[00:00] reading (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:00] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:00] nah man me too [00:00] 2secs [00:00] bananagun1 (n=bananagu@dsl017-120-237.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [00:01] oh...maybe they fixed the splits earlier by making it just too slow to use, lol [00:02] is there an easy way to change the console screen resolution (slackware 12.2)? [00:02] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:02] change the framebuffer res? [00:03] aceofspades19: Thanks for the pointer, i'll see how this works out for me from now on. [00:03] no problem [00:03] edman007: googling... newb here, don't know much about framebuffer [00:04] bananagun1, when your computer boost you see penguins (or a Tasmanian devil), right? [00:05] vbatts (n=vbatts@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] othermindszine (n=othermin@218.sub-70-192-81.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [00:06] edman007: yeah I see a penguin. (should I use fbset? I'm reading the man page atm) [00:06] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:06] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "hora de dar tchau :))" [00:06] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) joined ##slackware. [00:07] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [00:08] A CNN reported, while interviewing a Marine Sniper, asked, "What you feel when you shoot a terrorist?" The sniper replied "recoil". [00:09] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-231.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [00:09] <3 [00:09] nullboy: And sometimes you don't even feel that. [00:09] lol [00:10] hahah [00:10] You know it's really aggravating when someone approaches you and says, "Did you kill anybody?" [00:10] yeah that's lame [00:11] bananagun1 (n=bananagu@dsl017-120-237.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:11] bananagun1 (n=bananagu@dsl017-120-237.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [00:11] I usually give the stink eye and say, "I dunno, what do you think?" [00:13] vald0r (n=vald0r@stjhnf0131w-142162014114.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:13] nullboy: Oh ya, been meaning to share this with ya. Figured you'd like it. http://kepler.nasa.gov/ed/xo/ [00:15] here it goes [00:15] sweet [00:16] that's awesome [00:16] wow! http://kepler.nasa.gov/media/images/PrimMirrorKepler060811.jpg [00:16] they call that transit detection [00:17] heh, i had fun with that "find an earth like planet" tool. [00:17] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:17] I wish i could be more involved in this kind of stuff. It's really fascinating. [00:19] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] agentc0re, they look scared [00:21] nite all [00:21] like a facehugger is going to pop out and eat them [00:21] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.14.116) left irc: "Leaving" [00:21] nite nachox [00:21] hitest, fail [00:21] lol [00:22] edman007: Heh, they might be seeing multiple reflections of themselfs. [00:22] s/themselfs/themselves [00:23] reading (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [00:23] heh [00:23] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:24] Action: edman007 puts a face hugger under it [00:25] that's one of the most scary scenes ever [00:25] the dinner table in Aliens [00:26] agreed [00:26] classic [00:31] Guest11437 (n=Arirang@pool-74-107-139-210.ptldor.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:31] so I figured out that I could just edit lilo.conf to change my screen resolution to 640x480 (from 1024x768) and then run liloconfig to apply the changes. Is that the best way of changing console resolution? [00:32] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:32] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [00:33] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [00:34] bananagun1: for FB res yes [00:34] it's different for X res [00:35] nullboy: yeah, the section for X res is covered pretty well in the slackbook-2.0 [00:36] awesome [00:36] nullboy: nullboy: sometimes I just need reassurance I'm doing things the "proper" or elegant way :) [00:37] bananagun1, and if you want a res above vesa, you need to use the fb driver for your card, but often that will interfere with the 3d driver (it does with the blob drivers anyways) [00:37] dude you're reading the book [00:37] that's more than most people do [00:37] bananagun1, most people in here are illiterate [00:37] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:37] or they act like they are anyways [00:38] haha well maybe I'll be able to help out others once I get some of this down [00:38] edman007: Haha, no you had it right the first time :P [00:38] Action: edman007 takes FIOS from Motoko-chan [00:38] Action: Motoko-chan busts a cap in edman007 and takes it back [00:38] noo [00:38] Action: edman007 limps to the hospital [00:39] Action: Motoko-chan hugs her 20/5 FiOS [00:39] nice [00:39] dang [00:39] we recent;y got 10/1.5 and we thought we were in tall cotton [00:40] Action: Motoko-chan tosses edman007 a CJ7 [00:40] Verizon is offering 50/50 connections also. [00:40] Action: edman007 beats his laggy firewalled wifi-shit [00:40] Not sure if it's in all areas or not. [00:40] Motoko-chan, uhh...thanks [00:40] wow [00:41] Sorry, just got done watching CJ7. [00:41] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-231.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Audios Crazy People." [00:41] Cute movie. [00:41] Action: edman007 must sleep...must finish report [00:41] Motoko-chan, you want to write up this report for me? [00:42] Do you really want me to? [00:42] Think about it. [00:43] don't do it man [00:43] Motoko-chan, its a group project, you can't do worse than the people in my group [00:43] Do it, do it! [00:43] and besides, the prof is grading easy... [00:43] one of my buddies had a girl write his homework once and she sabotaged it. [00:43] Action: Motoko-chan will toss in fangirl Japanese [00:43] haha [00:43] he got saturday school for it [00:43] lol [00:43] once upon a time in a land far far away... there was this penguin ;) [00:43] haha [00:44] BTW, tuz needs to loose weight [00:44] never let a girl write your homework. that's a rule for men [00:44] skibur_ (n=skibur@12.197.205.236) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [00:44] lol [00:44] you'll get owned [00:44] but the penguin had a dream it turned in to a Tasmanian devil. [00:44] "And, like, this hydrogen atom got it on with this helium atom. Sugoi!" [00:44] girls are less likely to get spelling errors thoguh [00:44] hahaha [00:44] ^^^ [00:44] agentc0re, but he is twice as big, and therefore i only get 6 tuzes, i'm mad [00:45] nullboy, and if its hand written it looks better [00:45] how many are you supposed to get? 8? 12? [00:45] mordy_, over 9000 [00:45] lol [00:45] KAABOOO!!!!!! [00:45] 1.21 gigatux [00:45] lol [00:45] i'm glad i'm not using the new kernel. i love tux [00:46] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] nullboy, I think a more important rule is to never ask a stranger on IRC to write your homework. [00:46] i haz trust [00:46] hahaha [00:46] DoNoBaN (i=1000@62-87-77-208.red-acceso.airtel.net) left irc: "Bye" [00:46] It's very misplaced. [00:46] lack of sleep will do that... [00:46] damn bluetooth mouse is blinking all red at me again [00:46] Let a lone a stranger on IRC that is a girl. ;) [00:46] nite [00:47] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:47] it uses up 2 AAAs every month [00:47] nullboy: ick. [00:47] nullboy, its not rechargeable? [00:47] get some rechargeable ones. [00:47] it's a battery eater but i do like this mouse [00:47] yeah [00:47] agentc0re, there are no women on the Internet. [00:47] And all the little boys are FBI agents. [00:47] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) joined ##slackware. [00:47] Or that creepy host from To Catch a Predator. [00:48] he is FBI, he just does not know it [00:48] "Hey, do you want some lemonade?" [00:48] http://www.lifeisajoke.com/Pictures/backtothekitchen.jpg [00:48] Action: edman007 offers Motoko-chan a good time [00:48] Well you all know what the best thing about 29 years is... [00:48] er, year olds [00:48] nullboy, hahahaha [00:49] there are 20 of em! [00:49] agentc0re: tell us! [00:49] 29 years? That's how long the sentences are now? [00:49] i won, i beat him [00:49] Guest11437 (n=Arirang@pool-74-107-139-210.ptldor.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Connection timed out [00:49] lmao [00:49] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:49] nullboy: there's 20 of them. [00:49] lmao [00:49] agentc0re, too slow, can't even finish your own joke [00:50] Action: Motoko-chan goes to the kitchen to make some rice. Yum! [00:50] i was too busy laughing at the picture nullboy posted and my wife got mad at me. [00:50] i have a rice cooker now [00:50] lol [00:50] agentc0re: busted [00:50] Action: Motoko-chan has one too [00:50] I just instinctively replied. haha [00:50] I was looking at one of those huge 50 cup warmers. [00:50] Way too big for my needs. [00:50] However, it was really shiny. [00:50] i barely need 1 cup of rice at a time [00:51] 1 cup uncooked lasts me 2 days [00:51] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [00:51] http://www.cpapc.com/store/images/RW10208.jpg [00:51] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXi8WmQ_WM&feature=PlayList&p=6B04A167071BE39A&index=1 [00:51] Motoko-chan, new tools huh? [00:51] well start cooking, get off the internet\ [00:52] antler (n=antler@S0106000129d4e75b.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:52] quote from the link above, "Women are only good for 3 things. Cooking, cleaning and vagina." LMAO [00:52] edman007: HAHA [00:52] edman007, nah. [00:52] Like I said, it's overkill. [00:52] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Client Quit [00:52] edman007: It's all fun and games, until she doesn't cook. [00:53] lol [00:55] That song i posted is so awesome. I think i watched it everyday for like a week straight laughing my ass off. He has a lot of other awesome videos too, like pedophile beard and rapist glasses. [00:55] Wow. This oven has a catalytic converter... [00:55] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [00:55] Motoko-chan, but i don't see the food [00:55] Go to Subway. [00:55] :( [00:56] They have those ovens there. [00:56] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [00:56] Motoko-chan, which one are you working at right now? [00:56] mmmmm subway sub sauce [00:56] I'm not working at one. [00:56] Action: Motoko-chan works in a very high-tech environment [00:57] Quiznos? [00:57] lol [00:57] No... [00:57] cHiOs (n=chio@adsl-75-44-42-65.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:59] ang (n=ang@ip68-14-156-189.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: "Client exiting" [00:59] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [01:01] DeeeeP (i=1003@81.193.101.204) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:01] dngr (n=dngr@112.118.130.165) joined ##slackware. [01:01] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [01:03] DeeeeP (i=1003@bl8-148-206.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [01:03] anyone have a suggestion for a linux friendly portable mp3 player? [01:04] maybe something that can accept micro SD [01:04] Sandisk Sansa. [01:04] I have a 1gb Sansa Express. Works great. [01:04] nice thanks [01:04] Even understands UTF-8 tags. [01:04] Although I've been using my Android-based G1 more. [01:06] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:06] that's way too highend for me [01:07] I love my G1. [01:07] It's a really good little device. [01:07] i had an ipod mini but it died in a car crash [01:07] it flew off the seat and hit the windshield at mach 3.5 [01:07] http://chipchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/sansaexpress.jpg [01:08] Not the best thing for cars, the Sansa Express. [01:08] Great for outdoor stuff. [01:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGXdXcpNsv4 [01:08] It even has an FM tuner [01:09] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [01:09] can anyone tellme why is dht is always off in ktorrent?? [01:10] even when I've got it set to on [01:10] i think it depends on the torrent and the seeds [01:10] but i've noticed the same thing [01:11] I know in opensuse they're using some sort of patch to disable it [01:11] i haven't noticed any bad things from that though [01:12] but is this the same case with slackware? [01:12] ttyX: you can always rebuild it, apply the patches yourself and rebuild if you want to test it [01:12] maybe a slackbuild [01:12] yeah, just integrate that patching into the stock slackbuild [01:13] I have to say, Mandriva is quite responsive to things in their bugtracker. I posted in their bugtracker about a bug in an older version of a package they were using. Two hours later, the new version was packaged and being distributed to mirrors. [01:13] it's not too hard, all of kde has a build environment in the slackware sources [01:13] just read all the scripts and it will make sense [01:14] Action: Motoko-chan nods in agreement with nullboy [01:16] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [01:16] bananagun1 (n=bananagu@dsl017-120-237.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:18] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Connection timed out [01:20] cHiOs (n=chio@adsl-75-44-42-65.dsl.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:22] jescis (n=jescis@98.80.18.57) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:23] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-136-31.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:23] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [01:24] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-136-31.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [01:24] bananagun1 (n=bananagu@175-246.178-72.bham.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:26] this is awesome, sort of 7th grade bio-ish but cool http://www.hulu.com/watch/63314/origins-of-life [01:30] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:31] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:34] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [01:36] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@C-59-100-83-93.bri.connect.net.au) left irc: "Wow! What a great client! Bersirc 2.2 [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ]" [01:38] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3087.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:40] bananagun1 (n=bananagu@175-246.178-72.bham.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:41] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.244.236) left irc: "Saliendo" [01:42] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "if i pop smoke and my nutts catch fire please put me out :|" [01:43] ttyX (i=1000@115.108.13.72) left irc: "Lost terminal" [01:45] holy crap the octopus takes the crab [01:48] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.252.138.133) left irc: "leaving" [01:51] nullboy, no, this is what a crab can do -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rzt_Ikp5EE [01:52] holy crap [01:52] got sucked into a cavitation [01:52] wtf was sucking so hard? [01:53] it looks like a cutting saw and a pipe [01:53] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [01:53] nullboy, its an under sea oil pipe, so they run it at negative pressure so leaks like that don't cause environmental problems [01:53] that video is them repairing the leak [01:53] dang [01:54] Mr Crab was investigating and got a bit close [01:56] i had a girlfriend who had tarantulas [01:56] those things would get huge [01:57] nullboy, her -> http://cleffairy.