[00:00] IOW, don't use sudo unless you understand how sudo does (and does not) work. [00:00] You have a PATH issue. [00:00] I am on ubuntu [00:00] so we use sudo... [00:00] and? [00:00] Action: rob0 looks at the channel name and does not see #ubuntu [00:00] :) [00:00] I am trying to make the slackware bootable usb so I can get rid of this pos rob0 [00:01] so "sudo -i" and try it [00:01] rob0: ok [00:02] butterball: :) [00:02] Well, that may not be a PATH issue after all (I misread the error), but still. [00:02] ok, same error [00:02] I'm going to get some sleap. TY for the help!! [00:03] take it easy [00:04] here is all that it says: http://pastebin.com/vRkXmQbm [00:04] NyteOwl (~zeronode@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Quit: Consider the four hat colours: Black, White, Grey, and Red. They mean: Cracker, Hacker, Guru, and Victim [00:05] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:05] sinuhe (~sinuhe@adsl-75-55-201-218.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:08] rworkman, rob0, any other ideas? [00:08] At this point, if it was me, I would be looking at that line 37 as mentioned. [00:10] I was looking on alienBOBs page and there was someone else with the error, but that was because they were doing /dev/sdb1 instead of just sdb [00:11] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [00:13] there we go! I took out the flash drive and put it back in. now its working. [00:14] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:14] gnome is retarted. you dont get a device node unless the device is mounted [00:14] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:15] yeah, it was mounted earlier, but it went into sleep mode and didn't remount it afterwards [00:16] also kinda pissed it went into sleep (Standby...whatever it is) while downloading [00:16] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [00:16] Hm, is anyone here familiar with awk or sed? Pretty hard stuff. [00:17] rikoche (~user@pool-173-57-61-194.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] rhisa: s/hard/unfamiliar [00:17] ... ;_; [00:20] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.59.136.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:21] hello everyone. Has anyone got that Cairo Dock working on their slackboxen? It seems to be requiring quite a lot of dependencies and I was hoping perhaps someone had made their own slackbuilds to make things easier. If not, no biggie. [00:24] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [00:25] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [00:25] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:27] I'm running the current current, currently. After I log into KDE as a user with a fresh profile and the latest flash player plugin installed, I can start Firefox and view flash media but sounds fails to work until I run alsaconf as root in a terminal. As soon as alsaconf runs, the flash sound start to work. [00:27] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [00:27] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) joined ##slackware. [00:28] I don't even need to select any options in alasconf. just execute it and sit there [00:28] then sound works [00:28] antiwire: that's how it's supposed to be [00:29] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.59.136.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:31] antiwire: I have never run current, but that user is in the proper groups correct? (sound group) [00:31] yeah [00:31] everything appears to be sane [00:32] well, alsaconf is just a bash script...time to see wtf ;) [00:32] antiwire: it may be the flash plugin, it may be alsa [00:32] antiwire: no telling [00:33] antiwire: or you may be better served using OSS [00:33] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:33] fAu (~fAu@78.134.6.96) left irc: Quit: 42 [00:35] bnguyen (~bnguyen@58.187.107.254) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [00:36] bnguyen (~bnguyen@58.187.77.169) joined ##slackware. [00:37] Jennifur (~androgyne@cpe-72-224-28-68.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:38] m1ck3y (~root@adsl-99-118-119-100.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:39] rikoche: http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-13.1/desktop/cairo-dock/2.1.3_9/src/ dunno how gnome-heavy it might be...YMMV...good luck [00:40] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A6E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:40] Action: nyRednek launches a model rocket in the general direction of manhattan to watch the port authority freak out [00:40] chibbo (~chhibo@122.162.215.103) joined ##slackware. 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[00:57] obnauticus (~obnauticu@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [00:57] Alonea (~alonea@24-155-251-98.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [00:59] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:00] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [01:01] wget "-R .extension" does downloading it and later to erase it <-- imagine if it has to reject many GBs .avi files, xD [01:01] obnauticus (~obnauticu@cary-c-068.resnet.purdue.edu) joined ##slackware. [01:01] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 253 seconds [01:01] obnauticus (~obnauticu@cary-c-068.resnet.purdue.edu) left irc: Client Quit [01:01] --reject should reject downloading, not downloading and erasing. [01:02] otherwise, it makes the ISPs inefficient. [01:04] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. 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[01:28] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [01:29] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [01:29] jwm_: what's up? [01:29] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:29] My PS/2 keyboard isn't being recognized [01:30] Even though I used it for the install & the LILO prompt [01:31] well, without keyboard, i can't really suggest a fix [01:31] I plugged in a USB one and thats what I am using now [01:31] Doesn't matter if I boot to runlevel 3 or 4 [01:32] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [01:32] hmmm...tried plugging mouse into other port? [01:33] mouse is USB as well [01:33] s/mouse/keyboard [01:34] ok, i'll give that try next reboot [01:34] The lights are up on it though [01:35] jwm_: not sure why, honestly [01:35] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [01:35] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware. [01:35] yup it's pretty strange. googling the hell out of it but not having much luck [01:35] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [01:36] Action: jeev scratches his Baruch Goldstein... ahhh feels good [01:36] jwm_: i know my daughter uses an imac keyboard on her eeepc for a similar reason [01:37] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:37] http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/10820-slackware-keyboard.html [01:38] Found that post and it wasn't really resolved. I might go remove the "gdm mouse boot option" [01:41] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:44] hmmm [01:45] wow i need to get on irc more. [01:45] this life shit is getting in the way of my ircing. [01:46] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-106-21.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:46] nyRednek, you home today? 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Pocket full o'shells [02:35] ah, I knew it! http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODU0Ng [02:35] "Back in July we reported on driver work done by Intel's [02:35] Chris Wilson to add back user-space mode-setting support to the Intel X.Org DDX driver (xf86-video-intel) to allow those with older Intel (i8xx) chipsets where kernel mode-setting can be buggy to at least have a decent experience with UMS." [02:35] nobody to make it work on older hardware so they're rolling back older drivers [02:36] kleanchap (~scotty@p5B11A6E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [02:36] (ftr, somebody "pete_" was here yesterday, with an i855GM which wouldn't work properly) [02:39] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) joined ##slackware. [02:40] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-169.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [02:45] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.31) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:45] febronio (~BadBoy@201-67-53-87.cpece700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[04:02] archcezar (1000@afw191.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:02] chendy (~chendy@204.152.211.137) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716] [04:03] Strashniq2 (~Strashni@vlan-176-sliven-87.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [04:05] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-2-200.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:10] hello ,can someone tell me where i can find xf86_ansic.h in slackware 13.1 [04:10] i have to compile a driver [04:12] is there anyone alive ? [04:14] Strasniq2: the driver you are trying to compile needs to be updated [04:14] AFAIK xorg no longer provides that header [04:15] wertik_rus (~wertik@212.57.108.204) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [04:15] ahh [04:15] Action: maco waves to Strashniq2 [04:15] that`s really bad for me [04:15] i assume its the difference between xfree86 (dead? or just mostly dead?) and x.org [04:15] a little googling sems to indicate that you are out of luck about the .h file [04:16] well i wandered why intel didn`t create a newer version... [04:16] you can port it [04:16] what graphics card are you on? [04:16] 8xx and 9xx should all be fine with current xorg [04:17] SiS 661741/760 or 662/761 Gx [04:17] ohhh [04:17] sis is silicone graphics, not intel, i thought [04:17] i reinstalled the slackware and i managed this time to run it under VESA 1024x7** [04:17] yup [04:17] maco: *everybody* left xfree86 after its licence change [04:17] but yeah...those have been dwindling in support the last couple years [04:17] damn....SiS' card have always been a PITA for me [04:17] yeah but intel website got this driver that worked in CentOs 5.2 [04:17] but its old [04:18] now i can`t compile and run it [04:18] yeah....centos isnt exactly bleeding edge [04:18] and i`m not good in english [04:18] Strashniq2: how well does the vesa drivers work for you? [04:18] i found another website but they got binaries for 7.1 i think [04:18] not very good [04:18] damn... [04:18] i need to change resolution 2 times to fix my desktop fit the screen [04:19] if i can make such script to change 2 times my resolution - i can make it [04:19] OffPlanet (~meler@adsl-69-232-119-81.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:19] initially the KDE didn`t fit the desktop with the screen very closely [04:20] my optimum resolution is 1280x800 but 1024x760 is ok too [04:21] xrandr -s 800x600 && xrandr -s 1024x768 <-- that should do what you asked in #ubuntu [04:21] ok thanks alot [04:21] where should i put that ? [04:22] are you using gdm? [04:22] i think yes [04:22] it is the last thing i see before login [04:22] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting%20xrandr%20commands%20in%20kdm/gdm%20startup%20scripts [04:23] Strashniq2: there is something called de-ANSI-fication in automake that might be able to fix up the code and then you comment out that xf_ansic.h file? not sure [04:24] foobarz do you realise that i have linux for less than 24 h ? [04:24] and i never used it before [04:24] nogo (~gobo@122-124-132-131.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:25] Strashniq2: difficult start... you get to learn fun things right away [04:25] well i changed 3 ubuntu types and debian and then i finished in slackware [04:26] i have to make this driver run , but the original one (in slackware) is giving me flickering screen [04:26] so i want somehow to make my resolution to 1280x800 [04:28] Strashniq2: it might be possible to run XFree86-4.5.0 ... it has it... bad idea maybe [04:28] nogo (gobo@122-124-132-131.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware. [04:28] Morn [04:31] foobarz if i can return my laptop to earlier versions of xfree i think i can download the binary and run the already made driver [04:33] foobarz is it possible to revert to Xfree 4.3.0 ? [04:33] or 4.5.0 [04:34] no [04:34] you can't use xfree86 [04:34] Strashniq2: not really sure... it is quite old, and it will not integrate into slackware the same as xorg does... I believe xorg understands hal, udev and things it uses to do new magic [04:37] is there any way to force VESA work in 1280x800 ? [04:37] and keeping the OS stable [04:38] foobarz actually the sis driver will never support 3d ,so it doesn`t matter what driver i use if it supports my resolution [04:38] Strashniq2: look around here: http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsisvga.shtml [04:38] i did [04:38] they are too old(the binaries) [04:38] and i don`t know how to compile any driver by the sorce [04:40] foobarz can you explain me in simple english what this section means :3. X.org/XFree86 driver (source of the Free Version) [04:42] ilker (~ilker@88.241.146.78) joined ##slackware. [04:42] Strashniq2: I'm looking [04:43] ilker (~ilker@88.241.146.78) left irc: Changing host [04:43] ilker (~ilker@last.fm/user/ilker) joined ##slackware. [04:46] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5D45.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:46] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [04:51] Strashniq2: the package xf86-video-sis-0.10.2 doesn't work for u? [04:52] foobarz where did you find this ? [04:52] Strashniq2: it is installed by default with Slackware [04:52] I assumed you already tried that driver [04:52] so what should i do after the install ? [04:52] how to start it ? [04:52] maybe i missed it , who knows [04:53] i don`t remember what i did ... :( [04:53] should i extract or something ? [04:53] Strashniq2: if you got that installed, you could try to mv /etc/xorg.conf to /etc/xorg.conf-mybackup.... the try as root Xorg -configure and see what xorg.conf it makes for u [04:53] I think all you would have to do is force the X server to use the "sis" driver [04:53] in /etc/X11/xorg.conf [04:53] i did that [04:53] i didn`t have any xorg.conf before i did Xorg -configure [04:54] so tell me about this package you mentioned [04:54] can you tell us what is in your xorg.conf? [04:54] xf86-video-sis-0.10.2 [04:54] elliot98 (~elliot@109.66.12.138) joined ##slackware. [04:54] right /etc/X11/xorg.conf I left out X11 part [04:55] foobarz you realize that all i did was -shooting in the dark ? [04:55] Strashniq2: do ls -l /var/log/packages/xf86-video-sis* and see if it is installed [04:55] elliot98 (~elliot@109.66.12.138) left irc: Changing host [04:55] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) joined ##slackware. [04:56] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1034 2010-08-26 00:45 /var/log/packages/xf86-video-sis-0.10.2-i486-2 [04:56] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1050 2010-08-26 00:45 /var/log/packages/xf86-video-sisusb-0.9.3-i486-2 [04:56] Strashniq2: to see if you have it installed, run this: in the command line: ls /var/log/packages/|grep sis [04:56] yeah [04:56] it's there [04:56] i know that when i first started my X [04:56] it just flickered [04:56] you can do: man 4 sis to read the manual page about the sis driver [04:56] then i copied xorg.conf-vesa into xorg.conf [04:57] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [04:57] it should be running [04:57] it supports my VGA [04:57] maybe not [04:58] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [04:58] if you copied xorg.conf-vesa into xorg.conf, then you are using the vesa driver now [04:58] i know [04:58] can't seem to mount a dvd on Slackware, although on Ubuntu, it mounts with a UDF filesystem [04:58] there are things i don`t understand [04:58] my english is not perfect [04:58] :( [04:58] so, I'd try........ Xorg -configure then hit ctrl-alt-backspace and quit.... then try edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change Driver to "sis" like the man page shows [04:58] try changing the line that says: Driver "vesa" to Driver "sis" [04:58] i did [04:58] elliot98: are you using kde? [04:58] it flickers [04:59] is there a kernel module that slackware needs? [04:59] elliot98: how are you mounting and what does it say [04:59] foobarz when i change it to sis -the startx is not showing my desktop but just flickering screen [04:59] the flickering could be in incorrect refresh rate for the monitor [04:59] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [04:59] oh...you dont even se the desktop at all? [04:59] dmesg states: UDF-fs: no anchor found UDF-fs: not partition found [05:00] Strashniq2: so the driver works, but the monitor times are wrong, it sets a bad video mode? [05:00] mount -t udf /dev/sr0 /mnt/dvd [05:00] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) joined ##slackware. [05:00] foobarz i don`t know what is "bad video mode" but its possible [05:00] elliot98: and if you dont specify a filesystem? [05:00] zux1wrk (~zux@80.81.42.4) left irc: Client Quit [05:00] foobarz i see only white lines that flicker - i can`t see anything when i startx in sis driver [05:01] Strashniq2: what monitor you have? [05:01] foobarz its a laptop [05:02] the guy who made the previous sis drivers is an author of the man page - i guess i don`t do something correctly [05:03] Zordrak: [05:03] FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors [05:03] VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sr0. [05:03] GFS2: gfs2 mount does not exist [05:03] sorry about that [05:03] but that's what dmesg states [05:04] ?_ [05:04] what if you DONT specify a fs [05:04] Strashniq2: I think the sis driver that slackware installs is the right driver... you need to have to driver set a good video mode that the laptop supports... the mode that is the native resolution of the laptop display... you can look in the file /var/log/Xorg.log.0 and see if you gives you any information about valid modelines that it supports [05:04] Zordrak: it states it needs to specify a filesystem [05:04] k [05:04] foobarz what should i look in the log file ? [05:05] however, Ubuntu mounts it an UDF filesystem [05:05] elliot98: same drive_ [05:05] ? [05:05] Strashniq2: /var/log/Xorg.0.log [05:05] perhaps there is some kernel module that is missing [05:05] foobarz ok [05:05] elliot98: is it a movie? if so, try running dragon player and see if it shows a movie [05:06] elliot98: the other question is what version of slackware are you using? "cat /etc/slackware-version" [05:06] Strashniq2: that file might tell you that something is wrong, and it might if you are lucky tell you the modelines the monitor was detected to support [05:06] i'd not worry about udf extenstions, mount as iso9660 [05:06] alisonken1lap: ++ yep. Plan. [05:06] foobarz in what section of the log i should search for ? [05:06] seems there is 2.50 version of UDF [05:07] does vanilla kernel support that version? [05:07] foobarz let me close my startx ,join again [05:07] elliot98: 10:02:46 < alisonken1lap> elliot98: the other question is what version of slackware are you using? "cat /etc/slackware-version" [05:07] and then change driver to sis [05:07] foobarz and then i will check the log , ok ? [05:07] Strashniq2: ok do that [05:07] Strashniq2 (~Strashni@vlan-176-sliven-87.comnet.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:08] using version 12.1.0, but linux kernel 2.6.35.3 [05:08] elliot98: try iso9660 like mancha said [05:09] elliot, grep UDF_FS in your kernel's config too to see if you have support in the kernel. [05:10] iso9660 also fails :( [05:10] error? [05:10] nokia3510 (~nokia@fedora/nokia3510) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:11] mancha: dmesg states: [05:11] separate with commas [05:11] attempt to access beyond end of device [05:11] sr0: rw=0, want=68, limit=4 [05:11] isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=sr0, iso_blknum=16, block=16 [05:11] wrong channel, sorry [05:12] and CONFIG_UDF_FS=y, CONFIG_UDF_NLS=y [05:12] in the config file [05:12] I see there is this patch: http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-udf/ [05:13] wondering if the latest kernel is already patched though [05:14] hrmm, is that all the dmesg for your iso9660 mount? are you sure the drive is /dev/sr0 ? [05:14] Strashniq (~root@vlan-176-sliven-87.