[00:00] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:00] figabo (~figabo@201.164.195.255) left irc: Quit: Get MacIrssi - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/ [00:01] neonflux (~neonflux@dhcp64-134-224-65.fpscc.den.wayport.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:01] riza: The legal issue you were referring to is the GPL (copyleft): http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/ [00:03] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:05] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) joined ##slackware. [00:05] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:06] Action: stinky wonders when firefox will be updated in kernel. [00:06] in -currenta* [00:07] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) joined ##slackware. [00:07] Ugh I often confuse GPL with GNU. [00:07] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:07] so since all the tools that acompany the linux kernel arent only gnu made, why dont you mention all others as your supposed os? [00:08] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-120.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [00:10] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-119-195.consolidated.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:10] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-429112.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:13] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:13] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:14] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:14] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [00:14] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [00:15] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:17] wharncliffe (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:19] schenkel (~schenkel@187.52.31.62) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:22] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:23] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:24] Alright. [00:24] Thanks a lot folks, back to reading / studying. [00:24] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [00:24] hello everyone [00:24] GTFO! [00:24] cypherpunko (~yogini@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:25] peacenik (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [00:25] eriwitna, bein' reversed,make you a livewire?....:) [00:26] lol [00:26] It's "Erie Whit Nah" [00:27] lol [00:30] heya,grifulkin [00:31] how are you MLanden ? [00:31] doin' great thanks...yourself? [00:31] pretty good [00:31] mlanden [00:31] how come you never put spaces after comma's ? [00:31] you're from VA, eh? [00:32] jeev [00:33] binlanden [00:33] so thats why no one can find him, he's going by his initials now [00:33] Skywise, nobody is looking for him [00:34] one guy was, but he got arrested in pakistan and they made him stop [00:34] that's some lunatic in pakistan try to gain an american reward which will never be paid out [00:34] he had a bible and a sword, one of those was bound to work [00:35] and the open-source beard...:D [00:35] and the gnu smell [00:36] i'd rather smell bin laden than shit coming off bush [00:36] :> [00:36] the odor of lies [00:36] if we really wanted to find bin laden someone would just look at bush's xmas card lis [00:36] list [00:36] I get why so many people have "trouble" with Slackware. But on topic we have a better chance of Glen Beck meeting hitler then us finding Bin Laden [00:36] I don't get why * [00:36] haha Skywise [00:37] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-119-195.consolidated.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] Grifulkin, slackware isn't as cute as ubunti [00:37] yes jeev the almighty ubuntu [00:37] pnq (asdf@ACA24D8D.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:37] it looks like win7, must be awesome@#$@#$^ [00:38] The difference is I like Win7 [00:38] heh [00:38] i dont man, im still stuck usingi t [00:38] i cant stand grouping [00:38] the grouping in the toolbar? [00:39] yea, i disable the previews [00:39] and disable grouping [00:39] but it still gives me text grouping [00:39] yeah I changed the grouping to not group as well, it's annoying [00:39] for example, i have 5 firefox's open, if i mouseover one, it'll show all 5 in text form [00:39] yeah, that is annoying [00:40] unbelievably annoying man [00:40] and I changed all icons to small, because they don't need to be big enough for me to see them from the other side of the room [00:41] yep [00:41] but then again I still play games and I like Win7 for that and for Skype with my Fiance [00:42] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:42] But I think that Slackware is by far the best distro, for the fact that it doesn't handle dependencies [00:43] among other things [00:44] Grifulkin, what a coincidence, i skype with your fiance too [00:45] jeev yeah it sucks because she lives with her parents right now 4 hours away from me while I live with my parents going to different grad schools, we went to undergrad together so this distance really sucks because we were use to not having to deal with it [00:46] but I might get into a school where she is and then we wouldn't have to do the distance thing which would be very nice [00:46] why would your parent's go to different grad schools, didn't that upset the rest of the family [00:46] Grifulkin, been there - I was stationed in san diego while I was dating my wife in los angeles [00:47] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.69.141) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [00:47] me and my gf broke up after undergrad because of that [00:47] she wanted to live in nyc cause she was from the sticks [00:47] Skywise, my fiance and I are in different grad schools lol [00:48] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:48] Grifulkin, if you get near her then i have to stop skyping her [00:48] dont cockblock bro [00:48] its easier to stay in touch now then when i was in school [00:49] that it is Skywise [00:49] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:50] I'm looking forward to finally being married next summer though [00:51] i don't believe in marrage, but i do believe in long term relationships [00:51] my problem with marrage is the concept of being in control of the other spouse is an old fantasy [00:51] Grifulkin, how much will your wedding cost ? [00:51] but i got no problem with the committment part [00:52] jeev, well my finace likes the finer things but her parents are paying for it it looks like somwhere around 40,000 ish [00:52] screw that [00:52] hand out twinkies and orange aid and buy a cd or a vacation [00:53] then again the wedding is in the city where she is rather then the middle of nowhere where I am so it's much more expensive [00:53] lucky [00:53] mine will be min 100k [00:53] thats such an exhoribitant waste of money [00:53] crocket (~quassel@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [00:53] crocket (quassel@121.168.91.143) left ##slackware. [00:53] i think having that money in your pocket would be better [00:53] jeev, what? 40,000 is already way to much for me to ever spend on it, its going to be way to ritzy for me that's for sure [00:53] tell the people [00:53] armenians love expensive weddings [00:54] so does most of asia [00:54] jeev, when are you 2 getting married? [00:54] long time from now lol [00:54] saudi men despair because it costs 60k now just for the dowry [00:57] Skywise, Yanni - Reflections of Passion [00:57] go listen [00:57] i have a filter that prevents that [00:57] lmao [00:57] do it [00:58] no thanks, i don't even like imagining it [00:58] wow, i expected more out of you [00:58] feel free to expect as much as you want [00:58] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488F8CB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [00:59] woh3 (will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [00:59] i'm still disappointed but you've got time to change my opinion about you [00:59] is time up yet? [00:59] lol [00:59] do it [00:59] beautiful song [01:00] i know Grifulkin is listening to it [01:00] suuuuuure [01:00] wow, you've got no taste [01:00] I'm pretty sure I know it [01:00] jeev, good song and album [01:00] it's not yanni's gay voices show, it's no singing [01:00] haha [01:00] Motoko-chan, high five [01:00] live at the acropolis > * [01:00] Voices was/is a bad bad idea [01:00] voices was terrible [01:01] only rainmaker is good [01:01] you know, they make pills to help with this problem, you two [01:01] dood if yanni ever pulls off another acropolis, i'm going to spend 10k to go [01:01] Action: Motoko-chan has a wide range of music taste [01:01] goj (~goj@p5488FBE5.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:01] i listen to hip hop, rap, classical.. some stgupid pop and shit [01:01] i have a very wide range [01:01] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [01:01] i'm 22 years deep into piano [01:01] hence why i type 4000 wpm [01:02] EuroPop, Metal, Classical, NA, AOR, MOR, Country/Western, Bluegrass, etc.... [01:02] bluegrass? [01:02] Scuzz (~scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [01:02] Action: jeev removes high five from queue [01:02] and 22 years deep into Yanni, hence why you fap 4000faps per minute [01:02] eriwitna, blow thee [01:02] Today was Brad Paisley (C/W), Silversun Pickups, and a few others. [01:02] Motoko-chan, sounds like the hicks 20 miles away fixing up 1972 ford f series pick ups [01:02] Tomorrow might be Lacuna Coil, Rammstein, and Juno Reactor. [01:02] woh3 (~will@67.232.145.174) joined ##slackware. [01:03] so on a side note how old is everyone here? [01:03] Maybe with some Hank 3. [01:03] 42, of course [01:03] 23 here [01:03] 28 [01:03] 20 < x < 30 [01:03] Silversun Pickups? I don't think the hicks would like them... [01:03] silverado.. silversun [01:03] same thing [01:03] Not quite. [01:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG8fugqFn9Q [01:04] That's their major single of late. [01:04] not interested in lady antibellum type music [01:04] Srsly, it's not country. [01:04] Go play. [01:04] it gave me a virus [01:04] Blame Google. [01:05] Silversun Pickups is rock. [01:05] 2.1 million views? must be getting ddosed by a big ass ubunti botnet [01:05] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:05] With heavy distorted guitars and very up-front bass. [01:05] yea i dont care much for that [01:05] although i like uh [01:05] what's that guy [01:05] wallflowers - one headlihg [01:05] t [01:05] Jakob Dylan. [01:05] He has a solo album out now. [01:06] It's pretty good. [01:06] i'm not into justin bieber like eriwitna and Grifulkin [01:06] I've heard of him. Never listened. [01:06] Closest I've gotten to that is some of Demi Lovato's harder stuff. [01:06] you wanna listen to a good pianist, listen to some lyle mays [01:07] of course I like to that jeev [01:07] especially with pat metheny group [01:07] Skywise, not interested in anything that has group at the end [01:07] reminds me of shittygroup [01:07] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwJAISKaR1s <-- Jakob Dylan [01:07] You know Vanilla Fudge? [01:07] no [01:08] is that when white people soil themselves? [01:08] you claim to be interested in music, even jazz and you haven't listened to pat metheny group? [01:08] No... [01:08] wasn't he a rapper? [01:08] Vanilla Fudge was a 60s psychadelic group. [01:08] who said i listen to jazz [01:08] Influenced Zeppelin. [01:08] Motoko-chan, i was born a while after the 60's [01:08] after the 70's, and 80's [01:08] i dont give a shit about zeppelin [01:09] overrated mumbo jumbo [01:09] So? [01:09] pink panther people [01:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aWFaZgwerY [01:09] There. [01:09] Vanilla Fudge [01:09] Actually, that's an awful video... [01:09] Well, it gets better... [01:09] anyway download some lyle mays and see what a piano can be played like [01:10] Skywise, my piano has boogers on every key [01:10] you have to use 'em for something [01:11] oh yeah, you can youtube pat metheny and lyle mays [01:11] Better VF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifpmXmsecrU [01:11] That's a better version of the song. [01:11] You should know that song. [01:11] One of their big hits. [01:11] Besides Season of the Witch, which Paul Simon covered. [01:12] listen to yanni and be quiet, everyone [01:12] if you dont, you're ubunti fans [01:12] ubunti? [01:12] yanni, blech [01:12] jeev, http://users.animeneko.net/motokochan/mydb/index.php?action=artist&aid=33 [01:12] List of my Yanni CDs [01:12] Action: Motoko-chan has LatA on tape [01:12] next you'll be recommending kenny g [01:13] I also own a Kenny G album [01:13] man, your life sucks [01:13] tape :? [01:13] what the hell [01:13] 'course, I also listen to The Cult [01:13] And Deep Purple [01:13] And Rammstein. [01:13] Mixed with some J-Pop. [01:13] yes Rammstein [01:14] J-Pop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqypGrjSXZE [01:14] OH MY GOD, the mermaid [01:14] i haven't heard that song for everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [01:14] tar up all your yanni's and send it NOW OR DIE [01:14] What song? [01:14] tar? [01:14] everything [01:14] aid=33 [01:14] send [01:14] I don't have rips handy. [01:14] i'd have to put /dev/null into reverse for that [01:14] Go buy the albums. [01:15] i lost most of them [01:15] Action: Motoko-chan sings [01:15] Tokyo I'm on my way! [01:15] hmm ;/ [01:15] In my brand new Honda, it's not so far away! [01:15] s/Honda/auto [01:15] Unless they changed off the official lyrics [01:16] i did an exhaustive search and turned up 0 yanni songs out of 10,000 [01:16] what are you blabbing about [01:16] Who? [01:16] Skywise, now you're just a liar [01:16] you Motoko-chan [01:16] I'm singing. [01:17] See last video link. [01:17] there weren't any [01:17] Oh, I also have a Mediaeval Baebes album or two. [01:17] Skywise, where did you look? on a hicks computer ? [01:17] i read that as michael buble [01:17] Not on my indexed website though. [01:17] my music management system carefully stores yanni music outside of space and time [01:18] in the morning light is beautiful [01:18] Skywise, listen http://users.animeneko.net/motokochan/mydb/audio/3842955535/02.mp3 [01:18] it'll take a few seconds out of your endless amount of empty time [01:18] Mediaeval Baebes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2i1mQahs2c [01:18] but losing it to yanni would be unrecoverable [01:19] does anyone know what owner and permissions need to be on the /var/ww/htdocs/phpmyadmin/ folder? ive installed it dozens of times and never ever got a you do not have permission to access /phpmyadmin/ error until slacklware 13.1 [01:19] woh3, what does the error log say? [01:19] woh3, i would presume something like that would be documented [01:19] where is the error log? [01:19] Even better is that Delierium re-uses MB songs [01:19] woh3, /var/log/ [01:19] its in /var/lib/apache/logs [01:20] and that could be from your httpd.conf [01:20] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.105.154) joined ##slackware. [01:20] Nick change: bgs100 -> bgs000 [01:20] attempt to invoke directory '/srv/httpd/htdocs/phpmyadmin/' as script [01:21] i'd be more helpfull but all this talk of yanni has put me off kilter [01:21] Skywise, don't be an idiot. [01:21] Go listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vneFS48Z4Ws [01:21] It's The Cult. [01:21] i got boc [01:22] That should get blood flowing to your head. [01:22] boc? [01:22] Motoko-chan: did you see the error? [01:22] blue oyster cult [01:22] woh3, that doesn't say much. [01:22] what other cult is there [01:22] It's Blue Öyster Cult [01:22] You missed the umlat. [01:23] yeah, that doesn't even look like a word [01:23] Kinda like Motörhead [01:23] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:24] but i'm listening to pat metheny now [01:24] the imaginary day album [01:24] Veteran of the Psychic Wars...good cover done by Tarot [01:24] hhe's a virtuoso guitarist [01:24] he's got crazy chops [01:25] across the sky [01:26] you know if it wasn't for creeps like the riaa and mpaa, i could play songs for you over irc by now [01:27] speaking of streaming,I see that vlc and shoutcast are still in dispute [01:27] dispute? [01:27] shoutcast really needed mbone to take off [01:28] its too expensive to carry more then just a few listeners, i used to have a station with about 30 or 40 tops [01:28] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:28] Motoko-chan, http://www.videolan.org/vlc/releases/1.1.0.html [01:28] hello again [01:28] what? no-one pimping realmedia? :) [01:28] i could have a bitchin station on fios now, but i can't get fios, and still wouldn't wanna gobble up all my bandwidth that way [01:28] I do recall an issue with licensing. [01:28] . o O ( buffering.. ) [01:29] Action: Motoko-chan has FiOS [01:30] you should listen to Pat Metheny Group - Imaginary Day - The Heat of the Day [01:30] the solos are awesome [01:32] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK6JDlclFw0&feature=related [01:32] jsfspider1010 (~spider101@243.sub-97-38-238.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [01:34] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:34] alphageek, nah.... more like silverlight..:'() [01:37] Xgates (~Xgates@unaffiliated/xgates) joined ##slackware. [01:37] hey guys [01:37] jsfspider1010 (~spider101@243.sub-97-38-238.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [01:38] apparently, there are meds that can clear that right up [01:38] how can this cmd, find . -type l -print | perl -nle '-e || print' ; be made so that if I 'cd /' and run it from / it will scan the entire box for broke or dead links? [01:39] change find . to find / [01:39] because when I ran it from / it wasn't scanning everything, when I 'cd /usr/lib' and ran it from there I found some broke dead links... [01:39] http://alphageek.dyndns.org/linux/slackware-packages.shtml#symlinks < cleaner solution [01:40] finds & optionally deals with dead/absolute/relative symlinks [01:41] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.105.154) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [01:41] hey alphageek ok cool thanks [01:42] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [01:44] it's quite an old util (dates back to 1996 or thereabouts) but it's still quite handy [01:48] I found a different version 1.4, I wonder if it's newer? http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/utils/file/symlinks-1.4.tar.gz [01:48] yeah sure I've known about it, just that I was using that cmd to do the job [01:50] woh3 (will@67.232.145.174) left ##slackware. [01:50] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:52] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [01:52] alphageek: you know anything about that 1.4 version on ibiblio? [01:52] diffing sources now [01:53] oh not the same developer? [01:53] it is [01:53] oh you were doing a diff on it, I thought you were saying it's different souces :) [01:54] ahh [01:54] so is that 1.4 more updated, maybe better to use? [01:54] I wonder if that was the latest version [01:54] look for 1.4 in my repo in a day or so.. sorta busy [01:54] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-63-156.