[00:00] antler: yeah i understood... [00:00] heh because i can how one would choose 3 over 4 [00:01] hehe [00:01] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:01] s/can/can see [00:02] antler: lol, I was about to smack you with a book of grammar. :P [00:02] antler: kde 3.5.10 alone consumes 97mb of RAM on my laptop :P [00:02] fire|bird: remember this month! remember sami jenkis! [00:02] antler: kde 4.2 consumes 270mb RAM :P [00:02] :O [00:03] too much [00:03] deco: Get more ram. :P [00:03] deco: wow [00:03] fire|bird: i have 1.2gb :P [00:03] i just don't like to waste [00:03] fresh login of kde 4.x here is 50 MB. ;) [00:03] fire|bird: lies [00:03] and that's on 1 G [00:03] oh, well then why are you worried about 300? :) [00:03] deco: nope [00:04] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [00:04] antler: dunno it's because...just leave me alon!! [00:04] alone* [00:04] Action: antler pretends to leave deco alone [00:04] :P [00:04] LEAVE DECO ALONE!!! :P [00:04] Action: deco cries [00:04] zomg [00:04] deco: *and* you're going bald. :P [00:05] Action: deco cries even more [00:05] antler: You weren't here when I added deco to my shitlist. :P [00:05] chopp: gonna shave my head ... [00:05] chopp: Nah, he's just growing faster than his hair is. ;) [00:05] :o [00:05] people say i think too much ... [00:06] and we say you think too little. Hmm, who is right. [00:06] chopp: oh man that's called kicking a guy when he's down [00:06] :D [00:06] too late... [00:06] wait, deco's a guy? :P [00:06] hmmmm [00:06] you wanna see ? [00:06] i can show you my birdy [00:06] if you want [00:06] OHGODNO [00:06] k, he's not a guy [00:06] NO guy in his right mind would call it a "birdy" [00:06] a dude wouldn't call his main parts a "birdy" [00:06] hahah antler knows [00:07] well .... [00:07] haha [00:07] my pidgin ... [00:07] puch buggy no return antiwire [00:07] wtf [00:07] a pidgin is a bird. [00:07] leave me alone! [00:07] so is a pigeon [00:07] fire|bird: you still haven't figured out the correct spelling of pigeon yet, huh? :P [00:08] antler: leave me alone. :P [00:08] pigeon [00:08] yeah, fire|bird 's been struggling with it for, oh, as long as i can remember [00:08] antler: In the IM app sense, it's pidgin, in the bird sense, it's pigeon. [00:08] same thing [00:08] .... [00:08] fire|bird: sure, that's what you say now [00:08] technically you can IM with a pigeon as well as pidgin [00:08] antler: That's what I've always said, where's prove that I haven't? :P [00:09] fire|bird: no one ... me and gets away with it [00:09] antiwire: true [00:09] um, with a pigeon it'd hardly be instant. [00:09] http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html [00:09] argh, s/prove/proof/ [00:09] fail [00:09] .... [00:09] A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers [00:10] ok so this gpu yeah it sucks [00:10] so go trade your craptop for a laptop. [00:11] gonna try to save up $500 for a desktop [00:11] lemme see if i can get the link [00:11] http://www.surfline.com/surflinetv/no-category/shea-lopez_31399 [00:12] fire|bird: pft. "pigeon is an app for chatting," said fire|bird. [00:13] :) [00:13] deco deco [00:13] antler: where's the log that's from? :P [00:13] sim city competitor? http://www.citiesxl.com/content/view/724/137/ heh [00:13] that is nice graphics [00:13] this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103221 [00:13] jeev jeev [00:14] fire|bird: don't you remember? i was the one that called it "pigeon" :) [00:14] oh, it's MMO [00:14] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [00:14] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [00:14] fire|bird: and then you said something like "why you ignorant...." [00:14] :) [00:14] lol [00:15] jeev: looks awesome [00:15] i dunno if it's mmo or not [00:15] looks like it's hosted in EU, why couldn't they get a US mirror [00:16] hey BP{k}, around? [00:17] mancha: sorta :) [00:17] remember when we talked about evince...you said something about "unfortunately $some_dep is the last one that works with $i_forgot" [00:18] can you assign those variables for me? :> [00:19] mancha: yeah, the 2.26.2 series is the one that works with poppler that is in slackware{,64}-13.0. Newer versions of evince (ie the 2.27 and 2.28 series) will require a newer version of poppler. [00:20] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:20] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:20] why does `ls -d` only return "./" [00:20] isn't is supposed to all directories? [00:20] Supposed to be* [00:22] It just returns "." here. :P [00:22] this is me http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/state_beaches_10172009.jpg [00:22] BP{k} ah ok, so its a dependency on poppler, which i think also runs side-by-side with glib, aye? [00:22] thanks for the remember [00:23] -d, --directory list directory entries instead of contents, and do not dereference symbolic links [00:23] mancha: probably. the last time I checked out the 2.28 branch is required a poppler that was in development. So there was no sense in actually even starting to think about asking Pat to update that. I'll have to check that out and see if that has changed now. [00:23] antiwire: tobey maquire as spiderman has Nothing on you. [00:24] hahaha [00:24] I know you like my rubber covered man body [00:24] lol [00:24] well i am feeling a little tingly right now [00:25] I have more, I'm scaling them down right now [00:25] mancha: ah I remember now. It required at least poppler 0.11 (then the current dev branch). I just had a look and seems poppler 0.12 is the current stable :) [00:26] TecR0c (i=tecr0c@never.met.a.leet-hacker.net) left ##slackware. [00:26] BP{k} yes except i'm not having luck with .12 compile right now [00:26] 0.12 or 0.12.1? [00:26] .12.1 (i think i need a newer glibc) [00:27] what a joy :) [00:27] antiwire: ok, i'm putting 2 and 2 together. nullboy? [00:28] didn't nullboy go away or something? [00:28] i just remember 'morticus' in the name and that pic of the rocket powered train [00:28] BP, yeah it's a bit of a pain but worth figuring out (for me) [00:28] antler: lol [00:28] in soviet Russia, train catches YOU!! [00:29] oh, so not nullboy [00:29] :P [00:30] http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/state_beaches_img_3395_10172009.jpg [00:30] I tried to get into the little hobbit hole [00:30] antiwire: i always thought you were in like your 40s or 50s ... [00:30] it was a small day but fun [00:30] deco: nope [00:30] Action: nyRednek is thinking about trying pcbsd out [00:32] There was some random guy out that day with a badass camera inside a water proof housing [00:35] mancha: Slackware package /tmp/poppler-0.12.1-x86_64-1.txz created. [00:35] BP, i am on an older glibc [00:36] what glibc are you at? [00:36] mancha: that's standard slackware64-13.0 [00:36] (which i am not on!) [00:36] :) [00:37] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [00:37] mancha: upgrade then darn you!! ;) [00:37] no way! this boxen i am talking about is so customized i refuse to u/g :) [00:38] antiwire: nice pics. [00:38] how? he's running vector linux! [00:38] BP{k}: thanks ;) [00:39] BP{k} just fixed it (just a matter of backporting one bit of code) [00:40] hey antler :) [00:40] hey! how are you pprkut ? long time :) [00:41] RedSocrates (n=RedSocra@cpe-69-207-175-250.rochester.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:42] heh, true. I actually feel quite good, despite the horribly unholy time of the day (its 06:42 here) [00:43] antler: how are you? [00:43] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [00:44] pprkut: pretty good. same old, you know, different day. :) [00:45] hehe [00:49] I'm watching the Red Bull air race on hulu [00:49] insane. [00:49] http://www.hulu.com/watch/104224/red-bull-air-race-porto [00:50] antiwire: heh, yeah that's a whole different style of "flying" [00:51] I've seen races like this before but I never knew they had speed, G and angle of the dangle rules [00:51] that makes is much harder [00:51] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [00:54] smackdaddy (n=gh@adsl-75-24-65-245.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [00:55] For now, Hulu is a U.S. service only. [00:56] i can't watch the video :( [00:56] pah-pah-pah-proooxy [00:57] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] hey! that gives me an idea. i could just set up a proxy. [00:57] lol [00:57] antler: where are you from ? [00:57] good evening everyone [00:58] hmm wonders ... never installed slackware on newer hardware... shld i turn off multi - threading in bios - did nvidia-Linux-86-185.18.36 -pkg1.run create X86-64 driver? [00:58] deco: calgary, alberta, canada, north america, earth, solar system, milky way, universe [00:58] antler: :o [00:58] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [00:58] . [00:59] Lucy: that package should not have created a 64-bit drivers [00:59] nite all [00:59] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [00:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:01] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:03] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [01:03] gd to know.. thanks [01:03] think i am done for today... night all [01:03] Lucy (n=Luz@99.162.239.154) left irc: "Leaving" [01:05] I got bored and setup cron to launch "fortune >message | wall message" every five minutes, it is pointless, but fun. [01:05] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [01:06] L1nuxer (i=L1nuxer@187.26.77.204) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [01:06] hey mfillpot, how's it going? [01:07] not bad, I'm in a better mood today, u? [01:08] fire|bird: I finally got a laptop to work on that takes linux without any issues [01:08] mfillpot: I'm great, thanks. I got raindrop installed in Ubuntu VM. :P [01:08] mfillpot: nice. [01:09] fire|bird: does raindrop really help to consolidate the bulk of social mail, or does it appear to be a failed attempt? [01:10] mfillpot: Well, it's just at 0.1, so hard to tell what it may develop in to (they possibly will incorporate google wave protocols), but as for now, it doesn't seem all that impressive. [01:10] mfillpot: http://imagebin.org/68955 [01:11] Nick change: NaCl -> NameStolen [01:11] fire|bird: by the screenshot it looks very lame, but at least it is trying to organize the conversations, but wave will do better(hopefully) [01:12] oh come on, " NameStolen " is so 90s. [01:12] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-160-170-151.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:12] mfillpot: Yeah, I think wave will be leaps and bounds above raindrop, but it will be interesting to see what raindrop may develop in to. [01:12] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-166-60.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:12] Nick change: antler -> NaCl [01:12] fire|bird: from what mozilla is trying to do with rain, I hope they utilize their idea to make a useful wave addition to merge the best of both worlds [01:13] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@114-45-231-16.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:13] PanzerChrist^ (i=plantage@74.86.163.22) joined ##slackware. [01:14] fire|bird: it would be better if the collaborate on a cloud platform then trying to make another app to install [01:14] what program would show a graph for input in to the mic? what ever thats called =x [01:14] mfillpot: Yeah, hopefully, they state in the FAQ that they aren't trying to be like wave and reinvent messaging, but to combine what's already out there, but they appreciate what wave is doing and will possibly include wave protocols. Raindrop is being worked on by the Mozilla Messaging team, so I can't imagine that it won't be somehow integrated into Thunderbird down the road too. [01:15] mfillpot: yeah, that would be nice. As of now, raindrop is installed, and then accessed via a web browser. [01:15] fire|bird: any luck getting it installed in slack? [01:16] acidchild: audacity can show MIC input levels [01:17] its pretty big program though ;/ [01:17] mfillpot: Not completely, yet, issues with raindrop connecting to couchdb, so it is possible, just a minor issue. Also, has a few deps that SBo doesn't have, but are easily installed on their own, it's mainly python stuff. [01:17] NaCl (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:17] pwnt [01:17] Axius (n=fd@92.82.81.244) joined ##slackware. [01:17] Nick change: NameStolen -> NaCl [01:17] haha [01:17] NaCl_ (n=antler@d198-53-234-245.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:17] NaCl_: I own that too. :P [01:18] Action: PanzerChrist^ rides his Tank over the anarcho-Syndicalist Communist Jew creator of the GPL Richard Stallman's legs then throws his still alive body in a high convective glass oven based on the second law of thermodynamics [01:18] FreeBSD ssh.sign.io 7.2-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 #6: Fri Aug 14 14:32:56 CDT 2009 root@backup.stabulum.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BACKUP i386 [01:18] well, I'm gonna crash for the night, goodnight all [01:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TinECXwZVT0 [01:18] fire|bird: I can't wait to see it when it is done [01:18] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [01:22] _MaggoT_ (n=Newbie@125.161.217.43) joined ##slackware. [01:24] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving." [01:30] "Linux is bloated" -- Linus Torvalds [01:30] Linux has never been about quality there are so many parts of the system that are just these cheap little hacks and it just happens to run.... I don't know what his (Linux Torvalds) focus is anymore but it sure isn't quality."--- Theo De Raadt [01:31] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-166-60.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:31] Nick change: NaCl_ -> antler [01:31] NaCl: hahah [01:31] i was killed. and thus i flail. [01:32] openbsd sucks! [01:32] HansGruber (i=IceChat7@c-24-98-184-162.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:32] slackboy: we need you! [01:32] Axius: that is because you don't have enough unix skills to use it [01:33] I meant Linux Torvalds not "Linux Torvalds" obviously [01:33] I meant Linus Torvalds not "Linux Torvalds" obviously, rather [01:33] antler: :P [01:34] Action: NaCl wonders if that is noobfarmable [01:34] Axius: actually the shell account I'm using right now is running FreeBSD but the box I'm using to ssh into the FreeBSD box is OpenBSD in otherwords I'm an OpenBSD user [01:34] PanzerChrist^: why are you here ? [01:34] are we special ? [01:35] of course we are [01:35] deco: not really I just think slackware users unlike ubuntu users aren't a lost cause [01:35] lol [01:35] deco: unless you think that is 'special' [01:35] PanzerChrist^: so we still have hope ? [01:35] HansGruber (i=IceChat7@c-24-98-184-162.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:35] ubuntu has its place in the universe [01:35] PanzerChrist^: can you guide me ? [01:35] Azeotrope (n=azeotrop@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [01:36] deco: eh ? [01:37] Anyone knows what are the variables I can put in a file name to be the actual date? in need something like backup-21-10-2009 [01:37] NaCl: Ubuntu has its place in the universe as a care bear insecure bloated spaghetti code cotton candy pansy ass faggotry OS [01:37] PanzerChrist^: can you guide me towards the light ? [01:38] PanzerChrist^: can you take me to our lord ? [01:38] slackweird (n=acolyte@unaffiliated/slackwared) left irc: "init 0" [01:38] Azeotrope: $(date +%d-%m-%Y) [01:38] PanzerChrist^: very well [01:38] PanzerChrist^: how passionate :) [01:39] Thanks BP{k} ! [01:39] i'd still like to see theo and linus duke it out [01:39] PanzerChrist^: aren't you our messiah ? [01:39] (not metaphorically) [01:39] PanzerChrist^: he who died for our sins ? [01:40] .... [01:40] another victim ... [01:41] slackware's way of handling third party packages is mentally retarded especially around your 20th or so package compared to ports and pkgsrc on BSD [01:41] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:41] PanzerChrist^: are you afraid to answer ? [01:42] deco: I'm a freaking Atheist in reality [01:42] PanzerChrist^: yet you preach by the name.... [01:43] deco: the band named PanzerChrist makes music that sounds similar to the noise I make while running over the legs of Communist Jews e.g. Richard Stallman with my tank : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TinECXwZVT0 [01:44] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:44] Weird0ne_ (n=rogue@99.160.155.34) joined ##slackware. [01:44] you know... i really like the idea that motivates slackware (distro): keep as much as you can stock. [01:45] PanzerChrist^: you fear the name.... [01:45] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05981.sunnyca.wayport.