[00:00] Glim (n=sven@p50862AD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:00] BP{k}, the manuals seem to be instructing to back-up /etc, shall I backup much else, or would just that suffice? [00:00] hmm. You can almost get anything you want. [00:00] maduser (n=kevin@71.167.185.156) left irc: "Leaving" [00:00] im not endorsing pirating software or anything because you guys are probably programmers so ill leave it alone [00:01] guys [00:01] I'm trying to remember the name of a WM... [00:01] it was a clone of the windows environment. [00:01] Tab [00:01] had a W in the name... [00:01] Tabwm [00:01] I wonder how a news server and put windowsVista Professional with the crack on the server and get away with it. [00:01] Ficthe: I would back up /etc for sure, make sure you have backups of /home, you might wnat ot backup /home [00:01] ang (n=ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: "Client exiting" [00:02] nah tat's not it. [00:02] This one was paticularly aimed at looking like windows. [00:02] had a start button and everything [00:03] BP{k}, alright, I'll do that as well. I think I'll do it tomorrow evening, wish me luck. [00:03] Ficthe: bad idea personally ;) [00:03] Ficthe: I stay away from my root account on christmas ;) [00:03] Gargantua: The only one I know like that is XPDE [00:03] Gargantua: You can always look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_window_manager [00:03] BP{k}, luckily I'm under 18 [00:04] s/18/21 [00:04] later thanks for the advice [00:04] BP{k}, close, but nah. [00:04] pgate (n=john@24.32.64.234) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [00:04] Thanks a lot guys. [00:04] I'll try to find it [00:04] Qvwm [00:06] lando (n=lando@c-75-74-143-33.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] Gargantua: I think fvwm had a "window" look-alike theme as one of the defaults [00:06] Ficthe: ah fair enough :) [00:07] I think this was an entire "desktop environment" [00:07] lando__ (n=lando@c-75-74-143-33.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [00:07] It was more "Classic Windows theme" than XP theme. [00:07] Even had a quick launch. [00:08] hmm [00:10] The closest thing I can think of is fvwm95. It has a quick launch, but it's not a whole "desktop environment". [00:12] Hmm [00:12] That looks really nicee [00:12] Thanks for your efforts. [00:12] I think that'll do [00:12] np [00:20] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [00:22] merry christmas :) [00:22] Damn it [00:22] I was just about to say the same thing [00:22] Seriously. [00:23] haha, it's not like only one person can say it per channel [00:24] http://www.sdtimes.com/content/article.aspx?ArticleID=33132&print=true [00:24] lol [00:24] that guy looks gangsta [00:24] Action: BP{k} looks forward to christmas dinner tomororw \o/ [00:24] http://www.sdtimes.com/images/sdt-ramji-ramji_02.jpg [00:26] he looks kind of drunk [00:26] or stoned ;) [00:27] or both [00:27] eelriver (n=eelriver@h-67-102-106-32.snfccasy.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [00:29] habaneros: probably most likely ;) [00:30] k4i (n=kyur4thi@217.117.75.2) joined ##slackware. [00:30] i vote on stoned [00:31] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060019d1f79250.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:32] well, either way he was not sober ;) [00:33] vinnie_ (n=vinnie@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "Leaving" [00:34] Action: BP{k} looks where santa is, and asks norad.;) [00:37] BP{k}, they put him over Birmingham AL -> http://www.noradsanta.org/ [00:37] edman007: is that where you ~ is? [00:37] no, i'm in CT [00:37] but DBAmethyst is over there [00:38] gotcha. :) [00:38] DBAmethyst, do you see santa? [00:38] vinnie_ (n=vinnie__@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [00:39] man, they used Google maps. Nice. [00:39] what group do i need to add my user to to be able to plug in a usb stick without getting the huge access error? [00:40] plugdev? [00:41] ill try that [00:41] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-158-110.epm.net.co) left irc: "Leaving" [00:41] vinnie_: see the CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT :) [00:41] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.23.160) joined ##slackware. [00:41] ? [00:41] wheres that? [00:41] I just saw santa... [00:41] and now he's in san antonio [00:42] ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2/CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT [00:42] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:42] vinnie_: ^^ basically on any mirror, or on your install media [00:42] ok [00:44] anyone know the smartest way to use lvm to back up my /home ? [00:44] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:44] (assuming local hard drive is lvm2 "myvg" and external 500gb usb drive is sda1 NTFS and sda2 as lvm2 "mydata") [00:44] (brb [00:44] ) [00:44] TwinReverb, rsync? [00:45] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:47] vinnie_ (n=vinnie__@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "Leaving" [00:51] gm154 (n=gm@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:51] well i was just wondering if a mirror lv would be best (but still i don't know if a removable device would fare well doing that) [00:54] it would probably slow it down, depending on your needs you could do rsync on a cronjob or something else thats a bit more real time (mdadm?) [00:54] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [00:55] mako-don1 (n=mako@81.22.24.45) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:56] habaneros (n=ro0tSlin@pool-71-122-146-120.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Merry Christmas everyone!"). [00:57] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:00] What a live CD distro would you guys recommend? I need to load it to examine the hard drive on this one laptop [01:01] knoppix, backtrack [01:01] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:01] Conflict_80 (i=500@128-209.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:02] Anyone know what I should DL if i want to put up a small irc server of my own? [01:02] a clue [01:02] useless, next [01:02] Conflict_80: an irc server [01:02] Conflict_80, start with an OS... [01:03] yes, i figured that much out, was asking if anyone had a suggestion for a server prog [01:03] but hey, thanks for trying to be witty :) [01:05] foldingstock: Thank you! [01:08] edman007, say i slapped a "home" LV on "mydata" (i.e. external hard drive) VG as a mirror of myvg/home ... if i inserted the usb external hard drive would it cause a surge in cpu and hard drive activity (i.e. sync itself when first plugged in)? [01:11] Conflict_80: ircd-hybrid, ircd-ratbox, irc, ircu, bahamut, UnrealIRCd, Inspircd... google has your answer [01:12] or freshmeat, look for ircd [01:12] we're running the Undernet ircd here [01:13] TwinReverb, i'm not sure how lvm would react with that type of stuff... [01:13] r0nin (i=ryan@host-67-32-226-102.tys.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] edman007, well maybe (since the external USB is now an LVM on sda2) i'll play around with it and experiment tonight with which takes less time [01:14] rob0: i thought hyperion was hybrid based. [01:14] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-95.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:15] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-66-95.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:15] I assume the first slackware cd is only needed for a base install right? [01:15] rob0: from freenode.net site: freenode's legacy ircd, hyperion, is a continuation of the earlier dancer-ircd, itself a fork of hybrid 6 [01:15] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:15] Guest88677 (n=root@88.241.129.161) joined ##slackware. [01:16] r0nin: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php [01:16] Guest88677 (n=root@88.241.129.161) left irc: Client Quit [01:16] What about an acidic install? [01:17] vinnie_ (n=vinnie__@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [01:18] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.129.161) joined ##slackware. [01:20] there is a problem with the "gutenprint" package when installing Slackware 12.2... it will stuck there for about 10 minutes [01:20] maybe this http://ngircd.barton.de/ no personal experience using it [01:21] AnOnion (n=pocketir@pppoe1-157.argontech.net) joined ##slackware. [01:21] dios_mio: not a problem for everyone, maybe for you though [01:21] AnOnion (n=pocketir@pppoe1-157.argontech.net) left ##slackware. [01:21] dios_mio, did you try running strace on it to see why? [01:21] nullboy: I burned the slack iso again to see if my cd was corrupt.. I also checked my harddisk for bad sectors [01:21] TwinReverb: no [01:21] dios_mio: did you check the disk using the provided md5s? [01:22] no [01:22] and also the packages with the package md5s [01:22] what does the "A/AP/D/E/L/N" mean? [01:22] r0nin: those are the package sets [01:22] r0nin: base system, application, development tools, emacs, libraries, network [01:23] rob0, r0b, a/ is required, ap/ is applications (non-X), d/ is [01:23] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:23] thats what I just installed except Emacs [01:23] er http://www.slackbook.org/html/installation-requirements.html [01:23] oh ok, thanks [01:23] NetrixTardis: I suspect rob0 was talking about cardinal when he said "here" -- and we actually run ircu2 :) [01:24] ah [01:24] didn't know cardinal had one running [01:24] I had to tick out gutenprint in the expert menu and then I had no problems [01:24] It's only open to localhost though :) [01:24] ahhh [01:25] i was going to set one up on shad0w, but then i couldn't think of any reason to run one lol [01:25] k = kernel source, kde = self-explanatory, kdei = kde internationalization (i.e. languages other than english), T = TeX, document formatting system TCL = tool command language, X = graphical system, XAP = graphical applications, Y = BSD console games (to include fortune, i.e. login fortunes mainly) [01:25] i use to run an ircd back in the day [01:26] NetrixTardis: only good reason would be multiple users who need/want to talk in a "public" private area :) [01:26] that's what jabber is for [01:26] I just used SBo to install digikam and its deps, but it isn't listed in the Graphics menu, and when I run digikam from Konsole, it says command not found. I don't have to restart or anything for it to show up do I? [01:26] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:26] since we're on the topic...why the hell doesn't freenode support ssl yet? [01:26] NetrixTardis: maybe, but irc is familiar :) [01:27] firebird619:does digikam show up in /var/log/packages/ ? [01:27] nullboy: I am googling the gutenprint install on slackware and other people are reporting the same problem.. [01:27] rworkman: that is true, but with jabber you have the IM + conference rooms, which are irc channels in a way [01:27] rworkman: Yes. [01:27] dios_mio: i haven't had any issues with it [01:27] well i admire that jabber is encrypted and usually more secure than yahoo/msn [01:28] TwinReverb: with pidgin-otr, you can have that level of security through the public mediums such as AIM/ICQ/Yahoo/MSN [01:28] firebird619: I don't use digikam, and am not really familiar with it, but do "less /var/log/packages/digikam*" and see what it installs to /usr/bin -- then try to run that. [01:29] nullboy: slackware-current changelog says gutenprint had the old path to PPD files, fixed,,, maybe that's what it was [01:29] NetrixTardis, what level of security is that? are you referring to the encryption plugin for pidgin ? [01:29] What's the problem iwth gp? [01:30] http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ [01:30] NetrixTardis: someone ported gaim/pidgin otr plugin to kopete iirc,not sure on details [01:30] TwinReverb: i forgot about pidgin-Encryption [01:30] rworkman: when installing slackware that package gets stucked for about 10-15 minutes [01:31] Action: NetrixTardis needs sleep [01:31] rworkman: It doesn't show any /usr/bin. Here is the output I do get: http://slackware.pastebin.com/m66e4455b [01:31] dios_mio: that's normal on some hardware. It's generating ppd files. NOTABUG. [01:31] evilfourzero (n=evil@71-90-131-107.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:32] if i *really* need to talk to someone and want it secure, we exchange some rather large encryption keys and email, or even better, we ssh into each other's box and use a local chat program (one in the *talk family) or even just tail -f a file and start typing away [01:32] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:32] NetrixTardis: g'night then :) [01:32] i think the goal they were suggesting is that local chat be encrypted and secured outside of any external network, but then having IM to chat outside of the network [01:32] A Merry Christmas to all and too all a good night or smthin [01:32] jabber might work for that but i have no experience with it. still, i think you can run your own jabber server, so it could probably be configured to do both i guess [01:32] infernal_jesus (n=igor@unaffiliated/infernaljesus/x-763248) joined ##slackware. [01:33] firebird619: somehow your digikam package isn't complete. That should not be possible, but it seemingly is. [01:33] rworkman: Ok, I will try installing it again. Thank you. [01:34] firebird619: won't help. [01:34] It didn't build properly. [01:34] http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Jabber/jabberd.html [01:34] rworkman: Ok, I will rebuild it. I just wanted to resize some photos to e-mail. Is there another program that does a good job for batch resizing? [01:34] Damn, bad timing. I don't have time to look at it in the repo and at least give the user some warning if it didn't build correctly. That script should have a "set -e" in it. [01:35] firebird619: batch resizing? The imagemagick suite can do that just fine from command line. [01:35] looks like someone has already thought of this, NetrixTardis ^ [01:36] firebird619: re rebuilding, unless you have corrected whatever the reason for the bad first build, you'll have *another* bad build :) Probably a missing dependency, but no way to say for sure [01:36] which is actually very @#$ pimp because then i could run my own jabber client or two and get real specific on how they work [01:36] i.e. local jabber for high-bit encrypted talk on LAN [01:36] and then all other connections through external jabber [01:36] firebird619: anyway see the "convert" program for what you want. [01:37] rworkman: I will check that out. Thanks. Also, I just noticed, the digikam issue was a missing dep of libkdcraw. [01:37] That would do it. [01:38] When you rebuild it now, how about run the the build script like this: bash -e digikam.SlackBuild [01:38] rworkman: Ok. [01:39] and let me know if that errors out. If not, please be sure to hilight me (say my name, bitch) so that I can add the "set -e" to the script in the repo [01:39] * American Pie reference, in case you missed it :) [01:39] rworkman, i was noticing that some slackbuild scripts won't work inside a clean build chroot environment. usually it's complaints about /dev. when i chroot do you think i would mount -a or is there a better solution ? [01:40] I've never had one fail. What specifically are the complaints? [01:40] how do I get mkfs.vfat? what provides it? [01:40] briareus: mkdosfs [01:40] ROKO__-[afk] (n=RoKo__@x4x0r.gentoobsd.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:40] thanks [01:41] USB only thing that needs fat? [01:41] flash mp3 players* [01:41] crap [01:42] I formatted this flash drive and now I can't seem to get mkdosfs or anything else onto it [01:42] hmmm [01:42] ok the -I option perhaps [01:43] rworkman, usually that /dev/null isn't accessible and then it makes some smart-@$$ remark like "i need a modern shell" [01:47] TwinReverb: sounds like your chroot is bad. [01:47] You're not trying to do it inside a readonly chroot environment, are you? [01:47] rworkman, no [01:48] Merry Mithras [01:49] in fact, what i did initially was literally install slackware 12.2 brand new and then do a direct "perfect" rsync copy to an external USB hard drive (i made sure to tell it that i want the copy to be exact, i.e. honor symlinks by copying them over, create dev nodes, the whole 9 yards) [01:49] the whole 9 yards [01:49] bullet talk [01:50] but that didn't work so i literally (because i wanted to help the community) reinstalled slackware 12.2 with EVERYTHING, just to have a "perfect" chroot, no root password, then compiled all the stuff i compile (kmymoney2, mplayer, lame, freeciv, bibletime) using SBo scripts, made the packages, then went back and started configuring [01:51] before i did that (i.e. 2nd statement) i even made an identical .iso of root (with all options required to force it to break conventions) and when i tried copying the .iso stuff (when mounted loop) to a new directory so that it could be truly read-write, and chrooted to it, it still didn't let me compile [01:51] so just short of dd, i did everything i could to try and make a perfect clean build location and i still couldn't get it to work properly [01:51] and no offense but i do NOT want to even consider using a VM to do a clean build [01:52] wait, i know lol why didn't i think about this before ... i'll just go and install slackware 12.2 to a LV on my USB external hard drive (just short of LILO obviously because i don't want to boot it) and then try it again [01:53] I usually install a chroot like this: ROOT=/chroot installpkg /pathto/slackware/a/*.tgz ; mount --bind /pathto/slackware /chroot/mnt/tmp ; chroot /chroot /bin/bash -l ; cd /mnt/tmp ; upgradepkg --install-new */*.tgz [01:53] i could even try booting from the 12.2 cd and telling it to boot with root as my usb external drive but i don't know if the 12.2 hugesmp kernel understands LVM enough to boot directly to it [01:53] i just use VMs and copy on write file [01:53] makes life easy [01:53] I too use virtual machines now. [01:54] sorry i cannot tolerate VMs [01:54] Sure you can. [01:54] it should be possible to do this using a chroot into as close to a "real" install as possible [01:54] tolerance is a choice :P [01:54] well a VM *is* a real install [01:54] zuhair (n=zuhair@125.161.182.215) left irc: "Leaving" [01:54] Then you choose to not tolerate VMs, although you certainly *can* :) [01:55] i know :D [01:55] zuhair (n=zuhair@125.161.182.215) joined ##slackware. [01:55] sherique (n=se@69.150.48.196) left irc: [01:55] anyways, so what i was thinking is that this time i'll just create a 10GB or so LV and install 12.2 to it from the install dvd, then chroot to it later [01:56] That works. [01:56] rworkman, um, did you notice that the xfce plugin fs-guard seems to invert the graphical "thermometer" display so that if the drive is almost totally empty, it appears in fs-guard as if the drive is almost totally without any free space? [01:57] I'm trying to make a slackbuild for this torrent client... but it's got a kind of bizarre installation procedure and requires some editing of config files for apache php. Is this worth making a slackbuild out of? I don't really "get it" [01:57] hiptobecubic, what torrent client? [01:57] TwinReverb: I don't use it :/ [01:57] torrentflux [01:57] a torrent client does not need to enable mod_php [01:58] hiptobecubic: you can script the scripting. i just went through that same sort of deal [01:58] that is highly suspicious [01:58] I was just thinking along the lines of "You're doing it wrong" [01:58] torrentflux is not your typical torrent client [01:58] dangit i bought some tea at a korean store but it's in korean and now i don't know how to mix it :S [01:58] (where "you" = "torrent client devs") [01:58] it runs completely as a 'webpage' on top of a perl script... if i understood it correctly [01:58] rworkman, could you try it please? [01:58] just to see if it reproduces? [01:58] heeeeey robby [01:58] whats up man [01:59] it's for running on a remote server [01:59] is it using mod_perl, or CGI? [01:59] it looks pretty good actually. certainly better than a lot of the alternatives. [01:59] www.torrentflux.com [02:00] drunken uno is awesome [02:00] oh it looks like it runs over bittornado possibly? [02:00] TwinReverb: It looks right here. version 0.4.2 [02:00] straterra: not much... [02:01] happy holidays [02:01] s/drunken// ;s/awesome/blows/ [02:01] straterra: thanks and same to you [02:02] uno is blows? :P [02:02] lol [02:02] yeah i noticed that and didn't want to write another s/// [02:02] lol [02:03] i wanna know why alcohol makes your head hot [02:03] i guess this thing doesn't really need a slackbuild... it doesn't even "install" [02:03] yeah nevermind [02:03] lol [02:03] alcohol makes everything hotter. [02:03] Especially ugly women. [02:04] my gf isnt ugly [02:04] It dialates blood vessels [02:04] it helped me win uno though [02:04] half a bottle of rum later :P [02:04] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:04] eggnog and rum man [02:04] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-7-116.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:05] rum and rum :P [02:05] haha [02:06] Action: TwinReverb doesn't need that stuff: he's high on life [02:06] i dont need it [02:06] it just makes life zomgbetter [02:06] Action: TwinReverb is also trying to help someone with Mandriva Linux so alcohol isn't a good idea right now [02:06] rworkman: digikam works great now. I used the bash -e digikam.SlackBuild as you mentioned. [02:06] zomgbetter like gentoo compile time option --zomg-better ? [02:06] firebird619: outstanding; thanks for the feedback. [02:07] hey do onboard webcams on some laptops list as pci or usb devices? [02:07] TwinReverb: dare I refer you to bash(1) ? :) [02:07] usb [02:07] rworkman: np Thanks for the help. [02:07] r0nin (i=ryan@host-67-32-226-102.tys.