[00:00] damn, is it really over there <------------- ? [00:00] Yes! [00:00] all righty then [00:00] gots it [00:00] but big snakes like that, you never know where they might slither to [00:00] alimon: so what's your question? [00:00] my question is about why you prefer Slackware? [00:01] alimon: 42! [00:01] that's a good question [00:01] alimon: simplicity. Speed. [00:01] i like it because it comes with python [00:01] HAHAHA [00:01] D'oh! [00:01] alimon: because it works, it's simple, and it's solid. [00:01] KISS! \o/ [00:01] oh yeah, the PYTHON is a bonus! [00:01] danc3: like bsd? [00:01] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:01] BSD sorry [00:01] alimon: only better [00:01] danc3: better, why? [00:02] alimon: because it is highly customisable, a more DIY system, no dependency handling, the package management is great, it is vanilla, the release cycle is good, it is amazingly stable [00:02] alimon: because [00:02] maco (~maco@mackenzie.morgan.name) joined ##slackware. [00:02] maco (~maco@mackenzie.morgan.name) left irc: Changing host [00:02] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) joined ##slackware. [00:02] mrcoffee (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:02] alimon: it has a great community, the logo is great, the init system is great, it comes with a great base for compiling additional software, it runs very well on older machines [00:03] alimon: managing the system is a breeze [00:03] and it makes you feel cool to say that you run it. [00:03] it impresses the chixors [00:03] And the ambigram! Don't forget the ambigram! [00:03] tsccof: the init system is like rc or not? [00:03] tsccof: it's BSD style [00:03] alimon: yea, sysvinit + BSD style scripts in /etc/rc.d [00:04] tsccof: yeah, i use BSD everyday i'ts cool system [00:04] alimon: there is however a /etc/init.d directory, which is a symlink telling the newcomer that it's init system is /etc/rc.d :P [00:04] compared to slackware i find that bsd often feels "not quite right" [00:04] alimon: if you like BSD, you will most likely enjoy Slackware [00:04] rob0: the.... what? [00:04] although i'd highly consider bsd before another linux distro [00:05] tsccof: but Linux is not BSD, that is the problem [00:05] alimon: I am so familiar with Slackware, when running FreeBSD I am not quite in control, it feels a little strange :P [00:05] zaltekk: I've been warming up to fBSD again [00:05] it is the problem [00:05] sorry [00:05] thumbs: i used freebsd around 7.0/7.1/7.2 [00:05] but then i started using slackware instead [00:05] I think it is because of the dependency handling [00:05] i recently installed 8.1, and it didn't come off as polished [00:06] zaltekk: I do like ports quite a bit, though. [00:06] alimon: yea, if you like BSD. I like BSD, but I also like GNU/Linux. Slackware, Arch, FreeBSD < my favourite systems [00:06] zaltekk: FreeBSD lost the soul of the BSD systems [00:06] thumbs: yeah, i didn't give it a very long try. still got it installed, but i had to do some school stuff, so i rebooted back into slackware and have been there since [00:06] one thing's clear to me, the fbsd devil can kick tux's ass. tuz had a chance though with cancer as a handicap... [00:07] does anyone here like Arch too? [00:07] Acidcore (~IFo@82.150.166.32) joined ##slackware. [00:07] tsccof: i hava a Arch system on my desktop [00:07] i'm excited about trying openbsd 4.8 when it comes out in about a week [00:07] thumbs: http://www.google.com/images?q=slackware+ambigram [00:07] i'm hoping the new suspend/resume support allows my laptop to suspend properly [00:07] I need ALSA and flash [00:07] rob0: oh, that's what that's called. [00:08] Wasn't the ambigran dead? [00:08] tsccof: if OSS works [00:08] rob0: thanks, I guess. [00:08] http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/slackware_ambigram_V2_under-overbars-300x75.png [00:08] I just installed Slackware 13.1 DVD on my desktop as a guest OS using Virtual Box. Now I am trying to configure my network. I am in a hostel and the internet connection is wireless. I don't now neither my hostname nor the domain. How can I obtain them? [00:09] alimon: OSS doesn't fit my needs :/ [00:09] tsccof: why not? [00:09] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:09] Acidcore: type "hostname" and press enter [00:09] How many other operating systems read the same right-side-up and upside down? [00:09] those are irrelevant [00:09] You can't write two commands in the same line in Python: http://docs.python.org/reference/lexical_analysis.html [00:09] just enter a hostname you like and leave domainname empty [00:09] rheault (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [00:10] alimon: when connecting the app I run on Wine using jack and wineasio on OSS, the latency is crap, no matter what I do [00:10] problems with networking :S [00:10] asarch: yes you can [00:10] How? [00:10] is it this place? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450278/ [00:10] tsccof: a ok, you're a wi2 faggot [00:10] a=1; b=a+2 [00:10] Don't say that. [00:11] alimon: great respect, thanks [00:11] it not allows me to leave it empy. i am pressing enter but it won't proceed to the next step [00:11] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:11] its not recommended, but if you are doing a lot of little things, it can condense the code [00:11] so enter anything you want [00:11] tsccof: it is a not personal problem, becuase you say win2 [00:12] jajaja [00:12] also you could have skipped this part, said no when it asked if you wanted to configure blah blah [00:12] This question is really killing me [00:12] asarch: whcih question? [00:12] alimon: yeah, learn how to type [00:12] asarch: why do you not just friggin ask it over in #python? [00:12] How to write two commands in the same line in Python [00:12] asarch: why do you not just friggin ask it over in #python? [00:12] asarch: fuck you [00:12] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-84.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] asarch: i just told you&. you use a semicolon between the statements [00:13] I skipped it during the installation mancha but I am trying to configure it now, to have internet on it. [00:13] kickback (~Unknown@122.162.118.173) joined ##slackware. [00:13] alimon: I think if I bought some software and I am actually able to run it on Linux, I shouldn't keep myself from doing it [00:13] i think python will actually accept ; as a command breaker for one line, like if you wanted to make a for loop mashed into one line [00:13] Acidcore: it is in a virtualbox? can't you just "ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth0" ? [00:13] or dhcpcd [00:13] alimon: it is in the box, it is a great software, although closed source and only native on Windows/Mac OS X, I am a bit against wine, but I need this programme [00:13] whichever [00:13] tsccof: yeah, but you are a faggot [00:14] alimon: what's your problem? [00:14] yes, zaltekk it is in virtualbox [00:14] alimon: you don't know me, how can you say something? that's just plain ignorance [00:14] _00ztinflas (~the00z@189.160.17.162) joined ##slackware. [00:14] Acidcore: then you can likely just do what i said. [00:14] i am waiting for the oss vbox to have usb pass through, pprkut promised. [00:15] virtualbox has settings to determine how it exposes your host OS internet connection to the guest OS [00:15] execute the whole command without the quotes? [00:15] Acidcore: sure [00:15] Ok. Everything is fine. [00:15] Question answered! [00:15] :-) [00:15] asarch: good, does that mean you'll be leaving now? [00:15] tsccof: why you mad? [00:16] And sorry for annoying with my stupid question [00:16] mancha: doesnt qemu have that already? [00:16] No, I will not [00:16] danc3: mind not being rude to our guests? [00:16] gniks: you must be new [00:16] >>> print "hello" ; print "bye" [00:16] I'll be more careful next time [00:16] yes, that is why i didn't say i am waiting for qemu to have usb passthrough :) [00:16] danc3: far from it [00:16] thanks zaltekk [00:16] thanks to everyone ;) [00:16] gniks: how about you scroll back a bit and understand... [00:17] gniks: I am with danc3 on this one :P [00:17] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@189.160.202.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:17] alimon kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: We are have Anibal at a Limón party, and since you seem to think it's okay to call someone a "faggot" here, you should join that party. [00:17] he asked a simple question about python, which by my understanding of the linux world, most linux people know, or at least enough of them do, that he would get an answer here&. sure #python is a more appropriate place to ask that question, but no one gets anythign done by being rude to the person [00:17] gniks: I answered his question [00:18] gniks: I googled a great page for him [00:18] gniks: sent him the URL, more than once [00:18] gniks: his question was answered multiple times and he just refused to listen [00:18] the Lexical analysis one? [00:18] >>> print "yes" ; print "this works" [00:18] yes [00:18] this works [00:18] yeah, that one doesn't refer to how to do that [00:18] rworkman: we got it covered ;) [00:18] TIAS always works. [00:18] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Python_Programming/Input_and_output < [00:18] well rob0 would be the last person to give out broken code. [00:18] um, don't count on that! [00:19] My code is pinin' for the fjords. [00:19] gniks: are you referring to the one I just sent? [00:19] rob0: just like that target we executed, I see. [00:19] rob0: did you win any awards for your fjords? [00:20] no, i thought you may have given him the one he posted about the language syntax in the python docs, which doesn't cover the method he was asking about [00:20] maco: I caught the earlier blog entry re stupid emails. I'm just an arrogant ass, but I think those types of people should be *completely* outed. [00:20] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] jimmy_ (bda0cabf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.160.202.191) joined ##slackware. [00:21] rworkman: well i figured since i was reposting the email without permission i should at least do it anonymously [00:21] Acidcore: i guess that means you got a connection working? [00:21] _00ztinflas: hi [00:21] He sent a mail full of asshattery without permission, and there's no expectation of privacy anyway. [00:21] rworkman: something about the ethics of private communications... [00:21] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [00:21] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*bda0cabf@*.189.160.202.191' by rworkman!~rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [00:21] jimmy_ kicked from ##slackware by rworkman: jimmy_ [00:22] y3llow (~y3llow@111-240-235-117.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [00:22] rworkman: im not sure yet whether the earlier conversation in here or the one i just had in #diaspora had more fail... [00:22] gniks: no, he was reading that even after I sent him the correct URL [00:22] ##slackware: mode change '-o rworkman' by rworkman!~rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman [00:22] why was jimmy kicked? [00:23] gniks: I mean, he ignored the answer more than once, he asked us to type it here [00:23] kickback: bad timing [00:23] maco: I understand, and ultimately, I agree - that's just my emotional side coming out ;-) [00:23] Action: thumbs supports robby [00:23] Emotions? Illogical. [00:23] kickback: compare the ip address of jimmy_ and the "faggot" troll I just banned. [00:23] gniks: I offended him too, but I don't think we were that wrong :P [00:23] yeah& he needed it explained in a bit more simple terms [00:23] rob0: definitely :) [00:23] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [00:23] rworkman: can we just ban the nick faggot all together? [00:23] rob0: you're not vulcan. [00:24] gniks: that wasnt the nick, it was an insult that was thrown [00:24] rworkman: oh, i see :D [00:24] thumbs, look at my ears [00:24] ooh& thats just as unacceptable [00:24] Observational skills are good to have :) [00:24] yeah [00:24] What's wrong with calling someone a cigarette? Cancer? [00:24] i just started observing right around the time asarch pissed a bunch of people off :p [00:24] I did [00:24] Action: asarch hides [00:25] gniks: ah! [00:25] i was too busy reading stories about the ddos on riaa :P [00:25] In order to print multiple things on the same line, use commas between them, like so: [00:25] print 'Hello,', 'World' [00:26] from the URL I found [00:26] asarch [00:26] http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html [00:26] that, or print 'hello' + 'world' [00:26] lol, thats printing, and it creates an internal tuple [00:26] It seems that you can use the old ; to use two or more commands: print "Hello"; print "world!" [00:26] rob0: i think cigarette is fag, not faggot [00:26] Concatenate the string representations of each object, then later print the whole thing at once. [00:27] asarch: i said that... [00:27] print str(1)+str(2)+str(0xff)+str(0777)+str(10+5j)+str(-0.999)+str(map)+str(sys) [00:27] format strings are a bit more the norm [00:27] Acidcore: someone i know made a less-grating version of that, in slides form: http://doctormo.org/2010/07/23/asking-smart-questions/ [00:27] _00ztinflas (the00z@189.160.17.162) left ##slackware. [00:27] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [00:27] (warning: avoid the rest of his blog unless you want ubuntu fanboyism to the point of "linux is a tainted brand, so lets all stop using the word") [00:28] (i prefer "so lets fix its perception problems") [00:28] maco: agreed [00:28] thank you maco i will check it ;) [00:29] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:29] i prefer "lets call it GNU / Linux" /o\ [00:29] Let's not ARGUE and BICKER about who killed who. This is supposed to be a HAPPY occasion! [00:29] I have a question, but I am asking it out of curiosity [00:29] if Slackware ceased to exist, what would you run? [00:29] the full gamut. [00:29] Arch or Redhat proper [00:30] The old PJV-bus question. [00:30] Probably OpenBSD [00:30] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.95.243.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:30] anyone know offhand what %-age roughly of kernel commits come from canonical? [00:30] mancha: probably much less < 1% [00:30] 0? [00:30] mancha: i heard 0.5% last time [00:30] Let's not go there - I suspect more than Slackware. What's the implication? [00:30] is redhat still kicking ads in that dept? [00:30] ads=ass [00:31] mancha: canonical's kernel team spends most time cherry picking from new releases to stabilise old releases. the OEM team is the part of canonical that rights new kernel code, and its usually individual drivers for things hardware vendors say "make it go" [00:31] Canonical has a bit more funding that Slackware. [00:31] Just a bit. ;_) [00:31] bit? :P [00:31] maco i see, was curious, as they have a very big share of the userbase... [00:31] ahhh s/rights/writes/ [00:31] PiterPUNK has written a bit, but probably not much [00:32] I've had a few commits in udev and module-init-tools here and there, but nothing major, nothing anyone else couldn't have done, and nothing in the kernel [00:32] mancha: yes, but its mostly integration work, not new devel. most of canonical new devel happens in the design part of the company. User Experience designs something, Desktop Experience implements it, some subset of the Engineering team takes it and integrates it into ubuntu [00:32] I almost had a commit, but I escaped. Whew. [00:33] haha [00:33] jhon23 (~alimon@189.160.81.223) joined ##slackware. [00:33] <-- the one who flew over the cuckoo's nest [00:33] i have one commit in the kernel, but i did it with my @gmail.com instead of my @ubuntu.com so oops i hurt ubuntu stats :P [00:33] knut__ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-104-83.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:33] Actually I saw that pdf before [00:33] I dislike APT [00:33] there, I said it [00:34] maco, those pies charts always have "individual contributors" and they mean that distrib contribs are slightly underestimated [00:34] maco: i thought this conversation was about @canonical.com [00:35] sahko: apparently (and this surprised everyone who does ubuntu membership approvals, such as me) all canonical employees have @ubuntu.com addresses too, so they submit code under *both* email addresses... which makes it hard to pick out canonifolk v. community when doing stats [00:35] i think in the Red Hat v. Canonical GNOME stuff recently, that was including @ubuntu.com addresses [00:36] ##slackware: mode change '-b+b *!*@189.160.202.* *!*@189.160.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [00:36] jhon23 kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: The net grows wider for ban avoiders. [00:36] maco, yeah according to these stats canonical isn't even on the board: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20090716/Picture_3.png [00:36] having fun with the banhammer? [00:36] maco: the actual results are probably even worst then :P [00:36] Dumbass. At least change your user name if you're going to avoid a ban. [00:36] lol [00:37] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-36-154.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [00:37] It's like when the other Homer tried to enter to the Moe's tavern [00:38] i wonder if novell's numbers are gonna fall if the rumors of the split-up-and-sell-the-pieces is true [00:38] eh... red hat and canonical are being stupid in their rivalry. and when i say that, i mean at the upper levels. get a bunch of red hat employees and canonical employees together with some good beer, and there's no rivalry. [00:38] healthy rivalry is good though [00:38] keeps people on their toes and keeps the products good. [00:39] this vid, linked from planet ubuntu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySyPIoyXJ-k is the opposite of canonical/ubuntu in my mind [00:39] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [00:39] its a red hat ad [00:39] its just a bunch of NIH syndrome on Red Hat's side keeping them from taking canonical's code when it's suggested to GNOME or just put out there free for anyone to take and a bunch of ..i dont know what... immaturity?.... when they try to well..basically... induce RH's NIH [00:40] iirc, it all started when shuttleworth called redhat a 'proprietary software company' because they only release source code, and not binaries of RHEL, not sure though [00:40] er the immaturity was on canonical's part [00:41] then ESR criticised Fedora [00:41] and Alan Cox said Red Hat believed in FLOSS [00:41] i guess yeah [00:41] We are the Knights who say NIH! [00:41] the way canonifolk talk about it on the blogosphere is confusing because you get this "canonical is upstream to ubuntu" thing with the design stuff... if you think that canonical is a solid borg collective [00:41] you know, the reason i brough up % contribution before was that when i see canonical rank on redhat i think to myself, who contributes more to linux as a whole [00:41] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] RedHat, I *reckon* [00:42] afaik [00:42] mancha: you cant count that. canonical says ubuntu contributes new blood [00:42] i can count whatever i want, can't i? [00:42] mmmm blood! [00:42] red hat got the people writing the code. at the end of the day that matter more ofc [00:43] i don't know what new blood means but i do know what 9,430 kernel commits means [00:43] Ubuntu is an awful distro. [00:43] Action: tsccof hugs Motoko-chan [00:43] I see people suggesting using 8.04 because it's "stable" [00:43] Over the latest release. [00:43] Action: rob0 covers maco's ears (eyes) [00:43] 8.04 was shit [00:43] ubuntu has probably done more to popularize linux than any other distro... [00:43] for better or worse [00:43] true [00:43] rob0: hahaha [00:44] It's been great at geting the name out there, but it's a crappy experience. [00:44] 8.04 was really unstable [00:44] i'm just saying, no one says you need to make kernel commits. but if you're going to go into mud-slinging mode, best to have the cojones to back it, innit? [00:44] I remember Nautilus crashing, Firefox crashing, totem crashing [00:44] on an HP laptop [00:44] hrm that reminds me. dragon keeps crashing in kubuntu... [00:44] and release is in 2 weeks! [00:44] grazymax (~grazymax@host156-5-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [00:44] yea, we shouldn't bash on ubuntu [00:45] I think :P [00:45] what version of dragon are you slack folks using? 