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[00:02] <Urchlay> ergh. I don't actually see a way to search it, other that google "whatever site:lists.slackbuilds.org"
[00:03] <Urchlay> eh, and only slackbuilds-users is public, -devel isn't, and isn't indexed by google apparently
[00:03] <slakmagik> huh, seems to be the case. I was thinking there was a search function on the archives.
[00:04] <slakmagik> yeah, well it was in -users but, come to think of it, it might have been someone posting the results of lint-like checks, maybe they didn't publish a script at all.
[00:05] <slakmagik> so, have at it. :)
[00:06] <Urchlay> hmmm. http://lists.slackbuilds.org/pipermail/slackbuilds-users/2009-January/003628.html mentions a pkg-sanity script
[00:06] <Urchlay> don't actually see the pkg-sanity script itself anywhere though
[00:07] <Urchlay> ah, here we go: http://homepages.wmich.edu/~p2warner/files/scripts/pkg-sanity
[00:07] <Urchlay> eh, it doesn't really do all that much, does it?
[00:08] <slakmagik> Hm. Nope, it really doesn't.
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[00:09] <slakmagik> I think there's something else - I had a really elaborate command line checking for out-of-spec slack-descs but I remember someone reporting a large number of little out-of-spec details.
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[00:09] <Rat409> splits heh
[00:09] <slakmagik> That script wouldn't do it. And that mail was just a sort of warning; not a major report.
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[00:10] <slakmagik> Whee. We may be experiencing some turbulence. Please make sure your seat trays are locked in the upright position.
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[00:10] <Urchlay> slakmagik: I was actually thinking the tool needs to read the .info file, try to download the source, md5sum it, compare against the md5sum in the .info...
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[00:11] <slakmagik> yeah, that sort of thing. Were you meaning a sort of pre-check of other people's packages (like that was) or just to make sure your own were right?
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[00:11] <Urchlay> mostly to make sure my own are OK
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[00:12] <Urchlay> before I try to submit them...
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[00:12] <slakmagik> yeah, well, that would be simpler. Also do a check of the perms in the finished package, either the tarball or the hierarchy the tarball's made from, to make sure the perms really did get right and so on.
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[00:13] <Urchlay> yeah. Actually that part, checking the built package, would be useful for any slackware package, not just SBo ones
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[00:13] <slakmagik> yep
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[00:13] <Urchlay> there actually is a tool called "pkglint" but it's for NetBSD pkgsrc packages. Maybe can get some ideas from it at least
[00:13] <Cann0n> WHOA!!!
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[00:26] <Urchlay> er, so that was awful
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[00:38] <charle97> looks like the ride isn't over
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[00:38] <hackedhead> holy bananas. ... well i'm glad to know that was freenode's fault and not mine.... haha
[00:38] <nullboy> this is why freenode can't do ssl
[00:38] <Dominian> charle97: ride is over.. freenode was definitely hosed
[00:38] <Dominian> I couldn't hit ANY of their servers
[00:38] <Packeteer> somebody rebooted the matrix
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[00:38] <hackedhead> did _everything_ go down?
[00:38] <Dominian> looksl ike it
[00:38] <charle97> seemed so
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[00:39] <nullboy> i'm in ur trees, disconnecting ur links
[00:39] <Dominian> I was getting pings back fromt he hosts.. but no connections at all to ircd
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[00:39] <Dominian> I love that.. "netsplit over"
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[00:39] <Dominian> that wasn't a netsplit.. that was a freakin' nuke
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[00:40] <thumbs> what the hell happened
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[00:40] <Dominian> thumbs: dunno
[00:40] <Dominian> thumbs: they haven't sent out a global notification yet
[00:40] <Dominian> I'm guessing a DDoS
[00:40] <Urchlay> maybe it was a "netsplat"
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[00:40] <Urchlay> like the network going *splat*
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[00:41] <Dominian> Ok enough fun for me tonight... I'm going to bed
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[00:41] <nullboy> oh wait here's the notice: 'We're sorry, your call did no go through. would you please hang up and try your call again. doo dee doo"
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[00:42] <hackedhead> i can't see the convo for all the cyan ( ** has join ##slackware)
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[00:42] Action: edman007 stabs everyone
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[00:44] <nullboy> looks like it might be an attack
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[00:45] <jkwood> Wait... we have somebody named sluttyduck in here?  How was I not aware of this?
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[00:46] <edman007> sluttyduck, hey baby
[00:47] <rapid> haha
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[00:47] <jkwood> There they go again!
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[00:48] <chopp> edman007: your assuming it's daisy, but I think it's donald.
[00:48] <edman007> chopp, :(
[00:48] <nullboy> this is the equivalent of internet mortar attacks
[00:48] <Rat409> yuh that was rude
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[00:49] <nullboy> someone! set us up the oftc!!!!
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[00:50] <Motoko-chan> nullboy, there is already something on oftc
[00:51] <nullboy> i know..
[00:51] <nullboy> and oftc does ssl
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[00:51] Action: Motoko-chan nods
[00:51] <Motoko-chan> It's superior.
[00:51] <nullboy> it's like crack. once you oft you never go back
[00:52] Action: edman007 slaps nullboy 
[00:52] <chopp> so let's move in and take over the oftc channel. :P
[00:52] <nullboy> looks like njan is either trying to disconnect bots so fast that he is flooding...or he is pwnd
[00:53] <edman007> nullboy, i think the bots are probably PMing him....
[00:53] <nullboy> fscking botnets
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[00:54] <edman007> i haven't seen any bots in the channels though, so i'm thinking its a DDoS
[00:54] <nullboy> yeah
[00:54] <nullboy> that made the channel look like a quake 3 console buffer
[00:55] <nullboy> in a 60 person DM
[00:55] <edman007> hahaha
[00:56] <edman007> i love games like that, you don't see it until you take a break and see the whole screen filled
[00:56] <nullboy> omfg
[00:56] <nullboy> it's a racial bot attack
[00:56] <nullboy> this has got to be a first for something
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[00:57] <edman007> yea, i see that one in ##windows, just repeating the same thing, but its not flooding or anything, and its one nick
[00:57] <edman007> <mcmillen> hubbard.freenode.net got a segfault
[00:57] <edman007> 0_0
[00:57] <nullboy> ownage
[00:57] <thumbs> what the hell
[00:58] <edman007> wait, that guy is not staff though, so i don't know if you can trust that...
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[01:00] <Rat409> wallops?
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[01:01] <SiegeX> <elly> "dancer-ircd.fre[15809]: segfault at 00000000 eip b7edfb48 esp bfc0362c error 4"
[01:01] <SiegeX> from #freenode
[01:01] <SiegeX> looks legit
[01:01] <edman007> Rat409, i'm in freenode
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[01:01] <Motoko-chan> Hopefully they don't try to say everyone was an idiot.
[01:01] <Rat409> oh thanks
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[01:01] <mib_z2rj7740>  Over 80% of Negros lack the necessary genetic mutations for Microcephalin that are necessary for higher cognitive thought processes.  (Microcephalin Study, University of Chicago)  Learn this and evenmore facts about the feral niiiigggger beast at Chimpout.  http://www.chimpout.com/forum/index.php  All non-negroid races are welcome!  We love andrespect Asians, Whites, Indians, Native Americans, non-negroid Jews an
[01:01] <Motoko-chan> Like when I helpfully said the domain expired.
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[01:01] <Motoko-chan> And was told i was stupid.
[01:02] <jkwood> rworkman: ping
[01:02] <edman007> up, there it is...
[01:02] <jkwood> WTF... It's mibbit.
[01:02] <Motoko-chan> chimpout?
[01:02] <nullboy> freenode is owned this si ghey
[01:02] <thumbs> jkwood: I ban mibbit from our channel for that reason
[01:02] <Motoko-chan> That's just the funniest domain I've seen
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[01:02] <jkwood> And of course, axod is not where I can yell at him.
[01:02] <mib_z2rj7740> freenode is now an extension of Chimpout
[01:02] <mib_z2rj7740> change the topic to niggerlips or this continues
[01:03] <Urchlay> WTF is the deal with that kinda crap? my channel on newnet got DOS'ed by racist bots a while back...
[01:03] <Motoko-chan> mib_z2rj7740, go suck your father's dick.
[01:03] <jkwood> mib_z2rj7740: Good luck with that.
[01:03] <mib_z2rj7740>  Over 80% of Negros lack the necessary genetic mutations for Microcephalin that are necessary for higher cognitive thought processes.  (Microcephalin Study, University of Chicago)  Learn this and evenmore facts about the feral niiiigggger beast at Chimpout.  http://www.chimpout.com/forum/index.php  All non-negroid races are welcome!  We love andrespect Asians, Whites, Indians, Native Americans, non-negroid Jews an
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[01:03] <nullboy> we're all gunna die.
[01:03] Action: Motoko-chan wonders if mib_z2rj7740 knows about /ignore
[01:03] <Urchlay> ...if the only way you can get people to pay attention to your message is to take over their networks and spew spam at them, maybe you ought to rethink your message...
[01:04] Action: Motoko-chan thinks mib_z2rj7740 might be a "nigger" then, since they seem to lack cognitive thought that this is a bad way to gain followers
[01:05] <mib_z2rj7740>  Over 80% of Negros lack the necessary genetic mutations for Microcephalin that are necessary for higher cognitive thought processes.  (Microcephalin Study, University of Chicago)  Learn this and evenmore facts about the feral niiiigggger beast at Chimpout.  http://www.chimpout.com/forum/index.php  All non-negroid races are welcome!  We love andrespect Asians, Whites, Indians, Native Americans, non-negroid Jews an
[01:05] <Motoko-chan> Anyway, how's that Slackware?
[01:05] <nullboy> mib_z2rj7740: do you need a hug?
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[01:06] <SiegeX> what, dont you guys remember the IRC takover of 1940 where a huge IRC coup caused the resignation of the president?
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[01:06] ##slackware: mode change '+o rworkman' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[01:06] <rworkman> The dungeon has collapsed. You die.
[01:06] <nullboy> SiegeX: we're all dead
[01:06] <mib_z2rj7740>  Over 80% of Negros lack the necessary genetic mutations for Microcephalin that are necessary for higher cognitive thought processes.  (Microcephalin Study, University of Chicago)  Learn this and evenmore facts about the feral niiiigggger beast at Chimpout.  http://www.chimpout.com/forum/index.php  All non-negroid races are welcome!  We love andrespect Asians, Whites, Indians, Native Americans, non-negroid Jews an
[01:06] ##slackware: mode change '+b mib_z2rj7740!*@*' by rworkman!n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman
[01:06] <rob0> mib_z2rj7740: bye
[01:06] <Motoko-chan> Yay!
[01:06] <edman007> finally
[01:06] mib_z2rj7740 kicked from ##slackware by rworkman: rworkman
[01:06] <rob0> it will be back
[01:06] <nullboy> i was just about ot get a hug from him though
[01:06] <rworkman> The bot isn't liking my ban line :/
[01:07] <acidchild> rworkman: what does video.7a69.co.uk
[01:07] <acidchild> resolve to for you?
[01:07] Action: rob0 hugs nullboy
[01:07] <rworkman> video.7a69.co.uk has address 208.92.232.20
[01:07] <acidchild> excellent :-)
[01:08] <SiegeX> did you rub your hands together when you said that?
[01:08] <rworkman> SportChick: are you going to be around for a bit?
[01:08] <acidchild> SiegeX: haha yes
[01:08] <SiegeX> =)
[01:09] <SportChick> rworkman: not too long but you should be ok
[01:09] <SportChick> rworkman: did you need something specific?
[01:09] <rworkman> SportChick: no, just about that mibbit guy.
[01:09] Action: Motoko-chan hugs nullboy 
[01:09] <rworkman> I guess I don't know the proper way to enter the hostmask in our bot, because it didn't "take" when I entered it :/
[01:10] <rworkman> er, maybe this is why:
[01:10] ##slackware: mode change '+o slackboy' by rworkman!n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman
[01:10] <jkwood> That would do it.
[01:10] <edman007> lol
[01:11] <Soul_keeper> i=48cf1683@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-18acaadbd7b6bd59     he's got one of them special deals
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[01:12] Action: rob0 feels shunned :(
[01:12] Action: thumbs shuns rob0 some more
[01:12] <edman007> should just ban anyone from mibbit.com, i never liked the random nicks
[01:12] <rob0> or was it Motoko-chan who was snubbed?
[01:12] <Motoko-chan> Hm?
[01:12] <Motoko-chan> What about me?
[01:12] <rob0> 06:11 -!- nullboy [n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy] has quit ["life in the rear view mirror"]
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[01:13] <thumbs> edman007: I agree
[01:13] <rob0> I guess he doesn't like our hugs. He likes racist hugs.
[01:13] <thumbs> edman007: anonymity is never a good idea with IRC
[01:13] <Motoko-chan> Yeah
[01:13] <edman007> yea
[01:13] <nullboy> no
[01:14] <jkwood> Mibbit has its uses.
[01:14] <jkwood> It also has its abusers, just like any other client.
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[01:14] Action: Motoko-chan thinks mIRC should be banned
[01:15] Action: rob0 should be banned!
[01:15] <edman007> jkwood, but i promotes random nicks, thats one thing i don't like
[01:15] <jkwood> Amen.
[01:15] Action: Motoko-chan should be banned too
[01:15] <edman007> /kill rob0
[01:15] <edman007> :(
[01:15] <jkwood> edman007: It's easy to change it.  I don't know why people don't.
[01:15] <rob0> just think how much more work we'd get done if we were banned!
[01:15] <Motoko-chan> Indeed
[01:16] <edman007> jkwood, but it should not offer a random one, it should force you to enter something
[01:16] <Rat409> irc@work probly and laziness
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[01:16] <edman007> rob0, no! i refuse to think of "work"!
[01:16] <jkwood> edman007: I'll be sure to let axod know.
[01:17] Action: Motoko-chan needs to focus on getting RADIUS and OpenVPN working at the office
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[01:18] <rob0> that sounds cool ... I have openvpn with TLS auth, but not Radius
[01:18] <Motoko-chan> But not right now.
[01:18] <edman007> ahh, yes, VPN, i got to figure out how to do that right now...
[01:18] <Old_Fogie> ooh /me pets his radius
[01:18] <Motoko-chan> RADIUS is more for Wireless.
[01:18] <acidchild> anyone know much about DVDripping? and encoding?
[01:18] <acidchild> how do i encode http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10016 filelay out to mpg or flv?
[01:18] <nullboy> i know nothing! nothing i say!
[01:19] <Motoko-chan> acidchild, handbrake.
[01:19] Action: Motoko-chan knows more, but won't reveal fansubber secrets
[01:20] <acidchild> did it compile easly on slackware?
[01:20] <Rat409> Old_Fogie: couldn't integrate the ascii logo you linked me too but managed to merge a couple scripts,slack pride for desktop screenies  http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8927/200901262218ej1.png
[01:20] <Old_Fogie> acidchild, for my needs k3b did a superb job on a test burn of family video off the video camera to go onto dvd
[01:21] <Rat409> borrowed one from Linux_logo i love foss and mix n match :)
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[01:21] <Old_Fogie> I say 'test' since I was really fiddle futsing ya know.  and it played on my sons dvd player at his house
[01:21] <rob0> But what if your family is Lucasfilms?
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[01:21] <Motoko-chan> And nice movie choice, btw.
[01:21] <Old_Fogie> Rat409, wow! that looks fantastic :)
[01:22] <Motoko-chan> Although the "special effects" are darn plastic looking.
[01:22] <Motoko-chan> On the recent issues, someone asking: <sloopy> someone toggled the switch from 'more magic' to just 'magic' ?
[01:25] <edman007> so has anyone used the cisco vpn client and have a slackbuild for it? or does something else work better?
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[01:27] <slackmagic> acidchild: I know I've used tovid scripts years ago, maybe that'll work for you too    http://tovid.sf.net/
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[01:28] <acidchild> cat VTS_01_0.VOB  VTS_01_1.VOB  VTS_01_2.VOB  VTS_01_3.VOB  VTS_01_4.VOB  VTS_01_5.VOB | /root/ffmpeg/ffmpeg -i - -f flv -vcodec flv -b 200k -r 25 -s 296x236 -ab 64 -ar 44100 -ac 2 -acodec mp3 tgp.flv
[01:28] <acidchild> is what i went for.
[01:28] <acidchild> lets see if it works.
[01:28] <jkwood> Gah
[01:28] <Rat409> wow
[01:29] <SiegeX> heh *.VOB would have probably saved some typing
[01:29] <SiegeX> or some form of glob
[01:29] <acidchild> i want CAT to read in some kinda order.
[01:29] <acidchild> cat*
[01:30] <SiegeX> it probably would, maybe 10.VOB and up would screw it up though
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[01:37] <acidchild> does ffmpeg use both cores?
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[01:38] <edman007> acidchild, it can, depends on the codec and algorithms used
[01:39] <acidchild> mkay
[01:39] <edman007> but it does not scale up to an arbitrary n number or threads
[01:39] <edman007> and in my experience, it was generally slower when i turned threading on anyways
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[01:40] <edman007> but it does depends on what you are doing, you could probably get better performance by just using some named pipes and doing all your passes by piping it
[01:40] <edman007> i think you can do that...
[01:41] Action: edman007 begins to wonder if this "VPN" my school gave me will work at all
[01:41] <acidchild> what protocol is it?
[01:41] <acidchild> can you atleast telnet to the socket on there router?
[01:41] <acidchild> =P
[01:42] Action: edman007 checks...
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[01:43] <edman007> i can telnet into it from the outside, the telnet port seems blocked from the inside...
[01:43] <edman007> what port does cisco vpn run on?
[01:43] <edman007> i can ssh from the outside, that also seems blocked from the inside...
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[01:45] <acidchild> i dunno man
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[01:46] <edman007> my prof want me to vpn into this box, then ssh over the vpn, and then vnc in and run kde just so i can run modelsim
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[01:46] <Rat409> http://www.mcmaster.ca/uts/network/vpn/vpnclient_linux.htm looks dated but maybe similar enough
[01:47] <acidchild> edman007: sounds awesome?
[01:47] <edman007> ugh...
[01:47] <edman007> i'm going to just download modelsim from their site and see if i can use the free/trial version
[01:47] <edman007> what do you thing, SE or LE? what one is better?
[01:48] <acidchild> Standard Edition?
[01:48] <acidchild> maybe?
[01:48] <edman007> alright, SE it is!
[01:49] Action: edman007 looks at the mile long form....
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[01:50] Action: edman007 gets a ftp url with a password in the url :x
[01:51] <acidchild> thats dumb
[01:51] <edman007> yea
[01:51] <acidchild> my god encoding takes a long time
[01:52] <Urchlay> depends. If they've got a script that changes the password every 10 minutes it's not *completely* horrible
[01:52] <redtricycle> I wish I had interesting stuff to encrypt
[01:52] <acidchild> i'm sure there is better authentication methods.
[01:52] <SiegeX> heh, it took me 30 hours to recode The Dark Knight to 720p WMV format so i can play it on my 360
[01:52] <redtricycle> so I can actually use gpg o_o
[01:52] <acidchild> redtricycle: email?
[01:52] <acidchild> slackmagic: wow
[01:52] <acidchild> lol
[01:52] <Urchlay> less annoying than javascript-driven http download crapplets (can't easily use wget with those)
[01:52] <redtricycle> my email consists of me asking my brother if he did his hw or not
[01:52] <redtricycle> ._.
[01:52] <acidchild> SiegeX*
[01:53] <redtricycle> pretty boring for anybody to want to know
[01:53] <acidchild> redtricycle: i wish mine was like that :-(
[01:53] <redtricycle> my...information is pretty boring T_T
[01:53] <slackmagic> acidchild: huh?
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[01:54] <edman007> Urchlay, they say it drops the pass in an hour, so not too bad, but why can't they do it over http and integrate it with your web session?
[01:54] <edman007> but they have a x86_64 linux/gcc one!
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[01:56] <edman007> To obtain a copy of the source code licensed under the GPL,.....his offer shall only be available for three years from the date Mentor Graphics Corporation first distributed the GPL licensed source code.
[01:56] <edman007> is that legal?
[01:56] Action: edman007 is going to request the source
[01:57] <redtricycle> so here's what I don't understand:
[01:57] <redtricycle> when people attach a gpg signatur eto the end of a forum post
[01:57] <redtricycle> how do you verify it that *they* wrote the post
[01:57] <redtricycle> What's the point, if you're ot decrypting anything?
[01:57] <redtricycle> not*
[01:59] <tewmten> morning
[01:59] <edman007> redtricycle, you take the data between the dashes, and you hash it, and then that data at the end can be decoded to get the id of somebodies gpg key, with their public key can you use the hash you generated to confirm that the hash matches the hash in the blob as verified by the owner of the gpg key (and only the one with the Private key can generate it)
[02:00] <redtricycle> So, you're hashing their forum post?
[02:00] <tewmten> does anyone here know if there's a configuration setting for PHP to set the maximum integer value? or how it is decided
[02:00] <edman007> redtricycle, yea, bug gpg does all that nasty work
[02:00] <tewmten> one of my webservers is giving too low integer values compared to the other ones, causing some problems :/
[02:01] <edman007> normally its not used on forums, its used in emails, where gpg is tied into the client to verify it
[02:02] <edman007> tewmten, 32-bits is not enough
[02:02] <edman007> it might be 64-bits on a 64-bit system, but if thats enough you can use the other math funcs
[02:02] <edman007> http://us2.php.net/bc
[02:02] <edman007> those funcs operate at arbitrary precision
[02:03] <tewmten> edman007: yeah it's 64bit servers, but one of them is giving a lower int value than the others and Im trying to figure out where that is specified in php5
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[02:03] <tewmten> only thing that I see different on the servers is that the faulty server has another extensions_dir
[02:03] <tewmten> I'll check that, thanks
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[02:05] <edman007> tewmten, are you checking PHP_INT_SIZE ?
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[02:05] <edman007> does that differ on the systems?
[02:05] <starfruit> i have problem mounting mac files, http://rafb.net/p/4l2dWp99.html
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[02:05] <edman007> tewmten, it could just be that you are not running a 64-bit version of php
[02:06] <tewmten> hm possible
[02:06] <tewmten> I need to check this
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[02:07] <nullboy> i got openvpn working finally
[02:07] <tewmten> edman007: thanks for the tips man :)
[02:07] <edman007> starfruit, a dmg is a generic wrapped image, it contains a lot of arbitrary data outside of the image, and it can be just about any format
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[02:07] <tewmten> bbl
[02:07] <starfruit> edman007, it's an os x, mac file
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[02:08] <edman007> starfruit, if you have access to a mac hdid will put it into a usable format
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[02:08] <edman007> starfruit, yes, and its not an image, you can't mount it like that
[02:08] <edman007> for all you know it could be a encrypted gzip'd sparse image
[02:08] <starfruit> i don't have access to hdid, edman007
[02:09] <nullboy> it's a real bitch to try and test openvpn setups without being on a different internet pipe
[02:09] <starfruit> edman007,  http://cord.sourceforge.net/
[02:09] <starfruit> that's what i am trying to use
[02:10] <edman007> but you said you don't have access to hdid
[02:10] <starfruit> edman007, i want to unzip that thing and bring it to school's computer lab.
[02:11] <starfruit> edman007, in lab, i don't have access rights to install software. so i am hoping this CoRD will run without installation
[02:11] <edman007> starfruit, when you double click it you can (usually) just run it right off the image, on the mac hdid reads it, determines the format, and mounts it
[02:11] <starfruit> edman007, ok.
[02:11] <starfruit> edman007, i was trying the microsoft one, http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/remote-desktop/default.mspx
[02:12] <edman007> in short you don't need to install software, plus on macs you can generally just copy it somewhere, since it probably does not have an installer, all the files are inside the .app bundle
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[02:12] <starfruit> but the msoft one asked me to install/enter password after i unzip it
[02:13] <nullboy> sdsdf
[02:13] <nullboy> it's working
[02:13] <nullboy> i can't see any packet data
[02:13] <edman007> starfruit, well MS sucks
[02:13] <edman007> that other app you found looks better, and should not require it
[02:13] <edman007> nullboy, i can't see you
[02:13] <edman007> are you a ghost?
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[02:14] <starfruit> edman007, yeah.  it's an install-version. and ask me for admin password.  hopefully CoRD won't ask me
[02:14] Nick change: juice_ -> juice
[02:14] <edman007> starfruit, i'll test it :)
[02:14] <starfruit> nullboy, i can see nullboy
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[02:15] <starfruit> edman007, dude!! you have a mac with you now?!?!
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[02:15] <edman007> starfruit, yea, it runs just fine off the dmg
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[02:15] <nullboy> i know it works!!
[02:15] <edman007> starfruit, and uhh, yea
[02:15] <starfruit> edman007, cool
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[02:16] <starfruit> now i can go to school's lab, and use that mac with giant screen, and remote into my windows netbook.
[02:17] <aetheria> hi guys.  i notice there's no bashrc anywhere.  i can create one of course, but why not include on in /etc/skel?
[02:17] <edman007> eww
[02:17] <edman007> aetheria, because i like the defaults!
[02:17] <nullboy> i need neighbors with wifi so i can test my openvpn setup now
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[02:18] <nullboy> i'm running WPA2-AES with openvpn now too
[02:19] <aetheria> i like the HISTCONTROL=ignoredups and some of the options to make cp and rm safer
[02:19] <SharkBait> When trying to compile eterm, its not recognising the directy libast is installed in, is there a command that will let me see where it is looking for the libast files so i can create a symlink to them?
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[02:22] <nullboy> wtf openvpn is leaking DNS queries
[02:22] <SiegeX> nullboy: if you really want to see what openvpn can do, look into anonet
[02:22] <nullboy> this is lame
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[02:22] <nullboy> why does it leak DNS queries
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[02:23] <Rat409> SharkBait: read the makefile?
[02:24] <Rat409> or maybe ./configure --help
[02:24] <Rat409> for setting path
[02:24] <edman007> nullboy, is everything configured to go over the vpn?
[02:24] <nullboy> yes
[02:25] <nullboy> the vpn is configured ot make that happen
[02:25] <nullboy> push "redirect-gateway local def1"
[02:27] <SiegeX> hmm, something is not right cause the openvpn docs say " When redirect-gateway is used, OpenVPN clients will route DNS queries through the VPN, and the VPN server will need handle them."
[02:27] <nullboy> yeah, it's not working entotal
[02:27] <nullboy> everything else is inside the vpn but i see browser dns queries leaking
[02:28] <edman007> maybe you are just looking too hard
[02:28] <SiegeX> did you do a "push "dhcp-option DNS 10.8.0.1"
[02:29] <SiegeX> or whatever ip the vpn server has
[02:29] <nullboy> SiegeX: yes
[02:29] <SiegeX> and are the clients not respecting that?
[02:30] <nullboy> this is lame
[02:30] <SiegeX> i.e what does /etc/resolve.conf say on the client?
[02:30] <nullboy> even ssh handles this better
[02:30] <SiegeX> or 'ipconfig /all' if its windows
[02:31] <nullboy> just pinging yahoo.com from the client shows DNS queries
[02:31] <nullboy> how retarded. i followed the howtos exactly
[02:31] <SiegeX> ok, but look at the resolv.conf
[02:31] <nullboy> it is updated
[02:31] <nullboy> it looks fine
[02:32] <SiegeX> so 'nameserver 10.8.0.1' shows up there *on top*?
[02:32] <SiegeX> cause if thats the case, openvpn did all it can do. the question is then why is your box not respecting it
[02:33] <nullboy> i see the isssue
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[02:33] <nullboy> i fixed it
[02:34] <nullboy> client and server are on the same lan with the same dns server
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[02:34] <edman007> rofl
[02:35] <nullboy> it was leaking because resolv.conf was correct...and i pushed 10.0.0.1 as the dns sever...but that's the dns server anyway
[02:35] <nullboy> so how can i fix it without using an internet dns server in my client's resolv.conf?
[02:36] <SiegeX> use a different subnete
[02:36] <SiegeX> *subnet
[02:36] <nullboy> the client and server are on the same subnet though
[02:36] <nullboy> i don't see a way to do it
[02:37] <nullboy> the vpn uses 172.16.0.0/24 and the physical network is 10.0.0.0/24. server is 10.0.0.2 and client is 10.0.0.23 and dns is 10.0.0.1 on the real network.
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[02:38] <SiegeX> so push 172.160.0.1 for DNS
[02:38] <nullboy> it fails
[02:38] <nullboy> 172.16.0.1 is not a dns server
[02:38] <SiegeX> you'll have to enable bind on the vpn server, just as a caching nameserver
[02:38] <nullboy> do you know the quick method?
[02:39] <nullboy> i know rob0 has some 2 step method for that
[02:39] <edman007> opendns?
[02:39] <SiegeX> you could use SNAT maybe
[02:39] <nullboy> i don't want to dick with nat
[02:39] <nullboy> my border is natting that's all i need
[02:40] <nullboy> edman007: how does opendns factor in here?
[02:40] <SiegeX> hmm, you could probably add a route to say to go through the tunnel even though the ip is reachable
[02:40] <nullboy> i just use pacbell's LA dns servers
[02:40] <guitarman4> heya, have any of you experience strange things with video display where thumbnails and animations are blurred or choppy display but other aspects of the desktop look fine?
[02:40] <edman007> nullboy, its on the internet, not on your 10.0.0.0 IP range or whatever you have
[02:40] <nullboy> SiegeX: that's what that config directive does already
[02:40] <edman007> guitarman4, screenshot?
[02:41] <SiegeX> the problem seems to be precedence though
[02:41] <Urchlay> actually if you have a default install of slackware 12.2, it looks like you can just "chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.bind; /etc/rc.d/rc.bind" and you've got a caching-only server
[02:41] <SiegeX> your client says, i dont need no stinking tunnel, i can get to 10.0.0.1 on my interface
[02:41] <nullboy> exactly
[02:41] <nullboy> i know
[02:41] <Urchlay> (dunno if that helps anyone or not...)
[02:41] <SiegeX> so you need to set a route that says, no bitch, go through 172.160.0.1 before i have to cut a hoe
[02:42] <SiegeX> and as long as the 172 box can get to 10.0.0.1 and can forward, it will get there
[02:42] <nullboy> SiegeX: i killed the original default gw so all that is left is the dfg via vpn but if you kill the normal route to 10.0.0.0/24 you loose vpn connectivity
[02:42] <nullboy> that's the issue
[02:43] <nullboy> the vpn server is 10.0.0.2 on the real network
[02:43] <nullboy> so killing all routes to 10/24 kills it all
[02:43] <SiegeX> ip route add 10.0.0.1/32 via 172.160.0.1
[02:43] <SiegeX> try that
[02:43] <SiegeX> but
[02:43] <nullboy> i see what you mean.
[02:43] <SiegeX> assuming that works, if the tunnel goes down, now you've lost connectivity to 10.0.0.1
[02:44] <guitarman4> edman007 - i don't sorry - its hard for me to describe. i just not sure if i troubleshot the problem correctly - need an a+ channel... its a windows install but i booted a linux live cd and couldn't quite duplicate the situation cause xorg wouldn't understand the card but xvesa at a basic level in seamonkey seamed ok... meh.
[02:45] <nullboy> test
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[02:45] <nullboy> SiegeX:
[02:45] <SiegeX> ya
[02:45] <nullboy> nice
[02:45] <nullboy> that did it
[02:45] <nullboy> static host route
[02:45] <nullboy> ugh
[02:46] <nullboy> ugly but at least it allows me to use 10.0.0.1 for dns securely which means i can still resolve the LAN hosts too
[02:46] <aetheria> i know a lot of you guys like to build stuff from source.  my question is, for what autoconf configure paths do you divert from PREFIX=/usr/local?  for example, i still like to use SYSCONFDIR=/etc.  what about LOCALSTATEDIR?
[02:46] <SiegeX> i still would have liked the SNAT option since it doesnt break stuff when the tunnel goes down
[02:47] <SiegeX> and you can SNAT based on port
[02:47] <Urchlay> aetheria: have a look at http://slackbuilds.org/template.SlackBuild
[02:48] <aetheria> Urchlay: yeah, he's using PREFIX=/usr which I don't think is a good idea
[02:48] <Urchlay> though, they've got --sysconfdir=/etc, some packages would need --sysconfdir=/etc/$PRGNAM
[02:48] <aetheria> Urchlay: true.
[02:48] <Urchlay> eh? PREFIX=/usr is a great idea for installable Slackware-style .tgz packages
[02:48] <Urchlay> where else, /usr/local?
[02:49] <aetheria> Urchlay: is $PRGNAM recognized by autoconf?
[02:49] <Urchlay> aetheria: no
[02:49] <Urchlay> it's defined at the top of that script
[02:49] <aetheria> Urchlay: yes, always /usr/local
[02:49] <nullboy> SiegeX: do you know of a way to push a static *host* route with an interface spec with openvpn?
[02:49] <SiegeX> nullboy: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $VPN_IF -p udp --dport 53 -j DNAT --to-dest 10.0.0.1
[02:49] <SiegeX> hmm
[02:49] <SiegeX> lemme see
[02:50] <nullboy> like push "route 10.0.0.1/24 tun0"
[02:50] <nullboy> i don't know if that is valid
[02:50] <aetheria> Urchlay: i'm thinking there might be good reasons to ignore it for localstatedir though
[02:50] <aetheria> Urchlay: for similar reasons to /etc
[02:50] <Urchlay> aetheria: well, I won't start an argument about it... but i will say: the "standard" way to do things on Slack is to have .tgz packages (the kind you install with installpkg) install with --prefix=/usr, and leave /usr/local for stuff you're compiling without using a slackware package at all
[02:51] <Urchlay> well, /usr/var or /usr/local/var would be gods-awful, yeah
[02:51] <SiegeX> nullboy: ya that is the cleanest way to do it
[02:51] <aetheria> Urchlay: correct.  that is what I am doing.
[02:51] <nullboy> SiegeX: the push thing i typed?
