[00:02] functionoverform (n=IceChat7@adsl-76-224-78-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:08] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-72-82-77-159.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:08] heya,folks [00:09] professor langdon [00:10] hello [00:10] hello [00:11] so i just tried to install chrome with a slackbuild.. and its missing something called libnssutil3.so.1d [00:11] functionoverform: Update your slackbuild patches...either seamonkey* i believe [00:11] slackware* patches [00:13] functionoverform: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-13.0/patches/packages/ seamonkey-2.0.1 and seamonkey-solibs-2.0.1 [00:13] lol,jeev...sorry,not one on the subject of iconology..:D [00:14] redtricycle: thanks i'll try that out real quick [00:16] zalost__ (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:17] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [00:18] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:18] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:18] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:20] dhabyxc (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:20] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] redtricycle: that fixed one issue, now its saying libgconf-2.so.4 isn't there [00:21] install gconf [00:22] It's in the README [00:22] my lap's sound is not working.tried alsaconf and then adjusting the mixer, no use [00:23] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.208.42) joined ##slackware. [00:24] AcEg33k, what is the soundcard/chip? [00:24] MLanden:Intel IDT 92HD73C1X5 [00:25] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:25] AcEg33k: does that use the snd_intel8x0 driver? [00:26] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [00:26] alkos333 (n=alkos333@68-30-225-242.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] Urchlay: sorry, i do not know exactly [00:26] I just recently had a problem like that with an onboard sound chip using snd_intel8x0, the answer turned out to be to add "xbox=1" as a parameter to the module (seriously) [00:26] Urchlay: ok [00:26] AcEg33k: lsmod|grep ^snd # will show what sound modules are in use [00:27] functionoverform: what NaCl said [00:28] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "off to the land of snowy stuff once more :o" [00:28] Urchlay: however, when i upgraded the kernel last time, it worked [00:28] thanks guys, i'm installing it now.. i've never used a slackbuild before today, i just migrated over to slackware this morning [00:28] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("Bored by the chore of saving face."). [00:29] they're pretty handy [00:29] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-71-254-222-254.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:30] Urchlay: do you want to see the o/p of lsmod? [00:31] I want you to look at the output of lsmod and see whether snd_intel8x0 is there [00:31] if not, then what I said about "xbox=1" is useless and/or misleading to you... [00:32] Urchlay: ok , here iit is [00:32] veritos (n=koenig@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:32] veritos (n=koenig@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:32] koenig (n=koenig@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:33] Urchlay: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/Fn6eOf44.html [00:34] koenig (n=koenig@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [00:34] veritos (n=koenig@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:34] When I use screen on other distributions, it uses my system password for locking. Slackware, however, requires me to enter a custom password for screen. Is that a side effect of not using PAM? [00:34] new install and when trying to run KRandRTray it gives me the wait mouse icon but never comes up.. What would cause that? I've loged in as root also and tried.. same thing [00:36] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:37] rachael (n=nnrachae@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [00:37] AcEg33k: it looks like "snd_hda_intel" is your actual sound card driver. Try "modinfo -p snd_hda_intel", you might find some parameters you can pass to the module [00:38] Urchlay: it's already there [00:38] also. it's a laptop.. have you tried the headphone jack? is possible that you've somehow got the built-in speakers disabled [00:39] Urchlay: no, headphone jack is also not working [00:41] yeah... I dunno [00:44] confusid (n=confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:44] AcEg33k, any sound while in root? [00:48] MLanden: no [00:48] free_fx (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:49] AcEg33k, what was the last kernel you used that snd_hda_intel was working? [00:50] Urchlay: it worked in 2.6.31 and above [00:50] MLanden: it worked in 2.6.31 and above [00:51] AcEg33k, what kernel are you using now? [00:51] MLanden: using 2.6.29( default) with slackware 13 now [00:52] veritos (n=koenig@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:56] AcEg33k (i=1000@219.64.179.101) left irc: "Leaving" [00:57] so, eh, use 2.6.31 or above? nothing stopping you (I run 2.6.31.6 with the -rt19 patch) [00:57] oh, he's buggered off [00:57] was trying to see if there was any specific patch..none I see [01:00] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:00] does it matter if I'm a user or do i need to be root or use sudo when making a package? [01:03] you need to be root. [01:03] ty [01:04] *actually* [01:04] if you put /sbin:/usr/sbin in your user's $PATH, you can use sudo all you like [01:04] (seriously, I do this with everything I ever install from slackbuilds.org with no problems) [01:05] oh, I mis-read the question, he was asking about creating packages as a regular user. Yah, that doesn't work/. [01:06] *actually* [01:06] I started using slackware yesterday and am still confused a little :) [01:06] actually nevermind let's not confuse butterball more than need to be ;) [01:07] lol [01:07] AcEg33k (i=1000@219.64.180.50) joined ##slackware. [01:07] heya MLanden, how's it going? [01:08] great thanks fire|bird..you? [01:08] I'm good, thanks. :) [01:08] Chakravanti (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:08] Urchlay: ok, i got it working for root [01:08] what'd you do? [01:08] Chak (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [01:10] Urchlay: i upgraded alsa and added options snd-hda-intel=dell -m4 [01:10] Urchlay: sorry, [01:10] Urchlay: dell-m44 [01:11] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [01:11] Urchlay: but, it's not working in non root login [01:11] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:12] mmm'kay, check the permissions on the device nodes in /dev/snd/ [01:12] Chak (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [01:12] but you can't just chmod them & fix it, you'll have to mess with udev rules [01:13] (a better question might be, how did the permissions get mangled in the first place?) [01:13] Urchlay: yes [01:13] oh, right. Your non-root user needs to belong to the "audio" group, if he doesn't already. Run "id" to find out. [01:13] Urchlay: even alsa can't determine sound card in non root login [01:13] GooseYArd (n=GooseYAr@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:14] GooseYArd (n=GooseYAr@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [01:14] add yourself to the "audio" group, log out and back in [01:14] Urchlay: non-root user is already in audio group [01:15] Euthanatos (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [01:16] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "Leaving" [01:16] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:17] Last install my sound worked wonderfully now i have no sound after a reinstall.. Is alsa used for sound in slack? [01:17] butterball: yes, slack uses alsa. [01:19] as root it say's command not found. Do I need to add it? [01:20] butterball: which command r u issuing? [01:20] alsa [01:20] issue 'alsaconf' [01:21] and then use 'alsamixer' to raise the default volume and unmute the channels [01:21] alkos333 (n=alkos333@68-30-225-242.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:21] will I be able to use the gui volume control after changing things from command line? [01:22] sure, youwill be [01:22] butterball: issue those commands , and then issue 'alsactl store' [01:22] Nick change: dhabyxc -> dhabyx [01:22] butterball: see, if that works [01:23] ok also it is telling me I have 3 sound cards... :/ [01:23] probably, the first one is your sound card [01:24] butterball: what is the 1st one? [01:24] hda-intel ati sbx00 [01:24] 2nd is same except rs780 [01:25] 3rd? [01:26] legacy isa ono0pnp chips [01:26] non-pnp* [01:26] butterball: ok [01:26] butterball: select the first one [01:26] butterball: using ati graphics card? [01:27] tuvok302Lappy (i=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-81.dial.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:27] yes builtin video sound net [01:27] How can I a PDF printer driver for the browser? [01:29] butterball: any progress? [01:29] pupiteee (n=p@79.101.130.165) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:30] AcEg33k: ah.. found it [01:30] the hda sound was unmuted and regurlar sound was muted [01:30] butterball: sound is working? [01:30] AcEg33k: yes :) ty [01:30] butterball: no problem [01:31] pupiteee (n=p@109.93.25.5) joined ##slackware. [01:34] darylc (n=darylc@cpe-76-167-237-25.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:34] how may I go about playing dvd's? [01:34] butterball: what? [01:35] AcEg33k: Video dvd's [01:35] i have an old dvd of fight club [01:35] use xine or mplayer [01:36] tuvok302Lappy (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-81.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [01:36] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:37] darylc (n=darylc@pdpc/supporter/active/darylc) left irc: Client Quit [01:38] does it matter which mplayer? there is gnome-mplayer and smplayer [01:38] which desktop r u using gnome? [01:38] kde [01:38] it's slackware 13 ,right? [01:38] actually zine is installed [01:38] yes 13 [01:39] EvanR (n=EvanR@ip70-180-53-21.br.br.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:39] ok, then by default mplayer is installed in it [01:39] Can a "vnc viewer" control remote desktops? [01:39] anyway, use xine, it's better [01:40] :) [01:44] butterball, this might help you with some info http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/sdeg/multimedia.htm [01:44] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.96.25.17) joined ##slackware. [01:45] ty xine errored on me :) I need to read up on this [01:45] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:50] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:47] anyone ever have an issue where a compile causes gcc to chew up system resources without updating the console? [02:48] Axius_ (n=fd@92.82.90.5) joined ##slackware. [02:50] tuxdev__ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:54] alrite, so how exactly do i disable this nepomuk thing on my standard user acct [02:54] i disabled it on root, real easy [02:54] AcEg33k (i=1000@121.245.17.102) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:54] i clicked it in system settings and it gave me the option to uncheck boxes.. but now i can't get to that point as a regular user? [02:58] I have a horable question ;P I closed the remote part of xine and how do I reopen that part? When I open xine the player window is all that opens. [02:59] LOL.. nm ..... [02:59] :) [02:59] AcEg33k (i=1000@121.245.10.122) joined ##slackware. [02:59] ding ding ding.. I love slackware :D [03:01] AcEg33k (i=1000@121.245.10.122) left irc: Client Quit [03:01] right-click the player window and click Show Controls [03:01] butterball: ^^^ [03:03] Axius (n=fd@92.82.86.239) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:07] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:08] mranderson_ (n=mranders@adsl-76-224-78-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:09] functionoverform (n=IceChat7@adsl-76-224-78-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Don't push the red button!" [03:10] mranderson_ (n=mranders@adsl-76-224-78-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:11] functionoverform (n=mranders@adsl-76-224-78-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-129.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:13] hello [03:13] fire|bird :) ty [03:17] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:17] Axius_ (n=fd@92.82.90.5) left irc: Client Quit [03:18] juice (i=1000@67.48.17.30) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:18] Axius (n=fd@92.82.90.5) joined ##slackware. [03:18] hi [03:19] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [03:19] Greetings [03:20] how the slackers doing today? [03:24] Action: The-Croupier hates quietness :( [03:24] fine The-Croupier, what about you ? :d [03:25] TIC_PP (n=tropical@203.144.85.85) joined ##slackware. [03:25] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.208.42) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:25] Action: fire|bird pounds on some drums and cymbals to break the silence. Better The-Croupier? [03:26] Axius_ (n=fd@92.82.82.233) joined ##slackware. [03:27] keep in time,fire|bird.....do Keith Moon proud...:D [03:27] haha [03:28] MLanden: It's late (well, early actually, 02:28) just be glad I'm not falling asleep on the snare. :P [03:29] lol,true [03:29] homeboy (i=54facfa5@gateway/web/freenode/x-anmcoqufkfebqqzx) joined ##slackware. [03:30] MLanden: been messing with anything new lately? [03:30] fire|bird: how about mranderson ;) :p [03:31] fire|bird, no...other than goin' though some of the homebrew msx roms to use with openmsx,no [03:31] lol [03:31] pupiteee (n=p@109.93.25.5) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:31] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.207.118) joined ##slackware. [03:32] when trying to install transcode I received 2 errors one was for --enable-libpostproc and --enable-lame. Can I assume I need to install those 2 items first? [03:33] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [03:34] fire|bird, how 'bout yourself? anything new? [03:35] MLanden: not really, no, hasn't been much new and exciting stuff lately. :P [03:35] butterball: there is no --enable-lame in transcode (on SBo) [03:35] lol,fire|bird...there's always tomorrow...:D [03:35] and lame is optional, not required. [03:35] MLanden: haha, indeed. :) [03:36] MLanden: Well, I was messing with weechat today, new version was out yesterday. [03:36] functionoverform (n=mranders@adsl-76-224-78-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:36] been a while since I used that one [03:37] MLanden: It got some new commands, etc. nothing blockbuster, but something to mess with. [03:37] cool [03:38] wish i could say the same..im reading more now than i used to do in uni...:( [03:38] AcEg33k (i=1000@121.245.30.142) joined ##slackware. [03:39] MLanden: it gained commands like /allserv and /allchan to execute commands across all servers you're on and say something on all channels you're on. [03:40] fire|bird, orly?..browsing their changelog.... [03:40] does fglrx 9.3 works with slackware 13? [03:40] Axius (n=fd@92.82.90.5) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:41] MLanden: yeah, I also discovered it has a handy little script called weeget that grabs a list of all the scripts available and then you can install them with /weeget install script_here [03:41] cool [03:43] fire|bird: which software is that? weechat?! [03:43] The-Croupier: yeah [03:43] Hi Room. Just middle of the afternoon here this side of the planet :) [03:43] Axius_ (n=fd@92.82.82.233) left irc: Client Quit [03:44] AcEg33k (i=1000@121.245.30.142) left irc: "Leaving" [03:44] juice (i=1000@67.48.17.30) joined ##slackware. [03:44] grab him,fire|bird....TIC_PP's holding the sun ransom [03:44] :o, that just can't be allowed. [03:44] no wonder it's only 21F here. :P [03:44] Yep I am - warm, sunny. And slow network. [03:45] more 35C [03:45] MLanden: He sure didn't steal the wind, it's extremely windy here. [03:45] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:45] -25 C here now [03:45] ukraine is freezing [03:45] gulp! [03:46] Cambodia is not :P [03:47] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.96.25.17) left irc: "Leaving" [03:47] Anyone using GoogleEarth on a 64 bit machine? [03:47] homeboy (i=54facfa5@gateway/web/freenode/x-anmcoqufkfebqqzx) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [03:49] no, but you're the 2nd person to ask that in the past couple days... the other guy said it segfaulted [03:49] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) left irc: "=" [03:50] fire|bird, bit warmer here at 66F(17C) but raining [03:50] Agiofws (n=nnnnnAgi@athedsl-427750.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:50] MLanden: suppose to snow here. :P [03:51] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-129.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:51] hey, hatching|exploiter [03:51] Axius (n=fd@92.82.82.233) joined ##slackware. [03:51] err, fire|bird [03:51] Don't remember - I gave it a go a while ago, it failed, and i know i did not install any "layer"... Since I read that Slack doesn't need any. Puzzled. [03:52] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.96.25.17) joined ##slackware. [03:52] hey megafarads|Dumah [03:52] err, Urchlay [03:53] TIC_PP: did you try using this? http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/GoogleEarth/ [03:54] well, yes. That's the pint, and the source of my question: there they say you need the compatibility layer for 32bits, but without pointers. Maybe I should write to them. [03:55] TIC_PP, appears you need the compat32 packages. [03:55] agh, can you change your autocomplete so it looks like 'Urchlay: ' or 'Urchlay, '? When you say it (a) doesn't highlight, and (b) looks like you're copy/pasting something I said previously [03:56] TIC_PP: alienbob's compat32 packages, or fred's [03:57] AlienBOB, of course! Should've think of him! Thanks! [03:57] TIC_PP, http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ [03:58] Urchlay, i think he copy-pastes nicks with the mouse :) [03:58] Urchlay: sorry about <> [03:58] TIC_PP, use tab completion :) [03:58] slava_dp - yep. dumb me. [03:58] slava_dp, tab is cool :P [03:58] Action: slava_dp used to copy-paste nicks when he began to irc too. [03:59] TIC_PP: eh, it was only mildly annoying, but thanks [04:00] Urchlay, slava_dp Thanks again. Let me share this one with you guys: cool alien's blog one-liner: http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/calculating-pi 5° [04:01] seen that one ;) [04:03] fwiw, googleearth does appear to work just fine on my slack64 box (with fred's -compat32 packages, since I'm too lazy to switch to alienbob's...) [04:04] parameter passed in at end with no value :( [04:04] Urchlay, -good to now, thanks for the report. [04:04] Bye Room, back to (real) work now. Enjoy the weather... Like, put on a snowman competition or something while I'll have an ice-cold beer with my local LUG tomorrow... :D [04:04] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.23.50) left irc: "Leaving" [04:06] ehhh, I'm in Atlanta, no way to make a snowman here... maybe an iceman, inside a walk-in freezer or something... [04:06] Axius_ (n=fd@92.82.82.233) joined ##slackware. [04:06] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-068.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [04:06] Urchlay, :D [04:06] beer is always welcome though [04:06] last time I met any of the local LUGgites (8+ years now), I'd bet none of them were drinkers [04:07] Urchlay, every wednesday, 6PM, street 240... In Daunh Penh area, Phnom Penh, Cambodia. I'll buy you one, if you come. [04:07] cambodia's a loooong way to go for a beer [04:08] Urchlay, indeed. And the beer itself dosn't worth the trip. [04:08] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-5-22.