:41] are they going to shoot me for looking? [15:42] hmm, looks like that are going to try and kill me with a dead satellite [15:42] Ouch, that sucks it failed. [15:43] i watched the launch and it looked fine from my vantage [15:43] something happened much later apparently [15:43] Have you heard about where it crashed? [15:43] And if it survived? [15:44] agentc0reWORK, it hit the earth already? [15:44] agentc0reWORK: Antarctic [15:44] she's dead jim [15:45] Heh. Ya i would say so. [15:46] that was the first space launch i've ever watched at it was awesome [15:47] You were physically there or on TV/Web? [15:47] i was there\ [15:47] ! [15:47] That is awesome. [15:47] I'm jealous. [15:47] Man-erg (n=meck@85-18-136-67.fastres.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:48] lannders (n=lannders@107-149.126-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:48] lol [15:50] I would love to have a job in the Space/Astronomy field. [15:50] yeah that would be fun [15:52] i could use some pointers on to compile klibc successfully :) [15:53] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [15:54] does anybody know how to force skype to use xshm instead of xv? i get ugly flickering video with xcompmgr... or is there another, a little more graceful compmgr? [15:55] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. 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[16:02] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:02] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.168.180) joined ##slackware. [16:05] pyfen (n=fsma@unaffiliated/fenderx) joined ##slackware. [16:06] pyfen (n=fsma@unaffiliated/fenderx) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]" [16:08] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-27-197.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [16:09] anyone uses pidgin ? [16:09] yep [16:09] i do [16:09] do you get any certificate problem with rsi.hotmail.com ? [16:09] i don't use it with MSN [16:09] zErOaCid: nope [16:10] i did try googling it but it seems i can't export the cert [16:10] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [16:10] maybe i'll just try compiling the 2.5.4 source [16:10] that's the version i use anyway [16:10] zErOaCid, i do [16:10] nullboy: did you compile it from source ? [16:11] zErOaCid: just use the stock slackbuild and modify it [16:11] no , came with slackware [16:11] 2.5.3 Fix an error with offline messages by shipping the new "Microsoft Secure Server Authority" and the "Microsoft Internet Authority" certificates. These are now always installed even when using --with-system-ssl-certs because most systems don't ship those intermediate certificates. [16:11] so i'll just download the source and modify .slackbuild ? [16:11] zErOaCid: yes [16:12] got it .. will try that one nullboy [16:12] no [16:12] use 2.5.4 [16:12] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [16:12] yep i'lll use the 2.5.4 source then modify the .slackbuild version? [16:12] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:15] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cca75.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:15] i can't seem to find the slackbuild of pidgin [16:15] oh crap, you're supposed to run fsck in single user mode? [16:16] zErOaCid: pidgin is part of the distribution, look in the sources [16:16] wakeup (n=wakeup@koln-4db42f96.pool.einsundeins.de) left irc: "leaving" [16:16] kamaji: you don't have to. Just run it on an unmounted filesystem [16:17] oh ok [16:17] well I did that :\ [16:17] hopefully it's still alive [16:17] zErOaCid: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/source/xap/pidgin/ ? [16:18] mannynix: can i have a spoon full too? [16:18] :) [16:18] lol i already saw one with alienBOBs [16:19] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.211) joined ##slackware. [16:20] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. 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"df -h" is inconsistent in its own output even after i've run fsck.ext3 over the disk :< [16:26] ok i'll install that one .. thanks [16:26] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:27] nullboy: but slackbuilds has a build for 12.1 ;) [16:27] indeed it does! [16:30] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [16:31] Karu (n=alch@77-233-65-99.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:35] ljubak (n=ljubak@c-bg-d-p6-246.BVCOM.NET) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:39] ljubak (n=ljubak@91.150.114.190) joined ##slackware. [16:41] Does slack keep a log of disk space anywhere? [16:42] a log? [16:42] no [16:42] kamaji: No. [16:42] daww :\ [16:42] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] logging disk space? [16:42] use cacti [16:43] nah, I just wanted to see where it all went [16:43] I think my discrepancy is from ext3's overhead [16:43] which is apparently about 5% [16:43] use filelight then [16:44] how is that fixed, tune2fs -m 0 /dev/#### ? [16:44] it was just the "Size: 459, Used: 419, Avail: 17" thing that was confusing me [16:44] or ncdu [16:44] i do that to all non / disk partitions [16:45] Pig_Pen: what does it do exactly? [16:45] like /home /extra / [16:45] makes the reserved space for root go to zero resrved [16:46] oh, I thought that space was to do with journaling overhead or something? [16:46] 5% is a lot when you have a disk partition of several gigs [16:46] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [16:47] so it's pretty safe to set to 0 for just a storage disk? [16:47] yup [16:47] hm, ok :D [16:47] thanks [16:48] hooray, I have space again :D [16:48] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-146-7.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:49] thanks again =D [16:49] kamaji: rm'ed your root? :D [16:49] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [16:49] lol, naw :P [16:50] < Pig_Pen> how is that fixed, tune2fs -m 0 /dev/#### ? [16:51] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:53] [-m reserved_blocks_percent] [16:55] someone still uses ext2? [16:55] ext3 ? [16:55] aah ok [16:56] I hear ext4 is nice, but I haven't got a big enough drive to back up all my data, heheh [16:57] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:57] you can convert 3 to 4 [16:57] Action: lns40 now has 2 500gb drives 1 320gb drive and 1 120gb drive on his desktop [16:58] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [16:58] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [16:58] ifaff (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:58] lns40, why so much storage ? [16:59] DeeeP: torrents [16:59] ifaff (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [16:59] he gotta put all the pr0n somewhere [16:59] no way, it's all linux isos [16:59] :D [16:59] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.180.77.255) joined ##slackware. [16:59] linuxx isos??? why? are you running a mirror? [16:59] Pig_Pen: thats right [17:00] Pig_Pen: the pr0n that is [17:00] heh [17:00] that must be some collection [17:00] ;) [17:01] smut! [17:01] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cca75.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:01] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [17:01] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[17:20] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Client Quit [17:21] ljubak (n=ljubak@91.150.114.190) left irc: Success [17:21] Nick change: sidmario_ -> sidmario [17:28] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [17:30] http://pastebin.com/m30822b45 [17:35] hehe, I would have removed the plug ;) [17:37] lowkyalur (n=low@icm7-orange.orange.sk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:37] lowkyalur (n=low@icm7-orange.orange.sk) joined ##slackware. [17:38] hey how to I view flash files I've downloaded? [17:39] mplayer ? [17:39] flash-player-standalone [17:41] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [17:41] Camarade_Tux: did you see the one about the Purina diet? [17:41] avidumux [17:42] mplayer does fine with them. [17:42] Pig_Pen, no [17:42] mplayer will play vids i copy from /tmp and i just rename them with a .flv file extension [17:43] http://pastebin.com/d60bdbd46 Camarade_Tux [17:44] whenever i visit youtube using seamonkey it puts video files in /tmp with names like flash####### with a random string of characters after the flash name [17:45] Pig_Pen, lol ^^ [17:46] i knew you would like it, it was one of the better email jokes i got in a long time [17:47] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:55] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-115-23.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:56] whats the command to convert *.flv files to *.mpg or *.avi? [17:56] ffmpeg [17:57] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [17:57] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ffmpeg+convert+flv+to+avi [17:57] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:57] Action: The-Croupier missed you guys...and waves to the channel [17:58] ever since I got noscript lmgtfy has become so much less useful :P [17:58] also, hi The-Croupier :D [17:58] gundam (n=gundam@slackware.it/staff/gundam) joined ##slackware. [18:01] othermindszine (n=othermin@207.224.113.38) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:04] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [18:06] bijit (i=chatzill@200.122.188.156) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:07] othermindszine (n=othermin@112.sub-70-192-94.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [18:07] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.168.180) left irc: "leaving" [18:07] noscript is a must for internet browsing these days [18:09] nullboy: Why? [18:10] (I know it sound slike an asinine question, but I'm serious) [18:10] I actually don't use noscript (though I do use adblock+) [18:11] i run both noscript and adblock, i use noscript because I want to decide who gets to run javascript in my browser [18:11] i am the decider, not some flakey web designer [18:13] dngr (n=dngr@pcd340233.netvigator.