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[00:08] robert__ (~robert@c-98-230-230-176.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [00:09] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:10] Ahh working my way through that, thanks guys [00:11] ndiswrapper's a cheap hack - sometimes the only way to get a nice working but have you made sure there no native linux solution? [00:11] s/nice/nic [00:11] trix`G, indeed, I was going to ask what mancha just did :) [00:12] What NIC is this? [00:13] 99% of the time I see someone trying to get ndiswrapper working, it is because they googled and found a million others doing so, without being aware of the native Linux driver. [00:13] at one point in time it was a godsend for broadcom users then nice things started happening [00:14] rob0: oh I'm aware of the acx100 driver for my TI acx111 card but I use ndiswrapper temporarily until I have more time for a more complete setup [00:15] oh, I never had one of those. TI was lousy about that one as I recall. [00:15] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:15] their calculators are ok though [00:15] roccity_ (~roccity_@ip-118-90-104-59.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [00:15] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:15] yeah it's a bit of a pain to setup, but definately possible to run native drivers, once I have more time [00:16] at the moment I am setting up framebuffers and stuff though [00:20] god fbsd has superb documentation. [00:20] Actually in the case of acx100, you might have more features with ndiswrapper. Reverse engineered from the ground up, they lack features as a result. [00:20] no WPA right now according to wiki [00:21] If you're *certain* that you *need* ndiswrapper, a nifty install directive (see modprobe.conf(5)) keyed on the in-kernel driver name would be handy to load ndiswrapper :) [00:22] It's not a "need ndiswrapper", but it might be a legitimate "want" case. [00:22] TI-- [00:22] :) [00:22] anyone know how to change the console font? [00:23] It's also a case of "buy something better next time." [00:23] trix`G, what do you mean by console font? [00:23] trix`G: you you should be able to run pkgtool and set them up from there in the post config option [00:24] pkgtool -> Setup -> setconsolefont [00:24] Grifulkin: the font, in the console [00:24] roccity_: Ahh thank you! [00:24] yeah what roccity_ and rob0 said [00:26] maduser (~kevin@pool-74-101-157-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:26] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: ...you missed the starting gun. [00:28] jumperboy: ha, I remember you from postfix-users and nolisting :) [00:28] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. 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[00:44] they're everywhere [00:45] and chickens are the low-hanging fruit of the carnivore world [00:47] vldmr (~vldmr@187.114.194.97) joined ##slackware. [00:47] trix`G (~trix@CPE-24-209-133-6.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:47] heh, we have an outdoor cat who's leaving mammalian corpses on the porch every morning [00:48] some of them look like rats, which is bothersome, I think maybe from a barn ~0.5km away [00:49] (have never seen live rats around the house/yard) [00:52] spider1010 (~spider101@ip98-179-1-103.om.om.cox.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:54] rob0, LOL [00:55] you've never seen them because kitty is good at her job lol [00:55] Action: dartmouth suspects [00:55] really though if thats an every morning thing, you've got a ferocious feline on your hands [00:56] she does that thinking it'll impress you, btw ;) [01:00] what a fun night. [01:01] sbs` (~sbs`@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:03] it's a cat. cats hunt things [01:10] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: No route to host [01:11] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-102.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [01:15] ferdna (~ferdna@cpe-24-92-114-29.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:15] antiwire, apply that kind of thinking to a woman and see where it gets ya! :P [01:16] *angry, right, and still wrong [01:19] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:24] Lab_Rat (~lab_rat@c-24-23-163-86.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:27] twoshot_ (~twoshot_@katy-dsl-76-164-119-195.consolidated.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:27] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [01:29] chipster, you alive? [01:30] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [01:33] trix`G (~trix@CPE-24-209-133-6.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:35] gm152 (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:36] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [01:39] midoatata (~midoatata@dyn-86-36-42-18.wv.qatar.cmu.edu) joined ##slackware. [01:45] Oak (~silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) joined ##slackware. [01:45] Oak (silas@unaffiliated/alreadygone) left ##slackware. [01:47] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-102.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:47] hmm, using mplayer -vo fbdev blah.avi I can play a video in console, but if I try it with an FLV vid it shows 1 frame then freezes the PC. Using fbdev2 instead of fbdev on the flv and it shows 1 frame and crashes (instead of freezing) with a "DRI failure" error. Anyone know how I can fix this? [01:48] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-57-226.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:50] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [01:53] brainvision (~brainvisi@host128-60-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [01:54] do you have dri enabled in xorg.conf and are you unafflicted by ATI's need to ignore the xorg.conf settings? [02:00] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-1-116.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:01] vldmr (~vldmr@187.114.194.97) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:03] dartmouth: I am not using xorg, which is why I am using fbdev as the video output [02:03] hi men! and girls! [02:04] hi brainvision [02:04] I have a little question to make abou the package names, ikf possible.. [02:04] fire away [02:06] I'm preparing some packages from git version [02:06] so I would like to ask what would the best name for this kind of package.. [02:06] I mean if something like.. [02:07] packagename-version_gitdate-i686-blabla.. [02:07] is good or not.. [02:07] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-46.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [02:09] or maybe must do I use something like ...-versiongitdate-blablabla?? [02:09] please somebody could suggest me the best way? [02:10] Why not use the short sha1 tag? [02:10] sorry? [02:10] Although you can't predict if the tag will increment, so you might want some other thing to know which is newer. [02:11] Each git commit has a hash assigned to it. [02:11] You can pull the short version of that with the git command. [02:11] oh shit.. a little bigger! [02:11] oh, short version.. [02:11] hos does it works? [02:11] how* [02:12] In the directory, run [02:12] git describe --always [02:13] mmm... [02:13] 2 questions [02:13] 1 are you sure that this could be used in a slackbuild? [02:14] What do you mean? [02:14] 2. I'm not sure this is the best way, anyway, sorry.. [02:14] I mean that I have to insert this command in a slackbuild [02:15] What for? [02:15] sorry?? [02:16] maybe I haven't told it before.. [02:16] but I'm preparing some packages.. [02:16] tuxdev_ (~tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:16] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [02:16] so I need to name packages directly by the slackbuild.. [02:17] okay... [02:17] For things from development branches, I have always done the date the package was created. Though I suppose that isn't the most accurate representation, it was easy enough to script in the SlackBuild [02:17] For svn and the like, use the closest release version and the svn revision [02:17] yes MS3FGX I think too! [02:17] For git, you could do similar. [02:17] :) Motoko-chan [02:18] so as I said.. [02:18] Are you trying to *automate* the build of new from source control? [02:18] .....-version_gitdate-blabla [02:18] or [02:18] .......-versiongitdate-blabla.... 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[03:28] mako-sama: yeah some error too many frames in buffer [03:29] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.25.56) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [03:30] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [03:30] mako-sama (~mako@81.22.23.45) joined ##slackware. [03:32] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:38] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@213.37.175.182.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [03:41] midoatata (~midoatata@dyn-86-36-42-18.wv.qatar.cmu.edu) left irc: Quit: midoatata [03:41] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-1-116.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: Deuces. [03:42] trix`G (~trix@CPE-24-209-133-6.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [03:44] trix`G (~trix@CPE-24-209-133-6.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:44] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [03:47] huh .... US government sucks ....with or without Bush ... [03:48] maybe you'd prefer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOTKA0aGI0 [03:49] BlackLinux (~Undergrou@121.54.29.50) joined ##slackware. [03:50] alohahahaha [03:51] hahaha , nice video :) [03:51] :> [03:53] andrew_46 (~andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew-46) joined ##slackware. [03:53] . [03:55] BlackLinux (~Undergrou@121.54.29.50) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [03:57] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-1-116.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:57] BlackLinux (~Undergrou@121.54.29.50) joined ##slackware. [04:02] compiling newest stable DirectFB source failed with error "png_info has no member named 'trans'".. anyone have any idea wtf that means? [04:02] in idirectfbimageprovider_png.c line 656 [04:05] means it don't like your libpng [04:05] [04:05] buzzin (~buzzin@c-67-161-95-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [04:06] mancha: so how do I correct it? [04:06] downgrade libpng? [04:06] that would break things linked against the newer libpng though [04:07] then what should I do? [04:07] I've been at this all night :( [04:09] trix`G: build whatever version of libpng it wants, with --prefix=/usr/local/funkyoldpng or somethign [04:09] right [04:09] how do I figure out what version of libpng it wants? [04:09] i bet 1.2.x [04:10] then when you build directfb, you make it link to the weird version (by way of messing with pkgtool's environment variable, maybe, or by dorking with configure.in, or just ./configure --with-png=/whatever) [04:11] my understanding is 13.1 provides 1.2.x in their package, maybe just a matter of making it pick the right lib to link to? [04:11] PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/funkoldpng/lib/pkgconfig ./configure --whatever [04:12] mancha: well I've been using slapt-get (due to my noobishness), is there a way to use that to downgrade libpng, or how do I do mancha's suggestion of making it pick the right lib? [04:12] hm, pkg-config --list-all shows libpng12 and libpng14 both exist on 13.1, maybe you make a slight edit to directfb's configure script or makefile or whatever [04:13] tell it to use libpng12 instead of libpng [04:13] yes that is my suggestion [04:13] sixforty (~sixforty@pdpc/supporter/active/sixforty) joined ##slackware. [04:13] how do I do that? [04:13] argh [04:13] ./configure --with-png=libpng12? [04:13] you embark on a long quest of discovery to learn how all this stuff works [04:13] no, that won't work [04:14] you have been eaten by a grue [04:14] try again? [y/n] [04:14] unfortunately there's no short answer that doesn't involve me or mancha or whoever actually figuring out how to do it [04:14] and then telling you how [04:15] hey I'm sorry if I'm not smart enough :( I've been at this for hours upon hours, all I want to do is install directfb so I can compile gtk with FB support to run midori in console :-/ [04:15] for now i guess you could --disable-png [04:15] easiest solution that as Urch said doesn't imply work on our part :) [04:15] (hint: how you tell directfb's build process what linpng version to use, is completely dependent on how directfb's build system works... and the build system is part of the source, which you have a copy of already) [04:16] mancha: so ./configure --disable-png right? or is that arguement intended for make [04:17] it would be a configure argument [04:17] sixforty (sixforty@pdpc/supporter/active/sixforty) left ##slackware. [04:17] ./configure --help | less [04:17] /png [04:17] it's not that you're "not smart enough", apologies if I implied that [04:17] neonflux (~neonflux@ip67-152-80-251.z80-152-67.customer.algx.