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:45] Nick change: Weird0ne_ -> [4a-52-4d] [01:45] If one buys hardware spefically for the purpose of running BSD instead of as an afterthought then there is no reason at all to run slackware instead of say FreeBSD [01:46] PanzerChrist^: you try to hide behind name [01:46] PanzerChrist^: atheist? what dat? [01:46] Nick change: PanzerChrist^ -> Angevin [01:46] deco: better now ? [01:46] http://losingweightafterbaby.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/huge-hamburger.jpg [01:47] Angevin, if our package management is so retarded why are you hanging out in here? [01:48] qneo (n=knao@91.127.109.60) joined ##slackware. [01:48] TwinReverb: Slackware's package management is so mentally retarded that black mouse linux and dracolinux had to be created [01:48] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:48] TwinReverb: using slackware + NetBSD's pkgsrc [01:48] Angevin, and you had to come in here to tell us about it [01:48] Angevin: you can change nicks but your soul is doomed [01:48] you're a troll. welcome to ignore. [01:49] TwinReverb: I care that you put me on ignore because ? (if you are bluffing you can still hear me) [01:49] s/hear/see/ [01:49] Angevin: the lord is mad at you [01:50] Angevin: look at your back [01:50] Angevin: he was marked words on you [01:50] Angevin: get a mirror and look [01:50] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:50] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:50] Angevin: "Persona Non Grata" [01:50] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [01:50] hahah why all this aggression towards communist jewish peeps? [01:51] deco: metaphysical propositions are nonsense read some Ludwig Wittgenstein genius [01:51] antler: Let's channel our agression towards deco. :) [01:51] [4a-52-4d] (n=rogue@99.160.155.34) left irc: "leaving" [01:51] yeah, for it is he that truly deserves it [01:51] fire|bird: try.... [01:52] antler: Aggression towards Communist Jews and Jewish liberals and Jewish socialists (more subtle forms of Communism) [01:52] antler: ++ :P [01:52] you guys fail [01:52] Angevin: you don't like jewish people? [01:52] or communism, or both? [01:52] Trolling BSD in a Slackware channel from a BSD shell account .... your so cool man [01:53] antler: I don't like organized Jewry but I don't necessarily have anything against the individual Jew on the street per se [01:53] Angevin: are you polish ? [01:54] deco: Ullan Scots [01:54] American actually [01:54] k [01:55] Angevin: Please stop talking. You are digging the rest of the good American people in deeper. [01:55] lol [01:56] "good American people" how oxymoronic! [01:56] totally just kidding :) [01:56] lol [01:57] Angevin: do you know how to code php ? [01:57] spider1010 you are an idiot because that is linear thinking I cannot make the rest of American people look bad because of the philosophical concept of emergent properties [01:57] rms is annoying, though :P [01:57] did you look that up all by yourself. that so cute [01:57] ..... [01:57] spider1010: nah, google found it for him. ;) [01:58] lol [01:58] didn't [02:00] awwww.... and here i am waiting, wanting more :D [02:00] he's a slow person .... [02:00] might be retarded [02:00] oh he drives a tank... [02:01] "retarded" is not politically correct. "corky thatcher" is. [02:01] It's ok Angevin went to google his response. He'll soon be back and in greater numbers. [02:01] spider1010: nah you see we BSD users unlike Linux users tend to actually have things like degrees in computer science and guess what ? I also just happened to minor in philosophy [02:01] spider1010: man i love that part [02:01] old ben's voice when he says that [02:01] http://forum.sign.io/read.php?3,42 ... lols No wonder they get banned [02:03] \o\ [02:03] /o/ [02:03] \o\ [02:03] Angevin: Having to do with the previous statement. If anyone can make a group of people look bad it's you. [02:03] /o/ [02:03] tie fighters coming in [02:03] lol [02:03] chewie see if you can increase the power [02:03] grrrrrrrrrrrRRRR [02:03] lol [02:03] \o\ [02:04] /o/ /o/ /o/ [02:04] spider1010: your IQ is obviously too low to understand the philosophical concept of emergent properties. Please do not breed. [02:04] I got one. That's great kid. Now don;t get cocky. [02:04] Angevin: well, so tell us! what is an emergent property? [02:04] spider1010: hahah [02:05] he definitely porked leia [02:05] GRRWWRWWWR [02:05] /o/ [02:05] antler: wait, wait, wait, he has to google it. :) [02:05] damn it [02:05] emergent properties, ie, the fact that [02:05] the group may exhibit properties which are not manifest in individuals. [02:05] The classic example of emergent properties is salt, which is composed of [02:05] Channel flood from Angevin -- kicking [02:05] sodium and chlorine: While both of these substances are poisonous [02:05] Angevin kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [02:05] LOL!!! [02:05] TecR0c (i=tecr0c@never.met.a.leet-hacker.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] \o/ [02:05] i did it! [02:05] Angevin (i=plantage@74.86.163.22) joined ##slackware. [02:06] dark vader = send more! [02:06] separately, their combination as sodium chloride is essential to life [02:06] \o\ ------- -- - - - - [-o-] [02:06] Hey if I take philosophy can I go into BSD channels and be an asshole [02:06] Angevin: so at what point is a property emergent? [02:07] Do you think I'm up for it. [02:07] more are coming! [02:07] spider1010: nope, you need a Comp Sci degree first. ;) [02:07] spider1010: depends you cannot just apply that point generically to everything [02:07] \o\ - - \o\ - - - \o\ - - {-o-} = use the force luc [02:07] my name is luka. i live on the second floor. [02:08] antler: So you're the one making all that noise. [02:08] :o [02:08] that hypothetical point of one thing to everthing else that is [02:08] Angevin: shuddap [02:08] fire|bird: i can't remember the next line, but it's from a song called "luka" ? [02:08] wow, for once I agree with deco. [02:08] \o\ - - - - - - - Angevin [02:09] antler: never heard of that song. :P [02:09] spider1010: you are free to do anything you want that doesn't break the law of your country [02:10] Angevin: SHUDDAP AND GTFO [02:10] Angevin: How can I be as annoying as you. Teach me. PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! [02:11] Angevin: (no offense) but you need to be more engaging to talk philosophy in here (from what i've seen). :) [02:11] antler: I didn't plan on talking about philosophy in here actually [02:11] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@host162-68-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [02:11] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-104-155.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:11] spider1010: http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&q=how+to+be+a+successful+troll&fp=2fc8558267712604 [02:12] Angevin: You are so smart and funny. And have the best hair. [02:12] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:5fd) left irc: No route to host [02:12] spider1010: how did you know I have really nice thick hair ? [02:12] \o\ /o/ \o\ /o/ \o\ woooooooO!!!!! [02:12] Is that want you want to hear. THANK GOD YOU ARE ALIVE. Now please shut you face. [02:12] spider1010: how did you know I'm not bald for instance ? [02:12] I don;t care. [02:13] when did this place go downhill? [02:13] spider1010: I just find it weird that you knew that [02:13] mancha: when our lord died for our sins :( [02:13] I'm sitting [02:13] spider1010: lucky guess eh ? [02:13] mancha when the channel ops when out for friday night drinks [02:14] well, c'mon. even the best geeks need tang on fridays, no? [02:14] Action: deco doesn't drink [02:14] Action: deco or smoke [02:14] WildWizard: that is what you get with Communism inefficient inferior management that eventually breaks down and the whole system collapses [02:14] Im sitting outside you house with a jar of lub and just got out of the pin. And though to myself why not go to a slackware forum find the most annoying person and sexual confuse them. [02:15] wtf [02:15] this is too much for me [02:15] my heart can't take it anymore [02:15] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:15] Does that make you happy. Look the world revolves around you. [02:15] and I'm done. [02:16] spider1010: you are incoherent [02:16] http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/powerpooph.gif [02:17] Angevin: Just pissed off. I had to attend a Access 07 class for work today. I very disturbed. [02:17] Angevin: nobody's getting it on with you. why are you belligerent? these are nice folks here :) [02:18] does anyone thing it is actually possible to get away with doing that to your girlfriend and still having a girlfriend after? [02:18] antler: I actually pasted a death metal song but I like black metal more [02:19] s/g/k [02:19] antler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuKSa-Wh7nw [02:19] can you imagine what she sounded like [02:19] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.202.43) joined ##slackware. [02:22] antler: : "The differences between FreeBSD and Linux used to be much more obvious than they are now. Now it comes down to theology. The BSD world is still the 'high church' or Druid Unix. Blood will be spilled on a stone altar at midnite when star systems are in a certain alignment to learn the ways of this tribe. Linux is a happier world. The spirits of Captain Kirk, Peter Pan and good beer come to mind." --- Keith Rankin [02:22] antler: There is only one inborn erroneous notion ... that we exist in order to be happy ... So long as we persist in this inborn error ... the world seems to us full of contradictions. For at every step, in great things and small, we are bound to experience that the world and life are certainly not arranged for the purpose of maintaining a happy existence ... hence the countenances of almost all elderly persons wear the expression of ... disappointmen [02:22] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [02:22] "I'm not sure why we are here but I'm pretty sure it is not to enjoy ourselves." --- Ludwig Wittgenstein [02:23] (Freenode) NOTICE: you have exceeded your daily paragraph allotment for today. [02:23] antiwire: was it truncated ? [02:24] and "that which we cannot speak of, we must pass over in silence." --wittgenstein [02:24] flamewars are so 1990s [02:25] yeah, real wars are so 2009 [02:25] :D [02:26] i'm surprised that canada is at war every time i think about it :( [02:26] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:26] hmmmm fluxbox is nice [02:26] just need to setup some nice fonts for rxvt [02:26] the default ones are hurting my eyes [02:27] " I don't know why we are here, but I'm pretty sure that it is not in order to enjoy ourselves."--- Ludwig Wittgenstein <- that is the real original quote but I said basically the samething from memory [02:27] basically means the samething anyway [02:28] I need to stop quoting from memory because it is not as accurate [02:28] grrrr i can't belive fluxbox's text looks so crappy with my nvidia drivers [02:28] deco: fluxbox is the honda civic of luxury cars :P [02:29] antler: yes but kinda dirty right now with my driveres [02:29] "Yabba dabba doo" -- Frederick Flintstone [02:29] drivers* [02:29] mancha: wise words [02:29] :) [02:30] lol frederick! [02:30] antler: I'm using fluxbox right now but I really haven't in years -- before this it was mostly ratpoison and windowmaker [02:30] i might be forced to use debian -_- [02:31] _MaggoT_ (n=Newbie@125.161.217.43) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:31] I like using stumpwm better than ratpoison but I don't like the idea of having to run a LISP interpretor just to use a windowmanager [02:32] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.156.14) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:32] deco: someone is holding a gun to your head making you switch to Debian ? [02:33] Angevin: my nvidia card is really slow in modern distros [02:33] deco: using the NV or nvidia driver module ? [02:33] Angevin: nvidia geforce 4 go 32mb legacy drivers [02:33] official [02:34] deco: pci or agp ? [02:34] Angevin: agp [02:34] lappy [02:34] oh so all the hardware is old then [02:34] Angevin: it works fine in old distros old slackware debian etc... [02:34] yeah [02:34] only things I would run on old hardware are NetBSD or OpenBSD but NetBSD being bes for that [02:35] Angevin: well it has 1.2 gig of RAM [02:35] still usable [02:35] slackware is good for old hardware too compared to most other distros but linux is shit anyway [02:36] cool story bro [02:36] Angevin: i have no idea what's new in the modern distros that make it slow... [02:36] could be hal but ... it works fine in slackware's unsupported kde 3.5 [02:36] deco: Xorg, mesa, etc. for one I would think. [02:37] deco: NetBSD and OpenBSD wouldn't support DRI for that though. I have an older NVIDIA chipset based card using OpenBSD without DRI but I don't need DRI for anything [02:37] Angevin: oh [02:37] deco: FreeBSD would support DRI for that card though probably [02:37] hmmmm [02:37] Angevin: but i have a broadcom card [02:37] Angevin: is it hard to setup ? [02:38] deco: not if it isn't wintel crap [02:38] I don't think [02:38] fire|bird: hmmm tried messing with xorg and nope.. maybe an older mesa would work ? dunno [02:38] Axius (n=fd@92.82.81.244) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:38] deco: Tried having nvidia make a xorg.conf? [02:39] fire|bird: nah, i just added "nvidia" manually [02:39] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.81.244) joined ##slackware. [02:39] usually one doesn't feel the need to evangelize a superior product to the "competition". mind you i think *bsd is good stuff, but this fellow's approach seems illogical. [02:39] deco: You should, Xorg.conf can affect alot in and of itself. nvidia-xconfig [02:39] hey mancha, how's it going? [02:39] fire|bird: ok will try [02:40] deco: You have the issue with nv driver too? Maybe even just try an X -configure [02:41] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:41] ok done gonna restart x [02:41] good luck :) [02:41] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:42] _MaggoT_ (n=Newbie@125.166.214.183) joined ##slackware. [02:43] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:43] So it sounds like everyone is have a great night so far. [02:44] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [02:44] Stanto (n=nnscript@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:44] s/bes/best/ [02:45] spider1010: I have weird sleeping patterns so this is really like your day to me [02:45] I woke up from sleeping at about 10:00 PM [02:46] deco (n=deco@69.108.88.254) joined ##slackware. [02:46] fire|bird: nope :( [02:46] Angevin: "Shut the fuck up" --spider1010. And here's a little something for you from all the linux users out there. http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/shutthefuckup-47660.jpg [02:46] deco: dang [02:46] spider1010: indeed [02:47] spider1010: ++++ [02:47] fire|bird: in xfce as soon as i start moving windows for example terminal , it's so slow [02:47] spider1010: "It is a wise thing to be polite; consequently, it is a stupid thing to be rude. To make enemies by unnecessary and willful incivility, is just as insane a proceeding as to set your house on fire. For politeness is like a counter--an avowedly false coin, with which it is foolish to be stingy." --- Arthur Schopenhauer [02:47] fire|bird: like if compositor was on with all effects etc... [02:47] deco: Is xfce compositing on? [02:47] fire|bird: no [02:47] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [02:48] Stop quoting people and think for yourself you fucking robot. [02:48] lol [02:48] fire|bird: that slow effect happens in all modern distros [02:48] Wow, he sure likes to copy and paste stuff. [02:48] spider1010: reinvent the wheel for you ? You are not worth the effort [02:48] alienBOB Alan_Hicks rworkman unixfool ? [02:48] fire|bird: the question is when will he write something of his own ? [02:48] deco: exactly [02:49] deco: Which did you try? X -configure or nvidia-xconfig? [02:49] fire|bird: nvidia-xconfig [02:49] deco: and are you using the nvidia driver atm too? [02:49] fire|bird: yes right now because i'm using kde 3.5 and it works well here [02:50] deco: Ok, and what about if you try X -configure? [02:50] sweetandy (n=sweetand@c-98-237-235-242.