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[00:09] LITesterB (i=nobody@CPE001cf0f641f7-CM000a7365ada2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:10] redtricycle, you don't generally but some functions only work as root [00:10] -sP [00:11] ? [00:11] Stik_ (n=Don@c-76-104-165-86.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:11] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:11] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] wescotte (n=wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:13] starnge that should work as user [00:13] what other switches you using? [00:15] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:16] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.124.36) joined ##slackware. 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[00:29] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:30] redtricycle, it should work as user. It's only a quick ping scan to see if host is online - nothing major [00:30] redtricycle, are you using any other switches? [00:30] No, that's just it [00:30] -sP 192.168.1.0/24 [00:31] I have no problems with it [00:31] what error? [00:32] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [00:34] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:36] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:36] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:36] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.124.36) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:37] lechiffre (n=lechiffr@59.92.122.127) joined ##slackware. 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[00:59] na - tangerines [01:00] well [01:00] looks like I'll need another slackpkg upgrade-all [01:01] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-174-54-122-211.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:01] alisonken1: does slapt-get work like yum? if you're familiar with that [01:02] I'm familiar with slapt-get - that's why I stopped using it. it's apt-get for slackware [01:02] oh, so it'll still inadvertently update/break things lol [01:02] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-174-54-122-211.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:03] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [01:03] the dependency checking is only as good as whoever put the package together and added the dependencies to the slackware.info (whichever text file it is) [01:03] speaking of slackpack.. are there any guis for it? trying make it things slightly easier for a non techy friend to use slackware [01:04] not that I'm aware of - but some updates should not be done from gui anyways [01:04] alisonken1noc, true [01:05] Nick change: The_NaCl -> NaCl [01:06] slackpkg work with slackbuilds.org as well? [01:06] BadAtom_ (n=epigramm@badatom.org) left irc: Client Quit [01:06] sbopkg is the recommended slackbuilds.org tool [01:06] epigrammaticus (n=epigramm@supporter/active/BadAtom) joined ##slackware. [01:06] Nick change: epigrammaticus -> BadAtom [01:06] http://www.sbopkg.org/ [01:07] wescotte: you just make that non techy friend buy you beer to maintain the system [01:07] free_fx (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:08] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-174-54-122-211.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:08] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:08] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@c-174-54-122-211.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:08] antiwire: yeah I think that might be the best thing to do.. I'll feel it out if they can grasp basic command line stuff [01:09] just run ssh in presentation mode [01:09] make them watch [01:09] ssh/screen [01:09] wescotte, is your friend a patient person? [01:09] yeah that might work too [01:10] yeah but I dunno if I have enough free time to teach them :) [01:11] wescotte: i started using slackware 3 days ago [01:11] I've got my mother in law and a 70 y/o grandpa on slackware - haven't had to do much maintaining with their systems [01:11] if your friend can read, he'll be alright [01:11] Chances are I won't have to touch it until I decide to upgrade to the latest release anywa.. [01:11] and if you knew my m.o.l. ........ [01:11] sorry - m.i.l. .... [01:12] functionoverform: use any linux before slack? [01:12] wescotte: fedora.. which was like linux for retards, i'm finding out [01:12] i mean [01:12] its just really easy [01:12] to get everything working [01:13] yeah I have slack on my parents machine too.. I just upgrade the release and add a few apps they might need but for the most part it's never touched [01:14] I've worked 80 hours over 5 days [01:14] antiwire: what are you working on? [01:14] i r hurted [01:15] voip system [01:15] antiwire: been there done that hurting is good :) [01:15] a massive new install [01:15] just remember it's growing pains and it will get all better [01:15] at least keep telling yourself that :) [01:15] haha [01:16] wescotte, what wm/de did you install on your parent's machine? [01:16] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:16] antiwire, alisonken1noc and i'm sure you were both compensated handsomely compensated for your efforts :) [01:16] MLanden: KDE [01:16] s/compensated// [01:17] hiptobecubic: Uncle Sam doesn't have much in the way of extra compensation :) [01:17] wescotte, cool...how they like it? [01:18] MLanden: They've gotten used to it for the most part.. The upgrade to KDE4 took a little getting used to for them though [01:19] for the most part they just browse the web anyway so they don't really do a whole lot with it [01:20] wescotte, right..good to hear [01:22] mujahid (n=gabriel@189.120.130.32) joined ##slackware. [01:22] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-173-095-153-076.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:25] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [01:26] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "Bored by the chore of saving face." [01:26] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [01:30] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [01:31] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:35] crn_ (n=crn@mail.netunix.com) joined ##slackware. [01:39] yomom (n=2007@122-124-140-225.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. 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[02:13] no new kde4 builds? :) [02:14] doing great, thanks, had a blizzard today here. :P I'm just messing with kde 4.4 rc2 [02:14] lol [02:15] lol yuh we had warm temps but rain all day winds 30mph+ winds are ok now tho [02:15] yeah, winds were very strong here today, many times was complete whiteout conditions. [02:15] melted/evaporated some snow,tg no icestorm [02:16] indeed we had similar weather last week [02:16] There's still quite a bit of snow on the ground here, and it snowed a bit today too, not much, but enough to create a blizzard. [02:16] suppose to dip to 2F overnight and a high of 13F tomorrow. [02:17] wescotte (n=wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:17] think thurs its zero degrees,altho this weeks like well above norm [02:17] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:18] later this week it's suppose to get back in to the 20's [02:18] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-108-212-75.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:18] darkwurm (n=atyrelyo@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [02:18] Mefached (n=jonathan@c-75-64-148-127.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:18] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "Bored by the chore of saving face." [02:18] yuh weather cycles have been erratic,thats for sure 46F here atm [02:19] 7F here atm, -15F with windchill. [02:19] winds gusting to about 33 [02:19] thats cold for you no doubt [02:20] sections of the Interstates around here are even closed, and, worse yet, some areas are without power, the strong winds literally snapped poles in half. [02:20] power* [02:20] err, I spelled that right the first time. :P [02:20] yes,same here earlier [02:20] Mefached (n=jonathan@c-75-64-148-127.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:21] Axius (n=fd@92.82.95.236) joined ##slackware. [02:21] In one town, there's 100 students staying at the school, the conditions are too dangerous to allow them to go home, so the school notified all the parents, etc. [02:21] wow [02:22] Been an uncomfortable 8C... no snow to ride :( [02:23] Rat409: yeah, hopefully they'll be able to get home tomorrow, I think this system is suppose to be out of here. [02:23] yes i hope so [02:26] Rat409: still messing with the new weechat version? [02:27] yes,set it up not many changes atm [02:28] i still like irssi but have to admint once used to this version,i like it better than the weechat 0.2.x versions [02:29] lots of features thats for sure [02:29] no, not many, but a few changes. Yeah, I've been messing with it myself and like it quite well, good to see it's development so active. [02:30] hfjardim (n=hfjardim@78.150.198.29) joined ##slackware. [02:30] I have the chanmon script going, the buffers one going, so I have 3-4 panes to it. I need to adjust the colors a bit more with it though. [02:30] indeed. the irssi developer was helping flashtux in past. i think they still collaborate,not positive tho. [02:30] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [02:31] fire|bird: i have the url-grabber script,pretty nice [02:31] oh yeah, I was gonna try that one, then forgot. :P [02:32] It doesn't have quite as many scripts as irssi, but what it does have are pretty good. [02:32] Have you tried the weeget script at all for managing scripts? [02:33] no i just grabbed ones i wanted from weechat.org but will use it to update,check in future [02:33] brb [02:33] i do have it installed [02:33] k [02:35] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-21.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:36] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:39] fire|bird: found a new (to me) kde4 konsole colorscheme fwiw http://briancarper.net/page/kde [02:39] u-neeks (i=u-neeks@201-88-28-128.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [02:40] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [02:42] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.207) left irc: [02:43] Rat409: ccol, thanks, that looks nice. [02:43] hah - my wife might like that one; she's partial to cow spots [02:43] lol [02:43] now all I need to do is get her to use _her_ login rather than keep using mine [02:44] he has a gentooish vim colorscheme also,some emacs stuff too [02:45] alisonken1noc: haha [02:45] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:50] alisonken1noc: you should setup xcowsay,its kinda cool,least 1 or 2 tomes [02:50] /s/tomes/times sorry [02:52] alisonken1noc: http://www.doof.me.uk/xcowsay/ [02:52] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:52] Rat409: might want to make a slackbuild for it and see if it can be included in slackbuilds.org [02:53] good idea [02:53] Axius (n=fd@92.82.95.236) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:56] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/games/cowsay/ [02:57] cool,thanks :) [02:57] you're welcome [02:58] alisonken1noc: maybe she needs this background too? http://briancarper.net/screenshots/2009/2009-03-21.png :P [02:58] u-neeks_ (i=u-neeks@201-34-235-190.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:59] darkwurm_ (n=atyrelyo@74-60-30-141.eug.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [03:00] well,i'll work on it tommorow,starting to nod a bit . night guys,thanks fire|bird . [03:00] fire|bird: I just may give that one to her :) [03:00] night alisonken1noc [03:00] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("="). [03:00] nite [03:00] TIC_PP (n=tropical@203.144.95.151) joined ##slackware. [03:02] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.78.190) joined ##slackware. [03:02] wow, the guy on that site's .vimrc is 524 lines [03:04] hayaka (n=kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:04] is he making a vim os? [03:04] :) [03:04] $ wc -l .vimrc [03:04] 579 .vimrc [03:04] I can hear it now - the o/s wars: vim v. emacs [03:04] lol [03:05] alisonken1noc: yeah, emacs is a nice os, if only they could make a decent text editor. :P [03:05] hah [03:06] good grief Urchlay [03:06] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-108-212-75.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [03:07] fire|bird: that's not including a couple external shell & perl scripts that get executed from functions in .vimrc either [03:07] wow [03:07] but about half of .vimrc is comments, I have to leave myself notes on how the hell it works because vim's scripting language is less than readable [03:07] Urchlay: you shall now be known as massive|vimrc [03:08] to wit: imap ^[:read !date "+\%Y\%m\%d $(cat ~/.initials \|\| echo '[ put your initials in the file ~/.initials ]'): "^M==kJA [03:09] (actually that's almost readable due to the long error message) [03:10] heh, without a comment I'd go nuts trying to read my own code here (can anyone else figure out what it does just by looking?) [03:10] nmap k/\(if\\|while\\|for\)/^Mw%ldwi {^M^[o}^[ [03:10] the ^M and ^[ are literal carriage return and escape [03:11] TIC_PP (n=tropical@203.144.95.151) left irc: Client Quit [03:12] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:16] darkwurm (n=atyrelyo@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:16] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:17] bleah, nobody cares :( [03:18] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-182.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:18] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [03:19] lol [03:19] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:19] so bored I just now saw that guy talking about xcowsay and made him a slackbuild [03:20] haha, cool. [03:20] grazymax (n=grazymax@host180-1-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:21] grazymax (n=grazymax@host170-3-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:22] alreadygone (n=silas@59.103.206.200) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:27] hey guys, so i downloaded vlc.. and its not exactly working very well.. [03:27] aka, ./configure gives me a couple errors and warnings.. not liking that.. [03:28] i think i need a slackbuild.. [03:29] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vlc/pkg/13.0/ [03:30] actually, http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vlc/ and pick one [03:30] functionoverform: hey, good to see you again [03:30] what's goin on man, i'm just trying to get vlc workin [03:30] i found a slackbuild, but its not actually a file.. so i'm pasting it into a text editor and saving it as vlc.slackbuild [03:30] functionoverform: ^^ definitely, alien has a lot of pre-built pkgs [03:30] visit nooper's link [03:31] and download the vlc package [03:31] you dont have to build it yourself [03:31] "not actually a file"? [03:31] lol.. shhh [03:31] i'm 3 days in [03:32] its actually a file [03:32] i think i get it [03:32] hang on [03:33] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:35] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:35] alright, well it appears as if i've done this correctly [03:35] excluding that fact that i either need yasm [03:35] or i could disable it [03:35] which should have been part of the full install of slackware I believe [03:36] hmm.. well i used the full install when i installed it [03:36] or then again, maybe not [03:36] i dunno, i guess i'll find that real quick [03:36] yasm (0.8.0-x86_64-1_SBo) <- ok, not part of slackware install :) [03:37] yeah i'm grabbing it [03:37] i googled. [03:37] sbopkg is nice in that regard [03:38] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-108-212-75.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:39] jackiexx (n=jackie@174-152-70-80.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [03:39] jackiexx (n=jackie@174-152-70-80.pools.spcsdns.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:39] yasm-0.8 is also in extra/ [03:40] ok - and there's a plug for slackpkg and extra/ :) [03:46] can i even install under a regular user? [03:46] uh oh. [03:46] no permissions.. [03:46] oh man.. i feel like an idiot more and more each day with this slackware.. [03:46] no - it goes into system areas like /usr/lib [03:47] yeah i see that [03:47] functionoverform: to become root: su - [03:47] i knew that at least, thanks though [03:47] "su " [03:47] ok, you said you were new, guess you're not *that* new... [03:47] the dash tells su to change your environment to root so your terminal becomes the same as if you had logged in [03:48] as root [03:48] ohh [03:48] i had actually already done it as su without the dash [03:48] by the time all the commentary happened.. [03:48] does that mean yasm is somehow only going to work under this user now? [03:49] no - it just means that it needs to be installed onto your system as root so it goes into a location that everyone can use [03:50] are you trying to install the download from yasm site or use "slackpkg install yasm" [03:50] i downloaded it [03:50] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-108-212-75.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [03:50] use slackpkg - since it's already part of slackware/extra, it's setup already for your slackware box [03:50] otherwise you may have to tweak the setup on what you downloaded [03:50] the most common annoyance of using "su" instead of "su -" is that a default slackware set doesn't include /sbin or /usr/sbin in a non-root user's PATH [03:51] Urchlay: with "su", there is /sbin as well as /usr/sbin in the path [03:51] so you go "su", then "installpkg whatever", and get "installpkg: command not found", curse for a second, then up-arrow and change it to "/sbin/installpkg whatever"... [03:52] pprkut: not on a bone-stock slackware install there's not (there is on all mine 'cause I have .bash_profile setting it up for me) [03:52] there is [03:53] what's missing are all $PATH extensions and modifications from /etc/profile.d [03:53] slackpkg? [03:53] /etc/profile has that bit: if [ "`id -u`" = "0" ]; [03:54] well, I tell you what I see as fact on my system. And I never had problems with "su" not finding any command [03:55] eh, I might be remembering something from slackware 8.0 (or 3.3 or so), maybe it doesn't apply to 13.0 [03:55] functionoverform: slackpkg tracks the upstream official repository and allows you to upgrade/install over the network [03:55] at least for official packages [03:56] funcitonoverform: don't forget to uncomment the >>proper<< upstream repository in /etc/slackpkg.mirrors file [03:57] and by proper, don't use a slackware repository on a slackware64 system - make sure of your 32/64-bitness and the respository name [03:57] When I try to load up disc one of slackware 13.0, I get the following in qemu-kvm: http://bit.ly/qemu-kvm [03:57] how do I see how much bandwidth other computers on my network are using? [03:58] redtricycle: are you using switches or hubs? [03:58] Um. 2WIRERouter connected to the DSL line [03:58] and are you talking general bandwidth or internet bandwidth? [03:58] That's a hub, right? [03:58] Internet bandwidth [03:59] quick check would be as root "tcpdump -nvi ethX" (x=your interface) and see if you see packets from the other machines [03:59] "other computers" are talking to the internet how? using your linux box as a masquerading gateway, or using the 2wire? [03:59] using the 2wire [03:59] if so, you can run iptraf to keep track of them [04:00] ah [04:00] see if the 2wire supports snmp (doubtful, if it's cheapo consumer crap, but you never know...) [04:01] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-182.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [04:08] hel313 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [04:10] am i doing something wrong here with slackpkg? [04:10] i changed the mirrors file to only include an oregonstate mirror [04:10] but my connection keeps getting refused? [04:10] is it a bad mirror or do i just suck? [04:10] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQp5l4-sfFA :D [04:11] not safe for work, by the way [04:11] anyway, now that i've shared that delicacy with you all, i'm off to bed [04:11] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [04:12] nspluginviewer died on that one :) [04:13] in konqueror at least [04:13] but I bet that's probably due to the lahf bug in flash reader [04:14] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:16] functionoverform: which link did you uncomment in your mirrors file? [04:16] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [04:16] the oregonstate.edu one [04:16] i'm trying a different one real quick here [04:16] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) joined ##slackware. [04:16] working beautifully [04:16] which one? slackware-13.0 or slackware64-13.0? [04:16] 13.0 [04:17] ok - and you're on a 32-bit machine (or not running slackware64 at least)? [04:17] i'm on my laptop from 04, its 512mb ram, 1.8ghz processor [04:18] ok [04:18] and it has my handprints worn into it lol [04:18] just making sure - because several of us linked to slackware when we installed slackware64 :) [04:18] King_Ozzy (n=King_Ozz@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [04:18] alreadygone (n=silas@59.103.215.91) joined ##slackware. [04:18] see. i really wanna install this on my desktop that i built, that inspired me to try linux in the first place because i realized that i would've had to buy a copy of windows.. [04:19] but the damn ipod doesn't work.. so i found an old dell's packaged copy of xp in my dad's office.. and stole it.. [04:19] just for itunes.. [04:20] alrighty, yast/vlc here i come [04:20] someone plz help, when my computer goes to boot under arch linux it stops at the network daemon and says "ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100; ata1: EH complete". all i did was add ndiswrapper to rc.conf [04:21] man, that just means it likes you. [04:21] King_Ozzy: sorry, arch is not slackware [04:21] im at my freaking wits end please help >.