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [04:18] you haven't learned yet, which is different (we can't make you smart, but we can help you learn) [04:18] ok, and that means without png support in directFB when I do compile gtk with directFB support it also wont support png, and hence neither will midori, is that correct? [04:18] anyeays [04:18] what theme could be a compliment for XFCE? [04:19] im planning to install a Compiz [04:19] what do you think? [04:19] Urchlay: Oh no worries I was not offended, I just have no experience with source code, and very little with compiling things directly. I really am trying to learn though [04:20] trix`G: right. so, eh, the first thing to find out might be, is directfb going to be useful at all without png support? [04:21] (since I barely know what directfb even is, I can't answer that...) [04:21] trix, it might be a bit more complex, i am not sure if aside from the lib (which clearly changed) you woyuld have to worry about changed headers [04:22] Urchlay: Well yes, just a bit less so. The end result I am hoping for is graphical web browser in console without Xorg, so the browser wouldn't display png but the rest should still work ok (I hope) [04:22] mancha: oh man I really hope not [04:22] hm, really? you talking about what, elinks? [04:23] trix, the best is to dl the git, they've fixed support for png 1.4 [04:23] midori, hopefully [04:24] mancha: Ah so it was an error on their part? [04:24] ok... doesn't midori also run on X and maybe win32, macosx, a couple other platforms? [04:24] Urchlay: yep, but I don't have the benefit of X, or win32, or macos. I just have this boring commandline console [04:24] with vesafb [04:25] the console isn't boring :) [04:25] sbs` (~sbs`@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) joined ##slackware. [04:25] it was before I got vesafb and mplayer's fbdev output working :) [04:26] oh and mpg123, of course [04:26] without which I would have given up hours ago [04:26] but... my point was... I bet midori's either got its own png-rendering code, or else it uses libpng directly... in other words, it doesn't depend on its display layer having png support (for instance, X doesn't directly support PNGs) [04:26] well yeah, working in silence would suck [04:27] Urchlay: Ahhh! that's a ray of hope! though, if the git version of directfb works with libpng maybe I wont have to find out for sure [04:27] err directfb just finished compiling with no errors (with --disable-png) before I got to the git version, so first I'll try it as-is [04:27] might as well, yah [04:28] when/if you figure out all the issues with directfb, you might consider submitting it to slackbuilds.org (just searched, they don't have a directfb build already) [04:29] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [04:30] Urchlay: well after I get some sleep, sure! Well, also after I do some reading up on how to make a slackbuild [04:30] you're making me remember my crappy old celeron 333 laptop with 16 megs of ram... enough to run mplayer and xmame, but not while running X at the same time [04:30] so much to learn, so little time [04:30] heh [04:30] pac-man on the console [04:30] I'm just kind of a performance junkie [04:30] trix`G: You could point to a different png by altering Makefile: LIBPNG_CFLAGS LIBPNG_CONFIG LIBPNG_LIBS [04:31] if doctor who lags even a little, i'm extremely pissed off [04:31] acidtripper (~gon@190.188.115.210) joined ##slackware. [04:31] hm, just watched a divx rip of the latest dr. who in X, didn't notice any lag :) [04:31] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [04:31] well I do High Def, on a p4 with 512MB RAM [04:32] streaming over wifi with ndiswrapper [04:32] what do you use to stream? [04:32] hm, any lag you get, probably comes from network latency [04:32] I don't do hi-def because I don't have hi-def eyes [04:33] mancha: alluc.org or ninjavideo.net or a private one I like called exportation [04:33] oh, misunderstood. i thought you served the streams [04:33] Urchlay: ah, well, h264 lags horribly in Xorg [04:33] ergh, you're streaming video over the internet? getting rid of X won't likely help you at all [04:34] Urchlay: my connection is very fast, as are most of the servers I recieve from, also I tend to let it buffer quite far before attempting to play [04:34] just use a damn bittorrent and watch it locally, bet you get full framerate with high definition h264 [04:34] acidtripper (~gon@190.188.115.210) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:35] nope, I tried that back before scenetorrents closed down [04:35] acidtripper (~gon@190.188.115.210) joined ##slackware. [04:35] the framerate is the same, once buffered [04:35] also... what do you use for a player? are those sites using flash video? 'cause I doubt an x-less midory will be able to run flash [04:35] acidtripper (~gon@190.188.115.210) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:35] it still downloads the video file locally, just start to finish rather then random peices like bittorrent so you can watch while it's downloading [04:35] ah [04:35] acidtripper (~gon@190.188.115.210) joined ##slackware. [04:36] Urchlay: no it's divx or h264 (for HD) not flash [04:36] ok... was thinking of youtube or hulu style video site [04:36] oh hellno [04:36] Action: trix`G shudders [04:36] a flash player could be used to play divx or h264 I guess [04:36] but I agree with you, flash sucks [04:36] it could, but I just use mplayer [04:36] right [04:37] I'd prefer VLC if I could make it work with fbdev [04:37] does vlc just not support fbdev, or does its fbdev support just not work for you? [04:37] but even with --fbdev VLC gives me an X11 initialization error, which to me makes no sense, since fbdev should not require X11 [04:38] yep [04:38] maybe try compiling vlc with --disable-x or whatever (if it has such an option) [04:39] yeah fixing vlc is definately on my todo list. But, one 12 hours headache problem at a time :) [04:39] another thought. Does vlc have an SDL video output option? SDL can use fbdev (think the one in slackware doesn't support it, you might have to compile your own) [04:39] what do you try something like --vout fb --fbdev=/dev/fb0 ? [04:39] (on vlc, that is) [04:40] --vout fb I never heard of, but I tried --fbdev and --fbdev=/dev/fb0 as per the documentation [04:40] I used to use SDL's fbdev stuff to run a couple emulators on the console that didn't directly support anything but SDL and X for video [04:40] acidtripper (~gon@190.188.115.210) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [04:40] Urchlay: might be worth checking out... tomorrow [04:41] er, SDL or X, I mean (X wasn't required for SDL to work, if you had SDL built to use something other than X) [04:41] acidtripper (~gon@190.188.115.210) joined ##slackware. [04:42] aw what the crap. ./configure --with-gdktarget=directfb on gtk failed with error "DirectFB 0.9.24 or newer required" when I just finished installing 1.4.3 [04:42] look in config.log [04:42] possibly it's looking in the wrong place for directfb [04:43] oh "DirectFB 0.9.24 or newer AND the cairo backend required" [04:43] oh [04:43] possibly I don't have the cairo backend [04:43] only vaguely remember what cairo is for (in my brain I have it stored under "misc library needed by gtk") [04:43] I have cairo 1.8.8 installed [04:44] so I'm back to my original wtf [04:44] cairo does 2d vector graphics [04:44] it is now gtk2's 2d rendering engine [04:44] I bet cairo has multiple backends it can be compiled with, of which directfb is one... and yours was built without directfb support (if it's the one that comes with slackware, it definitely won't have a direcfb backend, as directfb doesn't come with slackware) [04:45] oh yeah that's gotta be it [04:45] so, recompile cairo [04:45] fun fun [04:45] if you're going to be recompiling stuff that comes with slackware, you probably want to go to a slackware mirror and grab the slackbuild from there [04:46] yeah [04:46] make your edits to the slackbuild, that way you end up with a slack package that can be upgraded/downgraded painlessly [04:46] likely it's just a matter of adding --enable-directfb or maybe --with-backends=x11,directfb,whatever to the script [04:48] plee (~kurt@static243-165-183.mimer.net) joined ##slackware. [04:49] heeey [04:49] oh man I'm sorry but I'm too tired to figure out slackbuilds today [04:49] I'm just going to try to compile cairo directly [04:49] im having some problems while watching youtube problems on kde (current) and firefox [04:50] but when i change to xfce all goes fine [04:50] if not, it hangs and i have to kill x [04:50] and see if I can figure out what option to add to the ./configure script to include directFB support [04:50] i never watch youtube problems [04:50] look :P [04:50] watch youtube videos [04:51] im to tired :P 05:48 here [04:51] too^ [04:51] 3:48 here [04:51] any idea why x hang while watching videos in fullscreen [04:51] on kde [04:51] there are issues with full screen things and kde, if memory serves [04:52] i.e. not just ff/flash-player [04:52] mm, but is really anoying [04:52] maybe related to flash too [04:52] i'll have to update it or something like that [04:52] annoying^ [04:52] where would I look to figure out what option to pass the configure script to include directfb support in cairo? the configure script itself? [04:52] well you should not be using anythign less than 10.1 anyways, else some chinese teen is rummaging through your pr0n cache right now [04:53] im using 10.0.45.2 mancha [04:53] not good [04:54] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:54] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. [04:54] --enable-directfb=yes [04:54] i cant remember where it was situated if .firefox/plugins or where [04:54] trix`G: "./configure --help" will show you all the options. You could try "./configure --help | grep fb" to narrow it down [04:54] awesome ty! [04:54] rmielnic (~sadman@141.70.82.221) joined ##slackware. [04:54] mancha, that was for me? [04:55] only if its useful for you too [04:55] maybe necessary im using intel driver which use fb [04:55] popl (~nobody@unaffiliated/popl) joined ##slackware. [04:55] er, add a -i to that grep (in case it shows up as DirectFB instead of directfb) [04:55] v4nelle (~van@79.107.240.26) joined ##slackware. [04:55] InTel_BG (~intel@95.43.20.79) joined ##slackware. [04:56] ok cross fingers and compile [04:57] greetings and salutations, slackers [04:57] maybe I can get this working before the 4CD FF7 soundtrack finishes completely for the fifth time [04:57] acid, my suggestion to not use 10.0.45.2 but 10.1 is not related to the fullscreen issue (it is merely a security concern) but it might fix your issue with kde [04:57] hello popl [04:57] yeah thanks mancha i'll try it tomorrow now im going to bed [04:57] i recommend you fix that asap, the exploits are readily available. [04:58] Action: popl spits in the general direction of metasploit [04:58] i have to study technology of materials, exam on monday :S [04:58] cairo compiled without errors, joy! [04:58] now to try gtk again [04:59] that was a pretty quick compile. do you have like a 24-core boxen or summit? [04:59] are you a rockefeller? [04:59] beside all i like pretty much xfce ;) [04:59] acidtripper (~gon@190.188.115.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [04:59] yay round numbers [04:59] nope I actually have a really slow computer that's running a ton of stuff... [04:59] now you have me worried [04:59] maybe he's got a network of crappy old pentium mmx laptops running distcc :) [05:00] or an xbox farm [05:00] snes farm ftw [05:00] well the gtk ./configure script was successful for the first time, so so far so good [05:00] can only imagine being an xbox farmer. Having to get up at 5AM to milk the damn things, clean up their crap... [05:00] trix`G: The gentoo people use a patch to allow directfb and libpng14 which has just worked for me: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309303 [05:01] trix`G: patch itself here: http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/packages/DirectFB/DirectFB-libpng.patch?rev=1.1;content-type=text%2Fplain [05:01] andrew_46: well I'm a bit past that now, but thank you! Though, I'd personally rather just use the git version of directfb which apparently fixes the issue [05:01] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [05:03] trix`G: If you wrote a slackbuild for somewhere like slackbuilds.org you would need the stable source, but I guess for your own use it does not matter :) [05:03] old macdonald had some xboxes, E-I-E-I-O [05:03] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBAND [05:03] :P [05:05] true [05:05] ::))::))::))::)) [05:05] ^%$^%$ [05:06] crap [05:06] error in compiling gtk [05:06] what this time? [05:07] "Computer Over. Virus = Very Yes" [05:08] gdkdrawable-directfb.c: In function 'gdk_directfb_draw_arc': line 479: error: expected ')' before 'G_GNUC_FUNCTION' [05:08] "Error: Computer Hungry. Insert hamburger in drive A: and press any key when ready" [05:08] what directfb does gtk want/ [05:08] InTel_BG (intel@95.43.20.79) left ##slackware. [05:08] mancha: How do I find that out? [05:10] dunno [05:10] between the version errors, bugs, and PEBKAC errors, this is a freaking nightmare [05:10] but there seems to be some api breakage going on there [05:11] I haven't seen a computer with a floppy drive for a long time :P [05:11] s/for/in/ [05:11] it makes me feel so old :( [05:12] that's because of women [05:12] trix`G: what are you trying to do? [05:12] floppy isn't good enough anymore, must be hard all the time [05:12] popl: compile gtk with directfb support [05:12] popl: did your first computer have a 5 1/4" floppy drive? [05:13] http://www.directfb.org/wiki/index.php/Projects:GTK_on_DirectFB [05:13] have you seen that trix`G? [05:13] or maybe an 8" one (those were just a hair before my time, saw them used but never used them myself) [05:14] Urchlay: Yes. [05:14] my first linux kernel came on a punch card [05:14] Urchlay: It was a 386 [05:14] :P [05:14] Action: popl punches mancha's card. [05:14] :) [05:15] now, now, remember popl to function in society you need to control your impulses... [05:17] aw, you're a young'un [05:17] gastropoda (~mobile@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) joined ##slackware. [05:17] mancha: That's why I go everywhere using my warp drive. [05:17] 386 was incredibly powerful compared to what I started with (6502 running at 1.79MHz, 16K of RAM, cassette drive for storage...) [05:18] and I'm sure we're about to hear from some even crustier old fart who'll tell us tales of getting papercuts from punchcards... [05:18] my boss used to use punchcards [05:18] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-133-114.