[00:00] why would you want to, piukeman? [00:00] hiptobecubic: no, then obviously the requirement would state the readme be separate. [00:01] hiptobecubic: or a ever heard of a tar in a tar file? first untars a readme, and a tar. Get the pass then untar the second. [00:01] the problem is that my toshiba is hot so more or less 10 minutes laters the fan starts but does not stops even [00:01] slackwarebob, grep -i pass readme [00:01] when the laptop it is cooler [00:02] hiptobecubic: duh. hidden password won't says "this is the pass: pass". [00:02] It will have to have something recognizable. [00:02] gregsparc_ (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:02] you'd have to read the file and think back and see what "could" have been a password. not something that's marked up. [00:03] otherwise, you could grep or awk it out. [00:03] honestly, it's just better to ask here on instructions. [00:03] you learn more with helpful chit chat. [00:03] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [00:04] slackwarebob, you know what would be better than that even? Just don't release the software. Then if people want to use it they'll have to ask you personally. Or understand it so well that they'll just reimplement it in brainf#ck [00:04] :) [00:04] Why is the boxee box so stupid looking? What were they thinking? [00:05] They had a great opportunity to market to 'everyone with a tv' and instead they chose the design firm that does AlienWare [00:06] gem_cat (n=phobos@207-119-5-139.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] "Here's a boxee box so easy your grandparents could use it!.... it's not a whole box though.... and it's tilted..... and it only comes in neon green." [00:07] how does one run the wizard that sets up xwindows in a user ? [00:08] gem_cat, xwmconfig i think is what you're after [00:08] thank you hiptobecubic - i wish I know how I trashed my x [00:09] will try that [00:09] gem_cat, what's it doing? or not doing? [00:09] ^Jenn (n=^jenn@unaffiliated/jenn/x-000000001) joined ##slackware. [00:09] well it hangs with a blank screen with a large x cursor in one user only [00:10] gem_cat, so there are many users and X works for all of them but one? [00:10] yes [00:10] Action: ^Jenn pokes acidchild [00:11] gem_cat, start X as a working user and make a pastebin of /var/log/Xorg.0.log, then quit X, start it as the broken user and pastebin the log again and we'll look at the difference [00:11] it has an error in the shell saying the user id could not be authenticated or something - if this doesnt work I will write it down [00:11] aha [00:12] When you make a new user, does it work for them [00:12] yes [00:13] gem_cat, do you have a file in that users home dir called ~/.Xauthority? [00:13] I tried first to replace that file but did no good [00:14] rename or remove it and see if it gets regenerated. Possibly also .ICEauthority if you have it [00:15] i think the xwmconfig will rewrite the correct files - and yes I already tried just moving them out of the directory [00:15] i will save the logs - bbl [00:15] xwmconfig just helps you launch the correct window manager/desktop environment. Connecting the X server is a little different as I understand it [00:16] (and thanks) [00:16] sure [00:16] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-241.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:16] gem_cat (n=phobos@207-119-5-139.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:17] sigh. just found a great program for organizing papers and articles and they authors made it OSX-only [00:17] ^Jenn (n=^jenn@unaffiliated/jenn/x-000000001) left ##slackware. [00:17] ydooW_ (n=ydooW@87.241.184.44) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:17] ea_suter, actively? or did they just use some OSX dev tool to make their job easier [00:17] their suggestion: run OSX in a virtual machine and run the program in that [00:18] haha wow [00:18] no they really developed it for OSX [00:18] ydooW (n=ydooW@87.241.180.55) joined ##slackware. [00:19] check it out [00:19] http://mekentosj.com/papers/ [00:19] see the features section [00:19] I cant believe they made such a cool app only for OSX [00:19] wow. nice reviews [00:20] pretty sure the same thing could be done with Qt to make it multi-platform and still keep all the features [00:20] Yes something like this would have been nice last year :( [00:20] problem is I need it right now lol [00:20] Have papers strewn all over my hard drive [00:21] ea_suter, sure, but developing in QT is not as easy as developing native osx using osx tools in osx [00:21] and organizing them in directories without a means of indexing them is a headache [00:21] yeah, I guess... [00:21] I can't believe i didn't think of this [00:23] Well there are a few things in there that might be tough to port [00:23] Like the iphone/ipod touch integration [00:23] yeah [00:23] that would be the touchiest part [00:23] HEYOOOOO [00:23] but I don't have either of those [00:23] Sure. Most people don't. [00:24] wow [00:25] x-ip (n=sakura@unaffiliated/x-ip) left irc: "Leaving" [00:25] the rest of the stuff would (*should*) be easy enough to make multi-platform [00:25] This guy/firm has a lot of really useful software, all of it OSX-only [00:25] yeah [00:26] How frustrating [00:27] time to re-invent the wheel I guess [00:27] :( [00:27] :( [00:28] notKlaat1 (n=klaatu@c-24-131-254-113.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:28] wertik (n=mirggi@95-24-204-103.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:28] maduser (n=kevin@pool-74-101-156-251.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:28] I hate how QT looks, even with the gtk theme, but i wish it were the de facto standard instead of just the option for people who actively try to be cross-platform [00:29] I really couldnt care what it looks like, to be honest [00:29] just as long as it doesnt look like Xt [00:29] :P [00:29] Xt? [00:32] think it's that old-school X toolkit [00:32] looks horrible and equaly as hard too use [00:32] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [00:32] ah [00:33] tk doesn't do it for me either [00:33] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:33] Nick change: notKlaat1 -> notKlaatu [00:33] well, it looks like Qt could also take care of the pdf and html rendering [00:33] sweet [00:33] paul0 (n=paulogey@189.34.42.72) left irc: [00:36] gem_cat (n=phobos@207-119-5-139.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] AUDIT: Sat Dec 26 23:23:31 2009: 11213 X: client 1 rejected from local host (uid 500) [00:37] ea_suter, you planning on rewriting it? [00:37] don't know [00:37] that is the only difference in the log files hiptobecubic [00:37] have a lot of college related work right now [00:37] maybe if a few of my friends are also interested I might give it a go [00:37] gem_cat, and you tried removing/renaming those auth files? [00:38] yes [00:38] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:38] at least some program to catalog and archive papers [00:38] but not both at the same time [00:38] piukeman (n=sebastia@host65.201-252-104.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "Leaving" [00:38] I can try that [00:38] the other stuff can come afterwards [00:38] also have to learn C++ first :P [00:39] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:39] ea_suter, haha [00:39] xbmc is slow, but it sure is beautiful [00:39] bbl [00:39] gem_cat (n=phobos@207-119-5-139.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:41] cbpye (n=cbpye@h21.104.90.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [00:45] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-5-139.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] worked that time [00:46] jrdave (n=firas@ip68-102-50-201.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] gem_cat, good [00:46] it looks like I had an open odt file that somehow jammed [00:47] i have been trying to get my mysql running today and have had mixed results with that [00:48] go on? [00:48] I regenerated the database and recreated my db users and now have even stranger results [00:49] jrdave (n=firas@ip68-102-50-201.ks.ok.cox.net) left ##slackware. [00:49] now phpmyadmin can read and write the original 'test' file only in the mysql user but the databases I created do not show up [00:50] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:50] and the priv are diff in phpmyadmin and in mysqladmin [00:51] Nick change: rapid_ -> rapid [00:51] but now i have reset - maybe something had to catch up [00:53] it acts like a different user with the same name - i set a pw in mysqladmin that phpad~ does not know about either [00:53] nice mystery [00:54] just glad the prob is not on my webserver :/ [00:55] this has to be some kind of weird permissions prob [00:56] about enough fun for today perhaps [00:58] I learned a few things not to do anyway ;) [00:59] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:21] So, basically, I'm trying to build a proper package for Symphony so that I can use it. :-) The RPM doesn't work, so trying to fix the RPM is as much work as just writing my own SlackBuild with the binary, so I'm first building a binary package, and seeing what I can find out. [01:22] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:22] are you working on lotus symphony? [01:23] sorry... arcfide, are you working on lotus symphony? [01:23] initself (n=initself@ip72-194-114-43.oc.oc.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [01:23] shonudo: Yes. [01:24] nice -- share the knowledge once you nail it [01:24] I'm sort of curious about alternative office suites that suit me. I'm usually writing everyting in TeX, my presentations in Opera Show, and my spreadsheets...oh wait, I don't have any. [01:24] OpenOffice.Org is just....o_O. [01:24] but at least it's there [01:25] The interface on Lotus Symphony seemed interesting, and now SoftMaker seems interesting as well. [01:25] Actually, what I would really like is some quality page layout software for Linux. [01:25] scribus [01:25] Word Processors are okay, but... [01:25] Nick change: dchmelik1 -> dchmelik [01:25] check out scribus [01:25] i think the thing that OOo has done is stalled development of alternatives [01:26] scribus is like adobe pagemaker [01:26] you mean writing all their source code comments in german? [01:27] mancha, are you talking about OOo? [01:27] yes [01:27] it's controlled by the german mafia [01:27] what i mean is, it's been adopted broadly, and so there's no pressure to come up with alternatives [01:27] and it's not that great [01:28] macros on OOo, for example, are a total pita [01:28] well, you can't pin that on ooo [01:28] they did an amazing thing, they basically said "we don't need ms office no more" [01:28] that in and of itself is a huge contribution... [01:28] i agree.. that was important [01:29] then they said, here it is, gpl'd so you can hack it to your heart's desire [01:30] indeed; and i'm guessing we all do to make it work the way we want [01:30] what they didn't say is that all their code would be in german!?@# [01:30] lol [01:31] learn c++, learn german... [01:31] not sure which is easier [01:32] or uglier [01:32] lmfao [01:32] lol [01:32] :) [01:37] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [01:40] arcfide (n=arcfide@ppp-70-246-149-137.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) left ##slackware. [01:44] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:44] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [01:44] Alt_of_Ctrl (n=Inacio@a85-139-225-144.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. 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[02:08] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [02:09] gr1Mo (n=gr1Mo@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:09] blackb1t (n=blackb1t@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:09] mohaa (n=nome@188.115.77.90) left irc: Connection timed out [02:11] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:11] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:13] blackb1t (n=blackb1t@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:20] anyone know if there's a slackware based vm/ve like proxmox? [02:22] fraktil (n=fraktil@174.33.171.150) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:22] fraktil (n=fraktil@174.33.171.150) joined ##slackware. [02:22] Xeliaa, slackware based? You mean runs on linux? [02:23] no, proxmox is a Debian-Etch based VE using kvm and openvz to make a 'type 1' or bare metal based hypervisor like Citrix Xen or Vmware's EsXI [02:23] i was just trying to find one thats slackware based. [02:24] rather then deb [02:24] qemu only? [02:25] qemu alone is slow =/ [02:26] bobby (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-231-19.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:26] Nick change: bobby -> slackwarebob [02:26] kvm-qemu is better [02:26] Hello People. [02:26] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/system/kqemu/ [02:27] CygnusX1 (n=CygnusX1@c-71-201-12-88.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:27] there's this http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/misc/kvm/ [02:28] but i was just seeking along the lines of a complete bare-metal style installer is all, saves time. [02:28] spiko (n=spiko@89-212-66-54.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:28] and being that i pref slackware over other dists hehe [02:30] nixchix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-213-128.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [02:33] slackbrethren, I just got some new hardware and I need to push it to the limit. Can anyone name any linux benchmarks? [02:34] or convenient test scripts. [02:34] and not the forking perl machine-crasher. [02:34] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-213-128.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Success [02:35] you could always contribute your devotion to slackware by making package for proxmox :) [02:37] *googling* [02:37] uh, the anti-spam gateway thingy? [02:38] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [02:39] agris: very tempting, cept that proxmox isnt a package. its a complete os with tools for setup and installation of guest vm's ect. [02:39] ok :) [02:39] It's a whole OS? Why would there be a slackware-version of it then? [02:40] dern now i got my brain rolling.. [02:40] cos slack's the better? [02:40] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn47.78-99-109.t-com.sk) left ##slackware ("breakfast"). [02:42] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:50] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:53] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:55] cbpye: phoronix's benchmarking suite is sposed to be best linux benchmarh from a review i read. [02:55] slackwarebob (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-231-19.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [02:55] initself (n=initself@ip72-194-114-43.oc.oc.cox.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:55] paul0 (n=paulogey@189.4.104.96) left irc: [02:57] Rat409, thanks for that, grabbing it now [03:02] sure :) [03:05] night guys be well! 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[05:07] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.82.170) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:07] Action: byteframe discovers goblinx.com.br [05:08] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-12-82.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Deuces." [05:08] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [05:08] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-74-104-12-82.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [05:09] Camarade_Tux, morning [05:10] ugh, there's an xbmc build script pending at SBo, but it's from before the latest stable release. So it's out of date and updates are automatically rejected. [05:11] :P [05:11] Have you ever used pypanel? [05:11] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:13] Camarade_Tux, ^ [05:14] nope, mostly because I don't feel like using tens of MB for a panel [05:14] What do you use? If you do [05:14] well, none :P [05:14] Action: Camarade_Tux really hates python :-) [05:15] :D [05:15] what do you have right now? [05:15] I have xfce4-panel right now from when i was using xfce. [05:15] also, <3 python [05:15] but you're not using xfce anymore? switched wm? [05:15] openbox [05:15] cbpye (n=cbpye@h21.104.90.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined ##slackware. [05:16] http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Help:Contents#Cool_programs_to_run_with_Openbox :-) [05:16] I can't remember which one I had chosen for "other people" before going for lxde though [05:17] but it seems lxpanel is standalone anyway [05:17] hiptobecubic: tried tint2? [05:18] Is there a wm other than evilwm that can be controlled from the keyboard? [05:18] or stalonetray [05:18] MarderIII: tons of, basically all tiling WMs [05:19] MarderIII, depending on what you're trying to do, you can bind most wm functions to the keyboard [05:19] MarderIII: openbsd's cwm [05:19] Tnx. Ill look for "tiling" [05:19] my favorite :) [05:19] lowkyalu1 (n=low@77-20-210-85-dynip.superkabel.de) joined ##slackware. [05:20] rignes_ (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:20] IrquiM_ (n=irquim@176.80-202-41.nextgentel.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:21] Camarade_Tux, i hadn't found tint2, but i did try fbpanel and lxpanel. Neither one felt very natural to me [05:21] lowkyalu1 (n=low@77-20-210-85-dynip.superkabel.de) left irc: Client Quit [05:21] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-213-54.dynamic.sbb.rs) joined ##slackware. [05:24] Much (n=Respect@ZL001253.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [05:24] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.10) joined ##slackware. [05:28] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. [05:29] IrquiM (n=irquim@176.80-202-41.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. [05:30] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-124-215.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [05:33] hiptobecubic: may I ask why? [05:34] Why the didn't feel right? [05:34] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-6.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [05:34] They just didn't act in the way i was expecting them to. [05:34] hmmm, how so? [05:35] velusip (n=velusip@fatwire-204-46.uniserve.ca) left irc: [05:36] vehn_z (n=vehn_z@62.133.182.207) joined ##slackware. [05:37] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) joined ##slackware. [05:38] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [05:40] usus12jari (n=duodenum@118.96.213.1) left irc: "leaving" [05:40] Camarade_Tux, you know. I don't recall now, it was two or three months ago [05:41] well, I haven't really enjoyed them either, they did the trick but they didn't feel that great [05:41] robertf (n=frederic@vedra.fredericrobert.be) joined ##slackware. [05:42] enfin, lxde en tout cas (donc fbpanel aussi) [05:42] Hello [05:42] I don't find pxelinux.0 [05:44] where's this file? [05:44] Camarade_Tux, plus I prefer my panel to be vertical, which apparently no one knows how accommodate. xfce4-panel is the only one i've used that wasn't ridiculous when vertical [05:44] well, the windows panel can too :P [05:44] robertf, /usr/lib/syslinux [05:44] Camarade_Tux, Sure but who wants that? [05:45] ;p [05:45] hiptobecubic: thank [05:45] hiptobecubic: thank you [05:45] Camarade_Tux, Have you ever heard of Verdun-Sur-le-Doubs? [05:45] hiptobecubic: errr, yeah, why? :o [05:45] robertf, not a problem. In the future try `locate ` [05:45] tappitahti (n=tappitah@88-196-188-224-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [05:46] Camarade_Tux, really? I was there summer 07 [05:46] Did you hear about that crop circle that turned up there? [05:47] argh, wait, messed up the name :P [05:47] hiptobecubic: ok [05:47] indubitableness (n=indubita@99.157.217.46) joined ##slackware. [05:47] oh i made it in [05:47] w00t [05:47] Camarade_Tux, haha. Not Verdun, Verdun-Sur-le-Doubs :) [05:47] whiskey [05:47] It's tiny [05:48] how tiny? [05:48] hiptobecubic: they're not even far away one from each other ;-) [05:48] 1000 inhabitant [05:48] s [05:48] Camarade_Tux, they are far enough when you are trying to catch a train in paris and don't know which one you want :) [05:48] hiptobecubic: hehe :P [05:49] there sure are a lot of enemy space craft in my favorite trading system [05:49] I actually pass by Verdun-Sur-Le-Doubs when I take the train between Paris and Lyon [05:49] oh good the cops killed them all [05:50] hypnotis1 (n=xavier@117.136.9.33) joined ##slackware. [05:50] Camarade_Tux, yes that sounds about right [05:51] wow [05:51] y'all from where the beer is good [05:51] I live in America [05:51] where there's no such thing as beer [05:51] just piss in a can [05:51] called beer [05:51] indubitableness, :D I'm in texas actually [05:51] hah [05:51] me too! [05:52] San Atonio [05:52] Camarade_Tux, so no crop circle then? [05:52] antonio [05:52] LUBBOCK [05:52] I tried American beer and, errr, I'm not gonna pay for american beer again ;-) [05:52] hiptobecubic: no :P [05:52] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@h80ad26b5.async.vt.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:52] I got a buddy up in lubbock [05:52] I haven't seen in like two years [05:52] or even talked to [05:52] maybe not quite that long [05:52] indubitableness, lucky him. This place is a trash hole. [05:52] he likes it up there [05:52] hah [05:52] really? [05:52] wow [05:52] I have never been so bored in my life [05:53] san antonio is too in the sense that there's a lot of garbage in the streets [05:53] And i lived in Verdun-sur-le-doubs for a summer [05:53] hah! [05:53] hahaha [05:53] Lubbock is just a big void [05:53] yeah he said it was kinda dull [05:53] but he's got a couple hot lady friends who put out up there [05:53] I think that's why he likes it so much [05:54] It's just a bunch of trophy wives grocery shopping in their trophy suv's with their trophy kids. Nothing happens. [05:54] huh [05:54] rich people up there? [05:54] Ha, no. [05:54] I guess rich people can have fun wherever they want [05:54] then how'd they get trophy wives? [05:55] dang man [05:55] I just meant the women here are mostly shake-and-bake idiots. [05:55] I have not had a very productive night with this video game [05:55] ah [05:55] i see [05:55] what game? [05:55] X2: The Threat [05:56] from Linux Game Publishing [05:56] great company [05:56] ports good games to linux native [05:56] they use some loki code [05:56] sh0ne (n=Unknown@cable-89-216-213-54.