< [04:22] there is no rc.conf file - unless you meant rc.inet1.conf [04:23] King_Ozzy: did you try at the #archlinux forum? [04:24] yes [04:25] well, don't be surprised if there isn't a whole lot of help here since not many slackware users also have archlinux installed [04:25] sQuEE (n=narya@190.31.135.217) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:25] there may be a couple, but may not be online right now [04:25] don't know about that ata error stuff? [04:25] sQuEE (n=narya@190.31.135.217) joined ##slackware. [04:26] that doesn't appear to be an error, it's just letting you know that the ata interface is set at udma/100 mode [04:27] i've just never seen it before. know of a good USB live image so i could get back in and edit the thing back? [04:28] might try rebooting and telling it to go to administrator (single user) mode [04:29] alisonken1noc: so now "slackpkg download yasm" isn't working.. i'm wondering if i have to put a 0.8.0 or something in there [04:29] in slackware it's "linux 1" or "linux single" - where linux is the tag for the boot label to start [04:29] functionoverform: hang on let me check [04:29] my options are "Arch Linux" and "Arch Linux Fallback", i can't log in either way [04:29] functionoverform: did you "slackpkg update" first? [04:30] yes [04:31] King_Ozzy: hmm - you can try the archlinux live cd and try from that, otherwise slax live cd might work for you [04:31] functionoverform: what error? [04:31] zecafig (n=zecafig@unaffiliated/zecafig) joined ##slackware. [04:31] alisonken1noc: it just didn't find the package [04:32] ok - does 'slackpkg info yasm" do anything for you? [04:33] if not, try using http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/ for your mirror and comment your oregonstate mirror [04:33] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:33] might be that oregon state doesn't have the /extra directory [04:34] either that, or yasm is in -current/extra and not in 13.0/extra [04:36] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) joined ##slackware. [04:41] no actually [04:42] i had to switch mirrors [04:42] did you make sure to only have 1 mirror uncommented? [04:42] i don't even remember which one i changed to, its in the us [04:42] yeah, like i said [04:42] update worked [04:42] so its functional [04:42] hey alisonken1noc, i'm look at my system from an ubuntu live cd, may i bother you to walk me through mounting the thing? [04:42] what I like to do is copy mirrors to mirrors.orig and only have a one-line file for mirrors so I don't forget [04:43] good idea sir. [04:43] apparently this thing is downloading all kinds of dependencies? i didn't think a slackbuild could do that.. [04:43] the vlc one i mean [04:43] which is the only reason i need yasm [04:44] wow.. this is intense.. but i don't think there's really a more versatile video player out there [04:45] how did you tell it to install vlc? [04:45] well.. i took that slackbuild from that link [04:46] King_Ozzy: the problem is I'm not sure how archlinux does it's filesystems [04:46] and then i put, thinking that i knew what i was doing, remembering from the slackbuild i had to use for chrome [04:46] i put the vlc tar.bz2 file in there [04:47] from ~alien's link or slackbuilds.org? [04:47] alien's link [04:47] matu (n=matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [04:47] ok - his slackbuild may have several d/l files in it then [04:48] especially for the codecs [04:48] yeah it does, its quite the build [04:49] My SlackBuilds always download everything you need for the build [04:49] that's a cool feature man [04:50] I only hope that you also downloaded the .diff and .patch files for the vlc.SlackBuild... not just the SlackBuild [04:50] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:50] King_Ozzy: you may already have it mounted. If I remember correctly, *buntu has a view folder to show mounted partitions and I believe it automounts local drives at boot [04:50] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [04:50] lol.... there i go again, failing. [04:50] it gave me some error [04:50] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427750.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:51] alienBOB: i'll get right on that [04:51] King_Ozzy: what error? [04:51] it said a few, i'm not under the live cd atm one min [04:52] King_Ozzy: remember, if it's more than one or two lines of errors, you need to use a pastebing - slackboy kickbans anyone who posts more than 2 lines at once [04:52] pastebin rather [04:54] alienBOB: so, do i need everything that's in the build/ folder and pkg/ folder of ~alien/slackbuilds/vlc? [04:55] functionoverform: to compile VLC the best thing to do is download the "build" directory. The pkg* directories contain the pre-compiled Slackware packages [04:58] alienBOB: could i have just saved myself alot of trouble just now.. by downloading the pkg and installpkg'ing it? [04:58] >.< [05:00] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [05:00] oh, i love being completely new at stuff.. its like using a hammer instead of a wrench or something.. running a mile because you don't know there's a bus you can take.. [05:01] but i guess you stay fit [05:01] as the saying goes - you learn more from one mistake than 10 successes [05:02] linXea (n=slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) joined ##slackware. [05:02] Axius (n=fd@92.84.0.78) joined ##slackware. [05:03] although.. i do miss "yum install vlc" right about now lol [05:06] alisonken1noc: you ever sleep? you're always on here when i am.. and its like 4am here.... although i think you're an hour or two behind me [05:08] i mean, if i wasnt' off all day today... i'd be unconscious by now [05:08] functionoverform: graveyard shift from california - I'm here from 10pm-6am [05:08] PST [05:12] hi all. i am just wondering, why is slackpkg upgrade-all so slow? is the list of all packages to scan for upgrades too big? is there a way to speed this up? takes ~1-2min on a quite fast laptop [05:13] josteint: there's a lot of stuff to upgrade-all that gets checked [05:14] i see, but i remember it being much much faster just a few years ago [05:16] josteint, well, you don't need to run upgade-all that often so does it really matter ? [05:17] i guess [05:17] I get pretty decent downloadspeed 1-2mb/s which is what counts for me.. [05:17] the check-process, not so much [05:21] Axius (n=fd@92.84.0.78) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:21] alisonken1noc: must be nice being able to irc chat at work, not too busy in the graveyard shift, eh? [05:22] depends - there are days :) [05:23] anyone here familiar with being able to copy the slackware usbboot.img file to a thumbdrive in windows? [05:26] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:26] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [05:27] alisonken1noc: for a bootable flash drive? [05:28] using the slackware usbboot.img file to create a boot flashdrive in windows, yes [05:31] alisonken1hom2 (n=alisonke@71.104.224.127) joined ##slackware. [05:32] hmm.. i did that for another distro awhile back [05:33] oh, but it was backtrack and there was already an image for usb already made [05:34] slackware already has an image in the pxe_and_usb_boot directory, but he only has access to a windows machine [05:35] feinom (n=feinom@svale.hia.no) joined ##slackware. [05:37] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@71.104.224.127) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:39] alisonken1noc: read my blog [05:39] http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/welcome-windows-user/ [05:42] alienBOB: well played sir [05:42] hel313 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [05:44] alienBOB: thank you [05:45] should make a separate link on your main blog page for that one :) [05:46] tsonev_ (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [05:46] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:46] King_Ozzy (n=King_Ozz@75.102.128.12) left irc: "Leaving." [05:47] yomom (n=r00t@122-124-137-229.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [05:48] yomom (n=r00t@122-124-137-229.dynamic.hinet.net) left ##slackware. [05:48] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [05:49] Chessware (n=Rossoner@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) left irc: "Leaving" [05:50] alisonken1noc: there is a "search" on that page. And just subscribe to the RSS feed if you are afraid to miss future information [05:52] F15ch3r (n=Rossoner@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [05:53] u-neeks (i=u-neeks@201-88-28-128.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [05:54] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:55] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [05:59] Kamel (n=1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:59] Kamel (n=1@c-76-123-106-217.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:00] is there a huge advantage to the 64 bit version of slackware? my desktop is more than ready for a change.. and i'm liking the 32bit on my laptop so far [06:01] other than access to disgustingly large amounts of ram - and making use of those extra 32-bits in the registers, depends on what you're doing [06:01] oh - and the 2036 linux y2k issue [06:02] Indeed it only makes sense to run a 64bit OS if your computer has more than 3 GB of RAM, and/or you run compute-heavy programs such as video encoders [06:02] or you plan on using the same system in 2036 [06:03] lol [06:04] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.92.14) joined ##slackware. [06:04] yomom (n=r00t@122-124-137-229.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [06:05] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [06:05] well, i was gonna throw some more ram in my desktop, its only got 2 GB right now.. [06:10] apparently the MB maxes at 8.. that seems excessive though lol [06:10] ? [06:11] oh [06:14] nothing wrong with having lots of RAM [06:15] no there's not [06:16] grazymax (n=grazymax@host170-3-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:17] with that much RAM you could set up enough /tmp space and RAM that you would not need swap [06:17] grazymax (n=grazymax@host253-12-dynamic.26-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [06:21] yeah... really? i don't even know what i need swap for exactly [06:21] that's how new i am. [06:22] same as virtual ram file in windows - the difference it's a partition instead of a file [06:22] makes it so your system appears to have more ram that it physically has [06:22] yomom (n=r00t@122-124-137-229.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:23] i gotcha [06:23] yeah, with 8 GB of ram i wouldn't need it [06:24] i dunno what exactly i'm gonna do with the desktop, but the laptop is a rough testing ground [06:24] with that said, it's usually a good idea to have a cushion just in case (tm) [06:26] yeah, see i wasn't sure if i should set up a swap partition on here, so i didn't [06:26] i mean, i had one on the fedora setup i had, but i still don't notice any difference in performance [06:27] i'll google it, i always do [06:31] hmm, when i partitioned, i left half the hdd empty.. [06:32] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left ##slackware. [06:32] can i add swap now? [06:33] sure [06:33] add an appropriate partition and change type to 82 [06:34] You can even create a file in your filesystem to use as swap [06:34] then make sure you run mkswap, then swapon then update fstab with the correct info [06:34] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:34] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [06:35] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [06:36] g3 (n=howellgp@ict-nat-33-156.aston.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:37] good morning [06:38] alienBOB: i was looking at that just now, a swap file [06:38] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [06:40] alisonken1noc: thanks, the swap file seems more appealing to me.. lol.. seems less complicated. [06:40] actually, a swap file is more complicated than a swap partition [06:41] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@orangevallee.GW.opentransit.net) left irc: No route to host [06:41] g3 (n=howellgp@ict-nat-33-156.aston.ac.uk) left irc: Client Quit [06:43] i mean.. i would agree, but ive created many a swap partition, without even knowing what it did [06:43] now's the time to learn the whats and whys :) [06:43] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [06:44] it's only with me that Dolphin crashes from time to time? [06:44] hugo1123 (i=hugo1123@host193-123-47-78-dhcp.bshellz.net) joined ##slackware. [06:44] Action: Delahunt is trying to figure out why all his kde stuff is acting screwy [06:44] don't use dolphin enough to find out about crashes [06:44] i might as well try this swap file out, see how it goes, if it goes horribly wrong, it'll just be practice [06:45] functionoverform: you can always use a logical volume for swap [06:45] yeah, dolphin slows this laptop down pretty quick [06:45] gives you the flexibility of a file, without the overhead of a filesystem [06:47] ananke: interesting, i think i'm gonna create a swap file right now, see how it goes [06:48] Action: Delahunt doesn't understand why someone would bother with a swap file but oh well [06:50] i'm just trying to make this thing a little more snappy, it was especially annoying when i had nepomuk strigi file indexing enabled, and it almost crashed because my power plug is a little loose, and it'd wiggle and go nuts [06:50] i should just set up a standard swap partition [06:50] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) joined ##slackware. [06:51] but i'm gonna try something a little different [06:51] functionoverform: i fail to see the connection between swap and your power plug [06:51] me too [06:51] well.. when it flips out [06:51] like, every time [06:51] you unplug it [06:51] and plug it back in [06:51] swap doesn't make things snappier, it just allows programs to hog ram without killing the system [06:51] ohk [06:52] and the swap file/partition doesn't help when the plug gets pulled on power either [06:52] lol.. i'm not saying its going to help that [06:52] functionoverform: swap allows the os to move out chunks of memory that haven't been accessed in a long time to a slower storage [06:52] i'm just saying when it flips out and everything freezes [06:52] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [06:52] i have to turn it off and restart [06:52] i'd like to prevent that [06:53] if it's due to programs and ram usage, then yes, the swap definitely helps if it's big enough [06:53] i guess [06:53] the old school method was swap partition size=2xphysical ram [06:53] i meant work it harder [06:53] yeah.. there's 512 in here [06:53] yeah - you definitely need swap if you don't have at least 2G ram installed [06:54] i think i'll make a swap file that's another 512 MB ram [06:54] and depending on what you do, even 2G may not be enough [06:54] well i don't do much with this laptop [06:54] make it 1G unless you're tight on disk space [06:54] i'm not [06:54] swap parittions are helpfull on laptops as well - it's where state information is kept when you sleep the lappy [06:54] i mean.. i don't store data here really, its more of an experimental old computer now [06:55] alisonken1noc, um you mean hibernate ( "to disk") right? [06:55] i can't sleep the lappy [06:55] Delahunt : of course :) [06:55] every time [06:55] no matter what i do [06:55] the mouse doesn't work if i hibernate and come back [06:55] it happened on fedora [06:55] and on here [06:55] its wierd [06:56] but hey, i get one side of headphone out of this thing, and the speakers haven't worked since like.. april, don't ask me why, one day they just quit [06:59] what laptop is it? [06:59] you may not have enough ram to hibernate to ram, and no swap partition means you can't save state to disk either [06:59] not sure how hibernate works with swap file [07:00] >.< [07:00] 1) hibernate (windows term) means "suspend to disk" [07:00] 2) suspend (windows term) means "suspend to ram" [07:00] you always have enough RAM to suspend to ram [07:01] MS has a bad habit of changing the meanings of things - look at what they call 'Open Source' :) [07:01] without a wap partition you can't suspend to disk [07:01] er, without swap, enough for your RAM and what ever is already in swap, you can't "hibernate" [07:01] (suspend to disk) [07:02] can be a partition or file but must be swap if you want to suspend to disk ("hibernate") [07:02] yeah microsoft has a bad habit of changing the meaning of things, i get sick of it quite often [07:02] much less user ignorance (not your fault functionoverform) makes it worse [07:02] have to ask people, "ok, by suspend do you mean (windows user) you clicked suspend or hibernate?" [07:03] hey man, i'm pretty sure i said sleep lol [07:03] among other things :) [07:03] that means close the damn lid [07:03] or the linux user who says suspend, "to memory or to disk" [07:03] closing the lid could be either one - depends on your setup [07:03] yeah it could be either one (usually suspend to ram but it depends on setup) [07:04] yeah i dunno.. [07:04] i don't even know where i would configure that [07:04] kde or xfce? [07:04] kde [07:05] Action: Zordrak just received his WRT320N :) [07:05] functionoverform, go to the kde laptop daemon thingy and configure it how you want it [07:06] Emeau (n=emeau@AMontsouris-552-1-13-246.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:06] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@20158132101.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:06] kde->system settings->advanced->power management->profiles [07:06] suspend options [07:06] (kde4) [07:07] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@189.13.220.219) joined ##slackware. [07:07] hugo1123 (i=hugo1123@host193-123-47-78-dhcp.bshellz.net) left ##slackware. [07:09] there's another strange thing in there [07:09] where it says cpu can be turned off [07:09] it has a NO sign [07:10] why would that be? i mean, i can press a power button, its a laptop, it doesn't bother me [07:10] option available on systems that allow you to enable/disable specific cpu's in multi-cpu architectures [07:10] oh [07:10] it actually means cpus [07:10] wow.. i guess i haven't slept in like 20 hours, starting to feel it [07:10] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ahkkfedxrbzfvutl) joined ##slackware. [07:10] yep - cpu, not core [07:10] gtludwig (n=gtl@150.162.165.189) joined ##slackware. [07:10] yeah, like, NOT the box [07:11] damn [07:11] i would recommend sticking it in "ondemand" mode or even lower [07:11] like so my buddy's mac pro [07:11] mujahid (n=gabriel@201.6.245.210) joined ##slackware. [07:11] he's got a couple processors [07:11] he could just straight up turn one off [07:11] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [07:11] core 2 duo laptops also have a couple processors [07:11] but i've never ever seen that option and the new mac laptops are core 2 duo afaik [07:12] your buddy may be confused, not sure [07:12] it's past my bed time so g'night [07:12] yeah, i think you're right about that lol [07:12] nite [07:12] fwiw "powersave" when on battery is the best [07:12] yeah, this is a battery from 04' [07:12] goarilla (n=goarilla@unaffiliated/goarilla) left irc: "leaving" [07:12] Nick change: zecafig -> zecaway [07:12] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [07:12] zecaway kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [07:13] fwiw i have an eee pc with a 1.6ghz atom. when unplugged ("powersave" is how i have it configured) it is running at 800mhz, but that's plenty fine for light tasks on a netbook [07:13] and i get like 4 hours unplugged [07:13] (easily) [07:13] yeah, talk to me in 6 years [07:13] for that battery life [07:14] lemme know if its still 4 hours [07:14] i highly recommend powersave mode when unplugged on all laptops, and that you just put up with how slow it is [07:14] mines like.. 1.5 now [07:14] paissad_ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[07:29] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:30] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:30] functionoverform (n=mranders@adsl-76-224-78-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:32] alisson (n=alisson@187.40.74.236) joined ##slackware. [07:34] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-193-89.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [07:39] paissad_ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:39] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-193-89.dsl.telepac.pt) left ##slackware. [07:43] Suspend to RAM seems to be hit-or-miss on this netbook. [07:43] Sometimes it works perfectly well. Sometimes it hangs before entering suspend. Earlier, it resumed, but X hung. [07:44] suspend/resume is one of the reasons I switched from freebsd on my laptop. [07:44] Oh, wrong channel. I specifically switched to slackware because it *did* work here :-) [07:46] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl9-251-59.