[00:00] And, actually, with very few exceptions, I tend to upgrade from source once new, stable versions appear [00:00] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [00:01] and it doesn't take several years to download and install the packages [00:01] Some things are better left to better men than I (like building KDE), but most things, I like to watch them compile, to know that they are configured for *my* system and not some generic quasi-ideal [00:01] right?!? [00:02] I believe, and I could be mistaken, but things just run better that way [00:02] another reason ubuntu package management sucks is the mirrors are the slowest I have ever seen [00:02] if there working that is [00:02] I mean, I see i386 on a large majority of packages... I've got 2.6GHz dual core. [00:03] why on earch am i missing udevinfo on my system? =/ [00:03] I don't think, with the package, I'm getting the most out of my CPU, you know? [00:03] s/earch/earth [00:03] / [00:03] MrHales: I'm suprised you don't run gentoo [00:04] frullet: because it isn't there [00:04] udevadm --help [00:04] nullboy: cheers [00:05] Action: MrHales tells his story: "I had to take a course called 'Intro to Unix' as part of a curriculum in web design. I'd never even heard of Linux. The instructor showed us ls|less and I fell in love. I asked the local guru and he told me, 'Installing Slackware is good for the soul.' I've never looked back." [00:05] MrHales: do an LFS install at least once [00:06] shoulda been: "... guru what was best and..." [00:06] I want to. I've got only the one box, at the moment [00:06] Ferrenrock (n=sampo@c-67-173-155-191.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [00:07] one of the best parts about slackware is you never have to worry about a bad release [00:07] When I get around to fleshing out the doorstop in the corner with monitor, et. al. I'm going to make that the distro-du-jour-box [00:07] Patrick is the man. [00:07] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:07] I'd praise "Bob" on that, but I converted. [00:08] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [00:09] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:10] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: [00:10] lxnm vs. wicd? [00:11] Or, perhaps a better question: Does anything beat wicd for connectivity? [00:11] Cause that thing blew me away [00:11] i use the stock scripts [00:11] MrHales, Wicd I prefer :) [00:12] Thanks, IL [00:12] take care,ladies and gents...good luck on all endeavors [00:13] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-145-79.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [00:13] MrHales, it's awesome when I can use Wicd with the "native" driver from Broadcom [00:13] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [00:14] I was fighting with the wireless card in my buddy's Vaio until I got steered to wicd [00:14] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [00:14] It makes me giggle a little bit, though, because WICD is one of the local tv stations here [00:14] nullboy: Can you give me abit of info why udevinfo was replaced by udevadm? [00:14] frullet: newer version of udev? [00:14] MrHales, what make is it? [00:14] nullboy: thank you [00:19] what make of what? [00:20] Not that anyone necessarily cares, but I finally got my copy of Arkham Horror today and that makes me the coolest kid on my block. *nod* [00:20] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left irc: "It's not my problem." [00:21] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [00:22] is that the name of a game? [00:23] Board game [00:23] Yes [00:23] more like bored game [00:24] ee math makes my head spin [00:24] A cooperative board game, no less, for 1-8 players set in mythic Arkham, Massachusetts [00:24] sounds like d&d for 2009 :P [00:25] Better. [00:25] Based on the writings of H.P. Lovecraft - the Father of Modern Horror [00:26] i prefer "the father of modern whores" [00:26] Mystery? [00:27] No, wait, you said "father' [00:27] Nobody here has heard of Lovecraft? [00:28] lol [00:28] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:28] You have *got* to be freakin' kidding me! [00:28] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:30] MrHales: now ask how many have heard of "debbie does dallas" [00:31] lovecraft the repressed whiney boy? [00:31] Howard Phillips Lovecraft. Look it up. His works should be in the public domain as most of his writings com from the 20's - 30's [00:31] I would think that most slackers would be avid proponents of Cthulhu [00:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius [00:31] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:32] November 10 [00:32] crap, dog vomiting.. brb [00:32] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [00:32] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [00:33] anyone here have experience with a/c units? :) (the ones you mount "through" the windows [00:37] Action: superGear is not thinking about a/c in Feb. [00:37] I have put said units into windows and plugged them in, but that's about it [00:38] windows? this is a linux channel!! [00:38] opps, sorry didn't look at the screen there for a moment, yeah, I got me one of them A/C units, the thing is, I haven't installed it through the window, sort of sitting indoors, with the backside facing the outside (have those nets that keep those insects outside my home). Is that going to be a huge problem? [00:38] BP{k}: ha [00:39] well, they do need to be able to drain [00:39] it currently looks like or sounds like a little bit of water is dripping inside the a/c unit...I guess that's normal especially with a humid room. I just don't want to end up with a dead unit if I leave this thing on for too long. [00:39] slakmagik: i was thinking of just drilling a hole somewhere and have a bucket underneath that thing [00:40] BP{k}: sorry, I just felt like asking my A/C issue I'm dealing with in here :) [00:40] hm... well, it should be able to drain automatically as long as it's tilted properly - and, yeah, you'd need a bucket [00:40] xdan779 (n=daniel@64-233-207-75.static.nap.wideopenwest.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:41] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:41] BP{k}: and it's okay, since it's not in a window, anyway - it's a Linux air conditioner cuz slackmagic's gonna DIY an installation :) [00:41] manual doesn't say much about the water thing except that it wasn't installed properly (duh, I know it isn't because half of the unit isn't outside :) ) [00:41] Action: MrHales shakes his head, takes a deep breath. [00:41] Had to put frigging bacon grease on his food to get him to eat... [00:41] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] what is the default x manager? fvwm? [00:42] say you just installed X [00:42] what is the original x manager? [00:42] pirving: depends on what you install - it'd be twm with only the x stuff [00:42] there is no default [00:42] twm's old, but not the original - but I dunno what is [00:43] tvm ok cool [00:43] superGear: well, if you install everything, it does default to kde [00:43] if you pick KDE to be default [00:43] check the xwmconfig script and it shows a hierarchy [00:43] but that would be during installing of slackware [00:43] yeah, but it's the default choice in the dialog ui [00:43] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [00:44] you have a choice in the dialog and i think it lists alphabetically [00:44] fluxnuk3r (n=root@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [00:44] thats what I'd use on a low resource machine, or a server [00:44] no, like I say, it's by order of the xwmconfig script [00:44] the case statement thereof [00:44] yeah u right [00:44] ganeshix (n=ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:45] still kde still isn't default :P [00:45] pirving: what's that? twm? [00:45] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:45] on a low resource machine [00:45] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [00:45] yes [00:45] Nick change: Ether_Man_ -> Ether_Man [00:45] fluxbox be good for low res [00:46] whats the lightweight one thats popular. Yeah I like fluxbox [00:46] or lxde or iceWM or whatever [00:46] the one with a mouse [00:46] xfce [00:46] xfce [00:46] or blackbox or whatever [00:46] yeah [00:46] outside of slack, there's everything from aewm to ratpoison [00:46] I like ratpoison [00:46] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:46] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [00:46] anyone use that? [00:46] ratpoison kills tho :/ [00:47] awesome [00:47] Nick change: Ether_Man_ -> Ether_Man [00:47] I have, but I don't [00:47] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: Client Quit [00:47] never tried ratpoison [00:47] godling_ (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [00:47] it's like a gui screen :) [00:47] i use xfce 4 atm [00:47] depends how 'old' old is, but on a 166 lxde crawls, flux,icewm, blackbox,twm is the way to go. icewm least resources shown by htop fwiw [00:47] how do you guys deal with difficult people on your network? [00:47] ratpoison aint worth it [00:47] a 166mhz box [00:48] godling_: kick them off :) [00:48] ban [00:48] I just ban me. [00:48] I also tried that one that apple created [00:48] I mean: them [00:48] ice can be compiled down, too, to get it even lower if needed [00:48] jwm probably best choice tho , that's why puppy uses it. [00:49] i forget the name [00:49] I think apple created.... [00:49] os x? [00:49] fluxnuk3r: are you actually ircing as root? [00:49] the *step stuff? [00:49] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [00:49] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left ##slackware ("It's not your problem."). [00:49] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:49] afterstep [00:49] yes [00:49] isn't there an autokick for that? [00:49] godling_: on a jordana 680, logged on temp to see that it works [00:49] ircing as root is dumb [00:50] oh, must have just used to have been [00:50] thats why im leaving. lol [00:50] fluxnuk3r (n=root@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [00:50] holy crap, that's an old pda [00:50] heard of cde? [00:50] cde is older than Old_Fogie ! [00:50] LOL [00:50] yeah, xfce's original model - command desktop environment [00:50] s/command/common [00:51] fingers and brain weren't on the same page [00:55] Alrighty, then... bout to get my venerable NVidia card back on board on the desktop, do the final transfer of files from Slack dvd to the SD... [00:55] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:55] Make my boot stick... [00:55] And I *think* I'll be ready... [00:57] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:58] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [00:58] Action: spook warms up megasploit [01:00] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:00] spook: script kiddy [01:02] there is something older then Old_Fogie ? [01:02] Yes. [01:02] aceofspades19: sharks have been around for over 420 million years. [01:02] megasploit is..? [01:03] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-74-241.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:03] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-68-127.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:04] godling: I'm pretty sure Old_Fogie is twice as old as that [01:04] :p [01:07] plipp (n=cam@m90-130-192-152.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [01:10] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:10] godling_ (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:11] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [01:12] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:12] Chrysalis (n=UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) joined ##slackware. [01:13] twice as old? Old_Fogie is not from the milky way, he was born in another Galaxy, before the milky way existed [01:13] Gatto (n=hearl@host80-67-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:13] I don't think Old_Fogie is very old. [01:13] hi * [01:13] Old_Fogie, are you from Andromeda? [01:14] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:14] Old_Fogie was alive when the previous universe was still around. [01:14] Hello, Gatto [01:14] Where computers were powered by gravity and the nuclear force keeps your feet on the ground. [01:14] Old_Fogie came from Nibiru, aka Planet X! [01:14] godling, in what terms, he is clearly young if you consider that time may go on infinity yet it has only existed for some finite period [01:14] ccfreak2k: I heard rumours that he was the one who rebooted it in the first place per accident ;) [01:14] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:15] if you do that, than everything in existence can be considered young [01:15] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-145-79.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:15] tasty logic there [01:16] Action: edman007 gets pissed at elilo [01:16] Decided to come back for awhile...What's up,room? [01:16] MLanden, we are speculating on Old_Fogie's age [01:16] were you also the one with the proof that cats have 9 tails/lives ? [01:16] tank-man, don't think so... [01:16] Have y'all gone through all the rock 'n roll greats? [01:17] no cat has 8 tails, ... i forgot the rest of the proof [01:18] 1. no cat has eight tails. 2. a cat has one more tail than no cat. 3. so, a cat has nine tails. [01:18] IntangibleLiquid (n=fresco20@115.73.42.29) left irc: "Leaving" [01:19] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.80.96) left irc: "nite" [01:19] :) [01:19] bah... [01:19] almost pasted it.... [01:19] i had to read it first :/ [01:21] http://www.therapistfinder.com/ <- lol [01:21] Action: nix_chix0r trips edman007 [01:21] Action: edman007 falls [01:21] nix_chix0r, ow [01:21] If said cat loses its tail,is it no cat? [01:22] nix_chix0r, you are suppose to be bed ridden while they clear the area [01:22] Rat409 (n=Rat409@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] bed riden pfffff [01:22] MLanden, clearly cat lives are bound to their tails, they just lose one tail and one life [01:22] yeah i'm on the couch [01:22] edman007: The guy in the middle looks like Mohinder from Hero's. :P [01:22] man is it just me, or do all wives talk a lot? [01:23] agentc0re1, did you read their domain name? [01:23] lol [01:23] yada yada yada antler [01:23] antler, dunno, i'm not married [01:23] http://www.brightsurf.com/news/headlines/26739/LSD_treatment_for_alcoholism_gets_new_look.html [01:23] edman007: Ya, i did. I'm just saying what that guy looks like is all. [01:24] mist rising, lowering connectivity... [01:24] man I hate Verizon [01:24] well now someone can make elilo work [01:25] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:25] edman007: then by logic,no cat = cat with eight tails..Since no cat has eight tails....etc..etc.. [01:25] MLanden, its a first level zombie cat [01:25] zombies don't exist until you see em [01:25] Damn it...that breaks the zen..LOL [01:26] hi guys, one question, is possible change the mouse cursor, with a yx crossair framebuffer terminal ? (style ibm as400) :) [01:28] Action: antler marries nix_chix0r and edman007 [01:29] hah why [01:29] Action: edman007 stabs antler [01:29] no [01:29] Action: antler feels the stab [01:29] lol [01:30] one would think "antler" would stab, rather than be stabbed, you know? [01:30] MrHales: No, I do not. [01:30] hahaha [01:30] stab or be stabbed. what a choice. [01:31] Action: MLanden gives antler a cat to play with....zombie cats love fresh blood [01:31] I have mice in my freezer, if that'd help, antler [01:31] Action: antler takes the cat, goes to chinatown, and sells the cat for 10 bucks. [01:32] joannis (n=joannis@net-80-253-189-213.beltav.hu) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:32] Action: edman007 orders some Chinese with chicken and gets cat [01:32] Undead meat on a stick? [01:32] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:32] yummmm. catkabob [01:32] Does cat have nine tails? [01:32] LOL [01:33] MLanden: no. cat doesn't, but a cat does. [01:33] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:34] just not THE cat,only A cat...gotcha.;D [01:34] heh the alleged proof is from motd [01:34] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-113-65.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [01:35] edman007: ping [01:35] Action: antler feels the ping [01:36] How many milliseconds,antler? [01:36] cat? [01:36] that's so racist! [01:36] If he turns to starboard, we'll know he wants to talk [01:37] morning antler :) [01:37] good very late evening, pprkut :) [01:37] haha [01:37] serious late evening [01:38] Wed Feb 25 23:37:44 MST 2009 [01:38] well, that's not so late [01:38] Thu Feb 26 07:39:39 CET 2009 [01:38] pprkut: ? it's so late that it'll be morning in another 20 mins. :P [01:39] pprkut, elilo is crashing the system :( [01:39] edman007: great :( [01:39] antler: hehe [01:39] pprkut, anyways, i got elilo 3.6 to run... [01:39] pprkut, how far are you with making elilo work? [01:40] edman007: I got packages for gnu-efi and efibootmgr, elilo-3.8 wouldn't compile [01:40] i did more research and your BIOS should do a selection screen and show each install of elilo [01:40] nini [01:40] pprkut, i'll try that right now :) [01:40] plipp (n=cam@m90-130-192-152.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:41] pprkut, and elilo has the binary on sf.net [01:41] Why do girls say nini? [01:41] I have a friend whom I've known forever and she says it too. [01:42] godling, related to nix_chix0r ? [01:42] edman007: I might give it try then...in the evening [01:42] OngaKing (i=5062b254@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3b45d2ebe5be11c6) joined ##slackware. [01:42] I don't know. [01:42] Heya saludad! [01:43] feliz navidad to you too [01:44] I discovered an easter egg of sorts that included with the README of gnome-cups-manager.fsck.com had it on his blog... http://www.fsckin.com/2008/07/27/the-most-interesting-readme-file-ever/ [01:44] edman007: are you able to boot up a system, somehow? [01:45] pprkut, well its a mac over here, so the mac stuff has its own boot loader and refit, which does work...plus i can read the drive through firewire and screw with the drive as needed [01:45] oh [01:46] Action: pprkut looks at his HP....It looks to sharp to be hit....thinks of another way to vent his frustration [01:47] MLanden: haha [01:49] othermindszine (n=othermin@210.sub-70-192-68.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:49] othermindszine (n=othermin@172.sub-75-216-111.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [01:49] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:49] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:49] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [01:51] seems there's a few other sites that have "updated" the ending [01:55] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-113-65.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:57] I think the humor from the old gurus of the '70s is best. [01:58] well, 1970-1990 [01:58] after that people started eating too many paint chips [01:58] old textfiles? [01:58] that, and usenet [01:58] right [01:59] usenet freaking sucks nowadays [01:59] sexbots h4xed the servers...GIGO [02:00] MrHales (n=user@12.166.25.119) left ##slackware. [02:00] Garbage In Garbage Out...:C [02:03] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:04] Little problem with nfs. [02:05] When I mount the export on the client, the mount point shows 500 as user. [02:05] Then when I try to cd to that directory, I get "permission denied", even when I try as root. [02:07] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Konversation terminated!" [02:07] slackytude (i=10029@p4FD89ED1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:08] morning sunshine [02:08] be (n=chattr@062016133078.customer.alfanett.no) joined ##slackware. 