[00:00] what does 'given depth (16) not supported' mean? :P [00:00] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [00:01] what do you have in the conf for your default (8,16,24,32)? [00:01] is it true 13 installs without an xorg.conf file by default? [00:01] That is only half of the story. [00:02] which driver are you using? [00:02] The system actually does use an xorg.conf file but that file is generated by the system on the fly. [00:02] ah [00:02] you can still use your own xorg.conf [00:02] So it is in fact there [00:02] So it is in fact there/ [00:02] so it's there, and it can be edited, yes? [00:03] you put your own there. [00:03] got it [00:03] xorgsetup [00:03] Then run the NVidia installer. [00:03] logickills, one monitor? [00:03] it's a laptop [00:03] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-156-251.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:03] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. [00:04] install the drivers (the nVidia.....run) [00:04] You could still have an external monitor. [00:04] edit the xorg.conf [00:04] and you're good to go [00:04] What is it that I edit [00:04] you can set up twinview for an external, whatever [00:04] hang on and i'll post the section [00:04] If you're not using hald and system dbus, there's a touch more pain to go through. [00:05] shonudo: i have 16 in there because 24 causes a hard lock [00:05] damn [00:05] haven't seen that [00:05] logickills, mind a PM? [00:05] shonudo: I understand that the nvidia driver should support xrandr soon. [00:05] nope [00:06] no means yes [00:06] corey2 (n=corey@adsl-99-56-123-92.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving." [00:07] Section "Device" [00:07] Identifier "VESA Framebuffer" [00:07] Driver "nvidia" [00:07] Channel flood from shonudo -- kicking [00:07] Option "RenderAccel" "true" #May not work with legacy hardware [00:07] Option "LogoPath" "/opt/custom/slackware.png" [00:07] shonudo kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [00:07] awesome [00:07] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [00:08] had a feeling that would happen [00:08] lmao [00:08] haha [00:08] pastebin? [00:08] Thank you shonudo [00:08] no, braindead, caoliver [00:08] i should have used pastebin [00:09] that setup is on a laptop with a "clone" for an external screen if i want it [00:09] LogoPath? You mean you can replace the splash? [00:10] shonudo: http://pastebin.ca/1726521 <-- that's my xorg.0.log | http://pastebin.ca/1726522 <-- that's my xorg.conf [00:10] caoliver, yes [00:10] you can [00:10] Cool. Didn't know that. [00:10] my splashscreen is a slackware logo [00:10] in neither instance do i get a working X but at least with 16 depth set i can get an error [00:10] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-35-137.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:10] i much prefer option "nosplash" [00:11] dartmouth: you're using ATI hardware? [00:11] fglrx? That's ati. [00:12] yep [00:12] radeon sapphire hd 5770 [00:12] the nvidia setup is different (i think) [00:12] specific to nvidia [00:12] i've had such bad luck with ATI drivers, i gave up on them [00:12] It is. I've boxes using both. [00:13] does ATI provide linux support (a man or something)? [00:13] im not aware of any major differences between setup on the system, but i know the installation is a little different. [00:13] no [00:13] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:13] My other laptop came with a immobility radeon hd3470, so I didn't have a choise. [00:13] shonudo: #radeon for your ati needs [00:13] s/choise/choice/ [00:13] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:13] dartmouth, see mishehu [00:14] im already there :D [00:14] fglrx is deprecated, was a PoS, and the new radeon stuff seems to be shaping up [00:14] Catalyst 9.11 doesn't work too dreadfully. [00:14] as soon as edward shishkin provides another reiser4 patch for 2.6.32, I'll be trying out radeon kms [00:14] New rad stuff runs the GPU hot. [00:15] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.36) joined ##slackware. [00:15] My notebook ran about five degrees warmer with radeonhd than with fglrx. [00:16] radeonhd != radeon != fglrx [00:16] I'm referring to the radeon driver [00:16] radeonhd is a separate project [00:16] I laugh every time, still, when someone brings up the state of ATI/AMD and graphics drivers. [00:16] It's hilarious [00:16] How come? [00:16] ATI could never write drivers [00:16] antiwire: the sad thing is that about 10-15 years ago they were THE card to use with linux. [00:16] how long has it been now? Didn't they initially say 6 months until they release some badass driver? [00:16] hahaha [00:17] ati isn't writing the radeon driver [00:17] but they gave specs finally [00:17] good! [00:17] so that those folks who are writing them can write them [00:17] About the only painful part with me about the blob is that it hang my box if I try to start a second x server. [00:17] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:19] yuck [00:19] i got kicked before the whole post got out... [00:19] lol [00:19] does this count against me like points against my driver's license? [00:19] yes [00:19] o_0 [00:19] stay in front of the computer, a SWAT team has been dispatched to escort you to a detention facility. [00:20] cool! i had nothing to do for christmas! [00:20] on the bright side i made this awesome fish dish with tilapia, curry, splash of sugar, spinach dip (tostitos), olive oil, hint of tobasco, and beef broth. [00:20] damn [00:20] I, for one, welcome our new Blackwater overlords. [00:20] dartmouth: that sounds pretty damn tasty [00:20] that sounds great [00:20] can you post the recipe? [00:20] lmao [00:20] It was. I'm happy. [00:21] In fact, I'm switching to windows. Bye. [00:22] why? [00:22] WoW [00:22] Obviously the fish were tainted. [00:22] lol [00:22] :P [00:22] dartmouth: I get it. You're really Tuomo Valkonen. [00:23] I'm not sure, lemme google him. [00:23] images [00:23] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:23] i have no x i can't see them. [00:23] because i can't get this figured out. [00:23] I have no X or a network haha [00:23] hmm, vodka seems to be hitting me too fast, perhaps I should have eaten more than a salad before drinking it... [00:24] This guy who developed a window manager, and got huffy about licenses, called the free software folk foul names, and said he was going to go and develop exclusively for windows. [00:24] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-35-137.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:24] i don't get it; why rag on the OSS people? [00:25] Urchlay: did you mix it with something fizzy like tonic? [00:25] habaneros (n=habanero@pool-71-101-38-110.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] nah, orange juice [00:25] gotta be the ion3 developer [00:25] shonudo: I don't either. Tuomo was a bit of an @$$. [00:25] probably because he wanted a paycheck. i've got news for ya, all the preaching you do about how info should be free goes out the effin' window when your wife and baby are screaming at you about the electric bill and you're facing a shame that will never go away from your inlaws. [00:26] dartmouth: I agree, but I think it was more bratty ideology than pragmatics. [00:26] Either the preaching goes out the window - or the baby. [00:26] lol [00:26] dartmouth: not necessarily. You have the things you do to make a living, and the things you do for fun. Unless your life sucks badly, you will be able to make time for the fun stuff [00:26] lmao [00:26] you say 'no, i wouldnt do that. i wouldnt sell out.'.. but the first time you had an argument with the misses you'd be sending resumes to MS [00:26] the hell I would [00:26] (if only because I know microsoft would never hire me) [00:26] lol [00:26] I mean all of you. [00:27] anyway I won't ever have kids unless/until I'm stinking filthy rich enough to support them in style [00:27] Or you get raped [00:27] eh, I don't have a uterus [00:27] Our walking society hasn't progressed to something that could sustain free information, yet; this makes the OSS community just as misguided as its counterpart. [00:28] That doesn't prevent rape. [00:28] if a woman figures out a way to rape me, she would have the kid, not me... [00:28] it makes it more enjoyable [00:28] nah [00:28] they have ways [00:28] habaneros (n=habanero@pool-71-101-38-110.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:28] if a man rapes me, I'm sure it'll hurt, but I won't have a baby [00:28] we'll just get aids! [00:28] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-72-82-76-165.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:28] i mean you'll* [00:28] it might feel like you just had one after [00:29] LOL!! [00:29] anyway most of you don't know it, but no woman will ever be attracted to me for my looks or personality [00:29] just as bad [00:29] elderK (n=zk@125-238-255-127.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) left ##slackware. [00:29] "Then she stretched my lip over my head." [00:29] loll [00:29] if I ever have sex again, it'll be because I've gotten rich (women are attracted to money) [00:29] Urchlay: luckily for you, no woman is ever attracted to a man for his looks or personality. [00:29] so what, other than money, would attract them? [00:30] unless her name is Jim [00:30] social gain. [00:30] resources in general. [00:30] heh. I have zero social skills. [00:30] same here [00:31] I went out for a girl for 3 years only for her to dump me because I am an atheist [00:31] ouch [00:31] yep [00:31] i would just lie [00:31] logickills: i bet that's around the time her friends stopped saying nice things about you. [00:31] logickills: unless you wanna take it further [00:31] lol [00:32] No it is about the same time her parents found out I have secular viewpoints [00:32] easiest way to break up a couple is to talk shit to her friends. i wouldn't ever do that, but i've seen it. [00:33] logickills: I've dumped a girl before because she didn't believe in my lack of beliefs. Her attitude was "Oh, you're just saying you're an atheist, but you really know better" [00:33] logickills: her folks were fundamentalist? [00:33] takes away the knight in shining armor syndrome. everyone loves knights in shining armor, so you must not be a knight in shining armor :P [00:33] caoliver: No they are just ignorant [00:33] Fundies usually are. [00:33] problem wasn't that we had different beliefs, it was that she thought I was a hyprocrite. Can't abide that. [00:33] Yep [00:34] ok im not getting annnny help in #ati [00:34] Yea she was not a crazy fundie. Until her parents found out about me [00:35] They told her I was a bad influence. [00:35] Three years seems long time for that to come to a boil. [00:35] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:35] Tell me about it [00:35] That is what makes it worse [00:35] logickills: oh, neat, you watched her identity morph into something totally different in a way that was undetectable somehow for her? lol i have one of those [00:35] lol [00:36] that's ok, when the argument is over, it'll morph back, and she won't remember the difference. [00:36] Then she gave me an ultimatum : let god into my life and I can be with her [00:36] heh [00:36] so I told her I was going to let god, and all the other apostles into my fireplace [00:36] 'hey baby, lets praise jesus together. now bend over' [00:36] lol [00:37] tell her "I will let you keep dating me if you start believing in dragons, elves, and honest politicians" [00:37] lol [00:37] I just have to let the shit go [00:37] And the tooth fairy. We mustn't forget about the toth fairy. [00:38] no way man. start reading the qu'ran and shave your head and start recruiting people for 'conversion missions' that no one is allowed to talk about. :D [00:38] Hint: that's just as batshit crazy as her little occult. [00:38] That would not be healthy today. [00:38] screw that. I think organized religion is responsible for the worst parts of human history, no way I'd be doing their work for them. [00:39] life with no bacon..the horror....:C [00:39] i know, right? [00:40] MLanden: funny thing. Lapsed jew who runs a world famous deli in my state wrote a book on the virtues of bacon. [00:40] mmm, bacon [00:41] caoliver, that I could believe [00:44] http://www.zingermanspress.com/guide-to-better-bacon [00:45] right now I'd even settle for bacon bits [00:45] got salad-making stuff, but not that [00:46] I'd better not talk about my local butcher's thick double smokes bacon. Oops.... I already did. [00:47] how long can bagels & cream cheese sit in a freezer without going bad? [00:47] y [00:47] I don't know. I didn't think cream cheese froze well. [00:48] i was about to say the same thing [00:48] for that matter, how do you get from frozen cream cheese to something you can spread with a knife? [00:48] microwave? [00:48] i think frozen cream cheese is "from the freezer to the garbage can" [00:48] worth finding out if it separates when it thaws [00:48] in a science project sense [00:48] well I'm not the one who put it in the freezer [00:48] shadowx, it does [00:49] I just found it there... [00:49] Urchlay, just thaw it [00:49] Random food encountered in freezer. [00:49] if it looks ok, just use it [00:49] heh [00:50] lot of food in the freezer that's been here since before I moved in [00:50] (ain't roommates fun?) [00:50] seriously? [00:50] Urchlay, Is there a picture of little Billy on it...think he's been found by now ..whoops that's milk [00:50] actually billy probably died of old age [00:51] This is almost as fun as the apple cider biology experiment I've got. [00:51] nobody does volcanoes anymore? [00:51] it's a science fair classic [00:51] Urchlay, microwave the cream cheese [00:52] Actually I shoulkd feed it some bread dough to see if I got a top fermenting yeast. [00:52] just to see what it does [00:52] seems like a bad idea [00:52] Actually, I had a grape starter about seven years ago that made excellent bread. [00:53] eh, what exactly is a grape starter? [00:53] But my father got terminally ill, and with his hospice, I had no time, and the starter died. [00:53] Dough mass with wild yeast raised from grapes. [00:54] Sort of a basic sourdough. [00:55] You save about half a pound of the dough from the bread you're making, and that serves to raise the next batch. [00:55] it's good for making bread or alcohol [00:56] caoliver, you can keep that going forever [00:56] Yup. With grape starter, you start by making bad (generally) wine, then shift from the fruit sugar to flour. [00:56] Yeah. If you ignore it too long, the yeast and lactobacilli die. [00:57] you can also capture wild yeast by making a ball of dough and leaving it in an open window for 2 days [00:57] i forget where i read it, but there's a way of keeping it so that it lasts [00:57] scroo dis, eating hot pockets [00:57] yosi: That's certainly a traditional pain au levain, but that's never worked for me. [00:57] I have some grape juice that is about to expire in the fridge and ive often thought of just leaving it in the windowsill. [00:58] for like 3 months [00:59] You start with organic or untended grapes, 'cos they get yeast growing on their skins.\ [00:59] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:59] oh, so if i just let grape juice spoil it won't make some kind of liquor? [00:59] i' not brave enough for experiments like that; i always figure the reason there were ancient civilizations that left no record was because of stuff just like that [00:59] Grape juice is likely to have been pasteurized and rendered free of precisely the lovelies your trying to get. [01:00] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-156-251.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] i dont want yeast [01:00] i want my brain to be numb [01:00] build a still [01:00] a what? [01:00] a still [01:00] a still what? [01:00] distillation thingy [01:00] that would be neat [01:00] I think the most you'll get via natural fermentation is 14%. You need to distill for higher proof. [01:00] make high-proof booze [01:01] i've got the space for it [01:01] from just about anything [01:01] Just beware of methanol. [01:01] sIRC (n=sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:01] methanol? [01:01] mouthwash, right? [01:01] don't blow yourself up [01:01] oh [01:01] Or you'll need a nice supply of white canes. [01:01] no, i think caoliver means blowing your house up [01:02] caoliver, do you mean that bathtub gin/go blind stuff? [01:02] If you blow your house up trying to distill alcohol, you're doing it wrong. [01:02] LOL [01:02] yeah [01:02] one would guess [01:02] It's trivially easy to make drinkable alcohol. [01:02] shonudo: yep. [01:02] dude that would be a killer attraction for parties having a distillery in my kitchen. god i have been wondering what to do with this huge open space i have there for months now [01:02] It's quite difficult to make *good* drinkable alcohol. [01:03] I'd just as soon buy a good brandy. [01:03] rworkman: Righto. [01:03] dartmouth, just beware the revenuers....:D [01:03] i wouldn't do anything like that inside my house, dartmouth [01:03] i'd do it in a, ah, "disposable building" [01:03] rworkman: some times, the greats fail. Got a bottle of flat Champagne this evening. [01:03] shonudo: if i go huff all the methanol once in a while i should be fine right [01:03] caoliver: hehe [01:04] rworkman: The seller got me a replacement, but I was going home from the bash by then. [01:04] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-156-251.