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [05:18] popl: I was following a similar walkthrough, the requirements on yours are met by following mine though, so either way it seems unrelated to whatever my problem is [05:18] now he's in charge of an XServe running apache, php, and mysql [05:19] which basically means I'm in charge of running the XServe with apache, php, and mysql :P [05:19] sounds familiar [05:19] hah [05:19] but he gets paid more, surely [05:19] well yeah [05:19] he's got the master's degree [05:19] I'm the student assistant [05:19] ain't that always the case, girlfriend *z snap* [05:19] hehe [05:20] at least I don't have to go to all the meetings he has to go to [05:20] he's told me that they devolve into screaming matches quite easily [05:20] eff that [05:20] I had a boss like that. He failed in following my directions for upgrading something or another, because I wrote "tar xvfz whatever-$VERSION.tar.gz" and he literally typed the $VERSION part... and then kept right on typing the next few commands instead of noticing the error message [05:20] meetings are a way to dull the intellect, they were invented to keep the masses under control [05:21] not to mention the breakage from z following f [05:21] you were sabotaging him! [05:21] meetings are a way for the boss to exert his alpha-male status over the office-worker tribe [05:21] huh? "tar xvfz whatever.tar.gz" has always worked for me, for many years [05:22] it will not! [05:22] I just did it [05:22] Urchlay: incorrect. f requires an argument [05:22] holy thunderstorm shaking my house, if I vanish that's what happened :-/ [05:22] adaptr: default is stdout [05:22] yes, the "whatever.tar.gz" is taken as its argument [05:22] isn't it? [05:22] seriously, try it [05:22] popl: hum [05:23] unless the man page is lying to me [05:23] tricky man pages [05:23] the man page isn't telling the full story [05:23] farkin' eh [05:23] foobarz (1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:23] unless it is, and you're skipping over that part [05:23] OK, then something's changed [05:23] stupid manpageses. tricksy manpageses [05:23] einars8 (~einars8@212.93.100.166) joined ##slackware. [05:23] because my unix neurons tell me that would not work before [05:24] it would [05:24] i recall errors! [05:24] it has worked since at least 1995 [05:24] farkin farkin [05:24] the f option in tar is how to specify the file you want to extract, without it, the whatever.tar.gz produces an error [05:24] there are two versions though, right? [05:24] mm the man page doesn't say the argument has to follow f, but then again, the examples all show it last [05:24] one is GNU [05:24] so yes the tar file IS the arguement f requires [05:24] let's split the difference [05:24] AHA! [05:25] i know why.... [05:25] before that, my only unix exposure was creaky old sunos/solaris boxn whose tar didn't gunzip at all... gzip -dc file | tar -xf - [05:25] i always do tar -xvf (ie use a dash) [05:25] with a dash you need it directly before the filename [05:25] the dash req was dropped in '95 ? [05:25] mancha: bundled options are read all at once, then for the ones that require args, the next few args are used in order [05:25] gnu tar, to my knowledge, has never required a - [05:26] oh I misunderstood which semantics you guys were argueing about :0 [05:26] mancha: probably added later but maybe kept for compatibility purposes? [05:26] *kept the original syntax [05:26] maybe so... [05:26] it's always allowed it... IIRC, the "tar xvf" style is ancient BSD, and "tar -xvf" is ancient SysV [05:26] the gnu style used to be "support everything possible" [05:27] this has really altered my internal equilibrium though, i am still working on getting my bearings again. talk about a whopper of a shock and awe urch. don't do that to me again [05:27] Urchlay: the command doesn't require a dash. that's what the man page says. the options do, but this is waived if prefixed with a command (as it has to be). try STARTING with tar f and see how far it gets you [05:27] so tar cf is as valid as tar c -f, but not tar c f, or tar f c [05:27] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.15.122) joined ##slackware. [05:28] adaptr: "tar fx" works [05:28] but not "tar f x" (I wouldn't expect it to) [05:28] Action: popl feels something wet dribbling down his neck, notes that it is brain matter leaking from his ears [05:28] that's not what the *GNU* man page says [05:28] there is no gnu tar man page [05:28] only an info page [05:28] I am looking at it Urchlay [05:28] well I figured out the compile error in gtk, and it wasn't even pebkac [05:28] Urchlay: are yo sure you're using slackware ? [05:28] there is a slackware man page for gnu tar, but it's part of pat's source, not part of the gnu tar source [05:28] the tar manpages were made by someone who based them on info pages [05:28] it's from 1993, apparently [05:28] tar is one of those gnu projects that waged war on man [05:29] apparently libgtk2 deprecated G_GNUC_FUNCTION recently [05:29] mancha: lots of those [05:29] http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-13.1/source/a/tar/tar.1.gz [05:29] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) joined ##slackware. [05:29] well [05:29] trix`G: it's really surprising when pebkac isn't the problem, isn't it? :) [05:29] that's pat's man page (which he likely cribbed from an old version of debian) [05:30] popl: hah yes yes it is, however, today I seem to be encountering an amazing amount of non pebkac bugs and errors [05:30] gnu is the land of "man pages are evil because they weren't invented here, use info instead because it was invented here!" [05:30] go Murphy [05:30] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:30] ok since i default to using a leading dash i will continue to make sure f is my last flag right before the filename. [05:30] trix`G: you're messing with directfb. there be dragons, etc. [05:30] it's too late, at age 92, to change old habits. [05:30] mancha: yeah, it would be damn near impossible... and I'd have a hard time learning to use a - [05:31] actually, when I learned the "tar xvfz whatever.tar.gz" incantation, it was just that: a magic incantation I memorized, with no understanding of details (I didn't know what the xvfz letters were even for, just knew they needed to be there in that order) [05:31] scary how we're slaves to our habits...but alas, it is not ours to question nature's ways... [05:31] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: ...you missed the starting gun. [05:32] oh I beat the dragons, now I'm fighting the titans, and editing the .c files manually... [05:32] with absolutely zero knowledge of programming [05:32] well, you're never too old to start learning :) [05:32] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [05:32] mancha: 0x8? [05:32] lol [05:32] nevermind, my brain is leaking [05:33] you're 58? [05:33] he's 146 [05:33] aka 0x92 [05:33] I didn't think that was feasible :P [05:33] and i'll share the secret to my longevity [05:34] argh, he's getting ready to go into infomercial mode [05:34] I also checked that in bc Urchlay [05:34] :P [05:34] a bottle of vodka each day, 2 packs of cigs, late nights, and plenty of whores. [05:34] mancha: what gender? [05:34] what, no blackjack to go with that? [05:34] always female vodka! [05:34] hehe [05:34] gastropoda (~mobile@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:34] vodka comes in male & female genders? this is news to me [05:34] gaz- (~gaz@cpc4-runc5-2-0-cust424.1-3.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:35] vodko and vodka? vodkus and vodka? [05:35] there's a new version of bind [05:35] it's only a few weeks old [05:35] have you seen those longevity infomercials, like the juicer? [05:36] mancha: My dad bought one of those juicers. [05:36] a long time ago [05:36] mancha: not more than about 3 seconds of one (or however long it takes me to figure out that it's crap and stop trying to watch it) [05:36] does he like it? [05:36] pople, you mean the slackware upgrade? [05:37] no mancha, I mean the actual app from isc.org [05:37] 9.7.1 is the version [05:37] hmm, speaking of infomercials. Do you pronounce "popl" as "popeel"? [05:37] Action: Urchlay has a Weird Al flashback [05:37] popl, have you figured out their versioning system? [05:37] and my father used the juicer a few times then gave it up [05:37] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-133-114.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [05:37] mancha: no, I didn't know it was cryptic [05:37] they seem to have parallel developement and i don't get the jumps in minors [05:38] oh, you mean the huge jumps [05:38] I was wondering about that [05:38] yeah i don't quite get it, but i've not investigated either... [05:38] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:38] mancha: that's because it's quantum parallel development, all the branches are developed in alternate universes, and only the ones that actually work get released in this universe [05:39] pass the weed! [05:39] if it builds, the waveform collapses and we get a release [05:39] yeah [05:39] btw, as soon as they make quantum computers, rsa is toast. [05:39] so is a lot of stuff [05:40] a lot of encryption is... [05:40] mancha: welcome to 1994 [05:40] pretty much all algos anyone knows about (even one-time pads would be questionable...) [05:40] ;P [05:40] but, you'd get a whole new suite of quantum-based algorithms, maybe [05:40] that means we'd have to stop keeping secrets and just be good to one another [05:40] ok I replaced all the deprecated instances of G_GNUC_FUNCTION in gdkdrawable-directfb.c with __FUNCTION__ and am attempting recompile [05:41] I hope I know what I'm doing [05:41] but, probably not [05:41] trix`G: get your camera first [05:41] eh, if I'm buying you a gift that's supposed to be a pleasant surprise, I'm being good to you, yet I need to keep a secret from you... [05:41] trix`G: if a cylon jumps out of your computer take a picture before it frags you [05:42] or a kitten [05:42] that would be awesom [05:42] *awesome [05:42] Action: adaptr returns the Big Boy buttplug he got online for Urchlay #darnit [05:42] hey, cylons are people just like us... wait, damn, that means we're all cylons [05:42] lol [05:42] quantum computing sucks [05:42] if a cylon jumps out of my computer screw a camera I will scream like a child and call Adama [05:42] Urchlay: I just saw this ep of Robot Chicken where that was a plot device [05:42] depends which cylon [05:42] all this technology scares me [05:42] if it's one of the hot female ones, eh, I wouldn't run [05:42] popl: pretty much anything will be a plot device on RC at some point [05:43] i might just go back to my bunker and pull the plug [05:43] adaptr: I don't know whether to laugh or cry. [05:43] the Ken and barbie ones tend to be really abstract [05:43] mancha: The big boy? [05:43] if that damn guy who played Al on Quantum Leap jumped out of my computer, I'd definitely leave... and buy a new computer [05:43] I'd stuff a 1990's virus down his throat [05:43] Al was the leisure suit larry dude? [05:43] yeah [05:43] hah [05:44] "Ziggy says there's a 95% possibility we're all Cylons!" [05:44] if Dean Stockwell jumped out of my computer I'd totally be his wingman [05:44] haha, ziggy, forgot about that puter [05:44] Al got all the ladies. [05:44] I wouldn't trust him (cause I saw him in "Dune", he played Dr. Yueh the traitor) [05:45] he looked like a fashion emergency from an episode of Love Boat [05:45] Urchlay: yes he did! [05:45] Urchlay: but Yueh fashioned the poison tooth [05:45] nope, my guess-a-fix code change did absolutely nothing [05:45] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [05:45] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:45] Urchlay: so he was a traitor to Harkonnen too [05:45] for those who missed it earlier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOTKA0aGI0 [05:46] right, a double traitor is still a traitor [05:47] otoh, given what the harkonnens did to his old lady, no jury would convict him [05:47] Urchlay: yes [05:48] definitely prefer that version of Dune to the skiffy channel made-for-tv one [05:48] yeah [05:49] still wish it were more accurate/faithful to the book [05:51] Herman (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [05:51] aha, my guess-a-fix function wasn't old enough, I tried an older one and it seems to work! [05:51] omg I don't know what the hell i'm doing but it's the right thing! [05:52] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-1-116.