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:14] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:18] Lapmann (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:21] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:21] so that means you use ff [18:21] opera or ff? [18:22] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:23] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:24] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [18:24] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:25] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [18:26] SlackLnx (n=Lee@85.139.11.35) left irc: "I'll Be Back" [18:27] yup, i use firefox with noscript & adblock plus and no plugins for most my general purpose web browsing, i have seamonkey with lots of plugins but i use it rarely and only at trusted websites [18:27] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [18:31] kleanchap_ (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:31] tribeca (n=naitso@host230-29-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:32] anyone know of a good calculator for xfce? preferably something better looking than xcalc [18:32] i had to use kcalc [18:33] DeeeP: does that require a lot from k to run? [18:33] hmm [18:33] i think the USA is going to declair war on mexico's drug lords soon [18:33] need to load some QT libs [18:34] DeeeP: okies :) [18:34] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [18:35] TheBig (n=TheBig@151.16.179.92) joined ##slackware. [18:35] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.159.37) joined ##slackware. [18:40] ah, galculator seems better for xfce.... [18:41] Pig_Pen: we haven't yet? hmm odd [18:41] dngr (n=dngr@pcd340128.netvigator.com) joined ##slackware. [18:42] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:42] what?? there is an x, such that US has not declared war on x? [18:43] antler: ok you just confused the hell out of me [18:44] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:44] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.49.80) joined ##slackware. [18:44] the mexican drug gangs are causing trouble for a few border towns in the usa, phoenix, el paso, if i lived next to mexico i would be armed to the teeth and would shoot to kill without hesitation if any mexicans tresspassed on to my property looking to steal or cause property damage [18:44] kitche: hahaha [18:45] phoenix is a few miles from the border it's the 2nd most kidnapping city in the world [18:45] Nick change: juice_ -> juice [18:45] UB001 (n=Tiberius@41-208-48-160.mtn.co.za) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:46] Pig_Pen: Thats fine as long as your not a border guard. If you are then you go to jail. [18:46] and the lame ass federal government has not done anything to stop it, the governer of arizona should have the national guard hunting for illegals 24-7 [18:46] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:47] the governer of arizona should lock down the highways with road side checks [18:48] think on the news they been having emerency sessions in arizona to tell the state congress just how bad it's getting [18:50] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) left ##slackware (".. Jesus paid it all, all to Him I owe..."). [18:51] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.211) left irc: [18:51] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [18:52] heliocopter gunships patroling the border & off-road trails [18:55] TheBig (n=TheBig@151.16.179.92) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:58] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:00] hi gang :-) [19:00] GArik (n=wesnoth@80.246.88.171) left irc: "Leaving" [19:00] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:02] hi macavity [19:02] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [19:03] edman007, ! [19:04] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "Leaving" [19:05] hi nix_chix0r [19:05] this baby doesn't want to wait 3more weeks to come out :| [19:06] kicking and moving about? does the baby seem restless? [19:06] nix_chix0r: poop it out then [19:06] no i'm havin contractions 5minutes apart [19:06] poop it! [19:06] she said to call when they are 3min apart [19:07] babies come out of the bum [19:07] wow only 3 more weeks. "my prediction? pain." (clubber lang, rocky iii) [19:07] yowza! you better have a ride to the hospital ready on hand [19:07] mine will [19:07] nix_chix0r: good luck =] [19:07] ima poop him out [19:07] i'll bring my laptop:P [19:07] when you go in to labor that laptop will be the last thing on your mind [19:07] i wana see the home movie of it. [19:08] hahaha [19:08] acidchild: you're a sick bastard :P [19:08] LOL [19:08] do you know if it'll be a boy or girl? [19:08] a boy:D [19:08] a boy durh, its mr hanky [19:08] and he has a huge weiner [19:08] hehe [19:08] antler: see? she's a sick fuck too [19:09] dude acidchild i got another ultrasound today to check up on him , and she prints out a pic of his balls [19:09] no, she's indicating that she had sex with a big jamaican guy [19:09] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-156-38-113.range86-156.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:10] she likes a good raggin' [19:10] ;) who doesn't [19:10] lol :P [19:10] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: "leaving" [19:10] nix_chix0r: got a name for the baby yet? [19:11] yeah oliver, and i was debating if we're installing slack on him or if it's too soon [19:11] arlington williams baker [19:11] gundam (n=gundam@slackware.it/staff/gundam) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:12] nix_chix0r: install NetBSD and ruin his social life [19:12] =] [19:12] sorry thats FreeBSD [19:12] haa [19:12] heh or gentoo [19:12] hey i like freebsd and gentoo, [19:12] Netbsd would make him a logical man [19:12] either way , who needs to be social if you have a huge dongle [19:12] OpenBSD is for the anti-social, just look what it did to Theo DeRatt [19:12] nix_chix0r: everybody? [19:14] Pig_Pen: who would win in a bar room brawl? theo or that stallman guy? [19:15] probably theo, stallman's long hair and beard can be used against him in a brawl [19:16] Action: pupit nix_chix0r, mother. :) [19:18] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [19:18] kleanchap_ (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [19:18] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:20] Theo isn't anti-social, just opionated, like msot people [19:20] Action: nachox looks at acidchild and wonders when he became a netbsd man [19:21] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: "leaving" [19:22] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [19:23] i hear theo cusses like a drunken sailor [19:25] AuRoRaa_ (i=eGoiST@41.236.14.8) joined ##slackware. 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[19:34] sure ha [19:36] Action: acidchild pokes nix_chix0r [19:36] squeeze and poop [19:36] hahahha [19:41] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@166.196.146.155) joined ##slackware. [19:44] rworkman, wanted to thank ya for your input last night. i'm still dead in the water but what the hell, tonight's another night [19:45] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:46] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [19:46] is there some rule you have to manually run "make depend" on -rc/git kernels? [19:48] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:48] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:48] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:48] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [19:49] whats the matter jiffypoop? [19:49] oops [19:49] i mean jiffypop [19:50] too many people talking about pooping [19:51] whats worse in html, blinking or marquee? [19:52] good question [19:52] both combined [19:52] blink [19:52] but masquee is pretty gross [19:52] blinking is worse! marquee is tolerable [19:53] Action: Camarade_Tux has again forgotten how to install a tex template [19:53] xdan779 (n=daniel@64-233-207-75.static.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [19:53] Action: Camarade_Tux will first install latex [19:54] latex foo.tex [19:55] dvi2pdf foo.dvi [19:55] Pig_Pen: i'm trying to make my wireless AT&T card work [19:55] been at it for a loooong time [19:55] deja foo [19:56] I got one from ctan, it has eps, pdf, cls and tex files, can I just copy it to /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex ? [19:56] but i'm new, unlearned, confused, bummed out...mad as hell, lol [19:56] ah, wifi is t3h shizzts [19:56] but i'm close...i can smell it [19:57] not only do you need the kernel module you most likely also need firmware, and the correct info in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf & wireless.conf [19:57] let me rephrase that. i can smell something :-/ [19:57] or... ... are you using ndiswrapper [19:57] i've got the firmware [19:58] no ndiswrapper [19:58] i don't think ndswrapper pertains to this card [19:58] firmware & kernel module? then all thats left is /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf & /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless.conf [19:59] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:59] it's a pcmcia card and i've read at least a couple hundred posts and none mentioned ndiswrapper [19:59] one thing about encryption protocols, wpa_supplicant sucks when it comes to support of most cards, i can only use WEP because wpa_suppicant does not support wpa or wpa2 with my wifi card [20:00] i dont even have wpa_supplicant installed anymore because it was an excersize in futility, i just use wep [20:01] i did disable essid broadcast and used the mac address whitelist filter in my wifi router because of the poor encryption that WEP offers [20:01] This is a very rare fellow user base question here, but does anyone have an old laptop, that has a 16bit only yenta slot, and a 16bit pcmcia network card(s) and have it working on Slack 12.2? [20:02] here's what's sad. i'm a total linux noob but i've managed to make my linksys wireless usb work (with ndiswrapper) but for the life of me, this sierra card ain't happenin' [20:02] Ro8inB (i=0@c83-248-8-198.