4.5.1? [00:45] i totally condone the bashing of *untu [00:45] lets bash slackware instead [00:45] maco: thats -current, stable has 4.4.3 i think [00:45] but I do think ubuntu is actually bad for learning [00:45] Folks, I'd love to stay and troll more, but there's a bed over there which needs me. [00:45] everything sucks [00:46] 4.5.1 crashing for any of you? [00:46] rob0: "troll more", rofl :P [00:46] cross-distro debugging ;-) [00:46] i guess that is a valid argument, the new blood thing sahko. the argument being ubuntu helped popularize it and therefore bring in more funding directly and indirectly. [00:46] maco: dont use dragonplayer tbh [00:46] i'll buy that [00:46] VLC ftw [00:47] Slackware has ~5 other media players all better than dragon [00:47] alienBOB's VLC package is great [00:47] dragon has gotta be the stupidest media player ive ever seen [00:47] who makes dragon? [00:47] kde... [00:47] dungeons [00:48] haven't people gotten the memo yet? [00:48] bad geek joke [00:48] "we don't need more media players" [00:48] this is almost as bad as when we had one new irc client per day [00:48] imonroe@kde.org [00:48] makes dragon [00:48] mancha: true, but what if you bring more clueless people along, people who demand features/lack of bugs and depend on RH to fix them? isnt that a paradox? [00:48] iirc the reason kubuntu ships dragon is that kaffeine fails on subtitles, or something like that... [00:48] it was almost a rite of passage, 1st comes a "hello, world" in C and next comes an irc client. [00:49] mancha: the big project in my school's networks class is practically an irc client [00:49] i'd never want to use one of those irc clients, maco [00:49] what we need is 50 billion more visualisation pluginns for every media player out there [00:49] *mancha [00:49] zaltekk: heh agreed [00:49] i use pidgin [00:50] and irssi, when I want to look 80's [00:50] sahko, well you have diversification. the clueless people who are just end users say, through their $$ buying preferences put economic pressure on HW OEM makers to become more linux friendly, for example [00:50] grazymax (~grazymax@host156-5-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:50] i use quassel. i like having the core + client ... and bitlbee so i dont have to use pidgin [00:50] cf. recent move of DELL, HP, and i forget who to require any HW maer who bids on contracts to have a FOSS driver for theHW [00:50] i've used irssi for about 2.5 years now. since i bought a laptop i use tmux or screen with irssi on a desktop and ssh in from my laptop [00:50] so i don't have to reconnect [00:50] that is why broadcom finally released open drivers [00:50] talking of irc clients, how do i copy and paste fom an irssi client apart from the middle click? [00:50] wyggler2 (mvlewis@pilot.trilug.org) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:51] depends on your console [00:51] oh, its urxvt [00:51] gnome-terminal it's ctrl+shift+c to copy and ctrl+shift+v to paste, but idk about konsole [00:51] kickback: that would depends on if you are using screen/tmux and/or what terminal you have [00:51] broadcom didn't do it out of some born-again notion of the beauty of open source, they didit because they were blacklisted from bidding on OEM contracts. [00:51] mancha: true, theres many sides to the story. thats the only true benefit of the existance of ubunti for us. but its a big one [00:51] oh. not a clue there... [00:51] maco: konsole is the same [00:51] zaltekk: urxvt, no tmux or screen [00:51] kickback: i don't know, i've never used urxvt [00:52] zaltekk: ah yeah konsole switched to match g-t shortcuts recently, huh? [00:52] maco: sadly that doesnt work in urxvt [00:52] so contributions, big and small, come from different places and in different forms. [00:52] i'm ok with that [00:52] maco: i don't know, i typically use tmux to copy and paste unless i'm using the mouse. [00:52] i guess i'll just switch to tmux. brb [00:53] eh... [00:53] kickback: uhm, well... [00:53] tmux is like screen. it isn't an X app [00:53] how do i copy paste from tmux? [00:53] you'd run tmux in urxvt [00:53] zaltekk: i know [00:53] ^b [ [00:53] then ^b ] to paste [00:53] tmux is a curses app [00:54] i know. brb [00:54] ctrl+space to start highlighting, ctrl+w to finish highlighting and copy [00:54] kickback (~Unknown@122.162.118.173) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:54] kickback (~Unknown@122.162.118.173) joined ##slackware. [00:54] ima on tmux now [00:55] :help [ [00:55] err [00:55] :n00b [00:55] ^b ? [00:55] :help doesn't work [00:56] maco, does ubuntu pretty much rely on debian's security infrastructure or do they have their own independent security team? [00:56] mancha: ubuntu has a security team [00:56] grazymax (~grazymax@host156-5-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [00:59] ffelix (phelix@ditto.arpa.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:00] I use mplayer (unstablr GIT build) [01:01] mplayer doesnt use git [01:01] heh, svn [01:02] grazymax (~grazymax@host156-5-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:02] they have a windows git though [01:02] Appetite (titan@support.team.at.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [01:03] there was an unofficial branch in git as well. dont know if its still active [01:04] did linus create git? [01:04] dunno, snapshots always worked for me [01:04] dustybin: yep [01:04] linux did indeed write git [01:04] dustybin: yes [01:04] linus :> [01:04] or did his wife? [01:04] Action: maco wanders off [01:04] Action: maco whistles innocently [01:04] There still is an unstable git branch [01:05] is his wife also american now? [01:05] mancha: probably [01:05] It still has features mainline doesn't. [01:05] what is the difference between mercurial and git [01:05] linux is american too [01:05] mercurial is written in python [01:05] and git is C? [01:05] and umm... git's probably still faster/better for MASSIVE things like the kernel [01:06] mozilla likes mercurial [01:06] umm perl maybe? [01:06] Action: gniks likes mercurial [01:06] python was right [01:06] funny how noone even bothered to think about canonical's bzr :p [01:07] i'm not fond of bazaar [01:07] mancha: no i meant i think git is perl [01:07] maco: its mostly c and some perl [01:07] Don't forget whatever Pidgin uses. [01:07] git's compiled, fo shizzle [01:07] sahko: ah a hybrid [01:07] Monotone. [01:08] That's painful. [01:08] sahko: and i use bzr ;-) but then, im an ubuntu dev so its second nature to me now [01:09] (yeah i know, i should gtfo, but there's some cool people here) [01:09] git has a perl module for people to use but git itself is in C, innit? [01:12] is bitkeeper even relevant anymore after linux dumped it? [01:12] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:13] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-138-205.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:13] Only in some companies [01:13] i think theres many polish people using yandex cause many of the times the first results link to pl.wikipedia.org [01:14] is there a way to install slackware in a virtual machine (using qemu for example) and then put this hard disk image onto a real machine? [01:14] i need to install slackware on my dad's box, but i don't have it here... [01:16] sounds possible [01:17] knut__ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-104-83.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [01:20] grazymax (~grazymax@host156-5-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:20] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:21] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.23.22) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [01:23] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.175.240) joined ##slackware. [01:23] Nick change: CmdLnKid -> jhell [01:24] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.190) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:26] i wonder why bazaar became a GNU project [01:26] sahko: maybe stallman felt sexy :D [01:26] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:27] stallman? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ [01:27] the church of emacs: http://eris.discordians.net/~eletorsk/stallman20041008.jpg [01:28] zaltekk: jesus lord [01:29] he is picking his toes [01:29] jesus [01:29] kickback_ (~Unknown@122.162.118.173) joined ##slackware. [01:29] can you post the church of emacs links again please? [01:30] around 2:00 or so is the bad part [01:30] suspense [01:30] stallmn was eating stuff from his bare foot [01:30] LOL [01:30] oh that [01:30] Action: dustybin falls off chair [01:30] i've seen the whole speech [01:30] vdv (~vdv@e09R011.mensa-wohnheim.uni-bremen.de) joined ##slackware. [01:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ [01:31] grazymax (~grazymax@host156-5-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [01:31] pretty good speech otherwise :) [01:31] stallman doesnt give a shit [01:32] that looked like a haters gonna hate statement from stallman [01:33] i cant believe he is sitting there bare foot picking and eating, this is excellent [01:33] if you watch when he sits down he pulls off a dress sock [01:33] barf time [01:34] why let good corns go to waste when people are dying of hunger in africa? [01:38] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.229.