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: "Leaving" [05:56] rg3 (n=deckard@cm-85-152-205-35.telecable.es) joined ##slackware. [05:56] which makes me happy [05:57] and all their games are distro friendly [05:57] hmm [05:57] easily play on any distro [05:57] i'm real happy with them [05:57] and I've committed myself to supporting them [05:57] even though they only have four games I want to buy [05:57] and I already have one [05:57] and one's a sequel to this one [05:58] Looks a bit like EVE online? [05:58] it is kind of like it [05:58] X is one of the classic space sims [05:58] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [05:59] although I've never played X [05:59] it was for like C64 and stuff [05:59] old school [05:59] but x2 is more modern [05:59] my friend plays eve online [05:59] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) left irc: SendQ exceeded [05:59] and there's so many similarities that you can tell the eve devs have played a little X2 and X3 in their days [05:59] probably X [05:59] for that matter [05:59] X you can get for free [05:59] and play on dosbox [05:59] but i've never tried it [06:00] there's a couple versions and I think they're both less than 1MB [06:00] but Eve's universe is significantly more robust [06:00] and the gameplay is entirely different [06:00] there are similar elements to the gameplay but the implementation is different [06:01] MMO's don't appeal to me though [06:01] and anything that runs linux native binaries does [06:01] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@82.158.224.104.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:01] the lighter weight the better [06:02] speaking of which [06:02] everyone list off your preferred GUI [06:02] I like iceWM myself [06:02] but it'd probably do me some good to try something tiling [06:03] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-51-46.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [06:03] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [06:04] didn't think that would work [06:04] heh [06:04] oh well [06:04] more whiskey!!! [06:04] Camarade_Tux, it doesn't look like tint2 can handle vertical gracefully either [06:05] uh oh [06:05] hiptobecubic: bah =/ [06:06] shit [06:06] I'ma die here [06:06] there's a bunch of enemy ships [06:06] and one police ship [06:06] well [06:06] one ship capable of policing [06:06] might not actually be the police [06:07] see what happens [06:07] uh oh [06:07] he's coming after me [06:07] I've escaped! [06:07] mwa haw haw haw! [06:08] what a monologue :@ [06:08] :)* [06:08] thanks [06:08] I ramble a lot [06:08] and I'm new to irc [06:08] relatively new to slackware too [06:08] I've been using slackware maaaaybe a year [06:08] probably less [06:09] lowkyalur (n=low@77-20-210-85-dynip.superkabel.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:09] 10 to 13 months [06:09] something like [06:09] I wouldn't call that "new" [06:09] cool [06:09] I used to hate slackware [06:09] 'cause I couldn't figure out install my nvidia drivers [06:09] hah [06:09] Granted, i'm 'newer' than you :) [06:09] use ubuntu [06:09] indubitableness, those are in SBo [06:10] i tried slackware for the first time something like 2 years ago [06:10] I came from ubuntu [06:10] and i tried it a bunch of times before i figured it out [06:10] but once i did i was in love [06:10] ubuntu's nice [06:10] i put ubuntu on all my family's machines [06:10] I agrre [06:10] Ubuntu is pretty nice really. Things generally do what you want. But if that's what i really wanted I'd just stick with TinyXP [06:10] my os is ubuntu,too [06:11] although I stick with 9.04 for everyone [06:11] 9.10 can just go ahead and break everyone else's system thank you [06:11] I [06:11] don't wanna get called on tech support I don't have to perform [06:11] TinyXP? [06:11] hah [06:11] really? [06:11] that's pretty neat [06:12] I didn't realize there was such a thing [06:13] they got Slackbuilds for the GPU drivers? [06:13] I didn't know that [06:13] spit out a tgz package huh? [06:13] I'm so used to just doing it manually [06:13] I didn't even think to check [06:13] hypnotis1 (n=xavier@117.136.9.33) left irc: "leaving" [06:13] I discovered fuseiso just the other day [06:14] I been looking for something like that for a while [06:14] stumbled across it in slackbuilds.org [06:14] google was useless in helping me find it [06:14] or i would have been using it for a loooong time [06:15] makes pirating wine games much simpler [06:15] er [06:15] windows games i guess [06:16] fuseiso... mounts iso images without root privs, yes? [06:17] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [06:17] it adds compatibility for proprietary disc image formats [06:17] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-246-249.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [06:17] hallo! [06:17] like .mdf and .nrg and .ccd [06:17] Wie geht's? [06:18] so that if you have you can only get ahold of a proprietary image file for something you can mount it with a simple "mount -o loop" [06:18] instead of having to convert it to iso [06:18] i couldn't believe it man [06:18] i had been looking for something like that for so long [06:18] google didn't help [06:18] in desperation i tried bing [06:18] didn't help either [06:18] search engines are overrated [06:19] every time it REALLY matters they never find what you need [06:19] the more frivolous the thing your searching for the more likely it'll be the first result [06:20] heaven forbid you actually need to know something [06:20] Is there a "SILENCE" command in irssi? [06:20] yes [06:20] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [06:21] cteg: to silence a particular user? [06:21] sure [06:21] urthwrm (n=urthwrm@203-214-139-180.perm.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [06:22] ignore [06:22] ah found it.. have to use IGNORE [06:22] mancha: tnx [06:22] np [06:22] :D [06:23] ah man [06:23] i got ignored? [06:23] for being the only one talkin'? [06:24] ain't that about a bitch [06:24] I'd understand if it was 'cause y'all couldn't get a word in edgewise or something [06:24] but i'm essentially the only one talking here [06:24] blessed silence.. :-D [06:24] I'm TRYING to get y'all to talk as a matter of fact [06:25] So I don't have to just look at myself rambling [06:25] i wonder how i make an entry for a binary in lilo, like you can do with memtest in grub [06:25] indubitableness: you're flooding [06:25] man that's what yahaven thinks too [06:25] this is just how fast I chat [06:26] this does not count as flooding [06:26] well, imagine if 300 people chatted that fast [06:26] ah got it already [06:26] cteg: how so? :P [06:26] If 300 people were chatting right now I wouldn't have to spend so many lines of text essentially talking to myself [06:26] I'd be able to pick a few lines of conversation and join in on them [06:27] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30C02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [06:27] this is totally not flooding and frankly I resent the accusation [06:27] image=/boot/memtest.bin thats all ;) thought it has to be more complicated in lilo ;) [06:27] but I understand why you make the point [06:27] as I'm new to irc and it's obviously slower in here normally than I'm used to in yahoo chat [06:28] I WAS flooding last night though [06:28] I was posting lines of lyrics from pfunk songs I was listening too [06:28] drunk out of my mind [06:29] cteg: hehe :P [06:29] that counts as flooding [06:29] hah [06:29] I do worry about overstepping my bounds here though [06:29] I don't want to be looked down upon by my fellow slackers [06:29] especially not just for being myself [06:30] indubitableness: while this channel happens to have off-topic discussion that is tolerated, it's not meant to [06:30] ah [06:30] i see [06:30] well forgive me if I ramble [06:31] I'll try to restrict it to the times when there appears to be no topic [06:31] for example moments like now [06:31] http://omploader.org/vMzNicQ/flood.png <- see the amount of lines with "indubitablen"? [06:31] It's funny though, because he's not really talking more than the average person... it's just that no one else is participating [06:31] exactly hiptobecubic [06:31] I'd love to stay on topic too [06:32] Camarade_Tux, what the hell is going on on the right? [06:32] i could talk exactly this much about slackware [06:32] for example [06:32] how many of you guys are on 13.0? [06:32] hiptobecubic: dunno, I thought it was the nvidia driver but... [06:32] Is that supposed to be a privacy scramble? [06:32] Haha! It's not on purpose? [06:32] Tell me it's no like that all the time [06:32] hiptobecubic: I sometimes see something flash there but well [06:32] has anyone else had trouble with 13.0 and the inputs not working after a startx? [06:32] lol indubitableness [06:32] I've been on nouveau for a couple of days now and it's still there [06:32] Kidpunkx_ (n=Masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:33] like after some package updates the inputs will stop working [06:33] but only when you do startx [06:33] Much (n=Respect@ZL001253.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [06:33] they work fine in the command prompt [06:33] but the gui stops working [06:33] i haven't been able to figure out what's causing it [06:33] maybe firefox, but it's good news if I can easily check if the problem is still there [06:33] but i see a lot of lines reguarding "md" when it happens [06:33] i've only been able to fix it with a fresh install despite my attempts to find the cause [06:34] which are unprofessional at best [06:34] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [06:34] it would be cool as hell if someone else has experienced the same problem [06:34] make it easier to figure out what's causing it [06:35] it would be even cooler if noone did [06:35] hah [06:35] right [06:35] laptop? [06:35] like if it was just some stupid thing I'm doing wrong [06:35] instead of a biug [06:35] bug [06:35] it's happened on my laptop and my desktop [06:36] at first I thought it might be hardware specific problems but its happened on both a couple times [06:36] and I've never installed 32 bit 13.0 [06:36] so it might be 64 bit specific [06:36] I use the alienBOB multilib [06:37] but its happened prior to multilib installs [06:37] i've had it happen five times [06:37] three on the laptop and twice on the desktop [06:37] never seen the same problem in 12.2 [06:37] which is what i started with [06:37] Kidpunkx (n=Masterx8@28.178.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:37] of course it would help if I could give you some of the console messages I saw then [06:38] but it's been a while [06:38] indubitableness, if you don't mind, what problem is this? [06:38] no logs of it [06:38] it's the inputs all stop working after typing startx [06:38] i'm afraid to use xlock because it's triggered it twice [06:38] did you try startx with no /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? [06:39] no i did not [06:39] but i will if it happens again [06:39] after installing my nvidia drivers i usually go with the xorg.conf generated by nvidia-xconfig [06:39] which is pretty minimal compared to what it used to generate when the xorg.conf was still required [06:40] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0360F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:40] I've had the same problem with arch [06:40] but I was told I needed to install hal before i startx [06:40] and I did [06:40] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Connection reset by peer [06:40] but then I forgot to actually START hal [06:41] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [06:41] so I have yet to test arch after starting hal on either my laptop or desktop [06:41] lol [06:41] BUT [06:41] I have tried it on a VM [06:41] yeah it's pretty funny Much [06:42] but yeah even forgetting to install and start hal on a VM i've gotten a working gui on arch [06:42] in VM [06:42] which kind of surprises me [06:42] so i'm kind of afraid to try arch [06:42] although I know I'd love it [06:42] I also know I'll miss package-tools [06:42] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B499B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:43] and there's a chance my inputs will refuse to work anyway [06:43] but I do have some spare experimental partitions on this drive i made recently [06:43] with an Experimental home partition and the ability to mount my REAL home partition any time I want to use it [06:43] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:43] maybe I should stop playing video games and practice [06:43] ... [06:44] fat chance right? [06:45] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left irc: "leaving" [06:45] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [06:45] talk you fools! [06:45] come on! [06:45] unless you're busy developing [06:45] in which case you are excused [06:46] Action: Much stabs indubitableness [06:46] and i'm not worthy to be in your presence [06:46] hahaha [06:46] Oh noes [06:46] :D:D [06:46] i'm bleeeeeedin' [06:46] you' [06:46] re bleeding out [06:46] press X to call for help [06:46] hahaha [06:46] X [06:46] XXX [06:46] urthwrm (n=urthwrm@203-214-139-180.perm.iinet.net.au) left ##slackware. [06:46] Channel flood from indubitableness -- kicking [06:46] haaalp [06:46] indubitableness kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [06:46] finally [06:47] indubitableness (n=indubita@99.157.217.46) joined ##slackware. [06:47] man [06:47] I thought slackboy had wandered off [06:47] someone kicked me [06:47] This does NOT count as flooding [06:47] Left or kicked? [06:47] kicked [06:47] LagNode [06:47] by slackboy [06:47] specifically for flooding [06:48] unless that's an erroneous message or something [06:48] lag ftw [06:48] hah [06:48] y'all reddit? [06:49] per chance? [06:49] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-181-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [06:49] [-.-] [06:50]  _  [06:50] time for some music [06:51] and whiskey [06:52] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.14.220) joined ##slackware. [06:55] hi all. is this .deb pkg http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-64 a pure 64bit pkg? can you start it after extracting in slackware64? [06:56] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-127.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [06:57] i bet it depends on the deb ia32 package [06:57] and more [06:58] ...i can't find any documentation about this pkg and how it's compiled. [06:58] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:59] i've extracted it on my slackware64 but it has only a small README [06:59] wait a second [06:59] (ps: i'm trying to start skype without 32bit compatibility libraries) [06:59] sure [07:00] it won't work, i already tried it [07:00] the instructions for ubuntu require 32bit compatibility libraries (so much for it being truly 64bit) [07:00] where are those instructions? [07:01] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.12.106) joined ##slackware. [07:01] online [07:01] google for it, i forgot (it's been a while) [07:01] Axius (n=fim@92.85.19.66) joined ##slackware. [07:01] i was camping out waiting for 64bit [07:02] damn my vm isn't starting. anyway as Much said, it depends on the ia32 packages which is the 32bit compat package [07:02] tried out linux mint for my office but that qemu has problems right now...geez [07:03] kde itself has too many problems right now [07:03] select flac in kaudiocreator and it is broken [07:03] heh [07:03] encoding/ripping by hand is definitely NOT fun [07:03] yes. i've read this many times in many forums online. that's what users says about that pkg. but what skype developers says in their official site about? [07:03] ron1nDS (n=nds@70.44.167.139.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:03] it makes me angry they would call anything ready for use that is broken that bad [07:04] OclkdMan, i think it links you to the ubuntu page (not the forum page) [07:04] ah.... [07:04] I'm not a fan of KDE man [07:04] i'm not using those desktop environments for my self but what i have seen i think this gnome desktop of linux mint or ubuntu is more friendly [07:04] I'll tell ya [07:05] and stable [07:05] anyone willing to guess how long a 40gb atapi-6 5400 rpm hard drive takes to zeroize? (i.e. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda by the way DO NOT DO THAT!) [07:05] iceWM ftw! [07:05] Much: ok so we have only to wait :) [07:05] For the muthah fuckin' win son [07:05] its kind of a funny mix of xfce and whatnot. dont know. [07:05] OclkdMan: you can use skype-static. it doesn't need 32bit compat libraries [07:05] y'all don't care about swearing do you? [07:05] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:05] 'cause if anyone does I'll refrain from it [07:05] mako-sama, is it working on your slackware 64? [07:05] it is [07:06] mako-sama: how :O [07:06] ? [07:06] oh yeah [07:06] i got weed to smoke [07:06] download the tar for the skype-static, extract, run skype [07:06] sweeeeeet [07:07] now i try! thx [07:07] it's comes as a binary? [07:07] Action: Much is going to have to try that [07:07] like that? [07:07] yes [07:07] y'all ever heard of ASCII-Sector? [07:07] Privateer? [07:07] it's a precompiled binary with all the necessary libraries statically compiled in it [07:08] nice [07:08] that's cool [07:08] I didn't realize they provided that [07:08] my friend wants me to install skype [07:08] but I'm reluctant too [07:08] never been interested in it [07:08] that'd be easy to try [07:08] you will be once you start web camming [07:08] eeeeeh [07:08] logitech quickcam pro 9000 ftw [07:08] not a big webcam fan [07:09] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-51-46.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:09] or phone [07:09] or voice [07:09] well we are not a fan of your voice either :P [07:09] dang [07:09] i'm afraid to leave this station [07:09] had some people attacking me [07:09] hehe [07:09] CHANNEL [07:09] hahaha [07:09] doesn't surprise me Much [07:09] heh [07:09] and your name plays perfectly into my pun [07:09] turbo puns! [07:10] indeed!!! [07:10] haha [07:10] I like this room [07:10] this is a good room [07:10] channel [07:10] rather [07:10] heh [07:10] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:10] same thing [07:10] yeah [07:10] I'm so used to yahoo chat [07:11] there's bots in that place man [07:11] this is like grown up chat [07:11] big boy talk [07:11] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [07:11] and I'm the most childish thing here [07:11] haha [07:11] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:11] thing? [07:11] Action: Much shrugs [07:11] hahaha [07:11] stop it! [07:12] haha [07:12] ssshhhh [07:12] a bot? [07:12] not I [07:12] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) left irc: SendQ exceeded [07:12] do bots come into irc? [07:12] like is there even such a thing? [07:12] reacts to keywords ? [07:12] bots that control chatrooms were invented on IRC [07:13] huh [07:13] I did not know that [07:13] what about like the ad bots [07:13] you know [07:13] irc doesnt have chatrooms, it has channels, chatrooms are on aim/etc [07:13] the spam bots [07:13] is there a problem with them in irc? [07:14] there was no yahoo chat or msn chat when IRC was most active. [07:14] yeah mario that's what I was thinkin' too [07:14] I'm used to yahoo [07:14] hrm [07:14] this is way cooler [07:14] and bots were created to control problems, not create them :P [07:14] hahaha [07:14] makes sense [07:14] bot ignore spam yahoo irc [07:14] on yahoo that's what they exist for [07:14] to cause problemsd [07:15] the worst is in the christian chats [07:15] mario: different words, but they're all the same thing [07:15] which are the most active [07:15] wertik (n=mirggi@95-24-51-46.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:15] yahoo has chat rooms full of spam bots [07:15] some of the few with enough people online to even talk to [07:15] there is no real people in any of those rooms except horny arabian men [07:15] who gives a fuck about christian chatrooms on yahoo? [07:15] rooms, chatrooms, channels, etc.. same thing [07:15] hgahahaha [07:15] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-51-46.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [07:15] you talk too much [07:15] anyone knows how do i compile a plugin for pidgin on win? compiling it on slack was easy but for win... [07:16] no guide [07:16] wertik (n=mirggi@95-24-51-46.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [07:16] we got some good people who regularly come into the Linux, BSD, Solaris chat room [07:16] but we get a lot of them horny arabic men too [07:16] mario, you don't because i have you on ignore 8-P [07:16] on windows? [07:16] wouldn't know [07:16] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:16] it collects words form this channel and echos them back [07:16] I do talk too much [07:16] I'll be the last to deny it [07:16] but most of the people I know in meatspace talk at least as much as me [07:17] so I like to think I talk a regular amount [07:17] Azeotrope: look for guides to compile pidgin on windows. compiling plugins should be the same [07:17] and that you guys don't talk enough [07:17] nargon (i=mike@217.194.139.22) left ##slackware. [07:17] horny arabic men? lmao, anyone watching this? [07:17] mako-sama: ok. thank you! [07:17] maybe you read too slow [07:17] is what's happening [07:17] hah [07:17] sorry [07:17] that was uncalled for [07:17] bot, for certain [07:17] yeah, heh [07:18] wertik_rus (n=mirggi@95-24-51-46.