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[02:19] Grifulkin (~ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:19] we should go no further without the cone of silence [02:22] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-8.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:22] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [02:26] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [02:27] Action: slackie hi there \o [02:27] Nick change: spook -> KGBspook [02:28] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:28] boris`` (~boris@pool-74-111-12-189.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:29] boris`` (boris@pool-74-111-12-189.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:30] Nick change: KGBspook -> khaosspook [02:30] Action: khaosspook eavedrops [02:31] nogagplz (~nogagplz@ppp121-44-229-234.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:34] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.226.16.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. 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[03:06] robertzaccour (robert@97.81.160.189) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:07] you should be able to find out from bash.org ....... [03:08] is there a 'reccomended' set of scripts to remaster a slack 13 cd set ?? [03:10] like Slackware Unplugged? [03:11] something like that [03:11] there seem to so many [03:12] what does remaster mean? [03:13] rebuild a custom set ( or 1) cd for a specialised application [03:14] so anyone can put the cd in, boot, and it installs the needed packages plus some of my own scripts / binaries [03:14] automatically [03:15] I guess I'm looking to make a kind of live cd that you can install from [03:18] mps31 (~mps@82.132.139.222) left irc: Quit: Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info [03:20] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [03:22] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430888.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:27] are rm and cp so hard you need a script to do them for you? [03:28] dfrank (~dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [03:30] hello All. i trying to connect to remote host using sshfs. Usually (with other hosts) all works fine, but with this host i've got an error: "Connection reset by peer". Also, when i connecting via ssh - it works! but sshfs fails. help please?.. [03:30] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [03:32] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.31.129) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [03:33] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.64.195) joined ##slackware. [03:41] dfrank, are you using hostnames or ips [03:41] make sure you can resolve the hostname first if using hostnames to mount sshfs [03:44] oobe: i using IPs [03:44] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:45] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [03:46] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:47] yo MLanden [03:48] heya,antiwire [03:48] suvir (suvir@ppp-124-120-138-61.revip2.asianet.co.th) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:48] MLanden: It's really early here, what region are you in? [03:48] dfrank, unfortunately "connection reset by peer" is a very generic error message [03:48] oh no, that darn guy with the nick "peer" is at it again? [03:48] he's brutal [03:49] early as well here ..eastern va usa [03:49] MLanden: Dang, really early there [03:49] antiwire, yourself? [03:49] West coast [03:49] (2010-04-25 00:48:41) Sun Apr 25 00:48:41 PDT 2010 [03:50] antiwire, california right? [03:50] yep [03:51] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:51] ever mess with xtide,antiwire?...still compiles and it's useful in conky [03:51] I was having temp problems and was blaming nouveau's lack of power management, turns out that the air exhaust of this laptop was almost blocked by dust [03:51] Srbo (~Srbo@93.86.17.51) joined ##slackware. [03:51] lost more than 14°C and fans are running far slower [03:52] MLanden: I haven't but I just googled it after you mentioned it and it looks like I could use it [03:52] Nick change: agentfirebird -> fire|bird [03:52] but I still like going to the local mom and pop surf shops to buy tide charts from them. I do that even though I use the free CDIP websites [03:54] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-201-107.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [03:54] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-201-107.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Changing host [03:54] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [03:56] asdfg (~asdfg@200.121.21.178) joined ##slackware. [03:57] How come talk doesn't work? Always giving connection refused command? [03:57] try kwafee_talk [03:57] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [03:57] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-99-88.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:57] i don't have kde [03:58] antiwire, bonus is it also gives moonrise(set) and sunrise(set) [04:05] MLanden: that site is pretty neat [04:05] thanks [04:05] heya MLanden [04:05] heya,fire|bird [04:06] np,antiwire [04:06] back in a minute [04:06] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Everything will be ok in the end. If it is not ok, it is not the end, yet. [04:07] robertzaccour (~robert@97.81.160.189) joined ##slackware. [04:07] robertzaccour (robert@97.81.160.189) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:07] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [04:09] wb antiwire [04:09] fire|bird: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/Lb6wlJ56.html [04:09] I don't know if that will help but whatever [04:10] xenor (~xenor@p4FE4DC42.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:10] you could ldd the last working build you have on your distro [04:10] hey [04:10] antiwire, thanks. :) [04:10] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-de50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [04:10] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.226.16.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:11] dfrank (~dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [04:13] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:13] agentphoenix^ (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Quit: When music is the weapon, we are all indestructable. [04:13] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("Everything will be ok in the end. If it is not ok, it is not the end, yet."). [04:17] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-8.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:21] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [04:21] MLanden: this is a neat one to use. http://www.stormsurf.com/page2/forecast/shortcast/scal.html [04:21] You can change it to the East coast too [04:21] http://www.stormsurf.com/page2/forecast/shortcast/quikcast.html [04:22] antiwire, cool..thanks [04:23] xenor (~xenor@p4FE4DC42.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:26] Nick change: khaosspook -> spook [04:29] okay, got talkd to start by uncommenting talk and ntalk in /etc/inetd.conf though now I get an error Target computer does not recognize us. [04:30] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [04:32] antiwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("Everything will be ok in the end. If it is not ok, it is not the end, yet."). [04:32] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [04:33] slink (copy@node-43.blackcore.net) joined ##slackware. [04:34] agentwario: are you using write' to try to talk? [04:34] Srbo (~Srbo@93.86.17.51) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:34] Does each system have talkd running? [04:35] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: brb [04:38] it isn't by default [04:38] oh. [04:38] yes both of ours do [04:38] it works locally on both [04:39] not over the lan though [04:41] Hoogin (~hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [04:44] does it need to be in the allowed hosts you think? [04:45] agentwario: I don't know, I was shooting into the dark earlier ;) [04:45] not atypical for you. ;D [04:45] I think the last time I used talkd was in a Linux lab in junior college [04:45] haha [04:47] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [04:52] Yalla (~cbuffin@AMontpellier-551-1-96-149.w92-145.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:53] rahul_ (~rahul@123.236.187.142) joined ##slackware. [04:54] how do i change default audio device to alc888 analog, now it is set to hdmi, in hdmi i dont have volume controls for front/center/woofer :( [04:55] I don't have a wall big enough to hold a tv that supports HDMI. [04:56] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [04:57] or is there some other way to enable controls for front/center/side in hdmi? [04:58] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-99-88.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [05:00] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-112-243.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:01] rahul_: have you ran alsaconf ? [05:02] yes, here is output of aplay -l >>http://pastebin.com/wLZGre8Z [05:03] in alsamixer there should be an option to select alc888 [05:03] or whatever it's called [05:03] alsamixer takes the last device, nvidia hdmi, and i want it to select the 1st one [05:04] f6 is to select the device in alsamixer [05:04] have you attempted that? [05:04] pressing f6 does nothing [05:04] hi, i cannot start my slackware system and i'd like some hints. It is mostly Slackware current (in fact last update was Wed Mar 31). The only thing I installed before rebooting was loudmouth-1.4.3. I then asked to overwrite config when asked to. ATM, the system boots to a prompt, but the prompt read something like (none)cbuffin instead of (darkstar)cbuffin and i cannot login as root. It seems /etc/rc.d/rc.M and another o [05:05] rahul_: in alsamixer? f6 will always pop up even if you only have 1 sound device [05:05] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:06] alsamixer 1.0.18, nothing pops up :( [05:06] do i need to upgrade alsa? [05:06] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [05:06] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [05:06] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [05:06] Yalla: it may be that it's looking for /dev/sda now instead of /dev/hda as with the recent kernels this is a new change since it uses libsata for both. [05:07] Yalla: you may need to use the boot disk and chroot into your system to fix lilo [05:07] at least that was a problem I ran into a while back. [05:07] agentwario: would it still mount / read-only ? [05:07] rahul_: ah, you must not be on -current. must be a new feature [05:08] i am not on current [05:08] Yalla: yes. read-only [05:08] woot, that might be it then :) [05:08] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: Everything will be ok in the end. If it is not ok, it is not the end, yet. [05:08] i'll try that, thanks for the tip [05:08] later [05:08] Yalla (cbuffin@AMontpellier-551-1-96-149.w92-145.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [05:09] rahul_: no you shouldn't have to upgrade. I do not really know enough about it to help other than that. [05:09] anyone else help me pls [05:10] rahul_: though you may want to ask later when there are more people active. [05:10] sure i will download the latest alsa and recompile, since i am running custom kernel 2.6.32 [05:14] rahul_ (rahul@123.236.187.142) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [05:15] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [05:25] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:34] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [05:34] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:34] Yalla (~cbuffin@AMontpellier-551-1-96-149.w92-145.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:35] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [05:35] agentwario: thanks a lot, using the install slackware dvd, i chroot, mkinitrd and lilo and after considering some /etc/*.orig files, everything is back to normal [05:36] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:36] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Excess Flood [05:37] good to hear [05:37] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [05:39] it's somehow strange that it seems a lot of /etc files were upgraded while i just installed loudmouth-1.4.3 if i remember well [05:39] i'll just consider .new files anytime :) [05:39] yeah, i always use the diff option with the .new files [05:40] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-251-130.bur.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. 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[05:42] http://www.scorehd.com/tour/?nats=MzA5Njg4LjIuNDkuNDkuMi4wLjAuMC4w [05:42] (02:42:00 AM) gavino: http://www.extremenaturals.com/main.htm?id=shorty&p=clean [05:42] (02:42:05 AM) gavino: http://vip-shemale.com/ [05:42] Channel flood from gavino -- kicking [05:42] (02:42:12 AM) gavino: http://promo.tsseduction.com/g/gorg2006:revshare/5468/v/17/h/m [05:42] (02:42:17 AM) gavino: http://www.pureladyboys.com/ [05:42] gavino kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [05:51] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.64.195) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:53] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:54] with all the worry of libs not being installed, why not just install all the libs then you will not have much to worry about :D [05:54] i still cannot believe mythtv compiled and worked with just _one_ missing dep [05:55] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.64.195) joined ##slackware. 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Grow up, get a life [06:31] goj (~goj@p4FE6E1CD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [06:31] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [06:35] mtkoan (mtkoan@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-rzofbhlpetjwbeqn) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [06:35] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:35] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:36] mtkoan (mtkoan@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-iglnvijconpcwlfp) joined ##slackware. [06:39] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [06:39] mtkoan (mtkoan@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-iglnvijconpcwlfp) left irc: Client Quit [06:40] mtkoan (mtkoan@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-zjddjynqbjhsprri) joined ##slackware. [06:46] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [06:46] zdr [06:46] hello [06:46] mornin [06:46] SunTzu can you help me? [06:46] i just woke; on coffe[0] [06:47] i can try but you'r seriously warned of greater risk in my answer :) [06:47] show wht you got first. [06:48] i need help to set pppoe connection [06:48] oh; i havent done PPPOE in decades :) [06:48] more detail pls [06:49] PPPoE връзка с име и парола само нищо друго [06:49] scii only pls? [06:49] ascii only pls? [06:50] pppoe is connection is by username and password only nothing else [06:50] k [06:50] wait; did you ask in ##linux or ##networking yet? [06:51] no I ask only here [06:51] ask in those two pls; really, i'm not going to have an answer for you on PPPOE [06:51] and there's no one else awake here yet [06:51] SunTzu i find in /etc/ppp/pppoe file [06:52] i wont be able to answer, i dont do pppoe [06:52] in ubuntu i write in terminal sudo pppoeconf and .. ready [06:52] in slackware ;( [06:53] nobody writes in channels :( [06:53] it's Sunday morning, we're asleep. [06:54] :( [06:54] I can not break at all to help me? [06:54] there's a book url in the /topic. did you read it yet? [06:55] i read for ppp [06:55] :( [06:55] ne7work: I think you want pppoe-setup [06:55] k [06:55] i try pppoesetup [06:56] pppoe-setup it Is ? [06:56] i try pppoesetup [06:56] and nothing ? [06:56] yes, with the dash [06:56] :( [06:56] oki [06:56] and? [06:56] what happens [06:56] when i write pppoe-setup [06:56] ? [06:56] less enter please [06:56] tried it? [06:57] i go to try it tnx [06:57] and i coming back soon :} [06:57] pprkut: if i dont enable kwallet for passwords in konqueror, any idea where(if) they will be stored? [06:57] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) left irc: [06:58] sahk0: in your home folder :P (no, no idea) [06:58] ok thanks anyway [06:59] I always enable kwallet so I didn't have that issue yet [07:01] rahul_ (~rahul@123.236.187.142) joined ##slackware. [07:01] how do i compile 32 bit application from source code on 64 bit system? [07:02] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [07:14] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [07:15] hello [07:15] i try with pppoe-setup [07:15] and when i try pppoe-start after pppoe-setup [07:16] say is connected [07:16] but I do not open pages [07:16] ? [07:17] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [07:19] ne7work, what is output of route -n [07:20] can u ping ur gateway ne7work [07:20] what? [07:21] i'm new in slackware [07:21] what is ur gateway ne7work [07:21] how to see [07:21] ? [07:22] as root type #route -n, in ur shell [07:23] only #route - n? [07:23] route -n [07:24] no space between hyphen and n [07:24] with # or only route [07:24] ? [07:24] only route [07:24] okay [07:24] and [07:24] ? [07:25] whats the output? [07:25] morning folks [07:25] wait i go to try :} [07:25] morning ;] [07:25] GM GooseYArd [07:25] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) left irc: [07:25] how do i compile alsa multilib on slackx64? [07:25] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) joined ##slackware. [07:26] does alien make a build for that on? [07:26] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [07:26] he has but not for 1.0.23 [07:27] ah i would grab the source, then grab his alsa-multilib.SlackBuild script [07:27] and i am making one since i use skype 32 bit on slackx64, and also by default alsa picks the hdmi device instead of analog 888 [07:27] then normally you just need to edit the version number in the slackbuild [07:27] oh ok GooseYArd , i will try that, how do i change device prference for alsa [07:28] rahul_: it'll be in the ./configure flags in alsa-multilib.SlackBuild [07:28] no i mean for the current alsa installed, GooseYArd [07:28] oh duh sorry [07:28] that I dont know [07:28] JIOCb (Sps@94.30.152.114) left ##slackware. [07:29] aplay -l, lists 3 devices on same card, alc888 analog, digital and nvidia hdmi. alsa picks the last as default, i want it to pick the 1st [07:29] hm [07:29] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:30] i presume someplace you can tell it explicitly which one to pick [07:30] yes, it is the /etc/asound.conf, but i cannot find what is to be written [07:32] lemme see what mine looks like [07:33] yes please [07:33] hah not much in the way of documentation with alsa [07:33] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [07:33] rahul_ [07:33] when i write route -n [07:33] gateway is 0.0.0.0 [07:34] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) joined ##slackware. [07:34] dont use route [07:34] use ip route list [07:34] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) left irc: Client Quit [07:34] pppoe-status.. [07:34] and pppoe is connected [07:34] no i don't have internet [07:34] i can't open pages .. irc [07:34] .. [07:34] ? [07:35] ? [07:35] ne7work, you should have a default gateway, something like 192.168.1.1, what is ur gateway? you can add one using #route add default gw [gateway_ip_address], [07:35] be patient ne7work [07:35] again...dont use route [07:35] use ip route [07:36] hey straterra , how do i change default alsa device to something elsE? not the card but the device [07:36] one is 78.83.152.0 [07:36] other 127.0.0.1 [07:36] the third is 0.0.1 [07:36] rahul_: have a look at alsa-lib-1.0.22/doc/asoundrc.txt [07:36] rhaul, ive no idea..i have no idea what your issue is [07:36] or 1.0.23 [07:36] ne7work, pastebin ip route list [07:36] are u using, current GooseYArd [07:36] Kaapa (~Something@bl11-3-198.