[00:00] yeah, heh [00:00] hmm, brb [00:01] wicd: what a great little program. :) [00:02] Weird... I had already installed and run it previously to no avail [00:02] ... hmm [00:02] you need a reboot for rc.wicd to start [00:02] if you dont do it manually [00:02] I thought I had... [00:02] no. just run wicd as root [00:02] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:03] Well, whatever, it works! I love you all so much. [00:03] Okay, the Vaio keys. [00:03] Any thoughts? [00:03] Xmodmap [00:03] xev [00:03] 'Course, I was originally trying to play with them in KDE 4.2 where nothing is where it should be... [00:03] MrHales: what's the graphics on your vaio? can you grep that right now? [00:04] (i'm just curious) [00:04] The card or the driver its using or both? [00:04] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@32.164.237.76) joined ##slackware. [00:04] it's onboard, right? just lspci -v and let me know what it's called (if you don't mind) [00:05] It uses the GM45 chipset, but I don't recall the specific make, sure hold on [00:06] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] rworkman: i tried pppd call sierra and it didn't do anything, so i cat /var/log/messages and well... [00:06] Intel mobile 4 series chipset integrated [00:07] there was a slew of them but one of them along the lie said failed [00:07] line even [00:07] MrHales: oh man. you have x up and running properly? if so, what driver is listed in the xorg.conf? "intel", "i810"? [00:07] or neither... [00:08] but it's midnight and i got to get up at 6 and load this woman's furniture [00:08] "intel" [00:08] glxgears gives about 950fps, if I remember correctly [00:08] wtf? and it works? you're getting the right res and everything?? [00:08] close [00:09] 1280x800 [00:09] gotta get mine working. thanks for your help. oh, mine's 1600x900 [00:09] I think its capable of more, but I'm happy enough [00:09] I just ran xorgsetup [00:09] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:09] It fingered it all out for me [00:09] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] It started out, fresh 12.2 install, at 1024x768 max with no acceleration [00:10] I think it was using the default vesa driver? [00:11] /c [00:11] Any ideas for getting more resolution out of this thing? [00:11] MrHales, you got HDMI out? [00:11] jiffypop: save the whole set of messages there; I'll look at them tomorrow [00:12] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:12] You know, I have no idea... not my box, just Slacking it up for my Army buddy [00:12] How would I know? [00:12] That sounds wrong. How may I check? (Better. :-)) [00:12] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:13] Anyone here with an Eee PC, btw, more specifically: a 900a? [00:13] MrHales: you could look to see whether there exists the appropriate port. :P [00:13] U-Neeks (n=666@200-96-137-138.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [00:13] rworkman: will do. not sure how late it will be. i gotta load 9,000 lbs. in philly and drive to DC tomorrow [00:13] Port for an external monitor [00:14] but i'll try my best to get in here [00:14] then no hdmi if you don't see one [00:14] thanks a million, man [00:14] Aside from the standards (eth, usb, etc) [00:14] You a driver, jiffy? [00:15] strange... x does not load if i use either 'intel' or 'i810' [00:15] What does xorgsetup want to make it? [00:15] and you've managed to get x going with 'intel' and the same chipset [00:15] Yeah, I guess so... hold on and I'll get you some specifics... [00:16] dk (n=lima@dk.linuxsecured.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:16] MrHales: i'm a mover. i just have to drive my truck to facilitate my job, lol [00:17] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [00:17] Ah, cool [00:17] Made me curious, is all [00:18] Action: MrHales has a class A [00:19] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:19] hear ya, brother. i started moving folks in 93 and can't seem to leave it alone [00:19] https://abr.gov.au/ABR_BC/AnonBrowserNotSupported.aspx?Err=01 [00:19] good work federal government [00:19] xf86-video-intel-2.6.0 driver on Intel 4500MHD GM45 chipset [00:19] for antler, that was [00:19] but hey, i'm old and i gotta get to sleep before spook kills me [00:20] Alright. Nice to meet you, jiffy [00:20] MrHales: yeah same here [00:20] back atcha, Hales [00:20] http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/games/b76e/ [00:20] jesus 9000 lbs [00:20] So cool! [00:20] hold on, I'll grab a copy of the xorg.conf on that ... [00:20] later, folks [00:21] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@32.164.237.76) left irc: "remember, there's no money above the 5th fret" [00:21] want that in a msg antler? [00:22] i wonder how likely it is for a truck driver to pick up a little hottie hitchhiker to bang [00:22] MrHales: can you pastebin it? [00:22] I'm sorry? [00:22] Very unlikely, antler. [00:22] I speak from experience, there [00:22] hahaha [00:22] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] What's pastebin, sorry, been away from IRC for ages [00:23] and the Net almost as long [00:23] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:23] goto pastebin.ca . copy the contents of whatever, then paste [00:24] Note the default for pastebin.ca is to keep forever, so change if you don't want that. [00:24] f3ck4r (i=f3ck4r@189.81.224.80) joined ##slackware. [00:24] http://pastebin.ca/1346540 [00:24] nyx (n=nyx@c-24-60-48-226.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:25] oh, oops? [00:25] f3ck4r (i=f3ck4r@189.81.224.80) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:25] oh, no it says it'll expire [00:25] Thanks for the heads up on pastebin. That is so cool [00:26] If I were to add (is it) Mode lines to that, could I up the res? [00:26] rworkman: ping [00:26] nyx (n=nyx@c-24-60-48-226.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:26] IntangibleLiquid (n=anhhung@115.73.33.197) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:27] MrHales: thanks for the post. yeah, i noticed the 'intel' there, and that's what i tried. no love. [00:27] Cause on my desktop (CRT) monitor, to get the full bang for my buck, I had to put mode lines in [00:27] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [00:27] mbhayes: whazzup? [00:27] rworkman: http://dev.noobfarm.org [00:27] MrHales: is the lappy capable of more? [00:27] click on any quote id [00:27] xdan779 (n=daniel@64-233-207-75.static.nap.wideopenwest.com) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [00:27] I honestly don't know [00:27] f3ck4r (i=f3ck4r@189.81.224.80) joined ##slackware. [00:28] googles the model and examine the specs [00:28] mbhayes: I like that :D [00:28] I came with (*gag*) Vista, originally, and, it may just have been presentation, but it *looked* like it had more resolution, then [00:28] mbhayes: A little slow on loading though.. :/ [00:29] what is 720p? [00:29] Rather, what res does 720p convert to? [00:29] 1024x720 [00:29] I don't speak "sales" natively [00:30] Oh, then I have already surpassed it [00:30] .. wait i think i am wrong. [00:30] :P [00:30] Darn [00:30] Why is it that the entire computing world knows resolution as NxN and tv's have to go mess it all up? [00:30] i think you were half right. 1280. [00:31] any OOo3 scalc users hanging around? I can't figure out how to copy/paste a chart and #ooo is silent [00:32] Okay... Wow, that was all so much easier! Just rolling back to vanilla 12.2 instead of trying to get KDE 4.2 working and whammo, I'm 90% there. [00:34] Okay, why does the Wacom mouse refuse to move the system cursor while the stylus will? The system responds to the mouse clicks as it shoud [00:35] should, too [00:35] Action: MrHales burns his typist at the stake. [00:36] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:36] NyteOwl (i=nodezero@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: "There are four types of hats to be aware of: Black, White, Grey and Red. The meanings are: Cracker, Hacker, Guru and Victim. [00:37] Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:37] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:38] Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:38] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:38] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:38] crap, what was that X input thing for setting the Fn keys? xev and what? [00:38] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:38] Little question about SSHFS. [00:38] Such technical language... I hope I do not confuse [00:38] How to mount an ssh server which is not using the default port 22? I don't see any option on SSHFS to specify the port, unlike SSH... [00:39] ganeshix: setup your known_hosts [00:39] i mean, setup ssh_config [00:39] you can do it in either actually [00:40] nullboy, tnx a lot. I'll look into that immediately. [00:40] ganeshix: sshfs support -p though [00:40] look in the man page [00:40] -o port=PORT [00:40] damn i have massive typos [00:41] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [00:41] you can do -o port=X or -p X [00:41] does it? I didn't try because neither the help or their page show that option. I'll try that immediately. [00:41] nullboy, cool. tnx for the timely tip... [00:42] agentc0re1: yeah its a bit slow loading. [00:42] agentc0re1: I need to work out how to get the automatic height/width for the window. [00:43] rootzig (n=rootzig@201-75-231-233-am.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [00:43] MrHales, what do you need other than xev? [00:43] mbhayes: Ah. I've been wanting to play around with lightbox (or whatever ever variant) myself. Which one are you using? [00:43] whats version? slackware? [00:44] A tool for setting the (silly) Fn keys on a Vaio [00:44] oh, and how do I get more funcionality out of the touchpad? [00:44] .Xmodmap ? [00:44] Are there special drivers (and what is a jogdial?) [00:44] Yeah, that's it, I think, thanks! [00:45] agentc0re1: lightbox [00:45] nullboy, it works great. nullboy=genious [00:45] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:45] genious :D [00:46] rootzig (n=rootzig@201-75-231-233-am.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: "reinstall mirc" [00:46] agentc0re1: going to check with the devs at work tomorrow to see what would be involved with getting an automatic height/width for the data involved [00:46] Anyone use a Wacom tablet? A Wacom Bamboo Fun 6x8? And get teh mouse to work right? Huh? Huh!? [00:46] "the", even [00:46] send me one and I'll let you know MrHales [00:46] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:46] Nick change: aceofspa1es19 -> aceofspades19 [00:47] Action: MrHales impales his typist Draculea-style [00:47] I'd love to! But its not mine [00:47] You know, screw it. Let *him* figure it out. [00:47] Good, cheap, and fast. Pick any two. [00:48] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: No route to host [00:48] mbhayes: http://forums.shopify.com/categories/2/posts/5455 [00:48] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:49] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:49] He's getting a Vaio with Slackware 12.2, a good selection of games, the latest Gimp (courtesy rworkman's fine guidance) and OOo, a drawing tablet that works in Gimp, at least, and I'm doing it for free. So, there1 [00:50] ARGH! "!" [00:50] Action: MrHales tortures his typist. "I lose more typists that way..." [00:51] What the hell are you talking about man? [00:51] agentc0re1: that's for forcing it to one size.. and one size only.. [00:51] agentc0re1: I'm talking about automatic adjustment to the size height/width wise on load [00:51] My Army buddy, for whom I'm setting up this damnable laptop. [00:52] He's been very patient, thankfully. [00:52] mbhayes: I saw something about setting it to small, medium or large. Let me find that. [00:52] Well with quotes.. the width/height will change depending on how long the lines are or the quote is... [00:52] be nice to adjust the lightbox window based on that [00:53] Oh, and if you haven't at least tried out an Eee PC, you should. Very lightweight, small to the point of claustrophobia, but it runs a distro natively and is available at major retail chains. At $200 bucks, they're worth buying and giving away as gifts if only to cut into Microshaft's market share [00:54] mbhayes: OIC, IE: if it's 0-20 lines, it's medium and if it's 21-1000000 it's large. Something like that? [00:54] yah [00:54] Found something someone did for images to do auto resize [00:55] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: "leaving" [00:58] agentc0re1: apparently lightbox does dynamically size for images... [00:58] mbhayes: http://blog.hma-info.de/2008/04/09/latest-lightbox-v2-with-automatic-resizing/ [00:58] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Connection timed out [01:00] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.176.74) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:00] crap .. I'm using lightwindow [01:00] haha [01:00] HAHAHA [01:00] that's ok [01:00] give me a few [01:05] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [01:06] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [01:07] agentc0re1: problem with that is lightbox appears to be only for images [01:09] er hrm wait [01:10] plipp (n=cam@m83-188-193-111.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [01:11] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:12] agentc0re1: yeah apparently that's just images [01:12] mbhayes: There's also slimbox2. [01:12] mbhayes: Sucky. [01:12] slimbox? [01:13] Yup, there are a lot of variants. Not sure if it does text, i'm looking at it now. [01:13] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Say good night to the bad guy." [01:13] and htat's written for jquery [01:13] which I dn't use [01:13] I use prototype ;) [01:13] Gotcha. [01:14] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-24-4-99-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-24-4-99-94.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:15] mbhayes: what about, http://www.ibegin.com/labs/ibox/ ? [01:15] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:15] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Client Quit [01:16] mbhayes: and another, http://www.ibegin.com/labs/ibox/ possible solution. [01:16] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [01:17] mbhayes: Oh, i like this one better. http://orangoo.com/labs/GreyBox/ [01:18] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.176.74) joined ##slackware. [01:18] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:19] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. 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[02:21] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:21] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:22] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-70-92-3-35.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: "::" [02:25] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-326388.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:30] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [02:37] BirdInTux (n=jake@66-188-247-248.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:37] was just curious how slackware compares to other distros (advantages/disadvantages) [02:38] BirdInTux: tias [02:39] tias? [02:39] I'm guessing "try it and see" [02:41] Im using debian at the moment just trying to find out if its better or not [02:42] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:44] i heard debian is an administrators dream [02:44] Would you expect a slackware channel to say no x distro is far better than slack? Install slackware in VirtualBox, and give it a try. You won't be dissapointed. [02:44] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.22) joined ##slackware. [02:46] jonsmith1982: As long as the administrator doesn't mind installing a ton of dependencies [02:52] I dunno, are progs on debian more dependant than the same progs on slackware? I think its more likely that slackware people just have all the libs installed already and slack doesnt complain about deps [02:52] MrHales (n=user@12.166.25.119) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:55] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "leaving" [02:55] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [02:56] who was talking to me about dependencies? [02:56] Mr (n=user@12.166.25.119) joined ##slackware. [02:57] Nick change: Mr -> Guest84290 [02:57] anyways, ime Debian's got unnecessary library dependencies for some packages [02:57] I remember it frustrating me [02:57] Otherwise I like teh distribution. [03:00] pupit1 (n=p@91.150.106.195) joined ##slackware. [03:02] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [03:02] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [03:02] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. 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[03:38] 8.10 [03:38] "8.10" [03:38] i'm assuming you mean ubuntu [03:39] It's not the distribution's fault that people can be clueless. [03:41] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:41] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [03:43] thats still better than: what internet provider? internet explorer [03:43] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:43] BirdInTux (n=jake@66-188-247-248.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [03:44] better than people using /me to say things instead of "doing" them [03:44] ;P [03:44] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:46] atleast that Milkeh knows that there are other OS's [03:47] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:49] godling, -_- [03:50] juice_ (i=juice@67.48.19.13) joined ##slackware. [03:50] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:50] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:51] pupit1 (n=p@91.150.106.195) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:57] snL40 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [03:59] let's all go to http://urank.viveri.com/ and type in linux [04:00] Xires012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [04:00] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:01] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:02] Riley (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: [04:05] juice_ (i=juice@67.48.19.13) left irc: Dead socket [04:05] I typed slackware [04:09] hiptobecubic: i lol'd [04:10] Politics (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [04:12] also, be thankful he didn't say "98SE" :p [04:13] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:13] ouch [04:14] PeanutHorst: that's better than "ME" :p [04:15] godling_ (n=harry@pool-71-104-224-165.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:16] fred: anything's better than Me, even vista [04:16] Action: antler still has his original windows 95 cd. mint condition. collector's item. for sale. [04:17] Xires012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Connection timed out [04:17] (trades considered) [04:17] Xires012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [04:18] i'' trade for the win95 floppies [04:19] Action: antler stabs tank-man in the chest [04:19] well i have my original windows 1.0 floppies [04:20] antler: but does it come with Microsoft Internet Explorer? :p [04:21] MrHales (n=user@12.166.25.119) joined ##slackware. [04:22] volo (n=volo@netacc-gpn-43-235.gprs.pgsm.hu) joined ##slackware. [04:23] hi [04:23] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [04:23] godling_ (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:26] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:28] PeanutHorst: that's the bonus. :) i tried installing 95 in vbox, but it just wouldn't go. wanted to remember my undergrad years on the computer using 95 [04:32] antler: i'm going to try installing DR-DOS or FreeDOS on kvm, with windows 3.1 [04:32] oooooh yeah. [04:33] hahah 3.1 [04:35] what! [04:35] i wanna do some 3.1 programming :p [04:35] i'm trying to punish myself for sexual deviancy you see, so i'm inflicting pain on myself for engaging in such acts instead of hacking emacs :P [04:36] Xires012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:36] Xires012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [04:36] pics or it didn't happen [04:37] (pics of the girls ofcourse. your mug on them is not needed really) [04:37] man i remember owning a vic20. ahhh those were the days [04:39] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:41] My neighbor had one. We had a Commodore 64 [04:41] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc3-asht4-0-0-cust917.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [04:42] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:42] Strangely, we were each jealous of the other... [04:42] kids, you know [04:42] ? [04:42] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:44] hahah memory lane. i remember wanting to play commodore 64 games, but couldn't [04:46] Frogger 2 and Mario Bros. ("Super?" What the..?) 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[05:36] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [05:36] OK people - visit http://www.desktoplinux.com/cgi-bin/survey/survey.cgi?id=0115200914416 and show them that you use Slackware on your desktop [05:36] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:38] they are looking for a survey from their readership, why do you want to skew their results? :) [05:39] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [05:40] Only because they put Slackware and SLAX together in a single box and Vector Linux in another [05:40] Hey, 1.7% aint bad [05:41] and i've read that mag... ... ... once. [05:42] hm... since when does vector deserve its own box? I thought it followed Pat pretty closely. [05:44] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) joined ##slackware. [05:44] 1.7+0.3=2% yeay [05:45] ryht|AFC (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:45] sample size of 7046 [05:46] 140 slackware users in that poll [05:46] 119 users at 1.7% [05:48] at 1.8 now :D [05:48] not sure why they put slack and slax together [05:49] ubuntu 29.2% [05:49] more people use konqueror than opera? a shame [05:50] wow... I'm on the 1.7% for dist, 0.4% for desktop, 1.7% for email client, 1.1% for windows. I'm really a weirdo [05:51] Xires012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [05:51] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:52] does anybody know where libssl.so.4 is located? what package? [05:52] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [05:53] Action: Zordrak punts at openssl ... [05:55] it's an old openssl lib,in other distros it's usually in the 'compat-' package [05:56] Ro8inB (n=Robinb@c83-248-0-238.