[00:00] <hitest> lol
[00:00] <MLanden> just on the use of a tone correction,I mean
[00:00] <CygnusX1_> d
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[00:01] <fire|bird> mfillpot: I'm not sure, I know he was in here earlier today and still having some wireless issues, but then he got it going again, and now I haven't seen him around.
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[00:02] <hitest> BP{k} I do my best.....and worst computing when I'm blasted:)
[00:02] <fire|bird> best AND worst, wow, you're good hitest
[00:02] <mfillpot> fire|bird: I think we should leave him be with his issues since it is apparent that either he doesn't research or he doesn't have good memory
[00:02] <hitest> I try:)
[00:03] <mfillpot> ls
[00:03] <fire|bird> hitest: It really takes talent (or being hammered) to do that. :P
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[00:03] <hitest> ha-ha
[00:03] <fire|bird> mfillpot: yeah, no will to want to learn/read.
[00:04] <hitest> I'm usually fearless when I'm a few sheets to the wind, so I'll be more inclined to do dumb stuff
[00:04] <mfillpot> fire|bird: I enjoy helping people but his lack of ambition and horrible choice of name were really irritating me
[00:04] <MLanden> learning is part of the fun...:D
[00:04] <fire|bird> mfillpot: haha, yeah, for sure.
[00:05] <mfillpot> fire|bird: some people are just meant to point-and-click and follow numbered directions, I call them end-users, and they will never be anything but
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[00:07] <godling> that's a rather pessimistic view
[00:07] <godling> but then again I suppose many people don't want to be more than that.
[00:08] <fire|bird> godling: For some, that's the only view there can be.
[00:08] <mfillpot> godling: I was quite optimistic until yesterday that user definitely changed my opinion
[00:08] <diven> lol
[00:09] <godling> everyone is young and naive at some point
[00:09] <diven> I remember my first lesson in linux
[00:09] <diven> case sensitivity
[00:09] <siimo> just watched the new tv show cougar town haha man cant believe its been so long... courtney cox from friends is now a cougar
[00:09] <mfillpot> how can anyone not know how to see file permissions and think they can snoop around in slack?
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[00:13] <fhobia> anybody using xmms2? :-)
[00:13] <Quiznos> siimo amen
[00:13] <Quiznos> mfillpot lsattr
[00:13] <Quiznos> or acl i think
[00:14] <mfillpot> lol
[00:15] <mfillpot> what is the command to mute someone in xchat?
[00:15] <fhobia> probably /ignore ?
[00:15] <fire|bird> mfillpot: /ignore nick_here
[00:15] <fire|bird> mfillpot: or, you can right click the nick and hit ignore
[00:15] <mfillpot> ok, I will use that next time a windows enduser drops by
[00:17] <mfillpot> I decided to repartition my system today and finally install both the 32 and 64-bit versions of 13.0 and -current, only one more install is left
[00:17] <Quiznos> mfillpot synchronicity: cox on a new show; jen aniston on cbs now being interviewed
[00:17] <twolf> I use windows (reluntantly)
[00:17] <Dominian> mfillpot: VM ftw
[00:17] <Quiznos> and a friends episode on Fox now
[00:17] <mfillpot> Dominian: I have kvm installed and configured, but I am doing physical installs to test against my true hardware for slackbuilds and the current tree
[00:18] <Dominian> ah
[00:18] <Quiznos> i mean bruce who played on friends being interviewed by letterman
[00:21] <MLanden> brb
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[00:35] <agentc0re> hi all
[00:36] <mfillpot> yo agentc0re
[00:36] <Quiznos> hi
[00:36] <fire|bird> y0 agentc0re
[00:36] <agentc0re> so today was the day that you always try to avoid... I crashed pretty bad for a skydive landing.  :/
[00:36] <agentc0re> my knee is fubared
[00:36] <fire|bird> yikes, you alright.
[00:37] <fire|bird> s/./?/
[00:37] <agentc0re> it is just extremely swollen.
[00:37] <fire|bird> what happened?
[00:38] <agentc0re> The chute i flew was the first time i flew that one at that size... it has a lot of flare.  Basically i popped and then slammed to the ground  (flare = brakes)
[00:38] <hitest> ouch
[00:38] <fire|bird> wow
[00:38] <agentc0re> err popped up.
[00:39] <fire|bird> At least it's just your knee fubared. Could've been worse.
[00:39] <agentc0re> totally.
[00:39] <agentc0re> hehe, i got dragged by the chute too after i hit the ground.  lol
[00:39] <hitest> bummer
[00:41] <mfillpot> at least you now about it and can keep it from happening next time you use that chute
[00:41] <agentc0re> ya, it'll be the next rig i use so that i can correct my mistake.
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[00:42] <Quiznos> there's a .br fed in ##Linux
[00:42] <agentc0re> Oh, and there was no wind at all today.  So when i did a spiral, some of my end cells collapsed in mid air and i fell really quick for a brief second until they filled back up..
[00:42] <agentc0re> Totally forgot about that because of the knee pain.
[00:42] <hitest> so is your knee really borked or sprained.....it must hurt like hell
[00:43] <agentc0re> I'll post some pictures.
[00:43] <agentc0re> :D
[00:43] <hitest> k
[00:43] <hitest> :)
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[00:44] <hitest> g' nite all
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[00:44] <mfillpot> nite hitest
[00:44] <hitest> nite mfillpot
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[00:49] <fhobia> glad i got my facts straight from these microsoft expertzone training slides
[00:49] <fhobia> :-D
[00:49] <mfillpot> fhobia: what are the facts about those slides?
[00:50] <fhobia> http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-pick/microsoft-expertzone-training-teaches-best-buy-employees-about-linux-inferiority-2009097/
[00:50] <fhobia> "There are no step-by-step tutorials provided, and help documentation is limited."
[00:50] <fhobia> :-)
[00:51] <fhobia> http://www.overclock.net/windows/569458-microsoft-attack-linux-retail-level-probably.html#post7102419
[00:51] <fhobia> that one is more complete
[00:51] <mfillpot> fhobia: I know that made me laugh also, I thought you were going to say that they were misrepresented on the web..lol
[00:51] <fhobia> :-)
[00:51] <agentc0re> my knee.  http://imagebin.org/65293  http://imagebin.org/65294
[00:52] <fhobia> i'll wait for someone elses reaction before i check out those knee links
[00:52] <fhobia> lol
[00:52] <diven> that stuff is great fhobia
[00:52] <mfillpot> agentc0re: at least no skin was broken, that just means you need a little break before going out to do it again
[00:53] <agentc0re> yup.  :D
[00:53] <agentc0re> knee feels like a mini swimming pool..
[00:53] <mfillpot> agentc0re: how long with you break be after this?
[00:55] <agentc0re> eh?
[00:55] <mfillpot> agentc0re: how long before you can go skydiving again?
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[00:56] <agentc0re> Oh, probably next weekend.  I wasn't planning on even going this weekend.
[00:56] <agentc0re> fire|bird: you missed the pictures.
[00:56] <agentc0re> my knee.  http://imagebin.org/65293  http://imagebin.org/65294
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[00:57] <fire|bird> agentc0re: stupid Internet's been going off and on tonight. :P
[00:57] <agentc0re> sucky
[00:58] <fire|bird> OUCH
[00:59] <fire|bird> agentc0re: glad you're alright, aside from a fubared knee.
[01:00] <agentc0re> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBMO8F1I-h4&feature=sub  haha, AVGN is great.
[01:00] <agentc0re> thanks man.
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[01:02] <neonflux> agentc0re: did you go tandem, static line, or solo sky diving?
[01:06] <agentc0re> neonflux: i solo now.
[01:06] <neonflux> awesome
[01:06] <agentc0re> today marked 30 jumps.
[01:06] <neonflux> I never got that far
[01:07] <agentc0re> you should.  it's a great sport.
[01:07] <neonflux> definetely
[01:13] <mfillpot> I think I'm out for the night I gotta finish installing -current and win****
[01:13] <fire|bird> see ya mfillpot
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[01:16] <diven> for some reason I dont find cussing to be that funny any more
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[01:16] <fire|bird> sweet, found another kde speed up. :D
[01:17] <MLanden> fire|bird: how?
[01:18] <fire|bird> MLanden: Ok, (this is for 4.3.1, but can be done with 4.2.x as well but different commands) but you hit Alt + F2, then type kquitapp plasma-desktop, hit enter,  then, you hit Alt + F2, and type plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster and then hit enter
[01:18] <Keiffer> hi. what permissions and owner should my /etc/ssh folder and files have
[01:18] <MLanden> fire|bird: cool
[01:19] <fire|bird> MLanden: always nice to find tips and tricks for speeding things up. :)
[01:19] <fire|bird> regardless of de/wm
[01:19] <MLanden> yup
[01:19] <fire|bird> It is a nice improvement too, quite noticeable
[01:19] <MLanden> fire|bird: nevah know when ya need 'em...:P
[01:19] <fire|bird> you can also edit a file so that you don't have to enter that each time too.
[01:20] <fire|bird> yeah, for sure.
[01:20] <fire|bird> MLanden: Here's how I found out about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqSsgTNRA3U
[01:20] <fire|bird> berb
[01:20] <fire|bird> err, brb
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[01:32] <papajack> hello
[01:33] <twolf> hi
[01:33] <papajack> I have some problems here it goes.
[01:33] <twolf> bring-it-on
[01:33] <papajack> I installed slackware, dual boot with vista home premium. 32bit
[01:33] <papajack> slack also 32 bit
[01:34] <papajack> After the intall was done I rebooted and I suddently noticed the brithness of the screen change to something much lower.
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[01:35] <papajack> I booted up the startx and change the brithness to max but it wasn't even near to what i was used in vista.
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[01:35] <papajack> aAfterwards I tried to boot vista and I get this big fat red ERROR sign covering the entire screen and above it I see "Can not open file C:\recovery.dat"
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[01:35] <papajack> and now i'm reinstalling vista :|
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[01:36] <papajack> Any help would be appreciated!
[01:36] <twolf> I wish I could help
[01:36] <xtor_> What is the name of the file where one would usually put startup commands that run once upon boot?
[01:36] <twolf> very limited experience with Vista here, differing screen brightness is intriguing
[01:36] <diven> that tip helps out quite a bit here fire|bird
[01:36] <diven> thanks
[01:37] <juan--d-_-b> xtor_: rc.local ?
[01:37] <diven> one funny thing though
[01:37] <fire|bird> MLanden: Wow, this has really made a speed difference in kde. :P It's great.
[01:37] <MLanden> you go speed buggy!!!
[01:37] <papajack> amaybe some problems with the vista bootloader?
[01:37] <xtor_> does rc.local run last, after all runlevel startups have already executed?
[01:37] <papajack> maybe*
[01:37] <diven> there is a metallica video in the related videos, lol
[01:38] <fire|bird> haha, I'm always looking to tweak things for speed. I got boot sped up quite a bit too. I moved the font, etc. stuff to rc.local from rc.M and made it run as a background process, and WOW did that ever make a difference.
[01:38] <fire|bird> MLanden: ^^^
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[01:39] <MLanden> congrats,fire|bird
[01:40] <fire|bird> MLanden: I guess, maybe I should have been speed|racer :P
[01:40] <MLanden> lol
[01:41] <twolf> driving over 150 mph can be a little scary
[01:41] <diven> although I have not realized the utility in spinning the plasmoids around
[01:41] <fire|bird> twolf: even with a helmet? :P
[01:42] <twolf> fire|bird: yep
[01:42] <twolf> the mile markers go by rather fast
[01:43] <fire|bird> Wait, there was mile markers? :P
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[01:44] <Keiffer> how can i force gnome-terminal to remember a specific size, geometry?
[01:44] <fire|bird> gnome 3 is looking rather interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQUuH2dIFHM&feature=related
[01:44] <papajack> Is it possible that the vista recovery partition has anything to do with this?
[01:44] <fire|bird> Keiffer: There might be something in gnome-terminal's settings to save that, but I'm not sure, I don't use gnome/
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[01:45] <Keiffer> fire|bird, there isn't
[01:45] <twolf> papajack: I have no idea, all I know is I have not had any real issues with "unexplained" behavior in over 10 years of using Slackware Linux, windows not so much
[01:45] <fire|bird> Keiffer: might try a google search "gnome-terminal + save + geometry"
[01:46] <papajack> ok i did a little search, it seems like it's only related to asus notebooks
[01:46] <spook> whats that little program that monitors a process and restarts it if it dies?
[01:46] <spook> sort of like, autossh, but more generic
[01:46] <papajack> <- has an asus
[01:46] <MLanden> very interesting,fire|bird
[01:46] <papajack> what about the brithness, twolf?
[01:47] <twolf> papajack: the brightness of my screens has never been an issue, I have never compared them with vista though
[01:47] <papajack> this is what i was talking about http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/2892072661_bcce39fa08.jpg
[01:47] <papajack> ok
[01:48] <papajack> on some forums they adviced to delete the recovery partition..
[01:48] <twolf> papajack: thats looks like it has a devious origin
[01:48] <papajack> i have a cd recovery with vista, i wonder why did they make a partition with it too...
[01:48] <Quiznos> spook inetd?
[01:48] <twolf> papajack: did you burn your vista install discs?
[01:49] <spook> Quiznos: no.
[01:49] <papajack> no twolf
[01:49] <papajack> they provided them
[01:49] <papajack> along with a cd with the drivers
[01:49] <Quiznos> spook while ! pidof app; do app done;
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[01:49] <twolf> papajack: but you have bootable media for your vista?
[01:49] <Quiznos> spook add a sleep
[01:49] <spook> Quiznos: you invoked it like,  <myseriousprogram> httpd   for example
[01:49] <twolf> kill the partition then
[01:49] <spook> Quiznos: it was better than that
[01:49] <Quiznos> k
[01:49] <papajack> yes
[01:49] <papajack> that cd.
[01:50] <spook> cant for the life of me remember even the vaguest idea what it was called
[01:50] <Quiznos> spook that's just a sample with httpd, not apache sepcific, right?
[01:50] <spook> Quiznos: yeah.
[01:50] <Quiznos> k
[01:51] <Quiznos> no clue
[01:51] <papajack> it's a dvd actually.
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[01:52] <Quiznos> it's really cool outside down here
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[01:53] <spook> Quiznos: lazy way i guess is comparing the pidof with the pid file
[01:54] <spook> through cron, and restarting as appropriate
[01:54] <Quiznos> my way is better
[01:54] <Quiznos> but with a sleep
[01:54] <spook> i'd rather not use a busy wait.
[01:54] <Quiznos> kk
[01:54] <Quiznos> then cron
[01:54] <Quiznos> `daemon`?
[01:54] <spook> huh?
[01:55] <Quiznos> it's the one thing that i thought of
[01:55] <Quiznos> watch isnt right
[01:55] <spook> oh right.
[01:55] <Quiznos> does wrong thing
[01:55] <spook> i think that actually might be it
[01:55] <Quiznos> well mab
[01:55] <Quiznos> k
[01:55] <Quiznos> watch is a cyclical cmd runner
[01:55] <Quiznos> like watching df output
[01:55] <spook> daemon
[01:55] <Quiznos> k
[01:56] <spook> thats horribly old :(
[01:56] <Quiznos> which?
[01:57] <spook> daemon
[01:57] <MLanden> Quiznos: yeah,looks like y'all have rain off the coast
[01:57] <Quiznos> k
[01:57] <spook> known to compile in 2.2 and 2.4
[01:57] <Quiznos> yep
[01:58] <Quiznos> ok bbl
[01:58] <Quiznos> gone
[01:59] <MLanden> bbiab
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[02:01] <spook> Whats that over there? you mean the tumbler? oooh you wouldnt be interested in that.
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[02:05] <spook> ps -p `cat vm.pid` | wc -l      1 if not running, 2 if running :)
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[02:08] <papajack> any of you guys know of a tool that I can write on a cd and be able to delete the partitions on a notebook ?
[02:09] <papajack> Windows is giving me an error and slack won't boot also :|
[02:09] <spook> papajack: use a usbboot image?
[02:09] <papajack>  i think i might have a usb stick around
[02:09] <spook> slackware/usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT
[02:09] <papajack> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown blocks (8,5)
[02:10] <papajack> that is the error
[02:10] <spook> sounds like lilo setup wrong
[02:10] <spook> or kernel problems
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[02:10] <dchmelik> the Star Trek game in y series is so boring I want to change it to say 'Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan' sort of like the wargames game
[02:11] <spook> dchmelik: its really hard :P
[02:12] <dchmelik> I think I have played it for 18 years... it used to be on DOS
[02:12] <spook> i always die
[02:12] <spook> i should map the game out
[02:13] <dchmelik> why not just play Star Trek RPG or something
[02:13] <spook> cbf?
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[02:14] <dchmelik> 'cbf?'
[02:14] <twolf> I watched Deep Space Nine of the last couple of years, great series.
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[02:14] <twolf> s/of/over
[02:15] <Thursap> by default, when using :set cindent Vim identing by 2 tabs while coding. how to set it to 1 tab? sorry for asking this here, but #vim's almost dead.
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[02:31] <mancha> shiftwidth?
[02:31] <mancha> :set cindent shiftwidth=2
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[02:36] <dchmelik> Baal Luulz
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[03:10] <spook> which is better, mdadm on lvm, or kvm on mdadm?
[03:10] <spook> erm, lvm on mdadm
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[03:12] <Lord_Khelben> the usual/(appearing more logical) is lvm on raid/mdadm
[03:12] <spook> yeah my thoughts too
[03:13] <Lord_Khelben> or raid->crypt->lvm too
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[03:15] <Lord_Khelben> download and compile mdadm 3 which was a rewrite with additional features and presumably better/more stable
[03:15] <Lord_Khelben> 3.0.2 is the latest i think
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[03:16] <papajack> will changing a hdd on a notebook affect the warrancy in any way?
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[03:17] <siimo> papajack: probably will be void, check with manufacturer
[03:17] <papajack> hm
[03:17] <spook> papajack: probably.  if you can do it without breaking any seals, and put back the original when trying to claim warranty, it should be ok
[03:17] <papajack> im not an expert
[03:17] <Lord_Khelben> papajack: never had a laptop so don't take my word but i think any action that opens the plastic "case" it void warranty
[03:18] <spook> Lord_Khelben: they usually have warranty seals
[03:18] <siimo> Lord_Khelben: i think adding ram might be ok, most laptops have a separate cover that comes off for adding memory,  mine also has a small cover for hard drive with no sticker over it
[03:19] <Lord_Khelben> siimo: nice :)
[03:20] <Lord_Khelben> a friend of mine had a acer laptop that had desktop components (3.5" hdd and plain ddr ram) in easy to get to compartments (in expense of large size and weight)
[03:20] <spook> heh
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[03:25] <siimo> but overall i kinda hate laptops, i dont think ill buy one again
[03:25] <Quiznos> lol
[03:25] <Quiznos> omg i got a friend request from PatV on facebook
[03:26] <MLanden> Quiznos: well,aren't you SPECIAL!!.....:P
[03:26] <Quiznos> heh; i'm wondering when i used my real name
[03:26] <Quiznos> i might have to reject request
[03:27] <Quiznos> lol
[03:27] <fhobia> !?
[03:29] <MLanden> brb
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[03:34] <spook> Quiznos: i sent him a request but he hasnt accepted
[03:39] <jeev> mingdao, still using kvm ?
[03:39] <rg3> did anyone overseas get their copy of slackware 13 already?
[03:39] <spook> jeev: why not? kvm rules
[03:39] <jeev> was looking at his slackbuild, was wondering if there is an updated one or if i should
[03:39] <jeev> the only slackware box i have online now is a very important one, i dontw ant to break it
[03:40] <spook> jeev: http://spooksoftware.com/spook/kvm.tar.gz   thats my build, giving it more testing before i submit
[03:40] <jeev> it's almost 1 am, i can install slack on a server via kvm over IP + netboot
[03:40] <jeev> but i think it's too late
[03:40] <jeev> i guess it wont hurt for me to just build eh ?
[03:40] <jeev> i wont install
[03:41] <jeev> 85? 88 is out
[03:41] <jeev> i dunno much about kvm, i've used xen a little.
[03:41] <spook> 0.11
[03:41] <spook> 0.10.6 sorry
[03:41] <jeev> what is that? your version number ?
[03:41] <spook> the version of kvm.
[03:41] <jeev> DOWNLOAD="http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kvm/kvm-85.tar.gz"
[03:41] <jeev> what's that differ between 88?
[03:41] <spook> the modules are in-kernel, and provided by default in slackware
[03:41] <jeev> i'm just curious
[03:41] <jeev> ahh
[03:41] <spook> huh.
[03:42] <spook> oh wait.
[03:42] <jeev> hrmf
[03:42] <spook> jeev: http://spooksoftware.com/spook/
[03:42] <spook> kvm source tarball is there, you can also get it from kvm's sourceforge site.
[03:42] <spook> i havent written the .info properly yet
[03:43] <jeev> im confused, what is the difference then between 0.10.6 and 88?
[03:44] <spook> when it went in mainline kernel, they changed their versioning scheme, i think.
[03:44] <jeev> for example, mingdao's is http://www.slackwarebox.com/resources/kvm.SlackBuild
[03:44] <jeev> it's for version 73, your slackbuild file says to download -85
[03:44] <spook> since all the build does is compile the userland tools
[03:44] <spook> my .info file says that, the build itself uses 0.10.6
[03:45] <jeev> i guess i'm just confused.
[03:45] <jeev> http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/ChangeLog shows -88
[03:45] <spook> i'll say it a 3rd time, the kvm.info file in my build is incorrect.
[03:45] <jeev> ok..
[03:46] <spook> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kvm/files/
[03:46] <spook> look at the dates
[03:46] <jeev> i see
[03:47] <spook> all you need is the userland tools.  -88 refers to the kernel code :)
[03:47] <jeev> oh
[03:47] <jeev> so
[03:47] <jeev> it's already in the kernel, so i dont really need -88
[03:48] <spook> yes, you want me to repeat that for you? :P
[03:48] <jeev> on paper please
[03:48] <spook> 15:41 < spook> the modules are in-kernel, and provided by default in slackware
[03:48] <jeev> can i run kvm through virtualbox to test?
[03:48] <jeev> i dont wanna break my important storage box
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[03:48] <spook> what.
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[03:49] <spook> modprobe kvm-intel or kvm-amd
[03:49] <spook> and the userland tool is qemu-system<yourarch>
[03:49] <jeev> im asking if i could run it through VirtualBox for now.
[03:49] <spook> does virtualbox have kvm support?
[03:50] <jeev> i guess im too lazy to check
[03:50] <jeev> so i'll boot into it
[03:50] <spook> basically, kvm wont break your system.
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[03:50] <Lord_Khelben> virtualbox has a little icon showing a chip which is enabled when the computer has virtualisation support
[03:50] <spook> i cant think of any conceivable way it could
[03:51] <spook> Lord_Khelben: but does that use the kvm stuff in the kernel or its own stuff?
[03:51] <jeev> hmm spook
[03:51] <Lord_Khelben> i dont' have kvm support enabled on my kernel and its still enabled on virtualbox so i think it uses its own
[03:51] <Lord_Khelben> how is that possible without talking to the kernel i don't know
[03:52] <jeev> spook, able to use freebsd through it ?
[03:52] <spook> jeev: check the kvm docs
[03:52] <jeev> no, i know it's possible
[03:53] <jeev> but i was wondering if you've tried or done it
[03:53] <spook> not tried it no
[03:53] <jeev> ok
[03:53] <mingdao> jeev: I am now using Virtual Box.
[03:54] <jeev> oh
[03:54] <jeev> i want to play with it for a little bit and put it on a colo'd box
[03:54] <jeev> operation not supported
[03:54] <jeev> trying to modprobe kvm-intel
[03:54] <jeev> ;)
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[03:55] <spook> grep vme /proc/cpuinfo
[03:55] <spook> or is it vmx
[03:55] <jeev> got vmx.
[03:55] <jeev> vme i mean
[03:56] <mingdao> depends if you have AMD or Intel, first of all
[03:56] <spook> jeev: you've got the extensions, so modprobe kvm-intel should work
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[03:56] <jeev> intel.. i guess it just wont work through virtualbox.
[03:56] <spook> inside virtualbox?
[03:56] <spook> are you on crack?
[03:57] <mingdao> vme is for AMD
[03:57] <spook> mingdao: no, svm is for amd.
[03:57] <jeev> no, im' not on crack. i asked if it'd work
[03:57] <jeev> we didn't know, so i tried it.
[03:57] <spook> jeev: you didnt ask that.
[03:57] <spook> you asked if virtualbox could use kvm
[03:57] <spook> not if kvm would work INSIDE virtualbox.