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:50] fire|bird: haven't tried, let me see [02:50] Communists and Socialists do not like Schopenhauer anyway they like his nemesis Hegel so your hostitlity to me is expected you Linux Commie [02:50] brb [02:51] deco (n=deco@69.108.88.254) left irc: "leaving" [02:51] spider1010 [02:51] s/hostitlity/hostility/ [02:52] smackdaddy (n=gh@adsl-75-24-65-245.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:53] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [02:54] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:54] fire|bird: nope :( [02:54] same thing .. [02:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBKbJikbn-E [02:55] Yes, I am a commie. But hey don't tell anyone that I'm in that military. Shhh its a secret I'm just doing it for that money so I can rule the world and bring Stallins dead body back to life. [02:56] grrrr i give up ... never could solve this issue [02:56] deco: dang. paste your xorg.conf? [02:56] ok [02:56] t0f (i=1000@4.238.248.187) joined ##slackware. [02:57] [02:57] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:57] spider1010: I'm might join the French Foreign Legions so I do an elite NAVY SEALs workout to prepare so if we meet in combat I will kill you easily with my elite killing machine body because you are probably run of the mill standard grunt material and not special forces material [02:57] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:57] spider1010: I'll snap your neck and shit down your throat [02:58] alienBOB Alan_Hicks rworkman unixfool ? [02:59] fire|bird: http://fpaste.org/x5p6/ [02:59] Yes please dream. In this world that you live in are there guns or any possibility you you winning because I have really gone through all the training I need. [03:00] stickyboy (n=hugo@196.202.207.72) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:00] So until you do something worth talking about please don't talk. [03:00] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.67.255) joined ##slackware. [03:00] spider1010: guns aren't applicable in every situation e.g. close hand to hand combat [03:00] deco: Ok, and this is your xorg.conf after X -configure and moving /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? [03:01] have you done any hand to hand combat training? [03:01] fire|bird: ooops i forgot about the moving part [03:01] lol [03:01] lol [03:01] yeah long time [03:01] spider1010: I've been taking martial arts since I was 12 and now I'm 31 [03:01] let me try [03:01] Then please http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/shutthefuckup-47660.jpg [03:02] 31 stone? [03:02] fire|bird: ok done gonna restart x [03:02] brb, i know i should use screen but i'm lazy! [03:02] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:03] I use tmux instead of screen because screen is liscensed under the communist GPL and tmux is BSD liscensed [03:04] tmux >> screen [03:04] Angevin: Come get some. You anti linux asshole. http://slackwaregallery.org/displayimage.php?pid=444&fullsize=1 [03:05] spider1010: you don't look like you are in elite shape but I am [03:06] spider1010: NAVY SEALs BUDS workout is harder and more elite than standard military grunt workout [03:06] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] fire|bird: nope, http://fpaste.org/GhC4/ i just added "nvidia" [03:07] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [03:09] deco: Hmm, looks good to me. There must be some other issue causing the slow down. [03:09] deco: and, shame on you for using a Fedora pastebin. :P [03:10] fire|bird: what ? it's the coolest pastbin :P [03:10] i love it [03:10] spider1010: I am preparing for the French Foreign Legions.It is like this the French government uses non-Frenchies and sens them into the most dangerous situations (so Frenchmen don't die). So they train like hell and most drop out. So teh only ones left are elite psycho muscled killers. [03:10] spider1010: I won't be one of the dropouts if I join [03:10] fire|bird: don't tell me you didn't like the highlighting feature :P [03:10] s/teh/the/g [03:11] Of course it is you moron I'm not arguing that. I'm sure your real elite. My whole point it don't sit and tell me about something your going to do tell me what you have done. I could tell you all day about how hearing bombs going off and being on post thinking it possible I might be shot. Hearing incoming over the loud speakers. Shit happens and do it or shut up. [03:11] fire|bird: it's only like that with GTK based DEs [03:11] and fonts look bad in fluxbox [03:11] but windows move fast [03:13] deco: that's odd. [03:13] fire|bird: xfce was fast in 12.2 just like gnome/xfce was in old distros for me [03:14] s/sens/sends/g [03:14] deco: Well, 12.2 had xfce 4.4 [03:15] fire|bird: using xfce, like right now i have firefox open and im moving the terminal around and it's fast but if i have no window opened and just have the wallpaper showing my windows are really slow [03:15] and if i minimise a window it takes a couple of seconds for the icons to show up [03:15] Peace everyone. I out. [03:16] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:17] god hates me :( [03:17] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:17] Action: deco cries [03:21] deco: how much RAM does that graphics card have again ? [03:21] Angevin: 32mb [03:22] deco: does it share system RAM if it needs to use more than 32 mb ? [03:22] i don't think so [03:22] heh ok [03:23] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.ftslgt stop" [03:23] deco: what kind of CPU ? [03:23] Angevin: amd athlon xp mobile 1.6ghz single core [03:24] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.28.166) joined ##slackware. [03:25] ok [03:25] I dunno me personally I wouldn't run anything other than NetBSD on old hardware except maybe OpenBSD but NetBSD is optimal choice [03:26] deco: you can run whatever you want though [03:26] i just installed slack13, sshd is running i cant connect... why? [03:27] Angevin: about about freebsd ? [03:27] what about* [03:27] stickyboy (n=hugo@196.202.207.45) joined ##slackware. [03:28] Azeotrope (n=azeotrop@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: [03:28] deco: FreeBSD will run decent on that probably but NetBSD is best for old hardware only reason to put FreeBSD on that machine instead of NetBSD is DRI. FreeBSD has more packages in ports than NetBSD pkgsrc but NetBSD does FreeBSD and Linux etc.. emulation of binaries [03:29] Angevin: thanks i might try that or debian [03:29] deco: I always custom and fine tune the NetBSD system to older hardware though because I know what I am doing [03:29] deco: that probably has something to do with why it runs so well for me on older hardware [03:29] but atm i'm sticking to use old kde on slakware [03:29] slackware* [03:29] yeah [03:30] deco: I have no idea why you would think debian would run better on older hardware than slackware that makes no sense [03:30] Angevin: my card works well on that [03:30] Angevin: debian lenny is older then slackware 13 [03:30] works [03:31] Angevin: i have tried it, it's not like i'm guessing [03:31] something in the modern distros is making my card slow down [03:32] deco: I would never trust the debian development model after ssh/ssl debachle [03:32] yeah i know :/ [03:32] deco: epic blunder [03:32] probly kernel architecture anyways peace i'm out g;night all [03:32] heh [03:32] can someone help me to get sshd working... i cant connect [03:32] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-119.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [03:32] slack13' [03:33] deco: what is the Xorg version number difference between slackware 13 and Debian lenny ? [03:33] Angevin: let me check [03:34] deco: I noticed that in newer versions of Xorg e.g. in OpenBSD 4.5 older nvidia cards like FX 5200 didn't work right they were buggy because no one was taking legacy support seriously in the Xorg commmunity [03:34] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [03:34] deco: OpenBSD is now at 4.6 though and my FX 5200 card works fine now [03:35] OpenBSD blackhole.earthlink.net 4.6 GENERIC#58 i386 [03:37] Angevin: for debian [03:37] xorg (1:7.3+20) X.Org X Window System [03:38] Angevin: i think that might be the problem the lack of legacy support [03:39] deco: what I woulddo is try the VESA driver and if it is not slow then you can be pretty sure it is not slackware's fault but Xorg's fault specifically the nvidia driver [03:39] Angevin: oh it works well with vesa and nv [03:40] deco: I meant in slackware not debian [03:40] Angevin: yeah i tried vesa and nv in slackware and it works well [03:40] deco: oh that is right you said you were using the nvidia driver not the nv driver originally right ? [03:40] Angevin: yeah [03:42] deco: so problem is solved now unless the nivida driver offers functionality that you want the nv driver doesn't eh ? [03:42] I never used the nvidia driver myself so I don't know much about it [03:42] I use nv [03:42] Angevin: i can't really watch full screen youtube videos with nv... and i need the nivida driver to use xbmc [03:43] smackdaddy, what's up with it? [03:43] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [03:43] deco: ah I see [03:44] thi is so weird [03:44] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [03:44] I personally never felt the need to watch a youtube video full screen but hey that is just me [03:44] haha [03:44] yeah hehe [03:45] some people here bug me to put it fullscreen :P [03:46] smackdaddy (n=gh@adsl-75-24-65-245.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [03:47] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.81.244) left irc: "Leaving" [03:47] linux users have more of a desktop attitude towards computing than BSD users do [03:47] varun (n=v@59.92.129.247) joined ##slackware. [03:48] Angevin: well non techies use this computer so ... 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[03:49] deco: you don't have to justify your want to see a youtube video full screen to me [03:49] Angevin: ok :P [03:50] Angevin: reading about netbsd , so it was used by nasa interesting [03:51] deco: yeah NASA just doesn't use it one capacity either but at least two to three [03:51] different ones [03:51] cool [03:52] for aerospace simulation I think and TCP/IP in satellites [03:52] maybe even more stuff too [03:52] yeah [03:53] deco: I run flash in opera in linux emulation on OpenBSD and I just tried to watch a youtube video fullscreen for the first time and it doesn't work [03:54] deco: but I don't care because I don't want to see it fullscreen really [03:54] hehe yeah [03:56] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:56] as long as I can watch movies in mplayer full screen I'm fine [03:56] yeah [03:57] /join lccsjce [03:57] varun (n=v@59.92.129.247) left ##slackware. [03:57] i really just have 3 options, keep on usin old kde 3.5 on slackware 13 or use slackware 12.2 or use debian [03:57] using* [03:59] well if there are no security reasons to use 13 over 12.2 then use 12.2 since lenny is older than 13 anyay [03:59] anahel (i=anahel@unaffiliated/anahel) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:59] s/anyay/anyway [03:59] Ekc__ (n=Ekc@weirdbox.ddns.playtime.bg) joined ##slackware. [03:59] deco: does that make logical sense ? [04:00] Angevin: yeah , i just do web development really [04:00] i'll just backport firefox from 13 to 12.2 [04:01] deco: are is the athlon XP 64 bit ? You want 64 bit slackware 13 ? [04:01] Angevin: it's 32bit [04:01] lccsjce (n=v@59.92.129.247) joined ##slackware. [04:01] deco: yeah then use 12.2 [04:02] geg_MoMeg (n=geg@95.71.115.109) joined ##slackware. [04:02] I can't believe I'm telling someone to run linux [04:02] I must have lost my mind [04:02] :P [04:02] Angevin: :) [04:02] Ekc_ (n=Ekc@87.121.52.9) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:02] http://fosscamp.lccsjce.org/index.html [04:03] lccsjce (n=v@59.92.129.247) left ##slackware. [04:03] Axius (n=fd@92.82.81.244) joined ##slackware. [04:06] Angevin: yeah thanks, i'm just gonna downgrade to 12.2 :) [04:06] fire|bird: btw thanks for trying to help me :) [04:06] deco: you're welcome [04:07] deco: your welcome but I find it hard to believe you couldn't or didn't think of that option already and you are just being nice to me by saying thanks [04:08] I meant it isn't a profound thought it is rather mundane [04:08] s/meant/mean/ [04:08] Angevin: i did have that in mind but you just kinda made me say duh! do it! 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[05:07] geg_MoMeg (n=geg@95.71.115.109) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:08] Hi. Are there any programs using swap so heavily as to justify more than 1GB of it nowadays? Does coredump need as much swap as memory installed? [05:09] no program explicitely use swap [05:09] how much ram do you have? [05:10] and do you plan to use suspend-to-disk a.k.a. hibernate? [05:11] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [05:11] Camarade_Tux, my machines are pretty old, usually 256 or 512 MB. [05:12] Camarade_Tux, no, not planning anything fancy. Only old shutdown. [05:14] well, it depends on what you usually do then, if 1GB + 256/512MB is enough, then go, otherwise increase the swap [05:14] I've been happily running with 2GB of memory and no swap (although I can activate it) for quite a long time now [05:16] Camarade_Tux, in fact, I had only once my swap really throttled, after opening 50+ phtographs with gimp by an error. 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[05:24] Old_Spike0: if you need a total of 1GB of memory, you need a total of 1.5GB of memory [05:24] the problem is that 512MB of ram and 1GB of memory may hurt, it would work but would maybe be really slow [05:25] martinus: you should rather ask in a python support channel I thinkk [05:26] python support, owh ok i will try to ask in python channel :) [05:28] Camarade_Tux, what I try to understand is the real use of the swap partition. I see overkill using 8GB of swap just because a machine has 4GB or RAM. [05:30] the idea is that if you need 4GB of ram, you may also use more one day and need that [05:30] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [05:30] it's to be safe [05:30] I see. [05:30] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-64-50.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [05:32] No that I am in need of such quantity of RAM, but is going to be common when I decide to upgrade hardware. 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[06:41] spook, : yaps [06:41] t0f, Does alsamixer come up? Are any of the channels muted? [06:42] the mixer is up, i'll chk for mutes [06:43] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [06:44] i see nothing muted that doesn't need to be. the mic is not muted but that produces no sound too [06:44] Well assuming everything is plugged in properly, I have no ideas. [06:45] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-104-155.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:45] did you ever see that syslog msg before? [06:46] t0f: google mentions that type of error message, for more things than just sblives [06:46] i googled it, but had no luck [06:47] oh? [06:47] but maybe it's a bug in a particular version of the kernel, do you use the huge one or the generic one? [06:47] Yeah, I doubt that message has anything to do with it. [06:47] custom [06:48] perhaps i should boot into my last 'known to work' compile [06:49] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.27) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:49] Action: t0f hates rebooting for no really good reason [06:51] martinus (n=martinus@117.103.52.217) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:51] It seems to me that it's a good reason. [06:51] martinus (n=martinus@117.103.52.217) joined ##slackware. [06:51] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.27) joined ##slackware. [06:51] i suppose [06:51] thanks [06:52] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-104-155.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:52] t0f (i=1000@4.238.249.174) left irc: [07:00] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-104-155.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:04] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-024-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:04] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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This time I'm the bug." [07:21] 13:16 Camarade_Tux : seems my external usb disk is sometimes disconnected [07:22] brunorusso_ (n=brunorus@189.100.231.229) joined ##slackware. [07:23] BrunoRusso (n=brunorus@189.100.231.229) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:23] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [07:23] htraki_ (n=htraki@dsl4E5C5E9A.