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:18] easy on your enter key... finish the sentence first ~_~ [07:18] meh [07:18] sorry mako-sama I'm like that [07:18] I do hit enter too soon [07:18] but I break it up at logical points [07:18] notice that ? keywords get echo'd [07:18] usually, you'd get kicked for that on IRC [07:19] if I was speaking outloud you would hear the pauses at the same time I hit enter [07:19] Nick change: Much -> Finance [07:19] it's not like I'm being unnatural about the way I speak here [07:19] mario, my fault, highlighting made me think you were talking to me [07:19] I got kicked earlier [07:19] for flooding [07:19] indubitableness, imagine that [07:19] hahaha [07:19] use punctuations more, enter less :P [07:19] what man? this totally doesn't count as floodin' [07:19] dont' hate [07:19] just 'cause I got stuff to say [07:20] talk more [07:20] remap RETURN to ',' [07:20] hahaha [07:20] I like you guys [07:20] and gals perhaps [07:20] y'all funny [07:20] go back to your horny arabic men? [07:20] hahaha [07:20] the bot stays just under the flooding limit [07:21] MarderIII, why you gotta be like that man? [07:22] yes! [07:22] 4 million credits on this game [07:22] w00t [07:22] I need 3 million more [07:22] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [07:22] i was being nice tonight when i reinstalled someone's windows xp home. i hope they decide to be nice and pay me for my labor. [07:22] amen to that Finance [07:22] everything went smoothly? [07:23] it's still installing [07:23] going smoothly then? [07:23] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:23] so far i count 3 bots in here [07:23] mario are you counting me? [07:23] really? [07:23] there's too many people for me to even try counting the bots [07:23] yeah [07:23] mario: there should be only one [07:23] heh [07:23] Finance: if you want to get paid, wouldn't it be better to state your price before working on it? [07:24] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.12.106) left irc: "Leaving" [07:24] cmair (n=cmair@host92-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:24] well Finance said they were being nice [07:24] mako-sama, i can't help it, i like helping people, i have a bleeding heart [07:24] Camarade_Tux, are you sure ? [07:24] mario: gives the nicks [07:24] don't expect to get paid then. that's what I do [07:24] okay [07:24] time for drugs [07:24] more drugs [07:24] faster [07:25] Finance: but you always gain something from doing it for free :) [07:25] which is much better than money, imo [07:26] impy (n=impy@163.63-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [07:26] bla bla bla bot bla bla test :) [07:26] mako-sama, i do? like what, the fun in scanning their hard drive for interesting items? [07:26] mario: they got kicked? [07:27] who? [07:27] the bots? [07:27] (with this guy i'm going to have to warn him to stay away from LimeWire and porn, as he almost won the "most infected files" award) [07:28] nvision_ (n=nvision@p4FC0360F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [07:28] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:28] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [07:30] mako-sama: did you install pulseaudio for skype also? [07:30] OclkdMan: no.. why would you need pulseaudio? [07:30] pulseaudio sucks [07:31] Finance: I like to help as well, and it gives a good reputation too. [07:31] yeah while being a good linux ambassador [07:31] wertik_rus (n=mirggi@95-24-51-46.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: [07:31] you can't have ambassador without ASS [07:31] it's recommended in the skype deps. list, but it don't know for what feature it is needed. [07:31] you really think I'm a bot mario? [07:32] I'm just a slacker man [07:32] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-51-46.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:32] I'm a talkative slacker maybe [07:32] Finance: but I do charge people who are in a good financial condition.. also there are those who I'd be embarrassed if I don't charge them [07:32] sigh.. rejoined [07:32] but I'm not here to just fuck with y'all [07:32] impy (n=impy@163.63-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: [07:32] I'm here to talk [07:32] talk [07:32] heh [07:32] thanks mako-sama [07:32] 'perciate it [07:33] y'all been regs for a while huh? [07:33] mako-sama, one dude offered to just give me $200, i was like "dude it wasn't that hard" (apparently he had done so in the past) [07:33] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0360F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:33] wow [07:33] it was that day that i realized i am seriously in the wrong job [07:33] no talk [07:33] did he pay you that much? [07:33] impy (n=impy@163.63-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [07:33] or did you make him give you less? [07:33] Finance: yeah.. there are those types of people. I always tell them to come to me instead. I do it for free especially if they're relatives/friends [07:33] no i told him not to, but said he could pay for my bulgogi a few weekends (to get him to hang out with the church group) [07:34] cool [07:34] but this dude left his laptop with me, a complete stranger (the one i'm working on right now) [07:34] did he end up in the church group regulars? [07:34] well it's cool that he trusts you [07:34] and I'm sure he can [07:34] steal his money... [07:34] ... [07:34] all of it [07:35] heh heh [07:35] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:35] Finance: and there are those people who, if you don't give them an invoice, would try to repay you in favors in every way possible.... it gets embarrassing so it's better to charge them ~_~ [07:36] wow [07:36] I never would have even thought of that [07:37] excellent [07:37] well if he knew what i was going through in my life right now he would've thought twice about it [07:37] this is a good place [07:37] hrm [07:37] but still i did nothing evil [07:37] I'm intrigues not but hesitant to ask [07:37] Action: Finance stabs indubitableness [07:37] i was more talking about the security aspect anyways [07:37] hahaha [07:37] sorry [07:38] total stranger and you leave your laptop with them [07:38] yeah [07:38] Finance: there are people who trust others easily [07:38] that's always kinda weird [07:38] granted we're both military so it's not like "total stranger" [07:38] ah [07:38] they get tricked alot too, but they still trust people blindly [07:38] which branch? [07:38] I know a couple like that mako-sama [07:38] usaf [07:38] people I have a lot of love for [07:39] where you stationed Finance [07:39] ? [07:39] If it's not private [07:39] that is [07:40] look at my host [07:40] sweeet fixing to make a 300+ profit margin on this cargo [07:40] .... I embarass myself again but I must ask how Finance [07:40] I'm new to IRC [07:40] /whois Finance [07:40] thank yoou [07:41] you^ [07:41] <--- drinking [07:41] Finance: speaking of handing the laptop to a stranger, there was a big scandal few years ago in (china I think) where a famous actor gave his laptop to someone to fix it. that 'someone' looked into the hdd and found shitloads of pictures of all the guys' girlfriends (who were famous actresses, singers, and models) [07:41] drinking + irc, as fun as drinking + night swimming. [07:41] wow really? mako-sama? [07:41] Finance: the pictures were all rated 18+ [07:42] hah fuzzix [07:42] fo sho' [07:42] wo [07:42] w [07:42] mako-sama, it's so easy to do though, that's what makes it sad [07:42] Finance: everything ended up on the internet... [07:43] that's intentional ... [07:43] of course it was [07:43] hashi (i=hashi@creep.bur.st) left irc: "leaving" [07:44] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.174.52) joined ##slackware. [07:44] a playboy that likes to take pics... dangerous [07:45] and models/idols that don't mind thier pics taken in such condition... wtf [07:45] anyway [07:45] gottago [07:48] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:49] corretico_ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [07:50] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-427513.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:50] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.174.52) joined ##slackware. [07:51] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422558.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:52] dang [07:52] y'all cool [07:52] like y'all [07:52] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Connection reset by peer [07:53] But my verbose ass also must depart [07:53] alas [07:53] Maximum Verbosity! [07:53] indubitableness (n=indubita@99.157.217.46) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [07:57] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.14.220) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:57] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [07:58] El_Patron (n=El_Patro@189-90-198-159.isimples.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [08:00] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [08:00] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-241.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:00] Hi. I am experiencing something strange. When using Yahoo Messenger with a particular buddy, I receive 2 times his chat lines. Not every time but veru often. AFAIK this happens when someone is arp spoofing the LAN [08:00] Azeotrope, pidgin? [08:00] ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [08:01] Action: Finance stabs mbohun [08:01] use something other than yahoo then, like jabber [08:02] Finance: yes, pidgin [08:03] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [08:08] the only time i seen anything make the keyboard double up characters and text before was with xorg's evdev input module but a fresh X -configure fixed that [08:09] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:16] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:19] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.96) joined ##slackware. [08:20] red_d0g (n=taavi@208.51.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [08:24] dangit i hate ping timeouts [08:24] mako-sama: when i start "skype" binary in static pkg on slackware64 it says "./skype: No such file or directory" [08:25] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) joined ##slackware. [08:25] what's the problem? it looks like skype binary it's searching for itself. [08:26] (i'm root with x permissions) [08:26] OclkdMan, file skype [08:26] (run file on it and see what it says) [08:26] i'll laugh if it says 32bit binary [08:26] skype: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [08:26] haha [08:27] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [08:27] uses shared libs doesnt sound so static either [08:27] skype r teh lairz [08:27] s/lairz/liarz [08:28] basically skype devs can't tell the truth and aren't interested in making a half-way decent skype for linux [08:28] i'm thankful that they have a skype for linux but i wish they cared more [08:28] " says: OclkdMan: you can use skype-static. it doesn't need 32bit compat libraries" [08:28] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:28] "mako-sama> it's a precompiled binary with all the necessary libraries statically compiled in it" [08:29] " download the tar for the skype-static, extract, run skype" [08:29] oops [08:30] so he was wrong? or what? [08:30] looks like it (unless there is a 64bit static) [08:30] their other 64bit needs 32bit libs so i still say use 32bit slackware and 32bit skype package [08:31] the people that make skype are the same people that took over kazaa and added the spyware to kazaa, also an anagram of skype is spyke [08:31] o.O [08:32] adding spyware to kazaa? that's merely putting the spyware in the client rather than using the client to find stuff riddled with spyware [08:32] either way, people should've learned a long time ago not to download stuff from p2p [08:32] OclkdMan (n=OclkdMan@78.134.13.96) left irc: "Leaving" [08:33] remember that kazaa fiasco when it was bought and the people that bought it added spyware to it? all the windows users were up in arms about it, i knew that as linux gained market share and popularity this sort of thing would happen with linux too [08:33] that's not linux, that's skype [08:34] MarderIII (n=marderii@enneman.demon.nl) left irc: "leaving" [08:34] and i don't see any spyware hidden in skype for linux (am i missing something?) [08:34] the source [08:34] do you have the skype source code? no, because it is not open source [08:35] oh well, either run it or don't [08:36] cmair (n=cmair@host92-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:36] eventually linux will get an open source video conferencing app (i think it already has some but i'm not sure) [08:39] giuppy (n=giuppy@host140-168-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:39] Finance: ekiga, formerly known as GnomeMeeting ? [08:39] http://green.autoblog.com/2009/12/25/eko-vehicles-claims-et-120-is-first-production-hybrid-motorcycle/ 280 miles per gallon with a top speed of 40 miles per hour. If that top speed seems a bit on the slow side, well, that's what you get for the low, low price of $855. [08:40] fred, is it any good ? [08:40] Pig_Pen, i get 28mpg in town with my "Kei" car [08:40] Not tried it since 2004, worked well enoguh then. [08:40] suzuki cervo mode [08:41] "for gnome" (ekiga) makes me a bit reluctant to try it [08:41] with slackware at least [08:42] Action: Finance shrugs [08:42] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:42] me__ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [08:42] corey (n=corey@adsl-99-56-123-92.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [08:43] Nick change: paissad_ -> paissad-hp [08:43] here's a really on topic question [08:43] can i just throw out an old CRT monitor? [08:44] pr does it need specialist treatemnt like batteries? [08:44] technically yes but recycling would be more earth friendly [08:44] donate it to the salvation army or DAV [08:44] unless it works, in which case yeah donate it [08:44] out the window works best. especially if you live in a skyscraper or a top floor [08:44] on most military bases we dispose of the non-working kind via HAZMAT [08:44] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:44] be sure to quickly dart downstairs to inhale the dust [08:45] I would have thought that even a charity would punch me in the neck if i gave them a CRT [08:45] nvision_ (n=nvision@p4FC0360F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:45] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0360F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:46] naw, i have a working CRT in a closet i keep for emergencies or when i just want to use it on a temporary basis [08:46] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.12.106) joined ##slackware. [08:46] you can turn it into a Lite Brite 8-) [08:47] I've been keeping this one 'just in case' for nearly 3 years now [08:48] But if my monitor ever failed i'd probably buy an lcd [08:48] The minute you throw it away, you're going to need it. [08:48] Of course [08:48] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.10) left irc: [08:50] Finance (n=Respect@ZL001253.ppp.dion.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [08:50] get an old pc and put windows 95 on it and use it with that old CRT @ 800x600 to play solitare [08:51] cheaper to buy a deck of cards [08:51] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-51-46.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [08:51] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [08:51] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-51-46.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [09:06] alreadygone (i=1000@119.154.16.165) joined ##slackware. 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[09:14] libdvdcss & vobcopy [09:14] Pig_Pen: yes i have libdvdcss and libdvdread .. i haven't tried vobcopy [09:14] hi, guys, I want to share my INternet connection with a windows machine. Can anybody tell what am I doing wrong. Kindly look at http://pastebin.com/d3e994636 [09:14] libdvdcss is for encrypted dvds [09:14] it is easy to run, vobcopy -i /path/to/dvd -o ~/ [09:14] macman_: mplayer dvd://# -dumpstream -dumpfile MyVideo.m2t [09:14] alreadygone: your GW should be 192.168.1.100 ? [09:14] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.123.175) joined ##slackware. [09:14] I don't know. I don't know anything abut networking. [09:14] Heh ok [09:14] should I make it 192.168.1.100 [09:14] Yes, unless there's another machine involved at 192.168.1.1, but I'm guessing that's not the case. [09:14] if your ip address is 192.168.1.100 then the gateway will be 192.168.1.1 [09:14] Wescotte: but don't you have to play the whole movie for that ? [09:14] Pig_Pen: what? [09:14] Gateways are whatever you set them. [09:14] macman_: no.. It's a pretty quick process [09:14] TheGroove, no that's not the case. I'll do that and then let you knoe. [09:14] http://192.168.1.1 and look [09:14] alreadygone: you're also going to need dns servers on your windows machine. [09:14] cat /etc/resolv.conf and copy those, that's the easiest. [09:14] rignes_ (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) joined ##slackware. [09:14] I know their addresses... I'll add them in windows set up [09:14] ok thanks [09:14] Wescotte: there a gide some where for that ? [09:14] Pig_Pen: really, an IP or subnet does not dictate a gateway address. [09:14] macman_: not that I know of.. You can also rip subtitles too if you just use mencoder [09:14] the router does, and that info is predictable [09:14] macman_: mencoder dvd://2 -oac copy -ovc copy -o S01E01.m2t -vobsubout S01E01 -vobsuboutindex 0 -slang en [09:14] Yeah. What router? [09:14] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) got netsplit. [09:14] Rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) got netsplit. [09:14] Kowalczyk (n=kowalczy@macgyver.kowalczyk.be) returned to ##slackware. [09:14] Rachael (n=rachael@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) returned to ##slackware. [09:14] Wescotte: yea i just need to rip the main title with no subtitles [09:14] macman_: that rips the 2nd title off the DVD and copys (doesn't transcode) the audio and video into S01E01.m2t and creates subtitles files as well [09:14] macman_: main title is easier.. just mplayer dvd://Title#onDisc -dumpstream -dumpfile OUTPUT.m2t [09:14] TheGroove: are you smoking crack?! [09:14] Pig_Pen: are you? [09:14] Wescotte: and it does the audio also ? [09:14] macman_: yes [09:14] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.123.175) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:14] This guy has a 3G connection on a machine he wants to share. There is no router. Other than that machine. [09:14] macman_: but if there are multiple audio sources you might have to specify the one you want if it's not the default one [09:14] jomo (n=mich@p3EE22CD0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:14] cmair (n=cmair@host92-104-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:14] Wescotte: how would you do that [09:14] macman_: uh 1 sec lemme try and figure it out [09:14] And even then you can set your router to be 192.168.1.57 or whatever and that'll be your gateway address. It's usually set to the first address of the subnet for convenience but it can be anything. [09:14] macman_: -alang CODE where code is the two character language code.. [09:15] TheGroove, it worked \o/ [09:15] Finance (n=Respect@ZH023110.ppp.dion.ne.jp) joined ##slackware. [09:15] alreadygone: great [09:15] i also set the DNS address on windows machine ... [09:15] thank you very very much :) [09:15] Any time. [09:15] :] [09:16] Wescotte: so i just did that right .. im playing the movie right now but its the directors cut audio .. how do i change to the main one [09:17] macman_: try -aid # [09:17] umm.. [09:18] Rint_ (i=john@static-71-244-60-125.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) got netsplit. [09:18] konus (n=konus_fn@ns1.noxis.org) got netsplit. [09:18] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) got netsplit. [09:18] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) got netsplit. [09:18] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) got netsplit. [09:18] evo- (n=evo@p4FCF0742.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [09:18] Wescotte: there a how to on this .. i cant remember itall [09:18] also i need to convert teh m2t to a mpg .. is that hard ? [09:19] macman_: m2t = mpeg2 [09:19] ok [09:19] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78.134.105.73) joined ##slackware. [09:19] Azeotrope (n=JBauer@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: "leaving" [09:19] macman_: you can get documentation via man mplayer otherwise just google mplayer rip dvd or something similar and you might find some help [09:20] rignes (n=rignes@216.164.160.133) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:21] Wescotte: thanks a lot [09:21] macman_: What are you going to do with the files once you rip it? [09:22] very easy .. Wescotte im just copying these files to a wdtv so we can watch it in the living room [09:22] macman_: what's wdtv? [09:23] http://www.wdc.com/en/products/WDTV/ [09:24] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) got lost in the net-split. [09:24] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) got lost in the net-split. [09:24] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) got lost in the net-split. [09:24] Rint_ (i=john@static-71-244-60-125.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) got lost in the net-split. [09:24] konus (n=konus_fn@ns1.noxis.org) got lost in the net-split. [09:25] Rint_ (i=john@static-71-244-60-125.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:26] The-spiki (n=spiki@95.180.81.68) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:26] macman_: it appears to support H264. You might want to convert them to that as you'll save significant amounts of space [09:27] mancha (i=mancha@unaffiliated/mancha) joined ##slackware. [09:27] konus (n=konus_fn@ns1.noxis.org) joined ##slackware. [09:27] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [09:27] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) joined ##slackware. [09:27] Wescotte: yes h2k6 .. what should i use for that ? [09:28] macman_: first rip via mplayer like I described before. Then you can use mencoder or ffmpeg to convert to x264. I prefer ffmpeg because it generally is easier to do [09:28] you have any good flags for ffmpeg [09:30] macman_: http://rob.opendot.cl/index.php/useful-stuff/ffmpeg-x264-encoding-guide/ <-- pretty good guide [09:31] macman_: If your DVD is AC3 just do a -acodec copy but if it's something else (you'll no because the bitrate is like 1500+ kbps) you'll want to compress it.. [09:31] macman_: you can find out by doing ffmpeg -i inputfile.m2t [09:31] she_dyed (n=jazz@adsl-64-236-104.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [09:31] it'll tell you the audio codec.. [09:32] happy holidays! [09:32] macman_: If it's not AC3 use -acodec libfaac as the ffmpeg aac encoder is shitty [09:32] ok [09:32] any brasero fan out here, does the GUI show how many CDs are going to be used before you do the actual burn? 