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:46] n16h7f0x (n=nightfox@212.117.161.12) left irc: "Leaving" [07:46] ccfreak2k: [07:46] pupit, [07:46] what is the netbook? [07:47] Acer Aspire One [07:47] Drakevr (n=drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) joined ##slackware. [07:47] hello friends ! [07:47] I want to setup 2 virtuals network with different subnets, I simply don't know why I can't ping the host in the other side, this is all you need to know : http://pastebin.com/m44d6f33c [07:48] ccfreak2k: would you be kind post configruation, I want to try it on my eeepc [07:48] I simply want to ping 10.0.0.1 from 172.16.50.60 [07:48] any suggestions ? [07:50] pupit: http://pastebin.ca/1766456 [07:50] F15ch3r, you need a router to do that. [07:50] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:50] ccfreak2k: thanks! ;) [07:51] ccfreak2k, there is no other ways ? [07:51] pupit, what's missing is the CPU, which is an Intel Atom N270, and the RAM, which is 1GB of DDR2. [07:51] F15ch3r, no, because they're in different subnets. That specifically requires a router. [07:51] F15ch3r: doesn't look like you have the 10. address routed [07:53] ccfreak2k: I meant the suspend/resume configuration :) although this is watchable too :) [07:53] King_Ozzy (n=King_Ozz@75.102.128.12) joined ##slackware. [07:53] slack sounds like my kind of linux :-p [07:54] pupit, well tell me how to get that config and I'll tell you. [07:54] alisonken1noc, what do you mean exactly, by the way the two gateways can ping each other [07:54] Although this is basically stock in terms of software suspend config. [07:54] zalost (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [07:54] alisonken1noc, but the internals host can't [07:56] ccfreak2k: i don't know where the config could be, maybe it's in acpi, don't know really.. maybe someone else on channel knows [07:58] ccfreak2k, sorry I was disconnected [08:00] they're still separate networks - so unless there's a routing entry to direct the networks between the nics, they won't ping each other [08:00] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:03] F15ch3r, you have to have routing entries for the destination networks + enabled ip_forward in the kernel. [08:03] on the machines that do the routing. [08:03] ccfreak2k: /var/log/pm-***.log if you have them, please paste it :) [08:03] dTd (n=dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:05] slava_dp, I have simply two hosts with two interfaces in each host, one interface is a real NIC the other is Virtual (vlan) [08:06] slava_dp, the virtual interfaces (eth0.5) emulating the gateways [08:07] you know, this channel seems much friendlier for tech support [08:07] don't be fooled :> [08:07] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [08:07] o_O [08:08] the gateways 192. can ping each other so the routing is correct, the problem that I have is the internal host for example 10.0.0.1 and 172.16.50.60, they can't ping each other [08:08] King_Ozzy, we eat noobs for breakfast, you know. [08:08] F15ch3r: physical or virtual, there still needs to be a route entry since they're different subnets [08:09] unless you virtual a 10.0 onto the first eth [08:09] alisonken1noc, I added all the network needed for each one ? what need I to do more ? [08:10] F15ch3r: you need to read up on subnetting [08:10] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:11] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [08:11] pupiteee (n=p@79.101.69.197) joined ##slackware. [08:11] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:12] ccfreak2k: http://dpaste.com/150680/ it went well, but hibernate needs more ram [08:12] "hibernate needs more ram" makes no sense as a statement [08:12] less ram, or more hdd/swap space maybe [08:13] Zordrak: where is the data stored when it hibernates? [08:15] swap [08:15] usually [08:15] though you can specify somewhere else [08:15] Zordrak: and if I don't have swap? [08:16] since it uses ssd [08:16] i *think* you can specify a file.. but i havent looked atr hibernating in a long time [08:16] even if not, you just crate a swap partition and dont use it as swap just use it as hibernation space [08:16] y'all eat pieces of....i mean, y'all eat noobs for breakfast? :-p [08:16] windows, fdor example, just creates a file called hiberfil.sys [08:18] linux can't hibernate to files. [08:18] gotta have a partition. [08:18] Zordrak: so, you say that it never can save to ram? [08:19] pupit, s2ram and s2disk (which is hibernate) are two different things. [08:19] pupit, you have two distinct tools: pm-suspend (to ram) and pm-hibernate (to disk, i.e. swap). [08:19] slava_dp: thanks for clearing it out for me :) [08:20] I didn't know that, I thought it's the same thing [08:21] slava_dp: mot too surprising given how it works, worth knowing. [08:23] you can't suspend to a swap file? I thought you could [08:24] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:24] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:25] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) left irc: "see you on the other side" [08:26] i'm now reading that you can, using the latest kernels. but you have to pass partition offsets, etc. [08:27] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [08:27] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) left irc: Client Quit [08:28] slava_dp: so, basically kernel pulls the data from that "hibernated" partition? [08:28] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) joined ##slackware. [08:28] dominian: I've got a bone to pick with freenode [08:28] basically, have a swap partition and you'll be fine :) [08:28] alreadygone (n=silas@59.103.213.215) joined ##slackware. [08:29] King_Ozzy (n=King_Ozz@75.102.128.12) left irc: "Leaving." [08:29] alisonken1noc: yay [08:30] yeah, you can dd a file and mkswap on it for use with suspend, basically [08:30] adamk_ (n=adamk@h-67-102-187-39.phlapafg.static.covad.net) joined ##slackware. [08:30] slava_dp: thanks ;) [08:30] dominian: my home verizon twiddles with the system, so of course alisonken1hom2 gets logged in before alisonken1home gets logged out, but freenode won't let me change the nick back. I have to restart xchat to get it back [08:30] uhhh [08:30] that's because of this channels modes, I think [08:30] alisonken1noc: /msg nickserv help release or for a double-connection: /msg nickserv help ghost [08:31] That usually only applies if you aren't identified [08:31] If you are identified no reason you won't be able to change nicks, however, that's changing in ircd-seven [08:31] the response I get back is paraphrased "you cant send to the channel" [08:31] even if a channel is +m or you have a +q you'll be able to change nicks [08:31] alisonken1noc: yep then you need to identify to services or /part the channel before you can /nick [08:31] that changes in ircd-seven [08:31] thrice`: my suspend works just fine, don't know how, but hibernate won't work.. [08:31] on _all_ channels? including the freenode status window? [08:31] pupiteee (n=p@79.101.69.197) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:32] alisonken1noc: just channels... not status.. that's client specific [08:32] pupit, ok, it goes down for a hibernate, but doesn't come back, or? [08:32] happens even if I try it in the freenode status window [08:32] thrice`: I'll paste the log ;) [08:32] alisonken1noc: Well, when you /nick in the status window.. you are still /nick'ing across every channel you are in [08:33] hibernate works fine on this laptop, but suspend to ram works sporadically. sometimes it resumes, other times it dies with a cold reboot. [08:33] hmmm [08:33] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.36.128) joined ##slackware. [08:34] Action: slava_dp is still on 2.6.27 kernel. might change with 2.6.32 [08:34] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [08:34] "when in doubt, upgrade" :) [08:35] http://dpaste.com/150687/ [08:35] I had weird suspend issues until around 2.6.30, then stuff seemed to settle [08:35] alisonken1noc: check all the channles you are in [08:35] I think I tried ghosting already and still got the can't send to channel, so hmm [08:35] if they are +R or +m and you aren't +v then that's what's doing it [08:36] pupiteee, how big is your swap, compared to your ram ? [08:36] i've got weird problems with the kernel dying during system shutdown. says "kernel BUG.....". [08:36] aha [08:36] that's on 2.6.32. [08:36] alisonken1noc: its slackware-offtopic [08:36] alisonken1noc: the channel is +R and you aren't +v [08:36] thrice`: I don't have swap since it's SSD [08:36] ah - thanks [08:36] also, does anybody experience slow usb storage performance on 2.6.30 through 2.6.32? [08:36] pupit, so, how are you suspending2disk? [08:37] thrice`: just fine [08:37] pupit, huh? [08:37] pupit, I mean, how do yout hink it's possible to suspend 2 disk without a swap partition ? :) [08:38] I'll paste the log :) [08:38] oh, I thought you did [08:39] thrice`: I did I did, suspend works, hibernating does not [08:39] lol [08:39] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-20-251.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [08:39] hi there [08:39] hibernate takes your data on the RAM, and stores it on the swap partition [08:39] not having a swap partition = failure to hibernate, I think [08:39] thrice`: I think that too [08:40] pupit, i think you are a bit lost in the terms. "suspend to disk" = "hibernate". "suspend to ram" = "suspend". [08:40] so, you need a swap partition (or file), and it *should* be bigger than your ram. you can sometimes get away without it being larger than your ram, but ti could lead to failure if the ram is filled up [08:40] "hibernate" like a bear during the winter [08:41] pupiteee1 (n=p@93.86.36.128) joined ##slackware. [08:42] slava_dp: no I'm not lost in terms: http://dpaste.com/150690 [08:42] see for yourself [08:43] SlackLnx (n=Slackwar@a85-139-11-120.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:43] and this is suspend: pupiteee: http://dpaste.com/150687/ [08:43] yes, your SUSPEND works fine [08:43] your HIBERNATE fails because it can't access a swap partition [08:43] the question was "how was your hibernating" and the response was "fine" [08:43] (I think?) [08:43] that was the confusion [08:43] thrice`: yes [08:45] I have already thanked slava_dp for clearing the confusion... :) [08:45] oh, sorry! I thought you were trying to figure out why still [08:45] now I know why hib doesn't work... [08:45] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: "hungry :S" [08:46] the confusion? what confusion? let's clear the confusion :) [08:49] sorry, had to fix something on sisters lap, [08:50] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [08:51] thrice`: sorry I didn't meant to be rude, just don't want to be pain int the ass asking too much if I can google it and rtfm it :) [08:52] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:52] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [08:53] my English vocabulary is not so big, so thanks for patience [08:54] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:54] hi, people! I have installed slackware 13 as a guest OS in windowsXP with VirtualBox(latest). I install slackware with ext FS, and did a full update with slackpkg to current. when I reboot i get a kernal panic http://bildr.no/view/575637. i thought at first i was because I chose ext4, but even with ext3 the same kernal panic happens. do you guys or girls have any clue? [08:56] did you run lilo after updating your kernel? [08:56] nevermind, I'm pretty sure you didn't. run lilo [08:56] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.36.128) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:57] Looks to me like the root device might have changed when you updated your kernel. [08:57] also there should be a gazilion of .new files [08:57] josteint, please read the changelog entry from the 4th of January: http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt [08:57] I'm guessing that it was /dev/hda* previously and is now one of the /dev/sda* partitions. [08:57] or, you tried booting the generic kernel without an initrd [08:58] adamk_, that's what i suspect too. [08:58] I thought a vbox disk would default to sda* [08:58] nope, the default in vbox is ide. [08:58] adamk_: indeed slackware 13 installed as guest with virtualbox is using hda, not sda [08:59] josteint, you gotta update lilo.conf and the fstab, then run lilo and reboot to the new kernel [08:59] josteint: So fix /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf to use the correct new partition names. [08:59] Heh. [08:59] slava_dp: ok... so simply replace sda with hda in lilo.conf and do lilo? [08:59] from a windows box, that's gonna be fun :) [08:59] yes, and fstab [09:00] josteint, you have to edit the root= entry in lilo.conf and the / partition in /etc/fstab to sda1. [09:00] slava_dp: would be ok to change it to sata instead of ide? [09:00] josteint, then you will have to reinstall. [09:01] slava_dp: ok. i understand. thank you, slava_dp and adamk_ [09:01] or boot the install dvd and modify the files. [09:01] reinstall, reupdate, then fix lilo.conf and fstab before reboot [09:01] in the guest image [09:01] nope, better boot the slackware dvd and fix the files. [09:01] much faster. [09:02] of course. just boot with the slackware cd, and chroot and lilo [09:02] ok - and how does that work with a guest image under windows? [09:03] josteint, http://blog.tpa.me.uk/2009/09/29/re-installing-lilo-from-a-slackware-boot-cd/ might help you [09:03] alisonken1noc: The same way it works on any installation. [09:03] slava_dp: i've done it some times before. i will manage, but thanks for the link [09:03] alisonken1noc, just give vbox the iso or the real drive. [09:04] ok. sda to hda. thanks again [09:04] ok - you give the vbox the iso to boot the install cd, then how to tell the vbox what to loop mount the guest image of the installed slackware? hmm - going to have to read up on that one [09:05] another thing... is it possible to paste in some text copied from windows host to linux terminal(not X) guest using virtual box? sorry if this is not the right question here [09:05] argh alienBOB sorry i made 4 identical posts in your blog. please delete the 3. [09:05] alisonken1noc: No, you have virtualbox boot off the CD. VirtualBox already sees the disk image as an actual disk. [09:05] i blocked cookies in the first attempts [09:05] alisonken1noc: So you then just mount the disk once you've fully booted from teh CD. [09:06] alisonken1noc: No need to do any loopback crap. [09:06] and also the opposite way... copy text from the terminal to host windows [09:06] shows how much I play with vbox, let alone vbox on a windows machine I don't have :) [09:06] It's really no different than it would be on actual hardware. [09:07] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:08] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: "leaving" [09:08] sahk0: I'll have a look [09:09] thanks, its in the latest post of yours [09:09] slack_fish (n=slack_fi@59.72.110.45) left irc: Client Quit [09:10] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) joined ##slackware. [09:12] signal11_ (i=esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) left ##slackware. [09:12] signal11 (i=esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) joined ##slackware. [09:13] (##slackware) Channel ban on *away!*@* expired. 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[09:31] James____ (n=benjsh@h140n1-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:32] Hi , in slackware 13.0 sometimes when I click folders on the desktop in folder view the Dolphin just loads and nothing happens and it dont open the folder. If I right click and open folder with Thunar then it opens right away , what can be the problem with dolphin [09:33] James____: are you running dolphin on the shell for test? [09:33] in kde [09:33] i just click a folder [09:33] and then the mouse curser jump up and down like it is loading [09:33] but it never open the folder [09:34] it has worked before [09:34] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:34] James____: open on xterm and run dolphin :) [09:34] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [09:34] when i type dolphin in xterm [09:34] nothing happens [09:34] it just hang [09:35] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:35] I open my dolphin here normaly [09:36] James____: http://pastebin.ca/1766569 [09:36] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. George Carlin" [09:36] then after a while it says unknown program name 2187 communication problem with dolphin it probably crashed. org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply [09:37] http://pastebin.ca/1766574 [09:38] James____: your dbus are running ? [09:38] yes please refresh [09:38] i just paste [09:38] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:38] http://pastebin.ca/1766576 [09:39] James____: check de dolphin's deps [09:40] I need to go!! Lunch time [09:40] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:40] invalid mit-magic-cookie-1 [09:40] James____, and if you log out, restart dbus, and re-login? [09:40] James____, also, how are you starting kde? via. startx, or kdm? [09:41] it starts x automatic when i reboot [09:41] how do i restart dbus [09:41] what do you mean, it starts x automatic? [09:42] when i reboot [09:42] the laptop [09:42] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [09:42] I understand that :) does it start KDE itself, or KDM? [09:42] kde [09:43] ok, how did you set that up? [09:43] it also says invalid mit magic cookie [09:43] soo... you've edited inittab and changed a 3 to a 4 ? [09:43] he means kdm. [09:43] yeah [09:43] inittab [09:43] ok, that should take care of the dbus stuff just fine. [09:43] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [09:44] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [09:44] I was curious if you were starting kde in some un-conventional way [09:44] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Success [09:44] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [09:47] ok [09:47] nothing will work properly until you get rid of those god awful ____ in your nick. ;) [09:47] so how can i debug this dolphin [09:49] I'm not sure it will do anything, but I'd leave KDE, go to a TTY (ctl+alt+f2), login as root, and try "/etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus restart" , then go back to KDM and login to kde [09:51] surely if youre gonna do that you wanna ctrl-alt-bksp kdm [09:51] mm, maybe, I'm not sure it's necessary [09:52] something isn't communicating well with the system bus [09:52] i just restarted laptop [09:52] but same problem [09:53] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:53] which groups is your user a member of? [09:53] well, that shouldn't really matter either. sorry, I'm out of ideas [09:55] James____: have you recently pluged in some usb flash device? [09:55] nopes [09:58] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-21.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [09:58] try to delete ~/.dolphin in your home folder or better backup it... maybe after that will work.. [09:59] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [10:00] ups its in the ~/.kde/share/apps/dolphin [10:04] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:08] josteint (n=josteint@88.87.63.26) left irc: "Changing server" [10:09] Jimmen (n=Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [10:10] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-187-000.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [10:15] sloin (i=c154246e@gateway/web/freenode/x-kxwrsthbkpuypshf) joined ##slackware. 