[00:01] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:02] i don't get the antipathy... [00:10] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:11] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.229.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:15] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:18] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.190) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:18] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:21] LSD` (~ianweb@203-59-117-134.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:21] nhudson (~nhudson@209.44.102.12) joined ##slackware. [00:22] nhudson (~nhudson@209.44.102.12) left irc: Client Quit [00:22] nhudson (~nhudson@209.44.102.12) joined ##slackware. [00:27] kickback (~Unknown@122.162.119.227) joined ##slackware. [00:28] lrcaballero (~lrcaballe@ip72-199-13-32.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[00:36] If you're using custom-built modules. [00:36] znis: raid stands for Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks [00:36] plural [00:36] ok [00:36] thank you [00:36] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:36] unless you're confusing raid with a different technology [00:37] asarch (~asarch@189.188.153.132) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:38] Motoko-chan: thanks; I'm also using LUKS and LVM, would I need to remake my initrd.gz? [00:38] s/Inexpensive/Independant/ [00:39] inexpensive is nice but rare [00:39] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.229.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:41] you know, people have corrected me multiple times Inexpensive/Independent... [00:41] hard to change [00:41] =( [00:41] I'll just avoid expanding the acronym in the future ;) [00:42] Action: LSD` remembers it being Inexpensive... [00:42] Heh [00:42] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:42] It's been both, so no biggie. [00:44] Today's xkcd is awesome: http://xkcd.com/797/ (regarding package management ;) [00:45] lol [00:46] hahaha awesome :) [00:46] darkrho (~darkrho@84.39.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [00:46] Awesome [00:47] Package management is overrated [00:47] asarch (~asarch@189.188.153.132) joined ##slackware. [00:47] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-178-225.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:47] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.58.11) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [00:47] *automatic* package management is overrated [00:47] Yes. [00:47] nothing wrong with package management. [00:48] just some peoples defintion is a bit skewed ;) [00:50] Dependency management, then. [00:52] epapi (~epapi@dynamic-adsl-94-36-213-12.clienti.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. 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[01:16] well what i do not understand is that if someone wants to use (something like) bubbantu why they just don't use it? what is the point in trolling that distro XYZ is not using WHATEVER [01:16] Nick change: alreadygone_ -> Oak [01:17] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.97.99) joined ##slackware. [01:17] isn't all trolling futile? [01:19] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:19] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:19] sdi (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sdi) joined ##slackware. [01:20] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:20] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:20] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [01:20] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [01:24] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [01:24] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-15-4.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:14] troy (~troy@dsl-69-172-78-72.acanac.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:15] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:15] jumperboy (~jumperboy@gl205.websiteproject.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:15] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:15] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:16] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [03:17] Yiv (~yiv@c-71-59-27-247.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:18] mrcarrot: ah, also in openbsd? :) [03:18] yeah! [03:18] openbsd <3 [03:19] ^_^ [03:19] indeed [03:19] i am using both openbsd and slackware [03:19] both are clean and good operating systems [03:21] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.33.98) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:21] i am fighting with computers the whole day at work.... the last thing i want to do is to fight with buggy overcomplicated operating systems at home in the evening [03:21] that is why i pick openbsd and slackware [03:22] yeah same here [03:22] + debian [03:22] right now i am using in my work laptop slackware and in my home computers openbsd [03:23] debian >:( [03:23] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:23] ah well, works great for me and I'm too lazy to reinstall [03:23] i am mainting ltsp systems in two schools... one with ubuntu and one with debian... [03:23] eltt0s (~caesar@99-179-121-193.lightspeed.tpkaks.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:23] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:23] the one with debian is having a lot more problems [03:24] really much actually [03:24] and i am not a fan of ubuntu [03:24] oh okay [03:24] I have a lot more issues with ubuntu then with debian on our machines [03:24] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:24] famd the hanging so nobody can log in... [03:24] http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20100924.gif - rofl [03:24] Alan_Hicks (~alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [03:24] for example [03:25] jumperboy (~jumperboy@gl205.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [03:25] i have to check each day that famd has not been hanging... an uneccessary routin if debian would work [03:25] eltt0s (~caesar@99-179-121-193.lightspeed.tpkaks.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:25] lol,surrounder [03:26] Yiv (~yiv@c-71-59-27-247.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:26] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:28] glarb (1000@c-68-62-27-150.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:28] i have list of more things that is really bad in debian... but i will let it be for now... [03:28] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.16.143) joined ##slackware. [03:29] Yiv (~yiv@c-71-59-27-247.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:29] wahooooo (~wahooooo@c-67-170-35-27.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:29] sukaeto (~sukaeto@pool-173-49-229-225.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:29] sdi (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sdi) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:31] mrcarrot: been going through various emulators...was wondering,in your area of Finland..what was the popular 8bit computer? 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[03:35] mrcarrot: commodore :P [03:35] commodore* [03:35] sorry [03:35] mrcarrot: cool....remember seeing some compilations from there..have seen some info on the MSX(unknown here in the states other than the Yamaha one) [03:35] Lalloso: b or c if i remembsd [03:35] remember* [03:35] real usb dont need partitions [03:36] you have to check it up... [03:36] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:36] jumperboy (~jumperboy@gl205.websiteproject.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:37] thx [03:37] 0B is without LBA [03:37] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) joined ##slackware. [03:37] sdi (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sdi) joined ##slackware. [03:38] c64 was pretty popular as well here...atari 8bit had quite a following [03:38] i never had a c64... my parents had not money for such things [03:38] jumperboy (~jumperboy@gl205.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [03:39] so i missed out the c64 era [03:40] when i begun 286 was already old... and my father bought a used one. he later also bought something pre-286 for us kids... maybe it was 8086... do not remember anymore [03:41] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [03:41] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [03:41] i begun with dos 3.x [03:41] msdos 3 [03:42] where is mkfs.fat32? :-) [03:43] mkdosfs -F 32 [03:43] if i remember right it is -F 32... check the man page [03:43] it is [03:44] hey, what did you decide on the programming challenge? [03:44] it is not a programming challenge.... just a general computer releated competition [03:44] oh then never mind [03:44] i have not been deciding yet [03:45] i am still hoping for good suggestions [03:45] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:45] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:46] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431056.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:46] stybla (stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [03:46] pprkut (hwiesinger@slackbuilds.org) joined ##slackware. [03:49] Lalloso (8a843664@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.132.54.100) left irc: Quit: Page closed [03:49] mrcarrot: ok [03:50] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:51] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [03:58] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-433988.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[04:43] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-166-125-30.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:46] asdfjkl (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [04:46] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-433988.