[00:01] 13 min, yay1 [00:01] damn shift key [00:01] lol [00:02] ReT__ (n=ret@pool-72-88-98-234.bflony.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:03] hey, can someone point me in the direction of the CD ISO's for Slackware? I'm a failure at figuring out how do correctly download the.iso and .md5's and stuff. [00:04] ReT__ get a mirrors file and pick a fat pipe [00:04] ReT__: http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-12.2-iso/ [00:04] ReT__ get slackpkg, the file in there [00:04] Thanks [00:05] ReT__: if it's too slow, use this and find a mirror http://www.slackware.com/getslack/list.php?country=USA [00:05] then pick slackware 12.2 iso [00:05] thanks (: [00:05] there's only two gig pipes in .us [00:05] pick one [00:06] the 3rd gig pipe @heanet.ie (Ireland) [00:08] i forgot... when there is a 'rc' is that version updated or does it stay the same and then there is a new current? [00:09] the content of a rc becomes new release [00:09] do I need the .asc / .md5 files? [00:09] rc == release condidate [00:09] ReT__ for full chking yes; but only for full verifiability of files [00:09] chking signatures for fraud [00:10] as when you dont trust the source of files [00:10] I always do an md5sum on Quiznos's text to verify because I dont trust him. [00:10] and md5 for chking for errors [00:11] coward :) [00:11] mk. if I'm installing a cd .iso do I need all the disks? I only have 3 blank CD's :P [00:11] no, just #1 [00:12] when you get online you can continue to upgrade and add new stuff without cd [00:12] quasar: and it always comes back mismatch, doesn't it? :P [00:12] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-192-215.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:12] so far only once [00:12] on what?! [00:13] dive: Have you build the dev pidgin yet? [00:13] nope [00:14] s/build/built [00:14] dive: you want the source? [00:14] I'd have to go into the logs to find it [00:14] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:14] i could check it i guess but would rather wait until it's released [00:15] dive: Oh and how did you do your directory listing on your site? [00:15] php [00:15] a plugin or all custom built by you? [00:15] Quiznos, i just meant that if i want to upgrade to something that is not changing can i do that with the current rc or should i use 13rc1 for example? [00:15] me [00:15] dive: Looks really nice. [00:15] thanks [00:15] dive: I've been looking around on how i could make it look that nice so i could do the same on mine. [00:15] :D [00:16] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: "Leaving" [00:16] i can send you my index.php if you like [00:16] dchmelik duno; anyone answer this? [00:16] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.114) left irc: "Leaving" [00:17] dive: Sure! that's be great. [00:17] my gmail email that you have is fine. :D [00:18] send agentc0re ~/index.php [00:18] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:18] oh right ok [00:18] could i setup a cluster with slack? [00:18] keep in mind i know nothing about clusters atm lol [00:19] anyone know anything about clusters? [00:19] maybe it is not so important... i am also wondering how to use slackpkg to update from a snapshot of current ISO I made... i guess it will work no matter what stage the different packages are at [00:20] dchmelik: as long as you maintain the -current tree in slackpkg.. shouldn't be an issue [00:20] that's what I do on my desktop I'm on right now [00:20] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [00:21] pupiteee (n=p@93.87.253.236) joined ##slackware. [00:27] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:28] what do you think is the slowest computer worth running Slackware on to run something like BOINC or GIMP based on how much electricity it uses? [00:30] actually i meant GIMPS not GIMP [00:30] Generally, newer CPUs are more efficient per clock. [00:31] dive: do you have a css that goes with it? [00:32] if you find a lot of old computers on an auction (which i did) they are probably going to be too old to be efficient... but i want to set up a cluster to run those programs all the time. [00:32] pupiteee (n=p@93.87.253.236) left irc: "Leaving." [00:32] it's not about the dist on cluster boxen; it's about the cluster-tools you use [00:32] hey can we difine MTU manually? [00:32] agentc0re, http://www.unrealize.co.uk/_files/main.css <- should download [00:33] Slack sure, define it when you ifconfig your nic [00:33] SlackWeird DONT DO IT; kernel is smarter than you [00:33] ifconfig blah bleh mtu 1450, for example [00:34] Thanks dive! [00:35] np [00:36] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "my how things can change fast..." [00:36] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:36] k thanks found it in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [00:37] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:37] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [00:37] ok, i don't use those so i didn't know you could set it up there [00:38] i was wondering if it was possible to difine it at the router [00:38] consult your router manual for that [00:38] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-49-207.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [00:38] define* [00:38] wow some just HIT in.tftpd [00:38] and syslogd died [00:39] Evan2884 (n=evan2884@222.212.107.39) joined ##slackware. [00:39] Do you have a reason to run tftpd..? [00:39] it's in inetd [00:39] comment it out [00:39] I don't even run inetd [00:40] tryin to find the IP it's coming from [00:40] Action: Dominian has no use for it [00:41] Quiznos, I am not sure they will actually be connected with a cluster tool instead of just being plugged in in the same area [00:42] ok [00:42] var/log/messages 320meg large [00:43] in.tftpd wasnt protected by tcpwrappers [00:43] logrotate ftw [00:43] yep [00:43] gonna trim it down too [00:43] Quiznos: Frankly, if you have no use for tftpd.. disable it. [00:43] i dont need all those msgs [00:43] nods [00:43] dchmelik, do you imagine your processes being automatically balanced among computers, sort of how SMP works? [00:43] Like I said.. The first thing I do is: /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd stop and then chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.inetd [00:44] why stop? [00:44] There's no use for it [00:44] at least for me :) [00:44] oh; well, that's the "safe" way [00:44] :) [00:44] there's no real reason to run "time" nor identd [00:44] pi31415: only if that is useful for BOINC or GIMPS, but I do not think it is necessary [00:44] irc wnts identd [00:44] and those are usually the only two inetd services that are running. [00:45] i have ftp/ht and gopher running [00:45] wanna run fido too [00:45] er ok [00:45] Evan2884 (n=evan2884@222.212.107.39) left ##slackware. [00:45] Action: MLanden ....Ah what memories with fidonet..:D [00:45] at least BOINC can run stuff on a network of computers [00:46] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-228.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-76-208-82-228.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:51] CeruleanC (n=Cerulean@unaffiliated/ceruleanc) joined ##slackware. [00:52] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [00:53] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) joined ##slackware. [00:53] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-168-56.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [00:53] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-168-56.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:55] i never got to play with fidonet nor uucp [00:55] still can [00:55] fido is alive [00:56] Quiznos: good to hear [00:56] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:00] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-61-43.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:01] Nick change: AnonymousRednek -> nyRednek [01:03] sbopkg mmm [01:05] but stellarium FAIL [01:06] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [01:06] I wrote stellarium's maintainer, but it's doing something odd where it looks for qt qmake and doesn't find it, but it's indeed there [01:07] Hmm. [01:07] Kamel (n=1@adsl-178-199-150.jax.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] This morning, I was under the impression that the hard drive was hosed. [01:08] After nearly 10 consecutive hours of e2fsck later, it seems to be booting fine at the moment. [01:08] I should clarify, not the maintainer, the slackbuilder [01:08] o_O [01:09] There we go. [01:10] why would e2fsck take 10 hours? [01:10] parnoid chking [01:10] like a complete check? [01:10] yep [01:10] Well, a full sweep with -ycfv took about 55 minutes. [01:11] But then there were some bad blocks.. [01:11] Action: MLanden knocks on wood for ccfreak2k [01:11] But now they seem to have disappeared. [01:11] And I don't think it wrote a bad blocks file. [01:12] huh... my wife downloaded a song by Saliva [01:12] Action: Dominian is impressed! [01:12] smart handles bad blocks at the drive level [01:12] mancha, it does until it runs out of spare sectors. [01:13] that is true. my point stands. [01:14] lol; gold fish survives 7h out of bowl after jumping 5 feet. Sparkles the gold fish lives!!! [01:14] that's news. [01:14] covered in dust and dog hair [01:14] lol,Quiznos......no cats,I see [01:14] none mentined [01:15] in th radio story [01:15] daughter says "mommy has speeshul powahs" [01:15] pff [01:15] Quiznos, that is impressive. [01:15] AND it survived seven hours too! [01:15] nods that's why i write these lines [01:16] http://beta.heroesofnewerth.com/H829BYwa3z/facebook.php [01:16] anyone remember the Quiznews i used to do in ##Linux? [01:17] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:17] from time and time,Quiznos [01:18] or time to time,I mean [01:18] pick one :) [01:18] Time XOR time. [01:18] time after time [01:19] time is not on my side....:D [01:20] think i may setup a beowulf cluster... [01:21] kool [01:21] fsckroot (n=fsckroot@124.150.109.149) left irc: ""Help! I've been g:lined from my mIRC!!" Bersirc 2.2: less n00bs [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ]" [01:21] not for me though, it's for the group [01:21] Slack NWO [01:21] need to get some machines though [01:21] what should i get? [01:22] i was thinking of like 4 or 5 c2d or quad core intel chips [01:24] Get a few doritos [01:25] antiwire: got dd-wrt on the router, didn't brick it, and wifi is now working except for one minor issue that I'll get fixed soon, stupid b43-fwcutter was the issue, I didn't have it. :P [01:25] news: (speculation really) Loch Ness "monster" maybe a HUGE eel [01:25] ill probably go with 5 core 2 duo chips, 4GB ram per node, and a RAID 5 setup on the main node [01:25] fire|bird: you'll be better off using dd-wrt anyway [01:25] antiwire: yeah, it's awesome [01:26] Quiznos: what do you think of that setup? [01:26] did you use the newer eko version I posted or the SP1? [01:26] antiwire: one other gripe though, my wifi card in the lappy only supports WEP. :( [01:26] antiwire: the one you posted [01:26] nice [01:26] ViN86 why not make a heterogenous beowulf? cheaper harder, more partitioning, et [01:26] etc [01:27] but your hw spec is good [01:27] what do you mean? [01:27] antiwire: So, I should look for another wifi card for the lappy, one that supports more than wep, do you use a card that goes inside the laptop or an external card? [01:27] im new to this clustering btw lol [01:27] include a few c64's, coco IIs and IIIs, //e, ][+ and a pdp; oh and a mac quadra [01:27] use Amoeba os. [01:28] fire|bird: I use all types for different needs; some are USB, pccard and I have the internal cards too [01:28] coco IIs? [01:28] yep [01:28] fire|bird: Does your laptop use mini pci or mini pci e? (if it only supports WEP I'm guessing mini pci) [01:28] was thinkin' Apple [01:28] antiwire: mini pci [01:29] fire|bird: If you need to upgrade it I'd go with a mini pci atheros based card [01:29] amoeba? [01:29] or at the very least an Intel 2915 [01:29] andrew tanenbaum's creature [01:29] that is minipci [01:29] Quiznos: is it linux based? [01:29] antiwire: This is the card I have now: http://tinyurl.com/lje894 [01:30] ViN86 duno; it is an OS. [01:30] antiwire: lol....I'm trying to send him one....but he won't answer me ;) [01:30] Quiznos: well i want to get matlab running on the cluster [01:30] kool [01:30] dont know if i can do it with amoeba [01:30] it's not my requirement [01:31] I have a mini pci card that is just sitting around but it's too high power to go inside a laptop [01:31] guys, i know flash linux version is not so fast, but can i speed up in some way flash videos like youtube? youtube freezes while listening it. (not about internet speedy) [01:31] it's for pole mounted situations [01:31] powtrix: nope [01:31] i think gnu has a flash of its own [01:31] firefox as browser [01:31] powtrix: What's your memory? [01:31] 8 [01:32] like, if i play an avi or any movie its ok, but flash .. :/ [01:32] welcome to the world of flash [01:32] yup [01:32] frash [01:33] flash is more intensive than playing an avi file generally, unfortunately [01:33] mplayer can play it better than via firefox? [01:33] one option may be to get an application to download the .flv, then play it with a player that plays .flv better, or transcode it into a format that doesn't suck [01:35] there was a player (gnash iirc) which was improviing quickly. i stopped tracking it back when it still sucked though. [01:35] Quiznos: wow it seems matlab has its own distributed computing server [01:35] heh [01:35] well, thanks anyway [01:35] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Building_a_Beowulf_Cluster/Parallelization_of_computation/Matlab [01:36] apparently you just setup the beowulf cluster, then start the server [01:37] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:37] wow this just got way easier lol [01:38] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:44] Action: ViN86 loves robot chicken [01:44] Action: fire|bird loves robot turduken [01:44] what the hell happened to kernel.org? [01:45] Action: ViN86 almost died watching the NRA Kids Club [01:45] chking [01:45] http://www.robotchicken.org/index.php?title=NRA_Kids_Club [01:45] whoa, what the.....did they do to it. [01:45] working here; anything else antiwire ? [01:45] antiwire: that looks horrible [01:45] Quiznos: he doesn't mean that [01:45] looks fine in console [01:45] looks like crap [01:45] the ui? [01:45] antiwire: indeed it does [01:46] who the....approved that design change [01:46] goin to install slack 64 [01:46] see you guys tomorrow [01:46] ViN86: good luck [01:46] lol thx, do i need it? [01:46] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [01:47] dunno...always good to have it though....;P [01:47] antiwire yea, the line-breaks are messed [01:47] MLanden: good point, i shall keep the luck on my utility belt [01:47] let's flame them [01:47] ViN86 (i=ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-TWENTY-THREE.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [01:52] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:52] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:57] antiwire terrible page layout when a simple 2d table would suffice. [01:58] antiwire mayhaps the author is tryin to be fancy; he should be trouted [01:58] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [02:02] pseudo-flame to kernel.org sent [02:03] Who is in the mood for a linux desktop screenshot? [02:03] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [02:04] hey Motoko-chan [02:05] Hello [02:05] Motoko-chan: you have a screenshot to share? [02:05] Action: Motoko-chan did a new desktop screenshot today [02:05] I do! [02:05] cool [02:06] Shall I? [02:07] you shall [02:07] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:07] http://rommie.animeneko.net/temp/desktop20090826.png [02:07] Feel free to play "guess the distro" [02:08] KDE4 Mandriva [02:08] looks great [02:08] Very good. [02:08] The kde button and the MCC icon are giveaways. [02:09] fire|bird: good guess :) [02:09] y0 slackmagic [02:09] It's a good wallpaper too. [02:09] fire|bird: hehe, what's up mate [02:09] Action: Motoko-chan turned on Compiz for translucent terminal too [02:09] Motoko-chan: yeah, I could tell by the kde icon, mandriva's is very distinctive. [02:10] tanner (n=tanner@unaffiliated/tanner) joined ##slackware. [02:10] It's been a solid distro on this lappy. [02:10] slackmagic: just working on installing slack64 on the laptop. [02:10] where is the mysql config file under slackware, its not in the usual /etc/mysql/my.cnf [02:10] HP Pavilion dv5 [02:10] tanner, /etc/my.cnf [02:10] But I don't think there is one by default. [02:10] Create from scratch or copy an example from docs. [02:11] http://titanomachy.net/sights/screenshots/screenshot20090118b.png [02:11] obnauticus_ (n=obnautic@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:11] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:11] fire|bird: ah, i haven't had the chance yet to play with any of that [02:11] briareus: fluxbox? [02:11] Motoko-chan: clean workspace I must admit [02:11] briareus, nice. [02:12] Action: Motoko-chan guesses Flux too [02:12] briareus_: ++ [02:12] thank you Motoko-chan [02:12] slackmagic, thanks. I used to have an awful cluttered desktop on Windows. [02:12] thats been a pain in my ass for an hour or better [02:12] fluxbox [02:12] I do need to do some cleaning of ~/Downloads and ~/Documents [02:12] briareus_: very nice [02:12] Action: slackmagic raises his hand. I know I know! Fluxbox! [02:13] ah, briareus_ beat me to it :D [02:13] tanner, if you need MySQL to bind to the network, edit /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld [02:13] Comment out the skip-networking option [02:13] fluxbox with transparent eterms and aterms [02:13] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [02:14] Motoko-chan: my hero :P [02:14] same shit: http://titanomachy.net/sights/screenshots/screenshot20090117a.png [02:14] briareus_: to me those type of fonts are a bit too small for me hehe [02:14] briareus_: that's very, very nice [02:14] well, it's 2960x1050 for my eyes :) [02:14] I just posted my desktop ss yesterday and now I can't find the link. :/ [02:15] ViN86 (i=1000@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-SIXTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [02:15] tanner, I've managed Slackware way too long. [02:15] one external 22" 1600x1050 next to a 1280x900 laptop, thus the emprty real estate bottom right [02:15] mine still hasn't changed [02:15] i hath returned [02:15] in slack 64 [02:15] Motoko-chan: I'm not used to slack at all. Mostly a debian person :-\ [02:15] fire|bird: :) [02:16] MLanden: i made it [02:16] lol [02:16] usually its a bit more boring :) [02:16] Ah. [02:16] http://gallery.slackmagic.com/ <--- still using the same first screenshot pretty much [02:16] Slackware is nice. [02:16] ViN86: aright!!! [02:16] \m/ O \m/ [02:16] jawix (n=jawix@195.180.9.202) joined ##slackware. [02:16] and there was much rejoicing [02:16] pretty quick install [02:16] took me like 15 min [02:17] i took a shower though lol [02:17] It might be weird coming from Debian, but it does have tons of charm [02:17] ViN86: TMI [02:17] Action: Motoko-chan likes the minimal installs one can do [02:17] MLanden: hey no shower details, just a statement heh [02:17] tanner, one good resource for you: http://slackbuilds.org/ [02:17] now to get my nvidia drivers workin [02:17] sbopkg mmmm [02:17] ViN86: lol.....cool [02:18] ViN86: happy tweakin' [02:18] thx, ill brb [02:18] heh [02:18] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:18] ViN86 (i=1000@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-SIXTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) left irc: Client Quit [02:18] Thanks, hopefully I won't have to touch this box too much. [02:19] Slackware is stable, so likely. [02:19] Just learn to use slackpkg for updates. [02:19] real men use Ubuntu [02:19] use slackpkg for updates? [02:19] only if you know what ya doing [02:20] which you don't ? [02:20] well, its not my job to manage the box. Eventually it'll be switched anyway. Just have to have it working for now :) [02:20] Nick change: rk4n3_ -> rk4n3 [02:20] y0 rk4n3 [02:21] hey fire|bird - what's shakin ? [02:21] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:21] rk4n3: nm, just working to install slack64 on the lappy, you? [02:21] Switched? ;_; [02:21] superGear, what kind of drugs are you on? [02:21] fire|bird: sweet - I got my VM/server problem sorted out - turned out to be a bad RAM stick [02:21] ferdna (n=ferdna@cpe-24-92-112-49.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:21] rk4n3: cool, glad it's fixed. :) [02:22] yeah, me too [02:22] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:22] rk4n3: that can be a true bummer...good to hear that there was an easy solution [02:22] thanks again Motoko-chan [02:23] tanner (n=tanner@unaffiliated/tanner) left ##slackware. [02:23] MLanden: :) [02:24] what would you guys make of this. Build output: [02:24] CMake Error: Qt qmake not found! [02:24] -- Configuring done [02:24] Channel flood from briareus_ -- kicking [02:24] but... [02:24] briareus_ kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [02:24] MLanden: hardest part was the uncertainty and trying to pin it down - thought for sure it was the VMware software initially [02:24] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [02:24] but... [02:24] root@slackbook1420:~# which qmake [02:24] /usr/bin/qmake [02:24] ...mystery! [02:24] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) joined ##slackware. [02:25] sorry for the kick. Though the typed in between didnt count as spam [02:25] rk4n3: hear ya [02:25] briareus_, check config.log [02:25] If it's in the configure stage. [02:25] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) left irc: "Leaving" [02:25] not sure where to find that config.log for a slackbuilf [02:27] ViN86 (i=1000@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-SIXTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [02:27] briareus, check the temporary directory. [02:27] wow [02:27] Using SB.o package? [02:27] im lovin this KDE [02:27] yeah [02:27] so used to the old one lol [02:27] It's in /tmp/SBo/ [02:27] stellarium, 12.1 [02:27] ViN86, KDE4? [02:27] yea [02:27] MLanden: success! [02:28] ViN86: gear!! [02:28] Action: quasar cheers [02:28] Tyrael (n=tyrael@c89089.upc-c.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [02:28] hmm, don't see a log in /tmp/SBo/stellarium-0.9.1/ ...yet. still looking [02:28] Yeah, 4 is nice. [02:28] Despite grumbling. [02:28] ogex (n=ogex@125.165.49.49) joined ##slackware. [02:28] If it was in the configure stage, it'll be config.log in the same directory as the configure script. [02:28] with the exception of akonadi, I agree [02:29] You might want to run the script manually to see where it breaks. [02:30] 0.10.2 is out, fyi [02:30] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-nqihmezwhkemspbt) joined ##slackware. [02:30] yeah, just using the slackbuild (via sbopkg) or 'manually' with slackbuild [02:30] which is .9 but yeah I should check that out [02:31] looks like it says it has a binary installer, hmm [02:31] actually SBo already has updated the scripts for 0.10.2 [02:31] you should pull updated scripts [02:32] not for 12.1 I think [02:32] I just pulled it a minute ago [02:32] 12.2 scripts should be fine [02:32] yeah? [02:32] yeah [02:32] cool [02:33] I'll try that, after cleaning this out [02:35] is this thing worth it? it's 30MB source [02:35] I'm building it right now to find out [02:36] quasar: what is akonadi? I've installed -current on my laptop, and whenever I log in as root, akonadi complains. when I log in as a user, no complaining from akonadi [02:36] PIM storage service [02:36] the only reason I dislike it is because you_must_ have mysql for it to work [02:37] with a lot of the K applications moving to use it (ie: KOrganizer, KMail, etc) .. it's against my religion.. [02:38] hmmm - well it said mysqld found, but whenever I tried to click on save, the box timed out and I couldn't save the error report [02:38] I'm not sure why exactly there is an error when you go into KDE as root, but they've done that on purpose [02:39] It's because YOU SHOULDNT RUN AS ROOT NORMALLY [02:39] normally I don't log in as root, but with initial setup testing and configuring it's easier as root [02:39] It's a warning to remind you that you are root. [02:39] Motoko-chan: I don't - I'm only logging in as root during the initial configuration of laptop after installing [02:40] Then just click away the warning for now. [02:40] I run root in a tty usually [02:40] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [02:40] if that's the case, it should just popup something about "your logged in as root - you have been warned" rather than the default standard error popup [02:40] actually, akonadi doesn't care that you're running KDE as root itself [02:40] Or be hardcore and configure at the console. [02:40] the mysql server that you have to have also runs as root and that's why KDE has issues with it [02:40] I drop from X to tty a lot for things [02:41] alisonken1noc, I'm guessing it's to simplify code paths [02:41] (the mysql server runs as the user currently logged into X) [02:41] briareus_: typically I do too, but since I was trying to get svideo configured, it was easier to run X and cut/paste between kate sessions :) [02:41] yeah [02:41] Motoko-chan: it would have been simpler to just do an initial root uid check, then continue with normal checks [02:42] ViN86 (i=1000@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-SIXTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) left irc: Nick collision from services. [02:42] ViN86_ (i=1000@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-SIXTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [02:42] Nick change: ViN86_ -> ViN86 [02:43] it's also annoying to get an error window and not have time to click on the save options - gives the impression that somethings wrong with the software [02:44] ViN86 (i=1000@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-SIXTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) left irc: Client Quit [02:45] Action: quasar stabs some intelligent person at mit.edu [02:45] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Excess Flood [02:45] Save the brains,quasar...:D [02:45] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:45] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [02:47] alisonken1noc: there is a way to "fix" it so the error doesn't pop up.. according to this website anway.. not sure how valid it is (http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-list/2009-03/msg02013.html) [02:47] quasar: "Yikes, that page is AWOL! Try searching:" [02:47] you forgot to leave a space between the link and the parents [02:47] bah [02:48] works fine with mIRC ! [02:48] Action: quasar snickers [02:48] Action: quasar hides too. [02:49] :) [02:49] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.158.153.123) joined ##slackware. [02:49] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [02:53] who has ops in slackofftopic [02:53] ViN86 (i=1000@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-SIXTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [02:53] not me, sorry :\ [02:54] got matlab installed [02:54] TwinReverb does, but he's not around, I think eviljames does too [02:54] he needs the boot [02:54] indeed [02:55] alright im off to bed [02:55] gnite guys [02:56] night ViN86 [02:56] fire|bird: gnite [02:56] ViN86 (i=1000@SYDNEYPACIFIC-FOUR-SIXTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) left irc: Client Quit [02:56] hw much is it $$? [02:56] trouble pulling 12.2 slackbuild, but now rolling in [03:00] geno_ (n=geno@125-236-175-77.