[00:00] :P [00:00] please, please be evil and unlawful with me [00:00] Wanted is next on the list.. I have Taken in my Saved queue.. so when it becomes available.. I'll get that heheh [00:00] like there is anything out there worth ripping [00:00] Cotowar: I'm not ripping them... [00:00] FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) failed. [00:00] Cotowar: I'm making "backups" "just-in-case" [00:00] :( you killed my soul... [00:00] gee, only 11570 patches [00:00] lol [00:00] yay! its alive again [00:01] heh [00:01] hey what if i cant boot too kernel [00:01] blkdg: the module does not match the kernel [00:01] is there a way to get through lilo [00:01] like bypass it [00:01] to logon? [00:01] nope.. gotta have a login manager [00:01] what do i do XGizzmo ? [00:01] cant you use grub? [00:01] either lilo or grub [00:02] you can rescue boot off the install cd/dvd [00:02] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:02] Or if you're really masacistic.. you can try to get ntldr to work :P [00:02] blkdg: build a module for the kernel you are running [00:02] shiat [00:02] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:02] XGizzmo: build your own kernel. from scratch [00:02] its what all the cool kids are doing these days [00:02] anyone here compile the 2.6.29 kernel yet? [00:03] i'am [00:03] but scared to restart [00:03] i mean shutdown [00:03] its got a weird boot logo :S [00:03] lol [00:03] taquito: i was just informed that 2.6.29 has a fair share of bugs such sa eating data on ext4 and several nic drivers are broken [00:03] XGizzmo how? [00:03] that sucks [00:03] wow that would suck [00:04] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:04] my mp3's would be dead [00:04] dtanner: still using ext3 and everything seems to be working fine for me :) [00:05] anyone here use lustre? [00:05] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-8-23.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:05] taquito: then you have good luck with your nic card driver , of course not all of them , they just said " a lot" of nic card drivers are broken, what "a lot" means i duunno , i would rather see exactly which ones are borke, but instead i am just not going to upgrade to that kernel =) [00:06] taquito: its nota weird boot logo [00:06] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-8-23.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] dtanner: "a lot" means the only one that wont work is the one you have [00:06] taquito: let me find the article about that [00:06] Cotowar: indeed [00:06] http://lwn.net/Articles/323966/ [00:06] Read that [00:06] blkdg: let me take a wild guess and say you are not running one of the smp kernels [00:06] explains what that's about [00:06] Dominian: thnx [00:06] i am running hugesmp the [00:07] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 2009-02-08 13:20 vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-huge-smp-2.6.24.5-smp ok thats the old kernel and the new one is -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3535344 2009-03-24 23:43 2.6.29 so when i edit my lilo just put down /boot/ just leave it blank because no file name [00:07] blkdg: uname -a [00:07] wtf [00:07] 2.6.27.7-smp #2 SMP Thu Nov 20 22:32:43 CST 2008 i686 AMD A [00:07] haha funny reason [00:07] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:08] "interesting" would be a better word i guess [00:08] argh.. still pissed that I shipped those last 3 movies back at the same time and only 2 show up as being delivered.. so my wife's next movie.. and my daughter's next movie are already on their way... what a crock! [00:08] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:08] and Wanted is my next DVD to ship! [00:09] XGizzmo is is smp right? [00:09] blkdg: put the output of modinfo fglrx on a pastebin. [00:09] ooo just added Death Race [00:09] yeah thats an smp one [00:09] blkdg: i have 2.6.27.11-generic and its really unstable [00:09] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-247.dial.telus.net) left irc: "SLEEP TIME NAO!" [00:09] if that is of any use to you [00:10] Ecchi`Ranger (i=servantz@server1.bshellz.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] eviljames: are you dead? [00:11] XGizzmo here it is http://pastebin.com/d1b32982b [00:12] Cotowar: pardon? [00:12] someone was talking about unstable kernels, and mine is just that [00:13] blkdg: modprobe fglrx gives you an error? [00:13] oh man... i need to go to bed [00:13] i have nothing to do tomorrow. i cant sleep it all away [00:14] antler: are you still here? [00:14] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-8-23.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:14] i tried insmod let me try again [00:14] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-8-23.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:15] FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) [00:15] thats fom modprobe fglrx [00:15] guess not. night folks [00:15] Peace out Dominian. [00:16] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-74-179.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [00:16] and in the dmesg fglrx: Unknown symbol pci_disable_msi [00:16] and fglrx: Unknown symbol pci_enable_msi [00:16] theres a series of about 6 of them [00:17] blkdg: is that the 9-2 fglrx? [00:17] that's what the installer is called twolf [00:17] blkdg: it looks like it might not support your kernel [00:17] ati-driver-installer-9.2-x86.x86_64.run [00:17] blkdg: thats why I told you you should get 8-12, it will work with your kernel [00:18] i don't see that choice when i punch in my data at the ati site. [00:19] wait [00:19] i see it [00:19] cool [00:19] getting it [00:19] the newest driver will require a recompile of your kernel or a newer kernel [00:20] why wouldn't the installer just, i don't know, have a huge flashing notice that said that when someone tried to run it.... [00:20] whatever. [00:21] ok i take it i should just run it and delete the 9.2 one. [00:23] do the ati driver installers have a --unsinstall switch of some sort ? [00:24] should i do anything else besides go to /usr/share/ati and run the fglrx uninstaller? [00:24] i know nothing about the ati rivers , i always get nvidia chips, but it might have an "uninstall" option, somone in here would know surely. [00:24] hey guys, if i hotplug my usb mice and my xorg wont recognize it (mice is using evdev driver), it means my xorg is not using hal/dbus/udev ?? [00:24] mice works fine having it plugged when xorg starts [00:24] blkdg: I always just run the installer, it will install over an old install [00:25] i just read what you wrote dtanner yeahm theres one in the /usr/share/ati [00:25] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:26] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:26] use that to uninstall it then if uninstalling is what you want [00:26] twolf: how good is the support for ati chips in general nowadays? [00:26] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) joined ##slackware. [00:27] dtanner: I haven't had any problems, I got a dual monitor setup and it pretty much just worked out of the box [00:27] hba (n=hba@189.188.155.4) left irc: "leaving" [00:27] what ati chipset are you using twolf ? [00:27] I got hd4850 [00:27] better yet, how did you know to use 8.12 [00:27] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.144.237) left irc: "leaving" [00:27] and not 9.2 [00:27] just curious , been looking at maybe getting an ati chip next time around [00:28] it is just that the nvidia drivers work so well for me so far. [00:28] blkdg: I had it since before 9.2 came out and it worked, I quickly heard of people with your problem so I didn't try to upgrade [00:28] jiffypop (n=ace@32.176.159.233) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:29] where, theres nothing in linuxquestions about 12.2 and 9.2 not playing nice [00:29] and most other stuff is ubuntu folks [00:29] blkdg: yes there is [00:29] there is a lot about it [00:30] all i remember is read a 12.1 post from a guy with my card on linuxquestions. but it didn't deal with 12.2 and 9.2 not behaving. [00:30] blkdg: did you search the slackware section? [00:30] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) left ##slackware. [00:30] let me look now [00:31] 8-12 works so well for me I don't have any need to upgrade anytime soon, I figure if it ain't broke, don't fix it [00:33] Ficthe (n=grieve@CPE-72-131-0-46.wi.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("::"). [00:33] this looks about right http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/ati-4870-fglrx-on-slack-12.2-710729/ [00:33] ok, i got 8.12 finally. [00:33] brb [00:33] cHiOs (n=chio@adsl-75-44-42-65.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:35] ok it installed [00:35] sweet [00:36] i'm going to try aticonfig --i [00:36] one sec [00:36] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [00:38] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:41] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:41] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-183-120.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-168-230.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [00:42] 2889 frames in 5.0 seconds = 577.800 FPS [00:42] :) [00:42] thank you [00:42] What video hardware do you have? [00:42] :) [00:43] Ecchi`Ranger (i=servantz@server1.bshellz.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:43] ati3200 [00:43] I assume you mean Radeon HD3200. [00:43] fgl_glxgearsUsing GLX_SGIX_pbuffer [00:43] yes ccfreak2k [00:44] how come? [00:44] thanks guys. [00:44] Because if you were running glxgears (not fgl_glxgears), you should probably be getting at least 6000. [00:44] let me look [00:46] 5163 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1032.382 FPS [00:46] awsome, gears. [00:46] thanks again guys. [00:46] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:46] glxinfo | grep direct [00:46] Run that. [00:47] how could i avoided this mess in the begining? [00:47] should i have checked which kernel version the latest driver was good for? [00:47] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:47] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.131.208) joined ##slackware. [00:47] i want to learn how to learn from this experince. seriously [00:48] ccfreak2k: direct rendering is yes [00:48] blkdg: I usually only update only when I update my kernel, otherwise if it works I leave it alone, especially when they do a major number change like from 8 to 9 [00:49] kde 3.5 looks sweet [00:49] Well, I guess if fgl_glxgears runs, it'll be ok. [00:49] i never could run its built in compositing on my other machine. [00:50] help me for driver nvidia [00:50] http://pastebin.com/m29e0fd4a [00:50] anyhow it's late. thanks again. [00:50] speaking of fps and vid chips , i only get -> 8437 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1687.380 FPS -> on my nvidia GeForce 6150SE nForce 430. and yes direct rendering is enabled and working. wonder if anyone else has that chip here and what FPS they asre getting so i could compare. seems a little slow to me. [00:50] i built nvidia drivers a week ago using slckbuilds script. [00:51] blkdg: .run [00:51] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.164) left irc: "Leaving." [00:51] dtanner, I get roughly 6500 on my ATI Radeon X850 XT PE. [00:52] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.164) joined ##slackware. [00:52] Though, 6150 SE is way over at the low end. [00:52] nvidia-driver (180.29) slackneo [00:52] 1600 is probably the best you'll get. [00:52] and nvidia kernel worked. [00:53] we built them on a 12.2 laptop. [00:53] i don't know more than that.. [00:53] trist007 (n=thartani@cpe-68-203-185-145.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:53] have a good night / morning. [00:53] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [00:54] ccfreak2k: well at least that makes some sense , i did not knoww that the 6150SE was on the low end , it is onboard so i just used it instead buying a another vid card. thanks for the info. [00:55] Yeah, it's pretty much the lowest of the low for the 6000 series. [00:56] hello guys [00:56] had a question so ill just throw it out [00:56] trist007: Hello. How are you? [00:57] doing pretty good [00:57] been using linux for about year, i love it [00:57] started with fedora last march [00:57] then hit slackware with backtrack since june [00:57] then started straight up slackware in nov [00:57] i love it [00:58] Yes, Linux is great. I've used it about 4-5 years; just installed slackware about 2 months ago. [00:58] it's lean and runs quick [00:58] and you bought a mac? [00:58] learned alot by using it [00:58] :) [00:58] might install gentoo on another comp later on to compare [00:58] rebuilt the kernel a few times [00:58] do yourself a favor and skip Gentoo [00:58] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.131.208) left irc: "leaving" [00:59] i have a toshiba satellite m305d-s4830 [00:59] hehe [00:59] slackware with backtrack ? [00:59] yeah [00:59] then i installed slackware [00:59] Hey dtanner. How are you doing? [00:59] and just installed the tools that i use from backtrack [00:59] anyhow [00:59] on my toshiba laptop [00:59] ive rebuilt the kernel a few times, it runs great [00:59] thing is [00:59] on the acpi section in the kernel config [00:59] mib_vwzil5 (i=180ae58e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7361f4568c897ea6) joined ##slackware. [00:59] hi [01:00] firebird619: doing good , except i almost broke my left wrist yesterday , ended up in the ER this evening , they xx-rayed it and it is only a bad sprain [01:00] have to wear a splint for 7 days [01:00] finally found a good web based irc [01:00] dtanner: Yikes. How did you do that? [01:00] i was trying to get /proc/acpi/battery to work [01:00] firebird619: other than that i am doing good and looking forward for my new studio monitors and sub to get here =) [01:00] so i ended up enabling most of the stuff in the acpi section for the config file of the kernel [01:00] including the deprecated /proc stuff [01:00] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:01] i can get readings on my battery now [01:01] like how much charge ,etc [01:01] however [01:01] dtanner: Yeah, those 3-5 days are about up. They should get there soon right? [01:01] when i have the ac adapter plugged in, and i execute a poweroff, it reboots instead [01:01] if the ac adapter is unplugged [01:01] firebird619: leaning my bike down ( while stopped ) and truying to pick it back up straight and put too much pressure on my lewft arm taking al the 650 pounds of weight , shold have used more of my right arm too i guess [01:01] poweroff works fine [01:01] trying to figure out, which option in acpi might have triggered that [01:02] any of you guys heard of that sympton? [01:02] firebird619: i only clicked ORDER on Monday because I ended up getting some of the cables and such locally , and the speaker stands, they were cheaper here at guitar center [01:02] dtanner: Thank goodness it's just a bad sprain instead of broken. [01:02] so monday o ordered and 2-5 days shipping , shoud have them by friday [01:02] firebird619: indeed [01:03] dtanner: Nice. It's kind of fun ordering something and then having that anticipation of when the items will arrive. [01:03] trist007: never heard of that before [01:03] firebird619: indeed [01:03] Kerio2004 (n=Port@212.118.140.236) joined ##slackware. [01:03] i am putting the stands together tommorow , so when they get here they come out of the box and have a home on some nice stands =) [01:04] :) [01:04] firebird619: http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-MUS-SMS6000--P-On <-- these adjustable height stand [01:04] stands [01:04] dtanner: Does that, for now, complete your studio room, or do you have more to/want to, add to it before it's complete. [01:05] lenty more i want ,. but that will do it for now =) i want a bass guitar eventually and a nice keyboard ( a roland phantom series keyboard ) [01:05] i will be recording as soon as the monitors get here , i have five guitars and a roland electronic drumkit [01:05] ohi never showed you the drum kit i have [01:06] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:06] http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-ROL-TD6PDX <- firebird619 check out my electronic drum kit [01:06] dtanner: Yeah, I looked at those roland phantom series on their Web site, they are really nice, spendy, but nice. [01:06] luisme (n=lss@host17.190-30-86.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [01:06] luisme (n=lss@host17.190-30-86.telecom.net.ar) left ##slackware. [01:07] dtanner: So, when are you releasing your first studio album. :D [01:07] i am giving myself 6 months to have an entire album ready [01:08] dtanner: You have that somewhat planned out don't you. [01:08] i have about 7 songs already in progress , just need to record them and mixdown and master [01:09] cool. [01:09] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.164) left irc: "Leaving." [01:09] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.32.0) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:09] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.164) joined ##slackware. [01:09] just curious, is there something like pro-tools for linux? [01:09] i have more than 7 songs i wrote but only 7 i am concentrating on atm [01:09] mannynix: linux-audio.org [01:10] dtanner: Thank you, checking it out [01:10] dtanner: That linux-audio.org site is really nice. [01:10] gbonvehim: for some reason when I enter my chat nothing comes out hehe [01:10] gbonvehim: on our private session [01:10] Thanks [01:10] they are getting closer and closer , there is a lot of recording / editing audio software coming along nicely for linux [01:10] mannynix: ^^ [01:10] trist007: np [01:11] dtanner: That's one of the nice things about linux, things progress so rapidly and have such a large community and develop such great software. [01:12] dtanner: Rosegarden sure is nice, I've been playing around with it now that I have that MIDI cable for the keyboard. Have you ever used it? [01:12] yes sir [01:12] never have used rosegarden [01:13] tbh i have not used much recording/audio-editing software in linux but i am looking into it [01:13] interesting site, thanks [01:14] mannynix: google "linux recording studio" and you will see some nice links in the first five ro so hits concerning studios already out there that are using linux based audio software [01:14] mannynix: np [01:14] dtanner: It's really nice. I tried getting lilypond going too, but I'm on -current and the lilypond on SBo didn't work for it, so for now, I am somewhat learning rosegarden and practicing playing the keyboard each day, trying to learn it. :) [01:14] dtanner: Thanks, that's great :) [01:15] mannynix: you will se that a lot of the software is based around "jack" and "ladspa" [01:15] jiffypop (n=ace@32.176.159.233) joined ##slackware. [01:15] i need a drink ,. brb [01:15] oh, cool [01:15] I had read somewhere that a Radio Station, iirc in Michigan, uses Ubuntu Studio to broadcast their station and do all the audio mixing, etc. [01:16] mib_vwzil5 (i=180ae58e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7361f4568c897ea6) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [01:16] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.254.252.40) left irc: "leaving" [01:16] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.164) left irc: "Leaving." [01:18] firebird619: i am testing ubuntu studio in vbox [01:18] nice collection of audio software already pre-compiled just for studio distro [01:18] firebird619: what i will probably do is just check out what aps they are using and compile them al lon slack =) [01:19] dtanner: I have had it installed to the hard drive before, it is really nice, but then I gave Fedora a try, then Debian for a while, and now Slackware. It was nice having all that audio/video software right there. [01:20] http://www.linux.com/feature/39751 -- http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7205 <--- firebird619 ... mannynix [01:20] dtanner: Yeah, it may take a little while to compile it all on Slack, but it would be nice to have all that same software. [01:21] dtanner: Ty [01:21] dtanner: Thanks. and for you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList [01:22] sweet [01:22] thanks [01:23] The Linux-Based Recording Studio <-- this is a nice article , diagrams and all =) [01:23] oh diagrams, cool [01:25] dtanner: Now with the list, you can get compiling when you have time. :) [01:26] dtanner: I guess Ubuntu Studio includes quite a bit of audio stuff, I didn't think it was that much. Some of it is maybe in slackware or has slackbuilds available. [01:27] firebird619: yeah that will take some time and work , but i would rather have it on slack than ubuntu , but it is handy that they have a version that is geared directly towards audio [01:29] dtanner: Yes, I would much rather have it on slack too. It may take time, but it's worth it knowing you have a good stable system like slackware and you have more control and knowledge of what's in your system. [01:29] indeed [01:30] dtanner: Better than apt-get install (program) and getting a mile long list of dependencies that makes you go, what the heck is it trying to install now. [01:30] oh yeah i wanted to ask you , so the application you are using that reproduces the input input of your keyboard is rosegarden ? what exactly does rosegarden do for you in your setup ? ie: MIDI OUT form keyboard to MIDI-IN on linux box with rosegarden installed? [01:31] or i should have said USB IN to computer with your midi-to-usb convertor [01:32] does it psimply pump the sound through to your sounbdacrd and out to your speakers ? or does it have beats and such ? [01:32] friggin typos everywhere , getting tired =) [01:33] dtanner: Yeah, I am using rosegarden. I guess it does both. It can do playback of, for example a midi file played in rosegarden will play through the keyboard, and it will also record what you play onto the keyboard so you can either print as sheet music or save to a file, or both. [01:33] nice, so in and out processing [01:33] anybody use a classic creative soundblaster awe64 gold with it's beautiful midi synthesizer on slackware? [01:34] i loved the way that card played midi [01:34] dtanner: Yeah, it's really nice. Now I just am trying to learn to play the keyboard so I have something valuable to record. :) [01:34] never had the GOLD sb [01:35] Me either. I have the Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum and before that SB Live Digital, and before that, the built-in sound cards. [01:35] yeah came with two rca gold plated outs hehe, anyhow, the midi synth is way better than all this emulated crap [01:35] firebird619: it willl come with practice , practice as much as you can , and truy and play along with songs that have some very pronounced keyboard parts to start training the ear by figuring out the chords by ear , also get some sheet musci and also learn the chords with a chord book [01:35] i am sure you can find a chord cheat sheet online , probably in pdf somewhere <- firebird619 [01:36] of course, nowadays, it's all about samplers, but how i love the old school sound of a sb card, the crackle the card makes when it initializes the driver [01:36] dlw [01:36] dtanner: Yes, I am practicing every day. Right now, I am using the music in the books that came with the keyboard. I think in the back of one of the books it has the chords. [01:36] ncie [01:37] dtanner: The books that come with that keyboard are really nice and teach as they go. [01:37] my casio keyboard broke , the first 12 or so keys are not working now , it was given to me anyways. [01:37] that's to bad. Is that the only one you have? [01:37] i really really want a phantom series roland , but as you said , very pricey. but i played on at the guittar center the other day and they are so awesome [01:38] I have a early 70's Hammond B3 organ , it is in another city at a friends house though [01:38] i need to go visit him and bring my hammond here to Texas [01:39] wow, that's cool [01:39] ever heard niacin? [01:39] heya,folks...those B3's are awesome...good mechanical grind [01:40] niacin, lol, yeah it cleanses your blood, great for detoxing [01:40] however it makes your skin burn, and you get all red and hot [01:41] niacin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4WJuLeHCCs [01:41] i remember taking that back in my old college days [01:41] MLanden: they sound like no other , great sound, i love it [01:41] dtanner: There you go. Go get it. :) [01:42] true on that.dtanner [01:42] MLanden: i paid 120 bucks for the Hammond B3 Dolphin-model on the side of the road at a garage sale =) [01:42] lucky bastard [01:43] LOL [01:43] i think it is a 1973 model IIRC, i looked up the serial number online when i first got it [01:43] any restorations needed? [01:43] and it has a "Leslie Port" =) all i need to do is find a cheap Leslie =) [01:43] MLanden: it needs a tibe for the top layer of keys [01:43] tibe=tube [01:43] and that is it [01:44] everything works perfectly, including the rotating speaker inside the organ [01:44] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-139-50-214.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:45] cool [01:45] kcim (n=michael@203.129.156.29.dynamic.rev.dft.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:46] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:46] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [01:46] think there's a shop in Toronto that makes vintage tubes and are reasonably priced [01:46] evenin all. [01:46] jiffypop (n=ace@32.176.159.233) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:47] evenin',agentc0re [01:47] sup agentc0re [01:47] I came home from work today and passed the hell out, just woke up now. Gah, going to sleep now is going to be hard. [01:48] it's 11:43 my time. passed out around 5:30 i think. [01:48] nice nap :P [01:50] dtanner: No doubt, too bad i didn't stay asleep for the rest 8 hours until work. I took some percocet, hopefully that will help :D [01:51] i had two percocets at the ER this evening ( spained my wrist bad had to let them check if it was broken but just a sprain) but the percs were good =) [01:52] Ouch dude. [01:52] What did you do?