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[11:01] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:02] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [11:03] deximat_ (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [11:04] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [11:04] deximat_ (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Client Quit [11:05] Nick change: Dominian -> Dominoman [11:06] Nick change: Dominoman -> Dominian [11:06] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:08] Acquiesce (n=si@212.183.140.50) joined ##slackware. [11:08] anyone recommend a good ap for voip from slackbuilds ? [11:09] skype :P [11:10] Acquiesce: twinkle is best, linphone is ok [11:10] ok ill take a look at those thanks [11:11] is twinkle still ipv4 only? [11:11] Acquiesce sure, have fun ;) [11:11] ardya: not sure, www.twinklephone.com [11:12] cat be bothered to look, linphone meets my needs [11:12] ardya: twinkle has noise cancellation software now, really nice quality sound [11:12] ardya: yea, linphone works good too but not with some voip service providers [11:13] nod [11:13] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "brb" [11:15] isBEKaml (n=keml@122.174.95.29) joined ##slackware. [11:16] gnrp_ (n=gnrp@devrandom.physik-pool.TU-Berlin.DE) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:16] gnrp (n=gnrp@devrandom.physik-pool.TU-Berlin.DE) joined ##slackware. [11:17] madbear__ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:18] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [11:20] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:20] ardya: you like any other voip apps? [11:22] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:23] emma_ (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [11:23] alreadygone (n=silas@59.103.193.223) joined ##slackware. [11:25] tanamo__ (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) joined ##slackware. [11:25] tziOm (n=bjornar@103-73-9.connect.netcom.no) joined ##slackware. [11:26] have a problem with slack and 2.6.32.5 (probably other kernels too) .. problem is it is booting, starting init, running rc.S .. but when supposed to run rc.M I get no more output, no debugging no seg, nothing. [11:26] gnubien: My only criteia for testing them has been ipv6 connectivity and use, I dont use any services [11:26] when I am supposed to get output: "INIT: Entering runlevel: 3" I just get nothing.. but I head the hdd doing some work [11:26] and system is not froze [11:27] ardya: ipv6 in less than 2 years say news reports [11:32] Shuren (n=Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Sto andando via" [11:32] no, ipv4 exhaustion is, ipv6 adoption on teh other hand.... :) [11:33] ls [11:33] oops [11:33] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [11:33] Comcast cable in the US alleges rolling ipv6 out to its customers this year [11:34] people havent even started to get crafty with ipv4 yet [11:34] theres at least 10 more years of that [11:35] ipv4 wont go away anytime soon [11:37] madbear_ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:37] ardya: are you a lucky comcast customer> [11:37] ? [11:39] yes, biz [11:40] tanamo_ (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:41] seems that init cant open /dev/console [11:41] anyone know why this is happening? [11:41] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [11:41] macavity (n=macavity@212088073003.static.sonofon.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:42] tzi0m... not sure i know if this is the real answer, but if udev was run? [11:42] doesn't that create the stuff in /dev? [11:42] maybe it didn't run? [11:43] i think it is.. or no [11:43] not in rc.S ..? [11:43] lets check [11:44] I don't think udev is responsible for /dev/{console,zero} [11:45] it should be [11:45] it is run from rc.S, so yes [11:45] the system needs a couple to function, I mean [11:46] something has definitely changed in kernel, trying to google, but cant find answer [11:46] custom kernel? [11:46] no, nothing in the kernel [11:47] did you forget to add some stuff into the kernel? were you compiling it? [11:47] custom kerne, yes [11:47] ah [11:47] forgot to add console support? howto? [11:47] hehe [11:47] yeah [11:47] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.204) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:47] fun stuff [11:47] usually /dev/{null,console,zero} are installed with the system (using mknod), and NOT created via. udev. [11:48] ah good to know thrice` [11:48] sure about this, thrice? udev is run before this [11:49] # Add extra device nodes to the package that udev doesn't make: [11:49] tar xvf $CWD/udev-fixed-devices.tar.gz -C $PKG [11:49] from the slackbuild [11:49] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:50] James____ (n=benjsh@h140n1-m-sp-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com) left irc: [11:50] you can try to make them yourself, I guess, but [11:50] tziOm: check your kernel config, and ls -l /dev/console [11:51] I'm leanign towards your missing a kernel config option [11:51] i agree with ardya [11:51] indeed [11:51] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [11:51] especially with the udef-fixed-devices.tar.gz comment :) [11:52] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:52] darkwurm (n=atyrelyo@32.156.255.231) joined ##slackware. [11:52] reproduce it with the stock kernel before hacking your /dev up :) [11:55] padhu (n=Padhu@58.68.66.252) left irc: Client Quit [11:57] hope he saved the stock kernel :) [11:58] it can be something with the freakin advanced fb stuff [11:58] fbcon=map:.... [11:59] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:00] madbear__ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [12:02] snL20 (n=irssi@149-160-214.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. 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[12:09] he doesnt have a sister [12:09] emma_ (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:10] no, i got tired of esxi and i dumped slackware [12:10] onto a server [12:10] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:10] and i'm gonna qemu-kvm, i want to run a freebsd vm on it [12:12] dont understand this shit [12:12] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:13] Reaver1 (n=Joachim@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:13] too bad i have to keep kde and stuff, i dont feel like messing with dependencies [12:15] if you omit kde/, kdei/, everything will run fine [12:16] nothing depends on kde [12:16] madbear__ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [12:20] should dev be mounted: mount -n -t ramfs none /dev ? [12:26] emma_ (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. 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The k3b keeps asking for transcode...when I am trying that thru sbopkg, the package building spews out some error message. [12:39] It was late last night and I don't even remember the message. [12:39] read the readme [12:39] darkwurm (n=atyrelyo@32.156.255.231) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:39] transcode has a severly long dependency list iirc [12:40] yes it does. [12:40] and some of those probably have deps on their own [12:40] that happened last night. :-| [12:40] that is why the build queue system in sbopkg is so damn nice [12:41] If fact I forgot the list of libraries that I had to install. [12:41] alisonken1hom2 (n=alisonke@71.104.224.127) left ##slackware. [12:41] alisonken1hom2 (n=alisonke@71.104.224.127) joined ##slackware. [12:41] alisonken1hom2 (n=alisonke@71.104.224.127) left ##slackware. 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[12:53] Are you talking about ffmpeg or k3b? k3b is installed. How do you check for ffmpeg? [12:53] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-116-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:54] all packages get entries in /var/log/packages/ [12:54] grep ffmpet /var/log/packages/* [12:54] ffmpeg - sorry [12:54] fail [12:54] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/transcode/ is its own package [12:54] pebkac [12:55] yes - and he asked about ffmpeg [12:55] but he NEEDS trancode [12:55] I might have missed the transcode question [12:55] the ffmpeg is not installed....aaargh [12:56] kleanchap: why do you think that transcode is part of slackware? or ffmpeg? [12:56] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-116-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [12:56] k3b was asking for the transcode. [12:56] to me, k3b complaining that "transcode needs to be installed" should be pretty obvious as to what action needs to be taken [12:56] kleanchap: let me rephrase that ... [12:57] What made you think that either transcode or/and ffmpeg is part of slackware or has ever been? [12:58] I see that you mentioned ffmpeg. [12:58] transcode depends upon ffmpeg [12:59] I am getting some dependency messages. [12:59] kleanchap: http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/sdeg/multimedia.htm [12:59] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@83.225.142.146) joined ##slackware. [12:59] explains what you need to rip dvds [12:59] kleanchap, read the README for ffmpeg, transcode, etc. they are *quite* clear what you need [13:01] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [13:02] also, just random guessing is known to not be the most accurate way to solve problems. [13:02] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [13:02] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-18-74.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] BP{k}, and, typing everything you see furiously into irc [13:03] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-116-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[13:10] http://get.qtsoftware.com/qt/source/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.1.tar.bz2 <-blank page [13:10] gem_cat, browse the qt ftp yourself (I think it's changed sinc ehte nokia take-over) - 4.5.x should still be available [13:10] spook: No results! [13:11] gem_cat: here's an idea .. google the filename? [13:11] ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/ [13:11] vldmr: write the slackbuild yourself! :) [13:11] haqe17_ (n=csujbc@viglab-11.dcs.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:11] Action: BP{k} goes to check pom(6) if it is a full moon again [13:11] I have tried - there seems to be a ver 5.6.x emerging [13:11] The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (83% of Full) [13:11] yes, the first hit on google for "qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.1.tar.bz2" gives a direct link to a mirror ;) [13:12] spook: Im thinking so [13:12] thank you thrice` I should have tried that [13:12] so, why didn't you? [13:12] BP{k}: see above. pom(6) [13:12] spook: point. [13:15] Nick change: jg71_ -> jg71 [13:15] thrice`, i should just blacklist xap tooe h [13:15] eh? [13:15] alreadygone (n=silas@59.103.193.223) left irc: "Leaving" [13:16] well, without mplayer, you'll miss out on your ascii goat porn [13:16] aaxine ftw! :P [13:16] -vo aa [13:16] or -vo caca for colour [13:16] darkwurm (n=atyrelyo@32.153.3.48) joined ##slackware. [13:17] it's a qemu-kvm machine [13:17] ^kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC31650.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Client Quit [13:17] blacklisting seems a bit extreme, just dont install the series? [13:18] so every time i have to learn what what does when i go to install new or upgrade all [13:18] just cause blacklisting is extreme ? [13:18] ok.. KMS and aa pron doesnt go well together.. it flickers like hell [13:19] jeev: i said seems, if it works for you go for it [13:19] haqe17_ (n=csujbc@viglab-11.dcs.warwick.ac.uk) left irc: Client Quit [13:20] xap/ probably isn't useful, no. you can also pick and choose later [13:22] Reading boot sector from /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 [13:22] that's so annoying [13:22] it just sits there [13:22] upon lilo [13:22] happens half the time [13:23] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-18-74.dyn.centurytel.net) left ##slackware ("fades slowly from view"). [13:23] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [13:24] hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } [13:24] ide: failed opcode was: unknown [13:24] heh [13:24] Channel flood from jeev -- kicking [13:24] hda [13:24] jeev kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [13:25] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. 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[13:37] damn this sucks man, can't believe my customer/friend died, i never even met the guy but i had talked to him almost every day for 5+ years. it's weird seeing his icq online but it's just his wife [13:38] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-116-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:39] Scuzz, Thanks for the link on salixos. [13:41] user51 (n=kid@117.200.50.17) left irc: Client Quit [13:42] darkwurm (n=atyrelyo@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:50] e01_ (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [13:52] tsonev_ (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:54] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. 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[14:12] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:13] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:14] darkwurm (n=atyrelyo@32.156.192.189) joined ##slackware. [14:14] Alan_Hicks: PCI is not of this decade [14:14] how many ports do you need ? [14:14] adaptr: It's going in a box that's not of this decade. :-) [14:15] 2 ports should be sufficient. [14:15] 2 ports is all it can handle - if that [14:15] Cost isn't a huge concern. [14:15] Neither is speed for that matter. [14:15] it really doesn't matter, but compatibility-wise the SiL chipsets tend to do well [14:15] This is just gonna be used for removeable backup. [14:15] they can usually be driven by libata, which you Want [14:16] ang (n=ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] Thanks. [14:18] when in doubt, refer to the Linux SATA RAID list (google for "Linux SATA RAID") [14:18] raela (n=raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) joined ##slackware. [14:18] it's fairly comprehensive [14:19] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:19] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) joined ##slackware. [14:20] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:20] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Connection timed out [14:20] Zosma (i=jorrit@130.89.163.49) left irc: "Changing server" [14:20] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:20] Yeah. I've seen that before, but it's dated. Also, though it doesn't really matter here, I don't need RAID. [14:21] i'd get one with lots of impressive leds [14:21] suid0 (i=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [14:23] jabuti (n=jabuti@201009232064.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:24] suid0: hello little bitch :) [14:24] Alan_Hicks: howdy [14:25] gar0t0, bleh [14:25] gar0t0: Howdy. [14:27] madbear__ (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) left ##slackware. [14:28] Shuren (n=Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:30] Shuren (n=Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:30] Alan_Hicks: since what you want is essentially a pretty fucking DATED card, why is the SATA RAID faq outdated ? :P [14:30] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:30] I seriously doubt anybody is producing a NEW PCI SATA card - ever [14:31] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: "leaving" [14:32] jescis (i=1000@adsl-93-90-136.owb.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:32] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.12.196) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:33] Alan_Hicks: if you have the 64bit pci slot, go for that type of card. [14:33] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.254.52.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. 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[15:15] vim diary [15:15] i [15:15] I got slackware today [15:15] ESC [15:15] :wq [15:15] :D [15:16] voila, diary [15:16] real mean use echo [15:16] men* [15:16] or simply inoput your entries into openoffices spreadsheet app [15:16] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.58.180) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:17] dtiger (n=dtiger@dynamic-vpdn-91-149-132-194.telecom.by) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [15:17] tooly (n=tooly@e178153072.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. [15:19] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:22] gtludwig (n=gtl@150.162.165.49) joined ##slackware. [15:22] gtl_ (n=gtl@150.162.165.49) joined ##slackware. [15:22] gtludwig (n=gtl@150.162.165.49) left irc: Client Quit [15:23] gtl_ (n=gtl@150.162.165.49) left irc: Client Quit [15:25] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:26] Patero-ng (n=Basura@174-23-46-61.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:50] jabuti (n=jabuti@201009232064.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [15:51] I did netstat and it doesn't show up [15:51] then I went to my linux scanner and it doesn't show port 8 there anymore [15:52] h4x! [15:53] call microsoft! [15:53] z0mg! [15:53] so what is yoru opinion [15:53] why is not showing no more [15:53] I will scan later [15:54] v4nelle (n=van@79.103.187.101.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:54] [we don't really care] [15:54] I will scan later [15:55] macius (n=macius@i209-195-80-63.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [15:55] Patero-ng: why aren't you asking #windows about it? [15:55] is showing up again [15:55] is filtered it says [15:56] it alwasy said it was filtered [15:56] according to nmap [15:57] Patero-ng: you'd better format your pc [15:57] ... this would give us at least 2 hours of peace. [16:00] I will do more research [16:00] brb [16:00] doomey (n=doomey@188.24.77.78) left ##slackware. 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[16:06] hey not sure you if you remeber me but im still tryign to get my macbook pro touchpad working on my macbook pro, i have bcm5974 running and my xorg configured proply i think yet its still now working [16:06] my question is what is x11-driver-input-synaptics and does it come with slackware ? cause i reading forums and for my comp model it is said to be installed [16:07] along with gsynaptics :S cant find it on slackbuild [16:07] its a touchpad driver [16:07] macius: ls /var/log/packages/xf86-input-synaptics-1.1.3-i486-1 [16:08] macius: see synaptics(4) [16:09] macius: as for gsynaptics, i dont know, i always configurate stuff with a text editor (then i know what the heck is going on) [16:10] yeah true well i dont seem to have the /varlog/packages/xf... , aboutgh i have the manual page for it :S hm [16:10] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.210) joined ##slackware. [16:10] Acquiesce (n=si@212.183.140.50) left irc: Client Quit [16:10] Scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "leaving" [16:10] then you didnt do a full install methinks [16:10] what slackware version? [16:10] 13 [16:10] oh, and that is /var/log/packages [16:11] not /varlog/ [16:11] well during installting i selected all [16:11] 8/tcp filtered unknown [16:11] 135/tcp open msrpc [16:11] 139/tcp open netbios-ssn [16:11] Channel flood from Patero-ng -- kicking [16:11] 445/tcp open microsoft-ds [16:11] Patero-ng kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [16:11] Patero-ng (n=Basura@174-23-46-61.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:11] :( help me [16:11] Patero-ng: no [16:11] it is a windows problem [16:11] we dont know shit about windows [16:11] is there anywhere i can get the driver again? [16:11] but my question is [16:11] sometims port 8 doesn't show up [16:12] Acquiesce (n=si@212.183.140.50) joined ##slackware. [16:12] like is not open [16:12] macius: do you have slacpkg installed/configured? [16:12] at ramdom it opens up [16:12] well i have the programslackpkg didnt configure it [16:13] but yeah i think i remeber how, played with that before [16:13] macius: edit /etc/slackpkg/mirrors and uncomment exactly *one* mirror for slackware-13.0 [16:13] macius: slackpkg install xf86-input-synaptics [16:13] Scuzz (n=scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [16:14] Patero-ng: go ask a windows person what windows tool you should use to find out what windows process binds to the windows tcp port 8 [16:14] emma_ (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:14] alright doing an update first [16:14] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [16:15] also in my xorg,conf, under section input device for Mouse0 , the driver should be synaptics aswell in my case ? or mouse [16:15] or will X -configure do that for me? [16:15] after instlaling the pkg [16:15] macius: i am not 100% that the synaptics driver is what you are looking for.. on regular PCs synaptics work just like a regular PS/2 mouse if you dont specify anything [16:15] honestly all i want is the functionallity to move the cursor lol [16:15] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [16:15] later i can play with it [16:16] just its annoying me liek hell that is has 0 functionality [16:16] :( [16:16] lol [16:16] toofer-home (n=toofer@c-67-182-217-108.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] macius: try changing the Driver to synaptics and see [16:16] macius: and read the manpage for further details [16:16] alright [16:17] hm when i tried installed it using slackpkd it wasent found [16:17] are you root? [16:17] yes [16:17] did you switch with "su -"? [16:17] yup [16:17] which slackpkg? [16:17] jjholt2 (n=jjholt@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) joined ##slackware. [16:17] as in, the command which [16:18] raela (n=raela@ansci135-66.ansci.cornell.edu) left irc: "leaving" [16:18] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-031-061.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:18] sorry ? as in the command which? [16:18] if you type at the console like you type in here, it is no wonder it cant find it :P [16:18] command: "which slackpkg" [16:18] jjholt (n=CSharpIR@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] jjholt (n=CSharpIR@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) left irc: Excess Flood [16:18] it should return /usr/sbin/slackpkg [16:18] can someone recommend me a wireless PCI card i can use that requires little or no messing around to get working? [16:19] yeah it returned that exact path [16:19] macius: then you made a typo [16:19] macius: try slackpkg again [16:19] i copied and pasted lol [16:19] s-l-a-c-k-p-k-g [16:19] signornessuno (n=signorne@host18-251-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:19] not s-l-a-c-k-p-k-d [16:19] toofer-home (n=toofer@c-67-182-217-108.