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[00:07] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:08] is the raid detected after booting is completed? [00:11] andarius: no. I have to manually assemble it every time. [00:12] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:12] heviarti (~heviarti@204.228.226.17) joined ##slackware. [00:12] andarius: no, I have to assemble it manually each time I boot [00:13] is this a true raid controller, software raid or an onboard fake-raid ? [00:16] twitter @s4lv4d0r [00:16] umm, no [00:17] andarius: it always starts right away, but I want it to start before everything mounts so I can put it's mountpoint and /dev/md0 in fstab and have it actually do something [00:18] AkiraYB_ (~FarSeer@201-92-81-46.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:18] andarius: software raid. 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[00:23] I keep my mp3s on a 4 disk raid 1 array [00:24] n0r13ga: I use software raid (fake raid), but not from linux itself. [00:24] diabel (~ruut@xdsl-1228.zgora.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [00:24] If I can get some bigger disks I'll probably move /home and /usr/src/ onto raid as well [00:25] I'd kill the president of paraguay with a fork for some 36 or 73 gig drives. [00:25] hopefully that won't be neccessary [00:26] my 18s are starting to die off [00:26] it would likely be much easier to pay 100 for a few 1 TB drives [00:26] Wait, Paraguay is the place where that girl model did the naked run through the streets in support of the World Cup team. Don't mess with Paraguay. [00:26] rob0: it's from Grosse Point Blank [00:27] I don't have a problem with Paraguay, or even Nicanor Duarte Frutos. [00:28] Stx_ (stx@freenode/staff/stx) joined ##slackware. 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[04:12] Nick change: Stx_ -> Stx [04:13] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:13] when i hit ctrl + alt + backspace, the hard drive shuts down (and then boots backup), how do I disable this ? [04:19] diabel (~ruut@xdsl-1228.zgora.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:23] when you hit ctrl+alt+backspace only your Xorg server should stop [04:24] WildWizard (~michael@ppp118-208-41-9.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [04:24] Who peed in your cornflakes this time? [04:25] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:25] diabel (~ruut@xdsl-1228.zgora.dialog.net.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [04:25] Ansa89: should.. but it does. and its annoying as the hard drive goes "clunk" each time [04:26] mmhh...it's strange :-s [04:27] i never heard about it.....google what said? [04:27] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:28] google said asdfasdfas [04:28] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:28] i tried "ctrl alt backspace powers down harddrive" and "ctrl alt backspace shuts down harddrive" [04:29] apm is not compiled in the kernel , so im like wtf. [04:30] btw kernel is 2.4.35 [04:31] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [04:32] maybe a driver problem of kernel 2.4.*? [04:51] diabel (~ruut@xdsl-1228.zgora.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [04:52] pete` (~user@064.a.007.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:01] diabel (~ruut@xdsl-1228.zgora.dialog.net.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:09] diabel (~ruut@xdsl-1228.zgora.dialog.net.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[08:55] PuffyBSD (puffy@cpe-24-164-168-183.hvc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [08:56] Ah he did not wait for the kick [08:58] i'm still surprised it's actually a human being [09:00] let's just say "it's alive" [09:00] Yeah. He must have serious mental problems. Would it be cpunches/bagira 's secondary personality? [09:01] naaah, this being with BSD in nick mentioned BSD [09:04] reminds me of the last time he came here, he used something like 4 different shell accounts, plus his home connection >< [09:09] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:10] Pumpkins1979 (~abmj@wikipedia/Pumpkins1979) left irc: Quit: Saindo [09:11] must be boring in bsd-land [09:13] Mowah (1000@c-d181e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [09:16] damn, "Kevin" set itself as female... hmmm [09:18] limac (~limac@ool-45745a6d.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [09:22] neonflux (~neonflux@38.99.102.165) joined ##slackware. [09:22] next time, someone should ask him/her about xmonad and wmii just to confuse it [09:25] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-78-70.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:27] john_dee (~id@95-29-144-49.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:29] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:31] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:32] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [09:33] is there any reason i don't have /home/limac/Desktop in slackware 13.1? [09:33] john_dee (~id@95-29-144-49.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:35] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A0C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:36] pickleyor (noone@72.86.92.106) joined ##slackware. [09:37] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:37] why would you have it? [09:37] have what [09:38] BVX (~error@boringvx.stalker.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:40] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:40] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [09:40] the folder [09:40] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A0C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:41] Is there an easy way to find out what partition some file is on? [09:48] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [09:48] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [09:49] josemanuel (~josemanue@78.1.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left irc: Quit: Saliendo [09:51] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [10:03] adaptr (~adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [10:08] ask alphageek :P [10:17] asarch (~asarch@187.132.140.247) joined ##slackware. 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[11:37] cali (~cali@unaffiliated/cali) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:40] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.176.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:40] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [11:49] anavel (~shandy@unaffiliated/anavel) joined ##slackware. [11:50] cali (~cali@ip-150.net-89-3-63.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:50] cali (~cali@ip-150.net-89-3-63.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Changing host [11:50] cali (~cali@unaffiliated/cali) joined ##slackware. [11:50] hello [11:51] i need a library... [11:51] libsamplerate.so.0 [11:51] can you heelp me? [11:52] GuardabosqueS: locate libsamplerate.so.0 -> /usr/lib/libsamplerate.so.0 /usr/lib/libsamplerate.so.0.1.7 [11:53] bash: /usr/lib/libsamplerate.so.0: No existe el fichero o el directorio [11:53] i'm spanish [11:53] file not found pupit [11:54] i just installed k3b but it do not runs, [11:54] k3b: error while loading shared libraries: libsamplerate.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [11:55] GuardabosqueS: library that you miss is probably installing with other package [11:56] pupit, yes, it said that it depends of ffmpeg, but i installed it yet... [11:56] GuardabosqueS: wget -c "http://www.mega-nerd.com/SRC/libsamplerate-0.1.7.tar.gz";tar -zxvf libsamplerate-0.1.7.tar.gz;cd libsamplerate-0.1.7;./configure;make;make install [11:57] lamah, thank you, I'll tell you results :)) [11:57] GuardabosqueS: ok [11:57] :)) [11:58] No, it is provided in Slackware 13.1. [11:58] yeah, what are you doing :p [11:58] I was just looking myself to be sure i'm not exagerating :p [11:59] i forgot how to check which file comes with which package [11:59] the package is cryptically named "libsamplerate" :) [11:59] pupit, simply grep for it in /var/log/packages/ [12:00] ah yes, thanks rob0 [12:00] (without the leading / on an absolute path, of course) [12:00] If you didn't do a full install, see MANIFEST [12:00] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [12:01] lamah, No se hace nada para `install-data-am' [12:01] :( [12:01] GuardabosqueS, ls /var/log/packages/libsamplerate* ? [12:01] GuardabosqueS followed bad advice. [12:01] if not, slackpkg install it [12:02] thrice`, no se puede acceder a /var/log/packages/libsamplerate*: No existe el fichero o el directorio [12:02] at least the bad advise didn't allow it to hit his system yet ;) [12:02] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4A171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [SeaMonkey 2.0.8/20100916182334] [12:02] no such file or directory in english xd [12:02] GuardabosqueS, I'm guessing you're not on slackware ? [12:03] Raggs (~x@99-29-0-126.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:03] dios mio GuardabosqueS :D [12:03] G, what Slackware version do you have? [12:03] thrice`, I dónt understand you, my english is poor... [12:03] Raggs (~x@99-29-0-126.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:03] pupit, oño hablas español?? [12:03] rob0, 13.0 [12:04] GuardabosqueS: no! me hablas espanol un poco poco :D [12:04] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [12:04] pupit, todo lo que tu quieras jajajajaja [12:04] GuardabosqueS, you probably tried the k3b package from 13.1 ? [12:04] shit i have to translate that... [12:04] no se puede acceder a /var/log/packages/libsamplerate*: No existe el fichero o el directorio [12:05] G, we understand that much. You do not have it installed. [12:05] thrice`, i only introduced sudo slapt-get --install k3b [12:05] GuardabosqueS: ajajajaja [12:05] If you had done a full install of 13.0, there would have been k3b [12:06] rob0, i think i did full install... [12:06] slapt-get is probably configured to pull in the 13.1 package [12:07] GuardabosqueS, tal vez lo encontraras aqui: http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/libsamplerate/ [12:07] steve__ (~steve@2a01:e35:2f15:490:200:4cff:fe9e:760c) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:08] thrice`, i'll look for my slaptgetrc, if you want [12:08] shonudo, lo miro gracias :) [12:09] GuardabosqueS: Tienes que utilizar las herramientas de Slackware que había trabajado con los paquetes, apt-get no es la mejor [12:09] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:10] pupit, para mi, que soy muy nuevo en linux, es lo mas sencillo... [12:10] GuardabosqueS: tengo? [12:10] Please stick to english in this channel. [12:10] There are spanish and portuguese channels too if you need local language support [12:10] he says he is new in linux [12:10] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.255.176.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:10] alienBOB, ok, i'm sorry [12:11] No problem GuardabosqueS [12:11] pupit, tienes is good [12:11] We all want to know what your issue is. If you speak another language, most of the people here will not be able to help you because they do not understand [12:12] GuardabosqueS: well thats all from google translate :) [12:12] heh :) [12:12] alienBOB, I know, but, in the other hand, my english is very bad :)) [12:12] pupit, :)) [12:13] pupit, if you want learn spanish, perhaps in private masage :) [12:13] GuardabosqueS: nah, dios mio is enough :) [12:13] pupit, ^_* [12:13] haha :D [12:14] GuardabosqueS: you do understand you didnt installed the whole/ALL Slackware? [12:15] perhaps I must compile the library in /usr/lib?? [12:15] pupit, i understand, but i think i installed all... [12:16] actually, libsamplerate wasn't in 13.0 [12:16] pupit: libsamplerate wasnt part of 13.0 [12:16] quasars (~agi@69-179-247-121.stat.