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[02:09] what vlc 1.1.0 features? [02:10] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: Night [02:10] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [02:11] looking at the list from ffmpeg..faster h.264 and aac decoding http://www.ffmpeg.org/releases/ffmpeg-0.6.changelog [02:11] gniks (~sking@24.238.12.206) joined ##slackware. [02:11] ah ok [02:11] hey, since you're a vlc user i can ask you [02:11] mancha, what? [02:12] back when i played with vlc it woudl sometimes screw up with embedded video (when it was embedded in te UI) [02:12] has that been fixed in 1.1.0 or is that still an issue? the symptom would be audio and a black screen (no video) [02:13] what's was the codec of the embedded video? [02:13] any video codec [02:13] when the video windows is embedded in the UI it is black [02:14] you never get black video screens or scratchy audio? it always plays perfectly well? [02:15] sounds more like as a video output problem than a video codec problem [02:15] oh there was also a problem with audio loss if you would seek to a different spot in the video [02:15] till it would sync again or summit [02:15] these are all the reasons i stopped playing with it [02:16] i know what ya mean, mancha..no, i've gotten some black screens with embedded video as well...theora embedded a few times [02:16] SlidingHorn (~SlidingHo@cpe-76-189-165-41.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:16] MLanden ah ok, so its not just me and not entirely fixed in 1.1.0. they still have some bugs to work out i guess... [02:17] SlidingHorn (SlidingHo@cpe-76-189-165-41.neo.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:17] SlidingHorn (~SlidingHo@cpe-76-189-165-41.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:17] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-220.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:18] [3]nertia (3nertia@shellium/member/-3nertia) joined ##slackware. [02:18] mancha, the only thing I could say is track down the codec of that particular video and "try" to update to see if firefox's new OOPP hooks it and corrects it or if it stalls [02:19] [3]nertia (3nertia@shellium/member/-3nertia) left ##slackware ("Never More!"). [02:19] why firefox, do you mean to use the vlc mozilla plugin? [02:21] mancha, right,correct ..just thought of firefox for the testing [02:21] i know it was vlc though, the same codecs were find with other players. [02:21] anyways, sounds like it's still a bit buggy so i won't dl 1.1.0 and build :) [02:21] find=fine [02:22] MrZhi (mrzhi@one.does.not.simply.walk.into.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [02:23] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [02:26] is the zen kernel safe to use? anyone uses it? [02:27] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.73.68) joined ##slackware. [02:31] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [02:31] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.33.3.98) joined ##slackware. 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[03:08] oh =P [03:08] morning all o/ [03:08] morning phrag [03:08] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:09] Action: phrag reaches for the number 6 coffee [03:09] hm yeah coffee.. [03:10] crocket it #slackbuilds. still trying. [03:10] ? [03:11] trying to get stuff into the main repo because he needs an upgraded version of a lib in order to run some 3rd party stuff [03:11] :p [03:11] among other things [03:11] just compile it, hehe [03:12] hell, i emailed Patrick about vimrc being incorrect as according ot the developers, and he didn't even acknowledge me :\ [03:12] I've had him both ignore me and run some extra tests on problems I've reported. just depends on what it is [03:12] gniks: he gets a lot of reports =P [03:12] i know :p [03:13] i talk to him about other things, lol [03:13] like kernel devel stuff [03:13] phrag: check this, cops and robbers shoot-out yesterday in my street, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGRCQYZJJzU [03:13] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:13] ooh! [03:13] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.155.125.29) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [03:13] gnicks: I feel he acknowledges only those who actually/practically help/contribute. [03:14] for the most part - especially if he doesn't know you [03:14] nater1 (~Owner@71.89.114.58) joined ##slackware. [03:14] tewmten: gezellig, a'dam ?> [03:14] ja hoor [03:14] no shit :P [03:14] west-side [03:15] it was actually a practical help and contribution& many people (n00bs) complain that 1) vi is symlinked to elvis and that when they do get vim they have to use shift to copy stuff properly [03:15] de baarsjes [03:15] hehe [03:15] it would have fixed a long time complaint :p [03:16] sbs` (~mfd@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:16] tewmten: klinkt als een fijne buurt :P [03:17] yeah [03:17] real nice [03:21] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Quit: /etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start [03:22] nater1 (~Owner@71.89.114.58) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[03:33] uhhuh [03:33] i can still release it [03:33] Nick change: nater1 -> nater [03:33] gniks (~sking@24.238.12.206) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [03:33] there we go [03:35] i'm pretty stoked... i should be getting my slackware machine back next week [03:37] http://gizmodo.com/5572227/fuuuuuu-gizmodos-first-accidentally-dropped-iphone [03:37] heh, that is a FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU if I ever read one [03:37] shatters his new iphone wilst trying to replicate the signal flaw test [03:39] sbs` (~sbs`@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [03:41] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [03:42] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [03:45] sbs` (~sbs`@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:55] why the hell would they put glass on a mobile phone? [03:55] people drop those things all the time [03:55] (LCD panels have been made of glass forever) [03:56] not the ones I buy [03:56] glass lcd panels are too expensive for the wife [03:57] I'm talking about hte panel itself, not the stuff they build around it. That's always been glass afaik. [03:58] so am I [03:58] the bezel? [03:58] Has anyone used `biosdisk'? Does it work well? [03:58] i thought most color displays for phones these days where TFT [03:59] tewmten: TFT is a form of LCD [03:59] ah [03:59] whatever, the glass they shattered in the article isn't even the glass on the display [03:59] it's the glass on the back of the handheld [03:59] why there is even glass there i can not understand [04:00] There's also a layer of glass over the panel as well I believe. Apple's cinema displays do something similar. It's usually plastic. [04:00] glass looks nice and shiny and it doesn't scratch like plastic does [04:01] but using it for something that people drop all the time? that doesn't sound like something a sane person would do [04:01] and it's nice and smooth [04:01] depends on the ceramics used - looks like they didn't use the good stuff [04:01] brainvision (~brainvisi@host102-158-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [04:02] mako-sama: The glass they make the panel substrates from is/was tough stuff to break without serious effort [04:02] frankendres (~frank@151.179.83-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [04:02] if you look at the patterns of broken glass, you'd see that they didn't even use tempered glass [04:02] Hi everybody ! [04:02] frankendres: Hi. [04:04] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:04] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:06] I've seen a couple of sites run the story that guy was testing, why does it seem to be holding it in the left hand that seems to trigger the reception issue, is it just a lot of left handed people writing the stories? o_O [04:07] Steve, why in the HELL would you put glass on a phone that people drop all the time, are you crazy? "Not crazy, it's a feature that transforms each dropped iPhone into a unique Art Deco piece and we think it's fantastic. -Steve Sent from iPad" [04:11] http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band <- I hold the phone more like the picture on the right than the one on the left anyway (only in my right hand), is that more because I'm right handed? [04:12] I typically keep mine in the belt clip and use a bluetooth earpiece [04:12] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [04:14] When they make a bluetooth headset that doesn't make you look like a schizophrenic douche, I'll consider that :P [04:14] brainvision (~brainvisi@host153-147-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:17] he forgot to add "...and then get beat up" [04:17] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D824.