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:20] i was worrying about typos :P, my bad about them all lol [16:20] so, is it updating? [16:20] it finished the update [16:20] slackpkg install xf86-input-synaptics [16:20] anybody? [16:21] and dont copy/paste my commands, or i will start making typos [16:21] macius: icidu [16:21] -bash: icidu: command not found [16:21] macius: they make Atheros 5xxx based cards that work flawlessly out of the box [16:21] jjholt (n=CSharpIR@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) joined ##slackware. [16:21] mel0n: icidu [16:21] wahts to me? lol [16:21] macius: sorry [16:21] jjholt (n=CSharpIR@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:21] thats* [16:21] ardya: thanks for spotting :P [16:22] mel0n: try to get something that is compatible with minimal work, something that wont need ndiswrapper, atheros is good, intel has some good wifi support too [16:22] ugh i cannot type, but honestly its not finding anything [16:22] mel0n: : they make Atheros 5xxx based cards that work flawlessly out of the box [16:22] tanamo__ (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:22] macius: copy/paste this: ls /var/log/packages/xf86-input-synaptics* [16:22] o wait up when i did slackpkg search it said its already installed [16:23] Action: macavity hammers macius over the head with a huge UNIX manual [16:23] The-spiki (n=spiki@77-105-33-215.dialup.sezampro.yu) joined ##slackware. [16:23] :P [16:23] you need to slow down and pay more attention [16:23] no such file or directory :( [16:23] O_O [16:23] something is fucked up in your install [16:24] or pebkac [16:24] I lean towards the latter [16:24] if slackpkg says you have it, but the log is not in /var/log/packages/ then something is funny honny bunny [16:24] macavity, "ls /var/log/packages/*synaptics* | wc -l" ? [16:24] jjholt (n=CSharpIR@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] thrice`: 1 [16:25] wait up im an idiot i found it xf86-input-synaptics-1.1.3-i486-1 [16:25] jjholt (n=CSharpIR@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:25] lol should of tried wild keys [16:25] macius: have you head of tab completion? [16:25] this is only the first of the many trials before you achieve jedi status. [16:25] macius: that is how to avoid typos [16:25] macius: soon you will switch to zsh, and tab complete _everything_ [16:25] macavity: "funny honny bunny" ? heh [16:26] thumbs: that is "honney" isnt it? [16:26] honey? [16:26] Action: macavity cant spell [16:26] jjholt (n=CSharpIR@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) joined ##slackware. [16:26] macius: that is why i use tab completion when i check filenames [16:26] honey = miel / bee puke. hunny, generally is the way 13 yr old girls spell it when "txting" [16:27] jjholt (n=CSharpIR@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:27] and "hon" (with a really long o) is how americans pronounce it, right? [16:28] JJHOLT (n=CSharpIR@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) joined ##slackware. [16:28] "sure hooon, i'll be home for dinner"? [16:28] JJHOLT (n=CSharpIR@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:28] eviljames: well it's good puke! [16:28] macavity: this suck well if i had it why is my mouse not working lmao um can you tell me if you have synaptics in /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty ? cause i've of forums telling me to copy it from there and put it in a diff folder [16:29] macius: what exactly happens if you dont have an xorg.conf at all? [16:29] jjholt (n=CSharpIR@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) joined ##slackware. [16:29] macavity: although i have 11-x11-vmmouse.fdi, not to sure what that it but thats what led me to belive that i didnt have synaptic [16:29] macavity, sorry, tab-failure [16:29] :P [16:29] macavity, didnt try it lol, although i can assume X will be all oversized [16:30] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:30] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "rah" [16:30] thanks Pig_pen and macavity ill look them up now i heard atheros chips were good. ive been recommend dlink and edimax. are these good or... pardon my french shit? [16:30] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:30] thumbs: I would never deny that for a second. a friend of mine worked on a commercial bee/honey farm this summer and brought me some great fresh stuff.. I loves me some boutique honey [16:30] macius: and please stop speaking AOLish to me. Use proper punktuation, as you are fucking up my dislaxia with "lmao um can you" in the middle of a sentense [16:31] cresente (n=cresente@99-190-115-242.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [16:31] macavity: haha sorry about that [16:31] edimax is good stuff [16:31] if you specify "mouse" in xorg.conf, then xorg will obey that [16:31] i have a couple of their usb wireless sticks [16:31] that is, either you let HAL handle it via evdev, or you use an xorg.conf [16:31] mel0n: just stay away from anything with a broadcom chip on it and you should be alright [16:32] jjholt (n=CSharpIR@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:32] macius: ^^ [16:32] signornessuno (n=signorne@host18-251-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [16:32] macius: that is why i asked: what happens if you dont have an xorg.conf at all? [16:32] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.210) left irc: "Leaving" [16:32] ok, could you recommend some brands? ...yeh i have a built in broadcom 43xx on my laptop. [16:32] I'm going to embark on libdrm / mesa / radeon upgrdes today to support this video card. [16:32] jjholt (n=CSharpIR@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) joined ##slackware. [16:32] mel0n: i just recomended icidu [16:32] macavity: i have mouse specified in xorg, ugh im confused, new to all this [16:33] other than build libdrm first, then mesa, then the driver, any other things I need to be aware of? [16:33] macius: that is why i asked: what happens if you dont have an xorg.conf at all? [16:33] jjholt (n=CSharpIR@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:33] there was a website that listed brands with the wifi chip on it, let me see if i can find it [16:33] macius: you *are* aware that Xorg is "self configuring" these days, right? [16:33] macavity: alright ill get rid of it and see [16:34] macius: mv it.. dont rm it [16:34] do they deliver to uk? [16:34] eviljames, nope. mesa 7.7.x bit my intel card pretty hard, but I'd guess that's the route to go for radeon [16:34] macavity: mhmm well i tried an X -configure and my mouse is still not reacting right, [16:34] http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_alles.php mel0n [16:34] radeonhd is nice, but i'm still using 7.5 or whatever came with 13 [16:34] macavity: yeah i know not a big enough idiot to delete it [16:34] macavity: :) [16:34] Acquiesce (n=si@212.183.140.50) left irc: "Leaving" [16:35] macius: are you absolutely sure? ;-) [16:35] thanks so any brand is good as long as it has atheros chipset? [16:36] thrice`: this will be for slackware64-current.. which worked as-is perfectly with my various intel chips. [16:36] try to stick with atheros 5, some wifi cards will work with linux & wireless-tools but not so good with wpa_supplicant which means you can get wifi working but not so great with wpa/wpa2 encription which means you will be stuck with wep [16:36] k [16:36] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-031-061.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:36] yucky... [16:36] macavity: hopefully :) k gonna restart x wish me luck [16:36] macius (n=macius@i209-195-80-63.cia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:36] Action: Necos pulls the plug on macius' life support [16:36] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:37] jjholt2 (n=jjholt@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:37] jjholt2 (n=jjholt@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] cresente (n=cresente@99-190-115-242.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:37] eviljames, no, I meant, when I tried updating to mesa 7.7, it was super crashy on my intel card :) [16:37] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) left irc: "leaving" [16:37] I've tried 7.7 proper, and 2 different pulls from 7.7_release [16:40] er, mesa_7_7_branch [16:40] macius (n=macius@i209-195-80-63.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:41] macavity: still no luck [16:41] macius: try and pull straterra's sleeve [16:42] no idea what you meant by that lol [16:42] but w.e [16:42] ty [16:42] macius: he has some macs.. but please, try and focus when you speak with him.. [16:43] macius: other than that, try the xorg.conf with Driver "synaptics" route.. and do read the manpage [16:43] eviljames, if you're curious, I have a slackbuild that builds mesa from git :> [16:43] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:44] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [16:44] macavity: yeah will do [16:44] thrice`: is it available anywhere? I'll try with 7.7 first and then move to git builds if need be. [16:44] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578BC4.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [16:44] eviljames, http://github.com/abrouwers/ajb_slackbuilds/blob/master/mesa/mesa.SlackBuild [16:44] eviljames, but, currently, it only builds the intel stuff. you'll have to comment/uncomment a couple items [16:45] matu (n=matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) joined ##slackware. [16:45] Heh, the rpm package was updated. [16:46] thrice`: great, thx. [16:46] thrice`: any specific version {,in}compatibilities you know of? [16:47] eviljames, should be relatively obvious, but for radeon: comment VERSION=7.6.1, uncomment the version below; comment out my DRI_drivers, uncomment Pat's above. uncomment the git section (except the actual comments), comment out the "release version" stuff [16:48] eviljames, nope, not off hand. that pulls git from the STABLE 7.7 branch, not bleeding edge master. eg, what will become 7.7.1 or so [16:53] mel0n_ (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:53] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:54] thrice`: I should've actually read your link before starting on the build.. a couple of drivers don't exist anymore it seems.. trident and s3v had to be removed from DRI_DRIVERS before configure would work for me... [16:55] ah, ok. you can trim down the build by just building radeon and swrast or so, but it's up to you :) [16:56] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) joined ##slackware. [16:57] macius (n=macius@i209-195-80-63.cia.com) left irc: "leaving" [16:59] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-40.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:59] mel0n_ (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:00] mernill (i=1000@h-223-74.A258.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [17:00] ##slackware: mode change '+b mernill*!*@*.se' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:00] mernill kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Bye now, take your fantasies elsewhere [17:01] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:01] can some help me get my Edimax ew-7318usg to work please? :D [17:02] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [17:02] LOL [17:02] ? [17:02] 0.o [17:02] daidoji (n=daidoji7@99.48.50.198) joined ##slackware. [17:03] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-195-252.33-151.iol.it) left ##slackware. [17:04] anyone? [17:04] what have you tried so far. [17:05] I have no /dev/dsp on this intel_hda sound chip. Is that normal? rc.alsa is executable, and the oss modules are therefore loaded... [17:06] sQuEE (n=narya@190.31.135.217) joined ##slackware. [17:06] you've confirmed they're loaded? [17:06] nothing much :P i found it "wlan0", did "ifconfig wlan0 up" the "iwlist scan", it scanned and found my wireless, then when i tryed to connect to it through wicd it said couldnt get ip address... [17:07] yes [17:07] pastebin lsmod please [17:08] slackguru (n=slackgur@71-213-234-140.cdrr.qwest.net) left irc: "Haha, you quit!" [17:08] ardya, http://pastebin.ca/1767162 [17:09] ok looks good [17:09] hald running? [17:10] and udevd? [17:10] yep [17:11] The module loaded without error or warning? [17:11] yep [17:13] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:13] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) left irc: "Leaving" [17:15] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:16] can some help me get my edimax ew-7318usg to work?? [17:16] einyx (n=einyx@ppp-168-239.32-151.iol.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:17] mel0n: did u select the right adapter in wicd? [17:17] yeh i chose wlan0 [17:19] any ideas? do i need to install a driver for it? [17:20] neconide (n=psyk@66.90.26.210) joined ##slackware. [17:21] mel0n: check with /var/log/dmesg & /var/log/messages and make sure that this edimax is wlan0, if you have a built in broadcom wifi it might bump it up to wlan1 [17:21] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-031-061.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:21] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-151-41-43.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:22] kloeri_ (i=kloeri@freenode/staff/exherbo.kloeri) joined ##slackware. [17:22] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-151-41-43.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Any compiz users here? [17:22] i found this in /var/log/dmesg "an0 (rt73usb): not using net_device_ops yet [17:22] " [17:23] *wlan0 [17:23] "wlan0 (rt73usb): not using net_device_ops yet" [17:23] ok, the rt73 is supported, there is firmware for it in /n [17:24] whats /n? [17:25] a directory for slackware's networking apps & tools, if you installed everything then you already have it installed, you just need to configure it [17:25] tziOm (n=bjornar@103-73-9.connect.netcom.no) left ##slackware. [17:25] he meant n/ [17:25] whats that then lol? [17:25] /n\ \n/ [17:25] newline? [17:26] (01.26.10 17:25) < Pig_Pen> a directory for slackware's networking apps & tools, if you installed everything [17:26] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-116-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [17:26] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-116-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:26] k [17:26] no, n/ [17:27] piccardTE20 (n=j@247.Red-88-15-194.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [17:27] errordeveloper (n=errordev@host86-151-41-43.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:28] ive only found rt71... [17:29] could i follow this but apply it for slackware? http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/RT73_Wireless [17:30] nannes (n=nannes@unaffiliated/nannes) left ##slackware. [17:30] neconide (n=psyk@66.90.26.210) left irc: K-lined [17:30] ..were can i get the firmware? [17:31] n/ [17:31] you were told [17:32] is that on the install disk? [17:32] jjholt2 (n=jjholt@cblmdm72-240-228-66.buckeyecom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:32] yes. [17:32] yeh i could find it only rt71 [17:32] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [17:34] any ideas? [17:34] darkwurm (n=atyrelyo@74-60-30-141.eug.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [17:34] darkwurm (n=atyrelyo@74-60-30-141.eug.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:35] aaaa.... i feel like an idiot it is the RT2571 (rt73) sorry [17:36] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [17:36] mel0n: you need to edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf and rc.wireless only you know your settings be what your wifi router is configured [17:36] make that rc.wireless.conf (dont touch rc.wireless) [17:37] ok [17:37] sirslacker (n=sirslack@tmo-104-249.customers.d1-online.com) joined ##slackware. [17:37] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] so i just pkgtool the rt71 driver then edit them files to my needs? [17:38] first save a backup of those two files, rc.inet1.conf-original and rc.wireless.conf-original then edit them [17:40] macius (n=macius@i209-195-81-173.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:42] how do i edit rc.inet1.conf to use wlan0? [17:42] ah its ok found it [17:43] i will pastebin mine if you want to see it, i did delete everything that i dont use [17:43] ok if you would [17:43] j4cx (n=j4ck@adsl190-28-93-78.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [17:43] http://pastebin.com/d711f3f28 [17:44] http://pastebin.com/d1107459d and my rc.wireless.conf [17:45] Don't post personal information on a public place [17:45] ok [17:46] Patero-ng: here's my ip 2001:470:e006::1000 [17:46] ur going down [17:46] yes, Ur went down thousands of years ago [17:46] in the [] brackets you have 0 but i have 4. does that make a difference? [17:46] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. 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[18:03] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@cpc2-donc1-0-0-cust57.barn.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:06] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.18) joined ##slackware. [18:07] sirslacker (n=sirslack@tmo-104-249.customers.d1-online.com) left irc: "things that now seem to be vital, tomorrow will be important only and in a few days, just the memories! so don't worry, I wil [18:07] sirslacker (i=1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [18:07] k ive edited them. now should i just try to connect with wicd? [18:09] see when setting up raid 0 in the bios... why would i not be able to boot after a bios upgrade and resetting raid 0 ? [18:09] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-50.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:10] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [18:11] for some reason when i do dmesg i get this "rt73usb 2-4:1.0: firmware: requesting rt73.bin" [18:11] any ideas? [18:13] You need the firmware for that item? [18:13] sirslacker (i=1001@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:13] Accd to http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/rt73usb [18:13] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:13] That chip has binary firmware that is needed. [18:13] should raid'd hd be switchable between machines? [18:14] You can download it by following that link and putting the needed file in /lib/firmware [18:14] garme (n=garme@201009102092.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:14] jonsmith1982, not necessarily. [18:14] The config is stored on the controller, not the drives. [18:14] If the controller config is lost, it won't know what to do. [18:15] is that the reason for software raid? [18:15] Now, if the controller is an addin card, and you move both it and the drives, and make sure the ports aren't switched on the drives, it could in theory work. [18:15] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] Nah. Software RAID is cheaper. No dedicated ASIC or anything. [18:16] However, the tradeoff is that it uses the CPU. [18:16] True hardware RAID offloads all the RAID functions to a dedicated chip. It also usually provides for nice things like battery-backed cache. [18:17] For production servers, use hardware RAID. Software RAID should be sufficient for non-critical workstations and desktops. [18:18] Motoko-chan, thanks for that. much appreciated. [18:18] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:19] fuckin hell slackware pisses me off with wireless! [18:19] mel0n, huh? [18:19] ive spent 3 days trying to get the wifi working [18:19] but still nothing... [18:19] It shouldn't be that difficult. [18:20] Are you sure the firmware is found and loaded? [18:20] That's the first step. [18:20] then you're doing it wrong - quit fucking cursing, and ask a useful question, or keep to yourself [18:20] Then make sure the radio and all is functioning by using iwconfig and scan. [18:20] i have been asking questions thrice with little help actually [18:20] ok, we'll start from the beginning :> [18:21] Actually, it's iwlist. [18:21] does /sbin/ifconfig -a show your device ? [18:21] yes [18:21] it shows it as wlan0 [18:22] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.18) left irc: "Leaving" [18:22] thrice`: did you build rekonq lately? i saw a script of your in github. did it work with qt < 4.6 ? [18:22] ok, good. and you know the SSID ? Does it have encryption? [18:22] Try running "iwlist wlan0 scan" [18:22] thrice`, don't jump ahead. Make sure it can see APs first. [18:23] macius (n=macius@i209-195-81-173.cia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:23] thrice`: rekonq from git not the stable 0.3 version [18:23] sahko, yep, I'm using it, but I'm on alienBOB's kde 4.4 packs. rekonq 0.3 worked OK, but was a little crashy [18:23] k i found my wireless [18:23] functionoverform (n=mranders@adsl-76-224-78-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [18:23] mel0n, it shows in the list? [18:23] thrice`: hm ok thanks. kde4.4 uses an updated qt. i ll just build it and check [18:24] http://pastebin.com/m6004c338 [18:24] sahko, though, the main reason it was crashy is becasue of the webkit in qt 4.5.x; 4.6 offers a much nicer / more stable webkit [18:25] mel0n, wpa1? ;D [18:25] That's good. Now you just need to set up the config. I actually need to finish setting up OOo in headless mode for a client. If nobody helps you by the time I return, I'll try to. [18:25] thrice`: yeah i know, i have an open report the devs are requesting feedback https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201906 but havent used the app in a while [18:25] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-43.