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[02:37] yay i got keyboard shortcuts to work with my Sony Vaio and Xfce [02:40] :) [02:40] nice [02:41] yeah. sadly, xmodmap doesn't have screen brightness adjustment keysyms so i had to use zoom in / zoom out for screen brightness, but i got screen brightness up/down, volume up/down/mute, and sleep to work [02:43] although this sony XBRITE-ECO screen doesn't get good brightness granularity (i guess that's how you would say it) [02:43] at lower settings (10%, 20%) the edges don't get lit [02:43] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [02:44] edman007: in case you still read this. I have elilo-3.8 compiled, but will only be able to test it in 10 hours [02:45] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.27.8) left irc: "Leaving" [02:45] the screen brightness keys for me are bios driven and work no matter what [02:45] nice, what laptop? [02:45] D620 [02:45] even the light detector works [02:46] dell? [02:46] yeah [02:46] same here. T60 [02:46] argh. R-60. [02:47] :) [02:47] I need to order a new laptop soon [02:47] standby, hibernate, lid and power are all acpi controlled and vol+/-/mute use keysyms [02:47] any recomendations? I thinking a Thinkpad [02:48] lenovo [02:48] i've used dell laptops for years but only the business models [02:48] tewmten: get a HP and help me getting Slackware to boot on it :) [02:48] pffr [02:48] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [02:48] nullboy: arent all their laptop business models? [02:48] :O [02:48] the D series works 100% under linux and support libsmbios so you can control everything from linux [02:49] tewmten, if it's about bang for the buck, they sell the laptop i own for $623 refurbished [02:49] yeah i have a D630 at the office [02:49] Sony Vaio VGN-C140G [02:49] hm ok [02:49] well, I want something with good performance [02:49] tewmten: lenovo is nice. however i don't like their trend of making the laptop much bigger than the actual screen. [02:49] but there are many others out there that are just as good, if not better, so really it's one of those thins [02:49] er things [02:50] i wouldn't say that a laptop with a 5400 rpm drive has performance anyways, so imho get 7200 rpm or solid state even [02:50] like i want SATA, minimum 2GB ram, preferably 4GB, dual core cpu, good GFX card, like geforce or something [02:50] much less get sata300 [02:50] tewmten: and slack runs like a charm [02:50] nah 7200rpm is has to be [02:50] tewmten: is your d630 the nvidia version? [02:50] i don't personally like the nvidia or ati chipsets but only because i prefer in-kernel drivers and i don't game. ymmv [02:50] lowkyalur: how much bigger than the screen are we talking about? over 1cm border around the screen? [02:50] i have the quadro and it's up to most tasks [02:50] intel graphics work for me thus far [02:50] nullboy: yep [02:51] quadros are nice though [02:51] yeah well i want to do some gaming perhaps :) [02:51] and also i want one with like 14.1" widescreen [02:51] absolutely not above 15" [02:51] i just get lazy about compiling yet more drivers lol [02:51] thats too big [02:52] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [02:52] i would recommend YYYYx800 or higher in resolution [02:52] mainly due to some kde menus [02:52] this thing is a 14.4 @ 1440x900 [02:52] if i had one complaint about the D620 it would be the screen though [02:53] i want to gloss version [02:53] the* [02:54] tewmten: i'm keeping my D620 until dell offers a similar unit with LED screen and multitouch touchpad [02:54] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:54] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [02:56] asd2 (i=georgecj@188.24.33.44) joined ##slackware. [02:56] >D [02:56] :D [02:56] tewmten: i would say so. have a look: http://www.ip-web.de/ThinkPad/T400/thinkpad_T400.jpg [02:56] yeah this dell I have is not mine, its the office\s [02:56] lowkyalur: yes i have been looking at the t400 [02:57] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-328033.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:57] tewmten: this reminds me of the good old 10kg laptop with 7" amber screen times [02:57] lol [02:58] >D [02:58] hello [02:58] this looks neato, http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/223189/lenovo-thinkpad-t400-2765-22g.html#tab:info [02:58] 2.1KG is like my current laptop, so thats no problem [02:58] only thing is, that one have 5400rpm disk [02:58] widescreen is nice sometimes, however i just see it as a measure to sell us the same laptop same price with less screen estate less manufacturing costs more earnings [02:58] Agiofws \o/ [02:59] U-Neeks (n=666@200-96-137-197.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [02:59] hm and its just above 1000 euros [02:59] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:00] with lenovo you get a lot for your money (and no i'm no lenovo salesman) ... hp business lappies are nice too i think. though they may be tricky with linux i hear? [03:01] The-spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:02] knnk (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-116-30-178.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:02] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [03:03] asd2 (i=georgecj@188.24.33.44) left irc: [03:03] zaibach333 (n=zaibach3@75-168-121-124.mpls.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [03:03] knnk (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-116-30-178.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:03] hello [03:04] hi [03:04] I just installed vector linux v6 on a virtualbox and on the first boot it asks to configure xorg. and I selected full auto no questions. but when I boot it doesnt get to a gui and gives me an error [03:04] knnk (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-116-30-178.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:05] says xorg wont run [03:05] how do you select full auto? i wish mine had that option [03:06] it was the second option [03:06] the second option? for what program? [03:06] but I still have a console by pressing alt-f3 [03:07] I dont know what program. it was part of installation with vector linux [03:07] log in as root and run "xorgsetup" [03:07] full-auto has given me problems too before. Try the one above that [03:07] the regular auto [03:07] that always works [03:07] woah xorgsetup. I've been searching for something like this for hours on VL channel [03:09] tell them i said they suck :D [03:10] aww there was like 16 people on. it was me and one guy [03:10] lol [03:10] ancient chinese proverb: the student cannot be greater than the teacher (vector cannot be greater than slackware) :D [03:10] well you could also use google you know .... [03:10] btw, how different are they? vl and slack [03:10] not to be rude, but traditionally irc channels are for asking questions after using google and other resources that are available [03:11] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:11] have you read the vector linux handbook? [03:11] qwaza, no clue [03:12] TwinReverb, zenwalk atleast makes it clear it is not slackware anymore. VL info is difficult to come by or i didn't look enough [03:12] yes I think I will order this Lenovo T400 next week [03:12] qwaza: I haven't tried vector in years, but it was more gui-admin oriented, had a different and smaller package list, and felt kinda clunky somehow. It's targeted at older boxes, but slack does pretty well on those to begin with [03:13] yes, thats why i have permanently moved to slack [03:13] m-ake (n=make@cable-roi-fffadd00-139.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [03:15] yeah i stay with slackware because no matter what distribution i use, it's not slackware. somehow i just have to use slackware. it's almost like an obsession [03:15] And so simple. I use OpenBSD too. So the unix-like env is great for me [03:16] I havent used slackware in a few years.. I installed it again a few weeks ago, here at the office [03:16] nice to see that its all the same :D [03:16] much better [03:16] installer works the same [03:16] i like the nogui approach. i like to know what is going on. [03:16] everything is just.. like home =) [03:16] brb more coffee [03:16] omzine (n=othermin@120.sub-70-192-217.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:16] tewmten: good idea. and a ciggy [03:17] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:17] TwinReverb: yep, exactly. [03:17] m-ake (n=make@cable-roi-fffadd00-139.dhcp.inet.fi) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [03:17] lowkyalur: cant have one without the other! [03:17] ironically i've found that slackware is much more elegant and efficient, and works better because you learn something in the process, and because what you learn works on almost all other distributions [03:19] sorta [03:19] TwinReverb: But still there are distros like Debian with their 'philospihies' where it's alien world again [03:19] except that the init is layed out differently from most other distros [03:19] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.181.27.168) joined ##slackware. [03:19] Well atleast a little alien [03:19] true [03:19] skatar (n=lupin@host79-175-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:20] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-240-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [03:20] imagine a world with one single linux distro [03:20] a common base [03:20] qwaza: horrible [03:20] why [03:21] look at the advantages [03:21] because it would be red hat, probably [03:21] I'm all for a unified tree and init script structure [03:21] nope. I mean slack [03:21] say, thanks for helping my xorg. but now that its loaded my virtualbox is taking up the whole screen, how do I change the size of the screen (gnome) [03:21] you would have all those ubuntu people give us 'works like microsoft' [03:21] yeah, or ubuntu :( [03:22] no way! I come from OpenBSD world, so I know quality [03:22] incorrect, I want to modify my text files, would just be nice for them to always be in the same place [03:22] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-179-64.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:22] qwaza: there is a significant difference between you-and-me-an-all-here and the mainstream requirements [03:23] zaibach333: have you installed guest additions? [03:24] lowkyalur: I am an admin by profession. So dealing with various distros daily. That is why I feel something simple like slack should be there. Anyway, pandora's box is openned already. Too late now! [03:24] one2three (n=one2thre@76.227.81.16) joined ##slackware. [03:24] was just daydreaming [03:25] qwaza: & | /dev/hell (aka fork to hell) [03:25] I'm saying the same thing, I just hate working on other distros after coming from slack [03:25] so we need to conquer the others [03:25] othermindszine (n=othermin@120.sub-70-192-217.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [03:25] even though I'm on debian now [03:25] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:26] knnk: let's burn them ... onto blueray disks so we have enough space for 'sample desktop backgrounds' [03:26] In the end, there will be clarity. At the end of the tunnel, there will be light (still daydreaming) [03:26] well, I like the split - even if Slackware was the only distro, then all these people who turn things into Windows and Ubuntu and Red Hat would try to go to work on Slack. [03:26] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:26] at least only Slackers use Slack, if you know what I mean [03:28] heh arch is nice... [03:29] MegafEee (n=WMaker@unaffiliated/megaf) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:30] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:32] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [03:32] maybe that didn't make sense - I'm just saying that, with choices, no one has to pressure a distro into being something it's not - they can just use whatever it is that suits them [03:36] http://www.wimp.com/melgibson/ [03:36] thought I'd share this [03:36] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-240-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:36] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-240-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [03:37] Nick change: Mess[i]ah -> Emess [03:37] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [03:39] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [03:41] Gargantua: that's hilarious! 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[03:59] hi, dunno if this is the right channel to ask, but i use wine with the multiple virtual desktops, but when i close one desktop, all the others close too [04:01] othermindszine (n=othermin@120.sub-70-192-217.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:01] othermindszine (n=othermin@120.sub-70-192-217.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [04:02] #wine [04:02] #wine [04:02] #whine [04:02] y0 spook [04:02] hah [04:02] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [04:02] slackytude: 'sup [04:03] not much, working [04:03] you? [04:03] client drilled a hole in a cabinet, into the middle of a switch on the otherside [04:03] heh [04:03] funny [04:03] not to mention covering everything inside the cabinet with wood dust [04:03] dadexter1laptop (n=martin@modemcable229.25-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:03] expensive drill [04:04] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:04] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:05] not really funny [04:05] they drilled the hole because they are convinced it is too hot inside [04:05] O_o [04:05] fucking cowboys [04:06] that is funny [04:06] it isn't. [04:06] duh, i drilled a hole in a switch [04:06] #wine = invite only oO [04:07] duh, i'm going to ring spook because its not working anymore, but i'm not going to say anything about drilling a hole [04:07] okay now [04:07] taub: #whine [04:07] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:08] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [04:08] they were trying to hide the fact that they drilled a hole into the switch? [04:09] lmao [04:09] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:11] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [04:11] slackytude: not so much hide. [04:17] hey [04:17] anyone here ever used this groundwork monitoring suite_ [04:17] pretty cool stuff, it ties together nagios and some other tools [04:17] easy to use :) [04:19] I tried [04:19] it really didnt float my boat [04:19] i'm MUCH happier with pure nagios and other tools [04:19] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [04:20] yeah? [04:20] the ajax *looks* cool, and the options *seem* to provide good functionality.. but it's all a lot more form than function [04:20] hm I dont know, I just started it up like 10 minutes ago [04:20] playing around with it [04:21] If I may provide a subjective comparison... [04:21] GWMOS is to Nagios(+other tools) as RHEL/Ubuntu is to Slackware [04:21] because currently we have only nagios, I need some tools to make it easy to manage it and it's hell when doing some reconfiguring [04:22] ok [04:22] yeah Im not sure if I will keep this [04:22] tewmten: it will be even more hell when it screws your config :) [04:22] >D [04:22] :D [04:22] yeah Im not gonna implement this on my current nagios [04:22] I will just put up a new server to run the new monitoring [04:22] im not saying it's bad per se... but IMPO separate manually configured tools are the better way to go [04:23] the current monitor server is a P3 with 1GHz clockspeed >D [04:23] :D [04:23] and 1GB ram [04:23] a weee bit too little [04:24] because we keep getting false criticals due to being low on resources or something [04:24] *nod* [04:24] which is not good [04:24] I want to keep the noise levels low, obviously [04:24] if you're not changing the HW gwmos would be mecha-fail obviously [04:27] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:28] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:28] no the hardware is getting changed [04:29] I got a DELL PE1950 that's going to replace the current system [04:30] which got a Xeon 2GHz dual core and 4GB RAM =) [04:30] bit better [04:30] *nod* [04:31] alice_c (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:31] btw.. consider: the harder it seems to be to configure to others.. the safer your job is ;) [04:32] knnk (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-116-30-178.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:36] Anakin (i=1000@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. 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[04:46] Zordrak: yeah but there's to many hosts to manage, i need some tool so i can get a good overview [04:50] is there a package for nagios? [04:50] for slackware? [04:50] not that I know of.. [04:50] (just learned about that tool from the conversation :) ) [04:50] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:50] so people usually build it from source, right? [04:53] slava_dp: i build from source into my own package and then install that package [04:54] zaibach333 (n=zaibach3@75-168-121-124.mpls.qwest.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:55] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:55] hm.. [04:56] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:56] yeah I dunno 'bout groundwork :P [04:58] bacchist (n=bacchist@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:58] where the hell is the documentation [04:58] heh [04:58] nagios is easy to built from source [04:59] 09:46:09 < tewmten> Zordrak: yeah but there's to many hosts to manage, i need some tool so i can get a good overview [04:59] tewmten: NagVis? [04:59] i'm going to have to try installing slackware without any blank cds [05:00] i guess i'm going to have to download the dvd iso and either extract it to a hdd partition or a flash drive, and try to get it to boot [05:00] Zordrak: nagvis has functions to update hostgroups and add custom check commands, etc? [05:01] has anyone tried this, or is there a better solution/ [05:01] You said overview not OverManage :) [05:01] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [05:01] tewmten: If it's too difficult to manage, perhaps you need to do some gonfig abstraction [05:02] yeah i meant overview of the configuration or something [05:02] ..... nagios has a p.age for that [05:02] also it would be nice to have a plugin so i can, from within nagios, deploy new servers [05:02] but not editable [05:02] like setup and install virtual servers [05:02] and also if it catches a critical, host is down, whatnot [05:02] deply new server, move the load over there [05:03] something like that [05:03] make templates in nagios [05:03] the response actions are doable inside notifications [05:03] intressting [05:04] this seems like a good place to start, otherwise.. http://www.ducea.com/2008/01/16/10-nagios-web-frontends/ [05:04] bah [05:05] what? :D [05:05] i got like 120 hosts to manage and monitor [05:05] vi and a conf is all anyone ever neede! [05:05] pfft.. [05:05] who hasnt? [05:06] dunno [05:07] i have a ton of hosts.. many services per host and it sends me an SMS whenever anything's wrong [05:07] all neatly maintained in a few config files, all adjusted using vi/vim/elvis [05:08] ok cool [05:08] On the public webserver alone there are 12 service checks [05:09] do you add new hosts often? [05:09] pprkut (n=hwiesing@a82-93-111-145.adsl.xs4all.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:09] honestly I would reccomend seeing if you can simplify your config by abstracting common data [05:09] Ether_Man (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [05:09] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h223n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:09] bacchist (n=bacchist@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [05:09] couple a month usually [05:09] ok [05:09] bacchist (n=bacchist@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:10] yeah i need to set this up from scratch and see how do to it in a good way [05:10] *nod* [05:10] me 2 [05:10] nagios doesnt really monitor configurations of systems, right? [05:11] like make sure all configs are good [05:11] tracking changes? [05:11] i just wish id gotten around to hooking the SMS mobile up by cable.... its on bluetooth at the mo [05:11] hehe [05:11] If you want it to [05:11] yeah Ive played a bit with puppet for that [05:11] oh well [05:11] nagios will monitor *ANYTHING* you have a check script for [05:11] ciggie break [05:12] even checking if your dog is in bed [05:12] that's a good check [05:12] [ in bed ] [05:12] especially since i dont have a dog [05:12] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:12] :D [05:12] bbl [05:13] qwaza (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [05:17] [[ -animal dog ]] ? 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[05:26] err [05:26] Action: slackytude hides [05:26] Linux vinyamar 2.6.27.7-smp #2 SMP Thu Nov 20 22:32:43 CST 2008 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9300 @ 2.50GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [05:27] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc3-asht4-0-0-cust917.