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [01:55] well I can grab that one from ibiblio, you don't think it needs any patching though? [01:55] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-55-162.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:56] doesn't look it [01:56] ok thanks [01:56] the patch I made for 1.2 appears to have been incorporated into 1.4 [01:56] ahh ok [01:57] so 1.4 was the last version? [01:57] I don't think is any others [01:57] what does it do? [01:58] classifies symlinks as relative, absolute, dangling, messy, lengthy, or other_fs & optionally cleans them up [01:59] messy meaning what ? [01:59] ah ok, sounds useful. hard to notice "dangling" symlinks sometimes [01:59] mancha, close call on firefox 3.6.4..:) [01:59] /bin/foo -> ../bin/bar [01:59] /bin/foo -> bar [02:00] ^ like so [02:00] MLanden, i know, but close doesn't cut it. If I don't pay my debts to the vegas folks, Sammy the Dagger will visit me during the night :) [02:00] alphageek: gotcha [02:01] mancha, ewww...gotcha, palley [02:01] j/k :) yeah was close on 3.6.....off by a day. are you using it? [02:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-63-156.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [02:01] mancha, yeah [02:02] crocket (~quassel@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [02:02] MLanden: I forgot are you using pcmanfm 0.5.2? [02:02] btw, don't just grab the util & process your running filesystem. certain things _depend_ on their symlinks being the way they are. subtle fuckups can happen [02:02] alienBOB : I tried to download http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vlc/build/* from your repository. how can I do it? wget http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vlc/build doesn't work. [02:02] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:02] Xgates, on my laptop [02:03] morning [02:03] MLanden: I found the FIX :) -----> http://pastebin.com/Abr5uPh3 [02:03] wget -r http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vlc/build/ just downloads everything in connie.slackware.com [02:03] that you and me were workign on before [02:04] crocket, if you look at the text on http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/, you will see mirroring instructions. [02:04] of course for Icon= you can have a real one so it shows up in pcmanfm if you want [02:04] that use lftp, not wget. [02:04] Xgates, yeah....making a desktop entry for mime to pick up...working good for you? [02:05] yeah that works great :) [02:05] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:05] hey so for me all I want to do is just look for dead symlinks I know the ones that popup for like /proc and /dev to leave alone [02:05] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [02:06] so will this work what Skywise showed me to replace the . to / and make it as ----> find / -type l -print | perl -nle '-e || print' ; [02:06] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:06] Xgates, #bash [02:07] #bash what? [02:07] #bash the channel. they know their stuff very well. [02:07] hey, don't bash us [02:07] ahhh [02:08] slava_dp: wget is not very good. [02:08] o_O [02:09] if you can't use a tool properly, don't tell people it is not good. [02:09] crocket: Why? [02:09] Mel-nix : It is not capable of downloading a directory from alienBOB's repository. [02:09] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [02:10] wget does excellent at mirroring whole websites [02:10] xgates,for the icon...you could use this http://www.techwebtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/GNU-Nano-Editor-Mac-Image.png [02:11] this finds all broken symlinks: find -L -type l [02:11] Hi. I found my machine rebooted and when checking /var/log/syslog there was a LOT of these: http://pastebin.com/TUK1dNyC [02:11] what is it? DDoS? [02:11] A DDoS from one ip address lol [02:12] looks like iptables is logging stuff to me [02:12] slava_dp: that's just a part, i've found multiple IP addresses [02:12] Nick change: oobe -> poopoo [02:12] the packets were dropped. why would the box reboot? [02:13] Oh. wget -r --no-parent http://somehost/~luzer/my-archive/ can be used to download a directory, not the whole website. [02:13] Nick change: poopoo -> oobe [02:13] crocket, are you allergic to lftp? [02:13] slava_dp: no [02:13] slava_dp: I really don't know. I wasn't around it to see, but little brother said it makes some strange sounds, like an old matricial printer [02:13] ok, just wanted to know [02:14] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-125-254.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [02:15] i have no idea what firewall is logging this, whered you get it from? it is incomplete logging, imho [02:15] first I thinked of a hdd problem but but smartctl didn't show up anything. neither the logs. [02:15] jgeboski (james@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [02:15] mancha: this is a firewall script i made with alien's generator [02:15] actually alien's generator made it [02:16] weird [02:16] i don't know alien's generator at all [02:17] but, the logging is coming from that, check for a -j LOG line or tewo in your firewall [02:17] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-131.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:17] that log looks totally jacked up [02:18] speaking of firewalls I grabbed ufw and made a slackpkg for it, seems like a pretty good script [02:18] i don;t lkike this 99 crap i've seen that on RH scripts too [02:18] looks to me like something on INPUT isn't matching... [02:19] well, i'll check it out. at least i know that's not the cause my machine rebooted [02:19] yeah, pastebin your firewall and i'll have a look [02:19] what does set -e used for in a Slackbuild? [02:19] does/is.... [02:19] There is another front end for iptables. [02:19] fail on errors [02:19] it makes the script conk out on any error [02:20] so you don't need to do stuff like cd /path/that/dont/exist || exit 1 [02:21] mancha, looks like with firefox 3.6.4...it places flash in a seperate entry in top...'plugin-container' that can killall it with firefox still running [02:21] cool feature indeed [02:22] MLanden, their much touted OOPP technology, pretty much plugin containment [02:22] ('bout time :) ) [02:22] Xgates, 'help set' [02:22] mancha: http://pastebin.com/ybC9NS2S [02:23] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:23] Mlanden, where exactly do you see this? [02:24] well I'm looking at man set don't see any -e flag [02:24] Do any of you appreciate shorewall? [02:24] Xgates: it's a shell builtin, hence "help" [02:24] Xgates, 'type -a set' [02:24] line 618 is doing it Azeotrope [02:24] Xgates, bash builtins use 'help' [02:25] ahhh ok [02:25] mancha: oh, ok. thank you! [02:25] crocket: for what's it's worth ufw seems like a tough one to beat for something that is fairly straight forward and easy, but it depends on your needs [02:26] Xgates : ufw is uncomplicated firewall, should be easy to use if the name is correct. [02:26] lol [02:26] YEPPER ;p [02:26] mancha, in htop,saw this-->/usr/lib/firefox-3.6.4/plugin-container ... went in terminal, and issued a killall to plugin-container [02:27] so that oopp stuff in gecko doesn't work with java ? [02:28] maybe i'm going to have to upgrade and see ;) [02:28] MLandedn, that is very cool! google "firefox oopp" for more fun [02:29] the mozilla wiki says it's only for flash, quicktime and silverlight [02:29] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [02:29] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:31] Ok, i found this at 4am and another one, the same, at 6am: Jun 24 04:45:11 slackware5 syslogd 1.4.1: restart. [02:31] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [02:31] any idea on how I could get a hint on the reason it reboots? [02:31] that means either a ctrl-alt-delete or a restart command or similar [02:31] have you checked the logs just before that reboot? [02:31] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-125-254.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:32] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [02:33] laos, i would look at the lastlog with "last" a genuine reboot shoudl show up there too [02:33] mancha, cool [02:33] laos=also [02:33] and a country of indochina [02:33] got your fingers all thai'ed up [02:33] sedohrt *rimshot* ! [02:33] eriwitna (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: ...you missed the starting gun. [02:34] (i'll be here all week :P) [02:34] hah [02:34] sedohrt, what's the capital?.....'shutters' [02:35] hehe [02:35] ;) [02:36] Azeotrope, a syslog restart at 4:45 is usually caused by logrotate. at 6 -- would be some other cause. [02:36] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) joined ##slackware. [02:36] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [02:36] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:37] why would logrotate cause a restart? [02:37] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Client Quit [02:37] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-108.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:37] mancha, a syslog restart. [02:37] MLanden, it is an ongoing project and they're recruiting more plugin writers as we speak. ideally all plugins will adhere to oopp protocols and run separate from the core. [02:38] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [02:38] xsamurai (~munki@unaffiliated/xsamurai) joined ##slackware. [02:38] mancha, awesome [02:38] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-16-10.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:38] oh, he is worried about syslog restarting or about his macine rebooting? i missed the original... [02:39] machine rebooting. I just pointed out that 4:45 is logrotate. [02:40] Delahunt (~robert@72.183.117.4) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:40] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Client Quit [02:41] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [02:46] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-22-124.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [02:46] gimp upgraded to 2.6.9 [02:46] BadAtom (~epigramma@supporter/active/BadAtom) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:47] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:48] ganeshix (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:48] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [02:49] cool, please tell me we can haz 16-bit depth [02:52] gimp didn't support 16-bit color depth? wut? [02:52] nope [02:52] Azalyn: it didn't [02:54] wdyy (~yy64@123.80.92.11) joined ##slackware. [02:55] it's surprising it is still not there given the switch over to gegl which should make this depth support easier to implement [02:55] gimp's guys were a little bit hardheaded about how they want to add support for more bits. that's why cinepaint guys forked out their branch [02:56] gegl is being implemented slowly. it's there, but many tools still can't deal with it [02:56] maybe i'm not understanding well, i'm not really that much into imaging editing, a year ago i wouldn't even be able to tell you what a "path" was, all those advanced editing apps (both gimp and photoshop) always confused me with all their buttons... [02:56] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-131.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:56] i only recently started to play around with it and get it. [02:56] but you *are* talking about 65,536 colors right? "High Color" ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth#HighColor [02:58] Woot --- Slackware package /tmp/symlinks-1.4-i486-1_sar.tgz created. [02:58] solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) joined ##slackware. [02:59] MLanden, thanks for the heads up [02:59] mancha, was just updating...np [03:01] yes... sadly, gimp doesn't support more than 8-bits per channel [03:01] for now [03:02] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-122-22-124.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:03] ok, now i'm pretty sure we're talking about something different. i wasn't thinking about 'channels', but rather about the image in general. [03:03] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [03:03] Azalyn: that's per channel. colour pictures use three channels RGB (for now.. cmyk support is coming with bebl) [03:03] the total color. which is usually 24bit as far as i know.. [03:03] yeah, i know about rgb. [03:03] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-15-238.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:04] so you're saying that you want 16bit *per* channel? [03:04] coloured pictures can have more bits per channel though [03:04] yeah [03:04] 32bit per channel is used alot too [03:04] not 16bit total? (which is what i was understanding, and could not believe that gimp did not have that, made no sense to me) [03:04] hehe, ok, well that makes more sense then. [03:05] I tried to open some .avi files and mplayer sais no sound altrough I do have sound in Firefox and other apps. if I do /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa restart i get this: Unknown hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Realtek ALC888" "HDA:10ec0888,1458a002,00100001" "0x1458" "0xa002" [03:05] Hardware is initialized using a guess method [03:05] and yeah, i read about gegl. and how it was supposed to bring cmyk with it. [03:06] i know people have been asking for cmyk forever. [03:06] 24bits in total is really okay for almost everything that doesn't require perfection :) [03:06] cmyk will be brought by bebl.... [03:06] iirc :P [03:06] babl * [03:07] there was two four-letter acronyms [03:07] ah... babl [03:07] "babl is a support library for GEGL which provides a generic way to deal with color space conversions;[4] This is done by abstracting the fundamental color operations so that GEGL does not have to be as aware of them. Through babl GEGL provides an optimized and powerful (optionally with SIMD support) treatment of arbitrary color data; This enables dependant applications to efficiently support a wide range of color spaces (from [03:07] 8-bit RGB to full floating point CMYK) with minimal extra application code." [03:07] damnit, stupid ircd. :( [03:07] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-429112.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:07] splitting my lines. [03:07] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4419, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-04 01:07:21 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [03:07] I just imagined the name of slackware with lots of patented components. It's crackware. [03:07] mako-sama, lol... http://www.lileks.com/institute/compupromo/2.html this man wishes for that 32+ bit ... ;) [03:08] Azeotrope, rm /etc/asound.state and reboot [03:08] thank you [03:08] this will wipe your alsa settings, so run alsamixer after [03:09] i wonder why they placed colorspace conversion into it's own library. [03:09] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:09] MLanden: cinepaint (a fork from gimp) have been offering 32bits when gimp was still ver 1.0.5 [03:10] I don't know how many years is that [03:11] mako-sama, thanks..was just reading on cinepaint [03:12] anyone know what the tar cmd is to look at the contents and permissions of the tar contents? [03:12] I can't remember what it is [03:13] BadAtom (~epigramma@supporter/active/BadAtom) joined ##slackware. [03:13] Xgates: $ tar -t -v -f archive.tar.gz -z [03:14] ok boy I don't remember it looking like that [03:14] hehe :) [03:14] thanks [03:14] Xgates: Welcome. [03:14] it's -t [03:14] hehe [03:14] Nick change: rednuorrus -> surrounder [03:15] tar txvf [03:15] Azalyn: He asked for command. [03:15] Mel-nix, can make it -tvfz [03:15] Nick change: drib|erif -> fire|bird [03:16] slava_dp: Yes, I know know. Just that I don't like to make it look cryptic. [03:16] run it as -tvfz how? 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[03:22] Ohhhh got a few messy syms too hehe [03:22] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-162-131.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:22] should I change change absolute/messy links to relative ? [03:23] jac0b_ (~sixx@212.183.140.5) joined ##slackware. [03:24] oh mr alphageek I'm playing with that symlinks.... ;p [03:24] could use some of your Pro opinion here :) [03:25] or anyone else for that matter... [03:25] http://aplawrence.com/Basics/symlinks.html [03:25] is that the app? [03:25] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:26] honestly, bad naming convention there. they should've chosen something a bit more unique. :P [03:26] Azeotrope (~JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [03:26] Azalyn: yeah that looks like it, I got it here and built it into a slackpack [03:26] http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/utils/file/symlinks-1.4.tar.gz [03:26] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:27] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.79.154) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:27] slava_dp: still the same. [03:27] what bad naming convention where? [03:27] Xgates, make a slackbuild! :) [03:27] yeah whipped up something for it [03:27] Azeotrope, alsa error message, or no sound? [03:28] slava_dp: are you saying make one cause I did :) [03:28] slava_dp: error - http://pastebin.com/E8Fe0Ggv [03:28] I always put all my src into packs to install [03:28] Azeotrope, try 'alsaconf' [03:29] tried it [03:29] it configs ok but still no sound, even after reboot [03:30] the thing is firefox has sound. also kde [03:30] Action: slava_dp has no clue then [03:32] ok, thank you. [03:32] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [03:32] Nick change: itneciteR -> Reticenti [03:33] you can install OSS from SBo and solve your alsa problems radically :-) [03:33] thankfully we now have a choice of sound systems again. [03:35] isn't OSS obsolete? my understanding was that ALSA is the only choice [03:35] so boys and girls is 'symlinks -c' safe? [03:35] Azeotrope, OSSv3 is obsolete. OSSv4 outperforms ALSA pretty much. [03:35] Azeotrope: alsa is linux only, bluh [03:35] anyone using this app? [03:36] but v4 is not in the kernel. [03:36] I'm surprised that Pat has never put together a nice symlink app Slackware certified :) [03:36] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.40.196) joined ##slackware. [03:37] OSS is a choice, apart from the OSS-emulation that ALSA does [03:37] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:37] OSSv4 does ALSA emulation too by the way. but it's better to use v4 natively of course. [03:37] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-207-68-51-191.