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:47] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432846.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:50] hrad (~a@77.93.201.43) joined ##slackware. [04:52] hey, I have a server indexing gigs of files with Lucene...sometimes it needs to be all reindexed...it's dependencies /libraries for my development [04:52] problem is that during the reindexing, I can't even listen to music, for 10-20 minutes [04:53] and after it's done, it takes some tome before it's smooth again [04:54] is it better to put this IO load on different partition then root ? where is 99% other io ? [04:54] give your ears a 10-20 minutes of rest :) some silence is good sometimes... not meaning it like beeing sarcastic [04:55] i have been starting to appriciate a lot silence [04:56] look, I said that because I don't see into this and my vocabulary couldn't cover it :) [04:57] I have some stuff to do when listening to music [04:59] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [05:00] yea, its about that time [05:00] btw the memory / run time management of Java apps on linux in general sux afaik [05:00] asdfjkl (~asdfasdfs@cm67.epsilon86.maxonline.com.sg) joined ##slackware. [05:01] is anyone using python2.7 here? [05:01] eating up all runtime especially [05:01] and memory leaks [05:02] I don't think it [05:02] i got rudely awaken at 2:30 this morning because of such =P [05:02] is a memory leaks issue [05:02] i was just talking about java in general =P [05:02] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [05:03] canyouscore (~canyousco@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:03] hrad: check hdparm [05:03] yep, eclipse suffers of memory leaks often [05:03] make sure your disk is ok [05:03] also, you could nice the reindexing [05:03] Yiv (~yiv@c-71-59-27-247.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:03] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:04] Action: phrag off to paris in an hour o.0 [05:04] vive la france! [05:04] maybe it's my fault cause I like having chrome with 20-30 tabs open [05:06] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-88-171.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:06] 20 - 30 tabs? wtf are you doing? [05:06] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:07] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:08] bnguyen (~bnguyen@123.30.12.71) joined ##slackware. [05:08] I just want to get back to the stuff I was up to....it keeps me informed about what I wanted / was gonna do before what I'm doin now [05:08] rss [05:09] Yiv (~yiv@c-71-59-27-247.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:09] thats what its made for [05:09] all that javascript running on all those pages would slow any computer down [05:09] get a java script blocker, and quit loading 20 - 30 pages ffs [05:10] look, I'm programming 3 things at a time and for each project there is couple of related pages [05:11] bookmarks, hardcopy, you know, there are many other ways of doing things, how about program only one thing at a time? [05:11] this is the better then bookmarking, tagging, searching for history...I tried saving the tab-bars but ...not for me [05:11] right now you are trolling [05:11] that's a habit hard to break [05:14] bvxz (~error@boringvx.stalker.fi) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [05:15] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. [05:16] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-432846.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:18] gee 20-30 tabs open - so like what? even if every tab was taking 10mb and shared no resources with other tabs (not even considering swapping, etc.), what it is on average modern computers with 2-4gb RAM? [05:26] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:29] a lot..I have 4 gigs and 4 cores...but It seems to me that chrome does IO a lot [05:29] bnguyen (~bnguyen@123.30.12.71) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:29] that's the problem, not runtime and memory [05:30] sounds like nonsense, but that's what I observed [05:33] bnguyen (~bnguyen@210.245.12.41) joined ##slackware. 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[06:24] sorry - rc.0 [06:24] my mistake - rc.0 calls dhcpd only to kill dhcpd before shutdown [06:24] So I have to edit rc.0 to start dhcpd ? [06:25] no - setup /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 for a network and tell it dhcp rather than fixed [06:25] sorry - /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [06:25] i think boson wants to set up a dhcp server... [06:25] boson: are you trying to create a dhcp server? [06:25] yes. [06:25] ah [06:26] Oh rc.inet1.conf is the networking stuff [06:26] but thats for client [06:26] if you want dhcp server, then man dhcpd and dhcpd.conf [06:27] and be prepared to learn networking again [06:27] I did read the man pages. Thats why I'm here. [06:28] my question is, I can't find the relevent directive to have dhcpd service on only one nic card. [06:28] my machine has 2 [06:28] and man dhcpd.conf wont tell me slackware speciffic way to start the dhcp server [06:28] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:20d:f0ff:fe56:8f4) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:29] for starting, add it to /etc/rc.d/rc.local [06:29] only one nic is specified in the config file [06:30] I haven't specified any nic in the config file. [06:31] look. [06:31] I found a sample config file here. [06:31] http://www.vendocomp.com/Howtos/DHCP.php [06:32] why do I have to add this? Why didn't slackware provide it> [06:32] man dhcpd - specifically the end of the line options for "if0.... ifN" [06:32] ./etc/dhcpd.conf.new <-- example dhcpd config file [06:33] part of the dhcp pacakge [06:33] idle` (~idle@2a01:e35:2f43:4b00:20d:f0ff:fe56:8f4) joined ##slackware. [06:33] for the nic options, specify "eth0" rather than "if0" [06:34] or whatever the nic is [06:34] I don't have a ./etc/dhcpd.conf.new [06:34] then try /etc/dhcpd.conf [06:34] which comes empty [06:35] never mind. [06:35] boson (I@70.44.72.133.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [06:35] ok - example is at /usr/doc/dhcp-/examples/dhcpd.conf [06:36] hmmmm - guess he wasn't interesed in learning slackware style documentation [06:39] He should have read what the /etc/dhcpd.conf said... "see man dhcpd.conf". There you will find all the examples [06:40] I guess he expected a hand-holding configuration gui... on Slackware? [06:44] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-15-11.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. 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[07:14] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:16] rodrigo_golive (c8116f03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.17.111.3) joined ##slackware. [07:17] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:21] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [07:22] andrew_46 (andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) left ##slackware. [07:23] hmmm. slackware.com is down [07:24] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [07:25] yes it is.... [07:26] someone will have to ping pat ;-) [07:28] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:28] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-15-11.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:29] alisonken1lap: works again as it looks? [07:29] kickback (~Unknown@122.173.251.7) joined ##slackware. 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I am having issues installing the software [07:41] jason24-2010 (~jason@c-67-190-136-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:42] archcezar (1000@acvy205.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:43] i wonder if not shipping unrar is a protest against the rar standard being closed [07:45] Yessssss [07:45] haha [07:45] dude, not closed, say its nonfree :) [07:46] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-88-171.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:46] [07:46] if it isn't closed, can you pastebin the algorithm please? [07:46] jrodger: Yes, should be easy [07:46] jrodger: In fact, there's an #arduino here :) And the online help is really good [07:47] gartt; I am having issues with the path, should I ask here or there? [07:48] jason24-2010 (jason@c-67-190-136-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:51] jrodger: Probably there- lots more people who can help [07:54] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:54] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [07:58] jrodger: Did you check out http://arduino.cc/en/Guide/HomePage ? [07:58] y0g1 (~y0g1@82.178.69.187) joined ##slackware. [07:59] hi is not possible to install slack on lvm? installer does not show my lvm volumes. [07:59] yes [08:00] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-13.1/README_LVM.TXT funny document name, I know ;) [08:02] JDif (~jdifool@mon75-3-82-67-194-134.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:04] thrice`: thanks for the link. [08:05] [sergiu] (~srg@krobelus.serg.eu) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:10] estranho (~estranho@187.14.159.181) joined ##slackware. [08:10] estranho (~estranho@187.14.159.181) left irc: Changing host [08:10] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. 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[08:32] use xmodmap [08:34] AndChat- (~AndChat@2.sub-97-229-218.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [08:37] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:37] anyone here use or at least have installed texlive? [08:40] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [08:48] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [08:50] xmodmap can only mix pointer button order. [08:50] like, 1 2 3 4 5 becomes 1 2 4 3 5 [08:51] there's no way to make it 1 1 1 1 1 [08:51] AndChat- (~AndChat@2.sub-97-229-218.