[02:51] <Urchlay> ah, oh, you're not even talking about slack .tgz packages, I'm imagining things :)
[02:51] <aetheria> Urchlay: the only thing i would potentially worry about using /var would be clashing with some other packages.  but i think that would be rare
[02:52] <Urchlay> well, you could use --localstatedir=/var/pkgname (whatever the package name actually is)
[02:52] <Urchlay> if you're really worried about it...
[02:52] <SiegeX> nullboy: well the concept
[02:52] <SiegeX> nullboy: try this
[02:53] <SiegeX> first remove the route you just made
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[02:53] <Rat409> night guys have fun
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[02:53] <Urchlay> there's also the freebsd school of thought, where add-on stuff uses /usr/local/var, /usr/local/etc, and nothing at all outside of /usr/local (makes it easy to blow away all add-on packages without hurting the base system or leaving turds behind)
[02:53] <SiegeX> push "route 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 vpn_gateway"
[02:54] <SiegeX> nullboy: try that ^^^^
[02:54] <aetheria> Urchlay: kk.  what about generic CC flags?
[02:54] <Urchlay> aetheria: generally -O2 and (on x86) -march=i486 -mtune=i686
[02:55] <Urchlay> eh, but most stuff, compiler flags don't make all that much difference
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[02:57] <aetheria> Urchlay: thanks :-)
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[02:58] <Urchlay> especially not worth using all the gentoo-style -funroll-loops -fextra-crystal-meth stuff
[02:58] <nullboy> why the hell is ping leaking too
[02:58] <nullboy> ICMP echo is leaking
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[02:59] <tewmten> edman007: thanks for the tip on PHP_INT_MAX, I clearly see the server with problems is using 32-bit php.. I feel stupid now :p
[03:00] <edman007> :)
[03:00] <tewmten> but it was my boss who installed the server, so he deserves the beatings! mwuhahaa
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[03:01] <edman007> lol
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[03:03] <slakmagik> a man of his word
[03:04] <Urchlay> gaahh, I forgot to get beer
[03:04] <Urchlay> (stores are all closed now)
[03:05] <edman007> i think you can still get beer at 3am...
[03:05] <Urchlay> not in georgia
[03:05] <tewmten> Urchlay: you are a victim of your own slack!
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[03:05] <Urchlay> well, I could maybe drive to fulton county and find a bar that's still open (they don't have to close until 4am), but then I'd have to drive back with beer inside of me
[03:06] <slakmagik> where else would you want it?
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[03:06] <slakmagik> but, no, not driving
[03:06] <Urchlay> I'd want it in the fridge first...
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[03:06] <Urchlay> I don't drive well when sober
[03:06] <edman007> Urchlay, you haven't built a beer retrieving robot yet?
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[03:07] <byteframe> Slackware is a linux distribution.
[03:07] <Urchlay> ehhh, that sounds like hardware to me :)
[03:07] <slakmagik> correct
[03:07] <edman007> the sky is blue
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[03:07] <Urchlay> beer is good
[03:07] <SharkBait> Gah, i still cant find where eterm is looking for libast when compiling
[03:07] <edman007> did you check the cookie jar?
[03:07] <SharkBait> twice
[03:07] <Urchlay> SharkBait: strace the compile?
[03:08] <byteframe> Quarter for the bus.
[03:08] <edman007> SharkBait, what is the error message?
[03:08] <edman007> and prove that you have what its looking for
[03:08] <tewmten> GAAH!@#$^&*
[03:08] <Urchlay> strace -f -e trace=open make 2>strace.out
[03:08] <edman007> BLAGH!!@#*(&
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[03:08] <tewmten> we have to re-install a production webserver
[03:08] <Urchlay> grep libast strace.out
[03:08] <tewmten> erh.. by "we" I mean "my boss"
[03:09] <edman007> Urchlay, thats bad, gcc and such creates very readable errors
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[03:09] <Urchlay> sort of like using a sledgehammer to kill a fly, but it'll get the job done
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[03:09] <Urchlay> edman007: if they're so readable, how come he can't read where it's looking for the lib? :)
[03:09] <tewmten> the answer was hiding in plain sight..
[03:09] <edman007> Urchlay, because he is keeping it a secrete
[03:09] <byteframe> rm -fr /
[03:09] <tewmten> the doofus installed a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit server
[03:09] <edman007> lol
[03:10] <Urchlay> ah, well, if he's keeping secrets from himself, I can't really help...
[03:10] <byteframe> x86_64?
[03:10] <tewmten> hold on I show you the uname -a
[03:10] <tewmten> Linux ws06 2.6.22-14-server #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 03:10:53 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:10] <SharkBait> edman007, That it can find libast, or it is installed in a strange place. I have had this problem before and fixed it with symlinks, but i cant for the life of me remember what i did to find out where it was looking for libast...
[03:10] <tewmten> Linux ws09 2.6.22-14-server #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 03:10:53 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:10] <tewmten> those two are good
[03:10] <tewmten> the bad one is this
[03:10] <tewmten> Linux ws08 2.6.22-14-server #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:34:23 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:11] <edman007> SharkBait, i have not seen any errors from you...
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[03:11] <tewmten> damnit I hate these small things, I been looking at the problem since friday and just never took notice to the kernel..
[03:11] Action: edman007 wonders why its matters for php
[03:11] <edman007> tewmten, you actually have an app in php where 32-bit is not enough?
[03:11] <tewmten> edman007: aparently we do haha
[03:12] <slakmagik> SharkBait: yeah, like edman007, I'm thinking the error messages you get should tell you
[03:12] <slakmagik> or at least tell you where to go looking in the makefiles, etc., to find the problem
[03:12] Action: edman007 would love to see the problematic bit of code
[03:13] <byteframe> use java 64bit servlets
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[03:13] <tewmten> edman007: well I think what caused the problem is that ubuntu started installing 32-bit packages because the kernel was wrong..
[03:13] <tewmten> edman007: that's right, we use ubuntu..
[03:13] <acidchild> tewmten: ezi
[03:13] <acidchild> =]
[03:13] <tewmten> acidchild: holla amigo!
[03:13] <byteframe> What does this have to do with slackware?
[03:13] <acidchild> bong time
[03:13] <acidchild> =]
[03:14] <edman007> tewmten, ahh!
[03:14] <tewmten> byteframe: nothing really
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[03:14] <nullboy> thanks SiegeX
[03:14] <nullboy> looks good now
[03:14] <SiegeX> welcome
[03:14] <edman007> tewmten, the correct answer is "computers"
[03:14] <nullboy> i'm sure there's a good reason for icmp echo request/reply to still leak though
[03:14] <nullboy> i need to think about that
[03:15] <SiegeX> hmm, does it still do that if you provide the ip?
[03:15] <tewmten> Imma go for that smoke now.. =)
[03:15] <nullboy> yeah
[03:15] <byteframe> Any of yall use gsb?
[03:16] <nullboy> SiegeX: everything else seems to be staying inside though
[03:16] <byteframe> Someone tell me a funny story. Cmon.
[03:16] <edman007> no, because it uses slapt-get
[03:16] <byteframe> slapt-get is nice.
[03:16] <SiegeX> that is kinda odd
[03:16] <nullboy> tomorrow i'll have a chance to test it from a remote site though
[03:16] <SiegeX> what is gsb? i thought only vector used slapt-get
[03:16] <byteframe> Better than dropline installer.
[03:16] <SharkBait> edman007, This is all the error output it gives me: http://pastebin.com/m2ec8388c
[03:17] <SiegeX> nullboy: might bring that to #openvpn if you arn't there already
[03:17] <edman007> SharkBait, pastebin the config.log
[03:17] <edman007> and its asking if you want it to install it for you...
[03:18] <SharkBait> edman007, Even if i selected yet, cvs respitory is broken
[03:18] <edman007> heh, well pastebin that log
[03:18] <edman007> or at least the relavant parts
[03:19] <byteframe> SiegeX, gsb has a all or nothing gsb less install option. it does have differant directiories you can read from for testing, current, and stable variations.
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[03:19] <nullboy> SiegeX: very weird. pinging the vpn server leaks the ICMP but ping another host does not
[03:19] <nullboy> SiegeX: i don't think it's a problem though, even pinging internet hosts goes through the vpn. just pinging the vpn server itself leaks...
[03:20] <SiegeX> is that 10.0.0.1?
[03:20] <nullboy> 10.0.0.2
[03:20] <SiegeX> ahh, thats why
[03:20] <nullboy> 10.0.0.1 is the border router
[03:20] <SiegeX> its the same problem
[03:20] <nullboy> SiegeX: i can't ditch that last route to 10.0.0.0 :(
[03:21] <nullboy> no big. my guess is that tomorrow from a remote location, it works properly
[03:21] <nullboy> i'll be on a different subnet then
[03:21] <nullboy> subnet/network
[03:21] <SiegeX> yea, it will
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[03:22] <nullboy> the cool thing is that using the push commands means that if the vpn dies everything just reverts and works unsecured instead of failing
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[03:23] <SiegeX> ya exactly
[03:23] <SharkBait> edman007, Nvm, i fixed it thanks for your help
[03:23] <edman007> lol
[03:23] <edman007> was easy after looking at the logs huh?
[03:24] <SharkBait> edman007, run into another hurdle by the looks of things
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[03:26] <SharkBait> edman007, http://pastebin.com/m414b6f59
[03:27] <edman007> SharkBait, incompatible version of imlib
[03:28] <SharkBait> edman007, Eterm is such a pain in the ass
[03:29] <krux0> SharkBait, you're an aterm guy?/
[03:29] <edman007> lol
[03:29] Action: edman007 uses terminal
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[03:30] <SharkBait> I think i will be soon :p
[03:30] <edman007> and i finally got this modelsim stuff, and they are telling me that the student version is windows only, but the full version is mainly linux and i can't use the linux version except as a trial
[03:30] <krux0> nothing really special about either of them
[03:30] <edman007> why can't anybody release a student version of these linux apps when their producs is mostly linux based?
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[03:56] <DarrenSayHello> Any sucess storys for the linksys pci "N" card, I can not any help pertaining to it ;/
[03:57] <SiegeX> modelsim sounds familiar, is that used with xlinux fpgas?
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[04:03] <kjell> yawn
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[04:10] <slakmagik> I typed in 'irssi epic bitchx' and wikipedia came back with 'Did you mean: irish epic bitch'.
[04:10] <slakmagik> you apologize to the lass!
[04:10] <spook> lol.
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[04:12] <Urchlay> haha
[04:12] <Urchlay> I think I used to date her
[04:12] <Gargantua> It would've been funnier if it was irish spic bitch
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[04:12] <Gargantua> that's more offensive
[04:13] <Urchlay> more offensive, but I think "epic bitch" has a nice ring to it
[04:13] <slakmagik> yeah, me too :)
[04:13] <spook> date her? i 'ardly know her!
[04:13] <spook> oh wait...
[04:13] <Urchlay> and I've known a few epic bitches in my time...
[04:13] <Gargantua> Epic bitches as in bitches that are epic or epic bitches as in women that were epically bitchy?
[04:13] <Urchlay> a bit of both I guess
[04:14] <spook> or are of epic proportions, i.e; large
[04:14] <Urchlay> eh, I've met a few of those too, I guess
[04:14] <Urchlay> but usually they're not noticeably Irish
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[04:24] <SiegeX> or as in girls who play gears of war
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[04:26] <Gargantua> lowl game girls
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[04:27] <Urchlay> hm. I actually do (or did) know a girl who codes perl for a living
[04:27] <Urchlay> however she was hideously bad at it
[04:27] <The-Croupier> greetings
[04:27] <Urchlay> hola
[04:27] <The-Croupier> aloha
[04:27] <The-Croupier> hows it going this fine day
[04:28] <Urchlay> eh, well enough I guess
[04:28] <Urchlay> except I have no beer and the stores are closed  :(
[04:29] <The-Croupier> im at work, i have forgotten my wallet, ive been here since 9am and gonna be here 9.30pm ;)
[04:30] <Urchlay> oh, bummer
[04:30] <The-Croupier> so theres worse my friend
[04:30] <Urchlay> should do like I do, carry cash & drivers license in front pocket, and no wallet
[04:31] <Urchlay> if you have credit cards, leave 'em at home, you get in less trouble that way :)
[04:31] <The-Croupier> i used to do that...but i change trousers at least twice a day
[04:31] <The-Croupier> :(
[04:31] <spook> The-Croupier: you're a doctor right?
[04:32] <The-Croupier> spook, no bro, im a teacher and techie
[04:32] <Urchlay> only nagging doubt I have: what happens when a guy points a gun at me and says "Give me your wallet" and I don't have a wallet...?
[04:32] <spook> oh.
[04:32] <The-Croupier> spook, why whats up
[04:32] <spook> The-Croupier: changing pants twice a day?
[04:32] <spook> Urchlay: turn out your pockets?
[04:32] <Urchlay> spook: yeah, but he goddam ain't getting my driver's license
[04:32] <The-Croupier> ohh that. thats cause we have a dressing code at work. ;)
[04:33] <Urchlay> I'd rather be shot than spend another day standing in line at the DMV
[04:33] <The-Croupier> im only 24 and my students are from 20 to 30 so i have to look like a teacher
[04:33] <spook> The-Croupier: lol.
[04:33] <The-Croupier> no offense to the teachers
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[04:33] <The-Croupier> hmmm, but they look crap
[04:33] <The-Croupier> i keep trousers in my car... and change the minute i get there ;)
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[04:34] <The-Croupier> spook, what do you do for a living?
[04:35] <spook> The-Croupier: student and temp it work
[04:36] <spook> starting to get long term things, where i do about 2-3 hours a week
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[04:36] <The-Croupier> i see ;) i wish i was doing that
[04:36] <The-Croupier> i do like 12h a day and i get paid crap for this...
[04:37] <The-Croupier> i think i should change very VERY soon
[04:37] <spook> i have little to no job security
[04:37] <The-Croupier> what do you mean
[04:37] <spook> verbal contracts, casual work.
[04:37] <The-Croupier> i see. thats not that bad
[04:38] <The-Croupier> at least you get paid properly for those jobs that you do
[04:38] <spook> not so much.
[04:38] <The-Croupier> i have a written contract that is the worst ive ever worked in my life
[04:39] <The-Croupier> the only reason for staying is that i have lots of students that i can help around... ;) i dont care about money so much atm..but things are getting more demanding as you get older
[04:39] <spook> i'm 20
[04:39] <The-Croupier> ;) wonderful ;)
[04:40] <The-Croupier> you got lots to go
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[04:41] <The-Croupier> what do you study if you dont mind
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[04:41] <spook> computer science
[04:41] <The-Croupier> i should have guessed
[04:42] <The-Croupier> where do you study that? ;)
[04:43] <The-Croupier> does anyone know matt fisher?
[04:43] <spook> uwa. university of western australia
[04:43] Action: The-Croupier is hoping hes not the only one that doesnt know him
[04:44] <Gargantua> you guys
[04:44] <Gargantua> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Wain
[04:44] <The-Croupier> i finished in northumbria newcastle
[04:44] <Gargantua> I just read that
[04:44] <Urchlay> who the heck is matt fisher?
[04:44] <Gargantua> No words can describe my emotions
[04:44] <The-Croupier> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5773019873031992689
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[04:45] <The-Croupier> thats where i got matt fisher
[04:45] <Urchlay> Gargantua: louis wain is the guy who invented lolcats?
[04:46] <Gargantua> nah he just drew anthropomorphic cats
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[04:46] <Gargantua> The progression is probably because he was fed up with human nature
[04:47] <The-Croupier> spook how long have you been in this channel?
[04:47] <Urchlay> well now I know what matt fisher looks like, anyway
[04:47] <The-Croupier> lol
[04:47] <Urchlay> but I completely lack the patience to watch the whole thing & find out what he says about SQL injection...
[04:47] <spook> The-Croupier: a looong time now
[04:48] <The-Croupier> lol
[04:48] <The-Croupier> cannot be that long if youre only 20
[04:48] <spook> i honestly dont know
[04:48] <The-Croupier> i dont believe you :p
[04:48] <The-Croupier> lol
[04:48] <Urchlay> eh, he's 20, it's 2008, IRC was invented when he was what, 4?
[04:48] <Urchlay> (I suppose freenode didn't exist that long aho though)
[04:49] <Urchlay> ago
[04:49] <spook> at least 2-3 years
[04:49] <Gargantua> Urchlay, some php/etc sites forget to remove the ability for the user to delimit a field
[04:49] <Gargantua> so the user can insert SQL right through mysql
[04:49] <The-Croupier> you are definately more then 2.. cos when i re-joined you where here already
[04:49] <Urchlay> Gargantua: yeah, I know what SQL injection is
[04:50] <Urchlay> I just don't feel like watching a presentation on it right this minute, that's all
[04:50] <spook> there are literally hundreds of sites i could sql inject, but the point is, why bother?
[04:51] <kjell> Waste of time
[04:51] <Urchlay> well, if you're a black hat, and they've got credit card numbers stored in database tables...
[04:51] <The-Croupier> spook i was just watching it for information ;)
[04:51] <The-Croupier> mr binns ( my tutor)- said is better to know how to do something in both sides ;)
[04:52] <Urchlay> he's right
[04:52] <The-Croupier> i know
[04:52] <spook> Urchlay: i'm not blackhat. i'm whitehat.  i understand how to break alot of things
[04:52] <Urchlay> I think the Jedi are weak, because they don't know the Dark Side :)
[04:52] <Buggaboo> Is it me or is the highlighter in xchat completely fuxxored?
[04:52] <Urchlay> spook: these days I'm not even wearing a hat
[04:53] <spook> Urchlay: never did i say the light side is stronger.  quick, easy the dark side is.  yet never will you be satisified in your lust for power if you take that path
[04:53] <The-Croupier> Urchlay.. so you are money hat
[04:53] <spook> The-Croupier: hes poor-hat
[04:53] <Urchlay> better than being red hat anyway...
[04:53] <The-Croupier> or dirty-head-hat
[04:53] <spook> you spelt red carp wrong
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[04:54] <Urchlay> you spelled red crap wrong :)
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[04:54] <spook> too rude
[04:54] <spook> red hat used to be okay
[04:54] <The-Croupier> spook, since when is crap rude
[04:55] <Urchlay> I always used to typo it as "red hate"
[04:55] <The-Croupier> its something everybody does ;) like hacking,and sql injection, ;)
[04:55] <Urchlay> (not on purpose, my fingers just typed it that way by themselves)
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[04:56] <The-Croupier> never heard of red-hat
[04:57] <Urchlay> eh? Red Hat Enterprise Linux, you never heard of? Luck you!
[04:57] <spook> red hat linux?
[04:57] <kjell> :o
[04:57] <kjell> wow
[04:57] <Urchlay> er, "Lucky" you...
[04:59] <The-Croupier> guys, it was a joke ;)
[04:59] <spook> ...
[05:00] <kjell> Jokes over text-chats tend to not be understood :D
[05:00] <The-Croupier> i know red-hat and dependency stuff too
[05:00] <kjell> Unless you add 40 smileys after ;-)
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[05:00] <spook> what do you think the r in rpm stands for?
[05:01] <Urchlay> "rrrrgh, I hate RPM"
[05:01] <kjell> red hat?
[05:01] <The-Croupier> ready 2privatly masturbates
[05:01] <ktabic> 'ruined'
[05:01] <spook> revolutions
[05:01] <mindbendr> The-Croupier: how's it going
[05:02] <The-Croupier> mindbendr, hiya.. im ok.. yourself
[05:02] <spook> ( per minute )
[05:02] <mindbendr> i'm alright, still in the school business? :D
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[05:02] <The-Croupier> spook didnt think of that ;) good one
[05:02] <spook> thats how i troll redhat based distros
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[05:02] <Urchlay> rocket-propelled missile?
[05:02] <spook> fedora, suse, redhat etc
[05:02] <The-Croupier> mindbendr, yep
[05:02] <mindbendr> redhat is ace
[05:02] Action: spook shakes fist at suse
[05:02] <spook> bastard child
[05:02] Action: The-Croupier never used any of them more than 2months
[05:02] <kjell> thumbs: Was it you I was supposed to ping today? If that's the case, ping!
[05:03] Action: The-Croupier used slackware since 9.1 on the other hand
[05:03] <spook> i used it since 10.1
[05:03] <mindbendr> I've used it since 3.0
[05:03] <mindbendr> redhat is still ace.
[05:03] <spook> mindbendr: floppies, ouch
[05:03] <The-Croupier> spook. i had a huge break in between till 11
[05:03] <Urchlay> you counting an ace as a 1 or an 11?
[05:03] <kjell> I created slackware. Oh wait, no. :-(
[05:04] <The-Croupier> i used the first one that was 8cd ;) i think i dont remember
[05:04] <mindbendr> Urchlay: i don't count
[05:04] <The-Croupier> brb
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[05:05] <Urchlay> mindbendr: bet I beat you at blackjack then...
[05:06] <mindbendr> Urchlay: I've never played
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[05:07] <Urchlay> never mind, my attempt at a joke has fallen flat...
[05:07] <mindbendr> Urchlay: sorry I didn't mean to turn you down
[05:08] <Urchlay> eh, well, if it's not funny then it's not funny, hardly your fault...
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[05:12] <The-Croupier> Urchlay there were no funny faces in the end ;)
[05:12] <The-Croupier> thats what someone said before :)
[05:13] <Urchlay> *<;P>))
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[05:13] <Urchlay> (obviously, a guy wearing a clown hat, winking, sticking out his tongue, with a goatee and double chins)
[05:14] <Urchlay> think I'm gonna go smoke a (___(________(*)~~~~
[05:15] <Zordrak> Has anyone *read* "Daemon"?
[05:15] <Zordrak> Good reviews and then a thorough pounding in the /. comments
[05:15] <spook> he self published
[05:16] <spook> you only self publish if a) it sucks b) its too much of a risk for a publisher
[05:16] <Zordrak> i dont like the reasoning that it must suck because businessmen didnt like it
[05:17] <spook> publishers dont stay in business by publishing shit books
[05:17] <Buggaboo> Urchlay, is that an erect schlong? Have fun.
[05:18] <Zordrak> spook: sure.. but since when did fiction publishers give a shit about the smaller demographics
[05:18] <Zordrak> it's a moot point anyway.. unless you've read it
[05:19] <spook> i'm making a judgement based on what i know, which is not much
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[05:19] <Zordrak> hence:
[05:19] <Zordrak> Has anyone *read* "Daemon"?
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[05:21] <Urchlay> Buggaboo: eh, it's obviously a cigarette. If you looked at that and saw a schlong, that's you having a mental Freudian slip (you're seeing what you want to see...)
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[05:23] <Urchlay> Jim Morrison's book of poetry was self-published, and a lot of people really like it
[05:23] <Urchlay> (I think it's shit, but...)
[05:23] <spook> his second book would most likely get published
[05:25] <The-Croupier> Zordrak deamon by who?
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[05:25] <Zordrak> Daniel Suarez
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[05:28] <The-Croupier> this one looks nice too : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y59wS0GydAg
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[05:36] <The-Croupier> guys, havent been in the slackware.com site for a long time..but why did the logo changed back?
[05:36] <The-Croupier> changed/change
[05:37] <spook> it was a joke
[05:37] <The-Croupier> spook why do you say that
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[05:37] <The-Croupier> i remember lots of people liked it
[05:37] <spook> ...
[05:38] <kjell> How did it look like?
[05:38] <mindbendr> it was crap
[05:38] <The-Croupier> hmmm, i see some didnt like it
[05:39] <spook> it was made so it was the same, upside down
[05:39] <kjell> Is the sites uglyness a choise to keep the ones looking for something cool and graphical away?
[05:39] <spook> ...
[05:40] <slava_dp> the site is great
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[05:40] <kjell> It's coded in tables, don't have a doctype etc :-(
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[05:40] <slava_dp> the new/old rotating logo was plain crap, i agree.
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[05:41] <kjell> Ah, I've seen that one! Didn't like it at all I'm affraid :-(
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[05:43] <slava_dp> kjell, those who might be using slackware usually find slack by themselves. they don't get attracted by fancy website graphics.
[05:43] <slava_dp> might as well be plain html as for me :)
[05:44] <spook> i suppose i should recode the website in xhtml/css
[05:44] <kjell> Yeah, I didn't say the site was a bad thing. Although, I don't like tables and so on.
[05:45] <slava_dp> spook, don't bother
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[05:46] <spook> slava_dp: why not?
[05:46] <slava_dp> spook, it looks great as it is. i love the design :)
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[05:47] <spook> slava_dp: and my intention would be to keep it like that
[05:48] <slava_dp> spook, fine then :)
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[05:49] <The-Croupier> spook, did you create the slackware.com website?
[05:49] <spook> no
[05:50] <mohaa> The-Croupier, whut ?
[05:50] <kjell> :D
[05:51] <spook> pretty sure pat made it
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[05:52] <The-Croupier> i thought he had something to do with the coding of the slackware.com
[05:52] <The-Croupier> maybe he helped in the code ;)
[05:52] <spook> nope
[05:52] <The-Croupier> spook, i got it the first time ;) lol
[05:52] <spook> if i gave that impression, i apologise
[05:53] <The-Croupier> spook. no worries...;)
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[06:01] <The-Croupier> Digital Hazard 1.0
[06:01] <The-Croupier> has anyone played that?
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[06:23] <dtanner> fonts on a lot of websites are so small , i need new glasses maybe yes , but stiill why the damn smallest fint you can get on websites? yes i know ctrl-[+/-] in the browser but why, just why miniscule fonts i ask !
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[06:24] <SharkBait> Your getting old
[06:25] <SharkBait> ;)
[06:25] <dtanner> i have been old , but no, even before i needed glasses the damn  sites make the fonts so hard to read , drives me crazy
[06:25] <Karu> i have the same problem. Fonts too small
[06:25] <dtanner> Karu: ty, tell me about it
[06:26] <Karu> gettin gold too. Wear my first glasses
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[06:27] <dtanner> so , while a coupe of you are active here now , "what music/multimedia manager" do you al luse ? ie:rhythmbox/gnomad  ie: i need an ap that can work with my mp3player in "mtp mode"
[06:27] <SharkBait> mplayer, xmms
[06:27] <Karu> some sites have somhow hardcoded small fonts. They have smaller fonts that i have set minimum. That makes me crazy
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[06:27] <dtanner> SharkBait: one that aslso has the ability to transfer files to my mp3player in mtp mode though
[06:28] <dtanner> Karu: yes it is annoying and i am going crazy too
[06:28] <SharkBait> dtanner: Sorry, didnt read it properly, its getting late
[06:28] <dtanner> mp SharkBait
[06:28] <dtanner> np* even
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[06:30] Action: dtanner browses through http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/ 's thousands of apps in this category to see which ones support mtp mode mp3player support
[06:30] <dtanner> i just woke up ... must brew a pot of coffeee
[06:30] <acidchild> dtanner: i've not slept yet, but yes good call =)
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[06:31] <dtanner> =0
[06:34] <acidchild> been working on my website all night.
[06:34] <acidchild> hehe
[06:35] <dtanner> what type of site html/xhtml etc etc ?
[06:35] Action: dtanner goes to make coffee
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[06:36] <duryodhan> damn .. isn't there a common id for schools in the USA ?
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[06:36] <duryodhan> school # or something!
[06:37] <acidchild> dtanner: HTML i guess
[06:37] <dtanner> duryodhan: common id ? i don't understand
[06:37] <acidchild> dtanner: a referance number for schools in the USA.
[06:38] <duryodhan> yeah .. I am creating a db and getting pissed off
[06:38] <duryodhan> :D
[06:38] <dtanner> oh i see , no we are not that organized in the area
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[06:39] Action: dtanner wants to smash rhythmbox for giving errors on 'make'
[06:39] <acidchild> sounds like the kind of application that would be a bitch to compile.
[06:39] <acidchild> =)
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[06:40] Action: dtanner also smashes "gnomad2" for eating cpu when running ( and I like the interface on gnoamd2 )
[06:40] <SharkBait> What torrent client does everyone use?
[06:40] <dtanner> amarok will have to do until i find a gtk based multimedia manager with mtp support
[06:40] <Urchlay> dunno bout everyone, I like transmission
[06:41] <Urchlay> ktorrent seems to be popular with the crowd in here too
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[06:41] <dtanner> SharkBait: for nice gui many features pointy and clicky -> Frostwire/Limewire
[06:42] <Urchlay> hm, limewire's a torrent client now?
[06:42] <SharkBait> Has been for along while
[06:43] <dtanner> SharkBait: personally i like transmission and bittorrent-curses that ships with bittorent itself ( these two are very lite weight and simple, bittorrent-curses works well with firefox integration for "default application for torrent files"
[06:43] <Urchlay> last time I used it, it was gnutella... but that's been a good long while
[06:43] <dtanner> ah , i remember that one from a long time ago... -> gnutella that is
[06:43] <SharkBait> dtanner: Ok cheers, i was looking for something leight weight, ill check out both
[06:44] <dtanner> SharkBait: install bittorrent inslackwares extras/ and you will have bittorent-curses
[06:44] <duryodhan> SharkBait: bittornado .. also in extras
[06:44] <Urchlay> gnutella is (or at least was) good if you're trolling for random music files
[06:44] <duryodhan> SharkBait: it is surpisingly good ... for downloading 1-2 files .. if you are a serious user then don't use it
[06:45] <Urchlay> tell it to download all hits, then search for an artist... come back 2-3 days later and you have a good chunk of their catalog
[06:45] <dtanner> transmission is the one i use th most , no htrills or frills , but it has pause/stop/start button adn it is real clean and lightweight
[06:45] <Urchlay> (plus false matches of course)
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[06:46] <Urchlay> transmission would be about perfect if only it had a "stop seeding when I reach X ratio" fature
[06:46] <SharkBait> Yeah, transmission looks promising, having trouble getting onto there homepage though
[06:47] <Urchlay> (and yeah, I know, the Mac version of transmission does have that... but it's done in the UI layer, not the core engine)
[06:48] <dtanner> SharkBait: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Communications/Filesharing/Transmission-4856.shtml
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[06:48] <SharkBait> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Communications/Filesharing/Transmission-4856.shtml
[06:49] <SharkBait> whoops, thanks mate
[06:49] <dtanner> np
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[06:51] <dtanner> SharkBait: I just noticed that site points to 1.42 , i have 1.50. if you like i could send you the tar ball real quick for 1.50. let me know i willl start the file transfer to you
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[06:54] <SharkBait> dtanner: Ok, go for it
[06:54] <dtanner> get it =)
[06:54] <dtanner> 05:55 DCC SEND request sent to SharkBait: transmission-1.50b1.tar.bz2
[06:55] <Teratogen> ack no it's a virus!
[06:56] <dtanner> SharkBait: says "stalled" on this end , did you /dcc get the file ?
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[06:57] <SharkBait> dtanner: Didnt get a request for the file transfer, nvm anyway mate already finnished compiling 1.42, ill just give it a whirl see if its to my liking
[06:58] <dtanner> ok np , it was probably in your server window
[06:58] <dtanner> deoending in which irc client you are using
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[06:58] <dtanner> depending* even
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[07:05] <SharkBait> Goodnight everyone
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[07:33] <slackytude> greetings
[07:33] <dtanner> hello
[07:34] <slava_dp> hey
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[07:34] <slackytude> shitty weather, nobody from my learn group here, coffee tastes bad and I overslept
[07:34] <slackytude> this is not going to be a good day
[07:34] <acidchild> haha.
[07:35] <acidchild> slackytude: http://video.7a69.co.uk/
[07:35] <acidchild> my new site :D
[07:36] <slackytude> acidchild, heh, nice
[07:36] <Lufbery_jaa> Where are you located? The weathers is crappy here too.
[07:36] <Pig_Pen> heh, Robot Chicken is cool, it is about the only thing that makes Adult Swim worth watching
[07:36] <slackytude> Lufbery_jaa, germany
[07:36] <acidchild> slackytude: hehe :)
[07:36] <acidchild> does it load okey for you?
[07:36] <mac-> i have Postfix problem :/
[07:36] <mac-> http://pastebin.com/m715d07de
[07:36] <slava_dp> acidchild, yeah, it runs :)
[07:37] <Lufbery_jaa> slackytude, I'm in Pennsylvania, USA. We've got cold and snow.
[07:37] <acidchild> the port is locked to 5mbit at the moment
[07:37] <acidchild> i'm going to bring it up to 15mbit and mirror on to a 100mbit box
[07:37] <slackytude> acidchild, yeah, works alrite
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[07:37] <slackytude> Lufbery_jaa, no snow. just freezing in the night and now it rains
[07:37] <acidchild> slackytude: tomorrows film is HD ;)
[07:37] <acidchild> rather cool
[07:37] <Pig_Pen> we have ice storms in oklahoma, thats where it rains and the rain freezes on to everything leaving a thick coating of ice on everything
[07:38] <slackytude> Pig_Pen, we had that last week. lots of crashes on the autobahn
[07:38] <Lufbery_jaa> Pig_Pen, and then the trees and power lines fall down, right?
[07:38] <slackytude> acidchild, heh, you got a funny comment on your site
[07:38] <Pig_Pen> breaks trees, and powerlines, ice storms can make quite a mess
[07:38] <slackytude> however I enjoy yer site very much i only believe you as a person suck
[07:38] <Pig_Pen> yup
[07:38] <acidchild> slackytude: yeah an old room mate ;p
[07:39] <slackytude> acidchild, heh
[07:39] <acidchild> slackytude: psot something!
[07:39] <acidchild> email comments@7a69.co.uk
[07:39] <acidchild> i've never coded php until tonight haha
[07:39] <The-Croupier> sounds good ;)
[07:40] <slackytude> php isnt too hard if you did some coding before
[07:40] <slackytude> very C-like
[07:40] <acidchild> no its not hard at all.
[07:40] <acidchild> =)
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[07:40] <The-Croupier> ill link it to my site as well. im changing the design of it tonight ;) so ill link your site too ;) if you dont mind
[07:40] <slackytude> yesterday was nice, sunshine all day long with +5 C
[07:40] <slackytude> so it sucks with the weather today. Its depressing to have grey skies again after a nice sunny one
[07:41] <acidchild> The-Croupier: let me see your site first =)
[07:41] <acidchild> and let me get mine up to speed before making it too public as its going invite only at some stage.