[03:57] <mingdao> wow, my Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core is an Intel, then, spook
[03:58] <jeev> ;)
[03:58] <jeev> i'll pxe and install slack tomorrow on a box
[03:58] <mingdao> jeev: have you used VBox or KVM yet?
[03:58] <jeev> virtualbox? sure
[03:58] <jeev> kvm, never
[03:59] <jeev> i use some xen
[03:59] <mingdao> I haven't built KVM since about a year ago.
[03:59] <jeev> spook, why does kvm rely on x11 libs
[03:59] <jeev> or libsdl..
[03:59] <spook> it doesnt
[03:59] <spook> oh yeah
[03:59] <spook> sdl
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[04:00] <mingdao> But VBox is much easier, and supports VT-x/AMD-V and PAE/NX.
[04:00] <spook> mingdao: its not vme, i'm looking up the correct intel flag.  amd's flag is svm.
[04:00] <jeev> hmm
[04:01] <Lord_Khelben> qemu/kvm is (supposedly) faster than virtualbox but yes virtualbox is easier/friendlier to use
[04:01] <jeev> i dunno much and may be talking with ignorance here but i feel like virtualbox isn't a professional thing to rely on
[04:01] <jeev> spook, not possible to avoid x libs?
[04:02] <Lord_Khelben> my experience with virtualbox is that it is near native speed with windows guest and very slow with unix guest. don't know why. every time i install slack or netbsd or anything it is very slow. windows on the other hand is very fast
[04:02] <mingdao> I have Virtual Box 3.0.4 r50677 installed on this box. It install WinXP faster than natively, boots and runs faster than natively, and runs my apps (Adobe InDesign and Photoshop primarily) as good or better than natively.
[04:03] <jeev> To build QEMU without graphical output configure with --disable-gfx-check
[04:03] <jeev> Note that this will disable all output from the virtual graphics card
[04:03] <jeev> except through VNC or curses.
[04:03] Channel flood from jeev -- kicking
[04:03] <jeev> isn't that ok ?
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[04:03] <mingdao> jeev: OTOH, I have not run KVM since the build you mentioned. Newer ones might competer with VBox.
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[04:03] <spook> jeev: at the very least, you'll need some sort of display device, i think you can compile without sdl, and just use the built in vnc server.
[04:04] <jeev> i'll try it
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[04:06] <spook> mingdao: i think its vmx for the intel flag.
[04:07] <jeev> spook, should your build work on 12.2?
[04:08] <jeev> install -m 755 qemu-system-x86_64 "/tmp/SBo/package-kvm/usr/bin"
[04:08] <jeev> make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/SBo/qemu-kvm-0.10.6/x86_64-softmmu'
[04:08] <jeev> mv: cannot stat `/tmp/SBo/package-kvm/usr/share/man': No such file or directory
[04:08] <spook> jeev: probally not.
[04:08] <spook> two secs
[04:08] <jeev> na i think that's my fault
[04:08] <jeev> libsdl.. bah
[04:09] <spook> jeev: fix the ARCH in the build, i hard-set it
[04:09] <jeev> cat kvm/scripts/65-kvm.rules > $PKG/lib/udev/rules.d/65-kvm.rules
[04:09] <jeev> is that right? set to 65?
[04:09] <spook> shrug. EWORKSFORME
[04:10] <jeev> ah yea this box is...
[04:10] <jeev> 32bit OS, 64capable
[04:10] <spook> jeev: you need to change the arch, trust me.
[04:10] <spook> as i said, the build needs some polishing
[04:10] <jeev> i did change the arch
[04:10] <jeev> and the other server which i wanted to pxe into isn't 64bit, fark
[04:11] <jeev> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[04:11] <jeev> make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/SBo/qemu-kvm-0.10.6/x86_64-softmmu'
[04:11] <jeev> /usr/lib/libX11.so.6: undefined reference to `xcb_connect_to_display_with_auth_info'
[04:11] <jeev> that was above the ld returned 1 exit status
[04:11] <spook> you need /x/
[04:12] <spook> not having it will make things harder for yourself
[04:12] <jeev> i added --disable-gfx-check \
[04:12] <spook> yes but.
[04:12] <jeev> hmm,
[04:12] <spook> how do you think vnc works?
[04:12] <jeev> i dont have x installed, i'd install it but hmm.
[04:13] <jeev> i guess i can slackpkg it
[04:13] <spook> :)
[04:14] <jeev> damn, too bad there isn't a simple way, i wonder if i have to installpkg everything
[04:14] <spook> wont slackpkg x do it?
[04:15] <spook> yup, it supports that.
[04:15] <spook> slackpkg [OPTIONS] <action> {PATTERN|FILE}
[04:16] <spook> PATTERN can be a package name or just part of a package name.  It can also be a software series (like kde, a, ap, ...).
[04:16] <jeev> ahh i was putting a slash
[04:17] <jeev> im regretting doing this, i could just install slack tomorrow at the office
[04:17] <jeev> but i'll test here i guess
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[04:20] <mingdao> jeev: what is it that you're doing? You're not installing KVM just to install Slackware?
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[04:22] <jeev> no, i want to colo a pretty good server
[04:23] <jeev> it's just sitting doing nothing.. and i dont wanna waste it, build 4 freebsd's out of it.. to a new POP
[04:23] <mingdao> Does the present OS not work?
[04:23] <jeev> it's fbsd 7.2
[04:24] <jeev> i can't remote into console right now
[04:24] <jeev> so no pxe hope
[04:24] <mingdao> I upgraded my home server here from Slack 10.2 / 2.4.31 to Slack 13.0 2.6.30.5. If I had it to do again, I would not have.
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[04:25] <tank-man> why not?
[04:26] <spook> because hes a massive whinger
[04:26] <mingdao> There was nothing I needed, and so much has changed.
[04:26] <spook> mingdao: when you upgrade from 4-5 year old software, of course lots will have changed.
[04:26] <Lord_Khelben> many things became a lot prettier/easy to use
[04:27] <Lord_Khelben> you needed nothing of these ?
[04:27] <mingdao> spook: stop sucking my balls, eh?
[04:27] <spook> mingdao: oh sorry didnt know i'd touched a nerve
[04:27] <spook> generally, when things work, i dont fuck with them
[04:27] <mingdao> not a nerve ... you hair tickled me
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[04:30] <mingdao> Lord_Khelben: nope
[04:30] <Lord_Khelben> i respect that (though i find it hard to believe)
[04:30] <mingdao> Why do you find it hard to believe?
[04:31] <mingdao> Maybe you're not poked around my petty little server.  ;)
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[04:56] <epple> having problems with logging to icecast, username and password are same in icecast.xml and ices.xml, any help?
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[05:05] <dios_mio> what brand motherboard is best compatible with linux? considering the on-board cards and all?
[05:06] <spook> dios_mio: pretty much anything that isnt super duper cutting edge.
[05:06] <dios_mio> heh
[05:06] <dios_mio> okay
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[05:07] <slackmagic> dios_mio: and this might help too   http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/index.php/cat/8
[05:07] <dios_mio> thanks friend
[05:08] <tank-man> what cpu are you going for?
[05:11] <dios_mio> hmm.. not sure
[05:11] <dios_mio> just want a dual core
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[05:12] <slava_dp> quad core is better
[05:13] <RobotCow> my /bin/bash is 64-bit, but I am trying to chroot a 32-bit slackware
[05:13] <RobotCow> how can i do that?
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[05:21] <spook> trying to get virt-manager to work...
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[05:31] <jeev> anyone on 64bit right now
[05:32] <jeev> nevermind
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[05:33] <quasar> i r on 512bit
[05:33] <jeev> ?:>
[05:34] <jeev> good night
[05:35] <slava_dp> 16bit anyone? :]
[05:38] <mingdao> I r on 8-bit
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[05:48] <toastyto1st> and i'm on a typewriter
[05:49] <spook> i'm using a butterfly
[05:49] <toastyto1st> don't ask
[05:49] <toastyto1st> that is more impressive tahnn my typewrite forsure
[05:53] <mingdao> Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee ...
[05:54] <spook> read xkcd to get the joke
[05:54] <mingdao> what's a xkcd?
[05:55] <spook> mingdao: xkcd.com
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[05:56] <mingdao> geek comics, eh?
[05:56] <mingdao> anybody bored enough to test a couple links?
[05:56] <spook> test how
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[05:58] <mingdao> does http://slackwarebox.dyndns.org:88/slackware/2.6-kernel-build.txt and http://www.slackwarebox.com/resources/2.6-kernel-build.txt have different files for you?
[05:58] <mingdao> One is in my /etc/hosts and the other doesn't seem to change except when I'm in the admin panel at the site.
[05:59] <mingdao> DNS here is horribly broken, so I like to see what gets picked up outside the country.
[06:00] <mingdao> At slackwarebox.com I changed the file, and while logged into the site it's the new version. But when I just enter that link, it's still the old file.
[06:00] <spook> two secs...
[06:01] <spook> yes they are different.
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[06:02] <mingdao> thanks spook
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[06:16] <spook> np.
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[06:34] <jescis> is there a way to add pdf files together?
[06:35] <nooper> google says pdfjoin.com
[06:35] <tewmten> morning
[06:35] <nooper> and many other freewares
[06:35] <nooper> morning tewmten
[06:35] <jescis> nooper, think there's a slackbuild for it?
[06:35] <tewmten> cant you do that with postscript_
[06:35] <tewmten> ?
[06:36] <jescis> can you?
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[06:39] <nooper> there is `psmerge` if you can convert the pdf to ps
[06:39] <nooper> with pdf2ps
[06:40] <jescis> nooper, would it convert back though?
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[06:40] <nooper> there is ps2pdf. i have no idea if these conversions are lossless
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[06:41] <papajack> hi
[06:42] <papajack> I'm still trying to install slackware but now i get this error: "Fatal error: Bad primary partition: Partition 1 ends in the final partial cylid."
[06:42] <papajack> I don't think i've ever had so many problems installing an OS before :|
[06:42] <papajack> It's the third time already.
[06:43] <sahko> http://morecode.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/how-to-fix-fatal-error-bad-primary-partition-1-partition-ends-in-the-final-partial-cylinder/
[06:44] <papajack> i don't wanna 'blow away' anything
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[06:44] <papajack> i wanna keep vista
[06:44] <papajack> already seen that btw.
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[06:46] <papajack>  /join #debian
[06:46] <C00re> no thanks
[06:47] <papajack> my mystake
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[06:51] <tewmten> indeed
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[07:13] <epple> is there any other way to remove packege instead one by one if make uninstall doesent work
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[07:15] <t0f> removepkg <packagename>
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[07:16] <epple> its not listed under /var/log/packages
[07:16] <t0f> oh
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[07:26] <metrofox> hi :)
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[07:29] <mingdao> epple: what package is it?
[07:31] <metrofox> hi Pig_Pen
[07:32] <epple> icegenerator
[07:32] <mingdao> how did you install it?
[07:32] <epple> from source, compiling
[07:33] <epple> ./configure, make, make install
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[07:36] <mingdao> did you check the README and/or other docs to see if there is an UNINSTALL or similar?
[07:37] <epple> yes, no in instructions
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[07:38] <mingdao> epple: have you looked where it's executable is located?
[07:40] <epple> /usr/local/bin
[07:41] <mingdao> For instance, Acrobat Reader is in /usr/bin/Adobe/Reader9/bin/ -- both acroread and UNINSTALL
[07:41] <mingdao> No such happiness with icegenerator?
[07:41] <epple> noop
[07:41] <epple> but ok, its no harm if its there
[07:42] <epple> useless, i get segfault immediately
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[07:44] <mingdao> Well, it looks pretty well documented so that you can see where it did install it's files.
[07:45] <spook> virtual machine manager is really very cool.
[07:45] <spook> makes kvm very enterprisey/vmwarey
[07:48] <mingdao> epple: you might be able to build icegenerator again by making a Slackware package, use "installpkg icegenerator-0.5.4.tgz" or whatever, then "removepkg icegenerator" to get rid of it
[07:48] <mingdao> I'm not sure that will work, but it might.
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[07:48] <epple> ok
[07:49] <mingdao> epple: are you familiar with using SlackBuild scripts to build packages?
[07:50] <epple> yes
[07:50] <mingdao> epple: http://alien.slackbook.org/AST/  <- If you need it, alienBOB has a template you can use. Should suffice for building icegenerator again the way you did, especially since you didn't set any ./configure options.
[07:50] <epple> brb
[07:51] <mingdao> Maybe someone else will reply, but I think this will overwrite your install and get rid of it.
[07:55] <sahko> doubtful as the version made with a SlackBuild wont install in /usr/local
[07:55] <sahko> at least if its done right
[07:55] <t0f> i just looked in the Makefile. do you think 'make uninstall-recursive' might do it?
[07:56] <mingdao> sahko: if he specifies the path it will ...
[07:57] <spook> t0f: yes.
[07:57] <Pig_Pen> The Wine development release 1.1.30 is now available.
[07:57] <mingdao> It's drunk ...
[07:57] <Pig_Pen> wine is fine, but liquor is quicker
[07:58] <mingdao> candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker
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[07:58] <spook> best cure for a hangover is beer i've found.
[07:58] <mingdao> has to do with cheap girls
[07:58] <mingdao> hair of the dog, eh?
[07:58] <spook> had a jug of beer 11am, was first one in the door
[07:58] <Pig_Pen> i prefer prevention, i dont drink enough to cause a hangover
[07:59] <spook> WAS THE BEST FUCKING JUG I HAVE EVER HAD
[07:59] <MLanden> y0 slackers....How's everyone?
[08:00] <spook> i'm loving virtual machine manager
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[08:01] <nositelicense> <=wakin up w/cotton mouth loving water
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[08:13] <abionnnn> I almost killed my slackware distro with slackpkg ._.
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[08:16] <abionnnn> where do I get the logs for slackpkg anyhoo, gotta make sure the damage is completely gone...
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[08:17] <spook> abionnnn: man slackpkg
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[08:17] <GATT0> Hello
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[08:19] <abionnnn> er, if you had read its man page you'd know it says nothing about the logs :P n/m it must be a pkginstall log
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[08:21] <spook> abionnnn: oh you mean /var/log/packages
[08:22] <abionnnn> yeah exactly :P the actual transactions by slackpkg aren't logged, but I'm making do with /var/log/packages
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[08:23] <abionnnn> I seriously screwed up by uncommenting the slackware 13.0 mirror not the slackware64 13.0 mirror
[08:23] <abionnnn> luckily the first thing on the list to be updated was bash
[08:23] <spook> slackpkg just uses pkgtool
[08:23] <spook> it checks the md5 of the package
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[08:26] <abionnnn> abionnnn@mystique:/var/log/packages$ ls *i486* => bash-4.0.024-i486-1
[08:26] Action: abionnnn breathes a sigh of relief
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[08:27] <papajack> I reinstalled vista(again) using the recovery dvd's and tried to install slackware(again). I get the same error, but there's something weird going on with the partitions...Can anyone please check http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-installation-40/problems-installing-slackware-757898/ as I can't paste the entire thing here..
[08:28] <papajack> There are two partitions in vista C:\ and D:\ that's it. I don't know whats the sda1 for...
[08:28] <spook> papajack: error?
[08:29] <papajack> Did you see the link, spook ?
[08:29] <mingdao> papajack: is Vista using the entire disk?
[08:29] <mingdao> and ... are you Daniel?
[08:30] <papajack> yes
[08:30] <papajack> It's installed in c:\ and that partition has about 170gb out of 320
[08:30] <papajack> the rest is in d:\
[08:30] <mingdao> papajack: what did you get from your Google search?
[08:30] <papajack> not much
[08:31] <mingdao> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/bad-partition-after-installing-ubuntu-over-vista-623844/
[08:31] <mingdao> first hit for me
[08:31] <mingdao> we don't install in C:
[08:31] <mingdao> we install in /dev/sdx or /dev/hdx or similar
[08:31] <mingdao> Windows gives you drive letters, such as C:, D:, etc.
[08:31] <papajack> yes
[08:32] <papajack> hm
[08:33] <alisonken1home> and vista does NOT recognize non-MS partitions (at least not Linux partitions)
[08:33] <papajack> am I the first one who tries to dual boot slack and vista?
[08:33] <ccfreak2k> I doubt it.
[08:33] <spook> no
[08:33] <papajack> good.
[08:33] <spook> i've done it very easily
[08:33] <mingdao> papajack: I dual boot Vista and Slack.
[08:34] <papajack> i see
[08:34] <mingdao> papajack: until my warranty expires .. then rm -rf Vista
[08:34] <spook> install vista first :)
[08:34] <Scuzz> lol
[08:34] <papajack> spook, I already have it
[08:34] <papajack> lol mingdao
[08:34] <mingdao> Lenovo won't honor a Slackware OS.
[08:34] <spook> although, install xp or win7 instead of vista
[08:34] <spook> both are better
[08:34] <straterra> xp is not better
[08:34] <spook> yes it is.
[08:34] <papajack> microsoft is a real as$hole
[08:34] <spook> end of story.
[08:35] <papajack> They said if you purchase a pc/notebook until 22october you get win7 for free.
[08:35] <abionnnn> If Lenovo won't honour a Slackware OS, I wouldn't honour Lenovo
[08:35] <straterra> microsoft is a company...
[08:35] <papajack> I subscribed and right near the finish it asked for "shipping" money.
[08:35] <papajack> About 20euros.
[08:35] <abionnnn> Windows 7 and XP are both superior to Vista, in their own ways, though XP is more resource efficient (including Harddrive space O_O)
[08:36] <abionnnn> papajack: sounds like the license fee that microsoft charges them
[08:36] <abionnnn> it costs them a postage stamp to "ship" a CD
[08:36] <straterra> xp is not better than vista
[08:36] <papajack> eh
[08:36] <spook> straterra: yes it is.
[08:36] <abionnnn> Vista sucks
[08:36] <straterra> xp has terrible memory management...terrible threading
[08:36] <spook> straterra: this isnt an argument you'll win.
[08:36] <straterra> no good 64 bit suppport
[08:36] <straterra> craptacular ipv6 stack
[08:36] <mingdao> papajack: I used a Slackware CD1 and partitioned my hard drive with cfdisk FIRST, then rebooted with the Vista DVD and installed Vista, then installed Slackware.
[08:36] <abionnnn> I think you'll find XP 64-bit has plenty of 64-bit support, drivers are a different question
[08:37] <straterra> oh...and isnt getting some security updates
[08:37] <spook> xp64 is really just repackaged server 2003 64
[08:37] <straterra> drivers are a part of support
[08:37] <abionnnn> that's the price of running a Windows OS
[08:37] <papajack> hm
[08:37] <abionnnn> that's why I'm running slackware and OS X
[08:37] <papajack> I tried cfdisk after I installed vista.
[08:37] <mingdao> all your Windows opinions aren't helping papajack get Slackware installed
[08:37] <straterra> vista runs faster on modern hardware than xp
[08:37] <mingdao> straterra: not here it doesn't
[08:37] <abionnnn> straterra: Tried it on this machine, and that is completely false
[08:38] <mingdao> but then, maybe a Core2 Duo isn't "modern" ;)
[08:38] <straterra> then your 'modern' isnt modern
[08:38] <spook> mingdao: we arent here to spoonfeed people, so too bad for him
[08:38] <abionnnn> 2.4GHz, 4gb DDR2 RAM @ 1066
[08:38] <straterra> how did you bench it?
[08:38] <abionnnn> quad core. it sure was modern when I built the machine less than a year ago
[08:38] <papajack> thanks spook.
[08:39] <abionnnn> PCMark, several game demos
[08:39] <straterra> whatever...believe the bs fud...idc any more
[08:39] <abionnnn> all showed 10% less performance on Vista
[08:39] <mingdao> papajack: you'll get better support in your LQ thread
[08:39] <papajack> I hope so...
[08:39] <abionnnn> it also left all kinds of beautiful artifacts from crappy aero
[08:39] <straterra> no one here is required to help
[08:40] <mingdao> papajack: 'benchmark it' ... you won't find anyone aruging which Windows is best
[08:40] <straterra> diw..never had that from any of my vista machines
[08:40] <mingdao> required or capable?
[08:40] <straterra> im out
[08:41] <spook> straterra: xp is better than vista.
[08:41] <abionnnn> Vista was a classic example of code-by-management
[08:41] <abionnnn> and focus groups
[08:42] <alisonken1home> can we take the xp/vista discussion to ##slackofftopic?
[08:42] <yesyes_> 7 looks alright. i've only looked at the screencasts demoing that most important part of an o.s., the task bar, though.
[08:42] <spook> i've used the RTM, its worlds better than vista.
[08:43] <abionnnn> 7 doesn't look as good as slackware 13 though :P
[08:43] <spook> yeah
[08:43] <yesyes_> kde you mean :p
[08:43] <abionnnn> yer ;P
[08:43] <abionnnn> I think microsoft can make its products more compelling by shipping the 64-bit version of windows 7 by default on OEM hardware
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[08:45] <yesyes_> ms can make their os more appealing by using the piratebay as their official distribution channel.
[08:45] <Scuzz> hahah
[08:45] <abionnnn> rofl
[08:45] <abionnnn> aren't they already? :P
[08:46] <Pig_Pen> fuck microsoft
[08:46] <Scuzz> thats was a good laugh to wake me up
[08:46] <Pig_Pen> fuck windows too
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[08:58] Action: blackula likes this article http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
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[09:04] <abionnnn> blackula: good article
[09:05] <blackula> I loved it! Also, had me cracking up!
[09:05] <blackula> It's nicely put.
[09:05] <Scuzz> reminded me i need an oil change
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[09:07] <epple> anybody uses icecast here or is familiar with it?
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[09:12] <alienBOB> epple: icecast runs 24/7 here in the house
[09:13] <epple> alienBOB, i managed to run icecast and ices, but now when i try to connect to stream it requests username and password
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[09:15] <alienBOB> epple: in that case you will have set a password somewhere...
[09:16] <epple> yes, i insert password that is in icecast.conf but its not accepted
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[10:20] <spook> THIRD BALL LOCKED
[10:20] <spook> MULTIBALL
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[10:31] <edman007> spook, stay away from my balls
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[11:12] <E1ephant> lol =) hello
[11:12] <thrice`> lol ?
[11:12] <E1ephant> hellol
[11:13] <thrice`> hi
[11:13] Action: E1ephant installing slackware under virtual box now)
[11:13] <dios_mio> thrice` , are you against lolling?
[11:14] <thrice`> just an interesting greeting
[11:14] <E1ephant> thx ^_^
[11:14] <thrice`> must be an arch user :)
[11:14] <E1ephant> nop. ubuntu user
[11:15] <thrice`> oh, cool ;)
[11:15] <v3gard> anyone here that knows how to use dia? especially in uml modeling?
[11:15] <dios_mio> i use ubuntu too \o/
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[11:19] <superGear> why are ubuntu users in here?
[11:19] <superGear> gee let me join #ubuntu
[11:20] <thrice`> they like to pretend
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[11:22] <Coolmax> superGear, "ubuntu means ..." :)
[11:22] <superGear> crap
[11:22] <superGear> i dunno
[11:22] <budd^> it means I don't have a clue
[11:22] <budd^> :)
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[11:43] <ga_bash> hello guys I compiled 2.6.27.7 on slackware 12.2 and when I booted the new kernel , the kernel boots but it fails to load the modules though the newly compiled modules resides well within /lib/modules/<kernel_version>. any guesses? thanks
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[11:45] <type0> do you need some modules to boot? so maybe you need a new initrd?
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[11:46] <ga_bash> type0, I build a new initrd
[11:47] <type0> mh, ok, strange
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[11:47] <ga_bash> type0, my kernel booted fine gives me a shell too. but not able to load the modules from /lib/modules I guess
[11:48] <type0> why do you guess? is sth similar written in the logs?
[11:48] <ga_bash> type0, it says not able to load the modules . and then not able to mount the file systems
[11:49] <type0> ah, so you'll have to include the filesys-modules in the initrd
[11:49] <ga_bash> type0, ok one question: why's the /etc/rc.d/rc.modules a symlink to /etc/rc.d/rc.modules.2.6.x.x :)
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[11:50] <type0> i dunno ...
[11:50] <type0> ;)
[11:50] <ga_bash> type0, oh I included the mbcache,jbd and ext3 modules in ext3 too in the make of initrd
[11:50] <ga_bash> oh boy..