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [05:56] Slackytude: Do any other browsers beside Konqueror and (I think) Safari support text shadows, yet? [05:56] hi all. [05:58] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:58] i'm having problem connecting to wireless. It's a belkin 54 g. I don't really know where to begin. [06:00] i'm trying kwifimanager. And i find my router, but i don't know how to connect to it. [06:00] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:01] MrHales, no clue [06:01] Ro8inB: wicd.sourceforge.net [06:01] Ro8inB, try wicd, it is a nice gui app and is in extras in slack 12.2 [06:01] I wonder if konqueror gets any love back from apple and google (chrome) [06:02] Install that, then # /etc/rc.d(orwhatever)/rc.wicd [06:02] or #wicd [06:02] %wicd-client [06:02] MrHales: ok i:l try that. Thanks [06:03] testrizitis (n=mint@athedsl-4559347.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:05] I could make that... like, complete sentences. It worked on this Vaio that had been giving me fits (wirelessly) [06:05] Worked like a dream, actually. [06:05] Don't thank me, thank rworkman who supplied me with the same info just a few short hours ago. [06:06] I'm not an expert, but I play one on TV. ;-) [06:07] :) [06:07] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) joined ##slackware. [06:08] alienBOB: since you're reading DL site... you might want to correct them on http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5693484129.html [06:09] err. http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS4508353206.html ... Based on Slackerware 12 [06:09] Nick change: JavaShin -> WrongDevice [06:09] wicd doesnt start, the time glass comes up then nothing? [06:10] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [06:10] Xires012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:10] Ro8inB reboot your system [06:10] tntslack, ok [06:10] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [06:10] Ro8inB: did you started wicd? ( /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd start ) [06:11] then open wicd app from the menu (f.e. kmenu | Internet ) [06:11] started? [06:12] i'll try to reboot brb [06:12] Ro8inB (n=Robinb@c83-248-0-238.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:13] he must be on wired connection now :) was confused for a bit [06:13] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) joined ##slackware. [06:13] testrizitis (n=mint@athedsl-4559347.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [06:14] JavaShin (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/javashin) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:15] hrm, how can i tell what process has a particular connection open? [06:15] lsof [06:15] that works on sockets too? [06:15] i believe so, yes [06:18] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Connection timed out [06:18] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Connection timed out [06:19] uh [06:19] netstat -p [06:19] but lsof will work too [06:21] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [06:22] Dadsy (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [06:23] Ro8inB (n=Robinb@c83-248-0-238.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [06:23] it worked =) [06:24] Thank you. [06:25] Ro8inB nice :) [06:25] Ro8inB: btw, you installed the 1.5.9 or 1.5.6 ? [06:26] don't 1.5.6 [06:26] ? [06:26] i know hehe [06:26] i just took what was on my cd. [06:26] mirrors have the 1.5.6 in extra... 1.5.9 in patches dir [06:26] ok [06:27] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:27] ah. you might want to upgrade then... f.e. from http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/patches/packages/ [06:27] Anyone configured CUPS to output to a postscript-capable plotter? [06:27] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [06:27] not that it's mandatory or something [06:29] WrongDevice (n=JavaShin@unaffiliated/wrongdevice) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:29] does anyone know if there are a howto for installing slackware and picking every software yourself? [06:29] WrongDevice (n=WrongDev@unaffiliated/wrongdevice) joined ##slackware. [06:30] newbie mode, expert mode, menu mode [06:30] newbie takes a decade, expert or menu (same) only takes a year [06:30] :-) [06:31] WrongDevice (n=WrongDev@unaffiliated/wrongdevice) left irc: Client Quit [06:31] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [06:31] One assumes, of course, you mean installing the system and picking and choosing amongst the packages available on teh disc(s) [06:31] "the", even [06:32] s/the/teh/ it was better that way [06:32] yes thats right [06:33] Ro8inB: in case you didn't understood him... in the slackware installer itself there are those mentioned "modes" of installation... [06:33] After addswap, setting targets and choosing source (the cd/dvd), if I remember correctly, you'll be presented with several options. The first is to install *everything* and the others are as described plus use of specialized setup files (such as for setting up a series of computer identically) [06:34] +s [06:35] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: "cya!" [06:35] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [06:37] The-spiki, yea ive seen them i was just eating egg. [06:37] If that isn't as clear as mud, I'd be glad to confuse things further for you. [06:37] mmmm.... eggs.... [06:37] but the advance mode is it all from scratch then? [06:37] hardware and everything? [06:37] or whats the difference between the modes? [06:38] No, it still installs packages all automagically, you just have varying degrees of choice and are presented with varying levels of information [06:38] newbie will tell you everything, but takes an age and a day [06:38] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:38] ok, so newbie explains everything for you then? [06:39] menu/expert tell you if you ask, takes a long time. Worthwhile, though, if one is interested installing what is *needed* and wanted [06:39] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [06:39] Fairly well... I haven't done that mode in a long while, but yeah, it'll tell you if a package is required, recommended or otherwise, generally [06:40] as I said, I think the same info is available in menu/expert, but you must ask for it (arrow over to the correct option or press ? or something) [06:40] ok, i'll check it out, it itches in my fingers now when the system works hehe [06:41] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:41] ok, thanks guys [06:41] I'll be doing something similar soon, myself. I'm going to install Slack on an Eee PC 900a (teeny drive) so I'll need to be *very* choosy [06:41] superGear (i=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [06:41] is that a mini pc? [06:42] Very. [06:42] 4G ssd drive [06:42] (flash card hard drive, basically) [06:42] ok, is it a laptop? [06:42] Only $200 at your local Worst Buy and comes with (a highly modified and dumbed-down) Xandros on it [06:42] A "netbook" [06:42] Laptop-lite only weighs about 2 lbs. [06:43] cool. [06:43] or, if I remember correctly, .99kg [06:43] any pictures? [06:43] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:43] Check out eeepc.asus.com its the official site [06:43] i have a sony ericsson x1. Would have been cool to have slackware on that [06:43] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsX42iFYjro [06:44] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [06:44] Ro8inB check youtube ;) [06:44] allright :) [06:44] tntslack, god I hate that guy, from tigerdirect. [06:44] There are larger, more featurefull models [06:44] xaxa [06:44] Some with real hdd [06:45] He could hold a bowl of shit and say "WOW THIS IS SO COOL THE COOLEST BOWL OF SHIT IN THE UNIVERSE" [06:45] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [06:45] acidchild, around? [06:45] That's all salesmen, though. [06:46] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [06:46] it is marketing... [06:46] I guess. [06:46] and the ssd (solid state drive they call it) that's stock in the cheapo 900a (like the one I'm chatting with right now) is very, very slow on the write [06:46] but start up times are quickety-quick and, for such a small price for a rugged little guy that can take a drop or two (which I surely will eventually, accidents happen), can't beat the little gem [06:47] tntslack, does it have wifi? [06:47] sure [06:47] Damn [06:47] I want one [06:47] average price? [06:47] Oh, the touchpad (at least on this cheapy) is a bit... off. [06:47] he's abusing the laptop [06:47] about 300 euro [06:47] One can get used to it, but it ust not quite right [06:47] guys, is anyone good with openvpn that can answer some doubts? [06:48] $400? damn [06:48] you can get a nice laptop for that [06:48] garme (n=garme@189.17.54.86) joined ##slackware. [06:48] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:48] should have been: "...it, but its just not..." [06:49] Low-end Dells go for 400 or under [06:49] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [06:49] looks good. lots of stuff. [06:49] 300 Euros = 479.975749 Canadian dollars [06:50] Jesus [06:50] just yesterday my coworker was showing me dell mini 9" for $99 [after mail-in rebate] [06:50] we have a few of those, they're neat [06:51] usually, computer price in europe's euros translates 1-on-1 to US dollar prices. So this netbook is 300 euros, I guess it will sell for roughly 300 dollars overseas [06:51] ananke, are they fast enough for anything but web browsing? [06:51] I said earlier, and will say again: this little 900a is cheap and comes with Linux on it. Just buying one to vote with dollars and help shrink the M$ market share is worth it [06:51] but if you want for surfing on the internet, just buy one OLPC and cost about 180 euro :) [06:52] nachox : why would you want to do anything other than that on it? :) [06:52] Another good choice [06:52] up to 6 hours battery life time [06:52] On the OLPC? [06:52] ananke, i guess no reason :) 100 is cheap, really cheap [06:52] yea [06:52] f3ck4r (i=f3ck4r@189.81.224.80) left irc: "Leaving" [06:52] Wow. [06:53] I can buy like [06:53] 3 msi wind pcs for the price of that netbook [06:53] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [06:53] and i coming with fedora linux based [06:53] it* [06:53] <--- 3-6 hrs [06:53] 6 with dim screen, wifi off, sound off, no demanding usage [06:53] or Mandriva [06:53] 3 average [06:54] Ro8inB (n=Robinb@c83-248-0-238.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:54] MrHales a friend of mine had one, he was surfing on the internet and was about 6 hours [06:54] with wifi on [06:55] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:55] btw the version 1, not 2 :) [06:57] I've been unplugged now for... dunno, 3 hours, maybe? [06:57] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [06:57] screen fully lit, leeching net from router across the street (rural area) and I got 25% remaining [06:58] on OLPC the screen is one of the best one, that consuming less watt than others screens [06:58] not to mention it has a nice crank-winder [06:58] :p [07:00] I like the idea of human-powered computing, it'd force me to exercise... 'Net-r-cise those buns! Burn calories while surfing! Apply today! [07:01] but but but [07:01] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:01] think how much exercise it would take to provide enough power to compile gcc, glibc, binutils, linux kernel [07:01] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [07:01] and god forbid you try to compile BSD xD [07:01] I tried to get my local congregation to donate to the OLPC during last years holiday drive... dunno if there were any takers.. [07:02] congregation? [07:02] My church. [07:02] interesting [07:02] Not that I preach at, just attend [07:02] k [07:03] I figure the OLPC initiative to provide computers to children in so-called third world countries to be pretty noble [07:03] Being a bit of a techie, I couldn't think of a better charitable cause to support [07:03] [ horst-tla ] [ burkhardth ] [ ~/virt ] ==> kvm-img create -f qcow dos.img 8G <-- am i gonna kick myself in the morning for virtualising DOS? :p [07:04] And, seeing as most people are generally pretty self-serving, I did mention that the OLPC drive that year was a buy-one-get-one thing [07:04] MrHales: oh, it's definitely a noble cause. but you forget that most people will think "fucksake, give them food and water, they don't need goatse just yet" [07:05] i for one personally think it's never too early for a civilisation to be aware of goatse en masse. ;) [07:05] Well, you know what they say: Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. [07:05] exactly. [07:06] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:06] it's odd, i actually don't remember why i'm in here [07:07] i think it's from when i was running zenwalk, which i no longer run, but what can i say, the non-slackware topics are worth staying for :S [07:07] Always happy to entertain. [07:07] If I am, that is. [07:08] oh, you are :D [07:08] :-D [07:08] projects atm : updating gentoo, recompiling freebsd, trying to virtualise dos, not losing my sanity. [07:08] you can see where i went from slackware, i'm now a junkie :P [07:08] Only thing about this Eee PC is having to put stuff under it to bring it up to a comfortable level. [07:09] Infinitely portable, impossibly low work surface [07:09] *nod* [07:09] anyone put slack on an eee? [07:10] Ro8inB (n=Robinb@c83-248-0-238.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [07:10] I just got done building Qt, PyQt (yet to install) and yotz, cuz I *like* KDE 4.2 despite teh warts and I'm going to use it, dammit! [07:10] I'm going to today [07:10] :-) [07:10] There's a project called (of course) Slackeee but it seems to be focused on, as it were, last year's model. [07:10] isn't that the way of slackware though? ;) :P [07:11] SHIT [07:11] I'm just going to do a bare-bones, see if I can compile a teeny kernel (or, better: find one) that fits this thing like a glove [07:11] firefox just crashed again :( [07:11] and then build up from three [07:11] there, too [07:11] MrHales: i wish you luck with that, sounds mildly tricky [07:11] rizitis (n=rizitis@athedsl-4559347.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:12] Compared to the hoops that KDE 4.2 is necessitating (damn Qt), it should be a breeze [07:12] touché [07:12] I'll probably just steal the kernel that's already present and use it [07:12] no! [07:13] on this thing, that is [07:13] hmm [07:13] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actt60.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [07:13] i wonder if it's possible to build GNU on top of DOS [07:13] :\ [07:13] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:14] 2.6.21.4-eeepc custom from Asus [07:14] Just out of curiosity, why virtualize DOS instead of, say, DOSBox? [07:14] Which from my, limited, point of view amounts to the same thing [07:15] All I want out of this is (maybe) Gimp on the go, OOo, 'Net tools, and maybe a time-waster (Wesnoth what?) [07:16] I see little need for media, such-like, as this is just work-on-the-go-box [07:16] and Slack is my comfort-zone [07:17] fau_ (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [07:17] *nod* [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-74-191.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:17] but if k3b doesn't work after all I've gone through with Qt, I'm giving up with great wailing and gnashing of teeth and rolling back to 3.5 until I get around to trying E again [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-74-241.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:17] MrHales: virtualise dos so you can run windows 3.1 [07:17] Never have gotten that thing to work out for me [07:17] ;) [07:17] Oh! [07:18] Ether_Man (n=polx@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [07:18] ... but why? [07:18] Copy of Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe lying around? [07:18] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [07:18] i'm trying to punish myself for sexual deviancy you see, so i'm inflicting pain on myself for engaging in such acts instead of hacking emacs :P [07:18] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:18] *cough*vi*cough* [07:19] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left ##slackware. [07:19] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) joined ##slackware. [07:19] sxemacs. [07:19] vim [07:19] Action: MrHales nods sagely. [07:19] sxemacs + viper ? [07:19] fau_ (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) left irc: Client Quit [07:19] Actually never tried emacs, you believe that? [07:19] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:20] Never even started the app, not once. [07:20] MrHales: perhaps you should try it before you say vim is better then [07:20] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [07:20] No, in class, once, so the teacher could show off the tetris game somebody wrote in Lisp [07:20] I didn't say "better" [07:20] I just like vi [07:20] truth be told i use both gvim and sxemacs [07:20] fast. [07:21] fast and I'm not even very good at it [07:22] If I were very good at it, I'd be using it to write sed scripts instead of changing things by hand, which I actually enjoy, which I fail to understand such curious pleasure. [07:22] Rather: ...which curious pleasure I fail to understand. [07:22] I must be getting tired, my grammar is beginning to fail. My internal English teacher has fallen asleep at the wheel. [07:23] he's about to crash into a french english teacher! [07:24] "sudo rm -rf / tmp/ggggggggg / " <---- the dangers of falling asleep at the wheel (group) [07:25] lol [07:25] i think i once accidentally did sudo rm -f * in my homedir [07:25] "Je vais venir" <--- one year of French... 18 years ago [07:25] thankfully most of my shit was in subdirectories [07:26] *nod* [07:26] I did that to my work file, having just uploaded its entire contents the day before on a whim to my webserver [07:26] wow [07:27] Yeah. I almost cried... actually, I think I might have for about 5 seconds and then screamed with joy and scared the crap out of my wife and kids. [07:28] Because its the way my mind works, I never stop giggling inside that my initials spell Mr. Hales [07:28] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Say good night to the bad guy." [07:29] Well, first two and last name, that is... Mr. H otherwise, and still funny [07:29] hm. So you constantly hear a voice in your head, laughing maniacally? cool. [07:29] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:29] Doesn't everyone? [07:29] The voices told me to say "no" [07:29] And not constantly. Only when somebody is hurt. [07:29] Especially bleeding. [07:29] Im sure everybody who uses vi and emacs hears manically laughing voices [07:29] And I'm wiping off my straight razor. [07:30] straight razor... a traditionalist, I see [07:30] Then most of all. [07:30] Hey, its got panache [07:30] it's a lot safer to wield against someone else than it is to try to shave with it, that's for sure [07:31] I mean, being threatened with a firearm is scary. Being threatened by a psycho with a straight razor is just terrifying. [07:31] now you're making me flashback to the scene in "Angel Heart" where he's cutting a guy's throat with a straight razor and pauses to take a drag off his cigarette... [07:31] Wow, I haven't seen that flick in *ages* [07:32] Good one. [07:32] MrHales: I use a straightrazor to shave, cos i'm just THAT hard. [07:32] you don't want to smoke while you do that, the copper in the blood messes up the taste of the cig [07:32] Yeah, I use a straight razor to shave... my balls. [07:32] eww [07:32] I know, right? [07:32] ball-stubble [07:32] worst form of 5:00 shadow ever [07:32] Most people will go ----------------------| this far. I take it ----------------------------------------------------------| over here. [07:33] bet it's like walking around with a brillo pad down the front of your trousers [07:33] I tried shaving once. Looked in the mirror, and I'm a pretty hairy guy. It was a certain kind of hilarious to have hair everywhere but there. [07:33] Never did it again. [07:33] Itching not worth it [07:34] I can believe it [07:34] Jerry Lee Lewis time. [07:34] eh? [07:34] Action: Urchlay tries to remember who that is [07:34] Great Balls o' Fire [07:34] haha [07:35] Action: MrHales bows. "Thank you. Thank you. I'm here 'til I'm not anymore." [07:35] I think I only ever heard that song on those commercials for "greatest hits of the 50s" albums [07:35] I can tell, cause I can't remember anything but one line of the song [07:35] holy moly great balls 'o fire! [07:35] :p [07:36] My father is of the opinion that they stopped making music sometime around 1968. I grew up listening to the 50's and 60's with a couple late 40's thrown in for good measure [07:36] tntslack (n=will@adsl30-101.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:36] oldschool ftw [07:36] i think they stopped making music in the 80s :P [07:36] synthpop ruined music. [07:36] goodness gracious, great balls [07:36] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:36] Tom Waits. [07:37] Action: MrHales nods sagely. [07:37] then again, in an ironic twist, Now Playing: Lady Sovreign - I Got You Dancing [07:37] :P [07:37] not entirely stopped making music... but it's getting more difficult to find [07:37] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:37] I like Britney Spears. I'll say it right out loud, too [07:37] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:37] Action: MrHales does, only his dog hears. [07:37] not a fan of britney [07:37] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [07:38] there was a time i liked nikki webster. xD [07:38] can't even remember who that is/was [07:38] Shuren (n=Devilman@host186-170-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "In silence we still talk..." [07:38] used to know a girl who looked *exactly* like Debbie Gibson [07:38] AND! I thought when she came back and everyone said she was fat that she finally looked healthy, better than ever [07:39] yeah, that whole starving-waif-model look doesn't do much for me [07:39] Used to have a coworker who could've been a celebrity stand-in for Christy Swanson [07:39] or is it Kristy [07:39] no clew [07:39] whatever, Buffy the Vampire Slayyer [07:39] -y [07:39] bono (i=bono@220-136-225-16.