[07:42] <The-Croupier> acidchild: this is the old version before tonight www.ksandro.info
[07:42] <mako-don1> ooohh.. this is a first for me. gkrellm crashed :P
[07:42] <slackytude> anyway, I guess I have to learn stuff now. monday next week is operating system exam
[07:42] <slackytude> then databanks, then java gui stuff, and then math
[07:42] <acidchild> slackytude: meth exams? :P
[07:43] <slackytude> Ive got like 7 days to learn math
[07:43] <slackytude> yeah :(
[07:43] <acidchild> oh math :-P *chuckles*
[07:43] <pingpongpat> what topics in math?
[07:43] <The-Croupier> maths is maths...everytopic seems just maths
[07:43] <slackytude> statistics, analysis , stochacstics (sp?)
[07:43] <pingpongpat> hehe
[07:43] <pingpongpat> the side i'm not good at :p
[07:43] <slackytude> I think you call analysis calculus
[07:44] <pingpongpat> oh
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[07:44] <slackytude> anyway, whining about it doesnt help
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[07:52] <e01> hello
[07:52] <e01> i use this https://svn.blender.org/svnroot/bf-blender/trunk/blender/extern/x264/encoder/eval.c
[07:53] <e01> for calculating math expressions, but met a segfaul when i give to  x264_eval an char expression
[07:53] <e01> is somebody know that is fixed this problem
[07:53] <e01> or just know how to fix it
[07:54] <straterra> I'd ask in the blender channel
[07:56] <e01> oh.. sorry my mistake, i thinked that it`s active :)
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[08:03] Action: slava_dp is wgetting kde 4.1.96 from -current. will have a go at it tonight.
[08:05] <clavius> 4.2 is being released today
[08:05] <slava_dp> 4.2 will be released today.
[08:05] <slava_dp> :-D
[08:06] <slava_dp> thinkin the same
[08:07] <kjell> http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce_4.2-beta1/desktop.png
[08:07] <slava_dp> i've got a 1Mb unlimited adsl now, so no problem to redownload when 4.2  makes it into -current.
[08:07] <kjell> looks a bit like vista
[08:08] <slava_dp> it does, in fact. esp. the windows on the taskbar.
[08:08] <kjell> Yeah. Unsure if I like it or not, hehe.
[08:09] <slava_dp> well i do. it looks better than 4.1.
[08:09] <kjell> Unsure if I like 4.1 aswell, haha :-D
[08:10] <slava_dp> interesting, did they retain the mac-like scrollbars as were in 4.1? :-) i like em
[08:11] <alienBOB> I have the full set of 4.2.0 packages already built and working. Pat should be building them for -current while he sleeps, so I would expect them to appear in the ChangeLog today
[08:11] Nick change: AlexElliott_ -> AlexElliott
[08:11] <slava_dp> alienBOB, wow ;-)
[08:13] <alienBOB> Now the big question for today will be... will kde 4.2.0 come out of /testing and replace 3.x ? I truely have no idea
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[08:14] <Khratos> Good morning
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[08:16] <slava_dp> alienBOB, as for me, kde 4 branch is completely unsutable for work (as is vista, as far as i've seen). I use kde4 at home for leisure, i.e. web-surfing, movies and music.
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[08:17] <slava_dp> for work i use xfce. kde3 is not really for anything imo :-)
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[08:17] <thrice`> alienBOB: I think they'll go to kde/ :)
[08:18] <thrice`> since kde 4.3 might be out before slackware 13 anyway
[08:18] <thrice`> i'm just curious if he will move all of the extra libs over to l/, or leave them separate
[08:18] <Urchlay> hm. 13... that is not a small number
[08:18] <k_wolf> hi guys
[08:23] <snorks> rofl
[08:24] <snorks> apparently "now listening to" feature of kopete will show what movie you were watching in kaffeine
[08:24] <snorks> so... take it easy
[08:24] <snorks> for fucks sake.
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[08:25] <thrice`> huh?
[08:25] <slava_dp> hehe suppose pidgin doesn't do that
[08:26] <snorks> you dont want to tell the world Now playing:men_on_men_and_hairy_girls.avi
[08:26] Action: slava_dp has to go. see you later.
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[08:28] <kjell> snorks: haha geez :D
[08:28] <kjell> snorks: Wouldn't be fun :D
[08:29] <alienBOB> thrice`: the stuff in kde4/deps will go to "l" and "n" probably when kde4 gets merged into the main tree of slackware-current
[08:29] <kjell> Have my mom on MSN. Would be a killer.
[08:29] <snorks> kjell: lols
[08:29] <kjell> And my grandma :D
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[08:35] <vinnie_> anyone here use amarok to convert ogg to mp3?
[08:38] <acidchild> ffmpeg would be much better way of doing it.
[08:38] <vinnie_> ty
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[08:51] <duryodhan> vinnie_: mplayer and lame
[08:52] <duryodhan> vinnie_: use mplayer to output to .wav file .. and lame to convert .. cheap and quick imho
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[08:52] <duryodhan> cheap in the time taken sense .... quality is good :)
[08:52] <vinnie_> ok.... ty
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[08:55] <Urchlay> can you not just pipe oggdec | lame with appropriate options?
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[08:56] <thrice`> google ogg to mp3 will present a few options :)
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[08:57] <Urchlay> so long as they don't involve pointing a microphone at your speakers...
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[09:00] <The-Croupier> what a sweet sound
[09:00] <The-Croupier> or scratching the black-board with your nails
[09:01] <Pig_Pen> there is perl audio converter http://pacpl.sourceforge.net/
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[09:04] <Urchlay> hey, good idea, convert your audio to a perl script, see what it does when you run it :)
[09:04] <Dominian> straterra: ping
[09:05] <kjell> Urchlay: Plays it in the PC speeker :D
[09:05] <Urchlay> ugh, I remember actually going to all the trouble to patch a 2.2 kernel to play audio through the PC speaker
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[09:06] <Urchlay> it actually worked, but I found out modern motherboards have seriously lame speakers (had to just about use an ear trumpet to hear it)
[09:06] <Urchlay> (er, well, "modern" when 2.2 was current, I suppose they're just as bad now though)
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[09:07] <alisonken1home> what motherboard speaker? :)
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[09:07] <spook> motherboards have speakers onboard nowadays
[09:08] <fred> unfortunately.
[09:08] <Urchlay> yeah. The frigging beep
[09:09] <alisonken1home> it's a piezo sound device last I checked, not a real speaker
[09:09] <Urchlay> used to be an external speaker, you might actually get some sound out of it (think DOS gaming days before everybody had a soundblaster)
[09:09] <Urchlay> alisonken1home: that may explain why it was almost inaudible
[09:10] <Urchlay> it could beep pretty well at a single frequency, but feeding it music was a waste
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[09:14] <The-Croupier> hmmm, how can one find a password of a rar encrypted file... i dont know with what the file is encrypted.. and dont have the password...could someone point me somewhere? what shall i be looking for? (win/lin) dont mind
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[09:14] <kjell> There are bruteforcers for .rar-files. Although if the password is long and strong it will be difficult to break it.
[09:15] <spook> just a matter of time
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[09:16] <kjell> Yeah
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[09:16] <ananke> next time, be sure to ask your warez provider for the password
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[09:17] <duryodhan> "just a matter of time"
[09:17] <fuzzbawl_> juarez?
[09:17] <The-Croupier> ananke, funny thing is he said its bad word
[09:17] <duryodhan> rofl
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[09:17] <straterra> I'm brute forcing a zip file atm..I forgot the password. I made the file like 10 years ago and found it on old media..I'm curious as to whats in it o.O
[09:17] <Urchlay> it's probably one of those "sign up to get spammed" things
[09:17] <The-Croupier> but wasnt that :(
[09:17] <spook> straterra: britney spears "nudes"
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[09:17] <fuzzbawl_> straterra: usually in cases like that for me it's pics of old g/f's :D
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[09:18] <The-Croupier> ill send you the link ;) if you want ;)
[09:18] <straterra> fuzzbawl_: that is what I'm hoping :P
[09:18] <straterra> kinda
[09:18] <Urchlay> I actually do know a guy who pronounces "warez" like "juarez", not as a joke or anything (he really thinks that's how you say it)
[09:18] <straterra> It wasn't 10 years ago..like 3..but still
[09:19] <Dominian> straterra: do me a favor and test your mailing list
[09:19] <Dominian> straterra: make sure its working
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[09:19] <straterra> It's not
[09:19] <Dominian> straterra: ?
[09:19] <straterra> I haven't added the DNS yet
[09:19] <Pig_Pen> Juarez is a city in mexico just across the Rio Grande from El Paso Texas
[09:19] <Dominian> oh
[09:19] <Dominian> straterra: I thought maybe I broke it hehe
[09:20] <straterra> Mostly because..I don't remember what to put in DNS
[09:20] <The-Croupier> i know a guy who pronounces linux as lainux
[09:20] <The-Croupier> and he is a techie
[09:20] <Dominian> A record for lists.projectstfu.com
[09:20] <straterra> to where?
[09:20] <Dominian> and MX record for lists.projectstfu.com that points to mail.slackadelic.com
[09:20] <Dominian> A record points to my ip for slackadelic.com
[09:20] <straterra> ok
[09:22] <Urchlay> The-Croupier: a lot of people from around here do that, if they see it in print before they ever hear it (the name "Linus" is pronounced that way, "Linux" just looks like you change the s to an x...)
[09:22] <Urchlay> ("here" being the southern US)
[09:23] <straterra> Dominian: DNS should be changed now
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[09:24] <straterra> Dominian: I haz lots of DNS requests
[09:24] <Dominian> straterra: ?
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[09:24] <Dominian> straterra: You mean the ./IN/Ns crap?
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[09:24] <straterra> Jan 27 09:24:37 irc named[4521]: client 64.125.25.18#30039: query (cache) 'ripe.net/ANY/IN' denied
[09:24] <Dominian> ah
[09:25] <Dominian> yeah because you allowed recursion for a long time
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[09:25] <Dominian> people probably started using you as their DNS server :)
[09:25] <straterra> I somehow...doubt that o.O
[09:25] <Dominian> never doubt it
[09:25] <Dominian> the logs don't like ;)
[09:25] <Dominian> er.. lie
[09:25] <straterra> It's that ONE ip..trying that ONE lookup
[09:25] <straterra> like a hundred times a second
[09:26] <nille_> http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.ogg
[09:27] <Dominian> straterra: iptables -I INPUT -s 64.125.25.18 -j DROP
[09:27] Action: Dominian shrugs
[09:28] <spook> even better, -j MIRROR
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[09:28] <Dominian> spook: that's bad mmmkay
[09:28] <Urchlay> nille_: yeah, but everybody isn't born already having heard that, you know...
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[09:30] <straterra> No INPUT chain..sweet
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[09:31] <fuzzbawl> mmmbien
[09:31] <Dominian> straterra: ok no worries
[09:31] <straterra> Dominian: with the list?
[09:31] <Dominian> straterra: iptables -A INPUT -s <ip> -j DROP
[09:31] <Dominian> straterra: huh?
[09:31] <straterra> lol..nm
[09:31] <Dominian> what list.. what are you talking about?
[09:31] <Dominian> stop that!
[09:31] <Dominian> confusing me
[09:32] <straterra> that doesnt work either
[09:32] <straterra> err, it does now..weird
[09:32] <The-Croupier> have to be twice sometimes ;)
[09:32] <straterra> command went in..still having requests o.O
[09:33] <Zordrak> Iam SO fscking sick of people fefusing to migrate from Outlookx because Thunderbird wont sync mith a bloody Palm
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[09:33] <straterra> Outlook isn't all that bad
[09:33] <The-Croupier> Zordrak, people are like monkey see monkey do.. if a friend said that they want the same
[09:34] <ruben23> hi
[09:34] <straterra> Hi.
[09:34] <Zordrak> The-Croupier: except that 95% are now on TB
[09:34] <spook> Zordrak: google calendar can sync from blackberry
[09:34] <The-Croupier> Zordrak TB?!
[09:35] <Pig_Pen> the Magic 8 ball says "Outlook no so good" :D
[09:35] <Zordrak> spook: and my ass syncs with a toilet... doesnt help thunderbird sync with Palm
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[09:35] <The-spiki> straterra: you might want to insert that rule instead of appending it
[09:36] <Dominian> I here-by award the Noobfarm Quote of the Day to......
[09:36] <Dominian> rworkman!
[09:36] <Dominian> http://noobfarm.org/?id=1403
[09:36] <The-spiki> straterra: you probably have policy ACCEPT for INPUT and maybe some rule to explicitly allow DNS lookups so the appended rule doesn't work (the last command from Dominian)
[09:37] <straterra> prolly
[09:37] <Dominian> doh you have the default policy to accept
[09:37] <Dominian> bad straterra :P
[09:37] <Dominian> I thought fo rsure you had it sent to DENY
[09:37] <Dominian> eh oh well
[09:37] <alisonken1home> and here I thought it was going to be the part about syncing with a toilet :)
[09:37] <straterra> I use shorewall..it is set to deny
[09:37] <Dominian> ok
[09:37] <straterra> but it do explicetly allow DNS o.O
[09:37] <Dominian> well the -I INPUT should've inserted that rule above all others
[09:38] <Dominian> make it #1 in the INPUT chain
[09:38] <Dominian> unless its splitting off into sub-chains..
[09:38] <straterra> there are subchains
[09:38] <Dominian> damn shorewall
[09:38] <straterra> not damn
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[09:38] <straterra> it works quite nicely
[09:39] <Dominian> except right now
[09:41] <The-spiki> Dominian: correct, but, his insert rule didn't get trough, and then he checked with append which succeeded in the second try... i was just guessing possible scenario (that he didn't try inserting again)
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[09:42] <rapid> here's johnny
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[09:44] <Dominian> The-spiki: ahh
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[09:57] <straterra> Dominian: looky
[09:57] <straterra> Jan 27 09:56:52 irc named[28176]: dns_rdata_fromtext: pri/projectstfu.com.zone:26: near 'mail.slackadelic.com.': not a valid number
[09:57] <straterra> Jan 27 09:56:52 irc named[28176]: zone projectstfu.com/IN: loading from master file pri/projectstfu.com.zone failed: not a valid number
[09:57] <straterra> the line its talking about is this.. lists                   IN      MX      mail.slackadelic.com.
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[09:58] <hackedhead> oh my goodness i am in love with noscript
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[10:04] <Urchlay> yah, noscript is pretty sweet
[10:04] <Dominian> straterra: You're missing a priority
[10:04] <straterra> oh
[10:04] <Dominian> lists      IN     MX   10 mail.slackadelic.com
[10:04] <Dominian> .
[10:04] <Urchlay> IN MX 10 mail.whatever.
[10:04] <Dominian> don't forget the trailing dot after mail.slackadelic.com
[10:04] <Urchlay> yeah, what he said :)
[10:05] <straterra> ok..all fixed
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[10:22] <nick01> any kde 4.2 packages yet ?
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[10:23] <clavius> ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt
[10:23] <clavius> doesn't look like it
[10:23] <nick01> :( not even unofficial ones ?
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[10:26] <straterra> wasn't 4.2 just released like..today?
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[10:27] <nick01> straterra, yup, yes it was, so what ? another hour or so ? :P
[10:29] <_chess_> geez, give Pat et. al a bit of time.  I am sure they will be made available for -current shortly.
[10:30] <nix_chix0r> MORNING =)
[10:31] <nick01> just nervous I guess cause it took Pat a week to get rc in there :)
[10:31] <nick01> morning
[10:31] <Buggaboo> I read that the god of linux, switched from kde to gnome.
[10:31] <nick01> (or evening over here)
[10:31] <nick01> lol
[10:31] <Buggaboo> I wonder when he'll try xfce.
[10:31] <Buggaboo> no bloat, no hassle, get the job done...
[10:31] <straterra> NEVAR
[10:32] <_chess_> PV switched from KDE to gnome? :p
[10:32] <nix_chix0r> gogo xfce
[10:32] <straterra> Go go power rangers..
[10:32] <nix_chix0r> straterra, knockup any chicks lately?:P
[10:32] <Buggaboo> hu? Not god of slack, god of  linux.
[10:32] <straterra> nix_chix0r: why? Feeling lonely being pregnant? :P
[10:32] <straterra> Maaaaaybe
[10:32] <slackytude> <3 xfce
[10:32] <nix_chix0r> yes:(
[10:32] <_chess_> Buggaboo: yes, I know what you mean.  It was a joke.
[10:32] <straterra> well
[10:33] <straterra> my gf still isn't close
[10:33] <nix_chix0r> knock her up will ya
[10:33] <straterra> yes ma'am
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[10:33] <nix_chix0r> you can have a girl, and our kids will reporduce and we'll have the ultimate race
[10:34] <nix_chix0r> momma needs a good retirement home
[10:34] <straterra> Hmm...sounds like a plan..but my gf wants a boy
[10:34] <dissociative> hi all
[10:34] <Buggaboo> I doubt if a slacker race is something people are waiting for...
[10:34] <straterra> I don't use Slackware o.O
[10:34] <Buggaboo> hm. or a slack-based one? :p
[10:34] <straterra> Gentoo!
[10:34] <Buggaboo> omfg.
[10:35] <fuzzbawl> straterra just sent people into convulsions
[10:35] <_chess_> s/Gentoo/Freespire
[10:35] <nix_chix0r> woo. well i at least still use slack , and zenwalk on other computers
[10:35] <Buggaboo> Well... I must admit @work=sabayon, ubuntu, slackware; @home=slamd64
[10:35] <straterra> nix_chix0r: if my gf gets pregnant..and has a girl..she'll murder me
[10:35] <nix_chix0r> take the baby from her before she gets a chance and we'll have an underground thing
[10:35] <straterra> all of her friends have girls
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[10:36] <nix_chix0r> or we can just trade
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[10:36] <straterra> hmm
[10:36] <straterra> your man is white, right?
[10:37] <dissociative> I have a new fascinating issue expecting to be resolved, this time seems kernel related
[10:37] <nix_chix0r> i like to refer to him as translucent but yea
[10:38] <straterra> gotcha
[10:38] <straterra> I just ask cause..it might be weird if I had an asian baby..and neither me or my gf is asian
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[10:39] <nix_chix0r> yeah i keep worrying the baby will come out black just because we joke about a made up affair with the gas station attendant an old fat black man who would always talk me up
[10:39] <nix_chix0r> a way of punishing me
[10:39] <straterra> heh..it might be
[10:39] <snorks> keep us updated on that
[10:39] <nix_chix0r> come out the delivery room  "hey mom"!!
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[10:40] <mello30> How's every one doing this morning or afternoon or evening(depending on where you are)??
[10:40] <snorks> doing ok:)
[10:41] <nix_chix0r> craigslist has a lot of scammers lately.  he's trying to sell his 1973 martin accoustic for 2500, and this guy goes send it and i will give you a money order.
[10:42] <nix_chix0r> straterra, he needs to get on the ball with selling something to get a downpayment on a new car for me since he totaled mine christmas eve:P
[10:42] <Pig_Pen> the only way i would buy anything from craigslist if someone locally advertised and i could go to their house to look at the item
[10:42] <mello30> Anyone know if there are any slack distros with the latest XFCE 4.6 that got released this week??
[10:42] <straterra> nix_chix0r: err..howd he do that? And..no insurance?
[10:43] <nix_chix0r> straterra, he was pulling into the driveway home from work and a truck smashed into the side of him because that guy was going like 55mph didnt slow down. the insurance is paying off my loan. i still had 3 years left =\
[10:44] <straterra> GAP insurance FTW :P
[10:44] <nix_chix0r> fark yeah
[10:44] <nix_chix0r> paid an extra 3 grand for that i'm glad i did
[10:44] <straterra> No kidding
[10:45] <nix_chix0r> i'm out a car which sucks but i dont owe money so i can start clean.
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[10:45] <straterra> Why not just go get another one?
[10:45] <straterra> the new 370z is the sex
[10:45] <nix_chix0r> i need the sexiest mommy car there is
[10:46] <nix_chix0r> no minivans
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[10:46] <nix_chix0r> nissan altima is nice looking
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[10:48] <mello30> Any gnome users??
[10:48] <Pig_Pen> get a 1957 Chevy Nomad stationwagon
[10:49] <nix_chix0r> o0 station wagons. Pig_Pen  what the hell.. i might as well get a 1976 volkswagon bus
[10:49] <alisonken1home> a friend of mine used to have a nice cherried-out black&white one. nice car
[10:49] <alisonken1home> (Nomad, that is)
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[10:52] <Pig_Pen> those chevy nomad wagons from the 1950's are worth a fortune today
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[10:52] <Pig_Pen> and they look good with mag wheels
[10:53] <mello30> Good thing that gas has come down...Now one can afford to ride them...:)
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[10:54] <mello30> Pigpen, weren't some of those wagons converted over to woodies??
[10:55] <rk4n3> nix_chix0r:  nissan makes awesome cars
[10:55] <The-Croupier> vauxhall makes awsome cars.. german cars forever
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[10:55] <rk4n3> I bet you can't even buy a vauxhall in the US
[10:56] <nix_chix0r> rk4n3, anything is probally better than the ford focus i had setting aside any kia car made which is a given
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[10:56] <rk4n3> nix_chix0r:  haha - probably true
[10:56] <straterra> nix_chix0r: get the 370z :P
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[10:56] <nix_chix0r> i don't have that much monies
[10:57] <nix_chix0r> he's probally gona have 3500 to put down twards my car
[10:57] <nix_chix0r> deppending what he gets back in taxes too i might have like 6grand
[10:57] <nix_chix0r> what ever car i end up getting it's gona be repainted to purple
[10:58] <straterra> purple..
[10:58] <rk4n3> nix_chix0r:  there's probably lots of FUD around them, but I bought a cheap old Hyundai, and I tell ya, the core mechanicals are actually pretty solid - if you can tolerate the cheapness of things like the door handles and seats, a Hyundai might work out for you
[10:59] <nix_chix0r> hyundai are good cars i hear too. i wont go older than an 03-04 though
[10:59] <nix_chix0r> unless i found a 80's toyota camry with like 90thousand miles:p
[10:59] <rk4n3> the one I bought was a '98 - it runs like a charm, even though none of the "extras" work at all
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[11:01] <straterra> I hate Hyundai's..especially older ones
[11:01] <straterra> I was a DSM Eclipse
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[11:01] <alisonken1home> mello30: actually, woodies were separate from the Nomads - but just as cool looking
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[11:01] <rk4n3> yeah, there's not much about them to love - kinda like owning a really ugly dog ... but damn they run good
[11:02] <straterra> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG3PbW6U-6o
[11:02] <straterra> 54psi ftw
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[11:02] <straterra> My Eclipse shares a lot of the same internals..but dayam
[11:05] <rk4n3> I've always been intrigued by the Eclipse - never had one though
[11:05] <nix_chix0r> eclipse that's a silly car:p
[11:06] <rk4n3> silly ?
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[11:06] <straterra> o.O
[11:06] <straterra> there is nothing silly about that Eclipse
[11:06] <nix_chix0r> the one my aunt had loooked retarded all"pimped" out
[11:07] <rk4n3> nix_chix0r:  ah, in a "rice boy" sort of way ?
[11:07] <e01> in wich lib is isfinite function
[11:07] <e01> ?
[11:07] <nix_chix0r> yeah. i havent' seen them any other way rk4n3
[11:07] <straterra> There are some nice eclipses that aren't ricey
[11:07] <rk4n3> heh
[11:07] <straterra> the new 4g's are beautiful..I own one :P
[11:07] <rk4n3> well, I always thought the eclipse looked just fine stock
[11:08] <nix_chix0r> bfs dad is off work for a month cause it's slow in construction. so he's on msn right now drunk talking to me it's hillarious he thinks i'm him." i still love you, you little bastard"
[11:08] <e01> oh sorry, wrong channel :)
[11:08] <fuzzbawl> i prefer my scion tC with it's non-rice/no body kit style
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[11:08] <Neo-Zionist> my firneds!  bad news
[11:08] <jerojasro> e01: man isfinite ?
[11:09] <rk4n3> Neo-Zionist: ?
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[11:09] <straterra> I don't like the tC
[11:09] <Neo-Zionist> just FYI...two studies just found high fructose corn syrup is contaminated with mercury in 50% of samples (and also brand foods)
[11:09] <Neo-Zionist> http://www.iatp.org/iatp/press.cfm?refid=105025
[11:09] <Neo-Zionist> ENJOY YOUR COMA COLA
[11:09] <straterra> Don't care
[11:10] <Neo-Zionist> mercury cuts dendrites in half
[11:10] <straterra> Again..don't care
[11:10] <nix_chix0r> what's with the corn commercials where they are like yeah!!! high fructose is the same as sugar nutritionally even though  it doesn't digest the same way . and you die
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[11:10] <Neo-Zionist> straterra, willfully ignorant!
[11:10] <rk4n3> meh - death is just a slight inconvenience
[11:11] <Neo-Zionist> DDT is good for MEEEeeee
[11:11] <straterra> I..just..don't care
[11:11] <Neo-Zionist> straterra, yeah, thats a sign of depression
[11:11] <straterra> No.
[11:11] <straterra> It's a sign of not giving a fuck.
[11:11] <Neo-Zionist> you are one dumb mother fucker
[11:11] <nix_chix0r> he likes his high fructose corn syrup and msg
[11:11] <Neo-Zionist> mercury has done you in
[11:11] <nix_chix0r> " i've got more mercury than a thermometer"
[11:12] <straterra> Way too many other ways to die and too much to do in life than to sit around and worry about zomgeverything
[11:12] <rk4n3> Neo-Zionist:  did  you know that studies have shown that taking studies to seriously damages your health ?
[11:12] <rk4n3> s/to/too
[11:12] <Neo-Zionist> rk4n3, or improves it
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[11:12] <Neo-Zionist> if you avoid nasty chems
[11:12] <snorks> rk4n3: i dont need to read studies to understand/feel that
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[11:13] <Neo-Zionist> straterra, its not that hard to take the info and avoid HFCS isntead of shunning it
[11:13] <Neo-Zionist> tell your friends and family maybe they dont want mercury
[11:13] <Neo-Zionist> help someone, you worthless slug
[11:13] <Wolven> And all this relates to Slackware how?
[11:13] <straterra> It doesn't.
[11:13] <Neo-Zionist> Wolven, because you guys drink your coke while doing slackware
[11:13] <straterra> Neo-Zionist: If they care enough, they will have found out through zealots like you already
[11:13] <Neo-Zionist> and you need braincells to do slackware
[11:14] <straterra> you don't "do" slackware
[11:14] <Neo-Zionist> straterra, dated jan 26...
[11:14] <straterra> I "do" my girlfriend..not an operating system
[11:14] <Neo-Zionist> i do slackware
[11:14] <rk4n3> in soviet russia, Slackware does YOU
[11:14] <nix_chix0r> :o
[11:14] <nix_chix0r> i'm starting to like this soviet russia
[11:14] <nix_chix0r> does so much
[11:14] <rk4n3> lol
[11:15] <snorks> Neo-Zionist: you remind me of a friend :p
[11:15] <Neo-Zionist> nix_chix0r, http://24.126.181.37/O/political-pictures-vladimir-putin-r.jpg
[11:16] <straterra> Neo-Zionist: http://tinyurl.com/yjm842
[11:16] <nix_chix0r> oh boy! he can assasinate me anytime
[11:16] <Neo-Zionist> straterra, if i'm an idiot.....humanity is dooooooomed
[11:17] <straterra> Only if you procreate
[11:17] <Neo-Zionist> last i checked...i have a very high iq and a masters degree and no debt and a 6 pack abs...yet i still get fat slugs like you talkin...not worth my time, ignored
[11:17] <straterra> QUICK! CASTRATE YOURSELF!
[11:17] <straterra> High IQ != Not being an idiot
[11:17] <Neo-Zionist>  /ignore *!*@*projectstfu* all
[11:17] <nix_chix0r> lawl
[11:17] <straterra> ZOMG! PUBLICALLY STATING YOU'RE IGNORING!
[11:17] <Neo-Zionist> farewell crypto-troll
[11:17] <straterra> SO COOLZ!
[11:17] <straterra> That' so 1995
[11:18] <straterra> that's^
[11:18] <nix_chix0r> Neo-Zionist, i want to be a crypto-troll
[11:18] <Dominian> straterra: Only pictures can prove that type of truth.
[11:18] <Neo-Zionist> then take the moral high ground and make ad-hominem remarks and other such dickeries
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[11:18] <straterra> Dominian: indeed
[11:19] <straterra> I'm jus glad he had flash installed
[11:19] <straterra> just^
[11:19] <Dominian> heh
[11:20] <gnubien> pompous bombastic blowhards are about :)
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[11:23] <Neo-Zionist> Wolven, did you have a slackware question...or were you just being a topic-cop
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[11:23] <Dominian> straterra: wonder where this guy came from
[11:23] <straterra> idiotville
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[11:23] <straterra> Must be the father or brother of cpunches
[11:24] <Dominian> hah
[11:24] <Wolven> Trying to find someone to troll Neo-Zionist ? You've got the wrong guy
[11:24] <Neo-Zionist> no, im trying to help people
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[11:24] <straterra> Then help people by eating a bullet o.O
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[11:24] <Wolven> Join the red cross then
[11:24] <straterra> I'm sure your 6-pack will go admired by modern science
[11:24] <Neo-Zionist> yeah..so israel can shoot at me
[11:24] <straterra> s/g//
[11:24] <straterra> err, go
[11:24] <Neo-Zionist> maybe peace corp
[11:24] <wahcordian> does anybody know why gxine is so dang sluggish? has it always seemed broken and crashy?
[11:24] <BP{k}> I heard the Salvation army was looking for people as well.
[11:24] <hotohori17> hi all :)
[11:25] <Dominian> Neo-Zionist: For someone with such a High IQ.. some of your comments make no sense what so ever.
[11:25] <Neo-Zionist> Dominian, for example?
[11:25] <Dominian> 11:24 < Neo-Zionist> yeah..so israel can shoot at me
[11:25] <Neo-Zionist> please elaborate
[11:25] <Neo-Zionist> ok one sec for press release
[11:25] <Dominian> How does the Red Cross = Israel?
[11:25] <straterra> <?php If ( $ShoeSize == IQ) { echo "You do not have a high IQ. You are an idiot."; } ?>
[11:26] <Dominian> I'm still trying to fathom how you made that connection.
[11:26] <Neo-Zionist> the red cross said last week that israel was shooting at their rescue teams
[11:26] <dive> he's talking about Israel firing on UN and red cross in Gaza
[11:26] <Dominian> So?
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[11:26] <dive> for a Zionist that shoulodn't worry you
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[11:26] <Neo-Zionist> so it was a snide remark
[11:26] <Neo-Zionist> dive, hehe
[11:26] <Dominian> They knew what they were getting themselves into.
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[11:27] <Neo-Zionist> dive, some people eh?
[11:27] <dive> I mean Israel don't care *who* they shoot at, so a good reason *not* to be a Zionist
[11:27] <Neo-Zionist> im not a zionist...i just like exposing zionism
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[11:27] <dive> that's your hobby is it?
[11:27] <Neo-Zionist> im a researcher
[11:28] <Alan_Hicks> Hell I'd like to shoot at the UN myself.
[11:28] <Dominian> Anything like Neo-Sadist?
[11:28] <dive> found many Zionists in #slackware yet?
[11:28] <Neo-Zionist> want me to pm my private site?
[11:28] <gnubien> Neo-Zionist: you are a 2 bit troll
[11:28] <Neo-Zionist> gnubien, your opinion
[11:28] <straterra> He's not even 2 bit
[11:28] <Dominian> Don't care anything about your site Neo-Zionist
[11:29] <dive> Neo-Zionist, no I do not want you to pm me - you seem to be having the mistaken belief that I am on your side here or something...
[11:29] <Neo-Zionist> Dominian, wasnt talking to the douchebags in the room
[11:29] <Dominian> considering this is #slackware and I doubt your site has anything to do with Slackware.
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[11:29] <Dominian> Neo-Zionist: Good come back, too bad you're only making an ass of yourself
[11:29] Action: Dominian shrugs
[11:29] <Neo-Zionist> dive, you seemed to be aware of some of the realities...just offering information
[11:29] <Neo-Zionist> im just trying to help, you gays can attack me all you want
[11:29] <Neo-Zionist> *guys
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[11:30] <straterra> Sweet. Permission to call him an idiot.
[11:30] <rworkman> Neo-Zionist: you're really pushing the envelope here lately with off-topic and semi-inciteful stuff.
[11:30] <wahcordian> speaking of slackware...
[11:30] <Neo-Zionist> Dominian, it runs on slackware :]
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[11:30] <wahcordian> How do people here feel about gxine?
[11:30] <Dominian> Neo-Zionist: Your generalizations of people in the room are quite annoying.
[11:30] <Neo-Zionist> Dominian, then ignore me
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[11:31] <rworkman> and it would be nice if others wouldn't provoke it.  It's much easier for an op to justify a ban if only the instigator is participating.
[11:31] <wahcordian> Is there anything I can do to keep it from taking over my browser when I go to sites that have embedded videos? It takes longer than it should and I'd rather have a different embedded player...
[11:31] <straterra> Sorry robby
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[11:31] <Neo-Zionist> rworkman, ban me?  did you see how many people i helped yesterday
[11:31] <dive> wahcordian, I like the dvd menus in gxine, but I tend to use mplayer more
[11:31] <Neo-Zionist> and how much information i bestowed about slackware/linux
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[11:32] <Neo-Zionist> im sure you are all better than me, but i try to help people and i get shat on
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[11:32] <Wolven> wahcordian, I agree with dive, I feel MPlayer is a better option for a browser plugin
[11:32] <straterra> or vlc
[11:32] <BP{k}> wahcordian: personally, I don't like gxine that much as it's as you point out slow. I tend to use kaffeine and kaffeine mozilla more. But as others pointed out Mplayer and plugins is a good call as well
[11:32] <Neo-Zionist> wahcordian, yes, remove the gxine plugin
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[11:32] <Wolven> I also prefer xine-ui over gxine
[11:32] <Dominian> rworkman: done.