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[10:32] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:33] shit look at all those names [10:34] is this the busiest irc channel in the world or something? [10:35] try #ubuntu :> [10:36] #git is around 600 too but boobuntu certainly beats this [10:36] and quakenet and efnet probably have bigger chans [10:37] dont forget the two biggest irc ghettos in the world, dalnet and undernet [10:39] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:40] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:40] Billtoo (n=bill@bas4-unionville55-1176016450.dsl.bell.ca) got netsplit. [10:40] boojit (n=boojit@gw.carter.to) got netsplit. [10:40] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) got netsplit. [10:40] CygnusX1 (n=CygnusX1@c-71-201-12-88.hsd1.in.comcast.net) got netsplit. [10:40] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.43.160) got netsplit. [10:40] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) got netsplit. 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[10:49] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:50] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:50] some people have in their names n=blah@blah while others have i=blah@blah [10:50] ardya (i=ardy@unaffiliated/ardya) joined ##slackware. [10:50] boojit (n=boojit@gw.carter.to) joined ##slackware. [10:50] what is this n and i business? [10:51] disksets [10:51] CygnusX1 (n=CygnusX1@c-71-201-12-88.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:51] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [10:51] aka software groups [10:51] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:51] wat? [10:51] dry? [10:51] no [10:54] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:54] Reav_ (n=Sarge@41.221.87.249) left irc: Connection timed out [10:55] fraktil (n=fraktil@174.33.171.150) left irc: SendQ exceeded [10:58] Camarade_Tux: i have used it for some time [10:58] like it a lot, though some minor bugs. [10:59] and wow, dillo is so fast it opens before I give the cmd [10:59] what a piece of software [10:59] ness1d0rma (n=mike@78-134-81-149.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:59] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.113.135) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:01] dorin_ro (n=dorin@109.96.254.168) joined ##slackware. [11:01] me__ (n=me_@cpc5-bexl4-0-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:01] dorin_ro (n=dorin@109.96.254.168) left irc: Client Quit [11:01] giuppy (n=giuppy@host140-168-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:01] well, I'm rolling my own browser around webkit-gtk and I'll add a vim mode [11:01] oxiredo (n=dorin_ro@109.96.254.168) joined ##slackware. [11:02] mohaa (n=nome@89.16.15.157) joined ##slackware. [11:03] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.43.160) left irc: Success [11:05] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-65-54.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:09] alreadygone (i=1000@119.154.16.165) left irc: "Leaving" [11:09] Camarade_Tux: sry... are you coding your own? [11:09] camarade_tux i beleive that already exists [11:10] egregor: webkit-gtk gives you a rendering engine, I'm doing the rest [11:10] CcSsNET: sure but mine won't completely suck :P [11:10] lol [11:10] spiko (n=spiko@89-212-66-54.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:10] its involving a vim mode of course it will :P [11:10] Action: Camarade_Tux stabs CcSsNET [11:10] Action: CcSsNET waves the nano flag [11:11] well, if you feel like contributing a mode... :P [11:11] (not right now though) [11:11] a nano mode would be nice :D [11:11] although ive been trying to get the geany devs to involve a nano mode also [11:11] grrrr to them [11:11] it has a vim mode? [11:11] s/vim/vi/ [11:12] no clue [11:12] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:12] im just looking forward to the ctrl-k ctrl-u features of nano for geany [11:12] the multi line kut its amazing [11:12] geany needs it [11:13] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:14] The-Croupier (n=agapi@79.103.15.175.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:14] and ht is not a bad editor for those that are fans of edit.com or exe forget what it was [11:15] gasp qbasic [11:16] The-Crou1ier (n=agapi@79.103.15.175.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:16] OldGringo (n=amigo@p54B0DDF9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. 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[11:28] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-127.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [11:29] corey (n=corey@adsl-99-56-123-92.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:31] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [11:32] freebse (n=freebse@g226090165.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [11:37] sQuEE (n=narya@host80.201-252-49.telecom.net.ar) left irc: "fnord!!" [11:37] Guest59660 (n=inconsis@65.125.138.2) left irc: "Leaving" [11:38] anyone use LIRC ? [11:39] corey (n=corey@adsl-99-56-123-92.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:39] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:40] mac-: we all use nc [11:40] nc ? [11:41] nacho__ (n=nacho@190.51.24.241) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:41] mac, you are using a remote or some sort, yes? [11:42] I have problem with lack of remote for may DVD/VCR [11:42] then got idea to use mu built-in IrDA port in my ThinPad T21 [11:42] yeah; i've played around with lirc, never have gotten the hang of it [11:42] wanted to get a keyspan thing working [11:42] mac-: yeah, netcat [11:43] after two hours of fight got situation, when dmesg returns: lirc_sir: Installed. [11:43] dev created but ... cant send or record signals ... [11:44] from irsend it is ok, but nothing sant, when trying to record from another remote it tells taht there wasnt any signal for 10 seconds and exit :/ [11:44] Are you certain your IrDA port will work with a generic remote? A lot of them won't. [11:44] in IBM T21 ? [11:44] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:44] it should [11:45] many people wrote over the Internet that it owrks fine [11:45] Ok [11:45] ^kleanchap_ (n=kleancha@p5DC30C02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:45] have you checked to see if it's a permissions thing (i.e., it works as root, but not as user)? [11:45] best i can offer [11:46] all now I`m doing as root [11:47] irsend -d /dev/lircd SEND_ONCE "Panasonic_EUR7720KL0" dvd [11:47] buffer: -SUCCESS- [11:47] ;p [11:47] it works? [11:47] nope :P [11:47] but wrote SUCCESS :P [11:47] silly ... [11:47] lol [11:47] well, that's something [11:48] it's like using k3b, making a coaster, but still getting the trumpet "charge" tune [11:49] it looks like everything work except infrared diode :P [11:50] mac, when you do figure it out, let me know (i've been wanting to do the same thing for an htpc) [11:50] all software confirms that data has been put out except hardware somwhere in the end of rad :P [11:50] d0gsanfjl (n=taavi@208.51.196.88.dyn.estpak.ee) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:57] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [11:58] Karu (n=chatzill@78-28-96-51.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:59] mbohun (n=mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:00] Reav_1 (n=Sarge@41.221.87.249) joined ##slackware. [12:02] Karu (n=chatzill@78-28-96-51.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [12:02] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:28] Urchlay: seems like you're pretty much fsck'ed up :P [12:28] freebse (n=freebse@g226090165.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:30] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) joined ##slackware. [12:30] Is anyone here ? [12:30] Hello [12:31] Yes? [12:32] nope, nobody [12:32] Here's a potentially bad idea I'll put out for people to kick around: during setup menu mode, would it be a nice idea for typing ? to cause the txt file for a given package to be displayed? [12:33] mail pat/write this functionnality and test it [12:33] Why are two type of init directory on slackware ? /etc/init.d/ , /etc/rc.d/ , why ? [12:34] init.d is for compat [12:34] compatibility [12:34] his question was if it would be a nice idea [12:34] In /etc/init.d/ , there is nothing [12:34] ...compatibility [12:34] antiwire: Please explain [12:35] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30C02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [12:35] less /etc/init.d/README.functions [12:35] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.29) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:36] I'm thinking of something similar to ? support for the kernel's 'make menuconfig'. [12:37] anyone used a ps3 controller in linux before? :) [12:37] corey (n=corey@adsl-99-56-123-92.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving." [12:38] I've not read the code for the setup scripts yet, so I've no idea how big a hack it is, but given that the menu needs to know about the t{g,x}z available, I don't think it should be hard. [12:38] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-65-51.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [12:38] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [12:38] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [12:39] Still, I'm wondering if I'm the only seeing a need here. [12:39] s/only/only one/ [12:39] Wescotte: hey thank you for earlier about mplay etc .. im ripping movies like no other .. i actaully found a thread with a lot of commands [12:39] nope, thought about it before [12:39] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [12:40] its so fast ripping with mplayer . it will rip a 5 gig file in about 5 mins [12:40] coolkehon (n=neo@unaffiliated/coolkehon) joined ##slackware. [12:40] hi [12:41] i just got slack installed :D [12:42] Is brialL here ? [12:42] /whois [12:42] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:42] It's not even September yet [12:42] What's the nick for brianL ? [12:43] maybe....brianL ? [12:43] brianL is from linuxquestions.org [12:43] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:43] This is bullshit [12:43] laj_ (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:43] rip a 5 gig movie in 5 minutes? that's impossible [12:43] Karu (n=alch@78-28-96-51.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [12:43] What's BS, antiwire? [12:43] Linux-IRC has somehow managed to become registered [12:43] i have lilo installed as the bootloader but i wanted to know if it was possible to use grub and you guys recommend it (opinions please)? and as a note i have an encrypted lvm slackware install [12:44] thrice`: actually I've been able to encode in h264 a standard res video at a speed of 800fps [12:44] What do you need grub for? [12:44] and the movie was 50GB :D [12:44] caoliver, i also have linux mint installed [12:44] registered and cloaked [12:44] Camarade_Tux, wtf? I encode dvd -> h264 regularly, and get ~ 45fps [12:44] dvd,dvdv,dvd [12:45] but I couldn't use mplayer to decode faster than 25fps (I did it in two steps) [12:45] grub also allows for a custom background and menu colors (although i think lilo does too) [12:45] thrice`: quad-core :P [12:45] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-100-10.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:45] thrice`: and x264 --preset ultrafast [12:45] coolkehon: you can write a lilo stanza for mint's kernel and initrd. [12:45] thrice`: Do you know the nick of brianL ? [12:45] I was actually limited by I/O [12:45] err.... initramfs. [12:45] I have a dual core, which of course is less, but 800 seems almost unbelievable [12:45] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Linux-IRC, ? [12:45] caoliver, already did [12:45] So you don't need grub then. [12:45] just wondering if grub could do slackware's encrypted install [12:46] thrice`: Do you have an account on linuxquestions.org [12:46] yes [12:46] I've not done that. Do you mean root on LUKS? [12:46] i like lilo and grubs (legacy) editable config. the new grub doesn't allow you to edit configs to well [12:46] caoliver, yeah [12:46] swap also [12:46] Linux-IRC: Why don't you ask your actual question instead of meta questions? Someone else might be able to help you if a real question is asked. [12:47] thrice`: standard res: 720p would have been 4 times slower: 200fps and as I said, x264 --preset ultrafast [12:47] Rave2byte (n=She@p4FC91921.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:47] hi @ll [12:47] hi [12:47] That's not that hard, but needs a custom initramfs. I have my ssl certificate authority on a key drive which boots that way. [12:47] plus kernel 2.6.32 which has a scheduler fix which makes encoding with x264 muuuuuuuuuuuch faster [12:47] caoliver, i have the custom initramfs in another boot partition already [12:48] Obviously a fan of pain. [12:48] thrice`: What's your account on linuxquestions.org ? [12:48] account name [12:48] caoliver: Eric has got some preliminary support for luks keyfiles on usb drives done and queued (hopefully) for later -current [12:48] why do you want to know? [12:48] i need some help, i installed slackware, now after login - how i get graphical desktop? [12:48] startx [12:49] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:49] Rave2byte: startx or init 4 [12:49] Rave2byte: have a look at http://slackbook.org - it's not completely up to date, but that part is. [12:49] rworkman: Do you mean key slots detached from the partition? [12:49] rworkman: Hello, what are you doing now ? Do you use kde or window manager ? [12:49] partition ::= volume. [12:49] thx guys [12:49] dammit i thaugt it is init 5 ^^ [12:49] runlevel 5 is configured as runlevel 3 (as per /etc/inittab) ;) [12:50] ahh ok :) [12:50] I thought runlevel 5 usualy invoked xdm? [12:50] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:50] caoliver: this may not answer your question, but as I understand it, you would be able to have a key on a removable usb thumbdrive, and if it's inserted, the system boots without asking a passphrase [12:50] Linux-IRC: why? [12:51] rworkman: May be you use slackware current, [12:51] with kde latest [12:51] caoliver: perhaps on other distros? slackware always used '4' for whatever ?DM of choice (see rc.4) and 2 and 5 are not used but configured as '3' [12:51] Action: BP{k} smells a troll. [12:51] Linux-IRC: can you please just ask your damn question. A lot of us run -current. [12:51] Ah. I'll have to look at this. In the case of my CA, the whole thing (kernel+iniramfs with busybox) lives on the keydrive. [12:52] BP{k}: he's registered and has managed to cloak which suggests slightly more intelligence than is being displayed. [12:52] BP{k}: troll? Not I! [12:52] just smelly then huh? [12:52] ;) [12:53] caoliver: no, not you. [12:53] ness1d0rma (n=mike@78-134-67-159.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [12:53] caoliver: I wasn't referring to you. Apologies if it came across that way. :) [12:53] nessundorma (n=mike@78-134-75-182.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Connection timed out [12:53] kukukk (i=1000@188.24.65.54) joined ##slackware. [12:54] Does anyone know the nick name of "BrianL" from linuxquestions.org ? [12:54] no. [12:54] I have seen it before. He posts enough on the forums. [12:54] ask on that website. [12:55] Linux-IRC: message him on LQ. If he doesn't respond, then he must not want to talk. [12:55] Everyone on LQ is not on IRC and vice versa. [12:55] I agree [12:55] That's good. [12:56] hmm in suse i've yast for system settings, do slack has something like yast? [12:56] or just konsole? [12:56] Rave2byte: From a terminal, do: printf "$(whoami)\n" [12:56] I'm waiting to have a slackware system ,that will have the option to upgrade from slackware 13 to slackware 14 with only one command [12:57] ok this is a troll [12:57] Linux-IRC: I'm waiting for a threesome with Eliza Dushku and my wife. [12:57] i officially stamp this certified troll bait [12:57] like aptitude dist-upgrade [12:57] it's an imperfect world ... [12:57] BP{k}: indeed. [12:58] rworkman: why not just run "whoami"? without the printf [12:58] Is anyone here above 60 years of age? [12:58] Camarade_Tux: I had ot make it look sophisticated. [12:58] well at least the troll was smart and masked his ip. [12:58] ;-) [12:58] hehe :P [12:58] Action: rworkman declares it troll season. [12:58] rworkman: when ever is it not? [12:58] Linux-IRC, I'm below 60 yers of age [12:58] agentc0re: good question. [12:59] rworkman: bah, no rifle here [12:59] Linux-IRC: does it matter how old anyone is? [12:59] I don't usually hunt in Paris :P [12:59] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [12:59] ElectRo` (n=ElectRo@63-231-227-3.mpls.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [12:59] ElectRo`, [12:59] wats up [12:59] Camarade_Tux: I am sure there are places in Paris where you can buy that stuff? [12:59] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:59] ##slackware: mode change '+b %Linux-IRA!*@*' by rworkman!i=3356@about/slackware/rworkman [12:59] Won't turn 60 for a while. Do have a great deal of gray hair though. :-( [12:59] bang... missed. ;-) [12:59] coolkehon, U [13:00] fine [13:00] BP{k}: yeah but not like you'd hunt in Paris :P [13:00] Watch where you point that thing! [13:00] ##slackware: mode change '-o rworkman' by rworkman!i=3356@about/slackware/rworkman [13:00] ElectRo`, what you doing here? [13:00] thrice`: What's your account on linuxquestions.org [13:00] ? [13:00] plus it's 7pm on sunday, shops are going to be closed ;p [13:00] Linux-IRC: I don't usually miss twice in a row. [13:00] Camarade_Tux: woudln't that quite depend on *what* you are hunting for? [13:00] he, true, was thinking about dear ;-) [13:00] deer [13:00] ElectRo`, how come you didn't mask your ip [13:01] rworkman: hehe :P [13:01] Camarade_Tux: for "dears" perhaps I can suggest bois d'boulongne or round abouts Place Pigalle ;) [13:01] rworkman: Hope you will get Eliza Dushku [13:02] Is there any option to upgrade slackware 12 to slackware 13 ? [13:02] any command ? [13:02] BRB [13:02] Linux-IRC: less UPGRADE.TXT [13:02] caoliver (n=oliver@75-134-208-20.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) left ##slackware. [13:02] eew, cat | less [13:02] lets be civil [13:03] cat UPGRADE.TXT | rev | rot13 | rev | rot13 [13:03] :O [13:03] cat UPGRADE.TXT | rev | rot13 | rev | rot13 | more [13:03] swriter UPGRADE.TXT :P [13:03] BP{k}: I could hunt transexual prostitutes there but not much more [13:03] hehehe [13:04] bah, read it with tac -_- [13:04] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-188-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [13:05] emacs UPGRADE.TXT [13:05] Action: agentc0re ducks [13:05] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:06] is the primary slackware http site refusing all connections or just mine? [13:06] all, it seems. [13:07] agentc0re: bah, I tried and just got an OOM killer ='( [13:07] mohaa (n=nome@89.16.15.157) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:07] mfillpot: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/slackware.com [13:07] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.123.7) joined ##slackware. [13:07] BP{k}: that is a good site idea [13:08] ness1d0rma (n=mike@78-134-67-159.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:08] guys [13:08] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.178.13) joined ##slackware. [13:08] can i rip a video_ts folder or do i still haven't to just burn the whole cd [13:08] that is unfortunate I was just wanting to check the changelog for current to see if there are any updates [13:08] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-65-51.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:09] try a mirror? [13:09] I will check the slackpkg list for a mirror, it was just easier to find a mirror from the primary site [13:09] ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/ [13:09] ardya: Hi, do you use slackpkg ? [13:10] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-071-068-037-030.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:10] is Linux-IRC the official channel pollster? :) [13:10] Linux-IRC: no. heroin. far better results. [13:10] ardya: that is the primary mirror I use, ty [13:10] huh [13:10] I suggest you try it too. [13:10] in excess. [13:10] Thanks. [13:10] mfillpot: mine as well heh [13:10] ravigehlot (n=ravigehl@216.189.209.126) joined ##slackware. [13:11] ardya: Some suggest not to use slackpkg, [13:11] I get fail when trying to restart mysql. There is no entry in the logs. How can I restart it verbose to see what's wrong? [13:11] Linux-IRC: slackpkg is good if you pay attention to what it is requesting to do [13:12] tediosu (n=blah@217.146.88.13) left irc: "leaving" [13:13] ravigehlot: did you read rc.mysqld ? [13:13] antiwire: hey nevermind...I had a corrupt table...running myisamchk [13:13] ravigehlot: /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start [13:13] Linux-IRC: you're not helping [13:13] Linux-IRC: You are not helping at all [13:13] he wants to do it verbose [13:14] oobe: yep [13:14] ravigehlot: chmod 777 /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld [13:14] no no [13:14] thanks people [13:14] Linux-IRC: stop it. you are way off base. [13:14] I got the problem fixed [13:14] 777? What the bloody fuck? [13:14] ravigehlot (n=ravigehl@216.189.209.126) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:14] lol [13:15] you don't want everyone to be able to turn off you mysql server [13:15] mfillpot: instead of ftp.slackware.com .. you can always check the OSUOSL server .. since Pat pushes it there. [13:16] *cough* last time i checked, all the rc.* file are 755 anyway. [13:16] ardya: uhm no they aren't. [13:16] 777 would just mean anyone could WRITE to them [13:16] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.149.226) joined ##slackware. [13:16] mfillpot: actually, that still won't be possible (well, not just by the perms) - the real concern is that *anyone* can then run any code they want as root. [13:16] (after editing the script) [13:16] It would just be a matter of waiting until next boot. [13:16] BP{k}: What's the prob, are you telling 755 ? [13:16] ravigehlot, modify /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld in this line /usr/bin/mysqld_safe --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysql/mysql.pid but add --syslog [13:16] rworkman: true [13:17] oh too late [13:17] BP{k}: umm yes they are [13:18] Most of the init scripts are mode 0755 *if* they're executable at all. [13:18] exactly [13:18] On any given system, probably most are 0644. [13:18] which in most cases is not *All* [13:18] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-213-128.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:18] IOW, you're both right. :) [13:18] [13:18] :) [13:19] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-77-167.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [13:21] slackguru (n=trimmer@63-228-162-86.cdrr.