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [07:38] straterra, i am running slack13x64, custom kernel 2.6.32.2, alsa stock 1.0.18, and it picks nvidia hdmi instead of alc888 analog on the sound card, how do i make it pick the analog thing. cause i do not have the front/side/center controls on hdmi controls [07:39] Kaapa (~Something@85.242.106.103) joined ##slackware. [07:39] Do as GooseYArd says then [07:40] straterra route -n in pastebin? [07:40] no [07:40] ip route list [07:40] rahul_: ah disregard about alsa-lib-multilib, theyre compat32 packages [07:42] so you'll just want to get slackware64/source/l/alsa-lib, drop the 1.0.23 tarball into it, rebuild it, then rerun the multilib compat32 script [07:42] although I think you just need to edit your asound.conf [07:42] since 1.0.23s change notes dont have anything that sounds interesting in your situation [07:42] i do not want to recompile now, i want to fix the thing first [07:43] straterra i go to.. try [07:44] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) left irc: [07:44] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) joined ##slackware. [07:48] why u recommend using iproute straterra [07:56] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:56] wolven (~wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:57] fabioSLCK (~fabio@189.73.55.143) joined ##slackware. [08:01] fabioSLCK (~fabio@189.73.55.143) left irc: Client Quit [08:01] jg71 (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:01] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-72-82-76-34.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:02] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [08:02] straterra [08:03] give us good news ne7work [08:03] :( [08:03] i picture it when i write ip route list [08:03] can i send you here picture? [08:03] jg71 (~edud@94.229.77.218) joined ##slackware. [08:03] put it on pastebin.com [08:03] jg71 (~edud@94.229.77.218) left irc: Changing host [08:03] jg71 (~edud@unaffiliated/jg71) joined ##slackware. [08:04] i can't copy/psate [08:04] i can't copy/paste [08:04] i picture it [08:04] ? yea sure u can upload pic there i guess [08:04] zux1wrk (~zux@212.93.97.139) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [08:04] put somewhere like tinypic or flickr etc dude [08:05] http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2432/250420103602.jpg [08:05] straterra and rahul_ [08:05] http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2432/250420103602.jpg [08:05] :( [08:06] what the hell u took a pic via a camera ne7work [08:07] are u chatting from the same computer? [08:09] rahul_ yes [08:09] hmm... [08:09] i have 2 os [08:09] hughszg (~hugh@218.82.200.216) joined ##slackware. [08:09] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-91.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [08:09] can u do a ping when u are on linux? [08:10] ping what? [08:10] my ip? [08:10] ping 78.83.153.108 or? [08:10] can u ping the gateway 78.83.152.1, or whatever it would be when u type in ip route [08:11] ;( [08:11] it so hard :D [08:11] in pppoe-setup [08:11] r u using 13 or current [08:11] i type my username after no for.. and for dns what i write? [08:12] Did you see that I connect? [08:12] whats dns provided by ur ISP? [08:13] please give me example [08:13] in pppoe is only username and password [08:13] please try ping [gateway] first [08:13] no dns in windows and ubuntu [08:13] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:13] gateway? [08:13] ping 78.83.152.1? [08:13] for dns use dns from opendns.com [08:13] yes ne7work , be patient [08:14] opendns = 208.67.222.222 [08:14] where it? [08:14] when i go to opendns.com ? [08:14] my ip is 78.83.153.108 [08:14] ? [08:14] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [08:16] ne7work, setup dns as 208.67.222.222, after doing pppoe-connect, do a ip route, then ping ur gateway, ping 208.67.222.222, let us know results [08:17] i go to write in pppoe-setup for dns 208.67.222.222 and ping 208.67.222.222 and go here for give you picture? [08:17] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [08:18] ok [08:18] ne7work (ne7work@78.83.153.108) left irc: [08:20] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:21] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430888.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [08:21] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [08:22] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430888.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:22] wobbles (~huntsman@C-59-101-251-130.bur.connect.net.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:22] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [08:22] Good morning. [08:22] hm.. [08:22] gm riza [08:22] It looks like I have backup going all the way to - archive 2007 12 22 a.tar [08:23] Interesting... [08:23] root_ (0@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [08:23] I want to be buried with these stuff. [08:23] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [08:23] root_ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using IRC as root is dangerous. Please reference "Using IRC as root" via google for further information. [08:23] backing up... rsync? [08:23] Archived. [08:24] riza, u know how to change alsa preferred device? [08:24] rahul_, hm. [08:25] Should be able to do this in ksys. [08:25] Unfortunately I don't remember. [08:25] that is new for me. what is ksys? [08:25] Sorry, KDE's control panel. [08:26] well the panel lists 3 devices, analog, digital and hdmi, but the mixer will only control the hdmi not the analog, how do i control front/center/side using hdmi? [08:27] Have to wait, I really don't remember. [08:27] I'm deaf anyway, so sounds aren't really something I ever thought about or looked into. [08:27] Sorry. [08:27] lolz thanks [08:27] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-246.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:27] sorry if u r really deaf riza [08:28] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:28] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:28] Yes. [08:28] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [08:28] sorry then [08:29] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter expired. [08:29] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*manhunter@unaffiliated/manhunter' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [08:31] reisio (~reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) joined ##slackware. [08:31] reisio (reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:32] reisio (~reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) joined ##slackware. [08:34] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [08:34] zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz [08:35] rahul_: I'm with you man, agreed [08:35] reisio (reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:37] jnss_ (janes@gateway/shell/sign.io/x-vwlduembtdtjdmud) joined ##slackware. [08:37] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@gateway/shell/sign.io/*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [08:37] jnss_ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: requested [08:48] rahul_: stop channel spam pls [08:49] phrags (phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [08:49] phrags (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [08:54] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [08:56] phrag, k sure, lets talk then [08:57] no, just stop spamming the channel [08:58] well i need help to change default device in alsa, can u help phrag [08:59] VanRoy (~kitsilano@mna75-2-82-67-196-165.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:59] If no one answers then there is no one who can [08:59] Or is interested, or has the time [09:00] hey alienBOB , can u help me, please, i have been trying to get over with this problem since a long time [09:00] rahul_: what did the alsa website tell you to do ? [09:00] rahul_: google asoundrc [09:00] rahul_: or you could've visited #alsa [09:01] i tried changing settings in asound.conf to make changes global, but if i do that then i get no sound at all [09:01] I am crippled by my lack of knowledge on the subject [09:01] rahul_: ALSA = bits in the butt [09:01] *pain [09:01] i know a little about it [09:02] i want to break a slackbuild down and find out how it works [09:03] rahul_: go ahead and pastebin your asound.conf, if we're not going to be able to fix it, #alsa could [09:04] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:04] find . \ \( -perm 777 -o -perm 775 -o -perm 711 -o -perm 555 -o -perm 511 \) \ -exec chmod 755 {} \; -o \ \( -perm 666 -o -perm 664 -o -perm 600 -o -perm 444 -o -perm 440 -o -perm 400 \) \ -exec chmod 644 {} \; [09:04] what does that do? [09:04] dustybin: http://www.slackwiki.org/Building_A_Package is a good link (it's only for packages that support DESTDIR) [09:04] http://pastebin.com/Yn36hfAz commented entries are what i tried and they failed [09:04] agentrhodes: i read that [09:04] dustybin: ok [09:05] rahul_: iirc, the syntax is pcm.!default [09:05] rahul_: did you visit http://alsa.opensrc.org/FAQ026 ? [09:06] dustybin: heres a hint [09:06] when one executes a slackbuild script it creates a package with the binary? [09:06] dustybin: that line changes permissions of executables to 755 and permissions of regular files to 644 [09:06] dustybin: everything before the -exec is looking for things of a certain mode, everything after the -exec is executing a chmod command to change their mode [09:07] ok [09:07] Razec (1000@187-27-195-166.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:07] dustybin: also, it finds files recursively with the tests in the parentheses taking highest precedence. [09:07] the tests are -o OR'ed [09:07] so that makes sure all the permissions are correct [09:08] slaker (~slaker@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [09:08] right [09:08] when i execute a slackbuild script, it creates a package with the binary [09:08] yes [09:08] when i execute: pkginstall package [09:08] how does the package know where to put all the bits on your system [09:08] do i need to reboot after editing the file or run some rc script [09:09] dustybin: try looking at the contents of the package file [09:09] tar tvf package.txz [09:09] ok [09:09] dustybin: it's an archive file - this stuff is nicely covered in the slackbook [09:09] right [09:09] student1 (~jpaish@ip-47.154.99.208.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net) joined ##slackware. [09:09] dustybin: you can try looking into one of the packages. they're arranged exactly how they should be installed [09:09] i will take a look [09:09] soon you will have great power [09:09] o_0 [09:10] except for the install/ tree and the doinst.sh which becomes a /var/log/scripts/$ENTRY [09:10] dustybin: slackware packages are simply tar packages. they get extracted to / when you do installpkg [09:11] my kid wants to poop in the sink [09:11] why does one need installpkg command ? why not just tar? [09:11] doinst.sh [09:11] obviously it does more than tar :) [09:11] dustybin: because installpkg does a little bit more than tar [09:11] right ok [09:11] it's a bash script, open it up and see what it does yourself :> [09:11] oh and the rootkit is embedded between the 2nd and 4th \ [09:11] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.126.107) joined ##slackware. [09:12] O_oooooooooo [09:12] dustybin: it executes the associated scripts (doinst.sh) and it places the package in the database so they can be easily removed later [09:12] \o [09:12] actually reading the scripts is invaluable, IMO [09:12] you then see how the packaging "ticks" [09:13] the logic is, every single application / tool, require different methods of installing [09:13] why isnt there some kind of standard for the developers [09:13] i'm buttin in here :) need asst brainstormin [09:13] system state isn't always that simple to maintain [09:14] dustybin: can't follow you there [09:14] same... [09:15] Talking to that fool ne7work in PM who can not figure out how to logout of his root session [09:15] so i'm in the process of wikifying my Archive/ of html/, Mirrors/ and Files/ (H, M, F hereafter :) [09:15] lol [09:15] bob ^D [09:15] or exit, which is the msdos/win thingy too [09:16] what rsync options are ideal for rsyncing slackbuilds.org ? [09:16] so the Archive/ is triple digit gigs in size, am i crazy or what to want to wikify it? (dont answer that) [09:16] after editing asound.conf how do i reload the alsa server, cause rc.alsa restart did not help, alienBOB [09:16] I know... but it is not my personal problem that someone requires me to helpp him logout in a private chat [09:16] alienBOB but you're stuck with it [09:16] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:16] No [09:17] alienBOB oh! or, vulcan nerve pinch will do [09:17] ne7work (1000@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [09:17] lol [09:17] I'll give him my ppaypal account, and will wait for an appropriate sum to appear there [09:17] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:17] Heh [09:17] yea yea sure sure [09:17] a nano-payment? [09:18] hello all I logged now with my username ne7work not as root [09:18] and now how to see my other partitions of windows and of ubuntu? [09:18] fdisk is a good start [09:18] df -h [09:18] ne7work run: sync; df -h [09:18] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:19] what does 'sync' do? [09:19] what i write? [09:19] write dirty blocks to the fs's on disk [09:19] ne7work sync; df -h [09:20] sync; df -h? [09:20] ne7work sync; df -h [09:20] rahul_: remove /etc/asound.state and then re-run /etc/rc.d.rc.alsa restart [09:20] ne7work@ne7work:~$ sync; df -h [09:20] Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [09:20] /dev/root 70G 5.1G 62G 8% / [09:20] Channel flood from ne7work -- kicking [09:20] tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm [09:20] /dev/sda1 49G 47G 1.9G 97% /media/disk [09:20] ne7work kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [09:20] ne7work (1000@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [09:20] lord.. [09:20] ne7work what's your mother tongue? [09:20] he pm'd the list to me now [09:21] SunTzu, bulgarian [09:21] ne7work dont pm me pls [09:21] ne7work ok [09:21] I think that "fdisk -l" will be needed first ne7work.. it will list available disks and partitions [09:21] Then mount your ubuntu and windows partition somewhere to be able to access them [09:21] nder user? [09:21] as root i can view all parititions ? [09:21] I think I need a good cup of tea [09:22] now how to set and in username ne7work to see all partitions? [09:22] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) joined ##slackware. [09:22] ne7work: you better be root to do all that (run "su -") [09:22] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:23] when i write su and my pass in terminal [09:23] again i can't view my windows partitions [09:24] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.230.25) joined ##slackware. [09:24] alienBOB, no good done, my aplay -l, has the analog thing as device 0, but now still hdmi is in mixer [09:24] i cannot wait to get some new server hardware [09:25] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:25] rahul_: your alsamixer can switch to another device [09:25] someone earlier told me about typing f6 in alsamixer, it did not work for me, [09:26] any other way to switch to other device alienBOB [09:26] neonflux: write su; then enter root password, after that you will be as root, and now you can enter or: fdisk -l or cfdisk [09:26] alsamixer -c0 [09:26] off topic but interesting: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8642558.stm [09:26] neonflux: ne7work [09:26] JIOCb, da? [09:26] yes* [09:26] rahul_: F6 [09:26] The function key [09:27] mako-dono (~mako@81.22.25.60) joined ##slackware. [09:27] da da [09:27] yea. i was saying the same [09:27] sorry for putting the "typing" thing there [09:27] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.28.211) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:28] JIOCb, what what? [09:28] slaker (~slaker@cpc3-seve13-0-0-cust106.popl.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:32] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:32] how to view other partitions :( [09:33] < alienBOB> I think that "fdisk -l" will be needed first ne7work.. it will list available disks and partitions [09:33] Why would every single torrent file I download be corrupted? [09:33] thanks alienBOB , i think i will give up on trying to fix current alsa, how do i compile multilib alsa, i tried reading some documents here and there but i could not understand. [09:33] Everything else I download turns out fine [09:33] agentrhodes, and after fdisk -l? [09:33] Euthanatos, what are u using to download the torrent [09:34] firefox [09:34] like [09:34] not the contents of the torrent [09:34] just the tracker file [09:34] this is what transmission reads as corrupt [09:34] agentrhodes, after i write fdisk -l again i can't open partitions and listen music from them? [09:34] rahul_: read http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [09:34] ne7work: they need to be mounted [09:35] how? [09:35] hughszg (~hugh@218.82.200.216) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [09:35] so I'm guessing the probalem may be with transmission [09:35] ne7work: what filesystems are on those partitions ? [09:35] try some other client Euthanatos , ktorrent or deluge [09:35] ntfs and ext [09:35] not only one of them [09:35] deluge is very good [09:35] i have 2 windows and 2-3 linux [09:35] Euthanatos: does this only occur wwhen downloading the torrent file via firefox ? [09:35] I'll try deluge [09:35] ne7work perhaps you should take a little time to read some basic Slackware Linux background... these are all basic questions [09:35] ne7work: probably the easiest method is to go ahead and add entries to you /etc/fstab [09:36] *your [09:36] phrag, I don't have another browser client so IDK [09:36] simplyska1 (~simplyska@cpc1-stme3-2-0-cust492.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:36] hmm no wait i do have seamonkey [09:37] alienBOB, i tried the 32dev.sh thing some time back and it did not help for compiling. [09:37] how to mount partitions please tell me please :( [09:37] hmm, why does bash seem 'cache' my su - permission longer now.. as in im not reprompted for root pass to su - ? [09:37] hey guys, how do you add a new user to proftpd? ive already got one working from when i set it up before, but cant seem to get another working? [09:38] simplyska1: each system user you add will automatically be able to use proftpd [09:38] i've noticed it since the sudo upgrade [09:38] Yeah seamonkey fucks it up too [09:39] i write mount /dev/sda1 [09:39] and? [09:39] mako-dono, thats what i thought but it wont connect to ftp through the new user i created =S [09:39] ne7work, http://tldp.org/LDP/bugzilla/Bugzilla-Guide/index.html [09:40] uh oh sorry ne7work [09:40] ne7work: you need to also give it a mount directory [09:40] mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt busy [09:40] mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /media/disk [09:40] ? [09:40] Like "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/hd" [09:40] http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Partition/ ne7work [09:40] Well there you go, is sda1 a USB drive? [09:40] ne7work: yeah, what's in /media/disk [09:41] whats output of mount and fdisk -l, ne7work [09:41] agentrhodes, i can't see anything in /media/disk [09:41] simplyska1: it has been few years since the last time I setup proftpd, I don't think much changed since then [09:42] rahul_ (rahul@123.236.187.142) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:43] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:43] please people someone help me :( [09:43] mako-dono, where would i grant access to users though? in proftpd.conf it just lists nouser, and nogroup [09:45] simplyska1: I suppose there was something like 'requireValidShell' or something [09:45] the full manual should on proftpd's site [09:46] and yes, that was in proftpd.conf [09:46] also you can setup anonymouse users that don't really need a valid shell [09:46] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-112-243.