[11:32] <wahcordian> dive, even xine is great, but gxine just seems to be really slow and before I went to slack 12.2 it would freeze when I tried to resize the video pane.
[11:32] <rworkman> Neo-Zionist: no, I didn't see, and it doesn't matter.  Thanks for helping.  However, doing some good does not negate bad.
[11:32] <Neo-Zionist> wahcordian, do about:plugins, get the name of the plugin, and delete it from /usr/share/mozilla or such
[11:32] <dive> wahcordian, have a look for mplayer-plugin
[11:33] <Neo-Zionist> rworkman, people can ignore me instead of attacking me
[11:33] <Neo-Zionist> i do no bad, people are just uptight
[11:33] <wahcordian> thanks I'll do that and look into the mplayer-plugin
[11:33] <BP{k}> wahcordian: see SlackBuilds.org
[11:33] <Neo-Zionist> wahcordian, vlc has a plugin too
[11:33] <rworkman> Neo-Zionist: I agree.  I made that clear.   And no, it's not just that "people are uptight" - you're annoying sometimes, and as I said, some of the comments are borderline inciteful.  That coupled with your nickname makes the reception a bit predictable.
[11:34] <rworkman> Neo-Zionist: ultimately, I'm trying to give some friendly advice to keep you here if that's what you wish.  The can end as well or as badly as you make it.
[11:34] <alisonken1home> just a bit?
[11:35] <wahcordian> I use seamonkey about:plugins gives me a list but I can't change anything. maybe /etc/mozilla/plugins?
[11:35] <thrice`> no
[11:36] <Neo-Zionist> no, get the gxine_?.so lib name
[11:36] <Neo-Zionist> then locate the file and delete it
[11:36] <wahcordian> k
[11:36] <thrice`> um, no
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[11:36] <wahcordian> lol and it turns out there is no /etc/mozilla :P
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[11:36] <straterra> FAIL
[11:36] <Neo-Zionist> hehe, we knew that
[11:37] <Neo-Zionist> there is a ~/.mozilla however
[11:37] <thrice`> deleting libs is a bad idea
[11:37] <alisonken1home> try looking at /usr/share/[mozilla|firefox|seamonke]/plugins directory for plugins
[11:37] <Neo-Zionist> thrice`, not in this case
[11:37] <thrice`> yes, it is, as it will break gxine
[11:37] <Neo-Zionist> sigh*
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[11:37] <thrice`> and that's not the goal.  so much for your help
[11:37] <alisonken1home> the you can also look at ~/.[mozilla|firefox|seamonkey] for more plugins
[11:37] <Neo-Zionist> thrice`, you are ignorant
[11:37] <wahcordian> removepkg gxine
[11:37] <wahcordian> howbout that?
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[11:38] <thrice`> if you don't use gxine, removing it is much better
[11:38] <Dominian> thrice`: isn't the default location for all "mozilla" related plugins /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins now?
[11:38] <Neo-Zionist> wahcordian, that works, unless its copied to ~/.mozilla as alisonken1home said
[11:38] <wahcordian> thrice`, I'm trying to avoid it all together :)
[11:38] <BP{k}> Dominian: yes it is.
[11:38] <Dominian> I think that's true even for the Mozilla suite itself
[11:38] <Dominian> BP{k}: that's what I thought
[11:38] <wahcordian> I removed it and then typed slocate gxine
[11:38] <Neo-Zionist> thrice`, anyway, deleting the mozilla plugin DOES NOT BREAK GXINE/XINE...thanks
[11:38] <wahcordian> bash-3.1# slocate gxine
[11:38] <wahcordian> /home/wahcordian/.config/gxine
[11:38] <wahcordian> :)
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[11:39] <Dominian> wahcordian: slocate only works if the DB is updated.. as root: updatedb ;P
[11:39] <Neo-Zionist> wahcordian, restart seamonky and do about:plugins and make sure its gone
[11:39] <thrice`> *sigh*.  so much for your advise saving us all, Neo-Zionist
[11:39] <alisonken1home> Dominian: at least on my slack12.1 setup, /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins do not  always get added to firefox as useable, so seamonkey may be the same way
[11:39] <BP{k}> or leave your machine on between four and five am.
[11:39] <Neo-Zionist> otherwise its in ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/plugins or ~/.seamonkey/plugins/
[11:39] <wahcordian> I refreshed about:plugins and searched for gxine no matches :D
[11:39] <Neo-Zionist> thrice`, *double sigh*
[11:40] <Dominian> alisonken1home: yeah on most recent ones.. I believe in 12.2 the default changed.. I could be wrong though.. I've always ran -current
[11:40] <thrice`> "just delete libraries until the app stops functioning"
[11:40] <straterra> thrice`: BRILLIANT!
[11:40] <rk4n3> sorry, I tried that - it didn't work
[11:40] Action: Neo-Zionist real life sighs
[11:41] <straterra> as opposed to IRC sighs
[11:41] <wahcordian> wow slocate updatedb is way faster than slocate -U :)
[11:41] <Dominian> haha
[11:41] <alisonken1home> you can also check for file associations (in firefox at least) by going to preferences->content->file types and see if gzine is asociated in there (or wherever seamonkey does file associations)
[11:41] Action: wahcordian is such a noob
[11:41] <Dominian> wahcordian: nah.. most don't realize it
[11:41] <Neo-Zionist> wahcordian, no...
[11:41] <Dominian> wahcordian: You wanna see a noob?
[11:42] <Dominian> http://noobfarm.org/?id=1403
[11:42] <Dominian> That's a noob right there
[11:42] <Dominian> :)
[11:42] <alisonken1home> nice of rworkman to do that :)
[11:42] <straterra> COMPLETE noob
[11:42] <Dominian> alisonken1home: aye
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[11:42] <Dominian> alisonken1home: he wont my "noobfarm quote of the day" award for that one.
[11:42] <Dominian> s/wont/won
[11:42] <wahcordian> isn't that the guy who runs slackbuilds?
[11:42] <wahcordian> .org
[11:42] <Dominian> That might be the "quote of all time" winner as well
[11:42] <Dominian> wahcordian: one of them
[11:43] <alisonken1home> I noticed - it was right before the toilet sync comment
[11:43] <Dominian> alisonken1home: haha yes
[11:43] <alisonken1home> well, rworkman gets my vote for that one
[11:43] <Dominian> aye
[11:43] <wahcordian> I saw a resume yesterday where under their skill set they listed 'chmod' next to HTML and PHP.
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[11:43] <Dominian> alisonken1home: btw.. I'm working on "web 2.0'ing" the rating links...
[11:44] <Dominian> wahcordian: hahahah.. classic
[11:44] <alisonken1home> web2.0, huh?
[11:44] <dissociative> anyone knows what kind of wake on lan setups the BIOS setup option?
[11:44] <Dominian> alisonken1home: yeah.. using javascript to update the DB aand the count without redirecting the client away from the page
[11:44] <Neo-Zionist> my noobmove was dd if=/home/dos-floppy.img of=/dev/hda
[11:44] <alisonken1home> ah - ala google mail
[11:44] <Dominian> alisonken1home: google mail does that?
[11:44] <Dominian> alisonken1home: heh.. figures
[11:44] <Neo-Zionist> luckily such things can be fixed if you backup the partition table output (fstab -l)
[11:44] <straterra> err
[11:45] <Neo-Zionist> and recreate partitions with same cyls
[11:45] <alisonken1home> they use a lot of javascript to keep the page going while doing background syncing of display with email
[11:45] <straterra> that doesn't just nuke the partition table
[11:45] <Dominian> alisonken1home: aye
[11:45] <straterra> that nukes the superblock too
[11:45] <thrice`> hda != a partition
[11:45] <Dominian> alisonken1home: If pagination ever gets done.....
[11:45] <Dominian> alisonken1home: this will make things very very nice for visitors
[11:45] <Neo-Zionist> thrice`, HDA = the entire disk, which the partition table is in the first sectors
[11:45] <alisonken1home> I did a basic setup using java script
[11:45] <alisonken1home> yea - still working on that one :)
[11:45] <Dominian> alisonken1home: I'm using prototype.js for it.. works well just need to finish testing
[11:46] <alisonken1home> have to be careful with the javascript, though, it can have some fun interactions with other stuff (like cpu%)
[11:46] <thrice`> Neo-Zionist: so clearly you know that will not only wipe the partition table, but the entire block ?
[11:46] <Neo-Zionist> thrice`, as big as the floppy image is
[11:47] <alisonken1home> hopefully, I'll be able to add more time to it soon
[11:47] <Neo-Zionist> so might wipe out swap/boot partition too, but it can be fixed if you had the fstab info
[11:47] <Dominian> alisonken1home: its a small update to make it work
[11:47] <Dominian> alisonken1home: I just need to wrap my head around the javascript code needed..
[11:48] <alisonken1home> now if ms _really_ would use w3c staddard i/f calls, that would help a lot :)
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[11:49] <alisonken1home> s/[i/f]/api/
[11:49] <Neo-Zionist> Dominian, have you see jquery or mootools?
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[11:49] <Dominian> Neo-Zionist: Nope.. and don't care to either.. prototype.js does what I need it to do.. and its completely cross-browser compatable
[11:50] <Dominian> damn eithe rmy spelling is wrong or that word just looks wrong to me..
[11:50] <Neo-Zionist> so are the others...jquery > prototype...just so you know for the future
[11:50] <Dominian> Oh and how is that?
[11:50] <alisonken1home> s/compatable/compatible/
[11:50] <Dominian> alisonken1home: that's what I thought
[11:50] <Dominian> damn
[11:50] <alisonken1home> np :)
[11:50] <Neo-Zionist> http://www.reddit.com/search?q=jquery+prototype
[11:51] <Neo-Zionist> everyone is moving to jquery
[11:51] <alisonken1home> I usually had to help the wife with her spelling when she was doing her masters
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[11:51] <Dominian> Neo-Zionist: hrm
[11:51] <Dominian> Neo-Zionist: I wouldn't say everyone is moving to it
[11:52] <Dominian> however, it stats CSS3.. does it still do CSS2 selectors?
[11:52] <Dominian> if not.. don't want it
[11:52] <Neo-Zionist> Dominian, not sure, just fyi for future
[11:52] Action: Dominian nods
[11:52] <Dominian> Well, I have to admit.. that was useful information Neo-Zionist
[11:52] <Dominian> Thanks.
[11:52] <Neo-Zionist> thanks!
[11:53] <Neo-Zionist> mutual respect is best
[11:53] <Dominian> I'll have to look jquery over...
[11:53] <Dominian> i'm not a javscript guy.. so all of this is a bit "new" to me.. I can read the code, but have to figure out what everything "does'
[11:53] <Neo-Zionist> i think it just extends prototype too :0
[11:54] <alisonken1home> javascript is just another programming language - at least it's not perl :)
[11:54] <Neo-Zionist> im gonna redesign my site in mocha-ui eventually
[11:54] <Dominian> Well from what I can tell the syntax is a bit easier to understand
[11:55] <Neo-Zionist> http://mochaui.com/demo/
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[11:55] <Neo-Zionist> thats all just css and javascript
[11:55] <alisonken1home> ok - off to work
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[11:55] <Dominian> Neo-Zionist: I can't program for  crap really so I use wordpress hehe
[11:56] <Neo-Zionist> i also use wordpress for my old development blog
[11:56] <Neo-Zionist> php is very easy to code in if you need serverside
[11:57] <Neo-Zionist> thanks tot he documentation and code examples people put on php.net (search for functions and get tons of examples)
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[11:58] <Dominian> Neo-Zionist: aye.. well I wrote a good portion of noobfarm.org
[11:58] <Dominian> with the help of mwalling, edman007, dadexter_laptop, and fred
[11:58] <Dominian> each of them did their own thing, but most of what you "see" is mine... most of theire stuff is on the back end.. edman007 wrote the search function for noobfarm.org
[11:59] <Neo-Zionist> thats cool, did anyone check it for XSS and injections?
[11:59] <Dominian> I think so.
[11:59] <Dominian> not sure though
[11:59] <Dominian> if you want to.. go for it
[12:00] <Neo-Zionist> are the quotes added automatically or are they moderated?
[12:00] <rk4n3> Neo-Zionist:  I don't think its fair to say "everyone  is moving to jquery" ... jdbc is still leaner, and actually underlies jquery, so there will always be scenarios where jdbc is either well-advised, easier, or both
[12:01] <Neo-Zionist> jdbc?  java != javascript?  i dont know much about it
[12:01] <Neo-Zionist> web 2.0 != java
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[12:01] <straterra> web 2.0 == catch phrase
[12:02] <rk4n3> Neo-Zionist:  thrash much ?
[12:02] <rk4n3> Neo-Zionist:  if you don't know, then why guess ?
[12:02] <Neo-Zionist> enlightenme
[12:02] <rk4n3> I already did
[12:03] Action: Alan_Hicks is going to redesign his website in valid HTML 4.01 Strict.
[12:03] <Neo-Zionist> how is jdbc similar to jquery/prototype.js
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[12:03] <Neo-Zionist> rk4n3, i believe you are the one that is guessing
[12:04] <Alan_Hicks> ......
[12:05] <Alan_Hicks> "i believe you are the one that is guessing" <--- implies you are guessing
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[12:16] Nick change: wahcordian -> wahcordian|Worky
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[12:20] <Aldaron> Which torrent client do you recommend?
[12:20] <Neo-Zionist> transmission
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[12:20] <Aldaron> Neo-Zionist: thanks, that was quick :). Sounds good to me too
[12:21] <Neo-Zionist> its great
[12:21] <elecman> vuze
[12:21] Nick change: elecman -> slack_fan
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[12:22] <Neo-Zionist> azureus is pretty bloated
[12:22] <Neo-Zionist> imooooooo
[12:22] <slack_fan> well, it has many features
[12:22] <chubs> azureus used to be topscore, but i switched to ktorrent
[12:22] <Aldaron> yea, I want something that'll just download torrents and install from a slackbuild :)
[12:22] <Neo-Zionist> http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/network/transmission/
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[12:23] <Aldaron> found already, and installed too ;)
[12:23] <Neo-Zionist> lol
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[12:27] <Cann0n> hey
[12:27] <Neo-Zionist> helo
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[12:30] <Neo-Zionist> nitrous?
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[12:33] <Necos> argh...
[12:33] <Necos> so many of these nxt projects are beyond dead :(
[12:35] <Dominian> hotohori17: please shut off auto-aaway messags.
[12:35] <Neo-Zionist> anyone know of companies that use slackware
[12:35] <Dominian> Neo-Zionist: quite a few actually
[12:36] <Neo-Zionist> redhat = teh lame
[12:36] <Necos> lots of companies use BSD actually... i've heard
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[12:36] <ivo> Bulgarian company Unixsol uses slackware for the servers I think
[12:36] <Dominian> thepiratebay uses slackware/slamd64
[12:36] <Dominian> SevenL networks uses a combination
[12:36] <Dominian> of all linuxes
[12:36] <Neo-Zionist> heh, sends resume to thepiratebay
[12:37] <Dominian> cyberlink international uses slackware
[12:37] <Neo-Zionist> interesting
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[12:38] <BP{k}> The old business unit at ordina nis used slackware on most of their linux boxes, the rest was solaris.
[12:39] <ivo> when there will be kde 4.2 packages for slackware
[12:39] <BP{k}> ivo: when it's ready.
[12:39] <Dominian> ivo: and it won't be in the stable tree either.
[12:39] <ivo> it's ready :D
[12:39] <Dominian> more than likely will be in -current
[12:39] <Neo-Zionist> ivo, official packages? months
[12:40] <Dominian> ivo: no.. when its ready in Slackware.. not when KDE says its ready
[12:40] <Neo-Zionist> my guess
[12:40] <ivo> and KDE 4.2 should be merged in the main tree?
[12:40] <Neo-Zionist> no one likes recompiling kde for slackware when its not 100% ready
[12:40] <thrice`> 4.2 packages should show up in a couple days
[12:41] <thrice`> no months
[12:41] <thrice`> not*
[12:41] <Neo-Zionist> thrice`, source
[12:41] <thrice`> the fact that 4.2rc1 is already in -current, and 4.2 is released today ?
[12:41] <Aldaron> nothing should be included in slackware, unless it's a clear improvement over the current slackware version in all aspects
[12:41] <Neo-Zionist> ah, i didnt know it was incurrent already
[12:41] <BP{k}> ivo: it will be merged, into the main slackware-current tree when Patrick feels it's ready.
[12:42] <Aldaron> might take a while..
[12:42] <ivo> I think they'll wait for 4.2.x (x!=0) or something like this
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[12:42] <Necos> if you're dying to have kde 4 right now, go ahead and compile it =p
[12:42] <ivo> no, I'm just asking :P
[12:42] <Neo-Zionist> woah, the ionizer in my room is making ashes stick to my monitor....i guess the negatively charged ions stick to positively charged particles fast! im bathing in negative ions!
[12:43] <ivo> noone understands that I'm just curious
[12:43] <Aldaron> 2.6 did take a while to get into slack as well, and so did apache 2
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[12:43] <Aldaron> ivo, slackware is the one distribution that doesn't kill cats :D
[12:43] <ivo> KDE 4.x already took a while :D
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[12:43] <Neo-Zionist> ivo, the 4.2rc1 in current will hold you over no doubt
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[12:44] <ivo> I've tested it, and I'm very surprised
[12:44] <Neo-Zionist> just follow the documentation or you could probably run into a mess
[12:44] <ivo> it's incredibly stable
[12:44] <ivo> for 4.x RC
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[12:44] <Neo-Zionist> ivo, RC's should be stable...at least on slackware
[12:45] <ryanrudolf> hi guys . . . just installed slackware 12.2 inside windows vista using vbox . . .
[12:45] <Neo-Zionist> or they wouldnt be in the tree
[12:45] <thrice`> well, 4.2rc1 just works much better than 4.1.x, so it makes sense :)
[12:45] <ivo> remember KDE 4.0 RC?
[12:45] <ryanrudolf> new to linux and learning and i want to start with slackware
[12:45] <Neo-Zionist> ryanrudolf, smart
[12:45] <Neo-Zionist> but new to learning?
[12:46] <ryanrudolf> right now trying to install stuff
[12:46] <Aldaron> well, this is not awesome. Started transmission, and quit it. And it segfaulted ;)
[12:46] <ivo> segfaults suck
[12:46] <ivo> how do you debug them?
[12:46] <ivo> I mean finding a possible reason
[12:46] <ryanrudolf> my first issue was i cant get a network address via the command line
[12:47] <Neo-Zionist> ivo, run the offending app from an xterm or check ctrl + alt + f1 for any messages
[12:47] <ryanrudolf> i used the KDE tools to find my way to get a valid ip
[12:47] <Neo-Zionist> ivo, for starters...or try strace
[12:47] <Aldaron> ivo, well, I only really debug them if I get segfaults in my own code. Usually I fumbled with a pointer or something like that
[12:47] <ivo> it just says "Segmentation fault"
[12:47] <Neo-Zionist> ryanrudolf, wifi? or just ethernet?
[12:47] <fred> ivo: gdb
[12:47] <ivo> Aldaron: for debuging segfaults in my code, I just use printf's in every operation to detect where exactly dies
[12:47] <fred> gdb program-name
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[12:48] <fred> then type 'run', wait for it to segfault, then type 'bt' for it to tell you what the program was doing.
[12:48] <Aldaron> ivo: yea, me too. Although I use couts :D
[12:48] <ivo> printf is faster
[12:48] <Neo-Zionist> i think everyone does that
[12:48] <Aldaron> fred: that sounds very useful, if I ever actually learn it :)
[12:48] <DarrenSayHello> Any sucess storys for the linksys pci "N" card, I can not any help pertaining to it ;/
[12:49] <fred> ivo: no, it's not :p
[12:49] <fred> well, depends on the issue
[12:49] <fred> normally not with segfaults IME
[12:49] <fred> printf says what data you've got; a debugger lets you find that out too, but a backtrace helps you work out what led to the data getting in that state
[12:49] <Neo-Zionist> DarrenSayHello, does dmesg show any module loaded?  dmesg|grep wlan or so
[12:50] <Neo-Zionist> or lsmod perhaps
[12:50] <ivo> fred: but if debug info is stripped out?
[12:50] <ivo> I have to recompile the thing :D
[12:51] <ivo> I'm not sure what exactly is that debug info about
[12:51] <DarrenSayHello> Neo-Zionist, nothing for wlan
[12:51] <Neo-Zionist> DarrenSayHello, and ifconfig -a doesnt mention?
[12:51] <DarrenSayHello> no
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[12:52] <Neo-Zionist> DarrenSayHello, do lspci and search for the vendor /manufcature code on google +linux
[12:52] <Neo-Zionist> see what module/kernel if any people are using
[12:52] <DarrenSayHello> ive tried, cant find anything for n
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[12:52] <DarrenSayHello> ive found alot for G
[12:53] <Neo-Zionist> DarrenSayHello, might be too new...what chipset?
[12:53] <DarrenSayHello> To be honest, Im not sure
[12:53] <Neo-Zionist> wmp300n ?
[12:54] <DarrenSayHello> Yes
[12:54] <nullboy> did you do lspci yet?
[12:54] <nullboy> ...
[12:55] <Neo-Zionist> DarrenSayHello, http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3277  ?  ndiswrapper needed
[12:55] <DarrenSayHello> -bash: lspci: command not found
[12:55] <Neo-Zionist> DarrenSayHello, /sbin/lspci
[12:55] <thrice`>  /sbin/lspci
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[12:56] <DarrenSayHello> heh thanks
[12:56] <DarrenSayHello> and yea, nothing
[12:56] <Neo-Zionist> right its usb heh
[12:56] <dariodee> hi all
[12:56] <nullboy> lsusb
[12:56] <dariodee> just a silly question...
[12:56] <DarrenSayHello> No, my card is PCI
[12:56] <Neo-Zionist> i didntk now lsusb hah
[12:57] <Neo-Zionist> awesomeness
[12:57] <dariodee> what's 'better' between
[12:57] <nullboy> DarrenSayHello: pastebin lspci output
[12:57] <dariodee> remove pkg after a full install
[12:57] <DarrenSayHello> ok
[12:57] <dariodee> or do a selective install?
[12:57] <Neo-Zionist> dariodee, choice #1
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[12:57] <nullboy> dariodee: whatever
[12:58] <dariodee> no matter if i , say, koffice after a full install?
[12:58] <Neo-Zionist> 20 minute install vs 30 minute install....i'd rather remove at my will
[12:58] <nullboy> be decisive with your own install. pick a way to go and do it
[12:59] <DarrenSayHello> http://pastebin.com/m569299ce
[12:59] <dariodee> i just wonder if i could damage s'thing with post removal
[12:59] <fred> ivo: you have to recompile the thing to use printf :p
[12:59] <nullboy> dariodee: it's all packaged software, there is no difference between installing it during install or later other then certain packages are deps for others.
[12:59] <Neo-Zionist> 00:10.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43XG (rev 01)
[12:59] <DarrenSayHello> that is linksys?
[12:59] <Neo-Zionist> yar
[13:00] <dariodee> well, thanks you all - now i'm leaving arch definitely
[13:01] <nullboy> dariodee: for the record, we don't care what distribution you use ultimately
[13:01] <AbortRetryFail> We just like slackware. :)
[13:01] <Neo-Zionist> DarrenSayHello, wl_apsta.o
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[13:02] <DarrenSayHello> thanks
[13:02] <Neo-Zionist> DarrenSayHello, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[13:03] <Neo-Zionist> #bcm-users
[13:03] <nullboy> have fun with that card
[13:03] <Neo-Zionist> DarrenSayHello, its gonna take a few hours / days to figure it all out :/
[13:04] <nullboy> or never
[13:04] <Neo-Zionist> wireless in linux is no ones forte  heh
[13:05] <DarrenSayHello> Ill get it
[13:05] <nullboy> no it works just fine, the problem is shitty cards
[13:05] <DarrenSayHello> thanks guys
[13:05] <nullboy> my intel, atheros, and rtl8187 cards all work great under many circumstances
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[13:07] <ivo> fred: that will be funny :D but I'm talking about debuging symbols
[13:08] <Neo-Zionist> ok so when you get taxed on your tax refund from another state you arent working in....do you get another refund indefinately or can i just not file and let them keep the money heh
[13:10] <Necos> argh
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[13:15] <Dominian> thrice`: you lose connection to slackadelic?
[13:15] <thrice`> mm, nope
[13:16] <Dominian> alright than it was something on my side
[13:16] <Dominian> weird
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[13:19] <nullboy> those idiots at charter finally have a reverse lookup working on my node
[13:19] <nullboy> took them 3 years
[13:19] <nullboy> ...
[13:20] <Necos> woohoo
[13:21] <nullboy> i called them once and explain all the issues i could see with wireshark on their network; the dns lookups, the time server fail, the random RST packets that came from no where
[13:22] <Neo-Zionist> they ignore people that know more than them
[13:22] <nullboy> apparently they still use elves running back and fourth between nodes in tubes instead of copper
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[13:25] <Necos> lol
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[13:30] <nullboy> slackwhorian
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[13:32] <dive> slackwavian
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[13:33] <Old_Fogie> :)
[13:33] <dive> o/
[13:34] <nullboy> welp got a job today!
[13:34] <nullboy> back later
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[13:37] <nille_> saw that kde4.2 is released  http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/index.php
[13:37] <Dominian> yeah.. we know...
[13:38] <Necos> which means that people will bitch about compiling it for the next 3 months...
[13:38] <Necos> and asking why isn't in the slackware package tree...
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[13:39] <Necos> and being general bastards about it >.>
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[13:40] <Old_Fogie> re: "why isn't in the slackware package tree..." <--- So true, there's so many "bleeding edge" distro's that do use it, and for the most part, the reviews of that is bad.  Why they'd want a distro like Slackware to invoke beta wares (and I dont mean that nastily about Slack) is beyond me.
[13:41] <jkwood> Why, certain other distros released with KDE 4.2 a week ago!
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[13:41] <Old_Fogie> good, let them have it
[13:41] <Necos> because they're stupid and they think that we use slackware to be blleding edge
[13:41] <Necos> *bleeding
[13:41] <josemanuel> was there a kde 4.2 a week ago?
[13:41] <jkwood> josemanuel: Not really.
[13:41] <Necos> does it matter?
[13:42] <josemanuel> i thought so
[13:42] <jkwood> KDE's biggest problem isn't their developers, nor their end users... it's the doggone trigger-happy packagers!
[13:42] <Old_Fogie> my $0.02 ,it's coming along.. but it's not ready for every day use yet, and I expect that after an entire re-vamp and only 2 releases
[13:42] <alisonken1home> josemanuel: kde4.2 was in rc state last week
[13:43] <jkwood> Old_Fogie: 4.2 is what the KDE devs are willing to say is ready for everyday use, and they've been very conservative on that point in the past.
[13:44] <Necos> and yes, it is the packagers... it's also the fact that people shouldn't be using "beta" products in mainstream package lines
[13:44] <jkwood> *cough* fedora *cough*
[13:45] <Old_Fogie> they can call it ready for every day use, dont matter none to what I feel/see yet. but it's coming along nicely.  I certainly wouldn't ask family to use day in/out yet.
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[13:45] <Necos> i haven't used a DE in years anyway... so it really doesn't matter to me
[13:46] <alienBOB> fedora packagers grab the tarbals before they are official and build/ release just "to be the first" but in the meantime several tarballs for 4.2.0 have been updated at the source without changing their filename ... only the md5sum changes
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[13:46] <Old_Fogie> plus alot of the apps' that are kde aren't full featured on kde 4 as they are in kde3.  LIke krusader in kde4 version is soo lacking features, amarok, digikam too.
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[13:46] <Old_Fogie> I cant wait to see what it's like in kde 4.5 days tho
[13:47] <alisonken1home> the other packages still have to catch up to the new qt and kde4 way
[13:47] <Necos> brb...
[13:47] <Old_Fogie> alienBOB, they do that for security fixes too.  xulrunner they use from CVS and not official xulrunner but call it the next sequential xulrunner number.
[13:47] <Zordrak> ugh -- backporting
[13:47] <jkwood> Old_Fogie: Well, I guess I can see where you're coming from.
[13:47] <Zordrak> its insane and painful
[13:48] <Zordrak> EL4 still uses 2.6.9
[13:48] <Old_Fogie> jkwood, yes I like use many kde apps (tho I'm not a big kde 3.5 fan) , kde 4 seems like nice direction, just no "quite" there yet.  which I'm personally ok with as I believe we should give them time .
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[13:48] <Zordrak> but THEIR 78th *version* of it
[13:49] <jkwood> Well, yeah.  I can forgive 4.0 and 4.1, they were doing their best.
[13:49] <jkwood> I think that as far as their "core" apps, they've reached the state they really need to be in.
[13:49] <jkwood> But, K3B for example is far from usable.
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[13:49] <jkwood> Krusader too, and many others that are more third-party like that.
[13:49] <josemanuel> jkwood, you mean k3b in kde4, right?
[13:50] <jkwood> josemanuel: Yeah, of course.
[13:50] <jkwood> K3B on KDE 3 is the bomb.
[13:50] <Old_Fogie> Yea, KDE devs got a really bad world of shit thrown at them and it wasnt their fault, imo.  The released kde 4 so people can test and play with it.  They didnt strong arm distro's to use it.  But so many distro's put it in as default desktop, and users were like WTF! That was a shame.
[13:50] <jkwood> And really, for a lot of people, K3B is "the killer app".
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[13:51] <Dominian> I love k3b
[13:51] <Dominian> toob ad he's slow porting it to kde4
[13:51] <Old_Fogie> jkwood, I'd buy k3b off the shelf in the store for sure
[13:51] <Old_Fogie> that's my "gauge".. "would I buy it", :)
[13:51] <alisonken1home> now if it was available for that other o/s ......
[13:51] Action: Zordrak has never used N3B
[13:51] <Zordrak> ahem
[13:51] <Zordrak> k3B
[13:51] <Old_Fogie> alisonken1home, if it were I'd buy it yup
[13:52] <nille_> i would also buy k3b in a store
[13:52] <alisonken1home> yep
[13:52] <jkwood> Oh, yeah.  I personally think the world of K3B, but I've done okay with cdrecord and growisofs lately.
[13:52] <straterra> I'd happily pirate k3b o.O
[13:52] <Dominian> jkwood: aye.. if I could learn the command lne.. probably wouldn't bother with GUI
[13:52] <Old_Fogie> Heck, my wife burned a cd using k3b and I didnt show her.
[13:52] <Zordrak> orite... cdrecording
[13:52] <Zordrak> fun
[13:53] <Zordrak> ooohhh mehor winnage!
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[13:54] <Old_Fogie> I tell ya what else I'd buy, "glables" too.  I do a lot of mailing and it's splendid.
[13:54] Action: Zordrak wishes we could lose the K & G prefixes
[13:55] <Old_Fogie> Zordrak, agreed.
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[13:56] Action: Zordrak fires up lvlc and lGIMP on the XP maghine while working in wSkype
[13:57] <jkwood> Technically, vlc should now be qvlc.
[13:57] <rk4n3> really really sad day at my company - huge layoff :(
[13:57] <rob0> k3b, that "bomb", has gone off twice here. This morning it got the load average up to 60, in a fight with hald.
[13:58] Action: Old_Fogie hopes the best for rk4n3 and his family :)
[13:58] <rob0> machine was unusable for about a half hour
[13:58] <rk4n3> ... oh, I'm still fine - just lots of friends leaving
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[13:58] <alisonken1home> yeah, sucks when friends get canned
[13:59] <Zordrak> yeah.. been through it twice since april
[14:00] <rk4n3> definitely - and yet their work still needs to get done
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[14:00] <Zordrak> rk4n3++
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[14:00] <rk4n3> Zordrak: :)
[14:01] <Zordrak> rk4n3: My team of 3 was trimmed to...... Me
[14:01] <rk4n3> Old_Fogie:  thanks for the friendly wishes - I may need them eventually :)
[14:02] <Old_Fogie> rk4n3, that's where my head was on that (as I'm sure it's crossed your mind now and again)
[14:02] <rk4n3> yep
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[14:04] <rk4n3> ... it was an interesting morning - I came in at 8:10 to find a notice about a 9am meetings at the copy center on each floor.  I looked around on my floor and there was hardly anyone around, and I thought "what the heck ?"
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[14:05] <rk4n3> ... then, about 8:40 people started filing in from the 8:30 meetings that I had not been told about, and it was the 9am meeting that the announcement was made, but by then the 8:30 meeting people were already making it fairly obvious what was happening ...
[14:06] <Neo-Zionist> were there boxes by each cubicle
[14:06] <Zordrak> sux
[14:06] <rk4n3> out of about 350 people on my floor, almost 200 got the ax ... I have no idea what the count is across the whole company
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[14:06] <Zordrak> shizzle
[14:06] <Neo-Zionist> cut costs, raise prices, depression deepens
[14:07] <BP{k}> rk4n3: dam :(
[14:07] <rk4n3> the boxes started showing up around 9:15
[14:07] <Neo-Zionist> HHAHAHA
[14:07] <Zordrak> other non-sensical words of knowing awe...
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[14:07] <dive> doesn't look good for anyone right now
[14:07] <Neo-Zionist> dive, you must be a conspiracy theorist ;)
[14:08] <Old_Fogie> rk4n3, woh! that's not a lay-off, that's a hemorrhage.
