[00:02] argh. Anyone know about guitar amp tubes? [00:02] (off topic I know, but nobody's said anything in almost 1/2 hour) [00:03] hmmm i've only had solid state amps :( [00:04] I've got an amp that takes an unpopular tube, apparently groove tubes, sovtek, etc. don't make 7189s [00:04] closest replacement I can find is an EL84, which is supposedly the same, but can't handle as much plate voltage [00:04] or I can buy a "new old stock" set of tubes made in the 1960s that's been sitting in a warehouse forever [00:05] go to guitar center [00:05] my question was: anyone here bought 40 year old "new" vacuum tubes? If so, good results? [00:05] jeev: bed time for you [00:05] deco, put down your itouch and stop ircing off it [00:05] jeev: i haz no itouch! [00:06] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:07] either guitar center doesn't carry 7189 tubes, or else their search engine is broken (but it did find EL84's when I searched for that, so...) [00:10] go there, they'll find anything [00:10] guitar center? [00:10] what kinda music you playing? [00:11] Mick_ (n=mick@ALagny-153-1-82-96.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:14] jeev: if they find them somewhere but they turn out to cost $100 per tube, I can't really spend the money (need 2 of them) [00:15] they got EL84s (similar type, not quite the same) for like $30 each [00:16] anyway the ones I have aren't dead, but they're ancient and might not last much longer (or they might last for year, I dunno) [00:16] Urchlay, what amp? [00:17] Lectrolab R700C bass amp [00:18] man, tubes? didn't people stop using those something like 40 years ago? [00:18] here's pics of one that's in *much* better shape of mine: [00:18] Action: mishehu grins and ducks [00:18] http://www.flickr.com/photos/pacoblues/sets/72157615399206203/ [00:18] Urchlay: i suggest you join the 21st century. :P [00:18] mishehu: not musicians [00:18] Action: Callously stabs agentc0re and mishehu [00:19] i don't see a problem with the new EL84s [00:19] no I will NOT get off of your lawn! [00:19] redtricycle (n=redtricy@c-24-16-69-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:19] agentc0re: eh, the way to get a tube guitar or bass amp sound, is to use tubes [00:19] heh [00:19] it depends on what you want and where you get them from, and price you're willing to pay, etc [00:19] what if your tubes are clogged? [00:19] tubes are meant to be changed like strings (but just not as often) [00:19] yah, I know [00:20] tubes is the only way [00:20] solid state amps suck [00:20] bought this amp 6 or 7 years ago, not played it much (it was storage for most of that time) [00:20] the amplifier is not a dump truck [00:21] it's a series of tubes [00:21] now give me my oil bribe! :-) [00:21] .... [00:21] deco: eh, I wouldn't go that far. I use a Hartke 3500, which has both tube (12AX7) and solid state preamps, but the power amp is solid state. It doesn't suck... but it doesn't have that warm 1960s sound either [00:22] Urchlay: for guitarest dunno about bass players... [00:22] depends on the use of the amp [00:22] I'm playing bass, without distortion, so I don't care that solid state distortion sounds like crap [00:22] some solid state is very good for certain uses [00:22] blah bass [00:22] i was talking about guitar amps :P [00:23] solid state is also cheaper and usually less easily damaged by dropping [00:23] Action: mishehu notes that "opinions are like a55holes... we all got them, and they all stink..." [00:23] solid state amps are only good for practice [00:23] except for mine, mine smells like roses. [00:23] the only actual guitar amp I own is a Crate, so old it's actually built into a wooden crate... solid state, not great sounding [00:23] i disagree, there's some 80s cleans you can't get the same with a tube [00:23] but like i said, what you're using it for [00:24] plus some jackass spilled garlic butter dipping sauce on the speaker :( [00:24] and not all tube means 60s warm sound. some (high rectifier etc) are for a very distorted sound. case in point: rebirth of tube amps for metal recently (crank amps in particular) [00:24] habaneros (n=habanero@pool-71-101-38-110.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:25] Callously: yeah. For me, tube = 1960s bass sound, but that's not all it's good for I know [00:25] actually that lectrolab bass amp sounds great as a guitar amp (but has no reverb built in) [00:26] the best way to know is to play them all and record your guitar / bass and effects with that amp [00:26] it'll distort at really high volume [00:26] for me, a twin reverb or pro junior works great with my schecter c-1 classic and boss me-50 [00:27] for others, something else. it's one of those things. your ears, your rig, your fingers, etc etc ad nauseum [00:27] only effect I use on bass is an alesis nanocompressor [00:27] well, and my main bass has active pickups and tone controls, which could count as an effect [00:30] active? not hardly, but i get what you mean [00:31] Action: Callously is not into actives but again, to each his own [00:31] well, I have 2 pickups, and can switch between passive, active parallel, and active series [00:33] active series is real bright & funky, active parallel (at the same tone settings) is more of a "smile" without so much mid, passive sounds almost like an old Fender Jazz bass [00:33] I tend to decide which setting to use with which song, then forget to actually switch them at gigs :( [00:38] alreadygone (i=1000@119.154.6.157) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:40] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [00:40] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck_@81.193.19.216) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:40] alreadygone (i=1000@119.154.17.235) joined ##slackware. [00:44] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start" [00:44] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:47] all I see is silence [00:48] Action: deco farts [00:49] that is better [00:49] is it wrong to get a grimm reaper statue for christmas? [00:49] hmmm not really [00:49] better than nothing [00:50] birdlives (n=lee@pool-72-67-110-188.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:50] lol... I am still wanting the tattoo of it [00:50] oh a tatto [00:50] ow yeah, I finally got some Stella Artois chalices [00:51] deco: I am a fan of tattoos, hopefully within the next 5 years I will get a big reaper on my back [00:51] oh hehe [00:51] how many do you have now ? [00:51] with the chalice I can finally enjoy some stella the way the brewers intended [00:51] deco: Only 3 right now, I am picky about what I get [00:51] heh [00:52] I have been around too many people that are over tattooed, so I don't want to get useless stuff of load them on to the point were it is disgusting [00:52] yeah [00:52] all of them now are hidden, two on my chest and one on my shoulder [00:53] merciful_ (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [00:53] so, has it been this quiet all day? [00:53] kinda [00:53] I have been expecting this silence for a few days [00:54] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:54] brb, getting another beer [00:55] deco: have you tried didkam 1.0.0 yet? [00:55] *digikam [00:56] mfillpot: yeah but in a different distro [00:56] just a quick test [00:56] deco: I am liking the new features like the image recognition engine, I can't wait to see what else they will add [00:57] mfillpot: what's that for ? organizing ? [00:57] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@168-103-58-52.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:57] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@168-103-58-52.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [00:57] deco: I guess so, that is what I used it for, put a sample image of my son and it pulled all images of my son [00:58] oh that's crazy [00:58] they also have a feature where you dray something and it automatically pull images that match the colors and patterns [00:58] s/dray/draw [00:58] cool [00:59] and geolocation [01:00] merciful (n=eabe@j148025.upc-j.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:00] my only issue is that the new kipi-plugins seems to be missing files that are necessary for it to build, so I am using the old plug-ins [01:02] I can't even get kipi-plugins to build. [01:02] lol [01:03] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/KAySye97.html [01:04] fire|bird: that is about what I got [01:04] mfillpot: Which kipi version are you using that works? [01:04] I've had kipi-plugins 0.9.0, but that was when I built qt 4.6 [01:05] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [01:06] fire|bird: I believe 0.9.0, it is the version that the 13.0 slackbuild builds [01:06] ohdannyboy (n=dan@pool-96-254-20-102.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:06] mfillpot: I tried building that one and 0.6.0 from SBo, both gave the same thing. [01:08] that seems like an internal problem with something on your system, the SBo build it working perfectly for a build I am doing now [01:08] fire|bird: like always :P [01:08] deco: shaddup. :P [01:08] lol [01:09] deco: remember my motto "If it isn't broke, upgrade until it is" :P [01:09] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:10] alreadygone (i=1000@119.154.17.235) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:10] mfillpot: 0.9.0 builds here now after upgrading qt to 4.6 again. [01:10] fire|bird: rofl [01:10] i like that motto [01:11] redtricycle: for $10/month, you can use it too. :P [01:11] fire|bird: I am using qt 4.5.3 [01:11] fire|bird: lol [01:11] mfillpot: yeah, that's what I did have. [01:12] deco: fortune: Every dog has its day, but the nights belong to the pussycats. [01:13] fire|bird: you have some of the wierdest issues, but that is good because you learn how to fix them [01:13] mfillpot: yeah, weird indeed, I've never had that happen before. [01:13] fire|bird: ;o [01:15] sawp milfpot [01:15] are there any other new app releases that are worth checking out? [01:15] Callously (n=Concaten@ZL004197.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [01:17] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:17] I'm up to my elbows in guitar tuner apps [01:17] but most of them aren't exactly new [01:18] why would you need such a thing ? [01:18] laziness, and a guitar that's *very* sensitive to temperature/humidity changes [01:18] k [01:18] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:19] also a digital tuner makes it a whole lot easier to set intonation on any guitar/bass [01:19] (I have a decent ear, but I have a hard time hearing that e.g. the 12th fret fretted note is 8 cents sharper than the 12th fret harmonic, especially as you can't play them simultaneously) [01:20] i can't tune a low e on a guitar [01:20] i just can't [01:20] too low [01:20] by ear i mean [01:20] mfillpot: err, I wasn't on qt 4.5.3, I'm on 13, not current. :P [01:21] fire|bird: I forgot to mention that I am running 64-bit current right now [01:23] deco: I had trouble with the low B on a 5-string bass, when I first got one [01:24] Urchlay: hehe yeah i bet [01:25] that music stuff is lost on me [01:26] most digital tuners choke on it too, I have to tune the 5th fret harmonic [01:26] alreadygone (i=1000@119.154.13.22) joined ##slackware. [01:26] brucelee (n=fffz@c-67-180-200-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:26] Urchlay: don't you have to get a special amp for 5 string bass ? for a 7 string guitar you do [01:26] the cabinet can't handle the low tones [01:27] when I'm on stage I *always* use a tuner, and never ever tune where the audience can hear it (nothing says "unprofessional" like checking your tuning between every 2 songs) [01:28] AEnima15771 (n=clbarnob@h80ad270c.async.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [01:28] well, most bass amps handle it fine, the low B is around 31Hz, which most decent speakers designed for bass amps can deal with, no problem. Sometimes you run into a cabinet that's ported in such a way that the 31Hz sounds like mud [01:28] enjoy guys, I'm out [01:29] low B on a 7-string guitar is right in the middle of the range of a bass guitar, so yah, I guess you need something special for that [01:29] see ya mfillpot [01:29] mfillpot: sorry, we're boring :( [01:29] no, my buzz is kicking and it's time for something else, enjoy [01:30] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [01:30] though honestly, a lot of guitar amps work Just Fine as 4-string bass amps (music store guys always tell you it won't work, but in a pinch, you can get by with it) [01:30] so what kinda music do you play? [01:30] Urchlay: oh hehe [01:30] in a band that's playing classic rock & 80s covers [01:30] hmmm sounds like fun. [01:31] but I play just about any style [01:31] Urchlay: hmmm i had a friend that would use a keyboard amp for his bass , worked ... [01:31] I'm trying to focus on metal, borderline death metal style. working on improving my playing. [01:31] deco: my nicest bass cabinet is actually a keyboard cabinet (18" sub, 10" mid, and a horn) [01:31] heh [01:31] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: "Leaving." [01:31] bon jovi did that for a while too, no? [01:32] death metal can be really good music, but the vocal style really turns me off [01:32] I dunno what bon jovi did, but I think we're about to pick up a couple of his songs :) [01:32] Urchlay: yeah i love the drumming but the vocals annoy me [01:32] my bass skillz are non existant. I try to learn how the bass players play it. Lot of skill involved. And some of the git riffs are doubled on teh bass but some times, the bass plays other stuff. It's so confusing. [01:33] there are some bands that play somewhat close to hints of death metal, those are cool. There are some death metal bands that just don't do screamo singing. :) [01:33] you want to become a good bass player, you have to learn more than just metal... for one thing, the bass gets buried in the mix in most styles of metal [01:33] but without the bass, the metal can sound like crap. [01:33] you should study Geezer Butler's bass lines on the first few Black Sabbath albums [01:34] bass is what really defines the low end plus, it really adds the low end grit. [01:34] Urchlay: remember i sent you once a recording i did ? [01:34] long long time ago [01:34] well guitar is my main instrument, but I try to figure out bass to be well rounded and to be able to fake it in my recordings.... [01:34] deco: yeah... honestly I can't remember what it sounded like now (I had 3 or 4 people sending me various recordings at the time) [01:35] Urchlay: hehe, you said it sounded like joe satriani [01:35] slackwarebob: good plan. Bass is my main instrument, but I also play guitar (fairly well) and drums (badly) [01:35] Welcome to ##musicchatroom. [01:36] yay [01:36] shopping for guitars for metal at this time. deciding among, epiphone sg prophecy edition, ibanez (something), and jackson dinky something. [01:36] caoliver: sorry... nobody else was talking [01:36] slackwarebob: get ibanez , jackson if you only wanna play metal [01:36] deco: well, I have one ibanez, one fender (squire strat, beginner edition), so now I want a metal guitar to sound metal. [01:37] I have a feeling buying a better amp than a 200w crate amp will help. [01:37] slackwarebob: ok , get a jackson [01:37] the SG probably doesn't work great for death metal, but they're damn good guitars (dunno about the epiphone version though) [01:37] the SG is prophecy edition with active EMG humbuckers. [01:37] slackwarebob: megadeth used jackson's back in the old days [01:37] meant to be a metal git. [01:37] but i heard their quality went down after fender bought them [01:37] I read jackson is a well respected metal guitar. [01:37] yeah [01:37] megadeth stopped using them after fender bought them though [01:37] the ibanez and jackson guitars, in my experience, are great to play, but completely lack character (which is great, if you're only wanting a signal source to plug into a ton of effects) [01:38] although, fender was the main brand for Maiden and they rocked great. [01:38] Urchlay: same thing I heard about shecther that they're not even meant to be played clean. lol [01:38] Maiden? They would have kicked ass even if they'd been forced to use First Act guitars and a Rock Band drumkit... [01:39] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:39] their drummer really made them sound great. They still play great stuff. [01:39] slackwarebob: hm, guitar player in my band has a schechter (or however you spell it), coincidentally he hardly ever plays 100% clean [01:39] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn47.78-99-109.