[11:50] <ga_bash> type0, you could have guessed.. lol
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[11:51] <type0> i guess because there is a new version of rc.mod for every new kernel version ;)
[11:52] <mmlj4> it's so that the rest of your OS can find stuff, regardless of what kernel you have isntalled
[11:52] <type0> but never saw it before, long time since i needed to compile my own kernel... normally the standard suits me ;)
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[11:53] <trollasaurus> Slackware 11.0.0's (and possibly others) patched udev is has this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343671  preventing LVM snapshots from working reliably.  The issue is that UDEV is configured not to ignore LVM partitions (OPTIONS+="ignore_device"), but to delete them (NAME="").  The fix is: KERNEL=="dm-[0-9]*",    NAME=""       should be removed and reverted back to how it was previously:   KERNEL=="dm-[0-9]*",    OPTIONS+="igno
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[11:54] <ga_bash> mmlj4, thanks but then the new kernel's entry has to be linked to /etc/rc.d/rc.modules.?? in order for the kernel to load the modules in /lib/modules?
[11:54] <ga_bash> type0, its okay :)
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[11:55] <mel_> ga_bash, I think I faced the same problem as yours. You may need to copy /etc/rc.d/rc.modules to /etc/rc.d/rc.modules-2.6.27.7
[11:56] <ga_bash> mel_, you mean symlink that to that.:)
[11:56] <ga_bash> mel_, I appreciate that. but what if you compile another kernel .. would you have to be repeating the same procedure over and over again :( ?
[11:57] <mel_> Yes, ga_bash.
[11:57] <ga_bash> mel_, thats cruel :(
[11:57] <ga_bash> mel_, I am used to compiling a new kernel every time I power on my machine. hola :(
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[11:58] <mel_> It depends on how many kernels you want to test booting from.
[11:58] <chopp> ga_bash: you might want to read this: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding#loading_modules_on_boot
[11:58] <ga_bash> mel_, isnt there a way that you dont have to do the symlink thing again and again
[11:58] <alienBOB> trollasaurus: how is that interesting? This was released 3 years ago
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[12:00] <ga_bash> chopp, thanks. I am reading that :)
[12:00] <mel_> ga_bash, will you be symlinking? Its better to simply copy.
[12:02] <trollasaurus> alienBOB, It was released less than 6 months ago.
[12:03] <thrice`> trollasaurus: slackware 11 is very old
[12:03] <trollasaurus> thrice`, And yet new bugs are still being introduced into it.
[12:04] <trollasaurus> thrice`, This bug didn't exist until 6 months ago.
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[12:04] <spook> dont feed.
[12:04] <mancha> is slackware 11 still under some form of official support?
[12:05] <trollasaurus> (And it's likely present in Slackware 10.2, 12.0, 12.1, 12.2, 13.0 and -current)
[12:05] <init[1]> how do we clear the bash history other than flashing it with echo > .bash_history
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[12:05] <alienBOB> I do not really believe anything from someone who has troll as part of his nick
[12:05] <trollasaurus> mancha, It's still receiving patches.  Here's the security notice where the new UDEV was released that introduced the failure: http://www.slackware.com/security/viewer.php?l=slackware-security&y=2009&m=slackware-security.446399
[12:06] <metrofox> :D It's true...
[12:06] <spook> dont feed.
[12:06] <mancha> troll, thanks, i'll read it and take action if i need to
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[12:06] <trollasaurus> alienBOB, I've given you a link to the bug, a link to where the bug was introduced into Slackware 11.0.0, and a means to verify that the bug exists on an arbitrary version of Slackware.  You don't have to believe me, you can verify for yourself.
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[12:06] <alienBOB> trollasaurus: no thanks
[12:07] <metrofox> spook, hey don't worry... I'm feeding nothing... ;)
[12:07] <alienBOB> Contact volkerdi or piterpunk - they are in charge of udev
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[12:13] <alienBOB> trollasaurus: did you actually experience this "udev bug" in Slackware?
[12:14] <trollasaurus> alienBOB, Yes.  As part of my backups I create LVM snapshots of my Xen DomUs.
[12:14] <ga_bash> chopp, I figured . that thanks..it looks for /etc/rc.d/rc.modules-$(uname -r) and then /etc/rc.d/rc.modules. I have them listed there
[12:14] <trollasaurus> And now lvcreate -s  sometimes fails.
[12:15] <alienBOB> trollasaurus: what release, 11.0?
[12:16] <alienBOB> Did you ever check newer Slackware releases than 11.0? Did you ever read /lib/udev/rules.d/64-device-mapper.rules to see how modern Slackware's udev handles things?
[12:16] <trollasaurus> alienBOB, 11.0.0 with all patches applied
[12:17] <alienBOB> As you know, past Slackware releases will not get functional patches - only security patches. You are of course free to modify any Slackware package in an old release if you think an update fixes an issue that you have.
[12:17] <trollasaurus> alienBOB, I tend not upgrade a working machine, other than recommended and security patches.  11.0.0 is still receiving those so I don't see a need to upgrade.
[12:18] <alienBOB> ... or upgrade to a newer release to see if that fixes things for you
[12:18] <trollasaurus> alienBOB, The problem is that one of the security updates broke something by changing the behaviour.
[12:18] <trollasaurus> alienBOB, This wasn't an issue before a "fixed" udev was released.
[12:19] <alienBOB> trollasaurus: on my older machines (I run as far back as 10.0) I also had to update software myself. You are not restricted to  use just that which shows up in /patches
[12:19] <alienBOB> You can of course email Pat and tell him that this patched udev broke functionality
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[12:20] <trollasaurus> alienBOB, I am in the process of, once again, flaming Pat.
[12:20] <alienBOB> Just do not use "trollosaurus" if you write - you will get ignored
[12:20] <alienBOB> Ah, flaming...
[12:20] <trollasaurus> I typically send work related email from my .mil.
[12:20] <mancha> is the policy on no functional upgrades for minors as well as majors? i.e. say 13.1 is released in 6 months, does that mean 13.0 bugs found beyond 6 months are 100% on the user?
[12:20] <alienBOB> You'll be ignored already then
[12:21] <alienBOB> mancha: functional upgrades are called "slackware-current' ....
[12:21] <mancha> so is that a no?
[12:21] <trollasaurus> alienBOB, He fixed the last issue I complained about (which was also dismissed when I discussed it in this channel)
[12:21] <thrice`> I'd send your mail; some people just hate to admit slackware has bugs :)
[12:22] <mancha> slackware-current is a rolling snapshot of the current version, what i am interested in is the situation of someone running 13.0
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[12:22] <pprkut> thrice`: there are NO bugs!!!!11111
[12:22] <thrice`> omg
[12:22] <pprkut> :P
[12:22] <ga_bash> hello the /etc/rc.modules-<version> exists but the kernel is not loading it at the boot time.
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[12:23] <thrice`> ga_bash: rc.modules isn't really responsible for all of the modules; udev does loading by itself
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[12:23] <alienBOB> trollasaurus: that is why I said, send your findings in an email
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[12:23] <ga_bash> thrice`, but it isnt loading the modules at all :(
[12:23] <thrice`> which modules?
[12:23] <pprkut> ga_bash: you should see at boot time why rc.modules is used
[12:23] <pprkut> s/why/which/
[12:24] <trollasaurus> alienBOB, I will.  Would you like me to CC you ?
[12:24] <alienBOB> No need to
[12:24] <ga_bash> pprkut, it says "No kernel modules found"
[12:24] <trollasaurus> Roger.
[12:25] <thrice`> ga_bash: did you install your new modules?
[12:25] <pprkut> ga_bash: uhm, na. That's something different
[12:25] <ga_bash> thrice`, yes
[12:25] <thrice`> how ?
[12:25] <alisonken1home> ga_bash: what does "uname -a" show?
[12:25] <ga_bash> thrice`, make modules_install
[12:25] <ga_bash> in the target Makefile
[12:25] <thrice`> did you remove the modules that slackware already put there?
[12:26] <thrice`> or, apply a new prefix to the kernel ?
[12:26] <ga_bash> alisonken1home, Linux 2.6.27.7 smp
[12:26] <alisonken1home> ga_bash: then show what "ls -d /lib/modules/$(uname -r)" show?
[12:26] <ga_bash> thrice`, no dint remove the modules. they are intact in /lib/modules/<kernel_version>
[12:26] <pprkut> ga_bash: it should be something like "Running /etc/rc.d/rc.modules-<version>"
[12:27] <ga_bash> pprkut, indeed
[12:27] <ga_bash> alisonken1home, it shows nothing
[12:28] <ga_bash> my kernel version is suffixed with smp. and the one that shows here is not smp
[12:28] <ga_bash> though with my original kernel it shows two subdirectories
[12:28] <ga_bash> both the smp and the non-smp
[12:29] <pprkut> ga_bash: so, does it show the version of the kernel it's booting in there or not?
[12:29] <ga_bash> pprkut, it shows yes
[12:30] <ga_bash> pprkut, I think I have fucked up somewhere
[12:31] <pprkut> ga_bash: so it's using the correct script, then something else is going wrong
[12:31] <pprkut> do the modules load if you do modprobe manually?
[12:31] <ga_bash> pprkut, no
[12:32] <thrice`> you compiled the same version as the stock kernel, right?
[12:32] <ga_bash> pprkut, now I booted my original kernel and it says uname -a that its smp
[12:32] <ga_bash> thrice`, yes
[12:32] <alisonken1home> ga_bash: your "full" uname -r and the directory name have to match. usually, the kernle is named "smp-2.6.27.7-smp", then you have to have a "/lib/modules/smp-2.6.27.7-smp" directory as well
[12:33] <ga_bash> alisonken1home, there's /lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/ there as well
[12:33] <pprkut> alisonken1home: are you sure there isn't one smp too much in there? Never had smp-version-smp....
[12:33] <ga_bash> alisonken1home, but when I boot the new kernel it doesnt show in that directory
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[12:34] <alisonken1home> if what you posted is any indication - there's a space between the number and smp. that would be an issue
[12:34] <ga_bash> alisonken1home, there's no space
[12:34] <thrice`> what does uname -a say ?
[12:34] <ga_bash> thrice`, smp
[12:34] <oorah> what if slackware went GUI to where there is no need to use the command line and with a netbook looking interface? just a fun thought
[12:34] <ga_bash> thrice`, I mean all with smp
[12:34] <thrice`> no, I said uname -a
[12:34] <alisonken1home> ga_bash: in that case, your lib/modules directory has a dash between the numbers and your uname -r doesn't have a dash. same issue.
[12:35] <thrice`> indeed
[12:35] <ga_bash> thrice`, since the modules dont load so's not gpm. so i can t capture the output from the VM
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[12:35] <ga_bash> alisonken1home, no one has a dash..
[12:35] <ga_bash> alisonken1home, how can a dash crop up by itself.
[12:35] <alisonken1home> what you posted shows a dash in the /lib/modules directory
[12:35] <thrice`> you pasted it ga_bash
[12:35] <ga_bash> alisonken1home, oh I typed that manually
[12:36] <oorah> i guess no one liked my idea lol
[12:36] <ga_bash> thrice`, I typed it manually for a reason
[12:37] <thrice`> ok, but here's the thing, typos make a huge difference!  make sure you type it correctly
[12:37] <ga_bash> I think I have totally fucked up due to compiling the kernel from the same source . I am going to get a new kernel source to get that to have a difference
[12:37] <pprkut> oorah: kde 4.4 has a netbook interface. Once that is in Slackware, you'll have it too
[12:37] <ga_bash> thrice`, I will take care of it in future :) thanks
[12:37] <oorah> i'm downloading linpus right now
[12:37] <thrice`> ga_bash: anyway, you are sure your uname output matches the modules directory in /lib/modules/ ?
[12:37] <alisonken1home> ga_bash: as noted, if you did "ls -ld /lib/modules/$(uame -r)" and it returned a blank, then there is no module directory that has the same version as your kernel
[12:38] <ga_bash> alisonken1home,  here's a twist. when I boot my original kernel there's a directory as 2.6.27.7-smp. but when I boot the new kernel there's no directory as 2.6.27.7-smp in /lib/modules/
[12:39] <ga_bash> although I have two directories in /lib/modules/
[12:39] <ga_bash> one with smp and I without smp
[12:39] <ga_bash> all right guys I am beginning to have some idea where I may have screwed up the things
[12:39] <thrice`> you REALLY should relable instead of overwriting pre-existing directories
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[12:40] <ga_bash> thrice`, well nothing seems to have been pre-written If I am not mistaken
[12:40] <ga_bash> s/pre/over
[12:40] <alisonken1home> ga_bash: and as thrice` noted, when you recompile the kernel and it has the same version as the original kernel, you should also add a localversion that's different than the default so you can verify your setup
[12:40] <thrice`> the slackware modules package surely did, if you didn't change the name
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[12:41] <ga_bash> thrice`, yes thats probable
[12:42] <alisonken1home> actually, when you recompile the kernel, you should be changing the localversion to show it's your kernel and not the stock kernel anyways
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[12:46] <superGear> distro[Slackware 13.0.0.0.0]
[12:47] <superGear> 2.6.31-slack
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[12:54] <alisonken1home> ok - time to upgrade the home system
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[13:04] <agentc0re> mornin all
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[13:05] <compgenius999> hey agentc0re
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[13:12] <hitest> sluttyduck: love the nick:) good morning
[13:12] <agentc0re> hitest: did you see the pic's?
[13:13] <agentc0re> i think the swelling increased over night.
[13:13] <hitest> pics?!
[13:13] <hitest> oh...your knee
[13:13] <agentc0re> hitest: you wanted to see my knee, remmeber?
[13:13] <agentc0re> my knee.  http://imagebin.org/65293  http://imagebin.org/65294
[13:13] <hitest> yes, I remember. no, I didn't see the pics
[13:13] <hitest> click
[13:14] <hitest> ouch....that looks painful!
[13:15] <agentc0re> So today it more looks like a tennis ball is in my knee.
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[13:17] <Scuzz> uhg
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[13:18] <Scuzz> what happend ?
[13:18] <hitest> agentc0re: are you able to walk?
[13:18] <agentc0re> hard skydive landing yesterday.
[13:19] <agentc0re> hitest: ya.  slowly.  :P  it's not that painful to be honest.
[13:19] <agentc0re> i just can't bend my knee very well.... Imagine that. :P
[13:19] <Scuzz> lol
[13:19] <hitest> agentc0re: good to hear. I hope that ice and beer therapy gives you a speedy recovery.
[13:19] <Scuzz> lucky it bends at all
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[13:21] <bruc3> )
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[13:22] <agentc0re> hitest: I think the beer will help more :P  heheh.
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[13:22] <hitest> agentc0re: agreed. it certainly can't hurt:)
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[13:34] <mancha> if any devs are around, slack's gnutls is borked
[13:34] <LnxSlck> hello happy slackers
[13:34] <daidoji> how so?
[13:35] <daidoji> not that i'm a dev
[13:35] <metrofox> hi LnxSlck
[13:35] <LnxSlck> metrofox, hello there
[13:35] <mancha> it has broken security verification, it's been fixed upstream, slack needs to issue a security patch
[13:35] <LnxSlck> mancha, straterra , alienBOB , []
[13:36] <LnxSlck> Dominian, []
[13:36] <daidoji> mancha, well then patch that shit and submit
[13:36] <thrice`> er, Dominian nor straterra are devs O.o
[13:36] <daidoji> this is open source baby
[13:36] <daidoji> doers are much better than complainers
[13:37] <mancha> dai, i keep my system up to date, i was merely relaying this as a public service announcement
[13:37] <daidoji> although odds are you can just download the new ver, modify the slackbuild, check your dependencies, and build again
[13:37] <daidoji> word, do you know about slack-security mailing list?
[13:37] <mancha> yes, can you submit to the list or is it read-only?
[13:37] <daidoji> whatever its called?  Cause that mailing list is full of the people to notify
[13:38] <daidoji> you should be able to notify the person in charge of the list
[13:38] <thrice`> slackware's gnutls is a major version behind anyway
[13:38] <sahko> mancha: are you sure? i find that quite often dont include the features affected by those issues. which vulnerability exactly?
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[13:38] <daidoji> and i assume they would be quickest at fixing
[13:38] <sahko> /s//slackware packages dont include..
[13:38] <mancha> sahko, i am sure
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[13:39] <sahko> slackware-security is of course read only
[13:39] <sahko> you should mail Pat
[13:39] <sahko> but which issue exactly are you talking about?
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[13:39] <mancha> certificates are not validated properly, they're treated as C-style strings
[13:39] <mancha> you can go to gnutls and the changelog will describe the issues.
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[13:41] <Keiffer> sorry, disconnected
[13:41] <Keiffer> what navigation software can i use on linux? like igo or so..
[13:41] <sahko> mancha: are those security issues? eg does this issue have a http://cve.mitre.org/ entry?
[13:41] <mancha> daidoji, calling folks complainers is not going to promote sharing of this sort of information though - i would assume most people would like to be informed.
[13:42] <daidoji> o sorry
[13:42] <daidoji> i didn't mean to say it in a negative way
[13:42] <trollasaurus> It does have a CVE entry.
[13:42] <mancha> CVE-2009-2730
[13:42] <sahko> cause if it doesnt, its just an update. its common new releases to fix the bugs of the previous ones
[13:42] <daidoji> just trying to encourage people submitting patches to OS projects :-p
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[13:42] <trollasaurus> It's a definite security issue... I thought it was fixed in Slackware already :-P
[13:43] <spook> trollasaurus: you still here?
[13:44] <trollasaurus> spook, Yes.
[13:44] <sahko> mancha: best you can do is to email volkerdi@slackware.com
[13:44] <Pig_Pen> trollasaurus: cool nick :D
[13:44] <spook> email pat, or shut up.
[13:44] <spook> there is no third option
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[13:45] <trollasaurus> There are infinite options, it's silly to believe that I am constrained to so few choices in life.
[13:46] <Pig_Pen> http://www.woostercollective.com/steamrollerwarden.jpg
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[13:47] <spook> trollasaurus: how could i be so narrow minded
[13:48] <spook> there IS a third option
[13:48] <spook> piss people off enough that you get banned
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[13:49] <trollasaurus> There's really no downside to that for me.
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[13:55] <fire|bird> Greetings everyone. :)
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[13:56] <Pig_Pen> hiya fire|bird
[13:56] <mancha> ugh, saturday' are always bad connection days it seems
[13:56] <fire|bird> Hi Pig_Pen, how are you?
[13:56] <fire|bird> mancha: Mine was crappy yesterday, was out a good chunk of last night too.
[13:56] <Pig_Pen> doing good! how are you doing fire|bird
[13:57] <fire|bird> I am doing excellent, thank you.
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[13:58] <ercula> hey guys, i've recently installed slackware 13 x86_64 on my laptop, my keyboard doesnt work in x, it works fine in console, i have tried external and no luck. any thoughts? thanks
[13:59] <Keiffer> do you know a road map, with POIs for linux? a software like igo, tomtom or so...
[13:59] <mancha> doesn't work means zilch or messed up keymappings? what kind of kb, lb-layout?
[14:00] <ercula> its a us kb, i belive intel, its on a toshiba satellite a505-26960
[14:00] <ercula> not working at all
[14:00] <trollasaurus> Keiffer, Open Street Map
[14:00] <Pig_Pen> i bet that "AllowEmptyInput" "False" in xorg.conf will fix that
[14:00] <thrice`> you're not using a xorg.conf, are you ?
[14:00] <ercula> nope
[14:00] <fire|bird> Hey thrice`, how's it going?
[14:00] <thrice`> good, you fire|bird ?
[14:01] <mancha> keiffer, have you seen merkaator (sp?)
[14:01] <thrice`> ercula: did you do a full install of slackware ?  mainly, x/ ?
[14:01] <fire|bird> thrice`: great, I've been using xfce lately, but I found a VERY nice speed increase in kde by changing plasma's graphicssystem. :D
[14:01] <ercula> yes
[14:01] <mancha> ercula, hrmm, that is odd - zero functionality?
[14:02] <ercula> yeah
[14:02] <thrice`> hm, hald + the evdev driver should take care of it all :(
[14:02] <trollasaurus> Keiffer, Err, that data with Maemo Mapper
[14:03] <mancha> is there a maemo port to linux? last i knew it was closed and only ran on maemo
[14:03] <ercula> maybe ill try instaling again
[14:03] <Keiffer> mancha, nope. i haven't saw merkaator.
[14:03] <Keiffer> the thing is i want o software that can work offline
[14:03] <thrice`> ercula: noo, bad idea :)  does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log  say anything after you load X ?
[14:03] <Keiffer> i had this version of igo pc but it's very buggy
[14:03] <Keiffer> and for windows platforms
[14:04] <trollasaurus> mancha, Maemo Mapper is GPL, and Maemo is Linux.
[14:04] <nix_chixor> waddup\
[14:04] <ercula> not sure, im not using slackware right now, i could check
[14:05] <mancha> maemo is a linux that is compiled for arm, i thought m-m was closed source and so only available a arm binaries
[14:05] <mancha> do you have a link to maemo mapper source?
[14:05] <trollasaurus> mancha, It's always been open.  Maybe you're thinking of Wayfinder, the GPS software that comes with the Nokia N810 ?
[14:06] <mancha> oh might be thinking of wayfinder actually, comes on the n810 or the n800 if you add an extrernal gps device (i guess)
[14:06] <mancha> anywho, do you have a link to the source
[14:06] <trollasaurus> I have a link to the Git repo...
[14:06] <engrxyz> hi. any tips on how to replace grub with lilo?
[14:06] <trollasaurus> git clone https://git.maemo.org/projects/maemo-mapper
[14:06] <ercula> thanks for the ideas, im going to see if i can figure it out, ill be back later with results
[14:06] <mancha> thanks.
[14:07] <spook> engrxyz: just stick with lilo from the start.
[14:07] <engrxyz> i got grub from the start and i want it to be replace with lilo
[14:07] <spook> engrxyz: if you're using slackware you will be on lilo from the start.
[14:07] <mancha> engrxyz lilo config is quite straighforward...look up a tutorial for some dsample configs, translate your grub config to lilo speak and then run lilo
[14:08] <spook> or just use liloconfig
[14:08] <engrxyz> gosh right but hmm i'm starting with rhel 5.x
[14:08] <engrxyz> sows
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[14:08] <fire|bird> hey nix_chixor, how are you?
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[14:09] <mancha> engrx, so you need to look at the grub config you have, and translate that to an equivalent lilo config (in lilo speak).
[14:09] <trollasaurus> I like Wayfinder better than Maemo Mapper, a lot of it had to do with the way POIs were handled.
[14:10] <engrxyz> that's my problem though
[14:10] <engrxyz> how to translate it
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[14:10] <mancha> i suggest reading some lilo howto...lilo is easy. if you are not familiar with grub syntax then you might need to read a grub howto, too
[14:11] <engrxyz> yeah lilo is easy can configure it with my eyes close
[14:11] <agentc0re> http://www.speedtest.net/result/575580092.png
[14:11] <fire|bird> y0 agentc0re
[14:11] <engrxyz> but with grub, it's just like masturbating my dick with a condom
[14:11] <engrxyz> can't feel grub
[14:11] Action: fire|bird steals agentc0re's connection. :D
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[14:13] <agentc0re> howdy. :D
[14:13] <trollasaurus> Keiffer, I think Maemo Mapper can take the maps offline.  It can definitely cache them to disk.  It couldn't take the POIs offline when I looked at it last.
[14:13] <fire|bird> agentc0re: You're speed is about double what mine is. :P
[14:14] <fire|bird> and probably actually stays connected. :P
[14:14] <Scuzz> double ?
[14:14] <fire|bird> yeah
[14:14] <Scuzz> jesus
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[14:15] <fire|bird> He's getting 22.91 Down, I get around 11.40 Down
[14:15] <Scuzz> my speed test only showed 2.33 mb/s download
[14:15] <fire|bird> haha
[14:15] <fire|bird> what the heck speed are you on?
[14:15] <Scuzz> cable
[14:15] <Pig_Pen> http://www.speedtest.net/result/575582914.png
[14:15] <fire|bird> no offense, but your cable sucks. :P
[14:15] <Scuzz> its actually quite good down here
[14:16] <agentc0re> fire|bird: hehe.  i could get a 40Mb as well.  :P
[14:16] <fire|bird> HOLY
[14:16] <Pig_Pen> no offence taken, this is hillbilly town usa where i live so i am lucky to get that
[14:16] <fire|bird> When my Internet is actually working, I can't complain, when it isn't, I'm pissed. :P
[14:16] <agentc0re> i am waiting out until the infrastructure gets larger.  they will be bringing in 100Mb with in 2 years.
[14:17] <agentc0re> so 40Mb will be cheaper, and the upspead then will be larger.
[14:17] <jeev> Pig_Pen, hillbilly enough where the people think obama is the anti-christ and palin is jesus ?