> [01:52] my wrist LOOSK broken but they xrayed it and no fracture at all [01:53] picking up al the weight of my bike 650 pounds+ and put too much of the weight on my left arm instead of using both arms equal pressure and my body force to help , so my left wrist is bitching pretty bad [01:53] what kind of bike do you dtanner? [01:53] HD dyna wide-glide 2008 [01:54] trist007: http://picasaweb.google.com/slacktop/Harley# [01:54] nice dood, i'd like to get a harley at least once in my life, and travel the world [01:54] i am planning on a ride to the "Hill COuntry" south of Austin real soon [01:54] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [01:55] the Hill country is around the towns Fredricksburg and Kerrville [01:55] like bastrop and stuff? [01:55] beautiful riding country+roads [01:55] yup [01:55] exactly [01:55] ah yes, great places, i'm actually here in san antonio, dont forget to stop in luchenboch [01:55] bastrop i very close to here , fredricksburg is a little further [01:55] oh wow you are very close to the Hill country [01:56] etc-12.34567890-noarch-2 <-- is Slackware not the best or what? [01:56] yeah, my dad has some property in fredericksburg, great town [01:56] I took the ride in San Marcus called "The Devils Backbone" about three months ago [01:56] dtanner: Oh shit, did you crash it dude? [01:56] it was great [01:56] agentc0re: no crash [01:56] just a drop [01:56] I have a Sportster myself. [01:56] nice dood, yeah i've had a few street bikes, hehe, had to bring it up to san antonio from laredo, 2.5 hrs, hands went numb [01:57] i have a few dirt bikes, one is street legal, but you can go anywhere with it, put a stabilizer on it, it's great [01:57] i kicked the kickstand down like i normally do , but it popped back up and i juist laid it down thinking the kickstand was down , i will lways look form now on , i had done it so many times and kicking it out that i did not look , the time i didn't look the kickstand popped back in the up position on me [01:57] nullboy: Hahah, that's funny. Is that on -current? [01:57] version 12.34567890 that is freaking awesome [01:57] agentc0re: yeah [01:58] gatch, hehe, no worries, i laid down my 2008 gxsr 750 on my first day, i was practicing hard turning at very slow speeds [01:58] hehe, i remember some bum on the side of the street just staring at me as i struggled to get it back up lol [01:58] it costs me 268 bucks to fix the left clutch lever ( so i had to get a matching pair and the right broake lever ) and the clutch shifter arm got bent too , other than that , not one single scratch , all of the weight was on the clutch lever and the clutch and foot peg . got real lucky on that part , not a scratch other than that [01:58] then i used black paint to cover the scratches hehe, classic [01:59] yeah, crap, everytime i lay one of my dirt bikes down, either the brake or the clutch levers break off [01:59] 30 bux/pop [01:59] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [02:00] and not *real* easy to replace them , at least on my model of bike , have to take apart the lever casing etc etc [02:00] I've crashed a total of 3 times now. twice on my old 81 virago and once on the Harley. First two were due to slipper conditions, moss in a bank driveway and the anti-freeze spillage on the exit ramp. Harley was because some jackass stopped to fast in front of me and i skid and bit it. [02:00] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [02:00] damn..., takes 1 min on the dirt bikes to replace, that's what i love about dirt bikes, so easy to maintain [02:00] indeeed , I love riding dirt bikes also [02:00] s/slipper/slippery [02:00] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [02:00] fun stuff [02:01] take care,folks...good luck in all life's endeavors [02:01] laters MLanden. [02:01] nothing like the smell of a 2 stroke starting up, it's great [02:01] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-183-120.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:01] later MLanden [02:01] ite guys, i'm out, have a great nite, have a great ride dtanner, laters [02:02] trist007 (n=thartani@cpe-68-203-185-145.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: [02:02] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-168-230.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:03] othermindszine (n=othermin@216.sub-70-192-16.myvzw.com) left irc: "Where ever you may be, be well. Namarië." [02:05] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [02:09] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [02:10] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.56.158.138) left irc: "good night" [02:10] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:10] firebird619: out if curiousity which musci manager/player do you use for mp3/wav/cdplayer whatwevr , like i use rhythmbox mostly but i am starting to really like amarok too. do you use kde or gnome and if you use gnome, which other music managers are available that are comparabel to rhythmbox or amarok ? [02:11] gtk2 based music managers/players [02:11] fwiw i use Amarok. I like it because it integrates well with my ipod. [02:12] kcim (n=michael@203.129.156.29.dynamic.rev.dft.com.au) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:12] agentc0re: yeah they do , buti get the same integration with rhythmbox too , i am just wondering what other gtk2 based music managers are nice as both of those [02:12] dtanner: Lately, I have been using xmms. I use xfce, but sometimes use KDE4. I also like quodlibet (SBo) and Listen. [02:12] amarok is nice , i usally do not used qt/kde based guis but i like amarok [02:12] nullboy: any luck with the ath5k? I see TUZ freaked you out too. ;) [02:13] hmm quodlibet [02:13] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:13] chopp: ath5k is not very happy still for me [02:14] dtanner: Quodlibet is gtk based. [02:14] written in Python. [02:14] nullboy: crap, I was hoping you were having more luck with it than me. [02:14] what problems do you guys have with ath5k? [02:15] firebird619: checking it out now [02:15] has a couple of deps needed but no problem with that [02:15] chopp: i have M2 crypto, crda, the reg binary, and the latest git hostapd but hostapd just refuses to put the interface into master mode [02:15] dtanner: Ok. It is a nice program. [02:15] Urchlay: I was just going to ask the same. [02:15] Urchlay: master mode [02:15] oh [02:15] dtanner: Right now, I am in the process of installing ardour. [02:16] my problem's much different. It'll work OK for a couple minutes, then quit working for a minute or less, then come back... lather, rinse, repeat [02:16] same card works great with madwifi [02:16] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:16] nullboy: swig too right? [02:16] everything [02:16] swig comes in -current now [02:16] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) joined ##slackware. [02:17] ok, been a bit since I updated. [02:18] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) left irc: Client Quit [02:19] firebird619: building gst-python right now [02:19] dtanner: cool. I am just building the deps for ardour, there's a few of them. :) [02:19] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [02:21] dtanner: Well, I have all the deps installed except libgnomecanvas [02:21] nullboy: I'll have to go back to 2.6.28.8 with this ath5k fail because I can't seem to even get madwifi built for 2.6.29. [02:23] chopp: what about wpa_supplicant? [02:23] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) joined ##slackware. [02:25] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) left irc: Client Quit [02:25] agentc0re: I never got past trying to build madwifi. [02:26] firebird619: i had to build two deps ( i had the rest already installed ) excpe tfor gst-pyhton and mutagen , i am now playing music on quodlibet... checking it out [02:26] dtanner: Nice. I am just installing ardour and will be checking it out. [02:27] dtanner: There weren't many dependencies for it. [02:27] firebird619: are you keeping a list of apps ( plus deps ) that you are compiling for your audio ventures ? [02:28] dtanner: Yes. Everything I install in Slackware I right down in a notebook and I write down what is a dep for what else, etc. [02:29] sweet , that would come in handy when i build my slackware-studio box =) that plus the ubuntu-studio package list should cover a lot of ground [02:30] dtanner: Yeah, looking at the Ubuntu list, I think that almost covers all the ground there is, it takes care of pretty much every aspect of audio stuff. [02:31] dtanner: As for audio ventures, I've just done rosegarden and ardour, and will maybe install some others as I find them. When you want the list of deps, dep orders, etc. let me know and I can pastebin the list or something. [02:32] firebird619: ok, that is good to know. thank you [02:32] dtanner: While ardour is compiling, I'm going to step afk for about 10 minutes. Let me know what you think of quodlibet once you've tried it out enough to get an opinion. [02:32] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:46] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [02:52] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:52] theoffset (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:53] firebird619: quodlibet is a nice ap , but i miss the features of things frolm rhythmbox and amraok like mp3player/ipod-and-others support , plus cdplayer suppoer , plus the way those two apps organize your music . but quodlibet looks decent. i am used to having more features as mentioned. it has its place though. [02:55] dtanner: Yes, it lacks features that the others have, but it is a nice audio player though. I think maybe listen has some of that other stuff you are looking for. It isn't on SBo. [02:55] dtanner: Here's the deps list, etc. for Rosegarden and Ardour. http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11293 [02:56] firebird619: i am bouncing back and forth between rhythmbox and amarok for now , i really like both a lot. [02:56] firebird619: ok bookmarking now. thanks [02:56] dtanner: np [02:57] dtanner: I don't have rhythmbox installed on Slack, I have used it on other distros. Amarok is really nice, I have just been using xmms lately for whatever reason, it just loads fast, and all I really need is a player. [02:57] dtanner: ardour is still compiling. :) [02:58] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:58] dtanner: Here's the site for Listen: http://www.listen-project.org/ [02:58] http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2313046&id=645973975#/photo.php?pid=2313113&op=1&view=all&subj=1075652968&id=645973975 [02:58] SFW [02:59] firebird619, when all you need is a player, mplayer loads quick too [02:59] Motoko-chan: Yes, it does. I guess I've never really used that for audio. I use it all the time for video though. [02:59] replay (i=1000@69.26.207.147) joined ##slackware. [03:00] http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2313113&id=645973975 < take 2 [03:00] I like Songbird too, it's only at version 1.0, but it's really nice. [03:00] dtanner: Ahhh, finally ardour is done. [03:00] firebird619: thanks [03:02] anyone have a clue on these errors? http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11294 [03:06] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [03:06] dtanner: Ardour sure seems nice. I haven't done much with it yet, but it sure seems nice. [03:16] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-235-80.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:18] dtanner: Doesn't seem like the MIDI works right away in ardour like it did in Rosegarden. I'll have to do more experimental/research. [03:19] replay (i=1000@69.26.207.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:20] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [03:23] giuppy (n=giuppy@host14-169-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:23] firebird619: ardour looks real nice , i have been reading the manual .. [03:24] firebird619: time for me to get some sleep .. later and have a good one [03:24] birdlives (n=lee@96.240.45.172) joined ##slackware. [03:24] dtanner: Yeah, I haven't looked at the manual yet. [03:24] dtanner: Ok, good night. [03:37] firebird619, check out smplayer if you like GUIs. [03:37] Also Songbird released 1.1 recently. [03:37] It supports directory monitoring too. [03:37] Man_of_Wax (n=wax@gualtiero.cs.unibo.it) joined ##slackware. [03:38] Action: Motoko-chan goes to sleep now [03:38] Motoko-chan: I actually just installed smplayer yesterday. I haven't installed Songbird on Slack, I'll have to check it out. Thanks. 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[03:51] you'd think the ui that comes with the base application would be the most stable [03:52] but not this one [03:54] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:58] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [03:58] omfg k3b svn 29040 is working [03:58] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8845D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [03:58] morning [03:59] its snowing :( [03:59] slackytude: Good morning. How are you? [03:59] morning firebird619. Im doing fine, altho Im late to work again and the weather is shitty [04:00] firebird619, I see you survived the tornados [04:00] slackytude: Heh. Yes. There weren't any tornadoes near hear, but there were a a couple produced by the same storm system that came through town. [04:00] oops [04:00] wrong svn tree [04:01] and it's still unstable [04:01] slackytude: Late to work again? [04:01] yeah [04:01] havent been on time the whole week, I think [04:01] slackytude: Oh No. That's not good. [04:01] nope, but the boss aint here, so it could be worse [04:02] slackytude: Yeah, it could. :) [04:02] neonflux_^ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-168-230.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [04:02] Nick change: neonflux_^ -> neonflux [04:02] Well, I have to get going. It's 3:00 AM here. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. [04:02] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [04:02] Action: chopp backhands tuz [04:02] firebird619, good night ^-^ [04:03] slackytude: You better start getting to work on time before the boss gets back. [04:03] Action: slackytude nods [04:03] Im trying [04:03] later slackytude. have a good day. [04:03] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [04:03] Im trying ^-^ [04:03] depends on the customers [04:04] Well, at least your trying. 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[04:34] giorno a tutti [04:37] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:38] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [04:39] keoni (n=chadh@208.106.15.140) joined ##slackware. [04:39] k3b svn 944158 wrote a whole dvd iso successfully at 4x under kde4 in -current for me [04:40] thats good [04:40] morning nullboy [04:40] hi [04:43] morning. [04:43] nullboy: \o/ [04:44] looks like the k4b dude finally got his act together [04:44] eh [04:44] k3b dude I mean [04:46] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:46] Guest59268 (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [04:48] I'll have to check it out, still using the 1.0.5 with KDE4 [04:50] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. 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[05:26] I think he means / [05:26] oh [05:26] birdlives, well, you can use the unused space for a new partition without problems then [05:26] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [05:27] birdlives, so you have 45 gigs for windows and the rest is unused? [05:27] and i would just mount it as normal? and it wont mess up data on my other partition? [05:27] no i dont have windows, [05:27] birdlives, yeah, you can make any partitions you want in the free space. [05:27] birdlives, correct [05:28] cfdisk is your friend :) [05:28] unless you make some horrible mistkae [05:28] alright cool, im going to load in the live cd and try thx, just making sure [05:28] birdlives, call again if any problems :) [05:29] birdlives (n=lee@96.240.45.172) left irc: "Leaving" [05:29] dont need a lice cd [05:29] oh well [05:29] erm lol [05:29] so he has linux on the first partition too? [05:29] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:30] slackytude, how are you doing? :) [05:30] mikk0 (n=mikk01@YMMMDCCXXV.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:31] slava_dp, he has a slack partition working well, apparently [05:31] slava_dp, Im doing fine ^-^ altho weather really sucks [05:31] slava_dp, how about you? still fighting with the flash? [05:31] slackytude, same here with the weather. rainy and wet. [05:32] eh, we had hail and snow [05:32] and rain [05:32] and cold wind :( [05:33] we've strong wind and snow flurries [05:33] doeppjakab, where you at? [05:33] i've finished with that flash stuff :) now looking at the K&R book lying on my table and at the pack of 5 debian dvds near it. thinking what of those to pick for today :) [05:33] K&R? [05:33] transylvania [05:34] doeppjakab, for real? [05:34] slackytude, The C Programming Language, Kernighan & Ritchie =) [05:34] ah ok [05:34] slava_dp, you new to C? [05:34] slackytude, pretty much [05:34] yes, in the nw of romania [05:35] doeppjakab, fancy. any problems with vampires laetly? :P [05:35] heh [05:35] knew vampires would be the next topic [05:35] I guess everybody makes a joke about it [05:35] heh [05:35] sorry, its hard to resist [05:35] doeppjakab, should be proud :) [05:35] is compiling k3b 944184 [05:36] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [05:36] is finished compiling k3b... [05:36] slava_dp, I kinda like C altho theres few thinks Id use it for nowadays. But you do embedded stuff, right? [05:37] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-235-80.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [05:37] slackytude, yeah, embedded things [05:37] slava_dp, C is the right tool then ^-^ [05:37] slackytude, what do you use these days for general coding? [05:38] python mostly, C++ for some stuff, and If Im being forced to, Java [05:39] python is intrepreted, not compiled, right? [05:39] correct [05:40] ok. i'll try my luck with C and see what i can with it =) [05:41] Action: slava_dp is in favour of installing debian first. [05:41] what do you usually programm with? [05:41] hehe [05:42] me? not a programmer. although we had a visual c++ course (uhh!) in the uni, i kind of skipped it. was not motivated at all. and now i'm realizing programming *can* be fun. [05:43] and right now it's bash. [05:43] heh [05:44] oh bash [05:44] my bash fu is pretty weak [05:44] I admire those guys who can do big stuff in it. not my cup of tea [05:45] i took apart alien's mirror-slackware-current.sh and wrote what was needed using that as an example :) it's a nice, commented one, btw. [05:46] sounds good [05:47] bash is a pretty limited language. it all boils down to the extent of your knowledge of the linux system. 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[05:53] alright so i made the partition, but i tried to mount /dev/hda3, and it says it its not in fstab [05:53] birdlives, mount /dev/???? /mnt/tmp [05:54] birdlives, ls /mnt/tmp [05:54] oh ok [05:54] birdlives, and did you even make a filesystem on it? [05:54] ah, naw i wasn't sure so i chose just plain linux [05:55] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:55] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-111-25.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:55] do i have to make it ext3 or something? [05:55] birdlives, you have to format it with a filesystem. [05:55] birdlives, if you want to. ext3 aint a bad choice [05:56] birdlives, also, you didnt need to boot from a live cd for making a new partition [05:56] birdlives, if it's for a file archive, try xfs, [05:56] works fine from within slack [05:56] it's much better [05:56] xfs? do you know what number that was [05:57] its not about numbers [05:57] birdlives, the partition should be "Linux" for any linux fs. [05:57] with cfdisk you partition, then you format [05:57] just use mkfs.xfs /dev/???? [05:57] then mount it and use. [05:58] i made the partition with cfdisk but im not sure what i did anymore [05:58] birdlives, fdisk -l [05:58] will show what you've got [05:59] yeah it shows up as hda3 [05:59] mkfs.xfs /dev/hda3 [05:59] alrighty [05:59] double check that it's the right partition! [06:00] yeah, its the one i just made [06:00] thats was rather quick [06:01] xfs is fast [06:01] so now i mount /dev/hda3? [06:01] do it :) [06:01] jfs is even faster :-) [06:01] reiserfs still wins :) [06:02] hmm it says can't find /dev/hda3 in /etc/fstabs [06:02] birdlives: well add it [06:02] birdlives, just use "mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/tmp" [06:02] or add it to fstab [06:03] how do i add it to fstab lol [06:03] lol [06:03] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [06:03] "mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/tmp" [06:03] try that first [06:04] mib_ko0st6af (i=ca8a7f31@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0d7a93f4fcde0787) joined ##slackware. [06:04] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:04] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Client Quit [06:04] slackytude slava_dp, yeah that was succesfull [06:04] right [06:05] need to edit fstab to have it mount on boot [06:05] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [06:05] ok il go find it [06:05] mib_ko0st6af (i=ca8a7f31@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0d7a93f4fcde0787) left irc: Client Quit [06:06] in system:/media, it doesn't show my new partition [06:06] birdlives, did you read the slackbook? [06:06] what topic should i look at? [06:06] birdlives, probably because you did it by hand, not via hal, and into /mnt and not /media [06:07] chapter 9 [06:07] ah ok [06:07] specially 9.4 [06:09] Nick change: yht -> ryht|gohome [06:10] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-111-25.ip86.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [06:20] masterx831 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-226-8.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:26] slackytude, so what would this do in my fstabs?: /dev/hda3 / ext3 defaults 1 1 [06:27] no, you wouldnt [06:27] that means, mount the new drive to / and you specify ext3, altho you made it xfs [06:27] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:27] oh wait [06:27] that was a question [06:28] ^-^ it means, mount the ext3 partition hda3 as my root / [06:28] with default parameters [06:28] oh, but i need to change ext3 to xfs [06:28] ? [06:29] for your new partition, yeah. and do not mount to / [06:29] oh ok [06:31] what i want it to do, is when i open konquer and go to Storage Media, it shows my hda2, but not my new partition, what directory would i choose then? [06:32] Im pretty sure it will pick it up when its mounted by fstab [06:33] o so i should keep it at /mnt/tmp? [06:34] where would you like to mount it? [06:34] /media/secondDrive would work too [06:34] its up to you [06:34] oh ok so i just make up on then [06:34] *one [06:38] birdlives, you can even mount it directly to something like /storage if you prefer. [06:38] vatgas (n=val@123.145.66.142) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:40] vatgas (n=val@123.145.78.196) joined ##slackware. [06:40] bbl, will install debian to my secondary drive. [06:40] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "Leaving" [06:41] slackytude, i'm going to mount it into media, im entering in /dev/hda3 /media xfs defaults 1 1 into fstabs then reboot. [06:41] nope [06:41] not just /media [06:42] ah ok [06:42] make it /media/myDrive or something [06:42] and make sure that directory exists [06:42] and is empty ^-^ [06:44] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:45] and you dont really need to reboot either. just do a umount /dev/hda3 and mount /dev/hda3 again without the mountpoint. that should do it [06:45] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.225.89.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [06:45] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.100.78) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [06:45] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.180.100.78) joined ##slackware. [06:46] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [06:47] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-216-76.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:47] slackytude, ok i changed it to /media/D and i did mkdir D so its their [06:48] well, a bit to window's sytle but should work just fine [06:48] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-111-25.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "Leaving" [06:48] yeah lol [06:50] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [06:53] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-72-125-ull.customer.panservice.it) joined ##slackware. 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[07:31] bollocks [07:31] http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/German_spy_chief_threatens_Wikileaks [07:31] Soul_keeper, well, yeah [07:32] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:33] https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/Change_you_can_download:_a_billion_in_secret_Congressional_reports i liked this post, they are doing a public service imo [07:33] slackytude2 (n=hotline@p4FD8842F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [07:33] flyhorse|linux (n=flyhorse@116.18.178.94) joined ##slackware. [07:34] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-13.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:35] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-130-72.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:35] gnubien (n=e@97.100.242.40) joined ##slackware. [07:36] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8845D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Nick collision from services. 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When did you move? [08:26] <_RadioHead> thumbs: i always lived here :) but probably is another radiohead [08:26] _RadioHead: sorry then [08:27] <_RadioHead> thumbs: dude no problem :) [08:28] tribeca (n=vedo@host162-103-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:31] greetings:) [08:32] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [08:33] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:35] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [08:39] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [08:42] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-111-25.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "Leaving" [08:44] lostin (n=austinpe@adsl-222-70-94.jan.