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:27] 1. Get off the huge [05:27] 2. Check for hib support [05:27] 3. consider 2.6.28 [05:28] What's wrong with the huge? I don't mind wasting 20MB of memory, and afaik there's not more than that to be saved, and no other reason [05:30] qwaza (n=dexter@gateway.geodesic.com) joined ##slackware. [05:30] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [05:30] how could I check hib support? [05:31] i typically save about 60% of active ram when i move from default slack to custom w/custom kernel [05:31] :o [05:31] copy your live config to /usr/src/linux/.config [05:31] `make oldconfig` [05:31] `make menuconfig` [05:32] `/hib` [05:32] I've two gigs, I doubt I'd save more than 1 GB :) [05:32] Aldaron: zcat /proc/config.gz /your/desination/ [05:33] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:33] frullet: thanks :) [05:33] Action: The-Croupier waves [05:34] CONFIG_HIBERNATION=y, so I suppose it's there [05:35] CONFIG_PM_STD_PARTITION="\"\"" though, maybe linux doesn't know where to write my memory? [05:36] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:37] has anyone had success getting pulseaudio to work in slackware? [05:38] ah, stupid me (and stupid-ish kernel too): maybe it fails because I have no swap.. ;) [05:39] D'Oh [05:40] A human-readable error output would really be proper here [05:46] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [05:53] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [05:57] ..and apparently a swap file isn't good enough. [05:58] Does the old thumbrule of twice the RAM = swap size hold anymore? [05:58] j0z (n=JESUS@189.73.8.106) joined ##slackware. [05:58] qwaza: depends on what you do. my slack never swaps... [05:59] I was doing fine with 2GB ram and 0 swap this far [05:59] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:59] Me too. but then, in the rare circumstances when your machine is unattended... [05:59] But yeah, swap = 1.5x ram seems to be a good idea [05:59] And some software goes berserk, [06:00] then swap will not help either. [06:00] you are right [06:00] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:00] So is there any use of a large swap at all? [06:01] sure. if you need more ram than you have. [06:01] On a regular basis? Performance will suck [06:01] you could also buy more ram ;). [06:01] like video editing, running several vms, and so on [06:02] a friend of mine had a memory leak on his server back in 99. it would only leak like 1MB/day. so his solutoin in deed was "more ram" [06:02] ! [06:02] caixabox_ (n=elcio@caixabox.broker.freenet6.net) joined ##slackware. [06:02] well, that might very well be the cheapest option :) [06:02] yes [06:03] (compared to hiring somebody to fix the software or spending a week at it oneself) [06:04] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [06:04] or bin kde to get more ram:) [06:04] ew, kde [06:05] shhh, i woke up the nokde fraction [06:05] . o O ( or was that a bot saying "ew" every time somebody mentions kde ? ) [06:05] kde [06:05] just out of interest how would you detect a memory leak? [06:06] no new processes over time, but mem usage keeps incresaing on aprocess [06:06] a process running without significant change, and using more and more memory. imagine an idle xterm or something similar. [06:07] but then you need to log, to detect it over time [06:07] yep. usually on unattended systems you notice it because it goes belly up at 'no ram left' [06:08] what causes memory leaks, not freeing memory when your supposed to? [06:08] well, if an idle xterm used >100M, I'd suspect a memory leak :) [06:08] yes, bad coding [06:08] no garbage collection [06:08] heh [06:09] can scripting languages have memory leaks? [06:09] like perl [06:09] if you want them to [06:09] sure. most 'new' languages however claim and advertise to have automatic garbage collection. however that can fail too. [06:11] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [06:15] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:15] taub_ (n=taub@ip-90-187-193-21.web.vodafone.de) joined ##slackware. [06:18] Though it's really damn annoying trying to work out if a program that uses caches leaks, or, where it's leaking :p [06:18] (yay for valgrind) [06:19] oh, memory leaks [06:20] that takes me back [06:20] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-240-206.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [06:20] one of my first game written in C with DirectX 6 or sumething [06:20] horrible, leaking, crashing beat it was [06:20] s/beat/beast [06:22] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:23] null pointer referencing FTW [06:23] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@ccv59.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [06:23] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@ccv59.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Connection reset by peer [06:28] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:28] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. 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[06:40] hello, how can i have write access to NTFS partition after i mounted it? i have mounted my NTFS partition with this command : "mount -t ntfs -o rw,users /dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows" [06:41] i can read the mounted drive but i dont have write access [06:41] hi SaEeDIRHA, I believe you need ntfs-3g for write supprt [06:42] I believe ntfs-3g is in slackware 12.2. What version do you have, SaEeDIRHA? [06:42] 12.2 [06:42] the latest one [06:43] mount -t ntfs-3g [06:43] good [06:43] sorted :) [06:43] thankx [06:44] One thing that comes to my mind is that ntfs-partitions that are not "clean" may be refused rw access in linux. .. but you get a message about that on startup if that happens [06:47] i have write access now [06:48] but it many websites i have seen that it is not recommended to use mount NTFS partitions in linux [06:48] why is that ? [06:50] Afaik because Micro$oft isn't telling the details on ntfs, so the ntfs drivers are based on guesswork and trial-and-error [06:50] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [06:50] _kyori2 (n=kyori@79-66-179-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [06:51] ntfs-3g claims to be stable and safe though [06:51] Nick change: _kyori2 -> _kyori [06:54] <_kyori> hey guys if I'm creating a linux partition to put slackware on should I make it ext2 or ext3? [06:54] SaEeDIRHA, write with ntfs-3g is safe, write with what could be called ntfs-2g (what's available in the kernel iirc) isn't [06:54] why only ext* ? [06:55] <_kyori> well there's a linux swap one [06:55] _kyori: ext3 is the better choice of the two (unless you have an eeepc with an SSD drive: then go with ext2) [06:55] <_kyori> alright thanks Aldaron =] [06:56] Aldaron: no [06:56] _kyori: use ext3. [06:56] ext3 is also a good choice overall. reiserfs or some others are good too, but I see no special reason to choose any of those (unless maybe you know your harddisk usage pattern very well and need optimal performance) [06:56] Aldaron: please stop spreading fud. [06:57] SaEeDIRHA (n=saeed@78-105-115-225.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [06:58] spook: where in the above do I spread fear, uncertainty or doubt? ;) [06:58] tntslack (n=will@adsl51-84.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:59] evo- (n=evo@p4FD4E90D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:59] The reason I said ext2 for SSD is that I've read SSDs have somewhat more limited durability than hard disks, especially when it comes to constant writing to the same part of the disk, and afaik writing the journal is exactly that [07:00] that's based on what I read online though. I'm not a hard-drive scientist or anything [07:01] modern ssds have write leveling. [07:01] (even my usb flash drive does) [07:01] _kyori (n=kyori@79-66-179-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: [07:02] slava_dp: I'm aware of that, but I think that most eeepcs people actually have right now don't have such modern ssds? [07:02] and i would opt for reiserfs for / and /home and xfs for storage partitions. mostly never use ext* these days. [07:03] we should all use btrfs on ssd anyway >< [07:03] brb [07:03] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [07:04] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:05] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:07] fAu (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [07:07] Srbo (i=1000@p4FE91011.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:08] Camarade_Tux, what's btrfs exactly about? [07:16] spook: but seriously, if you think I'm misinformed on some points, do tell :). [07:16] jaskorpe (i=jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) left irc: "Lost" [07:17] neuro_sys (n=dsl@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) joined ##slackware. [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-68-127.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-75-211.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:17] jaskorpe (i=jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) joined ##slackware. [07:18] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [07:19] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.20.63.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:20] hey guys, you say that if we use on ssd reisefers, there will no problem with interrupts and any other problem that have thous ssd cards? [07:22] i use reiserfs on ssd. [07:22] have any problems with interrupts ? [07:22] on r/w [07:24] that ssd was bindled with offtopic originally, which used ntfs. i put linux and reiserfs on it. not a single trouble. [07:25] i heart that, on windows platform, the ssd when is righting, it stuck, freezing you computer and so... [07:25] check if your ssd supports write leveling. manufacturer has to say so on the website. if it doesn't then your ssd will be short-lived. [07:25] with model you got? [07:25] can't remember now. it's in a wall-mounted panel. [07:26] bittin_ (i=bittin@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-7f4c4dcc74cf4cd4) joined ##slackware. [07:27] cause there are 4 models are good, the 3 of them are, samsung, ocz v2, intel and one more [07:27] kama (n=kama@host50-118-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:28] kama (n=kama@host50-118-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:28] well intel sure supports leveling. but *check the specs on the website* [07:29] ok when i will be ready to buy one, will check it. thanks for the info btw [07:31] http://www.eworldsale.com/transcend-ts32gssd25s-m-32gb-25-inch-sata-solid-state-disk_8529_25852.html [07:31] check it if you have time slava_dp [07:33] tntslack, why, it's there in the specs. "Built-in ECC (Error Correction Code) functionality and wear-leveling algorithm ensures highly reliable of data transfer". you could have found that yourself ;) [07:34] bacchist (n=bacchist@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [07:34] oo ok then :) will look for that :) [07:34] thanks! [07:37] well i found it :) [07:37] 58 euro TRANSCEND TS32GSSD25S-M 32gb 2.5 inch SATA solid state disk (SSD) (mlc chip) [07:38] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs_@189.27.20.63.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [07:39] jiraia (n=jiraia@mail.nxt.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:40] neuro_sys (n=dsl@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:43] bacchist (n=bacchist@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:45] am i reading this correctly, that it is not possible to include the software packages on the usb drive when you use the usb stick installation method? [07:48] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:51] bacchist: the usbboot.img file is exclusively to boot the installer. Packages must be available on your network, local disk partition or DVD [07:51] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[09:10] alienBOB: even as root i get an alarming number of errors [09:12] http://pastebin.com/m46b02e69 [09:12] i'm not sure if that's normal or not [09:13] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:14] firefox eats up so much ram. left running for a couple of days (hibernating my laptop but not closing FF) it was like 300M.... just reloaded it [09:16] yeah i dont get that [09:16] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:16] "firefox eats up so much ram" <--- try running epiphany on some gnome, you'll see an FF3 engine that's fast as heck. I just dont get it what's in FF3 that is so bloated (on linux especially winxp not so bad), I'll never know. [09:16] i leave one up monitoring a nagios page.. after a day or so it barely responds [09:16] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [09:17] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:17] Action: slava_dp doesn't like gnome [09:17] that's not my point [09:17] my point is, epiphany uses ff3 code, and it's not bloated or a ram hog at *all*. [09:18] Old_Fogie: Just curious, which version of Gnome for Slackware do you prefer? [09:18] hitest, I recommend 2.22.3 [09:18] ah, ty:) [09:19] hitest, reason being is, over that needs a very new glib2 and gtk+2 which have so many changes in their api/abi that alot of software FTBFS without patches (that are not official mind you) that it makes it useless to run imho at this time. [09:21] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [09:21] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:22] bacchist: what shell do you run? Something else than bash? [09:22] it's bash [09:23] sberla54_ (n=sberla54@62-101-126-235.ip.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [09:23] bacchist: running Slackware? What version? [09:24] not running slackware, no [09:24] running mint atm [09:24] fail [09:24] :D [09:24] #mint [09:24] trying to install slack, but i don't have any media to write to [09:24] hahah, go figure mint not having a working bash :) [09:25] too busy making wallpapers I guess [09:25] ahmed-tux1 (n=rhapsody@adsl196-69-79-217-196.adsl196-11.iam.net.ma) joined ##slackware. [09:25] What is your /bin/sh linking to bacchist? Is it bash, or another shell? [09:25] man, I just spent an hour trying to find the reason for a freak entry in customer database only to find out that I did it myself for testing purposes a week ago or so [09:25] epic fail [09:25] Old_Fogie: LOL [09:25] dash [09:25] wtf [09:25] slackytude: we won't tell your boss [09:26] Action: Old_Fogie is a Slackware zealot, I know I should be nice and play with other gnu's friendly ...NOT! :) [09:26] alienBOB, well, thx, but actually, it was him who found it >-< [09:26] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@adsl196-153-73-217-196.adsl196-11.iam.net.ma) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:26] Then edit the first script line and make it #!/bin/bash or whereveer your bash binary is [09:26] mib_dch50ppn (i=79786a20@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e56491721f0bdc7a) joined ##slackware. [09:26] slackytude: HEHEH. Those are what we call, "keeping your self in business, editions" :D [09:26] heh [09:26] hi [09:26] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [09:26] could have been worse, could have been something in the application [09:27] peace ahmed-tux1 [09:27] alienBOB, do you have rsync for your repo at all? [09:27] mib_dch50ppn (i=79786a20@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e56491721f0bdc7a) left ##slackware. [09:27] Nick change: ahmed-tux1 -> ahmed-tux [09:27] slackytude: pean , how are you ? [09:27] Old_Fogie: my mirror site has rsync available [09:27] peace [09:27] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.139) joined ##slackware. [09:27] alienBOB, 'mirror site' ? [09:28] drmanhattan (n=drmanhat@189-68-128-244.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:28] ahmed-tux, Im fine. still at work. doing some nice little projects [09:28] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: SendQ exceeded [09:28] ahmed-tux, how about you [09:28] Old_Fogie: rsync://slackware.org.uk/people/alien/ [09:28] oh goody :) thanks alienBOB [09:29] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:29] slackytude: i'm at home now relaxing and chating [09:29] blackhat (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [09:30] drmanhattan (n=drmanhat@189-68-128-244.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [09:30] slackytude: and looking my slacky like usualy [09:30] the result appears to be much the same [09:31] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:31] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [09:31] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [09:31] ahmed-tux, sounds... relaxin [09:31] I think I remeber that one [09:32] slackytude: after a hard week i'm relaxing now and i'll prepar my self for monday [09:33] work? or school? [09:33] what is the name of the python PDF module for slackware ? [09:33] slackytude: both [09:34] eh, not much relaxing then [09:35] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:35] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-70-234-161-230.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:35] Ruthven (n=mbutler@adsl-70-234-161-230.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:36] linux mint is ubuntu not slackware. [09:36] slackytude: yeah not much , and 5 min really it's like gold for me [09:36] well, it says that it created the image, so i am going to hope for the best [09:36] still showed a bunch of errors, though :-/ [09:36] oh sorry i missed that you are trying to actually install slack [09:37] There should be no errors. If you saw several, then that is not a good sign [09:37] i can pastebin the entire output [09:38] http://pastebin.com/m38ace03e [09:39] It failed again [09:40] It is only tested on a Slackware machine, and I give no guarantees that it will produce anything useful on non-Slackware machines [09:42] :-/ [09:44] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:44] bono (i=bono@220-136-225-16.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:46] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [09:46] alienBOB: care to take a guess at what's screwing it up? [09:47] Your bash is not compatible [09:47] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) left irc: "Quitte" [09:47] your pastebin shows complaints about bash built-ins that do not work for you [09:47] right, like let [09:47] Yes [09:49] You can try changing all the let XXXX to: ((XXXX)) [09:50] Action: f3ck4r is away: out for awhile [09:51] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:51] rizitis2 (n=rizitis2@athedsl-4565190.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:53] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:53] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [09:54] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.21.177) joined ##slackware. [09:54] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:54] hi everybody [09:54] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:55] i would like to know how to configure my system or which package to install in order to have my remote controller for my laptop works ? [09:55] and the multimedia buttons too [09:55] thanks in advance [09:56] which laptop? [09:56] actually, i have an hp pavillon dv6000 with mutmedia buttons and remote controller [09:57] i 've already taken a look to "lirc", but i still don't get what i need [09:58] http://wiki.freaks-unidos.net/hardware/laptops/dv6000 [09:58] with a slamd64 install [09:58] that should be close enough [09:58] i'm not using slamd64 [09:59] Soovija (n=Soovija@r22fw1.campusnet.ee) joined ##slackware. [09:59] hello [10:00] !log [10:00] paissad, http://tinyurl.com/c52mpq [10:01] !query slackboy Hello [10:01] ups [10:02] slackboy, i did it first and i saw about lirc possibility, but knowing that it did not work, i asked for another solution that someone may already found :-) [10:02] slackytude, eveybody can use google :) [10:02] not so hard [10:03] you'd be suprised [10:03] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:04] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [10:04] Ok people, my question is simple: I saw a blog and you use Logbot here like I, but to be honest, I cant make output dir even if I have chmod 777, Maybe somebody knows the problem ... maybe its due to the fact that my hosting doesnt support anonymos upload [10:05] paissad, In the link I gave you, multimedia keys are described [10:06] jjholt (n=a@72.240.46.138) joined ##slackware. [10:06] paissad, as is the IR stuff [10:07] bono (i=bono@118-160-175-170.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [10:07] slackytude, i 've read it, but the remote control does not work, even if i test only the ok buttow which suppose to match the ENTER key button of the keybord [10:07] i get no result [10:08] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-328033.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:08] then I can't help you [10:09] Nick change: jay_ -> jdetring [10:09] slackytude, don't worry, i hope i will find the solution, knowing that there's a solution, thanks for all :-) [10:09] jjholt (n=a@72.240.46.138) left irc: Client Quit [10:10] nobody can help me ? [10:11] alienBOB: that solved the let problem, but it still failed [10:11] Soovija, is your problem even remotly slackware related? [10:12] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [10:13] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-415693.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:14] no but I know you are using LogBot here [10:14] atleast you were...some months ago, I read that from blog [10:14] who is 'you' ? [10:14] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-dc91deec52f80e5e) joined ##slackware. [10:16] the owner I suppose [10:16] >-< [10:16] Soovija: what "blog" would that be? [10:16] http://willysr.blogspot.com/2009/01/logbot.html [10:17] Soovija: Obviously you can't read. [10:17] Yea i read it myself and understood that you were using similar... [10:17] Action: slackytude smells a noobfarm entry [10:18] All it says is that ##slackware has a logging bot..and someone wanted one, so they found LogBot and they use it [10:18] thats it [10:18] Soovija: you are lacking, what in the real world, would be called $clue. Now move along. [10:18] RaeGrepus (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] jea ok, I saw that now myself..but did the log file went to http somewhere ? [10:19] who cares [10:19] ok fine, got my answers, i was in a hurry [10:19] that is beyond the scope of this channel. And not at all slackware related. [10:19] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE7D9F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:19] We do public logs..check the topic .As for logbot..no idea. Ask in #logbot [10:19] thx [10:19] Soovija (n=Soovija@r22fw1.campusnet.ee) left ##slackware. [10:20] man [10:20] that made my head hurt [10:22] Afaic we use eggdrop here [10:22] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:22] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-415693.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:23] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-415693.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:23] HAL evdev delays X start for 15 seconds while trying to recognize ImPS/2 mouse; anyone found the fix? [10:26] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. 