[00:00] diabolix: abulotively [00:00] absoltively [00:00] posolutely. [00:00] posi* [00:00] diabolix: any reason you didn't go linode route? [00:00] ah. [00:00] absotively and posilutely [00:00] (my spelink [00:01] Dominian, I was gonna go with BSD, actually. [00:01] nlhub: then there's Jengofet's son; he assumes his dad's name against the twins [00:01] MLanden: [00:01] plus, they're cheaper. [00:01] barely :P [00:01] PurpleSmurf: right [00:01] they do look good though [00:02] MLanden: at the end of the final act, we do see the "ravages" of 40 years on Vader [00:02] Dominian, right, but they gave no indication that this was going to be a temporary password. I'm rather pissed, since I use this password for multiple services. [00:02] weoo twenty, after getting the lifesuit [00:03] diabolix: get in the habit of changing passwords every 3-6 months anyway [00:03] PurpleSmurf: "ravages" would truly be putting it lightly [00:03] diabolix: well, naybe their internal passwd-chg page is better (https) [00:03] ml4711: of course [00:03] MLanden: [00:03] PurpleSmurf, I was using an https form to sign up. [00:03] eviljames: So is my every month, month-in-a-half too much? :P [00:03] but the use of a good actor helps [00:03] diabolix: well they messed up [00:03] fire|bird: heh, nothing wrong with an aggressive schedule [00:04] fire|bird: what are you doin? [00:04] Nick change: suid0 -> Tonho_da_Lua [00:04] eviljames: nope, not at all. :) 35 character passwords no less. :P except things that won't allow a pass that high. [00:04] MLanden: did you find B5 online yet? [00:04] PurpleSmurf: My password changing schedule. :) [00:04] ah [00:04] fire|bird: OTP would be beter [00:05] Ah great, now my router stopped broadcasting again. :/ [00:05] fire|bird: or just use proper 3 [:class:] chars, 2 char each [00:05] from each [00:05] PurpleSmurf: B5? [00:05] babylon five [00:06] that was the scifi show of the 90s [00:06] I know...no [00:06] google cideo has em or the tube [00:06] vid* [00:07] Strawcynski really did dream up an excellent universe in that and I really should send him a belated thank you. [00:08] MLanden: have you discerned the Star wars' spiritual component yet? [00:09] not only based on a fairy tale but more. [00:09] why do none of these vps companies feel like someone I would wan't to buy something from? [00:09] bc you know what you want and need in a service? [00:09] the good force vs bad force? [00:09] MLanden: that and more [00:10] dios_mio (i=test@88.236.176.108) left irc: "HERE WE IN SANTA FE AND NONE THE WISER" [00:10] diabolix: maybe your gut instinct is on the money? [00:10] and keep looking [00:10] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) joined ##slackware. [00:11] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] w000 [00:12] Hey foureyes779 [00:12] dios_mio (n=test@88.236.176.108) joined ##slackware. [00:12] fire|bird: howdy [00:12] how to change the WM again? [00:12] well, I already paid for a month, and promptly cancelled it. There was no link to get to the management page either. I thought when you signed up for a VPS you got some sort of web form where ou could set it up, reboot it, and whatever. [00:12] PurpleSmurf: never gave it much mind..though I do see elements of tatvas [00:12] tatvas? [00:12] fire|bird: looking foreward to trying the 64bit version of Slack [00:12] diabolix: if they wont refund then sue in small claims for breach of service. [00:13] foureyes779: same here, my lappy is 64 bit, but windows and imaging that windows drive stands in my way. :P [00:13] Currently running PCBSD on my computer soon [00:13] PurpleSmurf, I honestly don't care about the 10 bucks, I just wan't to move on and find something worth paying for. [00:13] like a brick wall no less. [00:13] diabolix: plus, there is an thing in law about canceling contracts within 3 days that you can use to our benefit [00:13] ok [00:14] but PCBSD doesnt have a 64Bit version of Wine, which is some of my favorite software [00:14] dios_mio: xwmconfig or manually edit right file [00:15] PurpleSmurf: hindu meditations [00:15] k [00:16] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:17] PurpleSmurf: http://www.yodajeff.com/pages/hinduism/ [00:17] fire|bird: playing around with Pentoo liveCD a bit [00:17] ty [00:17] foureyes779: cool, Pentoo? [00:17] yeah, they recently came up with a new version [00:18] foureyes779: I had never heard of Pentoo before. :P [00:18] it is a pentesting livecd, based on Gentoo [00:20] Nick change: Tonho_da_Lua -> suid0 [00:20] bakednoodle (n=bakednoo@207.233.110.67) left irc: " HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)" [00:20] fire|bird: cant wait to get Slack back on my system [00:21] foureyes779: good to hear. :) [00:21] once you go slack you never go back? [00:21] heh [00:21] sure seems that way [00:22] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [00:22] hba (n=hba@189.188.140.123) left irc: "leaving" [00:22] anyone heard how Sandman1 has been doing ? [00:23] or, even heard FROM him at all ? [00:23] the Administrator is back trying to crack vsftp [00:24] quasar: or once you go slack you may go back, but quickly return again [00:25] I always seem to find my way back here.... [00:25] brb [00:25] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [00:25] damn, a make i did today wrote files to / [00:25] .o and bins [00:25] dios2 (n=freelove@88.236.176.108) joined ##slackware. [00:26] Quiznos: mind if I ask you a (probably easy) question about C? [00:26] sure [00:26] root__ (i=0@201.10.69.136) joined ##slackware. [00:27] they fixed that MS ad btw [00:27] dios2 (n=freelove@88.236.176.108) left irc: Client Quit [00:27] hey vin [00:27] the one with the white guys face over the black guys [00:27] thanks.. without using limits, is it possible to tell how many bits are in a byte? [00:27] sup [00:27] quasar: trick question? thought it was 8... [00:27] Quiznos: yea? [00:27] that's minimum [00:28] or are you just saying hi? [00:28] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [00:28] quasar even on the old 36bit boxes, a byte has always been 8bits; Holerith was 5, then expanded to americanese then ascii [00:28] omg i have to leave now [00:28] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "vast is the sea we live in. be a pirate and enjoy as much of it as you can" [00:28] hihi [00:28] haha oh hihi [00:28] fire|bird: you see that MS ad earlier with poland and US? [00:28] yeah [00:28] they fixed it heh [00:28] lol [00:28] some cellphones run 16-bit per byte too.. was just wondering if it was possible to tell :) [00:28] quasar it's a given. a byte is always 8bits [00:29] i bet it got quite a bit of buzz on the interwebs [00:29] hmm; that's gotta be a utf entity [00:29] utf2 perhaps [00:29] a 16bit byte? wth [00:29] if one cant use stdio fread/fwrite()'s family then ... [00:30] antiwire no; that would be (as plan9 calls em) a rune [00:30] diabolix (n=jsoyke@75-139-117-053.dhcp.mant.nc.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [00:30] a utf entity [00:30] 16byte utf is iyf2 iinm [00:30] utf2 [00:30] quasar questions? [00:31] hm? nah, was just wondering the possibility because of exercise 2-1.. was planning on doing it without limits but if you can't tell how many bits per byte according to the compiler then I'll probably just do it the wuss way [00:32] no no, dont give up; be fancy. heh [00:32] from a standards point of view, how does a 16bit byte work in memory? [00:32] what is 2-1? [00:32] i'm confused [00:32] antiwire how is it placed? [00:33] i think it's order-on-cpu dependent [00:33] le or el [00:33] Write a program to determine the ranges of char , short , int , and long variables, both signed and unsigned , by printing appropriate values from standard headers and by direct computation. Harder if you compute them: determine the ranges of the various floating-point types. [00:33] le or be [00:33] as far as I was concerned, a byte was 8bits [00:33] it is [00:33] always is [00:33] dios_mio (n=test@88.236.176.108) left irc: "leaving" [00:33] even on boxes that have multibyte cells [00:34] like ibm mainframe's 36bit [00:34] 70s [00:34] quasar well the cheating answer would be to find the float header and the limits.h and printf :) [00:35] is it me, or is slackware missing libdvdnav? [00:35] yeah but I've found that if I cheat I dont really learn it.. and considering my habits from a week ago, I'd rather relearn lol [00:35] with the 4.1.3 release of libdvdread libdvdnav was split off [00:35] root__ (i=0@201.10.69.136) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [00:35] macavity found in old dist versions [00:36] that is, the first release of libdvdnav was called 4.1.3 too [00:36] quasar then make each a typed var, and ... the rest is for you to figer :) [00:36] char, int, short, float, double [00:36] and long [00:37] macavity: I have both from SBo [00:37] I did it like that and cheated by specifying that 1 byte = 8 bits then calculated out 2^(sizeof * 8) .. so it's already done.. but for portability it could esspload ! [00:37] dvdread is stock though [00:37] in -current [00:37] -1 [00:38] quasar should i give you an answer? [00:38] for the exercise or finding the number of bits in a byte? lol [00:38] dvdplay and dvdnav from SBo, dvd read from -current [00:38] Rat409 (n=me@205.209.66.178) joined ##slackware. [00:38] well has 2-1; that's harder but not impossible (use logical operations) [00:39] lol are you still debating how many bits are in a byte? [00:39] seriously. [00:39] i'm still confused about that [00:39] int n=0; wholevarX=0; x--; while( x) { x>>1; n++; } [00:40] i think the last 10-bits-per-byte system went out of commision some time in the 80s [00:40] oops [00:40] Action: foureyes779 doesnt get it [00:40] int n=0; wholevarX=0; x--; while( x) { x>>=1; n++; } [00:40] lol it's 8 [00:40] i dont think it's a trick question [00:40] and they were probably already ancient back then [00:40] ViN86: i thought it was just me... [00:40] foureyes779 dont get what? [00:41] antiwire: feel like im taking crazy pills [00:41] and that function will work for any whole var to count number of bits [00:41] Quiznos: any of it....ya lost me several screens ago [00:41] foureyes779 ok ask a question [00:41] very nice, thanks :D [00:41] you get the algo? [00:41] To anyone paying attention; is a byte 8 bits or not? [00:41] when is the 64 bit version of Slack going to be available ? [00:41] yes or no [00:41] you get why >> works to count? [00:41] antiwire: yes [00:41] it is [00:41] only part I dont get is the x>>=1 [00:42] ok then. [00:42] quasar ok. >> (shift value right 1 bit, and assign back to left hand side var. [00:42] oops; that's for >>= operator [00:42] foureyes779: when slackware 13 gets released, roumer has it that slackware64 13 will be released too [00:42] >> doesnt assign [00:43] macavity: tnx, looking forward to it [00:43] foureyes779: but since we are already at 13rc2update7 you can just go -current now and update with slackpkg [00:43] quasar you know asm? [00:43] negative [00:43] k [00:43] macavity: currently running PCBSD, but dont care for the PBI pkg system too much [00:43] learn it; higher level languages become easier [00:43] any idea on ETA of slack13 and official 64-bit? [00:44] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:44] When It Is Ready(TM) [00:44] ViN86 patv was here last night; no info. [00:44] ... as always [00:44] ViN86 RSN [00:44] bah thats a good idea [00:44] but rc2 is always a good sign of "probably before christmas" ;-) [00:44] so slackpkg probably wouldnt work for me [00:44] cause if you set a date too close, there's too much pressure [00:44] and if it's too far away, ppl lose interest [00:44] its a tricky game [00:44] ViN86 watch the frquency of updates in changelog [00:44] foureyes779: slackpkg is nice [00:45] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) joined ##slackware. [00:45] Quiznos: look for them winding down you mean, right? [00:45] yes [00:45] foureyes779: it doesnt attempt to resolve dependencies or any other crap.. it just does what you tell it :P [00:45] slightly related question, Quiznos, if x was not a long int you shift x--; once, doesn't it become positive? [00:45] the frequency of updates is 1.21jigawatts [00:45] nice [00:46] velusip the 2-1 exercise quasar is doing is from C white book, ansi edition; the question says "for signed and unsigned" [00:46] antiwire: do i have to be going 88 mph? [00:46] rumour even has it that we will get to at least rc2update8 before 13 is declared [00:46] aye, I understand that the solution works for both, but doesn't the signed become positive after the first shift? [00:46] velusip x=(x=0)-- would produce `-1' for signed vars [00:46] it should [00:46] isn't "int n=0; wholevarX=0; x--; while( x) { x>>=1; n++; }" also implementation dependant? [00:46] yes [00:47] a `bare Type' should defualt to signed [00:47] ie, int x [00:47] g++ would require more explicit types declarations [00:48] since wicd-1.6.2.1 just got released, and it fixes stuff that was biting slackware users too [00:48] cools. I'm just a stickler for assertion testing I'd make sure of that sign change just to be a nerd. [00:48] XD [00:48] velusip good points. [00:48] mac, what're the fix highlights? [00:48] IMO being too independent is a headache for user-coders of compilers they dont write themselves [00:49] how about you start with the var = 1; then you shift left, each time AND'ing the new value with the old. As soon as the result is 0; then you know youve shifted all the bits away [00:49] also IMO, very user should write their own compiler for their own box [00:49] SiegeX pondering [00:49] I will... eventually... but first I gotta learn to write ! [00:49] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:49] "this time *really* fix the hidden essid problem" and "fix rare linksys problem that double posts the essid" [00:49] mancha: ^^ [00:49] is there an implementation that sets '1' as other than 'n' amount of 0's followed by a 1? [00:49] SiegeX << I think you may have started something terrible... now we hit the giant wall of best practice when the architecture is unknown... [00:50] so, x=1; while( x) { x=(x<<1) & x; } [00:50] Siege or just shift left until its zero? why and? [00:50] mancha: and i belive a frew translation fixes got into it too [00:50] wait; too fast :) [00:50] *few [00:50] macavity: blame linksys [00:50] seriously [00:50] one connundrum at a time!!! [00:50] lol [00:50] rofl [00:50] damn this is getting fast [00:50] doesnt matter.. wpa_supplicant could handle it.. wicd couldnt [00:50] now it can [00:50] but...wpa_supplicant can deal with hidden SSIDs even in a roaming situation [00:50] macavity, ah i see, it had problems with connecting to ssid's that didnt' broadcast? [00:50] yes [00:50] at least we both know that part, ok [00:51] SiegeX i dont get your question; rephrase? [00:51] ya true, the AND'ing is superfluous [00:51] aye [00:51] mancha: yup [00:51] mancha: and it desided that some linksys APs were hidden even if they were not [00:51] hi people [00:51] mancha: .. mine for instance :P [00:51] ah ok. i never quite understood that "security" measure anyways. but if it makes some people feel safer, so be it :> [00:52] hello Thom1 [00:52] Quiznos: well we know signed values can have different representations, 1's compliment, 2's compliment, sign/value etc. But I dont know of any implemtation that doesnt store the value '1' as 0000...00001 [00:52] i i know there is an algo based on xor's to count bits [00:52] do you? [00:52] y0 Thom1 [00:52] this sounds mean but there is really no such thing as a hidden SSID, it's impossible [00:52] 802.11 does not allow it, period [00:52] mancha: it is *not* a secrity measure :P [00:52] mac, some people think it is though....they see "hidden ssid" and they think they're improving their security [00:52] SiegeX from my studies, long ago and since forgotten, those are the only implementations used in computing [00:53] antiwire: 802.11 defines a bit flag that states whatever the ESSID should be shown in clients or not [00:53] 1s, 2s, signed. [00:53] hidden = safe right? ha [00:53] antiwire: some idiotic wifi cards with propietary drivers dont even report those APs to the OS [00:53] lemme ask #c, those guys know all sort of odd factoids [00:53] ok [00:53] no matter what you you set, hidden SSID or not, the clients send the SSID during association. there is nothing you can do [00:54] the SSID will be seen [00:54] yes [00:54] exactly [00:54] unless youre some kind of magicman [00:54] the "hide SSID" option only applies to *beacons* [00:54] not associations [00:55] mac, any other big bugs that you know of on wicd? [00:55] mancha: nope [00:55] mancha: with the fixes it works very well here [00:55] foureyes779 (n=theron@unaffiliated/foureyes779) left ##slackware. [00:55] ah ok. do you have a custom fw on the linksys or did you stick with stock? [00:55] does objdump sport disassemblage of .exe files? [00:56] wicd works great for me [00:56] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [00:56] although, i haven't been around any hidden networks recently [00:56] hey hippy [00:56] heh [00:56] since this is a wrt56g v7 i have no other option than to stick with the propietary VxWorks OS on it [00:56] Nick change: Quiznos -> HipTobeFractal [00:56] kismet will find "ssid hidden" networks in a matter of minutes, sometimes seconds [00:56] i though openwrt had solved that issue...and was able to squash that fw [00:57] *thought [00:57] it has the worst possible configuration of lack-of-RAM and a crappy BCM wifi card [00:57] heh, I should have expected this: "my implementation stores the value '1' as 00110001." [00:57] thats what i get for single quoting 1 in #c [00:57] oh man, I forgot all about kismet... need to put that on my new netbook. [00:57] lol [00:57] SiegeX lol [00:57] quiznos here [00:57] SiegeX << nice [00:58] Nick change: HipTobeFractal -> Quiznos [00:58] that's too funi a literal answer [00:58] i might be misremembering and with v7 you might be sol, but i recall that initial (its vxworks, you're doomed) to have been fixed by openwrt [00:58] I am the proud owner of a wrt54gs v1 [00:59] 32MB ram 8MB flash [01:00] Action: macavity kisses mancha [01:00] thanks for making me look that up again! [01:00] i miss read this on WP the last time.. this is a v7 and not a v7.2 [01:01] n.n [01:01] figabo (n=figabo@189.186.33.45) joined ##slackware. [01:01] it has an Atheros AR2317 and 8MB RAM and 2MB Flash [01:01] quasar int n=0; while( (n+=(X>>=1))) ; [01:02] time to look that up on openwrt [01:02] Well there you ahve it. "C requires ints to be one's complement, two's complement or sign-and-magnitude." [01:02] that means this is standard-safe code: http://codepad.org/USHEXXqI [01:02] SiegeX which C language? [01:02] there's at least 3 [01:02] im sure C99 [01:02] 4 [01:02] lol [01:02] 5 [01:03] krc, ansic, c99, gcc, et al. [01:03] I don't comprehend these words, I just know where the number go. [01:03] nods [01:03] YAY! [01:03] That 2MB flash pretty much screws you [01:03] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: "Command not found." [01:04] Florence, born Missouri, 112yo. [01:04] oldest daughter 91yo [01:04] wow [01:05] macavity, looks like you're in business if you want to be. and no kissing! (seems it was dd-wrt not openwrt that supported it) [01:05] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:06] apparently theres's a fw called vxworkskiller.bin or something like that to prepare it for the real fw hah [01:07] I picked up a Buffalo WHR-G300N just because it was the cheapest thing I could find that dd-wrt supports. It ends up it's a really nice little unit. [01:07] RALINK hardware. [01:07] hmm, maybe its not so safe: "Regarding E1< velusip: you have chosen wisely [01:07] Quiznos: Who's 112 years old? [01:08] a woman in Missouri [01:09] mancha: well.. it will be one seriously feature stripped install.. 8MB RAM is apparently on the edge [01:09] Quiznos: got it thanks...wow [01:09] mac, oops, i think i've misled you, re-reading this stuff it seems like it's no dice. sorry for the false hopes [01:09] i got a 5port hub today (yesterday), 10$us; comparable unit at walmart, ~35$ [01:09] MLanden yw [01:09] she's still lively too [01:10] i could take it appart and see how the RAM is attached :P [01:10] macavity can you add or swap out the ram? [01:10] i have a steady soldering hand, and if i brick it we were planning on getting an Asus WL-500g anyways [01:10] ram is soldered? [01:11] Quiznos: so i see [01:12] mac, interesting, and maybe swapping out the atheros pci-e for a bcm would put you in business. this is maybe the one time that its better to have bcm than atheros [01:12] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:12] no way [01:12] i want ath5k [01:12] all those fw projects are broadcom centric though [01:13] wow and bummer; 400# 8th grader dies during practice run at football scrimage [01:13] i can rebuild the kernel [01:13] kozandr (n=kozandr@81.95.131.133) joined ##slackware. [01:13] true enough, is ath5k mature yet? [01:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKOckpO1WA8&feature=related [01:13] i happen to have an Atheros mini pci card [01:14] yes [01:14] so madwifi will die soon i guess [01:14] yup [01:14] possible link tween sunscreen lotion and Alzhiemers [01:14] i hear that AP mode is very stable [01:15] two Celts given substantial .eu money to determine [01:15] does it support inj out of the box? [01:15] i dont remember who in here who used it for real.. but i seem to recall that it was a regular [01:15] inj? [01:15] injection [01:15] ah, injection [01:15] yes [01:16] that is why i have been looking all over for a mini pcie Atheros card to replace my annoying intel3945 [01:16] the 3495 is well-supported, no? [01:16] macavity: wait for 2.6.31 for AP mode [01:16] for real [01:16] is this in a thinkpad, perchance? [01:17] antiwire: or just merge wireless-testing [01:18] root__ (i=0@201.10.69.136) joined ##slackware. [01:18] mancha: nope.. my own homebrew Asus whitebox [01:18] mancha: i just didnt know any better when i bought it.. i figured that since everything else Intel was well supported, wifi would be too [01:18] find pci wireless card, those usually are just things to piggyback a pci-e on [01:18] alguem ja trabalho com o tomcat [01:19] I've been running wireless-testing kernel on my AP for quite some time. 2.6.31 will be better though. [01:19] pseudo-spanish? [01:19] rot-13 or portugese? [01:19] br-pt? [01:19] lol [01:19] rot13 [01:19] no no no [01:19] and the answer is, root__ ? [01:19] mancha: but i want to get rid of the last peice of propietary software in this box, and i want actually working injection [01:19] spanglish? [01:19] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@static-68-236-209-41.nwrk.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:19] has anyone played with "tomcat" is what i hypothesize [01:19] we have several Atheros PCI cards in the house [01:19] Nick change: AnonymousRednek -> nyRednek [01:20] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:20] mancha, 'travalho' looks more like some kind of "to work" [01:21] Action: hiptobecubic opens traduisons [01:21] root__ /list slack* [01:21] hiptobecubic it is [01:21] root__ por espanolish :) [01:21] "someone already working with tomcat" [01:21] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [01:21] Has anyone used the tomcat [01:21] hipto, that makes sense as in english travail is work or to work [01:21] root__ spanish `o' is not translated. [01:21] root__: http://www.slackware-brasil.com.br/web_site/ [01:21] mancha, and french [01:21] [01:21] Sorry I'm Brazilian [01:22] root__ never apoligise for your nationality or language skills [01:22] On this exciting note, i'll suggest everyone try out the only meaningful piece of software i've ever made [01:22] root__: ##slackware-br [01:22] root, we won't hold it against you :) [01:22] http://traduisons.googlecode.com [01:22] hot key it and blam-o. instant clipboard translations [01:22] lessee, he said pt-br; and the winer of that origin guess is ... [01:22] me yay!!! [01:23] hiptobecubic: sounds cool [01:23] woot [01:23] iGaucho (n=mark@72.8.75.142) joined ##slackware. [01:23] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [01:23] [01:23] Nobody saw it my problem [01:23] MLanden, I'd like say it is. But really it's just some fiddling with python and google translate [01:23] woot [01:23] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [01:23] root__ ask in ##Linux in pt-br [01:24] [01:24] wanted to know if someone already intal tomcat to work with hibernate [01:24] ok [01:24] You know.. i bet with the auto-detect tool, you could make a decent irc bot for these situations [01:25] slackware -current doesn't go through RC's does it? it just gets frozen at some point and that becomes stable? [01:25] root__ "does anyone have Intel's Tomcat working with hibernate?" [01:25] SiegeX, /topic [01:25] root__ c&p that for english question. [01:25] root__ in other channels [01:25] you're IRC'ing as UID 0 [01:25] that's not such a wonderful idea [01:25] ahh, apparently im wrong. Long ass topic though [01:26] root__: No one cares if you are from BR, we just have a communication issue. It is nothing personal [01:26] not get help through other channels [01:26] ok [01:27] ok [01:27] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:27] root__ are you logged on as root? [01:27] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [01:27] root__: I do not have experience with tomcat. I do not know if other people in ##slackware have experience with tomcat. [01:27] sorry. [01:28] If you have a little patience we will understand [01:28] root__ no one here uses Tomcat [01:28] arenics (n=arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:28] Senator Kennedy just passed away [01:28] ty quasar [01:28] I mentioned earlier that xfce4-power-manager is several versions behind. After having played with it all day, I'd like to reassert that it should be updated. It has many new, nice features. [01:28] CBS has the news [01:28] root__: do not worry about patience. We just have a communication problem. We are not upset or mad [01:28] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:29] Like an OSD for screen brightness. [01:29] root__: :) [01:29] as well as a mouse controllable screen brightness plugin for the panel [01:29] quasar: link to that? [01:29] oh its on cbs... [01:29] iGaucho (n=mark@72.8.75.142) left ##slackware. [01:29] ViN86: dunno if it's on CBS.. I just heard it on the radio [01:29] And the ability to 'inhibit' the computer from sleeping [01:30] great, now i will have to deal with that crap, being how i live in boston and what not [01:30] quasar cbs tv [01:30] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:30] ViN86 hermitise yerself :) [01:30] [01:30] okay, sorry [01:30] and he will be celebrated, despite the fact he was a murderer [01:30] nods [01:30] sickening [01:31] root__: np [01:31] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:31] idk why we cant call people horrible after they die... [01:31] ViN86 back in the early 80s i read a HUGE report regarding that incident at the bridge [01:31] ViN86 seemd to settle the issue for me [01:31] ViN86: I do [01:31] Quiznos: yea, wasnt she pregnant with his kid? [01:31] dont know [01:31] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) left irc: "Leaving" [01:31] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:31] he left the scene and dint call for help until hours later [01:31] i think she was... that's convenient that his child with a woman besides him wife dies... [01:31] nods [01:31] Quiznos: lol yea cause he did it [01:32] of course [01:32] I went on a 10 mile mountain bike ride today [01:32] he was driving [01:32] yay [01:32] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:32] wasn't too long ago his sister Eunice Kennedy Shriver died [01:33] days ago [01:33] jawix (n=jawix@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [01:33] I know a girl named Eunice, she is 24, she wants to kill her parents [01:33] marry her [01:34] she'll be fun [01:34] sounds stable [01:34] ejal_ (n=ejal@DSL217-132-39-185.