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [01:39] johnbristol (n=john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [01:40] I haven't got to play with a band yet. Just been lazy to look for a band. [01:40] always been a fan of Steve Harris (bass player for Maiden) [01:40] and he plays with his fingers. never uses a picks. [01:40] learned to do those fast triplets with my fingers, felt like a deity when I got good at it :) [01:40] and he said he never warmed up. [01:41] triplets? I'm trying to learn the dah dah dah dah quad-notes on teh guitar. [01:41] but I keep holding my guitar too low and my picked is slanted when hitting the keys and it's messing it up. [01:41] take in the strap some [01:42] you don't need to wear the guitar at your knees, it doesn't really make you look cool [01:42] i used to have it all high , to my chest [01:42] didn't care how i looked [01:42] (heh, I wear my bass up above my ample gut) [01:43] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-071-068-037-030.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [01:44] I have a new Nook e-book reader and it wants me to unmount it in order to use it while plugged into my computer. (It's not mounted; I've checked.) Is there some special "Linux, please ignore this device and do nothing but send power to it" signal that's stronger than unmounting? [01:44] veritos: use a USB cable that only has the power and ground leads connected? [01:44] crashdata (n=crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:45] i plugged in my camera for some reason it didnt automatically mount itself... [01:45] what is the dev name of my camera [01:45] I had one like that, it came with a hard drive enclosure that needed more power than one USB port could deliver [01:45] I could use the AC outlet too, but that seems to be a "when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail" approach [01:46] crashdata: are you trying to use it as a disk (to read the pictures off it), or as a camera (to capture pictures to the computer)? [01:46] Urchlay, yup. [01:46] first one [01:46] veritos: try finding out which kernel module gets loaded when you plug in the device, and rmmod that module? [01:46] My Slackware 13 lilo brings up a framebuffer of vga=773 with the Radeon driver. When I get into KDE the display is missing the left and right screen edges by an inch or so. Running System Settings and clicking "Display" immediately drops me into 1152x864 75Hz and the display adjusts. What have I left undone? [01:47] i just need to access the camera memory... [01:47] when i do lsusb I see it [01:47] crashdata: are you sure it's in "hard disk" mode? (I have a camera that has a switch on the camera itself that toggles between acting as a disk or acting as a video device, when plugged into a PC) [01:47] Urchlay: I would hold it higher, but it bugs me that high. My pick hand feels better on the reach, but my arm feels weird bending too much. [01:47] Urchlay, it exposes itself (teehee) as a normal USB mass storage device, same as a thumbdrive [01:48] Urchlay, its a Nikon D3000...there is no mode that i see that toggles between hd and video. [01:49] veritos: OK, errr, I suppose if you're not using any other USB storage devices you could rmmod whatever the USB storage module is called (too lazy to find out right now) [01:49] Urchlay, is udev going to try loading it again straightaway? [01:50] also, no luck [01:50] crashdata: OK. It may be using microsoft MTP (media transfer protocol) instead of acting as a regular storage device. See if "mtp-detect" and associated mtp-* commands can do anything with it? [01:50] Urchlay, it has not video actually [01:51] if the mtp-tools can successfully talk to the device, go to slackbuilds.org and search for "mtpfs" (which lets you pretend it's a normal filesystem) [01:51] Urchlay, i'll just connect it to AC power then [01:51] thanks for the help anyway [01:51] veritos: I'm out of ideas [01:51] crash, try using gphoto2 [01:52] i'll try those [01:52] Inacio (n=Alt_of_C@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [01:52] gphoto2 = another way to talk to the thing with MTP [01:52] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Operation timed out [01:52] hello [01:52] i did a upgrade from stable to current [01:52] now i have problems with xchat [01:52] because a upgrade in perl [01:53] any solution to this problem? [01:53] Inacio: grab the xchat slackbuild from the -current sources, and rebuild xchat [01:53] How did you go about updating to -current? [01:53] I already google around but did't find nothing [01:53] Urchlay: tks [01:53] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-80-29.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:53] Inacio: it may fail to build, though [01:54] I don't see a point in rebuilding xchat until you know the rest of the system is good ... If you borked xchat.. who knows what else is borked [01:54] Dominian: fair point [01:54] I was assuming the rest of the system was non-borked [01:54] mancha, i got gphoto2 to work thanks.....is there anyway i can just view it from the camera instead of downloading the files to my hard disk? [01:55] wait a sec. xchat doesn't dynamically link to perl in the first place. [01:55] how do I if the rest of the system is ok? [01:55] Inacio: can you pastebin the exact error message(s) you're getting when trying to run xchat? [01:55] ok [01:55] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:55] Can't locate File/Spec.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib64/perl5/5.10.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib64/perl5/5.10.0 /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl .) at (eval 1) line 28. [01:55] BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 1) line 28. [01:55] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:56] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [01:56] crash, not that i'm aware [01:56] Inacio: OK, you can find out where File/Spec.pm actually lives (assuming you have it at all), and set PERL5LIB in the environment, see if that helps (it may, or it may not, depends if it's a pure-perl module or uses compiled code) [01:57] you probably borked perl-apps by upgrading perl to -current [01:57] mancha, k [01:57] the perl apps might not be upgraded in sync [01:57] if that's all that's wrong, my idea of rebuild xchat should fix it [01:57] (er, only for xchat, of course) [01:58] yes, either a) rebuild xchat with new perl installed or b) downgrade perl again [01:58] yes [01:58] with option a) as urch says, it'll only unbork xchat, there might be other userland apps that remain borked [01:58] or try setting PERL5LIB in the environment, there's a decent chance that it'll actuall work [01:58] or get a -current iso and do a clean install [01:58] Dominian: i did that [01:58] that won't work, his probem is with @INC [01:59] Inacio: you said you did an 'upgrade' from stable to -current [01:59] i did a current iso [01:59] yes, PERL5LIB directly affects @INC inside the perl interpreter [01:59] sorry [01:59] my bad [01:59] What happens if I installpkg two packages with the same 'package name' but two differing versions? [01:59] Urch, trust me it won't work. [01:59] I did use a iso [01:59] mancha: it stands a chance of working [01:59] logickills (n=logickil@ip98-162-196-98.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:59] Inacio: So what did you do exactly? were you upgradding packages on -current or what? Or did you only install a few seelect upgraded pacakges? [02:00] veritos the more recent installed package will overlay the older. but use upgradepkg instead [02:00] I used a ISO [02:00] PurpleSmurf, i knew about upgradepkg; i meant intentionally having two versions at the same time [02:00] if File::Spec is (a) a pure Perl module with no XS code, and (b) not massively changed between his old perl version and his new one (I doubt it has been, IIRC it's fairly old and stable) [02:01] veritos there's only one fs to install packages to [02:01] I did not upgrade with slackpkg [02:01] mancha, is there another way of retrieving the pictures from the camera, gphoto takes a while to download [02:01] mancha: PERL5LIB=/foo perl -le 'print for @INC [02:01] PurpleSmurf, and if they don't have any files shared? (say, two different versions of a library) [02:01] I used a ISO made from current [02:01] pictures from my camera [02:01] er, with a closing ' at the end, sorry [02:02] veritos pkgs of different verisons have same-named files within; you'll messup author's intention [02:02] well he can give the PERL5LIB hack a shot i guess, no harm no foul [02:02] PurpleSmurf, okay, it was just a hypothetical [02:02] if that doesn't work, a quick rebuild will do the trick [02:02] veritos (n=veritos@c-76-104-249-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [02:02] perl itself is designed to allow multiple versions to coexist peacefully, I dunno if the Slack package of perl is [02:03] /usr/bin/perl is a symlink to /usr/bin/perl5.10.0 on this box, and perl keeps its modules & such in dirs with the version number in the path name [02:04] crashdata (n=crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:04] grep 5.10.0 /var/log/packages/* | cut -d: -f1 | sort | uniq [02:04] i did that [02:05] if you really want to try using installpkg to install 2 perl versions simultaneously, I'd say you should install the older version first (if nothing else, the docs in /usr/man will end up being the newer ones, if you do it that way) [02:06] Inacio: xchat doesn't exactly use perl, it *is* perl (there's a perl interpreter statically linked into the xchat executable) [02:06] same goes for irssi, and most other programs written in C that have perl plugins (apache's mod_perl, postgresql's perl support, whatever it's called) [02:07] I didn't find much info about this in google [02:07] I have another partition on my computer with Slackware stable [02:08] heh, you could mount that partition read-only and set PERL5LIB to point to /mnt/whatever/usr/lib/perl5/$version [02:08] hah [02:09] grep 5.10.0 /var/log/packages/* | cut -d: -f1 | sort | uniq [02:09] not recommended for daily use, some restrictions may apply, see your doctor to find out if insane perl stuff is right for you [02:09] i [02:09] I did that [02:09] side effects may include... (I'll let someone else invent there) [02:09] I didnt get any result [02:09] yeah, because you no longer have perl 5.10.0 installed [02:10] xchat contains an embedded perl 5.10.0 interpreter, which by default searches for modules in /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0 (or lib64 if you're 64-bit) [02:10] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:10] does anyone have a recommendation for a front-end for mysql? GUI? [02:10] contact your doctor if you develop a condition known as priapism...an... [02:11] you no longer have a /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.0 directory, because upgrading perl made it /usr/lib/perl5/xxxx where xxxx is the new perl package's version number... [02:11] I think I should return to stable [02:11] it takes less time to recompile xchat than this convo is taking :) [02:11] unless he's on a 486 or something :) [02:11] I already tried to recompile xchat [02:11] lol [02:11] Inacio: depends. Why did you upgrade to -current in the first place? [02:11] I used src2pkg [02:12] wtf [02:12] o_o [02:12] Urchlay: to use kde 4.3 [02:12] src2pkg isn't meant to replace Pat's real slackbuilds [02:12] just dl the xchat stuff from your favorite mirror and run the xchat.SlackBuild [02:13] Inacio: and is KDE 4.3 really enough better than 4.2 that it matters, now that you've tried it? [02:13] is different [02:14] will you miss it, if you downgrade to 4.2? If not, go back to 13.0 [02:14] sarkoman (n=sarkoman@unaffiliated/sarkoman) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:14] just downgrade perl :) [02:14] I will try to recompile xchat [02:15] i still don't grok this xchat stuff, telnet 6667 works wonderously [02:16] and firefox sucks, telnet to port 80 is enough for a Real Man? [02:17] i am so tired of firefox [02:17] i prefer nc for that [02:17] i've had this srware iron (google chrome clone without privacy thingies) runing for like 6 days now [02:17] Time is 11:17pm, computer has been up for 1w 2d 12h 41m 32s [02:17] open, mrtg and a bunch of other sites, using only 100 megs of ram [02:17] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [02:17] oh wait, it opens iron.exe every website, totals around 200 mb, no lag. firefox would've been at 500 right now [02:17] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [02:18] where I can find a xchat package? [02:18] slackbuilds? [02:18] slackware mirror [02:18] look at topic [02:22] wonder why we have both "amp" and "madplay" [02:22] should get rid of both and replace with "moc" :-D [02:22] oh wow you knwo i've never actually read the topic in here [02:22] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:23] moc? why not cmus? [02:23] I download a xchat package [02:23] i like moc [02:23] did the upgrade [02:23] mplayer plays nicely. [02:23] no changes at all [02:23] moc is cool. [02:23] i tried cmus ...but... .. [02:23] cmus is cool. [02:23] altho the last one i got from slackbuild needed to be patched to work [02:23] not slackbuilds fault mocs [02:23] but neither plays nicely in urxvt, on unicode. [02:24] dled the newest and compiled form source worked well [02:24] moc works fine in urxvt with unicode from my experience [02:24] i run moc in tty2 [02:24] amaranthine (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:24] i hate how moc throws an error if it thinks it doesn't have enough size to render properly [02:25] anyone know off hand what bzip2's default compression level is? [02:25] so it gets killed if you have a tiling window manager resizing everything [02:25] Inacio (n=Alt_of_C@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: "+++ OK ATH OK" [02:25] almost as good as xz? [02:25] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:26] Nick change: amaranthine -> bleeding|edge [02:26] It typically compresses files to within 10% to 15% of the best available techniques [02:26] from bzip.org [02:28] toasty, know offhand what level (1 through 9) is default? [02:29] no i do not whihc is shy i said almsot as good as xz and the copy pasted that from bzip.org [02:29] which* why* [02:30] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [02:31] for some reason i'm thinking 4 tho [02:33] gzip is 6 if memory serves, but i can't recall what bzip2 is [02:34] srry :( i'm useless :( [02:36] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[05:24] tomi3074 (n=tomi3074@abuo63.