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3814, sources date: 20091222, built on: 2010-01-09 17:48:42 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/" [18:25] yeh i had wpa2 but wen i messed about with rc.inet1.conf could find option for wpa2 [18:25] mel0n, you could just use wicd in /extra if that suitable for you. [18:26] KB1JWQ (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) left irc: Connection timed out [18:26] macius (n=macius@i209-195-81-173.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:26] mel0n, I do and haven't had any trouble with it. [18:26] i have wicd installed but when i try to connect to my wireless it validates then says cant obtain ip :S [18:27] mel0n, that's easy :) it's not so much to do with rc.inet1.conf, but wpa_supplicant.conf [18:27] mel0n: I have the same problem with one of my wireless networks. [18:28] mel0n: You can setup wpa_supplicant.conf and force wpa_supplicant to start up on boot by setting WPA to wpa_supplicant in /etc/rc.d/rc.wireless [18:28] oh really adamk feels good to know someone has the same problem :D did you manage to fix it yet? [18:28] mel0n: Then, once you have wpa_supplicant setup, you can still use wicd to select wireless networks. [18:28] would that fix the "cant obtain ip problem? [18:29] sahko, hm, interesting. I just tried here, and it seems to work OK (that is, vfb.de for example) [18:29] mel0n: It did for me. Don't know the exact logic why, but it worked. [18:30] any links or help on how to set it up? [18:30] I have an infantile question. chmod has always baffled me, how would make a file r,w,x for the owner but only r for everyone else? [18:31] mel0n, yes, you need to create wpa_supplicant.conf for use. it's pretty basic: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network#wpa_encryption [18:31] chmod 744 file [18:31] mel0n: The man page for wpa_supplicant.conf is really complete with lots of good examples. [18:31] ok thanks guys [18:32] StonedSlacker, r=4, w=2, x=1. rwx=4+2+1, r=4, r=4 [18:32] Assuming that everyone else includes group. [18:32] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.73.106) joined ##slackware. [18:33] mel0n, so, take that example, plop it into /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, and edit 2 fields: ssid="shanahan, and psk="your_password" [18:33] I have been using linux for about 15 years I guess and I still have not had that aha moment with chmod [18:33] k [18:33] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.84.237) joined ##slackware. [18:33] StonedSlacker, or u=rwx o=r i think. [18:34] mel0n, for your password, use: "wpa_passphrase shanahan your_text_password" [18:34] i know i had seen this somewhere: The installed Qt version 4.5.3 is too old, at least version 4.6.0 is required. [18:34] s/know/knew [18:34] should i delete everything else in wpa_supplicant.conf? [18:34] that'll translate it to a 64-hex key [18:35] I really hate to right click a file with a file manager and set permissions because I know I sjhould understand that better [18:35] mel0n, or, move it to wpa_supplicant.conf.original [18:35] k [18:35] StonedSlacker, you follow, though? [18:35] StonedSlacker, a good one: http://slackwiki.org/Permissions_and_Umasks [18:38] mel0n, got the file sorted? [18:38] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@cpc2-donc1-0-0-cust57.barn.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:39] I will look at that thrice. Another permission related question, if I, as a user, own a file, then I sudo ln -s it to /usr/bin will the link preserve the permissions of the file it links to? [18:39] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-116-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [18:39] nearly so for psk i put "psk=your_text_password" or "wpa_passphrase shanahan your_text_password" [18:39] mel0n, sorry, that's confusing. first, do "wpa_passphrase shanahan password", and it'll spit back a nice key for you [18:40] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) left irc: "fsck forgot to start a screen session..." [18:40] doomey (n=doomey@188.24.77.78) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:40] hi [18:40] k now what? [18:41] use that key in your wpa_supplicant.conf [18:41] how can i unfreeze my keyboard and mouse after start X? [18:42] ohhh ok i get it now what? [18:42] j4cx: Try this in the server flags section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" [18:43] mel0n, ok, now that wpa_supplicant is ready, we'll run it manually: [18:43] j4cx: is X not registering anything? [18:43] wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [18:43] jg71_ (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) joined ##slackware. [18:43] Nick change: jg71_ -> hocy [18:43] mel0n, once that runs (just takes a second), you should have permission to try wireless, with "dhcpcd wlan0" [18:44] Nick change: hocy -> jg71_ [18:44] mel0n: mind showing me the resultant wpa_supplicant config file (assuming it works)? [18:44] k i entered that. so you mean i should try connect with wicd? [18:44] NaCl: the Xorg.0.log? [18:44] mel0n, you can, but "dhcpcd wlan0" should be enough [18:44] j4cx: no, I mean you start X and you can't move the mouse/type anything [18:45] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:45] it just returned naCL [18:45] thrice: I just had the aha moment, wow I'm dense [18:45] mel0n: tab-complete is your friend [18:45] NaCl: exactly [18:45] NaCl: i can't do anything [18:45] j4cx: make sure HAL is running [18:45] k done dhcpcd wlan0 [18:46] mel0n, and, moment of truth? ping google.com ? [18:46] j4cx: also make sure that dbus is running [18:46] NaCl: how can i see that? [18:46] ps aux | grep hal [18:46] chmod 755 would make it so the owner can rwx and group and others can rx, right? [18:46] StonedSlacker, yes :) [18:46] owner-group-universe [18:47] awesome, now to not kill the brain cells that hold info [18:47] Isn't it User-Group-Other ? [18:47] good luck with that [18:47] mel0n: I'd like to see that wpa_s config file (remove the passphrase) [18:47] ardya: Thanks for the vote of confidence :^D [18:48] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:49] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [18:49] NaCl: i see some numbers after type that command line [18:49] lol, okay I just tried to chmod 755 a symlink in /usr/bin and bash told me it was dangling and it could not chmod it. What am I not getting here? Also should take this to another channel, I don't want to interupt or anger the gods. [18:50] j4cx: that doesn't mean much [18:50] j4cx: it should be more than just numbers [18:50] mel0n_ (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:51] mel0n_: I'd like to see that wpa_s config file (remove the passphrase) [18:51] mel0n_ (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:52] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:52] Nick change: jg71_ -> jg71 [18:52] root__ (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:52] suid0 (i=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [18:53] NaCl: where are the scripts that run the hal and dbus? 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[19:09] uhh, how come sudo no longer asks me for a password, even after reboot? [19:09] i tried coping the default install kernel .config file, then I run make silentoldconfig [19:09] changed some options, like builtin ext3 and ext4 filesystems [19:09] compiled it.. but it keep giving errors on boot [19:12] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Success [19:14] sQuEE (n=narya@190.31.135.217) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:17] vldmr (i=1000@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:17] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [19:18] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:18] confusid (n=confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:21] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [19:21] mel0n (n=mel0n@cpc3-sprt1-0-0-cust230.know.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. 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[19:28] thrice`: looks awfully similar to a wicd-generated config file [19:29] well, rc.inet1.conf worked... :P [19:29] no clue, really [19:30] hrm. every time I enable desktop effects now my system completely hangs. [19:30] thrice`: Ok. Thanks. [19:30] it's a trap, eviljames [19:31] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-171.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:31] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-171.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:32] NaCl, no differences at all? perhaps wpa1 was causing the issues? [19:33] gm152 (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:36] Euthanatos (n=chak@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] hrm.. ati's site says "32-Bit packages must be installed for 64-Bit Linux drivers to install or work." for their closed drivers. [19:38] raela (i=1000@cpe-67-241-25-44.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:41] Where is lilo? I'm trying to chainload into lilo from grub because grub won't recognize my /boot partition link on slackware [19:44] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:46] Euthanatos (n=chak@in-67-236-73-139.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [19:46] eviljames: that makes very little sense [19:47] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@32.97.110.59) left irc: Client Quit [19:48] Hello, I'm using k3b to burn a cd and it has sat at 99% for over 12 hours now. What can I do to fix the burning? [19:48] ugh, was your CD drive spinning for that whole 12 hours? [19:48] should be done in another 3 hours [19:48] confusid: I'd call that a coaster and start over [19:48] update k3b/use cdrtools directly from cli [19:49] if so, it's likely you just blew up your drive... [19:49] confusid: that is if your drive still works [19:50] the one time I ever tried to use kde's built-in cd ripping (whatever it's called), I left it ripping, went to sleep... when I woke up, it was still going, spinning the drive... and that drive's now highly unreliable [19:50] I installed the extra stuff k3b needs as to http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/sdeg/multimedia.htm [19:50] (usually reads CDs, usually can't read DVDs, usually appears to burn CDs OK, but the result is unreadable on any other drive...) [19:51] Urchlay: you should replace it already and put it outa its misery [19:51] alkos333 (n=alkos333@108.100.65.168) joined ##slackware. [19:52] raelakoira (n=raela@cpe-67-241-17-135.twcny.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:55] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-171.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:55] darkwurm: you're telling me. [19:56] But, while the fglrx driver appears to build and work, I get a stack dump at the end of the install wizard. [19:56] and still no desktop effects. [19:58] eviljames: You wouldn't happen to be running on a custom kernel would you? [20:00] haven't gone there... yet. running -current, though. [20:03] eviljames: That notice on their website is incorrect, btw. [20:03] eviljames: What model GPU? [20:03] hey, desktop effects 'work' with radeonhd using Xrender instead of OpenGL, but it is crazy slow :P [20:04] adamk: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3450, but it is a pci-e card, no idea why it reports mobility [20:04] i thought ATI's stuff used DRI instead of glx? [20:04] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: "Leaving" [20:04] Pig_Pen: DRI requires GLX. [20:05] Pig_Pen: those who are different animals [20:05] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-59-116.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:05] eviljames: It's probably using the same PCI ID (maybe even the exact same GPU) as a mobility version. [20:05] eviljames: Other 3D applications work fine? [20:05] adamk: I would expect as much.. glxgears fails to run at all. [20:06] Errrr. [20:06] Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and the output of 'glxinfo'? [20:06] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [20:06] Did you patch the fglrx kernel module sources, btw? [20:06] that was the impression i got from reading a gentoo wiki once, that DRI and GLX were two different implementations of accelerated graphics (3D effects) and users were to enable either one or the other & not both [20:06] Pig_Pen: Not quite. Direct Rendering requires the GLX extension. [20:07] Pig_Pen: You can have GLX without DRI, but not vice versa. [20:07] Pig_Pen: There is also AIGLX, which is accelerated indirect rendering via the glx extension. [20:07] Just to clarify, what I said is true for the open source drivers. With nvidia, it's a whole different ball of wax. [20:08] adamk: Nah, I dove in blind so it serves me right that it doesn't work right away.. glxinfo fails to run at all. [20:08] eviljames: Yeah, /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you why. [20:08] e01 (n=e01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] it's been years since the last time I messed with ati drivers on linux amd it would seem they have made little headway based on this conversation [20:08] eviljames: I am/was under the impression that the fglrx kernel module does not compile against a 2.6.32.* kernel without being patched. [20:09] darkwurm: They've made a lot of headway, in fact. [20:09] darkwurm: Releasing 3D specifications for all cards up to the HD4950, without an NDA, and funding both open source and closed source drivers. [20:09] soo. dri is a layer or frontend for glx for ati and a few other graphics cards to use? i notice nvidia is never in that DRI section in menuconfig >drivers>graphics>dri [20:09] hi [20:09] i have a problem [20:10] adamk: indeed, thats progress for sure [20:10] akSeya (i=c915a27b@gateway/web/freenode/x-wamioccoyyhdkdga) left irc: "Page closed" [20:10] after i upgradet to new kernels [20:10] Pig_Pen: Something like that. As for nvidia not showing up in the menu... Their drivers are closed source. EVentually nouveau will show up there, probably relatively soon, in fact. [20:10] adamk: I will switch back to fglrx (tried radeonhd to compare) in a sec and pastebin the log for that... this is radeonhd log http://pastebin.ca/1767395 and glxinfo output http://pastebin.ca/1767397 [20:10] when i restart i get a kernel panic [20:10] i changed fstab and lilo.conf from /dev/hda to /dev/sda but [20:11] e01: You undoubtedly did not update lilo.conf and /etc/fstab to reflect the new device name for your root parittion. [20:11] now cant make liloconf [20:11] Oh, you did. [20:11] macavity (n=macavity@212088073003.static.sonofon.dk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:12] eviljames: Yeah, well 3D isn't going to work properly with radeonhd if you have any part of the fglrx drivers installed. [20:12] eviljames: 3D acceleration will work on that GPU with 'radeonhd' or 'radeon' if your kernel and Mesa are new enough. [20:12] eviljames: I'm not sure if -current is new enough though. [20:12] e01: did you actually do a lilo after you changed the conf? [20:13] adamk: I had figured as much. Earlier today I tried updating libdrm, Mesa and xf86-video-ati but that failed on me. [20:15] eviljames: if you do decide to use the open source drivers, be sure to check out the radeon KMS thread on linuxquestions. [20:15] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-59-116.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:15] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-59-116.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:15] adamk: fwiw, I'm on 64-current, reverted from those changes. I just installed ati's 9-12 drivers, and they have the same behaviour as the radeonhd [20:15] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-59-116.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] adamk: i hope so too, there is a lot of 64 bit PCs and laptops around with nvidia drivers and as far as open source it just isnt there yet [20:16] eviljames: Well, as I said, I don't believe the fglrx kernel module compiles on 2.6.32.* without patching. [20:16] eviljames: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=554401 [20:17] 16:54 < eviljames> But, while the fglrx driver appears to build and work, I get a stack dump at the end of the install wizard. [20:17] darkwurm, yes but get a message [20:17] eviljames: Yeah, I'm doubtful that it actually built properly :-) [20:17] and 2.6.32.5 [20:17] eviljames: Despite appearances. [20:17] /dev/sda not exists [20:17] or somethink like that [20:17] adamk: i'm fairly certain it did not. [20:18] eviljames: But, as I said, /var/log/Xorg.0.log should hopefully tell you what's going on. [20:19] darkwurm, Fatal: open /dev/sda: No such device or address [20:19] now i am logged with original cd and then chrooted [20:20] adamk: oddly, it looks fine. Screen 0 is not DRI capable doesn't seem right to me though.. http://pastebin.ca/1767406 [20:20] eviljames: And pastebin the output of 'modinfo fglrx' as well, please. [20:21] hrm. modinfo: could not find module fglrx [20:22] FTW. [20:22] Told you :-) [20:23] adamk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnOcycgXpms (nsfw-language) [20:24] Heh. [20:24] adamk, can you help me [20:25] e01: Not really. When I went through the process, it worked just fine. I updated lilo.conf, updated my /etc/fstab, ran lilo, and rebooted. [20:25] eviljames: I suggest taking a look at the patch supplied in that bug report I linked to above and seeing if you can then compile the kernel module. [20:25] I have to head out for a bit. [20:25] adamk: I'm going to do so, many thanks. [20:27] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:27] hm [20:27] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [20:27] i think i get it working now [20:28] or just there is no panic yet :) [20:28] what was the issue> [20:28] ahm ^_^ [20:29] i was editing the boot=/dev/hda to /dev/sda (lilo.conf) [20:29] Stanto (i=Stanto@cpc1-newc7-0-0-cust44.gate.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [20:29] Stanto (i=Stanto@cpc1-newc7-0-0-cust44.gate.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:31] now i was starting liloconfig again to make all hda to sda [20:32] sounds like a plan [20:34] Wellcome to Linux 2.6.32.5 (tty1) [20:34] techwonder (n=techwond@c-76-25-159-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] :D [20:34] alkos333 (n=alkos333@108.100.65.168) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:34] done, after two hours in unbelivable angry and cigarette smoke :) [20:35] now the plan is to install the multilib, but i think that this will go to tomorrow`s task :) [20:35] this is why you should read the changelog before blindly updating :> [20:36] in my country is tradition to first try to make the things and when all is brake down, then read the manual :) [20:37] bazzled (n=baz@D-69-91-149-65.dhcp4.washington.edu) joined ##slackware. [20:38] Action: e01 switching back to desktop [20:39] e01 (n=e01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:41] Is slapt-get automatically installed with the 13.0 dvd with the full install? [20:42] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [20:42] yes [20:42] no [20:42] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [20:42] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578BC4.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:42] sorry, was on a page up and didn't see it paste the first time [20:42] my slapt-get isn't working. no man pages or nothing [20:43] v4nelle (n=van@79.103.187.101.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:43] I'm on 13.0 stable [20:43] it's not installed by default [20:43] the error I get is command not found (running as root) [20:43] It is not offical. [20:43] how can I make this more clear? [20:44] lol [20:44] hello, frustated debian user here, I was wondering do i really have to download all 6 isos to install slackware or is there some sort of base iso like debian????? [20:44] tanamo (n=tanamo@125.252.70.230) joined ##slackware. [20:44] bazzled: full install needs the first 3 cds [20:44] bazzled, no; the first 2 will give you a gui, the 3rd installs KDE, and the last 3 are source. the DVD is the easiest route, though [20:45] i am looking to move for many reasons, including a lack of abilty to choose what software is packaged with other software such as at being packaged with a mta. [20:46] I installed the full DVD. I know I have used slapt-get before. For some unknown reason, it now won't work at all even though whereis shows it in /etc [20:46] techwonder: download slapt-get, and then it'll work [20:46] techwonder, IT'S NOT INSTALLED BY DEFAULT [20:46] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-171.