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. [01:34] MLanden: yea he didnt go to the funeral... [01:34] ViN86: heard blips time and again over the summer that he wasn't doin' good [01:34] i just hope it doesnt turn into the MJ fiasco again [01:35] omg i ant take another one of those [01:35] well yea he had a brain tumor or cancer or something [01:35] something wrong in the head [01:35] ViN86: it'll be worse than mj [01:35] Rat409: ill burn my tv [01:35] antiwire: do you know a lot about network infra structure equipment in general? [01:35] me too [01:35] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:36] TK dead 77yo, brain cancer [01:36] macavity: I like to think I do, in general ;) [01:36] http://www.cnn.com/?eref=igoogle_cnn [01:36] yea its on top of CNN page [01:36] what is? [01:37] ted kennedy is dead [01:37] nods [01:37] thats what it says haha [01:37] antiwire: i am having a hard time communicate what i am thinking about, so correct me if i go out on a limb [01:37] very blunt [01:37] ok [01:37] 1 left....Jean Kennedy Smith [01:37] what does she do? [01:37] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [01:37] antiwire: i would like to have a router/switch that is actually a PC.. but in standard rack format, and with, say 32 ports [01:37] mmm 32 [01:38] give me a mental woody [01:38] chris brown hits a woman and doesnt even go to jail [01:38] antiwire: the point being that i would like it to work like a giant switch, but be able to install snort on it to drop packages as specified [01:38] his punishment is harsh tho [01:38] macavity: i follow [01:38] macavity: [01:38] oops [01:38] Quiznos: last sibling of Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. [01:38] Quiznos: it is? he hit a woman [01:38] antiwire: does this kind of thing mean "big bucks Cisco" or "build it yourself nimrod!" [01:39] macavity: you could build it yourself but it won't fit in a 1U [01:39] ViN86 judge was harsh; he and girl are apparently still in touch which judge doesnt like [01:39] MLanden ok [01:39] 2U is tollerable [01:39] macavity: you would use quad port intel cards [01:39] then use linux bridging [01:39] michael vick does 2 years and chris brown doesnt step foot in a prison? idk... [01:39] i mean, burress is goin to do 2 years for shooting himself lol [01:39] antiwire: so there is no off the self product like this? [01:39] I have a dual port intel card and it is awesome, e1000 based (not e1000e) [01:39] he got hard labor in virginia [01:40] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [01:40] i dont remember the difference on the e1000 and e1000e [01:40] i got two e1000 GT last time i bough a server [01:40] macavity: the only difference is that a cisco switch runs proprietary cisco OS and the CPU is designed specifically for routing/switching [01:40] btw, the quiznos by me went out of business a while back and ive been very upset ever since :( [01:40] *build [01:40] ViN86 sowwee :) [01:41] macavity: the e100e is a PCI-E card and the e1000 is a PCI card [01:41] open it back up for me! [01:41] antiwire: dooh :P [01:41] cant [01:41] damn [01:41] e1000e** [01:41] typo [01:41] so i am forced to live a toast-less life :( [01:41] nods [01:41] Action: ViN86 dies a little inside [01:41] or make your own [01:41] antiwire: and there is no chance in hell of getting a GNU/Linux distro onto a cisco product? [01:41] macavity: if you got the $$, i would look at the PXI platform [01:41] SiegeX: i dont [01:42] Quiznos primo meats can not be replicated at home [01:42] then don't look there =) [01:42] SiegeX: i *always* want everything for next to nothing ;-) [01:42] sure they can [01:42] the controller alone is about $4k [01:42] not by me they cant lol [01:42] macavity: I don't know about that. As far as I know, you must run Cisco IOS on a Cisco device [01:42] heh [01:42] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Client Quit [01:42] youre talking to the guy who made rice and black beans from a box, then ate it on a flour tortilla with hot sauce for dinner [01:42] not exactly a culinary genius... [01:42] i've done that [01:43] macavity: they are flash based units and iirc the flash images are signed [01:43] yea it was delicious lol [01:43] nods [01:43] 32 nic's isnt going to be cheap no matter which way you slice it though [01:43] brb [01:43] antiwire: arg.. Tivoization :-/ [01:43] SiegeX: depends on the speed haha [01:43] i want my freedom to run my own software on the hardware i buy!!! [01:43] SiegeX: using quad intel cards it's not that bad really. This type of situation would have a budget [01:43] how much do they go for? [01:44] for some 10/100's or whatever [01:44] i can do with a little less [01:44] still would have to have an 8 slot pci mobo [01:44] I run a dual intel e1000 based card (dual gigabit) on my home server. it was about 60 bucks 2 years ago [01:44] 8/slot pci/pci slot [01:44] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [01:44] say 16x100Mbit and 2x1000Mbit for starters [01:44] SiegeX: yes,the only limiting factor is the motherboard [01:45] antiwire: ah, then 8x100mbit cards cant be *insanely* expensive [01:45] these days it wouldn't be too bad [01:45] antiwire: and low profile pci fits in 2U doesnt it? [01:45] or are we up to 3 or 4? [01:45] SiegeX: PCI-X? not PCI-e right? [01:45] the dual GB card I have can accept a 2u bracket or a normal ATX bracket [01:46] same card [01:46] or just PCI? [01:46] nice [01:46] my dual GB card is 64bit but is also 32bit compat [01:46] it works in either slot [01:46] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "zzzz" [01:46] ViN86: no PXI is a platform for modular instruments that uses the PCI bus [01:46] . [01:46] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-61.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [01:46] where did you say PXI? [01:46] so, what kind of CPU power does one need when the network is at load if snort has some pretty agressive analyzation settings? [01:47] in the 16x100 + 2x1000 case? [01:47] macavity: to be honest, I haven't tried anything like that yet [01:47] ViN86: "macavity: if you got the $$, i would look at the PXI platform" [01:47] I'd want at least a P4 3ghz [01:47] theres PCI, PCI-X, PCI-e [01:47] min [01:47] thought that was the sentence you were referring to [01:47] in that I meant PCI-X and not PXI [01:47] SiegeX: oh i was referring to the "8/solt pci/pci slot" [01:47] this is why Cisco is such a winner, the CPU is designed for this stuff and the OS is written around it [01:47] antiwire: oh, i was thinking dual Phenom Quad Core :P [01:48] found this for $10 lol http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127102 [01:48] that should be fine hahaha [01:48] just PCI [01:48] ok, in that case i am less worried [01:48] oh, right.. Intel cards does a shit load of the work in hardware, right? [01:48] thir NICs that is [01:48] *their [01:48] macavity: if you are going to be logging full packets with snort into a DB you want to assess your disk IO too [01:49] macavity: yeah, the intel cards can offload [01:49] i am not going to log [01:49] because im in silicon valley we have this place called 'Wierd Stuff' that basically buys up all the local tech companies old shit. You can get NIC's for like $2.50 [01:49] cisco switches, concentrators all sorts of geeky crap [01:49] i am going to set up a transparent fire-and-forget solution [01:49] lol [01:49] macavity: they can offload as well as crypt on their own [01:49] nice [01:49] off to bed, later all [01:50] night ViN86 [01:50] just the other day I had to pick up an Adaptec 2940 Narrow SCSI card for some old ass tape drive they wanted me to pull data off of [01:50] the setup will face on port to the ADSL line, and connect the two servers to the rest of the LAN [01:50] fire|bird: have a good one [01:50] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-EIGHTY-THREE.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [01:50] ejal (n=ejal@CBL217-132-91-226.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:50] hit up Wierd stuff, they have like 10 for $15ea [01:50] htmlol_ (n=take@ool-457a3d2d.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [01:50] so, i would rather have that single poing of attack be totally transparent [01:50] not sure how much that badboy went for in its heyday but over $100 i would guess [01:50] SO this unit will be the main router as well as a main switch? [01:50] So* [01:50] SiegeX: what was the transfer speed on the tape drive? [01:50] yep [01:51] kozandr (n=kozandr@81.95.131.133) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:51] I think it will be fine as long as you can find a motherboard that is decent enough to handle that much PCI IO [01:51] MLanden: to be honest with you I can't tell ya. I just got the damn thing working yesterday. Its an HP Surestore DAT8 if that helps =) [01:51] Hi [01:51] yes.. that probably means Intel chipset [01:51] i was super surprised to see they had tapes 12 years ago that held 8GB [01:51] .. which means Intel CPU too [01:52] hear ya SiegeX [01:52] so an Intel Qsomething should keep me flying [01:52] macavity: I can say this; my laptop is a core duo 1.83 (not core *2* duo). it has gigabit ethernet and my server does too. The laptop will saturate itself in disk IO long before it maxes out the gigabit networking [01:52] hmmm...3.6 GB/hour transfer rate [01:52] htmlol (n=take@ool-457a3d2d.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:52] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-244-17.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:53] antiwire: naturally :-) [01:53] antiwire: ~125MB/s disk i/o == raid-something [01:53] yeah exactly [01:53] macavity: i think what you want is attainable but it will require a solid motherboard and NICs [01:54] yes.. it is probably the thing about finding a mother board that and a case that is going to be the biggest challenge [01:54] It would be much much cheaper if you just get a dual-nic PC and then use all those dlink/linksys 4/8 port routers/switches [01:54] then the router gets a small SSD for the OS [01:55] i would like to keep out of everyones head that it is actually a real computer [01:55] .. and hide the documentation in the safe [01:55] SiegeX: that would be more cost effective but lack the functionality of a single system that is in control of the bridge/switch [01:55] which is evidently what I do. 1 Nic to the cable modem, 1 Nic to the 8 port switch. Iptables between the interfaces with some 'tc' thrown in the mix [01:56] ya, i cant do the VLAN stuff (least I dont think so) [01:56] SiegeX: there is valid case to be made there [01:56] it depends on how much control is required over the switch interface [01:56] uhm, i would really really like to treat this network as if every node was a member of al qaeda [01:57] standeh (n=lkjdlkja@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [01:57] then you want granular control [01:57] when did we hit rc2? [01:57] centralized switch control [01:57] that is, have snort drop anything that looks suspecius [01:57] standeh: fetch the ChangeLog and see [01:57] standeh: we are at rc2update7 now [01:57] standeh: update8 comming any moment [01:58] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:58] August 6th [01:58] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:58] thanks [01:58] fedgov has a twitter account lol [01:58] macavity: if you need to treat each node as hostile you want exactly what you describe; granular control over each switch port. you can pay for a high end Cisco switch or build a switch using Linux bridging [01:59] PurpleSmurf: keeps the house happy....:D [01:59] heh [01:59] Do a cost analysis over the Cisco product and a Linux PC solution and base it off of controlability [01:59] MLanden: "how do you know a potician is lying to you?" [01:59] antiwire: i figure the last option is going to be cheeper.. if nothing else, then in times of hours, as i have *no* clue about cisco stuff [01:59] politician [01:59] antiwire: and if i can help it, it stays that way ;-) [01:59] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-158-4-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [02:00] PurpleSmurf: his lips are moving? [02:00] macavity: well all know that the Linux PC will supply huge amounts of control but at the cost of support [02:00] so your trade off is support:function [02:00] i dont need no stinking support :P [02:00] hahaha [02:01] wifou (i=564691a0@gateway/web/freenode/x-ptsiexlzmbytzfrc) joined ##slackware. [02:01] the place has NO clue in general [02:01] wifou (i=564691a0@gateway/web/freenode/x-ptsiexlzmbytzfrc) left irc: Client Quit [02:01] and as i said, it is probably going to be a fire-and-forget mission [02:01] macavity: I'd do a small scale Linux bridging test using whatever hardware you have available. [02:01] after you try that, you will have a better idea of the scaling issue [02:02] i have a tri-NICed machine handy [02:02] two e1000GT and one e100 [02:02] PurpleSmurf: Something other than his nose is growing?...wait,that's how does he spend the tax money...:D [02:02] that would be a perfect test bed [02:03] MLanden: all correct!!! mine: it's talkin [02:03] the file server will get a raid10 and the print server will just be build out of $WHATEVER [02:03] try to shove whatever you can through that setup. create a ludicrous bandwidth situation on the test bed and see how it works [02:03] sweet..;) [02:04] yup [02:04] it is mainly snort i am worried about.. thats the only software i have not played with yet [02:04] snort will use up main CPU which will ultimately impact the PCI buss transfers [02:05] how much is can be guessed at by the tests [02:05] even on expensive intel chipsets? [02:05] i thought those didnt really use the CPU [02:05] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [02:05] eg, real DMA in hardware, etc [02:05] buy this 20port bad boy and just find the Cajun P550 chassis to go along with it and your set! http://www.weirdstuff.com/cgi-bin/item/11479 [02:05] if it is pci-e based the hit won't be as bad but with a normal PCI system you'll see a harder hit in the PCI buss [02:05] blah [02:06] SiegeX: dang. [02:06] look at that beast http://www.weirdstuff.com/cgi-bin/item/11479 [02:06] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:07] i cant run snort on that :P [02:07] lol [02:08] I've done snort in a inline setup; between a T1's ethernet side and the main corporate switch [02:08] damn.. that is actually cheep [02:08] the system I used for that inline setup was a crappy Celeron 533 with 512MB ram and two intel 10/100 nics [02:09] it held up fine for years until a capacitor on the system popped [02:09] how fast is a T1? [02:09] your typical T1 ~1.5 [02:09] mbit? [02:09] yeah [02:09] lol [02:10] a modern cell phone can snort that :P [02:10] lol [02:10] damn, goog wont reveal any gopher:// links [02:10] there are still gopher networks online?!? [02:11] thumbs (n=avenger@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [02:11] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [02:11] yep [02:11] >_< [02:11] i was lynx'ing them last week [02:11] who else can i query? [02:11] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:12] yahoo is older than goog, right? [02:12] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@86-42-158-4-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:12] PurpleSmurf: Yes [02:12] hmm damn. I was thinking about replacing my mid-tower that runs slack with a mini-ITX but man, look at the prices for their 1U pizzabox servers [02:12] $140 for a dual 3Gz xeon w/2GB mem. http://www.weirdstuff.com/cgi-bin/item/62008 [02:13] not sure how loud those puppies are though [02:13] PurpleSmurf: http://quux.org:70/ [02:13] google hit [02:14] ty Rat409 [02:15] sure http://quux.org:70/Software/Gopher/servers [02:15] y0 Rat409 [02:15] SiegeX: that is supprisingly cheep [02:15] Rat409: `Access to this port is disabled for security reasons' [02:15] hey fire|bird [02:16] oh hmm [02:16] Rat409 elinks can hit that tho [02:16] fuck [02:16] how strange; must be Opera barfing on :70 [02:16] i threw out a whole STACK of 16-20MHZ Intel i386 chips half a year ago [02:17] topic (n=user@74-42-112-24.dr01.atmr.al.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:17] they go for $30 a peice! [02:17] damn now i wish wget could gopher!!! rofl [02:17] macavity bastard!!! your Geek membership card is revoked! [02:17] damn you man! [02:17] rofl [02:19] gopher://freeshell.org/1 [02:19] you must give help on AOL's 'tech talk' chat room for 1 year to receive your membership back! [02:20] this place is wild http://www.recycledgoods.com/ [02:20] do AOL chat rooms still exist? [02:22] wow lynx has a porpose after all [02:22] lol [02:22] mmm Veronica, how i've missed you [02:23] lol [02:23] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-udehnddujuahutvp) joined ##slackware. [02:23] Rat409 remember the naming scheme for gopher tools? [02:23] Archie and gang [02:23] lol [02:23] yup [02:23] lol [02:23] heh [02:24] Quiznos: porpose, huh? :) does it swim? [02:25] Action: SiegeX vaugly remembers gopher. that was back in the day of mosaic [02:25] Slaxxer (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:25] one word at a time, one link at a time; one key at a time. [02:25] no moosing around. [02:25] lol [02:25] http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/shows/detail3632.html [02:25] is this the same shiloh? [02:26] from slackware community? [02:27] i need this one: http://www.weirdstuff.com/cgi-bin/item/18002 :P [02:27] not a very good picture. Looks like as if somebody just busted ass next to him [02:28] Rat409 (n=me@205.209.66.178) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:28] sorry [02:28] if so im very supprised that theres no slackware distro for that phone [02:29] it appears that fedgov killed off their gopher server [02:31] macavity: you can get some crazy ass shit in their sealed bid consignment dealy. Like wtf are those piston-looking things here: http://images.weirdstuff.com/full/Bay1.jpg [02:32] looks like the beginnigs of a bad ass weapon [02:33] there is probably a flux capacitor lying around in one of those bins, i know it! [02:33] God i miss those kinds of bins [02:34] up in pennsy, i visited that hw place often [02:34] SiegeX: adapt it to power off beer..:D [02:34] never to late to pick up a big blue box with gold pins and cables: http://images.weirdstuff.com/full/Bay9.jpg [02:35] slow ass server.. [02:35] omg found a list of gopher servers!!! global list [02:35] Action: SiegeX is going to guess it's probably a power conditioner [02:35] there are still gopher servers? [02:35] yep; lots [02:35] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [02:36] don't tell them about torrents, their heads will asplode [02:36] lol [02:36] now i know why i love slack ... in my debian lenny box, mtr depends on libgtk2.0 [02:37] SiegeX can you imagine grabbing BIG riaa files via gopher? rofl [02:37] heh, probably the most low key way evar [02:37] fervent nod [02:37] Action: SiegeX wonders if the RIAA trolls the newsgroups [02:37] jawix: in your lenny box, mtr is actually a gui [02:38] Quiznos: that would be one hair pulling experience [02:38] i dont need a gui for mtr [02:38] SiegeX: im sure they do. how do they track the downloads though, if your usenet provider doesn't log, and lets you use https? [02:38] MLanden would be schweet tho [02:38] unfortunately its including an X gui [02:39] jawix: 'make' is your answer then, since the debian maintainer for MTR would disagree with you :P [02:39] they trolls boneless, file by file [02:39] wtf is 'boneless' supposed to mean anyways [02:39] omgomgomg i'm having a DOS3.3 flashback!!! deja vu [02:39] all over again [02:39] draeath: if that's the case, 7th floor NSA room in the AT&T building here in San Franciso is about the only way I see it =) [02:39] a.b.boneless? [02:39] actually, slack is the answer. iŽm just too lazy to install it on this sun server [02:39] lynx is green on black; arrow keying through gopher directories [02:39] omgomgomg [02:39] I invite the NSA to break my multi-gigabyte SSL streams :P [02:40] how long a passwd? [02:40] and how many char classes in passwd? [02:40] SSL... its a public key system [02:40] answer the questions! [02:40] heh [02:40] omg found c.o.l.a. on gopher and it's current! [02:40] lol [02:41] Quiznos: i think a little less energy would be a good thing right now :P [02:41] what is that, comp.os.linux.... whats the a? [02:41] lol NO; i'm having a flashback deja vu and I wanna keep it going [02:41] oh, -a. [02:42] Quiznos: http://www.freedos.org/ try not to overdose [02:42] lol yeanods [02:42] Action: lf4 shoots Quiznos with a tranquilizer. [02:42] I forget where I saw it, but apparently there is some little nondescript concrete building on the shore of Monterey Bay which is where a large majority of the international fiber comes into. Good place to do a bit of international snooping [02:42] phew; tat's nice [02:42] i think it was on Nova [02:42] lol [02:42] pls sir, may i have another? [02:43] Action: lf4 shoots Quiznos with a dart. [02:43] i have httpd and ftpd running on my Archive/ -- what if i setup gopher -> Archive/ too? [02:43] sigh; tha's nice [02:43] lol [02:43] gopher :)) [02:43] gopher:// [02:43] Quiznos: tweakin' yet? [02:43] gettin there [02:43] heh [02:43] sweet..:P [02:43] lol [02:43] why does the new slackware logo look retarded? [02:44] the old one looks much better [02:44] and i'm outta coffe too [02:44] Quiznos: don't forget to let me finger you while your at it =) [02:44] matsuura: flip it upside down [02:44] what slackware logo? you mean the tux bootup badge?? [02:44] heh... gopher is for speed junkies.. real men use TCP over pigeon carrier net [02:44] woah... I'm not even sure I want to know what I came back to o.O [02:44] MLanden: yeah, that's cool, but it still looks silly [02:44] SiegeX o yea; and MOTD [02:44] MLanden: what? I don't get it. is slackware.com not using this fancy new logo or something? [02:45] draeath: http://www.slackware.com/grfx/shared/slackware_ambigram_logo.png [02:45] macavity ONLY if you can name that acronym!!! [02:45] without cheating [02:45] That... my eyes are bleeding now [02:45] ambigrams suck [02:45] macavity you're cheating!!! too long [02:45] draeath: well, that one does, yeah [02:45] >_> [02:45] CPTP/IP [02:45] matsuura: slackware or linux? the linux logo was changed for this release to reflect tazmanian devil [02:46] the slackware one [02:46] looks like someone let a bull loose in a print shop :/ [02:46] CPTPIP [02:46] alisonken1noc: http://www.slackware.com/grfx/shared/slackware_ambigram_logo.png [02:46] draeath: lol. agreed [02:46] xD [02:46] and the linux logo looks quite stupid as well [02:46] well, worse than tux did anyways [02:46] just a penguin [02:46] o_o [02:46] ah - got it. there was a note about it a year or two ago. someone created a logo that would say "slackware" when read either right-side up or upside down [02:46] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [02:47] I hate mascot-ish logos. Like the openbsd fish - HATE! The old freebsd daemon - RAGE! [02:47] I like symbols :) [02:48] good night [02:48] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [02:48] anyone know where i could get a -current 64-bit slackware iso? [02:49] you could use alienBOB's script and make it yourself [02:49] quasar, i'm on windows atm [02:49] google man [02:49] slackware.no (unofficial mirror) has one, I believe.. dunno though, never used it [02:49] Slaxxer, i gave a few tries so far [02:50] quasar, ah that rings a bell [02:50] matsuura, i have a l-shirt with this logo [02:50] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:50] you could still download the files and burn them.. just specify the boot image [02:50] powtrix: links? [02:50] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89AF4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:50] (matsuura) alisonken1noc: http://www.slackware.com/grfx/shared/slackware_ambigram_logo.png [02:50] quasar, i suppose so, but this leaves less room for me to make any errors [02:50] y0 slackytude [02:50] thanks [02:51] powtrix: got it [02:51] three darts is too many. [02:51] leaves more room for other bad stuff to happen :) [02:52] i dont remember where i bought it [02:52] morning [02:52] y0 fire|bird [02:52] slackytude: how goes? [02:53] http://www.cafepress.com/volkerdi.293676134 [02:53] this one :) [02:53] powtrix: oh, I thought you were talking about something else, now that I re-read.. >_> [02:53] matsuura: read the slackware news page (http://www.slackare.com) entry on KDE4 in -current dtd 2008-08-13 for the reason of the ambigram logo [02:53] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:53] fire|bird, just got to work. still at my first coffee. so far, all is quiet [02:53] too quiet -_- [02:53] fire|bird, how about you? [02:54] time to buy one with "slackware64" logo [02:54] standeh: to be honest, I'd wait until after 5am CET (whatever time that is) .. that's when they rebuild the ISOs and there has been a few updates in the past week [02:54] hey, ##slackware :-) [02:54] slackytude: excellent, thanks. Opera 10 RC is working great so far. [02:54] hey slava_dp [02:54] hey slava_dp [02:54] quasar, yea there is a build for August 25 [02:54] stealth- (n=stealth@unaffiliated/stealth-) left ##slackware (" 'leaving channel'"). [02:54] slackytude: you're late for work. :P [02:54] quasar: I just rsync and burn my own :) [02:54] fire|bird, anything noteworty [02:54] lf4, yeah, but boss is on vacation [02:55] alisonken1noc: same here.. but he's wanting an ISO because he's lame or something /shrug [02:55] slackytude: Nah, not really, it's opera, it's working awesome. :) [02:55] lol oh nice [02:55] setting up a gopher server here [02:55] slackytude: we have abut 8 servers to setup for failovers here, and I now have 3 rows of racks that just finished getting power to them so I can start adding new servers [02:55] take care,slackers....talk with all later [02:55] gah, printer doesnt work [02:55] later MLanden, take care [02:56] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-168-56.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [02:56] slackytude: give it some coffee. :) [02:56] You aren't printing until your printing with caffeine. :D [02:56] http://distrowatch.com:80/?newsid=05609 [02:57] gah, just took some time apparantly, its working now [02:57] Action: slackytude goes back to coffee [02:57] Slaxxer: We watch the Changelog [02:58] Action: alisonken1noc already made a pot and started another cup [02:58] alisonken1noc, fun! [02:58] Slaxxer: that's old news. :) [02:58] not to quasor [02:58] Quiznos, goper server? you work for a museum or somesuch? [02:58] Slaxxer: they need to update the screenshot for 13RC2 - default now is kde4 [02:59] Zordrak_ (n=jaz@87-194-141-163.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [02:59] guys guys guys.. calm down. [02:59] its a bad link anyways [02:59] bad link how? comes up for me [02:59] slackytude no, just feeding a mental woody :) for completeness :) [02:59] matsuura: We will not calm down, we're hyped up on coffee. :D [03:00] yea! [03:00] thw download link to the -64 dvd is dead [03:00] tedken is dead. can we now get to the republic that we rightly are? [03:01] I need another dozen cups before Im *hyped* on coffee [03:01] Action: fire|bird gives slackytude a keg of coffee. :P [03:01] \o/ [03:01] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [03:01] sig of someone who posts on groklaw: "My strength is as the strength of ten men, for I am wired to the eyeballs on espresso." [03:03] lol [03:03] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.154.172.238) joined ##slackware. [03:05] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [03:06] adrien (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:06] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) joined ##slackware. [03:07] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:07] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:08] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [03:08] YAY WO0HO0 Gopher server is running!!! [03:09] crickets [03:09] I hope the incoming traffic doesnt flood your machine [03:10] heh [03:10] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:11] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:12] Slaxxer (n=brian@ip72-204-125-6.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:12] Nick change: adrien -> Camarade_Tux [03:12] y0 Camarade_Tux [03:12] yoyo fire|bird [03:12] morning tuxer [03:12] icarus__ (n=tits@cpe-72-177-142-8.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:13] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:13] what the heck are you running a gopher server for? [03:13] Camarade_Tux: How's it going? [03:13] fire|bird: sleepy and have a german exam in an hour :P [03:13] and you ? [03:14] excellent, thanks. [03:14] icarus__ (n=tits@cpe-72-177-142-8.satx.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection reset by peer [03:14] icarus__ (n=tits@cpe-72-177-142-8.satx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:15] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:15] heh, german exam [03:15] good luck with that [03:16] thanks :) [03:16] I need less than 6 out of 20 :D [03:16] less? [03:17] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-tgrhaplshwhrloaj) joined ##slackware. [03:17] you and your funky system [03:17] y0 The-Croupier [03:17] slackytude: hiya m8 [03:17] hows it going today? [03:18] oh, going for my second cup of coffee. there was a little panic over some printer but probably false alarm. all in all not bad till now [03:18] The-Croupier, whats up on your part of the world? [03:18] slackytude: things are getting burnt, most of athens actually [03:19] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [03:19] The-Croupier, yeah, heard that [03:19] other than that, i had to install some 50anti-viruses till friday, but i finished it yesterday in like 1hour [03:19] The-Croupier, whats up with greece lately. seems link youz get hit with random crap every year [03:20] slackytude: its a long story, people (stupid, bastards) burn forests, so that they can use them for building their crappy hotels and businesses...etc [03:20] some people are so bad, it makes me wanna murder them [03:20] and feel good about it [03:21] Action: slackytude shrugs [03:21] some people need killing [03:21] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [03:21] Action: The-Croupier is cleaning his katana [03:21] root__ (i=0@201.10.69.136) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:22] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@71-213-50-96.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [03:22] going to get a cup of coffee, and clean a little bit the place, the people upstairs have not cleaned the rubbish, and they are able to work on the rubbish till the cleaner comes, they have the mentality of ( its not my job, why should i do it) [03:22] i cannot see the place in a mess... [03:22] anyone running slackware on an ssd drive? [03:22] see you in a little bit, hope you still here [03:23] rather ssd (ssd drive is redundant) [03:23] slackytude: any good (computer or not) news website in german? [03:23] i got my laptop with me today... :( hope the boss doesnt come in [03:23] thats ok, people always say "pdf file" and "atm machine" [03:23] slackytude: I hadn't been able to go to german and had 8 out of 20 on average, that exam is 33% of the final note I think [03:23] mancha: or "3am in the morning" [03:24] Camarade_Tux, heise.de [03:24] Camarade_Tux, but thats more a techy site [03:24] Camarade_Tux, still good [03:24] slackytude: that's good :) [03:24] slackytude: I'm not too bad in german but I *never* practice [03:25] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:25] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-244-17.