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:25] tommcd (~tom@c-71-225-138-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:27] sIRC (~sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) joined ##slackware. [04:27] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [04:28] Unable to get sound to work from the AC97 sound card, (fresh 13.1 64bit install) [04:31] I do not see that any files are being modified after running alsaconf [04:33] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [04:36] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:ec83:aa0c:72f2) joined ##slackware. [04:37] brainvision (~brainvisi@host153-147-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:37] A_Milis (~A.Milis@213.238.5.10) joined ##slackware. [04:40] :q [04:40] yeh, that doesnt work in irssi =P [04:41] tewmten: nice vid [04:41] hi. I've just install Slack 13.01 and have a question. How can I run Xneur. it was installed from binary package.. I can run it from console, but I need it in X. [04:42] sIRC (~sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) left irc: Quit: sIRC [04:45] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [04:45] I can not play sound from X. (I can from console, but not in X). What could be causing this? [04:46] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [04:46] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [04:47] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:47] terry moar details [04:48] ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0' [04:48] ALSA lib conf.c:4154:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory [04:48] more details as in same user inconsole and in X? what apps do you try to use in each? etc [04:49] A_Milis: where did you get the package from? [04:49] I did it in console same user and no errors [04:49] mancha: iirc you pinged me last night? [04:49] using app.: play [04:50] alienBOB, yes, i was going to ask you (as resident VLC expert) if some of the bugs i used to frown about with vlc have been cured [04:50] with all the vlc chat i'm getting interested in giving it another shot [04:50] terry: did someone already suggest that you should add yourself to the "audio" group if you want to have sound in runlevel 4 ? [04:50] O..... [04:50] mancha: without specifixsmy answer would be "a lot of bugs have been fixed" ... [04:51] Best would be to grab a new VLC and give it a run [04:51] The 1.1.0 release is pretty nice [04:51] ok, my major ones were video sometimes not working (only when you have the setting be embedded in the UI) and also sound taking a while to sync back up when you seek (with scroll bar) in a video [04:51] those were my major peeves, iirc [04:52] brainvision (~brainvisi@host13-74-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:52] i have always wondered which of all those stuff bundled with vlc are non optional. lets find out [04:52] alienBOB: Thank you. [04:52] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [04:52] mancha: embedded video has seen numerous fixes [04:53] raela (1000@cpe-67-249-207-123.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:53] ah ok! sounds good. [04:53] raela (1000@cpe-67-249-207-123.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:53] Sound buffer may be your problem with fast seeks, I have no idea if _that_ has been changed [04:54] sahko: a lot of what I bundle in VLC is optional, but ffmpeg is essential [04:54] yeah the ffmpeg dependency is annoying on many stuff [04:54] fwiw xine-lib is dropping it from future releases so i hope Pat will include it in Slackware [04:55] But even then, you can build VLC with an external ffmpeg already installed, which furtehr decreases the package size [04:55] seems only [04:55] : http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/linuxpackages/Slackware-12.0-i386/X11/Xneur/ here =) [04:55] libdvbpsi is mandatory* [04:55] However, ffmpeg upgrades are notorious for breaking other multimedia packages.... Ubuntu is riddled with that kind of issues [04:56] yes ffmpeg has had some important changes that broke things [04:56] A_Milis: that is a 3rd party package, we can not support that. Most likely the packager forgot to add a menu entry to the package. Try to contact him [04:56] at one point they moved the headers from ffmpeg/blah to libavcodec/blah or something [04:56] and its for 12.0 not 13.1 [04:56] mancha: exactly [04:57] That is the reason I add a static ffmpeg to VLC. Xine, handbrake, avidemux, do the same [04:57] and on that subject, 0.6 (ffmpeg) is out as of a week or two ago [04:58] Yes, I added that version to VLC 1.1.0 [04:59] alienBOB: what do you mean? when I'm trying to "start" it I have it in console-mode only. [04:59] how do you use vlc to stream a video on-demand? can you? [04:59] A_Milis: that package is for 12.0 not 13.1 [04:59] You can, there are directions on the videolan Wiki [04:59] their instructions are hard to follow for me, i am lost with their syntax [04:59] Hehe [05:00] for example, with rtsp they have two ips, dst= and rst= [05:00] or maybe dst= and sdp= [05:01] sahko: but I guess it is not a big difference.. or it's not? [05:01] i dont know what xneur actually is, but my guess is theres major differences [05:02] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [05:03] aquaman (~aquaman@unaffiliated/alinux) joined ##slackware. [05:04] alien, thanks. i might give 1.1.0 a shot this weekend - if i get the energy. [05:05] mancha: link? [05:05] aquaman (~aquaman@unaffiliated/alinux) left irc: Client Quit [05:06] jrodger (~jrodger@27.32.19.10) joined ##slackware. [05:07] sahko: hmmm.... trying source-archive... =) [05:07] Hi alienBOB; did You look at Slackware-Live ? [05:08] skillZ (~skillz@modemcable092.144-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:08] alison, link for? [05:09] streaming where you had a question about dst= and rst= [05:09] Hi frankendres did you change your nick? [05:09] Nick change: frankendres -> LJS [05:09] Ah [05:09] alienBOB: sorry [05:10] I looked at your scripts indeed (the 0.1 version). Looks nice [05:10] I have tried it with slackware and zenwalk [05:10] I only wondered why you do some binary patching of the MBR - is that still required to get your live CD to boot? [05:11] alisonken1noc hrmm, i'd have to dig it up, it's been a whilesince i looked at that stuff... [05:11] binary patching of the MBR ? [05:11] wait, maybe I have left a command I had for ext2linux [05:12] mancha, was curious because I setup a shoutcast setup for a college professor a few years ago and need to jog my memory on a few things [05:12] hmm VLC seems to have an ncurses interface too. nice [05:13] alisonken1noc ah ok. i'm not the right person to ask, i've not done much of that. i played a bit with streaming over http once but that was centuries ago [05:13] alienBOB: I don't understand where I have patched the MBR. it is not needed with syslinux (it was with ext2linux) [05:14] mancha: setup channel1 output #rtp{access=udp,mux=ts,dst=224.255.1.1,port=1234,sdp=sap,sap,group="Video",name="2007 Movie"} <-- was that what you were wondering about? [05:14] alienBOB: maybe You think to "dd if=/dev/zero of=$installdevice bs=1 seek=446 count=64" [05:14] LJS: this: echo -e ',0\n,0\n,0\n,,83,*' | sfdisk $installdevice [05:15] Well it is not binary patching... [05:15] the dst= is the multicast output port [05:15] rtp is real-time protocol [05:16] alienBOB: ok, this is to optimize / fix (depending your USB device size) the mkdiskimage command: [05:16] I'm guessing the sdp has something to do with the multicast as well [05:16] mancha probably was talking about the sdp (description file) you can specify with a rtsp sream [05:17] or as alienBOB notes, the rtp config file for that stream :) [05:17] alienBOB: I limit mkdiskimage to create a partition of one sector (for great speed improvment), then I fix the sectors count with sfdisk [05:17] Aha :-) [05:18] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) left irc: Quit: leaving [05:21] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:31] Herman (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:33] Has anyone used `biosdisk'? Does it work well? [05:34] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [05:35] Any trick to getting vlc-mozplugin-1.1.0-x86_64-1alien.txz to work? [05:35] vlc-1.1.0-x86_64-1alien.txz works fine but... [05:35] not the mozplugin [05:35] does firefox load the plugin? [05:36] I don't know.. doesn't seem to [05:36] type this in firefox ulr space "about:plugins" [05:36] trying it on http://viewers.multicastmedia.com/asx_files/EWTN_Channel55_English_DomesticEnglish_500k.asx and just leaves me with a blank screen saying done [05:36] that'll give you a list of currently loaded plugins [05:36] s/loaded/available [05:37] Nick change: motzmo -> motzi [05:37] Well, it says "VLC Multimedia Plug-in" at the top as a heading... [05:38] Nick change: motzi -> gordon [05:38] Nick change: gordon -> gordon_f [05:38] and I suppose there are MIME types associated with it. right? [05:38] terry: interesting - it plays in xine [05:39] I see: application/x-vlc-plugin VLC plug-in [05:39] And: application/x-google-vlc-plugin Google VLC plug-in [05:39] and suffixes? [05:39] alisonken1noc: Maybe I should switch to xine [05:40] I don't like embedded video so I don't install those plugins [05:40] I just clicked on the link, firefox asked if I wanted to play it using xine, click yes [05:41] but then, I don't have vlc player plugin installed either [05:41] Yea, it plays in gxine.. but it also plays in vlc too, but just that the mozilla plugin does not work. [05:41] Maybe I'll just try to un-install the vlc plugin. [05:42] check your .xsession-errors [05:43] or start ff from cli and see what errors pop up as well [05:43] Nick change: gordon_f -> motzmo [05:44] http://dickensurl.com/ec36/The_dignity_of_his_office_is_never_impaired_by_the_absence_of_efforts_on_his_part_to_maintain_it [05:44] dickensurl doesnt seem to shorten url links in general. heh [05:44] oh it does http://dickensurl.com/ec36 [05:44] but not that fun [05:45] alisonken1noc: I'll try that. [05:45] motzmo (~x0a@2001:0:53aa:64c:0:ec83:aa0c:72f2) left irc: K-Lined [05:48] aaahhh, it says: "Trying Lua scripts in /usr/share/vlc/lua/meta/reader" and then "no meta reader module matching "any" could be loaded" [05:48] /usr/share/vlc/lua/meta/reader: No such file or directory [05:49] /usr/share/vlc/lua/meta/: No such file or directory [05:52] google it [06:04] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [06:06] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:07] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.114.195.133) joined ##slackware. [06:12] sunzu (~sunzu@pD9ED36CD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:16] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:18] sunaffabitch [06:21] solar_sea (solar@85.14.14.82) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [06:23] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [06:26] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [06:27] terry (~terry@74.113.242.5) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [06:32] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:32] tommcd (~tom@c-71-225-138-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:35] is there any video editing app for linux? [06:36] i've googled and found cinelerra [06:36] but seems it's somewhat outdated [06:36] theres kdenlive, pitivi [06:37] which has more features? [06:37] bosth (~ben@88.234.90.23) joined ##slackware. [06:38] try them [06:38] asamoah (~caio@190.244.49.108) joined ##slackware. [06:39] kdenlive is in SB, so first choice [06:39] A_Milis (~A.Milis@213.238.5.10) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:39] pitivi probably needs gnome [06:39] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [06:40] sahko: ok, thanks [06:41] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Client Quit [06:42] actually it doesnt need gnome. its pygtk [06:42] grazymax (~grazymax@host133-163-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:47] sleekslack (~umislack@58.64.89.177) joined ##slackware. [06:49] Traveler (~traveler@host126-221-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:51] Traveler (~traveler@host126-221-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [06:53] LJS (frank@151.179.83-79.rev.gaoland.net) left ##slackware. [06:55] vdv: there's also openshot and kino [06:55] and avidemux for basic stuff [06:56] pprkut: now trying to build kdenlive :) [06:56] InspectorCluseau (~Inspector@64.238.225.4) joined ##slackware. [06:56] pprkut: if that won't solve the task, next try will be kino [06:57] then pitivi and openshot [06:57] IMHO, kdenlive or openshot are your best shot [06:57] all others have less functionality afaik [06:58] except for cinelerra, which is a monster [06:58] and appears abandoned [06:58] pprkut: that's good, because gathering all deps of kdenlive costs now me some time :) [06:58] hmm, there was another as wel...jakasha? jashaka? [06:58] nickstolen (~tevoda@mmocafe.net) joined ##slackware. [06:59] interesting, that first app that google showed was cinelerra [06:59] tommcd (~tom@c-71-225-138-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:00] oh, god, i need definetly some package manager :( [07:00] pkgsrc :P [07:00] try sbopkg for stuff in SBo [07:00] xtr3m3 (~xtr3m3@87-194-25-59.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:00] yes, sbopkg is that's what i need [07:01] because i mostly use SB stuff [07:01] i dont see how another 'package manager' is gonna help you if you need stuff not in sbo anyway [07:01] oh, also, blender does video editing [07:01] mmm whats that tool again for easy building SBo [07:02] sbopkg [07:02] from sbopkg.org [07:02] nix_chix0r (~mrspwn@168-103-63-242.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:03] no [07:03] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:03] sorry for making SB packages I meant [07:03] you mean a slackbuild generator? [07:03] trhodes: I would not consider blender a video editor [07:04] dive yes can't recall the name anymore [07:04] nickstolen, there are a few - I make one called mkslack [07:04] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:04] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-202-021.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:04] mmm there was a recent article about one. [07:04] http://www.dawoodfall.net/slackbuilds/noversion/mkslack/ [07:04] mine is called "cp"... [07:05] pprkut: mine is called use source ... I see how that is relevant [07:05] pprkut: http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Manual/Sequencer [07:06] nickstolen, article where? [07:06] nickstolen: perhaps this one : http://slackware.com/~alien/AST [07:07] trhodes: interesting, but still not what I would consider a video editor :) [07:07] oh, i'm so happy, that gsm has no deps! :) [07:07] why would you need that? [07:07] pprkut: well, it does most of what i expect out of one [07:07] dive linuxdocs or something similiar [07:08] pprkut: although i wouldn't go installing blender just for that one feature [07:08] alienBOB oh that actually looks pretty simple and nice,.. [07:09] trhodes: well, I never tried it, so I might missunderstand the description [07:09] nickstolen: just try it, see if it meets your requirements [07:09] There's 3 different templates to choose from [07:10] alienBOB : just what vdv said reminded me I wanted to test one specifically but can't remember who made it and what it is called. [07:10] XD [07:11] Thanks for the link thou will test at home. [07:11] mine is a cli tool and uses the standard sbo templates. [07:11] pprkut: there's this which is more helpful: http://www.straightedgelinux.com/videoBlender/ and some video of the same, which i haven't rediscovered [07:12] also makes the .info and doinst.sh [07:13] trhodes: ok, this looks more like it :) [07:13] akhe (~akhe@0x573fa156.ronqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [07:13] brainvision (~brainvisi@host13-74-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:15] oh god! kdenlive needs kde4! rrrr [07:16] asarch (~asarch@187.132.133.59) joined ##slackware. [07:17] have totally vergessen that the only thing which i always keep in mind with slackbuilds and 13.0, is that downgraded kde3 [07:17] *totally forgot [07:18] oh, i write awful texts [07:18] it's ok, it fits the awful kde3 ;) [07:20] pprkut: but kde4 doesn't fit my laptop :) [07:20] pprkut: my laptop begins to moan when runs kde4 [07:24] it all depens on what features you demand from it :) [07:24] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [07:25] asarch (~asarch@187.132.133.59) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:25] asarch (~asarch@187.132.133.59) joined ##slackware. [07:26] sleekslack (umislack@58.64.89.177) left ##slackware. [07:31] vdv: are you german? [07:31] akira42: actually not, but i speak german at the moment [07:32] ah, k - gut zu wissen [07:33] karuna (~karuna@dsl-239-38.melsa.net.id) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:33] Roin (~florian@p5B2BE8E5.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:33] akira42: und du? whois sagt das du in USA bist, deshalb vermutlich auch nur deutschsprachige, oder? [07:34] vdv: ich bin in Deutschland, eigentlich [07:34] akira42: ups :) Fail [07:34] hehe [07:35] akira42: hab angaben falsch interpretiert [07:35] *cough* english *cough* [07:35] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [07:36] pprkut: okay, okay ;P [07:36] if i want to create several subdirs in a dir isn't following right syntax? mkdir somedir{dir1, dir2} ? [07:36] :) [07:36] pprkut: sorry :) [07:36] Tabmow (terry@freenode/staff/tabmow) left irc: Ping timeout: 615 seconds [07:36] heh, I don't mind really, but there are also non-German speakers here ;) [07:37] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.114.195.133) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [07:37] vdv: that will create the directories somedirdir1 and somedirdir2 in your actually directory [07:37] and what's the syntax to achieve what i need? [07:38] vdv: looks fine [07:38] to create couple of subdirs in some dir with one mkdir command [07:38] It misses the slash vdv [07:38] vdv: mkdir somedir/{dir1,dir2}, IIRC [07:38] That is correct [07:39] And like akira42 showed, there must be NO spaces surrounding the comma [07:39] ah, jetzt works, thanks [07:39] the problem was with space [07:40] vdv: if you want spaces in the name (for what ever reason) you just need to surround the name with the spaces with parantheses [07:41] hm quick question. lets say i wanna store information of each customer i have, e.g: what they bought, what they did, when, and make it easy for non-IT-savvy people to update the records, how do i go about it in linux? [07:42] how many customers and homw many transactions? typically this is a msyql/postgresql type setup [07:42] also, how do you want to access it? web interface or custom program? [07:42] alisonken1noc, so what actually do i need to search up on? nothing much just 10-20 customers a day [07:42] there's already several setups available if you want to dig [07:42] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [07:43] alisonken1noc, i wanna set up a linux pc in the shop, where the employees can access and update it [07:43] physical access too, non-internet [07:43] Action: akira42 would just use an table with openoffice, if there are not much records [07:43] would be hard to sort through past data in a spreadsheet, though [07:43] spreadsheets can only go so big before they're unwieldy [07:43] yeah, after a while, sifting through 1000 records can be a pain [07:43] stu_: SQLite. [07:44] Mel-nix, the main question would be "how do they access the records" - sqlite is just the backend [07:44] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.149.233) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [07:44] like via a webpage interface? and no - you don't need internet access to make a local network setup like that [07:44] i don't mind if its simple and spartan, it just has to be useful. e.g: i can type 'aliso' and it'll show all the alisons, or malisoins, etc. then after bringing up the customer, i can see when they came, what they did, what they bought. just that [07:46] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.188.225) joined ##slackware. [07:47] stu_: A bash(1) script? A curses-based application? A simple, command-line application? [07:48] bosth (~ben@88.234.90.23) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [07:51] xtr3m3 (~xtr3m3@87-194-25-59.