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [05:52] hmm, you should make a t-shirt that says that [05:52] Dean Stockwell sang on three Quantum Leap episodes. [05:53] can he carry a tune even? [05:53] Wikipedia lists him as "actor and singer" [05:53] he's probably a crooner [05:54] oh damnit, his brohter is the singer [05:54] *brother [05:54] gastropoda (~mobile@h95-155-239-237.dynamic.se.alltele.net) joined ##slackware. [05:54] OclkdMan (~OclkdMan@78.134.15.122) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:54] http://www.stockwellart.com/ # apparently he's doing the Leonard Nimoy thing, though [05:55] I wonder if his art will include naked obese women. :P [05:56] nimoy's a better singer than shatner at least [05:56] gyroscope (~master@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. 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[06:06] it puts the lotion in ba-ha-sket [06:06] lalala [06:08] now I'm getting a new error when compiling gtk [06:08] grep: /usr/lib/libcairo.la: No such file or directory [06:08] /usr/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libcairo.la: No such file or directory [06:08] Channel flood from trix`G -- kicking [06:08] libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libcairo.la' is not a valid libtool archive [06:08] trix`G kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [06:08] silly [06:09] also, that's a pretty clear error message [06:09] trix`G (~trix@CPE-24-209-133-6.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:09] sorry [06:09] didn't realize 3 lines was flood [06:10] einars8 (einars8@212.93.100.166) left ##slackware. [06:10] jhw (~jhw@p4FC8D9E3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:13] barnabyh (~Barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Disconnecting... [06:15] Barnabyh (~barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[07:22] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [07:24] ooh 64bit wine [07:25] which only runs 64bit apps and is not mature =) [07:26] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-248-249.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [07:26] well yeh, it's just been released [07:27] t0mm13b (~tommieb@unaffiliated/t0mm13b) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:27] i tried running 13.1 in Virtualbox and for the first time it did not work, strange. [07:27] dude, verizon is lame [07:27] there's all these port forwarding rules in my westell router configuration [07:27] presumably set by them [07:27] forwarding 255.255.255.255 to address 0, wtf [07:29] U not have PnP? [07:30] with 13.1 in Vbox i get some malloc error [07:32] If there's a way to disable upnp on this router I can't find it. [07:33] all I can do is uncheck the options to "allow other network users to control wireless broadband router's network features" [07:33] I don't know Westell [07:33] it's a piece of work [07:34] I had a D-link in the past, just worked with minimal setup [07:34] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [07:35] Barnabyh: was the D-link a Verizon-branded model? [07:35] now what I believe is a speedtouch given by ISP for free [07:35] no, straight D-link [07:36] GArik_ (~wesnoth@93-81-220-169.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [07:36] this is total verizon kludge. you can't remember the router password in firefox because the router login page does some weird javascript crap with the password [07:36] for every character you type it shows 3-5 asterisks [07:36] so if you save the password Firefox saves the asterisks [07:36] useless [07:36] oh man. [07:37] I'm getting really good at remembering random passwords :P [07:37] perhaps it's something about encrypting/obfuscating pwds [07:37] but to turn that off you have to log in first [07:37] catch 22 [07:38] no, I looked. there's no way to turn that off. :( [07:39] you can actually edit the configuration file though [07:39] that sounds good [07:39] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:40] it's just that none of it is documented and the whole thing is 114K :/ [07:40] very interesting but a pain to look through [07:41] phrag: I actually tried it a few months ago (it required gcc 4.4 iirc) and the annoying part is really that it will only start 64-bit apps, so not that many at all, but still good news to have it ;-) [07:41] is there a manual somewhere, how to replace preinstalled linux distribution, in the hidden installation partition, on a netbook ? did anyone do his custom installation partition ? [07:42] popl: parhaps an idea to search support pages or google [07:43] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-133-114.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [07:43] Barnabyh: I have found a couple forum posts [07:44] Barnabyh: no conclusive answers though [07:44] my isp once remotely changed my pwd on the router due to a scripting vulnerability [07:44] only found out about it on their forum [07:44] could have at least told people by email [07:44] yeah, really [07:44] they don't tell us anything [07:45] (they == isps) [07:45] after trying for an hour to login as admin :( [07:45] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.188.72) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [07:45] Barnabyh: apparently there is a port on the Westell that is open remotely [07:45] dlafata (~dlafata@dynamic-adsl-78-13-66-107.clienti.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [07:45] Barnabyh: can't close it in the router config [07:45] hmmm [07:46] yeah, it prompts me with an http username/password dialog [07:46] spooky [07:47] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.181.52) joined ##slackware. [07:48] s4lv4d0r (~salvador@200.90.76.193) joined ##slackware. [07:50] nitro25 (~nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:52] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [07:53] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-133-114.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:54] good luck popl [07:55] Barnabyh (~barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:55] haldir (~haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [07:57] leetch (~barnabyh@87-194-91-70.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [07:58] dlafata (~dlafata@dynamic-adsl-78-13-66-107.clienti.tiscali.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [07:58] dlafata (~dlafata@dynamic-adsl-84-221-197-116.clienti.tiscali.it) joined ##slackware. [08:01] jrodger (~jrodger@27.32.19.10) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:08] rmielnic (~sadman@141.70.82.221) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:10] mac- (mac@piwo.pi.net.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:10] hi [08:13] anyone know of any decent GTK web browsers with few or no dependancies that doesn't use webkit? [08:13] preferably one that works with directfb [08:13] or vesafb [08:15] anybody with airoscript installed? [08:17] haldir (~haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [08:20] oxiredo_ro (~dumped@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) joined ##slackware. [08:21] I have problem with Matrox MGA G200, whatever resolustion I set in xorg.conf [08:21] it always run with 1152x864 [08:21] no matter on which color depth [08:21] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [08:21] trix`G: http://chrislord.net/blog/Software/Web/ [08:22] trix`G: search that Wiki. There are a few others. [08:22] They're all pretty ugly. :P [08:22] haldir (~haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:22] why not webkit-gtk based? [08:23] it should run on top of directfb [08:24] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [08:29] njathan (~njathan@203.115.79.192) joined ##slackware. [08:29] xdoctor (~bla@201.78.227.151) joined ##slackware. [08:30] bosth (~ben@85.96.231.230) joined ##slackware. [08:31] test34 (~test34@c-69-244-243-126.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[09:18] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:20] adrien: i'm building webkit now, but it's taking forEVER [09:21] yeah, 40 minutes on my laptop [09:21] but at least, it'll run on gtk/directfb I think [09:22] i really hope so [09:23] trix`G, are you on 13.1 ? [09:24] yeah [09:24] http://connie.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/webkitgtk/ might be quicker :> [09:24] I don't think the prebuilt binaries will work with directfb though [09:24] bosth (~ben@78.185.165.164) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [09:25] Cann0n (~jack@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [09:25] thrice`: I'm already 90 minutes into the compile, I aint giving up now [09:26] lol [09:26] trix`G: what you compiling? [09:26] save yourself another hour and go eat a donut instead [09:26] trix`G: what's your machine? [09:27] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:27] Cann0n: WebKit. adrien: the one doing the compile is a p4 [09:27] but its doing other stuff too [09:27] painful but shouldn't take more than 30 minutes now [09:27] oh [09:27] yeah the high def porn is probably slowing it down [09:27] trix`G: did you -j7+ [09:28] ergh [09:28] s/+/?/ [09:28] Cann0n: nope [09:28] you definitely don't want -j7 or anything like that on a P4, especially if it's doing something else and has limited memory [09:28] el_lobo--d-_-b (~Juan@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) joined ##slackware. [09:28] adrien: I'm just kidding about the porn [09:28] unfortunately [09:28] actually, it it's in a slackbuild, with webkit, you better use 'make -jX || make' [09:29] three linkings happening at the same time and each taking > 250MB of memory... [09:29] metrofox (~metrofox@ppp-248-249.33-151.iol.it) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [09:29] my core2duo can't even do it in 40 minutes, I don' tthink [09:29] yeah well it's only got 512MB RAM so I will stick with default ops [09:30] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:30] my quad-core does webkit-gtk in 10 minutes [09:30] which is also why I bought a quad-core [09:31] i found this PC sitting by the road on trash day [09:31] I don't buy stuff [09:36] Nick change: el_lobo--d-_-b -> juangvp [09:38] oxiredo_ro (~dumped@univ-gw.bh.edu.ro) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:39] burshki (~dcash@2002:442f:ac31:0:21e:65ff:fed1:4a6) joined ##slackware. [09:44] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@h80ad26d3.async.vt.edu) joined ##slackware. [09:46] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [09:47] Aidar-Nagato (~admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[10:09] Nick change: Guest95471 -> aperturefever [10:09] AlexPHtg (~guest@151.65.48.52) joined ##slackware. [10:09] popl (~nobody@unaffiliated/popl) left irc: Quit: http://eff.org/nsa - They're watching you poop. [10:09] gastropoda (~mobile@host-90-235-20-48.mobileonline.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:10] v4nelle (~van@79.107.240.26) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:10] AlexPHtg (~guest@151.65.48.52) left irc: Client Quit [10:12] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [10:14] LSD`: not in inetd.conf it is. [10:14] ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd proftpd [10:14] ponzi: you set the port in proftpd's config iirc, and that defaults to 21 [10:15] ok i'll try it, and confirm it with netstat [10:19] johndee (~id@93-81-69-181.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [10:23] Hi. I'm using Slackware64 and i have followed multilib instructions but im not able to compile 32bit apps with a normal user(ie i can with root). [10:24] that sounds normal [10:25] hm i get configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables (with a normal user) [10:25] are you able to compile 64bit apps as normal user? [10:25] compile & install that is [10:25] did you log out and log back in after installingg multilib? [10:26] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [10:27] sahko: yes and yes :/ [10:27] are you using fakeroot? [10:27] no [10:27] slakmagik (~j@unaffiliated/slakmagik) joined ##slackware. [10:27] i think i ve messed permissions somehow [10:28] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-133-114.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [10:28] then i dont see how you can install any kind of apps as normal user. anyway i dont use multilib. cant help [10:28] i also did ARCH=x86_64 export ARCH [10:28] Aidar-Nagato (admin@77.79.143.218.dynamic.ufanet.ru) left ##slackware. 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[12:14] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [12:18] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: Bang Bang!!!! [12:20] rmielnic_ (~sadman@141.70.82.221) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Now that the football's finished, anybody know if it makes sense to compile Xchat 2.8.8 instead of having the 2.8.6 that came with slack? [12:21] is there anything new/ different? [12:22] is anything new/different really worth it [12:24] Barnabyh, using the slackbuild, it would probably take you less than a minute to find out [12:25] no, quite happy as it is, does everything [12:25] THrice: that's true [12:26] well, the xchat guys thought something was worth releasing a new version - you should trust them :> [12:26] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@h80ad26d3.async.vt.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:26] http://xchat.org/changelog.txt [12:28] hm, yes, I was wondering, read about sec. issues with earlier xchat on Windows, but then of course, that's Windows [12:28] Thnx MS3 [12:30] Actually that one only pertains to 2.8.6 [12:30] For 2.8.8 it's http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=5515 [12:31] thnx for making me look ;) [12:31] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-16-247.kotinet.