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:05] Critters are staring me in the eye. I think I need to take them out. [01:05] Well, it's the thought that counts. [01:05] caoliver: take what out; your eyes? [01:06] dartmouth, if you're even mildly interested in knowing how to set up a still, i'm sure you could find it online [01:06] the right metals to use [01:06] the right temps [01:06] etc [01:06] shonudo: im going to start researching it first thing when i get a working Xorg [01:06] dude, good luck with that [01:06] Def. [01:06] how did the ati channel work for you? [01:06] it didn't [01:06] it's dead [01:09] now now [01:09] im trying one more thing; im upgrading to the kernel in testing/ and seeing if everything fits into place; if not, im going on a two day warcraft binge and looking at it again with fresh eyes. [01:09] why aren't you asleep [01:09] santa won't bring you any presents if you're awake [01:09] or purchase an nvidia card [01:09] and use their drivers [01:09] which work [01:09] santa didn't schedule me for an overnight shift tomorrow [01:09] yosi (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:10] shonudo: i'll trade you a sapphire radeon hd 5770 for an nvidia equivelant :D [01:10] lol [01:10] i'll bet you will [01:10] it really is a damn good card [01:10] without drivers, it's a box of q-tips [01:10] once it is supported :/ [01:10] ya [01:10] expensive q-tips [01:11] expensive q-tips that can do math :D [01:11] ha! [01:11] seriously, i still don't get why amd acquired ATI [01:12] i get the CPU/GPU integration thing [01:12] but they haven't squared away the ATI thing [01:12] dartmouth: take out the critters. (dogs) [01:13] in lilo, is the lba32 option the same as large-memory? [01:14] dartmouth: It's a shame you're not near by. I've not had that bad luck installing fglrx. [01:14] neither have i [01:14] till now i mean [01:14] What changed? [01:14] i think its because i went with such a new card [01:14] What version of catalyst are you using? [01:14] 9-12 [01:15] Ok. I've not tried that yet. My ATI equipped box is still running 9.11. [01:15] i'd be willing to bet 9.11 doesn't support the 5770 [01:16] dartmouth, if you're not worried about wasting a bit of time, have you tried different drivers? [01:16] no i haven't yet [01:16] might be the way to go [01:16] i assumed other prop drivers wouldn't work [01:16] dartmouth: phoronix has an amd git repo fwiw [01:17] Rat409: im not sure what to get from that [01:17] ahh me either [01:17] nvidia here [01:18] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [01:18] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-72-82-76-165.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:18] Ewww! Those ARE new chips. [01:18] ati must have forum somewhere [01:19] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-72-82-76-165.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:19] yeah, you should be able to find a forum of some sort [01:19] surprised they're not here (freenode) [01:21] dartmouth, why did you opt for an ATI card? [01:21] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. 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[01:50] Happy holidays, acidchild [01:50] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:50] MLanden: :D [01:50] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:51] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [01:54] j0z- (n=j0z@187.58.247.64) joined ##slackware. [01:55] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:56] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:57] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [01:58] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [01:59] What's the name of that program that lets you explore which folders are taking up all the spaceo n your HD? [02:00] redtricycle: you mean in a gui ? [02:00] yes [02:00] I know df -H for partitions.. [02:00] i forgot the name ! i used it before [02:00] but not per folder [02:00] du -h [02:00] per folder [02:00] for* [02:00] it gets really verbose [02:00] ok [02:00] well [02:01] redtricycle, gtk or qt program? [02:01] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-3-239.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [02:02] MLanden: gtk [02:02] I can do du --max-depth=1 -h, I suppose.. [02:03] ok [02:04] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [02:04] ah, filelight [02:06] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:07] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn47.78-99-109.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [02:11] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:12] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-78-32.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:12] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [02:13] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:16] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:16] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [02:21] redtricycle, ncdu is a similar program for the commandline. it's good. [02:22] ohh, awesome [02:22] let me check that out [02:23] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:23] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [02:29] redtricycle, i believe it's on SBo [02:29] martinus (n=martinus@125.164.225.78) joined ##slackware. [02:30] hii excusme, where i can find sysctl.conf in my slackware ??? [02:32] martinus, not sure, but try `locate sysctl.conf` and if that doesn't work, `find / -name "sysctl.conf` as root [02:32] root@gafa:~# slocate sysctl.conf [02:32] /usr/man/man5/sysctl.conf.5.gz [02:32] root@gafa:~# [02:33] nothing find :( [02:34] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:35] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [02:36] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:37] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [02:38] martinus (n=martinus@125.164.225.78) left irc: "Leaving" [02:40] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start" [02:43] yosi (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:46] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:46] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[02:59] Rat409 (n=me@bb-205-209-95-71.gwi.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:00] filelight seems to search for files way faster than ncdu -- like almost 5 to 10 times faster [03:00] I wonder why [03:00] I tried them both out [03:02] not sure, haven't compared them [03:08] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.159) left irc: "Leaving" [03:11] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:12] The-Crou1ier (n=agapi@77.49.252.60.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:13] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) joined ##slackware. [03:13] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:15] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [03:15] j0z- (n=j0z@187.58.247.64) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:18] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-108.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:22] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [03:23] The-Crou1ier (n=agapi@77.49.252.60.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:23] The-Crou1ier (n=agapi@77.49.252.60.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:25] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.159) joined ##slackware. [03:26] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:27] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:33] spider1010 (n=spider10@ip98-179-13-1.om.om.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:36] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-122-11-189.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:38] ydooW (n=klop@87.241.171.7) joined ##slackware. [03:38] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:39] hi, could anyone help me please with configuring ktalkd in slackware 13? [03:39] no , it's christmas [03:40] give us a break [03:40] oh.. [03:40] pity [03:40] just wanted to know why it's missing from /usr/bin [03:46] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [03:48] The-Croupier (n=agapi@188.4.24.253.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:48] Geeks. Lurking around on IRC on the Christmas Day. Well, Merry Christmas! Hope Santa will bring us girlfriend and social skills other than "whois" [03:50] i hope so [03:51] i'm tired of using my hand already [03:52] mornin where's my gifts? :) [03:53] ydooW uncomment ktalk line in /etc/inetd.conf [03:53] PurpleSmurf: Quinzos don't get gifts they get eaten! [03:53] :P [03:54] ah [03:54] how ya doin? [03:54] PurpleSmurf: i did so. but ktalkd is missing in /usr/bin [03:54] PurpleSmurf: alright i guess... still up , and you ? [03:54] ydooW check in usr/sbin too [03:55] just awoke, meal with mom, her mom, and step dad today. [03:55] cool [03:55] yea [03:55] you? [03:55] it's 1am , nothing happening [03:55] Action: urthwrm has a girlfriend [03:55] yay a geek in relationship! :) [03:56] PurpleSmurf: it's not there. find doesn't find any *ktalkd* [03:56] PurpleSmurf: only couple of png's and one svgz [03:56] ok; grep -l ktalk /var/adm/packages/* (-ELL) [03:57] PurpleSmurf: no matches [03:57] ok it's not installed [03:57] PurpleSmurf: i did a full install [03:58] vehn_z (n=vehn_z@62.133.183.135) joined ##slackware. [03:58] hmm, not in my pack*/* either but it's installed. [03:58] yesterday, I commented this gentoo wallpaper: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Another+Gentoo+Wallpaper?content=117483 and just several hours after that, the guy have send me: [03:58] wierd [03:58] http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Another+Slackware+Wallpaper?content=117585 [03:58] ydooW oops [03:59] ydooW it's in kdenetwork [03:59] qneo: oh wow he actually made you one lol [03:59] ydooW reinstall that package [03:59] PurpleSmurf: just a sec... [03:59] deco: yes :) I liked the colors [04:00] pope "taken down" -- abc talking head babe, pre-mornin news :LOL [04:01] qneo: yeah it's nice :) [04:02] PurpleSmurf: while it's being downloaded, should i removepkg and then installpkg again? because it's currently installed, but no ktalk mentioned in it's /var/adm/packages/kdenetwork.. [04:02] sure go ahead [04:02] PurpleSmurf: are you in the east coast ? [04:02] yea [04:02] Fla. [04:03] PurpleSmurf: ah ok that's way :P [04:03] The-Crou1ier (n=agapi@77.49.252.60.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:03] why what? [04:03] ydooW strangeness [04:03] PurpleSmurf: you're up [04:03] dont use be as a baraometer of what others do :) [04:03] oops [04:03] dont use me as barometer of what others do :) [04:03] hmmmm [04:04] my sleep/wakeing schedule is quite strange [04:04] PurpleSmurf: what time is it ? [04:04] 04h [04:04] PurpleSmurf: well i know a guy that wakes up at 3am [04:04] yea [04:04] PurpleSmurf: can i see a list of files in tzx package before installing it? [04:04] PurpleSmurf: but i know what you mean hehe :P [04:05] ydooW yea tar tf name [04:06] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [04:08] deco yesterday i made myself a killer-soup; it was excellent [04:08] PurpleSmurf: hmmm what did it have ? [04:09] hamburger meat, copped up hot pepper (a big one), chopped tomato, chicken broth from a box, kosher salt, black pepper, cumin. [04:09] it was awesomely spicy, just the way i like [04:10] the pepper was for its capsacizin content [04:10] pain relief. [04:10] the soup burned really goodly [04:10] hehe nice [04:11] PurpleSmurf: there are no *talk* matches in kdenetwork i just downloaded. should i try one from slackware-current instead of slackware-13.0? [04:12] i even got some of the pepper oil on my fingers; i did wash after, but i rubed my eye and boy did that burn goodly too LOL [04:12] ydooW weirdness; what distver? [04:12] PurpleSmurf: 13.0 32 bit. full install. the same at ftp. [04:12] k [04:13] umm [04:13] PurpleSmurf: lol [04:13] PurpleSmurf: i'm downloading a newer one from -current, but i'm not sure if it will work. in case it really includes kltalkd [04:13] kl? i've never seen that prefix [04:13] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.19) joined ##slackware. [04:13] ktalkd [04:13] yeah. ktalkd [04:13] k [04:14] mako (n=mako@81.22.24.129) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:15] ydooW did you rm currently installed package yet? [04:15] PurpleSmurf: not yet. i just checked the one i downloaded for the presence of ktalkd, and thought it doesn't make sense to reinstall if it doesn't [04:15] if you do, use -preserve; review manpage first [04:16] PurpleSmurf: oh, thanks for the tip [04:16] yw [04:17] PurpleSmurf: anyway, it's not present in the newer version too. [04:18] which mirror are you using? [04:18] weirdness [04:18] PurpleSmurf: osuosl [04:18] urthwrm (n=urthwrm@124-170-224-88.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [04:18] ok; check from the homesite [04:19] j0z- (n=j0z@201.47.10.2) joined ##slackware. [04:19] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:20] PurpleSmurf: same thing there [04:20] i dont get it [04:20] this is nutiness [04:21] PurpleSmurf: do you have one installed? in 13.0? [04:21] ok; grep -l bin/ktalk /var/adm/packages/* [04:21] i'm on 12.2 but that is not relevent [04:21] not matches [04:21] PurpleSmurf: i do have it installed and working in 12.2 [04:22] but you didnt rmpkg kdenetwork yet? [04:22] PurpleSmurf: on another computer [04:22] ok [04:22] PurpleSmurf: no, luckily i didn't;o) [04:22] yea [04:22] hold on lemme chk my archive/ [04:23] PurpleSmurf: ok [04:24] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [04:24] High_Priest (n=MMF@nat/ibm/x-eeoelcbdmzpslswc) joined ##slackware. [04:26] ydooW ok; it's not in my 13.0 archive. [04:26] high priest!!! [04:26] LTNS!! [04:27] evo- (n=evo@p5B2FF1DA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:27] PurpleSmurf: looks like they removed it from kdenetwork, but inetd.conf isn't updated [04:27] yea [04:27] to reflect that [04:28] so i have no way to have it working under kde? [04:28] not ktalk, no [04:28] grep -l talk [04:28] bin/talk [04:28] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.193.234) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:28] in packages/ [04:28] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:30] PurpleSmurf: i have /usr/sbin/in.talkd [04:30] ok [04:30] that's the std daemon [04:31] PurpleSmurf: i guess so. so i can propably uncomment the lines with it, and comment the one's about ktalkd [04:31] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.93.27) joined ##slackware. [04:32] but in.talk isnt ktalk [04:32] where the hell did talk come from etymologoically? weirdness!!! [04:33] tawk [04:33] lol [04:33] brb [04:33] PurpleSmurf: ok, thanks anyway [04:33] coffee [04:34] k [04:36] well alienBOB is the closest one to }Pat who is here [04:36] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [04:36] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:36] tawk to him. [04:36] or email pat directly. [04:38] wow it's raining! who ordered that? [04:38] o_o [04:39] PurpleSmurf: thanks, that's what i just wanted to ask;o) [04:40] PurpleSmurf (i=1000@c-68-56-209-186.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:40] ydooW (n=klop@87.241.171.7) left ##slackware. [04:41] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-104-121.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [04:43] PurpleSmurf (i=1000@c-68-56-209-186.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:44] blackout!!! and fsck's forced [04:44] Merry Christmas [04:44] ty, back at ya [04:45] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-108.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [04:47] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:49] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:59] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.87.105) joined ##slackware. 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[06:00] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [06:03] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:05] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-252-115.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:08] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [06:14] byteframe heh [06:14] more like hmm [06:14] byteframe on opt, try it. [06:15] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [06:15] ? [06:15] options line [06:15] No comprendo. [06:15] the snd line [06:15] above [06:15] j0z- (n=j0z@201.47.10.2) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:15] Sound line? Biggadi boooo.... [06:15] lol [06:15] sound.conf [06:16] i'm trying not to type much but you're ruining my joy :) [06:16] see what yo umade me do? [06:16] made me type a complete sentence [06:16] Oh right yes. [06:16] bastage [06:16] :) [06:16] where's my cluebat [06:17] I tried that and alsa-base. didnt take. No big whoop, Ill just assume the other pos 5 dollar sound card can be in index 0. [06:17] ok [06:17] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:17] you do that [06:19] PurpleSmurf, tell me a wonderous christmas story... [06:19] oh btw, i once heard a minister of the gospel say that `privately, all the leaders of the arab nations that surround Israel KNOW what God hath wrought, but cant admit that publically.' (pseudo-quot, was said publically tho) [06:19] (just told in ##Politics [06:19] nheco (n=nheco@200-102-254-49.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:19] PurpleSmurf, yay or nay on HR 3590? [06:19] the health fiasco? [06:20] i'm a conservative. [06:20] All the same shit buddy, what's your vote? [06:20] on the health bill voted 60-39, add my nay vote. [06:20] ?Porque? [06:21] the latest vote in the Senate was 60-39; i'd vote nay. [06:21] Why? [06:21] (if you dont mind) [06:22] bc no because all acts of legislatures apply ONLY to corporations, trusts, partnerships which are made/registered by/to Legislature; and, .. [06:23] because the supremes said that "citizen has the same meaning as \"subject to\" in te 14th amendment; and, [06:23] because legislatures can only make law which applies to what they own, who they employee (civil/military personnel) [06:23] non-civil, non-military People are the source of right, power, authority which legislatures exercise; and, [06:24] we the People are not subject (14th) to congress. [06:24] that's why my "vote" is nay. [06:24] so no health care reform cause the law said so? [06:24] and because of the fraud, lying and deceit, [06:24] s/,/./ [06:25] bc fundamental law (const) says so. [06:25] Action: byteframe proceeds to go smoke his christmas pipe by the buring log on tv, and shall process said stuff you just said. [06:25] the govt in DC, the federal govt... [06:25] wait [06:25] the govt in DC, the federal govt is constitutionally not allowed to be "introverted" (looking towards the states) except in very specific situations. [06:26] however, there is a way that all this is legal which NO ONE recognises, much less comprehend. [06:26] [done] [06:26] i'll finish later [06:26] Ill check it out. [06:26] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:26] k [06:26] thanks for asking. [06:27] nheco (n=nheco@200-102-254-49.