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [05:27] Karu (n=alch@78-28-64-158.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [05:27] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-80-29.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:29] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-125-109.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [05:29] Axius (n=fim@92.85.221.37) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:30] crashdata (n=crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [05:31] hi, i'm thinking of changing my x32 to x64.....how stable is x64..aside from drivers...will x32 programs will work on x64 bit on slack? [05:35] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC31385.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [05:40] crashdata: Slackware 64 is not less than Slackware 32. You can use 32-bits programms on slackware64. You need read http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [05:40] *Slackware 64 is stable... [05:41] k thanks [05:41] for the info [05:42] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:43] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.145.89) joined ##slackware. [05:49] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-159-249.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [05:49] hi there [05:50] anavel (n=Zack@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [05:52] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC31385.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:59] Axius (n=fim@92.84.2.51) joined ##slackware. [06:04] M1ck_ (n=mick@ALagny-153-1-40-123.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:06] re multilib...for the nvidia drivers i have to create a nvidia-driver-compat package as well is that correct? [06:07] i dont think so. if you get the run2 from nvidia it contains 32bit components as well [06:08] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.53.231.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [06:08] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-197-240.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:08] errm pkg2 [06:09] hrm i have to look at the slackbuild..thought it would install 64bit only [06:09] i didnt tell you to use a slackbuild* [06:10] but i do. so i'm gonna make a compat package [06:10] see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=3785381#post3785381 [06:12] see ya :) [06:12] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-159-249.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [06:13] lowkyalur (n=low@77-20-210-85-dynip.superkabel.de) joined ##slackware. [06:16] crashdata (n=crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:17] yeah thanks, but i want to use a slackbuild for the nvidia driver...keeps my installation sane and makes life easy if i upgrade my kernel [06:17] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [06:18] Mick_ (n=mick@ALagny-153-1-82-96.w90-3.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:21] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [06:23] iirc the only difference is if you want to revert to using an open source driver. other than that the nvidia installer does the same [06:23] alreadygone (i=1000@119.154.13.22) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:27] yes correct. but everything is packaged, and i have it splitted in two packages, nvidia-driver and nvidia-kernel. after kernel upgrade i'm just buiding the kernel package. i like it the "packaged" way. [06:27] my kind of mess in /usr/local is already enough [06:28] When I try to copy or a file I get this msg:cp: cannot stat `Historia': No such file or directory [06:28] quite discriptive message [06:28] pretty obvious message [06:28] heh [06:28] pim_ (n=ldjf@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [06:30] http://theoatmeal.com/comics/computers [06:38] lowkyalur (n=low@77-20-210-85-dynip.superkabel.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:39] Axius (n=fim@92.84.2.51) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:45] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC31385.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [06:47] v4nelle (n=van@78-60-56.adsl.cyta.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:54] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-6.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [06:59] cteg: teh SlackBuilds do not handle 32bit compat at all. It wasn't worth the effort for me. [07:01] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:02] v4nelle (n=van@78-60-56.adsl.cyta.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:05] cteg: my advise, if you really want proper support for 32bit compat packages, use the binary installer. you can still use the nvidia-kernel script for the kernel modules. 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[07:07] pprkut: ok, thanks [07:07] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [07:08] i'm thinking if its worth to go multilib just for wine even if i don't know if what if want is really running..eg thief, myth2 [07:08] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:09] some say it runs, some say it don't, some say its choppy. and even that changes with every wine release [07:10] only thing i know what really runs flawless is diablo lod. i avoid that though, getting addicted every time [07:16] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [07:22] PurpleSmurf: i changed the nonfunctional entries in the mc.ext to regex. working now [07:23] they were like "type/^PDF"...i don't know why that file detection is not working anymore here [07:24] can't tell if it worked since i switched to 64bit or not [07:27] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:28] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-197-240.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:29] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-197-240.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:00] if you hear any noise it's just me and the boys gettin' down [09:01] Swing low sweat chariot stop and let me rise [09:01] ride [09:01] we're comin' back [09:01] again and again [09:02] these headphones are dying [09:02] I wanna ride [09:02] Pim (n=ldjf@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:02] yeah [09:02] I wanna ride [09:02] I wanna riiiiiiide [09:02] I wanna ride on the mothership [09:02] do you? [09:02] I wanna ride on the mothership? [09:02] do you [09:03] do you wanna ride [09:03] what's that? [09:03] lady gaga? [09:03] if you wanna ride help me sing [09:03] P Funk [09:03] heh [09:03] George Clinton and the Parliament Funkadelic [09:03] Mothership Connection [09:03] giuppy (n=giuppy@host140-168-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "leaving" [09:03] good song [09:04] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [09:04] Axius (n=ade@92.85.26.17) joined ##slackware. [09:04] giuppy (n=giuppy@host140-168-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:04] Game of sound [09:05] Hello I'm the computer game Dracula and I like to suck necks [09:05] I am out in my brain 'cause I can out insane [09:05] and I'm up to my neck in derange [09:05] get some bombs blasting at my feet [09:05] of course [09:05] I can keep a beat [09:05] I'm your funky, dancin' computer game [09:06] and of course [09:06] I'm insane [09:06] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [09:06] welcome [09:06] may I invade your space? [09:06] how much money do you spend? [09:06] do you ever really win? [09:07] I can out invitation... I can out rick the james... I can out dance the room.... I can out jelly the roll [09:07] I can out heavy the load I'm your compuuuuter game [09:08] Of course [09:08] I'm insane [09:08] I'm your computer game [09:08] but I bet ya [09:08] pim_ (n=ldjf@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:08] I can out wiggle the worm [09:08] I can out easter can egg [09:08] I can out [09:08] bananna a split [09:08] I can out toilet a seat [09:08] Axius (n=ade@92.85.26.17) left irc: Client Quit [09:09] I can out daaance the flooor [09:09] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:09] I'm your computer game [09:09] now sing something from devourment [09:09] of course I'm insane [09:09] hm [09:09] I don't know them [09:09] but I can out wiggle the worm [09:09] just so you know [09:09] I happen to be [09:09] your computer game [09:09] and I can out drum a beat [09:10] uh [09:10] I can totally [09:10] I can out heavy the load [09:11] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:11] sirslacker1 (n=aligp@p579B5CBA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:12] sirslacker1 (n=aligp@p579B5CBA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:12] sirslacker1 (n=aligp@p579B5CBA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:12] sirslacker1 (n=aligp@p579B5CBA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:14] sirslacker1 (n=aligp@p579B5CBA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:14] sirslacker1 (n=aligp@p579B5CBA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:14] me and the boys [09:14] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [09:14] me and the boooys [09:14] starchild here [09:14] we have returned to clean the pyramids [09:14] we gonna get down in 3D [09:15] y'all ain't tired is ya? [09:15] if you hear any noise it's me and the boys gettin' bad [09:15] ya gotta hit me [09:15] go with it y'all [09:15] put a dip in yo hip [09:16] now sing something from Hank Williams [09:17] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [09:17] greetings and salutations...;) [09:18] sup man [09:18] not bad how about you? [09:19] good [09:19] kinda drunk [09:19] whos not? [09:19] heh [09:19] listenin' to funk [09:21] I didn't knooow that funk was looaaaded [09:21] the groooove is so hoooot I can't hooooold it [09:21] prince okie doke was haven't a toke fixin' to drive his duce [09:22] the boy so lazy stone cold crazy he gets high on fruity loops [09:22] little miss muffet sat on her tuffet tryin' to lay and egg [09:22] along came a spider and sat down beside said "hey bitch gimme some head" [09:23] you gotta get up if you wanna get to it [09:23] if you got to dance just get up and do it [09:23] not enough room to dance in here [09:23] i dislike this room [09:23] well i like it [09:23] but it's small [09:24] old mother hubbard went to the cupboard to get her old dog a bone [09:24] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CBA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:24] when she got there the cupboard was bare and the dog had a bone of his own [09:24] someday someone is going to read a log of this conversation [09:25] and they're going to recognize these lyrics [09:25] and they are going to laugh [09:26] somebody ask me "why do you funk so hard?" [09:26] I was just about to, actually [09:26] sirslacker (n=sirslack@p579B5CBA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:26] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5CBA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:27] hah [09:27] alreadygone (i=1000@119.154.4.230) joined ##slackware. [09:28] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left ##slackware. [09:28] Make my funk the P Funk I wants to get funked up [09:28] I want the booomb I want the P Funk [09:28] I want my funk uncut [09:28] ... [09:29] Make my funk the P Funk [09:29] The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (69% of Full) [09:29] heh [09:30] somethin' stank and I want some [09:30] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [09:30] somethin' smell like a skunk and I want some [09:31] We're the opening act, we can't come back, you gets no more, we get no encore [09:32] GET DRESSED! [09:32] time to go [09:32] don't wanna blow the show [09:32] I'm dressin'! [09:32] close the do' [09:32] I'm dressin' [09:33] I'm dressed! gimme the floor I got somethin' ta show [09:33] What the hell's goin' on in here you under arrest get dressed! [09:33] it's time the get the show on the road [09:33] corey (n=corey@adsl-99-56-123-92.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:33] well alright now, meanwhile we find our opening act back in the dressin' room discussin' their role in the show [09:34] and then the drummer says "A good show starts in the dressin' room and works it's way to the stage [09:34] "will someone get this girl a back stage pass while I work my way to the floor [09:34] " [09:34] we the openin' act we can't come back [09:35] okay [09:36] I have drunkenly typed the lyrics of badass songs long enough [09:36] i must away [09:36] indubitableness (n=indubita@99.157.217.46) left irc: "Leaving" [09:37] yes [09:37] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:40] :| [09:44] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.43.160) joined ##slackware. [09:44] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02DBA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:44] " BOOM! " [09:45] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-168.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [09:46] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-winruwchyfppfvdo) left irc: "leaving" [09:47] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-kpuchzywxpqsuoxo) joined ##slackware. [09:49] ghett0 (n=ghetto@78.166.128.131) joined ##slackware. [09:49] Action: ghett0 slm [09:50] Exhaustedly (n=Utilizat@ZL001253.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [09:50] Mick_ (n=mick@ALagny-153-1-6-7.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:51] crn_ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:52] barby_ (n=barby@host86-129-179-166.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:53] Nick change: barby_ -> errordeveloper [09:53] hi [09:54] i still haven't got the bluetooth thing working .. [09:54] i think the blueman is the best app i should intall here [09:54] i got the slackbuilds [09:54] but there is also libusb dependency [09:54] hi guys, I was trying to compile Google Gadgets for Linux on Slackware 13, and I got a compiling error. Here is the pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/d4583785f Kindly look at it. [09:54] as well as blueZ-4 [09:55] mohaa (n=nome@188.115.77.90) joined ##slackware. [09:55] seems like libusb from the slackbuild can cooexist with slackware libusb [09:55] but blueZ-4 probably cannot [09:56] i don't really want to rebuild a whole lot of posibly dependent packages ;( [09:59] anyone know a shell command that will totally disable any backlight setting changes and/or screensavers? (kaspersky rescue live leaves a bit much to be desired) [09:59] rworkman: are you around man? [10:01] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC02DBA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:02] errordeveloper, did you try rworkman's pre-built packages? [10:02] Exhaustedly: haven't seen them ..hm [10:02] also i'm on x86_64 [10:03] rlworkman.net i think [10:03] i think he has both versions fwiw [10:03] alreadygone: google gadgets probably depends on gtkmozembed, which was removed recently [10:03] they're for slackware 13.0 iirc [10:04] i got 13.0 [10:04] ghett0 (n=ghetto@78.166.128.131) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:04] k just checking 8-) [10:04] ghett0 (n=ghetto@78.166.128.131) joined ##slackware. [10:04] dangit WHY did they have to use gentoo for the kaspersky linux live rescue cd? WHY?! 8-( [10:06] i see [10:06] thanks pprkut [10:06] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-168.