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:02] Good luck,slackers....talk with all later...:D [03:02] see ya MLanden [03:02] take care [03:02] Camarade_Tux (n=adrien@138.195.146.147) joined ##slackware. [03:02] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-168-56.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [03:02] y0 Camarade_Tux [03:02] dammit, same error with 12.2 [03:02] CMake Error: Qt qmake not found! [03:02] -- Configuring done [03:04] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Connection timed out [03:04] briareus_: I think stellarium needs qt4, you have that? [03:04] hmmm [03:05] I have a default/full 12.1 install [03:05] whatever that means [03:05] then you don't have qt4 unless you built and installed it. [03:05] you missed reading thta it requires qt4 and boost [03:05] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-39.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:05] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [03:05] did you get the deps? [03:05] I was using sbopkg [03:05] but I have qmake which it seems to be looking for [03:06] get the deps [03:06] can I use slackpkg to install qt4? [03:06] or how can I see if I have it? [03:06] briareus_: It needs *qmake-qt4*, which it will find once installed [03:07] briareus_: no, no slackpkg in that case [03:08] not in slackbuilds either, so qt4 install is totally from scratch, ok [03:08] well, this isn't going to happen this week [03:09] thanks for the hints [03:09] yoyo fire|bird [03:09] usually sbopkg will tell you what you are missing, and since I could find qmake, I thought I was good [03:09] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/libraries/qt4/ [03:09] it is there... [03:09] it's in the description [03:09] but I'm 12.1 [03:10] ...http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.1/libraries/qt4/ [03:10] srsly. [03:10] briareus_: fail [03:10] wtf I seriously just searched there at go no hits [03:10] thats why I said its not there [03:11] I dont get this shit sometimes [03:11] same here... [03:11] been running linux for 10 years and slackware just baffles me sometimes [03:11] antiwire: lol [03:12] ;) [03:12] yeah well maybe next time I post a screnshot of the null find and get some cred [03:12] night [03:12] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left ##slackware. [03:12] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:13] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) joined ##slackware. [03:13] slackware baffles him still after 10 years? Hmmmm .... makes me wonder what distro he came from then [03:14] I've been running Linux for over 15 years, and slackware is the _only_ one that doesn't baffle me [03:15] back in my day, compiling actually meant something! [03:15] "back in my day we had to compile uphill, in the snow, both ways !!!" [03:16] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-192-215.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:16] what about assembling? [03:16] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:16] or making hex code? [03:16] dchmelik: part of compiling [03:17] unless you're doing the switch-flip (which I have had to do on occasion on the boat) [03:17] i use sed and /dev/random to write code [03:17] "(May 20, 2009) TCC version 0.9.25 is out thanks to Grischka (Changelog). TCC version 0.9.25 is the first that supports the x86-64 target. Thanks to Shinichiro Hamaji for this. " \o/ [03:17] sucka [03:17] whats routing table file in slackware? [03:17] unless you do it without compiling a higher-level language [03:17] SlackWeird: it's called 'the kernel' [03:17] routing table _file_ ? [03:17] ktos (n=ktos@79.184.145.34) joined ##slackware. [03:18] dchmelik: hand the man a kewpe doll :) [03:18] antiwire: so far, my code has looked like /dev/random when ran! :D [03:18] you have lost me [03:18] quasar: hahaha [03:18] http://in.com has a really cool "bubble cloud"; one of you should go see it [03:18] Hi all [03:19] on the ship, the techies didn't have a compiler, the only way to get the program into the computer was by a) paper tape, b) 3/4" magnetic tape supplied by DoD, or c) neon push-button indicators on the front panel of the computer [03:19] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:20] it sounds like a ship last century [03:21] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:21] well, the ship and ntds systems were from the 1950's for the local NTDS stuff, but it worked well [03:21] the newer computers (uyk-43) uses a keypad with dot-matrix digital display [03:22] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-135-39.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:23] dot-matrix digital display? i seeee.... [03:23] http://books.google.com/books?id=Mi8MhzheOokC&pg=PA298&lpg=PA298&dq=univac+cp-642A&source=bl&ots=hzm8UjFyT9&sig=15ucj0umVRqw_OsCtFjuxNF_6PE&hl=en&ei=UjSWSqL9M5S6swPB06WcDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=11#v=onepage&q=univac%20cp-642A&f=false [03:24] cp642a computer that I worked on when stationed on a cruiser [03:24] scroll down a little bit for a picture [03:24] http://beta.heroesofnewerth.com/H829BYwa3z/facebook.php [03:24] hmm antiwire... as I suspected [03:24] and yes, those drawers hold 15-pin discreet component (think non-IC chip) boards [03:25] SlackWeird: The routing table is manipulated with route or even better, the iproute2 tools [03:25] does anybody tried to use dkim-milter on sendmail? [03:26] it looks like a minicomputer [03:26] it's larger than a refrigerator and is water cooled [03:26] 32K of 30-bit datawords [03:26] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-60-119-54.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:27] wait - that's only if you have an attached ecmu (external core memory unit) - the computer only had about 8K total [03:27] ron1n (i=18ee2b56@gateway/web/freenode/x-dnzgrmcwqdwaapct) joined ##slackware. [03:27] the odd part is how kernel will remember that changes after reboot [03:27] hey guys, does anyone by chance have the rsync url for osu osl [03:28] I can [03:28] I can't find it anywhere.** [03:28] Ok, I am installing slack64, dual boot with windows. Do I want windows added to fstab for Linux to see? [03:28] SlackWeird: It doesn't. you would script your routing usually [03:29] fire|bird: do you? [03:29] fire|bird: I usually do [03:29] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.213.239) joined ##slackware. [03:29] alisonken1noc: ok, thanks [03:29] as ktos asks: do you? [03:30] when i am dead i want the ideal form of the Slackware code to work between my mind and the mental plane to help me think very logically [03:30] Well, I just wanted to make sure that it didn't affect dual boot. I don't care if I don't see it from linux otherwise. [03:30] if some one else is going to be using your linux side, then it depends on if you trust them to _not_ screw with your windows partition [03:30] pff.. it's only windows [03:30] well, I'm preety sure I havent written no scripts of my routing, and the `route` output is a routing table.... something about magic in slackware [03:31] alisonken1noc: yeah, I chose no, I don't need to see it even, and if I do someday, I can add it. [03:31] alisonken1noc: thanks [03:31] SlackWeird: The Slackware networking scripts do all of that for you. [03:31] I didnt ask them... I dont like slackware anymore [03:31] fire|bird: another option is to go ahead and put it in fstab as "no auto load" mode, so it's easy to mount when you want to [03:32] SlackWeird: you have networking running [03:32] alisonken1noc: yeah, I can do that afterwards. It's installing now. :) [03:32] you asked them the setup routes when you configured interfaces. [03:32] them the/them to [03:32] SlackWeird: btw - that functionality not limited to slackware [03:32] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:34] alisonken1noc: I know, that's ubutuish [03:34] ubuntu * [03:34] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [03:34] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:34] ip r s table local && ip r s table main [03:34] nope - all distributions that use 2.6.x and the iproute packages [03:34] look that those... [03:35] that's kernel 2.6.x [03:35] and then grep for route in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 [03:35] Ekc (n=iskar@78.128.55.9) left irc: "Leaving" [03:35] it's not magic [03:36] aaaaaaaahhh now its not anymore :) [03:36] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [03:36] It never was magic [03:36] Morning all [03:36] does everybody here use dkim on postfix here? :) [03:36] morning a750mhzslinky [03:37] it was for your first answer, simply 'the kernel' [03:37] You asked where the routing table is [03:38] anyway thanks for the info man [03:38] oddsock (n=me@adsl-12-135.teol.net) joined ##slackware. [03:39] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) joined ##slackware. [03:39] SonLightInn_ (n=user@61.43.249.4) joined ##slackware. [03:40] SlackWeird: give back the spoon :P [03:40] damn dude, I can't seem to find a good slackware rsync mirror at the moment. [03:42] chopp: sure, anytime [03:42] mirrors.vbi.vt.edu [03:42] running an rsync now in fact [03:44] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: ""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."" [03:44] alisonken1noc: I'll give it a try, thanks [03:44] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [03:45] how did soem 17yr old get into a school with a crapload of bombs and a chainsaw without someone noticing? .. I mean, did they ask him "Hi, is that a chainsaw in your pocket or are you just happy to be here?" and he answered "just happy to be here" or something? o.O [03:45] SonLightInn_ (n=user@61.43.249.4) left irc: "Leaving" [03:45] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) left irc: "Leaving" [03:46] ahh excellent, thanks a lot alisonken1noc =] [03:46] He would have just walked in with it, or put it in guitar case [03:49] if I tried "ipgradepkg *" would it install anything not previously installed? [03:49] if you did --install-new [03:50] upgradepkg would probably work better :) [03:50] lol [03:50] of course =P [03:50] geno_ (n=geno@125-236-157-40.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [03:51] ron1n: where are you running upgradepkg though? if you cd into slackware-mirror-topleve/slackware/ you could use upgradepkg --install-new */* [03:51] wlel [03:52] antiwire: I just mirrored a local ./patches directory and I want upgrade all the packages installed currently on this system without introducing anything new. [03:52] ok [03:52] cd into patches/packages [03:52] i think i figered out that most google ads do not work when http is running on localhost:80 [03:52] but don't just use */* like I typed, that's bad form [03:53] ron1n: */*.tgz would be nicer [03:53] ron1n: You could also use slackpkg to take care of all this for you [03:53] and for -current, it's "*/*.txz [03:53] alright. so upgradepkg --install-new /packages/*tgz? [03:54] I guess he's not on -current since he is using patches/ [03:54] assuming my current working directory is in patches [03:54] ron1n: yeah but out the . in there [03:54] *.tgz [03:54] alright, thanks guys! [03:55] wait [03:55] not install new [03:55] just upgradepkg [03:55] antiwire: wait, so install new would introduce new software to the machine? (which I am trying to avoid) [03:56] patches/ usually won't have anything new [03:56] only fixes to existing packages [03:56] I see alrighty [03:57] using install-new will end without anything being done, without the install-new it will upgrade the currently installed versions to whatever is in patches/ [03:57] regardless if the versions are equal? [03:57] ron1n: just check the Changelog to see if anything has actually been added [03:58] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.71.131) joined ##slackware. [03:58] --reinstall if they are equal [03:58] upgradepkg's man page lays this all out [03:59] yeah, reading that now [03:59] --install-new should actually be fine when working in patches/ but since you specifically said you don't want to add anything new, you want to get used to leaving that off [04:00] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [04:00] yeah, I just want whatever needs to be patched, to be updated. Leaving the rest of my system untouched. [04:01] ron1n (i=18ee2b56@gateway/web/freenode/x-dnzgrmcwqdwaapct) left irc: "Page closed" [04:01] find / --exec untouch {} \; [04:02] (dont do that) [04:05] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:05] geno_ (n=geno@125-236-157-40.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:06] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.11.243) joined ##slackware. [04:09] "If we were talking cars, Linux would be an Audi A4, the Mac, BMW 330 and Windows would be a mid-70s Ford "Hit here to blow up" Pinto." [04:09] talking about security [04:10] geno_ (n=geno@125-236-157-40.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [04:10] hi guys, how enable faster lookup of files in /bin, /usr/bin, /usr/lib , /sbin, etc. for faster execution and load of files when it's installed tons of software? [04:10] How bad is it? [04:10] don't install tons of software in the base /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin directories [04:11] How much crap must be installed to cause an issue though? [04:11] I'm curious [04:12] don't know, but on my slamd64 machine, I count 4080 program names/links in [/usr]/[s]bin [04:12] the $PATH search is slow [04:12] doesn't seem to be an issue for me [04:13] yesyes (n=yesyes@93-96-128-85.zone4.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:13] but optimizing $PATH is also a good option [04:13] \o/, slackware64 is now installed on my laptop. [04:13] to use possibly B+/B* or similar [04:13] fire|bird: go to bed :P haha [04:14] lf4: I will be soon, it's 03:12 [04:14] Haha yeah I know its late for you. :) [04:14] Thats cool you are getting everything working though. [04:14] lf4: yeah, and I still have windows for those few apps and a nice 80G section for slackware, more than plenty. :D [04:15] Nice :) how come you dont just run windows in a VM? [04:15] lf4: because I couldn't get those apps off the lappy into the vm [04:16] Oh the laptop is still default? [04:16] lf4: the laptop has windows + some apps I wanted to keep, hence choosing dual boot [04:16] and I got wireless fixed too [04:17] What was the issue with the wireless? [04:17] lf4: only WEP support and b43-fwcutter [04:18] Well, anyway, later guys. Take care. [04:18] man that lappy's fast on slack64. \o/ [04:18] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware (""Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.""). [04:23] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:24] why slackware is not so pupular as other distros? imo it is one of the best [04:25] I maan for server use [04:25] ktos: cause for most of the populace if its harder than a click.. its not worth doing [04:25] because most people are brainwashed by MS dialog boxes and a mouse [04:26] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:26] hehe, I like windows and use t on desktop, but for server I hate clickable distros, its waste of resources and unconfigurable [04:27] among other things - dialog boxes and mouse clicks don't transfer via serial port very easy [04:27] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [04:27] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:27] hehe [04:27] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89AE1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [04:28] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:29] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:30] even now I am on kvirc in ms windows but connected to slackware by ssh, it would be stupid to transfer entire kde throught internet [04:30] jessen (n=jessen@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:31] btw Pat added vnc to extra XD [04:32] so I could transfer kde if I installed it [04:32] maxote, optimize your filesystem, not $PATH. i.e. don't use ext3. [04:33] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.84.11.243) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:34] apropos, your opinions about ext4 vs raiser4 vs reiserfs ? (excluding raiser4 will probably no longer developed) [04:35] I notice in current there is ext4 but used raiserfs because of habit [04:35] noticed* [04:35] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Success [04:37] I drove 200+ miles today in smoky smog air of LA [04:38] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [04:38] So my question is; where's my fscking trophy [04:38] sz^ (n=sz@a91-154-14-78.elisa-laajakaista.fi) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:39] give it too the natives that moved away from there many years ago because there campfire smoke lingered ;) [04:40] antiwire: I work in it every night - where's _my_ trophy? or free trip to jamaica? [04:40] ktos, i use reiserfs out of habit too (it's lean and fast), but with the release of 13 i'm planning to switch to ext4, seems more productive. [04:41] alisonken1noc: I don't know but if you get one you better damn well tell me where [04:41] :) [04:41] ktos, reiser4 will never make it into the kernel. maybe in 15+ years when hans gets out..... [04:41] I was on the 405 for 3 hours alone! [04:41] Nick change: obnauticus_ -> obnauticus [04:42] only 3 hours? you made good time then [04:42] hehe [04:43] I didn't even rage once either [04:44] since I switched to graveyard, I've cut my drive down from 1-1/2 hours to about 40 minutes on the 10 [04:44] slava_dp, what kernel version will you use with ext4? [04:45] maxote, stock 13.0. should be ok, copy on write should be patched by now. [04:46] how many systems are running ext4 without problems? [04:46] using curl to update your facebook stauts is too involved. not passing on bsd fortune cookies for my own wit for me :( [04:46] I've been using reiserfs for about 5 years now [04:46] haven't tried ext4 yet [04:47] reiserfs: the filesystem that operates on DEATH [04:47] (sorry, never can resist) [04:47] maxote, Zordra- was using ext4, alie- too, volkerdi also, since it's default :) [04:47] ext4 ain't sable enough yet IMO [04:47] *stable [04:47] linXea: excuse my bluntness... but you are wrong [04:48] stability is not the issue [04:48] ext4 works fine with the default 2.6.29.6 kernel here [04:48] it lacks me a little step into ext4's stability [04:48] the ONLY issue is developers using shorcuts that ext3 never exposed [04:49] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:50] i wanted to know the number of systems that run ext4 without problems, and to see the kind of problems that ext4 failed in some of these systems, and if they're or not grave after of recovering them. [04:50] My official opnion is that standard root FSes are best on ext4.. for larger storage FSes then XFS [04:51] you need a good reason (and there are some) for running other FSes than thoe [04:51] *those [04:51] inhmo, ext4 compete against xfs, both require UPS [04:52] well, _all_ fs's require a UPS for proper operation, just some are better at failover than others [04:52] uh.. buh [04:52] >ext2 is your only concern with UPS [04:53] otherwise you should have a backup of your data anyway [04:54] i think that e2fstools provides ext4's fsck [04:54] I read that JFS2 doesnt need UPS [04:54] x802 (n=jubei@cpe-98-155-140-177.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [04:55] it's main adventage to XFS [04:55] alkos333_2 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:55] does anybodu tried JSF? [04:55] briefly, ext2 and JFS2 don't need UPS, ext3, ext4, XFS need UPS, what about reiser3? [04:56] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:56] raiserfs as far as i know desnt need [04:56] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-152-125.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [04:57] maxote: what ARE you talking about? [04:57] I use raiserfs since I use slack (about 7 years) and it never break down [04:57] then, i belief that it's better to stay in reiserfs v3 [04:57] you are drivelling [04:57] you just said that you dont need a UPS on ekt2, but you do on ext3 [04:58] yeah ext2 also need [04:58] while a say again you dont *need* a UPS for a filesystem, ekt2 is the one where a power outage will almost certainsly cause data loss [04:58] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [04:59] if you are gonna buy a UPS cause it matters *that* much.. all you need is a backup [04:59] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [04:59] UPS is required if the machine must stay up, if the power must be clean [04:59] mmm I love filesystems that murder the files then try to hide it by taking the passenger seat out of the car and leaving bits and pieces drowning in the water used to wash it out [04:59] OR if you cannot leso even 3 minutes of data (financial transactions) [04:59] otherwise Get A Backup [05:00] *lose [05:00] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [05:01] the problem is that UPS's time is 5 minutes, i'm sleeping, and the PC was doing intensive I/O operations (e.g. compressing, looking for, etc.), i'm afraid of massive data loss. [05:01] uhh.. FUD much? [05:02] i'm afraid financial servers stay at professional places with private energy agregators [05:02] not to mention most UPSes can send a shutdown to the server [05:02] so no ups problem [05:02] ktos: fail [05:02] ktos: you dont know much about enterprise it seems [05:02] no I dont ;0 [05:02] ktos: theres a lot of critical financial crap running on WinNT Workstation [05:03] wind farms, that's what i expect they're powered by, thousands of wind farms. [05:03] haha [05:03] but they are on a UPS and run RAID.. so the admins never have to eat their own arse [05:03] esp because.. and ill say it again.. [05:03] spiko (i=1000@89.212.13.243) joined ##slackware. [05:03] that is why I am not gonna be admin :P [05:03] they run good backup strategies [05:04] anyone's firefox also not working on -current ? [05:04] spiko: mines fine [05:04] everyone else's too tbh [05:05] weird... brb [05:05] lol [05:05] spiko (i=1000@89.212.13.243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:06] yeah [05:07] redtricycle (n=redtricy@32.158.153.123) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [05:09] reiserfs has issues with power failures also due to some directory operations not being synchronous [05:09] ckt1g3r2 (n=ckt1g3r2@bl4-146-229.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:09] ckt1g3r2 (n=ckt1g3r2@bl4-146-229.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Client Quit [05:10] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-229.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:10] spiko (i=1000@89-212-13-243.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [05:11] also doesn't play nice with multi-core systems :\ [05:14] check out the irony here http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lpic1-v3-103-2/index.html [05:14] scroll down to listing 2 [05:14] spiko (i=1000@89-212-13-243.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:14] and remember this is a write up about text processing [05:14] ROFL [05:14] nice [05:14] ok - hope someone's not trying to cut/paste that :) [05:14] haha [05:16] spiko (i=1000@89.212.13.243) joined ##slackware. [05:16] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@194.65.138.120) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:19] even if they're not trying to cut/paste... lets say some ubuntard goes there.. next thing you'll see is a post on linuxquestions.org [05:20] it borked :( [05:20] haha [05:22] x802 (n=jubei@cpe-98-155-140-177.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:23] hi [05:23] ho [05:23] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [05:24] i tried do build metisse, but when i ran it, windows didn't even want to move... [05:27] ayone have issues with getting pidgin to make sound? [05:28] Zordrak: Are you talking about event sounds or voice/video sounds? [05:28] event [05:28] not here, they work [05:28] hm [05:29] ogex (n=ogex@125.165.49.49) left irc: "Leaving" [05:32] haven't tried sound yet so don't know [05:32] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [05:34] Blikjeham (n=Blikjeha@reson.soleus.nu) joined ##slackware. [05:35] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "Leaving" [05:36] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:36] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@85.244.116.183) joined ##slackware. [05:36] re; is ther any benefit to making /var mode=750? [05:37] Quiznos: not really [05:37] why? [05:37] in fact t would probably be counter-productive [05:37] again why? [05:37] :) [05:38] i want to keep creeps out [05:38] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-198-4.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [05:38] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [05:38] depends heavily on what you run and how you run it.. but why would you is the question [05:38] protect logs and other files [05:38] eg processes running as nobody for security purposes may still need read access to things [05:39] as world? [05:39] what about /var/run [05:39] 750 [05:39] no less no more [05:39] instead of 755 [05:39] any process that is running as "nobody" may still want to access the pidfilres to know whether they are already running [05:40] i've seen that answer; it doesnt help; who needs xx5 access? [05:40] Quiznos: its just a bad idea.. let me put it this way.. if Pat thought it should be 750.. it would be alread [05:40] Daemons [05:40] pat isnt running my system. [05:40] leave him out ot it [05:40] Running as Nobody [05:41] nobody is not in any groups [05:41] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [05:41] which means the only perms that apply are world [05:41] so 750 denies nobody daemons access [05:41] so they break [05:42] ty [05:42] why does firefox 3.5 run if i comment libsafe from ld.so.preload, and does not run if i don't? [05:42] the point is.. anything you need to protect in var should be protected by its own perms.. not a global lockdown of var [05:43] spiko: ldd `slocate firefox-bin` [05:43] k [05:44] Zordrak, what should i look for ? [05:44] spiko: have you tried safe-mode btw... [05:44] to rule out extensions [05:44] I would use "ldd $(slocate firefox-bin)" comments have been backticks are deprecated [05:44] Zordrak, yes, i deleted my profile [05:45] spiko: | grep "not found" [05:47] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl4-146-229.