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:28] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Operation timed out [06:29] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30C8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [06:32] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [06:33] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. 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[07:34] Axius (n=fim@92.84.3.123) joined ##slackware. [07:39] john_dee (n=id@95-29-145-25.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:41] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [07:42] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:52] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:53] i wonder how many people got new laptops & desktops will be in today to fix their fresh slackware installs [07:53] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:54] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@adsl-074-236-254-006.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:56] lol Pig_Pen [07:57] I guess, there will be more questions on #*buntu [07:57] lots more [07:57] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [07:59] Axius (n=fim@92.84.3.123) left irc: Connection timed out [08:02] wow. check out #windows bot attack :) [08:05] ydooW (n=klop@87.241.171.7) left irc: "leaving" [08:07] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:10] How can I use a webcam in my slack 13? [08:11] corey (n=corey@adsl-99-56-123-92.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [08:11] merciful_, use how? to video chat with someone? [08:12] High_Priest: first just capture movie [08:12] merciful_, you load appropriate module and start video recording software [08:12] Nick change: merciful_ -> merciful [08:13] High_Priest: Is the module not loaded when I plug in de cam? [08:13] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:14] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [08:14] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:15] Razec (i=1000@187-27-206-254.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:15] jomo (n=mich@p3EE206A7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [08:16] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [08:16] merciful, that depends.. check dmesg | tail -n 20 [08:16] after you plug in the cam [08:17] High_Priest: I did, it's loaded. Now find the display software. [08:18] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [08:19] merciful, check: http://www.linux.com/news/hardware/peripherals/8211-five-fun-ways-to-use-a-linux-webcam [08:22] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:22] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.90.127) joined ##slackware. [08:23] Rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:23] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:24] Sorry about last night, the kids where using the laptop, didnt see they had manged to start the irc client, so it was fighting over the access with the irc bouncer :( [08:24] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:25] nihilstar (n=nihil@89.123.59.133) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [08:25] merry_Xmas (n=nome@92.49.77.213) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:25] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [08:27] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:28] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:29] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:29] Karu (n=alch@78-28-89-122.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [08:30] Rachael, or maybe they did and they were in some sleazy sex chat channel ASL'ing ppl [08:30] Karu (n=alch@78-28-89-122.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left ##slackware. [08:30] The-Crou1ier (n=agapi@62.1.149.46.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:32] lulz! [08:33] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:34] oobe: hmmm, can think of worse nets than freenode for that [08:34] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [08:34] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:34] yea me too but since this is make believe they were on those nets [08:35] The-Croupier (n=agapi@188.4.24.253.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [08:36] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.95.159) left irc: "Leaving" [08:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsZL10oxPwY make believe? [08:38] pim_ (n=pim_@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [08:39] Hello, do you think Slackware Linux for Dummies would still be worth buying, as it focuses on version 7] [08:39] only if you're a dummy [08:39] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:40] you might be better off with the links in /topic slackbook & etc... [08:41] I really just want to buy a book, how about Slackware Linux essentials second edition? [08:42] not only would it be free, it would also be more up to date [08:42] yeah that would do, buy the book from slackware.com store [08:42] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:42] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Client Quit [08:44] I think I'll buy it from amazon [08:45] comp_ (n=root@89.47.86.13) joined ##slackware. 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[08:51] vehn_z1 (n=vehn_z@62.133.183.135) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:52] Rachael, just thinking about what we were talking about b4 why dont you make a login account for the kids that has different irc setting etc. as all relevent auto connect stuff for most clitents is set in ~/. [08:54] soccerfan (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:55] heh the slackware linux essentials book actually explains how things work on a slackware system [08:55] didn't find that in my book about ubuntu [08:55] NthDegree_ (n=nth@88-107-184-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [08:56] NthDegree_ (n=nth@88-107-184-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Client Quit [08:56] Webcam problem. Get I/O error with ffmpeg. http://pastebin.com/d1d728b12 [08:56] if you learn ubuntu you only know ubuntu, if you use fedora you only know fedora, but if you learn slackware then you learn Linux! [08:59] vehn_z1 (n=vehn_z@62.133.183.135) joined ##slackware. [08:59] Anthony__ (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [09:00] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:04] glarb (i=1000@c-68-42-189-210.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:05] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:07] pim_, i wouldnt expect a ubuntu book to explain who stuff works in a slackware system :P [09:08] if you learn slackware and how linux really works, then you can pretty much use any distro around and actually understand what their fancy tools does [09:10] linXea, i agree totally [09:11] i used slackware after trying a few others when i first learnt linux [09:11] sahk00 (n=quassel@ppp-94-68-154-119.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:11] i later started using many other distros and was shocked at how ignorant general users of xyz distros were [09:11] how long does it take for me to learn how to use slackware [09:11] I started woth slackware 8 back in 2002... [09:11] for someone who has never used linux before [09:11] *with [09:12] NthDegree_ (n=nth@88-107-184-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [09:12] one of my pet hates is when ppl phrase generic linux questions in distro specific ways [09:12] mhm [09:13] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-80-29.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [09:13] I really dislike when people says that slackware is hard and the newbies worst nightmare. It's simply not true. [09:14] so if i were to pick up slackware just to learn how to use linux in general [09:14] how long do u think it would take for me to understand the ins and outs of it [09:14] most things work out of the box and the rest is pretty simple to figure out. Trying to learn yast, pacman or aptitude are even more confusing [09:15] i guess ill give slackware a try :p [09:16] i think its a great foundation for learning linux [09:16] hows the driver support for slackware? [09:16] no matter what you end up using in the future [09:16] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:16] brucelee, same as any other distro [09:16] remember to read the slackbook when you get in trouble. 98% of all things you could get into are explained there [09:16] the drivers are in the linux kernel [09:16] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:17] is it a good idea for me to install slackware on a vm [09:17] yes.. [09:17] and use windows as the host operating system [09:18] you could try it [09:18] shouldn't matter ... [09:18] i would do it the other way around, install slackware on bare metal, and use windows as a guest OS in virtualbox [09:18] Pig_Pen, i dont know anything about linux/slackware [09:18] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-184-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:19] Pig_Pen, starting slackware in VB is a great start imo [09:19] then doing it vice versa .. [09:19] alreadygone (n=silas@119.154.4.52) joined ##slackware. [09:23] the scroller in my mouse seems to be loosing traction [09:23] anyone know how to fix it [09:23] rapid_ (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [09:25] a new mouse isn't that expensive? [09:25] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:25] depends on the mouse ;) [09:26] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:26] BP{k}: well at leaste you can still type, thats a good sighn [09:27] thought that Ardbeg would of had you in bed the entire day [09:28] Scuzz: nah, since I am actually on co-codamol . I only took a tiny wee dram on Ardbeg. :) [09:28] lol [09:28] it only started happening about 10 mins ago cant go buy one right now as its 1am on a public holiday :P [09:29] but yes im already looking at mice on ebay [09:29] raela (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [09:29] oobe: you tried cleaning it? [09:29] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [09:30] hehe don't open it before you have a replacement [09:30] no but thats the sort of suggestion i was looking for good idea [09:30] or else you might have to search ebay with gopher :-P [09:30] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:30] pfft. I have many times take my logitech trackman apart to clean them out [09:30] alreadygone (n=silas@119.154.4.52) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:30] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:31] BP{k}: you and me both [09:33] M1ck_ (n=mick@ALagny-153-1-68-138.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [09:34] mouse seems all better now [09:34] i just found out looking at my model number the middle mouse button is not supported [09:35] which explains why i couldnt get it to middle button cp paste [09:35] OpenSysHTC (n=vs@95.69.72.180) joined ##slackware. [09:35] http://imagebin.org/76843 i just pasted this with the middle mouse button on a logitech (not a trackman) [09:35] Axius (n=ade@92.82.76.172) joined ##slackware. [09:35] damn spoke to soon is messed up again [09:36] Axius (n=ade@92.82.76.172) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:36] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:36] Mick_ (n=mick@ALagny-153-1-68-138.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:38] i mostly want to learn linux so i can be more employable ;p [09:38] is there any value in learning slackware for this prupose, or even learning linux in general, or just focus on powershell/windows :p [09:38] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [09:38] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection timed out [09:40] brucelee: winbloz teaches learned helplessness; linux empowers you [09:40] brucelee, unix sys admins are often required and high paid atleast where i live however there will always be a higher demand to MS certified ppl [09:40] sure, knowledge is power, or would you rather have to rely on others to pre-configure how your operating system functions and unable to change it because either you dont know how or unable to learn how because it is closed source [09:42] yeah but i dont have unlimited time to learn everything :D [09:43] learn what you can, nobody learns it all in one day, i been using Linux for over 8 years and i still learn new things about Linux [09:44] were talking about an OS (not just the kernel) an OS that has several gigs of data, & hundreds of packages [09:45] brucelee, the bottom line is if you want to learn enough about linux to get an excellent job with responsabilty then you will most likely fail [09:45] im not trying to discourage you [09:45] but there is no fast way to get all the skills you need to apply for any *nix jobs worth doing [09:45] in a short time frame that is [09:46] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [09:46] brucelee, in order to get a better idea of what you want to achieve have a look at your local job network website for keyword linux see what comes up [09:47] then look at the list of responibilitys and required experience and skills [09:47] if your jsut learning linux for a beeter looking resume you will fail as oobe has said. It requires patience and a willlingness to larn [09:47] i need coffee i cant spell quite yet [09:48] brucelee: i only been using slackware for a couple of years and i still feel like a n0ob [09:49] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:50] Mick_ (n=mick@ALagny-153-1-68-138.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [09:50] i got in to Linux because i got tired of watching win98 BSOD and nothing i can do to fix it other than a clean install of win98 but that does nothing to fix windows [09:51] lol [09:52] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:52] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:54] bah santa didnt give me what i wanted for christmas [09:54] a Daisy RedRider BB gun? [09:54] haha [09:55] no vbatts kde 4.3.85 packages [09:55] i was hoping to see them [09:56] mohaa (n=nome@92.49.90.127) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:56] anyone know the average amount of updates to -current (in MB)? [09:56] (per day) [09:56] dissociative (n=alejandr@190.102.210.84) joined ##slackware. [09:57] no [09:58] I have a desktop pc with slackware but I cant use the graphics display now and the only way I can use it is trhough a network connection with a laptop and I cant remember which ip configuration had it [09:58] i can't understand what you're saying it's very hard [09:59] Ifconfig comannd [09:59] raelaa (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] raelaa (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:59] OpenSysHTC: the only think that I got working until now is the network physical layer [10:00] is slackware compatible with the via c3 processor? [10:00] the computer doesnt has a working display now [10:00] raelaa (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:00] raelaa (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:00] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:00] the last time that I did remote access I didnt check how its network interfaces were configured at boot [10:01] nbnl (n=nbnl@93-173-219-129.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. [10:01] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:01] until now I dont have way to ssh to it again [10:02] brb [10:02] raelaa (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:02] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:02] dissociative, so what you are asking is how to find out what the ip address is of the machine with no graphics card? [10:02] raelaa (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:02] yes [10:02] nbnl (n=nbnl@93-173-219-129.bb.netvision.net.il) left ##slackware. [10:02] Guest23318 (n=pim_@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [10:03] I hope it has one configured [10:03] dissociative, thats easy use nmap to scan ur local network and find all host that are up [10:03] i dont know the exact command [10:03] dissociative: cant you jsut check your router [10:03] should show assigned ips [10:03] yea thats even easier [10:03] I dont have a router, I´m using a crossover cable [10:04] ok use nmap [10:04] does it matter which is the ip configuration of the computer where Im now? [10:05] for discovering other hosts with nmap? [10:05] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:05] NthDegree_ (n=nth@88-107-184-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:05] dissociative, here is an example of what i mean "nmap -sP 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.15" [10:05] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-184-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [10:06] this would check only if the host is up for that ip range [10:06] raelaa (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:06] but yes i think you need to be able to access the same network range [10:07] so uh, trying to switch out my irssi setup.. even though I changed the config, it's still putting my chans in the old, wrong windows [10:07] BP{k}: ='( [10:07] like this chan is going to window 13 instead of 5 [10:07] john_dee (n=id@95-29-145-25.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [10:07] Camarade_Tux, the changelog is published publically [10:08] theres no standard though [10:09] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [10:09] thrice`: was interested in the bandwidth used (for a friend with a quota) [he's a debianer but we're slowly helping him see the light :P ) [10:09] dissociative, i should of said "nmap -sP 192.168.1.1/15" [10:09] s/)$/]/ [10:10] sure, but my point is, it's incredibly inconsistant, and your guess by reading the changelog is probably just as good/bad as anyone elses :> [10:10] spiko (i=1000@89-212-173-113.