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: L8R,all...take care!! [03:37] well, i'm compiling OSS now [03:38] slava_dp: heh, didn't know that [03:38] should toy around with it sometime [03:38] OSS had a rocky road in the linux kernel, they made some piss-poor decisions in their past and have since corrected them [03:38] the kernel is still suspicious of them though :) [03:39] only politics right ? [03:39] open sourceness [03:40] guys, I have this GSM, 3G-EDGE modem that has drivers and software only for win32. any ideea how I could use it on linux to have internet? [03:40] gh0st (~gh0st@c-98-224-82-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:41] there should be tutorials on googol. [03:41] it kinda lacks [03:42] Action: slava_dp setups gsm modems using pppsetup with the right init lines. [03:42] and your operator should have the required init lines on their website. 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[06:51] wdyy (~yy64@123.80.92.11) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [06:53] damn plasma is so flaky still [06:57] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-1-116.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:58] Roin (~florian@p5B2BF73F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:08] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:10] addikt1ve (~addikt1ve@unaffiliated/addikt1ve) joined ##slackware. [07:10] hi :) [07:10] I'm looking for a way to install a chrooted slackware from archlinux [07:11] is it possible? [07:11] you are chroot into slackware? [07:12] ? [07:12] I'm currently running archlinux [07:12] and I want to install slackware into a chroot [07:12] ifaik you can just extract the packages to /mnt/slackware/ [07:12] then chroot in and configure stuff [07:13] mmh [07:13] I don't know how slack works [07:13] I'll just read the doc [07:13] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-429112.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:13] ^^ [07:13] well, I already began ^^ [07:13] where can I find the packages? [07:14] Installing Slackware into a chroot is not hard. The only question would be if Slackware runs under the Arch kernel [07:14] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-429633.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:14] alienBOB: well, I'll tell you [07:14] just tell me how to pass the "not hard" step :p [07:15] That is the bit which devides slackers from non-slackers [07:16] I found absolutely *no doc* about chrooting a slack [07:16] http://slackworld.berlios.de/2007/chroot_howto.html [07:17] also http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=90988 [07:17] First download the directory tree with packages to your current directory. Then (assuming your current directory has the package directories a, ap, d, e, f, ..., xap, y and your chroot will be /slackroot) you issue the command "installpkg --root /slackroot */*.t?z" [07:17] You just need to install the SLackware pkgtools in Arch... [07:18] that was the point [07:18] I'm not confident with that [07:18] despite that there's a pkgtools package for Arch [07:18] (in the arch user repo) [07:18] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) joined ##slackware. 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[07:56] super duper priority [07:56] hahah [07:57] over nine thousand [07:57] and what facility would you use? [07:57] kr_eten (~quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [07:58] info ftw [07:59] i would use user.info [07:59] hi, there might be a problem in sqlite slackbuild for slack 12.1 when executing the script it fails with ldopen/close/err... undefined symbol [07:59] and then use LSD's suggestion and bump it up to prioritiy 9234 [07:59] I'm thinking towards local{1-7}.info [07:59] kr_eten, exact error in pastebin./com [08:00] well. i have edited it and now i wait to see if it fails again. so I will paste it later [08:00] i can't wait [08:01] this is better than a good hitchcock film [08:01] ok, so you can't help :) [08:01] a ok it fails again [08:02] j0z (unix@189.115.81.31) joined ##slackware. [08:02] j0z (unix@189.115.81.31) left irc: Changing host [08:02] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [08:02] addikt1ve (addikt1ve@unaffiliated/addikt1ve) left ##slackware ("Read error: Connection cut by Hadopi"). [08:02] http://pastebin.com/4zVbgwn8 [08:03] it is barely possible to not have these symbols on my system i think [08:04] full install? [08:04] and i see no -ldl in the linking step [08:04] no [08:04] does niceness prioritize memory usage? [08:05] mrcarrot (~lasse@adsl-46.178-Static.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. [08:05] you should have these in your glibc install though [08:05] raela, niceness is scheduling priority and disk io priority. probably not memory usage. [08:06] anyone know how to find out when a when a match is to be played at wimbeldon? i was trying to find out when venus williams plays next [08:06] crap, okay. thanks [08:06] kr_eten, add "-ldl" to your linker flags [08:06] Roin (~florian@p5B2BF73F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:06] i was just looking what name of the variable was [08:06] LDFLAGS? [08:06] felipe (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [08:06] yah [08:08] is this an old sqlite? [08:08] the strange thing it is approved, so it should be working on other systems... that is why i am "reporting" it [08:08] same version of sqlite as the slackbuild has? [08:09] PingFloyd (~pingfloyd@adsl-64-219-111-4.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [08:10] i am gonna assume that means "no" heh [08:12] well i have used the link from the site [08:12] i do so most of the time :) [08:12] same version? [08:13] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:208:21a:80ff:fee1:9f75) joined ##slackware. [08:13] yes [08:13] not it compiled [08:13] now* [08:13] and linked :) [08:13] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] with what, my suggestion or fixing the version? [08:14] your suggestion [08:14] okay, that'll be $2 [08:14] sorry? [08:14] second argument? [08:14] never mind. [08:14] lol [08:15] echo $2 > /dev/not/funny [08:15] but that _was_ funny, just not for everyone ;) [08:16] poymep (~user@shpd-95-53-157-238.vologda.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:16] your suggestion was exactly what i was going to do, but this does not fix the slackbuild script, and does not explain how it was approved [08:16] well, strange i did not got the joke :) [08:17] what version of sqlite are you compiling? [08:17] asamoah (~caio@190.244.49.108) joined ##slackware. [08:18] 2.6.2 [08:18] the problem seems to be in sqlite makefile of course. setting static=no should add -ldl according to me [08:19] 3.6.2 probably [08:20] 3.6.2 yes [08:20] my mistake :) [08:20] feel free to submit the fix and attribute it to "mancha" [08:21] kr_eten, did you get it? I had something recently not find sqlite too [08:22] that's exactly what I did; pass LDFLAGS="$LDFLAGS -ldl" \ ./configure blahblah [08:23] but, this was an app that was hunting for sqlite on the system, and couldn't find it. this upstream project said it was slackware-specific :/ [08:23] well. your fix is better, I just added "LDFLAGS= -ldl" [08:23] too late [08:23] well. your fix is better, I just added LDFLAGS= -ldl" [08:23] oops [08:23] i already provided the solution so i get attribution [08:23] wrong " place [08:23] huh? [08:24] hu huh [08:24] I don't follow [08:24] well mancha just contribute it yourself :) i see no explanation in the howto on how to submit patches [08:25] and anyway, there should be little users of slackware 12.1 currently [08:25] the sqlite build looked fine; this was again when I was doing a slackbuild for an app that couldn't locate sqlite, even though it was on there [08:26] thrice`, well it fails in sqlite for me this should be because of some flag requiring to check symbols compile time instead of runtime [08:26] quite silly :> [08:26] but there was not -ldl in sqlite build, so it will not link to this itself if it needs it, which is strange [08:27] and if there is unresolved symbols it seems it needs it :) [08:27] now a dead link to pysqlite-2.3.5 source [08:28] a couple other distros seem to use "export LTLINK_EXTRAS="-ldl" when compiling sqlite [08:31] a have not seen this variable anywhere [08:31] but i am far from a distro maintainer :)) [08:31] I wouldn't worry about it :> most things don't really seem to need it, and appending an extra option to LDFLAGS is ok for the picky things [08:32] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. 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[08:41] well [08:43] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:44] ananke (~ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:44] bosth (~ben@88.235.131.90) joined ##slackware. [08:45] BlackLinux (~Undergrou@121.54.29.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:46] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:208:21a:80ff:fee1:9f75) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [08:49] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:208:21a:80ff:fee1:9f75) joined ##slackware. [08:53] poymep (~user@shpd-95-53-157-238.vologda.ru) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [08:53] nachox (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [08:53] R0xihcxin (~mrspwn@168-103-63-242.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:54] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.7.55.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:00] Roin (~florian@p5B2BCF76.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:01] stuart__ (~stuart@175.137.76.44) joined ##slackware. [09:02] Nick change: stuart__ -> stu_ [09:03] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [09:04] johndee (~id@93-81-70-11.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:04] do someone know about xmpp/jabber channel for slackware support? :) [09:04] huh!#@# [09:04] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:04] jabber rooms suck. irc ftw! [09:04] jabber is a chat application, rephrase the question for $100, please [09:05] I only use Jabber for normal IM with single persons [09:05] ._. [09:05] mancha, take two? lol [09:05] can i buy a vowel? [09:07] what is jabber? lol [09:07] i doubt jabber is an application, i thing it is a network [09:07] and xmpp is the protocol [09:07] And Pidgin is a client with support for the xmpp protocoll which makes you able to chat using Jabber :D [09:08] slava_dp, why sucks? [09:08] for starters, its got a bad name [09:08] kr_eten, I said, jabber _rooms_ suck. [09:09] Action: slava_dp is a jabber user too [09:09] Action: Roin somehow wonders why only geeks use it ._. [09:09] jabber started off as a protocol/application [09:09] well anyway less spam that way ^_^ [09:09] it might have morphed into a spec at some point [09:09] i stand by my earlier misunderstanding [09:09] slava_dp, ok "why jabber rooms sux?" :) [09:09] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:09] Roin, cause only geeks understand the value of software freedom. [09:10] BlackLinux (~Undergrou@121.54.29.50) joined ##slackware. [09:10] That is probably true [09:10] how do i configure the madwifi-driver? [09:10] i dunno, how do you? [09:10] so i can install the madwifi-0.9.4 [09:10] by uninstalling it? [09:10] well that's why im asking [09:10] because i dont have a idea.. [09:10] well, irc is a geek protocol these days too (everyone else uses skype, which is not a chat at all) :) [09:11] i'm sure theres a readme somewhere [09:11] thanks skywise [09:11] :) [09:11] madwifi 0.9.4 is older than a hell [09:11] lol [09:11] BlackLinux: someone asked (before you left) why you can not just use the athk5 or athk9 driver instead? [09:11] if you gonna use madwifi, you need to svn that puppy [09:11] what's the latest? [09:11] irc is totally geekish, ordinary people don't even know what that is. [09:11] well if i use athk5 or 9 [09:12] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:12] its my chip is not supported. [09:12] ordinary people don't know what alot of stuff is [09:12] i have a ar5005gs [09:12] Black, get madwifi svn [09:12] svn? [09:12] wait [09:12] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:13] i wait for no one...keep up [09:13] opps [09:13] sorry [09:13] :) [09:14] here, http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/madwifi-0.9.4-current.tar.gz [09:14] ananke (~ananke@inferno.bioinformatics.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [09:14] pprkut, yes [09:15] though i'd probably go with http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/madwifi-trunk-current.tar.gz [09:15] i already get the 0.9.4 [09:15] jrodger (~jrodger@27.32.19.10) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:15] and i download the madwifi-driver [09:15] 0.9.4 is for kernel 2.6.24. [09:15] aw. [09:16] Black, get the second link [09:16] im using 2.6.33 [09:16] ok [09:16] what i gave you is the code on Jun 20th 2010 [09:16] i need to order some chipset fans, you guys have any preferences? [09:17] Skywise, I prefer passive cooling [09:17] heavy io gets my north bridge too hot [09:17] alisonken1noc (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:17] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [09:18] well [09:18] not really geeks [09:18] ill just install this one right? [09:18] the trunk one [09:18] thrice`: heh, I just had a look a few days ago and saw that sqlite wasn't found, but didn't really care at that time [09:18] people after 1985 are the ones who lost out on IRC [09:18] born* [09:18] no, don't start the geek nerd debate [09:18] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-rteigjcbrlbvqoxi) joined ##slackware. [09:18] Black, aye [09:18] hah, black eye [09:18] BlackLinux, you may want to use madwifi slackbuilds from SBo and update them for the trunk version. [09:18] that way you'll get clean packages. [09:19] hmm [09:19] the madwifi0.9.4 or the driver? [09:19] anyone see guax lately, theres flooding around him again [09:19] madwifi driver i mean [09:20] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/madwifi-driver/ http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/madwifi-tools/ [09:20] they both use the same source file, just update the version to 'trunk-current' and it should work. [09:21] I have an AR5001X+ which is not listed as supported by ath5k: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k#supported_chips ... and yet, I am using ath5k. [09:22] caixabox_ (c90765a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.7.101.162) joined ##slackware. [09:22] well.. [09:22] here comes the how-to part. [09:22] xD [09:22] Jdif (~Jdif@mon75-3-82-67-194-134.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:24] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [09:25] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:25] 168c:0013 is what I have, and that is mentioned on that page. [09:26] what should i install first? [09:26] BlackLinux, did you even try running the card using ath5k? [09:26] if you don't use ath5k we are going to lynch you! [09:26] j/k but it sure seems like it innit [09:26] Show us the /sbin/lspci -ns line for your card. [09:26] because rob0 and slava see no alternative to ath5k, it is LAW [09:27] Madwifi is broken on kernels past 2.6.24 [09:27] hah [09:27] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:27] i get wonderful comms on my "broken" madwifi [09:27] Herman (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:27] the trunk should work [09:27] really what should i use? [09:27] i wish other shit were as broken, so the quality would be good. [09:27] You should answer what I asked you. [09:27] the trunk athk5 [09:27] Black, use the trunk i gave you already [09:28] and quit listening to everyone who offers an opinion [09:28] hahaha [09:28] ok ok [09:28] afterwards try out ath5k, then make a choice. [09:28] BlackLinux, answer rob0's question already. [09:28] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [09:28] wait [09:28] you're not being pulled in enough directions [09:28] mancha is the troll today :) [09:30] pprkut, I have a slackbuild in git history, if you are interested :> [09:30] otherwise it's too confusing, use madwifi, use trunk, use ath5k, lspci, model, chipset, slackbuild, etc [09:30] holy f*ck [09:30] can we try to confuse him a little more, innit? [09:30] yeah, instead, just buy something with a newer chipset on it [09:30] >.< [09:30] dont please.. [09:31] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:31] hahaha [09:31] caixabox_ (c90765a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.7.101.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:31] Action: slava_dp :-D [09:31] im really frustrated about this one XD [09:31] thrice`: I have one too now, just a quick and dirty version though. I might have a look ones it goes into a more final state :) [09:32] BlackLinux did not answer me. Last chance: 13:24 < rob0> Show us the /sbin/lspci -ns line for your card. [09:32] i dont see anythin important here [09:32] rob0: what timezone is this? [09:32] but you don't know how to fix it [09:33] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [09:33] try "/sbin/lspci" first, then "/sbin/lspci -ns 04:02.0" or whatever you need in place of 04:02.0 [09:33] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.7.55.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:33] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:33] sahko: UTC [09:34] never seen it before 'me -3' [09:34] _RadioHead (~DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:34] sahko, summertime is UTC+3 [09:35] I'm -5, but the server is UTC, and I do not set TZ before running irssi. [09:35] aha! [09:35] (I do set TZ for mutt.) [09:36] sahko, aren't you on summertime now? [09:36] yeah, supposingly [09:36] EET or EEST? :) [09:36] i suspect the whole northern hemisphere is [09:37] I'm EEST now, which is UTC+3 [09:37] but thats just me [09:37] slava_dp: yeah we're in the same [09:37] DarkLinux (~Undergrou@121.54.29.50) joined ##slackware. [09:37] BlackLinux (~Undergrou@121.54.29.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:37] >.