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[10:46] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:47] Does anybody know were can I find PYpdf , I install Pdfshuffler but it does not work because system needs PYpdf [10:47] rizitis2: did you actually google it? [10:47] yes [10:47] for hours [10:47] http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=pypdf&meta=&btnG=Google+Search [10:48] FIRST result. [10:48] <_kyori> xD [10:48] Action: BP{k} smells bullshit [10:49] BP{k}, thanks I hope that I am not the one who smells [10:49] You are [10:49] Well, I hate to point this out to you. You are. [10:50] nice , I have to go to bathroom then! [10:50] jiraia (n=jiraia@mail.nxt.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:50] jiraia (n=jiraia@189.27.65.193.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[10:57] Camarade_Tux, that would be very needed [10:57] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:59] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:59] hopefully we should see a quite stable btrfs in about one year (personal estimate) [11:00] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "leaving for home" [11:00] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:02] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actb52.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:02] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actb52.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:04] plipp (n=cam@m83-188-220-13.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. 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[11:53] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actb52.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [11:53] Are there any other serial console proframs for Slackware besides minicom and tip? [11:54] programs rather [11:55] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:443) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:56] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:443) joined ##slackware. [11:56] she_dyed (n=jazz@adsl-10-91-127.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [11:56] greetings slackerz [11:56] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-179-64.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:57] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:57] greetins she_dyed [11:57] you must hear that all the time [11:57] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [11:58] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:58] am using slack from runt (off a USB stick) so its miniminimalist (no x) [11:59] SiegeX_iPh (n=SiegeX@c-67-169-127-118.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:00] until i figure out how to put it (or any flavor linux) on my hdd which is totally blank right now [12:01] suggest any text mode partition tools? looks like I have to brush up on fdisk [12:01] cfdisk? [12:01] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:01] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-118-252.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [12:01] let me see if it came with this [12:02] yes! i knew there was something more, thanks BP{k} [12:03] Action: she_dyed reads the manual [12:03] zerox0 (n=zeroXzer@61.17.21.177) joined ##slackware. [12:04] SiegeX_iPh (n=SiegeX@c-67-169-127-118.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:04] any of you guys use vt with a background jpeg, maybe something like splash or another fb tool [12:04] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.21.177) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:05] helps me remember which ones are root sessions [12:05] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:05] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.139) left irc: "Leaving." 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[12:40] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:443) left irc: No route to host [12:40] hrad (n=hrad___@84.19.44.148) joined ##slackware. [12:41] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:2f) joined ##slackware. [12:41] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [12:43] whut_ (n=whut@95.132.247.166) joined ##slackware. [12:43] Can't mount my cdrom using "sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide" - get an error message "mount: /dev/scd0: can't read superblock" - what options shall I try, what can be causing this? As far as I know, the disk was recorder on a Windows machine. [12:45] is /dev/scd0 a valid device, do you have permission to access it and is there a disc inside? [12:45] jiraia_ (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:51f) joined ##slackware. [12:46] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:2f) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:46] Nick change: jiraia_ -> jiraia [12:47] but... isnt the naming /dev/sr0 now? [12:49] Ether_Man (n=polx@h218n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:49] pprkut, pong [12:50] edman007: hey, how is it going? [12:50] Action: PeanutHorst pings nix_chix0r [12:50] good [12:50] whut_: try the option -t iso9660 :) [12:50] PeanutHorst, are you trying to make people sick? [12:51] edman007: no, why? [12:51] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [12:51] no pinging [12:51] edman007: good to hear :) [12:51] you make peanut butter... [12:51] edman007: sod off. ;) [12:51] nix_chix0r, so you hate being pinged? [12:52] Action: edman007 pokes nix_chix0r [12:52] yes [12:52] edman007: don't fsck with nix_chix0r, she's a formidable opponent [12:52] nix_chix0r, well i'm sorry [12:52] PeanutHorst: The same. =( [12:52] whut_: -t udf [12:52] nix_chix0r, i'll try not to ping you [12:52] hey, I've got interesting problems with rc.inet1 + rc.inet1.conf, cause the inet1 script runs iwconfig to set all the wifi parameter in a really interesting way, ie. twice time sets essid, iwconfig wlan0 key **********, no channel is set ... [12:52] it's a long shot, but might work it [12:52] drmanhattan (n=y@189-68-142-142.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:53] PeanutHorst: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, [12:53] then it is iso9660 [12:53] but the conf seems set really properly [12:53] pprkut, did you try the binary releases of elilo? [12:53] knnk (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-116-30-178.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:53] i have no idea then' [12:53] sorry man [12:54] edman007: no, I got 2.8 to compile from source, so that's what I will try [12:54] she_dyed (n=jazz@adsl-10-91-127.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Grab life by the BitchX" [12:54] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-dc91deec52f80e5e) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:54] is it ok to set wlan_key="s:blablabla" if it is an asci [12:54] pprkut, 3.6, 3.7, and 3.8 are all available precompiled, did you try any of those? [12:55] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-a457f51f218a21fb) joined ##slackware. [12:55] PeanutHorst: But... why wouldn't it mount it? [12:55] edman007: no, I just came home from work half an hour ago [12:55] whut_: i'd say your disc is fscked [12:55] Action: edman007 just got out of bed [12:55] hehe [12:55] =( [12:56] nahmin (i=okkkk@210-10-MZA-enternet.titannet.ro) joined ##slackware. [12:56] hello [12:56] drmanhattan (n=y@189-68-142-142.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [12:56] edman007: from what I read I will need a kernel supporting efi to install elilo, which is what I am currently working on [12:58] yea, you just check the box and recompile [12:59] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:59] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:00] edman007: a bit more complicated I guess, as the only kernel I can boot is the one from the install dvd [13:00] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:00] Nick change: Strykar_ -> Strykar [13:00] jazz (n=jazz@adsl-10-91-127.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [13:00] whut_ (n=whut@95.132.247.166) left irc: [13:02] RaeGrepus (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [13:03] stunix (i=1000@213.225.76.177) joined ##slackware. [13:03] anybody know how to set WEP in open mode in rc.inet1.conf ? I've got there just WLAN_KEY="s:password" and the result is iwconfig wlan0 key ***** and following iwconfig wlan0 key restricted [13:05] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [13:05] man.. i could eat a medium roasted cow... preferably in hot curry sauce up to its knees [13:05] whohaz? icanhaztehshare? [13:06] rumenovski (n=zoli@77.29.180.100) left irc: "Leaving" [13:07] hrad: WEP in rc.inte1.conf works for me.. however i use the hex version [13:08] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:09] macavity, I was using recently opensuse with this router and I know it needs open mode to work, but if I look into logs, after NIC startup, it is automatically set to restricted, I don't what should I put into inet1.conf [13:10] odd [13:10] what happens if you do it manually? [13:10] there is just WLAN_KEY which makes the inet1 script to run iwconfig wlan0 key "******" AND iwconfig wlan0 key restricted [13:10] and does iwlist show the auth as open? [13:11] jazz (n=jazz@adsl-10-91-127.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "BitchX: use it, it makes hair grow in funny places!" [13:11] hang on.. ill grep the scripts [13:12] jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:51f) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:12] macavity, I didn't figure out what exactly runs the iwconfigs [13:12] jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:51f) joined ##slackware. [13:13] are you on 12.1 or 12.2? [13:13] and iwlist works only if the NIC is up... [13:13] 12.2 [13:14] im on 12.1 [13:14] another stuff what I can't figure out, is that if it doesn't get an IP from dhcp server, it goes down, instead of stay up and keep requesting the dhcp server [13:14] *staying [13:15] here it says in rc.wireless at line 214-216 that it wants to do so [13:15] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [13:15] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:15] I was told here not to use rc.wireless and rc.wireless.conf in 12.2 [13:16] that sounds rigt [13:16] try this: grep -n "key restricted" /etc/rc.d/* [13:16] that should show you any place in the scripts that does something like that [13:17] sberla54__ (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) left irc: "Gone" [13:17] only in rc.wireless [13:17] sberla54 (n=sberla54@213-140-16-190.fastres.net) joined ##slackware. [13:17] I don't know what is the source of ot [13:17] it [13:18] np, I go offline and will try to solve it... [13:18] knnk (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-116-30-178.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:18] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [13:18] hrad (n=hrad___@84.19.44.148) left irc: "Leaving" [13:19] you could track down if rc.wirelss is called from rc.inte1 if there are any wireless specific settings set in rc.intet1.conf [13:19] Action: The-Croupier waves again and again and again [13:19] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.183.254) joined ##slackware. [13:19] gee.. i love it when they just give up and bail out while i am still investigating their problem... [13:19] lowkyalur (n=low@icm13-orange.orange.sk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:19] it gives me so nice feelings, and i really want to help them when they come back [13:19] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008254164.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [13:19] macavity: lol [13:20] Action: The-Croupier quits [13:20] Action: The-Croupier joins [13:20] Action: macavity kicks [13:20] plipp (n=cam@78.82.68.163) joined ##slackware. [13:20] guess who? :P [13:20] Action: The-Croupier cries [13:20] Action: The-Croupier joins again 30mins passed [13:20] sup guys [13:20] ok, i want a juicy stake [13:20] dive: hi man [13:21] higuita [13:21] hi [13:21] oops [13:21] uh oh.. is wolf good with ketchup? [13:21] brb [13:21] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: "Looks around for terminal..." [13:22] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [13:22] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Client Quit [13:22] T_T (why me..?) [13:24] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) left irc: "Quitte" [13:24] because you look juicy? [13:24] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:24] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [13:25] Action: edman007 waves to The-Croupier [13:25] lol [13:25] someone on the xorg mailing list just flamed the living shit out of everyone... just to finally admit that he had not actually read the manual [13:26] ... one of the devs just posted this to him: http://xkcd.com/293 [13:26] alright, now its time to get food [13:26] edman007: icanhaz? [13:26] me only [13:26] :-( [13:26] Action: edman007 throws laptop hdd magnets at macavity [13:27] uhh... i take it they go well with some chillie sauce? [13:27] SlackLnx (n=Lee@85.139.11.189) joined ##slackware. [13:27] uhh...yea...try it [13:27] hrad (n=hrad___@84.19.44.148) joined ##slackware. [13:27] Action: macavity breaks a tooth [13:28] Action: macavity finds the shotgun and a case of buckshot shells [13:28] macavity, tastes great right? [13:28] edman.... og eeeeedmaaaan... here kiddy kiddy kiddy [13:28] Action: edman007 pings nix_chix0r and runs [13:28] :P [13:28] NOOOO [13:29] *BLAM* [13:29] ... ohcrapshitno! [13:29] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Client Quit [13:29] nix_chix0r: no reason to put up a face like that... i got scare too you know... [13:29] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [13:30] taub (n=taub@ip-80-226-15-197.vodafone-net.de) joined ##slackware. [13:30] you sure do use a lot of libstick though...... right? [13:31] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: SendQ exceeded [13:32] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [13:32] stef_204_ (n=stef@pool-71-98-185-167.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:33] would it be bad if i call the bf at work and tell him he has to come home to feed me [13:33] :P [13:33] go for it [13:34] i could say the baby is comming! [13:34] quick [13:34] lulz [13:34] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:34] "the baby just popped out.. and now we are both hungry! come homez nauw!" [13:34] we can haz cheezburgerzz plzz [13:35] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [13:35] nix_chix0r: When are you due to poop that baby out? [13:35] sooooooooon 3weeks or less [13:36] i take it we are bout he see the youngest hacker ever? [13:36] youngest one to hack the gibson [13:37] ooohh! [13:37] eviljames, http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8464/watermelon.jpg i took that just a few days ago [13:37] wow.. the Goodyear blimp! :P [13:37] Nice ink. [13:38] haha [13:38] yeah i feel like a whale [13:38] Anthony_ (n=iron@host89-251-107-20.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:39] watch out for greenpeace then... they mat attempt to drown you [13:39] Also, the Navy is going to screw up your convesations via sonar. [13:39] noooooo dont cover my blow hole:o [13:39] :P [13:40] AlanCox (n=LNX@85.139.11.131) joined ##slackware. [13:40] AlanCox: your kidding me, right? [13:41] taub_ (n=taub@ip-90-187-193-21.web.vodafone.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:43] cox ehheheheh [13:43] Zygocactus (n=zygocact@189.77.50.89) joined ##slackware. [13:43] bsdx (n=bsd@210.211.128.10) left irc: "Leaving" [13:44] plipp (n=cam@78.82.68.163) left irc: "Leaving." [13:45] of all the old jokes ive seen... [13:46] well done, insult people as they come in for help [13:48] me? [13:48] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-175-126-ull.customer.panservice.it) joined ##slackware. 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[13:54] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actb52.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Connection reset by peer [13:54] If he claims to be the Alan Cox of kernel fame and obviously isn't, somebody PM me and I'll handle it. Otherwise, let him be; he ain't caused no trouble. [13:54] k [13:56] will the real AlanCox please stand up [13:56] :P [13:56] Action: nix_chix0r stands up [13:56] hohoho [13:56] nix_chix0r: sit down you two :P [13:56] omg, a whale [13:57] hrad (n=hrad___@84.19.44.148) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:57] knnk (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-116-30-178.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:57] actually i'm richard stallman i am a sweaty fat hairy old man with an anti linux torvald badge [13:57] linux/linus [13:58] That's GNU/Linus [13:58] Not Linux/linus [13:58] duh [13:58] afaik RMS has nothing against Linus... he does, however, often state that he has different views [13:58] oh snap i failed [13:59] heh i just read yesterday that he has about six honorary degrees [13:59] arny` (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [13:59] macavity, if you were only there for his show up at the university of minnestoa [13:59] hola [13:59] "If you cant use GNU/Debian GNU/Linux you should be using GNU/Linux at GNU/all" :P [13:59] *shouldn't [14:00] nix_chix0r: oh? [14:00] he refused to show up at our LUG unless we renamed it GNULUG:P [14:00] lol [14:00] nix_chix0r: i dont dount it for one seccond... he is socially impaired [14:00] Action: edman007 GNU/LUGs RMS into the chan [14:00] he got shown the bird a few times [14:00] "the bird"? [14:00] Action: edman007 flips nix_chix0r the bird [14:01] hey now [14:01] macavity, that finger thats in the middle... [14:01] ah [14:01] Action: antler feeds both edman007 and nix_chix0r bird [14:01] omnom? [14:01] antler, i already had chicken today... [14:01] i had a mozi stick and welch's grape soda [14:01] edman007: is there another way to install elilo than using efibootmgr? [14:02] yum mozi sticks [14:02] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-143-231-251.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:02] they just dont taste good cold and i'm too lazy to heat them so i only ate one [14:04] nix_chix0r: Is that true about the refusing to show up for your UG? [14:04] pprkut, yes, get elilo-3.6-ia32.efi from the elilo sf site (or ia64 if its an itanium system), on a partition that your efi system has drivers for, add /efi/Linux/ and put elilo.efi, vmlinuz, elilo.conf in the folder [14:05] nix_chix0r: Here, he politely suggested that it be changed to vanglug, but he didn't avoid the group altogether. [14:05] eviljames, yeah [14:05] our TCLUG [14:05] pprkut, then your system should show DRIVE:Linux as a boot device, select it and it should run linux (might show /efi/Linux/elilo.efi or something) [14:05] jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:51f) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:05] eviljames, i think he just woke up on the wrong side of the bed [14:05] pprkut, if you are having problems just jump into the efi shell and run it from there [14:05] edman007: ok, I'll try [14:06] jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:51f) joined ##slackware. [14:06] edman007: and how? [14:06] pprkut, how? [14:06] drop into efi shell [14:06] I haven't found such a thing yet [14:07] oh, yea...the shell app is on intels site.. [14:07] ah, alright [14:07] refit installs if for me... [14:07] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:09] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:13] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:15] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-24-131-55-107.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:15] Nick change: _kyori -> _kyori2 [14:16] Nick change: _kyori2 -> _kyori3 [14:16] Nick change: _kyori3 -> _kyori [14:16] knnk (n=ngworeka@cpe-70-116-30-178.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [14:16] Nick change: _kyori -> kyori [14:18] slackytude (i=1009@g229219215.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:19] bsdx (n=bsd@210.211.128.10) joined ##slackware. [14:19] is there anything in slack that can extract a .deb? [14:19] Hey who can tell me somethin` [14:19] wtf is a .deb? [14:19] nahmin, somethin [14:19] edman007: ar [14:20] it's two tarballs in an ar [14:20] :D [14:20] eviljames, thanks [14:20] not that:P [14:20] im` curious [14:20] why is good slackware for.. [14:20] That qualifies as 2 cuils [14:20] i mean.. like a paralel with archlinux.. how is slackware [14:21] i ask that because [14:21] i don`t like ubuntu :( [14:21] and i can`t put archlinux [14:21] and some times ago.. 3-4 years [14:21] i had slack and i like it [14:21] lys999 (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:21] its doing fine [14:21] use tar to extract the deb and you'll find a control file plus 2 more archive files [14:21] and maybe i will put it`again but not sure :( [14:22] slackytude2 (i=1009@g229219215.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:23] Nick change: kyori -> kyori2 [14:24] Nick change: kyori2 -> kyori3 [14:24] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:24] Nick change: kyori3 -> kyori [14:25] slackytude (i=1009@g229219215.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:26] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:27] bsdx (n=bsd@210.211.128.10) left irc: "Leaving" [14:28] Politics (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [14:28] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-24-131-55-107.