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:08] i had an oatmeal chocolate stout [02:09] that's candy for beer people [02:09] YARR [02:09] landlubber [02:10] when you make a script in rc.d... does it have to be added to rc.M to be run at startup or is the whole directory executed and chmod +x would be enough? [02:11] gm152 (n=gm@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:14] hiptobecubic: there needs to be an if test for +x for that script in rc.M [02:14] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:14] or rc.local [02:14] rc.M is really not meant to be messed with [02:14] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:15] personally, i do any custom stuff in rc.local whenever possible [02:17] nullboy, alright thanks [02:20] morning lads! [02:20] Mery Christmas 8oD [02:20] Conflict_80 (i=500@128-209.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:21] hba (n=hba@189.188.154.221) joined ##slackware. [02:21] superGear (i=superGea@c-67-166-1-173.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:21] hey phrag! [02:22] been a while, how's big blue over there? [02:22] phrag: Merry Christmas, mate :) [02:23] still big and blue, i\'m back at uni just now though =) [02:23] BP{k}: merry christmas bud 8o) [02:23] firebird619 (i=1000@173-17-139-201.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:23] is it merry drunken time yet? =P [02:23] it's 5 o'clock somewhere ;) [02:23] lol [02:24] haha [02:24] what you guys got planned for the day? [02:25] phrag: eat, drink, be merry and sod all ;) [02:25] mostly quiet as the 'in-laws' will not be here till the 28th. [02:27] =) [02:28] spend 9 hours in the car in my case [02:28] harsh! [02:31] posh coffee and christmas smoke coming up! 8o) [02:31] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.8.207) joined ##slackware. [02:32] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.129.161) left ##slackware. [02:32] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [02:32] nice [02:34] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:35] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:39] Action: TwinReverb is sick of the driers not working [02:39] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-139-201.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [02:40] usus12jari (n=ashe@125.163.72.14) left irc: "leaving" [02:41] ACPI: BIOS age (1999) fails cutoff (2001), acpi=force is required to enable ACPI [02:41] where do i put acpi=force? [02:41] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.8.207) left irc: "0x0" [02:41] and can it screw anything up? [02:42] nooper, you put it in the append="" area in LILO [02:42] but if you really want, you don't have to do that: to test it, reboot, and instead of pressing enter key to select the kernel, press tab, select the kernel image you want to boot, (i.e. Linux or whatever), but do it like this: [02:42] Linux acpi=force [02:43] ah, thanks [02:43] i don't remember what the default name for the default kernel image is on your computer, but i think you get the piont [02:43] er point [02:43] and i don't think it will hurt anything [02:43] nooper: worst case it just errors [02:43] not big [02:43] not/no [02:43] but even then, if it does, you did it from the LILO boot, so you could easily reboot if it gives you any issues [02:44] the only major thing i've ever seen is if you had acpi off when you installed (causing somehow the hard drive geometry to be incorrectly detected) and then with acpi=force it's detected properly (finally) but now you can't boot because the hard drive geometry is incorrect [02:44] i've only seen this ONCE, and even then, like i said, you can always reboot and go back to no acpi [02:44] and it was on an old 1999 laptop [02:44] it was a gateway solo S2150 [02:45] the chances of acpi=force causing you problems are like 1 in a million [02:47] I was going to batch resize my photos in digikam, but I now notice that menu items, such as batch, are empty, so I resized the photos in another way. What would cause blank menus? [02:47] i dunno about digikam [02:47] my advice is find another way to do it that's easier [02:48] TwinReverb: imagemagick as rworkman suggested earlier, or another way? [02:48] for example, i use ~/Desktop/Images which has People/ Places/ Things/ Events/ and underneath People there is Donna/ Jonathan/ Dominic/ Me/ Group/ Family/ Melissa Black/ Shadrack Black/ etc as needed [02:48] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:48] yeah i'd use imagemagick for stuff like that [02:49] just be sure to test it out first [02:49] TwinReverb: the convert command? [02:49] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:49] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:49] like copy three of them to /tmp and try the command [02:49] um let me go check real quick [02:49] ugh not again... [02:50] yeah it's "convert -size" etc [02:50] that's why i say test it [02:50] i think it's "for i in /tmp/*.JPG; do convert -size 800x600 $i; done" [02:50] but don't quote me, and please test it before you do it [02:51] hiptobecubic: ISP? [02:51] i think once i did that and it worked good for all except the ones that were not 4:3 ratio [02:51] nullboy, yeah... we'll see if it drops me again. [02:51] TwinReverb: Ok, I can try that next time. I at least got this batch resized to e-mail. I got a new digital camera for Christmas from my uncle and I told him I would e-mail some pictures I took with it. [02:51] hiptobecubic: i'm in that club [02:52] firebird619, not saying you can't use digikam, just saying that sometimes the solution is easier than using software to do it for you: sometimes it's simply putting things in a more logical arrangement on a drive (but that's just me) [02:52] firebird619, if you want i can show you what that means in a /msg [02:53] TwinReverb: Thanks, but I need to be getting to sleep here soon. It's 2:00 AM here. Maybe another time? [02:54] TwinReverb: I can learn another way, such as the convert command, I was just curious too as to why some of the menus in digikam were blank. [02:54] k [02:54] ah [02:54] for that i have no clue [02:54] TwinReverb: me either. :) [02:54] My webserver is kindly serving all my php as files \o/ marvelous. [02:54] sometimes programs store image thumbnails in ~/.thumbnails, ~/.cache etc so you could possibly dump the thumbnails in those directories (but make sure the program(s) that do this aren't running, and be careful what you dump) [02:54] TwinReverb: Thank you for the suggestions you did offer though. [02:55] who needs webpages when you can download raw ascii spaghetti [02:55] hiptobecubic, who needs VESA mod when you can just get a very big screen and use libaa [02:55] :) [02:55] Who needs anything when you can just do some shitty alternative? [02:56] or just choose your highest framebuffer and go libaa on everything :D [02:56] i know i'm just messin' wit' you [02:56] :D know anything about php? [02:56] specifically making apache do it [02:56] goodnight everyone & Merry Christmas [02:56] night [02:56] i know nothing about php [02:57] dive (n=diversit@82-43-220-252.cable.ubr01.craw.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Kaput!" 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[03:18] Arirang, LOL [03:19] $ 14183.00 - sata 9tb [03:19] haha [03:19] 9tb [03:19] http://www.pricewatch.com/hard_removable_drives/ [03:19] Action: TwinReverb needs to figure out how to mix peach tea mix in a 2 qt pitcher without a large enough spoon [03:20] i just mentioned it to my brother he says he had an old IDE just laying around [03:21] said it would be too much hassle selling it so he's just giving it to me [03:21] wwmd [03:22] ? [03:22] ParadigmShift, hmm well in that case i'd have my wife send you all our old IDE drives too but i don't have the time to sanitize them [03:22] What Would MacGiver Do [03:22] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [03:22] melvin would probably fixor it [03:25] i wish i could get my dual p3 machine up and running but it's not here [03:25] and i think it's the motherboard so i basically have a box of parts now :S [03:26] always handy [03:27] well the hard drives might be, the PSU might be, but pc133 ecc RAM? 1.13GHz Tualatin P3s? [03:28] infernal_jesus (n=igor@unaffiliated/infernaljesus/x-763248) left irc: "Laziness is not a disease, it's a privilege." [03:31] can i change my flash privacy settings for a domain prior to loading the flash app ? [03:31] like, without right clicking settings on the applet [03:33] phrag: i use noscript and it blocks everything by default. not sure if that could help you though [03:33] it gives you the ability to allow components of a site one by one [03:34] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:34] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:36] nullboy: yeah, i use noscript too... [03:36] ivvmm (n=ivvmm@80.252.154.85) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:36] this is at the app level though, i want to actually allow it access to my mic and webcam before it loads, as a bug seems to exist that freezes the settings window in firefox [03:36] usus12jari (n=ashe@125.163.72.14) joined ##slackware. [03:37] thanks though [03:37] do you have flash HW acceleration enabled? [03:37] yeah [03:37] there has been a lot of people with serious issues and having that enabled [03:37] ahs/have [03:37] damn. [03:37] hmm, let me try thanks [03:38] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:39] usus12jari (n=ashe@125.163.72.14) left irc: Client Quit [03:39] FYI [03:39] http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager06.html [03:39] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [03:39] this is what i was looking for =) [03:39] nice! 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[04:47] should i try gnash? or is it horrible? [04:47] noticed there's no slackbuild for it on sbo [04:48] lyecdevf (n=lyecdevf@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [04:48] sherique (n=se@69.150.48.196) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:51] anyone? :) [04:52] Herman (n=Hermann@h62n4c1o1003.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [04:55] irc is dying [04:55] true [04:56] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: [04:56] ZZZZzzzzZZzz [04:59] slava_dp: I believe it doesn't work very well with many of the flash media player type apps (although I believe youtube does work). It's compatiable with Flash 7 stuff in general I believe.. It's been awhile since I did any research on it. [04:59] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:59] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:00] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.0x535bd556.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:07] hba (n=hba@189.188.154.221) left irc: "leaving" [05:07] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [05:08] Wescotte, thanks for your review :) i was gonna try it but if it only can do flash 7 than it's crapware [05:09] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:09] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [05:09] slava_dp: yeah it has a ways to go still.. Adobe's player is pretty stable these days so it's hard to complain too much [05:10] it's time for adobe to opensource their player imo. cause it's frustrating that such a popular piece of software is proprietary [05:11] yeah but it's hard to complain now that they finally released a 64bit ver.. [05:11] gnash's website says 7+ compatible... It'll be nice when it finally catches up though [05:11] yeah, but we have to complain or it'll never happen :) [05:11] heh [05:12] enigma (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [05:12] gnash will catch up and then we'll have an open source alternative and I'll switch to it. Adobe can keep it closed for all I care [05:12] enigma (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) left irc: Client Quit [05:12] and the worst is that you can't distribute their player. if i want to make an embedded device with it and sell it i can't [05:13] enigma (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [05:13] yep, i'd switch with pleasure [05:13] i think i will try gnash [05:13] didn't know you couldn't distribute the player [05:13] s4mur4i__ (n=s4mur4i@189.81.27.32) joined ##slackware. [05:13] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:13] enigma (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) left irc: Client Quit [05:14] Wescotte, that's in the licence agreement. it's only for personal non-commercial use. [05:14] sherique (n=se@69.150.48.196) joined ##slackware. [05:14] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:14] I wish there was a decent open source flash builder app too.. [05:15] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:15] oh yeah.... [05:15] that and pretty much a decent open source alternative to the entire adobe product line :) [05:15] but i'd be happy to at least have a player :) [05:15] heh [05:16] :-D [05:16] We have Gimp (and many other good photoshopish apps)/Inkscape.. Just need a solid NLE which I hope Lumiera fits in there [05:18] a rewrite of cinelerra.... woohoo! that's gonna rock [05:19] there's also kdenlive, haven [05:19] enigma (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [05:19] haven't tried it though [05:19] what the hell is mysql... like really? "database thing" doesn't really cut it [05:20] I tried kdenlive awhile back and it was very unstable fo rme [05:20] Wescotte, i heard they've rewritten it for kde4. [05:21] hiptobecubic: heh I don't know how to describe it much better than "database" :) Are you familar at all with sql itself? [05:21] Wescotte, absolutely not. [05:22] well that's good. What's going on here is i'm trying to install torrentfluxb4rt. which uses mysql for some reason. and it wants to create a database and is asking me for a user/pass combination, and i'm not sure what to tell it. [05:22] hiptobecubic: Well, sql is a language syntax that allows you to store and retrieve data from a database. [05:22] i see [05:23] hiptobecubic, get yourself phpmyadmin, then you'll be able to control mysql graphically via a browser [05:23] hiptobecubic: in this case mysql is the database itself and the tools to access it via sql. Once you find a reason to use a database you'll wonder how you ever did anything without one [05:24] U-Neeks (n=666@201-40-14-200.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [05:24] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:24] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:24] stupid isp [05:24] Anyway [05:24] hiptobecubic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sql gives a decent overview [05:25] It says, "Please enter your MySQL database settings below: " and i don't know if it wants some kind settings that are in specific to mysql or what? [05:25] what says this? [05:25] is there a config file somwhere where i had to define "torrentfluxb4rt" as an allowed user or something [05:26] i'm trying to set up torrentfluxb4rt, which is a php based front end bittorrent client [05:26] and i'm going through the setup [05:27] Wescotte, it says that, and then has four text entry boxes: Host, Name, Username, Password. [05:27] ah.. not familar with the client.. However you might need to add a user for torrentfluxb4rt to mysql with specific permissions [05:27] U-Neeks (n=666@201-40-14-200.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:27] Wescotte, that sounds meaningful... mysql has it's own users? [05:28] it doesn't use the system's users.. or what have you? [05:28] hiptobecubic: the mysql-gui-tools (on the mysql website) are very helpful for creating users and setting up specific permissions [05:28] hiptobecubic: no it's different than system users.. mysql has it's own database of users and permissions they have each database/table etc [05:29] hiptobecubic, http://www.phpmyadmin.net/ [05:29] it will allow you to set up users and grant permissions [05:29] hiptobecubic: Do you have mysql up and running? you might want to read /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld as it has some instructions on how to set it up [05:30] s4mur4i_ (n=s4mur4i@189.81.43.113) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:30] Wescotte, it's already running. I made the inital database and ran rc.mysqld [05:30] MReimer_ (n=chatzill@p4FD4AFD8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [05:31] hiptobecubic: ah ok.. well mysql has CLI tools to add users and setup new database/tables and whatnot but I've never really learned to use them. I prefer the mysql-gui-tools but there are tons of alternatives [05:31] i'm working off of this... http://www.databasef1.com/tutorial/mysql-create-user.html i just found it. [05:33] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:34] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:35] foureyes879 (n=theron@97-113-181-35.tukw.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [05:36] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [05:36] someone said irc is dying.... i seriously doubt that since #ubuntu is populated by many strange people asking even stranger questions :-) [05:36] is there any application on linux ubuntu you can control the charge of your mp3 player with? [05:36] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [05:37] sfer2> harlemdavvey: what do you mean exactly? or not [05:37] heh, I've been using IRC for well over a decade now. Don't think I'll ever have a PC without an irc client running :) [05:37] hah.. what did he mean by charge? :) [05:38] i dunno [05:38] that question just happen or you have it as a log of one of the stranger ones? [05:39] like two minutes ago :) [05:39] i'm watching #ubuntu for fun [05:39] occasionally answering [05:39] ah well if they clarify wtf charge is lemme know :) [05:39] Wescotte, :-) [05:40] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:41] ashvala: The Creative Zen stone does not have a display, he wants to check the charge status [05:41] there [05:41] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:42] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:42] ah.. makes sense.. "control" was the confusing part :) [05:42] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection reset by peer [05:47] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:48] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left irc: "Dinner, gentlemen" [05:49] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [05:49] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:53] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-013-039.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[06:59] nille_ (i=1000@c-3861e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:59] ^^ [07:00] yeah I tried to view some thing [07:00] on the site cops [07:00] only in US [07:00] enigma (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [07:00] hello [07:01] is there a slackbuild for xmms vu meter? [07:05] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.131.72) joined ##slackware. [07:09] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:09] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:13] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:13] Grasputin (n=ubuntu@24-155-246-229.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [07:13] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:15] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [07:21] Grasputin (n=ubuntu@24-155-246-229.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:25] Vic1ous (n=Vic1ous@75-120-151-45.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [07:25] MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! [07:29] k_wolf (n=wolf@201009148019.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:29] gnubien (n=e@97.100.252.184) joined ##slackware. [07:34] ivvmm (n=ivvmm@80.252.154.85) joined ##slackware. [07:38] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "co'o" [07:38] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:39] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:40] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:40] Is there a SeaMonkey 1.1.14 update planned, soon? Firefox has been updated, but a patch for SeaMonkey is still missing... [07:43] is 'gdk_pixbuf' included in slackware dvd iso? [07:44] MReimer_: you can get a binary package from seamonkey's website, just unpack it and make a symlink in one of your paths like /usr/local/bin [07:44] enigma: gdk_pixbuf was abandoned around slackware 12.0 [07:45] Pig_Pen: xmms plugin: vumeter needs it to compile :( [07:45] i know because xmms-1.2.10 required gdk_pixbuf, but the latest xmms-1.2.11 no longer requires it [07:45] i built the latest xmms and it does not require it [07:45] Pig_Pen: ./configure with errors ... [07:46] it does not for me [07:46] Pig_Pen: xmms doesn't require it but vumeter plugin needs it ... [07:46] ah, i see [07:47] Pig_Pen: is there another way to compile it? [07:47] let me see what i can do with xmms [07:51] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "#E>6C" [07:54] svip (n=svip@unaffiliated/svip) joined ##slackware. [07:54] where is this vumeter? i did not see it in the subdirectories and nothing in ./configure --help [07:54] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:55] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left ##slackware. [07:59] Pig_Pen: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=56771&package_id=52133 [07:59] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:00] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [08:01] that last slackware i seen with gdk_pixbuf was slackware 11 you could try installing that package and see if it will build, i can not say for sure if it will work since gdk_pixbuf is old and obsolete [08:02] Pig_Pen: ok, thanks [08:03] you know gdk_pixbuf is a gnome library? http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gdk-pixbuf/ and it is quite old, has not seen any development since 2002 [08:04] Pig_Pen: in gtk-2.0? [08:04] svip (n=svip@unaffiliated/svip) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:04] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:04] that is the link to the sources for gdk_pixbuf [08:05] it is for gtk-1.x as is xmms [08:06] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [08:06] 'slackpkg search *gdk-pixbuf*' and found it in gtk+2 [08:07] Pig_Pen: maybe i can do a little trick to the configure file :) [08:08] MReimer_ (n=chatzill@p4FD4AFD8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:08] hmm, good luck with that, gdk_pixbuf is an odd library to build from what i read in Pat's slackbuild [08:09] raela (n=raela@c-76-100-147-18.