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:02] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [20:03] welcome to Linux jiffypop, i was once a noob too, but i did not give up no matter how frustrating it got i was determined to make Linux work for me because i was tired of the racket ms-windows is [20:04] no giving up here...believe that [20:05] two things, DO NOT give up, and get a pencil & paper and take notes, http://linuxquestions.org/ is also a good place for help & info when IRC does not help [20:05] just worried that i don't really know how to explain what's wrong or what i've done without turning possible help away. [20:06] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.168.180) joined ##slackware. [20:06] and yea, i'm registered at linuxquestions and have read it to death concerning this card [20:06] naw, you have the right attitude, some of that stuff is still a tough nut to crack even after using Linux for 10 years [20:06] Action: BP{k} is still a noob. [20:06] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:07] not only linuxquestions.org but a slew of other places as well [20:07] i found Linuxquestions a good website, i been a member since 2001 [20:08] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:08] did you check the hcl (hardware compatability list) [20:08] http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/ [20:09] no, sadly i haven't, but i have read many many posts where people have gotten it to work not only with slack but other distros as well [20:09] our own rworkman seems to have made it happen also [20:09] if it works with one distro it should for all distros [20:10] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] rworkman usually makes an appearance in here at least once every evening [20:11] but as i'm sure you know (and i'm quickly finding out) there's at least 50 different folks with 50 different ways they made it work :-/ [20:11] it took me a couple of days to iron out the wrinkles in wifi when i first got a wifi card & router [20:11] yea, met him last night. seemed a rather decent sort [20:11] rworkman is a good man [20:12] see, the thing is: from what i can tell, i've got everything i need but it seems there's an I that needs dotted or a T that needs crossed. just not sure where it might be [20:13] yet [20:13] couple things i don't understand [20:13] AuRoRaa_ (i=eGoiST@41.236.14.8) left irc: No route to host [20:13] it doesn't show up in lspci [20:13] nor lsusb [20:13] does show up in lspcmcia [20:14] thats what i think, i bet it is possible just a config problem with either (or both) /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf & /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless.conf [20:14] shows up in dmesg [20:14] the kernel sees it no doubt about that [20:15] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:15] when i dmesg | grep tty i get this: 1.0: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A [20:15] what about wicd? did you try that? [20:15] never heard of it :-( [20:16] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] haven't ran acrossthat option [20:16] wicd is a configuration frontend thingy, i dont use it so i am no expert with it [20:16] Does anyone know how to view postscript files? [20:16] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:16] a lot of this i'm learning (for a lack of a better term) on the fly [20:16] KDE's ghostview [20:17] or stallman;s ugly gv [20:17] same here jiffypop, i fly by the seat of my pants [20:17] dmesg gives me this: pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia1.0 [20:18] hehe [20:18] and this : firmware: requesting SW_7xx_SER.cis [20:18] is it lame to get a barcode of your gpg key identifyer as a tattoo? [20:18] just use what pilots call "dead reconing" [20:18] incase i end up dead as identification? [20:18] =P [20:18] and lastly this: 1.0: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A [20:18] what about when you change your gpg key> [20:18] i've though of that :/ [20:18] how offten does that happen? :/ [20:19] so, with my limited understanding, i should be most of the way there [20:19] surely there will always be 'history'? [20:19] just get a cute little Linux penguin (Tux) tattooed on your forearm or on your neck just below your right ear [20:19] hell no :/ [20:19] that looks so ghey [20:19] lmao! why not [20:20] i don't do the 'puff' look very well [20:20] if it was under your left ear then it would be ghey [20:20] Pig_Pen: i have a gnu on my left bud cheek ;-) [20:20] haha [20:20] !@#$%^&*()_ Bell [20:20] cool! [20:20] Pig_Pen: doesn't serve my purpous though [20:20] i have a jinx logo on the back of my neck [20:20] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] ;x [20:21] i have a skull & crossbones on my right shoulder [20:21] thinking of covering it up with something larger. [20:21] Pig_Pen: with the text "Bite me fanboy!" under it :P [20:22] just think once when i was browsing through digg.com i seen where someone got a damn ubuntu logo tattooed on their upper arm [20:22] there is worse [20:23] >_< [20:23] i know! a damn ubuntu logo! (there is worse) [20:23] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [20:23] yes.. and Apple :P [20:23] *an [20:23] a Linux Tux is not bad because it does not advocate any particular distro [20:23] How can I extract the audio stream out of an mp4 video? I don't want to transcode the track, just extract it. [20:23] i don't think a bar code would work well after a few years tattooed [20:24] can they do scarification thats neat enough with laserS? [20:24] fine lines would get blurry after a few years [20:24] i think a key identification is best... [20:25] just get your CPR number tattoed in

:P [20:25] CPR? [20:25] once when i was in jail there was some loser with tattoos on is face, he had 666 on his forehead, and some other really ugly homemade tattoos [20:25] Central Personel Registration? [20:25] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:25] Pig_Pen: yeah i know someone. with there name on their forhead [20:26] you unique citizen nuber? [20:26] lol [20:26] macavity: then surely i have a few? [20:26] i have a few citizenships [20:26] O_O [20:26] few passports too [20:26] gawd, of all places on your body to get tattoos that has to be the worst, just think what hunting for a job or girl friend would be like with some shit tattoo on your forehead would be like [20:27] Pig_Pen: go go gadget bangs =P [20:27] ok.. dont come to Denmark.. they are going to lock you up untill they figure out which one they think is "current"... and ram down your throat that you can ever only use that passport/id-tag or get charged with document forgery :P [20:28] our computers do not deal with multi-citizenships :P [20:28] the internet is international, remember what that WWW stands for [20:28] Wery Wongky Wotocol... [20:28] macavity: :) [20:28] Western World Web. [20:29] macavity: South african, Canadian and British passwords =] [20:29] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:29] root (n=root@cca75.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:29] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:29] acidchild: so, you are elligeble for social benefits x3? :P [20:29] Nick change: root -> Guest76483 [20:29] Guest76483: you should not use IRC as root [20:30] othermindszine (n=othermin@112.sub-70-192-94.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:30] im not as root [20:30] just windows user, named 'root' [20:30] macavity: i wana go for a greencard in the US too [20:30] Guest76483 (n=root@cca75.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Client Quit [20:30] macavity: i don't wana be restricted because some faggot feds wana remove a passport from me [20:31] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cca75.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:31] alisonken1 (n=alisonke@38.99.247.89) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/" [20:31] Gargantua: ok, that's about the lamest account name on a windows box i've seen so far ;-D [20:31] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [20:31] "there is no root" :P [20:31] huhlolwut [20:32] the land where Admin gets "access denied" by the explorer shell all the time :P [20:32] my win7 is named "darkstar" ;p [20:32] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cca75.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Client Quit [20:32] I have a little regedit script that gives me absolute permission to everything [20:32] Camarade_Tux: blasphemer! :P [20:32] even server files [20:32] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cca75.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [20:32] I have it set on the right-click menu in explorer [20:33] huh? are you running your regular account with localsys rights? [20:33] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] macavity, it helps it not suck :D [20:35] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-326388.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:35] berke (n=will@76.4.244.139) joined ##slackware. [20:35] hi all, im using slackware 12.2, can anyone point me to a reliable documentation on how to upgrade to kde 4.*? [20:36] ive searched google, but nothing useful comes up [20:36] the readme file in the folder with the binarys? [20:36] ^^ [20:36] the binaries in testing? [20:36] i wasnt sure if I should compile new or just install biinaries [20:36] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cca75.