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:08] lol [04:08] But it's ice-cold, so it does it. [04:08] the people I met at the LUG were a bunch of guys who acted like they wanted to be Mr. Spock when they grow up (and poisoning your liver with alcohol is "illogical"...) [04:09] Urchlay, D'you ever been _here_ ? [04:09] but, eh, that's only a first impression [04:09] where, cambodia? no... actually I have no idea what cambodia's like [04:10] (but then, I live in Atlanta and barely know what Atlanta is like, I don't go into the big blue room all that much...) [04:10] I thought Cambodia was pretty warm the year around. [04:10] urbank, OK. A general assumption of what a LUG can be like, then... Sure, there is a Bible-of-the-LUGs that says it all, what to do and all that. We just go the opposite route, that's all. [04:11] TheTrash, 35C indeed. but we had a typhoon this week, lots of rains in the peak of the dry season. Bad for rice, they say. [04:12] Sh*t, real time I go back to work. Bye (again) [04:13] TIC_PP (n=tropical@203.144.85.85) left irc: "Leaving" [04:13] 20 seconds after discovering tab completion, you've now discovered tabfail :) [04:13] aw [04:14] Reaver1 (n=User@212.88.117.162) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:14] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.78.190) joined ##slackware. [04:17] confusid (n=confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [04:21] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [04:25] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:28] zecafig (n=zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) joined ##slackware. [04:38] lolwut (i=1000@c-24-20-175-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:38] is there any tool to free memory in linux? i've launched konqueror from xfce, it loaded all the kde libs and doesn't want to give back my ram after i closed it :) [04:38] I've tried to use KRandRTray but every time it act's as if it is going to open but never does.. the little time symble runs for a few but the program never opens. How may I get this to work? [04:39] Reaver1 (n=User@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:39] butterball, launch it from a shell and see what it outputs. [04:39] any recommendations for a music player with a playlist, graphical, for eee pc? [04:39] slava_dp, not that i know of [04:39] slava_dp, why do you ask? [04:40] Delahunt, i'd like to be able to do "instant_mem_free" and get 100 mb of ram freed instantly :) [04:40] i dunno. just a thought. [04:40] slava_dp, are you new to Linux? [04:40] Delahunt, lol, not at all. [04:41] slave_dp would there be another name for it? The program for changing display size? [04:41] xrandr ? [04:41] slava_dp, my advice: always get more RAM [04:42] butterball, try "kcmshell KRandrTray". [04:42] the xrandr worked.. it shows the resolutions and current in use [04:42] Delahunt, does it have to be graphical? mocp(console) or cuberok(graphical) are the two I've been usin' recently...both have a nice queue feature [04:42] Delahunt, lol, did i ask your advice on how much ram i should have? :) [04:42] slava_dp: in linux, memory management works differently than on other platforms. even if it says the memory is used, it's usually not, it's just cached in case you reopen the app. as you use your system, it will use that memory for other things. [04:43] but it is only command line.. last install it worked with the gui.. Could I have broken it by reinstalling the system? [04:43] slava_dp, no i was just making a general recommendation 8-) [04:43] Azalyn, i *know*! i just want a prog to *free* the *cache* :) [04:43] well.. why? :| [04:43] MLanden, i would prefer lightweight and graphical. audacious ticked me off (usually it works good) [04:43] it doesn't prevent apps from using it [04:44] Azalyn, just to see this blue indicator on my xfce panel go down. that's all. [04:44] do i sound like a n00b? :-D [04:44] unused memory is wasted memory [04:45] one way to get several hundred MB of free RAM: killall firefox-bin [04:45] Delahunt, goggles music manager's 'nother that light on memory but nice on the eyes [04:45] Urchlay, i do that every day.... [04:45] Axius (n=fd@92.82.82.233) left irc: Connection timed out [04:45] MLanden, thank you so much for your recommendations 8-) [04:45] but, eh, having lots of memory being used as cache is a *good* thing [04:46] Delahunt, np...good luck [04:46] Axius_ (n=fd@92.82.82.233) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:46] Morn [04:47] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [04:47] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [04:47] slava_dp: I tend to leave firefox running for weeks at a time with lots of tabs open, rarely have problems (I "only" have 2GB of RAM, which still seems like a lot to me, but I guess it isn't these days) [04:49] maybe xfce should just rewrite their monitor to not count caches as "used" memory. and only count the stuff that is actively running and is unavailable for other apps. [04:50] Urchlay: hehe, i do the same. but trust me, firefox has it's limits. [04:50] i have hundreds open.. [04:51] spi [04:51] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [04:51] wrng wndw [04:51] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [04:51] i upgraded to 3.6 yesterday, and honestly, it seems to have much less problems than previous versions. it's the first time in years that i've used it, where it hasn't given me trouble. hopefully it stays that way. :) [04:51] with putting resolution size in /etc/X11/xorg.conf what would stop the resolution from working? It keeps using a lower res then what I'm setting. [04:52] butterball: what video card is this? [04:52] built on board ati 3200 [04:52] butterball: I have the same problem. though didn't fix It yet.... [04:52] are you using proprietary drivers? [04:53] or opensource drivers [04:53] I use proprietary [04:53] I installed slackware 13 and the resolution/rotation worked.. then I reinstalled and now things are a little strang.. [04:53] make sure the res you want to default to is the first one on the line [04:53] right now the radeonhd driver [04:53] tried the other one also vesa to see if there was a difference [04:54] the res is the only one but xrandr shows 640x480 up to 1280x1024 [04:55] I've double checked my xorg.conf setting to make sure I didn't misspell or have the wrong syntex.. [04:56] butterball: paste us the xorg.conf [04:56] k [04:56] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:57] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:57] is there a quick and easy way to recover data from ext4 filesystems? [04:58] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:58] http://pastebin.com/d1bc079b0 [04:58] it has the vesa driver loaded atm [04:59] kslen, you might want to have a look at debugfs [05:00] now my widgets are messed up again :( that's why I reinstalled. [05:00] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [05:00] kslen: testdisk does a good job for me. [05:00] kslen: the photorec tool included. [05:01] thanks [05:01] did you try the radeon driver? [05:01] which is just 'ati' i think.. [05:01] yes seems to not make a differance [05:02] butterball: I know that some resolutions aren't supported with some cards and the radeon/radeonhd driver. [05:03] I had a similar issue with an x1300 [05:03] urthwrm (n=hooch@unaffiliated/urthwrm) joined ##slackware. [05:04] Azalyn: I wish the old "galeon" browser was still maintained, and that it had support for firefox-style extensions (at minimum, adblock and noscript) [05:04] butterball: try deleting empty ports which you obviously don't use, and adding to "depth 24" smaller resolution [05:05] see if that changes.. [05:05] at one point (around 9.0 or 10.0 or so), slackware shipped with galeon, but I think it got removed as part of the de-gnome-ifying in 11.0 or whichever [05:05] i've got an issue with a radeon 9100, the x server would not start on a random pattern and would freeze the system. [05:05] or, backup xorg.conf and try without it [05:07] pupit when you say delete empty ports.. do you mean delet "depth 8, depth ... etc.."? [05:07] butterball: yes [05:08] Reaver1 (n=User@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:08] slava_dp, are you using in-kernel drivers or ATI's drivers? [05:08] is there a way to force xrandr to use a new resolution without having to restart X? [05:08] Delahunt, the free radeon driver. i suspect it's a bug with the card. [05:09] slava_dp, it might very well be [05:09] there are no ati drivers for this old a card.... [05:09] butterball, which DE/WM are you using? [05:09] kde [05:09] slava_dp, is X using ati or vesa mode? [05:09] this is a fresh install with only dvd and flash player support.. nothing else added [05:09] butterball: add Option "RandRRotation" to the ServerLayout section in xorg.conf [05:09] Urchlay: i'm hoping mozilla will just get more serious now. since they finally have competition. [05:09] Delahunt, ati. [05:09] butterball, kde should have something in the settings manager for that [05:10] it wont run [05:10] theblackerbox (n=sammo@92.25.242.121) left ##slackware. [05:10] slava_dp, try asking it to use vesa [05:10] butterball: also Xinerama must be off. [05:10] Delahunt, i wanted to get some acceleration, although vesa is an option, i'll try it. [05:10] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [05:10] i mean google chrome is already way better in several areas.. and up until now the main disadvantage was the lack of extensions, noscript and adblock plus being the most important. heh [05:11] eh, there's noscript and ABP for chrome now? [05:11] (or analogs thereof anyway?) [05:11] sorta.. [05:11] they support extensions now.. [05:11] slava_dp, you may be out of luck for acceleration unfortunately [05:11] and there was an adblock project.. [05:11] mrselfpwn can I enable that? [05:11] or two [05:11] but they are not really the same yet [05:11] butterball: what? [05:11] so it's at least in development [05:12] not sure if they use adblock-compatible subscriptions yet though. [05:12] mrselfpwn the Xinerama.. can I turn it on and where may I find that? [05:12] adblock rocks [05:12] noscript also [05:12] butterball: Xinerama must be off to select the resolution in X [05:12] butterball: Xinerama is for multiple monitors setups [05:12] Urchlay: i think the adblock plus guys themselves were interested in making a chrome extension. [05:12] which would obviously be the best solution. [05:12] not that big a deal: if there's a way to simply give it a text file, one URL per line, then it'd be possible to do some perlery (or pythonery) to turn the ABP subscriptions into something chrome's adblock could use [05:13] yeah, that'd be ideal [05:13] butterball: though to enable it if you need it add Option "Xinerama" "1" in the ServerLayout section of xorg.conf [05:13] slava_dp, have you tried to launch xorg without any configuration file? [05:13] another problem i think is that right now, chrome's extension system is missing some capabilities needed by them. [05:13] aww mAAAN.. not another apache/php update [05:13] but i imagine it will get better [05:14] Shuren, i don't have an xorg.conf, i use the free radeon driver. [05:14] Delahunt, was audacious eating up that much memory? [05:14] but anyways, now that mozilla has serious competition, i'm hoping they'll start to take this seriously. their codebase is very problematic, it grew out of a proprietary project, and that has haunted them for years. [05:14] Zordrak, does php break for you too? [05:14] 3.6 really does look like a great step forward. [05:14] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@71.104.224.127) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:14] then yes ok [05:14] wonder if the eventual 4.0 or 5.0 code will end up having to be a complete rewrite from scratch... ugh. [05:15] mozilla is also planning a 'mobile' browser... if they can actually manage to get the mozilla albatross working on a mobile platform... hehe [05:15] MLanden, no i have 2gb on my asus eee pc. it wouldn't play audio and everything else worked fine (and i could not for the life of me figure out why) [05:15] and manage to make it competitive with webkit [05:15] then that will be pretty cool [05:15] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@71.104.224.127) joined ##slackware. [05:15] in fact if you tried to add wave files to the playlist it would not even add them and give no reason [05:15] lol ironic name, "Albatross" [05:15] lol [05:15] that isn't their name.. :| [05:15] slava_dp: no.. just its i right ballache to update all my instances every time theres an apache security update [05:15] i'm just insulting it [05:16] mrselfpwn ah.. I did have 2 monitors pluged in on first install.. ty [05:16] yw [05:17] their codename for the mobile browser is "fennec" [05:17] i am glad that mobile-friendly stuff is coming out [05:17] the N270 and 2GB ram is a good combo but it's not super-fast [05:17] Yes, enlightenment now includes a "netbook" option when first starting it up. [05:17] Action: Delahunt points out that the N270 has hyperthreating [05:18] i imagine the mobile codebase will be folded back into the main tree once it's stable.. after all, any optimization for a mobile platform in theory would work for the desktop version too.. [05:18] what i need to do is figure out what packages i can uninstall if i do not plan on compiling on the netbook [05:18] firefox is important because they have the brand. [05:18] their brand is a powerful weapon. [05:18] but the code really needs to get cleaned up, and fast. [05:19] they have a lot of catch-up to do to get up to where webkit is. [05:19] in my opinion, memory leaks of that magnitude are absolutely and totally unacceptable [05:19] fwiw case in point with OOM decides to kill something it's ALWAYS firefox [05:19] Delahunt: python will be needed [05:19] for sure [05:19] yeah.. however, the worst problem in my opinion [05:20] pupit thanks [05:20] is not that firefox leaks memory [05:20] Steaki (n=steaki@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ffddc000-253.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:20] MLanden, do i absolutely need phonon or audiere with cuberok? [05:20] it's why can it sometimes get to the point.. where my system slows to a crawl, and i can't move my mouse anymore.. [05:20] Delahunt: Delahunt i think removing d from the slackware install will get rid of compilers. [05:20] or do anythin [05:20] anything** [05:20] heh [05:20] pupit (n=p@109.93.234.170) left irc: "Leaving." [05:21] one of the other things KDE needs especially (but several other programs as well) needs is a netbook option to help tame their high amount of dialog and settings boxes that exceed the typical netbook's display [05:21] pupit (n=p@109.93.234.170) joined ##slackware. [05:21] i'm glad i bought one, now i know from experience what people face and what i may or may not want to put in a netbook-friendly slackware [05:21] mrselfpwn, thanks [05:21] Delahunt, phonon for qt...but not audiere [05:22] there are problems in the lower levels as well.. linux has always seemed to have issues like this.. where something resource intensive goes on, and your mouse pointer stutters.. and when an app decided to leak all over the place, it gets even worse and then the system becomes unusable, you can't even ssh in.. you have to already have an ssh session open into the machine, to pkill the leaking app. [05:22] MLanden, i won't be using qt so i guess then i don't need phonon thanks bro 8-) [05:23] Azalyn, ulimit -u X (where X is basically 50 * # cores for atom, 100 * # cores for core2, 100 for pentium-m) [05:23] sad day [05:23] 1.0.0.0/8 got allocated [05:23] Zordrak, ? [05:23] Delahunt, np [05:24] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [05:24] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.207.118) left irc: Connection timed out [05:25] ergh, it's not even a netbook, I've been trying to use hydrogen (drum machine) and ardour (digital audio editing) on an older laptop with 1024x768 display [05:25] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) joined ##slackware. [05:25] i can't stand moblin-like interfaces (such as the xandros linux that was on this eee pc) but xfce and other programs have issues (like i said) with their dialog boxes [05:25] Urchlay, i agree, i have such an old pentium-m laptop [05:25] both pieces of software seem to assume you'll have more pixels than my old laptop (in the case of hydrogen, it gets actively painful to use) [05:25] Steaki (n=steaki@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ffddc000-253.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [05:26] unless you like using your computer as if you're in a box (i.e. "extend screen virtually" or whatever it's called where the desktop is bigger than the display) [05:26] ugh, I think of that as "pan and scan", it's horrid [05:26] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:27] true [05:27] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [05:27] granted netbooks are for mobility (duh); typing on them (to me) is torture [05:27] hydrogen uses some kinda custom widgets that aren't resizable when you'd expect them to be, too [05:28] pupiteee (n=p@109.93.186.142) joined ##slackware. [05:29] it's important not to go lower than 10 inches on a netbook. anything less is no good imo [05:29] you might as well get a zipit if you are going less than 10 in [05:31] mrselfpwn: im using 7" asus.. [05:31] the cutest of them all :D [05:31] at 7" or 10", no display I've ever seen will let me see enough information at once while keeping it readable [05:32] Action: urthwrm just bought a 11'6 BenQ [05:32] mine is fine at 10.1 in [05:32] my eyes suck though [05:33] Zordrak, who got 1.0.0.0/8? [05:33] Urchlay: you got the point there, I just like when it fits in my pants pocket [05:33] Delahunt, gmusicbrowser's 'nother one that can be nicely customized for a netbook [05:34] slava_dp: APNIC [05:34] pupit: I used to work with/for a guy who religiously used one of those lcd-in-a-pair-of-glasses displays, plus a tiny battery-operated + wireless computer + a chordboard that fit in his pocket [05:34] MLanden, thanks [05:35] Urchlay: AMIN! [05:35] :) [05:35] i'd like to get those glases [05:35] the end result was, he'd walk to up to people, find out their names, stick hand in pocket and wiggle it a bit, then go "Oh, you're the John Smith who works on such-and-such project?" [05:35] omniscience through simulated masturbation... [05:35] lmao [05:35] mrselfpwn using Xinerama did not allow me to use the gui for changing resolution or rotation but it is allowing the system to start at the resolution I want befor it change's it's self back to 1280x1024.. Thank you for your help and I'm going to look at a few other things along the options in xorg along with the driver [05:36] (the glasses looked like normal glasses, and in normal lighting you couldn't see the heads-up display from 5 feet away) [05:36] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [05:36] butterball: no problem. i said you have to cut Xinerama OFF to change the resolution using RandR [05:36] they don't mix [05:37] Urchlay: I bet he was some kind of a mastermind :p [05:37] well, he was a smart guy (professor at Ga. Tech IIRC), but it was kinda creepy listening to him describe himself as a cyborg [05:38] heh [05:38] jude (n=jude@41.222.6.205) joined ##slackware. [05:38] Urchlay, could imagine [05:38] mrselfpwn sorry.. getting tired.. I ment turned off.. :) I'm going to take a break for the night and read a bit more about xorg to see what else I can do.. It is probably the vcard I have along with a possable glitch in the driver. ty! [05:38] reminds me of one the scenes from IT crowd... [05:38] I mean, when the day comes, he'll be one of those guys with an implanted CPU in his brain, and I won't be (even if it means I become a fugitive) [05:38] butterball: yw, good luck [05:39] cbpye (n=cbpye@c-71-229-54-69.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:39] pupit,you mean with Moss? [05:39] mrselfpwn I must say.. I am overly happy with slackware besides this pot hole in the road ;P [05:39] yes indeed. [05:39] MLanden: meh :D hit n miss [05:40] you'll get it worked out. [05:40] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection timed out [05:41] MLanden: the one that draws masks on face, the scene when he speaks about going to the theater [05:42] im watching the german body scanner test... im gonna have to turn the sound off, german is such an ugly language to listen to [05:44] IT sounds like the Red Dwarf episode "Backwards" :) [05:44] jude (n=jude@41.222.6.205) left ##slackware. [05:50] _slax0r_ (i=fire@2001:15c0:66ca:0:0:0:0:b4) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:50] _slax0r_ (i=fire@2001:15c0:66ca:0:0:0:0:b4) joined ##slackware. [05:59] WarCriminal (n=IceChat7@124.43.157.169) joined ##slackware. [05:59] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:00] AcEg33k (i=1000@59.161.184.221) joined ##slackware. [06:00] later,folks...talk with all later [06:00] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.44.25) joined ##slackware. [06:00] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-72-82-77-159.