[00:01] like cybering, do you? :P [00:01] copland-leopard: I think most, with the exception of a very few, would. [00:01] antler: lol [00:01] night all [00:01] night nachox [00:01] firebird619: well I know a few [00:01] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.39.186) left irc: "Leaving" [00:01] That might jsut keep the keyboards . [00:01] :) [00:02] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [00:02] Does anyone find it odd that logging out of xfce just pulls the plug on whatever is open? [00:02] superGear (i=supergea@97-118-37-182.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: [00:03] hiptobecubic: You mean that it closes all apps on log out? [00:04] [Nada] (n=chatzill@pool-173-57-156-2.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:05] firebird619, it doesn't though. At least it doesn't look like it. It likes it just kills the xserver and then all of the apps shit the bed and crash with display errors [00:05] It looks like* [00:05] Hmm, I've never had that happen, or if that happens, I haven't noticed it. [00:06] even xfce apps like the panel aren't killed prior to killing the xserver [00:06] that's odd. [00:07] firebird619, at runlevel 3. startx and then logout and look at the output. You don't see any errors like "DISPLAY :0 UNAVAILABLE. BURSTING INTO FLAMES IN 2..1 .." [00:07] ? [00:07] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [00:07] Maybe my installation is just particular well done :) [00:07] Stella_Caeli (n=Stella@ip70-162-197-246.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:07] brb, I'll check. I'm on 4.6 rworkman's packages. What xfce are you on? [00:08] I find all wms/des do that [00:08] usually get a xscreensaver error at least [00:08] I guess I've never noticed that behavior. I've never really paid attention to that though. I have inittab set for rl4 [00:09] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:10] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:10] hiptobecubic: I'll check mine and see what happens, then let you know. [00:10] firebird619, -current [00:11] Ok, I'm on 12.2 [00:11] firebird619, it did it back when 12.2 was -current anyway [00:11] it did it when i was running 12.1 [00:11] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.142.248) joined ##slackware. [00:11] Ok, I just realized I can't check yet though, I have something installing i VBox. :) [00:12] dive, yeah i always get xscreensaver, although i scrolled up last time and noticed that xfce4-panel was also complaining. That's what struck me as bizarre. [00:12] well i'm off to do a few more things :) take care people. [00:12] later lf4 [00:12] Bugz_ (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:12] bye firebird619 [00:12] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) left irc: "doing "things" ;)" [00:13] firebird619, for some reason i've been resisting running a virtual machine. I even manage to get MSOffice 07 to run in wine (powerpoint is still pretty shoddy). [00:13] Bugz____ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:13] hiptobecubic: I use VBox to try other distros, I also have a Windows 7 VM. [00:13] Bugz____ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:13] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-240-26-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:14] hai :P [00:14] hello [00:14] virtualbox is the opensource one rihgt? [00:14] right* [00:14] Nick change: Bugz_ -> _Bugz [00:14] hiptobecubic: VBox has both open and closed-sourced versions. I use closed for USB support. [00:14] Bugz_ (n=Bugz_@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:15] firebird619, and what do you think of win7? I saw it running a few months ago. It looked kind of like a crummy kde to me. [00:15] just a shoot from the hip, anyone try the new ubuntu ? [00:15] I use the closed source version to make a Lexmark printer to work :P [00:15] _Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:15] tecky: what? [00:16] tecky: What? You know this is ##slackware right? :P [00:16] firebird619: i figured it would be a good convo starter :P [00:16] hbock (n=hbock@pool-96-253-33-184.prvdri.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "leaving" [00:16] tecky, i have a rotting old 8.04.1 installed on another partition. I'd kind of like to see if it lives through the upgrade process. [00:16] Although i'm not in any hurry [00:17] ya know ... like going into the debian channel and saying, hey i hear slackware was a better distro whatcha think? [00:17] it usually gets some 'interesting' responses [00:17] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) left irc: [00:17] hiptobecubic: Windows 7 is alright I guess, alot better than Vista I think. [00:17] firebird619, vista is unbearable. [00:17] tecky: and sometimes can get you kicked. :) [00:18] sometimes, shit ... all the time ;) [00:18] hiptobecubic: I've never used vista, but I've read the horror stories. [00:18] firebird619, It came installed on this hp laptop. [00:19] I stopped using it because the webcam drivers were broken and i only have 2GB of ram [00:19] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:19] hiptobecubic: Which you quickly replaced with Slackware? :) [00:19] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:19] bagh [00:19] i'm on vista on this laptop, for school [00:19] vista was just a failed experiment imho [00:19] ;\ [00:19] windows 7 is ... what vista should have been imho [00:20] dissociative: haha, yeah, big pile of fail. [00:20] tecky: why do you need vista for school? [00:20] firebird619, ubuntu actually. It was my first actual venture into linux. I had tried installing gentoo a few years before, but i never made to the desktop :D [00:20] fire: comp sci major [00:20] they use all winblows products **sigh** [00:20] tecky, which products are these? [00:20] tecky: Really? What for? [00:21] mog: yah :\ [00:21] seems for programming and such you could use what ever you wanted [00:21] ummm C#, VB, PHP... [00:21] yah [00:21] evening all. [00:21] hiptobecubic: I got started with Linux with RH 7.3 given to me by a friend in high school. [00:21] tecky: they make you do assignments in C# and/or VB? that's *rough* [00:21] VB? [00:21] ugh [00:22] Hey agentc0re. How's it going? [00:22] CygnusX1 (n=CygnusX1@c-69-245-162-6.hsd1.in.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:22] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.56.160.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:22] its the courses i'm taking and going to take [00:22] they are designed for windows enduser [00:22] sooo yah [00:22] our comp sci and engineering departments are on Compaq Tru64 unix [00:23] tecky, but why VB? why not VC++ ? [00:23] hiptobecubic: I used ubuntu when I was on dial-up because they sent free CDs. :) [00:23] i'm going to ACC (a local college) [00:23] tecky: what are the courses? (I'm actually curious) [00:23] i'll be x-fer'n to RPI :) [00:23] mog i can get you a website + course numbers if your honestly interested [00:23] firebird619: Good except that there is work tomorrow :( [00:23] firebird619, hehe. nice [00:23] tecky: yeah, please link me [00:24] agentc0re: :( [00:24] what's RPI? [00:24] haha, mac book wheel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div [00:24] hiptobecubic: I remember with RH 7.3 compiling xfce from source. :) [00:25] firebird619, i'm sure that was fun. GTK/QT are bad enough [00:25] hiptobecubic: actually, it wasn't to bad. [00:25] RPI= Really Phancy Institute. :P [00:25] RPI = yum times eleventy :P [00:26] Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute ? [00:26] yewp [00:26] i'm in upstate ny (as evident by my hostname) [00:27] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [00:28] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:28] saknussemm (n=saknusse@190.247.129.4) joined ##slackware. [00:28] hm [00:28] straterra: not alive? [00:28] saknussemm (n=saknusse@190.247.129.4) left ##slackware. [00:28] Dominian: alives? [00:29] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-160-205.epm.net.co) left ##slackware. [00:29] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [00:29] tecky: what? [00:29] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.56.160.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:29] oh ... i'm a old school #slackware [00:29] and ... yah both those fuckers aren't alive :P [00:30] be careful of your language tecky. :) [00:30] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:30] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:31] bagh seriously ... you know what they are teaching kids in school these days .. the f word is no where near as bad [00:31] Stella_Caeli (n=Stella@ip70-162-197-246.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:32] what are they teaching kids these days? [00:33] how to use windows apparently :P [00:33] how clever of you [00:33] NO, please tell me your joking. :P [00:33] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:33] >.> [00:33] When I was in high school, all the pc's were macs. [00:34] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-78-15.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:34] antler: They're not, that's the problem. [00:34] When i was in highschool all the PC's where 386's. [00:34] when i was in HS the computers ran off punch cards, we walked both ways up hill in snow ... and air conditioning was a thing of the next century :P [00:34] aye firebird619, and the only thing we did with them was learn how to type. nothing else [00:35] man nix_chix0r's satellite isp sure does suck. [00:35] Urchlay_ (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:35] JasonosaJ: I learned html in high school on a mac in Web design class, otherwise, yeah, typing. [00:35] lol [00:36] chopp: yeah, no kidding. [00:36] i learned how to type in middle school after my parents wouldn't help me with a 6th grade paper i had to write [00:36] it was on some subject in history [00:36] mmmm i cant remember :( [00:36] I type around 70 wpm. [00:37] beats my 7 [00:37] i've never tested myself [00:37] firebird619: You need to get a game called, "Typing for the dead". :D I own it, it's a blast. You type zombies to death. [00:38] typeracer.com ftw [00:38] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [00:38] typeracer? [00:38] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: "42" [00:38] chopp: only 7? [00:38] tecky: nice browser game / test [00:38] there is some kind of dpkg in Slackware somewhere, right? (which installs .deb pkgs?) [00:38] agentc0re: When I first was learning to type, I used Mavis Beacon software. :) [00:39] d4vidc: Why would you use that, compile from source, use a slackbuild or something. :) [00:39] because I need it to be a 64-bit package, and often dpkg/etc or rpm, etc. work fine. [00:39] d4vidc: What are you building? [00:39] After months of searching for good Linux typing software, I actually found `gtypist` which is excellent. [00:39] awesome wm [00:40] d4vidc: Correction, wanting to install. [00:40] oh [00:40] lol 130wpm [00:40] there's no way [00:40] Slackbuild and source did not work lately [00:40] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [00:40] tecky: i get that on a good day [00:40] I am sure the Slackbuild will work when I get back to my 32-bit boxes [00:40] was it 64-bit source? [00:40] i wanna face plant on the keyboard and see how well i do [00:41] rapid: hence the nick "rapid"? :P [00:41] you know ... like face smash keyboard [00:41] :P [00:41] the .deb I downloaded was for amd64, yes. [00:41] d4vidc: you need to modify the build script for x86_64. [00:41] I have to do that for dependencies--and some are not working [00:41] d4vidc: I meant the source. [00:41] firebird619: well, i don't think that was the reason, it kinda just happened, tho I ain't that rapid :) there's some guys with avgs of 140 on there [00:41] there's a guy that has 210 [00:41] it would be easiest to just install the amd64 .deb [00:41] .... **shrug** [00:42] tecky: that's probably someone cheating. [00:42] d4vidc: no, it wouldn't. [00:42] how? [00:42] a bot? [00:42] tecky: there have been a few in the past [00:42] I can't even think that fast [00:42] d4vidc: easiest, but probably not the best. [00:42] d4vidc: are you wanting this on slamd64? [00:42] LOL [00:42] yeah, some software that enters the text whatever it may be. [00:42] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:42] agentc0re|work: of course [00:42] d4vidc: okay, give me a few seconds. [00:42] I do not see why kopete said "work" after your handle [00:43] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:43] oh, you have 2 handles [00:43] i made the mistake of joining ubuntu .... and had 3 / 4 pages of usernames scroll by in my irssi session [00:44] go go new desktop releases! [00:44] tecky: #ubuntu is just insanity. [00:44] is there any good IM plugin for irssi still? if so I would probably switch back... [00:44] i couldn't pay attention to half of it [00:44] btlbee [00:44] d4vidc: implugin ? [00:45] er im plugin ? [00:45] (for any IRC client) [00:45] d4vidc: bitlbee. it isn't a plugin, it is a gateway. but it is good stuff. [00:45] I concur [00:45] ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, etc. [00:45] d4vidc: dont tell me you use something like BitchX? [00:45] irssi, its better. [00:45] btlbee works fine with bitchx too, if that's what you want [00:45] I tried to, but I like irssi [00:45] :) [00:45] thank god [00:45] i cant stand bitchx [00:45] lol [00:46] plus, bitchx is eol'd now. :) [00:46] i used it for year, the someone showed me the light of Irssi [00:46] is it? thank god! [00:46] Stella_Caeli (n=Stella@ip70-162-197-246.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: [00:46] tecky: In slackware it will be. [00:47] The only reason I don't use irssi anymore, is it can't do vertical splits. [00:47] Good client. [00:47] mogunus: I thought it could somehow. I know it can do horizontal splits. [00:47] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:47] vertical splits... odd thing to want [00:47] firebird619: horizontal, yes. vertical no. [00:48] do any Slackware core developers hang out here? not that I want to bug them, but I wonder if they use anything besides the mailing list... and I have always wanted to hear their current ideas of GNU/Linux and Slackware... [00:48] I'm fine with horiz splits. I think it [00:48] its easier on my eyes. [00:48] Urchlay_: yeah, I prefer the horizontal splits. [00:48] Need to use both. I have a monitor just for IRC, split four ways. [00:48] d4vidc: http://pastebin.ca/1404457 [00:48] use that buildscript for slamd64 [00:48] d4vidc, they do come in here at times, but as fare as "their current ideas of GNU/Linux and Slackware..." don't expect epistles from them. [00:49] Action: firebird619 waves hello to Old_Fogie. [00:49] hey firebird619, hello all [00:49] hey Old_Fogie [00:49] Old_Fogie: How are you? [00:49] peachy! :) [00:49] and you [00:49] I do not expect that either... I also just would like to hear about the development... systems programming is one of my favourite topics, though it is hard for me [00:49] agentc0re|work: ok, I will check that [00:49] Old_Fogie: doing great. Thanks. [00:50] i stopped using slackware back ... oh .. version 7 / 8 / 9 ? [00:50] d4vidc, no they don't talk about upcoming development in here, [00:50] something in there i dont even remember [00:50] but i used slackware back in version 1, when it was 2 disks :P [00:50] Urchlay (n=dammit@c-76-20-209-241.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:51] agentc0re: hehe [00:51] so they really talk about all the coding for current on the mailing list instead of maybe when some work on it during the day? [00:51] d4vidc, basically development is discussed amongst them, occosanianaly we may here a 'tid bit of goodness' but really , we're blind to what is to come. [00:51] d4vidc: Let me know if it works because if it does, i'll post it on slamd64 builds. [00:53] d4vidc, its' not a project like debian where everything is up for debate, it's Mr. V and his close inner circle (the way I for one like it all these years mind you :) [00:53] agentc0re|work: I would like to, but I think I am stuck where I was the month before I tried Coreboot and then lately had to re-install: xcb and other dependencies were not working. I tried modifying the SlackBuilds for them myself. [00:55] Hmmm, ImportError: No module named webkit [00:55] I have webkit from SBo, not right version maybe? [00:56] Old_Fogie: I have definitely liked Slackware dev. being more centralized rather than like Debian... but it would be fun to at least see what the dev. team is saying even if it is in a place others should not (or cannot) talk much.. I have come so far in my understanding that I want to get more involved in that soon. Maybe I do not seem like that today because I just reinstalled Slamd64 after a month in which I installed Slack [00:56] man... a weekend is always too short, isn't it? :( [00:56] antler: always [00:56] indeed [00:57] d4vidc, best way to be a dev is to run --current, find/fix and send in patches other than that, dont know how you get in the 'inner circle' [00:58] d4vidc, but running slamd isn't slackware so you're not 'helping' in that regard [00:58] if you fork, ill join your inner circle :) [00:58] well it is more Slackware than BlueWhite64... and I do not have any other option for my 64-bit machine, do I? [00:58] Nick change: Urchlay_ -> Urchlay [00:59] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-235.dial.telus.net) left irc: "night all" [00:59] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:59] d4vidc, yea run Slackware if you want to be a dev for slackware, it'll run on a 64 bit pc, not in 64bit mode tho [01:00] If Patrick V and whoever else wanted Slackware to be also 64-bit yet they would just integrate Slamd64, but then the install disks would be too big and I do not think they want that. [01:00] They would not want it like Suse or something [01:00] all speculation imo [01:00] he'll add 64 bit if he needs it, wants it. [01:01] d4vidc, mind you I'm not in any way saying dont use slamd, heck if you want to run it, contrib to that project [01:02] Strykar (i=wakka@gateway/tor/x-a1d9b9c3aab67bab) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:02] I like to contrib to both... I used Slackware since '97... but I have uses for native 64-bit OS [01:04] JasonosaJ (n=Jason@pool-71-186-11-16.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:05] giuppy (n=giuppy@host24-53-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[01:20] tecky (n=jkroll@cpe-67-240-26-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [01:21] agentc0re : there is a chance I might get to trying your build [01:21] ccfreak2k: I do, tho it's currently packed up in a box from last time I moved [01:21] Do you know what make it is? [01:21] Camarade_Tux: i probably wouldn't use such distros at this point. i like obese os's [01:22] nah. Not a Fluke, maybe whatever the Radio Shack brand was called in the 1990s [01:22] it's not a really nice meter [01:22] antler, my main concern was stability but being overweight-o-phile works too :D [01:23] Camarade_Tux: :D [01:24] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] Urchlay, does it do what it's supposed to somewhat accurately? [01:24] barcara (n=barcara@cpe-66-108-212-246.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:24] ccfreak2k: it does [01:26] you have a misbehaving one or something? [01:26] I don't have one at all. [01:26] Now that I have money, I figured I'd start getting electronic equipment like a multimeter and soldering iron. [01:26] are multimeters usually expensive? [01:26] what's a multimeter? [01:27] tank-man: there are now some really really cheap ones on the market [01:27] voltmeter, ohmmeter, ampmeter in one [01:27] oh [01:27] ccfreak2k: you can usually get a rough reading by using your tongue, no? [01:28] The tongue test tells you if a battery is dead or not, but in my case, I need to measure the resistance of a surface-mounted potentiometer. [01:28] hahah [01:28] hard to do that by taste alone :) [01:30] was just kidding. electricity scares me; so licking live wires, for example, is a severe form of torture imo [01:30] Yes, unfortunately, my tongue is incapable of generating appreciable voltage. [01:30] antler, I know a few guys who have done electronics for decades that stick their tongue on 9V battery terminals to test them. [01:30] licking 9 volt batteries is harmless [01:31] licking 1.5 volt batteries is useless (at least, I can't feel anything from them) [01:31] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:31] it all started back in high school when i decided to install a cd deck in my car. completely fried the electrical system. [01:31] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:32] yarvin (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) joined ##slackware. [01:32] Urchlay: that's because your tongue is too desensitized from licking other things? [01:33] depends [01:34] heh [01:34] yarvin (n=yarvin@137.229.131.34) left ##slackware. [01:34] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [01:34] chopp: man we had a blizzard here today... like a few feet of snow [01:34] how are things there for you? [01:36] acidchild-deskto (n=ash@brouter.sevenl.net) joined ##slackware. [01:36] antler: yeah I was talking to someone that was driving through your neck of the woods and said it was nasty. A few flakes here today is all. [01:36] Hello! :D [01:37] firebird619: can i see your fstab entry for usb in virtualbox? [01:37] chopp: lucky you. everything else cool? [01:37] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:38] antler: depressed/missing my son...but things will get better. :) [01:38] m__ (n=m@98.196.95.141) joined ##slackware. [01:40] chopp: apart for long or temporarily? [01:41] acidchild-deskto: trying to get usb going in vbox? [01:41] antler: my ex is an idiot. It's been about a month and a half. I'll have this in court soon. [01:42] chopp: ah fuck man [01:43] antler: yep [01:43] windows detects it [01:43] could someone tell me if the "your ip" script is working here? http://chopp.homelinux.com/ [01:43] but its unuseable :/ [01:43] i checked /proc/usb/ w/e [01:43] and its read only.. [01:44] chopp, yep [01:44] tank-man: thank you. [01:45] antler: can you paste your ls -la /proc/bus/usb/devices [01:46] none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devmode=066,devgid=102 0 0 [01:46] that's the fstab entry [01:46] and ls -la /proc/bus/usb/devices [01:46] ? [01:47] -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2009-04-20 16:29 /proc/bus/usb/devices [01:47] and usb things work? [01:48] yes, or i wouldn't've responded :) [01:48] with an ipod or w/e? [01:48] morning all [01:48] acidchild-deskto: sorry, was afk. [01:48] morning frullet. How's it going? [01:48] no worries :-) [01:48] firebird619: good mate yourself [01:49] frullet: doing great. thanks. [01:49] acidchild-deskto: xp guest. ipod, sony phone, webcam, canon camera, sony webcam... all work [01:49] i see [01:51] acidchild-deskto: your 'none' line looks like mine? [01:52] acidchild-deskto: issues with usb in vbox? [01:52] none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,devmode=066,devgid=108) [01:53] i changed some stuff and restarted virtualbox and windows [01:53] lets see if it works [01:53] My line is: none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=102,devmode=664 0 0 [01:53] acidchild-deskto: good luck. :) [01:53] m__ (n=m@98.196.95.141) left irc: "leaving" [01:54] yeah, i don't think the 'on' and 'type' should be there. dunno about the 'rw' [01:54] "iTunes could not connect to the iPhone "" because an unknown error occurred (0xE8000065) [01:54] antler: it came from 'mount' :-) [01:54] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) joined ##slackware. [01:54] acidchild-deskto: your in vboxusers group and have usb enabled in vbox? [01:55] antler: The on and rw come from mount, even though fstab doesn't have on and rw. [01:56] firebird619: acidchild-deskto : yeah [01:56] none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devmode=066,devgid=108 0 0 [01:56] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.91.235) joined ##slackware. [01:56] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:56] acidchild-deskto: Did it work before and all of a sudden stop, or your just trying to get it going now? [01:57] nope. [01:57] trying to get it going now. [01:57] your in vboxusers group? [01:57] windows device manager says "apple mobile device USB driver' [01:57] yep [01:57] says the device si working properly [01:57] but oviously. [01:57] and usb's enabled in vbox? [01:58] yep [01:58] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:58] acidchild-deskto: you tried unmounting then remounting none, yeah? [01:58] yep [01:58] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:58] acidchild-deskto: you're using closed-source version, right? [01:58] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-157-235.