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(reading is hard) [00:12] Utility: isn't tar syntax: tar -xf [tarfile] [list of files to extract] [00:12] i use tar -xjf [00:12] and only one file at a time [00:13] and tar don't like spaces in file names without '' or "" surrounding it (iirc) [00:13] if you're trying to tar -xjf Britney Spears Gets A College Education.tar.bz2 it's going to have issues [00:14] if you have that file to begin with you have deeper issues than tar syntax [00:14] yeah, like windows viruses trying to get onto your linux computer [00:14] did they become self-aware while I wasn't paying attention? [00:14] MLanden, got it all set up, thanks. [00:15] hiptobecubic: what? [00:15] MLanden, you asked about setting up keybinds [00:16] lol i had to make up a random name [00:16] that wasn't random! it let us have a peek into your soul! [00:16] :) [00:16] hiptobecubic: np.....lxde uses openbox syntax...so I was doing the same thing with mocp [00:18] slackie (n=x@87.196.233.0) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [00:20] redtricycle (n=redtricy@69.104.56.142) joined ##slackware. [00:22] veritos (i=4c68f9a7@gateway/web/freenode/x-qletbbikvusmksss) joined ##slackware. [00:23] People who know C---is it safe to mix calls to fgets and scanf? [00:23] Or should I use fgets and sscanf on the returned value? [00:25] you mean fscanf? [00:26] fgets on stdin, and scanf [00:27] op you fopen /dev/stdin to fgets?? [00:29] fgets(arg, arg, stdin) [00:29] That comes pre-opened. [00:30] they're streams, why would mixing reads matter? [00:31] Because standard libraries are occasionally stupid like that, so I just wanted to be sure. [00:31] _Pinnen (i=pinnen@h-36-27.A204.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. 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[02:56] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [02:57] hello world :D [02:58] hello g4tt0 [02:58] hi fb^^ [03:00] It's so quiet here tonight. :P [03:02] everyone gone to that bar down the street around the corner [03:02] lol [03:03] XSign (n=XSign@124.130.160.190) joined ##slackware. [03:03] how can i uninstall a package which is installed through installpkg ? [03:04] removepkg [03:04] fire|bird, thanks :) [03:04] you're welcome [03:04] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.10.13) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:06] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:07] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-1.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [03:08] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:08] appzer0 (n=appzer0@88.188.134.86) joined ##slackware. [03:09] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [03:18] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. 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[03:40] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:43] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [03:47] I need to install Slack13 onto a laptop with Win7 and Ubuntu 9.10. The Ubuntu has /home and swap encryption activated from the install and I don't know how to make Slack to use that /home and swap. [03:48] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:49] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.37.253) joined ##slackware. [03:49] Azeotrope, edit your fstab file [03:49] /etc/fstab [03:50] After I install Slack? [03:50] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left irc: "Quit" [03:51] Azeotrope, yeap~ [03:51] Ok. Thanks. [03:51] Hermann (n=Hermannn@81.170.156.174) joined ##slackware. [03:51] And how do I open up the encrypted partition? [03:51] password protected [03:53] Azeotrope, what do u mean by "password protected"? [03:53] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-1.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:54] The messiest thing will be to have both KDE and gnome. [03:55] Azeotrope, sorry :( i have no idea about what did u say.... i'm not english speaking ...... [03:55] Ok, no problem [03:56] elpierro (n=elpierro@93-63-237-106.ip30.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [03:56] reading the README_CRYPT.TXT on any Slackware mirror might help [04:00] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: "/etc/rc.d/rc.suspend_brain start" [04:02] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [04:02] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:03] elpierro (n=elpierro@93-63-237-106.ip30.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [04:04] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [04:07] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [04:07] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. 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[05:07] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:12] does any one have problem with 2.6.31.6 kernel and Realtek sound card,for me when /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa does a /usr/sbin/alsactl restore, it gives following error "unknown hardware: "VIA8233" "Realtek ALC650F" Hardware is initialized using a guess method " [05:12] sound hw is working as usual [05:14] init[1]: hmmmmmm [05:14] Camarade_Tux: are you on 2.6.31.6? [05:14] init[1]: 2.6.32-rc8 seems to think my card is a different than it used to be [05:14] answer ^^ [05:14] Camarade_Tux: so we are in the same boat \o/ [05:15] init[1]: I'm not sure, I think it didn't happen with .32-rc1/2, but I'm not sure =/ [05:15] sound is still working also [05:15] the output of alsamixer has changed too [05:16] I have this almost all the time with new kernels [05:16] simply do an alsactl store again [05:17] Camarade_Tux: its working fine with 2.6.29.6, pprkut yea i was about to do that [05:17] set_control:1266: failed to obtain info for control #56 (No such file or directory) <- i think its missing some controls from previous store [05:18] pprkut: never happend to me though [05:18] yea, alsactl store; alsactl restore did the trick [05:18] \o/,issue closed :P , [05:19] ty pprkut ,Camarade_Tux :) [05:19] np [05:20] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) joined ##slackware. [05:21] Nick change: pragma_ -> umopepisdn` [05:22] Camarade_Tux: seems I'm attracting errors somehow :P [05:24] pprkut: heard about my wifi card? sometimes the computer won't see it, sometimes it will suddenly be "in deep sleep" :) [05:24] pprkut: it's completely unreliable now :P [05:25] hahaha [05:26] awesome. I have yet to see that error. [05:26] greetings awesome people ;) [05:26] greetings awesome The-Croupier ;) [05:26] daedra__ (n=daedra@75-128-41-61.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [05:26] karuna (n=quassel@202.154.40.187) joined ##slackware. [05:27] hows things? [05:27] pprkut: I ssh to another computer for irc so you won't see me disconenct but it just happened to me 6 or 7 times today :) [05:27] btw, it's 11:27 am :) [05:27] and I've been out for more than 3 hours (woke up at 7am) [05:28] imagine how often it happens :D [05:28] hehe [05:28] The-Croupier: morning :) [05:29] im loving my research...;) i wish i could do it with my laptop ;) [05:29] hows things with you guys ? ;) [05:31] daedra__ (n=daedra@75-128-41-61.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:35] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [05:37] about to leave for university :) [05:37] rapid (n=rapid@210.49.80.29) joined ##slackware. [05:40] karuna (n=quassel@202.154.40.187) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:44] Pumpkins1979 (n=asdf@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) joined ##slackware. [05:46] Utility (n=bicenten@211.180.33.9) joined ##slackware. [05:46] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. 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[06:06] 16:42 < Dr_Willis> terminatorul: uname -a (i think) [06:06] :P [06:06] snippet from #ubuntu [06:07] liblzo2.so.2,which package contain this lib? [06:07] wow [06:08] /etc/slackware-version [06:08] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21 2009-08-26 12:18 /etc/slackware-version [06:08] Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [06:08] Pumpkins1979 (n=asdf@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:08] XSign: lzo [06:08] hmm patrick seems to like the zeros [06:08] Utility: is that an answer to the snippet ? [06:08] Utility: ah nvm [06:08] i'm not answering it, it's related though [06:08] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: Client Quit [06:08] shyko, em....which path does this package in ? [06:09] can not find it in slackware/l/ [06:09] hello_world (n=icarus@130.226.140.2) joined ##slackware. [06:09] but is in l series [06:10] oops.... [06:10] find it ... [06:10] thanks :) [06:10] hehhehehe [06:10] I understand checkinstall isn't really the best way of generating a package from source. What should I use to generate a package ? [06:13] shyko, em....have u ever used "CUSTOM" to install slackware ? [06:13] hello_world, makepkg [06:13] hello_world, www.slackbuilds.org check out a slackbuild script and see how it uses makepkg [06:13] if there's a slackbuild script for what you need, btw, it's probably the best way of generating a package for what you need [06:14] Utility, yes that's the standard tool. But I just want to shove off a quick package.. I know checkinstall used to fill this role. But I seem to recall having read that some other tool has swooped in and replaced this role [06:14] XSign: nope [06:14] and be aware that if the slackbuild script doesn't work and you are on slackware64 you ought to declare ARCH=x86_64 in front of ./foo.SlackBuild [06:14] hello_world, not aware of what tool replaced checkinstall [06:15] anybody tell me why can not install slackware with CUSTOM ? [06:15] hello_world: well there is one called gnu source install [06:15] hello_world: but i don't think that is whant you meant [06:15] hello_world: you can look at src2pkg [06:15] src2pkg! Yes, I think that's what I read about, thanks :) [06:18] gyroscope (n=master@81.214.149.29) joined ##slackware. [06:22] quasar (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [06:22] hexorcist (n=michael@wsip-70-183-55-147.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:22] alienBOB, better later then never: thanks for the Dropbox tip :) [06:25] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.31.190) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:26] Staden (n=lkjl@68.197.241.235) joined ##slackware. [06:26] hi [06:26] hi [06:27] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [06:27] alienBOB: you wouldn't happen to know if I can just make it follow a set series of build commands rather than doing its own thing ? [06:27] i just got an intel ss4200-e NAS (it has 512mB of ram and a 1.6ghz celeron cpu), I plan on upgrading the cpu and ram (intel e2220 2.4ghz c2d cpu, and 2gB of ram) and running slackware 13 on it [06:29] trouble is, this device has no video output and only a pci express x1 card, so i'd need to install slackare on a hdd and set it up before i can boot up the computer [06:29] I have this Philips webcam that is all blank. In lsusb it shows Philips and that's all [06:29] anyone done soemthing of the sort? [06:31] Staden: very simple and easy to do. [06:31] Staden, sure, you put the hard drive into another machine, install slackware on it, but do NOT boot slackware on it. when you are finished installing, shut the machine off (run "poweroff" or "shutdown now" instead of "reboot") [06:32] Staden: you could also use dropbear ssh to install, or use a serial cable. [06:32] there is no serial cable by default, and i dont want to mod one in [06:32] Utility: doesnt really matter if he reboots or not. [06:32] well i prefer not to boot it for the first time but that's just me [06:33] Staden: you won't have any problems with your plan. should be very easy and straight forward to do. [06:33] Utility, thats what i was thinking, i just home i'm able to have it boot with a user account setup along with sshd [06:33] hope* [06:33] too bad pci x1 video cards are so expensive [06:33] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.37.253) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:34] i'd consider getting one for the installation if they weren't $99+ [06:34] ah then yeah you'd want to set up those users on the computer you installed it on [06:35] the default software on that NAS does a lot of cool stuff, but I want to be able to run a bit torrent server, and possibly game servers [06:35] Staden: just do your plan. it will work. if you have problems just swap the harddrive back into the other machine again and fix it [06:35] spook, i'm sure it'll work, at this point i'm just pondering how many hours it'll take before i get it done right [06:36] Staden: sounds like it's more work than it's worth it [06:36] i'm still deciding that [06:36] Staden: what functionality are you missing in your current NAS software? [06:36] Staden: sounds like about an hour at most, and pretty much 95% of that time is installing slackware. [06:37] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.67.21) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:37] spook, i will screw up somewhere and end up installing it 2-3 times [06:37] Staden: just do a full install, configure sshd to start at boot. set a root password, and configure networking. all those are steps in the install process. [06:37] Staden, you will not screw up somewhere if you think before you act. granted i think we've probably all been there before, it's called experience and time spent learning [06:37] ananke, bit torrent is notably missing, and i'd also be able to run various game servers (tf2) [06:38] frullet (n=hooch@124.168.243.149) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:38] merciful (n=eabe@24.132.148.25) joined ##slackware. [06:38] thanks for the optimism [06:39] Staden: ohh, so no longer a dedicated nas [06:39] ananke, oh i'll run that too with samba [06:41] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [06:42] Staden, are your other clients windows based? [06:42] Utility, windows and mac [06:43] anyone used src2pkg ? The manpage mentions some arguments but I can't get it to execute a build script. The man page says to use -X but I can't supply the argument [06:44] Staden: i was simply going to suggest sticking to your current nas software, if nas was all you needed [06:45] ananke, i may do that in the end, but it'll be a fun project [06:45] hello_world: its 3rd party software, you're better off talking to the people who maintain it. [06:45] Staden if your uniq data is safe, then multiple sequential installs is called "PRACTICE" !!! [06:45] that's not a bad thing [06:45] heh [06:46] Staden: tripFantastic rarely gives useful or safe information. just warning you. [06:46] spook: Well it does lead me to another question, how would you package your home-compiled software for installation ? Do you just throw everything in /opt or do you make a package. And if so, what methods do you use ? [06:47] hello_world: i write a slackbuild script for it [06:47] Staden when i first started with Slackw, i didnt have anyone to help; i would spend a couple of days installing it to learn it well. [06:47] Staden spook hates me; evaluate his words accordingly. [06:47] and mine too; as well as everyone else's [06:47] hello_world: both. --prefix=/opt/softwarename, and use checkinstall. that's the easiest way to keep track of it [06:47] ok [06:48] ananke: so checkinstall still works I take it [06:48] Staden: i dont hate him, he just doesnt have a good track record. [06:49] Staden, hmm that might work best. too bad you can't get away from samba lol [06:49] hello_world: i haven't used it on newer slackware releases, so i can't speak for those [06:49] spook beware of spirits who provide uncorroborated evidence and no tesitmony [06:49] testimony [06:49] granted i side with ananke: unless you have good detailed instructions, don't bother [06:49] ananke has good rep. [06:50] tripFantastic: its okay, give it a little longer, you'll piss off some irc operators again and get klined for a third time. [06:50] spook no one can keep a good man down. [06:50] hello_world, personally i do --prefix=/usr unless i have a reason. usually for most stuff that's pretty much linux-friendly or came from linux (audacious, lame, etc) i use --prefix=/usr [06:50] i did nothing to earn a ban [06:50] openoffice is one i would recommend /opt/whatever for (but rworkman already has packages for this) [06:50] Staden: the deciding factor for me would be: will i have a way to revert. is the software installed directly on that drive/drives? is it installed on some other media? [06:51] (another good point: if you can't restore it back to the way it was, i.e. if you can't back it up, don't modify it) [06:51] Utility: but what about all these rogue files ? Do you actively keep all source packages so you can issue "make install" later ? (If you don't, I'd say that's a bit ugly) [06:51] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.76.31.221) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [06:51] Action: Utility likes ananke [06:52] Utility: this isnt facebook. [06:52] run ananke, run! [06:52] lol@spook [06:54] Action: Utility stabs spook with a knife called facebook [06:55] hello_world, i've never had issues with rogue files. i package my stuff so that i can remove it afterwards. [06:55] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [06:55] Action: spook stabs Utility with a frozen eel [06:55] i don't usually install weird or ghetto software though. mostly just lame, audacious, bibletime, and freeciv [06:55] Staden: btw, I bought a radeon 9200 pci 1x two or three years ago, was like 15 euros [06:55] Action: Utility tosses spook into the intake of an F-16 and starts the engine [06:55] Utility: but if you install it without anything to a directory you don't package it ? You what, install to some other directory and make the package manually using makepkg ? [06:56] i package it [06:56] i make install DESTDIR=/tmp/whatever then installpkg /tmp/whatever.txz [06:56] i use slackbuild scripts [06:56] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.78.239) joined ##slackware. [06:57] Utility: won't you need to issue makepkg before installpkg ? [06:58] yes but i was only being general [06:58] i wasn't giving literal instructions [06:58] read a slackbuild script. i recommend using those if they are available. [07:00] Utility: you're dead by frozen eel. the police will have a funny puzzle to solve. [07:01] spook, the police won't be able to figure out who you are >8-P [07:01] spook: be careful, he might start liking you ;) [07:01] Action: The-Croupier hides [07:01] Action: Utility sends a homing missile after The-Croupier as he ran to hide and pwnz him right before he jumped behind his hiding place [07:01] [07:01] Utility: see, they find your body, in a puddle of water and blood, with a dead unfrozen eel in your chest. [07:02] but they'll be able to figure out who i am/was [07:03] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:03] in your case they will find a huge mess of liquified human being everywhere, most if not all burned beyond recognition [07:03] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) joined ##slackware. [07:03] if you're gonna go, go out in style i always say. [07:03] Action: The-Croupier always wanted to see a trolling example live ;) thanks Utility,spook ;) [07:04] The-Croupier: thats not trolling. [07:05] Action: Utility stabs The-Croupier [07:05] bugersf (n=jonsol@c-6a12e055.1339-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Lost terminal" [07:05] Why all the death threats ? Be creative.. Install windows on eachothers boxes.. That's far more nefarious after all [07:06] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:06] rrh_ (n=foo@217.75.82.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:07] its not death threats. also doing unkind things to other people's computers isnt nice. [07:08] stuffing dead eels in them is ? ;) [07:08] Action: spook sighs [07:10] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: "senate/irc:0.1b -- by cyberpunk.." [07:10] pprkut: guess what just happened ^^ [07:11] haha [07:13] and that led me to turn my computer off. I forgot I had windows on another machine using my /dev/sda through nbd [07:13] now I know how windows reacts when its system disk disappears ^^ [07:14] hello_world, windows ... 