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/aids.jpg [01:58] ? [01:58] dude srsly. the first time i saw that she immediately pop into my head [01:58] it was freaky [01:58] jesus... PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND [01:58] 2672 root 20 0 3304 1968 652 R 99 0.0 10:37.60 mount.ntfs-3g [01:59] antler: oh i see you started working out [01:59] hiptobecubic (n=john@129.171.233.77) joined ##slackware. [01:59] wtf [01:59] lol [01:59] 99% cpu [01:59] antler, you let windows too close [01:59] someone grab the smores kit [02:01] fsck it... gotta convert each ntfs partition over. this is insane [02:01] antler, i knew there was a reason i don't use NTFA [02:01] try pulling a newer ntfs-3g [02:01] *NTFS [02:01] Action: edman007 would get a backtrace [02:01] nullboy: this is the one from -current [02:01] ...so outdated [02:02] hehe [02:02] Action: edman007 needs sleep [02:03] Action: edman007 needs report done [02:03] http://www.ntfs-3g.org/releases.html [02:03] current uses ntfs-3g-2009.2.1-i486-1 [02:03] antler: maybe it's a known fixed issue [02:04] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-216-76.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:04] nullboy: yeah, i'll compile it after i eat my ramyen :D [02:04] ty :) [02:05] antler: if it fixes the problem you might want to let Pat or the dev team guys know [02:07] yeah [02:10] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.11) left irc: "Leaving." [02:10] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.11) joined ##slackware. [02:12] What other hardware problems can cause segmentation faults other then bad ram? [02:12] bugs [02:13] frullet, usually a seg fault is a software bug [02:13] basically it happens whenever a program attempts to use ram its not allowed to [02:13] there is ntfs-3g-2009.3.1 [02:14] frullet: if you changed glibc-so you might see that if you don't recompile certain things [02:15] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [02:15] trabble (n=big@adsl-71-134-230-39.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:16] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-175-158.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:17] jescis (n=jescis@98.80.18.57) joined ##slackware. [02:17] hello, i'm having a major problem. I can't open up a virtual console(ctrl-alt-f1 to ctrl-alt-f8). My system won't boot to x and I need to get into the console but can't, any suggestions? [02:17] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:18] what does it boot to? [02:18] edman007, nullboy: Its definetly hardware based, seeing as i generally get them at different points in the compile stage of my kernel [02:18] frullet: have you memtest'd the system yet? [02:18] nullboy: it boots to where it displays the dmesg stuff then it gets stuck [02:18] trabble: where does it get stuck? what does it say? [02:19] tell us everything you know [02:19] talk like 15 year old girl [02:19] nullboy: I have swapped out the ram twice, still getting segfaults but no i have not mem-tested the system yet [02:19] frullet: do you have any addin cards using DMA? [02:20] disable everything that you possibly can [02:20] if it stops, start re-enabling components until it starts again [02:21] nullboy: the last thing i did was add this into rc.local "wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf"...and that's it. Now it won't boot and it gets stuck saying "trying to associate with 00:12:34:etc(my AP)"... [02:21] nullboy: only addin card i have in the system is an old nvidia 6600 [02:21] trabble: you don't need to do that. the stock networking scripts support wpa_supplicant [02:22] nullboy: yes I know that but it didn't work out for me so I had to manually do it myself [02:22] trabble: boot the system and at the lilo prompt enter 1 after the kernel name. you will boot into single user mode [02:22] nullboy: ok i'll try that [02:22] trabble: what do you mean it didn't work? [02:23] nullboy: But i will remove it now and try to again, ill keep you informed [02:23] you have to edit rc.inet1.conf to enable wpa_supplicant and then edit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf [02:23] nullboy: yes yes but like i said, it didn't work out. the problem now is that I'm trying to start back up my system so I can get rid of that line in rc.local [02:24] Is there a way to display two pages side-by-side in xpdf? [02:24] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h141n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [02:24] trabble: when you boot, do you see the Slackware logo or do you just get a lilo prompt? [02:25] nullboy: i get a lilo prompt but it automatically gets to the dmesg part and I can't access lilo [02:25] :\ wtf? [02:25] you edited lilo.conf already? [02:25] are you even running slackware? [02:25] nullboy: no i can't [02:25] yes [02:25] by default there is a long timeout for lilo [02:26] what changed it? [02:26] yes [02:26] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:27] the thing is, before my system took a very very long time to boot to x and during the lilo part, it kept displaying this "..........................................................." then I remembered editing lilo and changed the timeout to 0 i think. Is it all over for me? I'm so worried lol. [02:27] nullboy: the CPU was overheating, causing the segfaults [02:28] frullet: dang [02:28] strankan (n=strankan@c-2bcd70d5.182-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [02:28] trabble: if you can't gain access to lilo by bashing on the tab key during boot up you need to use the install disks to boot and fix the system [02:29] sometimes you can mash on the tab key and catch lilo before it loads the kernel. if that won't work you are stuck using a boot disk [02:29] can i just hold it? [02:30] just start tapping as soon as the bios finishes loading [02:30] aha i'm holding it and it won't even get into lilo aha [02:30] right before you expect slackware to load, be hitting tab [02:31] yes i think i got it [02:31] it prompts for "boot:" [02:31] enter 1? [02:31] trabble, you said it got to where it tries to associate with your AP, how long did you wait? [02:31] tank-man: i waited for 10 minutes and it still stuck there [02:31] ok [02:31] thought you might have just waited like 10 seconds [02:32] trabble: enter the kernel name and follow it with a 1 [02:32] boot: Linux 1 [02:32] ok [02:32] that should boot single usermode [02:33] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [02:37] got it [02:37] nullboy: right on [02:37] trabble: use this later [02:37] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11337 [02:38] ahhahah my ID number 1337 [02:38] that's right bishes [02:38] ... [02:38] That's lame. [02:38] Lamer than FDR's legs. [02:38] you all just received a 1337 slackadelic pastebin from me [02:38] how does that feel? [02:38] Like a frat boy puking down my shirt? [02:38] dang. [02:38] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h141n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "Leaving" [02:39] way too vivid lady [02:39] Luckily there were no fraternities where I got my degree. [02:40] And you asked for it. [02:41] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-69-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left ##slackware. [02:41] nullboy: the link that you gave me...I did all of that but it just won't work for me. I got a broadcom bcm4306 chipset. I installed ndiswrapper and I'm using bcmw15 windows driver. Anyway, in order to get my wireless working, I had to put a few commands into rc.local [02:41] Philadelphia (i=bono@118.160.160.120) joined ##slackware. [02:41] ugh [02:41] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-175-158.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:41] i don't have a need for ndis wrapper so i don't know much about integrating that [02:42] yea that's the confusing part [02:42] What's there to integrate? Compile, load driver, stick a few lines in /etc/modprobe.d/ [02:42] ccfreak2k: like i said....i don't need it so i don't know it [02:42] If at all possible, you should use b43 instead. [02:42] i use intel and atheros chipsets [02:42] ccfreak2k: doesn't work for me [02:42] ccfreak2k: i had to black list that [02:42] b43 works decently well if you make sure you have the right firmware version. [02:43] Check syslog to see what happens [02:44] is it safe to run wpa_supplicant in the background? [02:44] wpa_supplicant -B? [02:44] sure [02:45] just make sure you kill and currently running instances that are using the interface you need to use [02:45] any* [02:45] alright [02:51] mikk0 (n=mikk01@DCCXLIX.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:53] anyway my network is up and running. All I did was install ndiswrapper including driver, configure rc.inet1.conf and wpa_supplicant.conf, and add a few lines into rc.local. And that took me 3 days to figure out lol. [02:53] excellent [02:56] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-203-128.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [02:58] uva (i=bono@118-160-160-120.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:00] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.95.86) left irc: "gnite" [03:05] trabble (n=big@adsl-71-134-230-39.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [03:12] Byers (n=Tulimaq@84-50-128-139-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee) joined ##slackware. [03:15] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) joined ##slackware. [03:15] any stock app on 12.1 to make visual diagrams.. like for state base protocols and stuff [03:16] bit like ms visio [03:16] yeah [03:16] hello, im trying to install slack on eee pc 900 from network, So i booted from usb but looks like nic driver is missing .. any idea where i can get it ? [03:16] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [03:17] nullboy, was that directed at me [03:18] yeah i think it was called kivio [03:18] http://www.koffice.org/kivio/ [03:19] i don't seem to have it [03:21] Knightingale: try this then http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/graphics/dia/ [03:22] http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [03:22] for 12.1 http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.1/graphics/dia/ [03:23] cheers [03:25] mornin [03:25] o/ [03:25] \o [03:27] hms [03:31] grazymax (n=grazymax@79.23.4.41) joined ##slackware. [03:32] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [03:34] greetings [03:34] The-Croupier: Hello. How are you? [03:35] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [03:36] hiptobecubic (n=john@129.171.233.77) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [03:40] http://www.theonion.com/content/video/manufacturer_recalls_hollow_point [03:41] omfg i'm crying [03:42] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. 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[03:48] chopp: that's the thing though, the 2.6.29 changelog says that master is enabled throughout the kernel now [03:49] not according to /drivers/net/wireless/ath5k/base.c its not [03:49] the changelog is wrong then [03:50] i bet we have to wait until .30 when they fix ext4 too [03:50] yes probably, man I hate the waiting game. [03:51] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-17-136-31.client.mchsi.com) left ##slackware ("Good Bye."). [03:52] ultimately that's better though [03:52] it will give the userspace stuff time to play API catch up [03:52] has anyone ever had an issue where they open a new terminal, type 'ls' and it just hangs? [03:52] no errors? [03:52] but not all the time? [03:53] no, but i'd check your disk with smartd and maybe fsck/badblocks [03:53] this stuff is out of my league, but hey, I try anyway. :) [03:53] chopp: right now it's a mess between libnl, hostapd, and the kernel [03:54] yes I've come to understand that. [03:54] nullboy: look here: http://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless&m=123438896928519&w=2 [03:55] thats what I compared the base.c in 2.6.29 too, just so you know. [03:56] taquito (i=1000@adsl-75-22-56-2.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "User disconnected" [03:56] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:57] dartmouth: can't say as I have. [03:57] nullboy: i guess the one from -current has issues, the one from the link you posted doesn't seem schizo so far. thanks for the suggestion :) [03:58] ntfs-3g ^^ [03:58] Byers (n=Tulimaq@84-50-128-139-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee) left ##slackware. [03:59] it's just the process [03:59] that is so weird [03:59] my thunar does it too whenever it happens [04:00] howdy, chopp :) [04:00] antler: nice! [04:00] hey antler whats shakin [04:01] chopp: do you really want to know? :P [04:02] probably not...no wait..NO [04:03] chopp: hehe [04:07] ruben23 (n=IT-ADMIN@124.107.3.178) joined ##slackware. [04:07] hi is openssh v.5 supported by slackware...? [04:09] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:09] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:10] 12.2 uses openssh-5.1p1-i486-1 [04:11] looks like it might be time for a new patches entry hmm [04:15] nullboy:how do i upgrade my openssh v4 to openssh v5 [04:16] do i have to uninstall the package and install it from source.. [04:16] you can try to just modify the slackware ssh build script for the version of slackware you run [04:17] then build the package and upgradepkg it [04:17] what version of slackware? [04:19] slack v11 [04:19] esom (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [04:19] get it from the slackware 11 patches [04:20] get this and use upgradepkg http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-11.0/patches/packages/openssh-5.1p1-i486-1_slack11.0.tgz [04:20] that's the official slackware upgrade patch for 11 [04:21] nullboy:thanks [04:21] you might need to do something like this, not sure: upgradepkg openssh-4.4p1-i486-1.tgz%openssh-5.1p1-i486-1_slack11.0.tgz [04:22] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:22] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:22] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [04:23] ruben23: you should probably apply all of those patches [04:23] same method, use upgradepkg [04:23] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [04:23] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [04:23] nullboy:ok copy [04:24] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn69.78-99-209.