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "going to south carolina" [08:09] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-11.0/source/l/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf.build [08:09] This is one of those [silly] things that will only build under X... 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What is the maximum capacity that a Blu-ray disk that will hold (currently on the market)? [08:36] I am tired of hearing all the great stuff that is in the pipeline for blu-ray. [08:37] i would wait and let the hardware manufacturers work the bugs out and get the specs up on blueray burners [08:38] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.41) joined ##slackware. [08:38] Pig_Pen: Until then external Hard disks is the way to go, I guess. [08:39] or just a regular DVD burner, i bought a good Asus dvd burner for 25 bucks brand new at newegg a couple of months ago [08:40] thats as cheap as a large stack of dvd blanks [08:40] The-Croupier: merry christmas bud [08:41] Merry Christmas phrag! [08:41] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176070079.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [08:41] XGizzmo: merry chirstmas mate 8o) [08:41] Some of the files I have (Photos, Videos and VMware machines) do take up large disk space. Photos, I can spread them around a few disks. Videos and VMs, I cannot. 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[09:00] phrag: merry christmas bro [09:00] long time no see... what you been upto these days [09:00] is that binns proffessor giving you a hard time ;) [09:01] merry christmas to all the christians in slackware as well by the way [09:01] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:02] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.41) left irc: "Bye Bye" [09:03] merry christmas, The-Croupier [09:05] gades (n=gades@190.33.62.19) joined ##slackware. [09:06] In KDE Control Center, I was playing around with the Theme Manager. Now the desktop icons are located little bit further apart. I have reset and tried other themes but the desktop icons are still apart. How do I get them back to the original settings? [09:07] Anhado (n=anhado@lx2-84-90-11-190.netvisao.pt) left ##slackware. [09:07] kleanchap: put the theme back + manually move the icons [09:08] foldingstock: I will try that. [09:13] well that sucks, someone stole my brother's laptop from his car this morning [09:14] raela|alt: Sorry to hear that! That is not a nice thing to happen on a holiday. [09:15] Hopefully he will get a better one soon. [09:15] yeah. he only would've had it unlocked for an hour or two [09:15] LordAnta (n=alex@Pc-4397.NA.Home.Ran.Ro) joined ##slackware. [09:17] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.129.161) joined ##slackware. [09:17] when does linux shutdown the monitor after how much idle time? [09:21] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-227361.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:21] whenever you tell it to [09:21] twolf: what is the default? and where can I change the settings? [09:23] dios_mio: you can use xscreensaver if you are using x, power power management [09:23] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:23] twolf: and where on console? [09:24] read /etc/rc.d/rc.M your monitor should go blank in 15 minutes and powerdown in one hour [09:25] ok thanks [09:25] you could change that if you want, i set mine to power down in 30 minutes [09:26] but that timer is reset anytime the keyboard or mouse is touched [09:27] ok [09:28] hello [09:29] thars pirates a bein broadcast on 6925 USB but the one on there now seems tobe a little off frequency, i get them clearly on 6925.3 [09:29] Kircey (n=micheal@pool-71-253-125-96.eriepa.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving." [09:30] LordAnta (n=alex@Pc-4397.NA.Home.Ran.Ro) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [09:30] Pig_Pen: do I init 3 to get rc.M settings to be applied? [09:30] playing christmas music, music does not sound good on HF SSB [09:30] just run that command once in a terminal, but next time you boot you wont have to worry about it [09:31] right, thanks [09:31] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176070079.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:32] slackmag1c (n=magician@pool-71-97-108-177.dllstx.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:32] they must have a screwed up transmitter, they keep drifting [09:34] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176070079.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:34] when you run the setterm command in one terminal it is picked up on any tty? [09:35] it should [09:36] Kool-Aid (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:36] santa clause radio [09:38] archilles (n=root@117.196.135.26) joined ##slackware. [09:39] acidkill_ (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:39] Nick change: haqe17 -> xmas_w00t [09:40] hi all [09:41] hi [09:42] how to save a session? [09:42] screen? [09:42] so that i can continue after a reboot? [09:42] continue what? [09:43] if I am in X? [09:43] In KDE, its an option in the preferences [09:43] if am in X and using pidgin, firefox, etc [09:43] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:43] flux> [09:43] google it [09:44] anyone there? [09:44] anyone where? [09:45] bughunter2 (n=Jelle@77.164.66.126) left irc: "Leaving." [09:45] you can't save flux sessions [09:45] why slackware is different from others? [09:45] its not a desktop, its just a window manager [09:45] gnome/kde/xfce can save sessions [09:45] http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=fluxbox+save+session [09:45] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) joined ##slackware. [09:45] define different? [09:45] archilles: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=fluxbox+save+session [09:46] software distribution system is bad i think [09:46] then don't use it. and use something I want. [09:46] uhm [09:46] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176070079.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [09:46] use somethin *you* want. [09:46] Seems a bit like trolling [09:46] i liked it before you fixed it :D [09:47] acidkill (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [09:47] Pig_Pen: :) [09:47] everyone is sleeping infront of the system:) [09:47] what?? [09:48] Are you blind? [09:48] lol [09:48] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [09:48] archilles: you are not really in front of your computer, this is all just a bad dream [09:48] vinnie_ (n=vinnie__@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "Leaving" [09:48] its a nightmare for me [09:48] slap him, see if he wakes up [09:48] take the red pill and wake up [09:48] slap, watch, and repeat [09:49] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176070079.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:49] take the blue pill and either you will keep dreaming or have a four hour erection [09:49] vinnie_ (n=vinnie__@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [09:49] you should call the dr if that occures [09:51] vinnie_ (n=vinnie__@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: Client Quit [09:51] vinnie_ (n=vinnie__@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [09:52] my faves will not save on xchat [09:52] SpacePlod: ping [09:53] Nick change: ROKO__ -> ROKO__-[afk] [09:53] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176070079.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Client Quit [09:53] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176070079.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:55] vinnie_ (n=vinnie__@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: Client Quit [09:55] vinnie_ (n=vinnie__@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [09:55] ahaa... its working now [09:55] i would not call a Dr. i would tell my wife :D [09:57] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [09:58] too lazy to call a Dr yourself? ;) [10:00] no, she would put it to good use [10:03] coat hanger? [10:03] Nick change: ROKO__-[afk] -> ROKO__ [10:05] lol!!! [10:06] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:08] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:08] archilles (n=root@117.196.135.26) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:08] smeding (i=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:08] archilles (n=root@117.196.135.26) joined ##slackware. [10:10] IRCing as root is bad [10:11] gm152 (n=gm@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:12] yup, using any network aware app can have dire consecquences [10:13] hmm the LVM on my external usb 500gb hard drive doesn't show up on the desktop when i plug it in [10:13] does it mount automatically (hal & dbus) ? [10:14] for KDE you need to enable that in the control center [10:15] no [10:15] it does not show up automagically on the desktop either [10:15] i use xfce btw [10:15] Desktop > behaviour in the device icons tab [10:16] not sure about xfce [10:16] it didn't auto-mount [10:16] and i think i dorked up the device [10:16] hold on, i'll try it again [10:17] fwiw (to show my friend) are there graphical partitioning programs in linux? [10:17] er in slackware 12.2? [10:17] gparted [10:17] not for 12.2 out of the box [10:17] cfdisk is pretty good IMO [10:17] i like cfdisk [10:17] i do too [10:18] ^Gecko^ (i=asdjhasd@72-24-84-47.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [10:18] gparted might build in slackware, i have not looked for it at slackbuilds, not sure if it needs a bunch of gnome crap [10:19] <^Gecko^> I want to know if I can get a serial terminal running from the install dvd, so I can run the setup from here. can I? [10:19] archilles (n=root@117.196.135.26) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:20] lyecdevf2 (n=lyecdevf@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [10:20] configure: error: Package requirements (gtkmm-2.4 > 2.8 [10:21] archilles (n=root@117.196.135.26) joined ##slackware. [10:21] i wonder what dependencies gtkmm has [10:23] Dependencies: libsigc++, glibmm, cairomm [10:23] happy xmas TwinReverb straterra :-) [10:23] Pig_Pen, [10:23] i4k (n=kyur4thi@217.117.75.2) joined ##slackware. [10:23] Dependencies: libsigc++, glibmm, cairomm [10:23] gtkmm requires glibmm [10:24] <^Gecko^> anybody? [10:24] lyecdevf (n=lyecdevf@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:24] i4k (n=kyur4thi@217.117.75.2) left irc: Client Quit [10:24] Pig_Pen, http://www.slacky.eu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6154&Itemid=65 [10:24] k4i (n=kyur4thi@217.117.75.2) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:25] what about libgnomemm, and the dependencies are going to be many, before you know it you have half of gnome installed so i will say no thanks to gparted [10:25] ^Gecko^, yes u can ;) [10:25] ^Gecko^: Yes, it is possible. [10:25] <^Gecko^> sweet [10:25] F4 to see what's going on [10:25] and the rest is all for you [10:25] ah, i see [10:25] thanks mohaa [10:25] <^Gecko^> so how do I make it work, lol? [10:26] Pig_Pen, gtkmm is pain in the **** you're welcome [10:26] <^Gecko^> hugesmp.s? [10:26] F4 to see what's going on ^Gecko^ [10:26] and the rest is all for you [10:26] <^Gecko^> f4, at what point, with the regular install kernel hugesmp.s? [10:27] i will stick with cfdisk, works in both any x-terminal or the console [10:27] ^Gecko^, the usual way "alt+Fn" [10:27] <^Gecko^> 9600,8,n,1? [10:28] ^Gecko^, you can not do none before the dvd boots up so.... [10:28] ^Gecko^, what do you mean by "I want to know if I can get a serial terminal running from the install dvd, so I can run the setup from here" [10:29] <^Gecko^> boot the install dvd, then go here to this computer I'm typing at, and log in to the serial port [10:30] Anyone here tried AVRdude? [10:33] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.45) joined ##slackware. [10:33] so if i make my entire 500gb external usb an LVM, other operating systems can't read the logical volumes on it regardless of filesystem? [10:33] <^Gecko^> mohaa? [10:35] ^Gecko^, serial port o_O ? [10:35] <^Gecko^> yes [10:35] tty [10:35] <^Gecko^> yes [10:35] well do as I told you [10:35] <^Gecko^> yeah I just get another prompt [10:35] ^Gecko^, the usual way "alt+Fn" [10:36] yes [10:36] <^Gecko^> that's not what I want [10:36] and you'll have a message advising you to hit enter if you want to use the tty [10:36] <^Gecko^> but that's not what I want [10:37] :D ^Gecko^ [10:37] <^Gecko^> I want to use, putty, over a serial port connection [10:37] <^Gecko^> from this computer [10:37] oh that's something else to me [10:37] TwinReverb: if i had an external drive i wanted to use to move files from one PC to any other PC at many locations i would just make 4 primary FAT32 disk partitions on it since fat32 seems to easily be read and written to by most all OSs [10:37] :) [10:38] <^Gecko^> :( [10:38] ^Gecko^, actually it's not the same pc, is it ? [10:38] <^Gecko^> nope [10:38] :/ [10:39] that's where I was wondering :/ [10:39] <^Gecko^> easier for me to do than running across the room to mess about with it [10:39] <^Gecko^> around the desk, rather, and sit on the floor, lol [10:42] Pig_Pen, but fat32 is limited to 32gb in size so you'd have a bunch of wasted space [10:42] got a big ass ham and sweet taters in the oven, the wife made two cherry pies [10:42] oh, OW! i forgot about fat32's limitations [10:42] ext2? [10:42] and my usb hard drive doesn't like LVM2 [10:42] <^Gecko^> jeez I guess I should look at the FAQ [10:43] <^Gecko^> my answer is there [10:43] <^Gecko^> :P [10:43] smeding (i=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:43] smeding (i=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:44] regardless what filesystem you put on it by using only four primary partitions you avoid the LVM/LVM2 issus [10:44] issues [10:45] <^Gecko^> hrmmmm [10:45] /dev/block/253:3: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error [10:45] 0 logical volume(s) in volume group "mydata" now active [10:45] <^Gecko^> reiser, ext3, or jfs........hrmmmmmmmmm [10:45] maybe use more than one file system, one 32gig fat32, and the rest of the disk divide in to three ext2 primary partitions [10:45] there are no issues with lvm2 on my local hard drive [10:45] ext2? [10:45] only on this usb external 500gb hard drive [10:45] yeah [10:45] the external is what i am talking about [10:46] i even extended my /home onto sda1 once to help do something, so i don't get it [10:46] well i may have to, pig pen, but i don't want to lol [10:46] ^Gecko^ (i=asdjhasd@72-24-84-47.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "Madness? 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[11:04] y0 [11:04] hello [11:05] um if i accidentally delete my primary partition, how do i fix it? :S [11:05] try to remember the boundaries [11:06] TwinReverb, heh [11:06] when will the slackbook 3.0 out ? [11:06] i'm using lvm (or was lol) so hopefully i can somehow copy /home to usb device [11:08] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:09] copy in progress ... :S [11:09] archilles (n=root@117.196.135.26) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:09] archilles (n=root@117.196.135.26) joined ##slackware. [11:11] TwinReverb: rsync? [11:12] gotta love rsync [11:12] Been testing the new gnome 2.24 :) Sadly, the gdm that belongs wants pam.. [11:12] vinnie_ (n=vinnie__@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "Leaving" [11:14] vinnie_ (n=vinnie__@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [11:14] but luckily the gdm from 2.22 works :) [11:14] acidchi1d, the external usb drive was empty because i was trying to put an LVM on it [11:15] so i had to blast the usb hard drive so that i could put a reiserfs partition on it and then copy /home to it [11:15] rsync would be nice but there's nothing to sync to: it's blank (or was before i started the copy) [11:16] too bad there's no way to "restore" a drive or whatnot [11:16] renew01 (n=renew@adsl-68-127-166-107.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:17] X -configure makes a new config file right? [11:17] dangit i had to go and get confused while talking to wife and dump my hda [11:17] yeah [11:17] elbeardmorez_ (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:17] limac, yeah :) [11:17] limac, yes and so should xorgconfig and xorgsetup [11:17] k, just checking. [11:18] xorgconfig it is then! :) [11:18] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@77.165.217.148) left irc: "leaving" [11:18] deathmc (n=deathmc@reson.soleus.nu) joined ##slackware. [11:18] Nick change: deathmc -> Blikjeham [11:21] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving" [11:23] ok guys, i need something to register a domain name..but just that ... no hosting nothing just the domain name? [11:23] in google i get lots and lots... which one to choose from those [11:23] i dont care what they offer that much [11:23] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@81.193.20.163) joined ##slackware. [11:24] could you suggest something please ? :( [11:24] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.122) left irc: "Saliendo" [11:24] hello happy slackers [11:24] merry christmas [11:24] i'm awake [11:24] merry christmas everybody [11:24] merry christmas guys [11:25] http://www.isitchristmas.com/ [11:25] The-Croupier, godaddy [11:25] just don't host with them [11:25] edman007: was never on my list [11:25] ;) [11:26] thank you [11:26] :) [11:27] Cool, it's Christmas already. [11:27] Beware of self-styled experts: an ex is a has-been, and a spurt is a drip under pressure. [11:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:28] Pig_Pen: why do you burn your braincells with un-needed philosophy..:p [11:28] its christmas enjoy it [11:28] Pig_Pen, bleeding? [11:29] It's Christmas in Heaven, [11:29] There's great films on TV, [11:30] 'The Sound of Music' twice an hour, [11:30] And 'Jaws' One, Two, and Three. [11:30] slackytude, sounds repetitive [11:31] do they play the crappy sci fi movies? [11:31] I dont know. I dont get invited to heaven anymore [11:31] after the whole fall from grace issue [11:32] I'm watching narnia :) [11:32] braincells? i dont have any, i have integrated circuits [11:35] fAu (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [11:35] plee, been there done that [11:35] do you guys keep your battery on your laptop and connect it to the AC or remove it ? [11:36] LnxSlck, i keep it plugged in...mainly because i'm lazy [11:36] yeah [11:36] but it's better to remove it right? [11:36] because of the heat? [11:36] its not the heat, it that it shouldn't be charging for a whole week [11:36] right [11:36] s/it/its/ [11:37] edman007, hehe :) to bad for me, it's the only thing worth watching for the moment [11:37] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@81.193.20.163) left irc: "Saindo" [11:37] though last time i did it the battery that was not in the computer was the one that got roasted.... [11:37] plee, i liked that movie... [11:38] but i got a whole lot of movies on my mythtv box :D [11:38] edman007, yeah, it's kinda good :) [11:40] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@81.193.20.163) joined ##slackware. [11:40] is there a way to make gcc permanently follow the c99 standards? instead of having to run gcc -std=c99 every time I compile. [11:40] ? [11:42] limac , environment variables? [11:42] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) joined ##slackware. [11:42] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [11:42] did anyone get a Daisy RedRider BB gun for christmas? [11:43] you can shoot an eye out with that [11:43] archilles (n=root@117.196.135.26) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:43] I got a pony, and two sweaters [11:43] i got a quantum light trap! [11:45] dhcp on slack 12.2 is more verbose [11:47] slackytude: environment variables? [11:48] limac, just a guess [11:49] you could also replace gcc with a small script that calls the real gcc with your switch [11:49] what's the recommended filesystem for slackware ? [11:49] limac: or 'help alias' [11:49] yffs [11:50] limac: you should really write makefile... [11:52] dios_mio (i=test@88.241.129.161) joined ##slackware. [11:56] fAu (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:57] zacharym (i=dude@adsl-69-209-103-74.