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:51] any hints as to the latter? [08:59] however, can't xmodmap remap the other keys to noop functions? [09:01] mrcarrot (lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) left ##slackware. [09:05] nogo (~administr@122-124-136-98.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:25] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.97.99) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:25] if I set a user's shell to /bin/false, will he be able to run arbitrary programs in non-interactive mode still, like ssh user@host 'ls /' ? [10:25] or is it a complete block? [10:25] it will block it [10:26] after login the shell is executed, /bin/false just exits and returns false [10:26] so the shell gets to be run first and foremost, and in the shell the given command is run? [10:27] slava_dp: create a test user and give it a try [10:28] not sure how it would work since I don't think there would be an environment setup properly, but hard to say unless it's tested [10:29] yeah, /bin/false doesn't let me run any commands, it just exits. [10:29] while port-forwarding still works with /bin/false, so beware ;-) [10:30] what do you mean? [10:32] a guy that has his login disabled, can still forward ports. [10:33] how? [10:33] port forwarding is in the firewall - unless there's a daemon running as his user from a root startup process [10:33] ssh has port forwarding capabilities, right? [10:34] that would be an ssh config issue then [10:34] you think so? [10:34] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [10:35] I once set a guy's shell to dosemu. [10:36] if you really want to have fun, set their shell to perl [10:36] alisonken1home, haha [10:38] naa cant one make it teco or some simular fubar thing ? [10:39] asarch (~asarch@189.188.155.87) joined ##slackware. [10:42] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [10:42] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [10:47] arfon (~arfon@66.87.2.18) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [10:49] arfon (~arfon@66.87.0.101) joined ##slackware. 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[11:07] generate-template command rather [11:08] then look at "install-template" command before trying to use it on another system [11:10] Thanks alisonken1home, I generated the template file but I don't know where it got saved... It's not in . [11:13] Mowah (~Mowah@c-c78ae555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [11:14] did you give it a name when you gave the command? like "slackpkg generate template " ? [11:15] root___ (~root@218.9.124.118) joined ##slackware. [11:15] root___: bad idea to log in as root and then go into irc [11:16] root___ (root@218.9.124.118) left ##slackware. [11:16] Nick change: arfon -> route [11:16] wut? [11:16] Nick change: route -> arfon [11:17] Action: adrien déroute route [11:17] alisonken1home: I cd'd into ~ [11:17] ran slackpkg generate-template slack03.template [11:17] it made slack03.template.template [11:17] This action creates a new template with all official packages that are installed in your system. The template is stored at [11:17] /etc/slackpkg/template [11:17] but, it's not in . [11:18] YAY! [11:18] Dude, if you were a chick, I'd kiss you.... [11:18] Onyxyte (~Onyxyte@r75-110-112-109.rmntcmtc02.rcmtnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [11:18] now - read the "install-template" command - especially the part about where the template must be located before running [11:19] wut? [11:19] :) [11:19] Reading is for losers! I'm a doer. [11:19] jk [11:19] Ty bud [11:20] HA HA!! Do you know why I'm a moron....? [11:21] I have the slackpkg man page up but I hit Q without thinking so I've been banging the DOWN arrow key thinking to myself... This man page sux! It's not complete. [11:22] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:23] you don't need the .template extension, just a name - it autoappends .template for you [11:24] Yeah, I figure that one out... [11:25] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.229.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:26] it's been a long time since we had an actual moron in this channel... so a warm welcome to arfon [11:27] HA!! There was a moron in here yesterday.... (until I logged out) [11:32] ferreirathiago (~thiago@189.79.204.197) joined ##slackware. [11:34] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [11:36] Wow, that template feature iw {{{WONDERFUL}}} [11:36] iw=is [11:40] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:46] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-230-96.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:47] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.255) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:50] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) left irc: Quit: You Welcome to join my channel ##Iraqi [11:50] joeyt (~joey@gware/developer/joeyt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:54] john_dee_ (~id@95-29-144-49.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:54] john_dee (~id@95-29-144-125.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:56] notKlaatu (~klaatu@209.59.222.239) joined ##slackware. [11:56] kwabbles (~kwabbles@h-67-101-178-243.lsanca54.static.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] BVX (b@boringvx.stalker.fi) joined ##slackware. [11:59] Akiraa (~Akiraaaa@79.112.50.16) joined ##slackware. [11:59] do you think slackware is a good distro to learn linux in general? [12:00] nickfennell (~nick@94.125.134.209) joined ##slackware. [12:00] hi all [12:00] trying to find out if slackware 2.4 was ever patched with epoll [12:00] Akiraa, just as good as any [12:01] nickfennell: you mean ~1995 Slackware 2.4? [12:02] hell yes [12:02] Slack 7.1 baby [12:02] Out of curosity, what put you on this quest? [12:02] named related issues [12:02] curiosity abounds... [12:03] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-230-96.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:03] I can't jack it past 1024 sockets [12:03] tsccof (~tsccof@201-35-149-152.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:03] unless you know a way of twisting selects arm [12:03] nickfennell, are you running 2.4 on something at the moment? [12:03] I'm confused are you running Slackwar 2.x or 7.x? [12:04] shonudo, yes. 2.4.37 [12:04] kudos! [12:04] arfon, it's built from 7.1 [12:04] OH! 2.4 kernel != Slackware 2.4 [12:04] and the question remains: why? [12:04] lol [12:04] ah, okay [12:04] the kernel [12:04] that makes sense [12:04] heh. Sometimes, if something isn't broke, you dont fix it ;) [12:04] shonudo: Why am I running an HP2000 emulator...? [12:04] no, i thought he was running gen1 slackware [12:05] nickfennell: Sounds broke to me if you're having to ask this. [12:05] an interesting exercise, but asking why isn't out of the question [12:05] shonudo: Me too. [12:05] slacker6896 (~slacker68@f0017-1-88-165-190-90.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:05] arfon, no broke just limited. [12:05] *not [12:05] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:06] nickfennell: Okay, I support you on your crazy quest... Have fun storming the castle. [12:06] I will continue valiantly and hopefully my lord, I will prevail! [12:06] Slackware 10.0.0 Linux sorry 2.4.26 #6 Mon Jun 14 19:07:27 PDT 2004 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux [12:07] sorry? [12:07] heh, it is aptly named, I assure you [12:08] an ancient retired desktop machine, Celeron 400 or so. [12:08] Was there one neamed "My Bad"? [12:09] named even [12:09] PII-400 rather [12:10] rob0: that's my router. [12:10] OK perhaps another angle. Is it possible to raise this 1024 limit somehow... Perhaps elven magic? [12:12] <---doesn't know, just is nosey [12:13] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [12:13] elves... you really don't want those getting close to your machine [12:14] tomaw (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) left irc: Quit: Quitting [12:14] Well I don't trust pixies [12:14] or is that proxies... i forget [12:14] I have a troll sitiing behind me, do you want me to ask him? [12:14] heh [12:14] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4A8B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 2.0.8/20100916182334] [12:15] (my co-worker and I don't get along) [12:15] tomaw (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. [12:15] Nah, it's OK. Just find him/her/it a bridge to sit under and leave him/her/it be. [12:15] Pfft! I wish [12:16] I hear Dehli have a few good ones left still [12:16] *delhiu [12:16] **Delhi [12:19] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware. [12:24] MrJacks0n (Mr@173-86-55-23.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:25] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:23] jemark_ (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Client Quit [13:23] Slartbartfast (~Slartbart@200.206.126.3) left irc: [13:23] s4lv4d0r_ (1000@201.210.190.169) joined ##slackware. [13:27] JDif (~jdifool@mon75-3-82-67-194-134.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:29] How can I get: "! LaTeX Error: File `utf8x.def' not found." [13:29] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:29] (From cd python*/Doc; make latex; cd building/latex; make all-pdf) [13:30] stephen_ (~twoshot_@user-0cetgcn.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:31] last MakeFile uses LaTeX, i'd guess. [13:31] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.97.99) joined ##slackware. [13:31] BVX (b@boringvx.stalker.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:33] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [13:34] Cr1kk4 (alpha@93-41-239-98.ip83.