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [09:47] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-86-122.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:48] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [09:48] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-86-122.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [09:49] simplyska1: http://www.proftpd.org/docs/faq/linked/faq-ch5.html [09:50] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:50] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [09:51] alisonken1home (~alisonken@pool-71-104-224-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:51] need skype for slackware 13.0 x64? [09:52] There's a question mark at the end, but that's not really a question :-) [09:53] ne7work: no I don't. [09:53] but... it changes the inflection ?! [09:53] The 32-bit version works, and is your only option, but you need to make your system multilib. [09:53] maybe he's looking for people to sky with? ;-p [09:54] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-86-122.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:54] john_dee (~id@93-81-70-157.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:54] ne7work: did you ever get at the contents of your partitions ? [09:55] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.126.107) left irc: Quit: We were always meant to say goodbye... [09:55] ne7work: rahul's advice to pastebin your mount and fdisk -l output could help us help you [09:56] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.122.201) joined ##slackware. [09:56] impss (~impps@212.183.140.2) joined ##slackware. [09:56] agentrhodes, now paste in pastebin ? [09:56] yes [09:57] http://pastebin.com/MmYx66g7 [09:57] anyone tell me why ive chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.firehol and in rc.local i have ' . /etc/rc.d/rc.firehol start ' ..it atill starts firehol on boot ? [09:57] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/pk8jzm64.html [09:57] what does that mean? [09:58] i cant use that command as root ..it wont work ...why should rc.local beable to start it [09:59] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [09:59] Urgleflogue (~plamen@87-126-143-181.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [10:00] agentrhodes, ? [10:00] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [10:02] ne7work: have you tried mounting and listing the directories at the mountpoints for any of your other partitions ? [10:03] what i need to write ? [10:05] mako-dono, im even having trouble allowing anonymous access [10:05] mako-dono, i can log on anonymously but i cant write files. i tried commenting out LimitWrite but that doens't work [10:05] impss: your way of starting rc.firehol will make it run always, even if the script is not executable [10:06] yeah alienBOB i dont normally do it that way just wondered why ....does it just see 'firehol start ' [10:08] No, the source command " . " starts the script by feeding the content to your current shell [10:08] ne7work: in the "mount" command's most general usage, you run "mount -t $FILESYSTEM_TYPE -o $OPTIONS_NEEDED ${DEVICE:-/dev/sda1} ${MOUNTPOINT:-/mnt/sda1} [10:08] ne7work: is the language here difficult ? [10:08] If you remove that " . " at the beginning, it will do as you want [10:08] mount /dev/sda1 ? [10:08] i'm bg [10:09] ne7work: that only works if there's an fstab entry that tells the mount command all that it needs to know [10:09] ok thanks alienBOB [10:11] how to run fstab? [10:11] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [10:12] Edit /etc/fstab ne7work. [10:12] You don't run it, it is initialized at boot up. [10:12] riza, .. [10:12] simplyska1 (~simplyska@cpc1-stme3-2-0-cust492.5-2.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: [10:13] root@ne7work:/home/ne7work# /etc/fstab [10:13] bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied [10:13] VanRoy (~kitsilano@mna75-2-82-67-196-165.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [10:13] Yeah you need to be root. [10:13] lol [10:13] A regular user can't do so unless put in a group that can edit and administer system files. [10:13] fstab is short for filesystem table (or somesuch) and it has oen "entry" per line [10:14] *one [10:14] ne7work, you don't start fstab [10:14] Yup. [10:14] those entries give the mount command all the information it needs to do its job [10:14] Urgleflogue, well? [10:15] i write mcedit /etc/fstab [10:15] and now? [10:15] ne7work: have you found any decent documentation / guides in bg ? [10:15] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. 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[10:39] If you know nothing, I highly suggest you google "xampp" and learn about that instead. [10:40] AEnima1577: what is your site? [10:40] if i ever had a situation with 5+ users i would have my site hosted by some other nebulous entity [10:40] Srbo (~Srbo@93.86.17.51) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:41] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:41] FriedBob (~Drinne@c-68-55-75-187.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [10:41] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. [10:41] riza, in ubuntu [10:42] i install all one by one apache2, mysql-server, php5-mysql, phpmyadmin.. [10:42] If you are using Ubuntu, why are you asking here? [10:42] This is for Slackware. [10:43] <|crck|> :\ [10:44] ne7work, slackwares dont changed the name of the httpd project of apache foundation [10:44] so you just install, httpd, mysql [10:44] and download and configure phpmyadmin [10:48] why now i have /var/www/htdocs? [10:48] thats the default htdocs directory. [10:49] I think he's trolling... [10:49] spook, yes and slackware have apache or no at the moment? [10:49] and how to start.. [10:50] ne7work: it ships with apache httpd, yes. [10:50] ne7work: /etc/rc.d/rc.hrrpd start [10:51] ne7work: the name of the project is httpd. apache is the name of the software foundation. [10:51] hrrp daemon [10:51] that was a typo. [10:51] thumbs: i think it applies to this situation. hurp durp. [10:52] ne7work: ubuntu renamed it to apache2, which confused you. [10:52] ubuntu-- [10:52] *debian [10:52] ok, debian too. [10:52] debian-- [10:53] ubuntu *stole* it from debian :P [10:53] i can't install debian :( [10:53] ne7work: I just told you how to start it in slackware. [10:53] if you could you'd be in #debian annoying them. [10:53] ne7work: and no, you don't want to use debian. They httpd (apache2) package is terrible. [10:53] gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:54] near (~near@186.136.17.87) joined ##slackware. [10:55] their postfix and mysql packages are also terrible. [10:55] hi [10:55] i-ve got a question [10:55] ne7work: ask it! [10:55] i just installed slackware full [10:55] i've got an answer [10:55] from the cd [10:55] but you're not going to like it [10:55] lol [10:55] it boots etc [10:55] ne7work: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout [10:55] but i dont have startx [10:56] or kdm [10:56] or gdm [10:56] ne7work: press the enter key less often. [10:56] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:56] err [10:56] near: that was for you. [10:56] yes i understood later xD [10:56] near: google slackware and kdm.. I believe it's in the slackbook. it's not on by default [10:56] ne7work: only 1 cd? [10:57] near: from the cd, or the dvd? [10:57] I see, so the slackware instalation will give me only the cli and cli components ? [10:57] i'd bet dvd [10:57] i'll double bet cd 1 [10:57] yes only cd 1 [10:57] d'oh [10:57] at one point it asked for cd 2 [10:57] cd 1 doesnt have x [10:57] near: if you used the first cd, it won't install X [10:58] so, should i download the cd, or get them by ports ? [10:58] near: if you're online, you can use slackpkg to install those. [10:58] read documentation next time [10:58] ports are for ships :P [10:58] thumbs go on hands [10:58] but the documentation didint say anything about it [10:58] spook: gets old. [10:59] at least the part of installing [10:59] i read this: http://www.slackware.com/install/ [11:00] where is the documentation? [11:00] thumbs: i do. at the rate of 1 year per year [11:00] near: 1) get slackpkg 2) install the missing packages or 3) download cd2 and re-install on top of your current installation. [11:00] near: in the slackbook [11:01] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [11:02] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:04] artaud (~phgl82@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:04] I hope the lack of response from near means that he's reading docs. [11:06] yep [11:08] would it be wiser to just download the dvd [11:08] and install it all over again? [11:09] near: it'll probably be simpler. [11:09] near: since you already have cd1, just get cd2 [11:10] yes, and just install it, what would you recommend, kde or gdm? [11:12] near: they're different things. [11:12] in what sense? i only knew that gnome was more open source [11:13] near: KDE is a desktop environment, and gdm is a login manager [11:13] lol [11:13] i mean [11:13] gnome and kde [11:14] near: slackware doesn't ship with gnome. [11:14] unfortunately [11:14] fortunately. [11:15] :P [11:15] gnome is more open source? [11:15] near: if you insist on using gnome, there are third-party projects that support it. We don't support them here. [11:15] lf4 (~KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [11:15] oh, i swear thats not in the book! look it says: In addition to the GNOME and KDE desktops, Slackware includes a large collection of window managers. Some are designed to emulate other operating systems, some for customization, others for speed. There's quite a variety. Of course you can install as many as you want, play with them all, and decide which you like the most. [11:16] near: well, as of 11.0 IIRC, gnome was removed [11:17] Action: john_dee is leeching slack 11 %) [11:17] no 10 [11:17] omg noooooz [11:17] john_dee: that'll ship a very old build of gnome, too. [11:18] is there a way to know if you have 11 or 13? i mean uname- a only gives me the kernel [11:18] near: cat /etc/slackware-version [11:18] near: now, at this point, I feel that you're asking too many obvious questions, covered in the slackbook. [11:18] jk [11:18] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:20] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. 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[11:40] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:43] Razec (1000@187-27-195-166.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:45] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.122.201) joined ##slackware. [11:48] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [11:48] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Client Quit [11:48] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [11:48] so slackware is a bsd spin off? [11:49] Huh? No. [11:49] Not even close. [11:49] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.117.144) joined ##slackware. [11:49] but it has the bsd licence? [11:50] There are lots of different components to Slackware, each with their own license. [11:50] Most of them are licensed under some version of the GPL. [11:50] oh the thing is i saw the rc.d scripts and thought it was like freebsd [11:52] slackware uses sysv init with scripts tweaked to work more like bsd. [11:53] Nick change: spook -> agentagent [11:54] Nick change: jewbacca -> agentwookie [11:54] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:54] Nick change: surrounder -> agentsurrounder [11:55] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:56] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) joined ##slackware. [11:56] adamk (~user@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:56] smelling more and more of a troll [11:57] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:57] RJz0r (~ham@216-189-164-080-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:59] RJz0r (~ham@216-189-164-080-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] obvious troll is obvious (??) [12:00] thanks i got confused, another distro that uses them is gentoo, saw that the other day too [12:00] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [12:00] more like a near death experience [12:01] its actually a near lawliet experience [12:01] or nate river [12:02] The BSD license is a widely used license - so liberal in fact that Microsoft took the BSD-licensed TCPIP stack from UNIX and incorporated it into Windows [12:03] it's my fav one [12:03] s/incorporated/broke it/ [12:03] Anyone can use that license [12:03] All my SlackBuild and other scripts have that license [12:04] Action: agentwookie licenses his SlackBuild's BSD [12:04] I use the ISC license, therefore I'm a member of the ISC =) [12:05] I also use the WTFPL, there I'm a ........ [12:06] i didnt know poland had a wtf licence [12:06] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [12:07] they all suck cause they all have obnoxious all-cap text at the top [12:07] I've had issues for a while where a bunch of my startup scripts don't execute at boot [12:07] is there an error log somewhere, or someway to troubleshoot that? [12:07] near (~near@186.136.17.87) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [12:07] Your scripts, you are responsible for troubleshooting... [12:08] initself: your own scripts? how are they named and where do you put them? [12:08] my scripts run fine when executed from /etc/rc.d [12:08] they all have chmod 755 [12:08] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:08] their names? [12:08] does anyone use init.d with slackware ? [12:08] rc.tomcat [12:09] rc.postgres [12:09] rc.httpd [12:09] initself: read rc.d/rc.local [12:09] impss: you can use the init.d style startup scripts without any issues, but Slackware itself does not use them [12:09] adrien: read it? [12:10] rc.M shoudl run rc.httpd if it is +x [12:10] i dont use them when was it introduced 13 ? [12:10] cmair (~cmair@95.232.110.224) joined ##slackware. [12:10] rc.M is exce [12:10] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [12:10] alienBOB: [12:10] whats your runlevel, initself [12:11] the others? well they won't magically run, knowdamean? [12:12] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [12:12] alienBOB didnt know why it pu there .i bet 90% of slackware users dont use it [12:12] put* [12:13] rc.local? I use it all the time. Most of the users I know do, as well. [12:13] theres no place like rc.local [12:14] i basically configure the system with it ... dont touch the native scripts anymore ... all in one place ftw [12:14] in /etc/init.d/rc.local ? jkwood [12:14] /etc/rc.d/rc.local impss [12:14] yeah [12:15] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:17] mtkoan (mtkoan@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-zjddjynqbjhsprri) left irc: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net [12:18] mtkoan (mtkoan@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-pcnebpndqydkmlgh) joined ##slackware. [12:18] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.117.144) left irc: Quit: We were always meant to say goodbye... 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[12:40] fortunately i already had almost all the codecs (for other apps) [12:40] I don't use vlc anymore since I consider mplayer the better alternative [12:40] ente, i am also sticking to mplayer but wanted to put vlc together as a miniproject [12:41] ah [12:43] hi anyone using luks/lvm on there root partition and recompiled there kernel. I have copied my /usr/src/linux-2.6.29.6 to linux-2.6.29.6 and built the kernel put it in my unencrypted /boot partition created a new initrd and updated lilo. One thing i did also do was copy my modules /lib/modules/2.6.29.6-smp to 2.6..29-6-smp-cust however when booting i get an error that states the following [12:45] "using /lib/modules/2.6.29.6-smp-cust/kernel/lib/crc16.ko 686 ' crc16: version magic 2.6.29.6-smp mod_unload 686 should be 2.6.29.6-smp-cust" [12:45] i get that for 4 modules when booting. Im guessing it doesnt like the fact i have made a copy of my modules folder and used that instead? [12:45] the cp'ing of the lib/modules like that is bad mojo [12:45] because you changed that [12:46] you need to set the append in the kernel to -cust if you want instead of -smp [12:46] agentwario, i did [12:47] adamk (~user@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [12:47] Ono-Sendai (~ono_senda@87.19.113.201) joined ##slackware. [12:47] agentwario, or at least i am sure i did [12:47] did you do make modules && make modules_install ? [12:47] hi.. [12:47] if you did then it would be /lib/modules/2.6.29-cust [12:48] i think you may be right i think i missed the "make modules_install" by accident [12:48] i think that'll be the prob [12:49] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:49] mv the one you copied back [12:49] today is a rough hardware day for me [12:49] ive just removed the copied one [12:50] so i'm adding the scripts that don't run to rc.local [12:50] agentwario, i think that'll sort it many thanks :) [12:51] Ono-Sendai (~ono_senda@87.19.113.201) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:51] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-113-197-228.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-123-100-42.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [12:52] im gonna reboot soon find out :) [12:52] gaz (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:54] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-93-213.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[13:01] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Client Quit [13:01] Nick change: agentagent -> spook [13:02] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: њї»ОЅ »±І­ [13:04] lf4 (~KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:06] dimm0k (~dimm0k@pool-98-113-53-189.