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [11:59] Somebody know Why firefox show some images in black? [11:59] slackytude: that could be a good possibility. [11:59] slackytude2 (i=schwebel@stud.fbi.h-da.de) joined ##slackware. [11:59] Pip, anyone... ppl like et3 or reiser [11:59] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:59] thank you sladegen, slackytude ;) [11:59] how's everybody doing? [12:00] nice [12:00] zacharym, Amazing [12:00] Pip: what ever make your heart happy. :) [12:00] slackytude2 (i=schwebel@stud.fbi.h-da.de) left irc: Client Quit [12:00] slackytude2 (i=schwebel@stud.fbi.h-da.de) joined ##slackware. [12:00] zacharym: Christmas always brings our spirits up! [12:00] limac, I'm going to be a slacker too [12:01] cool! [12:01] Its not easy being a slacker [12:01] thanks [12:01] you have to look cool all the time and the beer and coffee is really bad for your health [12:01] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [12:01] slackytude, Any good suggestions ? [12:02] eh? for what, exactly? [12:02] Action: limac looks at the mirror *chow* [12:02] for the fs type. [12:02] IMO. [12:02] slackytude (i=schwebel@stud.fbi.h-da.de) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:02] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [12:02] Nick change: limac -> limac2 [12:02] :P [12:03] slackytude, How to look cool [12:03] Nick change: limac2 -> limac [12:03] Pip, I like reiser. ext3 is fine too. if you have 2.6.28, why not ext4? [12:03] elius (n=elius@85-250-79-232.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. [12:03] Ext4 is completed ? [12:03] slackytude: ext4 is out fully? [12:04] lol [12:04] Pip, that which you deceid to wear, is cool [12:04] use vfat... it's easy to dual boot into windos, then. [12:04] well, 2.6.28 kernel notes says ext4 is stable [12:04] okay [12:04] slackytude, and what to drink ? [12:05] question about cron, i got "05 * * * * /etc/cron.hourly/foo" (where foo is an executable bash script) on my crontab however it never runs foo, anything else i need to do to get it to run other than editing the crontab? [12:05] beer and cofffee :D [12:05] Pip: Sunny D! [12:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:05] NuMaStresa (i=1000@unaffiliated/numastresa) joined ##slackware. [12:05] what's that ? [12:05] hi, I just finished installing slackware 12.2 [12:05] NuMaStresa: cool! [12:05] So cool NuMaStresa [12:06] Pip: Orange Juice. [12:06] I downloaded the dvd and used it to install slackware, I had some problems during the instalation [12:06] there were a few packages that couldn't be installed ... weird [12:06] limac, I see [12:06] bad burn or bad iso [12:06] I don't have kde and chosed fluxbox but I wish I had kde [12:06] bad medium [12:07] yes, this was the message I got when I installed it, something with bad burn [12:07] you can just reinstall the packages that messed up afterwards, download them from a mirror after you're in your system [12:07] NuMaStresa, use ftp to your mirror and download the packages :) [12:07] or wget [12:07] NuMaStresa, check the md5 ? [12:07] or slackpkg [12:07] I don't think I know exactly what those packages are [12:07] shoulda wrote themd own *facepalm* [12:08] Pip I got it using torrent I thought It does automatically all the checks [12:08] NuMaStresa, on my laptop, I get errors with my dvd, but on my desktop, I get no errors :) [12:08] you can mount the whole iso and do a installpkg [12:08] Makes sense [12:08] on each on them [12:09] NuMaStresa, was it just kde packages or was it from other categories too? [12:09] wd_ (n=wd@75.47.247.84) joined ##slackware. [12:09] and what's with the login screen, modified the runlevel to 4 at boot , what's that, doesn't looks like gdm or kdm [12:09] xdm [12:09] NuMaStresa, xdm most likely [12:09] I installed everything from the dvd except the games section [12:09] thanks plee , oooh , that's why it's so ugly [12:09] :) [12:10] startx for the woot. [12:10] NuMaStresa, then you can download everything and do a upgradepkg --install-new and then you should be at the same goal [12:10] "download everything" from where and what shoul I download ? the dvd again ? [12:11] sorry, I usually don't ask stupid questions but I'm a little bit confused right now [12:11] NuMaStresa, from the dir slackware under slackware-12.2 at your nearest mirror [12:11] thanks for the tip plee [12:12] guys installing 10.2 on toshiba 400cs 75mhz,2g hd,pentium,i just want basics gcc/kernel stuff/maybe x11-fluxbox/web browser that's it,should i just get A,D,K,N,X? [12:12] weird enough I don't think the mirrors are updated, that's why I used torrent in the first place [12:12] NuMaStresa, there you got all the categories. So leave out kdei if you don't need it, and games. [12:12] ok, thanks for the tips [12:13] wd_: a bit old... http://copocoto.sdf-eu.org/pub/HOWCAN-I_install_Slackware_lazily.txt [12:13] NuMaStresa, my nearest mirror has just gotten updated enough. It was missing updates (patches) [12:13] sladegen: going there. [12:13] but now I'm off to get me some candy :) [12:14] wd_: you can use some third party livecd... [12:14] to boot... then wget... [12:14] fluxbox would be more than enough but I see that there are some apps that don't work [12:15] NikkoniX (n=seq@r9dn22.net.upc.cz) joined ##slackware. [12:15] sladegen: ooops. sorry. cdrom isn't working.i tried the bootdisks bare/install 1&2/network/pcmcia.. pcmcia failed to load orinoco driver.. it's not there in lib so i popped laptop hd in desktop and using cdrom. [12:16] Action: NuMaStresa GIMP 2.4.7 ... ugly ... [12:16] well, that's why I love it, cause I can make it exactly the way I want :) [12:16] wd_: even "better"-) [12:16] Phil-san (n=philipp@p54BFE21D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:17] wd_: but you'll have to fiddle with bootloader anyway. [12:17] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:17] waabimiigwan_ (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:17] zacharym (i=dude@adsl-69-209-103-74.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) left irc: [12:17] waabimiigwan_ (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Client Quit [12:19] sladegen: ? explain. i'm thinking i'll pop it back into laptop and it should be ok,right? i'm not changing the lilo config. [12:20] wd_: eh, nothing, really if you know what you are doing it should be fine. [12:21] sladegen: only have 2g hd..what basics do really need? i'm thinking A/AP/D/K/N/X/XAP-for flux. [12:22] first sentence... 150MB basic. [12:22] sladegen: i fig if i can get debian sarge on this hell slack should really fly. :) [12:22] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:23] 1GB should be enough for non kde/gnome. [12:23] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [12:24] k [12:25] any ideas what should I install to have the gtk apps look nicer ? [12:25] Anyone use Intel Atom processor equipped computer ? [12:25] corefonts [12:26] sladegen: when it's done i should probly recompile kernel with wireless extensions and wifi card statically before i transfer to lap huh? [12:26] Which console font is the best ? [12:26] bitstream vera fonts are nice [12:27] Pip: fixed... you mean xterm fonts? [12:27] Er...yes [12:27] non-X mode [12:27] console fonts [12:27] xterm = X [12:28] wd_: prolly a good thing. but you can leave slackware kernel as another boot option if they are there as modules already. [12:28] LordDoskias (i=Nikisoft@unaffiliated/lorddoskias) joined ##slackware. [12:28] So that's Xterm? Can I use another virtual terminal software ? [12:28] merry christmass to all [12:28] Pip, sure [12:28] i just wanna ask whether sysctl's somaxconn controls the max half-open tcp connection [12:28] LordDoskias, You too [12:29] sulo (n=mc@cpe.atm2-0-76461.0x535af6fe.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:29] Pip: i dunno... i made my own lat-2 10 pixels long, long time ago... [12:29] sladegen: yes. ok. [12:29] thanks [12:29] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:29] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [12:30] Pip: there is mrxvt for tabbed consoles... and urxvt... but i use the former. [12:31] sakura is a nice x terminal [12:31] Did I make it misunderstood ? I meant the non-X terminal [12:31] Reaver_1 (n=m@h253.n4.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [12:31] has tabs [12:31] Virtual console [12:31] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host143-73-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:31] Reaver_1 (n=m@h253.n4.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Client Quit [12:31] Pip: virtual terminal means non-X console... the ability to do alt-arrow means virtual terminal. in X it's called terminal emulation. [12:31] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [12:32] i think Pip has been smoking something [12:32] Then, I was correctly stating [12:32] Pig_Pen, Nah lol [12:32] and the answer is still the same. generally the smaller the better. 80x25 is SMALLL.... [12:33] slackware has 6 terminal windows right out of the box [12:33] i don't have /etc/sysctl.conf is it ok to create it ? [12:33] LnxSlck yep [12:33] ok [12:34] CLT_SEQ_0 (n=seq@r9dn22.net.upc.cz) joined ##slackware. [12:34] console window thingys tty1 thru tty6 [12:34] as a matter of fact i will kill X and use the console for the rest of christmas day :D [12:34] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:35] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] How to decompress a file into a specific location ? [12:35] sado-maso-wackos... [12:35] -C [12:35] Nick change: ROKO__ -> ROKO__-[afk] [12:36] or ( cd /foo/bar && tar xf /path/to/file.tar.gz ) [12:36] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176070079.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:36] Pip, have you ever used Midnight Commander? it is only the most awesome console based tool in the world! [12:36] Pig_Pen, I do [12:36] Well, I haven't get pretty used to it by far [12:36] *got [12:36] i love mc, it is what i use daily [12:37] C-x p [12:37] i can unpack tarballs with it, edit files, i do everything with mc [12:37] lynx broswing! [12:37] mc's pretty slick but the builds in slack at the moment are pretty irritating. [12:38] yup, it will call either lynx or links for html files [12:38] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving" [12:38] It ignores the 'preserve attributes' setting so copying to FAT disks is a no go. [12:38] Pig_Pen: no... using left-right arrow for browsing directories. [12:38] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [12:38] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:38] <3 thunar [12:38] I just built me own, though. [12:38] i build my own, at ftp.gnu.org there is a mc-4.6.2PRE1 pckage [12:39] fat does not support attributes, it is not mc's fault that fat is a crap filesystem [12:40] Pig_Pen: Yes, but it's mc's fault that turning off "preserve attributes" doesn't work :) [12:40] Sometimes I gotta go use other people's computers so I keep a fat disk on me with cygwinn, X mrxvt and various other essentials. [12:41] -n [12:41] Like a lot of music for when these people start talking to me ;) [12:42] LordDoskias (i=Nikisoft@unaffiliated/lorddoskias) left irc: "cold as ice" [12:44] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:44] i'm having troubles setting the kernel semaphores [12:45] can someone help me [12:45] cut -d' ' -f 2 /etc/slackware-version | cut -d. -f 1,2 <<< is that a good way of getting slackware version string? any better ideas? [12:45] kernel.semopm = 100 [12:45] putting that on /etc/sysctl.conf doesn't seem to work [12:45] error: "kernel.semopm" is an unknown key [12:47] LnxSlck: i have kernel.sem [12:47] LnxSlck, why you need to set that? [12:47] it has four values... [12:47] slackytude, i'm installing oracle [12:48] slackytude, they require no less than 100 [12:48] sladegen, kernel.shmmax = 2147483648 [12:48] kernel.semopm = 100 [12:48] net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range = 32768 65000 [12:48] those are the ones i have, the only that doesn't work is semopm [12:49] perhaps it's old terminology [12:49] nope [12:49] bhanson (i=bhanson@isafailure.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:50] Phil-san (n=philipp@p54BFE21D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:50] i've seen quite some places [12:50] they all set the semaphores that way [12:50] NikkoniX (n=seq@r9dn22.net.upc.cz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:51] wd_ (n=wd@75.47.247.84) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:55] bhanson (i=bhanson@isafailure.com) joined ##slackware. [12:55] SVER=($(< /etc/slackware-version)) ; IFS=. SVER=${SVER[1]} ; echo ${SVER[@]} [12:56] rob0, O_o [12:56] 12 1 0 12 1 0 [12:57] I need format MAJOR.MINOR like 12.1 [12:57] still nice, tho [12:57] LnxSlck: "try kernel.sem = semmsl semmns semopm semmni" and it looks like they are good values by default here on my system. [12:57] SVER[0] is major, SVER[1] is minor [12:57] yeah, you echo [@] which is all, right? [12:57] @ is all yes [12:57] error: "kernel.semopm" is an unknown key [12:57] error: "Invalid argument" setting key "kernel.sem" [12:57] nope [12:58] Herman (n=Hermann@h62n4c1o1003.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:58] well i have kernel.sem ... but i spoke too soon. 32 instead of 100 for the third field. [12:58] oops a typo up there [12:59] SVER=($(< /etc/slackware-version)) ; IFS=. SVER=(${SVER[1]}) ; echo ${SVER[@]} [12:59] Merry Christmas Slackers (I know it's late, but the kid had to open his presents and put them together :) ) [12:59] anohter issue: i do i set a user to be able to connect to Xserver ? [12:59] forgot to make the array the second time [12:59] 1 [13:00] output is just 1 now. [13:00] IFS is some sort of field seperator ? [13:00] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@81.193.20.163) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:01] bhanson_ (i=bhanson@isafailure.com) joined ##slackware. [13:01] yes [13:01] but default it's " \t\n" [13:01] or some such [13:01] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [13:01] word seperator. [13:01] $IFS is the default, but if you want to get adventurous, you can change it in scripts for other means [13:02] well, the current doesnt work. [13:02] but it does look nice [13:02] sulo (n=mc@cpe.atm2-0-76461.0x535af6fe.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [13:03] Hm... do 80-wire IDE cables make sense for DVD drives, as opposed to regular 40-wire? [13:03] depends on what else is hooked up, but otherwise it shouldn't matter [13:03] Where you find a 40 wire IDE cable? :) [13:04] some of us still have a box of them as spares [13:04] ;) [13:04] bhanson (i=bhanson@isafailure.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:04] Sure, there are ATA-100 DVD drives. [13:04] My "legacy" machines often have them :) [13:04] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@81.193.20.163) joined ##slackware. [13:05] Hm, so I guess it could make sense... and I guess I have one to spare anyway. [13:05] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:05] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.131.72) joined ##slackware. [13:05] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:05] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:05] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:05] rob0, dig this magic [13:05] foo=$(< /etc/slackware-version); foo="${foo##* }"; echo "${foo%.*}" [13:05] :D hiptobecubic that's a great nick. [13:05] bhanson_ (i=bhanson@isafailure.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:06] :D [13:06] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:06] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:06] so ... i wonder what happens if you are currently using a hard drive and accidentally delete the one and only primary partition that's on it [13:06] Dominus, which is that? [13:06] hiptobecubic: yours [13:06] Dominus, i do many tricks [13:07] Let's see a few. [13:07] slackytude, yup. [13:07] Action: hiptobecubic shits his pants. [13:07] Let's see you do that... without pants! [13:07] Action: TwinReverb beats hiptobecubic for doing that [13:07] not my own work, it was some of the semi-gods on #bash [13:07] That's not a very impressive trick. [13:07] Action: rob0 moves away from hip [13:07] rob0, i didn't say they were good [13:07] why better than my cut stuff [13:07] indeed [13:08] Action: hiptobecubic sits in it. [13:08] TwinReverb, alot of funny stuff :) [13:08] slackytude, in practice, it's not better; but in theory (and in rare cases) it's better to do it in pure bash rather than to invoke a bunch of new processes. [13:08] rob0, yours looks nice too but doesnt gibe me correct output [13:08] how to solve the xhost unable to open display? [13:09] TwinReverb: depends on what you mean by 'delete'. [13:09] gammy, like in cfdisk [13:09] rob0, with process you mean the cut call ? [13:09] delete partition then write table [13:09] LnxSlck: set DISPLAY [13:09] TwinReverb: Then you did not remove the data. [13:09] gammy, could one in theory recover from this while the system is still live? [13:09] sladegen, DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:10.0; export DISPLAY [13:09] sladegen, shouldn't that work? [13:10] TwinReverb: It shouldn't "disappear" either way - unless you added a *new* partition and wrote to that. [13:10] TwinReverb: Which file system is it? ext3? [13:10] hda1 LVM2 [13:10] Meh [13:10] LnxSlck: but you have to allow local connection with xhost from within the X session... [13:10] sladegen, how do i do that? [13:10] TwinReverb: Try googling on it. I think the chances are (afaik) decent. :) [13:10] TwinReverb: I even did it in windows once ;) [13:11] TwinReverb: Oh wait no that was an ntfs partition - in linux. [13:11] TwinReverb: That required a kind of partition "scanner" which did most of the work for you [13:11] TwinReverb: However if you know everything about the partition(where it began and so on) you could probably do it manually. [13:11] LnxSlck: well, you have to login into X. [13:12] TwinReverb: Don't take my word for anything though, look it up :) [13:12] sladegen, well. i'm on X right now [13:12] or be otherwise authorized like with startx. [13:12] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:12] LnxSlck: read 'man xhost' already? [13:13] sladegen, yes.. and countless threads [13:13] Phil-san (n=philipp@p54BFE21D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Can I install slackware from another partition where the ISO CD was located ? [13:14] by default you are using local socket connection... so until you enable local tcp conection do not set display to loop device. [13:14] yes [13:14] Pip, yes [13:14] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] s/display/DISPLAY/ [13:14] slackytude, Do I have to use a floppy disk ? I have read the slackbook today [13:14] sladegen: How would that work? Like, DISPLAY, the env variable, to a loopback? :o [13:15] Pip: Indeed [13:15] gammy: i mean 127.0.0.1 [13:15] sladegen: Oh. Does it need to specified? Surely not? [13:15] gammy: yeaj i know shitty shorthand. [13:15] :o [13:15] Then I don't have a floppy drive [13:16] gammy: by default one does not connect to local X over true tcp/ip. [13:16] alisonken1home: Aye, I'm sure I have a half dozen of the things is a box but since I use the whole house as a box of spares I rarely have to dig in there :) [13:17] sladegen: Yeah I know. Ok, I didn't know he was trying to do that. Silly :) [13:17] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@81.193.20.163) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:17] Pip, sorry, I think I misread your question. you cannot boot from cd? [13:17] fuzzix: for me it's a matter of remembering which box has data cables, spare cards, and power cables [13:18] slackytude, I don't want to burn a disc [13:18] Because I don't have a blank CD on hand right now, going to download the first installation CD image [13:19] Pip: Theoretically you could boot from disk and then take it over via samba [13:19] alisonken1home: could probably do with boxing stuff up but then I'd end up with your problem :) [13:19] It's the local computer [13:19] :) [13:19] Pip needs either a running Linux, or to boot the installer image somehow (which can be done from LILO). [13:20] Hm [13:20] Are you an experienced Unix/Linux person? [13:20] Pip: what about using a usb stick? [13:20] Not quite yet [13:20] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [13:20] then a USB stick is the best idea not requiring a CD [13:20] Not intending [13:21] You could put the data on iso, boot via floppy and then mount the usb drive and choose that as medium [13:21] Pip: mount iso as loop and read this http://copocoto.sdf-eu.org/pub/HOWCAN-I_install_Slackware_lazily.txt (perhaps) [13:21] You cannot boot a 2.6.x kernel from floppy. [13:21] of course the hard parts are missing... [13:21] like LILOing properly. [13:21] I like the ending :D [13:22] Action: sladegen scoffs at noobs. [13:23] perhaps next time i'll be doing it i might add more blackmagic detail. [13:24] rob0, out of curiosity, how could he boot the installer image? [13:25] as an initrd probably ... has been a long time since I tried [13:26] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@81.193.20.163) joined ##slackware. [13:26] arcane stuff [13:26] but there are too many permuations of bootloader setup to "properly" imagine. and grub is icky. [13:26] i found the problem [13:26] CLT_SEQ_0 (n=seq@r9dn22.net.upc.cz) left irc: "left the building" [13:26] i was on openbox i should be on kde or gnome [13:26] would be easier if he put the contents of the iso somewhere, and boot its kernel. might be evil, too [13:27] voodoo solutions, the best kind! [13:27] Phil-san (n=philipp@p54BFE21D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:28] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [13:28] alnayyir (n=Administ@d149-67-186-198.try.