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [07:23] andrew_50 (n=andrew@unaffiliated/andrew50/x-1857826) left irc: "leaving" [07:23] hi [07:24] Could someone tell me where do I find 3.5.3 firefox? [07:24] for slack 13 [07:24] e01 (n=OSCorp01@213.169.52.50) joined ##slackware. [07:24] usb suspend is not unstable but _insecure_ [07:25] htraki_: what? i'm pretty sure it's shipped with slackware 13 [07:25] mohaa: what do you mean? [07:25] MrJackson (i=Mr@173.86.34.173) joined ##slackware. [07:25] Mon Sep 14 01:49:32 CDT 2009 [07:25] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [07:25] xap/mozilla-firefox-3.5.3-i686-1.txz: Upgraded. [07:26] rg3: In dvd there is only firefox 3.5.2 [07:26] htraki_: hasn't it had a security update? [07:26] htraki_, upgraded [07:26] yes, there as been a security upgrade [07:27] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/patches/packages/ [07:27] htraki_: aren't you subscribed to slackware-security? [07:27] Camarade_Tux, insecure meaning "thou shall not even think about using it" [07:27] rg3: no [07:27] htraki_: you should, and follow security updates closely [07:27] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:29] wertik_ (n=wertik@95-27-65-218.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:30] mohaa: actually it's not marked as such in 2.6.32-rc1/2 [07:31] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [07:33] Camarade_Tux, said it from experience [07:34] mohaa: hehe :P [07:34] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [07:34] but it's the first time I have troubles with my disk [07:35] maybe I should back it up too :p [07:35] Action: Camarade_Tux wonders where he's going to find >500GB [07:35] brunorusso_ (n=brunorus@189.100.231.229) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:35] ARGH! [07:35] again [07:36] "laugh last him who has made back-up" [07:36] I do backups but not really for this disk [07:36] actually this disk also holds backups [07:36] dmesg empty [07:37] Camarade_Tux, you may have a 1To for less a ¬150 [07:37] 1To for less than 80 euros actually [07:37] this is a 1TB disk [07:38] yay [07:38] I'm more inclined to think it's the kernel since I recently upgraded and am using an -rc1 [07:38] htraki_ (n=htraki@dsl4E5C5E9A.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: "Leaving" [07:38] excusme, i got errror when installing wxPython from gsb [07:39] this is my errror message -> error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 [07:39] [07:39] martinus, /join #gsb [07:39] ok [07:40] Camarade_Tux, on RC kernels I usually have the verbose options ON [07:40] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:41] mohaa: well, I should too [07:41] first I need to finish a mail >< [07:42] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.28.166) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:45] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-27-64-50.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:46] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [07:50] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:50] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [07:51] t0f (i=1000@4.238.251.20) joined ##slackware. [07:51] it seems as though my sound blaster 'winked out'. i put the card into a different slot and it began working again. i sure hope that this mobo isn't beginning to flake out, now :\ [07:53] Nick change: wertik_ -> wertik_rus [07:53] ronald (n=ronald@204.116.241.77) joined ##slackware. [07:55] good morning. i'm getting these errors when working on a compressed bz2 file with ark. [07:55] kdeinit4: Shutting down running client. [07:55] kdeinit4: Communication error with launcher. Exiting! [07:55] kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_klauncher.so [07:56] and ark hangs. I have to force it to quit. [07:56] what kind of operations are you doing? [07:57] just opening the file [07:57] how big is it? [07:57] also [07:57] Thunar: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Did not receive a reply. [07:58] hmmmmmmmm [07:58] full install or partial? [07:58] Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. [07:58] full install of Slackware [07:58] also after that there is [07:58] Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-ronald" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. [07:59] try running the following in a terminal: ps aux |grep dbus [07:59] how which dbus* does it return? [08:00] dbus-daemon about 4 times [08:00] dbus-launch about 2 [08:00] actually daemon is about 3 times [08:01] 1 daemon and 1 launch running as rondald, the rest as root [08:01] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-145-45.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [08:01] could that permission error be the cause? [08:02] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-27.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [08:02] because I have to run sudo thunar. if i try to just run thunar as root it says it can't find the display. [08:03] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:03] btw where is the right path to put python library in slackware system ? [08:03] and "sudo thunar" works well? [08:03] in /usr/lib or in /usr/lib/python ? [08:04] Camarade_Tux: well, the thunar seems to work though it's giving the dbus connection error [08:04] which i don't get when running as normal user [08:05] julm (n=julm@ANice-252-1-3-15.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:06] you mean you don't get the error or you don't get thunar? [08:06] L1nuxer (n=L1nuxer@201-1-51-48.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:06] no error [08:06] martinus: what's your problem with python? it's not finding it's patH? [08:07] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:07] ronald: the two errors are most likely linked, I guess ark uses dbus even though it's not mentionning it [08:07] i trying to run pysvn workbench, but i got error like this -> http://pastebin.ca/1641451 [08:07] now, I'm a bit clueless [08:08] i see [08:08] i checked, a pysvn lib on /usr/lib/pysvn not in /usr/lib/python2.6 dir [08:09] i don't know if this would apply to you though i had to put export PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages [08:09] in .bashrc [08:10] mrselfpwn, : owh ok, i will try now [08:10] oh, the module isn't in the python2.6 dir? [08:10] remember to . .bashrc after you edit it. [08:10] ok [08:11] well Camarade_Tux how can i just run thunar as root instead of having to sudo thunar? that may fix it [08:11] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-104-155.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:12] ronald: when you change your user to root, you lose some session information, among which those for the display [08:12] mrselfpwn, : still errror -> http://pastebin.ca/1641457 [08:13] ronald, why are yourunning thunar as root? [08:14] stunix (i=1000@80.239.44.82) joined ##slackware. [08:14] to work on some compressed files to build a package. i need to edit the configure file [08:15] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:15] ronald: hmmmm, who owns the files you're trying to edit? [08:16] root [08:16] martinus: not 100% sure. i don't have those modules in my PYTHONPATH [08:17] i get the failed to connect to dbus error upon starting sudo thunar. [08:17] not when starting ark. [08:17] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166036094.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:17] so, how can i load a pysvn module ? [08:17] yes, but who owns the .bz2 file? [08:19] root [08:20] martinus: not sure. sounds like a dependency? [08:20] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-32-12.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:20] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@82.50.251.2) joined ##slackware. [08:20] ronald: can't you change the ownership? [08:21] ronald, : yups maybe [08:21] but pysvn already installed, why pysvn workbench can't find it ?? [08:21] :D [08:24] i can, now when i attempt to open the file with ark as normal user i getConfiguration file "/home/ronald/.kde/share/config/arkrc" not writable. [08:24] Please contact your system administrator. [08:24] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:25] should i delete that file? [08:25] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [08:27] martinus (n=martinus@117.103.52.217) left irc: "Leaving" [08:27] well, i think i may have fixed why i was getting the error about user [08:28] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-203-166.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:28] i did chown -R ronald:users /home/ronald [08:28] and as soon as i did it said kde4init starting or something like that [08:28] and now i don't get the error when opening ark as normal user [08:29] hello slackers [08:30] hey! i'm a hard working slacker :) [08:30] ronald: good :) [08:30] Action: Camarade_Tux waves at akira42 [08:31] john_dee (n=id@93-81-137-215.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [08:33] okay, thanks again. i'm off [08:33] ronald (n=ronald@204.116.241.77) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:36] qneo (n=knao@91.127.109.60) left ##slackware. [08:39] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.227.14.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [08:46] hy (i=cenobite@87.253.140.201) joined ##slackware. [08:46] Azeotrope (n=azeotrop@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [08:47] hi guys.. trying updating old box from 10.2 to 13.. 11 went fine but from there i went to 12.2 and got into trouble with glibc-solibs + old kernel (fatal: kernel too old etc). using bootdisk now and trying to fix things :x [08:47] why does FF not even know how to open a directory in slackware 13.0 64? [08:47] How can I auto umount an luks encrypted partition at logout? [08:47] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [08:51] hy: you'd better just backup your data, format and reinstall from scratch [08:51] gnubien (n=e@58.244.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:52] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [08:52] Azeotrope: what? [08:52] try file:// [08:53] like, for example, file:///home [08:53] f~Camarade_Tux i got it booting from hd now, just as soon as it goes into runlevel 3 it runs ldconfig and stuff gets fooked up again. gonna boot into single mode now and install new kernel asap :) [08:53] if that doesnt work ill go back to my 10.2 backup ye. tho that would be admitting a loss [08:54] rg, my encrypted partition gets automounted at login (using pam_mount). if i reboot, it is encrypted. but if i log out and then log in as another user, it is visible [08:55] hy: well, boot from something else, copy your data and format, what can I say? [08:55] t0f (i=1000@4.238.251.20) left irc: [08:56] jiraia (n=jiraia@2406:a000:f0ff:ffff:0:0:0:39) joined ##slackware. [08:57] nheco (n=nheco@201-35-189-191.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:00] f~Camarade_Tux not looking for easy way out, just having fun. would like to get it working my way just for the science of it, thanks for the advise tho ;) [09:01] Azeotrope: sorry, i confused your like with the one from delt0r___, a line above, and it was him who i was supposed to reply :) [09:02] delt0r___: please try file:// as in file:///home [09:04] rg3, do you know how can i make that volume to autodismount at logout? [09:04] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:04] Azeotrope: no, sorry, i know nothing about what you asked [09:05] one more thing if i may. my transmission-daemon forgets after reboot the torrents i've put in the web GUI. any idea why? [09:05] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [09:05] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-4579afa2.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [09:09] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.90.119) left irc: "Leaving." 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[09:21] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.75.22) left irc: "Leaving" [09:24] rg3: When I go to the download windows and "open containing directory" it keeps asking for an application to --well open the directory [09:24] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:24] ops... sorry rg3 has left --anyone else? [09:27] Zordrak_ (n=jaz@87.194.141.163) joined ##slackware. [09:34] Axius (n=ojof@92.82.75.22) joined ##slackware. [09:35] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [09:35] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:35] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [09:36] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-104-155.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:37] confrey (n=dario@151.59.27.69) joined ##slackware. [09:39] Emeau (n=Emeau@92.140.7.155) joined ##slackware. [09:40] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.238.21) joined ##slackware. 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[10:26] morning BP{k} :) [10:31] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:31] morning everyone [10:31] ricardobarbosa__ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:389) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:34] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [10:36] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:38] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:39] mwnn (n=user@59.92.184.137) joined ##slackware. [10:40] Hi, i have built and installed Emacs 23 using the official slackbuild script. But now i do not find entry for org-mode in the info pages. [10:43] Axius (n=fd@92.85.208.221) joined ##slackware. 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[10:55] ienh (n=ienh@ARennes-353-1-64-132.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:57] Level-Zero (n=Level-Ze@196.202.27.173) joined ##slackware. [10:57] hello [10:59] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [10:59] Is Clisp a implementation of Lisp? [10:59] Azeotrope (n=azeotrop@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [10:59] yes [11:00] hi Level-Zero [11:00] hi [11:00] hi [11:01] hi _MaggoT_, hi g4tt0, hi hitest, hi BP{k}, hi Scuzz, hi mwnn [11:01] <_MaggoT_> hi [11:01] Action: Camarade_Tux thinks he did his backlog [11:01] ^^ [11:01] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: Client Quit [11:01] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [11:01] Camarade_Tux: bonjour, ca va? [11:01] howdy Camarade_Tux [11:02] BP{k}: bien, merci, et toi ? :) [11:02] shower time :) [11:02] Camarade_Tux: oui, ca va bien, merci. [11:02] hiya Camarade_Tux:) [11:02] :) [11:06] julm_ (n=julm@ANice-252-1-27-1.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:09] yasu (n=adminroo@tetkyo039020.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) left irc: "leaving" [11:10] julm (n=julm@ANice-252-1-3-15.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:10] Nick change: julm_ -> julm [11:14] Krux0 (n=richard@ool-4579afa2.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:15] hackeron (n=hackeron@78.33.200.139) joined ##slackware. [11:15] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-32-12.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:15] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [11:16] htraki (n=htraki@dsl4E5C5E9A.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [11:17] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.208.221) left irc: "Leaving" [11:20] I am unable to eject cdrom, because of permission problems. What should I change ? I get this when using eject http://pastebin.com/m404f64b5 [11:20] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) joined ##slackware. [11:20] Almost forgot! As user [11:21] ad yourself to cdrom group? [11:21] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [11:21] Already done [11:21] greetings [11:21] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:21] hows it going slackers [11:21] does it show if you type "groups" ? [11:22] bueller? [11:23] htraki disk lp wheel floppy audio video cdrom rpc ftp messagebus haldaemon power scanner users [11:23] htraki: are you part of the plugdev group? Isn't the user account occupying the resource (meaning that you must not be browsing the dir when you want to umount it) [11:23] anyways, thats enough to eject [11:23] I just added myself to that group, only did not relogin [11:23] pupit1 (n=pupit@93.86.1.213) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:24] I am currently skyping [11:24] so what you showed me as groups was not what it was but after you saw it was wrong and re-logged in [11:24] right, bueller? [11:25] ok, thanks [11:25] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:26] htraki (n=htraki@dsl4E5C5E9A.