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [07:39] the movie, not the series [07:40] been so long since I saw the movie, can't remember who that was [07:40] With big Donald Sutherland, reason enough to see any fillm [07:40] -l [07:40] Action: MrHales murders his typist with papercuts. [07:40] Loved him in Backdraft. [07:40] Donald Sutherland... MASH (the movie, not the show), and what, the 80s remake of Body Snatchers? [07:40] Plays a great psycho [07:40] Yeah. [07:40] Dirty Dozen [07:40] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [07:40] kama (n=kama@host103-7-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:41] actually i think the 80s version is my favorite of all the body snatchers movies [07:41] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.27) joined ##slackware. [07:41] Shuren (n=Devilman@host186-170-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:41] I sorta liked the 90's one [07:41] kama (n=kama@host103-7-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:41] hm, it didn't suck or anything [07:41] because that girl on the Bruce Campbell vehicle... [07:41] sQuEE` (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [07:41] TNT series maybe... [07:42] Anwar [07:42] that damn bruce campbell car... was in all 3 spider man movies too, IIRC [07:42] Gabrielle Anwar naked before she got all bony with implants. [07:42] Burn Notice is the series she's on now [07:43] I just finished my install 12.2 +KDE and when I reboot I have a black screen whit like this: "L 99 99 99....." any idea what goes wrong? [07:43] Looks like she's sick or needs a friggin Monster Burger or something [07:43] rizitis, lilo error [07:43] second stage loading error to be precise afaik [07:44] MrHales: ever watch Firefly? [07:44] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LILO_(boot_loader)#Error_Codes [07:44] *sob* No. [07:44] <--- no TV [07:44] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [07:44] I watch movies. Don't have cable and don't own an antenna (not that it'd a lot of good, anymore) [07:44] slackytude: thanks! the only problem its that even when I boot from dvd I have the same message.. [07:45] Whats-her-name that plays Kaylee, now on that silly stargate atlantis show... she lost like 25lbs and looked better before [07:45] Thank goodness (and my buddy Stan) that I'm finally getting Net at home so I can reconnect with the world [07:45] rizitis, when you boot from dvd,too? O_o how did you install it then? [07:45] Not that TV is a good way to connect, of course [07:45] MrHales: Firefly is worthy of buying the boxed set [07:45] I've heard good things. [07:46] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-195000.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:46] If Weregeek says its good, it must be. [07:46] firefly is great [07:46] http://www.weregeek.com [07:46] nice name [07:46] slackytude: i mean that after that I try to boot from the dvd but also the same problem happens [07:46] I know one guy who hates it, but he can never explain why (other than "I hated buffy, therefore anything by Whedon must suck") [07:47] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:47] rizitis, but you could boot from dvd at some point? [07:47] yes [07:48] rizitis: are you *sure* your boot order is correct for the dvd? [07:48] Action: Old_Fogie says, woh, been long time since I set up 2.4 kernel , I am rusty [07:48] SpacePlod: Yes ! [07:48] Will your bios allow boot from stick and did you make the rescue stick? [07:49] the blacklist file in /etc/modprobe.d <--- 2.6 kernels only right? [07:49] not a 2.4 setup such as 11.0 [07:50] MrHales: yes my bios allow but I didnt meke the rescue from stick :( [07:50] hmm [07:50] Action: MrHales loves it when people call him "Mister". [07:50] heheeh [07:51] Restart, recheck the bios setup, boot order, all that.. [07:51] Measure twice, and all. [07:51] If boot order is correct, maybe swap for a different distro disc (if you have one) in case yours got somehow fragged (cosmic rays?) [07:52] If still no joy.... wow, dunno. [07:52] Got a second box, I assume. Get Puppy, DSL, or Knoppix System Rescue, make a stick and try that? [07:53] WrongDevice (n=WrongDev@unaffiliated/wrongdevice) joined ##slackware. [07:53] I'm spitballing, here, so you know. These are just the sort of things I would do in your sit. [07:53] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: "Saliendo" [07:54] MrHales: I have clean install no other distro inside , I put Lili at the /root I dont know if that is the problem , any way thanks a lot [07:54] *Lilo [07:54] I will fix it anyway :) [07:54] whatever you did, it should be able to boot from dvd, if it worked once [07:54] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [07:55] self-destructed DVD, or drive? [07:55] Action: Urchlay has the worst luck with DVDs [07:55] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.20.19) joined ##slackware. [07:56] had a DVD drive fail in such a way that it would grind grooves into any disc you inserted into it [07:56] Cosmic rays. [07:56] Urchlay: I burn an image dvd and put it to the drive [07:56] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:56] My car's cd player did that. [07:56] Car was... 2 years old, I think [07:56] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [07:56] the really shitty thing about that: while it was gouging the platter, it appeared to be reading/playing just fine for a while [07:57] so I trashed 3 or 4 discs trying to figure it out [07:57] cost of replacement: US$500+; cost of upgrade: US$250 go figure [07:57] <[cipher]> i'm having a problem in language support, i'm seeing ?????????? instead of words :( [07:57] cost of replacing one of those DVDs was like $30 (damn imports...) [07:57] <[cipher]> any idea? [07:58] <[cipher]> btw, i'm using 12.2 [07:58] foreign characters not installed I think [07:58] <[cipher]> aha, and [07:58] [cipher]: ???????. ??? ?? ??????, ??? ??? ?! [07:58] after 3-4 reboots finally the i can boot from dvd, is there anything to check now ? [07:58] <[cipher]> what's the appropriate pkg that should be installed? [07:59] WrongDevice (n=WrongDev@unaffiliated/wrongdevice) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:59] <[cipher]> Urchlay, yeah, instead of words :( [07:59] where? [07:59] <[cipher]> 12.2 [07:59] <[cipher]> in kwrite [07:59] you should mount your root partition, check /etc/lilo.conf, reinstall lilo [07:59] ah. [07:59] Did you install any of the stuff from the kdei series? [07:59] <[cipher]> but i can write with that language [08:00] or you can rerun setup from the dvd and reinstall lilo from there [08:00] <[cipher]> while i can't read the saved files [08:00] or you can go fetch a copy of Grub and try that if Lilo continues giving you fits [08:00] eh? So you type and the characters look fine, then you hit Save, exit kwrite, reload it, load the file, and it's all ?'s? [08:00] Any of that not clear, riz? [08:01] that, I cannot help thee with... [08:01] Cuz I'm happy to explain in something more closely resembling English. [08:01] sorry I can read fast English...give a minute... [08:01] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:01] <[cipher]> exactly Urchlay [08:02] <[cipher]> cuz i configured the keyboard's setting to write with that language [08:02] I have a habit in the real world of over-explaining and on IRC doing the opposite [08:02] <[cipher]> but the reading, :( [08:02] easier to flap my gums than type I guess [08:02] [cipher]: I have no idea... does it happen anywhere else? (other KDE apps, or other non-KDE apps even?) [08:02] MrHales: other way around for me. Talking is hard... [08:02] MrHales: i am the same way. dunno why. [08:02] <[cipher]> let me make sure of it Urchlay [08:03] kerber (i=daniel@unaffiliated/ethernet-/x-9843234) joined ##slackware. [08:03] <[cipher]> i can read them in openoffice's doc [08:03] <[cipher]> but not in kwrite [08:03] My wife always said I "talked down" to people that way, like I was having to lay everything out for them. I just wanted to ensure there was no confusion, you know? Too much information may be less dangerous than not nearly enough [08:03] <[cipher]> so sounds like the issue in kwrite [08:04] <[cipher]> k, brb [08:04] [cipher]: it does, yah. Narrows it down some at least... [08:04] <[cipher]> thanks Urchlay [08:04] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actt60.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [08:04] Maybe you're reading binary files cipher? [08:04] <[cipher]> no MrHales [08:04] <[cipher]> they are texts [08:05] Okay. [08:05] Action: MrHales picks his two pennies back up. [08:05] jack_ripper (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:05] heh. My favorite confusing error message in all of Linux... if you try to rm a binary that's loaded but swapped out, you get "Text file busy" [08:06] hello I want to install slackware 12.2 in my computer but I want to know if it is really necessary to have a swap dirve [08:06] (or maybe you don't anymore, been ages since I saw that message...) [08:06] I have 4 GB RAM [08:06] Depends on your workload [08:06] Also..with 4GB or more, I'd use Slamd64 [08:07] depends on what you want to happen, when/if you do fill all 4G of your RAM [08:07] straterra: just normal office work, learning how to use slackware and so on [08:07] what about fedora is it the same? [08:07] the same as what? [08:07] I am reading Linux for Dummies [08:07] as slackware [08:07] No.. [08:07] for the memory [08:08] eh [08:08] <[cipher]> jack_ripper, the normal rule said, swap=2* the actual RAM size [08:08] It has the same memory management model [08:08] You'd be better off reading the LDP... [08:08] <[cipher]> but that's mean 8 GB swap which is :| [08:08] do I also need a swap drive for fedora or is it the same as slackware [08:08] bleah. Who'd want to use a machine that was really using 8G of swap? [08:08] [cipher]: that doesnt apply any more [08:09] <[cipher]> yep, agree with you straterra [08:09] it'd take ages just to kill all the ram-hogging processes... [08:09] jack_ripper: you dont NEED one..but ugly things will happen when you use all of your memory [08:09] once you start having more than 512MB of phyical RAM, you can just have 1GB or so of swap and not worry baout it [08:09] <[cipher]> jack_ripper, you can share the same swap partition with another distros [08:09] ugly things will also happen when you use all your memory + all your swap, if you do have swap... [08:09] You don't really *need* swap space. And it is my understanding that you can use swap files to the same effect as needed. [08:10] Or am I mistaken there? [08:10] 4G of RAM, though? Was this a Vista machine? [08:10] hmmm, but is it really necessary, yes, vista [08:10] What does 4G have to do with Vista? [08:10] MrHales: you're right [08:10] jack_ripper: I'd go 64-bit if I were you [08:10] Thats the recommended minimum RAM for Vista [08:10] MrHales: err...no [08:10] 4G [08:11] no [08:11] That's what the dudes selling laptops (sales critters, admittedly) were saying [08:11] 3 okay, 4 better [08:11] 3 is wrong too [08:11] 512 for basic, 1gb for home premium/busines/ultimate [08:11] That minimum or recommended? [08:12] vista only uses 2.5 gb of RAM even if you have 4 GB it can't see it [08:12] Recommended [08:12] and OVER 9000 if you expect it to run smoothly xD [08:12] IBM made the same assesment [08:12] jack_ripper: Unless you run 64-bit... [08:12] right, which I don't [08:12] Which is why I'm saying use Slamd64 [08:12] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] PeanutHorst: Vista runs smoothly with a gig of ram here [08:13] straterra: how much have you disabled? ;) [08:14] Nothing. [08:14] Also, my gaming rig run Vista 64-bit with 2 gigs of ram..and runs fine [08:14] hmmm [08:15] straterra: I know somebody that will teach me slackware, but I just wanted to get a second opinion on this swap, if it was really a must to have it when you have 4 GB of RAM, I heard that it was something in the past when you only had 32MB of RAM [08:16] I used Vista and I only had to disable my morals to do so. [08:16] jack_ripper: You don't really have to use swap..and Slamd64 is pretty much Slackware for 64-bit [08:16] Wp92 (n=jojo@sd-5550.dedibox.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:16] MrHales: I didn't have to do anything with my morals. [08:16] http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/get/system-requirements.aspx [08:16] Having swap space is the safe choice. Throw a G at it. [08:17] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:17] MrHales: ++ [08:17] jack_ripper, you don't *need* swap with 4GB unless you'll be running some server app over a loooooong time (longer than looooongcat) [08:17] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) joined ##slackware. [08:17] Probably won't need it.... like an umbrella, have it when unneeded rather than need and not have [08:18] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) left irc: Client Quit [08:18] but if you're not space-constrained on your hard drive, you can put something like 4GB :) [08:18] hacked: ++? [08:18] ok, thanks a lot [08:19] MrHales: you've been incremented... [08:19] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) joined ##slackware. [08:19] Audio output as a system *requirement*? [08:19] MrHales: shorthand for agreement [08:20] Wp92 (n=jojo@sd-5550.dedibox.fr) left ##slackware. [08:20] Ah, it clarifies. [08:20] I see now. [08:20] it being my understanding [08:20] Yes, tired now. [08:21] I understood the incrementing, did not understand significance. [08:22] I want to get a box with no sound. Dunno how with all the integrated sound boards, but I want to find one and try to install Vista on a computer incapable of audio to see what happens. [08:22] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-76-46.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:22] Nothing [08:23] Nothing different anyway [08:23] G'Mornin'(or afternoon or evening),ladies & gentlemen [08:23] MrHales: disable onboard audio in the bios [08:23] that way it looks to windows like it doesn't exist [08:23] Yeah [08:23] ++ [08:24] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-31-222.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:26] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:26] Good `date +%r` [08:26] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [08:26] hiddenman (n=hiddenma@213.179.252.138) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [08:26] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:27] Whoa... that's a strange avalanche of thought: Good day, thats a nice catch all. What about "good morrow"? Good marrow? What, it's showing? Good Marro?! Quick tell Utgar there's been a revolt! ........ I remember sleep. [08:27] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:27] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:28] jack_ripper (n=jack_rip@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: [08:28] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [08:28] What's that,MrHales? [08:28] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:28] raela|alt (n=raela@205.133.81.89) joined ##slackware. [08:29] sQuEE (n=narya@host211.201-253-131.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [08:29] That thing I do when my face impacts the keyboard the third time [08:30] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) joined ##slackware. [08:30] lol [08:34] Okay. qt-mt is the bane of my existence. What? Why? Where? How? [08:34] Action: MrHales tantrums. "I want KDE 4.2! I WANT it!!!" [08:34] I need to give up, roll back to vanilla 12.2 and be patient. I know I need to. Have to. Unless there's a drop-in replacement for k3b that won't gripe about Qt..? [08:35] Anyone? [08:36] nooo [08:36] alienBOB got it working I think [08:37] by using some sort of in between library [08:37] Action: slackytude has no details [08:37] what,a conflict between QT3 and QT4? [08:38] no, I think there was a way of running k3b with kde4 with some magic lib [08:39] OK [08:40] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:41] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [08:42] Ether_Man (n=polx@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: [08:44] Why am I getting gripes about qt-mt (k3b isn't the only one, just the only one that comes to mind) at all? What, in installing the deps packages for KDE 4.2, has changed from vanilla? Is the Qt3 support bad? Are programs unable to find the correct files? I saw one message that seemed to indicate one of my major system libraries was threaded (glib, maybe?) necessitating Qt be similarly configured. I just built Qt, seeing no mention of such an option [08:45] Did you install the kde3-compat libs? [08:45] changed from vanilla to cause this behavior, should've been [08:45] Yep. [08:45] Everything, if I recall. [08:46] did you run the remove-kde3 script before installing kde4? [08:46] Deps, extragear, and the full-set (minus languages) [08:46] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [08:47] Did you also move .kde to .kde.bak in your ~/ directory? [08:47] before booting into kde4? [08:47] Yes... I think so. Very tired and having trouble remembering right now, but I think so. I followed the directions I found... somewhere.. [08:47] heh [08:48] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [08:48] thats it [08:48] kde3-compat [08:48] I actually, since I was starting fresh with a different partitioning scheme, I removed all dot files in my home [08:48] hrm [08:48] can you pastebin the actual error? [08:49] I think I'll rip kde + qt + all related out and start all over with the original (12.2) packages and then upgrade all over, see what happens. [08:50] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:50] but at the moment, my body is rapidly shutting down around me, so's I gotta go [08:50] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:51] Thanks all [08:51] Good luck [08:51] *poof!* [08:51] MrHales (n=user@12.166.25.119) left irc: "Leaving." [08:53] heh [08:53] upgrade.. [08:53] I thought he said he "removed kde3" [08:54] dunno [08:54] Sumthin 'long the lines of a conflict with qt-mt [08:54] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [08:54] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Changing server" [08:54] yeah.. I think he missed a step somewhere [08:55] prolly [08:57] <[cipher]> wow [08:57] <[cipher]> Salckware ROCKS! [08:57] <[cipher]> Slackware* [08:57] <[cipher]> ^^ [08:57] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "brb" [08:58] Happy on your discovery,cipher [08:59] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [09:03] [cipher]: that's like preaching to the choir.. we already know [09:03] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:03] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [09:03] [cipher]: yep [09:03] <[cipher]> mbhayes, ^^ [09:04] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [09:04] ? 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[10:44] hmm..been better ..but there's stil hope..how are you doing..? [10:45] Xires012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [10:45] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) joined ##slackware. [10:46] <[cipher]> i'm trying to figure out how to do joomla&LAMP in my slackware 12.2 [10:46] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:48] oh..well being a noob ..i'm afraid i cant really help.. [10:49] Xires012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:50] actually i could use some help about installing vlc on a 12.1.. [10:52] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@ccv59.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:52] ejal: visit slacky.eu and download packages from there [10:53] [cipher]: read some manual [10:53] <[cipher]> CtrlAltCa, there is a dozen of them :| [10:54] <[cipher]> don't know which one is the best [10:54] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vlc/pkg/12.1/ [10:55] ejal: ^^^ [10:55] tgz_ (n=tgz@genesis.quasared.net) left ##slackware. [10:56] hmm..ty..i've been to this site.. http://slackware.org.uk/3rd-party/alien/restricted_slackbuilds/vlc/ but i dont know wich packages i need.. [10:56] <[cipher]> *.tgz ejal [10:57] [cipher]: refer to a manual that talks explicitly about slackware [10:57] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:57] or you'll get some ubuntu crappy command syntax you can't do on slackware [10:57] <[cipher]> download it, then write as a root and the current path and then write pkgtool [10:57] ejal: and for Slackware 12.1 you did not care to look inside http://slackware.org.uk/3rd-party/alien/restricted_slackbuilds/vlc/pkg/12.1/ ? [10:57] <[cipher]> colored window will pops up [10:58] anyway.. that's not so hard, you can start looking at /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld and /etc/httpd/httpd.conf [10:58] <[cipher]> then follow the instinct [10:58] <[cipher]> thanks CtrlAltCa [10:58] <[cipher]> ^^ [10:58] Howdy. Anyone know if the old Serverworks HT1000 chipset supports SATA hotplug? I'm googling but so far coming up short. [10:59] Alan_Hicks: try hotplugging one of the disk and watch out for smoke [10:59] alienBOB: I would if I had the machine handy, but it's in another city. [10:59] <[cipher]> lol [10:59] <[cipher]> tickets Alan_Hicks :) [10:59] monstro (n=admin@201-92-49-93.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:00] bsdx (n=bsd@210.211.128.10) joined ##slackware. [11:00] Alan_Hicks: s/try/let someone overthere &/ [11:00] alienBOB: That's not an option either unfortunately. [11:00] Hi all, [11:00] I'm actually fairly sure it would work. I mean, the kernel's supported hard drive hotplugging for years now. [11:00] bijit (n=chatzill@216.25.163.115) joined ##slackware. [11:01] <[cipher]> hey monstro [11:01] And the device I want to use can cut the power to the drive on and off independently of removing cables. [11:01] Is possible install Xen in Slackware 12.2? Where i find a good tutorial? [11:01] SpyK01 (n=fafriyv@201-26-254-224.