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:00] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [06:02] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:02] Chessware (n=Rossoner@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [06:02] hello [06:02] hello [06:03] still looking for how to setup a local vpn based in ipsec :( [06:03] is there someone who ever used openswan ? [06:06] AcEg33k (i=1000@59.161.184.221) left irc: "Leaving" [06:06] AcEg33k (i=1000@59.161.184.221) joined ##slackware. [06:07] AcEg33k (i=1000@59.161.184.221) left irc: Client Quit [06:07] I was under the impression that openswan was being replaced by openvpn [06:08] alisonken1noc, openvpn works fine for me ! but I need ipsec based system ! and openvpn doesn't support this protocol [06:09] Any recommendations for serving a single file? Need to provide access to a single log file to staff. Was thinking Nginx or lighthttpd.. but was wondering if ive missed a simpler, more obvious method. It is literally only that one single file I plan to serve [06:15] email :) [06:15] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:22] g3rard (n=root@ict-nat-33-156.aston.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:22] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [06:22] g3rard kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [06:23] tank-man: not really the kind of on-demand solution im after.. [06:23] howellgp (n=howellgp@ict-nat-33-156.aston.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:24] hi Zordrak, I had done a plastic surgery and now I'm a white person. [06:25] now I can become a Linux Kernel Programmer. [06:25] and had learned to speak English without fail. [06:25] email with automatic 'vacation' reply is on demand [06:25] tank-man: overkill much? [06:26] web server for one file? :) [06:26] mini, superlight one.. [06:26] just a suggestion, its all good [06:27] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:28] howellgp (n=howellgp@ict-nat-33-156.aston.ac.uk) left ##slackware. [06:28] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-251-59.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:28] howellgp (n=howellgp@ict-nat-33-156.aston.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:28] Chessware, strongswan will be in the next SBo update. [06:29] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:29] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ikbmbwnhbfxwsgiq) joined ##slackware. [06:29] http://slackbuilds.org/ready/ [06:29] slava_dp, ok good news, but I have no problem with installation.. [06:30] Chessware, well, then you gotta RTFM :-) [06:30] Action: slava_dp has never set up ipsec [06:31] howellgp (n=howellgp@ict-nat-33-156.aston.ac.uk) left irc: Client Quit [06:32] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ikbmbwnhbfxwsgiq) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:32] Nick change: ga_bash -> free_fx [06:32] Ok.. I think i have the answer. tgf netcat [06:32] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-swfhvnyxrzymkipc) joined ##slackware. [06:33] i just need to work out what to send after the file to tell the webserver EOF [06:33] Zordrak, you're going to serve the file with netcat? :-D [06:33] slava_dp: sure.. why not? [06:33] s/webserver/browser/ [06:34] hi [06:36] Zordrak, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/371 [06:36] do any of you guys know how to get my broadcom 1395 wlan mini-driver from my dell inspirion 1525 to work with my wireless? or isnt it supported? [06:36] that's using inetd [06:37] slava_dp: *nod* [06:37] slava_dp: its basically the same thing. [06:39] mel0n, "modprobe b43", then "dmesg" to see the output [06:40] can you guys think of any programs i may not be able to use if i removepkg everything related to python? [06:41] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:41] mel0n, this is a public channel, please do not pm. [06:41] oh ok sorry [06:41] guax (n=guax@189.4.99.110) joined ##slackware. [06:41] mel0n, so did the module work? what does dmesg show about it? [06:42] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:42] it shows a LOT of info. what part would you like? [06:42] mel0n, oh, for broadcom, there are tools you are going to need. http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=b43&sv=13.0 [06:42] k ill get em now [06:42] Action: slava_dp is off to lunch, bbl :) [06:43] metriccwrench (n=ii@65.163.214.135) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:43] metriccwrench (n=ii@65.163.214.135) joined ##slackware. [06:46] damnit [06:46] i cant get it to EOF without dying [06:46] nm.. the EOF isnt super importanth [06:48] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Client Quit [06:50] Woo for netcat. [06:51] people! aaa [06:51] when i try to install a package dload from slackbuild, i extract then chmod, but when i do "./package.SlackBuild" i get this error @root/Desktop/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now" [06:51] goarilla_ (n=goarilla@103.69-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [06:52] mel0n: you need to put the source tarball in the same dir as the slackbuild [06:53] mel0n: as per the SlackBuilds.Org howto [06:53] mel0n: you have to download that what's missing and put it in extracted slackbuild folder [06:53] mel0n: alternatively use sbopkg (http://sbopkg.org) [06:55] ohhhh ok thanks guys ill was forgetting the source [06:56] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. 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[07:14] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Client Quit [07:14] sQuEE (n=narya@190.31.135.217) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:18] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [07:24] hi all [07:24] all* [07:24] hello gtludwig :-) [07:25] hi :D [07:25] so, is this the graveyard shift, or the euro shift? :P [07:26] well, im from uk [07:28] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:31] Denmark calling :-) [07:32] graveyard, of course :) [07:37] guys, a little help, this is the log of my /var/log/messages: http://pastebin.com/d4eb4f2ac [07:37] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [07:37] there are more logs for Jan23 and before... with more attempts... [07:38] what to do? [07:39] InspectorCluseau (i=0@64.238.225.35) joined ##slackware. [07:40] pupiteee (n=p@109.93.186.142) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:40] block ssh for that IP with iptables [07:41] alreadygone, nothing that can be done other than disable it when not in use [07:41] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.39.234) joined ##slackware. [07:41] and yes disable that IP [07:41] er block [07:41] you could also try moving it to a nonstandard port if you get sick of the worms [07:42] I don't have my firewall enabled... :| [07:42] then enable it? [07:43] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:43] if you're running linux, you already have a firewall. if you're running windows, that's fun [07:43] don't know iptables. could you guys please recommend me a gui for iptables [07:43] http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/ [07:44] i get this error when i try to install tor "checking for libevent directory... configure: WARNING: Could not find a linkable libevent. If you have it installed somewhere unusual, you can specify an explicit path using --with-libevent-dir [07:44] configure: error: Missing libraries; unable to proceed." any help? [07:44] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "PEBKAC, ID-10-T clicked the X ^_^" [07:45] alreadygone: try "iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s 65.208.122.48 -j DROP" [07:45] give that one a try [07:46] :) ok it's done... [07:46] but will that rule persist if I reboot the machine? [07:46] no - you have to put it in one of the startup scripts [07:46] oh ok [07:47] let me generate a script from the link Delahunt gave me [07:47] which version of slackware? [07:48] anyone? [07:48] t3st0r (i=c6b2c001@gateway/web/freenode/x-qetxqdheffyatrks) joined ##slackware. [07:49] mel0n: is there a slackbuild for it? [07:49] slackbuild.org [07:49] t3st0r (i=c6b2c001@gateway/web/freenode/x-qetxqdheffyatrks) left ##slackware. [07:49] yeh [07:49] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: ""Licenças GNU... proteção antiferrugem do Software Livre"" [07:49] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/network/tor/ [07:50] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.96.25.17) left irc: Success [07:50] did you also install libevent from slackbuilds _first_ ? [07:51] didnt know you were suppose to sorry [07:51] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.96.132.95) joined ##slackware. [07:51] :D [07:51] ill try that [07:51] tor says in the readme that it depends on libevent, so you need to make sure to install libevent before trying to install tor [07:51] oh ok thanks for the help [07:51] are you using sbopkg? [07:52] fatherx (i=1000@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) joined ##slackware. [07:52] mel0n: http://www.sbopkg.org/ [07:52] v4nelle (n=van@79.103.187.101.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:52] it makes slackbuild.org easier [07:53] ok ill try it out [07:53] dErFz (n=derf@unaffiliated/derfz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:53] hi, im running Slackware64 and i installed the b43 slackbuilds to allow wireless work, is there anything else to do after the installation of those packages? [07:53] download the sbopkg package, then "installpkg sbopkg*.tgz" [07:54] also install wicd? [07:54] it's in extra/ directory [07:54] alisonken1home, well it was installed before the installation of the b43 slackbuilds [07:55] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [07:55] then the only thing that should be needed is "modprobe b43" unless there's some other info that needs to be passed [07:55] ok [07:56] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-153-143.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:56] anyone knows if kernel 2.6.32-5 supports fglrx? [07:56] fatherx (i=1000@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) left irc: Client Quit [07:57] did you check with the kernel guys? [07:57] and fglrx I believe would be an X think, not a kernel thing [07:57] The real question is does fglrx support 2.6.32-5 :-) And I don't believe fglrx officially supports 2.6.32, at least as of version 9.12. 10.1 might. There are probably also patches floating around for it. [07:58] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=554401 [07:59] Suggests it's possible to build the kernel module after making a single change. [07:59] the real question is why do ppl use ATI [07:59] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:59] Because they provide 3D specifications and pay developers to work on open source drivers. [07:59] (And closed source drivers) [08:00] because it shipped with this crappy dell I got stuck with [08:00] I'm quite happy with my HD4850 with the open source drivers. [08:00] Played doom3 for a bit yesterday. [08:00] urthwrm (n=hooch@unaffiliated/urthwrm) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:00] oobe, some may have been liberated from windows only to discover (too late) they're stuck with ATI [08:01] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "leaving" [08:01] alreadygone (i=1000@59.103.209.188) left irc: "Leaving" [08:02] as sucky as the nvidia binary may be to install, it at least seems to work reasonably well [08:02] Delahunt, yea that is the main reason i suspect [08:02] until the open source drivers actually get up to snuff on some of this hardware I've got, it's gonna suck [08:02] I wouldn't consider regular lockup "work reasonably well" [08:02] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [08:03] Which is why I avoid nvidia at all costs. [08:03] oobe: You'll find that there are a lot of people who prefer AMD GPUs because of their stance towards open source. [08:03] dErFz (n=derf@217.18.70.128) joined ##slackware. [08:04] i wasnt even aware of AMD GPUs [08:04] I would, if they're drivers didn't suck on linux [08:04] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:04] ati should at least get on the bandwagon and put their stuff in the kernel and maintain it (surely the entire driver isn't trade secret; some stuff has got to be commonplace by now) [08:04] oh well [08:04] g'night [08:04] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [08:04] WTF.... That's exactly what they did with the open source drivers. [08:05] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [08:05] Action: adamk is always amazed at how little people know about the open source driver development for AMD/ATI GPUs, funded by AMD itself. [08:06] Action: alisonken1noc knows about ati open source drivers and support, but it still needs more work [08:06] All drivers need more work :-) [08:07] some more than others :) [08:07] I can play ut2004, doom3, nexuiz, openarena, morrowind, and any number of other games with the open source r600 drivers, so I'm quite happy with them. [08:07] fatherx (i=1000@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) joined ##slackware. [08:07] alreadygone (n=silas@59.103.209.188) joined ##slackware. [08:09] hi again, can anyone help with enabling the wireless adapter? i installed the drivers but when i try to turn on the hardware the keys are not recognized. any thoughts on how to map the keys (fn+f2)? [08:09] . [08:09] ? [08:09] InspectorCluseau (i=0@64.238.225.35) left irc: [08:10] fatherx - did you try wicd yet? you should have an icon on the tray for wicd if you do [08:11] interesting, i had the wrong adapter listed for the wireless, thank you alisonken1noc [08:11] alisonken1home, here is my generated firewall... http://pastebin.com/d7e0c20f1 if you can spare some time kindly have a look and tell me if I should add a line to allow the use of torrents.... [08:11] I doubt you need to push a software-combo to turn it on [08:12] GooseYAr1 (n=GooseYAr@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [08:13] those are a lot of rules - did you use an older version of a wiki to setup those rules? [08:13] GooseYArd (n=GooseYAr@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [08:13] GooseYAr1 (n=GooseYAr@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left ##slackware. [08:14] it says iptables for 2.4 kernel... and it generate the firewall using /sbin/iptables... I jusst modified it with /usr/sbin/iptables [08:14] let me search for the newer version of the wiki... [08:14] GooseYArd (n=GooseYAr@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [08:14] alreadygone: which version of slackware? [08:14] 13 [08:15] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-65-249.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [08:15] hi there [08:16] how is firewall configured by default in slackware? [08:16] http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/ has the latest entry for 2005... [08:16] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) left irc: "Leaving" [08:17] alreadygone: that firewall script is still valid for the latest iptables [08:17] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:17] so I'm good then :) [08:17] http://pastebin.com/m60ca0e16 [08:17] that's what I have setup [08:17] where is the /extra directory? [08:17] And http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/efg/ is the same script but with a small modification so that you can use it on Slackware directly [08:18] Action: metrofox sees new aaa_elflibs package on -current changelog [08:18] fatherx (i=1000@abraham.sh.cvut.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [08:18] thankyou alisonken1home [08:18] mel0n: on a slackware mirror or on the install dvd [08:18] mel0n: on the DVD you bought [08:18] AcEg33k (i=1000@59.161.148.53) joined ##slackware. [08:18] thankyou alienBOB :) [08:18] k [08:18] alreadygone: warning, it's actually 2 scripts [08:18] ok :) [08:22] now ive copied the wirc folder to the desktop how do i install it?? [08:23] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [08:23] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [08:23] wirc? or wicd? [08:23] sorry wicd [08:23] "installpkg wicd*.t[xg]z" as root [08:23] because ive install the b43 packages and want to see if i can connect to my wireless [08:24] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:25] brb [08:26] hmm its not finding any my wireless [08:27] mel0n, pastebin your dmesg output [08:28] ive installed all these http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=b43&sv=13.0 but my i cant find my wireless with wicd [08:28] kk [08:29] http://pastebin.com/m1e82a571 [08:31] try "iwlist scan" as root. [08:32] lo and eth0 interfaces dont support scanning [08:32] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.22) joined ##slackware. [08:33] they wont - they're not wireless. the only wireless should be wlan0 [08:33] ive got a wireless usb adapter if you want me to try that, its only a cheap one tho? [08:34] try "ifconfig wlan0 up" [08:34] its a "PEAK II wireless lan usb adapter" will that work? [08:35] i plugged it in and got this "wmaster0 Interface doesn't support scanning. [08:35] wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down [08:35] " [08:36] ifconfig wlan0 up ? [08:36] yes it worked but didnt output anything [08:36] ifconfig [08:37] iwconfig [08:38] http://pastebin.com/m64bd556a [08:38] all set, run wicd and connect. [08:38] k [08:38] brb [08:42] jhw (n=jhw@p5B3E3D48.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:44] jhw (n=jhw@p5B3E3D48.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [08:44] jhw (n=jhw@p5B3E3D48.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:45] k ive found it [08:46] k ive found it, jus need to remember the wireless pass :D, Seriously thanks so much for your help! [08:46] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-72-220.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [08:46] zalost (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [08:46] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: "lunch" [08:48] mel0n, so did you get it working with the built-in card or with the usb one? [08:49] the usb one surprisingly, dont know why the built in one didnt work, it did with ubuntu and win32 [08:49] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Success [08:50] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:52] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-72-220.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:52] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-72-220.telkomadsl.co.za) joined ##slackware. [08:53] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:53] goarilla1 (n=u0057769@kulnet-nat-2.kulnet.kuleuven.be) joined ##slackware. [08:53] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [08:54] slava_dp: you on -current? [08:54] Zordrak, nope, this box is 12.2 still and two desktops on 13.0. [08:54] goarilla1 (n=u0057769@kulnet-nat-2.kulnet.kuleuven.be) left ##slackware. [08:55] Zordrak, any problems with -current? [08:55] goarilla (n=u0057769@unaffiliated/goarilla) joined ##slackware. [08:55] slava-dp : been running 64-current and -current for a while. been good so far [08:56] i've learned my lesson no more XFS if you can't be sure your machine never crashes [08:56] ext* ftw [08:56] 5 % of my movies are corrupted [08:56] goarilla: ouch [08:56] even movies that were on the disk for a long time and haven't been accessed in ages [08:57] huh? is xfs really that crappy? [08:57] no. its not [08:57] i didn't think so but i put it to the test and created 512 bit sha checksums [08:57] and checked them 9 months later [08:58] might be a broken disk controller/cable etc. [08:58] if google decided XFS was the best way to go.. but because upgrading to ext4 was easier they stuck with ext4.. what does that say about xfs? [08:58] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:58] they can be pretty certain their machines don't crash [08:58] on a desktop that is not the case [08:59] xfs_repair? [08:59] why ? [08:59] especially since google has a lock on how they accept their servers [08:59] files have been corrupted [09:00] silent corruption [09:00] http://blogs.sun.com/elowe/entry/zfs_saves_the_day_ta [09:00] goarilla, regarding xfs corruption :) ^ [09:00] mquin (i=mike@freenode/staff/mquin) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:00] *silent corruption [09:01] welll zfs is userspace and we're talking about a celeron 600 machine with USB disks [09:02] stunix (i=1000@85.19.183.75) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:02] since harddrive platters are allways spinning the centrifugal force probably caused some bits to fly off ;p SSD is the way to go [09:02] :D [09:02] i have a ssd on my new mac [09:02] it rocks [09:02] 'silent corruption'? interesting new concept [09:02] stunix (i=1000@85.19.183.75) joined ##slackware. [09:02] Action: slava_dp does not suggest zfs. the article is about data corruption due to the power supply. [09:03] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:03] well, read. [09:03] write isn't any worse than a mechanical disk imho [09:03] im not worried.. even if im likely to have silent corruption, my XFS are backed up to another XFS via rsync.. anything changes and ill know about it before accepting the backup [09:04] so you first do [09:04] -n --stats before commiting it [09:04] ~/check_backup.sh [09:04] bash ~/do_backup.sh [09:04] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [09:04] and you don't notice it either unless you use the -c flag [09:05] Zordrak: not if he's talking about bitrot. unless you use rsync -c, there wouldn't be any changes for rsync to be trigerred [09:05] the modification time doesn't change [09:06] and using -c on a large dataset will wear out your drive quicker [09:07] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@124.43.157.169 expired. [09:07] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@124.43.157.169' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:08] zfs does look interesting tho [09:08] since speed isn't really the goal of usb disks [09:08] mquin (i=mike@freenode/staff/mquin) joined ##slackware. [09:09] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:12] silas_ (n=silas@59.103.215.203) joined ##slackware. [09:13] silas_ (n=silas@59.103.215.203) left irc: Client Quit [09:13] alreadygone_ (n=silas@59.103.215.203) joined ##slackware. [09:15] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-59.