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [10:11] but the changelog doesn't give the size of updates :D (anyway, I know it's small enough, was just curious) [10:12] OpenSysHTC (n=vs@95.69.72.180) left irc: "Bye" [10:12] ok, i'll read through the changelog, and check all file sizes, and then I'll sum them up and divide by the number of updates for you [10:13] lol [10:13] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:14] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:14] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [10:15] Stupid question, but I installed the first Slackware 12 cd, and can't startx. I installed fluxbox,but is xorg-server installed? Where can I install it as a slackwrae pkg? [10:16] gartt, slackpkg install x ? [10:16] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:17] spiko: I can't find anything at [10:17] gartt: x is in cd2 [10:17] linuxpackages.net which begins with x. Is there another site to use? [10:18] sahk00: Yeah, CD2 was never made [10:18] thrice`: s/updates/days/ xD [10:18] yeah you should do it [10:18] thrice`: want a chocolate? :-) [10:18] or maybe use slackpkg [10:18] And figured it couldn't be that bad to install the stuff myself since that's what I always have to do in a gentoo install anyway [10:18] let's try kernel 2.6.33-rc2, fixes a few nouveau bugs [10:19] evo_ (n=evo@p5B2FBC2F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Don't mind your make-up, make your mind up!" [10:19] Camarade_Tux: I have a quota as well, I just use vnstat plus vdstat (my own scripted frontend) to keep track of it. It does mean if something big like KDE hit I have to just download it over multiple days [10:20] High_Priest (n=MMF@nat/ibm/x-eeoelcbdmzpslswc) left irc: "Leaving" [10:20] gartt, use the slackpkg command as root [10:20] pim_ (n=pim_@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:20] SepehrLajevardi (n=sepehr@unaffiliated/lajevardi) joined ##slackware. [10:20] BP{k}: how big is your quota? [10:21] SepehrLajevardi (n=sepehr@unaffiliated/lajevardi) left ##slackware. [10:21] spiko: I do, it's just a matter of finding the packages [10:21] you can choose xorg-server from there [10:21] Camarade_Tux: 3GB a day, but my ISP are retarded primates. so I tend to keep it to shy about 2GB a day bcause they can't measure [10:21] spiko: I don't mean building, I mean installing. I guess I just need X [10:22] spiko: Well, first I've gotta find the xorg-server package [10:22] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.53.231.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [10:22] BP{k}, --exclude="kde*" :) [10:22] gartt: slackpkg install x [10:22] thrice`: negative. [10:23] BP{k}: well, my friend has a 800MB-1.6GB quota at uni (but he also has the admin rights to remove the quota :D ) [10:23] sahk00 (n=quassel@ppp-94-68-154-119.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:23] Wow, I don't even have slackpkg installed.. [10:23] thrice`: while I don't use KDE, I do sorta look at it from time to time, butI run a full mirror of 12.2, 13.0, and -current (both 32/64) [10:23] are you root? [10:23] Camarade_Tux: then what's the problem? [10:24] nv4Phil (n=phil@c-69-137-66-177.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:24] fdisk is a pretty neat tool [10:24] Yes, root [10:24] gartt, i think you can download it from http://www.slackpkg.org/download.html [10:24] Nick change: Guest23318 -> pim_ [10:25] alreadygone (n=silas@119.154.4.52) joined ##slackware. [10:25] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:26] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:26] does anyone know of some specific example's of how a irc client running as root can be exploited [10:26] hi, if a new version of a software is released, then when can one expect to have the latest version available in Slackbuilds.org? [10:26] i have heard it mentioned for years that its really dangerous but i havent come accross examples [10:27] why would you run it on root? [10:27] spiko: Thanks, updating slackpkg [10:27] BP{k}: honesty? :P [10:27] gartt, sure, np :) did you configure it to use slackware-12 ? [10:28] (or the fact they're responsible for that? ;-) ) [10:28] gartt, in mirrors.conf or whatsitcalled [10:29] ah, "slackpkg was included in the main tree in Slackware 12.2 - previously it had been included in extras/ since Slackware 9.1." [10:29] alienBOB: ftr, I updated to kernel 2.6.33-rc2 and now, I can shut down and suspend works \o/ [10:29] Camarade_Tux, when should I expect Deluge 1.2.0-rc3 updated to Deluge 1.2.0-rc5 on Slackbuilds.org? A month? [10:29] (suspend tested in console, not X, which is already better than most other drivers) [10:29] alreadygone: errrrr, *no* idea, why would *I* know? [10:30] ok :) [10:30] alreadygone, why not change the rc3 variable to rc5 yourself? [10:30] thrice`++ [10:30] and compile it. can that work? [10:30] spiko: Strange, the new beta doesn't have me uncomment a mirror from a conf file [10:30] lol [10:30] no, just change it to rc5 and stare at it until a package pops up [10:31] lol [10:31] someone must have gotten a stocking ful of coal [10:31] oh come on be serious. Will it work? [10:31] yes [10:31] of course it'll work :> [10:31] its what most people do [10:31] gartt, neat-o [10:31] download the rc5 source, change the slackbuild to rc5, and run the slackbuild :) [10:32] ok thanks :) [10:32] download the new source, edit the .SlackBuild, change 'rc3' to 'rc5' and drink your champagne :-) [10:33] cool [10:33] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:33] No, I lied. It jsut didn't say in the installpkg description [10:34] actually what would be a nice feature would be a progress bar in the slackware installation process? [10:35] you can normaly see the progress just by watching what packages its on [10:36] package directory that is [10:37] nessundorma (n=mike@78-134-89-61.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [10:39] is [OPT] a directory? [10:40] no [10:40] its a package tagged as optional [10:41] it states that a package tagged as optional* [10:41] it states that a package is tagged as optional* [10:41] there! [10:41] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:42] \o/ it worked [10:42] so where do I view the directory? [10:43] ah it says installing package series e [10:43] which would be emacs i think [10:45] maybe a file or byte count would be usefull tho [10:45] or even package count [10:45] yes something like that [10:45] so that I might have an indication of when to check the machine again [10:46] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [10:46] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:46] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:47] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:49] pim_, could probably be done with some creative parsing of PACKAGES.TXT [10:51] NthDegree_ (n=nth@88-107-184-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [10:51] NthDegree_ (n=nth@88-107-184-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Client Quit [10:54] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:54] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:56] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [10:58] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-071-068-037-030.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving." [10:58] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-184-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:59] awa [10:59] ehm, sorry [11:02] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:02] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:04] I want to upgrade this laptop to 13.0, but I don't have a blank dvd - I have a partition I'm leaving intact, so I can just install fine off there, right? [11:04] nv4Phil (n=phil@c-69-137-66-177.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:04] God Bless all of you and Merry Christmas. [11:04] looks like the nmap thing doesnt helps in this case [11:04] raelaa: you can also do a net install [11:04] it only says that the only host running is the computer where Im now [11:04] Merry Christmas... God Bless you. [11:04] will take some time though [11:05] nv4Phil will you stop it [11:05] oops the second line was an /amsg [11:05] quicker to just download and do it from there, though, right? [11:05] I suspect that the remote machine has a firewall running [11:05] didn't mean to repeat [11:05] pim_: yeah... [11:05] yes raelaa [11:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] how should I boot to the installer, though? [11:06] stupid brother told me he had a 13.0 install dvd, then forgot it was 64 bit :/ [11:07] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [11:07] raelaa: there is a usb installer [11:07] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) joined ##slackware. [11:07] nv4Phil (n=phil@c-69-137-66-177.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Papa Alpha Romeo Tango"). [11:07] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:08] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.55.153) joined ##slackware. [11:08] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:08] raelaa, if you're running a recent slackware already can't you upgrade just the new packages? [11:09] spiko: this laptop is pretty messed up. plus, it was an 11.0 upgraded to 12.0 upgraded to 12.2.. was told I shouldn't be skipping version in upgrades [11:10] spiko: several apps are giving me issues, so I figured I'd try a wipe and install fresh.. though I'm fairly sure I did that with the 12.1 disc I had in it [11:10] there is a 12.2 disc I can install from, but that's the most recent I have burned [11:10] sure, if you can, just wipe it all :) [11:10] alreadygone (n=silas@119.154.4.52) left irc: "Leaving" [11:11] it's always fun to set things up anew [11:11] I guess I can install 12.2, see if that works, and if not upgrade to 13 [11:11] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:11] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-071-068-037-030.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:11] couldnt you use the 12.2 cd to jsut bootthe installer then select 13.0 packed from the directory ? [11:11] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-184-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [11:12] would that work? [11:12] i dont see whynot [11:12] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-93-112.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [11:13] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [11:14] im nto sure though [11:14] not* [11:14] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:15] can a user run init? [11:16] indubitableness (n=indubita@99.157.217.46) joined ##slackware. [11:16] sup [11:17] quiet for now eh? [11:18] not really [11:18] soccerfan (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:19] i see [11:19] what's goin' down? [11:20] merry christmas and whatnot [11:20] Io Saturnalia [11:21] I think you have come to the wrong channel for smalltalk maybe [11:21] that's okay [11:21] there's nothing wrong with small talk is there? [11:21] not as far as I'm concerned [11:21] I won't get banned or anything will I? [11:22] okay cool [11:23] hmmm. So my car has its own holiday? That involves drunken orgies? [11:23] (well, it's a Saturn anyway) [11:23] what? [11:23] indeed [11:23] haha [11:23] that's funny [11:23] orgies AND gift giving [11:23] maybe your car has a gift for you [11:24] dead battery or something [11:24] total car gift [11:24] the last "gift" my car gave me was a leaky transmission :( [11:24] a surprise broken part [11:24] see [11:24] mine gave me a dead engine [11:24] had to get the whole thing replaced [11:24] impy (n=impy@196.51-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: [11:24] I installed slackware on the old one [11:25] slackcar? [11:25] well slack dead engine [11:25] I keep it next to my dead badger server [11:25] wtf, is someone really out in the living room playing the chipmunks xmas album at full volume? [11:25] hah [11:25] hahaha [11:26] nessundorma (n=mike@78-134-89-61.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:26] The-Crou1ier (n=agapi@62.1.149.46.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:26] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:27] Nick change: nessundorma_ -> nessundorma [11:31] Karu (n=alch@78-28-89-122.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left ##slackware. [11:32] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:32] gettin' kind of sleepy [11:32] how's y'all's Christmas going? [11:33] good ty [11:33] those of you who celebrate it [11:33] afk for meal. [11:33] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:35] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [11:35] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Client Quit [11:36] I just realized [11:36] is this the official Slackware irc channel? [11:36] it is isn't it? [11:36] ## [11:37] cool [11:37] Slackware is so awesome [11:37] But it's as official as it gets. [11:37] yeah [11:37] I see what ya mean [11:37] Not all distro makers can afford to run an IRC channel on the side. [11:37] And there's plenty of people who are actually involved in here. [11:38] what's the ##? [11:38] pim_: means it's not "official". [11:38] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:38] It's a freenode policy. [11:38] every once in a while, the man himself shows up [11:38] I just figured out how to use irc today [11:38] I know [11:38] total newb right? [11:39] heh [11:39] I'm so used to yahoo chat [11:39] it's almost weird [11:39] I feel like I've graduated to big boy chat [11:39] Urchlay I suppose you mean Volkerding? [11:40] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:40] yah [11:40] is he nice? [11:40] he's very cool [11:41] I imagine him being kind of prim somehow [11:41] nah [11:41] he's a slacker like the rest of us [11:41] good man [11:41] I love package tools [11:42] the whole packaging format [11:42] it's like everyone abandoned the idea of using basic linux tools to get stuff done [11:42] not slackware [11:43] not to knock on other package formats [11:43] yah. You want to see which package a file is in? use grep [11:43] so true, and dissapointing on the other hand at the same time [11:43] Hehe really? [11:43] grep.. :p [11:44] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [11:45] dang [11:45] greetings and salutations [11:45] happy xmass and all the nice stuff [11:45] Salve [11:45] i come in peace [11:45] Merry Christmas [11:45] Io Saturnalia [11:45] Happy Hannakuh [11:45] ... [11:46] click click kwanza [11:46] I don't know any afrikaans [11:46] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [11:46] I assume it's all clicks [11:47] happy festivus ;) [11:48] yes! [11:48] afrikaans isn't the click language, it's the mutated version of Dutch spoken by whites in places like South Africa [11:48] Gotta install the dang ol' dotnet framework into this dang ol' wine prefix so I can dang ol' watch this game install fail to work for whatever reason it decides [11:48] I did not know that Urchlay [11:48] Urchlay are you interested in languages? [11:48] rather interesting [11:49] pim_: interested in, yes... good at them, no :( [11:50] which one do you speak? [11:50] or ones rather [11:50] aaaaand the installer appears to have crashed [11:50] the one I'm typing in... and a tiny bit of Spanish (not enough to really be useful) [11:50] big ol' gigantic surprise there [11:50] heh [11:50] enough to order some tacos? [11:50] and Perl, C, Java, C++, bash... [11:51] nice [11:51] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [11:51] Urchlay I suppose you can do quite some maths too, that's a language as well [11:51] Y'all heard of Linux Game Publishing? [11:51] LGP [11:51] Action: The-Croupier speaks: greek,english,albanian,italian,some french,some spanish, learning japanesse, [11:52] then all the computer ones Urchlay said apart from perl ;) [11:52] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [11:53] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:53] pim_: yeah, though I'm better at stuff like boolean logic or geometric proofs than calculus [11:53] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:54] boolean logic is the one that is easy on me [11:54] i have a hard time with simple arithmetic [11:54] so y'all never heard of Linux Game Publishing? [11:55] the company [11:55] hrrr, a company called that? [11:55] yeah [11:55] they're awesome [11:55] I remember Loki used to publish Linux games [11:55] they port games to linux [11:55] really distro friendly [11:55] they use some loki code [11:55] like they're updater was originally a loki thing [11:55] Nick change: yosi -> nyRednek [11:56] impy (n=impy@196.51-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [11:56] They published a bunch of games so far but the only one I have is X2 [11:56] and they only have four games I want [11:56] including the one I have [11:56] but I like to spread the word about them because I want them to grow [11:56] and publish more games I actually like [11:56] check 'em out [11:56] http://linuxgamepublishing.com [11:57] if you're interested [11:58] their site's kind of weird [11:59] I need 7 million credits to buy the next ship I want in this game [11:59] and I've only got 3 million so far [11:59] I guess everything takes forever in space [11:59] even fake space [12:00] apparently there's a channel for it here [12:00] lgp [12:01] impulse (n=impy@196.51-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. 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[12:22] yes [12:22] glxinfo works, but it no longer shows direct rendering: yes [12:22] Hm it does for me. [12:23] ugh, really? [12:23] raelaa: go get the latest mesa package from patches/ [12:23] hmmm, does it show "direct rendering: no"? :P [12:23] it doesn't show any direct rendering: [12:23] raelaa: also, which hardware? [12:23] raelaa: xD [12:23] so I'm trying to figure out if I actually have it now [12:23] 3rd line is direct rendering for me. [12:23] radeonhd 3100 [12:23] raelaa: you can use slackpkg to update mesa, or manually download from the patches/ dir on the ftp site and use upgradepkg [12:24] well, a video is playing maximized now, which is more than what happened before [12:24] jomo (n=mich@p3EE206A7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving." [12:24] if you run proprietary drivers, you probably need to remove them & reinstall after updating mesa (or something) [12:25] yeah still show direct renering : yess [12:25] did you try glxinfo |grep direct [12:26] grep'd for rendering.. brother is messing with it now, so I'll check in a minute [12:27] Maybe redundant, but did you run it without grepping it? Maybe it's just displaying some error or something. [12:27] I think it was just grepped, so I'll check when I get the laptop again :P thanks [12:27] Can't you ssh into it while your brother is doing stuff? :D [12:28] I don't have the ip :P I guess I could get him to give it to me, but I think he's almost done [12:28] dissociative (n=alejandr@190.102.210.84) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:28] sysbr (n=sysbr@201-93-222-64.