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:32] aziztcf (~aziztcf@adsl-85-217-16-247.kotinet.com) joined ##slackware. [12:33] haldir (~haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:33] I guess there is really no reason not to upgrade. I can't imagine it takes long to build. [12:34] uva (as@111-240-208-43.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [12:35] I am sure this would have been in 13.1 if it had come out a bit earlier. Could probably just wait on -current to get it to. [12:37] it's very quick to build :> [12:37] have you used slackbuilds before? [12:38] Yes i have, no problem. [12:39] dchmelik (~d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [12:39] slackbuilds are great. [12:40] GArik_ (~wesnoth@93-81-220-169.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:40] dartmouth (~dartmouth@72.95.96.226) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:40] Maybe later this evening, it's getting hot now in here. [12:42] sabayonuser (~sabayonus@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] And I can't decide between xchat, chatzilla, pidgin and irssi. they're all nice in their own way. Guess I'll keep using them all. [12:44] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-133-114.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [12:46] bosth (~ben@78.185.165.164) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:46] Barnabyh: why? [12:47] use mIRC! [12:47] wouerner (~wouerner@187.53.182.87) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:47] sorry, but why what? [12:48] why use all those irc clients [12:48] if i tried epic4 or mirc i'll probably like them too [12:48] well mIRC is windows only [12:48] ah [12:48] you could try Konversation [12:49] ah well, can't bring myself to remove them ;) [12:51] Seriously, I've been using xchat for years but sometimes i like the other ones too, and xchat interface sometimes is a bit awkward to get to the settings. [12:51] I used ChatZilla when I was still on Windows, but that was about it. [12:51] different places fro prefewrences, setting channels etc. [12:52] xchat is ok [12:52] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:52] since i only use KDE i run konversation [12:52] dartmouth (~dartmouth@72.95.96.226) joined ##slackware. [12:52] I guess eventually I'll just use chatzilla for gui and irssi when without [12:53] Pidgin is there anyway for Yahoo mostly [12:53] luckly bitchx is dead [12:54] or you would use that too! [12:54] haha [12:54] real menuse telnet [12:55] Yeah. No Konversation though, no KDE here. [12:55] telnet and irssi or smthin [12:55] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [12:56] irssi seems the most flexible, will have to explore that in more detail. [12:56] i like the skins on their site. [12:57] extensible, if that's the word. [12:57] oh, a troll. [12:58] sabayonuser (~sabayonus@c-24-8-72-236.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:58] ? [12:59] irssi is a command line application. "skins" ? [12:59] Ok, themes [12:59] if you look on their web site you'll see [13:00] yes, I know irssi [13:00] Yeah, I meant themes. [13:01] dartmouth (~dartmouth@72.95.96.226) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:02] I got that black and white theme going on with irssi. [13:03] the default I don't need a theme cause I want it to work theme. [13:03] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [13:04] davi` (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:04] sinuhe (~sinuhe@kaptah.deevans.net) joined ##slackware. [13:05] brainvision (~brainvisi@host128-60-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:07] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [13:08] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [13:13] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:13] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:13] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-244-105.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:18] panzer: that's sensible. most of them are too colourful. [13:18] cybErpunk (davi@unaffiliated/cyberpunk) joined ##slackware. [13:20] Action: Barnabyh is away: Perhaps not busy, but away nevertheless [13:20] brainvision (~brainvisi@host227-20-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [13:20] you're looking for a ban from slackboy ? [13:23] cpuobsessed (~tim@adsl-074-183-121-238.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [13:26] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [13:26] Would encrypting the parts of the whole of the harddrive, with truecrypt, make a linux os more secure somehow while running? [13:26] the parts OR the whole of the harddrive* [13:26] surround1r (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:26] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Client Quit [13:27] surrounder (~surrounde@82-171-65-13.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:27] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.6.254.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [13:27] what if source files don't have a configure? [13:27] bosth (~ben@78.185.165.164) joined ##slackware. [13:27] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [13:27] then type 'make' and see what happens [13:30] dartmouth (~dartmouth@72.95.96.226) joined ##slackware. [13:36] read the README [13:36] Razec (~razec@187.34.19.42) joined ##slackware. [13:37] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:38] Axius (~hi@92.84.6.158) joined ##slackware. [13:39] przemoc (~przemoc@chello089072164150.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [13:39] v4nelle (~van@79.107.240.26) joined ##slackware. [13:40] cpuobsessed: [13:40] maybe it have an autogen.sh [13:40] if it's a git or svn version.. [13:40] or it could have perl makefile or lots of other things [13:41] sure!! [13:41] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [13:41] or it could be magic [13:41] or it couldn't be a source at all! [13:42] could be java [13:42] git was used to get newt [13:43] you usually don't pull source out of git ready to compile [13:43] m3tti (~user@p57B7FDC6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] ah, okay; yes there was an autogen.sh [13:46] i thought slack installs tcl/tk? [13:46] guys which package i need for this? "ImportError: No module named qt" [13:46] only if you want it [13:47] i'm working on compiling partimage for backups [13:47] I won!! [13:47] LOL [13:47] first i need newt, then tcl [13:47] bleh [13:48] tcl is so common.. [13:48] strange you don't have it [13:48] no no, don't give that whole use package manager deal; don't want to do it that way [13:48] prolly 8.5 is installed, newt is asking for 8.4 [13:48] bosth (~ben@78.185.165.164) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [13:52] v4nelle: you need the qt libraries [13:52] they are also on the slack dvd [13:52] sbo rsyncd down ? [13:52] v4nelle: sounds like you are missing PyQt [13:53] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [13:53] cpuobsessed: I have an old package for partimaged in my repository, statically compiled so it may still be OK to use on Slackware 13.1 [13:53] alienBOB, who runs slackbuilds server? [13:53] alienBOB, i have full installl....the app which i try to run wants qt3...and i think slack has 4 [13:54] jeev: rsync on slackbuilds.org works for me [13:54] hmmmmmmmmmmm [13:55] v4nelle: Qt3 is in /extra/kde3-compat/ [13:55] thx :) [13:55] yup, worjks from my west, not my east [13:56] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [13:57] it works but takes a while, sbopkg times out at 10 [13:57] hey, waddayaknow, gsb screwed up compiz. [14:00] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:00] i'm so annoyed at one of my datacenters [14:01] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [14:01] i dunno what to do, i want to abuse all my bandwidth [14:02] http://pastebin.ca/1890559 [14:06] Emeau_ (emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-105-222.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:07] alienBOB, can i have both qt3 and qt4 on same system,right? [14:10] Emeau (emeau@AMontsouris-158-1-22-15.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:12] cpuobsessed (~tim@adsl-074-183-121-238.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:13] hi guys, I'm trying to compile midori and I keep getting this error during make: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined reference to `gdk_pixbuf_new_from_stream' [14:13] anyone know what that means or what I can do about it? [14:14] v4nelle (~van@79.107.240.26) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:14] is there a way to group usergroups together in /etc/group? e.g. being in the group 'dartusergroup' is in plugdev/games/etc? [14:14] or would that cause problems [14:14] or, alternatively, anyone know how to compile Midori without x11 support to sidestep the issue? This PC does not use X [14:15] dartmouth: groups cannot be members of other groups [14:16] adaptr, darn lol...sounds like they dont want you to deviate from that security model lol [14:17] POSIX/Unix does not natively support nested groups. In Slackware, the workaround is copy/paste in group(5). In more complex systems like PAM+LDAP there are other workarounds. [14:17] well, i think i have pam, i just installed gnomeslackbuild ;) [14:17] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [14:17] did you check? I doubt it [14:18] no i haven't; to be honest im finding it difficult to get a 'no beans or balls' breakdown of the structure of gnome and what all it's changed/added on the system. I'm still troubleshooting gnome. [14:19] GSB does not come with PAM [14:19] ah, guess not. [14:19] i dont know why i thought it did [14:19] dartmouth, seems like you would have discovered /var/log/packages/ over the years of your troubles [14:19] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [14:19] thrice`, i have, i just haven't taken the time to go down the list [14:19] thrice`, i dont know anyone with that kind of time [14:20] yes, ls /var/log/packages/*pam* takes hours, who can afford that?? [14:20] HappyNwb (~experimen@ti0125a380-1032.bb.online.no) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:20] dartmouth: read http://gnomeslackbuild.org/configure/#about-compiz . Reading documentation may actually help [14:20] who would assume it's in the form of a package, being so notoriously invasive as it is? [14:21] you think gnome downloads and compiles source on its own ? [14:22] Does anyone know how to get around a version mismatch issue compiling midori against an older gtk-2.10.x rather then 2.20, when make gives this error: [14:22] alienBOB, hey, thanks you refered me to the useless documentation for the 3rd time, I haven't read that in about 10 minutes, thanks [14:22] [36/73] cc_link: _build_/default/midori/main_2.o -> _build_/default/midori/midori [14:22] /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined reference to `gdk_pixbuf_new_from_stream' [14:22] alienBOB, after looking more into it, i think its an issue with the generated configuration files and not compiz [14:23] *wouldn't know [14:24] aperturefever (~shevek@athedsl-196839.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [14:24] dartmouth: I think I will do better just ignoring you [14:24] newyork (~newyork@p5DC93AC3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:25] midoatata (~midoatata@89.211.96.62) joined ##slackware. [14:26] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-1-116.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:26] alienBOB, if there's any doubt, you could always refer to the FAQ: http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs.htm [14:26] gastropoda (~mobile@host-90-235-20-48.mobileonline.telia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 248 seconds [14:27] dartmouth: then if you know where to get your information why do you even bother? ._. [14:27] so nobody has any idea? man after being up all night going through the absolute nightmare that was compiling gtk and webkit this is friggin horrible! [14:27] ok shouldnt have asked this sorry, nvm [14:27] cpuobsessed (~tim@adsl-074-183-121-238.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [14:27] trix`G: you needed to compile gtk? You know Slackware has nearly all gtk libs by default in a full install? [14:28] Roin: Yes but I needed directfb support [14:28] Roin, eh, recurring theme where im referred to documentation that doesn't explain the problem, that've read a couple times and followed, and usually later turns out to be some obscure issue on some tangential package somewhere [14:28] dartmouth: okok, sorry [14:28] thats the nature of the game though, im probably too responsive to it [14:29] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [14:29] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [14:33] No, you're just too dense [14:33] i didn't see that in the pocketpc faq [14:34] but if you saw the answer to my problem im all ears, alienBOB [14:35] Action: dartmouth skims through the doc he was referred to one more time to be sure [14:35] this isn't a compiz issue, because xfce is still using it fine with the same settings; i think this is an issue with the config files that were generated [14:35] dartmouth: you did not give any other information except for "compiz no longer works". How should I know what you tried? [14:35] Are you trying compiz with gnome for instance, ? [14:36] no, my issue is that i get a blank screen loggin' into gnome from gdm with just a mouse cursor; however all my gnome components seem to be working except for the occassional 'no ccmenu found' (gnome-control-center) type error [14:36] gconf-editor seems to be barren, i remember more settings being there [14:37] in one of the channels, someone noticed my compiz had hiccuped in one of my error logs, and assumed that was it, but i dont think so after looking at it more [14:37] Did you install gsb's compiz (it is an optional upgrade from slackware's) ? [14:38] yes i did, and it's working fine in xfce with no change of settings [14:38] its just rebuilt against libgnome, right? [14:38] i also did notice that i do not have the compiz-manager script that was referred to by the gsb documentation [14:39] so my theory is that something went screwy during the net install [14:39] Please don't feed the animal. [14:40] There is the #gsb channel for gnomeslackbuild issues.... that may be the place for better guidance [14:41] Axius (~hi@92.84.6.158) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:41] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-133-114.