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [05:47] Zordrak, all the files that are not found are found in firefox's folder [05:48] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.25.166) joined ##slackware. [05:51] millax (n=millax@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. 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[06:00] i removed libsafe [06:00] it caused problems with ff 3.5 [06:00] so ,no xmpp for slack, is that? [06:01] you dont need slackbuild to make something [06:01] Quiznos, i didn't iirc [06:01] spiko # it [06:02] does ext4 play with multicore ? [06:02] Quiznos, yeah... i had to because ff 3.5 didn't start if i did not [06:02] spiko do you know why? [06:02] then i ran LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libc.so.6 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox [06:02] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [06:02] Quiznos, no, i can not read strace [06:03] Quiznos, and that was the last debug attempt [06:03] you should learn, but ok [06:03] millax (n=millax@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff71c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: "leaving" [06:05] ktos: I'm using it on a dual core, but it's not a heavy-duty server [06:07] alisonken1noc: :) [06:08] Quiznos, I can pastebin the strace if you're interested? [06:09] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. [06:10] ;< [06:11] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-119-38.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:11] i see there is /usr/include/zlib.h... and configure can't detect gzopen();< [06:13] (can not delect gzopen with -lz compile opt.) [06:13] *detect [06:15] Kaapa (n=Somethin@85.244.116.183) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:15] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [06:15] paissad-hp (n=paissad@108.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:17] oh, thanks for help ;P [06:20] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-199-96.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:20] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [06:24] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [06:24] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-119-38.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:24] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [06:24] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [06:24] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [06:25] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) left irc: "adios amigos" [06:25] stop talking all at once [06:26] sorry.. i'll shut up [06:26] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [06:28] geno_ (n=geno@125-236-157-40.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) left irc: "Leaving" [06:29] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:30] anyone has a good example firewall script for a single machine (server)? [06:35] not anymore [06:37] v4nelle (n=van@adsl148-181.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:38] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [06:40] so nobody uses a firewall? :-| [06:40] mine are on a router in my old job [06:41] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:41] go on, ssh there and give me a copy =) [06:41] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [06:41] :) [06:41] except I disabled ssh also :) [06:42] (from outside) [06:42] ohh... that's a problem then :) [06:43] have to wait till I get back over there (still have a key, though, since he want's me to continue helping with his IT stuff) [06:45] in case you remember about it when you are there, please do grab a copy for me. i'd be most grateful :) [06:46] slava_dp: this is my firewall/router, but you can adjust accordingly http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/FzOfYd81.html [06:47] there is also a lot of GUIs for iptabels on sf.net [06:47] I love UK [06:48] alienBOB has one on his wiki also [06:48] chopp, that's a long one. thanks a lot! [06:48] slava_dp: you're welcome [06:49] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/efg/ [06:52] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [06:56] oddsock (n=me@adsl-12-135.teol.net) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.11.3 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [06:57] Action: ktos wants to already live in England :( [07:00] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [07:03] Kamel (n=1@adsl-178-199-150.jax.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:05] Kamel (n=1@adsl-178-199-150.jax.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [07:05] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: [07:08] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) joined ##slackware. [07:08] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [07:10] taper (n=taper@123.88.212.116) joined ##slackware. [07:10] whats with connie anyways? second box or replacement box? [07:10] taper (n=taper@123.88.212.116) left ##slackware ("‚»"). [07:11] Action: Zordrak has a moment's downtime while rebuilding kernel with DRBD patch [07:12] alienBOB: are you around? [07:14] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-kpwiicmbjjmefuom) joined ##slackware. [07:14] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:15] firefox wont connect to comcast's https either; yesterday i learned that opera wont connect [07:16] "no common secure algos in common [07:17] i dont think this is my problem [07:18] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) left irc: "Leaving" [07:19] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) joined ##slackware. [07:19] can i get a ping pls? [07:20] PurpleSmurf (i=0@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left ##slackware. [07:23] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:24] this sux [07:24] i'm effectively locked out of comcast to setup a website [07:24] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:29] hi guys do we have tmpwatch on slackware 12 [07:32] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [07:32] john_dee (n=id@93-81-141-157.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:34] no [07:35] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [07:36] ÁoSlackwarenˆFj [07:36] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "hard reboot" [07:36] \o/Slackware\o/ [07:37] (ktos, you really love england? :o ) [07:37] yes and I am not japanesse man :P [07:38] where are you from? [07:38] just used translator [07:38] stupid cottage called poland [07:38] how to check if acceleration is enabled? [07:38] still, I can't understand how you can fancy living in england :D [07:38] alisonken1noc: which acceleration? [07:38] laptop video chip [07:39] well, does it lag? :D [07:39] england is great country, beautiful accent, nice nation, great culture [07:39] and great humour [07:39] since I installed -current and don't have gkrellm running yet, the only indication is the eyecandy window exploder on close. couple of times it appears to pause slightly during animation [07:40] alisonken1noc: think you can try with mplayer -vo xvideo (or xv or xvmc) for instance [07:40] plays movies ok - at least avi and dvi movies :) [07:40] (mplayer) [07:40] ktos: france's better, much better accent, nation, culture, *FOOD*, *ALCOHOLS* [07:40] :) [07:40] alisonken1noc: and setting -vo ? [07:40] thought I remember seeing somewhere checking x output and looking for "Acceleration enabled" somewhere [07:40] No, je deteste le francais accent :P [07:41] girls love it and you'd take it -_- [07:41] francais poeple are closed [07:42] I leart french in school ,I dont like this language [07:42] why do everyone hate me? ='( [07:42] Camarade_Tux: I like you [07:42] Camarade_Tux: I just say about general nation and country [07:42] france and italy is nice for holiday [07:43] alisonken1noc, glxinfo | grep rendering [07:43] but england is my choice for live [07:43] you'll change your mind when you'll be stuck with english food -_- [07:43] dang - using the Mesa gl [07:44] who said english food ain't good? :) [07:44] GL_VERSION: 1.3 Mesa 7.5 [07:44] poland would be good country if germany join polish territory [07:44] joined* [07:44] theblackerbox (n=sammo@92.24.10.7) joined ##slackware. [07:45] unless it's stupid cottage [07:45] although it does also say "GL_RENDERER: Mesa DRI Radeon 20061018 AGP 4x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE NO-TCL" [07:45] slava_dp: I did :D [07:45] OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM 4.1.3002 x86/MMX/SSE2 [07:45] even english people admit it ;) [07:46] hmmm - then it looks like acceleration is not enabled yet [07:46] apn (n=apn@194.217.4.175) joined ##slackware. [07:46] Camarade_Tux: of course france is heaven in comparision to poland [07:46] Camarade_Tux: especially Carcasonne [07:46] ktos: or vice versa [07:46] alisonken1noc, why do you think so? if it says direct rendering is on, then it's on. [07:47] apn: not, definetly [07:47] ktos: I prefer Poland. Any time. [07:47] ok - take your word for it then [07:47] in Carcasone you can't wear any religious signs. it's really great idea [07:47] at least the cube rotates smoothly [07:47] err, you can [07:47] Camarade_Tux: really? [07:48] I heart you cannot [07:48] v4nelle (n=van@adsl148-181.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:48] ktos: maybe in school you can't as much but everywhere else, you can [07:48] still very good idea [07:48] ktos: why? [07:49] in polish school there are huge crucifixes in every class room [07:49] ktos: isn't 90 some % of Poland catholic? [07:49] nheco (n=nheco@201-66-177-238.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [07:49] apn: defined as, but only 40% goes to church [07:50] but in democratic country it is very bad practise [07:50] I am atheist and it offend me [07:50] ktos, man, you're in the EU. why do i hear you complaining? you shouldn't. really. [07:50] ktos: rule of majority. If majority wants religious insignia in school classes, that's the way it should be. [07:50] ktos: beside, the church is embedded in Polish culture. [07:51] the problem is majority is stupid [07:51] church rules the country [07:51] and majority let it to [07:51] that is the problem [07:51] ktos: right. It's better to erase national identity for sake of... right, sake of what? [07:51] ktos: I didn't notice that. [07:52] apn: because you are in mojority, probably [07:52] mojority, huh? [07:52] the most mojo, maybe? [07:52] majority* [07:52] :) [07:53] ktos: I was in Poland for a year, as an exchange student. I loved the depth of culture. There is nothing wrong with it. I never realized the church is so involved in politics. [07:53] identification with church which killed bilions of poeple is not nice for me, [07:53] I can see millions, but billions? [07:53] ktos: what about identification with church that saved millions of people, including your own nation? [07:54] yes, millions, mistake* [07:54] ktos: there is a reason why Poles identify themselves with the church. Do you know the history of your own nation? [07:54] apn: I would really prefer to be under germany annexation [07:55] yes I know [07:55] and I ashem for this history [07:55] yarg [07:55] ktos: really? [07:55] yes [07:55] ktos: I thought that something you should be proud of. [07:56] no, definetly not [07:56] apn: from Battle of Vienna to WWII [07:56] ktos, you don't know what you are asking for. [07:56] if you were here year you didnt get to know true about this country [07:56] apn: Really... [07:57] ktos, move. [07:58] slava_dp: when Wilhem II was in my country treatet it as one of lands, buildings which he built stay still here. hospitals, schools, train stations [07:58] yes, I am gonna to [07:58] without "to" * [07:59] Wilhelm II made more in few years in my city than communist goverment throught 80 years [07:59] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:59] that is because german poeple are ordered [07:59] ktos, when i said that you don't have a clue, i meant the nazis. they won't have left a single pole in your country. so think again. [07:59] polish poeple think only about stole sth [08:00] s/won't/wouldn't/ [08:00] slava_dp: I said about annexation not about second war [08:00] you can't separate one from each other [08:00] k. enough talk, back to work. [08:00] (or some sentence like that) [08:01] work for me too [08:01] and me [08:01] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:03] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [08:03] conclusion is that proverd: "history is prostitute of all sciences" [08:03] every country and ever politican view see it different [08:04] you said you were going back to work. [08:04] ktos: "history is prostitue of all political bodies" [08:04] :) [08:05] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:06] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:10] Nick change: theblackerbox -> theblackbox [08:13] history is Memory. [08:15] too bad it's RAM and not disk memory [08:16] Action: theblackbox is still using punchcrads ..... damn... one got corrupt [08:16] yea [08:16] subject to revisionism [08:17] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/freenode/x-nqihmezwhkemspbt) left irc: "Page closed" [08:18] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. 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[08:36] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [08:39] SonLightInn (n=user@61.43.249.4) joined ##slackware. [08:39] hey is there a way to deny users in xfce / KDM the ability to log back out? [08:42] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [08:42] http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5404590&start=0 [08:43] hehe [08:44] can you guys think of any other way to break out of a slackware install? so far i have make and gcc chmod o-x so only root can do it, su is disabled for anyone but wheel group (they're not part of wheel group), KDM auto-logs in the user, and they're not part of power group [08:44] oddsock (n=oddsock@dynamic-250-205-23-217.broadband.blic.net) joined ##slackware. [08:44] tewmten: :P [08:45] SonLightInn: they have physical access? [08:45] yes [08:45] i can't really change that [08:46] cat "ok, you got root, was that funny?" >> /root/.bach_profile [08:46] s/bach/bash/ [08:46] bah, echo [08:47] permission denied [08:47] he :p [08:47] i knew it would be ya turd 8-P [08:47] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [08:48] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [08:48] so far i also have it set up so that LILO gives a 3 second delay before booting up the machine, which is init level 4 default into KDM which logs in the limited user account automagically [08:49] and once i got the setup perfect i rsync'd to /etc/skel and i have a hidden command in the startup sequence that rsyncs the user's /home back to what i set it as [08:49] Stanto (n=Stanto@82.39.229.89) joined ##slackware. [08:50] SonLightInn, if you're making a kiosk (i assume you do), why do you even need kdm? [08:50] only to auto-login the user [08:50] heh [08:51] because i can't figure out how to prevent the user from logging out [08:51] but since this is an nvidia video card but using vesa driver, luckily logout causes X to freeze, meaning they can't get out hehe [08:51] so far the only way "in" is to control+alt+F6 but you need to know root's password [08:51] you can't su or sudo as this user at all, can't make, can't gcc/cc [08:51] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:52] can't read anything in /etc/rc.d/* [08:52] SonLightInn, change #x1:4:respawn:/etc/rc.d/rc.4 -> x1:4:respawn:/bin/su - screen -c startx in /etc/inittab. and there you go. no need for kdm. x will respawn when they log out. [08:52] change "screen" to the restricted username. [08:53] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [08:54] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.38) joined ##slackware. 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[09:05] The-Croupier: hola [09:05] almeister (n=almeiste@visualserver.org) left ##slackware ("rebooting..."). [09:07] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl7-76-91.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:07] does http://slackware.osuosl.org/ have a rsync server ? [09:07] yes [09:08] Dominian, do you know the url, i can't find it [09:08] please [09:08] hiya Dominian [09:08] hows it going fellas? [09:08] rsync://ftp.osuosl.org/slackware/slackware-current/ [09:09] change -current to whatever version you need [09:09] Thom1: not bad.. you? [09:09] Dominian: something i always wondered, how come everytime you speak in the channel, someone will say something stupid? [09:09] Dominian, rsync://rsync.osuosl.org/slackware/ ? [09:09] I bring out the best in people.. [09:09] er [09:09] its like a noobfarm magnet [09:09] he attracks the noobfarm crowd [09:09] Thom1: .... [09:09] Thom1: I just told you what the rsync url was [09:09] oh, excuse me, i've not seen your url [09:10] Dominian: my point prooven [09:10] ;) [09:10] aye [09:10] Dominian: do you have admin on slackofftopic? [09:10] Dominian, mine works too [09:10] alisonken1noc: I think.. you mean #slackware-ot? [09:10] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:10] ##slackofftopic [09:10] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [09:10] alisonken1noc: he definately has admin in #noobfarm [09:10] er.. ##slackware-ot [09:10] :) [09:10] alisonken1noc: ummm dunno [09:11] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:11] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:11] alisonken1noc: no I don't.. TwinReverb does [09:11] there used to be a ##slackware-ot [09:11] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [09:11] I wanna go home [09:12] sorry - just a a blip on my client. **NOTE TO SELF: /exit closes everything [09:12] :) [09:12] slackytude: I don't anna go to school ='( [09:13] anyway, last night winter was being a nuisance and could have used a ban [09:13] ah [09:14] jawix (n=jawix@195.180.9.202) left irc: "leaving" [09:15] say no winter, say yes to summer! [09:15] /exit ? [09:16] well, gone, laters [09:16] z [09:16] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-236-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:17] pupiteee (n=p@77.46.164.177) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:17] slackytude: then just do it! go home! [09:18] alisonken1noc: odd.. didn't know ##slackofftopic existed [09:18] considering there's a ##slackware-ot [09:18] although it doesn't appear anyone is in it [09:18] ##slackware-ot must be on a different server. I'm the only one there when I join it [09:18] lol [09:18] bunch of peopple in ##slackofftopic, though [09:19] alisonken1noc: yeah.. its not been used in a while [09:19] ##slackware-ot is a registered trademark. [09:19] kr_eten (n=quick@93.123.37.18) joined ##slackware. [09:19] pupit: Its an "about" channel and in the proper name space.. its fine. [09:20] i dont mind Dominian [09:20] hi [09:20] ho [09:20] hi [09:20] ho [09:20] hi [09:20] it's off to work we go [09:20] you blew it [09:20] :P [09:20] what can be done remotely when someone deletes his /usr/bin? :) [09:21] not a whole lot [09:21] reinstall [09:21] actually, pkgtools might have enough in /sbin and /bin to reinstall [09:21] kr_eten: rm -rf / ? [09:21] reboot from usb/cd and reinstall base packages [09:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Gs4xGw1Eg&feature=sub lol! [09:21] well i thought about a variant with a raw socket and transferring wget and scp and recover the system [09:22] you can grab a list of slackware related items with a nice "grep usr/bin/ /var/log/packages/*" (and maybe some cut + uniq call) and do upgradepkg --reinstall on that list [09:22] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl7-76-91.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:22] the problem is not how to do it, but how to do it remotely :) [09:23] agentc0re, can't [09:23] the physical access helps :) [09:23] $( grep usr/bin/ /var/log/packages/* | cut -d ':' -f 1 | cut -d '/' -f 5 | uniq ) [09:23] maybe use slackpkg on a list like that [09:24] mm, slackpkg will probably need wget, which is dead [09:25] well the plan B will not work because gcc is in /usr/bin too :) [09:26] so is, scp, rsync, wget..mmph [09:26] i am curious why i can not open an ssh connection to the server. sshd is up and running and actually if it was deleted it would be too. but "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" pops on try [09:27] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl5-180-229.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [09:27] slackytude: pfft.. Don't let the man bring you down! [09:27] slackytude: DO IT! [09:28] the problem is more about a curiosity. this is my brother's system and he will have physical access tonight so could fix this issue [09:35] kr_eten: you have a remote shell open? [09:36] yes [09:36] but not exactly :) my brother does :) [09:36] but yes there is alive ssh connection [09:37] agentc0re, noes! [09:37] and i do not understand why new cant be made (sshd is up and working), but i am not very advanced user [09:38] Well, you *might* can cat a binary on another system, highlight the output, and then cat << EOF > /usr/bin/thatbinary ; paste in the remote shell; chmod 0755 /usr/bin/thatbinary [09:39] how do i delete to EOF in vim? [09:39] this sounds crazy, the text output of a binary is not exactly the binary [09:39] slava_dp, [09:39] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [09:39] dG [09:40] Argh..my keyboard has a rattle to it when I type [09:40] It's driving me nuts [09:40] thanks kr_eten [09:40] kr_eten: theoretically, it will work. We use "cat file > /usr/bin/file ; chmod 0755 /usr/bin/file" all the time in build scripts. [09:40] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [09:40] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-193-180.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[10:53] i gots a problem [10:53] kozandr (n=kozandr@81.95.131.133) left irc: No route to host [10:53] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [10:54] i am trying to run my slackware drive off of the 1 master channel [10:54] i gots an answer - right, wrong or indifferent [10:54] and i get a kernal panic, not syncing [10:54] the slack drive is actually sdd1 [10:54] i updated lilo.conf and fstab [10:54] but it still isnt working... [10:54] generic, custom or huge? [10:54] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@190.176.158.91) joined ##slackware. [10:54] generic [10:54] whatever default is [10:55] >.< [10:55] if it's generic, did you install an initrd? [10:55] hmm, i just did a full install [10:55] and what does your lilo.conf show for initrd? [10:55] slack x64 [10:55] alisonken1noc: its huge not generic [10:56] let me boot off the disc again and chroot [10:56] has anyone tried empathy/telepathy yet? [10:57] k im in [10:57] let me check the lilo.conf [10:57] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: Client Quit [10:58] at the moment, i have just changed root = /dev/sda1 to root = /dev/sdd1 [10:58] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:58] more like root=/dev/sdd [10:58] you did run lilo afterwards? [10:59] slackytude: yes [10:59] ugh i hate software that is released as a binary for everything but slack and then they treat source-compilers as mind-readers [10:59] er, sorry, sdd1 is right [10:59] ViN86, and what kernel is it now? [10:59] what does boot= show? [11:00] omg DUR [11:00] root should be the partition, not the drive [11:00] samuelig (n=samuelig@253.pool85-57-144.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [11:00] boot shows /dev/sda still [11:00] change that to sdd? [11:00] ._. [11:00] sdd1 <- don't forget partition number for the root [11:00] then rerun lilo [11:00] alisonken1noc: got that one, need to update boot [11:00] it's still /dev/sda heh [11:01] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [11:01] k that should be good right? [11:01] that'll learn ya [11:01] i updated fstab [11:01] ok time to go home [11:01] alisonken1noc, O_o [11:01] alisonken1noc, dont leave me! [11:02] nooooo! [11:02] if boot and root are pointing to sdd then you should get sugar [11:02] I'll return. I promise. [11:02] noooooo [11:02] alisonken1noc, ^-^ [11:02] I wanna go home too [11:02] b e a utiful [11:02] works now :D [11:02] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:03] thx everyone [11:03] *sniff* [11:03] hey stop your blubberin [11:05] ViN, i told you this the first time around! :> [11:05] lol i missed the boot man! [11:06] that little line snuck by me at the top [11:06] i got the fstab and the root in lilo.conf [11:06] sidmario_ (n=xxx@189-18-234-150.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:06] you're battin' 667 [11:06] so i was 66% listening heh [11:06] haha jinx [11:06] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) joined ##slackware. [11:06] Nick change: sidmario_ -> Guest16068 [11:07] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) joined ##slackware. [11:09] kator (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:09] ffs [11:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:12] huh? [11:13] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@82.155.201.63) joined ##slackware. [11:13] eh, nothing.. ;/ [11:14] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl5-183-90.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:14] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [11:15] Kaapa (n=Somethin@82.155.201.63) left irc: Client Quit [11:16] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:17] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:17] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:20] Kaapa (n=Somethin@85.243.166.42) joined ##slackware. [11:22] Stanto (n=Stanto@82.39.229.89) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [11:23] on slack 64, can i install 32-bit packages or no? [11:23] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [11:24] ViN86: If you have i386 libraries you should be fine. [11:24] lf4: k thx [11:25] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:27] i keep getting an error with makepkg: Can't make output package in current directory [11:28] whats that all aboot? [11:28] permissions are there since im root [11:28] try "makepkg ../package-blahblah.tgz [11:28] ViN86: aboot? [11:28] thumbs: canadian day for me [11:28] ViN86: are you trying to make fun of us Canadians? [11:28] yeppers [11:28] ViN86: we don't say 'aboot' [11:29] i know i have met a lot of canadians [11:29] and not one has said that word lol [11:29] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [11:29] thumbs: i havent any of them say "eh" either [11:29] *havent heard [11:29] has anyone dealt with heartbeat recently? for no apparant reason they have dumped all normal standards.. eg srcdir isnt heartbeat-2.1.4, it's Heartbeat-STABLE-2-1-STABLE-2.1.4 [11:30] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.58.163.