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:29] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [12:31] glxinfo definitely does not give me rendering info [12:31] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:32] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:32] dissociative (n=alejandr@186.97.36.199) joined ##slackware. [12:32] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:35] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-36.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:35] raelaa: I just told you what to do, this is a known problem with the mesa package that's on the 13.0 install DVD [12:36] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:37] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:37] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [12:37] but does direct rendering work anyway and it just doesn't display? [12:38] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@168-103-58-52.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] probably [12:38] I mean, you can't tell. The problem is that glxinfo doesn't display that information [12:38] or just run glxgears and see the speed [12:40] glxgears seems okay [12:41] take with grain of salt: on low-performance cards, glxgears might actually run faster using software rendering than it would with hardware acceleration [12:41] This makes sense, I am running -current. [12:41] uhhh.. so.. when I'm trying to ./binary, it keeps saying -bash: /path/to/binary: No such file or directory [12:41] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [12:42] It does that for me if I run a 32bit binary on a 64bit non-multilib system. [12:42] what is the binary? is it really a binary, or a script? (and if it's a script, what does the #! line say? does the interpreter actually exist?) [12:42] raelaa: Try hash -r [12:42] does that mean I need 64bit sources? [12:42] No [12:42] There's no such thing as "64 bit sources", I guess. [12:43] It would help if you told us what it is you're running. [12:43] oh, but this tarball was actually just a binary :/ ugh, pain in the ass.. [12:43] run "file" on the binary [12:43] tried to install skype and stepmania.. forgot about the 64bit thing [12:50] if you really want to run those apps, there's alien's multilib package builder script: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [12:51] Requires some work, but it works well. [12:52] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.3) joined ##slackware. [12:52] well my glxinfo still diplays direct rendering maybe cuz i upgrade mesa with slackpkg [12:52] i never used glxinfo with the defaul 13 package [12:56] Same here. [12:56] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-204-65.telecable.es) left irc: "Leaving." 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[13:03] laptop detection should be the same wherever you go; it's probably neither, like the shape of your house, construction materials in the walls et al [13:03] You should probably blame concrete and metal in the structure of your house, or your neighbors' access points. [13:03] Sadnem (n=Sadnem@89.141.98.120.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [13:03] The latter is very amusingly dealt with :D [13:04] there are barely any aps in the neighborhood [13:04] Switching channels might help, as some structural barricades might have less effect on a different frequency, though the effect is small. [13:04] Hello, happy [13:04] Christmas (Noel) [13:04] If you have the possibility to move your AP around, it might help. [13:04] Agiofws (n=nnAgiofw@athedsl-427513.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [13:04] merry christmas to you too fredoslack [13:05] i think the structure of the house doesnt help [13:05] Thanks youuu [13:05] probably going to ditch 64bit and get the 32bit [13:05] Wireless is weird, I've seen it work absolutely fine in the weirdest structures, and seen it flake out constantly in places with near line of sight. [13:05] Hi guys, im triying to install virtualbox (not ose) onto slackware 13.0 64-bits, I've downloaded the installation script from its page but it says that i have to install build and header files for my kernel, How i do that? [13:05] nachox: it could be either antenna from either hardware. there is a good site for antenna's you could use on your router though. one second. [13:06] If you run openwrt on your router you can increase the power output but you might get cancer in the head. [13:06] Agiofws (n=nnnAgiof@athedsl-427513.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[13:09] nachox: ah.. hrm. they might ship over seas.. http://www.l-com.com/home.aspx [13:14] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Connection timed out [13:15] impulse (n=impy@196.51-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:17] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.55.153) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:22] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-104-121.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [13:25] ohdannyboy (n=dan@pool-96-254-20-102.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:28] wow this is weird. when i set up my xorg to use fglrx with device PCI:0@3:0:1, it tells me no device section for PCI:0@3:0:0 and when i change it to the latter in xorg.conf, it tells me no matching device section for the first one. is this some kind of auto-detection crap gone awry? [13:28] could this be a crossfire issue, even though im not using crossfire, because my card has it? [13:29] do i need two identical device/screen/whatever sections for both addresses? someone help me out here. [13:30] Also, ATI Tech Support said I should join the circus. [13:30] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-189-49.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:31] note: I am not doing anything weird, like dual monitors, it's just a PCI card with one monitor (radeon hd sapphire 5770) [13:36] Axius (n=ade@92.82.72.205) joined ##slackware. [13:37] Axius (n=ade@92.82.72.205) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:37] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-36.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [13:38] raela (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:39] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-109.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:41] elemenohpee (n=Boris@cpe-98-150-172-202.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:42] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. 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[13:53] unless it's me. if it's me I'll unconditionally forgive myself. :D [13:53] :D [13:53] dartmouth: fglrx doesn't work at 16 bpp. [13:54] adamk_: good point [13:54] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:54] adamk_: at 24 it causes a hard lock [13:54] dartmouth: I see in your xorg.conf file that your machine locks at 24 bpp. *That's* the problem you have to figure ou. [13:54] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:54] adamk_: Xorg.0.log isn't written to when it hard locks in this instance [13:56] what was that little device [13:56] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:56] the theory with that is that if i set it to a depth it doesn't support during troubleshooting, since it is hardlocking at 24, that i may be able to see the problem at 16 and fix it. otherwise im without resources to troubleshoot it [13:56] the little router deice [13:56] jeev jeev [13:56] jeev: go home [13:57] bite me [13:57] Action: deco bites jeev [13:57] raela (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:58] raela (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] dartmouth: replace "Mystery Device" with "Default Device" in your xorg.conf [13:58] Section "Screen" [13:58] lol [13:58] damnit what was it called [13:58] Camarade_Tux: same issue [13:59] still on 2.6.29.6? [13:59] Camarade_Tux: i've been alternating and watching the changes. [13:59] Razec (i=1000@187-27-221-229.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:59] dartmouth: Xorg just won't start at 16 bpp with fglrx. So there's no point troubleshooting the 16bpp issue. [13:59] Camarade_Tux: no i upgraded to 2.6.30.5-smp and it's the same behaviour [13:59] dartmouth: How about a serial console or netconsole? [14:00] adamk_: i've got no way to test that out, but it's looking very much like 'no' [14:01] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:04] it's just weird, if i tell it to look at 3:0:0 (what it detects as default) it tells me no matching screens for 3:0:1 (which should not exist), and if I tell it to look at 3:0:1, it will tell me no matching device section for the other. [14:05] which sounds to a newbie like me like some kind of hal or other autodetection thing going nuts. [14:06] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-188-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [14:07] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:07] Action: dartmouth lets that last statement really sink in how little he knows about hal, xorg, and any kind of hardware autodetection [14:08] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:09] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-47.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [14:10] the....[atiddxpreinit] thing reminds me of an OSx86 gfx driver issue i resolved once by playing in the 'hidden' config files of the driver, i wonder if that fglrx dir in my modules dir that was created when i installed would shed some light... [14:10] tux (n=tux@AMontsouris-158-1-38-185.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:10] Nick change: tux -> Camarade_Tux [14:12] dartmouth: 3:0:0 is almost certainly correct. The card shows two devices because it's dualhead and that was the only way for windows 2000 to handle dualhead, so nearly all dualhead cards show that they occupy two locations on the PCI bus. [14:12] Camarade1Tux (n=adrien@procyon.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:12] oh awesome, thank you for clarifying that because i've been running weird theories about why it's doing that. so is it just confused about which one to output to? [14:13] Camarade_Tux (n=tux@AMontsouris-158-1-38-185.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware. [14:13] gerrh (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [14:13] Nick change: Camarade1Tux -> Camarade_Tux [14:13] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:14] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-188-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [14:15] maybe i can 'force' it to use 3:0:0? [14:16] and make it pretend not to see 3:0:1? [14:16] You shouldn't even need to specify the PCI ID. [14:16] i only had that in there because aticonfig included it [14:17] let me see what happens when i comment it out [14:17] Then leave it with whatever aticonfig specified (which, I'm sure, was 3:0:0). [14:17] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: "Leaving." [14:17] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-191-28-135.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:17] edman007_ (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [14:17] The fact that it fails to match a screen for 3:0:1 is not the problem. That's just an informational warning. [14:18] It's failing to start, in the case of the log file above, because you are running at 16 bpp. [14:18] :-) [14:18] dartmouth: oh, btw, and if you try to get one of the card out of the computer? [14:18] there's only one card Camarade_Tux :P [14:18] adamk_: i'll test it out at 24 again but im certain it'll be a hard lock [14:18] I was under the impression you had two :P [14:19] mohaa (n=nome@188.115.77.133) joined ##slackware. [14:19] well, that's better actuall, I would have killed you and stolen your cards otherwise [14:19] dartmouth: It may, indeed, hardlock. But, again, that's the problem you need to fix. [14:19] Camarade_Tux: did you get me presents? [14:19] adamk_: with no error, I have no idea how to do that [14:19] edman007_: yup, got you beer [14:20] sweet [14:20] edman007_: but not the shipping :-) [14:20] :( [14:20] where are you? [14:20] france? [14:20] so I'll just drink the beer ;p [14:20] edman007_: yup ;-) [14:20] :( [14:20] dartmouth: I'm not sure I do either, unfortunately. Particularly not without a console of some sort. [14:20] Action: dartmouth gets ready to type `kdm` [14:20] Camarade_Tux: so...when are you coming to the US? [14:20] dartmouth: tried ati support? what did you tell them? [14:21] edman007_: with the beer? never :P [14:21] noooooo [14:21] Camarade_Tux: I haven't. I didn't know they had phone support, or did support for linux. [14:21] Action: dartmouth hits enter [14:21] maybe not phone support but mail support, they have drivers for linux, they have support for it ;p [14:22] dartmouth: There's #ati, but that channel is often dead. [14:22] I really meant ati.com [14:22] Unfortunatley, I have no experience with HD5*** cards. [14:22] dartmouth: what is your problem with ati stuff? [14:23] dartmouth (n=dartmout@pool-72-65-102-94.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:23] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [14:23] His machine locks up upon starting X. [14:23] what card? hd5xxx? [14:23] dartmouth (n=dartmout@pool-72-65-102-94.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [14:23] yay! hard lock. [14:24] edman007_: Yep. [14:24] Sadnem (n=Sadnem@89.141.98.120.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:24] and an empty Xorg.0.log to boot. :P [14:24] raelaa (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:24] Thats's because your machine locks up before it has a chance to write the log file to the disk. [14:25] dartmouth: try the radeon and radeonhd drivers, 3d is only basic (if you use the latest git) [14:25] dis there a reliable way to check if my internet connection has incoming ports blocked [14:25] dartmouth: hmmmm, I can solve your hard lock: send me your card, it won't hard lock your computer anymore :-) [14:25] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-191-28-135.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:25] Camarade_Tux: hah. [14:25] edman007_: 3D is non-existant for his card. [14:25] it *is* a nice card. or is supposed to be. I wouldn't know :P [14:25] nix_chix0r what did you get me for xmas? [14:25] edman007_: via open source drivers, anyway. [14:26] i'll try the radeonhd and see what happens [14:26] adamk_: works pretty good on the 3xxx and 4xxx, i thought the 5xxx is similar and should work a bit [14:26] but like i said, you need to use the latest git [14:26] edman007_, dartmouth: There is no 2D or 3D via the open source drivers for HD5*** cards. [14:26] Period. [14:27] The developers have basic 2D modesetting going, but without even digital outputs working, last I heard. [14:27] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:28] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [14:28] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:28] edman007_: I got an open-source driver for my graphic card ;-) [14:29] yeah radeonhd spits out a list of supported cards, and the sapphire 5770 was not in that list; it also failed, saying no devices detected; testing `radeon` [14:29] Camarade_Tux: i use radeonhd for my 3870, almost everything works, just slow [14:29] dartmouth: really, it's not gonna work :-) [14:29] edman007_: suspend works in console with nouveau :-) [14:29] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: [14:29] slow but good [14:29] well i didn't get a hard lock at 24bpp! :D [14:29] \o/ [14:29] Action: edman007_ has not tried suspend [14:29] and X started or...? [14:29] no [14:29] no it still said the same thing [14:30] echo 3 > /proc/acpi sleep, as root (not sudo) [14:30] but it didn't hard lock :) [14:30] he [14:30] :P [14:30] You are stuck with fglrx, which means you are pretty much stuck. [14:30] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:30] You could try asking on the ATI phoronix forum: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19 [14:30] adamk_: it's been suggested to me to downgrade from ati's 9-12 driver to see if that works; i was not aware that prior drivers supported the card. [14:31] dartmouth: I'm not sure when HD5xxx support was added. [14:31] Either 9.11 or 9.12, though. [14:31] I know that the "nopat" kernel option has helped with some problems in the past. [14:32] nopat? where? [14:32] and what is that? [14:32] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [14:32] dartmouth: I think 9.11 supports your card [14:33] actually ati/amd's website didn't list 9.12 for your card [14:33] did for me [14:33] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@20151204120.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:34] Camarade_Tux: are you sure? [14:34] that's the only link availale when you do the 'find the right driver' menu search [14:34] when I checked for 57xx on yesterday, it didn't [14:34] well, try 9.11, it won't cost much [14:35] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:36] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:37] im downloading [14:37] Action: dartmouth crosses fingers [14:37] sluttyduck (n=slut@74.83.190.80) joined ##slackware. [14:39] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [14:40] tappitahti (n=tappitah@88-196-188-224-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [14:40] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [14:43] Action: dartmouth has inserted 9.11 into the module hole. [14:43] Action: dartmouth plays drum roll [14:44] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-184.