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:01] Hello. [11:01] Boing 737 crashed this morning at Schiphol national airport here (9 dead)... does not happen often in .nl [11:01] I've setup my postfix with virtual domains, with path /var/mail/vhosts. [11:01] But when I send an e-mail it drops to /var/mail. [11:01] How can I solve this? [11:01] alienBOB: I heard about that. [11:01] this my main.cf: [11:01] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [11:01] virtual_mailbox_domains = dominio.com [11:01] virtual_mailbox_base = /var/mail/vhosts [11:01] virtual_mailbox_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/vmailbox [11:01] virtual_minimum_uid = 100 [11:01] virtual_uid_maps = static:5000 [11:01] virtual_gid_maps = static:5000 [11:01] virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual [11:02] SpyK01: Use pastebin [11:02] monstro: you find out, and then write about it on http://slackwiki.org so that we all profit [11:02] <[cipher]> i smells like someone will got kicked [11:02] Action: agentc0reWORK agrees [11:02] Hmmm slackboy is de-opped [11:02] ##slackware: mode change '+o alienBOB' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [11:02] alienBOB: okay. [11:02] Alan_Hicks: how is it going with * [11:02] ##slackware: mode change '+o slackboy' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [11:02] ok.... [11:03] ##slackware: mode change '-o alienBOB' by alienBOB!n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB [11:03] SpyK01: Please pastebin your output instead of spamming the channel. [11:03] [agentc0reWORK]: do you have some ideia? [11:03] Next time you _will_ get kicked SpyK01 [11:03] in your /etc/postfix directory do you have a virtual.db file? [11:03] <[cipher]> SpyK01, http://rafb.net/paste/ would be nice choice [11:04] <[cipher]> unless if you want try the golf's stick :) [11:04] SpyK01: you do realize that postfix is not part of Slackware and that other channels may offer more help? [11:04] yes... I always use postmap after did some exchange. [11:04] Xires012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:04] bijit: Stable, but still got some weird echo issue. I think it's a problem with the phones though, not *. [11:04] hm... okay [11:04] what you using as echo canc? [11:05] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.167) joined ##slackware. [11:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:05] SpyK01: is /var/mail/vhost writable by postfix or whichever user it's running under? [11:05] im stil puzzeld..sorry..i guess i need the build wich has many packages in it..do i need them all?//and then ..what..? [11:06] [agentc0reWORK]: yes, sure. I've already given permissions to user that has uid and gid 5000 [11:06] I've followed postfix documentation. [11:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:09] SpyK01: Well not sure then. I've only setup virtual mailbox's once and i just recently blew that box away. I honestly don't remember how i had mine configured. #postfix would probably be a better place to ask your question. [11:09] What file has a list of common TCP/UDP port names? [11:09] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [11:09] ccfreak2k: wikipiedia. [11:09] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "#E>6C" [11:09] [agentc0reWORK]: thanx [11:09] Sure, but IIRC there's also one in Slackware somewhere. [11:10] ccfreak2k: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers [11:10] /etc/services [11:10] Yes, that's it. 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[11:18] bijit: running asterisk by itself as a normal user won't work.. /usr/sbin is not in a normal user's $PATH [11:19] so I must create a ln -s [11:19] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:19] mbhayes: thank you very much [11:20] no problem [11:20] I wouldn't do an ln -s [11:20] just get used to doing "/usr/sbin/asterisk" [11:20] hehe [11:20] where do i have to put command "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda" in cron [11:21] uhh what? [11:21] ok thank you for the tip [11:21] mbhayes: i want ti wipe of the hdd [11:22] so do it.. why use cron? [11:22] because i cant do it while im on machine [11:22] use a slackware boot disk.. do it that way [11:22] i know, [11:22] Just sounds weird you want to cron it [11:22] Action: mbhayes shrugs [11:23] man crontab [11:23] that's about all I'll help with on that one... sorry just sounds like you're being destructive.. malicious.. not going to help with that ;) [11:24] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:24] Xires012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:24] mbhayes, when the company i work for, doesnt want to do a thing about their servers, i get all the on my back. simplest way to do that is with cron. and servers are falling apart.. do u got me? :) [11:25] man crontab [11:25] after that, i need to reinstall them [11:25] thats the only way [11:26] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:26] pupit: you are asking to simply get fired. [11:27] NetrixTardis: no [11:28] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [11:28] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:28] i'm not going to waste time trying to argue with you. but being destructive is completely counter productive. [11:30] company doesnt care about servers, and they wont pay anything to do some maintenance if someone can always run to see why the servers hang.. and thats me. simplest way is to reinstall them. [11:30] and if you have to ask where in cron you should put that command, that tells me you are definitely not the right person for the job. [11:31] NetrixTardis: u maybe right, but u are not in my skin [11:35] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) joined ##slackware. [11:37] monstro (n=admin@201-92-49-93.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [11:38] Action: pupit they dont want to hire admin for job, im just a toilet cleaner. [11:38] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [11:40] agentc0reWORK (n=chatzill@heartslc.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]" [11:41] Ether_Man (n=polx@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: [11:42] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [11:43] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:43] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:44] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.241.162) joined ##slackware. [11:44] well..the movie is playing..thank you all very much and espasially to you alienBOB.. [11:45] hi all, i need a little help with web camera [11:46] plipp (n=cam@m83-188-205-114.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:48] Ro8inB (n=Robinb@c83-248-0-238.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [11:48] hi [11:48] can you open rar files in slackware? [11:49] Not by default, but rarlab.com has a download for Linux available. [11:51] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [11:51] Ro8inB: better yet, a slackbuild. http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/unrar/ [11:51] ok. thank you [11:51] np [11:52] unrar or 7zip. [11:52] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [11:52] I'm pretty sure Ark uses unrar to open RARs. [11:52] It does. [11:52] btw i am using rarlinux archive [11:53] Same thing :) [11:53] will not rar unrar ? [11:53] rar -x ? [11:53] Yes, rar x [11:53] No - [11:54] ok [11:54] withe rarlinux you no need command line for unrar o rar archives... [11:54] with* [11:55] If you have the command line apps installed, archivers like Ark will automatically use it. [11:55] oh. I do all my raring unraring at cli even with a gui. sorry [11:56] As do I, takes too long to fire up Ark or some other GUI archiver :) [11:56] or to install gui on your file server [11:56] Yep, though you could use some ncurses-based app. [11:57] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@adsl196-51-68-206-196.adsl196-3.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [11:58] hi [11:58] <[cipher]> hey ahmed-tux [11:59] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [11:59] bijit (n=chatzill@216.25.163.115) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [11:59] [cipher]: please stop pinging me [12:00] [cipher]: ask me and i'll aswer you about all what you want [12:00] <[cipher]> easy man [12:00] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:00] <[cipher]> you said hi, and i answered hey [12:00] <[cipher]> end of story [12:00] Xires_012 (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Success [12:01] [cipher]: and " Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to ahmed-tux) from [cipher]" [12:01] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-195000.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:01] <[cipher]> that's not a ping [12:01] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:01] pfff [12:01] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-195000.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:02] ? [12:02] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [12:03] how do you install a .package file? [12:04] <[cipher]> Ro8inB, is it .tgz file? [12:04] <[cipher]> or tar balls? [12:04] no it says .package [12:04] <[cipher]> .package? [12:04] yes. [12:04] <[cipher]> it looks like a binary file for ma [12:04] <[cipher]> me* [12:05] Ro8inB: http://slackbuilds.org/ [12:05] <[cipher]> did you try chmod +x name.package [12:05] <[cipher]> then ./package [12:05] <[cipher]> as a root [12:05] <[cipher]> ? [12:05] nope i'll try that [12:05] <[cipher]> su to root [12:05] <[cipher]> chmod u+x name.package [12:06] <[cipher]> btw name=ur actual package name [12:06] <[cipher]> then ./name.package [12:06] alisonken1 (n=alisonke@38.99.247.89) joined ##slackware. [12:07] ok [12:07] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:07] mogrify is the best command-line tool EVAR! [12:07] Had to be said [12:08] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.218.27) joined ##slackware. [12:09] It's not so good for anything besides graphics conversion, though :D [12:09] Ro8inB: try to read the how to befor install package [12:10] It is a subjective classification, i'll admit [12:10] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-175-126-ull.customer.panservice.it) joined ##slackware. [12:11] I have a ps2 keyboard connected to a laptop via a ps2-to-usb adaptor. The issue is it lights up and then nothing with no activity. Any recommendations ? lspci has no changes [12:12] lspci/lsusb [12:14] Exactly what kind of adapter is this? Because if it doesn't include any electronics, it's only meant to work with a device that already supports USB and it won't work with a plain PS/2 device. [12:15] EuroTrash: www.genovation.com/images/ps2tousb.jpg [12:16] That doesn't seem to be large enough to fit a controller :D [12:18] any ideas then ? can you point me to sth similar that might do the work ? [12:18] Something like this would: http://cgi.ebay.com/2PCS-USB-to-DUAL-PS2-KEYBOARD-MOUSE-ADAPTER-PC-LAPTOP_W0QQitemZ330303431562QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Cables_Adapters?hash=item330303431562&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1309%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 [12:18] Wow that's an ugly ass link. [12:19] Sorry :) [12:19] <[cipher]> lol [12:19] Lovely URL encoding. [12:19] Beware it's the top link, there might be cheaper ones or even ones that aren't in Hongkong :) [12:21] i have some ps2tousb adapters that only work on certain usb ports, regardless of the operating system [12:21] mogunus (i=1000@umass-943-174.wireless.umass.edu) joined ##slackware. [12:22] Hi. How do I force dhcpcd to request a new IP address? [12:22] dhcpcd -n? [12:23] or does that request the same IP address as is currently active in the cache? [12:23] I'm trying to puzzle out the man page [12:23] EuroTrash: i ll check this. thanks [12:24] The dhcp server controls the lease, so it'll be up to the server to renew it. But -n does cause dhcpcd to ask for a new lease. [12:24] antonioschiavo (n=antonios@200.210.129.2) joined ##slackware. [12:24] So if I switch to a new network, it will force a new IP address? [12:24] btw is ps2 hot-plugable ? even if ps2/usb changes the connection the interface is the same ? (just an assumption) [12:24] Basically [12:24] galera alguem sabe uma maneira de pegar o tamanho do disco/particao sem ser output de algum comando? [12:24] aperturefever: depends on the chipset [12:24] aperturefever: ps/2 is normally not hot-pluggable. [12:25] tipo eu posso pegar de pro/partitions mais ai tenho que sabr o taamnho do bloco do device [12:25] I've had trouble lately with killing dhcpcd, moving to a new network, and then running it again, and it tries to assign itself the LAST IP, not a new one correctly formed for the new network. [12:25] proc/partitions* [12:25] i left xmms on pause last night and now my audio is locked up [12:25] mogunus: that's strange... even if it requests the same lease, the server will tell it to buzz off and take the new lease. [12:26] pi31415: press pause again [12:26] it did not help [12:26] :P [12:26] neither did restarting xmms [12:26] kill xmms [12:26] killing xmms also did not help [12:26] Or get rid of it, heh. [12:26] ps aux | grep xmms [12:26] EuroTrash, actually, the only network that has this problem is my home wifi: I kill dhcpcd, restart it at home while connected to the wireless, and it gives itself it's very last IP (now that I think about it) [12:26] xmms pause button sucks [12:26] straterra: that returns nothing but the grep process [12:27] lsof /dev/dsp [12:27] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [12:27] i could crash xmms by clicking on it too many times [12:27] straterra: that also returns nothing [12:27] then define "audio is locked up" [12:27] This raises any number of unfortunate issues. the DHCP server is on my comcast-supplied, mandatory-use router/modem. which is an awful little piece of technology that is almost impossible to configure. [12:27] mogunus: what's the very last IP in this context? An IP that's not even available on your home network? [12:27] EuroTrash, yep. [12:28] straterra: I press the play button, and there is silence. also, xmms just sits there instead of advancing the time. [12:28] try a different player [12:28] dhcpcd shouldn't do that, unless your dhcp server tries to copy the lease which would be very strange. [12:28] it could be it can't access the files [12:28] i checked, /dev/dsp is world readwrite [12:28] I mean the music files [12:28] EuroTrash, I know, that's why it has me spooked :-\ [12:29] sounds play from the kde control center under system notifications [12:29] well. Next time I'm home I guess I'll pass it the debug flag and pick through whatever it belches out. beh. [12:29] hrm, that seemed to unstick xmms [12:30] i suspect it is the xmms arts driver [12:30] bsdx (n=bsd@210.211.128.10) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:30] Maybe let alsa's dmix handle it instead of arts. [12:32] Thanks for the suggestion, I will try that [12:33] Nick change: antonioschiavo -> lucasagomes [12:34] Ro8inB (n=Robinb@c83-248-0-238.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:34] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.218.27) left irc: ":wq" [12:36] Buggaboo (n=bug@ipd50a4203.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:39] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [12:41] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:41] evening :-) [12:43] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.77.255) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:45] MakubeX (i=horas@212.71.19.109) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:46] rj45 (n=arpdz@201.19.135.241) joined ##slackware. [12:47] rj45 (n=arpdz@201.19.135.241) left ##slackware. 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[13:06] Action: agentc0re|work is now using irssi in windows [13:06] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:09] nix_chix0r, you wake up too early [13:09] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:09] Nick change: Strykar_ -> Strykar [13:09] as do you edman007 [13:09] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:09] panzer, hey, you were already awake [13:09] was I? [13:10] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] i just rolled out of bed 1 minute ago... [13:10] am I really here or is this my icebox talking to you? [13:10] you are really here, and its sad [13:10] why is it sad? [13:11] should be sleeping [13:11] its only 1pm [13:12] not yet 1300 [13:12] only 1200 here [13:12] should be eating [13:12] Wed Feb 25 13:09:56 EST 2009 [13:12] time for lunch [13:13] Action: edman007 needs food too [13:14] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:15] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:16] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.241.162) left irc: SendQ exceeded [13:18] what er you guys talking about?!?... its time for CHEEZBURGARZ!!! :P [13:20] Action: macavity does the ihazcheeseburger dance (wearhing nothing but a thong) [13:22] thong? [13:22] Action: dive pukes [13:22] lima (n=lima@adsl-99-182-83-183.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:22] what does the name slackware mean? [13:23] Zygocactus: the "slack" term is an ancient joke [13:23] Zygocactus: look up "church of the subgenius" on wikipedia (and have a great laugh) [13:23] cheese: error while loading shared libraries: libebook-1.2.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [13:24] Zygocactus: but for short slackware means "software that will give you some slack" [13:24] does anyone know which package I should download to get this working? [13:24] ebook? [13:24] libebook.. sounds like something from gnome/evolution. [13:25] Action: lima is lost [13:25] Action: macavity is found [13:25] hum,,, this ok. [13:25] for i haz seen the comming of the light that is Gallium3D! [13:25] rizitis (n=rizitis@athedsl-4558595.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:26] macavity, download package ebook? [13:26] i dont know [13:26] it was just a wild shot in the dark [13:27] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:27] Action: macavity wanders off to get more cheezburgars! [13:27] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [13:27] tntslack (n=will@adsl30-101.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:27] that sucks [13:28] I have no idea how to get 'cheese' working. I bet its missing a lot of libs [13:28] I always make sure to keep pleanty of cheese in the fridge [13:28] its missing a ton of dependencies [13:29] :( [13:29] maybe I should just install gnome [13:29] lima (n=lima@adsl-99-182-83-183.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:30] lima: well fist you get milk .. then you split it in two packages, called "curds" and "whey" and you go from there. [13:31] hello [13:31] someone knows the reason for this? http://pastebin.com/m25247ded [13:32] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:33] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [13:36] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-175-126-ull.customer.panservice.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:36] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:36] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [13:37] gabriel_, yea, its there because you copied stuff to pastebin [13:38] is a cpu-scaling bug [13:39] othermindszine (n=othermin@188.sub-70-192-247.myvzw.com) left irc: "Where ever you may be, be well. Namarië." [13:39] lando (n=lando@c-66-176-131-206.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[13:47] not for me it's not [13:47] i have D620 [13:48] i have dell inspiron 1318 [13:49] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:49] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [13:50] ejal (n=ejal@93-173-106-65.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: "Leaving" [13:50] gabriel_, so then you answered your own question... [13:51] yep [13:53] TiberiusXXI (n=Tiberius@41-208-48-164.mtn.co.za) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:53] mm [13:54] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:54] rmod and modprobe acpi_cpufreq, the info is there again... [13:54] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-175-126-ull.customer.panservice.it) joined ##slackware. [13:55] MegafEee (n=WMaker@unaffiliated/megaf) joined ##slackware. [13:56] so what is the problem? [13:56] upgrade your kernel if it such a big issue [13:57] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:57] this is the problem, i don't know if this cause problems in the CPU1 [13:58] ... [13:58] then upgrade your kernel [13:58] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [13:59] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:59] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:01] edman007: lunch was good [14:01] AlexElliott (n=alex@sns6-212.york.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:01] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:02] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [14:04] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [14:05] tribeca (n=naitso@host222-9-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:09] rizitis (n=rizitis@athedsl-4558595.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "ta leme" [14:10] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "Leaving" [14:11] lando (n=lando@c-66-176-131-206.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [14:17] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@ccv59.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:18] GArik (n=wesnoth@mpd-955.tvcom.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:18] hi [14:21] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: No route to host [14:21] panzer, ehh...only ok here :( [14:22] and is it still lunch if its the first meal of the day? [14:23] well I combine lunch and breakfast. depends on the minute. Egg sandwich with hamburger patties. or Hamburger with egg [14:24] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [14:25] Action: edman007 had pizza and chicken cordon blue [14:25] so is that lunch food? [14:26] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [14:26] f3ck4r (i=f3ck4r@189.81.224.80) joined ##slackware. [14:28] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:29] Xaviertoor (n=xavierto@189-015-121-206.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. 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[14:45] BP{k}: that is why i have switched to a compressed transaction protocol with them... however i seems to be something of a wakeup call to most of them :P [14:46] edman007: nice! working people who are actually on their toes :P [14:46] ... that *has* to be invented in china.. oh wait [14:46] evo_ (n=evo@p4FD4D90E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] jean-1uc (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left ##slackware. [14:49] gore (n=jnthornh@cpe-098-122-165-194.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:53] josemanuel (n=josemanu@157.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [14:54] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:55] gore (n=jnthornh@cpe-098-122-165-194.nc.res.rr.com) left ##slackware. 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[15:09] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.68) left irc: "BitchX: it makes bathtime lots of fun!" [15:11] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-146-7.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [15:15] Joetheodd (n=William@72.170.176.9) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:15] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-113-65.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [15:17] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [15:18] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [15:18] josemanuel (n=josemanu@157.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [15:20] []cipher (n=cipher@41.252.27.8) joined ##slackware. [15:20] be (n=chattr@062016133143.customer.alfanett.