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:30] thirce`: thx that worked [11:30] doesnt ship with a configure script it has to be *created* [11:30] etc [11:30] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [11:30] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89AE1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:30] Zordrak, so I guess they have a unstable stable? [11:30] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@190.176.158.91) joined ##slackware. [11:30] Zordrak: eww .. that sounds positively fugly. [11:31] thumbs: i apologize, didn't know it would offend you so much [11:31] ccfreak2k: worst thing is.. im not even on the unstable stable [11:31] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.9) joined ##slackware. [11:31] im on the stable stable [11:31] even though they dont seem to document what the frigging difference is [11:32] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.112.195) joined ##slackware. [11:34] Hi there. Does anyone have an idea on how to mirror an SVN repo on a server with only root as user (anon checkout is possible on the primary repo)? Do I need to create a normal user first? Goal is providing an public FTP copy of that repo. [11:35] samuelig (n=samuelig@253.pool85-57-144.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:36] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m90-137-86-228.cust.tele2.se) joined ##slackware. [11:38] Im actually gonna have to go back to 2.0.8 when there was last a slackbuild just to get this bitch going [11:38] tffaB [11:39] not to mention the pretentiousness or renaming themselves from Heartbeat to Linux-HA [11:39] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [11:41] if the main source for qt4 is down, anyone have another? [11:42] wget http://get.qtsoftware.com/qt/source/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.1.tar.bz2 [11:42] 2009-08-27 08:42:12 ERROR 400: Bad Request. [11:42] got that since last night [11:44] alienBOB: would love to poke you about Hearbeat if you're around anytime soon.. it's giving me nightmares [11:45] ViN86 (i=ViN86@18.95.6.169) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:45] ViN86_ (i=1000@SYDNEYPACIFIC-SEVEN-O-SEVEN.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [11:46] Nick change: ViN86_ -> ViN86 [11:46] Kamel (n=1@adsl-178-199-150.jax.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:46] samuelig (n=samuelig@253.pool85-57-144.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [11:48] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.63.14) left irc: "Leaving." [11:49] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.64.148) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:52] grouper (n=grouper@ip68-105-173-2.ga.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [11:52] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [11:52] mmmm coffee [11:52] is there a 64-bit binary package of qt 4.5 somewhere? [11:52] i don't feel like spending all day compiling it [11:55] Hermann (n=Hermannn@m90-137-86-228.cust.tele2.se) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:57] grouper: good luck pulling the source [11:57] I've been trying for nearly 12 hours [11:57] (well, ok, 7 of those were spent sleeping) [11:58] any way to run wine on 64 bit slack? [11:58] briareus: those 7 count imo [11:58] lol cool [11:58] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:58] lol [11:59] anyone? can i run wine on 64bit slack? [11:59] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [11:59] apn (n=apn@194.217.4.175) left irc: "Master_of_the_universe out" [11:59] ViN86: yes you can but you need to have 32bit compat installed. [11:59] BP{k}: yea i just tried it and it said i cannot build a 32-bit program [12:00] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [12:00] how would i go about doing that... [12:00] please? lol [12:00] ViN86: ftp://anorien.warwick.ac.uk/slamd64/slackware64-current/ <-- containts the 32bit compatibility packages. [12:01] briareus: took me maybe 10 mins to download it [12:01] grouper: I guess slackware64 qt package won't do? [12:01] but now i see that current already has it [12:01] i wanted 4.5 [12:01] so i'm in luck [12:01] BP{k}: im a complete noob, how do i install them? [12:02] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [12:02] grouper: from qtconfig: This program uses Qt version 4.5.1 [12:02] yes, it's already installed. :-) [12:02] ViN86: go read slackbook chapter 18 [12:02] k thx [12:03] ejal__ (n=ejal@89-139-188-168.bb.netvision.net.il) joined ##slackware. [12:04] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-61-43.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:04] <|alisonken1churc> BP{k}: Hey - do you know if there's a slackbuild for pidgin-otr for -current? [12:05] Nick change: |alisonken1churc -> alisonken1church [12:05] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:08] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@79.131.213.239) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:08] BP{k}: 18 you said? [12:08] if theres a slackbuild somewhere it will work on any slack version, its the pidgin version that might matter [12:08] thanks [12:09] with the upgrade to kde4, was wondering if there might be a difference [12:09] qt4 v. qt3, for example [12:09] pidgin is irrelevant to qt [12:10] ViN86: yes. 18. [12:10] aka "Slackware Package Management" [12:10] well, I've seen there are soe differences between qt3 and qt4 api's [12:10] yea im reading it [12:10] some [12:10] alisonken1church: I don't think there is, have you tried ammending the 12.2 build? [12:10] alisonken1church: well yeah, but they dont matter for applications not using qt :P [12:10] not yet, was checkig to see if there was -current version yet [12:11] what does pdigin[-otr] use, then? [12:11] gtk? [12:11] btw alisonken1church why do you need otr? slackware's pidgin already includes encryption IIRC [12:11] the people at the office use otr [12:12] it includes this http://pidgin-encrypt.sourceforge.net/ [12:12] BP{k}: it's still not apparent what i am supposed to do, download the packages? make packages? install from the site? [12:12] so unless the built-in encryption does otr as well, then it would be a problem [12:12] oh [12:12] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [12:12] no idea about that [12:12] grouper: today? [12:12] yea - mixed environment with linux/mac/ms/sun machines [12:12] grouper: Every time I try, either from the weblink from slackbuilds, directly with wget or whatever, its Error 400 [12:12] os orgy! [12:13] :) [12:13] s/sun/opensolaris [12:13] ViN86: *sigh*. okay 1) READ the slackbook 2) figure a way to download the packages 3) while 2) do; READ the slackbook 3) install the package 4) if need help with 3; then read the slackbook :) [12:13] ViN86: seriously, how to download and install shit should be pretty much basic knowledge. [12:13] /end [12:14] does this work for anyone? wget http://get.qtsoftware.com/qt/source/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.1.tar.bz2 [12:14] BP{k}: you could have just said download and install... [12:14] .... [12:14] yes alison, it uses gtk+ [12:14] ViN86: But that's what you were ASKING how to do!! [12:14] mancha: thanks, haven't dug too deep into it yet [12:15] spiko (i=1000@89.212.13.243) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:15] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [12:15] BP{k}: im a complete noob, how do i install them? [12:15] sorry i wasnt clear... [12:15] haha [12:15] s/noob/tool [12:15] ViN86: but well done, you are now in the first place for my prestigous award of the day :) [12:15] ViN86: Read the slackbook. it explains it in there. Then check out slackbuilds.org [12:15] briareus: a good trick is that gentoo's mirrors have every tarball that they support (about every software on the planet); check there (distfiles.gentoo.org) [12:16] thanks thrice` [12:16] thrice`: did that command happen to start for you?> [12:16] I didn't ry [12:16] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [12:16] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [12:16] ok [12:16] debian does as well [12:17] if its 400 it ain't a kosher url, get the right onw [12:17] stop tying to make a 400 into a noerr [12:19] ah, thanks this workshttp://get.qt.nokia.com/qt/source/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.2.tar.gz [12:19] so, the slackbuild is using a dead mirror [12:19] ejal_ (n=ejal@DSL217-132-39-185.bb.netvision.net.il) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:19] that looks better since nokia bought up qt [12:19] because that 400 url I was trying is copied from the slackbuild (indeed, even used by sbopkg) [12:19] that is a really good sign, btw [12:20] I didn't know nokia bought qt [12:20] sometime within the last year or so [12:21] I just emailed the slackbuilder for qt4 notifying him/her of the dead link [12:21] BP{k}: well i wasnt clear, my question should have been which files... [12:22] cool, he/she will appreciate that [12:22] obviously i need gcc 32 compatibility [12:23] all? :P [12:24] Action: BP{k} & [12:26] i guess what's throwing me off is the txz extension [12:26] Emeaudroide (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-103-233.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:27] ViN86: didnt you say you're on 64bit? theres no tgz there.. [12:27] there are very few packages with .tgz [12:27] I've a question: The slackbuild for qt4 wants a .bz2 but the source is now pushed as tar.gz, can or should I modify the slackbuild somehow? [12:27] briareus: you can. [12:27] sahko: oh i didnt know that cause ive been in here for an hour [12:27] ViN86: You're running -current? [12:27] I see this line: tar xvf $CWD/qt-x11-opensource-src-$VERSION.tar.bz2 [12:27] I figure I change that? [12:28] agentc0re|work: yes [12:28] ViN86: And you don't know how to install slackware packages? [12:28] all packages ive seen were tgz [12:28] never saw txz before [12:28] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [12:29] ran slack 9 years ago, now im running 64-bit current [12:29] afaik, txz is a newer extension [12:29] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A75D0B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [12:29] yea google told me that [12:30] txz is the extension slackware uses when using xz compression [12:30] BP{k} now you see why i was confused? [12:30] google knows things [12:31] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-49-207.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [12:31] Nick change: Emeaudroide -> Emeau [12:31] xz has a bit better compression than bzip2 with the extraction time of gzip. but....it takes a $hitload to compress [12:31] mancha = mancha @ twitter? [12:31] yea i saw ppl talking about it taking longer to build on linuxquestions [12:32] errr compress [12:32] Creating qmake. Please wait... (time to go to bed) [12:32] actually xz compression is much better (>10% better) [12:32] but alas, I'm only just got to work [12:33] bri, no. [12:33] Nick change: Guest16068 -> sidmario [12:33] and xz isn't really slower than bzip2 for compression [12:34] and if you set it to get the same compression ratio than bzip2, it's much faster to compress [12:34] It is slower, i have benchmarked it [12:34] Action: Camarade_Tux gonna tar his /opt/webkit [12:34] you're the same fellow who made claims about crippled ntfs-3g yesterday with no benchmarks, right? [12:35] its slower than gzip [12:35] for extraction? yes, too [12:35] mancha: you left a bit too early [12:35] http://www.ntfs-3g.org/performance.html [12:35] Meanwhile the Commercial NTFS-3G Driver focuses on the highest possible theoretical performance on the underlaying hardware architecture on the Linux platform and it provides 10-20 times better performance for instance by much higher throughput and/or much lower CPU utilization. [12:36] fErnandomdx (i=0@189.83.119.39) left irc: "Lost terminal" [12:36] that sounds like it is catering to particular HW platforms, probably for embedded purposes. very different situation. [12:36] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl10-167-39.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:37] as for xz, i have run perosnal bencharks which is what i back my statement with. id love to see yours, can you pastebin the time and cpu util for various configurations of gzip, bzip2, and xz? [12:40] Kaapa (n=Somethin@85.243.166.42) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [12:40] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [12:40] lee__ (n=lee__@wsip-24-249-195-93.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [12:41] mugwort13 (n=mugwort1@pool-71-248-51-61.bltmmd.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:41] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [12:42] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:43] mancha, it could be interpreted either way. without benchmark its just opinion [12:44] all installed [12:44] took 5 sec once i found out about txz files :/ [12:45] now to try installing wine again [12:45] slacky i prefer not to debate this :) but my personal take on "A is slower than B" is that it is either a true fact or incorrect. opinion is not relevant, imho. [12:46] alright .. fresh install 12.2, trying to remember what I need to do to get mc to render properly, anyone? [12:47] mancha, thats what I was trying to say as well [12:47] CmdLnKid (n=xclkx@unaffiliated/jth) left irc: "Command not found." [12:47] then we agree and i am happy since i didn't want any debate heh [12:47] briareus: i downloaded qt4 from nokia, maybe try that? [12:47] e [12:48] isn't mc just a colored text thing? [12:51] mugwort13 (n=mugwort1@pool-71-248-51-61.bltmmd.east.verizon.net) left irc: "[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.1-final for the Atari 2600 today!" [12:52] BP{k}: thx for pointing me to the compatibility packages, despite the grief i got for it... [12:53] wine is compiling now [12:54] grouper: yeah that's where I got it, thanks. I was using the slackbuild's url which is now dead [12:54] what do you need to run from windows? [12:55] i run steam [12:55] oh. what's thats? [12:55] dont really play games, but i use it to chat with ppl [12:55] on windows i have all my games installed [12:55] (* default compression: xz thrice slower to compress, thrice faster to expand than bzip2, 33% better compression, xz -2 nearly twice faster to compress with 10% better compression than bzip2) [12:56] crap. [12:56] I can't compile qt4 because my 512M /tmp is too small [12:56] heh [12:56] bullshit [12:56] happens to me as well [12:56] looks like I might be able to edit the slackbuild for build location too [12:56] why would you limit /tmp ? [12:57] do it in my /music partition [12:57] mancha: why not limit /tmp [12:57] yeah just change /tmp tpo /music [12:57] and decompression is twice as slow as gzip's [12:57] for me, its because /tmp is a ramdisk [12:57] briarious beucase then you can't compile qt4 with default slackbuilds.our turn [12:57] your turn [12:58] not being able to compile something with 512M of space tells me qt4 is just bloated shite [12:58] ok, but you still haven't given a reason for limiting /tmp [12:58] cos its a ramdisk? [12:58] security, mainly. it's just a habit [12:58] how does limiting it make you secure? [12:58] I tend to break up my partitions and its a habit that has served me well in system failures [12:59] I have 15 partitions on this machine, and its a 160GB laptop [12:59] 15 partitions? [12:59] correction, 12. Forgot I reclaimed some for virtual machinery [12:59] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: "inter rete non licet esse spatium vaccuus iuris -jjoeris" [13:00] I have /, /usr, /var, /tmp, /home, /music, /vbox1, /vbox2, /vbox3, /video, and a vault [13:01] i'm trying to run nxagent on slack-current, but it fails with xcb assert : [13:01] nxagent: xcb_io.c:378: _XAllocID: Assertion `ret != inval_id' failed. [13:01] any ideas ? [13:01] i am always curious to hear about people's partition system...there are so many opinions and a few interesting justifications [13:01] well that's the main reason right there: because I can [13:01] heh [13:01] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-kpwiicmbjjmefuom) left irc: [13:01] mancha: mines not interesting [13:01] he has a point [13:02] i can jump off a building but i'll break my legs, so i don't do it [13:02] are you implying multiple partitions can cause bodily harm? ;) [13:02] with linux i restrict to things i can do that i also want to do (for some reason(s)) [13:02] no, just saying "can do it" is not enough for me [13:03] but i accept that it's enough for you. [13:03] Richlv: no, you might try running it under gdb but for that you need the bin not too be stripped which slackware packages do [13:04] ok, back when I was dabbling in secure systems (chroot jails and whatnot), I read a document from an nsa linux guy and he was discussing partition schemes for security. Ihave had the idea ever since then. As for /tmp, the justification was certain processes running amok that would fill /tmp and fail rather than fill a huge monolithic / [13:04] I've had the *habit* ever since then [13:04] I emulated his partition scheme on every machine since [13:05] not really thinking about it, and except for bloatastic qt4 today, its rarely an issue [13:05] yep, limiting /tmp is wise if you dont have quotas and several users [13:05] briar, yes, i've read some of these and they do make sense. but there are other ways like quota systems. also these das, with mcls you have many more options that don't require partitioninig things...but i see your point [13:05] and exploding /tmp would suck [13:05] Camarade_Tux, yeah. google also gives several with similar problem, but no solution [13:05] "nsa linux guy" sounds cool. for linux ;) [13:06] also makes nsa seem slightly less evil [13:06] firefox, you SUCK ! [13:06] penguins and whatnot [13:06] and wine is installed :) [13:06] Camarade_Tux, for a moment I read fire|bird there [13:06] NSA uses linux, how could you hate them? look! there goes a cute penguin there! [13:06] slackytude: noooooo! ='( [13:06] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [13:07] slackytude: oh, misunderstood [13:07] slackytude: actually, yeeaaahhhh :D [13:07] there also used to be a time that most rootkits installed their binaries in /tmp or some other place like /var/log or /var/tmp [13:07] no more fire|bird [13:07] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [13:07] mancha, thats why its wise to have it set to noexecute [13:07] making /tmp fertile ground for bad stuff [13:08] y0 fire|bird [13:08] slacky, absolutely [13:08] right on cue [13:08] y0 slackytude [13:08] fire|bird: slackytude just said you sucked :D [13:08] how goes? [13:08] ^^ [13:08] fire|bird sucks! [13:08] nah! [13:08] lies [13:08] "friggens also makes sailors blush, 2.8% of the time." LOL [13:08] Camarade_Tux: I wouldn't expect that from him, but superGear on the other hand...... :P [13:08] y0 agentc0re|work [13:08] hey mancha [13:08] sup [13:08] fire|bird: :P [13:09] agentc0re|work: I got slack64 on the lappy :) [13:09] fire|bird, well, besides that fact the Im merely a souless slave of my work, devoid of any emotions or dream, Im quite well. How about you? [13:09] fire|bird: nice. [13:09] re fire, you were being talked about then you appeared as if you had esp [13:09] finally gave up on that windows vm stuff? [13:09] Hi fire|bird I missed you [13:09] mancha: haha, perfect timing then. :) [13:09] even tho you suck! [13:09] j/k [13:09] crap. I can't set the slackbuild to my /music partition, since the qt4 lib compile itself is filling /tmp and erroring. shit on a popsickle stick. [13:09] agentc0re|work: yeah, so I dual booted, windows is still there and then a nice 80G partition for slack64 :D [13:10] remount /music as /tmp [13:10] I think I read a way to loop or mount a partition so that it sees another partition as part of itself [13:10] fire|bird: cool. [13:10] slackytude: there's that too [13:10] windows is evil [13:10] bad fire|bird [13:10] slackytude: how do I umount /tmp when it always seems in use? [13:10] Richlv: which libX11 version? [13:10] i'm going to paste this link again :P everyone should get an account [13:10] briareus: I wish i had some of those popsickle's today... I'd givem to my users. [13:10] http://beta.heroesofnewerth.com/H829BYwa3z/facebook.php [13:10] fun game [13:10] cute nsa penguis cool too. hope they armed with heavvy automatic armament and can be deployed averywheree by HALO drop. even against MS ;P [13:11] briareus, magic [13:11] I'll man mount, bet its in there [13:11] Camarade_Tux, libX11-1.2.2-i486-1 [13:11] and it runs in linux :) [13:11] briareus, actually cant remeber. I know I had to play a bit, but got it somehow without rebooting [13:12] Camarade_Tux, with bt some suspect line i managed to got - #8 0x08096315 in main (argc=2, argv=0xbf89a264, envp=Cannot access memory at [13:12] wait a second. I look in the full /tmp and the directory is /tmp/SBo/ so its still a slackbuild somehow [13:12] agentc0re|work: only issue now is my router isn't accessible, but last night I got wireless working. :/ [13:12] address 0x5fd1 [13:12] but that's probably not too useful anyway [13:12] I guess editing that one line in the qt4.SlackBuild is FAIL [13:12] _juan (n=juan@200.109.136.42) joined ##slackware. [13:12] fire|bird, heh [13:13] if you have chroot jails, chroot into it and use its /tmp [13:13] jessen (n=jessen@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) joined ##slackware. [13:13] Richlv: it's hard to say since I don't know nx bout would it be possible the screens aren't properly configured? [13:13] no longer, but yeah that'd be a thing [13:13] mancha: are you mancha on twitter [13:13] slackytude: If it isn't one thing, it's another. :P Last night everything was working excellent though. I don't know what happened. I can't even access the router to check the config. [13:13] Camarade_Tux, no idea. reading the reports in various systems it looks like xcb just sucks [13:14] fire|bird, sunspots [13:14] Richlv, trying to get nx working? [13:14] bri, i am not [13:14] slackytude, yep. it worked fine on my previous slack box [13:15] Richlv, tried the google stuff? [13:15] <_juan> i am using slackware 64, and ive been trying to setup my hp3535 deskjet printer through hplip, and it always gives me the same error: Printer queue setup failed. Please restart CUPS and try again. [13:16] <_juan> is there a bug in hplip? [13:16] slackytude, you mean neatx ? that's what i tried to set up, but it doesn't matter at this point, as nxagent itself doesn't run [13:16] an hblip? [13:16] Richlv, ah, gotha [13:16] gotcha [13:16] Richlv: actually, "XID ret = dpy->xcb->next_xid; [13:16] " on its own is aweful [13:17] both freenx and neatx depend on nxagent [13:17] (no null check for dpy, no null check for xcb) [13:17] I was an nxagent, but I nxretired [13:17] you probably were nxfired [13:17] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Success [13:18] well, yeah, when it comes to nx work, no one ever really quits [13:18] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: No route to host [13:18] cabrioleur (n=apn@194.217.4.175) joined ##slackware. [13:18] unrelated, but forgot to post this link http://changelog.complete.org/archives/910-how-to-think-about-compression [13:19] Action: Camarade_Tux is terrible tired [13:19] psypete (n=psypete@li62-9.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [13:19] Camarade_Tux, why? [13:19] slackytude: bad bed imho [13:19] or the room, I don't know [13:19] where can i send bugs/feature requests? [13:19] I never sleep very well [13:19] psypete, #slackware-request [13:20] Camarade_Tux: CPAP [13:20] psypete, bugs, you can send them per email to pat [13:20] addr? [13:20] briareus: nah [13:21] Camarade_Tux: C2H5OH [13:21] fifty hydrogens! holy crap! :o [13:21] re [13:22] Camarade_Tux: well, then perhaps C21H30O2 [13:22] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.159.58.163.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:22] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:22] briareus, what are those? [13:22] briareus: I'm wondering how this can be any stable ;) [13:22] slackytude: whiskey and THC [13:22] nsp (n=nsp@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [13:23] i need a tripwire; is there a SBo or slackpkg? [13:23] Camarade_Tux, heh, not fifty [13:23] oh, I had misread, that was an 'O', not an '0' [13:23] 5-o ? [13:23] yeah, same here [13:23] ^^ [13:24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol [13:26] Quiznos: did you look for it? [13:27] howdy BP{k} [13:27] fire|bird: howdy :) [13:28] anyone use icecream? [13:29] with whiskey ? i think nobody [13:29] lol [13:29] whisky and icecream! [13:29] http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream [13:29] grouper, a lot of people do [13:30] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:30] Action: BP{k} likes lemon and pistachio icecream, with whisky on the side ;) [13:30] is 13.0 going to support ext4 out of the box? [13:30] psypete: yes. [13:30] nice, i've been waiting to upgrade [13:30] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [13:31] Action: slackytude wants slack13, samba4 and zfs! [13:31] or the kitten gets it [13:31] zfs? isn't that not yet supported natively [13:32] it aint, which is why I want it [13:32] oh, i guess with fuse [13:32] psypete: not on linux, no, licensing issues. [13:32] zfs ? what for ? [13:32] well, snapshots for one [13:32] for people who want 28 exabyte volumes :]] [13:32] btrfs for that [13:33] zfs is more mature than brtfs in, well, all respects [13:33] stupid name too [13:33] except legal aspects [13:33] haha [13:33] http://titanomachy.net/sights/screenshots/screenshot20090620c.png [13:33] even Apple kick zfs fron own distros [13:33] slackytude: haha, yeah, might as well name it bertfs :P [13:33] i leave lawyers to argue legalities [13:33] heh [13:33] bert fs [13:34] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Client Quit [13:34] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [13:34] Action: brbrbr feel lack of something like "ReiserFS v5", ie RsrFSv4+some btrfs feats [13:34] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:34] hrm [13:34] I've seen folks calling reiserfs murderfs [13:34] Pirate Party now 7th largest party [13:35] "Btrfs is under heavy development, and is not suitable for any uses other than benchmarking and review." [13:35] ok screw btrfs, gimme zfs :D [13:35] zfs++ [13:35] zfs ftw!!! [13:35] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425457.