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:16] Drakevr (n=drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [09:22] rizitis (n=rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [09:27] alreadygone (n=silas@59.103.209.188) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:28] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [09:31] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:31] WArning. Off-topic question approaching.. im just short on responses and running out of people to ask [09:31] Does anyone have personal experience with a Draytek Vigor AP-700 Access Point? Im short on reviews and looking for opinion.. being a highly recommended company's flagship AP i thought someone might know something [09:31] hmmm for some reason i find my wireless and put in the right key, however it wont let me connect, any ideas? [09:32] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:33] zecafig (n=zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) left irc: "POF!" [09:33] get an airport :) [09:34] or the DIR-615 [09:34] ardya: why would i do that? [09:34] draytek have a much better rep than d-link and it seems the draytek is cheapeor too [09:35] better rep? you just said you could hardly find reviews heh [09:35] e.g. the best ADSL2 router in the world is a draytek... but its too bloody expensive so people dont buy it when they can have a medium quality one for less [09:36] *shrug* whatever works for you [09:36] is it ipv6 aware [09:37] i wont get native IPv6 WAN for years... let alone bothering to convert my internal net to it [09:38] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-187-104.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:38] my wireless usb has security "0/64/128bit wep" and "802.11i 128 bit AES" does this mean it wont connect to a wpa2 wireless router? [09:39] probably not [09:40] iirc 802.11i is implemented by WPA.. but WPA2 does more [09:41] john_dee (n=id@95-29-15-48.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [09:42] hmm is there any drivers or packages i need to download to get it to work? i have a PEAK II wireless lan usb adapter [09:44] mel0n, if your hardware does not support wpa2, you can either change the hardware (try the built-in card again!) or switch to WPA1. [09:45] Zordrak, this is the first time I hear about Draytek, to be honest. It's probably not very popular in this part of the world. [09:47] where the hall are all the roundup and comparison reviews for WAPs.. its like people have stopped using them [09:48] AcEg33k (i=1000@59.161.148.53) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:49] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-65-249.33-151.iol.it) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [09:50] pl can you help me with trying to get my broadcom wlan to work please? [09:50] *please [09:50] sorry my list connection. Please can you help me with trying to get my broadcom wlan to work please? [09:51] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.22) left irc: No route to host [09:51] slava_dp could you help me? [09:53] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:53] i've never used a broadcom, no help here, sorry. i've got an intel card. i just know that you have to provide the firmware found on SBo to the b43 driver. [09:53] hah [09:54] i didnt know this pc had a fan in it until I started building new gcc packages [09:54] mel0n, http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 [09:54] lmsensors is your friend :) [09:54] =( should i look into ndiswrapper then to try get a windows driver to work? [09:54] yeh am on that site now [09:55] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:57] sirius_isness (n=alpha@CPE00112f696800-CM000a735c1a29.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Connection timed out [09:57] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.39.234) left irc: "Leaving." [09:58] mel0n, is your card listed as supported? [09:58] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@20158159222.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:58] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) joined ##slackware. [10:00] town (n=town@adsl-69-153-169-174.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [10:01] brb am gona reboot to see if it makes a difference [10:01] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:01] so i have a linux machine with three interfaces attached. one connects to my DSL modem, the other to a laptop, and yet another to my PC. the machine is acting as my internet gateway without any problems. the issue i'm having is, i'm unable to ping my laptop from my PC and vice versa. I can see every machine on the network from the server. anyone have any ideas? [10:04] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:04] back [10:04] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Connection reset by peer [10:05] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:11] makerc (n=godzila@unaffiliated/makerc) joined ##slackware. [10:11] alreadygone_ (n=silas@59.103.215.203) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:12] town (n=town@adsl-69-153-169-174.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:15] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [10:16] ok guys ive managed to get the built in wlan working however it finds wireless connections but wont get an ip from them? should i assign my ip instead of dhcp? [10:16] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [10:16] here is my output from "iwlist scan" now [10:16] http://pastebin.com/m61f9859 [10:17] by the way my wireless router is "shanahan" [10:18] XD [10:18] ...? [10:18] funny name [10:19] you have any ideas on how to help me then? 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[10:24] pupit (n=p@109.93.234.170) left irc: Client Quit [10:25] i have, it validates then says obtaining ip , then pops up with an error saying "Connection failed: unable to get ip address" [10:25] substancev (n=substanc@1-18-132-169.idt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:25] any idea? [10:26] substancev (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [10:26] substanc1v (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:27] pupit (n=p@109.93.234.170) joined ##slackware. [10:27] mel0n: run a nslookup on the url [10:27] macavity (n=macavity@212088073004.static.sonofon.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:28] what url? [10:29] mel0n: oops, sorry, i dont do wifi stuff [10:29] rubick (n=rc@unaffiliated/rubick) joined ##slackware. [10:30] lol its ok im gona try this instead now http://forums.remote-exploit.org/backtrack3-howtos/16749-solved-dell-wireless-1395-wlan-mini-card.html, hopefully it'll work :D [10:30] mel0n, set a static ip? [10:30] substancev (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [10:30] how? [10:30] subvhome (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [10:30] via wicd interface settings. [10:30] Shuren (n=Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Sto andando via" [10:31] mel0n, by the way, update wicd, there was a bug in the stock slackware 13.0 version. [10:31] kk [10:31] slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all [10:32] Whats up crew [10:33] mel0n, don't use ndiswrapper if your card is supported natively. [10:33] subvhome, ehm. my laptop lid is up. [10:33] k im updating now [10:34] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:34] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.4) joined ##slackware. [10:35] i can't get ssh x11 forwarding to work on slackware.. i do ssh -X host but when i try to run something like xeyes. it complains that displays can't be found. also when i connect using -X flag i get this: Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not generated || Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding. if i run xauth i get a prompt... so it is installed [10:37] makerc (n=godzila@unaffiliated/makerc) left irc: [10:37] Is X11 forwarding enabled on the server? [10:37] subvhome: try -Y instead of -X [10:37] adamk: how would this be checked? sshd_config? [10:37] ues [10:38] well if it is not enabled by default... then no it isnt' [10:38] let me check this file [10:41] kloeri (i=kloeri@freenode/staff/exherbo.kloeri) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:42] alienBOB: did you find anything in gcc-multilib.SlackBuild that needed changing for gcc 4.4.3? [10:42] it just finished building here without any changes [10:45] subvhome, ''export DISPLAY=:0.0'' [10:45] pupit1 (n=p@109.93.234.170) joined ##slackware. [10:46] kloeri (i=kloeri@freenode/staff/exherbo.kloeri) joined ##slackware. [10:46] pupit1 (n=p@109.93.234.170) left irc: Client Quit [10:46] how do i disable static dns servers though when i choose my static ip? [10:47] do not grok [10:48] nachow (n=obama@122-124-128-160.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:49] how do i disable static dns servers though when i choose my static ip? [10:51] mel0n: repeating doesn't help [10:52] mel0n: repeating doesn't help [10:52] Action: mag0o couldnt resist [10:52] ehehe [10:52] macavity (n=macavity@212088073004.static.sonofon.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:52] so what, you're going from dhcp to static addressing, and you want to change which resolver you use? [10:53] Shuren (n=Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:53] raela (n=raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:54] sorry guys my internet keeps disconnecting so dont know whether you received it [10:55] did you see my question [10:56] last message not recieved, repeat [10:56] roger [10:56] kidding [10:56] ehehe [10:56] i edited the /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf file and change eth1 to assign an ip, it didnt work, then i put yes for dhcp but still didnt work :( [10:57] hah who was asking yesterday why slackware had such an old libtool [10:57] he must be clairvoyant [10:57] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:57] 0o [10:58] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@20158159222.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:58] butterball (i=62e7bfe7@gateway/web/freenode/x-kcaeadrzsccbdbem) left irc: "Page closed" [10:59] anyone? [11:00] Gentlements, anyone know any other app than Gparted to redimension a partition on linux? [11:00] brb gona restart [11:01] i love when people make up words: 'to redimension' [11:01] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:01] raph0x88: parted [11:01] raph0x88: qtparted [11:01] well that is in gparted [11:01] they are frontends for it [11:02] thank you capt obvious [11:02] haha [11:02] ^>^ [11:02] raph0x88: why are you looking for 'other than gparted'? are you having problems with it? [11:03] there are several - how much do you want to pay? [11:03] I've had success with gparted, it is pretty good [11:03] I seem to recall parted doesn't resize some partition types or something [11:03] raph0x88, slackbuilds.org > partitionmanager. [11:04] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [11:04] that parted is stable? [11:04] I dont want to risk my partition.. [11:04] dive: yeah it has trouble re-sizinf jfs I think [11:04] it's always a risk [11:04] backup and risk. [11:04] re-sizing [11:04] raph0x88: yes, it's stable. although any resize in filesystems should be done after you have real backup [11:04] nachow (n=obama@122-124-128-160.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware. [11:04] gparted (gtk) = partitionmanager (qt) = both use libparted. [11:05] right, its ext3 here [11:05] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [11:05] well make backups anyway unless you don't care about the data [11:05] will use parted then, ty [11:05] gparted re-sizes ext3 very well [11:05] i kinda care... heheh [11:05] but ext3 is well supported by all afaik [11:05] but, back-up [11:06] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) joined ##slackware. [11:06] alreadygone (n=silas@59.103.206.17) joined ##slackware. [11:06] raph0x88: if you value your data, you back it up first. [11:07] yeah... will do that :} [11:09] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:09] kloeri (i=kloeri@freenode/staff/exherbo.kloeri) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:09] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [11:11] i can't X11 forwarding.. it is driving me mad [11:11] Action: Zordrak just bought a WRT320N [11:12] subvhome: ssh -Y not working for you? [11:12] its working :) [11:12] stillborn (n=root@romeo-16.srv.hosting.fi) joined ##slackware. [11:12] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:12] stillborn kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [11:12] why isn't -X working [11:13] bbl [11:13] ssh forwarding not enabled in sshd_config [11:13] b/c your ssh daemon doesn't trust you? [11:13] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. 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[11:39] brbrbr (n=Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [11:39] ardya: e-mail. [11:39] ardya: what package? [11:40] email to whom? the software is tinyproxy [11:40] ardya: volkerdi@slackware.com, that's as official process as there is [11:40] ok, thanks [11:40] although i can't imagine a lot of push for it [11:40] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [11:41] worse that can happen is a request gets ignored [11:41] that's guaranteed :) [11:42] I've never been abale to grasp the reasons for having such a limited number if pkgs [11:42] simple, stable and complete. [11:42] Everything beyond that goes to slackbuilds.org [11:42] ardya: one maintainer. [11:42] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [11:42] ananke: I wasnt aware, thought he had a team [11:42] if you want a distro with a larger library, picking one that doesn't have a single maintainer would be advisable [11:43] kloeri (i=kloeri@freenode/staff/exherbo.kloeri) joined ##slackware. [11:43] ardya: there are folks who assist, but officially it's just pat [11:43] yes, I'm well aware of the other distros, and I use them too [11:43] how can i find out which so defines which symbol without nm [11:44] ananke: is sbo fully sanctioned by Patrick? [11:44] ardya: i'm not sure he has an official stance on it [11:45] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@20158159222.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:45] subvhome (n=substanc@ool-43530490.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:45] to offically sanction somthing you would need to veryify every build script and continually do so as it updates [11:46] ardya: is that package not located on slackbuilds.org? [11:46] no. [11:46] ardya: create a slackbuild for it? [11:46] goarilla (n=u0057769@unaffiliated/goarilla) left irc: "leaving" [11:46] for my systems yes [11:47] what i'm saying is that you can do that. [11:47] I did, for my systems [11:47] okay [11:47] I also buld binary pkgs for download [11:48] mquin (i=mike@freenode/staff/mquin) left irc: Client Quit [11:48] i'd rather not have more added to Slackware and expand at slackbuilds.org or create my own package. [11:50] I can respect that, but I disagree [11:51] for every app that people want to add to slackware, there is a team of folks shouting: 'bloat!, bloat!'. until pat actually adds it, then they say 'love it!' [11:51] Pam! [11:51] ardya: sorry, had a call, but looks like ananke answered your question already [11:51] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: Client Quit [11:52] mishehu: no worries [11:52] there are some things i would like to see not included with SW that are currently actually [11:53] mrselfpwn: such as? [11:53] ananke: they just need to buy the All New Ginzu 2010 knife set! so sharp you can cut all the bloat out of your software, and yet still slice your fingers cleanly off! [11:53] though it's not that big of deal because can just choose not to install them [11:53] nyRednek: well, it's just personal preference for things i never use though i'm sure other people do use them [11:54] there are certainly apps in slackware that I've not installed in over 10 years... [11:54] mquin (i=mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) joined ##slackware. [11:55] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:57] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-170-213-161.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:00] someone using current with this weekend updates? [12:00] safe update? [12:01] i think i'm using this weekends though iirc -current was also updated this morning [12:01] guax: o/ [12:02] ok, slackpkg running :) [12:02] with firefox 3.6 included in this mornings which i'm not using [12:02] well, rsync running first [12:03] im updating my mirrors so i can update the servers to 13.0 with fixes and my notebook to current [12:05] I updated last night, and survived :> [12:05] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [12:05] yeah, a bunch added this morning including gcc-4.4.3 [12:06] guax: apache needs libltdl.so from aaa_elflibs to run whit php module [12:06] that was the only issue I found [12:07] update it on hand tough? [12:07] Stik (n=Don@c-76-104-165-86.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:08] man I love a burrito [12:10] Axius (n=ghi@109.97.46.77) joined ##slackware. [12:10] I didn't update the whole package, just picked the lib [12:10] Axius (n=ghi@109.97.46.77) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:10] hummmm [12:11] gtludwig (n=gtl@150.162.165.43) left irc: "Leaving" [12:11] it is strange to speak with someone from your country in other language =) [12:11] is "safe" to update the whole package? [12:15] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:15] guitarman (n=steve@s207-6-28-60.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:18] brbrbr (n=Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:28] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: "Bye" [12:29] LOL wtf is up with this stupid mem limit crap on xz [12:29] guax (n=guax@189.4.99.110) joined ##slackware. [12:30] maliaros (n=maliaros@84.38.6.235) joined ##slackware. [12:31] tuxdev__ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:32] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:35] anyone got any clues why kde is missing icons in current32? [12:35] icons/buttons [12:35] Nick change: homeboy -> stillborn [12:35] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] dive, current from today or from yesterday? [12:35] both [12:36] iow todays updates ddn't fix it [12:36] dive: there's a new .txz with the icons in it [12:36] im using the one from yesterday and all icons are here [12:36] oxygen? [12:36] yeah [12:36] perhaps a install-new can help then [12:36] so slackpkg upgrade-all doesnt get it, has to be installed manually [12:36] ah yes [12:36] install-new thank you [12:36] GooseYArd, slackpkg install-new [12:36] suweet [12:36] yeah I did that [12:36] still no dice? [12:36] still borked [12:36] hzm [12:37] upgradepkg installl-new [12:37] Scuzz, I did slackpkg install-new [12:38] there are no more new packages to install trust me [12:38] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] but for example the dekstop folder that pops up when you start kde has no buttons, the power icon in systray has no icon [12:39] rworkman, alienBOB, any ideas? [12:40] do you have /var/log/oxygen-icons* ? [12:40] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-swfhvnyxrzymkipc) left irc: [12:41] /var/log?? [12:41] /packages too :> [12:41] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [12:42] hrm [12:42] strange no package showing .. /me investigates [12:42] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.96.132.95) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:42] new dhcp in current is broken so far on one box [12:42] dive, so, you want to know why you don't have icons showing, when you don't have icons installed? [12:42] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-71-69.