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:30] how can be used slackware i mean.. for what is made?:D [14:31] hrad (n=hrad___@84.19.44.65) joined ##slackware. [14:32] macavity, done [14:33] DeeeeP (i=0@bl10-116-31.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:34] is there any way of checking the integrity of my slackware instalation ? [14:34] The-spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) joined ##slackware. [14:34] DeeeeP: What sort of integrity? [14:35] I put WLAN_KEY="hexkey" and WLAN_KEY="open" into rc.inet1.conf and it is suprisingly working [14:35] i think my slackware installation is messed up [14:35] DeeeeP: What's wrong? [14:35] just lost menus from my xfce windows , cant close or minimize windows , icons wont appear [14:35] kde wont start too [14:35] What did you do prior to this happening? [14:36] nothing that i recall [14:36] been changing themes last reboot [14:36] Well, you had to have done something. [14:36] My best guess is you screwed up fonts or something. [14:37] ( cd /var/log/setup; ./setup.04.mkfontdir ) # should fix that problem, if that indeed is the problem. [14:37] Have you checked your log files for error messages yet? [14:37] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:37] xfce error log ? [14:37] fAu (n=fAu@81-174-13-169.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [14:37] Xorg.0.log probably [14:38] let me see if that works [14:38] well , fluxbox is working [14:39] hey is there anybody who understand network setting in slackware ? [14:39] hrad: Why don't you just ask your question? [14:39] I can't find anything in rc.inet1 script what run iwconfig to set the wifi stuff [14:39] Alan_Hicks, now i reboot X ? [14:39] DeeeeP: yes [14:39] Alan_Hicks: What skoal do you recommend with my Slackware 12.2 installation? [14:40] ok brb [14:40] DeeeeP (i=0@bl10-116-31.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:40] hrad, if you on 12.2,consider using wicd [14:40] Politics (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:40] mbhayes: Copenhagen usually works better than Skoal. [14:40] hehe [14:40] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) joined ##slackware. [14:40] mbhayes: At least, it does now that the Skoal Bandit car is no more. [14:40] hrad: What version of Slackware? [14:41] heh [14:41] hi, is it possible to rebuild the kernel without doing a full compile? [14:41] like if i just wanted to add a module [14:41] steerpike: Yes, but I generally don't recommend it. [14:42] why not? [14:42] Alan_Hicks, 12.2 ...the problem is, that the script or some of its childs runs iwconfig to set it before start, but I don't like the way it is done [14:42] Lotta stuff that can go wrong. [14:42] hrad: Define "don't like the way it is done". [14:42] Alan_Hicks, it runs iwconfig wlan0 key restricted automatically [14:42] SlackLnx (n=LNX@85.139.11.146) joined ##slackware. [14:42] steerpike: You could simply change the .config and run "make modules; make modules_install" and hope that works, but it's not garaunteed. [14:43] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) joined ##slackware. [14:43] You could even cd deep into the source tree and run gcc on the source for just that particular driver, then copy it into place, but I don't recommend that either. [14:43] bruc3 (n=bruc3@189.56.20.108) left irc: "BitchX: made with real honey." [14:43] hrad: What's the matter with doing that? [14:43] lys999 (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [14:43] depends if the module was previously compiled in for one thing [14:44] Alan_Hicks, because my router doesn't accept it [14:44] gotta be open mode [14:45] hrad: You running anything odd like say ndiswrapper or madwifi? [14:45] edman007: doesn't work :( [14:45] hrad: use WLAN_KEY[n]="abcdefg open" [14:45] pprkut, what happens when you try it? [14:46] Alan_Hicks, no, I turned that off [14:46] my problem is elilo just hangs... [14:46] The word "open" will do the trick and prevent setting restricted mode [14:46] and is this an ia32 or ia64 system? [14:46] pprkut: still that PC with the EFI ? [14:47] edman007: when I select it first time it jumps back to the selection screen, when I select it again it hangs; ia32, at least no itanium [14:47] alienBOB, ok, i try, that's why I wanted to know where the iwconfig is run from, but I can't really see it in the script [14:47] alienBOB: yes [14:47] hrad: never heard of "grep -r" ? [14:47] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable220.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:47] Zygocactus (n=zygocact@189.77.50.89) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:47] alienBOB, greped, but it was just in rc.wireless [14:48] The rc.wireless script is called by rc.inet1 and that is where the iwconfig etc.. .commands are run [14:48] I don't use it [14:48] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-175-126-ull.customer.panservice.it) left irc: Client Quit [14:48] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:48] You don't use it? In what way? Did you remove it? [14:48] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [14:49] hrad: You don't use grep?! [14:49] alienBOB, ouch, I thought it's deprecated ...no, I just deleted the conf [14:49] Alan_Hicks, :) [14:49] Zygocactus (n=zygocact@189.77.50.89) joined ##slackware. [14:50] hrad: upgradepkg --reinstall wireless-tools*.tgz [14:50] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.34) joined ##slackware. [14:50] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:50] The rc.wireless.conf is deprecated. The rc.wireless script is most certainly _not_ deprecated. [14:50] Alan_Hicks, no need, I deleted only that wireless.conf ... which shouldn't have been in use [14:51] DeeeeP (i=0@bl11-180-3.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:51] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [14:51] Alan_Hicks, didnt work , and my pc rebooted without i told him to :x [14:51] so this is clear now...thank you for help [14:51] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-175-126-ull.customer.panservice.it) joined ##slackware. [14:52] please... can I use a Pinnacle MovieBox USB 510 under linux ? [14:52] AbsTradELic: google knows [14:52] lol [14:52] AbsTradELic: tandammmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [14:53] DeeeeP: Well, without you telling us what you did to screw it up, and without checking your log files, how are we supposed to help you? [14:53] right [14:54] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060040ca732372.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:55] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060040ca732372.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [14:56] steerpike (n=Unknown@unaffiliated/steerpike) left ##slackware. [14:56] Alan_Hicks, so there no tool to check slackware current integrity files ... X config runs without error [14:56] i think is some broken package [14:57] Anakin (i=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [14:57] Zygocactus (n=zygocact@189.77.50.89) left irc: Client Quit [14:57] DeeeeP: upgradepkg --reinstall would fix that. [14:57] md5sum? [14:57] yeah , something like that [14:57] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:58] Alan_Hicks, i dont know wich package is broken [14:58] DeeeeP: Do you want me to hold your hand? That's what wildcards are for. [14:58] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [14:58] upgradepkg --reinstall /path/to/slackware/x/*.tgz [14:59] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:59] AlanCox (n=LNX@85.139.11.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:59] Alan_Hicks: would you hold my hand ...(eyes to sky and exahales w/eye blinkages :) [14:59] ugh [15:00] Old_Fogie: Sure I will. Just let me cut it off with a hack-saw first. [15:00] i've been upgrading since 12 [15:00] Alan_Hicks: hahah [15:00] if Old_Fogie gets his hand hold, I want too [15:00] dont have latest iso , and im running current [15:00] on second thought I rather not [15:00] slackytude2: no you can't get in on this, this is tween me n him :) [15:00] *sigh* [15:00] no love for me [15:00] chuckle,chuckle, ahahah [15:00] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [15:01] slackpkg reinstall * [15:01] :D [15:01] Kerio2004 (n=Port@78.93.67.114) left irc: Success [15:02] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [15:04] SpyKee (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) joined ##slackware. [15:05] lowkyalur (n=low@icm2-orange.orange.sk) joined ##slackware. [15:05] bash: slackpkg: package reinstall does not end in tgz, aborting. [15:05] AlanCox (n=LNX@85.139.11.148) joined ##slackware. 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[15:16] Old_Fogie: my new laptop :) [15:16] mmmm, new toyz [15:16] pprkut: what'd you get? [15:17] pprkut, lilo or elilo? [15:17] Old_Fogie: HP EliteBook 8530w [15:17] lilo sucks, its too easy.. [15:17] pprkut: great! [15:17] i'm going to get elilo working [15:17] edman007: lilo, trying elilo again right now [15:17] elilo is what good for? [15:17] Spiko (i=Spiko@89-212-211-117.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [15:18] The-spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:18] pprkut: I'm not in gui now, but from the name, sounds like a nice laptop. [15:18] pprkut: \o/ [15:18] kyori (n=kyori@79-66-179-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: [15:18] alienBOB: by the way, Thank you for your guide on dokuwiki. It was much helpful. [15:19] MegafEee (n=WMaker@unaffiliated/megaf) joined ##slackware. [15:19] alienBOB: so stupid :/ installing lilo in superblock worked... [15:19] edman007: how's that mac hard drive over there? [15:19] Old_Fogie, nice [15:19] edman007: oh? it just started working? or you get a new drive? [15:20] new drive, upgraded to 320gb [15:20] (was at 100gb) [15:20] woh, a biggin [15:20] edman007: elilo still doesn't [15:20] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:20] yeah, you never have enough room , thats for sure [15:20] pprkut, did you try 3.6? because 3.7 and 3.8 seem to have problems loading for me :/ [15:20] no, I didn't. 3.6 works better? [15:21] for me, yes... [15:21] it actually runs, 3.7 and 3.8 don't run at all for me [15:21] _kyori (n=kyori@79-66-179-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:21] ok, let's try it then [15:22] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui embora" [15:22] witch location should i right commands to run on startup ? [15:23] BrunoXLambert (n=BxL@modemcable188.10-70-69.static.videotron.ca) left irc: "Quitte" [15:23] Politics (n=Internet@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:23] tntslack: /etc/rc.d/rc.local [15:23] macavity thanks [15:23] tntslack: slackbook.org ;-) [15:24] macavity i new that, but wanted to be sure :) [15:24] riiiight :P [15:24] just a friend asked for that :) [15:24] macavity: hoping to start building your x11 tonight. I found my regression (of an upgrade) , so now I'm onto more $NEW stuff :) [15:25] Old_Fogie: *great* [15:25] Action: edman007 tries making a tiny kernel [15:25] tntslack (n=will@adsl51-84.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:25] Old_Fogie: you can start with doing a clone of linus' tree and get that running [15:25] tntslack (n=will@adsl51-84.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:26] Old_Fogie: shitload of important intel stuff in there [15:26] macavity: yeah I had a *bad* regression on libxml.. I'm so glad I went with rdiff-backup.. took time to figure out which was which, since I did so many, but still, way better than the way I used to [15:26] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:26] macavity: ok so clone his kernel, build that , then onto x11 ? [15:26] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:26] Old_Fogie: yup [15:26] ok [15:27] macavity: I'm going to be doing the builds for slack 12.1, sound ok? [15:27] Old_Fogie: if you are on 12.1 you also need xkeyboard-config [15:27] or 12.0 for that matter [15:27] is that in the build-system of yours? [15:28] nope.. since 12.2 has it [15:28] bah, I'll read the site and stop asking :) [15:28] uhm, this is not updated yet [15:28] macavity: well, it'll probably take me tonight to get the kernel right. [15:28] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:29] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:29] Old_Fogie: huh? git clone it, cd into it cat /proc/config.gz > .config && make oldconfig [15:29] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [15:29] macavity: oh? it'll see a 2.6.27 ok.. no extra tweaking? [15:29] there are nothing special that you need to attend to.. the default choices for oldconfig will do the right thing [15:29] ah good [15:29] edman007: nope, doesn't work either, same symptoms [15:29] when you make oldconfig you just hold down enter :P [15:30] gotcha :) [15:30] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@host240-239-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:30] it will ask some 300 questions for which the default is all honkydory [15:31] Kerio2004 (n=Port@78.93.67.114) joined ##slackware. [15:31] ok, i gotta poo, shower, eat burgarz and drink coffee [15:31] Old_Fogie: ill be back in a couple of hours [15:31] ok cu macavity [15:31] ok [15:31] Old_Fogie: DONT forget to fill out global.conf :P [15:32] ok [15:32] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:34] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.20.151) joined ##slackware. [15:35] alruna (n=hasse@c-85dce253.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [15:35] elilo? [15:36] funky stuff [15:36] slackytude, yea, and it hates me... [15:37] heh [15:37] i kinda think it hates my 5MB kernel...so i'm trying to shrink it.. [15:37] thats on a macbook? [15:37] Lisaaaa (i=pp@41.236.13.173) joined ##slackware. [15:37] k_wolf (n=wolf@201008254164.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:37] yea [15:38] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actb52.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:38] sounds like a nice project [15:39] if it works... [15:39] need lot of pizza and coffee,tho [15:40] well caffeine...not coffee [15:40] Nick change: _kyori -> kyori [15:41] good enuf [15:41] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:43] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [15:43] edman007: coffee works for me :) [15:44] Action: edman007 prefers other caffeinated items [15:45] depends on the tine [15:45] and on the time [15:47] dgo (n=dgo@unaffiliated/dgo) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:47] does anyone know if the default slack kernels have the EFI stuff? [15:48] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [15:48] EFI - Electronic Fuel Injection (for that racecar feel) ? :) [15:48] MrHales (n=user@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [15:49] argh, now lilo even works when installed in MBR. The only thing I had to do was flag sda1 as bootable [15:49] alisonken1, yea, makes your puter super fast [15:50] edman007: yes I know, no they don't [15:50] So, when I boot my Eee PC from the 12.2 Slack stick, I get kernel panic: "init not found" [15:50] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [15:50] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:50] My usb stick missing something? [15:50] MrHales, your root=/ is probably wrong [15:51] s/\/// [15:51] I used the img file from 12.2 and did dd as instructed... [15:52] MrHales, did it fit? [15:52] 1G stick. [15:52] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-415693.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:52] are you just hitting enter at the boot: prompt? [15:53] jmoncayo (n=steven@190.152.132.25) joined ##slackware. [15:53] Yeah. [15:53] hey guys, my mailserver is sending too much spam, how can i check whats the problem with it [15:53] well [15:54] I'm using huge.s, because the Eee PC has a lil' atom processor [15:54] well try the default kernel [15:54] I get the same error on both [15:54] Atom boots smp kernels just fine [15:54] Okay. [15:54] So just hit 'enter' right? [15:55] try it out :P [15:55] AlanCox (n=LNX@85.139.11.148) left irc: "I'll Be Back" [15:56] later folks [15:56] I did that... why can init not be found? [15:57] is slackware's site down at the moment? [15:57] busy, at least [15:57] you know what that means then, updates to --current ; woohoo! gnome is finally here [15:58] don't know - it's not answering pings, so could be a route/host issue [15:58] Old_Fogie: Yes. slackware.com has died. Well, at least for the moment. [15:58] ah ok [15:58] ty [15:58] Still not sure what the issue is, but the colo will be contacted after their lunch break's over. 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[16:14] Alan_Hicks what happened with slack...com why it was down? [16:14] some updates? [16:14] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@adsl196-206-73-206-196.adsl196-3.iam.net.ma) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:14] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:14] nahmin: Wish I could tell ya. [16:15] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:18] slackytude2 (i=1009@g229219215.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [16:18] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actb52.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:19] slackytude (i=1009@g229219215.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:19] alienBOB, are you online ? :) [16:19] Yes I am [16:20] can we talk in private a few minutes? [16:21] Yeah go ahead [16:22] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-415693.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:22] the gremlins got slackware [16:22] oops - slackware.com [16:22] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-415693.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:24] josemanuel (n=josemanu@168.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:25] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:28] with each day that passes, i hate kde4 more and more [16:29] JerrySabor^ (n=mrsabor@63-149-142-34.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it." [16:29] kiten doesn't work, scim doesn't work either with qt-based apps, koffice crashes like win98 on buggy software... [16:29] So, why are you using it? [16:29] s/either/no [16:30] fred, out of habit [16:30] also, it's a pain to go back, i've done it twice already actually [16:30] MrHales (n=user@12.24.239.145) left ##slackware. [16:30] anyway, i just wanted to vent my frustration [16:31] josemanuel: a quick edit to /etc/profile.d/scim.sh will help get you SCIM support in kde 4.2 [16:31] tell me the edit, alienBOB, please [16:31] i thought the trick was to put that small bash script on Autostart [16:31] export QT_IM_MODULE="scim-bridge" [16:31] Instead of "scim" [16:32] that's it? [16:32] thanks [16:32] And yes you do also need that Autostart script to have scim -d start when you login [16:32] slackytude2 (i=1009@g229219215.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:32] Do not forget to make /etc/profile.d/scim.sh executable [16:32] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:32] And select a LANG value that has UTF-8 [16:33] yeah, i know all that, scim did work with gtk-based apps [16:33] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Connection timed out [16:33] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@41.248.79.80) joined ##slackware. [16:34] but thanks again [16:37] jmoncayo (n=steven@190.152.132.25) left irc: "leaving" [16:38] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [16:39] Well, cool... internet on my desktop [16:39] aft. [16:39] anyhoo... [16:39] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [16:40] MrHales: inter .... net? Dude, this channel is about linux, not fishing. [16:40] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@actb52.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [16:41] everything goes fine until VFS: mounted root (ext3 filesystem) [16:42] Warning: unable to open an initial console. [16:42] Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel [16:43] So is my bootable usb broken? [16:46] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:48] Why is it having trouble finding init? I mean, that's part of the initial ram disk, right? [16:48] Why would it not be looking there? [16:52] Anakin (i=Anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [16:52] ahmed-tux (n=rhapsody@41.248.79.80) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:53] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.77.48.213) joined ##slackware. [16:53] MrHales: Odds are fstab is broken, not your bootable usb [16:53] Ro8in (n=scfg@c83-248-0-238.