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [05:14] foobarz well i don`t know what to search for [05:15] screen 0 is not dri2 and dri capable [05:15] Strashniq: you made a copy of Xorg.0.log from when you startx with sis driver? otherwise it overwritten or it is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old [05:16] i just started the with the sis driver and i `ve stoped it and now i`m in console [05:16] haven`t started the X again [05:16] ok [05:16] ok, i just did ctrl + Z while running a process in terminal. that stopped the process. now how do i resume it? [05:16] fg [05:17] chibbo: fg [05:17] Strashniq: put it on pastebin.com and I will look at it (give me pastebin link) [05:17] ohhh thanks [05:17] how to copy the whole file and paste it there [05:17] is there any trick ? [05:18] Zordrak: so it seems that some UDF filesystems use a version that may not be in current kernel [05:18] oh right you are in console... a little tricky [05:18] elliot98: i guess thats possible [05:18] well i guess i can do it step by step [05:19] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [05:19] ctrl+C works in console ? [05:19] Strashniq: if you have a mouse and gpm running, then you can open lynx in another console and copy/paste using the mouse [05:19] i think i got it runing [05:19] i can move my mouse [05:21] also, if I reset some parameters in a kernel config file does "make" recompile the entire kernel or only the changes? [05:21] foobarz when i select the text how can i copy it ? [05:21] elliot98: i think it will compound the changes [05:22] elliot98: personally, unless im ONLY adding a module or two i `make mrproper` to be safe beforehand [05:22] Strashniq: normally ctrl+c but I'm looking at a tool called pastebinit it is python script that might to the trick [05:22] what is make mrproper? [05:22] elliot98: if you're just adding modules, then make should suffice to add those modules, but you need to remember to make modules_install [05:22] damn, i will start the X [05:23] elliot98: its like make clean, but with a serious face on. it will even delete the config so ALWAYS HAVE A COPY [05:23] I see [05:24] Strashniq: http://pastebin.ca has a link for uploading a file [05:26] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [05:28] Strashniq: yeah......... lynx http://pastebin.ca/upload.php maybe that form lets you select the file to upload [05:30] i have just configured sound driver by alsaconf but there is no sound. what should I do? I should install codecs? [05:30] Strashniq: in lynx... get selection on the File:__________ blank and type in the full path name of /var/log/Xorg.0.log that has the sis driver stuff [05:30] ilker: run alsamixer and see if your channels are muted (they show "m" if muted) [05:30] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:31] john_dee (~id@95-29-10-2.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:32] alisonken1lap: yeah, thanks a lot. [05:35] Strashniq: it is a little confusing... you have to upload, then on the next screen do "submit post" [05:35] Strashniq2 (~Strashni@vlan-176-sliven-87.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [05:35] foobarz are you still here? [05:35] foobarz this is the link http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=wpNEcCK0 [05:35] Strashniq2: ok I am looking at it :) [05:36] bojevnik (~bojevnik@93-103-134-94.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [05:41] Strashniq2: what is the resolution of your laptop screen? [05:41] max resolution 1280x800 [05:41] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [05:42] foobarz this is the maximum it can do but if it wasn`t so choppy i would be ok with 1024 x 7** [05:42] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [05:44] Strashniq2: what kind of laptop is it? brand/model? you are going to need to set the correct horizontal and vertical ranges in xorg.conf [05:45] foobarz BenqA51 / Benq A51E (both are close) [05:45] foobarz i don`t know how to set `em [05:46] Strashniq2: horizontal frequency range in kHz and vertical frequency range in Hz ... this information might be in the laptop manual, which I will try to download [05:47] foobarz i don`t keep the manual ,i hope you find it [05:49] velusip (~velusip@65.38.42.19) left irc: Quit: velusip [05:50] Strashniq2: you should get the manual and keep it for reference..........http://benq.eu/support/downloads/download.cfm?file=digital_media/joybook/manuals/a51e/joybook_a51_english_online.pdf [05:52] foobarz ,so the vertcal and horizontal Hz is the problem ? [05:53] Strashniq2: yes, I think it is at least part of them problem [05:53] foobarz i appreciate your help [05:56] Strashniq2: had to get manual from some site... http://downloads.devicemanuals.com/dl/B/benq/joybook/joybook_a51_english_online.pdf [05:56] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-117-89.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:57] foobarz i got the manual [05:57] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-117-89.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [05:57] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [05:59] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [06:05] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [06:06] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [06:11] Strashniq2: in your xorg.conf file, type to comment out (put # on 1st char of line) for HorizSync and VertSync lines to comment them out [06:11] foobarz ok [06:11] but i have some guests coming [06:12] i hope you will be online after an hour or so [06:12] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:12] Strashniq2: I think they are wrong... and if that doesn't work, we can try some values instead later [06:12] ok [06:12] i know my refresh rate in windows is 60 Hz [06:12] but nothing more [06:13] Strashniq2: the log shows that your screen supports a lot of modelines and if we work on it enough, we can make the all work [06:13] foobarz i just need a clearer visual [06:13] just not to be so blurred [06:15] Strashniq2: comment out the lines..... in SubSection "Display" add line: Modes "1280x800" [06:15] will be back in 20 min [06:15] Strashniq2: you know what I mean right? lol [06:16] foobarz -false alarm [06:16] well i`m not sure ;) [06:16] xorg.conf and monitors can be a pain [06:17] foobarz what exactly to do ? [06:17] it doesn't work automatic 100% for me either... I have to do something in xorg.conf and hacks [06:17] do you want my xorg.conf ? [06:18] Strashniq2: pastebin it if you can [06:18] ofc [06:18] with the X is easier [06:19] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [06:20] Strashniq2: but I think first you should try to comment out lines for "HorizSync" and "VertRefresh" because they are forcing the driver to use those and it might be able to detect better settings and work, otherwise we can set some values for them later [06:20] Sappys (~Sappy@84.237.184.173) joined ##slackware. [06:21] foobarz [06:21] let me upload it [06:21] to pastebin [06:21] ok [06:21] then you will decide [06:22] Kow (kowalczyk@cm-84.209.120.74.getinternet.no) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [06:22] Strashniq2: you can see in your xorg log how it says your 1280x800 mode is out of range... that is because of those bad Horz and Vert lines in xorg.conf [06:23] i see [06:23] slowhands (~chatzilla@85.254.194.65) joined ##slackware. [06:24] http://pastebin.com/GnuPdKmE [06:24] foobarz tell me if you can open it [06:24] Strashniq2: all those "Modeline" lines in xorg log are modes it things it can use... it tries to use Default mode "1024x768" but you say it flickers with white lines? [06:25] foobarz when i set Driver to "sis" and restart - white lines which flicker [06:25] in vesa - it works but not correctly situated(the desktop outlines) [06:26] slowhands (chatzilla@85.254.194.65) left ##slackware. [06:27] slowhands (~chatzilla@85.254.194.65) joined ##slackware. [06:27] fredoslack-bis (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-141-202.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:27] slowhands (~chatzilla@85.254.194.65) left irc: Client Quit [06:28] akmal (~giantpand@unaffiliated/akmal) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:29] Strashniq2: that xorg.conf file you gave me now.... it is not as I expected it... that is not generated by xorg server... the Xorg -configure would make it different [06:29] yeah [06:29] this is the back up [06:29] let me make the xorg -conf [06:29] should i stop the X ? [06:30] what is the opposite of "startx" ? [06:30] Strashniq2: whatever you need to do.... but backup your xorg.conf .........then as root, do Xorg -configure so it makes a clean xorg.conf [06:31] i am as root even now [06:31] ok [06:31] Strashniq2 (~Strashni@vlan-176-sliven-87.comnet.bg) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:31] if you were root now, slackboy would kick you [06:31] slackboy isn't here [06:31] well [06:31] i am [06:31] root [06:31] cause i have only root [06:31] never mind [06:32] what should i type ? [06:32] kinda weird.. no slackboy [06:32] well ... i was here yesterday with slackboy- no kick at all [06:32] but let`s go on [06:32] what was the command ? [06:32] it is Xorg -configure [06:33] To test the server, run 'X -config /root/xorg.conf.new' [06:33] should i run it ? [06:33] sure, why not [06:34] black screen [06:34] Kowalczyk (kowalczyk@cm-84.209.120.74.getinternet.no) joined ##slackware. [06:34] small lines flickering -they look like "--" [06:34] ctrl-alt-del...... actually, a black screen is a good normal screen [06:34] oh no [06:34] i see small "--" lines flickering side to side and a lil bit going up [06:35] (EE) SIS(0): Illegal video RAM size (262144K) detected, using BIOS-provided info [06:35] anyhow, exit it... pastebin the xorg.conf that it generated, if it is .new file, then that one [06:35] error setting MTRR (base = 0xc8000000, size = 0x08000000, type = 1) Inappropriate ioctl for device (25) [06:35] well i can`t change the consoles before i kill the X [06:35] so i killed it a long time ago [06:36] cd /root [06:36] ls [06:36] srry [06:37] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [06:37] Strashniq: maybe query me, we chat private about this... this is too much entertainment for the #slackware channel [06:38] what's the reason for using $(bleh) instead of `bleh` now ? [06:38] i know it's a recent thing in bash, and prefferred method of expansion [06:38] but i forget the reasoning [06:39] Strashniq2 (~Strashni@vlan-176-sliven-87.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [06:39] foobarz http://pastebin.com/fmgWPRMN [06:39] the new one [06:40] ah.. http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/082 =P [06:40] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) left ##slackware. [06:40] phrag (~phrag@about/slackware/phrag) joined ##slackware. [06:41] foobarz did you get it ? [06:41] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [06:41] Strashniq2: I have it [06:42] phrag: easier to see, right? [06:44] Strashniq2: put line DefaultDepth 24 in your Section "Screen" and under SubSection "Display" with depth 24, add line Modes "1280x800" [06:44] phrag, nested $( $() ) [06:45] foobarz i didn`t see anywhere about my VGa driver [06:45] no "VESA" or "sis" [06:45] Strashniq2: it says Driver "sis" it is there [06:45] i guess i missed that [06:46] DefaultDepth 24 into Display subsection ? [06:47] Strashniq2... inside the Sectino "Screen" [06:47] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [06:47] ok [06:48] ok let me restart X [06:48] Strashniq2 (~Strashni@vlan-176-sliven-87.comnet.bg) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:49] "Xorg /root/xorg.conf.new" ? [06:49] or just copy and replace the usual xorg.conf? [06:50] dive: You can nest with backticks also, it's just a pain in the ass. [06:50] XGizzmo, yeah I know [06:51] Strashniq: use the conf that Xorg -configure made, and edit it as I suggested [06:51] Strashniq: of course it has to renamed to /etc/X11/xorg.conf [06:52] i just put it instead of the xorg.conf [06:52] renamed as you said [06:52] nice [06:52] i got flickering screen [06:52] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [06:52] didn`t found sis in it [06:53] not for the VGA [06:53] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.74.146) left irc: Quit: Leaving [06:53] Strashniq: in your Section "Monitor", add lines HorizSync 30.0 - 75.0 and VertRefresh 50.0 - 70.0 some russian used these values are felt happy [06:54] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [06:55] damn i hate this console [06:55] it doesn`t want to copy [06:55] and paste [06:55] oh slackboy is there, just not as operator [06:55] ok i will be back in 15 min [06:56] Strashniq: slackboy normally kicks people on irc as root [06:56] so how should i put myself out of root ? [06:56] SOUL_OF_R00T (~0xff00@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) joined ##slackware. [06:56] how to make a new user ? [06:56] Strashniq: lol... are you really this newb? I think you are playing with me [06:56] nah [06:56] i got slack in less than 24 hours [06:57] i learned all this yesterday [06:57] whole day infront of that linux [06:57] read the slackbook in /topic Strashniq [06:57] i got it yesterday [06:57] nice day to all [06:57] i think its outdated [06:57] ok .let me get my guest and i will be back [06:58] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@200.204.237.153) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:58] otherwise i will have to log in win7 [06:58] Strashniq: man useradd will show how you create user [06:59] actually adduser is better [06:59] for a newcomer [07:00] adduser is a Slackware-specific frontend for useradd/usermod/passwd [07:00] Strashniq: then you use another console login by hitting ctrl+alt+F1/2/3/4/5/6 for the different consoles... or from inside X, you hit ctrl+alt+F1/2/3/4/5/6 and F7/8/9/10/11/12 to get back into different X screens [07:03] right adduser prompts for the info to create a user and you can use the defaults it offers for most items... been a while since I actually created a user... not something you do a lot unless you are some sys admin [07:04] fredoslack-bis (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-141-202.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Windows 7 c'est mon copain [07:12] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-160-53.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[08:01] WildWizard (~michael@ppp118-208-17-166.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [08:01] ilker (~ilker@last.fm/user/ilker) joined ##slackware. [08:02] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:03] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [08:04] nogo (pupuser22@122-124-132-131.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware. [08:04] chibbo (~chhibo@122.162.215.103) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:08] pete` (~user@063.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [08:22] ashe (~ashe@118.96.220.149) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [08:24] ashe (~ashe@61.94.126.202) joined ##slackware. [08:24] Sappys (~Sappy@84.237.184.173) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:27] ilker (~ilker@last.fm/user/ilker) left irc: Quit: ... [08:28] Hi all. I have been having problems with screen freezes on Slack13.1, with the intel driver and an intel 855GM chip. Having hunted Xorg faqs, howtos and man pages I've had no joy. Wondering if anyone here has had this problem and resolved it, or has suggestions about further troubleshooting ideas. I have pastebinned xorg.logs and xorg.conf if needed. Sorry if this is a little wordy. [08:29] pete`: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODU0Ng , the driver is currently in a bad state for your card [08:30] pete`: actually it isn't too wordy. .. sure as hell beats "xorg no workie .. fix kthxbai" ;) [08:30] so maybe a vesa driver would be best? [08:30] I have difficulties getting a vesa driver up an running too [08:30] ends up giving me a black screen [08:30] ouch! [08:30] for now, probably [08:30] janemba (~cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [08:31] pete`: have you heard about KMS? [08:31] no [08:31] not yet [08:31] should I explor in that direction? [08:31] janemba (~cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) joined ##slackware. [08:31] you'll have to disable kms before you can use vesa on your hardware [08:31] ok [08:31] thanks thats very helpful [08:32] hence my blackscreen [08:32] there's an option to add to lilo.conf, like i915.modeset=0 (but the name "i915" might have to be changed) [08:32] no [08:32] i915 [08:32] looks familiar to me [08:32] I've noticed it [08:32] oat boot time [08:33] sorry [08:33] to ask another question [08:33] it's another chip from intel [08:33] but can you enter i915.modeset=0 at the lilo prompt? [08:33] just before boot? [08:33] or is it a chnage in the lilo.conf thats required? [08:34] no, you have to edit your /etc/lilo.conf, goes in 'addappend" options [08:34] and don't forget to run 'lilo' after your change :P [08:35] thanks for that [08:35] I give the vesa driver another go after doing that [08:36] I'll even [08:47] pete` (~user@063.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [08:51] SOUL_OF_R00T (~0xff00@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:58] Cr1kk4 (~fabio@93-45-112-225.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [08:59] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:01] HarryS (H@harry.lu) joined ##slackware. [09:05] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:06] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [09:07] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:07] anyone know how to set up default applications on firefox [09:08] i want it to always ask me what i want to do with a pdf file (save or open) but if i want to open i want to be able to choose an app from a dropdown menu [09:08] i always just get a browse button and i have to navigate to /usr/bin/xpdf or whatever [09:09] if i choose to just open it (in pref->apps) it will just open but won't ask me do i want to save [09:09] any ideas? [09:12] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [09:12] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5D45.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:14] zoran119: "edit" -> "preferences" -> "applications" [09:15] oh wait, didn't read properly. :) [09:16] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Client Quit [09:16] BP{k}: yeah... i have 'always ask' for pdf... and i get a prompt to save or open... but how do i get okular,xpdf listed in the 'open' option instead of the browse button? [09:16] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-79.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:17] ilker (~ilker@88.241.146.78) joined ##slackware. [09:17] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:18] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) joined ##slackware. [09:19] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [09:24] sounds like mime stuff [09:24] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [09:27] pqPGXl (bd6cd226@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.189.108.210.38) joined ##slackware. [09:27] In+stark+terms,+Wikipedia+is+one+of+the+single+most+important+undertakings+in+human+history.+If+we+do+our+job,+future+generations+will+look+upon+Wikipedia+as+the+cornerstone+of+the+information+revolution.+If+we+don't,+the+world+will+lose+a+tremendous+resource.+This+is+why+we+need+to+keep+the+jews+out. [09:27] fYv8H4h7j (de7f6c82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.222.127.108.130) joined ##slackware. [09:27] What+the+fuck+does+it+mean?+What's+the+point?+Is+that+sticker+telling+me+to+drive+more+carefully+because+you've+spawned,+and+you're+carrying+said+spawn+in+your+auto-mobile?+Why+should+I+care?+You're+obvously+an+idiot,+so+why+should+I+have+any+regard+for+the+waste+matter+that+sprung+screaming+from+your+idiot+loins?+I'm+gonna+drive+how+I'm+gonna+drive.+Just+because+you've+gone+out+of+your+way+to+inform+me+that+you+ [09:27] yay! [09:27] Chat.+Chat.+Till+the+sun+is+gone.+Chat+till+your+eyes+sag+and+your+cheeks+are+wan.+Quickly+sip+that+fizzing+mountain+dew.+Pop+a+few+cheetos+in+your+mouth+and+chew.+Pimply+fat+nerdlings+huddled+on+the+puter.+#Chatterz:+Final+Destination+for+those+without+a+future. [09:27] Humidity+overheated+my+junk+liberally.+It+strapped+me+into+its+ambient+temperature+and+would+not+keep+its+offensive+moisture+off+of+me.+It+was+causing+many+red-flag+heat+strokes.+I+could+not+believe+what+the+fuck+was+going+on.+I+told+humidity+that+the+Weather+Network+would+not+approve+of+a+cool+front+coming+out+of+the+Gulf+Stream+for+free.+It+doesn.t+help+that+the+Humidex+has+been+at+40%+for+weeks.+I+can+barely+walk+ [09:27] I+like+to+give+my+self+paper+cuts+on+the+head+of+my+cock.+Then+have+ferocious+sex+to+feel+the+burn.+Think+about+your+breathing [09:28] Horney?+Looking+for+a+quick+no+strings+blow+job,+swing+by,+walk+in,+un+zip,+feed+it+to+me,+fuck+my+face,+squirt+n+go.+no+games,+no+names,+no+reciprocation!+very+discreet,+I+live+alone,+can+host+anytime+this+weekend.+You:+HWP,+45/under.+clean+and+ready+to+squirt.+send+me+a+message+with+your+info,+age,+height,+weight+and+when+you+wanna+squirt.+Me:+good+looking,+very+discreet,+white+male. [09:28] I+like+to+give+my+self+paper+cuts+on+the+head+of+my+cock ? [09:28] hmm [09:28] ok kick!! [09:28] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:28] Some+say+that+I+am+the+king+of+trolls.+Of+course,+this+is+ridiculous+because+trolls+have+no+king+and+accept+no+authority. [09:28] YAvKqlhVfq (c94cd412@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.201.76.212.18) joined ##slackware. [09:28] Action: sahko kicks xxcv [09:28] there [09:28] Y64ddikxmyZF0L (bd38642a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.189.56.100.42) joined ##slackware. [09:28] I+just+got+back+from+my+trip+to+Africa+and+man+was+it+great!+First+we+landed+in+South+Africa+and+while+there+I+actually+got+to+meet+Nelson+Mandela.+He+was+a+very+gracious+and+interesting+host.+Then+we+were+on+to+Kenya.+While+there+I+got+to+see+lions+and+elephants+in+the+wild.+A+rhino+actually+chased+the+hummer+we+were+riding+in,+but+I+think+the+driver+prompted+it+to.+I+also+saw+a+few+giraffes+and+crocs.