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] gaz (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:07] Action: dustybin is looking forward to a curry [13:07] does lilo support kernel 2.6.33.2's LZO kernel compression? i'm getting a Fatal: Kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.33.2 is too big, but if i switch to gzip, it's fine [13:08] Nick change: spook -> agentspook [13:08] dimm0k: you must have the lzo program installed. it doesn't come with slackware by default. [13:09] dimm0k: oops i read that wrong. [13:09] ls [13:10] dimm0k: though yes, I have used lzo and lilo together. [13:11] next thing we have is rar support in kernel .... geez [13:11] dbus in the kernel would be worse [13:11] and even worse than that: gconf in the kernel [13:11] Action: ente shudders in disgust [13:12] im shocked by your quaking [13:12] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.212.48) joined ##slackware. [13:12] agentwario: did you need to specify anything different in lilo.conf? [13:12] jg71: there are actually people requesting these dubious features [13:12] jg71: at least for dbus [13:12] dimm0k: nope. it's saying your kernel is too big though for some reason. [13:13] http://unixbus.org/ <- I somehow like aep's replacement for dbus though [13:13] yeah... i don't need lzo on my system to use this in the kernel do i? [13:13] yeees [13:13] i do? [13:14] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:14] it won't even finish creating the kernel if you don't [13:14] trf (1000@shiva.norgrind.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:15] unless -current added lzo in. Last time I used lzo I had to create my own slackbuild [13:15] hrmm, makes sense... i guess i shouldn't have stacked the compile process... didn't even see that part [13:16] CashewHorst (~peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:18] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:19] |Slacker| (~cris@189.116.252.243) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:20] lf4 (~KJR@174-126-66-255.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] lf4 (~KJR@174-126-66-255.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Changing host [13:20] lf4 (~KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [13:20] but is there the lzop binary? [13:21] last time I needed that one [13:21] do i need that if i compile? [13:21] edman007 (~edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Quit: C-x C-c [13:22] ne7work (1000@78.83.153.108) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:22] shonudo (~user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:23] 8o) [13:23] lzo and lzop is what i have installed [13:23] CashewHorst (~peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [13:23] CashewHorst (~peanutlx@c114-76-235-20.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Changing host [13:23] CashewHorst (~peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) joined ##slackware. [13:24] CashewHorst (~peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [13:25] I don't even use the lzo kernel feature anymore. Not really worth it to me. [13:25] gotcha, looks like lzo itself is just a library... do need to compile lzop [13:25] agentwario: what do you use now? [13:26] thank god comrad tux isn't here anymore [13:27] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [13:27] Srbo (~Srbo@93.86.17.51) joined ##slackware. [13:27] dimm0k: on this netbook it is in fact lzo, though when I create for other machines of mine i just use lzma which is slackware default now. [13:27] ne7work (1000@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [13:27] psYcker (~psYcker@201.165.131.204) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:28] alkos333 (~alkos333@108.101.212.48) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:28] psYcker (~psYcker@201.165.131.204) joined ##slackware. [13:29] gotcha [13:30] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:30] if i think about it when I recompile on this machine i might make it gzip again [13:30] anybody here using pkgsrc? [13:31] Bartron (~Bartron@83.119.172.124) joined ##slackware. [13:31] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [13:33] Durf (~chatzilla@CPE-58-165-238-32.sa.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [13:33] Does anybody know if there's an XFCE version of Slackware? [13:33] jeev: =) [13:33] lf4 (~KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:34] Durf: xfce is installed by default [13:34] k [13:34] no need for a specific version [13:34] I'll go read slackbook more [13:34] i am clearly lacking knowladge [13:34] Durf (~chatzilla@CPE-58-165-238-32.sa.bigpond.net.au) left irc: Client Quit [13:34] dimm0k (~dimm0k@pool-98-113-53-189.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: new kernel! [13:35] \o/ [13:36] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [13:36] wolven (~wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [13:36] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:37] Action: adrien wonders if jeev got it [13:39] TheSecret (~TheSecret@c-69-141-34-70.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:39] how can I make zsh inheret the colors for ls slackware has setup? [13:39] lf4 (~KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. 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[13:54] near (~near@186.136.17.87) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:55] TheSecret: with ls --color [13:55] asdfg (~asdfg@200.121.21.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:55] phrags (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [13:56] TheSecret: for automated approach, see /etc/profile.d/coreutils-dircolors.sh [13:56] TheSecret: you can add an alias to your .bashrc for ls to be ls --color [13:56] and figure out how to make zsh read either that file (if it's compatible with zsh), or copy the necessary bits and make a zsh version [13:57] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.91.114) joined ##slackware. [13:57] er.. yeah. ^^ [13:57] ah - that file caters for zsh [13:57] equiv of .bashrc [13:57] Action: MoZes nods [14:01] infact there is an /etc/zprofile which is symlinked to /etc/profile ; setting a user's shell to /bin/zsh on my - current system gives colour ls. [14:02] actually it's .zshrc , as I just noticed it's not actually reading .bashrc. [14:03] MoZes: I get ls with --color [14:04] hmm [14:04] I forget what my question was [14:04] oh yes [14:04] the answer is no, TheSecret [14:04] alkos333 (~alkos333@70-8-149-197.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:04] how can I get zsh to inheret LS_OPTIONS? [14:05] by default root has this set in the alias for ls [14:05] TheSecret: just edit either .zshrc or /etc/zprofile [14:05] agentwario: Since it is already in .zprofile though, why isn't it inherited? [14:05] I'm not looking for a solution but to try and understand [14:05] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2009-07-07 01:19 /etc/zprofile -> profile [14:06] yes, I know..... [14:06] not an answer to anything I asked... [14:06] TheSecret: you need to ask a different question [14:06] the answers you've been given are correct for the question :) [14:06] why is LS_OPTIONS only set for bash shells [14:06] TheSecret: then it's probably /etc/zshrc for global settings and ~/.zshrc for per user settings. [14:06] when zsh reads /etc/profile just the same as bash? [14:06] MoZes: No, it's not the correct answer [14:07] because zsh looks for a file named zprofile? [14:07] it's just a naming issue [14:07] adrien: which is linked to profile [14:07] TheSecret: the correct answer is what I just said [14:07] again, point? [14:07] TheSecret: in my case [14:07] TheSecret: didnt MoZes already tell you? /etc/profile.d/coreutils-dircolors.sh doesnt get sourced for zsh [14:07] no, you have to listen to what I am asking, not what you think I am asking [14:08] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [14:09] TheSecret: why don't you man zsh like i just did instead of asking here? [14:09] sahk0: OK, so why doesn't zsh process coreutils-dircolors.sh since it is run from /etc/profile, and even has a specific section for zsh? [14:09] agentwario: because my question is specific to slackware, not zsh [14:09] agentwario: again, you have to listen to what I am actually asking [14:10] TheSecret: if you notice there is a seperate section for zsh in coreutils-dircolors.sh [14:10] yes, I just said that above [14:10] in fact, it was part of my question [14:11] coreutils.sh should just be appended to /etc/profile and so should be inherited by zsh via zprofile [14:11] it isnt, so why not? [14:11] TheSecret: it works fine on my system. LS_OPTIONS exists in zsh too [14:11] echo $LS_OPTIONS in zsh - works [14:11] yes, its blank for me [14:11] thats what I am trying to figure out [14:12] ok [14:13] as root, do echo foo >> /etc/zprofile [14:13] sigh [14:13] then su - to your user who has a zsh shell [14:13] TheSecret: i understand what your saying [14:13] see if you're actually using that script [14:13] Srbo (~Srbo@93.86.17.51) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:13] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:13] TheSecret: i'm not sure why it's not sourcing it [14:13] I am using that script, because I set up my zsh prompts gloally through /etc/profile [14:14] TheSecret: please read the script. /etc/profile.d/coreutils-dircolors.sh gets sourced by all shells other than zsh [14:15] sahk0: That doesn't seem to be what it implies [14:15] "it" ? [14:15] it states that their are different options for zsh [14:15] not that it doesnt get sourced by zsh [14:16] it = /etc/profile.d/coreutils-dircolors.sh [14:16] TheSecret: what encryption do you use? [14:16] ok maybe didnt read it throughout [14:16] TheSecret: yeah ... [14:16] dustybin: none [14:16] if [ "$SHELL" = "/bin/zsh" ]; then LS_OPTIONS=( $OPTIONS --color=$COLOR ); [14:16] TheSecret: for 'The Secret' ? [14:17] all that is is that zsh works differently from sh - so you need to actually create the environment variable in a different way [14:17] but the *options* to "ls" are identical [14:17] dustybin: Just a nickname that wasnt taken in this pseudnym starved society.... [14:17] heh [14:17] okay, if you zsh and then echo $SHELL it still says /bin/bash [14:18] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-155-157.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [14:18] MoZes: no, it says /bin/zsh [14:18] oops, didnt mean to addres that you MoZes [14:19] TheSecret: what happens if you do [14:19] source /etc/profile.d/coreutils-dircolors.sh [14:19] if I do unset LS_OPTIONS; source /etc/profile.d/coreutils-dircolors.sh [14:19] then I find LS_OPTIONS is repopulated as expected. [14:19] then it works [14:19] I don't have to unset LS_OPTIONS fist either [14:20] yeah you don't have to unset it. I was testing to see if it would be repopulated [14:20] so you see why I am confused [14:20] in which case I would guess that a script is failing before those /etc/profile.d/* scripts are called. [14:20] Action: jg71 looks around for Azeotrope [14:20] I have seen with csh and tcsh that if something fails - even silently - then execution stops. [14:21] hmm [14:21] well $PATH gets set [14:21] I'd just do the "echo foo" debug routine incrementally in /etc/zprofile until you find where it is stopping. you can make it easier by using su - rather than having to login again via ssh or whrever [14:21] Imy prompt gets set [14:21] my umask gets set [14:21] does the eval line work in zsh? i think the problem is with /etc/DIR_COLORS rather than anything else [14:22] and right after umask should be coreutils-dircolors.sh [14:22] sahk0: i think you are right [14:22] how do you mean? [14:24] Razec (~razec@201-1-113-208.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:24] sahk0: no that is not correct [14:24] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.12.231) joined ##slackware. [14:24] dircolors outputs the shell variable contents using /etc/DIR_COLORS as its input [14:25] if you just do grep -r DIR_COL /etc , you'll see dircolors being called by the profile scripts [14:25] MoZes: i dont mean thhat /etc/DIR_COLORS is wrong. the line in /etc/profile.d/coreutils-dircolors.sh for dir_color, does it work? [14:25] in zsh* [14:25] sahk0: oh I see -- yes it works on my -current system [14:26] it works fine when i source the script manually [14:26] TheSecret: what if you add a new temporary user who has a /bin/zsh shell, so they have a clean home dir, then su - to them. [14:26] maybe ask in #zsh. copy the scripts in a pastebin and ask [14:26] yeah, i also have to source it manually [14:26] then you'll know for sure that there's hopefully nothing bad in their local .zshrc (or whatever they are called for zsh) scrits [14:27] I mean, I just did it and it works fine. but I haven't modified my /etc/profile* scripts at all. [14:27] idk [14:27] i'm past the line of caring at this point [14:27] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-155-157.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:29] /win 14 [14:29] blarg [14:29] AEnima1577 (~clbarnob@n146s188.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:30] . [14:30] i need help for this alien for 32bit applications on slackware 64 [14:30] please [14:30] :( [14:30] juan--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [14:31] hi o/ [14:31] how hard can it be, ne7work [14:31] Nick change: fire|bird -> agentfirebird [14:31] just for curiosity, why slackware use lilo instead of grub ? [14:31] read the wikipage that was linked to you. follow it. [14:31] jg71: juan--d-_-b because it works [14:31] now, why use grub instead of lilo [14:32] ne7work: i wont be your teacher. sorry. [14:32] please [14:32] :( [14:32] MoZes: trying now [14:33] i was not in your convo, adrien ;) [14:33] argh :P [14:33] tab-fail ;-) [14:33] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:34] MoZes: OK, how odd! it works with a new user [14:34] juan--d-_-b: It works. It's always worked, even before grub existed. So, to turn your question around, why should slackware switch to grub instead sticking with what it's always used? [14:34] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:35] and it has stable releases and works with ext4 :P [14:35] adamk: i don't know, i don't have nothing against lilo, it was just a question because almost every distribution out there is using grub now =P [14:36] fire|bird (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:36] do you know of a living lemming, juan--d-_-b ? no? that's the fate the other distros will suffer. teehee. [14:36] Nick change: fire|bird -> agentphoenix^ [14:36] its a good point. lilo works, but grubs is nicer in many respects [14:36] i dont want it nice, i want it working. ;) [14:37] id be surprised if there wasnt some slackbuild for grub by now. either in /extra or on sbo. [14:37] so you can pick your fav bootloader. no harm done. [14:38] grub can display a 3D lolcat background while you select the entry to run with a rocket launcher [14:39] jg71: they both work equally well :) [14:39] lol [14:39] TheSecret: ill take your word for it [14:39] jg71: awesome [14:39] Action: jg71 takes notes. [14:39] I changed my mind, give me my word back [14:40] no refunds, rants only [14:40] well, no thanks [14:40] TheSecret (~TheSecret@c-69-141-34-70.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:41] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [14:44] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:44] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.122.201) joined ##slackware. [14:45] Sounds good [14:46] ente (ente@unaffiliated/n0nsense) left ##slackware ("Broken Pipe"). [14:47] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:47] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [14:50] i seriously doubt thunderbird has any other advantage over any other MUA besides being cross platform [14:52] hugohagogo (~cleber@187.64.66.121) joined ##slackware. [14:53] Ah [14:53] it has: its name. [14:55] which reminds me of sylpheed claws, i wanted to check it out again. btw, has enigmail seen the light of day, offering a 64bit version yet? [14:55] i think so [14:56] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:57] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [15:02] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:03] juan--d-_-b (Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left ##slackware. [15:03] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.230.25) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:04] near (~near@186.136.17.87) joined ##slackware. [15:06] hi [15:06] i just downlaoded cd 2 to install kde [15:06] but it wont boot [15:06] any ideas why? [15:07] cd 2 is not bootable [15:07] near: install from cd1 [15:07] near: then, insert cd2 when prompted. [15:08] its already installed [15:08] cd 1 i mean [15:08] ive got only cli [15:08] near: you need to do a full install, and provide cd2 when prompted. [15:09] near: or you can install all the packages from cd2 now. Up to you. [15:09] he could mount the cd and tell pkgtool to install from there, right? [15:09] in theory.. [15:09] yes [15:10] how to install the ones from cd2 ? should i boot with cd 1 and choose to install cd2? [15:10] near: you have a working installation now, right? [15:10] yes [15:10] near: boot it, put cd2 in, mount it, then use installpkg [15:11] fun ensues. [15:12] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:12] already mounted [15:12] near: terrific. [15:13] but [15:13] what package? [15:13] it asks for a tgz [15:13] near: see the slackbook regarding how to install packages. [15:15] near: you'll need to be self-sufficient if you have any chance to survive this. [15:16] Action: agentraela hands thumbs an ice cold beer of his favorite variety [15:16] thumbs: have you used apache before by any chance? [15:16] dustybin: I hope that's a joke. [15:16] :P [15:16] dustybin: I've been supporting the project since 1.3 [15:16] jeeeze [15:17] lol yes i know [15:17] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.91.114) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:17] but i use ircs to point me in the direction xD [15:17] i used installpkg -r in the cdrom drive [15:17] should work [15:17] Strykar (~wakka@122.169.91.114) joined ##slackware. [15:18] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.73.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:21] gaz (~gareth@xvm-12-22.ghst.net) joined ##slackware. [15:21] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.73.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:22] Razec (~razec@201-1-113-208.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:23] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) joined ##slackware. [15:24] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [15:27] Hello (~Hello@97-127-216-99.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [15:28] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-155-157.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [15:28] should the pkgtool give an output? [15:28] yes. [15:28] artv61 (~user@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:29] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.12.231) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:29] deepdaemon_ (~deepdaemo@190.231.102.143) joined ##slackware. [15:29] Evilaz (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [15:29] Hello guys [15:29] I got a problem whit lilo config. [15:29] Fatal error: [15:30] I've been traying lot of things since friday but i cannot solve it [15:30] deepdaemon_: provide more details. [15:30] isBEKaml (~keml@122.174.122.201) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:30] thumbs, ok [15:31] I configure my lilo.conf whit a section ti boot ubuntu [15:31] and when I run /sbin/lilo [15:31] sbin/lilo -v [15:31] it gives me [15:32] deepdaemon_: you need to press the enter key less often, for one. Secondly, pastebin the lilo.conf, and the full error. [15:32] thumbs, Ok, sorry for the enter key thing. I'll came back with hole erros post [15:33] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [15:33] too bad, even opera plays ball with my setup, sylpheed just craps on me. [15:34] could i have a old version of installpkg ? [15:34] # Slackware [15:34] image = /boot/vmlinuz [15:34] root = /dev/root [15:34] Channel flood from deepdaemon_ -- kicking [15:34] label = Linux [15:34] read-only [15:34] deepdaemon_ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [15:34] im trying installpkg -r /mnt/cdrom/ and it says there is no option for -r [15:34] yet the book says there is [15:35] near: try cd dir/;installpkg *.tgz [15:35] its not recursive [15:35] Nick change: Hello -> nix_chix0r [15:35] and there are like 7 folders in the slackware folder [15:36] near: do 7 operations then. [15:37] Nick change: nix_chix0r -> agent{nix_chix0r [15:37] yeah im on it [15:37] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [15:37] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [15:37] there is a program called install-packages* as you would guess it installs all of them xD [15:37] Nick change: agent{nix_chix0r -> agent|nix_chix0r [15:37] if you read the upgrade.txt theres some installpkg */*.tgz magic mentioned ... sorry, *.txz [15:37] at least there should be ... [15:37] yeah its called installpkg */*.t?z [15:38] should cd 2 come with the kernel source ? [15:38] jg71: beat me too it [15:38] Nick change: agentspook -> agent|spook [15:38] frank_ (~deepdaemo@190.231.102.143) joined ##slackware. [15:38] thumbs, I was kicked [15:38] frank_: I know. You didn't use a pastebin. [15:39] thumbs, Ok [15:40] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-111-155-157.