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:56] iceheart (0@120.195.172.184) joined ##slackware. [07:56] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:56] iceheart kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Using IRC as root is dangerous. Please reference "Using IRC as root" via google for further information. [08:00] bosth (~ben@88.234.90.23) joined ##slackware. [08:00] Mel-nix, yeah i think i kinda saw something like that once. a bash-like program (i think it was dos) with several fields to insert, date, name, number, history [08:00] where do i go for stuff like that? my friend needs record keeping really badly [08:01] and i'm not gonna let him get swindled by unnecessary windows solutions, and their costs. [08:02] he has tried wordpad, lol, and lets just say it wasn't as effective as expected [08:06] stu, you're looking for a customer database [08:06] search sourceforge using those terms or something similar [08:11] Skywise, thanks [08:11] opsss (~user@213.149.138.60) left irc: [08:13] a sales contact database would also work [08:14] Elektro_ (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. 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[08:34] pretty embarassing question, but i can't seem to find a way to create shortcut on KDE's desktop [08:34] tellico is a collection manager =] [08:34] stu_, add the folder view plasmoid [08:34] or set the plasma desktop to the folder view mode [08:35] oh? i'll check [08:35] I wonder when iceheart will learn [08:35] why would you want a shortcut (sic!) on the desktop? theres a menu for launchers. [08:35] tellico is a collection manager but it works for keeping records of all kinds of stuff :) [08:36] slava_dp: ah, to be like windows, of course. [08:36] its for the other people in the house who just wanna run firefox [08:36] and have no idea its called firefox [08:36] it's easy to use which is what he wants and you can design your own fields easily [08:37] guax (~guax@189.4.108.113) joined ##slackware. [08:37] guax (~guax@189.4.108.113) left irc: Changing host [08:37] guax (~guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [08:37] i've used it for all kinds of record keeping [08:37] Ephedrax_ (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-117-129.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:38] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-152-1-15-238.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [08:38] it won't help if you need any kinds of calculation functionality though [08:38] unless you export as csv and import into a spreadsheet (which would be pretty easy) [08:39] Nick change: bgs000 -> bgs100 [08:40] stu_, add a launcher to the panel. no need to clutter the desktop with icons. [08:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CjLd9o_Pno&feature=related <-- first tech support [08:43] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [08:43] Elektro_ (~elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:44] i think an icon on the desktop is the most straight forward option for users who don't even know how to right click [08:45] users who don't know how to right click need to be given a course on how to use computers [08:45] or get an apple - one button only :) [08:45] all that does is annoy the user [08:46] I'm proud of my stepdad. a few years ago, he couldn't turn one on. now, he emails and even posted on facebook the other day [08:46] alisonken1noc: that's no longer the case, and hasn't been for a few years [08:47] thankfully, apple abandoned the one button mice [08:47] yeah, they don't physically split the buttons, but there are actually many. [08:47] of course, you tell him to go to a website and he opens bing, types the website name, then goes from there.. but he's bad at spelling, so maybe that is for the best [08:48] yes thats the way i browse as well [08:48] keeps you from getting those typo websites [08:48] lol [08:49] I bet if I'd tell him to google, he'd put google in bing then go.. [08:49] I just type in the url bar.. usually firefox will pull up what I want. unless it's new, I guess [08:49] and google often has direct links to common topics like store locators and downloads [08:49] their mice out still too pricey [08:49] thats doing the same thing [08:49] damn. now how do i add programs to my favourites [08:49] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [08:49] only its searching google for each keystroke [08:49] hi :) [08:50] nah, I mean when it searches my history [08:50] nvm. i'm seriously not used to these things. all i do is alt-f2 command anyways [08:50] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.250) joined ##slackware. [08:51] stu_, favourites? you right click on the program and select "add to favourites" :-) [08:51] stu_, me too, but I re-mapped it to alt+space bar :> much easier [08:52] alt+space is for scim... [08:52] who would've known making shortcuts would be so freakin hard [08:52] oh.. nvm.. you probably don't use that :P [08:52] mako-sama, scim is not installed of course :) [08:54] bloody hell i accidentally removed that widget where if you have pidgin running, it minimizes to the lower right hand corner [08:54] what widget is that? [08:54] notification area? [08:55] nvm found it [08:55] system tray [08:55] akiwla: systray [08:55] and it's a plastmoid!! 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[09:34] Action: NaCl would suggest using alienBOB's packages [09:35] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/ [09:35] Action: NaCl would suggest using alienBOB's (wine) packages [09:36] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [09:36] aww. alien's built 64-bit ones too. any difference to the official ones? [09:37] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) joined ##slackware. [09:38] clicking on those links give me konqueror. how do i change default browser on link clicks? [09:38] stu_, kde system settins has default programs section. [09:39] sweet, thanks [09:40] akira42 (~tetsuo@dslb-088-073-202-021.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:42] Axius (~fd@92.84.10.219) joined ##slackware. [09:42] I do not know what the difference is between my packages and those on winehq. But at least with mine, you can check the SlackBuild and see how it was built [09:43] v4nelle (~van@79.107.207.59) joined ##slackware. [09:44] that is true. and a valid reason to use them too :-) [09:46] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:46] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [09:47] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [09:50] brainvision (~brainvisi@host13-74-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:52] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [09:55] alienBOB, sometimes reading your slackbuilds is just as tough ;) [09:56] alienBOB, and built by someone we trust. [09:56] thrice`: you have to "be the alien"; get into his mind set ;) [09:57] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!0@* expired. [09:57] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!0@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [09:57] sometimes they contain some nice bash magic that requires more studying for me, anyway [09:57] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:57] Never too old to learn new tricks thrice` [09:58] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-156.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:59] yarvin (~yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [09:59] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. [09:59] yo [09:59] u [10:00] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:02] stu_ (~stu@175.137.76.44) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:02] what if the old dog is blind and deaf and arthritic? can it learn new tricks then? [10:02] wouerner (~wouerner@201-88-243-117.bsaco701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:03] go go go Brazil \o/ [10:03] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.11.67.