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:35] briareus seems its same folks, who actually kill Reiser wife [13:36] btrfs is at this point basically vapour, and considering it is an Oracle sponsored project, and Oracle just bought Sun (and therefore ZFS) I would expect that btr dies slowly and quietly. [13:36] because he didnt? [13:36] haha [13:36] murderfs == named by Vegans?? [13:36] uh, Reiser confessed, iirc [13:36] eviljames, yeah, but oracle might release zfs under a different license [13:36] psypete: probably something to do with the dead wife [13:36] eviljames: yes, he did. [13:36] eviljames when was sun bought? [13:36] Quiznos: earlier this year, month or two ago [13:36] k [13:37] i missed that news [13:37] because murder aqusation ise a tool[for MS] to mow out Reiser [and RsrFS] from road [13:37] slackytude: Why would they bother doing that? Oracle's high-end databases run almost exclusively on Sparc/Solaris. [13:37] i know i know, vegans are just funnier to me [13:37] jonsmith1982_ (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:37] eviljames, why not? also oracle has a linux server as well, no? hardend red-hat or sumesuch [13:37] slackytude: Yeah, but now they own a real os. :P [13:37] brbrbr: uhm .. yeah... whatever. [13:37] heh [13:37] comessions mean nothing. if you more familar with legal practice, than ordinary people[2 whom is targeted] [13:38] damn, freshmeat.net archives is dead [13:38] ALL I HAD TO SEE was that madman look on Reiser's face during his jail before the trial, the empty vacant look, and I knew he did it. [13:38] "whatever" is matter. especially if its ReiserFSv4 [13:38] fm.announce [13:38] /sarcasm [13:38] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [13:38] brbrbr: so because the evidence pointed to him and he confessed, he must be innocent? [13:39] slackytude: Unbreakable Linux [13:39] Zoubiddaaa (n=Zoubidda@home.zoubi.org) joined ##slackware. [13:39] which, incidentally, comes broken [13:39] no, because he PHYSICALLY cannot do it. [13:39] Then I wonder why he said he physically did it? [13:40] brbrbr: HE CONFESSED http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/08/its-the-least-p/ [13:40] briareus: he knew where buried dead body was [13:40] there's his own words man [13:40] so he probably was at least there, if not the guy who killed her [13:40] btw, anyone might be inocent, regardless anything. point is to have OWN opinion, not mass-media grown, one [13:40] hahaha [13:40] brbrbr: mine wasn't a mass grown opinion, I just told you why it was my own [13:40] The point is to check the facts and base your "OWN" opinion on something that resembles reality. [13:40] brbrbr: up yours buddy [13:40] what " HE CONFESSED" must mean ? im know, he don't to it. so WHAT ? [13:40] brbrbr: READ THIS http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/08/its-the-least-p/ [13:41] bad troll [13:41] A: No. I killed her on the stairs. ,,,,, [13:41] Q: You killed her on the stairs themselves? [13:41] A: Yeah. [13:41] brbrbr: "he confessed" means "Hans Reiser said that Hans Reiser killed Hans Reiser's wife." It doesn't get more simple than that. [13:41] haha [13:41] think about it. a bit more. [13:41] brbrbr: ... hum... [13:41] please [13:41] and this brbrbr is telling me I have a media-grown opinion. Up yours, brbrbr [13:42] in fact, goodbye, brbrbr [13:42] heh [13:42] nevermind [13:42] brbrbr unperson [13:42] brbrbr: you do realise that *HE* pointed the body out to the police, right? After they could *NOT* find it? for sentence reduction? [13:42] so, running mc from the cli, I get q's instead of lines; anyone know how to correct this? [13:42] hahahah [13:42] lee__: Did you choose a custom font? [13:43] nothing return Reiser wife back. especially after, moment, when he start panic, and trid to reconsider and return to Reiser. then kidnapers kill she [13:43] dios_mio (i=test@88.243.98.77) joined ##slackware. [13:43] Action: BP{k} thinks that brbrbr should study at least the principle of "ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat" [13:43] brbrbr: please share the hallucinogenic drugs you are on. [13:43] to any kind of "discussion" around dont matter. at all [13:43] hey BP{k} man [13:43] look, guys. the important thing is that even though he killed his wife, brbrbr can always come up with some other reasoning and ignore facts. [13:44] eviljames: The problem is though, it's not drugs causing the hallucinations. :/ [13:44] eviljames you are Microsoft/scientology guy undercover here ? [13:44] brbrbr: Yep. ALL HAIL XENU [13:44] psypete: I call this "The Fox News Effect" [13:44] as im suspect, mr Balmer [13:44] no reason to get political about it. anybody can be ignorant [13:45] hey, from Fetchmail -V, what does ``fallback MDA'' mean? [13:45] brbrbr: And, it's pretty smart to go straight to an ad hominem instead of actually speaking to the facts. It makes you look really intelligent. [13:45] yeah, even Hirler can [13:45] Action: BP{k} calls godwin! [13:45] eviljames: no, just defaults. [13:45] Godwin called, Discussion ends. [13:45] you know guys, I do remember when trolls used to have at least a level of standards. [13:45] Question on the table... [13:45] what "fact" you are telling about ? :) there not significant facts about it. not yet [13:45] from Fetchmail -V, what does ``fallback MDA'' mean? [13:45] Quiznos: MDA = Mail Delivery Agent [13:45] eviljames so that's a local daemon? [13:45] the local * [13:46] fallback mda would be an mda to use if localhost has no port 25 open (afaik) [13:46] hmm [13:46] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30353.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [13:46] so fetchmail gets the remote mail and delivers it to a localhost MDA? [13:46] is that necesa with fetchamail? [13:46] Indeed, usually sendmail [13:46] yeah [13:46] but i hate sendmail :) [13:46] ok thanks guys [13:47] use maildrop [13:47] nods [13:47] easier to configure than postfix, supports maildir, etc [13:47] kool [13:47] Quiznos: postfix > sendmail [13:47] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:47] oh, I hadn't tried maildrop [13:47] of course sendmail < NULL [13:47] heh [13:47] hahah [13:47] maildrop > postfix > sendmail > nc [13:47] Unfortunately, it handles some 99.9999999999999999999999% of email across the internet. [13:48] ... > > > nMH [13:48] oops .. < < < nMH [13:48] yea [13:48] i dont htink sendmail's %net use is that high [13:48] its more like 98% [13:48] Bernstein has done a survey [13:48] Yeah, my number is a gross exaggeration :P [13:48] it was never that high [13:49] wait i know [13:49] LET'S GOOGLE IT! [13:49] But typically if an e-mail is sent across the web it touches a sendmail server at some point. [13:49] _juan (n=juan@200.109.136.42) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:49] inappropriately? ;) [13:49] haha [13:50] eviljames: you're back [13:51] Action: Camarade_Tux hugs eviljames \o/ [13:51] Camarade_Tux: Back from outer space [13:51] eviljames: you haz spaceship? [13:51] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-236-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:51] or back in black :) [13:51] BP{k}: and, btw, [ in bed ] [13:51] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A74890.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:53] Xenu share spard one spaceship with him [13:53] well it appears that Bernstein hasnt done a mail-survey since y2001, but http://cr.yp.to/surveys/smtpsoftware6.txt has the info i'm looking at. [13:53] so, EvilTux live here, and I thought that nick was free [13:53] Action: psypete touches Xenu inappropriately with a sendmail [13:53] s/live/lives/ [13:53] psypete lol [13:53] perverts [13:53] AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [13:53] -) [13:53] Xenu was asking for it! [13:53] Action: Quiznos runs sqreaming from the room [13:53] yea right [13:54] he... i'm NOT GOING THERE [13:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqq051BU2MY [13:57] :| [13:58] jessen (n=jessen@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [13:58] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-236-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [13:58] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:58] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:58] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A75D0B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:59] slackytude|nomer (n=slacky@p54A7363F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:01] anyone still interested in sendmail usage? [14:01] unfortunately, Bernstein hasnt done a survey in almost decade tho. [14:02] or in Plan9 usage ?[userland meant] [14:02] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) joined ##slackware. [14:03] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [14:03] in 2001, sendmail use was 42% [14:03] but in 1977 was surely zero ? [14:04] duno [14:04] i wont speculate myself [14:05] maybe we need something like sendmail+ ? or sendmail# ? :P with more insaneous config files ;-) [14:05] i belive thats the reason for the plethora (hey, havent used that word in years!!) of many MTAs [14:06] mgm (n=mgm@200.206.141.46) left irc: Client Quit [14:06] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.172.42) joined ##slackware. [14:06] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-236-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [14:06] Kartx (n=kartx@83.142.202.45) joined ##slackware. [14:06] well i do recall that sendmail was the reason for the 1989? network worm [14:07] Hi. I have a script: http://textsnip.com/bc0cda which writes it's output to Syslog. I would like the output to be put into a different(separate) file. How to do it? [14:07] Kartx: ulogd [14:07] how is text writen to syslogd now? [14:09] samuelig (n=samuelig@253.pool85-57-144.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:09] -j LOG --log-level debug <-- like that. [14:10] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:11] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A74890.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [14:12] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-144-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:12] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [14:13] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@200.63.208.226) left irc: No route to host [14:14] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-93-25.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:15] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-93-25.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:17] BP{k}: thanks, will take a look into it. Though I have to admit I have absolutely no idea what to do : ) [14:17] jigp (i=allan@ti500720a080-2460.bb.online.no) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:17] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@190.176.169.163) joined ##slackware. [14:18] dfhgdhgd (n=lkjlkjl@212.183.134.208) joined ##slackware. [14:18] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173-86-42-35.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:20] can anyone tell me with tool i could use to make a client use a proxy ? [14:20] ssh ? [14:21] tsocks? [14:21] squid? [14:21] like redirect it to a remote proxy [14:21] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [14:21] ssh? [14:21] tsocks? [14:22] ive not tried tsocks [14:22] What is ways to put a socks proxy layer on an app [14:22] mancha, $100 [14:22] Ill take tcp networking for $800,alex [14:22] slackytude|nomer, i was told socat have you tried that ? [14:23] in the OSI Layer model, this layer causes the most trouble [14:23] chthp (n=chthp@213-66-224-97-no22.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:23] dfhgdhgd, nope [14:23] mancha, timeout [14:23] ok ill have a look tsocks see if that works [14:23] what is layer 8? [14:24] tsocks is a very neat app, btw [14:25] layer8 is DICOM and things like it [14:25] yeah mancha [14:25] its a misnomer [14:25] it means anything beyond the 7 layers, like PEMKAS [14:25] i need help with fetchmail [14:26] layer8 isn't proper terminology, better said like: DICOM is an upper layer protocol for tcp/ip [14:26] what is gmail's proper mail addr? [14:26] for imap proto [14:26] google knows [14:26] google knows things [14:26] come on [14:26] how does tsocks intercept btw? [14:27] mancha, read man [14:27] Quiznos: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=78799 [14:27] k [14:27] lol, google knows [14:27] mancha i want an app to for a client with no proxy support [14:27] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-144-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [14:27] layer 8 is the user, people [14:28] well there are 'layers' over 7 [14:28] Kartx: 1) compile it (use the slackbuild at SBo), 2) configure it 3) start it [14:28] lol when did gmail get imap? didnt it used to be just pop? [14:28] dfhgdhgd, socat looks nice. I remeber using it ages ago [14:28] maybe im thinkin of something else... [14:28] im too used to using igoogle [14:28] ViN86: in the beginning they had only pop3, they added imap later. [14:28] k, thought i was taking crazy pills [14:29] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-144-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:29] BP{k}: you understand why i didnt know how to install the packages earlier? [14:29] mancha, http://tsocks.sourceforge.net/faq.php [14:29] dfh, that is that it does, it is a wrapper, ina sense giving proxy support to apps that don't have it [14:29] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [14:30] slacky thanks, but my question's not in the faq [14:30] Kartx (n=kartx@83.142.202.45) left irc: "Java user signed off" [14:30] ViN86: no. [14:31] i was looking for tgz files [14:31] mancha, O_o [14:31] anyways, i presume dynamic linking, LD_PRELOAD or something. [14:31] faq is for whimps [14:31] ViN86: uhm, why? [14:31] never mind, i thought somoene here might know [14:31] mancha, tsocks can be used a number of ways, the most common being the LD_PRELOAD environment variable. When set (often through a script) this requests that the system dynamic loader load tsocks into each process before execution of the process begins. This allows tsocks to redirect calls to standard networking functions to force them to be socksified. [14:31] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Connection timed out [14:31] because in slack 9 that's all i ever saw... [14:31] mancha, first question of the faq [14:32] BP{k}: never saw txz files :/ [14:32] ViN86: contrary to popular belief, Slackware does evolve ;) (and yes txz is new in 13.0) [14:32] ah, you're right, i sw the Q had to do with ssh and skipped the answer [14:32] RTFMC! [14:32] GRRRRrrrr dammit. qt4 compiles for like two hours and then stops at cp: cannot stat `KNOWN.ISSUES': No such file or directory [14:32] m (n=m@c-67-182-208-26.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [14:32] BP{k}: of course it does, but i dont evolve at the same time, i lag behind it a little lol [14:32] or maybe its done? [14:33] briareus: hmm using a slackbuild? [14:33] BP{k}: yes [14:33] but now that it's 'done' I think, I can't find a .tgz [14:34] well no. [14:34] because it aborted during the doc stage :). Although if you look at the slackbuild, you can run the rest of the commands by hand, it's not that hard to figure it out :) [14:36] I'm not sure which command is the one that made the docs. This one? [14:36] cp -a LGPL_EXCEPTION.txt INSTALL LICENSE.GPL* KNOWN.ISSUES README changes-$VERSION \ $PKG/usr/doc/$PRGNAM-$VERSION [14:36] run the ones after that? [14:36] yep [14:36] it didn't find one of those files, probably [14:36] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "[BX] "got bitchx?"" [14:37] yep, the KNOWN.ISSUES [14:37] thats a known issue [14:37] It didn't find KNOWN.ISSUES, thus the cp: cannot stat `KNOWN.ISSUES': No such file or directory :) [14:37] echo "KNOWN.ISSUES FILE IS MISSING FROM NEWER VERSION" > KNOWN.ISSUES [14:38] zomg .. software without known.issues ;) [14:38] take tat paradox! [14:38] s/tat/that [14:38] if only women where like that ;) [14:38] do I start it over after that? I see how I can figure out the $VARIABLES and do it manually, but I don't suppose there is a way to resume the slackbuild? [14:38] heh [14:39] briareus: uhm no. [14:39] ktos (n=ktos@79.184.145.34) left ##slackware ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away"). [14:39] you didn't look in their UNKNOWN.ISSUES [14:39] if you start over ... it really compiles from the start. [14:39] tail slackbuild > somefile; sh somefile [14:39] heh [14:39] so commands like cat $CWD/$PRGNAM.SlackBuild > $PKG/usr/doc/$PRGNAM-$VERSION/$PRGNAM.SlackBuild ..I just have to figure out those variables and execute manually [14:39] bri, you could coment out the lines that re-do things temporatrily then you don't need to fuss with variable values [14:39] briareus: not script wise no. you can do either what slackytude|nomer said or figure it out (which is rather easy to do. [14:40] dont do what I said [14:40] always do the opposite [14:40] so dont run that command [14:40] no,wait [14:40] head slackbuild? ;) [14:40] Action: slackytude|nomer is confused [14:40] slackytude|nomer: that much is certain .. but a good shrink can help with that ;) [14:40] yes, varaibels defined at the beginning won't be defined in a tail. bad advice, don't follow [14:41] well, you could use head and tail in creative way [14:41] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [14:41] ways [14:41] y0 lf4 [14:41] comment out lines that extract source, configure, make, patch, and re-run [14:41] hey slackytude|nomer [14:41] hows it hanging? [14:41] slackytude|nomer: How is everything? [14:41] Action: BP{k} buggers off as kethry is about to serve him food. [14:41] marto28sf (i=1000@84.252.10.104) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:42] lf4, well, besides that fact the Im merely a souless slave of my work, devoid of any emotions or dream, Im quite well. How about you? [14:42] BP{k}, lucky bastard ^-^ [14:42] Action: slackytude|nomer probably does some pizza [14:42] slackytude|nomer: I'm good just really tired I was woken up by a friend calling me. [14:43] someone who calls you while you sleep is not a friend  _  [14:43] unless its female :) [14:43] depends [14:43] slackytude|nomer: Haha well he didn't know my schedual [14:43] im not fussy [14:44] oh, well, dont kill him yet [14:44] Action: geoff_k hands out his moby number [14:44] y0 lf4 [14:45] hey fire|bird :) [14:45] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:45] slackytude|nomer: He was calling because this saturday we are going to start rebuilding my 1955 Chevy Belair. [14:45] lf4: How's it going? [14:46] lf4, nice! [14:46] fire|bird: Doing well lol just trying to get everything done that needs to be by this weekend. [14:46] fire|bird: How are things going your side? Ever get the laptop connected? [14:47] lf4: I got slack64 on the lappy last night, prior to that, EVERYTHING was working great, wifi and all, now today, router is completely inaccessible, can't access it to check config, NOTHING. ARGH. [14:48] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [14:48] The lights are all on that should be, etc. I tried a hard reset, etc. and nothing. [14:49] fire|bird: wireless is so picky I gave up on it last year after running it for 2 years. :P lol [14:49] I'm |--| <---that close, to using it as a frisby and tossing it out the window. :P [14:49] lf4: This isn't even wireless though, it's the entire router, wired connections too. [14:49] BP{k}: should I be making the directories and whatnot (doing this slackbuild remainder manually) in the directory I am in (slackbuild dir) or in the directory that I had specified as the target/output directory? [14:49] oh lol must be because its an asus.. should have bought cisco :) [14:49] I can't tell from reading the code [14:49] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl6-200-77.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:50] mrunderstood (n=michael@69.63.23.173) joined ##slackware. [14:50] lf4: Well, I bought within the budget I have to spend on anything (which is quite limited) :P [14:50] lf4: But, at least I got slack64 on the laptop now. :P [14:50] like this command: cat $CWD/$PRGNAM.SlackBuild > $PKG/usr/doc/$PRGNAM-$VERSION/$PRGNAM.SlackBuild ...I see that CWD is 'pwd' but I'm not sure what directory that one is pointing to [14:51] it's the one to which the slackbuild is being run from [14:51] and there are more $CWD (pwd) after that command [14:51] eg, it should be defined very near the top, before any directory changes happen [14:52] so my slackbuild directory in my case, ok [14:52] but the second half doesn't make sense then, since I have no qt4/usr/doc/ [14:53] which part? [14:53] > $PKG/usr/doc/$PRGNAM-$VERSION/$PRGNAM.SlackBuild [14:53] briareus: yes, so $CWD is just the same value throughout the entire script. [14:53] for me that would be qt4/usr/doc/qt4-4.5.2/qt4.SlackBuild ...but I have no such dir [14:53] $PKG is the temp dir that the make install DESTDIR= is sending to. [14:53] $PKG/usr/doc/$PRGNAM-$VERSION will exist after the slackbuild has done its make install business [14:54] wtf are you talking about [14:54] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:54] or trying to do ? [14:55] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-144-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [14:55] my slackbuild for qt4 failed at the doc creation stage, so I'm trying to complete it manually [14:55] puyi (n=deco@adsl-69-108-75-96.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:56] O.o [14:56] what do you guys think of arch linux ? [14:56] maybe try #slackbuilds [14:56] puyi, good [14:56] slackytude|nomer: :) [14:56] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:56] shah16 (n=shah@121.246.152.157) left irc: "Leaving" [14:57] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:57] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@S0106001d7ee17c6d.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] Action: slackytude|nomer likes arch, mint and crux [14:59] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.9) left irc: [15:00] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [15:00] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl10-167-39.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:00] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [15:00] mrunderstood (n=michael@69.63.23.173) left irc: "Leaving" [15:00] could someone answer a question about how to load a freetype module in current? [15:00] Action: geoff_k likes tities and beer [15:00] Action: quasar likes... slackware [15:00] artv61: maybe if you were to ask such a question [15:00] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [15:01] i'm sorry i am new to this [15:01] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:01] Nick change: LifeForce4 -> LF4 [15:01] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:01] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [15:01] cat /home/briareus/SLACKWARES/qt4/qt4.SlackBuild > /musik/bigspace/SBo/package-qt4/usr/doc/qt4-4.5.2/qt4.SlackBuild w00t!! worked, only one jillion commands to go [15:03] DirtyHarry (n=DirtyHar@unaffiliated/dirtyharry) left irc: [15:03] SpyKee (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [15:03] briareus: qt4 from SBo, and not from Slackware proper? [15:04] I'm using the slackbuild, I didn't know it was in slackware [15:04] iam trying to start x and got a messagethat i needed to load freetype module and i810 module [15:04] briareus: It's in -current (aka 13rc) [15:04] how would i go about this [15:05] artv61: have you tried Xorg -configure yet? [15:05] samuelig (n=samuelig@253.pool85-57-144.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [15:05] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-144-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:05] good evening [15:06] eviljames: i need to do that as root ,yes? [15:06] artv61: those are probably just warnings; are you on -current, or 12.2 ? [15:07] thrice`: i am on current ,and when i do Xorg - configure i get a pile of errors [15:08] you shouldn't need a xorg.conf, then. can you pastebin the output of what you get when you try to run "startx" ? [15:08] i am sorry i will have to go back and read somemore [15:09] SpyKee (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:10] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:11] thank you guys i will read the wiki like suggested in error,thx again [15:12] sdf (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:12] er, just paste your actual error, and we can help ;) [15:12] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:12] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [15:13] This is weird. if I use hexdump -C on something it works on my desktop [15:13] sdf (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:13] if I do it on my laptop it sayus hexdump -C no such file or directory [15:13] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:13] they're both slack 12.2 lol [15:13] novacrust (n=Crust@unaffiliated/novacrust) joined ##slackware. [15:14] does the laptop have util-linux-ng? [15:14] I can check [15:14] thats the actualy package name? [15:14] ViN86 (i=1000@SYDNEYPACIFIC-SEVEN-O-SEVEN.MIT.EDU) left irc: "Leaving" [15:14] w00t qt4 apparently installed via .tgz I made from a failed slackbuild, thanks for the hot tip there folks [15:14] yeah if you add version and tgz crap at the end [15:14] util-linux-ng-2.14.1-i486-1 [15:14] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:16] does hexdump -breakit print out an error? [15:16] bash-3.1$ hexdump -breakit [15:16] hexdump: -breakit: No such file or directory [15:17] weird [15:17] what does "file $( which hexdump )" reveal? [15:17] I thought so too [15:17] and I thought it was my laptop I was using for hexdump anyways [15:17] /usr/bin/hexdump -breakit ? [15:17] sec [15:17] I think the binary is b0rked [15:18] bash-3.1$ file $(which hexdump) [15:18] /usr/bin/hexdump: perl script text executable [15:18] mm [15:18] shoudl be an elf executable [15:18] /usr/bin/hexdump: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [15:18] someone (if not you) has replaced your hexdump file [15:18] reinstall your util-linux-ng package [15:18] I wonder if this is why Data::Hexdumper is acting weird [15:18] in perl [15:18] wait...keep that hexdump perl file for later analtsis though [15:19] well its not anmyone else [15:19] unless someone managed to find my laptop and unencrypt the root lvm [15:19] can you pastebin the perl file or maybe the first 50 or so lines? [15:19] yeah [15:20] jigp (i=allan@ti500720a080-6070.