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:46] lol... [20:46] anything? [20:46] I'll try and download it then, thx [20:47] hmm was that 3 times or 5 lost count [20:47] Yo, dudes. Look at my output from rkhunter when greped for Warning URL: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/LmcJdz36.html [20:47] InvaderZim (n=gir@189.107.51.36) joined ##slackware. [20:47] hmmmm...I have a crappy old laptop, p4 1.6ghz, rewriteable cd drive (no dvd ), Even downloading 3 cds will take forever [20:47] help. i patched uvcvideo module for a webcam to work, and it worked, but the module was at /extra/ and the old one at the kernel tree. so after rebooting it stopped working. dmesg now gives errors typical of a module requiring a newer kernel... now i cant revert back to the old error message before patching (which was just one line of error)... I think depmod or someth has cached the problematic uvcvideo module symbols, and doesnt matter which driver i [20:48] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [20:48] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [20:50] help! [20:52] so theres no sort of base iso, that i could just possibly copy the files i need to like (like that those horrible b43 (broadcom 4306) firmware files) and just boot that and have it download the rest, I am very specific about the software i will use, I am (sort of) a fan of xfce, (i dont trust KDE), I dislike GNOME (it feels like deformed evil stepchild of the mac os UI and windows breeded by some evil scientist. i use qemu (with kq [20:52] emu), audacious, vlc, a chat client, I doubt i will use even a 1/3 of the software on those 3 cds. [20:53] hey, gnome came before the osx gui [20:54] so no one? [20:54] neat nooper, i did not know that..... [20:54] InvaderZim: is your computer named Dib? [20:55] no, its gir [20:55] hehe [20:55] InvaderZim, I have been with linux a few years now, i should know more and in your case i am clueless myself what to do. [20:55] :D [20:55] thanks anyway ehh [20:56] Gnome still feels like some evil scientist UI to me, i perfer XFCE for size, speed, features but i do wish it was more stable (or at least the build in debian) [20:57] heh, i am going to check out the wiki, Its hard to justify downloading 3 cds to try anything even what i consider the oidest surving grandparent of the other linux distros.. [20:58] what wiki? [20:59] bazzled, blahblah, just download the dvd then [21:00] lol.. apparently he can't use a dvd, even if he downloads it [21:00] because he has no burner [21:00] thrice`: shushhhh don't give out the secrets. [21:00] hm [21:01] i have been spolied by 1 cd installs. I have used since deciding to leave MS Domination land (ubuntu, ditched that for simplymepis (learned kde was flaky) and switched to Xubuntu, ditched that for debain, back to xubuntu out of curosity (lloks like, not stable) and back to debian, All of them 1 Cd boot, install and the usual download and install package routine, i been around the debian tree at lot, and feel the branches all are t [21:01] oo alike [21:01] which wiki, the slack wiki [21:02] you can install slackware with 1CD just fine, you'll just have to grab the rest of the packages afterwards [21:04] thrice`: why the advice to download 2 or 3 cds then [21:04] my advise was to download the DVD. the comment was that a full install, including kde, will require 3. [21:04] I'd rather download 1 cd and download a bunch of packages then download 2 or 3 cds packaged with a lot of software i wont use [21:04] okay, would somebody please suggest a better channel to post this on? [21:04] http://www.slackware.com/torrents/ [21:04] shows the contents of the Cd's [21:05] ah, i see, I Have no need for KDE, Xfce meets most of my needs just fine... [21:05] as you can see, ISO2 includes FAQ's, kernel source, tetex, TCL bindings, x.org, x-applications (including xfce, firefox, etc) [21:05] StonedSlacker: ? [21:05] so, you *can* do an install with CD1, and grab the x/ and xap/ sets afterwards [21:06] I also dont have the best network even though i am at the UW which has a major internet traffic hub right next to the campus [21:06] thrice, i have a look , hang on [21:06] How do I pass variables to the script.slackbuild? Do I add them in the script or on command line? [21:06] The output from rkhunter greped for 'Warning' I was just hoping someone could tell me what they thought its here URL: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/LmcJdz36.html [21:06] confusid, you can do it at run-time; ARCH="x86_64" ./script.SlackBuild [21:07] confusid: ARCH=x86_64 ./script.SlackBuild [21:07] lol [21:07] ty [21:07] this is going to be a long line ;p [21:08] confusid: you can also edit it manually to change stuff in ./configure [21:08] StonedSlacker: did you add yourself to the wheel group and then change visudo for the wheel group to not need a password? [21:09] no, I didnt do anything like that. I havent been doing anything but tweaking compiz and building the packages I was short [21:09] Thrice, not on my machine, i have downloaded a torrent client yet, This is almost a brand new install of debian, Xfce is already having major issues (i suspect the old build) for example: I have to start xfwm4 manually and theres some odd error message in the /var/log/gdm about hal though i dont remember doing anything invloving removing of installing hal , any lists i can view with a browser ??? [21:09] StonedSlacker: Put the contents of /etc/sudoers in a pastebin [21:09] StonedSlacker: well that's the only reason i can think of as to why when you sudo it wouldn't prompt for a password. as for rkhunter, i don't even know what that is. [21:10] rootkit hunter agentc0re [21:10] looks for rootkits installed [21:10] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/zWhTdN16.html [21:11] WARNING: Your computer is plugged in and turned on... Turn off to avoid the unexpected.... [21:11] oh shit, I just realised something [21:11] lurker? awesome [21:11] that you shouldn't be stoned while sudoing? [21:11] lol [21:11] agentc0re: this sounds like my experience over the last month with xubuntu and debain [21:12] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:12] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [21:12] I also ran a python script to communicate with dbus I was also running another script to go with it, xdotool, both for compiz [21:12] i'm running xfce flawlesst [21:12] flawlessy* [21:12] not that i am a novice user (though i admit i should know a lot more by now) but have been distracted by many things [21:12] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-153-71.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:13] bazzled: i don't see why, but okay. I don't understand how you can do a fresh install of X and then just start to randomly have issues. Which in fact you make it seem like they happen on their own.... is you're area full of high cosmic activity? ;) [21:13] the only good thing i can say about xubuntu is for novice users it is possible to avoid the command line mostly and its xfce themes look very nice. [21:14] Reticenti, would I add the items tords the top near.. Version Prgname? [21:14] above the if statments? [21:14] confusid: are you talking about the slackbuild? [21:15] yes [21:15] I just now burn one, first one of the day [21:15] well see you later slackers [21:15] agentc0re: nor do i, the last few things i did was disable some scripts in the S runleve, (nfs scripts, rpc ) and tried to copy some themes (the ones in /usr/share/themes ) from xubuntu to debain, and it was trashed, i reversed all my changes but i still have major issues [21:15] InvaderZim (n=gir@189.107.51.36) left ##slackware. [21:15] The first script is compiz-send.py. from the compiz wiki. The same wiki suggested it be used with xdotool, another script [21:16] I'll be back. I gotta chill for minute [21:16] confusid: if you need to pass it variables, I'd do that at calling time. If you need to change the ./configure options, i'd do that by editing the slackbuild and adding it in in the appropriate section [21:17] agentc0re: when i do get x started, my panel is like 200 pixels tall and until i go into the xfce settings and change the panel size (which shows me having a 24 pixel panel), its allways like that. I may have removed something with aptitude but what i did is gone because bash is on the default history setting of 500 lines..... [21:17] StonedSlacker: do you have CCSM? [21:17] bazzled: if you removed something with aptitude you're in the wrong channel [21:17] cityLights (n=cityLigh@bzq-84-111-46-151.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] suid0 (i=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "Leaving" [21:18] hi all [21:18] StonedSlacker: because the dbus thing comes defualt when you install the entire compiz package from slackbuilds.org [21:18] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-153-71.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "rcirc on GNU Emacs 22.3.1" [21:19] i am just about done with debian, I appreciate everything they have done for the community , but i dont want some pre-packaged glob, i want something configureable, if i need at to be installed because a script uses it fine, not a issue but i dont need exim4 so i can recieve bloody error messages, i used to code assembly the amount of code to print something to the screen is a lot smaller than a bloody mta. [21:19] j4cx (n=j4ck@adsl190-28-93-78.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [21:19] why can't user A remove files that user B created that bare the permitions: -rw-rw-rw- ? [21:19] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-5-22.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:20] Reticenti, That is the problem.. adding it to ./configure I do not know the appropriate section [21:20] cityLights: because removing files depends on the permissions of the directory said file resides in [21:20] confusid: look for the part that says ./configure [21:20] Reticenti, ty [21:20] its the debain package bindings that really piss me off, idont want exim4, i dont even need cups ( i dont use a printer in fact i hate printers and find them useless for most of my daily activities) anyways , you get the point, it sounds like slackware offers a break from that [21:21] confusid: see here: http://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/13.0/games/advancescan/advancescan.SlackBuild [21:21] yes. using slackware will give you an entitlement to bitch and whine. [21:21] ananke: permitions of the dir is drwxrwxrwt [21:21] cityLights: notice 't'. sticky bit. only owners can remove files. [21:21] confusid: it's about the 3rd or 4th section [21:21] cityLights, who owns it, though? [21:21] cityLights: owners of said files can remove them that is. [21:22] Reticenti, ty :) [21:22] debains install dosent even ask you what packages you want, it justs installs what it likes, (thats so windows) [21:22] ok, how to allow user A to remove files made by user A? [21:22] bazzled: the way to stop cups in slackware: "/etc/rc.d/rc.cups stop && chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.cups" [21:22] bazzled, really, we don't care for much more of your debian bitching. anything else you want to know about slackware? [21:22] cityLights: files created by user A can be removed by user A [21:23] anyways enough of my bitching [21:23] bazzled: thank you [21:23] yeah, do i have to have cups installed if i am not using a printer????? [21:23] both users are in the same group... [21:24] functionoverform (n=mranders@adsl-76-224-78-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:24] bazzled: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Omg2.png [21:24] bazzled: nope, you can choose everything to be installed at installation [21:24] and yeah, that list of files for the 1st couple of cd's in html format (where can i find it) [21:24] cityLights: it has nothing to do with the group. it's the sticky bit [21:24] ananke: lmao!!!!!!1 ;) [21:24] errr... [21:24] bazzled: here: google.com [21:24] cityLights: again, all bets are off when you're talking about a dir with a sticky bit, such as /tmp [21:25] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.84.237) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:25] agentc0re: i thought it was appropriate :) [21:25] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [21:25] ananke: very appropriate, i wish i would have known about this image ages ago. [21:25] so the answer is not to user the tmp dir? [21:25] cityLights: correct [21:25] thanks [21:25] cityLights: and for the directory to have group writeable permissions [21:26] cityLights: what are you trying to accomplish anyway? [21:26] cityLights: any user can save to temp but whatever user saves it is the user than can delete it(for the most part). [21:26] no problem [21:26] thnaks [21:26] of to dream [21:26] in black and white... [21:27] Excellent!!!!! no cups no exim4, sounds like heaven and i actually look forward to configuring more stuff on my own (like timestamps on my bash history etc) , yeah i give it a shot as soon as i figure out all the crap i have to backup on my debain parition [21:27] cityLights (n=cityLigh@bzq-84-111-46-151.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: "Leaving" [21:27] bazzled: your keyboard seems to be stuck [21:27] bazzled: you dont have a /home partition? [21:28] Action: ananke is looking forward to having bazzled in ##slackware more often [21:29] ananke: yeah me too!!!! [21:29] nah, you can only have 4 primary partitions, and I learned long ago that secondary or extended paritions just cause a lot of inflexabilty, i do have a parition i throw everything on though (all data, no linux install there) [21:29] LVM is clearly the way to go. :) [21:29] right. extended partitions are so much inflexible in comparison to primary ones. [21:30] Action: ananke has a picture of square wheels being compared to triangle ones [21:30] i like my distro in one partition, and most of my downloads and most (not all ) of my data in another, it allows me to experment with multiple distros without using being restricted to virtual machines all the time etc [21:30] Action: rworkman goes to get the trapezoid wheels. [21:31] hmm. haven't considered that particular shape. good for winter driving [21:32] besides i have one /home parition and a distro install overwrites some of my files or settings without asking i have lost them, oh yeah i could restore them from backups but when you have done like um 20 additions to things since your backup that be a hassle [21:33] ugh, break time i am typing so fast i am missing words in my sentences, time for a break for the keyboard [21:33] StonedSlacker (i=1000@cpe-024-074-030-171.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:33] aaw :( [21:33] heh, you probably need a break from my keyboard typing as bloody well, Haaah!!! [21:34] yes. very much so [21:35] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.73.106) left irc: "Leaving" [21:35] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:37] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [21:37] oh bugger, does the slackware kernel have the rt patchset like debian and ubuntu? [21:37] no [21:38] oh well, time to me to learn to do it myself [21:39] bazzled: http://rt.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RT_PREEMPT_HOWTO#Installation [21:39] thanx fire|bird [21:42] j4cx (n=j4ck@adsl190-28-93-78.epm.net.co) left irc: "leaving" [21:42] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:43] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:44] mbohun (n=mbohun@202.124.73.36) joined ##slackware. [21:46] package transcode is asking for xvid when I look on slackbuild or use slackpkg I'm not seeing it. Is there another place to find it? [21:47] confusid: what package are you trying to build? [21:47] confusid: and xvid is here: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/xvidcore/ [21:48] redness, transcode http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/transcode/ [21:48] redness, ty [21:50] wrong r :) [21:50] j4cx (n=j4ck@adsl190-28-93-78.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [21:50] confusid: slackware doesnt do dependency generation for you, you have to do eveerything manually [21:50] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:51] somebody know why can't i start X after run the hal and dbus daemon scripts? [21:52] eddief (n=root@pool-141-157-217-105.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:52] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:52] eddief kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [21:52] redness, that is part of the reason I wanted to go with slackware.. to learn! and it runs nicely on my computer! [21:52] that's mean, what if he cant connect w/o being root.. [21:52] tired of the click and go [21:53] lol [21:53] confusid: i'm not redness [21:53] ak.. [21:53] sorry [21:53] :) [21:53] used Tab to get name faster.. Next time I'll read before hitting Enter ;p [21:53] :) [21:53] or jsut do ret [21:54] :) [21:54] with the lack of getting dependency's... wow..... :) Lot of work [21:54] not really [21:55] confusid: this makes it really easy: http://www.sbopkg.org/ [21:57] not so much work [21:58] i had more trouble keeping fedora running than satisfying dependencies on slack [21:59] that's what's so ironic about this whole dependency thing. the official community stance on dependencies is: 'they suck! we don't need no stinkin deps!'. yet when users want software that's not part of slackware, the popular vote goes to sbo, which uses deps [21:59] AUUUGHGHHHHGHHHHHHHHH [21:59] I dropped my keys on my screen this evening and made a little scratch right in the middle [21:59] time for a new laptop [22:00] ananke: sbo doesn't really do deps...just lists them [22:00] nyRednek: it uses them to fetch those deps and builds them in order [22:00] ananke: really...i've never seen it do that [22:01] ananke, no it doesn't. Not last i checked. You can make a build queue yourself if you want. That's similar perhaps [22:01] ananke: yeah, you have to add them yourself in order [22:01] ananke: how would you unlock said function? [22:01] by writing it yourself in C [22:01] i must be confused then. i thought last time i used it, it selected those for me [22:02] ananke: slacky does deps using slapt [22:02] ananke: maybe you're thinking of slaptget [22:02] but sbo hasn't done any dependency resolution to my knowledge [22:03] yeah, i've never seen dep resolution in sbo [22:04] never has, indeed [22:04] Reticenti: me either... [22:04] I do wish sbopkg had an easier way to handle gathering the deps up. You can view the README and see what you need, but then you have to open up vim or something and write them down and then search for each one. [22:04] hiptobecubic: you must havea bad memory... [22:04] you can also add them in reverse order and reverse them once they're all i queue [22:05] Reticenti, it's easy enough when there's only a few, but try building something complex with ten dependencies, some of which have their own dependencies [22:05] yeah [22:05] Reticenti, sure, but you have to keep going back to the original and looking. It's just not layed-out well. [22:05] hiptobecubic: yeah, i agree, that is one thing that slighlty bugs me [22:06] Action: nyRednek thinks we just caught ananke talking out his ass [22:06] The only other complaint i have is that it doesn't do a good job of letting you know the version that you're installing or that you already have installed [22:06] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:07] hiptobecubic: it does notify you of both [22:07] give ananke credit, he's a suse user :> [22:07] thank god for that :) [22:07] nyRednek, only in certain places. Not ... for example... when you're looking at the queue [22:07] it's OK, you can keep pretending [22:07] :) [22:07] pretending what exactly? [22:08] um, hm. brb? [22:08] thrice`: yeah, it's ratther odd to see a yast addict sitting in a slackware chan for this long [22:08] s/ratther/rather [22:09] nyRednek: just because somebody uses suse, doesn't make them a 'yast addict', whatever that might mean [22:09] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:09] ananke: what version of suse? [22:09] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [22:09] and yes, right now i have a much larger number of suse servers [~300] and workstations [~100] than slackware ones [>30] [22:09] yast is the tool that configures everything in a nice clean gui... [22:10] i've not found a good way around yast on suse [22:10] nyRednek: i know what yast is, but being a suse user doesn't make you a 'yast addict' [22:10] I'm on openSUSE atm, I'm not a yast addict, I do really like zypper though. [22:10] pupit: right now vast majority are opensuse 11.x and sles 9/10/11 [22:10] sles is?... [22:10] nyRednek: try using a keyboard, maybe even mouse [22:10] pupit: suse linux enterprise server [22:11] how can i unfrozee my keyboard and mouse after start x? [22:11] ananke: i know how to use it...i just haven't seen a way to make persistent changes without launching that ugly beast [22:11] nyRednek: that's interesting. i make system changes without yast all the time. [22:12] last time I messed with suse (10+ years ago), yast was smart enough to notice that I'd edited config files, and would refuse to touch them (which is what I wanted) [22:12] nyRednek: but it's ok. i understand if you're not sure how to manage it [22:13] ananke: each time i attempted to change something...yast would overwrite my changes with its config [22:13] Urchlay: that behavior has been retained. [22:13] can't believe modern yast has taken a huge step backwards... [22:13] ananke: what is special for suse for you? [22:13] s/for suse/about suse [22:14] i thought it odd, since no other distro has done anything quite like that on me [22:14] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:14] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [22:15] pupit: it has the software library i need, ability to easily tie in with ldap, it's easier to deal with various software/hardware vendors, i can deploy it and manage upgrades much easier than with slackware. it allows my sysadmin team to focus on managing software solutions more than just dealing with the underlying os [22:15] redhat 5.x and 6.x used to blow away my carefully-edited conf files, was the reason I went back to slack all those years ago [22:15] Urchlay: i only used redhat 5.2 in that series [22:15] pupit: over the past few years i've migrated a lot of slackware servers to suse, mostly because of the features missing in slackware and the effort required to implement them [22:16] Urchlay: as of redhat 8, 9, it seemed to allow your manual edits to stay as you left them [22:16] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [22:16] ananke: seems reasonable to keep suse [22:16] pupit: of course, this is our scenario. not applicable to everybody [22:17] nyRednek: my old job back then, every workstation and server was installed with whatever version of whatever distro the guy doing the install felt like using. Very heterogeneous environment (very painful when I got appointed Lord High Sysadmin...) [22:17] pupit: indeed. although i still have slackware 8.1, 10.2 and 11.0 in production :) [22:17] mquin (i=mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) left irc: Connection timed out [22:17] Urchlay: yeah...some homogeny would have been nice [22:17] haha 8.1? :D [22:18] what's the kernel on it? [22:18] yep. 8.1 is a release that will never die, despite pat hoping so. some 2.6.x kernel [22:18] eventually everything got replaced with slackware, or would have except the company went under due to the boss snorting all the profits... [22:18] Urchlay: that sucks [22:18] gods damn, irssi's lag-o-meter says 12.32 seconds... wtf [22:19] Urchlay: one would think that a cocaine habit is well known as bad for business [22:19] I ran 8.1 for a long time, was very stable [22:20] pupit: over the years i've learned to appreciate value in every software/hardware solution, and i'm not automatically opposed to any. we pick whatever works, we don't try to force a square peg into a round hole [22:20] bazzled (n=baz@D-69-91-149-65.dhcp4.washington.