+Then+we+went+ [09:28] Action: xxcv somebody control this [09:28] While+jerking+off+with+some+sort+of+lubricant,+mount+something+like+the+corner+of+the+bathroom+sink+so+that+your+balls+are+rubbing.+This+adds+intense+pleasure+to+your+nut+sack.+Also,+try+lubing+up+something+like+your+toothbrush+handle+and+stick+it+up+your+ass+while+jerking...it+hits+the+G-spot+nicely. [09:28] I'm+very+sorry+to+hear+about+your+situation.+I'll+write+a+post+about+it+on+BlogSpot+and+Xanga.+Maybe+we+can+also+start+a+social+bookmark+campaign+to+highlight+your+story. [09:28] girl+i+must+be+dick+cheney+because+i+want+to+fire+my+weapon+into+your+back [09:28] I+am+pleased+to+announce+that,+in+addition+to+having+spotless+tiles+and+grout+in+my+bathroom,+my+hands+are+several+orders+of+magnitude+cleaner+than+yours.+My+fingernails+all+but+sparkle+in+the+daylight,+due+to+their+highly+polished+status.+Upon+examination+under+a+scanning+electron+microscope,+you+will+notice+that+the+crevices+of+my+hands+are+quite+literally+free+of+germs+or+other+bacterial+growths.+Your+hands,+in+co [09:28] pqPGXl (bd6cd226@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.189.108.210.38) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [09:29] Face+it,+you+just+want+an+ipod+so+you+can+hack+the+firmware+to+make+it+vibrate+then+stick+the+smooth+case+up+your+ass+you+big+FAG!!! [09:29] It+is+indeed+a+cruel+twist+of+nature+that+the+most+wonderful+sex+coupling+in+the+world+?is+illegal+-+made+so+by+puritanical+Adults+determined+to+limit+child+rights. [09:29] What+an+evasive+answer.+I+want+to+know+if+you+have+been+the+parent+of+a+child+who+has+been+terminally+or+chronically+ill.+That+is+a+yes+or+no+answer.+What+is+subjective+about+that?+Do+you+have+kids+or+not?+Did+you+have+sick+siblings+as+a+child+or+not?+If+you+answer+with+"I've+pretty+much+been...."+then+you+are+a+coward+and+a+pretentious+idiot-fuck.+Answer+the+fucking+question.+I+find+your+answer+pretty+condesc [09:29] i+wipe+turd+on+my+tallywacker.+im+not+happy,+sometimes+i+touch+my+mouth+after+playin+with+faeces.+i+think+i+have+syphalis+or+scruvy..god+bless+triffle,+i+put+my+balls+in+triffle....my+pubes+are+4+inches+long. [09:29] girl,+you+must+be+grand+theft+auto:+san+andreas+because+once+i+get+inside+of+you+i'm+going+to+do+all+sorts+of+illegal+things [09:29] Ramius (~Noob@wikia/Sactage) joined ##slackware. [09:29] gbit (GBIT@unaffiliated/gbit) joined ##slackware. [09:29] As+a+professional+shrink,+I+was+appauled+while+observing+Tom+Cruise+as+he+underwent+a+complete+alteration+of+personality+on+national+television.+Although+his+aggressive+display+did+not+make+me+think+him+gay,+I+certainly+wondered+if+he+was+forgetting+his+Lithium+or+if+we+were+watching+one+of+his+alternate+personalities!+Truly+mindboggling+behavior! [09:29] Y64ddikxmyZF0L (bd38642a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.189.56.100.42) left irc: Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) [09:29] Second-best+sex?+Tell+that+to+a+Linux+programmer+who's+got+a+slice+of+pizza+in+one+hand,+his+hideously+empurpled+member+in+the+other+and+a+Natalie+Portman+tribute+website+firmly+plastered+across+Firefox... [09:29] Prodego (~Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego) joined ##slackware. [09:29] Ramius (Noob@wikia/Sactage) left ##slackware. [09:30] I+cant+go+a+day+without+punching+myself.+It+is+the+only+thing+I+get+pleasure+from,+so+I+end+up+with+bruises+and+I+cry+myself+to+sleep+because+the+only+thing+I+enjoy+is+painful.+I+tried+to+kill+myself+once,+but+then+I+stopped+because+my+mom+threw+a+beer+bottle+at+me. [09:30] what is this crap? [09:30] ejcweb (~chatzilla@210.127.gr5.adsl.brightview.com) joined ##slackware. [09:30] hmm [09:30] flood [09:30] just ignore it [09:30] ejcweb (chatzilla@210.127.gr5.adsl.brightview.com) left ##slackware. [09:30] spam/flood. [09:31] YAvKqlhVfq (c94cd412@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.201.76.212.18) left irc: Disconnected by services [09:32] fYv8H4h7j (de7f6c82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.222.127.108.130) left irc: Disconnected by services [09:32] phrag: ping [09:33] or alienBOB [09:33] its over now [09:33] I had some doubts after rKWNJL ;-) [09:33] on the other hand, it's funny :P [09:35] euqhrPoaHN8 (5c37132f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.92.55.19.47) joined ##slackware. [09:35] Anyone+think+jews+are+really+hot?+Especially+rabbis!+Those+greasy+curls+send+me+wild.Sadly+there's+no+jews+in+my+region+of+the+desert,+so+camels+have+to+do. [09:35] I+pray+to+the+wonderful+Lord+Jesus+Our+Saviour+and+thank+Lord+God+in+the+Highest+Heaven+for+all+the+beauty+and+love+in+the+world+every+time+I+fuck+a+nun+with+a+glass-covered+bone-carved+dildo.+Tear+that+dry+and+wrinkled+punani! [09:35] (ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ)+(ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ)+FOUR+HOTDOGS+(ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ)+(ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ) [09:35] lol [09:35] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-135-68.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:35] Found+you+folks+by+accident...decided+that+underground+should+actually+mean+underground...although+pop-up+occur+from+time-to-time.+The+revolution+will+be+VOIPed+AND+blogged. [09:35] they are back [09:35] So+assuming+that+I+know+how+to+write+cronjobs,+bash+scripts+that+change+the+color+of+my+prompt,+and+DOS+batch+scripts,+which+language+should+I+try+learning+first? [09:35] FOUR HOT DOGS [09:35] BETTER+NOT+HEAR+OF+ANYONE+BREAKING+THIS+ONE+OR+SEE+DELETED.+This+is+a+ribbon+for+soldiers+fighting+in+Iraq.+Pass+it+on+to+everyone+and+pray.+Something+good+will+happen+to+you+tonight+at+11:11+PM.+This+is+not+a+joke.+Someone+will+either+call+you+or+will+talk+to+you+online+and+say+that+they+love+you.+Do+not+break+this+chain.+Send+this+to+13+people+in+the+next+15+minutes.+Go [09:35] euqhrPoaHN8 (5c37132f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.92.55.19.47) left irc: Disconnected by services [09:36] this is not a joke. lol [09:36] BAEWreAEFsOs6 (c4d83b02@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.196.216.59.2) joined ##slackware. [09:36] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:37] pete` (~user@052.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:37] knut__ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-78-83.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [09:37] /ignore *!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/* should work in most clients [09:37] hahhaha [09:37] :) [09:37] big spam big idiot [09:37] :)) [09:38] No, apparently someone found a script [09:38] kids do stupid things with new toys. [09:38] heh [09:38] ArTourter (~artourter@78-86-203-211.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:38] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.3.66.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [09:39] four hot dogs was cool, im hungry now :\ [09:40] BAEWreAEFsOs6 (c4d83b02@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.196.216.59.2) left irc: Client Quit [09:42] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:42] Prodego (~Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego) left irc: Quit: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [09:44] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:44] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [09:44] agreed [09:45] he need to tr plus space his script [09:45] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [09:46] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:49] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:50] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.151.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:51] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. 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[10:18] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@merlin.syncer.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [10:20] ha that explains a lot [10:20] slackboy wasn't op'd so wouldn't do anything [10:21] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) joined ##slackware. [10:21] hi there [10:21] I wonder if I have to ban the whole wikia cgi gateway in order to stop that spambot [10:23] why not? noone has used it over the 4 or 5 last months and webchat.freenode.net works well [10:26] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [10:27] anyone using it could be told to /msg an op to be excepted [10:27] (in the bot's kickban message) [10:28] willwork4foo (~willworkf@82.132.248.37) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:28] rhisa (~risah@unaffiliated/riza) left irc: Quit: rhisa [10:28] sup guys? [10:28] anything else to add to this nightmare day [10:29] Sure. Look in the mirror. [10:29] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [10:30] that's not nice [10:30] haha [10:30] nono it can cheer you up [10:30] just be glad you're not as bad off as that guy is ;) [10:30] lol, quick rescue =P [10:30] the laest /. story did amuse me and provide some respite [10:31] latest* [10:31] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.151.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:31] ##slackware: mode change '+o slackboy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [10:31] phrag: the server shooting? [10:31] alienBOB: and ban wikia if you want, it's not common here afaik [10:32] adrien: yeh =P [10:32] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [10:32] for others: http://idle.slashdot.org/story/10/08/26/1254245/Drunken-Employee-Shoots-Server ;-) [10:33] dammit, i almost op'd slackboy this morning, but by the time i'd done an id check, something else distracted me =P [10:33] Alonea (~Alonea@24-155-251-98.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [10:33] ha phrag ADHD FTW [10:34] if it wasn't a cute girl, you should have remained concentrated ;-) [10:34] well, I most stuff working. There is a strange thing on starup. Something about video mode 305 not valid and I get a list and 315 is the good one (I might have that reversed on the 305 and 315) [10:35] and the other thing is when I plug in headphones, audio comes out of both speakers and headphones. [10:36] That's on an EEEPC? [10:36] arfon: yeah [10:36] oh, and volume buttons don't work either [10:37] It's early for me... the 305/315.. that's on startup and not startx? [10:37] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.3.66.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:37] right after Lilo picks Linux. [10:37] Alonea tried any alsa model options when alsa starts? [10:37] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.151.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [10:37] then it does its boot, then switches to the pretty font with the tux penguins at top [10:38] BlackToW3x (~krotouyy@41.140.16.140) joined ##slackware. [10:38] gnubien: where would I look at what you mean? and I had this same issue on ubuntu as well [10:38] I can't remember what it says exactly but when you installed lilo, did you tell it to use the standard framebuffer or did you choose an XxYxZ one? [10:39] Ah, you chose XxYxZ [10:39] arfon: its early for me too. Got woken up. and I choose one, and those numbers all start with 700, and it does go to it after that initial stuff [10:39] It's safer just to choose the standard one.... [10:39] Alonea: change the /etc/lilo.conf vga entry to normal [10:39] sahko: kk [10:39] imprazaguy (~imprazagu@118-168-192-36.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:40] Alonea: alsa model options are based on your currently install alsa drivers version: cat /proc/asound/version and your sound cards codec: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 |grep odec: [10:40] Alonea: once you have that info i can paste a url for you to search for model options [10:41] Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21. and... [10:41] Codec: Realtek ALC269 [10:41] ok [10:42] Alonea: search fot 269 at this url and see if any model option descriptions look right... [10:42] Alonea search for the model options for your sound cards codec at http://home.roadrunner.com/~infofiles/models/model.options.for.alsa.21 [10:42] admboom, adrien: haha [10:43] imprazaguy (imprazagu@118-168-192-36.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware. [10:43] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [10:43] BlackToW3x (krotouyy@41.140.16.140) left ##slackware. [10:44] gnubien: well, as my eeepc is not one of those models I guess all there is is Basic Preset [10:45] have a EEEPC 1001P [10:45] Alonea how old is your PC? days? weeks? months? years? [10:46] gnubien: less than a year. A few months old [10:47] Alonea: tried modprobe snd-hda-intel model=eeepc-p901 after you rmmod snd-hda-intel? [10:47] Alonea: those commands will not work in some DE's who have sound servers like kde,gnome and xfce [10:49] gnubien: yeah, using xfce [10:50] gnubien: also this model was released sometime in January of this year [10:50] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [10:50] Alonea: ok, you have to either close all DE and WM and try the commands from command line in tty or edit a file, you decide [10:51] prefer editing a file, but I can do either. [10:51] Alonea: alsa drivers 1.0.23 does not have any new model options for your pc [10:52] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [10:52] gnubien: figures. ^_^ [10:52] Alonea: this file may not be right for newest slackware: /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf [10:52] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [10:53] Alonea: add this line to the right file: options snd-hda-intel model=eeepc-p901 [10:53] Alonea: then reboot, run alsamixer and setup new controls and unmute them, test sound and mic [10:53] do I make a modprobe.conf file? [10:54] Alonea: ls /etc/modprobe.d/ [10:55] BLACKLIST-nouveau.conf bluetooth.conf psmouse.conf [10:55] blacklist.conf isapnp.conf usb-controller.conf [10:55] lmao2k (~nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:55] phAnt0mtr0jAn (~nastyfish@bas1-calgaryqa-1242361508.region2.highspeedunplugged.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [10:55] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:56] Alonea: ok, as root create /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf and add this line to the file: options snd-hda-intel model=eeepc-p901 [10:57] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-2-200.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [10:58] ok, restarting to test out lilo and this [10:58] Alonea (~Alonea@24-155-251-98.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:58] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [10:59] Action: arfon crosses fingers [11:00] (keeps finger vampires away) [11:00] hah [11:00] You wouldn't want them sparkling all over the place [11:00] So... If ppl have vampire problems on TV, why not just get crosses tatoo'd on their necks...??? [11:01] Alonea (~Alonea@24-155-251-98.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [11:01] ok, back gnubien [11:01] They couldn't even touch you [11:01] unless you don't have faith [11:01] Sparkle vampires = ghey vampire make-overs [11:01] Alonea: run this and umute and set volumes: alsamixer -c 0 [11:02] What throws me off about all these new vampire movies and shows [11:02] why does so much of it appear to take place in the daytime? [11:02] Okay, crosses on your neck AND a George Michael CD in your pocket... You're covered [11:02] gnubien: shows same as gui mixer. audio still works, but if I do headphones, it just comes outta both. [11:03] gnubien: I can manually mute the speaker, its just a little inconvenient. [11:03] Alonea: common problem for fairly new netbooks and laptops in alsa, may or may not be fixed in future [11:04] Alonea: if you want to alert the alsa dev's to the problem then.... [11:04] gnubien: I won't worry about it so much. I will test out the mic here in a bit though. That is something that used to work for me, but stopped [11:04] Alonea need more info; run this command and choose 'upload' when you run the script: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh [11:04] Alonea post a email bug report at the alsa-devel forum and include the url that the alsa-info script created as a reference. file the bug under your codec for your card, its listed in the url that the alsa-info script created. http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel [11:04] strashniq (~Strashni@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:04] I need to go pull up my boysenberry [11:04] Alonea: you can do some searching at... [11:04] put it in intensive care in a pot [11:04] oops [11:04] foobarz are you here? [11:04] Alonea maybe someone at the alsa mailing list can help so search this site for your card or problem and ask in the alsa mailing list: http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net [11:04] wrong window [11:05] Anyone know a single line command for Alonea that will mute his speaker using alsamixer or aumix? [11:05] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) joined ##slackware. [11:06] arfon: man amixer, search for set [11:06] Alonea: man amixer, search for set [11:06] Easier to say: "anyone know of a sigle line...." :) [11:07] Alonea: amixer set Master,0 100%,100% unmute maybe change Master,0 to Front,0 and change unmute to mute [11:08] I'm surprised, toss a question like that out to a group of nerds and they usually fall all over themselves to be first with an answer. :) [11:08] hello can someone tell me [11:08] arfon: learn and share is the power of open source [11:09] i have a problem with 1280x800 - my desktop extends [11:09] vertically [11:09] although it shouldn`t [11:09] so how can i fix that [11:09] i use the VESA driver cause i couldn`t setup the SIS [11:09] driver [11:10] arfon, gnubien, thank loves. will make that macro as soon as I figure out the mailing thing. Also, any idea on my volume buttons? [11:10] sinuhe (~sinuhe@206.40.200.147) joined ##slackware. [11:10] strashniq: vesa doesn't really support "wide" screen [11:10] gnubien: aumixer- is -p the PC Speaker or is it the speakers? [11:11] so you're probably not using 1280x800, probably 1280x1024 [11:11] nah [11:11] now i am on 1280 x768 [11:11] and all is ok [11:11] (I'm sure that if you count the pixels, you'll find 1024 ones :-) ) [11:11] 1280x800 - it extends vertically [11:11] Sorry Alonea, I never bother with volume buttons.... [11:12] my Display is designed for max 1280x800 [11:12] do you have any idea how to fix it ? [11:12] arfon: laptop or netbook has real volume buttons that dont work? [11:12] Alonea: laptop or netbook has real volume buttons that dont work? [11:12] allend (~allend@d58-110-172-222.sun5.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [11:12] Alonea: What I would do if I were you- make a single line script called 'mute' and put in it a line LIKE aumix -p 0 [11:12] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:13] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [11:13] Then make an 'unmute' script and put in aumix -p 7 [11:13] how to check if perl is installed on my slackware? [11:13] I'm not sure the aumix command is correct.... [11:13] arfon: amixer -q sset Master,0 toggle if its on then it turns it off and visa versa [11:13] which perl [11:14] I don't think he wnats Master, that should kill headphones too. [11:14] arfon: 'Front' control on lappys does the trick ususally [11:15] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [11:15] arfon: mutes the front speakers which are the onboard speakers [11:15] ok last question [11:15] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:15] Really? I did not know that... I was wondering about that when I didn't see a "speakers" option in aumix [11:15] i want when i startx -to automatically change my resolution to 800x600 and then to 1024x7** [11:16] hi guys, a quick q. I remember seeing a shell command that disables receiving syslog/kernel notifications to the console. anyone can remind me? [11:16] arfon: no 'speakers' just some control listed in 'amixer' [11:16] gnubien: yes, sorry. they do nothing. I have to hold down Fn and do F10,11,and 12 to mute, lower, and raise normally. [11:16] was ''stty something'' or another :-/ [11:17] strashniq: Out of curosity, why do you want it to change? [11:17] Alonea: usually not supported in alsa, try the amixer set and amixer -q sset Master,0 toggle or amixer -q sset Front,0 toggle commands [11:17] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-2-200.