95 [07:15] ? ( comment: ME is considerably more evil than 95 ) [07:15] touche [07:15] i dunno, windows 1.0 would be more evil. [07:15] Action: Utility almost misses win95 [07:16] spook: you sure ? Windows 3.11 was almost fun ;) [07:16] spook: here, take this vista :) [07:16] 3.11 worked, and had networking... and didnt randomly loose files [07:16] 1.0.... [07:16] lose [07:16] ^^ [07:17] what was your first OS everyone? [07:17] Action: Utility 's first OS was DOS 5 [07:17] ditto [07:17] windows 3.0 [07:17] what did the old BBC computers use ? [07:18] phrag: greetings :) [07:18] windows was a dos app more than an operating system me feels :P [07:18] phrag: duct tape, string and paper clips [07:18] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro [07:18] that was what i did my IT exam on =P [07:18] phrag, 'sup? long time no see 8-) [07:18] hey guys =) [07:18] phrag: hey dude [07:18] gynter (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: "Leaving" [07:19] Action: phrag munches on a *massive* sandwhich [07:20] Confirm that I'm sane: linuxpackages.net is down ? [07:20] phrag: glad to see you back mate. ;) [07:20] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@20-3-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) joined ##slackware. [07:21] hello_world, do not EVER use their packages [07:21] hello_world: you are insane. [07:21] that's what happens when you use their packages, your website goes down 8-D [07:21] Action: The-Croupier confirms [07:21] That bad, huh ? [07:21] hello_world: insantiy confirmed, no idea if the site is up tho =P [07:22] Well.. I've got this rar file.. And the unrar source by the people who make Winrar is just a directory with a bunch of cpp files.. No scripts, no make files no nothing [07:22] hello_world: yeah, lp.net, not the best place to get packages. [07:22] hello_world: slackbuilds.org [07:22] hello_world: search for unrar [07:22] hello_world: use the binary and package it [07:22] ok. That was an overwhelming response ;) I'll have to look at that then [07:23] unpack the unrar source file and type: make -f makefile.unix unrar lib [07:24] hear about the dude who's in prison for refusing to hand over his enc key? [07:24] you'll get the unrar binary and librar.somthing.somthing; put the former where you like your bins and the latter where your boxen has its libs [07:24] first time the law been used here (UK) [07:26] that's why you want plausible deniability [07:26] wow, thanks guys! I've never used a slackbuild before (long time since I last used slack) and wow, is that just slackware in a nutshell.. No utility hell like building debian packages, just run the shell script. Wow :) ( I <3 slackbuild ) [07:26] Action: Utility hell ? [07:26] hello_world: yay. [07:28] phrag: url? [07:28] hello_world: ^^ [07:29] LastStage (n=laststag@83.7.112.243) joined ##slackware. [07:30] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:31] http://www.itwire.com/content/view/26976/1231/ [07:32] Art'noon [07:34] The-Croupier, ^ [07:34] Zordrak: sup [07:34] caio (n=caio@190.244.57.71) joined ##slackware. [07:34] half day for me :) just got here [07:35] Nick change: caio -> Guest14995 [07:35] yay [07:36] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [07:36] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) joined ##slackware. [07:38] fourth amendment to US constitution: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. [07:38] i'm glad that, at least for now, it's not a crime in the USA [07:39] what does domestic extremism stand for exactly....not getting it :( tried english-greek dictionary ...but not making sense... [07:39] when they have a warrant, the person is obstructing justice by withholding their key. [07:39] although that conflicts with the... 5th? [07:40] they all conflict [07:40] spook: so in other words..there is no security in computers if one has a warrant ;) [07:40] Action: The-Croupier just realised he spent so much time for nothing ;) [07:40] theyre as open to interpretation as english law. It doesn't matter how *you* interperet it.. it only matters haw a judge intrprets it [07:40] "... nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law ..." [07:41] anyone had trouble with wd raptor drives lately? [07:41] Utility: well it is due process of law. [07:41] you can't witness against yourself, i.e. incriminate yourself [07:41] not lately [07:41] you can, you just can [07:41] can't be compelled to [07:41] the funny thing is it's hard to intimidate someone who believes they have nothing to lose [07:41] what about when you are charged with "terrorism" though? doesnt that change everything? [07:42] bought two drives recently and since then my machines have been randomly locking up. now a buddy bought a drive which coincidentally have a similar serial and his machine has been unstable since as well [07:42] enemy combatants are treated differently [07:42] well, the way its worded implies to me that they can be compelled in a criminal case to witness against themselves, as long as the due process of law is followed. [07:42] gerrh: run WD DLG. if it fails, RMA it. [07:42] but the precedent rulings are clear on the matter. [07:44] gerrh, there should be a hard drive utility they came with [07:44] they'd have to prove you're an enemy combatant [07:44] Utility: uh.. that wolud be WD DLG [07:44] Zordrak, right you are, my apologies, did not see your recommendation [07:45] i'm thinking smartctl would also show useful info fwiw [07:45] in australia, you can be charged for withholding your key, but only with a warrant from the attourney general, the head judge for the state. [07:45] Utility: it would be really easy to prove anything these days...the only thing you need is very good computer skills ;) [07:46] sahk0: do you know of any charges that apply in greece? cos i havent heard of any ;) [07:46] but this is key: the amendment is phrased so that it is not the state but the individual who determines whether the search and/or siezure is unreasonable [07:46] er seizure [07:46] The-Croupier: we are probably too third world yet. we just started dealing with child porn. but pretty soon there probably will be [07:46] isn't the jailbird schizophrenic too? [07:47] i should read the australian constitution one day. [07:49] sahk0: i see... ;) so no problems with enc.keys etc.... ;) and other security stuff one would have in his computers ;) [07:49] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.15.40) joined ##slackware. [07:49] i am not the optimist person, and especially when it comes to the future of mankind [07:50] woo tb3rc21 [07:50] er tb3rc1 [07:50] The-Croupier: havent heard of any [07:50] hi, I just installed GSB (GNOME SlackBuild) and I am having problem with Pulse Audio. No Sound. [07:50] sound was working fine in KDE [07:50] thunderturd 8-) [07:50] alreadygone: theres a dedicated channel [07:51] #gsb or something like that [07:51] ok thanks [07:51] morning :) [07:53] sahk0: ;) nice ;) [07:54] kr_eten (n=quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [07:54] i dont know many people dealing with cryptography here tbh [07:54] im sure there are some especially unix people [07:57] README_CRYPT.TXT FTW [07:57] alreadygone: start by narrowing it down :) Can you list/find soundcards (aplay -l), can you play something in the terminal ? Do you get any errors (aplay example.mp3) [07:58] ok hello_world let me try [07:58] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) joined ##slackware. [07:59] Playing raw data 'Twilight Soundtrack - Eyes On Fire.mp3' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono [07:59] I can hear nothing [07:59] ok, but that seems to indicate that the pulse backend itself is working [07:59] did a CTRL+C to get out [07:59] Otherwise you'd get some errors, be that insufficient permissions to play anything OR an error about no detected cards. [08:00] i can hear that shhhhhhhh sound in headphones [08:00] like a sound when you have your volume set to full [08:00] alreadygone: i had to fiddle about with my sound card order with pulse to get full duplex [08:01] you have more than 1 sound card i assume? [08:01] alreadygone: That's often garbage due to some mic channels that aren't muted. Tried adjusting channels ? In gnome theres a sound traybar icon which lets you adjust various mixer levels [08:01] usb headphones usually detect as their own sound card [08:01] in sound preferences: device for Output is set to "Null Outout". [08:01] but then i used dmixer [08:01] that might be a problem =P [08:01] and there are no other devices to choose from [08:02] ran alsaconf again ? [08:02] and is this gnome your in ? [08:02] ok wait [08:03] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.33.251.231) joined ##slackware. [08:03] hi there [08:03] hi here [08:04] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:05] pprkut: again \o/ [08:05] card was detected successfully.... Have a lot of fun! message was shown at end but no sound still [08:07] CornFed (n=Dont@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:07] PulseAudio Manager shows Devices as: Null Output. alsamixer in terminal shows: Card: PulseAudio Chip: PulseAudio [08:07] and just one item: Master [08:07] Nick change: CornFed -> Guest20466 [08:07] pulseaudio :O [08:08] it's gnome 2.26 [08:08] Action: Utility never had a good experience with pulse audio [08:09] i should google disabling pulseaudio I guess [08:10] removepkg pulseaudio. There, disabled :P [08:10] haha [08:10] hi Camarade_Tux [08:13] LastStage (n=laststag@83.7.112.243) left irc: Client Quit [08:17] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.254.50) joined ##slackware. [08:19] drgr33n (n=drgr33n@unaffiliated/drgr33n) joined ##slackware. [08:19] slackytude (n=icke@p4FD8A50D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:21] frullet (n=hooch@124.168.243.149) joined ##slackware. [08:21] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:22] freebse (n=freebse@g227146182.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. 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[08:24] right now a worker/engineer automation would be more appreciated, at least to me (freeciv) [08:25] like we could search the slackbuild for a package and bot would return the details as PM etc [08:26] i believe the bot belongs to phrag [08:27] Utility: i'm not aware of any such bot here [08:27] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.15.40) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:27] Utility: afaik there are not bots here other than our beloved slackboy [08:27] s/not/no/ [08:28] nvision (n=nvision@141.89.226.149) left irc: "Leaving" [08:32] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [08:32] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [08:33] lol slackboy :D [08:33] kr_eten (n=quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) left irc: Client Quit [08:34] drgr33n: what is there to lol about slackboy ? [08:34] drgr33n: if he ever gets angry !:P [08:34] :D the name !! it tickled me lol [08:35] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:35] drgr33n: would you like to be the slackgirl for him ? [08:35] lol I am a bot actually ;) [08:36] lol I'l be his bitch !! [08:36] freebse: drgr33n are you both that same ? [08:36] s/that/the/ [08:36] no we are in a open relationship [08:37] a dumb clone of me ;) [08:37] nvm [08:37] Action: drgr33n love slackboy longtime [08:38] you crazy GI [08:38] i wish i was a bot, being human is such a chore, alwaus having to eat or go poo [08:39] japp besides we are all bots, working, doing shit someone else told us to do, actually we are bots... malfunctional [08:39] because we have to eat and pee and shit... pretty unorganised bots [08:39] stfu and get back in your gilly suit [08:39] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.254.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:41] does anyone know when rworkman is online ?? [08:41] i wish there was a key-word to shut the bots down ;) [08:41] Action: Utility resists throwing out a lame "your mom" joke [08:41] lol [08:41] lol [08:42] its all fun and games here !! [08:43] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.85.91) joined ##slackware. [08:43] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [08:43] hahaha just seen slackware gallery !! how ever funny are the mug shots !!! [08:44] Utility: see all bots shut down ;) that "your mom" actually worked [08:44] damn it didnt [08:44] talking about moms: in another channel (2009-11-26 15:43:50) IcePic: I would wish my work was such that no politics, no windows and no suits were needed. I havent seen such a workplace yet, at least not when it employs more than "my mom" [08:45] bye ^^ [08:45] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@79.51.70.114) left irc: [08:45] ciao g4tto [08:45] oh... so fasto -.-" [08:45] ahahaha [08:45] *fast [08:45] phrag you look like a right stoner lol [08:45] metrofox: so how was it quicker to type fasto, then fast :( hmmm [08:46] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-wvhbjryefptnsovo) joined ##slackware. [08:47] guys why ownership of directory with mounted usb can't be changed to someUser [08:47] chown: changing ownership of `esb/': Operation not permitted [08:47] chown: changing ownership of `esb/Recycled/info2': Operation not permitted [08:47] by root of course [08:49] fat32 filesystem on a usb thumbdrive? [08:49] OutOfBound (n=mayconma@201.39.157.226) joined ##slackware. [08:50] ChArLoK_16 (n=chatzill@82.137.203.132) joined ##slackware. [08:50] hi .. does somebody can help me with some troubles in english? [08:50] i'm brazillian [08:50] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.18.154) joined ##slackware. [08:51] what english troubles did you have in mind? [08:51] post your question, if someone knows the answer they will reply [08:51] Pig_Pen: omg, thanks :) [08:52] [Utility]: it's just a abstract .. -> http://english_shit.pastebin.com/m319f4a5b [08:52] can you review for me ? [08:52] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:52] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:53] i have 5 google wave invites left, /msg me your email address if you want one [08:54] glen2 (i=1000@87-194-47-22.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:55] In two days I've had two Slackware servers unable to run anything in /bin/*, any ideas what could cause that? [08:55] 'unable' ? [08:56] noexec flag in some mount point? [08:57] The drives are mounted and I can move files around. Just not run them, the first server to die had been running Slackware for a year or so. [08:57] glen2: you havent answered my question. [08:57] I don't know, I can't run mount. [08:57] glen2: my question was for you to define unable [08:57] how the heck do you install slack 2.2? [08:58] Is this a know worm? [08:58] Azeotrope: 2.2? you mean 12.2? [08:58] Azeotrope, you go back in time [08:58] i dont think there was a 2.2 [08:58] Was there a 2.2? [08:58] 2.2 [08:58] In a vbox [08:58] yes [08:59] version 2.0 was install from floppies, or one floppy and a cdrom. [09:00] I first started using Slackware at 3.1 so I never used version 2. [09:00] having a hard time finding a mirror that even has 2.0 [09:00] slackware 2.2 and win 3.11. I'm gonna make a vpn with 'em [09:00] Spook: I can send you version 3.1 [09:00] glen2: you really havent given us any USEFUL information yet. STILL. [09:00] Utility (n=bicenten@211.180.33.9) left irc: "Leaving" [09:01] glen2: i have no problems find that... [09:01] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [09:01] Azeotrope: if you don't mind me asking, why in the world do you want that ? :P [09:02] freebse (n=freebse@g227146182.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [09:02] Spook: It's as if +x wasn't there. But the drives haven't been remounted. [09:02] was it all text? back on 3.1? [09:02] glen2: are you going to provide... ls -l maybe some error messages...? [09:02] No, it has ASCII art borders. [09:02] hello_world: to see if it works. [09:03] spook: No, I closed the terminal and I can't open it again. LS worked, but I don't think that's a file. [09:04] A also can't login on console as bash won't start. [09:04] got a live disk or slackware install disk or usb boot disk you can use? [09:04] spook: slackware.no? [09:04] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.18.154) left irc: "Leaving" [09:04] Spook: plenty, but I'm not keen on stopping this server. [09:05] Azeotrope: uh good luck with the huge lack of any hardware support? [09:05] Version 8 still has support. [09:05] glen2: if you think theres been a security breach of virus you should RO the disks and shut down and begin forensics :P [09:06] glen2: yes. but the kernel that came with 2.2 isnt going to work with anything but like ancient hardware [09:06] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.18.154) joined ##slackware. [09:06] Spook: He said he would use virtual machines. [09:06] did you encountered viruses on linux? [09:07] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:07] \o/ fixed PulseAudio issue [09:07] Azeotrope: they very much exist, but theres not much point. [09:07] Reaver1 (n=Data_Ent@212.88.117.162) left irc: "Leaving." [09:07] alreadygone: grats ! What was it, specifically ? [09:07] added my user to groups 'audio' and 'pulse' [09:07] :) [09:08] alreadygone: grats, you got some experimental software that doesnt come with slackware for a good reason, working. [09:08] Azeotrope: There are one or two viruses for Linux, but I've not seen any. Most of the security problems come from worms that want to turn your linux server into a spam bot. [09:08] Because it is secure? [09:08] you're serious ? Wow.. I'll have to remember that ! Funny it didn't give you any permissions errors when you played sounds from the command-line [09:08] spook, it came with GNOMESlackBuild [09:08] I have this fetish of mine... What OS do NSA, CIA and other bigbrothers use? [09:08] hello_world, read it in some forum... [09:09] :) [09:09] alreadygone: yes. that is not part of slackware and has its own support channels, as has been pointed out. [09:09] slackytuuuuuuudddddeeeee! ='( [09:09] What's the keyboard sequence to halt a system when you can't run halt? [09:09] AtuM (n=damjan@84-255-254-147.static.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [09:09] hello! [09:09] spook, i was just sharing the solution [09:09] chill [09:09] spook, sure, I just asked him *how* he fixed it, that's all [09:10] Guest20466 (n=Dont@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:10] Azeotrope: well, people who run linux in general are more security conscious, and there are less exposed linux machines. [09:10] Azeotrope: sure it might spread, but its going to die off pretty quick. [09:11] alice_ (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:11] alreadygone: not attacking you, just taking jabs at people who use pulse audio [09:12] np spook [09:12] :) I would not have gone for gnome if KDE 4 was not such a disappointment [09:12] spook: pulse is hell, I'm sure most will agree :P [09:13] FOTW (fail of the week) [09:14] alreadygone: there are other DEs besides gnome and kde. [09:14] LXDE does not have a Trash Can. [09:14] what was the guy thinking who made it? [09:14] i have not liked gnome since 1.4 and so far kde-4 is a disapointment, i think i am going to stick to the lightweight window managers for now on [09:14] I don't know how to add simple applets in XFCE taskbar... [09:15] rightclick on it alreadygone [09:15] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:15] {KDE4,xfce,fluxbox} > *box > windows > Sun > gnome [09:15] :) Pig_Pen [09:15] sounds like you are just afraid of learning new things [09:15] Pig_Pen, can you add Color Picker in XFCE's task bar? [09:16] alreadygone: I would try out xfce or fluxbox. they work for me. [09:16] not sure, i use xfce4 only rarely [09:16] right now i have kde-3.5.10 built for 13, but i mostly use fvwm or openbox [09:17] I use xfce on my main slackware station and fluxbox on my older boxes. [09:17] spook, if you right click on an archive in XFCE, do you know there is no link of "Extract" [09:17] on Slackware 13 [09:17] uh sure. that makes sense. [09:17] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:17] Action: spook pulls a face [09:18] drgr33n (n=drgr33n@unaffiliated/drgr33n) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091107195454]" [09:18] spook, don't act like a moron [09:18] does a user has to figure out a solution for a basic thing like that? [09:18] does a user has to... [09:18] yes [09:18] Zordrak: fluxbox > *box? hmmmm [09:19] SHOULD a user HAVE to... [09:19] yes [09:19] i am a user and i often HAVE to [09:19] aww.. for the first time in several months, kde has broken on me.. although its hal's fault [09:19] no, i was correcting your grammar. [09:20] alreadygone: to add item to task bar you right click, click add new item, then select what you want or type pathway to application. [09:20] hitest, thanks. i'll kill this X session now and go try right away... [09:20] xNOP (n=xnop@83.7.112.243) joined ##slackware. [09:20] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.18.154) left irc: "Leaving" [09:21] i wonder how much of xorg has to be rebuilt so it wont depend on dbus & hal? [09:21] drgr33n (n=drgr33n@unaffiliated/drgr33n) joined ##slackware. [09:21] Pig_Pen: what version of xorg? [09:22] the one in 13 [09:22] Pig_Pen: just xorg-server [09:22] all the input stuff. [09:22] xserver & mouse & keyboard then [09:22] no, all input stuff. [09:22] probably the display stuff too. [09:23] anyone here got blueman working in slackware ? [09:23] just xorg-server [09:23] maybe. [09:23] why would you want to [09:23] just xorg-server? i hope so, that would be a snap [09:24] dbus & hal are junk [09:24] its the only thing that depends on them [09:24] lol [09:24] Pig_Pen: i cant say i agree [09:24] me 2 [09:24] i really like dbus and hal. [09:25] whats wrong with dbus and hal ?? [09:25] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.18.154) joined ##slackware. [09:25] part of why kde4 is so much better than 3 is because all the components are now speaking the same language.. [09:25] dbus and hal are a massive part of that [09:26] Zordrak: well, kde 4 is actually one piece, as opposed to 3 which was just a bunch of different software bundled together [09:26] if you dont use a DE theyre useless. well at least hal [09:26] lots of stuff use dbus too. what about bluez !! [09:27] sant0 (n=chatzill@189-19-71-202.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:27] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:27] alreadygone: to add right click extract in xfce/thunar you may need thunar-archive-plugin [09:28] mshade (n=mshade@ip98-169-164-171.dc.dc.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:28] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [09:28] thanks TClayton :) [09:28] ...or open thunar and Edit --> Configure custom actions... [09:28] Action: alreadygone is on http://thunar.xfce.org/plugins.html [09:29] thunar ftw ;) [09:29] alreadygone: your welcome you can find the package at http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=thunar&sv=13.0 [09:29] glen2 (i=1000@87-194-47-22.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:30] that would be better :) [09:30] Why am I choosing not to go to a DragonForce gig just because i cant be arsed to drive there :/ [09:30] alreadygone: yes, look there first [09:30] Zordrak: because computers are better [09:31] it is there [09:31] and 6 more [09:31] spook: nothing is better! I just CBA cause its a lot of faffing around and i already went to a gig for this album a while back [09:32] the missus is still going cos theyre playing at her uni which is an hour or so drive from home [09:32] elliot98 (n=elliot@79.183.116.40) joined ##slackware. [09:32] Superbaloo (i=FN@energeek.net) joined ##slackware. [09:33] elliot98 (n=elliot@79.183.116.40) left irc: Client Quit [09:33] i've never liked live music [09:34] shame.. it was awesome last time... they were supported by Turisas and they were freaking awesome too [09:35] \o/ got Extract Here and Extract To... links in the right click menu [09:36] spook: buy me a new graphics card for christmas [09:36] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-183-116-40.