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [13:24] dagnachew (n=dagnache@modemcable230.220-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [13:26] hi all [13:26] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [13:26] anyone installed oracle ? [13:27] why [13:28] Action: Linux-IRC kicks those who(same people) have different accounts here [13:28] irc != webz0rz [13:28] get over it [13:29] Linux-IRC: accounts what accounts ? [13:29] snL20: "/msg nickserv info snL20" , [13:30] snL20: Look at the nickserv window [13:30] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:30] Linux-IRC: I dont have windows [13:30] snL20: "ALT+2" [13:31] don't hate, appreciate [13:31] snL20: "ALT+right/left arrow" to have the nickserv window [13:32] my terminal doesnt do ALT+right/leftarrow "ALT+2" nickserv window [13:32] ardya: Which terminal ? [13:32] so you must be talking about something specific to your client, not everyone elses [13:32] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:33] ness1d0rma (n=mike@78-134-76-45.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [13:33] coolkehon (n=neo@unaffiliated/coolkehon) left irc: "Leaving" [13:34] Linux-IRC: anyway, I dont get what other account you're talking about =) [13:34] nessundorma (n=mike@78.134.123.7) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:34] the CIA ones [13:34] and FBI and NSA [13:34] Camarade_Tux: ban'em all! [13:34] :D [13:35] :P [13:35] snL20: Some have multiple accounts here. [13:36] So? [13:36] Action: Linux-IRC kicks those [13:36] Why? [13:36] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78-134-77-167.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:36] Are they bothering youU? You are free to lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleave here [13:36] Heh [13:36] Wireless lags here [13:37] alienBOB: stuck l key ? [13:37] vncviewer can not cope with lag [13:37] alienBOB: One account is enough. [13:37] alienBOB: heh, looks like you're stuttering =) [13:37] Axius (n=fim@92.82.65.134) joined ##slackware. [13:37] Linux-IRC: who are you to determine that? [13:37] One Linux-IRC may be too much in here... [13:38] s/may/is/ [13:38] alienBOB: I can gurantee, only one Linux-IRC here [13:38] Linux-IRC: [13:39] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [13:39] but are you really here? [13:39] Doctors need to know [13:40] ardya: "the lights are on but noone is home"? kind of thing? ;) [13:40] How to swap Ctrl Locks with Ctrl on linux? Dows some knows a tutorial or site to do that. [13:40] How to phrase a complete sentence? [13:40] axius: what does that mean? [13:40] Linux-IRC: if people do not troll here, they can have as many accounts as they wish [13:40] impy (n=impy@163.63-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: [13:41] getting a cogent question is more than half the battle [13:41] I want to swap caps lock with ctrl. [13:41] alienBOB: using vnc to connect to irc? :P [13:41] mancha: can i haz cheezburger? [13:41] Camarade_Tux: no. Using vncviewer to connect to a 24/7 session [13:42] And an irc client is only one of the programs running there [13:42] Action: snL20 just use putty + irssi [13:42] anyone installed oracle ? [13:42] but kde doesnt run on putty [13:42] dagnachew: again. why. [13:42] "kde doesn't run on putty" say what? [13:42] ardya, hello [13:42] ardya: are you sure ? [13:43] :D [13:43] ardya, I installed oracle and changed sys password and system ... but dbca on initial db creation I am stuck at 89 % dbca [13:43] impy (n=impy@163.63-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [13:43] unless they made a terminal version of kde >:) [13:43] Oracle supports Slackware? [13:43] ardya: putty can do X11forwarding [13:43] hell no [13:43] snL20: humour.... [13:43] putty is a client for the ssh/telet protocols [13:44] this has nothing to do with kde running or not [13:44] yup, ssh+screen here [13:44] however, ssh can tunnel stuff, it can tunnel a vnc stream to satisfy alienbob's addiction to graphic, or it can do X11 forwarding, etc. [13:45] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:45] mancha: indeed, that is how I run my vnc session [13:45] alternatively, you can do cleartext X forwarding and run a server locally and have KDE run on it, but that's a bit unsafe [13:45] impy (n=impy@163.63-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Client Quit [13:45] you can also vnc cleartext, which again, is a bit unsafe if you have many sniffers around. [13:45] Or you can install freenx and have access to remote X [13:46] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78.134.102.236) joined ##slackware. [13:46] i once went down the path of trying to use x11 forwarding through ssh.. I lost. [13:46] alienBOB: heh, all the options omg! :D [13:46] It's changing only one character agentc0re... [13:47] agentc0re: works fine, havent tried it on windows though [13:47] if you want to render on a windows machine, cygwin has a nice x-server (free as in beer) [13:47] I've got a slightly perplexing symptom happening. I have a share exported via samba and I used smbmount to mount that share on a remote system. I used -o gid=agroupmyuserisamemberof for smbmount and my user can cd and ls in the mounted share dir. As that same user I try 'touch /path/to/mounted/share/test' and receive 'permission denied' but the test file actually does show up and my user and delete it. [13:47] dagnachew (n=dagnache@modemcable230.220-179-173.mc.videotron.ca) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:47] alienBOB: i was trying to do it through putty and just checkmarked the option for it. this was back like two years ago too. Not sure if at the time i needed to do something spell on the server or not.. /shrug. [13:47] ok - time for sunday errands - cheers [13:47] alienBOB: like you, i just defaulted to vnc. [13:47] I'm having a difficult time figuring out what is throwing that perm denied error, whether it is the server or my local system on which the share is mounted. [13:48] agentc0re: It has to be enables on the server. [13:48] and delete/can delete [13:49] xming.sf.net is a nice x-server sollution for windows. works nice with putty. [13:50] not to mention cygwins own xorg [13:50] and cygwins ssh [13:50] antiwire: if you don't have it mounted and you're just browsing the share, do you have the same issues? [13:50] Trying to run xbmc and it says I need "hardware accelerated OpenGL rendering" [13:51] aaaardya [13:51] I went to their website, and it says to double-check my OpenGL direct'ness with "glxinfo |grep -i direct" [13:51] and then run glxgears [13:51] ness1d0rma (n=mike@78-134-76-45.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:51] so I did ran the first command, and it was blank (which means I don't have direct rendering?) but glxgears runs smoothly [13:51] how would I have XBMC disable the check? [13:52] if that's OK to do [13:52] redtricycle: glxinfo in Slackware 13.0 doesn't show whether you have direct rendering due to a packaging mistake. [13:52] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:52] Of course, having direct rendering doesn't actually mean you have 3D acceleration, either. [13:53] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.2) joined ##slackware. [13:53] redtricycle: I don't know how to have XBMC disable that check, but if you pastebin the output of 'LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo' I can tell you if you have 3D acceleration. [13:53] one sec [13:53] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/7xi4pM13.html [13:54] Which line has the "3D Acceleration" info? [13:54] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [13:54] how do I swap Caps Lock with Ctrl on Slackware? Dows some knows a tutorial or site to do that. [13:55] redtricycle: The 2nd line and 7th line confirm that you have 3D acceleration. [13:55] Axius: eh, why ? [13:55] ah...okay [13:55] so do I simply repackage glxinfo and fix the bug? [13:55] agentc0re: Using smbclient with the same user and then testing by 'mkdir test' from within smbclient gives no perm error and the dir is created. [13:55] redtricycle: There are updates to the mesa package for Slackware 13.0 that will provide the correct glxinfo. [13:56] snL20: It's easeier to work with caps lock swaped. [13:56] Thanks adamk! [13:57] agentc0re: bad example. one sec [13:57] mkdir and touch work differently [13:57] with the share mounted by user can use mkdir without receiving the perm error but touch throw the error [13:57] by/my [13:59] agentc0re: I fixed it. It was an option in my smb.conf share definition: inherit owner = yes [13:59] the owner of that DIR on the server is root. [14:00] I have the dir's group set to a gid which exists on my server and my client and my smb user is a member of that group in each system. [14:01] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.78.39.142) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:02] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-127.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:03] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-127.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:03] ness1d0rma (n=mike@78-134-78-125.dynamic.eolo.it) joined ##slackware. [14:04] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.133.27) joined ##slackware. [14:04] Ah, cool. easy fix. [14:05] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) left irc: Client Quit [14:06] nessundorma_ (n=mike@78.134.102.236) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:07] gm152_ (n=quassel@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [14:09] Does patrick volkerding have account here ? is he here ? [14:10] Patrick where are youuu <3 [14:10] does mark guildwood have an account here ? is he here ? [14:11] Linux-IRC: those are fairly useless questions [14:11] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [14:11] The answer is yes [14:11] And no [14:11] and maybe! [14:12] and may not be [14:12] jomo (n=mich@p3EE22CD0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving." [14:12] the truth is somewhere out there [14:12] In Soviet Slackistan, you are in the truth [14:13] sahk0 (n=quassel@ppp-94-68-251-124.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:16] The-Crou1ier (n=agapi@77.49.132.87.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:16] Does anyone know of a slick trick to report transfer speed stats for a cp between two hosts using samba as the connection protocol? [14:16] iptraf? [14:16] sahk0 (n=quassel@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Client Quit [14:17] wireshark? [14:17] sahk0 (n=sahk0@ppp-94-68-251-124.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:19] i run wireshark on ardya's line 24/7 [14:19] get some nasty results [14:19] 'how to make cakes' [14:19] sahk0 (n=sahk0@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left ##slackware ("part"). [14:20] antiwire: you could use time... then math it from there. [14:20] shit i dunno maph [14:20] ;) [14:21] If I base this off iptraf...samba/CIFS is slower than scp [14:21] sahk0 (n=sahk0@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [14:21] much slower too. [14:21] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [14:21] maybe with ntop? [14:22] midnight commander 4.7 is out, i think i will build to see the difference, i did notice the color.c file has been moved and drastically changed in its method [14:22] hi [14:22] i updated amarok, all to current and i continue having problems while reproducing some mp3s [14:22] scp will move ~35MB/s while cifs/samba based on iptraf is barely hitting 0.5MB/s [14:23] i find that to be highly inaccurate in light of ls -alh on the server side [14:23] B != b [14:23] and I actually do mean MB [14:23] i'm on gigabit thank you very much [14:23] ardya: I meant what I typed. [14:23] Pig_Pen: nice :) [14:24] midnight commander is still around? [14:24] http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2750 [14:24] and being developed? [14:24] and I converted iptraf's output to B from b to make the units match [14:24] I mean from b to B [14:24] that means i need to either figure out how to change that awful blue background back to black or figure out a local rc file to change it [14:25] looks the same [14:25] The-Croupier (n=agapi@79.103.15.175.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [14:25] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-51-46.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:25] i wouldnt think De Icaza still reads mc mailing lists: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mc/2009-December/msg00052.html maybe hes thinking of porting it to mono :p [14:26] nille_ (i=1000@c-83-233-249-176.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:26] 40 million file manager guis arent enough? [14:26] never! [14:27] we need 41 million file manager guis [14:27] 42! [14:27] why did patrick not go gnome instead of kde [14:28] gutts (n=gutts@ADijon-554-1-100-10.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [14:28] Reav_1 (n=Sarge@41.221.87.249) left irc: Connection timed out [14:28] ardya: read the 2005 changelog [14:29] or use bing [14:29] bing? as in ms bing? [14:29] Reav_ (n=Sarge@41.221.87.249) joined ##slackware. [14:29] agentc0re: doing the qty transfered over time maph I'm showing more sane estimates. ~35MB/s for scp and ~46MB/s for cifs [14:29] ardya: http://michielvwessem.wordpress.com/slackware/gnomedropped/ <-- contains the relevant portion of the ChangeLog [14:30] ok, looking [14:30] antiwire: ya, sounds about right. is that on a 10/100 connection? [14:30] Raw IP test transfers with iperf yield ~123MB/s or 990/Mbs (gigabit) [14:31] So I think it's working correctly [14:31] someone mind seeing if they can connect to slackware.com? i think it's down, but it may be something at my end [14:31] hoobop: it is down [14:31] thanks agentc0re [14:31] down for me too [14:31] hoobop: http://isitdownorisitjustme.com [14:32] lol [14:32] nice [14:32] thanks [14:32] http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ [14:32] jeev: thanks.. i knew it was something like that but wasn't going to go to the trouble and verify it. :P [14:33] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:33] Billtoo_ (n=spot@bas4-unionville55-1176016450.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:33] i see there are skins, i guess that ~/.mc/ini file needs to be tweaked to use them [14:34] Billtoo_ (n=spot@bas4-unionville55-1176016450.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [14:35] yesyes (n=yesyes@unaffiliated/yesyes) joined ##slackware. [14:35] coolkehon (n=neo@unaffiliated/coolkehon) joined ##slackware. [14:35] i installed httpd with slackware [14:36] redtricycle (n=redtricy@c-24-16-69-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:36] I didnt [14:36] which httpd is it [14:36] apache? [14:36] less /var/log/packages/httpd [14:36] 14 [14:36] bah ^^ [14:36] sahk0 (n=sahk0@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "quit" [14:36] ok, I need to disconnect my brother from the lan [14:37] also which sshd is it using [14:37] so it would be apache? [14:37] *--? [14:37] look in /var/log/packages/ [14:37] hmmm, the box has mac-filtering, let's try it [14:37] it's apache :D meant to say remove ? from end of sentence [14:37] bye brother [14:39] open ssh [14:39] thanks [14:39] so /var/log/packages has all the packages that are installed [14:39] The-Crou1ier (n=agapi@77.49.132.87.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:39] i mean like a log [14:39] ls /var/log/packages would be a list really of the installed ones? [14:39] yes [14:40] Billtoo_ (n=spot@bas4-unionville55-1176016450.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [14:40] thanks [14:40] note thats just slackware pkgs. if you compile something and install it, you wont see it there [14:42] mk [14:43] i'm about to install php from source are there packages already or should i just do it from source [14:43] also the slackware website seems to be down [14:43] coolkehon: php is availabe in slackware dvd i think [14:44] (12.27.09 13:09) < ardya> ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/ [14:44] i installed httpd from the slackware dvd when i installed slackware [14:45] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:45] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:45] php-5.2.11-i486-1_slack13.0 [inst=yes]: php (HTML-embedded scripting language) [14:45] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-236-81.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:45] btw the 'force {group|user} = XXXX' directive for smb.conf is rad [14:45] ardya, where'd you find that at [14:46] (12.27.09 14:44) < ardya> (12.27.09 13:09) < ardya> ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/ [14:46] mk [14:47] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:48] arcfide (n=arcfide@ppp-70-246-149-137.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [14:48] coolkehon: you should look into the various pkg management front ends available [14:49] ardya, why and example? [14:49] why? to find php, like i just did [14:49] and to ease installation [14:49] oh [14:49] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:50] well which one do you use [14:50] Nick change: Billtoo_ -> Billtoo [14:50] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [14:50] there are at least 3 available, slackpkg (shipped with slackware, in contrib/ I think), swaret, and slapt-get [14:51] slapt-get also has a gtk front end [14:51] called gslapt [14:51] I use slackpkg coupled with writing my own slackbuilds or using those that I find. [14:52] mk thanks [14:52] i'm used to apt-get [14:52] coolkehon: rty them all, they won't conflict with each other [14:52] ardya, mk [14:53] wertik_rus (n=mirggi@95-24-51-46.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [14:53] bye [14:53] Linux-IRC (n=Linux-IR@unaffiliated/easy) left irc: "leaving" [14:54] corretico__ (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:59] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) joined ##slackware. [14:59] vehn_z (n=vehn_z@62.133.182.207) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:00] (##slackware) Channel ban on %Linux-IRA!*@* expired. [15:00] ##slackware: mode change '-b %Linux-IRA!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [15:00] Billtoo (n=spot@bas4-unionville55-1176016450.dsl.bell.ca) left ##slackware. [15:02] Ok, it's fairly clear that I need to redesign my system user/group setup. [15:02] arcfide (n=arcfide@ppp-70-246-149-137.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) left ##slackware. [15:02] It's time to make users members of their own group that named the same as their username [15:02] arcfide (n=arcfide@ppp-70-246-149-137.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) joined ##slackware. [15:03] Wescotte: you there ? [15:04] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left ##slackware. [15:05] shadowx (n=7350@gh0st.darknet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [15:06] Karu (n=alch@78-28-96-51.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:06] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:07] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.135.246) joined ##slackware. [15:08] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [15:10] ghett0 (n=ghetto@78.166.128.131) joined ##slackware. [15:11] Action: ghett0 slm [15:11] adamk_ (n=adamk@unaffiliated/adamk) joined ##slackware. [15:11] gesundheit [15:13] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:13] if anyone cares/needs it, i created a slackware official package search tool, heres a link: http://packages.slackverse.org/ [15:14] it was for myself really, but if anyone else needs it, enjoy [15:16] mario: nice work. :) [15:17] thanks [15:19] i will perhaps also index other unofficial packages, but honestly this is what i was missing the most ever since packages.slackware.it went off [15:19] yeah it's a nice tool to have every now and again. 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[15:29] Nick change: sirsalcker -> sirslacker [15:37] Nick change: ness1d0rma -> nessundorma [15:40] Nick change: mario -> Kresho [15:41] lol, i was just wishing packages.slackware.it was around cuz i was wanting to find something. [15:41] impy (n=impy@100.88-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [15:43] khider (n=khider@dsl-67-55-21-150.acanac.net) joined ##slackware. [15:43] Nick change: Kresho -> mario [15:46] mario: lol whats up with all the crazy bob pictures? [15:46] :D [15:46] i went over the top with that one i guess, but i cant remove it, its too much fun haha [15:47] tooly (n=tooly@e178152006.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [15:48] http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/12/27/1639207/Fifth-Anniversary-of-a-Cosmic-Onslaught [15:49] NthDegree (n=nth@88-107-188-254.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [15:49] what's a good text editor similar to gedit for (xfce | any desktop manager) [15:49] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:50] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-213-128.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] leafpad is about like xfce's mousepad (just a basic gtk based text editor) [15:51] mohaa (n=nome@89.16.15.157) joined ##slackware. [15:51] i want something with plugins, syntax hightligting, etc such as notepad++ (windows) or gedit (gnome) [15:51] gvim [15:52] geany [15:52] does it have tabs and a side pane? [15:53] http://freshmeat.net/projects/geany [15:53] thanks [15:54] i'm using ftp thru the command line [15:54] is it necesary that when i do *.whatever it must ask me for each file before transfer [15:55] when i did mput *.txt it ask for each file and there's a lot of txt files [15:55] http://www.geany.org/ [15:55] coolkehon: If you want a good graphical editor that has a lot of features but doesn't really get in the way, you should consider NEdit. [15:55] thanks [15:55] coolkehon: It's very lightweight and it has a lot of nice features. I wrote a blog post about it, actually. [15:56] coolkehon: It's one of those editors that doesn't get a lot of credit, but should. [15:56] nedit is cool, seems development on it is slow as molasses [15:56] Pig_Pen: Yes, very slow, but it does happen, at least. And at the moment it is very stable. [15:56] msvista (n=chatzill@189.99.181.103) joined ##slackware. [15:56] they still have not fixed it for the lesstif that comes with slack [15:57] -DBUILD_BROKEN_NEDIT [15:57] so anyone know how to get ftp not to ask me for each file [15:57] msvista (n=chatzill@189.99.181.103) left ##slackware. [15:57] it works but no promises [15:58] Pig_Pen: I have SlackBuilds for OpenMotif. [15:58] And SlackBuilds for OpenMotif 2.3 exist as well. [15:58] coolkehon: prompt [15:58] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:58] ? [15:59] oh -i flag [15:59] will that break lesstif? or xpdf? [15:59] Pig_Pen: Actually, if I need lesstif, I always install OpenMotif instead. [15:59] Pig_Pen: I remove lesstif and use OpenMotif instead. [15:59] They all work better for it. [15:59] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:59] coolkehon: the prompt command in ftp(1) does that without the flag. [16:00] yeah so i added the flag [16:00] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [16:01] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.230.168) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:01] nixchix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-213-128.