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:17] arfon when i start my x - it doesnt fit to the borders of my Display ,so i change the resolution and it fixes [11:17] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:17] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.12.49.114) joined ##slackware. [11:18] arfon that`s why i want ot make it automatic -sometimes its very difficult to change the res [11:18] Why not just set the correct resolution off the bat? [11:18] what do you mean [11:18] whatever res the X starts- it always don`t fit the Display [11:18] hey [11:18] gnubien: I will say that volume worked in ubuntu, and I think I remember having to set them manually in slackware on another laptop a couple years back. its been too long [11:18] arfon if you have better idea- please go ahead [11:19] If you have a 1024x800 resolution screen, why not just set X to 1024x800? [11:19] is there a single command I can use with xset to prevent the display from going black after twenty minutes [11:19] I used to use a series of three different xset command but I'm pretty sure only one of them was necessary [11:19] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [11:19] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [11:19] and now I can't remember any of them [11:19] arfon - i have linux for less than 24 hours -i don`t know what you are talking about [11:19] Alonea: alsa changes constantly, some features are added and some removed with each new alsa version [11:19] the man page has like five different things that look like they're supposed to do it [11:19] strashniq: Ah... [11:19] but they never work [11:20] You should be able to set X to use the correct resolution for your screen, [11:20] arfon how should i do that -explain so i can test [11:20] what graphics card do you have strashniq? [11:20] Back in the "olden days" you could set the modeline in xorg.conf and have it work.... [11:20] gnubien: I am just wondering if I can make the keys work manually is all. its not that big a deal really. [11:21] indubitableness its a SIS 662 - the built-in driver doesn`t work at all [11:21] I don't know how to specify the correct resolution now but, one of the smart guys here should be able to tell you how to set X's resolution.... [11:21] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [11:21] I don't even know what kind of card that is [11:21] Ah, I forgot about your SiS problem.... That makes it difficult [11:21] I may not be able to help [11:22] I know for a fact I can't help [11:22] Alonea: xbindkeys [11:22] so I'll just be quiet [11:22] arfon -sadly i was fighting with it for almost a day and night [11:22] i think this is the best option -Vesa in almost max resolution [11:22] Welcome to the world of weird hardware... :( [11:23] arfon how can i make a script that starts after the start of X ? [11:23] strashniq, see ~/.xinitrc [11:24] permission denied ? [11:24] gnubien: thankyou! I knew there was something I did before. Will look at that. [11:24] you guys are the best. makes a girl happy [11:24] IIRC, you can add it to your xinitrc file.... [11:24] What's the address to send the bill Alonea ? [11:24] strashniq, see, not try to run [11:24] We take Discover.... [11:24] slava_dp how to see it ? [11:25] i `m tottal newbie i need more explanation :( [11:25] arfon: hahaha. I am in so much debt right now. Unemployed for near a year. just got a co-op and start in a couple weeks. take IOUs? [11:25] strashniq, use a viewer or an editor. viewers: less, more. editors: nano, pico, joe, vi, vim, emacs. [11:25] Alonea: Been there... Was OOW for 1.5 years... :( [11:25] Alonea sure, have fun [11:26] OT: Anyone here with PCI Compliance experience? I've got a qeustion regarding WAF and SSL off-loaders for credit-card transactions. [11:26] slava _dp what should i look for ? [11:26] arfon: sucky. at least I get a job where I do to do fun stuff [11:26] Action: arfon is jealous [11:26] Alonea: what is your locale, USA? [11:26] strashniq, you asked for a script you can run after the start of X. this is the one that the system runs, and you may edit/amend it. [11:26] strashniq: do cat ~/.winitrc [11:26] arfon what is "cat" for ? [11:27] what does it do ? [11:27] Sorry, do nano ~/.xinitrc [11:27] i did [11:27] the question is what command changes resolution in X [11:27] xrandr ? [11:27] Cat will show you the contents of the file [11:27] arfon -nice ,i learn something new [11:27] cat is used for concatenating several files in one file, but it has a side-effect of being able to show one file too :-) [11:28] strashniq, yes [11:28] That's not really a "side-effect" of cat. [11:28] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [11:28] well ,then i have to find out how to use the xrandr command [11:28] Alan_Hicks, sure it is. [11:28] strashniq, http://slackadelic.com/~thrice/configs/xinitrc.openbox is how I load openbox for example [11:28] cat simply contatenates any number of files or input together and sends it to stdout. [11:29] thrice` what is openbox (sorry for the supid question) [11:29] a window manager [11:29] Unless you re-direct stdout to another program of file descriptor, that's precisely how it's supposed to operate. [11:29] so, "that is the .xinitrc I use when launching openbox as my window manager" [11:29] thrice` i get nothing from this file - too much unknown stuff [11:29] thanks for sharing it [11:30] ok :> [11:30] strashniq: ~/.xinitrc may not exist, that means you are using the default xinitrc... [11:30] you can see that I do a few things before finally launching openbox, the window manager (including a commented out xrandr call) [11:30] strashniq, find your xinitrc, and append an xrandr call to the end of it. this might do the job :) [11:30] IIRC it's in /etc/X/xinit/xinitrc? [11:30] not at the end [11:31] if you put it AFTER the WM launches, it'll only get run once the WM exits [11:31] right. before the end :) [11:31] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:31] pgeek|| (pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [11:31] :) [11:31] slava_dp "xrandr --mode 1280x800 --mode 1280x768 -r 60 " will work it out ? [11:31] gnubien: yeah. CS kid at RIT [11:32] strashniq, decide on one mode. [11:32] slava_dp i want to change 1 mode and after that to change it to another mode [11:32] Alonea: ok, the co op you work at is about food,jobs,clothes,etc? [11:32] strashniq, then call xrandr twice. [11:32] oh [11:33] gnubien: no. I will be writing software for warehouse robots [11:33] nicer [11:33] "xrandr --mode 1280x800 -r 60 (newline) xrandr --mode 1280x768 -r 60 " will work ? [11:33] gnubien: very excited. [11:34] Alonea: which language does your robots speak? [11:34] try it, should work. [11:34] wish me luck [11:34] gnubien: C and I might get to do some gui in QT for the companies that want windows platform [11:35] tell me one way to stop the X except the ctrl+alt+Bckspc [11:35] Alonea: like sokuban in real life warehouse setting? [11:35] strashniq (~Strashni@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:35] strashniq, exit all X clients and X will end. [11:35] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A6E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:35] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] gnubien: yeah, like you know how bio labs often have a robotic system that retrieves all the specimens? or like you see in the movies sometimes for swiss bank accounts? [11:37] Alonea: right [11:37] strashniq (~Strashni@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:37] ahhh [11:38] the xrandr thing didn`t work well [11:38] just the first one worked [11:38] I want a robot to build me an aircraft carrier like on Gilligan's Island.... [11:38] it didn`t change the resolution for a second time [11:38] kwabbles (~mike@h-67-101-178-243.lsanca54.static.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:39] gnubien: so we write the software and then get to travel to the warehouse itself and set it all up for them. [11:39] arfon: haha! *suddenly thinks of Buffy Bot* hmmmm [11:40] Buffy Bot? Any relation to Maker Bot? [11:40] slava_dp do you have any other ideas ? [11:40] Alonea: setup the infrastructure or the inventory? [11:40] kwabbles_ (~mike@h-67-101-178-243.lsanca54.static.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [11:40] gnubien: infrastructure. [11:41] artvdroid (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [11:41] arfon: its a Buffy the Vampire Slayer thing...someone made a robotic copy of her that was chipper and often used as a sex bot as well as saving the world...somewhat. [11:42] Ah... Never watched Buffy.... :( [11:42] kwabbles (~mike@h-67-101-178-243.lsanca54.static.covad.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [11:42] Alonea: really cool stuff [11:42] slava_dp do you have any other idea ? [11:43] Sounds like a "oh crap, we've run out ideas and people are staring to notice our re-cycled plots" addition to the show... [11:43] gnubien: indeed. can't wait to start. linux based systems using vi. sonds like home... [11:44] arfon: a bit. there was those bad seasons where you face palmed. I do adore it though. [11:45] Alonea: nicer that it uses linux [11:45] AndroUser2 (~androirc@69.sub-72-98-229.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [11:45] AndroUser2 (~androirc@69.sub-72-98-229.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [11:46] ok who can help me [11:46] artvdroid (~androirc@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:46] is there anyone who got this bug when you startx [11:46] gnubien: yeah, they tend to only write software for linux systems, though they are starting to do other platforms, thus QT [11:46] which bug? [11:47] strashniq: tried editing xorg.cong and changing resolution you want to default that x uses? [11:47] gnubien - i don`t want ot change my res like that i just want to fix the bug with the VESA driver [11:47] have I mentioned I love installpkg? I don't remember that being there years back. [11:47] Alonea: good buisness plan: perfect it in linux, expand to all markets [11:47] strashniq, ok, which bug? [11:47] gnubien when i startx the Desktop is not correctly situated - so after 1 resolution change it fixes [11:48] ah [11:48] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:49] strashniq: desktop or laptop pc? [11:49] Laptop [11:49] hnubien i got SIS 662 - and i use VESA driver [11:49] you've been told how to set resolution at login, what more do you need? [11:50] either hack an xrandr call in to ~/.xinitrc, or create a xorg.conf [11:50] thrice [11:50] i want 2 xrandr commands to work one after another [11:50] ok ? [11:50] but in the xinitrc -only the first one works [11:50] the second one is not implemented [11:51] Alonea: the bots actually built the inventory shelving from parts or is it modular? [11:51] why do you two, out of curiosity ? [11:51] why do you want two * [11:51] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:51] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [11:51] strashniq, create an xorg.conf, perhaps [11:51] thrice` first time -fixes the bug,the second one -to get max resolution and i won`t have to do any changes [11:51] strashniq, you're sure you can't combine them? [11:51] shonudo if i change the xorg.conf - there is a chance i mess it up [11:51] perhaps [11:52] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.24.46) joined ##slackware. [11:52] thrice`: When he starts X, he siad the screen is shifted a little bit.. [11:52] not a little [11:52] its more than that [11:52] i don`t know how to make a screenshot [11:53] I mean, why do you need two separate xrandr commands? you can't fix it with just 1 ? [11:53] is it possible the xrandr to comply 2 modes 1 after another? [11:53] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [11:53] any reason you cant xrandr .... && xrandr ... ? [11:54] you're sure issuing *only* the second doesn't fix it ? [11:55] thrice` whatever resolution i select the first time after the X stops loading - fixs the bug [11:55] the second time - just to maximize the res [11:55] Elektro (~elektro@128.85-84-203.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Client Quit [11:55] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [11:55] ok let me try with 1 xrandr and 2 modes 1 after another [11:55] strashniq (~Strashni@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:58] Cr1kk4 (fabio@93-45-112-225.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [11:58] strashniq (~Strashni@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [11:58] ok [11:58] so ,no result [11:59] xrandr 1 or 2 times - no result [11:59] it complies the first mode and the second is not complied [11:59] strashniq, just a thought, but there are sections in the xorg.conf for both of tht things you want to do... [11:59] editing the xorg.conf may be the way to go [11:59] s/tht/the [11:59] shonudo would you help me out then ? [12:00] yeah, sure [12:00] hang on [12:01] let me paste my xorg.conf [12:01] Does anyone here understand named pipes well enough to answer questions? I'm writing code in C that uses them, opens one for writing, and does its thing. But as soon as whatever it is that reads the pipe closes, it kills my app... which I don't understand. [12:02] The only signal I'm listening to is SIGTERM, and the pipe closing shouldn't cause one of those. [12:02] strashniq, under the heading "monitor section" you'll have the option to set your horizontal and vertical sync and refresh rates (use the settings specified for your particular monitor) [12:02] Alonea (Alonea@24-155-251-98.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left ##slackware. [12:02] shonudo http://pastebin.com/mfzyR4uD [12:02] shonudo there are no settings [12:03] there is no manual for it [12:03] you may have to write this yourself (any chance you have an old xorg.conf to view as a guide?) [12:03] shonudo i have 3 old xorg.conf [12:03] you can find the values for your particular monitor on the web [12:03] this is the last and best [12:03] google it [12:03] its a laptop [12:04] it says nothing anywhere [12:04] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [12:04] and i can`t force the sis driver to work due to the lack of this information [12:04] strashniq, what brand/model laptop are you using? [12:04] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:04] Benq A51 (E) [12:04] the E is optional both A51 and A51E are almost same [12:05] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:05] shonudo just check the xorg.conf [12:08] strashniq: Take a look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1033851 [12:08] and go down to where a guys says: I solved the problem by downloading intel drivers from... [12:10] strashniq, i think arfon is right; the last post seems to be a solution that will work for your box [12:11] afron the intel drivers are for CentOS5.2 [12:11] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:11] i already read about it [12:11] i can`t compile the driver i miss some x86 header files [12:11] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:11] You should be able to extract the actual driver and install it on Slackware [12:12] i checked this website a long time ago [12:12] the binaries - not working [12:12] sorce - can`t be compiled [12:12] i know i`m stupid but not so much [12:12] Bah! I hate your laptop [12:12] me too [12:12] but i run Ubuntu 8.10 a long time ago - better res than the XP [12:13] so now i have this bug [12:13] the not well situated Desktop [12:13] Then let's go back to shonudo's idea.... Try and find the correct modeline... [12:13] i just need after the last module of the X been loaded -a script to run and change te res [12:13] *the resolution [12:13] Way back when, X used to suggest a good modeline when it barfed... [12:15] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:15] vinegaroon (~sam@124-197-6-55.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [12:16] I'm sorry I can't be more helpful but I'm the type who has to see the thing and play with it. :( [12:16] arfon: HEHEHEHEH [12:16] well can you connect to my Laptop via internet ? [12:16] thats what she said [12:17] Out of curosity, when you start up fresh, does "++" change the resolution and fix it? [12:17] lotec: :P [12:17] what is "++" ? [12:18] the + sign [12:18] when you are logged into X [12:18] so i have to press twice ? [12:18] if you hit + does it change res [12:18] I can't remember (becsue my screen works) but it may be CRTL+ CTRL+ [12:18] no changes [12:18] no change again [12:19] maybe i don`t do it correctly ? [12:19] SHFTCTRL+ maybe? [12:19] by the way i don`t have numpad [12:19] allend (~allend@d58-110-172-222.sun5.vic.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:19] What's the change X resolution key again??? [12:19] strashniq, quick and dirty: backup your xorg.conf, make a copy, modify the copy to elimiate all resolution modes and options you don't want, and try that [12:19] You don't have a FN + num key? [12:20] i have Fn and from F1 to F12 are in blue [12:20] baccardi (~nera@78.58.208.196) joined ##slackware. [12:20] shonudo if i remove all but 1 resolution -how am i bypass the bug ? [12:20] baccardi (nera@78.58.208.196) left ##slackware. [12:21] Well, when you are in X, there's a numpad +/- key combination that switches you between the resolutions listed in you xorg.conf [12:21] i'm not sure about the "bug"... the fact that you're not getting proper display seems like something that can be solved when the info in xorg.conf is correct [12:22] i agree with shonudo, something in xorg is borked [12:22] arfon i got no numpads [12:22] let me mess with the xorg.conf [12:22] backup first, then mess [12:22] You have to have a FN+Num [12:22] :) [12:22] yep make sure to cp the file [12:23] arfon tell me the combination you think i need and i will tell you what happned [12:24] On my netbook, FN+? = numpad + [12:24] Fn [12:24] what is the other key i have to press? [12:25] Does you "?" key have a little blue (or red) + on it? [12:25] arfon - nope [12:25] I really hate your laptop [12:25] arfon its on the left on my "right shift" [12:26] Forget it, I was just curious... [12:26] What is the Max resolution of your laptop according to specs? [12:26] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.151.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:26] those damn netbooks are a pain in the ass [12:26] 1280x800 in windows7 [12:26] and internet [12:26] i use mine for a damn foot stool [12:26] lotec: you probably shouldn't try to combine the two [12:26] but i would like to flush it down the damn toilet [12:26] Okay do what shonudo said... back up your xorg.conf [12:27] adaptr? netbooks + Ass ? [12:27] let me reboot and see what mess i have made [12:27] strashniq (~Strashni@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:27] o_0... this could be tragic [12:27] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [12:27] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [12:28] find the line that says mode:) [12:28] :) [12:28] hehehehehe [12:28] hopefully he made a backup... [12:28] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.151.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:28] He said he had 3 copies... :) [12:28] ah, good [12:29] He can delete the modeline in monitors? [12:29] I download the flash plugin which is an .so file. Where do I need to copy this file for Firefox to work properly? [12:29] did he run xorgconfig? [12:29] he can parse it down to the specific values he needs and nothing else, arfon [12:29] put it in the firefox plugins dir [12:29] arfon, where is that located? [12:29] /lib/mozill/firefox/plugins (I think) [12:30] for all users? [12:30] kleanchap, locate plugins [12:30] Thanx [12:32] strashniq (~Strashni@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:32] SixThreeOh (~SixThreeO@212.85.4.184) joined ##slackware. [12:32] well arfon the result is the same [12:32] quess whos back [12:32] SixThreeOh (~SixThreeO@212.85.4.184) left irc: Changing host [12:32] SixThreeOh (~SixThreeO@pdpc/supporter/professional/sixthreeoh) joined ##slackware. [12:32] Does slackware have a minimal/netinstall style iso? [12:32] i removed all screen resolutions but this one - but the result is still buggy [12:33] buggy same or buggy different? [12:33] same buggy [12:33] no change [12:33] SixThreeOh, yea use the cd and do a small install [12:33] SixThreeOh, slackware is a full install. if you don't do a full install, you'll face depencency problems later. [12:33] i guess the VESA driver has its "1024x768" and "800x600" that i can`t remove [12:33] It can't do a full install from the web? [12:34] the ftp server was overloaded yesterday [12:34] "Limit is reached" [12:34] used ncftp to get the cds [12:34] SixThreeOh, it can install from ftp, http, nfs, samba. [12:34] Wait by full install, you mean it compiles every single binary in it's portage tree and install them? [12:34] so don`t hope for that [12:34] Mowah (~Mowah@c-dd83e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:34] portage tree? LOL [12:34] hehehehehe [12:35] are you sure you're in the right channel? [12:35] What ever its equivalent is [12:35] lotec do you know someone good in making linux scripts ? [12:35] SixThreeOh, see http://www.slackwiki.org/Minimal_System . might help. [12:35] My problem isn't the system size [12:35] strashniq, yes [12:35] it's having to download a whole dvd [12:35] strashniq, www.google.com [12:35] can anyone go here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2773&DwnldID=15443&lang=eng [12:35] lotec - i did this yesterday and today [12:35] When most other non-mickey mouse distros manage a netinstall iso. [12:36] ..and snag the driver package and tell me if strashniq's driver is in there? [12:36] strashniq: ok well so the probley is that the res is messed up right? [12:36] i have been here [12:36] SixThreeOh, yes, we have a netinstall iso. alien used to have one, let me look... [12:36] lotec the problem is that when X starts - the borders of the Desktop don`t fit the borders of the Display [12:37] i will make a screen shot for you [12:37] SixThreeOh, there you go. http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackboot/mini/ [12:37] strashniq, yea your res is not right [12:37] well after i go to 800x600 and revert -all is ok [12:37] even perfect [12:37] ok [12:37] so at 800x600 the res