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:25] Ugh I hate windows (especially on the lappy) it can't see my wifi to save it's soul. :/ [03:25] Camarade_Tux, well my french sucks [03:25] wincows has blinds :P [03:25] wasnt too bad in latin, ages ago [03:25] lf4: haha [03:26] slackytude: it almost all amounts to practice imho [03:26] german's weird position of the verb ^^ [03:27] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:28] Camarade_Tux, my problem was that I had trouble with correctly pronouncing the french stuff. same in english actually. Im a terrible speaker [03:28] I got quickly frustrated with french pretty soon [03:28] hang out with Meerkins then [03:29] we'll larn ya the engrlish [03:30] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:30] Camarade_Tux, listen to knorkator [03:30] slackytude: don't worry, I guess english speakers have troubles pronouncing german than the other way round ;) [03:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7-60tyLQhA [03:31] I can understand english and I understand german, but I dont understand english dudes speaking german ^-^ [03:31] heh [03:35] slackytude: he, pretty nice :) [03:35] knorkator is great [03:36] Camarade_Tux, you understand the lyrics? [03:36] slackytude: bah, nearly died because I couldn't swallow milk correctly >< [03:36] al your fault! :D [03:37] Action: quasar slits Camarade_Tux's throat. (RAV#5) [03:38] ^-^ [03:38] It's slackytude's fault that you couldn't swallow milk correctly? haha [03:38] quasar: hmmm, I'm ok, I'm ok, I'm ok! :D [03:38] damn, the fucking printer just threw an alarm again [03:38] kick it [03:38] >:( [03:38] lf4: he had just sent me a link to a video clip which basically said "we're all going to die" ;-) [03:39] that stupid piece of fucking shit needs to fucking learn [03:39] slackytude: lp0 on fire? :P [03:39] no ping response [03:39] but now its there again [03:39] someone turned it off ;p [03:39] nah [03:39] does slackware [03:40] the printer? [03:40] I wish [03:40] does slackware's sshd use /etc/hosts.{allow, deny} ? [03:40] yeah, afaik [03:41] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:48] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [03:51] cuba33ci1 (n=cuba33ci@220-136-229-90.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:52] changing headphone's jack is pita [03:56] standeh (n=lkjdlkja@ool-44c5f1eb.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: [03:57] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [03:58] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.147) left irc: "Leaving" [04:00] Man_of_W2x (n=wax@annina.cs.unibo.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:00] damn, packet receiving is all jumpy for video and sound [04:01] well, my german exam is in 15 minutes :) [04:01] laterz slackers :) [04:01] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:01] later Camarade_Tux [04:01] good luck [04:03] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:04] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[04:29] slackytude: what you up to today man? [04:29] The-Croupier, work, sleep, repeat tomorrow [04:29] same as everyday [04:30] The-Croupier, you? [04:30] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [04:30] slackytude: sounds like fun that, i have to start doing some more lessons on a us.university here in greece, going for registration today. ;) [04:31] i dont want to have just bsc, i need something more..something to do..something with more challenge [04:31] my planned greek holidays got ruined, they burnt everything ;) [04:32] projects at work are not challenging, they are just annoying..... [04:33] slackytude: where do you work? is that uni work, or paid work? [04:33] The-Croupier, paid work. I work full time during semester breaks and 20 hours during semester [04:33] its not a bad job. just annoying [04:34] The-Croupier, so, you go to uni again? gratz [04:34] The-Croupier, you already got a bachelor? [04:34] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Connection timed out [04:35] pretty sad how greece gets treated lately. they must have annoyed zeus or something [04:37] yeah, tell me about it [04:37] not only zeus, athena as well [04:37] yeah [04:37] ;) by burning all the olive trees ;) [04:37] yeah, that made me sad [04:38] they killed a lot of olive trees [04:38] no respect [04:38] just tells me that there are lots of stupid people in the world [04:38] big suprise [04:38] what you gonna do at uni? [04:39] what do you call it when California is on fire then? [04:39] hot? [04:39] We have wild fires that burn thousands of acres and no one blames the Gods. We blame the cause. [04:40] marijuana being legalized? [04:40] antiwire: when? I've already got a couple of burns just over the hills by my house (albeit about 20 miles away, but the smoke is visibly coming over the mountain) [04:40] yeah, but its athens thats burning and greece hasnt had fires like that, uhh, for a long time. if ever [04:41] antiwire, also, its not about the fire alone dude. in the last time they had floods, droughts, some sort of parasite on their crops, fires, and violent political unrest [04:42] how about 90K acre fire that was just dealt with? [04:42] here, here for the political unrest! [04:42] the only thing missing is a volcanoe by now [04:42] ok - maybe not the violent part [04:43] our fires don't burn for days. they burn for weeks and months. [04:43] antiwire: continuing with the svideo out on the laptop - something available about enabling it all of the time so X actually uses the output? xrandr get's it going, but X doesn't use it yet [04:44] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. 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[04:50] maybe it would be better if it did if we would have gotten rid of the olympic games [04:52] dorin_ro (n=dorin@92.85.161.151) left irc: Operation timed out [04:53] sigh [04:53] I need a vacation [04:53] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425457.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:53] come to greece theres no fires now :P [04:53] I wish I could :| [04:53] ? greece [04:54] theres no forests either but thats irrelevant [04:55] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:55] some islands still have [04:55] thumbs (n=avenger@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) got netsplit. [04:55] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) got netsplit. [04:55] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) got netsplit. [04:55] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-167-151.dsl.telepac.pt) got netsplit. [04:55] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) got netsplit. [04:55] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) got netsplit. 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[04:59] can someone give me some benchmarks for : ext4 vs xfs vs reiserfs from 2009 [04:59] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:00] i am intersting in speed on average fiels .. i know xfs is only for big files but not ok for small ? .. need something that is ok for both [05:00] bhanson_ (i=bhanson@isafailure.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:00] bhanson (i=bhanson@isafailure.com) returned to ##slackware. [05:00] sfergut, look here http://tinyurl.com/l6llv7 [05:01] jkwood (n=jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) got lost in the net-split. [05:01] thumbs (n=avenger@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) got lost in the net-split. [05:01] no google thingy :P [05:01] the second and third benchmarks i already seen them [05:02] an the others are 2008 and 2007 [05:02] do your own [05:03] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "Lost terminal" [05:03] ok i will .. as i need to test the power fail shutdowns [05:07] adupuis (n=adupuis@80.12.81.23) joined ##slackware. [05:07] dorin_ro (n=dorin@89.123.150.178) joined ##slackware. [05:07] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [05:08] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:08] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [05:08] theblackerbox (n=sammo@89.240.17.52) joined ##slackware. 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[05:39] hm, the files (apache-1.3.41-i486-1_slack10.2) in patches/packages ,do i use installpkg or upgradepkg with them? [05:42] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:42] upgrade [05:43] if you have them installed previously [05:43] apn (n=apn@194.217.4.175) left irc: [05:46] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [05:47] makos (n=makos@dsl5400FFFD.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [05:47] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.23.137) joined ##slackware. [05:48] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.25.237) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:49] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:52] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [05:53] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.177) joined ##slackware. [05:54] makos_ (n=makos@dsl5400FF2A.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [05:54] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. 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[06:11] linux kernel in gen [06:11] gaz-: Add runlevel-4 to the getty inits for tty2-tty6 [06:12] # These are the standard console login getties in multiuser mode: [06:12] personally i leave tty1 alone [06:12] gaz add 4 to each one you want to have a console on [06:12] cheers ill have a look :D [06:12] i take it a reboot will be required to get this to then work? [06:13] telinit 4 [06:13] telinit 3 then telinit 4 maybe [06:14] as root of course. :) [06:14] ;) [06:14] mrselfpwn: telinit -> init [06:14] why not just use init :) [06:14] you can [06:14] doesn't matter [06:15] wasted keypresses :) [06:16] telinit has the -t option :D if you require it. [06:17] still is === init -t [06:18] hmm, looks like it :) [06:18] so why does it exist? for process ID reasons only? [06:19] f knows.. i would expect the answer is "legacy" [06:22] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [06:24] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [06:28] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-119-229.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:28] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [06:28] hi [06:28] makos (n=makos@dsl54007015.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [06:28] so how can i transfer my thunderbird files from here to current? [06:29] hey missyjane your up early [06:30] Kaapa (n=Somethin@85.243.167.151) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:30] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [06:30] i guess so lf4 :) [06:32] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:33] morning [06:33] somaly (n=somaly@202.129.236.9) joined ##slackware. [06:33] morning mrselfpwn [06:33] brb [06:34] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [06:34] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-198-4.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:35] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:38] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [06:39] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [06:42] makos_ (n=makos@dsl5400FF2A.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:45] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [06:45] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:47] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-119-229.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:47] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [06:50] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [06:50] hm.. [06:50] it does look like current has some problems [06:50] i just got a kernel panic and thunderbird wont start [06:50] hrm [06:51] what does strace thunderbird give you? [06:51] oh blah im not rebooting [06:51] basically i got a lib error [06:52] well, there are some "new" packages in -current that need to be installed as well. [06:52] boo [06:53] i had the same issue with some X stuff as now glew is needed [06:53] glew is needed for glxinfo and glxgears only iirc [06:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0EwiZcfhKI [06:54] ah, yes it was when I ran glxinfo [06:56] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:58] makos_ (n=makos@dsl5400FFE5.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [06:58] makos (n=makos@dsl54007015.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:59] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [07:02] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [07:02] Hello! [07:02] hi shik4nt4z4 [07:05] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.203.216) joined ##slackware. [07:07] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:13] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:14] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [07:16] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [07:20] http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10317763-56.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 :o [07:22] i just read about that photo on slashdot [07:23] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) joined ##slackware. [07:23] sahko: And the face of the new white guy looks so lame. [07:24] Microsoft has a lot of money but they could not make a new picture? Lamers! [07:24] ms is actually dying/losing money [07:24] yes, i prefer the black guy. [07:25] makos (n=makos@dsl5400EC56.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [07:25] missyjane: where did you read/hear that? [07:25] missyjane: That is right. But, even I am against Microsoft, it is really bad. [07:26] lf4: They have some problems with Vista crap. [07:26] lol just like they did with ME. [07:26] what was windows me all about anyway? [07:26] lf4: Because of Vista people don't want to spent money for new Microshit products. [07:27] \o/ for vista [07:27] man, what the fuck is up with the network today [07:27] first the damn printer,now some damn workstation [07:27] next will be your workstation [07:27] slackytude: next it will be a server :) [07:28] oh noes! [07:28] get better hardware then damn quality stuff [07:28] next it will be his bank account [07:28] panzer, ha! its the damn sales people being all wireless [07:28] there you go [07:28] coz the boss thinks its cool and wants no cable [07:28] death to all the sales minions [07:29] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-jxkjjkxrnldginln) joined ##slackware. [07:29] By the way, about panzer has wrote. How it comes that on a 700Mhz PC you can do the same stuff which you do on a 3Ghz dual core? [07:30] Probably today programmers don't have good coding practice anymore. [07:30] there is a plenty of articles about that heh [07:32] reallove: About Microsoft or about programming? [07:32] or the definition of "good coding practice" has always been a tradeoff, and one of the factors of that tradeoff has significantly changed [07:32] shik4nt4z4: programming [07:33] speaking of this topic. I find it funny when all a P4 2ghz machine is good for is being a router/firewall [07:33] so says the linux magazine I got from a friend. [07:34] The-Croupier (i=3e015305@gateway/web/freenode/x-tgrhaplshwhrloaj) left irc: Ping timeout: 180 seconds [07:34] Is there a good doc on how to use slackware 12.2 with dm-crypt and grub? [07:34] I hope I will becom a kick ass programmer! :-) [07:36] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [07:36] just remember that one does not need stupid amounts of power to do stuff [07:36] somaly: grub is in essence unsupported in Slackware [07:37] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [07:37] ok so [07:37] Some packages had new configuration files installed. [07:37] You have four choices: [07:37] Channel flood from missyjane -- kicking [07:37] what should i do? [07:37] missyjane kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [07:37] lea912 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:37] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [07:37] bah screw you slackboy [07:37] missyjane: ALWAYS (P)rompt [07:37] !cheers slackboy ;P [07:37] and also look to older examples of how computer interface stuff was done. and damnit watch your tab order [07:37] Zordrak, but then how do i know what i need and what i dont? [07:38] sahko, just because grub is not default does not make it unsupported. It is in /extras [07:38] missyjane: if youve not knowingly ever modified the file, then (O)verwrite [07:38] makos_ (n=makos@dsl5400FFE5.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:38] missyjane: if you hawe modified it then it's up to you [07:38] bleh its just config files.. [07:39] somaly: yes, but for example and in regards to what you asked there is no documentation for crypt+grub. only for lilo [07:39] missyjane, so you got current working? [07:39] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:39] D gives you a diff.. R lets you remove the new one and just keep the old one [07:39] somaly: if grub were supported it would be at least be mentioned in that document [07:39] or just note them down and deal with them manually [07:39] missyjane: there is an exception [07:39] FINALLY!!! HP pavilion ze4610us svideo out working with -current. Unfortunately, only works in clone mode at the moment [07:40] missyjane: never touch rc.font.new.. leave it alone [07:40] Zordrak, lol :( you say that now [07:40] Zordrak: why?! [07:40] jonsmith1982, yeah but it has a lot of problems [07:41] sahko: cause its not a real .new file.. it just happens to be calrled rc.font.new [07:41] interesting [07:41] sahko I have to say that grub is not "supported" in Slackware based on a single document [07:41] seems a bit silly [07:41] Zordrak: yeah thats my point too, .new means you can do whatever the fuck you want with it :) [07:41] if it comes on the slackware cd/dvd, its supported, no? [07:41] its semi-supported [07:42] help provided.. but no guarantees [07:42] there never is a guarantee on software [07:42] Zordrak, but there are rc init scripts to invoke rc.fonts [07:42] Zordrak: are there any other config files like that? [07:42] not that i know of [07:42] somaly: grub isnt mentioned in any document INCLUDING the one referring to crypt. is that better? :) you cant even install grub through the setup [07:42] if you install our software and your computer explodes, kills your family and rapes your cat, thats too bad [07:43] You can't get fairer than that. [07:43] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-192-215.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:44] somaly: if you follow README_CRYPT.TXT and combine it with http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LUKS#.2Fboot.2Fgrub.2Fmenu.lst it will work [07:44] If it breaks you keep both pieces [07:45] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:45] somaly: just curious, what do you need grub for? [07:45] errm sorry, somaly not that part, http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LUKS#Install_Bootloader this one [07:46] Quite blunty I have never gotten lilo to work on a multiboot system with encryption [07:46] why do you need a system encrypted? [07:46] thanks sahko looking [07:47] that is TS info missyjane [07:47] Laptops should always be encrypted. It is 2009 [07:47] TS info? [07:47] Top Secret [07:47] ah [07:47] TS? [07:47] oh [07:48] its dumb [07:48] because you arent even a terrorist [07:48] and even if you are, youll just get tortured [07:48] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@114-45-227-185.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [07:48] pff, encryption is for wimps, real men use booby traps [07:48] you think theyll go "this terrorist has a computer, we decrypted his stuff, let him go" [07:48] Not top secret enough to do # dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdx2 [07:48] haha, i just crypt my /home partition, so nobody can recover my pics :p [07:48] you use linux so therefore you are a terrorist. and some people like being tortured so there [07:49] pics? what pics? are you a guy? [07:49] haha, well not pics of myself, duh [07:49] dont need those, thats what mirrors are :p [07:49] for [07:49] i have no idea why opera refuses to play videos or music [07:49] rubber hose cryptoanalysis gets you every time [07:49] well because even i am a girl and i dont encrypt my pics [07:49] this is so fusterating [07:49] its going overboard [07:49] can't Konboot defeat the encryption? [07:49] its like having a nuclear bomb to protect a residential house [07:50] Quiznos, opera sucks [07:50] its just family stuff, and shit, nothing top secret, but surely im not going to give anyone all those like that :p [07:50] then get a separate computer [07:50] and keep all the private stuff on that computer, problem solved [07:50] all the online stuff, use another computer for that [07:50] haha [07:50] not joking you [07:50] get a 256gb USB stick [07:50] how about thinking about mother earth a bit, and not wasting money/electricity on another pc ? [07:51] that can hold a lot of porn [07:51] think it's bad now, just wait until you have to encrypt your brain. [07:51] watch out she put on her serious face [07:51] capone, you havent seen waste [07:51] not that i would want one to begin with [07:51] mrselfpwn, they already have machines that can read minds to see if you are telling lies [07:51] besides, i carry my laptop to work and everywhere i go, i like to have everything handy, since i got 250gb disk inside i can fill it with stuff at least [07:51] its been used in courts [07:52] also all my email accounts and shit has saved passwords in my homedir, so its a double feature :p [07:53] overall its more practical, dont have to think about if shit gets stolen, but whatever, im just saying [07:53] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-192-215.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:53] After 10 beers my speech becomes encrypted. [07:54] haha [07:58] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:58] how do i search for specific previously stated words in irssi? [07:59] mrselfpwn: /lastlog [07:59] thank you bud [07:59] brb [07:59] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [07:59] i never worry about shit getting stolen [07:59] i make my own shit [08:00] hmm, doesn't work in other channels :/ [08:00] thats funny tewmten so do I. [08:01] mrselfpwn: sure it does, I use it all the time, you must be doing something wrong. [08:01] user error most likely [08:01] cuba33ci (i=cuba33ci@118-168-236-236.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:01] PEBCAK [08:01] try dropping a grand piano on the current user [08:02] it usually helps [08:03] I run the command in #slackware it works. i switch to the other channel, hit the up key and run the same command and get nothing though I know the word had been used. [08:03] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: "leaving" [08:04] seems as though it's only #windows it doesn't work inn. [08:04] heh [08:05] well /lastlog only works on the buffer, so if said word has `scrolled' out of the channel buffer ... your SOL [08:05] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:06] yes, that may be true though it doesn't work in #windows which I guess is not suprising. [08:06] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [08:06] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:06] and pray tell why is that? [08:07] actually, it works >> [08:07] of course it does. [08:07] ^^ it wasn't human error i promise. ;) [08:08] ghosts in the system? [08:08] hmm, yes. [08:10] gremlins! 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[08:19] ok [08:20] apn: fail [08:20] retry worked :-] [08:21] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.203.216) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:23] does anyone know why upgrading to slack-current from slack 12.0 changed how irssi handles nickcolors.pl [08:23] makos (n=makos@dsl5400EC56.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:23] for some reason, it's only using bold colors now for the nicks [08:23] Elektro (n=Elektro@85.84.206.90) joined ##slackware. [08:24] you upgraded from 12.0 to current, how? [08:24] raela: I'm having issues trying to get nickcolors.pl even to work. [08:24] er, maybe I had 12.1. either way, I downloaded the slackware/ dir and used upgrade.txt [08:25] raela: you mean apart "it's actually not supported and will almost certainly lead to breakge"? [08:25] lf4: mine is just in scripts/autorun and works okay. it's just irritating that I got used to how it handles nicks, and now colors are messed [08:25] BP{k}: what, skipping an upgrade? yeah. other stuff works fine though [08:29] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [08:30] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:31] xchat ftw [08:32] xchat is crap :P [08:32] raela: hmm I am pretty sure it probably is something perl related. [08:34] that sucks. :/ is there a way besides hilights that I could customize the colors myself to certain hosts? [08:34] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@80.12.81.23) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:35] I know wu-nickcolor.pl can do that by using ~/.irssi/saved_colors .. not sure if the normal nickcolor.pl has support for that, and that is on a nickbases, not hostname bases. [08:36] I'd do it all in hilights, but that'd interfere with my nick hilights :/ [08:37] hm [08:38] strange, i see a lot of auth files, what do you guys do about that? [08:39] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:40] thanks, I'll just go with wu-nickcolor.pl [08:40] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [08:41] hey, i'm getting a 'missing libtk' error message when i try to run pysolfc... which package probides this library? [08:43] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:43] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [08:43] /var/log/packages/tk-8.5.7-x86_64-1:usr/lib64/libtk8.5.so [08:43] adjust for $ARCH and $VERSIION/$BUILD accordingly. [08:44] even with wu-nickcolor.pl set for a non-bold, shows up bold in channel. guess I'd have to use hilights if I wanted it right [08:44] ineteresting - I can rotate the cube if I use two fingers on the synaptics pad with the pointer on the background [08:45] I'm guessing downgrading perl is frowned upon? [08:46] depends on what you need to do - plus you have to make sure the downgraded perl works properly with the installed libraries [08:46] I want irssi to color nicks correctly according to nickcolors.pl [08:46] BP{k}: ahhh... i didn't install k package group... that's why i don't have it [08:47] raela: defining downgrading as? installing perl from another < -current slackware-version? [08:47] zoran119: uhm..... [08:47] BP{k}: yeah. going back to the perl version I had [08:47] zoran119: K/ is kernel source. tk is part of the TCL/ disk series. [08:47] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:48] BP{k}: BP{k} kde package group [08:48] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:48] zoran119: 1) that would be KDE/ 2) KDE/ != TCL/ [08:48] raela: not recommended/not wise/probably leaded to breakage/ but it's *your* system. [08:49] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [08:50] zoztrix (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:51] raela: however please do state that if you do, in future requests that 1) you upgraded from 12.{0,1} to -current (which is not supported), 2) you downgraded certain packages. IT will save time in helping. [08:52] why is skipping an upgrade so frowned upon anyway? it'd install all the same packages as a fresh install, right? [08:54] because it's less strain on your wrist to make a frownie :( than a smiley :) [08:54] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [08:54] tewmten: trust me, I've had plenty of frownies from a fresh install of a stable release [08:54] raela : because you end up with a mixed environment. that's not a supported configuration [08:56] You guys know anything about serial/modem communications? I have a phone tracker that has a modem listener and i cant manage the fucker any other way cause the thin terminal CRT is dead.. i need to access it.. while i can dial it up.. I cant communicate with it, I assume because i dont have the right protocol settings.. but how am I to know what the protocol settings need to be? it supports pretty much anything, but i dont know what its set to righ [08:58] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [08:59] i got tk installed but now i'm getting 'pyimage237 doesn't exist'... any ideas? [08:59] :q [08:59] (ops. sorry. :-) ) [09:03] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:03] greetings:) [09:04] hi hitest [09:04] hi 1f4:) [09:05] how are things going? [09:05] lf4: things are going well, ty, how are things with you? [09:06] zoran119: what lsackware-version are you install this on? [09:06] jawix (n=jawix@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [09:06] time for another coffee methinks [09:06] hitest++ [09:06] :) [09:07] hi BP{k} [09:07] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:07] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [09:07] They are alright, I get off work in 45 mins [09:07] lvsan (n=Lucas@189.111.122.124) joined ##slackware. [09:08] sounds good, man:) [09:09] BP{k}: 12.2 [09:10] lvsan (n=Lucas@189.111.122.124) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:10] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/games/pysolfc/ <-- have you installed 'pil' ? [09:10] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.82.67) joined ##slackware. [09:10] Action: Pagan_Soul is back from the dead. Gone 39 hrs 29 min 33 secs [09:10] BP{k}: yes [09:10] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [09:10] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.82.67) left irc: Client Quit [09:10] Action: BP{k} stabs Pagan_Soul .. as we do not care. [09:11] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [09:11] zoran119: well accordin to SBo it should work :) [09:11] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.82.67) joined ##slackware. [09:11] BP{k}: Ahhhh come on, not even a little bit? ;) [09:12] BP{k}: yeah... not sure what it is... did a google search and some people think it is a bug in tkinter [09:12] agentc0re: nope, sorry, you must mistake me for someone who is nice and gave a damn ;) happends a lot actually; ask kethry. ;) [09:14] BP{k}: LOL, does she do the same thing to you? hahha [09:14] agentc0re: she's not that stupid. ;) [09:14] v4nelle (n=van@adsl148-181.