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:21] is there a way to boot into a luks system with the slackware install dvd? [15:21] anyone here that has any experience with the app rejoystick? [15:24] pprkut: I think there is ... [15:25] pprkut: perhaps something like "hugesmp.s root=/dev/mapper/cryptroot rdinit=ro" ? [15:25] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:26] BP{k}: maybe... I should be able to store the password in /etc/crypttab, which avoids the prompt for it. [15:27] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.6.67) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:28] this is the first time I'm having troubles with lilo :/ [15:28] pprkut: you sure? cause that sounds like "storing the combination to a safe inside the safe" so to access the code in the safe you need to open the safe with the code inside the safe :) [15:29] :( [15:29] true [15:29] pprkut: you will have to do some manual actions - boot to the DVD's command prompt, then run cryptsetup to unlock the LUKS partition, then mount that partition and chroot into it [15:30] alienBOB: I've been that far, but with lilo not working I'm not really sure what to do.... [15:30] guess I will try to setup grub somehow [15:31] LILO says what, pprkut? [15:31] alienBOB: nothing, it's not even loaded [15:31] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [15:31] installed in MBR [15:31] What happens if you boot the machine [15:31] pprkut: you _did_ install kernel & initrd onto an unencrypted partition did you? [15:32] alienBOB: something along the lines of "corrupt or no system disk available" [15:32] yes [15:32] And lilo installed (or seemed to install) properly? [15:32] yes [15:32] I think this is because the laptop has an efi instead of a bios [15:33] With a lilo in the mbr, you should see _something_ even with a b0rked LUKS partition setup [15:33] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) left irc: [15:33] Yes, EFI is unforgiving [15:33] you have experience with it already? [15:35] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [15:36] from what I found on the web, grub doesn't support efi either, which means I have to somehow get elilo or grub2 on it [15:37] pprkut, with EFI you don't actually need a bootloader... [15:37] elilo and such exist to select the default OS and such [15:37] alienBOB, would you build xine-1.1.16.2? It solves a lot of problems with amarok-2.x [15:37] but the EFI specs that the firmware on the mobo actually searches all partitions for kernels to boot and display/boot them [15:38] GArik: I do not call the shots in Slackware. Ask Pat for a newer xine [15:39] alienBOB, how? [15:39] by e-mail? [15:39] avian-carrier? ;) [15:40] GArik: be creative [15:40] GArik: besides if you need it *that* bad, you can always build it yourself. [15:41] BP{k}, already build =) [15:41] GArik: what do you gain with that newer xine version? [15:41] i want slackware to be good =) [15:41] Uhh Slackware is good. [15:41] +1 [15:41] having the "latest and greatest" of an application does not make it better [15:42] GArik: and the question I have is: how do you know that xine 1.1.16.2 solves a lot of problems with amarok2? [15:42] alienBOB, fade effect and pause works as it should [15:42] mbhayes, i've checked this out [15:42] Did you install it yourself? [15:42] Did you test it? [15:43] or did you read some website where some user that dosen't use slackware said it fixed a bunch of issues? [15:43] There you have your rationale for upgrading xine. Mail your findings to volkerdi [15:43] mbhayes, yes, yes [15:43] Action: jkwood just uses gstreamer [15:43] jkwood does not even run Slackware [15:43] mbhayes, it's a known issues [15:43] I do on the Averalappy. ;) [15:43] Action: alienBOB has to google Avera... [15:44] Averatec 3270. [15:45] Action: edman007 googles alienBOB [15:45] alienBOB: I get "Non-System disk or disk error \n replace and strike any key when ready" [15:47] edman007: I turned on full UEFI Boot mode in efi, but the error remains the same [15:48] pprkut, what computer is this? how are you trying to boot it? [15:48] is it a Mac? [15:48] no [15:48] it is a HP [15:48] and I boot it by...pressing on the start button? [15:48] did you install the ext3 EFI driver? [15:48] alienBOB, i asked because it's almost time for kde-4.2.1 =) [15:48] Action: Camarade_Tux was starting to think efi would never reach the home pc [15:48] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-133-231.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [15:48] or whatever your kernel is on? [15:49] and did you put the kernel in /efi/ ? [15:49] edman007: ....I guess this is more complex than I thought. Will have to do some research....no i didn't [15:49] pprkut, there are two ways you can boot, EFI or BIOS emulatio [15:49] n [15:49] ok, I think I tried both [15:50] BIOS emulation requires that your EFI firmware supports it, and then you install LILO into linux and tell your EFI system to boot to LILO through BIOS emulation [15:51] GArik: I know. KDE techbase was virtually inacessible today. I hope to see 4.2.1 tarballs soon (4.2.1 repository taggging was supposed to happen today) [15:51] if you boot straight from EFI you need to install EFI filesystem drivers by putting them in your EFI partition, then it should search /efi/ on every partition and list the kernels to boot [15:51] nessundorma (n=mike@host155-57-dynamic.104-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:51] elilo can help that process along by handling a lot of the driver issues [15:52] what is refit btw ? [15:52] josemanuel (n=josemanu@157.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:52] Camarade_Tux, its an efi app that can be used to get to the efi shell and boot EFI OSes and ones that use a BIOS [15:52] othermindszine (n=othermin@105.sub-70-192-184.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [15:52] tntslack (n=will@adsl30-101.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:53] but i think that one is really more of a mac app [15:53] tntslack (n=will@adsl30-101.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:54] tntslack (n=will@adsl30-101.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:55] right, it seems aimed at macs but the sources are available, don't know if it's worth trying though [15:55] edman007: you have by any chance some resources on it? I'm currently a little bit lost :/ [15:56] uhh, i'll actually try doing a slack install probably later tonight on EFI and see how it works... [15:56] alienBOB: techbase.kde.org loads plenty fast here (im just a few hundred clicks north of it) [15:56] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.195) left irc: "Leaving." [15:56] lucasagomes (n=antonios@200.210.129.2) left irc: "Leaving" [15:56] will you be on in 7 hours or so? [15:57] that's quite a commitment [15:57] i need some time to think about it [15:58] ;) [15:58] macavity, not loading fast here... [15:58] edman007: no, but in 10-11 hours or so [15:58] searches are snappy too.. i think the problem lies elsewhere [15:58] ok...i might still be on :P [15:59] yup... searching for "kpart" returned 500 results so fast i had to look twice to see if i actually pressed the search button [15:59] actually, seems normal here, not fast, not really slow either [15:59] Action: edman007 tested with "KDE sucks" [16:00] lol.. that actually returns matches :P [16:00] mac- (i=mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:00] edman007: uuuh, progress, I found "boot from efi file" [16:01] hi there [16:01] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [16:03] Nick change: r00t_ -> DeeeeP [16:04] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:04] fedfdfdfdf [16:05] oops :) dang ssh lag. [16:05] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [16:05] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [16:06] Wojo (i=wojo@chello087206253139.chello.pl) left irc: Connection timed out [16:06] BP{k}, thats your pass? lol [16:06] Action: edman007 roots BP{k} [16:06] edman007: of course it isn't. [16:06] nice pwd [16:07] Action: nix_chix0r hacks [16:07] nix_chix0r, u a girl ? [16:07] Action: BP{k} yawns. [16:07] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: "êîãäà ÿ óìåð íåáûëî íèêîãî, êòî áû ýòî îïðîâåðã" [16:07] nix_chix0r, you are awake! [16:07] anyone can help with routing table ? [16:07] edman007, i've been awake since 4am:| [16:07] mac-, still with the same problem [16:07] DeeeeP, watch out, she is going to blow up, keep your distance [16:07] nix_chix0r, thats when i went to bed... [16:07] DeeeeP: yeah :/ [16:07] haha [16:07] so , its a she [16:08] i am gona blow [16:08] mac-, i've told you few days ago what u need to do [16:08] u didnt listen [16:08] edman007, we're thinkin next week [16:08] but are You sure that i can`t do that with routing table ? [16:08] nix_chix0r, you are that close already? [16:08] i'm not , but he wants to [16:09] he wont listen [16:09] give him a wii [16:09] Action: edman007 tries to write a paper [16:10] mac-, yeah , u need to forward packets [16:10] route wont do that [16:10] Action: Camarade_Tux tries to find a paper to read [16:10] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-195000.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:10] Action: edman007 throws the ny times at Camarade_Tux [16:11] i got a whole stack em em over here... [16:11] Nick change: []cipher -> [cipher] [16:11] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:11] I'd prefer something about Hilbert R-Trees :D [16:11] this one is made out of trees, so its should be ok [16:12] i like a topologic R-tree for cluster training, xD [16:13] I'll make an ocaml library :D [16:13] edman007, but does it rely on fractals too ? [16:13] Wojo (i=wojo@chello087206253139.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:13] but i need to learn 1st the Jordan curves for regression fitting of statistical data [16:14] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] Camarade_Tux, depends on what you are on [16:15] edman007: my boot partition is ext3. I read on the net that efi does support fat32 and ext2 natively. You said something about a ext3 driver? [16:15] pprkut, yea [16:15] edman007, Hilbert curve is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hilbert_curve_1.svg [16:15] I wanted to use something like http://www.xkcd.com/543/ but afaict it won't work =/ [16:16] edman007: I couldn't find one. refit only includes ext2 and reiserfs. you have a link by any chance? [16:16] pprkut, ext2 will work with ext3 [16:16] edman007: so it *should* find my boot partition? [16:16] it just does not do journaling, but its ok if its read only [16:18] yea, i think... [16:19] maybe because I have no /boot/efi? [16:20] possibly.... [16:21] i'm going to try making it work tonight, i'll help you then :) [16:21] but i got class in an hour and i got to write a paper right now :( [16:22] edman007: thanks very much, go write your paper :P [16:24] b00jit (n=boojit@gw.carter.to) joined ##slackware. [16:25] lioil (n=paigerov@r5bu30.net.upc.cz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:29] rizitis (n=rizitis@athedsl-4556559.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:31] hmm, who has experience with bridging wlan with eth ? [16:32] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:32] initself (n=initself@wsip-68-15-84-25.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:33] erizoe (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:35] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [16:35] i could really use some help getting rejoystick to work, if anyone can spare a few minutes :) [16:36] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@ccv59.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:36] boojit (n=boojit@gw.carter.to) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:36] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:38] Nick change: b00jit -> boojit [16:38] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-175-126-ull.customer.panservice.it) left irc: Client Quit [16:39] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.195) joined ##slackware. [16:40] mac-, just tell me something ... why not try the easy way ? [16:40] U-Neeks (n=666@200-96-137-197.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [16:41] mac-, all packets from internal network only goes out trought ip masquerading ... its useless to try and bridge the 2 interfaces [16:41] yes [16:41] but i have problems to bridge wlan interface [16:41] after bridge it wlan die [16:42] u have a server with wlan for internet , and eth0 connected to some pc , right ? [16:42] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:42] mac-, ? [16:42] right [16:43] why u need to bridge eth0 with wlan0 [16:43] explain [16:43] to configyure it as one interface with one IP [16:43] eh [16:43] why dont you use nat? [16:44] i thought that routing table will be simple and enough to make communication between them [16:45] Dadsy (n=Dad`@93.4.79.102) joined ##slackware. [16:46] margiolas (i=chris@client-9-54.wifi.uoc.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:46] hello how i can install new software on slack i'm debian user [16:47] installpkg or use swaret [16:47] margiolas http://slackbook.ilug.gr/ [16:48] mac-, they comunicate each other [16:48] dont need to make bridge or something [16:49] mac-: we don't recommend swaret here [16:50] slackpkg or the standalone pkgtools, period :P [16:50] margiolas: really, start of with the "basic system management" section in slackbook.org [16:52] straterra: i also do not like it, but it is and he asked about all possibilities :> [16:52] mac-: according to the channel guidelines, 3rd party package managers are specifically off topic :P [16:53] so you get responses much like "the nights who say NI" :P [16:53] *knights [16:53] :) [16:54] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.80.96) joined ##slackware. [16:58] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: SendQ exceeded [16:58] superted79 (n=xr893j61@78.150.179.79) joined ##slackware. [16:58] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [16:59] superted79 (n=xr893j61@78.150.179.79) left ##slackware. [16:59] lowkyalur (n=low@icm7-orange.orange.sk) left irc: "keiner da." [16:59] slapt-get, swaret, etc -> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/funny-pictures-cat-denies-access-to-your-computer.jpg [16:59] mmmkay? :P [16:59] lowkyalur (n=low@icm7-orange.orange.sk) joined ##slackware. [16:59] macavity: please, no Lumberg impersonations :) [17:00] Yeeeaaah... [17:00] We're going to need you to.. *sip* not comment on the impersonations.. [17:00] Thanks a lot Pete [17:00] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [17:00] othermindszine (n=othermin@105.sub-70-192-184.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:00] hello, can I connect my wireless card from a terminal ? [17:00] just no TPS forms [17:01] Anakin: yes. [17:01] I installed the driver and my card is recognized [17:01] straterra: how ? [17:01] With google [17:02] Anakin, use iwconfig to dick around with wireless parameters and ifconfig for the Ethernet part. [17:03] Anakin: and if you plan to use WPA or WPA2 you also need to get familiar with wpa_supplicant and wpa_supplicant.conf [17:03] Anakin: ifconfig, iwconfig, iwlist, wpa_supplicant and wpa_supplicant.conf all have very good manpages [17:03] ok, I'll try thos 10x [17:04] Kinda the exception to the rule with GNU manpages there. [17:04] Anakin: PM? [17:04] macavity: yes [17:05] ccfreak2k: i dont think wireless-tools and wpa_supplicant are GNU products [17:05] Well that explains it then. [17:07] DeeeeP, your linux chix have no sense of humor [17:08] and who is that ? [17:08] u might be confusing her [17:08] :D [17:08] just making a generalised statement [17:08] oh [17:09] nix_chix0r, its not mine [17:09] lol [17:09] margiolas (i=chris@client-9-54.wifi.uoc.gr) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [17:09] i'll stick around in there [17:09] ok :) [17:09] humor might go up then [17:09] i made a comment like i cant wait to poop this baby out [17:10] and one wants to coach me on anatomy [17:10] who's that ? [17:10] hahaha [17:10] nick ? [17:10] b1u3 (n=eck0@c-24-127-242-74.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:10] nix_chix0r: I don't know where else I heard someone refer to pooping out babies (Simpsons perhaps?) but I do think it is hilarious. [17:11] valorie [17:11] not my friend [17:11] eviljames, it sure feels like it [17:11] I'd imagine that it doesn't feel good at all. Fortunately for me, that's as close as I'll ever et. [17:11] by et I mean eat [17:11] No, get... [17:12] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@ns.detir.qld.gov.au) joined ##slackware. [17:12] mac-, now working ? [17:13] yeah, but only with iptables config [17:13] :/ [17:13] right , that's it [17:15] othermindszine (n=othermin@210.sub-70-192-68.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. 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[17:24] b1u3: shoot :P [17:24] when implementing a fire wall in Slackware I need to make the rc.firewall file then put my iptables rules in there coorect [17:24] yes [17:24] dont forget to make it +x [17:25] that was kind of going with out saying [17:25] ty [17:27] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@ns.detir.qld.gov.au) left irc: "Leaving" [17:28] garme (n=garme@189.17.54.86) left irc: "Leaving" [17:29] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] Russia Sinks Chinese Cargo Ship, Claims Bound For US With Nuclear Warhead [17:33] world war 3 = armegiddon is just around the corner [17:33] ryht (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:34] Pig_Pen: whut? [17:35] Anakin (n=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [17:35] http://rescueliberty.com/?p=327 flash video and text [17:36] i googled for it too just to see if other news networks are carrieing it, seems to be legit [17:38] Nick change: Dadsy -> Dad` [17:39] Pig_Pen: what does that have to do with slackware? [17:40] lol : "desperate in their attempts to stage a 9/11 type false flag operation in order to complete the subjugation of their citizens prior to the expected outbreak of massive social unrest they state will be occurring during the coming summer months as their economy continues to implode.", at least something doesn't seem legit ;) [17:40] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [17:41] yup.Camarade_Tux, the world is in a handbasket and headed somewhere hot [17:42] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:42] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] I don't know how it feel to a native speaker but that sounds sooooo like a conspiracy theory to me [17:43] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:44] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:45] nessundorma (n=mike@host155-57-dynamic.104-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Leaving" [17:45] moonhead (n=trip@ip-129-15-127-253.fennfwsm.ou.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:46] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:47] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Client Quit [17:47] oh well, i lived a long life, i hope i die before my wife and kids, i dont want to see them suffer [17:47] how old r u ? [17:48] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:48] 46. will be 47 soon [17:48] kinda young [17:50] young? naw, i hit the top of the hill and just starting my way down the otherside [17:50] im 31 and i feel that too [17:50] so dont bother :) [17:51] barkink (n=barkink@88.247.222.151) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [17:51] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@63.243.153.20) left irc: "changing servers" [17:51] Wiseguy (i=wiseguy@206.53.49.137) joined ##slackware. [17:52] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Client Quit [17:53] odd.. im 31 too.. and i think i still have the best left in me :P [17:54] night all [17:54] this nuts. what is the addr4ss/mask for 22.33.3.0-22.33.248.255? [17:54] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [17:54] that is, i still get better every day with the three things i like: cooking, programming and screwing :P [17:54] you're only as old as you feel [17:54] (or who you feel) [17:55] wow.. did i say that out loud ;-) [17:55] i have too many rough miles on me [17:55] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) joined ##slackware. [17:55] join the club and I'm older than you are and have no plans to go anywhere any time soon [17:56] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) left irc: Client Quit [17:56] I cannot get that calculation to work out :( [17:56] spiki (n=spiki@linette.net.yu) joined ##slackware. [17:56] i am not volunteering to go [17:57] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) joined ##slackware. [17:57] The-spiki (n=spiki@91.150.80.51) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:57] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [17:58] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) left ##slackware. [17:58] if the economy goes completely and people start starving they will do desperate things, and consider what a gang of hoodlums would do for a house full of food, i am just one man i can not fight off a whole gang of armed thugs with one pistol and one shotgun [17:58] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:59] <_kyori> uh yeah...so anyway... [17:59] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [17:59] that's why i have a semi automatic rifle and side arm [17:59] i dare some thug gang to pick my house [17:59] ... and a rottweiler? [17:59] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) joined ##slackware. [17:59] anyway, i wont give up without a fight and they will have to kill me to get past me [17:59] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:00] lannders (n=lannders@107-149.126-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:00] guttersplunk (n=chris@ool-4579690c.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:00] Existance0 (n=Arie@bngr-74-212-29-237-pppoe.dsl.bngr.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [18:00] anyone anygood at netowrk calcs? [18:00] Pig_Pen: You can kill a lot of people with one shotgun though. [18:00] NyteOwl: CIDR? [18:00] I normally don't have a probem but this isn't working out for me tonight [18:00] NyteOwl: http://www.gwebtools.com/bit-calculator [18:00] macavity: I have an ip address range and I want to g4et it into xx.xx.xx.xx/xxform [18:00] i know, but whos going to watch my back while i am defending one side of the house [18:01] agentc0re|work++ [18:01] NyteOwl: the CIDR one is on there as well dispite what the links says. [18:01] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) joined ##slackware. [18:01] GArik (n=wesnoth@mpd-955.tvcom.