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: "Leaving" [11:26] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.213) joined ##slackware. [11:26] maybe a stupid question..but i got alot more tools than what shows in the menus in xfce..is there a way to put all the pkgs in the menus? [11:27] as anyone followed alienBOB's tutorial to install compat32 packages on Slackware64 (I'm talking about this one http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ ) [11:27] ? [11:27] you need to set that up TheCroup [11:27] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.208.221) joined ##slackware. [11:28] mancha: what do you mean? [11:28] my question is : is it really worth redoing all the conversion job when Alien provides a repository of compat32 packages ? [11:29] here : http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/slackware64-compat32/ [11:29] The-Croup, meaning you need a desktop entry for the app so it shows up in the menu [11:29] Gulug (n=old-time@189.56.21.197) joined ##slackware. [11:29] IceW (n=old-time@189.56.21.197) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:31] L1nuxer (n=L1nuxer@201-1-51-48.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:32] mancha: trying to find desktop entry? what does it mean? [11:33] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:34] trying to find data files..and stuff i read from the internet..but ...:( no luck...not getting it [11:34] Action: The-Croupier has been sick for 3days now..maybe all these pills [11:34] L1nuxer (n=L1nuxer@189-46-128-249.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:35] okay, The-Croup, you want to add in an entry for say MyApp just like Amarok in "Multimedia" ? [11:35] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.43.251) joined ##slackware. [11:35] rlood (n=rlood@88-199-90-14.tktelekom.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:36] kind of yes..but im sure there are lots in my computer..even like kde apps..etc... [11:36] oh sounds like you want to "sweep" automatically. can't help you there. [11:36] Lucy (n=Luz@99.162.239.154) joined ##slackware. [11:36] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:79b) joined ##slackware. [11:37] greetings all [11:38] _MaggoT_ (n=Newbie@125.166.91.165) left irc: "Leaving" [11:38] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:39] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:39] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.208.221) left irc: "Leaving" [11:39] wonders what hrdware others are using [11:40] Darkomen (n=Dark@122.144.113.237) joined ##slackware. [11:41] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-32-12.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:42] people give me their old pc cause they think they are garbage, so i wound up w/box newer than my first build...lol [11:43] the pc r not junk, just that windows crashed on them [11:43] so i just pop slackware into them and they all work [11:44] Lucy: slackware just works ;) [11:45] if its a digital device..you put slackware in it..its a 99% chance it will work ;) [11:46] lol... yup .. but recently i came up on a cple of problems.. strangely with the newest of them all [11:48] my favorite has been my PIII 600E, no other linux os wld run on it when i first tried linux [11:51] has been reading, seems i have Pentium 4 3.2Ghz, on intel btx915g (southlake2) mobo, w/ hyper threading and have installed 12.2 on it [11:52] is this the cpu type that smp was written for? [11:53] The Hyper Threading makes cpu and system work like two processors? [11:53] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.27) left irc: "Thanks for the fish" [11:53] yes [11:53] sort of [11:54] hmm ;) what is the sort of part? [11:55] Darkomen (n=Dark@122.144.113.237) left ##slackware. [11:55] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-16-29.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [11:56] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:79b) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:56] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [11:56] welcome aceofspales19... what is on your mind [11:57] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:59] josteint (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:59] Action: hitest wanders off to have some breakfast.....toast:) [12:00] thnx for reminding me.. mine is in microwave [12:02] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:03] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@207.216.16.29) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:04] Lucy, you microwave your toast? 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[12:14] deco: started playing ACDC ;-) [12:14] Camarade_Tux: oi! oi! oi! [12:14] Camarade_Tux: besides lua being a PITA. [12:14] oatmeal, rasins, peaches [12:14] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] deco: not yet ;-) [12:14] :P [12:14] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "leaving" [12:14] Camarade_Tux, the stepmania sources are just old old old. I ended up having to dig through the arch repo to find a way to build it. There is a big patch series to make it compatible with new lua, ffmpeg, 64bit... etc [12:15] he [12:15] ok, going to buy some food, bbl :) [12:16] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [12:17] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:18] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:19] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [12:21] is there a desktop chat channel? [12:22] vmhobbes (n=c@112.201.1.212) joined ##slackware. [12:22] Lucy: what do you mean ? [12:25] .... [12:25] mab (n=max@unaffiliated/mab) joined ##slackware. [12:27] channel like slackware for discussing different wmanagers [12:28] Lucy: well there is #KDE for kde, #XFCE for xfce etc. [12:28] have basic ques don't think r appropriate for this channel [12:28] Lucy, considering you appeared in #KDE earlier this week, one would assume you'd remember ;) [12:28] lol [12:29] ....... [12:29] first time irc visit... wondering if i shld bother w/ KDE [12:30] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[12:39] sure to install doesn't mean ti will work [12:39] v3gard: yes [12:39] v3gard, Yeah I have the same problem, although I don't think it is actually entirely firefox's fault but more flash [12:39] v3gard: I have mplayer and flash at the same time [12:39] I have no /dev/dsp with this kernel though ;p [12:39] Lucy: chances are it will [12:40] is 0 for 2 ...lol [12:40] Lucy: what is your graphics card. [12:40] thinking about 3 ..lol [12:41] mab (n=max@unaffiliated/mab) left irc: "booting slackware" [12:41] NV43 Geforce 6600 [12:41] v3gard: i also have flash and mplayer dvd playing at the same time [12:42] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host81-132-218-72.range81-132.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:43] Lucy: That should work pretty well. [12:43] have followed posts and wiki and tuts .. started wondering if it was my hdware setup [12:44] I use a: "nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)" without any problems with nvidia drivers. [12:44] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:44] http://i.imgur.com/OmIwh.jpg ^^ [12:45] used NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.36-pkg1.run [12:46] i use the same [12:46] works well [12:46] you using slack-13 ? [12:46] or 12.* [12:46] no... 12.2 [12:47] get blackscreen after kde wizard [12:47] you not into trying 13 at all ? [12:48] chloros (n=taqois@111.69.243.21) joined ##slackware. [12:48] initializing service, then black screen w working mouse [12:48] i havnt came across that [12:49] found quite a few post related to same issue but no resolution [12:49] y try 13? [12:49] bro Camarade_Tux: in image http://i.imgur.com/OmIwh.jpg what is software used to show system resources ? [ not top & htop ] [12:49] i dont know [12:49] why not try it [12:50] Level-Zero: conky [12:50] Level-Zero: it's in slackbuilds.org if you want it [12:50] ok [12:51] lol, don't trust the automated xorg.config w/proprietary nvidia... chnges the order of things and xorg.conf is iliminated in 13? Don't understand Y? [12:52] i use xorg in 13 [12:52] works well [12:52] nvidia drivers will create it [12:52] Lucy: Do you think it is too much effort to type *all* the letters in a sentence? [12:53] i dunno you tell us prof grammar [12:53] lol.. short hand [12:53] shortbus more like it. [12:53] but no [12:53] mwnn (n=user@59.92.184.137) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:53] i don't think its too much effort [12:53] my shortbus is awesome-o [12:54] afternoon BP{k} [12:54] afternoo Lucy Scuzz and the rest of the ## possie [12:54] salut acidchild [12:54] hey [12:54] .... [12:55] thank you acidchild [12:55] deco: :> [12:56] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:56] doesn't usually upgrade till the 2nd or 3rd version of any slackware changes [12:56] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [12:56] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) joined ##slackware. [12:57] Naraku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:57] watches the slackware forum to see what issues people are running into [12:57] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-131-171.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:58] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [12:58] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-146-82.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [12:59] i hv got hp dv4 laptop which has this touch sensitive volume strip.. how can i get it working in xfce [13:00] Stanto (n=nnscript@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:01] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [13:01] figabo (n=Slacker@96.9.182.21) joined ##slackware. [13:01] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.73.27) joined ##slackware. [13:01] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:03] L1nuxer (n=L1nuxer@189-18-185-94.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [13:04] macroron (n=ron@c-98-254-46-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:04] jemark (n=mark@ip-62-143-39-202.unitymediagroup.de) joined ##slackware. [13:05] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:06] passenger22 (n=g3nk0@92.56.130.140) joined ##slackware. [13:07] giuppy (n=giuppy@host31-160-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [13:08] chloros (n=taqois@111.69.243.21) left ##slackware. [13:08] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:10] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-183-112.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [13:10] hi fire|bird [13:10] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:11] hi Lucy [13:11] have to run will be back later... [13:11] Lucy (n=Luz@99.162.239.154) left irc: "Leaving" [13:11] geg_MoMeg (n=geg@95.71.115.131) joined ##slackware. [13:12] neonflux (n=neonflux@nmd.sbx05686.santaca.wayport.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:13] geg_MoMeg (n=geg@95.71.115.131) left irc: Client Quit [13:13] geg_MoMeg (n=geg@95.71.115.131) joined ##slackware. [13:14] Tirili (n=opera@kel30.kel.stud.uni-goettingen.de) joined ##slackware. [13:14] What will be the disadvantage, if I disable nepomukservices? 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[14:09] elisdj (n=jeo@c-24-5-73-175.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:09] hello troll [14:10] how are you [14:10] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [14:12] is there a way to blacklist certain packages from updating [14:12] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.164.136) joined ##slackware. [14:13] hi there! [14:13] CarinJurado, with slackpkg? slackpkg blacklist packagename.. [14:13] great! [14:14] is there a way to get slackpkg to use a dvdrom as the source [14:15] makerc (n=makerc@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [14:16] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-163-165.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:17] anka-ar (n=andres@unaffiliated/anka-ar) joined ##slackware. [14:18] anyone knws wth do crda? [14:18] do i just use http://localhost/dvdrom mirror [14:18] crda? [14:19] its a package under N [14:20] ftp://ftp.belnet.be/packages/slackware/slackware-13.0/source/n/crda/slack-desc [14:20] i dont know what means central regulatory domain agent [14:21] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:22] less /var/log/packages/crda* [14:22] look for files that will tell you what it is and what it does [14:22] geg_MoMeg (n=geg@95.71.115.131) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [14:22] fhobia (n=fhobia@67.188.69.121) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [14:23] i installed slackware before but as desktop => Full install , now i want to install server only [ no X of course ] , LAMP web ftp mail mysql php iptables gnupg nmap ...etc , what is the suitable software series ? A series (base system) & N series (Networking programs) enough ? during installation choose expert or custom { and read more about tagfiles } , any advice ? [14:24] slackware has lamp? [14:24] has apache.. [14:24] mysql [14:24] .. [14:24] i love lamp [14:24] and phpx [14:25] not a lamp package [14:25] Level-Zero: you need L series too [14:26] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:26] today there's been the Linux Day in Italy :P [14:26] ok L Libraries. Dynamically [14:26] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:27] custom shows you one by one package [14:27] its a waste of time [14:28] you can read the tagfile from the ftp [14:28] and use expert [14:28] checking what package you want to install [14:28] like [14:28] the [14:28] enter [14:28] Channel flood from mancha -- kicking [14:28] key? [14:28] mancha kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [14:28] id just uncheck X and kde and install the rest...then you can remove other stuff later without spending 5 hours on the install [14:28] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:29] exactly [14:29] idiot [14:30] nachox: are you talking to me [14:30] no [14:30] to me? [14:30] hey nachox, how's it going? [14:30] server need A,L, N series only ? then what? expert :) no need tagfiles [14:30] to mancha, he is a regular, he should have known slackboy'd kick him :) [14:31] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.164.136) left irc: "+-||\-" [14:31] anyone knows wth is crda? [14:31] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.22.251) joined ##slackware. [14:32] if you promise to use the enter key i'll explain that it works with udev to give you wireless joy [14:32] s/usr/not use/ [14:32] someone already answered you anka-ar [14:32] anka-ar: as root => slackpkg info crda [14:32] crda is for the wireless stack [14:32] i read from the the site [14:32] http://linuxwireless.org/en/developers/Regulatory [14:32] mancha, heh [14:33] then why are you asking about it still? [14:33] but.., i'm not engeneer [14:34] janemba (n=back@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:34] janemba (n=back@82.247.118.210) joined ##slackware. [14:34] figabo (n=Slacker@96.9.182.