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [04:26] Stutteringmatt (n=tr0nd@mail.vaggeryd.se) joined ##slackware. [04:27] Stutteringmatt (n=tr0nd@mail.vaggeryd.se) left irc: Client Quit [04:29] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:30] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:31] oh lawd [04:31] "When upgrading OpenSSH, it is VERY IMPORTANT to also upgrade OpenSSL, or it is possible to be unable to log back into sshd! " [04:32] ruben23: you owe nullboy bigtime for that find. ;) [04:32] lol [04:33] is there a graphics editing software that's better than gimp? [04:33] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:33] for like...web development? [04:33] you can explode your mind with inkscape [04:34] nullboy:yeah...how i wish i could send him a durian candy specialty in our place.. [04:34] pack that sucker in dry ice [04:34] oh wait..me was thinking melt. [04:35] UPS ships candy [04:36] i was thinking about the openssh v5 chroot directory function that would benefit my SFTP setup.. [04:36] dunno why I suggested UPS. Everytime I see one of there trucks, I want to blow it up. [04:36] nice [04:37] chopp: http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/gallery/d/6882-2/fed-ex-ups-crash.jpg [04:37] Fed was using a branded airplane [04:37] lol..hope the fedex guys all right. [04:37] lol [04:39] the melted merchanty was enriched uranium [04:40] whoa [04:41] since when does slack not come with quanta? [04:41] kde4? [04:41] yeah [04:41] that's probably why [04:41] not compatible? [04:42] i'm not certain for sure but that's what i'd guess [04:42] there is no kivio in -current either [04:42] gyah [04:42] i need wysiwyg for something real quick [04:42] well i dont 'need' it but it would help [04:44] madkento (n=kento@tutts.ost.sgsnet.se) joined ##slackware. [04:49] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) joined ##slackware. [04:52] esom (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:59] ggggooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNIN' ##SLACKWARE!! [05:03] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn69.78-99-209.t-com.sk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:04] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn46.78-99-138.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [05:07] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [05:08] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [05:11] fine.. you can all go to hell [05:12] Zordrak: o/ [05:17] thanks, that means I can stay where I am now [05:22] im still waiting for mf coffee to cool.. [05:22] *my [05:24] mine is cool enough to drink and it is so good , the first cup is always good =) [05:25] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-202722.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:26] its cause this cafetiere mug is double-walled [05:27] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-71-245.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:31] ouch that burns sometimes [05:31] man thesse new speakers rock the house [05:32] i must turn them down until everyone gets up here ! [05:32] chopp: ping [05:33] dtanner: http://www.tpa.me.uk/coffee.jpg [05:33] dtanner: apologies for the blurr [05:33] chopp: how did you get that screenshot of irssi , how did you get irssi to send messages to a seperate window like that ? [05:33] np Zordrak , looking at link now [05:33] yummy [05:34] theres nothing in it... it's just beans, ground with water added [05:34] vatgas (n=val@123.145.42.219) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [05:34] chopp: let me restate ... in that screenshot you poseted of irssi , how did you get it to send parts/joins/quits to a seperate window? [05:34] Zordrak: =) [05:34] but it helps that the mug is also the cafetiere :D [05:35] :P [05:35] obnauticus (n=obnautic@c-71-236-216-76.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:35] man i need some water to go along with this coffe , i habeen SO thirsty all the time lately [05:35] like in the movei "The Faculty" =) The aliens had to constantly drink water [05:36] this is sick... konqueror 4 is more reliable than firefox [05:36] that is sick [05:36] i have been using opera more than ff lately [05:37] if i try to full screen the BBC's flash play of the F1 1st practice.. firefox hangs.... but konqueror doesnt even blink [05:37] vatgas (n=val@123.145.42.219) joined ##slackware. [05:37] Zordrak: send me that link, i want to test it in ff then opera then epiphany [05:37] dtanner: country? [05:38] my ff has been hanging on some flash sites alot lately [05:38] usa [05:38] no go [05:38] bummer [05:38] it's a TV licence thing [05:38] dood. [05:38] and wtf is Minefield? [05:38] you talking to me? [05:38] Hello nullboy [05:38] i use Minefield [05:39] it's the unbranded Firfox [05:39] maybe... did you look at my coffee picture ? [05:39] Firefox [05:39] i build ff myself [05:39] Minefield is a fork of ff nullboy ? [05:39] no [05:39] you can't brand it with FF if you don't have permission [05:39] then technically i wasnt talking to fu :) [05:40] you lost me , so minefield is what ? [05:40] its CentOS [05:40] unbranded Firefox [05:40] Action: dtanner sips coffee [05:40] and by unbranded ff you mean what exactly ? [05:41] dtanner: you know what CentOS is, right? [05:41] yes , never used it but i know what it is [05:41] brb more coffee [05:41] reaver__ (n=reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [05:42] you are not allowed to use the Firefox brandings if you build Firefox from source and don't have permission to brand it with Firefox [05:42] In the same way as CentOS is unbranded RHEL, Minefield is unbranded Firefox [05:42] so the unbranded Firefox 3.0.7 is called Minefield [05:42] ok gotcha [05:42] i used to build my own when it was phoenix [05:45] damnnit... why is my bashrc not getting read :| ... konsole is now more confusing [05:45] http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/slackware-current-minefield.png [05:46] ivu just started shoving it all in /etc/profile [05:48] Zordrak: for which kde version? [05:48] 4 [05:49] Zordrak: do you have a ~/.bash_profile ? ( i am ging somewhere with this ) [05:49] (+ i want to find out if i can increase the height of the K menu, or double-line the panel shortcuts..... like i said before.. i love KDE4... but it feels like im starting new and everything is hard to find [05:49] hmm not run that yet. is konsole being started as a loginshell or not in kde4 [05:49] dtanner: no.. [05:50] BP{k}: i cant tell tbh [05:50] BP{k}: no wait [05:50] BP{k}: it is [05:50] BP{k}: but only if started manually... [05:50] then link bash_profile to point to ~/.bashrc and see if that helps [05:50] I think dtanner and I are on the same thing. :) [05:50] BP{k}: if started as part of a saved session it isnt [05:50] err ~/.bash_profile -> ~/.bashrc [05:51] orite [05:51] i usually link one to the other that way they get read whether i am in tty or X [05:51] Zordrak: bash(1) - invocation. My .bash_profile sources .bashrc [05:52] BP{k}: we are on to the same thing here then =) [05:52] in my older boxes i asways did a little weird setup where .bashrc sourced /etc/profile to pull on non logidn shells.. and /etc/profile then called /etc/bashrc [05:52] dtanner: yeah, just slightly different methods :) [05:52] dtanner@seventakeone:~$ ls -la .bashrc [05:52] lrwxrwxrwx 1 dtanner users 15 2009-01-14 02:49 .bashrc -> ./.bash_profile [05:53] or the other way around , it doesn;t matter , or source it like BP{k} does [05:53] http://rafb.net/p/dA9mMv56.html [05:55] but since i like to make bash mods system wide i just source /etc/bashrc.. so hopefully it means just doing it from .bash_profile instead [05:55] thanks [05:55] np [05:57] burobengen (n=joga@ti0121a340-0854.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [05:57] all to create an alias called unlockff :) [05:57] :P [05:57] Zordrak: just let .bash_profile source /etc/bashrc first then ~/.bashrc ;) [05:58] i have been using , like i said earlier , opera more than ff lately, Opera has turned to an elegant browser i think personally [05:58] dont need .bashrc at all now tho [05:58] BP{k}: isn't /etc/bashrc sourced no matter what though ? [05:58] as is /etc/profile [05:58] i tried opera but i just couldnt get along with it... the UI seemed counter-intuitive [05:58] Hi. To where do one send slackware bugs / suggestions for fix? [05:59] burobengen: info@slackware.com [05:59] OK, thnx [05:59] dtanner: seems like everone does things one way... opera does it another [05:59] yeah [05:59] i like epiphany too [06:00] i like them all , but it pisses me off that ff hangs so much on videos and audio web pages [06:00] mostly video for me [06:00] dtanner: no. considering /etc/bashrc does not exist [06:00] BP{k}: good point [06:00] =0 [06:01] well... since i run a 9x9 desktop with one panel just for audio/video.. i'll just use konqueror in it instead [06:01] burobengen: step 1 would be to confirm if you have a bug really [06:01] burobengen: step 2 determine if the bug is a result of packaging / building or an upstream bug. In case that is the latter, you should bug upstream about it, not pat [06:01] now... to find more room for shortcuts... i need a bigger K menu or multirow shortcuts on the bar [06:02] Zordrak: what do you mean 9x9 ? i am just curious. [06:02] 3 desktops wide.. 3 deep [06:02] gotcha [06:03] i use 4x1 [06:03] I'm not quite sure if it is a bug, but php in slack is compiled with an option making gd-ttf functions not work for non Japanese utf-8 chars. Is this a known issue? [06:03] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:03] with a 1600x1200 res i can handle 9x9... smaller and i have to drop to 2x2 [06:03] nice res [06:04] what monitor make and model . i am in themarket for a new monitor [06:04] ? [06:04] dont get this one [06:04] heh ok then n/m [06:04] Viewsonic VP2030b [06:04] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [06:04] when *I* get to choose i buy iiyama [06:05] i was actually thinking about going with Viewsonic , but now i may not , i have had good luck with them in the past though [06:05] i willkeep that in mind thanks [06:06] hi dtanner ! [06:06] if you hook this up to nVidia 6200 it sometimes just cant be arsed to come on and detect signal [06:06] and a hard monitor reset *sometimes* fixes it [06:06] i do not like this compaq- W17q , it sucks [06:07] Action: fred likes his dell monitors :| [06:08] what model flatscreen dell do you have fred ? [06:08] E228WFP (not so nice) at work, and 2*2007FP at home [06:10] i am taking notes of what monitors people like or dislike while i am in the market , thanks fred [06:11] I have always loved every iiyama i,ve ever known [06:11] even spent £200 on one for my missus [06:11] that is about 140 YSD i think [06:11] err 240 USD [06:11] i will convert it [06:12] at the time it was more like $350 [06:12] 200.00 EUR [06:12] = [06:12] 268.694 USD [06:12] not EUR [06:12] Action: Zordrak stabs you [06:12] oh sorry [06:12] ouch [06:12] GBP [06:12] Action: dtanner bleeds [06:13] Action: Zordrak gives dtanner a crisp GBP fiver to mop it up with [06:13] 200.00 GBP [06:13] = [06:13] 286.493 USD [06:13] it used to be £200 GBP = $400 USD [06:13] when i bought the monitor it was more like [06:14] £200 GBP = $350 USD [06:14] damn, quite a difference [06:15] aarrrghh.. wheres my bookmarks firefox you bastard! [06:15] Action: dtanner stabs FF and then bashes it with a WAR HAMMER [06:15] Nick change: ryht -> yht|off [06:16] hmmm... theyre still in the file.. but not being loaded [06:16] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.11) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:17] bummer, is there a plugin thing loading to handle bookmarks like google-bookmarks or something ? [06:17] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:17] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [06:18] FFS [06:18] FFS"unable to process the backup file" [06:18] WhiteMagic (n=WhiteMag@p549FDD6B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [06:18] its like its all there.. FF just cant display them [06:18] its broken [06:19] mordy_ (n=mordy@pool-141-157-199-55.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: "gah" [06:21] that blows [06:23] good friggen job i onsly pulled the profile from xp a couple of days ago [06:24] gm, is any site/forum that explain howto install Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E620 USB Modem, but not in ubuntu ? can't find any :s [06:27] bingo [06:27] defunct ff processes [06:27] damn those defunct mofoz [06:28] i00nsu: does the kernel see the modem when youlug it in in dmesg? and also what does "lsusb" report , does lsusb see the modem ? [06:28] lsusb see it [06:29] Huawei is Chinese for "You're shit outta luck, sonny Jim!" [06:29] then it should be all good [06:29] heh [06:29] in my experience [06:29] esom (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [06:29] i00nsu: looks like Zordrak has tried one of those modems before , talk to him about it =) [06:30] but when i try to configure the modem, says can't mount .. if i try to mount says device not exist [06:30] use the ubuntu guide... you just have to translate it [06:31] hello, how to kick a remote user? [06:31] kill the tty esom [06:31] kill their login shell [06:31] err yes that [06:31] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [06:31] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.18) joined ##slackware. [06:32] thanks :) [06:32] esom: did ya give em the old BOOT [06:33] Dr4kk4r_ (n=Dr4kk4r@93-42-101-182.ip86.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [06:33] booteco (n=booteco@201.47.25.155.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:34] Giorno a tutti [06:35] tutti frutti to you too [06:36] t0f (i=1000@dialup-4.238.133.160.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) joined ##slackware. [06:36] burobengen (n=joga@ti0121a340-0854.bb.online.no) left irc: "Leaving" [06:38] rofl [06:40] damnnit this is such a simple thing [06:40] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [06:40] how do i get more app shortcuts into these small spaces?! [06:40] i00nsu: what is the problem with modem? [06:42] Guest59268 (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [06:42] s/the// ? [06:42] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:43] lymeca (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) left irc: Success [06:45] The-spiki: s/s\/the\/\//s\/\/the\// [06:45] kinky [06:48] esom (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:48] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:48] The-spiki: device /dev/usb/ttyUSB0 not found [06:49] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [06:49] and have you tried USB1? [06:50] i have Huawei 170 (had 169 before)... model 170 needs (needed) usb_modeswitch program [06:50] ok, let me check.. ubuntu foruns guides talk about usb0 [06:50] since it works in 2 modes: 1. as flash storage device on which windows drivers reside), 2. as "modem" [06:51] when i try to query modem tell me ( Unable to open modem till time out ) [06:51] IIRC that is not needed on 2.6.25+ kernels [06:52] i00nsu: you are using kppp? or what? [06:52] yes kppp [06:52] i configured it with ppp and it works nicely... used umtsmon for a while before [06:52] i00nsu: try it with umtsmon from sb.o [06:53] and don't forget to specify your gsm card pin in the configuration... or disable it (by sticking data card into mobile phone and disablin pin) [06:54] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [06:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:56] hmmm i got it and it alert me about a usb_modeswitch was not found.. [06:57] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:02] The-spiki: give me an error > http://pastebin.com/m3de644ee [07:04] i try to change in .umtsmonrc to ATPortName=/dev/ttyUSB0,1, 2 and i got that error [07:04] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) got netsplit. [07:04] sQuEE (n=narya@host53.201-252-31.telecom.net.ar) got netsplit. [07:04] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-134-220.dyn.iinet.net.au) got netsplit. [07:04] sadsfae (n=will@funcamp.net) got netsplit. [07:04] sorrofix (n=computer@204.174.89.37) got netsplit. [07:04] Redinger|off (i=Redinger@haut.dir.gleich.nen.paar.drauf.org) got netsplit. [07:04] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.115.148.153) got netsplit. [07:04] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) got netsplit. 