< [09:37] Skywise, afaik not all countries use summertime. [09:37] whats eet and eest [09:37] didnt it used to be -2 and -1? when did that change? [09:37] option requies an argument -- ' s ' [09:37] eastern europe? [09:37] East European [Summer] Time [09:38] k [09:38] @rob0 option requires an argument -- 's' [09:38] DarkLinux, what does? [09:38] lspci [09:39] i usually just go by gmt +/- with europe [09:39] no one ever seems to know the timezone names, like in north america [09:39] everyone knows, est,cst,mst,pst [09:39] i dont even own a watch :p [09:39] srsly? I don't. [09:40] eastern, central, mountain,pacific [09:40] For mutt I use TZ=US/Central [09:40] good to know. [09:41] great, the gf is flyin home from the worst trip in her life and now its gonna be a heat index over 100' and severe thunderstorms when she gets in [09:41] DarkLinux: the -s option is the Slot, the first token on the lines of raw "/sbin/lspci" output. [09:41] BlackLinux (~Undergrou@121.54.29.50) joined ##slackware. [09:42] BlackLinux: the -s option is the Slot, the first token on the lines of raw "/sbin/lspci" output. [09:42] I'm sure it's explained in the man page. [09:42] DarkLinux (~Undergrou@121.54.29.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:42] im quite a beginner.. [09:43] sorry if i cant understand much of the technical terms.. [09:43] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [09:43] its ok, we might not even be right [09:44] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-199.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:44] BlackLinux, run 'lspci -nn' and pastebin the output. [09:44] ok [09:44] ah, nn, better [09:45] rob0, explained in the manpage ;) [09:45] yeah, but I only RTFM when I need something. I am fine. [09:46] so far from the truth [09:46] lspci -nn | grep Atheros [09:46] rob0: thankyou so much for the alt+. tip... it has increased my productivity 50% ! =P [09:46] Skywise: est is -5 hours from utc, central is -6, mtn is -7, pacific is -8; subtract 1 hour for daylight savings time effective till nov [09:46] phrag, cool. [09:46] whatiz alt+. ? [09:47] 04:02.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0013] (rev 01) [09:47] last argument completion in bash [09:48] BlackLinux: what we are interested in is the PCI ID, in my case it's "168c:0013". [09:48] DarkLinux (~Undergrou@121.54.29.50) joined ##slackware. [09:48] sorry [09:48] phrag, now, it's going to increase my productivity also. nice tip. I always used $_ for the last argument, but that's not editable. [09:48] @rob0 [09:48] what would you like to know? [09:49] are any of these CFLAGS likely to cause problems on an i7? ... "-march=core2 -msse4 -mcx16 -mpopcnt -msahf -O2 -pipe" [09:49] Action: slava_dp facepalms [09:49] rob0++ [09:49] i got a atheros AR5001x [09:49] johndee (~id@93-81-70-11.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:49] BlackLinux (~Undergrou@121.54.29.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:49] slava_dp: also, @ host completion is a new one i foudn the otherday, so.. ssh root@ [09:49] DarkLinux: what we are interested in is the PCI ID, in my case it's "168c:0013". [09:50] ok [09:50] erm, s/core2/native [09:50] phrag, that's for /etc/hosts hosts, right? [09:50] but still nice. [09:50] slava_dp: yes, will look in /etc/hosts for completion [09:50] um, I never ssh into root anywhere [09:50] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:50] yeh, it doesnt work for * internet hosts =P [09:51] 168c:0013 [09:51] heh, that might take awhile =P [09:51] @rob0 168c:0013 [09:51] phrag, no, I mean they could parse .ssh/known_hosts or something [09:51] rob0: we do at work.. as it would be a nightmare otherwise [09:51] DarkLinux: that is the same one I have. Why did ath5k not work? [09:51] well i didn't install anything yet [09:52] i dont want to su on 400+ machines =P [09:52] DarkLinux, ath5k works out of the box. did you even try to configure wifi? [09:52] DarkLinux: if you want an impartial opinion on ath5k vs. madwifi, ask #madwifi and the madwifi project wiki. [09:52] heh, really ? [09:52] so what should i use? madwifi or athk5? [09:52] ^^ [09:53] maco: Hey! Not cool comin' on my home turf and talkin' about me behind me back! [09:53] Action: phrag slaps maco [09:53] I told you ath5k. mancha told you madwifi. Ask #madwifi [09:53] hahaha [09:54] You might have to wait awhile for an answer there [09:54] what is more stable? [09:54] well i will go with ath5k [09:54] You're using Slackware 13.1 and 2.6.33.4? [09:54] yeah [09:54] DarkLinux, *everyone* uses ath5k. it works out of the box. what else do you need? [09:55] ath5k works out of the box, madwifi *might* work if you jump thru hoops. [09:55] except mancha, who apparently uses madwifi :D [09:55] And gives bad advice, it seems. [09:56] Feature-wise I think ath5k is caught up with madwifi by now. [09:57] The one I pasted here is my access point (using hostapd(8).) [09:57] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [09:57] rob0, ah, so ath5k can be used in ap mode now? nice [09:57] Alan_Hicks: it was ME talking behind your back. [09:57] where could i get a ath5k? [09:58] Do you know what "works out of the box" means? [09:58] nope [09:58] its in da kernel [09:58] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:208:21a:80ff:fee1:9f75) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:58] It means, you configure your wireless and go. [09:59] rob0: Well I've come to expect that from you! [09:59] bosth (~ben@88.235.131.90) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:59] could you teach me how. [09:59] Alan_Hicks: Unfortunately I said something not quite unflattering about you. I am sorry. [09:59] caixabox_ (c90765a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.7.101.162) joined ##slackware. [09:59] this reminds me of http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1973 [09:59] im not quite famillar about those things.. [10:00] DarkLinux, get wicd from the extra/ directory on the slackware media, and install it. it's a network manager that will manage your wifi. [10:00] uva (as@111-240-206-115.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:01] and read the documentation that comes with it [10:01] there wasn't much documentation IIRC [10:01] theres a README.SLACKWARE [10:01] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.7.55.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:02] rob0: Apology accepted. Now please, in the future, remember to trash my name whenever the opportunity presents itself. [10:02] I will, I really will, I promise. You bastard. [10:03] get a ... erm. [10:03] could you guide me installing it?.. [10:03] DarkLinux, man installpkg [10:03] and read the slackbook. [10:03] Slackbook [10:04] also man slackpkg [10:04] ok [10:05] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:05] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:208:21a:80ff:fee1:9f75) joined ##slackware. [10:06] seriously wtf #irssi [10:07] i was linked to the irssi faq, which says "Modify the window-line in statusbar section in config file" then the #irssi topic says "Do *not* edit the config file by hand" [10:07] am i supposed to use my feet? [10:08] uva (as@111-240-233-192.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:09] isw (~i@static-71-252-134-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:09] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.7.55.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:09] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [10:11] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.mimer.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:11] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. [10:11] phrag, noobfarmed that ;) [10:11] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [10:11] hehe [10:12] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.7.55.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [10:14] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [10:17] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:17] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.7.55.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:21] have i been christened the defender of all things madwifi? :) [10:23] bosth (~ben@88.235.131.90) joined ##slackware. [10:24] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:24] ReiserFS (~reiser@201.47.190.67) joined ##slackware. [10:24] no [10:24] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. 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[10:37] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:37] phrag: hahaha [10:37] Alan_Hicks: you can see it, it's not behind your back [10:38] has the hominid from the ocean release numerals two-zero-fiver been out long? [10:39] aquaman has an album? [10:39] maco: It is if I find out about it only 12 hours later. [10:40] Alan_Hicks: well what were ya doin away from the internet? [10:41] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.7.55.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:41] Driving home? That's no excuse. Get a 3g wireless connection and a heads-up display in the truck. [10:41] hi folks [10:42] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:43] maco: Do you really wanna know? [10:44] Alan_Hicks: probably not [10:45] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [10:45] alan is totally g rated dude [10:45] Man I can't wait to go home tonight. [10:45] i have days like that [10:47] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:47] has the simian from the great salt walter II.0.V been released for a while? [10:48] theres an aquamonkey? [10:49] cr3 (1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:49] hi [10:50] if i don't have such option in bios, how do i change the frequency of my laptop's cpu? [10:50] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:50] replace it [10:50] bios? [10:50] the laptop [10:50] what for [10:51] cause it can't change your cpu's frequency [10:51] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [10:51] isn't that why you came in? [10:51] Get to sleep in my own bed for a change... [10:51] Get some tobacco that's actually fresh... [10:51] quit braggin about your sex life [10:51] heh, down to scraps? [10:52] phrag: Atlanta fuckin' blows! The chew up here is expensive, and has sat on the shelf sometimes for months. [10:52] how can cpu have no frequency/overclocking possibility [10:52] i hate when your down to your final baccy scraps, and make a rolly.. only for it all to fall out, then you dont realise and the whole paper goes up in flames in your face.. that's awesome [10:52] because laptops custom built [10:53] not piece built like desktops [10:53] you can often replace memory and hds, but not much else [10:53] i'd like it not to overheat so much and make the fan working less frequently :P [10:53] or at different speed [10:54] you want cpu_freq scaling [10:54] you'll also want to blow out the vents and make sure they're not clogged while in use [10:54] cpufreq-set doesnt work [10:54] in /proc/cpuinfo you should have 'Stepping' supported [10:54] i should probably try that [10:55] if you not got stepping, then you are perhaps missing a kernel module or some acpi stuff [10:55] phrag, "stepping : 1" ... is this "true" or "1 setting of stepping == no stepping"? :P [10:55] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [10:56] erm.. i guess it means just 1 step [10:56] so effectively, no stepping [10:56] solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:56] that is a proc parameter [10:56] nvision (~nvision@2001:638:807:208:21a:80ff:fee1:9f75) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:57] yeh, i've got stepping: 13 on my dell laptop [10:57] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [10:58] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:58] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:58] isw (~i@static-71-252-134-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:58] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [10:58] well, i see why this match is the longest in wimbeldon history [10:58] these guys suck an no one can break serve [10:58] or if they break it, then they get broken right back [10:59] so does that mean linux is not capable of performing cpu scaling, or does that mean that even if i update bios or something i still won't be able to change CPU frequency? [10:59] this isn't incredible tennis, its boring [10:59] i think it means you're not finished configuring it [10:59] qneo (d551be0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.81.190.11) joined ##slackware. [11:00] Herman (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [11:00] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:00] isw (~i@static-71-252-134-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] what does stepping represent? [11:01] one small step for a cpu, one giant step for a core [11:02] *rimshot* [11:02] it runs slower by the stepping factor [11:03] what's that mean in engrish? [11:03] think of it as idle loops between processing an instruction [11:03] thats not what it is, but what its like [11:03] isw (~i@static-71-252-134-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:04] are you shittin' me? [11:04] no [11:04] i thought it was part of the release specs, ie a revision number. [11:04] its really got more to do with instructions per clock [11:05] i thought it was the revision of the stepper used in the burning of the die [11:05] can you explain this loops between instructions thing and/or provide a link? [11:05] oh [11:06] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [11:06] llucio (~irchon@200.162.6.13) joined ##slackware. [11:06] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware. [11:06] how do i use cpuspeed to do something clever [11:06] llucio (~irchon@200.162.6.13) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:07] mancha, you're thinking stepping level [11:08] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:08] isw (~i@static-71-252-134-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:08] we're discussing "stepping" as reported in /proc/cpuinfo [11:08] what are you talking about? [11:08] rrh (~foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [11:09] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-429633.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: I shouldn't really be here - dircproxy 1.2.0 [11:09] xiaodong (~xiaodong@114.249.29.151) joined ##slackware. [11:12] caixabox_ (c90765a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.7.101.162) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:12] anyone have an i7 use custom CFLAGS? [11:12] is that apple? [11:12] intel core i7 [11:13] that the reason some stepping runs cooler is because they have different clock cycles for instructions and generate less heat [11:13] Skywise i have no idea what you're saying any longer :) [11:13] thats ok [11:13] i kinda tired of it anyway [11:14] if you'd like to start over i'm all ears otherwise i'll file this under "static" :) [11:14] phrag, http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Safe_Cflags/Intel#Core_i7_and_Core_i5.2C_Xeon_55xx [11:14] no, i think we should just let it drift off to posterity [11:14] yusuff (~yusuff@94.122.142.122) joined ##slackware. [11:14] but the record should show it was just noise so people reading the logs won't get confused by what you said. [11:14] he's gonna clean out his airvents anyway [11:14] mtkoan (~mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:15] theres a record? [11:15] always! [11:15] mtkoan (~mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) joined ##slackware. [11:16] thrice`: yeh, that's what i was following, thanks... wanted to check if any of those are a bad idea [11:16] from a solaris system connecting to a nfs share on a slackware 13 system, why would dd be able to create a a file > 2 GB, but informix database backup utilities (ontape) would not? [11:17] CFLAGS="-march=native -msse4 -mcx16 -mpopcnt -msahf -O2 -pipe" [11:17] that's what i'm using for an i7 [11:17] cr3 (1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:17] Nick change: NaCl -> SpanishInquisitr [11:18] hey, i wasn't expecting the spanish inquisition [11:19] does anyone? [11:19] phrag: I have xeon e5520s but haven't touched CFLAGs :P [11:20] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [11:21] anyone here a qemu guru? [11:21] yeh, well i never have before, but i would like to compare the performance difference building full VLC using those flags against standard [11:21] call me a ricer, but i'm interested =P [11:21] phrag, you're building vlc, ayup? [11:21] yeh, built it twice lastnight =P [11:21] do the flags just affect compiling, or how a program runs as well? [11:21] it's a monster lol [11:21] Action: raela is a newb [11:21] for stereo sound? [11:21] building twice i mean [11:22] raela: well how it runs.. extra hooks/performance tuning [11:22] mancha: haha [11:22] monster because of the number of deps, or otherwise? [11:22] hrm.. though a lot of tools are provided as binaries anyway, so bleh.. might not be worth it for me [11:22] better not mess with what isn't broken [11:22] yeh, using alien's buildscripts.. which compiles deps into the build [11:23] i don't like that setup, building things in. [11:23] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:23] i like it for VLC.. not for anything else [11:23] what makes vlc different in this regard?