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:34] i dont know what is a regulatory domain [14:35] :$ [14:35] ... [14:35] gades (n=gades@190.33.62.19) joined ##slackware. [14:35] you knew how to search for crda but some force prevents you from doing the same against regulatory domain? [14:35] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:36] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [14:37] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.22.251) left irc: "Leaving" [14:37] NEITHER DO I [14:37] Hey guys, someone could solve hang when closing laptop lid? [14:37] repeat, i'm not engeneer [14:37] but i definately want to learn, so i might use the google [14:37] Axius (n=ojof@92.85.22.251) joined ##slackware. [14:37] fiyawerx (n=gentoo@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] repeat: search for the term to learn about it. [14:38] anka-ar: it's a list of frequencies for wireless communication allowed to use in specific country [14:38] you don't need to be an engineer to know what a regulatory domain is. [14:38] dang [14:38] someone? [14:38] john_dee: :O [14:38] ok.. [14:38] figabo (n=Slacker@96.9.182.21) joined ##slackware. [14:39] acidtripper: disable hibernate / suspsend? [14:39] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:39] mm, the idea is to suspend when closing lid [14:40] so.., crda update the frecuencies into the kernel, updating their db? [14:40] i know what a reg domain is but i don't know what an engineer is [14:40] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [14:40] engeneer [14:40] spell it wrong [14:40] anka-ar: ye [14:40] thanks [14:40] :) [14:40] engineegro [14:40] lol [14:40] XD [14:40] sorry [14:41] i'm from argentina [14:41] anka-ar im from argentina too! [14:41] i'm sorry about that anka-ar [14:41] acidtripper: o/ [14:41] mancha: X'D [14:41] im from the best country in the world [14:41] what part of argentina [14:42] capital federal [14:42] hey, nobody could solve problem when closing lid? [14:42] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:42] couse when i susped pc suspend without problem [14:42] acidchild: thats not easy to fix [14:42] but when close lid [14:42] ACIDTRIPPER [14:42] CarinJurado: im from the best country in the world ? what :) [14:42] not acidchild [14:42] why carin? [14:42] does 4 of a kind beat full house? [14:42] yep, it's a poker [14:43] damn [14:43] tooly (n=tooly@f053078116.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:43] shouldnt have folded before the flop eh [14:43] now i haev 3 4's on next hand :p [14:43] acidtripper: where are you from? [14:43] Neuquen [14:43] :O [14:43] i have a hose in neuquen [14:43] house [14:43] only a straight fluish beats a poker, which means you should not be playing the game [14:43] why is not easy to fix? [14:44] yea? in what part of nqn? [14:44] 14 de octubre [14:44] :P [14:44] nqn capital [14:44] in fornt of.., alta barda [14:44] :P [14:44] and i lagged out...so i quit [14:45] ja, who lives there? [14:45] esta alquilada [14:45] :P [14:46] i live 10 years in nqn [14:46] lived* [14:46] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] quite and beatiful city [14:47] frk (n=frkbr@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [14:47] lived [14:47] yes [14:48] ja [14:48] andreas--- (n=andy@ppp079166036094.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:48] any configuration guide for slack there? [14:48] anka? [14:48] a guide? [14:49] ja, i will have to search through slackwiki [14:50] tooly (n=tooly@f053078116.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:50] you need to read one by one package [14:51] the first time that i installed slack i come here and ask what packages are necesary [14:51] "install everyting" [14:51] o_O [14:52] i installed everything [14:52] but i have to take some time and configure it in a good way+ [14:53] ajap [14:53] someone know where is kdmrc situated? [14:53] "necessary" varies by need (clearly) so it's an ill-formed question. therefore the best answer was probably seen to be "install it all" [14:53] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC315F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [14:53] if you didn't like the support i'd recommend filling out a "refund request" form [14:53] thats why i asked if there's any guide to follow in order to dont search trough all web and wiki the tutorials [14:53] hey i shouldn't have to reboot a router after opening a port, should i? doesn't the port open after i save the configuration? [14:54] /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc [14:54] you have to apply the configuration [14:54] antler, as i know it applies after saving [14:54] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [14:54] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [14:55] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [14:56] hmm. Would anyone like to help me get some hardware working? I finally got stepmania to build and i need to get input from my dance pad to be recognized :) [14:56] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.227.14.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:56] hemsley (n=chatzill@189.107.18.193) joined ##slackware. [14:56] is there a dance game for linux? [14:57] achiiquiiipaaappaaa [14:57] achiiiquiippaaapapaaa [14:57] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] yes [14:57] lsusb says Bus 003 Device 002: ID 044f:0f12 ThrustMaster, Inc. There is a kernel config setting for Thrustmaster_HID which i have set to 'y' [14:57] acidtripper, StepMania [14:57] Also pydance, but pydance is terrible by comparison. [14:57] i hated that games :P, lot of people playing it and some others seeing in game machines [14:58] I love it :) But i need my usb pad to work [14:58] you ACTUALLY dance in front of the computer? [14:59] antler, it's great. [14:59] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [14:59] searched in google? [14:59] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:59] i'm in the process of [15:00] modprobe and the module of the dancepad? [15:00] in kernel you compiled as module or built in? [15:00] khaladu_kj (n=kiran@static-mum-59.181.128.74.mtnl.net.in) joined ##slackware. [15:00] acidtripper, built-in it looks like. although nothing is happening [15:01] i had to build a stepmania machine for work [15:01] compile it as module [15:01] and an arcade mame machine :p [15:02] :D nice [15:02] and then do modprobe $padmodule [15:02] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [15:02] in which $padmodule is the name of the module [15:02] I am building some modules now. I did not include generic joystick support some how. [15:02] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [15:02] carin you where the one sho posted some photos of a mame machine with a pc inside? [15:02] no [15:02] usb, and all that [15:03] but thats what it is [15:03] andreas-- (n=andy@ppp079166036094.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:03] just a pc, and a bunch of wires and switches to the buttons...and an lcd jammed int he cabinet [15:03] compiling... [15:03] aahh couse i saw some cool pics about it [15:03] and some hacked speaker wire thing [15:03] its easy to do [15:03] yes, is to connect a pc to tv and a joystick, im planning to make a media center for my beedroom [15:04] mak sure you buy extra button switches thugh...cuz they do break over time [15:04] to see dvds, play some mame and sega zsnes games [15:04] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) joined ##slackware. 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[15:22] "The goverment should do more to help drug addicts" if you have any for or against argument, it will be considered :P [15:23] this sounds exactly like what i was forced to write about in my English language module when i took bachelor in network security [15:23] "argue for or against child abortion" [15:23] the point is to do some research [15:23] find some references that backs up your own statements [15:24] yes but its for practice this im sitting for igces [15:24] igcse [15:24] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [15:27] Action: ananke still has no clue what acidtripper is talking about [15:28] a for and aginst essay [15:28] to express my opinion of determinated topic [15:29] hope that's not in english [15:29] Stanto (n=nnscript@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:29] yes it is :P [15:30] good luck. you'll need it. 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[16:34] a likely story [16:35] it was fire|bird [16:35] that bashtard! [16:36] lol... BASHtard :D [16:36] i died a little on the inside when you laughed at that [16:36] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [16:36] wasn't that cool? [16:37] metrofox: Hmm, blaming me while I'm not even around, eh? :) [16:38] :fiu [16:39] you arent around? [16:39] wtf [16:39] it seems to be =) [16:40] I wasn't when he was blaming me. [16:41] sorry fire|bird, I was just joking ;) [16:41] Oleg_ (n=oleg@pool-173-52-198-188.nycmny.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] metrofox: uh huh, sure you were. :P [16:42] NOT FUNNY [16:42] yarvin (n=yarvin@105-200-58-66.gci.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:43] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host39-26-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:44] you go to hell and you die! [16:44] alkos333 (n=alkos333@adsl-75-57-140-177.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:45] :O [16:45] naaa I won't -.-ù [16:45] Oleg_ (n=oleg@pool-173-52-198-188.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:45] [:< [16:46] you hacked my gibson [16:47] easy (n=easy@unaffiliated/easy) joined ##slackware. [16:47] ahah!!! I found your weakness [16:47] easy (n=easy@unaffiliated/easy) left ##slackware. [16:48] thats what umoms said [16:49] CarinJurado: are you spanish? [16:50] ive got a little bit of everything in me [16:50] so the answer is no [16:51] well... I'll be right back =) [16:51] Stanto (n=nnscript@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: No route to host [16:52] paissad-hp (n=paissad@89.87.195.22) joined ##slackware. [16:53] ooh, looks like my schedule is shaping up nicely for next semester [16:56] woah, slack was updated [16:56] new kde [16:57] ORLY [16:57] yup [16:57] 4.3.2 [16:57] -current? [16:57] i just yeah [16:57] err [16:57] *yeah [16:58] i just switched to xfce a few days ago though, so not much good for me [16:58] i might update 12.2 to -current if i blacklist kde [16:58] you know 13.0 came out? [16:58] yes [16:58] i might update to that too if i blacklist kde and xfce [16:58] you still on kde 3? [16:59] how do i tell [16:59] yea 3.5.10 [16:59] if it looks like windows vista, it's v4 [16:59] :P [16:59] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [16:59] no crap [16:59] thats why you switched to xfce [17:00] yeah [17:00] i used it for a few months, but it just wasn't working [17:00] i figured that out after 3 minutes [17:00] only improvement was the yatzee game [17:00] :p [17:00] thats it [17:00] amarok upset me the most. it went from being a player that my friends literally ooh'd and aah'd over, to being so awful that i'm using songbird now [17:01] rlood (n=rlood@88-199-90-14.tktelekom.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [17:01] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:01] get new friends [17:03] s0d0 (n=bggr@host81-141-48-27.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] my friends ooh and ahh when i open up 15 terminals and do work [17:03] not when i play my shitty music [17:05] haha [17:05] well i of course have the set of friends that ooh and ahh when i start multiplexing terminals and what not [17:05] what does taht mean [17:06] straterr1 (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [17:06] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:06] it means i have "nerd" friends that are impressed by cool technical stuff, and "normal" friends (windows/osx users), who are more impressed by a well designed media player [17:06] lol, what did you think it meant [17:07] oh wait... you meant what does multiplexing terminals mean, didn't you [17:07] yeah [17:07] tabs? [17:07] haha oh. have you heard of gnu screen? [17:07] ah yeah [17:07] how the hell do you scroll history in screen btw [17:08] always needed to know that [17:08] ctrl-a, esc [17:08] that puts you in copy mode where you can scroll around [17:08] there is probably a direct shortcut for scrolling though [17:09] julm (n=julm@ANice-252-1-27-1.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:09] cool [17:09] julm (n=julm@ANice-252-1-27-1.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:09] how do i repair a pdf doc [17:09] what's the problem with it [17:10] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:10] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:10] **** File has an unbalanced >> (close dictionary). **** Incorrect object count in object stream. GPL Ghostscript 8.63: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 [17:10] what'd you try to open it with? [17:10] ghostscript [17:11] did you try it with anythign else [17:11] trying xpdf [17:11] looks like its locked up... [17:11] not loading... but it is a 21mb file maybe i wait [17:11] oh wow, ok it loaded [17:12] ifc0nfig (n=fabianof@189.70.17.248) left irc: [17:16] efnet is a joke [17:16] hey i still need to repair this pdf if i can [17:18] CopyWriter (n=chatzill@190.213.17.197) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009090217]" [17:18] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:19] CarinJurado: too bad [17:20] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] john_dee (n=id@93-81-137-215.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:21] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:22] :( [17:22] sQuEE (n=narya@host236.201-252-58.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [17:22] CarinJurado: if it looks OK in xpdf, try printing it to a file (which will be a postscript file), then use ps2pdf on the result [17:23] reaperIII (n=reaperII@41.122.162.251) joined ##slackware. [17:23] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] k [17:24] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [17:24] although that seems not to work too well for pdfs that contain images... ugh [17:25] this is all images [17:25] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:26] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:26] if it's all images, you could maybe load it up in xpdf and do a screenshot of each page, then make a new pdf out of the screenshots (though if it's a lot of pages, that would be a chore) [17:26] lol [17:27] any time-warner users might want to scope this. http://chenosaurus.com/2009/10/ [17:27] yeah 174 pages [17:27] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-163-165.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:27] in soviet america time-warner uses u [17:27] lol [17:27] where'd you get the PDF? is it possible that it got mangled when you downloaded it, and you could maybe re-download it? [17:27] im afraid my dad wants to update to AT&Tumor uVerse [17:27] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] yuh i hear you [17:28] 12.2 \o/ [17:28] i know their router will be full of holes and trojans [17:28] and datamining crap [17:28] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:29] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:30] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@114-45-231-16.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:31] uva (i=bno@118-160-166-128.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:32] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:32] gsoares (n=gabriel@201-95-14-62.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:33] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] hi i have an issue with slackware64 [17:33] im searching for a while, and cant put the sound to work [17:33] tried a lot of different configurations on /etc/modprobe.d/sound [17:33] but none of them worked [17:34] dchmelik (n=d@66.243.232.25) joined ##slackware. [17:35] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:36] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [17:36] nixnix (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:38] nixchix0r (n=mrspwnag@75-104-27-191.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Success [17:40] gsoares (n=gabriel@201-95-14-62.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:40] well... go to bed now, see ya guys ;) [17:40] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.56.164.136) left irc: "+-||\-" [17:45] reaperIII (n=reaperII@41.122.162.251) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). 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[18:00] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:02] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:02] fiyawerx (n=gentoo@c-68-82-227-100.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:04] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Does anybody here know how GCC versions can be upgraded compatibility wise? I have a Slamd64 12.1 here... but for some software I need to have libgfortran.so.3... currently I only have .so.2. [18:05] Can I just take the buildscript and build and install a new GCC version without braking things? [18:08] feco (n=feco@catv-89-133-16-61.catv.broadband.hu) joined ##slackware. 