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:03] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:04] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-ksuimnrisptcxivl) left irc: "leaving" [16:04] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@gateway/shell/xzibition.com/x-dhraiwitndziacqe) joined ##slackware. [16:05] Does anyone here know about Winsock programing? [16:06] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:06] nix_chix0r (n=nixchix@97-127-213-128.dlth.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:09] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/openmotif/ this one? [16:09] Pig_Pen: I think that one is for 2.3.1, right? [16:09] evilwrite (n=evilwrit@unaffiliated/evilwrite) joined ##slackware. [16:09] 2.3.0 [16:09] I modified mine to do 2.3.2 and use txz instead of tgz, but otherwise it is the same. [16:10] Actually, if you want stability, 2.3 is considered unstable by some of the companies that use Motif. The official OpenGroup release is 2.1.30 with five patches, and IST releases a version with some bug fixes that is otherwise the same as 2.1.32. [16:10] 2.3 is sort of another company's attempt at breaking out, and they haven't really made an effort, I think, to synchronize, and I think that the two main companies diverged in their development plans. [16:11] So I also have a build for 2.1.30, I think, somewhere. [16:11] And the RPM for 2.1.32 works fine when converted to a Slackware Package. [16:11] and nedit wants the older openmotif package anyway :) [16:11] Neh, it works without needint the experimental flag with 2.3 and 2.1. [16:12] It doesn't work for 2.2, because that was the most broken build there is. [16:12] Basically, 2.1 is the one you use when your helicopters have to fly, 2.3 is the one you use to impress the script kiddies, and 2.2 is the one you use on your enemies. [16:12] nille_ (i=1000@c-83-233-249-176.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [16:13] 2.1 and 2.3 really have pretty much the same functionality, actually. It's just that 2.1 doesn't make as big a deal out of some of the features. [16:13] And it is time for me to go. [16:13] See ya! [16:13] i just want the one that lets me edit text without crashing [16:14] Pig_Pen: 2.1 or 2.3 will be fine for you. [16:15] thanks! [16:15] SlackNews (i=nikopol@apple.chaosorigin.com) joined ##slackware. [16:16] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:18] oh, one thing i noticed about using that -DBUILD_BROKEN_NEDIT with lesstif is the "Save" dialog/widget thing did not have the buttons [16:18] ghett0 (n=ghetto@78.166.128.131) left irc: "Leaving" [16:18] what's openmotif [16:19] their wiki is broken :( [16:19] but you could still save files by just typing in the name of the file in the usual location and hitting enter on the keyboard and it would save the modified text the way any text editor should [16:19] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. [16:20] openmotif and lesstif both a GUI library toolkits, like gtk or qt or tk/tcl are tool kits [16:21] there are apps written to use them, like xpdf, nedit is a nice text editor its not pretty but it works great, has syntax highlighting and tabs like what you want [16:22] dios_mio (n=test@88.243.7.93) joined ##slackware. [16:22] hi goise [16:22] if you decide to build openmotif you need to remove lesstif first before installing openmotif [16:23] why is ubuntu so popular? [16:23] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-72-126-110.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:23] because ubuntu has an army of muppets for followers? [16:24] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [16:24] lol [16:24] no they dont [16:25] does anyone know how mirror sites are displaying Folder icons and Last Modified information ? [16:25] is it jsut some kind of template [16:26] or an apache module of some sort ? [16:26] scuzz: why [16:26] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.12.106) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:26] im jsut watn to know how its done [16:27] just want* [16:27] apache configuration directives [16:27] thank you sir [16:27] evilwrite (n=evilwrit@unaffiliated/evilwrite) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:28] EvilWrite (n=evilwrit@unaffiliated/evilwrite) joined ##slackware. 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[16:49] nessundorma (n=mike@78-134-78-125.dynamic.eolo.it) left irc: "Leaving" [16:51] uva (i=bno@220-136-228-170.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:53] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:53] worked like a charm with openmotif, get nedit's latest source code and you dont have to do that -DBUILD_BROKEN_NEDIT stuff to the makefile's cflags line and the buttons are fixed! [16:54] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:54] mrspwnage (n=nixchix@97-127-213-128.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [16:54] CcSsNET (n=user@c-24-147-193-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:55] thanx ardya i got it [16:55] Nick change: mrspwnage -> nix_chix0r_ [16:56] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. 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[17:04] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Client Quit [17:05] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [17:06] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:07] http://www.xfce.org/download/distros I find it funny that slackware clones are listed in there but no slackware itself. there's like 4 of them in there...wtf? [17:09] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [17:10] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578BC4.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:10] do they bundle KDE? [17:10] who, slackware? [17:11] who, gnome? :-) [17:12] no, the slackware clones that xfce's site listed [17:13] i would guess they dno't since they are xfce distros [17:15] john_dee (n=id@95-29-14-6.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "link closed" [17:16] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089072161094.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. 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[17:20] i think Pat should dump kde-4 like he did gnome and start using xfce as the defualt desktop [17:20] fhobia (n=fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:21] a-freakin'-men [17:21] but that is just my opinion, and since slackware is Pat's baby i will let him do as he wishes to it without my input [17:21] its not only your opinion ;) [17:21] :D [17:22] a bit more polishing for xfce, like that stuff you have to build from sbo [17:22] Hyena (i=Hyena@lain.mystydragon.com) joined ##slackware. [17:22] those panel plugins? [17:23] yes for example...that notify thing, thunar addons...whatever [17:23] however, i start using xfce at the point they have tabbed windows [17:24] just cant live without it [17:24] its fast and nice and not that bloated, but i miss tabbed windows [17:25] it already has multiple virtual desktops with active screen borders, (i like those active screen borders so when you bump either the left or right hand screen edge it goes in to the next desktop) [17:25] actually, I *hate* xfce [17:25] I find it pretty bad [17:26] i'm using tabbed windows just for my terminals (urxvt), all those vte based terminals and kterm and gnometerm whatever suck. they have tabs but they suck [17:26] its small and lean, kde has become a bloated complicated mess almost as bad as gnome [17:26] exactly [17:26] Xeliaa (i=Hyena@lain.mystydragon.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:26] cteg: ... terminal is tabbed. [17:26] xfce isn't exactly light [17:27] compared to gnome and kde it is [17:27] agentc0re: yeah, as i wrote ;) [17:27] oh ya, i see that now. heh. [17:27] Action: Camarade_Tux buys agentc0re a pair of glasses xD [17:27] kde and gnome should offer big binary packages for everyone who wants it, like openoffice. [17:27] Camarade_Tux: i'm already wearing some. [17:28] agentc0re: maybe you need new ones then (just like I do ;-) ) [17:28] Camarade_Tux: lol, these are new. hhahah. [17:28] Camarade_Tux: maybe i just need to learn how to read in 'full' [17:29] same here, I always skip parts of texts =/ [17:30] even kde has tabbed windows now, in 4.4...they heard me. still i'm not gonna use it ;) [17:30] its so easy, unbloated. heh maybe i'll take time make a patch for xfce. [17:31] BP{k}: http://www.youtube.com/user/bikeskills [17:31] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-95-49.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [17:31] antiwire: http://urlg.in/1d8 [17:31] pim_ (n=ldjf@ip503d7803.speed.planet.nl) left irc: Client Quit [17:31] where do i configurate my keyboard layout? [17:31] cteg: what do you mean, "tabbed windows" [17:32] BP{k}: some of the tracks are just amazing. [17:32] Axius_ (n=fim@92.82.65.134) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:33] agentc0re: basically you drag applications in one window [17:33] Reav_ (n=Sarge@41.221.87.249) left irc: "Leaving." [17:33] in the titlebar, or in little tabs above, configurable, you see whats in it [17:36] nix_chix0r_ (n=nixchix@97-127-213-128.dlth.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] agentc0re: http://imagebin.ca/view/KUOwTI.html [17:37] http://urlg.in/1d9 ... wtf. Saturday morning were also told they must remain in their seats and couldn't have items in their laps, including laptops and pillows." [17:37] Next thing you know we'll all have to be naked to be on a plane. [17:38] cteg: Ah... i've never understood why people like that look for a desktop. I can see it's functionality for a server though. [17:39] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.2) left irc: [17:39] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:40] 6925Khz [17:40] AM [17:41] Hermann (n=Hermannn@c-fd51e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:45] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.135.246) left irc: "Leaving" [17:45] cteg: nice shot [17:45] evening all [17:46] thanks. nothing fancy ;) just terminals. ff and stuff is on desktop 2 [17:46] what WM? [17:46] fluxbox [17:47] i see.. wheres your window bar go? :/ [17:47] not compiled in. no need [17:47] :) [17:48] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [17:50] finding packages is very very annoying [17:50] where can i find php5-sqlite for slackware [17:50] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:20e:8eff:fe20:82d7) left irc: Client Quit [17:53] the source? ;o [17:53] coolkehon: radioshake [17:53] 5.99$ [17:54] acidchild, source is annoying :( [17:54] coolkehon: welcome to slackware, where you buold what they dont ship, and even rebuild what they ship because it lacks features :) [17:54] then slackware aint for you! =] [17:54] :) [17:54] danklesman (n=dankles@adsl-074-166-063-180.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:54] i just woke up and the sun is going down -sigh- [17:54] :( takes time to rebuild stuff from scratch [17:55] Reticenti (n=reticent@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:55] yup [17:55] and its a bitch to maintain [17:55] then what makes slackware so good? [17:55] ardya: shush, bitchz dig slackware. [17:55] what can it do that others cant? [17:55] shows you put the effort in. [17:55] coolkehon: teach :) [17:55] acidchild, besides that (i'm the only one who will see) [17:56] ardya, teach what? [17:56] coolkehon: if you have a hacker spirit, then slackware is just right ;) [17:56] how about it doesnt use crappy SysV? [17:56] i pitty da-fool [17:56] pitty my fryingpan [17:56] Action: ardya rolls eyes [17:56] slackware is all about doing things ur self [17:56] danklesman, well i'm gonna start a bunch of stuff to compile [17:56] sysv is fine [17:56] and let it run [17:56] i hate sysv [17:56] you think that'll be safe to let like 12 terminals all running building and installing stuff [17:57] Hmm is libip6t_recent.so missing in 12.2 ? [17:57] coolkehon: screenQ [17:57] oh yeah, slackware has BSD init rather than sysv init... arch linux is the only other one with that i think [17:57] ! [17:57] ./configure && make && make install [17:57] acidchild, screenQ ? [17:57] GNU Screen. [17:57] Rave2byte (n=She@p4FC91921.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:57] i mean. [17:57] is slackboy a bot? [17:58] naw, just a very sexually frustrated nerd in *.br [17:58] ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var <--- thats generally the slackware way [17:58] Okay... who left out the troll meat? [17:58] i like /usr/local [17:58] i checked ubuntu and mint for my office, they don't even seem to have a runlevel (or i wasnt able to figure it out). its a pain in the ass [17:58] the other things are usually default [17:58] thats not bad if you want to be able to redoo ur /usr/local [17:58] slackware doesn't have a bsd init [17:58] yeah it deos, mancha [17:59] negatory [17:59] *BSD style init [17:59] /etc/rc.d/ is bsd + /etc/rc.conf [17:59] slackware has slackware style init, slackware has been around long enough to stand on its own two feet! [17:59] once you use bsd you will appreciate the bsd way [17:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1qRQfbbs8I [17:59] awesome giggles video [18:00] slackware init scripts ARE BSD-style [18:00] what od you guys preffer for a mailserver ... sendmail or postfix ? [18:00] do* [18:00] yeah i know [18:00] exim [18:00] Scuzz: postfix, http://wiki.slackadelic.com/ [18:00] sendmail is too old [18:00] imo [18:00] http://wiki.slackadelic.com/index.php/Mailserver <-- great howto by Dominian. [18:00] Action: alienBOB is old as well [18:00] Action: alienBOB prefers sendmail [18:00] -.- [18:01] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [18:02] acidchild: you have used both ? [18:02] i'd like to see a mail server written in erlang ^_^ [18:02] Scuzz: and exim... [18:02] and youp reffer postfix ? [18:02] yes. [18:02] k thanx [18:02] Scuzz: Dominian and I spent allot of time getting a good mailserver/manageable setup done. [18:02] danklesman: a bash/awk/sed based one wont do it ? :) [18:03] Scuzz: that wiki howto is probly out of date, but its a good starting point. [18:04] k thanx [18:04] is ti a bitch to configure ? [18:04] it* [18:04] learning curve, like everything. [18:08] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.18.208) joined ##slackware. [18:08] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.125) joined ##slackware. [18:09] briareus (n=briareus@48.sub-75-211-31.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [18:12] hrm how would i enlarge the desktop resolution in a vm (qemu)...change/create a xorg.conf? just resizing the windows won't work, i get no more then 1024x768 offered [18:13] how much vid ram? [18:13] and what vid devuice? [18:13] umm i haven't specified that, just std video [18:13] here how can i have proftpd start on startup [18:13] which is cirrus? have to look [18:14] Reticenti (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [18:14] and on other systems there used to be /etc/init.d/local where i could define my own custom startup script is there an equivilant in slackware [18:14] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-071-068-037-030.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving." [18:14] ardya: i think he must change xorg.conf... [18:15] rc.local if you dont know how to create your own init scripts [18:15] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: "leaving" [18:16] coolkehon: inetd.conf [18:16] ew [18:16] how can i create my own init scripts [18:16] wif an editor [18:16] coolkehon: you need to just edit inetd.conf and restart it to make proftpd start [18:16] and where would i put them [18:17] nano /etc/inetd.conf then search for ftp... find the proftpd one, uncomment (remvoe the # infront) then /etc/rc.d/inetd restart [18:17] in /etc/rc.d, you find a rc.local there too. [18:17] why is slackware stil;l using inetd, and why still have ftpd in it [18:17] 1995 is over [18:17] ardya: because it fullfill peoples needs. [18:17] Because, ardya [18:17] and ignores people who just bitch, like you ardya. [18:17] linux is about choice. [18:18] heh [18:18] right, and I chose to write my own scripts, and disable inetd [18:18] good for you, me also. [18:19] coolkehon: you have two options available, use inetd, or write your own init for it [18:19] inetd has it already set [18:19] just need to uncomment it [18:19] the latter including using rc.local [18:19] you also have to start inetd [18:20] ? [18:20] though inetd was started on startup [18:20] it probly is for you. [18:20] just look if rc.inetd is executable [18:21] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [18:21] yep it is [18:21] if you made changes, you'll have to restart in anyway [18:21] i know [18:21] will do later [18:22] "kill -HUP ". [18:23] BP{k}: http://bikemag.com/gear/bikes/norco-shore-one-bike-test/ <-- check that out... check the crank... it can handle over 3000lb! [18:23] `pidof inetd` [18:23] el_rada (n=andrea@dsl-emcali-190.99.206.12.emcali.net.co) joined ##slackware. [18:23] coolkehon: just use the restart script? O.o [18:23] later [18:23] a kill would leave the pidfile somewhere [18:24] depends on the type of kill :-) [18:24] though kill -HUP told it to update configs [18:24] well most programs do that when they get the signal [18:24] yes [18:24] # If you make changes to this file, either reboot your machine or send the [18:24] # inetd a HUP signal: [18:25] rc.inetd is not remembering the pid so you are right [18:26] acidchild: holy hell ... nice. :) [18:26] BP{k}: welcome back :D [18:27] BP{k}: http://norco.com/archives/2009/img/bikes/hires/shore-one.jpg high rez image. [18:27] internet still 2Kb/s? [18:28] acidchild: nah, we're back to normal now :) [18:28] excellentie [18:31] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [18:32] BP{k}: sorry for linkies, check this pimped ride http://www.farminded.com/Web/Mountain_Bike/Mountain_Bike-004.jpg [18:32] maybe the cage is for the wife [18:32] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [18:34] acidchild: If it is, she'd have to be either super flexible, or a midget. [18:34] or not in one piece. [18:34] ;P [18:34] lol [18:35] hence the drainage holes. [18:35] lol [18:36] acidchild: Well, it is about the perfect size for a human head. [18:36] perfect. [18:37] that would be perfect for the Zombie walk. [18:37] have a dripping head in the bicycle box [18:37] what's the easiest way to merge, for example, the contents of two .irssi/logs/ directories (from two machines)? [18:37] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [18:38] append them with cat? [18:38] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [18:39] BP{k}: i'm looking for something a _bit_ more automated, if possible. [18:39] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: "Leaving" [18:40] how come when i search on linuxpackages no matter what i put in there is always 0 packages [18:40] hackedhead: one sec :) [18:40] tappitahti (n=tappitah@88-196-188-224-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) left irc: "leaving" [18:41] what do you guys think about rpms [18:41] coolkehon: consider yourself lucky, linuxpackages is not a good place to get slackware packages, try slackbuilds.org [18:42] with the possible exception of ken zalewski's (sp?) packages on linuxpackages [18:42] BP{k}: i'm thinking rsync might be able to do it? ... somehow? [18:42] hackedhead: http://buhkit.net/~michiel/scripts/getlog/ <-- is what I use .. might be overkill but works for me. [18:43] el_rada (n=andrea@dsl-emcali-190.99.206.12.emcali.net.co) left ##slackware. [18:44] Zordrak_ (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) joined ##slackware. [18:44] BP{k}: hmm... i'm looking for something that's going to be able to deal with a lot of the stuff in my ~/, irssi logs were just an example. [18:44] BP{k}: i suppose that's what i get for asking too narrow a question. [18:45] hackedhead: I think we are calling this a slackphorism #1 and #2 [18:46] hackedhead: I am sure a combination of bash-fu and rsync or whatever can do it. [18:46] coolkehon maybe the backend is having problems? email them. [18:46] BP{k}: lmfao. thanks for that. =D [18:47] PurpleSmurf, backend for linuxpackages? [18:47] this is probably going to sound stupid, but: if i install "current" (i've never used the "current" releases in the past), can i maintain it over time, or am i more or less resigning myself to an update as soon as 13.1 comes out? [18:47] coolkehon obviously they use a db [18:47] who cares one bit about linuxpackages. [18:47] sorry was busy doing some slackbuild thing [18:48] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:48] hackedhead what are you doin? [18:49] shonudo (n=user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:49] Pig_Pen: If you play with NEdit, and you think it looks ugly, check out the changes you can do to make it prettier. [18:50] In fact, setting a few basic settings for OpenMotif apps can really make them look nice and sleek. [18:50] okay, the long story: i've been moving, and for the last several months, my main machine has been my laptop. I've now moved completey and setup my tower again. I'm trying to find a way to merge a lot of things from ~/ on the laptop back onto the tower. [18:50] hackedhead "merge" literally or no? [18:50] rsyncable? [18:51] Pig_Pen: . [18:52] PurpleSmurf: possibly? i'm not very familiar with rsync's operation. things like irssi logs, i do want to merge if there is file overlap, to condense all the logs into one place, for example. [18:53] hackedhead: seems you need to be selective with what you rsync and what you append with cat or something. [18:53] hackedhead may i suggest that you then do things manually carefully and deliberately since your messing with home [18:53] hackedhead dont rush it. [18:54] or, move all from laptop to ~/subdir so the files are copied then deal with them as needed [18:54] PurpleSmurf, BP{k}: yeah, probaly right. I guess i was hoping someone knew of a tool that would let me manage the whole process or something [18:54] PurpleSmurf: yeah, that;'s probably what i'll do [18:55] vcs/sccs/rcs/snv-thingies are the prefered method; but you have to setup first. [18:55] cvs/svn [18:55] but you cant do that now; too late. [18:55] yeah [18:55] do you use mc? [18:56] yeah [18:56] k [18:56] i still think i'm the only mc-user in the world [18:56] heh [18:56] haha, no i love me some mc [18:56] i use it for everything [18:56] heh [18:56] kool [18:56] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:56] i hate not having it at work. [18:56] on what? [18:57] the centos systems that i do dev work on. [18:57] install it [18:57] at least they have zsh [18:57] Zordrak (n=jaz@unaffiliated/zordrak) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:57] PurpleSmurf: i could install it locally i guess, but that kind of thing is... fairly frowned upon, sadly. [18:57] hackedhead demand your right to productivity!!! :) [18:58] PurpleSmurf: don't even get me started. oi. [18:58] heh [18:58] I'm not gonna be able to stay at this job for too terribly long. maybe a year if they don't get the act together. [18:58] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:59] bummer [18:59] no source control, no build system... =[ [18:59] ew [18:59] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:59] but does that mean you cant utilise those tools? [18:59] they are trying to roll out svn, but it's slow going [18:59] k [19:00] and yeah, they don't like people using 'unsanctioned' tools [19:00] no tool is unsanctioned; only users. :) [19:00] i use vim, but they'd very much rather i use eclipse.... 