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [18:02] Pig_Pen: you need longer range [18:02] http://www.egansworld.com/guns/ktcompact1.jpg [18:02] nullboy: What kind of assult rifle do you have? [18:02] kel tec SU-16 [18:03] beyond 300 feet it wont matter because of thick trees & vegetation, you cant shoot what you cant see [18:03] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [18:03] "pick my house! pick my house!!!" [18:03] and some places the view is shorter, maybe 100 feet [18:03] lowkyalur (n=low@icm7-orange.orange.sk) left irc: "n8" [18:04] NyteOwl: What's the range? [18:04] JerrySabor^ (n=root@63-149-142-34.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] is there anyway to defrag in slackware [18:05] lulz [18:05] jk :P [18:05] lol! install wine and use windows defrag tool :D [18:05] wtf no [18:05] haha [18:05] eviljames: 80.190.3.0-80.190.248.255 [18:05] josemanuel (n=josemanu@157.0.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [18:05] heh, you could install virtualbox, xp in a virutal machine and defrag that for a while if you want [18:05] lol [18:05] kerber (i=daniel@unaffiliated/ethernet-/x-9843234) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [18:06] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:06] Linux does not make a mess out of the filesystem like windoze does so defrag is not necessart [18:06] eviljames: although that would only defrag your virtual drive [18:06] necessary [18:06] Existance0: actually there is... i found a nice little perl script that does it [18:06] lol [18:06] Existance0: unfortunately it doesnt really work with reiserfs :P [18:06] xD [18:06] but it does, supposedly, work very well with ext3 [18:06] eviljames: how bout make a virtual drive the size of the rest of you free space and defrag with vm :P HAHA [18:07] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:07] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [18:07] thx guys [18:07] Existance0: if you have the fragmentation contained to a certain area you can simply tar+gzip the area, rm the source dir and then untar [18:07] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [18:08] Pig_Pen: ext3 fragments [18:08] Pig_Pen: so does ext2 [18:08] but nothing like fat for ntfs [18:08] nullboy: http://www.h-online.com/open/Tuning-the-Linux-file-system-Ext3--/features/110398/3 [18:08] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:09] fat is a beast of a fs [18:09] fat32 I mean [18:10] godling: ha, that link suggests the same thing i did [18:10] ;) [18:10] nullboy: what did you say? I just interjected without paying attention. ;) [18:10] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=IDE&l=1 [18:10] guttersplunk (n=chris@ool-4579690c.dyn.optonline.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:10] godling: (2009-02-25 15:08:06) nullboy: Existance0: if you have the fragmentation contained to a certain area you can simply tar+gzip the area, rm the source dir and then untar [18:10] oh, yeah [18:10] that works well, so I hear [18:10] yep [18:11] I've never had to defrag ext* [18:11] moonhead_ (n=trip@ip72-200-201-93.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] I hate this class. [18:11] Existance0: you're pasting that for *us8? [18:11] does 12.2 contain /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev* ? [18:11] :p [18:11] sry meant to past that in the windows channel [18:11] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:11] and if so, what package provides it? [18:12] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:12] NyteOwl: I'd probably just use 80.190.0.0/16 [18:12] why do I need to learn Java for a CS degree? [18:12] NyteOwl: But that is because I'm lazy. [18:12] I hate Java. :( [18:12] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) left ##slackware. [18:12] /var/log/packages/xkeyboard-config-1.4-noarch-1:etc/X11/xkb/rules/evdev [18:13] t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:13] nullboy: sweet :-) [18:13] but that's in etc [18:13] not in /usr [18:13] aaaahh! [18:14] as of today i am finally on month to month mode with verzion. [18:14] \o/ [18:14] Existance01 (n=Arie@bngr-216-37-221-75-pppoe.dsl.bngr.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] Would it be considered rude to throw something at another student in my class? [18:14] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) joined ##slackware. [18:14] he's an idiot [18:14] i apparently have fscked up a make install somewhere [18:14] godling: Depends on what you're throwing. [18:14] I finally got my new phones activated on the plan I wanted [18:14] jkwood: boot? [18:14] t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) joined ##slackware. [18:15] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-113-65.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:15] To the head? [18:15] godling: depending on where you live it might be considered an act of violence [18:15] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:15] jkwood: the best defense is a good offense [18:16] Guest86231 (n=eblqcsw@200-103-11-44.gnace704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:16] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:16] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [18:16] strike first. strike hard. [18:16] nullboy: year.. that worked really well in Iraq ;-) [18:16] hahaha [18:17] nullboy: This is what i want. http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifle_468.aspx [18:17] yeah i was joking. i really don't believe in preemptive strikes [18:17] nullboy: i see you know history then :P [18:17] macavity: We didn't strike hard enough, obviously. [18:17] agentc0re|work: that is awesome but not legal in california [18:17] jkwood: lol [18:17] oh bhell just get a couple of claymores for teh front porch and be doen :) [18:18] agentc0re|work: that's why i ended up going with the SU, it is CA legal believe it or not [18:18] jkwood: you mean "where were the 10Mt nukes?" [18:18] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: No route to host [18:18] nullboy: Wish i would have had that in Iraq :/ Would have been nice to have that extra umph instead of 5.56. That doesn't do shit, trust me on that one. [18:18] anti-personal land mines scattered around in your lawn :D [18:18] Guest86231 (n=eblqcsw@200-103-11-44.gnace704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [18:18] Pig_Pen: HAHA, don't let the dogs out then :P [18:19] http://matt.might.net/articles/implementation-of-rsa-public-key-cryptography-algorithm-in-scheme-dialect-of-lisp/ [18:19] that is *insane* [18:19] agentc0re|work: well that REC7 in the shown config has a collapsible stock and pistol grip with a drop out mag. in CA that gun would need a solid stock + tool required mag release to be legal, at the very least [18:19] The-spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:19] but it's a badass looking rifle [18:20] macavity: Absolutely. [18:20] High_Priest (i=1000@cable-89-216-146-7.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:20] macavity: http://www.northernsun.com/n/s/1981.html [18:20] <3 that shirt [18:21] damn now i want to go to the indoor range :> [18:21] ooh take me [18:21] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.19) left irc: [18:21] godling: huh? even an old rusty lisper like me can read that [18:21] macavity: it's *tiny* [18:21] I'm not a lisp programmer, though. [18:22] nullboy: I also wanna get me a nice tactical shotgun and some beanbag rounds. [18:22] 00 buck & some slugs [18:22] agentc0re|work: I want an automatic shotgun. :D [18:22] agentc0re|work: this is how wacked CA law is...non-lethal shotgun rounds are banned... [18:22] law says shoot to kill [18:22] Action: alisonken1 agrees with Pig_Pen [18:22] godling: ive seen common lisp programs in 10 lines that does what 10k lines of C does [18:23] nullboy: HAHAH thats funny. [18:23] hehe [18:23] macavity: my friend said that he saw an RSA implementation in 13 lines of lisp [18:23] nullboy: military says "shoot to stop - if he dies, too bad" [18:23] hiddenman (n=hiddenma@207-95-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] hi guys [18:23] alisonken1: lol [18:23] please, help me to find libssl.so.4. still can't find :( [18:24] hiddenman: have you checked /lib and/or /usr/lib ? [18:24] its not like humans are an endanged species, the human race is over populated the earth anyways [18:24] hiddenman: That's where libs go :D [18:24] s/too bad/eat his flesh/ [18:24] godling: no doubt.. the problem is just that that kind of code is write-only :P [18:24] Dadsy (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:24] eviljames: heh.i know :) that's a compat lib from old openssl [18:24] also /lib64 and /usr/lib64 for 64-bit platforms [18:24] haha macavity [18:24] the sad part is too, in CA you'd be better off plain out killing an intruder because if you just wound or use a non-lethal round the court will ask you "if you didn't need to kill why did you shoot in the first place?" [18:24] katana > gun [18:24] macavity: It's called code for a reason. [18:25] godling: and that is, the biggest flaw of lisp... it *begs* for abuse :P [18:25] Existance01: You get a katana, I'll get a .50 caliber Desert Eagle. [18:25] hiddenman: maybe in /usr/lib ? [18:25] eviljames: modern rpm-based distros have it [18:25] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: "leaving" [18:25] Existance01: We'll see who comes out on top. ;) [18:25] godling: you'll have to find me first :P [18:25] hiddenman: "modern rpm-based distros" is an oxymoron [18:25] i mean package :) [18:25] Slackware is a moderrn .tgz based distro [18:26] hiddenman: hint, don't install random binary packages [18:26] semi-modern :P [18:26] but rock solid [18:26] w00t. time for a Leffe blonde :)) [18:26] and *buntu is a modern .... n/m [18:26] godling: within arms reach, the katana. close fast on a man with a gun and if you cana get close enough it becomes far less effective than an edged weapon [18:26] BP{k}: is that the only kind of blonde you are going to get tonight? ;-) [18:26] thrice`: i'd like to install native binary package if it was there :) [18:26] macavity: aye :) [18:26] hiddenman: Just what are you installing? [18:26] hiddenman: um, openssl ? [18:26] nobody is buying my junk i listed on craigslist :( [18:27] macavity: I prefer redheads, brunette's etc ovre blondes any day ;) [18:27] Pig_Pen: what kinda junk? [18:27] Pig_Pen: that is, presumably, because it is... well.. junk :P [18:27] Action: eviljames high fives BP{k} :: "Speak the truth!" [18:27] good stuff, large toolbox, and half ton chain hoist for removing and installing engines [18:27] NyteOwl: That's when you hit the function key to switch to flash bangs [18:27] Action: NyteOwl has a whole web page full of junk for sale. sold a bit but not much [18:27] jkwood: some binary billing system which requires libssl.so.4 [18:27] NyteOwl: url? [18:27] yeah i've had my troubles with blondes too [18:27] www.baud.ca/vsale [18:27] I'm always on the lookout for good junk [18:28] thrice`: an old one [18:28] careful I need to fix the html on a couple of pages as FF complains about xml errors [18:28] punch chards? [18:28] BP{k}: hair collor is somewhat further down the checklist.. are they willing to walk around wearing nothing but an apron? do they fully understand that it is just not going to suck itself? etc, etc :P [18:28] *cards [18:28] yep [18:28] how old are you? ;) [18:28] lol [18:28] it was in openssl 0.9.7. or somewhere there [18:28] Action: NyteOwl an ancient computer geek [18:28] JerrySabor^ (n=root@63-149-142-34.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "BitchX by any other name is still BitchX" [18:29] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.80.96) left irc: "leaving" [18:29] are you also a mason? :P [18:29] just go get the heavys gun [18:29] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.195) left irc: Success [18:29] and its over [18:30] I didn't really expect to sell them (I sue them as note paper) but some have sold for more thatn what I psoted on ebay as "collectors" items so I figured I'd put them on the site for kicks [18:30] godling: my father was [18:30] godling: well, I used punch tape rather than cards, so I'm probably not as old [18:30] you're selling Yanni cds [18:30] what is wrong with you man?! [18:30] http://tf2.com/heavy.htm [18:30] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.49.80) joined ##slackware. [18:30] hiddenman: Try ln -s /usr/lib/libssl.so /usr/lib/libssl.so.4 [18:30] Yea, why would you burden someone else with that sludge? [18:30] macavity: you forget the most important one ;) [18:30] dude I am all over that air supply cassette [18:31] alisonken1I've punched tape too . [18:31] macavity: "are they trainable?" ;) [18:31] Action: godling is all out of love [18:31] hiddenman: It's distinctly possible it'll work. [18:31] jkwood: i've already tried :( there are some strange bugs [18:31] I punched Ted once. [18:31] Existance0 (n=Arie@bngr-74-212-29-237-pppoe.dsl.bngr.epix.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:31] heh [18:31] He wasn't happy about it, asked that I wouldn't do it again. [18:31] Hmm... [18:31] NyteOwl: beta, cool :) [18:31] jkwood: it starts, but throws something like: Couldn't remove semaphore set 98307: Invalid argument at /usr/local/billing/bin/radiusd line 239 [18:31] Ah, okay. Let me see now... [18:32] NyteOwl: It's funny when people react strangely when I tell them I still watch vhs. [18:32] Action: jkwood goes digging [18:32] godling: I have a large VHS collection :) [18:32] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:32] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:32] aftermath of a normal 20mm (not explosive) http://www.vincelewis.net/myimages41/20-car.jpg [18:32] Dad` (n=Dad`@93.4.79.102) left irc: Connection timed out [18:32] I also have a large cassette/LP/45/78/ colelction. even some 8 tracks [18:32] fired from an f16 [18:33] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:33] DeeeeP (i=0@bl10-119-239.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [18:33] nullboy: How much for your truck? [18:33] hahaha [18:33] nullboy: those holes are bigger than my ex's. [18:33] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:33] hiddenman: http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-10.2/slackware/n/openssl-0.9.7g-i486-1.tgz [18:33] I want to see explosive round aftermath [18:34] speaking of anti-material http://www.anzioironworks.com/ [18:34] Try pulling it out of there. Don't install the package, just pull out the lib you want. [18:34] godling: Did you ever find out who she was cheating on then? ;) [18:34] 20mm mag fed omgwtfbbq [18:34] jkwood: thanks. moment [18:34] nullboy: I want one. [18:34] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) left irc: "BitchX: now with 42 percent more random quit messages!" [18:34] nullboy: best anti-soliciting system EVER [18:35] http://imagebin.org/39293 tool box http://imagebin.org/39294 chain hoist, the price is low compared to what most people sell that stuff for [18:35] lol [18:35] "Knock knock" "Who's there?" "Jehovah's Wit-" *BOOM* [18:36] 5000 yard maximum range [18:36] get 'em down the street [18:36] or 5 blocks away [18:36] jkwood: do you mean put libssl.so.0.9.7 as libssl.so.4? [18:36] I was thinking the next town over [18:36] haha [18:36] Existance01 (n=Arie@bngr-216-37-221-75-pppoe.dsl.bngr.epix.net) left ##slackware. [18:36] Yep. [18:36] hmm. [18:37] panzer_ (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [18:37] that 20mm is only $13,000 [18:37] they take visa! [18:37] or just rob from nullboy [18:38] uh [18:38] NyteOwl: thanks for the link, I'll check it out more thoroughly when I'm not at school. [18:38] hahaha [18:38] gtg [18:38] He has a 20mm, I don't want to try robbing him [18:38] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "leaving" [18:38] you'll get tagged before you're even in this county [18:38] jkwood: seems working, thanks [18:39] hiddenman: Glad to hear it. [18:39] (I just hope nothing else tries to link to it.) [18:39] jkwood: double checking right now :) [18:39] jkwood: so do i :-) [18:41] panzer_ (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:41] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:41] jkwood: oops. seems like sshd didn't start. fail :( [18:42] Hmm... I'm not sure how to handle that. [18:42] Put it in /usr/local/lib maybe? [18:42] :( [18:43] nille_ (i=1000@c-c460e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:43] ok... i *seriously* need to upgrade to 12.2 [18:43] nille_ (n=nille@c-4b62e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [18:43] jkwood: can't right now, it's far away :) but strange...sshd shoulnd't link to it [18:44] macavity: why haven't you? [18:45] thrice`: big install here now.. didnt see any benefit, as all the stuff i am really waiting for is under heavy development [18:45] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.49.80) left irc: Connection reset by peer [18:46] tribeca (n=naitso@host222-9-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao alla prossima" [18:46] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:46] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [18:46] nille__ (n=nille@c-4b62e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [18:47] brb [18:47] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [18:47] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:48] macavity: bah, latest and greatest doesn't hurt anything :) [18:49] i use slackware because it does *not* have the latest and greatest :P [18:49] it has "known good and stable" [18:49] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:49] well, I meant in terms of slackware, of course [18:50] macavity: Perhaps you'd be more comfortable with http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Debian ? [18:50] no [18:50] i dont want to fight the system if i want to make my own version of packages [18:50] makepkg is bliss :P [18:51] macavity: Read it. ;) [18:52] LOL!!!! [18:52] the RMS quote is awesome! [18:53] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [18:53] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.49.80) joined ##slackware. [18:54] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [18:55] rizitis (n=rizitis@athedsl-4556559.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "ta leme" [18:56] otep (n=otep@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:58] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:00] --group-directories-first [19:00] hmm [19:00] http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/vurdlak8/freakouteyes.gif [19:00] That's what I think of that! [19:01] oh yeah? http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/rgb.swf [19:01] *SEIZURE* [19:01] lol [19:03] nille_ (n=nille@c-4b62e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:03] zomg.. http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Slackware [19:03] Yeah. [19:04] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [19:04] macavity, that's been there for a while. [19:04] I think it was more oriented toward the "old people" joke a while ago. [19:05] has been a while since it was updated there [19:05] I had at least a moderate chuckle reading that. [19:06] ccfreak2k: i have never seen uncyclopedia before [19:06] ccfreak2k: i just bloody hope that google is bright enough to mod down hits for it :P [19:06] Last time I visited that article, it had the Slackware poster image with blackbox or something. [19:07] macavity: There is a lot of stuff on there. like this: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/AAAAAAAAA! [19:07] nille__ (n=nille@c-4b62e655.07-22-6d6c6d90.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:07] macavity that link is wicked. [19:07] jonsmith1982: No, NaCl's link is wicked [19:07] does anyone use munin? [19:08] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "schleep" [19:08] NaCl, I love how even the Uncyclopedia image in the upper left is changed. [19:08] Dadsy` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:08] ccfreak2k: The morse code does somethong similar. [19:09] more uncyclopedia fun: FreeBSD is a free computer operating system developed by devil worshippers as a Linux clone. Its goal is to provide users with levels of performance, reliability, and robustedness that are unmatched by other UNIX-like operating systems. [19:10] It is currently run by Gandhi and his manical pack of hyperactive animals with rabies. Satan is also supposedly lending code for the FreeBSD project that he had developed for his servers running in hell, mainly MySQHELL servers. [19:10] ok.. time to test the latest gfx stack... probably in for yet another hard lockup :P [19:10] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: "leaving" [19:11] "Older versions of Solaris used a hammer and chisel for their desktop environment, ..." [19:12] The BSOD one is also good [19:13] mib_vnm2uo (i=cf458b9f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2bef92baf63e590f) joined ##slackware. [19:13] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:14] wee! [19:14] no hard lockup [19:14] just that now my Fn key doesnt work?!? [19:14] Nick change: mib_vnm2uo -> Cann0n [19:14] time to test [19:14] macavity, what video hardware? [19:14] looks like HP is looking for solaris now that itanium is dead :) [19:15] i cant get my modem working. its an ATI IXP AC97 modem [19:16] RaeGrepus (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] ccfreak2k: intel 945GM [19:16] ah, i forgot to reboot to my new kernel [19:16] I get lockups with DRI, but I have a unichrome. [19:17] brb [19:17] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:17] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: Client Quit [19:17] evo_ (n=evo@p4FD4D90E.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("parted..."). [19:17] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:18] ccfreak2k: tried the openchrome video driver for X? [19:19] Cann0n (i=cf458b9f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2bef92baf63e590f) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [19:19] Dadsy` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:19] I'm using uh [19:19] Yes I am using that one. [19:20] Actually the newer revisions won't compile because of some conflict with headers that I haven't figured out yet. [19:21] hiddenman (n=hiddenma@207-95-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:22] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:22] Nick change: Strykar_ -> Strykar [19:22] "Slackware previously had a userbase of three: Satan, Gonzo, and Snake. But they left for more demonic operating systems." [19:22] good grief [19:25] "As well as its' normal uses, Slackware has also been known to power the Debian Project (Debian never releases, so they have to use Slackware for their servers)" [19:25] lol [19:26] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:27] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:27] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:28] nullboy: is that a fact or a joke? [19:28] uncyclopedia [19:29] uncyclopedia.org? 