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:46] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "Leaving" [08:46] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.53.31) joined ##slackware. [08:47] finally I can sleep after getting madwifi to build with 2.6.29 [ in bed ] [08:48] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:49] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:53] _RadioHead, snowing here too [08:53] _RadioHead, well raining actually [08:53] mixed bag of hail, snow, rain [08:56] windows network neighbourhood is damn annoying [08:57] offline machines are listed and some which are online dont show up [08:57] chopp: you're so great [ in bed ] [08:57] and what are you told to do? try a reboot! [08:57] slackytude: restart the workstation service on all the machines [08:58] you gotta be kidding [08:58] I am not. [08:58] *all* the machines? [08:58] all the ones impacted, at least [08:58] since *any* machine could be acting as the master browser [08:58] no, no [08:59] we have a domain controller [08:59] oh, you should have said so. [08:59] its a 2003 AD [08:59] I know the issue that happens without a Master Browser [08:59] but this cant be the same [08:59] anyway, restart the computer browser / workstation services on that particular buggy machine [09:00] thumbs, but, I just rebooted it twich, to make it rejoin the domain [09:00] s/twich/twice [09:00] overkill. [09:00] gotta reboot twice to leave/rejoin domain [09:00] me_ (n=me_@78.144.193.146) joined ##slackware. [09:00] anyway, its still acting up [09:00] really? [09:01] well, yes, thats what is messing me up [09:01] I don't think rejoining the domain was the fix at all, as you saw [09:01] yeah, but what else is there. I was talking to dudes in #windows and #windoes-server [09:02] my experience is limited. [09:03] strangely enough, the machines which are offline are appearing again even on the rebooted machine [09:03] so is mine [09:03] I would whip up wireshark and try to find sense in the flood of garbage windows spews out [09:03] gah [09:03] Id rather pry my heart out with a spoon [09:03] <_RadioHead> slackytude: here stoped , is not so cold but snow and my foot are all watered [09:03] <_RadioHead> :) [09:03] _RadioHead, still raining -_- [09:03] <_RadioHead> :) [09:04] thumbs, anyway, thanks for listening [09:04] slackytude: I would try to replace windows's SMB implementation with samba. [09:05] I mean, everything works so I probably shouldnt care [09:05] slackytude: much easier to debug [09:05] wait, you can't do that [09:05] thumbs, yes, and there are some samba machines in the AD (acting fine) but I cant really replace the whole AD with samba [09:05] not yet anyway [09:06] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-13.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:07] of course SAMBA will act fine. [09:07] ^-^ [09:07] Im really looking forward to samba4 [09:07] <_RadioHead> i wonder if latest kde/kdebase-4.2.1-i486-2.tgz @~ will solve my kde problem :) [09:07] I have this disconcerting feeling that MS's SMB has so much crap in it they can't even debug most of the current issues [09:07] thumbs, thats why there is smb2 since vista [09:08] tavl (n=tavl@itautecnet.cin.ufpe.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:09] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-72-125-ull.customer.panservice.it) left irc: Client Quit [09:10] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) joined ##slackware. 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[09:32] Action: Zordrak is about to install Office 2007 under wine.... :/ [09:32] Zordrak: You missed out on getting crossover for free didnt you? [09:33] i didnt like it much [09:33] Zordrak: Ya, but i think it's at least fully supported with it. [09:33] which is nice. [09:33] Not sure about wine, never looked to be honest. [09:35] Action: Dominian got crossover when it was free :) [09:36] Nick change: hing -> higuita [09:36] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-135-38.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:39] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) joined ##slackware. [09:39] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:42] konus (n=konus@staticline2725.toya.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [09:42] wow... just realized k9copy lets you open an ISO. Thats very convenient. [09:43] Chrysalis (n=UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) left irc: "leaving" [09:43] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. 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[09:51] <_RadioHead> it is a problem if i use 2 NIC with same chip? example RTL [09:52] nope [09:52] <_RadioHead> 8169 as example [09:53] <_RadioHead> slackytude: thx man, coz @ my saturday job they couldn`t get IP from dhcp server via switch , but i told them to conect directly and it works thought maybe same cards sometimes give problems , but do no what the hell is with switch [09:53] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.53.31) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:53] hackeron (n=hackeron@cpc2-seve19-2-0-cust712.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:53] as long as the MACs are different [09:53] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.52.34) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Zordrak, accorind to the wine site your chances of success are minimal [09:54] <_RadioHead> Zordrak: yes , but i remember once i have pain with same nics :) [09:54] slackytude: according to a tutorial i followed from slashdot... thhey're better than minimal [09:54] <_RadioHead> but in windoze that time ;p; [09:54] _RadioHead, we had the issue here where two machines would get the same IP's via DHCP [09:54] some routers just suck [09:54] Zordrak, godspeed [09:54] <_RadioHead> slackytude: i setup slackware server :) as smb/dhcpd/gateway [09:55] _RadioHead, :D [09:55] <_RadioHead> long time ago and works perfectly BUT since i left that job and i am going only saturday they are messing up my little slacky :) [09:55] <_RadioHead> slackytude: i think it is switch related problem this time. [09:55] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [09:55] lordi (n=chatzill@117.15.166.170) joined ##slackware. [09:56] _RadioHead, thats what I meant router/switch [09:56] _RadioHead, they'll regret it :P [09:56] <_RadioHead> slackytude: :) [09:57] imarambiocatan__ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) joined ##slackware. [09:57] imarambiocatan__ (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:57] giuppy (n=giuppy@host14-169-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: SendQ exceeded [09:58] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-71-245.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:59] Ojg (n=Ojg@ojg-laptop.tekproj.bth.se) joined ##slackware. [09:59] hi, can anyone tell me how to add a network device, because my 12.2 is not assuming wlan0 [09:59] boy many of the kernel hackers are working on ext3/ext4 now to fix many of the problems [10:00] i00nsu: some devices do not use wlan0 it can be a different name [10:00] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021906]" [10:00] kitche: ifconfig -a just tell me about lo and eth0 [10:01] i00nsu: well does your system see the wireless device that's the first thing you need to look at [10:02] ahh, nevermind.. i did not activate the wireless combination shortcut.. ok is working well sorry [10:03] i00nsu, ^-^ [10:03] Greyhound- (n=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [10:04] ok, so now i really need to undestand howto connect to a wireless host that is at school.. i read about wpa_supplicant but i dont understand exacly what I need to edit [10:04] lordi (n=chatzill@117.15.166.170) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]" [10:05] i got kwlan app thinking that solve me time but i must edit wpa_supplicant.. my card is a 8187b [10:05] i00nsu, get wicd [10:06] i will check, thanz [10:06] i00nsu, slackpkg install wicd [10:06] its in /extra [10:07] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89-96-55-143.ip11.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [10:07] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89-96-55-143.ip11.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:07] <_RadioHead> wicd rocks [10:08] <_RadioHead> and spare your time :) [10:08] <_RadioHead> a lot [10:08] never tried it , although i may soonish as i get my wireless network up and going [10:08] <_RadioHead> yo dtanner :) [10:08] su _RadioHead =) [10:08] sup even [10:09] fevel_ (n=fevel@200.222.42.129) joined ##slackware. [10:09] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:09] <_RadioHead> nada i am trying to find out @ my old job what the hell is problem with switches :) but is hard , need to use logmein and then sshit [10:09] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-111-25.ip86.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [10:10] hmm.. this is wierd i mean.. i did instaled but when i click icon keeps "dancing" but do not startup [10:10] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:10] any ideas? [10:10] i00nsu, icon dacning? [10:10] ah, you mean in kde? [10:11] is an expression [10:11] y0 Old_Fogie [10:11] yes [10:11] hidee ho all :) [10:11] i00nsu, what did you do exactly? [10:11] downloaded the wicd-1.5.6-noarch-2.tgz and did installpkg wicd-1.5.6-noarch-2.tgz [10:12] and then? [10:12] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:13] and then kdemenu, internet, click wicd Network Manager [10:13] i00nsu, you are starting the client without the daemon [10:13] there should be a rc.wicd in your /etc/rc.d [10:14] which you need to start as root [10:14] nachox (n=imarambi@200.68.83.121) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:14] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) left irc: No route to host [10:15] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:17] perfect, very thanx, this will be loaded at startup, yes? [10:17] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-71-245.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [10:17] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-71-245.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [10:17] ah ah, i was disconnect .. really simple app, many thanks!! [10:18] np ^-^ [10:19] meglo (n=meglo@unaffiliated/meglo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:19] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Success [10:19] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [10:20] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:21] npad (n=nick@69.17.57.162) joined ##slackware. [10:21] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:22] just one more dubt, in configuration of wireless network what is the diference between Adhoc and infrastructure? [10:22] <_RadioHead> anyone where dhcp server save logs? (clients that get ip) [10:23] hmm.. so at school i shoud set up as Adhoc, ok thnz [10:23] Adhoc is computer to computer [10:23] _RadioHead: maybe here ? -> /var/state/dhcp/dhcpd.leases [10:24] <_RadioHead> dtanner: thx man [10:24] <_RadioHead> let me check [10:25] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) joined ##slackware. [10:26] any one know how to install MTA ? [10:26] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [10:26] Greyhound- (n=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Connection timed out [10:28] MTA considering that slackware comes with sendmail [10:28] tntslack: sendmail is one way [10:29] and how i can configure that on my apache server so can automatically send mail to thous who make register on my blog? [10:29] tntslack: postfix is easier to set up, IMO [10:30] tntslack, php [10:30] there's alot of guides for postfix sure, sendmail way more flexible if you find a good guide I find. [10:30] tntslack, or any number of scripting languages [10:30] i am bad on php language :) [10:30] well hello there stranger Old_Fogie =) how are you today ? [10:30] dtanner, hidee ho [10:30] brb coffee refill :) [10:31] Old_Fogie: cigars are going average of on buck a stick very soon [10:31] tntslack, if you use a premade blog, it surely has some builtin stuff [10:31] going UP an average of one buck a stick [10:31] great opportunities for smugglers [10:32] indeed [10:32] trying to rip dvd iso to xvid with k9copy. It goes through the conversion process, which oddly only takes 2 minutes, and when finished i dont see my avi file anywhere. Anyone else have this issue? [10:33] vinnie_: preferences -> dvd -> output-directory [10:33] not there [10:34] and that must be a short dvd/video , it takes longer than 2 minutes to rip one [10:34] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:34] something smells fishy on your rip process [10:34] 2hour movie [10:35] no way it is ripping in 2 minutes then [10:35] sivel (n=sivel@96.239.139.223) joined ##slackware. [10:35] sivel (n=sivel@96.239.139.223) left ##slackware. [10:35] fevel_ (n=fevel@200.222.42.129) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:35] i have all dependancies installed that the readme mentions [10:35] _arfon_ (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [10:35] how to start esmtp ? [10:35] is that for MTP right? [10:36] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-71-245.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:38] esmtp=sendmail :) [10:38] /etc/rc./rc.sendmail [10:39] good morning slackytude [10:39] morning dtanner [10:39] slackytude there is no rc.sendmail [10:39] dtanner, hows it going? [10:40] tntslack, thats bad [10:40] hmm? [10:40] why? [10:40] there should be one [10:40] is by default i think [10:41] aereinha (n=aereinha@pcp115668pcs.unl.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:42] man my hard hurts from yesterday picking up the computer box at walmart .... [10:43] Are you 80? [10:43] no it was above my head when I picked it up [10:45] /exec lawsuit [10:45] imexius_ (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:46] aereinha (n=aereinha@pcp115668pcs.unl.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [10:46] slackytude: it is going good and yourself ? [10:47] dtanner, cant complain. boss is not at work so its kinda boring but stress free. and gonna go to uni next week again [10:47] all fine [10:48] Zordrak_Work (n=zordrak@proxy.jennic.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:48] god damnnit [10:48] slackytude: quiting your job and starting classes or working and attending ? [10:48] my home box has gone down [10:48] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:48] and the missus says the router wont power up [10:48] which means i might need to find a new wireless router A S A P [10:49] dtanner, nah, Im working while studying but it was the break between semesters. new semester is starting so I only work 20 hours a week [10:49] roughly 20 hours [10:49] what school ? [10:49] dtanner, university in germany [10:49] the only good news is that Office 2007 works PERFECTLY on slack-current/kde4/wine1.1.11 [10:50] Zordrak_Work, really? funky [10:50] slackytude: cool, how do you like living in Germany? [10:50] i dont need windows for anything any more [10:50] dtanner, its ok, I guess. better than some places, worse than others. weather is shitty of course [10:51] I need recommendations for a new wireless router [10:52] dtanner, where are you hanging around on the globe again? [10:52] im on a DG834Gv2 at the moment, but it's signal range is poor and the config system is a bit broken.. I *could* go for the DG834Gv4, but i dont want to if there's a much better option out there like a decent draytek [10:53] slackytude: I am in Austin, Texas USA [10:53] dtanner, right [10:53] dtanner, not much snow, I gather [10:54] no snow the entire past winter, and rarely does it ever snow here [10:57] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:59] damnnit... where do i go to talk about routers.. maybe #hardware :/ .. dont know any friends who *really* know.. my ISP friends all have basic kit.. 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KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [11:07] AAaannndd I'm back [11:07] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [11:10] _arfon_ (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) left ##slackware. [11:11] theoffset (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) joined ##slackware. [11:13] <_RadioHead> in dhcpd.conf is important HOST or only MAC when i want to give to one host specific IP ? [11:13] mac [11:13] host optional and in many cases irrelevant [11:14] <_RadioHead> Zordrak: thx man. so no problem if host name is changed [11:14] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "brb" [11:15] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:15] Zordrak_Work (n=zordrak@proxy.jennic.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [11:15] arcaos_ (n=chatzill@190.177.158.61) joined ##slackware. [11:16] how to config sendmail so it can send automatically mails on my server? [11:16] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [11:19] :/ [11:19] start sendmail [11:19] thats all i usually have to do [11:20] i want to config it with my wordpress so when ppl will register with their mails, my server could send them password [11:20] how to do that? [11:21] ^ [11:22] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [11:23] I love #windows-server [11:23] people come in, asking question and the whole channel ignores it [11:24] maybe wrong time [11:25] =) [11:26] slackytude: most of those people are probably in an Indian call center...trying to "learn" so they can take more freakin' jobs [11:26] ok that was out of line.. but not far from the truth [11:27] tewmten: how are you man? [11:27] hello Dominian [11:27] hey dtanner [11:27] trist007 (n=trist007@cpe-68-203-185-145.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:28] hello everyone [11:28] hey trist007 [11:28] hey man, you still up? [11:28] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) joined ##slackware. [11:28] Dominian: :) [11:29] trist007: i crashed for 4 or 5 hours [11:31] Hey guys I got a question, I have a new Toshiba Satellite M305D-S4830. I'm using slackware 12.2, Xfce 4.4.3, kernel 2.6.27.7 [11:31] arcaos (n=chatzill@190.177.190.138) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:31] dtanner: hey man [11:31] dtanner: Im good.. finishing up some work before I leave the office. hows things with you? [11:32] I have apci deprecated disabled, so I'm using /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1 to get my laptop battery info [11:32] tewmten: good , thanks, I am having breakfast right now =) [11:32] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-111-25.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:32] is there an easy way to make a script that would 'cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1/charge_now' to my desktop as an applet [11:32] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:33] cause the xfce4-battery-monitor plugin, uses /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/charge, which I have disabled via kernel config [11:33] Dominian, heh [11:33] Dominian, you seen my noobfarm entry about #windows? [11:38] dtanner: ah yes the time difference, it was just 4:20 here 20 minutes ago so I should go and spend my new salary on some nice hashish :D [11:38] yummyy tewmten. [11:38] hell yeah [11:38] i am outta here , giong to crash for a while [11:38] later [11:38] later dude [11:39] why i can't send mail via sendmail -v my@mail.com ? [11:39] fevel_ (n=fevel@201008024101.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:39] whould i config it? [11:41] mikk0 (i=mikk01@YKMDCXIII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [11:41] sloin (n=sloyn@193.1.184.254) joined ##slackware. [11:41] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:41] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:42] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.52.34) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:43] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [11:43] later dtanner [11:43] nvision (n=nvision@g229123050.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [11:44] fevel (n=fevel@201008016203.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:45] having real trouble working oun the *right* way to print through a windows 2k3 box... i know how i *can* do it... but i dont want the password living in plain text in the conf [11:45] i hate printers [11:45] fevel__ (n=fevel@201008022098.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:46] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:50] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [11:51] fevel (n=fevel@201008016203.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:52] dimmerbold: ?? 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[11:56] acidchild: nut much [11:57] finishing up my work for today [11:57] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:57] about to go buy some nice hashish [11:57] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-93ed5729e1527895) joined ##slackware. [11:57] dude stfu [11:57] :( [11:57] are you comming over? [11:57] sit down and smoke a lil of that with me? :) [11:57] haha [11:57] nah the commute is way too far dude [11:58] *sigh* aye [11:58] i feel like crap [11:58] i need to go get some coffee or something. [11:59] do so [11:59] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:00] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:00] giuppy (n=giuppy@host14-169-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:01] tewmten: you afk now? ;/ [12:02] fevel_ (n=fevel@201008024101.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Success [12:03] almiost [12:04] <_RadioHead> init ~ [12:04] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.20) left irc: "Leaving" [12:04] apparently, a lot of stuff was changed in 2.6.29 >.> [12:04] aye [12:05] I forsee a lot of bugfixes for that one [12:05] SpacePlod: what's up? [12:05] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:06] hey...I got Slackware on the Mac Pro Tower. Not too bad using rEFIt. [12:06] Hermaniette (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:06] took a couple of tries, though. [12:06] cool. [12:06] It's crazy seeing 8 penguins on boot. [12:07] well im outta here [12:07] laters [12:07] heh, fun [12:07] yeah, Im going as well [12:07] see ya [12:07] fevel__ (n=fevel@201008022098.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:07] see ya tewmten [12:07] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-93ed5729e1527895) left irc: [12:07] and later slackytude =p [12:07] I'm having a hard time with the grapics, though. Once I get it all up to date, I'll start messing with video. XFCE looks like an f'in comic book. [12:09] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8842F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "run away!" [12:09] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:09] yeah, I had the same problem. I'm still trying to get the partitions right with bootchump. [12:09] does avahi run automagically on a default install??? [12:09] bah! use gparted. [12:09] I have avahi running, I want to shutdown un nessasary prosseses [12:10] why don't ppl use fdisk anymore [12:10] and postgresql is running do I need that? [12:11] trist007: AFAIK fdisk does not support EFI [12:11] gparted does. [12:11] what's EFI? [12:12] it's the "bios" for macs [12:12] ah, yeah unified firmware [12:13] right...I love fdisk - use it daily. Just can't on a mac. [12:13] ic, is it possible to install MacOS as a virtual in VirtualBox in slackware [12:13] <3 cfdisk :> [12:14] woo for curses [12:14] i heard somewhere, that when you install MacOs, it checks if there is some apple chip on the mobo before it proceeds [12:14] Action: dimmerbold tried cfdisk...it kept showing an empty disk. [12:15] use fdisk [12:16] I recently used qtparted hehe, last supported ages ago, to resize ntfs partition, but it didn't resize the filesystem, so I had to run ntfsresize [12:16] I tried it as well and had the same issue. On the Mac, it just showed the free space. When I partitioned it - rEFIt refused to see it. [12:16] spook: not on EFI (unless I'm missing something) [12:17] ...we were talking about partitioning a Mac for Slack install. [12:17] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) left irc: Success [12:19] Anyway, I'm off to fix the vid on the Mac. [12:19] dimmerbold: let me know if you run into the same issue when you get it going. (X vid borked). [12:20] k [12:20] because he'll rub it better for you [12:20] but only if you ask nice [12:21] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:22] hey guys, I have an AMD Turion(tm) X2 Ultra Dual-Core Mobile ZM-80, been using 386 cpu family, should I select another cpu family to get more out of my amd proc? [12:22] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-168-230.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:22] unless you recompile your entire system, it won't make much difference [12:23] and even then [12:23] recompile my entire system? so i'd have to rebuild the kernel [12:23] and remove all the i386 packages [12:23] ? [12:23] and the toolchain. And more. [12:23] it's not worth it [12:23] what's the toolchain? [12:24] farabi_1 (n=farabi@85.27.58.115) joined ##slackware. [12:24] doug_ (n=doug@cpe-75-82-207-168.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:24] farabi_1 (n=farabi@85.27.58.115) left irc: Client Quit [12:25] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:25] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:26] theoffset (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:26] thanks guys, have a good one, I'm out [12:27] trist007 (n=trist007@cpe-68-203-185-145.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:27] I compiled the 2.6.29 kernel using the same options I used for the 2.6.28.x kernels and found that on two systems (fw/router and a desktop) that after several minutes, the network interfaces (including lo) would stop sending/receiving traffic. Two other systems appear to work just fine. Has anyone else experienced that behavior? [12:29] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [12:29] doug_: ask again? [12:29] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] :-) Sorry, was in the wrong window when I hit the up arrow and return. [12:32] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-13.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:35] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [12:35] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [12:35] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:35] dtaylormi (n=dtaylorm@152.52.16.3) joined ##slackware. [12:36] konus (n=konus@staticline2725.toya.net.pl) left irc: "( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )" [12:37] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:37] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [12:37] jfjfjf (n=grgsdsd@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fec8df00-78.