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [09:36] Zordrak: uh, no? [09:36] spook: cmon.. dont be tight :) [09:36] urban_ (n=urban@94.255.165.174) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:37] fredg (n=fredg@unaffiliated/fredg) left ##slackware. [09:37] Zordrak: unless you use windows too there's not really a lot of good reasons for upgrading the graphics card, is there ? [09:37] spook: feel sorry for me cos im stuck with an X1800XT [09:37] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-183-116-40.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:37] Zordrak: you want a nvidia 9600GT ? [09:37] hello_world: new vdpau features! [09:37] spook: that doesnt even support lilo properly(!!) [09:37] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.75.167) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:38] spook: hell yes.. itd be better than what i have nomw [09:38] spook: i do have something like that...:( [09:38] pprkut: what's the point, really ? I've never had video troubles using regular nvidia cards ? [09:38] i had/have sli 9600gt, but took one card out ages ago after finding it more trouble than it was worth. [09:38] on the x1800xt lilo comes up in some kind of inverted green [09:39] \o/ drop it in a jiffy bag and post it :) [09:39] or something sturdier... [09:39] might get here before 2010 :) [09:40] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [09:40] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.75.167) joined ##slackware. [09:41] sure. [09:42] ChArLoK_16 (n=chatzill@82.137.203.132) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]" [09:42] serious..? [09:43] not doing me any good, and you're a pretty nice guy, why not? [09:43] :) [09:43] Action: Zordrak is a pretty nice guy :) [09:44] heh [09:44] what aboot postage? [09:44] it'll only be about $10 dont worry about it [09:46] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [09:48] XSign (n=XSign@124.130.160.190) left ##slackware ("‚»"). [09:49] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [09:49] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) joined ##slackware. [09:50] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [09:52] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-38-141-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:54] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.75.167) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:54] kr_eten (n=quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [09:55] AtuM (n=damjan@84-255-254-147.static.t-2.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:00] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [10:01] mornin [10:02] happy thanksgiving all [10:02] s0d0 (n=sod@81.141.48.45) joined ##slackware. [10:02] pip_ (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) joined ##slackware. [10:03] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:03] Nick change: pip_ -> Pip [10:04] If I upgrade my RAM, do I need to do anything to allow my system to use it? [10:04] or should it automaticaly be configued by something? [10:04] um.. the BIOS? [10:04] beatzz: it should be automatic [10:04] how about a second cpu? [10:04] have a nice day guys ;) [10:05] The-Croupier: you too [10:05] when installed bios should take care of it? [10:05] The-Croupier (n=ksandros@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left ##slackware. [10:05] cuba33ci_ (n=cuba33ci@118-160-163-118.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:05] beatzz: yes, usually [10:05] how would linux handle it? [10:05] just fine [10:05] if its installed prio to the upgrades? [10:06] sweet [10:07] beatzz: the reason windows doesnt is that its specifically designed to break [10:08] Nick change: jescis_ -> jescis [10:08] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-60-60.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:08] beatzz: i have change motherboards and linux did just fine, but your experience may differ [10:08] richiguada (n=richigua@79.154.156.147) joined ##slackware. [10:09] linux/slackware [10:09] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) left irc: [10:10] spook, im purchacing a server today [10:10] :D [10:10] 50 bucks [10:10] beatzz: okay? [10:11] hi [10:11] just something im thankfull for. [10:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBvj3NkVp4M heres a classic! [10:11] its thanksgiving u know [10:11] xNOP (n=xnop@83.7.112.243) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [10:11] no it isn't. [10:11] sup Police_Station [10:11] richiguada (n=richigua@79.154.156.147) left ##slackware ("Destruido por una bomba nuclear"). [10:11] I mean Pig_Pen * [10:11] BP{k}: those damn pilgrims! :P [10:12] enjoy the turkey then, you yank :P [10:12] Todays not thanksgiving? [10:12] yes it is... [10:12] kr_eten (n=quick@client-157-92.speedy-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [10:12] Pig_Pen: hehe , that sounds like some elvis music [10:12] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@79.51.70.114) joined ##slackware. [10:13] oh happy turkey day [10:13] better than elvis [10:13] holy cow my head was pounding this morning [10:13] Nick change: GATT0 -> g4tt0 [10:13] should not have drank so much [10:13] not ready for that twangy guitar yet [10:13] back [10:13] Pig_Pen: do you listen country also? [10:13] despiron (n=1986saul@187.64.21.199) joined ##slackware. [10:13] sure, sometimes [10:14] spook: Indeed .. damn them!! [10:14] beatz: It's thanksgiving in the US. ;) [10:14] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.67.148) joined ##slackware. [10:15] BP{k}, whats it called in the rest of the world? [10:15] Thursday [10:15] .... [10:15] pprkut++ [10:15] Pig_Pen: i just bought both of jamey johnson cd's,all the songs on both cd's are really good [10:15] i guess if your from england it would be somethin like [10:15] its called the day that the europeans chased those no good pilgrims out of europe because of their beliefs [10:15] Damnit, they made it day [10:16] u know whats rotten? [10:16] i payed this POS 120 bucks [10:16] to fix the dc jack in my laptop [10:16] and he dident even fix it, it still is extremly sensitive [10:16] beatzz: which laptop is it [10:16] acer aspire 5570z [10:17] has the yellow dc jack [10:17] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:17] yea. [10:17] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [10:17] yes i fixed several of those in the past 2 yrs [10:18] did u charge 120 bucks? [10:18] i always replace the jack and add expoxy [10:19] yes 2 hrs labor 100 [10:19] uva (i=bno@118.168.237.67) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:19] ActionParsnip (n=andrewwo@cpc1-leed10-0-0-cust324.leed.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [10:20] hmm, well im not happy w/ this technician's work. [10:20] ActionParsnip (n=andrewwo@cpc1-leed10-0-0-cust324.leed.cable.ntl.com) left ##slackware. [10:20] i gata giggle the power supply cord around til it hits a sweet spot. [10:20] jiggle* [10:20] beatzz: was the jack replaced or repaired [10:20] replaiced. [10:20] replaced* [10:22] the power adapter should fit snug, if not the adapter end maybe irregular [10:22] toodiesel (n=toodiese@cpe-075-181-168-173.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:22] beatzz, i had to laptops break that way, both times it ws a broken solder joint on the jack within the laptop [10:22] xjkx (n=secret@unaffiliated/xjkx) joined ##slackware. [10:22] hey all [10:22] ÿpendrive detection problem http://pastebin.ca/1688207 [10:22] is the power adapter the original or oem [10:22] two* [10:22] how do i forcefsck in slack 13? is it still > /forcefsck ? [10:23] oem, was gana say, it could be the adapter. [10:23] then reboot? [10:23] toodiesel: /etc/forcefsck i think. have a look in /etc/rc.d/rc.S [10:24] spook: thanks ! it is /etc/forcefsck [10:24] toodiesel (n=toodiese@cpe-075-181-168-173.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:26] nemesysadm (n=nemesysa@64.53.57.12) joined ##slackware. [10:27] nemesysadm (n=nemesysa@64.53.57.12) left irc: Client Quit [10:27] gyroscope (n=master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [10:29] (\___/) [10:29] (o\ /o) [10:29] //:.V.:\\ [10:29] Channel flood from Pig_Pen -- kicking [10:29] \\:::::// [10:29] ----- [10:29] Pig_Pen kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [10:29] lol [10:29] LOL [10:29] good. [10:29] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [10:29] lol [10:29] Was lovely [10:29] wrong room [10:29] gyroscope (n=mypengui@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [10:29] gyroscope (n=mypengui@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left ##slackware. [10:30] gyroscope (n=mypengui@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [10:30] link wray was born in dunn nc [10:31] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "needing the bandwidth" [10:31] Pig_Pen: ^^ [10:31] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@74.236.254.6) joined ##slackware. [10:32] Dunn North Carolina? [10:32] i only been through NC a couple of times, and stayed in Charlotte once for a few days [10:33] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [10:33] Wray is a good guitar player, i like old stuff like that [10:34] Pig_Pen: yes dunn, nc hea is also Part Shawnee Indian according to wikipedia [10:34] spook: hurry up on linux-pmi! :P [10:34] Camarade_Tux: lol. [10:37] he was married 4 times [10:38] brbrbr (n=br@unaffiliated/brbrbr) joined ##slackware. [10:38] link wray did the original Batman theme song [10:40] wow they banned "rumble" from radio across the world even though it had no words [10:40] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.85.91) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:41] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.18.154) left irc: "Leaving" [10:41] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [10:41] you guys wouldn't know how to change the KDE4 cursor ? It looks really ugly ;) [10:42] Kamel (n=1@c-66-177-36-4.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:42] systemsettings [10:42] hey [10:42] quick question [10:42] During installation [10:42] I was going that way. But I can't seem to find a thing inside systemsettings => Appearance [10:43] It asks you to define a Hostname [10:43] after that, it wants a domain, @example.org [10:43] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [10:43] what is the domain used for? [10:43] the @example.org [10:43] beatzz: seriously, try to ask your question in one sentence instead of 5? It's reallly annoying. [10:44] yea i guess that is kind of annoying hu..sorry. [10:44] xNOP (n=xnop@83.7.114.14) joined ##slackware. [10:46] Action: brbrbr warmly greet anyone [10:47] beatzz: you can make it whatever you want, ex:beatzz @beatzz.org [10:47] gyroscope (n=mypengui@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left ##slackware. [10:49] but whats it used for? [10:49] przemoc86 (n=przemoc@89.72.161.94) joined ##slackware. [10:49] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:49] basically it's what you will be naming your computer [10:49] i thought that was the Hostname [10:49] Ah, cursor theme is hidden under systemsettings => Keyboard & Mouse => Mouse => Cursor Theme (why not in appearance? -_-).. Anyway, back to the classic cursor :) [10:51] are you setting it up on a domain, otherwise you can make something up [10:52] im not shure, It is going to be a server, so should it be on a domain? [10:52] This is the name you will see when the box boots ex: username@hostname:$ [10:52] and also, where can I find slackware CD's? [10:52] this box i may be buying today dosent have a dvd-rom [10:52] Pip (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:53] same place you got the dvd at [10:53] im lookin there [10:53] all i see is iso's [10:53] -_- nevermind [10:53] paul424 (i=1000@156.17.163.223) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [10:55] Guest20466 (n=Dont@174.101.199.63) joined ##slackware. [10:56] I think it might just be easier to grab the torrents. I had way faster download speeds with the torrent than I could get from any mirror. [10:58] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [10:58] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:59] g'devening [10:59] hey [10:59] good morning macavity [10:59] beatzz: you probably only need/use the first 2 cd's [10:59] good day macavity [10:59] beatzz: sober now? :P [11:00] Dominian: noobfarm queue needs attention [11:00] hahaha [11:01] bye [11:01] later g4tt0 [11:01] g4tt0 (n=Romeo~@79.51.70.114) left irc: [11:01] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729211829]" [11:03] slackie (n=x@87-196-21-22.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [11:04] mgm (n=milaneza@200.206.141.46) joined ##slackware. [11:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:05] macavity, very [11:05] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [11:05] turns out i spent the 10 dollars last night that would have goten me a 2ghz/1gbram pc. [11:05] w/ a dvd-rom [11:06] stead of this Dell Poweredge 300 [11:06] which is turning out to be uglier than i thought [11:06] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:06] molinero (n=molinero@187.140.49.142) joined ##slackware. [11:06] no dvd-rom, so i gata get slackware CD's... [11:06] get a 4GB USB key [11:06] i have one. [11:06] i got an 8 matter fact. [11:07] use alienBOBs nice tool to make it an install media [11:07] or will a poweredge 300 refuse to boot from USB? [11:07] can u link me? [11:07] i dont know, good question [11:08] look in the base directory of any slackware realease and you see what you need to see :P [11:08] probably will work. [11:08] slackware-13.0/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [11:08] or is it pxe-and-usb-installers.. i cant remember [11:09] gotcha. [11:09] riddlebox (n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:09] second one, i think [11:09] well seems a Dell Poweredge 2850 will boot via USB [11:09] but this 300, is old school [11:09] its even got a tape drive [11:10] + floppy [11:10] Karuna (n=chatzill@114.59.123.30) joined ##slackware. [11:14] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@98.116.202.61) joined ##slackware. [11:17] i dont know if you can make a bootable tape :P [11:18] yeah... [11:18] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [11:19] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:19] Action: init[1] hate slackware silence :-/ [11:20] good discussion > silence > bad discussion [11:20] look on the bright side [11:20] init[1]: then say something interesting/controversial, or ask a good question... and if you really want to get things going: ask a *stupid* question ;-) [11:21] Action: init[1] hate slackware's good discussion silence :D [11:21] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:21] macavity: let me think ;> [11:22] Action: Zordrak crosses fingerl and attempts to burn something with k3b [11:23] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-38-141-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:23] vantech1_ (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:23] Zordrak: negatory.. call cdrecord directly :P [11:24] k3b has gone so remarkebly down the hill since KDE4 that i am having a hard time beliving the original programmer didnt make spaghetti code from day one :P [11:25] gui takes away user control isn't it ? [11:25] macavity: not an iso.. more work needed.. CBA [11:26] init[1]: if the GUI segfaults everytime a common field mouse farts in china you could ague that it takes away *all* user control :P [11:26] o_o [11:26] its worth a try.. [11:27] Pumpkins1979 (n=asdf@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) joined ##slackware. [11:27] cdrtools is annoying on so many levels [11:27] macavity: i once use Ubuntu for 6months negating slackware , when i came back to slack i was totally lost :( [11:27] Oa/O? [11:28] WillyJ (n=WillyJ@151.55.6.42) joined ##slackware. [11:28] s/use/used/ [11:29] init[1]: that is about the equvalent of saying "i once saw spectator sports on the TV for 6 months egating readin, when i came back to books i was totally lost" :P [11:30] its making me an ISO so at least i can burn that manually if it borks [11:30] tuxdev_: i just set cdrecord suid root and change the group to burner... that clears all that annoyances right up [11:30] that clears up *one* level of annoyances [11:30] 4750 root:burner [11:31] what else is annoying about it? [11:31] macavity: yea may be ,but still look at the consequence in both the cases ;) [11:31] init[1]: yes.. you get dumber from doing dumb shit exclusively :P [11:31] big surprise there :P [11:32] the fact that it's technically illegal for slack to have the package on the servers is one [11:32] <-- point proven [11:32] large parts of the population doesnt seem to grasp that [11:32] despite what Jorg seems to think [11:32] tuxdev_: huh?!? [11:32] u guys, i just vacumed up like, 10-15 flys in my apartment [11:32] :D [11:32] CDDL + GPL = null [11:32] metrofox: :P [11:33] beatzz: boy am i glad you told me that! [11:33] tuxdev_: oh, ill have to look at the source [11:33] what, you never went on a fly sucking rage befor? [11:33] s0d0 (n=sod@81.141.48.45) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:34] its quite exhelerating. [11:34] >.< k3b didnt even manage to build the ISO before dying [11:34] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-185.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:34] macavity, it was a huge deal a while back - it's why debian forked it to cdrkit [11:35] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:35] roger.. i just read the wp article [11:35] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [11:35] that sucks.. everyone knows that GPL is only compatible with licenses that allows for full conversion to GPL [11:35] which the CDDL does *not* [11:35] Zordrak: 13.0 or -current? [11:36] 13 [11:36] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:36] upgrade k3b [11:36] is there an official upgrade of k3b for 13? [11:36] pprkut: if i could be arsed.. just gonna mkisofs this time around [11:36] Action: macavity is on -current too and cant be arsed to look [11:36] macavity: not that I know of [11:37] macavity: there oughtnt be.. unless it were officially a securty update [11:37] yay.. 30 zillion options for mkisofs [11:37] Zordrak: sometimes we get updates of things that got out the door severly broken [11:37] Zordrak: well i don't know if you would accept it ,if you don't mind try xfburn [11:38] hi init[1] :) [11:38] metrofox: ;) [11:38] anyone using rzip here? [11:38] oh, macavity, hay :) [11:38] Zordrak: I found that burning a dvd with dvd+rwtools was giving the same error as k3b. Using cdrecord helped [11:39] Guest20466 (n=Dont@174.101.199.63) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:39] Camarade_Tux: hello my little freind.. would you mind comming into this dark alley with me for some popsicles and poppies? :P [11:40] macavity: \o/ [11:40] i can burn fine.. just need to make the iso.. which ive just done [11:40] macavity: just give me a minute to put my shoes on :) [11:40] fatmike666 (n=vhprice@187.4.13.35) joined ##slackware. [11:41] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [11:41] hey everybody. Can you help me? [11:41] i haz pwnies and ze unicrons too [11:41] macavity: \o/ [11:41] fatmike666: no, sorry [11:41] fatmike666: it depends [11:41] fatmike666: not untill you tell us what the problem is :P [11:41] macavity: I'm waiting for xz to finish and I'm out :) [11:41] fatmike666: aka "dont ask to ask, just ask" ;-) [11:42] I make the fsck check in a disk but now, everything goes to the lost+found folder... [11:42] Camarade_Tux: good.. i'll plant the small webcams while you are out.. i owe you two nasties by now :P [11:42] is there some clue to restore this stuff? [11:42] fatmike666: in that case the filesystem was pretty badly hosed [11:42] i think we should all meet up somewhere in europe. [11:43] negatory.. it did its best to recover the individual files [11:43] I can access the data inside those folders. [11:43] Action: Zordrak votes for Sheffield [11:43] maybe german, they have good beer right? [11:43] macavity: ^^ [11:43] english only channel -> english speaking country :) [11:43] macavity: btw, don't try to activate my laptop's webcam, I removed the kernel module and it's a bitch to install :) [11:43] (well, not really a bitch, but still) [11:44] snicker.. ill just plant it as a payload in libsata [11:44] plus, getting into the UK is easier than snapping a match [11:44] you shall nevar seek mah leet hax! [11:44] fatmike666 (n=vhprice@187.4.13.35) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [11:46] woo for mkisofs&&cdrecord [11:47] Karuna_ (n=chatzill@114.58.34.122) joined ##slackware. [11:47] paissad-hp (n=paissad@89.87.195.22) joined ##slackware. [11:47] Action: macavity hears Zordrak dings [11:47] dings? [11:47] Karuna_ (n=chatzill@114.58.34.122) left irc: Client Quit [11:47] WoW expression for going up one level [11:48] o [11:48] because it says "ding" when you do [11:48] Karuna_ (n=chatzill@114.58.34.122) joined ##slackware. [11:48] i got invited back to wow for 7 free days [11:49] dont take the bait [11:49] its another blue bill [11:49] yeah i quit mmos forever. [11:49] just like crack dealers, the first rock is free [11:49] Action: Zordrak never went in the first place [11:49] FOREVER [11:49] Karuna (n=chatzill@114.59.123.30) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:50] Nick change: Karuna_ -> Karuna [11:50] good [11:50] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:51] Pig_Pen: windoze is crack [11:51] slackie (n=x@87-196-21-22.net.novis.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:51] WoW == IRC, but with oper status granted to whoever spends the most time in it, or whoever makes more newbs leave of their own accord [11:52] omg i just ran '/ban' in #ubuntu , wow its amazing ! [11:52] WillyJ (n=WillyJ@151.55.6.42) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:52] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [11:52] wow is tha lame [11:52] O_o [11:52] ;) [11:52] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-168-238-94.