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [16:53] MrHales: Probably searching for /dev/hd** vs. /dev/sd** or /dev/ub** [16:53] hello [16:54] MrHales: try passing root= to the kernel to see if that helps, rather than init= [16:54] my apache and mysql not start in /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd and rc.mysqld, when reboot machine, only manually. [16:54] Zygocactus: are the +x? [16:54] do i need to update my driver to get my wireless connection to work faster? its extremely slow. I use a Belkin router and intel 3945ABG card. [16:54] yes... [16:54] Zygocactus: and are they referenced in rc.local or rc.M or such? [16:56] Thanks evil, I'll try that. [16:56] I dont know. in rc.local dont be. [16:56] how I see? [16:56] rg3_ (n=rg3@83.231.89.51) joined ##slackware. [16:56] I caught another error as it flew by when kernel was configuring. I *looked* as if there may be an error in the image file I used for this stick, so I'm going to rebuild the stick first. [16:57] MrHales: No worries, I saw a similar problem before. Confirm what your usb drive is being detected as (/dev/sda or /dev/hda or wahtever) and update fstab appropriately. [16:57] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:57] or write a udev rule to mount it [16:57] so it takes the same mount point everytime that you specify [16:57] oh [16:57] mbhayes: The mount point is / [16:57] I didn't read the entire scroll back [16:58] MrHales: and fstab isn't the only thing that may need updating. /etc/lilo.conf might as well [16:58] plus a lilo reinstall [16:58] Zygocactus: ( cd /etc/rc.d ; grep -i "rc.mysql" * ) [16:59] chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd && chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld [16:59] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:59] mbhayes: he has claimed that they are alraedy +x :D [16:59] ls -al /etc/rc.d/rc.httpd [16:59] prove it [17:00] Oh, an empiricist, eh? [17:00] oh yes [17:00] Well, we know how to deal with your kind! [17:00] This is on an Eee PC, trying to install Slackware fresh. [17:00] Remove stock Xandros/Debian abominations [17:00] MrHales: magnets work well for that [17:00] rc.M have rc.mysqld start hum...is need to be in rc.M the script that want start up? [17:00] disclaimer: might render everything else useless ;) [17:00] Zygocactus: ls -al /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld [17:01] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [17:01] Zygocactus: also did you read rc.mysqld to create the proper mysql database? [17:01] Zygocactus: rc.M is called anytime you go into a multi-user runlevel. [17:01] mbhayes dont is this. [17:01] brb, need X to restart. [17:01] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) left ##slackware. [17:03] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-143-231-251.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:05] dont is only the script to have +x permission to be runing? [17:05] scripts in /etc/rc.d [17:05] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [17:06] Zygocactus: +x = executable. Anything in /etc/rc.d that you want to run should be +x [17:06] and be called from another script. [17:06] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [17:07] DeeeeP (i=0@bl11-180-3.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:07] jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:51f) left irc: "Leaving" [17:09] and have , but dont run, dont is need to be in rc.M? [17:09] Zygocactus: ls -al /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld [17:09] show me the output [17:10] other than that.. stop complaining please.. you're repeating yourself.. we've asked for information.. you aren't giving it [17:10] ok....patient, please [17:10] show ls -al is. [17:10] .... it takes all about 5 seconds ... [17:11] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 399 2009-02-26 14:11 rc.mysqld.chroot* [17:11] the result is this. [17:11] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] gades (n=gades@190.33.62.19) joined ##slackware. [17:13] macavity (n=macavity@3e6b3a9e.rev.stofanet.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:13] skibur (i=1000@12.197.205.184) joined ##slackware. [17:14] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) joined ##slackware. [17:14] GArik (n=wesnoth@mpd-2508.tvcom.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:15] Zygocactus: and rc.mysqld.chroot is called from where? [17:15] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [17:15] DJAnonimo (i=shiners@golf522.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [17:15] hi guys [17:16] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [17:16] im looking for firefox 3.0.6 slackware package [17:16] is there anyone around ? [17:16] yes. [17:16] sorenp (n=Soren@h-53-23.A157.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Client Quit [17:16] Ro8in (n=scfg@c83-248-0-238.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:17] DJAnonimo: in slackware-12.2/patches/packages/ [17:17] Ro8in (n=scfg@c83-248-0-238.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [17:17] BP{k}, no place, but to be in rc.d and with +x this no make to run? [17:18] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:18] Nick change: Strykar_ -> Strykar [17:18] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:18] Zygocactus: We already told you. For a script in rc.d to run it needs to be 1) have the executable bit set, and 2) It needs to be called from another script. [17:18] BP{k}: I think there is a slight language barrier that we're rubbing up against here. [17:18] eviljames: slight? [17:19] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.61.116) joined ##slackware. [17:19] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl9-164-153.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:19] Zygocactus: if you write a custom rc script for Slackware and you want Slackware to run that script when the system boots up, you will have to call that script in (for instance) /etc/rc.d/rc.local [17:20] Lisaaaa (i=pp@41.236.13.173) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:20] In your case, add this line to rc.local: "/etc/rc.d/rc.mysql.chroot start". [17:20] alienBOB, ohhh it was more clearly. [17:20] thnkz... [17:20] all. [17:21] Zygocactus: Tentamos ajudar. [17:21] the usually is put in rc.local, is the correct? [17:21] eviljames, ...heheheh. agradecido. [17:22] I try make the correct.;) [17:22] Zygocactus: Sim. Coisas adicionadas a Slackware ir no rc.local [17:22] (hoping that's correct :D) [17:22] arny` (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [17:23] MegafEee (n=WMaker@unaffiliated/megaf) left irc: "Leaving" [17:23] lmao2k (n=nothere@82.34.242.225) joined ##slackware. [17:24] but in rc.M already run rc.mysqld I continue make use this? use rc.M to run httpd and mysql? ok? and others out rc.M put in rc.local, ok? [17:24] Zygocactus: rc.M calls rc.mysqld but not rc.mysql.chroot [17:24] sdns (n=swordfis@ip-175-126-ull.customer.panservice.it) left irc: Client Quit [17:24] Zygocactus: So you could change rc.M or put both in rc.local. Local is a better choice. [17:25] DeeeeP (i=0@bl11-180-3.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:26] eviljames, and the reference in rc. M is lost? [17:27] It will be ignored. [17:27] Alan_Hicks, still there ? [17:27] josemanuel (n=josemanu@168.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: "Saliendo" [17:27] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] i prefer alancoXXX [17:28] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [17:28] nix_chix0r, lol ;p [17:29] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:29] (nobody will repeat that, and this hasn't been logged either :D ) [17:29] warm today for feburary, 81 degrees F' [17:29] what did i just miss Camarade_Tux? [17:29] 81????? where [17:30] need help . i just reinstalled slackware with command slackpkg reinstall * , and still have a problem with xfce and kde ... deleted user configs .kde and .config... any help ? [17:30] oklahoma [17:30] mv rc.mysqld.chroot rc.mysqld [17:30] mv rc.httpd.chroot rc.httpd [17:30] oh nevermind too many tornados there [17:30] but that weather sounds mighty nice [17:30] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [17:30] dont is better? eviljames ? [17:30] *best. [17:30] ;) [17:30] Pig_Pen, " i prefer alancoXXX" (instead of AlanHicks) [17:31] dodging tornados is kind of a sport and hobby for some people [17:31] Zygocactus: it is Slackware. You decide how those scripts are called, and where they are started. [17:31] Zygocactus: That is better, I think. [17:31] nix_chix0r: are you a naughty girl? [17:31] yes [17:31] WooHoo! i like naughty girls so much i married one [17:32] Action: alienBOB slept with Alan_Hicks in one room... beware of what you are wishing for nix_chix0r [17:32] alienBOB, great.. [17:32] nix_chix0r, can you prove it ? :D [17:32] Pig_Pen: You live in Tornado country? Have you ever thought about ... you know ... moving? [17:32] eviljames, me too. [17:32] rg3_ (n=rg3@83.231.89.51) left irc: "Quit" [17:32] thnkz all. [17:32] Camarade_Tux, when my contractions stop i will but i doubt it will be soon [17:32] naw, the cost of living in oklahoma is too cheap [17:32] Pig_Pen, woohoo 16 degrees here! [17:32] light snow [17:32] lfuser-648 (n=lfuser-6@c-71-58-255-180.hsd1.de.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:33] nix_chix0r, I hope it will be worth the wait :p [17:33] too cold for me [17:33] oh it is especially when i get my adam and eve order:)) [17:33] twas -36C here this morning. :P [17:33] who says prego women can't wear lingere [17:33] Hurricanes at each end and tornadoes in the middle. God bless America. :-D [17:34] dont forget earthquakes [17:34] prego women can't wear lingerie [17:34] i say it [17:34] :D [17:34] see you think ohio would be a good place to live because most of the serial killers leave the state to do their buisness. [17:34] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: "Leaving" [17:34] kyori, shame on you [17:34] for that you can eat my placenta [17:35] prego => bigger boobs ! \o/ [17:35] Lucky. *grumble* [17:35] i would tend to think every state in the USA has its percentage of crazies & psychopaths [17:35] I was joking =] [17:35] also yuck much? :P [17:35] i've just been thinking i'm moving out of minnesota and i haven't really decided where i will move yet. probally the place with the least natural disasters and crime [17:36] Canada? [17:36] uh i want to move away from the cold [17:36] what i hate is when some driver has a cellphone glued to their ear while driving and almost causes traffic accidents [17:36] Oh. [17:36] nix_chix0r: you live in MN ? [17:36] yeah , so maybe oregon or northern california [17:36] virgina state is nice [17:36] nix_chix0r: I live in Albert Lea [17:37] oregon is nice, i lived there for about a year [17:37] rk4n3, enjoying the blizzard? [17:37] lots of pine trees [17:37] nix_chix0r: left work early :) Home and comfortable ... [17:37] Action: Camarade_Tux goes to bed because he lives in France and it's nearly midnight already [17:37] Okay, hopefully that fixes it. [17:37] rk4n3, come to our TLUG [17:38] Camarade_Tux: on the Rivera? [17:38] or 2600 meetings [17:38] I think my usb image had premature disconnection [17:38] we need new blood [17:38] Pig_Pen, no, about 200km north [17:38] Paris? [17:38] nix_chix0r: in the cities ? [17:38] yeah [17:38] nix_chix0r: I could probably stand that [17:38] hey i drive 3hrs to attend so it shouldnt be so bad [17:39] there : http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=lyon&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=39.456673,82.96875&ie=UTF8&ll=45.757463,4.863853&spn=0.136056,0.324097&t=h&z=12&iwloc=addr [17:39] nix_chix0r: Vancouver has the climate you're looking for :D [17:39] nix_chix0r: heh - I work in downtown Mpls, so if its during the week it would be easy for me [17:39] most of us skip the mall of america and chill out downtown minneapolis [17:39] I wish we had delivery in this town. My front door is much closer than my kitchen. [17:39] 1st friday every month java js [17:39] although I'm actually Parisian and have only been living in Lyon for a few months (plus often goes back to Paris, crap, I have train tickets to buy) [17:39] nix_chix0r: java js ? [17:40] coffee shop few blocks on washington i belive can't miss it. sex world is on the left hand side [17:40] Coffee and sex world. [17:40] nix_chix0r: oh - SEX WORLD - yeah I know where THAT is :) [17:40] Wow, it's like a slice of Heaven [17:40] nix_chix0r: jk [17:40] haha i go to sex world [17:40] it's fun [17:41] Camarade_Tux: nice beaches down south of you in the summer time [17:41] seen it - never went inside though [17:41] Pig_Pen, and nice mountains to the east ;) [17:41] "I'm going to be up all night now.." [17:41] hehehe [17:42] heck, I'm always in too much of a rush to do much of anything downtown except rush to get out of downtown [17:42] rk4n3, instead of a bull riding machine, they have a penis:| [17:42] nix_chix0r: hahah [17:42] DeeeeP (i=0@bl11-180-3.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:42] GArik (n=wesnoth@mpd-2508.tvcom.ru) left irc: "Leaving" [17:43] nix_chix0r: so what time is the TLUG at (1st Fri of each month) ? [17:43] Parc National De La Vanoise [17:43] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:44] kyori (n=kyori@79-66-179-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: [17:44] I actually skied just next to it this month but the stations have to stop before the parc [17:44] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) joined ##slackware. [17:44] well the tclug meetings have dwindled down we just go to java j's for 2600 meeting and majority of the people from there are tclug members. but yeah the topcis are pretty much the same and it's a chill spot to grab a drink some food and such. first friday every month some people go to MOA first but they usually end up there around5-8 deppending on how transportation is i assume [17:45] i drive 3hrs to get there since i'm up near duluth so i normally don't get there till about 8ish [17:45] Lyon was founded on the Fourvière hill as a Roman colony in 43 BC [17:45] nix_chix0r: wow - devoted ... [17:46] i get pissed when people in the cites dont show up [17:46] othermindszine (n=othermin@120.sub-70-192-217.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:46] i'm like hey man i drove... [17:46] nix_chix0r: I bet [17:46] DeeeeP (i=0@bl11-180-3.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:46] Pig_Pen, which shows Romans were weird : *nobody* wants to climb the Fourvière hill [17:46] and really time to go to bed, good night [17:47] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:47] nix_chix0r: I can probably make an occaisional one here or there, but usually I'm driving home to Albert Lea on Fri afternoons, unless I've worked from home in the first place (happens often) [17:47] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:47] nix_chix0r: sounds cool though - I'll check it out [17:48] no worries i may or may not make this meeting in march it all deppends on if this lil man tries to hoodini himself out early [17:48] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:49] heh - I suppose sooner is better :) [17:49] no doubt [17:49] what if he dont want to come out until he turns 18 :D [17:49] well then i'll have to go in and get him:)) [17:50] haha - that'll be a movie - "Failure to Launch II" [17:50] haha [17:51] ive deleted all xfce config and reinstalled the package... why do i keep to have some errors inside xfce ? [17:51] oooh booyy he's home i'm like a dog adios [17:51] any clue ? [17:52] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-118-252.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:52] are we supposed to guess the errors? [17:52] cant figure out why i dont have top bar in windows, [17:53] i cant close , minimize etc [17:53] which xfce configs did you delete? [17:53] all .config [17:53] under user [17:53] and .cache ? [17:53] ops [17:54] let me try [17:54] brb [17:54] DeeeeP (i=0@bl11-180-3.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [17:55] thrice`: Yes, guess. Thats what you're here for :P [17:55] lwx015 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:55] :> [17:55] Error ID10t? [17:55] :D [17:56] DeeeeP (i=0@bl11-180-3.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:56] pebkac [17:56] lol [17:56] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:56] yeah thrice` it worked [17:56] miss that dir [17:56] good. also, you should log in as that user, and not root [17:57] ok [17:58] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl9-164-153.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:02] Ro8in (n=scfg@c83-248-0-238.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:02] Ro8in (n=scfg@c83-248-0-238.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [18:04] othermindszine (n=othermin@120.sub-70-192-217.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [18:11] bakednoodle (n=bakednoo@ppp-69-227-142-1.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] why do you use slackware? [18:13] tell me 3 reasons [18:13] anyone plz [18:13] Educational. Fun. Love. [18:13] 1. vanilla installation 2. package manager 3. simple back to basic unix [18:13] wakka wakka wakka [18:14] hmm [18:14] 4º reason - free [18:14] MrHales ? education fun love? how that [18:14] Educational I agree [18:15] DeeeeP .. other linuxos are free im curious why you use slack and.. let say not ubuntu.mandriva.archlinux. etc [18:15] All I knew of Linux or Unix when I installed Slackware the first time was "ls|less" [18:15] :) [18:15] 1. simple yet powerful 2. it works 3. free as in freedom. [18:15] :X [18:16] I learned more about how my computer actually worked, how an operating system works, and how Linux works in the first day than I had on Windows during my former life [18:16] for me , was the first distro i ever used , and i just kept [18:16] how is the slack comunity? [18:16] *we* use it because we've tried it, and what we prefer. you should try them yourself [18:16] And that [18:16] ok [18:16] me too MrHales [18:16] You're talking to us, nahmin. [18:16] It taught me everything I know about Linux [18:16] You tell us. [18:16] heheh [18:16] nice [18:16] and I tried a lot of other distros [18:16] now i use windows, but i want to.. try something else [18:16] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl9-164-153.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [18:17] Yeah, the guru at my local community college where I first met Linux said, "Installing Slackware is good for the soul." [18:17] I never looked back. [18:17] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [18:17] hahahaha [18:17] for the soul ?:)) [18:17] haha [18:17] hes right [18:17] nahmin, with slackware , ull have more work to do than other distros, but you will learn a lot more too [18:17] vanilla software and the kernel is very nice to have. lack of this bothers me in other distros very much. [18:17] so , its up what u want [18:17] Slackware is a challenge, which I always appreciate, but a *very* rewarding challenge. [18:17] hmm [18:18] but is there anyone to help u [18:18] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: "leaving" [18:18] I like how Slackware doesn't hide everything behind a GUI so you know what files are being edited [18:18] i mean more than a "man" [18:18] At the end of the day, when you finally figure some trick out, or go out to the community to ask for help, you've learned so much [18:18] Again, nahmin, you're talking to us. [18:18] ok ok [18:18] i understand [18:18] i just downloaded the dvd slackware install [18:18] and i`m thinking [18:18] Do your homework, ask nice, and be polite, and there is very little the Slackware community *won't* do for you. [18:19] and there's the slackbook :) [18:19] to introduce him in my dvd-rom device [18:19] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [18:19] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009104207.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:19] anyone tried virtualbox under Slack 12.2? [18:19] In the slackbook directory on that disk is a great deal of newbie info [18:19] yes [18:19] A good place to start. [18:20] Guys, the question is: What "for" are you using Slackware? and not why? [18:20] bakednoodle: yes. it works well [18:20] Oh! [18:20] Gizz [18:20] I was reading your posts earlier [18:20] on LQ [18:20] eh [18:20] :d [18:20] i will try :D [18:20] i will tell you also if i `make a good job or not :) [18:20] hihi [18:20] bakednoodle: sorry I was drunk. [18:21] nahmin if you are currently running Winblows then just fire it up in VirtualBox [18:21] lol [18:21] bake :P [18:21] i have 1 laptop [18:21] tntslack: Desktop publishing, web devel, digital art, gaming, Net, everything [18:21] the hard is empty [18:21] :d [18:21] oh [18:21] and burning to try slack :D [18:21] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.34) left irc: [18:21] bakednoodle i got vbox with windows xp and 7 [18:21] for the first time? [18:21] works perfect... [18:21] hmm [18:21] yea [18:22] I currently have VirtualBox under Slamd64 running an XP Pro Guest [18:22] and I have vice versa [18:22] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:22] eh [18:22] nice for you [18:22] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [18:22] virtual box? like wmvare right? [18:22] yes [18:22] XP Pro 64 running Slackware 12.2 in Virtualbox as well as Vmware with an OS X virtual [18:22] This mouse is driving me batty... Ima Beebak [18:22] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) left irc: "Leaving." [18:23] smeding_ (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:23] sidmario_ (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:23] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:23] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) left irc: "Leaving" [18:24] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [18:25] DJAnonimo (i=shiners@golf522.server4you.de) left irc: "Quit, what else ?" [18:26] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:27] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [18:27] DeeeeP (i=0@bl11-180-3.