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] ahmm ok [12:16] sahko: oh, sorry then [12:16] i thought it was [12:17] sahko: but he can install it from 13.1 right? [12:17] dont ask me [12:17] i see i can't [12:18] No se hace nada para `install-exec-am'. [12:18] test -z "/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig" || /bin/mkdir -p "/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig" [12:18] /bin/ginstall -c -m 644 'samplerate.pc' '/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/samplerate.pc' [12:18] GuardabosqueS: http://packages.slackverse.org/?v=1&p=581 [12:18] GuardabosqueS: try one of those mirrrors [12:18] the best solution is to install k3b from 13.0, not from 13.1 [12:18] GuardabosqueS, ls /var/log/packages/k3b* [12:19] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [12:19] pupit, i? in it [12:19] thrice`: k3b in 13.0 is not working well for vast [12:20] thrice`, /var/log/packages/k3b-1.0.5-i486-3sl [12:20] heh [12:20] hey I have a general question about slackware [12:20] sahko: yeah.. [12:20] when you want a package, like say dwm, and it's not in stock nor on Sbo, what do you do? [12:20] source? [12:20] pupit: yeah what? [12:20] like directly from the website? [12:20] sometimes you still have to build from source, quasars [12:20] sahko: its not slack package [12:20] hmm [12:21] so you have to manage updates of it yourself? [12:21] like check every so often [12:21] quasars, write a slackbuild :) [12:21] to make sure it's secure [12:21] quasars: yes [12:21] quasars: dwm doesnt make sense as a package [12:21] quasars, you can make a slackbuild, as thrice` suggests [12:21] sahko: why doesn't it make sense? [12:21] quasars: i have used it in the past [12:22] usually i find myself dealing with the problem when it's some new beta project [12:22] sahko, sure it does, just patch :) [12:22] ananke: because to configure it you rebuild it [12:22] ananke: because even if you want to change a colour you have to recompile it [12:22] brilliant [12:22] ananke: extracting it to /home or /usr/local is better [12:23] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [12:23] brb [12:23] and just a preference thing, do you guys prefer to build stuff in your home directory or somewhere in /usr [12:23] for example building the kernel or a package from outside [12:23] asarch (~asarch@187.132.140.247) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:23] at least they're up front about how ridiculous it is: "Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, its pointless to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid questions. There are some distributions that provide binary packages though." [12:24] GuardabosqueS: remove that package, you must be root, go to pkgtool and remove that k3b package, then install from here: http://packages.slackverse.org/?v=5&p=385 [12:24] pupit, I'll try [12:24] quasars: /home is for personal data or software used by individual users, that's my view. if i'm building it for the system, i prefer other locations [12:25] you know I really miss the awesome community of slackware [12:25] I'm using arch now [12:25] and I miss how impressively responsive you guys are [12:25] quasars: that depends on the time of day [12:25] arch is great, but the slackware community just trumps the others IMHO [12:26] ananke: well that's just when they respond, but usually within a day I get really thoughtful responses [12:26] I'll probably come back to slackware [12:26] darn you "once you go slack..." [12:27] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:28] and since you have to manage external packages yourself [12:28] do you guys keep a text file with a list of them or something [12:28] or do you just update when you remember [12:28] or when the new slackware release comes out or something [12:28] quasars, hm? packages are logged to /var/log/packages/ [12:29] slackpkg is a tool that handles updates [12:29] ah, but does that distinguish between external and stock packages? [12:29] because something like slackpkg would only do stock packages [12:31] uh oh [12:31] it got all quiet [12:31] this is like crickets chirping and me getting this angry glare [12:31] I'm scared [12:31] quasars: your nomenclature is confusing. 'external packages' would imply packages from some external repository [12:31] maybe I don't understand yoru question :> [12:32] troy (~troy@67.55.10.15) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:32] I mean for example a package I don't get from the stock slackware OR from slackbuilds.org [12:32] something like dwm (I guess) where I get the source [12:32] directly from the stie [12:32] and I build it myself [12:32] or maybe a package from Alien or Robby's repo [12:32] pupiteee (~p@unaffiliated/pupiteee) joined ##slackware. [12:33] I guess then updating those when you remember ? [12:33] ok [12:34] oh yeah [12:34] one thing I've been curious about [12:34] quasars: then it's your own package. not some 'external package' [12:35] troy (~troy@dsl-67-55-10-15.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [12:35] the lack of dependency management (automatic) is supposed to be so we don't have to install all this extra software just to use a program we want (optional dependencies, etc.). But this also means a full install is recommended to keep the deps in line, but a full install implies we're getting gigabytes of extra software we may or may not use [12:36] ananke: Oh ok. thanks for telling me the right term [12:37] k3b is running :)) [12:37] yeahhhh [12:37] tank you very much everybody :)) [12:38] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [12:39] quasars: and yeah, that's certainly an interesting paradox [12:40] alienBOB: do you always build KDE in a chroot? [12:40] checking dependencies isn't that hard, most software lists whats needed in the install directions [12:40] it's like the only way to get a truly clean system is to know each and every package, what it does, whether you need it or not, and how to maintain it properly [12:40] !felicicades, GuardabosqueS! [12:40] good deal [12:41] shonudo, the package you said :)) [12:41] nice [12:41] save the link to the repository, you may have use for it in the future [12:42] quasars: yep [12:48] alanteixeira (~alan@189-93-234-14.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [12:48] hey how do I make it say something like "*quasars " [12:48] quasars: /me [12:49] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.185.89) joined ##slackware. [12:49] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.185.89) left irc: Changing host [12:49] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:50] alanteixeira (~alan@189-93-234-14.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [12:51] alanteixeira (~alan@189-93-234-14.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [12:52] Action: quasars thanks ananke for being so awesome [12:52] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:53] john_dee (~id@95-29-147-24.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:55] quasars: /ame will do it to all channels you are in on that network [12:55] quasars: and /describe works as /me also [12:57] is the order of inserting rules for iptables important ? [12:57] yes [12:57] yes paisssad [12:57] rule matches are first come first served [12:57] think of it as a nest if loop [12:57] ok [12:57] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [12:58] if condition 1 true, do, if not move on to next if [12:59] let's suppose there's a rule (rule 1) which blocks ip address A.A.A.A, if a following rule is supposed to "unblock" it, does "rule 2" unblock A.A.A.A ? [13:00] no, because rule 1 blocked it [13:00] think nested if [13:00] if you dont know what it is. read up on it [13:01] ok [13:02] if you want it to unblock a certain port you need to specify it before making the more global block [13:02] ok [13:03] it goes thru each if, but if its blocked its blocked. it wont unblock [13:03] it sees no need to. it sees the first case and stops [13:04] dru1d (~grafzero@82.177.172.217) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:07] Action: quasars thanks pickleyor! [13:07] quasars (agi@69-179-247-121.stat.centurytel.net) left ##slackware. [13:07] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:09] mrcarrot (~lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:11] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:11] btw, http://lttng.org/content/screenshots [13:12] (ltt, ng) [13:12] what's the default log level of iptables if ever i add this simple rule [13:12] iptables -I INPUT 25 -j LOG [13:12] i hope it's kern.info [13:13] i believe it is the defaul.t [13:13] 25 LOG all -- 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 LOG flags 0 level 4 [13:13] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [13:13] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [13:14] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:16] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:16] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:16] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:18] paissad, sorry, you're right, it is kern.warning [13:20] Nick change: Watanuki -> watanuki [13:23] mancha, kern.warning or kern.info ? ^^ [13:23] warning is the default [13:24] ok [13:24] bennymack (~ben@cpe-72-231-198-162.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:24] weird [13:26] yes, that's it ... [13:28] dru1d (~grafzero@82.177.172.217) joined ##slackware. [13:29] but if i do something like this in /etc/syslog.conf [13:29] but does kern.info messages include kern.warn messages ? [13:29] huh? [13:29] sorry ... [13:29] ;) [13:31] anyone know how serious the rumors of mandriva going under are? [13:32] lf4 (~KJR@174-126-65-132.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] lf4 (~KJR@174-126-65-132.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Changing host [13:32] lf4 (~KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) joined ##slackware. [13:32] mandrowna [13:32] haha [13:33] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:33] mancha: what rumours? [13:33] wonder how long will the fork last. it's a shame to see that distro die [13:34] ananke: do you think opensuse will die too? whats the centiment inside its community? [13:34] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:34] sahko: i don't think anybody is even considering that as a remote possibility [13:36] mandriva's situation is vastly different. they've been struggling for ages, and never had the enterprise line matching redhat/suse [13:38] well, mandriva (and canonical) are mostly aiming the desktop instead of the server market. without an enterprise its difficult to be successful. novell differs though [13:38] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [13:38] i was reading http://blog.delouw.ch/2010/09/25/bye-bye-suse-welcome-fedora/ earlier [13:38] the novell suitors want the linux part (suse) but not the part that smells like turd [13:39] "@Work, Im mostly working with RHEL systems [13:39] sahko: no wonder that person is switching :) [13:39] its also the first post ive read actually saying how horrible package management in opensuse is. i thought it was just me [13:40] suse's build system is quite nice. what do you mean horrible? [13:40] mancha: from a user pov [13:40] sahko: that's an interesting point, too bad there are no actual arguments provided. generally everybody thinks just the opposite: zypper has been getting better [13:41] in fact, half of the article is filled with self-fulfilling prophecies: "Better quality control (obviously)" [13:42] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [13:42] yeah, i noticed that too. but dont have much experience with either so cant comment on that [13:43] doesn't look good for mandriva from o'er here at least. too bad... [13:43] yast2 is an unstable memory hog however, you can make it crash easily during the package dependency resolution [13:43] sahko: if you don't have much experience, then why are you agreeing with it? :) [13:43] the only graphic package manager tool i can bear is synaptic [13:44] adrien: i've never seen it happen [13:44] ananke: i didnt say i agree, i pasted that because it implies novell will cease to exist [13:44] zypper is CLI, which is something that a good portion of the people use [13:44] 13:35 sahko> its also the first post ive read actually saying how horrible package management in opensuse is. i thought it was just me [13:45] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:45] sahko: i read that as 'i'm in agreement with how horrible package management in opensuse is' [13:45] ananke: lots of constraint to solve, I mean, _lots [13:45] _ [13:45] but overall, I like opensuse [13:45] ananke: ah. yes, based on my limited experience with opensuse i agree with that point [13:46] waximum (~waximum@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) joined ##slackware. [13:46] sahko: out of curiosity, which aspects of it did you find to be horrible? [13:46] it's dangerous to form sharp opinions based on limited experience [13:46] dru1d (~grafzero@82.177.172.217) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [13:47] sahko: i ask, because there are only a couple package systems i've ever encountered that deserve the description of being horrible [13:48] ananke: sorry, i dont remember exactly atm. i didnt bother much. and i dont want to be inacurrate [13:48] i have used it ~week. didnt like it. pkgtools works better. end of story :) [13:49] sahko: that helps me gauge your scale. 