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [15:20] pastebin.com is the preference [15:20] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [15:20] nooo, pastebin.slackadelic.com [15:20] no, not that [15:21] Is there a page on the wiki or something for setting up tap to click? I'm not seeing it if there is. :P [15:21] synaptics? [15:21] http://pastebin.com/d4e85eb6e [15:21] oo [15:21] mancha: yeah [15:21] well its up anyways lol [15:21] Option "TapButton1" "1" [15:21] or something along those lines [15:21] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics is pretty good [15:22] ok, thanks mancha, thrice` [15:22] for -current + hal [15:22] Is scroll setup the about? [15:22] thrice`: slack64 current :) [15:22] bhodgins: wtf? how would that get there instead of the binary? [15:23] bh, my hypothesis is that you've installed some perl stuff that has overwritten the binary. can you recall what custom perl PMs you've added and how? [15:23] No idea [15:23] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:23] it may have done it last night [15:23] when I installed Data::HexDumper and Data::Hexdump [15:23] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: Client Quit [15:23] for my bot [15:24] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A72427.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:24] how did you install those? straigh CPAN or other method? [15:24] cpan [15:25] this should never happen...lemme see their CPAN entries [15:25] brbrbr (n=brbrbrbr@unaffiliated/brbrbr) left irc: "gotta go. bb all :)" [15:25] like on cpan.org? [15:26] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:26] at least the fix is easy [15:26] http://search.cpan.org/~ftassin/Data-HexDump-0.02/lib/Data/HexDump.pm [15:26] scary, though [15:27] yes, neither should overwrite...what else did you add that was perl and hexdump related? [15:27] 15:28 < mancha> this should never happen...lemme see their CPAN entries [15:27] oops [15:27] selected wrong text [15:28] http://search.cpan.org/~dcantrell/Data-Hexdumper-2.01/lib/Data/Hexdumper.pm [15:28] the problem is who knows what else has been overwritten :/ [15:28] exactly [15:28] you could easily install a rootkit this way [15:28] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [15:28] hi [15:29] it appears to me you dl'd a file called hexdump (that uses those libs) [15:29] it squashed the binary hexdump [15:29] yeah [15:29] and I'm talking on #perl about it [15:30] here it is: http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/FTASSIN/Data-HexDump-0.02/hexdump [15:30] < mst> bhodgins: the fact your system is configured to overwrite /usr/bin things with random perl scripts from CPAN isn't really his fault [15:30] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) joined ##slackware. [15:30] that's a poor answer. [15:30] He has truth there, but the thing is he dshouldnt be doingf it at all [15:31] Guy after kernel upgrade i can still see some things from the default kernel loading. [15:31] it is CPAN which manages the installation not the distribution [15:31] liike rc.inet-26.oldversion here [15:31] at boot time [15:31] Asmadeus (n=asmadeus@shellium/staff/developer.Asmadeus) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:31] I told them I have to be root to install modules though [15:32] or else when I install as a user it complains saying can not install to /root lmapo [15:32] lmao* [15:32] peacenik (n=cyberian@142-217-76-23.telebecinternet.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [15:33] did you dl the tar.gz and did perl Makefile.PL and such or allowed the cpan shell to do it all? [15:33] no, cpan does it with LWP [15:33] samuelig (n=samuelig@253.pool85-57-144.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: "BitchX-1.1-final: just when you thought it couldn't get any better" [15:33] dfhgdhgd (n=lkjlkjl@212.183.134.208) left irc: "Leaving" [15:34] yes i am aware, but you can also dl the tg ans make it on your system, just confirming [15:34] iut installs to /usr/bin if I'm root, which makes sense EXCEPT it should be in /usr/bin/perl-version [15:34] since the default isnt /usr/local [15:35] well, how did you configure CPAN the first time? [15:35] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [15:35] automaticly, there are more than 300 questions it frigging asks, the default SHOULD Be /usr/local, honestly, according to my LPI studies. [15:36] experience > LPI [15:36] slackytude|O_o (n=slacky@p54A774F6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [15:36] ok, so the default path is bad [15:36] heh, the default *should* be something, but that doesn't always make it so :P [15:36] exactly evil, but with lpi comes experience. [15:36] Certainly won't debate you on that point. [15:36] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Operation timed out [15:37] I mean, I didnt just read it all up and consider myself knowlegeble of it. [15:37] sdrv (n=sdrv@e176076035.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:37] hmm [15:37] slackytude|nomer (n=slacky@p54A7363F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:38] no, but thats actually a bug, the perl guy is right [15:38] you should email pat, the default should not be /usr/bin [15:38] whats a bug [15:38] well the default is set by cpans auto config script [15:38] am insect [15:38] *an [15:39] I mean, I usualy like to set things up myself guys, but When I saw 300 wquestions scrolls down the screen automaticly I just groaned at it [15:39] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [15:40] hrmm, ok, well then the default sucks. never mind emailing pat [15:40] I mean, /usr/bin is supposed to be distribution specific [15:40] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-200-77.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:40] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:40] fErnandoMdx (i=960103@189.83.119.146) joined ##slackware. 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[15:43] I wanted to take root outside of lvm for a change [15:43] Action: eviljames changes his lexicon [15:43] lol [15:43] and wipe some of toasts porn off [15:43] his granny porn [15:44] why reinstall? just reinstall the util-linux-ng package to overwrite the binary [15:44] Obviiosuly I could do this all manually [15:44] slackytude|evil (n=slacky@p54A72427.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Connection timed out [15:44] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:44] for my laptop yeah, but I'll be wiping my desktop [15:44] I already knew I could reinstall that package [15:45] You can do pretty much a full reinstall with: "upgradepkg --install-new --reinstall **/*t?z" [15:45] of the distro, yes [15:45] that doesnt wipe out toastytoasts granny porn [15:45] that he probably hid in /sbin [15:45] then cat /dev/urandom > /dev/... [15:46] LOOL [15:46] That will likely get rid of the granny porn. [15:46] I did that when I encrypted my laptop [15:46] took frigging forever [15:48] bhanson_ (i=bhanson@isafailure.com) joined ##slackware. [15:48] jamming on my les paul for now [15:48] :D [15:48] bigpaws_ (n=bigpaws@clsm-216-222-251-92-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) joined ##slackware. [15:49] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-216-222-251-92-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) got netsplit. [15:49] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) got netsplit. [15:49] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) got netsplit. [15:49] bhanson (i=bhanson@isafailure.com) got netsplit. [15:49] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) got netsplit. [15:49] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) got netsplit. [15:49] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [15:50] Necos (i=1001@cpe-76-169-21-84.socal.res.rr.com) returned to ##slackware. [15:50] bhodgins: *joins with his ibanez guitar :P [15:50] bh, thanks for shining light on that potential problem: cpan installing a .pm where a filename matches a system binary [15:50] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-216-222-251-92-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) returned to ##slackware. [15:50] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) returned to ##slackware. [15:50] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) returned to ##slackware. [15:50] amazon101 (i=captain@liberstation.com) joined ##slackware. [15:50] amazon10x (i=captain@liberstation.com) left irc: Connection reset by peer [15:51] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [15:51] Action: quasar joins with his Fender Precision bass [15:53] :) [15:54] bigpaws (n=bigpaws@clsm-216-222-251-92-pppoe.dsl.clsm.epix.net) left irc: Operation timed out [15:54] there we go :D [15:54] Action: eviljames rocks out on his custom 7-string [15:55] bhanson (i=bhanson@isafailure.com) got lost in the net-split. [15:55] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) got lost in the net-split. [15:55] s/rocks out/MELTS YOUR FACE/ [15:55] eviljames: oh i remember you now lol you play messhugah stuff too right ? wrong spelling i know :P [15:55] You got it dude. [15:55] eviljames: :D [15:55] Meshuggah & Steve Vai are the reason I got that guitar. [15:56] nice :D , i have an ibanez sz 320 gold top [15:56] obnauticus_ (n=obnautic@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] v4nelle (n=van@adsl148-181.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:56] Sweet! That's a pretty little guitar. [15:56] I've got a friend who is a luthier, when we have the time I'm going for a custom 8-string :P [15:57] eviljames: hardcore :P [15:57] obnauticus_ (n=obnautic@c-71-236-194-83.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:57] Action: winter hates it all [15:58] Action: winter wants to go to china and get executed [15:58] Action: eviljames calls the whambulance [15:58] run for your lives winter is released in ##slackware! [15:58] nooooo!!! [15:58] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [15:58] afk [16:00] * slackboy has kicked eviljames ("please turn off your autoaway message) [16:01] how often does pat show up on here? I thought I saw him once [16:01] just oncew [16:01] Action: eviljames has kicked Camarade_Tux ("please turn off your auto-erotic gay messages") [16:01] once* [16:01] LOL [16:01] bhodgins: He visits occasionally.. [16:01] bhodgins, he turns up when we start about beer or hookers [16:01] Camarade_Tux: Looks like I wasn't quite afk after all.. [16:02] *to talk about [16:02] lol [16:02] eviljames: :) [16:02] Camarade_Tux: So, how goes it mon ami? [16:02] eviljames: exams on tomorrow and can't get myself to work ='( [16:02] eviljames: and how where your holidays? :) [16:03] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:03] Camarade_Tux: They were pretty sweet. I spent it drunk in a trailer park. [16:03] what exam [16:03] eviljames: hahaha :P [16:03] Action: slackytude|O_o should probably start learning as well [16:03] eviljames: electronics [16:03] tomorrow's is pretty easy but bah [16:04] hop, work [16:06] \o/ time to start setting up the RAID [16:06] at least no sex here [16:07] let's group-fap! [16:07] lets not [16:08] cant get laid via irc!!!!!111 [16:08] Action: LF4 leaves the room. [16:08] Action: eviljames follows LF4 [16:08] that could be so much fun ! [16:08] LF4: bunch o' queers, groupfapping all over the place. [16:08] ^^ [16:08] LF4: I'd hate to be the janitor who cleans up THAT mess. [16:09] we're *only* 300 [16:09] with one bot and three of four gals [16:09] How many women in here? 2? This is some SERIOUS bukkake [16:09] eviljames: lol no kidding i'll avoid that and go back to my projects. [16:09] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [16:09] eviljames: 4 I think [16:10] i wish to see a de [16:10] That's still ~75 : 1 ratio [16:10] Action: slackytude|O_o transcendences [16:10] "i wish to see a dendrophile in a forest" [16:10] well thats enough of that [16:10] like that quote [16:10] I need to learn my C major scale soon. I'm playin all bluesey lately [16:10] and old rockish [16:10] hmm, maybe 5 actually [16:10] bhodgins: WWHWWWH That's it. [16:11] ? [16:11] bhodgins: CDEFGAB - C (whole step) D (whole step) E (half step) F ... [16:11] ooh yeah. [16:11] C++ major scale? [16:11] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [16:11] NO [16:11] bhodgins: e minor ;-) [16:11] bhodgins: C Major is nice due to no sharps or flats to memorize. [16:11] cc: music [16:12] puyi: e minor = G major, only the F is Sharp. [16:12] I dont midn the sharps and flats [16:12] Keyboards are a musical instrument. [16:12] Besides, if you dont remember them, bend the strings [16:12] eviljames: i know just ment to say i ant e minor :P [16:12] want* [16:12] You can generally make any minor scale from the a minor [16:12] e minor for some serious shredding :P [16:12] if you know that much just translate it [16:13] bhodgins: Also if you take the C major scale and start on A instead (ABCDEFG - WHWWHWW) it becomes the A minor scale. [16:13] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [16:13] hooray for relative modes! [16:13] I know, C major is A minor [16:13] and if you start on e it becames the phrigian mode [16:13] Action: eviljames <- bit of a music nerd. [16:13] lol [16:13] phrygian, btw. [16:13] eviljames: my spelling sucks :P [16:13] loo [16:13] lol* [16:13] llo [16:14] need some lunch [16:16] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [16:16] Action: eviljames needs to punch exchange server in the face. [16:16] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [16:17] two and half tones down from the starting point of the major scale gives the minor [16:17] STOPSLOWINGDOWNMYEMAILORILLFYOURSUP. [16:17] LF4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:17] same key signature at least [16:18] thanks for the help earlier, folks. Apparently my system had a hard failure immediately upon running the program with the new qt4 libs, but it seems ok now [16:18] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:20] fire|bird (i=1000@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [16:22] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-5.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [16:23] x1user (i=1000@host-212-75-8-69.bbccable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:23] gbs [16:23] eviljames: you want to fill a computer? :o [16:23] beark, that's... disgusting! [16:24] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [16:24] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:24] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:24] Action: lf4 kicks, smashes, blows up this mini-itx computer of his! [16:25] why? [16:25] doesnt matter, it's cool [16:26] The stupid thing randomly resets, or locks up lol I have to figure out why its doing that. [16:26] Netu (i=JungleCa@cs71082.pp.htv.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:26] temp? power? [16:26] maybe it gets better if you put windows on it [16:26] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [16:26] Vista only, of course. [16:26] Camarade_Tux: Thats what I am thinking it has to be one of those two. The temp is around 40C which is pretty good. [16:27] slackytude|O_o: No ways haha I want to keep slackware on this system :) [16:27] lf4: YOu're putting Slackware Vista on it? I didn't know it had been released yet? [16:27] CHECK TEH LOGZ!!!11 [16:27] 40C is not too hot, there has to be some other problem [16:27] bah, that free open source crap is unstable as hell [16:27] eviljames: it has been released while you were drunk [16:27] eviljames: Yeah ;) I have connections with pat. [16:28] you're his booze dealer? [16:29] Pig_Pen: Thats what I am thinking, Everything in it is quality besides the mobo (don't know this brand) haha zotac's and I never used them before. [16:29] fire|bird (i=1000@unaffiliated/silvergold) left ##slackware. [16:30] my dell at works has random freezes since lately :( [16:30] it saddens me [16:31] Action: slackytude|O_o needs slack 13 [16:31] so I can slack a day at work installing it [16:31] i would look in the BIOS and disable that thermal protection if it is just a cheap board [16:32] slackytude|O_o: a *day*? you're slow :D [16:32] thats the point! I would have to work otherwise [16:32] he :P [16:32] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:33] mine is at 50C now and it is not having any problems [16:33] put it on teh owen then [16:34] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) joined ##slackware. [16:35] Anyone know what possible could be at port 48058 TCP (unassigned by IANA). I get a flood of connects on that port from many different hosts, been going on for the whole day. [16:35] some p2p ? [16:36] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:36] sdrv (n=sdrv@e176076035.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [16:36] none running, all is silent here, no servers [16:37] fire|bird (i=1000@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [16:38] m (n=m@c-67-182-208-26.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:38] geoff_k (n=geoff@cpc2-asht4-0-0-cust822.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:39] oh well, nite all slackers [16:39] chthp (n=chthp@213-66-224-97-no22.tbcn.telia.com) left ##slackware. [16:40] it might be the FSM's noodly appendage [16:40] (wireshark) [16:43] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:46] arcsky (n=arcsky@2a01:48:100:1:1:0:0:1c2) joined ##slackware. [16:46] anyone into lftp? [16:47] i dont want this message in the out "site: Fatal error: max-retries exceeded" and wonder how i can turn it off or something [16:48] 2>/dev/null .. but you wont see any errors at all [16:48] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-103-233.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:50] |grep -v [16:50] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:52] back [16:52] so yeah, I reinstalled util-linux lol [16:52] wb bhodgins :) [16:52] got a sweet onion terriaki from subway [16:52] heh [16:53] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: No route to host [16:53] lol $5 foot long? :P [16:53] pprkut: hmmm [16:54] fErnandoMdx (i=960103@189.83.119.146) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:54] hey my irc bot is working now [16:54] 16:57 < Fatalnix> !dumpsendbuffer [16:54] 16:57 <@Sera> 00000000 ff |ÿ| [16:54] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. 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[17:03] I ned to code the whisper part though [17:03] I personally think its a good feature [17:04] linXea (n=linXea@81-233-227-253-no38.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: "leaving" [17:04] s0d0 (n=john@host86-175-193-5.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:06] The code whisperer.. [17:06] ? [17:06] xxjx (n=dguitar@cpe-74-75-236-22.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:07] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [17:07] agentc0re|work: Jennifer Love Heweitt + Djikstra? [17:07] what is that mythical greek giant with one eye? [17:08] Cyclops [17:08] yeah [17:08] thanks [17:08] You'd know that if you followed the X-MEN at all. [17:08] i-i3id3r (n=i-i3id3r@unaffiliated/tsar) joined ##slackware. [17:08] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-92.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:08] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.172.42) left irc: "leaving" [17:09] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "caindo fora" [17:10] not me, i rarely watch cartoons, and only the comedy/funny ones when i do [17:11] Ah, well, Futurama ALSO would have informed you of this. [17:11] Considering that Leela = Cyclops. [17:11] heya fire|bird ^.^v [17:11] and, as we all know, Futurama > * [17:11] / [17:12] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [17:12] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "restarting" [17:12] all i can say is: http://www.weather.com/weather/local/USCA0780?lswe=northridge&from=searchbox_localwx [17:12] arcsky (n=arcsky@2a01:48:100:1:1:0:0:1c2) left irc: "leaving" [17:13] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "fui" [17:13] futurama, simpsons, familyguy, robotchicken, the oblongs [17:13] the oblongs! [17:14] Pig_Pen: In that order. [17:14] yeah, they are good [17:14] not necessarily in that order [17:14] lol ej, the oblongs are pimp [17:14] i love em [17:15] there are a few shows on youtube [17:15] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173-86-49-91.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [17:15] Necos: be that as it may, Futurama is the cartoon that tickles my funny bone the hardest. [17:15] bender ! \o/ [17:16] Camarade_Tux: and me, Zoidberg! [17:16] On that note, [17:16] afk, jerkbags. [17:16] futurama is great ej ^.^ [17:17] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [17:17] Camarade_Tux: hmmm? [17:17] powtr|x (n=powtrix@189-69-26-134.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:17] futurama pprkut [17:18] Necos: umm, no. My 'question' was backlog related. But thanks ;) [17:18] pprkut: the touchpad [17:18] lol [17:18] i didn't bother to read :P [17:18] pprkut: but for me it seems solved too [17:19] cabrioleur (n=apn@194.217.4.175) left irc: "Leaving" [17:19] Camarade_Tux: he doesn't use a vanilla kernel (tux on ice) [17:19] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [17:19] doesn't actually have to mean anything, but.... [17:19] yeah, it's possible [17:20] especially since it has to do with detecting/turning on/off hardware [17:20] yep [17:20] johndee (n=id@93-81-71-92.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:22] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.112.195) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:22] johndee (n=id@93-81-71-92.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [17:22] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Hasta siempre la revolucion when everyone uses Free Software [17:23] do any of you set your system to cleanse /tmp at boot and if so how did you config it? [17:23] http://windows7sins.org/ looky what i found [17:23] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-92.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:25] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-92.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [17:25] briareus: look in /etc/rc.d/rc.M and rc.S one or the other has entries to remove stale locks and to clear /tmp of old files [17:28] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:29] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [17:29] hmmmm [17:30] jkr (n=jkr@ti0017a380-0421.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [17:30] we just got an ultrasparc 60 donated from edwards AFB [17:30] lol [17:30] NICE! [17:31] sparc's are awesome [17:31] edwards afb? i bet it has UFO data in it, scan the drive for data [17:31] my first [17:32] Fucking linode [17:32] err, frenode [17:32] too many nodes [17:32] Elektro (n=Elektro@90.85-84-206.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:33] Action: lf4 is a node :P [17:35] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [17:36] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-21-171.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:36] Nick change: powtr|x -> powtrix [17:38] >.> [17:39] Justbobbing (n=Justbob@212.183.134.130) joined ##slackware. [17:41] Chakravanti (n=k@in-67-236-82-46.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [17:42] Justbobbing (n=Justbob@212.183.134.130) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:43] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [17:43] meow~~ [17:47] http://www.surfline.com/surflinetv/sixty-seconds/jamie-obrien-and-rizal-share-padang-pit_29902 [17:49] AlexElliott (n=alex@client-82-3-90-48.manc.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:49] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "leaving" [17:50] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [17:51] . [17:52] .. [17:52] ... [17:52] ....? [17:52] ....................................................................................................... [17:53] --.--.--.--.--.--. [17:53] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- [17:53] -_- [17:54] ^_^ [17:54] ..|.. [17:54] \/\/\/\/ [17:54] Action: TwinReverb stabs fire|bird pprkut Necos antiwire BP{k} [17:54] >.<;;; [17:54] \..^..^..^..^..^..^../ [17:54] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:54] \o\ /o/ [17:55] TwinReverb: you started it. :P It all begins with a "." [17:55] \o/ [17:56] adrenaline (n=repsol@ip70-171-222-139.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [17:57] am i in /b/ ? [17:57] <: _ ;= [17:57] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-26-68-146.bmly.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:58] _,.-*'`'*-.,_ [17:58] http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1251368653367.jpg [17:59] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: [17:59] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:00] haha, the one in red didn't stand a chance. :P [18:01] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "out." [18:03] pipe that bird in fire [18:03] ino random right? [18:04] haha [18:05] turning my 350 cfm fan on... [18:06] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-144-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:06] toast put it in my computer when I was over [18:06] hes like here have my 120 mm 7500 rpm fan [18:06] from delta [18:07] Anakin (i=anakin@unaffiliated/anakin) left irc: [18:07] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@client-82-25-181-92.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:08] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-144-75.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [18:09] bhodgins: On newegg there's a 360 mm fan. :P [18:10] hi fire|bird :) [18:10] captine (n=captine@41.177.11.174) joined ##slackware. [18:10] y0 fredoslack [18:11] Nick change: fredoslack -> smiley [18:11] lol [18:11] Nick change: smiley -> fredoslack [18:11] cool [18:12] I like this one, its friggin loud as hell [18:12] louder than my rackservers [18:12] haha, nice [18:13] m (n=m@c-67-182-208-26.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:27] why cant it just use patch or diff? [18:27] ... [18:29] ThomasLocke_ (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [18:29] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [18:29] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.56.233) joined ##slackware. [18:29] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@190.176.165.97) joined ##slackware. [18:30] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:30] Kamel (n=1@adsl-178-199-150.jax.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:30] v4nelle (n=van@adsl148-181.