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:14] BP{k}: I don't even know why you would want to tell people that. [09:14] toastytoast (n=toast@74.75.199.104) left irc: "leaving" [09:15] It's not even something you would do with friends. [09:15] agentc0re: uhm which part .. I have too little coffee, now I am confused :) [09:16] zoran119: hm let me try something [09:16] BP{k}: i forget what we were talking about. [09:16] digifor (n=pjharper@122.252.178.224) joined ##slackware. [09:16] agentc0re: seems we both are in need of coffee :) [09:16] BP{k}: i have no coffee and am just out of bed [09:16] BP{k}: Ahh the good wife did her job and brought me coffee. [09:16] :D [09:17] agentc0re, Asian wife? [09:17] digifor: lol, no. [09:17] and i'm just kidding around about her "doing he job".. [09:17] mine brought me beer [09:17] how nice of her. [09:17] me too [09:17] zoran119: where did you get the source from? [09:17] my wife is Asian, but, I get my own coffee:) [09:18] i am realizing that it might be too early for sarcasm. [09:18] zoran119: disregard. seems SF had some problems finding its arse once again. [09:18] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@216.23.240.13) joined ##slackware. [09:18] BP{k}: pysolfc and pil from the links that are on slackbuilds [09:18] hitest: Is she your sugar momma? ;) [09:18] :) [09:18] BP{k}: tcl and tk packages from osuosl [09:19] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [09:19] Action: BP{k} gets kethry to serve him coffee :) [09:19] :) [09:20] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.82.67) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [09:21] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-204-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:21] sidmario_ (n=xxx@201-92-127-45.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:21] Nick change: sidmario_ -> Guest33712 [09:22] v4nelle (n=van@adsl148-181.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:22] zoran119: hmm I just compiled pil and pysolfc on kethry's machine. And it works. (granted it's not a clean build enviroment though.) [09:23] zoran119: version of python? [09:23] BP{k}: and you start it with pysol.py? [09:24] BP{k}: python 2.5.2 [09:24] zoran119: both through menu and from the cli using pysol.py. [09:24] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [09:25] lilo -M /dev/sda should install lilo to the mbr of SDA correct? [09:25] i must be missing a package then... [09:27] LOL, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwdSlFMZoOg [09:27] for those 8bit gamers. :D [09:28] digifor: that, or if it's in the config file, just "lilo" should work [09:28] pysol starts and it crashes when the progress bar gets to the end in the start screen [09:28] my /boot is /dev/sda3 / is on /dev/sd4 aka /dev/mapper/cryptroot [09:29] sda1 is windoze and sda2 is OpenSolaris [09:30] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:30] my initrd and lilo conf are otherwise the same as the http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware/README_CRYPT.TXT [09:30] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:31] zoran119: perhpas try removing ~/.PySolFC if it exists? [09:31] So the line near the top read "boot = /dev/sda3" [09:32] apn (n=apn@194.217.4.175) left irc: [09:34] BP{k}: i still get _tkinter.TclError: image "pyimage237" doesn't exist [09:35] now you can know what your dog is saying, http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/07/13/bowlingual-portable-dog-language-translator/ [09:35] heh [09:35] too bad it's in japanese... but still funny to watch. [09:35] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.144.243) joined ##slackware. [09:36] BP{k}: what verson of tcl do you have? [09:36] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-24-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:36] root@persephone:/var/log/packages# ls tcl* [09:36] tcl-8.5.5-i486-1 tclx-8.4-i486-2 [09:37] apn_ (n=apn@194.217.4.175) joined ##slackware. [09:41] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[09:50] how can i fix my fluxbox? [09:50] with a hammer. [09:52] preferrably 10lb [09:52] with an xinitrc.kde [09:52] i believe a tightly wound badger would do the trick [09:54] matt0 (n=matt0@203-213-78-125.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [09:55] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-27-250.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:55] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [09:56] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [09:56] anybody knows how to get all machines in a domain / workgroup like the windows neighbourhood does? it works fine with smb4k but I cant seem to find the right commandline options [09:56] dios2: probably a more sensible answer will be "by asking a more appropriate question than the one just asked." [09:56] BP{k}, , how can i uninstal it? [09:57] removepkg fluxbox [09:58] maybe i should first do install pkg :P [09:58] maybe you should engage your brain before opening your mouth? [09:59] matt0 (n=matt0@203-213-78-125.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:59] BP{k}: hammers are like keys to the world [10:00] ViN86: to be honest, I really prefer katanas for this kind of work ;) [10:00] slice and dice [10:00] bank closed? use a hammer. car locked? use a hammer. [10:00] bank has... never mind. [10:00] katanas are for sex appeal though [10:00] hammer is for menly men lol [10:01] and hairy dwarfs. [10:01] dios2 (n=freelove@88.236.176.108) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:01] like the safety dance video [10:01] xxjx (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "zzzz" [10:02] i think that eggs, bread, and ketchup are the greatest items ever in combination [10:03] badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom! [10:03] i completely agree [10:03] ViN86: you forgot the bacon! [10:03] We're a bit short on bacon, but I could bring you some spam instead [10:03] BP{k}: gotta watch the midline heh [10:04] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:04] matt0 (n=matt0@203-213-78-125.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [10:04] Spam! [10:04] pop quiz: what does spam stand for? [10:04] quick [10:04] I just experienced what I would call a 'random lockup' and was forced to reboot, YAY SLACKWARE! [10:04] Salted Pork and Ham? [10:04] StevenR_:close, i think its SPiced hAM [10:04] ViN86: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE [10:05] SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM [10:05] sahko: ive seen that haha [10:05] fuzzbawl, You're good at that [10:05] matt0: there are no indestructible systems. live with it :p [10:05] fuzzbawl: I'll have the spam sausage spam spam bacon spam tomato and spam [10:07] s/sausage/baked beans [10:07] baked beans are off. [10:07] oh, then I'll have spam instead then [10:08] anyone notice that there is spam on that youtube link in the comments? [10:08] IRONY! [10:08] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/mizzer/EdMac.jpg [10:08] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [10:14] no one has heard about mckennedy? [10:15] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [10:15] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:16] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-TWENTY-THREE.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [10:17] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.144.243) joined ##slackware. [10:17] dios2 (n=freelove@88.236.176.108) joined ##slackware. [10:18] If my /boot is /dev/sda3 and / is /dev/sda4 what do I need to change from this: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware/README_CRYPT.TXT [10:18] ? [10:19] I am using the Slackware 12.2 default SMP kernel '2.6.27.7-smp' [10:21] digifor, I suggest you to install patches/packages/*.tgz [10:22] Thom1, what for? [10:22] to install security patches [10:22] like kernel-2.6.27.31 [10:23] At this point I'd just like to see if I can boot my laptop [10:23] but it is a good tip for later [10:24] I have a big problem in that lilo does not seem to be installing in the MBR [10:25] what is you boot parameter in general config from lilo.conf ? [10:25] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-171-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [10:27] What do you mean by boot parameter? Should it be /dev/sda or /dev/sda3 for the /boot? [10:28] the line "boot" in lilo.conf at the beginning [10:28] boot = ? I've tried both of those [10:28] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [10:29] boob parameter [10:29] can someone tell me what this fortune means? http://pastebin.com/d3d2c2fea [10:29] digifor, you should use boot = /dev/sda to install lilo in mbr [10:30] Thom1 does that apply for an encrypted drive? [10:30] missyjane: listen phonetically :) [10:31] "some day my prints will come in" -> "some day my prince will come in" [10:31] digifor, you can encrypt a partition, not a drive [10:31] awww.... [10:31] digifor, so /dev/sda (mbr) is not encrypted [10:31] partition I mean. sda4 with sda3 as /boot [10:31] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [10:31] what about the young girl one and the parent drops one? [10:32] digifor, you can't encrypt /boot [10:32] I know [10:32] that's all [10:32] "he's fit to be tide" -> "he's fit to be tied" [10:32] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [10:32] missyjane: google pun [10:32] gnubien, i suck at picking up pun [10:32] Just for the record sda1 is Windoze and sda2 is OpenSolaris [10:33] alisonken1noc, o.o tied?! [10:33] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@static-68-236-209-41.nwrk.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:33] yep - tied as in "he's so mad he's fit to be tied" as in ropes (not necessarily handcuffs :) ) [10:33] wd_ (n=wd@adsl-71-137-252-219.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [10:34] "Carmen or Cohen" is a little harder, but try "coming or going" [10:34] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) joined ##slackware. [10:34] what about the last one? D: [10:35] dios2 (n=freelove@88.236.176.108) left irc: "Leaving" [10:35] well, "the good old dais" ->"the good old days" [10:35] youre good >< [10:35] dios_mio (n=test@88.236.176.108) left irc: "leaving" [10:36] well, not sure about the "square roots" one unless it's related to math teacher and "square roots" equations [10:36] following alien's lvm + luks install guide in making a initrd to support lvm + luks if i choose smp kernel and i only a single core processor PII or PIII box will i suffer kernel performance? [10:36] as in the square root of a number [10:37] i'm just about reinstalled. Will soon be at the liloconfig part. I hope to get it right this time [10:37] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:38] bah [10:38] makos_ (n=makos@dsl5400ED34.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: Client Quit [10:38] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:38] thank you alisonken1noc [10:38] Action: missyjane curtsy [10:38] np [10:38] Action: alisonken1noc bows [10:39] Action: CaptObviousman yarrs loudly [10:39] Action: alisonken1noc stuffs a hambone into CaptObviousman's yarrs [10:39] mmrnhnffff mnhvvffffff! [10:39] btw i thought you guys might want to know - i got kernel panic with current, also some flash files wont be played and i have to dhcp to get online [10:39] I assume I am going to run liloconfig as "expert"... [10:40] following alien's lvm + luks install guide in making a initrd to support lvm + luks if i choose smp kernel and i only a single core processor PII or PIII box will i suffer kernel performance? [10:40] digifor: only if you want to edit the /etc/lilo.conf file by hand [10:41] alisonken1noc, I have to at some point as per http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware/README_CRYPT.TXT [10:41] digifor: there is that :) [10:41] I just want to confirm it that I should install to /dev/sda and not my /boot partition? [10:42] digifor, install what ? [10:42] lilo [10:42] Confirm location to install lilo [10:42] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [10:43] choosing a smp kernel for a single core, will i suffer any kernel loss by telling the kernel to use smp vs vanilla kernel? [10:43] for mbr, it would be /dev/sda - for partition usually only if doing multiboot options and you know what you're doing [10:44] wd_: shouldn't - although you may have to pass "noapic noacpi" to the kernel on a single-core chip [10:44] matt0 (n=matt0@203-213-78-125.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: "wut" [10:45] alisonken1noc: ic ok. guess i'll follow alien's guide to the t. [10:48] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:48] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:48] If I am not using LVM do I need an initrd? [10:48] with dm-crypt? [10:49] whats with all this luks/dmcrypt talk all of the sudden? the past week has been nothing but this subject [10:49] is the govt coming for us or something?? [10:50] and people stop talking [10:51] i promise you im not a fbi agent [10:51] i swear [10:51] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [10:51] missyjane, -_- [10:51] missyjane, what are you talking about? You're always undercover! *hides* [10:53] and encryption is handy... gpg vim integration for the win :D [10:53] but sticking hidden messages inside mohammad cartoons is more fun ;p [10:54] ok everytime i do the lvm + luks install i always lose my lilo.conf how? before i leave the lilo option i chose view and i see one then when i close it the conf is gone, any answers? [10:55] i'll write one np.. just wondering how i'm screwing this. [10:56] apn_ (n=apn@194.217.4.175) left irc: [10:57] wd_, why do you need encryption? [10:57] missyjane: "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you" [10:58] because alien wrote the howto and if it's good for him it's good for me.. :) [10:58] missyjane: seriously.. if my laptop get's stolen i'm safe. [10:59] :) [10:59] wd_, oh laptop [10:59] alisonken1noc, lol [10:59] if my laptop gets stolen, who cares? it's 6 years old and the only thing I have on it is terminals that log into the servers [10:59] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-244-17.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [11:00] missyjane: ok...you win.... plus... overkill for my file server. [11:00] Action: missyjane steals alisonken1nocs laptop [11:00] phillipsm (n=IceChat7@173-19-56-246.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [11:00] ooh.. social security... credit card... [11:00] fernandomdx (i=0@189.83.6.68) joined ##slackware. [11:01] where does pkgtool install programs to? I just installed the Python-3.1.1.tgz and i don't know where the bin files are now?? [11:01] zoztrix (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:01] hey guys [11:02] i have a question [11:02] phillipsm, grep bin /var/log/packages/Python-3.1.1.tgz [11:02] you cant ask fernandomdx [11:02] go away [11:02] shoo [11:02] i am installing gnome from slackbuild, and... what i can cancel packages un-necessary (my inglish is not good :P) [11:02] missyjane: yep. bank statements and more. [11:03] fernandomdx, lol sounds like me when i tried to learn chinese and currently jjapanese [11:03] i translated english to chinese and they make fun of me :( [11:03] wait,i go pick a tradutor for a question. [11:03] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:04] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [11:04] Thom1 its showing that they are in there but when i type # python "filename" it cant find the interpreter [11:04] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:04] phillipsm, a python 3.11 tgz package? where from? [11:05] the python site [11:05] it came out on the 16th i believe [11:05] >_< [11:05] type: which python [11:05] ok - on -current, thunderbird is not starting - "cannot open shared object file libstdc++.s0.5" [11:05] I am installing the gnome slackbuilds, as I DO NOT have to install some packages that I DO NOT want? for this taking too long. [11:05] understand now? [11:06] fernandomdx, how long is too long? and full install is safer [11:06] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:06] phillipsm, you do realize that there are no slackware packages on python.org, do you? [11:06] missyjane: i dont now, but pass 4 hours and dont finish =/ [11:06] know* [11:06] fernandomdx, wow slow pc, what the hell are you on? D: [11:06] phillipsm, its a gzipped source [11:06] lol well i suppose that would be the problem then [11:07] aye [11:07] i am brazillian guy, my internet is very slowly :/ i dont have a money hahaha [11:07] fernandomdx, :( then just use what you have [11:07] slackytude so i gotta build the source and do it that way then? [11:07] missyjane: but,i can choice packages? [11:08] phillipsm, yeah, pretty much. and put it in /opt or something [11:08] ok [11:08] phillipsm, so it wont hurt your already installed python [11:08] yeah i know [11:08] fernandomdx, sure but youll probably run into dependency problem [11:08] right [11:08] thanks [11:08] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-TWENTY-THREE.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [11:09] no sweat [11:09] almost time to go home! [11:10] missyjane: i want just pull out openoffice, and others like that [11:11] o/ [11:11] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [11:12] crap just finished luks + lvm install this time error: mounting /dev/cryptvg/root on /mnt failed: no such device. No /sbin/init found or rootdev (or not mounted).. ? [11:12] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89AF4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [11:12] wd, iirc there is a very detailed and rather well written luks+lvm "howto" on the root slackware dl site(s) [11:13] icarus_ (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [11:13] mancha: i used alien's that worked before. [11:13] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [11:13] mancha: slackware http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware/README_CRYPT.TXT [11:13] ok - i think what i refer to is written by alienBOB, so just follow that [11:14] mancha: i did and it worked for my other installs.. i missed something this time can't figure what it is. [11:14] do it again [11:14] i have a question [11:14] i have 4 hard drives [11:15] i want to put slack on one, but i dont want to have the others plugged in while i do it [11:15] kind of a safety measure... [11:15] mancha: i don't have to dd again right? [11:15] but it cant mount the slack drive if i add more hard drives cause it goes from sda1 to sdd1 or something [11:16] can i just edit fstab? or is there more to it? [11:16] wd no [11:16] mancha: i just installed all packages... darnit. [11:17] the urandom stuff to the part originally you mean? thats so that the later encrypted stuff is not distiguishable as a block of data on the drive. ie imagine all the part is 0's then suddenly you have a block of garbled stuff. even if undecipherable, it shows start/end of "data" [11:17] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:17] ViN86, what operating systems are on the other drivers? [11:17] drives* [11:17] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [11:17] mancha: gotcha [11:17] you would edit your bootloader btw not fstab [11:17] fstab is for remembering mount points [11:17] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:17] which is fine for once you're in the os but not for botting [11:17] justin: windows 7 on one drive, other two are files for storage [11:17] mancha: format and begin over huh? [11:17] typos too much coffee [11:17] mancha: oh alright. [11:18] justin: yea i looked into that [11:18] ViN86, cant you just have your slack drive as sda1? [11:18] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [11:18] mancha: it has to be somthing simple.. darnit. [11:18] but lilo won't update [11:18] well id prefer to have my win 7 drive as primary [11:18] ion_ (i=ion@diomedes.phear.cc) joined ##slackware. [11:18] since it's MS is often finnicky about that [11:18] I'm building a castle in a swamp [11:18] what do you mean lilo won't update? [11:18] digifor: she's got HUGE... tracts of land! [11:19] justin`: well if i change the dev to sdd1 [11:19] i type lilo and it cant find the reference [11:19] so it fails [11:19] so how do you all have it all plugged in now? [11:20] and is that how you want it to be? [11:20] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [11:20] justin`: sda1 = win 7, sdb1 = files1, sdb2 = files2, sdc1 = files3, sdd1 = slack drive [11:20] that's how i have/want it, except for the slack dirve [11:20] *drive [11:21] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-244-17.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:22] Well, depending on how you installed lilo you will want the slack drive as your primary (you can have default boot win 7 still in lilo config) [11:22] OR [11:22] run a boot loader on your win 7 drive [11:22] justin`: id prefer to use the BIOS boot menu to choose the drive i want to boot [11:22] instead of a boot loader on my win 7 drive [11:22] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "blackout" [11:23] that's fine Vin, your proposed setup. just install slack to sdd1 (part 1 of drive 4) [11:23] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:23] mancha: it won't give me problems, right? [11:23] not like win XP which automatically wrote its boot sector to the primary drive every time? rofl [11:23] why do you anticipate problems? [11:23] Nick change: ion_ -> i0n [11:24] mancha: plan for the worst, hope for the best ;) [11:24] no, slack will only write to sdd1. if you run lilo it'll write to the mbr of sda but thats it [11:24] oh [11:24] or th mbr of the "bootable" drive [11:24] so if i install lilo it will write it to sda? [11:24] cause that's not good... [11:25] that "boot menu" you refer to is code that sits in the mbr of the boot drive [11:25] there are multiple variables and options [11:25] the mbr is not part of windows, btw, it is merely bootloader code on the first xyz bytes of the drive [11:25] mancha: no, im referring to my boot order in the BIOS [11:26] yea i know that, im saying i want to use the bios to choose which disk to boot first, but i want both to have boot sectors respective to their OS (ie win 7 is win 7, slack is lilo) [11:26] oh, yeah if you can specify booting off another drive then you don't need to fuss with a boot menu [11:26] ViN86, what's the problem, if your BIOS boot menu allows you to choose which drive then I don't understand where your problems come from? [11:26] install lilo's bootloader to the mbr of sdd [11:27] justin`: installing slack by itself (no other drives installed), then trying to boot from it when it's sdd1 doesnt work [11:27] cause it tries to mount/access sda1, cause that's what it thinks it is [11:27] but it isnt, it's sdd1 [11:27] i.e. lilo -b /dev/sdd [11:27] Vin, just change your fstab [11:28] mancha: lol that's what i said like 15 min ago... [11:28] that should do it right? cause then it will mount the drive [11:28] i wasn't paying attention 15 minutes ago. ask for your money back. [11:28] mancha: haha nah you can keep it :) [11:28] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:28] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [11:29] yes, install lilo to sdd via lilo -b /dev/sdd, then edit /etc/fstab to reflect the naming convention when all 4 are plugged in, then you shoudl be fine, make sure lilo.conf also shows sdd not sda [11:30] well i think lilo was fine, the problem was mounting [11:30] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.9) left irc: [11:30] ok then s/sda/sdd in /etc/fstab [11:30] plus i ran into the problem where lilo wouldn't update, since if the drive is by itself, sdd doesnt exist [11:31] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [11:31] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:31] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.214) joined ##slackware. [11:32] fernandomdx (i=0@189.83.6.68) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:32] yes, thats why you need to put the sdd stuff in the conf and force it via -b [11:32] ahh ok [11:32] so i update lilo.conf with sdd [11:32] then use the lilo -b /dev/sdd cmd to force the update [11:33] if that doesn't work (since i've not done it) then when all four drives are plugged in use a livecd (or slack boot cd) and mount sdd1 chroot into it, and run lilo to sdd then [11:34] ahh thats a good idea [11:34] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:35] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-165.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:35] mancha: thanks a lot [11:35] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) joined ##slackware. [11:35] no problemo [11:35] justin`: you too, thanks [11:36] Elektro (n=Elektro@85.84.206.90) left irc: [11:37] any of you guys ever use TrueCrypt? [11:37] yeah, tc is a very nice app [11:37] yea i like it a lot [11:37] im trying bit locker on win 7 atm [11:37] going to see if i like it as much as tc [11:37] and it has the added benefit of being cross-OS compatible [11:37] mancha, yea thats the best part imo [11:38] and o course, open source, so it is auditable and you know or at least have a stronger reason to think there are no gremlins [11:38] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-132-165.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:38] yes definitely [11:38] hmmm [11:39] Vin i think i know why you don't want to even touch the mbr, you have full disk enc) on sda which means it is a custom bootloader (truecrypt in the case of tc) [11:40] yes [11:40] ? [11:40] no but that makes more sense lol [11:41] truth is, i am very touchy with OS drives, because i have ruined/restored a lot of boot sectors, and i find it very annoying [11:41] ok, use my excuse then, yours is weaker :> [11:41] mancha: yes i will use it from now on haha [11:41] my old system i ran my linux drive primary and used lilo to boot XP [11:41] it is copylefted on this 26th day of august of the year of our lord 2009 [11:42] anno domini [11:42] dang [11:42] does anyone here know martial art? [11:43] missyjane: like, fighting? [11:43] yes [11:43] cause martial arts is kind of vague heh [11:43] like fighting [11:43] lol [11:43] how is it vague? [11:43] well there are many kinds [11:43] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:44] really? what else is there? [11:44] i forgot that i had to build qt first lol [11:44] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_arts [11:44] check out the variation and scope paragraph [11:45] Jujitsu, Tae-kwan-do, Ren-Ju-Budo-Kai... and such [11:45] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-244-17.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [11:46] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@static-68-236-209-41.nwrk.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:47] If you are serious about self defence you should read Meditations of Violence by Rory Miller [11:48] Or get a minigun [11:48] steal straterra's minigun [11:48] lol [11:48] straterra, are you serious ? [11:48] agentc0re|work (n=jon@65.121.183.1) joined ##slackware. [11:48] always is [11:49] thrice`: About a minigun? [11:49] In 19 percent of close protection encounters there is no time to draw your minigun [11:49] do you have gun ? [11:49] No..I have several [11:49] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:49] digifor: That's your problem..always have it out and spun up [11:49] jeez how did it come to this [11:49] no one will even mess with you [11:49] i just wanted to find a new workout lol [11:49] straterra, what for ? [11:49] In the real world the police and the army will be happy to mess with you. [11:50] you guys always turn things and make it worse [11:50] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:50] Because its my constitutional right to have weapons [11:50] missyjane, it is a good way to get fit [11:50] Oh..and some are family heirlooms [11:50] Some are for personal protection..some are just fun [11:50] missyjane: you expected anything better? [11:50] The Krav Maga people call it fitness that you can use [11:50] in their marketing [11:50] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [11:51] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-180-130-38.vic.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [11:51] missyjane: you must be new around here... [11:52] gun nuts :P [11:52] Thom1: Why not? [11:52] straterra, I don't know if you're american or not, but I know the mentality between american and europeen is very different about guns [11:52] missyjane, another good book is The Truth about Self Protection by Massad Ayoob [11:52] Thom1++ [11:52] lol im not buying any books digifor, Necos o.O lol i guess i should be used to it already [11:53] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [11:53] I'm american..whats the big deal about owning guns? [11:53] panzer, yes, i was hoping someone would be able to offer some advice :x doing p ushup and running can be boring [11:53] missyjane: judo works well [11:54] Thom1: yes, europeans expect their govt to use guns to protect them, americans use guns to protect them from their govt [11:54] straterra, I don't judge you or anybody, but guns are not in our culture, so just a few people had one [11:54] remember that heh [11:54] Thom1: straterra is an autonomous country >.