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:44] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-25-26.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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I used to have the advanced touchpad stuff disabled (scrolling with the right side) and I could click - did I lose the clicking due to the advanced options? [15:02] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-18-56.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:02] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [15:03] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [15:05] ok, you updated to 64-bit, or you updated to slackware 13 ? [15:05] Razec (i=1000@187-27-221-229.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [15:06] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:06] spiko (i=1000@89-212-173-113.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:06] also, heard about hal? fdi? [15:12] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-36.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [15:12] yosi (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:17] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-184.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:21] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-36.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:21] redtricycle (n=redtricy@12.130.118.1) joined ##slackware. [15:22] downwater (i=1000@ram94-8-88-165-232-7.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:22] hi [15:22] hi [15:24] i'm trying to install linuxwacom for my wacom bamboo [15:24] dartmouth (n=dartmout@pool-72-65-102-94.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:25] when i load the kernel module (in some "2.6.19" directory however my kernel is 2.6.21) [15:25] does the url in a web browser gets changed to the ip address when the ServerName section of apache isnt configured? [15:26] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:26] in httpd.conf [15:26] the module loads well, but in /proc/bus/usb/devices, it does'nt seem to manage the wacom [15:26] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-36.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:26] in /proc/../devices : If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02 Driver=(none) [15:27] raelakoira (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:28] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-36.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:28] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:28] Okay, the novelty of in-plane WiFi has worn off [15:28] now I'm bored again [15:29] alkos333 (n=alkos333@adsl-69-209-210-66.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-104-121.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [15:34] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [15:36] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [15:37] my c/cxxflags are "-march=pentium4 -mtune=pentium4 -O4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer", is this bad for module compilation ? [15:37] -O4 ? [15:37] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-184.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [15:38] (i emptied these variables, but wacom driver compilation still doesn't produce a module which manage the Wacom) [15:38] thrice`: yes [15:38] why? [15:38] raela (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:38] don't remember :) [15:38] it's a optimization flag [15:39] I know what it is, just curious why on earth you would use it :> [15:39] (eg, I don't think you know what it is) [15:39] the highest optimisation level isn't it ? [15:40] no [15:40] http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Optimize-Options.html [15:40] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck_@bl6-222-17.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:41] i guess i should remove it :) [15:42] err [15:42] no O4 ? [15:42] bah, apparently I should never touch linux again. tried to install 64-bit, chose to slow format with checking, had the old lilo.conf and everything was borked and needed a reinstall.. tried on another laptop to install 32bit, booted drives as sda then read them as hda, so I swapped it in fstab and now it can't mount sda2 because it's not rw capable :/ [15:43] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:43] hello happy slackers [15:43] fine :) O4 = 03 [15:43] O3 [15:44] O3 causes problems too, don't use it regularly [15:45] i should remove -O parameter [15:47] brb [15:47] downwater (i=1000@ram94-8-88-165-232-7.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [15:48] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [15:48] impulse (n=impy@196.51-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [15:49] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [15:50] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-241.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:51] hello All. I trying to set up mutt, and mail already sending and receiving succesfull :) but how can i set vim as editor for messages instead of default "elvis"? [15:51] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [15:51] plutonium (n=plutoniu@80.85.119.109) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:53] i have "set editor=$EDITOR" in the .muttrc [15:53] must be some config file like muttrc [15:53] EDITOR is an env variable which points to vim [15:54] you can set it directly to vim of course [15:54] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0268C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:54] dfrank: have a config .muttrc but complex [15:54] yes, if you set it to vi it'll point to the king since vi is a symlink to elvis (on slackware) [15:54] unless you nuke it, as i do... [15:56] set editor="vim +":set textwidth=77' +":set wrap' +\BACKTICK awk '/^$/ {print i+2' exit} {i++)' %s\ BACKTICK %s" [15:56] or something like it [15:57] second line: set visual=vim [15:57] how does one turns of the video from the terminal? [15:57] off [15:58] dfrank: had some problems with getting the backtick in the terminal window so typed BACKTICK [15:58] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-66-189.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [15:59] dfrank: print i+2' -> print i+2; [16:00] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:00] MaderIII: oh, so many opts!.. :) [16:01] anyone tried the latest flash beta? [16:01] dfrank: and complete with typo's :-( [16:01] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-36.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:02] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:02] impy (n=impy@196.51-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:02] Nick change: OpenSys -> OpenSysHTC [16:03] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-36.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:03] Nick change: OpenSysHTC -> OpenSys [16:03] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:04] nessundorma (n=mike@78-134-93-112.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:04] Camarade_Tux, nope [16:05] Camarade_Tux, why? [16:05] MarderIII: and one more question: where should i set up environment variables? "export EDITOR=vim"? In /etc/rc.local? [16:06] dfrank: in .muttrc in your home dir [16:06] dfrank: can also be done globally, but i forget which file [16:07] LnxSlck: it's beta, I wanted to use it on 64bit and this would have meant using the beta of an alpha of flash on linux, it should crash almost every minute :P [16:07] dfrank: set editor="vim +':set textwidth=77' +':set wrap' +\`awk '/^$/ {print i+2; exit} {i++}' %s\` %s" [16:07] ah thats beter [16:07] better [16:07] but there's no support for 64bit there [16:08] It's Adobe, the stable versions aren't necessarily stable. [16:08] dfrank: ~/.bash_profile or/and ~/.bashrc [16:08] MarderIII: thank y [16:08] you [16:08] Camarade_Tux, right. no good idea to use beta's [16:09] Camarade_Tux, even worse when it's from flash [16:09] LnxSlck: I'm on 64bit, I'm using an alpha ;-) [16:09] Camarade_Tux, :) [16:09] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-47.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:09] Camarade_Tux: why? you can use stable ) [16:10] vehn_z1 (n=vehn_z@62.133.183.135) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:10] but it's been working pretty well, some crashes but it's ok (probably because it's almost always disabled) [16:10] vehn_z: I can't on 64bit [16:10] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:10] there's no stable [16:10] Camarade_Tux: flash-plugin? [16:10] yup [16:10] Camarade_Tux, i think 64 it's not ok for everyday use [16:10] Camarade_Tux: i use [16:11] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.55.153) joined ##slackware. [16:11] swedala (n=swedala@1-1-2-30a.gsn.gbg.bostream.se) left ##slackware. [16:11] It's stable but it leaks like the Titanic. [16:11] smrt help [16:11] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [16:11] crap, wrong channel :) [16:11] lol [16:11] fail [16:12] Camarade_Tux: ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware64-current/extra/flashplayer-plugin/ You need only change version to latest 10.0.42.34 and run it [16:13] google chrome is sleek but i keep finding myself going: "where my damn menu bar" [16:13] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-36.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [16:13] mancha, i'm also using chrome. it's nice [16:13] mancha: All your menu's are belong to me. [16:14] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0268C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:14] FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK [16:14] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0268C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-36.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:14] ) [16:14] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.118) joined ##slackware. [16:14] what? ) [16:14] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: "leaving" [16:15] windows 7 has been adding port-forwarding entries to my home router for Teredo [16:15] it has been using a *random* port for each computer on each IP [16:15] IP which is attributed dynamically [16:15] somebody set up us the web [16:15] mmm... teredo == ip6 ? [16:15] imagine 4 new port-forwarding rules per day! [16:15] it is you! [16:16] yeah, to connect to ipv6 networks over ipv4 ones [16:16] s/over/through/ [16:16] turn of pnp on the router [16:16] yosi (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [16:16] mancha: yeah, I had kept it because I'm usually not here but it's going away *right* *now* [16:16] and it's closer to 5 new ports per day [16:16] SYN4PS3 (n=chatzill@188.158.97.139) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Iceweasel 3.0.6/2009102814]" [16:17] wmpnetwk.exe [16:17] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:17] a rule for that [16:17] fuck [16:17] sorry for flooding the channel but this is complete shit [16:17] o_o [16:17] i think you need remove windows 7 =) [16:17] wmp shares over the internet, fuck off [16:18] vehn_z: I have win7 rc1 on this computer but I haven't booted it in weeks, brothers [16:19] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [16:19] john__ (n=john@65.125.138.2) joined ##slackware. [16:19] I'm afraid if I remove that useless windows my warranty will get revocated [16:19] yeah, removed something like 20 port-forwarding entries [16:20] john__ (n=john@65.125.138.2) left irc: Client Quit [16:21] dissociative: you can make hdd's image, gzip it and upload anywhere (e.g. gmail.com), no? ) [16:22] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.145.180) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:22] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-36.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:23] TheGroove: yeah, for long runs, it ends up pretty slow [16:23] redtricycle (n=redtricy@12.130.118.1) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:23] (which is usually because it has to spend hours trying to allocate memory) [16:24] How would I configure network on slackware running in a virtual machine on a laptop which connects to a wireless network/> [16:24] ? [16:25] edman007_ (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:25] this is dependent on how the VM does guest networking [16:25] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:25] edman007_ (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [16:25] read [16:25] read what? [16:25] the docs [16:25] pim_: hm, if it allows loopback / communication with the other (real) connection, set your wireless interface on the laptop to forward, I guess. [16:26] pim_: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:vde perhaps, this article help you [16:26] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.118) left irc: Operation timed out [16:26] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [16:26] normally you dont have to setup anything in the vm, it works out of the box (via vm-eth0) [16:27] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.81.83) joined ##slackware. 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[16:33] :p [16:33] deco, oué c'est moi lool [16:33] fredoslack: \o/ lol :P [16:33] deco, j'ai trahi lool je susi sous Ubuntu là lool [16:33] i have a pic for fredoslack [16:33] http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/mrawesomeface.png [16:33] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.145.180) joined ##slackware. [16:33] fredoslack: :p [16:33] lool antiwire [16:34] atta [16:34] TheGroove: leaks like the titanic? Tried the hoard memory allocator? [16:34] it is [16:34] ifconfig: command not found how can that be? [16:34] I dont have any installation media [16:34] (tried firefox?) [16:34] http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/headsup.jpg [16:35] after getting this I dont get how people still use windoowws [16:35] deco, >> http://www.premiumorange.com/fredoslack/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=51 [16:35] http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1801 <- linked to vehn_z's pic [16:35] c'est à limoges, France [16:35] il y a 15 jours [16:35] pim_, /sbin/ifconfig [16:35] thres were are 15 years * [16:35] lol [16:35] snow \o/ [16:35] s/years/days/ ! [16:35] fredoslack: hehe snow :P [16:36] thrise` thanks, isn't it a bit weird though? [16:36] deco, oui de la beautiful neige [16:36] yeah [16:36] very glissante hi hi [16:36] pim_, no, /sbin isn't in the default $PATH for user [16:36] (deco doesn't know snow) [16:36] nope [16:36] fredoslack: i have never seen the snow :p [16:36] edman007__ (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) joined ##slackware. [16:37] deco, vraiment, really ??? [16:37] fredoslack: yup :/ [16:37] thrice` I don't underdstand [16:38] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:38] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [16:39] substancev (n=substanc@1-18-132-169.idt.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] pim_: /sbin and /usr/sbin contain binaries which needs superuser permissions to run [16:39] so no need to include them in a path for regular users [16:39] a path? [16:39] is there a log file that is created during the slackware installation ... i had 3 packages that didn't install.. and i wanted to make sure that i attempted to reinstall after the installation is complete. [16:39] lol [16:39] ) [16:39] installation is stilli n progress... [16:40] how do you know they didn't install? [16:40] substancev: install you by means of tag-files? [16:40] pim_: sorry, in $PATH which is the list of directories to look for binaries [16:41] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [16:41] im doing a slackintosh on a ibook g3.. .there where 3 failed packages... i just want to know after the installation is there a way i can determine the files that were missed [16:41] I had that a few days ago, the PACKAGES.TXT on my mirror wasn't in sync with.. reality. [16:42] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [16:42] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0268C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:42] edman007_ (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:42] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [16:42] hello All, tell me please, how can i enable threads in mutt? [16:42] Camarade_Tux so $PATH keeps a list of directories in which slackware will search, when I type e.g. ping [16:42] ? [16:42] dfrank: ask in #mutt [16:42] pim_: yes [16:43] i must reboot grr [16:43] substancev: but how do you know they failed? [16:43] @+ [16:43] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-36.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Quitte"). [16:43] sahk0: nobody answers :( [16:43] @+ to you too, fredoslack! [16:44] Camarade_Tux: umm.. the screeen displayed that i can continue with the installation process but the aforementioned packaged was unable to install... everything is installing fine [16:44] dfrank: set sort = threads [16:44] one of the packages was TeXeT [16:44] or something like that [16:44] dfrank: wait or try to find out yourself [16:44] Camarade_Tux could I insert a program in $PATH so that I might execute it by just typing it's name? [16:44] so is there a log i can refer to...? [16:45] i think the packages were from T section [16:45] substancev: you know which packages failed? there is a chance they're not installed at all so you'll just have to install them, without bothering about specific files [16:46] substancev: and that was tetex which is used for latex [16:46] substancev: all where from t/? [16:47] Camarade_Tux: this is exactly what im in inquiring.. i want to know if there is a log that is generated during installation that tells me which packagaes failed to install... weither due to bad media currupt whatever.. [16:47] vehn_z: thank you! it works!! :) [16:47] pim_: yes, it'll take you root perms to add a file in one of path included in PATH by default, note that the current directory is included in the default PATH for a non-superuser [16:47] There is none, as far as I know. There _might_ be one in the RAMdisk during install, but as soon as you reboot after the install it's gone. [16:48] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) left irc: "leaving" [16:48] substancev: ok, was under the impression you were looking for files inside the packages, not complete packages [16:48] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [16:48] well, I don't know but I think you can try to test the packages for corruption and see which ones are bad [16:49] Camarade_Tux: :) ... nope just whole packages... so is there a log? [16:49] tar tf /path/to/blablabla/t/*.txz <- if you get 3 fails, you've got your failed packages [16:49] Camarade_Tux thanks I find that very helpful and I now see how it works [16:49] :-) [16:50] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-36.