looks good right? [12:37] nah [12:38] nice thanks :) [12:38] when i change to any resolution - the borders fit , not only 800x600 [12:38] Action: slava_dp forwards SixThreeOh's thanks to alienBOB :-) [12:38] if X starts with 800x600 -and i change to any other res - it fixes [12:38] ok [12:38] u using KDE? [12:38] yeah [12:38] KDE [12:39] what else can i use ? [12:39] to be honest i have seen this problem before, but not on a netbook [12:39] XFCE, TWM [12:39] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:39] strashniq, run xwmconfig to see what you have. [12:39] Fluxbox.. FVWM [12:39] it was on some Japan monitor, that did 1080P [12:39] ok [12:39] slava_dp what to choose ? [12:39] strashniq, i would xwmconfig like slave said [12:39] strashniq, you can also run this and other config scripts of slackware if you run ''pkgtool'' -> setup. [12:40] lotec, I'm not a slave. Use tab completion. [12:40] if that does not work, boot a live cd see if you have the problem in there [12:40] lotec [12:40] i do have this problem [12:40] i did that before [12:40] strashniq, you need to dump the 1024x768, 800x600 stuff and replace it with values that work with your monitor i think [12:40] even on Backtrack 3 - its same [12:40] shonudo , i think the res you point are part of the VESA [12:41] there's no part of the xorg.conf that can't be modified; change the values [12:41] slave_dp sounds dirty :D [12:41] i changed [12:41] and? [12:41] I think the correct answer is to download the correct intel driver... sis_drv.so [12:41] shonudo there is only 1 res in my conf file [12:41] arfon [12:41] how many times i should tell you [12:41] these drivers don`t work [12:41] Action: slava_dp hits lotec with an armchair [12:41] "Wrong symbol" .. [12:42] i tried the sorce [12:42] can`t compile [12:42] Try a binary [12:42] i have banged my head more than 24 hours [12:42] Action: lotec bust threw the armchair with his ninja sword, and throws a start at slava_dp [12:42] binary = sis_drv.so [12:42] sis_drv.so not working [12:42] Welcome to the world of wierd hardware... [12:42] both [12:43] strashniq, what kind of netbook is this? [12:43] Benq A 51/A51E - they are same but mine doesn`t have cardreader [12:43] xwmconfig is done [12:43] why cant people just buy normal stuff? like the acer or dell netbooks [12:43] ? [12:43] xfce [12:43] lotec [12:44] i didn`t know anything about PC [12:44] at that time [12:44] They use weird hardware too [12:44] absolutely anything [12:44] ok let me restartx [12:44] strashniq (~Strashni@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:44] They buy whomever parts will work with windows and is cheap [12:44] strashniq, i am sure it has been said, but it is allways good to check for hardware compatability first [12:45] THAT'S why Broadcom is everywhere [12:45] arfon, but there usually parts that linux can use also [12:45] there still shit [12:45] so sleepy [12:45] but I can't sleep [12:45] but benq that is a projector company [12:45] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.24.46) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:45] I've got parts in my 64 Compaq that even WINDOWS can't use.... [12:46] people, can anyone tell me how to startx without a plugged-in monitor? I just need to start it on a server in the background to run one program, but the intel driver barfs at me that it can't find a monitor and fails to start. [12:46] VNC server slava_dp ? [12:47] correction: VNC SERVER! slava_dp [12:47] Strashniq (~root@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:47] hello [12:47] can you tell me where is the change resolution option in window maker ? [12:47] well? work? [12:48] i have to check something [12:48] where to find the resolution change in window maker [12:48] i started irssi in a terminal [12:48] ah, cool, I got it to work. just fed vesa instead of intel in xorg.conf, and it worked. [12:48] i can`t find anything [12:48] slava_dp what do you mean ? [12:49] ^ was for arfon. [12:49] slava_dp [12:49] where is the screen resolution change menu in the windowmaker ? [12:49] :( Nice fix but now you can't remote into it to check your proggie.... [12:49] Strashniq: xorg.conf [12:50] ardon how ot change the resolution in windowmaker [12:50] SHFTCRTL+ SHFTCTRL- [12:50] don`t make me repeat pls [12:50] arfon, I won't need to check it :-) [12:50] strasniq, there is no graphical in there [12:50] have to do it by hand [12:50] lotec -tell me how the menu should look like [12:50] Strashniq, open a terminal, run xrandr. [12:51] yeah ? [12:51] then ? [12:51] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware ("take care..."). [12:51] SHFTCTRL+ (and -) cycles X through your defined resolution that are specified in xorg.conf [12:51] arfon if i want to do this i have to close the irssi [12:52] + [12:52] you see - it types [12:52] Strashniq (~root@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) left irc: Client Quit [12:52] :) [12:52] CTRL + should NOT type [12:52] ea_suter (~easuter@clv-23.temp.uevora.pt) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:52] Strashniq (~root@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:53] well shiftctrl + or - ======== no result [12:53] Strashniq: Your Fn key, what color is it? [12:53] blue [12:53] what else could it be ?> [12:53] arfon [12:53] Do you see a little blue "+" anywhere on your keyboard? [12:53] your keys are colored? [12:53] (Mine's red) [12:53] how a windows user can change the resolution in graphical type "windowmaker" ? [12:54] Mine are nooper, White [12:54] nope [12:54] onlu blue * [12:54] *only [12:54] You have a crappy machine Strashniq [12:54] why nobody answes my question [12:54] I can't believe they didn't map the numpad somewhere [12:55] i got only numbers [12:55] We did answer it Strashniq [12:55] SixThreeOh (~SixThreeO@pdpc/supporter/professional/sixthreeoh) left irc: [12:55] ok [12:55] let me see [12:55] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [12:55] i have some removed keys [12:55] Strashniq (~root@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) left irc: Client Quit [12:55] You set what resolutions you want available in xorg.conf [12:55] and then cycle through them with the numpad + and - keys [12:56] Strashniq (~root@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:56] well i found em [12:56] You don't need a GUI box to change resolutions [12:56] they are a little bit dif to see [12:56] arfon i need [12:56] just to see if the menu changes [12:56] *desktop [12:56] not menu [12:56] Strashniq (~root@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) left irc: Client Quit [12:57] Kenjiro (1000@unaffiliated/kenjiro) joined ##slackware. [12:57] good afternoon [12:57] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.151.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:57] guys, anyone here use audacious to play songs? [12:57] Hi Kenjiro [12:57] I try not to [12:57] arfon: :P [12:57] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [12:57] <--dragon player fan [12:57] hmmmm let me try it for a bit... [12:58] When I hit the X button, I want it to close and not stay running in the task bar.... [12:58] (meaning audacious) [12:59] strashniq (~Strashni@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [12:59] well xwmconfig and all settings - same buggy result [12:59] so i still have 1 choice [13:00] make a script that changes my res 2 times(one after another -after X finishes to load its modules) [13:00] strashniq: The correct fix is to find a working copy of the new intel/sis driver.... [13:01] arfon -don`t you think that intel hasn`t supported that driver for 2 years [13:01] arfon: my problem with audacious is that from time to time it just get stuck [13:01] The hack is to use the VESA and find the correct Modeline and set Mode to 1024x800 [13:01] I have to use "kill" in order to close the darn thing [13:01] 1024x800 is too small [13:01] The final hack is to set up a script to change your resolutions once X has started. [13:01] well i set up the graphic i want [13:01] Action: Kenjiro is now trying xmms [13:01] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [13:01] i just need a script for changing the res [13:02] THAT'S why I hate audacious Kenjiro [13:02] (it's been years since I last used xmms *grin*) [13:02] eoQFPjegoX (bd3ba070@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/ip.189.59.160.112) joined ##slackware. [13:02] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [13:02] eoQFPjegoX kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Is wikia the new mibbit? The new online IQ reducer? Sorry, if you're legit, find another way here - too much trash from wikia. [13:02] arfon: I thought this "getting stuck" problem happend only here, at work. But then last weekend it happened while I was home too [13:03] It's happened to me too. [13:03] That and the not closing when I hit X is why I quit using audacious [13:03] so... who will warn Patrick about that? [13:03] Kenjiro: theres qmmp in slackbuilds.org which is like xmms written in qt, and fits kde much better. [13:03] sahko: hhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm [13:04] Well, guys, it's lunch time somewhere in the world... BBL [13:04] sahko: will check that [13:04] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:04] its worth checking imo [13:05] arfon how do you set up your X server resolution( with that it will start with) [13:05] > [13:05] ? [13:05] / [13:05] sahko: i am downloading it [13:05] sahko, nice... a little winamp-like music app on QT [13:05] very nice [13:06] strashniq (~Strashni@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:06] it has many decent plugins [13:06] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.29.164) joined ##slackware. [13:07] reminds me of the old winamp 2.x players [13:07] i would prefer a non winamp like interface tbh [13:07] the interface is familar... that's not necessarily a bad thing [13:07] and it looks light [13:07] shonudo: yeah, even the winamp classic skins work [13:08] what annoys me with the inteface is you get 3+ windows so alt+tab'ing is a bit of a pain [13:08] FTR already made a request for that [13:11] winamp 2.x was the best [13:11] i didn't like the media manager, that was just bloat [13:11] yeah, totally agree with that [13:13] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:14] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:16] qmmp is nice! [13:16] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) joined ##slackware. [13:18] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFE5D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [13:18] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.151.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:18] sahko: I am testing qmmp now [13:20] strashniq (~Strashni@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) joined ##slackware. [13:21] arfon are you here ? [13:21] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [13:22] who can help me [13:22] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:22] people have been trying for hours [13:22] thrice` i got improvements [13:22] thus i thanks to everyone who helped me till now [13:23] *thank [13:23] including you [13:23] so , do you have a sound that starts after the X finishes to load ? [13:26] thrice` i understand you hate me ... [13:26] i hate myself too [13:29] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:31] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:32] Anyone recommend a good color laser printer in the $500 range? [13:33] yeah, a copy shop [13:33] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:33] or know any brands that are more linux friendly [13:33] unless you're going into production, you'd never make your investment pay off purchasing one [13:33] Skywise: okay, replace "good" with working :) [13:33] hp 's a good bet [13:33] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [13:33] honestly, its easy enough to send images over the net and get things printed [13:33] Skywise: Well they are cheaper in the long run than inkjets [13:34] laser? [13:34] check the price of toner [13:35] the only reason to get laser over inkjet is because of speed and you need production quality imaging [13:35] Ink is expensive and doesn't last long.. They often dry up when you don't use them for a month at a time [13:35] i remember the microsoft powerpoint presentation given to best buy that said windows was safer than linux. did it also provide this url: http://www.exploit-db.com/local ? [13:36] if you print so rarely, then a laser is even a bigger elephant [13:36] I'm not paying for it :) so the cost is mute [13:36] if cost is no matter then why not get the good stuff, like vapor deposition [13:37] the budget is $500 range.. [13:37] the colors actually blend [13:37] oh [13:37] just not my $500 [13:37] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [13:37] I'm just looking for linux friendly brands [13:38] and models.. [13:38] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:38] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:38] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [13:39] well newegg has a brother color laser thats network enabled for $400 [13:39] and brother has support for linux [13:41] i have a brother printer on the network and its a multifunction unit, so i can even email incomming faxes with it [13:43] strashniq (~Strashni@vlan-177-sliven-123.comnet.bg) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:44] Skywise: I dont have a brother can I have yours to sell at the slave market ? [13:45] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) joined ##slackware. [13:45] theres still a market? [13:45] lol [13:50] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:51] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:51] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:52] they don't just give good slaves away you know - of course there's a market [13:53] manwichmakeameal (tjones@97.86.29.42) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:56] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.170.29.164) joined ##slackware. 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[15:03] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:05] ok, when I was setting up slack I did a small mess up. I made a mount point for a flash drive that it thought later was windows and now when I plug in any flash drive it wont mount it saying I need root to mount it on /crucial (which was the name of the other flash drive I accidentally made a mount point for) [15:06] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-2-200.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:07] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-107-148.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:08] Action: alphageek is waiting for an actual question [15:10] I just want to undo what I did. To where it doesn't think all flash drives should be mounted under /crucial [15:10] Alonea: /etc/fstab [15:10] what he said [15:10] arfon: there we go. I couldn't remember what file [15:10] That was painful.... [15:10] :) [15:11] for the sheer hell of it, maybe do a thorough search through /etc, thusly: [15:11] find /etc/ -type f -exec grep -l /crucial {} \; [15:11] then poke at the results & edit where necessary [15:11] THATS painful too. [15:11] massive overkill, but I like being sure :) [15:12] Kenjiro (1000@unaffiliated/kenjiro) left ##slackware ("Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is"). [15:12] If it's worth doing, it's more fun to overkill! [15:12] the sad thing is, I typed that command completely from memory [15:12] it's best to format/reinstall. Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure. [15:12] You big nerd [15:12] ;) [15:12] Hi EJ [15:12] I was looking in etc, but could not remember to save my life. i am ok at linux commands, but it takes me a while. I only remember how to do specific things really [15:12] HI [15:13] How's that cute GF doing? [15:13] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:13] gf? tits or gtfo [15:13] john_dee (~id@95-29-10-2.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [15:13] heh, no chance of that one. [15:13] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:13] john_dee (~id@95-29-10-2.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:13] About a year ago, eviljames shared a pix of his GF, she was cute [15:13] I keep those pictures safely tucked away :P [15:13] hahahah I was in that pic too. [15:14] Aww [15:14] *hides breasts from alphageek* [15:14] You were? [15:14] heh [15:14] I must have been distracted.... [15:14] alphageek: 'grep -rI /crucial /etc/' :-) [15:14] oh, and --colour [15:14] He's not getting my chicken sandwiach either Alonea ! [15:14] ok, its fixed. just removed the line and now its all good [15:14] Alonea: don't worry, I'm just keeping with the tone of regular channel traffic [15:15] and is very moderate by ##slackware-offtopic standards :P [15:15] alphageek: I kid. I go to RIT. A female amongst nerds. Quite at home. [15:15] adrien: that's cheating. you're supposed to use as many commands in sequence as possible. bonus points for not using pipes [15:15] arfon: it's ok, I've edited the picture to remove the ugly face on the side and only keep the girl :-) [15:16] adrien: you're that jealous of how good I look? [15:16] tsk tsk [15:16] alphageek: ok, I'd just tar + xz the whole folder and unxz + untar it through grep ;-) [15:16] there ya go [15:16] adrien: NICE [15:16] I'm sure we can add one or two call to cat too ;-) [15:16] grep -r is not enough? [15:16] adrien: you've used gentoo, haven't you? I can tell [15:16] thrice`: more is always better :-) [15:16] (based on last comment) [15:16] alphageek: no, never ;-) [15:16] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left ##slackware. [15:17] I should share with you guys the Gimp'd picture I did of Pat years ago (that I just recently ran across on tinypic [15:17] alphageek: jealous of you? never :P [15:17] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:17] yay! i get to use installpkg again. slackbuilds.org is lovely. [15:17] \o/ [15:17] I tried to use gentoo once but it was when they removed half of the compiling (the gcc compiling at the beginning of install) and it made me sad ='( [15:17] I was in a distro flame war with some guy and I made this pix... Go to www.tinypic.com and search for Volkerding [15:18] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.3.66.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:18] damn, the previous message was meant for eviljames :P [15:18] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:18] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:18] I make adrien so jealous that he can't see straight. [15:18] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A6E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [15:18] BTW, maybe NSFW? [15:18] tss, you haven't seen some of my typos lately, like "kippies" instead of "kiddy"... [15:19] adrien: the one time I tried gentoo I could not get KDE to work. only gnome. if it can't do something like put on the right DE... [15:19] arfon: heheh :P [15:19] :) [15:19] I lol'd [15:19] arfon: lol [15:19] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-67.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:19] actually it's a good thing I didn't use gentoo [15:19] Yeah, our boy is da man! [15:20] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-203.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:20] why? apart from the observation that you'd STILL BE BUILDING THE BASE SYSTEM [15:20] *cough* [15:20] exactly ;-) [15:20] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> tuvok302 [15:20] poor laptop :P [15:20] well, now that I have a quad-core... [15:20] capslock = cruise control for insane blathering [15:21] MrX29 (Leandro@station.pop-go.rnp.br) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:22] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [15:22] but it's ok, I'm going to make something worse than gentoo: a kind of build testing system that will test libraries and everything depending on them each time something is commited [15:22] oh, and it's going to be distributed [15:22] I definitely have too much free cpu time =) [15:23] Use your powers for good, not evil adrien [15:23] use folding@home [15:23] for added cred, make sure it pulls all the required sources from cvs/svn/bzr/wtf for each thing built [15:23] heh, it turns out humans are better than machine for folding@home ;-) (well, sometimes, but combining both is best) [15:23] alphageek: of course! :p [15:24] and I'm actually serious, but I don't intend to use it for very big projects ;-) [15:24] Wouldn't you rather write a simple-to-administer mail server? [15:24] no, that's too hard :P [15:24] nothing quite like a crapshoot that takes days to find whether you won or lost [15:24] LOL [15:25] "and the winner is.. check back saturday for results" [15:25] heh, at least it prevents you from reloading the result page every five seconds ;-) [15:25] at least the result wasn't check back on Feb30... [15:26] ;-) [15:26] ok, I'm going to try to concentrate on writing some code =) [15:26] (or have a second beer) [15:26] Write me a block of Perl that will throttle STDIN [15:27] there's already a utility for that :P [15:27] ....? [15:27] to throttle a pipe :-) but I've forgotten its name :P [15:27] it's called....? [15:28] -_- [15:29] t0mm13b (t0mm13b@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [15:29] I'm rather going to write things like 'List.iter props ~f:(fun (_,name,_,_) -> out "@ ?