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [12:38] is it easy to upgrade 12.1 to 12.2? [12:38] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:38] if you're ever to buy any hardware labeled "Tsunami", don't do it. save your nerves. it's the second external hdd box that is trying to die on me at the moment... [12:39] yah for sure. [12:39] harddrive or enclosuer [12:39] john_dee: do you mean Tsunami network hw? [12:40] bash: hash: access.db: not found when i trying to run hash access.db. why is that? [12:41] acidchild, enclosure. first one died in 6 months. now it's time for this one. six months too :) hdd is ok [12:42] john_dee, Tsunami sux :) [12:42] stybla, i'm talking about hdd box, but won't be surprised if it's the same with network hw [12:42] i hate that :( [12:42] l4m3rx, double that! [12:42] jfjfjf , yeah .... it is .... just read UPGRADE.txt .. [12:42] konus (n=konus_fn@ns1.noxis.org) joined ##slackware. [12:43] stybla, what hw are you talking about anyway? NAS? [12:43] u have to upgrade 2 pkg in init1 /glib-solibs and pkgtools/ and then upgradepkg --install-new * [12:43] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] on all other pkgz [12:43] stybla, if yes, avoid it! [12:43] is the something so new that it would be worth to do? [12:43] john_dee: ah. yes, i know some of their (???) network products. or may be it's just same name;; no, 5GHz AP. [12:43] stybla, nah, never seen any of that [12:44] john_dee: nothing to regret, really :) [12:44] jfjfjf well ... +- nothing really .... but 1y is a long time for open source software ... [12:44] stybla, there are 750 gigs of info inside. makes me nervous ^) [12:44] and slack13 will come soon [12:44] so it's not a bad idea to upgrade [12:44] stybla, oh, the APs :) [12:45] john_dee: they suck balls :p [12:45] stybla, is it taiwan? [12:45] when is slacj 13 coming? [12:46] jfjfjf, think fall [12:46] there has NEVER been a set release date for any slackware release. [12:46] maybe better wait until then then [12:46] 6 months is nothing in slacktime :) [12:46] thrice`, still 8-10 months between releases [12:47] mmm.... with kde4.2 out , maybe less [12:47] heh, it'll be here when it's done... stop yer bellyachin [12:47] if you want bleeding edge, go run gentoo [12:48] too bleeding, too edge [12:48] thanks, pass [12:48] :) [12:48] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:48] Action: Zordrak is happy with -current [12:48] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:48] edge sounds so unstable :) [12:49] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:50] lostin (n=austinpe@adsl-222-70-94.jan.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [12:51] SuN|2 (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:52] is the vsftpd package fixed in 12.2.? [12:52] was there a problem with it in 12.1 ? [12:52] SuN (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:53] i donät remember the details, they are on other machine, somebody in here or slackbuilds fixed it [12:53] but it resuklted in that vsftpd couldnät accept ssl connections [12:53] slackbuilds.org doesn't host any scripts that build stock software. [12:53] oh ...i don't use ssl on my ftp, so that's why i didn't know :) [12:54] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:54] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:54] dtaylormi (n=dtaylorm@152.52.16.3) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:54] i think it was specifically filezilla client connecting into ssl enabled vsftpd [12:55] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:55] since it's the only client doing it correctly [12:56] the updated packages for 12.2 didn't have the fix [12:56] 12.1 i menan [12:56] jfjfjf on my slackware is working perfect [12:57] did you connect with filezilla tls `? [12:57] doug_ (n=doug@cpe-75-82-207-168.socal.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:57] try it on my ftp://ftp.tntslack.homeip.net [12:57] jfjfjf: vsftpd has never been broken [12:57] learn to read your log files. [12:58] Nick change: SuN|2 -> SuN [12:58] this is brutal http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/3/24/460 [12:58] it wasn't broken, but when filezilla corrected their ssl thing, it stopped wortking with vsftpd [12:58] nullboy: hey dude. [12:58] yo man [12:59] Action: acidchild is excited this morning [12:59] i'm going to put a offer in on a condo [12:59] :> [12:59] sweet [12:59] tntslack, what user name can i use? [12:59] acidchild: was that the one you showed pictures from earlier this week? [12:59] when i first saw it, i think i made a white patch in my under pants. [12:59] nullboy, oh man, linus is always brutal [12:59] BP{k}: yes, but a bigger and nicer one :P [12:59] acidchild: nice :) [12:59] 80ft of windows :P [13:00] 10ft cielings [13:00] 2 toilets... and breakfest island. [13:00] Action: edman007 puts in offer of $10 [13:00] edman007: dude i wish [13:00] :D [13:00] ok, 50$ [13:00] and someone gave me 1/8th of weed [13:00] ;D [13:01] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl9-246-233.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:01] and my proxy SUCKS, i can't browse https right now :( [13:01] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [13:01] jfjfjf anonymous without password [13:01] what type of proxy is it? [13:01] tntslack: people use 'ftp' these days :-) [13:02] acidchild i am an old one :D [13:02] acidchild, returns 'Apache/1.3.33 ' on its error pages, and seems to be running on a Sun server [13:02] edman007: ah [13:02] but it sucks [13:02] apache proxy [13:03] tntslack, critical error? [13:03] do you have shell access? or is it just one on a random proxy? [13:03] NicklasSoren (n=soren@c83-252-61-80.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [13:03] nylon is a wicked socks5 proxy [13:03] acidchild, required proxy run my my school...i HAVE to use it [13:03] DeeeeP (i=1003@81.193.101.204) joined ##slackware. [13:03] i got a local socks over ssh, but thats really slow... [13:03] 530 Please login with USER and PASS. [13:04] oh, without pass [13:04] you cannot use anonymous in filezilla without pass [13:05] jfjfjf well i can't tale you my pass, but i am sure is working fine [13:05] Can someone help me with httpd? I want to appear a www directory in every users home directory? [13:05] skibur (i=1000@12.197.205.86) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:05] tntslack, have you tried to connect to it with filezilla client explicit tls/ssl on? [13:05] Seziphas (n=user@ppp-94-67-221-254.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:06] jfjfjf not with filezilla but with ftp client. and was working [13:06] jfjfjf: did you check your logs? [13:06] but filezilla is the only one that does ssl part correctly [13:07] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:07] free ones at least [13:07] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] NicklasSoren go to /etc/httpd/httpd.conf [13:07] there is a line #Include /etc/httpd/extra/httpd-userdir.conf [13:07] make it Include /etc/httpd/extra/httpd-userdir.conf [13:07] and restart your apache [13:07] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.204.128) joined ##slackware. [13:07] after that every user with public_html dir in his home can share filez [13:08] and thay will be in http://host/~user [13:08] Yes [13:08] l4m3rx what shall i type in DirectoryRoot then? [13:09] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [13:09] Ojg (n=Ojg@ojg-laptop.tekproj.bth.se) left irc: "Leaving" [13:09] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:09] sloin (n=sloyn@193.1.184.254) left irc: "Leaving" [13:09] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [13:10] "Vsftpd prior to 2.0.7 will not properly shutdown TLS connections. FileZilla clients version 3.1.0.1 and later will issue a fatal error due to potential security issues with this bug." [13:10] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [13:10] i guess /srv/httpd/htdocs or /var/www/htdocs or whatever u wish ... [13:10] i guess that was it, seems to be fixed in 2.0.7 [13:10] as long as nobody has read access to da folder [13:10] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-58-107.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [13:11] jfjfjf , i don't think da shuting down of connection has something to do with authorization ... [13:11] but i may be mistakin' [13:11] no, it lets you in but doesnt work correctly [13:12] Trelos4crazy (n=asaddf@ppp-94-68-128-152.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:12] all kinds of problems [13:13] it was a problem in 12.1 vsftd and updates didn't help it needed some special compile options, which i can't remember anymore [13:13] people still use FTP? [13:13] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [13:13] sure, why not, i just d/l slack 12.2 1ith it [13:14] acidchild mmm people still use http ? [13:14] :) [13:14] what is an new alternative for ftp? [13:15] sftp [13:15] thats slow [13:15] lol [13:16] sftp isn't slow [13:16] look at this one http://ventura.craigslist.org/cpg/1089143334.html [13:16] "be able to program in word" .... [13:16] wtf [13:16] sftp was ssh ftp? [13:16] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:16] hahahah [13:16] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA [13:16] i wanna become ms word programmer :P [13:17] lol [13:17] jfjfjf: sftp is ftp over ssh yes [13:17] that's sad [13:17] I know a customer that does all their wordprocessing in excel, claims it formats better. [13:17] fail [13:17] Pa^2: yeah but can they code in word? that's leet [13:17] l33t [13:17] Dominian, that is slower than ftp [13:17] i didn't know MS Word was a language [13:17] You can do some basic vbscript in word hehe [13:18] jfjfjf: Not for me. [13:18] jfjfjf: both about the same really [13:18] test it, d/l same file like 1GB and llook which one comes faster [13:18] VBA [13:18] i hate VBA >>> [13:18] jfjfjf: Who gives a shit? I just told you.. for ME it makes no difference. [13:18] >.> [13:19] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host81-132-218-197.range81-132.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:19] I could care less what your personal opinion of sftp is.. works just fine for me and convincing me to use a less secure protocol such as ftp will end in failure [13:19] somebody asked why to use ftp and i explained that thats why [13:19] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:19] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host81-132-218-197.range81-132.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:20] You want faster throughput? Buy more band width. [13:20] heh [13:21] thats not even an argument [13:21] pete9 (n=slackerp@host81-132-218-197.range81-132.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:21] pete9 (n=slackerp@host81-132-218-197.range81-132.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:21] Nick change: duryodhan -> duryo [13:22] unsecure ftp is needed now , and will be needed in future :) [13:22] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host81-132-218-197.range81-132.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [13:22] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:22] l4m3rx: Just as long as you recognize that the username and password are transmitted in clear text, easily snooped along any network hop, unsecured ftp rules. [13:22] even tls securef ftp is faster than sftp [13:23] what abount anonymous [13:23] someone's gonna sniff that :] [13:23] jfjfjf: I'd like to see where you're getting your information from [13:23] so what ? [13:23] Dominian: his arse. [13:23] agreed [13:23] I use both on a daily basis.. there is no true diffrence in the speeds [13:23] next you're going to tell me that rsync+ssh is slow :) [13:23] d/l a 1GB file [13:23] l4m3rx: Also, the details of what you're doing are transmitted cleartext. ie: "GET /warez.iso" or "GET movie.mpg" [13:24] jfjfjf: I download 5GB files.. no difference in speed [13:24] Action: eviljames nods at Dominian [13:24] and the great thing about sftp is.. it stays connected the entire time.. unlike ftp where it disconnects then reconnects for every single file you have to upload. [13:24] yeah ...so ? if someone wanna sniff how i download packages form da slack mirror , i don't have a problem with that ... [13:24] I use rsync+ssh every night to synchronize hundreds of gigs of business data. [13:24] my point is , in some cases encyption is not need [13:24] eviljames: same here [13:24] in some cases! not all da time. [13:25] l4m3rx: In some cases, certainly. In other cases, it is foolish to do so. [13:25] ie: "GET /file-to-give-to-wikileaks" and such [13:25] well i don't know what kind of systems you have, but iäve tested it with several times on different computers and sftp is always slower [13:25] Buy better hardware [13:26] Like I said.. show me the benchmarks [13:26] benchmark shmenchmark. On a reasonable core2 system with a couple of gigs of ram (acquired for under $400USD) sftp can fully saturate a 100MB link. [13:26] sftp can saturate a 100MB link even on old hardware :P [13:26] is there some bechmarks proving they are the same? [13:26] heh [13:27] scp full saturates my core duo laptop with ICH7 sata when i use gigabit [13:27] Dominian: Well, not on a 486.. it can saturate a 10MB [13:27] the disks are the slow down [13:27] btw, do you test between windows client and linux server? [13:27] jfjfjf i think that if there's a diff. in speeds it will be so little , that it wount be a problem... [13:29] mikk0 (i=mikk01@YKMDCXIII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: [13:30] well of course it could be a number of things slowing it, who knows [13:31] Dominian: meep :> [13:33] acidchild: sup [13:35] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [13:38] tribeca (n=vedo@host162-103-static.20-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao alla prossima" [13:40] theoffset (n=ismael@132.254.52.243) joined ##slackware. [13:40] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) joined ##slackware. [13:41] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:41] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:42] firebird619: ping [13:42] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021906]" [13:43] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[13:50] dtanner: Yeah, I haven't went through the manual yet, but what I have read, it is a really nice program with alot of features. [13:51] firebird619: some people/reviews are saying it is better than Pro-tools [13:51] dtanner: I compiled what was listed on SBo. [13:51] gotcha [13:52] dtanner: I think it can do alot, it's just a matter of learning about it and reading it. [13:52] dtanner: I figured I would see if I can get it working with my keyboard today to record in, etc. I think it's just a matter of a setting or to for it to work. [13:52] I think i am going to build a slackware-studio based on 12.2 and interface it with me recording board(s) [13:53] firebird619: its main purpose in life is to record input so it should be rather easy , select a track , route your keyboard to that track and hit record and play. [13:54] grazymax (n=grazymax@host41-4-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:54] dtanner: That sounds like a cool idea. After googling, looking at linux-audio.org, etc. Linux has some really nice audio tools to use. [13:54] Kinda [13:54] depends on if you need low latency or not [13:54] dtanner: Yeah, it should be rather easy, I just haven't played with it much. [13:54] Hi straterra. How are you? [13:55] firebird619: digidesign makes an interface to connect to pc DAWS so you can have multiple inputs at once that would well with ardour, along with some mic-preamps it would be sweet [13:55] hello straterra [13:57] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [13:58] gabriel (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) left irc: "Leaving" [13:59] linux and *nix derivatives changed my life :( [13:59] isnt linux a *nix derivative? [13:59] i thought so [13:59] a unix-like system [13:59] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.244.236) joined ##slackware. [14:00] yes of course it is [14:00] Linux is a unix clone not derivate [14:00] what is a unix deriative? [14:00] im getting curious too [14:00] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:01] jfjfjf: Something that descended from Unix. [14:01] he is prolly talking about a fork of a UNIX being a derivative [14:01] jfjfjf: Not something that is a clone of Unix, descended from Minix. [14:01] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) left irc: "I believe in christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything [14:01] o.O [14:01] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:01] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.11) joined ##slackware. [14:02] isn't unix a pretected trademark or so and wasn't that the reason for linux to born? [14:02] no.. [14:02] http://www.netneurotic.net/mac/unix/images/UNIX.png [14:02] nvision (n=nvision@g229123050.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:02] linux was basically linus's answer to minix [14:02] which was a unix clone [14:03] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:03] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [14:04] mib_pphjpxxw (i=57485991@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7b3617aa371bfa77) joined ##slackware. [14:04] mib_pphjpxxw (i=57485991@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7b3617aa371bfa77) left ##slackware. [14:04] heh, it's a more complex i imagined according to that pic :) [14:04] jfjfjf: haha much, much more inbred than you guessed probably :D [14:04] dtanner: In ardour's preferences, there is settings for MIDI. I think it's just a matter of getting the right ID numbers in there. [14:04] jfjfjf: Notably, Linux is outside of the Unix family tree. [14:04] firebird619: gl [14:05] firebird619: depending on your device, you may want to use software (ie: TiMidity) [14:05] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:05] dtanner: I found a section in ardour manual for MIDI configuration. [14:05] Lectus (n=chatzill@189.97.10.220) joined ##slackware. [14:06] where is slack in that tree? [14:06] eviljames: Yeah, I am using a Casio Keyboard and USB to MIDI converter. I know it works with Linux, Rosegarden picks it up right away. [14:06] ahh, cool. [14:06] firebird619: sweet [14:06] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.11) left irc: "Leaving." [14:06] jfjfjf: http://www.suramya.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/44218linuxdistrotimelinqv0.png [14:07] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.11) joined ##slackware. [14:07] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:07] dtanner: http://www.cccmz.de/~tanjeff/ardour_manual/sn-midi-configuration.html in case your interested. [14:07] jfjfjf: Slackware is one of the originals, and is the oldest surviving Linux distro. [14:07] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [14:08] firebird619: this could be interesting and probably help one understand the gui side of the linuxaudio workings much better. behind the scenes what is going on I am reffering to. -> http://ltsb.sourceforge.net/ [14:08] yes, i know that [14:08] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:08] dtanner: It says that ardour doesn't support MIDI sequencing, for now anyway. [14:09] dtanner: I haven't looked into it much yet, but LMMS might be another interesting piece of software. http://lmms.sourceforge.net/ [14:09] prolly have to stick with rosegarden for sequencing but it *should* at least record a keyboard track i am sure track. you need a straight line-in more than likely to either mic your keyboard speaker cabinet or staight line-IN , like the digidesign unit I talked about earlier [14:09] dtanner: LMMS site says it's an alternative to FL Studio. [14:10] firebird619: more hardware =) [14:10] hey, was in here t'other day and was directed toward a repo with a PHP slackbuild on it, but I can't find it now... was told that there are a number of public repos with these builds on 'em and looking for some atm for my new server box =D [14:12] dtanner: Looks like LMMS supports MIDI. The wiki says "You can have fun with your MIDI-keyboard and much more." [14:13] dtanner: Doesn't look like LMMS would be hard to compile. It has much the same deps as ardour and rosegarden. [14:14] dtanner: Yay. There's a slackbuild. :) [14:14] on SBo. [14:14] nice [14:14] firebird619: i am going ot track my order on ups to see what truck or city it is in now :P [14:15] dtanner: Well, I know what the next software will be to try for me. Should I pastebin the deps for you in case you want to try it out some day? [14:16] dtanner: cool. Then you'll know how close your order is to you. Where did it ship out of? [14:17] firebird619: sweet! it wshiipped in three boxes and is already in Dallas as of 11:00 am this morning ( I am in austin so not far away now ) =) [14:18] dtanner: Nice. It's about 196 miles away. It might get there tomorrow. [14:18] it shipped out of kentucky AND OK CIty ( three boxes ) must have came from whichever warehouse had them in stock to ship from different places [14:18] firebird619: yup =0 [14:18] firebird619: i need to put my monitor stands together [14:19] firebird619: want me to take some pics of my studio project hardware so / setup so far ? [14:19] dtanner: Yeah. That shouldn't take to long. [14:19] dtanner: If you want, it's up to you. [14:19] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [14:19] NicklasSoren (n=soren@c83-252-61-80.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: "- nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -" [14:19] dtanner: I'm going to build LMMS and see what it's like. SBo has 0.4.2 and the latest stable is 0.4.3 so I'm going to build that with the slackbuild. [14:22] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [14:23] dtanner: LMMS only requires two more deps than rosegarden and ardour. qt and fluidsynth. [14:24] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.115.148.153) joined ##slackware. [14:24] oh no, in 2.6.29 tuz only shows up 6 times! [14:24] i feel cheated [14:24] tux has no problem being there when i need him [14:25] Hi edman007. How are you? [14:25] ok... [14:25] i turned on an experimental option in the kernel though...and it failed to boot :( [14:25] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "link closed" [14:25] now i got to go and file a bug report :( [14:25] :( [14:27] firebird619: http://picasaweb.google.com/slacktop/Studio?authkey=Gv1sRgCJz44b7dyPv5UA# [14:27] HeatHawk[AP] (n=kevin@nat-vlan10.algonquincollege.com) joined ##slackware. [14:28] firebird619: you have been up to your ears in deps the past few days =) [14:28] dtanner: Here's the build list for LMMS http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11303 [14:28] firebird619: i will be up to my ears in it as soon as i get my studio box ready to rip with 12.2 on it [14:28] ok copying it now to a text file firebird619 , thanks [14:28] dtanner: Heh. Yeah I have, but it hasn't been too bad. What's nice is that the three programs so far pretty much have the same deps. [14:29] hmm, is DMA IO or memory related? [14:30] dtanner: Thanks for posting the pictures. That's some nice equipment. [14:30] firebird619: so starting with rosebarden and deps you were setting yourself closer to compiling lmms and ardour [14:30] firebird619: the one of the guitars did not show there finish very goos , but there they are =) [14:30] rosegarden* [14:31] dtanner: I like the strat-style ones better than the Gibson-style ones [14:31] dtanner: Yeah. That worked out great. I had qt4 installed already from another program, so really I just had to install fluidsynth. [14:31] dtanner: But that is a nice collection, for sure. [14:31] dtanner: Now you need something with a Floyd Rose to do whammy bombs [14:32] eviljames: yeah, i have never used whammmy bars much in my style of playing , but i do need at least one guitar wiuth a bar , i think i will put one on the gold lespaul custom you see there [14:32] dtanner: Oops, I put just qt in that post. It should be qt4. sorry. [14:32] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [14:33] strankan (n=strankan@213.112.205.43) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [14:34] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:34] bittin (i=bittin@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-a06e8947ff060546) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:34] np firebird619 [14:34] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [14:34] i have the stock qt stuff form 12.2 installed [14:34] dtanner: lmms is still compiling, then I'll check it out and let you know what it's like. [14:34] firebird619: cool [14:34] dtanner: I play pretty much Metal exclusively. Whammy bars come in handy :D [14:35] this is making want to get out my other box that i am installing a fresh 12.2 on and building a slackware-studio, much like you are headed towards [14:36] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:36] dtanner: Go for it. Why not. :D [14:36] eviljames: sweet , i started out playing southern rock and metal many years ago , i still practice a LOT wioth Judas Priest albums to keep my licks tight =) [14:36] Anybody know of an official site with Computer Science Journals? [14:36] ThunderWolf (n=chmod777@bl7-221-195.