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [13:34] Where can I get this utf8x.def file? [13:35] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [13:38] logia_th (~nmo@83.38.207.217) joined ##slackware. [13:45] grazymax (~grazymax@host156-5-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:49] asarch: i don't use latex so i don't know but it looks like google says you have to put ucs.sty utf8x.def ucsencs.def somewhere in your TeX-path. [13:49] BVX (b@boringvx.stalker.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:49] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [13:50] perlsyntax (~perlsynta@unaffiliated/perlsyntax) joined ##slackware. [13:50] MrJacks0n (Mr@173-86-57-220.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:50] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-55-23.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:50] if iwas going to install slackware and download the dvd wouls i have to install everything on it? [13:51] no [13:51] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. 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[14:02] So for weeks now i've been trying to figure out why ssl keeps failing. I try to wget something and it complains until i add --no-check-certificate. xchat refuses to connect via ssl, giving "No trusted certificate.?" errors, etc etc. Then i find this: http://j.mp/cUIcoI [14:02] Oh, crap! File not found [14:02] so the question is, why wouldn't slackware want to include robbie's package by default? Is there a time when you wouldn't want this? [14:02] There is no utf8x.def in my system [14:04] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [14:06] estranho_ (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) joined ##slackware. [14:06] estranho_ (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) left irc: Changing host [14:06] estranho_ (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Bingo! It is in the ./13.1/office/texlive.tar.gz package [14:09] \o/ [14:09] arfon (~arfon@66.87.0.101) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:10] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:11] arfon (~arfon@66.87.2.112) joined ##slackware. [14:13] ph8 (ph8@unaffiliated/ph8) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:16] hiptobecubic: when i had asked a similar question alienBOB replied that its the job of the administrator to make use (and check the validity) of such certificates [14:16] sahko, i see. [14:22] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [14:23] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [14:23] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-36-154.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Connection reset by beer [14:25] metrofox (~metrofox@unaffiliated/metrofox) joined ##slackware. [14:31] Having said that, I do not mind having a ca-certificates package in Slackware. In fact, the team have been looking at how to implement a set of CA certs - either separate, or as part of the curl package [14:31] Action: dustybin jams to a bit of http://lemon.citrus3.com:8044/listen.pls [14:32] rafu (~rafu@123-226-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) joined ##slackware. [14:33] you mean a set of root certs? [14:33] who's set would you use? [14:35] Action: arfon raises his hand... Pick mine, they're REAL secure! :) [14:36] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [14:36] self signed with love even. [14:37] self signed is all we need, i think using certs for identity is a conflation of the real issues [14:37] you can always just use mozilla's they have an infrastructure in place to verify/audit/update root certs [14:37] ferreirathiago (~thiago@189.79.204.197) left irc: Read error: No route to host [14:38] and if you use ff to surf you're implicitely trusting their root cert scheme anyways [14:38] What about when Oracle buys them out? [14:38] yeah and then they scream like crazy with a self signed cert [14:38] oh, is it troll hour already? [14:38] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [14:38] mozilla is spreading cert fud with verisign and the rest [14:39] van_ (~van@79.107.242.251) joined ##slackware. [14:41] veritos (~veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [14:41] v4nelle (~van@adsl-152.109.242.201.tellas.gr) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:43] :) [14:43] MrJacks0n (Mr@173-86-59-87.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [14:43] MrJackson (Mr@173-86-58-14.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:46] stephen_ (~twoshot_@user-0cetgcn.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [14:48] Nick change: MrJacks0n -> MrJackson [14:52] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [14:55] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:02] sadly kleopatra doesnt work correctly yet in kde 4 [15:06] van_ (~van@79.107.242.251) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:07] rafu (~rafu@123-226-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:10] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.229.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:10] sunzofman (~sunzofman@c-69-246-40-165.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:12] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.97.99) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:13] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-15-11.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:13] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.97.99) joined ##slackware. [15:13] andybiker (~andrew@cpc1-rdng7-0-0-cust904.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:14] hi, I am in some bother here! [15:14] I am on a console program 25x40 wide [15:15] How can I reconfigure the graphics? X doesn't start [15:15] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-8-57.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:15] I see no X11* in /etc [15:15] Did you install the x/ packages? [15:16] yes, the graphics is trashed [15:16] You said you see no /etc/X11 [15:16] so either a) you didn't install something or b) you removed something [15:16] which is it? [15:16] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.229.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:16] ok. I'll reinstall. [15:16] Thanks! [15:17] andybiker, no, don't do that [15:17] ok [15:17] why reinstall? [15:17] We are just trying to find out what caused the issue [15:17] what command can I use? [15:17] /etc/X11 missing isn't normal. [15:17] andybiker, what does " grep slackware/x/ /var/log/packages/* | wc -l " say ? [15:17] so tell us what you were doing when this happened [15:18] sleepig, I swear [15:18] 305 [15:18] that's good, sounds like you have x/ installed [15:18] which video chipset andybiker ? [15:19] nvidia [15:19] It's been a long time since I have been in console mode! [15:19] and did you update your kernel recently? [15:20] snails (~I@70.44.72.133.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [15:20] dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcpd.conf -lf /var/state/dhcp/dhcpd.leases -q eth0 # Doesn't do anything [15:20] It's a fresh install. I installed 7 linuxes yesterday [15:20] dhcpd is not listed under netstat -lpnu [15:20] on one disk [15:20] wow [15:20] that's what virtual machines are for [15:20] :) [15:21] debian, slack, zorin, mint, fedora, suse and kubuntu [15:21] andybiker, ok, so your problem is that slackware defaults to console mode :) [15:21] yep [15:21] heh [15:22] well, you can log in and just do "startx" , which will load X with vesa probably. you then need to install the nvidia driver [15:22] andybiker: more /etc/inittab | grep default [15:22] The idea is to get the tv working on them all [15:22] id:3:initdefault: [15:22] yep [15:22] thrice` hit the nail on the head [15:22] andybiker: type startx like he said ;) [15:23] sure? [15:23] yep [15:24] how do you make the dhcpd server work on slackware [15:24] dhcpd -q eth0 # FAILs [15:24] no module fbdev, no devices, no screens [15:25] xinit no such file or process [15:26] snails: what error are you getting? [15:26] are you just trying to GET an IP or issue IPs to other machines? [15:26] you keep saying 'server' [15:26] issue IPs [15:26] fuck it. I have to go to work. I'll be back [15:26] snails (~I@70.44.72.133.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:26] lol [15:26] lol [15:27] next tool [15:27] faint! [15:27] Christ, if you WANT freakin' help people, give detail. [15:27] We are psychics. [15:27] er.. we aren't [15:27] we are? [15:27] fire|bird: sh [15:27] I knew you were going to say that [15:27] :) [15:27] go back to fishing off your porch [15:27] haha [15:28] lol [15:28] Action: andybiker imagines fire|bird with a hammer and laptop outside [15:28] use hammer on laptop [15:29] Well, the laptop part could be right, but s/hammer/fishing pole/ :P [15:30] who needs a girlfriend when you have http://www.subflow.net/ and slackware and wine [15:30] cast laptop with fishing pole [15:30] Whatever happened to adventure games? [15:31] is there a such thing as a linux dating site, where you can meet like minding people [15:31] yes, its a lug [15:31] meets once a month [15:31] aye but no opposite sex [15:31] be a homo :) [15:31] i dont get on with normal types [15:31] subflow is, sfw? [15:32] repeat [15:32] they have no interest in me and i have no interest in them [15:32] thrice`, looks like it, some radio site. [15:32] a good techno station [15:32] anyway, what can root run to reconfigure graphics these days? [15:33] or where is your xorg script? [15:33] It's that way ----> [15:33] :P [15:33] (so's your laptop ina minute) [15:33] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: brb [15:34] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:34] reinstalling... [15:34] andybiker (~andrew@cpc1-rdng7-0-0-cust904.