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:36] BsdNeo (n=BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [18:36] captine (n=captine@41.177.11.174) left irc: [18:36] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@autodiscover.cusonet.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:37] for those who are interested: http://share.skype.com/sites/linux/2009/08/skype_for_linux_21_beta.html [18:37] Is it native 64 bit? [18:37] no :( [18:38] Not interested. [18:38] heh [18:40] user8937 (n=user0432@76.235.42.19) joined ##slackware. [18:41] 2.1 beta. [18:41] so we're stil being left years out of date? [18:41] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [18:41] no, the version number is no indicatio at all [18:41] hmm.. yeah, looks like it at least does HQ video [18:42] apparently, although built on top of Qt, skype for windows/mac/linux are completely different codebases [18:42] frankly, i'll be happy if it'll just find my camera and not crash every six seconds [18:42] guys on pentium 3,i must use hugesmp or just the juge kernel? [18:42] huge* [18:43] atom_fox (n=atom_fox@222.127.153.184) joined ##slackware. [18:43] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:43] whatever you want. using an smp kernel won't hurt. [18:44] i will see any diffirent with smp? [18:44] how come I can't use my "root" password on "sudo" password? [18:44] where can I check the password for sudo? [18:44] will i* [18:45] atom_fox: usually the password for sudo and the root user are not the same, as it would be kind of pointless.... [18:45] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:45] pprkut: sudo passwd root ? :) [18:45] v4nelle: probably not much, if at all. it does safe a bit of trouble messing around with kernel headers [18:45] ok sir, but how do I know the password for sudo? [18:46] atom_fox: its the same password for the user [18:46] its the user's password.. [18:46] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:47] atom_fox: note that on slackware sudo isn't configured. [18:47] thrice`: that's the first thing I do to cripple, err... fix Ubuntu ;) [18:47] :) [18:47] i've already tried to use user pass for sudo, still nothing [18:48] atom_fox: did you configure sudo? [18:48] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:48] not yet :( [18:48] BP{k}: wait..no auto-configuration? WTF?!?!?!?!?!? Stone age? [18:48] atom_fox: then sudo won't work. you need to edit /etc/sudo with visudo. [18:48] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [18:49] :P [18:49] Action: BP{k} slaps pprkut with a dutch herring [18:49] jiraia (n=Jiraia@189.27.95.217.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [18:49] slackytude|O_o (n=slacky@p54A774F6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:50] figabo (n=figabo@189.186.33.45) left irc: "Saliendo" [18:50] BP{k}: hahaha. I read 'stabs' instead of 'slaps' [18:50] haha [18:50] pprkut: :D [18:50] zomg slackware is nothing like what I expected! I want a refund! [18:51] quasar: urmom is handling those. [18:51] good! brb! [18:51] pprkut: never know, BP{k} may have sharpened and stabilized the fins for stabbing. :P [18:51] atom_fox (n=atom_fox@222.127.153.184) left irc: "Leaving" [18:52] Action: BP{k} actually had herring last week D [18:53] pupiteee (n=p@93.86.39.66) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:53] Action: pprkut arms himself with a swordfish. En Garde! [18:53] fight fight fight fight [18:54] lordgame (n=burlinga@c-75-73-75-60.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:54] mrcheeseycheese (n=rhodri@host81-151-102-54.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [18:54] Action: fire|bird arms himself with a hammerhead shark. [18:54] CeruleanC (n=Cerulean@unaffiliated/ceruleanc) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:54] Action: BP{k} uses the herring to chop the largest tree in the forest and let it drop on pprkut [18:55] Action: fire|bird watches pprkut's swordfish slice the tree in half, missing pprkut altogether. [18:55] Action: hiptobecubic grabs a regular gun [18:55] Action: pprkut 's swordfish was trained in Japan :P [18:55] is it called sushi? [18:55] hiptobecubic: fish n' bits? [18:56] you mean chips [18:56] yup [18:56] :P [18:56] :) [18:57] BP{k}: psst. He doesn't like that name. Makes him feel uneasy [18:58] how does one access the floppy drive? /dev/fd/0 ? [18:58] hiptobecubic: very carefully. [18:58] haha [18:58] (better answer: mount the floppy drive) [18:58] [ in bed ] [18:59] HEYYOOOOOO [18:59] insert it slowly [18:59] special device /dev/fd0 does not exist.. [18:59] put on some soft music? [18:59] candles.. [18:59] dim the light [19:00] is there a module or something that i need? [19:02] ThomasLocke_ (n=ThomasLo@unaffiliated/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:02] hiptobecubic: on my desktop, it's just /dev/fd [19:02] and [ in bed ]? ;) [19:03] fire|bird, that's a folder on mine [19:03] hold on, it's not making noise or anything... i'm going to open it up and see if everything is alright in there [19:03] [ in bed ] [19:03] alright *in* there, hmmm, how do you tell? :P [19:04] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [19:05] Anyway, serious question, on the laptop, I updated it which included the 2.6.29.6 -2 kernel. I'm using luks + lvm so I have an initrd, to remake the initrd, the image would be different, etc., but with this, the vmlinuz* in /boot is the same name, how does that work then? [19:06] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:06] the -c option clears the init-tree [19:07] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOan_0acqE8&feature=channel [19:08] Kamel- (n=1@adsl-178-199-150.jax.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] mrcheeseycheese (n=rhodri@host81-151-102-54.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:09] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.95.174) joined ##slackware. [19:09] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-2-106.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [19:09] Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) joined ##slackware. [19:09] good night [19:09] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] guys, any reports of Konqueror not finding firefox's flashplugin in kde-4.3.0? [19:10] (slackware-current) [19:11] shouldn't be, since -current is 4.2.4 [19:11] thrice`: of course I compiled kde-4.3.0 from source ;) [19:11] I asked here because I know there are people here (at least there were yesterday) running kde-4.3.0 [19:12] person (n=ed@92.8.30.14) joined ##slackware. [19:13] CeruleanC (n=Cerulean@unaffiliated/ceruleanc) joined ##slackware. [19:13] just had to crawl to my desk [19:13] bhodgins: crawl? you forgot how to walk? :P [19:13] I missed the shovel today kicking it as hard as I could into gravel and I think it bent the other way [19:14] user8937 (n=user0432@76.235.42.19) left irc: "Leaving" [19:14] and now I just leaned over and felt it crunch again [19:14] ouch [19:14] quite painful [19:14] I bet, that sucks [19:14] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:14] I'm only 140 pounds but yeah. its not often I have these problems [19:16] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:17] Kamel (n=1@adsl-178-199-150.jax.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:19] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-243.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:19] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:19] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] Nick change: Kamel- -> Kamel [19:24] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:24] pizdets (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:25] Glegnar (n=glegnar@host81-151-102-54.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [19:27] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.71.131) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:28] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) joined ##slackware. [19:29] Action: gem_cat offers antiwire a virtual offering [19:30] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:31] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-92.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [19:32] gemcat (n=GEM@207-119-3-168.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [19:32] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [19:32] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:33] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-2-106.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:33] Nick change: gemcat -> gem_cat [19:33] fErnandoMdx (i=960103@189.83.119.146) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:34] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:34] acidchild, are you feeling talkative? [19:36] acidchild, antiwire has been helping me set up wireless but I am not getting it [19:37] not getting wireless or not getting his instruction? [19:37] hey now [19:38] brb need to hose off [19:38] hose the gunk off [19:38] always feels good to hose the gunk off [19:38] gemcat (n=GEM@207-119-3-168.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [19:38] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-3-168.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:39] i just rode 12 miles on a mountain bike as fast and as hard as I could [19:39] nice [19:39] I should do that tonight [19:39] I've been geeking on camoflage the last few nights [19:39] Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro) left ##slackware. [19:39] briareus, I understand some things but am not yet getting connected [19:40] I picked up some spray cans of ultra flat camo colors and tried my hand at camoflaging a rifle; surprised myself to learn I am basically a Jedi of spray camo. [19:40] I have some presumptions briareus and that is not very safe [19:40] gemcat: such as? [19:42] well I suppose after setting wpa_supplicant.conf next is to run the daemon -B [19:43] gemcat: wpa_supplicant -ddd -Dwext -iwlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [19:43] that will test it for you [19:43] use the correct -i option, your interface's name [19:43] It's been ages since I ran wpa_supplicant. As I recall, I set up my config file, then ran it (deamonizing in the process) from a commandline, something like wpa_supplicant -c /path/to/mylocal.conf -D wext -i wlan0 [19:43] briareus: newer needs a -B [19:44] thrice`: thanks, did not know that. -B to daemonize? [19:44] wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [19:44] the one i posted won't daemonize and will do verbose debug [19:44] antiwire: you should do it twice as fast and hard as you think you can [19:44] briareus: background, yep [19:44] andli_: i was taching out [19:44] antiwire: gemcat yeah the verbose debug is helpful [19:44] there was no mooaarr [19:44] antiwire: gemcat yeah the verbose debug is helpful, and worth not daemonizing until you get it right (since you'll stop/start it a lot) [19:45] antiwire, is there a space after -c ? [19:45] there can be, I don't think it matters [19:45] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-24-1-225-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:45] gemcat: flag space argument [19:45] antiwire: maybe you need some fierce competition [19:45] -D wext maybe the same as -Dwext but some commands will be picky about that, even if wpa_supp isn't [19:45] ok I have alot of output [19:46] gemcat: if too much, lose a -d (-dd is less detail than -ddd) but the -ddd helps us in here most [19:46] it does say invalid WEP key [19:46] andli_: I surfed for 2 hours today for upper body and core then did the 12mi ride for lower and cardio [19:46] gemcat: can you show us your wpa_supplicant.conf? [19:48] gemcat: use a pastebin [19:48] gemcat (n=GEM@207-119-3-168.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:48] anothergem (n=GEM@207-119-3-168.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [19:48] Nick change: anothergem -> gem_cat [19:49] yes - first thought thought is the invalid stuff is in lines I did not edit - surely my key only goes in one place? [19:49] gem_cat: can you paste bin the config? [19:49] It's WEP so don't worry about us knowing your key, we could just break it if we had proximity lol [19:49] we need to see the formatting [19:49] haha [19:49] yes - but I still have to sneakernet it across [19:50] gem_cat: runrunrun [19:50] antiwire: good thing your not close to me then. :P [19:50] fire|bird: muhahaha [19:50] Glegnar (n=glegnar@host81-151-102-54.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:50] You'd hack my internetz and steal my packetz [19:50] and when a terminal popped up with a ton of rm * lines, I'd be goin what the...... [19:51] I'm in ur whyfies...touching your beacons [19:52] mbohun (n=mbohun@203.171.195.23) joined ##slackware. [19:53] person (n=ed@92.8.30.14) left irc: Connection timed out [19:54] person (n=ed@92.17.243.163) joined ##slackware. [19:55] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:59] ivandi (n=ivandi@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:01] those of you that like old Humphrey Bogart movies i think one is about to start on TCM [20:02] http://pastebin.com/d39115d94 antiwire [20:03] figabo (n=figabo@189.186.33.45) joined ##slackware. [20:03] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@200.69.251.233) joined ##slackware. [20:03] gem_cat: are you trying ti use WEP or WPA? [20:03] ti/to [20:04] what is your AP setup to accept? [20:06] Quiznos (i=1000@c-68-56-143-229.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:06] Razec (n=razec@189.56.86.141) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:06] WEP antiwire - sorry I am so slow [20:06] gem_cat: ok one sec [20:06] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-131-243.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:07] ivandi (n=ivandi@bas5-quebec14-1177724501.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [20:07] uh I think I see a prob [20:07] gem_cat: try this config http://pastebin.com/m1627864f [20:07] leave all the other examples out [20:07] Usuario815 (n=Usuario8@76.73.16.26) joined ##slackware. [20:08] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-42-19.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:08] anyone know why kbounce segfaults when i load it...dmesg says kbounce[17893]: segfault at 6fe68148 ip b6c8f41b sp bfa7a130 error 4 in libGL.so.180.60[b6c55000+8d000] [20:08] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-3-168.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:08] gemcat (n=GEM@207-119-3-168.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [20:09] news: holy Heisenburg Batman; IBM builds atomic-scale needle to probe atoms and molecules [20:09] Quiznos: dood you lag [20:09] I think MIT had one for a while [20:09] the tip was 1 atom [20:09] lots of data from freenode to process [20:10] i think offtopic [20:10] you aint the boss of me [20:10] you aint even a boss [20:10] Usuario815: You're just upset because no one can guess why you are segfaulting [20:10] there are questions on the floor [20:10] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@200.69.251.233) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [20:10] Usuario815 the prob is in libGL [20:11] kbounce shouldnt even use gl [20:11] it does [20:11] and it worked fine before..... [20:11] Did you upgrade anything? [20:11] then maybe the app gave bad data [20:11] What version of Slackware? [20:11] Which graphics drivers? [20:11] 180.60 slack 12.2 [20:12] i can upgrade the drivers...but all my real 3d games and such work fine [20:12] Have you recently applied the patches/ ? [20:12] misspwn (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:13] im on 2.6.30.5 with nvidia 180.60 [20:13] What has changed since kbounce last worked? [20:14] im afraid to spend 5 minutes upgrading my nvidia driver because often the latest ones are unstable [20:14] then i have to downgrade and all that after i detect its unstable from some random crash hours later [20:14] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-425457.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:14] Now that you have our attention you need to answer our questions as precisely as possible. When did kbounce last work and what has changed since then? [20:14] i only update the kernel and nvidia [20:15] oh...that's it.... [20:15] just the kernel and driver... [20:15] nothing of importance... [20:15] and i dont know when it last worked.... [20:15] you said "(2009-08-27 17:11:24) Usuario815: and it worked fine before....." [20:15] lee__ (n=lee__@wsip-24-249-195-93.pn.at.cox.net) left ##slackware. [20:15] i just saw a lot of segfaults from libGL in my dmesg for the last month [20:15] so which is correct? you don't know when it worked or you know when it worked? [20:16] questions on the floor.... [20:16] i guess its 180.60 that did it [20:17] maybe you should revert to the stock kernel and previous Nvidia driver and test kbounce. [20:17] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22041141 2009-06-02 12:50 /root/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.60-pkg1.run [20:18] If ti worked with the stock kernel and the previous driver you had, try upgrading just the driver and test kbounce again. I can say that I am using 2.6.29.6 with NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.18-pkg1.run and kbounce works fine. [20:18] it seems to be connecting antiwire [20:19] gemcat: great, now you can stop manually testing and try to stock scripts [20:19] to/the [20:19] its always nvidia, i should have known [20:19] gemcat: if it is connect, in another term try running dhcpcd interfacenamehere [20:19] hey if you guys do ps aux do you have entries like "klaun" and "kdein" [20:19] gemcat: you should get an IP and be connected [20:19] uh - it is doing it over and over [20:19] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:20] gemcat: it's not connecting then [20:20] can you pastebin us all that output [20:20] please [20:20] and does anyone know why ps aux shows 1000 instead of my user name [20:21] gnoel (n=gnoel@c-24-0-150-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:22] what is your UID Usuario815 ? [20:22] take a wild guess [20:22] 1000 is the first default UID, then 1001, 1002 etc... [20:22] ... [20:24] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:26] why do you humans think sticking your nutrient holes on each other is romantic [20:27] Usuario815: how many charachters is your username? [20:27] it is instinctual [20:27] 9 [20:27] y0 twolf [20:27] hey fire|bird [20:27] Usuario815: usernames > 8 char's will show up as uid. [20:27] artv61 (n=art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:28] thanks [20:28] np. [20:28] mm, I didn't know that [20:29] thrice`: see messagebus and haldaemon, both show up as 81/82 instead of their username :) [20:29] ***time for another glass of wine*** [20:29] http://jwis2009.nsysu.edu.tw/location/paper/A%20Practical%20Message%20Falsification%20Attack%20on%20WPA.pdf [20:30] you all best be moving to AES [20:30] BP{k}: aah, that's true; guess i've never connected the two ;) [20:30] It's still an epic level of an attack but they have a pretty good concept [20:30] m (n=m@c-67-182-208-26.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:31] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] giuppy_ (n=giuppy@87.7.172.121) joined ##slackware. [20:31] wow [20:31] greetings and salutations [20:31] gemcat (n=GEM@207-119-3-168.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:31] chopchop [20:32] gemcat (n=GEM@207-119-3-168.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [20:32] wotcha andarius :) [20:32] it boils down to the attacker becoming a repeater that only repeats specific client and AP traffic [20:32] hi andarius [20:32] wotcha BP{k} :) [20:32] BP{k}: and why does kdelauncher show up as "kdelaun" in ps aux [20:32] salutations hitest [20:32] Usuario815: try using ps auxww [20:33] Usuario815: no idea, I don't user kde ;) [20:33] WPA != Windows Product Agent me thinks [20:33] s/user/use [20:33] greetings andarius, how are you? [20:33] 1000 18503 0.0 1.2 48172 25612 ? S 20:08 0:00 knoti [20:33] make your terminal window larger [20:33] salutations to you as well, andarius:) [20:33] knoti???? [20:33] ah, wireless.. doesn't matter for me [20:33] quasar: wifi protected access, the successor to WEP [20:34] quasar: It really shouldn't matter to anyone who has hardware that supports WPA2-AES either [20:34] there is no point in using WEP or WPA1 or TKIP if hardware supports AES modes [20:34] AES isnt as perfect as you'd hope [20:34] well, if ever I decide to go wireless I'll keep that in mind :) [20:34] Usuario815: That's where EAP comes in. [20:35] If AES makes you nervous you just use PKI [20:35] any civilian grade standard was chosen selected as the AES for a reason [20:35] AES = broken rijndael [20:35] and that is exactly why I don't use AES on my disks. [20:36] MrJackson (n=MrJackso@173-86-49-91.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) left irc: "Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. This time I'm the bug." [20:37] cat /proc/18503/cmdline knoti [20:37] This paper outlining the new TKIP attack is something wicked. They are basically outlining a method to cause a communication blackout between a client and the real AP by using directional antennas on the attacking system. [20:37] why not just use the same mac as the AP [20:38] lordgame (n=burlinga@c-75-73-75-60.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:38] because you must for the client to only talk to you [20:38] if the real AP receives unfiltered traffic from the client, the attack fails [20:38] read the paper if you want to understand it [20:38] must for/must force [20:39] ok so my proc is corrupted.... knotify shows up as knoti in the proc cmdline file [20:39] Usuario815: seriously, make your damn terminal wider [20:40] it's cutting off the end [20:40] ok thats why i made it huge before you said it and then cat'd the proc pid cmdline [20:40] same thing [20:40] try using reset [20:40] ajb 8189 5.3 4.6 483760 94008 tty1 Sl 20:23 0:53 /usr/bin/firefo [20:40] omg, me too [20:40] ZOMG [20:40] lol [20:40] thrice`: you got haxed [20:40] cat /proc/18503/cmdline knoti [20:40] oh noes! [20:40] firefox is destroyed [20:41] damn firefo rootkit [20:41] you retards [20:41] that senor retards to you [20:41] I prefer to be called Admiral Retard, thank you very much. [20:41] GATT0 (n=Romeo~@host92-64-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [20:42] psh [20:42] cat /proc/2820/cmdline klaun [20:42] figabo (n=figabo@189.186.33.45) left irc: "Saliendo" [20:42] hi [20:42] jonsmith1982_ (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:42] giuppy (n=giuppy@host145-163-dynamic.26-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:42] Nick change: GATT0 -> G4tt0 [20:42] hi GATT0 [20:43] cat /proc/2818/cmdline dcops [20:44] maybe its the way xfce starts the kde services...i dunno, looks somewhat like proc corruption [20:44] yes, shut down your PC ASAP PLZ [20:45] MrJackson (i=Mr@173-86-49-91.dr01.wlbr.pa.frontiernet.net) joined ##slackware. [20:47] Usuario815 (n=Usuario8@76.73.16.26) left ##slackware. [20:47] proc corruption? [20:47] Usuario815 (n=Usuario8@76.73.16.26) joined ##slackware. [20:47] wouldnt a reboot..fix that? [20:48] maybe even remounting it first [20:48] haha has joined ##sLaCkWaRe [20:48] hahahaha zomglol [20:48] john_dee (n=id@93-81-71-92.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [20:48] thats hilarious [20:48] hehehe [20:49] I don't get it [20:49] antiwire: go lose a few million braincells..it'll make sense [20:49] it says you joined in the caps that you typed [20:51] antiwire have you researched the insecurity of tor? [20:51] x802 (n=jubei@cpe-98-155-140-177.hawaii.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:51] anyone experience firefox gray out while surfing? [20:52] here we go. [20:52] grey out? [20:52] antiwire, http://pastebin.com/m2d597a9 is what I am getting [20:52] Usuario815: I am very familiar with how the Tor netowrk works [20:52] and? [20:52] Usuario815: Take a wild guess... [20:52] gemcat: Why is it still looking for a WPA AP? [20:53] well is it secure? [20:53] Usuario815: Anonymity and security are two different concepts [20:54] from inet1.conf I think [20:54] and privacy is the synthesis of the two? [20:54] I think Usuario815 is echelon [20:54] heh [20:55] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [20:55] hi [20:55] I will try commenting out every wpa entry in inet1.conf ok [20:55] no im Cannivore [20:55] 'lo missyjane [20:55] and bbl [20:55] gemcat: I gave you example sections for rc.inet1.conf I thought [20:56] what do you do when you are feeling like you are about to get sick? [20:56] missyjane: drink alcohol [20:57] hi missyjane:) [20:57] I thought i put them in exactly - I even recovered the orig file from cd to make sure [20:57] and/or zinc and vitamin b [20:57] missyjane: off topic / gtfo / noone wants to hear you complain [20:57] lol [20:57] gemcat: If you are using /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf to hold your wifi configurations you really only need your rc.inet1.conf section to look like this http://pastebin.com/m30b883af (or similiar) [20:57] sigh slackware, you disappoint me today [20:57] prodigal1 (n=superdud@dynamic-216-26-202-163.tbaytel.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:57] missyjane (n=mj@unaffiliated/missyjane) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [20:57] prodigal1 (n=superdud@host-216-211-95-187.tbaytel.net) joined ##slackware. [20:57] thrice`: holy shit it worked [20:58] is supplicant a real word [20:58] yes [20:58] Usuario815: there goes your date [20:58] :> [20:58] she loves the bone [20:58] Usuario815: SO why did you pick me to bring Tor up with? [20:59] user8937 (n=user0432@adsl-76-235-42-19.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:59] cuz you are a script kiddie [20:59] gemcat (n=GEM@207-119-3-168.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:59] Out of approximately 293 people, you choose me to bring up Tor to? That's quite a lucky shot in the dark. [20:59] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-3-168.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [20:59] gemcat: If you are using /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf to hold your wifi configurations you really only need your rc.inet1.conf section to look like this http://pastebin.com/m30b883af (or similiar) [20:59] Usuario815: how does tor == script kiddie? [20:59] know your role [21:00] what about DHCP_HOSTNAME[4]="hostnamehere" ? [21:00] gem_cat: ... [21:00] gem_cat: set that to your hostname [21:00] karlmag (n=karlmag@it010246.klientdrift.uib.no) joined ##slackware. [21:00] antiwire: ill be watching you [21:00] Otherwise dhcpcd won't send a hostname field in its requests to the server and you won't have on the fly name resolution. [21:00] Usuario815: omgz [21:00] ok [21:01] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.60.120) left irc: "Leaving." [21:01] Usuario815: Can you tell that I'm naked right now too? [21:01] i have a camera on your Prius right now [21:01] My Prius hahaha [21:01] UNHAND THINE PRIUS! [21:02] Quiznos: is that you using some CGI chat bullshit? [21:02] Quiznos: it is isn't it? [21:02] you bastard! [21:02] oh you are naked...thought that was a fursuit....shave now [21:03] tor + cgi chat cuz freenode is jewgay [21:03] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-3-168.