> [11:24] it will still work after you upgrade other crap [11:24] it has a lot of dependencies to support all of the formats it can play [11:24] yeh, less likely to break when i upgrade in future [11:24] right because it is still using outdated stuff that wasn't upgraded. how is this good? [11:25] well it' using what it was build against at the time [11:25] cause not everything advances in step [11:25] the reason you upgrade x264 for example is because of feature improvements, presumably [11:25] why would you want to forego that? [11:25] dChr (dchr@freelancer.ceid.upatras.gr) left ##slackware. [11:25] in the past, i have upgraded vlc often... which means i update x264 just as often [11:25] jesus christ, its 65/65 in the 5th set [11:26] someone just shoot one of those guys [11:26] i am usually running the latest version of x264 and latest version of vlc [11:26] in case one slips, vlc has it's pre-compiled module [11:26] i understand the benefits of self-containment if you're deploying this massive build all over and don't wanna deal with building the deps locally. [11:26] thats the way i see it anyway, correct me if i'm wrong [11:26] but when you finally get it working, you don't wanna mess with it [11:27] dunno, i am asking out of genuine curiosity...static builds aren't my thing, personally, so i wouldn't do it. [11:27] yeh, plus i want to run one build script, go to bed, and wake up with a nice full build of vlc, without worryuing about the environment it's being installed in [11:28] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:28] i dont do static for anything else, vlc just has so many deps that arent included with slackware (for legal reasons or whatever) [11:28] yeah, vlc is essentially a stack of jello cubes [11:28] so nice to keep stock slack, and custom build vlc [11:28] pireau (1000@208.92.18.106) joined ##slackware. [11:28] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [11:28] witch DNS addresses I need to write in pppoe-setup? [11:29] cleaner in that sense, as you don't have 20+ extra packages floating about on your machine, which you would have to keep track of etc [11:29] and how can I see my DNS addresses please someone help me :( [11:29] ne7work: 3 [11:29] phrag what? [11:29] phrag but things get used by many things [11:29] for example, lame, it is used by mplayer, by ffmpeg, by vlc, etc. [11:29] ne7work: if you want dns resolution, i assume you will want your nameserver listed in /etc/resolv.conf [11:30] these guys can't even get the ball into play [11:30] they haven't had a volley yet [11:30] yeh, well i dont use mplayer, and also staticly build ffmpeg (to include the restricted formats) [11:30] ack [11:30] you statically build ffmpeg too?!? [11:31] actually, that's a lie... i've not built it for awhile =P [11:31] i think i used to though during testing [11:31] Nick change: SpanishInquisitr -> NaCl [11:31] i have many things built against lame, when a new lame comes out as long as it is not an abi-breaker i upgrade and all the things linked against it are magically using a new lame :) [11:32] for me, the less spurious packages i have floating about the better.. easier to maintain, cleaner [11:32] thats the benefit of dynamic linking [11:32] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:32] xMDKx (~mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-rteigjcbrlbvqoxi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:32] both methods are fine =) [11:32] smoke break =P [11:32] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [11:32] I just need to make PPPoE connection on my slackware 13.1? [11:33] phrag's a diplomat! :) [11:33] ok, gotta get dinner ready... [11:33] also, if anytone knows how to get the network displayed on status bar in irssi i would be most appreciative =P [11:33] phrag: I show the lag here. [11:33] phrag: as in latency to the server. [11:34] yeh i got that i think, but 'network' doesnt seem to be a valid statusbar meter [11:34] think i need to hack on the config file after all =P [11:35] phrag: umm. [11:37] yusuff (~yusuff@94.122.142.122) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:38] xsamurai (~jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) joined ##slackware. [11:38] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.7.55.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:38] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:39] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [11:40] i don't use irssi, but i show channel (network, nic) [users] [modes]: topic [11:40] yanni [11:40] no [11:41] you remind me of a redhat 3.x user [11:41] if that's what the version was with all the vulnerable wuftpd [11:41] which one? [11:41] the one i rooted a million times and used to DoS efnet servers back in the days of my terribleness [11:42] we know what you did, yes. [11:42] damn, i was a pretty bad kid [11:42] that's the only thing i can say i wish i could take it back [11:42] i should've used that power to take out thumbs!@ [11:42] na im kidding [11:42] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:42] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) left irc: [11:43] thumbs, my slack64 current upgrade worked perfectly on my mail server, thanks for asking [11:43] phrags: I see: [11:37][thumbs(+i)][9:freenode/##slackware(+Pcnt)][Lag: 0.09][Act: 6,7,11] [11:49] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:49] Dongdong (~Dongdong@114.249.29.151) joined ##slackware. [11:50] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [11:50] Dongdong (~Dongdong@114.249.29.151) left irc: Client Quit [11:51] finally its over [11:52] Skywise, your purchase of every single yanni album is done ? [11:53] yes, and deleted already, i love digital music [11:54] hah [11:54] nachox__ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [11:55] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [11:56] nachox__ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Client Quit [11:57] nachox_ (~imarambio@200.68.83.121) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:59] i'll delete your life foo [11:59] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [11:59] qneo (d551be0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.81.190.11) left ##slackware. [11:59] sad part is yanni still gets more tang then you jeev [12:00] xsamurai, that's cause i dont cheat on my girlfriend ? [12:00] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:00] i'm not fortunate enough to be like you, to have a straight girlfriend but be bisexual and she being ok to let you sleep with other men [12:00] :> [12:01] no cause you dont have {chest hair, bulging crotch, long yanniyish hair} [12:01] lol! [12:02] just jeev looks like carl pilkington is no reason to say he can't get women, carl says he does all the time tho no one believes him [12:03] Nick change: bgs000 -> bgs100 [12:03] Skywise i look better than windows 7 [12:03] oh [12:03] i'm sorry to hear that [12:04] Skywise, yanni or die [12:04] that's the new slogan on the wristbands [12:04] how about yanni dies [12:04] rafu (rafu@77.53.11.107) left ##slackware. [12:04] :O [12:06] how about "jeev yanni" [12:07] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.7.55.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:08] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [12:10] pnq (asdf@AC819F36.ipt.aol.com) joined ##slackware. [12:11] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:12] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:13] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [12:13] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.11.67.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:14] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [12:22] Action: phrag has network displayed in irssi! =) [12:25] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [12:27] Nick change: evid -> dive [12:34] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:41] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:41] I'm looking to setup an LDAP server on Slackware 13.0, but only the client tools are available in the official package...what's up with that? [12:41] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [12:42] you need pam [12:42] wait, is this windows ldap ? [12:42] and pam is not in default slackware [12:42] pnq (asdf@AC819F36.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:42] err im on drugs , disregard that question as well [12:43] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [12:43] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:f6e4:aeab:c722) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [12:43] openldap [12:43] yeah I know, pam is evil and all that [12:43] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] cr3 (1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:43] but you'll need it [12:43] hi [12:43] to setup ldap [12:43] can i install only openoffice writer instead of everyhitng? [12:44] this howto suggests that I *don't* necessarily need it: http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/10/17/openldap-in-slackware-13-0/ [12:44] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [12:44] You need PAM for slapd? Why? [12:44] cr3, you get the office suite from slackbuilds - otherwise you have to figure out how to compile just writer [12:44] slapd should work fine without pam [12:44] i dont need anything exept oowriter [12:45] i was thinking of windows ldap server with linux clients [12:45] cr3: There's always abiword [12:46] wuts dat [12:46] Another word processor [12:46] bgs100 (57o9@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-rwpfazxzifthafkb) left irc: Quit: Free shells at 57o9.org [12:47] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:48] bgs100 (cheshire@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-vhslpfxuoaduabvn) joined ##slackware. [12:48] bgs100 (cheshire@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-vhslpfxuoaduabvn) left irc: Excess Flood [12:48] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [12:49] well is slapd will work fine without PAM then why is it not included in Slackware? I'm just curious as to why slackware only provides the client tools... [12:50] slackware is already 4G compressed packages as it is - and pat doesn't want to go more than one cd right now [12:50] alisonken1home: xz compression has cleared quite a lot of space [12:50] bgs100 (cheshire@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-lnliargxjqopzuae) joined ##slackware. [12:50] bgs100 (cheshire@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-lnliargxjqopzuae) left irc: Excess Flood [12:50] kr_eten (~quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:50] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [12:50] so you get the building blocks and a desktop with basic slack - then there's slackbuilds.org for the other stuff [12:51] nothing wrong with going to 2 dvds imho [12:51] there's nothing magical about 4.7 gigs... [12:51] so you're saying that the uncompressed 1.5mb slapd wouldn't fit on the DVD iso? [12:52] R0xihcxin (~mrspwn@168-103-63-242.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] so far, you're the minority in asking for slapd :) otherwise you have to ask pat since he controls what goes on the dvd [12:52] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:ed8a:aa0c:72f2) joined ##slackware. [12:52] the slapd binary is ~450K compressed with LZMA Ĵ_Ĵ [12:53] bgs100 (cheshire@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-cdhtxsvltmyqhsop) joined ##slackware. [12:53] bgs100 (cheshire@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-cdhtxsvltmyqhsop) left irc: Excess Flood [12:53] slapd is the ldap implementation? [12:53] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.11.67.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:53] yes AFAIK [12:53] remember, you're not the only one who's asked for something to be included in slack. goes back to "ask pat" [12:53] the server [12:54] 1 sec, I'm gonna check the older slackware versions [12:55] probably a big factor is if pat uses/likes ldap :) [12:55] phrag: you do? [12:55] phrag: how did you manage? [12:55] I thought that was slapd as in slap-d. [12:55] bgs100 (cheshire@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-hexekkttdxsaojtb) joined ##slackware. [12:55] bgs100 (cheshire@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-hexekkttdxsaojtb) left irc: Excess Flood [12:55] :P [12:55] ea_suter, also check the changelogs for the older versions to see if it was removed (if you find it in an older version) [12:57] nope, it appears that before 11.0 even the client tools weren't included [12:58] bgs100 (cheshire@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-jlycofuhsvyelckb) joined ##slackware. [12:58] well guess a Slackbuild is in order then ^_^ [12:59] when you use slackware, do you think you should use a old school IBM keyboard? [12:59] yes, model m keyboards work better [12:59] yup [13:00] I don't have a model M but I do have a "clicky" keyboard [13:00] i do to [13:00] i have special keys near my arrows what can swap terminals [13:00] i can switch tty left and right [13:01] i always liked the xt layout with the function keys on the side [13:01] sinuhe (~sinuhe@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] Nick change: R0xihcxin -> Donut [13:03] cr3 (1000@net-3-230.tpn.ceron.pl) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:03] I have both a Model M, as well as a Das Keyboard II. ;) [13:04] bgs100 (cheshire@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-jlycofuhsvyelckb) left irc: Changing host [13:04] bgs100 (cheshire@unaffiliated/bgs100) joined ##slackware. [13:04] bgs100 (cheshire@unaffiliated/bgs100) left irc: Changing host [13:04] bgs100 (cheshire@gateway/shell/57o9.org/x-jlycofuhsvyelckb) joined ##slackware. [13:04] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-234.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:19] hamcore (rhythm@unaffiliated/msmosso) left ##slackware. [13:19] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:22] does anyone have problems with openoffice where you create a word document with 3 pages, but when you open it in a windows terminal it ends up like 5 pages or something? [13:23] ms office, to be exact [13:24] yeah i always have issues with ms office and docs created in openoffice [13:24] never really looked into, just took it as is [13:25] yarvin (~yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [13:25] LJS (~frank@79.83.235.150) joined ##slackware. [13:27] Hi everybody ! [13:27] SuperPuffy (~puffy@thrall-gw.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] Hi alienBOB. I am back. Have You tested Slackware-Live ? I have made new versions with better in line documentation, and working e-mail... [13:28] Troll alert [13:28] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:28] no not you LJS :) [13:29] rob0: ok - I was wondering ;-) [13:29] Linux is for dumb bitches, flunky PC hackers who tried to clone UNIX on the PC, rather than elite UNIX hackers who ported UNIX to the PC proper (the *BSDs and OpenSolaris) [13:29] OpenBSD blackhole.my.domain 4.7 LAPPY-BIG#0 i386 [13:29] :P [13:29] yeah I could see how you might, so I thought I should clarify. As you can see I was right. [13:29] oh, yeah. him [13:29] also you are all slaves to the Communist Jewish GPL [13:29] :P [13:29] Richard Stallman the kike [13:29] SuperPuffy (~puffy@thrall-gw.warwick.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:30] rworkman / alienBob ^ [13:30] haha [13:30] @ops, have you considered a ban of warwick.net? Anyone else from there in the channel logs? [13:31] i thought channel logs havent been updated since Jan [13:31] rob0: does that work here? [13:31] does what work here? [13:31] "@ops" [13:31] I thought that was a bot thing [13:31] unless slackboy does it [13:32] rob0 first change your nick to sluttyslackgirl to get the ops attention [13:32] "Work" meaning what? I am just trying to address the channel ops. If any of them see it, it worked. :) [13:32] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] In #fedora that actually notifies them. [13:32] I think [13:32] Or maybe they have their clients rigged to see it. [13:32] IDK [13:33] rickabillie (~rickabill@96.24.134.204) joined ##slackware. [13:36] anybody here that can help with installing Adobe Flash in Wolvix? I d/l the tar from Adobe but it only has libflashplayer.so in it, no installer, does 10.1 assume that I already have 10.0 installed? [13:37] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:37] Wolvix is what? [13:38] Slackware-based distro [13:38] LJS (~frank@79.83.235.150) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:38] yea, v12 I believe [13:39] You can try the Slackbuild from SBo, but if it doesn't work, you're on your own. [13:39] qneo (~knao@adsl-dyn74.91-127-163.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [13:39] rickabillie: you put that file in some plugins directory [13:39] And this isn't #wolvix [13:39] I did , it didn't work [13:40] try the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins folder? [13:40] yes, that's the one [13:40] s/folder/directory/ [13:40] didn't work? [13:41] maybe try /usr/lib/firefox/plugins [13:41] rob0: yay windows [13:42] ok, will try, Thanks [13:44] trix`G (~trix420@CPE-24-209-133-6.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:44] hi [13:44] quick question, what is the console command for Slackware's package manager [13:45] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-1-116.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:45] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [13:46] PingFloyd (~pingfloyd@adsl-64-219-111-4.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) left irc: Quit: cya [13:46] phrag (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [13:47] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [13:47] trix`G: there are a few different ones. I cant remember which one was the main one, check out man -k pkg [13:48] trix`G: Or look here. http://www.slackware.com/config/packages.php [13:49] lf4: thank you! [13:49] I come from Gentoo so I started compiling everything from source, but KDE would take a few days that way [13:49] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [13:49] trix`G: gentoo users are not welcome here [13:50] now if you were an Op that would mean something [13:50] :P [13:51] dustybin: what a strange remark [13:51] hey i was joking :P [13:51] good to be home =) [13:51] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [13:51] hmm rekonq 0.4.95 is actually usable [13:52] still a long way to go though [13:52] How difficult is it on Slackware to regress to an earlier kernel version? [13:52] trix`G: ignore dustybin, all are welcome unless they step out of line =) [13:53] ATI's official drivers dropped support for my card, and to use the older drivers I need an older kernel [13:53] trix`G: how old ? [13:53] phrag: Hah, no worries, I am not so easy to get rid of. [13:54] dustybin: dont tell any users they are not welcome here please [13:54] if its 2.4+ you shoudl be fine [13:54] use the opensource driver [13:54] or that [13:54] phrag: i was only joking! [13:54] xsamurai: Yeah it's 2.4+ [13:54] i would go with opensource drivers first [13:54] sahko: The opensource drivers are great... for 2d. 3D however, is awful. And I love Nexuiz [13:54] i dont know what that is but its got a horrible name [13:55] sahko: It's basically a superior version of Unreal Tournement [13:55] dustybin: that's what hoax bombers say in their defence! =P [13:55] Action: dustybin feels guilty [13:55] =P [13:55] and its webpage is full of flash [13:56] rm -rf /home/dustybin/.emotions/guilt [13:56] forgiven [13:56] dustybin (dustybin@wizbox.org) left ##slackware. [13:57] hidden emotions! =P [13:57] of course [13:57] aww lol [13:57] wearing your heart on your sleeve is a BAD idea these days [13:59] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:59] xsamurai (~jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:59] leontopod (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:59] dustybin (~dustybin@wizbox.org) joined ##slackware. [13:59] Action: dustybin recovers /home from backup [13:59] grrr [14:02] lol dusty [14:03] trying to download Slack DVD and utorrent keeps telling me "error device not ready" [14:03] wertik_rus (~wertik@194.154.66.112) joined ##slackware. [14:03] xsamurai (~jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) joined ##slackware. [14:03] it's a (NTFS) partition on my hard drive, how the hell is it "not ready"? [14:05] trix`G: make sure the user and read and write to that device [14:05] *can [14:05] maybe your partition is mounted readonly [14:06] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) joined ##slackware. [14:06] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) left irc: Changing host [14:06] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [14:06] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [14:08] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-72-168.