[14:17] <rk4n3> hey, that's where I live
[14:17] <fire|bird> agentc0re: Just West of where I'm at, they're running a fiber optic line to a city office north of here. :P
[14:17] <jeev> heh
[14:17] Action: jeev kicks rk4n3
[14:17] <rk4n3> haha
[14:18] <jeev> anyone using kvm ?
[14:18] <rk4n3> I am, but you just kicked me, so I may not be in the mood to help  ...
[14:18] <rk4n3> haha jk :)
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[14:18] <jeev> oh my jesus, i cant believe i installed slack on a freebsd server, then modprobe for kvm, no hardware support
[14:18] <jeev> bah
[14:18] <jeev> im so annoyed
[14:18] <jeev> i should probably go to the office and set it up on the box there.
[14:18] <thrice`> lol, such a noob
[14:18] <spook> jeev: yeah me
[14:18] <Scuzz> k ohio server gave me 5.8 mbs
[14:18] <jeev> i was tired last night
[14:19] <jeev> spook, i was just trying to figure out if you had a /lib/modules/2.6.29.6/kernel/arch/ 64 folder in there
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[14:19] <jeev> jesus im an idiot.
[14:19] <jeev> kvm: no hardware support
[14:19] <thrice`> yeah
[14:19] <jeev> bite me thrice`!
[14:19] <trollasaurus> jeev, Xen!
[14:19] <deco> http://www.speedtest.net/result/575586409.png
[14:19] <spook> i have an x86 folder in there
[14:19] <jeev> no i want to try kvm
[14:20] <spook> trollasaurus: kvm > xen
[14:20] <trollasaurus> spook, KVM requires hardware support.
[14:20] <jeev> that's fine, i have serveras with hardware support
[14:20] <jeev> i just forgot ;)
[14:20] <spook> trollasaurus: yeah exactly.
[14:20] <jeev> maybe i'll try xen on the slack box to try to get it going there, without the need ofd ebian again
[14:21] <spook> almost all machines have hardware support these days
[14:21] <trollasaurus> spook, Xen's PV does not, though its HVM can take advantage of it to run non-PV VMs if hardware support is present.
[14:21] <spook> jeev: dont bother trying to get xen working on slackware. trust me.
[14:21] <trollasaurus> spook, Tell that to jeev.
[14:21] <rk4n3> qemu doesn't require hardware support, though - and it works well enough, seeing as if you don
[14:21] <trollasaurus> Uh, Xen is trivial to run on Slackware.
[14:22] <rk4n3> t have hardware support, software is all you're going to get anyway
[14:22] <Scuzz> fire|bird, still here ?
[14:22] <trollasaurus> I've used Xen on Slackware for about 5 years.
[14:22] <spook> trollasaurus: i like to not be limited to my kernel choice
[14:22] <trollasaurus> My Slackware 11.0.0 Dom0 has almost 2 years of uptime.
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[14:23] <rk4n3> that's more a testament to slackware than xen
[14:23] <spook> xen is a bitch to setup on slackware.
[14:23] <rk4n3> ... VMware VMs running slackware can boast similar uptimes - I have some clients that have over 3 years uptime on those
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[14:23] <spook> rk4n3: try kvm with virtual machine manager + libvirt
[14:23] <rk4n3> kvm is still > though
[14:24] <rk4n3> spook:  already into it :)
[14:24] <rk4n3> all my newer stuff is kvm-based
[14:24] <trollasaurus> spook, Not really, you just download Xen from xen.org and compile it.  It includes the kernel and userspace tools.  I literally have a script that does that and builds a Slackware package from the result.
[14:24] <spook> trollasaurus: last time i tried to set it up on slackware was 3 years ago
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[14:25] <trollasaurus> You were doing something very wrong if you had to do anything beyond "make world" (except perhaps configuring the Dom0 and DomU kernel config)
[14:26] <jeev> trollasaurus, you need grub, right
[14:26] <spook> the documentation was entirely unhelpful
[14:27] <thrice`> i've never tried f-bsd
[14:27] <trollasaurus> jeev, No, you can use EXTLINUX
[14:27] <jeev> thrice`, your loss!
[14:27] <thrice`> it doesn't have things like flash
[14:27] <trollasaurus> (Part of SYSLINUX, which comes with Slackware)
[14:27] <thrice`> and tell me mounting a 32-bit linux userspace just to run flash is a solution
[14:28] <thrice`> don't tell me *
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[14:28] <jeev> you suck
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[14:28] <mancha> is the xen hypervisor any good? relative to options like kvm which provides near native performance
[14:28] <spook> thrice`: that sounds like an improvement, not having flash
[14:28] <thrice`> but how can I watch funny youtube videos?
[14:28] <thrice`> like jeev's mom kicking him in the nuts
[14:29] <spook> thrice`: wait 12 months for flash to die.
[14:29] <rk4n3> definitely a performance improvement for firefox, but a lot of content will be missing - its the curse of the world falling in love with flash
[14:29] <thrice`> indeed
[14:29] <pupit> guys, does anyone know some forum, site or blog with some howto for msi gx600x notebook on slackware or any kind of linux on it?
[14:29] <spook> html 5 = death of flash
[14:29] <jeev> nobody can thrice`, there isn't a video out there like that
[14:29] <adamk_> Hahahah...  Flash dying in 12 months..  That's funny.
[14:30] <Skywise> is there a linux/foss version of silverlight or a player for it?
[14:30] <thrice`> while I do hate flash, and even more like the idea of not having it installed, it's pretty critical sadly
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[14:30] <rk4n3> pupit:  can't you just figure out what the hardware is, see if its all compatible, and just go with it ?
[14:31] <pupit> rk4n3: thats an alternative..
[14:31] <trollasaurus> spook, http://www.rkeene.org/viewer/tmp/build_kernel.sh.htm
[14:31] <spook> trollasaurus: i dont care, i'm happy with kvm
[14:32] <rk4n3> pupit:  that would be my first angle :)  If you run into specific problems, then you might be able to get help in here ...
[14:33] <pupit> rk4n3: and right now, im thinking about doing that... problem is that, that laptop has some device manager app built for vista which enables all the buttons etc and that would be painful for me... :)
[14:33] <pupit> ...doing all that acpi stuff..
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[14:33] <trollasaurus> I don't run Xen on any machine that supports hardware virtualization at the moment, actually :-P
[14:33] <rk4n3> ah, its very possible all that won'
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[14:33] <rk4n3> t work under linux
[14:33] <trollasaurus> I am going to be getting a PogoLinux Atlas 5802 soon, though
[14:33] <spook> i dont have any machines that dont have hardware virt support.
[14:33] <rk4n3> ... you may have to decide how important those "glitzy" things are
[14:34] <spook> oh, i lie, my router and eeepc dont have it
[14:34] <rk4n3> I wouldn't let any of those fancy buttons stop me from running slack
[14:35] <trollasaurus> Neither of my colocated servers do, and I pretty much only have SunRays at the house
[14:35] <pupit> rk4n3: it wont stop me either.. its for my buddy i already run slack on pc and eeepc..
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[14:35] <rk4n3> pupit:  ah
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[14:37] <pupit> spook: have u tried 13v slack on eeepc already?
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[14:38] <spook> pupit: i've had it for a while
[14:38] <spook> works really well
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[14:39] <mancha> rk4n3 you know, i miss out on content, but my surfing experience is much more pleasant w/o flash
[14:39] <fire|bird> Scuzz: Yeah, I was afk for a bit.
[14:40] <mancha> i mean, when the flashblock plug-in gets 100 stars from you, you know something is wrong.
[14:40] <pupit> spook: some stuff runs better then on 12.2 or...
[14:41] <spook> pupit: no complaints
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[14:41] <pupit> spook: ;)
[14:42] <pupit> i'll put on my eee as soon i have more time..
[14:42] <mancha> spook, you have slack on your eeepc, right? do you have a howto for that? did you do much tweaking to save the ssd from write-cycle failure?
[14:44] <spook> mancha: theres no howto needed
[14:44] <spook> install like you would any other machine
[14:45] <mancha> i use a dvd :)
[14:45] <spook> by the time the ssd fails i'll be ready to get a new netbook
[14:45] <thrice`> then use the usb :>
[14:45] <spook> i use pxe.
[14:45] <mancha> thice/spook  *nod*
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[14:45] <mancha> what're ssd's spec'd at for write cycles these days?
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[14:47] <suid0> folks.. simple question. Is it going to work if I use my slack 12.2 dvd to boot and then install slack64 over network?
[14:47] <thrice`> no
[14:47] <thrice`> simple question, simple answer ?
[14:47] <spook> suid0: very very very very very no
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[14:48] <thrice`> normally it would, but slackware 13 has a new package format
[14:48] <spook> i cant express how much that wont work
[14:48] <suid0> I could create a boot disk.. but.. argh.. let me do that then..
[14:48] <mancha> suid, if you are going to be dl'ing anyways, why not dl isos?
[14:49] <suid0> mancha: I keep slack tree rsynced
[14:49] <spook> me too
[14:49] <spook> just pxe
[14:50] <spook> or use the usb boot image
[14:50] <suid0> just came to my mind.. I guess I have a boot disk somewhere
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[14:51] <Skywise> http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/tools/usbinstall/13.0/
[14:51] <spook> erm
[14:51] <Skywise> check that out, it makes a bootabl usb drive
[14:51] <suid0> heh.. found my iso
[14:52] <spook> usb-and-pxe-installers/README_USB.TXT
[14:52] <spook> Skywise: in the slackware package tree.
[14:52] <Skywise> that only lets you boot from usb, then you pic your media from somewhere else
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[14:52] <Skywise> my link lets you boot and use the same drive for the media
[14:52] <Skywise> it only takes a 4gb usb drive for everything
[14:53] <mancha> Skywise does the bios pick up the usb as a hd-usb?
[14:53] <pupit> mancha: there is a good howto..
[14:53] <Skywise> i haven't tried it, but i would presume so
[14:54] <pupit> http://www.codekoala.com/blog/2008/installing-slackware-122-your-eeepc-701-4g-my-case/
[14:54] <mancha> Skywise, yes, i also presume so. i am going to investigate later on.
[14:55] <mancha> pupit, thanks! might end up getting one of these little e^3s one of these days
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[14:55] <pupit> np
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[15:24] <Camarade_Tux> evening! :)
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[15:26] <spook> gday
[15:26] <phoenix^> afternoon Camarade_Tux :)
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[15:29] <x1user> Hi all, how to disable sshd by default ?
[15:29] <john_dee> dang. ##windows channel is so much fun :D
[15:29] <john_dee> x1user: chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd
[15:30] <phoenix^> y0 john_dee
[15:30] <john_dee> whazup phoenix^
[15:30] <fabsc> i've just realized that the command prompt in slackware does not indent if i print a line without EOL character in terminal. for example i cannot see 1234 when echo -n "1234". how to fix that?
[15:30] <x1user> do you guys got a lot of false login attempts trough ssh in /var/log/messages
[15:30] <john_dee> x1user: not really
[15:30] <slava_dp> fabsc, there is nothing to fix.
[15:31] <Camarade_Tux> phoenix^: hey :)
[15:31] <x1user> john_dee: but it happens?
[15:31] Action: Camarade_Tux got a bed \o/ 
[15:31] <metriccwrench> x1user: I have seen them, like from a script just trying tons of names
[15:31] <phoenix^> john_dee: Not much, just on the laptop atm. I got kde sped up quite a bit. :)
[15:31] <slava_dp> x1user, use denyhosts, fail2ban or iptables.
[15:31] <Camarade_Tux> phoenix^: got my message about the bcm4312?
[15:31] <john_dee> x1user: when you enter the wrong password, yes :)
[15:31] <x1user> yeah indeed
[15:31] <phoenix^> Camarade_Tux: you didn't have one before? :P
[15:31] <fabsc> slava_dp: so how to make the prompt indent so i can see the result?
[15:31] <metriccwrench> I moved it to a non-default port
[15:31] <x1user> slava_dp: do you got good list
[15:31] <phoenix^> Camarade_Tux: message? nope.
[15:32] <x1user> acctually this is my laptop i dont even need ssh
[15:32] <john_dee> phoenix^: nice. i've been playing around with haiku a bit. very lightweight. me likes
[15:32] <phoenix^> john_dee: Hmm, never heard of haiku :P
[15:32] <slava_dp> fabsc, if you do not output eol, the prompt will not indent. that's normal.
[15:32] <Camarade_Tux> 14:45  Camarade_Tux : I'm half there, about the bcm4312, you have to build a kernel module (hopefully it's against 2.6.29 which is slackware13's kernel :) ), the patch  doesn't properly apply but everything works fine anyway ( >< )
[15:32] <Camarade_Tux> 14:45  Camarade_Tux : also, don't forget to not have b43 and b43_legacy (the modules)
[15:32] <phoenix^> john_dee: I gained speed by changing plasma's graphics system. :D
[15:32] <x1user> I got another strange problem, i need to unmount and remount my windows partition each boot time
[15:33] <phoenix^> Camarade_Tux: cool.
[15:33] <x1user> /dev/sda2        /mnt/hd/win      ntfs-3g     umask=007        1   0
[15:33] <deco> phoenix^: you still messing with kde :P
[15:33] <slava_dp> x1user, why do you have to remount it?
[15:34] <phoenix^> deco: yeah, and man is it fast now. :D
[15:34] <x1user> other wise it got no permissions =/
[15:34] <deco> phoenix^: sure sure
[15:34] <deco> phoenix^: still using xfce ?
[15:34] <john_dee> phoenix^: it's an opensource rebirth of BeOS
[15:34] <fabsc> slava_dp: afaik, only slackware acts like that, other distros will make the prompt indent.
[15:34] <metriccwrench> x1user: is that the right umask setting?
[15:34] <john_dee> phoenix^: what's up with xfce. you had it on last screenies
[15:35] <slava_dp> fabsc, not a distro problem. it's bash that does it.
[15:35] <x1user> metriccwrench: I am not sure, i doubt about that.
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[15:35] <meatbun> is it just me or what? i been experiencing lots of firefox-grayed-out, and can't move until firefox finish loading.
[15:35] <deco> meatbun: just you
[15:35] <x1user> but i do just umount /dev/sda2 | ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt/hd/win and works
[15:35] <slava_dp> fabsc, /join #bash and ask them.
[15:35] <phoenix^> deco: yeah, but still messing with kde. it is SO fast now. :P
[15:35] <fabsc> slava_dp: ok, thanks
[15:36] <meatbun> deco, i think it's because of newer version of firefox sucks
[15:36] <deco> phoenix^: nothing will replace my precious 3.5 :P
[15:36] <deco> meatbun: no it's you
[15:36] <meatbun> no it's not
[15:37] <x1user> slava_dp: LOL :D
[15:37] <phoenix^> deco: hahaha, Well this speed improvement is amazing, you might like it. However, on the desktop, Kontact won't work now. :P
[15:37] <spook> i'm getting tired...
[15:37] <deco> meatbun: live in denial
[15:37] <deco> phoenix^: hahaha not much of an improvement than :P
[15:38] <phoenix^> deco: I think it's an issue I created when upgrading, or maybe something's missing. Kmail itself works, just kontact won't. But, I use claws anyway, so....... :P
[15:39] <meatbun> deco, thanks for the tip. coming from a first hand source ;)
[15:39] <deco> phoenix^: ok :P , I am going to use alpine again
[15:39] <phoenix^> deco: xfce, on my pc's though, would be the speed king. :)
[15:40] <deco> phoenix^: a speed freak :D
[15:40] <phoenix^> deco: Exactly, I'm ALWAYS looking for speed. :D
[15:40] <deco> phoenix^: same here :)
[15:40] <fire|bird> deco: If it's not fast as lightning, it needs to be improved. :P
[15:41] <deco> fire|bird: exactly, what have 4 hands ? lol
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[15:41] <deco> you have*
[15:41] <fire|bird> This is what an strace of kontact gives: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/UEi99f11.html
[15:41] <fire|bird> deco: Not yet, but working on it. :P
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[15:41] <fire|bird> deco: the surgery's expensive. :P
[15:42] <fire|bird> j/k of course
[15:42] <deco> fire|bird: you borked it really good :P
[15:42] <Camarade_Tux> two firebirds/phoenixes, we're doomed! run for your lives!
[15:42] <fire|bird> Hey now, don't blame the bird.
[15:42] <fire|bird> lol
[15:42] <deco> aren't bird's brains really small ?
[15:42] <fire|bird> Camarade_Tux: Got that browser done yet. I've been using chromium lately.
[15:43] <deco> Camarade_Tux: you're making a browser ?
[15:43] <fire|bird> deco: Don't you have a theme to go work on? :P
[15:43] <deco> fire|bird: yes lol
[15:43] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: nope, being homeless doesn't help ;p
[15:43] <deco> lagging
[15:43] <fire|bird> homeless? wtf happened?
[15:43] <Camarade_Tux> but I'm working on it, I need to add features to another project of mine first before I can use dbus as I wish to
[15:43] <fire|bird> Did the girl get THAT pissed at ya? :P
[15:43] <Camarade_Tux> deco: based on webkit-gtk
[15:43] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: nah, just moved
[15:43] <deco> Camarade_Tux:  nice :D, you can live in my house if you want
[15:44] <fire|bird> Ah, cool. How's the move going? or how'd it go?
[15:44] <Camarade_Tux> bigger, better place, a bit cheaper...
[15:44] <Camarade_Tux> deco: and your bed? :P
[15:44] <fire|bird> nice
[15:44] <fire|bird> OHGOD
[15:44] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: now I need a fridge ;)
[15:44] <spook> whats 50gb in mb
[15:44] <Camarade_Tux> I have the bed since a few hours but still no internet
[15:44] <spook> someone do the math for me
[15:44] <deco> Camarade_Tux: my bed ? hmmmm we can share :P
[15:44] <fire|bird> spook: 51,200
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[15:45] <Camarade_Tux> deco: \o/
[15:45] <spook> fire|bird: thanks dude :)
[15:45] <Camarade_Tux> spook: bc ;p
[15:45] <fire|bird> yw
[15:45] <deco> Camarade_Tux: you can drink and stay up as long as you want \o/
[15:45] <Camarade_Tux> deco: \o/
[15:45] <Camarade_Tux>  <3
[15:46] <fire|bird> deco: you better be careful, Camarade_Tux is french, there'll be a marriage proposal soon. :P
[15:46] <deco> Camarade_Tux: now i have to ask my parents lol
[15:46] <deco> :P
[15:46] <Camarade_Tux> he :P
[15:46] <deco> fire|bird: i know some french :P
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[15:48] <deco> lets all help Camarade_Tux buy his plain ticket to california :P
[15:48] <deco> plane*
[15:48] <Camarade_Tux> I'll travel by mail :P
[15:48] <deco> hahaha :P
[15:48] <fire|bird> haha
[15:49] <fire|bird> Priority Mail Flat Rate.
[15:49] <deco> be careful of ups they might damage you along the way :P
[15:49] <jescis> I just had a thought... of putting a NES version of the 6502 CPU into an Apple II(+ through e not GS)? ;)
[15:49] <fire|bird> deco: Dude, just wrap em in bubble wrap.
[15:50] <deco> fire|bird: hmmm that cheap ?
[15:50] <fire|bird> deco: usually, yeah.
[15:50] <deco> \o/
[15:50] <fire|bird> deco: Or just get a ton of those annoying packing peanuts. :P
[15:50] <deco> haha
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[15:51] <fire|bird> Hmm, I think I'll give preload a try, maybe make things even faster. :D
[15:52] <fire|bird> I haz de need for speed
[15:52] <deco> fire|bird: is on speed!
[15:52] <fire|bird> WHOA WHOA WHOA, that's a WAY different thing.
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[15:53] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: hmmm, don't try preload without a good backup? =)
[15:53] <fire|bird> deco: just for that comment, su -c "rm -rf /home/deco/Drupal_Theme" :P
[15:53] <fire|bird> Camarade_Tux: Hmm, really? It has demons in it?
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[15:53] <deco> fire|bird: noooo!!!
[15:54] <fire|bird> deco: Watch what you say next time. :P
[15:54] <fire|bird> see, shoulda had a backup. :P
[15:54] <deco> fire|bird: yes big bird :P
[15:54] <fire|bird> I'm not yellow you insensitive clod.
[15:54] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: risky
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[15:54] <agentc0re> alright, knee picture update.  :D  http://imagebin.org/65361
[15:54] <deco> fire|bird: you are when you use my nick :P
[15:54] <deco> irssi
[15:55] <deco> ohgod
[15:55] <deco> agentc0re: what happened ? lol
[15:55] <agentc0re> bad skydive landing last night.  :/
[15:55] <fire|bird> Camarade_Tux: Any other "safe" speed ideas? I'm just looking to keep making things faster. :P I moved some stuff from rc.M to rc.local (which isn't working right atm) but it made boot a TON faster.
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[15:56] <deco> agentc0re: oh :/  , i thought big bird here beat you up :P
[15:56] <fire|bird> agentc0re: dude, that looks more red then yesterday.
[15:56] <deco> that's what she said
[15:56] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: what apps are you using? most don't get anything from preload
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[15:57] <Pig_Pen> agentc0re: wow, you really should have packed that in ice when you first injured it
[15:57] <agentc0re> fire|bird: Oh, probably cuz the ice has been on it for ever... I just took the bandage off to change icepacks.
[15:57] <agentc0re> Pig_Pen: i did.
[15:57] <fire|bird> Camarade_Tux: Well, I guess I was more messing with kde, getting it even faster, but xfce sure is flying. :P
[15:57] <blkdg> hi, what's the difference between using gdi driver for your printer, or one for slackbuilds?
[15:57] <fire|bird> Camarade_Tux: It was more just an "I'll try this" idea. :P
[15:57] <agentc0re> deco: That's a good excuse!  i'll start telling that to everyone now.
[15:57] <deco> fire|bird: the usual
[15:58] <fire|bird> agentc0re: Ah, ok.
[15:58] <deco> agentc0re: hahaha
[15:58] <fire|bird> deco: gee, thanks for giving him THAT idea.
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[15:58] <agentc0re> Big bird beat the crap outa me last night.  He threw grouch right into my leg and the trash can just fscked me up!
[15:58] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: I know ;)
[15:58] <fire|bird> hahahaha
[15:58] <fire|bird> agentc0re: Don't for get cookie monster and the steel chair. :P
[15:58] <fire|bird> s/for get/forget/
[15:58] <deco> fire|bird: bad birdy
[15:59] <agentc0re> That's what i get for trying to pick on the sesame characters.
[15:59] <agentc0re> fire|bird: shssshhhh... i didn't want that part getting out!!
[15:59] <fire|bird> agentc0re: I told ya the cute blonde was mine, it was your choice to not listen. :P
[15:59] <agentc0re> lol
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[15:59] <agentc0re>  /clear
[15:59] <fire|bird> hahaha
[16:00] <agentc0re> must hid evidence from wife!
[16:00] <agentc0re> :P
[16:00] Action: deco goes back to developing his drupal site
[16:00] <fire|bird> deco: good choice. :P
[16:00] <agentc0re> s/drupal/porn
[16:00] <deco> agentc0re: that's for latter :P
[16:00] <agentc0re> :D
[16:00] <deco> fire|bird: you'll be missing me , don't lie :P
[16:01] <Camarade_Tux> deco: don't forget to share the address and the logins ;)
[16:01] <fire|bird> su -c "rm -rf /home/deco/Don't_Look_Here/" :D
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[16:01] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: don't! don't delete porn!
[16:02] <jonsmith1982> agentc0re, what really happened? :) your knee gave way whilst picking up the paper? don't believe that sky diving story for a second :)
[16:02] <fire|bird> agentc0re: Chromium still working good for ya? I got AdSweep working with it to block ads.
[16:02] <deco> damn it fire|bird i had some home made ones there too!
[16:02] <fire|bird> jonsmith1982: He and his wife were having a good time.......and the story goes on from there. :P
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[16:02] <fire|bird> deco: OHGOD, I don't wanna know.
[16:03] <deco> Camarade_Tux: sharing is good :P
[16:03] <fire|bird> What you do with the pickle slicer is your business.
[16:03] <deco> lol
[16:03] <fire|bird> just so she doesn't get pissed. :P
[16:03] <fire|bird> I'm on a roll. :D
[16:04] <deco> fire|bird: keep dreaming
[16:04] <Camarade_Tux> deco: \o/
[16:04] <fire|bird> deco: I do. :)
[16:04] <Quiznos> hi
[16:04] <deco> hi
[16:04] <pupit> kids are priceless http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3S0xS2hdi4
[16:05] <Camarade_Tux> hi Quiznos
[16:05] <Quiznos> hihi
[16:05] Action: Camarade_Tux is reading the radeon 5870 articles, nice :p 
[16:05] <jescis> Quiznos, hey there :)
[16:05] <Quiznos> hihi
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[16:05] <agentc0re> jonsmith1982: picking up paper?  What am i, a convict on the highway?