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[18:18] son of a bitch [18:18] upgrading perl broke urxvt :/ [18:18] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [18:18] (I just noticed it when I saw that url) [18:19] man, cpan says the offending module is up to date [18:19] I'm going to have to recompile urxvt, damnit [18:19] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop." [18:22] Prince_Ig0r (n=Ig0r@Tribalero.Atlantica.US) joined ##slackware. [18:24] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [18:25] it there a built in mp3 to free format converter included with slackware [18:26] What exactly is ffmpeg? Is it just a library? Stepmania depends on ffmpeg and doing any songs with background video causes stepmania to crash [18:27] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.22.13) joined ##slackware. [18:30] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [18:30] anyone here ever use the ever-gay debian ? [18:31] ever-gay? [18:31] whatever [18:31] always-gay [18:32] like jeev's dad [18:32] jeev, what's so gay about it [18:33] everything and it's mother has a required patch [18:33] heaumer: i have [18:33] grrrr [18:33] jeev: i have [18:33] I never encountered stuff that needed patches with Debian. [18:33] I did dislike the monstrous dependency lists. [18:34] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:34] kernel [18:34] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-167-55.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:34] im trying to rebuild the xen kernel [18:34] Like needing the Avahi package because support for it was compiled into Pidgin. o_O [18:35] rpg (n=rpg@CPE000fb5dad35f-CM00152fba8904.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:35] i want to install libraries in a local dir [18:35] what env vars do i need [18:35] Nick change: rpg -> Guest17751 [18:35] such as $PATH and $MANPATH [18:35] what about for lib and include [18:36] Nick change: Guest17751 -> razel [18:36] installpkg --root local/dir/here [18:37] installpkg --root ~/usr or ~/usr/lib ? [18:37] aiiiii (n=user@213.149.138.60) joined ##slackware. [18:37] no wait [18:37] im not using pkg [18:37] from source [18:37] ./configure --help [18:37] in the directory of the source [18:39] lol [18:39] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.26.48) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:39] aiiiii (n=user@213.149.138.60) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:40] Did I miss a joke? [18:40] ok i have 2 dirs...lib/ and prog/....i installed lib using --prefix=~/usr/ ; now when i do ./configure inside prog/ it says lib not found [18:41] there has to be a var that tells where to look for these libs, such as $PATH for executables [18:41] andreas--- (n=andy@ppp079166036094.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:41] does that make sense [18:47] Naraku (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:48] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:50] razel (n=rpg@CPE000fb5dad35f-CM00152fba8904.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:56] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:56] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [19:00] josefig (n=JoseFig@201.144.87.40) joined ##slackware. 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[19:38] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:40] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Changing server" [19:41] josefig (n=JoseFig@201.144.87.40) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:41] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-203-166.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:42] josefig (n=JoseFig@201.144.87.40) joined ##slackware. [19:42] otho (n=otho@98.222.27.81) joined ##slackware. [19:43] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:43] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:44] im going to name my band "chicken flavored death" hmm hmm? you like? [19:45] jeev: scary how many patches most distros apply [19:45] that might only work if you were on the fueled by ramen label [19:45] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] like redhat / ubuntu kernel..need like 500 patches or nothing works [19:45] and...its like, lets patch the openssh PRNG!111111111 im 13 years old [19:46] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:46] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] otho: MSG flavored RAMEN! [19:47] i love msg [19:47] honestly [19:47] it tastes great [19:48] by itself it probably tastes like salt...its a flavor enhancer...makes anything taste better [19:48] i know. It's marvelous [19:48] I'd put it on everything [19:48] discovered from seaweed in ww2 japenese rations [19:48] it is the salt of the future [19:48] carageenan or something [19:51] brokencog (n=brokenco@pool-71-191-7-34.washdc.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:51] josefig (n=JoseFig@201.144.87.40) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:51] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:54] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-32-12.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "probing dhcp guest side..." [19:55] I'm hoping someone has experience installing Slack 13 on a Dell Studio computer, or at least could help me figure out why the sound isnt playing. Any suggestions will be listened to. [19:55] er, well, except someone saying "use alsamixer and unmute the sources." [19:55] brokencog: you try running alsamixer and unmuting [19:55] hahahaha [19:55] there is a neat source for those: linux-laptop.net [19:55] LOL. [19:55] well, [19:55] so, [19:55] to describe the problem a bit more [19:55] so quit hitting enter [19:55] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [19:55] does lsmod show your module [19:56] all the devices are loaded ( snd_hda_intel is the particulare driver ) [19:56] alsamixer shows the channels and such. [19:56] using a sound app ( aplay for instance ) does not complain -- CPU wise, it's playing the audio. I just don't get the sound output. [19:57] plug your stuff in the right jack [19:57] my question is, is snd_hda_intel the correct driver ? because when I load Slax from USB, it uses the same module, but a different chipset is displayed in alsamixer. [19:57] it should be fine [19:57] um, plug what into what jack ? [19:57] i'm not using any jacks. [19:58] you are using headphone 1/8" jack [19:59] i think he's using the integrated speakers [19:59] blasphemy! [20:00] yes, i haven't tried if the sound jacks work ... hold on. [20:00] brokencog: you gotta press tab on the alsamixer and make sure you test every channel...some of them dont have a volume bar but if they are muted you wont hear ANYTHING [20:00] thats your issue, im pretty sure [20:00] then use alsactl store [20:01] yes, i have unmuted all of the channels. [20:02] there are a lot, but they are all unmuted. [20:03] :) i want to install server only [ no X of course ] , web ftp mail mysql php iptables gnupg nmap ...etc , what is the suitable software series ? A series (base system) & N series (Networking programs) & L series ( Libraries) enough ? during installation choose expert or custom ? ===> Abstract :1-The select option : series A ,L{ thx bro anka-ar} ,N only enough ? 2- the install option : expert then checking what package you want to install , [20:05] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [20:05] brokencog: play music, and go through the channels testing them [20:06] Level-Zero: just do L N and A and do full install [20:06] i'm using esd ... when it starts no sound is emitted. [20:06] full ? [20:06] err and Y [20:06] i think [20:08] ryeguy146 (n=ryan@h96-60-21-58.lactwa.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] not not y [20:09] ap [20:09] and d [20:09] definately need L N A AP and D [20:09] I had a quick question for someone about Slackware. I just installed, but cannot find the kernel to boot from while configuring grub [20:09] ryeguy146: ls -l /boot/vmlinuz [20:09] I've read that it was supposed to be located in the /boot directory, but after mounting that partition, all I can find is the source for the kernel [20:09] Yea, that's what I assumed [20:10] source should neer be in /boot/ you probably should unmount it and check /boot [20:10] But, I have that partition mounted and am not seeing a /boot [20:10] No, the source isn't in /boot [20:10] It's right where it's supposed to be [20:10] so unmount it, you probably didnt tell slackware to boot it before install [20:10] My guess is that I installed incorrectly [20:10] err to mount it before install [20:10] umount /boot; ls -l /boot/ [20:10] I have the partition mounted under Ubuntu right now [20:11] check slackware / for a /boot/ [20:11] Not there. [20:11] That's why I'm assuming that I screwed up the install [20:11] I have yet to boot into Slackware because of this [20:11] when installing slackware its nearly always easiest to just do a full install [20:11] Well, I'll just try a reinstall [20:11] you can use the bootcd to boot, just follow the prompt [20:12] I could, but if I screwed up /boot, I imagine that there are more problems [20:12] Alright, well, thanks Carin [20:12] ryeguy146 (n=ryan@h96-60-21-58.lactwa.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:13] can try/error in virtual-box then ably to real sytem ? { need A AP D L N } then full only ? [20:13] yes, it will work, remove packages later with pkgtool or you will just spend double the time going through packages in the installer [20:13] when booting with the bootcd --- remember the /boot of your instlaled system is not / of the bootcd. [20:14] unless you are short of space, the time spent on not choosing packages, or removing them is hard to justify. [20:16] yeah considering you can remoev them later while listening to music [20:16] lol. well, or not listening to anything. *:). [20:17] so, i think the problem is related to 32 vis 64 bit. [20:17] but, then again, that's not the case as Slax is still 32 bit. [20:17] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-32-12.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [20:18] but i think it is the chipset is not being correctly configured in the slackware boot -- it shows a chipset of Intel G45 DEVCTG in alsamixer, but in Slax it is different. [20:18] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:19] i think you are guessing [20:19] this one is worth seeing http://www.surfline.com/surflinetv/sixty-seconds/nils-schweizers-wild-ride-at-backdoor_31273 [20:19] oh man. [20:19] do lspci and look up the vendor / model numbers manually [20:20] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:20] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) [20:20] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] and, i can't really find any reference to it in the Googlizer. [20:20] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:20] google sucks [20:22] lol. [20:22] seriously [20:22] this is the closest reference to a fix: [20:22] fixed it by adding irqpoll as a boot option [20:22] so, i'll give that a try. [20:22] google sucks as a ... company ? webcrawler ? thinclient app developer ? saviour of the free world ? ... lots of options [20:23] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [20:23] all of the above [20:23] anyway, standby for one minute i'm going to try that boot option. [20:23] "as the noob questions worst enemy?" [20:23] and when i come back you can type me your two line reason as to why. [20:23] which I want to hear. [20:23] just like how wikipedia sucks [20:23] and youtube [20:23] brokencog (n=brokenco@pool-71-191-7-34.washdc.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:24] haha [20:24] rage quit [20:30] Lucy (n=Luz@99.162.239.154) joined ##slackware. [20:31] greetings all [20:32] pharsalus (n=phar@wh169a.halls.manchester.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[20:46] sier (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:46] So, the upshot is i'm still without a sound solution to the sound problem. [20:47] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [20:49] i got one for ya, fvwm no longer works since the changes made to attempt to make xfce work as a hebrew setup [20:49] egregor (n=egregor@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:50] boxxoq (n=ab_cd@58.33.150.88) joined ##slackware. [20:51] brokencog (n=brokenco@pool-71-191-7-34.washdc.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:52] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:52] the window manager loads, but the customizations of the button bar no longer sit and the menu pops up blank [20:52] not sure why that would happen [20:52] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [20:53] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [20:54] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:55] yo [20:55] nyRednek: clear out broken config files [20:56] Level-Zero it is considered poor netiquette to message someone w/o permission, let alone multiple times when unanswered [20:56] CarinJurado, i copied the system.fvwm2rc back over my .fvwm2rc...default config restored, but menus still popping up blank [20:56] stop msg'ing me [20:56] mancha, msg msg msg... :P [20:57] mancha wouldnt help you anyway dude [20:57] nyRednek: have you checked the permissions? [20:57] hes not here to help people [20:57] mancha, seriously, just playing with your [20:57] mfillpot, which permissions? [20:57] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-146-82.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:57] nyRednek: for whatever config file you are having problems with? [20:58] mfillpot, it's reading the config, since the menus are configured from a .fvwm2rc [20:58] dont help the heeb [20:58] delt0r___ (n=delt0r@62-47-145-145.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined ##slackware. [20:58] CarinJurado, and what is your problem with jews? [20:58] nyRednek: so what is wrong then? [20:59] mfillpot, not sure...the menus are popping up blank [20:59] mfillpot, i think it's something to do with a bad font [20:59] nyRednek: jews or israelis or zionists or semites or white hooknoses? which jew [20:59] arno (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] CarinJurado, why destinguish? what is your fucking problem? [20:59] sier (n=sier@c-24-62-71-60.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:00] distinguish* [21:00] cuz they are all different [21:00] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Connection timed out [21:00] nyRednek: have you tried looking for a font assignment in a config file and changing it to a font that is used by another wm? [21:00] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:00] mfillpot, there is no font assigned...it just seems to have stopped reading the default font that worked less than a week ago [21:01] nyRednek comes in here often with broken progs, we should help him [21:01] but the chosen ones dont need no stinking gentile goyim [21:01] nyRednek: what all have you installed or changed since it last worked? [21:02] brokencog (n=brokenco@pool-71-191-7-34.washdc.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:02] i changed the lang from en_US to en_UTF [21:02] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:02] utf8 even [21:02] hackeron_ (n=hackeron@cpc3-seve19-2-0-cust263.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [21:02] nyRednek: why? [21:02] okay, so, CarinJ., i didn't get to hear to Google diatribe. care to give a summary ? [21:03] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:03] CarinJurado, i have yet to make a jewish supremacist comment here [21:03] mfillpot, i was attempting to get xterm to display in hebrew [21:03] brokencog: http://www.google-watch.org/ [21:04] nyRednek: it can be done in xterm, but you won't get it to display names correctly since hebrew is RTL [21:04] mako-dono, i've realized that [21:04] guys, brb [21:05] oh god hes getting the ADL [21:05] and I think I told you the same thing last week or so.... anyway, you can try mlterm if you want xterm with bidi support [21:05] CarinJurado, either contribute to the discussion or stfu...you're really starting to get annoying [21:05] ooo, fight! [21:06] not as annoying as someone who has to announce to a channel who doesn't care that he's going to brb, though [21:06] mako-dono, i didn't hear about mlterm there [21:06] acton, and who pulled your string? [21:06] jealous? [21:07] acton, of a troll? hardly [21:07] totally insecure in his jewdom [21:07] who said I was trolling? [21:07] apparently insecure somewher [21:07] somewhere, too [21:08] if israel were my mother land i'd be insecure and hair-triggered too [21:08] I just walked into a pointless discussion, lets focus on helping people rather than name calling [21:08] awwwww but im called a gentile goy by the HOLY TEXTS [21:08] *rather than calling names [21:08] mfillpot, i'll try changing back to en_us and be back under irssi...this xchat crap is getting annoying [21:08] im less than human! [21:09] CarinJurado, technically, the term goy means nation [21:09] you must have your own dictionaries too [21:09] CarinJurado, it doesn't mean anything else, despite what your neonazi websites like to claim [21:09] nyRednek: why don't you just ignore him? [21:10] im a neonazi....true [21:10] CarinJurado, but i will agree, you are less than human, not due to your birth, but due to your attitude [21:10] lulz [21:10] nazis killed more humans than jews [21:10] CarinJurado, you're still lagging behind stalin [21:11] and a bunch of people [21:11] anyone using chrome for linux? [21:12] CarinJurado, yeah, i forgot to mention mao, the united states in the 19th century, the british empire, etc [21:12] ...... isn't it getting a little bit out of countrol? [21:12] take it somewhere else [21:12] mao was a us instrument [21:12] or british whast the difference [21:12] amazon10x: i am [21:12] agentc0re: how is it? [21:13] hiptobecubic (i=4b6fa159@gateway/web/freenode/x-grpqlfpwmaowewme) joined ##slackware. [21:13] Pref (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:14] pharsalus (n=phar@wh169a.halls.manchester.ac.