%s" name);' :-) [15:29] throttle: http://klicman.org/throttle/ :P [15:29] I need to limit the amount of data coming in and time out a connection [15:30] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/system/pipemeter/ too [15:30] nc/socat? [15:31] pipemeter (like pv) is merely a speedometer. it doesn't do throttling [15:31] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [15:31] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:31] right, only gave it for the sake of completeness [15:33] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [15:34] Yeah, throttle might do it! Thanks! [15:34] my thought: write up something dead simple that reads from stdin & outputs to stdout. 2 control knobs. read size (bytes), sleep length (microseconds?) [15:34] oh, already exists? feel free to ignore me [15:34] So now I need to pipe data frim inetd ->stunnel->throttle->my script [15:35] & I need to go out to have a smoke. let's both report back on our respective success [15:35] Action: alphageek & [15:35] :) [15:35] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [15:35] <--at work, can have no success [15:36] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [15:39] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-141-202.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:41] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [15:41] M3no1ti0s (~M3no1ti0s@212.183.140.7) joined ##slackware. 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[16:07] phAnt0mtr0jAn (~nastyfish@bas1-calgaryqa-1242361508.region2.highspeedunplugged.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [16:10] Anyone here use mcabber? [16:10] yeah [16:11] Does it do yahoo IM? [16:11] its a jabber client [16:11] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:11] So that would be a no. [16:11] Oh well [16:12] thanks [16:12] you're welcome [16:13] If your jabber server offers a Yahoo transport, then you can configure the transport so that the jabber server logs you into Yahoo [16:14] I use that to logon to my MSN account for instance, while using a Jabber client [16:15] I haven't played enough with IM/jabber to know what in the heck you are talking about... :( [16:15] like bitlbee [16:15] Can I setup a jabber server and get a yahoo plugin? [16:16] arfon, yes. Something like spectrum would probably do the trick. http://spectrum.im/projects/spectrum/wiki [16:16] I dont care what those Gentoo guys say, you guys are okay! [16:17] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [16:17] *heave* [16:18] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] arfon: keep in mind you'll need a XMPP server too. ejabberd is not bad. http://www.ejabberd.im/ There are several around though that could be used [16:19] What doesx an XMPP server do? [16:20] arfon: that's the actual server that's relaying things. Spectrum, is the thing that's pulling in your Yahoo chats, contacts, etc and giving them to the XMPP server to send off [16:20] bnguyen_ (~bnguyen@58.187.16.40) joined ##slackware. [16:20] Ah, nice.... [16:21] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-106-21.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:21] I've got half of my friends on gchat and the other half on yahoo. [16:21] mcabber seems to connect to gchat okay [16:22] I was looking at zinc (again) for the yahoo chat [16:22] what about using finch? [16:22] Never heard of finch [16:22] it's the console version of Pidgin [16:23] finch is pidgin's cli [16:23] or if you're into using your irc client for everything, look into bitlbee [16:23] then you can use gtalk and yim with irssi or whatever [16:23] bnguyen (~bnguyen@58.187.16.66) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:23] That would be great [16:24] say that again plz raela [16:25] It would be VERY nice if I could use irssi for all of my chats [16:29] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [16:31] yes.. look up bitlbee [16:32] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] bitlbee++ [16:33] I recently moved and now one of my boxes (server) that runs slackware 12 is not willing to come online. The network activity LED lights up on the mobo port, but doesn't flicker. Since I do not have a monitor for this machine, I am clueless as to what is going on [16:33] is there a workaround? [16:34] I have tried rebooting everything, the router, the box, the cable modem, still no luck. [16:35] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:35] Also, when I try to shut down the machine manually by pressing the power button on the front face, it immediately turns off. That's not what I experienced before. It usually took about 3 seconds for the shutdown, now it does that instantly. [16:35] cryptic0: did you set a static IP ? [16:35] thumbs: yes [16:35] cryptic0: my guess is that your kernel is panicking. [16:35] dang [16:36] will static ip be a problem? I can remove that temporarily [16:36] cryptic0: no, it's not. [16:36] I have set static ip on the router [16:36] cryptic0: from the looks of it, I don't think it's even initializing the network script. [16:36] It amazes me that a beautifully running workhorse suddenly decided to shit [16:37] so getting a monitor is the only way to go? [16:37] cryptic0: i would venture so. [16:37] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [16:37] that sux [16:37] cryptic0: or unplug the monitor you're using now temporarily. [16:37] not using a monitor, don't even have one. [16:38] Alonea (Alonea@24-155-251-98.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left ##slackware. [16:38] cryptic0: You should have at least one old LCD around... [16:39] Reticenti (~reticenti@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [16:40] I guess you're right [16:41] cryptic0: it's invaluable for troubleshooting. [16:41] In the future, if you setup a getty on com one, you could serial into it [16:42] Old Elsie Dee [16:42] + netconsole [16:42] getty on come on? please tell me more [16:42] but it uses the NIC so it might be a problem (but it's easier to configure) [16:42] read inittab, an example in there [16:43] go into /etc/inittab and uncomment: #s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100 [16:43] or #u0:23:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L ttyUSB0 38400,19200,9600 vt100 [16:44] silly rob0 [16:45] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@109.96.234.183) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:45] Warning, you'll get tons of ttyS0 respawn alerts when you aren't connected but, you can ignore them. [16:47] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:48] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:49] jareth__ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[16:59] john_dee (~id@95-29-10-2.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: link closed [17:01] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@109.96.234.183) joined ##slackware. [17:01] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@109.96.234.183) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:01] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@109.96.234.183) joined ##slackware. [17:04] YAY! Finch works! [17:04] Now I can annoy half of my friends throughout the day. [17:04] Action: jgeboski is glad not be on that friends list [17:04] :p [17:05] WHAT? you're not going to annoy the other half? :p [17:06] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-79.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:06] lotec (~lotec@64-9-157-209.fwd.datafoundry.com) left irc: Quit: And Punt [17:07] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.3.66.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:09] I'm working on it... But until then, I can continue to annoy you guys... [17:12] not very happy how my code ended looking like but it'll work, and for your eyes: "val apply6 : ('a * 'b * 'c * 'd * 'e * 'f -> 'g) -> 'a -> 'b -> 'c -> 'd -> 'e -> 'f -> 'g = " (I don't get why people find it hard to read :-) ) [17:12] AlexElliott (~alex@client-86-31-166-142.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:13] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:13] You need a few more regex [17:14] these are type parameters, not regular expressions ;-) [17:15] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [17:15] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:20] mancha (mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [17:21] Gothic_Religion (Gothic_Rel@189.71.73.226) left ##slackware. [17:24] Is it possible to have dirs and files on diffrent place on disck after crash ? a) on ext2 b) ext3 [17:25] was ist das? [17:25] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [17:25] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:29] john_dee (~id@95-29-10-2.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:29] es ist fubar [17:30] |Slacker| (~cris@200.146.78.239.static.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:33] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:33] martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:34] hey guys, i am trying to install tuxguitar (for x86_64 from slackbuilds.org) but i have got a problem. it is searching for x86 version tarball and cannot find. how can i fix it? [17:34] |Slacker| (~cris@200.146.78.239.static.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [17:37] paul424 (~chatzilla@91.207.68.2) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722145641] [17:37] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:38] Mowah (1000@c-b288e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:38] ilker: are you a guitar player? how are you installing the slackbuild [17:39] ilker: the source and the slackbuild tar are all on the page for it: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/audio/tuxguitar/ [17:39] maybe there is a problem with [17:39] http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.1/audio/tuxguitar/tuxguitar.SlackBuild [17:39] it looks ok to me [17:39] jlarrew (~WallRat00@32.97.110.59) joined ##slackware. [17:40] ilker: try: ARCH="x86_64" ./tuxguitar.SlackBuild [17:41] jlarrew (~WallRat00@32.97.110.59) left irc: Client Quit [17:41] jlarrew (~WallRat00@32.97.110.59) joined ##slackware. [17:41] dustybin: yep i am a guitar player, thanks [17:41] jgeboski: thank you too :) [17:42] zoran119 (~zoran@ppp59-167-170-46.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:42] Buttom_Left (~nemrod@190.20.173.218) joined ##slackware. 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[17:57] arfon (~arfon@209.236.250.213) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:58] Action: el33t Ajoin the New Channel Friends #!/bin/env [17:59] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [17:59] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [17:59] Is it possible to have dirs and files on diffrent place on disck after crash ? a) on ext2 b) ext3 ??? [17:59] deco (deco@unaffiliated/deco) left ##slackware. [17:59] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:59] paul424: you asked that before.it still doesn't make much sense [17:59] cause I have several and some files and directories are permutated like a deck of card :~ [17:59] adaptr: why ? [17:59] because it doesn't make sense [18:00] "why" is not a useful retort [18:00] be more deescriptive. explain what you have done [18:02] I have a few kernel panics at startups after dev mount using ext2. After that the fsck always started. [18:02] gbonvehi (1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [18:03] piredorf (~john@79-76-9-205.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [18:04] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:06] also got a few lost+found dirs .... >_> donno whats that for >>> [18:06] it's where ext2/3/4 parks orphaned inodes [18:07] so you can examine them [18:08] I 've got dirs like : ojk8e2ntwog6de.pdf with files : ojk8e2ntwog6de.pdf which does not open. [18:08] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:09] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:10] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [18:11] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-68-160-53.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [18:12] in /home/paul/.mozilla/firefox/foobar.default/chatzilla/logs/freenode/paul are some dirs which are at /home/paul [18:12] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:12] hmm obviously some files in logs/freenode where opened during chatzilla session [18:14] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [18:14] jareth__ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [18:15] but what is /home/paul/.mozilla/firefox/foobar.default/chatzilla/logs/freenode/paul ? It cannot be a hard soft link .... cause it does not have all my files .... [18:15] Action: paul424 doesn't intend to study inode now [18:15] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Quit: Saindo [18:15] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:17] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@lbb-dslst.69616810.amaonline.com) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [18:17] artvdroid (~androirc@114.sub-97-0-55.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [18:18] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) joined ##slackware. [18:19] Roin (~florian@p5B2BFE5D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [18:20] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] 'hard soft link'? [18:24] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [18:24] hard or soft link [18:24] which part of my description was unclear ? [18:25] it's where ext2/3/4 parks orphaned inodes [18:25] bnguyen_ (~bnguyen@58.187.16.40) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:25] I DO undestand that. I said something about my dir structure [18:26] I lost my freenodes logs ....argghhh [18:27] oxiredo_ro (~oxiredo@109.96.234.183) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:27] Sappys (~Sappy@84.237.184.173) joined ##slackware. [18:28] Is there anything constructive I can do about it ? [18:29] artvdroid (~androirc@114.sub-97-0-55.myvzw.com) left irc: Quit: Bye [18:29] Er [18:29] How did you lose them? [18:29] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:30] hello people!!! [18:30] kernel panics at startups, very with crashes while working on desktop. [18:31] which required reset plus auto - fsck. [18:31] So you haven't actually lost them? You just messed up your system? [18:32] Boot from LiveCD or LiveUSB, mount your partition and search for the logs? [18:32] If the partition is damaged, you can use testdisk. [18:32] hmm I am workin now on that crashed system [18:32] Testdisk recovers deleted files :) [18:32] If testdisk fails, you can try photorec. [18:33] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [18:33] If you can't find the files on that system, stop using it right away and boot from LiveCD -- try to use testdisk for file recovery. Continuing to run the system may cause the logs to be lost PERMANENTLY. [18:34] ok thanks. [18:34] They may already be lost and too hard for you to recover anyway, btw. [18:34] Anyway, seeya. [18:34] piredorf: ok see yae. [18:34] Oh [18:35] Wait [18:35] huh [18:35] You could try backing up your old partition to another hard disk. [18:35] Anyway, I advise you to restart and boot from LiveCD now, so bye. [18:36] dip (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:37] pierdorf: ok thanks [18:37] Okay :) [18:37] lotec (~lotec@pool-108-9-73-223.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] piredorf (john@79-76-9-205.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left ##slackware. [18:38] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [18:42] jcn` (~jcn@189.58.222.2.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:42] jcn` (~jcn@189.58.222.2.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Changing host [18:42] jcn` (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [18:43] crn_ (~crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [18:43] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [18:44] do other networks exist outside of the internet [18:44] ? [18:45] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] only one [18:45] www.meatspin.com [18:45] greetings and salutations [18:45] herro andarius [18:46] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [18:46] Action: andarius wonders what the hell he walked in to with that link coming right after the join :| [18:46] do other networks exist outside of the internet [18:46] ? [18:46] decnet? [18:46] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:47] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [18:47] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:48] feco (~feco@catv-89-134-162-190.catv.broadband.hu) joined ##slackware. [18:48] I have a LAN and a wireless LAN, but they're both connected to the Internet. [18:48] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [18:48] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:49] feco (~feco@catv-89-134-162-190.catv.broadband.hu) left irc: Client Quit [18:50] ?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet_%28file_sharing%29 [18:50] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [18:50] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet_%28file_sharing%29 [18:51] there are many networks no internet connected. some pretty big [18:51] s/no/not [18:51] aye interesting [18:53] paul424 (~chatzilla@91-207-68-2.ip.euro.net.pl) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722145641] [18:53] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [18:55] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.27.62) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [18:57] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.8) joined ##slackware. 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[19:19] i feel like ze idiot [19:19] bUzz_iN (~androirc@22.sub-97-161-147.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:20] bUzz_iN (~androirc@22.sub-97-161-147.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [19:20] my computer went down last night with a vid card failure...opened it up to find the easiest fix possible(reseat card, power up) [19:20] C00re: I havnt used Slackware for a long time, but i code alot of free software. Is GAdmintools available for Slackware users ? [19:20] bUzz_iN (~androirc@22.sub-97-161-147.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:20] Hopsa: is it part of gnome? [19:20] nyRednek: Worked ? [19:21] Hopsa: i'm chatting, ain't i? [19:21] nyRednek: Nope, gtk+ [19:21] bUzz_iN (~androirc@22.sub-97-161-147.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [19:21] Hopsa: never heard of it...if it isn't listed in the packages list or on slackbuilds.org, probably not [19:21] Ephedrax (~ta_maman_@AReims-551-1-107-148.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:21] sinuhe (~sinuhe@206.40.200.147) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:21] nyRednek: I meant, did the reseating of the graphics card work ? [19:21] Hopsa: yeah, it worked [19:21] bUzz_iN (~androirc@22.sub-97-161-147.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:22] neonflux (~neonflux@adsl-76-225-174-73.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] bUzz_iN (~androirc@22.sub-97-161-147.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [19:22] bUzz_iN (~androirc@22.sub-97-161-147.myvzw.com) left irc: Client Quit [19:22] Hopsa: as i said, i'm chatting, ain't i? [19:22] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-141-202.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Windows 7 c'est mon copain [19:22] Hopsa: spent all day in brooklyn, so this was my first chance to look at it [19:22] Cool! I have run over a net card with my car due to the evilness of having to trackdown what was wrong with the thing. Turned out it could only receive but not transmit! :) [19:23] Hopsa: i feel like an idiot, since i was calling tiger direct, ordering a new one [19:24] Ive seen that name before. Its a computer store ? [19:24] Hopsa: yeah, a catalog store out of chicago...usually cheaper than newegg [19:25] Havnt heard of newegg either. Nice that you got it solved though. Im from Sweden. [19:26] artvdroid (~androirc@114.sub-97-0-55.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [19:26] tuvok302 (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-67.dial.telus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:26] Action: Hopsa plays The good ol boys / Dukes of Hazzard [19:28] Turned up the stereo some... I like that song. [19:29] Hopsa: it's all right [19:29] ;) [19:29] Hopsa: look up "convoy" sometime [19:29] Okies [19:29] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-156.