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [10:06] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [10:06] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:07] crn_ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) joined ##slackware. [10:08] pprkut, sure about that? :) [10:08] thrice`, help [10:08] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-80-29.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [10:09] sure about what? that "gtkmozembed, which was removed recently" or that this is shy my compiling is failing? [10:09] shy=why [10:11] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.43.160) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:11] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [10:11] oops, well in fact i have upgraded to -current a couple of days ago [10:12] hi all does an¥one use totem .. if so im getting a gstreamer missing plugin error .. any ideas on how to fix .. i've installed libdvdcss  libdvdread  mpeg2dec [10:12] Action: Exhaustedly stopped using totem because he can't stand it [10:13] Exhaustedly: but is there a way to fix it ? [10:13] macman_: pastebin the output of "ldd $(which totem)" [10:14] totem is awful [10:14] macman_, um i'm not sure. does mplayer work properly? (if you're trying to play a dvd, mplayer dvd:// [10:14] Exhaustedly: there no bluez-4 packages ;( [10:15] thrice`: well, no. But it does fail on headers that previously belonged to seamonkey and are now missing [10:15] errordeveloper, sorry [10:15] well .. [10:16] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-197-240.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:16] /usr/include/seamonkey-2.0/js/jscntxt.h:1328:18: error: js.msg: No such file or directory [10:16] hmm [10:17] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-197-240.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:17] pprkut, so what exactly should I do? I found that gtkmozembed's development stopped in 2008 I think? [10:21] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) joined ##slackware. [10:21] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) left irc: Client Quit [10:22] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) joined ##slackware. [10:22] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) left irc: Client Quit [10:23] hmmm, sorry to ask here but anyone know an annoying thing to do to a win7 computer on my LAN? it's my brother and he's been annoying, deeply annoying [10:23] Camarade_Tux, irc.2600.net [10:24] and/or put a forkbomb batch file in his startup directory >8-) [10:24] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.43.160) joined ##slackware. [10:24] I might actually start samba, it's true, must be wide open [10:24] alreadygone: I'm trying to adjust the SlackBuild, but it may take some time [10:24] pprkut, I thought Pat added those recently :( [10:24] ok :) thank you [10:24] restored them * [10:25] thrice`: I'm just syncing /patches, maybe they are in 2.0.1 [10:25] Mick_ (n=mick@ALagny-153-1-6-7.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [10:27] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [10:28] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC01DC1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:28] HAHAHA, I could remove the encryption on my wifi AP (*I* am still using an ethernet cable) and just dump his traffic [10:28] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:29] ghett0 (n=ghetto@78.166.128.131) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:30] Camarade_Tux: ettercap ftw! :P [10:30] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) joined ##slackware. [10:31] well, it's true I could just turn my wifi on, connect and start dumping, without even removing the (weak) encryption [10:31] x-ip (n=sakura-s@host146.190-139-233.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [10:33] that's pretty hard to stand: there are four computers connected to the ISP box and only one has less than two visible ports: X and sshd, guess who's using it >< [10:33] Camarade_Tux: limit the speed of wireless clients. let him have some good ol' dialup times %) [10:34] the isp box is too limited to let me do that I think but it could be a good think to check [10:34] or [10:34] for* [10:38] uh. you have a separate box for sharing internets? [10:39] Exhaustedly (n=Utilizat@ZL001253.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [10:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:40] dios_mio (n=test@88.243.7.93) joined ##slackware. [10:40] ghett0 (n=ghetto@78.166.128.131) joined ##slackware. [10:40] given by my ISP >< [10:41] mkoco (n=mtkoan@c-98-221-81-117.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:45] wow, my drive burns with 0.1x [10:45] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left ##slackware. [10:45] damn fast [10:45] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:45] ghett0 (n=ghetto@78.166.128.131) left irc: "Leaving" [10:45] Rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:46] Rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:46] hehe :P [10:46] Camarade_Tux: if it's some wireless ap, most of them have that functionality built in [10:47] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.21.180) left irc: "Leaving." [10:49] Camarade_Tux: setup upsidedownternet :P http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html [10:49] burning double layer blu ray? hopefully it will finish in 2010 :p [10:50] dfrank (n=dimon@188.134.8.110) joined ##slackware. [10:51] vehn_z1 (n=vehn_z@62.133.182.52) joined ##slackware. [10:51] hello All. I trying to set up sound, and audioplayers works fine, but no one videoplayer plays sound. i have turned on all channels in mixer, but there's no effect :( [10:51] The-Crou1ier (n=agapi@188.4.26.161.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:52] chopp: hahaha, I remember seeing it :P [10:52] chopp: the problem is really that the box is crap [10:52] i have no clue why its so slow [10:52] but I remember something about a flaw which would shut windows 7 down [10:53] yep, favourite windowse smb bug [10:53] i have a poc sploit somewhere, didn't get to try it tho [10:56] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [10:57] well, if you're curious [10:58] john_dee¡ hehe [10:59] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:01] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) joined ##slackware. [11:01] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) left ##slackware. [11:03] did everyone get what they wanted for christmas? [11:04] no! [11:04] ;( [11:04] i wanted a Daisy Redrider BB gun [11:04] what did you want? [11:04] oh yeah [11:04] now i remember [11:04] they stopped making those, didn't they? [11:05] they still make em, they dont have wood stocks like they did when i was a kid though [11:05] plastic [11:05] yup, fake wood grain [11:06] everything is cheaply made now [11:06] yup, to maximize corporate profits [11:06] odd thing is, no one seems to care [11:07] buy cars with spandex interior upholstery... [11:08] cheap is in [11:09] planned obsolescence, fast product turnover, == profit :) [11:09] that is the plan [11:09] The-Crou1ier (n=agapi@188.4.26.161.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:09] I wanted a mistress! ='( [11:09] The-Croupier (n=agapi@188.4.26.161.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:09] lol! [11:09] THAT would have been something to find under the tree [11:10] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-125-109.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [11:10] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-071-068-037-030.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:13] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:15] i think my ISP's DNS servers are borked, they work but much slower than normal [11:15] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-071-068-037-030.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving." [11:18] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.66.89) joined ##slackware. [11:20] mkoco (n=mtkoan@c-98-221-81-117.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [11:20] ghett0 (n=ghetto@78.166.128.131) joined ##slackware. [11:22] Pig_Pen, you can use open dns [11:23] put these in /etc/resolv.conf [11:23] nameserver 208.67.222.222 [11:23] nameserver 208.67.220.220 [11:24] let me give that a spin, thanks [11:24] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-125-109.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [11:25] rapid (n=rapid@c210-49-80-29.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [11:25] bleh, I don't like python: how can I test if a variable is equal to some string? what's the syntax? >< [11:26] Pim (n=ldjf@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Client Quit [11:26] yup, that fixed it, i will keep it for the weekend, maybe after christmas break somebody will fix my ISP's namervers [11:26] Pig_Pen: setting up bind speeds things up a little too. [11:27] Pig_Pen, you can leave your isp's ones in resolv.conf aswell [11:27] hmm, i never messed around with bind before [11:28] Pig_Pen: http://www.basicconfig.com/slackware_linux_dns_server_setup [11:28] yeah, oobe, i just commented out my ISP's numbers for the time being [11:31] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.66.89) joined ##slackware. [11:32] so i can just use that section for making a private bind server and then i wont have to depend on any outside nameserver? [11:33] pim_ (n=ldjf@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:34] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [11:35] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) joined ##slackware. [11:36] Pig_Pen: no without a domain name, you're just using it as a caching name server for localhost, so it will just speed things up. [11:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:40] yeah, thats the idea, it just builds my own cache that matches URLs with the ip address or whatever goes on behind the curtain [11:40] \o/ [11:40] if they would build that in to webbrowsers it would eliminate a hell of a lot of work that ISPs have to do [11:42] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:43] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-177-144.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [11:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:47] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. 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[12:14] Tirili: vls plays everything [12:15] vlc* [12:15] mplayer [12:15] Camarade_Tux: if it makes it so i dont have to rely on my ISP for every friggin website i visit then i think it would be a great idea, although i do think users should be able to disable that feature if they wanted to [12:15] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-206-149.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [12:15] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] Pig_Pen: it'll always need a DNS somewhere [12:17] hacfed (n=fed@host86-140-255-230.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [12:17] vlc and mplayer both are not a part of slackware, are they? [12:18] mplayer is [12:18] Also in 12.2? [12:18] depends on the slackware version [12:18] in 12.2 it is not [12:18] but vlc's homepage has a slackware package [12:18] ok [12:18] I'll try vlc. [12:20] ghett0 (n=ghetto@78.166.128.131) left irc: "Leaving" [12:23] hcfd (n=fed@host86-131-177-144.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:23] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [12:27] ydooW_ (n=ydooW@87.241.179.153) joined ##slackware. [12:29] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:31] ok I have installed vlc now, but I don't know how to watch the video content now. There is a VIDEO_TS folder on the cd. But when I click on a file in it like VTS_01_0.VOB and try to "open with" vlc, it just says:File reading failed: VLC could not read the file. [12:31] read vlc manuals [12:33] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [12:37] greetings [12:37] wertik|wrk (n=wertik@95-24-56-99.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:38] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-67-162-31-157.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:39] ydooW (n=ydooW@87.241.167.195) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:39] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-56-99.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:41] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.247.110) joined ##slackware. [12:43] The manuals tells me to use the "Open Disk" function. [12:44] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:44] But when I use it, the video doesn't start. And it doesn't when I click on play either. [12:48] read more [12:51] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.145.89) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:52] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [12:52] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [12:53] mancha: do you see anything wrong with this http://pastebin.ca/1727640 [13:00] tclayton, you don't have a src/dst pair [13:01] Dupainaubeurre (n=Dupainau@cmz91-1-82-242-77-27.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] mancha, do you have a hint for me where to read more? I get these error messages when I open vlc in a terminal and try the "open disc" function: http://pastebin.com/m3b1913ad [13:02] Tirili, install libdvdcss ? [13:03] merry morning-after christmas. every one sober yet? :) [13:03] Tirili try with mplayer? [13:04] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Connection timed out [13:04] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-071-068-037-030.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:04] Tirili i did so manually in console with a dvd movie; mounted it then picked each file to play in mc [13:05] Purple the issue here is a css encrypted dvd, he just needs the t-shirt lib [13:05] ah [13:06] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-6.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:08] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-071-068-037-030.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:08] anyone here on a qt3-based system installed qt4 (in peaceful co-existence)? [13:08] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-071-068-037-030.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:09] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-071-068-037-030.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:09] nixchix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-209-77.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:09] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:10] anyone here from Vancouver [13:11] ? [13:12] this probably isn't a slackware related issue so i'd like to ask privat about Internet Service Providers there... [13:14] johnbristol (n=john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:14] johnbristol (n=john@cpc3-aztw22-2-0-cust21.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:15] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@168-103-58-52.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:17] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-209-77.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:18] Dupainaubeurre (n=Dupainau@cmz91-1-82-242-77-27.fbx.proxad.net) left ##slackware. [13:18] Ah, thank you, now it works. I had to install the libdvdread package too. [13:18] errordeveloper (n=barby@host86-129-179-166.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:18] nixchix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-209-77.