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [11:53] init[1]: /banall ? [11:53] snL20: /ban [11:53] using /ban lists the bans [11:53] spook: oh right like irssi /bans [11:54] uh what [11:54] spook: hmmm, same thing actually.. nevermind [11:55] spook: just an /alias [11:56] steiger_ (n=steiger@189.105.79.85) joined ##slackware. [11:57] kinell >200 [11:58] hrad (i=505f7119@gateway/web/freenode/x-wvhbjryefptnsovo) left irc: "Page closed" [11:58] now.. to decide what to do with my evening... the missus is away for the night [11:58] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [11:59] Zordrak: become a jack the ripper copy-cat [11:59] Zordrak: fapfapfap [11:59] :) [11:59] Hermann (n=Hermannn@81.170.156.174) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [11:59] spook: too buch effort [11:59] eviljames: see above [11:59] *much [12:00] when cat is away, the mice will play! [12:00] Action: Zordrak != mouse [12:00] ah, you prefer CLI input. [12:01] hello [12:01] That's good, you'll find that most people here do the same. [12:01] buh? [12:01] does anyone have any experiance with suspend to ram on laptops ? [12:01] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [12:01] mine works out of the box [12:01] guess i could spend in setting up nagios at home [12:01] macavity: gogogo [12:01] needs doing [12:01] but i have Intel graphics and KMS, so that is probably soe of the reasons [12:02] hello_world (n=icarus@130.226.140.2) left irc: "leaving" [12:02] Pumpkins1979 (n=asdf@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) left irc: "Leaving" [12:03] :( mininova bites the dust [12:04] toast10101 (n=toast101@ip70-179-145-160.fv.ks.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:05] my suspend to ram worked too [12:05] rfdrew (n=rfdrew@20-3-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:05] in slackware it did not work in ubuntu however whihc is one reason i went 100% slackware orrigially it was slackware for destoipt ubunut for laptop [12:05] noooooo way mininova's gone !!!!!! [12:05] Gutted :( [12:05] it did not work in ubunt* [12:06] i jsut real;ized i worded that really bad [12:06] should have been in slackware, i think [12:07] anyone remember supernova ?? [12:08] of course [12:08] :D [12:08] makes me feel old :D I remember downloading shareaza for the first time back in 98 [12:09] and waiting about 3 weeks for scary movie to download on my dial up connection hahaha [12:09] doesn't tpb have to go legal or w/e [12:09] Agiofws: I experienced a suspend to ram the other day.. No idea why the machine did it or whta I pressed that triggered it, but it happened. [12:09] hrm [12:09] where it alows some free torrent dls and then you can pay like $4 a month or somehting [12:09] i don't think it has yet but i heard it was going to [12:10] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@98.116.202.61) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [12:10] appears someone is sending out spam using my email account [12:10] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:10] i got serveral bounced back mails i didnt send [12:10] drgr33n: shareaza was 2002 [12:10] stop downloading porn then :D [12:10] napster came before [12:10] lol [12:10] no way [12:10] i havnt been [12:10] I moved from my mums in 2001 [12:11] it was aswell !! no way ! I must of been using something else then ?? [12:11] napster was '99 [12:12] maybe they jsutspoofed their email to look liek yours? [12:12] toastytoast, my isp does not authenticate outgoing mail [12:12] wasnt napster only music though ?? [12:12] i could use any account name i know to send mail from [12:12] so.. are all the suggestions i have for my evening summed up by Murder or Fap? [12:13] lol [12:13] drgr33n: i moved onto KaZaA for simpons episodes in aboot 2002 [12:13] um find a bunch of old computers and isntall slackware on them [12:13] make a beowulf cluster with them [12:13] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [12:13] and attemp to take over the world [12:13] toastytoast: theres enough slack in my house already without me paying for the elctrir of morce [12:13] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.79.85) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:13] enoguh to attempt wolrd domination? [12:14] clustering == hardest thing evar [12:14] How come, when i run startx, and go grahpical, whenever i go to log out of the kde sesion, my screen just gos' black [12:14] wow I must have my dates wrong then ?? I never got into KaZaA. I remember having napster before they started to charge [12:14] and dosent take me back to init 3? [12:14] so takeing over the world will be totally worth it [12:14] and it better than murder or faping [12:14] im in the process of implementing two completely separate clustering systems at work on my own right now... im not going hdome to cluster [12:15] pft you'r eno fun [12:15] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-38-141-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: [12:15] then try to take over the world some other way [12:15] but world domination is always an option [12:15] Murder : not relaxing. Fap : potentially relaxing but too much effort. Beowulf : Too much effort AND not relaxing [12:15] Anyone know whatsup w/ GUI not releasing my screen when i go back to init 3? [12:16] alkos333 (n=alkos333@adsl-75-57-68-32.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] lol [12:16] Ctrl-Alt-Backspace wont cure it, Ctrl-Alt-Del wont reboot it, nothing [12:16] slackie (n=x@87-196-21-22.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:16] i have to pull the battery out to get the thing to turn off [12:16] _bruno (n=bruno@189-55-38-141-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:16] beatzz: atl-cntrl+f6 [12:16] what about ctrl + alt + f6 [12:16] nothin [12:17] beatzz: try it [12:17] ok, let me startx [12:17] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:17] is tillsay world domination [12:17] how can you startx with a blank screen ?? [12:18] becasue it might not be relaxing at first but once you rull the world [12:18] Ctrl-Alt-Del will reboot if you are in terminal mode. [12:18] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [12:18] hello [12:18] are you using another framebuffer like intelfb ? [12:18] ctrl-alt-delte is supose to kill x cleanly i beleive [12:18] This problem is also random [12:18] Agiofws: Yes, hello? [12:18] can someone tell me what a framebuffer is ? [12:19] cause it just loged out of X and went to init 3 [12:19] toastytoast, i think some distro like ubuntu has disabled that thing [12:19] i restarted X and ran some programs [12:19] let me see if it will do it again [12:19] then stab them [12:19] toastytoast: s/deltle/bkspc/ [12:19] slackie__ (n=x@87.196.21.22) joined ##slackware. [12:19] the other distros that is [12:19] There are machines that will not resume when using a framebuffer console [12:19] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:20] framebuffer - pixel emulation for terminal ?? [12:20] no ctrl+alt+delet kills x unless you are in cli in whach case it srestarts [12:20] Something like that? [12:20] and one of them pretty sure with the delete is supose to kill cleanly [12:20] framebuffer is a video output device that drives a video display from a memory buffer containing a complete frame of data. [12:20] and ctrl-alt-backspce does kill x i know but so does ctl-alt-delete [12:20] brbrbr (n=br@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: "Leaving" [12:21] take a hammer to it lol [12:21] toastytoast: it locks the screen [12:21] toastytoast: it doesn't kill X [12:21] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framebuffer [12:21] Action: Zordrak just discovered he could convert the gridengine cluster into a beowulf cluster reasonably easily [12:21] no i jsut did it the other day [12:21] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-168-238-94.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:21] hahah calm down ladies !! [12:21] toastytoast: try it now [12:22] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-197-247.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:22] lol^ [12:22] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [12:22] toast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-197-247.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:22] yep jsut killed x [12:22] Nick change: toast -> toastytoast [12:23] toastytoast: What command did you use? [12:23] toastytoast: are you sure you are on slackware ? [12:23] Everyone hear mininova just bit the dust? [12:23] (to kill X) [12:23] yes i'm in slackware [12:23] kill X [12:23] i'm useing fluxbox [12:23] start x [12:23] hahahahaha [12:24] maybe its jsut fluxbox [12:24] toastytoast: telinit 3 ; telinit 4 [12:24] why do people bethr saying telinit instead of init? [12:24] *bother [12:24] jsut looked in keys Control Mod1 Delete :Exit <- [12:25] so i think it depends on the wm/desktop enviro you use [12:25] root (n=root@174.101.199.63) joined ##slackware. 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[12:25] since i use fluxbox mostly [12:26] i've gotten use to ctrl+alt+delete [12:26] toastytoast: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/ctrl-alt-backspace-or-logout-to-exit-x-or-whatever-769822/ [12:28] so nthen ctrl+alt+delete is fluxbox's log out i assume i know ctrl+alt+backspace kills X [12:28] gutts (n=gutts@ALyon-152-1-120-85.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:28] Action: init[1] #ubuntu is fun [12:28] i use control+alt+backspace [12:28] msotly [12:28] there are many adjectives to describe #ubuntu.. i dont see "fun" in the list [12:29] but then my firend pointed who also uses fluxbox that ctrl+alt+delte is safer [12:29] safer? [12:29] Is anyone here running bluez-4* [12:29] jblanton (n=jblanton@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:29] thats how he put it [12:29] wella ctually he said cleaner nvm [12:29] toastytoast: its *less* clean.. [12:30] How come in SW firefox if I click the address bar it doesnt highlight the entire address so I can type over it like in windows? Is there a way to do that? [12:30] Zordrak: well ;) #ubuntu is a channel so 'we can say AXN is fun' so as #ubuntu :P [12:30] owait.. no .. its more clean than bksp [12:30] accordsing to that linux question logout is the safer way [12:30] yep [12:30] of course [12:30] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) joined ##slackware. [12:31] urh, how do i make rsync connect on a different port [12:31] Logging out is much nicer to running apps [12:31] -p? [12:31] rsync --help | grep port [12:31] --port=PORT [12:31] using user@host:1022:/ or user@host:/ --port=1234 doesnt work [12:32] well anywya i need a shower [12:32] anyone know the answer to my easy question? it's bothering me =( [12:32] it does say "specify double-colon alternate port rumber" [12:32] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-183-116-40.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [12:32] ?? [12:32] How come in SW firefox if I click the address bar it doesnt highlight the entire address so I can type over it like in windows? Is there a way to do that? [12:32] I thought it was --port [12:32] oops sorry [12:32] Zordrak: see my first example. [12:32] elliot98 (n=elliot@bzq-79-183-116-40.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Client Quit [12:33] spook: i mean it says use --port ta specify double colon.... [12:33] spook is your example exactly how you are typing it [12:33] :/ [12:33] drgr33n: hmmm? [12:33] using ssh? [12:34] =\ [12:34] spook: ^ ? [12:34] user@host::1022:/ i think [12:34] I mean are you putting the option before or after the destination ? [12:34] rsync -avzhPiu --delete spook@linuxpmi.net:1022:/var/www/trac /array/tmp/ [12:35] -e "ssh -p $port" ? [12:35] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [12:35] rsync -avzhPiu --delete --port=1022 --no-motd spook@linuxpmi.net/var/www/trac /array/tmp/ [12:35] vaibhav (n=landy@122.166.88.187) joined ##slackware. [12:35] ok thanks anyways, bye [12:35] quit [12:35] jblanton (n=jblanton@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [12:36] Zordrak: yay i love you that worked [12:36] :) [12:36] lol [12:36] cuba33ci (n=cuba33ci@118-160-162-37.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [12:37] me doesnt use rsyncd.. i use it exclusively over ssh [12:37] Zordrak: fail [12:37] action fail :P [12:37] ahwell [12:38] Zordrak: thats why i have the problem. :P [12:39] Nick change: init[1] -> init[0] [12:39] later slacker [12:39] looks like without ssh its supposed to be user@host:port/path [12:39] but i dont totally believe it [12:40] --port is daemon mode only [12:42] spook: whats rsync doing ifyou dont specify -e ssh? [12:42] trying to connect on port 22 [12:42] |Cyb3rGh0st| (n=user@84.19.169.252) joined ##slackware. [12:42] assuming you're specifying user@host not rsync://foo [12:42] -e ssh must be default [12:42] yeah i'm using ssh not rsync:// [12:43] i always specify it so never realised [12:43] so my solution's right-on :) yay me \o/ [12:43] slackie (n=x@87-196-21-22.net.novis.pt) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [12:43] Zordrak: <3 [12:44] right.. im off home to shrink some XFS and then if i have time, install nagios [12:45] unfortunately, shrinking 500G XKS to 400G XFS means 800G worth of file-copy in the middle :( [12:45] millennia (n=millenni@c-98-217-138-62.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:45] s/XKS/XFS/ [12:46] anyone got 13 installed on an actual dual cpu smp system? [12:47] only 64bit [12:47] pireau (i=1000@pdpc/supporter/student/pireau) joined ##slackware. [12:47] but then id like to meet the idiot that installs 32bit 13.0 on a dual cpu system :) [12:48] why? if it's only a dual p3, it seems like there's not much choice [12:48] orite.. in that case [12:48] Action: Zordrak is thinking xeon/opteron [12:49] kde is strange.... my friend was using the laptop for a while and somehow slow keys got enabled and i was thinking what happened to the keyboard [12:49] Action: phrag cradles his i7 [12:49] i say opteron but that cuz i'm an amd fanboy [12:50] slackie__ (n=x@87.196.21.22) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:50] I managed to get it to install once, but it was a bad install with a lot of the required files just never written to the hd, an the kernel config step crashes [12:50] I'm thinking a smp problem [12:50] Server Motherboard: AMD. Desktop Motherboard: Intel. [12:51] Purely because since Asus went down the shitter, GOOD AMD desktop boards are like rocking-horse shit [12:51] http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/duel-titans,620.html [12:51] millennia: if this is during install it sounds more like bad media.. unless that has been ruled out [12:51] ^ i'm pretty sure thats pretty old tho [12:52] the cd dff'd ok against the iso, and the iso md5'd ok [12:52] ram been tested recently? [12:52] yes, I tried that after the first 5 failed installs [12:53] hmm.. it just totally sniffs of hardware rather than software [12:53] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:53] but obv i cant really prove ither way [12:53] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:54] I noticed the smp part of the install kernel was complaining about the 2'nd cpu having different settings from the first but that it would use it anyways [12:54] i cant try installing 32 on a dual-xeon tomorrow [12:54] millennia: slotters? [12:54] socket 370 [12:54] hm [12:54] *shrug* sorry [12:54] http://www.beigebinary.com/what-if-linux-distros-were-women [12:55] see y'all when i get home and crack open the Magners [12:55] I hardware is ok in it's own right, but I guess the kernel has a problem with it [12:55] i don't see slackware on there [12:56] gay, it's a redhat user's site, that's why [12:56] lol [12:56] yep... for me slackware is a lesbian biker riding a harley davidson :) [12:57] you cna lkook but don't touch? [12:57] i always imagening slackware as a hot geeky goth chick with nice pale skin [12:57] anywya i need to go eat turky [12:57] goth? nasty [12:57] slackware is carrie underwood or brooke burke [12:57] i love goth girls? [12:58] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-46-129.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:58] what do you ahve against them? [12:58] it's an android with assembly required [12:58] even i like goth girls [12:58] i mean brooke burns [12:59] millennia (n=millenni@c-98-217-138-62.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [12:59] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.31.34) joined ##slackware. [12:59] goth girls are disgusting freaks [12:59] they probably have penii [12:59] Whats wrong with daisy? [12:59] jeev: what the fuck. [13:00] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:00] what [13:00] seriously? [13:00] what ever happened to simple beautiful and cute girls [13:00] vanilla is boring [13:00] http://bryngreenwood.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/goth-how-to.jpg that's so disgusting [13:00] spook, then stop using slackware [13:01] we're not talking distros, we're talking women. [13:01] same thing, different type of orgasm [13:01] jeev: the problem is that with cute girls.. i just like to cuddle with them and but with goth girls i can easily play out my fantasies :) [13:01] spook++ [13:02] i dont know what kind of nasty fantasies you have.. but cute girls can do a lot of things, even look goth for you one night if you want [13:02] but goth girls are goth for a reason, they're naturally butt fugly [13:02] BP{k}: i know a thing or two. :D [13:02] i've seen maybe one or two hot ones [13:02] spook: so I figured. :) [13:03] jeev: that is what the point is... i myself feel bad playing my fantasies with cute girls...somehow i feel to care care of them rather than do nasty things :P [13:03] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.90.53) joined ##slackware. [13:03] true [13:03] if it's not your girlfriend or wife, dont worry [13:03] that women as distros blogpost sucks. [13:05] ugly goth girls need lovin too [13:05] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.31.34) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [13:05] i think the only ugly people that are being talked about here is jeev. [13:05] Pig_Pen, sure. I need a million dollars. No one is volunteering for either. [13:06] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@201.50.155.201) joined ##slackware. [13:06] i am working on my second million, i already gave up making my first million [13:06] Pig_Pen, i'll leave that for the ugly people! [13:08] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:08] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [13:09] thats not nice jeev, just think of those poor lonely ugly goth girls [13:09] Pig_Pen: they arent ugly. jeev is [13:09] in your dreams spook, ugly people resort to goths [13:09] see, jeev would make a good match for an ugly goth girl ;p [13:10] haha [13:10] There's not point in arguing about this. Goth is a fetish. Some people like it. jeev is not one of them. [13:10] no* point [13:10] i like girls in clean lingerie, not spandex with knives sticking out of them [13:10] goths r poo [13:10] lol. [13:11] they eat poo too, right snL20 [13:11] jeev: yeah >:] [13:11] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [13:11] lol [13:11] rofl [13:11] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:11] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@98.14.234.253) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [13:12] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [13:12] lol [13:12] BP{k}: quality conversation. [13:12] Kiboney_Dude (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Karuna (n=chatzill@114.58.34.122) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]" [13:15] well moving on from this goth flame war... i dont get one thing...why is this patent business has so much money floating into it [13:16] because it is wildly profitable [13:16] step 1: Do no work, but assert a patent [13:16] Step 2: ??? [13:16] Step 3: PROFIT!! [13:16] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.49.162) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:16] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@201.50.155.201) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [13:16] eviljames: i work in a patent company and some of these software patents are pure bullshit [13:17] s/some/all/ [13:17] we refer to them as YASP - yet another stupid patent [13:17] All software is just a collection of increment, decrement and jump. [13:17] software patents are mostly invalid due to prior art [13:17] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:17] metrofox1 (n=metrofox@ppp-231-251.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [13:17] gutts (n=gutts@ALyon-252-1-21-179.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:17] yeah... I'm back [13:17] and people are making money out of them..just by enforcing legal authority on them... [13:17] metrofox (n=metrofox@151.33.251.231) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:18] Nick change: metrofox1 -> metrofox [13:18] ChArLoK_16 (n=WRX10@78.110.108.173) joined ##slackware. [13:18] 31c0b002cd80 [13:19] spook: Prior art like Euclid? [13:19] Or other 'foundations of mathematics' folks? [13:19] eviljames: as in most stuff. [13:20] technically, prior art is anything that was published before the patent application was files [13:21] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:21] http://imagebin.org/73106 thanksgiving on sesame street [13:21] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-164-42-164.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] vaibhav: I think Euclid would count in that he was published some 2,300 years ago... [13:24] thumbs (i=1000@24.200.141.179) left irc: "Reconnecting" [13:24] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:25] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:25] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [13:26] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:26] cichlasoma (n=cichlaso@r6bj68.net.upc.cz) joined ##slackware. [13:27] OutOfBound (n=mayconma@201.39.157.226) left irc: "CyberScript - President Bush uses CyberScript. Shouldn't you? (www.cyberscript.org)" [13:28] hi. i've installed slackware and i installed no bootloader thinking i'll add an entry into my menu.lst manually. now, i see, there's no initrd.gz in /boot directory of my slackware installation. what's wrong? [13:28] You don't need an initrd [13:28] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.47.159) joined ##slackware. [13:28] so it's normal, i have no? [13:29] cichlasoma: menu.lst. grub. [13:29] More likely than not you can just add root (hd0,x) & kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdx ro vga=whtaever [13:30] eviljames: thanks... so, slackware 13 simply doesn't have initrd.gz, unlike other distros? [13:30] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:31] other distros are stupidheads. :P [13:31] cichlasoma: It's not needed, even in those other distros. [13:31] By all means you can make one [13:32] fire|bird: hey, didn't you work on getting xulrunner built several months ago? [13:33] lotec (n=lotec@71.180.225.52) joined ##slackware. [13:33] eviljames: well, i've found mkinitrd file... [13:34] vaibhav (n=landy@122.166.88.187) left irc: "Leaving" [13:34] vga option is needed, BTW? [13:34] No, but it looks prettier imho [13:34] vga=ask to get the modes [13:34] iirc vga=318 = 1024x768x32 [13:34] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-114-196.