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [01:39] does 13.1 ship texlive or tetex? [01:39] never mind, i got off my lazy ass and looked in the mirror [01:40] textex is there [01:40] Action: kickback_ wonders if he should conver his bicycle to a single-speed [01:40] convet [01:40] convetr* [01:40] convert** [01:41] shit [01:41] 4th time's a charm? ;) [01:43] does he really eat that? [01:43] i think he eats it several times, it's not a one-off. it's a whole meal... [01:43] I mean, isn't it fake? couldn't it be a RMS joke? [01:44] I can pretend I am eating something off my feet [01:44] i think he was pretending that he was pretending to eat something off his feet [01:44] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [01:45] mancha: that sounds about right [01:46] no wait, that sounds disturbing [01:46] asarch (~asarch@189.188.150.65) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:47] if you take a look at it, we can't see anything [01:47] in his hand [01:47] and I wouldn't chew feet skin like that [01:47] vhann_ (~cynthia@modemcable112.221-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [01:47] how do _you_ chew foot skin? [01:47] vhann_ (~cynthia@modemcable112.221-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:48] tsccof: why would he do that? he probably doesnt give a shit what people think about him eating his feet [01:48] "the etiquette of chewing foot skin" by tsccof [01:48] isbn 4329-42-1111-54X [01:48] lol [01:50] anyone here use texlive? [01:51] i've never used tex [01:51] well, he made GNU emacs, the best OS ever made, we can expect anything from him [01:51] o'rly? [01:51] tsccof: emacs is a pretty good os [01:52] just install vim in emacs and you also have a good editor [01:52] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:53] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: kernel patch-time *joyous* [01:55] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:01] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:02] AbsTradELic (~vldmr@187.64.33.98) joined ##slackware. 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[03:05] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Quit: Bye [03:06] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [03:07] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-227.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:14] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:16] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [03:17] rhisa (~rhisa@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [03:17] rhisa (~rhisa@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Changing host [03:17] rhisa (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [03:18] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:18] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) joined ##slackware. [03:23] Morning. [03:24] Morning [03:24] rhisa: how you doing [03:24] Alright, just happy playing WoW and SC2. [03:24] I need a break! :) [03:24] haha a WoW geek... i knew it [03:25] what is sc2? [03:25] save me the google :D [03:25] starcraft2 [03:25] Yep! [03:25] aye ok [03:25] games take too much time and make you feel wierd after [03:26] It does? [03:26] Only if you play too much. :) [03:26] Well I dunno, I have too much fun. [03:26] What do you do with your free time hten? [03:27] in the C64 days it was sprites and blocks, now things look like real life [03:28] rhisa: a mixture of cooking, films and seeing my friends as much as possible and linux [03:28] Hehe, films? You are a film maker? [03:28] noooo just watch [03:29] and general tv what mythtv has recorded for me [03:29] kickback_ (~Unknown@122.162.118.173) left irc: Quit: leaving [03:29] when one has a linux habit, one will never be bored ever again :D [03:29] programming goes in that same boat [03:30] i havent entered the coding world yet, but i know it will be another big massive world [03:30] MarkDude (~mark@pdpc/supporter/student/markdude) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [03:31] I want like 100 computers, no matter how slow are they. If there a fast enough to run a screensaver. Slackware has great screensavers. I can't choose. I want to set all of them on. ;) [03:31] :] [03:31] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-132-228.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:32] Acidcore: you can set all of them on. you can have one randomly play at a time [03:32] tsccof (~tsccof@201-25-1-169.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:33] Action: dustybin feels happy its the weekend [03:33] kickback (~Unknown@122.162.118.173) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:34] knut__ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-83-72.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:35] I am glad it is the weekend too. [03:35] Sometimes I'm just gald to be alive. [03:36] linux_probe (~chris@cpe-75-185-178-138.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:36] I saw that option already [03:37] tnx zaltekk [03:37] there was ktts in kde3, does kde4 miss that? [03:38] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [03:38] vdv: what is ktts? [03:38] KDE Text-to-Speech System [03:39] man i havent been to sleep [03:39] Sat Sep 25 08:35:45 BST 2010 [03:40] Sat Sep 25 03:37:24 EDT 2010 [03:40] where is EDT [03:41] east coast of the united states [03:41] ok [03:41] usually EST, EDT is because of Daylight Savings Time [03:41] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) joined ##slackware. [03:41] ok [03:42] tsccof (~tsccof@201-25-1-169.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:43] tsccof (~tsccof@189-10-132-252.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [03:49] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:58] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [03:58] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [04:01] korg815 (~korg815@unaffiliated/korg815) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [04:03] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [04:03] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:03] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [04:05] is there a voice command programme for gnu/linux or *bsd? [04:11] grazymax (~grazymax@host156-5-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [04:17] init[1] (~AndChat@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:17] tsccof (~tsccof@189-10-132-252.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:17] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:17] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:18] init[1] (~AndChat@110.225.110.90) joined ##slackware. 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[04:45] toothkit: yea! could be any, actually [04:45] stephen_ (~twoshot_@user-0cetgcn.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [04:47] not sure on recognition, but if you find out, will you let me know? [04:47] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@user-0cetgcn.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:48] elbeardmorez (~elbeardmo@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:53] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [04:53] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:55] WARNING TO ALL PERSONNEL: Firings will continue until morale improves. [04:57] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:00] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:01] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [05:03] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: _marc` [05:03] Nick change: gimped -> Gimped [05:04] Akiraa (~Akiraaaa@79.112.50.16) joined ##slackware. [05:06] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com ) [05:06] newslacker (root@207-119-220-22.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [05:10] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [05:10] does anybody know, what's the reason that ktts is not included in 13.1's kde4? [05:16] maybe it wasnt ported to kde4? [05:17] either that or a missing dependency prevent it to build [05:18] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [05:22] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [05:24] Iraqi (~Iraqi@unaffiliated/iraqi) joined ##slackware. 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[05:54] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:54] does it depend on speex or something like that? [05:56] v4nelle (~van@79.107.242.251) joined ##slackware. [05:56] "Jovie requires either speech dispatcher or opentts." i think thats the problem [05:56] shadowx (~slack@singularity.darknetx.eu) left irc: Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared! [05:59] fourstrings (~4Strings@151.55.7.170) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [06:00] neither of these is in Slackware, or slackbuilds.org. so you'd have to install either of them yourself and then recompile kdeaccessibility [06:01] and submit any resulting slackbuild to SBo... [06:02] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) joined ##slackware. [06:02] andybiker (~andrew@cpc1-rdng7-0-0-cust904.