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:37] I get nothing in Google, well unofficial stuff [14:37] I reckon all IRC channelso that spend a 24 hour period with no conversation should be closed >:-| [14:38] hi [14:38] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:38] i cant connect to the internet with wireless connection on slackware 12.2 [14:38] Ok [14:38] dtanner: LMMS is done building. It's not in the multimedia menu and lmms from cli doesn't work. I'll have to find where it's at. [14:39] what kind of nic? [14:39] ThunderWolf: is that all you're going to tell us? [14:39] intel 2200bg [14:39] lol [14:39] listen im a newbie [14:39] ok, so you have the proper firmware support. is your network encrypted? [14:39] i need to know what to do [14:39] firebird619: do you use kde or gnome ? gnome has a menu editor and i am not sure about kde but prolly so , [14:40] xfce [14:40] i think xfce has a menu editor too [14:40] because when i use kde's wifi manager it detects my wlan [14:40] IIRC [14:40] ThunderWolf: is your network encrypted? [14:40] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:40] thrice` no [14:40] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [14:41] how does one encrypt a network? [14:41] ... [14:41] dtanner: Yeah I think it does too. I first need to find where it installed to so I can point the menu item or even cli in the right direction. [14:41] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network [14:41] jfjfjf: enable wep or wpa/wpa2 [14:41] oh that [14:41] ffs! [14:41] firebird619: so you have installed so far .. rosagarden , ardour and lmms with all the deps required correct ? [14:41] you can also use ipsec or a vpn [14:41] Zordrak: no shit huh [14:42] dtanner: Yes [14:42] firebird619: you can always make a .desktop file for the menu item [14:42] 2007 Microsoft Office system encountered an error during setup [14:42] thats IT [14:42] no message no nothing [14:42] drink , thirsty bbs [14:42] dtanner: Yeah. I could do that. [14:42] vatgas (n=val@123.145.78.196) left irc: "Leaving." [14:43] fscking [14:43] wine! [14:43] does 12.2. automaticly detect wireless cards? [14:43] i have a small issue.. so im told to upgrade to the latest wine... which breaks EVERYTHING! [14:44] dtanner: I get: Notice: could not set realtime priority. and lmms: symbol lookup error: lmms: undefined symbol: _ZN8QPainter10drawPixmapERK7QPointFRK7QPixmap. [14:45] trying to start lmms from cli. [14:45] I have not a clue man [14:46] dtanner: Well, I'll have to fix that first because it's causing lmms to not start. :) [14:46] I don't think it's stopping because of that realtime message, but the second undefined symbol one. [14:46] firebird619: maybe it is because something else has the grabbed the audio and maybe lmms does not like to share [14:47] firebird619: That looks like the linker is hunting for something. [14:47] shudown any music daemon or player and try it again ( just a wild guess ) [14:47] jfjfjf: Certain ones, probably. [14:47] eviljames: Any idea how to fix it. [14:47] firebird619: QT, it seems (QPixmap is my hint) [14:47] firebird619: does lmms require or want a specific version? [14:48] dtanner: Yeah, I can, I don't have any player's open right now. ardour and rosegarden are closed. [14:48] eviljames: qt4 which I have installed already. I'm also on -current. [14:49] firebird619: uhh.. if you're on currentmyou already *have* qt4 [14:49] Zordrak: uhh... that's what he said :D [14:49] yeah.. but very peculiarly [14:49] koojoo (n=zerafuze@74.13.62.15) joined ##slackware. [14:49] firebird619: Have you updated since kde4/qt4 was moved from testing? [14:49] eviljames: Yeah. [14:49] Zordrak: Nobody ever claimed normalcy from slackers ;) [14:50] firebird619: Perhaps modify the SlackBuild to point ./configure to a specific location for qt4? [14:50] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:50] firebird619: The first thing I would do is ensure that lmms is finding the correct qt, that is unless you removed qt3 entirely? [14:51] eviljames: I could try that, where would I point it? The slackbuild for lmms uses cmake. [14:51] eviljames: I haven't removed qt3. It's still installed. [14:51] oh, I'm pretty sure cmake should find the correct qt... [14:52] you should be able to tell it what you want it to use anyway [14:52] eviljames: Here's the result of ls /var/log/packages | grep qt. http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11304 [14:52] I don't know how qt4/qt3 are configured in -current tbh, but maybe check /etc/ld.so.conf to ensure the priority of qt4 over qt3 when linking is done at runtime. [14:53] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat074.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:54] ah, so qt3 is installed in /opt? (cat /var/log/packages/qt3*opt1 to be sure) [14:54] Action: Zordrak drools [14:54] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [14:54] firebird619: Note: I could be taking you way down the wrong path here. :D [14:54] Action: Zordrak 's coffee looks like toffee with grated chocolate on it [14:54] even though it's nothing but pure coffee [14:54] Action: eviljames is jealous. His coffee looks like pure black death. [14:55] eviljames: Here's ld.so.conf. http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11305 [14:55] i switched to tea now, coffee tweaks me out [14:56] eviljames: http://www.google.com/search?q=smart+cafe+hot+cafetiere+mug [14:56] firebird619: Try moving /usr/lib/qt-4.4.3/lib nearer to the top of the list, perhaps just after /usr/i486-slackware-linux/lib [14:56] Seziphas (n=user@ppp-94-67-221-254.home.otenet.gr) left irc: [14:56] eviljames: Ok, I'll give that a try. [14:56] firebird619: Then run ldconfig [14:57] eviljames: Ok, I did that. [14:57] eviljames: combined with freshly ground french roast from a local coffee shop [14:57] £3 for 250g [14:57] ThunderWolf, got wireless working already? [14:58] firebird619: running ldconfig as root should update things. run lmms again afterward as your user and see if you get the same error [14:58] eviljames: Yes, I get the same thing. [14:58] Zordrak: europeans don't drink coffee from big ass, american sized cups, do they? [14:58] firebird619: when i googled for "Notice: could not set realtime priority." i got many results [14:58] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:59] no, we drink staright from the pot :) [14:59] dtanner: Yes, me too. [14:59] antler: nothing big-ass about this mug... but i wouldnt know... im english.. european is a different category [14:59] firebird619: The issue above is not realtime. Note QPixmap, QPainter, drawPixmap etc [14:59] dtanner: 652,000 :) [14:59] i think eviljames is right though [15:00] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) joined ##slackware. [15:00] firebird619: With the different ld.so.conf settings, try rebuilding the lmms packge [15:00] eviljames: Ok. [15:00] especially if you have two versions of qt on your box ? [15:01] dtanner: That's why I advised the priority switch in ld.so.conf (though, again, if someone knows better than I please correct me) [15:01] eviljames: It's rebuilding now. I'll let you know the results. Thanks for the help. [15:01] np [15:01] I do what I can. [15:02] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h141n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [15:06] hello guys, i've already posted this in the #xorg channel but I thought someone here might help me aswell, my scrollwheel on my mouse is extremely fast, is there any way to kinda slow it down? [15:06] jfjfjf (n=grgsdsd@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fec8df00-78.dhcp.inet.fi) left ##slackware. [15:07] Stutteringmatt: Each of the Desktop Environments handles that a little differently, plus your driver for the mouse might have an Accelerator in its options. [15:08] doeppjakab (n=doeppjak@82.77.126.236) joined ##slackware. [15:08] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:08] if so, how would I correct it if it were an driver issue? [15:08] Should that be the case, xorg.conf will have options for you [15:09] If you're using KDE, check the Control Centre's mouse options [15:09] i have a drive that i'm doing recovery on...this thing is like swiss cheese [15:09] It tastes good on a sandwhich? [15:09] it was a 2.5" Seagate inside of a USB case that was treated poorly [15:09] wtf? [15:10] wheres streetview in GE? [15:10] eviljames, what xorg options? [15:10] Zordrak: enable it in the left hand panel [15:10] Zordrak: then zoom into an area [15:11] ta [15:12] BP{k}: ping [15:12] Stutteringmatt: You'd have to check through a bunch of man pages for most of it. I'm not 100% on all the mouse driver options within xorg.conf [15:12] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [15:12] Stutteringmatt: However, I'd recommend looking through your DE's mouse options first if applicable. [15:13] eviljames: Same thing. :( [15:13] boo-urns. [15:13] ok eviljames , I did check thru the xfce mouse options without luck but thank you anyway [15:13] eviljames: What would be the next thing to try? [15:14] firebird619: I would rebuild the package but paying careful attention to the options of where it points for qt4 in case of static linking and such [15:14] eviljames, what DE do you use? [15:15] Stutteringmatt: Most of the time I use the command line via ssh :D [15:15] (: [15:15] i'm using kde4 now [15:16] eviljames, so slackware isn't your "main" distro than [15:16] Stutteringmatt: In my eyes, though kde4 > kde3 > xfce > e17 > windowmaker > fluxbox > bash > gnome [15:16] eviljames: die [15:16] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:16] haha [15:16] Stutteringmatt: slamd64 is my 'main' distro I guess you could say now. But I spend more time in OpenSolaris than Linux these days. [15:16] kde4 > fluxbox > xkce > * > gnome [15:16] eviljames: Where would be the best place to point it, /usr/lib/qt-4.4.3/lib? [15:17] it depends on the system for me though. my home server has x capability but most of the time i only need cli control of that system. my laptop uses slackware too but i use it in rl4 almost exclusively, save for having 1.21 million konsoles open [15:17] _arc_ (n=arc@85.17.65.14) joined ##slackware. [15:17] firebird619: You got it, sir. [15:17] firebird619: That is, of course, assuming that qt4 is actually at that location. [15:18] damnnit [15:18] Zordrak: a combination of xkcd and xfce = teh good. [15:18] eviljames: I ask because there's also a /usr/lib/qt4/lib. [15:18] i have a "copying" notify in kde4 that halted but wont go away [15:18] comes up whenever i get another notify [15:18] lol [15:18] I want to move my work workstation to FreeBSD [15:19] straterra, how come? [15:19] straterra: how is wifi and nvidia graphics support on FreeBSD? [15:19] Because Linux is freaking slow under high I/O [15:19] not good [15:19] nvidia support is fine [15:19] and..depends on the wireless chipset [15:19] intel 3945 [15:19] AFAIK, it works [15:19] firebird619: is /usr/lib/qt4 a link -> /usr/lib/qt-4.4.3 ? [15:19] i've been wanting to lookk into a *BSD to start using as a firewall/AP [15:20] I'm just tired of everything crawling when I have a few VM's open [15:20] eviljames: I'm sorry, but how do I check that. I was just looking at the cmake options. [15:20] firebird619: ls -l /usr/lib/qt4 [15:20] cake options [15:21] straterra, how many VM's are we talking about here? [15:21] 4? [15:21] thrice`: Thanks. [15:21] eviljames: Yes, it is. [15:21] straterra, what are you doing with 4? [15:21] My job o.O [15:21] firebird619: Ah, so the two are functionally interchangeable for your purposes I believe. [15:21] replay (i=1000@69.26.207.147) joined ##slackware. [15:22] wich is? [15:22] Server/network admin [15:22] cool [15:23] eviljames: Ok. I would put that into the slackbuild then right, pointing it to /usr/lib/qt4/lib or /usr/lib/qt-4.4.3/lib? [15:23] my job is being a secret agent, but it's a secret so don't mention it to anyone [15:23] straterra: only 4? [15:23] pfft [15:24] Right now, yes [15:24] The more I use Linux, the more it pisses me off :/ [15:24] using ESXi? [15:24] no [15:24] Workstation [15:24] ahh [15:24] my poor system can only handle two KVM VMs at a time [15:24] is it -l y -c n or -l n -c y ? [15:24] cant remember [15:24] man pkgtool [15:24] :P [15:24] bah [15:25] i think the 1st one [15:25] firebird619: Indeed. You might want to read up on cmake if you're unfamiliar with it as to how those parameters are set. [15:25] This is only a Core 2 Quad with 4gigs of ram [15:25] Zordrak: /sbin/makepkg -l y -c n [15:25] firebird619: I, myself, am quite unfamiliar, having not used it since I was building kde4 betas last year :D [15:25] nullboy: ta [15:25] thought so [15:25] straterra: That's why you should wtich to solaris :D [15:25] slowlaris? [15:25] lol [15:26] eviljames: Yes, that is what I am trying to do, figure out what to put to point it to qt4. I'm unfamiliar with cmake as well. [15:26] Action: nullboy puts on his nomex underwear [15:26] I'd use FBSD over Slowlaris [15:26] straterra: Just saying that shows you don't really know Solaris anymore :D [15:26] Trelos4crazy (n=asaddf@ppp-94-68-128-152.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:26] Of course not [15:26] I know, old habits are hard to break... but get with the times :D [15:26] I haven't used Solaris in years [15:26] eviljames: how about wifi AP mode support in Solaris? [15:26] nullboy: I never said it was perfect. [15:27] ;) [15:27] lol [15:27] this drive is going to be recovering data for days [15:27] How large? [15:28] ccarrara_BRA (i=rzvd@189.20.105.68) joined ##slackware. [15:28] it's been running for an hour now and has only made it to the 3GB marker, out of 40GB [15:28] bzyk (n=bzyk@dys117.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:28] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:28] btw..a DD to a good, fast drive, then recovering will be faster..especially on multiple passes [15:28] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:28] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: "Reconnecting..." [15:28] dd won't work here [15:28] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [15:28] i need to use ddrescue for this one [15:28] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [15:28] nullboy: I had to do a similar repair, 1TB though. It took 6 days to go through the drive twice :D [15:28] Hello, someone know this message: "sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enables, doesn't support DPO or FUA"????? [15:28] WindMaker (n=Administ@190.232.0.239) joined ##slackware. [15:28] is kde5 worth using as it is today? [15:29] oh sorry kde3 [15:29] WindMaker (n=Administ@190.232.0.239) left ##slackware. [15:29] BAH kde4** [15:29] hahahha [15:29] I run KDE7 :P [15:29] Stutteringmatt: i'm using it but i've installed an svn version of k3b instead of the version currently in the slackware-current branch [15:29] Stutteringmatt: Originally I was going to respond with a sarcastic response to the kde5 typo, then a thoughtufl one for the kde3 statement. kde4, though. I use it anytime I'm in Linux and think it is great. [15:30] straterra: KDe17 ? [15:30] hah [15:30] eviljames, did you build it from source? [15:30] btw guys, last night i managed to burn a full test DVD using k3b svn r944158 under kde4 in current [15:30] fluxNome [15:30] nullboy: nice [15:30] nullboy: email pat! [15:30] ;) [15:30] Stutteringmatt: I had to originally, I was doing it back in the beta/rc days, but now there are good slackware/slamd64 packages for it, so I don't bother. [15:31] Stutteringmatt: Compiling kde4 from source is a long, arduous procedure. Buy a beer for someone who does it for you :D [15:31] on Sbo? [15:31] Stutteringmatt: in -current [15:31] ok [15:31] i might go at it [15:32] eviljames, so I would just download all the kde*-4.2 packages? [15:33] Stutteringmatt: I would rsync the slackware-current tree (6 - 8 GB, but worth it) [15:33] Stutteringmatt: Then "cd slackware-current/slackware && upgradepkg --install-new **/*tgz" [15:33] bzyk (n=bzyk@dys117.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:34] now.. you would have to explain that again cause I understood jack shit of it :) (don't look down upon me!!!!) [15:34] Stutteringmatt: Don't worry, everybody starts somewhere. :D [15:34] no [15:34] ccarrara_BRA (i=rzvd@189.20.105.68) left ##slackware ("[CyberScript]"). [15:34] everybody else starts at expert [15:34] Stutteringmatt: Essentially, I would download all of slackware-current from a mirror, then go into the folder that contains the packages, install everything that ends in tgz [15:34] AAARRRGGGHHH [15:34] it's just me who starts at zero :) [15:34] ahh [15:35] AFTER ive done all the fuckingc work to install it i find Zattoo requires fucking gnome! [15:35] so for example "rsync ftp.blabla.com/slackwarecurrent/" [15:35] Stutteringmatt: Yeah, I like rsync. Other people like ftp/http/whatever else. [15:35] As I mentioned above, I think rsync is the tits. I use it for syncing hundreds of gigs for the biz I work for, daily. [15:36] ah [15:36] I'll try it [15:36] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat074.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:37] Stutteringmatt: rsync -azrPv source dest [15:37] C00re_ (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) joined ##slackware. [15:37] Stutteringmatt: Though I'm pretty sure -a does -zr, it doesn't hurt to include them anyway [15:38] Zordrak: you can build most of the base gnome libs from SBo scripts [15:38] theblackerbox (n=sammo@78-105-244-219.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:38] Zordrak: i use gnome mplayer that way [15:38] i even have Firefox built with gnome vfs support [15:39] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:39] nullboy: yeah.. im on it now.. just working on findng the dep tree [15:39] eviljames, see you in a bit [15:39] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h141n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "Leaving" [15:39] How does he know he'll see me in a bit? [15:39] Maybe I won't be here when he gets back! [15:40] he has haxed your gibson [15:40] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [15:41] can someone tell me if this is right ? for i in ec* ; do echo "$i" && mv "$i" names/$(( ${NUM} + 1 )).html ; done [15:43] Agiofws, depends, what do you want to do ? >< [15:43] nullboy: any chance you know where the bottom of the dependency tree is? [15:43] NUM=0 ;for i in ec* ; do echo "$i" && mv "$i" names/$(( NUM++ )).html ; done ? [15:44] Zordrak: you can keep going nuts really [15:44] also, just try with : && ***echo*** mv ;) [15:44] NUM=0; for i in ec* ; do echo "$i" && mv "$i" names/$( printf "%03d" $(( NUM++ )) ).html ; done ? [15:44] Zordrak: i just stop where i need to for what i'm doing and if i need lower deps later it's not big deal [15:44] Kaapa: pong. [15:46] libgnome wants gconf wants gmodule...which i cant find [15:47] lostin (n=austinpe@adsl-222-70-94.jan.bellsouth.net) left irc: [15:47] Zordrak: my fragmented notes say this: ORBit2 ,GConf, gnome-mime-data, libbonobo, libgnome, libbonoboui, libtasn1, gnome-keyring, libgnomeui, gnome-doc-utils [15:47] ty [15:47] lets see if orbit2 will go in [15:48] you might need to start higher though, i don't know if ORBit2 has deps [15:48] Stutteringmatt (n=tr0nd@h141n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [15:48] installing slackware from current now ;) I would get kde4 automaticly then [15:48] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:48] nullboy: seems to not be complaining [15:49] cool [15:49] Stutteringmatt: yes [15:49] MrDusty (n=dusty@88-105-71-110.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:49] Zordrak: i also built gnome canvas too [15:49] you might need it for other stuff [15:49] that is such a sweet option to install with. to always be "up to date" [15:49] nullboy: you're always two steps ahead of me :) [15:49] hehe [15:50] Stutteringmatt: remember though that-current is usually working fine but there are times when it can be broken [15:50] although that doesn't happen too often [15:51] thats IT... ORBit2 is where all the gmodule gobject etc crap is [15:51] Zordrak: yay [15:52] harjar (n=oddharja@cFD945BC1.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [15:53] Action: Zordrak cherishes KDE4.... todays great reason... Desktop Grid as "top right mouse shorcut" with diff vnc sessions fullscreened in diff virtual desktops [15:53] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:54] s/right/left/ [15:55] then add Amarok + Free Bird by Lynyrd Skynyrd [15:55] I like KDE4 for the tabbed KRDC [15:56] yes [15:56] unfortunately realvnc enterprise viewer is massively better than krdc for vnc... so i stick with it [15:56] and also konsole's URL catching ability is cool [15:57] I do mostly rdesktop stuff [15:57] *shudder* [15:57] Action: straterra shrugs [15:57] I like it over vnc [15:57] it's too heavy for me [15:57] i like the lightweightness of vnc [15:59] phew. looks like i'm past the really bad area of that disk [15:59] Zordrak: I use desktop grid as "top right" and Show Windows as top-left, those 2 shortcuts alone <3 hehe [15:59] Action: alienBOB uses NX if possible - much better than VNC, but VNC can be used on low-spec servers [15:59] hopefully that was the only nasty spot...where disk i/o went down to 1bps [16:00] Zordrak: Actually, I got that backwards now that I think of it. Top left is grid, top right is show windows. :D [16:00] eviljames: nod [16:01] i dont use show windows... but if i decide to.. it'll be my top right [16:01] Also, alt-tab and meta-tab are mapped somehow to those same shortcuts [16:01] *all* windows that is [16:02] i frigging hate gnome and im glad it's gone from slack..... but i wouldnt hurt to have these libs in it [16:02] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.46.41) left irc: "Leaving" [16:02] for when you need the little bastards [16:03] C00re (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:04] eviljames: I'm still looking for how to specify the qt directory, but watching it compile, without specifying a directory, it looks like it's looking at /usr/lib/qt. [16:05] firebird619: Which may or may not be pointing at qt4 ? 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[16:10] check the configure script [16:10] its binary [16:10] thrice`: Yes. [16:10] thrice`: fyi: I already looked at a few different things wrt to qt3/qt4 issues. [16:10] Zordrak: you might try this then http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/network/heimdal/ [16:11] Zordrak: maybe you can get away with making some symlinks [16:12] hmmm maybe [16:12] i did see a libgssapi slackbuild for slack11 somewhere :/ [16:14] why the fuck does zattoo need fucking kerberos support... ARGH [16:15] i'm curious now so i'm building heimdal [16:15] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-72-125-ull.customer.panservice.it) joined ##slackware. [16:16] sQuEE (n=narya@host53.201-252-31.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [16:16] got a blog from someone who failed to get it to work on gentoo [16:16] i reckon this might be a lost cause [16:16] screw that [16:16] don't you want to be the guy who make it work on slackware? [16:16] he got video... behind an error screen with no sound [16:16] firebird619: I think looking through CMakeLists (iirc) will have information on what variable is for QT4 path [16:17] eviljames: I'm looking through that right now trying to find something. I seen about CMakeLists in the man page for cmake. [16:17] HeatHawk[AP] (n=kevin@nat-vlan10.algonquincollege.com) left irc: "This computer has gone to sleep" [16:18] nullboy: why dont you try zattoo from your side [16:19] i will [16:19] jnylin (n=chatzill@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [16:19] Lord_Khelben (n=null@79.103.242.156) joined ##slackware. [16:19] ooo [16:20] You have been added to the Zattoo waitlist. We will let you know when Zattoo becomes available in your area. [16:20] wtf [16:20] someone trying to do stuff on arch64 posted a little lib32 dep tree [16:20] which mentions heimdal [16:20] country? [16:20] US [16:20] ah [16:21] arg, those jerks don't serve Canada either? [16:21] lol [16:21] sQuEE (n=narya@host53.201-252-31.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [16:21] Lectus_ (n=chatzill@189.0.234.144) joined ##slackware. [16:21] i bet no one will peer with them [16:21] Last.fm and Hulu got scratched off my list of sites to ever visit again, now zattoo also? [16:21] it's uk+europe tv streaming [16:21] Lectus_ (n=chatzill@189.0.234.144) left irc: Client Quit [16:22] jnylin (n=chatzill@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: Client Quit [16:22] what's wrong with hulu? :( [16:23] thrice`: in CA it seems to be blocked [16:23] vdvluc (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "leaving" [16:23] really? that sucks [16:23] CA as in Canada though [16:23] eviljames: is that still the case? [16:23] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:24] ah, who cares about CA [16:24] canada ftw :) [16:24] i would be there if i could [16:24] i was just there [16:24] canada, Americas hat [16:24] nullboy: do you folks / family still live there? [16:24] the USA is Canada's mexico :D [16:24] thrice`: yep, Alberta [16:24] oh, neat [16:25] Pig_Pen, wrong -> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2387/2198259774_baed018f2b.jpg [16:25] its clearly a hat [16:25] nullboy: Yep. and Last.fm wants to charge 3 Euro a month to Canadians for the privilege of their horrible recommendations. [16:25] The USA is indeed Canada's Mexico. It's a third world country by comparison :D [16:25] looks like a hat to me [16:27] edman007: That pic is decent for some lulz, except it would be like wearing a hat that's 60,000 km^2 bigger than your body. [16:28] Zordrak: heimdal built libgssapi.so.2.0.0 [16:28] jnylin (n=chatzill@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [16:29] the mess the usa is in now is from predatory capitalism, the rich & powerful have been gaming the system for so long that it finally came back to bite em on the ass, now everybody is paying for it [16:29] Pig_Pen: Blame Reagan, move on. :D [16:29] Zordrak: you might need to make some links or update ldconfig but it's there usr/heimdal/lib/libgssapi.so.2.0.0* [16:29] just there now :) [16:30] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [16:30] just doing an interim updatedb [16:31] it happened before just after the industrial revolution (sweatshops) then the unions come along and even things out, but eventually the unions get powerful in their own right so they eventually corrupt like the big industrialists, and its just a powergrab until they financially strap the system beyond its limits and we get what we have now [16:31] What? [16:31] just a perspective [16:31] Pig_Pen: we're way off topic, but you have interesting thoughts on the matter [16:31] a good one :) [16:32] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [16:32] capitalism - morals = anarchic death & recession [16:32] ok, enough of that, back to ##slackware [16:32] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host103-236-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:32] Pig_Pen: heh, or #slackware-social [16:33] rworkman set that up before. [16:33] good [16:33] eviljames: In CMakeList I've found QT_BINARY_DIR and QT_TRANSLATIONS_DIR. I would set binary to /usr/lib/qt-4.4.3/ and translations to /usr/lib/qt-4.4.3/translations? [16:35] sally (i=sally@emil.morsing.cc) joined ##slackware. [16:39] firebird619: binary I think would be qt-4.4.3/bin and translations is correct afaik [16:39] eviljames: Ok, I will see if that does the trick. Thanks. 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[16:43] marctw: look at the scim* packages, and then read the section of http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.1/CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT that starts with "Input methods for complex characters" [16:43] Unfortunately this section was removed in the slackware-12.2 version of the C&H file [16:44] eviljames: I will. [16:44] eviljames: :( I'm getting this. CMake Error: The source directory "/tmp/SBo/lmms-0.4.3/build/ " does not exist. [16:45] firebird619: are you runnign as root? [16:45] Also, why would that be the source directory? [16:45] eviljames: Yes, I'm running ./lmms.Slackbuild as root. [16:46] nullboy: /usr/heimdal/lib added with ldconfig [16:46] eviljames: I don't know. It worked before all these times I've been trying to build lmms, why did that directory disappear now. [16:46] nullboy: symlinks made for libgssapi_krb5.so and .so.2 [16:47] still cant pirk it up :/ [16:47] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.211.217) joined ##slackware. [16:47] not sure what ive missed [16:47] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:47] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:47] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:48] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:48] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:48] Bart_S (n=Shan@83.119.172.124) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:48] eviljames: Looking in /tmp/SBo/lmms-0.4.3, that directory does exist. [16:48] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.2) left irc: [16:48] firebird619: I'd rm the SBo/lmms-* and SBo/package-lmms* anyway, just to ensure cleanliness. [16:48] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:48] eviljames: I tried that already. 