[14:08] <Neo-Zionist> the economy is strong and getting stronger (bush 2007)
[14:08] <slackytude> rk4n3, that doesnt sound good
[14:08] <rk4n3> Old_Fogie:  no doubt
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[14:08] <slackytude> rk4n3, shouldmake it easier to manage them, tho :P
[14:08] <rk4n3> those of us still employed here are staring up at a mountain of work
[14:08] <Neo-Zionist> im the guy that screamed global economic collapse and global depression in the computer lab 2 years ago
[14:08] Action: jkwood revokes Neo-Zionist's trolling card for the day
[14:09] <Neo-Zionist> jkwood, stfu
[14:09] <Old_Fogie> Neo-Zionist, that's ok, we heard Nancy say it too, we also heard "tweedle dum" say that Fannie and Freddy were strong too :)
[14:09] <jkwood> St. Fu, patron saint of ninjas... and projectstfu.com
[14:09] <straterra> Of course.
[14:09] <Neo-Zionist> jkwood, ignored
[14:09] <straterra> lol
[14:09] <rk4n3> St. Fu - I like that :)
[14:09] <straterra> jkwood: ZOMG YOU GETS IGNOREDZ TOO!
[14:09] <dive> there was a documentary on about the 29 crash last night and many similarities to 2008 by the look of it
[14:09] Action: BP{k} gives rk4n3 the blessings of St. Fu and St. Bar
[14:10] <rk4n3> sweet
[14:10] <jkwood> Oh noes, my heart is borken.
[14:10] <thrice`> \o/
[14:10] <straterra> And he's gonna publically put the command in the channel too!
[14:10] <Necos> what the hell happened?
[14:10] <straterra> FEAR HIS TACTICS
[14:10] Action: jkwood starts up the botnet
[14:10] <straterra> jkwood: You don't have a 6-pack, so you OBVIOUSLY have an inferior IQ
[14:10] <dive> yeah the threat is too much
[14:10] <nix_chix0r> uhoh
[14:10] <rk4n3> well, at least they got rid of most of the off-shoring in the same pass, too
[14:11] <Necos> layoffs rk4n3?
[14:11] <rk4n3> yep
[14:11] <Neo-Zionist> 80% service economy...70% consumer spending economy
[14:11] <jkwood> rk4n3: It's obviously a conspiracy to return to isolationism.
[14:11] <Neo-Zionist> 0% manufacturing...good times ahead!
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[14:11] <rk4n3> jkwood:  heh
[14:12] <Neo-Zionist> weimar here we come
[14:12] <Zordrak> Neo-Zionist: No, seriously.. stfu
[14:12] <Necos> thank you captain obvious
[14:12] <Neo-Zionist> Zordrak, ignored
[14:12] <Zordrak> woo!
[14:12] <Zordrak> I'm #2!
[14:13] Nick change: SlackNeo_ -> SlackNeo
[14:13] <rk4n3> well, I can tell one thing for sure - the sales of caffeine-laden corn syrup beverages are about to rise sharply around here
[14:13] <BP{k}> Zordrak: no no #3
[14:13] <straterra> Zordrak: #3
[14:13] <straterra> I was NUMBER 1
[14:13] <BP{k}> straterra: trumpted
[14:13] <Zordrak> shiz :(
[14:13] <straterra> Shush you
[14:13] <straterra> Don't make me come over there, BP
[14:13] <BP{k}> straterra: igored. ;)
[14:13] <Necos> fail
[14:13] <wahcordian|Worky> has anybody here messed w/ the system V startup scripts to make them run simultaneously / faster?
[14:13] <straterra> FAIL
[14:13] <Neo-Zionist> rk4n3, alcohol sales through the roof
[14:13] <BP{k}> okay, and most obviously I can't  type today. :)
[14:13] <Zordrak> wahcordian|Worky: uber fail
[14:13] <rob0> ##slackware, ignored.
[14:13] <dive> lol
[14:13] <straterra> ZOMGIGNORED
[14:13] <straterra> watch this
[14:14] <alisonken1home> straterra: I noticed you _were_ number one? when did that change?
[14:14] <Neo-Zionist> they are going to have to legalize/decriminalize pot to keep us from rebelling (but they wont)
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[14:14] <Zordrak> Neo-Zionist: ignored
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[14:14] <dive> heh
[14:14] <dive> straterr1, hi
[14:15] <straterra> HAI
[14:15] <straterr1> NetrixTardis: IGNORED! THERE!
[14:15] <straterr1> oops
[14:15] <straterr1> Neo-Zionist: IGNORED
[14:15] <straterr1> How do you like that?
[14:15] <BP{k}> fail!
[14:15] <Zordrak> lol
[14:15] <straterr1> ZOMG LEET IGNORAGE
[14:15] <rk4n3> lol
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[14:15] <dive> haz fail
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[14:16] Action: Zordrak puts away his trusty fail-gun
[14:16] <straterra> I haz fail
[14:16] <Neo-Zionist> ignore the ignorant!
[14:16] Action: jkwood pulls up in the failbus and toots the horn
[14:16] <Zordrak> like a railgun.. but 95% more fail
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[14:16] Action: BP{k} moors the failferry and waits for the fuckupferry to disembark
[14:17] <slackytude> O_o
[14:17] <BP{k}> uhm s/ferry/fairy/
[14:17] <slackytude> The Moon is Waxing Crescent (2% of Full)
[14:17] <BP{k}> The Moon will be Waxing Gibbous (99.999% of Full). (##slackware default Moon setting)
[14:17] <Old_Fogie> O_o <--- It's pidgin!
[14:17] <Neo-Zionist> raise your failsail!
[14:17] <Zordrak> fail
[14:18] <slackytude> eh, must be the after effects of the full moon
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[14:18] <dive> fail moon
[14:18] <fuzzbawl> Old_Fogie: forget your prunes this morning?
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[14:18] <dive> omg.. the mad fools, they really did it
[14:18] Action: slackytude goes back to learning
[14:18] <Old_Fogie> fuzzbawl, ?
[14:18] <BP{k}> Old_Fogie: wouldn't pidgin more be like O_O
[14:18] <fuzzbawl> Old_Fogie: no idea, just go with it
[14:19] <Old_Fogie> BP{k}, no it's a lopsided eye-balls
[14:19] <Old_Fogie> scares the grandkigs
[14:19] <Old_Fogie> *kids
[14:19] <Zordrak> hmmm.. Ubuntu 9 "Failing Ferret"?
[14:19] <jkwood> I don't know what a kig is, but Old_Fogie has some grand ones.
[14:19] <Old_Fogie> so does Wilbur the Gimp
[14:19] <alisonken1home> Zordrak: That's a good start
[14:19] <Old_Fogie> heh, then again Wilbur freaks me out too
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[14:22] <Kenjiro> rworkman hi there
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[14:23] <ejm> anyone gotten a virus in slack, or linux in general, lately?
[14:23] <Dominian> what...
[14:23] <agentc0re> ...
[14:23] <agentc0re> O_o
[14:24] <BP{k}> .-- - ..-.
[14:24] <Dominian> ejm: Please elaborate on why you're asking that question?
[14:24] <ejm> I don't have one, but then again, I don't have clamav or anything setup
[14:24] <Dominian> You don't need clamav
[14:24] <dive> -... .--. { -.- }   .. -. -.. . . -..
[14:24] <Dominian> Linux, in general, does not get viral infections like Windows.
[14:24] <Dominian> ejm: If you're doing amail server.. then yes.. clamav would be nicd
[14:24] <Necos> wow...
[14:24] <ejm> I was on myspace, on the linux geeks group, and there's a bunch of security freak-outed people on there.
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[14:24] <Zordrak> ejm: Did you just *feel* the fail in here and get pulled in by the suction?
[14:25] <rk4n3> clamwin for Windows seems fairly nice
[14:25] <fuzzbawl> ejm, most people on myspace have a median age of 13. I wouldn't pay much attention to those ankle biters
[14:25] <ejm> yeah.
[14:25] <Necos> lol
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[14:25] <Old_Fogie> rk4n3, tho clamwin has no "realtime" scanning...but really now, do any of the AV on windows that claim realtime really work :)
[14:25] <ejm> I've never had one, except using wine on ubuntu one time.
[14:25] <Dominian> ejm: and if they are stating "you can get this virus in Linux too!" they are full of shit
[14:25] <rk4n3> http://rk4n3.daemonx.com/fail/fail12.jpg
[14:25] <Zordrak> fuzzbawl: also the mode AND the mean!
[14:26] <straterra> There are quite a few crossplatform bots
[14:26] <ejm> I looked at the known list of viruses, and most of them were from 6+ years ago
[14:26] <BP{k}> rk4n3: we've all been there ;)
[14:26] <rk4n3> :)
[14:26] <Dominian> ejm: You know how many people "threaten" me with a virus.. and I'm like "sure.. send it my way" they send me a link or email and I just laugh.. "what's this supposed to do?"
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[14:26] <Old_Fogie> you could still download a virus, and if you share your home over lan well / if windows browsed over there something could happen tho
[14:27] <Old_Fogie> to the other box I mean
[14:27] <rk4n3> Old_Fogie:  yeah, and not to mention the performance of attempting that, too ...
[14:27] <ejm> yeah, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one who says that you don't need to worry about viruses, unless you're running a mail server or something like that.
[14:27] <Dominian> Old_Fogie: Then the other box was fail for not having a decent antivirus
[14:27] <rk4n3> s/performance/performance impact
[14:27] <Old_Fogie> rk4n3, I've been using avast! lately for the win box here, pretty good Imust say
[14:27] <Old_Fogie> Dominian, agreed
[14:27] <Dominian> I like avg myself
[14:27] <straterra> ejm: You can still get exploited and become part of a botnet or such
[14:27] <Dominian> yep
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[14:27] <Dominian> and if thta happens.. you are fail for not securing your box properly
[14:27] <Old_Fogie> Dominian, I use that too, tho I'm new to the avast! I'm diggin' it big time.
[14:27] <jkwood> We had a few linodes that were part of an irc botnet the other day.
[14:28] <alisonken1home> nice part is - "exploited != virus"
[14:28] <Dominian> jkwood: Yeah.. linode..
[14:28] <straterra> Dominian: it had nothing to do with it being a linode
[14:28] <straterra> it was roundcube
[14:28] <Dominian> jkwood: and who secured those linodes that got infected?
[14:28] <jkwood> Not me.
[14:28] <Dominian> straterra: I know.. stop jumping to conclusions.
[14:28] <straterra> people running an old version of it that allowed arbitrary PHP execution
[14:28] <straterra> I didn't jump to any conclusions..
[14:28] <Dominian> straterra: be nice if you let me finish the damn sentence
[14:28] <straterra> I was merely explaining.
[14:29] <Dominian> Well people runing roundcube and not keeping up with its development.. are fail.
[14:29] <fuzzbawl> I had this idea once, it was a game with a matt with conclusions on it that you could..jump to
[14:29] <straterra> Yeah..
[14:29] <Neo-Zionist> tar zxvf virii.tgz;cd virii;./configure;make;su -c make install
[14:29] <jkwood> They were running http://packetstormsecurity.nl/irc/kaiten.c
[14:29] <Dominian> fuzzbawl: s/matt/mat
[14:29] <Dominian> fuzzbawl: bastard
[14:29] <ejm> thanks guys. i love going into irc and seeing how wrong the ubuntu fans are
[14:29] <fuzzbawl> s/Dominian/shell script
[14:29] <Zordrak> *sigh*
[14:30] <Dominian> s/fuzzbawl/Dominian
[14:30] <Neo-Zionist> i thought someone was trying to hack me when all those /nonexistenshit showed up in apache log
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[14:30] <straterra> That's because..you are an idiot.
[14:30] <fuzzbawl> Dominian: we call that a "least common denominator"
[14:30] <Neo-Zionist> but it was just roundcube scanning
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[14:30] <Dominian> straterra: You test your mailing list yet?
[14:30] <rk4n3> "least common Dominianator" ?
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[14:31] <fuzzbawl> yes
[14:31] <straterra> No
[14:31] <Dominian> straterra: you should
[14:31] <Dominian> :P
[14:31] <Dominian> need to make sure the changes I made to postfix last night and this morning didn't break it
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[14:31] Nick change: arny -> arny`
[14:31] <Neo-Zionist> hack away
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[14:32] <Dominian> straterra: shouldn't have.. but want to make sure
[14:32] <straterra> k
[14:32] <Dominian> actually I think I'm on that mailing list
[14:32] <straterra> Are you?
[14:33] <Dominian> yeah looks like its working
[14:33] <Dominian> and no I'm not on it
[14:33] <Dominian> but it bounced back properly with "moderator approval"
[14:34] <Zordrak> rk4n3: mogrify -resize 40% specialtyscrew.jpg or get yourself some fibre! :)
[14:34] <rk4n3> lol
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[14:34] <rk4n3> hey, the detail needs to be there to see the grooves
[14:34] <Zordrak> then a serious session with the crop tool is in order
[14:35] <rk4n3> haha - OK, I'll add it to my to-do list ...
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[14:36] <rk4n3> hmm .... hope I remember what that means later
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[14:37] <Zordrak> do you want me to intsall RT for you?
[14:37] <rk4n3> RT ?
[14:38] <Zordrak> http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/
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[14:38] <Zordrak> IMO the *only* foss support ticet tracker
[14:38] <rk4n3> ah - looks cool ... how does it compare to Mantis ?
[14:39] Nick change: obnauticus_ -> obnauticus
[14:39] <Zordrak> mantis is a bug tracker
[14:39] <Zordrak> designed for a diff purpose
[14:39] <Zordrak> rt is designed to (T)rack (R)equests-
[14:40] <rk4n3> hmm... I always assumed bug = issue = request = task = whatever ...
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[14:40] <Zordrak> bug implies broken software
[14:40] <straterra> We use rt at work for bugs
[14:40] <Zordrak> request == any request of a service organisation
[14:41] <straterra> people request a bug be fixed
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[14:41] <rk4n3> right, but "bug" is just a word - isn't it common practice with systems like bugzilla to "forget" the particulars of what "bug" means ?
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[14:41] <Zordrak> We use track (and previously gnats) for bugs
[14:41] <Zordrak> but RT for internal IT support and customer software support
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[14:42] <Zordrak> Each *can* be used for the other purpose but was not designed to
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[14:43] <rk4n3> I guess basically what I mean is that if you went through the software and replaced the word "bug" with "ticket", all the functionality would still make sense and pretty much be the same
[14:43] <Zordrak> well.. not really
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[14:43] <Zordrak> the arch is different
[14:43] <Zordrak> RT keeps tickets in queues
[14:44] <rk4n3> certainly, different software is designed and implemented differently - I just wondered about the "usage model", so to speak...
[14:45] <Zordrak> the differences are subtle enough to allow you to use RT as a bug tracker if you want.... but
[14:45] <rk4n3> ah, so there's a "workflow" element to it ?
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[14:46] <Zordrak> if you start using it for serious bug tracking in a big enterprise environment you find yoursolf hacking the code to get it to do what you want.. not what it was designed for
[14:46] <Zordrak> and the reverse is true using bug trackers for support
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[14:46] <Zordrak> trying to think of a good analogy
[14:47] <Joker_-_> Hey there, anyone can help with that: http://rafb.net/p/TGH6Pg43.html
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[14:47] <fred> Zordrak: looked at jira? (pricey though)
[14:49] <rk4n3> I definitely understand what you're saying, but I'm not convinced that bug tracking and support request tracking are very different, except in cosmetic use of words/terms, and possibly some specific attributes or something similar ... that's why I've always seen them as fairly interchangable - I'm willing to hear what you can come up with, though ...
[14:49] <Zordrak> a plane can do the work of a boat if you add skis... but why go to the trouble of adding the skis instead of just using a boat?
[14:49] <Zordrak> (and cutting the wings -- for this eg)
[14:50] <rk4n3> OK, I definitely see that point - I'm just not convinced bug tracking and support request tracking are as different as boat and plane are
[14:50] <Zordrak> fred: no... if it's not free we dont do it
[14:50] <fred> Zordrak: free/libre or free/gratuit?
[14:51] <Zordrak> libre
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[14:51] <zhorX> sup all
[14:51] <fred> (asking as me and a few friends are considering making an issue tracker, and haven't decided on licensing)
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[14:51] <zhorX> got a software raid 1 install giving me headaches
[14:51] <Zordrak> rk4n3: its about feature creep.... the *basic* functions are the same... but when you want to do advanced things the differences become obvious
[14:51] <jkwood> Use the Dog-on-Fire license.  That one's grown in popularity 300 percent in the last month.
[14:52] <Dominian> fred: GPL3
[14:52] <Dominian> heh
[14:52] <zhorX> seems I can get my initrd right cause it boots fine with the huge kernel
[14:52] <zhorX> little help would be most appreciated
[14:52] <Zordrak> fred: and to that end i have full rights to GPL any work i produce mhile i work here
[14:52] <rk4n3> Zordrak:  OK, I can buy that - can you elaborate on some of the advanced features that would be different in RT vs Mantis ?
[14:52] <Zordrak> good company
[14:53] <Zordrak> rk4n3: easier for me to compare with Trac than Mantis if you know trac
[14:53] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, did you see what smartd says?
[14:53] <rk4n3> Zordrak:  ah, sadly no
[14:53] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: no, sory it didnt hilighted
[14:53] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, its either a bad cable...or the drive is fubar?
[14:53] <rk4n3> Zordrak:  I've only used bugzilla and Mantis
[14:53] <Zordrak> lets assume trac==mantis ftpota
[14:53] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: would make sence...
[14:54] <rk4n3> Zordrak:  OK
[14:54] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, replace the cable or try hooking the drive up through ata if possible
[14:54] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: pisses me off but that's what I was thinking aswell... since the cable is fine (tested 3 cables)
[14:54] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: I tryed that already, sadly
[14:54] <Neo-Zionist> do smartd...maybe it will be clearly dead
[14:54] <Zordrak> wait one
[14:54] Action: Zordrak looks at mantis demo
[14:55] <fred> Zordrak: where do you work?
[14:55] <zhorX> anyone to lend a hand? I'm really in a jam with that slack 12.2 install
[14:55] <zhorX> ...
[14:56] <Zordrak> fred: where/geo or where/org? :)
[14:56] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: I dont know much bout smartd... how should I use it?
[14:56] <Neo-Zionist> zhorX, did you follow the initrd slackware documentation?
[14:56] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: like smartd --help ? :)
[14:56] <zhorX> sure
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[14:56] <zhorX> I've been diggin on google about that for a while
[14:56] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, smartd and the smartctl --hel
[14:56] <fred> Zordrak: org
[14:57] <Zordrak> rk4n3: RT has a "Self Service" login and a "Staff" login
[14:57] <zhorX> My thing boots fine with the huge kernel
[14:57] <zhorX> its my initrd that I cant get right
[14:57] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: thx, will do that... the drive is down right now (i shut it down before going to work) and I'm not home right now... Ill check that later on.
[14:57] <Zordrak> rk4n3: Self service is a "shit i raised" Staff is a "stuff im monitoring or i own"
[14:57] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: if it says the drive is dead, then thats it, nothing more to do? and what if not?
[14:58] <spiki> Zordrak: rt. group/queue - user inheritance model (from group) for preferences...
[14:58] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, wack it with a hammer a few times on the side and try it...maybe you could get your data off, but doubtful
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[14:58] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: yeah, that or the good old "refregerator" trick...
[14:58] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, ya
[14:58] <zhorX> Neo: Heres the last module list I've tried in my initrd
[14:58] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: I once could retrive lots of data by spraying liquid air on a drive...
[14:58] <zhorX> usbhid:ehci-hcd:ohci-hcd:mbcache:jbd:ext3:pata_amd:dm-zero:dm-multipath:dm-snapshot:ide-scsi:raid_class:ext2:ide-generi
[14:59] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: thats an other story... thx anyway
[14:59] <spiki> Zordrak: btw, the new version of rt has really nice web2.0-ish look. look at it. you'd be surprised
[14:59] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, is it hot in your computer case
[14:59] <zhorX> I was sure everything was fine
[14:59] <Zordrak> rk4n3: and tickets tracked by Queue where queue is for one line of support or supported client set
[14:59] <Zordrak> rk4n3: Mantis assumes all people work together with the same kinds of access but diff permissions
[14:59] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: I can't realy touch it as it's in an externa box, with shitload of fans. I woudl say it's not but I can't realy touch it while it runs...
[14:59] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, its slightly possible that it could be the kernel....so you coudl try knoppix
[15:00] <Neo-Zionist> i would try knoppix before abandoning data...but still rma that pos
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[15:00] <Zordrak> spiki: dude.. WRT RT, your talking to a pseudo RT developer
[15:00] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: kernel? what would the kernel have to do with me mooving my case? I mean, it was working fine like 2 days ago and I havent updated anything!
[15:00] <straterra> FAIL
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[15:00] <Neo-Zionist> you moved the case and this happened?
[15:00] <Zordrak> rk4n3: and tickets tracked against versions of code
[15:01] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: the only change that happend is that I have shut down the box to moove it.
[15:01] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: yup
[15:01] <rk4n3> Zordrak:  OK
[15:01] <Neo-Zionist> could be static charge...or you blocked a air output vent
[15:01] <Zordrak> spiki: I aw the author of RT::Authen::ExternalAuth
[15:01] <Neo-Zionist> probably just a bad drive heh
[15:01] <straterra> Any more random guesses?
[15:01] <straterra> it could be..the sky!
[15:02] <straterra> SKYNET!
[15:02] <Zordrak> spiki: s/aw/am/
[15:02] <spiki> Zordrak: i know
[15:02] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: yeah, bad drive is making lots of sence... anyway, smartctl should tell me more about it right?
[15:02] <Neo-Zionist> it should if you know how to read the output
[15:02] <straterra> Only if SMART is throwing stuff
[15:02] <straterra> if SMART is normal..doesn't mean its not bad
[15:02] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: humk, and you are here for a few hours still? :)
[15:02] <Neo-Zionist> no clue
[15:03] <straterra> Hopefully not
[15:03] <spiki> Zordrak: i remembered you from previous discussion (i think it was about jabber... you told me about your work... found you on cpan...)
[15:03] <Neo-Zionist> loveslack baby loveslack
[15:03] <Zordrak> rk4n3: where Mantis is concerned with meeting release milestones, RT is concerned with meeting SLAs
[15:03] <Zordrak> spiki: orite
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[15:03] <Joker_-_> well, I'm not a total noob but I dont pretend to know or understand everything... Ill ask for more help if needed when I'm back home.
[15:04] <Zordrak> just threw me with: 19:59:05 < spiki> Zordrak: btw, the new version of rt has really nice web2.0-ish look. look at it. you'd be surprised :)
[15:04] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: thx for now and hope to see you soon ;) Ill keep you posted if I come back before you leave
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[15:04] <Zordrak> i had to completely overhaul my plugin for 3.8 :)
[15:04] <Neo-Zionist> kk
[15:04] <zhorX> So Neo dont feel like sharing your wisdom today? I'm a little confused since I've got many slack installs on soft raid 1 working at this time
[15:04] <zhorX> hence me asking for help here
[15:05] <Neo-Zionist> zhorX, i wasnt paying attention...got sidetracked
[15:05] <zhorX> ok
[15:05] <zhorX> I just dont want to be pushy
[15:05] <spiki> well, yeah... thought you might have skipped the update as did i untill recently. ignore me...
[15:05] <fred> One of our founders was asked in an interview what he thought of "Web 3.0"
[15:05] <Zordrak> zhorX: Neo-Zionist and Wisdom do not intersect on a Venn diagram
[15:05] <fred> :(
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[15:05] <zhorX> hehe
[15:05] <zhorX> so what info should I give you
[15:05] <jkwood> fred: ignored
[15:05] <zhorX> got everything working fine with the huge kernel
[15:06] <straterra> jkwood: ignored for ignoring fred
[15:06] Action: fred sighs
[15:06] <zhorX> but I want it to be standard like the other and use the generic kernel
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[15:06] <zhorX> other*
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[15:06] <jkwood> Sorry, I just hadn't failed hard enough in the past ten minutes.
[15:06] <zhorX> I've built my initrd with the full command line and also using mkinitrd.conf
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[15:07] <zhorX> no love there
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[15:07] <Neo-Zionist> zhorX, perhaps you need to change the /usr/src/linux symlink and try again
[15:07] <Neo-Zionist> merrrrrr?
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[15:07] <zhorX> symlink is pointing to original slackware installed kernel sources
[15:07] <Zordrak> zhorX: why exactly arent you just adding your hardware to the generic slack ships with and recompiling?
[15:08] <zhorX> as far as I can see its there
[15:08] <Neo-Zionist> so what error do you get anyawy
[15:08] <Neo-Zionist> cant find root device/
[15:08] <zhorX> kernel panic kindof error
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[15:08] <zhorX> lemme reboot the box I'll tell you exactly
[15:08] <rk4n3> Zordrak:  I think I get where you're coming from - you want the software to have accuracy in its presentation, not just roughly-equivalent functionality
[15:08] <Zordrak> zhorX: I put money on it being ext2/3 not being loaded
[15:09] <zhorX> well its in the initrd
[15:09] <Neo-Zionist> zhorX, you did  nano -w /boot/README.initrd   ?
[15:09] <zhorX> usbhid:ehci-hcd:ohci-hcd:mbcache:jbd:ext3:pata_amd:dm-zero:dm-multipath:dm-snapshot:ide-scsi:raid_class:ext2:ide-generic
[15:09] <Neo-Zionist> damn thats a big initrd
[15:09] <zhorX> yeah I've read it, more times than I'd like actually
[15:09] <zhorX> well didnt know what to pu t more
[15:10] <zhorX> usually dont have to screw around that much to make things work
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[15:10] <zhorX> failed to execute /init
[15:10] <zhorX> kernel panic - not syncing: no init found
[15:10] <Zordrak> rk4n3: yeah... and when management suddenly demands a certain type of efficiency report or a change to how you work you can *if* you use a tool designed for what you're doing...  but if not then you might find yourself thrashing around in unfamiliar code trying to force it to bend to your will
[15:10] <zhorX> but the init script is in /boot/initrd-tree
[15:10] <Neo-Zionist> and you put a lilo entry for the new kernel and initrd ?
[15:11] <zhorX> yup
[15:11] <zhorX> re ran lilo -v
[15:11] <Zordrak> rk4n3: Always use the right tool for the job
[15:11] <zhorX> even got special lilo param
[15:11] <zhorX> boot = /dev/md0
[15:11] <zhorX> raid-extra-boot="/dev/hda, /dev/hdb"
[15:11] <Zordrak> and i just came up with a MUCH better analogy
[15:12] <Neo-Zionist> and that extra param worked on huge?
[15:12] <zhorX> works* (present) with huge 2.6.27.7
[15:13] <Zordrak> rk4n3: a flat-head screw driver WILL work on a similar size Phillips screw..... but you dont want to be caught short with it on a screw thats really tight and is starting to have its head stripped
[15:13] <Neo-Zionist> maybe you need to copy the standard .config to /u/s/l and rebuild the kernel then do a new initrd ?
[15:13] <Zordrak> or s/flat head/slightly larger Phillips-head/
[15:13] <zhorX> well
[15:13] <Neo-Zionist> because the depmod is messed up?
[15:14] <zhorX> I usually dont have to rebuild the kernel providing the right modules are in initrd
[15:14] <Zordrak> recite the mantra... the right tool for the right job!
[15:14] <zhorX> I mean the stock slack kernel always did the trick for me except when patches were needed back in the day for lets say ppp MPPE support or bootsplash etc.
[15:15] <Neo-Zionist> maybe the wrong modules are in initrd....or maybe you need to change system.map symlink to the right versino before doing lilo -v?
[15:15] <jkwood> Neo-Zionist: Erm... if you're rebuilding the kernel, why not just BUILD IN THE MODULES YOU NEED?
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[15:15] <slackytude> alrite
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[15:15] <zhorX> System.map hu?
[15:15] <zhorX> lemme check
[15:15] <Neo-Zionist> /boot/system.map, udate the symlink
[15:16] <Zordrak> jkwood: beat you to that by two irssi pages :)
[15:16] <Neo-Zionist> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      32 2008-12-14 12:00 System.map -> System.map-huge-smp-2.6.27.7-smp
[15:16] <zhorX> in fact it is pointing to another kernel
[15:16] <Neo-Zionist> ahah *hopefully*
[15:16] <Zordrak> almost
[15:16] <jkwood> Zordrak: Well, since he's ignoring us, I guess it doesn't matter much.
[15:16] <Neo-Zionist> im just listing any ideas i have...could be wasting your time heh
[15:17] <jkwood> "could be"
[15:17] <zhorX> should I use mkinitrd -c to clear it out
[15:17] <Neo-Zionist> cant hurt?
[15:17] <slackytude> anybody got a link that explains the inode structure a bit? Im trying to figure out the file size if I have 8 data entires, 1 singley inderict pointer and 1 doubly inderict pointer with block size 1024
[15:17] <slackytude> O_o
[15:17] <Zordrak> jkwood: somehow decidied that Neo-Zionist is where it's at for good advice.... glwt
[15:18] <Neo-Zionist> http://www.scribd.com/doc/7202074/Linux-File-Systems
[15:18] <Zordrak> slackytude: if i didnt know you better id bitchslap you for asking me to do your homework :)
[15:18] <Necos> lol
[15:18] <Necos> you should do it anyway
[15:18] <zhorX> Neo I'll tell you whats up in a few
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[15:20] <slackytude> Zordrak, not homework. its a question from a test in 2005. Im looking through old tests, mine is on monday
[15:21] Action: Zordrak apparantly didn't know you better
[15:21] <hotohori17> hi Dominian
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[15:23] <slackytude> Zordrak, hey, Im trying to learn, not doing homework. big difference
[15:24] <slackytude> anyway think I got it
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[15:28] <Necos> hmmm, so i can finally see the battery level on this lego robot...
[15:28] <zhorX> Neo, didnt work
[15:28] <zhorX> I'll re do the whole thing step by step from the official slack docs
[15:29] <Neo-Zionist> good luck...dont see why it wouldnt work the same
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[15:29] <zhorX> pisses me off thought, did it I dont know how many times with prior versions of slack
[15:29] <Necos> eh?
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[15:30] <Zordrak> initrd ftl
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[15:31] <Neo-Zionist> doubt its slackwares fault
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[15:32] <Neo-Zionist> or huge has some moduels you need built in instead of modular
[15:32] <Neo-Zionist> so on standard you are missing something in your initrd
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[15:35] <Pig_Pen> dang ice storm knocked out power for a few hours
[15:36] <Neo-Zionist> better than an emp blast
[15:36] <snorks> haha or a xylon invasion
[15:36] <snorks> or a Zylar invasion
[15:36] <Pig_Pen> that would make paper weights out of all the electronics for miles
[15:36] <Neo-Zionist> my name zeldar...from the planet beldar
[15:37] <Neo-Zionist> Pig_Pen, thats why i put a faraday cage around everything
[15:37] <Neo-Zionist> kinda pointless though
[15:37] <Pig_Pen> maybe get some ferrite bricks and cover the outside of your house with it, and ferrite roof files :D
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[15:38] <rk4n3> ... and I've been just wearing this tinfoil hat this whole time...
[15:39] <rk4n3> pft
[15:39] <Neo-Zionist> Pig_Pen, but everything else is fried...so this little oasis is useless without sat uplink and diesel generators
[15:39] <Pig_Pen> you have any idea how expensive it would be to cover your house in ferrite thick enough to protect against an EMP? possibly hundredreds of thousands of dollars
[15:40] <straterra> Sounds like a plan
[15:40] <Neo-Zionist> cover it with solar panels with copper mesh under them
[15:40] <snorks> cover it with cow carcasses
[15:40] <dive> cover it with tin foil
[15:40] <Pig_Pen> it would be cheaper to just buy new electronics
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[15:40] <snorks> put your house in a Haddaway cage
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[15:41] <Zordrak> oh tossbeans
[15:41] <dive> live in a tin foil igloo
[15:41] <snorks> what is emp? baby just try it
[15:41] <Zordrak> i started on a slackbuild for bacula
[15:41] <Zordrak> im sure i didnt finish it
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[15:41] <rk4n3> Haddaway ?  wasn't he a mid-80's bubblegum/pop lip-sync'er ?
[15:41] <Zordrak> but now i dont know where i am :(
[15:41] <dive> huh?
[15:41] <Neo-Zionist> lol
[15:41] <Neo-Zionist> what is love?
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[15:42] <dive> what's that got to do with it?
[15:42] <rk4n3> baby don't hurt me
[15:42] <snorks> dive: what's love got to do with it?
[15:42] <Neo-Zionist> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsCXZczTQXo
[15:42] <slackytude> break it down! hamertime!
[15:42] <dive> snorks, yah
[15:42] <slackytude> can't touch this
[15:42] Action: dive touches slackytude 
[15:42] <rk4n3> superfreak ftw !
[15:42] <dive> ooeer
[15:42] <snorks> "im making a song with songsmith, dad"
[15:43] <Neo-Zionist> jun jun jun jun jun jun jun jun jun jun jun what is love jun jun jun jun
[15:43] <Zordrak> OMFG .. did you know bacula has a platforms/slackware/rc.foo[123]  ??
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[15:43] Action: dive needs to make a slackbuild for elinks and spidermonkey...
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[15:44] <slack_fan> Does anybody know when the packages for KDE 4.2 will be ready?
[15:44] <dive> there's a definite lack in that direction
[15:44] <Neo-Zionist> slack_fan, nope
[15:44] <agentc0re> Zordrak: ??
[15:44] <slack_fan> okay, but will they be removed from /testing and put in main -current tree?
[15:45] <Neo-Zionist> eventually
[15:45] <slack_fan> thank you, Neo-Zionist!
[15:45] <thrice`> yes, they will, today at 8:40 pm EST
[15:45] <slack_fan> oh, thank you
[15:45] <thrice`> np
[15:45] <Zordrak> for software so widely used and so lacking of an alternative and with actual direct support for slackware i truly cannot believe no-one's made a slackbuild for bacula (current version) before nom
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[15:46] <Zordrak> bob pointed me at one a while ago and i think it,s the one i started modding... but was well out of date
[15:46] Nick change: wamaral -> bani
[15:46] Nick change: bani -> wamaral
[15:47] <dive> Zordrak, I think most people around here use rsync
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[15:47] <dive> but that's no reason not to have a slackbuild for it
[15:47] <dive> more tools = more irons in the fire so to speak
[15:48] <agentc0re> Zordrak: i use bacula at work as well.  the server is slackware 12.1.  I just did the make and make install process.