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [06:02] isn't speex only an audio codec meant for voice (as opposed to voice+music)? [06:03] yeah, probably [06:04] grazymax (~grazymax@host156-5-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [06:05] vdv: ftr both of those, opentts is a speech dispatcher fork, seem to have some not so common dependencies [06:05] so its not gonna be a very easy task to accomplish [06:06] sahko, to accomplish what? [06:06] for starters, building them [06:08] i have to bring some tts engine to work, no matter ktts or opentts :) [06:08] good luck:) [06:12] |Slacker| (~cris@187.112.97.99) left irc: Read error: No route to host [06:12] asteroid (~asteroid@78.119.85.163) joined ##slackware. [06:12] asteroid (~asteroid@78.119.85.163) left irc: Changing host [06:12] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [06:17] how can I parse more than 9 arguments to a shell script? [06:18] start thinking about something better than a shell script? [06:19] tldp.org, might google for 'site:tldp.org shift' [06:19] too [06:19] and env vars [06:19] BVX (b@boringvx.stalker.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [06:20] adrien: thanks [06:20] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-84.dial.telus.net) left irc: Quit: Client exited [06:23] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:24] grazymax (~grazymax@host131-158-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:25] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:28] BVX (b@boringvx.stalker.fi) joined ##slackware. [06:28] asarch (~asarch@187.132.135.58) joined ##slackware. [06:32] bonjour tout le monde [06:32] oops, sorry [06:32] i thought i was in #slackware-fr :P [06:37] =) [06:43] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [06:44] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [06:44] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [06:45] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:45] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.42.113) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:48] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [06:49] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [06:50] ashe (~ashe@125.166.167.128) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [06:51] maco (~maco@mackenzie.morgan.name) joined ##slackware. [06:51] maco (~maco@mackenzie.morgan.name) left irc: Changing host [06:51] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) joined ##slackware. [06:52] ashe (~ashe@125.166.178.209) joined ##slackware. [06:55] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.42.113) joined ##slackware. [06:58] jeez my disk broke down in my old svn machine.. it hink [06:58] think [06:59] maco2 (~maco@mackenzie.morgan.name) joined ##slackware. [06:59] maco2 (~maco@mackenzie.morgan.name) left irc: Changing host [06:59] maco2 (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) joined ##slackware. [06:59] i cant execute some commands like du [06:59] maco (~maco@ubuntu/member/maco) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:59] error? [07:00] only this bash: /bin/du: cannot execute binary file [07:00] and i cant change its permissions [07:00] fs corruption mayhaps? [07:00] fsck? [07:00] yes yes ofc [07:00] brb [07:00] :D [07:01] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [07:04] hmm i connected a screen and it spams errors [07:05] what errors? [07:06] ext4-fs error device hda2 something about inode [07:06] jemark (~mark@86-44-32-251-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [07:06] why don't you let fsck fix it, which it can't do on a mounted volume [07:07] is this a slackware machine? if so touch /etc/forcefsck and reboot it [07:07] dying disk or damaged FS? [07:08] unless you're sure the drive's screwed in which case go to the shop in the mornning. [07:09] thank you.. but it wont even boot now :D [07:09] its screwed hehe [07:09] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [07:10] that's too bad. was it old? [07:11] yeah but i hade moving the svn repos :D [07:11] i had like 10 T_T [07:14] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [07:15] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:16] Buggaboo (~Buggaboo@535316B2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:31] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:37] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. 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[07:45] thats what i need to get teh drivers for it ok [07:46] if it doesn't, you're doing it wrong [07:47] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:47] ok this is what it gave me [07:48] 00:00.0 Class 0500: 10de:0547 (rev a2) [07:48] 00:01.0 Class 0601: 10de:0548 (rev a2) [07:48] 00:01.1 Class 0c05: 10de:0542 (rev a2) [07:48] Channel flood from its-me-again -- kicking [07:48] 00:01.2 Class 0500: 10de:0541 (rev a2) [07:48] 00:01.3 Class 0b40: 10de:0543 (rev a2) [07:48] its-me-again kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [07:48] its-me-again (~ts-me-aga@60.234.143.108) joined ##slackware. [07:48] oops sorry for flood [07:49] hiptobecubic (~john@a75089.upc-a.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:49] hiptobecubic (~john@a75089.upc-a.chello.nl) left irc: Changing host [07:49] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [07:50] Skywise: here is what it gave me http://www.pastebin.org/1182726 [07:51] That is a "lspci -n" output which does not tell much [07:51] Try "lspci -v" instead [07:51] man lspci [07:51] its-me-again, not "lspci -n" [07:51] Nick change: Roin -> FCC|Roin [07:52] just lspci | grep VGA [07:52] limac (~chatzilla@ool-45745a6d.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [07:52] hi, when using adduser, what groups should I add? [07:52] initial groups that is [07:53] none [07:53] v4nelle (~van@79.107.242.251) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:53] ok [07:53] limac: if you follow the instructions and press up when prompted you should get an idea [07:54] thats the UP arrow btw [07:54] right [07:54] they have: audio, cdrom, floppy, plugdev, video, power, netdev [07:54] should I add those? [07:55] do you want every user to be able to control those? [07:55] ok thanks i have an nvidia gforce 700m card what drivers do i need [07:55] are they in gsplat [07:55] Skywise: not every, the one hes adding [07:55] yes [07:55] what is netdev? [07:55] i thought he was asking about default groups for all his users [07:55] its-me-again, wtf is "gsplat"? [07:56] anasorry teh packmanager sorry [07:56] its-me-again, go www.nvidia.com and search for your graphic card [07:56] * Ansa89 sorry [07:56] is there slackware drivers available there [07:56] in slackware there isn't a packetmanager [07:57] ok i am new to slackware [07:57] its-me-again, go www.nvidia.com and search for your graphic card [07:57] so there are no compiled drivers for nvidia drivers ok [07:57] its not like windows [07:57] its-me-again: are you certain you are running Slackware? Not one of the other distros that has been forked off Slackware? [07:58] We do not ship gslapt... other distros do [08:00] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. 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[08:31] the cover leter seemed okay [08:31] wait CD development hmm [08:32] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [08:33] CHMOD! [08:37] pronounced schmod by my teacher [08:37] I can download like nobody's business [08:38] but.. but.. he knows _telnet_, for $DIETY's sake! he's a pro! [08:38] he lists exactly one programming language skill: javascript [08:39] it's fail on a too-foten seen scale, unfortunately [08:39] *too-often [08:40] adaptr: at least it's not "scripting in java" >< [08:40] the tone of his application is also rather assuming [08:41] "then my expertise WILL BE of interest" [08:41] orly ? [08:41] Acidcore (~IFo@82.150.166.32) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:43] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:47] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.248) joined ##slackware. [08:53] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. 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[11:10] Hi [11:11] I used to set the FQDN that was registered to hostname, but this leads to problems. [11:11] When I want to ping my FQDN, it pings 127.0.0.1 instead of the external IP. [11:11] hey guys, I have been trying to do a slackbuild for bind9 following this tutorial 'http://www.slackwiki.org/Writing_A_SlackBuild_Script' but I have to say this is kicking my ass right now. Anyone has another tutorial for newbie like me to advise ? [11:11] So I changed hostname to my nickname. [11:11] Is it a proper behavior? [11:11] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [11:12] zongo_: pastebin what you have so far [11:12] I specified my new hostname in /etc/hosts and /etc/HOSTNAME [11:12] zongo_, BIND is a Slackware-provided package. If you want to change it, fine, but I suggest starting with Pat's slackbuild. [11:12] It used to be crocket.xxx.com, but it's not just crocket. [11:13] v4nelle (~van@79.107.242.251) joined ##slackware. [11:14] I was on the slackbuild repo and could not find it :) [11:14] crocket: you set your hostname with "hostname". whether or not that writes to /etc/hostname is distro-specific [11:14] zongo_: you're not listening [11:14] adaptr : It's slackware. [11:14] What "slackbuild repo" do you mean? [11:14] crocket: I know that/ [11:15] adaptr: s#/etc/hostname#/etc/HOSTNAME# ;) [11:15] Look in slackware-$VERSION/source/n/bind/ [11:15] BP{k}: details, schmetails [11:16] :P [11:16] BP{k}, adaptr is trying to up his standards. [11:16] rob0: haha [11:16] adaptr : I set /etc/HOSTNAME to crocket.xxx.com, and removed crocket.xxx.com from and left crocket intact in /etc/hosts. After reboot, sendmail MTA couldn't resolve my FQDN, so took very long to let go in the boot process. [11:16] adaptr, get you know.. [11:16] I think sendmail MTA reads hostname from /etc/HOSTNAME and tries to resolve it against /etc/hosts. [11:16] But /etc/hosts didn't have crocket.xxx.com and only had crocket. [11:17] crocket: sendmail doesn't used the hosts file. [11:17] Not directly, but indirectly [11:17] thumbs: of course it does. if you set your hostname to a dumb IP in it, you will croak all services on the box. [11:17] But, sendmail might use system resolver functions which do read hosts(5) [11:18] sendmail uses system resolver, and system resolver reads from hosts first by default. [11:18] I'm just paranoid about the concept that the hostname should be an FQDN. [11:18] Should I stick to this concept? [11:18] I need a guideline. [11:19] #hostname : slacker [11:19] #hostname - f: slacker.adaptr.nl [11:19] gimped (~gimped@adsl-75-28-162-164.