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:18] now the important question: what dvd is it [13:19] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-168.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:19] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-188-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [13:19] A video dvd that my father has bought himself I have to make the computer play. I don't really care about what it is.. [13:19] John Fogerty [13:20] Or did you ask for the kind of dvd? [13:20] I don't know much about dvds. [13:20] no, i just wanted to know what it was of... [13:20] that's more interesting to me that the vlc internals :) [13:21] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-188-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [13:21] Are you from America? Do you know John Fogerty? [13:21] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:21] i know fogerty, he's a a solid rock singer [13:22] he used to be in a group that had a big following, creedence clearwater revival (aka creedence) [13:22] Yeah looks so. ;) [13:23] ah [13:23] I have a local folder of this machine mounted on other machine trough cifs, how can I delete and change files on the other machine? [13:23] impy (n=impy@163.63-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [13:23] the smb.conf have write options [13:24] its a permissions issue [13:25] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.145.89) joined ##slackware. [13:25] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-209-77.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:26] witukind (n=witukind@ip-213-49-233-20.dsl.scarlet.be) left irc: "Leaving" [13:27] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-168.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [13:28] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:30] Skywise (n=noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) joined ##slackware. [13:31] hey guys, anyone know of a tool to help design/organize a cluster of servers? [13:31] i have a whole swarm thats come about organically, and i'd like to be able to structure it [13:32] i don't wanna get into vms tho [13:32] nixchix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-209-77.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] even tho thats prolly where i'll eventually end up at [13:33] Tirili, dad has good taste. [13:33] Karu (n=alch@78-28-64-158.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:34] had it been madonna or ace of base then i'd feel less inclined to help set it up :P [13:35] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:35] Axius (n=fim@92.85.31.33) joined ##slackware. [13:37] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-56-99.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:39] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. 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I set activity message, after it i have typed command in climm window ":monitor on", swithced to another window, but screen doesn't notify me about activity in climm window :( [13:44] what can i replace it with so i still have the menu buttons working to shutdown/reboot/etc [13:44] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [13:44] maybe any ideas?.. [13:44] and battery status in systray .. [13:45] just disable all the buggy bits .. like lid-open causing session lock, really annoying, but it's appears to be dissabled in the config window [13:45] spiko (i=1000@89-212-173-113.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [13:46] be sure you disable it for hte right profile [13:46] also, it's probably not using guidance power manager, but powerdevil [13:47] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Client Quit [13:48] zarock (i=zarock@olaf.pepin.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[14:01] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-211-170.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:01] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.39.142) joined ##slackware. [14:03] Razec (n=razec@189-92-30-96.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [14:04] incognito (n=r00t@adsl-154-152-237.cae.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] hi i know there are many ways to install slackware but i want to install slackware dual boot thru wifi is that possible [14:05] or how would i setup an install from a partition on an external drive [14:06] and is there a faster way to get backages besides having to download them one by one and running each build script [14:07] nixchix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-209-77.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: No route to host [14:08] Xeliaa (i=Hyena@lain.mystydragon.com) joined ##slackware. [14:08] thrice`: hm, who the hell is the powerdevil ? [14:10] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.225.15.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:10] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) left irc: "Leaving." [14:11] errordeveloper, the default power-management stuff in kde [14:11] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-231-169.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [14:11] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [14:12] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@109.76.62.227) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:12] ok ..so what's the most fuking reliable powermanager ?? [14:12] i'm well sick of this buggy business! ;)~ [14:13] the problem is that this is my gf's laptop, [14:13] troys_ (n=troys@h-68-165-100-2.dnvtco56.static.covad.net) left irc: "Leaving" [14:13] on my own machine i won't need any pm thing, it'd be done manually [14:14] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-3-239.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:14] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [14:16] I honeslty am not sure what guidance-power-manager still adds, or if its used at all. powerdevil has been default for a while, I think [14:17] ok, i see [14:17] if you're editing in powerdevil (which, you are, if you click on the battery icon and push edit), be sure that you edit it for different profiles. I think it uses 4 profiles by default (which is retarded) [14:19] so, if you're pushing "don't lock the screen when I open my lid," but for the wrong profile than what it is currently using, it wont' work :) [14:20] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:21] thrice`: ok, i see now [14:22] Nick change: incognito -> coolkehon [14:22] i just thought that the settings are all in the window which pops if you click on the battery icon ;)~ [14:22] Nick change: coolkehon -> incognito [14:22] but may be i could do with two profiles hey .. [14:23] Nick change: incognito -> coolkehon [14:23] definitely. I don't see why so many are needed, but that's me :) seems complex [14:25] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: "Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you." [14:28] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. 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[15:13] did santa bring you want you wanted, nix_chix0r ? [15:14] i got no presents:( [15:14] not even a Daisy Redrider BB gun? [15:14] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] :P [15:14] those shoot eyes out:( [15:15] you need that BB gun to save the homestead from Black Bart! [15:16] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:16] any sugestion on a fast ftp to download current? [15:17] slackware.oregonstate.edu or tds [15:17] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [15:18] BlackGoat (n=titan@75-16-178-113.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/ [15:18] Good afternoon, all [15:18] Pig_Pen: why slackware? [15:18] dios_mio: why not slackware? [15:18] errordeveloper (n=barby@host86-129-179-166.range86-129.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [15:19] Pig_Pen, lame xmas reaally [15:19] dios_mio: Because Slackware is one of the only remaining Linux distros that doesn't make me want to vomit bees. [15:19] amaranthine (n=fire|bir@173-17-139-25.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [15:19] amaranthine (n=fire|bir@173-17-139-25.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Client Quit [15:19] for instance why is ubuntu bad? [15:19] personal choice [15:19] dios_mio: what makes you think ubuntu is good? [15:20] hey guys a have a question , in alienBOB's mirror-slackware script he shows this for a cron job 00 6 * * * /usr/local/bin/mirror-slackware-current.sh -q -o DVD , my question is since the script makes a dvd iso already for me could i jsut add this to my crom like this 00 6 * * * /usr/local/bin/mirror-slackware-current.sh > /dev/null ? [15:20] use what you like [15:20] oh god [15:20] bleeding|edge (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [15:20] dios_mio: Not a question of bad vs. good as much as personal preference. [15:20] hmm ok then [15:21] Anyone installed E16 on Slack13 x64? I'm having no end of trouble compiling Imlib2 from source. [15:21] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:21] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [15:22] Pig_Pen [15:22] check your damn messages you fat s10 redneck [15:22] s10? s-8-10 you mean? [15:23] say-ten [15:23] BlackGoat: i think you need to edit the slackbuild to $ARCH:-x86_64 [15:23] Pig_Pen: Thanks, will try that. [15:24] messages? ah, irssi is not very intuitive when it comes to messages, it only puts a little bitty number in the bottom corner and i miss it [15:25] :> [15:25] what was that device you were talking about [15:25] the little router embedded thing [15:25] i wanted to buy one a while back but forgot the name [15:25] SDR? software defined radio? [15:25] no the router [15:25] didn't you say you wnted to buy one [15:25] the little one you plug into the power socket [15:26] not me [15:26] ah crap [15:26] zarock (i=zarock@olaf.pepin.pl) left irc: "scrouix" [15:26] zarock (i=zarock@olaf.pepin.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:27] you mean dlan? [15:27] i freaking forgot, i had seen it on some blogs [15:27] zarock (i=zarock@olaf.pepin.pl) left irc: Client Quit [15:27] the tiny hardawre you can use as a router [15:27] the one where you could run linux oni t [15:27] zarock (i=zarock@olaf.pepin.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:28] ah no. don't know that. [15:28] there are a ton but there was one that was more popular [15:28] you can run linux on different wlan routers [15:29] bleeding|edge (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever."). [15:29] openwrt,dd-something [15:29] yea but there was this nice hardware that was like 100 or 200 bux [15:29] i can't believe i forgot the name [15:29] BlackGoat (n=titan@75-16-178-113.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:30] check out http://www.linuxfordevices.com/ they have lots of little linux powered gadgets like that jeev [15:30] just articles and reviews [15:30] i will [15:31] hello; [15:31] i would [15:31] hi fredoslack [15:31] want [15:31] convert a deb package into [15:31] a tgz package [15:31] Hi Pig_Pen [15:32] fredoslack: press the "enter" key less often, write more per line :P [15:32] fredoslack: well, chances are you can't use it but give a link to it anyway [15:32] there is something names alien that can convert one package format to another including debs but i am not sure if it runs on Linux, (i guess it can) [15:32] Camarade_Tux, hi, yes sorry [15:33] http://freshmeat.net/projects/alien [15:33] alien, ok [15:34] Well [15:35] tomorrow i will install [15:35] slack 64 [15:35] now, i'am running with Ubuntu [15:35] Action: Camarade_Tux dies [15:35] lol [15:36] you better watch out dying with deco around [15:36] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:37] true [15:37] pthreat (i=bed205f9@gateway/web/freenode/x-qtaktzyvdsbueqzj) joined ##slackware. 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[15:51] ChArLok_16 (n=WRX2@78.110.108.93) left irc: "leaving" [15:51] what piece of software included in full install i can use to send mail with mutt? [15:52] Axius (n=fim@92.85.31.33) joined ##slackware. [15:52] imapd [15:52] sendmail [15:55] happy boxing day brain damage. [15:55] happy recovery people! <3 [15:55] n8 all [15:56] Kamel (n=1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] random-jellyfish (n=hostile@79.113.177.12) joined ##slackware. [15:57] How to switch between servers? [15:57] Pig_Pen: will take a look, thanks [15:59] Axius (n=fim@92.85.31.33) left irc: "Changing server" [16:00] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [16:00] blender_ (n=brandonf@c-71-198-128-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [16:02] just installed slack 13 and having trouble installing tgz packs on kde. says missing important package kde-config, I read someplace that its called kde4-config. was wondering if i installed kde wrong or something [16:02] Axius (n=fim@92.85.31.33) joined ##slackware. [16:02] anyone with problems on xchat in current? [16:03] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC31385.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. 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They asked a question, received an answer, next .... ;) [16:29] good point ;) [16:29] thrice, Pig_Pen: i have a bare bone slack system... i installed qt main package and the glibc package [16:29] now it complains about limits.h [16:29] when ever i try to compile a program [16:29] kernel-headers [16:29] Kamel (n=1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:29] cteg, yeah somebody told me about it... let me try [16:29] yup, or in the kernel source in asm [16:30] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:30] blender_ (n=brandonf@c-71-198-128-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:31] cteg, that was it... thank you. [16:31] np [16:31] Reav_ (n=Sarge@41.221.87.249) left irc: "Leaving." [16:32] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-213-54.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [16:33] Axius (n=ade@92.85.31.33) joined ##slackware. [16:33] Kamel (n=1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] So I'm trying to install plan9 on my slackware VPS and I encountered this error http://pastebin.com/m2de879b1 - does anyone know some possible causes? [16:35] Axius (n=ade@92.85.31.33) left irc: Client Quit [16:36] raelakoira (n=raela@c-76-100-139-184.