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:04] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [10:04] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [10:05] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:08] bosth (~ben@88.234.90.23) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [10:08] bosth (~ben@88.234.90.23) joined ##slackware. [10:09] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@200.63.199.99) joined ##slackware. [10:09] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: See you later [10:10] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [10:10] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [10:10] It's very difficult to satisfy dependencies for rhythmbox. [10:11] rhythmbox requires gnome-media which in turn requires libnautilus-burn which is hard to find. [10:11] There is no such package as libnautilus-burn. [10:11] It's a tangled set of dependencies. [10:11] didnt i tell you that if you want to use gnome theres a project called gnomeslackbuild the other day? wtf are you still mumbling about? [10:12] I want to bring rhythmbox to slackware. [10:12] if i were an sbo admin id reject all your gnome uploads [10:12] Some GNOME programs compile fine. [10:13] like metacity and rhythmbox? [10:13] haldir (~haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:13] metacity was submitted. [10:13] It only requires libcanberra [10:13] good luck [10:14] hmm [10:14] Amarok is not comfortable to use. [10:15] Yabuu (~quassel@189-55-94-230-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:16] To use rhythmbox in KDE, installing GNOME is not a solution. doing it leads to mixing GNOME and KDE menu entries. [10:17] I really doubt SBo will accept gnome stuff - there's not point, nor is that really the target [10:18] figabo (~figabo@201.164.187.145) joined ##slackware. [10:19] It sems slackbuilds.org applies strict policies. [10:19] Slackware doesnt have policies. thats Debian [10:20] But admins have rules. [10:20] yeah you're required to use your brain [10:20] it just seems strange to have a very large gnome subset on SBo, while it mostly is for a smaller set of extra components, rather than entire desktop environments. especially since such nice gnome projects already exist [10:20] e01 (~OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [10:21] and rhythmbox is the most horrible gnome application along with evolution btw [10:21] ok [10:21] What do you recommend? I was thinking of gmpc. [10:21] although if i try i'll come up with more [10:22] We only have gnome components on slackbuilds.org that are required to run certain apps that need them [10:22] But we would never accept a full set of gnome packages. That is what gnomeslackbuild is for [10:23] crocket, exaile is OK too. [10:24] I want a library media player that can display album arts in the left side of albums. [10:24] i like clemetine, amarok2 feels so bloated [10:24] jomo (~mich@p3EE21088.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. 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[10:44] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:54] haldir: maybe some setting in system settings->advanced->session manager [10:54] haldir: I think you need to make the changes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf [10:55] this is very weird. trying to get konqueror to see flashplugin fails mizerably. its almost feels like it has to be "compiled in" [10:55] i tried even moving .kde and all kde related dotfiles [10:56] and nspluginscan sees it but it never appears in settings nor work [10:56] Axius (~fd@92.84.10.219) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:59] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:00] pnq (asdf@AC814A6C.ipt.aol.com) joined ##slackware. [11:00] kutani (~kutani@cpe-72-177-8-158.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:03] bgeddy (~bgeddy@91.84.218.129) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:03] sahko: thanks. I already had restore previous session marked so that apparently doesn't save that setting. [11:05] i just got an answer back at #kde. it is a known bug that started in 4.2 [11:05] slack_fish (~slack_fis@59.72.110.45) left irc: Quit: ‚» [11:05] denNOLA2 (~dennola@adsl-070-154-176-251.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:05] rhys (~Rhys@66.102.98.217.ip.anet.com) joined ##slackware. [11:07] denNOLA2 (dennola@adsl-070-154-176-251.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) left ##slackware. [11:07] sahko: does flash work in firefox? [11:08] yeah it works [11:08] the problem is that konqueror cant see it for some reason [11:08] rhys (Rhys@66.102.98.217.ip.anet.com) left ##slackware. [11:09] i just checked my konqueror (never use it) and it works here. [11:10] where did you install it [11:10] $HOME/.mozilla/plugins. thats not the problem. like i said nspluginscan sees it [11:11] jomo (~mich@p3EE21088.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:11] bgeddy (~bgeddy@91.84.218.129) joined ##slackware. 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[12:22] notKlaatu, building stuff on 64-bit should be lib64 . *some* things (no-arch, udev, firmware) goes to /lib/ yet [12:22] yes [12:22] ok [12:22] cool [12:22] thanks [12:22] check http://slackbuilds.org/templates/ [12:22] i tried compiling via sbopkg, it failed, and i went straight to do it myself from source. totally failed to just fix the slackbuild script. <- noob [12:23] jg71: cool, thanks, i will read that over [12:23] well, if it gave a useful error, it might be fixable :> [12:23] anything you can do by hand, you can do in a slackbuild [12:23] that would be awesome, thrice` [12:23] oh my :O not what I meant [12:24] Action: jg71 snickers [12:24] facepalm. ok, i'm gonna go fix this. [12:25] notKlaatu, ensure your sbopkg is pointing to 13.1 too ? [12:25] ya, it is, thanks. [12:25] ah, libsamplerate isn't in the 13.1 repo ? [12:25] actually, now that you mention it, that's why libsamplerate -- [12:25] yeah, exactly [12:26] but i can still tweak the slackbuild from sbo.org [12:26] er slackbuild.org you know what i mean [12:26] we usually just say 'sbo' since pretty much everyone here knows that :) [12:26] ja [12:26] tried bumping the version to 0.1.7 ? [12:27] brainvision (~brainvisi@host13-74-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:27] other distros don't seem to do much special in their scripts [12:28] thrice`: yeah, i'm about to do that right now. i think it will work. [12:28] a slackbuild presets some variables (like lib[64]), but other than that it's basically the steps you did to make it compile [12:29] i'm usually lazy and see what others do before delving in too deep :> [12:30] sking (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) joined ##slackware. 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I've run configure but I can't find a makefile [12:39] Mowah, all of the above packages on are slackbuilds.org too [12:39] oh right.. [12:41] brainvision (~brainvisi@host67-75-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:42] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:43] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:43] c [12:44] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [12:44] thx guys I got it to work I think [12:47] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:47] brainvision (~brainvisi@host67-75-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:48] bosth (~ben@88.235.213.0) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:49] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. 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[13:15] sunzu (~sunzu@pD9ED36CD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:19] notKlaatu (~klaatu@209.59.222.239) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:20] fonseg (~bnguyen@58.187.72.110) joined ##slackware. [13:21] brainvision (~brainvisi@host58-15-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:21] what does 'ld' in 'ldconfig' stand for? [13:22] rip fedora 11 [13:22] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:22] LoaDer ? [13:22] ld= GNU Linker? [13:23] and ldconfig is probably the tool to configure linking options me thinks [13:23] the question is what the letters stand for, methinks [13:24] i would put money on l=linker/loader and d=dynamic [13:24] uhm k ._. [13:24] yarvin (~yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Quit: yarvin [13:25] im starting to like fortune [13:25] it makes me laugh :D [13:26] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [13:27] dustybin: It's a wonderful game/utility. [13:27] aye :D [13:31] [1]Snakes (Snakes@79.115.160.28) left ##slackware. [13:32] Jdif (~Jdif@mon75-3-82-67-194-134.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:32] fonseg (~bnguyen@58.187.72.110) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:34] peacenik (~cyberian@142-217-88-107.telebecinternet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [13:35] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:39] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:42] terry_ (~terry@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [13:42] brainvision (~brainvisi@host58-15-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [13:43] I seem to be having a problem trying to set up a HL-5170DN in CUPS 1.4 [13:43] Every time I try to print something it comes out mostly black. [13:44] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.11.67.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:45] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) joined ##slackware. [13:50] Instead of network printer it says socket://192.168.1.4 [13:52] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:54] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:55] crocket (~crocket@121.168.91.143) joined ##slackware. [13:56] Building a package is superior to installing a binary package. When I installed a binary vlc package, some things didn't work. But when I ran the vlc slackbuild script and installed the output, everything worked fine. [13:57] brainvision (~brainvisi@host115-147-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:58] crocket: nonsense [13:58] as usual [13:58] adaptr, nonsense and usual? [13:58] crocket: you probably got a package that didn't have everything built into it [13:58] it was alienBOB's bianry package. [13:58] pvn (~mmaniak@103-38.76-83.cust.bluewin.ch) joined ##slackware. [13:59] zaltekk, Binary packages aren't built with components in my system. and that's why building a package on my machine is always better. [13:59] crocket: that's not "a binary package". you're in ##slackware [13:59] ?? [13:59] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [13:59] please grok the difference [13:59] .txz or .tgz is a compiled binary package. [13:59] this channel is for support of the official distribution [13:59] its binary packages will cooperate [14:00] crocket: depends on how the binary pkg was configured with as apposed to how the slackbuild was configured [14:01] read the slackbuilds for both , make sure the same versions are being used