'horrible' being a very vague one :) [13:49] adrien: what do you mean by contraint? [13:50] slapt-get [13:50] pickleyor: we discourage folks from using that here. [13:50] sahko: it's also interesting to see this person talk, on sept 25th, about mandriva being nearly bankrupt. that's a done deal [13:50] constraint: when I don't agree with the deps that would get pulled in when selecting some package and I force the settings [13:51] really? any particular reason thumbs? [13:51] hi all, is there a way to search through available software in slackware ? [13:52] pickleyor: because numerous folks broke their installations with it. [13:52] Raggs: search for what? [13:52] like web browsers [13:52] nothing specific atm [13:52] thumbs: odd. ive never had a problem with it. [13:52] Raggs: you can run ls /var/log/packages/* [13:53] Raggs: slackpkg can help you find software that hasn't been installed [13:53] Raggs: however, the package names do not tell you what type of application or library it is [13:54] ok, moving to the slack way from the debian way, still learnin [13:54] Raggs: you can also browse online mirrors. [13:54] Raggs: you need to scale down your expectations :) [13:54] limac (limac@ool-45745a6d.dyn.optonline.net) left ##slackware. [13:55] ananke, like i said, learning the slack way [13:56] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [13:56] dru1d (~grafzero@82.177.172.217) joined ##slackware. [13:57] i like slackware. its one of the fastest distros i think, and very minimal. thats a plus in my book [13:57] packages have dependencies regardless; you can't remove GTK on slackware nor debian and expect firefox to work, just because removepkg lets you :> [13:58] i wonder if vmware will buy suse. it would certainly improve their menu. they could give away OS with their hypervisor, akin to what microsoft does [13:59] i perfer virtualbox [13:59] vmware will own UNIX then, right? [13:59] pickleyor: whatever you prefer doesn't matter in this case :) [13:59] is 'owning unix' really worth anything? [13:59] probably not :) [13:59] may not matter to you, but it does to me, and thats all that matters [14:00] bragging rights? [14:00] lol [14:00] ecelis (ecelis@NetBSD.si) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:01] pickleyor: it doesn't matter in the issue i've mentioned [14:01] i have a curiosity question, for being minimal slackware seems to come with a ton of stuff in a "default" install [14:01] you know what i thinks dumb, gnome ditching pidgin for a half finished empathy [14:01] pidgin is just a clusterfsck [14:01] Raggs: Slackware isnt minimal in terms of packages [14:01] pidgin was never a gnome project, was it? [14:01] ClaudioM (~ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:02] Raggs, actually, slackware is probably one of the largest installs available [14:02] sahko, it also is using what seems like quite a bit of ram [14:02] that as it may be anake but until empathy is on par with it function wise, why remove it? tons of people used it and dont like the switch [14:02] ananke: pidgin is still the most mature product in that category, unfortunately. [14:02] Raggs, one way to measure this is slackware comes in 1 DVD, doesn't debian's last use 9 dvds? [14:02] Raggs: don't execute init scripts you don't need. [14:02] mancha, but one can install a complete debian with kde from one cd [14:03] Raggs: there, your RAM usage will be lowered. [14:03] http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ [14:03] thumbs: indeed [14:03] Raggs, how do you define "complete debian"? [14:03] Raggs: and you should not have unused RAM, either. [14:03] i have alot of unused ram a well [14:03] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Roin_ (~florian@p5B2BECCF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] mancha not every app possible obviously [14:04] Raggs: run free -m [14:04] using 724 ram [14:04] Raggs, not sure how to respond, those definitions are way too vague :) [14:04] Raggs: see the buffers/cache [14:04] Raggs: Slackware provides an almost full command line , KDE and GTK+ interface in 1 dvd [14:05] thumbs, yes [14:05] that tries to match server and desktop needs as well [14:05] 724mb, could be worse.. [14:05] well, yes it could be worse [14:05] Raggs: I'm sure a big part of that 724MB is cached. [14:05] that seems quite high - gotta be cached [14:05] Roin (~florian@p5B2BE63B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Disconnected by services [14:05] Nick change: Roin_ -> Roin [14:06] my 13.1 desktop uses 300MB< by comparison [14:06] i'm using 450MiB for KDE4.4.3, konsole, mpd, ncmpcc, ssh, chrome, etc [14:06] with the nvidia binary drivers and desktop effects [14:06] hi, 54000 bytes here [14:06] errr, 54000kbytes [14:07] thumbs, this is the free -m http://pastebin.ca/index.php [14:07] Raggs: wrong link. [14:07] http://pastebin.ca/1949076 [14:07] oops [14:07] Raggs: what the heck are you running? [14:08] terminal xchat kde [14:08] Raggs: do you have a balooning Firefox instance? [14:08] neat. so slack 8.1 had 555 packages, while 13.1 has 1123, essentially double the number [14:08] caching is a good thing [14:08] or did you buy your ram to have it sit unused? [14:08] no firefox running at all [14:08] doesnt xchat use gnome libraries? [14:09] i thought there was kvirc for kde [14:09] pickleyor: no, it's gtk. [14:09] pickleyor: it likely does. [14:09] i never use it though, so idk [14:09] mancha: still, 724MB is high. [14:09] i use irssi on my slack [14:10] Info: Processes 259 Uptime 20:02 Memory 1198.3/7915.2MB Client X-Chat 2.8.6 inxi 1.4.14 [14:10] thumbs, so usage seems a little high? [14:10] most of my ram is cached for encryption [14:10] gotta remember slackware ships a FULL x.org, which makes up for 300 of those packages [14:10] Raggs: I think one of the processes has balooned up. Check with top, and RSS [14:10] dru1d (~grafzero@82.177.172.217) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [14:10] ananke: thrice has a point there [14:10] sahko: i do realize that [14:11] whats your opinion on slackware based distros like sabiyon? [14:11] i'm merely taking notice on the number of packages [14:11] pickleyor: that's not slackware based [14:11] not much showin in top thumbs [14:11] i thought sabiyon was the preinstalled gentoo distro? [14:11] pickleyor: you may be thinking of 'sabayon' which is gentoo based [14:11] Raggs: sort by memory usage! [14:12] oops meant salix [14:12] X 3% and nothing else even close [14:12] pickleyor: I like salix. [14:12] Raggs: show us that output too. [14:12] or zenwalk or wolvix [14:12] waximum (~waximum@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [14:13] thumbs, how [14:13] Raggs: you don't know how to cut and paste in X? [14:13] hmm, raggs, whats running in your cron? [14:13] thumbs, i dont know how to copy from the terminal that is running in [14:14] Raggs: highlight text with mouse, press middle button in pastebin. [14:14] pickleyor, no idea [14:14] artaud (~artaud@187.59.120.164) joined ##slackware. [14:14] artaud (~artaud@187.59.120.164) left irc: Changing host [14:14] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [14:14] thats highly unusual tbh [14:14] ive never seen slack use 700mb from just a few apps open [14:15] sahko: yes [14:15] how does one highligh a continually changing terminal out put [14:15] few apps? there's kde and chrome [14:15] Raggs: pause it [14:15] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:15] Raggs: usually, you pause it [14:15] oh, how [14:15] Raggs: there is a key on your keyboard for that - scroll lock :) [14:16] no there isnt [14:16] well i dont use kde so i dont know how much resources it uses by default [14:16] apple keyboard [14:16] Raggs: alternately, if you highlight the entire output faster enough, it'll remain in the Xorg buffer [14:16] s/faster/fast/ [14:16] Raggs: try ^S [14:17] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [14:17] you should have 3 buttons on top right of your keyboard. print screen, scroll lock, and pause/break [14:17] alienBOB: i never do, and i noticed a weird behaviour. when i change something as root, eg. the kdm theme from system settings where it asks for root pass, i always get a .config and .kde dir in / ( /.config and /.kde ). have you noticed anything like it or know why it behaves that way? [14:18] does Slack's KDE do that too or its just a matter of defining some root dir? [14:19] http://pastebin.ca/1949083 [14:19] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:19] Raggs: that's not sorted by RSS, but no matter [14:21] i have no idea how to sort it thumbs [14:21] Raggs: M [14:21] alienBOB: thats in 4.5.1 btw [14:21] Raggs: and you do have FIrefox running [14:21] yes, for paste.bim [14:21] when i ran free it wasnt [14:22] mine top: http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/ctrl4del/top.jpg [14:23] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [14:24] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Remember Panzer, A dear friend. [14:24] i am not overly concerned about the mem usage, i seem to have enough [14:25] just didnt seem optimal [14:25] initial boot up with KDE, httpd, samba has more than 500mb [14:25] again, is optimal unused ram? [14:26] dru1d (~grafzero@82.177.172.217) joined ##slackware. [14:26] empty plane seats? half-filled cargo ships? :) [14:26] as opposed to unused cache [14:26] Raggs: no such thing as unused cache. [14:26] i dont use httpd or samba [14:26] pupit: nice colour theme. [14:27] thanks :) [14:27] it looks strange that slack is using 700+mb, if that is normal fine, by pickleyor comment and others it doesnt seem "normal" [14:27] i had an amstrad 6128 that looked exactly like that [14:28] ..25 years ago [14:28] wish slackware would bring back dropline gnome :) [14:28] Raggs: can we see the output sorted with M ? [14:28] run top -m? [14:29] Raggs: no. [14:29] Raggs: press M while top is running [14:32] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:32] still doesnt look sorted but http://pastebin.com/PqwsbfMv [14:32] Raggs: capital M, not lower case m [14:32] that is not sorted, no [14:33] press capital M, not lowercase m [14:35] http://pastebin.com/4d87050Y [14:35] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [14:35] dru1d (~grafzero@82.177.172.217) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:36] wow, 32MB for konsole? [14:37] Raggs: what does uptime says? [14:38] 14:44:26 up 1 day, 16:11, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.17, 0.12 [14:38] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-78-70.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3 [14:38] look at knotify wow [14:38] you do have a significant amount of processes using an unusual amount of RSS. [14:39] should i be concerned? [14:39] Raggs: is this 13.1? 32bit or 64bit? [14:39] 13.1 64 [14:39] kde's caching out the wazoo. [14:39] if you like unused ram chips i'd worry. [14:39] ive never seen any of those apps that high [14:39] even pidgin is running high [14:40] he is typing a LOT [14:40] and i dont have pidgin running [14:40] 11402 chuck 20 0 483m 27m 18m S 0 0.7 0:02.51 pidgin [14:40] says you do [14:40] i know that, but i am not using it, it is not up [14:40] Raggs: kill it then. [14:41] do you have another tty open or something with stuff running on it? [14:41] damn, it was hidden, it is killed now [14:41] pickleyor, i dont believe so [14:42] i dont know what you did to that system, but thats not normal [14:42] pickleyor, that makes two of us [14:43] also it seems nepomukservices went medieval on that box [14:44] or is the multiple spawning a "feature" of kde? [14:44] boy, i can even mess up slackware, i am truly gifted [14:44] raggs can you press, ctrl+alt+f1 thru f6. see if maybe one of the other tty's is being used [14:45] Raggs (~x@99-29-0-126.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:45] wharncliffe (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:45] Raggs (~x@99-29-0-126.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:46] should be just a prompt right? [14:46] yes [14:46] ok, one more look [14:47] ok, one had a prompt [14:47] eldragon (~eldragon@84.79.67.254) joined ##slackware. [14:47] the others all asid starting up xserver [14:47] said [14:47] dru1d (~grafzero@82.177.172.217) joined ##slackware. [14:47] o.O [14:47] hmm sounds like that might be the problem maybe. you got x trying to run on multiple tty's [14:48] just a guess though [14:48] strange then [14:49] i honestly dont know what the problem is just by looking at it. ive never seen this happen before [14:49] not like this anyways [14:50] maybe someone else has an idea. im out [14:51] every program on your system is using way above the normal ammount for them [14:51] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) left irc: Quit: http://blog.KeepingYouHonest.net && http://yashunda.com [14:52] i can understand a little bit more ram because it being a 64bit system [14:52] but not this [14:52] could it have installed screwey? [14:52] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. 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[15:11] Action: logia_th hi folks good night [15:14] neonflux (~neonflux@adsl-66-120-23-227.