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:20] Ping reply from Urchlay : 24.2 day(s) [22:20] hmm [22:20] nyRednek: well sure. but what were we gonna do? stage an intervention? [22:20] XGizzmo_: sounds about right [22:20] Urchlay: i'd say lock him in the closet for a weekend [22:20] Urchlay: of course, stock that closet with food, water, and a jar for excrement [22:21] standard hollywood script for an intervention begins "We all care about you and we're concerned about..." [22:21] ananke: I understnd you ;) [22:21] Reticenti, ty trying it out now [22:21] our version would have been more like "We all hate you and think you're a prick, but we're concerned about..." [22:21] nyRednek: the Trainspotting treatment? [22:21] ananke: so suse could be more applicable for home use tnan sles? [22:22] s/than/tnan [22:22] The MarvellSheevaPlug link on www.slackware.com is broken :-/ Should be extranet.marvell.com instead of www.marvell.com [22:22] Urchlay: by the time you came back in monday morning, he'd be done with physical dependence...and have a note taped to his monitor, "you think *that* was rough, touch coke again and see what happens" [22:23] pupit: opensuse, yes. best comparison would be: opensuse to sles is what fedora is to rhel. although a lot of people, including me, will argue that opensuse's quality is much higher than fedora's [22:23] What was so great about 8.1? [22:24] hiptobecubic: not sure, skipped straight from 4.0 to 10.1 [22:24] nyRednek, haha. damn [22:24] hiptobecubic: probably nothing special, it's just the one I happened to install and not reinstall/upgrade for 5+ years [22:24] hiptobecubic: it was 8.1. everything just worked, it seemed like a major leap from the previous ones. you had packages with more than 8 chars in their names [22:24] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:24] I didn't join the Church until right after 12.2 [22:25] i went from 3.6 to 4.0...to 10.1...to 12.0 [22:25] and like Urchlay said, 8.1 was something that a lot of people either installed or upgraded to, and haven't touched since then [22:25] o_O [22:25] ananke, but why? If they aren't the upgrade-type then why aren't they still running 8.0? [22:25] and i didn't like 12.0 so i went down to 11.1 [22:25] eh, 8.1 was what I used on my workstation at a job I had for 5+ years. Don't have that job no more... [22:25] and waited for 12.1 [22:25] hiptobecubic: because pat supports 8.1, but not 8.0 [22:26] ananke, oh still? security patches? [22:26] yah [22:26] so as long as pat provides security fixes for 8.1, a lot of those boxes will stay in place [22:26] bet he loves that :D [22:27] well, damn...if i knew that, i'd install 8.1 on this pentium II box [22:27] haha [22:28] keep in mind, the version jumped from 4 to 7, so i didn't miss many releases between [22:29] version number inflation is hilarious [22:30] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [22:30] How does that work though? Upstream on all of these projects are backporting security fixes? Or is Pat backporting them himself? Or just upgrading to newer versions of things? Isn't that how the distro moves forward anyway? [22:31] good question [22:32] isn't the apache 1.3.x series officially dead, no more security fixes? (if so, check & see if 8.1's patches/ contains an apache 2.x package?) [22:33] hiptobecubic: pat usually upgrades to newer version of software, rather than porting patches [22:33] new minor versions, though. [22:33] if they're available [22:33] I'd think Pat would stop supporting http before bumping major versions [22:34] apache* [22:34] and any old slack version that shipped with firefox 1.x/2.x or the old mozilla suite... ugh [22:34] mozilla project has a tendency to murder their old versions before the new one's really ready for prime time, IMO [22:35] just yesterday i had the pleasure of dealing with upgrading bind on slack 10.2. going from bind 9.3 to 9.4 was fun, since they changed default behavior of certain aspects of bind [22:36] techwonder_ (n=techwond@c-76-25-159-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] probably not as annoying as upgrading from bind 8.x to 9.x (can't remember all the details now, but I remember that sucking pretty hard) [22:36] yeah. that was a major pita. [22:37] and sendmail 8 to 9 [22:37] ananke: on this page http://software.opensuse.org/112/en on DVD is both gnome and kde? [22:38] pupit: i think so. haven't used dvd installers in years, i do all my installs via pxe [22:38] oraqol (n=oraqol@ool-43564cab.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [22:39] one thing i sometimes wished for was an archive of all consecutive patches for slackware releases. pat's methodology of removing previous versions has proven to be problematic for us a few times [22:40] m0n-E (n=m0ney@adsl-70-233-149-86.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:41] it's a sign, that after 8 years of support, it's time for you to upgrade [22:41] oraqol (n=oraqol@ool-43564cab.dyn.optonline.net) left ##slackware. [22:41] KB1JWQ_ (i=KB1JWQ@freenode/staff/kb1jwq) joined ##slackware. [22:41] i'm not talking about slackware 8.1, i'm talking about every slackware release [22:42] anyone know how I can access my flashdrive? fdisk -l shows it as /dev/sda [22:42] although i'm sure that argument would be easily turned around if you were trying to convince somebody about why slackware is worth using: 'hey, it still has patches for 8 year old release' [22:43] techwonder: if it has a filesystem, then you can mount it [22:43] techwonder_ (n=techwond@c-76-25-159-2.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:44] It should have a linux distro on it [22:44] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [22:44] techwonder: fdisk -l should have shown you what partitions are on it [22:45] my linux server box keeps on dropping the ethernet connection to the router since I installed new memory in it. It does not have a monitor so my only connection with it is through ssh which times out. [22:45] How can I go about troubleshooting this? [22:45] Nick change: KB1JWQ_ -> KB1JWQ [22:45] cryptic0: remove that new memowy [22:46] can bad memory cause problems like this? [22:46] apparently, it doesn't have a partition on it...I can't access it in a windows box either... [22:46] bad memory can cause a lot of odd symptoms [22:46] bad memory can cause all kinds of head-scratcher problems [22:46] if you can, hook up a monitor/keyboard and run memtest86 [22:47] techwonder: cfdisk /dev/sda [22:47] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] did it [22:47] (though I've seen sticks of RAM go bad in such a way that memtest86 didn't find anything wrong with them, yet they caused weird problems when used for normal operation....) [22:47] techwonder: the reason for taking it out is simple: it's the first step in debugging. it worked before you did X. you did X. it stopped working. you remove X. you verify whether it works [22:47] doh, i meant cryptic0 [22:47] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:48] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [22:48] i just noticed that slack 3.6 is no longer available for download [22:48] i've seen machines not boot, when firmware on memory chips didn't match [22:48] ananke: you're right :). I will try that. [22:48] shows 8gig part type pri/log fs type free space [22:48] if the memory was incompatible, it should not show up right? [22:49] free -m indicates newly added memory. [22:49] j4cx (n=j4ck@adsl190-28-93-78.epm.net.co) left irc: "leaving" [22:49] techwonder: means its unalockated, have to create partitions [22:50] unallocated* [22:51] if the memory's incompatible, usually it won't physically plug in to the slot... [22:51] ananke: is it possible that both memory modules have to be similar (in my box, one is at least 6 years old and 1 brand new kingston) [22:52] I want to be able to use it between my linux and windows boxes...how do I do that since I use Slackware64? [22:52] i.e. no wine [22:52] cryptic0: possibly [22:52] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-230.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:53] techwonder: will you store files larger than 2GB? [22:53] ananke: I will remove old memory first to see if that solves problem [22:53] maybe [22:53] techwonder: create ntfs then [22:53] cryptic0: you also may want to check 'ifconfig' and see if it shows any errors, collisions, etc [22:53] do you know the command to do that? [22:54] cryptic0: it's possible with changing memory you bumped your cables and they're not seated properly [22:54] ananke: I have hardcoded dd-wrt to assign a specific ip address to that box [22:54] techwonder: mkfs.ntfs [22:54] cryptic0: and what does that have to do with anything? [22:54] and I do that within cfdisk? [22:55] techwonder: no [22:55] ananke: in case there was an ip conflict that was making the connection drop [22:55] right now it says fs type linux [22:55] techwonder: mkfs.ntfs is a program you use to apply a filesystem to a partition [22:55] cryptic0: running 'ifconfig' without any options doesn't change anything. it displays information about your network interfaces [22:55] techwonder: http://slackbook.org/html/book.html#INSTALLATION-PARTITIONING [22:57] techwonder: you should make some partiotion in cfdisk, save the changes, and run mkfs.ntfs /dev/sda1 if sda1 is the "partition" ... I've forgot does he need to unmount it first... [22:57] alkos333 (n=alkos333@173-111-63-232.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. [22:57] I think rtfm should be applied [22:57] mfillpot: agree :) [22:59] that makes sense. do I need to umount it first? [22:59] yes [23:00] do I need to write before quiting in cfdisk? [23:00] techwonder: did you read that link i gave you? [23:01] yes, I think...I read the part about partitioning but it was for hard drives [23:02] techwonder: do you use the same tool to format stuff in windows? [23:02] how did you manage to install slack in the first place? it requires you to set up partitions [23:03] kslen (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:03] how do you manage to "think" you've read something? ether you did or you didn't. If you did you probably wouldn't be asking about cfdisk, rather fdisk. Please take the time to read that book and learn some basics. [23:03] techwonder: just read the link that agentc0re gave, the slackbook has been on the installation disk of every version of slack that I have installed from disk. It is there to help you learn. [23:03] techwonder: yes you need to write the partitions [23:04] reread and saw that thx [23:04] hitest: aaaah you blew the fun eading slackbook :) [23:04] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@71.104.224.127) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:04] reading* [23:04] pupit: hehe [23:05] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@71.104.224.127) joined ##slackware. [23:05] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-17-149.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:05] sorry, lots of pain killers in the system...not thinking to clearly [23:05] too clearly [23:06] then you may consider not making any drastic changes until you sober up [23:06] not a good time to be installing slack then [23:06] quite a bit of information is included on the installation disk and in the OS after installations, use the documentation or you do not receive the full benefit of running slackware. [23:07] not installing slack. It is already on my hard drive. Just trying to use my flashdrive to shuttle programs [23:07] txt files and such [23:07] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [23:07] yeah, we don't suggest changing to linux drunk [23:08] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:08] the flashdrive is considered a hard drive, treat it as such when attempting modifications [23:08] I wouldn't either. Opiates for gout [23:08] linux installation, and, particularly, slack installation should be done drunk only by seasoned professionals [23:09] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:09] As long as it is good Irish Wiskey [23:09] Plasmius (i=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) joined ##slackware. [23:09] whiskey [23:09] can't spell today either [23:10] I've done the install drunk a few times, the only screw up is when I installed in expert mode drunk [23:10] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) joined ##slackware. [23:10] lol [23:10] mfillpot: then again, you've been using slack for at least a decade, no? [23:10] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:10] had no problem being drunk while installing Ubuntu a few years ago...definately not slack... [23:11] nyRednek: Since 9.0, so it has been a few years [23:11] 9.0? n00b [23:12] i was installing 10.x drunk on my home network [23:12] nyRednek: yeah,I'm still a bit new, but even in this much time I still learn new things everyday [23:12] mfillpot: so do i, tbh [23:12] mfillpot: well, not every day...i don't use the computer every day anymore [23:12] techwonder: what counts as good irish whiskey? I've had Bushmill's, dunno if it's considered good or not but I like it [23:12] i just screen out and go my way [23:12] guess I'm a n00b too, started with Slack 10.0:) [23:13] that is one of the reasons why I stick with it, there are always soooo many great tools for me to learn about and utilize to do things better [23:13] i started with 10.0 too :-D [23:13] Action: nyRednek started with 3.6 [23:13] cool [23:13] an english major told me to use slackware [23:13] and i'm kinda tweaked that pat removed 3.6 off the ftp server [23:13] he told me it was the oldest [23:13] hitest: gotta start some where.. but probably doesn't really ever count on where you start. i started out with 11.0 my self. [23:13] when were 9.0 and 10.0 released? [23:13] and that was why i should use it [23:14] 10 was released in 2004 [23:14] I have 3.0 on cd with unleashed book...never got it to install though...went to fedora 1 instead [23:14] Rain (n=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) joined ##slackware. [23:14] 9.0 in 2003 [23:15] fhobia: "You shouldn't let poets lie to you." [23:15] no, really...does anyone have a 3.6 archive? [23:15] I started with redhat9, it sucks, as soon as I found slack I dropped win*** and never went back. [23:15] has anyone had any problems with dhcp after the recent updates in current ? [23:15] nyRednek: why do you need 3.6? (I don't have it) [23:16] Scuzz: You will until you merge /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.new [23:16] I started Linux with Caldera OpenLinux 2.3 in 2002 then went to deadrat 9.0 [23:16] Scuzz: it is a little bit slower leasing, but it still works fine [23:16] mege ? [23:16] merge* [23:16] nyRednek: just googled for slackware "3.6", found: http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-3.6/ [23:16] this is on a clean install [23:16] it looks complete [23:17] Scuzz: vimdiff /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.new /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 [23:17] that server goes back to slackware 3.0 [23:17] thanx guys [23:17] Urchlay: just found it too... [23:17] Urchlay: didn't kernel.org keep an archive of slack from version 1.0 at one time? [23:18] wescotte (n=wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:18] Scuzz: Which version of SLackware? [23:18] I dunno, I remember seeing a 1.0 archive sometime in the past couple years [23:18] http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-3.0/ [23:18] no idea where though [23:18] current [23:18] I'd like to find a copy of 1.0 slackware [23:18] http://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/ has 3.3 but not 3.6 [23:18] Yeah, what sitwon said applies. [23:18] and this server is fast with a big pipe [23:18] k thanx [23:19] i had no issues with 64 current [23:19] but this one box is jsut a pain [23:19] riken_ (n=riken@124.106.44.139) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:19] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-16-230.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:20] I just noticed that pat has a packages for kde 3.5.10 for 13.0 on the mirrors [23:20] Anyone know if they make adapters for standard 4pin 12V PS connectors to ATX_12v_2x connectors? [23:20] wescotte: probably, the make adapters for almost everything [23:21] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-17-179.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:22] Anyone have a X58 board? Do you need this 8pin connector thingy? It looks like it's just the additonal connector for a P4 but it's two of them.. Can you get away with one if you don't use an EXTREME chip? 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[23:26] heya,folks [23:26] MLanden: yo [23:26] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [23:26] heya,mfillpot...saw your posting for installing firefox 3.6 on the 64bit..holdin' up well? [23:27] MLanden: That was a stable build, it just didn't have libnotidy support, pat's packages which were released the next day are a better bet. I only wrote that because after 3 days of someone complaining on linux.com I went ahead and asked about it in here. [23:28] pupit1 (n=p@109.93.233.219) joined ##slackware. [23:28] pupit (n=p@109.93.234.170) left irc: Success [23:28] fraktil (n=fraktil@96.248.224.241) left irc: Connection timed out [23:28] MLanden: and it is good to see that some people read my posts [23:28] pupit1 (n=p@109.93.233.219) left irc: Client Quit [23:28] pupit (n=p@109.93.233.219) joined ##slackware. [23:29] MLanden: have you read the one about virtual partitions? [23:29] does ssh store log somewhere? [23:29] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-17-149.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:29] cryptic0: ssh or sshd? [23:29] powtrix| (n=powtrix@189-69-17-179.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:29] mfillpot: sshd [23:30] fraktil (n=fraktil@ip68-227-80-107.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:30] mfillpot, no....was just googlin' on mozilla's use of libnotify and notice your post [23:32] cryptic0: have you checked /var/log/messages? [23:32] MLanden: :( [23:32] mfillpot, readin' it now....:D [23:33] MLanden: I have been trying to come up with good tip for security and slackware for the range of users [23:35] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:35] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [23:36] mfillpot, good article [23:36] MLanden: I thought so, but it has only had ~250 hits so far [23:38] i use iptbale to prevent ssh bruteforces [23:38] mfillpot, hopefully more will read it...:D [23:39] AcEg33k (i=1000@121.245.46.143) joined ##slackware. [23:39] powtrix_ (n=powtrix@189-69-16-113.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:39] could i get a link to this thing more pople shoiuld read? [23:40] toastytoast: http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/linux-security-tip-of-the-day-buildingusing-encrypted-virtual-partitions.html [23:40] I'm out for the night, if you like the article please leave a comment about it. goodnight all [23:41] ty [23:41] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [23:41] kslen (n=idkfa@static229-147.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. 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