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:58] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:58] yep [01:58] Should i use Enable USB EHCI Controller? [01:58] or just enable usb controller? [01:59] I have both enabled. [01:59] and under 'remote'? [01:59] I left remote alone. [02:00] what USB EHCI does is enable USB 2.0. [02:00] Gimped (n=Gryphyn@adsl-75-55-215-34.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:00] indeed, i thought so. [02:00] Nick change: acidchild-deskto -> acidchi|d [02:01] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:01] acidchild-deskto: dunno if it applies, but guest can do usb, if the host does usb. must be one or the other (at a time) [02:01] guest can't [02:01] acidchi|d: enabling 2.0 is worth a try. [02:01] it won't hurt anything. [02:01] same error [02:01] :( [02:02] well buddy... you're sol [02:02] :P [02:02] haha [02:02] not yet. [02:02] jailbreak it and use linux with it. :P [02:02] what is acidchi|d trying to do? [02:02] lf4: iphone in Vbox [02:03] hahaha oh nice... [02:03] Action: lf4 is installing XP in Vbox right now to use my iTouch. :P [02:03] lf4: dtanner has that working good if you run into issues. He hasn't been around lately too much though. [02:04] acidchi|d: get a different phone and call it a day. :P [02:04] the WiFi is broken on it :-( [02:04] its just a ipod touch. [02:04] your trying to get itouch working? [02:05] firebird619: I'll remember that (hopefully ;D) I should be able to get it working if I fudge around enough. [02:05] yep [02:05] antler: firebird619 http://slackadelic.com/~ash/sadface.jpg [02:05] acidchi|d: You'll maybe have to ask dtanner too, he has it working with VBox and Vista VM. [02:06] acidchi|d: your on flux? What theme is that? [02:06] agentc0re|work: I am trying a build script for imlib2 that you wrote and I may have come across a syntax error. [02:06] Nyz [02:07] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [02:07] acidchi|d: ok, thanks. Don't you just love windows cryptic error codes "0x blah blah" [02:08] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-25-60.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [02:08] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [02:08] at least its better then 98's errors where even the developers didn't have a clue what they meant haha. [02:08] haha [02:09] acidchi|d: and your trying with it over wifi or direct with the cable? [02:09] ooohhh... pretty music with dinging noises as MS Windows Welcomes me :D haha [02:09] direct cable. [02:09] the WiFi is dead. [02:09] =( [02:09] acidchi|d: Well your just up a creek without a paddle huh? :P [02:10] acidchi|d: I've seen that some people jailbreak the itouch and install ssh on it and go from there. [02:10] yeah but that goes over wifi [02:10] which is dead [02:10] =P [02:11] haha, oops. :) [02:11] i wouldn't even use windows if i could scp mp3s =P [02:11] i tried my blackberry too :-( [02:11] All my music is in either ogg or flac. :) [02:11] no worky [02:11] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [02:11] has anyone tryed pinot? [02:11] Is flac a new format? [02:11] its fucking awesome :) [02:11] lf4: lol [02:11] There was another site I had found that told how to do it with linux, I can't find the darn link now. [02:11] lf4: hell no :-P its a loss less format :P [02:11] lf4: no [02:12] lies [02:12] lf4: It's lossless and it's fantastic. [02:12] lol nice [02:12] theyre lying [02:12] schneiderr (n=me@p54BBABE8.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:12] firebird619: http://pinot.berlios.de/index.html [02:13] maybe your lying shinichi. Ever think of that? Maybe your uninformed. [02:13] Action: lf4 always googles my info because the internet never lies ;) [02:13] i just tried this out and it was good enough to add to my startup scripts. [02:13] =) [02:13] lf4: ain't that the truth. :P [02:13] firebird619: sir, I would never lie to you or anyone in this channel... :) [02:13] haha, yeah right. [02:13] :( [02:13] Action: acidchi|d maces shinichi [02:13] D: [02:13] acidchi|d: you got me grepping logs now to find that link, I'm curious now. [02:14] acidchi|d: pinot looks real nice. [02:14] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [02:14] yeah man, it even explods DVIs and PDFs [02:14] nice [02:14] and you can use it to search wikipedia,google and loads of other sites including amozon [02:14] it even index my email in a faster nicer way to find stuff including their attachments. [02:15] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [02:15] acidchi|d: cool. which e-mail client you use? [02:15] claws [02:15] acidchi|d: I use opera, but claws is amazing, and SO FAST. [02:16] err... yes fast [02:16] but not as fast as i like [02:16] =P [02:16] acidchi|d: opera is about the fastest I've seen, but I like the fact that claws uses MH format and stores each e-mail individually. [02:16] well it sure makes pinot useful :P [02:17] acidchi|d: Do you have claws get your mail from isp or do you have a mail server or something set up. [02:17] Urh, I cannot find that link now, I know it's out there. [02:18] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [02:18] i have 2 mailservers.. 4 accounts [02:19] acidchi|d: What do you use for your mailservers, I've been thinking about setting one up myself lately to get my mail from isp and then have the mail client look in the mail directory? [02:19] ~25,000 emailsish and 9000 contacts in the address book [02:19] firebird619: ask Dominian [02:19] for sure ask Dominian [02:19] he pimps that shit hard, http://wiki.slackadelic.com/doku.php/howto:mailserver [02:19] is his howto that is out of date though. [02:20] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:20] still a nice guide though. [02:20] thanks acidchi|d. [02:20] the outcome is so much better now though with all the chances [02:20] changes* [02:21] that's a real in-depth guide. [02:21] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89E35.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:21] I have about 21,000 e-mails, thanks to mailing lists I was on. :P [02:22] morning! [02:22] haha :P [02:22] Good morning slackytude. How are you? [02:22] firebird619: email is the best way to get ahold of me :P [02:22] firebird619, great for a monday morning. how do you do? [02:22] acidchi|d: :P and opera has no way to remove dups. :( [02:22] firebird619: i guess pinot would search IRC logs too ;) [02:22] slackytude: Doing great. Thank you. [02:23] if you told it to look at irclogs/* from irssi [02:23] acidchi|d: that would be nice. :P [02:23] install it! [02:23] :D [02:23] acidchi|d: pinot slackbuild? [02:23] no source. [02:23] ok, that's alright too. :) [02:23] :D [02:23] I can even make my own slackbuilds, I have the basic knowledge anyway. [02:23] :D [02:24] That's a good skill to have. :) [02:24] ./configure --prefix=/usr? skillz [02:24] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-25-60.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:24] Oh man Vbox 2.2 is nice they fixed the issue with bridging networks in linux. :) [02:24] If I ever find that darn link, I'll let you know. [02:24] Yup, I gotz them skillz. :P [02:25] it also rates them on how related to your search they are. [02:25] cool [02:25] I had never heard of pinot [02:25] same! [02:25] its like grep + slocate + gui + google [02:25] it can do remote ? too i believe.. [02:26] whoa, it's got quite the list of prereqs. Know off hand how many are in slackware already? [02:26] you could do sshfs user@server:/home/users /mnt/server/ [02:26] and add that to the search [02:26] firebird619: lol i dont run slackware anymore :-( [02:26] acidchi|d: what are you on? slamd or something? [02:26] acidchi|d: what happened? [02:26] arch :P [02:26] lol [02:26] doh! [02:27] i got too busy for slackware :( [02:27] why arch? [02:27] acidchi|d: WHAT? WHAT? [02:27] too busy? [02:27] yeah, i just want a OS that works [02:27] I'm busy but don't have a problem with slackware [02:27] Ubuntu ;) [02:27] slackware is fucking awesome. [02:27] then you should be on slackware. [02:27] :P [02:27] lf4: Ubuntu ftl. :P [02:27] but i want a package manager :P [02:27] acidchi|d: You already have one, yourself. :P [02:27] well, you can always downgrade to slapt-get :) [02:28] slapt-get has fuck all packages. [02:28] keyword: downgrade [02:28] arch has AUR and its community and stock packages which includes ALOT of programs. [02:28] isn't slackpkg a pakage manager? [02:28] have you tried sbopkg yet? [02:28] they install nice and clean... [02:28] of course i have [02:28] lf4: yeah. [02:28] lf4: it just doesn't do dep resolution [02:28] what was the last version of sbopkg did you use? [02:28] i've run slackware for 8 years now... i dont dislike it, i use it for ALOT of servers [02:29] Ahh lol [02:29] 2 client-208-92-235-201.sevenl.net (208.92.235.201) 16.016 ms 1.279 ms 1.271 ms [02:29] 3 client-208-92-235-237.sevenl.net (208.92.235.237) 0.364 ms 0.324 ms 0.323 ms [02:29] 4 client-208-92-235-233.sevenl.net (208.92.235.233) 0.400 ms 0.349 ms 0.343 ms [02:29] all of them are slackware. [02:30] 02:31 -!- acidchi|d [n=ash@brouter.sevenl.net] [02:30] acidchi|d: good, and they better not switch to anything else. :P [02:30] ^^ slackware. [02:30] haha [02:30] :) [02:30] or what? [02:31] anyone know what distro of linux cisco puts on their routers? :D haha [02:31] acidchi|d: I haven't figured out punishment yet. [02:31] lf4: IOS is their own OS [02:31] firebird619: haha. [02:31] lf4: for BGP/IBGP/OSPF [02:31] you can use quagga... [02:31] lol acidchi|d sorry meant linksys ;) [02:32] QoS and firewalling you can use TC and ip and iptables. [02:32] acidchi|d: stuff like figuring out punishment takes great time and planning. :) The punishment needs to fit the crime. [02:32] lf4: openwrt.org? d-wrt.org? [02:32] haha firebird619 :P [02:32] i'll punish You! [02:32] unfortunately, the newer madwifi drivers have a problem with bridging mode [02:33] Me, Why? [02:33] why me? :P [02:33] i could blame you for your lack of NetBSD experiance. [02:34] Action: acidchi|d uses NetBSD alot too and ranks it just as high as slackware. [02:34] acidchi|d: cause switching from slackware would be like a felony, in some states anyway. Where you at? :P [02:34] NetBSD is nice [02:34] Toronto, Canada :-P [02:34] acidchi|d: Well, that's true. I've never used that. [02:34] acidchi|d: Ah crap, your free. I dropped the case. [02:34] haha [02:34] why would Slackware be a felony? [02:34] I wanted to try arch out as well [02:34] slackytude: bah, its epicly boring [02:34] :P [02:34] but it works.. [02:34] d4vidc: It was a joke, a felony if he switched to something other than slackware. :P [02:35] I thought you were talking about some legal nonsense [02:35] acidchild, does it come with pam and policykit? [02:35] I wanted to see them in action [02:35] err i dunno, lemme see if its PAM based. [02:35] d4vidc: nah, just joking around. [02:35] I guess it was a joke about network switching and switching OS [02:35] yeah, slackytude seems to have some aspects of pam... when you install it, it has nothing.. very nice clean basic install. [02:36] yup :) [02:36] rzimek78 (n=robert@abu158.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [02:36] slackytude: so you can install them with 'pacman' the package manager. [02:36] slackytude: I was meaning to ask you, does maps.google.com work in your opera? [02:36] freak its taking 4 times longer to update and patch this virtual-XP then it did to install it. I'm going to bed lol night all. [02:36] night lf4 [02:36] nunight lf4 :) [02:36] firebird619, yeah [02:36] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) left irc: "sleeping... good night :)" [02:37] slackytude: Hmmm, it must be the adsweep filters I have installed then, mine doesn't work. [02:37] bbiab [02:37] firebird619, Im on 9.52 here, tho [02:37] let me switch versions [02:37] 9.64 here, but should be the same. [02:37] ok, bbiab. [02:38] same in 10.0 [02:38] except faster ^-^ [02:39] i guess updating VM OS's depends on harddrive speed and your CPU's virtualization modes. [02:40] for anyone who is using / has used arch linux, what are your thoughts on it? [02:41] using /? [02:41] i think i have a root in my fs :P [02:42] sure it's not a root canal? :) [02:43] http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/zip/1141550369.html [02:43] slackytude: hmm, it must be my filters then. Thanks. [02:43] what the hell [02:43] 2 cleaning mops [02:43] heavily used [02:44] why would someone want to go out of their way to pick up someones old used mops?!?! [02:50] acidchi|d: I'd rather get a new mop. :P [02:50] who wouldn't? [02:50] seen them? they are damn gross [02:51] acidchi|d: I'm sure there's some out there browsing craigslist right now and say "Whoa, look at that, some mops, I'm gonna get em" [02:51] Action: acidchi|d eats elbow [02:52] Anyways the girlfriend is bugging me about being hungry, so bbl. gonna go get something to eat. [02:52] acidchi|d: later. [02:53] slackytude: Now I made a new filter in opera for mail, and it won't populate at all. [02:53] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430340.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:53] filter? [02:53] as in spam filter? [02:54] slackytude: No, just filter to filter certain messages to a folder. [02:55] slackytude: This one, in particular, is for sent mail, because I can't export sent mail otherwise. [02:55] that sucks [02:56] slackytude: Ahhh, I think I figured it out. [02:56] yup, got it. I forgot to click, "filter exisiting messages". :P I FAIL. [02:57] There's still something wrong, it's not showing all the same messages as in sent. [02:58] Whoa, something is messed up, it's showing e-mail sent on December 12, 2009, that isn't even here yet. [02:58] time travel! [02:58] haha, I guess. [02:58] any stock information in it? [02:58] or maybe horse race results [02:58] slackytude: No, I wish. [02:59] "And "time travel" crosses the finish line first, what an amazing comeback folks" [02:59] lol [03:01] maybe tomorrow, the new opera 10 snapshot will be out. :P [03:03] [Nada]_ (n=chatzill@pool-173-57-156-2.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:09] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [03:10] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.91.235) left irc: "leaving" [03:11] mmm yeah [03:12] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:13] y0 nullboy [03:13] yo [03:13] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: "IRC is just multiplayer notepad" [03:14] Hey nullboy. How's it going? [03:16] frullet (n=Bob@124-171-59-12.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [03:17] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-169-134-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:18] Lalloso (n=h4x0r@62.123.95.200) joined ##slackware. [03:18] chillin [03:18] like a villain [03:18] hello [03:19] Lalloso: Hello [03:20] chillin like a villain [03:20] nice [03:20] comp_ (n=comp_@81.196.151.9) joined ##slackware. [03:20] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:26] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:26] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) left irc: "leaving" [03:26] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.77.72.182) left irc: "leaving" [03:27] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.91.235) joined ##slackware. [03:28] which is the suggested alternative to checkinstall at the moment? :) [03:29] checkinstall works fine. pull it from git [03:30] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [03:30] Lalloso, nothing I know of. I hear you can use some ftrans action on it to get it to work, dunno I dont use it. [03:30] ...checkinstall works fine... [03:30] git clone http://checkinstall.izto.org/checkinstall.git [03:30] gogogo. [03:31] if it works fine why it's still out from 12.2? =) [03:31] fine forget it [03:31] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@72.252.50.96) left irc: "Saliendo" [03:31] Quote from the checkinstall site: "In there you'll find support for at-style llibrary calls which fixes the incompatibility issues with newer utilities." [03:33] and nothing is stopping you from using makepkg either [03:35] okay [03:36] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host163-78-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:44] amazon10x (i=amazon10@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-8e45b8daabb1de58) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:46] Strykar (i=wakka@gateway/tor/x-dee644cd9e0c935f) joined ##slackware. [03:47] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:48] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [03:50] superGear (i=1000@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [03:50] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [03:54] Well, time for me to get going. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. [03:56] see ya [03:56] later slackytude. [03:56] ^-^ [03:57] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [03:57] gbelknap (n=ubuntu@c-76-125-184-115.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:59] audioslave. mmmhmmm [03:59] Im no slave to audio! [03:59] hehe [04:00] i like music but in short, powerful doses [04:00] hello nullboy :-) [04:00] hey man! [04:00] :> [04:01] i don't know why but i find this clip hilarious http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=8a2505951bc80ed4011c0ae9391e02e9 [04:01] i can relate to the sound guy [04:03] doesn't work in Canada :-( [04:03] oh dang man [04:03] thats lame :-/ [04:03] i'll rip it one sec [04:10] can't stream it but whatever [04:10] greymaus_ (n=greymaus@86-43-179-91-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [04:10] http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/metal_ep218_02_asfix_dl.flv [04:11] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.142.248) joined ##slackware. [04:12] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:15] superGear (i=1000@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Success [04:15] frullet (n=Bob@124-171-59-12.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:16] superGear (i=1000@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [04:17] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: "SXEmacs - The Best A Geek Can Get - http://www.sxemacs.org/ or app-editors/sxemacs" [04:17] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [04:18] halpz (n=matt0@CPE-60-226-3-65.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:18] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:20] Hey, I added a user to audio group then changed my run level from 3 to 4. Now I changed it back to 3, now when I type startx as anyone but root the command just hangs :/ [04:21] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) joined ##slackware. [04:22] dont startx as root lest you like a messed up box [04:23] I only did it to test the command [04:23] hmm, do modern slackwares get trashed by that? [04:23] I've done it before with no side effects [04:24] used to be able to run X as root with no ill effect, unless some app you ran got sploited [04:24] considering all the errors that are *spammed* on the screen as you logout of X that you see on the screen , why tempt fate [04:25] why would you want to allow root to use dbus/hal and see the usb ports is beyond me. [04:25] or firewire [04:25] rrrr, root can see all that stuff [04:26] used to be, startx as root was more like "not recommended, possibly insecure", not "instantly trash your system" [04:26] damn [04:26] what did I try to download from sbo just now [04:26] ther's nothing safe about dbus/ that root she be listening to it in a session [04:27] halpz, how did you change groups [04:27] God dammit the 'startx' command doesn't even give me any errors :| throw me a bone here [04:27] ther's a lot of things just plain wrong even logging in as root [04:27] eh, startx also doesn't necessarily imply dbus (only if KDE is your window manager) [04:27] Urchlay, xfce too [04:27] is it talk like a pirate day already? [04:27] slackytude 'usermod -G username audio' I think [04:27] Old_Fogie, xfce will start without dbus, it wont be able to start kde stuff, I think [04:28] halpz, that means you are only in audio now [04:28] Old_Fogie, morning btw [04:28] O rly? [04:28] Old_Fogie: hey mate [04:28] rly [04:28] fuck [04:28] Strykar (i=wakka@gateway/tor/x-dee644cd9e0c935f) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:29] "vi /etc/group" is actually probably a lot safer than risking a typo with usermod, at least on a single-user desktop [04:29] read "xinitrc.xfce" in /etc/X11/xinit lately? ssh-agent, dbus, yes it is started/requested when you start it. [04:29] gpasswd -a USER GROUP [04:29] Old_Fogie, yes, but xfce still works, somewhat [04:30] but I'm not gonna debate this foolishness, if people want to "advise people that it's okay to startx and run as root" - well I'll just have to be quiet then about the foolishness [04:30] What groups shoudl I add myself to then? [04:31] halpz, typically "man,mail,scanner,cdrom,floppy,games,lp,slocate,power,plugdev,audio" [04:31] didn't say it's *OK* to do that. I said it didn't used to immediately trash your system, wanted to know if it does that now [04:32] (cause I haven't tried it in like 5 years, is why I ask) [04:33] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [04:33] you get a hung app, or X for whatever reason, and have to "zap" it, you now have read/write, and can have them files hosed. [04:34] OK thanks going to reboot now [04:34] halpz (n=matt0@CPE-60-226-3-65.qld.