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[17:00] 10 years or so [17:00] geez, epic [17:00] your a veteran then [17:00] There are people here who know way, way, way more than I do. [17:01] or arch, but the idea of bleeding-edge on servers scares me [17:02] mmlj4: Just put slackware on them, and forget the rest. They'll run until the hardware dies. [17:02] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.204.128) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [17:02] that's a major point [17:02] WOOOOOOOOOO!!!! NFWAYZOMG!!!!!!ELEVENTYONE!!!! [17:02] mmlj4: don't :P I'd suggest openBSD instead of arch [17:02] mannynix: why? [17:02] IT'S FUCKING WORKING!!!!!!! [17:02] bad experience with arch from time to time [17:03] from time to time [17:03] Zordrak: careful on the language, I've seen people get banned for less. [17:03] Zordrak: That aside, W00T!! [17:03] don't use it anymore :) [17:03] I had that on my desktop for almost 2 years, but it decided it really, really didn't like my nvidia card [17:04] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [17:04] Action: alienBOB likes your nvidia card - just send it over [17:04] mmlj4: This one for example: http://www.archlinux.org/news/369/ [17:04] I just truly cant besieve it [17:05] i never thought id get it to work [17:05] eviljames: I redownloaded the source and slackbuild and it's not giving that error now. I don't know what happened. Hopefully, specifying the qt4 directory will work. [17:05] ofcourse! the ftp site that I'm installing slackware from just went down! [17:05] firebird619: Sweet. good luck. [17:05] mannynix: yeah, some random breakage every 6 months [17:05] true [17:05] Whats thoroughly amazing is i can keep watghing in with desktop grid up [17:06] see my earlier complaint about bleeding-edge [17:06] exactly [17:06] eviljames: :) Thanks. I've recompiled this thing about 8 times. I hope this works. [17:06] i'll just install from cd and rsync like you told me eviljames [17:06] Action: Zordrak bows to nullboy for pointing him at heimdal [17:06] \o/ [17:06] eviljames: Watching the text scroll by, it's still using /usr/lib/qt [17:06] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:07] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:07] firebird619: What is in /usr/lib/qt? It sounds like the package is trying to static-link to something there (which obviously doesn't exist) [17:08] firebird619: is that where your qt3 is at, or is it for qt4? If there's nothing there, "ln -sv /usr/lib/qt-4.4.3 /usr/lib/qt" [17:08] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [17:08] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) joined ##slackware. [17:08] Stutteringmatt: That's what I do, and I have a cron job that rsyncs weekly. rsync won't transfer any data if nothing has changed. [17:08] Stutteringmatt: and it will only transfer incrementals for what has changed. [17:09] eviljames: There is a lot of stuff in there. Am I looking for anything in particular? [17:09] nullboy: and.. if you dont give it the flashplayer lib.. it cant give you adverts! \o/ [17:09] eviljames, does it rsync to any server you got or to your personal machine diretcly? [17:10] firebird619: grep "/usr/lib/qt" /var/log/packages/* [17:10] firebird619: See which package has put stuff there. [17:10] Stutteringmatt: My home server rsync's with an official mirror, the desktop/laptop rsync from the home server. [17:10] that's so cool [17:11] eviljames: looks like scim-bridge-0.4.14-i486-4. [17:11] and then you just run upgradepk *tgz? eviljames [17:11] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:11] upgradepkg* [17:12] Stutteringmatt: yup. upgradepkg --install-new slackware-current/slackware/**/*tgz [17:12] Stutteringmatt: It's not always a great idea to do that without inspecting what changes will be done first, though. [17:12] better use slackpkg [17:12] me, I'm daring enough not to care [17:12] ** is rather overkil :P [17:13] arcaos (n=chatzill@190.177.163.232) joined ##slackware. [17:13] eviljames, does your kernel update come with that rsync? like from 2.6.27 to 28 or 29? [17:13] Stutteringmatt: you know for upgrading to current .. we have a convenient UPGRADE.TXT [17:13] haha [17:13] jnylin (n=chatzill@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:13] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:13] bugger [17:13] BP{k}: sure, go pointing out offical documentation and all. [17:13] eviljames: of course :) [17:13] no sound when not running as root :( [17:14] Zordrak, and you're in group audio? [17:14] BP{k}, could you explain? [17:14] Stutteringmatt: yes, I could. [17:14] thank you [17:14] slava_dp: yes... i have sound.. just not in Zattoo [17:15] BP{k}: But you're obviously not going to :D [17:15] eviljames: I am sorely tempted. ;) [17:15] Stutteringmatt: if you look on the CD or in the slackware-current folder, there is a file named UPGRADE.TXT. It has lots of good info on upgrading your packages [17:15] slackware-current comes with documentation on how to upgrade; usually a textfile called "UPGRADE.TXT" and "CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT" [17:15] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [17:16] Stutteringmatt: anything you need to know is in there. end of story. [17:16] oh ok [17:16] eviljames: bah. my connection is lagged :| [17:16] would those upgrades include kernel updates? [17:16] BP{k}: Nah, I just type like a madman. [17:17] Stutteringmatt: They would, or at least could. [17:18] ok [17:18] oh [17:18] Stutteringmatt (n=tr0nd@h141n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:19] no sound as root either.... damnnit it was working before i restarted kde [17:19] Stutteringmatt (n=tr0nd@h141n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [17:20] wtf [17:20] Zordrak: Is something grabbing control of the audio device? (check with lsof) Is arts starting up? [17:21] Zordrak: or Phonon or whatever the sound server is called in kde4 if you're using that? [17:21] 6 procs using libasound [17:22] phonon? [17:22] (i am it kde4) [17:22] i have sound in kopete / amarok [17:23] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat074.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:23] How could you have sound in amarok/kopete but not kde? [17:24] Unless I've missed something? [17:24] eviljames: Heh. Now I'm getting CMake Error: The source directory "/tmp/SBo/lmms-0.4.3/build" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt. [17:24] i DO have sound in KDE... i dont have sound in Zattoo [17:24] Zordrak: ahh, gotcha. Is it looking for gstreamer / esound ? [17:24] sberla54 (n=sberla54@93-42-90-81.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "Gone" [17:25] firebird619: CMakeLists.txt is in /tmp/SBo/lmms-0.4.3/ not in build/ [17:25] sberla54 (n=sberla54@93-42-90-81.ip86.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [17:25] ldd shows it linking to libasound and libaudiofile [17:26] eviljames: I know, but that is the error I'm getting. It doesn't even look for that file right now. lmms is just not meant to be installed for me. :D [17:26] haha [17:26] firebird619: It certainly hates you. ;) [17:27] eviljames: That's for sure. [17:27] sberla54 (n=sberla54@93-42-90-81.ip86.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Client Quit [17:27] firebird619: What if you go into SBo/lmms-0.4.3 and try running the cmake command listed in the slackbuild ? [17:27] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) joined ##slackware. [17:27] or rather, SBo/lmms-0.4.3/build and cmake (options) .. ? [17:27] eviljames: I'll try that and let you know. [17:27] got it [17:28] something muted PCM [17:28] Zordrak: hahaha nice :D [17:29] sberla54 (n=sberla54@93-42-90-81.ip86.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [17:29] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [17:29] eviljames, could I borrow you for just one second? I'm gonna rsync with the KDE tree how would I go about doing that in a easy way? [17:29] what opens word doc's in slackware default ? [17:29] oh, debian de merde [17:29] krite partially opens it [17:29] kwrite [17:30] Stutteringmatt: kde4 has a number of dependencies that are in the l/ d/ and n/ package series. rsync the slackware/ folder for all the pacakges if it's possible with your connection. [17:30] DeeeeP, install OOo from rworkman's repo. [17:31] ok [17:31] yeah it's possible [17:31] eviljames, but how? [17:32] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:32] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:32] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:32] ahh [17:32] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:33] speaking of hulu...they put Supersize me up [17:33] nullboy: stfu! I don't want to know about hulu! :D [17:33] Action: eviljames is green with envy [17:33] that movies is hilarious [17:33] Stutteringmatt: sec, have to find an rsync mirror for slackware (I use slamd64) [17:33] i got one at ftp.sunet.se [17:34] Stutteringmatt: The command I would use is: [17:34] List of good rsync mirrors: http://alphageek.dyndns.org/linux/slackware-mirrors.shtml [17:34] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [17:35] thank you alienBOB [17:35] Stutteringmatt: rsync -azrPv rsync://ftp.sunet.se/Slackware/slackware-current /home/stutteringmatt [17:35] Stutteringmatt: or equivalent. [17:35] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) joined ##slackware. [17:35] can KDE4 only do 2 rows of desknops or is it just me? [17:36] Zordrak: I have 4 rows of desktops [17:36] no [17:36] wait, I only have 2 :D [17:36] *nod* [17:36] i want 3x3 [17:36] but it gives me 5+4 [17:36] It can be any number of rows x columns [17:36] Stutteringmatt: That rsync command will create a slackware-current folder in /home/whatever. If you added a / to the end of slackware-current it will dump the contents to /home/whatever [17:37] ok [17:37] alienBOB: how? i there a conf other than "KDE Control Module > Multiple Desktops"? [17:37] eviljames: I get CMake Error: The source directory "/tmp/SBo/lmms-0.4.3/build/ " does not exist. when doing that. [17:38] firebird619: .. um, wtf. How does build/ not exist, if you're IN build and running the command from there? [17:38] eviljames: I don't know. :) [17:39] horray it's working [17:39] kamaji_ (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:39] when that is done i just go into each folder and do upgradepkg *tgz? [17:40] Stutteringmatt: upgradepkg --dry-run *tgz first :D [17:40] slawx (n=slawx@unaffiliated/slawx) joined ##slackware. [17:40] why? [17:40] alienBOB: come on.. you cant say that and disappear :) [17:40] Stutteringmatt: So that it tells you what you're going to do before you do it [17:41] Stutteringmatt: also investigate the --install-new flag. if upgradepkg finds a package that does not have a previous version installed it will ignore it without that flag [17:41] do I have to go into each folder or could I do all the *tgz from all those folders? [17:41] bono (i=bono@114-45-224-90.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:41] ok [17:41] Zordrak: I have no slackware-current to try out on and tell you. But I right-clicked the pager iirc and selected advanced properties... not sure without actually looking [17:41] Stutteringmatt: Depending on which shell you're using you could go into the slackware/ folder, and upgradepkg --install-new **/*tgz, it would recursively go through all the package sets and install / upgrade everything. [17:42] Stutteringmatt: That's what I do, but I don't recommend it unless you're feeling brave enough not to care what conflicts might occur :D [17:42] what would you recommend then? [17:42] GOT IT... the word "Pager" was it! [17:42] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Connection timed out [17:42] Stutteringmatt: Well, just using the --dry-run option to check what you're going to be doing before it gets done, investigate which packages are in there in case there are ones you don't want, etc. [17:43] Stutteringmatt: Remember, with Slackware it's *your* system, not a system managed by a package manager. [17:43] yeah [17:43] alienBOB: You rule! (Naturally) [17:43] Zordrak: Earlier I mentioned to either you or Stutteringmatt to buy a beer for people who do the hard work on Slackware [17:43] alienBOB: if you're in the Vancouver area ever, ping me I'll buy you mass beer :D [17:44] hehe eviljames have you ever done any work for Slackware? [17:44] Action: alienBOB looks up Vancouver [17:44] Stutteringmatt: Nowhere near enough, I feel. [17:44] so what did you do? [17:44] I help out where I can, write a build script here or there, but I do absolutely NONE of the heavy lifting. [17:44] I'm not involved with or affiliated with slackware in any way, other than a simple user. [17:45] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [17:45] marctw (n=marctw@77.42.230.77) left ##slackware. [17:45] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [17:45] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:45] did you submit your scripts directly to slackware itself? [17:45] Nope. [17:45] Stutteringmatt: http://slackbuilds.org/ [17:45] ahh [17:47] I guess I'm not even really a user of Slackware anymore either, slamd64 now.. [17:48] Heretic [17:48] oooo get you ;) [17:48] alienBOB: [17:48] err [17:48] alienBOB: As soon as there's a native 64-bit slackware implementation I'm back on the wagon, I promise [17:48] Deal [17:48] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "fui embora" [17:49] Action: eviljames shakes hands with alienBOB [17:49] btw I don't wash my hands. [17:49] Action: alienBOB picks eviljames's pockets [17:49] eviljames, I got a 64bit laptop but I still run the 32bit slackware version [17:49] hmmmm now to try to trim the midth of the pager widget [17:49] width [17:49] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host103-236-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "byez" [17:53] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [17:54] http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/25/california.crash/ [17:54] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:55] 64bit is bad : with 32bit, your system always had too much RAM, but with 64bit it seems you should get a hundred times more ! [17:55] (that's really how I feel right now) [17:55] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 111 (Connection refused) [17:55] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:56] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host81-132-218-197.range81-132.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:57] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [17:57] nullboy: Wow, that is an expensive crash... [17:58] Fenix-Dark (n=scott@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [17:58] hey [17:58] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-58-107.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:59] i'm running slackware 12.2, for some reason when i run ut2004 it has no sound at all, but other games (like prey work with sound). any ideas? [17:59] using an audigy 2 zs sound card w/alsa [17:59] eviljames: i know exactly where they are talking about to. i camp out there [17:59] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.180.204.125) joined ##slackware. [18:00] nullboy: Go get me an expensive piece of wreckage. [18:00] anyone else know if you change the width of a kde4 panel widget [18:00] plz ship to eviljames c/o Canada [18:00] lol [18:00] Zordrak: The panel itself? Click the little testicle on the edge and you can set the borders [18:00] send it my way, so i can repair it and fly off this damn contitent [18:00] no.. panel widgets [18:01] continent* [18:01] lmao [18:01] HAHAHAH "click the little testicle" [18:01] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-58-107.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [18:01] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:01] nvision (n=nvision@g229123050.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [18:01] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat074.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:02] ie.. if you increase the size of the panel, the clock gets huge... when you have a 3x3 pager grid, it's way too wide for a reasonably sized panel [18:02] a reasonable sized panel is where electronics and alien chipsets are burning and begging for more power consumption in the phoenix galaxy innards. [18:03] and the bulding inspector shall not have a say [18:03] Fenix-Dark, iirc it could be a problem with alsa : try running 'aoss ut2004' [18:03] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.32.138) left irc: "Leaving" [18:04] whoa. dtanner just bukkake'd the channel with crazy. [18:04] Camarade_Tux, ok [18:04] Camarade_Tux, yup that worked [18:04] :) [18:04] Camarade_Tux, can you explain what exactly the error is? [18:05] Action: dtanner runs around the room crazily looking for the building inspector with a sharp axe [18:05] Fenix-Dark, no :D [18:05] ok [18:05] but most probably it was not developped with alsa in mind [18:05] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:05] at that time, oss was still dominant afaik [18:06] ok [18:06] (and it still sometimes work better...) [18:06] Camarade_Tux: For example, VBox (at least my experience) works way better with OSS emulation than directly through alsa [18:08] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:08] eviljames: It's not spitting that error at me now, maybe it will actually work. [18:08] evening :-) [18:08] macavity: Evening. How are you? [18:08] already too, this day flew buy for me macavity [18:09] firebird619: hello Mr DejaVu :P [18:09] :D [18:09] firebird619: yay! [18:09] firebird619: do you know what a VujaDe is? [18:09] eviljames: Ugh. It's still using /usr/lib/qt. I must be doing something wrong. :( I FAIL. [18:09] eviljames, when I started using linux/slackware about three years ago, alsa just didn't handle my sound, oss did [18:09] DejaVu? There is a glitch in the system. was it a black cat you saw? [18:09] =0 [18:10] dtanner: no, a VujaDe [18:10] great , those are dangerous too [18:10] yes [18:10] firebird619: Why would scim be putting stuff in /usr/lib/qt anyway? [18:10] eviljames: I have no idea. [18:10] the sensation that you are in a situation that does not even remotely resemble anything you have ever experienced before :P [18:11] snicker [18:11] ... i *hate* when it happens :P [18:11] macavity: tried KMS yet? [18:11] hey check it out http://www.nwesa.com/ [18:11] nvision (n=nvision@g229123050.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [18:11] thrice`: nope [18:11] thrice`: ive been on the lazy side lately wrt my graphics testing effort [18:11] :( [18:11] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.100.78) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:11] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [18:12] thrice`: try and look through the intel-gfx mailing list archive at freedesktop.org [18:12] eviljames: I see -D'QT_TRANSLATIONS_DIR="/usr/lib/qt/translations"' throughout the text as it scrolls by, even though I put that exact line in the slackbuild with cmake to point to the right stuff in /usr/lib/qt-4.4.3/translations. [18:14] firebird619: Alright. Rather than going at this blind, I'm going to actually download this and try :D [18:14] macavity: yep, they're cranking [18:14] DeepY0X (n=DeepY0X@190.41.159.243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:14] slawx (n=slawx@unaffiliated/slawx) left irc: "Leaving" [18:14] thrice`: exactly.. "release early, relase often" [18:14] eviljames: Ok, note that I am on -current. I don't know if that makes a difference wrt this issue or not. [18:14] Nick change: lns40 -> elzilcho [18:14] firebird619: it's all good, I'm on slamd64-current :D [18:15] eviljames: Ah, ok. [18:15] eviljames: Thanks for all the help. [18:15] firebird619: um, if you're on current, /usr/lib/qt *is* qt4 [18:15] yup [18:16] thrice`: I have /usr/lib/qt (put there by scim-bridge) and /usr/lib/qt-4.4.3, and 1 or 2 other directories. [18:16] if you installed qt4 on top of -current, that is what is broken [18:16] trust me.. if you try to compile KDE4 against qt3 you wont even make it past ./configure [18:16] thrice`: Maybe, unless he upgraded to -current w/o removing qt3 and /usr/lib/qt is a hybrid of both now? [18:16] oh.. kde is not autoconf based anymore.. [18:16] :D [18:16] >_< [18:16] firebird619: pastebin this: ls /var/log/packages/qt* [18:16] firebird619: looks like your install is hosed :P [18:16] thrice`: I did earlier, let me find the link. [18:17] Nick change: elzilcho -> lns40 [18:17] thrice`: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11304 [18:17] That's the link firebird619 posted [18:17] _AtheoS_ (n=_AtheoS_@92-234-149-22.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [18:17] ok, clearly you should not have qt4 from SBo installed with the qt in -current [18:17] oh dear [18:17] oh [18:17] Action: eviljames smacks forehead [18:17] d'oh! [18:18] Should I remove that then? [18:18] I would download the -current qt package, removepkg qt4, and upgradepkg --reinstall qt-rblahblah [18:18] eviljames: Why didn't you catch that??? :P [18:18] lol [18:18] firebird619: That's exactly what I was smacking myself on the forehead for! [18:18] :> [18:18] eviljames: :) [18:18] and you should *afaik* not have the Qt-rXXXXXX installed <- that is a snapshot of Qt, right? [18:18] thrice`: Ok, I'll do that. Thank you. [18:18] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:18] It's a good thing thrice` is around. I'm pretty sure I disclaimed that there are people here who know way, way more than I do :D [18:18] eviljames: i did the same thing initially [18:19] macavity, that's what is in current now [18:19] macavity: yes, but Pat has switched to qt-copy [18:19] thrice` slapped me too [18:19] ah [18:19] eviljames: Yes you did disclaim that, and now you proved it. :P [18:19] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [18:19] okies [18:19] nice move Pat! [18:19] sloiny (n=sloyn@84.19.44.65) joined ##slackware. [18:19] qt-copy has been in near-perfect condition for years [18:20] eh, I never did find out... why's it called qt-copy? [18:20] qt-copy is a svn snapshot of qt, with added patches from the KDE team [18:20] And with documentation removed [18:21] Nick change: NaCl -> SpanishInquisitr [18:21] hey, DHCP_KEEPRESOLV=[yes] in rc.inet1.conf doesn't work for me, is it usual ? [18:21] glad I never did actually try to learn qt programming from this book I have, I'd have gone nuts probably [18:21] DHCP_KEEPRESOLV=[yes] is not the correct syntax sloiny [18:22] sloiny: i hope that is DHCP_KEEPRESOLV[n]=yes for some meaningfull n [18:22] I know [18:22] Nick change: SpanishInquisitr -> NaCl [18:22] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: " " [18:22] I'm aware of that fact [18:22] the one thing that is reall bugging me about kde4 is learning where all the settings are [18:22] I tried wire and wireless [18:22] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [18:22] right now i cant find where to bind keys to switching desktops [18:22] for both resolv.conf is changed [18:22] everytime [18:23] odd [18:23] and I tried on twu different dhcp servers, so it must be internal [18:23] slawx (n=slawx@unaffiliated/slawx) joined ##slackware. [18:24] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:24] but to find the cause is really tough [18:24] got it [18:24] global / KWin [18:24] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] how do you guys feel about 4gb + high mem + slackware (as opposed to simply running a 64bit distro)? [18:25] antler: Provided that you enable PAE in the kernel, it should be fine. [18:25] thrice`: Ok, I did that now, removed the SBo package, reinstalled qt from current. Is there anything else I need to do, or can I try building lmms again now? [18:25] antler: but you can speed up your md5sum if you go to 64bit! [18:25] firebird619: build! [18:25] :D [18:25] eviljames: Ok, I will give it a shot and let you know. [18:25] eviljames: pae is enabled by default in the stock kernel i believe. yeah, so it's just the high mem [18:25] Thanks for the help everyone who has helped me. [18:26] what are you bulding firebird619 I havn't been paying attention [18:26] lmms [18:26] eviljames: i actually see more ram with pae, high mem, slackware, than, say, slamd64 :D [18:27] that makes no sense [18:27] straterra: i just did the install. free -m [18:27] there's about 70 mb difference [18:27] also..pae still has the process memory limitation [18:28] straterra: but at least all the memory is visible. [18:28] and wasted general purpose registers [18:28] in xfce where is the trash located on the filesystem? [18:28] the great error messages : Testing automake... [18:28] too old! (Need 1.4, have 1.10.1) :) [18:29] i somehow think all of the memory is visible in slamd64 too [18:29] everyone know 10 < 4 [18:29] pirving: probably in a .Trash or .xfce/Trash folder or something along those lines. [18:29] firebird619: did lmms build correctly for you finally ? [18:29] Camarade_Tux: poor comparison [18:30] i remember because slamd64 free -m reported less than 4, whereas slackware reported more than 4; that's really the only reason why i remember [18:30] straterra: right, but the point is that you can keep your existing slackware 12.2 installation, and see all the RAM [18:30] yes..but still run in to memory usage issues [18:30] pae is and always will be a dirty hack [18:30] straterra: I never said it wasen't [18:30] straterra: all the ram may be available, but it certainly wasn't visible when i installed slamd64 and ran free -m [18:31] root@lucille:/home/john# cd .xfce [18:31] -su: cd: .xfce: No such file or directory [18:31] root@lucille:/home/john# [18:31] flam3 runs faster on 64bit : http://flam3.com/index.cgi?