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [14:09] I can read and write to it, it's mounted readwrite, and I'm currently booted into Windows XP (so I can download Slack) [14:09] wow new thunderbird [14:09] xsamurai (~jamonyou@unaffiliated/xsamurai) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:10] it starts downloading it, gets like 1.1MB downloaded then BAM device not ready [14:10] so it's a windows problem? [14:10] leontopod (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) joined ##slackware. [14:11] quite possibly, but one I haven't encountered before [14:11] I'm sure I could get it working in linux, if I could just get this damned DVD downloaded [14:12] mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda6 /mnt/storage [14:12] that's all it would take in linux [14:12] but nooooo [14:13] phrag (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [14:13] so windows is refusing to download linux.... [14:13] fun [14:13] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [14:13] hah pretty much [14:13] it downloads TV shows just fine [14:13] even now? maybe it's a recent error [14:13] hm good point, be right back [14:14] it's really weird that you can download other files to the same disk but you can't download linux. windows isn't that smart [14:14] mrcarrot (lasse@adsl-46.178-Static.ssp.fi) left ##slackware. [14:15] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:15] well yeah, I'm going to try a random torrent and see if the problem is that recent [14:16] otherwise, it has to either be utorrent disliking .iso files, or the tracker for the slackware torrent having problems [14:16] you can download slack via ftp [14:16] nope [14:16] ? [14:16] it's a recent problem, I can't download anything to that partition [14:16] ah... fsck [14:17] yet I can copy, move, and delete just fine [14:17] chkdsk [14:17] ah yes but Windows fsck (scandisk) sucks badly [14:17] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:17] maybe its full? [14:17] I'll see if I can find a bootable linux USB somewhere [14:17] sahko: nope 21G free [14:18] trix`G: try downoading something from the web [14:18] maybe utorrent got the flu [14:19] seems to work from the web [14:19] seems to be utorrent [14:19] hmm [14:22] _dev_null_ (~xtof_pern@ADijon-256-1-5-75.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:23] G4r37h (~anon@87-194-148-203.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:23] G4r37h (anon@87-194-148-203.bethere.co.uk) left ##slackware. [14:24] oh wow [14:24] I figured it out [14:24] yarvin (~yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Quit: yarvin [14:24] it was a PEBKAC error, and now I feel really stupid [14:25] what was it? [14:26] windows, lacking a /dev directory (or any logic) uses C: D: E: etc for partitions [14:27] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:27] well like an idiot I told it to save to D: (the storage partition), but it turns out, D: is my virtual DVD drive and E: is the storage partition [14:27] I forgot that it moves the letters around and always puts the fake DVD drive as D: for some reason. [14:28] gah why can't I just loopback mount an iso to a directory case-by-case in windows :( [14:29] slackware has changed my life, i now no longer have one :D [14:29] hahaha [14:29] Gentoo did that to me, though the install takes like a week straight [14:30] yarvin (~yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:30] i have migrated from debian to slackware, its lasted 4 weeks so far, but its pretty much there now [14:30] luckily Slackware is nearly as awesome, and allows binary installation for the quickness [14:31] i like the way slackware allows you to create packages just how you want them, if you use a distro like ubuntu, you dont have much control of the ready built packages [14:31] ew don't get me started on ubuntu [14:32] I used to like ubuntu to recommend for new linux users, it seemed like a great way to bridge the gap [14:32] then I actually tried to use it myself... [14:32] I actually prefer Windows XP to ubuntu [14:32] phrag (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [14:32] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [14:32] phrag (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [14:32] there are plenty of other distros out there [14:33] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [14:33] I like Ubuntu because it takes almost nothing to have all kinds of newbie-impressing high level niceties installed. Can't stand running it, personally. [14:33] oh yes i know, I keep trying new ones all the time [14:33] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:33] I've been recommending Linux Mint to my newbie friends :) [14:33] what would fedora be like for newbies? [14:33] in fact my gf will have Linux Mint on her mac as soon I as I get back [14:34] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [14:34] If the newbie has a powerful computer and likes eye candy, I usually recommend Sabayon, if not, I usually recommend SuSE [14:34] I don't like fedora, red hat is too corperate for me [14:34] I miss mandrake, before it became Mandriva [14:35] i would try and recommend a distro what trys to keep things vanilla close as possible [14:35] I meant more like Dropbox, and the social web stuff being in that menu. [14:35] ah [14:36] well usually I have to install the distro for them, so I generally take the time in whatever distro I give them to set up all of there social programs and messengers/myspace/facebook/twitter etc, and integrate it into whatever DE they prefer [14:37] I've been using Openbox without any panels, bars, or trays. How's that work for you? is it just a built-in Gnome/KDE thing? [14:37] Hah, I just hand out live cds and tell them to go nuts [14:37] bieffe (~bieffe@60.54.136.165) joined ##slackware. [14:37] then I spend awhile teaching them how to use the graphical package manager in case they need something else, install VLC player and an MP3 decoder, and remind them about 100 times to ONLY install things through the package manager [14:37] bieffe (~bieffe@60.54.136.165) left irc: Client Quit [14:38] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-55-162.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [14:38] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [14:38] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [14:38] yarvin: Doing that to a newbie pretty much gives them a 50/50 chance of giving up in frustration and never trying linux again [14:39] trix`G: what kind of DE integration? [14:39] xiaodong (~xiaodong@114.249.29.151) left irc: Quit: ‚ğ [14:39] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:40] usually into the panels, and set up the person's favorite messenger and social programs to autostart at bootup [14:41] well I give them a live cd and tell them to try it and let me know if they like it. if they like it I'll help them get set up. [14:41] also if the PC can handle KDE4 I set up the transparent onscreen utilities they prefer (forget what they are called, widgets?) [14:42] nvision (~nvision@g231187013.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:42] yarvin: Ohhh yeah I used to keep a customized livedvd with my customizations and personalizations (binary 3d card drivers, mp3 decoder, vlc player, etc) as an ISO for people to try, and burn them a copy upon request [14:42] plasmoids [14:42] that's it [14:42] swedala (swedala@1-1-2-30a.gsn.gbg.bostream.se) left ##slackware. [14:42] though I don't go into as much detail of setting up as you. I explain a few basic things like installing packages and which programs do what... [14:43] hah, I'm trying to learn python just so I can write a bootup script for my livedvd to explain the basics to them for me, without me needing to [14:43] haha nice. [14:44] If you do that, it'll have to be video. People can't read. [14:44] my goal is to eventually make the ultimate newbie liveDVD [14:44] Isn't that what Knoppix is for? [14:44] Slakinit (~quinton@41.123.175.213) joined ##slackware. [14:44] ut: Well I was going for text explanation on the left and video demonstration on the right [14:44] kind of like how Sysrescue CD has console on one side and web on the other [14:45] NaCl: No, Knoppix is not nearly as newbie friendly as I'm going for, and doesn't explain much [14:45] Linux mint actually has a pretty good into for their system. as you start up a dialog pops up directing to documentation and the like. [14:45] I really like it [14:45] intro* [14:46] kind of like a "ok its installed, now what" [14:46] or rather "ok its booted, no what" [14:46] crap have to go [14:46] see you guys [14:46] (emergency) [14:46] trix`G (~trix420@CPE-24-209-133-6.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: [14:47] Nick change: Donut -> nix_chix0r [14:49] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:49] rg3 (~deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [14:51] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-158-79.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[15:21] theblackbox (~sammo@93-97-209-128.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Changing host [15:21] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [15:21] theblackbox (~sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:21] hi all! [15:22] installed slack 13.1 w/ kde [15:22] what a great way to wake up in the morning [15:23] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5505251/frontend2.jpg [15:24] the only problem is amarok it does not play any file and loop throgh the list [15:25] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [15:26] sound works flawless but can´t make amarok work [15:26] noatun also do not work [15:26] Action: alienBOB hates amarok... never found out why people think it is so good [15:27] i don´t :) [15:28] i use audacious or cml (amp, mplayer, ogg123, etc) [15:28] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [15:30] but is strange amarok or noatun do not play any file [15:30] hw setting is ok [15:30] mixer volume is ok [15:31] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [15:31] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:32] Cesarion76: it's just those two that do not play any music? The others (mplayer, ogg123 etc) work? [15:33] everything is flawless exept for those two:) [15:34] alienBOB: everything is flawless exept for those two:) [15:34] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:35] Cesarion76: then try starting amarok and/or noatun in an X terminal so that you can see any errors that are written to the output [15:36] ok giveme a minute i´ll try that one [15:37] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [15:38] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:39] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [15:41] qneo (knao@adsl-dyn74.91-127-163.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [15:41] NO MINUTE FOR YOU. [15:42] six were already taken [15:42] done little trip to wc :) [15:43] i am using a special usb stick image for my joggler, it has a really clever way of correcting usb errors on my stick, how does it do that? [15:43] my usb stick is rock solid since using this image [15:43] alienBOB: got the output [15:44] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:45] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.72.180) joined ##slackware. [15:46] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] alienBOB: can´t notice any error or missed driver. what should i look for? [15:48] Cesarion76: I don't know. IF there are errors, you would have spotted them for certain [15:50] Do these audio files contain "strange" characters? I.e. from a non-western character set ? I remember that at least Amarok used to refuse playing that kind of file in the past [15:51] when playing the list comes "QDir::exists: Empty or Null file name" [15:53] Looks like this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493759 [15:53] What version of Slackware Cesarion76 ? [15:54] I though that bug was fixed already [15:54] slackware 13.1 smp kernel [15:54] sbsdoze (spookywo0k@CPE0012170da58c-CM00080d961284.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [15:54] sbsdoze (spookywo0k@CPE0012170da58c-CM00080d961284.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Changing host [15:54] sbsdoze (spookywo0k@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [15:58] alienBOB: that bug report claims that it is not a bug, not that it was fixed. [15:58] nvision (~nvision@g231187013.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:58] so i guess xconfig for the kernel is still requiring qt3? [15:59] sbs` (~mfd@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [15:59] newb question here.. or well.. noticed something interesting while playing with htop.. processes can switch cores while they're running? they're not 'anchored' to where they started? [15:59] (and qt3 is not on slackware 13.1) [15:59] read comment 22: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493759#c22 [15:59] alienBOB: you hit the spot! the sound files are in NTFS partition. [16:00] KDE 4 is so freaky [16:00] Cesarion76: read the comment i linked [16:00] dartmouth: as always, see /extra/kde3-compat/ [16:00] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) joined ##slackware. [16:01] KaMii (nebulae@91.90.30.50) left ##slackware. [16:01] alienBOB: jus copy some mp3´s and rename 123xx.mp3 and works. Got Sound! [16:01] Good [16:02] alienBOB, given that qt3 and qt4 can exist parallel to each other on a system pretty well, and given that the kernel's xconfig still requires qt3, wouldn't having it be part of the X series of packages make more sense? (as always) [16:02] pnq (asdf@ACA273C6.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:02] (as well as moving kdelibs and including gnomelibs in X/) [16:03] I think using make menuconfig makes more sense, but that's JMO [16:03] raela: interesting, I wouldn't have thought so. [16:03] its what i usually use, i just am a little finnicky about leaving out options with the kernel [16:04] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-429633.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:04] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:04] I guess it makes sense, an application goes to sleep when it's not doing anything, and when it wakes up it is served by any available CPU/core. [16:04] zaltekk: done reading thanks [16:04] rob0: yeah, that's why I asked.. I don't know if I'm misinterpreting something with it.. but it seems so [16:06] sukaeto (~sukaeto@host75-54.student.udel.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:06] i just wasn't sure if there was a reason why qt3 was uninstalled yet, like maybe there was a compatability issue i'll run into later for having it. [16:07] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-158-79.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:08] wertik_rus (~wertik@194.154.66.112) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:08] 13.1 x64 - Does this give an error, or is it just broken on my machine? ruby -r dl -e '' [16:09] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [16:09] also something I find interesting.. a process is using 83% memory, then it spawns 4 threads on other cores.. each of those all show as using 83% memory [16:11] raela: there's this thing called "shared memory" [16:11] all it is telling you is that those spaned processes don't use any memory of their own [16:11] *spawned [16:11] adaptr: I think I remember to prefix my original thing as I am a newb :P but ah, okay [16:11] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.30.50) joined ##slackware. [16:11] KaMii (nebulae@91.90.30.50) left ##slackware. [16:11] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [16:12] fred, ruby: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib64/ruby/1.9.1/x86_64-linux/dl.so: undefined symbol: rb_dl_init_callbacks_5 [16:12] that what you get? [16:12] ?: http://pastebin.com/ivM1YBgb [16:12] yep, that's my error, rebuild fixes [16:14] is the kernel looking for qt3 in a different place than slackware's default package prefix? [16:15] dartmouth, you may need to pass/change qtdir or something [16:15] so what's the deal am I temporarily setting everything to look in qt3 dirs while im working with the kernel and then switching back afterwards, or what? [16:15] use menuconfig instead [16:16] ... [16:16] dartmouth, iirc you get access to more options with menuconfig [16:16] ... [16:16] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.72.180) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:17] tekzilla (~jon@d186222.adsl.hansenet.de) joined ##slackware. [16:18] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:20] dartmouth: did you logoff and log back in after installing the kde3-compat packages? [16:20] The qt3 package installs a profile script that sets QTDIR to the correct value [16:21] ah ha [16:21] ! [16:22] I assume that translates to "no" [16:22] indubitably! [16:23] archiebenedict (~archie@ip68-102-126-202.