[16:05] <agentc0re> Wait, don't answer that.
[16:06] <agentc0re> :P
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[16:06] <fire|bird> haha
[16:06] <Quiznos> only if you are fond of orange jumpsuits
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[16:06] <christian> hello
[16:06] <fire|bird> agentc0re: Well, wasn't there that one time involving a park bench or something. :P
[16:06] <jescis> Quiznos, I'm coming up with some neat ideas(not that they *will* work though) :)
[16:06] <Quiznos> and 72-pitch P's
[16:06] <Quiznos> kk
[16:06] <deco> christian: hi jesus :D
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[16:07] <jescis> Quiznos, I had a thought of putting a NES version of the 6502 CPU into an Apple II(+ through e not GS)? ;)
[16:07] <Quiznos> AMtrix one on A&E
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[16:07] <Quiznos> heh
[16:07] <Quiznos> Matrix one
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[16:07] <fire|bird> wb deco
[16:07] <deco> fire|bird: thanks, i hate wirless phones
[16:07] <deco> wireless*
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[16:08] <Quiznos> wait, that's antiwire's line
[16:08] <agentc0re> fire|bird: ya, and the trany prostitutes.....  Man, those were the times.
[16:08] <deco> huh ?
[16:08] <deco> fire|bird: i leave and your talking about trany... :P
[16:08] <deco> you're*
[16:08] <Quiznos> hate wireless `~= antiwire
[16:09] <deco> Quiznos: yeah
[16:09] <deco> i hate everything wireless
[16:09] <jescis> Quiznos, a 2032 lithium battery holder soldered on an Apple IIGS ;)
[16:09] <fire|bird> deco: I didn't know you were involved in photoshoots: http://imgur.com/BGGxCl.jpg :D
[16:09] <Quiznos> jescis why?
[16:09] <deco> fire|bird: hahahahhahaha
[16:10] <deco> fire|bird: damn i got nothign to hide now :P
[16:10] <deco> nothing
[16:10] <fire|bird> lol
[16:10] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, hello my friend
[16:10] <fire|bird> hey LnxSlck, how are you?
[16:11] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, fine and you?
[16:11] <fire|bird> excellent, thanks.
[16:11] <deco> fire|bird: this is my cat after eating you :P http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2135/2282479128_94143f3dbc.jpg
[16:11] <fire|bird> LnxSlck: I've got kde into a speed demon. :D
[16:11] <jescis> Quiznos, it's the only holder on hand I have, and the original battery is dead and expencive to replace.
[16:11] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, what's that?
[16:12] <Quiznos> jescis ah
[16:12] <rk4n3> OK, this is weird - I have a USB scanner, permissions are set on the device to allow rw for plugdev group, and my user is in plugdev group, but when I launch xsane, it can't find the scanner ...
[16:12] <fire|bird> LnxSlck: I've got it really fast now. :D
[16:12] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, how come?
[16:12] <Quiznos> turn it on
[16:12] <rk4n3> I know its a permissions issue because running xsane as root finds the scanner fine
[16:12] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, you replaced it with openbox?
[16:12] <LnxSlck> loool
[16:12] Action: thrice` is using openbox currently :>
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[16:12] Action: LnxSlck thrice` is clever 
[16:12] <fire|bird> hahaha, No. I mean kde 4.3.1, it improved performance, but then I found something that made it even faster.
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[16:13] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, what?
[16:13] <rk4n3> lsusb shows the scanner on bus 002, unit 013 - looking at /dev/bus/usb/002/013 shows root:plugdev for ownership, and 664 for permissions
[16:13] <rk4n3> id -a shows my user in plugdev group
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[16:13] <rk4n3> what am I missing ?
[16:13] <deco> LnxSlck: don't listen to fire|bird , his a bad influence
[16:14] <LnxSlck> deco, no... kde is nice :)
[16:14] <fire|bird> LnxSlck: In 4.3.1, hit Alt + F2, type kquitapp plasma-desktop, hit enter, hit Alt + F2, type plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster, hit enter. :D
[16:14] <fire|bird> deco: Good grief, that cat is FAT.
[16:14] <deco> fire|bird: lol
[16:14] <Quiznos> why is he swtiching to tty twice?
[16:14] <Quiznos> BAD INSN
[16:14] <fire|bird> Who's switching to tty?
[16:14] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, you replace the default plasma-desktop with the same but with some tweaks?
[16:14] Action: Quiznos points
[16:15] <Quiznos> there
[16:15] <Quiznos> :)
[16:15] <fire|bird> LnxSlck: yup, it changes the engine.
[16:15] <deco> fire|bird: does it work with 4.2 ?
[16:15] <fire|bird> Quiznos: Alt + F2 isn't a tty, it's kde's run dialog box, just as it is in xfce, etc. too.
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[16:15] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, nice one.. don't forget to submit that to some place to further people know of  it
[16:15] <Quiznos> do, ^@F1, alt-sysrq E
[16:15] <fire|bird> LnxSlck: I found about it on youtube. :)
[16:15] <Quiznos> done and done.
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[16:15] <rk4n3> wow - adding my user to the scanner group fixes it - so something in the chain must be checking specifically for that - file permissions don't seem to matter
[16:15] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, and i thought youtube was for porn.. lool
[16:16] <fire|bird> LnxSlck: Not any more. :P
[16:16] <Quiznos> rk4n3 its not?
[16:16] <fire|bird> It really does give a noticeable difference.
[16:16] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, lol
[16:16] <deco> fire|bird: does it work on 4.2 ?
[16:16] <fire|bird> deco: yeah, just slightly different command.
[16:16] <Quiznos> i gotta move /home
[16:16] <deco> fire|bird: care to show me :P
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[16:17] <rk4n3> Quiznos: "its not?"  ?  not sure I follow the question ...
[16:17] <Quiznos> rk4n3 not fer pr0n
[16:17] <fire|bird> deco: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqSsgTNRA3U <---- watch this :)
[16:17] <deco> fire|bird: thanks i might try it :P
[16:17] <deco> but xfce for now
[16:17] <deco> :D
[16:17] <Quiznos> wth is PurpleSmurf?
[16:17] <deco> Quiznos: a drug ?
[16:18] <deco> :P
[16:18] <Quiznos> nah
[16:18] <Quiznos> my alter-ego
[16:18] <Quiznos> guified
[16:18] <deco> Quiznos: ah subway ?
[16:18] <fire|bird> deco: Quiznos IS PurpleSmurf
[16:18] <Quiznos> nods
[16:18] <Quiznos> i thought xchat was running
[16:18] <deco> fire|bird: i know silly....grrrr
[16:18] <Quiznos> or the zilla thingy
[16:18] <fire|bird> I closed your xchat, one of you is enough
[16:18] <Quiznos> pff
[16:18] <deco> lol
[16:19] Nick change: deco -> Subway
[16:19] <Quiznos> [sing] i gotta be two; i gotta be bi-fur-cat-ted
[16:19] <Quiznos> [/sung]
[16:19] <Subway> so Quiznos ...
[16:19] <Quiznos> hihi
[16:19] <fire|bird> Oh lord
[16:19] <fire|bird> battle of the subs
[16:19] <Quiznos> so,... my ancient nemesi
[16:19] <Subway> it has come to this
[16:19] <fire|bird> Round 1 - 5:00 time
[16:19] <Quiznos> foot-longs at 50 inches?
[16:19] <fire|bird> ok.....FIGHT
[16:19] Action: Quiznos oozes
[16:20] <Quiznos> [sing] slip slidin away
[16:20] <Quiznos> slip to fight another day
[16:20] <agentc0re> 5 dolla foot long!
[16:20] <Quiznos> [/sung[
[16:20] <Quiznos> heh
[16:20] Action: Subway slaps Quiznos with a foot long
[16:20] <nix_chixor> ahahaha
[16:20] Action: Quiznos melts
[16:20] <fire|bird> That was the worst song I've ever heard. It was bloody aweful
[16:20] Action: Quiznos throws meatballs
[16:20] <nix_chixor> quiznos tastes better
[16:20] <Quiznos> USE A TAB!!!
[16:20] <Quiznos> it's Quiznos damnit :)
[16:20] <Subway> nix_chixor: you want to have a taste of me ?
[16:20] <fire|bird> nix_chixor: You've tasted Quiznos, does your hubby know about this? :P
[16:20] <Camarade_Tux> hmmmm
[16:20] <nix_chixor> Subway, you're full of lettuce
[16:20] Action: Quiznos slings salami slices
[16:21] <agentc0re> lol
[16:21] <Quiznos> they stick everywhere
[16:21] <nix_chixor> i'm not a rabbit i like meat
[16:21] <nix_chixor> :)
[16:21] <Quiznos> lol
[16:21] <Quiznos> salami ninja stars
[16:21] <nix_chixor> he would have bolonga
[16:21] <Quiznos> ew
[16:21] <chopp> nix_chixor: we know *exactly* how much you like meat. ;)
[16:21] <Quiznos> where's the milfpot?
[16:21] Action: fire|bird tosses Quiznos in the toaster oven and turns the dial to Radio Active
[16:22] <Quiznos> lol
[16:22] <Quiznos> "DON'T NUKE ME, BRO!!!"
[16:22] <nix_chixor> chopp, yeah i made it heard, don't hate
[16:22] Action: Subway pokes Quiznos 
[16:22] <fire|bird> too late, you're fried
[16:22] <fire|bird> Quiznos: turn out all the lights, you probably glow green now.
[16:22] <Quiznos> no, wrong frase; "you're toast!"
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[16:22] <Quiznos> lol
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[16:22] Action: Quiznos erupts speeshul sauce
[16:23] <nix_chixor> mm
[16:23] <fire|bird> That sauce better be kept under wraps, nobody wants it
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[16:23] <chopp> nix_chixor: no hate here. You're honesty is the best policy. :)
[16:23] Action: Subway gives Quiznos horrible customer service
[16:24] Action: fire|bird gets a katana and chops Quiznos into bite size subs.
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[16:24] <Quiznos> do they sell those pre-sharpened?
[16:24] <nix_chixor> mini Quiznos oh boy
[16:24] <fire|bird> A katana is a sword, and I'm guess it's sharp.
[16:24] <Quiznos> i know what they are
[16:24] <fire|bird> nix_chixor: So, you like mini? Size doesn't matter. :P
[16:24] <Quiznos> i saw a show
[16:25] <Subway> fire|bird: grammer fail
[16:25] <fire|bird> wow, good for you.
[16:25] <spider1010> Don't nuke our imaginations Bro
[16:25] <Quiznos> i watched Shogun
[16:25] <nix_chixor> haha
[16:25] <fire|bird> Subway: whoops
[16:25] <fire|bird> I guess we're seeing how far down the rabbit hole goes.
[16:25] <nix_chixor> i can't answer that one
[16:25] <Quiznos> not far enuf, bird
[16:25] <Subway> fire|bird:  im contagious
[16:25] <fire|bird> nix_chixor: lol
[16:26] <fire|bird> Subway: contagious with what?
[16:26] <Subway> fire|bird: bad spelling
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[16:26] <wubbster> hi
[16:26] <nix_chixor> oh hi
[16:26] <Quiznos> wubbie!!!
[16:26] Action: Subway hugs wubbster 
[16:27] <nix_chixor> fire|bird, i can handle a footlong sub
[16:27] <Subway> nix_chixor: :O
[16:27] <wubbster> this may sound stupid but, where would i go to remove the mail notifications at login? ive looked through everything in profile.d and various other places and cant find it
[16:27] <Subway> nix_chixor: but can you swollow it ?
[16:27] <nix_chixor> inhale it
[16:27] <Quiznos> wubbster # biff
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[16:27] <nix_chixor> omnom
[16:27] <Subway> lol
[16:27] Nick change: Subway -> deco
[16:27] <Quiznos> wubbster in ~/.bash_profile
[16:27] <deco> \o/
[16:27] <slava_dp> wubbster, /etc/login.defs is your friend.
[16:28] <fire|bird> deco: Oh, it's you again. :P
[16:28] <deco> fire|bird: yes :D
[16:29] <fire|bird> deco is now known as deco|the|gecko
[16:29] <wubbster> slava_dp, thanks :D
[16:29] <slava_dp> wubbster, yw :)
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[16:31] <deco> fire|bird: hahaha :P
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[16:37] <LnxSlck> is there a place where you can put a name of a band and it tells you what kind of music it is?
[16:37] <LnxSlck> like you place metallica and it says hard rock
[16:37] <LnxSlck> or whatever
[16:38] <fire|bird> Not that I've heard of ever, but maybe there is something out there.
[16:39] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, that would kind of nice though
[16:39] <fire|bird> LnxSlck: that would be awesome
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[16:40] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, defining a style for a band is not easy, because there's hundred of styles
[16:40] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, but it would be nice
[16:40] <fire|bird> \o/, netsplit
[16:40] <feinoM> You could just put the name of the band into wikipedia and look at "Genres" in the info box on the right.
[16:40] <slava_dp> good split
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[16:41] <slava_dp> geez. username spam.
[16:42] <LnxSlck> upps wrong button
[16:42] <LnxSlck> sorry guys
[16:42] <fire|bird> haha
[16:42] <C00re> :)
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[16:42] <fire|bird> whoops, I was involged in that one on my laptop
[16:42] <Quiznos> heh
[16:42] <fire|bird> involved*
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[16:47] <dscpl0> Hi, if I want to play streaming audio, e.g. online radio, in my browser, is there any slackware package (official or unofficial) providing such plugins?
[16:47] <wubbster> mpd + icecast?
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[16:48] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, have you tried songbird? it show some info on the music you are listening, including tags
[16:48] <Pig_Pen> maybe mplayer and mplayerplug-in
[16:48] <fire|bird> LnxSlck: Yeah I have
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[16:49] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, it's nice
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[16:49] <wubbster> mpd + sonata <3
[16:49] <dscpl0> Pig_Pen, tried finding an mplayer-package on slackbuilds.org for slack 13.0. there's only one for 12.2...
[16:49] <fire|bird> dscpl0: mplayer is included in slack 13
[16:49] <dscpl0> Pig_Pen, maybe those can be used for 13.0 as well?
[16:49] <thrice`> dscpl0: mplayer ships with 13
[16:50] <dscpl0> fire|bird, ah, that explains it. :-)
[16:50] <dscpl0> thrice`, ok
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[16:50] <dscpl0> how about the plugins?
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[16:50] <metrofox> hi there!
[16:51] <fire|bird> hey metrofox
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[16:51] <metrofox> yo fire|bird, how is going? :)
[16:51] <fire|bird> excellent, thanks, you?
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[16:52] <metrofox> fire|bird, too slacker right now :P
[16:52] <jeev> anyone install slack on an hp server with ciss ? i think it's ciss
[16:52] <jeev> p400i raid
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[16:57] <Pig_Pen> dscpl0: build it without a slackbuild, just get the latest snapshot and use DESTDIR when you run make install, then run makepkg on it
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[16:59] Action: deco now hates wireless phones with a passion
[16:59] <fire|bird> deco: they hate you too. :P
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[16:59] <deco> fire|bird: yes , they like to drop my internet connection :(
[16:59] <dscpl0> Pig_Pen, thanks
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[17:00] <jeev> eminem ripped mariah carey a new vaginal
[17:01] <fire|bird> jeev: haha, yeah. I've heard that song.
[17:01] Action: deco threw his wireless keyboard and mouse to hell
[17:02] <fire|bird> wow
[17:02] <fire|bird> you threw that quite aways
[17:02] <jeev> i'd rather die than use wireless keyboard and/or mouse
[17:02] <fire|bird> :P
[17:02] <fire|bird> jeev: haha, why?
[17:02] <jeev> i hate wireless, my tv remote is wired
[17:02] <deco> jeev: agree
[17:02] <deco> i had enough
[17:02] <fire|bird> a wired tv remote? OMG
[17:03] <slava_dp> irda != wireless
[17:03] <slava_dp> can safely use it ;)
[17:03] <fire|bird> hey slava_dp
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[17:03] <deco> god my hands are too big for my lappys keyboard:(
[17:03] <jeev> irs stil wireless
[17:03] <slava_dp> y0 fire|bird :)
[17:03] <deco> i remember way i bought a seperate keyboard now
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[17:03] <deco> why*
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[17:09] <wubbster> i love slackware's rc.d
[17:09] <jeev> heh, my slackware install first goes to freebsd bootloader
[17:09] <jeev> then lilo ;)
[17:09] <jeev> stupid raid
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[17:09] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, does your songbird stay as one icon in the taskbar when you close it?
[17:10] <fire|bird> LnxSlck: Umm, I don't think it does, no, but I haven't really paid attention to that.
[17:10] <deco> jeev: what DE do you use with freebsd ?
[17:10] <LnxSlck> fire|bird, ok
[17:10] <jeev> DE?
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[17:10] <fire|bird> desktop environment
[17:11] <fire|bird> gnome, kde, xfce.....
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[17:11] <deco> jeev: really ?
[17:11] <Quiznos> slava_dp "ir" is the essence of wireless
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[17:11] <wubbster> everyone should use xfce :P
[17:11] <deco> wubbster: indeed :D
[17:12] <jeev> yea, i dont deal with acronyms
[17:12] <jeev> sorry
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[17:12] <deco> jeev: ok :P
[17:12] <wubbster> i love xfce
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[17:13] <jeev> anyway, i just fixed it
[17:13] <jeev> wee, slackware on this pretty good system, i need to get a second proc
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[17:17] <jeev> wow!
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[17:17] <jeev> kvm disabled
[17:17] <jeev> by bios
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[17:26] <jeev> k hope that fixed it
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[17:26] <LnxSlck> i keep having problems with usb discs
[17:26] <LnxSlck> NTFS-fs warning (device sdc1): parse_options(): Option utf8 is no longer supported, using option nls=utf8. Please use option nls=utf8 in the future and make sure utf8 is compiled either as a module or into the kernel.
[17:27] <LnxSlck> i can't delete any file or create on the usb disc :(
[17:27] <metrofox> and make sure utf8 is compiled either as a module or into the kernel.
[17:27] <metrofox> first of all, is it?
[17:27] <LnxSlck> metrofox, lsmod ?
[17:28] <LnxSlck> can i modprobe utf8 ?
[17:28] <metrofox> LnxSlck, you shouldn't need...
[17:28] <LnxSlck> metrofox, aparently i need.. this is giving me such a pita
[17:28] <metrofox> because of that doesn't exist...
[17:29] <metrofox> as module...
[17:29] <LnxSlck> metrofox, i already have on fstab: none            /proc/bus/usb     usbfs      nls=utf8,devmode=0664,devgid=102  0 0
[17:29] <LnxSlck> metrofox, what more can i do?
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[17:29] <andli> my sister left the apartment for a musical, when she got back she didnt have vista on her laptop anymore, I got fed up with it and installed ubuntu. :D
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[17:30] <thumbs> andli: without her permission?
[17:31] <thumbs> andli: why didn't you install slackware, for the record?
[17:31] <metrofox> LnxSlck, let me get documented :) I'll be right back, if I find what I'm looking for obviously
[17:31] <LnxSlck> metrofox, i've been through google.. nothing seems to get it right
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[17:32] <jeev> spookie, there?
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[17:35] <metrofox> LnxSlck, what does nls need for?
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[17:35] <LnxSlck> metrofox, it seems now my usb discs needs utf8 as nls=utf8
[17:36] <LnxSlck> metrofox, let me change my locales
[17:36] <LnxSlck> no
[17:36] <LnxSlck> that's not it.. i can't see what could be wrong
[17:36] <metrofox> LnxSlck, just try to change your locale, but first try to remove that option there...
[17:36] <LnxSlck> metrofox, swith to a utf8 locale right?
[17:36] <metrofox> I don't have that in my fstab and my locale is utf8, too...
[17:37] <LnxSlck> metrofox, my locale it's not utf8
[17:37] <metrofox> LnxSlck, why do your USB discs need of utf8?
[17:37] <LnxSlck> metrofox, don't know
[17:37] <LnxSlck> weird stuff
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[17:37] <metrofox> LnxSlck, just try :)
[17:38] <LnxSlck> k
[17:38] <nix_chixor> fire|bird, we ended up ordering a chicken bacon ranch pizza
[17:38] <nix_chixor> i dont feel like cooking
[17:38] <metrofox> If that solves the problem well, if that won't we'll try something else...
[17:38] <fire|bird> haha
[17:38] <fire|bird> nix_chixor: nothing wrong with that. :)
[17:39] <nix_chixor> yeah
[17:39] <nix_chixor> ordered observe and report on ppv
[17:39] <LnxSlck> metrofox, i also have a laptop with slackware.. i'll compare both of them. and see if the problem is the same on both
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[17:39] <metrofox> LnxSlck, well, compare and let us now :)
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[17:42] <hitest> greetings folks:)
[17:42] <metrofox> hi hitest :)
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[17:42] <hitest> hi metrofox:)
[17:44] <LnxSlck> metrofox, well it appears to be a locale problem.. on my laptop i have en_US on my home pc pt_PT
[17:44] <fire|bird> y0 hitest
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[17:44] <LnxSlck> metrofox, and with pt_PT i can't write to usb disc
[17:44] <metrofox> LnxSlck, fix it :)
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[17:44] <hitest> hi fire|bird, how are you man?
[17:44] <LnxSlck> metrofox, i want pt_PT as it is my country locale
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[17:45] <metrofox> LnxSlck, do you want to replace it instead of en_US?
[17:45] <LnxSlck> metrofox, yes. i want pt_PT.. i will try pt_PT.utf8
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[17:46] <metrofox> LnxSlck, pt_PT.UTF-8 :)
[17:46] <LnxSlck> is it utf-8 or pt_PT.utf8 ?
[17:46] <LnxSlck> because i got pt_PT.utf8 when i do locale -a
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[17:47] <metrofox> LnxSlck, it would be better if UTF-8(as it's written, uppercase)
[17:47] <LnxSlck> ok
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[17:48] <metrofox> once done reboot... And try again
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[17:48] <LnxSlck> metrofox, solve it with pt_PT.utf8
[17:48] <LnxSlck> metrofox, no reboot needed also
[17:48] Action: hitest wanders off for a nap, be back later:)
[17:49] <metrofox> LnxSlck, solved?
[17:49] <LnxSlck> metrofox, yep
[17:49] <LnxSlck> metrofox, with the .utf8
[17:49] <metrofox> okay :)
[17:50] <metrofox> so it was a locale problem ;)
[17:50] <LnxSlck> metrofox, yeah.. weird because en_US worked and pt_PT didn't
[17:50] <LnxSlck> metrofox, with en_US it didn't complain about utf8
[17:51] <LnxSlck> geez my wireless card works out of the box with slackware
[17:51] <LnxSlck> nice
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[17:56] <wubbster> :D
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[18:03] <jeev> anyone here kvm ?
[18:08] <thrice`> god jeev, stfu
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[18:13] <thumbs> thrice`: what did he say again?
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[18:13] <jeev> are you serious thrice`?
[18:13] <jeev> do i have to release a song about you like eminem did to mariah and tell them how you made me prematurely ejaculate ?
[18:14] <thrice`> O.o
[18:14] <edman007> jeev, yes please
[18:14] <jeev> hahah edman007
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[18:15] <edman007> jeev, i need a youtube link of you singing to thrice` and dancing
[18:15] <edman007> you have 3 hours
[18:15] <Pig_Pen> do it Weird Al Yankovitch style (a parody)
[18:15] <thrice`> lol
[18:16] <fire|bird> and then thrice` can provide a rap song in response.
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[18:18] <redtricycle> can I use a slackware 12.2 to boot up the computer, then install Slackware 13.0?
[18:19] <thrice`> no
[18:19] <redtricycle> Crap...I'll have to find a usb key to make a boot-key then
[18:19] <thrice`> 12.2 package management doesn't understand 13.0 packages
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[18:22] <C00re> is slack12.x and 13 shipped with 2.4.x kernel?
[18:22] <thrice`> no
[18:22] <metrofox> no
[18:22] <C00re> ok
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[18:25] <Camarade_Tux> 11 was I think
[18:25] <thrice`> yep, 11 had 2.4.33.3
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[18:31] <jeev> what's the alternative to tunctl on slack
[18:31] <jeev> ahh, i need to build it
[18:32] <dscpl0> anybody know if there is a mozilla dev package for slackware (13.0)?
[18:32] <thrice`> kinda/sorta
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[18:35] <LnxSlck> doesnt virtualbox do 64bits operating systems?