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:50] demain [16:50] bn à demain [16:50] night fredoslack [16:50] Camarade_Tux: thanks... i guess ill try later... wow... slackware is booting on my rescued ibook [16:50] a plus tard [16:50] uva (i=bno@220-136-228-170.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] gn à demain [16:50] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-86-36.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [16:51] what is the general way of installing something in slackware? do I download it from a website and use pkgtool? [16:51] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-35-174.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:51] pim_: installpkg [16:52] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:53] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:53] I'd like to download a windowmanager, I've now only got the command line interface [16:53] with installpkg not being in the PATH of a regular user :D [16:53] yes it is in /sbin [16:53] pim_: you already have a window manager I think, you installed kde? [16:53] pim_: it's probably a good idea to read the slackbook at this point (url in topic) [16:53] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-95-35.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [16:53] rg3 I am reading it right now [16:54] Camarade_Tux I don't think so, whereis returns nothing [16:55] substancev (n=substanc@1-18-132-169.idt.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:55] pim_: you should know what you have installed or not, but there's always the list in /var/log/packages [16:55] pim_: during install, you where to select series, did you unselect "kde", what about "x" and "xap"? [16:55] rg3++ [16:55] guys continue to do a core slackware installl [16:55] http://pastebin.com/m6ce65d68 [16:55] that is what i have so far [17:00] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-184.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:00] Camarade_Tux I think I just installed everything from the first cd [17:01] edman007__ (n=edman007@pdpc/supporter/active/edman007) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:03] first? afaik, you'll need more than just a window manager, I think you're missing X [17:03] and why did you went for only the first? [17:03] I just downloaded the iso and installed slackware [17:03] I thought I could install the things I needed later, later [17:04] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-95-254.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [17:04] hi there! [17:05] tappitahti (n=tappitah@88-196-188-224-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) left irc: Client Quit [17:05] Agiofws (n=nnnAgiof@athedsl-427513.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:08] ydooW (n=ydooW@87.241.167.195) joined ##slackware. [17:09] TClayton (n=tony@unaffiliated/tclayton) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:09] ness1d0rma (n=mike@78.134.108.4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:09] pim_, you can :> [17:10] I setup a homes share with samba and I trying to access it from windows but It refuses to authenticate to access the share [17:10] vehn_z (n=vehn_z@62.133.183.135) left irc: "Leaving." [17:10] I feel like disapointed lol [17:10] TClayton (n=tony@nc-76-3-97-23.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [17:11] thrice` I have managed to find and mount my cd-drive, I'd now like to install all packages from the cd [17:12] it shows me the shares correctly if I try with smbclient locally [17:12] doing /sbin/pkgtool will start the program [17:12] then I give the directory [17:12] and pkgtool will quit [17:13] pim_: did you read the slackbook? [17:13] lol [17:14] pim_, try just "installpkg yourpackage.txz" [17:14] sahk0 yes, it isn't very informative about pkgtool though [17:15] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [17:15] hmm well it is 23:15 now, I'll be off [17:15] thanks for your help everyone [17:16] pim_ (n=pim_@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) left irc: [17:19] ness1d0rma (n=mike@78.134.97.30) joined ##slackware. [17:20] tsomi (n=tsomi@lns-bzn-56-82-255-255-219.adsl.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] vehn_z (n=vehn_z@62.133.183.135) joined ##slackware. [17:22] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-6.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[17:52] oh you bet [17:52] good [17:52] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.3) left irc: [17:52] thats the pernt [17:52] i mean my hand is starting to hurt [17:52] but it's all good i guess [17:53] heh dont be gross [17:53] i'm drinking a spare beer from the dinner. mexican variety; nice. [17:53] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-104-121.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [17:53] small bubbles [17:53] cool [17:54] "Tecate" [17:54] brand name [17:56] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-104-121.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [17:57] dangerseeker_ (n=dangerse@p57A8FA8D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.145.180) joined ##slackware. [18:00] plutonium (n=plutoniu@80.85.119.109) joined ##slackware. [18:00] vehn_z (n=vehn_z@62.133.183.135) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:00] yosi (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[18:13] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ <-- note the "64-bit download" [18:15] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:15] caoliver, I got a new PC for christmas [18:15] so me :D [18:16] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [18:16] NthDegree: describe! [18:17] it's a Core i5 with 4GB DDR3 RAM [18:17] and an NVIDIA GTX 220 [18:17] Grrr... drool is bad for my keyboard. [18:17] made by Hewlett-Packard and it comes with Windows 7 Home Premium [18:17] Format c: [18:18] of course, it's getting dual-booted [18:18] lmao [18:18] Windows 7 with Linux in a VM and Linux with Windows 7 in a VM :D [18:18] I wonder if it's softlifting or not to do that, since it's on the same computer XD [18:19] I still have the vendor supplied win7 disk images on this laptop. I should get brave and wipe them. [18:19] and it will with patches hopefully be in the VM and on bare metal, which will be lulzy [18:19] it'll probably invalidate it on WGA though :'( [18:20] I'm not a WIndows adept. WGA? [18:20] Windows Genuine Advantage [18:20] it's a check ran by most Windows updates [18:20] if it fails, the update won't apply [18:20] Hmmm... sounds like an oxynmoron. [18:20] it is, since pirates have gotten around it [18:21] only legit users really suffer [18:21] Typical. [18:21] it's also sorta spyware [18:21] "sort of"? [18:21] they made an app called Windows Genuine Advantage Notification, which appears to call home to MS every time I open control panel [18:22] BTW: what's the cheapest way to get win2000 legit? [18:22] caoliver, amazon might still have it [18:22] if not, find an old computer that used to ship with NT4 [18:22] getting harder and harder to find [18:22] the OEM stickers often have Win2000 keys too [18:23] I don't really want to run it, but every now and then, I get a firmware update bundle for a net appliance shipped as an *.exe. [18:23] You can legally transfer the OEM license once [18:23] QEMU-KVM doesn't do win98. [18:23] http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-2000-Professional/dp/B0006HMWO4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1261783378&sr=8-1 [18:23] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:23] caoliver, VMWare Player does [18:24] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-89-21.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:24] Workstation without a serial lets you create but not run VMs [18:24] Player lets you run but not create VMs [18:24] Workstation comes with Player ;) [18:24] Action: NthDegree gives big hints XD [18:24] I have legal win98 cds, so this is useful. [18:24] caoliver, why w2k? [18:25] QEMU-KVM will run it. [18:25] also that is legal to have since it has expiration "no expiration" if you have no serial IIRC [18:25] will it run xp? [18:25] Doesn't XP have a lot of ET phone home stuff in it? [18:25] hoobop, it runs any NT-based Windows [18:25] caoliver, it does [18:25] That is where WGA started [18:25] xp is a fraction of the price [18:25] Ah! [18:25] thrice`: ugh, thanks. brother ended up taking the laptop and found the download on adobe's site [18:26] hoobop, is it? It's more expensive than Vista from what I have seen [18:26] http://www.amazon.com/Windows-XP-Professional-Service-Pack/dp/B00061H58I/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1261783378&sr=8-6 [18:26] That's an ugly price for outdates crap. [18:27] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [18:27] you're the one trying to buy it ;) [18:28] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [18:28] Under Amazon new/used, there do seem to be cheaper options. [18:29] zux (n=zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:30] On the other hand, it's probably just as well to keep qemu-0.10.6 around to run win98 for these things. [18:30] yosi (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:31] why woud you want to run win98? :) [18:31] games! [18:31] lol [18:31] all the good old ones! [18:32] Firmware for my UPS comes as an exe. [18:32] UPS ::= 12 cell eaton powerware rack mount. [18:32] i thought it would be for "Pong"... my mistake [18:33] I don't trust wine to do the right thing. [18:33] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.145.180) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:34] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) joined ##slackware. [18:34] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-81-201.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [18:36] LnxSlck_ (n=LnxSlck_@81.193.19.216) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:37] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-189-49.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:37] http://www.42u.com/powerware-9125-rm.htm [18:37] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck_@bl6-222-17.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:37] They should provide a Linux based updater, but... [18:39] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Client Quit [18:43] root (i=0@190.77.70.169) joined ##slackware. [18:43] Nick change: root -> bliski [18:43] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:00] Nick change: dErFz -> derfz [19:00] in slackware 12 works fine [19:01] dont ya hate it when that happens ;p [19:01] yosi (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:01] Nick change: derfz -> dErFz [19:01] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:02] Kamel (i=olawd@c-66-177-36-4.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: No route to host [19:06] I'd suspect a driver that wasn't compiled for the kernel in the slackware 13 distro. [19:07] zux (n=zux@balticom-130-134.balticom.lv) joined ##slackware. [19:08] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [19:15] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-81-201.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:17] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78.134.97.18) joined ##slackware. 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[19:59] boojit (n=boojit@gw.carter.to) joined ##slackware. [20:02] can someone help me to apply this patch http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/23383 [20:02] vehn_z1 (n=vehn_z@62.133.182.52) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:03] that's from over a year ago, are you sure it isn' tin the kernel already? [20:04] thrice`, even today i got the jumbo errors... so i would say no [20:05] on which kernel? [20:05] sysbr (n=sysbr@201-93-222-64.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [20:05] 2.6.29.6-smp [20:06] cbpye (n=cbpye@h87.15.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] this sucks real time, my wireless conection keeps droping [20:08] but on windows it works just fine [20:08] so it has to do with the driver for this atheros card [20:08] save the file from the "diff" line until the last define (above trhe "--") [20:09] LnxSlck, it connects but it drops? that's probably not the driver [20:09] call it patch.diff. then move that into your /usr/src/linux-2.6.29.6-smp source dir and run "patch -p1 check your config [20:09] hoobop, yes. it connects, sometimes it lasts 5 minutes, sometimes 20... it depends [20:10] that's not a driver problem, i think [20:10] again, check your config [20:11] hoobop, what config? all i do is set password [20:11] mancha, you mean the first line with --- or the last? should the "1.5.4.2.182.gb3092" be included on the file? [20:12] try something like this in rc.local: [20:12] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] sbin/ifconfig your eth1 whatever your addy [20:12] your essid [20:12] (use iwconfig for that) [20:12] can someone tell me whats wrong with this ? [20:13] http://imagebin.org/76886 [20:13] gateway, netmask, all that good stuff [20:13] hoobop, you mean put the commands needed to get my wireless connection working? [20:13] yeah, pretty much [20:13] and the encryption key, etc (use iwpriv for that) [20:14] hoobop, i use a script i made for that [20:14] same idea; in rc.local, it'll be there everytime [20:15] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] everytime /you boot, reboot/ [20:15] sorry [20:15] lost track there for a moment [20:15] easily distracted [20:15] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:16] something shiny on my web browser caught my eye [20:17] hoobop, not sure why that would fix anything [20:17] i'm just thinking that if it comes up, it's not the drivers [20:17] it's something about the way it's configured [20:18] if it was driver related, it just wouldn't work [20:18] mancha, i get some errors applying the patch, can you take a look at my patch? http://pastebin.com/m575ac3cc [20:19] hoobop, a driver can work (get your interface working) and still malfunction [20:19] I'd be very suprised if a patch from over a year ago applies on a kernel today :> code changes pretty quickly, especially with wireless stuff [20:20] it could; but i'd start with the way i had configured my connection... [20:20] just a thought [20:20] alkos333 (n=alkos333@adsl-69-209-210-66.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:20] hoobop, he can connect fine, but his connection drops on its own [20:20] thrice`, yeah [20:21] hoobop, that's how i set up my connection: http://pastebin.com/m7544f1f5 [20:21] hoobop, could you please take a look at it? [20:22] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:22] looking [20:22] it's pretty straight forward [20:22] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:24] wep or wpa (i had a hard time setting up wpa at first, and it did just what you describe -- up and down) [20:24] drove me nuts [20:24] wep [20:24] simply wep [20:25] Eeek! You're not using WPA2? [20:25] caoliver, no [20:25] no need [20:26] let me just say that i maybe the only person in my homeland using linux [20:26] An American? In this channel? Can't be! [20:26] besides most of people here are pretty old... not to many young people capable [20:26] of hacking [20:26] or doing anything else but download porn or movies [20:27] Via your connection. [20:27] Not good. [20:27] no [20:27] believe me [20:27] Might as well disable WEP and get rid of the overhead if you think like that :D [20:27] That last minute isn't going to matter a lot if someone does decide to show up. [20:27] Here WPA2 with random key. [20:27] TheGroove, i can try that.. but beeing totally open.. [20:28] i could try that. sure [20:28] But I was a professional paranoic for a small ISP. [20:28] LnxSlck: what country is that, btw? [20:28] TheGroove, portugal [20:28] Portugal doesn't have hackers? Hmmm [20:28] TheGroove, not much to with the country, but the land you're in [20:28] anyone got a moment to assist with troubleshooting a LILO issue? It's a minor one, but it's quite annoying. [20:29] Oh, area you mean? [20:29] What up? [20:29] TheGroove, yes [20:29] TheGroove, there are places where you don't even have an internet conection [20:29] TheGroove, and areas where you have only old people [20:29] Wow! [20:29] Old people? Like the ones that still use e-mail instead of facebook? [20:30] TheGroove, no.. like the ones in front of the fireplace [20:30] TheGroove, that get up at 6 am to go plant some potatoes and stuff [20:30] lool [20:31] LnxSlck, did you get that PM [20:31] i'm getting tired of being kicked for posting on channel [20:31] lol [20:31] try a script like that [20:31] see if it works for you [20:32] http://www.marriedtothesea.com/041808/this-is-what-i-get.gif [20:35] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [20:35] Hello People. [20:35] Weird0ne (n=rogue@adsl-76-228-203-12.dsl.bkfd14.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:35] hello [20:37] hello all [20:43] hai [20:47] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:50] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:51] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [20:52] nessundorma (n=mike@78-134-75-101.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: "Leaving" [20:53] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:54] man if only there were a truecrypt initrd for LILO/Linux. then i could truecrypt my windows [20:54] you mean as in full system encrypt? [20:55] earp_child (n=Dirty@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.145.180) joined ##slackware. [20:57] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:58] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. 