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:37] khider: did you do a partial install? [16:38] Camarade_Tux: I didn't install it at all, the VPS service took care of the installation and it was completely automated. However I did needto install pretty much everything (from emacs to gcc) by hand [16:38] Well [16:39] Not by hand, I just used the .tgz packages in the slackware repositories [16:39] khider: what VPS provider do you use? [16:39] mandatory linode comment? :P [16:39] ;) [16:39] Lawlz [16:39] and it's in binutils [16:39] How'd you know? [16:40] Yes, linode [16:40] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.43.160) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:40] khider: because there is a fair amount of people here who use linode for their vps. [16:40] hehe :P [16:40] Oh heh [16:40] and BP{k} is one of them ;-) [16:40] Splendid. Then you've encountered this before? [16:40] anyway, try installing binutils, chances are you'll need several others though [16:40] also the image used bty linode is *NOT* in any /way/ /shape/ /form/ or /definition/ a complete install. in fact it is about as barebones as you can get. [16:40] I figured as much when I tried to use a slackbuild and it failed on 'find' [16:41] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:41] basically it exists at just enough to get your node booted. and it gives you wget to get the rest that is needed. [16:42] find? ouch, that hurts [16:42] Axius (n=fim@92.85.31.33) joined ##slackware. [16:42] hehe It was no biggie [16:42] ea_suter (n=easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:42] Seems like you have a distaste for linode! [16:43] hi folks [16:43] khider: who? [16:43] Axius (n=fim@92.85.31.33) left irc: Client Quit [16:45] I have a problem with a slackware net-install: I'm installing slackware64-current using the bootable usb image, but for about 20 minutes now the installationa appears to be stalled on the "make" package. It's just sitting there. I used another console to see if my connection is still up, and it is, and I can ping the server I am using to get the files from [16:46] BP{k}: Cmarade_Tux, i was kidding [16:46] Is there any way to figure out what the problem is and perhaps continue the installation from where it is now? [16:46] s/, /, but/g [16:47] khider: been running a linode since 2008 :) first in dallas, then newark, now in their London DC. :) [16:47] Wicked, I've got my vps on their Newark location now [16:47] Is anyone using pypanel? I'm getting some x86_64 lib path issues [16:47] My purpose is to get a web server with plan9/werc working [16:50] gr1Mo (n=gr1Mo@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] gr1Mo (n=gr1Mo@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:50] crashdata (n=crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] gr1Mo (n=gr1Mo@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:50] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC31385.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [16:52] man, kernels are getting ridiculously large; linus needs to hook up with jenny craig [16:53] this is a very noob question....i'm trying to isntall x64 flash plugin...from slackbuild....do i need to edit the (program).slackbuild to run this? [16:53] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-159-249.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [16:54] hi there [16:54] crashdata: run it as ARCH=x86_64 ./foo.SlackBuild [16:54] if it' noob, you're in good company; it's about the third time it's come up, iirc [16:55] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [16:55] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC31385.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:55] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." [16:55] Camarade_Tux, k i'll try that [16:56] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [16:56] or run 'export ARCH=x86_64' first [16:56] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [16:56] what's the difference? [16:56] gr1Mo (n=gr1Mo@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:56] hoobop, that often eh :) [16:57] ;) [16:57] Camarade_Tux, I tried the first solution u offered ad it worked. [16:57] ad=and [16:57] gr1Mo (n=gr1Mo@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] Anyone knows why yahoo doesn't show the ip address of the sender in the full headers anymore? Any way to find out from what IP and e-mail was sent? [16:58] gr1Mo (n=gr1Mo@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:58] gr1Mo (n=gr1Mo@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:58] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [16:59] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-188-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:00] spiko (i=1000@89-212-173-113.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:01] crashdata: =) [17:02] cant believe x64 is pretty stable [17:03] why not? [17:03] it's been working pretty well for me [17:04] tappitahti (n=tappitah@88-196-188-224-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:04] i just thought there werent many users using it.. [17:04] so i thought it wasnt supported well [17:06] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-168.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:07] There are lots of users on x64 these days [17:07] yah it seems like it.... [17:07] i've always x64 on windows [17:08] when i decided to migrate to linux i wanted to use x64 [17:09] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [17:09] i've been using x32 all this time thinking x64 is not stable [17:09] brb guys, i'm going to install my video driver [17:09] crashdata (n=crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [17:10] hello slackworld! [17:11] crashdata (n=crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:11] done :) [17:12] I'm trying to build wxPython for multilib. I have sourced the 32dev.sh. Removed "64" from LIBDIRSUFFIX. I use the nvidia drivers and reinstalled them after i went multilib to include the 32bit library's. http://pastebin.org/68903 is it nvidia's libGL.so that's the issue here? [17:12] gr1Mo (n=gr1Mo@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: [17:13] gr1Mo (n=gr1Mo@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:13] spiko (i=1000@89-212-173-113.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [17:13] It builds fine when not sourcing for 32bit compatibility. [17:14] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-213-54.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [17:14] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:15] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:18] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [17:19] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [17:20] agentc0re: i bet that is what it is, nvidia has a 32 bit build and a 64 bit build but not a build that is compaible with both in the same package [17:20] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:21] Pig_Pen: well you do get the options to install 32bit compatible library's during the installation. They are there in /usr/lib. [17:22] oh? the 64 bit nvidia driver offers 32 bit compatability? ok, my bad, nevermind dumb ol' me then ;p [17:22] nah, your fine. [17:25] ohdannyboy (n=dan@pool-96-254-20-102.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:53] having trouble installing any tgz, only get errors, anything i can do? [17:54] be a little more vague so we can improve our help/answers [17:54] ouch... lmoa [17:54] lmao* [17:54] that put smile on my face :) [17:55] sorry [17:55] i just installed slack13, and for some reason i can't install any tgz packs [17:55] if it is *.tgz then it might be for an earlier slackware (if it is an official package) since all official slack13 packages are *.txz [17:55] pim_ (n=ldjf@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Client Quit [17:56] ah [17:56] i see [17:56] pthreat (i=bed205f9@gateway/web/freenode/x-qtaktzyvdsbueqzj) left irc: "Page closed" [17:56] but this, in itself, would not give an installpkg error. so again, the help improves if you make your question more specific [17:58] "i get lots of errors installing packages, what to do?" <--- bad. "when installing n00b.tgz with intstallpkg i get the following error: all your base are belong to us" <--- good [17:58] trying to install wicd from slackbuilds.org, package built fine, when i go to install i just get a bunch of characters, long list of "Unkown" then a fail to install [17:58] this happens with all packages i try to install [17:58] can you pastebin it ? [17:58] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Connection timed out [17:59] you got the script from the 13.0 portion of slckbuilds.org right? [17:59] wicd isn't in SBo. [17:59] 12.* [17:59] That's old. [18:00] not really [18:00] i've installed old packages before and not those types of problems [18:00] ok, you should go to an official mirror and get wicd from extras [18:00] deco: referring to the wicd version [18:00] ah ok [18:00] link? [18:01] vehn_z (n=vehn_z@62.133.182.52) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:01] pastebin the errors though, i don't see much in the way of breakage when using an old script on v13 [18:01] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) joined ##slackware. [18:01] 32 or 64 bit? [18:02] ok, took too long, here's 32 bits: http://my.favorite-mirror.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/extra/wicd/ [18:03] sorry, i'm working between the box i installed slack on and another [18:03] i'm trying to get the wireless up [18:03] which makes pastebin an issue [18:03] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:03] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn47.78-99-109.t-com.sk) left ##slackware ("good night"). [18:03] heh...good to get rid of christmas calories [18:03] aha, ok, what is the error when you "installpkg wicd.tgz" ? [18:03] run run [18:04] linXea (n=slackbox@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:04] blender_, i believe u might be able to use slackpkg install wicd [18:04] ahh but then u have no net..nvm [18:04] lolz [18:05] working on it [18:05] If he installed from the DVD, it would be on disk. [18:06] true. [18:06] its in extra dir. [18:06] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-6.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [18:07] http://pastebin.com/m3f6f3176 [18:07] NaCl can clarify the issue with the one in slack 13's extras...it is buggy methinks (regex issue) [18:07] best bet is to use the buildscriptwith the newer version [18:07] (iirc) [18:08] blender, ok that is plain old wrong [18:08] what command do you use to generate that crapfest? [18:08] mancha: no thinking onvolved. [18:09] slackpkg install *** [18:09] aha! [18:09] wrong. use "installpkg file.tgz" [18:09] ok [18:09] that would explain [18:10] blender_: you should try using wpa supplicant there is a gui included with full install of slackware. [18:10] dios_mio (n=test@88.243.7.93) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:10] mancha: no, you can use slackpkg install $NAME without tgz or txz and it will search and find it. It does for me. [18:11] blender, i still recommend getting the skeleton build from your dvd (extras) and dl'ing the newer wicd, and building from that (versus that 12.2 thing you have) [18:11] if its in the repo, agentc0re [18:11] i have wicd installed now [18:11] however [18:11] upgrade to 1.6.2.2 [18:11] oh [18:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:13] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] does v13 come with urwid? [18:15] yes [18:16] ok, so no worries there then, nothing needed to have it all working, inclusive of the world famous curses interface [18:16] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:16] world-famous indeed. ;) [18:16] hah [18:16] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [18:16] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-188-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [18:18] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Client Quit [18:18] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [18:20] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:20] macius (n=macius@i209-195-107-184.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:20] macius (n=macius@i209-195-107-184.cia.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:21] hello [18:21] how can i set my default soundcard in alsa? [18:21] will wicd have issues if the rc.inet1.conf file was messed with? [18:21] ezrafree: run as sudo: alsaconf [18:22] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: [18:22] blender_: if it does you can get a clean copy out of /n/network-scripts [18:26] gnubien: what should i do if my card isn't showing up in the list? [18:27] ezrafree: hit ctrl-c [18:28] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection timed out [18:28] ezrafree: you want a usb card to be default sound card? [18:28] gnubien: yeah, is that possible? [18:28] i'm able to use the usb card, but i have to set it up manually in every program to use hw=1 [18:28] err, to use hw=1,0 [18:28] ezrafree: yes, usb cards do not show up in alsaconf [18:29] ezrafree run this command and then paste output to this channel: cat /proc/asound/modules [18:29] oh ok, so is there any way to get a web browser to use my usb sound card? [18:29] 0 snd_emu10k1 [18:29] 1 snd_usb_audio [18:29] that's the output (sorry for the paste) [18:29] yes on the browser sound [18:30] ezrafree: edit as sudo /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf [18:30] okay, it's empty right now [18:30] but i have the file open [18:30] ezrafree: add these 2 lines to the bottom of the file: options snd-emu10k1 index=-2 options snd-usb-audio index=-1 [18:31] ezrafree: then you restart the alsa script in /etc/rc.d [18:32] ezrafree: then see if card order is changed with this... [18:32] ezrafree paste output of this command to this channel: cat /proc/asound/cards [18:32] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [18:33] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [18:33] gnubien: no it still shows Live (the internal card) as card 0 [18:33] ezrafree: ok, test it on next reboot [18:34] ezrafree: now you can run this as sudo: rmmod snd-usb-audio; rmmod snd-emu10k1; modprobe snd-usb-audio; modprobe snd-emu10k1 [18:35] ezrafree: you might look here: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/.asoundrc [18:36] there is a script which creates a .asoundrc for your fav. card [18:36] paissad_ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:36] alsaconf is kind of deprecated anyway [18:37] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [18:37] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.27) left irc: [18:38] paissad_ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Client Quit [18:39] blender__ (n=brandonf@c-71-198-128-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:39] blender, how's wicd working out? [18:39] thank you all for your help [18:39] it works now? you're connected from that machine? [18:40] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:40] it works, but i have to install bitchx [18:40] aha, old skool irc'ing [18:40] what does this output, blender: wicd-client -h | grep "^wicd" [18:41] paissad_ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:41] ERROR: Module snd_emu10k1 is in use [18:42] Hoogin (n=hoogin@host50-128.etanet.se) left ##slackware. [18:42] gnubien: that's the error i get when trying to rmmod snd-emu10k1 [18:42] gnubien: i just rebooted first [18:42] noone has to install bitchx =) [18:42] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] wicd 1.6.2.1 [18:43] bitchx has died as a development project...which means any new vulnerabilities will not be addressed (unless someone adopts the project) [18:43] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] blender_ (n=brandonf@c-71-198-128-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:43] -n --no-tray Run wicd without the tray icon [18:43] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [18:43] you should consider moving to 1.6.2.2 and you didn't use my command exactly as i gave it, you forgot the "^" [18:44] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [18:46] i'll do the move soon [18:47] thank you for the help [18:47] grazymax (n=grazymax@host20-159-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [18:48] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [18:48] ins't that why bitchx was dropped forms lackware? [18:49] hello. merry old xmas and happy next year [18:49] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:49] hello person [18:49] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:49] toastytoast: on the internet nobody knows you are a dog... [18:50] wait how did you know i was a dog? [18:50] my instict [18:50] instinct [18:50] anyway i'm going to watch dr who [18:51] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [18:51] k. go and watch in peace [18:52] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:53] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:53] http://imagebin.org/76980 (rated G for anyone and everyone) :D [18:54] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [18:54] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-231-169.