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[18:36] <mingdao> define "do"
[18:37] <thrice`> SBo reports:  "
[18:37] <thrice`> NOTE: This will not build on a stock x86_64 system."
[18:38] <Camarade_Tux> ok, firefox >= 3 is not cleaning its sql(ite) databases, that should only come for 3.6 or 3.7
[18:38] <Camarade_Tux> (as used in the "awesome" bar, which easily lead to > 60Mb databases)
[18:38] <thrice`> Camarade_Tux: google for "firefox sqlite vacuum"
[18:39] <Camarade_Tux> dscpl0: also, define "mozilla dev package", what do you want to do with it?
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[18:40] <dscpl0> Camarade_Tux, well, I only need it in order to build mplayer-plugins
[18:41] <Camarade_Tux> thrice`: I didn't know that one, I found out about the problem only a few days ago on a friend's computer, when cleaning it
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[18:41] <Camarade_Tux> the sql dbs are all empty here
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[18:43] <alienBOB> You may need the seamonkey package if you need to build against nspr and friends, dscpl0
[18:43] <Camarade_Tux> that's what http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/mplayerplug-in/ says
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[18:45] <Camarade_Tux> otherwise, you only need bits of netscape code to use np-plugin api (I don't think mplayer-plug-in needs more), actually these bits are in webkit I think
[18:45] <diegoviola> hi, i need to generate a new installer from my current system, how can i do that?
[18:45] <diegoviola> or make a custom slack install
[18:45] <Camarade_Tux> diegoviola: be more precise on what you need to customize
[18:45] <diegoviola> Camarade_Tux: i just need to a add a few packages
[18:46] <diegoviola> Camarade_Tux: base system plus my own stuff
[18:47] <alienBOB> dscpl0: however, mplayerplug-in is available as a slackware 13.0 package in /extra
[18:47] <jeev> hey alice_c
[18:47] <jeev> i mean alienBlurb
[18:47] <jeev> jesus
[18:47] <jeev> alienBOB.
[18:47] <Camarade_Tux>  ^^
[18:47] <diegoviola> Camarade_Tux: any ideas
[18:47] <Camarade_Tux> alienBOB: he, even better ;p
[18:47] <dscpl0> alienBOB, that's useful information. thanks!
[18:47] <jeev> alienBOB, any suggestions on getting public networking running on kvm ?
[18:48] <alienBOB> Yes
[18:48] <Camarade_Tux> diegoviola: depending on the installation method you use, you can just drop the .t?z files in some of folder (a/, ap/...)
[18:48] <Camarade_Tux> bit ugly but works iirc
[18:48] <dscpl0> good night
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[18:49] <mingdao> diegoviola: tagfiles?
[18:50] <diegoviola> mingdao: tagfiles?
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[18:51] <mingdao> diegoviola: Read the Slackware-HOWTO -  grep tagfiles
[18:52] <diegoviola> mingdao: ok
[18:52] <mingdao> It might also be in the Slack Book and Slackware Basics.
[18:52] <mingdao> diegoviola: you basically install Slackware, add/remove pkgs, and then make tagfiles of that install.
[18:53] <jeev> alienBOB, suggest the vde approach on your wiki ?
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[18:53] <mingdao> Next install you select the tagfiles as you packages.
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[18:54] <andarius> greetings and salutations
[18:54] <mingdao> diegoviola: you can even setup tagfiles before doing an install ... I just did that for my server
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[18:55] <Camarade_Tux> ok, good night
[18:55] <diegoviola> thanks
[18:55] <Camarade_Tux> (and a secret message for my secret lover: fire|bird, meet you at 3:00 under our bridge)
[18:56] <alienBOB> jeev: kvm uses qemu (somewhat modified) so yes, try the information in my wiki
[18:56] <fire|bird> greetings andarius, how are you?
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[18:56] <fire|bird> Camarade_Tux: wtf......
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[18:57] <Scuzz> lol
[18:57] Action: fire|bird sends Camarade_Tux for a psych evaluation
[18:58] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: :)
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[18:59] <Scuzz> fire|bird, do you see anything similar in your /var/log/messages after upgrading to kde 4.3.1
[18:59] <Scuzz> kernel: guidance-power-[3591]: segfault at 37aa ip b7d161eb sp bfa573cc error 4 in libc-2.9.so[b7c9f000+15a000]
[18:59] <Scuzz> kernel: python[3590]: segfault at b7a92f10 ip b7e08743 sp bfd30970 error 7 in libpython2.6.so.1.0[b7d80000+13f000]
[19:00] <jeev> alienBOB, vdeqemu is deprecated
[19:00] <jeev> i cant start with -net vde,vlan=0
[19:00] <deco> fire|bird: i could you cheat on me !!! :P
[19:00] <deco> fire|bird: how could you *
[19:01] <jeev> i forgot to enable nat, maybe that was my problem from the bgining
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[19:03] <fire|bird> deco: dear lord, you and Camarade_Tux are crazy. :P
[19:04] <deco> fire|bird: :)
[19:04] <fire|bird> Scuzz: I'll check in a bit.
[19:04] <Scuzz> np
[19:04] <Scuzz> im jsut curious
[19:05] <Scuzz> nothing major to take away form your time
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[19:07] <jeev> alienBOB, vdeq is reporting that it's deprecated
[19:07] <jeev> that qemu and kvm have native support for vde.. but -net vde wont work
[19:07] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: mouhahahahahahaha
[19:08] <deco> Camarade_Tux: you can't take away my fire|bird !!! :D
[19:08] <Camarade_Tux> that's what you think ;)
[19:09] <Camarade_Tux> ok, really gone now, need to get back home (without internet ='( )
[19:09] <deco> Camarade_Tux: ok see ya
[19:10] <metrofox> guys... It's 1:10 a.m. here, I slept 4 hours today... :P My bed is waiting me, I gotta go now :)
[19:10] <fire|bird> HOLY, Scuzz I have a bunch of guidance-power errors in /var/log/messages, but no segfaults for guidance-power- or python.
[19:10] <fire|bird> see ya metrofox
[19:10] <metrofox> see ya later fire|bird, have a good day guys ;)
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[19:11] <Scuzz> hrm
[19:11] <Scuzz> how did you install the packages ?
[19:11] <fire|bird> upgradepkg --install-new *.txz
[19:12] <Scuzz> k that would explain it
[19:12] <Scuzz> i jsut used installpkg
[19:12] <fire|bird> yikes, that could make a mess of things. :P
[19:12] <Scuzz> lol
[19:12] <Scuzz> so far no problems
[19:12] <fire|bird> So now you have two kde versions fighting for supremecy.
[19:12] <Scuzz> im surpirsed also
[19:13] <Scuzz> im gonna clean them up
[19:13] <mancha> may the best bloat win
[19:13] <fire|bird> haha
[19:13] <Scuzz> hahha
[19:13] <mancha> er, bloke  (heh)
[19:13] <fire|bird> mancha: I got kde really fast now, but I'm really liking xfce now.
[19:14] <mancha> i got kde quite fast on a 12 cpu farm with 16 tb of ram
[19:14] <mancha> (j/k)
[19:14] <fire|bird> haha
[19:14] <fire|bird> On a machine like that, it had better be fast.
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[19:15] <fire|bird> kde, without any tweaking, etc. runs awesome on my laptop (AMD Athlon 64bit 3200+, 512 MB ram, Xpress 200m) My laptop runs nicer than my laptop, I don't know if I should laugh or cry that my laptop beats my desktop. :P
[19:15] <fire|bird> err. laptop runs nicer than desktop
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[19:16] <deco> fire|bird: nice one
[19:16] <fire|bird> deco: my laptop has half the ram, but runs better. :P
[19:16] <fire|bird> and faster
[19:17] <deco> fire|bird: no i mean your typo :P
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[19:17] <fire|bird> yeah, I do good eh? :P
[19:17] <fire|bird> I blame the keyboard.
[19:17] <deco> fire|bird: good for a bird :P
[19:17] <deco> sure sure
[19:17] <fire|bird> It's wireless, you known, gets crossed signals. :P
[19:17] <fire|bird> argh
[19:17] <deco> fire|bird: hey same here
[19:17] <fire|bird> s/known/know/
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[19:17] <fire|bird> that's a good excuse, right? :P
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[19:17] <deco> fire|bird: we have so many things in common
[19:18] <fire|bird> that's scary
[19:18] <deco> fire|bird: makes me sad :(
[19:18] <deco> :P
[19:18] <deco> lol
[19:18] <Camarade_Tux> (love is beautiful)
[19:18] <fire|bird> Hmm, I wonder what this does, /ignore deco  :D
[19:18] <deco> Camarade_Tux: go home !!!!
[19:18] <fire|bird> he has no home
[19:18] <deco> fire|bird: no, my heart will be broken :P
[19:18] <fire|bird> he's a homeless frenchman
[19:18] <deco> hmmm
[19:19] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: I haz one now!
[19:19] <fire|bird> he drinks wine from a box, noodles from a bag, it's horrible.
[19:19] <deco> hahahah
[19:19] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: and porto -_-
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[19:19] <deco> Camarade_Tux: have you seen god ?
[19:20] <fire|bird> deco: yes he has, on a piece of toast.
[19:20] <fire|bird> How do you think he afforded the wine and noodles, he sold the toast on ebay.
[19:20] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: of bread, a piece of bread, with cheese -_-
[19:20] <deco> fire|bird: i thought he sold something else
[19:20] <fire|bird> deco: No, that's how he got is FIRST home.
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[19:21] <deco> oh i see
[19:21] <deco> fire|bird: it was you who had the highst bid! :P
[19:21] <Camarade_Tux> fire|bird: s/is/his/ -_-
[19:21] <deco> highest*
[19:21] <fire|bird> deco: OHGODNO
[19:21] <deco> fire|bird: ewwwwww
[19:21] <fire|bird> Camarade_Tux: OMG, another typo
[19:21] Nick change: fire|bird -> fail|bird
[19:21] <fail|bird> :(
[19:21] <deco> ahhahaha
[19:22] <deco> fail|bird: go sit in the corner
[19:22] <Camarade_Tux>  :)
[19:22] <Camarade_Tux> ok, I really really really really need to go
[19:22] <Camarade_Tux> good night
[19:22] <deco> Camarade_Tux: night
[19:22] <fail|bird> The many faces of the bird man, :( :| :) :^), :/
[19:22] <deco> :P
[19:23] <deco> Camarade_Tux: cover your back while you sleep you never know what those hobos might do :P
[19:23] <Pig_Pen> who is fail|bird and what have you done with fire|bird :O
[19:23] <fail|bird> hahaha
[19:24] <fail|bird> If I hadn't switched to this nick before, this would have made 98 different nick changes.
[19:24] Nick change: deco -> fire|bird
[19:24] <fire|bird> hey guys!
[19:24] <fire|bird> i fixed kde
[19:24] <fire|bird> made it faster!
[19:24] <Pig_Pen> hi fire|bird
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[19:24] <fire|bird> hey Pig_Pen
[19:24] Nick change: fire|bird -> Guest2961
[19:25] <fail|bird> muahahahahaha
[19:25] <Guest2961> damn it bird
[19:25] <Guest2961> i have no identity now :(
[19:25] <Guest2961> just  ghost
[19:25] <Pig_Pen> fire|bird your arch nemisis is here
[19:25] <Guest2961> a
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[19:25] <fail|bird> dang it, I have to release that nick now you insensitive clod.
[19:26] Nick change: fail|bird -> fire|bird
[19:26] <fire|bird> :D
[19:26] Nick change: Guest2961 -> fail|bird
[19:26] <fail|bird> :D
[19:26] <fire|bird> haha
[19:26] <fail|bird> sucks being fire|bird
[19:26] Nick change: fire|bird -> deco
[19:26] <fail|bird> everything breaks
[19:26] <deco> It sucks even more being this deco idiot. :D
[19:26] Nick change: fail|bird -> fire|bird
[19:26] Nick change: fire|bird -> Guest20196
[19:26] <Guest20196> oh guys i borked someting
[19:26] Nick change: deco -> fire|bird
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[19:27] <fire|bird> you idiot, I ghosted you again. you really do fail
[19:27] Nick change: Guest20196 -> deco
[19:27] <fire|bird> :P
[19:27] <deco> lol
[19:27] <deco> :)
[19:27] <fire|bird> I wonder what people do in real life on the weekends while we sit and do this crap. :P
[19:28] <fire|bird> Pig_Pen: How's it going?
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[19:28] <deco> fire|bird: ive asked the same question to my self lol
[19:29] <deco> and then look outside the window
[19:30] Action: deco drupal is PITA yet awesome
[19:30] <Pig_Pen> good! how goes it with you fire|bird
[19:30] <fire|bird> goes great, thanks. :)
[19:32] <Pig_Pen> guess what i did today, while my PC sat idle in irc i went to Sears & Roebuck and bought a new stove for 500 bucks because the old one had to go, so i bring home a new stove and hook it up and hauled the old one to the scrap metal recycler and said they can have it for free since they had to strip it down to bare metal
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[19:33] <fire|bird> nice
[19:33] <deco> fire|bird: that beats anything we did today :P lol
[19:33] <fire|bird> deco: No crap, that's pathetic. :P
[19:33] <deco> fire|bird: lol
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[19:34] <godling> hello
[19:34] <fire|bird> hello
[19:34] <deco> hi
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[19:34] <godling> how's it going?
[19:34] <fire|bird> great, you?
[19:35] <godling> ok, I guess. have you guys seen this? it's pretty cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc
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[19:37] <fire|bird> y0 hitest
[19:37] <hitest> hi fire|bird
[19:38] <godling> I guess that's a "meh"
[19:39] <quasar> Brain not found. Insert newly formatted brain and try again.
[19:39] Action: deco keeps ignoring
[19:39] <godling> quasar: eh?
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[19:39] <quasar> B
[19:40] <fire|bird> C
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[19:40] <hitest> D
[19:40] <andarius> E
[19:40] <godling> if quasar jumped off a cliff, would you guys as well? ;P
[19:40] <quasar> FAIL
[19:40] <fire|bird> godling: How high's the cliff? :P
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[19:41] <hitest> godling: I'll follow you off the cliff, but, you must jump first
[19:41] <quasar> godling: you started it, btw.
[19:41] <godling> quasar: when?
[19:41] <quasar> anyhow, movie is back on.. bbnc
[19:42] <fire|bird> hitest: I'll follow too, but I'll have a parachute. :P
[19:42] <godling> When I entered the channel? I suppose that might be correct, although who is to say the interplay would not have occurred had I not been in the channel.
[19:42] <hitest> lol
[19:42] <godling> s|.|?|
[19:42] <quasar> godling: (6:39:32p)(godling) quasar: eh? .. the difference is, we know how to spell the letters of the alphabet :)
[19:43] <hitest> fire|bird: ggod one
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[19:43] <hitest> good
[19:43] <godling> quasar: I was wondering why you made the brain comment. :)
[19:44] <mancha> i hate vanity sed
[19:44] <godling> vanity sed?
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[19:47] Action: hitest is tired today...man, I'm glad it is the weekend:)
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[19:49] <godling> well, I thought that video was pretty neat. :P
[19:50] <godling> is everyone slacking off on the weekend? :)
[19:50] <deco> godling: fire|bird and i do it all week :P
[19:51] Action: deco gets ready for the double meaning jokes
[19:51] <hitest> heh
[19:52] <godling> actually I had to think about it for a minute because some people do not include the weekend in their definition of week
[19:52] <deco> hmmmm true
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[19:52] <godling> so if you thought of hte weekend as separate then that statement could have implied that you were not slacking off since you did so during the week :)
[19:52] <godling> or it could have no extra meaning attached and just mean what you typed.
[19:53] <godling> :)
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[19:53] <hitest> godling: you are smoking far too much weed
[19:53] <godling> hitest: I am entirely sober.
[19:53] Action: fire|bird takes away deco's typing privileges. :/
[19:53] <hitest> okay then:)
[19:53] <godling> Well, unless you count black tea.
[19:54] <fire|bird> sober just means your not drunk, that doesn't include weed. :P
[19:54] <godling> I guess one can't really be sober, though, because one is always under the influence of some chemical.
[19:55] Action: hitest is high on life and starts skipping through a sunny field
[19:56] <hitest> :)
[19:56] <godling> everyone is high on neurotransmitters
[19:56] Nick change: deco -> bird|hunter
[19:56] <godling> hehe
[19:56] <bird|hunter> fire|bird: i can type now :D
[19:56] <hitest> ha
[19:56] <godling> sniiiiiiiipe
[19:56] Action: bird|hunter gets his sniper rdy
[19:56] <bird|hunter> ready*
[19:57] Action: godling gets a net and a hose
[19:57] <bird|hunter> read!
[19:57] <bird|hunter> ready*
[19:57] <godling> haha
[19:57] <godling> are you sure you can type?
[19:57] <bird|hunter> birdy birdy come out and play
[19:57] <bird|hunter> godling: wireless keyboard ok!
[19:58] <godling> I want to modify my Model M and make it wireless.
[19:58] <bird|hunter> dude wireless is so overated
[19:58] Action: bird|hunter hates wirless with a passion
[19:58] <godling> rf, you mean?
[19:58] <bird|hunter> wireless* see
[19:58] <fire|bird> hey, that rhymed. birdy birdy come out and play godling wireless keyboard ok. :P
[19:58] <bird|hunter> fire|bird: woahh
[19:59] <bird|hunter> fire|bird: :D
[19:59] <godling> bird|hunter thinks in rhyme
[19:59] Action: bird|hunter rapstar in the making
[19:59] <godling> bird|hunter: is that all of the time?
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[19:59] <fire|bird> godling: How does that work though when he types before he thinks?
[19:59] <bird|hunter> fire|bird: magic
[20:00] <bird|hunter> oh i remember now
[20:00] Action: bird|hunter gets his sniper
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[20:00] <godling> hm. too many questions
[20:00] Action: bird|hunter aims at fire|bird 
[20:01] <fire|bird> godling: Why do you say that?
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[20:01] <godling> fire|bird: can someone do something without their mind processing it?
[20:01] <godling> if so, then what is thinking?
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[20:02] <godling> too many questions
[20:02] <bird|hunter> grrrrr
[20:02] Nick change: bird|hunter -> deco
[20:02] <RipVanWinkle> subconscioisly people do lots of things everyday ]
[20:02] <hitest> godling: the autonomic system functions without thinking
[20:02] <hitest> digestion, etc
[20:03] <fire|bird> s/subconscioisly/subconsciously/
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[20:03] <deco> oh watch out the bird knows how to spell :P
[20:03] <fire|bird> deco: yup, including the big words that are above your knowledge. :P
[20:04] <deco> fire|bird: you got me there :
[20:04] <deco> :P
[20:04] <godling> RipVanWinkle, hitest: most certainly these things are accomplished without conscious effort.
[20:04] <fire|bird> argh, kaudiocreator gets on my nerves, what's a good cli tool for ripping cd's?
[20:05] <hitest> fire}bird: I'm still using k3b, it works okay
[20:06] <hitest> fire|bird
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[20:06] <godling> fire|bird: I wrote my own perl script to do it
[20:06] <hitest> jeez my typing sucks on this keyboard
[20:06] <fire|bird> godling: seriously? sweet.
[20:06] <fire|bird> hitest: lol
[20:06] <hitest> :)
[20:06] <godling> fire|bird: I could have done a better job.
[20:07] <godling> I would give you a copy but it's not on this machine
[20:07] <godling> and I wouldn't want you to blame me if you ran it and it punched you in the stomach
[20:07] <mancha> pics or it didn't happen
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[20:08] <twolf> cdparanoia
[20:08] <andarius> fire|bird: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/audio/abcde/
[20:08] <godling> my perl script used cdparanoia. it really is the best lib to rip cds imho
[20:08] <mancha> i 2nd cdparanoia
[20:09] <fire|bird> andarius: thank you.
[20:09] <mancha> cdparanoia -B
[20:09] <fire|bird> ok, why is cdparanoia better than others?
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[20:09] <mancha> that'll rip her for ya
[20:09] <quasar> I tried to take it back but it was too late.
[20:10] <fire|bird> I'll check cdparanoia out too. I rip all my cd's to flac
[20:10] <godling> what others, fire|bird?
[20:11] <mingdao> fire|bird: "cdparanoia -B" as mancha said, then "for i in *.wav; do lame "$i" "`basename "$i" .wav`".mp3; done" to convert .wav to .mp3
[20:11] <mingdao> other options available, too
[20:11] <fire|bird> godling: Well, I just asked that beings you said it's the best lib, so I assumed there's others. :P
[20:11] <fire|bird> mingdao: ok, thanks.
[20:11] <godling> I imagined so, which is why I asked what others you were referring to.
[20:12] <fire|bird> lol, I don't know any others, :P
[20:12] <godling> cdparanoia is renowned for being able to rip tracks from your cds even if you store them in a box of gravel.
[20:12] <godling> (I read that somewhere)
[20:12] <fire|bird> wow
[20:12] <jeev> mingdao, do you remember how you'd get your vm on to the net ?
[20:12] <jeev> tap ?
[20:12] <hitest> cool
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[20:14] <godling> fire|bird: there is cdda2wav but you can use libparanoia with that
[20:14] <danc3> fire|bird: there's also 'grip'
[20:14] <mancha> and here's a perl script that'll do it:  perl -e 'system("cdparanoia -B");print "(C) 2009 mancha\n";'
[20:14] <RipVanWinkle> asunder is a good cd ripper too
[20:15] <fire|bird> ok, I have cdparanoia going, then I'll use picard to tag em, and then convert them.
[20:15] <quasar> picard > *
[20:15] <fire|bird> picard is awesome
[20:15] <RipVanWinkle> captain of the starship Enterprise
[20:15] <godling> mancha: my script also converted the tracks to mp3, looked up the tag info from freedb, and tagged the mp3s. :P
[20:15] <godling> mancha: do that in one line
[20:15] <mancha> that'll cost you extra
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[20:16] <godling> :P
[20:17] <godling> fire|bird: it appears that many linux cd ripping utilities use cdparanoia or libparanoia
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[20:17] <godling> I don't know if k3b does
[20:17] <mancha> mingdao, what is lame's default, do you know off hand?
[20:18] <fire|bird> godling: cool. I haven't ripped a CD since using slack, I already had my music in /home before switching to slack, so I figured I'd ask. :)
[20:18] <fire|bird> Cool, first cd's done ripping.
[20:18] <godling> I haven't ripped any music since before I moved out here to go to school.
[20:18] <godling> all my cds are in storage
[20:19] <godling> (audio cds, I mean)
[20:19] <mancha> probably --preset standard or summit
[20:19] <mingdao> mancha: 16 bit iirc
[20:20] <mingdao> there might also be some ./configure options ... I'm just using the Slack default and haven't ripped a CD in a coon's age
[20:21] <mancha> i guess to be safe, i'd do your loop with lame  --preset standard (or higher if you've got dog ears or $12,000+ sound systems)  :)
[20:21] <godling> mancha: the default bitrate for lame is 128 for MPEG1 and 64 for MPEG2 according to the man page
[20:21] <godling> I thought it was 64 all around
[20:21] <fire|bird> argh, I hate it when no tags are found in picard. :P
[20:22] <godling> I broke picard last time I used it.
[20:22] <fire|bird> What is another app for tagging that uses cddb? I know cddb has this album already.
[20:23] <godling> I was download album art and something happened to make the window resize itself to some huge size
[20:23] <godling> fire|bird: easytag
[20:23] <quasar> fire|bird: musicbrainz lists a few others on their site
[20:23] <fire|bird> godling: oh yeah, I forgot easytag
[20:23] <fire|bird> thanks
[20:23] <quasar> some based on their engine or whatever it is that picard uses
[20:23] <mancha> cd-discid firebird
[20:23] <Scuzz> thanx fire|bird im all good now
[20:24] <Scuzz> helps when you isntall the proper wway
[20:24] <mancha> er, nm, misread the Q
[20:24] <godling> fire|bird: easytag is quirky
[20:24] <mancha> isn't easytag a gui where you fill int he firlds?
[20:25] <godling> what do you mean mancha?
[20:25] <mancha> i didn't know easytag dl'd records from cddb
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[20:26] <godling> It uses freedb by default, I think.
[20:26] <mancha> i thought it was a manual tagger. but then again, i don't know much
[20:26] <andarius> http://easytag.sourceforge.net/
[20:26] <andarius> i have had good luck with easytag personaly
[20:26] <godling> andarius: yes, it is useful
[20:27] <godling> andarius: it is quirky with album art
[20:27] <andarius> i have also had good luck there
[20:27] <andarius> though i will admit i do not use it a lot
[20:29] <godling> I used easytag to rearrange my entire library and retag it to make it more friendly for my ipod.