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[07:07] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:07] Dominus (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:12] Nick change: Guest59268 -> sidmario [07:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-6-58.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:18] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-4-97.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:19] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:20] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) joined ##slackware. [07:21] guys which one is better for java application use Netbean or Eclipse ? [07:22] dtanner: look under tutorials, split windows. http://www.irssi.org/documentation [07:22] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [07:22] Dominus (i=unices@195-241-252-199.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:22] chopp: i know how to split , that is not the issue . [07:23] i can not figure out how to send joins/parts/quits to either a split or another window than the current window [07:24] i have read and even added the recommended aliases as fras sending the joins/parts/quits to their own window ( split or otherwise ) [07:24] fras/far as/ [07:24] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:25] i00nsu: well, you need to switch mode of the model obviously... [07:25] s/model/modem/ [07:25] howto ? [07:25] chopp: still no banana, i guess i am not using the aliases properly [07:25] dtanner: allright just give me a minute. [07:25] k thx chopp [07:26] The-spiki: idid install usb_switch, give it the -v -p options, and it detect some device, but not the internet usb device [07:26] i00nsu: what kernel are you using? i mean, google usb_modeswitch [07:26] did you configured modeswitch? [07:27] in site says, dont edit switch.conf .. and i installed asthey indicate.. | kernel 2.6.27-smp [07:28] chopp: i have added the aliases here -> irssi.org -> documentation -> tips and tricks -> hide aliases for a quiet irssi that will send them to whever you specify supposedly. but you may have a better way than that what i found at irssi.org documentation [07:28] breakfast [07:28] i00nsu: from tfa, Edit "/etc/usb_modeswitch.conf" according to your hardware (it's heavily commented and should tell you what to do). [07:29] i had to do it atleast [07:32] greetings [07:32] othermindszine (n=othermin@218.sub-70-192-81.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:32] this day stinks [07:32] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) joined ##slackware. [07:33] The-spiki: what do u mean : "from tfa " ? [07:35] dtanner: here is the relevent part of my irssi config, notice that window 4 is the join/part. http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/11348 [07:36] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [07:37] then I have an alias for any new window I open. clean = "window level ALL -JOINS -PARTS -QUITS"; [07:37] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [07:37] and it's now my bedtime. [07:39] i00nsu: that's /. acronym for "The F. Article"... meaning usb_modeswitch home page... [07:44] nvision (n=nvision@g230010006.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: No route to host [07:44] slackytude2 (n=hotline@p4FD88BE0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [07:44] nvision (n=nvision@g230010006.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [07:44] othermindszine (n=othermin@243.sub-75-216-43.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [07:46] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD8A177.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Nick collision from services. [07:46] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [07:49] Likevinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:50] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [07:51] i00nsu (n=i00nsu@a81-84-71-245.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:52] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:52] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:53] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [07:54] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:54] why in #ubuntu they are asking asl ? [07:55] because they're morons [07:55] they wouldn't be using ubuntu otherwise [07:56] xaxa [07:56] is a channel for making meetings? [07:56] ffs [07:57] btw Zordrak i made my sendmail :) [07:57] remember yesterday? [07:57] unfortunately [07:58] BentoPUNK (n=BentoPUN@201.72.199.2) joined ##slackware. [07:59] nvm :) [07:59] nvm? [07:59] i made it working now with my own isp [07:59] Never mind [07:59] thrice` (i=thrice@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [08:00] no, thats #ubunut-women [08:00] #ubuntu-women [08:02] I've known some pretty smart broads, slackytude. [08:05] Action: Zordrak wants to murder people who pronounce ethernet the way it's spelled rather than eethernet [08:05] gnubien (n=e@97.100.252.63) joined ##slackware. [08:07] icefusion11_ (n=icefusio@r249-pr-lajeadogrande.ibys.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:07] icefusion11_ (n=icefusio@r249-pr-lajeadogrande.ibys.com.br) left ##slackware ("fui"). [08:07] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [08:09] Action: slava_dp does. [08:09] moonhead (n=trip@ip72-200-201-93.ok.ok.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:09] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [08:12] dio [08:12] *Die [08:12] ethernet comes from ether [08:13] as in evil spirits live in an intangible ether [08:14] meh... ether stands for void in ancient greece :P [08:14] Action: slava_dp died. [08:15] ela re patrida :P [08:15] ;) [08:15] still,, you dont say [E]ther.. you say Eether... so dont say [E]thernet [08:15] k i can see what you mean :) [08:16] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:17] Action: slava_dp decided that life is better and resurrected. [08:18] Zordrak, you're a zealot of the english language i can tell. [08:19] zealots smell bad [08:19] slava_dp: it's just really annoying [08:19] mr_mami (n=m7mod@196.205.162.106) joined ##slackware. [08:21] Zordrak, well you should be a little bit more tolerant towards people, don't you think? [08:22] tolerance is for the weak# [08:22] hey proncpo [08:22] pronco [08:22] Tolerance is incompatible with evolution [08:23] then what makes you strong? [08:23] yeah let's murder everybody who thinks otherwise. [08:23] many things [08:23] mr_mami (n=m7mod@196.205.162.106) left ##slackware. [08:23] Works for lions [08:24] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:24] i dont think that lions have pronouncing issues... like grrraal or grrrooll [08:25] evolution is no longer physical [08:25] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-78ca175c40d35b93) joined ##slackware. [08:26] ever since australopithecus, evolution became a mental issue [08:26] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:26] acting correctly is now more relevant than simply being strong [08:28] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [08:28] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-124-158.ip38.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [08:29] nvision (n=nvision@g230010006.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:29] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-216-239.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [08:29] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-216-239.epm.net.co) left ##slackware. [08:31] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [08:36] gabriel (n=gabriel@nat-wifi-alumnos.campus.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [08:36] replace the word acting with smelling [08:38] pi31415: it's about the whole mental package.. things like smell can be heavily influenced by thought and actions based on that thought [08:38] Dominian (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [08:39] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Leaving" [08:39] I must have strong powers of thought then [08:39] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:39] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:39] and i want let anyone argue that geeks are bad with women because the really smart geeks are good with women.. it's those that only have a tech focus and have little interpersonal skill that don't [08:39] s/want/won't/ [08:39] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:39] when i have such strong thoughts, i shower :) [08:40] t0f: Precisely :) [08:40] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.18) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:40] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.18) joined ##slackware. [08:40] gabriel (n=gabriel@nat-wifi-alumnos.campus.utfsm.cl) left irc: Client Quit [08:40] being strong is useful when you want to crush somebody's trachea. [08:41] Dominian (i=dominian@unaffiliated/dominian) left irc: Client Quit [08:41] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [08:41] being smart is more useful in not letting yourself get into the position of having your trachea crushed [08:42] no, crushing *other* people's trachea [08:42] trachea lol [08:42] motto to live by: run, lift & read [08:42] use a saftey belt [08:42] lift ? [08:42] make mine a 99 [08:42] weights [08:42] don't run on pavement for the sake of the joints [08:43] Dominian (i=dominian@noobfarm.org) joined ##slackware. [08:43] pi31415: good point [08:43] t0f, not bad [08:43] I lift boobs. [08:43] lol [08:43] :P [08:43] godling: your boobs? [08:43] Ok, now I'm done being completely juvenile. :P [08:44] aperturefever: I don't have them. I suspect I might in 5-10 years, though. [08:44] www.imagebin.org/43336 [08:44] godling: ;D [08:44] godling: and swart is good for creating a trachea crushing machine [08:44] s/swart/smart/ [08:44] not as satisfying as doing it yourself [08:45] satisfaction is emotional not cerebral [08:45] so? [08:45] Agiofws: looks like eksarheia :P [08:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:46] so.. survival of the smartest [08:46] pupit (n=p@93.86.1.18) left irc: "Leaving." [08:46] aperturefever, wow :) you;re right [08:46] lol [08:46] ok, Zordrak [08:46] t0f, www.imagebin.org/43338 [08:47] aperturefever, you;re the first one to comment that [08:47] Zordrak: There are obvious benefits to both being strong and being smart. [08:47] Clearly if you are in the room with ten strong people then it is smart for you to become strong in case you need to defend yourself against them. [08:47] underguiz (n=undergui@189-015-89-132.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [08:47] yes.. but survival is primarily determined by intelligence in the human species, not strength [08:47] underguiz (n=undergui@189-015-89-132.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [08:48] you cant have a healthy mind if you dont have a strong and healthy body. period [08:48] *sigh* [08:48] Agiofws: hehehehe [08:49] healthy.. yes.. superior in strength to your peers, no [08:49] aperturefever, you live in athens ? [08:49] Agiofws: yup [08:50] ok [08:51] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left ##slackware. [08:51] hello everybudy, do you know any program to take a pic from a webcam? [08:52] ramdac (n=ramdac@41.236.175.72) joined ##slackware. [08:53] Can i upgrade from 12 to 12.2 without going directly to 12.1? [08:53] arcaos_ (n=chatzill@190.177.151.77) joined ##slackware. [08:54] ramdac, its unsupported, but not impossible [08:54] ramdac, you better not. you will run into problems. [08:55] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:56] BentoPUNK, http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+web+camera+snapshot [08:56] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:56] slava_dp: use lmgtfy instead :) [08:56] I'm intending to compile the newest kernel at kernel.org (2.6.29)and then upgrade directly to V12.2 using swaret is it gonna be a problem? [08:57] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.244.236) joined ##slackware. [08:57] ramdac: WOH! [08:57] O_o [08:57] ramdac: Stop Right There [08:57] O_O [08:57] using swaret? from 12 to 12.2? with lates kernel? [08:57] godspeed [08:57] How about this [08:57] I kick you in the nuts..and we call it even. [08:57] rofl [08:58] ok how about installing latest kernel and then from 12 ->12.1 ->12.2 [08:58] Or..just..don't use swaret [08:58] ramdac: Either install 12.2 (or -current) fresh.. or do a manual upgrade using the instructions provided with slack in runlevel 1, going through 12.1 on the way and THEN upgrade the kernel [08:59] yeah, what zordrak said [08:59] why the latest kernel anyway? [08:59] slackytude: cause he wants Tuz probably :) [08:59] i'm about to test drive 2.6.28.9. this is stable, no? [08:59] thats easy to change [08:59] just need a different ppm [09:00] slackytude: although there are some good performance changes [09:00] and recompile kernel [09:00] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: "Leaving" [09:00] well i heard that it is amazingly speedy [09:00] Zordrak, yes, but because there are a few of those, Id wait, personally [09:00] mornin all. [09:00] there will be a lot of bugfixing for that one [09:00] slackytude: me too [09:00] Action: slackytude nods [09:01] slackytude: i wont go to 29 until .5 or until Pat does.. whichever comes first [09:01] and the latest kernel is declared as stable at kernel.org [09:01] Zordrak: you know the subrevisions are security fixes only..right? [09:01] ifman (i=d4214d65@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-069c3fc6773ea825) joined ##slackware. [09:01] And functionally .5 is no different [09:02] ramdac: its not "amazingly speedy" and it's not "stable" [09:02] yet [09:02] it's faster in places [09:02] Why isn't it "stable" ? [09:02] and will definitely need some patching [09:02] which you wont probably notice in most cases [09:02] Waiting until .5 won't make it any more stable [09:03] straterra: bottom line is unless theres a feature i truly need a wait for pat to move before i do [09:04] i will go to a later subrev.. but stay on the same rev [09:04] eg am only on current for kde4 [09:04] But..thats the same thing as staying on the same revision [09:04] otherwise id be on 12.2 [09:04] Zordrak: but at kernel.org is says that the latest stable version of the linux kernel is 2.6.29 [09:04] ramdac: it is [09:04] ramdac, yes [09:04] Action: Zordrak goes for coffee... headache much [09:06] before i do... go google for Linus opinon on 2.6.29 [09:07] where can i buy a cheap slackware 6 CD set? [09:07] The Chinese government [09:08] :] [09:09] bob_slacker (n=bob_slac@201.47.149.120) joined ##slackware. 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[09:25] heh [09:26] greetings slackers:) [09:28] hitest, greetings! :D [09:29] :) [09:29] hi bob_slacker:) [09:30] arcaos_ (n=chatzill@190.177.151.77) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:31] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:31] arcaos (n=chatzill@190.177.151.77) joined ##slackware. [09:33] gabriel (n=gabriel@200.1.19.140) joined ##slackware. [09:34] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [09:37] gabriel (n=gabriel@200.1.19.140) left irc: Client Quit [09:38] gabriel (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [09:39] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-168-185-125.