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:40] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:40] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [15:41] patition table is: sda1 ubuntu root directory, sda3 slackware root directory (boths in sda hard disk) whit lilo installed over the MBR. [15:41] boths sda1 and sda3 partitions seted as booteable [15:42] frank_: you need to use a pastebin and give me what I asked for. [15:43] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:43] This is lilo.conf: #For Slackware image=/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/root label=Linux, read-only. #For ubuntu: other=/dev/sda1 image=/boot/vimlinuz root=/dev/sda1 label=ubuntu table=/dev/sda initrd=/initrd.img read-only [15:43] johnbristol (~john@host-84-9-51-45.dslgb.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:44] frank_: you need to use a pastebin and give me what I asked for. 2x [15:44] lem (~root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [15:44] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:44] 15:28 < thumbs> deepdaemon_: you need to press the enter key less often, for one. Secondly, pastebin the lilo.conf, and the full error. [15:45] This is the error message when i run lilo -v: Added linux (This is ok) then... "Boot other: /dev/sda1, on /dev/sda, loader CHAIN. Fatal: First sector of /dev/sda1 doesn't have a valid boot signature [15:45] frank_: and where is the first thing I requested? [15:46] rahul_ (~rahul@123.236.187.142) joined ##slackware. [15:47] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:47] thumbs, What is pastebin? I'm from Argentina i don't understand some things. [15:47] frank_: google it up, quickly. [15:48] thumbs Done, we call that another way. [15:48] Nick change: agentwario -> agent|wario [15:48] pasteador? [15:49] pki--, just meh [15:49] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [15:49] any word on 13.1? [15:50] just mine, kslen [15:50] we all run 13.2 already, shhhhh. [15:50] thumbs, Here is the lilo.conf http://pastebin.com/8UrqFHRk [15:51] frank_: put the error in the same pastebin, at the bottom. [15:51] actually, it's pre-14.0-current thumbs [15:51] Nick change: agentraela -> agent|raela [15:51] :> [15:52] thumbs, this is it [15:52] http://pastebin.com/AP4jYy6a [15:52] Sorry for the enter thing xD, that was the last time. [15:52] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-74-104-2-246.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] frank_: did you make sda1 bootable? [15:56] thumbs, yes I did [15:56] frank_: what's the name of the kernel image on that partition? [15:58] are slack and ubuntu on the same disk? [15:58] ang, on the same hard disk, diferent partitions [15:58] hard to tell, since he used /dev/root instead of the real partition. [15:58] fix root = /dev/root so is has the real partition [15:58] frank_: what does /dev/root point to, exactly? [15:58] thumbs, How can I know that? Wmlinuz is just a link [15:59] frank_: ls -al [15:59] and i think the other = line is not needed [15:59] indeed. [15:59] thumbs, root = /dev/root was the default config of LILO to boot slackware. Is that bad? [15:59] nordle (~nordle@87.113.143.241) joined ##slackware. [16:00] his lilo.conf has too many options listed for the second partition. [16:00] frank_: what does /dev/root point to, exactly? [16:01] Action: thumbs gets tired of repeating his questions over and over. [16:01] it points to boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-20-generic [16:01] Hello, cd1 12.2, using vi command to edit fstab....but colon : does not send cursor to bottom to await command. Is it vi, or elvis? I thought the commands were mostly the same. Appreciate any help, in middle of rescuing system....ecept forgot one crucial thing, the fstab. [16:01] impss (~impps@212.183.140.2) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:01] frank_: do this ... ls -l /dev/root [16:02] pi31415 (~ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] ang /dev/root -> sda3 [16:02] if i compile the kernel with LVM built in instead of a module, does that mean i will not need to use initrc for LVM ? [16:02] well there you go [16:02] finally. [16:02] so you are in slackware now or ubuntu? [16:02] this weekend I got a nostalgia rush from textfiles.com [16:03] slackware i guess [16:03] thumbs, I told you that vmlinuz points to /boot/vmlinuz -2.6.31.20-generic [16:03] Now I am at slackware [16:04] frank_: yes, I saw your response. [16:05] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [16:05] Hi all [16:06] thumbsian [16:07] jeev: what? [16:07] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Client Quit [16:07] what are you up to [16:08] frank_: just do something like this: http://pastebin.com/XkWg6jSS [16:08] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [16:08] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Client Quit [16:08] since oyu have boot=/dev/sda i think it will look for all of the kernels and initrd's in /dev/sda1/boot [16:08] been a long time since i dual booted with one disk [16:09] acidstripper would know. but hes gone now. [16:10] ang, Should I put #ubuntu on first place. Wouldn't Boot ubuntu by default from that way? [16:10] frank_: whichever order you want [16:13] pi31415 (~ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:13] pi31415 (~ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] FRSoldier (frsoldier@93.94.25.110) joined ##slackware. [16:15] har (~AndChat@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:15] since oyu have boot=/dev/sda i think it will look for all of the kernels and initrd's in /dev/sda1/boot <-- ignore that; that's only an issue if you have /boot on it's own partition [16:16] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.12.231) joined ##slackware. [16:16] u can set default by using the option default = [label], frank_ [16:17] Evilaz (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] ang, It gives me an error here are boths the lilo.conf archive and the error message. I notice that not even the slackware-kernel or ubuntu-kernel file exits before change the lilo.conf but I did it anyway because I Apreciatte your help and will do whatever U say (almost, not really everyyyything) [16:18] http://pastebin.com/5M4vM759 [16:19] frank_, do the files slackware-kernel and ubuntu-kernel exist? [16:20] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.224.215.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:20] i think they dont, why dont u do #ls -lsth /boot/slackware-kernel, tell us what u get [16:21] !flash [16:22] ne7work: wrong command. [16:22] rahul_: is your name actually rahyoul_ ? [16:22] my name is rahul sahk0 [16:22] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) joined ##slackware. [16:22] thumbs, yes ;] :D [16:23] oh my mistake. you seem to use u as you all the time, so i figured you got it wrong in your own name too [16:23] oh haha, i am lazy [16:24] is there a channel rule to use no shortcuts / chat lingo, sahk0 [16:24] Here I am [16:24] rahul_: not really [16:24] i dont think so [16:25] frank_: you have to put the actually kernel .. i just made slackware-kernel and ubuntu-kernel up [16:25] ang, Are you there? [16:25] rahul_: it's simply annoying. [16:25] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:25] briareus (~briareus@174-22-207-15.phnx.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] briareus (~briareus@174-22-207-15.phnx.qwest.net) left irc: Changing host [16:25] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [16:25] Ok! I shall try being very British now! [16:26] fAu (~fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:28] rahul_: it's not about being British, it's about spelling correctly. [16:28] okies, thumbs [16:30] _marc` (~marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:30] ang, i'm such an asshole. I must know that. So, the kenerls must be on /boot/vmlinuz.... but on /boot (on slackware root menu) there is a vmlinuz link I shoul use that right? In the same way on ubuntu there is a /root/vmlinuz link to the kernel. Should I use on boths system that link in place of the direct path of the kernel? [16:30] frank_: you can use the name of the symlink, yes. [16:34] how do i change default device from hdmi to analog for alc888 sound card [16:34] i mean the mixer always shows controls of the hdmi and not the analog, i cannot control front/side/center/ :( [16:35] thumbs, I did it but the same error message "Fatal: First sector of /dev/sda1 doesn't have a valid boot sgnature" [16:35] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.12.231) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:35] ang, the same error :-/ [16:35] I'm dealing whit this since friday. I've read lot of things manuals and how to's but no result. [16:36] rahul_: in alsamixer you can select sound cards with F6 [16:36] frank_: pastebin fdisk -l [16:36] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.224.215.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:37] that does not work pprkut , i am running custom kernel on slackx13x64, kernel 2.6.32.2, aplay -l shows the 3 devices, analog, digital and hdmi [16:37] near (~near@186.136.17.87) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:37] yes? and? [16:38] what says the menu in alsamixer once you press F6? [16:38] frank_, u dont need the #other line for ubuntu [16:38] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430888.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [16:38] no response when i press f6 [16:38] ussr [16:38] thumbs Here it's http://pastebin.com/zTjfQaHi [16:38] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430888.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:38] vando (~vando@190.48.145.176) joined ##slackware. [16:39] frank_: huh, something's wrong. sda1 is not on the first sector. [16:39] vando (vando@190.48.145.176) left ##slackware. [16:39] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:40] rahul_: when you open alsamixer, does it mention F6 as shortcut in the upper right corner of the screen? [16:40] also frank_ u dont need the table line for ubuntu [16:40] no it does not pprkut [16:40] frank_: your partitions are screwed up. [16:40] Nick change: antiwire -> agentwire [16:40] agentwire (antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware. [16:40] rahul_: anythings else instead? [16:41] no shows nothing pprkut [16:41] student1 (jpaish@ip-47.154.99.208.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net) left ##slackware. [16:41] thumbs, What means that my partitions are screwed up, please say that could be easily fixed. It doesn't sounds like "fixeable" [16:42] rahul_: hmm, indeed, seems to be a new feature in newer alsa versions. [16:42] frank_, try removing those lines, and do a lilo -v [16:42] hmm what should i do now [16:42] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:42] rahul_: tried alsamixer --help ? [16:43] the -c switch might be interesting [16:43] rahul_, What lines? [16:43] i have only one card pprkut , but 3 devices on that card, so i need to do something with -D, but what is the argument [16:43] thumbs, What that means? [16:44] frank_: sda1 should use sector 1-x [16:44] frank_: the fact that for you sda3 is using that range indicates misordered partitions. [16:44] frank_, remove lines beginning with table = ... and other = ... [16:44] ne7work (1000@78.83.153.108) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:45] rahul_: no idea [16:45] frank_: and it's probably what is confusing lilo, too. [16:45] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) joined ##slackware. [16:46] rahul_: I would just try with a gui mixer like kmix. But that's me [16:47] pprkut, kmix shows no options for changing device [16:47] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:48] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:48] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [16:49] rahul_: no idea then [16:49] mtkoan (~mtkoan@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-mdfwwzjajeftbtyg) joined ##slackware. [16:49] FRSoldier (frsoldier@93.94.25.110) left irc: Quit: life is but a dream [16:50] thumbs, How can I do to reorder the partitions? to do that sda1 use sector 1-x. I have not idea of what that means. I just reapeat what u said. [16:53] near (~near@186.136.17.87) joined ##slackware. [16:54] has any one successfully used hugin on slackx64 [16:54] frank_: backup your data, wipe your partition table, and re-create it. [16:55] doesn't lilo have some kind of swap option? wonder if he could use that [16:56] s/swap/map-drive/ [16:56] ang: perja[s/ [16:56] perhaps. [16:56] but his partition table is screwed up. [16:57] did u try removing or commenting those lines and running lilo frank_ [16:57] rahul_, Yes I did but It doesn't cjange [16:58] change* [16:58] whats result of lilo -v [16:58] I mean the error message is the same [16:59] what frank_ [17:00] ok, we're entering on a knowledge field in what I'm totally lost. I mean about partitions on 1-x sector???? and what it is to wipe a partition table and how to do that. So could you give me some information or any links to know more about that and can understand what I'm doing and what's the problem with sda1. I need to repair this quickly you're helping a lot. [17:00] frank_: the real solution is not quick. [17:02] thumbs, Ok, I know. And for that I ask for links and manual U think I should read :-). I really apreciate you help I'm not looking for an easy way, I'm looking for an learning and efficient way to resolve it. [17:02] frank the hdd as seen by the software is made of many cylinders, first partition will lie on cylinders 1-2889 for example, second on 2889-3385 for example and so on, we can also speak same for sectors as for partitions, now in your case as you see partition 3 is having sectors 1- somethingsomething, and to fix this u need to delete entire partition table and create new [17:02] for that you have to back up data before u do that [17:05] neways bye guys, laterz [17:05] rahul_ (rahul@123.236.187.142) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:05] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-91.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:05] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:06] thumbs: i wonder if he opened fdisk, selected x then f ... what that would do :) [17:06] Any advice of what should I learn to get to nex step, I mena about partition and wiping. By wiping my partition table. Will I lose all the data on my hdd? [17:07] frank_: yes. you will lose everything [17:07] OMFG! [17:07] why are you fussing with your partition table? [17:07] mancha, what is fussing? jej [17:07] playing aroudn with it [17:08] mancha, because I got problem whit lilo.conf and it seems to be because my partition table is screwed [17:08] mancha: look at his fdisk -l [17:08] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:09] mancha: the partition occupying the first cylinder is sda3 [17:09] But i don't even know why it is screwed, when i screwed it, and how to wipe it. Will I lost EVERYTHING even the OS's? [17:10] it sounds like a lesson on the value of backups [17:10] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) joined ##slackware. [17:12] thumbs, what is the problem of occpying the first cylinder with slackware :S. Is that too bad? or the bad thing is that sda1 doesn't lie in first cylinder [17:12] could he do something like install lilo inside his ubunto partition and then use the other/table options? [17:13] or installing grub maybe? :S [17:13] nordle (~nordle@87.113.143.241) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:14] worth a shot [17:14] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:16] frak, what's the lilo error? [17:16] ang, haha, I've heard that grub is better. And easy to configure. But I really want to solve it using LILO, that way I will learn something, and not escaping from what I couldn't learned. [17:16] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:17] P4C0 (~paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [17:18] nvision (~nvision@g225056092.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:18] hello, why is elvis (editor) listed as requested? [17:18] mancha, Open vmlinuz no such file or directory [17:18] required I mean [17:18] pastebin your lilo.conf [17:18] mancha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeoh7vU6XsE [17:19] stupid nick completion [17:20] bleeding|edge (~fire|bird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [17:20] P4C0: because Pat likes it [17:20] |crck| (~cb796003@gateway/web/freenode/x-caetizuvcbyxtupr) left irc: Quit: Page closed [17:21] sahk0: ok :) [17:21] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:21] init[1] (buffer@divide.by.zero.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [17:22] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Nick change: init[1] -> Guest25001 [17:22] sahk0: do you know if it supports utf-8 ? [17:23] mancha, Her it's http://pastebin.com/KTAHhyHw [17:23] doubt it, but i dont install it so im not exactly sure [17:24] JIOCb (~Sps@94.30.152.114) left irc: Quit: slackware suspend mode is on. Goodnight all! [17:24] mancha, there are lot of erros. i.e seems like the ubuntu conf is taking his root rirectory as the directori root on sda3 wich is the slackware root [17:25] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:25] Nick change: bleeding|edge -> agentbleeding|ed [17:26] Nick change: agentbleeding|ed -> bleeding|edge [17:26] thanks [17:27] near (~near@186.136.17.87) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:27] kslen (~idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [17:27] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds [17:28] does slack have an initrd? [17:28] o_o whoah wtf... i think i just mounted something by clicking on a folder in the gtk open file browser [17:28] mancha, by default ? [17:28] not that i recall, i create one [17:28] it definitely has instructions about making one :-P [17:28] if i raid or lvm.. or anything fancy [17:29] frank_ (~deepdaemo@190.231.102.143) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:29] sQuEE (~narya@201.252.25.192) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [17:30] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [17:30] i mean frank's slack kernel [17:31] frank, try something like this:" http://pastebin.com/fTamkv1u [17:31] P4C0 (~paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [17:31] keiichidono (~johnsmith@24-145-68-042-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] ne7work (0@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [17:32] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:32] ne7work kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using IRC as root is dangerous. Please reference "Using IRC as root" via google for further information. [17:33] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [17:34] some linux distributions run as root by default [17:35] considering how extremely dangerous that is, i am surprised that i have never heard about one of their users being compromised [17:35] which ones? [17:35] what distros !? [17:35] puppy linux [17:36] what do you mean by "run as root by default?" that the only active account after the install is root ? [17:36] yes [17:36] Which would include Slackware [17:36] except puppy boots straight to a desktop and if you run a program, it runs as root [17:37] cmair (~cmair@95.232.110.224) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:38] slackerpete (~slackerpe@host86-154-105-133.