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [13:28] okay guys. [13:28] there is no need to boot installed if one has some *nix system already. [13:28] slackware was my second ever distro, a long time ago. [13:28] installer* [13:28] what's it like these days? I got tired of ubuntu crashing on me. [13:28] Bart_S (n=Shan@212-123-176-163.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:29] that's what beatiful about slackware... [13:29] chubs (n=joseph@66-159-173-99.adsl.snet.net) joined ##slackware. [13:29] sladegen: that being? [13:29] alnayyir : what exact kind of answer do you expect? 'it's the same', 'it's different', 'it's blue'? [13:29] alnayyir: it's the same. the best 1990's have to offer ;) [13:29] ananke: oh whoa, your name threw me. [13:30] ananke: I have a strange connection to that name. [13:30] sladegen: other than updated software, slackware installation is the same [13:30] well, how about this, how long will it take me to get mp3 support installed? [13:30] heh [13:31] I'm assuming X is installed and configured for me. >:< [13:31] alnayyir: being able to install slackware from *nix installation without going through some boot cdrom/dvd installation process. [13:31] farabi (n=farabi@host-78-129-2-97.brutele.be) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [13:31] sladegen: I don't like the livecds. call me crazy. [13:31] nvision (n=hub@p4FC0391A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:31] alnayyir : X is installed and configured the same way as it was 10 years ago. [13:32] on slackware that is [13:32] ananke: okay but how long will it take me to get mp3's playing with the tarball pkg management? [13:32] install libmad and off you goo? [13:32] 'tarball package management'? what's that? [13:33] mp3 playing is in default slack [13:33] okay, remove package management [13:33] amarok, audacious, several cli mp3 players [13:33] xine [13:33] alnayyir : slackware doesn't strip out mp3 support [13:33] it's slackwarez really. [13:33] but keep it hush-hush. [13:34] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:34] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:34] what's the most popular apt-get method for slack these days? slapt-get? [13:34] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:34] not like it's that hard to do it on all the other major distros [13:34] alnayyir : there isn't one [13:34] HE SAID THE 'S' WORD!!! [13:34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slapt-get [13:34] alnayyir : again, slackware hasn't changed that much. the package management is essentially the same [13:35] there is slackpkg [13:35] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:35] it's create your own best method that fits your misfitness. [13:35] and slackbuilds.org, with the sbopkg ncurses frontend [13:35] ananke: if you don't mind my asking, how did you come across that name? [13:35] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:35] alnayyir : and we know what slapt-get is. [13:35] alnayyir : a sci-fi novel, 20 years ago. [13:36] ananke: are you a determinist perchance? [13:36] nope [13:37] now, are you interested in asking me out on a date or what? [13:37] ok, let's not get too off-topic... [13:37] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [13:37] Action: sladegen gurgles. [13:37] ananke: I don't think you're my preferred gender, taking a statistical guess here. [13:37] nicely put [13:37] LMAO!!! [13:37] alnayyir : valid assumption [13:38] well then, sorry to disappoint you, but no dinner for you. [13:38] no disappointment, relief only [13:38] Miroku (i=ESAi5F@c-67-166-1-173.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] *snaps fingers* I bet you even had a special pink condom picked out too. :) [13:38] i was hoping you wouldn't ask me for my favourite color [13:39] alnayyir : why, is that something you expect from your dates? [13:39] its a shame, really. you two seem to get along just fine [13:39] slackytude: :D [13:39] love knows neither nationality nor gender :P [13:39] downloading the 12.2 DVD. [13:40] slackytude: it's pretty hard to love a mongolian. [13:42] lots of people are hard or impossible to love, politicias, lawyers, the lice infested dirty homeless to name a few [13:42] Pig_Pen: imagine a lawyer-cum-congressman lice infested homeless mongolian! [13:42] not even a mother could... [13:43] yowza, break out the DDT [13:43] sharizard (n=sharizar@adsl-69-211-97-216.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] superGear (i=superGea@c-67-166-1-173.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:43] gyroscope_altern (n=master@81.214.144.64) joined ##slackware. [13:44] Pig_Pen: mmmhmm, delicious cancer. [13:44] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [13:45] wd (n=wd@75.47.247.84) joined ##slackware. [13:47] gah [13:48] i installed debian and i was disappointed.. slack's install process is much more logical and efficient.. besides grub doesnt work [13:48] dios_mio: really? My issues with debian mostly involved getting xorg to work properly. [13:48] install 10.2 on a laptop hd using a laptop to ide adapter,i see orinoco_cs.o.gz in /lib/modules/2.4.31/kernel/drivers/net/wireless.. i need to gunzip this first right in order to use as a mod right? what about all the other mod's.gz.. leave them as is? [13:48] alnayyir, i couldnt get that far [13:49] or can i just go do menuconfig and choose orinoco and kernel will recognize .gz for me. [13:49] dios_mio: well I'm trying slackware again after a 9 year hiatus. [13:50] alnayyir cool [13:50] alnayyir, what else did you use during that time? [13:50] dios_mio: debian, redhat, fedora, ubuntu, linux mint. not in that order. [13:50] the latter two started crashing severely [13:50] I refuse to use an RPM distro, and fedora made it difficult to get mp3 support rolling [13:51] debian was just a PITA. [13:51] dios_mio: those are just what I used regularly, I've tried at least 70-100 distros at some point or another. [13:52] wd: menuconfig is for compiling kernel. it has nothing to do with binary modules in /lib/modules. perhaps you should look into /etc/rc.d/rc.modules [13:52] to have it loaded at boot. [13:54] sladegen: sorry,i thought i had to compile the kernel to use the orinoco mod. r u saying i can just reboot and insmod orinoco even though it's in a .gz format? [13:55] wd: all 2.4 are .gz [13:55] and it's modprobe [13:55] sladegen: wow. all. ok. modprobe,gotcha. [13:56] is slackware using 2.6 these days yet or what? [13:56] yes [13:56] exclusivly since 12.1 iirc [13:56] 2.6.25 [13:56] awesome. [13:56] but who is using default slackware kernel...? [13:56] me [13:56] me [13:57] Action: slackytude raises hand [13:57] lazy bums! [13:57] Action: slackytude is just a slacker [13:57] nope - just use generic and all is well [13:58] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:58] sladegen: if my old lap will take it i will migrate. i had deb sarge on this and i tried their 2.6 and it wouldn't reboot. lol. [13:58] Herman (n=Hermann@h-158-16.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:58] whos using the 2.6.28 kernel? [13:58] sladegen: maybe it's too much low ram [13:58] Pig_Pen, that came out just yesterday no? [13:59] yup [13:59] you better wait until xorg and nvidia & ati update their graphics drivers to use the new features [13:59] wd: dunno. use what works. but you could use any linux distro and make your own kernel fit for your hardware. [13:59] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@81.193.20.163) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:00] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:00] nullboy is [14:00] it worked fine with beta drivers from nvidia, he said [14:00] sladegen: never seen .gz behind mods.. i'm hoping i pop this laptop hd in the lap and reboot and be able to modprobe. [14:01] what exactly are the graphical improvements in 2.6.28? [14:02] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Connection timed out [14:02] kernel takes responsibility for memory managment of video ram [14:02] as opposed to? [14:02] user space driver...? [14:03] and this is an improvement because? [14:03] as opposed to everybody doing it their own bloody way [14:03] single interface [14:03] it's FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASTER! [14:03] thank you. [14:03] now was that hard? [14:04] its a summary of some reading time, so all in all, yes, it was hard :D [14:04] gyroscope_altern (n=master@81.214.144.64) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:04] firebird619 (i=1000@173-17-139-201.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [14:04] :D [14:06] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_Execution_Manager [14:06] comments on this slashdot are quite enlightening too [14:06] http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/12/24/2124209 [14:06] well, some of them [14:07] I'm reading the slackware comment thread. [14:07] er [14:07] slashdot [14:07] Channel flood from alnayyir -- kicking [14:07] wtf. [14:07] alnayyir kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [14:07] alnayyir (n=Administ@d149-67-186-198.try.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [14:07] moxer (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:07] okay... [14:07] hey how do i edit my user groups? [14:08] man -k group [14:08] wd (n=wd@75.47.247.84) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:08] gpasswd is oft missed feature. [14:10] how do i actually figure out what my usb mount point is [14:11] huh? [14:11] mogunus, mount [14:11] moxer, command: mount [14:14] argh doesnt work a [14:15] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:15] elbeardmorez_ (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:15] k_wolf (n=wolf@201009036190.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:15] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:16] hello :) [14:17] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@81.193.20.163) joined ##slackware. [14:18] Hello everyone. In xfce, the terminal only shows bash-3.1 instead of, for example firebird@slackware. How can I change this? Also, is there a way to get fortune to show in xfce's terminal as it does in KDE's Konsole? [14:19] SOUL_OF_R00T (n=leo@20158129187.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:19] LnxSlck_ (n=LnxSlck@81.193.20.163) joined ##slackware. [14:22] firebird619, http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/shell-scripting/ch02s02.html [14:22] gm152 (n=gm@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:22] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [14:22] slackytude: Thanks. [14:23] firebird619, the shells openend in X arent login shells, that is they dont read ~.profile, only ~/.bashrc [14:23] you could do a bash -l to make it start a login shell [14:24] the better way to do it is to have a good .bashrc, tho [14:24] gm152 (n=gm@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:25] SOUL_OF_R00T (n=leo@20158129187.user.veloxzone.com.br) left ##slackware ("problems houston..."). [14:25] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:25] slackytude: Ok, Thanks. I just would like to get it so it looks like Konsole does (fortune & firebird@slackware). Does that link you gave also describe how to get fortune to show up? [14:26] Well, I've experienced some troubles after upgrade slackware to current. The problem is about video configuration. After use Xorg , my console video setup lost the color quality (looks like 256 colors). Has anyone experienced something liked? [14:26] Nick change: ROKO__-[afk] -> ROKO__ [14:26] firebird619, not in so many words, no [14:26] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [14:27] slackytude: Ok, I can search more on google for that. Any site you know off the top of your head that does show how to get furtune in Terminal? How does Konsole do it? [14:27] firebird619, create a .bashrc and have the line: source /etc/profile in it [14:27] by callling the fortune programm [14:28] slackytude: Ok, Thank you for the help. 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[14:46] moxer (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:47] mox, why are you running "mount -a"? [14:47] :< [14:47] yeah it crashes after he's been using X and returns to console mode [14:48] Framebuffer console color depth is generally set in lilo.conf [14:48] rob0: need to mount my sata HDD [14:48] and thats what a guy told me to do [14:48] yeah but svgalib has a long list of drivers to choose [14:48] in the config [14:49] Mox, this guy is telling you to read slackbook, and maybe man pages for mount(1) and fstab(5). [14:49] dive: I'm using now the initial video mode after install. The trouble is the same. About svgalib.config, I'm trying it now. [14:49] k_wolf, I would try some of the other drivers in /etc/vga/libvga.config [14:49] kw, play around with fbset(8) too [14:50] dive: yeah, I'm using huge.s now. I was afraid about other incorrect modules in this installation. [14:50] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:51] i don't think you need touch the kernel [14:51] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [14:52] in /etc/vga/libvga.config you can choose chipset by uncommenting one of the 'chipset' lines [14:52] try vesa maybe - that seems to be a safe choice for most systems [14:52] except on very old systems [14:52] rob0: nvmd :] i mounted my sata hdd anyway [14:53] who is a college football fan? http://pastebin.com/d4637205 [14:56] rworkman: you around ? [14:56] The-Croupier (n=The-Crou@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:57] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060019d1f79250.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:09] Bugz_ (n=jturning@adsl-75-42-57-217.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) returned to ##slackware. [15:09] Mad_Dud (i=1000@c108-226.icpnet.pl) returned to ##slackware. [15:09] boojit (n=boojit@gw.carter.to) returned to ##slackware. [15:09] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) returned to ##slackware. [15:09] Dominus (i=unices@ip5652ade4.speed.planet.nl) returned to ##slackware. [15:09] o.o [15:09] no shit tomaw [15:10] If I have additional apps in /opt and I add /opt to my path, it searches the executable files recursive right when It has to start it ? [15:10] say you have an external hard drive that is being given /dev/sdc but there are literally no other sd* devices (whether usb or scsi, etc) can you tell udev or hal to make it hda once again? [15:10] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@38.99.247.88) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:10] gotta love SplitNode [15:10] say you have an external hard drive that is being given /dev/sdc but there are literally no other sd* devices (whether usb or scsi, etc) can you tell udev or hal to make it hda once again? [15:11] TwinReverb, yeah, you can make a udev rule for it [15:11] NuMaStresa, I dont understand your question [15:11] Tidus_ (n=tidus@d4-250.rb5.clm.centurytel.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:11] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [15:12] foureyes879 (n=theron@97-113-181-35.tukw.qwest.net) left ##slackware. [15:12] If I install most of my apps in /opt ( a separate partition) , I only have to add /opt to my $PATH and it starts automatically the program regardless of the directory in which the app is [15:12] Is that right ? [15:12] yes [15:12] thanks slackytude [15:12] it will look into you PATH for your app [15:12] however [15:12] ... [15:13] it will execute the first app it finds with that name [15:13] slackytude: yeah [15:13] chubs (n=joseph@66-159-173-99.adsl.snet.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [15:13] I removed gimp and know I'm trying to install the 2.6.3 version [15:13] nullboy, works? [15:13] No package 'gegl' found [15:13] Linux neutrino 2.6.28-RAS #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Dec 24 17:20:33 PST 2008 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [15:13] slackytude: works fine [15:13] I installed gegl in /opt/gegl (from source) and still it says that it can't find it [15:14] k_wolf (n=wolf@201009036190.user.veloxzone.com.br) got lost in the net-split. [15:14] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@38.99.247.88) joined ##slackware. [15:14] NuMaStresa, thats the output of configure? [15:14] nessundorma (n=mike@host171-56-dynamic.104-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:14] if you have nvidia you will need the beta version of the driver. I'm using 180.17 [15:14] I guess the problem is that I don't have /opt in my $PATH and I should create a .bashrc with the path , relogin and it will work [15:14] right ? [15:15] yes slackytude [15:15] no [15:15] like I've said gegl is in /opt/gegl [15:15] PATH is for executables. configure is looking for libs [15:15] so I should use an environment variable when I install it [15:15] right ? [15:15] add it to /etc/ld.so.conf [15:15] no [15:15] NuMaStresa, the programs don't use PATH as the users do [15:16] you will need to add a new path to /etc/ld.so.conf [15:16] slackytude: DAMN [15:16] you beat me [15:16] Action: slackytude nods [15:16] King of the hill, baby [15:16] then re-run ldconfig [15:16] nice, I found it, I have 3 more path in there [15:16] oh jesus. rtorrent doesn't do per torrent limiting either? What is this crap... [15:17] do i really have to go get deluge? [15:17] thanks for the tips, I'm starting to understand the system better now [15:17] how can i tell which kernel im using? [15:17] uname -a [15:17] No package 'gegl' found [15:17] weird [15:17] and I did a ldconfig [15:18] should I add /opt/gegl or /opt ? [15:18] slackytude: thanx... is this the one i should be using? 2.6.27.7-smp #2 SMP [15:19] k_wolf (n=wolf@201009036190.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:19] crudo (n=0xdead@189-87-68-209.rec.megazon.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:19] Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you [15:19] installed software in a non-standard prefix. [15:19] NuMaStresa, is there a lib in /opt or /opt/gegl [15:19] yes /opt/gegl has a /lib directory in it [15:19] use that [15:19] ok [15:20] you could try to just manually setup configure with the proper paths, trial and error [15:20] heh, yeah [15:20] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:20] haqe17 (n=Button_h@host86-139-102-44.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:20] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:20] pkg-config --libs --cflags gegl [15:20] same error [15:20] whats the output of the above command? [15:21] can I paste here or should I use a pastebin ? [15:22] Action: rworkman has gimp-2.6.3 for 12.2 in his repo. [15:22] Action: rworkman goes afk again to be with family. [15:22] http://pastebin.com/m354083d8 [15:23] seasons greetings everyone [15:23] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [15:24] NuMaStresa, right, now try to find gegl.pc [15:24] Id do a updatedb and a locate gegl.pc [15:24] I thought at the same thing, what do I do after that ? [15:25] NuMaStresa: see http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/ for babl, gegl, and gimp packages for Slackware 12.2. [15:25] dios_mio (i=test@88.241.129.161) left irc: [15:25] you set a PKG_CONFIG_PATH environ variable with the path of that file [15:25] thanks for the tips rworkman [15:25] NuMaStresa: if you insist on doing it yourself, then first, you need to understand how pkgconfig works. [15:26] Action: NuMaStresa reading the man page [15:26] Heya rworkman [15:26] FriedBob: ola [15:27] 'ow goes? [15:27] Pretty well... Anyway, sorry to run off, but family calls :/ I'll be back later, I hope [15:27] PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH:/path/to/gegl [15:28] probably a export PKG_CONFIG_PATH too [15:29] LordAnta (n=alex@Pc-4397.NA.Home.Ran.Ro) joined ##slackware. [15:29] weird , I guess I would use rworkman's packages [15:29] Action: slackytude nods [15:29] whats weird? [15:29] Marla's hot .. [15:29] And I say that with all the respect in the world [15:29] I still get the same error [15:29] Marla? [15:30] so what F/OSS software is there to manage digital pictures? [15:30] pkg-config --libs --cflags gegl will still not find gegl after setting and exporting PKG path? [15:30] rworkman wife ... [15:30] vinnie_ (n=vinnie__@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "Leaving" [15:30] gphoto2, fotoxx, gimp [15:30] makenna said to rworkman: dady i'm hungry LOL [15:30] yes slackytude , I use rworkman's packages [15:31] fotoxx does not come with slack, but it can be easily built from source, it is specifically made for photos from digital cameras [15:31] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.129.161) joined ##slackware. [15:31] I'm interested in learning how to build packages myself for slackware, any good tutorial I can read ? [15:32] I wont to make a .tgz for globus toolkit [15:32] NuMaStresa: Slackbuild.org has some good info [15:32] thanks for the tip FriedBob [15:32] Or is it slackbuilds.org? I can never remember [15:32] man makepkg [15:32] ALso check out the wiki and the slackbook, links are in the opic [15:32] Weird.. the sound quality for some reason is very crappy.. [15:33] cool, it works, thanks rworkman [15:33] and slackytude for you patience [15:33] I installed debian and I found out it is inferior to slackware [15:33] no sweat [15:33] Action: FriedBob goes back to listening to Suicide is Painless and random anime themes and j/k/sugar-pop songs and cleaning his pipes [15:33] wish I knew why it wasnt working, tho [15:33] should find the .pc file [15:34] oh well [15:34] NuMaStresa, did you do export ? [15:34] yes slackytude [15:35] Ok, this is weird. The sound quality is very poor. Rockbox sound way clearer than the SND_HDA_INTEL driver Maybe my alsa config is just too screwed up, but I didn't mess with it at all. [15:35] *sounds way [15:35] Nick change: ROKO__ -> ROKO__-[afk] [15:36] There is nothing quite like a freshly cleaned and sweetened pipe. [15:37] k_wolf (n=wolf@201009036190.