[20:31] <fire|bird> There, got easytag building. Thanks alot for the help guys.
[20:31] <godling> Oh, I didn't break picard. I thought it was another program. The program I broke was also a python app, though.
[20:31] <fire|bird> haha
[20:32] <godling> the program I am thinking of was specifically for album art
[20:32] <fire|bird> I love picard, but these couple cd's just came out this past Tuesday, so they aren't in the db yet.
[20:32] <deco> fire|bird: what artist ?
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[20:35] <fire|bird> deco: Three Days Grace and Five Finger Death Punch
[20:35] <deco> fire|bird: ......
[20:36] <fire|bird> what? :P
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[20:36] <deco> fire|bird: nothing :P
[20:37] <fire|bird> lol
[20:37] <deco> lol
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[20:41] <quasar> YAY MR JINGLES IS ALRIGHT !
[20:41] <fire|bird> haha, I have to convert them first, easytag doesn't like wav files
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[20:44] <slava_dp> so i've finally upgraded my spring xorg 1.4 -current box to slackware 13.0. now my keyboard and mouse don't work in X.
[20:44] <fire|bird> sweet, flac -8 input output \o/
[20:44] <slava_dp> any quick hint?
[20:44] <thrice`> remove your xorg.conf
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[20:44] <slava_dp> did that
[20:44] <fire|bird> wb hitest :)
[20:45] <thrice`> promise? :)
[20:45] Action: slava_dp looks
[20:45] <hitest> ty:) fire|bird
[20:45] <slava_dp> absolutely
[20:46] <thrice`> ok, so you've upgraded xorg only ?
[20:46] <thrice`> anything else unique about your system ?
[20:46] <slava_dp> nay, it's complete 13.0 now.
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[20:47] <slava_dp> an average system. ps/2 keyboard and mouse.
[20:47] <thrice`> ok, and a relatively full install ?  namely, xf86-input-evdev ?
[20:48] <slava_dp> full install except koffice and kdei (not that those matter)
[20:48] <thrice`> xorg will now ask hal for a list of devices; with typical mouse/keyboards, it'll use the evdev driver
[20:48] <slava_dp> i have evdev.
[20:48] <thrice`> ok, hum.  did you parse the log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)  to see if it says anything useful about your mouse/keyboard ?
[20:49] <deco> we got reall questions now ? :P
[20:50] <slava_dp> it's 4 am here so i'm a little sleepy :) will look at the log now.
[20:50] <deco> real*
[20:50] <fire|bird> deco: Yup, the real questions come when we shut up. :P
[20:50] <deco> fire|bird: lol true
[20:50] <hitest> lol
[20:51] <slava_dp> besides.... will slack13 work on a 2.6.27.9 kernel (dec 2008) ?
[20:51] <slava_dp> cause that's what i have booted currently
[20:51] <fire|bird> slava_dp: Have you tried booting to slack 13's kernel?
[20:51] <thrice`> um, should
[20:52] <slava_dp> fire|bird: i will try that, surely.
[20:52] <fire|bird> slava_dp: ok, just a thought. It may rule the kernel out anyway.
[20:52] <thrice`> it'll reload the messagebus rules too
[20:53] <fire|bird> argh, easytag has half frozen.
[20:53] <godling> kill half the process
[20:53] <godling> ;P
[20:53] <fire|bird> hahaha
[20:53] <slava_dp> xorg log says cannot locate a core {pointer,keyboard} device.
[20:53] <slava_dp> tells me to go ask hal.
[20:54] <thrice`> i'd indeed reboot into the proper kernel
[20:54] <godling> reboot!
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[20:55] <slava_dp> k, thanks guys, i'll be off to bed for today, tell you tomorrow how it went. thanks for the hints.
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[20:56] <fire|bird> dang, easytag doesn't see the tags either. kaudiocreator got them. what the.....
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[21:01] <hitest> bbl, dinner time:)
[21:01] <fire|bird> uh oh, brb.
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[21:01] <jeev> we know you love dinner
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[21:03] <Quiznos> hi
[21:04] <deco> hi
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[21:04] <hcfd> hi
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[21:06] <deco> wb fire|bird
[21:07] <fire|bird> $@%$*&!%$#@, my dvd drive just went out. ARGH
[21:07] <fire|bird> deco: thanks
[21:07] <fire|bird> This is twice now, THIS YEAR
[21:07] <Quiznos> you dint go with it?
[21:07] <fire|bird> LG SUCKS, or at least this drive does
[21:07] <Quiznos> lg isnt a bad .com
[21:07] <deco> another one abused by fire|bird  :(
[21:07] <Quiznos> they are prolific
[21:08] <fire|bird> This is horrible. Two drives in one year, that is NOT good. It just, like that, goes out. Then it is as if it has no power to it, no nothing.
[21:08] <Quiznos> c-founder of twitter on cspan
[21:08] <fire|bird> well, a little less than a year
[21:08] <Quiznos> email lg then; ask em for a replacement
[21:08] <fire|bird> thank gosh for still having a samsung external burner.
[21:09] <Quiznos> wait, dont you have a warranty on those devs?
[21:09] <fire|bird> I've done that once, already.
[21:09] <Quiznos> if they're less than a year
[21:09] <fire|bird> yeah, I should still have the warranty
[21:09] <Quiznos> kool
[21:09] <fire|bird> but this is bad, 2 drives already, do I even want to mess with another one? :P
[21:09] <Quiznos> maybe wiht the store too?
[21:09] <fire|bird> I got if from Newegg
[21:09] <Quiznos> sure, lg isnt bad, the hw you buy is
[21:09] <Quiznos> ok
[21:10] <fire|bird> Yeah, I know lg isn't bad, they are a well known brand, but what is up with these drives. :P
[21:10] <Quiznos> if it were a hd, i'd worry, but with a dvd rw?
[21:10] <Quiznos> what's your locale?
[21:10] <fire|bird> I'm in the midwest
[21:10] <fire|bird> The last one, I had a new one in a few days.
[21:10] <Quiznos> lefto r right on the plain?
[21:10] <Quiznos> o r/or
[21:11] <Quiznos> could be just stray electrons
[21:11] <Quiznos> or neutrons
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[21:12] <fire|bird> yeah, it just up and has no power to it, no nothing.
[21:12] <fire|bird> no warning, no nothing
[21:13] <fire|bird> It's just a tad upsetting ya know. Drives shouldn't go out this often. :P This must have been a bad batch
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[21:15] <andarius> plextor ftw ;)
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[21:15] <Quiznos> fire|bird yea
[21:15] <Scuzz> lol
[21:15] <Scuzz> i still use plextor
[21:15] <fire|bird> andarius: Which plextor do you have?
[21:16] <andarius> an older px-716a
[21:16] <Scuzz> i have a px-755sa in this comp
[21:16] <Scuzz> old machine has a ultraplexwide
[21:16] <Scuzz> and a plecwriter
[21:16] <fire|bird> Quiznos: I could just as well get another one from LG, it's not like it costs me anything. :P
[21:16] <Quiznos> sure
[21:17] <fire|bird> They pay shipping and all
[21:17] <Quiznos> kool
[21:17] <fire|bird> great, slack isn't seeing the external one. :/
[21:17] <deco> i got a cheap  external hp dvd-rw driver been good with me for the past 2 years
[21:18] <fire|bird> Let me guess, that's probably my kernel, huh?
[21:18] <Quiznos> yea may have dirty power waves
[21:18] <deco> drive* grrrrr
[21:19] <Quiznos> too bad figering that out would be
[21:19] <andarius> fire|bird: is your kernel a custom build?
[21:19] <Quiznos> non-intuitive
[21:19] <andarius> dmesg should tell you if the drive was detected
[21:20] <fire|bird> andarius: yeah
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[21:20] <fire|bird> nope, not detected
[21:20] <fire|bird> I'll reboot to the slack kernel, but first, bbiab
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[21:51] <fire|bird> dangit, even on slack's kernel, this drive isn't showing up.
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[21:52] <Scuzz> usb drive ?
[21:52] <fire|bird> external dvd burner
[21:52] <fire|bird> usb
[21:52] <Scuzz> cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
[21:53] <Scuzz> does it show a driver
[21:53] <Scuzz> or = none
[21:54] <RipVanWinkle> nothing in dmesg or messages?
[21:54] <fire|bird> Scuzz: usb-storage
[21:54] <fire|bird> This has worked great before on slack, something isn't right.
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[21:56] <fire|bird> RipVanWinkle: Last lines in dmesg, http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/rUI1c177.html <---I don't know if this is from the external one now, or from the internal one that went out. iirc, the external one also showed up as sr0
[21:57] <fire|bird> Whoa, kaudiocreator, etc. sees it, just isn't showing in thunar.
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[21:57] <fire|bird> y0 mfillpot
[21:58] <mfillpot> yo
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[21:58] <mfillpot> is anything interesting happening today?
[21:58] <fire|bird> my dvd burner took a crap. :P
[21:58] <Scuzz> does this server have a vhost channel ?
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[21:58] <thumbs> Scuzz: are you referring to apache httpd?
[21:59] <Scuzz> no virtual host to hide ip
[21:59] <Scuzz> on irc
[21:59] <Pig_Pen> hmm, either the disk went south, or some electronics in the enclosure
[21:59] <godling> Scuzz: you can request a cloak in #Freenode
[21:59] <fire|bird> Pig_Pen: but kaudiocreator sees it, so it can't be too bad.
[21:59] <Scuzz> thank you sir
[21:59] <Pig_Pen> try it on another PC to make sure furst
[21:59] <godling> Scuzz: if you do a /wi on me then you can see waht it looks like
[21:59] <fire|bird> My internal one went out, this external one is just not showing up.
[21:59] <fire|bird> Pig_Pen: I'll try it on the laptop
[22:00] <Scuzz> yeah i see it
[22:00] <Scuzz> i normaly look for vhost channels
[22:00] <Quiznos> fire|bird chk bios settings
[22:00] <Scuzz> but didnt see one on this server
[22:00] <fire|bird> Quiznos: they're all good.
[22:00] <Pig_Pen> fire|bird: this is a external CD or DVD burner?
[22:00] <Quiznos> k
[22:00] <fire|bird> Pig_Pen: DVD
[22:00] <fire|bird> laptop sees it right away.
[22:00] <Quiznos> fire|bird use different hole?
[22:00] <fire|bird> that's what she said
[22:00] <fire|bird> :P
[22:00] <fire|bird> couldn't resist
[22:00] <Quiznos> heh
[22:01] <Pig_Pen> because those errors look like something you would see with a bad harddrive, could be not identifying it correctly
[22:01] <Quiznos> usre :)
[22:01] <fire|bird> Quiznos: tried that too. :D
[22:01] <Quiznos> k
[22:01] <Quiznos> dust on points?
[22:01] <fire|bird> laptop sees it perfectly, no issues.
[22:01] <Quiznos> k
[22:01] <Quiznos> too bad some devs arent wireless
[22:02] <fire|bird> However dmesg shows those same messages as what I pasted
[22:02] <Pig_Pen> could be a hal or udev thing having a brainfart
[22:02] Action: fire|bird gives hal some beano
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[22:04] <godling> fire|bird: can you use it via your laptop?
[22:04] <fire|bird> godling: yeah
[22:04] <fire|bird> or, the laptop has a drive itself
[22:04] <godling> I know it's not the optimal solution, but whatever works :0
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[22:04] <godling> * :)
[22:04] <godling> is usb-storage the only module that is required?
[22:05] <godling> I seem to recall some scsi crap being needed for usb storage
[22:05] <fire|bird> I am not sure. I never paid attention to that, it always just worked. :P
[22:05] <godling> oh, it worked before?
[22:05] <fire|bird> yeah
[22:05] <fire|bird> used to
[22:05] <fire|bird> and by used to, I mean earlier this year.
[22:05] <godling> do you still have the older kernel on that particular machine?
[22:06] <fire|bird> godling: yeah, that's what I'm on atm. slack 13's 2.6.29.6
[22:06] <godling> ...but it's not working?
[22:06] <Quiznos> damn, the sour creme (sic) that i bought today isnt real
[22:06] <godling> cream, that sucks Quiznos
[22:06] <Quiznos> it's got a list a mile long
[22:06] <Quiznos> no, creme
[22:06] <Quiznos> ew
[22:06] <godling> haha
[22:06] <Quiznos> hfcs too
[22:06] <godling> they can't call it cream legally, I guess ;P
[22:06] <fire|bird> godling: Well, half way, kaudiocreator sees the drive, thunar, pcmanfm, doesn't. weird
[22:07] <Quiznos> heh
[22:07] <fire|bird> godling: well, they can if they call it artificial cream :P
[22:07] <Quiznos> package says "unreal" too
[22:07] <Quiznos> but did i read it?
[22:07] <fire|bird> no
[22:07] <Quiznos> no (sing song)
[22:07] <fire|bird> :P
[22:07] <godling> fire|bird: did you upgrade thunar?
[22:07] <fire|bird> Is there really much food out there anymore that's real? :P
[22:07] <godling> er, xfce
[22:08] <godling> define real
[22:08] <fire|bird> godling: no
[22:08] <Quiznos> fire|bird yea, but you have to look for it
[22:08] <godling> organic foods are expensive
[22:08] <fire|bird> Quiznos: yeah, I know. :P
[22:08] <Quiznos> i buy frozen peas/carrots
[22:08] <Quiznos> eggs; bacon; other meats
[22:08] <Quiznos> spugetty and sauce
[22:08] <fire|bird> Well, I guess I'll switch focus to getting these darn cd's tagged. easytag doesn't find the tags, picard doesn't find them, argh.
[22:08] <Quiznos> heh spugetty
[22:09] <godling> spagetty/1
[22:09] <Quiznos> spuhgetty
[22:09] <godling> o_O
[22:09] <Quiznos> fire|bird some foods at teh dollar store just arent worthy
[22:10] <fire|bird> Well dang, cddb (i.e. gracenote) doesn't have either cd, apparently the one cd has it's own tag info. :/
[22:10] <godling> fire|bird: I guess you'll have to key it in by hand
[22:10] <fire|bird> Quiznos: for sure. There's a dollar store here in town, I would NEVER buy any food item from there. :P
[22:10] <godling> OH THE HORROR
[22:10] <andarius> submit an update :P
[22:10] <Quiznos> fire|bird not all are bad
[22:10] <fire|bird> andarius: Oh I will. :)
[22:11] <godling> just make sure you spell things correctly
[22:11] <fire|bird> whut?
[22:11] <fire|bird> :P
[22:11] <Quiznos> fire|bird what i'm beginning to avoid of late is soy-contaminated foods
[22:11] <deco> fire|bird: low blow :P lol
[22:11] <Quiznos> fire|bird it's the new "vegetable" oil
[22:11] <Quiznos> has been for years
[22:11] <godling> Quiznos: soy reduces sperm motility
[22:12] <Quiznos> nods and other stuff
[22:12] <andarius> t h i n g z :o
[22:12] <Quiznos> i bought preztels too today; i think i'll use mustard instead of "creme"
[22:12] <godling> It's ok, I don't plan on having a baby anywyas.
[22:12] <fire|bird> lol
[22:12] <Quiznos> lol
[22:12] <Quiznos> taht's a bad one to break a commandment on
[22:13] <godling> I also carry my cellular phone in my hip pocket, right next to my junk.
[22:13] <Quiznos> lol
[22:13] <godling> so the radiation is probably hitting me right in the nads
[22:14] <fire|bird> hahahaha
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[22:14] <Quiznos> ew lol
[22:14] <mrselfpwn> these lenovo s10's are durable
[22:15] <Quiznos> mmm brown mustard
[22:15] <godling> mrselfpwn: you dropped one? ;P
[22:15] <Quiznos> 3 now
[22:15] <mrselfpwn> yeah, i just flipped it off the arm of the couch again.
[22:15] <godling> haha
[22:15] <godling> oops
[22:15] <Quiznos> threw?
[22:15] <mrselfpwn> knocked me off the internet lol
[22:15] Action: Quiznos blinks
[22:16] <fire|bird> lol
[22:16] <mrselfpwn> did a shutdown -hF now
[22:16] <mrselfpwn> seems to be alright now
[22:16] <godling> if you keep dropping it then eventually it won't be :P
[22:17] <mrselfpwn> well, i don't do it on purpose.
[22:17] <Quiznos> pick em up, blow dust off em, reuse.
[22:17] <Quiznos> 5s rule applies
[22:17] <Quiznos> lol
[22:17] <mrselfpwn> yeah
[22:18] <Quiznos> coffee's ready and cooling.
[22:18] <mrselfpwn> i'm saying i've dropped this one about 10 times now and it still kicks like a champ
[22:18] <Quiznos> what are you talking bout, willis?
[22:19] <Quiznos> a fon?
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[22:19] <mrselfpwn> lenovo ideapad s10
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[22:19] <godling> Quiznos: lenovo s10
[22:19] <Quiznos> ah
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[22:19] <Quiznos> so bigger than a bread box?
[22:19] <mrselfpwn> 10.2 inch screen
[22:19] <Quiznos> ah
[22:20] <mrselfpwn> i like it better than full sized laptops now that i've had it for a while
[22:20] <Quiznos> nods
[22:20] <Quiznos> tablet?
[22:20] <godling> Quiznos: You have an amazing ability to have a conversation without knowing what the premise is :P
[22:20] <mrselfpwn> yes
[22:20] <Quiznos> rofl; tyvm :)
[22:20] <mrselfpwn> it's a netbook
[22:20] <Quiznos> gotcha
[22:20] <godling> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2008_Taipei_IT_Month_Day2_Lenovo_Ideapad_S10.jpg
[22:20] <Quiznos> see, the prob isnt with me, it's with undefined pronouns
[22:20] <Quiznos> :)
[22:21] Action: godling undefines Quiznos' pronouns.
[22:21] <Quiznos> godling i practice that skill0rz here
[22:21] <Quiznos> lol
[22:21] <mrselfpwn> well you go along like you know wtf we are talking about.
[22:21] <Quiznos> tht's actually a BBunny/Daffy dialog line
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[22:21] <Quiznos> heh i saw the original lenovo define
[22:21] <mrselfpwn> i'll congratulate you on the fact that you can fake the funk.
[22:21] <Quiznos> lol
[22:21] <godling> funk?
[22:22] <Quiznos> ty
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[22:22] <Quiznos> hood-speak
[22:22] <mrselfpwn> you know, the funk.
[22:22] <Quiznos> pseudo-newspeak
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[22:22] <godling> there is no funk. he said "what are you talking about willis"
[22:22] <godling> that is not funky
[22:22] <Quiznos> lol
[22:22] <godling> :)
[22:22] <mrselfpwn> no no, the funk is actually a living breathing creature
[22:22] <Quiznos> then you dont know americana
[22:22] <Quiznos> lol
[22:22] <mrselfpwn> I cought the funk.
[22:23] <Quiznos> `funk' is pre-ebonics
[22:23] <Quiznos> it's street lingo
[22:23] <Quiznos> early 70s lingo
[22:24] <Quiznos> think Earth, Wind and Fire.
[22:24] <Quiznos> or War
[22:24] <godling> don't jive me
[22:24] <Quiznos> or, Sly and the Family Stone
[22:24] <Quiznos> Al Green
[22:25] <godling> *ahem*
[22:25] <godling> James Brown?
[22:25] <Quiznos> sure
[22:25] <mrselfpwn> i'm James Brown bitch!
[22:25] <fire|bird> Alright, one album tagged.
[22:25] <Quiznos> i dint write a exhaustive list
[22:25] <Quiznos> ay
[22:25] <Quiznos> yay
[22:25] <godling> fire|bird: you type slowly
[22:25] <godling> ;P
[22:26] <Pig_Pen> the worlds fastest motorcycle goes 372 mph
[22:26] <godling> Pig_Pen: which one is that?
[22:26] <Quiznos> is that all?
[22:26] <Quiznos> i thought they ran the salt lake speeds
[22:26] <Pig_Pen> http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/499/4676/Motorcycle-Article/BUB-Racings-Chris-Carr-Breaks-Speed-Record.aspx
[22:26] <fire|bird> godling: 65-70 wpm :)
[22:26] <mrselfpwn> anyway, enough playing around you jive turkey. if you want a durable netbook get the s10
[22:26] <Quiznos> ty
[22:27] <godling> mrselfpwn: you work for lenovo?
[22:27] <Quiznos> how much?
[22:27] <mrselfpwn> no.  i just like to help my fellow man.
[22:27] <Pig_Pen> actuallt 367 officially went in to the record books but it did manage to get to 372
[22:27] <godling> Pig_Pen: where do you put the tail-lights?
[22:27] <mrselfpwn> and sheeppeople
[22:28] <Quiznos> how much for s10?
[22:28] <mrselfpwn> i got mine for 308 including s/h though it was used
[22:28] <Pig_Pen> no need, that bike will never be street legal
[22:28] <godling> haha. He broke the motorcycle land-speed record and his last name is Carr, get it?
[22:28] <mrselfpwn> i think around 350
[22:28] <Quiznos> mrselfpwn is linux running on it?
[22:28] <mrselfpwn> yes
[22:28] <mrselfpwn> of course
[22:28] <Quiznos> godling ironic!
[22:28] <Quiznos> how did that install go?
[22:28] <godling> do you think?
[22:29] <Quiznos> which dist?
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[22:29] <fire|bird> godling: There, second one done. :)
[22:29] <mrselfpwn>  /facepalm
[22:29] <godling> mrselfpwn: thank you for giving me the desired reaction
[22:29] <Quiznos> heh
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[22:29] <godling> unless that was to Quiznos' question
[22:29] <Quiznos> it was proby
[22:30] <mrselfpwn> install went great. i added an atheros card.  the broadcom one you will need to get the driver from their site.
[22:30] <Pig_Pen> http://seven-streamliner.com/ theres an embedded youtube video about half way down the page
[22:30] <godling> in which case I retract my earlier statement and replace it with KEEP IT FUNKY
[22:30] <Quiznos> mrselfpwn ok; which dist?  would you write up a blog piece for google?
[22:30] <Quiznos> or webpage howto
[22:30] <mrselfpwn> slackware Quiznos
[22:30] <Quiznos> ok
[22:30] <godling> Is the goal to just make something go fast, Pig_Pen?
[22:31] <mrselfpwn> i have some extensive help in the lenovoS10 forums i've written.
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[22:31] <godling> mrselfpwn: wiki it up!
[22:31] <godling> for future s10 users
[22:31] <mrselfpwn> hmm, i guess i can do that
[22:31] <Quiznos> mrselfpwn (last one i think) are you aware of any real diff tween your comp and what's sold in stores, model- and spec-wise?
[22:32] <Quiznos> mrselfpwn it would be a help for me when i get mine (if i get) for univ
[22:32] <mrselfpwn> not sure what you mean.  i have the lenovo s10 the s10-2 is out now and it has some minor enhancements, i think a evdo card or something
[22:33] <Quiznos> spider crawls the pope
[22:33] <mrselfpwn> there is also the s10e
[22:33] <Quiznos> lol it's on video
[22:33] <Quiznos> ew
[22:34] <godling> hubless wheels on motorcycles == awesome
[22:34] <mrselfpwn> the great thing about the lenovo s10 is the extra screen real estate.
[22:34] <Quiznos> what i really need is a usb-hub like eth-hub for lanning
[22:35] <mrselfpwn> it allows for 1024x600 where as the s10e only let's you have 1024x576
[22:35] <Quiznos> nice
[22:35] <mrselfpwn> because it's only 10 inches and not 10.2
[22:35] <Quiznos> nods
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[22:35] <mrselfpwn> which for some programs problems occur if you don't have atleast the 600
[22:35] <Quiznos> how's the pixel spacing; are fonts clear and crisp?
[22:36] <mrselfpwn> yes
[22:36] <Quiznos> k
[22:37] <mrselfpwn> very durable of course and from the reviews even though they have the same hardware, the reviewers said the s10 seemed more responsive and quick than the other manufacturers netbooks.
[22:38] <Quiznos> how can that be?
[22:38] <Quiznos> bios?
[22:38] <Quiznos> ineffic. video subsys?
[22:38] <Quiznos> or just m#?
[22:38] <mrselfpwn> with the later kernels i had to apply patches to the broadcom drivers though and it was sort of a pain to track them down.  hopefully they have been fixed for the wireless
[22:39] <mrselfpwn> intel 945gma graphics.  clocked at 166 though can be overclocked up to 400 like the bigger laptop cards.
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[22:40] <mrselfpwn> at 166 and kms enabled i play wolfenstein enemy territory at around 20-30+ fps.
[22:40] <Quiznos> kool
[22:40] <mrselfpwn> which is pretty good considering.