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:54] but (it) is not plugged [18:54] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-95-39.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:55] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:58] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:58] as soon as they invent a 120 volt kid they come lighted [19:00] original, anyway [19:00] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:00] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [19:01] yeah, the funniest christmas card we seen in a long time [19:01] nargon (i=mike@217.194.139.22) joined ##slackware. [19:03] yep, imagine both become lighted in red, including eyes :-) [19:05] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [19:08] zippo123 (n=djames_0@41.219.250.162) joined ##slackware. [19:09] zippo123 (n=djames_0@41.219.250.162) left ##slackware. [19:09] yoyoned (n=todd@99-28-32-154.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [19:09] Kamel (n=1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:11] sysbr (n=sysbr@201-27-107-214.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:12] coolkehon (n=r44t@adsl-154-152-237.cae.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:14] Kamel (n=1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:15] arcfide (n=arcfide@ppp-70-246-149-137.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [19:18] cailee (n=cailee@ip68-230-166-117.mc.at.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:18] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [19:18] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC01DC1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:18] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:21] Damian (n=Damian@c-2527e255.37-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [19:22] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:27] crashdata (n=crash@S01060026188184f4.vs.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:30] when i cat /proc/asound/modules i now see my "Pro" card listed as number "5" instead of "1" and the card that was "0" is now "1" [19:32] i'm trying to disable my internal sound card and make my usb sound card the default, in alsa [19:32] any other ideas? [19:32] you can use fixed indexes [19:33] how would i go about that Nigromante? [19:33] example, i have a file called "sound" in my /etc/modprobe.d/ [19:33] and lines: [19:33] options snd-hda-intel index=0 [19:33] options snd-usb-audio index=1 [19:34] for the kernel modules [19:34] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:36] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-116-47.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [19:37] rapid_ (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [19:38] agris (n=agris@mail.biko.lv) joined ##slackware. [19:41] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:42] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:42] crn__ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) joined ##slackware. [19:43] ThomasLocke_ (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:43] crn_ (n=crn@79.135.103.206) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:45] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:49] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:51] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-159-249.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [19:52] I have a problem with a slackware net-install: I'm installing slackware64-current using the bootable usb image, but for about 20 minutes now the installationa appears to be stalled on the "make" package. It's just sitting there. I used another console to see if my connection is still up, and it is, and I can ping the server I am using to get the files from [19:53] any ideas on this? [19:53] So, has anyone been able to install symphony 1.3 on Slackware? [19:53] ea_suter: It is possible that it has stalled, but I don't really know. [19:54] I also know of no way to really determine if it has stalled or not. [19:54] I usually find it easiest to download all the packages I want ahead of time onto a server that is local, that provides me with a little more reliability. [19:54] i see [19:55] Nigromante (n=Nigroman@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:55] One thing you could do would be to try to see if there is any activity involving that program. [19:55] Maybe network traffic or disk usage. If so, then the program is probably still working. Otherwise, maybe it has stalled. [19:55] well the package is only 300-odd KB [19:56] after all that time [19:56] it must have stalled: the hdd led is off and so is the network activity led [19:56] Reboot, try again :) [19:56] yeah [19:56] THe installer isn't very intelligent, I've had it barf quite a number of times. [19:57] is there any way to pick up where it left off? [19:57] Not really, unless you're positive it finished installing some sets, if you do, you can skip/deselect those. [19:57] blender__ (n=brandonf@c-71-198-128-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Will the REAL Slim BitchX please stand up?" [19:58] arcfide: doesn't symphony needs gtk? kind of full support almost gnome? ;) [19:58] I'll just start over...lol [19:59] arcfide: are you trying to install Lotus Symphony? [20:00] dhabyxc (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:01] random-jellyfish (n=hostile@79.113.177.12) left irc: "Leaving" [20:02] freelibrary (n=notRoot@e176077168.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [20:02] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-kpuchzywxpqsuoxo) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:03] freelibrary (n=notRoot@e176077168.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Client Quit [20:03] btw, does Slackware64 really need the apmd package? I'm not sure x86_64 motherboards even support that power management standard anymore [20:05] ea_suter: Yes, I am playing with getting it packaged up. [20:05] agris: I believe that some of the Lotus software requires it, but I don't see it listed in the dependencies of the Symphony RPMs. [20:05] cteg_ (n=heretic@dyndsl-091-096-098-047.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [20:06] corey (n=corey@adsl-99-56-123-92.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] arcfide: oh, that symphony... :) [20:07] actually it worked for me [20:08] beta, 1.0 [20:09] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-59-116.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:09] odd they only give distro-specific packages [20:10] a generic tarball with a .run would have been nice [20:11] oh [20:11] rpm2tgz - have you tried [20:11] ? [20:12] or rpm -i --nodeps --oneother [20:13] if you can extract the archive contents then you could use ldd the find the library dependencies [20:13] and their versions [20:14] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:14] eg: [20:14] okay i have finally got it so that my USB soundcard shows up first in /procs/asound/modules but still when i launch my browser i cannot hear sound. any ideas? [20:15] ldd /usr/bin/qmake [20:15] will give the list of library deps [20:15] ezeafree, have you added yourself to the "audio" group [20:15] ? [20:15] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) got netsplit. [20:15] Kowalczy1 (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) got netsplit. [20:15] Rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) got netsplit. [20:15] alice_c (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) got netsplit. [20:16] ea_suter: yes, and other programs can hear sound through the same usb sound card, just not my web browser's plugins [20:17] caoliver1 (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:18] a friend of mine had a problem that sounds a bit like yours and he mentioned something about some oss module being the problem [20:18] after unloading it the sound worked....don't remember the specifics though, sorry :( [20:19] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.82.170) joined ##slackware. [20:19] ang (n=ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:19] yeah that sounds similar to what i've been reading. saw where some people put disable lines for their soundcard in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist [20:19] but my card is already listed there [20:20] I've been working on this symphony for a while, and I have figured out a few things, but nonetheless, there seem to be issues with the java or something that just aren't working. [20:20] impulse (n=impy@163.63-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: [20:20] I've already tried the RPM install, and I've already used ldd and all that jaz. [20:20] this had more to do with disabling some module insertion in /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa [20:20] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B5CBA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [20:20] I just don't know what exactly he did :( [20:21] alice_c (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) got lost in the net-split. [20:21] Kowalczy1 (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) got lost in the net-split. [20:21] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) got lost in the net-split. [20:21] Rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) got lost in the net-split. [20:21] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) got netsplit. [20:21] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@priv.zoubi.org) got netsplit. [20:21] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) got netsplit. [20:21] stunix (i=1000@85.19.141.138) got netsplit. [20:21] arcfide: oh... so what error is it giving then? [20:21] ea_suter: Hang on, I'm trying another approach, I'll show you as soon as I have it up. [20:21] arcfide: and how far have you gone? where stopped? [20:21] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) returned to ##slackware. [20:21] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@priv.zoubi.org) returned to ##slackware. [20:21] v3gard (n=v3gard@svale.hia.no) returned to ##slackware. [20:21] stunix (i=1000@85.19.141.138) returned to ##slackware. [20:21] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [20:22] agris: it stops at the configuration part with the rcplauncher, and I don't know the right encantations to make it work. There are a bunch of Java-based errors there. [20:22] The problem is that the RPM doesn't report any such errors, it just doesn't install the binaries or the links. [20:23] With a little effort I did manage to find out where binaries were, and I did manage to find out how to invoke them to some degree, but I didn't get anywhere with that, except for an endlessly looping EULA page. [20:23] :( [20:23] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-125-109.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:25] I don't believe it: the IBM "Forgot password" link sends me to a page with a list of phone numbers and emails [20:26] no automated means of password recovery O_o [20:27] wanted to download the symphony rpm and help out... [20:27] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [20:28] khider (n=khider@dsl-67-55-21-150.acanac.net) left irc: "leaving" [20:29] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@h80ad26b5.async.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [20:30] ezrafree: check this page out: http://nileshbansal.blogspot.com/2006/09/firefox-linux-and-audio.html [20:30] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [20:30] one commenter says that the solution worked with a USB sound card [20:31] slackwarebob (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-231-19.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:32] Rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [20:32] alice_c (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:33] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-20-57.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:34] LITesterB (n=Bob@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:35] caoliver1 (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [20:36] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) joined ##slackware. [20:39] LITesterB (n=Bob@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:48] arcfide: I'll try and find out when new Symphony RPMs are going to appear. I have no problems running the nonpublic betas on Slackware [20:49] alienBOB: Hum, okay. Well, that would be neat if you could find out. :-) I can't seem to figure out what configuration to run or why they don't seem to run on Slackware. [20:49] It really confuses me. [20:50] Although, is it really that hard to release a slackware package? :-) [20:50] Or at least something that can be turned into a Slackware package. [20:50] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-25-26.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:50] Nick change: powtrix_ -> powtrix [20:51] arcfide: are you trying to make a Slackbuild? or just a plain binary package? [20:52] ea_suter: Symphony is only released in binary form [20:52] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:55] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-59-116.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:55] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) got netsplit. [20:55] Rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) got netsplit. [20:55] alice_c (n=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) got netsplit. 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[21:23] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:23] Does anyone have a good explanation why the emacs in current is still 22.3? Emacs 23. has been out for a while now. [21:23] And it is VERY solid. [21:23] after he gets answered i'd like an explanation of why emacs is still around, period. [21:23] comp_ (n=comp_@89.47.86.13) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:23] You're obviously not an emacs user. [21:23] i'm scared of you guys, it's a religion! [21:23] Slackware has emacs in it's own "E" package set so that it can be easily skipped during installation ;-) [21:23] I'm not an emacs cultist. I've just use it as my editor since the eighties. [21:23] You can always send a request to have emacs updated, to Pat (volkerdi@) caoliver [21:23] it's gotten to the point where emacs can be 'extended' to do just about everything [21:23] Is there a way I can personally help with the new version?\ [21:23] But I remember that the new emacs package is a lot bigger sized than the current one [21:23] lol @ mancha scared of emacsnuts. [21:23] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [21:23] I don't recall. I have mine compiled without all the xft soft font stuff and gtk support. [21:24] So at least in RAM isn't not too bad. [21:24] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:24] there is zile if you want a console based emacish text editor, unless you like that big old bloated kitchen sink [21:24] after I couldn't ctrl-x out of emaxs one time, I felt claustrophobic. never emacs since. [21:24] Ha! [21:24] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [21:24] That sounds like the ED screed. [21:25] Refused telnet@proxyscan.freenode.net (invalid handle: CONNECT 2) [21:25] http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html See: "typical novice's session" [21:28] what emacs do you have 22.3? [21:28] alienBOB: Aside from submitting a suggestion for 23.0, how can I help with emacs? [21:28] paul0_ (n=paulogey@189.26.128.79.