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Client Quit [20:37] Testing in -current, yes. [20:37] The binaries are 4.2, so unless there's something fancy in svn you're wanting to play with... [20:38] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:38] im not seeing a readme in this folder [20:38] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.227.29) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:39] any of you lazy fecks order dominos online? [20:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIBmGZxAhg heres a classic! [20:39] danillo (i=slack@201-69-144-242.dial-up.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:39] http://packages.slackware.it/browse.php?q=current/testing [20:39] no readme in that folder [20:40] berke: ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/slackware-current/testing/packages/kde4 [20:40] see the file named README [20:40] naw, i dont order pizza from resturant chains, i order from a mom & pop pizza place [20:41] Pig_Pen, well if you are ever in a silly mood and want to order dominos online you can do it via command line > http://www.beigerecords.com/cory/Things_I_Made/PizzaParty [20:41] made in perl [20:41] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-78.dial.telus.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:41] tuvok302-a (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-64.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:41] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [20:43] nix_chix0r: try it :-P [20:43] acidchild, i want to but they don't allowe me to order they dont even deliver out to me [20:43] i'd have to pick up which defeeats the purpose [20:44] very true [20:45] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [20:47] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.168.180) left irc: "bbl" [20:48] Bell needs to fix their fscking web site [20:48] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:48] Nick change: Strykar_ -> Strykar [20:49] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Client Quit [20:49] Nick change: ifaff -> faffi [20:50] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [20:50] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [20:51] Can someone help me with a simple wget line? [20:51] "wget -c " ;) [20:51] I want to know, via the commandline, if an ip/dns location is trying to set a cookie. [20:51] wget http://www.google.com [20:52] nix_chix0r: the source to this script is horrible. [20:52] :/ [20:52] awkward transation though [20:52] use the source luke [20:52] not my fault haha [20:53] of course it is, and ofcourse i was suggesting it was [20:53] Come on, help me out :P [20:53] Action: acidchild blows rasberrys at nix_chix0r [20:54] Gargantua: here's a hint: man wget; type "/cookie" and hit enter... [20:54] mth- (i=1000@190-95-103-29.bk22-dsl.surnet.cl) joined ##slackware. [20:55] Not on linux atm [20:55] atm = at this moment ? [20:55] you havent described the scenario very well, so i dont know exactly what you want to do, so i cant help you? [20:56] mth-: or "the moment" depending on the situation [20:56] Gargantua: wget --save-cookies cookies.txt google.com [20:56] mth-, yeah. [20:56] cool [20:56] :D [20:56] BP{k}, thanks. [20:57] Gargantua: amazing what you can actually find on google. :P [20:57] Gargantua: in case it has something to do with being logged in, you may also want to experiemtn with --load-cookies [20:59] berke (n=will@76.4.244.139) left ##slackware. [20:59] last post is really good : "Review: Slackware 12.2" http://server.ericsbinaryworld.com/blog/2009/02/21/review-slackware-122/comment-page-1/#comment-69609 [20:59] kleanchap_ (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:01] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cca75.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [21:01] Meckafett (i=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:01] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:01] Meckafett (i=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) joined ##slackware. [21:02] Old_Fogie: i'd call that a regular slam dunk :P [21:03] Action: Old_Fogie says in an Elvis voice "thank ye very muuhhch" [21:03] anyone know any good 3d modeling programs for linux [21:03] and dont' say blender [21:03] lionping (n=itsme@131.130.30.233) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:03] lionping (n=itsme@cm.mpi.univie.ac.at) joined ##slackware. [21:04] acidchild, tried the one in kde at all? [21:04] whats it calleD? [21:05] kpovmodeler [21:05] may have what ya need, I dunno [21:05] part of koffice acidchild [21:05] it doesnt seem to like 16bit color tho [21:05] used by video driver of your pc. [21:06] kevin__ (n=kevin@fluffy.curranfamilynet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:06] It actually has some pretty good tools in it, we've used it at our company before for some work on presentations. Has pretty good import/export too. [21:07] god damn m****f***ers [21:08] Old_Fogie: lol whats the location or package that is/comes in? [21:08] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:08] night guys, i'm off to sleep [21:08] [ in bed ] [21:09] acidchild, kde office package [21:09] err no [21:09] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [21:09] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.49.80) left irc: "Leaving" [21:09] taub_ (n=taub@ip-77-24-188-136.web.vodafone.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:09] kdegraphics [21:09] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-162-72.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:09] acidchild, ^^ [21:10] where is the binary? i can't even see kpovmodeler in the /var/log/package/file.. [21:11] usr/bin/kpovmodeler kdegraphics-3.5.10-i486 [21:16] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:17] woohoo! the entire git kernel/proto/libs/xorg/mesa/intel stack builds.. with only one little short circuit hack :P [21:18] berke (n=will@76.4.244.139) joined ##slackware. [21:18] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] is shader support in yet? :| [21:18] in which department? [21:18] its in the gallium softpipe :P [21:19] and, what kind of shader support? [21:19] vertex or pixel shader language? version 1, 2 or 3? [21:19] hi all Im in the process of upgrading to kde4 and Im following the readme but theres something I dont understand, it says from inside the From the /testing/packages/kde4/ directory use upgradepkg, I dont know what it means, I thought /testing/packages/kde4/ directory was remote? [21:19] and what chip? [21:19] all of'em. just recall hearing that they were working on shaders for intel cards. [21:20] and a lot of that work was also going to be the basis for the shader support on the ati ones. [21:20] never kept up with the news to see what happened with it though. [21:20] berke: just download the entire directory then [21:21] somehow that doesnt seem practical [21:21] "finished" would be when they've implemented all the stuff that the proprietary drivers support i guess. [21:21] berke: welcome to the -current world.. [21:21] are you serious? [21:21] berke: of course it's practical :) just download the directory [21:21] yes [21:21] one file at a time? [21:21] or at least deps/ and kde/ [21:21] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@cca75.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [21:21] hey guys :D [21:21] no, rsync [21:21] someone can build xorg 7.4? [21:21] ive never used rsync [21:21] :D [21:22] berke: it's pretty obvious stuff. [21:22] berke: open up konqueror and use copy/paste on the dir? [21:22] source destination [21:22] not really much to it.. [21:22] there's a few options you might want to know, like -av [21:22] rsync -vaz --progress rsync://mirror/path/to/testing/packages/kde4/ . [21:22] well i just ran the remove kde3 script, so I dont think I have konq anymore [21:23] LOL [21:23] you started doing the work before having read over the entire document? [21:23] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [21:23] honestly i thought i might be able to use slackpkg to install [21:23] ok, you have a thing or two to learn about technical documentation yet :P [21:23] you can use -P instead of --progress .. -P gives you both --progress and --partial (so if a file is partially downloaded, it can be resumed) [21:23] rings of removing your kernel before installing anew [21:24] Old_Fogie: that's not possible, is it? :) [21:24] thrice`, actually yea you can do it, I do it here alot. but I've seen others remove, then reboot,now that is fail :) [21:24] berke: -current is the development branch.. hence it requires knowledge.. when it is ready for general mass consumption it will be packaged up neatly for "cassual users" to enjoy [21:24] macavity: maybe more used to winderz 'documentation' [21:24] hehe [21:25] which is basically like "press a bunch of buttons until it does something interesting" [21:25] berke: surely you have firefox still? [21:25] you can use wget -r you know [21:25] Azalyn: anyhow, ill tell you in a minute is there is any improvement to the pixes/vertex shader work on GMA950 shortly.. about to test it out [21:25] thrice`, when you only have a 2 gig drive, you start delving into 'no no areas' like that :) [21:26] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: "...Lets see if we can NOT hard lockup my machine this time.. ok?" [21:26] that's horrible.. i feel like donating a hard drive now. [21:26] :| [21:26] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-165-213.