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:15] why the kernel isn't update?, I updated to stable 2.6.35.5, is it a good decision? [15:15] logia_th: you may [15:15] logia_th: Pat will only issue patches for security issues. [15:16] ok [15:16] logia_th: but nothing prevents you from running a newer kernel. Make sure you keep the stock kernel in lilo.conf to be safe. [15:17] logia_th: i run 2.6.35.4, i found .5 causes X issues [15:17] but i think thats mainly cause of ATI being slow at updating their drivers [15:18] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [15:20] newyork (~newyork@p5DC91CF6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:21] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:27] personally, I use the stock kernels. [15:28] tim0z (~~tim0z@ppp-94-69-244-210.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:29] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A0C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:30] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [15:30] i use the stock kernels on my server [15:30] hi guys o/ [15:30] but on my work workstation, ive turned more into a tester there :p [15:31] give me a great excuse not to do work "but my workstation broke" [15:31] :p [15:32] must be nice to have time to tinker with your workstation [15:32] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A0C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:32] Action: ananke doesn't recall when he had time for being lazy [15:33] ananke: on my first job, I compiled KDE on solaris 8. [15:33] ananke: let's say that it took a long friggin time. [15:33] thumbs: i'd say [15:33] haha nice [15:33] I grew tired of CDE. [15:34] ive never used cde [15:34] if i caught one of my sysadmins trying to recompile kernel on a workstation, they'd be running [15:34] Action: thumbs was about to make a silly comparison with gnome... [15:34] why? it works well [15:34] gniks: sorry, I resisted. [15:34] gniks: what works well? [15:35] compiling the kernel on a workstation& you start it, and do work while it compiles [15:35] if your sysadmins don't know enough to compile a kernel, something is wrong [15:35] Garrett (~Neuromanc@host3-246-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:36] gniks: you made a classic mistake of assuming that 'not doing something' equals to 'not knowing how to do it' [15:36] gniks: I was actually scolded later for 'wasting paid time' [15:36] for me, works very good, but I need undertan the kernel and the process to build it.... [15:36] gniks: recompiling a kernel on a workstation is a waste of time for my sysadmins. i pay them to do real work, not to dick around [15:36] ananke: that's nice. Not everyone is that way. [15:36] i was not assuming that, and it snot always a waste of time [15:37] i didn't say what the kernel was for [15:37] maybe it was for our servers [15:37] ananke: I think like you now. [15:37] gniks: 'maybe'? so now you're inventing excuses, when originally it was about a workstation kernel [15:37] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:38] gniks: quit wasting your time "arguing" with ananke. It's not worth the aggravation. [15:38] yeah im over it [15:38] good [15:38] danc3: of course you wouldn't understand. how much time have you spent doing production work on multiple systems? [15:39] MarderIII (~marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:39] ananke: what do you do work for? [15:39] compiling kernel on a personal workstation in today's day and age is hardly a productive use of time [15:39] ananke: nunya [15:39] it is [15:39] ognian (~ognian@80.80.146.180) joined ##slackware. [15:39] ananke: you make too many assumptions and broad sweeping generalizations. Quit wasting my time. [15:39] gniks: for money, usually [15:39] dru1d (~grafzero@82.177.172.217) joined ##slackware. [15:39] hehe [15:39] Garrett (~Neuromanc@host3-246-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Client Quit [15:39] danc3: you can't even finish what you started [15:40] Neuromancer_ (~Neuromanc@unaffiliated/neuromancer-/x-5110101) joined ##slackware. [15:40] gniks: were you trying to ask me where i work, or what kind of work i do? [15:41] no, he wasn't. Nobody cares. [15:41] what kind of work you do [15:41] danc3: see, there you go again. if you don't want to get involved, you shouldn't try to stir things up [15:41] OldGringo (~amigo@p54B0D12D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] i don't care where you work, you don't work at my company, thats all that matters :P [15:41] ananke: there you go again with another false assumption. [15:41] gniks: i'm a sysadmin, who manages other sysadmins [15:42] head sysadmin [15:42] lol [15:42] head case, is more like it [15:42] danc3: you're as retarded as ever. some things never change [15:42] im assistant manager of of 8 sysadmins and 6 sysengineers& im a sys engineer myself [15:42] :p [15:43] gniks: and you have time to compile kernels on your workstation? [15:43] ananke: ahhhh, resorting to the personal attacks... OK, I don't care. [15:43] danc3: just trying to match yours [15:43] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A0C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:43] ananke: like i said, you set it up to compile, and do work whiel it compiles [15:43] you don't have to spend the 2 hours watching the output [15:43] danc3: what, you don't want to play anymore? [15:43] also, scripts make it much easier [15:44] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:44] I guess ananke doesn't know that a compile can be going on while other things happen. It's called "multitasking", you should check it out. [15:44] gniks: that's still X amount of time you spend on it, for usually very little ROI [15:44] this is my caring face :) [15:45] and it allows me to test out new kernel features before putting them on prod servers [15:45] Action: danc3 goes back to watching football, getting tired of spanking ananke. It's too easy. [15:45] dont be ironic [15:45] danc3: get retarded, will ya? [15:45] danc3: then again, watching tv is the extent of your intellectual capacity [15:45] dru1d (~grafzero@82.177.172.217) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:46] OldGringo (~amigo@p54B0D12D.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Client Exiting [15:47] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A0C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [15:47] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:47] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [15:49] ognian (~ognian@80.80.146.180) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:52] bikolinux (~nnscript@189.186.43.235) left irc: Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com ) [15:57] Guys, need help, trying to compile DivFix++ slackbuild 13.1 [15:57] zongo_: what's the issue? [15:58] installed required wxWidgets (WxPython and wxX11) as per read me file [15:58] its an OR not an AND [15:59] then when I compile DivFix++ (0.34) get errors [15:59] loads of them [16:00] you need wxPython OR wxGTK OR wxX11 [16:01] waximum (~waximum@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] sahko, I have just installed (now) wxPython and get errors "/bin/sh: wx-config: command not found [16:01] /bin/sh: wx-config: command not found [16:01] /bin/sh: -c: command not found [16:01] Channel flood from zongo_ -- kicking [16:01] make: *** [src/DivFix++App.o] Error 127 [16:01] " [16:01] zongo_ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [16:02] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-33-167.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:02] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:02] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [16:02] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [16:03] zongo_ (~zongo@86-41-87-21-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [16:05] any idea ? [16:06] zongo_: ask 'ananke'... he's a "sysadmin" and he'll know the answer [16:07] can someone help me troubleshoot a grub> prompt at the bootup. It's a friend laptop running ubuntu and win32 and he can't get the OS selection menu. The laptop just directly boots to grub> prompt. [16:07] o_O [16:07] ask danc3, he's our local idiot [16:07] cryptic0: ask in #ubuntu, hardly anyone uses grub here, let alone grub2 [16:07] cryptic0: sounds like you don't have a menu.lst or grub.cfg (depending on the version of grub) but you might have more luck in #ubuntu [16:08] sahko: did ubuntu switch to grub2 already? [16:08] waximum (~waximum@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:08] you can also ask in #grub [16:08] ananke: yeah, long ago [16:08] interesting [16:08] gniks: grub2 doesnt have those files [16:08] ananke: you're a "sysadmin" and you didn't know that? [16:08] i thought opensuse did too [16:08] sahko: it doesn't [16:08] gniks: grub2 has grub.cfg [16:09] danc3: ohh wow. look at this, you're still an idiot [16:09] and you use grub-mkconfig after editing /etc/defaults/grub [16:09] ananke, Ubuntu uses grub2 [16:09] sahko: do you research before telling me im wrong [16:09] danc3: go pretend to know something about anything elsewhere [16:09] gniks: menu.lst? [16:09] ananke: but, but, but.... you're the "sysadmin"... How come you don't answer zongo's question? [16:09] would libmspack be required as well ? [16:09] menu.lst is for grub < 2 [16:09] danc3: in fact, it's clear you don't know much about slackware either. what do you know? [16:09] how can we read messages sent to a "pipe file" (fifo) [16:09] i said (depending on what version of grub) [16:10] gniks: right, sorry. my point wasnt proving you wrong [16:10] zongo_: it seems to me that you need to figure out what package provides "wx-config", as it clearly is not installed. [16:10] ananke: I've forgotten more about Slackware since I woke up this morning, than you'll ever learn. [16:11] sahko: ok oh :) [16:11] danc3: sure you have [16:11] danc3, I thought so, to that effect I installed (wxPython, wxGTK, or wxX11) [16:11] ananke: OK, then that's settled. Run along and play now. [16:11] part of wxWidgets [16:11] gniks: i thought grub.cfg was grub1's too. havent used 2 [16:11] one by one and get errors still [16:11] danc3: aren't you busy doing something very sophisticated and clever, such as watching football? or pretending to know computing? [16:11] oh hehe, naw that one is grub2 :) [16:12] sahko: no, grub1 uses 'menu.lst' [16:12] huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh [16:12] ananke: I'm "multitasking", watching football and playing on IRC. You should look that term up, since it's important for a "sysadmin" to know about... LOL [16:13] are you married or something ? [16:13] danc3: too bad you wouldn't know anything about system administration [16:13] tim0z: it's been going on for ages. he's one of my 'fans' [16:13] Action: GuardabosqueS me piro a cenar chao [16:13] ananke: I've forgotten more about system administration since I woke up this morning, than you'll ever learn. [16:13] mom, dad please dont fight! [16:13] tim0z: he can't help himself but 'contribute' to any conversation i may have, in fear that he wouldn't be able to injective something clever [16:14] actually, no... I just correct all the BS and misinformation that ananke spews, and he doesn't like that much. [16:14] [16:15] in fact, he has very little clue about anything, yet he has much higher aspirations [16:15] [16:15] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Quit: Leaving [16:16] notice how he injected himself in the first place: 15:33 danc3> gniks: quit wasting your time "arguing" with ananke. It's not worth the aggravation. [16:16] [16:17] and notice how he'll disappear, until it's his chance to get another stab [16:17] pathetic little troll, with no real skills [16:17] Action: danc3 notes the desperation creeping into ananke's posts... [16:17] is this going on since 15:33 ? Oh, the different timezones, shit I dont have a clue either, but such fights have costed me a big consume of codeine pills, mom dad please dont fight. [16:18] tim0z: it's only 15:14 now [16:18] hehe [16:18] CDT [16:19] now the time goes backwards? am I travelling to paranoia ? [16:19] you may be. I suggest drinking heavily until nightfall. [16:19] 17:15 local here :) [16:20] 23.16 in greece and yes i am drinking heavily :) [16:20] NyteOwl: Nova Scotia or something? [16:20] yes [16:20] cool [16:21] a bit - 14C today :P [16:21] ananke: bonus question: look up "Nova Scotia" and tell us what timezone it's in. [16:22] unless, of course, you're too busy playing "sysadmin"... :) [16:24] Atlantic. Same time zone as Caracas and most of the Carribean [16:24] [16:24] tsccof (~tsccof@201-35-190-177.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:24] any idea when the new version of slackware comes out ? (switching the conversation in more #slackware, in a idiotic way) [16:25] tim0z: standard answer: When it's ready. [16:25] not any time soon, I would guess. [16:26] aha! ...I thought Nova Scotia was in Scotland... [16:26] heh [16:26] but in the other hand i am not an sysadmin [16:26] lol [16:26] : ) [16:26] LOL [16:26] lol [16:31] jemark (~mark@86-44-32-251-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] jemark (~mark@86-44-32-251-dynamic.b-ras2.blp.