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:29] Hang a sec. [21:29] wombat% /site/bin/emacs --version [21:29] GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 [21:29] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-206-229.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:29] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/session) joined ##slackware. [21:29] LnxSlck_ (n=LnxSlck@bl4-206-229.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:29] LnxSlck_ (n=LnxSlck@bl4-206-229.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Client Quit [21:31] i am debating recompiling my entire X [21:31] paul0 (n=paulogey@189.4.104.112) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:31] Nick change: paul0_ -> paul0 [21:31] ea_suter (n=easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) left irc: "leaving" [21:31] but then i grow lazy and toss the idea [21:31] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-197-240.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:33] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-206-229.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:34] what's with their *.99.* numbering scheme anyways? [21:34] paul0 (n=paulogey@189.26.128.79.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:34] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:34] paul0 (n=paulogey@189.26.128.79.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:35] ea_suter (n=easuter@ev2-84-90-183-245.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[21:49] paul0 (n=paulogey@189.26.128.79.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:49] Nick change: paul0_ -> paul0 [21:49] Action: Kidpunkx removespkg all of xorg correspoundings [21:49] 0.o [21:50] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) left ##slackware ("leaving"). [21:50] caoliver: once you've done that, and can confirm that the resulting package is built correctly and works correctly, then mail a tarball (minus emacs source code) to Pat. I'd like to see it too if you'd not mind CC'ing me. [21:50] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [21:51] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) left irc: "leaving" [21:51] mancha: the *.99.* releases are RC's [21:53] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) got lost in the net-split. [21:53] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:53] Does anyone know what's up with pypanel and slackware-13/-current? The slackbuild was never updated on SBo and trying to run the 12.2 version causes it to segfault [21:53] The only two that appear to be relevant are xf86-input-joystick and xf86-video-xgixp though - the rest of them have been superceded by newer (-stable) releases [21:53] hiptobecubic: not I [21:53] Well rats [21:54] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-206-229.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Saindo" [21:55] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.145.89) joined ##slackware. [21:56] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [21:56] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-188-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [21:59] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-94-211.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:59] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-94-211.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:59] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:00] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) got netsplit. [22:01] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [22:03] deco_ (n=deco@adsl-69-108-86-66.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [22:03] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:03] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@93.87.234.230) joined ##slackware. [22:06] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) got lost in the net-split. [22:07] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:09] crap phpmyadmin is not downloadable via sbopkg. [22:09] hiptobecubic (n=john@75.111.161.89) left irc: Client Quit [22:10] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:15] rworkman: Thanks for the help. So far, I've just set up slackware stuff for my own systems, so this is a bit of an adventure. Also, I need to accept that most emacs users are like to want all the bells and whistles rather than my eccentrically trimmed down version. [22:17] s/like/likely/ [22:17] rworkman: At this time, are the only platforms I need to check x86_64 and X86_32? [22:18] While I set my systems up as 64 bit workstations, I can use qemu-kvm to test my builds on 32 bit slack. [22:19] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [22:19] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.145.89) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:20] suid0 (i=1000@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:21] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:23] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:25] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:25] rworkman, aha, thanks for the tip. [22:26] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:28] Can someone point me in the right direction so I can use the existing file notification facilities to `do something` when a symlink is particular file is being read/accessed? [22:29] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-188-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [22:30] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [22:30] X:::)))) [22:30] greetings !! [22:31] byteframe: what do you have in mind? [22:33] caoliver, person access a symlink to a random file in /mnt/Video over smb, and when they access that symlink I reassign it to another random file. Grabag for my 'tv' system... [22:34] rwork, oh right, you're pretty much the braintrust behind the X upgrades on slack, right? [22:34] Ok. You mean you want to change what a link points to everytime someone reads it. [22:35] s/everytime/every time/ [22:36] It seems to me that should be pretty trivial, but I've not written code to use inotify or dnotify. Are you competent in C? [22:36] caoliver, enough. [22:36] caoliver, doing some C right now, so I should be fresh enough. [22:36] by the time inotify sends the event, hasn't the file been read though? [22:37] Yes, but he can unlink and relink. [22:37] hoobop (n=user@unaffiliated/hoobop) joined ##slackware. [22:37] though not in time for that to appear for that user [22:37] Mancha points out a possible race condition, but it's not likely a problem. [22:38] How long are the videos? [22:38] caoliver, long. [22:39] There would be up to 3 potential smb clients I might add. [22:39] I doubt the request to access to symlink could happen over wifi+smb could happen fast... [22:39] BTW: the daemon you trigger via inotify should keep a cache of the most recently linked videos for each client, to exclude vidA vidB vidA from happening. [22:40] Unless the random generator sucks, that shouldnt be a big deal. [22:40] I got lots. [22:40] Or the pool is small. [22:40] Snap. [22:40] I'm placing my faith in you brother. [22:41] don't use debian's ssl prng :) [22:41] Action: mancha ducks [22:41] Anyhow, look as the docs for inotify(7), and see what that buys you. [22:41] Ok. I'll school myself for a bit and get back to you. [22:41] But in the end I would be writing a back ground daemon? [22:41] I suspect this doesn't need to be a crypto secure PRNG. [22:41] Yup. [22:42] it'll be a daemon that is adding notify watches an acting on events [22:42] caoliver, thanks. [22:42] But it should be pretty short coding by my guess. [22:42] if i grok caoliver's thinking on this [22:42] Good luck! [22:42] (just joined the convo) [22:42] Action: byteframe has "GNU/Linux Application Programming" from last year's xmas. might be good. [22:44] I see a loop looking for file accesses, and unlink/link calls each time it's triggered. Maybe two pages of code if you're verbose. [22:45] Will the contents of the video pool change while this is running? [22:45] caoliver: yes (re 32 and 64bit) [22:46] If so, you'll want to stat the directory, and reread it if it date of last mod changes. [22:46] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [22:46] mancha: recently, yes (re xorg) [22:46] byteframe: definitely inotifywait(1) [22:46] rwork, right. this is really coming about from wanting to u/g pixman but then i figured wth... [22:46] caoliver, it will change, usually by addition. [22:47] rworkman: I think he's going to code a daemon in C rather than scripting it. Either way, it's fairly trivial. [22:47] Yes, I see that after reading farther down :) [22:47] yeah it should be quite small, i am digging for my little code that pretty much printed something each time a file was read [22:48] i need to better name my *.c's though this is a farkin' mess [22:48] rworkman: At this time, all my boxed are slamd64 12.2, so I've got an upgrade on my platter before I get down to emacs nitty gritty, but I'll keep you informed. [22:49] mancha: What are you hacking? [22:49] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Connection timed out [22:49] cao, i'm trying to get the snippet to byte, all he has to do is replace my stuff to stfdout with some fs calls [22:49] JJJunkk (i=spole@panix1.panix.com) joined ##slackware. [22:50] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [22:50] Cool! [22:51] caoliver: you can do the testing in a virtual machine [22:51] That's the plan. [22:52] Also, in a VM, I can set up a normal Slack install rather than my heavily bastardized version. [22:52] Action: caoliver is sometimes known as Christopher (out of tree) Oliver [22:52] gr1Mo (n=gr1Mo@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: [22:52] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:52] rwork, sanity check, xserver will need to recompiled against a newer pixman, aye? [22:53] Time for a pasta break. [22:55] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [22:55] mancha, let me know if you find it. thanks. [22:58] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:02] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [23:04] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [23:07] spiko (i=1000@89-212-173-113.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:09] spiko (n=spiko@89-212-66-54.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:11] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@93.87.234.230) left irc: "Leaving" [23:12] Scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:13] Scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [23:15] mancha: shouldn't need to be [23:16] Action: rworkman is on a *horrible* network - suckier-than-usual dialup at my parents' house in Mississippi [23:16] You have my condolences. [23:16] The connection keeps dropping, and I can't do anything useful. Even grabbing email is too slow. [23:19] No option to appropriate some goon's wifi? [23:19] Ha, I wish. [23:20] I forget how painful that is. When I ran the tech end of an ISP long ago, I had my home linux box try to keep a SLIP connection up to the office. It was fine if it fell irrecoverably when I was home, but when I was at the office it was nasty. "Hey I've got that on fritz, let me ftp... err no! *#&^$&@$" [23:20] haha oops [23:20] The goon's wifi would be served from a dialup connection (or maybe satellite if I'm lucky), but even so, there's no way to reach the nearest neighbor via wifi :) [23:20] I just left a makeshift bandwidth test running and downloaded 633 megs of 0's :) [23:22] Kidpunkx (n=Masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:22] That's rather squishy. 633 megs of dd if=/dev/zero|rc4 might be better. [23:22] Kidpunkx (n=Masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:22] rc4? [23:23] stupid wifi 0.o [23:23] Old deprecated stream cipher. [23:23] Close to line noise though for this purpose; shouldn't squish at all. [23:24] caoliver, i wish i had any idea what you're talking about :-/ [23:24] Hang a sec. [23:25] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:26] for rc4 read "openssl enc -rc4 -k " [23:27] I forget I wrote that rc4 command a while back, and it's not std unix/posix/linux. [23:28] In any case, the data sent for testing bandwidth should be as close to incompressible as possible, or you might get a bogus reading. [23:28] Hence you want something as close to random as you can get it. [23:29] clear as mud? [23:29] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start" [23:32] rworkman, what about buying/borrowing a UMTS usb stick. use the cell services for net, its *much* faster than dial-up :) [23:33] ea_suter: there's no cell service here. [23:33] oh... [23:33] well that's a pickle [23:34] carrier pidgeons? tcp/ip over smoke signals? ;) [23:35] ea_suter: I have one of those through verizon, and a blackberry, and my wife has an iphone. They're all useless here. [23:35] The verizon dongle is actually my home internet service - that's the only thing I can get other than satellite (ugh - latency) or dialup. [23:36] ZMR (n=zmonge@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [23:36] Yeah pretty much like that here outside of the major cities....but even the most remote vilages have cell service [23:36] my country is a lot smaller though :-/ [23:39] Maybe someday :) [23:39] need to have one of those municipal wifi initiatives ;) [23:40] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] is google pretty slow today or is it my computer [23:45] try searching for an image or gmail [23:45] snappy over here [23:49] Is there a way to make a ./configure just keep going when it doesn't find something and then print the errors out at the end? [23:49] I hate this install a lib, run ./configure, install a lib, run ./configure cycle [23:52] not sure if there is a flag for that. you could edit the script though [23:52] don't imagine it will be much fun [23:54] nor do i [23:54] hiptobecubic, is there a "debug" flag? [23:54] if configure dies, it usually means you're missing a dependency [23:55] thrice`, yes but I'd rather find them all out at once instead of getting one at a time and rerunning ./configure for each [23:55] read the readme, or some other distros dependency list :> [23:55] that would be nice [23:55] deco_ (n=deco@adsl-69-108-86-66.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:56] reporting on missing stuff would be nice at the end of a botched config [23:56] I think most projects assume you rtfdocs before starting [23:57] Sure but if that were really the case, then configure would just plow through and you wouldn't find out until linking [23:57] ideally tho, there would be a password hidden in the readme file somewhere and you'd have to get that to untar. [23:58] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-156-251.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:58] any php folks here? [23:58] slackwarebob, except that the readme is in the tar [23:58] slackwarebob, remind me not to put you in charge of usability on my next project [23:58] how do you plan to run configure without untar'ing it? :) [23:59] piukeman (n=sebastia@host65.201-252-104.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [23:59] hello any here know how to slowdown a fan in a laptop [00:00] --- Sun Dec 27 2009