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:42] Scuzz, the config changed, RTF-changlog [12:42] [ installed ] - oxygen-icons-4.3.4-i486-1 [12:42] ahh thanx [12:43] but not in /packages [12:43] /var/log/packages/oxygen* not there? [12:43] nope [12:43] ah [12:43] v4nelle (n=van@79.103.187.101.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:43] i did /var/pack... [12:43] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-71-69.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] ok yes - sorry been a long day :-) [12:43] they are there [12:44] butterball (i=ad080fba@gateway/web/freenode/x-bjmzdwlhdjbvqazy) joined ##slackware. [12:45] you're on -current? [12:46] yep -current32 [12:47] thrice where does it explain that the config file has changed ? [12:48] Scuzz, it says "new rc.inet1 compatable with dhcpcd5", and you might have a resulting /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.new ? [12:48] Scuzz, slackpkg check-new perhaps? [12:49] k thanx [12:49] Scuzz, if you updated today then it should be there [12:49] i did a clean install [12:50] thanx for the info [12:51] hm, ok. so, what is broken for you? :) [12:52] xz [12:53] bradhex (n=chris@c-98-193-248-168.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] bradhex (n=chris@c-98-193-248-168.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:55] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [12:56] macius (n=macius@i209-195-65-84.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:59] hey im using a macbook pro, and trying to get the touchpad working, does slackware have any mouse prefrences or anyone to set up a touchpad? [12:59] wertik_rus (n=mirggi@95-24-37-228.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:59] what doesn't work on it? [12:59] it isent functioning at all [13:00] are you using an xorg.conf? [13:00] although i've tried at least 6 other unix based os's and all of them were able to understand it primitavily ( only one click ), so i think just a normal mouse setup will work if thats offered [13:01] yeah i am, hm im gonna have to write certain sections in xorg myself? [13:01] lol didnt read into doing that yet [13:01] what type touchpad is it? synaptic? [13:02] see what your /var/log/Xorg.0.log is telling you. [13:02] well latest xorg uses /etc/hal/fdi to do that [13:03] yeah, though doesn't slackware include a default xorg.conf-vesa that is used or something? i'm not sure if it's actually used by default [13:03] /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi on mine [13:03] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [13:04] anyway, hal is the correct way to go as dive suggested. [13:04] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:05] Have you guys tried running 13.0 in the latest qemu-kvm from SBo? [13:05] its jsut saying i have an apple internel touchpad, hm i think i remeber reading something about synaptic with macbook pro [13:07] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:08] is synaptic the default for most os's? cause i just want the touchpad at least recognized for single click [13:08] I think something like 80% of touchpads are synaptics [13:08] it was recognized on other os's right, but it just had the funcitonality of a click and thas all i want [13:08] lol [13:09] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [13:09] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [13:09] ^kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC302FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [13:10] macius: it will work [13:10] macius, have a look in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ subirectory for the synaptics fdi file, edit it, move to the policy directory, logout of X, restart hal, startx [13:11] or you can I think reload hal settings [13:11] macius: and make sure you don't have and /etc/X11/xorg.conf [13:11] hopefully it will :) lol, yeah im missing that file [13:11] i already saw a post online and its not there for me :( [13:11] hmm let me investigate a bit [13:12] ls /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/11-x11-synaptics.fdi [13:12] move it to the directory above [13:12] i found somethign jsut now, saying its missing on slackware so im trying to get that now [13:12] I can pastebin mine if you can't find it [13:13] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [13:13] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:13] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-241.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:14] macius, http://slackadelic.pastebin.com/fec94bf5 [13:15] dive: ty :) although i found some random guide and it sees to resemble my case so ill try following this first [13:15] sure np [13:16] macius: was your macbook made before or after 2005? [13:16] ^kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC302FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [13:18] mrselfpwn: i think it was made 2007 the model is a 5,1 [13:18] ^kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC302FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [13:18] The driver that should be used is appletouch [13:18] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.115.55) joined ##slackware. [13:18] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:18] that is the name of it atleast according to the kernel info [13:18] modprobe appletouch [13:19] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:19] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:19] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:19] ^kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC302FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:19] hm its still not working, although i jsut realized my pmouse.conf is empy :S [13:19] is that a problem? [13:20] Emeau_ (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-80-55.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:20] is there a commented line on the bottom? [13:20] "/etc/modprobe.d/pmouse.conf" [13:20] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Client Quit [13:20] its commented out [13:20] o yeah [13:20] lol [13:20] uncomment that and save restart X. see if it works [13:20] i've actually had to do that before [13:21] also try modprobe bcm5974 [13:21] if the above doesn't work. that is another mac book pro driver [13:21] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [13:21] for mouse [13:22] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [13:22] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:22] still no luck kay i just uncommented the line in /etc/modprob.d [13:22] gonna try to restart X now [13:22] macius (n=macius@i209-195-65-84.cia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:23] zecafig (n=zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) joined ##slackware. [13:25] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) got netsplit. 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[13:31] oops :) [13:31] yeah that didnt work [13:31] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook5-1/Intrepid?action=show&redirect=MacBook5-1#Sound, thats the link btw i saw someone else post a link so i assumed i could if not sorry [13:31] for ubuntu* [13:31] thrice`, reinstalled oxygen-icons, rm'd ~/.kde = sorted [13:31] macius: what i would do if you don't feel like troubleshooting is just boot a livecd in which your mouse works and see what driver is loaded for it. [13:31] alreadygone (n=silas@59.103.206.17) joined ##slackware. [13:31] its still using 11-x11-synaptics.fdi which im missing tho right :S [13:32] dive, hm, cool/strange :> [13:32] _slax0r_ (i=fire@2001:15c0:66ca:0:0:0:0:b4) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Steaki (n=steaki@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ffddc000-253.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:32] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [13:32] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.218.139) joined ##slackware. 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[13:36] hm could someone tell me why i have a manual page for git-cloen yet the program doesnt exist lol [13:36] is there any other sites similar to slackbuild i can check for it? [13:36] git-clone* [13:37] macius, git clone is the new format [13:37] or git , with a space [13:38] o alright ty [13:39] mrselfpwn: one more thing does slackware come with bcm5974 ? since you were telling me to modprobe it?, cause im trying to follow the way its posted to run on ubuntu, without usign apt-get of couse [13:42] is it an out-tree module? [13:42] binary blob? [13:43] find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -iname "*bc*" [13:43] jomo (n=mich@p3EE20D1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [13:44] it's in the kernel [13:44] modprobe -l |grep -i bcm5974 [13:45] jomo (n=mich@p3EE20D1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left ##slackware. [13:45] not in my kernel [13:45] 13.0 [13:45] actually that above command doesn't apply. [13:45] ignore that [13:45] /lib/modules/2.6.29.6/kernel/drivers/input/mouse/bcm5974.ko [13:46] it's in 2.6.32.5 [13:46] huh? [13:46] yes, it's in 2.6.29.6 also [13:46] yeah [13:47] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC302FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [13:49] suid0 (i=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [13:49] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [13:50] fico (n=ficofico@host118-164-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:50] fico (n=ficofico@host118-164-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [13:52] jar_corefile (n=jar_core@host-studentw-138-72.dhcp.stevens-tech.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:52] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host81-152-206-196.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "reboot" [13:52] Axius (n=ghi@92.82.67.32) joined ##slackware. [13:55] mrselfpwn: alright ill boot up ubuntu from live cd, how would i check which driver its using?, honestly i did no comprehend until now how new i am to slackware =P could maintain it properly on desktop, but for laptop im an idiot lol [13:56] macius: do lsmod |grep -i apple lsmod |grep -i bcm lsmod |grep -i mouse [13:56] zecafig (n=zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) left irc: "POF!" [13:57] because it's probably either the appletouch module, or bcm5974 [13:57] if none of those return results then just lsmod and look at the output to see which one makes sense as the mouse driver [13:58] alright will do doing that now so ill be back in a sec [13:58] macius (n=macius@i209-195-65-84.cia.com) left irc: "leaving" [13:58] if you think one might then use modinfo to find more information about it [13:58] clutch (n=chatzill@c-98-213-31-32.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] clutch (n=chatzill@c-98-213-31-32.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:59] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:03] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:06] rubick (n=rc@unaffiliated/rubick) left ##slackware. [14:07] Is gtk part of Gnome or KDE? [14:08] macius (n=macius@i209-195-65-84.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:08] its part of gtk [14:08] gnome uses gtk [14:08] macavity (n=macavity@212088073004.static.sonofon.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:08] alright well grep found applescm when i search apple but i doubt thats the touchpad, and it also found bcm [14:09] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [14:09] macius, did you try modprobe bcm5974? [14:09] dive: yup [14:09] it found it? [14:09] error? [14:09] nope just nothing happened [14:10] that means it loaded then [14:10] well my touchpad is still not reacting [14:10] mhmm [14:10] so you need find how to configure it [14:10] you'd have to restart X at peast after loading the driver. [14:10] yes [14:10] 5974 [14:10] and if it still doesn't work pastey.net your /var/log/Xorg.0.log [14:11] SlackNews (i=nikopol@apple.chaosorigin.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:11] Is there any dvd ripping program on Slackware? I want to create mpeg files from my home DVDs to watch them on EeePC. [14:12] macius: also edit /etc/rc.d/rc.modules and add bcm5974 to load at boot [14:12] yeah i restarted x prior when i loaded it although still nothing googleing now [14:12] kleanchap, you could use mencoder [14:12] kleanchap, but check out slackbuilds.org for dvd ripping progs [14:12] mrselfpwn: so just toss modprobe bcm5974 in that file? [14:13] macius: can you post your Xorg.0.log on somewhere like pastey.net? [14:13] dive, does mencoder create mpeg files? [14:13] i think it can [14:13] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: "Leaving" [14:13] usually use it for avi though [14:13] yeah one sec ill port it [14:14] kleanchap, I forget now - long time since I used it. You may need rip with mencoder and convert to mpeg with ffmpeg perhaps [14:14] macius: /sbin/modprobe bcm5974 2>/dev/null to somewhere appropriate for it in the middle of the file [14:14] kleanchap, or follow that link and look for a gui program [14:14] put it in the mouse section [14:15] macius: actaully leave off the /dev/null part so you can make sure it's loading [14:16] On the EeePC I want to install lxde window manager and when I try sbopkg, nothing is getting listed. [14:16] so /sbin/modprobe bcm5974 in the mouse section. :) [14:16] macius, also you can check which options it supports with modinfo bcm5974 [14:16] How can I install lxde on Slackware? [14:17] macius, then put something in /etc/modprobe.d/ [14:17] GooseYArd (n=GooseYAr@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.4) left irc: [14:18] GooseYArd (n=GooseYAr@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:18] hm everything in my mouse section is commented out :s just realized [14:18] GooseYArd (n=GooseYAr@66.239.162.121.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. [14:18] ill toss it under [14:18] macius: yes, put it underneath [14:19] before worrying about that you should get it working [14:19] yes, also macius you remember that you uncomment the line in /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf [14:20] you may need to recomment that back out [14:20] of course restarting X afterward [14:21] rmmod psmouse [14:21] ShKoDrAnI (n=Ardit@95.107.196.68) joined ##slackware. [14:21] zecafig (n=zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) joined ##slackware. [14:21] rmmod psmouse? [14:21] o i just manually uncommented it [14:21] macius try everything [14:21] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-75-224.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:22] i got an error [14:22] when i did that [14:22] psmose does not exist [14:22] in /proc/modules [14:22] well psmose wouldn't [14:22] well it's not inserted probably [14:23] macius: was psmouse loaded in the livecd where the mouse was working? [14:23] nope [14:23] can you paste your Xorg.0.log? [14:23] hm how do i paste in pastebin im looking everywhere for a submit [14:24] lol yes one sec [14:24] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com [14:24] crudo|work (n=workforn@189.70.68.250) joined ##slackware. [14:26] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/8pOzr043.html [14:27] macius: see you are using an /etc/X11/xorg.conf because of your nvidia setup [14:27] you will need to edit that file [14:28] Axius (n=ghi@92.82.67.32) left irc: "Leaving" [14:29] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-241.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:30] hm alright [14:30] zecafig (n=zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) left irc: "POF!" [14:30] XPPRESP3 (n=chatzill@82.137.203.132) joined ##slackware. [14:30] you can pastebin your xorg.conf if you like. [14:31] yeah sure [14:31] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [14:31] it seems pretty small actually :\ [14:31] hopefully im not missing ot many sections mouse is understood under inputdevies? [14:32] n16h7f0x (n=nightfox@212.117.161.12) joined ##slackware. [14:32] yes [14:32] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/AK0gFy82.html thats my xorg.conf [14:34] macius: comment out the mouse line at the top under the ServerLayout section and also comment out the entire mouse InputDevice section, and reload X. Let x try and detect it by itself [14:34] alpha (n=alpha@host134.190-228-216.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [14:34] because the driver "mouse" will not work. [14:35] hi, ive installed VBOX, but when i run /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv setup [14:35] Nick change: oobe -> fartknocker [14:35] i get Error: /usr/src/linux (version 2.6.29.6-smp) does not match the current kernel (version 2.6.29.6) [14:35] Nick change: fartknocker -> oobe [14:35] uname -r [14:35] (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. [14:35] my kernel is 2.6.29.6 [14:35] (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. [14:35] yozzer (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:35] that is from your Xorg.0.log [14:36] yozzer (n=bgeddy@cpc3-live19-0-0-cust292.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:36] alpha (n=alpha@host134.190-228-216.telecom.net.ar) left ##slackware. [14:36] B4RR13N705 (n=alpha@host134.190-228-216.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. 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[14:38] still nothing ugh this sucks lol [14:38] heh yes indeed [14:38] macius: NOW pastebin your Xorg.0.log [14:40] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/vGkcnr52.html [14:41] why do i get /usr/src/linux (version 2.6.29.6-smp) does not match the current kernel (version 2.6.29.6) when running /etc/rc.d/rc.vboxdrv setup? how can i fix it? [14:41] i have another mouse plugged in right? but its not like touchpad would work if i would unplug it [14:41] Drakevr (n=drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: "Leaving" [14:42] uname -r: 2.6.29.6 [14:42] 2.6.29.6 != version 2.6.29.6-smp [14:43] install the correct headers package [14:43] ah macius lol, that's why it's showing that mouse [14:43] ardya: youre a genius! :| lol. But how can i fix it? [14:43] 14:43 < ardya> install the correct headers package [14:43] macius: you commented out the mouse section in xorg.conf? [14:43] XPPRESP3 (n=chatzill@82.137.203.132) left irc: Client Quit [14:43] Drakevr (n=drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [14:43] yes [14:44] macius: yes, try unpluggin it and restarting x [14:44] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-187-104.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:44] alright [14:44] macius (n=macius@i209-195-65-84.cia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:44] it's so tough to fix people's stuff without being there [14:44] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.219) joined ##slackware. [14:45] macius (n=macius@i209-195-65-84.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:46] still not functioning [14:46] is the module loaded? [14:46] lsmod |grep -i bcm [14:46] B4RR13N705 (n=alpha@host134.190-228-216.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:46] yeah its there [14:47] i should still ahve my xorg.conf commented for the mouse sections right? [14:47] yes [14:48] let me see your Xorg.0.log one more time [14:48] since you removed the second mouse [14:49] alright well i just plugged it in lol cause navigating to firefox then pastebin is annoying without any mouse [14:49] do i have ot restart x again? [14:49] no [14:52] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/5fMJBp24.html [14:52] just wondering your leaning towards im not missing anything right? just need to tweak xorg.conf? [14:53] cause im pretty sure your gonna give up soon so wanna have an idea of where to google =P, honestly tho ty for all the help [14:54] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) joined ##slackware. [14:55] newbieslacker (n=luis@host105.190-229-187.