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:34] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [16:34] Now I understand why Linus Torvalds say words about why he use mail.... :..) you suffer itching? lol's... [16:36] ? [16:36] asarch (~asarch@189.188.143.121) joined ##slackware. [16:37] danc3: as usual, you're still at it. congratulations [16:39] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:41] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) left irc: Quit: @Out [16:42] rafu (~rafu@90-227-120-47-no121.business.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:42] rafu (rafu@90-227-120-47-no121.business.telia.com) left ##slackware. [16:42] if i have set no password for user and ssh login promt asks me to type it in, how could i log in if ssh refuses blank passwords? [16:42] prompt* [16:42] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] ssh keys [16:43] ah yes. [16:43] pupit: ssh by default will refuse blank passwords. however, if you added with useradd, that's not a blank password - that's a disabled account [16:44] added with adduser [16:44] notice the difference between adduser and useradd :) [16:44] pupit: so you pressed 'enter' when it prompted you for the password? [16:44] ananke: yes i did [16:45] n37wk3r (~netwolker@unaffiliated/n37wk3r) joined ##slackware. [16:45] pupit: k, so that is an empty password. look at PermitEmptyPasswords, if you really must have it [16:45] but using ssh keys is definitely the better way to go [16:46] is there a program like ncd (norton change directory for dos) for linux? i tried ytree but sucks, and mc is not quite what i'm looking for... [16:46] thanks gniks ananke [16:46] n37wk3r: mc [16:46] ohh, nevermind :) [16:47] mc works ok, but...i don't want all the options and power that mc has, only a simple program to change dir. [16:47] n37wk3r: can you describe what it does? [16:47] i dont remember ncd [16:47] can't just use cd? [16:48] i found this http://kcd.sourceforge.net/ but i wasn't able to run it.. [16:48] gniks, yes i do use cd like everybody does, but i was just asking if there was a fater way to move trough directory without using X or mc... [16:49] using cd to navigate a complex filesystem can be a pita. however, if you're navigating it, it's usually for a reason, that's why i'd figure mc would be a decent option. it will get you there, and do other things [16:49] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [16:49] ah ok [16:49] pop push dirs on the directory stack ;) [16:49] ananke, yes i figured that out. I think i'm gonna stuck with mc [16:50] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:50] n37wk3r: http://server01.iiiii.info/fm.html maybe something like this? [16:50] but still i dunno why kcd can't run hmmm [16:50] gniks: that doesn't address typing whatever tab completion can't do :) [16:51] shako, interesting.... [16:51] naw, but makes so you don't have to do it multiple tiems [16:51] one small tool i use quite often is 'ncdu'. gives you that basic interface + du in one [16:52] ananke, could you point me a link to download ncdu [16:52] n37wk3r: first hit on gooogles: http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu [16:52] sahko, i'm downloading. i'll see how it works [16:52] ananke, tkz [16:53] ananke, it looks like it does more than listing the directory tree [16:54] n37wk3r: see also https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/ranger/ [16:54] what does it mean when grub menu updater cannot find a device for /? It asks if /dev is mounted. I am on a live cd trying to reinstall grub. [16:55] did you tell grub what root is? [16:58] gniks how do I do that? [16:59] cryptic0, you have mounted your root FS, and doing a chroot, or ? [16:59] thrice`: the entire /dev/sda2 is mounted on /mnt [16:59] and I am trying to do "sudo update-grub" [17:00] did you chroot to it? [17:00] cryptic0, ok, try this: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev ; chroot /mnt /bin/bash; sudo update-grub [17:03] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [17:03] thrice`: I should clarify that I am not on slackware. And all of the above commands are giving errors. [17:04] can you tell me how can I let grub updater know that /dev is inside /mnt/dev [17:04] cryptic0: you will have more luck with google or a irc room about your distro or #grub [17:04] cryptic0, that's what the last chroot command does - makes you change to /mnt and make it your "root" [17:04] the bind mount command thrice` gave you would do that [17:05] gniks: the idiots at grub and ubuntu are constantly sending me the grub2 community page for the last two hours, so I thought of getting help from my friends at slackware [17:05] s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-241.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:05] ah, thats shitty :( [17:05] hmm [17:05] thrice`: I see. any other way around this? [17:05] grub is a bitch some times :p [17:06] This is a friend's laptop and I am going to convert him to slackware once the dust settles down. [17:06] why is the / a bit screwy? why is dev in /mnt/dev [17:07] gniks: the grub2 community page on ubuntu portal told me to mount /dev/sda2 to /mnt [17:07] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Quit: curiosity kill the kat [17:07] so that I can reinstall grub there [17:07] ok [17:08] so mount -o bind /mnt/dev /dev [17:08] this really should be a very straightforward and simple task, yet grub is being a total bitch. I like lilo much much better [17:08] hehe yeah [17:09] gniks: no joy. still getting the same rror: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?) [17:09] whats /etc/defaults/grub say? [17:09] i haven't used grub2 long enough :p [17:10] you could always just install lilo :p [17:10] sda2 is that /? [17:10] or is that specifically /dev? [17:11] there is no /etc/defaults/grub [17:12] can I just install lilo and screw grub? [17:12] you could :) [17:12] I don't know if it works with lilo [17:12] sorry I mean ubuntu [17:12] it does, if they have a package for it [17:12] im not sure if they do [17:12] or you could install via source, but that gets messy [17:13] hi [17:13] who uses wicd instead of rc.inet1 ? [17:13] a google search is bringing up problems with lilo installations on ubuntu [17:13] god, why is this so difficult [17:13] I hate this [17:14] well, lilo is just a bootloader, its only problemsum if they are trying ot use ubuntu tools [17:14] after the kernel takes over and kicks off init, lilo has no control :p [17:14] same with grub [17:15] but we need to identify what parttions you have, and what they are for [17:15] ScreamerX: shoot [17:15] then we can mount them properly, and you can continue [17:15] ScreamerX: why use wicd? rc.inet1 works nicely [17:16] Mowah (1000@c-d181e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [17:17] a user would have to restart if a network cable is plugged in :-) [17:17] gniks: my partitions are /dev/sda1: swap [17:18] not true ScreamerX, you can keep dhcpd running and monitoring your interfaces, or allow the user to restart inet1 on his/her own [17:18] s/hdcpd/dhclient/ [17:18] wow i fail at typing today [17:18] why aren't my messages showing up [17:18] ok now they're [17:19] i got sda1: swap [17:19] my other partions are: /dev/sda2 for root and /dev/sda3 for windows [17:19] ok, so are you in grub cli? [17:19] I booted with a live cd and now I am at a terminal [17:19] ok, can you reboot? that way our mount commands won't interfer :p [17:20] ok, give me a minute [17:20] im pretty sure we have you all kinds a screwed up down and sideways :p [17:20] k [17:20] :p thanks gniks for helping me [17:21] stephen_ (~twoshot_@ip65-46-142-190.z142-46-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:22] np [17:22] so when this comes back you are going to want to do the following [17:22] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [17:22] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [17:23] mount /dev/sda2 /mnt; mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev; mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys; mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc; chroot /mnt [17:23] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [17:25] then try to install/upgrade grub [17:26] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-126.viapori.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:26] gniks: how can a user restart rc.inet1 ? [17:27] well, usually /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart does the trick [17:27] jhell (~89d8547e@unaffiliated/cmdlnkid) left irc: Quit: hardware move [17:27] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [17:27] but usually dhclient stays running anyway if you are configuring them with dhcp [17:28] tim0z (~~tim0z@ppp-94-69-244-210.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:28] cryptic0: let me know how that goes [17:28] gniks: chroot /mnt is giving me trouble: cannot change root directory to /mnt: operation not permitted [17:28] are you root? [17:28] should I use sudo for that? [17:28] Roin (~florian@p5B2BECCF.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: see ya o/ [17:29] yes [17:29] you should be root for all this [17:29] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [17:29] I was, just wan't sure if I needed to be for the last one as well [17:29] ah, yeah :) [17:29] gniks: can I just type update-grub now? [17:29] give it a shot [17:30] yes! FTW [17:30] :) [17:30] awesome, reboot and see if it worked? [17:30] yeah [17:30] ok brb [17:31] gniks: nope, I am back at the grub> prompt [17:31] ok [17:31] insmod ext2 [17:31] set root hd(0,2) [17:32] linux /boot/ [17:32] that should boot ya [17:32] Azuos001 (~Azuos001@cpc8-cmbg15-2-0-cust130.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:32] graffatcolmingov (~WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) joined ##slackware. [17:32] Where does slackware keep the stdio library source? (The source for the actually functions like printf or fflush) [17:32] having problem with set root hd(0,2): not an assignment [17:33] argh, ok hang on [17:33] Azuos001 (~Azuos001@cpc8-cmbg15-2-0-cust130.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:33] set root='hd(0,2)' [17:33] fml [17:33] set root='(hd0,2)' [17:34] there is lots of kernel files, which one should I choose. [17:34] one says vmlinux-blahblah-generic [17:34] ummm&. right now, anyone [17:34] is there just vmlinuz? [17:34] or vmlinux [17:35] neither [17:35] vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic [17:35] ok, just pick one at this point then [17:35] pick huge [17:35] unless you made an initrd [17:35] zaltekk: thats ubuntu [17:35] lol if there is one, zaltekk he isn't on slackware [17:35] sahko: oh. [17:36] that explains grub. [17:36] there isn't a huge [17:37] cryptic0: another thing to try is to run in the live CD again, and before rebooting, do grub-mkconfig [17:37] it just seems that you don't have grub.cfg [17:37] or there is a problem with the one you have, which is why its dropping you in to the grub cli [17:37] last time, when I did update-grub, it created grub.cfg and then said done [17:38] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:38] can I choose a generic kernel and an initrd.img that goes with it? [17:38] i think that command is a ubuntuism [17:38] cryptic0: yes [17:38] after the linux line [17:38] do initrd /boot/ [17:38] then Ctrl+X should boot it ( or i think boot command works too) [17:40] ok that did it, it's booting [17:40] will I have to do this every time? [17:40] fix your grub.cfg file :) [17:40] and no [17:40] at least we got ya booting [17:41] make sure its fixed before rebooting, lol [17:41] 'gniks now it dropped me off at Busybox shell [17:41] something broke then :p [17:41] says gave up waiting for root device [17:41] oh fuck [17:41] :D [17:41] forgot to tell the kernel what root device to use [17:42] linux /boot/ root=/dev/sda2 ro [17:42] oops [17:42] redo and add that stuff [17:42] ok :) [17:42] hopefully this is progress at the very least [17:42] cd /usr/ports/misc/happy-people && make install [17:42] nyRednek: we are happy people :) [17:43] gniks: just making sure [17:43] linux is the uphappy one :p [17:43] worked it out..for anyone interested in compiling divfixpp, use only wxGTK and it will take care of the wxwidgets dependencies [17:44] zongo_: isn't that what people were saying before (use only one as it is an OR not AND dependency)? [17:44] the read me files gives you three choices wxPython, wxGTK, or wxX11 [17:44] gniks: do I need to repeat that for initrid also? [17:44] yeah [17:44] wxPython or wxX11 will not work [17:44] have to repeat it all [17:44] gniks: I mean the root=blahblah part [17:45] yeah [17:45] only wxGTK worked for me [17:45] set root=(hd0,2) [17:45] so linux /boot/kernel root=** [17:45] zongo_: it would be advised to let the maintainer know about this then [17:45] initrd /boot/initrd.img root=** [17:45] oh, no, don't add the extra stuff to that line [17:45] zongo_: and/or SBo mailing list [17:45] ok, just wanted to clear that up [17:45] np [17:46] did not know there was a mailing list SBo :) [17:46] gniks: I am in. now it's fix that damn grub.cfg file [17:47] haha cool [17:47] btw gniks: you're the man! (if you're a man that is), otherwise, you're the woman! [17:47] hahaha, i am male yes :p [17:47] :D [17:48] so can I just run the update-grub again now? [17:48] last i checked, only wxGTK was belief [17:48] last i checked, only wxGTK was complete, rather [17:48] along with wxWindows [17:48] run it again [17:48] and then see if /boot/grub/grub.cfg is created with stuff in it [17:49] if not run grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg [17:50] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:50] yeah update-grub is an ubuntuism :p [17:50] gniks: /boot/grub/grub.cfg exists and stuff in there, but I can't understand a damn thing in there [17:50] certainly no menu [17:51] yeah, run the mkconfig command [17:51] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:51] divfixx++ is compiled here with wxpython [17:52] s/is// [17:52] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: _marc` [17:52] how can i install python 2.6 on a slackware 12.2 without making a mess? DX [17:53] n37wk3r: there is a buildscript for python3 on sbo, that might give you some pointers [17:53] gniks: done! [17:53] can I look at the grub menu somewhere? [17:54] can you paste the grub.cfg file in pastebin? [17:54] zongo_ this means that it was pebkac [17:54] gniks: wait, update-grub is on debian too [17:55] maybe its a debian thing, its not on Slackware when installing by source [17:55] mancha, pebkac ? (sorry but newbie here) [17:55] gniks could you please post the link to the sbo page [17:56] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/development/python3/ [17:56] zongo_: pebkac...problem exists between keyboard and chair [17:56] zongo_: problem exists between keyboard and computer [17:56] *char [17:56] gniks, tkz [17:56] np [17:57] gniks: http://pastebin.com/GArvEDY7 [17:58] cryptic0: something is wrong with the kernels it seems& grub isn't picking up that there are kernels on that box [17:59] zongo, i was just letting you know in case you were going to email the maintainer about it only working with wxgtk. now there is something you can emaill him about, his slack-desc says the app is cli :) [17:59] dang really? is there a solution? or do I need to reinstall ubuntu [17:59] if you want, you can actually write your own grub.cfg [17:59] that would keep it running at least on reboot [17:59] i don't know ubuntu enough and the internal grub2 scripts enough to know what its looking for, im having a hard time getting it to find my initrd automatically as it is :p [18:00] hmmm it's a friend's machine and I would rather have it fixed at once. But if I reinstall the OS, will that do anything to my windows partition? [18:00] knut__ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-44-202.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:00] it shouldn't do anything to windows as long as you don't tell it to repartitino [18:01] yeah I will make sure of that. I think I am just going to do a clean install. [18:01] yeah [18:01] you would just add the commands you manually typed to boot the system [18:01] that would do it [18:01] Wiren (~Wiren@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: [18:01] but the next time something updates the kernel and runs update-grub, it will get clobbered [18:02] yeah, I just want a permanent solution :) [18:02] heh eyeah [18:02] I already spent 3 hours of time and 1 hour of your time :) [18:03] not like iw as doing anything else :p [18:03] but still, I appreciate you taking time to solve my problems. [18:04] knut_ (~knut@ANancy-157-1-138-82.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:04] mancha, I am just a mere spectator here. Will let the pro(s) deal with this.... [18:04] this is why I like slackware channel. I can always get help here :) [18:04] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@ip65-46-142-190.z142-46-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [18:05] :) [18:05] aha, i figured out the initrd issue :p [18:05] go me [18:05] i misstyped the kernel version :p [18:08] Bye people...bed time. #slackware is the best channel for linux XD [18:08] ecelis (ecelis@NetBSD.si) joined ##slackware. [18:08] n37wk3r (~netwolker@unaffiliated/n37wk3r) left irc: Quit: Sto andando via [18:11] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [18:12] stephen_ (~twoshot_@user-0cetgcn.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [18:12] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:14] Action: GuardabosqueS nas noches [18:14] zongo_ (~zongo@86-41-87-21-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:15] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@ip65-46-142-190.z142-46-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:16] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-242-251.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:16] GuardabosqueS: might want to turn that off, please [18:16] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.226.207.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [18:16] and its not even in english! [18:17] thumbs, sorry, i am in more channels, i did a /me [18:18] good evening in english [18:18] GuardabosqueS: yes, and a /amsg is also not a good thing. [18:19] thumbs, why? I don't underrtand... [18:19] understand* [18:19] GuardabosqueS: broadcasting any message across all the channels you're in can be perceived as spam. [18:20] I only did a /me because the rest of the channels i am are spanish channels [18:20] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.226.207.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:20] GuardabosqueS: the language is not the issue. [18:21] thumbs, ahmm ok ok, I used use mindforge network (it is said so?) , and it was permitted there [18:21] thumbs, i'll remember your apretiation [18:22] thanks [18:22] sorry for my bad english xdddd [18:23] thumbs, thank you for your apretiation [18:23] it is said apretiation? [18:24] appreciation [18:24] if that's what i think you're trying to say [18:24] graffatcolmingov, :) [18:24] GuardabosqueS: I would use the term "explanation" [18:24] goj|ghost (~goj@p4FE6A6F8.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] goj (~goj@p5488FEBD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds [18:24] thumbs, ok, i see [18:24] or rather "comprehension" [18:24] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [18:24] Action: graffatcolmingov reads up a bit [18:25] the latter would mean that we understand your mistake. But we're not mad. It was merely a note to make you understand of the common practices on this netowkr. [18:25] perhaps I'll learn a few English language, an a few few linux :) [18:25] yeah explanation is what he was looking for [18:26] I was just going by his attempt at the word [18:26] thumbs, ok, i understand, tahnks :9 [18:26] :) [18:27] graffatcolmingov, :)) [18:27] there is no channel for slack in anywhere [18:28] and finally i dound it :) [18:28] GuardabosqueS: yes, freenode is the network you want to be for the slackware community. [18:28] GuardabosqueS: it has the most active community, by far. [18:28] and smert :) [18:28] Action: graffatcolmingov loves ##slackware [18:28] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) joined ##slackware. [18:28] It does have a bit of a smell to it though [18:28] thumbs, I see, you will read me another times xddd [18:29] smeel? [18:29] smell? [18:29] GuardabosqueS: that was a joke :) [18:29] GuardabosqueS: olor? [18:29] GuardabosqueS: it's also pretty laid back, so you'll see humorous comments at times. [18:29] Action: graffatcolmingov is using google translate [18:30] graffatcolmingov, ahmm okok [18:30] jajajajajaja [18:30] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:30] olfato, husmeo [18:30] nvision (~nvision@g225053031.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [18:30] nvision (~nvision@g225053031.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Changing host [18:30] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [18:30] i understand xdd [18:31] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [18:31] thumbs, well, I'll try translate all logs xdd [18:31] rob0, ok [18:32] but i think the joke it's me...: my bad english, my poor unknowlege of slack [18:32] jajajaajaj [18:33] yum, warn apple sauce. [18:33] warm, too [18:33] just a dare for me... [18:34] i think dare is the word... reto in spanish... [18:34] thumbs: good with fresh bread [18:34] and rteal butter [18:34] NyteOwl: what ISN'T good with fresh bread? [18:34] rob0: fried politician? [18:34] NyteOwl: yeah. [18:35] :) [18:35] (I mean, something that could be considered good at all, of course.) [18:35] Fried politician might not be so bad, actually. [18:35] And definitely better with fresh bread. [18:37] lol [18:38] brianw (~kisea@c-69-254-170-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] briareus (~briareus@70.96.30.246) joined ##slackware. [18:38] briareus (~briareus@70.96.30.246) left irc: Changing host [18:38] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [18:39] yum yum [18:40] Even if the fried politician doesn't taste so good, look at it this way: one less politician! And the fresh bread will help. [18:40] crunch away, we'll make more [18:44] asarch (~asarch@189.188.143.121) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:45] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:46] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:48] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:49] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:01] Arno[Slack] (~arno@abo-240-46-68.mts.modulonet.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:01] oldtopman (~lansir@209-181-79-32.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [19:02] I am trying to run Linaxepad and I can chmod it to run, but ehrn I go to do so, it goes "no such file or directory" Trust me, it is a file. [19:03] is anyone here? [19:03] sounds like a 32 bit app trying to get run on a 64 bit slack [19:03] that's a wag. [19:04] grrr... [19:04] so I need to do a 32 bit os to run that app (it is 32 bit) [19:05] oldtopman: use alienbob's multilib [19:05] oldtopman: type 'file ./your/program/there' [19:05] you would need to have multi-lib support [19:05] alianbob has graciously created such an infrastructure. [19:05] anake: ./LinAXEpad: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [19:05] pickleyor (noone@72.86.92.106) left irc: [19:06] oldtopman: there you go. 32 bit binary [19:06] oldtopman: you're on 64bit? [19:06] yep. [19:06] Built myself an AMD IIX4 [19:06] NaCl (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [19:06] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7B503.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [19:07] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.237.65) joined ##slackware. [19:08] so if I install alien's multilibs I should be in the clear? [19:08] oldtopman: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:multilib [19:08] oldtopman, that's the theory, yes. [19:08] gniks: all is well now. fresh new installation [19:08] Are they unstable? Is there a reason not to do this? (just for info brfore I jump in head first) [19:09] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [19:09] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [19:09] oldtopman: it's completely stable. [19:09] i don't think unstable is a good way to describe them, they do have some pitfalls related to rolling upgrades, iirc [19:10] alrigt then. I will do that thanks. [19:10] oldtopman (~lansir@209-181-79-32.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:10] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] i.e. make sure the wrong things aren't overwritten. so just pay attention to what you do. [19:10] BrokenCog (~Daniel@pool-96-231-126-119.washdc.