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:35] What package does tput come in? [13:35] Bonsoir, hello [13:36] couldn't it be done with autoexec=xconf;startx like in Slax? [13:36] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:37] agentc0re: nope, not xulrunner, my battle was with SeaMonkey. [13:40] i'm sorry, i see now, vga= affects just the booting phase... :-) [13:40] cichlasoma: yeah, it sets the framebuffer mode or some such magic :P [13:41] wow, it boots! :-) [13:42] does the vga= cheatcode have any effect when i use no splashscreen? [13:42] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:45] cichlasoma: The text in console shells should be smaller? [13:48] Is there a nice application for X which would allow me to shrink the actual size of my 19' LCD ? that is the total surface displayed would be like those of 15' ? [13:50] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.47.159) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:52] eviljames: i like it this way, i just assure myself, the vga= cheatcode takes no effect for me... [13:52] cheatcode lol [13:52] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.110.16) joined ##slackware. [13:52] paul424: As in, to not use all of your screen real estate?H [13:53] spook: are bootoptions not called cheatcodes in slackware? [13:53] no i think they are called parameters [13:53] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:53] impy (n=impy@88.147.70.16) left irc: [13:54] spook: ok. other distros call them cheatcodes... [13:54] ... cheatcodes.... [13:54] I think I need to severly hitmyself with a flogger several times to regain sanity.... [13:55] BP{k}: any problem? [13:55] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:57] BP{k}: Allow me. [13:57] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@98.116.202.61) left irc: [13:57] XGizzmo: you're clear to proceed. :) [13:58] eviljames: yes, not to use all of my screen real estate :) [13:58] paul424, im just curious as to why you would want that ? [13:59] BP{k}: excuse my naivity, what's wrong? do you read the term "cheatcode" for first the time in this context, or what? [14:00] BP{k}: whats with this guy? [14:01] cichlasoma: I think it's utterly silly (read: retarded) to call something cheatcodes, what are just standard options/parameters. The only reason I can see for it that a distro likes to misguide their users by giving them the idea they are suddenly "zomgguruz" because they can read a piece of documentation. Note that upstream does not use the word "cheatcodes" but just "options". [14:01] BP{k} is busy being flogged. [14:02] XGizzmo: okay, i'm in line after you to flog him [14:02] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Client Quit [14:03] Action: Zordrak is at home with spalcofrol \o/ [14:03] whats that [14:03] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:03] a form of syphlis i think [14:04] malcobol [14:04] impy (n=impy@88.147.70.16) joined ##slackware. [14:04] palconol [14:05] alcohol? [14:05] well if you're drinking, i'm definately not going to drink. [14:05] macavity: cameras ready? :) [14:05] :O [14:06] BP{k}: LOL! :-)))))))))))))))))) really don't know how you came to an idea of a "zomgguru", yet enjoy it! :-) (it's very common BTW, try to google it some day...) [14:06] mmmmm.. Magners in a real Magners glass [14:07] w/ ice [14:07] && burgers under the grill [14:07] cheese in the fridge [14:07] Zordrak: you're making me hungry [14:08] getsum [14:08] hrm [14:08] im starving now too [14:08] :) [14:08] even have pre-cut warburtons buns [14:08] i'm going to grill some ham and cheese [14:08] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-244-205.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Wiren (n=aad@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:09] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-46-129.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:09] yoghhurt or Runchy Cut Pornflakes for puddin [14:09] cichlasoma: fwiw, I've never heard the term cheatcode used for an option [14:09] shouldn't burgers be _on_ the grill? [14:09] cooking, awaiting my arrival. [14:09] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-114-196.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [14:09] Scuzz: from smaller surface it is easier to read for me. [14:09] eviljames: are you british? [14:10] your talking about changing the resolution ? [14:10] spook: canuck [14:10] theyre on the grill pan, which is underneath the grill [14:10] unless you refer to the entire unit as a grill in which case it's IN the grill.. [14:10] eviljames: yes well the british do this thing where they put stuff UNDER the grill [14:10] CornFed (n=ORERRY@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:10] Underclass (n=Undercla@122.163.129.202) joined ##slackware. [14:10] also they spell jail weird [14:10] Nick change: CornFed -> Guest57634 [14:10] anyone available to answer a question for a noob trying to install vlc? [14:11] eviljames: well, you simply don't use Knoppix, DSL, Slax and some other distros... [14:11] using alienBOB's slackbuild? [14:11] Guest57634: you answer mnine first [14:11] (for vlc) [14:11] Guest57634: why not use alienBOB's slackbuild? [14:11] Nick change: Guest57634 -> Corn [14:11] cichlasoma: I use Slackware exclusively. [14:11] Guest57634: install alienBOB's package. problem solved [14:11] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-114-196.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:12] Nick change: Corn -> OReery [14:12] Action: Zordrak is sharpening a ridiculously huge knife [14:12] anyone available to answer a question for a noob trying to install vlc? [14:12] Action: Zordrak pronounces is knoife.. just for spook [14:12] I see you've played knifey spooney before! [14:12] i have a 'knife' too [14:12] OReery: youve been answered twice [14:12] buts its 47cm long [14:13] sorry dude im getting used to xchat and it keeps telling me my nick is registered and booting me [14:13] maybe you should identify with nickserv then [14:13] install the alienBob's vlc package [14:13] And I don't see where anyone has answered me [14:13] Guest57634 : http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vlc/ [14:14] Well I did install the alienBob versions but it tells me "Cannot run /usr/bin/vlc" when i try and run it [14:14] trying to run it as root [14:14] ? [14:14] no let me try that [14:14] OReery: dont get used to X-Chat. If you're not already used to it, dump it and get used to irssi instead] [14:15] Underclass (n=Undercla@122.163.129.202) left irc: "Leaving" [14:15] Zordrak: I've tried to use irssi and don't prefer a totally terminal irc client [14:15] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@194.187.72.253) joined ##slackware. [14:15] i will most likely get something different xchat is terrible [14:16] OReery: use mirc inside wine [14:16] Action: spook ducks [14:16] lol [14:16] OReery: fyi, at a guesstimate, 90% of users in here run irssi [14:16] spook: ok i guess i dont know how to run it as root, there is no vlc files in /usr/bin [14:16] Zordrak: I dont care? [14:16] OReery: you CANT run it as root. it doesnt let you [14:16] cichlasoma (n=cichlaso@r6bj68.net.upc.cz) left ##slackware. [14:16] Zordrak: Every time I come here you are lets say....less than helpful [14:17] OReery: no need to be a cockend [14:17] no need to be rude [14:17] just providing sound advice [14:17] lol [14:17] hes a NOBend [14:17] always bitchin goin on here aint there !!! lol [14:17] or if you want to be more polite, a BELLend [14:17] Zordrak: I'm not trying to be, I'm the same guy you told the other day to quit trying to use linux because i didnt know enough about it [14:17] OReery: i tend to agree with Zordrak on that one. [14:17] I dont know why, but every time I come in here you jump my shit, im trying to learn [14:17] OReery, you running slackware 32 bit or 64 bit or a version of current ? [14:18] 64 bit [14:18] did you change the arch in the slackbuild ? [14:18] i compiled vlc yesterday [14:18] OReery: go hit up the channel logs.. i never even suggested that. What I told you, VERY clearly, is that if you are going to partition up a disk, you should read the partition howto first instead of wading in with your cock-out, asking us for directions [14:18] Zordrak: for instace, when i come here with a vlc problem you jumo my shit about what the most popular irc client to use is. I'm not trying to be a dick but it just isnt helpful. [14:18] export ARCH=x86_64; ./vlc.SlackBuild [14:19] spook: whats that sweet link? [14:19] sweet.nodnssomething [14:19] Zordrak: I dont really want to argue about it. I just dont understand your methods of helping. [14:19] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: Client Quit [14:19] http://sweet.nodns4.us/ [14:19] OReery: hit up that link ^ [14:19] ty i will try that [14:20] then go get the vlc slackbuild and source.. run: ARCH=x86_64 ./vlc.SlackBuild [14:20] does anyone know what time rworkman is usually on here ?? [14:21] when he has time. [14:21] drgr33n: when he feels like it really [14:21] lol [14:21] he was on at 8am GMT [14:21] but has been seen around 5pm too [14:21] drgr33n: when hes on here. [14:21] as well as 4am [14:21] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:21] hes often here watching but is avoiding people [14:21] like you [14:21] sorry that was mean [14:21] spook: ++ [14:22] ok guys he just mailed me to meet him on here ?? thats what i thought he must be the other side of the world from me lol [14:22] ive seen him duck out quickly when his name is mentioned :) [14:22] hahaha [14:23] ok I'l hang around for a while I'm not up 2 much :D [14:23] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [14:23] Zordrak: Sorry, I'm having a bad day =) [14:23] FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT !! [14:23] lol [14:23] OReery: oh? i didnt notice. [14:23] noooo [14:23] cmon burgers.. cook [14:23] get cooked and get in my mouth [14:24] Heh, no family for turkey day and I cant make linux work =( [14:24] that damm linux :D !! [14:24] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.132.223) joined ##slackware. [14:24] i know right >.< [14:24] show him your pimp hand [14:24] Zordrak: Burgers on turkey day?! [14:24] lol thanksgiving [14:25] were having prime rib! [14:25] the american holiday that no one else cares about [14:25] turkey burgers [14:25] is it thanks giving ?? [14:25] spook, get it right.. the american holiday that killed a lot of people.. [14:25] spook: It's ok Im american and dont really care about it either im eating taco bell lol [14:25] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:25] or led to [14:25] OReery, im using slackware 64 current and i had to download and compile libdc1394 and twolame to compile aliens vlc [14:26] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [14:26] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [14:26] jeev: That depends on if you think thanksgiving had any relation to the pilgrim harvest feast or not =) [14:26] OReery: Turkey = Christmas. I have no wish to be thankful that lots of morons took charity from people they later mudered en-masse.. especially since it was nowhere near me [14:27] And what the fuck is with that anyway? Two huge "we must all get together as a family for a special occasion" holidays one month apart? [14:27] whos been stealing the time again. [14:27] its 3:30am [14:27] Zordrak: Local Indians constantly steal my collection of beautiful feathers...I have no sympathy. [14:27] It's bad enough that christmas is annual [14:27] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [14:27] hear hear Zordrak !! lol people have already started decorating their houses and its not even December yet !!! [14:27] Zordrak: lol. [14:27] no love for family? [14:28] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) joined ##slackware. [14:28] Scuzz: I'm a super noob, I dont really know how to go about all that and google doesn't seem to know either =( [14:28] in general yes... but a huge gathering two months in a row? fsck that.. i barely have enough time as it is [14:28] OReery: well you're too stupid for linux and should quit then :P [14:28] spook: I'm starting to see thart [14:28] that* [14:28] lol [14:29] OReery: Prepare yourself for an honest observation. [14:29] OReery, you can download the slackbuilds for those two packages at slackbuilds.org [14:29] man OReery your doing my head in now lol you sound like my dog winging whats up ?? [14:29] christmas is what i could care less about because it is not only commercialized it also just another fake god worshipped by a fake religion that plagiurized from previous religions & mythologies [14:29] Zordrak: Accept my apology and stop making me feel bad lol [14:29] =) [14:29] OReery: Slack64 is not multilib and it makes it harder than 32-bit. If youre just starting out.. re-starting with 32 bit is probably a good idea. [14:29] yea christmas is overrated [14:29] turned it into shopping season, that's when you know people are idiots [14:29] they get into debt to buy gifts that people return [14:30] i want to invent burgers that get bigger as you grill them, not smaller [14:30] Zordrak: lol. [14:30] i stopped celebrating christmans when i stopped getting gifts from family [14:30] jeev, no debt here this year , im sending everyone a burnt slackware dvd [14:30] the piss up at the office is always good though [14:30] Zordrak: I might actually take you up on that, pretty much any how-to I have followed hasn't worked [14:30] maybe that's why [14:30] Scuzz, sexy [14:30] i'm yet to sleep with a girl on christmas [14:31] i need to rectify this [14:31] OReery: 64bit slack is reasonably new in itself leading to a reasonably small amount of available help on where its different to 32 [14:31] I [14:31] spook, you're yet to sleep with a girl PERIOD. [14:31] spook: I'll trade you mine for your linux knowledge [14:31] lol [14:31] ChArLoK_16 (n=WRX10@78.110.108.173) left irc: "leaving" [14:31] at least thanksgiving gives family and friends a chance to all spend a little time together [14:31] jeev: thank you, insensitive as always [14:31] jeev: I usually DONT sleep witht them when theyre on their PERIOD [14:31] :> [14:31] Zordrak: yes! [14:31] Zordrak, gotta do what you've gotta do [14:31] even though i haven't [14:31] unless you meant full-stop.. in which case stop being american [14:32] LSD` (n=ianweb@dsl-58-7-6-82.wa.westnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [14:32] Action: Zordrak still has his knoife [14:32] and is cracking another beer [14:32] you love them zima [14:32] OReery: i've had a girl the past 5 christmas [14:32] Rackattack (n=eric@adsl-074-170-000-007.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:32] zima? does ANYONE who's not american know what that is? [14:32] but we didnt do it actually ON christmas [14:32] i didnt know they still made zima [14:33] I'm gonna take a break and walk the dog, thanks for the advice guys. Sorry for being a cockgobbler Zordrak [14:33] i didn't either, i just remembered it [14:33] ++ [14:33] OReery: no, its a BELLend [14:33] hahaha [14:33] I have a question regarding window managers and desktop environments :) [14:33] hahahaha [14:33] Woo!! burgers are done \o/ [14:33] BELLend gobbling cock muncher [14:33] Rackattack: i have an answer. [14:33] Rackattack: http://sweet.nodns4.us/ [14:33] lol [14:33] I think you got your cock and gobble mixed up [14:33] Rackattack: specifically: http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc [14:34] eh [14:34] Rackattack, ask your question [14:34] these guys are turds [14:34] lol [14:34] i probably wont answer you but it'll get you a step closer to an answer if you were to ask [14:34] haha [14:34] lol [14:34] Don't ask to ask It's a bad manner if someone enters a channel and asks "May I ask a question?" or "Can anyone help me?". Although that may be polite in normal human interaction it does not work that way on IRC. You are supposed to just ask your question right away. [14:35] man I love crispy seaweed MMMMMMMM MMMMMM [14:35] well, the grill is the upmost part of your oven, right? (but yeah, in french, it's "under the grill", which means we all agree the british are wrong :) ) [14:35] I started using Windowmaker about 2 months ago, and now am switching back to KDE. Is there a way I can use KDE as my desktop environment and WMaker as my window manager? =\ [14:35] Rackattack: replace kwin [14:36] A little more detail please? >.> [14:36] lol [14:36] http://www.windowmaker.info/faq.php?chapter=7 [14:37] smallgoat__ (n=andy@host86-166-154-172.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:37] Rackattack: kwin is the window manager of kde [14:37] replace it with wm [14:37] I would, but I can't find wmaker in my sys. prefserences. [14:38] millennia (n=millenni@c-98-217-138-62.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Rackattack: have you considered asking in #kde? [14:38] aw MAN these burgers are awesome! [14:38] All I get is kwin and compiz. [14:38] Pabl0Escobar (n=Pabl0Esc@foresight/developer/pablo-esc) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [14:38] hm... lemme try that room... [14:39] wow! this prime rib is so scruptious it makes me feel like i am King Henrey the eighth [14:39] heh, best prime rib i ever had was at a french restaurant [14:39] and steak. [14:39] Zordrak: jealous [14:40] i had a whole rack of ribs at outback jacks a while back [14:40] best. thing. ever. oh god the sauce... [14:40] ribs are the greatest thing one earth [14:40] proper 100% beef, proper real cheese [14:40] reasons never to go to blahmerica [14:40] i'm gonn eat a turkey today [14:40] gonna* [14:41] jeev: i dunno, boobs legs butt ribs, its a tough choice [14:41] all 4. [14:41] Zordrak: correct. because the only burgers in 'blahmerica' are in mcdonald's. [14:41] turkey is awesome either deep fried or smoked for a day [14:41] deco, what a coincidence.. i know a lot of people who will ea turkey toda too! [14:41] jeev: have you not had an aberdeen angus grass-fed sirloin steak? [14:41] eat turkey today [14:41] nope Zordrak [14:41] jeev: :o damn [14:42] jeev: THATs why you are misinformerd about the greatest thing (or at least meat) on earth [14:42] i make my own hamburgers [14:42] Zordrak: wait, you said "real cheese"? you moved off from the islands? :P [14:42] and in terms of fast food wendys has the ebst burgers [14:43] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:43] Real as opposed to French Ponce Cheese, Bacterial Colony Cheese (blue) or American Imitation Cheese [14:43] and thae fact that Imitation Cheese even exists makes me want to vomit [14:44] how is it called? [14:44] I like monterey jack myself [14:45] man there's a program on in the uk at the mo about all shit food. Its fucking disgusting !! 47% meat in burgers and half of that is beef heart [14:45] gouda anyone [14:45] Worst thing is sausages.. lots of people LOVE richmond sausages.. not realising they *literally* have the minimum amount of actual meat the law allows to still call them sausages [14:45] Action: Zordrak buys 97% sausages only [14:45] well.. 97%+ [14:46] drgr33n: which program is that? [14:46] but the ones i buy atm are 97% [14:46] i make my own hotdogs [14:46] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: "adios" [14:46] Zordrak: but what is the name of your cheese? :P [14:46] mine here right now is a cheddar [14:46] ohh yeah. cheddar. that's something you really can't find in 'blahmerica' [14:47] I expected it a bit, isn't that completely tasteless? [14:47] i couldnt take it anymore, i jsut lit the bbq [14:47] i am making ham and cheese on bread [14:47] Camarade_Tux: id h [14:47] melting the cheese onto it in the microwave [14:47] grilled ham and cheese rocks [14:47] Camarade_Tux: id have monterey jack.. but on burgers a mild cheddar is a sweet topping [14:48] molinero (n=molinero@187.140.49.142) left irc: "Saliendo" [14:48] haha you lot are all food mad :D bet you all American hahaha kidding :D [14:48] sometimes mild cheddar is the *right* choice [14:48] drgr33n: not really [14:48] sometimes you need something special [14:48] <-- canadian [14:48] havarti is good [14:48] failure #1: the toaster i used to defrost the bread was on crumpet setting [14:48] failure #2: the cheese went EVERYWHERE [14:48] lol [14:49] comté : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Meule_de_Comt%C3%A9_-_photo_CRT_CIGC.jpg /OR/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Comte_%28cheese%29.jpg [14:49] mild cheddar adds a creamy texture to the burger without tainting the gorgeousness of the meat with its own flavour [14:49] Zordrak: way over thinking this [14:49] hahaha Zordrak you love it !! [14:49] r_linux (n=r_linux@189.38.220.35) left irc: "lalala caindo fora!" [14:49] Zordrak: btw, one cheese you definately want to avoid is 'stinking bishop' [14:49] you going to make love to those burgers ?? [14:49] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-114-196.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [14:49] Action: Zordrak is a meat connoisseur [14:49] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:50] drgr33n: theyre gone already [14:50] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [14:50] theyll be in the bog soon enough :) [14:50] Zordrak: in more ways than one [14:50] lotec (n=lotec@71.180.225.52) left irc: "And Punt" [14:50] hmm.. new window at the end of the stack in /16 [14:51] bah its drgr33n [14:51] songohan (n=songohan@ALyon-553-1-175-204.w92-157.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:52] aw nips... need to plug the bitch in... need a new battery really [14:52] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [14:53] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [14:53] whats everyone thinking of slackware 13 then ?? [14:53] Elektro (n=elektr0@34.85-84-204.