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:20] For now 127.0.0.1 has only localhost and crocket as aliases in /etc/hosts. [11:20] crocket: if sendmail wants a FQDN, it will run the resolver query required to get one. [11:20] adaptr : I don't know if sendmail wants a FQDN, but I'm worried about possible future consequences. [11:21] hostname, as such, should return a local machine name. [11:21] not an fqdn [11:21] gimped (~gimped@adsl-75-28-162-164.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Max SendQ exceeded [11:21] slackware installer recommends set an FQDN as a hostname. [11:23] andybiker (~andrew@cpc1-rdng7-0-0-cust904.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:23] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [11:25] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [11:25] Please read http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/chap9sec95.html . This one sets all hostnames to FQDNs. [11:26] redhat made the slackware installer ? [11:27] darylc (~darylc@cpe-76-167-233-29.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:27] WarrenSH (~info@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:27] No of course it did not [11:28] the installer source doesn't get published, does it? [11:28] it could be a cover up [11:28] Yes it would be very American to think so [11:29] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:29] crocket: sendmail wants FQDNs.. and having "crocket" as an alias for 127.0.0.1 is not going to help [11:29] Nick change: CtrlAltCa -> |CtrlAltCa| [11:29] Redhat wouldn't have an incentive to make slackware installer since it doesn't make money. [11:29] Nick change: |CtrlAltCa| -> CtrlAltCa [11:30] Did you read that comment in /etc/hosts that starts with "By the way, Arnt Gulbrandsen says that 127.0.0.1 should NEVER be named with the name of the machine." [11:30] The md5sum of a file I downloaded differs from the one in the slackbuild's .info file. But the README states: "The snapshot is updated [11:30] daily, so the MD5SUM and VERSION numbers are not likely to match". Now, how can I be sure the downloaded file is ok? [11:30] thrice`: I think it's a comb-over rather than a cover-up [11:30] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:30] Jedman, build the package and see if it works :) [11:30] Jedman: you determine that yourself [11:30] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:30] How do you think the original SlackBuild writer determined the md5sum? [11:31] dc (~dc@cpe-76-167-233-29.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:31] thanks guys, but if it's not ok, the package will just not work or what? [11:31] usually a bad download won't even extract completely. you can run md5sum tarball.tar.gz and compare it to what the project publishes as a checksum (if they do publish one, that is) [11:33] All right, I'll check it out. [11:35] darylc (~darylc@cpe-76-167-233-29.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: entering sleep mode [11:36] Nicce (~Nicke@93.179.52.126) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:39] BVX (b@boringvx.stalker.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [11:39] alienBOB : What's the reason that sendmail wants an FQDN? [11:40] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [11:45] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) joined ##slackware. [11:45] crocket: I did not write sendmail [11:45] liar [11:45] It requires it. Period [11:45] Hehe [11:45] I _might_ have written it ;-) [11:45] when you were drunk ? [11:46] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [11:46] Possibly. That is why I do not remember writing it of course [11:46] alienBOB, I think so because specifying only crocket both in /etc/HOSTNAME and /etc/hosts results in sendmailt MTA hanging. [11:46] it hangs for dns reasons eh [11:47] i never start sendmail so .. ;) [11:47] alienBOB : I already have crocket.xxx.com registered to DNS and want to make crocket.xxx.com point to my external IP instead of localhost. [11:47] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:48] alienBOB, How would you set /etc/hosts and /etc/HOSTNAME in this case? [11:49] er [11:50] crocket, you are unclear on some fundamental concepts, and i suggest you read the basics first [11:50] Skywise : basics on what? [11:50] networking [11:51] look in /usr/doc [11:52] you'll find how-tos, and faqs about everything [11:53] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) joined ##slackware. [11:54] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [11:56] crocket: did you notice there is a new murrine version out? [11:56] sahko : no [11:57] sahko : I usually don't know because I haven't set any notifier for my slackbuilds. [11:57] Just four days ago [11:58] I'll update it soon [11:58] sahko, How did you know there was a new version? [12:00] magic 8-ball [12:04] Raggs (~x@99-29-0-126.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:06] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:07] crocket: one way would be becoming a fan of it here: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42755 i think you get notified [12:10] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:11] Skywise : I found /usr/doc/Linux-FAQs, but there is nothing about networking. [12:11] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:12] alimon (~alimon@189.160.81.223) joined ##slackware. [12:12] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@189.160.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [12:12] alimon kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: The net grows wider for ban avoiders. [12:13] maybe should I set crocket.localhost as the FQDN in /etc/HOSTNAME and in /etc/hosts? [12:14] sopas (~souphead@120.28.189.220) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:14] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.248) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:14] I don't want crocket.xxx.com to point to localhost since it's registered to global DNS. [12:14] crocket: can you say "crocket.example.com" instead? [12:14] ??? [12:14] say? [12:14] I mean, "crocket.xxx.com" is going to give me nightmares [12:15] try http://example.com [12:15] adrien : you don't like xxx.com? [12:15] looks like you have a sub-domain dedicated to pr0n involving you [12:16] man [12:16] ok [12:16] I don't want crocket.blah.com pointed to localhost. [12:17] I leads to problems when I want to test network functions regarding my global FQDN. [12:17] *It leads [12:17] I want a clean solution [12:18] you're making a gigantic woolly mammoth out of a molehill [12:19] adaptr, I don't understand it [12:19] You should consider that my english is not even close to being my second language. [12:19] it sounds pretty goog though [12:20] perhaps you need to speak worse so we are constantly reminded of that fact [12:20] i see in my /bin directory a file named "[", what is this? [12:21] it's a command [12:21] no man page for it [12:21] do you have the same command adaptr ? [12:22] every GNU distribution does [12:22] it is a conditional execution construct [12:23] tank-man: man test [12:23] thanks for the man page [12:24] adrien: good catch, I was scrabbling for the name [12:29] Jedman (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/jedman) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:30] quasars (~agi@69-179-247-121.stat.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:30] nyRednek_ (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[12:48] Anyway [12:49] crocket.localdomain in /etc/HOSTNAME and "127.0.0.1 crocket.localdomain crocket" in /etc/hosts make sendmail MTA work flawlessly again. [12:49] quasars (~agi@69-179-247-121.stat.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] quasars (~agi@69-179-247-121.stat.centurytel.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:50] quasars (~agi@69-179-247-121.stat.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:50] /usr/share/mkinitrd/mkinitrd_command_generator.sh is taking longer than usual to run after I upgraded the kernel to 13.1 64bit v2. Wait it out, or is there another issue? [12:53] how much longer [12:53] like 4 seconds or like hours [12:54] lemonzest (~lemonzest@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust234.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:54] quasars (agi@69-179-247-121.stat.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [12:58] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) joined ##slackware. [12:59] bnguyen (~bnguyen@123.30.12.77) joined ##slackware. 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[13:26] redtricycle: i've never used that script, i always do it directly. but depending on how many modules are included and how fast/slow your system is, i could see it taking a minute to complete [13:27] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [13:27] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [13:34] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) joined ##slackware. [13:34] BuGi (~opera@83.243.107.79) joined ##slackware. [13:35] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [13:37] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:39] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:40] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) joined ##slackware. [13:40] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:40] |Slacker| (~cris@200.146.78.239.static.