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[19:41] http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/clt/1050471521.html & http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/clt/1050548384.html [19:41] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@adsl196-51-68-206-196.adsl196-3.iam.net.ma) left ##slackware. [19:41] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@ns.detir.qld.gov.au) joined ##slackware. [19:41] FreeBSD is a free computer operating system developed by devil worshippers as a Linux clone [19:42] you can dell FreeBSD is developed by the devil from the horns on the logo [19:42] s/dell/tell [19:44] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.106) joined ##slackware. [19:46] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:48] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [19:48] Don't sweat the petty stuff, Pet the sweaty stuff. [19:48] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:48] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) joined ##slackware. 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[20:06] Evening(or morning or perhaps afternoon),ladies and gentlemen [20:08] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:10] tntslack (n=will@adsl30-101.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:13] dgo (n=dgo@unaffiliated/dgo) joined ##slackware. [20:17] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@ns.detir.qld.gov.au) left irc: "Leaving" [20:18] slow tonite [20:18] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.27.8) left irc: "Leaving" [20:18] yeah,it is [20:19] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:19] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:19] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [20:19] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) left irc: "... Leaving , was still at work..." [20:21] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.176.74) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:23] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:23] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:26] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:26] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [20:27] How can I change the default sound device ? [20:29] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [20:31] juice (i=juice@67.48.19.13) joined ##slackware. [20:31] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:47] i want to connect to my slackware box remotely [20:47] QWonder (n=QW@c-71-203-15-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:47] i have installed tightVNC but when i run its server , and i connect to it , it creates new Display session and it is not my current KDE desktop [20:48] SaEeDIRHA: look into the KDE desktop sharing [20:49] Hm I've always used X11vnc, and if I run it from a command line in my current X environment, I get that desktop when I connect. [20:49] is there any command line for it ? [20:49] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:49] Not sure why tightvnc would be different, but possibly it has different defaults. [20:49] i tired that m8 , i tried vncserver :0 [20:50] VNC shouldn't create a new session. [20:50] which refers to my current desktop session , but it gives me an error message that the x file is locked [20:51] thumbs: i dont have physical access to the pc until tomorrow [20:53] TriniTuX (n=clayton@cuscon126289.tstt.net.tt) joined ##slackware. [20:53] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [20:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:56] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:56] How can I change the default alsa sound device ? [20:57] I tried .asoundrc and that doesnt seem to work [20:57] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:57] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@38.99.247.89) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:01] test34, most apps let you specify which card to use in options [21:02] anyone got an idea for this VNC? [21:03] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@166.198.105.254) joined ##slackware. [21:03] just use k desktop sharing, someone suggested that already [21:03] Krfb [21:05] but if you already lack physical access i'm not sure what you plan to do with any solution. you already have a logged in user in a GUI on the remote end? [21:05] remote SSH [21:06] dive, I would rather change it for all apps.. for example, firefox doesnt have any option for sound device [21:06] SaEeDIRHA: i understand that but you said you wanted to connect to an existing desktop [21:06] test34, this is a plugin issue then [21:06] well i logged in when i was in office , and i am still logged in to X [21:06] dive, no, this is a default device issue [21:07] firefox does not produce sounds [21:07] its plugins do [21:07] afaik [21:07] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:07] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:08] TriniTuX (n=clayton@cuscon126289.tstt.net.tt) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [21:08] dive, I need to change the default device in alsa, that's all [21:08] there isn't really a 'default' device as such, except for some DE's like kde that use a default device in options [21:08] Xaviertoor (n=xavierto@189-015-121-206.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:08] I can here the sound in my wireless headset [21:08] here=hear [21:09] I want it in my speakers [21:09] so you have 2 sound cards? or one? [21:09] dive, are you some kind of bot? [21:10] I have 2 sound cards (wireless headset is like a usb sound card) [21:10] no mate just finished working and having a drink :) [21:10] ok then you may want to look at which card is given which device number using th modprobe options [21:11] the sound card on my mother board is device #1, the usb headset is device #0 [21:11] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:11] right [21:11] some kind of a bot [21:11] lmao [21:11] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:11] Action: dive botifies nullboy [21:11] heh [21:12] cat /proc/asound/cards [21:12] test34, I will paste up my 2 card config cause it's easier than explaining [21:12] game me those #s [21:12] gave [21:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:12] dive, ok [21:13] xdan779 (n=daniel@64-233-207-75.static.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [21:13] I have this: http://pastie.org/400534 as my ~/.asoundrc [21:14] lulz [21:14] watch the front page of thepiratebay.org :P [21:14] this was the output of my cat /proc/asound/cards -> http://pastie.org/400535 [21:15] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [21:15] test34, http://pastebin.ca/1347391 [21:15] LOL,macavity [21:16] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@38.99.247.89) joined ##slackware. [21:16] bbiab [21:16] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [21:16] dive, here's mine http://pastie.org/400537 [21:16] the USB sound card is not even in there [21:17] MLanden: that kinda says it all, doesnt it? [21:17] but it is still where the sound goes [21:17] Yeah,it does macavity.....kinda like that scene on the IT Crowd on piracy [21:18] blam [21:18] test34, right, so you need to add it [21:18] need to know which module your soundcard is using and add it similar to mine [21:19] dive, I need to add it to be able to tell alsa I don't want the sound to go there ? [21:19] you shouldn't need .asoundrc except for mixing [21:19] just make the one you want as default as snd-card-0 sound-slot-0 [21:19] and the other as -1 [21:20] then rmmod the modules and modprobe [21:21] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.61.116) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:21] ok thanks dive, I will try that [21:23] test34, do not run alsaconf after doing so or it will overwrite the file with the old settings [21:23] ok [21:24] in fact if it works, back up the file somewhere [21:24] that's a good cartoon and very true [21:24] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:24] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.42.29) joined ##slackware. [21:25] I might have to get myself a t-shirt while they are still around [21:25] can I install a rpm package on Slackware? [21:25] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) left irc: Client Quit [21:25] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [21:26] rpm2tgz [21:27] IntangibleLiquid, to be honest only do that if you are quite sure you can't get a slackbuild or source to build [21:27] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [21:27] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.181.27.168) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:27] in short.. YMMV [21:27] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "reboot" [21:27] dive, i'm in a hurry trying to get UniConvertor, and they only provide .rpm, weird! [21:27] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:28] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-202-6.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: "BitchX: coming soon to a theatre near you!" [21:28] uniwho? [21:28] dont be in a hurry [21:28] theres no source? [21:28] that's how you get a broken system [21:28] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-181-27-168.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:28] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) joined ##slackware. [21:28] macavity, i need that .cdr file very soon :( [21:29] do what you must [21:31] MrHales (n=user@12.166.25.119) joined ##slackware. [21:32] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-326388.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [21:33] just try rpm2tgz and look into explodepkg so you can check out the package [21:33] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.181.27.168) joined ##slackware. [21:33] that's something I've been meaning to ask - why have explodepkg when you can just tar xf? [21:34] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-181-27-168.net.novis.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:35] or, what does explodepkg do different? [21:35] http://www.trainhorns.net/sound/ [21:35] i can hear it and it hurts like hell [21:36] hmm? [21:36] i like train songs, Hank Williams Senior has a good one [21:37] Good one from Gordon Lightfoot as well [21:37] http://trainhorns.net/sound/sound.mp3 [21:38] and dont forget the "Orange Blossom Special" [21:38] dgo (n=dgo@unaffiliated/dgo) left irc: "Leaving" [21:38] dive: i belive that even if there is a leading / in the tarchive, it will still make sure it doesnt escape [21:38] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.181.27.168) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:39] dive: including the leading / used to be the novel way of giving people a nasty surprise :P [21:39] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) joined ##slackware. [21:39] hmm [21:39] i always explode them in their own special dir [21:39] usually something like OMG [21:39] ...because i did it in / once and that's what i yelled [21:39] yes [21:40] lol [21:40] lol [21:40] well.. after that you just exec /install/doinst.sh and you are done installing the package :P [21:41] rolfo (n=steve@c-76-100-46-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:41] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.61.116) joined ##slackware. [21:43] genreally i dont do anything as root untill im at the makepkg part [21:43] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:43] hi - i made some disk copies using dd last night and i'm tring to copy files out of them. i have a thumbdrive image that works fine, but 2 disk images that file with "bad superblock" erros when I try to mount thme. Any ideas [21:43] torqk (n=torq@acl1-1228bts.gw.smartbro.net) joined ##slackware. [21:44] I mean fail, not file. [21:44] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [21:44] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.181.27.168) joined ##slackware. [21:44] hi, i just installed slackware 12.2 but i'm having a problem when installing nvidia driver .. i'm getting nvidia.ko failed to build. any ideas? [21:44] i'm trying to mout with loop driver [21:44] the image contains the MBR/partition table too? [21:44] yes. [21:44] as in, you made an image of the entire device, rather than the partition on it? [21:45] it's a full disk image (2 of them) [21:45] that was not the question [21:45] yes. dd of /dev/sda [21:45] bad idea, huh? [21:45] why? [21:45] rolfo: how many partitions are in those images? [21:45] now you litterally have a disk image.. not an image of the filesystem on a partition [21:45] that's fine [21:45] it's not a problem [21:45] oh :-) [21:46] btw, the driver that i used was working fine with slackware 12.1 [21:46] theres I think three partitions [21:46] in each [21:46] Action: macavity sits down with the popcorn and expects to be educated [21:46] do you have the pareted command? [21:46] parted [21:46] Action: rolfo is moving over to check for parted...(diff box) [21:47] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:47] no parted [21:47] install it [21:47] one sec [21:47] 12.1 or 12.2? [21:47] 12.1 [21:48] i'll walk you through the mounting of a partition inside a disk image if you install parted [21:48] whoa...why parted? [21:48] i belive parted is in extra/ on 12.1 [21:48] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.1/system/gparted/ [21:48] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:48] i have the 12.1 disk here. [21:48] or get it where ever [21:49] macavity, man, found the source package, it makes life easier :) [21:49] gparted is the frontend [21:49] rolfo: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.1/extra/parted/ [21:49] there ya go [21:49] okay, installing it. [21:50] then pick an image to work with and run: parted /path/to/image [21:50] IntangibleLiquid: do you know the usual "DESTDIR=/tmp/packagename-1.2.3 make install" rutine? [21:50] um...you really don't need parted...if you're just copying files out. [21:50] torqk (n=torq@acl1-1228bts.gw.smartbro.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:50] he is not [21:50] multiple partitions [21:50] i need him to get the offsets [21:50] don't matter [21:50] macavity, it's a python package, so it goes like: python setup.py install, but good to know that for other things, thanks! [21:50] fine then you help him [21:50] whatever [21:51] sfdisk -l -uS /path/to/image [21:51] SaEeDIRHA (n=chatzill@78-105-170-115.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]" [21:51] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:52] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@ns.detir.qld.gov.au) joined ##slackware. [21:52] that assumes it is not a GUID partition table... [21:52] .... [21:53] man mount [21:53] oops [21:53] parted is installed. [21:53] :P [21:53] and I ran sfdisk...what do the numbers get me. [21:53] rolfo: better go with either nullboy or with SpacePlod... not both at the same time :P [21:54] i said, i'm done [21:54] well alrighty then... [21:55] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:55] rolfo: the "start" number is the offset to the partition in sectors. multiply by 512 to get the byte offset and pass to mount [21:55] I'll be the first part is 63 sectors...so: [21:56] the first partition is going to start at offset 32256B [21:56] you can forget about the B [21:56] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:56] mount -t xxx -o loop,offset=32256 /path/to/image /mnt/mntpoint [21:56] Action: macavity is nothing short of amazed [21:57] this is good entertainment.. keep it up :P [21:57] you can use the output of sfdisk to find the partitions and loop mount using offsets. [21:57] i have a question! i have a question! [21:57] o/ [21:57] I'll shut up now. hope it works out for ya. [21:57] or just use parted and change the units to Byetes in the first place [21:58] jdetring (n=jay@70.234.176.74) joined ##slackware. [21:58] ... can we *always* be sure about the 512 constant? [21:58] no [21:58] but but [21:58] netapp disks use 520 [21:58] O_o [21:58] no but but [21:58] noooo? [21:59] physical sector size? [21:59] they use 520 and go in a netapp enclosure that does proprietary raid and uses the extra 8 [21:59] oh [22:00] but but but [22:00] you need to be at least bright enough to check geometry before the dd...but 99/100, it'll be 512 (for hard disks) [22:00] cant i format the disk to any sector size i want? [22:00] (I use "geometry" loosely) [22:00] no you can change the formatted BLOCK size [22:00] and spell loosley bad as well. [22:00] ahhh! [22:01] is impedance like resistance against changing phase? [22:01] so so so... unless i haz teh special hardwarez i can just *assume* 512 bytes/sector? [22:01] macavity: pretty much [22:01] yes [22:01] \o/ [22:01] i've only seen one other sector size, 1k on an old hp-ux workstation, which is a minority computer [22:02] pi31415, yes I think it is [22:02] (not counting optical) [22:02] wow. the mount offset thing worked. perfect! [22:03] rolfo: it's a good trick to know when you work with partitioned disks and their raw images [22:03] pi31415, but there are different types of impedance - I take you mean electrical impedance rather than magnetic? [22:03] that was my initial head breaker with this problem [22:03] i'm betting i'll be doing this a few times [22:04] someone was kind enough to once point it out to me that i wanted images of filesystems, not disks [22:04] dive: wikipedia has a less down-to-earth description: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_impedance [22:04] but now i haz the uptin of choosing my own cheez [22:04] here's why i suggest parted: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10632 [22:06] nullboy: nice.. that makes it accessible even to people like me [22:06] Action: macavity rides the short bus to school [22:06] pi31415, that sums it up then [22:06] im 31 and i am *still* a 7th grader... beat that! :P [22:07] ryht (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [22:07] It makes it sound as if impedance is a function of voltage, current, and relative phase. by relative phase, do they mean change in phase, versus the position in the cycle? [22:07] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.181.27.168) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:07] pi31415, no idea [22:08] that's beyond my meager knowledge [22:08] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:09] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [22:09] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:11] Action: macavity raves to Rage Against the Machine: Killing in the Name [22:11] turn that music down - it's 3am dammit [22:12] it is more clearly described in one of the wikipedia references. http://www.antenna-theory.com/basics/impedance.php [22:12] no.. its 4am :P [22:12] no [22:12] and these 2.3W speakers wont harm a soul :P [22:13] it might be 4 am where you are, but believe me it's 3am in the rest of the world ;P [22:13] O_O [22:13] heh [22:14] where do you live mac? [22:14] Denmark [22:14] Muahhahahahahahahaahhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! [22:14] GMT+1 [22:14] right [22:14] I knew there was an easier way. [22:14] I'm GMT [22:14] MrHales: there always is... but sometimes the question is: is there a *better* way ;-) [22:14] meh,only 10pm here....GMT-5 [22:14] Good (insert time coordinates), everyone. [22:15] dFunct (n=dfunct@adsl-18-126-244.sdf.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] dive: UK/Ireland? [22:15] yeah England just south of London [22:15] This, as it turns out, is also the only way without awaiting the arrival of my router on the morrow [22:15] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:16] Yudha_HT (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [22:16] Well.. .. not the *only* way, but the only one that would not require copious research and/or downloading. [22:16] MrHales: as much of a revelation this might be to you, you are aware that the rest of us is left somewhere out of the caseing of your skull, right? [22:16] MrHales: as in... what the *heck* are you going on about? :P [22:16] Action: MrHales blinks. "Where did you people come from?!" [22:16] hheheee [22:17] "who are you?... and what are you doing in my spaceship?!?" [22:17] Realized that the answer to getting Slackware installed on this bitty box was actually much simpler than I was trying to make it. [22:17] ah.. KISS i presume? [22:17] And that makes me exceptionally happy. [22:18] nervously approaches MrHales and says..."How 'bout a nice cup of tea,sir"....and ducks [22:18] :P [22:18] I have this problem, thusly: Spot Hidden: 95%; Spot Obvious: 5% [22:18] Ferrenrock (n=sampo@c-67-173-155-191.