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] or sign off before i finish, either way. [19:10] Evening! [19:10] mancha: he didn't seem to care about what you had to say, heh [19:11] thumbs, i believe that is an accurate observation. [19:11] Anyone have 13.1 x64 ISO they could start seeding ?? [19:11] cryptic0: awesome [19:11] BrokenCog: I was trying to use the torrent too last week, and seeders seemed to be sparse. [19:11] and you learned a bit about grub2 in the process :) [19:11] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [19:11] BrokenCog: i have a mirror you can use http/ftp [19:12] thumbs: how long did you wait!? [19:12] http://slackware.kingrst.com [19:12] BrokenCog: I used a friend's mirror with the iso [19:12] gniks: thanks! whats the ... cool. are you using the bandwidth now? [19:12] hmm. i just realized my mirror wasn't carrying 13.1's isos [19:13] BrokenCog: welcome [19:13] exclude="*.iso" ftw :) [19:13] gniks: i simply forgot to include them. that's all [19:14] bah. and the upstream doesn't carry them. [19:14] well that too& i actually run an rsync cron against the OSU mirror which doesn't carry them& doing so would remove them even if you add them :p [19:14] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [19:14] gniks: we'll be connected for the next three hours ... good speed! [19:15] gniks: yeah, that's the same upstream i use [19:15] yeah, thats the official one :p but i see you found my point ;) [19:15] BrokenCog: no worries, it is a well connected server, enjoy :) [19:15] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [19:15] _NaCl_ (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [19:16] _NaCl_ (~NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Client Quit [19:22] greetings and salutations [19:22] hi andarius [19:22] salutations NyteOwl [19:23] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [19:24] wassup? [19:24] not much, having a beer and building a firewall. you ? [19:25] nada, just browsing through forum themes. trying to decide if I want to try starting one, and around what topics :) [19:26] topic selection is critical for a forum to thrive I think [19:26] yup [19:27] It was different when I had my BBS. Those days you had a few specialized sections and the rest was a generalized mish-mash. Now for a web forum to gain any kind of cumminity it needs a fairly tight focus [19:27] rule #34 [19:27] :) [19:27] that would get you a community :) [19:28] graffatcolmingov (WhoAmI@unaffiliated/sigmavirus24) left ##slackware. [19:29] true but not a forum to my tastes I'm afraid :) [19:29] Though my BBS did have a closed adult section [19:29] and that's a euphemism for? [19:30] Generally accepted internet rule that states that pornography or sexually related material exists for any conceivable subject. Additionally it is accepted that the rule itself has limitations and you cannot be too specific on the content of the item in question. Most commonly used on various message boards for various reasons, from humor to cruelty. [19:30] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rule%2034 [19:32] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:33] hiptobecubic (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Quit: For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint. [19:35] m3tti (~harlekin@p57B7B503.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:35] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-97-187.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [19:36] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:37] Nai-ux (~user@210.87.18.106) joined ##slackware. [19:37] hi, does slack have a minimal install like a long time ago? or must i download a big disc [19:38] i see 13.1-install-d1.iso, d2.iso, d3.iso and dvd.iso [19:39] d3 is KDE [19:39] you don't need it [19:39] disk 1 and 2 are all you need [19:39] and you pick and choose what you want installed [19:39] i mean is there a 150mb or 40mb install disk? or must i use the 600mb one [19:40] Nai-ux: i'd suggest the 600mb one [19:40] one can generaly get by with only CD 1, depending on what you need [19:40] i tried the d1 last night and it didn't install X, what disc is that on? [19:40] Nai-ux: d2 [19:40] slackpkg can resolve that for you [19:41] without needing to pull a whole CD [19:41] Nai-ux: and, as andarius said, slackpkg can do it [19:41] ok thanks i might just do disc1 and use slackpkg [19:42] is there a txt with the breakdown by cd? [19:43] dont think so [19:43] http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php <-- lists the series on each CD [19:43] thre is an iso.txt file in the ftp mirrors, that has a list [19:43] that should give you a good idea [19:44] i don't see iso.txt :/ [19:44] ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-13.1-iso/ [19:44] d1.iso.txt , d2.iso.txt , etc [19:45] ah yes, indeed. [19:45] thanks. [19:47] see you tomorrow [19:47] nas noches [19:47] tomorrow is a work day, and it's late [19:47] sahko, :) [19:48] nas noches [19:48] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:48] mancha, :) [19:49] i just got to work recently;p [19:49] monday morning in sydney [19:49] tsccof (~tsccof@201-35-190-177.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:49] i've always wondered, how do you folks get used to walking upside down? [19:49] :)) [19:50] and the toilet swirls the opposite direction... totally matrix man... [19:50] heh [19:50] our toilets dont swirl, the water just goes down, its more efficient [19:50] hah [19:52] v4nelle (~van@79.107.242.251) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:53] my frend held the matrix hugo deagle he does camera work [19:53] doesn't run unix tho :S [19:56] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [19:56] still Sunday evening in this Sydney :) [19:56] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Client Quit [19:57] i forget where is the other sydney? [19:57] Nova Scotia, Canada [19:58] every once in a while I'll get a piece of mail routed via the AU postoffice back to me because someone sent it to the wrong palce :) [19:58] hah [19:58] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [19:59] "I said Sydney australia.. not freakin' Canada! They don't have Kangaroos in Canada.. duh!" [19:59] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:59] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:59] freack (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [19:59] did it have country/state written on it? or no [20:00] mwalling (mwalling@you.dontlike.us) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:00] Dominian: eh. [20:00] mwalling (mwalling@you.dontlike.us) joined ##slackware. [20:00] thumbs: eh what? [20:00] just NS. I guess some Postal worker decides that the sender left off the "W" and off it goes to Oz [20:00] Dominian: -eh. It's a Canadian expression! [20:00] oh yah haha [20:01] no, it's a Torontonian expression - the idiots [20:01] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.27.41) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:01] NyteOwl: we use it in Montreal too, quite a bit. [20:01] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:01] I rest my case! [20:01] Action: NyteOwl duckas [20:01] that was good sex eh [20:03] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.238) joined ##slackware. [20:05] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:07] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [20:08] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [20:08] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [20:08] gtludwig (~gtl@187.112.68.46) joined ##slackware. [20:10] Dominian: you should emigrate to Canada. [20:10] %42 downloaded, go go ! [20:11] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A0C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [20:11] stephen__ (~twoshot_@user-0cetgcn.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [20:14] stephen_ (~twoshot_@user-0cetgcn.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:19] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:20] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:21] ZMR (~Who_cares@201.206.18.30) joined ##slackware. [20:26] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:26] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [20:26] briareus (~briareus@70.96.30.246) joined ##slackware. [20:26] briareus (~briareus@70.96.30.246) left irc: Changing host [20:26] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [20:27] oddly enough, "eh" has been used in the UK for quite a long time [20:27] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:27] tsccof: but Canadians are known for it. [20:29] mostly in central. I seldom here it around here in normal conversation [20:30] thumbs: well, to be known for something is not necessarily to give origin to something [20:31] tsccof: right. [20:31] thumbs: also, within England, "eh" sounds much more English since we don't think it sounds that Canadian, since we don't know many Canadian expressions [20:31] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:31] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-78-70.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:31] so I guess it wouldn't sound very English for you either [20:31] but I reckon it has been used first in England [20:32] I use "I reckon" all the time here. Folks look at me funny. [20:32] ragix (~rage@122.58.189.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:32] thumbs: :P [20:32] everyone here just says MMAAAAAATTTTEEEEEE [20:32] that's when they start the "you might be a redneck if" jokes :p [20:32] thumbs: it sounds normal, though in England some people say it sounds very Australian [20:33] SCTV and "The Great White North" poked fun at Canadianisms, and "eh" entered into the pop culture that way. [20:33] "eh, mate!" sounds very cockney [20:33] VERY cockney indeed [20:34] tsccof: it's not normal here, let me tell you. [20:34] thumbs: :P [20:34] but that phrase in England would actually be "Hey mate", with the 'h' being essentially silent [20:35] NyteOwl: depends on what part of England you are talking about [20:35] tsccof: it must be awfully early in your town/village/city [20:35] NyteOwl: that is very common in Eastern London [20:35] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [20:36] NyteOwl: but it is more commonly found in any part of London than in Newcastle upon Tyne, for example [20:36] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [20:36] thumbs: it must! but I am not living in England anymore [20:37] tsccof: you deceived me. [20:37] about 12-12:30am [20:37] 1:33am [20:37] NyteOwl: later. [20:37] depending which side of the meridian you're on :p [20:38] 1:33am Monday (BST) - Time in London, United Kingdom [20:38] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:38] Londion is Greenwich +1 [20:38] iirc [20:38] erm, I knew the time before I googled it ;p [20:38] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210071254.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [20:38] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210071254.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Changing host [20:38] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [20:39] 1:34am Monday (BST) - Time in Greenwich, United Kingdom [20:40] NyteOwl: all of the UK is at BST at the moment, until the 31st of October [20:40] it's 00:35 UTC (GMT) so ... [20:40] so...? [20:40] oh Lord. more daylight savings crap :) Let's all sue sideral :) [20:40] NyteOwl: so you are right, England is wrong [20:40] er use [20:40] :P [20:41] tsccof: in many ways but that's another subject :p [20:41] eh < [20:42] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:43] http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/SillySounds/ [20:46] what is anther way i can find hard disk apart from dmesg, df and fdisk, i am trying to install dragora linux but cfdisk is opening table of cdrom [20:46] dragora linux? [20:46] the people in that channel are asleap or something, apologies for asking here :) [20:47] Dragora GNU/Linux is an Argentinean distribution focused in freedom, stability and security. It's created entirely from scratch with some similarities with Slackware. [20:47] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.34.16) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:47] Nai-ux: then use the correct device name? [20:47] Naming of SATA drives should begin with sda. [20:47] zaltekk: i am trying to find the device name... [20:48] Strykar (~wakka@122.170.34.16) joined ##slackware. [20:48] ls /dev/sd* [20:48] ls /dev/hd* [20:48] ok thx, trying. [20:50] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:52] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [20:55] tried the 100 or so devices its none of them, perhaps the scsi isn't loading with that miniroot, i'l try diff miniroots and if that doesn't work create virtual ide instead [20:57] Nai-ux: fdisk -l [20:59] hexhawk (~hawk@unaffiliated/hexhawk) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:59] NyteOwl (~sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:00] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:00] tried that, didn't work, working as ide however thx [21:01] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [21:01] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [21:04] shonudo (user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left ##slackware. [21:06] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [21:08] well, damn, i was about to tell kamii that i thought i found the issue [21:10] lancel00t (~lancel00t@96-42-14-254.