[22:40] <Quiznos> yea
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[22:40] <Quiznos> is hd tv still 32fps?
[22:41] <mrselfpwn> haven't clocked it
[22:41] <Quiznos> would it be a spec element?
[22:41] <mrselfpwn> another reason i chose the s10 is because of the pci-e mini slot they come with.  no other netbook has them.
[22:41] <Quiznos> i mean, wouldnt
[22:42] <Quiznos> thats kool
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[22:42] <Quiznos> rat
[22:42] <mrselfpwn> how would i check the hdtv?
[22:42] <Rat409> yo
[22:42] <Pig_Pen> http://imagebin.org/65402 lol!
[22:42] <Quiznos> electronics specs
[22:42] <Quiznos> a standard spec sheet
[22:42] <mrselfpwn> hmm, it doesn't have a tv out if that is what you mean.
[22:42] <Quiznos> std+s
[22:43] <Quiznos> no; i'm off topic
[22:43] <mrselfpwn> where should I upload a wiki for it?
[22:44] <Quiznos> umm
[22:44] <mrselfpwn> Pig_Pen: lol, i've seen that one before.
[22:44] <Quiznos> EE dictionary i think
[22:45] <Rat409> fire|bird: got a background menu entry and setter in pekwm. borrowed,pieced together i use feh but also have a script using Esetroot. :) much more convenient.
[22:45] <mrselfpwn> Pig_Pen: what ever happened to suspenders?
[22:45] <Rat409> biab
[22:45] <Quiznos> ntsc is 30fps
[22:46] <Quiznos> hdtv 24fps
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[22:46] <Quiznos> or 25-30 fps
[22:46] <Quiznos> dep on tv-progressive scan or film-prograessive
[22:47] <fire|bird> Rat409: cool
[22:47] <Quiznos> but 24fps is more common
[22:47] <Reticenti> hey fire|bird
[22:47] <fire|bird> hey
[22:47] <Reticenti> hows it going?
[22:47] <fire|bird> great, thanks. you?
[22:48] <Reticenti> pretty good, I had my 21st birthday party last night :D
[22:49] <Quiznos> mrselfpwn then there's 60fps cuz 24 is flicker-seeable (slow)
[22:49] <fire|bird> Reticenti: awesome
[22:49] <Reticenti> also, i have a 5.7gb file I need to break into smaller bits so that I can transport it over usb drive, what tool would i use to do that?
[22:49] <Quiznos> wow; it's a mess
[22:49] <mrselfpwn> oh i understand Quiznos
[22:49] <godling> Reticenti: rar?
[22:49] <Reticenti> mmk
[22:49] <Quiznos> my lettuce hurts
[22:50] <godling> you could also just use split :P
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[22:50] <godling> but rar has a prettier interface
[22:51] <godling> Quiznos: why are you hurting your lettuce?
[22:51] <Reticenti> i need to transfer from linux to XP though :\
[22:51] <godling> ok, then use rar
[22:51] <Reticenti> myeah
[22:51] <deco> Quiznos: you should put some dressing on it
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[22:51] <Rat409> fire|bird: http://omploader.org/vMmZoZQ brb
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[22:53] <Aalinux> How can i check if it is installed or not?kernel-generic-2.6.27.4_smp-i686-1.tgz ,mkinitrd-1.3.2-i486-3.tgz,kernel-modules-2.6.27.4_smp-i686-1.tgz
[22:53] <Aalinux> I installed slackware
[22:54] <fire|bird> Rat409: that is really nice.
[22:54] <BP{k}> Aalinux: look in /var/log/packages/
[22:54] <fire|bird> howdy BP{k}
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[22:55] <BP{k}> fire|bird: howdy :)
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[22:55] <captainjuno> hello, i'm low on disks and i want to install slackware.  usually, i would use my dvd rw, but i don't have it with me
[22:55] <captainjuno> what disks do i have to have?
[22:56] <BP{k}> captainjuno: at least disk 1 and possible disk 2
[22:56] <mfillpot> captainjuno: if you can boot from a USB HDD then you can use the usb installer
[22:56] <godling> captainjuno: it's possible to do a usb installation
[22:56] <godling> ^^
[22:57] <mfillpot> captainjuno: of if you are using grub as a bootloader I found a guide that can use grub to trigger the usb installer from your hdd
[22:57] <captainjuno> BP{k}:  what's the difference between disk 1 and disk 2.  I guess what I'm asking is what do  I need d1 for?
[22:58] <captainjuno> mfillpot:  I don't have grub yet, just windows 7, so I don't know if that would work.
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[22:58] <captainjuno> i'll google the usb installer
[22:58] <godling> captainjuno: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php
[22:58] <godling> captainjuno: there is a list of what is in each image
[22:58] <mfillpot> captainjuno: the usb installer is where you write the usb boot image to a usb flash drive and boot from that
[22:59] <Quiznos> deco phew
[22:59] <Rat409> fire|bird: indeed :)
[22:59] <captainjuno> mfillpot:  i did not realize that there was a usb boot image for slackware
[23:00] <Quiznos> mrselfpwn if you want the excruciating details i was reading, goog "hdtv fps standard"
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[23:00] <Quiznos> mrselfpwn the confusion is plain @Crutchfield
[23:00] <mfillpot> captainjuno: ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/usb-and-pxe-installers/
[23:00] <Quiznos> hihi milf
[23:00] <Quiznos> :>
[23:01] <mfillpot> yo Quiznos, I just can't help but to think about those damn demon hamsters when I see your name
[23:01] <Quiznos> lol
[23:01] <Quiznos> wait
[23:02] <Quiznos> what hamsters?
[23:02] <Quiznos> on the tv thingy?
[23:02] <deco> playing guitar ?
[23:02] <mfillpot> Quiznos: whatever those damn things were in their commercials
[23:02] <Quiznos> ah
[23:02] <Quiznos> mfillpot congratulations, you have been successufly programed. now, go do what is appropriate.
[23:02] <Quiznos> :)
[23:03] <Aalinux> BP{k}: I installed ext4 filesystem. mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.27.7-smp -m ext3 -f ext3 -r /dev/sda5  , how would i change this ?
[23:03] <mfillpot> lol
[23:03] <Quiznos> break your wallet open, blow the dust off and spend a damn dollar :)
[23:03] <godling> mfillpot: 'spongmonkeys'
[23:03] <mfillpot> Aalinux: change ext3 to ext4 and change your kernel version for it to work
[23:03] <fire|bird> Aalinux: change ext3's to ext4
[23:03] <mfillpot> godling: I like that name
[23:03] <Aalinux> BP{k}: mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.29.6-smp -m ext4 -f ext4 -r /dev/sda5   is it correct ?
[23:03] <Quiznos> e3 to e4 is not simple
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[23:04] <Quiznos> and i think 4 is not relly down-compat
[23:04] <fire|bird> Quiznos: he's just doing an initrd, not converting one to the other.
[23:04] <Quiznos> k
[23:04] <BP{k}> Aalinux: run the following script: /usr/share/mkinitrd/mkinitrd_command_generator.sh
[23:04] <BP{k}> it will tell you what you need :)
[23:05] <Quiznos> ffox is growin on me now, but...
[23:05] <Quiznos> where do i reject `open window' on click?
[23:05] <godling> mfillpot: http://www2.printshop.co.uk/RatherGood/Shop/Toys/Spongmonkey_Soft_Toy/Product.html
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[23:06] <Quiznos> fire|bird where do i reject `open window' on click?
[23:06] <mfillpot> godling: that is funny, that is the most frightening stuffed animal I have even seen
[23:06] <Quiznos> mfillpot did you catch the "hey"-nod from the beast in the car?
[23:07] <Quiznos> i actualy think that nod is unseemly
[23:07] <Quiznos> lol
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[23:08] <Rat409> fire|bird: if you want it,i included the 2 scripts,my menu just edit paths  http://www.filefactory.com/file/a0ce602/n/rat409-dynabackground_tar_gz
[23:08] <mfillpot> It is sad, with all of my past bitching KDE4 is starting to grow on me
[23:08] <captainjuno> I'm reading about the usb installer and it says, "If you want to install Slackware using a local hard disk partition in case you copied the content of the Slackware CDROMs/DVD there already, that is also an option."  How do I locate the files if I have them on my windows partition?  Or can I not?
[23:08] <fire|bird> Rat409: awesome, thank you.
[23:08] <fire|bird> mfillpot: haha, I got kde 4.3.1 flying now with changing plasma's graphics system
[23:09] <mfillpot> fire|bird: how did you change it?
[23:09] <Quiznos> captainjuno include the win part in a slocate run
[23:09] <Quiznos> mount it IOW
[23:09] <Rat409> fire|bird: sure, glad to :)
[23:09] <Quiznos> to a stable location
[23:09] <Aalinux> vmlinuz-generic-2.6.29.6 , vmlinuz-generic-smp-2.6.29.6-smp , which should i use for mkinitrd , what's smp ,mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.29.6-smp -m ext4 -f ext4 -r /dev/sda5   is it correct ?
[23:10] <Aalinux> I'm in normal user now , doing "su" if i run mkinitrd -c -k 2.6.29.6-smp -m ext4 -f ext4 -r /dev/sda5 , will it do the job?
[23:10] <fire|bird> mfillpot: Alt + F2, kquitapp plasma-desktop, then Alt + F2 plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster  I really noticed a difference with that, but I'm sure, based on hardware, ymmv.
[23:10] <BP{k}> always use su - for one.
[23:10] <captainjuno> Quiznos:  I'm not very familiar with "slocate run"
[23:10] <Quiznos> just be root
[23:10] <Aalinux> Or i have to logout and login as root again.
[23:10] <Quiznos> captainjuno man it
[23:11] <fire|bird> mfillpot: Oh, wait, are you on 4.2? Then it's a bit different.
[23:11] <BP{k}> Aalinux: smp = Symmetric multiprocessing, the use of multiple CPUs. You want to use generic - smp most of the time
[23:12] <BP{k}> Aalinux: what's your CPU?
[23:12] <Quiznos> captainjuno that was a `slocate` run
[23:12] <Quiznos> "run" is not an optin.
[23:12] <Aalinux> BP{k}: Intel pentium D
[23:12] <fire|bird> mfillpot: for 4.2.x, it's Alt + F2, kquit plasma, then Alt + F2, plasma -graphicssystem raster
[23:12] <Quiznos> fire|bird where do i reject `open window' on click?
[23:13] <Quiznos> in ffox
[23:13] <BP{k}> Aalinux: you definatly want a smp then .. as I believe that is 64bit dual core ;)
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[23:13] <fire|bird> Quiznos: You mean so that instead of opening a new window, it opens a new tab?
[23:13] <Quiznos> yes
[23:13] <fire|bird> Quiznos: Edit ---> preferences ---> Tabs ---> check the top checkbox
[23:13] <captainjuno> Quiznos:  I think it understand it now.  It's just like searching for a file, right?  I guess I use the slocate command to search for a certain name in a certain location?
[23:14] <Quiznos> fire|bird tyvm.
[23:14] <fire|bird> yw
[23:14] <mfillpot> fire|bird: it works, how can I make this the standard for all profiles in this system?
[23:14] <BP{k}> captainjuno: man slocate. ;)
[23:14] <Aalinux> BP{k}: No , it's 32 bit
[23:14] <captainjuno> i'm in windows so i'm googling
[23:14] <Quiznos> captainjuno pre-search of the fs into a db that is static till the next run; slocate should be running already from crond
[23:15] <BP{k}> Aalinux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_D seems to disagree with you.
[23:15] <BP{k}> Aalinux: can you pastebin the output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[23:16] <Quiznos> Wizard of Oz out on blue disk
[23:16] <Quiznos> there were four w. oz movies made originally
[23:16] <fire|bird> mfillpot: edit the plasma .desktop file in  /usr/share/autostart/ For me, 4.3.1, it is plasma-desktop.desktop, for 4.2.x, it might be plasma.desktop
[23:17] <fire|bird> mfillpot: add -graphicssystem raster to the Exec line
[23:17] <Aalinux> Is it possible to mount ext4 fedora from slackware 13?
[23:17] <BP{k}> yes
[23:17] <thumbs> Aalinux: yes
[23:17] <Aalinux> BP{k}: I always download i386.iso and burn it to cd and it works for me.
[23:18] <Aalinux> BP{k}: I haven't yet selected 64X_86.
[23:18] <BP{k}> Aalinux: but we are not talking about what "works" here but about the physical processor. That are two different things. I can easily run slackware13 on both my 64bit computers, doesn't mean they have a 32bit processor.
[23:19] <Aalinux> BP{k}: How can i be sure if it is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[23:19] <BP{k}> Aalinux: as for your initrd, 1) I told you what command to use 2) I asked you to pastebin some information.
[23:19] <BP{k}> Aalinux: by answering my question.
[23:19] <godling> I think Aalinux is either a troll or exceedingly obtuse.
[23:20] <mfillpot> Aalinux: your cpu is 64-bit, but the output that BP{k} requested will confirm it
[23:20] <Aalinux> BP{k}: I have pastebin /proc/cpuinfo as pm to you.Have you got it?
[23:20] <BP{k}> Aalinux: preverable that would go into the mainchannel so that everyone one will benefit from that.
[23:21] <Aalinux> godling: I think , you are troll and interfere others topic.
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[23:21] <Aalinux> godling: You interfere , but can't have the solution.
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[23:21] <BP{k}> Aalinux: here's a little clue: "cpu cores       : 2"
[23:22] <Aalinux> BP{k}: Yes,
[23:22] <BP{k}> you desperatly want smp and seriously that is a 64bit processor.
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[23:23] <Aalinux> BP{k}: cpu coes  :2 == 64 bit , i didn't know that, thank you.
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[23:24] <mfillpot> Aalinux: is 1 core = 32-bit, then it is safe to assume that 2 cores = 64 bit
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[23:25] <Dominian> yeah
[23:25] <straterra> 2 cores isnt always 64 bit!
[23:25] <Dominian> I installed slackware 13 on a P4 processor.. didn't realize it was 64bit until I had it running :)
[23:25] <ccfreak2k> mfillpot, so a quad is 128? :)
[23:25] <Dominian> heh
[23:25] <BP{k}> I could combine me and kethry's computer .. I could have a 96bit computer ;)
[23:25] <fire|bird> lol
[23:25] <mfillpot> ccfreak2k: lol don't confuse others
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[23:28] <mfillpot> I have been wondering, what is the current news on the ARM project?
[23:28] <straterra> quite muscley
[23:28] <straterra> its been working out
[23:28] <Aalinux> During installation i selected one of my vfat partition to be mounted in /media  , i could not undo that on that time. now i see my C:\ vfat drive is mounted in /media , how can i unmount now , as i know unmounting a partition is like this  , umount /media/drive, but now the C:\ vfat partition takes the whole /media directory. What to do?
[23:29] <suid0> folks, I installed slack64 13.0 and now I'm facing the following situation.. free -m only shows Mem: 2947 of my 4GB of ram. anyone?
[23:29] <BP{k}> mfillpot: it's at version 13.0 with some updates and an maintained by MoZes and an official slackware port.
[23:30] <mfillpot> suid0: check top to see what is eating your memory
[23:30] <suid0> mfillpot: this is showing as total.. not as used or free
[23:31] <BP{k}> Aalinux: umount /media ?
[23:31] <mfillpot> BP{k}: suid0 are you running a 32 or 64 bit kernel?
[23:31] <suid0> mfillpot: 64bit
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[23:32] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> man, flash in linux really sucks
[23:32] <godling> BP{k}: 96 bit computer?
[23:32] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> any tips to improve it?
[23:32] <BP{k}> godling: yeah .. combined her 32bit and my 64 bits processor ;)
[23:32] <godling> oh, a joke
[23:32] <godling> :)
[23:33] <BP{k}> hehe :)
[23:33] <Aalinux> BP{k}: Ye, works, thinking so.
[23:33] <BP{k}> Kamus_H_Zwisch: improve what?
[23:34] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> flash, BP{k}
[23:34] <mfillpot> suid0: have you checked dmidecode to see if all of the memory is being detected?
[23:35] <suid0> mfillpot: how can I do that?
[23:35] <Aalinux> Is it possible to stop root login option from kdm, as i know some other linux distribution stopped root login option for security or issue something like that ?
[23:36] <godling> I was confused because there aren't any machines on thet market right now that use > 64 bit wide registers
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[23:36] <Aalinux> Why doesn't slackware stop root login option from kdm?
[23:36] <BP{k}> Aalinux: I am sure it is possible.
[23:36] <Aalinux> BP{k}: How
[23:36] <Aalinux> ?
[23:36] <BP{k}> Aalinux: who know, tried poking around kdm config?
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[23:36] <godling> Slackware doesn't hold your hand, Aalinux. It is a distribution for people who don't ask how and instead figure it out.
[23:36] <godling> :)
[23:37] <BP{k}> Aalinux: I don't use KDE so not much of a clue.
[23:37] <suid0> mfillpot: found it.. thx!
[23:37] <Quiznos> omg ff does Gopher in news ticker feeds
[23:37] <mfillpot> suid0: is it reading all memory installed in all proper slots?
[23:37] <quasar> Aalinux: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/allow-root-login-in-kdm-395382/
[23:38] <suid0> mfillpot: 1024 =[
[23:38] <quasar> of course, that's to enable, so to disable you would set to "false" instead of true
[23:38] <mfillpot> suid0: try this command " dmidecode -t memory|grep Size"
[23:38] <suid0> mfillpot: now I have to wait until tomorrow to check mobo specs
[23:38] <rk4n3> godling:  well, we can ask "how" sometimes - other dists are for people who don't care to understand how ...
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[23:38] <godling> rk4n3: yes, that's a better way to put it
[23:39] <rk4n3> :)
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[23:40] <Quiznos> no one remembers Gopher
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[23:41] <suid0> mfillpot: Maximum Memory Module Size: 4096 MB. is this the max my mobo supports?
[23:41] <godling> Quiznos: I remember gopher
[23:41] <Quiznos> how many slots you got?
[23:41] <Quiznos> godling ok phew
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[23:42] <Quiznos> suid0 how many slots?
[23:42] <godling> I wish someone would hurry up and invent a universal translator already.
[23:43] <suid0> Quiznos: 2
[23:43] <Quiznos> now multiply.
[23:43] <mfillpot> I think the best explanation of the dificulty of slack was from AlienBOB's interview "Slackware assumes you are smart!"
[23:43] <Quiznos> slack isnt difficult; it's fully documented; always has been.
[23:43] <suid0> Quiznos: hum.. trying to understand why the heck I can only see 3gb instead of 4
[23:44] <Quiznos> the difficulty is in the User's foundational level of knowledge.
[23:44] <Quiznos> on that we can blame MrGates for messing with the field lexicon.
[23:44] <quasar> Quiznos: ever get 13 to work?
[23:44] <mfillpot> suid0: can you pastebin the output dmidecode for us?
[23:44] <Quiznos> and also for not teaching users well.
[23:44] <Quiznos> quasar nop. on 12.2
[23:44] <quasar> ah, ok
[23:44] <godling> Quiznos: I played with gopher when I was younger, as a novelty. ;P
[23:44] <Quiznos> it's coming back as easier 'web'
[23:44] <Quiznos> or so i've read
[23:45] <mfillpot> Quiznos: I prefer the difficulty in slackware is with the users ability to learn and willingness to read
[23:45] <Quiznos> that too mfillpot
[23:45] <Rat409> fire|bird: did the link work?
[23:45] <godling> Quiznos: have you heard of PyGopherd?
[23:45] <quasar> I prefer to say it scales with the user's ability to google.
[23:46] <fire|bird> Rat409: yeah, thanks again. :)
[23:46] <Rat409> sure
[23:46] <Quiznos> users also do have a responsibility to study and mfillpot is right; they are complicit in the prob allegedly to Slackware but Slack isnt really the prob; it's the object of disdain.
[23:46] <Quiznos> godling you just told me ;)
[23:46] <suid0> mfillpot: sure
[23:46] <godling> Quiznos: Did I?
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[23:47] <mfillpot> Quiznos: well said
[23:47] <Quiznos> For me, back in '95, i was still a dos user when i switched to linux; i didnt have a prob. that and I also consumed unix-subjected books in the previous decade
[23:47] <Quiznos> godling yep
[23:47] <Quiznos> mfillpot ty
[23:47] <suid0> mfillpot: I was reading this output.. I see 1024 here.. doesn't make sense.. I bought 2gb.
[23:47] <Quiznos> but i'm the usual user of computers.
[23:47] <mfillpot> suid0: please post the pastebin in the open chat so others can review and potentially assist
[23:47] <Quiznos> i'm speeshul :)
[23:47] <suid0> mfillpot: http://pastebin.com/m625f479b
[23:47] <godling> suid0: consult your motherboard manual
[23:48] <suid0> godling: will do.. but only when I get there.. couple miles away
[23:48] <mfillpot> suid0: you can have 16GB installed, 4GB for each slot, it is reading 2GB in slot 1 and 1GB in slot 2
[23:49] <Quiznos> what we have to tell users is that ``when you use any Linux distro, you learn the distro; when you use Slackware, you learn Linux en toto.''
[23:49] <godling> huh huh
[23:49] <godling> you said toto
[23:49] <Quiznos> heh; latin
[23:49] <suid0> mfillpot: I saw that but I still don't understand. I'm sure I bought 2GB or at least this is what it was written
[23:49] <mfillpot> how can the godling not understand latin?
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[23:49] <Quiznos> suid0 read output of lshal and dmidecode
[23:50] <godling> mfillpot: you assume a great deal sirrah
[23:50] <rworkman> suid0: try swapping the memory stick locations
[23:50] <Quiznos> btw, the coffee is goodly (sic) tonite
[23:50] <rworkman> suid0: most likely, a stick of ram got labeled wrong or something.
[23:50] <godling> I've had that happen before, rworkman.
[23:51] <deco> Quiznos: you're the first person that i've seen use en toto, i understood because in spanish it's "todo"
[23:51] <godling> It was annoying because the shop I bought it from closed for the evening on Friday and I couldn't fix it until the next Monday.
[23:51] <Quiznos> deco ty but that's a wrong translatin :)
[23:51] <Quiznos> damn `o'
[23:51] <Quiznos> oooo o o o o o
[23:52] <Quiznos> there it is
[23:52] <mfillpot> suid0: if you are questioning the output in Slackware you can check cpuz in windows or check your bios to see what they read
[23:52] <deco> Quiznos: i still understood :P
[23:52] <rworkman> godling: ick
[23:52] <godling> you still can't spell Quiznos
[23:52] <suid0> rworkman: I'm already thinking a way to go back to the place I bought
[23:52] <godling> :)
[23:52] <Quiznos> heh godling
[23:52] <Quiznos> (goodly)
[23:52] <suid0> mfillpot: nop.. I guess the problem is more to a labeling prob.
[23:52] <godling> forsooth
[23:52] <rworkman> suid0: yeah, good move :)
[23:52] <godling> rworkman: story of my life :)
[23:53] <deco> lol
[23:53] <Quiznos> godling the best line from a 30s movie of prime-eavil england i ever heard was this;
[23:53] <godling> prime weevil?
[23:53] <BP{k}>  prime-anvil!
[23:53] <Quiznos> a knight on a horse rides through the king's woods and happens upon a local; to whom the knight says ``pray tell, sinner, what land is it?''
[23:53] Action: godling drops an anvil on BP{k} 
[23:54] <Quiznos> the plebe stammers in answering
[23:54] <godling> Quiznos: What movie?
[23:54] <Quiznos> duno; i saw it in a previuos century
[23:55] <Quiznos> a long long time ago
[23:55] <Quiznos> maybe google knows
[23:55] <Quiznos> pff; what am i saying
[23:55] <Quiznos> of course google knows
[23:56] <godling> Google knows everything.
[23:56] <Quiznos> LIES!!!
[23:56] <godling> Google sees all.
[23:56] <Quiznos> lol
[23:57] <mfillpot> all fear google it's worse than santa clause
[23:57] <Quiznos> btw, i cannot take credit for the line ``use a dist, learn a dist; use slack learn linux''
[23:57] <Quiznos> i read that on the web.
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[23:59] <mfillpot> it's saturday night, get your beers
[23:59] <Quiznos> i didnt get one :(
[23:59] <wubbster> its saturday night, get high and code something
[23:59] <wubbster> :D
[23:59] <Quiznos> i'm experminenting tonight :)
[23:59] <Quiznos> lol
[23:59] <godling> I would have to walk too far for beer.
[23:59] <Quiznos> local gas-beer store is already closed
[23:59] <godling> plus it might not go well with my motrin if I have to take any tonight
[23:59] <Quiznos> lol
[23:59] <Quiznos> WAIT A SEC
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