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:41] natural_mind (n=vbatts@rrcs-67-78-226-122.se.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:41] natural_mind (n=vbatts@rrcs-67-78-226-122.se.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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[09:50] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:50] Zordrak, svn integrates just fine with emacs [09:50] ...and i should start doing work [09:50] frullet (n=hooch@124-168-134-220.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [09:50] *sigh* [09:50] I need it practically for iso only [09:51] images of OSa [09:51] OSs [09:51] Nick change: kethry_ -> kethry [09:51] cuba: growisofs [09:51] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: "client exploded" [09:51] greetings [09:51] growisofs is probably easiest from command [09:52] is it just me, or has the "how do a burn a DVD" question become significantly more common in the last week or so... [09:52] smica (n=smica@212.16.144.46) joined ##slackware. [09:52] edman007, why is that ...? what changed this week? [09:52] apart from me not being around [09:52] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-13.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:53] cuba: something like: "growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/dvd.iso -speed=2 [09:53] i don't know...i just feel that i answer this question at least 5 times in the last week [09:53] edman007: your not wrong, ive seen it come up quite a few times [09:53] it is not: how do I burn a DVD...I'm asking for software you have good experiences with [09:53] ragsagar (i=1000@59.93.34.163) joined ##slackware. [09:53] that's because Britney released a DVD last week [09:54] :) [09:54] lol [09:54] Action: frullet_ buys that shit [09:54] fevel (n=fevel@189.106.39.40) joined ##slackware. [09:55] iam recompiling a kernel with bootsplash patch, in their Howto , in kernel configuration they are telling to turn on "Use splash screen instead of boot logo", but i cant find such a option [09:56] hi edman007, hi slava_dp. just got back stepped away from the KB for a bit [09:56] i disabled boot logo option that i found [09:56] ragsagar: you need to have applied the patch before you we will see that option [09:56] hi [09:56] :) [09:56] frullet_, i applied that patch , but i cant see [09:57] patch --dry-run -p1 [09:57] is there still a bootsplash patch for recent kernels? i thought only splashy is a viable option now. [09:57] i used that command! [09:57] bbiab, breakfast:) [09:57] thrice`, is it a part of the dvd+rw-tools-7.1.tar.gz from http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/multimedia/dvd-rw-tools.html ? [09:58] slava_dp, linux 2.6.27 comes with slackware 12.2, i found a patch for that version somewhere in eflips [09:58] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [09:59] thrice`, or all I need is to compile the growisofs.c :) [09:59] got it :) [09:59] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) joined ##slackware. [10:00] gabriel (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:00] I got a option Bootsplash configuration , but i cant find anything inside it [10:01] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [10:02] BentoPUNK (n=BentoPUN@201.72.199.2) left irc: "Leaving" [10:04] gbonvehim (n=xcietok@200.69.244.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:05] Aanna (i=1nd4@41.236.14.139) joined ##slackware. [10:06] I hope it's work with TESCO DWD+RW [10:08] slava_dp, some people like the bootsplash patch more than splashy for whatever insane reasons [10:08] aperturefever` (n=abell@85.74.125.210) joined ##slackware. [10:10] slackytude, i liked the patch a lot somewhere during the 2.6.19 times. still haven't tried splashy though.... [10:10] I use it [10:10] its fine [10:10] Used the patch, too, back in the day [10:10] slackytude, do you have a usable config or a howto? [10:11] slava_dp, there is a slackware specific one on their site [10:11] slackytude, oh they even know slackware exists :) that's very nice from their side :) [10:12] thanks, i'll check it out when i have some spare time. [10:13] slava_dp, ^-^ [10:13] aperturefever` (n=abell@85.74.125.210) left irc: Client Quit [10:14] aperturefever` (n=abell@athedsl-206388.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:16] ifman (i=d4214d65@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-069c3fc6773ea825) left ##slackware. [10:16] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:16] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [10:17] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-228-97.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:19] boot splash things should all die [10:19] my computer should be on, not booting [10:21] sy0 (n=paulus@201.22.219.248) joined ##slackware. [10:22] clavius (n=clavius@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: "client exploded" [10:22] Knightingale (n=tp@unaffiliated/knightingale) left irc: "Leaving" [10:24] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-202722.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:24] Nick change: aperturefever` -> aperturefever [10:25] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@200.158.124.249) joined ##slackware. [10:27] sy0 (n=paulus@201.22.219.248) left irc: "adios" [10:28] ou no, when you installed slackware 12.2, was the automounting system working for you ? [10:28] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:28] or you got the security policy warning in konqueror like me [10:29] cuba, hal security policy? [10:29] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [10:29] yes [10:29] cuba, are you a member of the plugdev group? [10:29] no :) [10:29] there you go then [10:29] but always wanted to become a member [10:29] ok, thank you [10:29] heh [10:29] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn46.78-99-138.t-com.sk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:29] no problemo [10:29] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn157.91-127-221.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [10:30] I should write a bot that does my work [10:30] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:30] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@C-59-100-83-93.bri.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [10:31] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-13.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:31] but I have worries that it won't help because unlike usb devices, the dvd doesn't show up in fdisk -l [10:31] Of course it does not show up [10:32] ramdac (n=ramdac@41.236.175.72) left irc: "Leaving" [10:32] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [10:32] nvision (n=nvision@g230010006.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [10:32] but usb devices do [10:32] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:32] first off I try [10:32] fdisk will show devices that have partitions and partition tables [10:33] A CDROM or DVD is not in that category [10:33] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn157.91-127-221.t-com.sk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:34] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) joined ##slackware. [10:35] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn65.91-127-169.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [10:35] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:36] so now I'm a member, but still the same [10:36] usermod -a -G plugdev cuba [10:36] usermod -G plugdev cuba [10:37] whatever happened to `vi /etc/group` ? [10:37] plugdev:x:83:root,cuba [10:37] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [10:37] cuba, now you are only member of plugdev [10:37] log out and in maybe [10:37] cuba, group changes take a logout to become effective [10:37] ok [10:38] cuba, but you wont be in user group anymore, nor in any other [10:38] except plugdev [10:38] slackytude: ought to be more clear that that is a logout of that app [10:38] why ? [10:38] not in general [10:38] cuba, read the groupmod manual for the -G switch [10:38] If the user is currently a member of a group which is not listed, the user will be removed from [10:38] othermindszine (n=othermin@243.sub-75-216-43.myvzw.com) left irc: "Where ever you may be, be well. Namarië." [10:38] the group [10:39] mmfps02 [10:39] err, dammit..wrong window [10:39] a better way is to do a gpasswd -a cuba plugdev [10:39] or edit /etc/group by hand [10:39] ++ [10:41] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn65.91-127-169.t-com.sk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:41] some new anii-apple ads from MS are out heh "I'm just not cool enough to be a mac person" [10:41] anti [10:41] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-62.95-102-27.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [10:42] slackytude, shit, I guess there is no way now how to find out which groups I was a member before [10:43] but thank you for warning, I would notice unaware of the reason then [10:43] cuba, none that I know [10:43] probably default groups for a new user, just make a new user and you will see the default groups [10:44] hech, there is a wheel like in unix [10:44] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:46] but in unix unless you are a member you can't su root [10:46] *can [10:47] cuba (n=cub@84.19.44.65) left irc: "Leaving" [10:47] same in linux, afaik [10:49] cuba (n=cub@84.19.44.65) joined ##slackware. [10:49] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [10:49] FFS [10:49] slackytude, no, logout from kde and back, but still the same, maybe I need to be a member of cdrom as well [10:50] Why does eclipse == dependency hell? [10:50] or audio video [10:51] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:51] cuba, did you logout completly or just dropped your X server? what runlevel are you on? do you still get the hal policy message? [10:51] exit [10:51] is kdebluetooth working for anyone who has it in here ? [10:52] I'm booting to runlevel 3, and then manually starting KDE [10:52] and I'm getting the message [10:52] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-62.95-102-27.t-com.sk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:53] slackytude, is there any other way how to mount the dvd ? [10:55] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [10:56] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89-96-108-186.ip12.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [10:56] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-250.95-102-49.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [10:56] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89-96-108-186.ip12.fastwebnet.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:58] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:59] A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal") [10:59] cuba, well, whats the output of the group command. this is slackware 12.2? [10:59] 12.2 [11:00] #groups# root bin daemon sys adm disk wheel floppy audio video cdrom tape mysql plugdev packager [11:00] sry [11:01] $cuba: users floppy audio video cdrom mysql apache plugdev console postgres vboxusers tomcat snort [11:01] that should work. I see no reason why you are getting that message [11:02] unless you did something fancy with HAL [11:02] I don't even know what that is :0 [11:02] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:02] well, I try to restart PC [11:02] cuba (n=cub@84.19.44.65) left irc: "Leaving" [11:02] jaskorpe (i=jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:05] off to work, bye:) [11:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:06] i see cuba is not in messagebus group, that might be his problem [11:08] ragsagar (i=1000@59.93.34.163) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:09] tank-man, nope, works for me without it [11:10] users audio video plugdev power console [11:10] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [11:10] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89.96.108.186) joined ##slackware. [11:11] conatic (n=ME@81.243.240.46) joined ##slackware. [11:13] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:13] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] j14159 (n=jeremy@154.5.76.16) joined ##slackware. [11:17] Aanna (i=1nd4@41.236.14.139) left irc: No route to host [11:17] cuba (n=cub@84.19.44.65) joined ##slackware. [11:18] slackytude, well, it needed reboot [11:18] cuba, eh [11:18] cuba, no it just needs you to logout and login again [11:18] really, I did log out [11:18] cuba, oh well [11:19] from the session [11:19] cuba, at least it works [11:19] thank you slackytude [11:19] no sweat [11:19] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h1VQBfLDLA&feature=related hahaha [11:21] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:22] cuba, logging out/in means you have to type your username and password again, did you really log out? [11:22] Soul_keeper, lol [11:23] tank-man, yes :) you can trust me on this [11:24] conatic (n=ME@81.243.240.46) left ##slackware. [11:24] lownoize_ (n=lownoize@swt32.informatik.uni-mannheim.de) joined ##slackware. [11:24] it was brand new session [11:25] cuba: sorry, dvd+rw-tools is apart of slackware of course [11:25] lownoize (n=lownoize@swt32.informatik.uni-mannheim.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:27] thrice`, and how can I check to which node the /media/dvd is mounted [11:27] cuba: well, type ls /dev/dvd [11:28] it'll probably list them. then just try to run eject /dev/dvdrw or whatever until it pops open [11:28] the /dev/dvd as well as dvd0, dvdrw, dvdrw0 etc. are there [11:31] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [11:34] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:35] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:36] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060015e97b42ff.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Say good night to the bad guy." [11:36] The Moon is Waxing Crescent (1% of Full) [11:37] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [11:38] cuba: if you run "ls -dl /dev/dvdrw", it'll probably actually be linked to /dev/dvdrw0 [11:38] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:39] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:40] epaphus (n=unix3@190.10.68.227) joined ##slackware. [11:41] Hey guys.. can anybody give me an example of how to clone my current hard disk into a slaved one with dd [11:41] epaphus, google knows [11:42] epaphus: what did you try so far? [11:42] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-16.net-89-3-215.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:43] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:44] nevermind its a lot easier than i thought :) [11:44] does it matter if the hard disk I want to clone is the same hard disk I booted up with? [11:44] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [11:44] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@89.96.108.186) left irc: "byez" [11:45] epaphus, it will w.r.t. /etc/fstab ; and you'll need to address the cdrom (if any) for udev. see the slackware readme on that, or read the scripts in the udev directory. [11:45] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn-250.95-102-49.t-com.sk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:45] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn156.91-127-18.