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:38] if you ran gaim and joined ##slackware from puppy linux, you would get kicked off [17:39] not if you change your credentials [17:39] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:39] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [17:39] you can use irc and ##slackware all you want. slackboy doesnt finger you [17:40] Nick change: usus12jari -> Guest77614 [17:41] jonsmith1982 (~jon@212.183.140.55) joined ##slackware. [17:41] that is a good point, and it is easy to do in gaim [17:42] P4C0 (~paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [17:43] rv2733 (~rv2733@c-98-242-168-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:43] Nick change: agentc0re -> antic0re [17:43] I installed slackware 13 and then upgraded to -current, xorgsetup hangs the pc and for some reason it seems that dhcp times out on start up but if i do /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart it works ok (wireless card) are those known issues? [17:44] P4C0: What video card? Have you tried just 'Xorg -configure' to get a working xorg.conf? [17:46] adamk: no, I haven't, it's a nVidia GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a but with 13.0 it worked ok, maybe because now the console driver is loaded at start up? [17:47] nouveau should be used by default for the framebuffer console, though I don't know why that would cause problems with xorgsetup. [17:48] In any case, I would typically recommend 'Xorg -configure' to create an xorg.conf file (if you need/want one in the first place) anyway. [17:48] ThomasLocke (~ThomasLoc@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:49] adamk: I'll try Xorg -configure [17:50] If you want to use the nvidia driver, you will have to blacklist nouveau. [17:51] P4C0_ (~paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [17:51] it hangs again :p [17:52] cmeow (cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [17:52] Sounds like a bug to me, then :-) [17:52] jonsmith1982 (~jon@212.183.140.55) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:52] Guest77614 (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:52] how did you update to -current? [17:52] Does X start without an xorg.conf file? It *should* work. [17:54] thrice`: with slackpkg [17:54] adamk: let me check, btw, is there a way to avoid loading the framebuffer driver? [17:56] xorg-- [17:56] P4C0: There is a way to do it on the kernel boot line, but I don't remember exactly how. [17:57] You can always add the nouveau module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [17:57] And then reboot. [17:57] xinit started the X ok [17:58] P4C0 (~paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:58] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:58] adamk: I'll try that [18:01] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:01] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430888.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:02] even without the nouveau module it hangs :( [18:03] I thought that X started fine when you didn't have an xorg.conf file? [18:03] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430888.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:03] adamk: yes it did [18:03] but that's using vesa right? [18:04] No, that should autodetect which driver to use. [18:04] hey why do my feet smell so bad? [18:04] frank (~deepdaemo@190.231.102.143) joined ##slackware. [18:04] P4C0_: So it likely used either nouveau or nv [18:04] I've made it! YES! :D [18:04] GooseYArd, their nose is clogged? [18:04] why do feet smell and noses run when it should be that feet run and noses smell? [18:04] Skywise: i wish mine did [18:04] P4C0_: If it used vesa, then neither of the other drivers support that GPU. [18:04] er was [18:04] mancha, they actually do both [18:04] oh [18:04] adamk: is there a way to know the driver in use? [18:05] Perhaps you could take the smelling and running coversation to the offtopic channel, guys? [18:05] P4C0_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you. [18:05] P4C0_: Out of curiousity, though, all you are doing is running 'Xorg -configure' and the machine is hanging? [18:05] take your pills [18:06] adamk: yes, black screen [18:06] sahk0 (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:06] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-94-120.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] P4C0_: Can you log in from another machine or fall back to another console with control+alt+f2? [18:07] adamk: ctrl+alt+fx doesn't work, not even the caps lock light on the keyboard, I'll try to ssh [18:08] It's very surprising that 'Xorg -configure' would hang your machine, but that X itself works just fine without an xorg.conf file. [18:08] I have no real explanation for that. [18:08] Did you have the proprietary nvidia driver installed before updating to -current? [18:08] Xorg --configure exits and dumps you back to console no? [18:09] He said the entire machine hangs when he does that. [18:09] hangs or blacks the display and then sits there [18:10] i guess ssh will answer that [18:10] That's what I'm trying to find out from him. He can't drop to another console. [18:10] adamk: no, I first installed 13 and played around with it a bit, Xorg -configure worked ok, then I boot again with the installation cd, format everything and right after 13 installion I upgrade to -current with slackpkg [18:10] ok, I'm connected by ssh, let's see what happens after Xorg -configure [18:11] P4C0_: the -current kernel has got nouveau enabled, I ran into display reset issues like what you're describing [18:11] ssh connection seems to be ok [18:11] i would try blacklisting the nouveau module [18:11] GooseYArd: I did that already [18:11] the keyboard is blocked, the screen is black but my ssh sessions seems to stay up [18:12] Interesting... Did 'Xorg -configure' ever stop running? [18:12] adamk: yes, ps auxw | grep X shows nothing [18:14] adamk: Xorg log doesn't have a timestamp but last thing there is Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/newport_drv.so [18:14] Huh. I'd be interested in seeing the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and xorg.conf.new files that were generated. [18:14] Very odd. [18:14] xorg.conf.new? where should that be? [18:14] In whatever directory you were in when you ran 'Xorg -configure' [18:15] near (~near@186.136.17.87) joined ##slackware. [18:15] adamk: no files there [18:15] Well, this is indeed odd. [18:15] hi would installing the second cd of slackware 13 give me an x server to start? [18:15] you should be able to run Xorg -configure while you're ssh'd in and get the console output [18:16] adamk: want me to delete /var/log/Xorg.0.log, run i again and paste.bin it? [18:16] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] GooseYArd: should I do that? [18:16] can't hurt [18:17] i would also double check that somehow the nouveau module didnt manage to get itself loaded [18:17] oh... interesting... looks like my fault :p [18:17] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [18:17] Xorg: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/newport_drv.so: undefined symbol: LoaderRefSymLists [18:17] (while listing the video drivers) [18:18] _dieter_ (~dieter@109.250.19.240) joined ##slackware. [18:18] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [18:18] maybe I should reinstall xf86-video-newport-0.2.3-i486-1 ? [18:18] which version of that have you got [18:18] oh heh [18:19] should be the one in -current [18:19] same one here [18:19] brb dirty kid [18:19] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] adamk (~user@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [18:20] _dieter_ (~dieter@109.250.19.240) left irc: Client Quit [18:20] janemba (~cacao@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:21] I reinstalled newport_drv, still Xorg: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/newport_drv.so: undefined symbol: LoaderRefSymLists maybe it depends of something else? [18:22] ok, I removed the xf86-video-newport-0.2.3-i486-1, it works ok now :p [18:23] I fact I got the control back :p [18:23] Heh. [18:23] Sounds like the newport driver is compiled for a different version of Xorg. [18:23] frank (~deepdaemo@190.231.102.143) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:25] adamk_: but now I tested the configuration and back to the same :p [18:25] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:26] janemba (~cacao@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [18:26] adamk_: sorry no, it's ok :p [18:28] should I email Pat about this? [18:28] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:29] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [18:29] near (~near@186.136.17.87) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:29] P4C0_: running -current? [18:29] BP{k}: yes [18:30] so, symbols are tokens that represent thoughts and ideas. symbols in language (spoken, written or computer) are numbers or names; names can be of the usual fair or operators. [18:30] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:30] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [18:30] BP{k}: however not sure if the last version of it... I'm not using ftp.slackware.com [18:30] P4C0_: and you aren't sure why? [18:31] mirrors take some time sometimes [18:32] blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-139.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:33] BP{k}: yes I'm using -current (I checked the changelog of the mirror i'm using with ftp.slackware.com) [18:35] but this should be duplicable by anyone on -current with newport_drv installed (just by doing Xorg -configure) [18:36] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) joined ##slackware. [18:38] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [18:40] superGear (~macgear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [18:43] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:44] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-94-120.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:47] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [18:48] superGear (~macgear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:48] KaMii (~nebulae@91.90.29.143) joined ##slackware. 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[18:59] superGear (~macgear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:59] superGear (~macgear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:00] tuvok302Lappy (NoOneImpor@clgrtnt3-port-16.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:00] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-98-113-197-228.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] nordle (~nordle@87.113.143.241) joined ##slackware. [19:04] ne7work (1000@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [19:04] hello please help me ;( [19:04] superGear (~macgear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:04] please i need help [19:05] 24 hours i try too.. [19:05] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [19:05] 24 hours i try to fix it :(.. [19:05] superGear (~macgear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] You could say what your problem is [19:07] Or we could all just ignore him. [19:07] from this link http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.0/ I wget -rc http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.0/ [19:07] all [19:08] i vote to ignore [19:08] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) joined ##slackware. [19:08] in /root/ [19:08] please no ignore me :( [19:08] ok.. [19:08] And...what's the issue [19:10] i cd connie.slackware.com [19:10] and write upgradepkg --reinstall --install-new *.t?z [19:10] are there packages in there? [19:10] root@ne7work:~/connie.slackware.com# upgradepkg --reinstall --install-new *.t?z [19:10] Cannot install *.t?z: file not found [19:11] I wget -rc http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.0/ [19:11] i think your confusing slackpkg with upgradepkg command [19:11] KaMii: those are valid switches [19:11] ne7work: look in the directory your self..do you see packages? [19:12] Most likely not. You should have to cd to /root/connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.0/ [19:12] be noticed [19:12] and now preinstalling [19:13] when it ready? [19:13] superGear (~macgear@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:13] Nick change: Delahunt -> agent|Delahunt [19:13] mkdir compat32 ; cd compat32 ? [19:13] what? [19:14] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [19:14] i read here [19:14] please help me to complete this multilib ? [19:14] :) [19:15] Where i must make this directory ? [19:15] mkdir compat32 ; cd compat32 [19:15] straterra: have fun :) [19:16] i am so confused [19:16] why do you need to make a directory? [19:16] just download all the packages then install them with packagetool [19:16] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [19:16] ? [19:16] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [19:16] anywhere [19:16] Read the next step [19:16] please someone help me ;( [19:16] I read the next step [19:16] Calm down [19:17] and she ismkdir compat32 ; cd compat32 [19:17] :( [19:17] ne7work: in school, did they ever tell you to read the whole set of directions, then go through again and follow the directions? [19:18] ;( [19:18] freedos is better than it used to be but it is still less stable than ms-dos :( [19:18] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.225.208) joined ##slackware. [19:19] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:19] straterra, where i write this mkdir compat32 ; cd compat32 ? [19:19] ne7work: Please don't PM me. [19:19] In a terminal window [19:19] In which directory? [19:20] omfg...... RTFM [19:20] Any [19:20] straterra, what does a terminal window have to do with PM? [19:20] pi31415: It doesn't. [19:20] They are two seperate statements [19:20] nothing pi31415 he was saying to not pm him, and told him to write do the commnds in a terminal [19:21] In which directory should write it this mkdir compat32; cd compat32 [19:21] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:21] straterra: sorry, my mistake, I thought I saw "I'm in", but you typed "In" [19:21] ne7work: It doesn't matter [19:21] in ~alien/multilib/13.0 ? [19:22] Just do it in /root/ [19:22] okay [19:22] root@ne7work:~/connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.0/compat32# massconvert32.sh -i /home/ftp/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ [19:22] /usr/sbin/massconvert32.sh: line 70: cd: /home/ftp/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0: No such file or directory [19:22] Required package directories a,ap,d,l,n,x below '/root/connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.0/compat32/slackware' are not found! Aborting... [19:23] You need to actually READ the page, not just copy/paste commands [19:23] what are you trying to do? [19:23] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:23] seriously [19:24] i read [19:24] ;( [19:24] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [19:24] If you had read the page, you would know to not use /home/ftp/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ [19:24] Go back and reread it then [19:25] |Slacker| (~cris@187.47.178.232) joined ##slackware. [19:25] well? [19:25] Well what? [19:25] straterra, i hope someone runs the infinity ward guys over or whats left of them [19:26] i can't join a damn game without being killed by a cheater [19:26] jeev: PC or 360? [19:26] pc [19:26] i swear i wonder if there could be a class actino lawsuit [19:26] 360 doesn't seem nearly as bad in that regard [19:26] action [19:26] ohhh [19:26] :( [19:26] 360 version is a lot slower paced though [19:26] 90% of the games i play there's a cheater [19:26] i'm bg [19:28] and now where i mk this dir compat32 [19:28] ;( [19:28] Ok..now READ the whole paragraph for the next entry [19:29] ne7work: straterra has answered that question about 7 times already [19:29] stop asking the same question over and over [19:29] jeev: I hope I don't ever join a game with you, then. [19:30] what is this directory / home/ftp/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware / [19:30] Read the paragraph [19:30] It explains it [19:31] i want to try without dvd cd [19:31] I think I have such a directory ? [19:31] Then sync up with a mirror or something [19:32] i havent' [19:32] i haven't such a directory [19:32] ? [19:32] ne7work: perhaps you should read this: http://sweet.nodns4.us/ [19:32] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.0/slackware64-compat32/ [19:32] i have this with wget -rc [19:33] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!0@* expired. [19:33] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:34] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-94-120.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [19:35] please ;( [19:36] straterra, please tell me what i need to write :( [19:36] in terminal please ;( [19:37] ne7work: I'm not going to hold your hand. That article tells you everything that you need. [19:37] i'm bg [19:37] my english is not soo good [19:37] ;( [19:37] and i can't [19:37] you're bg? [19:37] i tryed [19:37] yes [19:38] i tryed 24 hours [19:38] ;( [19:38] ... and what does that mean, exactly? [19:38] bulgarian [19:38] yes [19:38] :( [19:38] sQuEE (~narya@201.252.49.68) joined ##slackware. [19:38] straterra, please [19:38] :( [19:38] ne7work: do not send me pm [19:39] ne7work: I'm not going to hold your hand. That article tells you everything that you need. [19:39] straterra, I can't translate all of this page [19:39] ;( [19:39] please tell me what i need to write in terminal [19:39] ;( [19:39] I'm not going to hand hold you, sorry. [19:39] ne7work: serach on google.bg for a bulgarian linux or slackaware forum [19:40] yea, you rarely have to actually be the first person to do something in slackware unless you're alienBOB [19:41] haha [19:41] what? [19:41] joke? [19:41] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [19:42] yes, but look for what you need [19:44] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] newslacker (~kc@75-121-100-111.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] ;( [19:45] i read [19:45] this and i understand [19:45] all.. [19:45] eh :( [19:45] please help me [19:45] :((( [19:45] you will understand eventually, but we can't help you understand any faster then you will on your own [19:46] massconvert32.sh -i ~ftp/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ this step is hard to me [19:46] ;( [19:46] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:46] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-193-190.