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: ircII EPIC4-2.8 -- Are we there yet? [15:36] good idea [15:36] if you went to a nightclub and you met a girl who wanted to know what distro you used, what would you do? [15:36] trojan, durex. [15:37] I'd show her my slackware [15:37] shyko (~shyko@187.39.209.133) joined ##slackware. [15:37] shyko (~shyko@187.39.209.133) left irc: Changing host [15:37] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [15:37] ...might even let her touch it. [15:37] [ in bed ] [15:38] get (~get@unaffiliated/get) joined ##slackware. [15:38] night all [15:38] arfon: LOL [15:39] jo [15:39] hi [15:39] Hi get [15:39] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:39] I think to slackware, she'd ask "does that thing still work"? :p [15:39] the last update of the x86_64 kernel , its related with the exploit mentioned ad slashdot of this past week? [15:39] ahahahahahahahahahaaha [15:39] logically, i think everyone would be in pure ecstasy [15:40] get, sounds like it [15:40] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.229.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:40] then imagine you spent the night, talking about linux / distros / projects in a nice cosy corner in the club [15:41] the same as IRC but in real life [15:41] why doesnt that ever happen :( [15:42] IRC = all dudes [15:42] girls are not logical, they are emotional [15:42] arfon: you have no proof [15:43] dustybin: maybe some...but the reverse is true for some too [15:43] aye of course [15:43] My argument is more believable though [15:43] arfon: no it's not [15:43] seeing as i've /met/ many of the women i know on IRC [15:44] there are a large percentage of girls into computers, but maybe for fame rather than real love [15:44] trap you is in [15:45] Okay... There may be some chicks but they'll all be ing #Feelings [15:45] are there any female kernel developers? [15:45] yep [15:45] man page writers? [15:45] eeek i sound sexist [15:45] is this a serious conversation or ...? [15:45] dustybin: the woman who wrote the USB 3.0 drivers for the kernel is umm... a woman [15:46] ace :D wish there was more [15:46] notKlaatu: KLAATU! [15:46] lol [15:46] hey maco! [15:46] Not for me Klatuu, I'm yanking Dusty's chain :) [15:46] dustybin: there's also Valeria Aurora who added relatime to ext* [15:46] maco: or was that her boyfriend [15:46] dustybin: it was her [15:47] aye good :D [15:47] im not sexist, i wish there was more women doing it [15:47] i know valerie. she's my heroine and the reason i want to get into kernel hacking [15:47] She's the btrfs guru [15:47] Action: maco has a patch in the kernel too [15:47] rob0: and one of the designers of zfs [15:48] notKlaatu: you wear a men's small right? do you want one of these? http://www.instantattitudes.com/shirts/t021.html [15:48] who is on slackware(64)-current, libxml2 and zlib both got updated and they don't play well together, they cause my version of FF to crash and burn :( [15:48] notKlaatu: i have one but seeing as it's men's sizing it doesnt really fit right, so... before i send it to Good Will....? [15:49] no no i'll take it [15:49] heck, free shirt... [15:49] notKlaatu: ok PM me your address and i'll go to the post office [15:49] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: gone! [15:50] dustybin: this is what i wrote about valeria for Ada Lovelace Day... i suggest you look through other ALD posts too though http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2009/03/ada-lovelace-day-heroine-valerie-aurora.html [15:50] have you noticed that every channel on freenode has the dedicated geek purists related to the project [15:50] was i supposed to help your dad or your mom with a computer or something maco ? or did it fix itself ? [15:51] :D [15:51] notKlaatu: yeah my mum has filesystem fubar, i *think* on her ext4 partition [15:51] i dont think females get treated to anybody else, there just isnt enough of them interested [15:51] *any different [15:52] sure we do [15:52] we get emails telling us we're nutzo for being into computer while good-looking, because if we're hot we should go do something else [15:52] come on it's not like irc chans full of guys sit around and talk about women like they're different creatures. oh wait... [15:52] maco: i disgree, crap like that doesnt happen on freenode [15:52] im yet to discover a nasty freenode channel [15:52] dustybin: hi, i haz a voice of experience! [15:53] I have that same problem... [15:53] hha [15:54] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-8-57.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [15:56] gabriel_ (~gabriel@190.163.80.113) joined ##slackware. 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[16:09] dad's been a salesman for > 30 years [16:10] yeah, heck, i should start hanging out with your dad. Ask him if he wants to hang out at the 61c. [16:11] good package site? [16:11] slackpkgs [16:11] 61c? [16:11] slackbuilds.org, anything else [16:11] i_is_cat (~i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] v4nelle (~van@79.107.242.251) joined ##slackware. [16:13] maco: local cafe [16:13] vastina: i go with slackbuilds myself. [16:14] vastina, alienbob has a nice repo of packages too [16:15] he can mostly be trusted ;) [16:15] i could have sworn vastina was trolling :P [16:15] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-54-44.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:15] the salixos repo works, too. [16:15] Were there two versions of the 13 release? [16:15] cheers Necos [16:15] heya vastina [16:15] thrice`: where's alienBOB's crap? [16:15] hey Necos, how've you been man? [16:15] In my system: cat /etc/slackware-version: Slackware 13.1.0 [16:16] vastina, google.com, then "alienbob slackbuilds" [16:16] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:16] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:16] notKlaatu (~klaatu@209.59.222.239) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:16] slackware.com/~alien [16:16] thrice`: cool, thanks [16:16] On a VirtualBox installation: Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [16:16] ? [16:16] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [16:16] asarch, one is 13.0, the other is 13.1 [16:16] veritos (veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:16] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/ [16:16] busy with work, school, et al [16:16] Thank you thrice` [16:17] Action: asarch wonders where is his 13.1 installation DVD [16:17] just slackpkg upgrade [16:18] asarch: slackpkg works wonders [16:18] I upgraded from 12.2 to 13.1 using it [16:18] Thank you very much Dominian [16:18] I will use it [16:18] i just said the same thing :P [16:18] Nevertheles... where is my 13.1 installation DVD? :'-( [16:19] Necos, please be quite, we're trying to listen to Dominian :/ [16:19] Action: Necos stabs thrice` [16:19] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Disconnected by services [16:19] heh [16:20] Dominian is saying something worth listening to ? where do I sit ? [16:20] lol [16:20] I bet it's in the last place you look. [16:21] i love techno / house, wow http://www.subflow.net/ [16:21] [16:21] Bingo! I find it! [16:21] >.> [16:22] was it in the last place you looked? [16:22] Yes, it was [16:22] :-) [16:22] However... it's broken! [16:22] I cannot mount it! [16:23] That's a hollow victory. [16:23] Try windex [16:23] (seriously) [16:23] No, that was a "Homer Simpson" victory: D'oh! [16:23] vim tip of the day: to delete EVERYTHING below your cursor press: gD [16:23] DDG [16:24] oh? [16:24] dG [16:24] thats it [16:24] dG [16:24] IRC tip of the day: don't immediately execute whatever dustybin comes up with [16:24] :D [16:24] Let's get it!: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=slackware.13.1.iso [16:24] ive been drinking wine :D [16:25] Guest6051 (~Slackware@82.114.94.249) left irc: [16:25] If this is the correct DVD... then I'VE BEEN USING THE WRONG PACKAGES :-S [16:26] DOH! [16:26] Son of the...! [16:27] sounds like fun [16:27] rodrigo_golive (c8116f03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.17.111.3) left irc: Quit: Page closed [16:27] asarch, did that really boot once finished? [16:27] xD [16:28] Pa^2 (~GrumpyPap@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:28] Yes, it did indeed [16:28] nice [16:28] so im using growisofs, for nothing then. [16:28] Sounds like you need to dG that disk. :) [16:29] dG? [16:29] i dont understand why linux distros by default dont set limits so forkbombs wont work [16:29] <--being dumb [16:30] Weeding out prcoess dustybin [16:30] Action: asarch is trying to remember what package he used from the old DVD... [16:30] every linux distro straight out of the box can die from a forkbomb [16:31] even windows doesnt have that problem [16:31] or does it.. [16:32] dustybin, I would think it does [16:32] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [16:32] try runing a .bat that runs itself [16:33] do they still use .bats ? [16:33] I do everyday. :( [16:33] It makes me sad too. [16:33] only in C:/belfry [16:33] even without .bats you can use vbscript [16:34] Or and organizations that are stuck in Widows hell [16:34] windoz even [16:34] Where's my crucifix? [16:34] Begone VBS! [16:35] I have to script in bat and it is G I M P E D [16:37] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@host154-247-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:37] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@host154-247-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Changing host [16:37] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [16:39] OUT OF MEMORY. [16:39] READY. [16:39] [] [16:39] wich was the correct name once creating a slackware package : slack-requierd ? [16:39] where to specify the depencies? [16:40] -requiered* [16:40] required? [16:40] -u ? [16:41] my english is loosing its internal structure, too many spanish all day ... [16:41] :S [16:41] salck-required [16:41] ffs [16:41] slack-required [16:41] ah [16:41] -e [16:41] so [16:41] xD [16:41] all this dep rubbish, just install _ALL_ the deps, problem solved :D [16:41] thnx [16:42] its a custom packet. 