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:37] One down, 4 to go. [15:37] here ya go ... | [15:39] NuMaStresa, did you do the export in the same term where you did configure? [15:40] rob0: That looks a little stale to me. [15:43] moxer_ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:44] moxer (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:45] FriedBob: why do you have five pipes when one will suffice? [15:46] CaptObviousman: I actually need at least 2 more, so each one can gave a full week's rest between uses. [15:46] they need rest? [15:46] are you anthromorphisizing your pipes again [15:47] Besides, each one is different and smokes different. I have 2 straight ones, one of which is a corncob, an 1/8th bend, a "normal" half bend and a full bend with a massive bowl. [15:47] CaptObviousman: Not anthromorphisizing them, just want to get the most of them. [15:47] I [15:47] Meh. [15:48] I'd love to get a few meerschaum pipes, but those are too rich for my blood right now, and even if I had the money, I couldn't justify it to my wife [15:48] slackytude yes [15:49] I managed to install it using a .tgz [15:50] *sigh* [15:50] http://imagebin.org/34369 check this out, why are the fonts overlaping like this? i think slashdot's webmasters are getting lazy [15:50] moxer_ (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:50] I have done a complete install of Slackware 12.2. Soon after the install I did a "df" command and saw the disk space used is about 4.3 GB. After that, the only items I have installed are VLC (Media Player) and VMware tools. Now the disk space by "df" command shows the disk usage is at 8.3 GB. [15:50] Pig_Pen, get that too in opera [15:51] slackytude: Just chose your battles wisely and know when to fight and when to not waste your time. Makes it a lot less likely to get burn out. [15:51] lazy webmasters [15:51] I did a slackpg upgrade and updated firefox and mkinitrd. [15:51] 3 pipes clean, 2 to go. [15:51] they have been adding features faster than they can debug them [15:51] For these updates, why is the disk space gone up by 4 GB? [15:52] I do have disk space on the system. But my curiosity is where did all the diskspace go? [15:53] kleanchap: I got hungry, and diskspace was the perfect ending to my Christmas dinner. [15:54] kleanchap: du -sh /tmp [15:55] nullboy: You are a genius!! 3.5GB [15:56] ;) [15:56] nullboy: Oi oi! [15:56] How do I cleanup the /tmp during system shutdown? [15:56] kleanchap: you can add something in rc.local_shutdown [15:56] rm -rf /tmp/* [15:56] kleanchap: don't rm -rf /tmp/* in rl4 though! [15:57] do it in rl1 [15:57] I will let the rc.X script do the cleanup before unmount the partition. [15:57] nullboy: What breaks if you do it in RL4, and did you learn this from experience? [15:57] FriedBob: kde keeps a bunch of sockets and pipe type things in there [15:58] they are temp though, you'd need to reboot or kde can freak out after rm -rf /tmp/* [15:58] Ahh. WOuldn't matter to me - I don't have KDE or X installed. [15:58] yeah [15:58] in that case no worries [15:58] just it wouldn't hurt to check check out /tmp before rm'ing though [15:58] vinnie_ (n=vinnie__@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [15:59] vinnie_ (n=vinnie__@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: Client Quit [16:00] Tomorrow should be interesting. I'm gonna be pretty much the only one in the office. I'm just hoping that the phones really are dead so I can get some of the other projects I need to work on done. [16:01] FriedBob: play with leenuchs! [16:01] I do that at home, don't have a reason to at work [16:01] another nice idea would be to make tmp a ramdisk [16:01] fresh at every reboot [16:02] katmio (n=juanma@89.130.6.11) joined ##slackware. [16:02] i adjusted the fonts, it fixed it, but now i have to wear reading glasses, i like large fonts!!! [16:03] I need a pipe stand, and also a bigger humidor. Anyone want to buy me one? :D [16:03] LordAnta (n=alex@Pc-4397.NA.Home.Ran.Ro) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [16:04] i can get big fonts and it does not overlap if i disable page styles, but it looks like a website from 1995 [16:05] FriedBob: didnt santa bring you those things for xmas? [16:05] Pig_Pen: What about if you specif your own styles? [16:05] Pig_Pen: No, I got some tools and an R/C Avalanch though [16:06] maybe i should venture in to a style sheet that will omit those tag lines that are overlapping [16:06] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.144.113) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [16:06] Pig_Pen: Download their style sheet, fix it and make the page use thefixed version. [16:06] all i got was a cherry pie the wife baked, it sure was tasty with a cup of hot coffee [16:06] yeah [16:06] My wife made a peach pie today [16:07] how would i get thier style sheet? save page as,,, then dig it out of the slashdot_files folder? [16:07] View source and look for the links to it [16:07] view source -> wget [16:08] ok [16:08] Then make a diff and submit it to them [16:09] lol, you think they would listen to me, they would laugh [16:09] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl11-60-12.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:09] core-tidied.css [16:10] SUbmit it as an article - how to fix /.'s busted CSS since their webmasters are too big of bums to to do it themself [16:10] Is quicktime for linux ? [16:10] too much work, i guess i will just wear reading glasses when visiting slashdot [16:10] Pig_Pen: Or do like I did years ago... stop visiting [16:10] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:10] i did submit that screenshot to slashdot/idle [16:10] Pip: I think there is a version, but I don't know 100% [16:11] i use jgnash to balance my checkbook, its a java financial app [16:11] Pip, dont know. I use mplayer to view em [16:11] I've got something on my phone for it, I need to start using it though. [16:12] oh, quicktime, i was thinking quicken duh! [16:12] k_wolf (n=wolf@201009036190.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:12] mplayer with the essential codecs package will play quicktime [16:12] I need to find some CLI PIM to sync my phone to my SLackbox. Just haven't gotten around to it yet, [16:13] what about the quicktime plugins for firefox ? [16:13] mplayer will basically play anything [16:13] mplayer plugin [16:13] Has anyone tred syncing their Centro or other Palm device to a Slackbox? Preferably w/o X [16:13] otherwise, you get xine [16:13] Action: slackytude shudders [16:14] xine sucks big time [16:14] vlc for the win [16:14] i dont know what Pat V. sees in xine [16:15] it always worked ok for me, sometimes a bit buggy depending on the window manager i use it in (menu flickering in fvwm) [16:15] its good for some stuff. amarok uses it as output engine for example [16:16] probably that mplayer needs xine-lib (iirc) [16:16] TwinReverb, for what? [16:16] jmjjg (n=cbuffin@AMontpellier-258-1-33-184.w90-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:16] i use mplayer and when in kde i use kmplayer as a frontend [16:17] gxine crashed all the time [16:17] sucks big time [16:18] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) left irc: "Gone" [16:18] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [16:19] there are a lot of gnome apps that really suck, gnome as strayed away from the unix/linux philosophy, gnome has become a huge complicated behemoth [16:19] gnome? [16:19] what is that? [16:19] katmio (n=juanma@89.130.6.11) left irc: "leaving" [16:20] i am glad Pat quit including gnome with slack [16:20] Pig_Pen, not really [16:20] having choices is always nice [16:20] LnxSlck: gxine is a good test platform thingy. [16:20] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-7-116.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:21] limac, well i prefer vlc [16:21] and mplayer too [16:21] limac, its a bug reporting tool [16:21] i have not really liked gnome since gnome-1.4 was current [16:21] Pig_Pen, i don't use it, but i know there are a lot of people that like it [16:22] i am sure there are plenty of suckers er *users that like gnome :D [16:22] i am not one of them [16:22] Pig_Pen, liking gnome doesn't make them suckers [16:22] one of the things i like about gnu/linux is the power of choice [16:23] i only rarely use kde, the wife & kids love KDE, i am perfectly happy with my custom build of fvwm and custom .fvwm2rc [16:23] kinda got removed a little, when pat removed gnome from slack [16:23] yup, the power of choice, and i choose to not like gnome :D [16:24] k_wolf_ (n=wolf@201009057239.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:24] lol [16:24] Action: LnxSlck mindf#ck... you'll sh#t bricks when you see it... http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1230239978705.gif [16:25] eww! lol, in the bellybutton with a fatty [16:26] man [16:26] internet just get's weirder and weirder [16:27] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:32] k_wolf (n=wolf@201009036190.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:33] what package directory is fluxbox in? [16:33] nessundorma (n=mike@host171-56-dynamic.104-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Leaving" [16:33] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [16:34] package directory ? [16:34] I would assume xap [16:34] X? [16:34] xap ok [16:34] But I don't know, since I don't install X [16:34] is that in cd 1? [16:35] Yeah, I think so. [16:35] do you have CD1? [16:35] surely [16:35] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:35] Did you look? [16:36] no [16:36] rob0: Did you really have to ask? [16:39] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [16:40] Yule be in tears at Christmas... Video: Worst present ever - parents give child 360 box filled with clothes... [16:41] Hmm, I still have my 360 box... Not kids (yet) though. :/ [16:43] http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2069184.ece [16:43] nvision (n=hub@p4FC0391A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:43] i would NEVER buy an xbox, if i was to buy a game console it would have to be a nintendo or sony [16:44] I have an xbox, a 360 and an Atari 2600. My wife has every Nintendo and Gameboy except for SuperNintendo. [16:44] poor kid looks like he lost his only friend [16:44] Nick change: ROKO__-[afk] -> ROKO__ [16:45] i just have a playstation2, i did have a nintendo64 but when i got the sony i gave the 64 to my nephew [16:47] BBL, time to get caught up on Bleach [16:47] i basically declaired a war againt microsoft, a war of attrition at every oppurtunity i always buy a competing product or advise others to do the same [16:51] Pig_Pen, indeed, Microsoft is evil but I think you would have much to gain if you would be os agnostic [16:51] and the products are not that bad [16:52] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) joined ##slackware. [16:52] nope, i refuse to show any support for microsoft, they are just too evil and dirty & underhanded [16:53] It's all about business Pig_Pen , I don't think that linux will remain as pure as it is and slowly it will adopt the same marketing principles [16:53] thats why I do all my shopping with WeylandYutami [16:54] alisn91 (n=Alisson@189.81.53.100) joined ##slackware. [16:54] any ideas what I should add to xorg.conf to get the scrool working for the mouse ? [16:54] if Linux gets like microsoft i would drop it like a hot potato and use something else, but i doubt that will ever happen [16:55] I guess we will leave and see, opensuse and ubuntu are already showing "signs" ... imho [16:55] http://pastebin.com/d54b54732 this should get your mousewheel to scroll [16:55] thanks Pig_Pen [16:56] and i never use either suse or ubuntard [16:56] There was a time when I was thinking at freebsd and leave linux the f *** out [16:57] hahaha Ubuntard..... [16:57] thats funny!! 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[17:02] ok heres the thing - i need to test /dev/input/mice for activity in bash [17:02] and also keyboard although i havent found which dev that is yet [17:02] need it for a screen blanking daemon [17:03] sharizard (n=sharizar@adsl-69-211-97-216.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:03] but i cant just cat it cos /mice cos it stops all other signals getting through like keyboard [17:04] and im not a whole lot sure what i can do with cat since bash will get stuck in there and wont let me comoare it with anything... [17:04] ideas? [17:04] I would suggest looking in the source code of other things which do the same thing. [17:04] yeah i though that [17:04] xscreensaver [17:04] of couse, cat and mice dont work well together ::P [17:04] rain(6) is a console screen saver [17:04] maybe [17:04] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.131.72) joined ##slackware. [17:05] slackytude, :o [17:05] rain eh? never heard of that [17:05] or use xev for keycode abd xmodmap or xbindkeys [17:05] no X [17:05] console only [17:05] tss maybe ported from bsd [17:05] oh, rain doesn't seem to work like a regular screen saver [17:05] but rain sounds like it would be worth looking at [17:06] cmatrix! [17:06] not sure if it works in console tho. [17:06] yuh [17:06] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [17:06] Bart_S (n=Shan@212-123-176-163.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Action: sladegen runs it in borderless, fully maximized terminal emulator ;) [17:07] rob0, in which way is it different? [17:07] anyone try Crux-2.5 ? i had it installed and whenever i startx the mouse & keyboard would quit working, the keyboard worked fine in the console, even in xorg.0.log it said it was disabling the mouse & keyboard with no explanation why [17:07] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving" [17:08] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [17:08] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [17:08] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.129.161) joined ##slackware. [17:08] if I am using fluxbox, what could be wrong if I get many lines like this in my screen after closing X "Failed to read: session.screen0.iconbar.usePixmap" ? [17:10] dive: theres a few old ones here http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Toys/Screensavers/ [17:10] ok [17:11] i have the manpage for rain but no rain command - what gives? its part of bsd games i think which are installed [17:11] try the full path [17:12] sharizard (n=sharizar@adsl-69-211-60-211.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] /usr/games/rain [17:12] LnxSlck_ (n=LnxSlck@bl7-83-2.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:13] ah [17:14] right but it doesnt stop at keyboard/mouse activity [17:14] pity [17:14] NuMaStresa (i=1000@unaffiliated/numastresa) joined ##slackware. [17:14] Vic1ous (n=Vic1ous@75-120-151-45.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:14] weird, I managed to break my xorg.conf, I generated a new one and still looking for a way to fix the scrool [17:15] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) left irc: "Gone" [17:16] pupit1 (n=p@93.86.1.2) joined ##slackware. [17:16] ncmatrix is also a nice screensaver but no mouse poll [17:17] should I use the jdk from extras or download one from sun ? [17:17] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:17] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:17] NuMaStresa, depends if you absolutlely need a particular version for some app to work [17:18] thanks dive [17:18] if not use the slackware package on dvd/web [17:18] NuMaStresa: what type of mouse is it? PS2 wheelmouse?? [17:18] but installpkg would be lazier. [17:18] superGear (i=ESAi5F@c-67-166-1-173.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [17:18] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [17:18] usb mouse? [17:18] usb mouse, connected to a laptop [17:18] yes Pig_Pen [17:18] hmm [17:19] ircza (n=mamoth@89-139-159-150.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. [17:19] look in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules i think there is an entry for a usb mouse in it [17:19] ircza (n=mamoth@89-139-159-150.bb.netvision.net.il) left ##slackware. [17:19] o0 [17:19] thanks Pig_Pen [17:19] usually psmouse is it [17:19] what sort of laptop? [17:20] dell inspiron 1501 [17:20] and do you use synaptics touchpad? [17:20] I don't think it matters [17:20] it can [17:20] yes dive , and it works (the touchpad) [17:20] jmjjg (n=cbuffin@AMontpellier-258-1-33-184.w90-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:20] the mouse works too but I can't use the scrol [17:20] scrol or scrool ? [17:20] synaptics touchpad will insist on psmouse module being loaded with no options in /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse [17:20] Action: NuMaStresa confused, goooogle ... [17:20] the touchpad could be stealing focus from the usbmouse [17:21] scroll [17:21] thanks dive [17:21] no if it moves [17:21] ya [17:21] ok [17:21] its just a tweak of xorg.conf i would think [17:21] any ideas what I should modify ? [17:21] gnubien (n=e@97.100.252.184) joined ##slackware. [17:22] usually ZAxisMapping i seem to recall [17:22] using /dev/input/mice as device file in xorg.conf should work. [17:22] but you will need try out a few different numbers to see what works [17:23] or so i hear. [17:23] ie [17:23] Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" [17:23] for example [17:23] thanks for the tips guys [17:23] if you have three non-scroll buttons... [17:23] and when you get a working xorg.conf, rip it out and nail it to the bathroom wall ;) [17:23] I have 2 buttons and a scroll [17:24] :) [17:24] 3 4, then... [17:25] NuMaStresa: does your scroll work as a button with a down press? [17:25] the scroll is classed as a button? [17:25] that's #3 [17:25] yes up and down scroll are buttons [17:25] yup [17:25] in firefox it opens a new tab if a click on a link [17:25] scroll up and scroll down are each buttons and wheel push down is a button too [17:25] 4 5 [17:25] 4 5 ? [17:25] Action: sladegen nodes. [17:25] press down on the wheel, does it act as a button when pressed? [17:25] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl11-60-12.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:25] then it is 4 5 [17:25] instead of 3 4 [17:25] dont node in here man [17:26] disgusting [17:26] :) [17:26] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [17:26] sladegen: omg put your node away! [17:26] Action: sladegen sdrools. [17:26] ok, I'll try 4 5 [17:26] Action: sladegen puts his noodle away. [17:27] good thing, i was about to get a fly swatter out [17:27] s/noodle/mini-elow macaroni/ [17:27] Weird , I have Option "Protocol" "PS/2" I guess I should change that to usb right ? [17:27] or auto ? [17:27] i use auto [17:27] NuMaStresa: just try IMPS/2 [17:27] IMPS/2 runs perfectly ;) [17:28] Action: sladegen votes for autobustruckthingy. [17:28] Action: NuMaStresa brb [17:28] NuMaStresa (i=1000@unaffiliated/numastresa) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:29] NuMaStresa (i=1000@unaffiliated/numastresa) joined ##slackware. [17:30] it worked, I used auto [17:30] thanks guys, great comunity [17:31] yeah, it would be even better if it all worked out of the box. [17:31] well, that's the philosophy of slackware, stay close to the upstream right and the original concept of the author [17:31] sladegen, no box is alike - will never happen [17:31] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:32] ok who said try tss? [17:32] gotta try something brb [17:32] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:32] tss? [17:32] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.75) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:33] gonna mix ncmatrix with tss and make a console screen saver [17:33] yeah for screensaver [17:33] im sure someone mentioned it [17:33] dios_mio (n=test@88.241.129.161) left irc: "leaving" [17:33] well it does keyboard polling but not mouse but thats a good start [17:33] 081225-23:05:49 < Rat409> tss maybe ported from bsd [17:33] been a while since i done any c though... [17:34] thanks Rat409 [17:34] tss works [17:34] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [17:35] its a roundabout way of fixing the broken screen powerdown with my T42 anyway [17:35] but its better than nothing [17:36] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:36] smeding (i=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:36] lyecdevf3 (n=lyecdevf@lk.84.20.246.189.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:36] Bart_S (n=Shan@212-123-176-163.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Connection timed out [17:37] perhaps stop using framebuffer, screen blanking works in pure text or it's the other way around. but then you'll be stuck with 80x25 or some such... [17:39] most video cards will do larger text mode, try booting with "vga=ask" and scan. [17:40] "vga=extended" is 80x50, bet that's hideous on a widescreen [17:41] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "GONE!" [17:41] smaller font might help too. [17:41] lando (n=lando@c-75-74-143-33.