> [11:54] straterra some people hate you for doing so. [11:54] Quiznos: for having guns? [11:54] Thom1: well they arent anymore, they used to be [11:54] missyjane: it is fun, effective, and a good way to get in shape [11:54] missyjane, take a look a few classes or better still take a first esson. They are usually free [11:54] straterra yes [11:54] straterra, it's just different culture [11:54] Let them hate me..I don't care [11:54] straterra all the vehement liberals. [11:54] good [11:54] i mean something i can do at home >< [11:54] My existence isn't dependant on people liking me [11:54] straterra: i am happy you own guns [11:54] but there's does [11:54] And I'm liberal myself [11:54] it's on people hating you straterra :P [11:54] you cant be. [11:54] missyjane: pushups and running then ;-) [11:54] you dont fit the mold [11:54] i think you should exercise your rights [11:54] Action: BP{k} watches blanketstatements fly left and right. [11:54] If the instructor is any good you won't get any pressure to join. you will want to [11:55] Action: Quiznos burns the blankets [11:55] Action: ViN86 pours water on the blankets [11:55] macavity, lol someone just recommended me bas ruttens workout [11:55] i see lots of kneeing [11:55] >< and elbowing and strikes [11:55] Action: Quiznos waits [11:55] Action: ViN86 sneaks out the back door... [11:55] Action: Quiznos points sun at blankets then the gasoline [11:55] Action: BP{k} uses the heat signals from the blanmket to fire a phased array tracking in intercept of target at Quiznos. [11:55] lol [11:55] Action: ViN86 wonders how someone can move the sun... [11:56] did i say move? [11:56] if you want to learn something that will come natural in a real fight, you need to practice with a partner [11:56] ViN86: the force is strong in some ;) [11:56] period [11:56] burn baby burn [11:56] Action: ViN86 thinks Quiznos forgot something to focus the sunlight [11:56] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [11:56] less people having guns == more ammo for me [11:56] poof; auti-extinction. [11:56] Do you remember the Billy Blanks Tae bo shite. [11:56] chess (n=chess@unaffiliated/chess) joined ##slackware. [11:56] lol tae bo [11:56] thats rich [11:56] digifor i have 2 of his vcr tapes [11:56] digifor: sadly I do ;) [11:57] whats tae bo and why do ppl make fun of it? [11:57] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:57] whats that? [11:57] 6m to RushL [11:57] its a kickboxing workout routine [11:57] missyjane: whats google and why don't people use it? [11:57] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:57] that was a fad for a while [11:57] oh [11:57] i volunteer macavity for missyjane's beatup partner [11:57] anyone here about mckennedy? [11:57] oh yes [11:57] beat-down [11:57] ViN86 whodat? [11:57] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/mizzer/EdMac.jpg [11:58] ViN86, do you mean using google before asking questions? [11:58] up, down... what's the difference? :P [11:58] he passed away [11:58] nbd [11:58] digifor: no lol [11:58] except that a serious troublemaker is dead. [11:58] Nick change: chb -> chb|wm [11:58] missyjane: im on... just come to denmark and practice on me.. only one rule: I get to defend myself with grabing, throwing and sweeping only (no kicking, hitting or strangling) [11:58] i cant stop laughing at that mckennedy picture [11:58] they did it with michael jordan and michael jackson too and it was hilarious [11:59] then we will see how well some video tape televangelist of self defense worsk [11:59] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Blanks#Famous_clients he had obama as client [11:59] works [11:59] Judo was a good suggestion. Because it is an Olympic sport the instructors tend to have to meet a certain standard [11:59] 6m to RushL [11:59] lol [11:59] billy blanks [11:59] macavity, damn denmark [11:59] there's a ref to him the boondocks cartoon ^_^ [11:59] You trust the Wikipedia as a source of information [11:59] if judo is good enough for obamessiah, its good enough for the masses [11:59] next it will be required by law [12:00] digifor: *and* it is hard to become a victim in court.. because of the way most judo works [12:00] I have done Judo and Taekwondo. [12:00] Action: BP{k} has been thinking of picking up Kendo [12:01] chb|wm (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [12:01] Action: ViN86 has a kendo stick his japanese exchange student gave him 15 years ago [12:01] If you have any friends who are cops or military ask them to recommend an instructor. [12:01] BP{k}: i was going to join, but i can't afford the 100$/mo [12:01] "why did you throw him on the ground so hard he broke his tail bone?!?!".. "because he was on by back Your Honor".. "Why was he on your back?".. "because he grapped me, and i tried to turn around and run away" [12:01] I've done Karate [12:01] Necos: yeah, that is the only thing stopping me at the moment as well. [12:01] macavity, lol is that for real? [12:01] macavity: isnt it amazing how criminals are victims? [12:02] One of the best martial artists I knew was an Australian female nurse from Ipswich. Worked Psychiatric wards. [12:02] Action: BP{k} got excused from doing self defense training when doing his national service ... [12:02] Did Jiu Jitsu [12:02] missyjane: it is hard to be painted as the agressor when most the tecniques work around the other one attacking you [12:02] my favorite is the 10 year old girl that shot the illegal immigrants that broke into her house with a shotgun [12:02] hm what martial art do you guys recommend for a small girl? [12:02] missyjane: whatever you like. Size is seldomly a real issue. [12:02] Jiu Jitsu is effective too.. personally i find it a little cruder, but thats just me being a purist [12:02] BP{k}: the guy that teaches kendo in my area is pretty famous apparently >.> [12:03] missyjane: in judo it is often an advantage to be small [12:03] damn that story was false according to snopes :( [12:03] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [12:03] Judo, Aikido, Krav Maga, Systema, Hapkido, Silat or a Philipino art like Kali, Escrima or Arnis [12:03] BP{k} were you? [12:03] missyjane: since it is throwing-centric the lover gravitational center is a plus [12:03] hey [12:03] missyjane: I have seen 5'2" koreans literally wipe the floor with 6'2 westerners [12:03] lol [12:03] BP{k}++ [12:03] BP{k}, do you have youtube videos demonstrating this? lol its hard to believ [12:03] me too [12:04] and how can i practice at home? D: [12:04] But none of them will make you indestructable. [12:04] missyjane: again, you dont practice martial arts alone... [12:04] bah i gotta look for a partner huh [12:04] missyjane: size accounts for very little when its compared to experience [12:04] there should be something i can buy hm [12:04] Quiznos: I am living currently in the UK, but was born in the netherlands, and did my national service and martial arts there [12:05] missyjane: like a little expensive pill that will make you a black belt judoka? :P [12:05] http://www.shinkendo.com/ <--- BP{k} [12:05] BP{k} k [12:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdNrrmn57UI YIKES look [12:05] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: Client Quit [12:05] macavity, LOL! no like a punching bag or throwing bag [12:05] Necos: hmm that guy on the front page looks familiar ;) [12:06] missyjane: it will do you little good in a real fight... [12:06] yeah lol [12:06] missyjane: breaktests are easier than they look ;) [12:07] RushL hours now [12:07] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [12:07] missyjane, in addition to that if you are in a country where concealed carry is legal learning to shoot under a reputable instructor. [12:07] BP{k}: there are a bunch of videos of his students on youtube [12:07] oh gun is not a propblem for me [12:07] i learned to shoot when my ex taught me [12:07] im not against it, i am in a state that doesnt allow it nor can i afford it [12:07] missyjane: if you do that against a skull your fingers will get crushed [12:08] i didnt mean for this to turn into a self defense topic, im just looking for a workout and found bas rutten workout and im gonna do that lol [12:08] digifor she lives in NewYork state; a liberal bastion of haters against guns. [12:08] I thought this was #slackware not #alt.deadlymartial.arts [12:08] digifor she in fact lives within new york city [12:08] it's #mightymorphinslackware [12:08] digifor: ask a slackware question to turn it back into ##slackware ;-) [12:08] nobody here is talking about slackware lol or id stop immediately [12:09] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-jxkjjkxrnldginln) left irc: [12:09] hehehe [12:10] I wiped my windows and solaris partions. Now I am just installing slackware... [12:10] here, topic change http://www.gundamstoreandmore.com/tacoinnewve4.html [12:10] lol or nvm [12:10] missyjane: i dont know about where you live, but here practicing judo is ~$125 a year, payed in 4 installments [12:10] While giving someone a roundkick [12:10] allend (n=allend@CPE-124-180-130-38.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [12:10] missyjane: obsever that judo is excelent workout.. ask BP{k} too [12:10] *observe [12:11] haha [12:11] macavity, serious? we have a gracie jiu jitsu gym here but it cost $1000+ a month [12:11] Judo tends to be cheap. Boxing too. Some gyms will let you come and just do bagwork [12:11] i seriously dont know any gym that is only $100~ a year [12:11] missyjane: O_O [12:11] well.. here Judo is not a "gym" per se [12:11] you show up for 1.5 hours two times a week [12:12] even 1 hour a week is worth $100 a year [12:12] we have NOTHING like that [12:12] the other days you just do you nomal pushup/situp/running exercise at home [12:12] personal training can go up thousands by the hours [12:13] man.. i should go back to Judo, get black belt, move to the states and start class teaching [12:13] lol [12:13] 30x$1000 *a class* [12:13] i can do like 4 classes a day, 6 days a week [12:14] 15 pairs is managable for one instructor, and one or two assistants [12:14] missyjane: you should really look into that.. i dont belive class training in judo is that expensive [12:15] http://www.jiu-jitsu.net/nyma/jiu-jitsu_about.shtml the closest i can get to thats "cheap" [12:15] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@124.150.109.149) joined ##slackware. [12:15] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@124.150.109.149) left ##slackware. [12:15] lol theyll train you per training [12:15] missyjane, Check out the YWCA/YMCA's. They often have Judo or Self Defense Classes that are cheap. [12:15] jui-jitsu is more of a fashion sport than judo.. thus more expensive [12:15] digifor++ [12:16] lol [12:16] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@124.150.109.149) joined ##slackware. [12:16] Look at that I even spelled defense wrong. The American way ;) [12:16] ill give you an example [12:16] It is Defence by the way. [12:16] http://www.nycjudo.com/schedule.html [12:17] ymca in ny, $125 a week [12:17] y is 50$ per month [12:17] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [12:18] http://static-p4.fotolia.com/jpg/00/11/88/63/400_F_11886348_F2JZC8WeJ36i6NldSz0eAlaLQvfIfjal.jpg [12:18] what a slutty looking muay thai girl :| [12:18] Excuse me I got to do some actual slackware stuff brb [12:19] lol missyjane [12:20] ok [12:20] no more ma talk, pm me instead :X [12:20] my GF just pointed out that in Denmark non pro sports clubs get government funds [12:20] aka "sports schools" [12:21] that is probably why we can keep it affordable to everyone [12:21] hmmmm [12:21] macavity wow [12:21] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-121.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:21] even when we have a right wing governement, Denmark seems rather "commi" compared to the US :-) [12:22] all of europa is socialist. [12:22] IceW (n=sartori@189-19-153-171.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:22] indeed [12:22] q.v. bolsheviks [12:22] gaz (n=gaz@cpc1-runc1-0-0-cust61.bagu.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:22] i hope we get the left wing back on the next election [12:23] Action: Quiznos shudders; that's the problem. [12:23] they are socialists [12:23] our schools and hospitals need an overhaul [12:23] no they dont; they need to be able to freely compete for patrons. [12:23] we dropped to like 15th in the world when it comes to healthcare :-/ [12:23] live and die according to the quality of their business conduct. [12:24] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [12:24] we should be back in the top 3, fighting with Germany and France for the top [12:24] stop being jealous of the govts [12:24] ignore what they do; you are a dane. [12:25] macavity: ummm what do you think these disposal coffins are for across the us and the concentration camps in our states, just saw youtube video documentaries and im freaking out? [12:26] huh? [12:26] nvm. [12:26] :P [12:26] i'm freaking out. [12:26] dont [12:26] chill [12:26] why [12:26] huh? [12:26] chill [12:27] because freaking out by itself wont help anything [12:27] macavity: there are coffins all over the country. [12:27] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [12:27] it will only cloud your ability to think objectively [12:27] wd_ why would you ever take a youtube video seriously? [12:27] i mean, loose change was on there... [12:27] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A7734D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] that should be proof enough that its crap [12:27] macavity: and there are concentration camps funded by the govt back in early 2000. [12:27] maybe for radiation accidents? [12:27] ViN86: not only youtube. [12:28] spook: never. [12:28] wd_: well.. i live in Denmark, so i dont give a rats ass ;-) [12:28] macavity: haha [12:28] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [12:28] look, it is the fire|ostridge!!! :-D [12:28] haha [12:28] spook: ic. radiation accident all over the us huh? [12:29] hey macavity, how's it going? [12:29] change|yourname [12:29] wd_ where were you born? [12:29] fire|bird: http://codgus.com/images/ostridge.jpg ;-) [12:29] wd_: what? all i heard was disposal coffin and thought radiation [12:29] wd_: would you rather the government be unprepared for natural disaster? [12:30] Quiznos: doesn't matter. i have family and friends. [12:30] Action: ViN86 hopes wd_ doesnt find out about chemtrails [12:30] hahaha [12:30] macavity: I sure was having a bad hair day that day. :P [12:30] wd_ (it most certainly DOES matter!!!) have you sent to govt for a copy of the legislation making you? [12:30] lol [12:30] gimp it so the fur/feathers becomes fire colors [12:30] Quiznos: ? making me? [12:31] Quiznos: i'm cloned? [12:31] macavity: hahaha, that could be done, yeah, but first I'm in a battle with my wifi router. :/ [12:31] wd_: no, you are just disturped [12:31] macavity: ok. i'll settle. [12:31] fire|bird: openwrt! ;-) [12:31] anyhow, time to go to a meeting [12:31] fire|bird: want me to grease up and wrestle it? [12:31] see you guys later on [12:31] later macavity, take care. [12:31] lataz [12:32] wd_ (n=wd@adsl-71-137-252-219.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:32] fire|bird: wired router ;) [12:32] ViN86: Um, nah, I'll handle it myself. :P [12:32] mmm cornetto [12:32] Action: ViN86 hopes he gets the go ahead from fire|bird to grease up [12:32] damn [12:32] fsckroot: It's for my laptop, the point of getting this one is to have wifi. :) [12:32] ViN86: Well, you can still grease up, it'd just be for your own personal reasons. :P [12:33] wow he left too soon [12:33] Action: ViN86 is happy [12:33] fire|bird: ohhh, I see. [12:33] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:33] Is it a feature for -current CD1 to lack fsck.ext3 or something? [12:34] nop [12:34] ccfreak2k: you mean the initrd? [12:34] in /sbin [12:34] spook, I mean when booting from the CD. [12:34] ccfreak2k: thats the initrd. [12:34] Ok. [12:34] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-143-244-17.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:34] that 30mb file has all the things like fsck.ext3 [12:35] fsck is there, but for some reason fsck.ext3 seems to be missing. [12:35] e2fsck? [12:35] is fsck ext4 there? [12:35] No. [12:36] e2fsck? [12:36] e2fsck is. [12:36] thats it [12:36] for 2 and 3 [12:36] and 4? [12:36] duno [12:36] What the....I can't even access the wifi router's web interface now. :/ [12:36] fire|bird: webinterface? sounds disgusting [12:37] spook: Well, the one when you go to the browser and type the ip to access the router settings, etc. [12:37] fire|bird: yeah really ugly. [12:37] spook: yeah, and right now, inaccessible. :P [12:37] fire|bird: still connected? [12:37] most linksys switch i've dealt with, their web interface only works in IE because theres broken javascript [12:38] spook: This is an ASUS, I had it accessed yesterday from FF, Opera, Konq, etc. without issue. [12:38] I have a basic Linksys WAP11 that works with Firefox. [12:38] try telnet or ssh :P [12:38] Not the prettiest thing to look at, though./ [12:38] fsckroot: Well, via wired I'm still connected, that's how I'm online right now. [12:38] ccfreak2k: this was a year or so ago. [12:39] Action: fire|bird scratches his head in disbelieve. :/ [12:40] spook: Well, I can get to it from FF, so I guess it was an opera issue. :P [12:41] poor opera so busy messing with ms that they dont have time to make a decent browser [12:41] I seen others on forums with the same issues I've had with this router and looks like dd-wrt fixed issues for them. Which would be better if I took that route, openwrt or dd-wrt? I know what macavity chose. :P [12:41] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [12:41] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [12:41] john_dee: Messing with Microsoft how? [12:41] Action: slackytude e opera [12:42] Nick change: chb -> chb|wm [12:42] slackytude: same here. :D [12:42] fire|bird: they want to make m$ ship other browsers than ie [12:42] bbl going to try to find something [12:42] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [12:42] Billtoo_ (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1279488427.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:42] josefig (n=JoseFig@201.164.80.4) joined ##slackware. [12:42] john_dee: really? whys that? [12:43] john_dee: Well, in Europe, you have your choice of what to get with M$, and, imo, Opera makes a very decent browser, I've used it since 6.x series. :) [12:44] ViN86: for healthier competition, i guess %) [12:44] fire|bird: howdy :) [12:44] howdy BP{k} [12:44] how goes? [12:44] john_dee: FF is doing a good job of that already heh [12:44] Billtoo_ (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1279488427.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3" [12:45] hello, I've got an HP G60-237nr Notebook and i installed slackware 12.2 but i have a question about the battery, what can I use to manage the frequency of the CPU and where can I download a script that when I unplug the AC cable the bright of the screen? [12:45] are you ppl living in a cave or something :p this is all over internets. special versions of windoze for europe. ballot screen to choose browser and all that boring stuff [12:46] v4nelle (n=van@adsl148-181.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:46] I am having real problems with getting this dm-crypt root partition to boot. [12:46] fire|bird: reasonably pissed off at the cluelessness from my ISP. [12:46] fire|bird: me too :) until opera 9 started freaking me out and doing that thing to ms along with mozilla foundation. i temporarely switched to chrome [12:46] anyone have any fukitol pills [12:46] I think I need to go and rape them with a cluenanas until they understand stuff. [12:46] BP{k}: Well, I'm pissed at my router, so I guess we're in a similar boat. :P [12:47] Action: BP{k} hands fire|bird some cluebananas ;) [12:47] If my /boot partition is /dev/sda1 should it be "boot= /dev/sda1" near the top of lilo.conf? [12:47] john_dee: I've been using opera 10 snapshots since they started coming out. :) [12:47] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:47] BP{k}: Thanks :) [12:48] ViN86: aye, they made a deal with opera to pick on m$. i still don't get how microsoft must listen to anyone about what to ship with their os [12:49] john_dee: capitalism is quickly fading away... [12:49] ViN86, it is? [12:49] ViN86: really? :D [12:49] lol no [12:49] john_dee: Well, I think many aren't too happy that all this time M$ *only* ships IE and wouldn't ship anything else at all with it. [12:50] im just being dramatic [12:50] Illegal root=specification /dev/mapper/root?? Mine should be exactly the same as Alien's http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware/README_CRYPT.TXT [12:50] fire|bird: 10 final is expected in less than a week. hope to see it being snappier than 9 [12:50] john_dee: believe me, it already is. :) [12:50] digifor no, that is your boot drive [12:50] A LOT faster [12:51] so boot=/dev/sda [12:51] john_dee: It's release is set for Sept. 1 [12:52] fire|bird: yep [12:52] That was how it was before and it still did not boot [12:52] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [12:52] josefig, for cpu freq you use the governors, for changing stuff depending on ac/battery look into acpi [12:53] digifor encryption's not for everyone, leave it alone. [12:53] fire|bird: but it's their system. it's an understandable point of view. make your own system, install your browser there and stop whining :p [12:53] In 2009 encryption on a laptop is mandatory for a lot of companies [12:53] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:53] so is being able to read a very clear howto [12:54] brb [12:55] apn (n=apn@194.217.4.175) joined ##slackware. [12:55] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@190.176.162.82) joined ##slackware. [12:55] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "hard reboot" [12:55] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Client Quit [12:55] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:55] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@190.176.162.82) joined ##slackware. [12:56] mancha screw you [12:56] tsk tsk [12:56] digifor (n=pjharper@122.252.178.224) left irc: "Leaving" [12:57] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:57] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [13:00] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:00] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:01] Kernel panic occurs after running e2fsck for a while. [13:02] thats bad [13:02] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [13:02] ok, so I have this oddity I discovered while trying to run sbopkg: sbopkg is at /usr/sbin/sbopkg (as seen by which), but when I run sbopkg, it errors saying it can't find it at /usr/bin/sbopkg, but it runs fine when using full path. how do I correct this lack of /usr/sbin in path? [13:03] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [13:03] (and how does one 'lose' /usr/sbin/ from path in the first place?) [13:04] add it to $PATH [13:04] sbin is usually not in normal user's path as they are admin-related binaries [13:04] how? [13:05] this is root's path [13:05] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "hard reboot" [13:05] well it certainly should be in root's path [13:05] unless you su'd withouth a dash [13:05] yeah, can't figure why it isn't (if it isn't) [13:05] I always su - [13:06] hmm [13:06] printenv | grep "^PATH=" [13:06] wolven (n=wolven@c509EBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined ##slackware. [13:06] there it is [13:06] how odd [13:07] Ah! [13:07] anyways, to add it, if not there, export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin [13:07] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [13:07] oh noes! [13:07] Tuxera signs IP deal with Microsoft [13:07] grepping bash history for user, I see that I didn't use a dash. one time in a zillion when I didn't [13:07] http://www.h-online.com/open/Tuxera-signs-IP-deal-with-Microsoft--/news/114094 [13:07] WHARGARRBL [13:08] slackytude, is that where ntfs-3g comes from/ [13:08] iyobe (n=iyobe@pool-74-96-34-212.washdc.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:09] ccfreak2k, yes [13:09] chb|wm (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:09] iyobe (n=iyobe@pool-74-96-34-212.washdc.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:10] spectre1 (n=kyle@41.210.144.97) joined ##slackware. [13:11] samuelig (n=samuelig@72.pool85-57-152.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [13:15] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-TWENTY-THREE.MIT.EDU) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:15] ViN (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-TWENTY-THREE.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [13:20] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:20] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:20] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189.69.19.87) joined ##slackware. [13:22] Nick change: ViN -> ViN86 [13:25] k ~ ŚčBMS - FmSnjOk/FmSnjOk - FmSnjOk ~ k [13:25] whoa [13:26] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [13:26] justin` (n=justin`@unaffiliated/justin) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:28] slackytude: gesundheit [13:28] hey, x11 sets the fontsize to impossibly small. where do i fix that? [13:28] haha [13:29] totally unreadble [13:29] BP{k}, schankedön [13:29] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [13:30] Quiznos: which apps? [13:30] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [13:30] only xfce is running [13:31] fontsize is only a few pixels tall [13:31] xfce has its own font setting for the environment [13:31] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:31] where? [13:32] I'm not on xfce currently, but it's under settings -> appearance, or some other obvious settings location :P [13:32] but none of the text can be read [13:32] a few pixels tall [13:33] xterm -fn 10x20 & [13:33] dimeave (n=oow@190.166.96.133) joined ##slackware. [13:33] ty but that doesnt help me [13:33] la mujerese [13:33] that'll at least give you a shell where you can read WTF you're doing, so you can look at config files or whatever [13:33] que lo que [13:33] dime a ve [13:33] ok [13:34] dimeave engrish please [13:34] (in case it's something you can't fix from the GUI I mean) [13:34] yea [13:35] hvera (n=hamilton@200.251.188.130) left irc: "Leaving" [13:35] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-216-222-251-92-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:37] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: Connection timed out [13:38] i think slack is imploding here [13:38] oh noes! [13:39] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-24-9.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:39] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [13:39] opera cant negotiate a common sec algo with comcast; so no https [13:39] wont play video or sound [13:39] i think a nvidia upgrade dun me in [13:40] before the nvid upgrade, x11 workd swimingly [13:40] well maybe i shouldnt say "slack imploding" [13:41] but it just seems like i'm always putting out fires [13:42] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:43] opera imploding isn't slackware's fault though (Pat doesn't make Opera...) [13:44] opera imploding? Opera's going strong. :P [13:45] I think opera suffers from mp3's just like the rest of the music industr [13:46] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-216-222-251-92-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [13:47] bunbum (n=server@189.82.1.97) joined ##slackware. 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[14:03] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:03] bbl [14:03] hm.. [14:03] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [14:04] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Client Quit [14:05] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [14:05] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [14:05] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:05] decoder for what? [14:06] a lot depends on the codec [14:06] ananke: h264, for example. the more formats it supports the better [14:06] what have you tried so far? [14:07] Action: ananke feels this will be yet another session of pulling teeth [14:07] john_dee: vlc..mplayer.. [14:07] If it lags terribly..put the files on faster media or get faster hardware [14:08] lag could come from many different places. considering we have _no_ details, don't expect us to be psychic :) [14:08] Action: john_dee looks around, prepares to run %) [14:09] " [14:10] still no input data [14:10] vlc lags. so does mplayer. files are on hdd. what can be faster.. [14:11] coreavc manages to decode 1080 avc videos fine, but it's win only [14:11] codecs, whatever comes with vlc and mplayer [14:11] define 'lags'. show us the output of 'vmstat 1' while you play video. show us your mplayer settings. give us data about your sytem specs [14:12] and have you tried vlc or mplayer under windows? if not, go do it now [14:12] sound not in sync with video. frames skipping [14:13] system - c2d 1.5ghz, 1gb, gf8400m g 128mb [14:14] well. same thing in windows with built-in vlc's codecs. switch to coreavc - plays smooth [14:15] well, then you're screwed. sounds like it's the software, not linux [14:15] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [14:15] :) [14:15] i know it's not linux [14:16] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-TWENTY-THREE.MIT.EDU) left irc: "bb" [14:16] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-144-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:16] it's slow-ass codecs like ffmpeg and company [14:16] ffmpeg aint slow [14:17] that's what i'm trying to find out. is there faster alternatives or can it be tweaked [14:17] are* [14:17] vlc/mplayer work fine [14:18] if they don't work in windows fine, then i doubt they'll be much better in linux [14:18] afaik, you shouldnt get different results with vlc in win or linux [14:18] oh, you dont [14:18] nvm [14:18] sounds like he gets the same results with vlc :) [14:18] yeah, misread that somehow [14:18] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [14:23] o_O coreavc for linux detected [14:23] tho, seems to be a wrapper for win version [14:23] :\ [14:26] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: "Leaving." [14:26] john_dee, heh, patches for mplyer to support corevac [14:28] slackytude: well, yeah, ugly. but as long as it works [14:36] SlackWeird (n=slackwar@unaffiliated/slackwared) joined ##slackware. [14:37] good day...... sunshine...... [14:38] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [14:40] laters [14:40] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [14:41] dimeave (n=oow@190.166.96.133) left irc: "Leaving" [14:41] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:41] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:43] srecko (n=srecko@93-136-212-64.adsl.net.t-com.hr) joined ##slackware. [14:43] dorin_ro (n=dorin@89.123.150.178) left irc: "Leaving" [14:44] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [14:44] ShamwowVideoProf (n=SHAMMY@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:44] im trying to burn slackware 64-current but i get /msg NickServ identify < [14:44] ah sorry. http://pastebin.ca/1543657 [14:44] lol [14:45] yeah i had the link copied first, then copied the message thing so.. yeah sorry [14:45] ShamwowVideoProf, there are current isos at slackware.no [14:46] are they... trust worthy? [14:46] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Connection reset by peer [14:46] meaning.. made by alienbob or someone like him [14:46] pretty much as the packages and all are still signed and md5sumed. [14:47] sounds good. im gunna go slack [14:47] Action: ShamwowVideoProf slacks off [14:47] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:48] ShamwowVideoProf, they also have the script to make isos [14:48] right [14:48] that dont work either [14:48] my system is uber crippled [14:48] slakmagik (n=j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) left irc: Client Quit [14:48] LFS :( [14:48] slackware should be easier than LFS [14:48] ch-b (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [14:48] It is [14:49] :) [14:49] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:49] antiwire1 (n=antiwire@97-94-111-202.