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[18:56] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:57] i disagree, policiticians are too much in the public eye [18:57] nobody likes them because its impossible to please everybody [18:58] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:58] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [18:58] the way I see it, as long as they don't make promises they have no intention of keeping, or know they can't keep, and do their best to do what they said they would, then no issues with them. [18:59] i would rather a group of powerful people in power rather than 1 person [19:00] would who knows, maybe they are just puppits anyway [19:00] Richard Stallman for President :D [19:01] ffelix (phelix@ditto.arpa.org) joined ##slackware. [19:02] vota comunista? [19:02] Richard Stallman would need to be on pot 24/7 to be prez [19:02] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [19:02] otherwise he'd die of a heart attack [19:04] theres something about stallman i like [19:04] bennymack (~ben@cpe-72-231-198-162.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BH7poMtPVU [19:05] he's batshit crazy [19:05] maybe so [19:05] there would be no slackware without stallman [19:05] not maybe... [19:05] he IS batshit crazy :) [19:06] aye because he has real passion [19:06] bennymack (~ben@cpe-72-231-198-162.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:06] he misses the old days [19:06] reminds me of ronald reagan in family guy... [19:06] reagan smash! [19:06] elektrobeat (decibel_e@189.210.7.66) left ##slackware. [19:07] stallman is cheesy, but i like the fact he gets up there and does it [19:07] and i agree with mostly what he says [19:08] doesn't change the fact that he's batshit crazy... it just means you probably are too :) [19:08] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:10] estranho (~estranho@187.14.168.143) joined ##slackware. [19:10] estranho (~estranho@187.14.168.143) left irc: Changing host [19:10] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [19:11] Watanuki (~naraku@96.45.180.106) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:11] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:11] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:13] Don't forget what GB Shaw said about progress and reasonable men. [19:13] too late >.> [19:13] Watanuki (~naraku@96.45.180.106) joined ##slackware. [19:13] They are mutually exclusive? [19:14] All progress depends on unreasonable men, something to that effect. [19:14] Watanuki (~naraku@96.45.180.106) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:14] figabo (~MacOSX@200.52.177.20) joined ##slackware. [19:14] "quoting people is lame" --mancha [19:15] ScreamerX (~screamer@91-118-57-215.dynamic.adsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [19:15] So quoting yourself must be the definition of lameness. [19:15] Watanuki (~naraku@96.45.180.106) joined ##slackware. [19:15] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.76.241) joined ##slackware. [19:16] how about quoting yourself quoting yourself ? [19:17] If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a conclusion. [19:17] lol [19:17] I often quote myself. It adds spice to my conversation. [19:18] you guys are too brainy for me [19:18] Hello. Could anyone please pastebin their permissions and ownerships of directories under /var/spool ? [19:18] "you guys are too brainy for me" - dustybin [19:18] Mel-nix, you can find this yourself actually. [19:19] Mel-nix, do you have you install DVD? [19:19] mancha: Where? I have a feeling that I messed-up mine in an attempt to fix mailx/sendmail issues. [19:19] mancha: Yes. [19:19] go to your extra dir, in there there's a file MANIFEST.bz2 [19:20] it'll give you all the wholesome goodness of default perms [19:21] nullm0dem (~quassel@sbhsa30.ma.burl.vt.sover.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] Bassist (~bass@mnch-5d85b211.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] bzgrep var/spool /root/MANIFEST.bz2 #should provide the needed suger [19:23] Howdy, I've installed Slackware64 13.1 on a Thinkpad T410. After installing the NVidia driver and getting it to run, my fans start running high after a while [19:23] Even if there's no load on the system [19:23] mancha: Can I find it in a local mirror of slackware-current? [19:23] Why, and how can I stop it? [19:23] Mel-nix, yes [19:24] Bassist, if it only happens after installing the nvidia driver then that is the likely cause, i'd hit the nvidia channels and/or lists [19:25] How do I find out the GPU temperature? [19:25] Similar to /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/... [19:26] you can only do it if the gpu has on board temp reading and they allow access via the driver [19:26] get (~get@unaffiliated/get) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [19:27] do you have a file nvidia-settings? [19:28] mancha: Nothing found. [19:28] mancha: Yes [19:28] Mel-nix not sure what you mean nothing found [19:29] Bassist, try this: vidia-settings -q [gpu:0]/GPUCoreTemp [19:29] ack, nvidia-settings -q [gpu:0]/GPUCoreTemp [19:29] Nothing [19:29] mancha: bzgrep 'var/spool' extra/MANIFEST.bz2 # Does not return anything. [19:29] Mel-nix, did you actually download it to extra ? [19:30] newslacker (~root@207-119-220-22.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [19:31] thrice`: I am using a local mirror of slackware-current. So, the file exists. [19:32] Mel-nix then you're doing something wrong. the command works. [19:32] nvidia-settings -q gpus # ?? [19:32] mancha, it won't, because nothing from extra/ contributes to /var/spool [19:33] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:33] mm, actually, nevermind [19:33] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:33] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:33] 1 GPU on Slackware:0 [0] Slackware:0[gpu:0] (NVS 3100M) [19:34] quintux (~quintux@adsl-9-38-211.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] gpu:0 was right [19:34] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@68.67.76.100) joined ##slackware. [19:34] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@68.67.76.100) left irc: Changing host [19:34] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [19:34] what does just -q [gpu0] give? [19:34] er, -q [gpu:0] i meant [19:35] ERROR: Error parsing query '[gpu:0]' (Missing attribute name). [19:35] I'm looking through the --help file [19:36] grazymax (~grazymax@host156-5-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:36] -q all ? [19:36] thrice`, mancha: I've found it! I used MANIFEST.bz2 from `slackware' directory. [19:37] :) [19:37] thrice`, mancha: Not from extra/ [19:37] yes, extra/MANIFEST only has extra/'s packages [19:37] um no [19:38] thrice`: Right, I realized that. [19:38] Appetite (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [19:38] mancha: Everything and a half, but no temperature [19:38] mancha: Thanks anyway. [19:38] Oh well, maybe there's no sensor here [19:38] oh sheisse, i sorry, i thought the full manifest was in the extra dir [19:38] mancha: Thanks [19:38] thrice is right [19:39] thrice`: Thanks. [19:39] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) joined ##slackware. [19:39] morning :) [19:39] Bassist sounds like it. [19:39] mancha: Doesn't explain the crazy fan [19:39] i was going by memory which on friday's is no longer a very safe bet for me :) [19:41] Mel-nix you're welcome. it's a handy file to have in case you do mess up perms or ownerships... [19:43] how'd that happen in the first place? [19:43] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.190) joined ##slackware. [19:45] I have a stupid question ? What is the point of making a slackbuild ? Doesnt just installing directly from source do the same thing as installing a slackbuild package ? [19:46] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:46] newslacker google that question [19:46] lol [19:46] newslacker: No. [19:47] there are 2 corrections that need to be made to that question: 1.) there's no such thing as a slackbuild package. 2.) you don't install from source (since it still needs to be compiled) :P [19:47] newslacker: Not all makefiles have `make uninstall'. Package-management is quite handy. Thus SlackBuild scripts are handy as they create a package. [19:48] but yes, google that question, and you'll get a great answer [19:48] nullm0dem (~quassel@sbhsa30.ma.burl.vt.sover.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:49] newslacker, if you know make the question, you have the answer.... [19:51] oh the LP.net guy strikes again :) [19:51] Total Recall [19:51] lol [19:53] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [19:54] Bassist (~bass@mnch-5d85b211.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:54] newslacker: there is more to installing a package than compiling, what about man pages, rc scripts, examples etc [19:54] and a clean way to remove [19:54] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [19:55] dustybin, read these http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/George_Bernard_Shaw :) [19:55] haha who is he [19:55] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bernard_Shaw [19:56] that's who was mentioned earlier, GB Shaw [19:56] SvenL- (~Lolilol@81-64-4-184.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:56] If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance. [19:56] LOL [19:56] Damn. mailq has stopped working. [19:56] Necos: he is twisted [19:57] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:57] [16:09] (rob0) Don't forget what GB Shaw said about progress and reasonable [19:57] men. [19:57] "can not chdir(/var/spool/mqueue/): Permission denied" [19:59] Mel-nix, what the hell did you do to your box? >.