[15:48] <Alan_Hicks> agentc0re: We'd welcome a bacula SlackBuild script at slackbuilds.org.
[15:48] <Zordrak> Alan_Hicks: ive just about finished the bones of one
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[15:49] <Zordrak> Alan_Hicks: but is so low on the priorities list
[15:49] <slackytude> bacula?
[15:49] <agentc0re> You know i tried to make it a package before i started using it and well.. (it was a while ago) but i seem to remember that it is almost an easier upgrade process to do it that way versus having a package.
[15:50] <alienBOB> thrice`: why do you think KDE 4.2 will move from testing into main tonight? A fairy told you?
[15:50] <Zordrak> slackytude: dont make me beat you with a google link
[15:50] <slackytude> Zordrak, found it already :P
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[15:50] <agentc0re> i suggest a good beating anyways. :P
[15:50] <slackytude> nah
[15:50] <dive> yah
[15:50] <slackytude> nay!
[15:50] <dive> :)
[15:51] <rk4n3> bacula: did't he star in "Quantum Leap" ?
[15:51] <Zordrak> oldfail
[15:51] <Alan_Hicks> agentc0re: postfix is much the same way. An upgrade from source is ridiculously easy if you RTFM.
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[15:51] <rk4n3> Zordrak:  :)
[15:52] <nightf0x09> can anybody provide me a short tutorial how can i upgrade from 12.0 tu  12.2 without reinstalling
[15:52] <Neo-Zionist> UPGRADE.txxt
[15:52] <nightf0x09> k
[15:52] <nightf0x09> thx
[15:52] <dive> nightf0x09, read changesandhints.txt upgrade.txt and changelog
[15:52] <Alan_Hicks> nightf0x09: Step 1) Backup everyting. Step 2) Be prepared for failure. Step 3) Upgrade to 12.1 first.
[15:52] <slackytude> and CHANGES_AND_HINTS.txt
[15:53] <Zordrak> oh my shitting jesus... it doesnt just provide RCs specifically for slack.. it will put thew in place and mod your rc.local too!
[15:53] <nightf0x09> is there any package manager that maybe does this
[15:53] <nightf0x09> slapt-get or i dunno
[15:53] <nightf0x09> ?
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[15:53] <Neo-Zionist> no guarantees
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[15:53] <slackytude> nightf0x09, not really.  some of the steps have tobe done maually
[15:54] <slackytude> it isnt that hard, tho. Its fairly well documented
[15:54] <ruben23> hi
[15:54] <thrice`> alienBOB: sorry, I was just being sarcastic, of course
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[15:54] <thrice`> (since I also told him what time it would be done)
[15:54] <agentc0re> I've been using Bacula for about a year now.  I have a HP mls(msl)5026 autochanger with 2 drives.  I've had a few problems and have had little help about them from the bacula community.  Setting up bacula is a freaking nightmare anyways..  Took me several days to learn how to with all the different config files and ways to write them up(esp. bacula-dir.conf).  I'll probably be upgrading to Zamanda and do the pay version.  It's 
[15:55] <nightf0x09> yes but i'm using backtrack 3..it's slackware based and after i upgraded the kernel wont boot anymore
[15:55] <nightf0x09> after pcmcia loads
[15:55] <slackytude> nightf0x09, #backtrack
[15:55] <nightf0x09> empty channel
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[15:55] <agentc0re> thrice`: Pfft, no you weren't.. And i think the time has changed to 8:43pm :P
[15:55] <slackytude> tough luck
[15:56] <Zordrak> agentc0re: fine for tapes... but i gave up on amanda entirely cause im setting up a to-dhisk backup
[15:56] <dive> you won't get much help around here for backtrack or slapt-get.
[15:56] <chopp> nightf0x09: #remote-exploit
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[15:57] <nightf0x09> chopp, banned :( but dunno why never joined there
[15:57] <Neo-Zionist> cuz you are root
[15:57] <nightf0x09> Neo-Zionist, thx
[15:57] <Neo-Zionist> genious!
[15:57] <nightf0x09> brb
[15:57] <agentc0re> Zordrak: Did you pay for amanda or use the community addition?  How did you like it versus bacula?  And why is amanda not good for disk-disk backup?
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[15:58] <agentc0re> How can you tell he logged in as root into irc?
[15:58] <Neo-Zionist> genious!
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[15:58] <dive> n=root@89.36.20.152
[15:58] <Dominian> see the n=root?
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[15:58] <Dominian> dive: damn you!
[15:58] <Zordrak> agentc0re: free ver / dont know yet not done setting up bacula / cause to amanda a disk is still tapes...  vtapes
[15:58] <Dominian> :)
[15:58] <dive> haha
[15:58] <Alan_Hicks> nightf0x09: I think you've got Slackware confused with backtrack. We don't do backtrack or other "Slackware deriviatives" here.
[15:58] <agentc0re> Ah.
[15:58] <agentc0re> lol
[15:58] <Zordrak> and vtapes are a TWAT
[15:59] <nightf0x09> thx
[15:59] <Neo-Zionist> damn it feels good to be a genious
[15:59] <nightf0x09> Neo-Zionist,  lol
[15:59] <Zordrak> agentc0re: root@ in id
[15:59] <Neo-Zionist> j/k its very lonely
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[16:00] <nightf0x09> to be genious?
[16:00] <dive> since there is no such word as genious - yeah I guess it is
[16:00] <agentc0re> Zordrak: Well if you need help with bacula, i still have my build script for server/client for linux boxes if you'd like those.
[16:00] <Neo-Zionist> yea, luckily POT is the great equalizer for social life
[16:00] <Alan_Hicks> Neo-Zionist: Your lonliness might be caused by illusions of grandeur.
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[16:00] <nix_chix0r> my internets have not crashed all day today this is amazing.
[16:00] <Zordrak> agentc0re: wouldnt hurt thx
[16:00] <Neo-Zionist> Alan_Hicks, i calculate chances of that are approximately 1.337%
[16:01] <agentc0re> i could also give you my config script so you have an idea of how a production dir conf file looks like.
[16:01] <Alan_Hicks> Correction: Illusions of adequacy.
[16:01] <Neo-Zionist> nix_chix0r, brown out made my modem fart, but i didnt lose connection to freenode
[16:01] <Zordrak> agentc0re: that would be the most useful bit
[16:01] <nightf0x09> Neo-Zionist, what is pot?
[16:01] <agentc0re> k
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[16:01] <nix_chix0r> Neo-Zionist, i have satellite internet and the pole is surrounded by oodles of snow
[16:01] <Neo-Zionist> nightf0x09, delta-9 tetrahydrocannibinol
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[16:02] <Neo-Zionist> nix_chix0r, be glad that wavelength of the em spectrum goes through most physical matter
[16:02] <wahcordian|Worky> http://imagebin.org/36904
[16:03] <nix_chix0r> i am thinking of upgrading it to a meg in a month
[16:03] <nightf0x09> Neo-Zionist, not that good at chemestry something like xtc?
[16:03] <Neo-Zionist> THC
[16:03] <nix_chix0r> caddyshack is on again=\
[16:03] <nightf0x09> aha
[16:03] <nightf0x09> weed
[16:03] <nightf0x09> got it
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[16:03] <nightf0x09> english not my native language some i'm having problems understading
[16:04] <nix_chix0r> THC should be universal;)
[16:04] <nightf0x09> Neo-Zionist,  you should try benzoylmethyl ecgonine
[16:04] <nightf0x09> ;))
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[16:04] <nix_chix0r> i'll just take some grape juice to go please
[16:05] <Neo-Zionist> lol
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[16:05] <nightf0x09> ;))
[16:05] <dive> what no beer?
[16:05] <nix_chix0r> i don't need to make my kegger ay bigger
[16:05] <Neo-Zionist> nightf0x09, would have helped with that sinus infection....instead i used grapefruit seed extract, allicin, capsaicin, and oil of oregano
[16:05] <nix_chix0r> any* mmyea
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[16:05] <agentc0re> Zordrak: http://pastebin.learnix.net/6 dir-conf
[16:05] <Neo-Zionist> raped that infection hardcore
[16:06] <dive> i bought 8 cans of 'pedigree' at local supermarket, i think it should have been called 'mongrel'
[16:06] <nightf0x09> benzoylmethyl ecgonine works faster
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[16:06] <nightf0x09> after few mins your like new
[16:06] <nightf0x09> :))
[16:07] <nix_chix0r> what about for phlemy throat syndrome
[16:07] <Neo-Zionist> doctor is cheaper
[16:07] <agentc0re> Zordrak: http://pastebin.learnix.net/7 bacula install script
[16:07] <dive> nix_chix0r, don't cough it up around here plskthx
[16:07] <Neo-Zionist> nix_chix0r, same regimen...kills any fungus/virus/bacterial infection
[16:07] <Zordrak> agentc0re: ty
[16:08] <Neo-Zionist> however it will not remove a fungal ball from the sinuses...that requires endoscopy :(
[16:08] <Zordrak> agentc0re: 9.94bn times simpler than amanda
[16:09] <agentc0re> Zordrak: http://pastebin.learnix.net/8 client install configure
[16:09] <Neo-Zionist> nix_chix0r, capsaicin is also an anti inflamatory
[16:09] <agentc0re> Zordrak: why would you say it's simpler?
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[16:11] <Zordrak> i never even got to the point of a test backup after 8 hours solid work on amanda
[16:11] <Zordrak> i was still trying to calculate the size needed for the individual vtapes and configure the changer
[16:11] <agentc0re> Zordrak: the dir-conf took me days to make.  I wouldn't say it's any different.
[16:12] <Zordrak> iw sure it's fine for tape backups... but it's a big nono for disk
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[16:12] <agentc0re> Zordrak: maybe i'm just slow and dumb though :(
[16:12] <Zordrak> agentc0re: thats a big layout
[16:12] <Neo-Zionist> nix_chix0r, or im wrong on that. good stuff either way
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[16:12] <Zordrak> i was trying to set up amanda for just two clients!
[16:12] <nix_chix0r> i was usin the wiki on that.
[16:12] <Neo-Zionist> There is evidence that capsaicin first emerged as an anti-fungal agent.[1]
[16:13] <Zordrak> bacula seems no harder than nagios
[16:13] <slackytude> Necrogami, citiation needed
[16:13] <agentc0re> Zordrak: Heh... Nagios is kind of a pain too :P
[16:13] <Zordrak> once you "get it" its pretty simple
[16:13] <slackytude> nagios is fine
[16:13] <Neo-Zionist> slackytude, trust me it works
[16:13] <Zordrak> slackytude: once you understand it
[16:14] <nix_chix0r> i could probally get similar results if i consume sriracha
[16:14] <slackytude> Zordrak, yeah, I like it :P
[16:14] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: smartctl -a /dev/sdd gives me only input/output errors.... it says device does not support smart
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[16:14] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, figures
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[16:15] <Old_Fogie> Joker_-_, is it possible that smart is turned off in your bios?
[16:15] <Joker_-_> Old_Fogie: bios doesnt detect the drive, it never did
[16:15] <Zordrak> agentc0re: whats the whole path sed munging aboot?
[16:15] <Neo-Zionist> bios wont detect things on external pci
[16:16] <Neo-Zionist> the pci bios does
[16:16] Action: Zordrak cant read sed :(
[16:16] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: nope, it detects my other drives, but not this one, it never did
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[16:16] <agentc0re> Zordrak: I guess the one thing that seems appealing to amanda for me is the gui, which is what you get when you buy the subscription.  Their costs versus bacula's costs... amanda=win.  Maybe setting everything up is easier in the GUI?
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[16:16] <Neo-Zionist> wacky...get the WD boot/test floppies
[16:16] <Neo-Zionist> and/or return it now
[16:16] <Old_Fogie> interesting, my external pci drives get smart , woohoo for me I s'pose
[16:17] <nix_chix0r> whadya do if your onboard video doesn't want to work how do you override to get external video cards to post. i'm sure every board is different but that's something i've had issues with in the past
[16:17] <Neo-Zionist> Old_Fogie, depends on their interface
[16:17] <agentc0re> Zordrak: Oh god... let me try and remember...
[16:17] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: way too late, guess it's out of warranty. I can't find my order on NCIX (where I bought it)
[16:17] <agentc0re> lol
[16:17] <Zordrak> agentc0re: perhaps.. but given you,re on tapes anyway... its better than Veritas NetBackup
[16:17] <Neo-Zionist> everyone take a break and backup your data
[16:17] <Joker_-_> heh
[16:17] <nightf0x09> lol
[16:17] <Neo-Zionist> thank me later
[16:17] <straterra> Backup your FACE
[16:17] <Zordrak> agentc0re: sorry....
[16:18] <Old_Fogie> backups are for pansies
[16:18] <nightf0x09> mynes backup on the fly
[16:18] <Old_Fogie> :)
[16:18] <Zordrak> agentc0re: Veritas NotBackup
[16:18] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: backin-up 500gb is nearly impossible for me as it's my largest drive available here
[16:18] <nightf0x09> ;))
[16:18] <agentc0re> Zordrak: I think i has having troubles compiling BAT cuz it required qt4 and it wasn't finding it when it did make or something.
[16:18] <dive> nix_chix0r, sometimes you have bios option for which device to boot from, other than that in X you need specify which device it is on bus
[16:18] <nix_chix0r> i have 40gigs of music on here if. i wont be heartbroken if NWA gets deleted
[16:18] <Neo-Zionist> so that WAS your backup
[16:18] <straterra> NWA?!
[16:18] <straterra> Don't let NWA get deleted
[16:18] <straterra> foo
[16:18] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: nope, it was my films collection...
[16:18] Action: Old_Fogie goggles NWA
[16:19] <agentc0re> Zordrak: I switched to bacula because i inherted veritass 8.6... OMFG talk about shittastic
[16:19] <edman007> nix_chix0r, should be in the BIOS...
[16:19] <nix_chix0r> dive, yeah issues i've had was i couldn't get anything to post such as the bios
[16:19] <Zordrak> agentc0re: it's doing something to qt4 in the path but i dont know what
[16:19] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: no more free movies for me...
[16:19] <edman007> but most board just putting in an external card will make it work
[16:19] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, so just hollywood crap, no loss
[16:19] <straterra> Dre is amazing
[16:19] <edman007> rm -rf nix_chix0r
[16:19] <Zordrak> 8.6? 6.6 is current
[16:19] <Zordrak> 6.5
[16:19] <nix_chix0r> edman007, no
[16:19] <dive> nix_chix0r, you mean no bios screen at all?
[16:19] <nix_chix0r> you cannot delete me
[16:19] <nix_chix0r> dive, yeah.
[16:19] <nix_chix0r> something is seriously effed
[16:19] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, consider yourself lucky
[16:19] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: yeah, the data isnt THAT important. Still, the drive looks dead and well, I want my movies ;~(
[16:19] <edman007> nix_chix0r, have you tried both heads on the card?
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[16:20] <edman007> and clear the CMOS?
[16:20] <nix_chix0r> CMOS shoot no
[16:20] <nix_chix0r> i'll try that later
[16:20] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, freezer time
[16:20] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: lucky for... ? I put hours and hours on that damn home lan to have something reliable... I moove a box and poof, it's dead.
[16:20] <dive> nix_chix0r, try that and look in mobo book to see if there's any way of using jumpers to set which card to use, although I've yet to see that...
[16:21] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: yeah, I think imma call to see if it's still warrantied by WD, who knows
[16:21] <agentc0re> Zordrak: i also seem to remember it kept finding qt3.  I'm not a sed expert and more than likely someone in this room helped me out with that sed command.
[16:21] <Neo-Zionist> wd does 5 year or 3 year
[16:21] <Zordrak> agentc0re: which notbackup version did you inherit? (i inherited 3.5 on solaris7 *upchuck*)
[16:21] <nix_chix0r> i was building a pc for my brother since his is a p.o.s and i gave him all the stuff and his roomie was like yeah nothing works.  so all he did was take the power supply and sound card =\ totally defeats the purpose of me giving him a computer 500% better
[16:21] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: it should be under some warranty then... I dont think I have that drive for more than 3 years... were there any 500gb 3 years ago anyway?
[16:22] <Neo-Zionist> destroy your data with thermite before sending ;)
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[16:22] <agentc0re> Zordrak: I didn't even have netback up... i had something older.  It was just Veritas 8.0
[16:22] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: microwave destroy?
[16:22] <dive> nix_chix0r, all that work for 0 eh?
[16:22] <Zordrak> agentc0re:  oic .. im now on 6.5 on Sol10.. but it still makes me feel ill
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[16:22] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: wouldnt it void the warranty? :)
[16:23] <Zordrak> agentc0re: is bat worth compiling qt4?
[16:23] <nix_chix0r> dive, i'm kinda annoyed honestly what i think is happening is it's just a video card issue and i'm not there to test it and that guy is trying to take my parts for himself. i'm going over there later to collect the parts and test it out
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[16:23] <agentc0re> Zordrak: Yes... Bat is very worth it.
[16:23] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, get that nano-thermite the navy developed for 9/11
[16:23] <Zordrak> agentc0re: ballsacks
[16:24] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: lol, will it work with a dead drive?
[16:24] <agentc0re> agentc0re: I've used it a ton.  It helps out a lot.
[16:24] <Zordrak> agentc0re: i wasnt gonna bother
[16:24] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, im joking, it will destroy the drive and any concrete under it
[16:24] <dive> nix_chix0r, the video card is the first thing to boot - if the mobo card is broke I'm not sure what options you have, but certainly try clearing cmos
[16:24] <agentc0re> Zordrak: You only have two clients to back up, so it may not be worth it for you.
[16:24] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: lol sry, I dont speak english that well so I dont get all the irony / jokes :P
[16:24] <Neo-Zionist> as well as...exploding...because nano-particles are VERY energetic
[16:24] <Zordrak> compile of qt4 on a PIII 1GHz with 512MB PC133
[16:24] <agentc0re> Zordrak: it's just a gui for bconsole
[16:24] <Zordrak> agentc0re: will expand to 6-ish
[16:24] <agentc0re> Zordrak: but it makes things easier for me.  Esp. restores.
[16:24] <nix_chix0r> edman007, if i send you a case can you fix it;p
[16:25] <agentc0re> Zordrak: i would recommend it.
[16:25] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: I tought it was a name for somekind of software data eraser but I was wondering how it could do anything on a dead drive... anyway.
[16:25] <edman007> nix_chix0r, yea...
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[16:25] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, it wont
[16:25] <edman007> but i don't have to give it back right?
[16:25] <agentc0re> Zordrak: lol
[16:25] <nix_chix0r> edman007, it doesn't power up. i've  tried 4 power supplies
[16:26] <straterra> Motherboard FAIL
[16:26] <Zordrak> agentc0re: headless box at my parents' place
[16:26] <nix_chix0r> no
[16:26] <nix_chix0r> mobo works in other cases
[16:26] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: Yay, it's warrantyed 5 years :D
[16:26] <straterra> then grounding FAIL
[16:26] <Old_Fogie> technician: "Is it plugged into the wall" ... customer: "No! It didn't come with a wall"
[16:26] <edman007> nix_chix0r, first step is disconnect everything, so you just have monitor, keyboard, and power supply, only connected to the mobo, one stick of ram too, clear the cmos and test it like that
[16:27] <edman007> if it does not work after that you are probably stuck
[16:27] <edman007> what socket is it?
[16:27] <nix_chix0r> 939
[16:27] <nix_chix0r> like i'd give him the am2
[16:27] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, effects on nano-thermate (thermite + sulfur) on architectural steel  http://i42.tinypic.com/99hpcg.png
[16:28] <nix_chix0r> straterra, it's a pimp case spend 60bucks on it
[16:28] <straterra> nix_chix0r: still may not be grounded properly
[16:28] <Zordrak> .... no qwt on SBo?
[16:28] <straterra> I'd take the mobo out, check all the mounting posts, then remount it
[16:28] <straterra> OR..take it out of the case..hook everything up and start it with a jumper/screwdriver
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[16:29] <straterra> let the mobo sit on a static bag
[16:29] <nix_chix0r> hmm
[16:29] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: I dont clearly see what it is
[16:29] <edman007> straterra, no, static bag is very bad
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[16:29] <straterra> edman007: how so?
[16:29] <edman007> straterra, an anti-static bag is anti-static because its conductive
[16:29] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, energetic explosion is so hot and fast it can bend architectural grade steel without cracking it
[16:29] <straterra> put it on a stack of paper then
[16:29] <straterra> it doesnt really matter
[16:29] <edman007> paper is better
[16:29] <nix_chix0r> i've done worse
[16:30] <nix_chix0r> usually i test by hanging near a tub
[16:30] <edman007> if you put it on a static bag you will short out the whole board
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[16:30] <dive> and we have already know it works in other cases?
[16:30] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: usefull... ?
[16:30] <dive> so like straterra says - check posts and grounding
[16:30] <Zordrak> this will take YEARS
[16:31] <Neo-Zionist> anti-static bag he meant im sure
[16:31] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, for demolitions
[16:31] <nix_chix0r> no the case and mobo was a different situation. the mobo worked fien when i had it up and running. i bought that case for it a year ago and the case never powered up so i got frustrated and bought a new one that worked just fine. eventually built another computer and was gona give him that one. he gets it up in his case and the video doesn't post
[16:31] <Soul_keeper> Zordrak, distcc with your buddies and their quads :)
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[16:31] <Zordrak> 93MB RAM free *before* fscking stupid slow connection to trolltech
[16:32] <zaltekk> how can i tell KDE 3.5.10 to automount a USB device(ipod) without launching Konqueror?
[16:32] <BP{k}> Zordrak: seems it's not there. But feel freee to submit one. ;)
[16:32] <straterra> could also be the power switch
[16:32] <straterra> id take it out of the case and try it
[16:32] <zaltekk> if i don't select "Open In New Window" it won't mount
[16:32] <Zordrak> owait.. RAM not an issue... just me ignoring buffers
[16:32] <straterra> elimate the case as a possibility
[16:32] <Neo-Zionist> zaltekk, use the desktop icon?
[16:32] <nix_chix0r> if i get that pc working i may just keep it=0
[16:32] <Zordrak> but still 8h30 remaining on qt source DL
[16:33] <dive> nix_chix0r, did those cases come with psu's or did you put those in? tested with other psu's?
[16:33] <Zordrak> and thats after 20% has already been pulled
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[16:33] <zaltekk> Neo-Zionist: Can I not have KDE automount without executing a program to view the files?
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[16:33] <nix_chix0r> it came with a pus of 350watt which should have been just fine. if i can recall when i origionally got everything set up it attempted to power up . the light came on the fan spun on the side and it did nothing.
[16:33] <Neo-Zionist> zaltekk, probably, i dont use kde, you'd still need to unmount it manually
[16:34] <dive> nix_chix0r, test with another psu would be a good idea
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[16:34] <zaltekk> hmm. i only want to use the ipod in amarok, but i don't like having extra programs launch that i have to close every time i plug in the ipod
[16:34] <nix_chix0r> dive, tested 4psu
[16:35] <dive> ah ok
[16:35] <Zordrak> bloody iptraf... stop causing the traffic cycle of death!
[16:35] <Neo-Zionist> zaltekk, you can right click the desktop icon and do mount
[16:35] <Zordrak> just cause iw rewoted in
[16:35] <dive> back to the case grounding and posts then
[16:35] <zaltekk> Neo-Zionist: yeah...but there should be some way to let it automount without launching konqueror
[16:36] <Neo-Zionist> zaltekk, if you use kde konqueror is already loaded....i dont know if mounting from the desktop icon opens a window afterwards
[16:36] <zhorX> Neo-Zionist: just finished with custom kernel config, works like a charm
[16:36] <zhorX> should have worked with initrd though
[16:36] <zhorX> oh well
[16:36] <Neo-Zionist> i just use huge....
[16:37] <Old_Fogie> yup super-size it!
[16:37] <zhorX> well, its black on white that we shouldnt use huge on prod machines in slack docs
[16:37] <agentc0re> Zordrak: I would also look into using the following web utilities.  webacula, web-bacula and bweb.
[16:37] <zhorX> but whatever!
[16:37] <zhorX> it works now :)
[16:37] <Neo-Zionist> yay0rz
[16:37] <zhorX> thanks for your help
[16:37] Action: Old_Fogie been using huge with a few minor tweaks for years
[16:37] <Neo-Zionist> that will be tree-fiddy
[16:37] <agentc0re> Zordrak: you could do without bweb though.
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[16:38] <Neo-Zionist> paypal or money order
[16:38] <agentc0re> I use huge-smp with mem tweek.
[16:38] <Neo-Zionist> whats mem tweek
[16:39] <Zordrak> agentc0re: remind me when i wake up :)
[16:39] <Old_Fogie> agentc0re, yup , I add pre-emption, adjust timer to 300 and err...that's about it
[16:39] <agentc0re> reconfigured kernel for 64Mb mem.  When it was set to 4, it wouldn't recognize my 4gig, but it does with 64.
[16:39] <straterra> 64MB of memory?!
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[16:40] <Zordrak> i just take pats generic and add the sata controller and ext3
[16:40] <nix_chix0r> Old_Fogie, mewp
[16:40] <straterra> And if you have 3.5+ GB ram..you should really run 64-bit
[16:40] <Old_Fogie> Zordrak, yeah I hate messing w/initrd's myself
[16:40] <Old_Fogie> nix_chix0r, where's my pony!
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[16:40] <nix_chix0r> Old_Fogie, posing as ED?
[16:40] <agentc0re> Old_Fogie: Whats the benefit for 300 timer?  pre-emption that's the desktop setting versus the server right?  Oh and i also specify my CPU (not sure if it really does anything).
[16:41] <Zordrak> Old_Fogie: i like small kernels... but if i had to initrd id go back to huge
[16:41] <Old_Fogie> agentc0re, 300 is so it's more in sync for audio video stuff
[16:41] <nix_chix0r> i like large kernels
[16:41] <agentc0re> Old_Fogie: Interesting... I should probably recompile :)
[16:41] <Old_Fogie> agentc0re, the premption gives you the "feel" of snappiness
[16:41] <Old_Fogie> agentc0re, check out mythtv site, they have good comments on the 300 thing
[16:42] <Neo-Zionist> jiffies!
[16:43] <agentc0re> straterra: I don't want to hassle with 64bit.  Don't know much about this but i really don't want to have to worry if an app i want to use is only 32bit, trying to figure out how to make it work on my 64bit system.
[16:43] <straterra> well..32-bit just works..
[16:43] <straterra> there isn't really any issues nowadays
[16:43] <Dominian> nope
[16:43] <Dominian> I run quite a few 32bit apps on slamd64
[16:44] <Zordrak> BP{k}: http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-12.0/libraries/qwt/5.0.2/src/qwt.SlackBuild
[16:44] <Zordrak> BP{k}: migcht as well just tweak that
[16:44] <agentc0re> Well maybe one day pat will do a 64bit version.
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[16:44] <Neo-Zionist> how much more hdd space does slamd64 need for libraries?
[16:44] <agentc0re> until then, i'm totally fine with 32bit slackware.
[16:45] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: for some realy, realy weird reasons, I unplggued the drive, switched the jumper to an other mode, put the drive back in and poof, it works.
[16:45] <Dominian> Neo-Zionist: not much
[16:45] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: I havent even rebooted
[16:45] <Dominian> Neo-Zionist: I dn't have exact measurements though
[16:45] <Dominian> but it isn't that much
[16:45] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, wtf.
[16:46] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: wtf indeed... It was on "compatible" mode, you know, sata 150mbps... switched it to full 3gbps spectrum thing
[16:46] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: and thats it, it works
[16:46] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: no reboot, nothing
[16:46] <Neo-Zionist> and why did it stop working...
[16:47] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: 'caus I stopped the computer. It's a server, I never shut it down
[16:47] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: and I had to shut it down since I was mooving it
[16:47] <nix_chix0r> straterra, would you ever emerge --update --deep world
[16:47] <Neo-Zionist> wft
[16:47] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: smart thing and all the commands fail, but I can read the drive, it's mounted and it works.
[16:47] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: I'm lost
[16:48] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, might want to reboot before you celebrate...but thats insane
[16:48] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: I might NOT want to reboot
[16:48] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: It's on a battery back-ups (apc) and it WONT reboot...
[16:48] <agentc0re> Dominian: did you have to do anything special to get them to work or was it just like a normal pkg install?
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[16:48] <jkwood> agentc0re: It's just a normal install.
[16:49] <jkwood> That's why slamd64 comes with compatibility libraries.
[16:49] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, so now make a simple php script to transcode the videos to flv and stream them to a flash player
[16:49] <Neo-Zionist> and give me a link
[16:49] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: false joy, can't mount the drive after all :(
[16:49] <jkwood> Unlike certain other distributions, fred does the right things with reference to library locations and whatnot.
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[16:50] <godling> In gnuplot, how might I a) label the y axis with dollar signs + yrange, 2) label the individual bars in my bar graph with their values?
[16:50] <Joker_-_> mount: /dev/video/video: can't read superblock
[16:50] <Dominian> agentc0re: it works just like slackware.. if thats what you mean.. depends on the 32bit app too that you're talking about
[16:50] <godling> (if anyone here uses gnuplot still, that is)
[16:50] <Neo-Zionist> Joker_-_, reboot?
[16:50] <jackoy> hello
[16:50] <Joker_-_> Neo-Zionist: ... *cross fingers* rebooting..
[16:50] <Zordrak> agentc0re: i cant find a single fscking screenshot of bacula-web
[16:51] <Neo-Zionist> sounds like its physically ill, but at least the controller chip is responding
[16:51] <Dominian> http://www.bacula.org/manuals/bacula-web/bweb-index.png
[16:51] <Zordrak> Dominian: ty
[16:51] <Dominian> http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=bacula-web&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2
[16:51] <Neo-Zionist> shit its 5...gotta go
[16:51] <Zordrak> Dominian: my head is pounding right now
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[16:51] <Dominian> no worries man
[16:51] <Zordrak> i think id better go home soon
[16:52] <Zordrak> too many 14 hour days
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[16:53] <agentc0re> Zordrak: ha, spelled your name wrong... who's the newb now? :P  anyways, first search.. http://www.bacula.org/manuals/bacula-web/Screen_Shots.html
[16:53] <Zordrak> omg... i even looked through the list on the parent page and totally missed the beg blue lunk te "Screen Shots"
[16:53] <agentc0re> lol
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[16:54] <Zordrak> agentc0re: everyone misses out that R i dont know why
[16:54] <Zordrak> it's Zor not Zow
[16:54] <Zordrak> losng bilty t speel an typ
[16:55] <Zordrak> feel like brain melting
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[17:00] <agentc0re> Zordrak: If feels like your brain is melting, chances are it probably is.  You might want to go home :P
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[17:00] <Zordrak> waiting for the missus
[17:00] <Zordrak> shes at a birthday party
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[17:01] <Zordrak> wtf... "Buy Qt"?
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[17:02] <jackoy> I have a small problem accessing my hard drive, this is a 500 Go SATA. When I cat /proc/partitions I see my hard drive (on sda and sda1) but when I mount it (mount /dev/sda1 /tmp) I have this error :
[17:03] <Zordrak> LOL
[17:03] <jackoy> GFS2: Unrecognized block device or mount point /dev/sda1
[17:03] <jackoy> GFS2: gfs2 mount does not exist
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[17:04] <jackoy> gpart -vdd /dev/sda show me that sda1 is 0x83 filesystem type
[17:04] <agentc0re> You know what sucks?  Well besides cheap whores, when fucking soup explodes in the microwave...
[17:04] <Zordrak> Qt Pay > Qt Free because....... "You can make closed source apps and you get to do it in visual studio"
[17:04] <Zordrak> FAIL
[17:04] <jackoy> Do you have an idea on what's going on ?
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[17:05] <Zordrak> jackoy: mount -t <correct fs type> <dev> <mpt>
[17:05] <jackoy> I tried this
[17:05] <jackoy> mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /tmp
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[17:06] <jackoy> and I have the traditionnal mount error (wrong fs type...)
[17:06] <jackoy> dmesg show me this :
[17:06] <agentc0re> jackoy: have you been able to mount it before?
[17:06] <jackoy> hmm....no this the hard drive on my NAS and I tried to save the data
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[17:07] <jackoy> I used slax to boot and...tried to mount the hard drive
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[17:08] <jackoy> using ext2 with mount show me this :
[17:08] <Zordrak> jackoy: looks like a kernel issue
[17:08] <Zordrak> whats your kernel
[17:08] <jackoy> VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev sda1
[17:08] <agentc0re> ... Wait.  from the sounds of it this harddrive has mounted before.  Or this is the first time you've used your NAS and you're trying to set it up.
[17:08] <wahcordian|Worky> anyone here use rtorrent?
[17:09] <jackoy> Zordrak: this is a 2.6.27.8 kernel
[17:09] <macavity> that looks like the filesystem is trashed
[17:09] <dive> wahcordian|Worky, yes but for a short time only
[17:09] <agentc0re> macavity: exactly.
[17:09] <agentc0re> jackoy: you need to fsck that partition
[17:09] <Zordrak> jackoy: custom, generic or huge?
[17:09] <jackoy> agentc0re: this hard drive has ever been mounted before I put it on my machine
[17:09] <wahcordian|Worky> dive I'm having trouble. I have a huge torrent and I only want like 3 files from it and I want to stop all downloads except those three. Its quite tedious.
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[17:10] <Zordrak> it ounds like a scsi read capacity fail
[17:10] <wahcordian|Worky> looks like it has it's own channel tho so I'll ask there.
[17:10] <agentc0re> jackoy: wtf..?  never or ever?
[17:10] <macavity> Zordrak: from the error message it is clear that the kernel knows what ext2 is.. otherwise you get a "bad superblock" error
[17:10] <dive> wahcordian|Worky, i havent't tried that yet but would be interested to know the answer
[17:10] <Zordrak> macavity: i didnt mean it was missing a driver
[17:10] <jackoy> Zordrak: I don't know if it is a huge or not this the slax kernel
[17:10] <macavity> FUCK!