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:47] root@ne7work:~/connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.0/slackware64-compat32/compat32# massconvert32.sh -i ~ftp/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ [19:47] /usr/sbin/massconvert32.sh: line 70: cd: /home/ftp/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0: No such file or directory [19:47] Required package directories a,ap,d,l,n,x below '/root/connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/13.0/slackware64-compat32/compat32/slackware' are not found! Aborting... [19:47] Stop pasting it [19:47] straterra, please tell me what i do? [19:47] ;( [19:48] You read the article. It tells you what to do [19:48] Don't blindly copy/paste [19:49] rtfm or gtfo simple as that [19:49] ne7work: are you sure you should be using slackware? [19:49] straterra, put yer foot downn [19:49] ne7work: perhaps an easier distro like ubuntu would be better for you. [19:49] burrn [19:51] ubuntu is sucks [19:52] ne7work: have you used ubuntu before? [19:52] its not so bad [19:52] yes [19:52] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-146-94-120.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:52] ubuntu is easy.. [19:53] i had several friends who repeatedly made failed attempts with earlier linux distributions, but succeeded with ubuntu [19:53] I want slackware ;( [19:54] i need help only with multilib [19:54] ;( [19:54] but no one helps [19:54] ;( [19:54] soon no one will respond [19:54] ne7work: you want slackware. Which means you need to learn how to solve things yourself, and work out things for yourself. [19:54] pi31415, why? [19:54] ne7work: dude, you're having this much trouble following a simple how to.. how can you expect help when something really goes wrong? [19:55] ne7work: because you are whining little git. [19:55] Does not anyone help me? [19:56] read the slackware book on the slackware website then read through your man pages and then read through the slackware wiki and if your still having problems with stuff put your logs or whatever that your having problems on and put it all in a pastebin page and post the link for help instead of filling the screen with stuff. [19:57] ne7work: no, no one wants to help you. go to ubuntu where I'm sure they'd love to help [19:57] darkdevil (~just@ns.ufop.br) joined ##slackware. [19:57] Nick change: darkdevil -> DarkDevil [19:58] blah ubuntu............. i hate that distro [19:59] I need multilib for run skype after i run skype i go to read ;( [19:59] me 2 [19:59] KaMii, [19:59] ubuntu is very sucks [19:59] har (~AndChat@c-24-7-230-136.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:00] please help me people please just this once you very much: ( [20:00] Nick change: DarkDevil -> darkdevil [20:00] Razec (1000@189-92-38-38.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:01] please [20:01] :( [20:01] ??????? [20:01] i really dislike beggers [20:02] please man [20:02] ;( [20:02] please help me only for this ;( [20:03] ne7work: why dont you just try to use skype via wine and forget about multilib? [20:03] 24 hours i please all people there [20:03] no one help me ;( [20:03] you please all the people here? [20:03] lolz [20:03] I want to let hlds cs 1.6 server [20:03] i never got pleased [20:04] I want to start CS 1.6 Server [20:04] .. [20:04] nVidia drivers.. [20:04] haha KaMii lol [20:04] begging is not asking for help, and this is not the Slackware-begging channel [20:05] since you are new to Slackware, why dont you just get the 32 bit version instead [20:05] forget about 64 [20:05] its too new for you [20:05] BP{k}: I don't think I'd want him to try to please me.. he'd probably get something lost inside :/ [20:05] i need this multilib :@ [20:05] i want 64-bit.. [20:05] ne7work: have you considered installing 32bits instead? [20:06] you are wanting to run 32 bit programs on 64 system [20:06] raela: pfft he problably be asking how to do it ;) [20:06] and you are new to linux [20:06] we are not going to configure your system for you [20:06] download wine [20:06] BP{k}: "halp how to get pants down" [20:06] i want this shirt http://shop.history.com/detail.php?p=262291&v=history_show_pawn-stars [20:06] then download the windoze version of skype [20:06] install skype with wine [20:06] raela: "I put on my robe and wizards hat" [20:06] use skype in wine [20:06] please help me :( [20:06] problem solved [20:07] KaMii: uhm ... [20:07] you really need multilib for wine. ;) [20:07] BP{k}: there's nothing more serious than a rhinocerus about to charge your ass [20:07] i don't know how to install 32-bit slackware [20:07] o_O !? [20:07] oh... thats right....... [20:07] raela: ...... [20:07] haha [20:07] umm, ok, just lose 64 and get 32 [20:07] i don't know how to install 32-bit slackware [20:07] ne7work: download the 32bit dvd.. [20:08] 64-bit is one DVD [20:08] same way you installed the 64 version [20:08] 32 is 6 CDS [20:08] or 1 dvd [20:08] you only need the first 4 [20:08] and you don't need all 6 [20:08] first 3 [20:08] last 3 are source [20:08] i have only one cd [20:08] ne7work: how the hell did you install 64bit slackware? [20:08] BP{k}: the rhino thing is from the same guy as the robe and wizard hat.. [20:08] or he can install a and n series [20:09] raela .. hehe .. ah fair enoguh. [20:09] then go online and get the rest [20:09] slackware 64 is so easy to install [20:09] so is 32 [20:09] i like 64-bit OS [20:09] apparently not [20:09] since you beg and complain alot [20:09] so difficult for you to help me put my multilib [20:09] ? [20:10] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-3-201.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] ne7work: no. [20:10] Emeau (~kvirc@AMontsouris-158-1-86-122.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net [20:10] ne7work: but you don't want to help yourself [20:10] by that I do not know English very well right?? [20:11] that help file that straterra showed you... very easily explains how to install multilib [20:11] i just now read it [20:11] a 5 year old can figure it out [20:11] just read it [20:11] do not cut paste the commands [20:11] ne7work: you're not even trying to read and use your brain.. go get 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu. you're not cut out for multilib [20:11] because they are not full commands [20:11] RTFM [20:12] UTFM [20:12] ATFM [20:12] P4C0_ (~paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) left irc: Quit: out [20:12] i read and i don't understand all [20:12] :@:@:@ [20:12] read slower [20:12] KaMii: pot calling kettle black here, you know.. [20:12] I want someone to help me [20:12] ne7work: that's not an adequate response. [20:13] ne7work: ask a smart question instead [20:13] with what part? [20:13] Come tell me what to write [20:13] ;( [20:13] ?;50A5 [20:13] Channel flood from ne7work -- kicking [20:13] please [20:13] ne7work kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [20:13] \o/ [20:13] ne7work (1000@78.83.153.108) joined ##slackware. [20:13] please ;( [20:13] Come tell me what to write [20:13] @o_ [20:14] ne7work: you're going to get banned soon.. go read the page again and think it through [20:14] how I help other people in Skype for any? [20:14] did you upgrade gcc and glibc? [20:14] ^5 [20:14] i read the page.. [20:14] and i don't understand [20:14] .. [20:14] this massconvert32.sh -i /home/ftp/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ [20:15] ne7work: I haven't seen a smart question from you yet [20:15] thumbs: better start a fresh pot of coffee, if you are waiting for that :) [20:15] BP{k}: ok. [20:15] what a smart question for you? [20:16] probably because you dont have a 32 bit slackware tree on your system [20:16] you NEED to have it on your system [20:16] like the manual says [20:16] ne7work: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html [20:16] its why massconvert is phaling [20:16] http://slash7.com/2006/12/22/vampires/ [20:17] raised blood will you help me in the morning you please? [20:17] ne7work: someone will help you once you ask a smart question, sure. [20:18] how they do not own good with English? [20:18] :@:@:@ [20:18] then go away [20:18] <09:0 B8 40 510 25 ?545@0A [20:18] i mean what do you want us to do? [20:19] i want you help me [20:19] PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE [20:19] MANNNNNN [20:19] and we did [20:19] !ops. [20:19] and insulting people in cyrilic is not going to help you [20:19] tell me [20:19] massconvert32.sh -i /home/ftp/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ [20:19] how to write this [20:19] i did already [20:19] we told you many times [20:19] and continue with install of multilab [20:19] you are refusing to listen [20:20] tell me now how [20:20] what i need to write in terminal [20:20] :@ [20:20] ;( [20:20] you need to have a slackware 32-bit version tree installed [20:20] ne7work: 1) Check what the error message is 2) think about what it means 3) think how you can make the command work correctly [20:20] where to have installed?? [20:21] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-3-201.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:21] that command assumes you have installed a 32 bit tree in /home/ftp/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware [20:21] Action: fhobia munches on some popcorn [20:21] if you did not, or installed it somewhere else then point it to the directory whree it exists [20:21] BP{k} i dislike that help vampire article [20:21] if it is not on your system yet, then download it [20:22] the help file is about as simple as it can get [20:22] we cannot make it any easier [20:22] people here are for helping when unexpected errors happen [20:22] then I should download slackware 13.0 32-bit [20:22] ? [20:22] and if you cannot understand engligh, then this is the wrong place for you [20:23] yes, you MUST HAVE slackware 13.0 32 bit directory tree on your computer somewhere [20:23] for the last time [20:23] BP{k} the article is true, but it is simple enough to put folks on ignore without making a big production out of "for the good of the project" and whatnot [20:24] I need to install it 32-bit for multilab or ? [20:25] no not install [20:25] it just needs to be available [20:25] it can be mounted [20:25] or just there [20:25] all 6 cds? [20:25] omfg [20:25] what? [20:25] read the page [20:25] it says which directores you need [20:26] and we said before not all 6 cds [20:26] you dont listen [20:26] where i need to make this dir compat32? [20:26] you obviously did not read it [20:26] before this step [20:26] blah [20:26] Action: KaMii sets ne7work on ignore [20:27] Razec (1000@189-92-38-38.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:27] Can I wget -rc http://mirrors.unixsol.org/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ ? [20:28] ne7work: you can use rsync [20:28] what is what rsync? [20:28] agent|Delahunt (~robert@fd127-184.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:29] what is what man? [20:29] :D [20:29] who's on first? [20:29] what is rsync? [20:29] man rsync [20:29] ? [20:30] nordle (~nordle@87.113.143.241) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:32] agent|wario, please [20:32] ;( [20:33] something like rsync -rav rsync://rsync.osuosl.org/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ /some/directory [20:34] what is it [20:34] rsync://rsync.osuosl.org/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ [20:34] ? [20:34] ne7work: read the manpage please. [20:34] man rsync [20:35] just ignore him, he never reads things [20:35] i read [20:35] ;( [20:38] P4C0 (~paco@unaffiliated/p4c0) joined ##slackware. [20:38] how to download it http://mirrors.unixsol.org/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/? [20:43] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-430888.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:46] Euthanatos (~chunk@in-67-236-193-190.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [20:46] john_dee (~id@93-81-70-157.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [20:47] Hey ne7work there is an os called windows. I believe it was made specifically for you. You should give it a try [20:47] lolz ^^ [20:47] newslacker, rofl rofl rofl [20:48] silence [20:48] newslacker, [20:50] what people were trying to tell you is that you need to learn the terminal before asking questions. Until you learn it you might as well use something like windows because your not going to get any help any other way. People dont have the time to tell you every single command to use every day in order to use your pc so either learn the os or give it up and switch to a different system. [20:51] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:51] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:52] i just need skype [20:52] i wonder if one were to count how many times ne7work said 'tell me please' in the last few days, would we hit triple digits? [20:52] ananke: easily. [20:52] i need to configure this multilib with #slackware channel help by you .. [20:52] and i go to read slackbook [20:52] and i learn all [20:52] and hes not been banned yet? [20:52] for slackware [20:52] that constitutes flooding [20:52] i can't without skype [20:53] and 32-bit applications [20:53] i need to host hlds server and i need to have skype [20:53] ne7work: enter key is not a punctuation mark [20:53] repeating, begging, and just about every other rule for this chanel [20:53] he has generated 80% of the traffic in the last 12 hours. [20:53] glad i have him on ignore [20:53] KaMii, is so happy ;} [20:54] about this ignore :D [20:54] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:54] ne7work: if you can't be bothered to read now, chances are you won't be bothered to read in the future. you could save yourself energy and use a distribution that's supported by skype's packages, or even use windows [20:54] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:55] there is no shame in it [20:55] i want to read and learn [20:55] but i need at the moment fast [20:55] 32 bit applications [20:55] ;( [20:55] no, you don't want to learn. You want spoon feeding now [20:55] ne7work: you've been asking for assistance with skype for a couple of days now. if you really needed it that fast, you would have installed windows or another distribution by now [20:56] I like the applesauce spoon fed, myself [20:56] haha [20:56] chocolate sauce ftw [20:57] i want skype on slackware [20:57] 20:54 < fajita> The boy's transmitter works, but his receiver is borked. [20:57] i want slackware i don't want any linux or windows i want this slackware64 [20:57] I thought this would be an appropriate quote. [20:59] i need just download http://mirrors.unixsol.org/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ help please ? [20:59] Action: thumbs hands ne7work a cookie. [21:00] i wnt meat on a stick from the fire. [21:00] SunTzu: sure. [21:00] ty [21:01] i need fire. [21:02] Action: thumbs sets ne7work on fire for SunTzu [21:02] i have papers to birn [21:02] no no no, no sacrifices [21:02] SunTzu: in this case, it's not. [21:02] oh [21:02] ananke: the sad part is i told him the exact command to run [21:02] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:03] agent|wario: then the quote from thumbs really applies :) [21:03] WildWizard (michael@ppp118-208-131-215.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) left ##slackware. [21:03] apparently ^^ [21:04] maybe his monitor is broken and it always goes out when we tell him what commands to issue [21:04] pi31415 (~ben@c-98-232-209-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: peace [21:04] haha [21:05] its called the idi0t-bug [21:05] or something [21:05] thanks all [21:05] ;) [21:05] who's banning you? [21:05] keiichidono: we all told him what to do [21:05] o [21:05] hes been asking for days [21:05] keiichidono, me too [21:05] and I talk for him [21:06] keiichidono: what would the proper answer be then ? [21:06] keiichidono: denied a proper answer? What are you talking about? [21:06] thumbs questions ignored [21:06] thumbs is inverting his plaints [21:06] heh [21:07] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-3-201.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] keiichidono: he took bob's howto, and copy pasted the lines, blindly. [21:07] Wiren (~aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [21:07] Nick change: hitest -> agent|hitest [21:08] keiichidono: I am appaled at the fact that you're defending his behaviour. [21:08] wow cspan is replaying the brit debate from last thursday [21:09] Brown apparently rejects the scandal from esat anglia [21:09] east [21:09] i download this torrent Slackware 13.0 x86 DVD ISO (everything) [21:09] Nick change: agent|hitest -> hitest [21:10] keiichidono: maybe you should scroll up [21:10] oopsie [21:10] I told him about 10 times how to do something [21:10] Nick change: hitest -> agent|hitest [21:10] hi test [21:10] straterra, now i download the torrent Slackware 13.0 x86 DVD ISO (everything) [21:10] keiichidono: we did tell him nicely many times, we tried [21:10] he just begged [21:10] and didnt bother to listen [21:11] time for me is 04:00 [21:12] ne7work: catch some sleep, then. [21:12] keiichidono: apart from that some people get annoying after going on, for hours and hours, without showing any sign of learning and understanding. [21:12] Nick change: agentNaCl -> agent|NaCl [21:13] now i download slackware 13.0 iso torrent [21:14] after i download i can continue with massconvert32.sh -i /home/ftp/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ [21:14] ? [21:14] Nick change: agent|hitest -> agenthitest [21:14] i like salt [21:14] lolz [21:15] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:16] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-201-107.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [21:16] rapid (~rapid@c211-28-201-107.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Changing host [21:16] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [21:16] Nick change: agenthitest -> hitest [21:16] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:16] and i told him to do that about 10 times [21:17] I wonder if the command is supposed to have ".t?z" as an extension for the package. [21:17] i specifically said he needed those packages availale [21:17] its probably not suppose to have a wildcard in it [21:17] idk [21:17] yes, .t?z is the intended command [21:17] because that would get tgz and txz, both valid package formats [21:18] >after i download i can continue with massconvert32.sh -i /home/ftp/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/slackware/ That appears to be the correct action to take. [21:19] assuming those packages exist in that same directory tree on his system [21:19] The wiki page is easy enough to understand, but new users run into trouble easily. [21:19] thats why i said to read it slower [21:19] its something new [21:20] you cant just expect to know it by reading one time through [21:21] I download now torrent file of slackware 13.0 iso from slackware.org [21:21] and when i have 32-bit slackware [21:21] i can to continue [21:21] and i can to have multilib [21:24] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [21:24] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Client Quit [21:24] Ivshti (~ivo@77.76.50.154) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:24] can you just get by with the a packages to get a minimal install or do you need ap as well ? [21:24] i just need to bootstrap enough [21:25] another wacky question...can i put the packages on an ntfs partition and have slackware install them o_o [21:26] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-110-3-201.