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [18:27] Does anyone own an EEE PC? [18:27] I do. [18:27] Platyna (i=platyna@platinum.edu.pl) joined ##slackware. [18:28] Hello. [18:28] 900a: US$180 at Best Buy, atm [18:28] you have slack installed on it I presume? [18:28] I'm getting there right now [18:28] Is there any way to configure right scroll area on touchpad on the generic mouse driver? [18:28] I was looking at 900HA [18:28] omg that's cheap [18:28] I'm a bit concerned about ssd lifetime if I enable swap [18:28] how big is the display? [18:28] 9" [18:28] ah [18:28] They're (Best Buy) dropping the Linux model [18:28] I a bit divided on that issue [18:29] so it's clearance priced [18:29] bakednoodle: I know... [18:29] Im not sure about the whole enabling swap wrecks your ssd [18:29] Wanting to do a *bit* more research while cfdisk happily spins it's wheels behind me [18:29] I've heard from both sides but im not expert so [18:29] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:29] one dude said research showed that normal use (with swap, journaling, the whole 9) it'd last 27 years or so [18:30] Course, I didn't see said research [18:30] I dont really want the SSD [18:30] I'd rather have the 160GB just for space [18:30] if it lasts 25% that long, i'd say it's money well spent :P [18:30] It is. Best money I've spent in a long time, actually [18:30] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [18:31] agreed even at that fraction thats a good bang for buck [18:31] The touchpad is a bit off, but other than that? [18:31] MrHales: do not use swap on a ssd [18:31] Awesome [18:31] Khratos (n=khratos@190.166.103.111) left irc: "... Leaving , was still at work..." [18:31] Especially not the kind inside the eeepc [18:31] is this true Eric? [18:31] You do not need the swap, it will just slow down the system and wear out the ssd pretty quickly [18:32] Well, I plan on using a very lightweight wm and lxde, [18:32] MrHales: sounds like a good plan [18:32] and I also don't intend on doing much heavy graphics or anything, mostly a very mobile word processor [18:32] so 1GB ram without swap would be better? [18:32] (but I likes my OOo and I'll be using it) [18:33] Mine has 1G ram. [18:33] I think I would just go ahead and spend the extra money for the 2GB [18:33] So, I'm thinking ext2, mount noatime, not use swap, and just do one big partition [18:33] it can't be That expensive for another stick, but is there even an extra slot? [18:33] no [18:33] have to swap out the 1GB stick [18:33] for the 2 [18:34] oh [18:34] MrHales: use relatime [18:34] I'll be setting up another 900a for my 8-yr-old identical to mine. [18:34] relatime? [18:34] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: No route to host [18:35] I mean, what a great gift for a kid. A tiny, honestly kid-sized, computer with surprising power, solid state drive that resists bumps and bruises... [18:35] MrHales: the performance of noatime, but without some of the problems [18:35] and it will run Slackware, so he can learn just how awesome computers can be [18:35] what about the Wall Plug PC? [18:36] XGizzmo: Is that a standard mounting option, or will I be needing something extra? bakednoodle: What's that? [18:36] smeding_ (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:36] It will work asis on slackware 12.2 [18:37] let me find it [18:37] cool. I've got some reading to do, then... would I find that in man mount? [18:37] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:37] http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9634061300.html [18:38] Oh, and wtf has my mouse wheel stopped working? Worked fine in 3.5 and when I installed 4.2 on top of 3.5 (cause I didn't follow instructions well), but now - no scroll. [18:38] MrHales: yes its in man mount [18:39] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:39] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:39] That's pretty awesome, baked [18:40] MrHales: that is actually another good idea (buying a cheap dump eeepc and giving it to a kid) [18:40] home made chilli for dinner tonight oh boy [18:40] Cheap, at least. [18:40] I know [18:41] anyone have experience with the ARM port of Slack? [18:41] I was thinking of buying one of these dev kits [18:41] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:41] nix_chix0r: Almost as good as homemade chicken n' dumplings. [18:41] eh [18:41] mmmm [18:41] i dont think the arm port is up to date [18:41] tbh [18:42] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:42] I think Armedslack is 12.1? [18:42] really? [18:42] MrHales (n=hales@12.24.239.145) joined ##slackware. [18:42] I believe so [18:43] currently updating to 12.2....... [18:43] Whoo! Scollicious! [18:43] bakednoodle: it'll be 12.2 'soon' [18:44] when kde3 has finished compiling and I've finished the other outstanding bits. [18:44] MoZes you are the maintainer? [18:44] He is [18:45] Any idea why if I Alt+F2, type "kon" and tab to Konsole: Terminal, I get a term with my environment, but if I type "konsole" and press enter, I don't? And how can I change that behavior? [18:45] not much is outstanding, apart from I'm not sure how I'll introduce the idea of installing/using it yet, since I dropped support for the original desktop machine I was targeting - and now I use it solely in QEMU. [18:45] MrHales: Terminal was patched to run a login-shell when it starts. Konsole was not [18:45] wow, MoZes you and I need to have a little chat [18:46] bakednoodle: I was going to get a devboard but they were quite underspec'd for building the whole OS on [18:46] for that Wall plug pc? [18:46] plus I have a 600MHZ Xscale machine with1GB RAM without a linux 2.6 port :( [18:46] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:46] MrHales: in Konsole go to Settings > Edit current profile. At "command" write down "/bin/bash -l" [18:46] Interesting... thanks alienBOB [18:46] Many thanks [18:46] Then save the profile as the default [18:47] and if I did buy any more h/w I'm going to be damn sure the support for it is upstream -- otherwise the developers don't integrate it and it's dropped and you have an pretty useless board. [18:47] yeah [18:47] bakednoodle: what do you want to do? [18:48] I havent really decided yet [18:48] but [18:48] if I can get some form of Slack installed to it I think I might be able to come up with a use for it [18:48] VieQ (n=VieQ@unaffiliated/vieq) joined ##slackware. [18:48] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [18:48] heh [18:48] I know some people who've put it on this DNS-xxx2something box, and another on a NAS [18:49] hmm [18:49] VieQ (n=VieQ@unaffiliated/vieq) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:49] well whats the power draw on a typical NAS? [18:49] but my intention was to have a full Linux OS for the old StrongARM RiscPC [18:49] I don't know. [18:49] say 4 hdds [18:49] to be honest, I'd just use an x86 ;-) [18:49] 100W, give or take [18:50] so this wall plug pc claims 5W [18:50] GENTOO [18:50] straterra: bless you,. [18:50] hahaha [18:50] I never got around to installing Gentoo [18:51] bakednoodle: It's ok, it never finishes compiling anyway... [18:51] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [18:51] heh [18:52] so I've been told [18:52] think it would ever get around to compiling on my Q6600? [18:52] I think gentoo's psychological. I know when I had a 486 and compiled only what h/w support I needed and other bits for my purpose, the machine actually was noticably faster [18:52] but that was a 486. You'd just not notice the different with a 3GHz machine [18:52] That's not entirely true, either, though. [18:53] On a 3GHz machine I notice a difference between arch and slack [18:53] what workload would cause you to notice? [18:53] With slack being some ~20% faster (anecdotal, not empirical) [18:53] MoZes: ffmpeg was my measurement. [18:54] MoZes: its not all about "zomg optimizations" [18:54] It's about control too [18:54] what sort of control? [18:55] self-control, while you spend hours waiting for apps to finish, rather than using them [18:55] hehh [18:56] "I counted 50,003 sheep waiting for bash to compile" [18:56] Mozes if I can get my hands on one of these SheevaPlug devkits and send it to you, you wanna play with it? [18:57] 50003 sheep? wow you must have a faster machine than i. [18:57] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:58] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. 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[18:59] what do you mean when you say upstream kernel support [19:00] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [19:00] antler: I _know_ he has a faster machine than I do :) [19:00] bakednoodle: when it's listed in here -- eg [19:00] prisere [arm] # pwd [19:00] /tmp/linux-2.6.28.7/arch/arm [19:00] Channel flood from MoZes -- kicking [19:00] prisere [arm] # grep -i RiscPC Kconfig bool "RiscPC" [19:00] MoZes kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:00] MoZes (n=mozes@bourbon.biscuit.org.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:00] you get all that? :) [19:01] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:01] I suppose I understand [19:01] bakednoodle: when you don't have to apply patches to the kernel.org kernel to have support for your device [19:01] ah ok [19:01] I have a useless Psion Netbook Pro here too [19:01] same thing [19:01] gotcha [19:02] I saw patches that had to be applied under the SDK documentation [19:02] it was a great machine - ran a dull Debian ARM on it at the time,but they never pushed the support upstream :( [19:02] tntslack (n=will@adsl51-84.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:02] bakednoodle: it's very very common to find such arm devices without their support upstream [19:03] each one has to have its own specific support due to the ram layout, or something like that -- they're not like PCs [19:03] interesting that I did not know [19:04] yeah - the binaries in armedslack will run on most arm chips in existance [19:04] if you could find a Corel Netwinder - they're fun. [19:04] well this is a new one apparently I don't really know if it any different "Kirkwood" or something [19:05] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.152.196) joined ##slackware. [19:06] the Psion looks interesting but if it doesnt have mainstream support I understand [19:06] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [19:06] Greetings Programs! [19:06] actually [19:07] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-76-206.nrflva.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:07] now that I read it support for it is being merged into 2.6.27 [19:07] bakednoodle: I'm looking to see if anyone got Debian on it [19:07] if they did, I'll buy it ;) [19:08] Action: MoZes lets Debian people spend their spare time first [19:08] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [19:09] DooD [19:09] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:09] Mozes: theres an installer for Feroceon based Debian onto NAS devices [19:09] _ohm (n=nava@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [19:09] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-415693.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:10] Evening,people..How's everyone's morning/afternoon/night? [19:10] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-415693.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:10] so I suppose its been done already [19:10] In a bash script, $1 is the first argument right? [19:10] MLanden: fine [19:10] Good to hear,bakednoodle [19:11] lannders (n=lannders@107-149.126-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:11] ccfreak2k: $0=script name $1...$9 directly accessible cli arguments (more if you use shift) [19:12] Yes, I remember now. [19:13] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:14] So,what's the topic with debian? [19:14] Is there a way to reset a tty if your display gets garbled after, say, dropping an ncurses interface into the background? [19:15] installing it onto a new ARM platform [19:15] I seem to remember reading something about that, once upon a time, but I cannot remember where [19:15] I think that one had to do with resetting following an attempt to view a binary file, but I figure the same trick may fix both. [19:16] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: "You can't fire me....." [19:16] bakednoodle: usually though you need a boot loader for the specific device. [19:16] bakednoodle: they must have one, but I'd like to see someone else customise everything first before putting any time into it [19:16] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] but with 1.2GHz CPU I'd like to get one - that'd really cut down my compile times - they're not *too* bad at the moment since I use distcc to several cross compilers [19:17] but all the linking, well an everything else, is done natively so it's slow [19:17] othermindszine (n=othermin@120.sub-70-192-217.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:17] if I could get my hands on one I would gladly help with whatever I could [19:17] I'd like to try it [19:18] MrHayes: "reset" [19:18] MrHales, ^^ [19:19] No joy, I'll just reboot... [19:19] Thanks, though. [19:19] :-/ np [19:20] bakednoodle: well go ahead :) [19:20] heh [19:20] let me get the money for it [19:20] bakednoodle: I guess you could access its flash via usb - they may have some required filesystem/partition layout where /boot is [19:20] Well, at least I've got my ssd formatted and repartitioned. I just failed to premount the sd card with my slackware packages on it. Sort of ass-u-me'd that setup would find them. [19:20] yes [19:20] the layout was something like jffs [19:21] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:21] bakednoodle: and you can easily install armedslack onto it by extracting the core packages by modifying this ftp://ftp.armedslack.org/armedslack/armedslack-current/slackware/tinstall.sh [19:21] slava_dp (n=slava@167-186.static.alkar.net) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [19:21] but first you check what it has for /etc/fstab [19:22] anyway, I'm going to bed -- if you get one and get it working, email mozes at slackware.com and tell me how :-) [19:22] night! [19:23] woohoo! government sales tax rebate on my computer! [19:23] cool [19:23] Action: NyteOwl downlaods the forms [19:23] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [19:23] thanks MoZes [19:24] Ill let you know what I decide [19:25] Hey guys I have just installed slackware 12.2 (full install). I come from Ubuntu background. I have an ATI Radeon HD 3450 graphics cards and two samsung 22" monitors. I would like to get dual monitors working. At the moment it is cloned output. I suspect I am going to need to install the correct graphic card driver and then somehow configure the dual monitor setup. Can anyone help me with this or point me in the right direct [19:25] ion ? [19:26] yep [19:26] fglrx [19:26] Dusty: install the fglrx drivers from the ati website [19:27] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [19:27] ok [19:27] I'll do that now. Thank you. [19:27] welcome [19:27] I would install those [19:27] Then would I just configure the dual monitor the normal way, via aticonfig ? [19:27] correct [19:27] aticonfig --inital=dual-head [19:28] Yeah, i've done it before on debian. [19:28] Sweet :-] [19:28] Thanks for the help. [19:28] no problem [19:28] slackware is a lot smoother/faster on this machine that ubuntu or debian were. [19:28] thats a nice start [19:28] don't worry, your secret is safe with us [19:28] well [19:28] ;-] [19:28] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [19:28] I aint used slackware since 3.x iirc. [19:29] I think Slack by default is kinda slow to start [19:29] so I change things in /etc/rc.d/rc.M [19:29] such as ? [19:29] Halt! [19:29] bakednoodle, use the fglrx package from slackbuilds.org. [19:29] the initial first boot is slower because of the key generation too [19:29] I use the fglrx package from the ATI website [19:29] as well as any initial udev action [19:30] By the way, I am a gnome guy myself. Never really liked the default KDE look or appeal. What do you guys use? (I know gnome was kept out of slackware and understand the reasons behind this) so I am open to ideas regarding the desktop of choice [19:30] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit." [19:30] E17 [19:30] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [19:30] nullboy, was it you or someone else that shaved off 14 seconds from boot time? [19:30] Whats the deal with E17? [19:30] I love E17 [19:30] ccfreak2k, Why from slackbuilds and not ATI ? [19:30] othermindszine (n=othermin@120.sub-70-192-217.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [19:30] bakednoodle, any reason why ? [19:30] I don't have any problems when using the driver from the ATI website [19:31] only reason I could see is they put something special in the buildscript [19:31] but I haven't had any problems [19:31] dusty: there a a few options for GNOME. Dropline is probably the most mature but Gware has a moderate following as well [19:31] I understand that, but I want a change. [19:31] I have used dropline gnome before. [19:31] Wojo (i=wojo@chello087206253139.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:31] install E17 [19:31] I wondered what long time slackers used? [19:31] I am checking their site out now bakednoodle. [19:31] grab the linuxpackages build [19:32] slacke17 [19:32] dusty: well you could do what Old_Fogie did and compile his own :) [19:32] bakednoodle, can I see a screen shot of a cluttered screen please ? [19:32] nononononono linuxpackages [19:32] heh [19:32] slacke17.. [19:32] my e17 has been around for longer heh [19:32] I can show you a screen of my somewhat cluttered E17 desktop [19:32] I use flux is I cant use E17 [19:33] I can't get E17 to work under Slamd64 [19:33] dusty: most of us use Slackbuilds.org or write our own scripts if need be. in a pinch i have been known to use checkinstall [19:33] Wojo (i=wojo@chello087206253139.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [19:33] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:33] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:33] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:33] bakednoodle: my scripts work [19:33] hahah [19:33] caixabox_ (n=elcio@caixabox.broker.freenet6.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:34] I've never built E17 from CVS [19:34] bakednoodle, slamd64 ?? [19:34] Installing ati driver.... [19:34] Slackware's Unofficial 64-bit port [19:34] oh [19:34] anyone used a Linksys SR224G switch? [19:34] I have a Q6600 [19:34] ok installed, time to configure fingers crossed [19:35] GL,dusty [19:35] it should work [19:35] I can't get the newer drivers to compile on my HTPC because of some ACPI changes in the kernel [19:36] Ok, configured.. ctrl+alt+del hopefully be right back ;-] [19:36] err backspace ;-] [19:36] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:36] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:37] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:37] today i was at a client site and they were claiming random network connectivity issues. i tracked it down to a faulty patch cable that was plugged into their main switch. when this cable was plugged in only 2 switch ports would work and when it was removed all ports worked fine [19:37] freaking odd one [19:38] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.18.47) joined ##slackware. [19:38] nullboy: sure it was the cable and not the jack it was plugged into? [19:38] i took that cable, cut it into pieces and threw the possessed bits into the trash [19:38] the jack was cool [19:38] very strange [19:39] that was a first for me [19:39] one cable taking out a whole switch [19:39] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [19:39] I was having issues with a domain migration in Chicago this week [19:39] DDOS cat5 cable? [19:39] nullboy: internal intermittant short [19:39] lol [19:39] Turned out half the machines ran XP SP1 [19:39] bakednoodle, the slackbuild allows you to switch the Mesa binaries between the fglrx and normal versions. [19:39] straterra: hahaha [19:39] ah [19:39] and lots of the stuff I installed/was using needed SP2 or newer [19:39] THAT pissed me off [19:39] thanks for pointing that out [19:39] bakednoodle, if you use KDE, it also adds a kdesu item for the ATI Catalyst Control Center. [19:40] straterra: I know a place that's using XPSP1. their custome software won't work on SP2 [19:40] Fuck that [19:40] I use the fglrx binaries for 3d accel [19:40] Seriously [19:40] good gosh that's horrible [19:40] SP1 is a PITA [19:40] yup [19:40] because that machine happens to be HTPC [19:40] I'd rather use 2000 than XP SP1 [19:40] does stock huge smp kernel support sd cards? [19:40] MrHales: it should yes [19:41] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:41] hmm, maybe it doesn't like me plugging after boot... [19:41] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:41] we'll just reboot and see what happens then. [19:41] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Network is unreachable [19:42] I inserted the sd card after boot, the system seemed to recognize it (sdb, sdb1 in dmesg|tail) but when I went to mount the thing, it was not there [19:43] MrHales: does it list in fdisk -l [19:43] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:43] its rebooting [19:43] initrd.img takes forever [19:44] what is it booting off? [19:44] thumb drive [19:44] poor throughput? [19:44] hopefully the SSD is faster [19:44] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [19:44] ssd slow on write, fast on access [19:46] fdisk -l shows only the blank, internal ssd [19:46] hmm [19:46] this is an expansion... gets picked up by usb [19:46] Wojo_ (i=wojo@chello087206253139.