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [04:36] join #java [04:36] oops [04:36] in fact numerous times, and I've stopped since becuase you learn by your mistakes, I've had gksu and kdesu not exit out right, next thing I know, root owned my home, or my .Ice... and couldn't log in, or my /var/tmp/... what a mess. [04:38] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.91.235) left irc: "leaving" [04:38] sounds like poorly written code... if it can't work right when run as root, it should print out "don't run as root" and exit without breaking anything [04:39] agreed on that [04:39] (in fact maybe the startx script ought to do that by default, and make you set some environment variable like I_AM_AN_IDIOT_LET_ME_RUN_X_AS_ROOT=yes) [04:39] yeah, I mean I'd love to at times, use gedit, or a file manager as root, but I'm sick of the mishaps that happen when you do. [04:40] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:40] gedit ought to work with sudo [04:40] dunno about file managers, if you mean ones like konq [04:40] yeah kde has one, that too, the kdesu does it too [04:40] will own my home [04:40] vim works great with sudo, that's 99% of what I need :) [04:41] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:41] my least favorite thing is trying to run growisofs with sudo... it detects sudo and refuses to run [04:41] I use mc as root, and console editors and full cli now, and it's not just slack, it's other distros too I've seen this. [04:41] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [04:41] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:42] (unless you give it the option -use-the-force-luke (not joking...)) 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[04:54] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@c114-76-224-143.farfl3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [04:54] multimas (n=multimas@c80-216-207-92.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [04:55] i think i can make a full sentence with one word and a period [04:56] Dang. [04:58] 'Great.' was a sentence by the same logic [04:59] (and grammatically, both can well be considered proper sentences), anyway :) [04:59] Beware! grammar nazis! [04:59] halpz (n=matt0@CPE-60-226-3-65.qld.bigpond.net.au) joined ##slackware. [04:59] Got my stuff working :) [04:59] Great. [04:59] Thanks Old_fogie and etc.. [04:59] OH AHAHA >_> [05:00] halpz, how? [05:00] Dandy. [05:00] oh, wow, that's annoying [05:00] y0 Urchlay [05:00] Urchlay, what is? [05:00] halpz (n=matt0@CPE-60-226-3-65.qld.bigpond.net.au) left ##slackware. [05:00] transmission gui has gotten hung, but I don't want to kill it because it's still pulling down 3Mbit according to wmnet [05:00] slacky [05:00] heh [05:00] heh, it noticed me talking about it and jumped to 5Mbit [05:02] dunno why the gui's frozen, it's barely using any CPU [05:03] ah. It was trying to write() to stderr, and I had pressed ^S in the console where I originally started it. D'oh! [05:03] hehe [05:03] (transmission:3490): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: value "-100" of type `gint' is invalid or out of range for property `value' of type `gint' [05:03] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [05:03] wonder what that means in frickin english [05:04] how do you unfreeze them again ? [05:04] ^Q [05:04] ah right [05:04] I always forget that [05:04] but a GUI app hanging cause of that, is horrid [05:05] its kinda pointless anyway [05:05] well usually transmission gets started by me clicking a link in FF [05:05] so its stdout/err isn't visible anyway [05:05] same for my ktorrent [05:06] what's *really* wrong with it, is that it can't handle 20+ torrents, even though all but 3 of them are paused [05:09] with transmission? [05:10] yeah [05:10] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [05:11] wouldn't have so many torrents open in the client, except most of them are weird old things that aren't very popular, I try to seed them, nobody connects for days at a time [05:11] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit." [05:14] grazymax (n=grazymax@host99-154-dynamic.35-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. 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[05:35] Yep it was received [05:35] ok [05:35] I can do nothing about it until I get back from work [05:35] I also mailed Pat [05:35] But your proposed solution should work [05:35] alienBOB, it works but might need the -W flag [05:36] the man page for -W in current differs from the old -w, so I havent been using it [05:36] The -W flag needs more I think. Probably the -u as well. I will play some tonight [05:36] ok thanks [05:40] gynterk (n=gynterk@78-28-101-201.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [05:44] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [05:50] superGear (i=1000@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Connection timed out [05:50] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:51] guys when having a machine with multiple NICs [05:51] superGear (i=1000@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [05:51] which is the best way to do with /etc/hosts ? [05:51] a different hostname for each NIC or the same for every NIC? [05:51] obviously I can modify also entries in my primary DNS server [05:53] anyone got bluetooth running and can tell me if/what lspci should list for a bluetooth trans/receiver? [05:54] had a quick look last night trying to get bluetooth running on my T42 but didn't get far, and also there is no bluetooth led although it is claimed to have bt in bios [05:55] Lalloso, I would just have one hostname. [05:57] Lalloso: one hostname.. but never referenced... CNAMEs per service [05:58] thx [05:59] thats the way everything is here [05:59] theres a cname for every service, so it doesnt matter what host it runs on or is moved to [05:59] box hostnames then barely matter [06:07] frullet (n=Bob@124-171-59-12.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:08] jgor (i=jgor@66.112.231.174) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:09] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-25-60.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. 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[06:32] people, i want to enable dual head on slack i tried everything even replaced the DVI adpater, nothing happens... monitor on DVI is CRT monitor. i've red all possible tutorials.. anyone knows something what might help? [06:33] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [06:33] pupit: Please mention everything (software-wise, not praying, etc) that you have 'tried' so far, which environment you're in, etc etc. Basically you have given absolutely no information so far. [06:34] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [06:35] multimas: 12.1 slack, nvidia integrated card KDE and on the D-sub output is the tft wide monitor [06:36] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:36] pupit: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before [06:37] i've tried to replace the monitors, nothing. interesting thing is that when i try to setup on Nvidia X server setings, it reads the CRT monitor, but sends no output on the DVI [06:37] mutimas, u could say, that u dont know, not to point me to that. dumbass [06:38] pupit: Have you told your computer that you want multihead output? [06:38] ofcourse [06:38] pupit: Because you haven't given _ANY_ information regarding that! [06:38] So obviously _I_ will not _probe_ you until I get you to give all the information [06:38] pupit: provide the information first, and then we can assess what the problem is. [06:39] what else do u want? [06:39] seems to me, that u have no clue what am i talking about [06:39] pupit: paste your Xorg.conf or something, for starters. [06:39] pupit: *anything*? How did you tell your computer that you wanted DVI, what did it say in response - did you get an error? Did it explode? What did the logfile say? have you posted the logfile online? I just said I was not going to _probe_ you [06:40] pupit: Then again I'm a dumbass, so yeah. [06:40] Dumbasses can't do anything, can they. [06:40] u talk to much... [06:40] "you", "too" [06:41] I suppose someone who can't spell "too" can't be expected to set up dual-head. [06:41] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [06:41] Nor be even reasonably polite. [06:41] its a misstype [06:41] im hungarian [06:41] I'm Swedish [06:41] what's your fucking point? [06:41] kama_ (n=kama@host136-118-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:41] I take the time to at least try, bitch. [06:41] thatu talk too much [06:41] thattlololol [06:41] Good luck [06:41] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:42] jesus... [06:43] Really. Paste the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf to an online pastebin. http://pastebin.ca/ for example. [06:43] And any error messages. [06:43] mogunus: http://pastebin.ca/1404736 [06:45] mogunus, what file to look for errors? /var/log....? [06:46] Xorg.0.log [06:46] ;) [06:47] This looks correct, and it was generated by nvidia-settings. [06:48] yes [06:48] i've tried everything [06:48] As my config file was. Interesting. Is this a laptop? [06:48] even xorg. log is fine [06:48] no [06:48] its an integrated graphics [06:50] nvidia integrated graphics with two ports? [06:50] as iyes [06:50] yes* [06:50] Have you checked bios settings? [06:50] ofcourse, i've enabled all [06:50] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:50] even tried with "auto" [06:50] nothing [06:51] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:51] Output of lspci? [06:51] wait a sec [06:52] http://pastebin.ca/1404740 [06:54] one port(DVI) wont fire up the monitor, but reads the monitor name and puts it in the xorg.conf [06:55] what is your mobo model? [06:55] biostar gf7050-m2 [06:56] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Connection reset by peer [06:56] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:57] Have you tried with/without xinerama? [06:57] yes [06:58] even with twinview [06:58] the disableing the enableing then xinerama, changing res.. all [06:58] red the online tutorials on LQ [06:58] futile.. [07:00] its anyoing because, no one had an error like this on web... [07:01] Seemingly obvious question: do you know if the card actually supports multihead? Sometimes embedded cards have two outputs but can only use one at a time. [07:01] mogunus: it may be... [07:02] but, its a silly thing to put two ports, right? [07:02] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left ##slackware. [07:02] In which case, if I were you, I would put the TFT monitor on DVI. LCD's tend to look better on DVI than vga. [07:03] CygnusX1 (n=CygnusX1@69.245.162.6) joined ##slackware. [07:03] mogunus: not quite [07:03] as i sad, DVI sends no ouptpu [07:03] output* [07:03] i'll check this, i'll will solve it, it's a matter of time, thanks for help i appreciate :) [07:03] If its digital out.. hook it to digital in also s/digital/analogu/e [07:03] Oh, even when it is the only output in use? [07:04] even than mogunus [07:04] Zordrak: ther are two d-sub i am using an DVI to d-sub adaptor [07:05] coolguy4 (n=alex@60-241-80-116.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. 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BitchX has been removed from Slackware! :) [07:59] people still use bitchx? [07:59] Ilie (n=slacker@info-a-5.info.uaic.ro) joined ##slackware. [07:59] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:01] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host9-1-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [08:03] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [08:05] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.245) joined ##slackware. [08:07] hughszg1 (n=hugh_2@218.82.192.173) joined ##slackware. [08:10] Ilie (n=slacker@info-a-5.info.uaic.ro) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:12] Jean (n=jean@93-36-225-35.ip62.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [08:15] hughszg (n=hugh_2@218.82.192.173) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:19] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.94.13) joined ##slackware. [08:19] Karu (n=alch@181.106.50.84.sta.estpak.ee) left ##slackware. [08:21] Ilie (n=slacker@info-a-5.info.uaic.ro) joined ##slackware. [08:21] how can I autologin in slackware? [08:22] I'm using 12.2 with xfce, runlevel 4 [08:22] it would be an xfce config option. kde xdm has an autologin function, but not sure of xfce [08:23] I know about the kde autologin function, I'm interested how can I do it under xfce ;) [08:23] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:23] sorry - xfce is the wm, so you would have to look at the login manager functions [08:23] alisonken1home1, xfce is a DE not a wm [08:24] what do you use for the login manager? [08:24] sorry - de :) [08:24] xdm I guess , this is the default [08:24] lol, I guess I could search xdm autologin on gugle :) [08:24] ok - look at the xdm configuration options, then [08:24] god damn... `shopt -s dotglob` is my saviour [08:33] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:34] amro (n=amro@li37-20.members.linode.com) left ##slackware. 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[08:52] _arfon_ (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [08:52] <_arfon_> Can anyone tell me what is happening with Slackwiki??? [08:53] no idea [08:53] Action: Dominian will poke someone about it today though [08:55] Dominian: morning [08:55] <_arfon_> I noticed they 'upgraded' a few weeks ago and that seemed to blow the main page.... [08:56] superGear (i=supergea@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [08:56] <_arfon_> I went there last night to add more stuff and my account was gone (and the main page was still blown) [08:56] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [08:57] <_arfon_> I added my account again but I didn't have permissions to start a new page so, I gave up. [08:57] <_arfon_> I'd hate to see Slackwiki die, it's been far too useful. [08:57] there's a crashed mysql table tat needs fixing, and can't seem to get hold of anyone that has access [08:57] *that [08:57] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@86-42-178-187-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:58] alisonken1noc: morning [08:58] <_arfon_> Aren't you one of the ring-leaders of that Fred? [08:59] booteco (n=booteco@201.22.36.229.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:59] long ago he was [08:59] <_arfon_> :/ [08:59] If he had access to what needs fixing.. it'd be done by now ;) [08:59] Thursap (n=bnguyen@118.71.111.150) joined ##slackware. [08:59] <_arfon_> If all that work I put into slackwiki is gone, I'm gonna cry. [09:00] how to make Konsole recognize ~/.bashrc ? [09:01] iirc the shell references the .bashrc... not the application [09:01] and would probably help if you fully explain what you are trying to do [09:02] alisonken1home1 (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:02] i realize everything in .bashrc does not apply to Konsole, though Terminal works well [09:02] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:02] <_arfon_> Thursap, look here: http://fixunix.com/slackware/396796-konsole-bashrc.html [09:03] Would still help if people would explain the issue at hand [09:03] Far too often people come in and say "its not working" and never say what isn't working or what they are wanting to get working. [09:04] <_arfon_> Issue at hand: I want breakfast (and slackwiki fixed) [09:05] Dominian: for example, i put alias ll='ls -l' into .bashrc but in Konsole when i type ll it says: command not found, though it works fine in Terminal [09:06] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:06] means that Konsole does not recognize everything in .bashrc [09:06] _arfon_: thanks for the link [09:06] <_arfon_> NP... [09:07] yozzer (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:07] <_arfon_> Thursap, instead of messing with a bunch of alias'es... Aliai... (what's plural for alias?), why not just make little shell scripts the will work for any terminal proggie? [09:08] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.94.165) left irc: "leaving" [09:09] <_arfon_> You could drop them into /usr/local/sbin... [09:09] <_arfon_> !#/bin/sh [09:09] <_arfon_> ls-l [09:09] <_arfon_> ESC [09:09] <_arfon_> :w ll [09:09] <_arfon_> :q! [09:09] Thursap: change the command konsole runs to /bin/bash -l [09:10] <_arfon_> <---rebel [09:10] coolguy4 (n=alex@60-241-80-116.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: "Leaving" [09:14] if i set a new repository under /opt/svn/repository [09:14] with httpd webdav as a server method [09:14] the permissions for the filesystem [09:14] are apache:apache right? [09:15] I think httpd runs as apache in slack [09:17] Floops[w]1 (n=baihu@205.214.201.176) joined ##slackware. [09:18] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:18] Ilie (n=slacker@info-a-5.info.uaic.ro) left irc: "Leaving" [09:18] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:19] Thursap (n=bnguyen@118.71.111.150) left irc: "leaving" [09:19] artv61 (n=art@216.6.155.17) left irc: "leaving" [09:21] pwc101 (n=zorokevs@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:21] pwc101 (n=zorokevs@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [09:24] pwc101 (n=zorokevs@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:24] pwc101 (n=zorokevs@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [09:24] pwc101 (n=zorokevs@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:26] <_arfon_> Without checking: Lalloso... Doesn't apache run as nobody:nogroup? [09:26] <_arfon_> Wait, FS permissions... I THINK they are root:root [09:28] pwc101 (n=zorokevs@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [09:29] mmm root:root were my default permissions [09:29] but apache complained about permissions [09:29] <_arfon_> Take a look here: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Apache-WebDAV-LDAP-HOWTO/config-webdav.html [09:29] so I switched to apache:apache [09:30] <_arfon_> In those instructions it keeps saying: [09:30] <_arfon_> # chown -R nobody var/ # chgrp -R nobody var/ [09:30] I think for svn is a bit different [09:31] pwc101 (n=zorokevs@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:31] if you issue ps -aux | grep httpd it seems to me apache user runs httpd [09:31] <_arfon_> I tried. sorry :( [09:31] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:32] greetings [09:32] <_arfon_> Yep, mine says: [09:32] <_arfon_> apache 7432 0.0 1.0 60484 6960 ? S Apr14 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd -k start [09:32] <_arfon_> apache 10112 0.0 1.0 60484 6928 ? S Apr15 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd -k start [09:32] Channel flood from _arfon_ -- kicking [09:32] <_arfon_> apache 22579 0.0 1.0 60484 6932 ? S Apr21 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd -k start [09:32] <_arfon_> apache 23087 0.0 1.0 60484 6936 ? S Apr21 0:00 /usr/sbin/httpd -k start [09:32] _arfon_ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [09:33] _arfon_ (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [09:33] <_arfon_> That was fun [09:33] Action: The-Croupier has never been kicked ;) [09:33] :-) [09:33] <_arfon_> Paste multiple lines and you will be :) [09:33] moonhead (n=trip@ip-129-15-127-150.fennfwsm.ou.edu) joined ##slackware. [09:34] _afron_ you enjoyed that... do it again..;) [09:34] <_arfon_> Nah... too much work typing it all in so fast. [09:34] <_arfon_> My fingers are tired [09:34] lol [09:35] what's up gentlemen? [09:35] <_arfon_> Not slackwiki [09:35] Action: The-Croupier is glad slackware is quiet.. that means: ppl are getting more professional each day [09:35] pwc101 (n=zorokevs@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [09:36] <_arfon_> I realized something this weekend.... Have any of you noticed this? [09:36] pwc101 (n=zorokevs@94-192-0-60.zone6.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:36] <_arfon_> Ubuntu is really dumbing down the Linux community... [09:36] you just realized this? [09:36] dumbing down? [09:37] moonhead, it had to be realised over a weekend ;) [09:37] <_arfon_> I was looking into setting up an e-mail server and 5 years ago, I would have run into 50,000 HOW TOs... [09:37] :D [09:37] hughszg (n=hugh_2@218.82.192.173) joined ##slackware. [09:37] <_arfon_> Now, all I get on a goole search is forums posts like: "Download the Ubuntu package" [09:37] booteco (n=booteco@201.22.36.229.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:37] <_arfon_> Then ZIP on how to configure it... [09:38] booteco (n=booteco@200.139.121.63.