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [21:26] Old_Fogie: 2 gigs is plenty ;) [21:26] Azalyn, :D nah it's ok, it's an *old* laptop. but 12.2 is hating this here. [21:27] bbiab [21:27] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [21:27] thrice`, you happen to know if 16 bit pcmcia and 16 bit cars is yanked out of slack 12.2 [21:27] ? [21:27] s/cars/cards [21:27] man, you could get a laptopIDE-to-compactflash adapter and get an 8G cf card. [21:27] hehe [21:27] you can get cards like that really cheap nowadays [21:27] alright how would I rsync the directory from ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/slackware-current/testing/packages/kde4? [21:27] DIY solid-state disk! [21:28] this laptop of mine has been zip slack , slack 12.1 for 3 years, all same hardware, the 16bit network card too. 12.2 just wont work with it. [21:28] Old_Fogie: no clue; I have nothing with pcmia on my lappy [21:28] all those macbook air fanbois will envy you. [21:28] I ran ethtool eth0 , and it's beeing seen. Just no work. All the lights are being shown on the dongle too [21:29] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: "You can't fire me....." [21:29] ifconfig only get's me lo, and it won't ifconfig eth0 up at all. [21:29] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:29] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [21:29] won't see my 16 bit wifi card either completely [21:29] ok.. hard lockup *again* [21:29] macavity, ouch [21:30] how many packages did you install though? that you're worried about filling up the drive by compiling another kernel? [21:30] Azalyn, a, ap, l, n (no appache packages), x [21:30] i get a magenta colored stripe down the monitor and xorg is dead [21:30] so no e, f, k, tcl, tk, xap or y [21:30] that is, as soon as i touch the keyboard or mouse [21:31] and no 'd' [21:31] macavity: updated your xorg.conf ? [21:31] maybe it would help to leave the X out until you get the kernel working right. [21:31] Azalyn, I'm running the huge.s kernel, as this pc won't boot with a smp kernel. [21:32] macavity: magenta screen of death [21:32] at least we can say linux is FABULOUS when it comes to it's screens of death. [21:33] so, after install, I just cd /mnt ; chroot . ; cd boot ; ln -s vmlinuz-huge-2.6.24.5 vmlinuz2 ; vi /etc/lilo.conf ; add the 2 after the vmlinuz ; lilo ; exit ; reboot. all the modules in (a) are installed. not sure what's going on here. never seen this. [21:33] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:33] macavity: use hotpluggy xorg :) [21:33] Action: Old_Fogie goes to find his old slax cd, maybe something died here [21:36] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [21:36] Azalyn, I even plugged in a usb ver 1.0 network card, that does work. so the networking subsystem works. I'd use that nic, but it's a linksys usb nic, and the wire always falls out on the darn thing (the eth wire out of the angled spot on the nic where the wire plugs into -what a crappy design) [21:40] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [21:40] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.168.180) joined ##slackware. [21:40] thrice`: re, update xorg.conf? [21:41] yes, 1.4.x xorg.conf will not play well with 1.5.x xorg.conf [21:41] oh, yes [21:41] ah, ok [21:42] btw, im on xorg 1.6 :P [21:42] pattwo (n=admin@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [21:42] it loads? [21:42] no such thing actually xorg 1.6 fixes issues that 1.5 is having right now I notice [21:42] yes [21:42] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-165-213.epm.net.co) left irc: "leaving" [21:43] since they released 1.5 with stuff that is in 1.6 .... [21:43] im downloading it with ftp, so is anyone else running kde4? Ive been running xfce, and like that best, but I want to try the new amarok [21:43] ah, fuck.. ive found the culprits [21:43] (EE) XKB: Couldn't open rules file /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev [21:43] XKB: Failed to compile keymap [21:43] (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: (null) ((null)) [21:44] the later one is odd.. i explicitly --disable-hal in the build... [21:45] bit hard to disable-hal now I m not even sure if that switch even works still or not really [21:46] the problem is that ive never gotten hal to play nicely with this machine [21:46] it keeps doing periodic lockups of my cdrom drive.. and resetting the entire chain [21:47] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:48] danillo (i=slack@201-69-144-242.dial-up.telesp.net.br) left irc: [21:48] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:49] wow ..... Obama just said he made education more affordable .... [21:49] agentc0re1 (n=agentc0r@c-24-10-209-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@c-98-202-50-242.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:50] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:50] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [21:51] this is what i get every frew minutes when running hald: http://pastebin.ca/1346467 [21:51] kitche, ah thanks for reminder, I forgot to watch it [21:52] kitche, oh it's yet another hand clap all night long brigade :) [21:52] obseve that i am using libata on a pata link.. so when it resets the entire link, it also resets the one disk that holds / [21:52] :-/ [21:55] MrHales (n=user@12.166.25.119) joined ##slackware. [21:56] U-Neeks (n=666@200-96-137-138.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:57] Good evening, or whatever your personal temporal displacement might be. [21:57] Old_Fogie: hehe Obama can't say pakistan correctly [21:58] hi guys, any idea how would i change the path inside a .tgz file? let say I have eclipse.tgz and i don't want it to go to /usr and /opt but I want them to be in path /home/myname/application/ directory, is that possible? [21:58] Action: Old_Fogie has his boots on kitche :) [21:58] man quake-live site is packed will take a long time to get to the game [21:59] kitche: isn't it a 'windows only' game for now? [21:59] macavity: that only happens when running hald? [21:59] toytoy: a proper slackware tgz file has ./ as the beginning of each file, so you can just " cd ; tar -zxvf /eclipse.tgz" [21:59] rworkman: yup [22:00] How long has that been going on? [22:00] rworkman: since hald was introduced.... [22:00] im still on 12.1 though [22:00] Ewww. I seem to recall you mentioning that now :/ [22:00] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:00] mannynix: maybe I do not know since it's browser based [22:00] toytoy: doing the manual way will not have it in the package manager setup, plus there may be some other dependencies that the package relies on that you'll have to work out yourself [22:00] Have you reported that on the hald mail list? [22:00] kernel upgrades doesnt help either.. [22:00] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:01] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] na, i never got around to it :P [22:01] You should. [22:01] but now i apparently need hald :-/ [22:01] or my xorg project is dead [22:01] kitche: Thanks [22:01] alisonken1home: so that would be a lot of task to do? I was entering the install directory and modify the doinst.sh but it doesn't work that way [22:01] Forgive my blatant ignorance, but would you be the rworkman whose slackbuilds I have been finding so useful? [22:02] MrHales: probably. [22:02] no, a clone [22:02] If some claiming to be rworkman was rude to you at some point though, that wasn't me. [22:02] rworkman: roger.. ill just have a go at trying to use "AHCI" instead of "IDE" in the BIOS.. i just discovered that recently [22:02] A pleasure, then, to make your acquaintance. Many thanks, and no, no rudeness. :-) [22:03] macavity: yeah, give it a shot. [22:03] MrHales: Glad you found them useful. As for rude, well... hang around ;-) [22:03] rude is our hallmark :P [22:03] macavity: close your piehole. [22:03] nah, informative* :> [22:03] er, oops. :) [22:04] i know.. it slips from time to time.. wanker [22:04] hehe [22:04] toytoy: you have to repackage the tgz file if you make changes to the doinst.sh script - hold on and I'll give you another possibility [22:04] make CONFIG_DEBUG_SECTION_MISMATCH=y <- that is NOT just a little quick test run :-/ [22:04] Picked up one of these little toys (Eee PC) the other day. I love the little thing, so far. [22:04] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:04] Anyone have any Slackeee experience? [22:05] exactly what version is it? [22:05] if its the one with the GMA500 instead of GMA950 i have two words for you: "good luck" [22:05] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.168.180) left irc: "later" [22:06] toytoy: if you want to play with it , you can always try "installpkg -root / " - if you want it to run from there as a user, though, you have to recompile the sources used for the programs in the package [22:07] Macavity: Are you speaking to me? [22:07] MrHales: yes [22:08] MrHales: search phoronix.com for GMA500 and see what i mean [22:08] Oh, sorry! It was the cheapo from Worst Buy [22:08] 900a [22:08] ah, good [22:09] is anyone else having problems with the libnl website? [22:09] hi, maybe OT but, anyone has configured emacs to sign emails and can show me howto write my .el? [22:09] i haven't been able to access it for a week now [22:09] http://people.suug.ch/~tgr/libnl/ [22:09] MrHales: then it has the GMA950 [22:10] Well, good? [22:10] nullboy: considering it's china I don't doubt it really [22:10] damn [22:11] MrHales: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eeepc#Specifications [22:11] kitche, now it's time for the after speech "specialists" to tellyou what you heard :) [22:11] MrHales: yes, GMA950 is fairly well supported [22:11] pattwo (n=admin@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [22:11] MrHales: just dont count on getting good performance with compiz on it with 12.2 [22:11] MrHales: all the goodies appears to have to wait for 13.0 :P [22:11] Oh, yeah, just noticed it used the standard (as "standard" as anything goes) driver for mobile intel [22:12] standard? [22:12] vesa? [22:12] I don't intend this teeny thing to be a powerhouse [22:12] change that to "intel" instead [22:13] Just an easy to tote mobile workstation that resists rough treatment [22:13] I have a tendency towards torture-testing [22:13] i'm pretty rough on my laptop too [22:13] berke (n=will@76.4.244.139) left ##slackware. [22:14] Well, the intellinux driver, same bundle that covers the gm45 in my buddy's Vaio [22:14] Hey, speaking of which... what's the deal between sonypi and sony-laptop and if the latter is preferable, why is the former still loading? [22:15] dmesg seems to indicate that is exactly what is taking place. [22:16] which kernel are you using? [22:16] is it the huge or did you create a custom one for the eee? [22:16] stock 12.2: 2.6.27.7-smp [22:17] Oh, talking two seperate boxes here.. [22:17] oh dan. [22:17] m [22:18] The sony issue is with my buddy's Vaio (which I had no idea was going to be such a lovely lady to have to work with) [22:18] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:19] and I'm pondering slackeee for my lil puter [22:19] in the future [22:19] nullboy: yes, it's down. You need the source? [22:20] nullboy: http://slackware.com/~rworkman/libnl-1.1.tar.bz2 [22:20] rworkman: nah, I still have a copy of 1.1 but I was just curious about the site. I don't think I've ever actually seen the site...just downloaded the sources from links in the past [22:20] How can i check the stats on my ram without opening things up? [22:20] Oh, okay. [22:20] hiptobecubic: probably can't [22:20] try dmidecode [22:21] dmidecode should [22:21] rworkman, rats. So i can't see what clock speed it's at or anything? [22:21] ok [22:21] oh, no; dmidecode will just read the maximum, not what it's doing [22:22] /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER MrHales meevnkjxcdhm [22:22] Anything that can be done will probably be with dmidecode. (somehow that didn't even cross my mind, so thanks, guys) :) [22:22] haha [22:22] MrHales: oops :) [22:22] PASSWORD FRENZY! [22:22] hahahah! [22:22] MrHales, oh snap [22:22] ooooops [22:22] you should use some numbers and cases in there! [22:22] MrHales: could be worse. At least it wasn't the passphrase to your gpg key. :) [22:22] MrHales: gaurantee everyone in here has done that. [22:22] lol [22:22] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:22] including Mr. rworkman [22:22] :) [22:22] :D [22:23] I think I have the noobfarm of it somewhere.... [22:23] ;) [22:23] Yep, it's there. [22:23] heh [22:24] Action: mbhayes senses that everyone is now searching for that quote... [22:24] hiptobecubic: you can get the part number of the sticks [22:25] http://noobfarm.org/?id=1403 [22:25] what is the "key" that nickserv wants to change my pass? [22:26] dmidecode has the info, if anyone was wondering [22:26] rworkman: found a new classic from you: http://noobfarm.org/?id=190 [22:26] dmidecode shouldn't be reading the current speed, though, but what it can accept [22:26] sudo dmidecode -t memory | grep 'Part Number' [22:26] yeah mine shows max speed [22:28] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10603 [22:29] 03:28 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- To set a new password if you know the current [22:29] MrHales: ^ [22:29] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:29] 03:28 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- password, use SET PASSWORD instead of SETPASS. [22:29] mbhayes: yeah, I've got a few good ones in the early stuff there. [22:29] You need a search feature. [22:29] Thanks, just got it. Was having just the loveliest converversation with ol' Nick [22:29] hehe [22:29] is single bank memory preffered over double bank? [22:30] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:30] rworkman: ummm.. noobfarm has a search feature [22:30] Part Number: Not Specified [22:30] :D [22:30] okay [22:31] nooper: NO [22:31] mbhayes: hrm. [22:31] http://noobfarm.org/?id=813 [22:31] So, on with a series of annoying questions tantamount to handholding with a lot of whining involved: [22:31] nooper: you want all your memory channels in action [22:31] rworkman: its kind of obvious... it says "Search" in it [22:31] I hate Sony Vaio's and I need help! [22:31] ah [22:31] Action: MrHales bawls. [22:32] pireau (i=chaos@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [22:32] nooper: the kernel actively attempts to distribute memory usage across all banks [22:32] rworkman: what it needs is proper pagination.. [22:32] rworkman: and which I have no motivation for right now [22:32] nooper: and graphics drivers have special magic to do the same [22:32] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [22:32] i see [22:33] mbhayes: well, in my defense, the search box isn't visible when you go to a link like we're posting here [22:33] nooper: in theory, if the kernel did a perfect job of distributing data across all banks, dual channel mode would not do a damn thing [22:33] http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1128 <-- one of my favorites [22:34] nooper: however, *especially* if you have a laptop with a graphics chip the uses shared memory, you want all memory slots filled [22:34] rworkman: blah blah blah.. added to my I-Probably-forget-about-it-until-someone-reminds-me-TODO list [22:34] http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=1072 <-- and then this guy, wow. [22:34] HAHA, just found this one of rworkman. http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=40 PLUS /whois topdawg = Currently on: #ubuntu, explains a lot. :D [22:34] lol [22:34] Okay, I gave up on KDE 4.2 and all the problems it gave me, fine, I can deal with that defeat all mature-like (*cries for three days*) but the Fn keys have me *very* frustrated and I'm pretty sure the wireless card is unknown and unseen by the system [22:35] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Client Quit [22:35] Yeah, I think topdawg was an annoying one. [22:35] MrHales: still the eeepc? [22:35] No, Vaio NS [22:35] ah [22:35] broadcom wifi? [22:35] http://noobfarm.org/?id=1366 [22:35] .... good question... [22:35] lemme check, brb [22:35] MrHales: lspci -k [22:36] MrHales: that shows you if any driver has grapped the device [22:36] http://noobfarm.org/?id=1329 [22:37] yah know... [22:37] I Just got another "feature" idea for noobfarm... [22:37] he he [22:37] xThere it is... lspci reports it as Atheros Communications AR928 [22:37] ath9k has it [22:38] HAHA - I LOVE this one: http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=627 [22:38] rworkman: haha yeah [22:38] http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=35 [22:38] rworkman: lot of people wantd me to remove it [22:38] what do those appear as in /dev? [22:39] MrHales: in that case you should be golden :P [22:39] uhm, network devices does not show up in /dev :P [22:39] mbhayes: remove 627? WHAT? [22:39] *do [22:39] Really? [22:39] Screw them. [22:39] the "wlan0" name is actually a module alias [22:40] but.. thats another story [22:40] rworkman: my idea is (and dont hit the url its not there) madlibs.noobfarm.org [22:40] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [22:40] hehe [22:40] rworkman: imagine the "fun" that could come out of that [22:40] Been a long while since I [22:41] oops, had to worry about networking [22:41] Had no Net at home in ages [22:41] Arirang: hmm ok then that's odd that Congress just called it state of union address [22:41] Last time was dial up and that appeared on a serial port [22:41] IntangibleLiquid (n=anhhung@115.73.38.192) joined ##slackware. [22:41] bah [22:41] http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=445 <-- yay me :D [22:42] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.167) joined ##slackware. [22:42] rworkman, can we noobfarm Presidential speech excerpts :D [22:42] Action: Old_Fogie hides [22:43] I've installed the Broadcom STA driver into the system, iwconfig and iwlist scanning shows that it recognizes the wireless signal in eth1, but Wicd cannot see anything, how to make Wicd recognize it? [22:43] That wlan0 doesn't appear... [22:43] Old_Fogie: I don't see why not :D [22:43] hahah :0 [22:43] Porpetones (n=porpeta@189.34.129.165) joined ##slackware. [22:43] ) [22:43] MrHales: then odds are that you should start reading ifconfig(8), iwconfig(8), wpa_supplicant(8) and wpa_supplicant.conf(5) [22:44] mth_ (i=1000@190-95-103-29.bk22-dsl.surnet.cl) joined ##slackware. [22:44] MrHales: or just bend over and install wicd from extra/ :P [22:44] mth_ (i=1000@190-95-103-29.bk22-dsl.surnet.cl) left irc: Client Quit [22:44] What's wicd [22:44] ? [22:44] Something to do with wireless configuration. [22:44] WIreless Client Daemon [22:44] i cant spell either [22:44] Wireless/Wired Internet Connection Daemon [22:44] Never set up wireless on GNU/Linux before.... [22:45] then you should do yourself a favor and read the above man pages [22:45] then at least you will understand what the heck is going on [22:45] and if you are going to install wicd (which I recommend), get the one from /patches instead (it's newer) [22:46] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/patches/packages/wicd-1.5.9-noarch-1_slack12.2.tgz [22:46] wicd is your friend. :) [22:46] I guess I live on the edge because I don't use wicd. [22:46] ccfreak2k: nothing wrong with that. [22:46] Porpetones (n=porpeta@189.34.129.165) left ##slackware ("[CyberScript]"). [22:46] wicd is for the wuzz :P [22:47] If you don't need it and/or don't care for the convenience it offers, then that's fine :) [22:47] ze real skript kiddies connectz with chopchop and their bare hands! :P [22:48] I switch networks too much to futz with doing all of it manually, and I didn't care to invest the time required to automate it properly from command line [22:48] mth- (i=1000@190-95-103-29.bk22-dsl.surnet.cl) left irc: "Leaving" [22:48] rworkman, could i trouble you with a couple questions about this sierra card and did you happen to catch that error i threw in here last night when i tried the sierra and sierra_chat files you hooked me up with? [22:48] I didn't; what you gout? [22:48] er, got [22:48] Well, I prefer to do things by hand... still concerns me that there isn't a blink in /dev. that's okay