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] Tea would be lovely. [22:18] :-D [22:19] MrHales, gonna give us a clue how you managed it then? [22:19] Well, picked up an SD card, native to the Eee PC, of course (hardware speaking) [22:20] ah slack -> SD -> box [22:20] But then was sorta stuck how to get the packages off the Slackware dvd onto the SD card without a reader in my desktop, nor a router to connect them, and without learning more about direct cabling (is that a null-modem connection..?) than I really want ot [22:20] to [22:20] would hate to meet the gent(lady) who wrote this readme file for gnome-cups-manager http://olympus.het.brown.edu/cgi-bin/dwww?type=file&location=/usr/share/doc/gnome-cups-manager/README [22:21] So I'm just going to fill up my 1G flash drive and move teh packages over from disc to SD [22:21] between boxes, as it were [22:21] Obvious solution, which is why I failed to notice. [22:21] okay...again with the mount and offsets, it is working fine on the full images I have, but if I have a split image (10 dd's of a 20 gb disk), how do I use it then? [22:22] stick them all back together first [22:22] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:22] nullboy: I can't. They're on a fat partition and I can't make a whole image. I found that out here last night. [22:22] The only thing in /slackware/kde *is* KDE, right? If I'm going to be using a totally other wm and desktop environment, I won't be needing anything there, right? just x and xap? [22:22] MLanden, wth lmao [22:22] linux blog site had it listed and it's for real [22:23] well you need to stick them back together if you want to offset mount the whole image [22:23] if you can't do it on the disk they are on you will need another disk [22:23] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) left ##slackware. [22:24] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [22:24] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) joined ##slackware. [22:24] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [22:25] okay. I don't think I can do that here. I dont have the room. [22:25] oh man... [22:25] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@ns.detir.qld.gov.au) left irc: "Leaving" [22:26] That was a real question, by the way. [22:26] MrHales: yes [22:26] rolfo: unless you have lots of time to read up, I'd stick with nullboy's suggestion and cat the parts together somewhere...but, you CAN loop mount splits. [22:26] kde is just kde [22:26] it's just not easy. [22:26] rolfo, were you guy in here yesterday asking about dd.ing to fat? [22:26] MrHales: positive [22:26] yes [22:26] "Good, thought so. What do we do, drink it?" "Yeah." "Good, thought so." [22:26] I thought you were going to format drive in ext3 and then dd? [22:26] MrHales: however, lots of people who use, say, XFCE, like to use K3B too.. which requires kdelibs and Qt [22:27] Thanks guys... oof [22:27] you know i thought of a gross way to get on with it now [22:27] convert the fat disk to ntfs [22:27] I won't be requiring k3b on this Eee P [22:27] C [22:27] you can do it non-destructively [22:27] hmm.. [22:27] i did with a 8gb thumb, but i had another disk inthe shop that i had to put a 20gb image on, and it already had files, so i chouldnt' reformat [22:27] MrHales: that kinda figures yes [22:27] ryht (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:27] MrHales: *however* you may want to look into KDE4 on the eeepc [22:28] MrHales: KDE4 is designed to play nice even with small screens [22:28] MrHales: all widgets are in SVG [22:28] MrHales: and i know that the eee can handle it speedwise [22:28] rolfo: is the fat disk fat32? [22:28] kde4 rocks [22:29] although I'm still trying to get the layout exactly the way I want hehe [22:29] yes. So how do i loop mount the splits...im curious how [22:29] http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb456984.aspx [22:29] rolfo: listen to nullboy...far easier [22:30] non-destructive convert to ntfs, then mount the partition using ntfs-3g and cat them together [22:30] Yes, it does.... hurts my lil' heart about k3b, though... [22:30] MrHales: what about it? [22:30] k3b works fine as long as you have the compat libs installed [22:30] As far as I knew,.. weird [22:30] I couldn't get it to work [22:30] So I tried upgrading and it wouldn't build, config complained about lack of qt-mt [22:31] Action: rolfo reads [22:31] eh [22:31] MrHales: and yo had the qt3 compat libs installed? [22:31] after first having to point the way towards every part of the qt installation that I got from the kde4 deps [22:31] packages [22:32] dive: by the way, i think that was you that helped me out last night...thanks. it saved me a ton of time [22:32] It appeared so... But I think, perhaps, that I missed a step and had not had the previous install of qt3 totally removed [22:32] that's p [22:32] even though I removed and/or upgraded all related packages... [22:32] np* [22:33] did you log out and back in before testing? [22:33] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.49.80) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:35] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "Leaving" [22:35] crud...the convert won't work for me. the only windows box i have is a laptop and i have no way of connecting a drive. I need to use linux for this (today anyway) [22:36] usb enclosure? [22:36] I might have one. [22:36] MrHales: glad you got me talking about k3b in kde4.. just fixed it on my slamd64 installation lol [22:37] MrHales: question.. do you still have kde4 and the kde3 compat libs installed? [22:37] http://www.koplowgames.com/page29.html [22:37] Can't think of many uses for glow in the dark dice. [22:38] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [22:38] put them in your paties and ask the GF if she feels luckey? [22:38] Yudha_HT (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:38] pi31415, strip monopoly [22:38] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:38] no usb. [22:39] I don't have an extra disk to do this on. [22:39] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:39] you're screwed! [22:40] there's no way you can copy the images somewhere, reformat in ext3, copy them back etc? [22:40] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:41] not with what I have here. I have a slack computer with a 20gb disk and only 5 free, and thumbdrives and client disks. [22:42] rolfo: ever work with mdadm? [22:42] I know what it is, but no. [22:42] omg i know where this is going [22:43] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: No route to host [22:43] hey man...it works. use it all the time. [22:43] it's just not "easy" [22:43] i know it works [22:43] what? [22:43] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:44] Action: macavity fetches popcorn [22:44] hmm? [22:44] First, your best bet is to wait til you can copy the splits off and re concatenate to a single image. If you can't wait...at all, then the only thing I can suggest is a linear raid [22:45] MrHales: hush! :P [22:46] it *does* work, but it's not sound practice if you are recovering for legal purposes (assuming verification is involved). [22:46] I say that b/c you mentioned "client" disks. [22:46] lol [22:46] Sorry, I just get all carried away. [22:47] which probably contain "client" data ;) [22:47] of which the "client" has interest in [22:47] Had a phone call [22:47] ...unless this is discovery. [22:47] bingo. [22:47] haha [22:47] macavity: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/xserver/xorg-server-1.6.0.tar.bz2 [22:47] No, I've decided to reinstall vanilla 12.2 and get a fresh start [22:48] MrHales: that sucks [22:48] great. [22:48] read howto's a bit more carefully [22:48] was going to have you check something in /etc/ld.so.conf [22:48] but oh well [22:48] It's not great, true, but I don't mind it so much. [22:48] It clears a bit of lint that way, maybe [22:48] thrice`: sweet [22:48] :> [22:48] Gives a sense of perspective.. [22:49] hey?!? [22:49] bottom line is: you associate each split with a loop dev, then create a linear raid using mdadm, then use /dev/mdx as the device you sfdisk (or parted :P) and mount [22:50] thrice`: X.Org X Server 1.6.99.1 [22:50] heh [22:50] thrice`: thats what i just build a couple of hours ago [22:50] ew. suggested reading? [22:50] man mdadm for starters. [22:51] joannis (n=joannis@net-80-253-189-213.beltav.hu) joined ##slackware. [22:52] rolfo: are you doing e-discovery for a contract or under HSPD? [22:52] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [22:52] did HSPD at my last job. this is for a firm. [22:53] dFunct (n=dfunct@adsl-18-126-244.sdf.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [22:53] rworkman: just wanted ya to know, i'm still googlin' trying to find any info that might make this card become a reality with slack [22:53] are those the only images you have or do you have backup copies else where? [22:53] only images. [22:53] lets hope YOUR disk doesnt crash [22:53] dude...no working copies? fer shame. [22:54] freaky! [22:55] er, no. these ARE working copies, but from the clients. they have originals. [22:55] i got about an hour left before i gotta call it a night so i can deliver this shipment in the morning. [22:55] but having said that, i'll try my best to keep in touch [22:56] Heya, jiffy [22:56] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.27.8) joined ##slackware. [22:57] Hiya, Hales [22:59] Okay, this is what I'm going to be attempting tonight: Install Slackware 12.2 to Eee PC. Will be booting from stick and using 8G SD card for sources. Leaving out KDE (but maybe libs?) because I'll be using LXDE (on top of..? Recommendations?). I'll be stepping through the install process to pick and choose what gets installed. wicd for connectivity, OOo at a later date for work on the go.... [23:00] just get it installed first [23:00] Action: edman007 takes a swing at installing slackware in an EFI only system [23:01] Looks like LXDE requires only gtk2... [23:01] What sorts of common/popular apps require KDE libs other than k3b? [23:01] SpacePlod: i'm going to play with that mdadm solution just for kicks [23:02] good luck....I was going to work on a pastebin set of commands to help rolfo out. Just setting up a set now. [23:03] Action: rolfo is still reading [23:03] that will come in handy. [23:03] test round 0 with be with a FAT32 8GB disk image with a single partition split into 2GB chunks [23:04] rworkman: i've got a question. my sierra driver is the stock driver (1.3.2) that came with 12.2 [23:05] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:05] i see on sierra's page that 1.3.1b is for the 2.6.27 kernel [23:05] now the stupid part [23:06] i'm running 2.6.27.7 [23:06] is my driver...1.3.2 newer or is 1.3.1b newer? [23:06] <[cipher]> :P [23:07] <[cipher]> any idea about how to set up pgsql in 12.2? [23:09] <[cipher]> PostgreSQL [23:09] <[cipher]> any idea? [23:10] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:11] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:11] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [23:12] RaeGrepus (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [23:12] Sheeeyat! I'm terribly popular for the last 30 minutes, or something... [23:14] What was that,MrHales? [23:14] MrHales: it'll fade [23:14] MrHales: thats because you are so smoking hot.. wanna make out? [23:14] jiffypop: modinfo -F version sierra [23:15] jiffypop: as you're see, you already have a newer version than that :) [23:15] s/re/ll/ [23:15] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:15] <[cipher]> setting up postgresql in 12.2? [23:15] <[cipher]> any idea [23:16] well, i *assumed* mine was newer but i would be lying if i said i was 100% sure [23:16] <[cipher]> (^_^)? [23:17] [cipher]: go to www.slackbuilds.org and type "postgres" in the search box [23:17] cipher, if i knew...i would surely help ya. but alas it's not to be :-/ [23:17] [cipher]: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/postgresql/ [23:18] sbopkg search postgresql [23:18] <[cipher]> thanks folks ^^ [23:18] MrHales: fwiw, lxde is basically just xfce modified a bit [23:18] sbokg "do it all for me baby! hehe [23:18] (or at least, it was) [23:19] <[cipher]> mbhayes, sbopkg? [23:19] so what fun exciting stuff is going on tonight? [23:19] <[cipher]> is that a command or what? [23:19] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [23:20] [cipher]: it's a command, but one you probably don't have installed [23:20] Yeah, but lighter, right? [23:20] (oddly, searching for "sbopkg" on slackbuilds.org comes up blank) [23:20] <[cipher]> Urchlay, maybe after installing pgsql [23:20] <[cipher]> ? [23:21] <[cipher]> aha, i see [23:21] [cipher]: installing postgresql won't also install sbopkg for you :) [23:21] [cipher]: sbopkg is a nice command line utility for interfacing with slackbuilds.org to get scripts.. and build them into packages [23:21] <[cipher]> sbopkg, what for? [23:21] <[cipher]> ah, i see [23:21] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:21] JerrySabor (n=user@c-98-196-82-196.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:22] MrHales: allegedly. [23:23] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [23:23] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] I'm trying to get the lightest system possible to get the most out of my Eee PC 900a [23:23] <[cipher]> what is the latest release of sbopkg [23:23] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.200.199) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:23] <[cipher]> 0.15.0? [23:23] rolfo: not elegant, and this only goes so far as the sfdisk...but you know how to mount from there: http://pastebin.com/m482b930c [23:23] MrHales: recompile your kernel for Atom then.. [23:23] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:24] Then I'll see about automating the experience a bit... [23:24] I was considering using the stock kernel built for the Eee out of the box [23:24] <_chess_> [cipher]: latest release is 0.26.2, but a new release will be out Any Day Now [23:24] At least to have the system up and running, then I can always upgrade latere [23:24] later, too [23:24] uhm, you shouldnt use the huge-smp for anything but first boot.. after that its generic-smp + initrd :P [23:25] 2.6.21.4-eeepc [23:25] Arch? [23:25] #2 [23:26] why the downgrade? [23:26] [cipher]: http://sbopkg.org [23:26] Eee PC comes with a sort of bastard child of Xandros and Debian, I believe [23:26] <[cipher]> thanks _chess_ [23:26] thanks. I'm almost there. [23:26] ah [23:26] <[cipher]> yeah got it rworkman, thanks [23:26] <_chess_> [cipher]: np [23:26] MrHales: fluxbox is among the lightest envs, but careful what you wish for -- you can always stay with a console :) [23:26] I know this kernel works, so I'll keep it as my fallback while building fresh [23:26] SpacePlod: i got it [23:26] but not with 2GB file sizes. [23:27] _chess_: any exciting news that should cause me to upgrade? [23:27] SpacePlod: I'm getting an error doing the loop stuff.../dev/loop8 no such file or directory [23:27] <[cipher]> rworkman, fluxbox is not env, it's a window manager [23:27] <[cipher]> :P [23:27] skibur (i=1000@12.197.204.167) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [23:27] <_chess_> rworkman: real men use a tiling window manager :-) [23:27] I'm going to use Openbox (Blackbox fork, I'm led to believe) with LXDE [23:27] that is cracracrazzzy [23:27] [cipher]: True, but for most people, same difference. :) [23:27] nullboy: I'm sure there's a cleaner way, but it works... [23:27] <[cipher]> damn right [23:27] _chess_: I'll sit over here with the frauds. [23:27] yeah [23:28] <[cipher]> but fluxbox won't works for me :( [23:28] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.194.32) joined ##slackware. [23:28] 2GB images files were too small for mdadm but 4GB worked [23:28] rolfo: I forgot, Slack puts the loop driver into the kernel, it's not a module. [23:28] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.194.32) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:28] <_chess_> macavity: http://code.google.com/p/sbopkg/source/browse/trunk/ChangeLog-current.txt [23:28] <[cipher]> i grabbed the pkg by slackpkg tool [23:28] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.194.32) joined ##slackware. [23:28] be back, hunting [23:28] by default it only creates 8 devices (0-7). [23:28] <[cipher]> but not works, got an error [23:28] <_chess_> rworkman: :-) [23:28] SM177Y (n=sm177y@204.38.194.32) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] you can pass max_loop=256 at the boot: prompt or in LILO [23:29] max_loop= [LOOP] Maximum number of loopback devices that can [23:29] be mounted [23:29] Format: <1-256> [23:29] mknod -m 0660 /dev/loop$X b 7 $X [23:29] done. [23:29] <[cipher]> kick kick [23:29] <[cipher]> :P [23:29] where $X=loop device number [23:30] ack...do it once in lilo and be done wit it. [23:30] yep [23:30] bah rebooting! [23:30] but just once [23:30] from then on...loops aplenty [23:30] In case anyone is wondering where that info came from, see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt -- that's good info. [23:31] 1.21 giggaloops [23:31] nullboy: that messes with your cron jobs [23:31] man...I gotta hit the rack. [23:31] <_chess_> nullboy: do you have a flux capacitor? [23:32] SpacePlod: g'night :) [23:32] _chess_: yes, with the Mr. Fusion upgrade module [23:32] ttfn rworkman: package is on the way. [23:32] whoo-hoo [23:32] make mrproper ; make mrfusion [23:32] lol [23:32] SpacePlod: Yay :) Thanks! [23:32] <[cipher]> fluxbox, any idea where i can found the configuration file of it [23:32] <_chess_> nullboy: :-) [23:32] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:32] <[cipher]> cuz i can't get it work [23:33] SpacePlod: wait! I still can't get the loop thing to work past 7 [23:33] _chess_: Awesomeness2000 :P [23:33] [cipher]: did it die the first time you started it? [23:33] <[cipher]> yep, rworkman [23:33] [cipher]: if so, try again. That happens sometimes, and I'm not sure why. [23:33] <_chess_> macavity: the last entry is pretty darn useful [23:33] yes [23:33] <[cipher]> try again! [23:33] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:33] <[cipher]> startfluxbox not working for many times of trying [23:34] I rebooted and I still only have 8 [23:34] Well, no idea offhand then. Maybe someone here can look into it; I've got to it the sack. [23:34] "max loop=255" [23:34] just create them [23:34] rolfo: "max_loop=255" [23:34] <[cipher]> rworkman, i'm wondering where it's conf file [23:34] no underscore? [23:34] see..rworkman is Waaay faster.. [23:35] oh damn [23:35] SpacePlod: /me does more user support. You're getting there ;-) [23:35] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:35] I wish I'd enabled logging [23:35] MrHales: we keep public logs [23:35] ... was it antler turned me on to LXDE? [23:35] Action: rolfo reboots again [23:36] Just last night, but I've slept since then [23:36] Well, really afk now. Must... sleep... :) [23:36] nullboy: did you do the same as SpacePlod's pastebin, or different? [23:36] <_chess_> rworkman: same here. 'night [23:37] g'night y'all. [23:38] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10635 [23:38] I'll sleep when I am happy o.r give up [23:38] well, shoot. my logbook is calling my name as is the bed. rworkman, i do appreciate the help and i'll touch base with ya when i can [23:38] it's grosser than gross but works [23:38] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10636 [23:38] oops [23:38] i had a typo [23:39] "You know that long, low, downy-soft article of furniture in the next room? It has the power to remove fatigue and restore vitality..." [23:39] is it called a sybian? [23:40] thanks, nullboy. looks about the same [23:40] where? [23:40] where for the typo? [23:40] No, it's a bed. [23:40] lol [23:40] Yeesh [23:40] lmao [23:41] What, other than k3b, likes kdelibs that I might want or need? [23:41] holy smack. this is cool as s4It [23:41] it worked. [23:41] As in: What's useful/popular/can't live without it [23:41] rolfo: trippy huh [23:41] not too hard, either [23:41] I could do this again [23:42] Anyone? [23:42] man. I learned more in two nights on this channel... [23:42] rolfo: haha [23:42] Too general a question,MrHales [23:43] MrHales: you'll find out soon enough and can correct later [23:44] Hales: i'll see ya, brother. rworkman and the rest of you lot...be good or be good at it [23:44] True [23:45] don't forget to breath air and drink water [23:45] moonhead_ (n=trip@ip72-200-201-93.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:45] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:45] Later, jiffy [23:45] okay...good stuff. Thanks nullboy! and SpacePlod, that's some wild raidvoodoo. [23:45] that mdadm trick is slick. i had never done it before myself [23:46] Hmm... does OOo need kde libs? [23:47] glad to help...btw, it's called "ghetto raid" in the industry. [23:47] haha [23:47] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@166.198.105.254) left irc: "nite, folks" [23:47] ghetto raid = raid0 over split sections of a hard drive image? [23:47] it's not even r0 [23:47] it's linear [23:47] MrHales: negative [23:47] oh yeah no striping [23:47] aka "jbod" [23:47] almost like jbod [23:47] MrHales,thought you were keeping it light for starters...;-) [23:48] crap..i'm just slow tonight [23:48] like ccd under netbsd [23:48] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [23:48] japosd just a pile of sh!tty disks [23:48] SpacePlod: I have those nights... most every night. :) [23:48] MacGyverraid? [23:48] :P [23:48] red and green raid [23:48] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [23:48] MrHales: no, then there has to be a rubber band and a paper clip somewhere in it [23:48] Well, I am. But I use OOo for my writing. I'm liking the master document feature [23:49] ..and a chocolate bar [23:49] don't forget the flex straw [23:49] pi31415: yeah red and green is what you see alright...on the enclosure as each disk fails [23:49] and fixing of the text decoration glitch in very long documents [23:49] IC,MrHales [23:49] anyhow, good night and hack well [23:50] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: "...And thanks for all the fish!" [23:50] This is, likely, a very naive question, but is there any reason I cannot install only swriter? [23:50] i've used raid to do an old trick: shut down oracle, split raid1, start oracle, back up the stale volume, then sync raid1 [23:50] I don't have much use for the other apps [23:51] I just need OOo writer, Gimp, pidgin, firefox, really... Wesnoth might be nice for those slow moments [23:51] yeah - OOo's a monolithic monstrosity for the most part [23:51] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:51] I think there's a slackbuild for abiword - I don't know too much about word processors, though [23:52] if it can't be done in vim, it shouldn't be done ;) [23:52] rolfo (n=steve@c-76-100-46-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:52] Novel is hard to do in vim [23:52] LIES AND SLANDER [23:52] Emacs is the one true editor [23:52] emacs is evangelical? no wonder people avoid it [23:52] Microsoft Word is the one true... um... [23:52] well, actually, there's probably about *nothing* you can't do in emacs, so that's a tautology [23:53] Really, US$500 for M$ Office, US$80 for iWork [23:53] people buy ms office? [23:53] Why don't more people wake up and smell the Mac? I mean, if Linux is too scary, at least get a Mac. [23:53] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [23:54] slakmagik: now I have to look up a word on dictionary.com [23:54] Or, if you prefer, if Linux is too scary, get PC Linux OS [23:54] sorry :) [23:54] heh [23:54] Or Ubuntu [23:54] My dog is sick. [23:54] :-( [23:55] ubuntu made your dog sick? [23:55] sit ubuntu sit [23:56] Lower the rez,MrHales....it'll be alright...:D [23:56] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [23:56] ubuntu makes me sick too [23:56] No, he ate onions. [23:57] MrHales: dammit, you were supposed to make fun of ubuntu [23:57] Which are poisonous to dogs and cats [23:58] Not terribly many, but enough to give him the screaming sh... well, I'll be PG a moment... and ubuntu.... Maybe I'm just too comfortable in Slackware, but that package management shite scares the crap outta me. [23:58] Yeah, neat-o keen to upgrade your whole system at a go. [23:59] in slackware, you can actually upgrade your os because it doesn't have a package management nightmare [23:59] true [23:59] That's what I mean! You actually know what is going on, what's going where (if you care to look)... [00:00] --- Thu Feb 26 2009