and then you should come to intelligent conclusion [14:01] just because you compiled from source will not give you gentoo l33tness [14:01] For example, libsndfile isn't in slackware by default, and audacious was built without it. I had to install libsndfile from slackbuilds.org and rebuild audacious. [14:01] j0z (unix@189.114.186.205) joined ##slackware. [14:01] j0z (unix@189.114.186.205) left irc: Changing host [14:01] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [14:01] crocket: and ? [14:01] anode (~shouyu@173-162-208-165-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] hey, [14:02] lots of pkgs will have support x,y,z or they might not [14:02] upto the user to decide, i compile pkgs myself when I do and dont want support for x,y,z [14:02] Are we looking at different angles? [14:02] crocket always seems to come in here and state obvious, useless facts [14:02] zaltekk: he's a politician ? [14:02] I came here to share my joy. [14:03] probably because I don't have a slackware friend to share the experience with. [14:03] I'm trying to build the package "q4wine" from slackbuils and running the slackbuild script, it seems to hang on " -- The C compiler identification is GNU " doing nothing else [14:03] what's up with that? [14:03] It seems here is no slackware friend to share the little experiences. [14:03] ? [14:03] awww... the drama [14:04] calm down people there is really no point in flaming ._. [14:04] crocket: where do you live ? [14:04] Maybe I should get a girl friend. [14:04] anode: make sure that the slackbuild is for your version of slackware and that the source you are trying to build matches the version the slackbuild was written for [14:04] Roin: ...wrong channel [14:04] theres no flames here [14:04] xsamurai, living in korea. [14:04] xsamurai: huh? [14:04] zaltekk: have done, double checked [14:05] triple checked [14:05] Mel-nix (1000@117.255.77.159) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:05] xsamurai : Do you remember libhangul, ibus-hangul? [14:05] anode: they you'd either need to fix the slackbuild or contact the author/maintainer [14:05] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:05] zaltekk: what would be wrong with the slackbuild? [14:05] crocket: korea,hmm i'll send jeev to give you a hug [14:06] anode: obviously something if it doesn't work :) [14:06] zaltekk: my question is, "what" [14:06] zaltekk: apparently, I have no idea what may be wrong so I don't know what to look for [14:06] o_o [14:07] anode: I think zaltekk wanted you to contact the maintainer of the slackbuild package [14:08] Yeah, figured.. easier to say "I don't know really" or at least offer a non-sarcastic response [14:08] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:08] Anyways, i'll figure this out later [14:08] thanks :p [14:08] hm? [14:08] anode (shouyu@173-162-208-165-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left ##slackware. [14:08] ElitestFX (~ElitestFX@unaffiliated/elitestfx) joined ##slackware. [14:08] it wasn't sarcastic... 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[15:17] christian (590d7c77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.13.124.119) joined ##slackware. [15:21] fuzzbawl (~fuzzbawl@ppp-69-215-14-126.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [15:22] riza (~riza@unaffiliated/riza) joined ##slackware. [15:22] Hi. [15:27] Action: mosno waves to riza [15:29] Action: riza bows to mosno. [15:32] feinom (feinom@feinom.forcebox.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:32] Slakinit (~quinton@41.123.190.52) joined ##slackware. [15:32] Alabarda (~david@189.11.214.34) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [15:33] Alabarda (~david@189.11.214.34) joined ##slackware. [15:34] do slackware users like using sudo ? [15:34] flrichar (~toril@tor6.geexology.org) left irc: Quit: bbl [15:35] I usually su - in a separate terminal. with optional white on red text [15:35] me to [15:35] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-429633.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Excess Flood [15:36] real men dont use sudo? [15:36] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-429633.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:36] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [15:37] I su as well. [15:37] feinom (feinom@feinom.forcebox.org) joined ##slackware. [15:37] skillZ (~skillz@modemcable092.144-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [15:37] Oh I don't know... [15:37] what's not to like about sudo? [15:37] It's sudo! :) [15:37] sudo is for untrusted sysops [15:38] huh? [15:38] Action: thrice` prefers sudo to su [15:38] me to [15:38] i mean i prefer su [15:39] what does su - do? [15:39] su - [15:39] Let's fite! [15:39] you prefer a command you don't even understand? [15:39] wow [15:39] Action: riza sets up a ring for sudo and su users. [15:39] :P [15:39] Ooh mancha knocks out dustybin. [15:40] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-75-192.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [15:40] sudo reminds me of that distro, whats it called... [15:41] ssussussuicide ? [15:41] LOL [15:42] mosno (~mosno@unaffiliated/mosno) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:42] Alright. I want ot upgrade but I feel so lazy. :| [15:51] ps|cot|co (~pil@187.101.125.252) joined ##slackware. [15:53] do any of you guys quite often browse the web using links or lynx ? [15:54] sinkigobopo (~sinkigobo@unaffiliated/sinkigobopo) joined ##slackware. [15:54] no [15:54] I use wget and read the code [15:54] blimin hek [15:55] yarvin (~yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:55] lol [15:55] That's so sad MrZhi... [15:55] hehehe [15:56] yarvin (~yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:57] yarvin (~yarvin@wsip-98-190-221-99.dc.dc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] arcfide (~arcfide@adsl-99-50-226-166.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:58] Woah, this client actually works! [15:58] Neat-o. [15:59] what are ttyS0 ttyS1 ttyS3 for? [15:59] Urchlay (~dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:31] Grifulkin: well, i haven't slept... but i'm doing well [18:32] that doesn't sound very good lol [18:32] Grifulkin: no, especially since i have a party tonight... oh well :) [18:32] rek (~rek@95.232.173.123) joined ##slackware. [18:33] is there edman [18:35] What kind of party? mosno [18:35] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@cpe-098-026-093-093.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:35] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:35] Grifulkin: a friend's house party [18:35] ahh sounds like fun [18:37] rek, where is the party? [18:40] rek (~rek@95.232.173.123) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:42] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [18:42] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [18:44] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:45] gniks (~sking@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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[19:47] Asmadeus (~asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:48] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [19:51] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [19:52] Asmadeus (~asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [19:53] Someone help bring sanity to whatever I've done wrong here: [19:54] can we make fun of you too? [19:55] I used a spec file to rpmbuild a package (successfully). I then noticed today's security report, one of which was seamonkey. I used pkgtool to remove seamonkey. I now get a libnss3.so error. Only thunderbird, firefox, and seamonkey have that library. This is confirmed by the manifest. However, an ldd of the rpm binary indicates that libnss3.so is a dependency. [19:55] thrice`: I imagine that is inevitable. [19:56] seamonkey-solibs I bet [19:56] (The libnss3.so error is from the RPM tools.) [19:56] thrice`: Yes, I did remove that. RPM depends on it? [19:56] grep libnss3.so /var/log/packages/* | cut -d : -f1 [19:57] yep [19:57] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.81.156) joined ##slackware. [19:57] Action: sinuhe thinks that RPM depending on a seamonkey package is crack smoking. [19:57] well, not seamonkey really [19:57] instead of building against system nss and nspr, pat just uses internal stuff from seamonkey. since things like rpm were building against it, he split those libs out into a separate package [19:59] thrice`: Heh. It is part of the seamonkey.SlackBuild. I still think that's crack smoking, but it seems less so now. Thank you. [20:00] well, Pat could use a separate nss and nspr package and build against those (most distros do this) [20:00] _Strykar (~wakka@122.169.87.225) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [20:00] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [20:00] they are mozilla projects, though. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/nss/ [20:01] johndee (~id@93-81-139-116.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:02] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:05] thrice`: I'm with you now. [20:07] uva (as@111-240-233-192.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:12] isw (~i@static-71-252-134-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:14] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [20:16] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:18] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [20:19] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:20] smoooth (~smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:26] sbsdoze (spookz@CPE0012170da58c-CM00080d961284.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. 