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:38] <_arfon_> The other posts are from Ubuntu guys saying: "How do I configure it" then nada for useful replies. [09:39] <_arfon_> Anyone else noticing this? [09:39] naaahhh, havent used ubuntu since... [09:39] NEVER [09:39] <_arfon_> <---Tired of google returning Ubuntu forum posts [09:39] speaking of dumb [09:40] i'm missing libImlib2.so.1 [09:40] can't get fluxbox to start [09:40] i am tired of searching for how to configure windows and getting sites of ubuntu forums [09:40] :-/ [09:41] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:41] <_arfon_> Moon, fluxbox works after an install so did you add/change something ? [09:41] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Success [09:42] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [09:42] hmm, not to my knowledge [09:42] <_arfon_> Did it ever work? [09:42] nope [09:42] have been in kde forever. just decided to switch things up [09:42] <_arfon_> May I suggest you uninstall fluxbox... [09:43] word [09:43] <_arfon_> Pull out your install disc and install ALL libs [09:43] <_arfon_> Then re-install fluxbox [09:43] if I want to setup my slacky to always use a proxy when going out on the internet [09:43] <_arfon_> Actually, that was "words" [09:43] shall i put it in wgetrc or is there a more general config variable? maybe /etc/profile ? [09:44] thanks for the idea _arfon_ [09:44] or maybe some script in /etc/rc.local to export http_proxy= [09:44] <_arfon_> Don't know Lalloso, I've never used a proxy.... [09:44] <_arfon_> <---lies on the edge (NO PROXIES) [09:45] <_arfon_> should have been: "Lives on the edge" [09:45] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [09:46] <_arfon_> Lalloso, AlienBob is all over what you want: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:proxy [09:47] Eddie_grey (n=emaildoe@200.138.220.246) joined ##slackware. [09:47] derp. i did recompile my kernel last week. [09:48] I also would like to be on the edge :) [09:48] and then jump [09:49] this is not what I'm looking for but thx [09:49] <_arfon_> No biggie, my 'edges' are only 2ft high [09:50] Eddie_grey (n=emaildoe@200.138.220.246) left irc: Client Quit [09:51] d4vidc: ping. Check your pm. [09:53] Nick change: Floops[w]1 -> Floops[w] [09:53] there is not such a thing as a global http_proxy variable [09:54] since these things are shell based and it's just a convention for cli programs to honor these [09:55] canyouscore (n=canyousc@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [09:56] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) joined ##slackware. [09:56] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:56] hughszg1 (n=hugh_2@218.82.192.173) left irc: Connection timed out [09:56] copland-leopard (n=copland-@209.241.118.121) joined ##slackware. [09:58] yay.. noobfarm pagination fixes pushed! [10:00] jonsmith1982_ (n=chatzill@88-97-28-182.dsl.zen.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:03] Dominian, yeah .. i think there were lots missing there ;) [10:04] nah [10:04] it now shows NooB even if there is only onme page [10:04] searches work properly now for pagination [10:04] No, don't care if it doesn't work in IE [10:05] :) [10:05] moonhead (n=trip@ip-129-15-127-150.fennfwsm.ou.edu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:05] Dominian, trying to fish the windows ppl in here :( [10:06] naughty, but smart :p [10:06] heh [10:06] gotta go guys... Dominian is here.. ;) [10:06] Dominian, bye bye man ;) [10:06] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [10:08] Ilie (n=slacker@info-a-5.info.uaic.ro) joined ##slackware. [10:08] /usr/bin/wifi-radar.sh: line 4: 1653 Segmentation fault sudo wifi-radar $* [10:09] any ideas what's wrong, I installed using sbopkg wifi-radar and get this when I run it as root [10:09] and orion is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. [10:09] when I try to run it as a normal user [10:11] <_chess_> Ilie: did you do all the things mentioned in the wifi-radar README? [10:16] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host9-1-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "brb" [10:17] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.94.165) joined ##slackware. [10:18] _arfon_1 (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [10:18] I'm now installing the dependencies [10:18] _arfon_ (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [10:18] just a sec [10:19] _arfon_: looks like all content is still on slackwiki, just a messed up mysql tables like fred stated. http://slackwiki.org/Special:AllPages [10:20] RickyFloW (n=fl0w@190.80.194.221) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:21] <_arfon_1> Cool [10:21] <_arfon_1> I really hating mediawiki... nothing about it is easy [10:22] amazon10x (i=amazon10@85.8.24.245) joined ##slackware. [10:25] Dominian: you should have been here for the "some Slackbuilds I am trying to download are completely written in html" episode. It was hillarious. :P [10:26] yeah.. its on noobfarm now ;) [10:26] Nick change: _arfon_1 -> _arfon_ [10:27] Dominian: I know, thats why I brought it up. [10:27] hehe ok [10:28] I told him he was going to be famous pending approval. 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[10:47] <_arfon_> (Sorry, just being a slight troll) [10:47] nophis (n=amenophi@unaffiliated/nophis) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:48] nophis (n=amenophi@unaffiliated/nophis) joined ##slackware. [10:48] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:51] mercfate (n=chatzill@srvinternet.cometais.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:51] hi [10:51] anyone can help with squid? [10:52] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [10:52] <_arfon_> Ilie, I've read two forums posting on your problem... It seems you need to remove a directory... [10:52] the error page indicates the worng time [10:52] wrong* [10:52] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:52] +2 hours [10:52] <_arfon_> Look at Test-tools post: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fusion-icon/+bug/268577 [10:53] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. 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[13:29] hi ppl [13:29] hi [13:30] howdy [13:30] :) [13:30] perl -MCPAN -e install Symbol [13:31] eddie_grey (n=Usuario@200.138.220.246) left irc: "Fui embora" [13:31] firebird619: either Symbol is missing or its in some funky spot where @INC doesnt look [13:31] Necos: bash: perl: command not found. [13:32] perl -e 'print join("\n",@INC)' [13:32] lol your perl is fucked [13:32] frullet: Everything was working great yesterday. I installed claws-mail-extra-plugins last night, and today, this. [13:32] [Nada]___ (n=chatzill@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:33] Necos: I get the same thing, command not found. [13:33] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-29-212.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [13:33] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:33] claws-mail-extra-plugins? hmmm i'm guessing it overwrote some of your perl stuff [13:34] Necos: It sure did something not good. [13:34] It was from SBo. [13:34] Action: frullet takes a look at the build script [13:35] [Nada] (n=chatzill@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:35] an ls /var/log/packages | grep perl shows that perl isn't installed. [13:35] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [13:36] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [13:36] Can I just slackpkg install perl then? [13:37] firebird619: have you tried running the command: which perl [13:37] Ahh, claws-mail-extra-plugins builds extra plugins, including perl, so that's maybe what happened to it. [13:38] lf4: yeah, it says "no perl in" and then a list of directories. [13:38] michael_ (i=1000@72.4.62.139) joined ##slackware. [13:38] interesting you dont have perl installed... lol why? [13:38] lf4: I did before, but after installing claws-mail-extra-plugins, it's magically disappeared. [13:39] no [13:39] weird [13:39] firebird619: "ls /var/log/removed_packages/perl*" [13:40] /var/log/removed_packages//perl-5.10.0-i486-1-upgraded-2009-04-27,02:42:52 [13:40] [Nada]__ (n=chatzill@129.110.242.7) left irc: Success [13:40] and ls /var/log/packages/perl* ? [13:40] That would fit the time of when I installed claws-mail-extra-plugins. [13:41] that shows nothing thrice`. [13:41] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [13:41] looks like an upgrade didn't finish properly. did you ctl+c out of one ? [13:43] thrice`: The last upgrade I did was, iirc, yesterday, and that didn't even have anything to do with perl. That time for the removed perl is about the time I installed the claws-mail-extra-plugins, which going by the description on SBo, builds it's own perl. [13:43] michael_ (i=1000@72.4.62.139) left irc: "Leaving" [13:43] thrice`: The last update was for cups. [13:44] then uninstall the shit, install perl again, and be happy [13:44] nooper (i=nooper@2001:41c8:0:866:21c:c0ff:fe7f:7198) left irc: "There is no spoon" [13:45] Necos: Ok. :) [13:45] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:46] To find out a girl's faults, praise her to her girl friends. --ben franklin. (konsole fortune) lol [13:46] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [13:46] lol [13:46] antler: I like that one. [13:46] that's awesome. [13:46] That should be a t-shirt [13:47] and man is it true! [13:47] firebird_619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:47] my gf is laughing at that, and also beleives its true [13:47] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "Leaving" [13:48] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [13:48] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [13:48] That solved the problem. Thanks guys. [13:49] firebird_619: :I doubt claws-mail-extra-plugins builds its own perl, where did you see that? [13:49] firebird619: what did? uninstalling and reinstalling perl? [13:49] installing perl, yes. [13:49] So, I am now back in irssi. :D [13:51] [Nada]_ (n=chatzill@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:54] nooper (n=nooper@c-71-60-234-252.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:54] d4vidc: did I not tell you that you'd be famous? http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1506 [13:55] lol [13:55] stillbor1 (n=blow_my_@KMMMCCXLVIII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [13:56] http://chopp.homelinux.com/pub/wrong5.jpg [13:57] So thats how you remove the heatsink! I always did it wrong. [13:57] stillbor2 (n=blow_my_@YIII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:58] lol [13:58] ah poor mans water cooling [13:58] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-136.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. 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[14:10] http://chopp.homelinux.com/pub/loud_sex.png <---- LOL [14:11] chopp: wtf? http://chopp.homelinux.com/pub/cat5.jpg <--- best wedding bands ever [14:11] lol [14:12] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.100) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:12] nice [14:13] Necos: won't set you back three months salary either. :P [14:14] / [14:14] RitualMast3r (i=1000@62.221.152.41) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:17] mogunus (n=user@173.9.7.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:18] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-75-35-180-38.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:24] http://chopp.homelinux.com/pub/sexor.jpg <--- oshit... I need that shirt [14:25] giuppy (n=giuppy@host24-53-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:25] giuppy (n=giuppy@host24-53-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:25] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:42] Alright here goes... time to attempt to get the iTouch to work. :) [14:43] Opis (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:44] lf4: good luck. [14:45] dscpl0 (n=sulo@cpe.atm2-0-76461.bynxx16.customer.tele.dk) left irc: "Leaving" [14:46] looks like I'll need it haha I forgot to add the USB support in windows. :P [14:46] haha, yup, you need it then. :) [14:48] kozandr (n=kozandr@83.167.104.118) joined ##slackware. [14:50] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-75-35-180-38.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:50] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-156-25.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:54] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [14:54] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:54] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:56] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. 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[15:13] witz, i will not reboot! [15:13] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [15:13] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.156.152) joined ##slackware. [15:14] ^_- [15:14] edman007: bRaAaAaAiNs [15:15] hey so can iphones be used as 3G modems for laptops yet? [15:15] Doesn't matter for me, I shutdown everyday because the computers are in bedroom. Can't stand the noise level. [15:16] nullboy, noooo [15:16] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [15:16] what a ripoff [15:16] Rokula (n=test@c-76-112-198-29.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:16] nullboy, do the iphones work like that if you jailbreak it? [15:16] i dunno [15:16] Action: edman007 stabs witz [15:16] firebird619: lol this is weird I cant get any USB to pass through. [15:17] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430340.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:17] but the only reason i'd buy an iphone 3G is if i can use it as a modem for my laptop [15:17] nullboy, buy me one [15:17] i'll find out [15:17] or you can just send me the money [15:17] orlyQ [15:17] Q.Q [15:17] haha [15:17] I'll take a couple [15:19] nullboy, if you buy me enough i'll even tell you the defect rate [15:19] lf4: None at all? [15:20] Action: witz highfives edman007 [15:20] lol nope I just tried my OCZ USB drive and it wont even. It seems they are all grayed out. [15:20] lf4: Your in vboxusers, have a line added to fstab, and usb is enabled in vbox settings? Also, your using closed-source VBox. [15:21] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:21] I have to add my user to the vboxusers group? [15:21] yup [15:22] lol didn't know that... :) ok lets see. [15:22] lf4: :) [15:22] vbox is funny...i wonder if you just have a usbfs permission issue [15:23] not if he isn't in the vboxusers group to begin with. If it doesn't work after he's in vboxusers, then maybe a perms issue. [15:23] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: "check bios" [15:24] verify your group memberships first and then keep something like this in mind for fstab...tune for your needs though: none /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults,devgid=218,devmode=0777 0 0 [15:24] i just create a usbfs group [15:24] but i use kvm, not vbox [15:24] I use this: none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=102,devmode=664 0 0 [15:25] yeah, my 777 mode is sort of psycho [15:25] nullboy, its good to be psycho [15:26] then i'm the best! [15:26] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl5-183.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:26] hello everyone [15:27] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:27] Action: firebird619 hands nullboy a "Best Psycho" Certificate. [15:27] Hello Lord_Khelben [15:27] i need more brains [15:27] Nick change: nullboy -> nullzombie [15:27] nullzombie: How much more brains you need? [15:28] Action: nullzombie eats firebird619's brain [15:28] zombies want as many brains they can get :P [15:28] :( [15:28] nullzombie: Sorry, but you won't get much from me. :) [15:29] http://ventura.craigslist.org/ele/1140987971.html [15:29] stolen? [15:29] panzer_ (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:29] greymaus1 (n=greymaus@86.46.249.68) joined ##slackware. [15:29] yay! new ratpoison is out [15:29] greymaus1 (n=greymaus@86.46.249.68) left irc: Client Quit [15:29] nullzombie: I would say so [15:29] 150bucks.. unopened.. brand new.. and cash only? [15:30] greymaus1 (n=greymaus@86.46.249.68) joined ##slackware. [15:30] nullzombie: it seems suspicious none the less. [15:30] 4 redflags in my book [15:30] seriously lol [15:30] Hi Dominian. How are you? [15:30] er.. 160bucks [15:30] firebird619: doing good.. on hold with AT&t unfortunately.. [15:30] anyone have a EEEPC? [15:30] Dominian: Ah yes, the wonderful "Please wait for the next available representative". :) [15:31] Hey acidchi|d. How's it going? [15:31] aye [15:31] hey firebird619 :> [15:31] Dominian: how much time ? [15:31] trying to locate the WiFi card in my EEEPC [15:31] my record is 25 minutes with greek isp :(( [15:31] I once waited an hour on hold with Dell and then it cut to dial tone. [15:32] acidchi|d: get any further with your vbox usb issues? [15:32] hiptobecubic (n=john@129.171.233.66) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:32] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "bbiab" [15:32] firebird619: nope [15:32] acidchi|d: :( [15:32] humm still not working and I added the fstab info as well. Does linux need to reboot to get the new fstab? [15:33] lf4: Did you mount what you added to fstab? [15:33] Lord_Khelben: I just got of with them.. we have a T1 in a chronics issue state right now. [15:33] lf4: as root "mount none" [15:33] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.9.16) joined ##slackware. [15:33] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat078.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:33] lf4: that fstab change requires a group [15:34] and your user needs to be a part of that group [15:34] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [15:34] yeah gid102 which is my vboxusers [15:34] Dominian: Eh, AT&t. Hate them. I get like 1/10 of the advertised internet speed. [15:34] k [15:34] witz: hehe [15:34] more like 1/20 [15:34] firebird619: yeah its already mounted [15:34] lf4: And it's still grayed out? [15:34] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [15:35] checking now maybe I needed to restart all of vbox. [15:35] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-156-25.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [15:35] yeah still grayed out. [15:35] lf4: Yes you do, if you didn't close it before doing the fstab and stuff. [15:35] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:38] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:38] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host215-18-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao!" [15:40] weird I cant umount the usbfs because it says its busy but when I lsof I dont see it being used. [15:40] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-156-25.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:41] why do you want to umount it ? [15:41] so I can remount it and is if that might fix things. :) [15:41] _arfon_ (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) left ##slackware. [15:41] try to use -o remount [15:41] lf4: did you try umount none instead? [15:42] yeah didn't work either [15:42] could not find none [15:42] lol [15:42] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-156-25.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Client Quit [15:43] booteco (n=booteco@189.114.178.219.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [15:43] you can use -o remount or -o remount,devmode=something [15:43] if you also want to change the permissions [15:43] i read something about vbox [15:43] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:45] greymaus_ (n=greymaus@86-43-179-91-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:46] got it :) I just unplugged my drive from the computer then umount usbfs (hopefully it was not acccessing it and messed my data up). [15:47] lf4: good work. :). I guess you'll find out soon enough if anything is messed up. [15:47] usbfs doesn't access the drives [15:47] nullzombie (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [15:48] and even if it did, i assume the drive was unmounted when you unplugged it, so the data would be fine [15:48] Lord_Khelben: I know but when I tried to umount it said it was busy(something might have been). [15:49] darn it lol still grayed out, looks like getting usb to work is going to be more trouble then I thought. [15:49] lf4: Just remember, your a slacker, DON'T give up. :P [15:49] you need to use usb on virtualbox ? [15:50] Lord_Khelben: yes [15:50] firebird619: Oh I won't just need to do more reading :) [15:51] lf4: I have done the same steps I've mentioned to you. My VBox's usb works great. [15:52] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl8-66-180.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:52] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) joined ##slackware. [15:52] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.56.160) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:52] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [15:53] all better Linux neutrino 2.6.29.2-RAS #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Apr 27 12:44:30 PDT 2009 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [15:53] nullboy: Yay, new kernel. I'm just building it now. [15:53] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl5-183.