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:03] ah it's jeev [21:03] only jeev would say that [21:03] gem_cat (n=GEM@207-119-3-168.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [21:03] antiwire: his 5 day ban must be up. :P [21:03] im not part of your little e-friend namefag ring [21:04] apparently not [21:04] antiwire, I understand hostname to be the name of my computer so a field will be sent and returned with my isp is that correct? [21:04] anyway....gtg fuck your mothers.. PEACE! [21:04] not to your ISP, to your router [21:04] Usuario815 (n=Usuario8@76.73.16.26) left ##slackware. [21:05] no more jeev? :( [21:05] x802 (n=jubei@cpe-98-155-140-177.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:05] Well that was expected behavior, I just should have known. 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[21:53] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-171-191.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:53] <_budo> occasionally after i enter "startx" at the command prompt the computer hangs and X windows never shows up [21:54] I've this my home wifi network setup so client can seamlessly roam between three APs that are strategically placed around [21:54] this my/ my [21:54] <_budo> this happens maybe 1-2 out of 5 times [21:55] _budo: what's your video card/chip? [21:55] _budo, the log file can help diagnose your problem [21:56] sounds great,antiwire [21:57] <_budo> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) [21:57] look for clues in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or thereabouts [21:57] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:58] <_budo> what do i look for ? [21:59] EE [21:59] ok, try to make this hang happen. then grab that log and also dmesg [21:59] i think error lines begin with that [21:59] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) joined ##slackware. [22:00] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [22:01] anybody seen this: configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check [22:01] <_budo> i'm pretty sure its the video card and monitor configuration. is there something i can do to reconfigure this [22:01] i've tried reinstalling gcc, but it still barfs [22:01] confirm what? [22:01] damn, nope [22:02] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: "Leaving" [22:02] packeteer : look in config.log [22:02] packeteer: what are you trying to compile? On which arch? [22:03] wireshark, i386, using the slackbuild.org script [22:03] on 12.2 [22:03] is it really a 386? [22:03] ok [22:04] packeteer: is it the version the script is made for or the newest version? [22:04] packeteer: I had trouble compiling the newest version, but it was a different error [22:04] the newest, but this happens with any ./configure [22:05] eek [22:05] so you have a systemic problem [22:05] _budo: maybe adding Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" to your xorg.conf under section "Device" might help [22:05] I need a good databse-oriented file backup system for my ipod. rsync is too clow because it has to check everyfile [22:05] XAA is dead on -current [22:06] ah frack, prob coz i don't have headers installed [22:06] Stanto (n=Stanto@82-39-229-89.cable.ubr07.newc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit [22:06] packeteer sounds like something's grown corrupted on your system [22:06] oh heh, those help with many compiles, yes [22:07] mancha: running xfs, so hope it's not fs issue [22:07] doubt it [22:07] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:07] you said you didn't install headers...what headers? [22:07] kernel [22:07] tesing now... [22:07] testing even [22:08] I remember now, the newest wireshark compiled and installed, but when I ran it it segfaulted [22:09] oh yay [22:09] i only want tshark anyway, lets hope it works [22:09] <3 kismet [22:09] and yeah, kernel-headers fixed the prob [22:09] pebkac strikes again [22:09] that is my biggest problem [22:10] been causing me a lot of issues lately [22:10] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) left irc: "leaving" [22:10] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) joined ##slackware. [22:11] volkerdi (i=3321@connie.slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [22:12] alphageek (i=rooot@76-10-183-199.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined ##slackware. [22:13] AnonymousRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-61-43.si.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:14] Nick change: AnonymousRednek -> nyRednek [22:14] Nick change: Kamel- -> Kamel [22:14] Action: alphageek drops a pin [22:14] ow! [22:14] no response [22:14] careful [22:15] rworkman_ (i=3356@slackware.com) joined ##slackware. [22:16] Action: MLanden slam dunks a pumpkin...:D.....sorry,too much vintage Who [22:16] Anyone have any lemons? [22:16] X_X [22:16] and maybe a jar or something. [22:16] only if you bring the tequila [22:17] we got limes, and tequilla [22:17] *whoosh* :) [22:17] bobby (aka hitchcock) workman, spill your lemons [22:17] bobby is my dad. [22:17] I got lime juice and tequila [22:18] i got nuthin :/ [22:18] cept laaaag [22:18] misspwn (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:18] Action: thrice` missed something [22:18] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) left irc: "leaving" [22:18] hey thrice`, how's it going? [22:18] user8937 (n=user0432@76.235.42.19) joined ##slackware. [22:18] oh, rworkman, i have an interesting situation to mention... [22:18] ok, you ? [22:18] NetrixTardis (n=leoem@pizza.stealth3.com) joined ##slackware. [22:19] mancha: as long as it doesn't involve lemons, one man, and one jar. [22:19] thrice`: excellent, got slack64 on the laptop now, just trying to figure the wirless out, it won't connect. :P [22:19] bummer :( [22:19] indeed [22:19] it came up today...with slack's default perl build, @INC is set to /usr. this can cause a problem if someone CPANs a module with a file that shares a name with a system binary. this happened to a fellow with /usr/bin/hexdump today. [22:20] mancha: What's the alternative though? [22:20] put it elsewhere... [22:20] other distribs use /usr/loca/ or /opt for perl (i've noted) [22:21] Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but WHY would someone name a perl module with a conflicting name?? [22:21] iq issues. but the end result is the unwitting user gets his binary or other fuiile squashed [22:21] LifeForce4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:22] This is just *my* opinion, but I don't think distros should go that far out of the way to work around idiocy. [22:22] That user, as well as any others, need to bitch to the module dev about a name change. [22:22] coz they'll just make a better idiot [22:23] there is always a better idiot [22:23] but there is less better idots? [22:23] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) joined ##slackware. [22:24] mancha: that being said, isn't that @INC tunable via runtime in perl? [22:24] (IOW, would it require a rebuild?) [22:24] superGear (n=supergea@65-113-15-181.dia.static.qwest.net) left irc: [22:25] 2.10.1 is out anyway :> [22:25] rebuild, you can append but not change. you could force an cpan install elsewhere but that requires #1 you know there is a potential problem and #2 you have cpan fu [22:25] the question should be: is there any disadvantages to use some other directory (/usr/local or /opt like mancha mentionned) [22:25] anyways, just sharing. [22:26] mancha: I don't know whether it's something that Pat would want to "fix" or not, to be honest, but I do know this -- it *will* be forgotten. Wait a bit after 13.0 is out and mail it [22:28] Nick change: rworkman_ -> imposter [22:30] Might as well not mail that report. It's wrong for distros to use /usr/local other than to supply it, and I use /opt as little as possible. [22:30] hehe [22:31] oh, hello. that saved me an email then. which i would have forgotten to send. [22:31] Slacker. [22:31] glad to be of service [22:32] volkerdi: You ninja'd your way in here..I like it [22:32] kudos [22:32] I practiced walking on rice paper for 47 days [22:32] Who is she? [22:33] ;-) [22:33] So THATS what it takes..I'll rememeber that [22:33] ninjas are cool: http://www.realultimatepower.net/index4.htm [22:33] rworkman: her name is rice paper..pay attention [22:33] rworkman: ever own any knex? [22:33] i think she's in my PIM....1-900-GEISHA [22:34] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) left irc: "--" [22:34] straterra: knex? Pat is not the Keeper of the Toilet Paper, and I am not the Keeper of the Kleenex. [22:34] Seriously, what is knex? [22:34] :O [22:34] rods and connectors..its a kind of construction tou [22:34] toy [22:34] Ohhhh [22:35] extremely fun and pretty cheap..just bought a 1000pc set \O/ [22:35] Yes, I think we have some at school, in fact [22:35] oh yeah, I have those around here somewhere [22:35] Walmart has the 1000pc for $40 [22:36] _budo (n=budo@75-93-145-99.rch.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:36] it's like lego but then for less fortunate people ;) [22:36] can't beat the Lego Technic stuff though. Or "expert builder" as they called it before. [22:36] I figure..me and the gf will play with them..and if a kid ever comes along again..well..perfect excuse! [22:36] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Client Quit [22:36] What were those metal construction kits called.. [22:36] erection sets [22:36] legos rule :) [22:36] They were a pain in the ass..god yes, those [22:36] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.72) joined ##slackware. [22:37] I hate the erector sets with a passion [22:37] I have those somewhere, too, but all the machine bolts and nuts are missing... went to fix other stuff. [22:37] they have some cool estes model rockets too [22:37] at walmart [22:37] I got in trouble with those :/ [22:38] florda + those + drought == fines :) [22:38] hehe [22:38] lol [22:38] ok, back to my mod_rewrite issues [22:38] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) left ##slackware. [22:38] straterra: wasn't fines + wildfire, was it? :P [22:39] Don't shoot them at airplanes either. [22:39] I had a bunch of estes stuff. Anyone remember the "coldlaunch" stuff? [22:39] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:39] rworkman: especially while whooping and screaming praises to a deity [22:39] volkerdi: was that some sort of motor technology they tried? [22:39] fire|bird: luckily no [22:39] straterra: sounds like that involved other substances too. [22:39] CeruleanC (n=Cerulean@unaffiliated/ceruleanc) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:39] metal tank you'd fuel up with Freon, and remotely pull the plug for it to lift off gracefully powered by pure ozone depleting CFCs [22:40] Oh nice [22:40] don't huff the freon [22:40] lol [22:41] when i was a little kid i had one of those red & white rockets that was powered by compressed air with about 50% water, anyone remember those [22:41] got one here [22:41] Yeah, I remember those [22:41] those were cool [22:41] I always went for the rockets that would take the E size engines [22:42] One of the fins is bent, so it's pretty dangerous [22:42] You know what moving toy pisses me off the most? [22:42] twolf: whoa... we could only get Ds here [22:42] RC cars that only turn in reverse [22:42] The ones with like..no steering [22:42] straterra zomg [22:42] they sucked [22:43] I eventually launched a I when I got my Tripoli level 2 cert with high power rocketry [22:43] what's the term for that rod steering with the off center pin? [22:44] probably the wrong irc channel to ask, heh... but it was on topic at the time! [22:44] velusip: tie rods? [22:44] uh, no [22:44] if you want to see something cool go to a LRDS launch where they will lauch rockets with P sized motors, even clusters of P size motors into the upper atmosphere [22:45] LDRS [22:45] Large Dangerous Rocket Ships [22:45] Put some biohazard stickers on it [22:46] I was at a rocket launch where they used homemade engines on 2 - 3m tall rockets. [22:46] What'd they make the engines out of? [22:46] i've been to 3 real rocket launches [22:46] amonia perchlrate [22:46] "carbide", they called it [22:46] ammonium perchlorate [22:55] that reminds me of Pepcon [22:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMNKDP8bH2I [22:56] Tyrael_ (n=tyrael@c89089.upc-c.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [22:56] Yiv (n=yiv@adsl-145-171-117.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:57] Tyrael (n=tyrael@c89089.upc-c.chello.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:57] Hi, how can I find out what drive I should mount my USB from, i.e. /dev/sda? [22:57] antiwire: I'm not having luck connecting with my wifi, been using wicd, what files do I need to edit to set it up and not use wicd, rc.wireless.conf? wpa_supplicant.conf? or what? [22:58] Yiv: run tail -f /var/log/messages [22:58] fire|bird: what driver? [22:58] plug it in [22:58] fire|bird: rc.inet1.conf and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [22:58] twolf: b43 [22:58] ahh [22:58] wicd sees the wifi, but I can't connect for whatever reason. [22:59] antiwire: ok, thanks, I'll look at them and see if I can figure it out. [22:59] imposter (i=3356@slackware.com) left irc: "leaving" [22:59] fire|bird: good luck [22:59] straterra, Ok, what exactly should I be looking for? [22:59] MLanden: thanks [22:59] fire|bird: np [22:59] the device node that gets assigned [22:59] Yiv: what Slackware version are you on? [23:00] rworkman, 12.2 [23:00] straterra, I don't see any device node. I see the name of the manufacturer and model, etc. [23:00] Yiv: what's the make of the USB device? [23:01] MLanden, OCZ Diesel 4GB. [23:02] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:02] Do I need any SCSI drive enabled in kernel because I don't see anything in dmesg regarding "SCSI device"? [23:02] You need scsi disk support [23:02] I don't have any /dev/sda* either. [23:03] Yiv: if you're running a custom built kernel, then you should know this yourself. If you don't, then run the stock kernel. [23:03] straterra, Crap. How can I find out what SCSI disk support I need to enable in the kernel? [23:03] Yiv: re rworkman's statement [23:04] Alright, I load up my custom kernel see what I need to select. [23:05] ignore what you are told when you ask for help, always. [23:05] Look in the SCSI section for device drivers [23:05] twolf, Are you referring to me? [23:07] gh (n=gh@unaffiliated/gh) joined ##slackware. [23:09] nix_chix0r (n=misspwn@70-41-16-81.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] Fatalnix (n=bhodgins@pool-70-16-70-118.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [23:09] Hey [23:09] laters good people, sleepytime for me [23:10] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:11] SuN (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:12] SuN (i=default@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [23:12] Guest8626 (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:12] Dominus (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [23:12] Nick change: Dominus -> Guest55602 [23:15] straterra, Should I compile them into the kernel or as modules? [23:15] What's up? [23:15] y0,Fatalnix [23:15] Do I need to select SCSI generic support as well as SCSI disk support? [23:15] Yiv: ignore me, after a few beers my smartass mode kicks in [23:16] twolf, Cheers. :) [23:16] Yiv: yes..you need generic and disk support..either works. If you ever wanna boot off of sata, you need them compiled in [23:16] This is an old machine, no SATA. I'll just load them as module. [23:17] fire|bird1 (n=fire|bir@173.18.61.117) joined ##slackware. [23:17] wb fire|bird [23:17] fire|bird: wireless? [23:17] antiwire: Well, I got it working, with wicd atm, by disabling the security. :/ [23:17] damn [23:17] MLanden: thanks [23:17] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:17] twolf: Well, yeah, it's on wireless, but unsecure [23:18] Yiv: does your computer have usb 2.0 support or is it only usb 1.1? [23:18] twolf: So I must have that configured wrong along the way somehow. [23:18] fire|bird1: wpa? [23:18] twolf: no, the laptop only supports wep. :( [23:18] ahh [23:19] winter (n=q3@game.satkol.pl) left ##slackware. [23:19] MLanden, Only 1.1. The USB device is 2.0. :P [23:19] surprising that the wicd didn't handle the wep well [23:20] the default scripts in slackware should handle that well [23:20] MLanden, I hope you wouldn't be saying I'm out of luck. [23:20] twolf: yeah, I'm sure it's not slack, I'm sure it's pebkac :P [23:20] fire|bird1: that is 99.9% of my problem [23:20] and I think I just figured it out too, sec. [23:21] fire|bird: can you give us the output of wpa_supplicant when you run it like this: wpa_supplicant -ddd -Dwext -iwlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [23:21] This is for sure PEBKAC now. :P [23:21] fix it for your paths and such [23:21] antiwire: yeah, sec, let me see if this other thing fixes it quick. [23:21] the debug output will help us out [23:21] k [23:21] Yiv: ok,I won't...was worth a good try though [23:22] MLanden, What are you saying? Without a converter, I'm wasting my time? [23:22] no [23:22] it should work [23:23] Action: Yiv hits $> make [23:25] antiwire: fixed it, I was putting the wrong thing in for the key. :/ [23:25] cool [23:25] antiwire: I still wanna get it working without wicd too though. :D [23:26] I thought you just fixed it for the stock scripts [23:26] you just fixed it for wicd? [23:26] no, wicd [23:26] agrees with straterra...it should work as long as the device follows standards of compatibility [23:26] fire|bird: one sec [23:27] hmm [23:27] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-104.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:27] lol [23:28] cheater [23:28] what ? [23:28] who? [23:28] :D [23:28] when ? and where? [23:28] get your granny porn off of my pc. [23:28] ? [23:28] eww. [23:28] I'm serious. [23:28] i don't own anything on youre computer [23:28] grannys 40 and under only please [23:29] lol [23:29] lol. [23:29] fire|bird: http://pastebin.com/m15f9fb12 [23:30] the DHCP_WAIT option is what I find to work well for me. try it like that; you might not even need it [23:30] you could comment that line out if you want [23:30] fire|bird (i=1000@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:30] line 33 [23:30] DHCP_TIMEOUT (not wait) [23:30] ok, thanks [23:31] Nick change: fire|bird1 -> fire|bird [23:32] my disk is all filled up [23:32] on my laptop disk [23:33] fire|bird1 (n=fire|bir@173-18-61-117.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [23:33] my laptop hdd is completly empty [23:33] nyRednek (n=yosi@cpe-24-168-61-43.si.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:33] after my laptop broke i was bored [23:33] If I removed everything in ~/Desktop, I bet it would be empty [23:33] somehow I have about 35 gigs hidden in home [23:33] lol [23:34] all that granny pr0n [23:34] Action: Fatalnix peers at Toast [23:34] but yeah i filled the hdd with random data then overwrit the entire thing with 0s [23:34] actualyl no [23:34] you filled it up with wrinkly 0's [23:34] there is probably a few GILFS out there, but not a lot [23:34] steve__ (n=steve@pool-68-163-247-14.bos.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:34] i did a dd if = /dev/urandom of = /home/bhodgins/.cookie [23:35] Nick change: fire|bird1 -> phoenix^ [23:35] on you laptop [23:35] gross. [23:35] lol,twolf [23:35] he baked you a cookie, and you eated it [23:35] hey toast have you got your pokemon world game working in slackware yet? [23:35] :P [23:36] no i decided i didn't rlly wanna play it [23:36] addiction dude [23:36] addiction [23:36] actually i had completly forgotten about it until you jsut brought it up [23:36] steve__ (n=steve@pool-68-163-247-14.bos.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:36] you're still addicted to it after all these years [23:36] granny porn? [23:36] you just got an addiction spike [23:36] lol [23:36] no [23:36] pokemon [23:37] ahah so you admit [23:37] since i'm not addicted to granny porn all that granny porn must be yours! [23:37] hba (n=hba@189.188.149.112) left irc: "leaving" [23:37] Action: toastytoast points and says owned [23:37] you wsh [23:37] wish* [23:38] i only wish in your dreams [23:38] LOL [23:38] so who is the hottest granny out there anyways? [23:38] this is disturbing [23:38] phillipsm (n=matt@173-20-28-84.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware. [23:38] On many levels. [23:38] i would say emma watson but i don't think she is a granny [23:38] however [23:39] if she were she would be [23:39] The thing about granny porn is... http://www.eatliver.com/img/2007/2382.jpg [23:39] lol [23:39] Action: BP{k} is too skeered to look ;) [23:39] you guys are seriously ill and warped [23:39] hahaha [23:39] BP{k}: it's SFW, really :) [23:39] BP{k}: you can look, it's sfw [23:39] you're just saying that [23:39] hehe .. oh my good! ;) [23:40] :) See? [23:40] uhm s/good/god/ [23:40] so I must not get addicted to quake live [23:40] hey thumbs [23:40] anyone who looks still has an affectioon for granny porn in some way. [23:40] hi. [23:40] so Marisa Tomei, she is 45 definitely old enough to be a granny, and smokin' hot. [23:40] omg Marisa? omgomgomg [23:41] i dont need pics [23:41] pff [23:41] Action: Quiznos oozes [23:41] lol [23:42] her in the movie with joe pesci, in that tight dress, stomping on the front porch [23:42] screaming a about her biological clock [23:42] roflmao [23:42] My Cousin Vinni [23:42] yep [23:42] 45 isn't that old. [23:42] Granted, old enough to be a granny though. [23:42] not by a long shot [23:42] YEAH [23:42] troo [23:43] damn kids [23:43] yea, "youth is wasted on the young" [23:43] lol [23:43] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:43] see now i have to google [23:45] madnex_ (n=Nestor@189-015-183-035.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:45] Emeau (n=Emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-103-233.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [23:47] yo dawg, i heard you like to google, so i put a google in your google, so you can google while you google [23:48] Yiv (n=yiv@adsl-145-171-117.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:49] ok; i think someone is getting into my sys; how do they always know to ruin the varlogs? [23:49] you sure you aren't getting hacked by log rotate? [23:50] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:50] phoenix^ (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware. [23:50] nop [23:50] btw logrot sucks for rotating empty files [23:51] heh [23:51] but i said "i think" [23:51] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-69-105-44-91.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:52] madnex_ (n=Nestor@189-015-183-035.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [23:52] Parinoia will distroiya. [23:53] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [23:53] antiwire: ok, set that up now, when restarting rc.inet1, I get Error for wireless request "Set Nickname" (8B1C) SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported. I can't even connected from wicd now. :P [23:53] Guest16068 (n=xxx@201-92-114-86.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:53] antiwire: Yo. you going to be up late(later) tonight? [23:53] fire|bird: that can be ignored, I have been getting that for years [23:54] twolf: ok, but it still isn't connecting now. :P [23:54] agentc0re|work: I think I should be. [23:54] fire|bird: ahh, I see [23:54] fire|bird: now it's time to show us the output of wpa_supplicant [23:54] antiwire: ok, will get it, sec. [23:54] wpa_supplicant -ddd -Dwext -iwlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [23:54] agentc0re|work: do some voice tests again? [23:55] antiwire: we're almost done with our phone system install and i finished building (because i started from scratch) everything again for the latest devel of pidgin. [23:55] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [23:55] giving me a lot of trouble [23:55] this silly module [23:55] new one this time [23:55] agentc0re|work: ok, I'll re-pull and build the latest dev too [23:55] antiwire: I saw that it was also looking for v4l libs, do you think we'd need those? probably only if we chose those options i'm guessing.. but non the less. [23:55] antiwire: no no no [23:55] antiwire: i built the one you gave me. [23:56] ok [23:56] Guest16068 (n=xxx@201-92-114-86.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [23:56] all good [23:56] lol [23:56] my brain is about fried... [23:56] i've dealt with so much stupid crap today. [23:56] sidmario_ (n=xxx@201-92-114-86.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:56] freack (n=freack@189.58.209.95.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:57] I had a lady get all pissed at me because she wasn't going to get two phones in her office. Her reason she needs both is because she sometimes loses one in her mess of papers. [23:57] freack (n=freack@unaffiliated/freack) left ##slackware. [23:57] heeh [23:57] excuses are good [23:57] what the hell [23:58] phoenix^ (n=phoenix^@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [23:58] she loses a hard lined desk phone so she needs two? [23:58] that's amazing [23:58] hahaha [23:58] Oh and i came in dressed in Jean's today because of this install. I typically wear nice dress pants and dress shirts. I had this lady come and be all snotty to me telling me how it's not dress down friday... But here's the best part... She was wearing plastic flip-flops which aren't even allowed at any time... [23:58] WTF [23:58] lol [23:59] flip flops vs jeans.... [23:59] mlangdn (n=michael@72.4.62.5) joined ##slackware. [23:59] flip flop attire loses [23:59] antiwire: She had two, separate phones, each with two lines.. she also said she would sometimes use both phones one on each side of her face... [23:59] man oh man [23:59] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p5DC30353.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:59] agentc0re|work: that must be annoying [23:59] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:59] sometimes I have to go to the office in jeans/t-shirt [23:59] redtricycle: Dude... you have no idea. [23:59] b/c I left my dress pants at my gf's place [23:59] I'm glad nobody gives me crap about it tho [00:00] --- Fri Aug 28 2009