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:53] too many noobs in here because of it [14:53] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] lol [14:53] spook: be welcoming :P [14:53] Camarade_Tux: i tried that. [14:53] gave up pretty quickly [14:54] hehe ^^ [14:54] I wish it installed correctly for me. I'm not a nix noob, just new to linux [14:54] awffs.. who put the bloody fridge all the way downstairs [14:54] im out of beer [14:54] lol. [14:54] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-197-247.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:55] at least im only one floor up so far [14:55] im off upstairs once ive been down t'frisge [14:55] 3 floors? [14:55] why wont it install correctly ?? [14:56] aye [14:56] i only have 1 floor! [14:56] aw [14:56] I think it's a smp problem [14:56] garme (n=garme@201008253169.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [14:56] macavity: I checked the noobfarm archives and found: "< edman007> macavity, you can't have my meat " :) [14:56] millennia: what makes you say that? [14:56] moved here from a 2up 2down 6 months ago [14:57] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-195.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:57] what does 2 up 2 down even mean [14:57] a lot of required packages say they're getting installed, but they never make it as far as the hdd [14:57] now i have 3down, 2 middle, 4 up :) [14:57] hahaha you can have my meat !! :D [14:57] and finally enough space to store my stuff AND have an office [14:57] then when it comes to the first step of config, the kernel, that segfaults [14:57] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-195.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [14:57] Action: drgr33n dogs just pissed everywhere :( [14:58] drgr33n: har har [14:58] We really don't care [14:58] millennia: does that happen on a clean install, or it worked for some time and then broke? [14:58] on a clean install [14:58] god damn you rockstar!!! TV advert for Liberty City Stories... which'll be XBOX only for liek a god damn YEAR [14:59] screw you! [14:59] millennia: then you either have a corrupt install, or buggy memory [14:59] ananke: been dow n that earlier [14:59] Does anyone know how to upgrade from KDE 4.2.2 to 4.3.3 on Slackware 13? [14:59] mem tested, install seems ok [14:59] millennia: you don't happen to overclock your cpu? [15:00] Rackattack: upgrade to -current [15:00] can someone explain what 2 up 2 down means? [15:00] its a term for a small house with two rooms upstairs and two downstairs [15:00] no, can't o/c, the board has no control for fsb or multiplier [15:00] ooooh. [15:00] we cant talk about zero, spook. the first rule forbids it. [15:00] how do I put that in a terminal? [15:01] Rackattack: change your slackpkg mirrors file [15:01] Rackattack: links http://lmgtfy.com/?q=slackware-current [15:01] the smp part of the kern prints a warning about the 2'nd cpu not having the same mtrr settings [15:01] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "leaving" [15:02] Aw.. slackpkg? I still can't get how to work that program >.> [15:02] Rackattack: WTF? [15:02] slackpkg is easier than Windows freaking Update! [15:03] this guy *definatly* shouldn't be running -current. [15:03] I've set up a mirror for slackpkg. But slackpkg won't find squat... [15:03] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [15:03] chopp: ++ [15:03] slackpkg update; slackpkg upgrade-all [15:03] chopp: ++++ [15:03] Rackattack: grep -v '^#' /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [15:03] 20:03:23 < spook> slackpkg update; slackpkg upgrade-all; slackpkg install-new [15:04] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-195.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:05] ive sent a feature request to Piter to add a make-current that effectively aliases upgrade-all and install-new, but have had no reply [15:05] Eh... what folder has my mirrors list again? [15:05] uhh /etc/slackpkg? [15:05] Rackattack: man slackpkg [15:06] what's the chance of having a corrupt cd with an ok md5? [15:06] millennia: minuscule [15:06] millennia: odd are your optical drive is wonky. [15:06] garme (n=garme@201008253169.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [15:06] stillbor1 (n=stillbor@romeo-16.srv.hosting.fi) left ##slackware. [15:07] millennia: put the ISO on the disk.. md5 check it, then loop mount it and install from it.. then you can be *sure* [15:07] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-195.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [15:07] Rackattack: why the hell do you want to run -current .. [15:07] Action: BP{k} sighs and mooches off for dinner. [15:07] millennia: impossible odds. [15:07] Rackattack: he wants kde 4.3.3 [15:07] why ?? your not missing much lol [15:08] aye [15:08] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-195.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:08] zordak, I did diff the disc from the iso, just was curious if the iso could have been wrong but still have a good md5, but I guess it's not that [15:08] a few extra widgits and bugs :D [15:09] just wondering.. can you specify process affinity? i.e to force the install process to only use processor1? [15:09] not something ive ever looked into [15:09] *LIGTHBULB MOMENT* [15:09] just use huge.s [15:09] TWAT!!! [15:09] the smp faq said no [15:09] that was my ligthbulb moment [15:09] how dare you steal it [15:09] lol [15:11] just out of curiosity what processor and what arch you trying to install ?? [15:11] twin-pIII 32bit.. where were you earlier? [15:11] cleaning up dog piss [15:11] lol [15:11] alkos333 (n=alkos333@adsl-75-57-68-32.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Connection timed out [15:12] I did try huge.s once, it did the same thing [15:13] millennia: in which case it cant be an smp issue [15:13] then I'm out of ideas [15:14] millennia: LIKE I SAID EARLIER IT SMELLS OF HARDWARE [15:14] whoops [15:14] sorry [15:14] did you post the exact error output ?? I'm looking but not finding ?? [15:14] just not sure what hardware [15:14] debian installs ok, however while they haven't completely lost their unix roots, they're trying awefully hard to hide them [15:15] its a long shot.. but how sure are you of the HDD? [15:15] and how long did you leave the memtest going? [15:15] alkos333 (n=alkos333@adsl-75-57-68-32.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:15] but then... [15:15] lol something funny just happened funny/sad [15:15] it doesnt make sensse that it errors out in the same way every time [15:15] which smells like install media [15:15] but you MD5d it [15:15] it was the same hdd that installed debian ok. If I liked debian, I'd be alright right now [15:16] guy stole a piece of meat from a store [15:16] he his family waiting in the car for him [15:16] left the memtest running for an hour or so, a few passes [15:16] s/his/had [15:16] if it were my system.. id put the ISO on the disk just to *absolutely* rule out the whole IDE/ATA subsystem and all the hardware below it [15:16] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: [15:16] akshually.. the HDD is IDE cause its PIII so it wont rule it all out [15:16] but at least the CD part [15:17] it's a scsi system [15:17] use nbd and netinstall [15:17] that will rule it out [15:17] nbd is a little extreme donchathink? [15:17] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.110.16) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:17] steiger (n=steiger@189.105.79.85) joined ##slackware. [15:18] nbd \o/ [15:18] lol [15:18] spmd (i=loli@CAcert/Assurer/spymod) joined ##slackware. [15:18] millennia: you have to rule out everything one by one.. its the only true way at this point. Rule out the CD, rule out the drive.. then swap the RAM and rule that out, swap the HDD, rule that out.. [15:18] he, gotta love it ^^ [15:18] hopefully you will find the culprit befoire having to rule out the processors :) [15:19] rule out the person installing it :P [15:19] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [15:19] can't swap the memory, don't have any spares :( [15:19] millennia: then rule out every thing you *can* [15:19] starting witht he install media [15:19] memtest [15:19] I did memtest [15:19] XGizzmo: way to fail [15:20] redtricyc (n=irchon@166.205.132.104) joined ##slackware. [15:20] beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer bee [15:20] ... [15:20] beer? [15:20] fail [15:20] addictive [15:20] Zordrak: i agree. [15:20] ccfreak2k_ (n=ccfreak2@71.94.19.34) joined ##slackware. [15:21] ok, I'll go try to eliminate things [15:21] Is there a simple/recommended way to install a secondary compiler for a different target machine? [15:21] I wish the iPhone had a persistant IRC app [15:21] redtricyc: it's called PuTTTY [15:21] er [15:21] PuTTY [15:21] redtricyc, I'm told it's because it doesn't have multitasking [15:21] thats what i use on my phone [15:21] i ssh in to my home box and attach to the screen that runs irssi [15:22] redtricyc: its called ssh + screen [15:22] and you putty into your server? [15:22] ^ [15:22] thats what i do [15:22] Maybe I can use a jail. [15:22] on my iphone [15:22] oh, let me find it, do you have to jailbreak your iPhone? [15:22] millennia (n=millenni@c-98-217-138-62.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:22] no [15:22] no. [15:22] lol [15:22] although I dont have a CockPhone... I have a REAL phone.. a Nokia E90 [15:23] okay, I'll have to log off and look around [15:23] has a \ | key [15:23] \o/ [15:23] ccfreak2k_: I put it in /opt [15:23] redtricyc (n=irchon@166.205.132.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:23] all bow down to the \ | key [15:23] I think I've got slackpkg set up =\ Exactly what am I able to download/install with it? [15:23] pprkut, it's a pretty complete chain. It's not just the compiler really; it's also some libraries and header files and what-not. [15:23] Rackattack: official slackware packages [15:24] Any games? [15:24] Rackattack: includingn patches and new release versions [15:24] Rackattack: sbopkg [15:24] Rackattack: http://slackbuilds.org [15:24] Rackattack: http://sbopkg.org [15:24] ccfreak2k_: we have a cross-compiler on SBo. Maybe take a look? I don't know exactly what it does how [15:26] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:26] pprkut, the one I'm using isn't in sbo. [15:26] Oh, you mean look at the buildscript. [15:26] yes [15:26] Have the name? [15:26] avr-* [15:27] avr-gcc? [15:27] Or is avr-* the whole collection? [15:27] there is avr-gcc, avr-binutils, avr-libc, etc [15:27] Anyone seen "Up"? All ive heard is it's the dog's nads.. but the trailers dont make me wanna watch it [15:29] Zordrak, no it was excellent. [15:30] then they need to fire whoever made the trailer [15:31] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:31] Zordrak, i disagree. [15:32] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:32] i really need to upgrade my main home server.. still on 12.1 [15:33] Zordrak, does it still work? [15:33] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [15:33] bien sur [15:33] Zordrak: mine too. [15:34] my mythtv/ massive array machine is -current [15:34] but then i also need to upgrade postfix and migrate from courier to dovecot [15:34] Mr_M4g1c (i=01@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) joined ##slackware. [15:34] i just cba with the pressure cos i dont have a backup mx [15:35] steiger_ (n=steiger@189.105.79.85) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:35] pprkut, am I right in thinking that avr-gcc installs to the same place i386 gcc does? [15:35] Rackattack (n=eric@adsl-074-170-000-007.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:35] I think so, yes [15:35] Zordrak: i can be your backup, or just use google. [15:36] It looks like it from the script, anyway. [15:36] Copies done to $PKG/bin/whatever [15:36] Mr_M4g1c (i=01@78-59-112-79.static.zebra.lt) left irc: Client Quit [15:36] spook: i could set up a backup pretty quick.. i have sole access to a co-lo server in a major data centre... i just cant be arsed with the hassle [15:37] i need some kind of real reason to make me get my finger out and do it [15:37] chasmo77 (n=chas@69.4.142.4) joined ##slackware. [15:37] thing is i dont even need the backup MX.. but i kinda wanna put one in before i upgrade just in case [15:38] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-155-76.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:38] uhhhh [15:38] Does the bash profile thingy by default add ~/bin or whatever? [15:38] Kamel (n=1@c-66-177-36-4.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] no [15:39] Zordrak: do it you lazy sod. [15:39] It seems like it would be best to put the tools on my own home directory, since I would be the only user using them on this system. [15:40] Rackattack (n=root@adsl-074-170-000-007.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:40] Rackattack kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: unixfool: Using an IRC client as root is very dangerous. Please create a user account and return to the channel under it. [15:41] pprkut, can the avr toolchain buildscripts be modified for x86 x86_64 cross compiling? [15:41] hahaha [15:41] spook: i dont have the "just in case" time [15:41] mgm (n=milaneza@200.206.141.46) left irc: [15:41] if only i hadnt used fscking courier imap [15:41] can't icecream cross compile [15:41] I think it can [15:41] whats courier imap? [15:42] XGizzmo, not immediately. You have to build the toolchain if i recall. I haven't looked at it lately but i failed at it a few months ago [15:43] now for a hot cup of coffee with a shotglass full of kahlua in it [15:44] songohan (n=songohan@ALyon-553-1-175-204.w92-157.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:44] OReery (n=ORERRY@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:44] spook: was that amjoke? [15:45] or am i gonna have to go get my last beer? [15:45] Zordrak: i dont actually know what it is [15:45] OReery (n=ORERRY@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:45] hiptobecubic: I have a i486_x86_64-cross-compile package for icecream ready, if you want it. Binary though [15:46] pprkut, as in runs on i486 and compiles for x86_64? sure [15:46] pprkut, no build script? [15:46] nah, I have some sort of a script for the individual components, but the final composition I did by hand [15:48] what about dependencies? apps/files on pprkut might not be present on hiptobecubic's pc [15:48] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) joined ##slackware. [15:49] Pig_Pen, we'll handle that when we get there [15:49] spook: it's a POP3/IMAP implementation like uw-imap, dovecot etc [15:49] Pig_Pen: tose packages are meant to be self-contained chroot environments [15:49] dont know what any of that is [15:49] is pop like poptarts? i like pop tarts [15:49] i have come to the realisation that dovecot pwns all other pop3/imap servers.. but i didnt realise until it was too late and i had already had my own server running Courier for some time [15:50] |Cyb3rGh0st| (n=user@84.19.169.252) left irc: Connection timed out [15:50] spook: how drunk are you? [15:50] hiptobecubic: http://www.liwjatan.at/files/icecc-packages/ [15:50] just tired. [15:50] O_o [15:50] pprkut, thanks [15:50] sooo.. um yeah.. pop3 & imap as in e-mail.. [15:50] np [15:51] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.79.179) joined ##slackware. [15:51] the ways you get e-mail after the MTA has dropped it in a local storage for you [15:51] Zordrak: the last bit was a troll, i need to research dovecot [15:51] okeypoke [15:52] dovecot, thunderbird, IMAP & Maildir dont get on too well unless you make some tweaks to thunderbird... but dovecot is definitely the dogs bollocks of pop3/imap servers [15:52] beatzz (n=beatzz@72-48-68-43.dyn.grandenetworks.net) joined ##slackware. [15:52] am i under the correct impression? [15:52] swat -s /etc/samba/smb.conf [15:52] then http://localhost:901/ [15:52] ? [15:53] because for the life of me, i cannot get samba to work. [15:53] swat ftl [15:53] hiptobecubic: this is what I use to configure icecream for it: export ICECC_VERSION="$ICECC_PACKAGES/slackware-x86_64-native.tar.gz,i486:$ICECC_PACKAGES/slackware-i486-x86_64-cross.tar.gz,i686:$ICECC_PACKAGES/slackware-i486-x86_64-cross.tar.gz" [15:53] $ICECC_PACKAGES is the location of the tarballs [15:54] dude ive been boggled by smb for like 5 years [15:54] how in the hell do u get it to work [15:54] pprkut, interesting. ok thanks [15:54] sun is coming up. [15:54] awww MAN.. now im two floors away from my last bee [15:54] r [15:54] Zordrak: hahaha [15:54] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-51-195.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:55] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-77-176.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:55] pprkut: what do you need to bribe you into approving drbd? [15:55] time [15:55] :) f'nuff [15:55] pprkut: how about booze. [15:56] NEAOW! Nevar gettin mah boooze [15:56] haha [15:56] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-77-176.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [15:56] Action: Zordrak goez to get hiz lazt booze from the friggin frijj [15:56] spook, do u know how to get samba to work? [15:56] so i can view Windows machines on a network? [15:56] + their shares [15:56] beatzz: yes [15:57] beatzz: I'm going to say right now before anyone else does RTFM [15:57] i HAVE [15:57] heh [15:57] i have read man swat, man smb.conf [15:57] Good, step 1 complete. Have you used swat to configure it yet? [15:57] i run # swat -s /etc/samba/smb.conf [15:57] it dose nothing [15:58] i try going to localhost:901 like it says [15:58] but i get nothing [15:58] Action: Zordrak wants a firemans pole and two stannah stairlifts for christmas [15:58] i changed /etc/samba/smb.conf-sample to smb.conf [15:59] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-22-168.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:59] then chmod 755 /etc/rc.d/rc.samba [15:59] then /etc/rc.d/smbd start [15:59] hold on, I just re-read whta you're saying [15:59] following a tutorial on line [15:59] beatzz: you want to browse not share.. so you barely need anything in the samba conf [15:59] beatzz are you trying to access windows shares from a linux box or the other way around? [15:59] You want to see shares, not shar efiles? [15:59] see shares, and hopefully share as well [16:00] but seeing shares would be a start [16:00] mount //windows/share /mnt/winblows [16:00] Sharing is handled by Samba, seeing shares should be straightforward as cmk_zzz says [16:00] Or via GUI in kde4 [16:00] but thats a negitive eviljames [16:00] man smbclient [16:00] i was just at a windows network [16:00] mount -t cifs -o username=STUPID_WINDOWS\\USERNAME,password=STUPIDWINDOWSPASSWORD //stupidwindowsserver/stupidwindowsshare /mountpoint [16:00] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.132.223) left irc: "Leaving." [16:02] hahahahaha [16:02] dont you mean /stupidmountpointforstupidwindowsshare [16:02] The-Croupier (n=agapi@79.103.5.215.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:02] no.. mountpoints are linux and hence unstupids [16:04] why is the sun up [16:04] cos youre in the wrong country :) [16:04] Action: Zordrak sxt [16:04] sxt? [16:05] Action: Zordrak stares at the bubbles in his beer [16:05] Action: eviljames spills the beer [16:05] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:05] thta's what you get for evoking my jealousy [16:06] yeah.. as IF im letting you NEAR my last beer [16:06] Zordrak: drink it [16:06] QUICK THERES NOT MUCH TIME LEFT [16:06] savouring [16:06] only had 4 [16:06] last one [16:07] The-Croupier (n=agapi@79.103.5.215.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left ##slackware. [16:07] Quick refresher: is there a seperate env var for path(s) to headers and object files? [16:07] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [16:08] greetings [16:10] The-Croupier: way to silence the place [16:10] good job. [16:11] Zordrak: works every time ;) [16:11] i bet some of them think im an op or somthing ;) lol [16:11] um... no [16:11] :) [16:11] ;) [16:11] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.111.199) joined ##slackware. [16:11] i should be op. [16:11] spook: i shouldnt ;) [16:11] i'm running for club president next year. [16:12] spook: op, Zordrak: oper [16:12] i should win. [16:12] Zordrak: yes. very yes [16:12] spook: ill vote for you ;) [16:12] then you can kline quiznos and straterror [16:12] The-Croupier: thanks but you're not a cssc member. [16:13] The-Croupier: wait, now you are ^_^ [16:13] spook: instant lifetime ban for twaterror is the only reason anyone should ever get ops [16:13] yup. [16:14] Zordrak: or when ppl are being really bad and annoying everybody ;) then someone should kick them ;) no offense slackboy [16:14] just wish he'd have pushed it the other day.. bob was SO close to twatting him [16:14] spook: cssc?! you know im bad with terminology :( dont cut words for me ;) [16:15] The-Croupier: computer science students club, at university of western australia [16:15] spook: can you make me member? [16:15] ;) that would be nice ;) [16:15] The-Croupier: as VP i just made you a member by writing on a piece of paper: LIST OF NEW CSSC MEMBERS and your name [16:16] Rackattack (n=eric@adsl-074-170-000-007.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] Zordrak: you're a member too now. [16:16] spook: you dont know my name ;) [16:16] :p [16:16] The-Croupier: doesnt matter, everyone has nicknames [16:16] spook: lol ;) [16:16] What does sbopkg do, exactly? I've got it set up, and am confused >.> [16:16] actually /whois shows my full name ;) [16:17] Rackattack: READ. THE. DOCU. MENT. TATION. [16:17] Rackattack: check slackbuilds.org ;) [16:17] and what spook ^^ said [16:18] Rackattack: seriously.. RTFM [16:18] spook: i think it should be read. the. f* doc*.ment.twation [16:18] hehehehe twat [16:18] spook: ;) [16:19] for i in $(find docs); do read $i | fucking; done [16:19] Rackattack: http://sweet.nodns4.us/ [16:19] btdt [16:19] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [16:19] -bash: fucking: command not found [16:20] BP{k}: i did that ages ago [16:20] dont think he read it [16:20] Action: Zordrak has finished his last beer [16:20] john_dee (n=id@95.29.146.226) joined ##slackware. [16:20] spook: there is power in repition. Has anyone suggested windows ME as a suitable replacement OS for Rackattack ? [16:20] shop is still open but the zordmeister is totally in bed [16:21] john_dee (n=id@95.29.146.226) left ##slackware. [16:21] Windoze? ROFL! [16:21] omg.. [16:22] BP{k} ^^ [16:22] the teacher/politician that's "down with the kids" [16:22] BP{k}: not yet [16:22] OReery (n=ORERRY@cpe-174-101-199-63.cinci.