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:53] Lord_Khelben (n=null@79.103.238.98) joined ##slackware. [15:53] sorry. greek isps .... [15:54] lf4: did you solve it ? [15:54] nullboy: It doesn't fix the wireless issue yet for you though, does it? [15:54] you mean the ath5k in master mode? [15:54] Lord_Khelben: Reading some thing that might work but looks really messy haha. [15:54] that's not going to work until kernel 4.0 [15:54] ;) [15:54] yeah, weren't you having an issue with that. [15:54] lf4: what device is it ? [15:55] nullboy: Oh, you got a while to wait then. :D [15:55] lol [15:55] nullboy: Something to look forward to. :) [15:55] Right now I'm trying to get any USB device to work in Vbox but its all really for my iTouch. [15:56] firebird619: the linux wifi stack is going through changes and it's a mess right now. most client stuff works but ap mode is not fully enabled in any kernel yet [15:56] lf4: at some time ago, i needed to get my printer appear in virtualbox and even when i changed the usb permissions it was grayed in virtualbox [15:56] lf4: Just to confirm, you are using closed source VBox, right? [15:56] and i needed to unload the lp module so the linux kernel wasn't using the printer [15:56] i don't know if that is your case but try to unload the relevant module [15:56] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:56] firebird619: yes I downloaded the .run file from vbo [15:57] nullboy: Ah, ok. I don't use wireless at all, but I know you were having that master mode issue. [15:57] lf4: Hmm, have you tried restarting the pc, probably won't help, but maybe worth a shot. [15:57] Lord_Khelben: I'll try that :) [15:57] haha firebird619 I know thats probably what will fix it and would be so funny. [15:57] lf4: this itouch appears as a disk ? if yes, then the module would be usb-storage [15:58] nullboy: I thought master mode was officially enabled in 2.6.29 [15:58] lf4: The fixes to big problems seem to usually be something simple. [15:58] sitwon: i said it is not FULLY enabled yet [15:58] Lord_Khelben: even my usb drive does not work. [15:58] sitwon: that claim was wrong [15:58] haha firebird619 I'm going to try it and see what happens... [15:58] sitwon: some drivers have it enabled but it is not enabled for all drivers yet [15:58] lf4: And then when it fixes it, you'll say "WHY didn't I try tha sooner?" [15:59] s/tha/that [15:59] firebird619: yeah I know haha thats why I asked if I needed to with the fstab change :) [15:59] greymaus1 (n=greymaus@86.46.249.68) left irc: "leaving" [15:59] nullboy: isn't it hardware-dependant? I was told some chipsets are not capable of supporting master mode [15:59] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.156.152) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:59] lf4: Well you shouldn't have to, but anything is possible. [15:59] sitwon: ... [16:00] what is master mode ? [16:00] I assumed that the driver that didn't have enabled *couldn't* have it enabled [16:00] greymaus (n=greymaus@86.46.249.68) joined ##slackware. [16:00] sitwon: i have hardware that supports master mode. the reports of 2.6.29 having ap mode enabled were wrong. it is only enabled for some drivers. [16:00] firebird619: yeah its a shot in the dark but who knows maybe I'll hit something ;) [16:00] alright brb [16:00] sitwon: that assumption is wrong then [16:00] lf4: yeah, maybe. [16:00] lns40: master mode = AP mode [16:00] sitwon: aaah ok :) [16:01] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) left irc: "rebooting" [16:01] sitwon: chopp and I have been following this very closely. [16:02] the kernel presently can be patched for ath5k/AP, but like nullboy is saying not all chipsets play nice with it as of yet. [16:03] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) joined ##slackware. [16:03] supergear_ (i=1000@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] lf4: any luck? [16:04] when 2.6.29 was released they just said "AP mode is supported now" but they did not say that it was only enabled for certain drivers. it was not enabled for all of the drivers that support master mode. the code is there in mac80211 and nl80211 but AP mode is not defined for all the drivers that can support it yet [16:04] lol [16:04] supergear_ (i=1000@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:04] firebird619: yes a reboot was needed for some odd reason [16:04] lf4: So it all works now? [16:04] the list said they were having beacon problems with some ath5k chipsets so they kept AP disabled for now [16:04] well its not grayed out at least... so one step forwards :) [16:05] lf4: good to hear. [16:05] yep windows sees my usb drive now time to mess with the itouch. [16:05] lf4: good luck [16:06] lol works :D [16:06] oh happy day [16:06] :) well done lf4 [16:07] Thanks for the help :) firebird619 and Lord_Khelben [16:07] panzer_ (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:07] mogunus (n=user@173.9.7.10) joined ##slackware. [16:07] yw lf4. Now to get the itouch working. :D. That could be a whole different beast in and of itself. :) [16:08] Ack. I successfully converted my sister to linux/slackware and she always manages to break something. Stupid wicd loves to lock up on her. [16:08] firebird619: is something wrong with it? [16:08] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [16:08] nooper: He's trying to get ipod touch working with Windows in VBox. [16:08] firebird619: lol I just plugged it in, windows detected it and installed the correct things then I started iTunes up and it saw it and is working 100%. [16:08] oh [16:09] I was just wishing him good luck on getting it going. [16:09] Nick change: stillbor1 -> stillborn [16:09] lf4: Awesome. That was easy. [16:10] yeah I was thinking the USB challenge would be 10% easier then getting the Itouch to work lol but there you go. :) [16:10] well now I have to actaully do some yardwork instead of playing on here, take care people. [16:10] peace [16:10] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl4-166-152.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [16:10] Hmm, I ran "make bzImage modules" (still needed?) and it errors out with something about softirq.o. What would cause that? [16:11] later lf4. [16:14] :( http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13021 [16:14] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.9.16) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:16] firebird619, try 'make' and 'make modules_install' [16:16] firebird619, this is 2.6.x kernel? [16:16] dive: 2.6.29.2 [16:16] ok [16:17] dive: make errors out with the same thing. [16:17] you just need to do what I said above [16:17] hmm [16:17] dive: but either way, the make bzImage modules isn't needed anymore? [16:17] no [16:17] ok [16:18] witz_____ (n=witz@adsl-69-227-214-90.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [16:18] dive: also, it's with the rt patch, does that make a difference with that error? [16:18] you might want to backup your .config and run 'make clean' and 'make mrproper' then put .config back in and try again from 'make' [16:18] rt patch? I'm not familiar with it [16:19] dive: real-time [16:19] ah [16:19] firebird619: that patch is still experimental... [16:19] Necos: Yes, I know, I've used it since 2.6.29 with no issues, but now I get this softirq error. [16:19] superGear (i=1000@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] dive: I'd run make clean and make mrproper from /usr/src/linux? [16:20] yes but backup .config first [16:20] or it will be wiped out [16:21] unless you want to run make menuconfig from scratch.. [16:21] dive: ok, I'll give that a try and see what happens. Thank you. I use slackware's huge smp config and change a few things from there. [16:21] http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/kernel-build-generic-method.txt [16:22] thank you nullboy [16:22] did you read the changelog for 2.6.29.2? [16:22] i did [16:22] the whole thing [16:22] no, i meant firebird619 nullboy =p [16:23] nullboy, I have one of those [16:23] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.156.157) joined ##slackware. [16:23] Necos: Yes, I read through it. Did I miss something pertaining to this issue? It is a big changelog. [16:23] http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/bash/cknox [16:24] there's an oops in that [16:24] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:25] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:25] fixed [16:25] where was the oops? [16:25] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:25] Ilie (i=1000@93.112.67.27) joined ##slackware. [16:26] I had an 'exit' in it from testing which I forgot to remove [16:26] I should perhaps put a $SOUNDFILE var too I think [16:26] oh lol [16:26] hi, I'm having some problems with wicd, I installed it from extra [16:26] bah anyone who can compile kernel should be able to do that [16:27] http://pastebin.com/d29121de4 [16:27] this is the error I get [16:27] Ilie: ls /var/log/packages/pygtk* [16:28] /bin/ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/pygtk: No such file or directory [16:28] and "cat /etc/*-version" ? [16:29] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:29] slackware 12.2 [16:29] Diagnosis: broken system. [16:29] 'slackpkg install pygtk' perhaps [16:29] no [16:29] I have pygtk installed [16:29] i suspect more than that [16:29] 2.14 [16:29] hmm [16:29] You have pygtk installed (clearly), but you do not have the Slackware package of it installed. [16:30] ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/_gtk.so: undefined symbol: gdk_window_remove_redirection [16:30] More importantly, the pygtk you have install is expecting symbols from something that you don't have installed. [16:30] it's present in pkgtool ... [16:30] i may be wrong but this means pygtk is installed [16:30] Lord_Khelben: correct [16:30] so either the gtk package isn't installed [16:30] or it is what rworkman said [16:30] I run xfce [16:30] 20:28 < Ilie> /bin/ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/pygtk: No such file or directory [16:30] yeah sorry I spoke without looking at the error [16:30] you have installed a binary package of pygtk and it expects some other gtk [16:30] perhaps add a * [16:31] ls /var/log/packages/pygtk* [16:31] -su: /var/log/packages/pygtk-2.14.0-i486-1: Permission denied [16:31] I'm logged in ar root ... [16:31] WHAT? [16:31] ...? [16:31] as * [16:31] >P [16:32] Ilie: you tried to run it ? [16:32] just a sec [16:32] eh? [16:32] I copy/pasted the wrong stuff :) [16:32] su -c 'ls /var/log/packages/pygtk*' [16:32] put a -l on the ls also [16:32] /var/log/packages/pygtk-2.14.0-i486-1 [16:32] anyway, pygtk is installed [16:32] ah nevermind [16:32] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32629 2009-04-27 17:35 /var/log/packages/pygtk-2.14.0-i486-1 [16:32] why su for running ls ? [16:32] Ilie: did you upgrade to -current ? [16:32] I copy/pasted wrong [16:32] no thrice` [16:33] he was saying he was running it as root >.> [16:33] well the version for 12.2 should be pygtk-2.12.1-i486-2 I believe [16:33] Ilie: ls -l "/var/log/packages/gtk+2*" [16:33] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 59590 2009-04-16 13:19 /var/log/packages/gtk+2-2.12.12-i486-1 [16:33] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat078.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:33] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:33] actually, he probably should do this: ls /var/log/packages/*gtk* [16:33] you have the 2.12 gtk which is the 12.2 version [16:33] and you have the -current pygtk [16:34] ding ding [16:34] yes but his pygtk is later [16:34] you broke your system [16:34] congratulations [16:34] darmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:34] Ilie: don't mess -current packages with -stable ones [16:34] dive, he has a package mismatch [16:34] Necos, yes I know [16:34] Action: rworkman should have caught that. Good catch, Lord_Khelben [16:34] either upgrade fully to -current or stick with 12.2 [16:34] =p [16:34] Necos, 09:33 < dive> well the version for 12.2 should be pygtk-2.12.1-i486-2 I believe [16:35] so I guess I should remove pygtk and install the one from 12.2 ? [16:35] ;P [16:35] Ilie, yes [16:35] Ilie: yes [16:35] i missed that one dive ^_^ [16:35] but is it only the pygtk which you have installed ? [16:35] Ilie, do you use slackpkg? [16:35] mayber other packages are wrong too [16:35] s/mayber/maybe [16:35] Nick change: darmouth -> tomcat [16:36] I remember installing some packages from source [16:36] hmm :) [16:36] thanks for the tips [16:36] Ilie, do you use slackpkg? [16:36] tomcat (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [16:36] no dive [16:36] pkgtool and sbopkg [16:36] darmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:36] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:37] Nick change: darmouth -> dartmouth [16:37] ok so now you need to go to slackware package browser and download and upgradepkg the correct version for 12.2 [16:37] thanks for the tips guys [16:37] Action: frullet has insomnia [16:38] Action: Necos slaps frullet silly [16:38] I'm trying to learn more about how to build packages, one question, why are packages between releases incompatible ? [16:38] why can't I install something from 12.1 in 12.2 ? [16:38] damn my sleeping patterns [16:38] or something from -curent (which is the newest one) on an older system ? [16:38] Ilie: programs have some dependencies libraries and stuff [16:38] because packages are built against libs [16:38] and libs can change between versions [16:39] updates [16:39] because dependencies fail [16:39] shouldn't they keep some compatibility with the older ones ? [16:39] no [16:39] hell no :) [16:39] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-75-35-180-38.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:39] they should, but often don't [16:39] Ilie: some times the api doesn't change so you can use an older library, but generally no [16:39] Ilie: because tool chans change between versions sometimes and -current is not for upgrading packages. -current is for dev work toward the next release.... [16:39] sometimes they realize the old way of doing things was wrong, and strip it away [16:39] tool chains* [16:40] weird ... [16:40] it's not weird [16:40] not weird [16:40] same reason you cant install ford fenders on a chevy [16:40] that's not a really good analogy [16:40] hey firebird619, have you seen this? hrtimer: fix rq->lock inversion (again) [16:41] in the 2.6.29.2 changelog [16:41] reason you can't install chevy 1970 fenders on a 2009 chevy [16:41] new kernel? [16:41] Necos: yes, I seen that. [16:41] Pig_Pen: yup, 2.6.29.2 [16:41] that's your softirq problem... the timer's off [16:42] Action: Ilie learned a valuable lesson today, you can't mix packages from different sources in slackware, thanks guys [16:42] yw [16:43] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:43] Ilie: for the record, you can try to recompile newer sources for older version but that is up to you to figure out how to do. [16:43] Necos: It says in that change that "this patch fixes it" So, there's something else I have to do to fix it? [16:44] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:45] if the changelog shows it applied to 2.6.29.2 then your good to go [16:46] Pig_Pen: I get this with 2.6.29.2: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13021 [16:46] or download the patch and apply to 2.6.29.1 after you run make mrproper on it and rebuild [16:46] flvr (n=flvr@host-193-125-92-108.real.kvidex.ru) left ##slackware. [16:47] wow, that does not look good [16:47] looks like that patch doesn't work with that version [16:48] i would rm -rf that whole source tree and reextract [16:48] I installed the packages from 12.2 I'm getting the same error [16:48] build without patching it first to test [16:48] keep an eye out for a new patch, or have a go at fixing it yourself, or stick with an older kernel [16:48] i would not use that feature until either they fix it or you find the solution [16:48] Ilie: what else did you do to that system? [16:48] Ilie: at this point, i personally consider your system tainted [16:49] ok nullboy , I guess I could live without wireless [16:49] Ilie, so what does 'ls /var/log/packages/pygtk*' show now? [16:49] Ilie: what wifi card do you have? [16:49] broadcom [16:49] how does wireless come into play here? [16:49] fevel (n=fevel@189.16.239.23) left irc: [16:49] wicd [16:49] god. [16:49] b43-phy0: Broadcom 4311 WLAN found [16:49] Ilie: if wifi failed something else can too [16:49] from dmesg [16:49] wicd is failing to start cause of pygtk error [16:49] the proper thing is to fix your system [16:49] not abandon wifi [16:49] Ilie, so what does 'ls /var/log/packages/pygtk*' show now? [16:49] b43-phy0: Radio hardware status changed to DISABLED [16:49] you don't need wicd to setup wifi [16:50] i second Lord_Khelben's opinion [16:50] /var/log/packages/pygtk-2.12.1-i486-2 [16:50] I change networks a lot it would have been very nice to have some kind of gui tool [16:50] Ilie, and you get the exact same error? [16:50] dive /var/log/packages/pygtk-2.12.1-i486-2 [16:51] Ilie, try wifi-radar [16:51] yeap [16:51] wpa_supplicant.conf is more than capable of automatically selecting the network you are closest to and/or has the best signal. all of that can be tuned too. [16:51] wifi-radar doesn't work too [16:51] Ilie, all I can suggest is that somewhere you still have a wrong pygtk version installed [16:52] its a python app, your python situation must be a mess [16:52] i work on many different networks that use all kinds of security mechanisms and wpa_supplicant is more than up to the task [16:52] I guess I installed pygtk from source and now I have some sort of conflict ... [16:52] Ilie, you can use wicd-curses in a term btw, but you would be better off fixing the problem [16:52] thanks for the tip nullboy , I'll check out wpa_supplicant [16:52] i suggest you get the wifi working manually before you screw with gui tools [16:52] Ilie, if you still have the source, run 'make uninstall' in it [16:53] what's weird, is that it worked for a period and than it complained about some old firmware [16:53] I removed wicd, and when reinstalled it again, and it doesn't work now [16:53] there is no point is messing with gui tools if you are having "raido disabled" notices and firmware warnings. [16:53] I usually delete the directory after an ./configure, make , make install [16:53] whoa whoa. [16:53] did you just run make install on pygtk? or did you use DESTDIR so you could make package with makepkg? [16:53] how much crap have you installed using ./configure && make && make install? [16:54] hmm ... a few .. packages [16:54] ...now the full story comes out... [16:54] :) [16:54] Ilie, source != packages [16:54] like i said....tainted. [16:54] yep [16:54] I know dive, I know [16:54] tainted like a NYC hooker [16:54] you have a royal mess on your hands now have fun [16:54] Does any one here use slapt-get with slackware-current, and found "incomplete download" errors. [16:54] are you sure you installed it from source ? [16:54] might be quicker and cleaner to reinstall sw [16:55] yes [16:55] wipe it and reinstall [16:55] use the source luke!!!! [16:55] Shingoshi: slapt-get is not part of the distribution and thus is not supported in here, at least not in any official way [16:55] I don't want to reinstall, this is not windows or ubuntu [16:55] you package was named pygtk-2.14.0-i486-1 which is quiet similar to the -current package name [16:55] thanks for the tips guys [16:55] Ok. Is anyone seeing errors from "incomplete download"? [16:56] no [16:56] I will solve the problem somehow :) , I'm also confident that maybe in the future I'll learn more about slackware packages and contribute with some packages made by myself (imagine that) [16:56] When was the last time you updated your system? [16:56] Shingoshi: yesterday [16:56] and i use rsync.... [16:56] Ilie: if you installed the correct pygtk package you shouldn't get the same error [16:56] can you run it and pastebin it again ? [16:56] sure [16:56] Ilie, next to time you feel the need to install from source, consider making a package instead - there are various tools available like slackbuilds, makepkg, src2pkg... [16:57] http://pastebin.com/d3f29a68c [16:57] what about some config left behind in /etc causing problem?> [16:57] I saw a video presentation on youtube about slackware packages , but it's from 2005 [16:57] cairo! [16:58] I installed cairo too [16:58] Ilie, that's a different erro [16:58] Ilie: start here http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [16:58] Ilie: this is not the same error [16:58] thanks nullboy [16:58] now it is cairo [16:58] atk, gtk, cairo, pango, python, gygtk [16:58] Action: Ilie I'm screwed [16:58] Ilie: http://slackbuilds.org/template.SlackBuild [16:58] I have pycairo in pkgtool [16:59] naw, nothing a wipe and clean install wont fix [16:59] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:59] witz_____ (n=witz@adsl-69-227-214-90.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:59] like I've said Pig_Pen , this is not windows or ubuntu :) [16:59] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-151-93-65.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:59] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:59] umm [17:00] Ilie: you can manually figure out where you have sprayed files across your system or you can reinstall [17:00] Ilie, ok there's one way you could fix this without reinstalling the whole system, but that will not undo all the sources you've installed manually - edit /etc/slackpkg/mirrors and uncomment a 12.2 mirror near you, then run 'slackpkg update' and 'slackpkg upgrade-all' [17:00] i'm curios while iv'e been on here iv'e noticed some ppl come on asking for help with ubunut [17:00] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) joined ##slackware. [17:00] i been using Slackware for years, do a clean install and dont screw it up, come back in here and i am sure there are a few people that will help you get your wifi working [17:00] why don't they go to #ubuntu? [17:00] slackpkg reinstall slackware [17:00] toastytoast: http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/detector.jpg [17:01] thanks for the tips [17:01] hmmmmm i see [17:01] ha ha [17:01] stillbor1 (n=blow_my_@MYDCCCXIII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [17:01] it works ... I installed all the packages from 12.2 [17:01] toastytoast: because they cant get an answer with the abudance of questions being asked that simple google-fu would answer [17:01] nullboy, lol nice one [17:02] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-136.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:02] Loading...Attempting to connect tray to daemon...Success.Done. [17:02] thanks again for your time [17:02] goodboy leroy, you just dodged a bullet [17:03] :) [17:03] its weird that so many -current packages were installed without you wanting it [17:03] now you need to fix your broadcom issues [17:03] you must have tried something to do exactly that [17:04] not enough rtfm [17:05] it's weird, it complained about old firmware, I installed some packages from the slackware's package browser site , I hope It won't complain again [17:05] Pig_Pen: feeling hostile today? :P [17:05] rg31 (n=deckard@62.32.147.60) joined ##slackware. [17:05] no, just aware [17:05] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:06] did i appear hostile? [17:06] no [17:06] but i sure did [17:06] not more than me, or nullboy or anyone else :) [17:06] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-68-136.