> [19:59] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-206-196.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:00] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.29.70) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:01] Uh, I have a very basic question about compilation and installation of a software. i'm still a bit confused when it's not juste "./configure, make, make install" May someone take a while to give me some hints? [20:01] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] sdi (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/sdi) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [20:01] use a slackbuild SvenL- [20:01] cuba33ci (~cuba33ci@111-240-206-196.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:01] if you do the ./configure && make && make install routine, you may have software that can't be removed later if you don't like it [20:01] Necos: I re-installed Slackware and restored the backup. [20:02] SvenL-, that method won't handle some things you should be doing; setting proper locations for output libraries, strip binaries, compress man pages, install documentation, etc. it also won't allow you to easily remove the software, or worse, upgrade it some day [20:02] Mel-nix, chown root:mail /var/spool/mqueue and then chmod 700 /var/spool/mqueue [20:02] Oh, I see... [20:02] buff ... is it jam? [20:02] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.166) joined ##slackware. [20:02] so slackbuilds or nothing? :p [20:03] SvenL-, slackbuilds, or use your method, but make install DESTDIR=~/crap and makepkg by hand :) [20:03] the good thing about using slackware means you can read docs from the original projects home pages, rather than a bastardized version for the distro [20:03] mancha: It already is. [20:03] read the slackbuilds.org page on installing software [20:04] Ok [20:04] <|Slacker|> slakcbuilds is the way to go for me [20:04] mancha: -r-xr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 710452 2010-04-24 22:15 /usr/sbin/sendmail [20:04] <|Slacker|> makes my life easier [20:04] Uhm, I'd prefere to get it clear... I can "create" my own slackbuild package from the sources? [20:04] |Slacker|: what you learn is how things are meant to be [20:04] Mel-nix that is good [20:05] mancha: Shouldn't it have been SUID? [20:05] SvenL-, slackbuild is a bash script that does what you outlined + a little bit more [20:05] <|Slacker|> dustybin, indeed bro [20:05] it is SGID not SUID [20:05] SvenL-, yes [20:06] its the weekend :D [20:06] Action: dustybin feels happy [20:06] Ok, and to do so I tell the make to install the software in a directory from which I will create a good package? [20:06] SvenL-, no no, slackbuild scripts are executed [20:06] mancha: If you check the permissions, only root can write to /var/spool/mqueue. [20:06] yes [20:06] SvenL-, http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [20:07] ok, let's go for some RTFM [20:07] grazymax (~grazymax@host156-5-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:07] thanks anyway [20:07] sorry, but you're missing the point :p [20:07] you gotta RTFM sometimes SvenL-... just be happy that you've got people pointing you to the right manual :) [20:07] LOL [20:08] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:08] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] alwais exist packages to compile.... [20:08] read the manual or the project home page, they will both work on slackware [20:09] Mel who else do you want writing to it? [20:09] mancha: smmsp or mail? [20:10] chmod g+w /var/spool/mqueue ? [20:11] pete` (~user@016.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:11] v4nelle (~van@79.107.242.251) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:11] Necos: Won't work. [20:12] as root? [20:12] Mel-nix i see your point, try chmod 755 /var/spool/mqueue [20:12] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.48) joined ##slackware. [20:12] grazymax (~grazymax@host156-5-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:14] mancha: It worked! Thanks. [20:14] Mel-nix interesting, i've never looked into why Pat packaged that permission structure.... [20:14] M3no1ti0s (M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.48) left ##slackware. [20:15] at first glance it looks a bit funny to me... [20:15] Melnix, welcome [20:15] mancha: Isn't it a bug in Slackware? [20:16] possible, but unlikely, 'cause it's been like that for a long time [20:16] M4K4V3L1 (~Aminoveli@41.137.56.127) joined ##slackware. [20:16] Mel-nix, i think it is a safety measures that seems tobreak things. [20:16] what specifically did you try to do that broke? [20:17] drwx------ 2 root mail 6 1994-08-11 22:46 /var/spool/mqueue// [20:17] it depends on how many users you want using mailq,i guess. [20:17] mancha: chmod 4555 /usr/sbin/sendmail also seems to solve the issue. [20:17] what "issue" please. [20:18] mancha: Without having to change permissions of /var/spool/mqueue [20:18] can you state the issue? [20:18] mancha: I could send mail only as root and not as a normal user. [20:19] then you've done something to the standard install [20:19] mancha: Running `mailq' seems to give a hint where the problem could lie. [20:20] yes, mailq is what you often don't want any old user to run [20:20] which is my gut hunch as to why pat chose 700 [20:20] fourstrings (~4Strings@151.55.7.235) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [20:20] mancha: An old user? Who is he? [20:20] it's probably run suid [20:21] so you broke sendmail in some other way [20:21] Necos: You mean mailq? [20:21] you can send mail as a non-root user with the default slackware perms [20:21] what does a sendmail configuration file look like? [20:22] it's an m4 file dustybin... very arcane >.> [20:22] C ? [20:22] C++? [20:22] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:22] it is not an m4 file [20:22] mancha: Even on Slackware 13.1? [20:22] never heard of m4 [20:23] mancha, whatever it is... it's a very ugly beast >.> [20:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_%28computer_language%29 [20:23] but...most people prefer to write it in m4 macro and process it with the m4 "compiler" [20:23] jeeze [20:23] compile the conf file [20:24] m4 dates back the unix days, so arcane is a good word for it [20:24] when was sendmail first released? [20:24] in the 80's ? [20:24] Sendmail-8.1 1993-06-07 - 4.4BSD freeze. No semantic changes. [20:25] i wonder what server was used before 1993 [20:25] Mel-nix what did you change in your sendmail stuff after you installed the vanilla slackware packages? [20:25] BSD has been around before 93 [20:25] Necos: what mail servers were used before 93 [20:25] gimped (~gimped@adsl-75-28-162-164.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:25] mancha: Nothing. [20:26] no idea... [20:26] and what happens, you send an email and what you get a reply from mailer-daemon? [20:26] delivermail preceded sendmail [20:27] well, there ya go, mancha knew the answer [20:27] Onyxyte (~Onyxyte@r75-110-112-109.rmntcmtc02.rcmtnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:27] mancha: I use it only locally. [20:28] before ssh, did everyone use telnet to access shells? [20:28] rlogin et al [20:28] mario (~mario@orion.slackverse.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:30] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] frk (~jcn@189.58.216.137.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:30] Mel-nix with the standard install, as you non-root user, can you do: echo "test" | mail root [20:31] mancha: Now that I have fixed it, yes that works. [20:32] M4K4V3L1 (~Aminoveli@41.137.56.127) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:32] "...with the standard install..." [20:32] aryr100 (~aryr100@cpe-67-248-210-0.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:33] ashe (~ashe@125.163.41.113) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:33] mancha: Would I have to re-install? [20:33] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [20:34] so, how did you "restore" the backup? [20:35] ashe (~ashe@125.166.167.128) joined ##slackware. [20:35] Necos: I just copied the files back. Not all directories, but only home directories, var, and etc. [20:35] no wonder everything is fubar'd >.> [20:36] Necos: Do you have a copy of Slackware 13.1 DVD ISO ? [20:36] Necos: Does mailx work for you? [20:37] i don't have it installed [20:39] Necos: What is the right way to restore a backup? [20:40] Nick change: frk -> freack [20:40] freack (~jcn@189.58.216.137.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [20:40] freack (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [20:40] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:40] well, i don't know the "proper" way, but i'd start by examining changes between my backup and my shiny new system [20:42] Necos: Anyway thanks and goodbye. [20:42] restore configs as needed [20:42] later then, heh... good luck [20:43] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.76.241) left irc: Quit: ircII EPIC5-1.1.2 -- Are we there yet? [20:43] stephen_ (~twoshot_@user-0cetgcn.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:43] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:43] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:44] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [20:45] stephen_ (~twoshot_@user-0cetgcn.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [20:45] mario (~mario@orion.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [20:48] iiiii (~iiiii@unaffiliated/wongbater) joined ##slackware. 