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[21:03] Budd^ (~budd@76.252.167.172) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:03] Budd^ (~budd@99.152.132.87) joined ##slackware. [21:04] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@pool-71-104-238-120.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:04] any ideas for a workaround? I'm trying to get exaile (amoungst other things) working and had to update my multilib gcc and glib [21:05] so i did. now i get that [21:05] why would you need to update gcc and glib ? [21:06] because i was getting "glib not new enough" errors when i updated exaile [21:06] i'm trying to get ipod support [21:06] you are trying to compile it as a 32-bit app ? [21:07] fb|jean (champus@unaffiliated/champus) left ##slackware. [21:07] i dunno what i'm doing anymore [21:07] exaile 3.0.2 doesn't have any working plugins [21:07] rebuild pygtk? [21:07] "update exaile fixes that" according to the forums [21:07] neonflux: did that [21:08] are you setting your ARCH variable correctly? [21:08] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:08] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [21:08] eh, yeah. 64bit [21:09] it's a pygtk app, 32-bit stuff (multilib) shouldn't be required or touched at all [21:09] so... [21:10] i used aliens 13.1 glib packages from his multilib howto [21:10] because i've been using his 13.0 for months [21:10] 'glib too old' means the slackware-provided glib isn't new enough [21:10] the problem is all the newer stuff requires newer glib [21:11] mtkoan (~mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:11] Cann0n, what's the error? I signed in after you said what the problem was [21:11] ImportError: /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/_gtk.so: undefined symbol: gtk_action_get_short_label [21:12] mtkoan (~mtkoan@unaffiliated/mtkoan) joined ##slackware. [21:14] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-68-232.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:14] ah [21:14] hi, can i get a firewall rule to block one IP complete? [21:14] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [21:15] in-bound banging on ports [21:15] any ideas? [21:15] Cann0n, did you try anything else, like updating gtk+ or pygtk ? [21:15] yeah [21:15] iptables -A input -s a.b.c.d -j DROP [21:15] tyvm [21:15] thats why i needed to update glib and gcc [21:15] these things are quite important - what did you do :> [21:15] darkrho (~darkrho@190.107.32.55) joined ##slackware. [21:15] no problemo [21:15] Cann0n, ok, I don't care about your multilib whatsoever - it's irrelevant. especially gcc, this is a python app [21:16] well, everytime i don't mention multilib, someone bitches about me not mentioning it [21:16] unless you are setting i486, it shouldn't matter [21:16] always mention multilib, especially as conversation starters [21:17] like when you're on a date [21:17] mancha: it gets me all of the ladies [21:17] Women's lib [21:18] i'm just tired of having to juggle apps to update my ipod [21:18] SunTzu not that order matters, so if that ip gets matched earlier in your firewall the drop might not work, either -I in the right place or -A earlier in your chaining [21:18] Cannon what are you building? [21:18] pygtk isn't an app - but it does relate [21:18] It's strange. Around here the smaller counties are multilib, and the bigger ones just have one lib in the big town. [21:18] i also like having plugins that work [21:19] never said it was an app... [21:19] ganeshix (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:19] pygtk are some gtk bindings for python *barf* [21:19] sorry, i like python, i do i promise! [21:20] i'm trying to do a little bit of updating because i'm tired of having shitty software [21:20] it's not just exaile thats spitting that error. [21:20] Cann0n, which version of glib do you have ? [21:20] it's all gtk apps [21:20] ImportError: /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/_gtk.so: undefined symbol: gtk_action_get_short_label [21:20] glib is unrelated [21:20] 4.4.4 [21:20] really mancha ? his original error is "glib too old" [21:21] thats age discrimination [21:21] glib2-2.18.4-x86_64 [21:21] Cann0n, no, you don't. ls /var/log/packages/glib-* [21:21] ok, so update to 13.1 :> [21:21] thrice`: no, thats why i updated my glib [21:22] it wasn't an error... it w's a requirment [21:22] lol [21:22] was* [21:22] they are the same !! [21:22] it requires a new glib, so it gave you an error [21:22] you need a newer gtk+ not a newer glib2 [21:22] next, it will need a newer GTK [21:22] thrice`: i don't want to do a full upgrade. if you are just going to throw bullshit answers out in the chan, i'll ignore you. [21:22] which means a newer pygtk to support the app [21:22] we need to focus here people [21:22] wax on; wax off [21:22] uh oh, he's gonna /ignore people!!! [21:22] later. [21:23] Cann0n, you are missing the point. it needs a newer GTK stack, including glib, atk, gtk+, and then pygtk [21:23] SunTzu (1000@c-68-56-68-232.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [21:23] one things needs one thing which needs one thing which needs one thing, so and and so forth [21:23] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@pool-71-104-238-120.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:23] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@pool-71-104-238-120.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:23] thrice`: i know. i did all that [21:24] anyhow, it's all good. tgif and stuff. your headache factor would probably be lessened by upgrading to 13.1 [21:24] gotta love crappy old home wirless ap's [21:24] i've been hunting down deps all day [21:24] Cann0n, bullshit, your glib is way old [21:25] lol [21:25] i can't upgrade. i'm on dial-up [21:25] 21:21 Cann0n| thrice`: i know. i did all that [21:25] i'd take 4 months [21:25] yeah by then 14.1 would be out [21:25] and we'd be back to square one [21:25] alisonken1lap: so what would you replace a crappy home wifi with? [21:25] panzer: LESS crappy home wifi? [21:26] panzer, a not-so-crappy home wifi. the kicker is I'm at the church and my home wifi is better than the one here [21:26] rob0: ok give me specs or model numbers. [21:26] thrice`: so then when i said i was using aliens multilib packages, why was it stated that multilib is insignificant to my issue [21:26] good thing I'm looking at a replacement ap for here [21:26] Cann0n: why not have someone ship to a dvd or cd? [21:26] Cann0n, subscriptions do wonders for that :) [21:26] panzer, I run my access point on an ath5k card with hostapd [21:26] rob0: got a moment for a pm? [21:26] Cann0n, do you know what multilib is ? [21:26] panzer: shall i pm you my address? [21:26] yeah, purchasing a dvd from pat isn't against the law, at least not in all 50 states. [21:27] Cann0n: if you are in the us then yea. [21:27] sure [21:27] Cann0n, multilib means you updated a 32-bit version of glib. you are building 64-bit [21:27] I'm tempted to figure out using my ath5k card as an ap and using it to sync files with my other laptop [21:27] sigh... [21:27] ath5k had issues serving as an AP, and a few other things last i heard [21:27] raela: it's pretty easy with recent kernels. [21:27] it's quickly maturing. if you want check out madwifi, their AP mode code is quite mature. [21:27] yeah i just caught that [21:28] the one here t the church is an early model 2.4G d-link [21:28] raela, works wonders :) [21:28] but why wouldn't exaile in 32bit work? [21:28] but don't tell rob0, he'll persecute you [21:28] i dunno thrice`... i'm just gonna call it a day. [21:28] raela, all you need is the hostapd stuff on one laptop and then the standard client tools on the other laptops [21:28] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:28] he'll be all in your face about madwifi, he'll threaten your loved one, piss in your cornflakes, and other things [21:29] Ask the madwifi guys about madwifi v. athXk. :) [21:29] well I guess he did not want me to ship him a dvd then [21:29] well.. this is me, after all ;) I'm a bit.. special. I'll try it, eventually [21:29] he'll stop short of waterboarding though [21:29] mancha, the only reason you would need madwifi now is for bridging [21:29] panzer: he's a bit of an idiot [21:29] raela: thanks for the heads up [21:30] panzer, nice offer though :> [21:30] hey I got plenty of 6x9's and plenty of stamps. I don't mind. [21:32] and well I remember the times I was on dial up. [21:32] I don't like bridging wireless. It just doesn't feel right. I use a separate subnet and route it. [21:33] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [21:33] rob0: seems like the best way [21:35] bridging has it's uses :) [21:36] haha we had that discussion once, didn't we? :) [21:36] yep [21:38] ps|cot|co (~pil@187.101.125.252) left irc: [21:38] i missed it, could you re-enact it for my benefit (and other onlookers)? [21:38] prob been noobfarmed. [21:38] heh [21:39] does ath5k handle injection nicely? [21:41] We just had a miscommunication which resulted in threats to Allison, piss in Ken's cornflakes, and other things ... nothing farmworthy, as it DID stop short of waterboarding. [21:41] catch the channel logs :) [21:41] it was #slackbuilds [21:41] lokii (~bort@pool-96-233-21-242.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:41] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:42] heh, i've seen alison withhold his gpg passphrase after 5 hours of waterboarding [21:42] you couldn't have cracked him rob0 [21:42] Maybe both of us can manage it? [21:43] leave it to, oh, i'll need a roll of duct tape, some elmer's glue, and a dentist drill. [21:43] lokii (~bort@pool-96-233-21-242.