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [14:41] some 12 year old who listens to you too much is an op in there and i was banned for disagreeing with him about the macrosociological direction of the modern linux community [14:41] hah [14:41] Please use the appropriate channel. [14:42] who is this stump pretending to put words together? [14:43] Once you're removed from here as well, you might have to find another distribution. You fucked up your upgrade dude, reformat and reinstall. [14:43] ISTM that wacky assumptions about the community and how it "should" function are at the heart of dartmouth/cpunches' ability to function well within it. Just an observation, no discussion desired. [14:43] Action: dartmouth agrees, mostly [14:44] s/ability/inability/ of course :) [14:44] Hmm seems like I only build a new firefox the otehr day 3.6.4 and now they are already at 3.6.6 [14:44] rob0, he's a very aggressive, assine troll. [14:44] *asinine [14:44] Action: rworkman is reminded of some old wisdom: "if everyone around you seems to be an asshole, it's probably just you." [14:45] rworkman++ [14:45] lol - 12yo [14:45] byteframe: I'm well aware, thanks. [14:45] Action: dartmouth thinks about the salem witch trials and contemplates more about social psychology and how minor social pathologies synergize and pool [14:45] Action: alienBOB knows that rworkman knows ;-) [14:46] dartmouth: if you have issues with the GSB dev tean *and* the Slackware dev team, what does that indicate? [14:46] "It's just you, or you're a member of Congress." [14:46] alienBOB: :) [14:46] alienBOB, you don't want my thoughts on that. [14:46] chipster: tadgy uses a weird UK language. But, he is a smart guy [14:46] simple. everybody in the world is just wrong [14:47] alienBOB: indeed [14:47] tadgy is a sharp guy [14:47] dartmouth: I still have the IRC PM logs of a year or so ago, I know your thoughts exactly [14:48] Femaq (~Femaq@78.63.176.77) joined ##slackware. [14:48] the 12yo comment by dartmouth was referring to me. [14:48] Femaq (~Femaq@78.63.176.77) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:48] you're right, groups of people who spend 12-14 hours in front of a computer screen and appeal to online social communities of similar interest would have absolutely no bizarre social hangups as an entity [14:49] v4nelle (~van@79.107.240.26) joined ##slackware. [14:50] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Quit: Papaver Somniferum [14:51] sorry, sorry, im being 'wacky' with my observations again, i wouldn't want to use, like, common sense or anything. [14:51] Indeed [14:51] And there it is. Trolls > /dev/null ... I just had the insane idea that I could try the same thing as before and get different results. [14:53] is that sort of like spending the majority of our time doing something wholly inhuman and unnatural and expecting our personalities not to adapt (or maladapt) in similar manners in most instances of that? look inward, buddy. [14:53] tuvok302Lappy (Waffles@clgrtnt3-port-142.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [14:53] Working on Slackware is inhuman? [14:53] Syllopsium (~Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [14:54] How interesting. Lucky for me I am an alien then [14:54] hah :P [14:55] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [14:56] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:56] ill drop it after this: eric, something about me that you haven't realized is that im responsive-- people who are nice to me and collaborative get great feedback. people who are not do not. chipster you should be aware of that as well, as you've witnessed both sides of that. when you were pleasant, all was well, when you were abrasive, i responded. my ignorance is of your authority. [14:57] oh geeze [14:57] guys, how can i figure out if one special package is installed on my system? [14:57] i will bend over backwards for someone who doesn't jump in with weird opinions they've formed to kiss social butt. [14:57] look in /var/log/packages [14:57] ny, browse /var/log/packages [14:57] dartmouth: your real problem is that you shit on the people who are most qualified to help you. [14:57] thanks [14:58] and then try to twist it to be their problem. [14:58] rworkman, i treat everyone as an equal, and some people dont want to be treated as equals. [14:58] But they're not your equals. [14:58] yes. they are. [14:58] some are more equal than others [14:58] :P [14:58] That's just delusional. [14:58] trhodes: indeed :) [14:58] there's the bad precept right there. nail on the head. [14:59] You should go look up Shingoshi on LQ. You two would get along great. [14:59] his only hope is that sufficient number of people who are not familiar with him, will be able to assist him [14:59] I am thinking he is about to get his passport punched out of here. [15:01] I think dartmouth attended a school that was too big on 'every kid is special and deserves an award'... [15:01] tom__ (18831562@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.131.21.98) joined ##slackware. [15:01] The problem is that you cannot prove yourself against someone who is much weaker than yourself. They are in a lose/lose situation. If you are strong and fighting the weak, then if you kill your opponent then you are a scoundrel... if you let him kill you, then you are an idiot. So here is a dilemma which others have suffered before us, and for which as far as I can see there is simply no escape. [15:01] jan__ (~jan@160.21.broadband13.iol.cz) joined ##slackware. [15:01] raela: that is/was pretty much everyone around here. See the "no child left behind" crap [15:02] --Martin Van Creveld [15:02] ...dunning-kruger... [15:02] panzer: yeah, but at least some people see it as crap :P [15:02] nice one there rworkman [15:03] raela: yea. Everyone keeps forgetting not everyone is fit for college. Therefore not everyone needs to go. [15:03] neonflux (~neonflux@ip67-152-80-226.z80-152-67.customer.algx.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:03] ok I am getting off my soap box and going to the pool. Yall have fun. [15:08] wertik_rus (~wertik@95-24-194-163.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. 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[15:45] what's all those away spamming messages lately? [15:45] *with [15:45] must be kids home from school [15:46] adrenaline (~repsol@ip70-171-220-6.tc.ph.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] eduardo (~eduardo@mail.proway.com.br) left irc: Quit: leaving [15:47] lol the away msg was one line, one time, and it generated three complaints, five lines, up to 33 minutes later [15:48] trix`G: clearly, you didn't see what happened the night before. [15:48] s4lv4d0r (~salvador@200.90.76.193) joined ##slackware. [15:48] trix`G: some twat spammed /me is away, /me is back 45 times. [15:49] lol [15:50] yeah that would be annoying [15:50] that's an understatement. He did it every 20-30 minutes [15:51] I hope he was kickbanned [15:51] trix`G: yes. [15:52] newyork: what problem are you trying to solve? [15:53] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:54] brainvision (~brainvisi@host227-20-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:54] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-1-116.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [15:54] adrien, phrag: ok, sorry [15:55] So, I've been trying (for friggin EVER) to get a graphical web browser working in console, with vesafb or directfb or fbdev (/dev/fb0 works). w3m wont compile. midori wont compile. I have directfb and webkit installed fine. [15:55] any suggestions? [15:55] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [15:56] why won't midori compile? any log? how did you compile webkit-gtk? do you have a binary named 'GtkLauncher'? [15:56] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. 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[16:00] trix, you've patched and hacked at too many things, debugging you is too hard now [16:00] the midori error I'm guessing is a version mismatch because I'm using gtk 2.10 instead of 2.20 [16:00] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Client Quit [16:00] mancha: that is possibly true, however I am sooo friggin close [16:00] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) joined ##slackware. [16:01] trix`G: Isn't links good enough in graphical mode? [16:01] wait... links has a graphical mode? *gasp* [16:01] how do I enable that? [16:01] what if you just start out with clean source and run configure so it uses what you have installed? [16:01] trix'G: or how about Dillo [16:01] Skywise: midori IS using clean source [16:01] they all were [16:01] yeah, midori will require more than gtk+2-2.10 [16:01] trix`G: I think it is smth like links -g [16:01] Traveler2 (~traveler@host41-231-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [16:01] hi [16:02] but webkit will compile GtkLauncher which will be enough for tests [16:02] some time since I used it though [16:02] thumbs: basicly i am trying to get my phpmyadmin to work, i did it like explained in 4 tutorials but it wont work. first on "localhost/phpMyAdmin" i became the list of all files. now i become a "no permission"... [16:02] Does slackware become boring after a while with no dependency checking and real package manager ? [16:03] or why not upgrade your gtk+2 ? [16:03] newyork: What does the error log say, exactly? [16:03] Traveler2: if you want a dep checking package manager (and most slackware users dont) just use slapt-get [16:04] adrien: GtkLauncher is a web browser? [16:04] Why not? [16:04] I mean, it does become boring after a while dealing with everything yourself. [16:04] GtkLauncher is webkit-gtk's test browser [16:04] Traveler2: read slackbook, they explain it and save me a lot of typing [16:04] Traveler: you're repeating tired old myths [16:04] it only has scrollbars, an addressbar and that's about it [16:04] Traveler2: that is (obviously) a very frequently asked question [16:05] Yes [16:05] Nick change: bgs000 -> bgs100 [16:05] whoa links -g IS graphical browser! [16:05] holy crap! [16:06] depends what you call a real package manager - pkgtool is a package manager [16:06] I just wasted more then 35 hours of headache and stress! [16:06] AOSDIJOIERQ [16:06] niels_horn: I hate you! [16:06] but thanks! [16:06] trix`G: sorry for that :)) [16:07] bosth (~ben@88.235.242.173) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [16:07] thanks [16:07] trix`G: wait, you never thought of using links -g ? [16:08] I didn't know about links -g! [16:08] years of linux, mostly gentoo, mostly CONSOLE, and I never friggin heard of that! [16:08] ok [16:09] I am so pissed right now! [16:09] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:09] Ha, I had heard of it, but I didn't know that Slackware supported -g out of the box! [16:09] I use it once in a while... [16:09] I just use firefox in X. [16:10] the *g* option can be very useful [16:10] but I'll probably start using that more [16:10] bosth (~ben@78.185.165.164) joined ##slackware. [16:10] depending on the scenario [16:10] Mowah (1000@81-234-104-159-no80.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:10] thumbs: yeah, so useful in fact, that I spent all night editing hundreds of lines of gtk source renaming functions to get midori to work for exactly the same purpose... [16:10] thumbs: yes... when you're in the console, some problem with X, and need to look up something on the internet... [16:10] I was trying to make a bad pun [16:11] thumbs: hehe... I'm kind of slow today :) [16:11] back when links -g was new, it was not supported in Slackware. [16:12] aw links -g is not supported by facebook :( [16:12] still, not one gets it. [16:12] no I got it thumbs [16:12] it just wasn't that funny :-/ [16:12] hehe [16:12] rob0: When was that? I've been using it for some time now. [16:12] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:14] thumbs: right now i have to click the index.php in the phpMyAdmin folder manually, the login fails with the user and password i set in the config.inc.php with no errormessage [16:14] newyork: ah. Ask #phpmyadmin [16:14] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-68-224.