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:42] kitche (n=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [17:44] wow, eclipse load in a few seconds on slackware [17:49] sherique (n=se@69.150.48.196) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:49] NuMaStresa, that reminds me.. i got to install it [17:51] :) [17:53] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [17:54] most distros use the gcj eclipse or icedtea eclipse by default now I found them to be slow [17:55] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-142-227.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:55] which reminds me to port icetea still [17:58] By default a fresh instalation of slackware contains gcj ? [17:58] NuMaStresa, yes [17:59] considering it's part of GCC [17:59] how do I know if I use gcj or sun's own stuff ? [18:01] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.0x535bd556.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:02] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-227361.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:02] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.144.113) joined ##slackware. [18:02] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) left irc: "Gone" [18:03] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-227361.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:03] Bart_S (n=Shan@212-123-176-163.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:06] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.17.211) joined ##slackware. [18:08] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.114.16.226.plusnet.thn-ag3.dyn.plus.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:09] Nick change: ROKO__ -> ROKO__-[afk] [18:09] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [18:11] hello there! [18:12] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left ##slackware. [18:13] that was quick [18:14] well guys, time for a fresh VM and an RC1 build of my PAM disaster ;) [18:14] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.45) left irc: "Bye Bye" [18:14] disater? [18:15] thought it was working well? [18:15] some people might call a project that replaces or adds 19 packages to a stock system a disaster [18:15] oh it works great [18:15] more like a "crime" or "heresy" [18:15] lol [18:15] yep [18:15] slackware-crimes.org [18:16] sharizard (n=sharizar@adsl-69-211-60-211.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:16] with PAM, gui managment tools and dependency tracking [18:16] and binary packets [18:16] that's right, and 10 firmware blobs too [18:16] nullboy: Once you get all of Slack PAM'ed, can you let me know hoi goes, and offer some advice on doing the same? I want to play with SELinux some more, and that's one of the irs steps [18:17] yeah, lots of closed binary blobs [18:17] FriedBob: i have SELinux libs setup with PAM already! [18:17] but i don't use any SELinux pam rules myself [18:17] nullboy: I've never quite been able to make it that far. :/ [18:17] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060019d1f79250.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] FriedBob: i'll have example scripts, many i found and used from other good guys, audited, modified, used them [18:18] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060019d1f79250.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:18] and i also have build order list and stuff like that [18:19] Got any of it in a web / downloadable / shareable form? [18:19] not yet [18:19] i will soon [18:20] I'd be very interested once you do. [18:20] i just don't have enough space with my pacbell account [18:20] How much room do you need? [18:20] pupit1 (n=p@93.86.1.2) left irc: "Leaving." [18:21] to post everything i'd need ~300megs [18:21] MB [18:21] I think I can get some free space @ work. Need to see if they still do that. If so, I will host it for you. [18:22] well i really could use my own space anyway though [18:22] like some cheap VPS [18:22] It's not VPS, but NearlyFreeSPeech is cheap and good. [18:23] nullboy, ask rworkman [18:23] if it's slackware related packages, i'm sure he wont mind [18:23] hba (n=hba@189.188.156.152) joined ##slackware. [18:23] nachox: haha yeah, it's me PAMifying Slackware 12.2 [18:23] verboten! [18:24] nullboy, you'd have to recompile half the packages, including kde [18:24] nachox: i already have it all working... [18:25] nachox: look what can do http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/slack-12.2-xdm-swipe-or-type.jpg [18:25] ;) [18:25] got 12.2 working with PAM and then used PAM to make my fingerprint reader work [18:27] nice [18:27] and for kde it's not everything [18:27] i have my list right here one sec [18:29] this is the list of packages either added or modified to make the system work properly with PAM for auth at CLI and X/KDE: pwdb, cracklib, libsepol, libselinux, Linux-PAM, cyrus-sasl, popa3d, openssh, screen, shadow, sudo, cups, samba, kdebase, kdeadmin, kdepim, xlockmore, xdm, thinkthinger,and optinally vsftpd [18:29] kitche (n=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:30] is there more stuff that might need replaceing? is that just the very basic one has to replace? [18:32] slackytude: that list will make the system work properly with PAM for all the standard stuff that people want to use pam with. all system logins will use pam in this setup and if the system has a fingerprint reader it will "just work" and if it doesn't the system will still do plain old password auth [18:32] but anything else, after those packages are installed just needs to be recompiled with its pam option enabled and it will work [18:32] slackytude: i did it so the majority of the things you'd want to use PAM with were done [18:33] but not every last program that can use PAM is in my list ;) [18:33] not sure what I would need it for [18:33] still nice tho [18:33] samba with PAM cna be cool [18:33] you could also add pam_mount libs too [18:33] yeah, that might be worth a try [18:33] http://pam-mount.sourceforge.net/ [18:34] i'll write aq build for that next actually [18:34] got a kerberos samba at work slack to play nicely with win2003 stuff [18:34] yeah [18:34] works ok, but might be better with pam [18:34] slackytude, nice [18:34] wasnt as hard as I thought it would [18:34] vuln (n=user@unaffiliated/vuln) joined ##slackware. [18:35] still, gonna update it to 12.2 soon and then Im gonna look into PAM stuff [18:35] work is at 12th jan, tho [18:35] so make a nice website :D [18:35] haha [18:36] Im trying to get locateFS working tight now [18:36] not sure if its usefull yet [18:37] probably not [18:37] vuln (n=user@unaffiliated/vuln) left ##slackware. [18:40] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:47] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:48] renew (n=renew@c-67-169-112-184.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:48] hey slackytude [18:48] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-7-116.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:49] thanks for the info yesturday about slax... finally got something to boot by using "acpi=off" [18:50] cool [18:51] that probably means your bix is going kaput, tho [18:51] What group does a user needs to be in in order to auto-mount CDs? [18:51] s/bix/box [18:52] pookiewookie_ (n=opera@86.100.65.204) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:52] Is it 'hotplug'? [18:52] Action: slackytude is unable to hit the right keys [18:52] plugdev [18:52] Bart_S (n=Shan@212-123-176-163.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Connection timed out [18:52] plugdev? [18:53] yes, the plugdev group [18:53] pookiewookie_ (n=opera@86.100.65.204) joined ##slackware. [18:54] Action: asarch thinks that the 'slackytude' sounds like "Get The Slack In, Or Get The Fuck Out" [18:54] You have a great nick slackytude [18:54] :-) [18:54] asarch, thx ^-^ [18:55] "A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal") [18:55] slackware + attitude = slackytude [18:55] It doesn't work the plugdev group on my system :-( [18:55] Bart_S (n=Shan@212-123-176-163.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:55] you need to re login for changes to take effect [18:55] ... [18:55] D'oh! [18:55] after your user is in plugdev group [18:55] BRB! [18:55] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.144.113) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [18:56] nvision (n=hub@p4FC0391A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:56] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.144.113) joined ##slackware. [18:57] It didn't work: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal") [18:57] Oh crap! [18:57] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:58] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [19:00] renew (n=renew@c-67-169-112-184.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:00] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:00] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [19:00] asarch, what groups are you in? what version is this? [19:00] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:00] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:00] Slackware 12.2, How can you know you current groups with a command? [19:01] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_@c-98-207-187-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:01] type groups [19:01] disk wheel floppy audio video cdrom games tape plugdev users [19:01] asarch: your issue is the most asked FAQ I know about Slackware [19:02] Thank you nullboy [19:02] Maybe the 'cdrom' group is conflicting with the 'plugdev' [19:03] LnxSlck_ (n=LnxSlck@bl7-83-2.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:03] bhodgins (i=1000@cpe-76-179-61-174.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:03] asarch: is your account actually listed on the line with "plugdev" in the file /etc/group ? [19:03] Hey everyone! and a merry christmas for thos who celebrate it. I ave something to show that I got. [19:03] bhodgins: Merry Christmas [19:04] lando (n=lando@c-75-74-143-33.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] Yes, it is alienBOB: plugdev:x:83:root,asarch [19:04] k_wolf_ (n=wolf@201009057239.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:04] I'm sure you think its cool. My parents made it with their robotic routing machine [19:04] http://bytethebullet.com/images/BR_SLACK_SIGN_1.JPG [19:04] that's awesome [19:04] Nick change: bhodgins -> FatalNIX [19:04] :) [19:05] That's a great piece of wood FatalNIX [19:05] :-) [19:05] WWW-Veezy-NET (n=Rettorm@85.102.71.49) joined ##slackware. [19:05] WWW-Veezy-NET (n=Rettorm@85.102.71.49) left ##slackware. [19:05] I thought it was awesome. I had no idea what my father was planning when I was getting groceries and he asked what distro I used. [19:07] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [19:07] looks nice bhodgins [19:07] heh, great stuff [19:08] damn, pat is in facebook :P [19:08] at that point you can just call me Brian. heh. [19:08] nachox, come again? [19:08] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-227361.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:09] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-227361.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:10] foureyes779: sorry I missed you earlier; pong. [19:14] what is up with this guy posting this solution? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackware-12-hal-automount-566948/#post2826978 [19:14] add some thirdparty software to fix a problem that isn't a problem? [19:16] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:17] at least the package links seem dead [19:18] nullboy: then nobady is in danger ;) [19:18] lol [19:19] lando (n=lando@c-75-74-143-33.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [19:19] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [19:20] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] FatalNIX: life of brian [19:21] Later Fellas! [19:21] limac (n=limac@ool-44c1ff82.dyn.optonline.net) left ##slackware. [19:21] How come the GIMP is still on version 2.4.7 on Slackware 12.2? [19:23] Because..it is [19:23] FreeBSD-7.1-RC2 [19:24] rworkman has packages for new gimp [19:24] How can I list the list of available packages using slackpkg? [19:24] slackytude: Who is rworkman? [19:25] O_o [19:25] rworkman, who are you again? [19:25] maybe pat should start using snapshots(cvs/snv/git/mercurial) of programs ;) [19:25] I am me. [19:25] kleanchap, its him [19:25] kleanchap: what do you mean by listing available packages? list packages that aren't installed? [19:25] damn and I thought he was the walrus [19:25] :-) [19:26] ? [19:26] how do you lot deal with mailing lists, do you have a separate email address so you dont clutter up your inbox or does your email client have some kind of organising scheme specially for mailing lists? [19:27] jonsmith1982: filtering definitely [19:29] renew (n=renew@c-67-169-112-184.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] My IMAP mailserver does server-side filtering. That way, I don't have to rely on a particular email client to have filter rules [19:30] I.e. the emails arrive at my server and go straight to the mailfolder I want them to be filetered into [19:32] kleanchap, http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/ [19:32] slacytude: Thnx. [19:33] sherique (n=se@69.150.48.196) joined ##slackware. [19:34] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:34] Food time again :) [19:34] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [19:34] Ok, I tried 3 blank CDs in a row and got the following: http://alkos333.pastebin.com/m5ed142ea [19:34] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.131.72) joined ##slackware. [19:36] evening folks %-) [19:36] BP{k}: hair of the dog mate. hair of the dog. [19:37] obnauticus (n=lol@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [19:37] alkos333, I got something like that with bad hardare [19:38] nullboy: way to early for that ;) [19:39] haha [19:40] there is still much booze :) [19:41] slackboy: yes, and DVDs usually give OPC Failed.. something .. [19:41] I have downloaded the application GeoIP. The compilation and installation went well. I am trying to figure out how to use it. [19:41] What is the GeoIP applicaton binary name? Is it a GUI application? [19:41] supergear (n=supergea@c-67-166-1-173.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:41] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176095172.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [19:41] jjholt_ (n=jjholt@99.167.76.5) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:42] kleanchap: geoip from SBo? [19:42] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:42] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:42] BP{k}: What is "SBo"? [19:43] SB means, SlackBuilds.org. [19:43] "slackbuilds.org" - the place where the official slackbuild scripts for slackware packages are located [19:43] slackytude: Yes, one of the DVDs just burned successfully [19:43] slackytude: took like 25 tries [19:44] s/for\ slackware/for\ thirdparty\ slackware/ ;) [19:44] BP{k}: doh! [19:44] ;) [19:45] unixfool (i=4421c1cc@about/slackware/wigglit) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [19:45] BP{k}: I was checking the install log for GeoIP. It looks like everything is installed in /tmp directory. Why is that? I thought the Slackbuild packages install the applications on the system like a normal install. Not to the /tmp directory.... [19:46] it will create a package in /tmp which you can install after its done [19:46] kleanchap: sbo packages build the software into a package - you still have to "installpkg " in order to get it installed [19:46] kleanchap: well obviously you thought wrong :) The Slackbuild packages only *build* the package. it won't install it for you. That is the task of the sysadmin. [19:46] ok....I am enlightened. :-) [19:47] see also http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ - step 4 ;) [19:47] Action: BP{k} is being "bribed" with more food and booze .. back later :) [19:47] you might want to check out http://www.sbopkg.org/ too [19:47] supergear (n=supergea@c-67-166-1-173.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:48] unixfool (i=4421c1cc@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-706cac742db1c7b1) joined ##slackware. [19:48] supergear (n=supergea@c-67-166-1-173.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:50] If anyone wanted to see it close up, though its hard to see that its actualy engraved... http://bytethebullet.com/images/Slackware Sign (Large).JPG [19:51] elius (n=elius@85-250-79-232.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: "Leaving" [19:52] alisonken1home: BP{k} : slackytude: These package is compiled and left in the directory. It does not create a package like a TGZ file. I could compile and install it myself. The big question is, what is the big advantage of Slackbuild. [19:53] kleanchap: as a quick final note ... the geoip as hosted at slackbuilds .. I think it's only the database and the api.However you can check the package it'sefl [19:53] kleanchap: it should. [19:54] Believe it or not I have been using Slackware since early 90's.....Last 4 years I had to take a detour....I did create lots of packages in my early days. I am trying to figure out Slackbuild advantage. [19:55] kleanchap, It should give you a tgz file [19:55] Obviously things have changed a bit so there is a learning curve now. [19:55] kleanchap: http://rafb.net/p/cOq9t771.html [19:55] in other words. It works just perfectly fine. [19:56] i use that Geoip slackbuild too [19:56] caixabox_ (n=elcio@caixabox.broker.freenet6.net) joined ##slackware. [19:56] kleanchap: lets see .. there is a more or less standarized way of providing buildscripts that are have under go quality checking. So it should not backfire and destroy your system. We list dependencies so you dont have to figure them out yourself. [19:57] those of you that like old Bogart movies Casablanca is about to start on TCM [19:57] kleanchap: if you don't use a package and just install from sources with the standard ./configure && make && make install you end up with a maintenance nightmare [19:58] kleanchap: and mostly of all .. SlackBuilds scripts are the way Slackware itself is build. :) [19:58] I always use ./configure --help[ | most [19:58] first [19:58] ? [19:59] wrong window [19:59] hadi_cml (n=Tauk_Aja@125.163.128.91) joined ##slackware. [19:59] hadi_cml (n=Tauk_Aja@125.163.128.91) left ##slackware ("GNU/Linux Slack-12 [Leaving]"). [20:00] hadi_cml (n=Tauk_Aja@125.163.128.91) joined ##slackware. [20:00] hadi_cml (n=Tauk_Aja@125.163.128.91) left ##slackware ("GNU/Linux Slack-12 [Leaving]"). [20:00] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [20:01] BP{k}: I did find the tgz file. Thanks for sending me the URL. I had to compare that with my minimal buffer that scrolled away. [20:02] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "Leaving" [20:02] Slackbuild looks like a nice idea. I still need to get used to this one. [20:02] nullboy is right, you should use either a slackbuild or learn to use DESTDIR or INSTALL_ROOT with makepkg to build a package so you can cleanly remove or up any packages you install [20:02] Thnx everyone for being patient with me on this one! [20:03] Action: kleanchap getting older and grumpier (probably). [20:03] just wait until you go bald and start growing hair in your ears and on your back [20:03] there is also fakeroot. [20:03] thank you, debian. [20:09] I actualy have some gray hairs and I'm only 20. [20:09] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:09] Another question of GeoIP package....How to use it? [20:09] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.144.113) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:09] raela (n=raela@cpe-075-176-145-204.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:10] I may not use it extensively but since it does not take up too much memory I will leave it on the system. [20:10] I thought it was a GUI application. [20:12] read the manpage? look at the upstream website? [20:12] and as stated in the README. it's the API and database [20:13] pookiewookie_ (n=opera@86.100.65.204) left irc: [20:13] BP{k}: I could not find the man page for geoip. I will look up in the /tmp directory. [20:13] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@201-34-151-198.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:14] its just an API [20:14] unless you write a programm for it, its kinda useless [20:16] slackytude: geoip contains utils too [20:16] slackytude: Thnx. I finally found the man page. That make sense. [20:16] yeah and you need to buy an activation key for it to be of any use [20:16] otherwise you just get basic country locations [20:17] nullboy: basic is good enough for me :) [20:17] lns40, not in the slackbuild, afaik [20:17] slackytude: ok... [20:17] slackytude: geoiplookup ? [20:18] why on Earth is KDE portrayed as an OS here? http://www.osforum.com/ [20:19] lns40, true, I stand corrected [20:20] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [20:21] kiler6 (n=ALIVE@201-34-215-154.gnace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:22] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:25] chubs (n=joseph@66-159-173-99.adsl.snet.net) joined ##slackware. [20:26] chubs (n=joseph@66-159-173-99.adsl.snet.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [20:27] Dominian, around? [20:27] chubs (n=joseph@66-159-173-99.adsl.snet.