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:23] Action: Zordrak get t'missus on the phone cause she's sorely missed [16:23] Zordrak: awww. [16:23] john_dee (n=id@95.29.146.226) joined ##slackware. [16:23] BP{k}: from all that he liked the word windoze..;) nice ;) [16:24] why did i stay up till 5:30am [16:24] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:24] i think we should have an age minimum in this channel ;) [16:24] spook: cos you know you can ;) [16:24] and cos you know we are worth it ;) [16:24] The-Croupier: yes. [16:24] and yes [16:24] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [16:24] please dont cum [16:24] Action: The-Croupier hides [16:25] spook: people hate us.. 6 years and we're still inseperable and hatefully happy [16:25] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [16:25] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:25] Zordrak: who hates who [16:25] me'n't'missus :) [16:25] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:26] browsing sbopkg was that easy? o_O *slaps self* [16:26] ah ok [16:26] Zordrak: thanks for rubbing that in :) [16:26] :) [16:26] ChArLoK_16 (n=Abdurrah@188.247.9.32) joined ##slackware. [16:27] uva (i=bno@118-160-165-24.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [16:27] i'm going to sleep [16:27] ohnoez [16:27] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:27] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:27] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:27] what? [16:27] what [16:27] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.254.50) joined ##slackware. [16:27] ? [16:27] what? [16:27] spook: what? [16:28] eviljames: dont be evil [16:28] WHAT? [16:28] I think I read somewhere that GOOG did something that wasn't evil [16:28] They put the entire internet on ignore [16:28] The-Croupier: but unfortunately, it is not in my nature to change my nature. [16:28] combo breaker. [16:28] hey straterra ;) how are you ? [16:29] ohnoez [16:29] I'm ok..you? [16:29] not bad... [16:29] Waiting on some family to come over [16:29] straterra: what are you doing here [16:29] you're not even a slackware user [16:29] spook: Well..my mom had sex with my dad.. [16:29] Action: Camarade_Tux slaps Rackattack :) [16:29] Some sperm attacked an egg, it grew..it was pushed out of a vagina..and here i am [16:30] spook: t'missus is playin pool 'parrantly [16:30] How about you? [16:30] please, dont talk about Jim. [16:30] Zordrak: why isnt she home with you [16:30] (She's gay) [16:30] she stops at uni one night a week [16:31] its over an hours commute.. so its worth stopping once a week when there's a late finish and an early start [16:31] jg71: Jim? [16:31] spook: What are you doing here? [16:31] straterra: i actually use slackware. [16:31] unlike you [16:31] Zordrak, you missed it? damn. what a shame. [16:32] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-46-129.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [16:32] O_O [16:32] I use Slackware [16:32] straterra: no you use windows [16:32] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:32] I use multiple OSs [16:32] Like a sane person [16:33] spook: i knew it ;) [16:33] Zordrak, http://pics.cheggit.nl/pics/2007/08/18/456-sheepjimgay2cd490dc802tw.jpg and please stay on topic after clicking. thanks. [16:33] jg71: sfw? [16:33] Most people on the planet use Windows. Get over it. [16:33] straterra: ++ [16:33] i dont. [16:33] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-46-129.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:33] eviljames, nope [16:33] eviljames: he LIKES to use windows [16:33] jg71: fyi.. should NSFW [16:33] im at home, but others arent [16:33] Most people on the planet like to use Windows. Get over it. [16:33] jg71: ^^ [16:34] There, adjusted [16:34] yeah. well. dont mind me then. [16:34] should i get dressed and go buy more beer? [16:35] dont forget pizza [16:35] tempted [16:35] beer yes, dressed no [16:35] yep...if you send me some too ;) [16:35] thats safe for work, i bet :) [16:35] hm. same Q here.... [16:35] plutonium (n=plutoniu@80.85.119.109) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:35] fuck it. maybe ill just have some toast [16:36] Zordrak: night dude [16:36] night [16:36] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.254.50) left irc: Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) [16:36] both my legs went pins and needles.... i wanna go 2 d toilet... damn... [16:36] john_dee (n=id@95.29.146.226) left ##slackware. [16:36] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:36] I already bought all the woodchuck I'm going to need. [16:36] Action: Zordrak has a toilet only a few feet from his bed :) [16:36] spook: Any more attacks or can I safely leave the keyboard? [16:36] same here [16:37] because apparantly having an ensuite makes a house worth more.. theres three toilets, but only two of us [16:37] but at least we can both crap on the same floor :D [16:37] Chinese people crap on the floor [16:37] otherwise id just drain and tap-off one of them [16:39] Strike-GR (n=kostas@79.107.182.87) joined ##slackware. [16:40] hello guys! [16:40] what's up [16:40] the sky [16:40] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-435764.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:41] i am sleeping every day only 4-5 hours. i am trying to learn slackware! [16:41] i love it [16:41] Sounds like a problem [16:41] why? [16:41] lol [16:42] Not sure any OS is worth losing tons of sleep over o.O [16:42] tons of sleep? sounds like 1 or 2 hrs he is losing [16:42] Then the word 'only' shouldn't have been used o.O [16:42] how many hours can you sleep in one day [16:42] 8 [16:42] I know people that sleep over 10 [16:42] uhg [16:42] sloths [16:43] s/sloths/women/g [16:43] i dont care if i lose time from my sleep! iam learning very useful and interesting things and i am very happy abou that! [16:43] about* [16:48] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009020058.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:49] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [16:49] Strike-GR (n=kostas@79.107.182.87) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:50] _sombriks_ (n=sombriks@201009020058.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:50] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009020058.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [16:50] _sombriks_ (n=sombriks@201009020058.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [16:50] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009020058.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [16:52] lol thats dedication for you !! [16:54] man why did I want to do spanish as part of my degree :( damm you free choice !!! [16:57] Action: hiptobecubic did french [16:58] Action: drgr33n wish I chose french :( [16:58] why ? [16:59] Action: eviljames is doing french [16:59] Action: eviljames humps cam [16:59] err... [16:59] god damn apache and its opaque permission errors [16:59] because I find it easier to pick up [16:59] drgr33n, hah [17:00] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [17:00] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: Client Quit [17:00] hiptobecubic: good :) [17:00] eviljames: good too :) [17:00] Camarade_Tux: i stopped learning french [17:00] had no use for it [17:00] deco, bad [17:00] deco: bad -_- [17:00] hiptobecubic: i already know spanish [17:00] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [17:00] i did French Year One three times because of moving schools to different types of schools [17:00] merde ! :( [17:01] hahaha merde indeed [17:01] deco, are you implying that knowing spanish makes knowing french useless? that's silly [17:01] drgr33n: seems you know the basis :) [17:01] hiptobecubic: no , i'm implying that 2 languages is enough for me [17:01] spanish is better, chinise is for the future. French is almost as useless as german. [17:01] Camarade_Tux, s/the basis/everything/ [17:02] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-52-185.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:02] cmk_zzz, ha. try "french is one of the internationally accepted languages of travel and business and spanish is not." [17:02] french is needed for any government job in canada [17:02] hiptobecubic: there are a lot more foul words to learn, example: "putain de bordel de merde de chiottes de putain de mes deux" :-) [17:02] callis [17:02] Camarade_Tux, you forgot salope! [17:02] see ya guys [17:02] man I've only just started my Spanish course what was I thinking I can hardly speak English lol [17:02] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-231-251.33-151.iol.it) left ##slackware ("WeeChat 0.3.0"). [17:02] hiptobecubic: right, I fail =/ [17:03] drgr33n: where are you from ? [17:03] ffs.. why dont i have permission apache you bitch.. the user has permission, the scriptalias is in place, wtf [17:03] paissad-hp (n=paissad@89.87.195.22) left irc: Connection timed out [17:03] drgr33n, naw. Just make sure you talk to some native spanish-speakers and not just academics. I learned more in one summer in france than i did in six years of school [17:04] hiptobecubic: well, from my experience I'd have more use of spanish than french. Business and travel. Yeah.. but in the real world? Eastern Canada, France, and some pacific islands don't really cut it for me [17:04] cmk_zzz: ++ [17:04] Zordrak, you setting up user directories ? [17:04] no.. just nagios [17:04] it seems like by talking on here I just throw petrol onto the fire hahaha !!! [17:04] hiptobecubic: trips are definitely the best way to learn [17:05] is nagio a user ? [17:05] nagios has /cgi-bin aliased to /usr/sbin/nagios [17:05] ooohh [17:05] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:05] i knopw what it bloody uis [17:05] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:05] apache needs to be in the nagios gro [17:05] groiup [17:05] and i need more beers [17:05] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:06] woo [17:06] woikun [17:07] deco, you hou [17:07] :p [17:07] fredoslack: hey :D [17:07] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Camarade_Tux, oléééé [17:07] salut fredoslack [17:07] hi eviljames [17:07] =) [17:08] man who the hell is getting off on computer generated porn? [17:08] yoyo fredoslack :) [17:08] Zordrak: I am, why? :) [17:08] Camarade_Tux: freak [17:08] Camarade_Tux: go back to the moon [17:08] Zordrak: actually, I'm not but I wanted to answer that ^^ [17:09] aint that got a name errr hentinal [17:10] macavity_ (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:15] plutonium (n=plutoniu@80.85.119.109) joined ##slackware. [17:16] xjkx (n=secret@unaffiliated/xjkx) left irc: Connection timed out [17:17] pprkut, which avr package would deal with make? [17:17] I think my make is calling local gcc instead of the cross gcc. [17:17] isn't your cross gcc prefixed? [17:18] It is. [17:18] But the makefile doesn't explicitly reference the prefix. [17:18] The actual build lines are @make and the like. [17:19] It wasn't a problem on my Windows box because I use msys on it, but now there's two. [17:20] edit the makefile then, it should definitely clal blabla-foofoo-moomoo-gcc, not just gcc [17:20] configure should handle it [17:20] if there is one of course :) [17:20] No "gcc" anywhere in the makefile. [17:20] what then? [17:21] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-22-168.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [17:22] environment vars? make CC=mygcc [17:22] I think that's how the kernel does it [17:22] http://pastebin.ca/1688725 [17:23] you could temporarily re-link /usr/bin/cc somewhere [17:23] iirc make lokos for cc before gcc [17:23] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:23] ccfreak2k_: icecream does it with symlinks. Basically, create /opt/cross/bin/gcc which links to your cross compiler and do export PATH=/opt/cross/bin:$PATH [17:23] eviljames: hmmm, dirty? [17:23] Camarade_Tux: quite dirty [17:23] ouch, that's pretty dirty too :o [17:24] s/quite/terribly/ :) [17:24] It really shouldn't be a problem. I have at least one project with a makefile that has the proper prefix. [17:24] Which is good, because the prefix changed recently. [17:25] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.90.53) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:25] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [17:25] Zoubidda1a (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:25] hiptobecubic^ (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:25] lotec (n=lotec@pool-71-180-225-52.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "And Punt" [17:26] anyway, good night :) [17:26] gutts (n=gutts@ALyon-252-1-21-179.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:27] Tis a sad day my friends!!! [17:27] xjk1 (n=secret@201008241045.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:27] mininova.org is gone! [17:28] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.192.174) joined ##slackware. [17:30] just use isohunt [17:30] beatzz: isohunt, tpb, etc [17:30] tpb is also dead afaik [17:31] isohunt is Canadian, though.. our laws are different. [17:31] tpb is still around, although they have plans for the future. [17:32] Grah. [17:32] Everything is all fucked up with my cross compile "environment". [17:33] haha [17:34] gnubien (n=e@97.100.244.225) joined ##slackware. [17:34] are your laws sfw, eviljames ? [17:36] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-197-247.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:39] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [17:41] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!n=root@* expired. [17:41] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!n=root@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [17:41] ccfreak2k_: Why not use a virtual machine ? [17:42] Action: eviljames seconds the vm suggestion [17:44] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.23.50) joined ##slackware. [17:45] jg71: semi safe for work anyhow :P [17:45] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.23.168) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:45] ;) [17:45] so [17:46] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:46] to mount say, someones C:\Users\User_Name\Music\ [17:46] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.90.53) joined ##slackware. [17:46] I would do mount //C:\Users\User_Name\Music /mnt/Windows [17:46] ? [17:46] Is that what you would do in windows? [17:47] ie: Map Network Drive -> //C:\blah\ ? [17:47] i dont now, im askin u? [17:47] ..umm.. [17:47] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@81.57.177.108) joined ##slackware. [17:47] heh, typically the windows nomenclature is //[machine]/[share] [17:47] no in windows i think you would just C:\*... [17:47] Jeanlandim (n=JeanLand@201-67-104-26.bsaco701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[19:45] yeah, i mixed another coffee & kahlua [19:49] for you wife I assume [19:49] both :) [19:49] coffee + kahlua = teh win (that and Bailey's) [19:50] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-0-62.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:53] |Cyb3rGh0st| (n=user@84.19.169.252) left irc: Connection timed out [19:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn228.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:58] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:58] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:00] escaflown (n=elom@S0106001c23f8ea20.fm.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:02] yht (n=yht@125.161.49.237) joined ##slackware. [20:03] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.141.74) joined ##slackware. [20:03] How can I set the CPU Frequency Governor ala Slackware style? [20:04] Or, where can I set the userspace frequency governor at boot time :-P [20:04] ? [20:04] asarch, what do you mean slackware style? [20:05] Well, as you know, Slackware uses a combination of BSD and System V init style [20:05] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-165-129.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:05] Action: asarch thinks that the SlackBook should be very revised and upgrade it [20:05] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:06] oh ok [20:06] i get what you want [20:06] well you can do this: add a script that sets the governor you want, like this: [20:06] :-) [20:07] one CPU or two? [20:07] Two [20:07] SCG1="/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" [20:07] SCG2="/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" [20:09] bah here you go [20:09] http://pastebin.com/d1c96500c [20:10] What is the name of the script? [20:10] call it whatever you want. i was thinking /etc/rc.d/rc.cpufreq [20:10] pat's script should do this by default on 13 [20:10] Ok [20:10] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) left irc: "Leaving" [20:11] i don't like pat's script. to me it's not wise to try loading modules in a list to see which one happens to work [20:11] BTW, you have a bug on lines 3 and 4, both lines refer to the same core: CPU0 [20:11] roger [20:11] Scuzz (n=Scuzz@unaffiliated/scuzz) joined ##slackware. [20:12] Pat's script thrice`? [20:12] Where is it? [20:12] Is there any way to set this via KDE widget? [20:13] yes, his start-up script runs through the modprobe commands, and sets your governor appropriately [20:13] usually i cut out pat's script altogether because i either set the specific modules i want loaded and let /etc/acpi/acpi_handler.sh (that i created) handle what throttling mode i'm in, or i let the xfce power manager do it [20:14] Oh, I see [20:14] and that makes me wonder why patrick doesn't make the default cpufreq governor "ondemand" since that's usually the safe default and is also how almost every laptop with that feature comes configured out of the box by the factory. [20:16] his kernel config (at least slackware-generic-smp on slackware 13) makes userspace the default governor [20:17] BRB! (reboot time!) [20:17] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.141.74) left irc: "Leaving" [20:17] much less i would think that the safe default to use, instead of modprobing all the cpufreq modules (which could cause problems with krappy hardware, not pat's fault but still worth noting) would be to not have it modprobe anything and make you specify which module is yours [20:18] Showdown, huh? on my machine, ondemand is set [20:18] i said kernel config [20:18] oh, sorry [20:18] you can specify the default in the kernel config which negates needing a script in the first place [20:19] before there was that script i would just compile with default cpufreq governor set in kernel to ondemand and it worked without a problem [20:19] without a single script [20:20] and why there's that whole "modprobe this" "modprobe that" portion makes no sense since udev/hal/whatever seems to already know what my hardware is and loads the right module before that script starts [20:20] Nick change: macavity_ -> macavity [20:20] so i get dmesg complaints [20:20] er errors in dmesg [20:22] much less that's not an elegant "slackware-like" solution at all, nor is it "unix-like" [20:23] Is there a nice application for X which would allow me to shrink the actual size of my 19' LCD ? that is the total surface displayed would be like those of 15' ? [20:24] paul424: xrandr most likely [20:24] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-63.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: [20:25] does anyone use getmail and have the incoming messages processed by some address book to store contacts? [20:28] Naex (n=chatzill@69-196-150-148.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [20:29] ananke: are you sure, doesn't that application allow only on resolution change ? [20:29] ret (n=ret@74.78.42.190) joined ##slackware. [20:30] I don't suppose you guys would mind answering a rather noob question? [20:30] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:30] Naex: what's your question [20:30] Naex: yeah, go on. [20:30] Naex: don't ask to ask [20:31] Well I feel rather stupid about this =\ I'm trying to get onto the internet through a wired connection, I can connect to my router, but not further [20:31] Uh, if I'm on Windows and I use partition magic to partition, will that work? Or do I have to partition / format with the slack installer? [20:31] I ran netconfig and set it to DHCP, to no avail [20:31] paul424, are you jsut trying to shrink your resolution so everything is bigger ? [20:32] ret: just make the space available with partition magic [20:32] Naex: and your router is a modem/router connecting to the internet? [20:32] Okay. [20:32] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:32] Scuzz: no, I told you I want to have smaller screen diamiter. [20:32] Yeah, I'm on the router now, on my desktop [20:33] ret: and one more thing.. the slackware installer just dumps you in a shell to let you do the partitioning.. use cfdisk, and dont forget to set the right type on the swap [20:33] Okay. [20:33] godling (n=nobody@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [20:33] evilfourzero (n=nik@68-114-212-208.