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [16:15] okay i will do that, thanks [16:15] newyork: and ##php [16:15] ok, thanks [16:16] Traveler2 (~traveler@host41-231-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Quit: Java user signed off [16:17] links -g is rather spiffy [16:19] v4nelle (~van@79.107.240.26) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:20] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [16:22] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. 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[16:33] yay shell scripts [16:34] yeah forgot about the comments [16:34] dhabyx (~dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [16:35] NaCl: yeah and sh is a soft link to /bin/bash [16:36] /dev/sdh: Timing cached reads: 2 MB in 2.30 seconds = 890.20 kB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 4 MB in 4.63 seconds = 884.59 kB/sec [16:36] :) It's on a SATA-to-USB adapter [16:37] rob0, uhh, looks like a floppy =) [16:37] better than sneakernet [16:40] slysir (~mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:41] http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2549.html <-- RFC2549 IP over Avian Carriers with QOS [16:41] test34 (~test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:41] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.82) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:43] 2549 is for the birds. [16:44] niels_horn: I think links was added around 7.1 or 8.0, and it was initially built as text-mode only. [16:45] Okay, next time I buy one of those thingies I go for eSATA. 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[17:31] 298 users and nothing is interesting enough to discuss [17:32] how do i set up a dual boot of windows 7 and slackware 13.1 [17:32] fdisk and parition one part for slack and another for win7 [17:33] v4nelle (~van@79.107.240.26) joined ##slackware. [17:34] sbs` (~sbs`@unaffiliated/sbs/x-6460670) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [17:34] batmayne, what version of fdisk? can i use the slackware installation program to do that? [17:34] yeah [17:35] when you pop in the install disc you have the opporunity to parition [17:35] ok how big should i set the slack swap partition? [17:36] HappyNwb (~experimen@ti0125a380-1032.bb.online.no) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:36] how much RAM do you how? I usually set it up to the same ammount of RAM I have. [17:36] no, you dont get to partition inside the installer, you should either use cfdisk, fdisk or do it using a live cd or something beforehand [17:37] the installer just mounts already created partitions [17:37] it does on the disc. when you start it up you can use fdisk from the cd [17:37] ive got 581 gigs on the computer and 3 gigs of ram [17:37] birdlives (~birdlives@pool-71-189-218-107.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: No route to host [17:38] 581 gigs on the hard drive [17:39] fhobia (~fhobia@c-67-188-69-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:39] It's your choice on how much you want to allocate each OS to have. [17:39] the installer is when you exec setup [17:39] and that doesnt partition [17:39] birdlives (~birdlives@pool-71-189-218-107.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [17:39] But doesn't it tell you you can parition when you boot from the cd? I remember it giving me a message. [17:40] But I see what you're saying sahko [17:40] heh [17:40] you can cheat [17:41] cheating is against the rules [17:41] then learn fdisk [17:41] |Slacker| (~tanis@189.26.6.254.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:43] Jdif (~Jdif@mon75-3-82-67-194-134.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:45] GArik_ (~wesnoth@93-81-220-169.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:45] I have 3gigs ram and 512mb swap, swap usage rarely goes higher than 128k [17:45] but i think if you want to use hibernate you should have at least 1 gig [17:46] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:46] I don't even have a swap. I do how much RAM because I'm used to using systems with less than 1gb. I forget about some things at times. [17:47] And I'm sleepy. Maybe I should sleep. [17:47] ok nitey nite thanks 4 the help [17:49] birdlives (~birdlives@pool-71-189-218-107.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [17:50] niiite [17:50] Good night sweet prince! [17:50] batmayne (krampus@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-mkzxiaxcfkobnoqv) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:50] dTd (~dTd@d-66-212-210-213.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:51] If you want to hibernate, you should eat a lot in the summer and fall. [17:51] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-68-224.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:52] midoatata (~midoatata@89.211.96.62) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [17:52] midoatata (~midoatata@78.101.20.74) joined ##slackware. [17:52] what would "bob" eat [17:52] besides pureslack [17:52] mercfate (~fate@201-75-89-148-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:53] anyone have zm working in slackware 13? [17:53] zm -> zoneminder [17:54] on* [17:54] lol [17:56] WWBE? We could find out after the excremental meditation. [17:58] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:58] *g* [17:59] to come back to an earlier conversation about xchat 2.8.8 [17:59] it works fine so far but somehow can't get the tray icon to work [17:59] *show up [18:00] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [18:01] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210096104.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:01] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210096104.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Changing host [18:01] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [18:01] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [18:01] AEnima15771 (~clbarnob@h80ad26d3.async.vt.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:02] hitest (~hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:02] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431547.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:02] knnk (~ngworekar@cpe-66-68-104-116.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:02] they've added a few channels and some other stuff, http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=5515 [18:03] Makes no difference for my needs, might as well stay with 2.8.6 [18:04] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-431547.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [18:04] Psykoman (~Psykoman@p5B07382A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] jan (~jan@160.21.broadband13.iol.cz) joined ##slackware. [18:06] Drakevr (~drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:07] fredoslack (~fredoslac@APoitiers-257-1-68-224.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Quitte [18:12] Psykoman (~Psykoman@p5B07382A.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:14] i hope fdisk can give a partition a filesystem that works with windows 7 [18:14] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Quit: ...you missed the starting gun. [18:14] all windows systems use NTFS [18:15] except WIn 95 using FAT [18:15] try cfdisk instead easier [18:16] psuasti_ have you resized your windows 7 partition first? [18:16] no this computer im on is the one im gonna reformat and doublebootify [18:16] bhanson (bhanson@isafailure.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [18:16] Creating/changing a partition does not create/change a filesystem on it, except possibly to make an existing filesystem unusable. [18:17] it will be easier to install windows 7 first [18:17] bhanson (bhanson@isafailure.com) joined ##slackware. [18:22] yes, if win still overwrites the boot record by default [18:23] rafu (~rafu@77.53.11.107) joined ##slackware. [18:23] but it is already installed, right? [18:23] I don't know. My last experiences with physical-machine Windows were Win2K, and that and NT4 did not muck up a MBR. [18:24] otoh, windows first is certainly safe, you can be sure not to muck up the MBR in an OS which gives you control of such things. [18:24] windows install always overwrites mbr, i don't think that's changed [18:25] Maybe it was afraid of me? But no, Win2K/NT4 did not overwrite my MBR. [18:26] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:26] that's interesting [18:26] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [18:26] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [18:26] I've never had the "pleasure" of installing any later Windows version. :) [18:27] now i want to dig out a copy of nt4 [18:27] NT4: because 49.7 days of uptime should be enough for anyone! [18:27] antiwire (~antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [18:27] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [18:28] burshki (dcash@2002:442f:ac31:0:21e:65ff:fed1:4a6) left ##slackware. [18:29] (heh, I have such lousy electrc service, I would be pleased to get to 49.7!) [18:29] byteframe (~byteframe@pool-71-174-1-116.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:30] sounds like you need a larger ups ? [18:30] 1250VA, takes a lot to outlast 2-3 hour outages. [18:31] I need better electric service. [18:31] holy cock [18:32] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-152-73.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:32] cock is holy? since when? [18:32] danc3 (~danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left irc: Quit: There had better be some beer left when I get back! [18:32] I oughta have apcupsd impose some power-saving measures, maybe could stretch my 30-minutes to 45 or more. [18:32] but, it's thunderstorm season, we WILL have multi-hour outages. [18:33] rob0: diesel-powered generator? [18:34] lol; one you can crank up in 30 mins [18:34] rafu (rafu@77.53.11.107) left ##slackware. [18:34] that might help, yeah, but is it worth the money? I just let it shut down and try to do non-electric stuff. [18:34] uh? [18:35] moslery: some of them start up automatically when a power outage occurs [18:35] it certainly doesn't take 30minutes.. [18:35] antiwire: no, it takes usually 30 seconds or less [18:36] hahahaha. our office has one [18:36] the ones i've come across don't start at all when the power goes, outage is so rare they weren't maintained [18:36] the one that the servers were on worked great. the one the AC for the server room was on: no dice. [18:36] soooo. that was an amusing morning at the office. [18:36] moslery: that's a problem, maintenanc is a big thing [18:37] yep [18:37] mugwort13 (~mugwort13@pool-96-244-230-179.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:37] the server room apparently hit well over 120F [18:38] is ext4 really as unstable as people are talking about with data loss and such, or have they fixed those problems? Anyone know? [18:39] its ok [18:39] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [18:39] hackedhead: also, most diesel-powered generators run on natural gas or propane [18:40] jewbacca: yeah, this was nat gas [18:40] hackedhead: yeah, diesel describes the power cycle, not the fuel [18:40] mhmm [18:41] most NYCT busses are natural gas as well [18:41] mohamed_yosry (~my@196.221.79.199) joined ##slackware. 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[19:37] sahko: I want the source I want to compile it for another distro [19:37] the gnome ftp then [19:37] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [19:38] stdc++ != sigc++ [19:38] gniks (~sking@24.238.12.206) joined ##slackware. [19:38] oh, someones got a point [19:38] ckt1g3r (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ckt1g3r) left irc: Quit: Leaving [19:38] where?? [19:39] that would be a gcc lib then [19:40] twanny796: its a gcc lib [19:40] sahko: yes, I don't know why it is so difficult to find the source?? [19:41] gcc.gnu.org doesnt have it? [19:42] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:43] artv61 (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:44] sahko: seems there is only up to v3 on the libstdc++ home page [19:45] http://gcc.gnu.org/libstdc++/ [19:47] artv61 (~art@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [19:48] and you assume that creates .so.3? [19:48] sahko: imho ;) [19:48] Herman (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 258 seconds [19:48] \\||// [19:48] //||\\ [19:49] twanny796: opinions are irrelevant [19:49] bosth (~ben@78.185.165.164) left irc: Read error: No route to host [19:54] alpha__ (alpha@93-45-132-211.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:54] um.. slack has shipped with variations on the libstdc++.so.6 theme since 10.0 [19:55] always part of gcc & has been duplicated in cxxlibs since 11.0 [19:56] xdoctor (~bla@201.79.247.238) joined ##slackware. [19:58] v4nelle (~van@79.107.240.26) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:00] mbohun (~mbohun@202.124.75.205) joined ##slackware. [20:00] usus12jari (~ashe@125.163.49.167) joined ##slackware. [20:01] VeRiTTo (~VeRiTTo@unaffiliated/veritto) joined ##slackware. [20:03] alphageek: ok [20:08] VeRiTTo (VeRiTTo@unaffiliated/veritto) left ##slackware ("Saliendo"). 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[20:48] did u check the man pages [20:48] "-n, --dry-run perform a trial run with no changes made [20:48] same on a dry run and a subsequent real run (barring intentional [20:48] in some areas. Notably, a dry run does not send the actual data [20:48] Channel flood from replay -- kicking [20:48] " [20:48] replay kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [20:48] twanny796 (~twanny@78.133.65.141) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:48] Yes. But I have OCD. [20:49] replay (~replay@pdpc/supporter/student/replay) joined ##slackware. [20:50] DallaRosa (~dalla@y000211.