0_o [19:00] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:00] mario (n=mario@darkstar.slackverse.org) joined ##slackware. [19:00] wow; morons. [19:01] oh. no separate development environment. [19:01] .... fun times. [19:01] s/morons/stoopit people/g [19:01] the real problem is, i'm working as a dev in a company that is not a software company [19:02] the dev team is about 4-5 people, writing software for inhouse use by the 80 other employees [19:02] that doesnt matter. talk to a pointyhead about it. give your advice even if they dont want it. [19:02] tell them that they're making mistakes which are unnecesa and unwarranted [19:02] PurpleSmurf: oh i know. the rest of the dev team has been struggling with them since long before i got there. [19:03] and that they're killing personal creativity [19:03] PurpleSmurf: they'd be glad to hear there's no creativity. [19:03] they'd be happiest if they culd somehow hire a machine to write code. [19:03] well tell a pointy that one in confidence whom you trust [19:04] i loathe people who stifle. [19:04] we are dealing with it, slowly. it's just that i suspect i'm going to find a better place to move on before they get their ducks in a row. [19:04] k [19:07] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:07] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:07] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [19:09] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) left irc: "Changing server" [19:09] how do i install themes [19:09] mc 4.7 was final yesterday btw [19:09] i got them from xfce look [19:09] ty rat [19:12] sure , i use it a lot,myself and lots of xterms :) [19:12] me too! mc rulez in the file manager department! [19:13] it os the OFM of the centuries [19:13] os/is [19:14] agreed [19:14] should i format my harddisk and install slackware? [19:14] so um how do i install themes? [19:14] davi` (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [19:14] dios_mio why? [19:14] dios_mio, if your in the mood to do some work [19:14] format that is [19:14] :P [19:15] Pig_Pen: is it building ok? lots of changes? [19:15] yes i'm building ORbit [19:15] coolkehon: xfce4,openbox,gtk themes are in ~/.themes [19:15] well how do i change the theme [19:15] i have tar.gz theme files [19:16] yuh i built ORbit 2 for chrome-browser [19:16] cybErpunk (i=davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:16] Nick change: davi` -> cybErpunk [19:16] and a couple others. [19:16] Action: coolkehon is hungry [19:17] um i think i messed up the timezone [19:17] any ideas on how to change it? [19:17] coolkehon: unpack it to ~/.themes then in xfce settings-manger/appearance or userinterface i forget change the theme [19:17] coolkehon: run timeconfig as root. [19:17] mk thanks [19:18] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: "221 GoodBye - WeeChat 0.3.1-dev" [19:19] Avalloc (n=_@port-12627.pppoe.wtnet.de) left irc: Client Quit [19:21] BP{k}, that didn't work (time is still wrong) [19:22] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [19:24] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [19:24] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [19:26] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.133.27) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:27] run pkgtool as root >setup>scroll and select timezone [19:27] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Client Quit [19:27] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Client Quit [19:29] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:30] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@93.107.140.183) joined ##slackware. [19:31] Sun Dec 27 18:31:48 CST 2009 [19:33] Scuzz: that tutorial that acidchild pointed out, I need to update quite a few things with it Hehe. I no longer use mailscanner as I have since found a more scalable solution that works well [19:33] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [19:34] Rat409: annnnnd that just run timeconfig :P [19:36] OpenSys (n=vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: "curiosity kill the kat" [19:36] I'm setting up courier-imap and editting pop3d.cnf, for the line that says CN=localhost - do I put the domain of the e-mail address, or my VPS public I.P or what? [19:37] acidtripper (n=gon@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [19:37] hey [19:37] nvision (n=nvision@p4FC0360F.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:37] did someone solve problem while reproducing some .mp3's on amarok? [19:37] playing* [19:37] use the fully qualified domain name of the host [19:38] what? [19:38] i still cant play some music :S [19:39] with amarok, using gstreamer or xine [19:39] acidtripper (n=gon@190.19.235.226) left irc: Client Quit [19:40] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [19:42] Dominian: ok hurry up and fix it, ill be here waiting [19:42] j/k , thanx for the info [19:42] Scuzz: hahah it'll take a lot of time to update :0 [19:42] Scuzz: I switched from using Mailscanner to using maia mailguard [19:42] BP{k}: noted, to check,sync every once in a while,i use openntpd and a quick ntpd -s. [19:42] I no longer use greylisting.. as over time I've realized its a awaste of time.. and most spammers now use their own "SMTP" servers to send messages.. so they will retry after a bit of time and makes the greylisting pointless [19:43] i see [19:43] so the only thing in the document is postfix ? [19:44] you have made many changes since that cocument [19:44] documenat [19:44] bah [19:44] i need smaller fingers [19:44] Scuzz: Yeah quite a bit of changes. [19:44] Scuzz: I will see if I can't get that updated this week [19:44] Scuzz: its still an easy tutorial though and it will work for you :) [19:44] thanx i apreciate it [19:44] it will at least get a working mail server up and running with proper content filtering [19:45] and switching to maia mailguard is a breeze [19:45] oh sendmail. patrick needs to embrace ipv6. [19:46] impy (n=impy@100.88-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [19:46] postfix does ipv6 quite easily ;) [19:47] thats shipped with slackware now? [19:47] ardya: no,but there is a build script on slackbuilds.org. [19:48] sendmail is fine, I just rebuild it, like all the other non-ipv6 aware apps [19:52] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck_@bl4-216-164.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [19:52] mint (n=mint@204.116.25.213) joined ##slackware. [19:52] test [19:53] mint (n=mint@204.116.25.213) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:54] impy (n=impy@100.88-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [19:54] fail. [19:55] hello happy slackers [19:55] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) joined ##slackware. [19:55] Plasmastar (i=Plasma@unaffiliated/plasmastar) left irc: Client Quit [19:58] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.18.208) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:01] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:02] Does anyone here use VMWare? [20:02] why [20:03] I have a stange issue that I am seeing with KDE when I enable Desktop Effects together with running Windows 7 Professional on VMWare Workstation 7. [20:03] Specifically, the Windows desktop or display is not shown until motion occures via the mouse, and then the screen is flashed up there for a split second. Repeated movement of the mouse constantly results in a sort of rapid flickering effect of the Windows Desktop. [20:06] winders is broken [20:06] PurpleSmurf: Are you sure that this is the problem? [20:06] heh [20:07] mixing local bits with foreign bits is problematic :) [20:07] foreign bits are not convertible to local bits. :) [20:07] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.18.208) joined ##slackware. [20:08] would qemu provide the same functionality that VMware provides that you can use? [20:08] arcfide, have you installed the vmware tools on the virtual machine? [20:08] It tends to resolve a lot of video problems [20:09] corey (n=corey@adsl-99-56-123-92.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:09] slackbox: Yes, actually, it appears that the video problem starts as soon as VMWare tools is able to run. [20:09] slackguru: ^^^ [20:09] PurpleSmurf: Qemu wouldn't come close. :-) [20:10] If you uninstall the tools does it stop? [20:10] grazymax (n=grazymax@host20-159-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:12] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-99-188-111-120.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] hey everyone [20:12] has anyone had an issue with Slackware64 13 messing with their system time? [20:12] you have, detail the problem [20:13] i just installed it a week ago on my laptop and like, every time i reboot it adds 2 hours to the current time [20:13] i have the right time zone set up, i've even tried using a time zone 2 hours before [20:13] openvx would arcfide, but anyway, if you unstill the VMware tools and the problems stops it would be my personal opinion that you installed from binary and thatyou will neet to rather dowwnload the source and compile the kernel modules for your kernel because you video hardware was not included in the binary installer [20:13] also like i've tried it with utc and non utc [20:13] uninstall the vmware tools^^^ [20:14] ardya, so you're freenoding from now on? [20:14] so yea anyone have an idea why my time keeps getting messed up? [20:14] I never left efnet [20:14] ahh [20:14] or at least know which script would be changing it? [20:14] I've been on freenode 2 years [20:14] yea but i've never seen you in here [20:15] jeev: walk the dog or something [20:15] not a very lively channel, no sensee in sticking around [20:15] slackguru: I installed what from Binary? [20:15] i've been out the whole day deco, go walk your mom. she needs the exercise [20:15] ah [20:15] heh [20:15] good one :P [20:15] im still trying to remember what that hardware is [20:15] arcfide, Did you install VMware from binary? [20:16] LinuxyErin: check bios? [20:16] run ntpd? [20:16] egregor (n=egreg@unaffiliated/lombard) left irc: "leaving" [20:16] i have run ntpd [20:16] and I didn't see anything in the bios that would be doing it [20:16] apn (n=apn@12.34.13.132) joined ##slackware. [20:17] slackguru: I installed it from their installer, and I don't know whether they use binaries or not in there. [20:17] I presume that they do. [20:17] LinuxyErin, if your BIOS time is set to GMT and that is 2 hours difference from where you are, that could be the problem. Is your BIOS clock set right? [20:17] hmm let me check [20:17] If you used an installer its a binary arcfide, can you compile from source? [20:18] slackguru: This is VMWare we're talking about here. [20:19] what i do is set my BIOS clock to 24 hour local time (military time) where 1 PM = 13:00 or 6 PM = 18:00 and set Linux to my local time zone [20:21] any suggestions on some very tiny hardware to run linux on ? i want to set up a new router [20:21] arcfide, what version of vmware [20:22] 7. [20:22] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-124-215.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [20:23] hmm i just set the time in the bios [20:23] rather than from linux [20:23] and so far the time hasn't been changed [20:23] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [20:23] lets see if it changes after a reboot [20:23] And it does have support for my graphics driver to some degree, because if I run with the Intel card it indicates that it doesn't have support, but if I run with the ATI card that I am using right now, it does not give me any such warning. [20:23] maybe the bios doesn't like linux setting the time for it [20:23] the person i got it from lives 2 hours ahead of me lol [20:23] slackguru: There are some things related to compiz in the Knowledgebase of VMware. [20:24] hmm yea [20:24] seems the bios just never let the change occur [20:24] slackguru: However, on Slackware I can't seem to find a ccsm binary. [20:24] And I can't see compiz running at the moment in KDE, so I'm just waiting. [20:25] I'm trying other things before I go back down that route. [20:25] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:25] Which slackware arcfide [20:25] use windowmaker arcfide :-p [20:25] Slackware64 13.0. [20:25] LinuxyErin: Hahah. [20:25] pekwm ftw! :) [20:25] LinuxyErin: I was using MaXX. [20:25] olvwm. [20:26] jeev, one of these? http://www.plugcomputer.org/ [20:27] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SheevaPlug [20:27] yes! sheeva [20:27] what ever happened to it [20:27] got sheevedd [20:28] was that a joke? [20:28] no, then im remembering something else [20:28] hm, single ethernet [20:29] maybe i should build an atom [20:30] split one, that'd be more impressive [20:30] heh [20:30] rantantan (n=rantanta@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:30] parts are pretty hard to come by... =\ [20:31] I thought I knew the answer to your problem arcfide, but I totally brainfarted, I have switched to virtualbox-ose [20:31] It's so much like VMware, I forgot. Sorry arcfide... [20:31] slackguru: I am fairly certain it has to do with a bad interaction of VMWare's use of OpenGL and KDE's use, because if I disable one or the other from using OpenGL and the accelerated graphics, then things work. [20:32] i could fill a thousand sheevaplugs in my cage [20:32] that'd be cool [20:33] a cage huh, moving up in the world of real estate? :) [20:34] as for compiz settings in Slackware, I use the system settings in favorites and all of compiz settings are in there, but I am still 32bit 13.0 on an old laptop [20:34] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-124-215.ewe-ip-backbone.de) joined ##slackware. [20:34] ardya, my master gave me a tiny cage.. i get food in a bowl once a week only [20:34] sue [20:34] Got to step away arcfide [20:34] you're in america now [20:35] ardya, yea but his name is george dubbya bush, i can't do anything to him.. plus he's always drunk and high [20:35] thats so last year dude, your daddy is black now [20:35] all he has to do is like to the people and they'll think im bad, that's why he has me caged up [20:35] um what is the name of that file manager that is in the command line [20:35] no he kept me [20:35] Nick change: Hyena -> Xeliaa [20:35] coolkehon: ls? [20:35] it's uses command line graphics like lynx, nano, etc [20:36] ardya, neh [20:36] ls --color=auto? [20:36] no [20:36] it's not ls [20:36] it has two panes [20:36] mc [20:36] i just can't remember the name [20:37] wow xchat has completion of multiple names didn't know that [20:37] if i press m and do it twice it prints this [20:37] mac- macman_ madbear mag0o mako-sama mancha mario MAssEy Matt Meckafett merciful_ metriccwrench metrofox mishehu ml4711_ mmlj4 mohaa MrJackson mrselfpwn mshade murmlos [20:37] If the ispconfig installation is prompting me to "Please enter my MySQL server: " what exaclty does it want me to enter? [20:37] wtf :o [20:37] :| [20:37] ur r00t p455wd [20:37] highlighted huh [20:38] wtf is ispconfig [20:38] shut yo mouthz bitch [20:38] ardya: A graphical interface for configuring aspects of my web-server through a browser [20:38] but um anyway [20:38] ok, WHY? [20:38] anyway apologize mufuka [20:38] pthreat (n=pthreat@201.250.30.19) joined ##slackware. [20:38] i'm sory aahom [20:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKzDY54pTV8 xchess bug [20:39] stupid piece of crap :@ [20:40] mohaa, why are you so mean :( [20:40] Action: coolkehon cries *laughs* [20:40] mancha, you using chrome? [20:40] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] mohaa, ? is there any problem? [20:41] :D [20:41] no nachox_san :) [20:41] there is a command line file manager [20:41] does any one know the name of it [20:41] had to deal wit a suka [20:41] mc [20:41] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-071-068-037-030.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:41] mpf [20:41] mc, a clone of norton commander [20:41] [02:36'31]< cteg> mc [20:41] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-071-068-037-030.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [20:42] what's mc [20:42] ls! [20:42] suka + autocompletion = epic failures !! [20:42] midnight commander [20:42] coolkehon, midnight commander [20:42] that's it [20:42] coolkehon, mc [20:42] couldn't remember the name thanks [20:42] $ whatis mc [20:42] mc (1) - Visual shell for Unix-like systems [20:42] mohaa, i dont care, watch your language, or i'll make sure you'll not be able to use it here [20:43] LnxSlck, didn't know it was installed [20:43] jmonter (i=47689732@gateway/web/freenode/x-ipmbplaiflpdboug) joined ##slackware. [20:43] coolkehon, it comes with slack [20:43] thanks [20:43] Hi all, does anyone know what ConsoleKit? [20:44] what ConsoleKit what? [20:44] jmonter: do you know what Google? [20:44] consolekit lets the system know which users are logged in and active [20:44] Kde says ConsoleKit was not foundactive on your poc. [20:44] poc? [20:44] nachox_san he let me no choice he got got what he deserved :) sorry for the inconvenience though [20:44] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit (first link on google) [20:45] briareus (n=briareus@ip24-251-35-116.ph.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [20:45] mohaa: :) [20:45] I did do a google search and didn't find anything about it. [20:45] wei metrofox san :D [20:45] jmonter, lol, don't believe you :> [20:45] is there a slackware package? [20:45] thx, BP [20:45] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.149.226) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:46] no, consolekit needs more than to just be installed. you need to build hal against it, at least [20:46] slackware KDE looks fopr something slackware doesnt ship? [20:47] powerdevil can use it, I think [20:47] is that what he's so eloquently saying? [20:47] hmm. [20:47] thrice`, doesnt it rely on pam too? [20:47] Action: metrofox bows to mohaa [20:47] nachox, nope, optional [20:48] I polkit does, I think [20:48] I just can't seem to get KDE 4 to work properly. Using slackware current. I really hate the new KDE. [20:48] consolekit << ain't that the stuff needed for kde4.4 too ? [20:48] no [20:48] jmonter: What is the problem? [20:48] oh. -current. [20:48] argually many desktop functionnalities depend on -_- [20:48] yea kde 4 is crappy [20:49] i'm tempted to just get rid of the kde stuff on my laptop [20:49] I rather like it. [20:49] i don't use very much of it [20:49] as it is already [20:49] but I thought it would not make its way to slack (unless freebsd guys use it) [20:49] I don't think the applications are anything to love, though. I think KOffice is rather poor. [20:49] well yeah, it's time to go to bed, it's 2.50 a.m.! [20:49] mohaa: salutami i ragazzi di syrol :P [20:49] n8 metrofox san [20:49] mohaa: what has freebsd development to do with Slackware development? [20:49] power manager states: There are some issues in your configuration. Please check the Capabilities page for more details. [20:50] slackware is supposed to be really similar to bsd [20:50] metrofox san in effetti che combini ? [20:50] which is a good thing lol [20:50] bsd is awesome [20:50] LinuxyErin: Slackware claims to be the most UNIX like Linux, and I think it achieves that end. [20:50] english only please [20:50] mohaa: don't know :P I disappeared for a while, I think I'll join tomorrow ;) [20:50] I'm a nerd now :P [20:50] arcfide not agree w/ that [20:51] mohaa: by the way, see ya tomorrow ^^ greet me the guys [20:51] what's the point on waiting that freebsd uses something to start using it too in Slack [20:51] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-246-249.33-151.iol.it) left irc: "WeeChat 0.3.0" [20:51] that wanabee-bsd behaviour is just nerdish [20:52] and the Capabilities page for more details. says ConsoleKit was not found active on your PC. [20:52] rantantan (n=rantanta@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) left irc: [20:52] same for PAM [20:52] and I also have issues with no device being show on the Device Notifier when they are plugin. [20:53] looks like we need for some freebsd PSA to start using it in Slackware *shame* [20:55] mohaa: No one is claiming that Slackware only does things after BSD does something. I think however, there is a lot to be said for not doing things just because the rest of Linux Distributions do it that way. [20:55] When it comes to precedence and workflow, &c, I'm much more in favor of using BSD as our model. [20:56] It's simpler, easier to manage, and much less prone to spontaneous catastrophic failure. [20:56] our model haz portz we haz none :D [20:57] that's already a failure [20:57] Huh? [20:57] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left irc: "leaving" [20:57] Again, we don't have to *be* BSD. [20:58] that wanabee-bsd behaviour is just nerdish <<< here's what I said [20:58] sirslacker (n=aligp@p579B499B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [20:59] the PAM and *KIT stuff are good examples [20:59] I don't get where you think that A) there is such behavior or B) that it is nerdish. BSDs have a lot going for them. [20:59] You mean about not having PAM available? [20:59] yes [20:59] And what was wrong with the reasoning that was given? [21:00] It's an added complexity that reduces security; I don't see how that is wannabe BSD behavior. [21:00] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: "leaving" [21:00] to me it turned like this :"bsd haz no Pam therefore Pam haz no good" [21:00] Are you saying that the reason given wasn't the real reason. [21:00] s/\./?