though? [22:48] brb with that [22:49] MrHales: corect [22:49] er, correct [22:49] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [22:49] rworkman: blame the alcohol [22:49] I only had one. [22:49] Really :) [22:49] rworkman: http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=82 LOL [22:49] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:49] haha [22:49] I'd forgotten about that. [22:50] pppd call sierra gave me this: pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/sierra: unrecognized option 'ttyUSB0' [22:50] jiffypop: hrm... pcmcia card? [22:50] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:50] jonsmith1982: eh [22:51] my card shows up in neither (yea pcmcia) lspci or lsusb...is that as it should be? [22:51] ? [22:51] does ttyUSB0 exist? [22:51] well [22:51] mbhayes: no. :) [22:51] brb with that as well, mb [22:51] jiffypop: lsmod | grep sierra [22:51] Assume we're setting this laptop up for a Linux (and Slackware) newbie who is willing to learn but that *I* want it to work right and well so that his first real experience will be good [22:51] yea, got that too [22:52] brb with that as well [22:52] rworkman: no... what? [22:52] He'll likely not see the outside of KDE if he doesn't have to (although I'll be forcing him to learn the CLI whether he likes it or not)... [22:52] mbhayes: no, the ttyUSB0 doesn't exist. :) [22:52] doh [22:53] here's dmesg grep tty: console [tty0] enabled [22:53] 1.0: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A [22:53] i gotta find the lsmod file but i do have it [22:53] i swear, lol [22:53] Is the laptop connected to the internet? [22:53] KDE's wireless configuration doesn't seem to be working, but since it hides so much, I don't know what is going wrong where. I've read that the wireless in this Eee PC is a bit wonky, but networks I can use fine, like the one Im on now, his laptop cannot see [22:53] No, can't get it connected [22:54] if you were talking to me [22:54] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-64.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [22:54] atm, yes but with xp [22:54] MrHales: I'm sorry; I was talking to jiffypop [22:54] jiffypop: can you connect to the net at all with linux? [22:54] Don't be sorry, I didn't scroll up enough [22:54] Step back away from rworkman! Do not make me pepper spray you! [22:54] no, i can't seem to make slack locate or open the modem [22:54] lmao [22:54] i'm tryin to hurry [22:55] rworkman: we need one of those "ticket" things like at the BMV [22:55] "Now calling number 4,390,341" [22:55] hehe [22:55] jiffypop: no other means of connecting? [22:56] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [22:56] Does know a method to pull the audio stream out of an mp4 video? I don't want to transcode it (so I'd like to avoid dumping to .wav) [22:57] IntangibleLiquid (n=anhhung@115.73.38.192) left irc: [22:57] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:57] jpop (n=jiffypop@32.166.202.31) joined ##slackware. [22:57] dammit, man [22:57] Action: jonsmith1982 went for a job interiew today, for web programmer. :) [22:57] dunno where that cane from [22:57] came even [22:58] they seemed to be impressed when i told them i use slackware. [22:58] lulz.. i think i just found the perfect image for my transparent proxy: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/funny-pictures-cat-denies-access-to-your-computer.jpg [22:58] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:58] Hrm, I think I added a bit too much Cholula to my salsa... [22:58] i have lsmod savded but not lsmod grep sierra-> but then i might. i've got quite a few text files save [22:58] saved [22:59] jpop: just see if "sierra" shows up in the lsmod output. [22:59] For a second I thought my mouse died then realized I was in runlevel 1. Heh. [22:59] well, it does but i'm on xp at the moment. but sierra has nothing listed beside it in lsmod [23:00] That's okay - that means it gets loaded. [23:00] serial_cs 24324 1 [23:00] jpop: you don't have any other way to connect this laptop to the internet? or at least another computer for irc? [23:00] usbserial 33640 1 sierra [23:01] sierra 15752 0 [23:01] pcmcia 36524 1 serial_cs [23:02] i'm on the road, my friend. i move people for a living and i'm in the econo lodge in philly [23:02] Oh, wow. [23:02] i'm using the card now with xp [23:02] You ever go as far as Alabama? [23:02] but i'm not using it with slack and it's kicki' my ass [23:02] ass [23:02] not you workman, lol [23:02] haha [23:02] :P [23:02] yes, just came thru last week from lafayette, la [23:03] wasalmost there week before last in columbus, ga [23:03] rolfo (n=steve@c-76-100-46-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:03] If you get close to Tuscaloosa bbefore you get this thing whipped, let me know. I'll sit down with you personally and figure it out [23:03] you know, just going to use wicd. Easier and faster and I've already had dude's laptop for a month (had *way* too much going on in my life, lately) [23:04] i'm in the process of moving the daughter of the head of ohio stae university here in downtown philly [23:04] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.167) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [23:04] oh, man...you don't know what kind of can of worms you open by sayig that, lol [23:04] that explains the hotel.. [23:04] saying even [23:05] ParadigmShift (n=chatzill@cpe-66-75-240-40.san.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:05] mbhayes: hehe [23:05] jpop: I'm serious though - I don't mind a bit. I enjoy meeting other linux people. [23:06] can anyone here tell me how to make a copy of one thumbdrive to another? I'm trying to use dd command, but it does not work [23:06] dammit, man...if i had known that, i would have stopped on the way back to ohio [23:06] dd if=/path of=/path [23:06] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:06] however [23:06] I'm making a trip to Birmingham on Saturday - I just found out someone who works in a high-profile federal agency in Bhm is a Slackware user, and his agency used to use it. [23:06] cp works [23:06] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:06] so does tar [23:06] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [23:06] but does my lsmod entries look right? [23:07] oh yea, got another one [23:07] jpop: yeah, no problems there [23:07] brb.. smoke break [23:07] i'm doing that but it keeps telling me it's out of space. I'm trying to dd copy a 4gb drive to an 8gb drive [23:07] mbhayes: good idea :P [23:07] pcmcia_core 35604 4 serial_cs,pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic [23:07] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: No route to host [23:08] rolfo: cp -a [23:08] rolfo: what kind of copy are you thinking of? entire partition/filesystem, or just the file tree? and is it vfat format? [23:08] what's the module for card readers again? [23:08] jpop: that looks fine as well [23:08] rolfo: or rater cp -ar [23:08] CaptObviousman: mmc-block or something like that [23:08] schweet [23:08] Action: CaptObviousman wonders why his card reader worked like a charm before, and now it's not doing the auto-thing [23:09] and for the record, i've tried every modem in the list with kppp [23:09] to no avail [23:09] rolfo_ (n=steve@c-76-100-46-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] If only there was a box on my right, I [23:10] another question... [23:10] I'd have Linux on all four sides [23:10] Action: MrHales shoots his typist. [23:11] What is the deal with qt-mt, KDE 4.2, and the rest of the software world? [23:11] alisonken1home: I'm trying to get the partition on the thumbdrive. it's vfat formatted [23:12] when dmesg states firmware: requesting SW_7xx_SER.cis0.0 and doesn't say it isn't found, i'm good there as well? [23:12] macavity: I want to run fsck on it, so cp only gets me files [23:12] I was happily ignorant of such a thing until recently (until 4.2) and realized that k3b no longer worked No problem, I'll just remove the package and roll my own. But I won't, configure can't find qt. So I point the way, which I've never had to do before, and then am informed that I don't have qt-mt. [23:12] humm, something else is afoot [23:12] I plugs in my camera and it doesn't do anything either [23:12] Action: CaptObviousman growls [23:12] sorry, that wasfrom a poorly formatted notepad file [23:13] NyteOwl (i=nodezero@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [23:13] g'day [23:14] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:14] so why is dd telling me the 8gb drive is out of space? does anyone tell me? [23:14] -a jpop on that, I'm not sure. Do this: find /lib/firmware -name "SW_7xx_SER.cis0.0" -print [23:14] If anyone wants to try for a free t-shirt http://www.gfi.com/freetshirt (USA only :/) [23:14] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:14] rolfo_ (n=steve@c-76-100-46-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:15] rolfo_ (n=steve@c-76-100-46-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:15] rworkman: dont worry.. if firmware is not found, or in the wrong version, dmesg gets spammed [23:15] sorry, that should have been: firmware: requesting SW_7xx_SER.cis [23:15] then [23:15] rworkman: .... i just found out :P [23:15] I am actually thoroughly enjoying my KDE 4.2 experience (save for the lack of administrator mode, not being able to find anything, stuff randomly breaking, and the apparent qt-mt problem) [23:15] so why is dd telling me the 8gb drive is out of space? does anyone tell me? [23:15] macavity: ahaha, good :) [23:15] I mean can anyone tell me? [23:15] 0.0: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A [23:15] then [23:15] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for Sierra USB modem [23:15] rworkman: iwl3945 requires a firmware upgrade for .29 [23:15] jpop: is that the next line after the firmware request? [23:15] Please forgive my randomness, I'm working on