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:34] wheres all the i7 black friday deals!? :( [20:34] ret: personally i reccomend three partitions for workstations/laptops: /, /home and swap [20:34] hello [20:34] on laptops the swap should be the size of the RAM if you intend on doing suspend2disk [20:34] sIRC (n=sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:34] Naex: pastebin the following: /sbin/ifconfig /sbin/route -n and cat /etc/resolv.conf [20:34] on workstations, if they have like 2GB RAM you dont really need much swap [20:35] cmk_zzz: Alright, this is gonna take me a few minutes [20:36] macavity: can you run through the partition sizes real quick with me while I have the partitionmagic menu open? I know the swap is 1024MB because I have 512MB of ram (inb4 tee hee, it's an old comp) [20:36] but what should / and swap be? I know HOME is the remaining space or something [20:36] / will need to be at least 5GB if not more (i prefer 10GB myself) [20:37] /dev/cryptvg/slack 9.9G 6.9G 2.6G 73% / [20:37] ret: Showdown has it right.. i use 10GB for root too [20:37] okay. [20:37] Naex: I give you 30 seconds... go go go ! [20:38] unless it is really big disks.. then, just because i feel like being generous, i use 15GB :P [20:38] cmk_zzz: finding my usbkey now [20:38] Naex: take all the time you want [20:38] I use 74G for /home [20:38] :D [20:39] /dev/mapper/cryptvg-home [20:39] 176G 128G 40G 77% /home [20:39] if you're going to encrypt your harddrive you might want to think about putting /boot on a separate partition too [20:39] Showdown: That's bigger than my harddrive [20:39] Action: Showdown shrugs [20:39] heh [20:40] cmk_zzz: it's not copying to my key, this is odd, 1 more minute [20:43] cmk_zzz: http://pastebin.com/m5688723a [20:44] Naex: you have no entries in your resolv.conf file [20:44] yeah I noticed that [20:44] I was just about to mention, I thought netconfig would take that from my dhcp [20:46] add nameserver 192.168.1.1 to your /etc/resolve.conf [20:46] that should do it [20:48] bigpaws_ (n=bigpaws@clsm-209-74-35-82-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. 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[20:57] macavity (n=macavity@3403ds4-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:57] Naex: I'm sure you can configure your router (which I assume hands out IP addresses) to include the nameserver and dns search suffixes as well [20:58] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [20:59] cmk_zzz: I was thinking of trying that, but I have about 14 people on this network, and I don't want to mess them up [20:59] I got wicd running (thank god) now I'm gonna see if I can automate this all [20:59] What is the grep's option to show only the files with the pattern searched: find /etc -type f | grep pattern [21:00] -o [21:00] sorry that's only displays the actual pattern [21:03] asarch: Are you looking for a file-name or for a pattern in the files? [21:03] asarch, grep pattern file [21:04] asarch, or if you're (for example) searching within /home for it, grep -R pattern /home/* [21:04] I usually search for patterns in files in two ways: 1. find /etc -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep or simply grep -r /etc/* [21:04] or if slocate is working .... [21:08] Hey guys, how do I stop x? [21:08] Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (kills it) [21:09] ahh, danke [21:09] I'm hoping to hit 2 hours battery life without a gui [21:10] Naex, what laptop? [21:10] Toshiba a200 [21:10] ctrl-alt-backspace perhaps? [21:11] Naex: depending on what run-level you are in of course. If in 4 X will re-spawn. I think init 3 would do then but haven't actually tried it on slackware [21:11] Thanks [21:11] Naex, um well what cpu, ram, etc? [21:12] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [21:12] centrino 1.67ghz, 2gigs of ram, ati go 2400 [21:13] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:13] I'm looking where Pat sets the "ondemand" governor in /etc Showdown [21:13] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.1.7) joined ##slackware. [21:15] try "grep cpufreq /etc/rc.d/*" [21:17] ctrl-alt-backspace only works if you've enabled it in your hal policies [21:19] why does makepkdg force you to put it in another directory? [21:21] ret (n=ret@74.78.42.190) left irc: "Leaving" [21:21] Naex: what? [21:21] makepkg* [21:22] just curious as to why it forces you to use a directory [21:22] sIRC (n=sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:23] Naex, so you can make sure all the files are segregated out? [21:23] ahh, makes sense [21:23] morbid (n=morbidon@75-25-116-23.lightspeed.sjcpca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:26] slackie (n=x@87.196.21.22) joined ##slackware. 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[22:20] hi room i need a library called libobrender.so.2 which package contain this lib ? [22:21] Have you put that same file name into google and searched for information yet? [22:22] I would suggest using the package browser on slackware.com to search for the file name, but... [22:22] you are missing either openbox or obconf [22:22] look at slackbuilds.org and read the how to. [22:22] seriosuly...read the how to [22:23] nix_chix0r (n=mrspwn@75.104.27.191) joined ##slackware. [22:23] osuly/ously [22:23] was that to me or XSign? [22:24] it was to the person asking the question about a lib in the first place. [22:25] I get an odd error with startx: "xf860OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory)" [22:25] I definitely didn't touch this file [22:25] but it doesn't work [22:25] did you tough /etc/inittab ? [22:26] tough? [22:26] touch* [22:26] he meant touch [22:26] I think he means touch [22:26] no I didn't [22:26] so what did you do? [22:27] heya hitest, how are you? [22:27] I was trying to get startx to work for non-root [22:27] hiya fire|bird , I am well, ty:) how are you? [22:27] ok, so you login to the console as non-root and runs startx? [22:27] hitest: I'm excellent, thank you. :) [22:27] Mellar_ (n=ben@ti400720a080-2820.bb.online.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:27] I ran "chmod u+s /usr/bin/xinit" [22:27] Showdown (n=Propose@211.180.33.9) left irc: "Leaving" [22:27] following a forum [22:27] did that kill anything important? [22:28] Mellar (n=ben@83.108.211.8) joined ##slackware. [22:28] if a forum post told you to go jump off a bridge... [22:28] :P [22:28] he said it worked [22:28] er, the OP [22:28] glarb (i=1000@c-68-42-189-210.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:28] fire|bird: I'm just going to install Opera 10.10 from SBo.....then maybe tomorrow FBSD 8.0 in a VM.....fun Friday:) [22:29] no, but I don't think you need to set the sticky bit on that file? [22:29] so, if I post on a forum that jumping off a bridge didnt' kill me? [22:29] hitest: \o/, have fun. :) [22:29] hitest: make sure plenty of beer is available. [22:29] ty:) [22:29] BP{k}; good idea! I do my best work with beer;) [22:29] Naex_: you definitely don't need xinit to be suid. cmk_zzz, note that suid != sticky [22:30] hitest: I tried installing FBSD 8 in a VM, and couldn't get xorg to install, got stuck on videoproto. :P [22:30] Naex_: what problem were you attempting to solve with the suidifying of $(which xinit) [22:30] rworkman: noted! [22:30] "xf86EnableIOPorts: Failed to set IOPL for I/O" [22:30] another fatal server error [22:30] it worked as root, not as any other user [22:31] slackie (n=x@87.196.21.22) left irc: "Papaver Somniferum" [22:31] fire|bird: interesting. maybe they've changed something in xorg with fbsd. I'll let you know how i do, if I discover something:) [22:31] godling, ~~ [22:32] godling, i just want a package name :) [22:32] XSign: what? [22:32] tough luck, quit installing random pcakages [22:32] hitest: yeah, I'm not sure what happened with it, it downloaded, just got stuck. [22:32] XSign, do you know which package contain libobrender.so.2 library ? [22:32] XSign: What it seems like you want is for someone else to Google that library for you and find out the package name. [22:32] :) [22:34] fire|bird: were you using ports or pkg_add to install xorg? [22:34] I am considering looking into buying a SheevaPlug [22:35] rworkman: have any ideas? [22:36] fred_ (i=3362@connie.slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [22:36] hitest: pkg_add [22:36] Nick change: fred_ -> Guest60008 [22:37] godling, i did but no reasult [22:37] rworkman_ (i=3356@connie.slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [22:37] fadein_ (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) joined ##slackware. [22:37] jkwood_ (n=jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) joined ##slackware. [22:38] I found results for that lib off google so you are doing it wrong if you find nothing at all. [22:38] Naex_: how did you add the user? [22:38] adduser [22:38] Naex_: which groups does it belong to? [22:38] I already told you, depending on what you are doing...(2009-11-26 19:22:43) antiwire: you are missing either openbox or obconf [22:39] I just had "adduser", so the default group [22:39] fire|bird: weird. that's what I do as well. I can't stand waiting hours for stuff to compile. Now I am curious. I will fortify myself with alcohol tomorrow and face the rigors of bsd vm hell:) This will be fun indeed:) [22:40] hitest: you forgot the "and we will be locked in mortal combat and only one of us shall emerge victorious" ;) [22:40] Naex_: ok so what does: groups say? [22:41] root bin daemon sys adm dsk wheel floppy audio video cdrom tape plugdev power netdev scanner [22:41] BP{k}: lol [22:41] chasmo77 (n=chas@69.4.142.4) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:41] BP{k}: true, I did forget that part, heh-heh:) [22:41] user048 (i=551998b9@gateway/web/freenode/x-lwlnuperbsmywgyg) joined ##slackware. [22:41] Naex_: for the user you are trying to run [22:41] I'm trying to run it as root now [22:42] where can i download precompiled kernels for slackware? [22:42] -_- [22:42] if you use adduser you should normally be member of the follwing groups; audio cdrom floppy plugdev video [22:42] + users [22:43] Naex_: su - -c groups [22:44] fiyawerx (n=fiyawerx@174.54.144.240) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:44] users floppy audio video cdrom [22:44] paul424 (i=1000@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102141836]" [22:44] although I'm not sure that's what the problem is [22:44] user048: You can use the official kernels or build your own. [22:44] Naex_: no apparently noyt [22:45] It doesn't even load as root =\ can I reinstall /dev/tty0? [22:45] rworkman (i=3356@about/slackware/rworkman) left irc: Nick collision from services. [22:45] Nick change: rworkman_ -> rworkman [22:45] slackmagic (i=1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) got netsplit. [22:45] Matt_____ (n=matt@cpc1-warr1-0-0-cust642.bagu.cable.ntl.com) got netsplit. 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[22:46] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) returned to ##slackware. [22:46] Alan_Hicks (n=alan@cardinal.lizella.net) returned to ##slackware. [22:46] jkwood (n=jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) returned to ##slackware. [22:46] Dominian (i=dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) returned to ##slackware. [22:47] fadein (i=fadein@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.server4you.de) left irc: SendQ exceeded [22:47] Naex_: If I understand you correctly you had X working before? So you must have done something to change the state? installed something? configured someting? [22:47] yeah [22:47] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [22:47] "chmod u+s /usr/bin/xinit" [22:47] that's all I did [22:47] chmod u-s /usr/bin/xinit [22:48] :) [22:48] jkwood (n=jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com) left irc: Connection timed out [22:48] oh sonuva... I <3 you rworkman [22:48] did that work? [22:48] yes [22:48] hitest: hehe, maybe you'll have better luck than what I did. [22:48] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [22:49] Naex_: there's an important lesson here. :) [22:49] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: Connection timed out [22:49] 1 + 1 - 1 = 0? [22:50] Er, no. [22:50] fire|bird: i dunno, we will see. maybe they've introduced something screwy since 7.2::) it will be fun to mess with it, hehe. [22:50] just burned the 8.0 dvd [22:50] Naex_: 1+1-1=1 [22:51] fred (i=3362@slamd64/fred) got lost in the net-split. [22:51] hitest: yeah, the installer is a bit different even, that is if I'm remembering right what the 7.2 installer was like. [22:51] cool [22:51] not sysinstall anymore? [22:52] not text based? [22:52] hitest: I'm not sure, what I mainly noticed was different dialogs. I haven't done any more with it or dug into what it is using. [22:53] yeah, text-based iirc. :P gosh, I can't remember what it looked like now, I just know it was different. :P [22:53] hitest: ncurses [22:53] hitest: same thing [22:53] interesting indeed. looking forward to trying it out in a vm. at this point I'm not willing to touch any of my slackware partitions....so vm it will be:) [22:53] slackie (n=x@87-196-21-22.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [22:53] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:53] thanks deco :P [22:53] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-216-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:54] fire|bird: you're welcome :P [22:54] deco: okay, thanks. [22:54] hitest: yeah, VM's are great for that. :) [22:54] hitest: np [22:54] laj_ (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Connection timed out [22:54] ls -lh [22:54] oops [22:55] fire|bird: agreed. all of the fun without effing up your slackware install [22:55] hitest: lol, yeah. It seems even with VM's I still manage to do that. :P [22:55] hitest: just to let you know vbox is not really friendly with the BSDs [22:56] not designed for [22:56] deco: I'll be using qemu, that seems to work well with fbsd. [22:56] hitest: ok cool [22:56] I run it in vmware and it works pretty ok, at least 6.4 and 6 [22:56] *7 [22:57] last ran fbsd 7.2 with gnome in qemu. [22:58] sanitarium (n=heretic@c-24-99-169-176.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:00] XSign (n=XSign@124.130.162.35) left irc: "‚»" [23:00] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.14.183) joined ##slackware. [23:02] ccfreak2k_ (n=ccfreak2@71.94.19.34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:02] Brain2Damage (n=B2D@201.10.12.6) joined ##slackware. [23:03] user2438 (n=user4592@adsl-99-162-227-97.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:05] TClayton_ (n=TClayton@nc-76-3-71-178.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:18] alreadygone (i=500@119.154.8.60) joined ##slackware. [23:18] Hi MLanden [23:19] heya,godling...how's it going? [23:21] tank-man (i=1000@S010600121729c6a1.vc.shawcable.net) left irc: "Got some milk stuck in my teeth" [23:21] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@unaffiliated/agentc0re) joined ##slackware. [23:23] Hey is there a way to use sed or even a regex to delete new line in between the timing and the captions . http://pastebin.com/m3f90a8c1 [23:23] Rachael (n=nnnnnnnn@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [23:23] but i don't want to delete the white space above the numbering. [23:23] MLanden: alright, I guess [23:23] you? [23:24] which newlines? [23:24] like after "00:01:20,498 --> 00:01:23,458" ? [23:24] chillin' for the evenin' thanks godling [23:24] mancha: yes. but not the ones above the numbers IE: 1 [23:25] agent, you could do this with a quick parse, if it reads "00" then skip the next line [23:26] not sure how to use sed or regex to do it, though [23:27] s/\n//g ? [23:27] agentc0re: you want to delete all blank lines? [23:27] he only wants to delete them after the timestamps [23:28] godling: no, just the ones in between the timing and script/captions. [23:29] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-161-98.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] i need to turn it into this: http://pastebin.com/m5edc8ab0 [23:30] mm.. [23:30] agentc0re: so you want to do something like s/\n\n/\n/g ? [23:30] remove the excess newlines? [23:30] smallgoat__ (n=andy@host86-166-154-172.range86-166.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:30] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) joined ##slackware. [23:30] eviljames: not all of em. [23:30] sed don't work thatta way [23:30] eviljames: not all of them. [23:31] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:31] mancha: i wasn't sure, just mentioning it as a suggestion. [23:31] mancha: just thinking out loud, i wouldn't expect that to work with sed [23:31] I recently installed a new cdrom drive in my server box. but I don't think it recognized that. The drive ejects and I think I did all the connections right, but I can't get it to work. How do I go about it? [23:31] you'll have to read two lines at a time, and use an if(line 1 blank and line 2 start with letter) then print 1, else print 1 [23:32] cdrecord -scanbus does not find the drive. [23:32] er "then print 1" should be then next (ie not print 1) [23:32] cmk_zzz (n=martink@219-89-201-169.adsl.xtra.co.nz) left irc: "leaving" [23:33] is there a way to print numbers in numerical order in the blank area's? i could then say all odd numbers are removed and all even numbers are removed with readding the blank space. [23:33] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [23:34] smallgoat__ (n=andy@86.147.225.182) joined ##slackware. [23:34] frullet (n=hooch@124.168.243.149) joined ##slackware. [23:37] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [23:38] agentc0re: sounds like a job for perl [23:40] cryptic0 (n=cryptic0@209.189.246.113) left irc: "Leaving" [23:40] probably. might take too long to figure out, as we speak my friend is doing it by hand. :P [23:42] spider1010 (n=spider10@99.37.95.140) joined ##slackware. [23:43] hello slackers [23:43] heya,spider1010 [23:44] nick[0] (n=sten@S01060016b664a9e5.lb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:45] I hate Ubuntu so much. I'm on vacation and only have my wifes laptop with Ubuntu on it. [23:45] It SUCKS. [23:46] kevin_01123 (n=kevin@24.216.187.138) joined ##slackware. [23:46] so install something else. [23:46] Did your wife install ubuntu on it? [23:46] Can't its not my laptop [23:46] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:46] Who installed ubuntu on it? [23:46] me for my wife. [23:47] for some reason creating an /etc/modprobe.d/e1000.conf containing "install e1000 /sbin/modprobe e1000 ; sleep 1; /usr/sbin/ethtool -s eth0 wol d" triggers an infinite loop of sh's running ethtool...but I don't know why [23:47] so you hate ubuntu but you installed it? [23:47] spider1010: I intaled slackware for my wife on her PC she loves slackware 13.0 and xfce [23:47] interesting little situation we have here [23:47] spider1010: why not install what you want to use onto USB flash,and then boot from that -- you get what you want, and it doesn't affect your wife's Ubuntu installation [23:47] installed* [23:48] Mibaezjr2k (n=Mibaezjr@68.210.24.4) joined ##slackware. [23:48] hello all [23:48] Shes done with school next summer but until then she doesn't want me changing anything with it. [23:48] agent, this is hackish but hell.... cat myfile.txt | sed '/^.$/d' | sed -e 's/^\([0-9]\)[^0-9]/\n\1/g' [23:49] antiwire, spider1010: you must admit that Ubuntu does have nice fonts, just about hassle-free, right after installation [23:49] heya,Mibaezjr2k [23:49] nick[0]: Did I say anything against ubuntu? [23:49] I don't think I did [23:49] Oh, must i [23:49] Mibaezjr2k (n=Mibaezjr@68.210.24.4) left ##slackware. [23:50] For I thinks that I must not [23:50] I have had increaseing issues with that distro [23:51] But this is not a ubuntu bashing channel [23:51] hey guys im having some strange problem, i own a dir /home/musica, i did chown -R gonza /home/musica, and there are some .mp3 files i cant play on amarok... [23:51] the files are there but, i cant play them [23:51] antiwire: I didn't realise I had an argumentative tone. (out of curiousity though, do you find that fonts are one of Ubuntu's virtues? <- is one thing I've come to respect 'buntu for) [23:51] spider1010: I understand. maybe show your wife what a *real* linux box looks like and she'll want something other than ubuntu. show her your slackware box. [23:51] acidtripper: can mplayer play them? [23:51] hitest: lol [23:51] mm lets see [23:52] i dont have mplayer [23:52] ;) [23:52] vlc? same [23:52] i plan on it after she gets done with school (just 4 months) [23:52] spider1010: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:usbboot [23:52] acidtripper: see if vlc will play them [23:52] spider1010: sounds good, man [23:52] yes [23:52] Hell yea [23:52] nick[0]: Again, Did I say anything against ubuntu? I did not. I was not the one saying it sucks. I think you actually need to be aiming your suggestions and questions at spider1010, not me. [23:52] vlc play them [23:53] antiwire: I'm not "aiming" anything at you, and am not arguing. [23:53] antiwire: but merely including you in what seemed to be a 3-way discussion [23:53] nick[0]: actually you did aim it at me when you addressed me, along with spider1010. [23:54] jeez, would you guys take the nerdrage and go slap it out somewhere else? [23:55] OK lets all put our guns down at the same time. [23:55] Action: nick[0] shrugs [23:55] :-) [23:55] MLanden, vlc plays them [23:56] http://www.sfbg.com/entry.php?entry_id=9462&catid=&volume_id=452&issue_id=460&volume_num=44&issue_num=08 [23:56] so anyways, when write an install e1000 line in /etc/modprobe.d/foo.conf, it triggers an infinite loop. Anyone know why? [23:56] wtf? [23:57] nick[0]: paste the line [23:57] godling: thank god or you or whatever that your here. these people scare me so much. with their talks or distros and their anger. THEIR PURE RAGE. [23:57] sanitarium (n=heretic@c-24-99-169-176.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:57] what happened to "if you're going to san francisco...be sure to wear some flowers in your hair..." [23:57] sanitarium (n=heretic@c-24-99-169-176.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:57] acidtripper: when you start amarok from a terminal,any errors? [23:57] lets see... [23:58] mancha: good reason to encrypt /home, I think :-) [23:58] rworkman: install e1000 /sbin/modprobe e1000 ; sleep 1; /usr/sbin/ethtool -s eth0 wol d [23:58] nick[0]: it's obvious. [23:58] mancha: I just saw an ad for goodvibes.com [23:58] mancha: it was on that url you posted [23:58] anyone here ever use a distro called linvo http://linvo.org/ [23:59] mancha: I shouldn't have to see that [23:59] nick[0]: modprobe runs the install line for *each* invocation of "sbin/modprobe e1000" [23:59] rworkman: ahhhh [23:59] smallgoat__ (n=andy@86.147.225.182) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:59] MLanden, i'll pastebin output [23:59] nick[0]: IOW, use this: install e1000 /sbin/modprobe -i e1000 ; sleep 1 ; /usr/sbin/ethtool -s eth0 wol d [00:00] --- Fri Nov 27 2009