/ [21:00] pam reduces security? [21:00] sir yes sir [21:00] hahaha [21:00] thrice`, that's the official reason [21:01] it's not [21:01] it WAS the official reason [21:02] Well, I remember using PAM a while back and it annoyed me. I'm not losing any sleep over not having it. But then again, I'm an OpenBSD user when I am not a Slackware user, so...does that mean I don't count? :-) I use Slackware because it's simple, straightforward, and isn't full of the same stuff that feels up Red Hat Enterprise Linux and the rest of them. [21:03] So, what's the method of opening a Terminal from within Dophin at a specific location? [21:04] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:04] Ah there it is, under Actions. [21:04] shonudo (n=user@c-68-35-130-174.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] -_- [21:04] lol [21:04] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] thrice` it WAS ? [21:05] is there another one ? [21:05] yeah, Pat declared that like 4 years ago, security really isn't a risk any more. Pat is just stubborn (in his right, as its his distro) [21:07] impy (n=impy@100.88-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:08] Thank goodness for the Stubborn People. [21:08] thrice`, anyone brought up PolicyKit with him? :P [21:08] :-P [21:08] NthDegree: I am sure someone has, yes. [21:08] pthreat_ (n=pthreat@201.250.55.80) joined ##slackware. [21:08] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [21:10] soon he will have to deal with polkit :> [21:10] deco (n=deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: "leaving" [21:10] yay they changed the name for Pat but still... [21:12] slackware is the sole remaining serious distro that doesn't use pam [21:12] pthreat_ (n=pthreat@201.250.55.80) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:12] i dont use pam [21:12] this is all you need to know :) [21:12] sIRC (n=sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) joined ##slackware. [21:12] nor policykit [21:12] it's probably the only distro that doesnt use pam [21:12] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [21:12] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left ##slackware. [21:13] gonza__ (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [21:13] gonza__ (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Connection reset by peer [21:13] nachox i said serious since i can imagine several homebrew lfs-style distros that aren't pammified [21:13] lfs is not a distro [21:13] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) joined ##slackware. [21:13] reading is hard [21:14] mancha is using kde? [21:14] sIRC (n=sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [21:14] smica (n=smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: "Távozom" [21:14] huh? [21:15] mancha, you using chrome? [21:15] jmonter (i=47689732@gateway/web/freenode/x-ipmbplaiflpdboug) left irc: "Page closed" [21:16] Chrome??? [21:16] when did this become 20 questions [21:16] google chrome [21:16] As in, G-g-g-google Chrome??? [21:16] yes [21:16] Yeck! [21:16] Action: arcfide spits on the ground and grinds his distaste into the mud. [21:17] heh [21:17] LnxSlck, i have chrome though I am not "using" it in the sense of it being my default browser [21:17] yea i dont really like chrome either [21:17] i dislike not being able to deactivate plugins selectively [21:17] reminded me of opera also something i dont like [21:17] couse i wanna know if installing some gst-plugins might solve my problem (some mp3's won't play on amarok) [21:17] or other kde music programs, audacious works ok with it [21:17] mancha, can you see if this app is working? http://qos.sapo.pt/ [21:17] Lnx, what is that? [21:17] mancha, it should calculate your internet connection [21:18] mancha, it's a webpage with a flash app, that calculates internet connection speed [21:18] I use Opera. I love it. [21:19] sIRC (n=sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) joined ##slackware. [21:19] Oh, thats exactly why i dislike chrome, it doesn't let me selectively disable my gnash plugin as firefox does. i don't do flash [21:19] mancha, me neither. i just wanted to see if it works there [21:19] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-24-109.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] you'll need to ask someone who uses flash then, sorry can't help here. [21:20] ok [21:20] thanks anyways [21:21] acidtripper and i won't be able to help you either re: amarok [21:21] u can probably forceably remove the flash plugin [21:21] itll be a .so file [21:21] noone there have same problem while playing music on kde apps? [21:21] pthreat (n=pthreat@201.250.30.19) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:21] CcSsNET that's not the point [21:21] do you have xine-lib installed ? [21:21] i've upgraded to current and installed gst-plugins good, now im installing bad and ugly but really i don't know whats happening [21:22] thanks anyway mancha [21:22] i know i can remove the flash/gnash plugin since i was the one who put it there. but i want the browser to let me control this [21:22] i c ur point, but im just saying :P [21:23] im using xine and frontend [21:23] write a bug report [21:23] thats the whole point of bug reports to make things better ;) [21:23] yes xine-lib is installed thrice` [21:23] CcSsNET, that's not really a bug [21:24] sure it is [21:24] feature request [21:24] right now compilling some gst plugins.. i'll [21:24] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:24] or improvment [21:24] someone is in charge of gui interface and they failed to consider something [21:25] there will be always things to consider [21:25] the thing is, does it not work as it should? = bug [21:26] maybe phonon continue buggie [21:27] and gst-plugins-ugly won't compile /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format [21:27] you're on -current, update the version from SBo [21:28] sounds like a 32/64 bit issue to me [21:28] no, gstreamer version mismatch [21:29] im on current and i have installed from slackware repos gst-pulgins-good [21:30] and slack version is newer that sbo one [21:30] sigh [21:30] thrice`, ! [21:30] is anyone here familiar with ispconfig? [21:30] ok, if you're on -current, obviously don't compile gst-plugins-good from SBo [21:30] apn (n=apn@12.34.13.132) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:31] if you're compiling gst-plugins-ugly from SBo, you need to bump the version to be compatable with that in -current [21:31] so, i have to modify gst...slackbuild? [21:32] sorry, I don't think I have the patience to help you - good luck [21:32] smoooth (n=smoooth@cpe-098-024-240-002.ec.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:32] blackb1t (n=blackb1t@c-24-19-212-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: [21:32] thanks, i only want to know howto do to buump version [21:32] lool [21:33] I would think that someone running -current would have that knowledge. [21:33] well, thanks guys for helping [21:34] s/would/should [21:34] acidtripper, just use all packages from current [21:34] chopp: point. [21:34] acidtripper, remove and reinstall gst plugins [21:34] acidtripper, alsaconf and alsamixer, reboot and pray [21:34] LnxSlck, im using all packages from current and i was compiling gst-ugly from slackbuilds and gave me an rerror [21:35] how does a f*ing webbrowser manage to use 1gig of ram :P [21:35] niels_horn (n=niels@189.106.166.178) joined ##slackware. [21:35] cache [21:35] acidtripper, slackbuild is for slack 13 riht? [21:35] they must have hired ex-microsoft employees ^ [21:35] yes [21:35] LnxSlck: yes, we only support the latest stable. [21:35] couse as i know there isn't a repo for current [21:36] BP{k}, of course, maybe that's why the build failed [21:36] acidtripper, you need to make the necessary changes if you plan on using 13 slackbuilds on current [21:36] but i would like to know howto bump that version... let me check [21:36] LnxSlck: well since there seems to be a huge lack of proper error reporting and asking a question properly .. I guess we could guess until the cows come home. :) [21:36] lol [21:36] /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format [21:36] that's the error BP{k} [21:37] Incompatible libs, most likely. [21:37] the fat lady doesn't sing until she sees the cows comehome [21:37] come home* [21:37] and the error im trying to solve is that amarok and kde sound apps won't play some specific mp3 files [21:37] Gentlemen; I rest my case with regards to proper error reporting. :) [21:37] WildWizard: ok, ram cache was set to automatic... not a good idea I guess =) [21:37] Action: BP{k} goes back to working on his backup script. [21:38] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:38] auto = whatever I feel like [21:38] acidtripper: 1) you've mixed 32bit and 64bit libs. 2) you don't need to run -current. 3) sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear. [21:38] hehe, wife is exercising and i'm correcting her form.. with a beer in my hand and bratwurst on the mind. [21:38] bratwurst? [21:38] gst-plugins-ugly is 32bits? [21:38] agentc0re: win :) [21:38] BP{k}: huge win. :D hahah [21:38] i have multilib packages installed [21:38] agentc0re: so .. uhm .. sleeping on the couch tonight again, right? :D [21:39] rworkman, uninstalling some 32bits audio libs might solve the problem? [21:39] hehe, no. she didn't see the beer yet. :P [21:39] hey, we got your hotdogs, now our revenge is bratwurst [21:39] acidtripper: http://sweet.nodns4.us/ will tell you what you need to do. [21:39] harksaw (n=sharcle@71-85-9-059.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [21:40] i want cowsay. i cant believe there is no slackbuild [21:40] cteg: it's in pending/, have patience. [21:40] really? hehe nice [21:40] havent notices that [21:40] noticed [21:41] slackwarebob (n=bobby@user-0cetr70.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [21:41] will snmpd include support for sensors3? [21:41] Hello People. [21:41] sIRC (n=sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) left irc: [21:41] cowsay as in the ascii art thing? [21:42] cteg: I noticed today by chance it is in pending... this brought back memories! [21:42] :) [21:43] it must be simple to build if you can't wait. [21:43] yeah sure [21:43] cowsay -f head.in.cow ouch [21:43] BP{k}, shut up! this is a IRC support channel and i tried to solve the problem at my own but this it fu*ing driving me mad, so i decided to ask here if someone could help... if you don't want to help just don't answear im asking in a proper and respectful way. [21:43] And I agree... It's a very valuable addition to SBo. [21:43] with fortunes, irreplacable [21:44] What is fu*ing? [21:44] fustaring! [21:44] thought i smelled a load of crap [21:44] fucking :P [21:44] Action: niels_horn suggests passion fruit juice: calms the nerves... [21:45] but i really hate that attitude i asked in a respectful way, i problem that is bothering me and have several bugs, which -current solved [21:45] a* [21:46] i don't want to discuss or get that attitude simply asked if someone could give me a hand [21:47] powtrix (n=powtrix@189-69-20-57.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:47] your question was: "how to bump a build", right? [21:47] is everything ok? [21:47] sIRC (n=sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) joined ##slackware. [21:47] clijunkie (i=1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) joined ##slackware. [21:47] mancha: I remember something like -f tux (from memory, not very reliable) [21:48] sIRC (n=sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) left irc: Client Quit [21:48] acidtripper: you don't get to decide how BP{k} or anyone else answers, and you certainly don't need to tell him "shut up." The link he gave you, while not at all what you *wanted* to see, is exactly what you *needed* to see. [21:48] niel, try mine :) [21:48] yes, but i don't know if installing gst-plugins-ulgy will solve that problem [21:48] acidtripper: that link is a very respectful way of saying what needs to be said. [21:48] Action: CcSsNET claps for rworkman [21:49] by the way, what happened to the penguins that appeared on boot time? [21:49] but, let's see.. i don't know where to start [21:49] now i get 2 cats wearing masks? [21:49] i tried compiling xine libs at my own and won't solve the problem [21:49] LnxSlck: that's tuz, was in the 2.6.29 kernel series. [21:49] mancha: I do not have it installed... We had it at work years ago on a Linux box... I *think* it was Debian, but I'm not sure... [21:49] doesn't* [21:49] what does file /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so ? say? [21:49] taz = cat wearing mask? (i sure hope not) [21:49] fire|bird, hello =) [21:49] err s/?// [21:49] LnxSlck: hi :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux [21:50] sIRC (n=sIRC@122-148-175-5.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) joined ##slackware. [21:50] and i started searching howto solve that gub but didn't found and answear this is my latest chance [21:50] acidtripper: you have a system that is *far* from a stock 13.0, and there are numerous ways along the path you've traveled (installing multilib *and* -current packages) to screw it up. [21:50] niels_horn yeah, its a debian thang, so that sounds about right. well if you ever get on a box with cowsay then [21:50] Hello all. I've found that using ncurses based software within gnu screen produces odd looking lines/borders that are characters rather than the graphical respresentation. Outside of gnu screen it's fine. pkgtool and calcurses are examples. Any ideas how to resolve this? [21:50] Action: niels_horn is ROFL imagining cats wearing masks... [21:51] Woohoo! I've bot a sockets library that is fully general and extensible, fast, Schemely, and works on both Windows and Linux! It's also portable between Scheme systems! Woohoo! Hehehe. Sorry, I just have to celebrate. [21:51] acidtripper: it's okay for someone to do that if they desire, but you need to understand that it's a support nightmare, and you're not entitled to that support. [21:51] clijunkie are you sure your term codes aren't messed up? maybe using "reset" [21:52] clijunkie: utf8 LANG ? [21:52] mancha: as soon as it is approved, I'll install it! [21:52] crappy screen termcap? [21:52] rworkman, yes, but i have to upgrade to current do to several bugs mostly related to phonon, gst, xine qt support, etc [21:52] and problem is not completly solved yet [21:53] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [21:53] acidtripper: I don't know how to say this really, but -current isn't intended for users that need much support. [21:53] mancha: That fixed it. Rather than running that each time, where could my term codes be getting trashed? [21:53] clijunkie, that looks like a termcap issue, which is basically dark magic for most of us. i would start googling for termcap gnu screen [21:54] nachox: Glad I'm not alone :) [21:54] not alone where? [21:54] I know that screen "out of the box" doesn't like utf8. Adding "defutf8 on" to ~/.screenrc helps. [21:55] using C in LC_ALL might help too, just to be sure [21:55] although that's probably a bit extreme :D [21:55] hehe [21:56] rworkman, i understand that and i assume consecuencies but i think that giving a hand to a folk isn't to much trouble [21:56] rworkman: I'll give that a try [21:56] clijunkie welcome [21:56] that's the idea of a community.. [21:56] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:57] i recently encountered a really horrible utf8 situation with mrxvt terminal emulator [21:57] i had to set the terminfo to urxvt for mrxvt [21:57] and it tricked it to work :P [21:57] i know maybe you think im a bit noob, or just not capable of doing but i really like learning and in cases i can help to others ;) [21:58] acid but you also have to be ready for people not wanting to hold your hand as you learn... [21:58] acidtripper, I tried to explain, you are simply hitting a version mistmatch. change the gst-plugins-ugly slackbuild from 0.10.13 to 0.10.17 and try again [21:58] acidtripper, it's not like we dont want to help, it's that you mangled your system in so many ways that it's hard for us to consider all the variables. [21:59] or, wait [21:59] change -bad to 0.10.13 I think [21:59] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [21:59] when the gstreamer base updates (as -current has), the plugins should too (as SBo will not do, since they support 13). you need to do these things if you choose to run -current [22:00] rworkman: speaking of gst-plugins, can't Pat include -bad and -ugly? ;) [22:00] BP{k}, there is a reason they are called bad an ugly [22:00] I doubt it :) [22:00] urthwrm (n=urthwrm@203-214-139-180.perm.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [22:01] some cant be actually redistributed inside the us i believe [22:01] as long as he doesnt plan on redistributing it and only using it themselfs i dont see why not ^ [22:01] I was afraid that was the answer. :) [22:01] CcSsNET, pat would be redistributing it if he included them [22:01] yea, in that case no [22:02] im building a distro myself so im digging into all the legalities sadly :-/ [22:02] Srbo (n=Srbo@93.86.12.106) joined ##slackware. [22:02] mancha: you wanted cowsay?? http://www.nog.net/~tony/warez/cowsay-3.03.tar.gz [22:03] just what we need moar distros [22:03] after this xml case microsoft word just got its got me woried on xml too have to research that legality also now [22:03] Rat, i got it :) but niels'll thank you [22:03] cowsay isn't in slackbuilds or slackware [22:03] (yet) [22:03] Srbo_ (n=Srbo@93.86.220.218) joined ##slackware. [22:03] 23-Dec-2009 18:04 cowsay.tar.bz2 from http://slackbuilds.org/pending/ [22:04] i wont say its technically a distro from scratch. more of a remaster. based on sourcemage [22:04] BP{k}, what does the pending state mean= [22:04] LnxSlck: it means it was submitted to us, but we haven't had a chance to check it out yet. [22:04] ie: it's pending approval. [22:04] BP{k}, oh.. ok [22:05] Rat409 it is a very fun toy for the alcohol impaired :) [22:05] whats about that: Acme-Cow-0.1.tar.gz [22:05] have to test that [22:05] mancha: haha [22:05] theres an x-cowsay [22:05] the other one is xeyes and moving your mouse like a nut [22:06] but that's after the first bottle's done [22:06] ya think he regrets that tat? http://urlg.in/1dr [22:06] a figlet fork http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/toilet pretty cool [22:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [22:06] clijunkie (i=1000@mail.webmasterforhire.net) left ##slackware. [22:10] Rat409: I found the link just a few seconds before you mentioned it :) And found out about xcowsay as well... [22:10] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:10] Does slack have a hex editor included? if not anyone recommend one? [22:11] od [22:11] hexedit is another... [22:12] bpe is a hex editor in 13.0 [22:13] mcedit another [22:13] don't forget vim, it is wonderous [22:13] oh yes true [22:14] thanks [22:14] how do i search for a channel on irssi for freenode? /list $keyword /quote list $keyword /list *$keyword* /quote list *$keyword* i've tryed [22:15] its time, good night [22:15] cteg (n=heretic@host-091-097-124-215.ewe-ip-backbone.de) left irc: "this is who we are" [22:16] acidchild: tried #irssi ? [22:16] think its more a freenode thing ;/ [22:16] higuita (n=higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) joined ##slackware. [22:17] paissad_ (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:17] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [22:18] acidchild: ah I see... getting sleepy here (01:15 am) [22:18] acidtripper is building gst-plugins-bad-0.16 [22:18] niels_horn: eek. go to bed! :) [22:18] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck_@bl4-216-164.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Saindo" [22:18] agentc0re: I will... :) [22:19] i didn't mean od earlier, but i can't recall the one i did mean, two letter app [22:20] acidchild, i think freenode does not allow for that, those queries are too damn expensive [22:21] arghh2d2 (n=arghh2d2@cpe-98-30-113-178.woh.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:21] nachox: it allowed me to do /list [22:21] :P [22:21] but yah.. [22:22] IceChant (n=icechant@94.159.149.226) joined ##slackware. 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I used a hex editor called ht in the past [22:26] cbpye (n=cbpye@h21.104.90.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:26] yeah maybe ht, though i might have had a neuronal misfire and think od (which is a dump only) [22:27] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:27] coolkehon: don't be an idiot, please... you list nicks and it pages everyone on your list [22:27] coolkehon: or, "made you look" ... not cool [22:27] Action: niels_horn is falling asleep... [22:28] niels_horn (n=niels@189.106.166.178) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [22:29] paissad-hp (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:30] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [22:33] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [22:34] I have apache set up on my VPS- how could I configure it so that I could create a new user and place the website information in ~/www/ and apache would take care of the rest? [22:35] acidtripper (n=gonza@190.19.235.226) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [22:36] Or at least, what is that type of a configuration reffered as? [22:37] UserDir [22:38] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [22:40] khider: you need to uncomment "include /etc/httpd/extra/httpd-userdir.conf" <- and you want to check out that file as well [22:43] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-107-60.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [22:44] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:45] acidchild: /msg alis help list (for searching of channels). 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