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [14:55] well, yes in the fact that you will probably need to manually specify in your xorg.conf the correct driver and just as important the correct device location [14:55] it's just that i'm not familar with macbook type mice [14:56] alrihgt [14:56] it would be dumb to boot back into ubuntu livecd and see the xorg.conf there right? [14:56] does the mouse show up under lsusb or lspci? [14:56] or woudl it be the same layout? [14:57] macius: it wouldn't be dumb. it would probably help you more than I would be capable over chat [14:57] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: "home home home" [14:57] i dont see it in lsusb nor lspci [14:58] i'll still help you, though i am not gonna do all the googling for you. :D [14:58] theres a bunch of apple, inc lines when i run lsusb [14:58] yeye i know i would of kept googleing but honeslty theres very little pages relating to macbooks and slackware [14:58] I see. [14:59] but so decided to ask on irc and all [14:59] yes [14:59] AKA "slackbooks" ? [14:59] alienBOB, have you thought of bumping your qt to 4.6.1? or, does the snapshot you have not contain the weird key-binding bug any longer? [14:59] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.76.26.89) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:00] what I would do is boot the livecd and copy/paste the output of lsmod to a file, and also see if there is an xorg.conf, get that and a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log [15:00] macius: synclient is another powerful tool though i'm not sure if it will work with your model. [15:01] if it's the bcm it shouldn't [15:01] it seems to be bcm tho right [15:02] kay ill boot into livecd and copy everything to a file [15:02] going by what you told me the livecd loaded, yes [15:02] ill be back soon but will try to figure shit out myself before i ask more tho so i dont spam this channel all day :) [15:03] yeah it did [15:03] it actually worked perfectly with 2 fingure scrolling capability [15:03] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.58.180) joined ##slackware. [15:03] although i also tried debian and opensolairs , those worked just not to full functiona;otu [15:03] newbieslacker (n=luis@host105.190-229-187.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Client Quit [15:03] castle` (n=james@99-11-196-244.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:04] yes, well you will now understand everything there is to know about your mouse. ;D [15:04] lol [15:04] you think it would be easier to get it to work in the mannaer it was working on opensolairs? [15:05] yes [15:05] cause its a livecd aswell and it may be using a diff driver [15:05] if it's capable then we are capable [15:06] (ignore the small print at the bottom.) [15:06] quick question, trying to install slackware (first time) via usb. i transfered everything to the external usb drive but when i boot up the computer doesn't read the usb... on slax, after i transfered to usb i had to run the boot.sh file (or whatever it's called). what am i missing for slackware? [15:06] alright lol well i first grab everything from ubuntu then see what driver opensol uses hopefully lsmod is a program offered by solaris :) lol [15:06] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: "leaving" [15:06] ty again [15:06] macius (n=macius@i209-195-65-84.cia.com) left irc: "leaving" [15:07] PHughes (n=Stazer@cpe-68-174-76-6.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:08] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@79.114.89.109) joined ##slackware. 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[15:22] raela (n=raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:23] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-59.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:27] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-75-224.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:27] My eeepc keyboard is locked up. Don't know which key I pressed to do that. How can I unlock the keyboard on eeepc? The mouse works fine. [15:27] Action: mrselfpwn shakes head. [15:29] ...? [15:29] darkwurm (n=atyrelyo@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [15:29] crudo|work (n=workforn@189.70.68.250) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:31] jhw (n=jhw@p5B3E3D48.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [15:32] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:33] macius (n=macius@i209-195-75-92.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:34] mrselfpwn: alright i got all the stuff from ubuntu aside from xorg.conf, and from osol guess lsmod and lsusb dont exist , although the Xorg.0.log looks like it shows xorg.conf :S hm lol, just saying if you would want to see them, im googleing myself now anyway [15:35] macavity (n=macavity@212088073004.static.sonofon.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:35] ShKoDrAnI (n=Ardit@95.107.196.68) left irc: Connection timed out [15:35] matu (n=matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:35] lol, post em [15:36] alright one sec :\ konqueror stopped responding and kill single 9 is not killing it :S its impossible to have a trap for for 9 i though [15:36] or maybe more shit isent responging lol ugh [15:36] nvm worked [15:37] kleanchap: can you ssh in? [15:38] guitarman1 (n=steve@s207-6-28-60.bc.hsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] thumbs, too late...I am rebooting. [15:38] :-) [15:38] kleanchap: bah. [15:39] Necos, ty [15:39] Guess I am getting old and impatient. :-) [15:39] mrselfpwn: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/wZGWt879.html for opensolairs, http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/RKpjMx45.html for ubuntu [15:42] guitarman (n=steve@s207-6-28-60.bc.hsia.telus.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:42] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.207) joined ##slackware. [15:43] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@71.104.224.127) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:46] XlX (n=Ardit@95.107.196.68) left ##slackware. [15:46] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [15:46] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:46] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@20158159222.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [15:47] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.218.139) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:49] Bus 004 Device 003: ID 1241:1166 Belkin MI-2150 Trust Mouse [15:51] Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0763:1011 Midiman MidiSport 1x1 [15:51] win 6 [15:51] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) joined ##slackware. [15:52] i'm pwning myself forgive me. [15:53] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:53] fuegoa (n=fuego@190.188.252.185) joined ##slackware. [15:53] fuegoa (n=fuego@190.188.252.185) left ##slackware. [15:54] chroot [15:54] hey guys can someone help me configure tor after ive installed it? [15:54] oops [15:55] why do you need tor? [15:55] I want to add a pdf printer driver to my browser. How do I do that? [15:55] keep my self hidden [15:55] LOL [15:55] also is it any of your business? [15:56] it is, yes [15:56] how so? [15:56] thanks for asking [15:56] -.- [15:56] kleanchap: your browser would use the systems print setup [15:59] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.44.25) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:01] alreadygone (n=silas@59.103.206.17) left irc: "Leaving" [16:06] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:07] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:10] What is the configuration command that allows to choose the daemons to start during startup? It allows you to choose the default window manager. [16:10] xwmanager I think it's called [16:10] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [16:10] hfjardim (n=hfjardim@78.150.198.29) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:10] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) joined ##slackware. [16:11] hm, somthing xw.. can never remember which [16:11] kleanchap: take a look at pkgtool (lots of options) [16:11] darkwurm (n=atyrelyo@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Connection timed out [16:12] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-59.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:13] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) left irc: Client Quit [16:14] distrust (n=distrust@69-165-157-207.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [16:15] kleanchap: xwmconfig [16:16] and pkgtools [16:16] mrselfpwn, thnx [16:16] tool* [16:17] Coolmax89 (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-43-240.multimo.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:17] Coolmax89 (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-43-240.multimo.pl) left irc: Client Quit [16:19] My browser->Print... setup shows only "Print to file". It does not list any pdf printer driver. How can I install this on Slackware? [16:19] print to file > select pdf instead of ps? [16:20] assuming you did a full install [16:20] kleanchap: print to file is the pdf print driver... [16:20] hmmm, you sure it doesn't always print to a postscript file? [16:20] mag0o, Yes, I did a full install. I saw the pdf option now. Thnx. [16:21] if so, you can always use ps2pdf [16:21] nyRednek, thnx [16:22] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:22] jerware (n=RahmboDe@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [16:22] hi [16:23] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:23] im using firefox and I dont think i have jre for it. [16:23] jerware: did you do a full install? [16:23] yeah. [16:24] I have an applet, it runs in appletviewer but not in firefox [16:24] can someone help me with this tor error? [16:24] I have enable java checked in perferences [16:24] jerware: about:plugins [16:25] see if java is there [16:25] macius (n=macius@i209-195-75-92.cia.com) left irc: "leaving" [16:25] under addons ? [16:25] no, in address bar, type about:plugins [16:26] http://pastebin.com/md331ba4 [16:26] Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_07-b06 [16:26] jerware: which means you have java installed [16:26] oh [16:26] well that sucks. I wrote an applet, it runs fine in appletviewer but not in firefox [16:26] macius (n=macius@i209-195-75-92.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:27] jerware: hmmm...maybe the applet tags in the html file are malformed? [16:27] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:27] [16:27] thats it [16:28] jerware: codebase=file:///home/jerware/applet/src/" [16:28] hmm java that comes out the webpage and beats you unconscious [16:29] that's close enough to the truth for me ;-) [16:29] remember Sun Microsystem's browser written entirely in java? Hotjava or something like that [16:29] hmm rings a bell [16:30] Pig_Pen: yeah, it was HotJava...funny thing, the first version didn't support applets [16:30] lol, a java browser that did not support java applets [16:30] only sun could come up with that one - dear guys that they are [16:30] Pig_Pen: it's true, it was like a version of mosaic written in java [16:30] Scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:32] akSeya (i=c915a27b@gateway/web/freenode/x-ubkgnvungcgognkr) joined ##slackware. [16:33] nyRednek: nope. still freezes firefox [16:33] yah, I remember hotjava, I used to have to use it on solaris 7 machines for long enough to download netscape [16:33] jerware: maybe you should try debugging it...apparently it throws some code that firefox doesn't like [16:33] Urchlay, useful then :-) [16:33] Urchlay: hotjava wasn't THAT bad [16:34] dive: solaris coming with wget would have been more useful (and later versions do, don't they?) [16:34] seamonkey doesn't like either [16:34] can't recall [16:34] how do you debug an applet ? [16:34] nyRednek: I never got to use it on hardware beefy enough to make it anything but painful [16:35] (my sparc machines were throwaways and hand-me-downs) [16:35] Urchlay: understand, but once you have enough memory, it worked well enough [16:35] I only delved into OSOL for a few minutes [16:35] dive: open solaris != solaris [16:35] yeah but I'm cheap [16:35] s/cheap/poor or whatever [16:36] dive: they cut the balls out of solaris 10 and released open solaris [16:36] ah well [16:36] dive: right there with ya. Even when I wasn't poor, I had cheap habits from being poor for so long [16:36] dive: you can get a personal use license for solaris 10 for free [16:36] nyRednek, I didn't know that at all [16:37] Action: dive hmmms [16:37] can someone help me get my Broadcom BCM4310 chipset? [16:37] dive: yeah, sun will give you a personal use license [16:37] my first sun sparc machine already had solaris 7 installed on it when I found it in the dumpster :) [16:37] might be an idea look into it again, but only for a vm [16:37] dive: now if you're about to install a server, they'll happily charge you for a server license [16:37] I certainly won't be buying hw for it [16:37] vbox for me [16:38] dive: solaris 10 runs on intel hardware [16:38] ny that's good then [16:38] dive: they filled the gap that sco left behind when they hired more lawyers than developers [16:38] honestly, solaris on intel hardware isn't that interesting to me (if for some reason I don't want to use Slackware, would rather go with one of the BSDs) [16:39] hmmm, wondering how destructive it'd be to slackpkg upgrade a 10.2 box to 11 [16:39] Necos: have fun with that... [16:39] Urchlay, yeah that's true but I've been trying out various OS's for learning point of view (and hopefully to help with finding work) [16:39] lol how bad can it get? :P [16:39] tried a lot of distros, fbsd, osol etc [16:40] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:40] RobDob (n=rpedrica@dsl-145-72-220.telkomadsl.co.za) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:40] Urchlay: i used to admin a sco box...last thing i did for the company i admin'ed it for--migrated it to a licensed copy of solaris [16:40] Necos, you lack inspiration - go 10.2 to 13.0 or -current - that'll keep you busy ;-P [16:41] akSeya (i=c915a27b@gateway/web/freenode/x-ubkgnvungcgognkr) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [16:41] dive: yeah, learning is always good. also, at one time, I used to keep vmware installs of a bunch of different x86 OSes to make sure various bits of code would compile/run on them [16:41] code I was writing or modifying, I mean... was a learning experience of its own [16:41] i could just manually upgrade the packages i need by rebuilding them (it's only the gtk stuff that i need [16:42] ) [16:42] Necos, what about things like moving from hotplug to udev etc? [16:42] not necessary [16:42] macius (n=macius@i209-195-75-92.cia.com) left irc: "leaving" [16:43] Necos: you ought to be able to upgrade from 10.2 to 11.0 via upgradepkg --install-new *.tgz in each package dir... I dunno about using slackpkg for the same [16:43] i just need new gtk packages to build the new version of finch [16:43] or so it seems [16:43] I vote for building your own 10.2 gtk packages from 11.0 source [16:43] Necos: you're still using 10.2? [16:43] Necos, I would upgrade slackpkg first manually, then do the upgrade [16:44] on one of my boxes, yeah [16:44] hey, 10.2 is a damn fine version of slackware, I used it long after 11 and 12 came out [16:44] Necos, I recall slackpkg got a lot smarter around post 11.0 [16:44] 10.2 is very stable, and runs very well on my p3-650 :) [16:44] yeah same was no problem with 10.2 [16:45] very stable I recall [16:45] 10.2 and 12.2 seem to be the sweet spots for non-2.6 kernels [16:45] Urchlay: speaking of milestones, 4.0 was another one of those that was a fine version...that i didn't upgrade from until 10.2 [16:45] what can be called in a regular java program that can't in an applet [16:46] jerware: anything to do with files. Also java applets can only open sockets to the server they came from [16:46] hello [16:46] has anyone tried to recover data (file) on an ntfs system ? [16:46] macius (n=macius@i209-195-75-92.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:46] Urchlay: that isn't entirely true [16:46] what kind of data? [16:47] nyRednek: yeah, I stuck with 4.0 for a long time on one box (and ran 7.0 on a different one) [16:47] there's something similar to undelete for ntfs filesystems [16:47] 8.1 was interesting :P [16:47] Urchlay: you can feed the applet through a download link in the browser, to save files [16:47] nyRednek: it's a gross oversimplification, partly because I can't remember anything more detailed :) [16:47] the same with an html upload link [16:47] ok, I either never knew that or completely forgot it.... [16:48] Urchlay: should i remove calls to System.out ? [16:49] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [16:49] jerware: yeah, system.out doesn't work in applets [16:49] jerware: yes [16:49] thanx fellaz [16:50] Urchlay: more or less use javascript to interface with applet [16:50] Urchlay: to lay cookies, to save and load files [16:50] Urchlay: it's a hack, but it works [16:50] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:51] I barely ever touched applet programming, pretty much all my java days were spent writing servlets and the occasional CLI java program for testing [16:51] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:52] did it help? [16:52] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] I mean for work etc? [16:52] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:52] what? java? I sure wouldn't have done it for fun... [16:52] Urchlay: at one point, i bought into the idea of java everything [16:52] I keep seeing vacancies for java, .net, asp bleah [16:53] was a case of "get the job, find out they use java, start learning java *real* fast" [16:53] well, java is nice to bean counters [16:53] Urchlay: actually alpha tested a java operating system at one point [16:53] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) left irc: "Leaving" [16:53] my first years' worth of code at that job was pretty bad, but not as bad as 90% of their existing codebase! [16:53] Urchlay: the java vm was almost at kernel level [16:53] haha [16:53] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:54] nyRednek: that's either interesting or scary [16:54] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:55] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:81) joined ##slackware. [16:55] hmmmm... [16:56] I once saw a project where they were trying to rewrite all the standard UNIX tools in perl [16:56] wonder if alienBOB has tried to build the new version of pidgin [16:56] Urchlay, what kind of sick bastard was that? [16:56] Necos, the one in -current? [16:57] I dunno, it was a while ago. I wasn't really interested in it, ran across it while trying to figure out how to do something a little more useful in perl [16:57] thrice`, alienBOB typically builds -current stuff on older versions of slack [16:59] Necos, got a slackbuild for latest: http://www.unrealize.co.uk/slackbuilds [16:59] macius (n=macius@i209-195-75-92.cia.com) left irc: "leaving" [17:01] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-206-242.telecable.es) left irc: "Leaving." [17:01] Urchlay: it was bad enough that it demanded java drivers [17:01] nyRednek: using JNI so they could do direct hardware access in C and/or asm? [17:02] actually I think the idea of a Java OS sicker than rewriting unix tools in Perl [17:02] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host81-152-206-196.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:02] Necos, but, what prevents you from doing it? :) [17:02] Urchlay: it was a sun-produced os, i think java was the native interface on it [17:03] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [17:03] thrice`, i'm going to build it myself, but i'm building for 10.2, so... [17:03] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [17:03] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:03] nyRednek: as in, the CPU ran java bytecode as-is? [17:03] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:03] Necos, latest pidgin slackbuild I have: http://www.unrealize.co.uk/slackbuilds/13.0/pidgin-2.6.5/ [17:04] Urchlay: the kernel translated to bytecode [17:04] Necos, and if you want v&v there are scripts for the needed extra packages [17:04] bytecode lacks I/O instructions (e.g. the x86 IN, OUT, INB, OUTB, etc) [17:05] v&v? [17:05] voice and video [17:05] although we have had mixed success with it... [17:05] oh voice and video [17:06] lol [17:06] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-59.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:06] `oobe` (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [17:06] `oobe` (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:06] Urchlay: i misstated [17:06] sorry, i'm doing like 4 things at once at my desk [17:06] Urchlay: i meant the kernel translated the bytecode to binary as needed [17:07] I thought bytecode was binary? [17:07] ergh, yeah, because having a compiler in the kernel is such a performance booster [17:07] xsamurai (n=fahad@69.43.199.101) left irc: "Leaving." [17:07] nv4Phil (n=phil@adsl-179-55-6.