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [19:46] MrHales, not all ssds are made equal, there are ssds that are really fast writting and less fast than usual reading too [19:47] Intel's SSD's a decent but oooooh the price [19:47] jota-_ (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [19:47] s/a/are/ [19:47] i'm waiting for 120-160GB SSDs to become more affordable so i can stop trashing normal disks in my laptop while i'm driving or riding on pub transportation [19:47] This is the 4G one that comes in the Eee PC 900a [19:47] NyteOwl, someone has to pay for all those itanium engineers [19:47] that I can see [19:47] i've destroyed 2 160GB hard disks so far [19:48] speed bumps suck [19:48] nachox: LOL, yeah [19:48] Just me a matter of time,nullboy [19:48] yep [19:48] be*=me [19:48] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:48] odd... never booted from USB before, but why doesn't the usb stick show in /dev either? [19:48] lol itanium.....un-itanium [19:49] (before today, that is) [19:49] MrHales: usb booting is a strange beast...it's initially bios driven [19:49] oh, wait, what is that? hold on [19:49] so when the system comes up the stick was only used to load the initrd and fs [19:49] nullboy, isnt all booting initially bios driven? :) [19:50] nachox: gah! [19:50] the kernel needs to be built and/or the initrd needs to be set up for USB booting, (hardware support) [19:50] nachox: only at first :P [19:50] the stick is just a conduit [19:50] Action: nachox runs before nullboy starts stabbing people [19:50] Ha! my vgrep is bad, its there, now [19:50] Wojo (i=wojo@chello087206253139.chello.pl) left irc: Connection timed out [19:51] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:54] bakednoodle (n=bakednoo@ppp-69-227-142-1.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net) left irc: " HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC" [19:55] http://www.cgisecurity.com/2009/01/bofhloving-botmaster-wants-life-as-security-consultant.html [19:55] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-415693.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:56] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [19:57] I sewe there is a new commercial app out there now to spam Twitter [19:59] hmm...twitter spam [20:02] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:02] Nick change: Strykar_ -> Strykar [20:02] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [20:02] OK guys that didn't work at all :( [20:02] it messed it up, so much i had to hard reboot. [20:03] I did aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=left, restarted X and it went to a black screen and white screen and wouldn't respond to anything - had to reboot. [20:03] Anyone know what I have done wrong ? [20:06] oh boy internets in the kitchen!! comparing chili recipes [20:06] freaking love my router, i can connect from the basement, and outside [20:07] nix_chix0r: welcome to 2009 [20:07] yehah i finally set it up. [20:07] was a housewarming gift [20:08] what router? [20:08] Can anyone help me get my ATI Radeon HD 3450 and dual monitors working please ? 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[20:28] XpliCT (n=rumenovs@77.29.162.119) left irc: [20:28] taub (n=taub@ip-80-226-15-197.vodafone-net.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:29] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [20:30] MLanden1 (n=mello@pool-70-18-157-137.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] n0on3 (n=n0on3@93.40.177.249) joined ##slackware. [20:32] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-45.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:33] anyone use ati graphics card? [20:33] XpliCT (n=rumenovs@77.29.162.119) joined ##slackware. [20:34] yep [20:34] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:35] alisonken1 (n=alisonke@38.99.247.89) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/" [20:35] I do. Also got the dual screens working. [20:35] me too [20:35] MLanden (n=mello@pool-72-82-76-206.nrflva.east.verizon.net) left irc: Network is unreachable [20:35] twolf: are you using the free driver or the binary one? [20:36] I am using the binary driver [20:36] well how did you get it working ? [20:36] which cards by the way ? [20:36] I got dual 24 [20:36] i have the radeon 3450 [20:36] twolf: So, does the video overlay work on all parts of the dual-monitors? [20:36] nice [20:36] The binary blob driver should give you an option to configure it if you choose to use it. [20:37] I got the 4850 card [20:37] I am happy with it [20:37] I couldn't get the video overlay working on my screens (a 22" and a 24") [20:38] That could be a function of the card, but it works fine with the FOSS driver. [20:38] XpliCT (n=rumenovs@77.29.162.119) left irc: "shutdown -h now" [20:38] Action: MLanden1 **test** [20:38] I have two 22" samsung screen,s I tried aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=left but it didn't work, i used the official ati linux driver for my card, sh ./ati... any ideas why it work break it? basically one screen was black one was white and they frooze the whole machine ? [20:40] fglrx is missing some features, IIRC. ATI didn't like providing Linux support until AMD took them over. [20:40] You could try aticccle (I think that's what it's called), which is graphical. That is, if you can get one screen working. [20:42] i can't get it to work at all [20:43] i've tried all the different aticonfig settings they all result with the same effect [20:43] Rufus (n=youare@NTL208H90-240-21.nt.net) joined ##slackware. [20:43] I used the fglrx and used amdcccle and chose the dual monitor setup from the menu and it worked [20:44] NaCl: I am not sure what the video overlay is [20:44] twolf, ok so you installed it by running the script sh ./ati.. then you used aticonfig right? what commads did you specify to get at least one screen working [20:44] dusty: you may need to use something like xorgconfig or xorgsetup to get an initial xorg.conf ready, then use amdcccle to set up the dual monitor setup from there [20:45] i am in the default X setup now both screens work just clones [20:45] dusty: I installed then ran amdcccle [20:45] dusty: with amdccle you can chose clone or separate desktops [20:45] ok running script again [20:46] twolf: I mean, try to make a video play full screen on either screen. When I used the fglrx drivers, the video was cut in half on one of the screens. [20:46] ok installed it [20:46] running amdccle [20:46] that erros saying the fglrx driver is not installed [20:46] NaCl: no I didn't have that problem, so it seems to be working for me [20:46] It could be my card, its a 9550 running on a P4 box. [20:47] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [20:47] yeah I got one of the newer cards, so that could be it [20:47] guys how do i get this working? [20:47] dusty: first you will need to get fglrx installed [20:48] bbiab [20:48] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [20:48] ok well i run the script it said it installed correctly, do i need to restart X first then run amdccle? [20:48] dusty: yeah [20:48] it is amdcccle [20:48] but thats where the problem is i exit X then run startx and it doesn't go into X [20:48] twolf: You didn't have to tweak xorg.conf first? [20:48] it crashes and freezes and i have to reboot [20:48] what tweaks? [20:49] NaCl: nope, I ran X -configure then copied the xorg.conf over then installed fglrx [20:49] Action: NaCl hasn't used fglrx in a while [20:49] twolf, tell me what i need to do [20:50] as i done it before and it crashed my box [20:50] dusty: I would do what I said above, X -configure, copy xorg.conf to /etc/X11 then install fglrx, startx, then run amdcccle [20:50] hi guys [20:50] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE7D9F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [20:50] hi Gatto [20:51] ok i got an idea brb [20:51] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:51] MLanden1 (n=mello@pool-70-18-157-137.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. 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[21:17] is there some method under linux to purposely slow down a dvd drive so that it doesn't sound like a turbine engine when you try to watch a dvd? [21:19] Install an old dvd drive? [21:19] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] If you have a spare bay and your power supply is good for it and you happen to have one laying around, of course. [21:21] the you loose functionality though. we can set burn speeds so there has to be a way to just force a certain speed [21:21] the/then [21:21] i could change the optical gut in my laptop's dvd module but older modules aren't DL [21:21] erg [21:21] somebody do me a favour and dig sun.com [21:22] the nameserver here is screwed [21:22] i need the ipaddress [21:22] 72.5.124.61 [21:22] my slack 12.2 show me in the dmesg udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth2, why this? [21:22] thanks null [21:22] Zygocactus: there is a udev rule that is doing that [21:22] Nick change: nahmin -> nahminAfk [21:23] you can just delete that rule [21:23] how? please! [21:23] look in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [21:23] just remove the whole rule that mentions eth2 but leave the eth0 rule [21:25] have one rule, but dont say eth2, but say kernel=="eth*", name="eth1" action=="add" eg. [21:25] etc [21:25] Zygocactus: can you paste your 70-persistent-net.rules file? http://pastebin.slackadelic.com [21:26] wait, please. [21:30] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:30] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:31] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10670 [21:31] done. look to me, nullboy . [21:32] ShKoDrAnI (n=ShKoDrAn@77.242.17.27) joined ##slackware. [21:32] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10671 [21:32] make it like that instead [21:35] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-45.dial.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:36] hum...ok...rebooting system now. [21:36] well, and without rule? eth0 , eth1 work normal? [21:43] status? [21:44] it recognized eth0 and eth1 normally. [21:45] indeed it did. [21:51] Ah the plight of a Slacker in a Windoze town... [21:51] I end up pimping Macs. [21:51] *Anything* but Vista.. for the love of all that's holy, not VISTA!!! [21:52] i worked on a vista business laptop today [21:52] I'm sorry. [21:52] Need a hug? [21:53] i need a beer [21:53] I have no beer, but I have some obscenely inexpensive vodka and Gentleman Jack [21:54] You can have the vodka. I have this thing against drinking rubbing alcohol. [21:54] Well, I installed way more packages than I required on my EeePC, but too much is always better than not enough. [21:55] Action: MrHales checks his EeePC dvd... [21:57] darn [22:00] n0on3 (n=n0on3@93.40.177.249) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:00] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:03] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:06] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:07] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.77.48.213) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:08] ezra_ (i=ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. [22:08] It's alive! It's ALIVE!!! [22:08] Why is it, though, that I have two Tux's? [22:09] MrHales: smp? [22:09] Intel Atom [22:09] Does that have more than one core? [22:10] ShKoDrAnI (n=ShKoDrAn@77.242.17.27) left irc: [22:11] hyper threading [22:11] the atom has it [22:11] Ah [22:11] Either my eyes are going, or my screen fonts are fuzzy... [22:11] on this box, that is, not the wee one [22:12] hmm... [22:16] "fuzzy" as in anti-aliased, sub-pixel hinting? heheh i like it like that.... [22:17] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Say good night to the bad guy." [22:17] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.18.47) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:17] "say goodnight to the bad buy. it's the last time you're gonna see one dressed like this." --tony montana [22:17] Zadachgoodya (i=446affa5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c195ddfbd41c1185) joined ##slackware. [22:18] I thought mibbit was banned.. ? [22:18] rworkman: xfce-ping :> [22:18] Nick change: Urchlay_ -> Urchlay [22:21] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) joined ##slackware. [22:21] fuzzy as in anti-aliased to the point I should be drunk. Then at least when things look fuzzy, I feel okay about it. [22:22] wow.. 12.2.. it's been ages since ive touched a slack system [22:22] i think last time i did was 10 or so.. i bought a book once that had slack 7 with it [22:23] Zadachgoodya: good wow, or bad wow? :) [22:24] more liek "omg im old" wow [22:24] im glad to see its going so well.. long time ago i thought i read the founder was really sick/ill? [22:24] man.. where does the time go [22:25] Zadachgoodya: congratulations. you have crossed over into a new plane of existence. [22:25] yea.. i guess [22:25] must have been under a rock all these years [22:25] that and being force fed red hate at work [22:26] i frogot what a real OS looks like [22:26] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:26] Nick change: ezra_ -> ezrafree [22:26] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:27] thrice`: pong; already packaged (I've been using it since last night), and will be made public tomorrow. I have a non-official package of 4.6.0 (based on last nights pre-release sources), but the mousepad version got bumped during the day today, so I had to rebuild [22:28] rworkman: any hackish things necessary as with previous, for icons or anything? [22:28] I'd be more interrested in .SlackBuild than package :> [22:30] thrice`: yes, Rodent theme is not shipped. Defaulting to Tango [22:30] (We are defaulting it to Tango) [22:30] Kerio2004 (n=Port@77.64.32.7) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:30] Basically, the build script at xfce46.rlworkman.net is what you need [22:30] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [22:31] (with the relevant changes for non-svn sources) [22:31] AIEE!!! [22:31] erm, hi. [22:31] rworkman: yep, I've been following closely :) just tired and want it to go first-try :) [22:31] FUCKOFF! [22:31] er, hello, godling [22:31] :( [22:32] rworkman: I love you too. [22:32] thrice`: adjust the version numbers for everything, and it should. You can remove the CPPFLAGS hackery to disable debug build -- that's not necessary with reelease sources [22:32] godling: I was half-kidding. ;-) [22:32] uh huh [22:34] jimpy_ (n=james@88-97-9-91.dsl.zen.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:34] raelakoira (n=raela@205.133.227.98) joined ##slackware. [22:37] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:37] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: "leaving" [22:38] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [22:38] raela|alt (n=raela@rrcs-24-39-95-246.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:40] Zadachgoodya (i=446affa5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c195ddfbd41c1185) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [22:40] rworkman: roger. no libxfce4ui? [22:42] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-87-146.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. 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It isn't part of the release, regardless [22:54] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:54] Nick change: briareus_ -> briareus [22:54] rworkman: ok, so 21 tarballs? I was going crazy :> [22:55] yes, 21 [22:56] and, you like it? [22:56] Yes. [22:56] I've been using svn snapshots for... long time. [22:56] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [22:57] i've at least tried them since beta3, but have reverted until your post-rc1 snapshot [22:58] Once I came to terms with the fact that xfce4-icon-theme was a steaming pile of shit in its current state, all was well. [22:58] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [22:58] (you notice that it wasn't even shipped with 4.6.0) :) [22:58] indeed :( [22:59] I'm not sure if it's in my sources that are public, but here's what you need for that: [22:59] sed -i s/Rodent/Tango/ $PKG/etc/xfce/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xsettings.xml [23:00] anyway, afk again for a while [23:02] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [23:06] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Connection reset by peer [23:08] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:08] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [23:11] once I've changed the link from elvis to vim, do I "require" elvis any longer? [23:11] Nope. [23:11] I don't even install it by default. [23:11] Excellent, thanks. [23:11] :-) [23:11] r0b_ (n=r0b@pool-71-244-143-78.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:11] elvis is smaller than vim, so that's why Pat puts it in a/. It could really be moved these days. [23:12] vim's pretty not lightweight, I guess, but it's what I'm used to. [23:14] MLanden (n=mello@pool-207-68-51-5.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:15] first time i used elvis looked like this :ESC(*&^%$#@htrgdcfggghedfsh ::q www [23:16] r0b (n=r0b@unaffiliated/r0b) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:16] Nick change: r0b_ -> r0b [23:17] Evening(or morning/afternoonish),people..What's up? [23:19] *cricket chirp* [23:20] Jon Stewart is on TV right now so nobody is at their computers. [23:20] *three more crickets join in* [23:21] Action: tank-man has a mythtv setup :) [23:21] i can watch him any time [23:22] people still watch tv? [23:22] not me [23:23] ! people still use tv?!?! [23:23] Action: eviljames <3 VHS. [23:24] the only stuff that comes out of my coax is teh intarwebz [23:28] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) got netsplit. 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[23:30] capone (i=capone@la-cosa-nostra.org) returned to ##slackware. [23:30] ph|ber (n=phiber@8.7.103.195) returned to ##slackware. [23:31] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-76-104-183-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] Large number of people eaten by grue [23:32] grue then got sick from overeating [23:32] and all the people came back. [23:32] :-D [23:32] OK,MrHales [23:34] C00re (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) got lost in the net-split. [23:34] skibur (i=1000@12.197.205.184) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [23:34] zxh (n=red@218.26.164.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:35] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:35] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: No route to host [23:35] ....and this Grue,MrHales....Is it with you right now? [23:36] Why, no, or it would have eaten me, as well. [23:36] What a silly question. [23:36] Action: MLanden looks around to make sure [23:37] I've written a c++ program that uses a long unsigned int to store a 32 bit number. In unix everything works as planned. When i run it in linux, however, it has some kind of memory problem or something and the number drops to zero somewhere near the end of the calculation. [23:37] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: No route to host [23:39] what is "some kind of memory problem" exactly? [23:39] C00re (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) joined ##slackware. [23:40] Wow. That was some good lightning. It sounded like the train was derailing. [23:42] Lightning,MrHales? Where? [23:43] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-106-158.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [23:46] hiptobecubic: what type of unix? [23:47] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:47] Illinois [23:47] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] Sorry, was working on bitty box [23:48] dry and cool here in eastern Virginia [23:48] I got a buddy sorta near there. [23:48] superGear (n=superGea@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: [23:49] Carolina... I can't remember which one, nor what Fort [23:49] cool [23:49] Trained at Leonard Wood, stationed... is it Bragg? [23:49] I think Bragg, NC [23:49] dunno [23:51] http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=93003 [23:51] Yeah, it's Bragg. [23:51] anyone know where I'd find the freeciv executable after installing it from SBo? [23:51] sunny california....except on sunday [23:52] it's not in /usr/games or /usr/local/games [23:52] briareus: cat /var/log/packages/freeciv* perhaps [23:52] briareus: which? [23:52] find? [23:52] briareus: that should tell you what is part of that package. [23:52] I'm running updatedb to run locate after [23:52] doesnt show up in which [23:52] thanks eviljames [23:52] you aren't evil that I can tell [23:52] Some days I help [23:52] Other days I mock. [23:53] Curling is on TV right now, so I'm peaceful I guess. [23:53] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.152.196) left irc: "leaving" [23:53] It's hard to be mad while watching a game this slow.. [23:53] eviljames = 333 (half evil) [23:53] hm. [23:53] AH, tahnks eviljames I was looking for a 'freeciv' when its actually 'civclient' [23:54] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] If it installed a desktop file then /usr/bin/udpate-desktop-database -q /usr/share/applications [23:54] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011912]" [23:59] Well that wasn't much of a storm. [23:59] A couple flashes, one brilliant, and now: nothing. [23:59] Like my brain activity on an average day. 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