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:27] fhobia: should be doable, provided you mount the partition prior to installing slackware. [21:28] danklesman (~dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] haha you know there was an option to install from an ftp server [21:30] fhobia: of course. [21:30] couldn't i just plug in like ftp://slackware.osuosl.org/... [21:30] ? [21:30] fhobia: did you try it? [21:30] i am going to now [21:30] fhobia: better make sure your DNS subsystem works first. [21:31] piece of cake :3 [21:31] WildWizard (~michael@ppp118-208-131-215.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [21:33] fhobia: and your networking, too. [21:34] ne7work what is your native language? [21:37] this time i want to install grub too...too much pain with lilo to coorperate with windows boot loader [21:38] fhobia: you surely can. [21:38] trying to preserve all this fancy asus expressgate partitions and stuff :-P [21:40] lilo always worked good for me with windoze duel boot [21:41] and yes, I've used windows to boot windows many many times without problem. [21:41] err, lilo, too. [21:41] whenever i added a new kernel though i had to copy the 512 bytes into a file and then boot into windows and copy it into c: [21:41] you used windows to boot windows? lol [21:41] KaMii: I had a mind fart. [21:41] its ok i have those all the time [21:41] use emacs to boot windows [21:41] haha [21:42] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [21:42] goj (~goj@p4FE6E87B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:43] gonzalo_ (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [21:45] nice [21:46] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:49] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:50] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:58] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [21:59] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:02] where is the correct place to load a module? rc.module? [22:02] rc.modules-`uname -r` [22:03] dive: what is /etc/modprobe.d/ for' [22:03] ? [22:03] module options and blacklisting [22:03] whats a good way to stop a memory hog and memory leak? [22:03] such as firefox, nautilus etc [22:03] coolkehon, moan at the devs or find something lighter [22:03] I would like a way to limit how much memory each program uses [22:04] what, linux doesnt have a command for this [22:04] no idea [22:04] coolkehon: set ulimit before you run them. that will result in your app being killed when it reaches that memory limit [22:04] coolkehon: and show me any other os that has a magical command for fixing memory leaks [22:04] ok [22:04] thanks dive [22:04] np [22:05] its not the memory leak i'm worried about its the fact that it stops responding when it uses all memory and all swap [22:05] slows down to a halt (could be the encrypted swap) [22:05] you're thrashing. and yes, encrypted swap only adds to the problem [22:05] well a prog will do that if it uses all the mem and swap [22:05] The-spiki (~spiki@95.180.73.112) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:06] encrypted swap [22:06] ' [22:06] which version firefox? [22:06] ? [22:06] i sometimes use a lot of tabs and forget to close some youtube links [22:06] i'd rather firefox just crash it self than freeze the computer [22:07] or get kille [22:07] *killed [22:07] P4C0, you can encrypt partitions including the swap partition [22:07] coolkehon: so use ulimit before you start it [22:07] dive: I didn't know that :) [22:07] januxfri (~AndChat@201-213-37-59.net.prima.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [22:09] sQuEE (~narya@201.252.49.68) left irc: Quit: fnord!! [22:09] anyone using imageshack ever notice a "http:/" in their home directory? [22:10] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [22:12] paul424 (1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115133306] [22:12] thanks ananke [22:12] januxfri (~AndChat@201-213-37-59.net.prima.net.ar) left irc: Quit: Bye [22:16] frank (~deepdaemo@190.231.102.143) joined ##slackware. [22:17] thumbs, I made it! :D [22:17] how to unrar? [22:18] ne7work: google. [22:18] in ubuntu it is apt-get install unrar [22:18] ne7work: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=unrar+linux [22:18] ? [22:19] so go back to ubuntu [22:19] hahaha [22:19] hahaha :D [22:19] ne7work, unrar x file.rar [22:19] wtf [22:20] ? [22:20] ? [22:20] . [22:20] well, echelon, now he will ask how to run that, where to run that, where and how to install rar, etc,etc. [22:20] good luck :P [22:21] ah. [22:21] oh well [22:21] arj x it.arj [22:21] unrar command not find [22:21] Khratos++ [22:22] he!, there u have [22:22] alreadygone (~silas@119.154.126.32) joined ##slackware. [22:22] haha [22:22] \o [22:22] echelon: you fell right into his trap.. [22:22] ne7work, http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/rar/ [22:22] oh my... [22:23] tar xf [22:23] tnx [22:23] man [22:23] :) [22:23] :) [22:23] frank: umm? [22:23] ne7work: press.the.enter.key.less.often. [22:24] echelon, it is only rar? [22:24] wait, there's a rar SBo and an unrar SBo [22:24] yeah, just noticed [22:24] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/unrar/ [22:24] how to unrar :X [22:25] ne7work: wrong question. [22:25] ^ [22:25] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: No route to host [22:25] please tell me :( [22:25] haha, this is getting funnier with each line [22:25] ne7work: ask the right question, then. [22:25] Khratos: it's been going on all day [22:25] ne7work: We don't spoon feed here [22:26] How to unrar file of type rar? [22:26] ne7work: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=unrar+linux [22:26] this has got to be a record [22:26] i already told you above [22:26] man its like the special olympics in here [22:26] the force is strong with this one :3 [22:27] fhobia: s/strong/nonexistent/ [22:27] pthreat (~pthreat@190.190.190.112) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:27] he's got endurance though [22:27] thats something :3 [22:27] dunix (~dunix@unaffiliated/dunix) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:27] he's going the distance [22:28] he's more annoying than anything. [22:28] he's going for speed [22:28] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [22:28] speed over content, yes. [22:29] go easy on him, we were all new at one time :) [22:29] echelon: you didn't have to endure his bantering for days, apparently. [22:30] what are you, strapped to the keyboard or something? [22:30] oh.. [22:30] meals (~RahmboDea@70.44.72.133.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] hi [22:31] iptables Q: How can I firewall/block, packets based on the value of particular fields in the headers? [22:32] just like how you can filter for them in tcpdump. i.e. tcpdump port 80 and 'tcp[13] & 12 != 0; [22:32] you see, now that is a question :P [22:33] gonzalo_ (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:36] thumbs, I finally made the dual boot works :D, if you want to see my lilo.conf to know the solution, just let me know. I'm so happy :D [22:36] :-] [22:38] frank: sure! [22:49] thumbs, Here it is http://pastebin.com/SZJM4LV4 [22:49] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:50] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [22:50] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [22:52] ne7work maybe you shouldn't use slackware [22:52] he hasn't said anything for a while [22:53] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:54] are you guys still talking to him? [22:54] im beginning to think he is just trolling [22:55] _juan (500@200.93.7.226) joined ##slackware. [22:55] ut oh [22:55] There's a good chance of that. How can someone install slackware (although it is easy, if you read) and not being able to install 'rar' :/ [22:55] trollage? [22:55] frank (~deepdaemo@190.231.102.143) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:56] KaMii, unless you are sure, what is the point of saying such a thing? [22:56] he has been on here for 2 days asking the same thing [22:56] and he has not made any progress [22:56] he has to be a troll [22:56] What is the question he asks? I came in late. [22:57] hmm, I did not know that [22:57] i put him on ignore a long time ago [22:58] so i can care less about him, just warning you guys, dont let him flood the room with his begging he only wastes your time [22:59] <_juan> i just installed slackware 13 on a netbook, i need to configure the wireless card, i downloaded the driver from viaarena, vt6655 driver, compiled it. when i modeprobe viawget (name of module) it says Error inserting viawget (/lib/modukes/2.6.29.6/kernel/drivers/net/viawget.ko): Invalid module format. How do i fix this? [23:01] all alone in the time of need [23:02] _juan, did you check depmod? [23:03] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:03] _juan: Do you have a custom kernel running? [23:03] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [23:04] keiichidono (~johnsmith@24-145-68-042-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) left irc: [23:05] <_juan> slackware kernel, didnt check depmod [23:08] When I finally have some time I am going to change my arch partition to a slackware one on my desktop [23:08] initself (~initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:09] hitest (~George@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] frank (~deepdaemo@200.117.102.161) joined ##slackware. [23:10] so just tried installing fglrx with slackware-current on 2.6.33.2, ran aticonfig, got something like 'No compatable devices' [23:10] <_juan> echelon what am i exactly looking for? [23:10] |Slacker| (~cris@187.47.178.232) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:10] glxinfo just segfaulted [23:11] so I uninstalled, tried using the radeon driver, but now I'm getting : error loading shared libraries: libatiuki.so.1: no such file [23:11] startx works, but trying to open a terminal or anything gives that error [23:12] I feel like an idiot. I can't find the source/slackbuild for slackware64-13.0/extra/mplayerplug-in/ [23:12] can anyone point me along? I'm rebuilding mplayer from a snapshot, and so want/need to rebuild this [23:13] mplayer's gl output has a bug uncovered by nvidia 195.x drivers, so recent snapshot needed. [23:13] ViN86 (ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-THREE-THIRTEEN.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [23:14] check /extra/source/mplayerplug-in [23:15] doh! i did NOT see /extra/source [23:15] thanks bigpaws [23:15] toast10101 (~toast1010@ip70-179-143-133.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:15] toast10111 (~toast1010@ip70-179-143-133.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:15] CelestialWurm (~celestial@24.115.209.159) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:15] ok, well reinstalling libdrm, mesa and xf86-video-ati worked [23:15] Nick change: toast10111 -> toast10101 [23:16] but dri is still borked with mesa, where it wasn't before [23:18] ViN86 (ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-THREE-THIRTEEN.MIT.EDU) left irc: Client Quit [23:20] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:20] jeez only my 30th trial on this slackbuild lol. DOCS/HTML-single was removed/replaced by DOCS/HTML [23:23] _juan (500@200.93.7.226) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:24] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [23:27] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [23:28] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Client Quit [23:28] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [23:28] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [23:28] hi there [23:28] seomeone can read me? [23:29] nope, try reconnecting [23:29] :3 [23:29] !topic [23:33] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:33] argh, never should have messed with fglrx [23:33] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:34] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [23:34] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:34] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:35] yeah, i just use software rendering and cry myself to sleep [23:35] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [23:35] sQuEE (~narya@201.252.49.68) joined ##slackware. [23:35] well, i don't cry that much now that i think the open driver has some acceleration [23:35] :3 [23:35] OK. So I've commented the slackbuild and slack-desc. Should I just keep this stuff to myself (assuming it builds) or would someone be interested in this? [23:35] radeon direct rendering WAS working [23:36] (rebuild of MPlayer for mplayer-checkout-2010-04-25.tar.bz2) [23:36] now that is borked too [23:36] mtkoan: :( [23:36] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [23:37] draeath: Can you use that version of mplayer to navigate between titles without crashing? [23:37] on a DVD I mean. [23:37] dammit, wheres adamk when you need him [23:37] antiwire: Don't know, and I don't have any multi-title DVDs to test [23:38] k [23:38] but I do know that the version in 13.0 blows up in -vo gl [23:38] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [23:38] (exposed by nvidia 195.x drivers) [23:38] and the mplayer people said to use a recent snapshot :) [23:38] antiwire: I can get you the modified slackbuild and slack-desc if you care to try it/ [23:39] just use vlc for dvd [23:39] or patch files vs the 13.0 ones [23:39] draeath: I'll just pull the rev. [23:39] its what i use, works fine no problems [23:39] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-46-224.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [23:39] Thanks though [23:39] menus work everything [23:39] KaMii: vlc doesn't come with slack :P [23:39] so build it [23:39] also lots of other things I use mplayer for, might as well use mplayer with that too [23:39] heck i play music with mplayer [23:39] i didnt like mplayer [23:39] I didn't at first. Then I read the docs and built up a config file [23:40] for me, its quicker and easier to just run mplayer. Seems to run as good or better, and look nicer [23:40] but each to his own :) [23:40] i didnt notice any difference in how it rendered vidoe [23:40] video [23:41] well i have specific postprocessing and gl rendering stuff [23:41] vf=pp=hb:a/vb:a/dr:a/al:a [23:41] why? [23:41] vo=gl:yuv=4:rectangle=2:lscale=1:cscale=1 [23:41] for what purpose? [23:41] Why not? It smooths out what artifacts are left over. I don't have a lot of HD content. [23:41] oh, most my stuff is hd [23:42] also I seem to have more deinterlace options available too, which are handy for DVD [23:42] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-71-215-155.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:42] i dont bother with adding extra commands and stuff i just play the file in vlc, it works im happy, :D [23:42] oh yea for HD, what you get is what you want. Other things... need help [23:42] But I also enjoy mencoder too. [23:43] and all my music is with spotify now [23:43] spotiwhatsit? [23:44] the best thing ever! [23:44] but only works in select european countries [23:44] due to some dumb recording laws [23:44] Would it work for me? I have an organized directory full of FLAC, OGG, and the occasional MP3 [23:44] basically, every song ever recorded you can listen to for free, at any time [23:44] its like iTunes but none of the songs are on your computer [23:45] and the quality is really good [23:45] hitest (~George@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:45] if your in the USA though, u cant use it [23:45] you can even use it on your cellphone [23:46] USA [23:46] so you never need to worry about wasting your HD space on music anymore [23:46] and you dont need to worry about downloading or buying music [23:46] So there is that. And I like lossless... and I like to have it local. [23:46] because its free and legal [23:46] so no, nope, and no. Not for me :P [23:46] echelon (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) joined ##slackware. [23:46] why have it local if you can have it the same for free? [23:47] Because my bandwidth isn't always good, and won't necessarily be around always [23:47] oh :( [23:47] then ya, not good for ya [23:47] Anything I download I keep a copy of if I can help it (and it isn't a one-time use deal) [23:47] old habits / mindset [23:47] u need beter internet [23:48] Nah it's fine. Breaks 900kB/s sometimes [23:48] i would cry if mine was that slow [23:48] I just grew up with 33.6kbps dialup. Ingraned behavior. Plus, I'm a bit of a "keep that" guy [23:49] i prefer my fiber optics [23:49] draeath: They have pills for that ;) [23:49] haha [23:49] asdfg (~asdfg@200.106.77.98) joined ##slackware. [23:50] ViN86 (ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-THREE-THIRTEEN.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [23:50] antiwire: lol, not excessively. If it has no point or sentimental value, it goes generall [23:50] *generally [23:50] But anyways. My point is I'm not comfortable with stuff being kept where I can't get at it physically. [23:50] why limit yourslef when we have better technology now? [23:50] but with spotify, its not yours [23:50] you just call for it [23:51] you dont own it, thats why its legal [23:51] sudobash (~lklsls@c-68-53-193-132.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:51] Ah. I don't like that. [23:51] i dont know how they made it legal in Europe [23:51] but it means i dont have to buy music [23:51] I'm an "artist" myself and that free on-demand rubs me completely the wrong way [23:51] cuz i can listen to it for free from my phone, or computer [23:51] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) left irc: Read error: Connection timed out [23:52] they get paied for it everytime someone listens to one of thier songs [23:52] acidtripper (~gonzalo@190.188.108.189) joined ##slackware. [23:52] Oh, well in that case. See, you didn't say that :P [23:52] how else would it be legal? [23:53] the record companies always want money [23:53] there are advertisements with spotify, but not many at all, its much better than radio, [23:53] and if you dont want to hear them you pay them $10 a month and no commercials [23:54] and i have not seen any memory leaks or cpu hogging from spotify [23:54] Well if it ever comes to the US I'll check it out. Thanks [23:55] dont see that ever happening [23:55] you are so sure KaMii [23:55] but the USA stopped europe from using pandora [23:55] so europe made spotify [23:55] haha [23:56] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:56] unless the USA gets a pirateparty, i dont see it happening [23:57] Gulug (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:57] Gulug (old-times@134-100-73-76.ipv4.gulug.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:57] hi [23:57] im having some problems with slackware [23:57] karuna (~karuna@202.138.250.81) joined ##slackware. [23:58] i have just upgraded and mouse, keyboard doesn't work [23:58] in fact spotify uses less resources than songbird [23:58] i reinstalled xf86 drivers [23:58] and hal as i know is running [23:58] acidtripper, upgraded it from what version to what? [23:59] alkos333 (~alkos333@173-108-46-224.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [23:59] antiwire: sure you don't want that stuff? I've got the tarball of the files uploading now [23:59] to current [23:59] i use slack64 current [23:59] draeath: Nah, but thanks. I have an svn repo for mplayer and my own build script [23:59] im under a traffic analizer and i think it's blocking port 6667 [00:00] --- Mon Apr 26 2010