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined ##slackware. [20:52] v4nelle (~van@79.107.240.26) joined ##slackware. [20:54] "I have OCD" does not excuse ignoring the man page [20:55] I didn't ignore it. [20:55] Do you know what OCD is? [20:55] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [20:56] riza (riza@unaffiliated/riza) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [20:56] on screen display? [20:57] obvious cranial deficiency [20:59] ganeshix (~ele@cpe-24-29-44-192.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:59] hello, does anybody know if the slackware project has any plans to change from scim to ibus? As firefox and scim are compiled with different versions of gcc you have firefox hanging every time it opens a new windows/dialog. So I wonder if Pat is thinking of doing anything about it. Either changing to ibus or compiling a gcc4 version of firefox for the distro [21:02] jgeboski (~james@97.72.86.194) joined ##slackware. [21:02] damn, I meant to respond to riza. internet disease! [21:06] Nick change: el_lobo--du_\\b -> el_lobo--d-_-b [21:09] neonflux_ (~neonflux@64.134.229.140) joined ##slackware. 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[22:14] dartmouth (~dartmouth@72.95.96.226) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [22:18] artaud (~Artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Quit: leaving [22:23] dartmouth (~dartmouth@72.95.96.226) joined ##slackware. [22:43] ridout (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:48] Catoptromancy (~Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [22:51] SlidingHorn (~SlidingHo@cpe-76-189-165-41.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:52] phizz (phizz25@bnc1.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:53] hi [22:53] hello [22:53] how can I install redhat LiNUX onto slackware is this possible..... [22:54] phizz: what? [22:54] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) left irc: Quit: brb [22:54] I download redhat linux ISO image file, can I boot this in slackware.. [22:55] phizz: no. [22:55] for the record, I lol'd [22:55] phizz: you can install it as a vbox image, however. [22:55] alphageek: it still is close to a full moon.. was what, last night? :P [22:55] ok do I use rpm to do this?? [22:55] T3slider (~T3slider@unaffiliated/t3slider) joined ##slackware. [22:55] alphageek, I wtf'd...:) [22:55] phizz: no. [22:56] phizz: install virtualbox, read the instructions. [22:56] phizz: what version of slackware are you using? [22:56] ubuntu 10.04 I think [22:56] MrZhi (mrzhi@one.does.not.simply.walk.into.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [22:56] phizz: ah. Ask #ubuntu [22:56] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds [22:56] oh no w8 it is slackware 8 [22:57] phizz: prove it. [22:57] Zetas (zetas@shellium/contributor/zetas) joined ##slackware. [22:57] cat /etc/redhat-release [22:57] phizz: cat /etc/slackware-version [22:57] Slackware 13.0.0 [22:57] busted [22:58] yup, that's 8 [22:58] give or take a few [22:58] phizz, you sound very advanced. have you considered plan9? [22:58] from outerspace? [22:58] no what is plan9 [22:58] good movie btw [22:58] did you know bella lagosi was dead half way through that movie? [22:58] phizz: so install the virtualbox slackbuild, and read the instructions on how to add a guest OS. [22:58] phizz, plan9 is the most sophistocated, advanced operating system in human existence. [22:59] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.90.149) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [22:59] OK then I can install RedHAT onto my slackware?? [22:59] yea [22:59] Action: dartmouth swallows his tongue [22:59] Action: SlidingHorn retrieves it [22:59] Strykar_ (~wakka@122.169.90.149) joined ##slackware. [22:59] careful...you could choke [22:59] phizz, you need virtual box and lots of ram [22:59] phizz: as a guest OS, yes. [22:59] phizz: virtualbox is very easy to use. [22:59] thank you :))) [23:00] Action: dartmouth looks for a cliff to jump off of [23:00] Action: SlidingHorn hands dartmouth a parachute bag packed with dildos & lube [23:00] thumbs, I just checked slackbuild and they don't have the files for 13.0 [23:00] phizz, http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads [23:00] can I put windows 98 cd on here too? [23:00] DallaRosa: no, that's not how the slackbuild works. [23:00] DallaRosa: www.slackbuilds.org [23:00] so slakware is like windows? [23:00] yep [23:00] I just checked there [23:00] LOL this has got to be a collaborative troll [23:01] they have it for 13.1 but not for 13.0 [23:01] I want to make my slackware look like Windows [23:01] so I'd just go to virtualbox.org and get the binary install [23:01] phizz, plan9 is really more the way to go [23:01] troll? is that a WM for slackware? [23:01] doesnt sound very appealing [23:01] phizz, ignore darthmouth, he is just trolling [23:01] DallaRosa: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=virtualbox&sv=13.0 [23:01] they should name it something pretty [23:01] SlidingHorn, the best kind. [23:01] what is the troll? [23:01] liek fairy [23:02] like* [23:02] slackware is very confusing I like REDHAT better I think [23:02] thumbs, ouch, I did the same search and nothing came up. maybe I made a typo or something [23:02] DallaRosa and phizz are collaborative trolls. [23:02] DallaRosa: and for the record, a non-essential slackbuild like that would work fine if you used the 13.1 version. [23:02] phizz: ok..? [23:03] Zetas (zetas@shellium/contributor/zetas) left ##slackware. [23:03] so what is the best linux? slackware seems to suck kinda hard [23:03] thumbs, I know, if it's for myself I think about that but for person who doesn't even know it's version it's easier not to complicate things [23:03] ... wow [23:03] oh wow. Use the OS you're most comfortable in. [23:03] SlidingHorn: stop trolling. [23:03] how do I make my own name for linux?? [23:04] thumbs: isnt' that how you fish for walleye? [23:04] ok, maybe this guys is also messing up [23:04] phizz: can you try to focus on one task at a time? [23:04] SlidingHorn, hard? no. unnecessarily stunted? maybe. if you're unhappy with having to play with everything's guts to get it to work as expected, i would consider ubuntu (its really not that bad now) or maybe debian/gentoo [23:04] but i want to be 733t like arch people [23:04] OK thanks for your help [23:04] Necrosporus (~Xenius@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Quit: Necrosporus [23:04] SlidingHorn, you won't find 733t here [23:05] where can i find 733t? [23:05] SlidingHorn, ##freebsd [23:05] I will ask REDHAT if I can use their name [23:05] i don't wanna pay though. [23:05] SlidingHorn, its free [23:05] _free_bsd [23:05] they were trying to sell me stuff [23:05] no they weren't [23:05] you are lying [23:06] 3 days ago [23:06] jeremym (~jeremym@173-29-173-30.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [23:06] wow, did the short yellow bus just unload? [23:06] it is called OpenBSD because you have to open your wallet He HE [23:06] so is slackware developed by dockers? [23:06] LOL no [23:06] by GNU [23:06] not the pants company, silly...like...longshoremen [23:06] lmao [23:07] sigh. [23:07] Action: SlidingHorn facepalms for thumbs -- he seems frustrated [23:07] OK I installed virtualbox [23:07] ohhhhhhhhhhi like to go swimmin' wit bow-legged-wominsssss [23:08] phizz, start virtualbox and create a new virtual machine [23:08] do I need to install X.org? [23:08] I am using console irssi version [23:08] so you mean you don't have x installed? [23:08] phizz: you need xorg, yes. [23:08] thumbs, man, you should dive into ultimate hitchhiker's guide if you haven't already. [23:08] no it is saying I need X.org [23:08] dartmouth: huh. [23:08] yes [23:09] thumbs, you just seem like you'd enjoy it [23:09] dartmouth: ok. [23:09] phizz: same thing. [23:09] wow is takes up too much hard drive space... I only have 200 mega bites free [23:09] what is better? GDM or Gnome? [23:10] gdm is part of gnome [23:10] then why are they listed separately [23:10] can't fool me, I'm no noob like phizz [23:10] SlidingHorn: you're not much smarter, no. [23:10] because the metapackage maintainers cant get their act together [23:10] ncrypthic (~ncrypthic@118.96.11.122) joined ##slackware. [23:11] dartmouth, how to fix? [23:11] SlidingHorn, silver bullet [23:11] at least their age doesn't seem to be that different [23:11] is there a suppository for that? [23:11] SlidingHorn, yes. slackware. [23:11] DallaRosa: I'm guessing 12 or 13, yes. [23:12] thumbs, this is not #gsb [23:12] i'm 26 -- what's that have to do with it? [23:12] Okay, shellium guys, it was an amusing show. [23:12] Action: dartmouth is 25 [23:12] OK Xorg installed now .... it says ERROR when I start it [23:12] lmao [23:12] :o [23:12] Action: phizz hides [23:13] Action: SlidingHorn runs too [23:13] Action: dartmouth stands his ground [23:13] "Hey let's all go into ##slackware and see what kind of crap we can stir up!" [23:13] at least there was some convo going when we were here...y'all were getting kinda boring [23:13] But it really WAS pretty funny, I will grant you that. [23:13] :) [23:13] thats what i did, rob0. SlidingHorn is that what you thought? [23:13] I'm surprised how civil you guys were :) [23:14] AkiraYB (~FarSeer@201-92-75-192.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:14] we were expecting some abuse [23:14] Nick change: juangvp -> el_lobo--d-_-b [23:14] maybe we should have went to #archlinux for that ;) [23:14] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.229.140) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [23:14] SlidingHorn, no you have to point out mistakes for that here [23:16] god i hate this cigarette roller... [23:16] it only fills half the cig [23:17] neonflux (~neonflux@64.134.229.140) joined ##slackware. [23:17] is it one those push/slide kinda packer types or is it like the actual roller type? [23:17] thumbs: do you use scim? [23:17] darkwurm, Join the producer's irc channel and bitch. [23:17] dartmouth, you're packing it too tight...I had the same issue [23:17] MrZhi, its a push/slide [23:18] dartmouth, tubes? [23:18] hi MLanden [23:18] MLanden, rizla [23:18] yeah, I had that problem those, bottom half is packed, but the top half will just fall out [23:18] i got one of the heavy duty ones w/ the lever...love it [23:18] heya,hitest....how's the late sunsets up there? [23:18] Action: SlidingHorn speaks through a voice box [23:18] lol [23:19] mine is just the opposite, it will only push the baccer like 2/3 of the cig tube, so there is like an inch between the filter and the start of the tobacco fill [23:19] wescotte (~wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:19] so then i just wiggle it it down and twist the ends [23:19] oh that sucks man [23:19] dartmouth, I had that problem if the tobacco was too dry and also when it was packed too tightly [23:19] sucks worse at work, im spending a fortune on tubes, like 30 bucks a month [23:20] yeah its too dry [23:20] i just leave the bags open [23:20] thumbs, I'm having this problem due to scim and firefox being compiled with different version of gcc and I didn't really want recompile FF to use with a virtual machine so I wanted to hear what other people using SCiM had to say about that [23:20] MLanden: a bit overcast today, weather is fairly good. sun isn't setting yet:) how are you? [23:20] dartmouth, just spend the 30-40 on a heavy duty unit and be done with it...faster, better [23:21] SlidingHorn, i already have a heavy duty unit ;) [23:21] Bugz (~Bugz@adsl-75-42-74-150.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [23:21] Grifulkin (~Ryan@cpe-74-70-28-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:21] oh really? [23:21] Action: SlidingHorn winks @ dartmouth [23:21] hitest, relaxing for the night thanks..was watching something about sunsets 'round the 60...mignight sun and all that [23:21] indubitably [23:22] midnight* [23:22] Action: dartmouth dives back into pSX [23:22] Action: dartmouth draws magic [23:23] Bugz (~Bugz@75.42.74.150) joined ##slackware. [23:23] LOL SlidingHorn seriously though-- next troll idea-- build an irc status poster that announces your actions in a video game you're playing on another screen. like junction changes in FFVIII, or kills in ghost in the shell... [23:24] i bet you could pull something like that off with dbus if you could get handles for it in the emulator [23:24] lol -- I was just sayin that I'm a horrible troll...cant even do that correctly [23:24] thats alot of work to annoy people, but, im willing lol [23:24] ViN86 (~ViN86@SYDNEYPACIFIC-ONE-EIGHTY-TWO.MIT.EDU) joined ##slackware. [23:25] DallaRosa: sorry, I don't [23:25] alright...i'm out for now, I'll come back when I actually have slackware questions ;-) [23:25] have a good night guys [23:26] SlidingHorn, actually yeah that would be pretty easy if you had a wrapper for the emulator since most of those use the same mem addresses for values they're working with...remember that :P [23:26] pizzledizzle (~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [23:26] SlidingHorn (SlidingHo@cpe-76-189-165-41.neo.res.rr.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [23:26] phizz (phizz25@bnc1.shellium.org) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). 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