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:49] Nick change: antiwire1 -> antiwire [14:49] Shadow, your thing should work, just make sure you're at the top level and maybe swithc to non utf8 locale? [14:49] Action: ShamwowVideoProf put about 6 months of effort into his current system [14:49] Action: ShamwowVideoProf blows it all away with his fart [14:49] o...k [14:50] shik4nt4z4 (n=shik4nt4@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [14:50] i heard patrick was in here 2 nights ago [14:50] correct, or somewhere around that time [14:50] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-204-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:51] Shadow, try mkisofs -o slackware-dvd.iso /tmp instead of your first line [14:51] shadow? [14:51] you mean Shamwow [14:51] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: [14:51] Action: ShamwowVideoProf tries it [14:51] buff's your car right up [14:51] haha [14:51] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC3047E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [14:52] I: -input-charset not specified, using utf-8 (detected in locale settings) genisoimage: No such file or directory. Invalid node - '-R'. [14:53] remove -R? [14:53] how do i switcht to ISO-9660 or whatever instead? [14:53] -R is for rock ridge boot records, iirc [14:54] loXx (n=loxx@unaffiliated/loxx) joined ##slackware. [14:54] switch to a non utf8 locale [14:54] ah i dont need that right? [14:54] how? [14:54] cmair (n=cmair@host56-111-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:54] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) joined ##slackware. [14:56] preface the command with LANG=en_US [14:56] [OpenSys] (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:56] ch-b (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [14:57] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [14:57] -R -J are invalid it says [14:57] is -A a fake command thing too? [14:58] it's just a text string labekl [14:58] this look right? http://pastebin.ca/1543672 [14:59] sure, try it, worst thing that happens is you get an error [14:59] no its not working [14:59] thats why i asked [14:59] well paste the error [15:00] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:00] Action: ShamwowVideoProf hates people like patrick who give false instuctions in READMES [15:00] genisoimage: No such file or directory. Invalid node - '-R'. [15:01] Then i remove -R -J -A then i get INvalid node Slackware linux or something [15:01] im downloading the iso now though so i dont care that much [15:01] show me the readme [15:01] loXx (n=loxx@unaffiliated/loxx) left ##slackware. [15:02] http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware64-current/isolinux/README.TXT [15:02] all those examples suck [15:02] you are the one screwing it up [15:02] look at your command. [15:02] i copied and pasted! [15:02] you left out the trailing . [15:02] .... [15:02] READ the README [15:02] i thought that was a period [15:02] ... [15:02] you fail. [15:02] for the end of sentence [15:03] FAIL [15:03] lol [15:03] hey be nice [15:03] no troll please [15:03] ah i get same error [15:03] nvm [15:03] did it wrong again LOL [15:03] ShamwowVideoProf (n=SHAMMY@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:04] antiwire: Do you use dd-wrt on your routers? I'm thinking of putting it on mine beings it's, well, not really working right and after reading some forums, looks like dd-wrt fixes the issues. [15:04] fire|bird: Yes [15:04] I run eko images though [15:04] antiwire: Well, this dang thing has 2MB of Flash so I need the micro version :/ [15:04] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:04] samuelig_ (n=samuelig@231.pool85-57-134.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [15:04] what model is it? [15:04] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:05] antiwire: ASUS WL-520GC [15:05] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [15:05] samuelig (n=samuelig@72.pool85-57-152.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:05] Sham, i flubbed it, go back to -o /tmp/whatev.iso pathspec is the file structure for 960 [15:05] Nick change: samuelig_ -> samuelig [15:05] 9660 [15:05] mancha: he's gone, thank god [15:06] he didn't even read the command properly [15:06] look back in the buffer a bit [15:06] my conn died, no scrollback anymore [15:06] antiwire: As it stands now, the router is broadcasting the signal, but the laptop doesn't see it to connect, however a windows app, network stumbler, does see it, but that app is just to see networks, not connect to them, and the handy windows thing to connect to wifi doesn't see it at all, nor does various live cd's I've tried. [15:07] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: No route to host [15:07] fire|bird: have you tried updating to most recent manufacturer firmware yet? [15:08] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [15:08] Actually, which version does it have right now? [15:08] antiwire: It's already the latest [15:08] 2.0.1.1 [15:08] for dd-wrt, looks like I need to downgrade to 2.0.0.8 first or it won't upload [15:08] when you say router is broadcastin then its a router/ap hybrid? [15:09] mancha: yeah, router/ap [15:09] so its sending beacons and your wireless card isn't picking it up? [15:09] hola, que tal [15:09] antiwire: I'd suspect signal strength issues, but the laptop and router are about 2.5-3 feet away from each other. [15:10] and, the app on windows sees the router, but nothing else will. :/ [15:11] you don't have A vs G vs N issues, do you? [15:11] Hello [15:11] =) [15:12] personally I would not use the image versions that this write up tells you to use http://www.sillychicken.co.nz/General/asus-wl-520gc-dd-wrt-firmware.html [15:12] mancha: I don't believe so. The router doesn't support N, neither does the laptop, the laptop is a/b/g and the router is b/g [15:13] fire|bird rebrief your prob pls? [15:13] antiwire: Which one's should I use? [15:14] Quiznos: router is broadcasting the signal out, an app on windows can see it, but I can't connect to it, built-in windows connection thing doesn't see it, wicd on live cd doesn't see it. :/ [15:14] slax and iwlist wlan0 scan seen it, but couldn't connect. [15:14] fire|bird did you chk the ridiculous basics? iptablesl, etc/hosts.deny, et al? [15:15] ifconfig -a? [15:15] route [15:15] my suggestion is to use wpa_supplicant in debug mode [15:15] hosts.deny is empty [15:15] k [15:15] mancha: from live cd I can do that, but the lappy still has windows on it. :/ [15:15] one sec [15:16] you don't want to use those older images if you can help it. they have an extremely bad bug [15:16] well i can't offer windows tech support [15:16] when and if you decide to switch to linux, i recomend wa_supplciant with -dd [15:16] mancha: haha, me either, I haven't used windows in ages. I just discovered today that I've been using slack for a tad over a year. [15:16] heh [15:17] mancha: Oh I WILL be switching to linux on it, but I was trying to salvage those programs off of the laptop, but I've been extremely unsuccessful. :/ [15:17] fire|bird so you have wifi router; how long have you had it? [15:17] Quiznos: I got it yesterday. :) [15:18] fire|bird pls return it for exchange. no one should fight this hard for pnp [15:18] you may be stuck using that suggested image though [15:18] say "it doesnt work for me. [15:18] Quiznos: From what I've read, I can get it working, I'm not gonna just return it that easy. I've been trying to image the laptop hdd for 3 weeks now, I DON'T give up. :) [15:18] adeodatus (i=RF@92.82.67.107) joined ##slackware. [15:19] fire|bird if a product does not perform as advertised, then return it. [15:19] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:19] adeodatus (i=RF@92.82.67.107) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:19] fire|bird say it's not working and get a another box [15:19] Quiznos: Just because I'm having issues, doesn't mean the product is defective necessarily. [15:20] fire|bird i think you're missing my point; it's no dishonor to you for not connecting to it [15:20] nowadays they make these things sorta foolproof, what brand/model is it? [15:20] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [15:20] fire|bird the particular box you have might be damaged from transport [15:20] mancha: ASUS WL-520GC [15:20] samuelig_ (n=samuelig@231.pool85-57-134.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [15:21] how did you get in to configure it? [15:21] have you done a full hard reset on it using the reset button, not just a power cycle [15:21] lan port? [15:21] antiwire: yeah [15:22] mancha: yeah, via web browser 192.168.1.1 [15:22] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-25-181-92.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:22] i have zippo experience with an asus, but netstumber see the beacons? [15:23] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-25-181-92.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:23] mancha: yeah, network stumbler sees it, but that app isn't designed to connect to them, just see them. The built in windows app that's used to connect doesn't even see it. [15:23] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [15:24] who linux systems see it using iwlist scan? [15:24] who/do [15:24] antiwire: slax seen it with that, yes. I'm on a linux mint cd on it right now, I'll check with that, sec. [15:25] sz^ (n=sz@a91-154-14-78.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [15:25] antiwire: mint returns, using iwlist wlan0 scan, No scan results [15:26] cmair (n=cmair@host56-111-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:26] haha, mint's terminal gave the message: Don't relax! It's only your tension that's holding you together. [15:26] As far as I can tell that device is broadcom based. [15:26] at this stage there's no way to know what is wrong, is it the router? your wireless nic? sunspots? etc. [15:26] fire|bird: what channel is your AP running on? [15:26] john_dee: 11 [15:26] I say sunspots [15:27] john_dee: I've tried every channel it has [15:27] antiwire: yes, it is. [15:27] I would use the generic eko micro images for broadcom [15:27] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:27] antiwire: Broadcom5354@240 [15:27] samuelig (n=samuelig@231.pool85-57-134.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:27] you need a working wireless card (one you know connects to stuff) or a wireless AP one that lets things connect to it to disccard which side is problematic [15:27] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-25-181-92.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:27] fire|bird: How easily can you take the unit back if it bricks? 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[15:28] fire|bird: You're not the only one saying that this model is a piece of shit [15:28] spectre1 (n=kyle@41.210.144.97) left irc: Connection timed out [15:28] there are posts all over describing this same issue [15:28] antiwire: Yeah, I see that, :/ [15:28] ethernet works fine, wireless is crap [15:29] dd-wrt images might help [15:29] I've been looking around myself for stuff [15:29] antiwire: yeah, that's why I was going to try dd-wrt, after reading some forums, looks like people have found success with that [15:29] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:29] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:29] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@190.176.133.144) joined ##slackware. [15:29] brb [15:30] no, stay ! [15:30] reminds me, I gotta make a long cat5 cable to run in here, quit using wireless [15:31] fire|bird: does it broadcast ssid at all? it does by default, but maybe somehow it got turned off %) [15:31] my bedroom was added on to the house, one wall has a window in it, the router's on the other side of the window [15:31] yo all [15:31] y0 people [15:31] srecko (n=srecko@93-136-212-64.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: "Leaving." [15:31] Action: agentc0re|work kills slackytude [15:31] :P [15:32] yoyo slackytude [15:32] Action: slackytude  [15:32] heya Camarade_Tux [15:32] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:32] haha, nice! what code is that? [15:33] if it sucks i'd return it and get a diferent brand/model than try to fix with 3rd party fw [15:33] slackytude: I had to speak about a Laender in german and ... hmmmm [15:34] kozandr (n=kozandr@81.95.131.133) joined ##slackware. [15:34] heh, think you made it? [15:34] agentc0re, no clue, copied it [15:34] that's code 271e [15:34] aka "SHADOWED WHITE LATIN CROSS" [15:34] I also had to speak about a french region, and since I knew I couldn't say much for a *french* region, I just gave up for the Land [15:34] heh [15:35] lol [15:35] geography aint my thing either [15:35] Camarade_Tux, so, that means a bad grade? [15:35] slackytude: nah, there were other questions hopefully [15:36] and remember, I can't fail, I need less than 5 out of 20 >< [15:36] fire|bird: these images will be safer to use. They have the http:// root command execution vulnerability fixed, however I do not know the proper flashing method for your device. I might need to VXWorks killer first. I'm not sure: http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/down.php?path=downloads%2Fothers%2Feko%2FBrainSlayer-V24-preSP2%2F08-19-09-r12672%2Fbroadcom/ [15:36] Camarade_Tux, 5 out of 20? [15:36] you play lotto or something [15:37] slackytude: only because I had like 13 (66 %) and that was 33% [15:37] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Connection timed out [15:37] slackytude: hmmm, in france, 20 out of 20 is the best mark possible [15:38] I can't remember which country gives grades the wrong way -_- [15:38] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:38] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-61-4-154.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] mrcheeseycheese (n=rhodri@host86-171-174-123.range86-171.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:39] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [15:40] Camarade_Tux, ah, ok [15:40] ok, back, john_dee, yes it broadcasts the ssid, I can see that with the network stumbler app [15:41] so you pass with 25%? [15:41] slackytude: so it's you, the germans, who are completely wrong ? [15:41] slackytude: 5*.33 + 13*.66 > 10 [15:41] antiwire: Well, looks like I first have to downgrade the asus firmware so I can upload dd-wrt to begin with, then looking the peacock thread, do the 30-30-30 reset stuff, etc. [15:42] Camarade_Tux, heh, probably. it's from 1 to 6. 1 being the best [15:42] Camarade_Tux, ah, so you need 50% and do it in two sessions? [15:42] antiwire: Out of that list in the link you gave, would I get micro-generic? [15:42] slackytude: two or more ... [15:43] slackytude: but yeah, 50% [15:43] and that's terribly because it breaks any motivation [15:43] http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/downloads/others/eko/BrainSlayer-V24-preSP2/08-19-09-r12672/broadcom/dd-wrt.v24_micro_generic.bin [15:43] you don't need to be good, you only need to be not too bad [15:43] which means you'll maybe work right before the exams and that's it [15:43] antiwire: ok, thanks. [15:43] DISCLAIMER: I take no responsibility of bricked routers [15:44] (saw the same comment on phdcomics.com btw) [15:44] Camarade_Tux, read all of phdcomic [15:44] These routers are all pieces of crap and the crap level just varies. [15:44] antiwire: hahaha, I wouldn't hold you responsible at all, if it becomes a $25 paper weight, it's all on me. :P [15:44] slackytude: he :P [15:45] Camarade_Tux, bah, you have it good. I got usually two or more lab sessions per week, which are mandatory. hardly ever time to learn until shortly before exams. on the other hand, lab is usually relevant so you do learn [15:45] fire|bird: got an extra router handy in case it does not go well? [15:45] fire|bird: I'm running that same revision on Fonera right now and it works fine but that is totally different hardware [15:45] Pig_Pen: no [15:46] antiwire: ok, I'll be trying this here in a bit, I'm going to get this desktop back to just connected to the modem for now so I still have net access while flashing the firmware [15:46] slackytude: I probably make studies in france sound awful but the thing is that during 2/3 years, we're used to work a *lot* and suddenly, we don't work much [15:47] (lot means people advise you against girlfriends) [15:47] antiwire: You've probably seen it before, but this is the thread I was looking at before: http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=51486 [15:47] Camarade_Tux, what do you mean suddenly dont work much? [15:47] i would do the ddwrt or tomatoe if the the website was more organized, i looked through the various builds for different routers & firmware versions and it looked like a mess to me [15:48] fire|bird: ok WAIT [15:48] stop [15:48] Action: fire|bird stops [15:48] Action: slackytude checks  [15:48] he stopped [15:48] i figure if they can not organize their website better they can not do good firmware either [15:48] lol [15:48] Action: quasar looks for a victim. [15:48] fire|bird: still working on that wireless? [15:48] lf4: yup [15:48] y0 lf4 [15:49] hey slackytude :) [15:49] slackytude: we have far less work than before, like 3 or maybe 4 (or more) times less so we're just like "I could do the whole year in a month" but we're too lazy to do it so we don't :D [15:49] quasar: eviljames [15:49] slackytude: How is everything going? [15:49] Camarade_Tux, ah ok. and what will you have when you are done? [15:49] k [15:49] lf4, fine, fine. still alive [15:49] lf4, how about you? [15:49] Action: quasar shoves a pound of C4 down eviljames' throat. (RAV#6) [15:50] slackytude: we'll see :P [15:50] Im doing alright, trying to remember how to add an admin account to vmware server :P lol [15:50] That post is talking about using the TNG builds [15:50] fire|bird: afair, netstumbler did show my ap, even though it was not broadcasting beacons [15:50] quasar: oh, btw, he's been away for weeks :D [15:50] Camarade_Tux, huh? [15:50] quasar: nah, make it 2 pounds, we want fireworks. [15:50] john_dee: Hmm, interesting [15:50] but i don't see your model mentioned in the first post. [15:50] fire|bird: i mean, there are 2 reasons for windows not to see ap. 1 not broadcasting. 2 not working %) [15:51] Camarade_Tux, I mean, do you get a degree or such? [15:51] Camarade_Tux, we already talked about this [15:51] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-25-181-92.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:51] fire|bird: youre using xp, right? [15:51] Action: slackytude curses his memory [15:51] Camarade_Tux: he'll have a nice surprise when he comes back then :) [15:51] antiwire: ok, so I don't follow that at all? [15:51] slackytude: yeah, degree, abitur+5 [15:51] john_dee: xp, yes. [15:51] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-25-181-92.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:51] Camarade_Tux, ah, right [15:51] Well it's talking about different models [15:51] quasar: we'll have *tons* of backlogs ;) [15:51] Camarade_Tux, +5 ? [15:51] john_dee: Well, that would explain why live cd's, etc. don't see it. [15:52] slackytude: 5 years after [15:52] Camarade_Tux, thats pretty long [15:52] the TNG images use different drivers than the links I posted. I don't know which is the correct one for your unit [15:52] fire|bird: also, i'd set nix options and ap to use 802.11g only. just in case [15:52] nix/nic [15:52] slackytude: yeah but hopefully the pay is ok [15:52] slackytude: the only thing I'm asking for is more work :D [15:52] heh [15:52] john_dee: I have the ap set to just that, how can I set that in xp? [15:53] you fool! [15:53] slackytude: :D [15:53] antiwire: ok, but the hard reset is good regardless of unit? good idea? [15:53] slackytude: as I told you, we're used to have a lot of work, but it wasn't for the work, it was for the things to learn: so many things to learn about and discover :) [15:54] hard reset prior to flashing, let the router sit for a while after flashing so it can do first_boot functions and then reset it again [15:54] fire|bird: device manager/network card properties/advanced [15:54] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [15:54] dirty windoze talk in #slackware oh, horror %) [15:54] antiwire: ok [15:54] john_dee: ok, thanks. [15:54] john_dee: I'm on another live cd atm, but will check that after a while. [15:55] fire|bird: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation#ASUS_WL-520GC [15:55] still, the image to use is not totally sure. I thin the links I posted will be fine but no one in #dd-wrt has answered me [15:55] so... [15:56] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [15:56] is there no news other than the death of some old guy? [15:56] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:56] the SP1 images that are mentioned everywhere is not good to use. they are buggy [15:56] the ntfs-3g dudes have an IP deal with MS now [15:57] antiwire: ok, worse that can happen is I'll brick the dang thing. :P [15:57] slackytude: deal as in suit or deal as in agreement? [15:57] good grief sidux makes their kde4 panel small. [15:57] samuelig_ (n=samuelig@231.pool85-57-134.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:57] antiwire, the latter [15:58] http://www.h-online.com/open/Tuxera-signs-IP-deal-with-Microsoft--/news/114094 [15:58] interesting [15:59] Action: slackytude nods [15:59] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [15:59] heh, sidux see's nothing either. They use a neat little wpa_gui app for scanning [16:00] i hadn';t realized ntfs-3g has a commercial side to it [16:00] me neither [16:01] brb [16:01] mancha: yeah, and the commercial version isn't as slow as the other one [16:02] wow, interesting [16:03] I hope this isnt bad [16:03] Action: slackytude e ntfs-3g [16:03] so linux provides free beta testers for the crippled version of the $$ product? [16:03] I wondered why it was so slow and then I found out about the commercial version and how the first thing they advertised was speed [16:03] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [16:04] ntfs-3g isnt slow [16:04] errrr [16:05] slackytude: it eats your cpu [16:05] it might not be the fastest but I wouldnt say its slow [16:05] i've also not noted poor performance, either speedwise or cpu hogging [16:05] but i don't use it much [16:06] hell, Id probably glad it exists even if it was slow [16:06] slackytude: time how long it takes to create a 1GB file on ntfs and on ext3/ext2/xfs/jfs/reiserfs [16:06] and check the cpu use [16:07] name me an alternative to ntfs-3g [16:07] for reading it's ok but for writing it's awful [16:07] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [16:07] slackytude: yeah, I'm using ntfs-3g too but it doesn't mean it doesn't suck [16:07] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:08] it doesn't ring true that they cripple their open source version [16:08] robo (n=robos@204.154.43.244) joined ##slackware. [16:08] fire|bird1 (n=fire|bir@173-18-59-216.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [16:08] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.130.228) joined ##slackware. [16:09] I do'nt know if they cripple it but I think they had the opensource code and didn't merge back the optimizations [16:10] hi: can anyone explain to me how NFS handles when two processes from separate machines try to edit the same file over an NFS mount? (probably not the right channel but i figure someone here knows. :-) [16:10] you've benchmarked the opensource and the commercial? [16:10] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:10] Nick change: fire|bird1 -> fire|bird [16:10] geno_ (n=geno@125-236-175-77.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [16:10] mancha: no, I don't have access to the commerical one but that's what I *GUESS* [16:10] robo, irc, there is no locking in NFSv3 [16:11] iirc [16:11] oh wow, this was all based on a guess? [16:11] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [16:11] bah, left [16:12] apn (n=apn@194.217.4.175) left irc: [16:12] their commercial linux one is advertised for embedded systems [16:12] but there is a reason: ntfs-3g definitely seems to lack some optimizations, it's like it's correct but nothing more [16:12] which has different tradeoffs when considering performance, so it's not neccessarily a crippled open source one for non-embededded performance [16:13] fred: on ntfs-3g.com, before it linked to tuxera, they were advertising a faster version [16:13] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:13] .org [16:14] http://www.ntfs-3g.org/performance.html [16:15] links to tuxera now [16:15] Meanwhile the Commercial NTFS-3G Driver focuses on the highest possible theoretical performance on the underlaying hardware architecture on the Linux platform and it provides 10-20 times better performance for instance by much higher throughput and/or much lower CPU utilization. [16:15] err, no, not this one, sorry [16:15] Camarade_Tux: also ntfs-3g advanced is mentioned as having performance benefits over the standard one but it also open source [16:15] slackytude: yeah, that [16:17] yarvin (n=yarvin@105-200-58-66.gci.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:17] fred: link? [16:18] mwnn (n=user@59.92.135.53) joined ##slackware. [16:18] Action: slackytude wants slack13, samba4 and zfs [16:18] gimme! [16:18] and ice cream ! [16:18] oh, yeah [16:18] with less spaces in the sentence [16:19] Action: rg3 wants 5 million euros, tax free [16:19] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:19] sell human parts :) [16:20] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [16:20] not your own, tho [16:21] snewp (i=slacker@unaffiliated/snewp) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:22] robo (n=robos@204.154.43.244) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [16:23] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "restarting" [16:24] mwnn (n=user@59.92.135.53) left irc: "ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" [16:25] john_dee: alright, I check the device manager, properties, etc. It was set on 802.11b only. :/ [16:26] josefig (n=JoseFig@201.164.80.4) left irc: Client Quit [16:26] Emeaudroide (i=1000@AMontsouris-158-1-49-207.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:26] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. 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[16:35] apoca (n=apoca@haydn.n2.nognu.de) returned to ##slackware. [16:37] l45t0n3 (n=fred@modemcable066.245-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:37] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] fire|bird: is this the name of the setting? [16:37] can anybody please point me to the slackware mysql setup...having a little memory blank except for mysql_install_db chown -R /var/lig/mysql lol [16:37] The name of the setting I changed is that IBSS one I typed above. [16:38] l45t0n3, read rc.mysql [16:38] fire|bird: you got some strange drivers there. is there "wireless mode" setting anywhere? [16:38] slackytude, really didn't know it was in that thanks =) [16:38] john_dee: No. :( [16:38] l45t0n3 (n=fred@modemcable066.245-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Client Quit [16:38] fire|bird: and what card is that already? :) [16:39] john_dee: Oh, sorry. :P, Broadcom 802.11 b/g [16:39] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-50-47.