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:08] Urchlay: tbh, the system wasn't that slow [17:08] Urchlay: it wasn't slow at all [17:09] Urchlay: the problem, convincing device manufacturers to code for yet another platform...particularly, a platform that was easily decompiled and the source viewed [17:10] Urchlay: and convincing application houses of the same...to translate millions of lines of code to work with a new niche platform [17:10] Urchlay: it's the same reason the bebox didn't survive [17:10] why do my apps hog sound from eachother, in kde4 (slack 13)? I didn't have this problem in kde35... [17:10] the bebox basically didn't survive because it wasn't "PC-compatible" [17:11] macius (n=root@i209-195-75-92.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:11] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:11] macius kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [17:11] apple was lucky the mac survived [17:11] Hey Rucker|Howey [17:11] what are we talking - asm? [17:11] is bytecode the same as (what used to be called) machine code? [17:11] err, you know [17:12] nice load of lag [17:12] dive: not really. Java bytecode is basically machine code for the java virtual machine (yes, there's a java assembler you can use to write bytecode without compiling it from java source) [17:12] Urchlay: apple had a 3 year headstart on ibm [17:12] hey, barbarians|nationwide [17:12] macius (n=macius@i209-195-75-92.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:12] haha, nice one. [17:13] nyRednek: so many platforms back then that were nicer than the PCs of the time period... remember the Amiga? [17:13] Urchlay: yeah, i remember it [17:13] >.> [17:13] Urchlay, so bytecode for java doesn't work at machine level? That's kind of what I was getting at. x86 programming and all [17:13] Urchlay: apple survived by marketing heavy to schools [17:14] and now schools buy pcs... how... ironic.. [17:14] dive: there's something called "jazelle" [17:14] Drakevr (n=drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:14] Necos: but artists typically buy macs [17:14] dive: yep, you got it... though at one time there were plans to build a CPU that executes java bytecode directly (can't remember if such a thing ever was built though) [17:14] akSeya (i=c915a27b@gateway/web/freenode/x-mqqgthvouvjwaytm) joined ##slackware. [17:15] sadly, macs are PCs now [17:15] Urchlay: the plans were for a bios jvmf [17:15] Urchlay: it's called jazelle :P [17:15] jvm, even [17:15] apples are now the "mercedes" of computing [17:15] Urchlay: not all of them [17:15] luxury item no one really "needs" :P [17:15] pprkut, that name sounds a lot worse than java lol [17:15] well macs are/were the de facto for anyone in the graphics industry [17:15] haha, true [17:15] you still see jobs going with mac experience [17:15] no idea if it works, but it's used in the ARM platform [17:16] macius (n=macius@i209-195-75-92.cia.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:16] freebse (n=freebse@ip-77-24-140-66.web.vodafone.de) joined ##slackware. [17:16] that would explain the javafx mobile platform coming to life(after buying another operating system) [17:17] hi there... i'm trying yo install slackware on my external HD.. i found linux-live.org but it requires aufs kernel module... since I must recompile my kernel, i downloaded latest version, BUT.. there is no aufs on 2.6.32.6 nor in 2.6.29.6 [17:17] nyRednek: apple's not still making powerpc macs unless I've missed something (entirely possible) [17:17] I like Sun and all, but I wish Java would just sink in the sea somewhere tbh [17:17] Urchlay: i was under the impression that they were still producing powermacs for the high end machines [17:17] they're x86 now [17:18] [U-Neeks] (i=u-neeks@201-34-235-190.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:18] not high end desktops... I haven't really paid attention to apple's server stuff (XServe I think they call it) but I thought those were x86 too now [17:18] dive: you want it to sink so you can dive after it?!? [17:18] u-neeks_ (i=u-neeks@201-34-235-190.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:18] :D [17:19] no I want it to sink with a loop of rope accidently attached to your leg ;-) [17:19] lol [17:19] i don't like java either... [17:19] well, it IS a good marketing plan... [17:20] not a good technical idea [17:21] I don't mean to repeat my question, dunno if anyone saw it... was wondering why I would have sound conflicts between applications... the guys in #kde say that in kde4 they changed to letting the OS handle sound, and got rid of arts...so.... I figured I would try to see if you guys knew anything, maybe. I'm tired of closing my apps and restarting them, to get sound, because they each want to be selfish and grab exclusive sound privilege [17:21] s. [17:21] akSeya, don't undertand your problem - you want to install slackware (which version) and why doesn't the plain install disk install to ext hdd? [17:21] consider...if macs are technically indiscernable from pc's...macos has a new market(generic pc's) [17:22] and macos is cheaper than windows, so... [17:22] dive: i have slackware 13.0 installed on an external USB HD.. [17:22] nv4Phil, does your soundcard support hardware mixing? [17:22] but i guess there is something more I have to do so it can boot properly on any machine [17:23] dive: I'm unsure. It's a Dell Inspiron 1501 laptop. [17:23] i mean.. it will not work "out of the box" on evey machine.. booting from USB... [17:23] to tell the truth, i'm only able to boot it on virtualbox for now [17:23] freebse (n=freebse@ip-77-24-140-66.web.vodafone.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:23] nv4Phil: might want to set up dmix as default plugin in ~/.asoundrc [17:23] butterball (i=ad080fba@gateway/web/freenode/x-bjmzdwlhdjbvqazy) left irc: Client Quit [17:23] nyRednek, except that since apple uses macos to subsidize their hardware, they're not going to win out against generic pcs [17:23] tsonev_ (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:24] Necos: they'd have to move away from the hardware business [17:24] they can't :) [17:24] ardya: man: no manual entry for .asoundrc ... and I don't have a ~/.asoundrc already created. so I suppose I'll ask Google real quick [17:24] they're too entrenched already [17:25] their macbooks will always be, but you know... [17:26] dive: i mean... root device may change from each machine.. it can be sda on one machine, sdb on another.. so I need it to work as a live USB distro.. [17:26] akSeya: slax [17:26] nyRednek: i thought about it.. but.. slack will not suit my needs [17:26] nv4Phil: http://linpaste.efnet-linux.com:8080/171 [17:26] i want a full slackware 13 environment [17:27] Then make your own [17:27] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:27] I need to enable 'record' in X11, I gather that this means I need to recompile X11. I'm wondering if this seems a bad thing to run regularly as because it seems to me a security risk to do so regularly and if there is perhaps a way to have two compilations of X11 on my system and run the record enabled version only when I need it. Also can anyone refer me to some documentation that might be helpful in this process? [17:27] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] akSeya, difficult I think, but you have read the README on usb installations I guess or you wouldn't have got this far. I'm out of answers for that one personally.. [17:27] Making a livecd is easy [17:27] thaaaaaaats what i'm saying... but.. for that I need aufs module on kernel 2.6.32.6 [17:28] it will not be a liveCD, will be a live USB [17:28] ardya: thanks for the paste. what if anything needs to be restarted after adding the file? [17:28] Euthanatos: no, just add the extensoin to xorg.conf, restart X [17:28] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) joined ##slackware. [17:29] nv4Phil: it'll have ot be edited, I doubt your sound card is hw:1 and card1 [17:29] nv4Phil: restart your sound apps [17:29] bummer... where would I find that information [17:29] Euthanatos, why do you think that, out of curiosity? [17:29] ardya, hmm perhaps the documentation for xnee is outdated. it said for xorg distrobutions of X11 I would need to recompile X11. [17:29] I'll look into that thank you [17:29] nv4Phil: assume fr now you're hw:0, its the default for single sound card systems [17:29] How do I install lxde on Slackware? [17:30] ok. [17:30] thrice`, just seemed something that would be exploitable if a system was otherwise compirmised [17:30] a Live CD and a Live USB drive are the same thing [17:30] kind of like a keylogger? [17:30] Euthanatos, what you mean, "recompile for record?" [17:30] straterra: well..do you suggest any other procedure instead of linux-live.org ? [17:30] Nope [17:31] Use their scripts [17:32] hum.. and how about the aufs kernel module.. it's not on kernel 2.6.29.6 nor in kernel 2.6.32.6 [17:32] Patch [17:32] thrice`, http://itupw056.itu.chalmers.se/xnee/doc/xnee.html#SEC118 [17:32] ardya: did ok between firefox and audacious until I played a youtube clip. [17:32] you restarted firefox [17:32] ‘When starting Xnee I am informed that I am missing the RECORD extension’ [17:33] duh my bad hang on. [17:33] Euthanatos: just add the extensoin to xorg.conf, restart X [17:33] Euthanatos, that's fine - it's not critical [17:33] Yes thank you ardya I'm looking into doing that =) was just answering thrice` question [17:34] thank you thrice` [17:34] ardya: after restarting firefox, I still have the same problem. running the youtube clip (or presumably if I were to run any other audio in firefox) kills audio off of any other app [17:35] i'm not able to find aufs patch for 2.6.32.6 [17:35] will look harder.. ;) [17:36] akSeya, but what will you boot upo with to tell the system to boot sda/b/c etc? [17:36] techwonder (n=techwond@c-76-25-159-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:36] if you get my drift [17:37] nv4Phil: pastebin your .asoundrc [17:37] http://www.pastebin.ca/1765795 [17:38] dive: i think syslinux with the linux-live scripts handle it... [17:39] dive: the scripts take care of it [17:40] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [17:41] nv4Phil: pcm.dsp1 should be pcm.dsp0 or pcm.dsp [17:41] ardya: ok let's try that [17:42] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [17:42] nv4Phil: also, if that fails, restart X and retry [17:42] ok [17:42] macius (n=macius@i209-195-86-132.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:43] Scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [17:44] sigh... ok, restarting... [17:44] nv4Phil (n=phil@adsl-179-55-6.bna.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:45] Euthanatos (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:46] Euthanatos (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [17:46] right [17:46] nv4Phil (n=phil@adsl-179-55-6.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:47] that made a difference because now I have no sound in audacious or firefox [17:48] do you have OSS compat sound modules loaded? [17:48] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:48] I don't remember how to check for that [17:48] modprobe? [17:48] and did you try both pcm.dsp and pcm.dsp0 ? [17:49] lsmod [17:49] I do have oss stuff loaded in lsmod [17:50] can someone please help me get my BCM4312 wireless card working? [17:50] trying the other setting brb [17:50] nv4Phil (n=phil@adsl-179-55-6.bna.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:52] anyone?> [17:52] nv4Phil (n=phil@adsl-179-55-6.bna.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:53] now my sound works again but we're back to square one, youtube kills every other apps ability to run sound, permanently, until firefox is killed and the others are restarted [17:54] hmmm dunno then, mv that .asound to something else and research dmix, sorry I cant help further [17:54] that's ok... thanks for your time. [17:55] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:55] I don't even have a .asoundrc [17:55] users dont by default [17:55] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] alsactl stores its setting in /etc and root has to run it [17:57] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:58] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:58] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [17:59] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:59] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-75-224.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [17:59] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) joined ##slackware. [18:00] .soundrc only useful for sw mixing and sometimes even that doesn't work [18:00] .asoundrc even [18:00] yes, dmix is the alsa sw mixer [18:00] and it works [18:01] sometimes [18:01] always has for me [18:02] straterra: i found the patch from the git repositorie ;) hope it works :P [18:02] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-75-224.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:02] well I tried to get it to work so flite (+alsa patch) would play synchronos sounds but no luck for me [18:02] and afaik this soundcard has hw mixing [18:03] so probably flite is foobarred [18:03] then you should be able tp direct various inputs to various outputs [18:03] or the patch is, but I don't know any alsa programming [18:03] *Sigh* I can't find anything on this 'record' extension. i don't have it. Everything I've found on it is very archaic forum discussions that don't have any reference to getting the extension itself. it almost seems as if it is a deprecated function of X11 that's been phased out years ago [18:04] Euthanatos, why do you think you need it? I asked you that an hour ago :> [18:04] xnee [18:04] desktop recording? [18:04] xnee specifically requires the record extension? [18:04] I'm trying to record some macros [18:04] yes [18:06] ok, I find that weird, but you're the expert [18:06] Euthanatos: librecord.so [18:07] errr [18:07] Euthanatos: locate librecord.so [18:07] what would that do? [18:07] I'm certainly no expert =) It's jsut what the documentation...and error outputs, of xnee says [18:07] huh. [18:07] slackware doesnt ship it [18:07] hahahah [18:08] Euthanatos, can you paste the entire error? [18:08] yes [18:08] ardya, that's because a shared library called "librecord" doesn't exist. where did you get the idea it did? [18:08] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so [18:08] from that. [18:08] like I said. slackware doesnt ship it. [18:09] ah, I see [18:09] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/RDrcCU21.html [18:09] the relevant error is at the bottom [18:09] I just c/ped the entire terminal output not sure what is relevant [18:09] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:10] hi heres my problem: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/slackware-linux-help/159072-slackware-13-bcm431-wireless-chipset.html#post755986 [18:10] any ideas? [18:10] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-227-217-190.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.219) left irc: [18:11] ardya, is there a way to add the library? [18:11] or would that involve recompiling X11...lol [18:11] recompiling X11 wont' do anything. sounds as though xnee is old ? [18:12] no...last update was last month [18:12] 24-dec [18:13] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-171.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:15] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] Hey guys, I gotta quick question. I just installed the new slack64 with kde 4 and I actually got compiz working but I need to add a small script to execute when x starts but I cant for the life of me figure out how to do it. [18:16] hmm...okay I'm gonna try running it on an ubuntu liveCD, xnee seems to love debian i see so much about it's supported packages ~.^ [18:16] bbl with reports, thanks for all your help guys =) [18:16] Euthanatos (n=chunk@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:17] Will this, including having /etc/rc.d/rc.ip_forward +x, get wlan0 to pass information to eth0 ? [18:17] iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE [18:17] try it and see [18:18] I did, but I'm not sure what it's done. [18:18] StonedSlacker: What video card? [18:18] fico (n=ficofico@host60-142-dynamic.45-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:18] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:18] PHughes (n=Stazer@cpe-68-174-76-6.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:19] fico (n=ficofico@host60-142-dynamic.45-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [18:19] adamk:Nvidia geforce 7300gt [18:19] StonedSlacker: Create a script called compiz-kde-launcher that has this line: 'compiz --replace --ignore-desktop-hints --loose-binding ccp &' [18:19] fusion-icon! [18:19] StonedSlacker: Then, in systemsetti --> default applications --> window manager, select "Compiz custom" [18:19] heh [18:20] Agiofws (n=nnnnnAgi@athedsl-427750.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:20] StonedSlacker: And then make that script executable and place it somewhere in your $PATH. [18:20] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:20] fusion-icon will work, but the plasma pager has issues if you start compiz *after* KDE starts. [18:20] adamk: Thanks, I'll try that [18:20] no more need to set KDEWIN? [18:21] jerware (n=RahmboDe@70.44.195.123.res-cmts.brd2.ptd.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:21] StonedSlacker: In fact, simply selecting "compiz" without even creating the script, might work. [18:21] ardya: No, KDE has a configuration option now to select the default window manager. [18:21] Now that I got here by using a static IP, I take it the recent dhcpcd update in -current is faux pas. [18:22] StonedSlacker, you can run scripts in kde4 via the system settings - advanced - autostart apps [18:22] so err, did anyone ask that guy whether he wanted keyboard macro recs or some sort of desktop recording? [18:22] cos I couldn't figure it out [18:22] Channel flood from dive -- kicking [18:22] xnee is probably from 1997 [18:22] dive kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [18:22] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [18:22] "oops" [18:22] wow good lag tonight [18:22] Spitfire (n=Spitfire@201.80.117.139) joined ##slackware. [18:23] if the docs told him he needed the record extension in xorg, then thats what it needed [18:24] Reticenti (n=reticent@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:24] that doesn't discount my conclusion ;-) [18:24] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:25] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:26] your conclusion is irrelevant since you havent confirmed any facts [18:26] since he knew what he was asking for, and found that slackware couldnt support the need, that about sums this up [18:27] yeah you're probably right [18:28] I'm surprised extensions are missing in xorg, but oh well [18:29] so did he want keyboard macro recording or some sort of desktop recording? [18:29] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:29] maybe its time for an alternative to X11, something less troublesome and better compatability and graphical acceleration with a wider variety of video chips [18:29] because there are a few ways to do keyboard macros using xkboard and some others I think [18:30] Pig_Pen: suggestions/recommendations? [18:30] Pig_Pen, it will always be nice for alternatives [18:30] If something like that existed, we wouldn't be having this discussion :-) [18:30] graphics can be a big job though [18:30] dont ask me i am just a flunky that gets paid by the hour [18:31] framebuffer everything :) [18:31] Besides, replacing Xorg is not going to suddenly create more developers of video drivers, or get more specifications released. [18:33] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:33] which is the main shedload of work [18:34] sQuEE (n=narya@190.31.135.217) joined ##slackware. [18:35] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-75-224.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [18:35] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:36] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-171.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:37] Xorg is the alternative, you could have xfree86 [18:37] Ewww. [18:37] i have rolled my own xfree86 on 12.2 just last summer and it actually ran pretty damn good [18:37] we do have xfree86 [18:38] grep xfree86 /var/log/packages/* [18:39] xfree86 is xorg's daddy [18:39] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-171.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:41] forks ftw [18:41] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-171.