[17:10] <Zordrak> jackoy: #slax
[17:11] <macavity> go AWAY
[17:11] <macavity> slax is NOT slackware
[17:11] <jackoy> agentc0re: Hmm...ever I think...In my NAS it works
[17:11] <macavity> we have no idea what the fuck they did to the kernel/packages/udev rules/hald rules/etc
[17:11] <jackoy> Zordrak: you think it is a slax issue ?
[17:12] <Zordrak> jackoy: /join #slax
[17:12] <macavity> jackoy: i am talking to you... dont ask Ubuntu questions in here either
[17:12] <Zordrak> jackoy: /part ##slackware
[17:12] <jackoy> macavity: suck my dick
[17:12] <agentc0re> lol
[17:13] <kjell> jackoy: What if you would show some respect instead?
[17:14] <macavity> some day i am going to kill the idiot who wrote "slax is based on slackware"... that's supposed to read "just because slax once upon a time used slackware as a refference, doesnt mean that you can annoy the slackware community with questions they have no possible way of answering"
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[17:14] jackoy kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: No, suck this.  ##slackware != ##slackware_derivatives
[17:14] <macavity> no need
[17:14] <dive> lol
[17:14] <chopp> haha...perfect
[17:14] <agentc0re> jackoy: Okay lets start over again.  You are running slackware (what version?) to run a NAS server.  You installed a new harddrive or your NAS broke with existing harddrives?  please be more specific.
[17:14] <agentc0re> oh..  well nevermind.
[17:14] <macavity> agentc0re: ;-)
[17:15] <macavity> i dont know how many times ive seen that... 20 minutes in to the session it gets feebly squeezed out of them: "but, but... this is slax?!?"
[17:15] <wahcordian|Worky> dive, from the files screen you just type * and it cycles all downloads to the same status off, normal, or high priority.
[17:15] <dive> ah ok, thanks wahcordian|Worky
[17:16] <agentc0re> he needs to learn how to communicate better.  He couldn't even really tell us what the fuck is wrong.  i couldn't tell if he was running slackware or slax for his NAS and if it was a new or old hd.
[17:16] <wahcordian|Worky> pretty dang sweet.
[17:16] <macavity> kjell: so, have you gotten your slackware box up and running yet?
[17:16] <kjell> macavity: Hehe I'm waiting for the computer at the moment. It should be here in the end of the week or in the beginning of the next one.
[17:17] <macavity> great.. but before you start, i must warn you properly..
[17:17] <macavity> Slackware is like Hotel California ;-)
[17:17] <kjell> macavity: Been doing the install on a VM, although I deleted the hda in someway and the whole thing broke. Need to do it again when I'm boored. ;)
[17:17] <macavity> ... you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave :P
[17:17] <dive> wahcordian|Worky, works nice here :)
[17:17] Action: Zordrak votes for +m and then +v = join+1day
[17:18] Action: Zordrak greylists slaxers :)
[17:18] <macavity> :P
[17:18] <macavity> there is only one kind of users who are more idiotic... backtrack users :-/
[17:18] <kjell> Why +v when beeing here for a day. I certainly would have left and never returned if that was needed to be allowed to talk.
[17:18] <Zordrak> definitely irc greylisting ftw
[17:18] <jkwood> 16:18 [oftc] -!- jkwood [~jkwood@lazy.slaxer.com]
[17:19] Action: macavity hands jkwood a proper tool for selfflogganation
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[17:20] <Zordrak> either that or just +i
[17:21] <macavity> it doesnt really matter.. generally your oppers/staffers are quick to respond
[17:21] <Zordrak> lol.. +i == SpawAssassin, +m,+v=/j+1d == Greylisting :)
[17:22] <macavity> i can remember only once in recent times where i had to call for help more than once
[17:22] <macavity> .. and that idiot got k-lined
[17:22] <Zordrak> GOD DAWM DVORAK -- i spelt SpamAssassin wrong, went back corrected it and it was the same!!
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[17:23] <macavity> Stx tought him what a size 17 army boot in the face feels like :P
[17:23] <Zordrak> aaarrrrghhh!!! cant even spell damn!
[17:23] <rk4n3> holy crap - I missed something, didn't I ?
[17:23] Action: rk4n3 scrolls back
[17:23] <dive> Zordrak, well you speled 'damn!' but can you spell 'SpamAssassin'? ;p
[17:23] <macavity> rk4n3: not really.. just a slax user who got childish when realizing this was a slackware channel
[17:24] <Zordrak> dive: wuh?
[17:24] <dive> nvm
[17:24] <Zordrak> dive: re-read :)
[17:24] <macavity> Zordrak: just loadkeys uk-latin1 :P
[17:25] <Zordrak> then i'd have to touch tnype :)
[17:25] <macavity> all the better :P
[17:25] <Zordrak> its just cause im exhausted
[17:25] <macavity> didnt you know that it has recently been demonstrated that dvorak is in fact not faster?
[17:25] Action: dive throws Zordrak a beer
[17:26] <Zordrak> macavity: dont be a /. whore :)
[17:26] <macavity> :P
[17:26] <macavity> ill give you e-penis points for it though
[17:26] <macavity> i just spary paint my keyboard black instead... that keeps clueless users from asking if they "can try my linux" :P
[17:26] <Zordrak> im learning a lifelong skill.. not necessarily being able to use dvorak.. but being able to handle a different layout
[17:27] <Zordrak> teaching my fingers that qwerty is not the *only* way
[17:27] <macavity> qwertz is the only thing other than qwerty that i can type :P
[17:27] <Zordrak> plus its a just in case if i get major RSI in the future
[17:27] <macavity> RIS?
[17:28] <macavity> ^^
[17:28] <macavity> what you said
[17:28] <Zordrak> too tired to interpret what you mean.................
[17:28] <rk4n3> macavity:  ah, ic
[17:28] <macavity> Zordrak: what does RSI mean?
[17:29] <Zordrak> or to lift my fnger off of the .    ....................
[17:29] <Zordrak> repetetive strain injury
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[17:29] <Zordrak> gizoogle: RSI+dvorak
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[17:33] <macavity> lol... Blood Fronteir hits slashdot... and tomorrow they are bankrupt because of bandwidth over consumpsion :P
[17:33] <macavity> *frontier
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[17:39] <agentc0re> macavity: lol, they have totally been / .
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[17:43] <wahcordian|Worky> cya laters! /close ##Slackware
[17:43] <wahcordian|Worky> lol oops
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[17:47] <limac> How can I open .chm? Firefox's CHM REader is not working. :(
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[17:47] <macavity> limac: kchm or chmsee
[17:47] <macavity> limac: both available on SBo
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[17:48] <limac> ah, hey macavity, alright cool :)
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[17:48] <macavity> limac: you need chmlib (or what its name is) for either
[17:48] <macavity> limac: just search for chm, read the README and go own the motherfscker :P
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[17:49] Action: CaptObviousman read that as "go down on the motherfscker"
[17:49] <CaptObviousman> I was about to protest
[17:49] <macavity> heh :P
[17:50] <macavity> have you ever seen the drawing called "what's on a man's mind"?
[17:51] <limac> macavity: apparantly it seems to compile fine without it. no errors yet. ;)
[17:51] <limac> ah to run it?
[17:51] <limac> oic. :S
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[17:52] <limac> nope, it is running fine without that lib. Maybe Slackware has it installed.
[17:53] <limac> alrihgt, see ya guys later. G2g to concert.
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[17:56] <jkwood> limac: Yeah, Pat added chmlib to 12.2, I think.
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[17:56] <macavity> ah
[17:57] Action: macavity is still "stuck" on 12.1
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[18:00] <BP{k}> chmlib is not standard in slackware.
[18:00] <BP{k}> (it will be in -current as part of KDE4
[18:00] <thrice`> kde4 dep jkwood - BAD
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[18:05] <jkwood> Ah, my bad.
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[18:16] <Joker_-_> Who knows much about XFS? Corrupted XFS....
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[18:17] <Joker_-_> I'm watching ...................... [...] going by for nearly an hour now and I wonder if it will ever find anything...
[18:18] <Joker_-_> it says "found candidate secondary superblock... unable to verify superblock, continuing................. [...]
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[18:22] <holdmypocket> What advantages does Slackware have over ubuntu as a LAMP server?
[18:22] <straterra> uhm..nothing o.O
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[18:22] <holdmypocket> disadvantages?
[18:23] <alienBOB> None
[18:23] <holdmypocket> pure preference right?
[18:23] <alienBOB> Take what you are comfortable with
[18:23] <alienBOB> I would never use ubuntu for a LAMPP server
[18:23] <holdmypocket> i had a temp worker telling me that our LAMP server should be built on ubuntu because it was better than slackware
[18:23] <holdmypocket> and he couldn't give me any real reason other than it's 'easier to admin'
[18:24] <Joker_-_> ubuntu == very, very large community with lots of docs / forum, lots of users are noobs so lots of noobs questions are quickly answered
[18:24] <holdmypocket> but i've only ever used slackware.. and i'm the one who has to deal with it when he's gone
[18:24] <Joker_-_> slackware is more of a "geek" distro, imo.
[18:24] <dive> depends what you are used to
[18:24] <alienBOB> Not at all
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[18:24] <holdmypocket> i guess he had a hard time with the slackware install
[18:24] <dive> i would probably fail at ubuntu as would other slackers perhaps
[18:25] <Joker_-_> me?
[18:25] <holdmypocket> no
[18:25] <holdmypocket> i mean the intern
[18:25] <Joker_-_> Nah I used slackware for years
[18:25] <holdmypocket> that is building the lamp server
[18:25] <Joker_-_> I liked it very much!
[18:25] <Joker_-_> slackware install is pretty much straight forward
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[18:26] <Necos> i fail at fedora... lol
[18:27] <Joker_-_> Gentoo is kinda tricky but makes bleeding edge config easy. I would never use gentoo for a server tho as it needs several hours of compilation / week only to be up to date...
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[18:27] <macavity> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1096387&cid=26519523
[18:27] <Joker_-_> slackware is the perfect lamp imo
[18:27] <macavity> ^^
[18:27] <Joker_-_> it's dead stable.
[18:27] <macavity> dont drink while reading the above!
[18:27] <holdmypocket> <---does not care for the intern's attitude lol
[18:28] <SM177Y> hey i need to set a custom resolution in virtualbox. im running a virtual windowsxp on slackware. i need a custom res of 1280x800 so that when i go fullscreen..its actually fullscreen lol
[18:28] <holdmypocket> he's supposedly a consultant in his free time... and specializes in open source and building web servers and small networks
[18:28] <straterra> Joker_-_: err..thats a lie
[18:28] <alisonken1home> holdmypocket: I would say it doesn't have the bloat that *buntu's carry - makes it easier to setup a LAMP server w/o the graphics overhead
[18:28] <straterra> It doesn't take days/weeks to get up to date
[18:28] <holdmypocket> but when i asked him to install slackware he couldn't partition the disk, had trouble with the network setup.. i had to walk him thru it
[18:29] <holdmypocket> alisonken1home: i thought that slackware did indeed carry less 'bloat' but it sure does install a lot of pkgs
[18:29] <Joker_-_> straterra: hun?
[18:29] <dive> macavity, nice one :)
[18:29] <straterra> It doesn't take days/weeks to get up to date
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[18:29] <kitche> most open source consultants are just specialist in one area really
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[18:29] <Joker_-_> straterra: well, depending on hardware and level of... bah whatever, gentoo is a breeze to install and everything installs withing seconds. I dont feel like arguing bout that ;)
[18:30] <alisonken1home> holdmypocket: packages are selectable - you don't have to install everything
[18:30] <straterra> on modern hardware..it really doesn't take that long
[18:30] <holdmypocket> kitche: i'm quickly discovering that, thanks for confirming this for the sake of my sanity.. it's driving me crazy
[18:30] <holdmypocket> i've always done the full install just cause =p
[18:30] <LSD`> everything installs in seconds on Gentoo? On what, the Earth Simulator? o_O
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[18:31] <Joker_-_> straterra: I liked every distros for what they had, and hated em for what they lacked. Gentoo is nearly perfect for a desktop. I would never use it as a server for the above reason.
[18:31] <alisonken1home> Blue-Gene X
[18:31] <Joker_-_> macavity: damn nice link :) I'm spamming everyone with that for sure :P
[18:32] <thrice`> gentoo is a neat one indeed
[18:33] <Joker_-_> LSD`: lol, I was being ironic :P
[18:33] <holdmypocket> macavity: that is great
[18:33] <holdmypocket> lol
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[18:34] <macavity> LSD`: no.. its a cluster of playstations ;-)
[18:35] <Joker_-_> LSD`: on my quad with 4gb ram, it's taking me a few hours a week for normal updates, and more if I decide to waste time trying things and all. Ever tryed to compile OpenOffice? thats something lol
[18:35] <Joker_-_> macavity: what's the bogomips output of a playstation? :)
[18:35] <macavity> Joker_-_: i dont know.. i seem to get bogus readings :P
[18:36] <straterra> err
[18:36] <LSD`> Joker_-_: before or after you bend over backward to drag in the 7 specialist cores? :P
[18:36] <straterra> I update my gentoo boxes all the time
[18:36] <thrice`> a few hours seems like alot :|
[18:36] <straterra> I did like 10 updates today and it didn't even take 15 minutes
[18:36] <macavity> straterra: yeah... but you are "special" :P
[18:36] <Joker_-_> LOL
[18:36] <kitche> Telsa is cheaper then a cluster of playstation3's
[18:37] <straterra> I'd rather PLAY the PS3
[18:37] <Joker_-_> straterra: dunno what to tell you, if you got enought bandwidth, would you mind cross compiling shits for me? :)
[18:37] <straterra> I don't mind
[18:37] <Joker_-_> lol
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[18:37] <straterra> i haz uber cores
[18:37] <LSD`> If you can't find a use for the 7 specialised cores, the Cell is more or less just a normal dual core PowerPC. It's those extra cores that give it is power.
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[18:37] <slackytude> lulz
[18:37] <slackytude> nice slashdot comment
[18:38] <slackytude> just like daily WTF
[18:38] Action: slackytude ponders of doing the same at work
[18:38] <straterra> I liked my 360 :(
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[18:38] <LSD`> straterra: what happened, RRoD?
[18:38] <kitche> I m surprised the 360's are still failing I have not had the issue yet though
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[18:39] <macavity> kitche: a mug of coffee will take care of that in no time :P
[18:39] <straterra> LSD`: I sold it
[18:39] <straterra> needed cash
[18:39] <LSD`> Ah
[18:39] <straterra> Sold a ton of games...and controllers..and all kinds of stuff :(
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[18:40] <Joker_-_> anyone here knows how much time it takes to scan a 500gb drive (xfs_repair). I'm about to kill it...
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[18:41] <kitche> Joker_-_: a while depends on RAM among other things
[18:41] <Joker_-_> it only shows dots and from time to time it says something like: /hey I found a superblock... oh noes I dont know what to do forget it, continuing"
[18:41] <Necos> lol
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[18:45] <Necos> i broke the intarweb
[18:45] <slackytude> fix it!
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[18:46] <Joker_-_> kitche: were talking hours? say on a p4 2ghz with 512mb?
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[18:46] <kitche> Joker_-_: yes with that much ram it would take a few hours
[18:46] <PaddyMac> Good evening folks.
[18:46] <Joker_-_> kitche: humk, and what are the chances of recevery if it always says it can'T do anything with the superblock it finds?
[18:46] <Joker_-_> *recovery
[18:47] <kitche> Joker_-_: depends but if it can't do anything then something is wrong either with the drive or something else
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[18:47] <kitche> since sometiems a bad controller can do that
[18:47] <slackytude> kde 4.2 on windows O_o
[18:47] <slackytude> something is wrong with that picture
[18:47] <kitche> slackytude: yes kde4 has a windows port
[18:48] <slackytude> eh
[18:48] <kitche> it's mainly the programs not the desktop
[18:48] <slackytude> I guess I gotta try tha
[18:48] <dive> ?
[18:48] <slackytude> oh, I knew about the programms
[18:48] <slackytude> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/01/testing-kde-42-release-candidate-on-windows.ars
[18:48] <Joker_-_> kitche: the controller is a pci card (e-sata) plugged to a box with 6 drives (a splitter and all), all the other drives works fine...
[18:49] <Joker_-_> kitche: so it leaves the drive... it's still under warranty for 3 years so...
[18:49] <dive> can't see the point of a kde windows point myself - it's so much like windows not to matter
[18:50] <dive> i used bb4win for a time
[18:50] <dive> that was snappy
[18:50] <slackytude> ah, but amarok and umbrello on windows? some of me windows mates would like that
[18:50] <dive> s/point/port
[18:51] <Necos> as a shell replacement, that's not a bad idea (even tho i don't like KDE)
[18:51] <slackytude> funny enough, together with openoffice, firefox, thats almost like running linux.
[18:51] <Necos> i mean, my coworkers all use litestep
[18:52] <kitche> hmm wanted to check out blood frontier and their site is donw due to being /.'d
[18:52] <Necos> fail
[18:52] <slackytude> kitche, tried taking it from sourceforge?
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[18:52] <Necos> but i for one miss the slashdotting
[18:52] <PaddyMac> Yesterday I was trying to figure out how to get my microphone working. Thinking that perhaps it was an ALSA bug, I downloaded the latest ALSA and compiled from source and installed it on Slackware 12.2. By mistake, I ran the ./snddevices script during the install. Now I have no sound. Does anyone have any ideas how I can fix this? I'm guessing I just need a guide on setting up ALSA with udev.
[18:52] <kitche> slackytude: I just wanted to see what it looks like first
[18:53] <slackytude> alrite
[18:54] <dive> PaddyMac, so long as everything was ./configure'd correct for your soundcard you should only need run alsaconfig, alsactl store, and alsamixer, after moprobing your snd_ mods of course
[18:54] <rob0> What was the evidence to make you think it was an ALSA bug?
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[18:55] <rob0> Did you try alsaconf and a mixer to unmute the mic?
[18:55] <rob0> (unmute and capture)
[18:57] <PaddyMac> rob0: I did some Google searching, and microphones not working under Linux seems to be a commonly reported problem, and some people suggested it might be an ALSA bug. I didn't have any other leads to explore.
[18:57] <thrice`> you know that they are muted by default, right?
[18:58] <PaddyMac> Yep. I used the mixer to set the audio settings. And for some reason it seems to want to use my PC Speaker.
[18:58] <kitche> slackytude: ah I see kde 4.2 plasmoid shell is now windows compatible as well
[18:59] <LSD`> A large number of the KDE apps became Windows-portable after they switched to autotools (or whatever it was)
[18:59] <slackytude> kitche, yes, very impressive
[18:59] <slackytude> LSD`, cmake
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[18:59] <slackytude> I definitly will bug some windows mates of mine tomorrow
[18:59] <PaddyMac> "lspci -k" shows that the ALSA driver cmi-pci is loaded.
[19:00] Action: macavity cant wait for samba4 to reach usable state
[19:00] <slackytude> macavity, agreed
[19:01] <slackytude> looks promising
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[19:01] <kitche> macavity: why for the AD like system :)
[19:01] <PaddyMac> rob0: I did try using the KMix mixer to unmute the mic before I trued anything else. I turned the record volume ta maximum, I trued turing the mic booster on. I even tried turning on line-in and aux in case it thought that was where teh mic was plugged in. I tried changing the mic setting to "mic-in". Nothing worked.
[19:01] <macavity> kitche: i see a real use for it for UNIX systems too
[19:01] <slackytude> but windows is going to use smb2, making it harder for samba, or so Ive heard
[19:01] <SM177Y> i tried the kde 4.2 setup on a 64 bit winxp setup and it dint work worth a sh*t
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[19:02] <euzao> hello
[19:02] <SM177Y> but all the kde apps that it installed worked fine
[19:02] <macavity> kitche: that is, i would like to run AD despite not having any windows machines
[19:02] <PaddyMac> But Windows XP recognizes the mic just fine.
[19:02] <Joker_-_> kitche: what does mean: "unable to verify superblock", is there a way to have a more "verbose" explanation of that "error"?
[19:02] <macavity> SM177Y: could you play audio with Amarok?
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[19:02] <SM177Y> i dont really have a use for running konqueror on windows tho :P even tho its kinda cool that u can
[19:02] <LSD`> slackytude: MS introduced SMB2 in Vista/Server 2008 iirc
[19:03] <slackytude> LSD`, aye
[19:03] <straterra> CIFS
[19:03] <SM177Y> macavity: i read that some ppl had trouble with it but i didnt try it myself sry
[19:03] <straterra> CIFS is very nice
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[19:03] <LSD`> SM177Y: http://u-is-spelled-you.com/ ;)
[19:03] <macavity> slackytude: the EU ruling on interoperability pretty much forces them to share the docs
[19:03] <SM177Y> after i figured out that plasma dint work worth a damn on 64 bit i just removed it.
[19:03] <SM177Y> LSD`: :P
[19:04] <kitche> Joker_-_: most likely means it can not verify if it's a superblock or not usually there is a verbose way I just do not know of one using xfs
[19:04] <straterra> file server on Vista/2k8 is MUCH nicer and faster than xp/2k3
[19:04] <macavity> slackytude: and MS have had a few "oh, we didnt even know that our selves" when talking to the samba guys... so one might suspect they actually make an efford this time :P
[19:04] <Joker_-_> kitche: I launched the check with -v (said to be verbose) but it doesnt speak a lot..
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[19:06] <SM177Y> LSD': LSD is actually Lysergic acid diethylamide :P but "u" dont see me bugging you about your name :P
[19:06] <slackytude> macavity, lets hope for it. last time I read about it, the samba guys were complaining about it. but me memory is bad
[19:07] <PaddyMac> Something different happened. I'll reboot. I migt be back shortly.
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[19:07] <SM177Y> unless your initials are actually LSD in which case it would be proper to have it spelt L.S.D. :P
[19:09] <macavity> slackytude: i can see that its format is pretty well known on the wireshark wiki
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[19:10] <macavity> slackytude: so i guess the rage you heard was before the EU infoced its ruling and told MS to cough up with, what, 16M Euro or what it was
[19:10] <gnubien> jimi hendrix -purple haze
[19:10] <snorks> does anyone know what the succeding (0) means after the 32 bit seq:ack numbers in this tcpdump (or windump) output here? '13:13:02.739053 IP 192.168.246.13.80 > 192.168.246.128.39886: R 1611053795:1611053795(0) win 0' and am I mixing up the seq:ack field? is it ack:seq?
[19:11] <slackytude> macavity, probably true. well Im glad its fixed then :)
[19:11] <slackytude> macavity, btw, long time no see. where did you ide?
[19:11] <slackytude> s/ide/hide
[19:12] <macavity> slackytude: oh, ive been around from time to time.. like... yesterday and the day before that :P
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[19:12] <macavity> slackytude: maybe its just the time slices i have for IRC that has gotten smaller
[19:13] <slackytude> macavity, thats is not neccesarily a bad thing
[19:14] <slack_fan> Does anybody know, why kde 4.2 packages didn't get merged with the main tree in -current?
[19:14] <BP{k}> slack_fan: because kde4.2 just came out today?
[19:14] <slack_fan> okay
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[19:15] <BP{k}> and before that Patrick deemed KDE4 not stable enough to be included but to keep it in testing.
[19:15] <slack_fan> but it was said that "so that
[19:15] <slack_fan> Slackware -current will be ready when KDE 4.2 is released!"
[19:16] <slack_fan> from the change log
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[19:16] <thrice`> only Pat knows what Pat is doing and has in mind.  we can guess just as good as you
[19:17] <slack_fan> okay, thank you!
[19:18] <macavity> having used every KDE release from 1.1.2 up to 3.5.10, i cant hold it against Patrick if he desides to go a little carefull on when to decide that KDE4 goes into mainline....
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[19:21] <AzMoo> Hey, does slackware use SysV style init?
[19:21] <thumbs> mostly, yes
[19:21] <thrice`> nope
[19:21] <thumbs> err
[19:21] <thumbs> a mix of both
[19:21] <thrice`> bsd-style
[19:21] <AzMoo> heh
[19:21] <slackytude> Azalyn, bsd style
[19:21] <rob0> Um, that's a religious question :)
[19:21] <snorks> can you read this?
[19:21] <slackytude> but it has support for sysv too
[19:21] <dive> here we go
[19:21] <slackytude> snorks, no
[19:21] <thumbs> it's no longer strictly bsd-style
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[19:21] <snorks> could you read my tcpdump question above?
[19:21] <rob0> SysVinit which can be called bsd-style
[19:22] <AzMoo> slackytude: Official support?
[19:22] <slackytude> AzMoo, yes
[19:22] <alisonken1home> it uses sysvint binary, but it's primary script layout is bsdish - with sysvinit-ish as the last step
[19:22] <snorks> slackytude: could you read my tcpdump question a bit above?
[19:22] <thumbs> AzMoo: you asked the million-dollar question
[19:22] <thrice`>  it calls things from /etc/rc.d, how's that? :)
[19:22] <rob0> alisonken1home wins
[19:22] <AzMoo> It's the script layout I'm really worried about
[19:22] <euzao> do you have a tutorial for newcomers?
[19:22] <AzMoo> thumbs: heh, seems like it.
[19:22] <slackytude> AzMoo, script layout?
[19:22] <dive> euzao, slackbook.org
[19:22] <rob0> euzao, /topic, slackbook?
[19:23] <AzMoo> slackytude: VMWare Tools require the rc0-6.d style directory layouts
[19:23] <slackytude> euzao, and slackwiki.org
[19:23] <thrice`> AzMoo: those were included in slackware for closed source apps such as vmware that wants them
[19:23] <slackytude> AzMoo, yes, that works, but newer VMWare requiers PAM
[19:23] <alisonken1home> start with /etc/inittab, then follow /etc/rc.d/rc.S
[19:23] <thrice`> rc.m*
[19:23] <euzao> can a person that never used Linux start it by using Slackware?
[19:24] <thumbs> euzao: why not?
[19:24] <thrice`> yes, alot of us have :)
[19:24] <alisonken1home> according to /etc/inittab, /etc/rc.d/rc.S is the first one called
[19:24] <rob0> I did, but I'm tough. :)
[19:24] <thumbs> euzao: if they're eager to learn, sure.
[19:24] <thumbs> rob0: you aren't, I know you.
[19:24] <dive> euzao, sure - just read those links in /topic
[19:24] <AzMoo> Alright, good stuff, thanks guys.
[19:24] <slackytude> euzao, been there, done that
[19:24] <slackytude> got the t-shirt
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[19:25] <snorks> ok since im not getting an answer im taking it as if my question was lost somewhere
[19:25] <snorks> does anyone know what the succeding (0) means after the 32 bit seq:ack numbers in this tcpdump (or windump) output here? '13:13:02.739053 IP 192.168.246.13.80 > 192.168.246.128.39886: R 1611053795:1611053795(0) win 0' and am I mixing up the seq:ack field? is it ack:seq?
[19:25] <thrice`> alisonken1home: yes, but M does all of the fun stuff :)
[19:25] <alisonken1home> thrice`: true
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[19:26] <macavity> snorks: cant wireshark tell you that?
[19:26] <lo3k> ;]
[19:26] <lo3k> that?
[19:26] <lo3k> sorry im late?
[19:27] <euzao> slackboy hehe
[19:27] <snorks> macavity: good idea (been at this for days now, brain getting messed up)
[19:27] <euzao> I stop using Slackware when it stopped supporting Gnome
[19:27] <thumbs> I hate gnome
[19:27] <lo3k> only txt
[19:27] <lo3k> ;>
[19:27] <thrice`> dropping gnome was a good thing
[19:27] <thumbs> indeed
[19:27] <thumbs> KDE 3.5 is really solid.
[19:27] <euzao> thrice` no way
[19:28] <slackytude> euzao, slackytude
[19:28] <thrice`> Pat spends more time on the core distro, and the gnome projects give it more attention than Pat could
[19:28] <euzao> KDE is so complicated...
[19:28] <thumbs> euzao: hahahaha
[19:28] <thumbs> euzao: gnome is all over the place
[19:28] <lo3k> stop use both
[19:28] <lo3k> and live will be easier
[19:28] <lo3k> ;>
[19:28] <AzMoo> xfce wins! ;)
[19:28] <euzao> thumbs all over the place?
[19:28] <slackytude> <3 xfce
[19:28] <slackytude> [ in bed ]
[19:29] <thumbs> euzao: the configuration, dialogs, .files, etc
[19:29] <dive> linux vanilla terminal wins ;P [ in bed ]
[19:29] <rob0> thumbs all over the place? [ in bed ]
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[19:29] <euzao> thumbs I like it because it is lighter than KDE
[19:29] <kjell> thumbs: ping!
[19:29] <thumbs> rob0: yeah, that's why you fell on the floor last night [ in bed ]
[19:30] <thumbs> kjell: hi
[19:30] <kjell> thumbs: Hello there!
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[19:30] <kjell> thumbs: I'm here to remind you etc. etc. Do it if you feel for it, otherwise, just say "FOCK JOO".
[19:30] <amazon10x> hello
[19:31] <dive> did anyone notice lo3k's bitchx quit message was longer than his total contribution to the channel?
[19:31] <thumbs> kjell: had no time, to be honest.
[19:31] <amazon10x> anyone here familiar with the usb installer? i want to know if i can just yank the stick out once it boots
[19:31] <kjell> thumbs: No problem at all, I'm in no rush etc. but I would love to make it work in the future so if you have time some day I would apprechiate it.
[19:31] <thumbs> maybe Thursday.
[19:31] <euzao> but I can't say anything
[19:32] <euzao> I've never used KDE as my main desktop
[19:32] <kjell> thumbs: What time is it at your place now? Where do you live?
[19:32] <thumbs> GMT -5
[19:32] <alisonken1home> amazon10x: if it does a pivot-root at the end of the startup, don't yank it. it's using the flash instead of ram
[19:32] <amazon10x> alright, i'll keep an eye out
[19:32] <kjell> thumbs: Okay, I will ping you at thursday or so. Just tell me if it's getting annoying etc.
[19:33] <kjell> GMT +1 here, so off to bed soon! Later slacks!
[19:33] <alisonken1home> amazon10x: as a quick check, type "mount" in a terminal and see if /dev/<flash partition> is loaded - if not, then your safe
[19:33] <amazon10x> oh good, nothing from /dev is mounted
[19:33] <amazon10x> thanks alisonken1home
[19:34] <alisonken1home> standard slack install ramdisk, then
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[19:35] <kitche> I must say one thing though Dynasty warriors Gundam is a cool game the 2nd one comes out in March(I can't stand the regular dynasty warrior games)
[19:36] <slackytude> kitche, thx for sharing
[19:36] <amazon10x> i'm working on setting up slack on my new netbook
[19:36] <alisonken1home> amazon10x: to be on the paranoid side, you may want to "eject /dev/<flash device> before yanking, but you should be ok
[19:36] <kitche> slackytude: your welcome :) think someone in here got me intrested in it hence why I said it
[19:36] <AzMoo> Anybody ever put slack on an eeepc?
[19:37] <amazon10x> azmoo, i'm about to put it on my nc10
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[19:37] <slackytude> kitche, heh, just some light fun, I do statements like that,too
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[19:37] <slackytude> AzMoo, yeah, some users in here do
[19:37] <AzMoo> amazon10x: funky. Any particular reason you chose slack for it?
[19:38] <AzMoo> slackytude: everything work no problem?
[19:38] <amazon10x> slack is what i use on my desktop, because i like to know what's going on and i like simple
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[19:38] <AzMoo> slackytude: I know that with ubuntu (blargh, I know) there's a few "eeepc tools" packs.
[19:38] <amazon10x> azmoo, have you seen this
[19:38] <amazon10x> http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=2640
[19:39] <slackytude> Azalyn, as far as I know, all is fine. you probably can hang around and wait till those guys are back. some ppl put slack on macbooks without problems either, afaik
[19:39] <AzMoo> amazon10x: nope, haven't even looked, just came to mind then. Thanks :)
[19:39] <amazon10x> i'm seeing a few things on google from people who used slack on the eee and it seems pretty painless
[19:39] <amazon10x> http://slackeee.strangled.net/
[19:40] <amazon10x> ^-- a whole project!
[19:40] <amazon10x> which eee do you have?
[19:40] <amazon10x> 7 or 10?
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[19:40] <AzMoo> 7
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[19:42] <amazon10x> i was going to put osx on my nc10 just to see hwo well it worked but i decided it'd be too much trouble
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[19:42] <AzMoo> amazon10x: That project looks useful, cheers.
[19:42] <amazon10x> np
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[19:46] <slackytude> rk4n3, you online?
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[19:50] <amazon10x> hmm, i think i'm going to piece together a desktop environment for my laptop, rather than going with kde
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[20:05] <Wolven> Anyone here compiled/run KDE 4.2 yet?
[20:06] <Wolven> I'm not really a KDE guy, but the new release looks interesting
[20:06] <alkos333> Ok, so I created /etc/udev/rules.d/02-flashdisk.rules for my Kingston flash drive.  Technically, the rule itself will not have to change, but I might need to change the file if I get another flash drive, etc, so the file itself might need to be modified.  Is this the appropriate name and path for the rule?
[20:07] <amazon10x> Wolven: i use kde on my desktop and wanted to try it but it has a very involved build process
[20:07] <amazon10x> so i didn't bother
[20:07] <xdan779> Wolven: I have been running it from trunk for awhile now
[20:07] <amazon10x> that is, building from svn. i guess they have kde 4.something in the /testing?