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [11:46] Old_Fogie, ok.. what do you mean with w.r.t /etc/fstab? [11:46] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [11:46] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:47] epaphus, well if you cloned /dev/hda to /dev/hdb let's say... and try and boot, you'll have a can of FAIL. so you have to edit the /etc/fstab that got copied over when you did DD .. you digg? :) [11:47] yup [11:47] understood [11:47] thanks. [11:51] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [11:51] jota-_ (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:54] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-200-90.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [11:54] freack (n=frk@201-14-249-215.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [11:56] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:57] pack3r (n=paulo@189.103.19.84) joined ##slackware. [11:57] koojoo (n=zerafuze@74.13.62.15) left irc: [12:00] me_ (n=me_@89.243.205.156) joined ##slackware. [12:00] hi guys [12:00] koojoo (n=zerafuze@74.13.62.15) joined ##slackware. [12:00] i need to ftp into my site which isn't working, i need to create error logs [12:00] anybody know how? [12:00] like connection requests etc [12:00] uhm..what? [12:01] poorly worded [12:01] FTP in to a downed server? [12:01] no no [12:01] the server works [12:01] i'm just having trouble with it [12:01] my webhost wants an ftp error log [12:02] webhost says that they can ftp into it fine [12:02] i have tried from 2 locations, 4 machines, 4 OS's [12:02] fail fail fail fail [12:02] Then give them the log of the failure from the client [12:02] ya [12:02] how do i obtain this log [12:03] ? [12:03] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:03] Depends on the client [12:03] shell? [12:03] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:04] pack3r (n=paulo@189.103.19.84) left irc: Client Quit [12:04] me_: when using "ftp" program you can issue the "debug" command: it will print on your screen the command sent to the client [12:04] *server [12:04] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [12:04] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [12:05] and i can just copy this? [12:05] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [12:05] i mean, do you think that would be acceptable to the webhost? [12:05] pack3r (n=quassel@189.103.19.84) joined ##slackware. [12:06] probably yes [12:06] ramdac (n=ramdac@41.236.175.72) joined ##slackware. [12:06] cool [12:06] guys i installed a new kernel but how to activate the newly built modules? [12:06] i didn't think of copying the text :D [12:06] i was thinking of somehow piping the ftp commands to a txt file [12:06] ramdac: they will take effect automatically, assuming you installed them (with make modules_install) [12:06] ramdac: load them [12:07] pack3r (n=quassel@189.103.19.84) left irc: Client Quit [12:07] ramdac: er, sorry. did you mean a slackware kernel, or one you compiled yourself ? [12:07] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:07] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [12:07] thrice:one i compiled my self [12:12] time for weekend \o/ [12:12] Action: slackytude goes off [12:12] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD88BE0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "end of work" [12:13] rhys (n=rhys@129.22.192.110) joined ##slackware. [12:14] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:16] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.128.34) joined ##slackware. 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[12:42] does anyone resolved the problem with linuxdcpp-1.0.3? [12:42] what problem is that? [12:43] i cant compile it [12:43] the error occur with Text module [12:43] ummm [12:43] something with encoding [12:43] I doubt anyone has tried to build it [12:43] did youc heck slackbuilds.org for scripts? [12:43] yes, i used sackbuld for 1.0.2 [12:43] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/network/linuxdcpp/ [12:43] yes [12:44] pastebin the errors [12:44] ahhh [12:44] you're missing scons I bet [12:44] This requires scons (also available on SlackBuilds.org).. [12:44] Need to read the README [12:44] thats why its there [12:44] ah, if i have to pastebin i must start compilation again [12:45] no.. just install scons [12:45] then build linuxdcpp [12:45] sorry, do u have the program compiled? [12:45] nope [12:45] me_ (n=me_@89.243.205.156) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:45] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:45] but I bet you're missing scons [12:45] Alan_Hicks (n=alan@cardinal.lizella.net) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Alan_Hicks: You talk to fuzzbawl at all? [12:45] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Operation timed out [12:45] Alan_Hicks: I know you asked me if I did, but curious if you've heard from him [12:45] Negative. [12:45] hrm [12:46] my VPS rebooted last night around 12:30am [12:46] If he's sent me an e-mail or something, it got spam filtered. [12:46] and it appears the server host did as well [12:46] weird.. ok [12:46] man, i wrote the error occured with compilation of module Text, i started compilation, how can i start taht without scons [12:46] D-r_Flower: Did you install scons? [12:46] Dominian: Think you could forward me some contact information for him? [12:46] Ify ou didn't.. you need scons installed which is available at slackbuilds.org as well [12:46] Alan_Hicks: sure [12:46] Alan_Hicks: PM me an email address [12:46] You know my address. :-) [12:46] I do? [12:47] alan AT slackware DOT com works. [12:47] oh [12:47] yeah duh [12:47] They all get .forward'd to a single IMAP account anyway. [12:48] on the way [12:48] thanks [12:48] np [12:50] SpacePlod: What dd buffer issues? I just saw yur reply [12:51] nvision (n=nvision@g230010006.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:51] booteco (n=booteco@189.114.238.199) joined ##slackware. [12:53] epaphus (n=unix3@190.10.68.227) left irc: "Leaving" [12:53] kama_ (n=kama@host249-110-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:55] i have a 40gb drive on my laptop and im seetting it up as a server. b4 i used to have 100mb /boot, 30gb /, 2gb swap, 6gb /var and 2gb /tmp. i am wondering if someone could give me a hand i think since im setting it up as a server now i should make a seperate /usr (and possible /home?) partition so i can upgrade easier and keep my software.. any ideas? [12:55] Dominian: yes, i have scons instaled and all of my samples was with scons installed [12:55] vinnie_ (n=kvirc@unaffiliated/vinnie/x-178932) left irc: "When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net" [12:55] risperidon (n=risperid@189.77.60.84) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:55] D-r_Flower: well we'd need to see the build errors you're getting [12:56] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-200-90.epm.net.co) left ##slackware. [12:57] kama_ (n=kama@host249-110-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:57] Text.o module cannot bi compiled bocause of error with encoding, iconv cannot convert to utf-8 [12:57] or something similar [12:58] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@79.101.172.49) joined ##slackware. [13:02] exact errors would be helpful [13:03] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [13:03] well, later i ll make that error [13:03] :) [13:07] agiofws_ (n=agiofws@athedsl-423043.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:08] koojoo: How experienced a user would you say you are? [13:08] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423957.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:08] agiofws_ (n=agiofws@athedsl-423043.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:09] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423043.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:09] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423043.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:09] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423043.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:09] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [13:10] Alan_Hicks, ive been using linux slackware and gentoo for about 5 years... i know a lot of the basics, how to customize things, setup servers and secure them... but there are still some things that im not sure about, in which ill either ask or google [13:10] and on this matter i cant find much info on google [13:11] my main concern with this was being able to upgrade to new versions easier... cuz as i remember, there isnt really an "upgrade" optoin, its more a fresh install then up to you to restore the software you had installed [13:12] I think he was more wondering why you're turning a laptop into a server [13:12] Well, you can upgrade slackware, as long as you read UPGRADE.TXT and CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT. [13:13] Actually, no, the laptop->server thing never crossed my mind. [13:13] ah [13:13] I asked about experience 'cause I was wondering how you'd feel about running LVM on this box. [13:16] Dominian, its an old pentium4 tosiba a70.. 40gb hd, 512 ram... it hadnt been used in years, so i figure i could put it to use as my web/mail/vpn etc server, and then i can get rid of the entire server aspect which i currently have on my main computer, with mac os x [13:16] ahhh [13:16] Plus, it has a built-in UPS. [13:16] Alan_Hicks, i was actually considering LVM, this way if i got an external i could resize the partitions or add drives etc.. [13:17] I pretty much always use LVM now. [13:17] i found a guide for lvm here: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Slackware-Guides#How_do_I_install_Slackware_on_a_with_LVM-partitions.3F [13:17] yeah I'm debating rebuilding my laptop just to get LVM on it [13:17] You'll have to read README_LVM.TXT first, and generate an initrd, but if you're comfortable with that, it's what i'd do. [13:18] koojoo: Forget that. Just read README_LVM.TXT and you're good to go. [13:18] Action: Dominian nods [13:18] Alan_Hicks, reasons why you would use LVM? even for a server, EXPECIALLY a laptop? (which in this case adding an extra internal drive is NOT an option) [13:18] I like it. :-) [13:19] For one, I like having partitions named /dev/$HOSTNAME/root, /dev/$HOSTNAME/src, etc. Makes it easy to figure out what's what for starters. [13:19] ease of backups with snapshotting would be a decent reason I'd think? not sure...have never used LVM [13:19] gabriel (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [13:19] I like the ability to re-size drives later on. I like the ability to handle partitioning in software and avoid extended partitions, etc. [13:19] ah [13:19] snapshotting is nice too [13:19] i want an absolute bare minimum install with compielrs etc. i was gonna use emerde for package management, because i find that slack although not bloated, most things have WAY to many unnecesary dependencies... for me anyways [13:19] I haven't gotten into all the advanced features of LVM... [13:19] russell_h (n=russell_@osuosl/staff/russellh) joined ##slackware. [13:20] Dominian: Me neither. [13:20] ok, question [13:20] well snapshooting... expanding.. shrinking.. etc [13:20] how is one supposed to download slackware? [13:20] that's what I mean by advanced lol [13:20] russell_h: from a mirror.. get the iso.. burn to CD/DVD ;) [13:20] perhaps I'm confused... I can't find any isos [13:20] koojoo: Just use LVM. Forget the /boot partition. Give / 4 GB, drop /usr partition. Toss oh.... 8GB into /var, make a /data partition for storage needs, and just toss home directories in /data/home. [13:21] just instructions on how to make one :) [13:21] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:21] Action: russell_h really not wanting to have to write a recursive GET script [13:21] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [13:21] russell_h: isolinux/README [13:22] Alan_Hicks: right, that says how to make one [13:22] you guys would even put your root and boot partitions on LVM?? [13:22] Oh! [13:22] i heard that root on an lvm can be a bad thing [13:22] ohhhhhh [13:22] koojoo: I used to think the same way about dependancies in Slack. That is, until emerge -u world and pacman -Syu started borking my system regularly ;) [13:22] Gotcha. Well, some mirrors will have the isos, but you can just grab the torrents from slackware.com for official isos. [13:22] Alan_Hicks: got it, thanks :) [13:23] I was looking in totally the wrong place [13:23] j14159: That reminds me.... [13:23] ? [13:23] koojoo: I don't know if you can put boot on LVM, but I used to have my root on LVM [13:24] I once was upgrading sendmail, recompiling really to enable TLS on a FreeBSD box. [13:25] In FreeBSD (really, any of the BSDs), /usr/src contains the entire source tree for the OS, if you elect to install it. [13:25] yep [13:25] oh...I think I see where this is going... :P [13:25] hehehe [13:25] arcaos_ (n=chatzill@190.177.187.15) joined ##slackware. [13:25] And their make files are really very good. Anyhow, I was foolin' around in /usr/src/sbin/sendmail or some such and went to recompile sendmail. [13:25] Action: j14159 nods [13:25] Except that I executed "make; make install" in the wrong directory. [13:26] Wound up recompiling and re-installing the entire OS. [13:26] hehehe [13:26] It actually worked like a charm. [13:26] yeh, BSD's usually pretty good that way. [13:26] never did piles with it but ports always made me pretty happy. [13:26] But my asshole puckered up when I got a notification e-mail the next day telling me every single suid binary on the box had been changed. [13:26] lol [13:27] Thought I'd been hacked at first. [13:27] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.128.34) left irc: "Leaving" [13:27] yeh, that'd be a bit of an initial shock. [13:27] firebird619 (n=firebird@173-18-61-8.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [13:28] the thing that got me about gentoo was juggling all the package masks. Was doing a bunch of dev stuff with mono at the time and anything even remotely recent release-wise was(of course) masked along with most of its deps. [13:29] emerge -u world was usually a bit agonizing. [13:29] okay so i got 40gb to play with... 100mb /boot, 5700mb /var, 2100mb /tmp. then i have 30gb left that would NORMALLY have been root... what is a good size to keep for my root partition? i want to do a seperate /usr partitoin as well, and maybe home... 30gb to play with... what do you guys think? [13:29] ive never actuially done seperate usr and home, just one big root aside from my var tmp and boot.. so im not sure what would be a good size [13:30] home partition is good for migration/upgrades... keeping your home separate [13:30] most of installed program binaries will go in /usr [13:30] w0ls0n (n=w0ls0n@22-142-135-64.dsl.sacoriver.