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [17:06] haha [17:07] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:07] always remember "fools rush in where angels fear to tread" -somebody who was careful [17:07] jello [17:07] hehe [17:07] "wise men say, 'only fools rush in', but i can't help falling..." --the king [17:08] rg32 (n=deckard@83.231.89.143) joined ##slackware. [17:08] oh, that f in rtfm is friendly :D [17:08] one interpretation is friendly :) [17:09] read the fine manual? [17:09] lol [17:09] read the fancy manual! [17:09] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:10] if you read it in konqueror or vim yeah, if you just do man foo not very fancy :) [17:10] ok, the lights are are but nobody's home for a little while, shower time & supper [17:11] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:11] oops i need to go too. time to sleep :( [17:11] heh thought he was going to say, "the lights are on, but nobody's upstairs" [17:11] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:12] good night Lord_Khelben [17:12] thank you Ilie [17:13] oh i got11 installed on my toshiba and i have it upgraded to 12.0 [17:13] Lord_Khelben (n=null@79.103.238.98) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [17:13] i messed up the first time had to restart this morning [17:13] rg32 (n=deckard@83.231.89.143) left irc: "Leaving." [17:15] stillborn (n=blow_my_@KMMMCCXLVIII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:16] any else have eduke32 running? [17:17] i got LAN play working now, even between linux and windows systems. i wonder if it works over the internet ;) [17:17] nope nullboy :( [17:17] linky? [17:17] it's at SBo [17:17] but you need the original Duke 3D .grp file [17:18] argh... which i don't hvae [17:18] you cna use the free version of it for now though [17:18] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.39) left irc: [17:18] but for all the original stuff you need the original grp [17:19] i did the hi res pack and xxx addon too :x [17:19] now the strippers are neeekiiddd [17:19] HD strippers? [17:20] Duke Nukem Hi-RES package! [17:20] it makes it so much nicer [17:20] Ah, I remember that game. Still have it around here somewhere. [17:20] Action: frullet remembers the fond days of PS1 and duke :) [17:20] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.156.157) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:21] frullet: yes, the good ol days. :) [17:22] I remember playing games on my Commodore 64. :) [17:22] oh hey what do you think of my case? [17:22] http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq68/xerodill/100_0071.jpg?t=1240867317 [17:22] hahaha [17:22] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:23] now the inside [17:23] http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq68/xerodill/100_0066.jpg?t=1240867244 [17:23] i see a roll of electrical tape in there...wtf are you doing! [17:23] every duke nukem game needs nekkid strippers [17:23] i liek elictrical tape [17:24] lol [17:24] lol [17:24] dude, that case looks old ^^ [17:24] it is old back qwhen poinex elite was the best machine you could get [17:25] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [17:25] it came with a hardrive that had windows 95 on it [17:26] but i like it none the less [17:26] lol [17:26] t [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] [17:27] whhops [17:27] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:31] I remember trashing a couple older computers I had before linux, I regret it all the time. Keep thinking of the cool stuff I could have done with parts. They were working fine and all. [17:31] toastytoast : i'm not quite sure what kind of reaction you're looking for. it's a white box case. as crappy as every other white box case. [17:31] d4vidc (i=0@dynamic-66-243-245-170.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [17:31] greymaus (n=greymaus@86.46.249.68) left irc: Client Quit [17:32] Hey ananke. How's it going? [17:32] greymaus (n=greymaus@86.46.249.68) joined ##slackware. [17:32] firebird619 : just great. i'm spending a week near washington d.c., attending jboss training [17:32] hmm, company being bought out, always an interesting experience [17:32] the reaction i was looking for is jsut that it is one reason why i put all of my hardware in it becase ppl would be like wtf lol then when it turned on it would be like oh wow [17:32] hi, "nmap -sL 192.168.1.*" returns "not scanned" for all 256 IP's.. when in fact I know that there are various machines on the local network, what could be going wrong here? [17:32] greymaus (n=greymaus@86.46.249.68) left irc: Client Quit [17:33] and plus it is not liek anyopther white box case it is a pionex elite case with a penguin sticcker on it [17:33] man, my apartment neighbor...some chick that i guess knows him just walks up to the place and knocks on his door it went something like this: girl "hiii" him "oh hi $name" girl "i was just in the area and thought i'd come by an see if you were ok" him "uuhh, yeah i'm fine" girl "i got a new router(as she walks into his apartment" him "uuhh oh yeah?" [17:33] lol. toastytoast, well, that makes it one of a kind. :P [17:33] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.245) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:33] talk about a strange booty call [17:34] toastytoast : really, it's very much like every other white box case. it's ugly, hard to work with, with poor air flow, high noise, and so on [17:34] nullboy: wtf lol [17:34] greymaus (n=greymaus@86.46.249.68) joined ##slackware. [17:34] itsjustme (n=lucas@201.34.91.74) joined ##slackware. [17:35] witz: i wish i had some randomly lady friends come to my apartment, exclaim that they just bought a new router and proceed to walk right in [17:35] was my question somehow stupid? :( [17:35] actually one reason i put the whole in the top is to improve airflow plus it is pretty easy to work the cover comes off easily and such [17:35] Ficthe: did someone say it was stupid? [17:35] nullboy: Riight. Dream on. [17:35] ;) [17:36] and also it did have slightly better airflow back when it was first made too [17:36] lol [17:36] nullboy, no, lack of answer gave me the feeling it might had been [17:36] poinex elites were gamine machines [17:36] Ficthe: try -PN -sL [17:36] Ficthe, -sL = list targets to scan [17:36] back in the day [17:36] trentgbs (n=trentgbs@c-68-49-217-62.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] Ficthe, aka they don't actually get scanned but it shows which targets would be if you did scan them (makes sense?) [17:38] dive, I'm basically trying to just get the name of all the machines on the network [17:38] ah well afaik it will look in /etc/hosts for those names [17:38] Ficthe: did you come in here with some "fruity" nick and on mibbit a few days ago? [17:38] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:38] nullboy, no [17:38] ok [17:38] Ilie (i=1000@93.112.67.27) left irc: "Leaving" [17:39] alice_ (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:39] Ficthe : for i in {1..255}; do host 192.168.1.$i; done [17:40] host? [17:40] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [17:40] host. [17:40] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:40] Ficthe : of course, that works only if host is able to perform a lookup. considering it's an ip range reserved for internal networks, i can imagine you have that information stored elsewhere already [17:40] "Host 255.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)" - that was odd [17:40] Ficthe: do you have proper DNS on this network? [17:40] looks like you don't [17:40] yes, that's probably it. [17:40] SuN (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [17:41] TheTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:41] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] Ficthe : it's not odd. it's very much an expected answer. [17:41] bojevnik_ (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [17:41] my border router runs dnsmasq which is easy to setup and will handle this for you [17:41] bojevnik_ (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:42] Ekc (n=iskar@79-100-12-217.btc-net.bg) left irc: "Leaving" [17:42] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] it was odd to me :D anyway, in /etc/hosts I've: just this: 127.0.0.1 localhost \n 127.0.0.1 sea -- to my it looks okay [17:42] Ficthe: this is not the job of the local hosts file though [17:42] Ficthe : and nobody said it doesn't look ok [17:43] what you are looking for is a network wide resolver. the hosts file can e used but that is not the best way to do it [17:43] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:43] Ficthe: is this a corporate network or a home network? [17:43] home [17:44] what border router are you using? [17:44] most of them should be able to handle this type of role [17:44] sorry, I'm not sure what 'border' router is :x [17:44] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [17:44] just read it and think about it... [17:45] do you have a fisher-price linkydinky router or an actual linux box? [17:45] linksys wrt54gl [17:46] default firmware for now [17:47] as long as your hosts are setup to send a hostname with their DHCP request, the default firmware should be allowing you to resolve [17:47] if you aren't using dhcp you will need to add static entries [17:48] iirc, this is possible on the stock firmwares [17:51] v4nelle (n=van@adsl46-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:51] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [17:52] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:52] Ficthe: i'm looking at a stock wrt54g v3.1 right now and this is actually not possible, sorry about that [17:53] hm, okay. I did nmap -sP 192.168.1.1/24 and it at least gives me the address of the machines that are up-- that's actually good enough for my purposes for now [17:53] nullboy: http://slackadelic.com/~ash/eeepc-wifi-mod/ [17:53] :D [17:53] thanks though -- I'll try to dive into this problem when I install openwrt on the router [17:53] Ficthe: openwrt will handle it perfectly [17:54] acidchi|d: excuse me sir, is that an antenna sticking up out of your laptop or are you just happy to see me? [17:54] hehehe :D [17:54] itsjustme (n=lucas@201.34.91.74) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:54] happy to see you ;) [17:54] lol [17:56] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:56] that's an antenna and a half that is [17:56] acidchi|d, what's the range of that thing? [17:56] 1.21 gigaparsecs [17:57] . [17:57] lol [17:57] i dunno yet, it wont boot in to linux any more [17:57] think i borked it by force shutdown, gonna boot in to a live distro and see whats going on [17:57] harddrive is detected etc. [17:57] so i'm not to worried :P [17:59] are the partitions & filesystems detected too? [17:59] mmm shows the two parts... [17:59] but... it gives me 01010101 on boot loader. [17:59] =P [17:59] acidchi|d: 01 invalid disk command [18:00] ok? [18:00] so what does that mean? [18:00] i have no fscking clue [18:00] try a slax usb thumbdrive boot, it will automatically mount everything mountable [18:01] i'm downloading something atm :-) [18:01] Saving to: `archlinux-2009.02-2-ftp-i686.img' [18:01] xD [18:01] nullboy: see the changes for wireless-tools? [18:01] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [18:02] http://dev.slackware.it/changelogs/view.php?q=current/1240857302 [18:02] some old woman gave me a kingsize rolling paper holder today [18:02] haha [18:02] chopp: schaweet [18:03] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:03] and followed it by "mommy loves you!" [18:03] :| [18:03] it says Amsterdam on it, its really rather nice =P [18:03] alienBOB: thanks Sir! [18:04] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.88.254) joined ##slackware. [18:04] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.35.177) joined ##slackware. [18:06] crap I woke up to no phone today. My voip provider never e-mailed me when the balance dropped below 10.00 like they were supposed to. :( [18:10] eddie_greey (n=eddie@189.114.194.236.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. 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[18:15] you can just modify inittab to use 'su - username -c startx' [18:15] alienBOB, glad you got that in ;-) [18:15] dive: i'm stoked too, and mostly because they added the new wpa_supplicant [18:15] that brings the client side wifi up to speed [18:15] yeah it seems good [18:16] I'm in runlevel 4, all I want is to press the start and find myself after 20 seconds in xfce desktop :) [18:16] now if 2.6.30 sorts out the AP mode stuff it will be awesome [18:16] gonna boot up mr -current and see if it's on mirror yet [18:16] dive: yeah it's there [18:16] at least from osuosl [18:16] nullboy, yeah that is a pain - I'm also using ath5k.. [18:18] kdm will auto logon users, look in kde's control center down at the bottom of the tree in System Administration > Login Manager > Convenience tab [18:18] thanks Pig_Pen , I already knew how to do it in kde, I'm curios how I can do it in xfce [18:19] don't you guys use autologin ? [18:19] no [18:19] sh4d3sl4y3r_ (n=sh4d3sl4@122.162.42.234) joined ##slackware. [18:19] kdm will get xfce too just make xfce your default desktop [18:20] sh4d3sl4y3r_ (n=sh4d3sl4@122.162.42.234) left irc: "Leaving" [18:20] I have the same function in gdm, I know I can choose a session, ok, thanks for the tips [18:20] that's horribly insecure. in fact, my system uses / encryption so you have to know the encryption passphrase during boot as well as a login password after the system comes up [18:20] but it is a laptop [18:21] hey guys [18:21] I own a laptop too, but I'm usually more than 14 hours a day in front of my computer :) [18:21] me too [18:21] probably more [18:21] how install 3g internet in slackware [18:22] i try recompile kernel with driver but not work [18:22] so it gets kind of boring to type my password and usually don't let anybody touch my woman and computer :) [18:22] what if your laptop gets stolen? [18:22] then I'll still have the woman :) [18:23] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.88.254) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:23] frullet (n=Bob@124-171-59-12.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:23] but her nudie pics will be plastered all over the net. :P [18:23] :)) lol chopp , nee, I keep them in my mind [18:23] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@67-54-166-220.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] i've never had a girlfriend who was down for pics [18:24] acidchild (i=ash@208.92.232.20) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:24] Nick change: acidchi|d -> acidchild [18:24] acidchild (n=ash@brouter.sevenl.net) left irc: Killed by ballard.freenode.net (Nick collision) [18:24] acidchild (n=ash@brouter.sevenl.net) joined ##slackware. [18:24] acidchil1 (i=ash@dubstep.7a69.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:24] oh I miss the good old days. [18:25] i had another female + firearms dream [18:25] very strange indeed [18:25] lol no way! [18:25] why the hell are women showing up in my dreams with guns? [18:25] giuppy (n=giuppy@host24-53-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Operation timed out [18:26] you want her no matter what calibre she packs. [18:26] lol [18:26] :) [18:26] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-64-12.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:27] Strykar (i=wakka@gateway/tor/x-d3d0679e13f50bc2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:27] get the heck in that store and stick your gun in her mid section. [18:27] seriously [18:27] her breasts look like two atom bombs about to drop [18:28] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:29] Action: Ilie it's getting hot in here or it's just me ? [18:29] Pig_Pen: what do you call the hair between those breasts? [18:29] Ilie, you getting hot thinking about nullboy's dreams? [18:30] Action: dive ducks [18:30] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Success [18:30] linux_probe (n=chris@cpe-75-187-154-247.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:31] sitwon (n=adam@pool-173-79-75-6.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:32] never seen any hair [18:32] her snatch? [18:32] oops [18:32] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) left irc: "BR" [18:33] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.35.177) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:35] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.35.177) joined ##slackware. [18:37] us34 (n=us34@c83-254-191-151.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: "Leaving" [18:37] greymaus1 (n=greymaus@86-46-193-23-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-169-170.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:38] Heya,folks..How's everyone? [18:39] Hey MLanden. I'm doing great. How are you? [18:39] Google docs thinks I misspelled "Electroconvulsive" When a quick search shows it's correct. ... [18:39] Doin' good for the evening,firebird619 thanks [18:40] :) [18:40] Action: Ilie going to sleep, good night guys [18:40] Ilie (i=1000@93.112.67.27) left irc: "Leaving" [18:40] good night Ilie [18:40] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-185.net-81-220-254.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:42] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@89.180.215.11) joined ##slackware. [18:46] ivan8013_ (n=ivan8013@190.148.35.177) joined ##slackware. [18:48] Floops (n=baihu@ow.n.info.tm) joined ##slackware. [18:49] frullet (n=Bob@124-171-59-12.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [18:49] Floops (n=baihu@ow.n.info.tm) left irc: SendQ exceeded [18:51] i'm not getting subtitles when I run mplayer from the console but if I use smplayer they work anyone have any idea why ? [18:52] copy any truetype font as ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf [18:53] Glegnar (n=glegnar@host86-164-210-177.range86-164.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:53] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-68-136.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:54] greymaus (n=greymaus@86.46.249.68) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:54] RickyFloW (n=fl0w@190.166.108.192) joined ##slackware. [18:54] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.202.134) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:54] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [18:55] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [18:59] Pig_Pen: didnt work... [18:59] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-119-51.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:59] darn! [19:00] did you kill and restart mplayer? [19:00] Pig_Pen: I quit and restarted yes [19:00] hey guys [19:00] mogunus (n=user@173.9.7.10) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:00] launch it and right click on it and select preferences and look at the font tab [19:00] gmplayer [19:00] mogunus (n=user@173.9.7.10) joined ##slackware. [19:00] i have a problem install mplayer in slackware 12.2 [19:00] did you build it with --enable-gui ? [19:01] eddie_grey, are you using the slackbuild script for SBo? [19:01] s/for/from [19:02] no [19:02] im using slakpkg [19:02] also run mplayer -sub /path/to/font.ttf [19:03] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/mplayer [19:03] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.35.177) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:03] read and install all the deps first [19:03] ok [19:03] thanks [19:03] Pig_Pen: looking at subtitles what am I supposed to do ? [19:03] Pig_Pen: never mind [19:04] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/mplayer-codecs-all [19:04] not sure, i never done it that way before, i just ran mplayer --help to see what it will let me do with it, you need to fine tune that option [19:04] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [19:05] Pig_Pen, man page is better ;) [19:06] always "D [19:06] :D [19:06] smiley fail [19:06] doh! [19:07] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:07] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [19:08] darmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:09] Pig_Pen: thats just a flounder smiley right ;) haha both eyes on one side. [19:09] yeah [19:10] when i build mplayer i use --enable-gui --codecsdir=/usr/lib/codecs [19:10] Pig_Pen: still not working [19:12] hmm, i dont think i have any movies that include subtitles [19:12] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:15] also i built the latest snapshot, not that rc, that latest rc is old [19:15] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] i sometimes wonder if mplayer will be in perpetual rc mode never making it to a 1.0 release [19:17] troys (n=troys@68.165.100.2) joined ##slackware. [19:17] you could try kmplayer if you have kde installed, it is a decent front end [19:18] frullet (n=Bob@124-171-59-12.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [19:18] eddie_grey (n=eddie@189.114.194.236.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: " work" [19:18] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:19] _dTd_ (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[19:47] but not bourne again [19:48] I'm trying to set up my rackserver (which runs 12.2) with Xen, was curious if anywone here's done it, had any tips / issues to point out? [19:48] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [19:48] neuro_sys (n=neurosys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) joined ##slackware. [19:49] bhodgins: give me the rackserver and I'll do it :D [19:50] LOL [19:51] Physicly? sure! Its an 8U with 8 SCSI disks and three full sized hotswap ps's. [19:51] think you can carry it? [19:51] pics or its a spice rack. [19:51] haha [19:51] even better :) [19:51] haha [19:51] well, the rest are 4 u but those run freenas [19:51] oh yes chopp I'm so going to make a mode that is a spice rack now. [19:52] MLanden1 (n=mello@pool-141-152-170-19.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:52] I wish my desktop was working, I'd experiment with this more but I have to with my laotop, so... [19:52] MLanden1 (n=mello@pool-141-152-170-19.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [19:52] I'm not too worried about it [19:53] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-169-170.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:53] yeah my friends like, hey, so when are we going to be hosting slices? every day -.- [19:53] the graphics card Radeon HD 4670 I'm using is identified as Audio device and loaded with snd-hda-intel module, while the actual onboard audio device is also using the snd-hda-intel module. The result is the sound is not working.. How am I supposed to tell the gaddamn pc that Ati Radeon is not an Audio card? [19:53] l [19:53] http://pastebin.ca/1405531 [19:53] my slackware fun is going to be limited now since I'm going to start a new project(not with computers). [19:54] neuro_sys: sure its not ati chipset? [19:54] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) left irc: "leaving" [19:54] my friend uses a 4650 [19:55] had to use ati fglrx 8.8 [19:55] MLanden1 (n=mello@pool-141-152-170-19.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:55] OH! [19:55] MLanden1 (n=mello@pool-141-152-170-19.