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [21:14] amazon10x: it works great for me man. FF, opera, midori, etc... they all gave me issues when running flash. i'm on a acer netbook, so i don't have much power to run heavy things. chrome solved my problem. :D [21:14] nyRednek (n=yosi@24.168.60.60) left irc: "Leaving" [21:14] how do you get an op to remove this troll? [21:14] amazon10x: I used it. it crashed on day 2 so I ditched it and went back it o ffox... which still crashes every few days. [21:14] agentc0re: alright. i'm grabbing midori now to check it out, then i'll try chrome [21:14] hackeron (n=hackeron@78.33.200.139) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:15] agentc0re: do you have a slackbuild for it? [21:15] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:15] mfillpot: afaiu, it's still under heavy development so running it from the repo might be a good idea [21:16] amazon10x: I will wait for it to stabilize then [21:16] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:16] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "hard reboot" [21:16] mfillpot: no, but i can give you the link for how to set it up. it's real easy actually. [21:17] http://ifeelalittlestupid.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/using-the-chromium-linux-beta-build-on-slackware-12-2/ [21:17] agentc0re: ty [21:17] amazon10x: gnuzilla.gnu.org [21:17] f chrome [21:18] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] CarinJurado: i'm a pragmatist. sorry :/ [21:18] ok, i can't remember where i changed en_US to en_utf8 [21:18] im not sure i know what that means [21:18] i know it did i for all terminals [21:19] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@c-24-126-163-13.hsd1.ga.comcast.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:19] CarinJurado kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: CarinJurado, your bigoted comments are not wanted here. [21:19] including the console [21:19] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [21:19] fatalnix (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [21:19] I'm going to downgrade the kernel and X11 to the versions in 12.2, see how this goes :D [21:20] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:21] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@68-115-84-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:21] evening all. [21:21] deco: remember when i was trying to do the terminal in hebrew? [21:21] nyRednek: yeah , did it work ? [21:21] deco: not quite...and it screwed up my fvwm [21:21] nyRednek: oh :/ [21:22] anyone have any sound experience with snd_hda_intel module ? [21:22] deco: wondering which file that we changed from en_us to en_utf8 [21:22] Nick change: fatalnix -> fatalnix1995 [21:22] cause i honestly don't remember [21:22] hmmm [21:22] and my xfce is screwed too, in another way [21:22] had to go in under kde to have a gui(and it's slower than hell) [21:23] nyRednek: same here, my nvidia card messes it up [21:23] deco: well, the xfce isn't remembering the adjustments i made to it [21:23] oh [21:23] deco: that's the issue on xfce [21:23] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:23] nyRednek: my windows are slow in xfce for me [21:23] when using the nvidia drivers [21:26] deco: if i could remember which files we adjusted [21:27] do grep [21:27] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [21:27] nyRednek: yeah i forgot which ones [21:28] yasu (n=adminroo@tetkyo039020.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [21:29] yasu (n=adminroo@tetkyo039020.tkyo.te.ftth2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) left irc: Client Quit [21:29] deco: be back... [21:30] wait...this should be in my irssi log [21:30] yeah check [21:32] Luz (n=acabar@99.162.239.154) joined ##slackware. [21:36] it's /etc/profile.d/lang.sh fixed it, now let's see if fvwm behaves [21:37] acton (n=Mirc4Lif@168.103.85.95) left ##slackware. [21:37] and it does [21:37] \o/ [21:38] woot woot [21:39] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [21:39] o_o [21:39] just a reminder, fvwm2 does NOT like utf8 [21:39] heh [21:39] mako-dono: mlterm was the bidi term? [21:39] yes [21:39] mako-dono: thanks [21:39] I use it for arabic as well as hebrew [21:40] mako-dono: i know ivrix project had a bidi pine, but i'm not sure if that project still lives [21:40] I remember a talk about that few years ago. not sure if it's still alive [21:41] mako-dono: where are from ? [21:41] then again, ivrix was building over redhat 6, i think [21:41] i think i need to change my font...centerim is flanked by gimel's [21:41] deco: Bahrain [21:42] mako-dono: oh cool [21:42] maybe... :P [21:42] mako-dono: speaking of bahrain,(if this convo starts longer, i'll move it to slackofftopic) i remember talk of israel and bahrain trading ambassadors [21:42] the weather is pretty hot though [21:43] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] nyRednek: ambassadors? that won't happen [21:43] mako-dono: it was either bahrain or dubai [21:43] it was one of the states on the gulf [21:43] not dubai either.. I don't think so [21:44] I know that the US govt was putting some pressure on Bahrain to exchange ambassaros with Isarael, but afaik, it didn't work so far [21:44] well, whether it happens or not, is really irrelevant [21:45] israel is going to crumble soon enough due to its politics [21:45] not gonna happen too.. [21:45] :P [21:45] offtopic [21:46] mancha: true [21:46] mako-dono: if we want to continue... #slackofftopic [21:47] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-178.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:48] nyRednek: I wouldn't mind, usually... but I'm watching a dvd right now :P [21:48] so.. no, thanks ;) [21:48] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:49] mako-dono: no problem [21:51] brokencog (n=brokenco@pool-71-191-7-34.washdc.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:51] EasyTUX (n=lulu@AToulouse-258-1-32-12.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "leaving" [21:53] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: "Leaving" [21:56] CrYpTo1 (n=CrYpTo@ip68-224-51-178.lv.lv.cox.net) left ##slackware. [22:03] mako-dono: thanks for the tip about mlterm [22:04] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:04] you're welcome :) [22:05] going to see if there's a slackbuild, and if not, i'll make one [22:06] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:06] hiptobecubic (i=4b6fa159@gateway/web/freenode/x-grpqlfpwmaowewme) left irc: "Page closed" [22:07] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:08] on my inspiron laptop with alsa 1.0.18 the volume is extremely low. With external speakers it's fine, but not otherwise. The volumes are set at 100% using alsamixer, but still no go. The modprobe.conf contains appropriate option for dell laptops [22:09] hoobop (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:11] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:13] and you know those internal speakers do work well? [22:15] fatalnix1995 (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:16] droog (n=droog@unaffiliated/droog) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:16] hoobop (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:22] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [22:24] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:26] well, the machine didn't work compiling mlterm on a multilib system [22:26] trying on purelib slack64 [22:27] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:27] seems to be working on purelib [22:27] so i can reinstall the compat32 packages after install [22:29] it worked on purelib [22:31] nyRednek: or compile it next time on a chroot/vm [22:32] what info goes in the "Build tag:" of Alien;s SlackBuild Toolkit? [22:32] BP{k}: since i have neither a chroot nor a vm set up for compiling... [22:32] nyRednek: you may have to set some ldflags [22:32] LDFLAGS, rather [22:33] anyone seen pigpen recently? [22:33] BP{k}: removepkg /var/log/packages *compat32* then run slackbuild then installpkg alien/slackware64-compat32/*/*t?z is simple enough [22:34] no libind on sbo? [22:35] mk_ (n=nunes@187.89.145.47) joined ##slackware. [22:36] jinjii (n=alpha@93-45-137-35.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [22:40] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:46] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [22:47] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [22:48] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:49] reroute (n=user@S0106001cf0f31c55.wp.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:49] I have a question about slack 13 64bit stock [22:50] if anyone would be so kind [22:51] thats not a question [22:51] go ahead and ask, if anyone knows, you'll get ansewr [22:52] answer [22:52] depending on who answers you might get an ansewer [22:53] mancha: yeah, sure =] [22:53] what is the default connection manager for for wired or wireless networks other than wicd in /extras on the slack dvd [22:53] snL20 (n=irssi@90.149.160.214) left irc: "leaving" [22:53] reroute: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 [22:54] reroute: ifconfig ? [22:54] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [22:54] And wicd is by no way default. You have to explicitly install it. [22:54] yah in extras on the slack dvd but gui or kde4 application [22:54] wicd has a gui [22:55] wicd-client [22:55] It should start automatically when you start KDE [22:55] why not include one with the stock distro or add wicd release [22:55] Because many people will not need wicd. [22:55] it is slowly making its way in [22:56] 12.x didn't even have it in /exta [22:56] i think pat doesn't like the concept of "change" much :) [22:56] Luz (n=acabar@99.162.239.154) left irc: "Leaving" [22:56] wicd provides simplicity at the cost of overhead. [22:56] what about end users was my next question but u already answered it. [22:57] 12.2 does have it unless I'm mistaken [22:57] v4nelle (n=van@adsl163-68.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:57] from what i understand, even having a 64 bit clean version took some arm-twisting [22:57] reroute: correct [22:58] For just a plain-old wired internet connection using dhcp, the installer does it for you. [22:58] to pat's credit, wicd hasn't been the most stable application lately, and it is still undergoing a lot of bug-proofing [22:58] With wireless, and moving around a lot, wicd is much more convient, IMHO. [22:59] mancha: We haven't had time to bug-proof it much recently. [22:59] mancha: And much of our future work will be on the new version. [22:59] Which should be more bug-proof by design. [22:59] yeah, i am just pointing out that not having it instaled by default has some justification [22:59] indeed, a stable ifconfig gui would sweet [23:00] ..that should be included with future releases and/or updates [23:00] a gui for ifconfig? Why? [23:00] in my personal case, i have not installed wicd (nor will i) untill i stop seeing lots of bug reports [23:00] thumbs, that what wicd is no? [23:01] mancha: it works fine for me. Then again, I work on the thing. :P [23:01] that said, i am glad its being developed, it'll be good once its more stable [23:01] mancha: wicd works great in 12.2 [23:01] i guess i'll have to find bidi versions of irssi, pine, and centerim(or equivalent) for text to display correctly on them [23:02] and 13.0 64bit, happy as hell you folks included it if not installed by default [23:03] thumbs up [23:03] i invested some time in getting supplicant confs that work well for all my needs (inclusive of travel). so i have no pressing need for a gui helper [23:04] NaCl: please PLEASE don't write out the ncurses front-end to wicd [23:07] NaCl: i make extensive use of it in situations where the tray client doesn't work [23:07] NaCl: and wicd-curses does the job well [23:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [23:07] slackd0Od (n=slackd00@c-24-19-217-196.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:08] I don't think i got a real answer though, what is the default kde4 wired and wireless connection manager? [23:09] *conclusive i should say [23:09] reroute: wired, it doesn't [23:09] reroute: wireless, kwifi [23:09] reroute: our some stuff like that [23:09] but the kde wifi stuff doesn't handle wpa-psk very well [23:10] Scuzz_ (n=Scuzz@d24-57-84-192.home.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] a default or stock application for the current release. kwifi is not included [23:12] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:12] Nick change: Scuzz_ -> Scuzz [23:13] fatalnix1995 (n=fatalnix@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] boxxoq (n=ab_cd@58.33.150.88) left ##slackware. [23:14] esteeven (n=esteeven@82-32-107-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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There's wicd-curses and /rc.inet.conf [23:28] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:28] :q [23:29] haha oops. vim and vimperator are taking over my brain [23:29] :q! [23:29] roccity_ (n=mrpresid@118.90.83.235) joined ##slackware. [23:30] vi is better than vim IMHO [23:30] Action: wollw uses nvi [23:30] jed pwns [23:30] I use /dev/urandom and sed [23:31] is it possible to get a laptop with a intel graphics card to run 3 screens? [23:32] i just discovered xclip [23:32] very helpful little program [23:32] alkos333 (n=alkos333@adsl-75-57-134-146.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:33] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [23:36] julio (n=julio@host143.190-31-25.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [23:38] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:38] greetings and salutations [23:38] greetings andarius, how are you? [23:39] salutations fire|bird, i am well. prepping to feed myself. you? [23:39] I am great, thank you. :) [23:42] I use GNU Emacs. [23:42] Action: caoliver ducks and runs. [23:43] i am sorry to hear that [23:43] roccity_ (n=mrpresid@118.90.83.235) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:44] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.17.85) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:45] caoliver: i also use emacs [23:45] roccity_ (n=mrpresid@ip-118-90-83-235.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [23:46] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-74-98-178-224.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:46] deco (n=deco@adsl-69-108-88-254.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:46] roccity_ (n=mrpresid@ip-118-90-83-235.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) left irc: Client Quit [23:46] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:49] agris (n=agris@pasts.blondais.lv) joined ##slackware. [23:50] 23? [23:50] I mean Emacs 23.*? [23:51] caoliver: linux is just a bootloader for emacs [23:52] briareus (n=briareus@ip72-201-170-103.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] caoliver: still using 22.3.1 [23:53] still not using :D [23:55] what up everyone? [23:58] nyRednek: The daemon mode is what sold me. I have much use for the font bells and whistles. [23:59] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Connection timed out [23:59] I had someway of daemonizing XEmacs, but prior to 23, it wasn't easy (possible?) to do in GNU. [23:59] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [23:59] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.83.143) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Sun Oct 25 2009