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] hello all [13:31] i've always done one big root, maybe 10-15gb, and the rest /home [13:31] yeah thats what im gonna do... im gonna LVM my /var and /tmp /home and /usr.. i got 30gb to play with which will need to have root, home, and usr... i just dont know what sizes to pick for the three [13:31] I'm fairly new to slackware (I'm a FreeBSD user) and I would like to know how to switch off the thing so when you edit vi .. it keeps the screen in the window [13:31] but on a minimal install with no X, usr+root could even go down to about 5g or so, couldn't they? [13:31] sure [13:31] like when I edit files on freebsd with vi, whatever screen I see when I :wq stays on the screen [13:32] in slack is just disappears [13:32] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:33] w0ls0n: hmm, not sure on that one [13:33] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-78ca175c40d35b93) left irc: [13:33] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [13:33] w0ls0n: you talking about your terminal wiping the screen on exit from vi? [13:33] j14159: yes! [13:34] ah [13:34] er...not so sure how you'd change that to be honest - I kind of expect it to do that :P sorry... [13:35] hmmm, vi or elvis or vim ? [13:35] slackytude (n=slacky@p57A74DA6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:35] arcaos__ (n=chatzill@190.177.37.95) joined ##slackware. [13:35] slackytude, so your week-end only starts now ? :p [13:35] arcaos_ (n=chatzill@190.177.187.15) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:35] Camarade_Tux, eh [13:35] Camarade_Tux, you waited some time for that [13:36] Camarade_Tux, just got home and made me some tee [13:36] I saw you leave about thirty minutes after I got home but had no time to annoy you with that :) [13:37] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [13:37] tea is for wimps and girly-men [13:37] haha [13:37] but tee is different :D [13:37] Action: j14159 looks to leftfield. [13:37] my boss drinks tea [13:37] ill tell him next time he makes a cup LOL [13:37] yea a tee is for golf LOL [13:37] I wasn't thinking about that tee ;p [13:38] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [13:38] arcaos (n=chatzill@190.177.151.77) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:38] T is for Texas [13:38] T for Tennessee [13:38] Nick change: arcaos__ -> arcaos [13:39] "I'm the man" [13:39] T for Texas, T for Tennessee. T for Thelma, that gal who made a wreck outta me. [13:39] i thought thelma made your asshole pucker up tighter than a snare drum? [13:39] Sorry, couldn't resist. I just added "T For Texas" by Grandpa Jones to me iPod. [13:40] Along with quite a lot of good Lefty Frizzel tunes as well. [13:41] hmm wrong thelma, perhaps... [13:42] ok here we go... 100mb /boot, 10gb root, 2gb swap, 28gb LVM with 5.5gb /var, 2gb /tmp, and 20gb /usr [13:42] D-r_Flower (n=incognit@212.233.241.162) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [13:42] lol, makewhatis is a true resource hog :o [13:42] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [13:43] Action: Camarade_Tux has sda1, sda3, sda5, sda6, sda7, sda8, sda9, sda10, sda11 ;p [13:44] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: [13:44] on a laptop of course :) [13:45] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-16.net-89-3-215.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [13:46] Nick change: panzer -> Panzer [13:49] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-13.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:50] eh, was a bit distracted there. tee is the german word for tea [13:50] jar_corefile (n=jar_core@76.210.68.106) joined ##slackware. [13:53] Camarade_Tux, I appreciate the effort that wents into your taunting me ^-^ [13:55] Ok guys, I got a question. :-) [13:56] Anyone know an elegant way to pad a single number with 0s to make it an arbitray length? [13:56] Example: recvq/seqf files contains an integer that incriments regularly. This integer can be anywhere between 1 and 99999 at any given time. [13:56] is there a way to use vgcreate to make it use whatever space is left on the volume? [13:57] len - 1 number of zeros before the first character [13:57] or something [13:57] I want to parse recvq/seqf, get its value, and pad any value less than 10000 so that it has five digits total. [13:57] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.128.34) joined ##slackware. [13:57] Alan_Hicks, what language? [13:57] I know a dirty way [13:57] slackytude: bash [13:57] eh [13:58] I know there's got to be a tool out there to do this. [13:58] Alan_Hicks, is that a single value or severeal rows of values [13:58] jota-_ (n=jota@190.6.2.24) joined ##slackware. [13:59] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [13:59] seq -w can do it when given two values for example, but it doens't do exactly what I want. [13:59] Single value. [13:59] anyone know how to add custom shortcuts to kde4? [13:59] In fact, recvq/seqf doesn't even contain a new-line, just an integer. [14:00] i have a problem with alien's vlc build. it does have libfaad library in /usr/lib/vlc but doesn't decode audio stream in a video file. whereas xine works without a problem [14:00] what could be the problem? [14:02] Stutteringmatt: I'm assuming you mean keyboard shortcuts? [14:03] yeah , i figured it out [14:03] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h141n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:05] I can do it in a real dirty way by iterating through a while loop and using cut to check for the length of the digit. [14:06] Just write a function that does that [14:07] jota- (n=jota@190.6.2.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:08] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [14:09] koojoo: you mean lvcreate, and yes. lvcreate -l 100%FREE [14:10] tntslack (n=will@adsl74-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:10] seejay (n=seejay@unaffiliated/seejay) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:12] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:14] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [14:15] gabriel (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:15] john_dee: do, 'ldd /path/to/vlc/binary' and see if it links the library's with it. [14:16] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021906]" [14:17] Yey, Friday afternoon = Lets see how many of my users got a virus this week Day. [14:18] agentc0re|work, fun! [14:18] how are the odds? [14:19] slackytude: Heh, past few weeks have been fun Friday's. End up staying late removing their "fun". But then they come in Monday with no interweb's. IT=1 User=0 :P [14:19] slackytude: Scan's in progress right now. Be about an hour before i can tell anything for sure. [14:19] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: "If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 mph, you're gonna see some serious shit." [14:20] est ce que bluetooth, ca veut dire "dent bleu" ou bien ??? [14:20] agentc0re, I like the no interwebs part ^-^ good bofh style [14:20] 2 weeks ago we had 3 people get 3 different viruses but they kept replicating and we found over 1200 instances total of all 3 combined. [14:20] Dad`: /join #slackware-fr [14:20] whoa [14:20] agentc0re|work, you should start betting on it [14:21] Dad no parlay vous francai' [14:21] more fun [14:22] Dad`: oui, dent=tooth et bleu=blue. [14:22] john_dee: do you see faad warnings in vlc's message window with the verbosity level set to 2? [14:22] gabriel (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) joined ##slackware. [14:23] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.205.236) joined ##slackware. [14:23] Granted they were the same instances on the same box, thank god. However it ate into the beginning of our weekend and pissed us off bad. But the viruses were keyloggers, and we work in a Medical environment with tons of patient info being typed in daily. No one seems to give a shit but us if the info gets leaked out. All they care about is their fsck'ing Youtube. [14:24] Alan_Hicks: sorry for not paying attention [14:24] Alan_Hicks: you're looking for printf [14:25] $ printf "%02d\n" 9 [14:25] agentc0re|work, sounds like the typical user to me. good to see you take it seriously. [14:26] Thanks :), only us geek's can appreciate this sort of thing i guess. [14:26] agentc0re|work: hmmm. a couple of months ago noone in medical environments cared about plain text wifi... [14:26] alienBOB, here it is. faad warning: Bitstream value not allowed by specification [14:26] agentc0re|work, probably :( [14:27] john_dee: I find a faad thread that tells me I have to recompile my vlc package... I use "--with-drm" which causes that exact error and the recompile must be without that option [14:27] My wifi is secured by a radius server that only allows authenticated PC's first then an authenticated user which all are quered from a specific group in AD. [14:27] I have the same error here with a MKV file [14:27] alienBOB, same here [14:27] Action: alienBOB knows what to do tonight [14:27] Your woman? [14:27] :) [14:27] [ in bed ] [14:27] YOUR woman [14:28] jar_corefile: Thanks. [14:28] :/ [14:28] My woman is locked up [14:28] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-16.net-89-3-215.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [14:28] alienBOB, could you drop a line here if you rebuild it please? [14:29] john_dee: Why don't you just take his build script and remove the --with-drm inside of it and rebuild it yourself? [14:31] john_dee: already building, but in a slow virtual machine (Qt4 takes ages) [14:33] slackytude: Already some winners.. lets see who! [14:33] agentc0re, well, why not :) i thought i could use xine for this one [14:33] agentc0re|work, remeber, BOFH style [14:34] alienBOB, it sure does. i built it yesterday on c2d 1gb. took 2.5 hours o_O [14:34] inetic (n=inetic@chello082119124030.chello.sk) joined ##slackware. [14:34] slackytude: I'm on it like white on rice in a snow storm in Antarctica! [14:34] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-16.net-89-3-215.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:34] agentc0re|work, lol [14:35] lotec (n=lotec@pool-96-228-178-93.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [14:38] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [14:39] E[m]ess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:39] alienBOB, btw, are you building full version? [14:39] alienBOB: speaking about vlc, are you working on a package/script for vlc on 64bit? (or is it done?) [14:40] antler: long done [14:40] john_dee: full version first [14:41] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [14:43] alienBOB: then i'm obviously looking in the wrong place. http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/vlc/build/ , which i've heard builds in a 64bit environment, but i've been unsuccessful. is the script/package you're referring to stored elsewhere? [14:44] Nick change: konus -> nxs|konus [14:44] alienBOB: actually, it builds fine, but running vlc is the issue. i don't remember the exact error message. [14:44] antler: tell me the error when you run vlc, the SlackBuild should work on slamd64 [14:45] alienBOB: ok, i'll build it again now. [14:47] Nick change: nxs|konus -> konus [14:47] Action: Zordrak is back [14:47] had to run out quickly earlier to take care of my missus [14:47] wb Zordrak. [14:49] and now im off again cos in all the comotion i havent had a chance to take a dump [14:49] tmi [14:50] :) I wonder why people are always so sensitive about that... earlier in the week someone didnt react well to being told that I solved all his SVN troubles while on the bog [14:51] rhys (n=rhys@129.22.192.110) left irc: "Leaving" [14:51] gabriel (n=gabriel@gw.csrg.inf.utfsm.cl) left irc: "Leaving" [14:51] Zordrak: see, if you'd explained it as "I solved all your SVN problems while taking a huge ubuntu on the bog" it would've been all good. [14:52] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:53] heh [14:53] Action: Zordrak is now on the bog :D [14:53] Zordrak: Dude, wtf are you doing? Updating your twitter for us as well letting everyone know you're taking a huge Ubuntu? [14:54] heh [14:54] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) joined ##slackware. [14:54] lol.. no cos for a start twitter < monkey spunk [14:54] yes Tremors is on [14:54] lotec: sweet! [14:55] Zordrak: concur. [14:55] suffice it to say the new version of putty on nokia e90 on latest firmware is *good* [14:55] thats the trouble with wifi [14:55] chatting with people on weird places [14:56] instead of wired places [14:56] the fonts+display on the last ver were *bad* even with a font addon pack [14:56] does a coffee shop count as a wired place? [14:56] slackytude: it gets worse.. this isnt wifi [14:56] it's HSDPA [14:56] .. you're tethering? [14:57] Zordrak, eh, Im glad its HSDPA. for a second there I thought you had a cat-5 in your bathroom [14:57] hrm...doesn't look like we have the e90 here in Canuckistan... [14:57] define(tethering); [14:57] pi31415, as long as it isnt a coffee shop toilette [14:57] ruhroh [14:57] j14159: Nokia E90 Communicator is full name [14:57] yep [14:57] looks like we only get 'em aftermarket/unlocked here, not on carriers. [14:58] got the company to buy mine outright [14:58] nice one [14:58] no link to carrier [14:58] muy espensivo [14:58] heh [14:58] no doubt [14:58] agentc0re|work: define(tethering); [14:59] Using your phone's 3g/tdma to connect to the internet. [14:59] I'm not even sure what a Nokia e90 is, might be a phone for all i know. [14:59] orite [14:59] yah [14:59] agentc0re|work: it's a brick that opens up to full qwerty [15:00] and is just about the only one that has its own keys for \|#~+=-_ etc [15:00] Zordrak: Ah kind of like the Nokia n800 [15:00] plus an 800px wide screen [15:00] its perfect for ssh terminal [15:00] had an E70 but the screen was only 3320px wide so it sucked [15:01] this is ubersweet :) [15:01] TFF PuTTY [15:03] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) joined ##slackware. [15:03] eh, putty [15:03] tr_ (n=tr@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:03] just wish i could turn off the standby so i dont lose screen light every 30s [15:03] slackytude: http://www.google.com/search?q+PuTTY [15:03] ahem [15:03] I know putty [15:04] ill not bother correcting my URL then :) [15:05] what did you mean by "eh, putty"? [15:05] I think it's pretty pathetic. [15:06] of course its better than no ssh [15:06] ++ [15:06] i dont know what id do without it [15:06] on symbian AND winblows [15:07] yeah [15:07] our university gives you internet access only after you login with ssh to your student account [15:07] lol [15:07] and for those students on windows, that means putty [15:07] good-uni [15:08] well, not the whole university in fact, just the CS part of it [15:08] aww [15:08] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-206388.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "ZzZzzZz" [15:08] skibur (n=skibur@12.197.205.236) left irc: "2 + 2 = 4 and 2 * 2 = 4? 2 is odd" [15:08] so, you see them windows users struggeling with ssh for the first time. click on desktop icon -> start session -> enter username&password -> have ugly black box on screen the whole time [15:09] whats ugly about the black? [15:09] Action: Zordrak prefers WoB [15:09] while me, and others using linux, get logged on automatically (using keys) in background and mount our stuff via sshfs, too ^-^ [15:09] as the actress said to the bishop [15:10] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423043.