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [19:55] you have the same thing my friend had with his. The reason why it detects it as an audo card is because it has hdmi I think [19:56] which accoring to toastytoast has audio [19:56] surely, the Radeon is an ati chipset. [19:56] he just put the driver in the blacklist [19:56] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-170-19.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:57] OUCH...LOL...outta limbo [19:57] lol putting the ati driver in the blacklist then what driver will he use for video? [19:57] no [19:57] put the one it uses for audio [19:57] the one it uses for audio is also being used by the actual audio device? [19:58] I mean I guess I need that driver in any case. [19:58] for some reason alsaconf doesnt fix it without it being blacklisted or something [19:58] though I'm not sure if it's snd-hda-intel module which is the proper one for the audio card. [19:58] toastytoast can probably tell exactly what he did [19:58] luckily I had a sound blaster card to solve that problem, my onboard audio was the same driver as the ati hdmi driver, it took me a while to figure that one out [19:58] Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) joined ##slackware. [19:59] eviljames (n=james@154.5.76.16) left irc: "headed home, hooray for dead drives." [19:59] itsjustme (n=lucas@201-34-92-45.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [19:59] I had to blacklist snd-hda-intel [20:00] uh, and you said goodbye to the onboard audio chip [20:00] yep [20:00] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-170-19.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [20:00] dood! i did it [20:00] crap I burned my mouth [20:00] chopp: the dreams will stop now [20:00] with mashed potatoes [20:01] nullboy: what did you do? [20:01] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:01] he ran an exciting command... [20:01] sorry but ls is not that exciting. [20:01] finger root! [20:01] chopp: i just straight up asked that girl if she had a boyfriend, she blushed hardcore and said no so i asked her out and she was speechless, just said i don't know. so i said here's my card [20:01] hahaha [20:01] nice [20:02] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:02] superGear (i=1000@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:02] she couldn't even answer me lol [20:02] lol! its about friggin time nullboy [20:02] haha [20:02] \o/ [20:02] Action: lf4 memo to self carry cards around to hand out to girls. ;) [20:02] she totaly like syou [20:02] lf4: yeah makes it easy [20:02] i bet she was fat.. [20:02] nah not fat at all [20:02] uh huh ;) [20:02] Unfortunately, bhodgins is doomed [20:02] havent had a gf for two years, ah well [20:02] nullboy: hey awsome, good for you. She will call. :) [20:03] your not missing much bhodgins. [20:03] bhodgins: yeah same here, i have to start it up again some how right? ;) [20:03] get married, its like having a girl friend that wont go away :D [20:03] lol [20:03] I'm a programmer! its hard! [20:03] nullboy, pimpin aint easy [20:03] Hehe vengeance mail! http://www.vertical-visions.com/_temp/postagepaid/index2.html [20:03] Pig_Pen: true [20:03] it's literally been years since i have done something like that. [20:03] nice little adrenaline rush [20:03] even worse.. I wrote my own homebrew kernel a month ago. [20:03] nullboy: for sure don't tell her about the dreams though. :P [20:04] chopp: yeah that's weird [20:04] grazymax (n=grazymax@host39-155-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [20:04] lol [20:04] lol [20:04] lol [20:04] go for it bro ;) [20:04] yeah.. [20:04] tell her about ... what she likes to talk about? [20:04] idk [20:04] grazymax (n=grazymax@host250-207-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:04] nah [20:05] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:05] she seems pretty cool but i was a little worried about her not being able to answer me [20:05] Bring a gigantic boombox on your shoulders on yuour first date playing War Bees [20:05] i think i just totally caught her off guard [20:05] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:05] nullboy: that can be good or bad [20:06] all i know is that if a girl asked me out and gave me a card it would make my day [20:06] of course >.> [20:06] Xen has said adding file changes for about.. an hoyur now [20:06] nullboy: where do you live? [20:06] lf4: SoCal [20:06] nullboy: she just sounds really shy, she will come around. [20:06] aww she wikes him [20:06] humm... don't know many people there anymore lol its been 18 years. [20:06] chopp: yeah, and if she doesn't call i'll go back and do it again damnit [20:06] you are a guy, rite? [20:07] yeah [20:07] lol [20:07] lol good for you nullboy keep at it :D [20:07] nullboy: thats the attitude. :) [20:07] Depends on when you ask him/her. Sometimes he's Nullgirl. [20:07] Nick change: nullboy -> nullgirl [20:07] hahaha [20:07] hai guyz [20:07] lmao [20:07] hahah [20:07] nullboy, you need to hit me up if you get a date lol [20:07] now you just need nullit [20:07] wtf [20:07] Nick change: nullgirl -> nullboy [20:07] beat it tramp [20:07] lol [20:08] Now go scissor! [20:08] Show me your high beams! [20:08] lol jk [20:08] dude i'm high off that rush [20:08] wtf [20:08] superGear (i=supergea@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] since the chick i'm tryin to get with lives in woodland hills lol [20:08] Necos: oh man [20:08] lol [20:08] nullboy: the good kind of high. [20:08] i know a lot of people in reseda [20:08] they're not the same womn, i assure ya lol [20:08] yeah [20:09] plus, this went down in ventura anyway [20:09] slaxkware has no username/password mode for alzheimer patients? [20:09] lol word [20:09] slackware* [20:09] girls in reseda eh? [20:09] bhodgins: you can cheat by mucking up inittab with an su - username -c startx [20:09] chevy 327 small block [20:09] Necos: yeah lots [20:09] jaja [20:09] haha* [20:09] oops lol [20:10] I was just remembering what uncyclopedia [20:10] ya know, i think you need to ummmm... pass 'em my number, since i'll be back at CSUN ;) [20:10] size 72 fonts so slackwares users can read it [20:10] hehe [20:10] ... [20:10] ^^v [20:11] I thought it was quite funny [20:11] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:11] hes like, debian hates slackware because its sofware isnt as old as its target audience.. [20:11] greetings and salutations [20:11] what age range nullboy? lol [20:11] the slackware uncyclopeida entry is hilarious [20:11] Necos: this girl i just talked to? [20:11] ino rite [20:11] no, the girls in reseda =p [20:11] did you see cookie? its like, Megaman approves of this article [20:12] Necos: oh lots of mid 20's [20:12] hey andarius [20:12] salutations chopp [20:12] perfect! [20:12] Necos: i know more people there than where i live in ventura too [20:12] lol [20:12] in fact i know absolutely no one here [20:12] nullboy, you and i are gonna be best friends! [20:13] hehe [20:13] YAY [20:13] no spooning though [20:13] scissoring is ok, though [20:13] grazymax (n=grazymax@host250-207-dynamic.116-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:14] I want to make an uncyclopedia entry. [20:14] so bad [20:15] nullboy: those dreams are probably really about the bar trash nextdoor, you just replace her scary face with the hardware hottie. :P [20:15] hahahaha [20:15] ... [20:15] hahahaha [20:15] bhodgins, make one [20:15] thats when software becomes hardware, and your floppy disks become hard drives.. [20:16] nophis (n=amenophi@unaffiliated/nophis) left irc: "Leaving" [20:16] hehe [20:16] yeah edman, but I'm just like, what to write on.. [20:16] lol, real shit tho, we need to coordinate somethin nullboy [20:16] ^_^ [20:16] i'm out, later folks [20:16] floppy disks and hard drives [20:16] lol, Oscar wilde on hedgehogs: "Okay, WTF god." [20:17] I want a hedgehog. [20:17] I'll name it sonic, and put slackware on it [20:21] DoNoBaN (i=1000@77.208.28.97) joined ##slackware. [20:22] I feel like Zelda 1 when I beat the game. "Wait, I've been saving a princess this whole time!?" 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[20:25] Ah I know what to write about! toastytoasts topic because I'm so tired of it: wgetting the internet [20:26] Old_Fogie: Doing great. Thank you. [20:26] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:27] "IRC is a multiplayer for microsofts award winning notepad" [20:27] patch* [20:27] isnt word to word but just cranks me up [20:28] grazymax (n=grazymax@host68-153-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:28] omg! xen just moved [20:29] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [20:31] I do not like this. Zen is compiling everything in my kernel as a module. [20:31] X* [20:31] Why is that a problem? [20:32] I prefer small kernels.. [20:32] with only what I need [20:32] Dont need every module in existance. [20:32] seriously! wtf! its compiling ntfs... [20:32] if you want a small kernel without losing features and functionality then a module is better than embedded in the kernel image itself [20:33] bhodgins, I'd think if your box can handle an *additional* OS running on top if it, it should be able to handle a few things in the kernel no? [20:33] :) [20:33] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.97.73) joined ##slackware. [20:33] So they are supposed to make a kernel just for your system? [20:33] bhodgins: well your kernel is still small :) [20:33] yeah... [20:33] This is the first time Xen actualy got to building the kernel.. [20:34] it said it didnt find the kernel sources though. [20:35] My kernel's been building (make, that is) for a couple hours now. It's never went that slow. [20:35] heh [20:36] I'm on dual core so it isnt so bad, just on my laptop [20:36] I'm more worried that if it replaces the kernel that I'm running I will be.. upset [20:36] bhodgins: I'm on P4 3.2 GHz 1 GB Ram, so it's not a slow system by any means, not dual core though. :) [20:36] mines only 1.8 ghz [20:36] firebird619, that should be done under an hour tops in my book [20:36] with them spec's [20:36] Usually it's done and I've rebooted to the new kernel in about an hour. [20:37] my 8u is quad pentium 3 [20:37] not core [20:37] Old_Fogie: Yeah, I know, what's up with it. :P [20:37] 800 mhz or w/e I think [20:37] firebird619, some run away process ? maybe your ram farted? dunno. [20:37] lol [20:37] that would smell bad [20:37] all the junk thats been in there? [20:37] firebird619, you building with ccache? [20:38] all that pr0n? [20:38] lol. I'm not sure, it's still going, it's at drivers/usb right now. [20:38] I'm at drivers/input [20:38] Old_Fogie: ccache? [20:38] firebird619, tho there's a ton of tools to do it, I use htop to review what's going on [20:38] firebird619, if you have a ? there, then no you're not :) [20:38] Eddie_grey (n=eddie@189.101.233.2) joined ##slackware. [20:38] bhodgins: drivers/video now. At least it's still going. [20:38] Old_Fogie: No, probably not then. :) [20:39] firebird619, what takes an hour to build first time, is *way* less next time . [20:39] that's ccache [20:39] Old_Fogie: Ah, ok. [20:39] im on isdn [20:39] I dont need isdn! [20:39] >:G [20:39] many times, even going form 2.6.27.1 to 2.6.27.2 for example, is almost half, even with the version bump using ccache, assuming you didn't change the .config at all I find. [20:40] I've only rebuilt a kernel about 6-7 times now, it's never went this slow. I guess I won't have to worry about support for anything in the kernel, it's evidently building everything under the sun. [20:40] someone told me oracle has mysql now? [20:40] yeah every news outlet [20:40] I know what happened to sun but [20:40] sun has owned mysql for a while [20:41] It's at net/ipv4 now. How much longer? :P [20:41] I'm sure mysql will be fine [20:41] Least we know if they shut down mysql's community builds it will be a huge mistake [20:41] oracle already owned innodb [20:41] Hi Dominian. How's your day going? [20:41] firebird619: its going ok [20:41] I agree with Dominian , mysql makes money, it's fine I'd think [20:41] got a 4 yr old on a back talking spree. [20:41] oh no. [20:41] LOL [20:41] oh its all good [20:41] :) [20:41] I take away her TV and suddenly she's an angel [20:41] Dominian: there are child alignment tools for that [20:42] heh [20:42] haha [20:42] greetings andarius. How are you? [20:42] all I have to do is disconnect that coax cable on the back and she knows daddy ain't playin' [20:42] salutations firebird619, i am well. you ? [20:42] andarius: Aside from a kernel that's taken a couple hours so far, I'm doing well. [20:42] Dominian, you hit here with a coax cable? [20:42] her [20:42] a couple of hours? to build ? [20:43] Oh, I hope not. [20:43] andarius: yes [20:43] Old_Fogie: haha know [20:43] Old_Fogie: I just disconnect the coax [20:43] what on earth are you building it on ? [20:43] she's 4.. no idea how to hook it back up [20:43] Dominian, oh? you just 'disconnect' not take it off the tv and do otherwise :) [20:43] d4vidc: So, did it work? [20:43] I am supa fweek. I build kernel in 2 point one seven six nine seccond! [20:43] so she turns on the TV and gets "KSSSSHSSSSHSHSSHHSHS" [20:43] andarius: Linux slackware 2.6.29.1-rt6-smp #2 SMP PREEMPT RT Fri Apr 10 01:10:05 CDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [20:43] Dominian, thought that was todays "don't make me take my belt off" [20:43] lol [20:43] hehe [20:43] Or she gets grounded from playing Webkinz [20:44] OH NO! [20:44] firebird619: i have a p4c @ 3 ghz, takes like 20 minutes or less :| [20:44] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [20:44] Webkins! [20:44] Dominian: give her a few more years, she'll learn how to hook it back up. [20:44] actualy not sure how long, but not long [20:44] andarius: Yeah, it's strange, usually mine's built and I've rebooted to it in about an hour. [20:44] or I start bagging up her toys she leaves lying around and tell her "Come Sunday.. what happens?" "Trash comes on Monday..." "Right, what happens if you don't pick up these toys by Monday?" "Umm... they go in the trash?" "Good girl" [20:44] Dang it! [20:44] Oh wait, YAY, it just got done. [20:44] Theres no entry for webkinz on uncyclopedia [20:44] -j $number ftw ;) [20:45] Dominian, I use to tell mine, "all these toys you don't care about laying around, I'm gonna give them to poor kids who will appreciate them, and *you're* gonna go with me to do it" [20:45] distcc ftw [20:45] andarius: What would be a generally safe -j $number for my pc? [20:45] Old_Fogie: hahaha [20:45] Old_Fogie: nice [20:45] cores +1 or +2 [20:45] Dominian, fixed that I did :) [20:45] say a dual core +2 for -j 4 [20:45] Dominian, works for food too [20:45] firebird619: I do 5 on my core2duo. [20:45] i use -j 4 myself [20:46] Eat your peas and carrots now! [20:46] agentc0re: I don't have a dual core, just an HT 3.2 GHz and 1 GB ram. [20:46] firebird619: 4 should be fine [20:46] i'd do 3 or 4. [20:46] Old_Fogie: I have no problems getting her to eat vegetables [20:46] Ok, Thank you. [20:46] Old_Fogie: her favorite food: broccoli [20:46] its the weirdest damn thing [20:46] broccoli, seriously? [20:47] broccoli and sauce is the cats pajamas [20:47] Dominian, it's amazing, when they're babies, they'll eat anything mashed up. then .. a little while longer all they want is 'butter'. then .. you make the mistake of giving them chicken nuggets..and you'll never ever get them to eat veggies. [20:47] hes raising a mutant [20:47] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:47] heh [20:47] Old_Fogie: lol. :) [20:47] yup, that's the eating cycle of kids. [20:48] grazymax (n=grazymax@host68-153-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:48] they'll return to veggies when they're in their 30's and the Dr. tells them to start taking care of them selves, then I say *see I told you* [20:48] grazymax (n=grazymax@host116-157-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:48] Old_Fogie: still sounds like the eating cycle of me. I'm a picky eater, not a big fan of vegetables. I like that V8 V-Fusion stuff though, that's really good. [20:49] yeah, you gotta eat right. if you can cook it/eat in in 5 minutes or less, chances are it's not good for you. that's my motto. [20:49] Old_Fogie: :( [20:49] :P [20:50] Nothing I cook is done/ate in under 5 minutes, so I'm doing half okay? [20:51] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: "." [20:51] Old_Fogie: hehehe [20:52] Old_Fogie: My daughter still loves her mcnuggest.. but you put broccoli on her plate.. and she's hapy [20:52] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:53] My niece used to put ketchup on *everything*, somtimes the strangest stuff too that you'd never think of putting ketchup on. [20:53] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:53] firebird619: bananas? [20:54] I just mentioned bananas in aim! [20:54] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:54] Dominian: I think at one time, yes. :P [20:54] hmm, at net/bluetooth now [20:54] She's pretty much out-grown that phase now. [20:54] bhodgins: HAHA, mines done. :P [20:55] lol [20:55] Well, I'll be right back, gonna reboot to the new kernel and hope all goes well. [20:55] well mine has only been going on for about half an hour too [20:55] LnxSlck (i=1000@92.250.97.73) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:55] bhodgins: Well, if it takes as long as mine, go see a movie, have lunch, etc. you have a while to wait. :P [20:55] eh [20:55] I'm watching uncyclopedia stuff [20:56] let's home it doesn't though. [20:56] reading the article on IRC [20:56] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [20:56] anyway, brb. [20:56] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [20:56] netsplits are amazing [20:56] This is a place where the Internet is split in half. When you find it, just be patient while one of the Master of the Internet patches the Internet back together with duct tape. [20:57] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [20:57] Dominian, wow she's eat the brocolli that's good. let's keep the finger's crossed :) [20:58] tho, admittedly, when I eat broccolli, I put alot of stuff on it (which probably kills all benefits of it, heh :) [20:59] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [21:00] Yay, that worked well. I'm now on 2.6.29.2. :) [21:01] You have voided GNU warranty! ahhhhh! [21:01] haha [21:02] Old_Fogie: hehe [21:02] The RT patch didn't work this time though, so had to leave that out. [21:02] Well, I think it was the rt patch. [21:03] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] thegato (n=gato@cpe-69-202-137-82.twcny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:03] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:04] Dominian: I was thinking of setting up a mailserver on my pc; just something to get the mail from my isp and store it to a directory on the PC, and then have the mail client look there for the mail. Does your mailserver howto, for the most part, still work on 12.2? [21:04] oh yes [21:04] but I don't recommend following it to a T [21:04] I've made so many chagnes to my setup.. its rendered that tutorial obsolete [21:05] once I get my mail server moved to a new box.. I'm going to update tht tutorial [21:05] Dominian: Is there anything that I should for sure leave out for the setup I'm looking for? [21:05] Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) left ##slackware. [21:06] firebird619: probably mailscanner [21:06] I've gone away from Mailscanner in favor of maia mailguard [21:06] Mainly because that tutorial focuses on creating a server that will serve multiple virtual domains [21:07] Ok. Mine would just be serving my pc and one user (me). [21:07] maia mailguard makes that ten times easier for spam/virus management as it allows you to auth your users via IMAP.. taht way I only have to maintain one database for authentication.. and that's the postfix database [21:08] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-29-212.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [21:08] v4nelle (n=van@adsl46-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:08] Action: kitche does not use a mailserver per say [21:08] Does that howto setup up sending mail to, or do you just leave that to the mail client sending through the isp's mail servers? [21:08] I have my ssytem setup as a forwarder mainly anymore [21:08] Hey kitche. How's it going? [21:09] firebird619: You can always look at something like fetchmail to pull mail from the ISP and deliver locally if that's what you're wanting [21:09] is there way to build and install a single kernel module? [21:09] instead of compiling all. [21:10] depends onw hat module you speak of... [21:10] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.43.168) joined ##slackware. [21:10] grazymax (n=grazymax@host116-157-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Success [21:10] I use ssmtp for my mail client it just forwards all of my mail I send out though gmail [21:10] plenty of times I've rebuid kernel modules and installed them into the running kernel [21:10] hey somethings compiling [21:11] something called PCI/MSI support is needed for the graphics card driver that I'm trying to compile. [21:11] Dominian, have you tried building with a different compiler? :P [21:11] nachox: hehe nope [21:12] firebird619: you can ask nachox about my tutorial.. I believe he used it once upon a time [21:12] it takes a lot time rebuild all the stuff :/ [21:12] Dominian, good, it bitches [21:12] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.42.130) left irc: Connection timed out [21:12] nachox: ah.. just like a woman [21:12] lol [21:12] Action: Dominian would feel right at home [21:12] hahaha [21:13] evil but necessary [21:13] heh [21:16] Dominian, i dont need to tell you that that is not the case with solaris' right? ;) [21:17] sure sure [21:17] although Solaris is owned by Oracle now.. so its "tainted" [21:17] ;)hehe [21:19] hmm almost time for Marvel vs capcom 2 to come out for XBLA and PSN [21:20] Dominian, it will be owned by oracle once the government oks it, but i dont think they have the time to do that now, they are too busy with GM :P [21:20] hehe [21:21] all your vehicles are belong to the gov :o [21:22] Just imagine the deals GM will have as they phase out saturn and pontiac [21:22] well pontiac is phased out by 2010 not sure about saturn yet [21:22] whats going to happen to SPARC!? [21:23] Sparc is like the most amazing architchture on the planet [21:23] the spark was grounded :P [21:23] no, that's MIPS :P [21:23] bhodgins: umm probably nothing since it seems Oracle will get in the hardware business as well since Sun didn't even really build sparcs anyways they outsourced their hardware [21:28] really? [21:28] I never knew that [21:28] so, i used slapt-get to update my slax install...thats supported here, right? =D [21:28] Action: Dominian slaps acidkill [21:28] so, where do they get their 74 socket motherboard from? [21:28] Action: acidkill runs...fast [21:28] 72* [21:28] ohh, not fast enough =D [21:30] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-75-35-180-38.