&menu=galleries :D [18:31] you're right - there is no .xfce [18:31] ls .config [18:31] I wouldnt use pae over 64 bit because of 70 megs [18:31] xfce is in .config and .cache [18:32] thrice knows i say [18:32] =0 [18:32] straterra: yeah, definitely not; me neither. [18:32] Camarade_Tux: Is that your site? [18:32] how ya doin this evening thrice? [18:32] flyhorse|linux (n=flyhorse@116.18.178.94) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:32] not bad, yourself? :) [18:33] doin good =) thanks. [18:34] does anyone ever see this happen: if you have enough bookmarks so that you can scroll through them, you open up your bookmarks and it starts scrolling automatically and if you back scroll is keeps scrolling the other way. to make it stop you have to use the scrolling arrow to send it all the way down to the bottom. then you can scrolling manually again [18:34] Action: dtanner goes to play foobillard [18:35] straterra: i remember reading something about how processes have more memory available in a 64bit environment, whereas even with 4gb the same processes wouldn't have more than they normally have (rworkman). no idea what this means to a normal user doing normal computer stuff normally :P [18:35] nullboy: yes [18:35] dtanner: it's been like that for man releases too [18:35] really annoying [18:35] pisses me off sometimes [18:35] man/many [18:35] antler, it means a single process still can only access the same ammount of memory [18:35] *even with 4gb in a 32 bit + pae + hi mem environment [18:36] irregardless of how much is installed [18:36] nullboy: I started using delicious.com a couple of weeks ago. seems like a much easier way manage bookmarks [18:36] eviljames: so my bookmarks would be associated with my IP in some company's DB? [18:36] straterra: yeah, but in terms of noticeable difference? i'm thinking that i wouldn't be able to tell the difference [18:36] eviljames: i use google bookmarks , i opened a delicous account somtimes back and tried it but did not use it very long [18:36] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [18:36] nullboy: Stop bookmarking goatse, and things are all good. :D [18:37] eviljames, nah, not mine ! :p [18:37] Camarade_Tux: Too bad, because those fractals are beautiful. [18:37] Action: Camarade_Tux plans to reimplement flam3 using GPU instead of CPU [18:37] i could learn a lot about someone if i had their bookmark list [18:37] nullboy: You could learn a lot about what documentation I'm reading today :D [18:37] eviljames, just run flam3 and wait, you'll get some too ;) [18:37] Camarade_Tux: Believe me, I plan to [18:37] hehe :p [18:38] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] i want a new flatscreen monitor [18:38] http://www.eurolans.se/images/secured-vehicle-sandcat-002.jpg [18:38] damn, swedish cops got some cool cars [18:38] eviljames: right, which would tell me possible software and versions you are using. [18:38] it is very CPU expensive however, but it is nicely parralel [18:38] hey dtanner [18:38] plus it loooks like something for your GPU :) [18:38] ah, so tewmten sneaks in here :P how goes it dude ? [18:39] dtanner: oh just fine, im sipping some white russian and smoking that fine piece of hash i bought :D [18:39] swedish cop cars sucks, they should use FORD! [18:39] dtanner: how is it on your side of the world? [18:39] Stutteringmatt: thats not very swedish [18:39] Do they use Saab in Sweden? [18:39] Not anymore they don't! [18:39] :( [18:39] no they use volvo [18:39] Don't pick on us [18:40] hey, im not picking on my own people [18:40] well.. at least not tonight [18:40] :D [18:40] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@79.101.91.202) left irc: "Leaving" [18:40] don't know whether they still are, but cop cars in calgary were fitted with vette engines before [18:40] Where in our long land do you reside tewmten [18:40] hehe [18:40] antler: Those Impalas? Here in Van they are using new Interceptors [18:41] Stutteringmatt: i migrated to the netherlands a few years ago [18:41] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [18:41] Stutteringmatt: but im from uppsala orginally [18:41] oh [18:41] Stutteringmatt: you? [18:41] antler: and, as I live on a really main drag, when they step on the pedal for the interceptor, I hear it from down the road [18:41] spook_ (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [18:41] Any of you swedes from Umea? [18:41] eviljames: yeah, the impalas. they're on propane, which means they're only pushing out 70% power, but still, they're vette engines with high performance parts [18:41] Småland, Skillingaryd 4 miles south of Jönköping (swedish miles) [18:41] tewmten: except for a tornado watch all is goo dhere in Austin , especially suince "South By Southwest" is over the traffic is back to 90% congestion instead of 100% :P [18:42] :D [18:42] why did you migrae tewmten [18:42] eviljames: It WORKS. [18:42] migrate* [18:42] Stutteringmatt: i was unemployed and got a job offer in amsterdam, so i took it [18:42] antler: Many parts on the police refit vehicles cannot be purchased over the counter. They're restricted in some way. My old man used to have the service contract in Edmonton, had to courier the fuel injectors back before they'd ship a replacement. [18:42] firebird619: lmms ?!@!? [18:42] ah ;) as what? [18:42] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@32.164.19.184) joined ##slackware. [18:42] dtanner: Yeah, lmms finally works. [18:43] firebird619: Sweeeet.. [18:43] Thanks again everyone. [18:43] fr33d0m (n=abc@CPE0016b6e68f58-CM00122574b6f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [18:43] firebird619: Now, what did you learn? [18:43] ;) [18:43] Stutteringmatt: it was a crappy helldesk job, but im not working there any more. now im sysadmin at a software company [18:43] firebird619: a pain having two version of qt aye ? what that the root of the problem ? [18:43] is there a handbook to walk u through the install? [18:43] much more fun than helldesk =) [18:43] macavity_ (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:43] cool tewmten ;) [18:43] eviljames: they do sell them after a certain period, though [18:43] firebird619: i hope you took notes on that build [18:43] fr33d0m: Check the topic :D [18:43] firebird619: congrats [18:43] *do sell the whole car, that is [18:43] yeah =) [18:43] my (hopefully) future job [18:43] dtanner: I am on -current and had qt from SBo. So I had to remove that and reinstall current's qt. [18:43] you a student now? [18:43] antler: The cars are supposed to have most of those parts replaced with consumer grade afaik. [18:44] antler: the 'restricted' parts, that is. [18:44] tewmten, yes, second year gymnasium student [18:44] the HO parts they'll leave in. [18:44] eviljames: oh did not know that [18:44] Stutteringmatt: ah okay, well good luck then =) [18:44] just got a "praktikplats" at Deutsch Telekom for 3 weeks next semester!! [18:44] Action: tewmten sips some more white russian [18:44] firebird619: i see , thn i should not have a problem , i am giong to build slackware-studio on 12.2+patches [18:44] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) joined ##slackware. [18:44] antler: It's only a few little bits that are actually 'restricted' in that way, though. as I mention, most of the high-output stuff they'll leave in the car. [18:44] hard to type with this damn arm/wrist splint on [18:44] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [18:44] eviljames: I learned a simple solution can evade you all day and cause you to pull your hair out. [18:44] white russian makes me feel just like El Duderino [18:44] hehe tewmten [18:45] :D [18:45] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:45] until a brilliant 3rd party points out the obvious :> [18:45] hahahaha firebird619 ain't it the truth... [18:45] thrice`: :) [18:45] Action: eviljames nods at thrice` [18:45] spook (n=spook@202-89-167-144.static.dsl.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:45] eviljames: i wonder what's in those crown victorias; they look Mean. [18:45] ok, in my .config/xfce4 dir no trash bin [18:45] 302 V8 [18:45] dtanner: i should get this tshirt, http://www.myteespot.com/White-Russian-Big-Lebowski-T-shirt-p-11070.html [18:45] hehe brillant i say .. hats off to thrice` ( the third party man ) [18:45] let me check the link tewmten [18:45] can you use slack as a server/ [18:46] antler:I wish I knew more :D [18:46] nice tewmten =0 [18:46] dtanner: Yeah, you shouldn't have the problem. That pastebin I gave you earlier is the right deps, order, etc. I had just made the mistake of still having the SBo qt4 installed. [18:46] fr33d0m: not only yes ,but HELL YES you can [18:46] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [18:46] "hey careful, man, there's a beverage here!" [18:46] best quote evar [18:46] hehe [18:46] tewmten, what company do you work for? [18:46] hahahah lebowski [18:47] anyone installed deKorator in slack? [18:47] Stutteringmatt: www.q-go.com [18:47] think i installed it wrong then lol [18:47] antler: great movie :D [18:47] found it .loca/ [18:47] .local [18:47] .local/share/Trash/files/ [18:47] tewmten: one of the best around, man :D [18:47] agreed! :D [18:48] fr33d0m: if you are new to slack i would suyggest doing a "Full Install" then trim packages off later [18:48] i did it the other way [18:48] dtanner: Now that lmms is installed. It's really nice, has alot of plugins for different stuff, etc. [18:48] pirving: what wm Trash is that you found you have been searching for ? [18:48] about 10 - 20 times until i managed to install slackware 8.0 in expert mode in my sleep [18:48] when i started using linux [18:48] firebird619: we should make a slackware-studio ( would be a big project but would be really cool ) [18:49] haha tewmten :=) [18:49] dtanner: Yeah, that would be really cool. [18:49] slack supports scsi drives? [18:49] yes [18:49] fr33d0m: of course. [18:49] tewmten, what DE do you use? [18:49] dtanner: and as I learned from today with lmms, one heck of a learning experience. [18:49] hELL yEs scsi driver support [18:49] I just discovered OpenProj today [18:50] sorry i run a e-server from ibm and centos didnt have phpsysinfo [18:50] dtanner: pass me a bottle of whatever you're drinking :D [18:50] so im trying slackware :) [18:50] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [18:50] firebird619: we will not use -currrent , i would say use 12.2+patches instead so as not to have to update the version all the time [18:50] Stutteringmatt: i use gnome at my desktop at work, its ubuntu though.. all my private computers are osx or windows [18:50] dtanner: Yeah, that would be a good idea. [18:51] umm [18:51] what are you doing in here than :) tewmten [18:51] :=) [18:51] it went to linuxdoc-tools [18:51] dtanner: I should go back to 12.2 too so I can install lilypond too. [18:51] firebird619: follow the updates would be hell and could possibly break something quicker than staying with stable while installing so many many deps it would take [18:51] im a sucker for vmware these days.. laptop with windows and then a vmware machine on the laptop for my hacking needs :D [18:51] then all i see is killed root@slack [18:51] Stutteringmatt: oh.. old habbits [18:51] Nick change: rapid_ -> rapid [18:51] Stutteringmatt: i've been hanging around here for about 6 years or so [18:51] =) [18:51] tewmten, it's a nice channel :) [18:51] it is [18:51] and yeah i have systems with slackware also :) [18:51] someone *killed* his woot [18:51] and centos [18:52] and ubuntu and debian :(( [18:52] dtanner: Yeah, the last thing that would be needed is upgrades that break it and then your left diagnosing what happened. [18:52] any ideas? [18:52] yeah well.. Im not really in to the whole OS monogamy these days [18:52] firebird619: as you are finding out putting all those audio ( studio type ) aps on the deps are numerous. [18:53] dtanner: Yeah. [18:53] those apps have more deps than i have boxers [18:53] :D [18:53] firebird619: that is why i am running ubuntu-studio and taking a peek at all the apps to get an idea what i want to put on my slackware-studio [18:53] spook: i've given up all hope and i had such high ones. :-/ [18:53] tewmten: pass the hash my man .. you swedish people are so so lucky :P [18:54] dtanner: Yeah, some of the ones ubuntu studio has are maybe not really needed. [18:54] firebird619: agreed [18:54] alot may be ubuntu-specific deps [18:54] doeppjakab (n=doeppjak@82.77.126.236) left ##slackware ("bye"). [18:55] tewmten: no, he is compiling his audio/studio aps oin slackware-current , i was just commenting on ubuntu-studio [18:55] still many deps no matter what [18:55] aight [18:55] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:55] dtanner: I think what lmms might use is ALSA raw MIDI to get midi stuff going. [18:55] firebird619: i suspect you have timidity and ladspa and jack installed by now ? [18:55] dtanner: yup. [18:56] firebird619: ardour looks mighty fine [18:56] fr33d0m (n=abc@CPE0016b6e68f58-CM00122574b6f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left ##slackware. [18:56] dtanner: it sure does. I'm still trying to figure out midi for it, but it looks like an awesome app. [18:57] well.. imma go slack in the sofa [18:57] happy slacking [18:57] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.14.116) joined ##slackware. [18:57] im slacking as hard as i can! [18:57] oh hi nachox! hows it going? [18:57] dtanner: lmms has samples for different instruments and all to sort of make sample tracks, etc. [18:57] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.48.232) joined ##slackware. [18:57] sweet [18:58] hi tewmten :) doing good i guess, sleepu [18:58] *sleepy [18:58] Hi nachox. [18:58] nachox: ah yes, me too [18:58] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:58] firebird619: now add this to your setup =) made to connect to your pc to have multiple inputs/outputs. Digidesign does offer a lese expensive one too for your pc. [18:59] http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Digidesign-Digi-003-Factory?sku=240636 [18:59] well, i need to slack in the sofa in front of the warm glow of my tv [18:59] dtanner: Wow. Oh yeah, only a little over 2k. :D Heck that's pocket change. lol. [18:59] tot laaters [19:00] dtanner: I have to learn the instrument first, then someday have something like that. [19:00] 21GB out of 40GB read so far out of which, 8MB of unreadable blocks [19:00] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:01] dtanner: I had registered to one something like that through guitar center once, but I didn't win. [19:01] firebird619: well you are going in the right direction quickly getting all the audio aps you have been installing, now just find time to play and practice =) [19:01] s/one/win [19:01] i need to start playing more ( now i have this splint on my left arm/wrist for 7 days ) :( [19:01] damn broken bones [19:02] dtanner: Yeah, I hadn't tried playing for a while, but now I just have a renewed want to learn to play. [19:02] gnubien (n=e@40.242.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:02] i've busted many body parts [19:02] Hi nullboy. How are you? [19:03] good! [19:03] about to start a scar war [19:03] slawx (n=slawx@unaffiliated/slawx) left irc: "Leaving" [19:03] nachox: wassup dude? [19:03] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl8-9-233.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [19:04] dtanner: LMMS web site even has a "Your first song with LMMS" step-by-step tutorial. [19:04] dtanner, not much, working, living, reading the papers :P (and testing some kde packages in opensolaris) [19:05] firebird619: nice =) [19:05] i think this is the list: broke both wrists and 1 ankle, cracked my sternum, dislocated both elbows and shoulders, chipped one elbow, broken 4 fingers, shattered 4 bones in a foot, displaced a knee, broke the cartilage in an ear and cracked my skull once. [19:05] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.46.41) joined ##slackware. [19:05] Lord_Khelben (n=null@79.103.242.156) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [19:05] nachox: how do you like opensolaris? [19:05] nullboy: damn man [19:06] dtanner, very much, i havent used linux ever since i started using opensolaris except to work [19:06] nullboy: wow. you've had a lot of injuries. In my 23 years of life I've only had one broken pinky finger. [19:06] dtanner: drink your milk ;) [19:06] i chipped my riht elbow years ago and there is nothing they will do for litttle pieces of elbow bone unless it is on a nerve or something , i still have the little chip of bone floating around in my right elbow [19:07] nullboy: indeed, or at least take calcium supplements [19:07] yeah those little types on bone injuries end up being the nagging pains for the rest of your life [19:07] i do not like straight milk , i have it in cereal or chocolate [19:07] on/of [19:07] i just supplement now with a multi vitamin that has calcium [19:08] man this java is good stuff [19:08] Action: dtanner goes to get another cup [19:08] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] Nick change: macavity_ -> macavity [19:09] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-149-105.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:09] :-/ [19:09] http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/descendents_lyrics_2552/everything_sucks_lyrics_7150/coffee_mug_lyrics_83720.html [19:09] for the coffee lovers [19:09] i *hate* wireless [19:09] firebird619: still shows my three packages stil lin Dallas , they will probably load them on a truck for dallas departure tonight sometime [19:10] if they do that then i *may* get the stuff tommorow =) [19:10] firebird619: i need to put together my monitor stands tonight so i will be ready for the monitors =) [19:11] arcaos_ (n=chatzill@190.177.157.79) joined ##slackware. [19:12] dtanner: One thing I notice about tracking is they don't update often. Maybe your stuff has already left Dallase. [19:12] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.181.101) joined ##slackware. [19:12] s/Dallase/Dallas [19:12] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [19:13] dtanner: Yes, get those stands together in anticipation for the monitors. :) [19:13] dtanner: we want pics [19:13] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: "leaving" [19:14] ugh, ddrescue is barely past the 22GB mark and it has found 22 bad sectors [19:15] this is for a CFO of a medium sized business. [19:15] ok i already started a pic collection of the studio project -> http://picasaweb.google.com/slacktop/Studio?authkey=Gv1sRgCJz44b7dyPv5UA# [19:15] a power loss killed this external disk [19:15] nullboy: the pic of the guitars did not come out good , i will take another later that the color and finish of the guitars come through better [19:16] dtanner: ah so you're setting up an audio station? [19:16] Action: konus is now away: afk [19:16] Nick change: konus -> konus`away [19:16] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [19:16] konus`away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [19:16] haha!!! ^ [19:16] I love that ban. [19:17] I was testing it a while ago, to see if you set your name to "alanaway" or something, kick-ban immediately [19:17] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) left ##slackware. [19:17] i just walk away from the system, screw setting modes...you guys are smart enough to figure out that i'm not here if i don't answer [19:17] nullboy: yes , a full studio here in my living room , i am going to integrate a slackware-studio box into the setup too [19:17] dtanner: nice. i like hearing about people setting up FOSS A/V stations [19:17] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-139-50-214.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:18] i've played with kino and cinerella [19:18] i just need another flat screen monitor for that then i can start compiing audio apps [19:18] dtanner: You're awesome, sir. [19:18] cineralla is nice , i forgot about that one [19:18] cinelarra I think you guys mean. [19:18] yeah [19:18] i noes nuthin! 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[19:35] damnit , i can not make irssi end joins/parts/quits to another window , i have done what is says at the irssi site for this , but i am not doing something correctly after the aliases are setup [19:35] s/end/send/ [19:36] Action: dtanner sips coffee and picks out a cigar [19:37] sloiny (n=sloyn@84.19.44.65) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:37] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [19:39] sloin (n=sloyn@84.19.44.65) joined ##slackware. [19:39] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: Client Quit [19:39] dtanner: like this? http://www.casebliss.com/tmp/irssi.jpg [19:40] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:41] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.181.101) joined ##slackware. [19:41] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [19:42] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [19:43] gbonvehi (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [19:44] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [19:44] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Client Quit [19:45] mordy_ (n=mordy@pool-141-157-199-55.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] there is any official package with X11 header files [19:46] ? [19:46] NaCl (n=NaCl@d-199-230-241.bootp.Virginia.EDU) joined ##slackware. [19:46] The headers come with the source package. [19:46] s/source// [19:46] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Client Quit [19:47] strange [19:47] checking for X... no [19:47] We don't split out -dev and -headers packages, except for the kernel. [19:47] when compiling fvwm [19:48] jiffypop (n=jiffypop@32.164.19.184) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:48] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [19:49] does gmail isp working on esmtp ? [19:49] hey, would this little add-on work with the rc.inet1 script? http://pastebin.com/f31935341 [19:49] i'm basically looking to configure the IP address based on the MAC address [19:50] mac-: you must use debian... [19:50] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-72-125-ull.customer.panservice.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:51] i added a MAC_ADDR[ ] field in rc.inet1.conf and also added the line to run it after if_up on start [19:51] is that the same mac I know? [19:52] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.46.41) left irc: "Leaving" [19:52] mac-: if you can't find X, it might be that you're trying to compile using su instead of using su - (which makes it an actual log-in shell, with proper paths) [19:52] this was a bug in the older su binaries, i think [19:52] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:53] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) joined ##slackware. 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[20:01] chopp: on second thought , that is a cool setup right there. =) [20:04] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.52.211.217) left irc: "leaving" [20:04] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:05] Is there a way to put my monitors to sleep from the command line? I'm on a desktop, not a laptop, with nvidia graphics cards. [20:06] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-97.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:09] mooglenorph: why don't you configure xscreensaver? [20:10] MeVsTheVoices (n=jdizzle@adsl-76-200-149-156.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] mooglenorph: on X_ [20:11] Hey guys, is it possible for me to install slackware while running another OS? That is, format the drive, chroot to it, setup the packages ect...? [20:11] mooglenorph: assuming you're on X, you can run: xset dpms force off [20:12] MeVsTheVoices: if by other OS you mean a some gnu/linux distro then you should be able to [20:13] gbonvehi: Ohh yea sorry, other gnu, sweet, thanks [20:13] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) joined ##slackware. [20:13] MeVsTheVoices: possible is not entirely the same as "easy to do" :P [20:14] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:14] Yes, I'm on X. And, if I jiggle the mouse or something after that, the monitors will wake back up? [20:14] mooglenorph: yeap [20:14] fantastic :-) [20:15] MeVsTheVoices: just a hint, slackware's setup is inside an image file, you can mount it using loopback [20:15] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:15] Likevinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:16] gbonvehi: Was planning :-) been having troubles with CD as of late :-( [20:16] MeVsTheVoices: use a pendrive then :) [20:16] gbonvehi: Too warm and comfy with ma gui and tunes >.< [20:17] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] gbonvehi: Is there some way for me to get installpkg by the way? On Ubuntu. [20:17] which text to speech software can I use with slackware [20:18] dissocia1ive: http://perlbox.sourceforge.net/ ma favorite, tk based though [20:19] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:20] MeVsTheVoices: i told you, the setup is inside an image file, take a look at linuxquestions.org for more info, this won't be just an easy task [20:20] gbonvehi: k, ty [20:20] you're welcome, time to make dinner [20:22] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:30] i *hate* trafic shaping... there ought to be a law against it [20:30] anybody have vlc 0.9.8a working with .mp4 video files? [20:31] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:31] fluxnuk3r: if you compile it against ffmpeg-0.5 it *should* work [20:31] fluxnuk3r mine is working [20:31] odd [20:32] i had 0.8.6i installed, installed mp4 libraries, ffmpeg, didnt work. upgraded, still doesnt [20:32] im using tgz's though [20:32] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] tried from alien ? [20:33] thats where I got the ffmpeg and vlc packages [20:36] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [20:36] video playback is flawless. just no audio at all [20:36] hba (n=hba@189.188.148.100) joined ##slackware. [20:36] Prefect (n=Prefect@CPE00179a9eeb9f-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:37] ah [20:38] can you check what audio codec is used? [20:38] on vlc? [20:38] it doesnt put out any errors at al [20:38] *all [20:38] i dunno... i just right click them in konqueror [20:38] not sure where to find what codec its using currently [20:39] fluxnuk3r, tools/codec information [20:39] on it menu bar [20:40] flyhorse|linux (n=flyhorse@116.18.189.182) joined ##slackware. [20:40] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Client Quit [20:40] mp4a [20:41] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [20:43] so apparently that codec isnt working correctly, or is it the wrong one? [20:43] no, that seems to be in order [20:43] as in, it is a "real" mp4 file [20:44] not, say an avi, that uses mp4 for video and $WHATEVER for audio [20:44] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [20:45] so any idea what the problem is then? [20:46] none what so ever.. i use xine myself, and it works all the time (for my needs, which includes mp4) [20:46] observe that xine happens to be universially hated by most regulars in here, except from me [20:46] Action: john_dee thinks xine is sooo ugly %) [20:46] (i am the bend kind of person who likes info pages too....) [20:47] i dont even look at it [20:47] xine might be ugly, but its working [20:47] thanks macavity [20:47] well, that way it might work $) [20:47] just hit "g" once, and it is gone for ever [20:47] and it can't handle subs properly [20:48] oh.. i dont use subs [20:48] i just get annoyed that the translater is equally idiotic at both danish and english :P [20:48] the player itself is okay, but when you go to the preferences..omg o_O [20:49] gbonvehi: Got it :-D [20:49] where did they dig out this design, WW2 archives [20:49] i think it looks cool.. [20:50] old-scoll, i'd say [20:51] old-scool [20:51] john_dee: it has a gui for preffs?!? [20:51] ****KUCH Dropline Gnome 2.26 Alpha installer for Slackware 12.2 SPAM**** [20:51] john_dee: lulz.. i just edited the conf file [20:51] http://saxa.droplinegnome.org/i686/2.26/dropline-installer-2.26.0a-i686-1dl.tgz [20:51] ****KUCH Dropline Gnome 2.26 Alpha installer for Slackware 12.2 SPAM**** [20:51] :D [20:51] macavity, well, then you can have some good time seeing it for the first time $) [20:52] Tyrael_: now you support every single user who get their machine hosed... [20:52] :P [20:52] john_dee: no need.. i generally like text editors better than tabs :P [20:54] oh damn... 15 bt downloads can *really* kill a cheep cable modem [20:54] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:55] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:00] Heh [21:02] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) joined ##slackware. [21:02] macavity, me too. but that's media player, GUI and all. no mplayer in framebuffer for me please %) [21:04] john_dee: i use KDE all the time.. specifically yakuake is the shithe :P [21:05] macavity, what's that? quake console? [21:05] quake-like [21:05] yup.. i just press a button, and a KDE konsole slides down over the screen [21:06] smooth %) [21:06] it gives me the best of both worlds in a highly integrated fashion [21:07] Action: john_dee thinks he'll give it a try then [21:08] fortunately the danish keyboard has a useless button just left of 1 [21:09] thats the paragraph and 1/2 button (who thought of *that*) [21:09] theblackerbox (n=sammo@78-105-244-219.