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:23] yarvin (~yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Quit: yarvin [16:23] i also have a 'best practice' question-- i've been using kdesu to run programs as root in X11, but it's probably safe to assume kdesu isn't the 'best way' to do that. [16:24] unless you're logged into an X session as root, X will not allow root processes access to the X session [16:25] unless you're using kdesu. [16:25] so something like kdesu is almost required to run an X program as root when logged in as a user [16:25] right [16:25] or, set DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY in the root shell [16:25] alisonken1home: how come I can open a term, su, then run kwrite fine then? [16:25] xhost +local:root [16:26] raela, ddi you do something like dive posted or are you running some other window manager? [16:26] dive, use sparingly, eh? [16:26] I'm using fluxbox. works with xeyes as well :P and afaik, I haven't done xhost [16:26] DISPLAY=:bla sudo some_app_which_I_shoudln't_be_running_anyway [16:26] lol sudo [16:27] i've never typed that into any slack system, ever [16:27] Action: sinuhe mentions pam_xauth and ducks [16:27] blasphemy! [16:27] oh interesting, something did a 1870 tty7 Rs+ 31:24 /usr/bin/X :0 -auth /home/heather/.serverauth.185 [16:27] Action: alienBOB sudos a zillion times a day, on Solaris [16:27] under root's ps x [16:27] Necos (~tessai@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-102.Princeton.EDU) joined ##slackware. [16:27] There's also SUSE's sux command (since removed from SLES11) [16:27] i use sudo often.. it's a lot safer than permantly runing as root [16:28] especially on a desktop [16:28] What's wrong with sudo? [16:28] yeah sudo is handy for many things [16:28] yeah i dont think i could log into X as root [16:28] s/could/should [16:28] right [16:28] on servers, i work as root usually [16:29] where can i read more about how displays work in X? [16:29] I occasionally log into X as root - but I have to be doing something specific that requires a couple of tasks to do it [16:29] dartmouth, x.org [16:29] im not reading all of that [16:30] fine [16:30] Action: phrag sudo eat n0mwhich [16:30] lol [16:30] dartmouth, sudo read x.org [16:30] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [16:30] akhe (~akhe@0x573bb4a2.ronqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [16:32] dive, read: timeout(tl;dr) [16:32] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [16:33] dive: I think you're being too optimistic [16:34] very [16:34] s/optimistic/unrealistic/ [16:36] alot of my confusion with learning about X has been that when you check to see what version you have, we have xorg-server-1.7.7, you go on their site and its like...7.4 for the most recent release....and xorg is so many different packages that to learn 'xorg' is some fruitless crusade [16:36] xorg-server is not X - so xorg-server-1.7.7 != X 7.4 [16:36] exactly my confusion; of course it isn't. [16:37] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:37] i just think some kind of slackware-biased orientation to X/Xorg/X11 would be well received. [16:38] im saying that under the assumption that we group the parts of Xorg a little differently than Xorg does. [16:38] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:38] i wouldn't know, im ignorant to X [16:39] Action: dartmouth puts up the 'will work for clue' sign [16:40] Don't draw attention... [16:40] Where did that assumption come from? [16:41] I think you *should* start reading about x.org architecture first [16:41] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] hello [16:41] alienBOB, i'd love to, it's just so massive. i can understand why alot of OSS classes don't go too far down that rabbit hole. [16:42] it would have to be a whole separate class [16:42] The Guru Labs class I'm teaching today has a large chapter on X11. [16:42] rickabillie (~rickabill@96.24.134.204) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:42] thanks for pointing out that my education sucked. [16:43] education doesn't stop. If you're lacking in an area then book up some classes. [16:43] so what's the difference between X/Xorg/X11? [16:44] from a system's point of view [16:44] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [16:45] anyway, trying to learn about it if you don't already know a great bit about it is a bit overwhelming [16:46] just due to a lack of those kinds of orientations [16:47] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) joined ##slackware. [16:47] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) left irc: Changing host [16:47] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [16:47] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt5-port-234.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:47] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System_protocols_and_architecture [16:48] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:48] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [16:48] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-162-7-186.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: hollidays!! 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[17:57] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-15-238.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:58] alienBOB, are you around? [17:59] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:01] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:02] ikarouis (~ikar@103.223.34.95.customer.cdi.no) joined ##slackware. [18:02] ok so what is the program that combines with mutt to actually get the mail to download? [18:02] Hey! [18:03] panzer: fetchmail is one [18:03] trhodes: yes. I thought there was another one. [18:03] (i can't recall either) [18:03] fetchmail is good for pop3 stuff :) [18:04] yea I will ask later. I was trying to setup alpine and it looks like fetchmail would be the best bet for that too. [18:04] getmail looks like it'll do [18:04] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-429633.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:04] ShKoDrAnI (~ardit24@cpe-95-107-197-85.wifi.tring.al) joined ##slackware. [18:05] i have problem installing soundblaster x-fi driver in slackware 13.1 [18:05] anone any ideas? [18:05] doesn't mutt directly dl via imap these days? [18:06] dl is a bad word, sync folders i guess is technically moar bettah [18:06] Roin (~florian@p5B2BCF76.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya all o/ [18:06] i get this error message when i try compiling the driver btw [18:07] which error? [18:07] cp: cannot stat `ctxfi.ko': No such file or directory [18:08] yea I think that it. getmail plus mutt [18:08] I prefer getmail. But mutt now can do IMAP on its own. [18:09] Of course, if mutt is running on the mail server, you can just directly access the mbox or maildirs. [18:09] hmm. ok looking to see about using getmail. [18:09] (Mine is, but I use IMAP anyway.) [18:10] yea I will be using pop [18:12] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Quit: FSF Free Software Foundation [18:12] at least consider spop3 or similar. pop puts everything out there in the ether [18:13] or setup webmail on your mailhost [18:13] that way you have access to your mail wherever you are [18:13] POP3 is so 1990's :) [18:13] and if you do that set up https [18:13] Skywise: right now I got to do it this way. My cardboard box don't have inet. [18:13] yeah [18:15] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] There are tools like imapsync and offlineimap which can keep mail folders (yes, plural, with IMAP there can be more than one!) in synch. [18:15] you can do that with cyrus too [18:16] but thats not for beginners [18:18] of course, if you're not wed to the cli experience, thunderbird has made many improvements... [18:18] it used to be bloated and buggy, now it's just bloated (and less buggy) :) [18:18] i'm over storing email locally [18:19] especially sent mails [18:19] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [18:22] Skywise: I don't store sent mail. Just seems a waste. I don't copy the snail mails I send out so why do the same on email? [18:22] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [18:22] because they're small, and may come in handy later on [18:23] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:24] wharncliffe (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:29] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [18:30] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. 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[18:39] Necos (~tessai@dynamic-oit-vapornet-c-102.Princeton.EDU) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:40] trhodes: actually yes [18:40] jeev: not those gnats [18:40] fortune told me about death yesterday :-S [18:41] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:41] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:45] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] ah zaltekk [18:46] i'm a little confused about the choices and licensing options with the runtime libraries [18:46] sbs` (~mfd@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [18:47] imap is ok if you have a good spam catcher on server. If not mutt+fetchmail+procmail+spamassassin is useful. [18:47] a few things i have read hinted that the gcc Ada compiler's runtime's license doesn't require the entire Ada program to be GPL. the "gpl edition" of gnat does have this requirement. other things i have read make it seem as if there isn't really a difference... [18:48] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [18:48] dive: procmail is mothballed [18:48] mps31 (~mps@82.132.139.170) joined ##slackware. [18:48] really? What do people use now then? [18:49] maildrop [18:49] as per wikipedia [18:49] I will continue using it while slack supports it. [18:49] mps31 (mps@82.132.139.170) left ##slackware. [18:49] yea I know what you mean. [18:50] maildrop's language is more structured but procmial is not obsolete by any means [18:50] i use sendmail, mimedefang and spamassassin [18:50] procmail mailing list still seems pretty active. [18:50] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procmail [18:51] maildrop has if, while, foreach, grep, etc [18:52] grazymax (~grazymax@host133-163-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:52] there are also some neat internal functions like getaddr() etc. [18:52] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-95.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [18:52] mps31 (~mps@82.132.248.129) joined ##slackware. [18:53] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:53] mps31 (mps@82.132.248.129) left ##slackware. [18:54] sukaeto (~sukaeto@host75-54.student.udel.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:54] and I take it slackbook is when it gets done we will post it? 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[19:24] chrome isn't part of slackware [19:24] i know that [19:24] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:24] slackpkg only finds packages that are part of slackware [19:24] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:24] fine, i'll use linuxpackages then [19:25] (BIG TROLL NEXT LINE) [19:25] you can find chrome on slackbuilds.org [19:25] fuck you :) [19:25] heh [19:25] that one was blocking me big time [19:25] had to let it out [19:25] ok [19:25] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [19:25] i got my cmdline verbs bobulated. [19:26] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:26] i dont have slackbuilds [19:26] the script [19:26] damn, cariage and egg problem [19:26] carriage [19:27] uhm.... go to slackbuilds.org and search for chrome [19:27] too much work [19:27] i gave up :) [19:27] it's too much work to download the build script? [19:27] yea [19:28] im descending the user-scale from Guru [19:28] heh [19:28] and you picked slackware for the step down. [19:28] im almost at ``user wants magic box'' [19:28] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [19:28] ananke well, you know me, long time, only etal [19:29] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [19:29] 'etal'? [19:29] other adjectives [19:29] after, 'long time and only slackwarist' [19:29] that would be 'et al.' [19:29] my spacebar broke; so sue me [19:29] ananke how ya bin? [19:29] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.75.189) joined ##slackware. [19:30] fine and dandy [19:30] good! [19:30] lanmower (~lanmower@76.73.16.26) joined ##slackware. [19:30] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:30] wolven (~wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:31] when is slackbuilds gonna be appended to the dist? [19:31] never [19:31] that's a dumb decision [19:31] you might want to look at sbopkg [19:31] whenever pat feels like it. which is likely not anytime soon [19:31] nods [19:31] we need a gremlin to do it [19:31] extra/ [19:31] niriven (~root@c-68-84-208-111.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:32] SunTzu: if that was a question, the answer would be no [19:32] maybe someone should email it to him. [19:32] i dont see a [?] [19:32] oh there it is [19:32] wolven (~wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [19:33] lanmower__ (www-data@mail.buzzen.com) joined ##slackware. [19:33] crap [19:33] later. [19:33] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-68-232.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [19:33] lanmower_ (www-data@mail.buzzen.com) joined ##slackware. [19:33] pnq (asdf@AC8160F8.ipt.aol.com) joined ##slackware. [19:33] geez what a mission [19:34] lo all :) [19:34] is anyone live that can give me some advice on a caching dns setup? [19:34] nvision (~nvision@g231187013.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:34] use the force luke. [19:34] Shuren (~Devilman@host254-43-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:35] hi ananke :) [19:35] long time [19:35] hi [19:35] Action: ananke never recognizes anybody [19:36] lol, I think its been at least 3 years [19:36] that would explain. when it comes to irc, my memory buffer lasts about a week, at best [19:37] jgeboski (james@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [19:37] argh. getting 10MB/s from this raid controller. wtf [19:38] I've got a slackware 13 box set up to connect to my router, its got bind set up with the caching examples and it runs locally, resolv.conf is also set up and the linux box resolves fine, any other computer on the network that has that box set up as a dns server doesnt... Am I missing a crucial step here? [19:39] nvision (~nvision@g225051223.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [19:40] I've since also tried a tutorial on linuxquestions as a setup, this is what my confs are currently set to... but I have to admit the configurations look theoretically the same... [19:40] well, for starters, what happens when you use something like 'host www.google.com ip.of.your.dns.box' from any client? [19:41] personally, i don't see the point of running bind as a caching dns server, it's a bit heavy and complex. dnsmasq would be easier [19:41] hmm, that sounds like a good idea... [19:41] nvision (~nvision@g225051223.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Client Quit [19:42] the setup is as follows: router connects online, it doesnt serve dns, all the pcs on the lan dont have internet as such, they proxy through the linux box, I have a socks and http proxy. Now http is working well at the moment but some socks apps want to resolve online host names before they use the proxy. [19:43] irc for instance, I'm currently using cgi::irc :) [19:43] yay. 10MB/s -> 337MB/s. i guess it was a buggy kernel driver [19:43] ShKoDrAnI (~ardit24@cpe-95-107-197-85.wifi.tring.al) left irc: [19:44] would dnsmasq serve the purpose in this scenario? The linux box doesnt handle any pppoe, the router acts as a gateway only, no dns on it. [19:44] why would you bother with doing routing on that box, yet no dns? [19:44] dnsmasq can do a lot of things, including acting as a caching dns server [19:44] the router cant dns :( [19:44] why do you feel you need local dns server? [19:44] is your isp's dns server that bad? [19:44] cheap hsdpa hardware, but it has a huge antenna :) [19:45] I basically have to prevent the entire network from having unproxied internet, I'm doing this by setting their gateways to a non-existant ip [19:46] security by breakage [19:46] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [19:46] linux doesnt use internet without me telling it to, so I'm using it to proxy to the other machines... where only apps configured to use the proxy can go online. This is my answer to being charged a lot for internet here :) [19:48] yeah sounds like you need to have the linux box serve dns requests [19:48] good point :) [19:48] dnsmasq is a cheap way [19:49] let me go rtfm :) [19:49] lanmower__ (www-data@mail.buzzen.com) left irc: Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF) [19:50] haha I like that quit message... (EOF) [19:52] niriven (~root@c-68-84-208-111.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:55] pnq (asdf@AC8160F8.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:56] and dhcp to boot! nice! [19:56] bargain at half the price [20:01] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [20:01] yeh i use dnsmasq on my router [20:02] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@190.27.144.210) joined ##slackware. [20:02] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@190.27.144.210) left irc: Changing host [20:02] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [20:02] nice! [20:03] special through 4th of july weekend, buy one dhcp get a dns for free. [20:04] lanmower__ (www-data@mail.buzzen.com) joined ##slackware. [20:04] mancha: I will get if you throw in a pack of knives too. [20:04] and maybe a nic [20:04] niceness! [20:04] if you call in the next hour i'll throw in a set of ginzu [20:05] my babies are resolving :) [20:05] wharncliffe (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:05] no wonder theres no rc.bind... lol [20:05] woh3 (~will@67.232.145.174) joined ##slackware. [20:06] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] what do I get if I call in the next ten mins? [20:06] that said, setting up a cache-only bind setup is quite simple [20:06] Herman (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:07] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [20:07] and, these days you can even serve dnssec! i don't think dnsmasq haz that mojo [20:08] haha I'm quite happy with this so far :) [20:08] its odd, I have a socks server running, it works on filezilla and google talk, but not on irc... [20:11] Maitreya (~dharma@unaffiliated/maitreya) joined ##slackware. [20:16] who here is awesome at scripts and would like a challenge! make a simple script work better: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/3oHNrX31.html (as it is, it'll take 11 years to search with a foo that's half the size) [20:16] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:16] archiebenedict (~archie@ip68-102-126-202.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] if you forget parts of your luks passphrase, but remember most of it, is there a program to help build a dictionary, and one to apply said dictionary to attempt to recover the passphrase? [20:18] archiebenedict: Use rainbowtables ;) [20:19] woh3 (will@67.232.145.174) left ##slackware. [20:19] php ftw here raela! :) [20:19] archiebenedict: or just learn to hack your box... that's a skillset you can universalize later [20:19] lanmower__: hrm.. I don't think php will help in this case :P [20:20] string matching speeds. php. [20:20] do you think php can search though that large of a file in a matter of hours? [20:21] its possible [20:22] it will do it a zilion bilion times faster than calling shell commands from a bash script, thats a given [20:24] how large is the file? [20:25] oh nm [20:26] foo is 2.4G, sequence is 4.8G, if that helps as well [20:29] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [20:29] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. 