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:39] john_dee: I'm not on the live cd right now so can't get the lspci output [16:39] Has anyone else discovered that apache 2.0.13 lures you in with promises of never ending sweeties and cuddly toys, before gently rubbing its genitals against the back of your head and stashing you in a basement-cum-dungeon for twenty years fathering three generations of your progeny? [16:39] Zordrak, O_o [16:39] s/2.0.13/2.2.13/ [16:39] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [16:40] Zordrak, Im afraid to ask... [16:41] the fscking upgrade broke my install with no change to config [16:41] on slack? [16:41] this should be noobfarmed. its just sophisticated [16:41] s/just/just too [16:41] its whinging about SSL being asked for, but with no certificate defined.. because my certificates are stashed in the VHosts where theyre actually required [16:41] Zordrak: That has ALWAYS been my experience with apache. [16:41] john_dee: Would lspci output help? I can go grab that info. [16:42] some people have come acorss it, but no-one can pin down exactly what or where [16:42] fire|bird: never used that. all intels here [16:42] fire|bird: not really :) [16:42] john_dee: haha, ok. :P [16:42] (in this case its 12.1/patches) [16:42] john_dee: This card has been connected to wifi stuff before [16:42] hrm [16:42] but theres some debianers that suddenly found the upgrade shat on their cereal too, but others had no problem [16:42] hardpixel (i=0@189.83.43.24) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.120.253) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Zordrak: http://imagebin.org/61230 :P [16:42] john_dee: Not by me though, so I don't know any specifics of what networks, etc. [16:43] what command to erase a cd-rw on slackware? [16:43] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.2.201) joined ##slackware. [16:43] y0 agentc0re|work [16:43] agentc0re|work: :).. but you should s/0/2/ [16:43] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:43] john_dee: Well, I'll try this dd-wrt and hope for success. :) [16:44] The hactual error is: [error] Server should be SSL-aware but has no certificate configured [Hint: SSLCertificateFile] [16:45] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [16:46] kozandr (n=kozandr@81.95.131.133) left irc: No route to host [16:46] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:46] I'm running on a generator.. my town and the nearest town are without power [16:47] I guess my ISP must have battery power or something [16:47] [win 12 [16:47] ffs [16:49] "[" is pretty far from "/" :> [16:49] fire|bird: that's like killing a fly with a rocket launcher %) [16:49] thrice`: some people (like myself) have VERY fat fingers :) [16:50] thrice: armor and wand, right? [16:51] I usually end up giving in and grabbing the stylus from my Tungsten [16:51] john_dee: \o/ :P [16:51] fire|bird: why not try to connect to it as if it was hidden. i mean, create profile, etc. maybe it's the drivers. i'd go for trying default win drivers, if there are any. then try vendor's [16:52] well, then some livecd would see it [16:52] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.70.210) joined ##slackware. [16:52] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A74772.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] john_dee: I'm using default win drivers [16:52] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [16:53] thrice`: not when you're at home on the laptop's own keyboard when at work it is attached to an external keyboartd on a dock that has been re-arranged into dvorak-uk [16:53] ok, fair enough :) [16:53] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.120.253) left irc: "leaving" [16:53] john_dee: as if it's hidden? You mean create a connection in the Network Connections in windows? [16:54] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:54] fire|bird: yes [16:54] john_dee: I've tried that already too [16:54] fire|bird: you sure u set "broadcast ssid" to yes on AP? ^) and there's no mac filtering or something like that set up [16:54] john_dee: yup, I've even tried it with no passphrase, no security setup, etc. [16:56] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:56] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [16:57] uncheck "enable radio" maybe or something like that? i did that first time i got an ap. radio? wtf?! disable! and then realised it was wlan ^) [16:57] john_dee: tried that too. :) [16:57] aboyandhisrobot (n=ben@rrcs-67-78-3-246.se.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:00] dunno. upgrade firmware to latest official?! get that rocket launcher already :D [17:00] Gulug (n=sartori@201-95-17-37.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:00] john_dee: haha, firmware is already latest. [17:01] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora!" [17:01] not sure about 520, but in 500 there's a hidden page http://ip/Main_AdmStatus_Content.asp [17:01] check what ifconfig says there [17:02] \o/, I got that page too [17:03] john_dee: ok, I have br0, eth0, eth1, lo, vlan0, and vlan1 [17:04] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:04] hardpixel (i=0@189.83.43.24) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:04] fire|bird: looks like everything's in place :\ [17:04] john_dee: I guess I better get the rocket launcher [17:05] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-121.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:05] john_dee: the br0 does show an ip for Bcast:, that anything useful to try? [17:05] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A7734D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:06] fire|bird: wat? it must have a 192.168.1.1 ip [17:07] john_dee: yeah, it shows that ip too, but Bcast: 192.168.1.255 [17:07] fire|bird: same here [17:07] :) [17:08] john_dee: time for rocket launcher? [17:08] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:09] fire|bird: shoot it then %) [17:09] out of ideas atm [17:09] lol [17:09] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [17:09] john_dee: ok, I'll let you know if the the rocket launcher works. :) [17:11] fuzzbawl (n=fuzzbawl@216.23.240.13) left irc: "Leaving" [17:12] fire|bird: AP Mode set to AP Only in Wireless/Bridge? that is in web configuration [17:13] john_dee: yeah [17:13] dang [17:13] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:14] speaking of rockets, i have a cousin that used to raise game chickens (fighting chickens) and one day we were getting buzzed on some beer and some herb, and i took out a package of bottle rockets out of my pickup and we sat about 50 yards away from the chicken coop where he kept those fighting chickens and shot bottle rockets at them, they were freaking out [17:15] hahahaha [17:15] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [17:15] were they? chickens! :D [17:15] IceW (n=sartori@189-19-153-171.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Connection timed out [17:16] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) joined ##slackware. [17:17] john_dee: heh, now the thing is just sitting there with the power light blinking (haven't done anything with firmware, this is just after a reset) :P [17:18] wat it doesn't boot up? [17:18] i'm afraid to ask but... how do you tell slackpkg not to upgrade all the x/ packages? [17:18] in the blacklist, i mean? [17:18] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [17:18] s/\?//; [17:22] john_dee: this is the router, and no, it just sits there blinking. :P [17:22] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.214) left irc: [17:23] do i really have to add all the x packages? >.> [17:24] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.2.201) left irc: "Leaving" [17:25] mrcheeseycheese (n=rhodri@host86-171-174-123.range86-171.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:25] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.70.210) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [17:25] durp, ya know, sometimes 4hrs of sleep is not a good idea when trying to figure out slackpkg [17:25] fire|lol u killed it without any rockets? that's a pro :) [17:26] Necos: I'm not sure, but I believe so, yes. :) [17:26] john_dee: \o/ [17:26] Necos: not updating x/ is a bad idea from 12.2 -> 13.0 [17:26] hey thrice`, how's it going? [17:26] 12.1 -> 12.2, and i already have a newer version of x than 12.2 [17:26] fire|bird: good, you ? :) [17:27] thrice`: doing great, just messing with my wifi router, and I think I just killed it. :/ [17:27] Whoops, nope, it's alive [17:27] john_dee: It's going now, does that mean I'm NOT a pro? :P [17:28] john_dee: alright, here goes the rocket. :) [17:28] :))) [17:28] fire|bird: ... wtf? put your red rocket away! [17:28] haha [17:29] fire|bird: dd-wrt? [17:29] agentc0re|work: get the drone away from me. Dang it, now you know the colors of my rockets. [17:29] john_dee: yeah [17:29] fire|bird: OOOohhh pink.. [17:29] agentc0re|work: don't ask about that one. :/ [17:30] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:30] agentc0re|work: you wouldn't believe me if I told ya. :P [17:30] Necos: ah, ok; sorry, i'm not a slackpkg user, but I know it can usually accept entire sets :( [17:31] aboyandhisrobot (n=ben@rrcs-67-78-3-246.se.biz.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:31] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.65.123) joined ##slackware. [17:31] fire|bird: Maybe not, but it still could be an interesting story. Stinky Pinky anyone? [17:31] hahahahaha [17:32] Action: fire|bird sends a UAV helicopter in agentc0re|work's direction. :) Complete with Hellfire missiles. :) [17:32] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] heya hitest [17:33] Action: agentc0re|work is wearing a tinfoil hat, RDIF FTW! [17:33] hey fire|bird:) how are you, man? [17:33] hitest: great, thanks. you? [17:33] I am well, ty:) nice sunny day finally up here [17:33] agentc0re|work: tin foil hat is no match for a bird of fire and a hellfire missile. :D [17:34] hitest: good to hear. It's sunny here too, suppose to get to 78F [17:34] fire|bird: but you cannot find me while i wear my magic hat! [17:34] \o/, dd-wrt is now on the router [17:34] john_dee: I didn't brick it. [17:34] good jerb fire|bird. [17:35] fire|bird: nice. not as warm here, probably low 60s, but, better than yesterday's RAIN:) [17:35] hitest: yeah, I hear ya, it hasn't been the nicest past few days here either, rainy, dreary, etc. [17:35] and windy [17:35] yeah, I'll take all the sun I can get now [17:36] Oh man, dd-wrt is WAY nicer than asus firmware. :D [17:37] fire|bird: you gotta be VERY talented to brick it this way ^) [17:37] john_dee: :D, Well, I should be alright then. :) [17:37] john_dee: dd-wrt is awesome [17:38] agentc0re|work: gee, thanks. jerb: A job belonging to a redneck. :) [17:40] fire|bird: I'm sorry, i have you confused with Phoenix' :P [17:40] lol [17:40] heh [17:42] lol, looking at http://wigglit.ath.cx/slackware_stats2/ [17:43] edman007 is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 52 times. has a funny example and then, Poor root, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 17 times. has a tag-a-long example to go with edman's. [17:43] root has been associated with jeev actually ;) [17:43] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@190.176.186.216) joined ##slackware. [17:43] Camarade_Tux: I know. this is the example i see:      * agentc0re slaps jeev [17:44] Not sure if examples are random.. but i found that funny because edman's was,      * edman007 slaps agentc0reWORK [17:44] hehe. [17:44] ^^ [17:44] hehe :P [17:44] I cant belive its slackytude2 in that list [17:44] dont see slackytude at all [17:45] I'm not sure why agentc0re1 is in the list.. is that how my names shows to you all? [17:45] Not my work, but my other nick. [17:45] Tyrael (n=tyrael@c89089.upc-c.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:45] agentc0re|work: no, it doesn't show a 1 at all here. [17:45] Action: agentc0re|work shrugs [17:46] ^^ [17:46] does anyone use lvm, and have a separate /home partition ? [17:46] thrice`: i do. [17:46] agentc0re|work: on "mount", I notice that my "/" is named /dev/mapper/root, but my "/home" falls elsewhere (and not /dev/mapper) - do you notice that too ? [17:47] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:47] hey. anyone had any luck with blender on slack64 current? runs but doesnt think python is installed [17:47] thrice`: in fstab? [17:47] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [17:47] agentc0re|work: nope, just 'mount' [17:47] thrice`: oh. I think i remember it showing like that. [17:47] shpendk (n=shpendk@80.80.162.252) left irc: Connection timed out [17:47] I get /dev/mapper/root for one, and /dev// or something for /home [17:48] thrice`: My MB died on that PC.. and so i am waiting for my RMA, or i could tell you for sure. It's just the mapper dev, and it's because it's entered in fstab that way. [17:48] you could change it to /dev/VG/LV [17:48] It'd still work. [17:49] it does still work, actually; just curious as to why it does that. fstab dictates them differently [17:50] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@194.65.138.120) joined ##slackware. [17:50] thrice`: I used lvm when I used Fedora, and iirc, that's how it worked then too, /home didn't fall under /dev/mapper) [17:51] Action: slackytude2 goes off [17:51] see ya [17:51] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A74772.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: """ [17:51] They are just mapped devices is all. if you do a ls -lh on the /dev/VG/LV and the /dev/mapper/LV they should have the same.. oh crud i forget the name.. it's the numbers after the group. [17:52] thrice`: minor number. [17:53] agentc0re|work: so, why not use it on slack, too? or did oyu not have a use for it [17:53] thrice`: I use LVM on slack. [17:53] For the reference of others, I fixed apache [17:53] oh, oops, was looking at fire|bird's response [17:54] thrice`: I was upgrading to current and my motherboard died... [17:54] OH, heh. [17:54] ouch :( [17:54] I have had cookie issues with using search domains so i use vhosts such as foo that JUST redirect to foo.example.com [17:54] Zordrak: Ah. [17:54] however, cause theyre irrelevant.. these vhosts are nothing but a ServerName and a Redirect [17:54] that was never an issue before [17:54] fire|bird1 (n=fire|bir@173-18-61-117.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [17:54] but now it demands that you set all the valid SSL options in that vhost [17:55] What happened you apache? You used to be cool. Now you're getting me down like the man. [17:57] chthp (n=Christia@213-66-224-97-no22.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:57] hello [17:59] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:01] chthp (n=Christia@213-66-224-97-no22.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware. [18:02] chthp (n=Christia@213-66-224-97-no22.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:02] chthp (n=Christia@213-66-224-97-no22.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware. [18:02] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.130.228) left irc: "Leaving." [18:02] mrcheeseycheese (n=rhodri@host86-171-174-123.range86-171.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:03] Zordrak: i think mine is doing the same.. i ignore them. [18:03] chthp (n=Christia@213-66-224-97-no22.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:04] chthp (n=Christia@213-66-224-97-no22.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware. [18:05] josteint (n=josteint@84.215.36.243) left irc: "leaving" [18:06] ahah... [18:06] Zordrak: [warn] Init: You should not use name-based virtual hosts in conjunction with SSL!! [18:06] agentc0re|work: google Server Name Indication [18:06] Zordrak: is that what you're getting? [18:06] yes.. always has [18:06] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [18:06] just this moment discovered there may be a solution [18:06] reading about it now [18:07] that error has always been there cause it breaks the SSLv2 PKI style of one host per service [18:07] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.32.108) joined ##slackware. [18:07] but the anal-retentive attention to detail about having to have all the directives is just a 2.2.13 thing [18:08] limac (n=chatzill@ool-45745802.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] mrcheeseycheese (n=rhodri@host86-171-174-123.range86-171.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:09] yeah. try dealing with mono/.net and ssl, you'll learn the new definition of 'anal-retentive' [18:09] http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/NameBasedSSLVHostsWithSNI [18:09] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too w [18:09] ananke: Or KY... :P [18:09] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:10] it's totally win-win: [18:10] The following combinations do not support SNI: [18:10] [edit] Client-side [18:10] * Windows XP and Internet Explorer [18:11] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:11] hi [18:11] alphad64: hello [18:12] rorro (i=home@r190-135-159-131.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) joined ##slackware. [18:12] limac (n=chatzill@ool-45745802.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:12] windows 7 rules, slackware sux... [18:13] rorro, you know it [18:13] [18:13] y0 LnxSlck [18:13] rorro, now go back to your rock [18:13] hey fire|bird1 [18:13] bah, fire|bird1, what's with the 1. [18:13] :P [18:14] rorro (i=home@r190-135-159-131.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:14] xxjx (n=xxjx@unaffiliated/xxjx) left irc: "\o\ /o/ \o/" [18:14] haha, he didn't last long [18:14] loool [18:14] Nick change: fire|bird1 -> fire|bird [18:14] some guys are just weird [18:14] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-144-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:15] LnxSlck: indeed they are. [18:15] fire|bird: so that rocket made your router change it's ways or what? %) [18:15] fire|bird, look at this at #ubuntu [18:15] fire|bird, ok - how can i run my ubuntu faster and smoother ? [18:15] fire|bird, cmp, install slackware [18:15] fire|bird, lnxslck, how can i install what you said ? [18:15] lool [18:16] john_dee: Not sure yet really, right now it isn't, but I'm going to bump up the power, it's only at 71mW [18:16] LnxSlck: hahaha [18:16] LnxSlck: you're in Ubuntu right now? [18:16] john_dee: I do know that I LOVE dd-wrt :D [18:16] fire|bird, yes [18:16] LnxSlck: I am too now. :) [18:16] fire|bird, i was trying to get my graphic card to extend to an external monitor [18:16] fire|bird, no luck untill now [18:16] I could use some entertainment :) [18:17] lool [18:17] LnxSlck: saying Ubuntu Sucks, Slackware Rules, would probably get a ban from #ubuntu. :P [18:17] fire|bird: what power? stop playing with large hadron collider and fix your router! :)) [18:17] Wow, it's quiet in there compared to some days. [18:17] john_dee: Tx Power [18:17] fire|bird, i didn't said it sucks.. i just adviced to install slack [18:18] LnxSlck: I wasn't referring to that, I was just saying that in general. :) [18:18] fire|bird, yeap [18:18] LnxSlck : yay. bragging about being a troll. good job [18:18] ananke, whos bragging ? [18:18] Action: ananke gives LnxSlck an honorary badge of douchebaggery [18:18] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:19] ananke, i was just kidding.. no harm done [18:19] Ubuntu sucks! Slackware Rules! there i said it, and i dont give a damn what anyone thinks [18:19] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:21] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [18:21] http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2009/03/computerdeskscom-wat.html :D [18:21] =) [18:21] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-144-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:23] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:23] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [18:23] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [18:25] Camarade_Tux: there are a lot of disasters at that website, some of those submissions are hilarious on the front page [18:25] yeah ;p [18:27] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:28] kator (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-144-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:28] just out of couriasity what do slackware users think of ubuntu ? [18:29] kator: We don't care about ubuntu :) [18:29] lf4: c'mon now, don't hide your love for the *buntu Family. :) [18:30] fire|bird: Tis true... I use it at work on one of the systems. >:| lol [18:31] even Redhat-based distros do things that they should not do that Slackware does not, and Ubuntu-based distros do things that they should not do that Redhat-based ones do not [18:32] Emeaudroide (i=1000@AMontsouris-158-1-49-207.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:32] lf4: haha [18:32] john_dee: Bah, I'm still not really getting anywhere. :/ [18:33] dchmelik: what does redhat ubuntu etc.. do that slackware does not ? [18:33] Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) joined ##slackware. [18:33] good evening gents [18:33] fire|bird: Whats the matter now? [18:33] lf4: dd-wrt on the router and still no wifi on the lappy. :/ [18:34] has anyone had problem with a touchpad (note/netbook/laptop) no longer working to "click" after upgrading to -current? [18:34] fire|bird: must be a PEBCAK issue :P [18:35] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:35] fire|bird: Are you saying the laptop cant see the router? [18:35] lf4: pretty much, yeah, except one app on windows called Network Stumbler. :/ [18:35] Kenjiro: well-known problem, check CHANGES_AND_HINTS.txtx to see if synaptics is working well, THEN configure the "tapping" feature with HAL in /usr/share/hald/fdi/policy/10osvendor/synaptic* [18:36] lol there's your problem... wincows. j/k humm that is really odd. Have you manually configured the wireless in windows? [18:36] dchmelik: just curious :) [18:36] lf4: yeah, tried that. :/ [18:36] Kenjiro: then copy this edited-file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy so it won't be overwritten when you update hal [18:37] lf4: not even a live cd sees it [18:37] appzer0: aaaaaaah, thanks will read that [18:37] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.65.123) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:37] sry for english [18:38] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [18:38] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] fire|bird: That is really odd, and DDWRT is using the most basic settings correct? [18:38] greetings and salutations [18:38] lf4: yeah [18:38] Hello andarius [18:38] greetings andarius, how are you? [18:39] salutations fire|bird, well. you ? [18:39] fire|bird: can your laptop discover other networks? [18:39] andarius: doing alright, thanks. [18:39] lf4: wired ones [18:39] There aren't any other wifi ones around to discover [18:40] fire|bird: Haha I meant wireless AP's [18:40] fire|bird: Oh that stinks. Go war driving, it sounds like your laptop is having issues. [18:40] lf4: yeah, I figured, that's why I said there aren't any other wifi ones around. [18:41] good grief, what kind of rant is winter (##slackofftopic) going off on now. :P [18:41] lol fire|bird I just saw that [18:41] that guy's insane [18:41] Haha yeah but its so funny to watch him just go off on random things. [18:42] kator, redhat-based distros do not let you do something like 'rm -rf'--it forces a prompt for *every single file* [18:42] ubuntu-based ones might do that, but they make it hard for you to even use root [18:43] dchmelik: oh wow didn't know, nah in ubuntu sudo -s gives you root like any other distro :P [18:44] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:44] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [18:44] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:45] dchmelik: but the bad thing is that the root password is hidden from you [18:46] kator, i did not see what you wrote earlier [18:46] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [18:47] dchmelik: oh you mentioned ubuntu might make it hard to use root it does kinda you can su with sudo -s but the root password is hidden from you [18:48] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [18:49] frk (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [18:50] sudo su [18:50] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-144-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:51] Pig_Pen: that too :P [18:51] what is the offtopic channel? [18:51] dchmelik: ##slackwareofftopic [18:51] ##slackofftopic* [18:51] sorry [18:53] no, it is #ubuntuisevilandwillturnyourbrainintojellopudding [18:55] mmmmm....pudding [18:55] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [18:56] http://seenonslash.com/node/3703 [18:57] thats a cool website, i visit seenonslash regularly [18:57] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] josefig (n=JoseFig@189.129.224.35) joined ##slackware. [18:59] bbl [18:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:03] hm [19:03] i have a huge headache [19:03] who knew exercising makes you so tired [19:03] may need water [19:03] hi missyjane [19:04] greetings missyjane [19:08] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: "Command not found." [19:09] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [19:18] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) joined ##slackware. [19:19] kator, i thought ubuntu sometime says you cannot login as root [19:19] fire|bird: if it was ap i think wrt would have fixed it [19:19] john_dee: yeah, so laptop issue? [19:20] fire|bird: looks like it, doesn't it? [19:21] john_dee: yup, and by chance, do you know the max pass length for dd-wrt, I've locked myself out of it. :/ [19:21] that'd be funny if it's like a wireless switch on a lappy set to off or something like that [19:21] ^) [19:21] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:21] lol [19:22] fire|bird: not sure. locked out how? so long that it doesn't fit in passford box? %) [19:22] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.71.131) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:23] john_dee: Well, I didn't pay enough attention, I put my password in, too long apparently, so it didn't use it all, but if I know what the max length is, I can cut it back to that and get back in. [19:24] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@114-45-227-185.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:25] john_dee: I suppose I could just reset it, I have my config backed up. :P [19:25] fire|bird: haha. lol. build a cluster to bruteforce it :D [19:25] haha [19:25] john_dee: See, now I DO need the LHC. :P [19:26] Action: quasar wants to share CPU cycles between his computers :\ [19:27] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: ""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."" [19:27] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:27] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [19:28] bah, reset didn't work [19:28] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-160-168-204.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] fire|bird: how long is too long? [19:31] 10" [19:31] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.23.183) joined ##slackware. [19:31] o_O [19:32] straterra: we're talking passwords here, man. go back to #pron ;p [19:32] jessen (n=jessen@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) joined ##slackware. [19:32] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:33] I was talking about a video card..pervert [19:33] :D [19:33] When slack 13 comes out, could I compile and use the x/ packages from 12.2? I want to downgrade so that I can use the fglrx driver. [19:33] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:35] yes, although it's a pain in the ass [19:35] and you're calling me a pervert?! lol [19:35] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:36] alicephilippa (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:36] yes i am [19:36] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [19:36] Necos, I just run the slackbuild script and upgradepkg everything, right? What's hard about that? [19:37] ever heard of "oh, my god?! why the hell did i ever think about compiling X?" [19:37] taper (i=taper@123.88.212.116) joined ##slackware. [19:38] nachox, no... I thought the slackbuild scripts would have streamlined everything. I'm just trying to think ahead and decide whether it's worth upgrading. [19:38] messing with the base system like that is a bad idea [19:39] i'd wait for fglxr before upgrading [19:39] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [19:39] and guys, grow up a bit, will you? no name calling here, this is a technical help channel [19:40] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [19:40] you could technically use slackpkg [19:40] and blacklist everything except x [19:41] oh but fglrx 9.3 is already incompatible with the slack 13 kernel... maybe I'll just stick with 12.2 until radeonhd improves a bit more. [19:42] john_dee: The max pass is 22 :P [19:42] by the time i downgrade the kernel and X, i'm sure to have broken something [19:45] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@190.176.186.216) joined ##slackware. [19:45] fire|bird: too short for a real paranoid %) [19:45] john_dee: yeah, the one I was trying to use was 50 329bit :) [19:45] O_O [19:46] haha [19:46] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [19:47] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.114) joined ##slackware. [19:48] ok, a bit of reading helped to fix the touchpad issue [19:49] too bad my left button (touchpad) is not working (since today) [19:49] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:363) joined ##slackware. [19:49] damn... will have to take it to maintenance :( [19:49] trone (n=sim@host248-62-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [19:49] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:53] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:54] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: Client Quit [19:54] Kenjiro: you broke your damn laptop and you blamed slackware? :P [19:54] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:55] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:56] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:56] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:58] :( Dominick Dunne died [19:58] who's he? [19:59] Necos: noooo [19:59] author, journalist and host of a tv series [19:59] Necos: the "Tap" thing on the touchpad stopped working when I upgrade to slack-current (already fixed that by reading some stuff) [19:59] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-25-181-92.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:59] but TODAY, the left button stoped working out of the blue (it was working) [20:00] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:00] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-25-181-92.