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:30] it's an old trucker song [19:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWO_AIh8drk [19:30] Hell yeah! [19:30] Action: nyRednek doesn't have flash [19:31] Action: nyRednek is a trucker...without the truck [19:31] Big pen, ... This here is Rubber Duck and were about to put the hammer Down! [19:31] hba (~hba@189.130.55.203) joined ##slackware. [19:32] Very good tune. [19:32] that sounds like chatter from "eastbound and down" [19:32] C.W. McCall - Convoy [19:32] ok... [19:33] keep the shiny side up, the hammer down, and the bears off ya, and you'll do all right [19:34] Theyre gonna amp the tax on beer and wine here in Sweden. Good thing i have built all tools required to brew my own beer. Lautering tun, Barley Crusher and Oven assembly. [19:34] shiny side up==on the wheels...hammer down==accelerator on floor...bears==police [19:34] All from scratch :) .. I buy 25 kilos of barley at the time :) [19:34] artvdroid (~androirc@114.sub-97-0-55.myvzw.com) left irc: Quit: Bye [19:35] v4nelle (~van@79.107.240.62) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:35] Hopsa: hey, good luck...i always preferred potato vodka [19:35] Sweet! Ive been watchin the truckers in Alaska etc on Discovery. We love it! [19:36] Heh, cool [19:36] Hopsa: well, most truckers consider those going to the ice roads to be complete idiots [19:36] jlarrew (~WallRat00@32.97.110.59) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:36] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: Quit: :q! [19:36] Hopsa: common sense dictates that we get *off* the road when it's covered in ice [19:36] 12 kilos of Barley sprouting: http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/misc/Beer/Images/Barley_Sprouting/Barley_Sprouting_12_Kilos_3_Plastic_boxes.jpg [19:36] the pay can't be that great, people have to keep comming back [19:37] Nice! ... cool nyRedneck [19:37] Nice! ... cool nyRednek [19:38] Skywise: they get good money, but they're absolute morons...why would anyone drive somewhere that has practically no traction [19:38] you got chains and weight [19:38] the ice roads on the river are crazier [19:38] Skywise: and on a sheet of ice, that really means almost nothing [19:38] Only 2 days worth of sprouting my barley... It seems to grow much faster when its a bit colder! : http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/misc/Beer/Images/Barley_Sprouting/Barley_Sprouting_2_Days.jpg [19:38] Skywise: chains are designed for snow, not ice [19:39] i thought they bit in to ice too [19:39] nyRednek: Spiked chains are [19:39] yeah these chains have claws on them [19:39] but its still not something i'd do [19:39] We are all correct [19:39] not when braking down can kill you in hours [19:40] Skywise: they may, but what if something jumps in front of you, like a moose(i've seen it happen)...it takes you a half mile to a mile to stop, even with spiked chains [19:40] oh they nail moose all the time [19:40] Skywise: yeah, a moose can take out your radiator [19:41] but then they call a tow truck and bring it back to town and a family eats it [19:41] Skywise: not something i'd like [19:41] moose are so majestic http://www.mooseroom.com/room_with_a_moose.png [19:41] Skywise: i'll drive across wolf creek pass in colorado in the winter, but i'm not gonna drive on an ice road [19:42] but they have some hellacious brush guards, but even they get bent up with a moose [19:42] and wolf creek pass is dangerous in the summer, when there's no snow on the ground [19:43] but those guys on tv are yahoos [19:44] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.127) joined ##slackware. [19:44] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [19:44] Skywise: they make truckers look stupid [19:44] they do [19:45] it seems alot more dangerous then it needs to be [19:45] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [19:45] Skywise: trucking is dangerous [19:46] dip- (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) joined ##slackware. [19:46] Skywise: but that is just stupid [19:46] Skywise: there's a reason they have skids on planes up there [19:46] hehe [19:47] nyRednek: Well, welcome back! [19:47] Skywise: and, tbh, until recently, supplies came in one of two ways: ship and airplane [19:47] rail [19:48] Skywise: forgot about rail [19:48] but trucking is the most flexible [19:48] Skywise: also, rail doesn't go everywhere [19:48] don't need a port or railhead or airport [19:48] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:48] Skywise: the pilots up there don't need an airport...just a frozen lake or flat spot [19:49] dip_ (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/dip) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:49] Skywise: there are ways they could make trucking up there safer [19:49] Skywise: but then they'd have to spend money on infrastructure [19:50] i think they have enviromental restrictions on construction there [19:50] like they can't bring in foreign materials [19:50] Skywise: bs...they're building oil rigs all over arctic alaska [19:51] and they have to truck out the snow when they're done [19:51] they can't leave anything [19:51] nyRednek: One thing i noticed was that they let 2 trucks ride along way too close to eachother. They could have crashed down a hill and that didnt look right. With better planning there should have been no possibilty for that to happen. [19:51] sinuhe (~sinuhe@adsl-75-55-201-218.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] Action: Hopsa Tapped a beer from the fridge :) [19:52] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [19:53] live ubuntu x'DDDDD [19:53] living debian x'DDDDDDD [19:53] I took the top layer and force carbonated it. A slight hint of barnyard, fairly hopped... all in all, not bad :) [19:53] Buttom_Left: ? [19:54] sorry just kidding x'DDDD [19:55] Why all the "D"'s and an x ? [19:55] Hopsa: he's doing aol smilies... [19:55] lol [19:56] Buttom_Left: Type ":D" at the end instead, or :XD [19:56] nyRednek: Yep, figures :P [19:57] that complicated x'DD [19:57] Buttom_Left: I can recommend xchat [19:58] Action: nyRednek uses irssi [19:58] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [19:58] No!, I use irssi, it's for serious people [19:58] x'DD [19:59] Buttom_Left: there are no serious people [19:59] nyRednek: I have used irrsi and bitchx but they both refused to fix simple bugs and thought that the program crashing when exiting was not a problem so i switched back to xchat again. [19:59] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:00] Hopsa: well, BitchX isn't recommended these days [20:00] I dont even have a Bitc :) [20:01] Been free for about 5 months now. Reminder to myself: Must get a new girl :) [20:01] Thats after 3,5 years [20:02] been married about 5 years now [20:02] look for a big, now that it's cold in need x'DDDD [20:02] not looking for a new girl [20:02] Nice! GW! (Good Work) [20:03] GG == Good Going. So many new and or old abbrivs coming from the gamers [20:04] nyRednek: Did you use to play Deltaforce 1 or 2 ? [20:04] I loved those games. [20:05] Brb, pipe[0][1] == 'y'; [20:05] doom 3 on archlinux [20:05] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:05] doom is always cool! I still have doom 3 [20:06] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:06] Even compiled one of the dooms, maybe it was 3. Its whats on Ubuntu i guess, but with a few small mods [20:06] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:07] crashdata (~crashdata@S0106002129688d6e.vf.shawcable.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [20:08] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:11] Hopsa, GG = 'good game' as far back as I can recall [20:11] Hopsa: i just played doom [20:12] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [20:12] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:15] slaker (~slaker@cpc5-seve18-2-0-cust609.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:16] troy (~troy@nexus.wireless.uwo.ca) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:16] slaker (~slaker@cpc5-seve18-2-0-cust609.13-3.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:18] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [20:18] hoobop (~user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [20:22] goj (~goj@p5488F86C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [20:22] goj (~goj@p5488F86C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [20:23] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. 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[20:33] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:34] _herbz: Not for 100% I suppose other than looking in the README or the developer's website. Most slackbuilds state clearly on the SBo page what is required [20:35] <_herbz> that you sir [20:37] dive: I think its both :) [20:37] nyRednek: Doom 1 :) [20:38] Hopsa: yah [20:39] I played some Unreal Tournament. Fairly nice game where you should (in one mode) crush the opponents and build/take flags etc [20:40] nyRednek: Sweet. that moster at the end was a bit hard from what i can remember. If you havnt tried it yet i think you should try "Plants VS Zombies". Runs perfectly fine under wine and is very cool i think. [20:41] The end boss is not so hard, but still puts up a nice struggle. [20:42] how can one tell if a chatter is running an open proxy? [20:42] Hopsa, <3 deltaforce 2 [20:43] hiptobecubic: I dont get that "<3", sorry... ? [20:43] You mean you played only Deltaforce 1 or ? [20:43] Hopsa, it's a heart [20:43] its supposed to be a sideways heart [20:43] its ghey [20:43] briareus, ur ghey [20:43] Dont use those unconventional things, looks odd. [20:43] also "it's" [20:43] how can one tell if a chatter is running an open proxy? [20:44] <3 is unconventional? did you just start using the internet yesterday? [20:44] hiptobecubic: its, it's how cares, do you ? [20:44] Hopsa, I've been playing UT since around 2000 [20:44] gg = good game [20:44] in UT anyway [20:44] Hopsa, you bet! [20:45] maco: "< 3" without the spaces looks like < 3 without the spaces. [20:45] what? [20:45] Hopsa: on the internet, <3 has meant "heart" for at least a decade [20:45] yep [20:45] (i'm not old enough to tell you whether it was in use in the 80s or not) [20:45] e [20:46] <_herbz> nice1 dive [20:46] I see that heart :) [20:46] o dive, thanks [20:46] But its black here :( :) [20:46] dive knows his unicode [20:46] <_herbz> haha black love ! [20:46] ALTGR+255 = ? /fast ? [20:46] Action: dive knows how to use completion in irssi ;) [20:46] 1, [20:47] 2, [20:47] brb [20:47] end [20:47] Its a space [20:47] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.118.30) joined ##slackware. [20:47] <_herbz> e [20:47] Lol! Superman is on tv :P [20:48] ch5 [20:49] briareus, easy try to connect to port 1080, 2080, 80, 8080 and maybe a few more [20:50] nyRednek: Are there any IT jobs where you live ? / In the town i live its totally dead. [20:51] And has been most all the time since atleast 1996 [20:51] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.224.156) joined ##slackware. [20:52] Hopsa: you can always start your own [20:53] Yould think someone would want to hire a somewhat good coder atleast to handle some servers or something but everything is out of whack. mako-sama: I did that in 2000, couldnt assemble enough clients. [20:53] Had to close down unfortunately. [20:54] This was before "the it bubble" or what the hell they called it [20:55] Dot Bomb, baby [20:55] dotnet is crap. [20:56] Hopsa: so what kind of job do you have right now? [20:56] None [20:56] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [20:56] and before that? [20:56] Havnt had a job for a year now [20:56] SKANSKA Sweden [20:56] It tech [20:56] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [20:58] your clients don't have to be in your town... nor in Sweden [20:58] xxcv (~asdf@c122-106-162-239.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: [20:58] I have many job applications out so maybe someone will hire but this reaks! Im a native to Sweden since 1530 atleast so soon we will have to go berserk i recon. [20:59] I havnt seen many jobs like that, maybe im looking in the wrong place ? [20:59] reeks, reckon. [20:59] reeks, reckon. thanks. [21:00] Hopsa: for example, you can start a web hosting service [21:00] Nope [21:00] I wouldnt want to do something useless like that. Excuse my language there. [21:00] I kinda agree. [21:01] we don't need more web hosting companies. [21:01] I code C and GTK+ and i know how to build LFS and BLFS / Linux and gnome from scratch or xfce or kde [21:02] I have my own dist and package manager made in c etc [21:02] Buttom_Left (nemrod@190.20.173.218) left ##slackware. [21:02] write a business software and sell it online :P [21:02] heh [21:03] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [21:03] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:04] I can learn to code in any language really fast. I can translate c++, perl or python without problems to C. I know some assembly. Hey, i could start writing some cool merciless viruses maybe ? :) [21:05] All my less talented friends have jobs in it. I guess i didnt fit anywhere. And some of them call me gowd in computings. [21:06] well, maybe some day after i get 65 or something and have retired :P [21:06] Crappy shit [21:07] talent does not correlate to success [21:07] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:07] neither does intelligence [21:07] ridout (~gm@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [21:07] Skywise: Yeah, your thinking about "Social skills" i guess ? [21:07] I completely agree [21:08] chance, opporunity, its not something in a cookbook [21:08] luck is important too [21:08] yes... as Skywise put it [21:08] google wanted to hire me before but i had a job then. Is google any fun to work at ? [21:09] grazymax (~grazymax@87.13.165.18) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:09] you gotta pass 4 interviews and fail at least 1 [21:09] :) [21:10] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.127) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:10] Id love to code with more people and have more people to talk to about coding but i have irc :) :) [21:10] :( :) [21:10] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.72.127) joined ##slackware. [21:10] well theres lots of community projects to get involved with [21:11] working is different and you don't have as many choices [21:11] I code the www.gadmintools.org stuff [21:12] My real site is here: http://mange.dynalias.org/linux.html [21:12] The other is just some guys making a webpage, but i like their efforts (when they have time to update the page! :) [21:12] and everybody in the world uses it. that's so precious [21:13] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-165.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:13] ananke: Hello anchor, how are you doing today/night ? [21:13] BsdNeo_ (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [21:14] ananke: Awake i see ? [21:14] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:14] yes. you're very observant. [21:14] WitBier (~WitBier@ip-1-36-179-93.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] ananke: Why thank you! [21:16] ananke: Do you need help with something ? [21:16] ... [21:16] let's see how long will you keep talking to me, after i no longer pay attention to you [21:16] Action: ananke bets 20 mins [21:16] From now ? [21:16] or now ? :) [21:17] ananke: how goes it? [21:17] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:17] nyRednek: busy, as always. packaging scientific software, and going through piles of resumes [21:17] ananke: sounds like fun [21:17] it's amazing to see skilled sysadmins applying for helpdesk jobs [21:18] ananke: i'd apply for a helpdesk job if i felt i had a chance in hell [21:18] heh, I'm going to have to do something before too long [21:18] The-Croupier (~Arbi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [21:19] fatalnix (~fatalnix@spirit.ggxmain.com) left irc: Quit: Supercalifragilisticexpialidociousestablishmentarianism [21:19] Ill be forced to sit in a place and rot all day long for a half a year until i continue on rotting in my home :P [21:19] i have 3 very good sysadmins, one developer, and two bioinformatics folks. that's just an overflow from actual technicians that have applied for this job [21:20] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] ananke: in other words, be accomplished or fsck off these days, eh? [21:21] or know somebody :> [21:21] nyRednek: seems like it. helpdesk crew was just hoping to hire another pc monkey, but based on the resumes we may get an actually skilled sysadmin in its place [21:21] knowing someone++ [21:21] Action: The-Croupier agrees ^^ with thrice` [21:21] Yeah, seems everybody hires friends who can be totally useless for any kind of tasks they are assigned to do. [21:21] BsdNeo_ (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:22] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [21:22] I know some bank friends, maybe i could sit there for a while not doing anything useful at all. [21:22] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [21:22] mm, my girlfriend works for a bank :/ [21:22] Hopsa: thats why you dont tell yourfriends where you work ;) [21:22] Nad package Microsoft programs :((((( [21:23] And [21:23] then again, I guess I can't be offended, because she's making 1000x more than you ;) [21:23] Heh, id rather die [21:23] but you're more skilled I forgot [21:23] grazymax (~grazymax@host205-158-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [21:23] Not bad anyhow [21:24] http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/threaded-samba-scanner/threaded-samba-scanner-3.3.tar.gz [21:24] I like that one, only searches local networks unless you mod it a bit [21:25] ananke: well, enjoy the hunt [21:25] Locates samba/windows filesharing servers reallY fast! :) [21:26] nyRednek: i wasn't even involved with it until helpdesk lead brought those to my attention today :) [21:26] It takes tops 1 second to search all hosts on one subnet and report all hosts running samba with their hostnames ans ips [21:26] artaud_ (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [21:27] I intend to do more things based on this one, multi-remote administration tasks etc [21:30] Hopsa: that sounds interesting ;) [21:30] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [21:30] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-156.dial.telus.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:30] should be nice, if its as fast as you are implying ;) [21:31] I'm not a great fan of network-manager, but it's worth it for pidgin's intelligent network behavior alone. [21:31] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-156.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [21:31] The-Croupier: Yep, i think schools or things with many computers can use it to shut them off after the day is over etc etc. Itll have to highly flexible but come with some Correct and exact examples. [21:31] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt7-port-156.dial.telus.