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[20:35] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Disconnected by services [20:35] Nick change: martin_hex -> martinhex [20:35] or next time use multiple keys. this way if you forget one, you may remember the others [20:36] man, anake.. paid for single end reads, lab goofed and gave us paired end (which are more expensive) which is great.. but they are so much more of a pain in the ass to work with [20:36] I'm slapping together something small here [20:36] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210074250.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:36] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210074250.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Changing host [20:36] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [20:37] Nick change: fallen -> Guest34870 [20:37] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) got netsplit. [20:37] leontopod (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) got netsplit. [20:37] johndee (~id@93-81-70-11.broadband.corbina.ru) got netsplit. [20:37] jimi (~jimi@danix.eaerich.com) got netsplit. [20:37] tuxdev (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) got netsplit. [20:37] johndee (~id@93-81-70-11.broadband.corbina.ru) returned to ##slackware. [20:37] fallen_ (~PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) joined ##slackware. [20:38] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] Guest34870 (~PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:41] cpu, Intel Core I7 860 8mb cache or the unlocked chip, I7 875 ? [20:41] raela: in the fun news, we're supposed to be setting up a bioinformatics system analysis service. with no budget [20:41] buzzin: ark.intel.com, go compare [20:42] ananke: wow, nice. bet that'll be popular [20:42] ark intel ? [20:42] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [20:42] http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=48499,41316, [20:43] tuxdev (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) got lost in the net-split. [20:43] jimi (~jimi@danix.eaerich.com) got lost in the net-split. [20:43] leontopod (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) got lost in the net-split. [20:43] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) got lost in the net-split. [20:43] ya ya , got it just did a search [20:43] Action: ananke sees no advantages in 860 over 875, besides lower price [20:43] humans are dual core processors! [20:44] yeah, but what i was wondering was the fact the the 875 is unlocked [20:44] define 'unlocked' [20:44] ha will you can read about it [20:44] will you want to go as far like then? [20:44] here [20:44] http://www.anandtech.com/show/3742/intels-core-i5655k-core-i7875k-overclocked-and-analysed-/4 [20:45] so you can read it yourself [20:45] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [20:46] very funny, i posted my question to see what other people thought ! [20:46] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:46] & i have [20:46] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [20:46] Hi [20:46] I want to submit a package to the main repository. How can I do it? [20:46] hense my question [20:47] crocket, what do you mean 'main repo' do you to be included in slackware itself? [20:47] crocket: which 'main repository'? slackware's? email volkerdi@slackware.com, and good luck to you [20:47] do you mean* [20:47] libhangul 0.0.7 is included in the main. [20:47] I want to submit libhangul 0.0.10. [20:48] I can't submit libhangul 0.0.10 to slackbuilds.org. [20:48] you can email Pat and ask if he can update t for -current [20:48] hmm [20:48] crocket: yeah. about that. good luck, all you can do is ask patrick to include 0.0.10 in the next release/current [20:48] leontopod (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) joined ##slackware. [20:48] ananke, You said good luck. Does it mean pat isn't going to read my email? [20:49] no it means only he will decide which version to run with [20:49] crocket: he may read it, eventually. chances are he won't respond, and even better chance is that he won't upgrade it right away. [20:49] jimi (~jimi@danix.eaerich.com) joined ##slackware. [20:49] tuxdev (~tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [20:50] xtr3m3 (~xtr3m3@87-194-25-59.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:50] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [20:51] crocket, *if* it's stable enough and it works with the rest of the system without too much fuss he may include it. [20:52] two big *ifs* [20:52] you also ought to include an argument for upgrading to that newer release [20:52] leontopod (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) got netsplit. [20:52] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) got netsplit. [20:52] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) got netsplit. [20:52] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) got netsplit. 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[20:59] lanmower_ (www-data@mail.buzzen.com) left irc: Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF) [20:59] wow @ splits [21:00] ubunti yum updates are the cause likely [21:01] right. because _ubuntu_ uses yum [21:02] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:03] alkos333 (~alkos333@c-71-194-87-71.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:03] I just sent an email to pat. God make him read my email. [21:03] Pat reads all the email he gets. [21:04] Ubuntu is a debian derivative. [21:04] To be correct, ubuntu is a spinoff of debian. [21:05] pnq (asdf@ACA32449.ipt.aol.com) joined ##slackware. [21:05] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:06] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:07] huh? [21:07] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) joined ##slackware. [21:07] Is scim in slackware 13.1 or slackware-current? [21:07] both [21:07] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:07] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:07] Pretty sure both, yes. I don't have it installed, but I've made a point not to for some months. [21:08] How could it not be installed while it's in slackware 13.1? [21:08] I selectively install packages. Or, rather, I selectively don't install packages. [21:09] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:09] Not recommended for anyone who doesn't deliberately break their system on a regular basis. [21:09] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:09] I haven't broken windows vista for 2 years. [21:10] hey raela [21:10] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:10] lanmower__: ? [21:11] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:12] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:13] hi.. can anyone recommend a decent window manager? not a fan of kde.. [21:13] xdoctor (~bla@201.78.250.153) joined ##slackware. [21:13] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:13] ratpoison [21:14] woh3 (will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [21:15] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:15] can you use mouse on that? [21:15] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:16] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:16] to do what? [21:17] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:18] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:19] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:19] XFCE [21:20] XFCE is recommended as an alternative to KDE. [21:20] XFCE is rather a desktop environment. [21:20] XFCE is a rat. [21:20] you could use openbox from slackbuilds [21:21] xtr3m3: do you want a desktop environment or window manager? [21:21] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:22] squeaking squeaking [21:23] If you want an alternative window manager to KWin, I recommend metacity or emerald. [21:23] metacity is quick. [21:23] i know, but i've been using openbox. love my rat :) [21:24] xtr3m3, already using XFCE? [21:24] i'm having a mess around on blackbox [21:25] Blackbox looks ugly by default. [21:25] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:26] Someone needs to make an alternative to X window. [21:26] This networked windowing system is slow. [21:26] networked makes it slow. [21:28] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:28] I've booted FreeBSD installation USB yesterday. [21:28] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [21:28] It supported my built-in PS/2 laptop keyboard while linux didn't without i8042.dumbkbd kernel parameter. [21:28] different kernel, different behaviors [21:29] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:31] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:32] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:33] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:34] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:34] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:35] x-ip_ (~x-ip@host105.200-117-225.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:35] I'm planning to remove windows vista eventually. [21:35] In place of windows vista, I would install gentoo and freebsd. [21:35] Maybe I'm a majochist. [21:35] vldmr (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [21:36] Nick change: vldmr -> AbsTradELic [21:36] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:36] s/majochist/masochist/ [21:37] xdoctor (~bla@201.78.250.153) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:37] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:37] lanmower_ (www-data@mail.buzzen.com) joined ##slackware. [21:39] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:39] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:39] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:41] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:42] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:42] leontopod (~leontopod@intertwingled.net) left irc: Quit: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer [21:44] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:44] crocket, do it [21:45] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:46] crocket: I'd have to say that leaving Vista on would make you the masochist. [21:47] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:47] Slackware itself is sadistic enough. [21:47] familiarity will change that [21:48] or reading [21:49] I didn't find slackware to be at all sadistic when I started. It actually worked and installed on the hardware I had at the time. [21:49] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:50] Slackware is sadistic in that it requires us to package half of the packages we use on our machines. [21:50] lol, what? [21:50] How is that sadistic? [21:51] Sadistic is when the distro thinks it knows what you want more so than you. [21:51] I'm thinking of packaging OpenOffice because slackbuilds.org has a version of OO that builds from an RPM. [21:51] Anyone tried to compile kde-4.4.86svn -using Alien's 4.4.85 scripts? here it compiled 15/20 packages, these five fail to compile: kdebase-runtime, kdebase-workspace, kdebindings, kdelibs, kdenetwork [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6B9DC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:08] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:09] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [22:10] replay : If you know how to package a program, you can get it running. [22:10] fallen_ (~PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [22:12] fallen (~PolarBear@unaffiliated/thefallen) joined ##slackware. [22:12] replay : If you want a simple answer, yes. [22:12] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] crocket, says it requires gtk2, guess it isn't ruby-gtk2 from slackbuild? [22:13] gtk2 is included in slackware [22:13] [-] Error: LoadError no such file to load -- gtk2 [22:13] what? [22:13] archiebenedict (~archie@ip68-102-126-202.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:14] [ installed ] - gtk+2-2.18.9-x86_64-1 is gtk2 [22:14] How did you make msfgui? [22:14] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [22:14] all I did was install framework from slackbuild [22:14] nothing else [22:15] Where did you get the slackbuild? [22:15] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/framework/ [22:16] replay : slackware 13 and 13.1 are two different things. [22:16] You have to modify a part of the slackbuild. [22:17] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:17] both 13.0 and 13.1 have the same framework build [22:17] 3.3.2 [22:17] hmm [22:18] Does the error occur while executing framework.SlackBuild? [22:18] well everything else runs fine, i can run msfconsole, only msfgui gives me [22:18] [*] The msfgui interface requires the ruby-gtk2 and ruby-libglade2 packages [22:18] [*] Dependencies include ruby-pango, ruby-glib2, ruby-gdkpixbuf2, and ruby-atk [22:18] Channel flood from replay -- kicking [22:18] [-] Error: LoadError no such file to load -- gtk2 [22:18] replay kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [22:19] huh [22:19] hahaha [22:20] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [22:20] darn there replay needs to slow down a bit. [22:20] or learn to pastebin. [22:21] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [22:22] replay: there is this thing called pastebin that would help you. [22:22] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:22] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [22:23] alkos333 (~alkos333@173.7.221.52) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:23] jgeboski (james@97.72.86.194) left ##slackware. [22:23] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:23] replay : let's talk here. [22:25] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:25] http://pastebin.com/jtpL4wNu [22:25] You need to install ruby-pango, ruby-glib2, ruby-gdkpixbuf2, and ruby-atk [22:25] Dependencies include them. [22:26] Dependencies include them, but you don't have them. [22:27] replay, Also read https://metasploit.com/redmine/issues/503 [22:27] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.175.97) joined ##slackware. [22:27] wonder why they dropped the support [22:29] Cesarion76 (~Miranda@15-90-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [22:30] replay : The only way you can learn what you want is to install those dependencies. [22:30] s/learn/run [22:31] replay, do you know how to package programs? [22:32] corretico_ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [22:32] ruby-gtk2 from SBo includes all those [22:32] lol i said that [22:32] but i installed it still same error [22:32] yeah, im saying it again [22:33] hmm [22:33] I didn't know. [22:33] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:33] replay, You installed ruby-gtk2 and get the error? [22:33] yep [22:33] I give up. [22:33] ruby-gtk2-0.19.3-i486-1_SBo [inst=yes]: ruby-gtk2 (ruby bindings for gtk2) [22:34] Unless you use slackware64, there seems to be no problem. [22:35] slackware 13.0 [22:35] corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:37] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [22:37] Skywise (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:38] replay : You can use other supported linux distro. [22:38] why not throw 13.1 in a vm and see if everything works correctly? [22:40] nah Slackware is my fav [22:40] idk if 13.1 will make a difference since SBo uses the same packages for 13.1 and 13.0 [22:41] and its a binary package [22:41] stinky (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ljrelliogdqzrsfg) left irc: Changing host [22:41] stinky (nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [22:41] stinky (nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: Changing host [22:41] stinky (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-ljrelliogdqzrsfg) joined ##slackware. [22:41] Cesarion76 (~Miranda@15-90-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org [22:44] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-152-73.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:45] heya,folks [22:45] heya MLanden, how's it goin' ? [22:46] Skywise (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) joined ##slackware. [22:46] goin' good thanks trhodes...yourself? [22:46] doin' pretty good, thanks :) (enjoying a nice lightning show atm) [22:48] Action: MLanden looks at the radar..Tennessee? [22:50] yep, south of there [22:50] northern MS [22:51] cool...my 2nd guess would of been Texas/OK...love radar gifs...;D [22:51] neat site here for lightning-related gifs: http://wwlln.net/WWLLN_movies/Movie_of_Lightning_in_Americas_BIG.gif [22:53] trhodes,cool...thanks [22:53] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:53] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-152-73.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:54] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-152-73.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:54] gregsparc (~chatzilla@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [22:56] Cesarion76 (~Miranda@15-90-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [22:57] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:57] Nick change: oobe -> dinglberry [22:58] Nick change: dinglberry -> oobe [22:59] asamoah (~caio@190.244.49.108) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:00] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:04] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:05] Cesarion76 (~Miranda@15-90-231-201.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:07] Evilaz (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] n0w0nd3r (~srijan4@117.196.221.31) joined ##slackware. [23:09] woh3 (~will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] I cant get ffmpeg buildscript to work, it donest give error, it just fails, it goes through configure and most of compile then it just drops off in the install section, anyone have any idea whats going on? [23:12] you are not running the build correctly [23:12] and how might i be doing that? [23:12] you need to be logged in with root enviroment [23:12] i am root [23:12] su will not work [23:12] you have to use su - [23:12] su - then? [23:13] has anyone messed with ffmpeg 0.6 that go released recently? [23:13] s/go/got [23:14] The maintainer id working on ffmpeg .6 but there is a lot of things the check it aginst. [23:14] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-72-168.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:15] XGizzmo, ok [23:16] mannynix (~mannynix@200.92.175.97) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:17] arenics (1000@unaffiliated/arenics) joined ##slackware. [23:20] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:20] XGizzmo, so I see...looking in the tarball now [23:22] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:24] corretico__ (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. 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