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [21:09] dtanner: I got the keyboard working in lmms. [21:14] blast3r (n=blasteR@43.Red-83-43-140.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] lmms == xmms fork? [21:14] _arc_ (n=arc@85.17.65.14) left irc: Client Quit [21:14] macavity, fruity loops gpl [21:14] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:14] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-13.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:14] aka FLStudio [21:14] macavity: No, lmms = Linux Multimedia Studio. [21:15] macavity: It's to create music. lmms.sourceforge.net [21:15] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] firebird619, how does it work? stable? [21:15] john_dee: I just got it installed today. So far it's really nice and stable. [21:17] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [21:17] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:18] hba (n=hba@189.188.148.100) left irc: "leaving" [21:26] xdan779 (n=daniel@64-233-207-75.static.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [21:27] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [21:27] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [21:28] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) left ##slackware. [21:28] brixton (i=brixton@ircnoob.com) joined ##slackware. [21:28] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-71-245.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:28] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:29] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [21:29] good news everyone! gsb and gware for 12.2 are in the works...almost [21:29] :D [21:31] MeVsTheVoices (n=jdizzle@adsl-76-200-149-156.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:32] john_dee: what makes you think so? Nothing on either website to indicate that. [21:32] Action: nooper rides into the channel on his scooty puff jr. [21:33] Calidore (i=Calidore@222-176.evj-kabel.net) joined ##slackware. [21:33] danc3, mailing lists and 12.2-testing dirs on download servers [21:33] ahh, ok [21:33] you'd think they'd put a teaser post on the websites (that haven't been updated in 6 months). [21:34] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [21:38] anyway, I hope you're right. I'd like to have another go with GSB [21:38] okibisan (i=1000@24-158-197-146.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:39] that's not the thing to expect i'm afraid, since they don't write to mailing list too often either [21:39] i just hope they roll it out anytime soon [21:40] kde makes me..nervous %) [21:40] why does kde make you nervous? [21:40] and lightweight box environments are too..lightweight ^) [21:40] okibisan, it looks too much like windows [21:41] agreed [21:41] and lots of programs here i can't get rid of [21:41] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:41] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) left irc: "Leaving" [21:42] like juk or noatun media players [21:42] and lots of other stuff which seem to be part of it [21:43] kde always has been bundled, kdegames, kdegraphics, kdenetwork, kdemultimedia & etc... [21:43] Hi Pig_Pen. How are you? [21:43] i think i am going to miss kde-3.x when it is no longer practical [21:43] good' [21:43] Gnome is worse about that. [21:44] Everything is intertwined. [21:44] Pig_Pen, that's what i don't like about it. why would i want 4 text editors? i'm comfortable with 2 max [21:44] i agree, i tend to favor one cli editor and one gui editor [21:45] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-71-245.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:45] jkwood, the worst thing about gnome is it's dumb architecture. kde seems to win here with it's packaging [21:46] I prefer the simplicity of Gnome, not so many freakin options to set/change [21:46] i like gnome/xfce [21:47] xfce 4.6 is nice! [21:47] yeah, I'm a big fan of xfce [21:47] been using it since Slack dropped Gnome [21:47] if i had to choose between gnome & xfce i would prefer xfce [21:47] me too, but it's a close call [21:47] As of KDE 4.2, noatun no longer exists. [21:48] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:48] jkwood, that's a relief %) [21:48] They've done a lot to prune. It's pretty well one app per. [21:48] kamaji_ (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep" [21:49] kde should just concentrate on the volume control & alsa, one clean barebones video player frontend that will accept either mplayer or xine as a backend [21:49] kmplayer is decent [21:49] smplayer is really nice. [21:49] i go back and forth between xfce and gnome [21:50] i like both [21:50] i like to try the latest [21:51] theoffset (n=ismael@132.254.52.243) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:51] does anybody use fvwm2? [21:52] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [21:52] Anyone know anything about apparmor? [21:52] Or use it? [21:52] never heard of it [21:53] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-97.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [21:53] yeah its something on Novell-based stuff like SLES or openSUSE [21:53] hba (n=hba@189.188.148.100) joined ##slackware. [21:53] Pig_Pen, minimalistic, reminds of CDE, left behind in 20th century :D [21:55] first two are advantages, of course [21:56] okibisan (i=1000@24-158-197-146.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:57] Dominian: Yea, just reading about it. A friend was asking about it and if it or something like it was available for Slackware. Not sure what to tell him. [21:57] apparmor is unmaintained and its lead developer went to work for microsoft after he left novell [21:57] It's supposed to make your servers more secure. [21:57] tphilosopher_ (n=tphiloso@89-168-210-241.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [21:57] usr13 : think selinux, just more managable [21:58] usr13: what ananke said [21:58] psychicist: Really... do you have a source for info I can send him? [21:58] usr13 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparmor [21:59] selinux, is that a kernel module? [21:59] from RH? [22:00] why don't you try doing a bit of your own research first? [22:00] the wikipedia is what I found, but I remember reading a novell press release in which they said they'd keep supportin apparmor for current sles releases but would migrate to the selinux framework [22:02] Lqtm. Does anyone have any "bedroom conquests" related to Slackware? [22:02] ananke, and path based :) [22:02] which is a shame, but ohh well. at least we're getting uniform system across most distros [22:02] acidfreeze (n=acid@cpe-72-190-70-35.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:02] SElinux got better these last releases, there are lots of new selinux aware services in rh [22:03] i have a dell keyboard sk8135 is there anyway of making the volume knob work in gnome? [22:03] opensuse 11.1 introduced selinux [22:03] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:03] makes sense since the only one using apparmor is suse and it's a bitch to mantains outside the kernel [22:03] ubuntu had packages at one point i think [22:04] Ubuntu uses apparmor [22:04] on a completely unrelated note, today i was going through one of our closets, and i found a kodak dcs-420 camera kit in a box. digital slr from mid 90's: http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/Kodak/index1.htm [22:05] nm [22:05] Ubuntu's had AppArmor since 7.04 iirc. [22:05] acidfreeze, use xev, does it generate keycode events or acpi ones? [22:05] nachox: man opensolaris is so nice :) [22:05] xbindkeys [22:05] it is [22:05] what, it comes with bash? :) [22:06] yes, and ksh93 [22:06] wow [22:06] ananke, but solaris 10 had bash already, you couldnt use it for proper profiled roles though [22:10] acidfreeze, so? [22:11] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [22:12] I can confirm what nullboy stated earlier.. latest k3b svn for kde4.. works a charm [22:12] hba (n=hba@189.188.148.100) left irc: "leaving" [22:12] im saying im trying that [22:13] thanks for xev comment, i will try that next. im used xev in the past to capture [22:13] you have to run xev, place your mouse pointer in the xev windows and use the volume scroll [22:13] if it's a keyboard, i could guarantee it generates keycodes [22:14] Apparently Mandriva are helping out in the K3b department. [22:14] but with xev you'll know which and be able to map them [22:14] Dominian: awesome [22:14] I had the oddest USB "keyboard"... the volume up/down buttons on a USB sound interface showed up as a keyboard [22:14] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@c-68-52-184-217.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:14] nullboy: and that's on Slamd64 :D [22:14] haha [22:15] had to install libsamplerate [22:15] apparently.. that must be a new required [22:15] In the kernel build there's an option that says 'Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers' What does that refer to? [22:15] (I can't find info on that particular option) [22:16] Cryp71c: it means "you you want to see all options in menuconfig or do you want to only see the options that are deemed to be fully stable [22:16] " [22:16] Cryp71c: it means just what it says... there will be kernel options that show up as "experimental" if that option is enabled. If it's disabled, you won't see those options and they'll always be off [22:16] (eh, or do they keep their old values, if they were on or modular before? I disremember) [22:17] Urchlay: so do all options which are hidden by unchecking that selection become auto-disabled (so they aren't installed) [22:18] that's the part I can't remember [22:18] if you turn of that option you will certainly break it [22:18] been ages since I disabled it last... [22:18] off* [22:18] tphilosopher_ (n=tphiloso@89-168-210-241.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:18] nullboy: break what? [22:19] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [22:19] a lot of things that you expect to work [22:19] that much I do remember, plenty of those "experimental/unstable" drivers actually work fine [22:19] unless you know what it does, leave it how it is set in the stock kernel [22:19] either that or play with the options and learn. [22:19] ...or unless you're willing to break things in order to learn how they work [22:21] Urchlay: what's the worse that will happen? some devices won't work? [22:21] If I use a precompiled slackbuild from slacky.it that's meant for KDE 3.5 will it work under KDE 4.2.1? I can't use the build from slackbuilds.org since kde-config is missing, looks for it during configure process. [22:21] Cryp71c, kernel panics [22:21] you will create a kernel that is missing a driver that you might have needed [22:21] yeah... of course your disk controllers, disks, etc. are devices. You might end up with an unbootable kernel [22:21] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Say good night to the bad guy." [22:22] not a problem if your lilo.conf is set up to let you choose the stock kernel [22:22] chance22: kde4-config..... [22:22] chance22: which is a hint... [22:22] nullboy: Thanks, I was looking around for that. I'll give it a shot. [22:22] if the program you are trying to build does nto support kde4-config it probably hasn't been updated yet.... [22:23] Which program? [22:23] It's a package for guarddog, Slackware 12.2. I'm using KDE 4.2.1 from -current. [22:23] ThunderWolf (n=chmod777@bl7-221-195.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: [22:23] Package? Yeah, that won't work. [22:24] Calidore (i=Calidore@222-176.evj-kabel.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:24] Even if I change it to look for kde4-config instead of kde-config? [22:24] try it [22:24] you can try it.. [22:24] it's not like trying things will create some blackhole... [22:24] acidfreeze (n=acid@cpe-72-190-70-35.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:24] I'm on my 12.1 box right now and I just did slackpkg search for selinux and it says: [ installed ] - kernel-headers-2.6.24.5_smp-x86-2 & [ installed ] - kernel-source-2.6.24.5_smp-noarch-2 [22:25] According to the website, it hasn't been ported to qt4 yet. [22:25] What does 12.2 say? [22:25] usr13: We definitely don't have selinux. [22:25] usr13: Selinux is not included with slackware in any way shape or form [22:25] nullboy: at least not until quantum computers become cheap enough for n00bs to have them :) [22:25] SELinux is a patch to the kernel + user land tools [22:25] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) left irc: "Leaving" [22:25] Dominian: I didn't think so... but what is that ^^^ ? [22:25] usr13: it is saying that because there are files in those packages that refer to selinux [22:25] You have to patch your running kernel to use SELinux [22:26] Those packages will have selinux.h, which is probably what slackpkg is finding. [22:26] jkwood: Thanks. I tried alienBOB's firewall generator, but nothing was getting through with DHCP support rolled in. I guess I should learn to tweak it myself.. [22:26] god. [22:26] srsly guys. u guys. srsly. [22:26] Implementing SELinux in slackware *can* be done... [22:26] i've done it [22:26] however, Its not for the weak hearted [22:26] things WILL break while you're doing it :) [22:27] chance22: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3636 [22:27] i've done pam + selinux which effectively makes maintaining the system incredibly tedious [22:27] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [22:27] heh [22:27] well, I wonder just how much security one would get out of selinux in the first place... [22:27] which is why on ever CentOS install I have ever done.. I disable SELinux [22:27] usr13: read up about the project [22:27] Eh.. it does some interesting things.. [22:27] profiles for security of processes... etc etc [22:28] You can even tweak it to only allow users to run only certain commands etc. [22:28] jkwood: Thanks, checking it out now. [22:28] hi, how can i check which packages have been installed by date? [22:29] blkdg: ls /var/log/packages/ -alh [22:31] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:32] Dominian: That's what groups are for. [22:32] jkwood: er.. even more so than just groups.. [22:32] thanks nullboy ! [22:32] YOu can configure SELinux so that if a user runs ps aux [22:32] they only see processes they own.. and that's it [22:32] You can even hide the who list from them if you wish [22:33] Ah, okay. [22:33] but like ananke said.. apparmor is much nicer [22:33] which is Novell's answer to SELinux basically [22:34] didnt Novell make SELinux with NSA :) [22:34] dunno [22:34] it was the other way round [22:34] when you build the compiz packages from slackbuilds, does it make a fusion-icon entry in kde 3.5 ? i can't see one [22:35] the nsa ported flask to linux and called it selinux [22:35] nachox: what just NSA made it? thought some company helped them as well [22:35] that sounds really safe [22:35] nullboy: Send an email to Sebastian Trueg about k3b working? [22:35] kitche, redhat [22:35] jkwood: nope [22:35] i'm not leet enough [22:36] nachox: ah yes red hat [22:36] Preez? [22:36] kitche, selinux was also ported to freebsd (trusted bsd) and osx, [22:37] man I mso not use to gnome being all shiny and such [22:37] kitche, and it is being ported to opensolaris in the form of the fmac project [22:39] man opensolaris does not have mplayer most likely due to license concerns [22:39] kitche, compile it [22:39] I am [22:39] I liek it better then totem :) [22:40] thanks again [22:40] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [22:40] totem integrates with gstreamer if you dont mind buying stuff from fluendo [22:46] nachox: doh forgot that solaris uses sunstudio instead of gcc by default :) lucky for me I did a search really to see what I all needed [22:46] kitche, it uses gcc by default [22:47] nachox: hmm reallyy well I had to install gcc among some otehr stuff [22:47] lostnhell (n=Unknown@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] kitche, oh, opensolaris doesnt have a compiler by default iirc, space constraints [22:48] opensolaris is still on gcc3 iirc [22:49] gcc version 3.4.3 (csl-sol210-3_4-20050802) [22:49] they'll get there some day :) [22:49] I dont care about the version of gcc really sicne I dont like gcc all that much really [22:51] thrice`, i think there is some gcc4 version going through ARC review right now [22:52] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:53] I'd love to get hold of the updated version of the MIPSPro compiler that lives at SiCortex nowadays [22:55] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:55] psychicist, gcc is the only multiplatform crap atm unfortunately [22:55] I'm also wondering if there could ever be a Sun Studio release for Linux SPARC, but it's gcc for now [22:56] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:57] who the hell uses linux on sparc? there is NO business opportunity there [22:57] I'm sure some people enjoy both linux and sparc enough to mate them. [22:57] lostnhell (n=Unknown@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:57] nachox: I remember the code was donated by SGI and everyone took the code and made his own architecture-dependent compiler instead of building a framework that could replace gcc [22:58] what code? [22:58] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:58] nachox: I know, but then I wonder why there is even a full-time kernel developer for that architecture [22:58] Guest59268 (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:58] nachox: the SGI MIPSPro compiler [22:59] it's just ONE developer, windriver sells a sparc linux for the T2k for the telcos [22:59] shem12345 (n=root@cle-bb-cable2-ws-175.dsl.airstreamcomm.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] anyone here help me upgrade intltool? [23:01] shem12345 (n=root@cle-bb-cable2-ws-175.dsl.airstreamcomm.net) left ##slackware. [23:01] there was an initiative a few years ago for getting other OSes on Niagara (primarily Ubuntu), but it seems to have died down again [23:03] What types of hardware makes use of the 'high resolution timer' which is disable-able in kernel compile? [23:03] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:03] Is it all hardware, or only certain types? [23:03] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@190.71.48.232) left irc: "leaving" [23:03] i see we are in #kernel now [23:03] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.204.125) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:04] nullboy: I see we're back to the negative points of irc now. [23:04] Cryp71c (n=Cryp71c@c-68-52-184-217.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [23:04] http://kerneltrap.org/node/6750 [23:04] haha [23:05] if you just put the name of the config option into a google query you wouldn't need to wait for an IRC channel to do it for you [23:06] he left.... [23:06] i'm aware of that [23:06] in solaris at least hi res timers are used for extended accounting [23:07] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:08] nachox: hmm having troubles compiling mplayer for some reason even though I have hea installed [23:09] kitche, uff, it had more dependencies, i had to work to compile it here... [23:10] i think i used gas as the assembler too [23:10] think I:l try the 3rd party repos instead at least for now [23:11] wont hurt since I have a snapshot for backup [23:11] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) left irc: Client Quit [23:12] kitche, create a new BE before trying that [23:12] nachox: already have [23:12] beadm create opensolaris-new [23:12] sicne entire needed updating the update tool already did [23:13] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [23:15] kitche, be happy, create a new one, they are mostly free :P [23:16] nachox: I need to read up on BE anyways dont understand them [23:17] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:18] kitche, what is there to understand? it clones (read write copies which take no extra space at first)all your original zfs filesystems except the /export/home one and adds a new grub entry of which you can boot :) [23:18] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] nachox: well I did not really look into BE actually but I have a vmware snapshot that I ccan use if something happens anyways [23:19] oh, coward... [23:19] should really get to bed lol [23:22] nachox: wow they compiled mplayer with everything in the blastwave repo didnt they [23:23] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:23] i think so, yes [23:23] anyways time for bed [23:23] it[ almost 11:30hereh [23:29] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:30] nite all [23:30] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.14.116) left irc: "Leaving" [23:36] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-74-164.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:40] anyone alive in here? [23:40] nope move along [23:41] lol [23:41] okay [23:42] theoffset (n=ismael@201-167-98-234-cable.cybercable.net.mx) joined ##slackware. [23:43] night folks [23:43] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: "leaving" [23:44] luisme (n=lss@host180.190-137-73.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [23:44] luisme (n=lss@host180.190-137-73.telecom.net.ar) left ##slackware. [23:45] ok, simple question, I have a virus file I want to replicate throughout the domain on all the ftp servers, how do I write a script, in any language thats easy to do this [23:45] virus definition file [23:45] ftp -s [23:45] ? [23:46] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [23:46] chance22 (n=chance@99-16-138-143.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:47] pirving, well a virus should be self replicating.... [23:47] ha ha, no really a definition file [23:48] but if you must, i suggest rsync, if you require ftp use lftp [23:49] if i type "dd if=usbboot.img of=/dev/sdb" will that automatically install the USB boot image to my flash drive assuming i have the image on my computer and am in the right directory? [23:49] or is there something else i need to do? [23:49] set the block size [23:49] bs=512 [23:49] read the readme in the same directory too [23:50] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-139-50-214.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:50] is the block size supposed to be the size of the drive? because im using a 64MB drive. [23:50] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-139-50-214.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:50] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT [23:50] ... [23:50] read the readme [23:51] and i am reading the readme, it doesnt say anything about setting the block size. it just says the command i typed. it seemed incomplete, so thats why i asked [23:51] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-139-50-214.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:51] you didn't type what was in the readme though. the block size is not the same thing as the device capacity. if you don't set the block size some systems won't boot the stick. [23:51] set it to 512 just like the readme shows [23:52] yea, that wasnt the same readme i was reading... [23:52] thanks for that [23:53] :) [23:55] ok, so using rsync, how do I login to the host machine? [23:55] or do I ssh and run the command there? [23:55] man rsync [23:55] I'm reading the man right now [23:55] it has examples [23:55] I'm looking for a answer, thats why I type it in the channel [23:55] pirving: rsync is a bi directional tool... [23:56] I'm just wondering about authentication [23:56] you can push or pull and it can use ssh for auth [23:56] username@host [23:56] looks at -e [23:56] look* [23:56] so, say I want to transfer a jpeg to your machine [23:57] STOP TRADING PRON [23:57] dont mind me i just woke up from a nightmare [23:57] what would be an example command, let me try and find it in the man [23:57] jkwood: =) [23:57] An example that copies all the files in a remote module named "src": [23:57] rsync -av host::src /dest [23:57] wooooooooooow, there are a TON of switches [23:58] lol @ jkwood [23:58] rsync -av nullboy::john.jpg /home/nullboy ??? [23:58] blast3r (n=blasteR@43.Red-83-43-140.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:59] rsync -viahl -e ssh --progress --delete / root@remotesystem:/RSYNC_BKP_ZONE/ [23:59] pirving: honestly for one file, you be better of using scp. [23:59] can I use an IP rsync -av 192.168.1.1::j/home/john [23:59] hmmm [00:00] --- Thu Mar 26 2009