three boxes at once. [23:16] macavity: newer than what we already have? [23:16] rolfo: what does df say? [23:16] yes [23:16] then usbcore: registered new interface driver sierra [23:16] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:16] jpop: change that ttyUSB0 line to read ttyS0 [23:16] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@166.196.146.155) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:16] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: "leaving" [23:17] rolfo (n=steve@c-76-100-46-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:17] NyteOwl: df shows the 4gb disk almost full (238mb fee) and the 8gb is empty (just formatted), 7.8gb free [23:17] i don't have a ttyUSB0 line [23:17] jpop: in the /etc/ppp/peers/sierra file you do. [23:18] and what were you trying to do with dd? [23:18] rolfo_: You can't dd the 4gb disk to a vfat volume without splitting. The linux vfat driver has a 2gb limit. [23:18] copy a disk to another disk [23:18] SpacePlod: hey Barry; I got your mail, but haven't taken the time to reply yet. [23:18] that's why it's failing. [23:19] SpacePlod: re the question in there though, sure - I'll take them, and I'll get them to the proper people. [23:19] rworkman: no biggie! It's not like you're busy. ;-) [23:19] hehe [23:19] cool. I'll send em out. [23:19] SpacePlod: and best wishes in Satan's country ;-) [23:19] ooops, sorry...i'm a slacker (couldn't resist) [23:19] No kidding. [23:20] I'll keep the jack booted thugs in line. [23:20] Good :D [23:20] Satan's country? [23:20] rworkman: let me step out and try that. i'll let ya know [23:20] rolfo_: you need to pipe the dd command to split so the image is broken into 2gb parts [23:21] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] CaptObviousman: sorry; private conversation that I shouldn't have brought here :/ [23:21] Action: CaptObviousman figured it was an analog to God's country of some kind [23:21] jpop (n=jiffypop@32.166.202.31) left irc: "brb with hopefully with good news" [23:21] which means he's a northerner? [23:21] rolfo_ (n=steve@c-76-100-46-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:21] California? ;) [23:21] aha [23:21] rolfo (n=steve@c-76-100-46-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:21] Action: CaptObviousman was going to guess North Dakota or somewhere equally desolate [23:22] hehe [23:22] rolfo: bad connection? [23:22] Minnesota. [23:22] Redmond Washington [23:22] Nothing but crazy people up there. [23:22] Especially the Volkerdings. [23:22] now now [23:22] Think "between MD and VA" [23:22] hehehe [23:23] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.159.37) left irc: "leaving" [23:23] okay, so how to split? [23:23] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [23:23] Type /quit [23:23] ;-) [23:23] qwaza (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [23:25] dd if=/dev/sdx | split -d -b 2000M - image. [23:25] ParadigmShift (n=chatzill@cpe-66-75-240-40.san.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:25] Action: CaptObviousman can already tell that this week is going to be murder [23:25] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:26] you need to pipe dd to split. When you get to an ext fs where you can rebuild, just cat the images together and redirect to a single file. [23:26] rolfo: Maybe I'm missing something obvious here, but if all you want to do is copy the data from one to the other, and you've already formatted the "other" one, then why don't you just mount both of them and use cp(1) ? [23:26] CaptObviousman: It took you until Tuesday night to figure that out? ;) [23:27] rworkman: I need to move a filesystem copy that can be fsck'd [23:27] come to think of it (duh!) maybe you should just reformat the 6gb ext3, since it's newly formatted anyway... [23:27] rolfo: oh, then listen to SpacePlod [23:28] splitting it so you can burn to dvd? [23:28] well, yeah [23:29] http://noobfarm.org/index.php?id=223 <-- another of my shining moments :D [23:29] normally weeks are tolerable [23:29] but two 14 hour days in a row, with another one immediately following it [23:29] that's a big clue [23:29] pi31415: no...splitting so it can be written to vfat (2gb size limit) [23:30] This Vaio has a switch on the front of the case for powering the wireless card. It is, seemingly, totally ineffectual. [23:30] ah, dvd also has a 2gb size limit [23:30] This may be the "real problem" [23:30] I did not know about the limit to vfat. If I reformat it ext, will I still split? [23:30] No. That's the easier option. [23:30] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.176.74) joined ##slackware. [23:31] CaptObviousman: Ouch dude, what the hell are you doing that you need to work that late? [23:31] like I said...duh. (I should have thought of that before the split it tirade) [23:31] okay. I can reformat. Then just dd as normal? [23:31] yes [23:33] thanks for the help. [23:33] np [23:33] rolfo (n=steve@c-76-100-46-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [23:35] How may I check to see if the card is on? The system knows its there, driver is in place, but I really don't know the first thing about this. I've gone through the Wireless-HOWTO and found it... less than informative. [23:36] The Wacom tablet (mostly) works and I'm sure eth0 is fine (though I've yet to test it) but this wireless thing is driving me a bit batty. [23:37] iwconfig seems to be working with the card, but no networks can be found. [23:37] dk (n=lima@dk.linuxsecured.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] I don't know where in teh filesystem wlan0 supposedly exists... [23:38] if the system knows it's there I'd assume it's on [23:38] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.176.74) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:38] the, even. [23:38] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:40] when I "find" it, it shows in various children of /proc (several dozen, so far, actually) [23:41] and twice in /sys, once in /sys/devices... and once in /sys/class/net [23:41] find / -xdev -name wlan0 [23:41] but I doubt that wlan0 exists in your filesystem [23:41] In the virtual ones. [23:41] it is a network interface, like eth0 [23:41] what exactly are you trying to do? sorry didn't follow the convo [23:41] ls -l /sys/class/net/wlan0/device/driver/module [23:42] Trying to get wireless networking working on a Sony Vaio [23:42] The name of which now causes me pain. [23:42] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [23:43] sony Vaiolent Repulsion [23:43] 'zactly [23:43] sony VaioVai did i get this one? [23:43] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [23:44] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.176.74) joined ##slackware. [23:44] i bought mine because of the nice res... :) [23:44] Oh, and, I asked once before, but what is the deal with sonypi and sony-laptop and if the latter is preferred, why does the former still load and how do I get those Fn keys set up and does the camera work? (I've read articles that seem to indicate the contrary for the camera) [23:45] It's a Sony Vaio NS model PCG-7142L [23:46] Which I cannot seem to find much info on (at least not Slackware installation, Ubuntu, mebbe) [23:46] is it a software button stoppin you or something? cos sonypi or sony-laptop shouldn't come into it otherwise. [23:46] i have a vaio [23:46] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [23:46] That's just another issue [23:47] Thing is, from here, on an Eee PC, I have about 75% signal strength and am led to believe that the wireless card in this lil box is sub-par [23:47] (from what I've read) [23:48] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:48] So *surely* the Vaio, four feet away, could at least *see* the same network, but no joy [23:49] What I really need, I guess, is a good, step-by-step to get wireless running on that thing, but I don't seem to be able to find the instructions printed on drool-proof paper that is, apparently, what I require because this thing has be about licked. [23:49] but aside from that wifi works? [23:49] It *seems* to work. [23:49] IntangibleLiquid (n=anhhung@115.73.33.197) joined ##slackware. [23:49] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] But I don't know [23:50] hi, I messed up my b43 wireless driver, now Wicd is stuck at Validating Authentication, any idea? :( [23:50] I cannot test it because a) no networks are in range or b) it actually isn't working [23:51] iwlist returns empty? [23:52] hmm [23:52] Anyone have both a newer Vaio and an Eee PC? Perhaps the Eee really has better wireless (which would be weird at 1/5 the cost) [23:52] must be the way I compiled my kernel [23:52] Rebooting, hold on.. [23:52] oh well, it was time to update to the new one anyway [23:53] Meanwhile, back at stately Desktop System, Qt continues to build... [23:53] my vaio has a hardware switch for wifi [23:53] Yeah, thisone, too [23:54] But it (again) seems non-functional [23:54] No light, no changes in dmesg before and after [23:54] The system seems to recognize the card switch off and on [23:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:54] what is the pci id of the device? [23:55] is the module loaded and all that? [23:55] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:55] 04:00.0 [23:55] thats not it [23:55] lspci -n [23:56] 04:00.0 0200: 168c:002a (rev 01) [23:57] ath9k driver and module loaded [23:57] ifconfig shows it? [23:58] yes, states up, broadcast, multicast [23:58] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [23:58] mtu is 1500 metric is 1 txqueuelen is 1000 and everything else is 0 [23:58] jesus, no one should have to struggle this much with wireless. install wicd. run wicd as root, then wicd-client as user. [23:58] Link encap Ethernet [23:59] ... What just happened?! [23:59] It wasn't, now is, working [23:59] how... odd [23:59] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Wed Feb 25 2009