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:43] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:48] Nick change: nyRednek_ -> nyRednek [13:49] Oak (~asna@115.167.18.160) joined ##slackware. [13:49] Oak (~asna@115.167.18.160) left irc: Changing host [13:49] Oak (~asna@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [13:49] hello happy people [13:50] emerge happy people [13:50] gniks: hehe [13:50] upgradepkg sadpeople [13:50] adaptr: yeah [13:50] gniks: take yer gentoolisms outta here! [13:51] hi, I am on Slackware 13. After 'startx', system is automatically picking 1152x864 @ 75Hz resolution. How do I make it pick 1024x768@85Hz? [13:51] i don't like gentoo, its just funny [13:51] Oak: choose a different resolution in the X settings screen ? [13:51] cd /usr/pkgsrc/misc/happyPeople && make install [13:51] adaptr, when I restart, it will get back to 1152x864 [13:52] then you need to fix that mode in your xorg.conf [13:54] have you ever used anything higher than Slackware 12.2? [13:54] Oak: you can still set video modes in an xorg.conf [13:54] lulz [13:55] Oak, http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 [13:55] Oak: oh, you're an ass. got it, thanks [13:55] thanks thrice` [13:56] Matux|Out (~ArrOb@40.Red-88-16-131.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] Matux|Out (ArrOb@40.Red-88-16-131.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left ##slackware. [13:56] sure, it has a nice "xorg.conf configuration" portion [13:57] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.95.243.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:00] Oak (~asna@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:04] Roin (~florian@p5B2BCFD3.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:05] BuGi (opera@83.243.107.79) left ##slackware. [14:05] tenzn (dindh@unaffiliated/samuel9999) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [14:05] Roin (~florian@p5B2BE63B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:07] Oak (~asna@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [14:08] thrice`, do I have to rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf-vesa to xorg.conf ? I added the Modeline in xorg.conf-vesa but when I restart X, I again get back to 1152x864 [14:09] that would make sense [14:09] Oak, yes, xorg.conf-vesa is an example config file, but will call the vesa driver (which you probably wont' want). just create a xorg.conf from scratch :) [14:09] Oak: yes. [14:10] ok thanks... here we go again [14:10] Oak (~asna@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Client Quit [14:13] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@189.160.* expired. [14:13] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@189.160.*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:13] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:16] null-pointer (~martinus@180.211.95.230) joined ##slackware. [14:16] AndChat| (~AndChat@190.sub-97-198-206.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:18] lemonzest (~lemonzest@cpc1-nott14-2-0-cust234.12-2.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[14:46] i think i haven't enabled the build-in command line option [14:46] you need the seamonkey libs [14:46] i don't know. it is vanilla Slackware 13 [14:46] they are part of a full installation of slackware and you need to have them installed before running the SlackBuild. I think in 13.0 they are in patches/ [14:47] okie thanks erik [14:47] /proc/asound can be the right place to insert it? [14:48] epapi: I forget where you can set that, but have you tried adding the option on the kernel command line ? [14:48] what command line? [14:49] ... [14:49] sorry i've never used it. but i'm sure i've disabled it from the kernel configuration if it is optional [14:49] how does your computer start ? [14:49] so with lilo? [14:49] lulz [14:50] ffds (~fdfdsfds@201.255.169.42) joined ##slackware. [14:50] epapi: indirectly, and as far as you are concerned if you want to make it permanent, yes, with lilo. however, not now, and no, not in this case. [14:50] ffds (fdfdsfds@201.255.169.42) left ##slackware. [14:51] ok thx a lot. i'll try [14:51] I would never have expected to come across people who don't know what the kernel command line is in ##slackware [14:51] eheh.. [14:51] what happens if you boot your computer and hit TAB when LILO loads ? [14:52] >>kernel command line? [14:52] yes [14:53] the kernel command is usually "linux", but it takes a lot of optional parameters [14:53] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:54] adaptr: you'd be surprised at how many people don't know that [14:54] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) joined ##slackware. [14:54] if you don't need it... [14:54] heheh I guess I did do that3-year gentoo stint [14:55] whatever else is wrong with gentoo, you definitely learn where all the pieces go [14:56] gcc -fun-safe-looop-optimizations [14:56] wouldn't you know it, chrome 6 no longer eats up jiggabytes on tabs that are refreshed by dynamic content (cacti, youtube, etc) [14:57] I guess I wanted to just mention that [14:57] switching from kde4 to xfce probably helped, too [14:57] -funrool-loops! [14:58] -fun-roll-oops! [14:59] and funroll-loops.info ;-) [14:59] chrome works now thanks guys \o/ [14:59] Oak (~asna@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:00] adrien: I dare you to infinite-depth -funroll-loops on a fractal generator [15:00] your computer will eat itself [15:01] adaptr: its fun to watch computers eat themselves [15:01] adaptr: thanks, I'm fine ;-) [15:01] as long as it's YOURS, sure [15:01] not MINE [15:02] which reminds me.. I should game [15:03] epapi (~epapi@78.134.15.176) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:04] does anyone use vlc? [15:04] on occasion [15:04] i use it quite often [15:05] i use cvlc a lot since a few days ago that i learned about it [15:05] Action: thrice` really likes vlc over mplayer lately [15:06] mancha: does vlc link against cdio or cddb? ldd $(which vlc) |grep cd [15:06] Nick change: xchg -> TomasHanzelo [15:07] its funny that qmmp doesnt seem to here [15:07] Nick change: TomasHanzelo -> xchg [15:07] i know its irrelevant to vlc [15:07] Raggs (~x@99-29-0-126.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:08] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:09] i would use vlc only if i didnt have to build ffmpeg [15:10] sahko: use alienBOB's ffmpeg(or vlc, even) [15:10] zaltekk: i dont install other peoples packages besides proper Slack. not that i dont trust him [15:11] sahko: well, considering he works on "proper Slack"... [15:12] so? does it link? [15:12] what? [15:13] does vlc link against cdio or cddb? ldd $(which vlc) |grep cd [15:13] sahko: http://codepad.org/oIL12DqV [15:14] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:14] Rev_Willie (~william@ip70-188-16-112.rn.hr.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] wtf is libvlc & libvlcore [15:15] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [15:16] nevermind ill figure it out [15:17] they come from the vlc package itself [15:17] thanks for the paste [15:17] yeah, obviously, i didnt mean ill figure this out. but why qmmp doesnt pick up the libcd* libs, if it should [15:18] will try playing an audio cd [15:20] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@unaffiliated/bichito) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [15:22] briareus (~briareus@ip68-98-234-158.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:22] briareus (~briareus@ip68-98-234-158.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Changing host [15:22] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [15:23] josemanuel (~josemanue@157.252.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [15:25] sahko: you don't have to be that paranoid about my packages [15:26] You can even build vlc using my SlackBuild [15:27] vlc is pretty easy to build on its own too - you just need ffmpeg and a couple deps [15:27] And btw vlc no longer uses libcdio. It uses libcddb though [15:27] thrice`: a basic vlc is not soe hard to build if you use dynamic linking indeed. [15:28] alienBOB: does your qmmp link against any of those? [15:28] alienBOB, yeah; I think I had lame, ffmpeg (with faac, faad), and a52dec only [15:28] Still, look at ubuntu's constant issues with vlc and ffmpeg and you know why it is sensitive to build it statically [15:29] thrice`: you get a vlc that will not be a swiss army knife then. But it will play many formats still [15:29] sahko: apparently qmmp does not [15:29] nice to know. someone submitted vlc @ SBo btw its in pending [15:29] it can decode plenty - probably not the best for encoding, but it handles my stuff alright [15:30] i prefer simplicity to a giant, 20mb package :p [15:30] thrice`: to each his own [15:30] I prefer a player that keeps working after upgrading the depencies [15:31] yeah, using -current is the most obvious reason for not using other peoples packages [15:31] sahko: the configure script of qmmp says: "-- checking for modules 'libcdio;libcdio_cdda;libcdio_paranoia;libcddb' -- found libcdio, version 0.79 -- found libcdio_cdda, version 0.79 -- found libcdio_paranoia, version 0.79 -- found libcddb, version 1.3.0" [15:31] fuzzix_ (~fuzzix@109.76.147.90) joined ##slackware. [15:31] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.175.240) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:32] they *will* break at some point [15:32] sahko: his vlc package works fine on -current [15:33] mrcoffee (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [15:33] alienBOB, any chance you plan to build qt ? [15:33] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:33] thrice`: why, apparently no one installs my packages anyway? [15:33] alienBOB: thanks, im compiling something else atm and couldnt check [15:33] haha [15:33] Action: thrice` wanders away [15:34] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:04] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-205.