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[21:11] Not as funny as Barbara "call me senator" Boxer [21:12] politics is fail anyway :) [21:12] GrooveDroid (~Dominus@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:14] There are a few trying to do what is right by their constituents, too few though, most are out for self and status [21:16] that's the big joke, btw ;) and also how democracy breaks down eventually, me thinks... you can't please everybody [21:24] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:24] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:25] GrooveDroid (~Dominus@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [21:28] danc3 (danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left ##slackware ("Gone to do something useful!"). [21:33] asarch (~asarch@189.188.150.65) joined ##slackware. [21:35] xovan (~xovan@ip70-173-249-86.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-70-192.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[22:47] whoa it's hitest [22:47] I've read so many of your forum posts [22:48] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:48] squamous (~agi@69-179-247-121.stat.centurytel.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:49] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [22:52] c1b3rh4ck (~hector@190.128.98.215) joined ##slackware. [22:53] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [22:53] c1b3rh4ck (~hector@190.128.98.215) left irc: Client Quit [22:53] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:03] Onyxyte (~Onyxyte@r75-110-112-109.rmntcmtc02.rcmtnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@*.dialup.ice.net expired. [23:10] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@*.dialup.ice.net' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:12] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:17] asarch (~asarch@189.188.150.65) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:17] Pearl (71a79059@gateway/web/freenode/ip.113.167.144.89) joined ##slackware. [23:17] Hi everybody [23:18] where to get slackware app [23:18] ? [23:18] :-/ [23:18] google for source code/slackbuilds.org/slacky.eu/alienBOB's repository/rworkman's repository [23:18] slackpkg or slackbuilds.org [23:18] App? You mean the distribution? [23:18] oh yes [23:18] thank [23:20] Pearl: http://www.slackware.com/getslack [23:20] how to port asciiquarium to gnome? [23:20] slackbuilds.org [23:21] Pearl where are you from? [23:21] asarch (~asarch@189.188.150.65) joined ##slackware. [23:21] i'm sorry [23:21] i from VietNam [23:21] no need to apologize [23:21] ok [23:22] it's hard to understand some of your questions, like porting asciiquarium to gnome, what does that mean? [23:22] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [23:22] oh i want run it on gnome desktop [23:22] can do it [23:22] ? [23:23] firstly, gnome is not packages with slackware officially so your first step would be getting gnome installed. [23:23] next from what i see, asciiquarium is DE agnostic that said, if you want your DE to use it as a screensaver you'll have to find a way to make the DE's screensaver use it, not sure how that happens. [23:24] it's too complex [23:24] :D [23:25] Pearl: dropline gnome is most likely what you are looking for [23:27] Pearl: no, try gsb instead [23:27] i dont known gsb [23:27] that's mean? [23:27] it would probably be a good idea to learn the basics of slackware before trying to run gnome on it [23:28] oh [23:28] Pearl: gnome slackbuild [23:28] i'm sorry [23:29] thank for all [23:29] Pearl: you install 13.1, then install gsb, then you have gnome. [23:29] Pearl: you should do a full install as well. [23:29] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:30] also, if you're dead set on gnome as your DE then i would reconsider how you're picking your distribution. Why did you pick slackware? [23:31] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:31] Nick change: jhell -> CmdLnKid [23:32] Pearl: mancha is right! if you like Slackware and want GNOME, you could try GSB(Gnome SlackBuild) or Arch Linux, which is a very good operating system [23:33] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:33] plus, "it would probably be a good idea to learn the basics of slackware before trying to run gnome on it", from hexhawk ;) [23:33] Pearl: it is a great idea to know the basics of slackware in case you really want to run Slackware, any way [23:36] i think we overwhelmed Pearl, he went AWOL [23:36] that's fine. [23:38] pretty decent book http://www.lulu.com/product/ebook/introduction-to-the-command-line-(second-edition)/12665426 [23:39] How do you write two sentences in the same line in Python if you cannot use ;? [23:40] (For example, from C: printf("What is your name? "); scanf("%s" name); [23:40] ? [23:40] ffelix (phelix@ditto.arpa.org) joined ##slackware. [23:41] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Python_Programming/Input_and_output [23:41] asarch: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Python_Programming/Input_and_output [23:42] Pearl (71a79059@gateway/web/freenode/ip.113.167.144.89) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [23:42] asarch: #python [23:42] long (~long@mail.kingdosoft.com) joined ##slackware. [23:43] long (long@mail.kingdosoft.com) left ##slackware. [23:44] Can't you tell me just a simple example? [23:44] asarch: if you click the URL I google for you, you will find some examples [23:44] asarch: no, but the folks in #python can --------> [23:44] s/google/googled [23:45] jcn_ (~jcn@189.58.210.6.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:45] Wonderful! [23:45] what's Wonderful? [23:45] Slackware [23:45] ;) [23:45] I bet you can't write two sentences in one line in Python [23:45] asarch: no, but the folks in #python can --------> [23:45] Action: asarch is looking for that in the Python 2.6.4 reference [23:46] asarch: I bet you can't think correctly either [23:46] freack (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:46] asarch: do you not know how to join the #python channel? This is ##slackware. [23:46] worst thing is, I actually gave him the correct answer, and I am not a python programmer ... [23:47] heh [23:47] google is *hard* [23:47] but python is easy. [23:47] dead easy [23:47] I didn't go to that channel because there are thousand of guys like you [23:47] asarch: like me? You mean people who want to try to help you learn to do something on your own? [23:47] asarch: thousands of guys who know where to ask things or click URLs given to them containing correct answers [23:48] people who expect you to invest time to find the answers to your questions yourself. thats inhumane [23:48] And Google always gives you the wrong answer [23:48] s/./?/ [23:48] asarch: only if you can't use it correctly [23:48] asarch: who ties your shoelaces for you in the mornings? Maybe you could ask them. [23:48] asarch: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Python_Programming/Input_and_output <<< answer [23:49] asarch: now, I bet you have a mouse, do yourself a favour and *click* this URL, press ctrl+F and type "same line", without quotes, press "Return" [23:49] tsccof1: but, but.... that would require some reading, and some effort! [23:49] asarch: voilá, Mr. 80QI, you got the answer [23:49] IQ* [23:50] and no, I don't know these french expressions [23:50] *cough* [23:50] danc3: yea, that is so hard! [23:50] jcn_ (~jcn@189.58.210.6.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [23:50] Ok. Sorry if you misunderstand me [23:50] asarch: oh, we understand you just fine. [23:50] Let's go by parts [23:50] Ok? [23:50] ok [23:51] asarch: you want somebody to do it *FOR* you. We're trying to teach you to help yourself. [23:51] asarch: again, the #python channel is over there ------> [23:51] In C, C++, Java and Perl you can write two commands in the same line because they use ; to end the expression [23:51] This is the Slackware channel, not a python tutoring channel [23:51] asarch: danc3 is right, and I answered your question [23:52] asarch: any other questions? [23:52] vldmr (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [23:52] Action: asarch reading the log... [23:52] (related to Slackware Linux)? [23:52] Nick change: vldmr -> AbsTradELic [23:53] um, actually #python is <---- that way [23:53] Action: danc3 just boggles as to why someone can't just ask such a simple thing in the proper channel, and get the answer within 2 minutes.... [23:53] what's the air speed velocity of unladen swallow? [23:53] ananke: slower than spit [23:53] What kind of swallow, African or European? [23:53] blue [23:53] ding ding ding, we got a winner [23:53] NOOO [23:53] rob0: silly. [23:54] rob0: go back to your cave [23:54] rob0: :( [23:54] roger [23:54] roger's not here, and don't call me shirley. [23:54] rob0: did you get your money today? [23:54] shhhhh [23:55] brb [23:55] rob0: I want my percentage. [23:55] tsccof1 (~tsccof@200-102-88-46.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:55] tsccof (~tsccof@200-102-88-46.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:55] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:56] back [23:56] right username :) [23:56] "/nick tsccof" could have done that too [23:57] rob0: ah! thanks! didn't know about that [23:57] alimon (~alimon@189.160.202.191) joined ##slackware. [23:57] hi [23:57] it's less dramatic though [23:57] rob0: he's dead, right? We can claim the prize now? [23:57] i have a question [23:58] well ... let's just say he's pinin' for the fjords. [23:58] alimon: is it related to Python? [23:58] lol [23:58] danc3: no, why? [23:58] lol :-D [23:58] alimon: nevermind, inside joke... go ahead [23:58] Beautiful bird, the Norwegian Blue. Lovely plumage. [23:58] Don't get excited guys. I'm just learning Python [23:59] asarch: no, you're not [23:59] asarch: oh, we are not excited :P [23:59] asarch: again, the #python channel is over there ------> [23:59] grrr danc3 don't be dyslexic again [00:00] --- Sat Sep 25 2010