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:12] AndChat- (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:13] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [21:15] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:15] AndChat- (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:16] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:17] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] Jedman (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/jedman) joined ##slackware. [21:19] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:19] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-242-251.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [21:22] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:25] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: Leaving [21:26] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:27] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [21:27] Nai-ux (user@210.87.18.106) left ##slackware. [21:29] "they used blowfish encryption" "how do you know?" "because of the tabs on the headers" [21:30] lol wha? [21:32] highly intelligent techno-speak from "24" :) [21:32] wow [21:32] email the producers and tell them "hey.. joo stoopid" [21:32] so you admit you watch it [21:33] tank-man, of course! [21:33] I havent' seen it so i can't judge :) [21:34] actually, i've not really seen a entire season just happened on an episode here and there. [21:34] its all about a guy who only has a day to kill the bad guy [21:34] and he has to do it every day apparently [21:34] so either they always have these enlightened techno chats or i got lucky :) [21:37] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:37] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [21:39] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:40] briareus (~briareus@70.96.30.246) joined ##slackware. [21:40] briareus (~briareus@70.96.30.246) left irc: Changing host [21:40] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [21:41] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-242-251.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:43] Onyxyte (~Onyxyte@r75-110-112-109.rmntcmtc02.rcmtnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:48] hexhawk (~hawk@unaffiliated/hexhawk) joined ##slackware. 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[21:58] goj (~goj@p4FE6A6F8.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [21:58] nyRednek: honestly I dont know of the top of my head [21:58] Nick change: goj|ghost -> goj [21:59] Section "InputDevice" then tell it eh "Identifier", the "Driver", and all your "Option"s [22:00] freack (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:01] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-15-4.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-15-4.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Changing host [22:01] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) joined ##slackware. [22:02] http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/xorg.conf.5.html [22:02] I've decided to run for governor of the Internet. [22:04] what is your policy on porn and monitoring? [22:04] Porn, yes, monitoring, only on porn. [22:04] Action: fire|bird votes for andarius as campaign manager. [22:06] My main policy plank will be to abolish bookface. [22:10] newslacker (~root@207-119-220-22.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:12] Action: tsccof accepts byteframe as the governor of the internet [22:12] i'll vote for tsccof if he'll eat stuff off his feet [22:13] I shall now reneg on my duties and give the top 1% of pornography consumers a tax cut. [22:16] mancha: hey! I said maybe RMS was faking it, not what I would do the same :P [22:18] you said "that is no how one would eat stuff off their foot" so i figured you were an expert! [22:19] anyways, eat your corns and you got my vote! :) [22:19] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:20] good evening everyone [22:20] powtrix (~powtrix@189-69-24-117.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:22] I'm banned from $offtopic so I can't do any campaigning to the homeless insane. [22:23] what is required to get banned from offtopic? to talk about slackware? [22:23] Onyxyte (~Onyxyte@r75-110-112-109.rmntcmtc02.rcmtnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [22:23] I think I might have been nude. [22:23] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:23] ah indecency laws. maybe if you promise to wear a scarlet letter N? [22:25] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:26] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:26] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:27] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:27] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] Skywise (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:27] SkyTV (~noneya@dsl092-165-068.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [22:27] SkyTV (~noneya@dsl092-165-068.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Changing host [22:27] SkyTV (~noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) joined ##slackware. [22:27] artaud (~artaud@187.113.65.189) joined ##slackware. [22:27] artaud (~artaud@187.113.65.189) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:28] nyRednek (~yosi@cpe-68-174-204-197.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:29] gtludwig (~gtl@187.112.68.46) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:30] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.237.65) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:31] quiet night? [22:31] tsccof (~tsccof@201-35-190-177.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [22:32] mfillpot: you bet. [22:32] tsccof (~tsccof@201-35-190-177.cslce700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [22:32] I guess that means that no one is having problems [22:33] or they can't get to the channel [22:34] entire America is in the depression called sunday night. [22:34] That is why I am going stir crazy [22:34] grab a cup of coffee or glass of wine [22:37] so what brings you on tonight [22:37] cryptic0, I am just bored and hoping to kill time helping people [22:38] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:38] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:40] cryptic0, I have been trying to build urbanterror from source, which is frustrating because it doesn't seem to build all necessary files [22:41] is that a game? [22:41] cryptic0: it's a game based on quake3's gpl'd source [22:41] I have no experience whatsoever in games, as you can tell. [22:41] cryptic0, yes it is, I current maintain the slackbuild that installs the binary form, but I want to mod it to build from source to resolve some outdated library issues [22:42] alienBOB: i'm still trying to get your wine to work with Pax Galaxia...it does with no error...any way to trace what's happening? [22:42] mfillpot: what doesn't seem to be built? [22:42] s/does/dies/ [22:42] zaltekk, when I build from source it doesn't build the config file and some other binaries appear to be missing [22:43] it is just humerous that what started that was my experimentation with git [22:44] mfillpot: knowing how id release it, you'd have different build targets for the different parts [22:44] and you likely can't build the cgame/qvm [22:45] as it would be closed sourced by the urbanterror guys [22:45] zaltekk, That is what I was assuming, but I have seen reports on the web about others building it from source, they just don't share their build scripts [22:46] there is no way they'd have the cgame source [22:46] since that isn't required to be gpl [22:46] and it is the hart of the mod [22:46] the rest is just ioquake3 likely [22:47] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:47] zaltekk, The ioquake is what has compiled successfully, but I am not likely to give up yet, I just have to find what else is necessary to make it playable [22:49] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.54.244) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:50] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.56.180) joined ##slackware. [22:50] mfillpot: well, iirc, they only release a qvm version of hte cgame now [22:50] BrokenCog (~Daniel@pool-96-231-126-119.washdc.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:50] which is bytecode for the quake3 virtual machine, so it can just be copied over [22:51] it will work on any machine [22:51] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:51] zaltekk, the source does have an option to build qvm, maybe I should check that out [22:51] mfillpot: no. [22:52] mfillpot: you won't have the code to make hte qvm [22:52] they surely strip it out [22:52] what i was saying is that the qvm from their binary release is qvm bytecode [22:52] it'd work on any system that runs quake3 [22:52] without being modified in any way [22:53] zaltekk, are you saying that there should be no way that I can compile a complete installation from source? [22:53] mfillpot: yep. they don't give you the full source. [22:54] zaltekk, well I won't give up yet, but there is no harm in failure since I already have a binary build script [22:54] mfillpot: you have the "ioUrbanTerror" source? [22:55] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [22:55] zaltekk, So i guess that I would have the same issue with the WOLF ET source [22:55] zaltekk, Yes, I am running my build script against it now to see what populates [22:55] mfillpot: no, id software releases the full source [22:55] mfillpot: but urban terror is a quake3 mod, and they don't have to release the mod source. just the engine source. [22:56] the cgame dll source from id software is open, but not gpl. so they keep it closed [22:56] the engine source from id is gpl, so they must keep it open [22:56] zaltekk, with your knowledge I think you would be a better fit to build a slackbuild for wolfET than me [22:58] These builds do help by allowing me to learn more about various projects [22:59] ^kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:59] i've never even looked at the wolfet source, although i'm grabbing it as we speak [23:00] zaltekk, Are you a slackbuild maintainer? [23:00] it's only 6MiB, but idsoft's ftp server is always really slow [23:00] mfillpot: no. [23:00] i am usually able to find slackbuilds for everything i need [23:00] i am a computer science university student though [23:03] zaltekk, WolfET is on my list, but if you can beat me to it then it would be better [23:04] zaltekk, plus you can probably fix sound issue to get it to use alsa instead of OSS, the process for that is well beyond me now [23:05] Prefect_ (Prefect@CPE0050ba42fad2-CM001ac3121530.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: [23:07] mfillpot: well, at first glance, you need a make-like utility written in Python called SCons to build it [23:07] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:07] it is in slackbuilds. it's just weird to have to install build tools on slackware to build something else. [23:08] zaltekk, I have some experience with scons based builds [23:09] zaltekk, what caught me when I first tried to build it was changing the option to use the installed curl library instead of building one of it's own [23:09] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [23:10] brb [23:10] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:13] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-242-251.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [23:13] it's nice to see they're still using C [23:13] although, i'm almost 100% sure that changed with the doom3 engine [23:13] quite likely influenced at least in part by microsoft pushing d3d to the point that they broke ogl [23:16] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [23:17] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:17] sorry, I am configuring i3 right now and have to reboot to test setting [23:17] *settings [23:18] 23:09 < zaltekk> it's nice to see they're still using C [23:18] 23:09 < zaltekk> although, i'm almost 100% sure that changed with the doom3 engine [23:18] 23:10 < zaltekk> quite likely influenced at least in part by microsoft pushing d3d to the point that they broke ogl [23:18] didn't notice the part message [23:18] d3d? [23:19] Direct3D [23:19] ah [23:26] luckily i understand this source much better than i did the q2 source back when i was like 14 [23:31] I am off for the night, thanks for the info zaltekk [23:31] c-ya [23:31] mfillpot (~mfillpot@pool-74-99-86-8.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:34] Lufbery_jaa (~Drew@pool-72-70-171-61.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:35] GuardabosqueS (~yatique@87.111.124.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [23:35] pavon (~pavon@187.171.18.50) joined ##slackware. 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