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:14] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [17:15] ph8 (ph8@85.234.155.91) joined ##slackware. [17:17] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:20] zongo_ (~zongo@86-41-77-139-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:23] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.176.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:23] Guys, I have installed ddclient and when I run ddclient i get "FATAL:Error loading the Perl module IO::Socket::SSL needed for SSL connect. [17:23] FATAL: On Debian, the package libio-socket-ssl-perl must be installed. [17:23] " [17:23] I have reo [17:24] I have reinstalled net-ssleay [17:24] but still everytime i get the same error [17:24] What I am doing wrong ? [17:24] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/perl-IO-Socket-SSL/ [17:25] XGizzmo, I have installed and reinstalled the package [17:25] I still get the error [17:26] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [17:28] that isn't net-ssleay [17:28] you need both according to that link [17:28] correct [17:28] done both [17:28] i have no idea then...i don't touch perl. [17:31] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:31] zongo_ you're certain you've installed IO::Socket::SSL ? [17:32] perl -e "install IO::Socket::SSL" [17:32] yep, reinstalling from scratch once more as we speak :) [17:36] amine_ (~Genki@41.137.56.16) joined ##slackware. [17:37] i am completely fried as well. I have trying to write a slackbuild script for lftp as well :) [17:38] my first time to get close to scripting [17:38] learning curve is steep [17:38] but fun [17:38] lftp is included in slack, no? [17:38] it is [17:39] was looking for it but did not find it...Then I must have miss it :) [17:39] it should be in "n" install it from there. [17:39] will look for it there then when I have sorted my ddclient [17:40] should go for coffee first :) [17:44] CONNECTED: using SSL. Thanks guys, I reinstalled both packages and it worked. I think I actually never installed "IO Socket SSL"... [17:45] Cheers [17:45] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-118-201.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:46] i figured as much. glad it works. [17:46] zongo__ (~zongo@86-41-77-139-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [17:48] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-97-187.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:48] [ installed ] - lftp-4.0.7-i486-1 --> That one too [17:48] was already installed [17:53] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:46] Action: GuardabosqueS pos naaa, estare en google [18:47] Action: GuardabosqueS chao [18:47] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:47] bogusjokes (~Doomguy@78-82-252-77.tn.glocalnet.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:49] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) joined ##slackware. [18:49] hmm, i hope downgrading from -current to 13.1 with slackpkg goes as smoothly as i'm assuming it will [18:50] sounds unlikely [18:50] mancha: why do you say that? [18:51] just sounds like a lot can go wrong [18:51] BiCHiTo (Yposu4i2zw@bnc25.nggn.info) joined ##slackware. [18:51] well, i'm just replacing packages. [18:51] Nick change: BiCHiTo -> Guest5655 [18:51] and of course deleting my ~/.kde folder just in case [18:51] since it tends to cause issues [18:51] i might need to slightly modify my vimrc too [18:52] ok sounds like it will work [18:52] happier? :) [18:52] lol, not if that's the second answer :P [18:53] i've never done it before, but i don't see how it is any different than upgrading with slackpkg [18:53] other than the fact that it probably isn't done in this direction very often [18:53] but i am tired of the kde from -current having issues with the desktop effects slowing down the entire system [18:53] does someone of you have pre-commit hooks in a subversion server ? ... i have post-commit working, but not pre-commit, i did ask some help in #svn, but anything heppen yet .. [18:54] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [18:54] i get this error when i do a commit: [18:54] svn: Error waiting for process '/media/svn/misc/stuffs/hooks/pre-commit': No child processes [18:55] btw, post-commit works normally ... & here is my pre-commit script http://dpaste.com/248963/ [18:56] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:56] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) joined ##slackware. [18:58] amine_ (~Genki@41.137.56.16) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:59] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:59] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [19:01] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:02] hmm, is there a way to make iso of the DVDs I own for backup purposes? [19:02] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) joined ##slackware. [19:02] Urugami (~AndChat@0.sub-97-228-103.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [19:02] or does that require libdvdcss or whatever its called :\ [19:03] Edogaa: you'd need libdvdcss [19:03] Ah [19:03] LOL, I don't think its illegal to use that anymore in he USA since the new DMCA ruling on DRM lol... [19:04] I could be wrong though [19:04] i don't know the ruling you are refering to [19:04] i just tend to ignore stupid laws [19:04] maybe it will catch up to me one day. [19:04] paissad: Is your hook executable [19:04] Basically, you can break DRM for interoperability. [19:04] which is most of what DRM prevents [19:04] Action: zaltekk glares at Apple [19:05] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [19:05] neonflux (~neonflux@adsl-66-120-23-227.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] XGi [19:07] XGizzmo, yes it's executable ;) [19:07] rachael (~rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:11] cen___ (cen@pool-71-246-108-208.nycmny.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [19:12] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:12] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) joined ##slackware. [19:16] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:18] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:18] greetings and salutations [19:18] jdetring (~jay@adsl-71-153-138-155.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:18] hello [19:20] Why do many videos I Watch in mplayer or XINE give me issues :\ like segfaults or occasionally, with mplayer when I wskip around, "Number of reference frames exceeds max (probably corupt input), discarding one" [19:21] Edogaa: bad encoders/decoders? i have some h264 videos that mplayer won't play, but vlc plays fine [19:21] Ah [19:21] I prefer mplayer though [19:21] Edogaa: those frames... which graphic card you have? [19:21] nvidia [19:22] Edogaa: fun stuff is that i have more dropped frames in window than in fullscreen, AMD here [19:22] Wha? [19:22] its a 4200HD igp [19:23] I have an nvidia gtx 260? [19:23] igp... [19:23] integrated graphic port [19:23] intergrated gr- [19:23] oh [19:23] okay so I Was right [19:24] good timing [19:24] :) [19:25] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:25] Edogaa: you can set mplayer to drop frames/not drop and some hard dropping dont know it actually what it does [19:25] mne is set to drop not [19:25] mine* [19:28] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:29] where in preferences? [19:31] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:31] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. 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[19:37] i mean i can still move accross the video [19:37] but error after error :/ [19:37] Edogaa: i was playing with mplayer on friday trying to use scroll on mice to change it to volume controlling. if you watch it in gui, could be useful [19:37] interesting [19:38] the errors show in the terminal if I run normal mplayer.... :\ [19:38] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:38] Edogaa: you compiled it yourself, SBo or aliens package? [19:38] preinstalled [19:39] shit. its preinstalled, i forgot. [19:39] I haven't updated my system if any updates are necessary yet too btw [19:39] 13.1? [19:39] Yes [19:39] well i run current except for kde [19:39] Ah [19:39] dont know if mplayer is updated in current [19:40] Hmm [19:40] BVX (b@boringvx.stalker.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:41] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.176.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:43] Does slack have KDE4.5? [19:44] Edogaa: -current [19:44] Ah, kk [19:44] just making sure [19:44] EuroTrash (~rtrsh@82-169-3-152.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:45] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:45] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) joined ##slackware. [19:46] i need to figure out how to make a slackbuild for wxwidget 2.9.1 :/ [19:49] Is wxWidgets this link? http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/wxX11/ [19:49] Edogaa: like these http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/wxPython/ or [19:49] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/wxGTK/ [19:49] no. [19:49] 2.9 [19:49] not 2.8 [19:50] the builds are not read only [19:50] Just change the version number in the SlackBuild. [19:50] huh [19:51] so i can just use the same slackbuild [19:51] change the vers number [19:51] then throw in the tar.gz i got from wxwidget 2.9? [19:51] 80% of the time yes [19:51] correct. 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