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:41] spoons, to get every drop [18:41] i think something fell though the tines of the fork when they forked it [18:42] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:42] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-171.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:43] hmm yeah the power [18:44] i should have kept that 12.2 install with xfree86 in place, but i had an itch for 13 when it was released so it got wiped, now i wished i made a backup of it [18:44] jg71_ (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) joined ##slackware. [18:46] zalost_ (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:46] you'll have to use some header files from the kernel source, limits.h and tweak some gcc file in libexec and if you want gtk apps to run you will have to steal some xorg libs [18:46] macius (n=macius@i209-195-86-132.cia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:47] zownix (n=zownix@www.claudia-goblen.ro) joined ##slackware. [18:47] i probably could not do it again, it was more luck than know-how when i did it [18:48] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-171.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:49] was it that much better? [18:49] suid0 (i=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "Leaving" [18:53] Pig_Pen: Was there some reason you wanted to stick with XFree86? [18:53] Mefached (n=jonathan@c-75-64-148-127.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:53] yeah, it was a little better [18:54] the nvidia driver installed perfect too [18:54] Mefached (n=jonathan@c-75-64-148-127.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:54] but not su much better that i would do it again [18:55] mujahid (n=gabriel@189.120.130.32) joined ##slackware. [18:55] code from 4 years ago is better ? /me rolls eyes [18:55] you mean code gets better with age? [18:56] it gets fatter [18:56] it gets better with updates [18:56] not always dive [18:56] also it starts to smell and needs dentures [18:57] macius (n=macius@i209-195-87-73.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:57] the worst part about being a grampa is you have to sleep with gramma [18:57] i think somethings wrong with the usb installer in current, after the install it shows LILO - Keytable read/checksum error [18:57] Pig_Pen: naah gramma is dead [18:57] :D [18:57] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:57] i also tried download another usbimage from another mirror with the same results [18:58] can anyone find me a tor tutorial for slackware? [18:58] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [18:58] please :D i can only find for arch you see [18:58] no, I'm too lazy to look for you [18:58] i bet if you boot up and check your lilo.conf you might find something wrong in it, a quick edit and run /sbin/lilo could fix that [18:59] boot it with a liveUSB distro like slax or something [19:00] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-171.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:00] oh, this is the usb not booting? not the harddrive install? [19:00] the usb will boot [19:00] and install [19:00] on reboot it gets that error [19:00] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:00] after the install [19:00] anybody?? [19:01] mel0n, use your imagination, the arch linux tutorial will probably work fine [19:01] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:01] Pig_Pen: if i use the older usb image prior to the current one it installs and reboots fine [19:02] I used the usbboot.img to install a new laptop just today, on 64-bit - worked OK here [19:02] i tried 3 times so far [19:02] older image boots [19:02] on 13 current [19:03] 13 and current are different [19:03] sorry [19:03] current i meant [19:03] what i would do is use that slax liveusb thing, boot it in text mode, check lilo.conf & fix if necessary, chroot and run /sbin/lilo [19:03] zalost (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:04] yeah ill do that pigpen [19:05] i also noticed though , that the tds mirror doesnt have the regular documentation like the other mirrors in the usb/pxe installer directory [19:05] like this [19:05] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-current/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [19:06] its missing the readme files [19:06] so i wasnt sure if it was a mirror problem [19:07] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. 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[20:40] cryptic0: cat smallfile >> largefile [20:41] for i in large_files*; do cat small_file >> $i; done [20:42] ananke: thanks. [20:42] GooseYArd: what will the i stand for, for e.g.? [20:43] it'll be the name of each file that matches "large_files*" [20:43] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:44] GooseYArd: so this will be useful, if these files all had similar names, right? [20:44] or you could say: [20:44] for i in file1 file2 file2; do ... [20:44] yah [20:44] ok, and will this syntax go inside a scriptfile? or can be executed by itself at bash prompt [20:44] either [20:45] if you want to test it first, you can say: [20:45] for i in large_files*; do echo "cat small_file >> $i"; done [20:45] and it'll just show you what it would be doing, without doing it [20:46] could I do something like: for i in *html; do cat codefile >> $i; done? 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[21:17] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:17] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:18] i have [21:18] i can't figure it out [21:18] my guess is that it's some abbreviation of a GBP [21:19] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:81) left irc: "Leaving" [21:20] when I try /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd start it tells me permission denied even as root [21:20] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:20] confusid: did you chmod +x [21:20] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [21:20] no i did not [21:20] there ya go.. that is the reason it didnt start on boot. [21:21] peacedog (n=peacedog@pool-71-254-90-58.lyncva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:21] does the x make it an executable? [21:21] DING DING [21:21] did you rtfm? [21:22] all that is in the slackware howtos [21:22] k [21:22] jabuti (n=jabuti@201009192083.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [21:22] ##slackware is a lot more apt to tell people to RTFM than #ubuntu. I like it here. [21:23] Slackware has a Portage port, doesn't it? Does anyone here use it? How well does it work? [21:23] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@20158144151.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:24] Mefached: stfw [21:24] peas portage hot, peas portage cold, peas portage in the pot nine days old [21:24] ananke, what? [21:24] Mefached, no portage! slackbuilds.org is a nice resource for build scripts [21:25] Mefached: i thought you like that. [21:25] Pig_Pen: I think thats PORAGE [21:25] without the T [21:25] i know [21:25] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [21:25] 'porridge' [21:25] Bah [21:25] Mefached (n=jonathan@c-75-64-148-127.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:25] Still no T [21:26] porkage [21:26] its a hot cerial like cream of wheat or bulgar (yucky stuff) [21:26] I like cream o wheat [21:26] bulgur [21:27] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:28] i like cerial cold and crunchy even with cold milk [21:28] raisin bran is my favorite [21:28] 'cereal' [21:29] my spell checker is broken [21:29] Action: ananke doesn't believe in those [21:31] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-5-22.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-119-77.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] heya,folks [21:32] hey MLanden. [21:32] BP{k}: heya [21:34] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-23-163.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.78.190) left irc: Connection timed out [21:36] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-235-27.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[21:54] tavl (n=tavl@189.70.164.156) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:55] Anyone know when and why Mesa was added to Slackware13.0 /patches? I can't find it here http://www.slackware.com/lists/archive/list.php?l=slackware-security&y=2009 [21:55] illovae (n=C-18@unaffiliated/illovae) joined ##slackware. [21:56] maliaros (n=maliaros@84.38.6.235) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:56] macius (n=macius@i209-195-113-35.cia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:59] pupit (n=p@109.93.234.170) left irc: "Leaving." [21:59] pupit (n=p@109.93.234.170) joined ##slackware. [22:02] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:02] peacedog, it's mentioned in the changelog(Sat Sep 19 17:16:06 CDT 2009) ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt if you're referring to mesa-7.5.1 [22:03] Yes, that's what I was looking for. Thanks, I was looking for it in the mailing lists. ;-) [22:03] slackwarebob (n=bobby@adsl-99-184-159-184.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:05] Sorry, I spoke too quick. That's not it. It's been upgraded in /patches to mesa-7.5.1-2.txz [22:05] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:07] peacedog, sorry..dunno..you could check alienbob's blog for info [22:07] Thanks, will check there. [22:08] np [22:09] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:10] peacedog, are you using intel for graphics? [22:10] yes [22:10] macius (n=macius@i209-195-113-240.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:10] Mine is working fine though. With no xorg.conf file. [22:11] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:13] peacedog, ok [22:13] <|Slacker|> I have intel graphics here and it works great too [22:13] heya MLanden, how's it going? [22:14] heya,fire|bird...goin' awesome for the evening thanks...yourself? [22:14] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@20158132101.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [22:14] MLanden: great, thanks. Had a blizzard here today. :) [22:15] fire|bird, so I saw by the news...Iowa,Minnesota and the Dakotas,right? [22:15] I was amazed, I just logged in and did a startx and it started right up! Had to fiddle with my x11_synaptics.fdi file a bit to get the touchpad like I wanted, but other than that, just works! [22:15] MLanden: yeah, it was bad. [22:18] fire|bird, sorry to hear...ya doin' 'aright? [22:18] MLanden: oh yeah, all is well here, just staying inside where's it's warm. :) [22:19] fire|bird, tried weechat...not too bad [22:19] MLanden: cool, it's something to mess with anyway, I like it, so far. Also, upgraded to kde 4.3.95 today (KDE 4.4 rc2) [22:20] fire|bird, on slack? [22:20] MLanden: nah, my openSUSE drive, it's such a beast to build. :P [22:21] lol...had to ask..:) [22:22] MLanden: I've been keeping up with 4.4's cycle, even I won't attempt building KDE that much/often, I think my cpu would melt. :P [22:23] fire|bird, true...I know the feelin' [22:24] MLanden: If I had a faster machine, maybe I'd attempt it, I have used icecream to distribute the build, which does make a nice difference, but it's still a beast. [22:25] fire|bird, yeah,it is....hopefully,when xfce goes 4.8....that'll run smooth [22:26] MLanden: yeah, that will be great when that is released. [22:28] fire|bird, what do you think of google's alternate web engine they're usin'? [22:28] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:29] MLanden: not bad, no complaints anyway, yet. :) how about you? [22:29] tavl_ (n=tavl@189.70.228.112) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:29] fire|bird, like everything...something to get used to [22:30] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:31] lol...looks like with links -g..it doesn't really matter [22:32] peacedog (n=peacedog@pool-71-254-90-58.lyncva.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:33] rune (n=rune@179.80-202-108.nextgentel.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:35] macius (n=macius@i209-195-113-240.cia.com) left irc: "leaving" [22:37] u-neeks_ (i=u-neeks@201-34-235-190.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:37] [U-Neeks] (i=u-neeks@201-34-235-190.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:37] MLanden, if links -g had between session cookies and form saves it would be the best text browser [22:38] but sadly lacks [22:39] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [22:40] dive, true [22:42] Hello People [22:42] hello person [22:44] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:45] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:45] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [22:46] castle` (n=james@99-11-196-244.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:48] How do I hide my hostname from the router? [22:49] which router? [22:49] a 2wire router [22:49] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.169.221) joined ##slackware. [22:49] i have a bunch of computers connected and its kind of spammy [22:49] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:50] as in fills up the screen.. [22:50] I only want to show my desktops [22:50] not all the laptops [22:50] huh? [22:50] Action: ananke has no clue what redtricycle is talking about [22:51] like, if you go tohttp://homeportal [22:51] you'll see "Connected computers" [22:51] and it'll have like ALL your cell phones, laptops, desktops show up in that list [22:51] like ok. so like and? [22:51] and I want to show only the desktops [22:52] so what does that have to do with slackware? [22:52] does your cell phone run slackware? [22:52] Maybe there's a netconfig setting that doesnt respond with request-hostname? [22:52] That's slackware related? [22:52] ananke: nevermind, then. from your answer, i suppose there's no way to do it [22:53] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:54] i can imagine this being an issue with hundreds, of maybe even dozens of machines. anyway, not having a hostname is likely still going to result in an entry showing up in that interface [22:55] as to not sending the hostname, slackware uses dhcpcd client. -h option will take care of what you want [22:55] ah, thanks ananke [22:56] I hope you're not using dhcpcd in -current as it appears to be broken. [22:56] 13.0 [22:56] for me [22:57] what's wrong with dhcpcd? [22:57] huh? [22:58] It doesn't give my wired interface eth0, something about unknown otpion (yes, that's how it displays). [22:58] (avid viewers will note that 'huh?' is my stock response for the past 5 minutes? [22:58] a raw "dhcpcd eth0," or through rc.inet1 ? [22:58] I tried both. [22:58] promise? :) [22:59] gm152, I get some errors like that for my wifi but it still works [22:59] macius (n=macius@i209-195-73-125.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [22:59] dhcpcd -d eth0 is a good way to debug it [22:59] # dhcpcd -N -h maincomputer eth0 [22:59] dhcpcd: unknown otpion `-h' [22:59] # [23:00] ok, and: dhcpcd eth0 (as asked?) [23:00] tavl (n=tavl@189.70.228.112) joined ##slackware. [23:00] "dhcpcd -t 20 -h your_host eth0" should be enough [23:01] That seems to work but the rc.inet1 script will call the -h if there's a hostname configured in the conf file? [23:01] do you have an rc.inet1.new by chance? [23:01] Which will then fail with unknown otpion -h [23:01] well if -h works with the raw command then it seems to work [23:02] better look into your conf [23:02] /sbin/dhcpcd -t 20 -h thinkpad wlan0 is on my -current setup [23:02] Hmm, I do have *.new files. I'll merge them. [23:03] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [23:04] I've not noticed any difference in -current from 13.0 or so with networking [23:04] stupid kde icons :< [23:04] well, the new dhcpcd is a little different, but the config has been updated appropriately [23:05] I see there's a new inet1 [23:05] distrust (n=distrust@69-165-157-207.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:05] but the conf still works (for wifi anyway) [23:05] not tried wired yet [23:05] watch kde4 run on a T21 :) [23:06] Stik_ (n=Don@c-76-104-165-86.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:06] Stik (n=Don@c-76-104-165-86.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:07] tavl (n=tavl@189.70.228.112) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:07] poetic momemt there sorry [23:08] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: "No Ping reply in 180 seconds." [23:09] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] all I need do next is tape up my netgear card to stop the flashing [23:09] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] silly leds are too distracing [23:10] The -N switch is not supported with the dhcpcd version in -current. [23:11] dive,it's not hypnotizing you..is it? http://www.iansmith.co.uk/image/blog/November2007/JungleBook_2.jpg [23:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:12] MLanden, lol nah it's in the kitchen and not booted at this moment [23:12] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-173-095-153-076.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:13] LITesterB (i=nobody@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:13] I run current on it cos let's face it if current runs on a T21 it ought to run on my other boxen [23:13] dive,cool [23:14] gm152, there was an updated conf and/or rc.wireless that takes out the -N switch [23:14] months ago [23:14] iirc [23:16] LITesterB (i=nobody@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:17] and if it was a different switch I remain ignorant [23:18] It has more to do with rc.inet1 being changed because of the newer dhcpcd as thrice` mentioned earlier. I think the new release of dhcpcd dropped the -N switch. [23:18] LITesterB (i=nobody@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:19] LITesterB (i=nobody@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:19] crn_ (n=crn@mail.netunix.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:20] yeah there is a new inet1 [23:20] but there was a switch dropped from rc.wireless sometime ago too [23:20] LITesterB (i=nobody@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [23:21] I remember finding it a shile back [23:21] while even [23:22] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-235-27.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:22] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-235-27.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:31] macius (n=macius@i209-195-73-125.cia.com) left irc: "leaving" [23:31] gm152_ (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:32] gm152_ (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:34] gm152_ (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] In the generic kernel, it seems both the older ata driver for intel chipsets (piix or whatnot) is built in, as well as the newer ata driver that works through the scsi subsystem. Without compiling a new kernel, can I prefer one over the other? [23:34] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [23:34] gm152_ (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:35] gm152_ (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:35] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Client Quit [23:38] ...google-chrome with a SOCKS5 proxy: how do I do it? [23:38] I tried the environmental variable 'http_proxy' [23:38] Is an http proxy not the same as a socks proxy? [23:39] redtricycle, tsocks is a wrapper I've used successfully. [23:39] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [23:40] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [23:41] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:44] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:48] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-235-27.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:48] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: "just to eat" [23:49] diven (n=diven@cpe-72-183-235-27.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:50] where is the directory where sbopkg unpacks source code and tries to build? i want to see what configure options are available for a package [23:51] fhobia: by default /tmp/SBo [23:51] oh, duh...thats cause all the SlackBuilds do that huh ? [23:52] yes [23:52] zalost (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:52] at least the ones from SBo [23:53] Is kvm supported in slackware? [23:55] kvm? [23:55] kernal virtual machine... [23:55] Ah [23:56] nm.. found it :) [23:57] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:59] pireau (i=1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [00:00] --- Tue Jan 26 2010