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:32] tecky (n=guest@cpe-67-240-26-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:32] mew :P [21:33] hey xen's install.sh is finished [21:33] Dominian: alives? [21:33] straterra: alives? [21:33] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [21:34] It's alives I tell ya! [21:34] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [21:36] except.. not [21:36] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-68-136.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [21:36] dive: you fail at being funny [21:36] indeed [21:36] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.89.52) joined ##slackware. [21:37] Action: dive is going back to sleep [21:37] sigh [21:45] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.9/2009040820]" [21:45] tecky: yo mamma so fat she sells shade at the beach ;) [21:45] lol [21:45] go void your warranty gnu [21:45] :)_ [21:45] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-235-80.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:46] gnubien, haha [21:46] yo mamma so big she uses telephone poles for a toothpick [21:46] bhodgins: yo mamma so fat she has her own graviational field ;) [21:46] LOL [21:46] does she sweat gravey? [21:47] yo mamma so fat she makes a red giant out of a white dwarf [21:47] Old_Fogie: not sure, i dont want to get that close :) [21:47] Yo mama so fat people jog around her for exercise [21:47] does she have more chins than a chinese phonebook? [21:47] Yo mama so fat she was floating in the ocean and spain claimed her for then new world [21:47] hehe [21:48] yo mamma so dumb she asked for 911 at the operator [21:48] Yo momma so fat, when she turns around, people give her a welcome back party! [21:48] hehe [21:49] Yo mama so fat God couldn't light Earth until she moved! [21:49] I heard she was so big, she had a wooden leg with a kickstand! [21:49] Yo mama so fat whenever she goes to the beach the tide comes in! [21:49] Yo mama so fat she shows up on radar [21:49] yeah, but I heard the kids rolled her back into the water to *save her* [21:50] Yo mama so fat I had to take a train and two buses just to get on the her good side! [21:50] yo mamma SO OLD, she uses slack to see her psf fonts on the screen! [21:50] bhodgins, hahah [21:50] Oh man that was hard to make up [21:50] ...LOL [21:50] I heard when she sits around the house, she "sits" *around* the house :) [21:51] Yo momma so fat when her beeper goes off, people thought she was backing up. [21:51] firebird619, hahah that's classic [21:51] Yo momma so fat even Bill Gates couldn't pay for her liposuction! [21:51] Yo mama so fat she sat on the beach and Greenpeace threw her in! [21:51] I heard she buys dresses from "Omar" the tent making company. [21:52] Yo mamma so blind, she uses speex to find the braille terminal! [21:52] Yo momma so fat when she gets on the scale it says, "To be continued." [21:52] firebird619, or "one at a time please" [21:52] sidmario (n=sidmario@189-18-173-67.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:52] that was a tad mean, but carry on [21:52] sorry to anyone here who is blind [21:52] Old_Fogie: lol [21:53] Yo momma so fat she has been declared a natural habitat for Condors. [21:53] bhodgins, they have sense of humor too [21:53] I heard she was declared a new contitent :) [21:53] Yo mama so fat when she fell over she rocked herself asleep trying to get up again. [21:53] I know, one of my friends is blind [21:54] edman007, hahah [21:54] Yo mamma so obsolelete, she uses ftape with 2.6! [21:54] :) [21:54] sidmario (n=sidmario@189-18-78-102.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:54] Yo momma so fat when she tripped over on 4th Ave, she landed on 12th. [21:55] Nick change: sidmario -> Guest28782 [21:55] Nick change: Guest28782 -> sidmario_ [21:55] Yo mama so fat when she wears one of those X jackets, helicopters try to land on her back! [21:55] firebird619, i'm further down the page than you [21:55] I heard she's needs apt-get to manage her diet [21:56] yo mamma so truncated, she has to fsck every time she listens to a word you say [21:56] she is on a see food diet... [21:56] edman007: which site you on. :) [21:57] you guys read this off a site... lame! [21:57] :) [21:57] http://www.ahajokes.com/ym01.html [21:58] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.210.88) joined ##slackware. [21:58] nah, man purely off top of my head here :) [21:58] Yo mama so fat her college graduation picture was an airial. [21:58] the lame part is pasting into the channel :) when we all have seen them or can look at the site [21:58] juice, ++ [21:58] but this is easy :P [21:58] i'm at the end of the page anyways [22:00] Oh shoot. I'm going to need grub for xen? [22:00] thats okay.. [22:01] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:02] eviljames (i=101@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [22:02] edman007: I had been looking at this one: http://home.comcast.net/~mykel1/fat.htm. :P [22:02] search google for append lilo for xen [22:03] Hey Pig_Pen. How are you? [22:03] groovy [22:03] anyways, for one not from a site -> Yo mama so dumb that if brains were gasoline she she wouldn't have enough to power an ants motorcycle around the outside of a dime [22:03] how are you doing firebird619 [22:03] Action: edman007 is reading http://mindyourownbusiness.com/yo_mamma.htm [22:03] Pig_Pen: Doing great. Thank you. [22:04] Pig_Pen: I seen on Office Depot's site today there were a couple logitech keyboard for $7.95 and $9.95. The $7.95 was just plain, no extra keys or anything. They were logitech. You still looking for a new one? [22:05] edman007: I've heard many yo momma jokes before, I just had to look at a site because I couldn't remember any. :P [22:05] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Xen#Alternative:_LILO ? [22:06] i will buy that one from newegg soon [22:06] Yo mama's belt size is the titled the "Equator" [22:06] Pig_Pen: That mechanical key one? [22:06] that was the one i was looking for [22:06] yeah [22:07] Yo momma so fat the National Weather Agency has to assign names to her farts! [22:07] haha [22:07] lol [22:08] Yo momma so fat she was zoned for commercial development. [22:08] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.77.72.182) joined ##slackware. [22:08] bwonder how easy it is to set up an initrd with grub, shouldnt be too hard, right? [22:08] cause my laptop has encrypted lvm [22:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2gFlha2kPs yo mamma [22:10] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [22:11] Pig_Pen: lol [22:11] grub handles initrd just fine bhodgins [22:11] there should be some examples in the config file [22:12] I figured, but I'm looking for what I need to put in menu.lst [22:12] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:12] you know there is a way to get lilo to handle xen with an append line [22:12] I figure dits just initrd but [22:12] hmm., [22:12] so maybe I should do that [22:13] after all, I'm just testing [22:13] i posted a link to a gentoo wiki a while ago [22:13] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Xen#Alternative:_LILO [22:15] mogunus (n=user@173.9.7.10) joined ##slackware. [22:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga_u1Fgf1ao robotchicken starwars yo mamma fight [22:16] in Soviet Russia Yo mamma jokes tell you [22:16] Action: toastytoast shrugs [22:17] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:17] tecky (n=guest@cpe-67-240-26-1.nycap.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [22:17] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:18] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.110.173) joined ##slackware. [22:19] how come root=/dev/ram0 [22:20] bhodgins, that is the initrd [22:20] oh I see [22:20] you cant just specify initrd? [22:20] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: [22:21] any good ipod software for kde? [22:22] just mount it... [22:22] its generic usb [22:22] mass storage [22:22] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:23] ? [22:23] just drag and drop music? [22:23] pretty much... [22:23] Pig_Pen: I'd kind of like to get this keyboard, but tbh, I don't really need another one. :P http://tinyurl.com/deg4dv [22:23] songbird has ipod features I believe [22:24] bhodgins: Yes, it does. [22:24] songbird open source? [22:24] skibur: yes [22:24] its very well made too [22:24] www.songbirdnest.com [22:24] I'll give it a wack [22:24] thanks [22:24] It destroys amarok [22:24] skibur: Is it an ipod touch? [22:24] ipod shuffle 2nd Gen [22:24] bhodgins: songbird is really nice. [22:24] i seen those, i like the idea of an illuminated keyboard because i keep the lights dim in here anyway [22:24] clip on [22:25] skibur: Ah ok, then you should be alright. [22:25] cool [22:25] songbird needs a fast pc thats for sure [22:26] hmm [22:26] Pig_Pen: Yeah, I almost got saitek eclipse lighted off of newegg a couple months ago for the same price as that one, but by the time I decided, ah heck I'll get it, they were out of stock and they didn't get anymore until after the promo was over. [22:26] doesnt need to be that fast [22:26] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [22:26] moderately I suppose [22:26] define 'that fast' [22:26] Pig_Pen: The saitek doesn't have the, imo, nicer flat keys though. [22:26] IntangibleLiquid (n=anhhung@115.76.8.74) joined ##slackware. [22:26] sup all .. anyone here know how to follow a steaming video and dump it ? [22:26] I ran it on this 5 or 6 year old laptop fine [22:27] what specs? [22:27] macman_ depends on the site i suppose, would need more info [22:28] Soul_keeper: so i went to nbc right and i got the embedded code .. i got the main site from it right .. now im trying to dump it [22:28] i believe mplayer has a -dump switch [22:28] from what I noticed, if you can run firefox, does not mean you can run songbird. I'd say 1.5 ghz minimum cpu to run songbird, and still be able to use the pc to do other things. [22:28] it does [22:28] thats how that old PS2 keyboard is, has nice looking quiet keys and has a good feel, but does not work good [22:28] but ti won't read it [22:29] Soul_keeper: http://tinyurl.com/cbq9mb [22:29] Pig_Pen: to bad it doesn't work well. :) [22:29] im friggin watchin in [22:30] macman_, i'll look and see if i can find a way, no guarantee's [22:30] coo [22:30] yeah, i was annoyed after using it for a while then ctrl alt & backspace wont kill x and ctrl alt delete wont reboot, only the letters & numbers work [22:31] Pig_Pen: I have some keyboards that the keys stick and others where you have to almost press the key through the keyboard before it registers, it gets very annoying when keys wont work, especially if it were ctrl alt backsace, etc. like yours. [22:31] Eddie_grey (n=eddie@189.101.233.2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:32] i will sell it in a yard sale someday for 5 bucks, somebody will buy it and use it for a few weeks and they most likely will be using windows so those key combos wont be missed [22:32] haha [22:32] Sometimes you can get good pc stuff like mice, keyboards, etc. on yard sales. [22:32] you could try cleaning it [22:33] throw it in the dishwasher no heated dry the let it dry out over night [22:33] "yard sales" <--- /me love's them! can't wait! [22:33] Every now and then, I take all the keys of my keyboard and clean it and put them all back on. [22:33] not worth the time and trouble, i have a decent usb keyboard [22:33] Old_Fogie: Same here, they're fun. [22:33] mmmmhmmmm! [22:33] or do like i did and take windex pop out each and every key and clean it edividually [22:33] Old_Fogie: I've gotten some great stuff from yard sales in the past. [22:33] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-170-19.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:34] firebird619, I'm on a pc now that I got at one :) [22:34] i go yard sale hunting on weekends sometimes in the early morning before the crowd cleans em out of all the good stuff [22:34] Heya,folks....How's everyone? [22:34] hi MLanden [22:34] i still use an old compaq key board that weghs like 5lbs [22:34] hi ml [22:34] heya,Pig_Pen [22:34] tab..fail , heh [22:35] heya,Old_Fogie [22:35] Hey MLanden. How's it going? [22:35] i dropped it sdown the stairs once and chipped a corner [22:35] :D [22:35] Old_Fogie: That's how I got the apple pc I have, a yard sale. :) [22:35] Goin' good,firebird619 [22:35] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:35] which apple pc,firebird619? [22:35] Old_Fogie: my two main pc's are the one I won in a sweepstakes and the other one that was given to me by my uncle. [22:36] MLanden: Apple PowerMac G3 All-in-ONe [22:36] a sweeptstakes! neat-o [22:36] s/ONe/One [22:36] Old_Fogie: Yeah, I got the pc I'm on and my Xbox 360 through sweepstakes. [22:36] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:36] nice [22:36] cool....Whcih OSes do you have on 'em,firebird619? [22:36] Which* [22:37] time for my second dinner :) bbiab [22:37] Slackware on the one I won and XP on the other one. Mac OS 8.x on the Mac. [22:37] Old_Fogie: second dinner? [22:37] :P [22:37] later Old_Fogie. :) [22:38] Ever think of putting linux on the mac one,firebird619? [22:39] macman_, i'm having a hard time with that shockwave stuff, can't open any of their links with gmplayer ... it can likely be done tho. there is an option there to "embed in your website" that could lead to a way of streaming it good luck [22:39] MLanden: Yeah, I have. It's just got a 4 GB hdd on it, so not much. I don't really use it at all. [22:39] hear ya,firebird619 [22:39] firebird619: there is a PPC fork of slackware called slackintosh [22:40] really? [22:40] yup, google it [22:40] gmplayer ? [22:40] Pig_Pen: cool. thanks. [22:43] macman_ the mplayer frontend was trying to open their url [22:43] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-174-148.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:44] f2ea243f3381efc5: Macromedia Flash data (compressed), version 8 [22:47] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.43.168) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:47] gbelknap (n=ubuntu@76.125.184.115) joined ##slackware. [22:48] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:50] you need something that will find the url of the actual flash video file embedded in the webpage [22:50] it will have a .flv file extension [22:51] there are some scripts at freshmeat that do it [22:53] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [22:53] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [22:54] http://code.google.com/p/get-flash-videos/ heres one [22:55] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: "когда я умер небыло никого, кто бы это опроверг" [22:56] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [22:57] laters, sleepytime for me :D [22:57] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:57] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [22:58] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) joined ##slackware. [22:58] jdetring (n=jay@adsl-70-234-186-60.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:00] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:02] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-69-153-68-136.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:04] Does slackware have a net-install version? [23:05] DoNoBaN (i=1000@77.208.28.97) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:05] I just saw straterra's photos, and now I'm going to gouge my eye's out with ubunut cd's. [23:05] hahaha [23:05] i think the setup has an install from ftp option [23:06] Action: andarius slaps Old_Fogie for having buntu CDs... [23:06] problem is I have the DVD and this system only has a CD drive :( [23:06] andarius, hahaha g1 [23:06] toastytoast: it does have that option, though it is not intended for internet usage [23:06] man, what was he thinking [23:06] Old_Fogie: alcohol, likely was not thinking [23:06] that's what I get for reading noobfarm [23:06] :) [23:06] i've never used it [23:07] U-Neeks (n=666@201-24-53-242.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [23:07] humm... now I wish I had a PXE on my network :) [23:07] lf4: the installer supports http/ftp and nfs [23:07] i thinhk my friend tried once or twice and failed [23:07] ag3ntugly (n=x@24.32.9.104) joined ##slackware. [23:07] andarius, did you see the crayon markings on the wall, that's almost scarier to think how they got there [23:07] i have used a local ftp and http mirror to do an install. went well [23:07] Old_Fogie: i realized what was loading and ran across the web to hide... [23:07] andarius: I'm not that smart ;) [23:08] andarius, no doubt [23:08] lf4: it is very simple. since there is a doc for it if i recall it is not hard to figure out [23:08] you could put the dvd iso on a asb stick mount the iso and install from there [23:08] usb* [23:08] rather than put the iso on a usb stick just copy the dvd contents [23:08] that to [23:09] i think alien has a how to for installing completely from usb as well [23:09] yeah i've seen that usb install [23:09] I'd rather do it by network though... maybe I'll attempt the ftp/http install :) [23:09] its simple ;) [23:10] lf4, I used the usb howto (which alien is the orig author of) from the slack install cd's. and it works like a charm. you can mount an nfs directory , or a folder on the pc you're installing from using the 'premounted directory' option. [23:10] neuro_sys (n=neurosys@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) left irc: "leaving" [23:11] andarius: http://slackadelic.com/~ash/eeepc-wifi-mod/ <-- my war driving machine :D [23:11] acidchild: wanted slightly better RX huh ? [23:12] yep! :D [23:12] now it looks like a old school cell phone :D [23:12] what kind of diff did you get from it ? [23:12] needs to be bigger [23:12] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:12] andarius: alot more distance! =O [23:12] and considering i'm in a concrete room, im impressed. [23:12] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [23:12] andarius: i'm gonna put another one on the other side ;) [23:12] antenna that is :P [23:13] internal antennas suck. i am sure it is a massive improvement [23:13] chicks love big an-tenna-aye [23:13] xD e-willy [23:13] haha [23:13] damn...you can poke an eye out with that antenna....:D [23:13] he'll be IM'ing martians in no time [23:13] haha [23:14] the image at the bottom... [23:14] acidchild phone home :o [23:14] A real man would make a hat with the antenna there I say! [23:14] if it running kismet, its on top of its big daddy version :-P [23:14] it has two dipoles in it and a mini-itx mobo [23:14] wear that hat in a coffee shop, you'll get *all* the chicks :) [23:14] and some SSD disks. [23:15] but as you're inside a concrete building..any boost would be a massive improvement as andarius stated [23:15] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:15] yep [23:15] _ohm (n=mark@nom23368b.nomadic.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [23:15] and i've got 41 networks showing up on kismet :) [23:15] what did yo wire the antenna to? do you have any photo's of the internal mod's ? [23:16] no :/ i should have though [23:16] i'll take some and make a howto out of it when i install the second antenna. [23:16] =) [23:16] sweet,acidchild [23:16] that's dual purposed, if you're ever in the city, and someone tries to mug you, you're golden there. [23:16] Action: Dominian looks [23:17] haha [23:17] sharpen the end like a stick... >:) [23:17] the internal cards use an almost std connector. [23:17] oh yea [23:17] darn it I don't think my KVM suppots linux :( [23:17] andarius: yep... [23:17] :) [23:17] there are like two common types. easy to get pig tails for [23:17] hba (n=hba@189.188.149.76) joined ##slackware. [23:18] there is err 6 types, but only two types on mini-pci cards and pcmca or w/e they are call cards. [23:18] male and female... one has a pin that sticks out the other accepts a small pin. [23:18] yeah, that's pretty neat, you're like the mechanical/hacker guy for that tomb-raider chick [23:18] LOL [23:18] :) [23:18] the box under the laptop is 1000x of time more interesting ;) [23:19] 43 networks now :P [23:20] so where are the hardware pics for the other box then :P [23:20] it can do 5ghz 2.4ghz and 900mhz [23:20] two antennas and a 1W amp [23:20] andarius: no can do =P [23:20] pics or its fake :P [23:22] its fake :> [23:22] boooo [23:23] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:34] lostnhell (n=Unknown@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:34] Do rc.inet1.conf and rc.wireless do the same tihng? [23:34] could I simply have wireless settings in rc.inet1.conf and leave rc.wireless alone? [23:34] Or should I do it the other way aroudn? [23:37] U-Neeks (n=666@201-24-53-242.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [23:39] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-235-80.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [23:39] so, in the xen readme, it tells me that I wont be able to use initrd, I have to use module, is that the sam ething? it hints it [23:42] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [23:42] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:42] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [23:45] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.243.88) left irc: "Saliendo" [23:47] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: "leaving" [23:48] winter_ (n=winter@75-121-139-150.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:53] initrds contain modules. [23:54] exactly [23:54] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:54] not just modules:)( [23:54] I've put amd and alsa in an initrd before [23:54] Was trying to use metroid prime title as boot music [23:54] I was missing libraries I think is all [23:55] unsure [23:58] 'boot music'? [23:58] Probably means play an MP3 or something while the system boots. [23:58] that's what I thought he meant to, but never heard of it happening before. that's interesting. [23:59] too [00:00] --- Tue Apr 28 2009