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[21:11] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:12] i somehow managed to break my mc installation [21:12] geez [21:13] congrats [21:13] wow, nobody is whacking off today [21:13] traffic on my network is down like 80% [21:13] jeev: how so ? [21:13] oh [21:13] lol [21:13] even though my mc.ext is the same since years something is broken [21:13] cteg what ver? [21:14] current [21:14] pthreat (i=c9fa2d10@gateway/web/freenode/x-ieobtzqorfrnmmjd) joined ##slackware. [21:14] it worked. now its broken. i did something bad can't remember [21:14] i'm not running slack 13. what mc ver? i am aware that the new maints did break mc IMHO; i went back to an older version [21:14] Merry Christmas to everyone [21:14] SAVE your usr/lib/mc/* elsewhere too [21:14] ty you too [21:14] i did [21:14] ok [21:15] wow someone alive ! [21:15] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:15] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [21:15] every channel seems pretty much dead [21:15] yea [21:15] with newer versions i copy it back to /etc [21:15] ok [21:15] heh [21:15] deco, what did santa bring for you [21:15] jeev: hi [21:15] jeev: nothing :(, gimme a shell account for christmas [21:15] Action: pthreat got nothing [21:15] pthreat hi [21:15] and it worked. now...man i just don't know. can't dive into 'zips no more [21:15] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving." [21:15] damn deco, since when do white people stop giving their pre-teen's gifts [21:15] i got some money; Yay [21:16] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:16] jeev: i'm a naughty boy i guess :( [21:16] jeev: 16 or so ? [21:16] pthreat, deco is 11 [21:16] then you stop receiveing gifts [21:16] cteg, if you have to you can refresh/reinstall -current or 13.0 [21:16] i just did that :( [21:16] deco: you got nothing for christmas ? [21:16] cteg i went backwards to a working mc [21:16] to no avail [21:16] pthreat: nope, i'm actually 21 btw [21:16] go further back [21:16] you got to make sure though that you completely dump 13.0/-current before doing so [21:17] oh so you did got nothing haha [21:17] :P [21:17] pthreat: sad but true lol [21:17] not even a hot pocket ? [21:17] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:17] example: if everything you want to save is in /home, delete all other directories right before installing [21:17] pthreat: cookies [21:17] well thats fine [21:17] well pthreat well not just for me [21:17] pthreat: i mean it was part of the meal [21:17] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [21:17] Oh :( [21:17] all other directories? [21:17] wtf [21:17] granted, what can't you do? it may be that we can help you figure out what is wrong [21:17] Santa Claus was dragged by the crisis [21:17] what's broken? [21:17] just like everything else [21:18] pthreat: yup sadly :/ [21:18] Callously: broken is santa claus :( [21:18] :( [21:18] cteg, they also made changes to functionality that i didnt like [21:18] there is no santa clause (sp?) [21:18] says who? [21:18] yes they made "some" changes...anyway i kind of fixed it for me months ago [21:18] ok kool [21:19] clause ? I'm sure santa has a lot of policies for good boys and bad boys (?) [21:19] deleting everything but /home and reinstalling to me is a last-ditch thing [21:19] also I dont thgink he does javascript (nerd joke) [21:19] think [21:19] got the new box, copied everything over...problem is dont know exactly since when its broken... [21:19] that would explain half the brokenness [21:19] pthreat: indeed ..he's made a list .. ;) [21:19] SANTA=0 [21:19] export $SANTA [21:19] var santa = "broken"; [21:19] heh [21:20] export God=0 ; [21:20] export SANTA="Crisis"; [21:20] BP{k}, who do you know that will die for santa? 8-) [21:20] Error: Line 0: God cannot be NULL. [21:20] hahaha [21:20] Callously: nobody. but then again I don't know anybody who is willing to die for god either way. [21:20] catch that exception [21:20] god is lie! just like santa :( [21:20] BP{k}, you do now 8-) [21:20] a lie [21:20] santa = satan [21:20] Callously: will you die for me ? i am god [21:21] deco, stop cryin' just because santa took a @#$ down your chimney 8-) [21:21] Gawd doesnt need another sacrifice [21:21] Callously: whatever Hillary. [21:21] Callously: go give clinton a bj [21:21] deco, i know God, he's not like you at all 8-P [21:21] Callously: speaks to you personally does he? calls around for a cuppa? [21:22] PurpleSmurf: seems to me if mc can't figure out the file/mime type...checked everything though [21:22] Callously: I bet he has green leafs and smells like pee [21:22] lol [21:22] 8-S [21:22] cteg ok; [21:22] html opens with elinks that still works [21:22] Action: Callously goes back to trying to destroy the USA's economy with her communism [21:22] !!! GENDER DISONANCE [21:22] tar.gz too...zip dont, pdf wont open...funny- [21:22] err [21:23] what's with communism lately in freenode really [21:23] pthreat they're spreading out [21:23] kill that red crap! [21:23] emboldened by DC success [21:23] soon we all be driving ladas. [21:23] omg santa is a commie! [21:23] red! [21:23] 8-D [21:23] or pushing ladas .. which is usually the way to get the damn thing to move. [21:23] My christmas tree is communist it has a star in the top [21:23] hahaha [21:24] and the deer with the red nose too [21:24] Action: pthreat sets tree on fire [21:24] some people research republic on freeciv first. i research COMMUNISM!! 8-) [21:24] deco: Rudolph is a communist bastard! [21:24] pthreat: down with him! [21:24] Action: Callously hides and waits for people who want to play freeciv [21:24] Action: pthreat kills random deers [21:24] Action: deco drinks their blood [21:25] pochers are right, see [21:25] Action: deco screams [21:25] Which leads to the conclusion of PETA is communist [21:25] yup [21:25] PETA being communist, rather [21:25] dangerseeker_ (n=dangerse@p57A8FA8D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:26] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:26] so ... um ... freeciv anyone? 8-) [21:26] I guess everybody had soem extra ponche or however the hell that's spelled [21:26] punch [21:26] Callously: no! [21:26] is it punch ? [21:26] yep [21:26] Nice name for a drinik [21:26] drink* [21:27] youve had too much [21:27] in soviet russia, punch drinks J0000! [21:27] Here you go, have some "horse kick" [21:27] PurpleSmurf: cold beer actually, just 1lt [21:27] ok [21:27] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [21:28] which *may* become 2 [21:28] I ran the LILO configuration tool again, and added my Windows partition (/dev/sdb3, if it matters) and all I can get when I try to boot it is "Loading Windows." It never progresses beyond that point. The Linux partition is sda1, and the MBR I am writing to is sda's. [21:28] enjoy [21:29] cbpye, is it listed as "other"? [21:30] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [21:30] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Connection timed out [21:30] Callously: in the configuration tool, or in the lilo.conf file? [21:30] pthreat i had mexican beer also with dinner; Texecate (sp?) it was nice. [21:30] cbpye, in lilo.conf [21:31] yes, "other = /dev/sdb3" [21:31] Action: Callously has no clue then [21:31] was it working previously? what changed? [21:31] cbpye which os was installed first? [21:31] and what version of windows? [21:32] smzz (n=zhouguoq@114.249.223.149) joined ##slackware. [21:32] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [21:32] Action: Callously doesn't understand online virus scanning. seriously, scanning an untrusted computer over an untrusted medium? [21:33] pthreat (i=c9fa2d10@gateway/web/freenode/x-ieobtzqorfrnmmjd) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [21:33] Callously: Windows XP. It worked before, when Linux and Windows were both installed on separate partitions on the same drive. When I upgraded to slackware 13, I decided to put Linux on one drive and Windows on another, and the change just isn't taking. I can switch the SATA cables and boot off of the drive just fine as I did before, but that's not convenient at all. [21:34] lin is on sda? win on sdb? [21:34] PurpleSmurf, yes. [21:34] k [21:34] Action: Callously has no clue now [21:35] wait, what is the significance of the "table" entry in lilo.conf? it says "table = /dev/sdb" [21:35] cbpye i suggest that you skip working on getting both boot and focus exclusively on lin; make a new lilo.conf; then when that's working, add section for win [21:35] cbpye read usr/doc/lilo*/README [21:35] it's quite complete [21:35] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) joined ##slackware. [21:35] Purplesmurf: the Lin side is already working fine. [21:35] k [21:35] read doc anyway [21:36] drkstr (n=not@unaffiliated/dedhed) joined ##slackware. [21:36] right, right, thanks for pointing me to that. [21:36] yw [21:37] wasnt it necessary to put windows on the first partition/or disk? cant remember [21:37] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.145.180) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:37] nop; but it is std practice to install win first then linux; bc M# still thinks there are no other os's [21:37] M# tools dont know how to share the hd [21:38] here thats installed...2009-07-14 23:22 mc-20090714_git-x86_64-1.txz [21:39] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:39] sluttyduck (n=slut@74.83.190.80) left irc: Client Quit [21:39] cteg ok; i went back to 4.6 [21:39] oo do you have a 64bit hw? [21:39] yes? [21:39] you dont know? [21:40] sure, i made a ? because you sounded so astonished [21:40] well it wasnt mentioned and in some prob, it is relevent [21:42] smzz (n=zhouguoq@114.249.223.149) left irc: "Leaving" [21:42] ok i'll bbl [21:42] gn merry christmas. [21:42] gone [21:42] later [21:44] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC31385.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [21:45] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [21:46] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:47] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:48] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:54] Nick change: yosi -> nyRednek [21:54] cbpye (n=cbpye@h87.15.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:59] Billtoo_ (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016450.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [22:01] Billtoo_ (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016450.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware. [22:01] cteg (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-104-121.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [22:02] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:03] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:05] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:09] Bassist (n=bass@41.233.200.235) joined ##slackware. [22:12] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [22:12] Weird0ne (n=rogue@adsl-76-228-203-12.dsl.bkfd14.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:15] Bassist (n=bass@41.233.200.235) left irc: "Leaving" [22:36] so slack ships with apache installed? [22:37] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:38] no [22:38] yes [22:38] slackware install media comes with apache, whther it ends on your system or not is up to you [22:38] yes [22:39] always up to the user [22:40] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:40] mancha: I have an rc.httpd but I don't find any conf files or anything that says the apache is there. but in konq, http://localhost says It works. [22:40] not sure where it's installed. [22:40] birdlives (n=lee@pool-72-67-110-188.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:41] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.55.153) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:42] so can anyone help me determine where it's installed? [22:42] you mean where the actuall server is? [22:42] correct. [22:42] /usr/sbin/httpd [22:43] alreadygone (i=1000@119.154.6.157) joined ##slackware. [22:43] lol, should be specific. [22:43] I am looking where the config file is. :) [22:43] so I can see what is configured and such. [22:43] /etc/httpd/httpd.conf [22:44] that's it [22:44] probably running in /var/www/httdocs [22:46] Nick change: rapid_ -> rapid [22:46] I put my docs in /var/www/htdocs/ and that works. :) [22:46] why I wasn't able to find /etc/httpd/ before, I don't know. [22:46] LnxSlck, i really don't like that i can't enable/disable specific plugins in chrome [22:46] of course. that's the default [22:46] thank you guys. [22:47] mancha, what? [22:47] np [22:47] it looks like php might be enabled by default. :) [22:47] what is the role of xz? [22:47] Lnx, i thought it was you who told me he was running chrome...my miusake [22:47] in a standard linux distro? [22:47] is it required? [22:47] mancha, yes i am :) [22:47] xz-utils are a set of lzma compression utilities [22:47] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:47] mancha, yes. but is it needed by the system to install software? [22:48] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [22:48] without them, you wont be able to uncompress *.txz or *.xz files [22:48] mancha, i see. [22:48] so if the packages are *.txz then you won't have joy [22:49] hehhehehe [22:49] coool [22:49] thanks [22:49] crap, php is not enabled. gotta read thru more docs. [22:50] slackwarebob, just uncomment include php in httpd.conf [22:52] LnxSlck: :) [22:52] :) [22:52] and check that php file [22:52] you need to see if the correct path for php lib [22:53] HardDrive (n=FAT32@c-66-31-116-172.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:53] how sexy my ride? [22:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrvC-lgTqhk [22:54] it works! [22:54] LnxSlck: thanks. [22:54] slackwarebob, no problem [22:54] glad i could help [22:54] :) [22:54] how sexy my ride? [22:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrvC-lgTqhk [22:56] again? [22:56] how sexy is my f40? [22:57] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:57] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:58] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] Budd^ (n=budd@76.252.166.92) joined ##slackware. [23:06] howdy all. [23:10] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrvC-lgTqhk [23:11] habaneros (n=habanero@pool-71-101-38-110.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:13] y0 agentc0re [23:14] fire|bird: sup dude. [23:14] agentc0re: 10 friggen inches of snow, and it's still snowing. :P [23:14] HardDrive: so Cytotoxic, how cold is it in Massachusetts? [23:14] fire|bird: Ewww... [23:14] 34F [23:15] I am a harddrive how hot and sexy am i? [23:15] HardDrive: do you want to touch my kernel ? [23:15] fire|bird: http://pastebin.com/m4f2bc32c :D [23:15] nah linux kernel sucks [23:15] man, i love google. [23:16] NT kernel is god [23:16] you should pick a different username when trying to troll. [23:16] troll failure [23:16] i can haz yer interwebs [23:16] haha [23:17] >_< [23:17] P2kCommander [23:17] ahhhhhhhh [23:17] I call upon the power of the dragonzord [23:17] yay [23:18] Ok listen up [23:18] fire|bird: so other than a shit load of snow, how's your day been? [23:18] the bottom line is linux sucks [23:18] boobies [23:18] and thats the bottom line because i said so [23:18] agentc0re: been great, how about yours? [23:18] HardDrive, yes it does.. but does it blows? [23:18] blows ? [23:18] hmm [23:18] blows like the windows [23:18] lool [23:19] HardDrive (n=FAT32@c-66-31-116-172.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:19] fire|bird: It was pretty good, very chill. didn't do much, just got back from my aunts. [23:19] \o/ [23:19] lol [23:19] super troll failure. [23:19] drgonzord never showed up [23:19] agentc0re: indeed, he failed. [23:19] musta gone to check it [23:20] ignorance is bliss just proved itself [23:20] lmao [23:21] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:23] Kamel (i=olawd@c-66-177-36-4.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:25] Kamel (i=olawd@c-66-177-36-4.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:25] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:26] Kamel (i=olawd@c-66-177-36-4.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] is the troll gone? [23:30] HardDrive left the room (quit: "Leaving"). [23:31] hey bibliographical|marvel [23:31] err Urchlay [23:31] hey, assumption|cholera [23:31] err, you know [23:31] agentc0re: 'twas a rhetorical question [23:31] lol, why do you two do that? [23:32] HardDrive left the room (quit: "Crashing") you mean. [23:32] one night fire|bird changed his nick about 8 times to different things with two|words [23:32] agentc0re: they are ex-lovers [23:32] :P [23:32] Action: Callously is now known as FuckYou|Too [23:32] agentc0re: It all started with when I was changing nicks a lot, Urchlay and BP{k} gave me a random_dictionary_words script, we've used it ever since. :P [23:32] so I thought I'd help him try out lots of new nick, wrote a dumb little script to generate them [23:32] Dominian: with a hard-on for each other still, obviously. :P [23:33] agentc0re: apparently [23:33] heh. My exes would be called something like lying|whore or evil|bitch [23:33] plus, female [23:33] haha [23:33] hard|on [23:33] you|wish [23:33] Action: Callously echo "off" > /sys/devices/system/hard [23:33] s/you/Urchlay [23:33] you|Urchlay [23:34] bite|me [23:34] Your|Mom [23:34] loves|pen15 [23:34] [23:34] o_o [23:34] "yo mamma so fat, she got her own zip code" [23:34] deco|haiku [23:34] agentc0re: We know you do, now tell us something we DON'T know. [23:34] no that was a CLOSE not an open [23:34] Callously: the OS ? :P [23:34] deco, google chrome? i dunno 8-) [23:35] fire|bird: iknowitall :P hahah [23:35] Callously: no there's an OS with that name let me heck [23:35] check* [23:35] eh, I probably first heard that joke in elementary school, so the close tag didn't really apply [23:35] [23:35] Callously: haiku-os.org/ [23:35] Callously: not in the ##slackware DTD (if it were, we'd all be banned) [23:36] it does exist! 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