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [20:00] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) joined ##slackware. [20:00] Polycarbonate (n=Polycarb@41.196.203.230) joined ##slackware. [20:01] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] quasar apparently died of a bladder infection? [20:02] if true, cranberry juice would have cleared that up; too bad doctors dont know. [20:02] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] another preventable illness kills. [20:03] I heard that Quiznos died, apparently someone mistook him for a sub sandwich and ate him. [20:03] Polycarbonate (n=Polycarb@41.196.203.230) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:04] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "leaving" [20:05] jiraia (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:463) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:06] someone had issues with strigi? [20:06] does it take AGES to index stuff? [20:06] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:06] (AGES as in days) [20:07] depends on how much stuff you have in /home [20:10] fire|bird: just a minute... [20:10] 75GB [20:11] that's on my netbook. [20:11] that will take a while [20:11] but then... on my desktop I have ... hmmmmm about 200GB. I let the computer ON the whole night... and it indexed only 2.3GB [20:11] that's what I am talking about [20:12] I would expect it to have indexed at least 30GB since yesterday [20:12] yeah, 200G is A LOT to go through, it will take a while [20:12] fire|bird: I bet tracker would index all that much faster [20:13] ok, I don't know if strigi has more capabilities then tracker [20:13] taper (i=taper@123.88.212.116) left ##slackware ("™\»†"). [20:14] fire|bird: right now I was checking strigiclient... and it tells me it is idling [20:14] now I know why it won't finish indexing all my stuff. It stops indexing out of the blue [20:14] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:363) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:17] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:20] i use ls to index everything [20:20] RipVanWinkle: ls? hehehehe [20:20] taper (i=taper@123.88.212.116) joined ##slackware. [20:21] sure, ls -r > index.txt [20:21] taper (i=taper@123.88.212.116) left ##slackware ("™\»†"). [20:22] make that a -R [20:22] right... the I guess that by "grepping" that index.txt you can also find out which file has the string "webcam is not working" (just an example) [20:22] *then I guess... [20:23] naw, i dont have a webcam [20:23] >.> [20:23] you could grep for whatever you needed to though [20:24] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@kami.via.ecp.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:24] Kenjiro: you do realize that it's also generating meta-data for its database, right? [20:24] so, to compare it to ls -R >index.txt is a gross understatement [20:25] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:27] taper (i=taper@123.88.212.116) joined ##slackware. [20:27] let the damn indexing run and stfu :P [20:27] Necos: if it doesn't stop indexing all the time... [20:28] 75GB could be a few hundred thousand files easily [20:28] It is indexing files for DAYS already. (only yesterday I decided to let the computer on till today to try and speed up the process, to no avail0 [20:28] is it evil like microsoft's FindFast? [20:28] did you ever think about that? [20:28] Necos: I would also think that on a QuadCore the process should be a little faster, even with all the I/O involved [20:29] my ass [20:29] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:29] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [20:29] quad core has shit to do with disk i/o [20:29] it's called the limitation of a hard drive [20:29] Necos: I know that [20:29] Nick change: Quiznos -> ElmerJFudd [20:30] taper (i=taper@123.88.212.116) left irc: Client Quit [20:30] taper (i=taper@123.88.212.116) joined ##slackware. [20:30] if most of the indexing is about I/O, then I understand the "slowness" of the process [20:30] it is [20:30] so give it a rest and stop bitching :P [20:30] pi31415 (n=bcollver@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "yawn" [20:31] I will do the following... I will leave the computer on again tonight and check the resulto tomorrow (I doubt it will have reached 10GB of indexing). [20:31] Then I will reinstall tracker and give it a go. I do bet it will be MUCH FASTER [20:31] *results [20:32] you ever wonder why updatedb runs at 4am? [20:33] Necos: I didn't even touched my computer the whole day, till about... 2 hours ago [20:33] so it had more than 12h of "idling" [20:33] far more than that [20:34] here's an idea... [20:35] ls -R >indext.txt && cat index.txt | wc -l [20:35] or simply 'ls -R | wc -l" ? ;) [20:36] needless cat abuse :o [20:36] ahahahaha [20:36] ok, hold on [20:36] "-a" [20:36] I'm curious what it takes to run 32-bit linux apps on an installation of 64-bit slackware-current. Any tips? [20:36] actualy -A [20:37] no ya dorks... the size of the index.txt would be more interesting :P [20:37] Necos: ehehehhe [20:37] adamk_: most of them just run adamk_ [20:37] still needless cat abuse [20:37] andarius: never... cat needs to do some work... it's been sitting around idle most of the day :P [20:37] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-61-43.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:38] wasting resources however small is a bad habit to get into :P [20:38] Nick change: AnonymousRednek -> nyRednek [20:38] you have to show cat who's boss ^_~ [20:38] i killed it, i know. that is all that counts [20:38] Nick change: ElmerJFudd -> Quiznos [20:38] Necos: or else we should simply not install it (cat) hehehehe [20:38] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [20:38] Necos, Statically linked apps seem to work fine here, but nothing dynamically linked. I'm guessing that I'd need to install 32-bit library packages to support these apps. [20:39] andarius: the next time you kill a cat, i'm going to have to charge you [20:39] taper (i=taper@123.88.212.116) left ##slackware ("™\»†"). [20:39] Necos: get ready for a lot of charging and a lot of failure to pays [20:39] yes adamk_... i don't use 64-bit, but that'd be my guess [20:39] Necos: 187271 files [20:40] 75GB could be a few hundred thousand files easily <--- see what i mean? [20:40] 178GB <--- ;) [20:40] hello happy people [20:40] bleh... Kenjiro... die [20:40] Action: Kenjiro will start compiling and packing tracker right away [20:40] bahh, stop sniveling until you have a few tb :P [20:41] http://www.pastebin.ca/1544086 [20:42] good enough andarius? :P [20:42] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:43] http://www.pastebin.ca/1544088 :P [20:43] lol [20:43] you got the 1.5s [20:43] you surely have more used, though keep in mind this machine is new. my last server was stolen :( [20:43] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [20:45] (1) 160GB and (2) 750GB drives in this box... this isn't a server tho [20:45] someone have a n810? [20:45] the numbers i posted are my home server [20:45] as built for 600$ [20:46] oh, this is just my work computer :P [20:46] gn8 [20:46] but to be honest, i store a lot of ghost images on here [20:46] alphad64 (n=alphad64@41.189.32.108) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:46] vmware images, etc... [20:46] mine is all anime, movies and music with a few exceptions and my backups [20:47] my stolen machine had two 500 gb drives near full. all taken :( [20:47] oh, anime and music do make up a nice chunk of this box [20:47] andarius: and where were your ninja chipmunks? :P [20:47] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [20:47] the ninja penguins ate them, then came with me on the road trip :P [20:48] you failed :P [20:49] should have left those fuckers at home lol [20:49] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:49] i wanted to, but one is not wise to argue with a ninja penguin [20:49] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: [20:50] wise is a matter of relativity :P [20:50] well, i still have all my appendages ;) [20:50] lol [20:51] just something amusing about my home server... [20:51] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:51] http://pastebin.ca/1544096 [20:52] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [20:52] nice p3 [20:52] and http://pastebin.ca/1544097... talk about classic [20:53] andarius: Shit dude, how'd they steal it? Someone break into your house? [20:53] heya agentc0re [20:54] yo Necos. [20:54] agentc0re: yup, used a crowbar to open the front door [20:54] damn... how'd they know you were gone? [20:55] note sure. occured at about 1 am [20:55] (cable modem went offline) [20:55] andarius: Ah shit.... [20:55] aye, got my server, firewall, cable modem, router/ap, kb/mouse and misc hardware [20:55] that's lame dude... god knows whatelse is missing. [20:56] Oh you've been back since the theft. [20:56] yeah, this was back in Feb or so [20:56] you need a motion sensing Gatling gun. [20:57] proxy mines :) [20:57] or to convince those damn penguins to stay home [20:57] ;) [20:57] the latter being the easiest [20:58] andarius: would be nice if there was an easy way to spider the internet for a "last seen this MAC address" [20:59] it would. i thought about the cable modem mac and the servers. my ISP refused to notify me if one showed up [20:59] ... [20:59] oh wow... [20:59] USC has a slackware mirror now :) [20:59] they were confused as hell when i asked them to tell me when i went off line though :) [21:00] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [21:00] 1MB/s ftw [21:00] andarius: Just attach gps units to your stuff so if something horrible like this happens again, you can track em down. P [21:01] and break their kneecaps [21:01] requires some type of reporting medium. not so easy... trust me i have considered it for the new gear [21:01] Gastion (n=alexande@c160.a109.sto.bahnhof.net) joined ##slackware. [21:02] andarius: yeah, I'm sure you have, that really sucks to have stuff stolen, no less your home broken into. [21:03] aye, funny thing is they stole all the cologne i had as well [21:03] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:03] bad dudes who smell good :o [21:04] hahaha [21:04] "Officer, I need your help, my house was broken into" "Well, what did they steal." "Umm, I don't know yet, but they smell like this." [21:06] hi all [21:06] how can i make this cron job works please, it does work when i run from theh console but not at crontab :-( http://pastebin.com/f36486c4d [21:07] if you don't redirect to /dev/null what does the error mailed to you say? [21:11] fire|bird: lol [21:11] :) [21:11] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-141-85.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:11] and you point to a pile of poo :P [21:12] "Occifer, I haven't been drinking" "No, I know you haven't, but you smell like cologne" "Huh?" [21:12] lol [21:12] backing up your windows partition every morning seems like super overkill. [21:13] having a windows partition is overkill [21:14] agreed [21:14] except maybe if you want a version that had DOS on native hardware [21:14] anyways paissad even though you don't answer me, my suggestion is to escape the % chars, make every % a \% [21:15] in any case, time to go see the barber and get a usefule haircut [21:16] laters [21:17] later Necos [21:24] can you tell me how to get, how to get to sesame street [21:24] Is there a log that lists files that have been most recently opened/moved/created? [21:24] yup, it's -----------^ that way [21:24] RipVanWinkle: ^^^ [21:24] :D [21:25] lf4, use find [21:25] fire|bird: Thats not right... its head down the block and then keep walking until your feet bleed. [21:25] lol [21:25] RipVanWinkle: use google maps to get to sesame street ;) [21:26] i just may try that [21:27] theres 10 of em in the usa [21:27] for example: Sesame St, Wewahitchka, Gulf, FL 32465 [21:28] RipVanWinkle: That so you won't know the real one from the fakes. [21:28] lf4: nope, no such logfile, although you can do that with find(1) [21:29] howdy BP{k} [21:29] fire|bird: howdy :) [21:30] mancha BP{k} Thanks :) i'm working on it now. [21:31] \o/ for .bash_history lol [21:32] Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) left irc: "ok, good night everyone" [21:33] marchhare (n=marchhar@65.30.221.199) joined ##slackware. [21:34] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:38] Gastion (n=alexande@c160.a109.sto.bahnhof.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [21:38] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:38] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-141-85.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Killed buffer"). [21:38] hitest (n=hitest@64.114.226.226) joined ##slackware. [21:39] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. 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[21:53] nope [21:53] he is blind [21:55] SkyNet_ONE (n=Ederson@187.35.198.30) joined ##slackware. [21:56] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:56] ivandi (n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [21:58] ivandi (n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware. [21:59] SkyNet_ONE (n=Ederson@187.35.198.30) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:01] name (n=name@c-69-140-59-98.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-61-4-154.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:02] Nick change: name -> Guest25064 [22:03] best hex editor? [22:04] Ive heard the elite use butterflies [22:06] hexedit does the job [22:06] Guest25064: vim [22:06] tank-man: That is true :) [22:06] real men use their brain power alone :P [22:07] i used to use bvi, but vim is good enough [22:07] ivandi (n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[22:16] RipVanWinkle f2=save [22:16] Quiznos: What do you mean? lol [22:16] Guest25064 (n=name@c-69-140-59-98.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:16] whatcha gonna do for show tonight? :) [22:17] not while in hexedit mode, you got to hit ascii to get out of hex mode and then F2 will save [22:17] break gnu, nail or lib? [22:17] RipVanWinkle yea; you wrote diff above [22:17] Quiznos: Haha so far no breakage :) [22:17] aww [22:17] from F3 (view) F4 toggles hex on & off [22:17] i can wait [22:17] rip nods [22:18] Quiznos: Probably wont do much tonight. [22:18] RipVanWinkle you know, i know but third dont [22:18] aww [22:18] LinuxyEr1n (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-228.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] my bad, i just knew mc did hex, i have not used it much so i have not mastered it [22:18] well i shouldnt be one to write; my x11 is imploding i think [22:19] s'ok [22:19] Sorry to disapoint :) [22:19] haha I see [22:19] s'ok [22:19] v4nelle (n=van@adsl148-181.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:19] I do want to install VMware Server before I leave for work tonight. [22:19] and you get paid to do this? [22:19] heh [22:20] Quiznos: to do what? [22:20] what you do [22:21] Yes [22:21] pff [22:21] but this I dont get paid for... this is my setup at home. [22:21] ah [22:22] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [22:26] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:27] josefig (n=JoseFig@189.129.224.35) left irc: Client Quit [22:27] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [22:28] fk opera crashed again [22:28] i'm really disappointed that things can become so fragile [22:29] you're using computers. what were you expecting? [22:29] Quiznos: you + opera just don't mix well. :P [22:29] lf4: the Free VMware Server? [22:29] i've been using opera since advertising; this crap is quite new. [22:30] I've been using it since ads too, and lately the snapshots. 10 is to be released 9.1.09 [22:30] ananke i do have reasonable expectations; true, i've been a user for a VERY LONG time. i know what they can and cannot do. [22:30] fire|bird any probs? [22:31] js way? [22:31] Quiznos: not that I've had, no [22:31] do you install tons o widgies? [22:31] oh yeah [22:31] that is the only way to stress it [22:31] and js-buttons [22:31] I have at least 25 widgets [22:31] and all the other stuff that can be done to it [22:32] messing with the zipfiles [22:32] if you havent done those yet then I'll not indulge in a beta or less [22:32] It's at RC status [22:33] still not a whole num for me. :) [22:33] juice__ (i=juice@ice-cold.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-21-171.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:33] juice__ (i=juice@ice-cold.net) left ##slackware. [22:33] juice__ (i=juice@ice-cold.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:33] Version 10 Build 4570 :) [22:34] nods [22:34] is that what you're runnin? [22:34] Nick change: juice__ -> juice2 [22:34] yup [22:34] k [22:34] damn opera doesnt do any -v|--version at all [22:35] stoopit nonstd cod0ers [22:35] well; i'm thinking of disassmebling it [22:35] Quiznos: Then what does opera -version do? :P [22:35] ya know, like threatening a badRobot [22:35] errors; cannot connect to X [22:35] haha, it works here. :D [22:36] -ver* does nothing [22:36] it wants to immediately connect [22:36] Quiznos: run opera -version, here it outputs the version, nothing more, nothing less. :) [22:36] not for 9.64 [22:36] does in 10 [22:36] Opera 10.00 Internal. Build 4570 for Linux. Qt library 4.5.1. [22:37] i have qt3 version [22:37] /usr/src/opera-9.64-2480.gcc4-shared-qt3.i386 [22:37] yeah, it's qt4 mnow [22:37] /usr/src/opera-9.64.gcc4-shared-qt3.i386.tar.gz [22:37] zachary (n=zach@adsl-69-212-201-208.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [22:37] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [22:37] s/mnow/now/ [22:38] fat finger syndrome? [22:38] evidently. :P [22:38] or misalignment? [22:38] eye-finger [22:38] haha [22:38] its fingerpopping time - Cartman [22:38] heh [22:38] I don't use my eyes to type, I touch type, 65-70 wpm [22:38] finger popping? [22:38] hah [22:38] RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH [22:38] Southpark [22:38] (say it) [22:38] lol [22:39] gotta yeell that for it to work [22:39] oops stuttering fingers [22:39] or, double-bouncing fingers [22:39] Quiznos: keyboard dyslexia ;) [22:39] heh [22:39] double-bouncing? Ok, put the rubber ball down and THEN type. :) [22:39] manual dyslexidigitalis [22:40] or just, dyslexidigitalis [22:40] key bouncing [22:40] moosless [22:40] ok here's another current prob [22:40] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-138-190.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] i forgot... gime a sec [22:41] Stylles (n=root@201.10.73.21) joined ##slackware. [22:41] Quiznos: PIBKAC [22:41] no; neural reboot [22:41] ok here it is [22:41] i know a site that has iso's, years in sequence; i think i need the iso-content [22:41] powtrix (n=powtrix@189.69.19.87) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [22:41] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [22:42] zachary (n=zach@adsl-69-212-201-208.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [22:42] zachary (n=zach@adsl-69-212-201-208.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [22:42] now, the prob is that apparently the iso's have a app/tool for access but i'm thinking that the content is plaintext within files is iso's [22:42] [22:42] Hi people [22:42] is it easy to mount and exract files? [22:43] i think the app is .exe [22:43] the prob really is that the year-seq dont go far enuf back on plaintext compared to the isos seq [22:43] Quiznos, they are talking about [22:43] who? [22:44] you sqeerd them to silence [22:45] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:48] agentc0re: Yes the free VMware Server. [22:49] lf4: Have you played with it yet by chance? [22:50] agentc0re: I installed in on a keynote agent at work and configured it. I'm having a bit of an issue on my home system though. [22:51] lf4: FWIW, i wasn't very fond of vmware server.. granted i had a 1.X version running.. But i use the new XenServer. I love that shit man. it was easy, and quick. [22:51] the interface is nice too. [22:52] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:52] Oh man server 2.0.1 is awesome :) if only I can get it working haha [22:52] lf4: i am currently running my exchange server and a citrix server on my Xenserver. i plan on adding a domain controller and possibly another server we have. [22:53] tonight, I should have slack64 on the lappy. I just installed Ubuntu on it (Ugh, I know) but that paved the way to installing along side windows, so now I should be able to install slack to the linux partitions Ubuntu made, and still I have my windows on there with this apps I want. \o/ [22:53] agentc0re: nice, I was having issues with Nvidia drivers when I messed around with centos and Xen. [22:56] frk (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: [22:57] yay fire|bird [22:58] Stylles (n=root@201.10.73.21) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:59] LinuxyEr1n (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-228.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:59] slack64 doesn't have a way of managing partitions? [23:00] lf4: Well, Ubuntu has created partitions now, so I should be able to tell slack to install to those [23:00] even though Ubuntu just did one big partition [23:00] lf4: either way, who cares, I have linux on the lappy. :P [23:01] firebird, you know there has to be a better way ;p [23:02] RipVanWinkle: than using Ubuntu? I know, but this gave me more a fail safe way because I DON'T want to lose windows just yet, and Ubuntu WILL NOT let you overwrite the windows install. [23:02] what about that live CD thingy? gparted? [23:03] RipVanWinkle: yeah, that is nice too, but with that I'd taken the risk, one slip and windows is gone. :P [23:03] slackware doesn't use pam correct? [23:03] Correct [23:03] right lf4 [23:03] ok thats what I thought [23:03] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-138-190.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:04] lf4 all the fdisks installed [23:04] fdisk bins [23:04] Quiznos: huh? [23:04] fdisk, cfdisk, sfdisk [23:04] part managers [23:05] lf4: don't mind him, he's two types of cheese short of a sub sandwich. [23:05] Quiznos: oh you're referring to my question to fire|bird about having to install ubuntu first? [23:05] nods [23:05] fire|bird byteme [23:06] no way [23:06] coward [23:06] sandwich [23:06] flamed bird [23:06] balding bord [23:06] damn [23:06] lol [23:06] fail [23:06] balding bord, what the..... :P [23:07] balding from last night [23:07] :) [23:07] yeah, I got that, just not the bord part. :P [23:07] lol [23:07] I'M A BIRD [23:07] you tord [23:07] fo0d [23:07] :D [23:07] go0d [23:07] haha [23:07] no0d [23:08] oh, whoops. :P [23:08] zachary (n=zach@adsl-69-212-201-208.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) left ##slackware. [23:08] cooked until 452F :P [23:08] haha [23:08] a bird thats on fire! [23:08] \o/ [23:09] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-168-56.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] Action: lf4 gets the hose [23:09] greetings MLanden, how are you? [23:09] y0 slackers ... what's up? [23:09] just ChillSlackin [23:09] just relaxin' thanks fire|bird and yourself? [23:10] MLanden: doing great, thank you [23:10] RipVanWinkle: Why not Slachillin? [23:10] that will work too [23:11] fire|bird: Great to hear...\|n/ O \m/ [23:11] MLanden just heard in SW:III, Yoda says "goodbye Chubakka" that char is OLD in the series [23:12] Quiznos: they've got a long lifespan...kinda "borrowed" for Whoopi's character in ST:TNG [23:13] vhann_ (n=vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) joined ##slackware. [23:14] Anyone knows if xmms ships with stock Slackware (12.1) ? [23:15] check a mirror in the /xap dir [23:15] vhann_: no. [23:15] vhann_: What the specs of the machine that you're puttin' it on? [23:16] vhann_: It is in 12.2 though [23:16] MLanden: Nothing about any machine, I just figured out I have a tremendous amount of slacky SlackBuilds installed [23:17] so I was wondering if I actually installed those or if they were in stock Slackware [23:17] vhann_: OK..I see...well,good luck [23:17] slacky slackbuilds are not going to be in stock slackware. [23:18] MLanden how do you come by that connection? [23:18] fire|bird: Yeah, that's what I thought, but then I have like at least 20 packages installed which have 'slacky.it' in their SlackBuilds and I really don,t remember having installed them [23:18] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) joined ##slackware. [23:19] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [23:20] Wow, actually I have at least 40 Slacky packages... [23:20] Well, if they are slacky, then you have installed them at some point in time. :) [23:20] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [23:21] Quiznos: dunno, it seems more than just coincidental on the two characters [23:21] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:22] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC3047E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [23:23] laters, sleepytime [23:23] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:24] He'll be back in forty years. [23:25] MLanden ah [23:25] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-144-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [23:26] but I guess the ability to "see" into other realities can stem from other literature as well [23:27] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-68-216.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:27] seeing and dreaming are more related than most folk now [23:27] know [23:28] Quiznos: true [23:29] hi people [23:29] hi thom [23:29] hi Thom1 [23:29] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-TWENTY-THREE.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [23:29] y0 thom1 [23:29] what about the non-people [23:29] ? [23:29] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.23.183) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:30] non-people,andarius? [23:30] bots dnt tawk to tawked to [23:30] till [23:30] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:30] Quiznos: bots talk to me, even when they arent programmed to [23:30] they know their role and respect my authority [23:30] heh [23:31] hmmm...:P [23:31] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [23:31] MLanden re chubakka,whoopi; an homage? [23:31] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@190.176.186.216) joined ##slackware. [23:31] Action: andarius is willing to bet slackboy rejects your athority :P [23:32] Action: ViN86 is tight with slackboy, as he and slackboy go way back [23:32] Quiznos: yoda and whoopi....could be a possibilty [23:32] nods [23:32] interesting connection if troo [23:32] i got this awesome ps2/n64 controller to usb adapter last week [23:32] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [23:32] productivity is at an all time low [23:33] haha [23:33] Action: ViN86 kisses slackboy's feet [23:33] X_X....whoah...:D [23:33] ew [23:33] too late, you didnt feel it? [23:33] o.o [23:33] There, slackboy has spoken. :) [23:33] :) [23:33] cuz he likes it like dat [23:34] ola rworkman [23:34] Action: rworkman had to look up how to do the "/me" thing with the bot. [23:34] phoenix^: bom ola [23:34] Action: ViN86 is impressed nonetheless [23:34] :) [23:35] this slack64 iso download is slooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww [23:35] 700 kB/s pfft [23:35] ftp.slackware.no? [23:35] damn, i'm hungry [23:35] i download most stuff at 10 MB/s lol [23:35] ViN86: get a different mirrrrrrrrooooooooooorrrrrrrrr [23:35] Hell, that's not slow, at least by my standards :) [23:35] make your own isoooooo ! [23:35] phoenix^: couldnt find one with the current iso :( [23:35] lol yea im lazy [23:35] ViN86: rsync the tree from a fast mirror and build your own. [23:36] use alienBOB's script.. even easier! [23:36] ViN86: lazy> you run a script, like alienBOB's and it makes it for you, your THAT lazy? [23:36] phoenix^: i didnt know such things existed [23:36] ViN86: now you do. :) [23:36] too used to being spoonfed heh [23:36] speaking of such, rworkman is alienBOB just taking a break? [23:36] ViN86: Ah, so your an Ubuntard? :P [23:37] phoenix^: haha no just havent run slack in a long time [23:37] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-228.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:37] 9.0 i believe it was... [23:37] i tried to install ubuntu, actually gave me problems [23:37] that's quite a while [23:37] and slack didnt, go figure [23:37] ViN86: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mirror-slackware-current.sh <--- you have to change one line in the script so it gets slack64 stuff [23:38] Action: ViN86 is in Win 7 atm... [23:39] ViN86: Windows?!?, I demand you get on some type of linux right this minute. :P [23:39] phoenix^: that's what im working on! [23:39] good [23:39] :P [23:40] wow this looks fake --> http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/D93ff95b/01944_streamunderthebridge_1920x1200.jpg [23:41] completely.. gives me a 404 error [23:41] ViN86: some of the images there are, computer designed, also, in this day and age, don't discount HDR imaging. [23:41] quasar: works here [23:41] phoenix^: yea it says he took it in PA though [23:42] maybe he touched it up [23:42] ViN86: to me, that looks like an HDR image. [23:42] http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/details/1944/stream_under_the_bridge.html [23:43] it's a long exposure shot, that's why [23:43] ViN86: Yeah, I could tell that by the water [23:44] Long exposure = to show continuous movement as opposed to a snapshot in time. [23:44] MLanden the fundamental characteristic of the SW series is its analysis of (the consequences of the lack and use of [pride,love]) [23:45] Quiznos: true [23:45] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:46] vhann_ (n=vhann@vl102-res-out.collegeahuntsic.qc.ca) left irc: "leaving" [23:47] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [23:48] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [23:54] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:54] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-228.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] chopp: he's busy atm :) [23:55] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:55] what does the sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice part of ilj's whois mean? [23:55] |alisonken1churc (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:55] rworkman: alright cool, was just concerned about him. :) [23:57] pi31415: its a project cloak [23:58] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-228.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:58] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC3047E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [00:00] --- Thu Aug 27 2009