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:32] The-Croupier: Check it. all you have to do is compile it and run the binary: http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/threaded-samba-scanner/threaded-samba-scanner-3.3.tar.gz [21:32] Hopsa: yeah, not only that, even internet-cafes ;) if you have as many pcs around ;) [21:33] Yeah, or clusters wich im going to use it for. To turn off the compute nodes [21:33] Hopsa: what other functionalities to expect? [21:33] Nick change: artaud_ -> artaud [21:33] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:34] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [21:34] Its fairly easy to construct. Just setup the master key and distribute the pub keys to the hosts then any commands will be up to the users. [21:34] hmmm, what do you mean up to the users [21:35] GAdmin-Rsync already does this so itll be easy to add this functionality to this new application type [21:35] No password required [21:35] or username [21:35] SSH keys [21:35] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:35] Only a cert is required [21:35] and a key natch. [21:36] And the correct host etc :) [21:36] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [21:37] http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/gadmin-rsync/screenshots/gadmin-rsync-main.png [21:37] http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/gadmin-rsync/screenshots/gadmin-rsync-remote.png [21:37] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [21:37] NatureTM (NatureTM@unaffiliated/naturetm) joined ##slackware. [21:37] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [21:38] hey, I have a disk > 2TB, but slack doesn't have kernel support for gpt. Can I just put the fs directly to the disk or is there a better way? [21:38] bnguyen (~bnguyen@58.187.5.109) joined ##slackware. [21:38] IBM has a review on it but i should have used posix_openpt(). Kerecki confirmed it worked ok on AIX after i made the change. [21:39] NatureTM: is that your only disk? or additional data storage? [21:39] just storage, no need for boot [21:39] NatureTM: then you can either lay fs on it directly, or better yet: use lvm [21:39] and pvcreate the entire device [21:40] I'll look at lvm, thanks [21:40] Action: ananke is surprised slack doesn't have gpt support [21:41] Oh, it was "Kereki": http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/aix/library/au-rsyncfamily/index.html [21:41] Hard to remember all the thousands of names [21:42] do you only enjoy talking about yourself ? [21:42] thrice`: who doesnt ;) [21:43] ananke: you can convert something to gpt right? [21:43] meaning you can create gpt drives right [21:43] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] thrice`: what's amazing that it will happen each and every day. [21:43] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:43] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:43] I talked about a review made by IBM on one of the applications ive made. Sorry if thats not allowed thrice ? [21:44] read more of your scrollback :> [21:44] The-Croupier, parted gave me an error when trying to write a gpt label to the disk, but it's one of the new 3TB Seagates so maybe it's jut the disk [21:44] i've yet seen anybody more self-absorbed. for years it's only about gadmin tools. every day, day after day. ohh, and trolling on top of it [21:45] thrice`: we're all narcissists...just some of us are less transparent [21:45] maybe ;) [21:45] thrice`: I showed some images of what and how i could build a multi-remote admin system on the cli because its what we talked about 10 minutes ago. Why are you complaining ? [21:46] I always like to share and bounce the ball with other people. If thats wrong then i have to disagree. [21:46] fosforo_ (~fosforo@189.45.2.99) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [21:46] NatureTM: yeah, i guess... but ananke said also, that slackware doesnt support it [21:46] (if i understood correctly) [21:47] Hopsa, reading the scrollback, so far I've gathered what a great programmer you are (especially compared to everyone else), how great your tools are, some specific references for your stuff (that noone asked about iirc) [21:47] so maybe its not the disk [21:47] Nick change: artaud -> artaud_AWAY [21:47] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:47] artaud_AWAY kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [21:47] The-Croupier: actually, i was surprised to hear that slackware doesn't support it. i don't know from my own personal experience, only what that person said [21:48] thrice`: You misread because i said compared to my friends that are also in it and some of them call my programming work gowdlike :) [21:48] ananke: i see ;) [21:48] thrice`: Why are you knitpicking ? [21:48] isn't it 'nitpicking' ? ;-) [21:48] sorry, not in the mood to argue tonight. try tomorrow when I'm work, surely I'll be in a worse mood then [21:48] it will be a while till i get a 3tb disk to check it, so ill have to go with you ananke ;)( rely on other ppls experience) [21:48] dive: you nitpicker! [21:49] indeed ;-) [21:49] is there a module for gpt you can compile and enable? [21:49] ananke: stop nitpicking, since someone else is doing it before you. :p [21:49] thrice`: I think i should have nothing todo with arguings. [21:49] Skywise: yes, its called nitpickgtp ;) [21:49] Action: The-Croupier hides [21:50] thrice`: Youre feeling sleepy, no need to void the bed. Alright! Move along sir! March to bed :) [21:51] nachox (~Ignacio@133-74-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [21:51] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/problems-to-install-slack-13-64bit-gpt-and-fdisk-778421/ <-- as to the 2 TB+ [21:51] fire|bird: really?! [21:51] but where can you download slackware 14 [21:52] Skywise: need i explain this? [21:52] haha [21:52] click the shiny link, don't ask questions [21:52] :) [21:53] the shiny link???!!!! lmao [21:53] it would not be too overly hard to build a kernel with support and include it on the install disc [21:53] The-Croupier: yes, the *shiny* link [21:53] goj|ghost (~goj@p5488EE0C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:53] Cr1kk4 (fabio@93-45-108-69.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [21:54] Ive got shiny shiny shoes / Kelly bundy on Married with children :) [21:54] ilker (~ilker@88.241.146.78) left irc: Quit: cya [21:56] goj (~goj@p5488F86C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds [21:56] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:59] there are soooo many shiny links, its paradise ;) [21:59] hehehehehe noobfarm.org #1777 [21:59] its like the pirate's treasure [22:00] noobfarm.org is always the best [22:01] there was another one like that wasnt there... something with bash or something like that [22:02] bash.org [22:09] inconnu (~user@69-165-217-79.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:11] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) left irc: Quit: Redb3ard [22:11] |Slacker| (~cris@201.22.54.151.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:11] lotec: #1337 or #133752T :O [22:11] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:12] lotec: But if you generate those packages and send them out the pipe its not so childish ;) [22:13] Some control-and-command centers will respond. [22:13] Hopsa, wtf are oyu talking about? [22:14] do you need sleep? [22:14] Like general electric used to do :) [22:14] hmm. nice. free h264 will remain royalty free [22:14] Skaperen (~phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:15] h264 cannot become unfree under any conditions. [22:15] good stuff. [22:15] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [22:17] Redb3ard (~SF0010MAC@75.110.202.83) joined ##slackware. [22:29] So anyone know a good youtube video? Like this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG9CE55wbtY [22:30] Alonea (~Alonea@24-155-251-98.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] ok, how do I get into something like recovery mode? I just want to be able to log into a terminal. Something broke and X is not displaying anything but a black screen. [22:31] rhisa: uhmm, http://www.ted.com/ [22:32] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-13-243.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [22:33] Alonea: Ctrl-Alt-F6 or Ctrl-Alt-Bkspc? [22:33] when its starting up or on the black screen? [22:34] Go to the first VTY, or on boot, add "3" to the end of the boot string. [22:34] On the black screen - the first should switch you to your vt (assuming you don't have all of them) and the last should kill X and drop you to a prompt (assuming you are using startx) [22:34] Alonea: Add: linux single [22:34] Or if that fails, try: [22:34] linux 1 on the bootloader kernel like [22:34] linux=single should also work [22:34] Hopsa: I need to get to a terminal first [22:34] there's no need to reboot and change anything about the boot for an X problem [22:35] This will boot up into runlevel 1 and let you start wo X [22:35] well, I turned off the computer slakmagik and it boots up black [22:35] Only runlevel 3 or 5 will startx [22:35] By default [22:35] ok, how do I get to terminal? ctrl+alt+f6 or backspace does nothing [22:35] s/3// [22:35] 3 should be text mode [22:36] Alonea: then more than X is screwed up [22:36] only runlevel 4 starts a login manager [22:36] Depends how /etc/inittab is set up [22:36] I have a bootable usb, but I dont know how to get into my system. I don't understand how to mount my drives [22:37] well if you changed it from the defaul you are SOL then. [22:37] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-13-243.om.om.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:38] Alonea: Its most likely just the driver thats borked, start as i told you and edit xorg.conf, put driver "vesa" instead of what you have and youll get X. Then you can google if there are any bugs etc. [22:39] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host86-135-176-98.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [22:40] Alonea: for ext 3 its: mount -t ext3 /dev/sd[PressTabHere] /mnt/SomeDirectoryThatExists (create this directory first or just mount it under /mnt) [22:41] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-5-30.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [22:45] Hopsa: how did you tell me to start??? I am still confused [22:45] tank-man (1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:46] so do I need to boot with the disk or not? [22:47] You add single to the end of the LILO bootprompt is you use lilo [22:47] You add "single" to the end of the LILO bootprompt if you use lilo [22:47] Or do you use grub ? [22:48] I just installed this last night and its been fine. I turn it on, I get the mass amounts of boot text, then black screen when it goes to logon screen [22:50] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:52] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [22:52] Oak (~silas@119.154.120.162) joined ##slackware. [22:52] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: life is finite, enjoy it while you can [22:52] Oak (~silas@119.154.120.162) left irc: Changing host [22:52] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [22:53] Alonea: Sounds like the xorg driver isnt working properly. Intel 8xxx card ? 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[23:08] Alonea: give me the output of df [23:08] hba (~hba@189.130.55.203) left irc: Quit: leaving [23:08] and pastebin me the output of ls /dev [23:08] It would be output that I would see if I ran BusyBox. [23:09] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [23:09] hmm [23:09] er, there is a devtmpfs, my usb stick at sdb1, and then the root partition I managed to mount which is sda1. I am in my drive at least [23:09] ok... [23:10] Alonea: chroot to your root partition [23:10] nyRednek: how do I do that? [23:10] Alonea: where is sda1 mounted? [23:10] to mnt/d1 just a folder I made up. I am running from usb stick that I used to install slack with [23:11] ok, run 'chroot /mnt/d1' [23:11] Alonea: then try to run liloconfig [23:11] cap (~cap@74.113.242.5) joined ##slackware. [23:12] nyRednek: ok. thanks. and if this doesn't work I can try the xorg config thing [23:12] Alonea: that's so you can boot off your hd instead of the usb stick [23:13] Alonea: then the xorgsetup can be run if, after rebooting, you can't run startx [23:13] nyRednek: I can boot from hdd, but I get black screen cause its set to go into login manager [23:13] Alonea: change /etc/inittab's initdefault to 3 [23:14] Alonea: do that before you reboot [23:14] nyRednek: already rebooted, going back...gimmie a sec [23:14] figabo (~MacOSX@201.165.118.30) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [23:14] nyRednek: also, while I am here, how do I set my default DE? [23:15] nyRednek: I ended up using the gui login manager cause I didn't know how else to change DE [23:15] xwmconfig [23:15] nyRednek: ok thanks. KDE ended up being horrid for me. liked xfce much better [23:16] Alonea: no kidding [23:16] nyRednek: I ruined my desktop in 5 minutes trying to get the panels how I wanted them. [23:16] Action: nyRednek is running on a pentium II dell, with 128mb of ram [23:17] kde runs out of memory before loading on this box [23:17] ugh [23:17] Alonea: First you must mount the system you wish to rescue and then: chroot /path/to/rescue/mountdirectory Then youll need to mount a few filesystems like this: mount -t proc proc /proc ; mount -t sys sys /sys [23:17] Hopsa: I figured it out. [23:17] tsccof (~tsccof@187.54.185.157) joined ##slackware. [23:17] Ok [23:17] Hopsa: we're way past that point [23:17] Hopsa: you said the stuff in backwards order so I didn't see instructions at first on how to mount [23:17] Nick change: tuvok302Lappy -> tuvok302 [23:18] Ok, i started reading but it was an entire A4 :) [23:18] and to repair an errant setting, mounting procfs is unnecessary [23:18] as is mounting sysfs [23:19] cd /etc/X11 then edit xorg.conf. Change the driver line: Driver "Something" to Driver "vesa" [23:19] Without proc not much will work ok [23:19] Hopsa: simpler...xorgsetup [23:20] Then he have to set everything up again, but possibly a good choise. But i always change to vesa if theres a driver issue [23:20] Hopsa: we're just trying to fix something so booting from system will work correctly once a reboot happens...dude, take a chill pill and let me help this person [23:20] Will do. [23:22] nyRednek: ok, I did change /etc/inittab's initdefault to 3, but its still a black screen once it tries to get to logon. maybe I didn't save it right. I did wq, but maybe I messed up [23:22] Alonea: first, does the machine show that it's booting or does it hang after the lilo screen spews a little text? [23:23] it shows that its booting. [23:23] Alonea: hit ctrl+alt+f6 [23:23] nyRednek: doesn't work. tried that earlier [23:23] Alonea: ok...then back to the chip [23:25] Alonea: mount and chroot to your / partition, and, first things first, change /etc/lilo.conf for the vga= line to read vga=normal [23:25] Alonea: after that, run lilo to fix that(that is an issue with some netbooks) [23:25] ok, mounting and doing chroot [23:26] Alonea: then set your inittab to id:3:initdefault: [23:27] ok, I checked inittab and it is set to 3 [23:27] Alonea: i think it's hanging when it tries to set the fb to a certain level other than vga=normal [23:27] Alonea: do you ever see penguins? [23:28] no, I have it set to vga normal because if I do it the other way it does a strange thing when lilo tries to start [23:28] now this is something amazing: to do more with the sound card really ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOo6pk6Bhcc [23:28] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.162.39) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:29] something about a video mode 305 not existing, so I then get a menu to change it to 315. so I set it to normal earlier to fix that [23:29] Alonea: ok, now try to reboot [23:29] Sounds like a modeswitch bug now. Hard to tell what happens if the screen is all black i guess. [23:29] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.78.248.176) joined ##slackware. [23:30] nyRednek: but I haven't changed anything. It was already set to normal and inittab was indeed set to 3...what if I try single user mode? [23:30] did you run lilo? [23:30] nyRednek: liloconfig? [23:30] Alonea: no, lilo [23:30] the command [23:30] to install lilo under the /etc/lilo.conf [23:31] s/under/according to/ [23:31] ok, I did lilo and there are 2 warnings. then it says added Linux * [23:31] Good [23:31] now try to reboot [23:31] jiraia (~jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a::35) joined ##slackware. [23:31] however before I do that, how did that change anything? lilo was the same settings before as it is now [23:32] Alonea: well, how is it set? [23:32] vga normal [23:32] santobob (~chatzilla@187-27-13-192.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:32] nachox (~Ignacio@133-74-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:32] Alonea: does the root match your root partition? [23:32] should I go back to the line way? [23:32] nyRednek: yes /dev/sda1 [23:33] ok, do a mount -A [23:33] er, how do I scroll up again? [23:34] shift+pgup [23:35] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:38] Or if the last command you did was this "mount -A" then run: !mount (Itll run the last command beginning with "mount") [23:39] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:40] Hopsa: it appears to not be entirely booting. you know how it goes to that smaller text after the bigger stuff after lilo? it goes black on the smaller text [23:41] custom kernel? [23:41] Makes it hard to determine whats wrong then. try booting with nomodeset=1 [23:41] or is it: "nomodeset 1" ? [23:41] NaCl: gosh no. I installed this clean last night. have no idea what went wrong [23:42] Hopsa: equals is prolly there [23:42] yeah [23:42] And mode-setting would usually occur after the initrd is loaded [23:42] Alonea: NaCl is a great slacker...has helped me through some jams i couldn't figure out [23:42] Alonea: Add: nomodeset=1 to the kernel line in lilo [23:43] ok, will try that [23:43] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [23:43] Atleast now we will "see" whats going on on his computer. [23:43] Alonea: which kernel? -huge or -generic? [23:44] grr. [23:44] Do you know if modesetting would occur immediately on loading if the module was built-in? [23:44] Hopsa: ^ [23:44] time to kill this [23:44] nyRednek: I build LFS/BLFS systems from scratch wo problems so im not very bad either most of the time :) [23:44] NaCl: generic I think. I have a netbook. eeepc 1001p [23:45] neBu (1000@neBu.ro) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [23:45] did you ever make an initrd? [23:46] Hopsa: the problem lies in the way LFS/BLFS is configured as opposed to slack...iirc. lfs uses strict sysV init [23:46] oh, this is LFS [23:46] is it? [23:46] NaCl: why does that sound familar. where is that file again? (it will take me a couple more to get back to the boot terminal from my usb drive) [23:46] /boot [23:47] Hopsa: and slack uses a hybrid between SysV and BSD-style init [23:47] It needs to contain your root filesystem, but if you aren't seeing anything after the bootloader... [23:47] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:47] nyRednek: I think theyre just programs acting in different ways. Heres how i build system base if youre interrested: http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/distribution/admin-packages/stable/new-dist/packages.conf [23:47] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:48] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. [23:48] ##slackware: mode change '-b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [23:48] NaCl: there is supposed to be an initrd under /boot ??? [23:48] Hopsa: i'm really not that interested [23:48] if you use the generica kernel, yes [23:48] Slackware's init is hybrid BSD/SysV [23:48] NaCl: there isn't one. [23:48] you need to make it [23:48] NaCl: and I dont there was one earlier either... [23:48] Hopsa: tbh, i'm a desktop slack user, and have been for over a decade [23:48] read README.initrd [23:48] NaCl: yeah, that's what i said [23:49] hmmm yay found my problem! [23:49] i will let it live this time [23:49] Okies, heres the normal packages.conf. Took some time to make a package manager and the install scripts but its fun: http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/distribution/admin-packages/stable/distfiles/packages.conf [23:49] nyRednek: oh, yeah, you did [23:49] :P [23:49] Actually, I was more saying that it reconfigured sysvinit to look like the BSD init system. :P [23:49] was trying to say, rather [23:50] I was thinking of trying to port upstart to Slack. [23:50] ki2azy: no tricks with a coat hanger? [23:50] but apparently next week I'm going to have almost zero free time [23:50] ok, back to lilo for a sec. I am in lilo.conf. where do I put that nomode thing? [23:50] after append [23:50] nyRednek, my first time using one. [23:50] Action: NaCl uses grub2 [23:51] NaCl: i'd personally like to see debian menu ported to slack [23:51] link me [23:51] ok, so append says "vt.default_utf8=0" [23:51] I think it goes in that string [23:51] do I put a space after the 0? [23:51] I think so, but I am not sure [23:51] this is the package manager. If anyone would want to test, use the --help provided and use the newdist parts 1,2,3 to build a new dist. Alter /etc/admin-packages/servers.conf to add the shown repository. [23:51] and put in, let me scroll up and see what that is again [23:52] http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/gadmintools-webpage/app_pages/admin-packages.html [23:52] ki2azy: oh, it's an acquired skill, sometimes mistakes are made and you have to feed her to the gators [23:52] what? [23:52] nyRednek, yeah. nah i was working on a linked list [23:52] nyRednek, it was crashing :( [23:52] ki2azy: ah... [23:53] darkrho (~darkrho@207.43.107.190.dyn.supernet.com.bo) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [23:53] Initialize the contents of the list to NULL or 0 first [23:54] NaCl: whoa, this initrd thing is confusing. I don't really understand what its for [23:54] NaCl: sorry about the flood...only meant to send that once [23:55] Alonea: the generic kernel doesn't have the modules for drivers such as USB or your filesystem [23:55] NaCl: then why did it work fine for an entire day? [23:55] probably because you are using huge [23:56] but that's just a guess [23:56] NaCl: how do I tell for sure? [23:56] the kernel is specified in /etc/lilo.conf [23:56] but whenever changes are made to that file, you must reinstall the bootloader (with lilo(8)) [23:56] Hopsa, i know to do that. it was crashing when it was storing the variables in the struct. before it even hit the list [23:56] Alonea: Did nomodeset work ? [23:57] use C++ [23:57] less pain [23:57] and it already has a list struct. :P [23:57] NaCl: under where? I see image = /boot/vmlinuz [23:57] NaCl, i am. [23:57] ls -l /boot/vmlinuz [23:57] ki2azy: Ok, naah C is great. C++ is for people who dont know that C++ is C :) [23:57] Hopsa: I am checking out this initrd thing first. It takes ages to reboot into my usb [23:58] Ok [23:58] tsccof (~tsccof@187.54.185.157) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [23:58] linked lists usually have a sentinel node somewhere [23:58] I should know this. [23:58] nomodeset will make you see whats going on. Maybe also add "noapic" [23:58] Hopsa, lol i know C is C++. just with a few things added [23:58] NaCl: ok. its huge. sorry about the mixup. I am not that linux savvy. I can do basics and a bit beyond. however I can learn [23:58] And some things totally changed [23:58] Alonea: the slackbook is nice [23:59] http://slackbook.org [23:59] ki2azy: Yep, but many dont :) [23:59] some parts of it are out of date [23:59] NaCl: also been over a year since I used slack so I forget some stuff... [23:59] C is fine until you start trying to do OOP with it [23:59] Alonea: patience is key. [23:59] ok, might as well try rebooting with this nomodeset [23:59] And it's nice to set up a machine that is less tempermental first. :P [00:00] --- Fri Aug 27 2010