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] nullboy, http://osforum.com/KDE [20:28] lol [20:28] ^-^ [20:28] but do you see that icon box? [20:29] windows, OSX, linux BSD, Novell, and..wtf...KDE? [20:29] yeah [20:29] I clicked on KDE [20:29] demoncyber_ (n=demoncyb@201-34-151-198.jvece702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [20:29] that's a silly icon box i say! [20:29] all forums are empty too [20:29] http://osforum.com/slackware/ looks like a ghost town [20:29] aye, I hear you [20:29] all Im saying is, the whole site sucks [20:29] i would like to install the slackware on VMware, but im having problems with the partition [20:29] nice freebsd logo though [20:30] that website (osforum) is probably not very old [20:31] http://osforum.com/KDE Page not found [20:31] i reserved 9GB to install slackware on vmware, but in cfdisk shows only 690mb free [20:31] i'm waiting for help [20:31] wtf? [20:32] Im waiting for money [20:32] waiting for help huh? http://sweet.nodns4.us/ [20:33] kiler6, you made something wrong [20:33] kiler6: I DONT CARE [20:33] got vmware + slack working just fine without doing anyting fancy [20:33] yeah slackware works just fine in most VMs that are properly configured [20:33] what did you tell cfdisk? [20:34] nice link nullboy, i bookmarked it! :D [20:34] lol [20:34] try fdisk... if it still doesn't work send angry email to vmware support group. [20:34] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] because i used cfdisk to see free space [20:34] kiler6, what did you tell cfdisk? [20:35] if you are running slackware within a vmware session do not expect all the tools to provide accurate information [20:35] kiler6: you need to be a bit more clear about what you have done so far. You said you 'reserved 9GB to install slackware'. What does that mean? Did you create a 9GB VM image or do you mean you reserved 9GB of free space on a disk to use with vmware? [20:35] raelalkoira (n=raela@cpe-075-176-151-122.sc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:36] the max space reserved is 9GB [20:36] it is what i think [20:36] and i'm installing from a .iso in my pc [20:37] i will try again [20:37] and you have mouse, monitor and keyboard attached to said to pc? [20:37] raela (n=raela@cpe-075-176-145-204.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:37] Is It Luck! [20:38] sladegen: sorry... in my hard disk ¬¬ [20:40] in the hard disk information on vmware is: current size: 1.3 mb [20:40] max size: 10GB [20:40] System free: 47.1gb [20:40] chubs_ (n=joseph@69.182.56.138) joined ##slackware. [20:40] any ideas how can I update the time? It has +2 hours and the Timezone is right [20:41] i am trouble shooting my sister in laws new-ish laptop and its whites make my older laptops look dingy :( [20:41] NuMaStresa: ntpdate pool.ntp.org !? [20:41] chubs_ (n=joseph@69.182.56.138) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:41] thanks lns40 [20:41] NuMaStresa: after that ntpdate command, run hwclock --systohc [20:41] AWWW! didnt santa clause bring you a new laptop nstitchma ? [20:41] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-76-241-17-179.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:41] that will fix the bios/cmos time [20:42] thanks for the tips guys [20:42] now you have to pay tax. [20:42] NuMaStresa, also, you might wish to active ntp service so it stays current [20:42] supergear (n=supergea@c-67-166-1-173.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:42] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060019d1f79250.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:42] how can I activate it ? [20:43] supergear (n=supergea@c-67-166-1-173.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] it's fixed now [20:43] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060019d1f79250.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:45] I really like the way things are going, I guess I asked today like 6-7 questions and been helped every time [20:46] nullboy: i use fdisk /dev/hda and it show a message that i'm not able to write the partition table [20:46] Action: NuMaStresa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4 [20:46] it must be the christmas spirit. [20:47] Action: sladegen starts weeping. [20:47] yes, I think you're right sladegen :) [20:47] s4mur4i__ (n=s4mur4i@189.81.27.32) left irc: "Saindo." [20:48] night all, and merry xmas [20:48] night nachox merry xmas to you too [20:49] Action: NuMaStresa happy, my system works great, everybody's nice [20:49] NuMaStresa, like everything else, its in /etc/rc.d/rc.ntpd [20:49] need to edit /etc/ntp.conf, tho [20:50] although many dhcp servers will populate that [20:50] I'll have a look, I guess I should learn /etc and know it as my pocket [20:50] not all of /etc but /etc/rc.d , yeah [20:50] _S4MUR4I_ (n=s4mur4i@189.81.27.32) joined ##slackware. [20:50] as a minimum [20:50] :P [20:50] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:50] Is lame available for Slackware? I see audacity, which I need to edit a mp3 ringtone. To save mp3 in audacity, I would need lame. [20:51] kleanchap, sbo [20:51] I used linux for quite some time, I wonder how can I solve my problems alone, really learn about the system, I can do anything in slackware ... If i read a tutorial , it would be nicer if I could solve my problems without google or your help [20:51] i think ntpd is overkill... just run ntpdate cron job every day... [20:51] supergear (n=supergea@c-67-166-1-173.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:51] kleanchap, did someone point you to sbopkg et? [20:52] slackytude: I do think so....let me look if that browser is still open..... [20:52] NuMaStresa, that comes with time. but you'll notice that even gurus will ask questions here on occasion. nobody is perfect [20:52] I didn't found any good (more advanced) slackware book , any recomandations ? [20:52] I have read the book from the slackware site but I already knew most of things out there or had an idea of what/where I should look [20:53] first steps should always be apropos and man :P [20:53] Action: sladegen haven't read any book. [20:53] slackwarebasics.org is a bit more in depth [20:53] slackbasics? [20:53] thanks for the tips [20:54] yeah here http://slackbasics.org/ [20:54] thanks again [20:54] FatalNIX (i=1000@cpe-76-179-61-174.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:54] wow, nice book [20:54] also there is /usr/doc [20:55] although the stuff in there is kinda outdated [20:55] Linux-HOWTOs [20:55] yeah [20:55] also there is /usr/doc/Linux-HOWTOs/Coffee [20:55] er [20:55] yeah, that's funny [20:55] :) [20:55] 'man -k foo' 'info info' [20:55] The stuff in /usr/doc (most of it) is from the tldp right ? [20:56] slocate, grep, find... [20:56] NuMaStresa, I think it predates tldp [20:56] I use locate a lot ... :) [20:56] some of it anyway [20:57] slackytude do u know which kernel i use to read a scsi partition ? [20:57] FAQs, http://google.com/linux [20:58] kiler6, default should have no problem with it. [20:59] =/ [20:59] a read in a forum to use scsi.s [21:00] link? [21:00] it is in portuguese [21:00] Action: NuMaStresa going to sleep, It's 5 a clock in the morning [21:00] =/ [21:01] thanks for the help I guess I'll say you guys later [21:01] Best Regards, happy x-mas again [21:01] http://under-linux.org/forums/slackware/75785-slackware-no-vmware.html [21:01] see ya [21:01] NuMaStresa (i=1000@unaffiliated/numastresa) left irc: "Leaving" [21:02] kiler6, its for slack 10 [21:02] and the snow is really annoying [21:02] nstitchma (n=stitch@pool-72-82-160-116.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:03] nstitchma (n=stitch@pool-72-82-212-176.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] Action: sladegen is jealous /me wants snow. [21:03] Action: slackytude meant the dhtml snow on the website :D [21:04] 3 years old forum thread, bah... [21:04] yeah [21:04] gui_ap (n=gui_ap@201-68-167-87.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:05] Action: foureyes779 has been shoveling snow most of the day [21:05] Hi all... At this point I'm installing slack 12.2 on my Eee 900A... [21:06] chubs (n=joseph@66-159-173-99.adsl.snet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:06] Action: rob0 is jealous, wants Eee [21:07] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.17.211) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:08] dieter___ (n=dieter@92.117.94.98) joined ##slackware. [21:09] hiddenlandscape (n=feyxsuwe@92.117.86.167) joined ##slackware. [21:11] slackytude i found out... i need to change the HD configuration in VMware [21:11] how can i create a partition using fdisk? [21:12] kiler6, http://slackbook.org [21:12] foureyes779, shoveling? its quickly melting over here [21:12] kiler6: press m for help. [21:12] ganeshix, clearly the problem is i didn't get an Eee for xmas like you [21:13] we are up in NW Washington state. got abt 20-24 inches [21:13] edman007, You're still in time. $300 at BestBuy. [21:13] ok [21:13] edman007: had to shovel out the driveway in case we got a call from the FD [21:13] Action: edman007 looks for his $300 gift card from ganeshix [21:14] foureyes779, no one to plow it? [21:14] edman007: nope. got the boys out and the 4 of us dug out [21:15] hiddenlandscape (n=feyxsuwe@92.117.86.167) left irc: [21:15] foureyes779, thats the hard way, i'm a leader, i just sit around and tell other people to work and take all the credit [21:15] you should try that [21:16] edman007: heh, have to remember that next time [21:20] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [21:20] crudo1 (n=0xdead@189-87-68-209.rec.megazon.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:20] slackytude: Every package that I have tried to download and create with sbopkg tool, I am getting a md5 checksum error. Any solutions to troubleshoot this? [21:21] dios2 (n=test@88.241.129.161) joined ##slackware. [21:21] rosh_ (n=rosh@e176095172.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [21:21] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:22] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [21:23] darn emacs keystrokes...AAARGGGHHH [21:23] kleanchap, just to test your connection, can you try agaon with geoip = [21:23] ? [21:23] might be you were just having bad luck [21:23] cos you will get an checksum error if the server for source code is down [21:24] which can happen, especially with sourceforge stuff [21:24] slackytude: It looks like the connection problem. What is the OpenDNS or something? I will use that as my DNS server. [21:25] 208.67.222.222 [21:26] 208.67.220.220 [21:26] dios2 (n=test@88.241.129.161) left irc: "Leaving" [21:27] slackytude: Thnx [21:29] rworkman: you around tonite ? [21:30] foureyes779: just looked in for a few [21:30] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:30] rworkman: just had a quick question for ya... [21:30] What's up? [21:31] rworkman: did you go to a school named "Valley High" by any chance ? [21:31] <_chess_> kleanchap: there must be something wrong with your setup or your connection. [21:31] <_chess_> does it download the sources at all? [21:31] foureyes779: nope, and there's not anything like that where I'm from. [21:32] rworkman: ok, tnx [21:32] np [21:32] rworkman: my girlfriend went to high school with someone with the same name back in Ohio [21:32] I tried to setup DNS server using the netconfig command. The command did not give that option. I am using dhcp on my home network and would like the name resolution to go to OpenDNS. [21:32] dieter___ (n=dieter@92.117.94.98) left ##slackware. [21:32] _chess_: It is a network problem. [21:33] so I have a situation. I'm going through a bunch of script that i have found, audited and in some cases modified. all the scripts i'm talking about, i found at a single location but many of them don't have the original author info in them at all. My plan was to explain that, include the link to the site and also thank whoever the original author was and explain that i have modified some of the scripts.....is that plan sane? [21:33] foureyes779: wow. I went to HS in Mississippi, and am currently in Alabama. No relatives in Ohio as far as I know [21:33] I was explaining how cool slackware was, and some of the people who work on it, and your name came up. [21:33] <_chess_> kleanchap: ok. your nameservers go in /etc/resolv.conf btw [21:33] rworkman: do you know who grzech is by any chance? [21:34] oh, you know joe from Mississipi lol [21:34] _chess_: Thnx. [21:34] nullboy: I don't. [21:34] <_chess_> kleanchap: np [21:35] rworkman: do you think my above plan regarding giving credit where credit is due is ok? [21:35] grzech is a sin. [21:35] foureyes779: I have been to Ohio though - my wife has family in Cleveland though [21:35] nullboy: maybe. Depends on licensing issues, but probably [21:36] rworkman: my Girlfriend was from Cleveland. [21:36] sladegen: can you elaborate? i'm lost [21:36] Know any Wedgeworth's? [21:36] she has been here in Washington since 98 [21:36] nullboy: it means sin in polish. [21:36] nullboy: but it's a short of a first name, too. [21:36] http://ftp.slackware.pl/pub/ and http://ftp.slackware.pl/pub/people/grzech/ [21:36] rworkman: BTW, thank you for all the work you do with Slackware [21:37] Mr. grzech had a lot of the pam stuff but i needed to make some modifications to some of the scripts as well as the config files that the scripts install. i audited it ALL and made my changes [21:37] nullboy: shasta probably knows how to get in touch with him. [21:38] foureyes779: no problem; it's a lot of fun :) [21:38] hmm thanks [21:38] crudo (n=0xdead@189-87-68-209.rec.megazon.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:38] 02:38 [freenode] -!- shasta [i=shasta@bluzg.slackware.pl] [21:38] 02:38 [freenode] -!- ircname : Jakub Jankowski [21:38] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.ftslgt stop" [21:39] mmm interesting [21:39] i doubt my intentions would be a problem but i sure don't want to make anyone mad [21:40] Yeah, and it's always better to ask just in case :) [21:40] steal without remorse! [21:41] lol [21:41] if linus did not steal from minix and gnu where would we be today? [21:41] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.12.10) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:42] see, he used some scripts from slackware so i highly doubt he'd be mad. i also don't see him letting anyone know about his mods to those scripts nor if he was the actual author of the others [21:43] example, openssh: http://ftp.slackware.pl/pub/people/grzech/pam/src/slack12.1/daemon/openssh/openssh.SlackBuild.PAM [21:43] he added --with-pam but didn't say he did [21:45] twolf_ (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [21:46] slackwarez is the best. [21:46] lol [21:46] C-u 8 C-n [21:46] oops [21:46] am I just freaking out for nothing? [21:46] yes [21:46] here is what I plan to put into each script: [21:48] # I found this script from: http://ftp.slackware.pl/pub/people/grzech/ so I assume that someone named grzech was the original author. This Build had no credits or 'who dun it' when i found it at the above site so I will give credit to whoever grzech is. Thank you for these builds, I have slightly modified them to suit my needs but I very much do appricate the work you had done initally. Thanks again! If anyone decidesto take this script and modi [21:48] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:48] slackid (n=willysr@125.163.251.150) left irc: "Leaving" [21:48] appreciate** [21:49] "stolen by nullboy" sounds more correct to me ;) [21:49] lol [21:49] but but!!! [21:49] i plan to use spell check later on, btw ;) [21:50] stolen from fellow slacker grech and improved by fellow slacker nullboy... [21:50] i'm sort of making them more "SBo" quality [21:50] not that SBo would ever approve PAM builds hahaha [21:50] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:51] hiptobecubic (n=john@c-76-123-88-62.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] i switched from windows XP to linux-only about 4 years ago, and here i am sitting trying to update norton anti virus on a friends computer and I look back and wonder why i didnt switch sooner [21:51] if every line of code had a copyright attached to it... intertubez would get clogged. [21:52] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:53] Action: sladegen wishes he'd done it sooner than 1999. [21:53] just think if every line of code had a page of comments explaining what it did [21:53] sladegen: i think that at least *trying* to give credit to the original author is at least better than flat out thievery [21:54] screw it, i tried ;) [21:54] Nick change: raelalkoira -> raela [21:54] nullboy: sure, but i think pointing to the original source is more useful for your downstream user, even more. [21:54] ah yeah [21:54] back reference [21:56] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:57] and pub/people/grzech is sorta "in your face" reference. [21:57] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.12.10) joined ##slackware. [22:01] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-76-180-122-198.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:01] superGear (i=superGea@c-67-166-1-173.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:02] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:04] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [22:04] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:08] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:36] Action: foureyes779 is on page 2 of Emacs keystrokes/Commands [22:39] cool [22:39] ParadigmShift (n=chatzill@pool-71-105-88-2.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:39] Nick change: ParadigmShift_ -> ParadigmShift [22:40] necr0mancer (n=rob@c-76-98-108-129.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:42] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:43] maduser (n=kevin@71.167.185.156) joined ##slackware. [22:43] superGear (i=superGea@c-67-166-1-173.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:47] Bart_S (n=Shan@212-123-176-163.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Connection timed out [22:47] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) joined ##slackware. [22:49] moxer (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:50] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. 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[22:58] should i install that way? or is there any better way [23:00] moxer (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:02] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.131.72) joined ##slackware. [23:03] do you use the same user and homedir for both OSes¿ [23:04] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [23:05] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:06] maduser (n=kevin@71.167.185.156) left irc: "Leaving" [23:09] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-76-241-17-179.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:12] edman007_ (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [23:12] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:13] Nick change: edman007_ -> edman007 [23:21] moxer (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:22] hey i am on kde now, if i switch to fluxbox, will the xorg.conf change or will stay the same ? [23:22] will it* [23:23] de does not affect xorg.conf [23:23] anyone tell me ho to switch btwn buffers in emacs ? [23:24] was goin thru the tut in Emacs, got to the part where they mention how to find files, now cant get back to the tutorial [23:25] ele_ (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:26] ele__ (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:26] ...what's the difference between ddr3 1800 and ddr3 2000 ram? [23:27] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:28] speed? [23:29] anyone tell me how to switch btwn buffers in emacs ? [23:32] r0b_ (n=r0b@pool-71-244-158-133.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] gm152 (n=gm@d121-136-109.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:37] ganeshix_back (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[23:42] if i have desktop 1 with firefox and pidgin i want to keep it that way i dont want items from desktop 2 [23:42] to be in the taskbar [23:42] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:42] ele_ (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:43] raela (n=raela@cpe-075-176-151-122.sc.res.rr.com) left irc: "be back tomorrow" [23:43] moxer: you can configure that i think.. in the taskbar.. or something like that.. [23:43] brb switching to fluxbox [23:43] moxer (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:44] ele__ (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:46] svippery (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [23:46] svippy (n=svip@0x50a5b14e.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:47] about hdapsd, i get this messages when i boot my system http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/8315, is it normal? [23:47] ganeshix_back (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:48] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:48] hba: In case I forget when moxer returns: -> Configure Panel -> Taskbar -> Show windows from all desktops (uncheck) [23:50] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.174.122.152) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:52] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [23:52] acidkill (i=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:53] ganeshix_back (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:57] yet-again-ganesh (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Fri Dec 26 2008