[20:08] <alkos333> yes, they do :)
[20:08] <alkos333> 4.2
[20:09] <Wolven> xdan779, so is it as stable and ready now as they claim it to be. Just saw the news of the 4.2 release on Slashdot, and I've never tried the 4.x series yet
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[20:10] <andarius> greetings and salutations
[20:10] <Pig_Pen> i am sticking with kde-3.5.x until i am dragged kicking & screaming to kde-4.x and if i still dont like it i will abandon KDE completely like i did gnome when gnome-1.4 was obsoleted and just use lightweight window managers like fvwm or openbox
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[20:11] <kitche> I use enlightenment Dr16 with some added things
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[20:11] <xdan779> Wolven: for me it has been very stable, you may want to wait until there are packages available before trying out
[20:11] <Wolven> Pig_Pen, what do you don't like about KDE 4.x? Too much fancy stuff?
[20:12] <Wolven> OK, thanks for the heads up xdan779 I'll keep an eye out for a set of build scripts or packages
[20:12] <Pig_Pen> i prefer just basic functionality, eye candy is ok but not a priority
[20:12] <kitche> kde4.x was stable when kde4.1 came out useablility stable is a whole another issue though
[20:13] <alkos333> Pig_Pen: fluxbox?
[20:13] <Pig_Pen> openbox  is my favorite of the *box WMs :D
[20:13] <alkos333> lol why?
[20:14] <amazon10x> i'm checking out openbox right now. i'm thinking i'll put it on my new netbook. goo didea?
[20:14] <amazon10x> good idea*
[20:14] <Wolven> I feel the same way Pig_Pen, I'm more of a Xfce guy, but I must admit that KDE 4.x looks a bit interesting, at least from the screen shots and video casts
[20:14] <alkos333> amazon10x: fluxbox has been forked from openbox to improve it, why not use fluxbox :)?
[20:14] <xdan779> Pig_Pen: I don't think kde was ever about basic functionality, I myself am still running afterstep on my secondary
[20:14] <amazon10x> fluxbox was forked from blackbox i thought
[20:15] <alkos333> shoot..
[20:15] <alkos333> You are right
[20:15] <Pig_Pen> i agree, kde-4.x is pretty but if pretty is all it is i might as well get a copy of the Mona Lisa and put it in front of my monitor
[20:15] <Wolven> lol
[20:15] <alkos333> I'm still spacing out after my power nap
[20:15] <amazon10x> the reason i was looking at openbox is because it underwent a complete rewrite and so is apparently super-lean and mean now
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[20:15] <alkos333> amazon10x: hehe .. "let's do a rewrite"
[20:16] <amazon10x> haha, yeah
[20:16] <alkos333> That doesn't mean it's super lean
[20:16] <amazon10x> hey, when you all install slack do you usually just install everything? that's waht i do.
[20:16] <Wolven> The only thing I miss from the *box WMs is the lack of foobar.desktop support
[20:17] <Wolven> amazon10x, I usually do a menu install, unless I'm feeling lazy. Then I might remove what I don't need afterwards
[20:17] <dive> Wolven, I am more fed up with foobar.desktop uses unkown mimetype
[20:17] <dive> messages
[20:17] <Wolven> yeah that sucks to
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[20:18] <amazon10x> but when you say "to," you mean "too"
[20:18] <amazon10x> :P
[20:18] <dive> some kde services are a bit too verbose
[20:18] <Wolven> yes, too*
[20:18] <macavity> night folks
[20:18] <dive> nn
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[20:19] <alkos333> amazon10x: I've been updating my T60 since 10.0, but for other machines, I use tagfiles
[20:20] Action: kitche never really figured out the tagfile way of thins
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[20:23] <kitche> hmm I can't seem to find vlc's service discovery option
[20:23] <dive> i just throw everything into the mix and then removepkg stuff later
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[20:27] <Khratos> Good evening
[20:28] <Pig_Pen> i wish i had a deafing loud air raid siren like in Black Sabbath War Pigs :D
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[20:29] <euzao> how do I update slack?
[20:29] <amazon10x> i've always used slackpkg
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[20:31] <Khratos> me too, it works just fine
[20:31] <Pig_Pen> me three
[20:31] <Wolven> euzao, I've never done a Slack upgrade, but Pat always release a set of instructions: http://slackwarec.ada.net.tr/UPGRADE.TXT
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[20:33] <Khratos> Yes, but I think he means an 'update' :/
[20:34] <dive> slackpkg can be used for security updates too
[20:34] <Wolven> ah, my bad
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[20:35] <Khratos> Yes, actually, I use it primary for that
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[20:46] <amazon10x> yay, finally got to the copying packages part
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[20:52] <limac> see ya guys later ;)
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[20:57] <nullboy> freaking A
[20:58] <nullboy> spyware mayhem was the game today
[20:58] Action: AzMoo stabs spyware in the face.
[20:59] <dive> someone's been using windows?
[20:59] <nullboy> two systems at a client site....but of course no one *ever* downloads anything or randomly clicks ok
[20:59] <dive> never
[20:59] <AzMoo> They didn't touch *anything*!
[21:00] <nullboy> one was so fscked up that administrator couldn't even run regedit in normal mode or safe mode
[21:00] <AzMoo> I don't understand how people get to that point
[21:00] <nullboy> i had to take the units for reinstalls
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[21:00] <nullboy> there is no point in trying to clean a system that has been raped like that
[21:00] <dive> and nobody ever owns up to it
[21:01] <nullboy> the owner there got on the PA and told all the workers that the next time any computer gets screwed, they are paying for me to fix it and not the owner
[21:01] <dive> sounds like the admin needs review his users power level if that happened
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[21:02] <dive> no way a normal user should be able to fsck up the registry like that
[21:02] <nullboy> they don't have a full timer right now so when i go back to reinstall these two units i'm going draconian on the group policies
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[21:04] <nullboy> and then the best part which i knew would happen sooner or later; all the employees want to pay me to do clean installs on their personal systems
[21:04] <nullboy> weeeee
[21:05] <dive> that would be good
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[21:06] <nullboy> yep
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[21:11] <nullboy> windows XP + spyware = tequila
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[21:13] <Wolven> because both make you sick and gives you headaches? =P
[21:13] <nullboy> lol
[21:14] <dive> just hold your breath and take it down in one
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[21:14] <dive> </how to stomach windows spyware>
[21:14] <Wolven> =D
[21:15] <nullboy> when you use only linux based systems and you find yourself working on windows XP systems that are members of an exclusive botnet all you can do is think "wtf...no srsly...wtf?"
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[21:17] <alkos333> I'm trying to write a udev rule for my external hard drive which has LUKS+LVM on it like so:  DRIVERS=="sd", ATTRS{vendor}=="External", ATTRS{model}=="AL25744_12345678", SYMLINK+="exthd", PROGRAM="cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/%k exthd && vgscan --mknodes && vgchange -ay" ... but it's not working :(
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[21:18] <nullboy> have you tired using udevadm test and giving it a path to that sys entry?
[21:18] <nullboy> i'm thinking that PROGRAM should be a script too
[21:18] <nullboy> not the actual commands
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[21:20] <alkos333> nullboy: Yes
[21:20] <alkos333> nullboy: If I get rid of the PROGRAM attribute, it creates a symlink
[21:20] <nullboy> you looked at what is happening with udevadm test ?
[21:21] <alkos333> nullboy: no
[21:21] <nullboy> see what it shows you, it's actually really helpful usually
[21:21] <dive> have you tried putting full paths to cryptsetup etc?
[21:21] <nullboy> PROGRAM= should be a script imo
[21:21] <nullboy> not a command string
[21:22] <alkos333> it could be either
[21:22] <alkos333> If it were longer, it would have been a script I suppose
[21:23] <nullboy> this is a good site http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[21:24] <alkos333> Yep, I have been looking at it
[21:24] <alkos333> A bit outdated though
[21:24] <nullboy> only the commands really
[21:24] <alkos333> Yes
[21:25] <nullboy> use udevadm to see what udev is actually doing
[21:25] <nullboy> udevadm test**
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[21:27] <skibur> anybody have a ti-89?
[21:27] <PaddyMac> Hi all. I've been tinkering with ALSA. It looks like everything is set up okay, but I have the PC Speaker as card0 and my actual sound card as card1. And my system wants to use card0 (the PC speaker) as the default sound card. How do I select card1 as the default?
[21:28] <edman007> skibur, i'm poor
[21:28] <skibur> o
[21:28] <edman007> skibur, what about em though? i've used em
[21:28] <skibur> just wondering if anybody has made the software work on it
[21:28] <skibur> like for slackware
[21:28] <PaddyMac> I always think about calculators when I think Texas Instruments.
[21:29] <edman007> skibur, yea, i had the silver link cable working, i assume the for the 89
[21:29] <skibur> were you able to use it via Linux?
[21:29] <skibur> with apps
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[21:29] <edman007> but the permissions can be a bitch, and i found i sometimes just had to use root because usbfs is insane with setting permissions
[21:30] <edman007> but that was a long time ago
[21:30] <nullboy> dood
[21:30] <nullboy> just mount usbfs with it's own gid
[21:30] <edman007> skibur, ticalc or something like that
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[21:30] <nullboy> its*
[21:30] <nullboy> i've battled usbfs too
[21:30] <nullboy> i said to hell with that and used a usbfs gid
[21:30] <edman007> nullboy, but i never mounted it....thats the problem, it just appears in /proc
[21:31] <nullboy> just add an fstab entry and it will use that
[21:31] <nullboy> i had the same issue with my fingerprint reader needing root
[21:31] <nullboy> which is not cool
[21:31] <edman007> ahh, well i've never done that
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[21:32] <edman007> but right now i don't use usbfs for anything..but thats good to know :)
[21:32] <nullboy> yeah, something like this will do the job: none                                            /proc/bus/usb   usbfs           defaults,devgid=218,devmode=0777        0 0
[21:32] <nullboy> then i just add lusers to g 218
[21:32] <edman007> because i was using the software a long time ago, and it was in /dev with a kernel driver, i always set the perms with udev
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[21:43] <nix_chix0r> edman007, i made spinach curry stuffed peppers for dinner
[21:43] <nullboy> oh god
[21:43] <nix_chix0r> nomnomnom
[21:44] <nullboy> i can see how curry is considered an edible substance
[21:44] <nullboy> but i can't see why people eait
[21:44] <nix_chix0r> i mixed the rice in with it and then stuffed the peppers and baked em for 30minutes
[21:44] <Wolven> damn, now I got hungry... That did sound good
[21:44] <dive> mmm
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[21:45] <edman007> nix_chix0r, nice
[21:45] <edman007> i had a cheeseburger...
[21:45] <edman007> :(
[21:45] <nullboy> i have frozen pizza and beer tonight
[21:46] <nix_chix0r> they wouldn't stay standing on a cookie sheet so i had to get all macgyver on it and stick them sorta on cupcake pans
[21:46] <dive> shepherds pie and mousaka
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[21:46] <Wolven> *lalalalalala* I'm not listening to this food talk
[21:46] <dive> and serveral beers
[21:46] <redtricycle> Okay, is this possible:
[21:47] <redtricycle> * Download at 50 kb/s normally
[21:47] <edman007> nix_chix0r, feed me
[21:47] <nix_chix0r> dive, you don't put uh creamed corn or peas in your shepards pie do you?
[21:47] <redtricycle> * But, if someone requests a webpage, give it to them at full speed, and lower download/uplaod speed
[21:47] <dive> redtricycle, you a friend of napoleon XIV?
[21:47] <redtricycle> dive: ?
[21:47] <alkos333> nullboy: Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but the external shows up as /dev/sdb1  Yet, when I run udevadm test /dev/sdb1, I get the following:  http://rafb.net/p/cZydFT78.html
[21:47] <dive> nix_chix0r, i bought it ready made
[21:47] <dive> no idea *what* was init
[21:48] <dive> I just chomped it down
[21:48] <dive> also it's dark here lol
[21:48] <nix_chix0r> oh , so it probally didn't most people who make those put creepy stuff in em
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[21:48] <dive> redtricycle, Napoleon XIV made a song a bout a tricycle
[21:49] Action: nix_chix0r sends dive all her steamed puddings andn flapjacks that won't get eaten
[21:49] <redtricycle> dive: ahh...no, my name is silly
[21:49] <dive> and i think it was red
[21:49] <redtricycle> dive: and I've been stuck with it ._.
[21:49] <dive> nix_chix0r, thanks ;)
[21:50] <nix_chix0r> np my mom is crazy in the head.
[21:50] <nomenot> Help please, whenever I echo environmental variables i get blank lines, like echo $shell but if i assign my own like myshell=/bin/bash echo $myshell works
[21:50] <edman007> nix_chix0r, is that genetic?
[21:50] <edman007> usually is....
[21:50] <nix_chix0r> yeah.. but i'm ok now
[21:51] <dive> nomenot, when you echo $shell, have you tried 'echo $SHELL'?
[21:51] <dive> case is important
[21:51] <edman007> nix_chix0r, are you sure?
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[21:51] <nix_chix0r> edman007, not really. but they stopped medicating me so i assume that's the reason
[21:51] <dive> and to see all your environmental variables type 'env'
[21:52] <edman007> nix_chix0r, maybe they just don't have anything strong enough, or decided its cheaper to medicate everyone in contact with you
[21:52] <edman007> (or more profitable)
[21:52] <nomenot> tight, thanks a bunch!
[21:52] <nix_chix0r> :|
[21:52] <chopp> lmao
[21:53] <dive> edman007, that would include us
[21:53] <nix_chix0r> edman007, no pony for you that is a deal breaker .. and you can forget about the tv!!!!
[21:53] <edman007> dive, yea...i think i got some free pills in the mail
[21:53] <dive> i want my meds!
[21:53] Action: nix_chix0r QQ
[21:53] <edman007> nix_chix0r, NoooOOOoO
[21:53] <edman007> its for the safety of the baby!
[21:53] <nix_chix0r> you make me sad
[21:54] <edman007> nix_chix0r, sorry, just some random thoughts...am i correct?
[21:55] <nullboy> dive: at a command prompt, enter a $ symbol and then hit tab twice
[21:55] <nullboy> ;)
[21:55] <dive> indeed
[21:55] <nix_chix0r> you are incorrect .nucca
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[22:02] <Azalyn> drama?
[22:03] <nix_chix0r> straterra, oioi
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[22:03] <slack_fan> How many of you guys installed KDE 4.2 already?
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[22:06] <thrice`> slack_fan: probably quite a bit :)
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[22:10] <slack_fan> okay, I see...
[22:10] <slack_fan> thrice, are you in the Slackware development group?
[22:10] <nullboy> i'll install it when it goes mainline in -current
[22:11] <dive> I'll install it when it's in stable. Other than that I couldn't care a ff for it
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[22:11] <nix_chix0r> i'll install it never;p
[22:11] <slack_fan> ))
[22:12] <agentc0re> So my dog ripped off a huge chunk of his nail... All i can see is the red part that you're not supposed to cut when cutting their nails.  Any dog owners out there ever have had this happen to their dog?
[22:12] <thrice`> slack_fan: nope :)  I've been trying 4.2 from since the betas, though
[22:12] <nix_chix0r> you should put some medical tape over that don't want it to bleed
[22:12] <jkwood> Me too.
[22:12] <nix_chix0r> he could irritate it
[22:13] <dive> agentc0re, sounds painful. See a vet and get something to put on it maybe
[22:13] <nullboy> agentc0re: neosporin and some tape
[22:13] <nix_chix0r> they'll charge out the rear to cover it up and give you antibiotics that aren't needed
[22:13] <slack_fan> okay, seems like everyone is waiting for it to be put into main
[22:13] <slack_fan> thx
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[22:13] <nullboy> agentc0re: or you could safely cover it with superglue which would seal it off. only do that after disinfecting with alcohol first
[22:13] <nullboy> that wold be what i would do
[22:14] <agentc0re> Sounds like a good plan.
[22:15] <agentc0re> It looks very painful, but he's not showing a single sign of pain. :P.  Earlier today i noticed it, but the nail was still "semi" attached.
[22:15] <jkwood> slack_fan: Well, 4.2 is the release we've been waiting for.
[22:16] <slack_fan> i see, guys
[22:16] <jkwood> Although, it's my thought that 4.3 will probably be out before the next release.
[22:16] <nullboy> agentc0re: yeah, you just want to disinfect and seal it off so it doesn't get a full out infection into the nail root
[22:16] <nullboy> superglue and rubbing alcohol have haved my ass many times
[22:17] <nullboy> saved*
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[22:17] <Soul_keeper> does /proc/net/dev  reset daily ?  or does it only reset on reboot or removal of the nic module ?
[22:17] <nix_chix0r> hazzard prone nullboy ?
[22:17] <agentc0re> nullboy: the superglue doesn't stop the nail regrowth?
[22:17] <nullboy> agentc0re: nope, it will fall off long before that ahppens
[22:18] <nullboy> agentc0re: it just gives the wound a chance to start regeneration
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[22:18] <nix_chix0r> they make an actual glue for cuts and things of that nature that'll be better for a dog than just standard super glue
[22:18] <nix_chix0r> the liquid stich stuff
[22:19] <nullboy> nix_chix0r: that crap glue they sell as real wound glue sucks compared to the normal glue though
[22:19] <dive> yeah wouldn't want him to lick it and get a mouth full of superglue
[22:19] <nullboy> i've used both
[22:19] <nullboy> no no you hold him until it cues
[22:19] <nullboy> cures*
[22:19] <agentc0re> dive, lol.  i think it'd probably cure before then.
[22:19] <dive> hopefully
[22:20] <agentc0re> if not, that'd be a funny vet call.  Ah yeah, my dog's tongue is stuck to his toenail...with superglue.
[22:20] <nullboy> that stuff is great. i've used it on myself many times where stitches should have been done but i was out of medical range
[22:20] <dive> or, 'hi yeah my dog's mouth is stuck to his b&lls with superglue'
[22:21] <nullboy> i just dump alcohol on the wound, let it dry, press the wound edges together and apply glue, hold until set. inst-a-stitch
[22:21] <dive> nice trick
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[22:23] <AzMoo> Anybody have a nice walk-through to install pam on 12.2?
[22:24] <nullboy> muhahahah
[22:24] <dive> ^
[22:24] <chopp> there ya go nullboy ;)
[22:24] <nullboy> here is the basic package changelist http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/pam_integration_12.2.slackbuild
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[22:24] <nullboy> after that you MUST make sure you have a sane pam stack configuration or you will lock yourself out
[22:25] <dive> "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be a one line quit message."
[22:25] <nullboy> actually, after package 10 in that list, you will lock yourself out if you don't have sane rules
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[22:26] <nullboy> AzMoo: that list is just a basic PAM setup too and doesn't mention every single pam capable program
[22:26] <AzMoo> turns out I don't actually need pam. Just the /etc/pam.d directory. Win!
[22:26] <nullboy> AzMoo: vmware?
[22:26] <AzMoo> nullboy: thanks though
[22:26] <AzMoo> yea
[22:26] <nullboy> np
[22:27] <nullboy> you don't want to just go down that road unless you a ready anyway
[22:27] <nullboy> if you're not read up on pam rules you will hate life
[22:27] <nix_chix0r> pam is good nonstick
[22:27] <AzMoo> I've done pam with lfs before so I'm not totally unfamiliar with it, but it's been a while.
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[22:30] <straterra> nix_chix0r: eh?
[22:30] <nix_chix0r> straterra, getting blocked crap when i try to update world
[22:32] <straterra> what blocked crap?
[22:32] <agentc0re> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hIQjrMHTv4
[22:32] <andarius> your world is rejected :P
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[22:34] <straterra> nix_chix0r: BEHOLD
[22:34] <straterra> http://pastebin.com/f77393791
[22:35] <nix_chix0r> goddamnit he deleted my command history
[22:35] <nix_chix0r> >.<
[22:35] <nix_chix0r> straterra, blocked packages
[22:35] <straterra> well..
[22:35] <straterra> pastebin emerge -av --newuse --update --deep world
[22:35] <straterra> the package list and such
[22:35] <nix_chix0r> k
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[22:39] <nix_chix0r> straterra, http://pastebin.ca/1320244
[22:40] <hiptobecubic> are the other #distro channels full of people with their distro built into their nick?
[22:40] <straterra> eh?
[22:40] <nullboy> like Nulbian?
[22:40] <straterra> Jesus christ girl
[22:40] <Khratos> ?
[22:41] <straterra> nix_chix0r: update your shit more often :P
[22:41] <nix_chix0r> i forget!
[22:41] <straterra> Gah
[22:41] <erizoe> I thought i was in #gentoo for a minute
[22:41] <straterra> ok..ok..I can fix this
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[22:41] <edman007> nix_chix0r, you are suppose to have slack on that
[22:41] <nix_chix0r> erizoe, sorry
[22:42] <straterra> nix_chix0r: https://bugs.gentoo.org/234907#c115
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[22:42] <straterra> Follow instructions that start with quickpkg
[22:42] <erizoe> Nix:_chix0r: I'm not complaining =p I'm surprised that's all.
[22:42] <erizoe> I'm no channel nazi
[22:42] <straterra> that will fix the blocks that arent gamin
[22:42] <straterra> as for gamin..
[22:43] <straterra> ok..ill paste the command you need to run
[22:43] <D-r_Flower> hi all,  i need to compile a program, but i must use the option "--sharedstateddir" i never do it. what is the appripriate value for --sharedstatedir?
[22:43] <nix_chix0r> straterra, ? emerge -C sys-libs/ss sys-libs/com_err sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs
[22:43] <straterra> emerge -C gamin && emerge libgamin && emerge gam-server && quickpkg com_err ss e2fsprogs && emerge -uDNf world && emerge -C com_err ss e2fsprogs && emerge e2fsprogs && emerge -uDN world && revdep-rebuild
[22:44] <straterra> nix_chix0r: run that
[22:44] <straterra> it WILL take a while
[22:44] <AzMoo> Anybody know where I can find a list of the different resolutions for the frame buffer and their associated vga codes?
[22:44] <nix_chix0r> omg i'm on the failboat okay
[22:44] <nix_chix0r> thank yous
[22:44] <straterra> It's going to fetch all the source first
[22:44] <nix_chix0r> yeah that's cool
[22:44] <straterra> The reason for this is com_err is needed for wget..so..
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[22:44] <straterra> But yeah..that should fix you up
[22:44] <rob0> /j ##slacktoo
[22:44] <thrice`> openoffice in the list :|
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[22:45] <D-r_Flower> what is the right value for --sharedstatedir, pls
[22:45] <straterra> thrice`: did you see my make.conf?
[22:46] <thrice`> pathetic :>
[22:46] <straterra> LIES
[22:46] <straterra> its amazing
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[22:46] <thrice`> no -funroll-loops or anything :(  I am let down
[22:46] <hiptobecubic> thrice`, what's wrong with OOo? it's fabo
[22:46] <hiptobecubic> SiegeX, ping
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[22:46] <thrice`> hiptobecubic: it takes hours to compile :>
[22:47] <hiptobecubic> thrice`, _that's_ the problem with it?
[22:47] <nix_chix0r> oh man straterra pwnage
[22:48] <straterra> \O/
[22:48] <nix_chix0r> he's all butthurt because i'm upgrading and fixing shit
[22:48] <nix_chix0r> and not showing him how
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[22:49] <nix_chix0r> sulking on the other couch
[22:50] <straterra> heh
[22:50] <straterra> I'm gonna head to bed..good luck with that
[22:50] <nix_chix0r> thank you again
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[22:51] <straterra> NP
[22:51] <hackedhead> AzMoo: google.com/search?q=vga+codes
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[22:51] <nullboy> one of the systems i was working on today had an old version of firefox installed, from the 1.5.* range
[22:51] <nullboy> i think that pwnd it
[22:51] <hackedhead> i miss ff 0.8
[22:52] <hackedhead> when it was tiny and blazing fast
[22:52] <hiptobecubic> hackedhead, ++
[22:53] <straterra> hackedhead: just like my first boyfriend
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[22:53] <nix_chix0r> lol
[22:53] <hackedhead> lmfao
[22:53] <nix_chix0r> go to bed
[22:54] <AzMoo> hackedhead: heh, I was doing all these searches on "framebuffer codes" and so forth, but never actually did "vga codes". I am clearly not a google ninja.
[22:54] <hackedhead> AzMoo: you live and you learn
[22:54] <hackedhead> =]
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[22:56] <Desperado667> Is there a way for me to be able to broadcast my wireless signal without the use of a router in order to connect nearby computers?
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[22:57] <Neo-Zionist> bash-3.1$ Xvfb :1 -screen 1 1280x1024x32
[22:57] <Neo-Zionist> _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
[22:57] <nullboy> Desperado667: can you rephrase or clarify the actual situation?
[22:58] <hiptobecubic> Desperado667, adhoc networking?
[22:58] <nullboy> Desperado667: are you trying to setup an ad-hoc connection between two systems?
[22:58] <nullboy> damn
[22:58] <hiptobecubic> :D
[22:58] <Desperado667> Yes
[22:58] <Desperado667> The word wasn't coming to me
[22:58] <Desperado667> nvm
[22:58] <nullboy> peer to peer instead of infrastructure mode
[22:58] <Desperado667> Now I can google it
[22:59] <Desperado667> I couldn't think of the word and never did it on Linux
[22:59] <D-r_Flower> what is the appropriate value for --sharedstatedir, pls?!
[22:59] <hiptobecubic> iwconfig adhoc
[22:59] <nullboy> Desperado667: the wireless ad-hoc capability varies pretty greatly between drivers too
[22:59] <nullboy> some won't do it all
[23:00] <Desperado667> Alright, thanks for your input
[23:00] <PaddyMac1> Desperado667: I use ad-hoc at home too because I don't have a router.
[23:00] <PaddyMac1> Some distros make it easier than others.
[23:00] <nullboy> i see ad-hoc honeypots setup all the time
[23:00] <hiptobecubic> :P
[23:01] <nullboy> i've seen them at schools and coffee shops around here
[23:01] <PaddyMac1> I finally got my ALSA working again. But the mic still isn't working.
[23:01] <hiptobecubic> PaddyMac1, i've given up on fixing my audio problems. If it beeps when it's supposed to i'm happy.
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[23:05] <PaddyMac1> Well, I'd like to use Linux to record my voice. It works fine on Windows XP.
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[23:05] <PaddyMac1> None of teh GUI tools detect sound at all from my microphone. But the command line program "arecord" detects it and records at least faintly.
[23:06] <PaddyMac1> But I can't blame Slackware. It's been that way on every distro I've tried.
[23:06] <D-r_Flower> use kmix and enable capture
[23:07] <PaddyMac1> D-r_Flower. I've enabled all the settings on kmix with completely failed results.
[23:07] <D-r_Flower> and did  u alsamixer ?
[23:07] <hiptobecubic> PaddyMac1, what card?
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[23:09] <hiptobecubic> PaddyMac1, lspci | grep -i audio
[23:10] <PaddyMac1> 00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[23:10] <amazon10x> isn't there some way to configure a kernel for building my having it do lsmod and just checking off everything being used currently?
[23:11] <PaddyMac1> Yep. Alsamixer reflects the same settings as kmix.
[23:11] <hiptobecubic> PaddyMac1, oh. I have  a different card and similar problems
[23:11] <hiptobecubic> PaddyMac1, have you tried an external mic? that plugs in?
[23:11] <PaddyMac1> Ah.
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[23:12] <PaddyMac1> That's what I am using. It's a headset that plugs into the speaker and and mic jacks on the sound card.
[23:12] <PaddyMac1> It works okay on Windows.
[23:13] <PaddyMac1> So I know teh sound card and the headset are okay.
[23:13] <PaddyMac1> And the sound card is supported by ALSA.
[23:13] <PaddyMac1> But why is it the commandline program works and Krecord or Audacity does not?
[23:13] <hiptobecubic> PaddyMac1, bizarre. Can't help you there.
[23:14] <AzMoo> Where do I set things like resolution and sub-pixel hinting for kdm?
[23:14] <dive> PaddyMac1, does the mike slider in alsamixer have MM at the bottom of it?
[23:15] <PaddyMac1> Right now it does. But I've tried it both ways - muted and not muted. And it is set to record.
[23:16] <dive> press m so it reads 00
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[23:16] <dive> then press up arrow till it's at the top of the green
[23:16] <dive> MM = muted
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[23:19] <dive> right gonna hit the sack, nn
[23:19] <hackedhead> AzMoo: check out Book
[23:19] <hackedhead> .. no
[23:19] <hackedhead> http://www.vcn.bc.ca/~dugan/setting-up-slackware.html
[23:19] <hackedhead> there we go
[23:19] <hackedhead> made for slack 11, but still generally applies
[23:20] <Dominian> who's site is that?
[23:20] <PaddyMac1> Well, SOMETHING is working. Maybe it's a problem with KRec. If I speak into the mic, I don't hear anything, but if I blow across the mic I hear the sound through my speakers. And if I record, it doesn't play ANYTHING back in KRec.
[23:20] <hackedhead> Dominian: no idea, just something nice i found a while back
[23:20] <thumbs> PaddyMac1: Krec is prone to problems like that
[23:20] <thumbs> PaddyMac1: use audacity instead
[23:20] <Dominian> hackedhead: well they link to my blog is why I ask.. and I have NO clue who they are lol
[23:20] <hackedhead> ah
[23:20] <hackedhead> well, that's the internet for ya =]
[23:21] <Dominian> aye
[23:22] <PaddyMac1> thumbs: I've had the same problems in the past with Audacity, but I'll give it another try. I haven't tried it since I've started using Slackware.
[23:22] <PaddyMac1> But not tonight. If I was smarter I'd have been in bed 2 hours ago. Thank God I'm off work tomorrow!
[23:22] <thumbs> PaddyMac1: make sure to unmute the recording levels, and to test with or without digital input
[23:23] <thumbs> PaddyMac1: sometimes, analog works where digital doesn't
[23:23] <thumbs> PaddyMac1: the reverse is true
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[23:23] <PaddyMac1> What's this about digital input?
[23:23] <thumbs> PaddyMac1: on my laptop, I can set the input to digital, or analog.
[23:23] <thumbs> PaddyMac1: one records sound, the other doesnt
[23:24] <PaddyMac1> Where is this setting?
[23:24] <thumbs> in Kmixer
[23:24] <thumbs> err, KMix
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[23:25] <PaddyMac1> In KMix I don't have an option to choose digital or analog.
[23:25] <PaddyMac1> Do you think this is an option that only appeasr if your hardware supports the choice?
[23:26] <thumbs> perhaps.
[23:26] <thumbs> well here, under input, I can either select or unselect digital
[23:27] <firebird619> PaddyMac1: Yes, your hardware needs to support digital for there to be an option to select digital.
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[23:28] <PaddyMac1> In input, my choice are: PCM, Synth, Line, CD, Mic, Aux.
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[23:29] <PaddyMac1> Anyway. I'm going to bed. Thanks everyone for your input.
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[23:34] <hackedhead> anyone know wher ei might find a write up on tackling "fast user switching" for slack?
[23:36] <hiptobecubic> hackedhead, ctrl+alt+f#
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[23:36] <hackedhead> hiptobecubic: i want to actually have several users though
[23:37] <hackedhead> not just spawn extras X sessions
[23:37] <hiptobecubic> hackedhead, login as a different user.
[23:37] <hackedhead> humm
[23:38] <hiptobecubic> hackedhead, multiuser is what linux is alllll about
[23:38] <hackedhead> so say... lock the current X session, drop to tty2 and then login as someone else and startx?
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[23:39] <hiptobecubic> well it depends on the way you call X, but yes. just make sure it calls it on a different tty than the first x session
[23:39] <hackedhead> would that automatically cause X to start on "ctrl+alt+f8" (ie the next open one?
[23:39] <hiptobecubic> hackedhead, usually yes. That what it does for me, anyway.
[23:39] <hackedhead> hmm okay
[23:39] <hackedhead> that's an option
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[23:39] <hackedhead> i guess what i really want is to hide that all behind say.. xdm/slim
[23:40] <hiptobecubic> hmm. not sure there
[23:40] <hiptobecubic> don't use them
[23:40] <hiptobecubic> I don't use them. *
[23:41] <hackedhead> yeah, me either. i gues i really need a primer in how they work
[23:41] <hackedhead> it seems they run their own X session and then spawn new ones for each login?.. at least i hope...
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[23:41] <hiptobecubic> that seems like the most sensible to me
[23:41] <hackedhead> iuno why just using a new tty had not occurred to me, so thanks for that
[23:41] <hackedhead> haha
[23:42] <hiptobecubic> have xdm sitting in it's own thing and just go back to it for login again
[23:42] <AzMoo> Xorg won't accept 1440x900 resolution. It tells me "no mode of this name", however if I leave it at 1280x1024 and change the res within kde (for the user only) it does 1440x900 without a problem.
[23:42] <hackedhead> 0_o
[23:42] <hiptobecubic> But really i have no idea how you'd implement that. I'm still trying to understand iptables, myself. I'll worry about eyecandy some other day.
[23:43] <hackedhead> hiptobecubic: i think it roughly wants to do that anyway, so yeah
[23:43] <hackedhead> iptables are fun!
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[23:44] Action: hackedhead reminisces about network security class
[23:44] <hiptobecubic> hackedhead, i wish. you feel like giving me some lessons :D ?
[23:45] <agentc0re> iptables arent that hard.  If you want help creating them you can use webmin to create rules or if you are looking to create a general firewall iptables based script, alienbob has a generator on his site, as does rworkman now that i think about it.
[23:45] <hiptobecubic> agentc0re, yeah but i'd rather know what's going on. I did install slack to learn how to be a script kiddie :D  I figure i'll try to actually learn something this time around.
[23:45] <hiptobecubic> didn't install*
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[23:46] <agentc0re> you still can learn from using those programs.
[23:46] <hiptobecubic> i have a working firewall script here that i'm reverse engineering... slowly.
[23:47] <hiptobecubic> But i'd like to be able to write one up from scratch if necessary
[23:47] <agentc0re> with webmin it pretty much lists most used options and you select which ones you need, and the script generator would allow to you look at exactly what's going on and how it's happening.
[23:47] <hackedhead> hiptobecubic: really i only used them to set up some interesting toy networks in the school sandbox, so it was an easy environment to test in (being able to see the impact immediately)
[23:47] <hackedhead> but you do get the hang of it after a while
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