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:43] I've spent 4 months at sea with only 400 other guys as company and the closest we got to land was being able to smell the camel dung blowing off the desert [21:43] think it might take a little more than duct tape :) [21:44] you don't know what that would be used for though... [21:44] duct tape can be used to rip the hairs off someone. oh nevermind [21:45] mancha - you should see what bored sailors at sea will do for entertainment :) [21:45] duct tape is one of the most amazing inventions. as amazing as wd-40. i often wonder who would win in a stand-off WD-40 vs. duct tape [21:45] especially when it's time to cross the line. let's just say my left leg was hairless for a while :) [21:47] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [21:47] rob0 i'll leave the dirty work to your capable hands, i have to unfortunately wander off and do much less interesting things now... [21:47] alisonken1lap: so you had to see King Neptune then. [21:47] panzer, yep [21:47] mumble crappy wirless mumble [21:48] mancha: wd-40 is not amazing. Use something that will actually work in say a fan. [21:48] mumble crappy wirless mumble [21:48] or on the track of the glass door. [21:48] alisonken1lap: fix it then [21:49] panzer, in the process of looking for a replacement [21:49] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:49] what the old wrt54gl not good enough anymore? [21:50] they didn't have one [21:50] someone just bought a cheapo d-link [21:50] ok so what are the options other then build your own or crappy home wireless? [21:50] I"m looking at replacements now [21:51] well if you don't need N then I would suggest the wrt4gl [21:51] if I built it - it wouldn't be crappy :) [21:51] wrt54gl (notice the l there) [21:51] my last job was building custom wireless routers [21:51] panzer, yes, I noticed [21:52] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488EF75.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] ooh! cool conversation going on! I've been wanting to turn an old PC into an AP [21:52] ok so what wifi pci card would one buy if they wanted to build a custom wifi router? [21:52] :) [21:52] nowadays the ath[59]k driver with the atheros chip is pretty good [21:53] panzer, definitely *don't* get a Ralink rt61 [21:53] as you don't need bridge mode [21:53] tried it and it doesnt work [21:53] it does work, but its not recommended [21:53] :o [21:53] ok got a model number of something that is recommended? [21:54] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:54] I like the geode boards myself - then you can pick your own mini-pci card for the wrieless [21:54] sahko, well perhaps the distro I tried was too old then (zeroshell) [21:54] ea_suter: usually the problem is with the new distros [21:55] alisonken1lap: yea I was going to do full size machine [21:55] zeroshell wouldn't even recognize the card [21:55] although i dont really know about old, and exactly how old zeroshell is [21:55] goj (~goj@p4FE6B9DC.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [21:55] right... [21:55] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:56] panzer, might be better to find an older small system and look at dd-wrt/x-wrt [21:56] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [21:56] alisonken1lap: yea I know what you mean. [21:57] sitwon (~adam@pool-71-246-200-118.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [21:57] panzer, another option is find an older laptop and get a pcmcia wireless card with an external antenna jack - then you get built-in ups [21:58] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.27.1) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:58] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:58] so what about the very stupid option of PCI or PCIe cards? [21:59] dchmelik (~d@dynamic-66-243-235-236.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:59] stupid is right [21:59] what's stupid about pci cards? [22:00] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.29.193) joined ##slackware. [22:00] ea_suter, pci v. pci-e [22:00] oh, right [22:00] so are there any PCIe wifi cards one could use as routeR? [22:01] not sure - I ended up using a pci-pcmcia adapter card [22:01] and a pcmcia wireless [22:01] ok [22:05] j0z (unix@189.58.13.241.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:05] j0z (unix@189.58.13.241.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [22:05] j0z (unix@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [22:08] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.11.67.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:15] PenPerkInc (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] figabo (~figabo@201.164.157.144) joined ##slackware. [22:18] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:18] asamoah (~caio@190.244.49.108) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:32] mugwort13 (~mugwort13@pool-96-244-230-179.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] juice (1000@67.48.16.165) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:34] anyone know of a slackbuild for sw13.1 of splashy? The most current I found was 12.2 [22:37] did you see if it works? [22:40] not yet, lets see ... [22:45] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:47] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:51] <|Slacker|> how do I enable all the features of compiz in slack 13.1? [22:51] mugwort13 (~mugwort13@pool-96-244-230-179.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:52] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:53] lyminsk (~lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [22:54] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-152-73.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:54] heya,folks [22:55] Attention all hands, alisonken1lap, report to the bridge on the double! [22:57] aye aye [22:57] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [23:02] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.11.67.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [23:02] pnq (asdf@AC828BF3.ipt.aol.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:04] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.11.67.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:04] oh no rob0 called GQ [23:05] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:05] c'mon; chop chop [23:05] hit it like this [23:05] rob0, I'm back. kids kamp weekend, so had some roundups to do :) [23:09] slack-o (~tanis@189.26.6.254.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:09] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.11.67.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Disconnected by services [23:09] mancha, tried rebuilding vlc-mozilla with the updated ffmpeg...think it might be incompatibilty with xulrunner..no errors though [23:09] Nick change: slack-o -> |Slacker| [23:10] MLanden ah, ok. sounds like a complicated problem to resolve...xulrunner's a hefty build. [23:10] mancha, true,it is [23:10] there was major api change between xulrunner 1.9.1.x and 1.9.2 (gecko changed muchly). could this be it? [23:11] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-2-94.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] mancha, might be [23:12] figabo (~figabo@201.164.157.144) left irc: Quit: Computer has gone to sleep [23:13] i forgot, what was the issue you were trying to resolve? [23:13] mancha, you were mentioning the black screen with embedded media and vlc's plugin [23:14] not the plugin, just video embedded in the UI [23:14] i.e. video screen inside the vlc program UI screen [23:16] mancha, ah..ok [23:17] woh3 (will@nv-67-232-145-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [23:18] alisonken1lap, just thought you'd appreciate a bridging joke :) [23:18] heh :) [23:19] gniks (~sking@24.238.12.206) joined ##slackware. [23:28] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.6.254.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:30] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.6.254.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:39] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:40] ZMR (~zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:42] MrZhi (mrzhi@one.does.not.simply.walk.into.shellium.org) left ##slackware. [23:43] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [23:43] figabo (~figabo@201.164.157.144) joined ##slackware. [23:50] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] crocket (crocket@121.168.91.143) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:53] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:53] uSlacker (~gmartin@pool-173-62-249-45.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] mancha: did you eventually install vlc? [23:55] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@pool-71-104-238-120.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:55] seejay (~seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [23:56] sahko i've done so in the past, haven't installed a newish version. [23:56] IrquiM (~irquim@118.84-234-151.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [23:57] i'll wait for more of their bugs to be ironed out i think. [23:57] using alien's script/package? [23:57] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [23:57] no [23:58] i decided its not worth my time. too many external deps aka codecs i dont want to know about [23:58] mplayer works for everything i ever needed it for [23:59] it is hefty indeed and my understanding is it is still a bit broken under the hood on some things - so i'll wait for it to mature a bit more i think. [23:59] and smplayer is a decent frontend for it [23:59] i like gnome-mplayer, myself. [00:00] --- Sat Jun 26 2010