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:10] Zordrak, not the black part of it, but that it has to stay in foreground as reglar window [15:11] inetic (n=inetic@chello082119124030.chello.sk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:11] rather than... [15:12] arcaos_ (n=chatzill@190.177.190.5) joined ##slackware. [15:12] Zordrak, it being a background process [15:12] or service [15:13] meh [15:13] Action: Zordrak is now watching the second F1 practice session [15:14] How's Lewis doing? [15:14] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-71-104.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [15:14] not well [15:14] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:14] the McLaren jus-t isnt ready yet [15:15] What chanel? [15:15] s/n/nn/ [15:15] gonna take them till about spain to be challenging the front runners [15:15] bbc website [15:16] All sessions all season are gonna be available on bbc website [15:16] and interactive tv/website will give you the choice of two audio and three video feeds [15:16] bbc++ [15:17] even though the C stands for communists [15:20] Kerio2004 (n=Port@212.118.140.235) joined ##slackware. [15:21] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@200.158.124.249) left irc: "brb" [15:23] Nick change: firebird619 -> firebird_619 [15:23] Zordrak, streamed ? [15:24] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [15:24] yeah [15:24] via flash [15:25] Zordrak, link please [15:25] um no [15:25] bbc/f1 [15:25] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [15:26] dont see no live [15:26] country? [15:26] my ? pt [15:26] fail [15:26] :| [15:26] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.144.205) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:27] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-144-205.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:27] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-71-104.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:27] ogridd (n=ndambuki@212.49.88.34) joined ##slackware. [15:28] JasonosaJ (n=Jasonosa@pool-72-69-197-126.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:29] arcaos (n=chatzill@190.177.37.95) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:30] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:30] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [15:32] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:33] A person left his home directory writeable to anybody on a public linux system. I'm suprised nobody has dropped a "custom" .profile into his home directory. [15:33] cuba (n=cub@84.19.44.65) left irc: "Leaving" [15:34] sounds like you're about to fix that... [15:34] I should, but I would never. Not my style [15:35] at least leave him a message to close his stuff [15:35] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-144-205.net.novis.pt) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:35] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-144-205.net.novis.pt) joined ##slackware. [15:35] just move everything to a directory name '.. ' [15:40] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89-180-144-205.net.novis.pt) left irc: Client Quit [15:40] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.144.205) joined ##slackware. [15:42] In slackware, if I point my .bash_history -> /dev/null am I untraceable? or are there logs(as root for every user) I can set up to log every single keystroke. [15:42] where do i find my default DNS ? [15:43] lowkyalur: /etc/resolv.conf [15:43] ttysnoop [15:44] reallove: tyvm! [15:44] JasonosaJ, i think u can set up a keylogger, nothing to do with .bash_history [15:45] seriously man...wtf [15:45] or have it remove the .bash_history using a .bash_logout or something [15:46] what do u mean by untraceable [15:46] cause sshd make logs too [15:46] not for all bash activity , but logins [15:47] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-4-97.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:50] http://ventura.craigslist.org/sys/1093995982.html [15:50] lmao [15:50] 50 bucks for that relic [15:50] that is funny [15:51] i suppose some embedded solution could require a specific model of hard drive [15:51] i've seen manufacturing robots and telco equipment like that [15:51] eh? [15:51] this model of drive and with this particular firmware, or else [15:52] pi31415: yeah when i worked in the disk lab we had many orders like that [15:52] for specific firmwares and revs [15:52] mostly for POS systems [15:52] JasonosaJ (n=Jasonosa@pool-72-69-197-126.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:53] never heard of that [15:53] thats pretty sad [15:53] ogridd (n=ndambuki@212.49.88.34) left irc: Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) [15:53] it's called vendor lock in techniques ;) [15:53] and making tech support more manageable [15:54] yeah, but thats kinda hardcore [15:54] specific drive *and* firmware [15:54] otherwise we would see more digital cameras capable of writing to a plain usb mass storage such as thumb drives [15:55] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:55] slackytude: sometimes it was to the point of "we need disks with this model # and only revs that detect as 2.6GB" [15:55] nullboy, ye gods! [15:55] crazy stuff like that [15:55] heh, that reminds me of a question the guy from sales asked me [15:56] he wanted to know if we can stop people looking into MS SQL and get our scheme and stuff [15:56] "cant we encrypt that?" [15:56] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-4-97.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:57] uh lol [15:57] sure but it has to be decrypted at some point [15:57] yeah, well you can encrypt the data but not the layout [15:57] i don't know much about DBA [15:57] its a DB and it has tables with named coloumns [15:58] no way of changing that [15:58] i see that's like encrypting the boot sector [15:58] heh, yeah [15:58] you have to have at least something unencrypted [15:59] unless...bump da da dumm! FDE + TPM [15:59] YAY [15:59] yeah, I mean if we would use our own backend we could probably do something at great expense, but not if we use MSSQL server [16:00] they also asked if we could encrypt the dump of the database, which is just a text file with sql statements [16:00] that's do able [16:00] I kind of lied there a bit [16:00] lol [16:00] yeah [16:00] no no you didn't lie you just focused on a certain area [16:00] I dont want us to encrypt our customers backup tho [16:01] heh, well put [16:01] vor (n=s@bzq-79-176-100-225.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [16:01] hard enough to switch products as it is. the sql dump wont help them much [16:01] well encrypting client backups can add huge overheads to administration and maintenance tasks too [16:01] Lord_Khelben (n=null@79.103.242.156) joined ##slackware. [16:01] yeah, that too [16:02] as well as complexity to any recovery effort if something went wrong [16:02] Action: slackytude nods [16:02] not going down thhat path if I can help it [16:03] gewt (n=roflfail@you.need.to.stfu-kthx.net) joined ##slackware. [16:03] sh0ne (n=sh0ne@79.101.172.49) left irc: "Leaving" [16:04] should gutenprint take a while to decompresss and install on a 600MHZ P3? [16:04] yes [16:04] or did my installation stall -.-? [16:04] nope [16:04] gewt: just let it go it will be fine [16:04] k. [16:05] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [16:05] bijit (n=benji@190.241.15.48) joined ##slackware. [16:05] whats a good radius web managment? [16:06] vi [16:06] heh [16:07] sh0ne (n=Unknown@79.101.172.49) joined ##slackware. [16:07] do you use slackware as a server, ro desktop distro? [16:08] both [16:08] Desktops Laptops and servers [16:09] :o zsh is being installed [16:09] :D [16:09] sh0ne (n=Unknown@79.101.172.49) left irc: Connection reset by peer [16:09] sh0ne (n=Unknown@79.101.172.49) joined ##slackware. [16:09] slackware is the only OS installed on my laptop and i also use it on my home fileserver [16:09] gcc-g++ will take a while to install [16:09] :/ [16:09] or not. [16:10] heh [16:10] gutenprint is the only thing really taking long [16:10] is ruby included :o [16:10] yeah [16:11] yay [16:11] ruby-1.8.7_p72-i486-2 [16:11] but why emacs :S [16:11] Why emacs what? [16:11] gewt: also; http://slackbuilds.org/ [16:12] :D [16:12] yeah, I ask myself that too. Why emacs? why? [16:12] :P [16:13] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.97.149) joined ##slackware. [16:14] sh0ne (n=Unknown@79.101.172.49) left irc: Client Quit [16:14] rolfo: if you see this, just e-mail me. irc is not made for "leaving messages". [16:14] sh0ne (n=Unknown@79.101.172.49) joined ##slackware. [16:14] ogridd (n=ndambuki@212.49.88.34) joined ##slackware. [16:14] I'm still here. [16:15] you answered me while I was away earlier. I can't find any info on the dd buffer thing you mentioned. [16:15] rolfo: you mean yesterday? [16:15] nullboy: yes [16:15] rolfo: can you refresh us? [16:15] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:16] okay: [16:17] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn156.91-127-18.t-com.sk) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [16:17] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn94.78-99-194.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [16:17] I was testing disk copy tools on a disk with consistent errors. using dd and dd_rescue under slackware and dd under freebsd. I get a disk imag with less errors using freebsd (smaller error areas) than with linux. 2x with each tool I get same results. [16:18] its a dd buffer problem. 1) don't use dd_rescue, use ddrescue [16:18] i agree there, ddrescue seems to work better for me too [16:18] 2) if you use dd with conv=noerror,sync then you're using the wrong tool [16:19] 3) if you use dd (you shouldn't) or ddrescue on a disk with any errors ALWAYS use direct access (-d under ddrescue or iflag direct under dd) [16:19] if you don't then you will miss good sectors with the bad. [16:20] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:20] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:20] it's a kernel caching issue that's resolved with direct access. [16:20] (or have fun with /dev/raw) [16:20] keoni (n=chadh@208.106.15.140) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:20] starbrze (n=dani@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] raw is fun. [16:21] ooh [16:21] on to y already :D [16:22] reference? [16:22] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:22] fevel (n=fevel@189.106.39.40) left irc: [16:22] installign slackware. [16:23] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:23] is there a good memory usage monitoring app for the typical dumbass? i have a leak somewhere and am unqualified to diagnose it. [16:24] htop can show memory usage and processes [16:24] uptime and cpu load as well [16:24] htop and top gives differente memory usage values [16:24] and it has a shiny graph for cpu/swap/cpu usage [16:24] different aproaches , i think [16:24] there's no ref out there that I know of. It popped up on the forensic focus list awhile back based on work we did at my previous shop. [16:24] and it uses human readable uh...i forget the word [16:25] can anyone explain why htop and top measures different memory sizes ? [16:25] dunno [16:26] readign ALL physical volumes really does take a logn time doesn't it... [16:26] rolfo: drop me an e-mail and I'll send you my DoD presentation on it. [16:27] SpacePlod: CC please :) [16:27] gotta love ##slackware [16:28] DoD presentations for free [16:28] you dont get that on #ubuntu [16:28] rworkman: of course! [16:28] i can has DoD? [16:28] dhabyx_ (n=dhabyx@190.148.119.187) joined ##slackware. [16:28] that is true. [16:28] so this is the nullboy from nobofarm. [16:28] SpacePlod: pm ok? [16:28] gewt: i know nothing about what you speak of [16:28] nobofarm, eh [16:28] filipe_xD, hey man! :D [16:28] nullboy: sure. [16:29] noobfarm* [16:30] SpacePlod: forensic focus - any good links to share? [16:30] Patzy (n=somethin@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [16:30] gewt, I put you on nobofarm too ^-^ [16:30] vor: I'll see if I can find the link. [16:30] SpacePlod, please [16:30] slackytude, :P [16:31] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn94.78-99-194.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [16:31] SpacePlod:thxs [16:31] sako (n=sako@rrcs-64-183-104-107.west.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:31] only 1335 quotes [16:31] which one of you made the ubuntard.com site [16:31] you are a genius [16:31] once it gets to 1337' i'm getting a screenshot [16:31] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-13.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: "http://v4nelle.wordpress.com" [16:32] link to discussion of FF: http://www.forensicfocus.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2557 [16:33] i want to get a PI license for California [16:33] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.144.205) left irc: "leaving" [16:33] nullboy, O_o [16:33] i can't think of a hostname [16:33] ogridd (n=ndambuki@212.49.88.34) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [16:33] :/ [16:33] that way, when they decide to screw us all i have it [16:33] Kaapa (n=Somethin@89.180.144.205) joined ##slackware. [16:33] nullboy, Im not if Im about to laugh or cover in fear [16:33] *sure [16:33] lol [16:34] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [16:34] nullboy, private eye has a certain ring to it, tho [16:34] Im looking forward to see it on FOX [16:34] or possibly COPS [16:34] eventually it will be required to do computer forensics work and if it will happen in any state...CA is the place [16:34] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [16:35] nullboy, you want to do PI specialized in computer forensic? [16:35] yeah [16:35] i mean dang, i already do data recovery to a certain degree anyway [16:35] freack (n=frk@unaffiliated/freack) joined ##slackware. [16:35] heh, nice idea. is there a market for that? [16:36] sure, small to mid size businesses that have an IT person who isn't a super techy one [16:36] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:37] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] gewt: darkstar [16:38] gewt: i dont use slackware anymore but i think thats the coolest default hostname ever :P [16:38] SpacePlod:thxs for the link [16:38] makes you feel like a l337 hacker [16:39] vor: np (I'm at work, so a little slow here) [16:39] harmattan (n=harmatta@213.37.52.195.static.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [16:39] sako, that is the coolest defauly hostname ever :P [16:39] gewt: did you figure out a name? [16:40] yeah [16:40] i chose darkstar [16:40] :P [16:40] cool :) [16:40] are you installing slack? [16:40] yeah [16:40] awesome :) first time? [16:40] i've tried it before, but I plan on sticking with slack for a while this time [16:41] good choice [16:41] nullboy, I hope you make it. I would be cool if I could drop stuff like "I know this PI who told me" in everyday conversations [16:41] you will learn soooo much i love slack [16:41] *it would be [16:41] slackytude: hahaha [16:41] lol [16:41] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [16:42] i'm going to post a ddrescue log in a few hours...this disk is holier than the pope [16:42] i should put slack on my P1 \o/ [16:42] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:42] but...it only boots form HDD. [16:42] gewt: install on a different system and move the disk back over [16:43] whcih reminds me I should get data off this oen HDD for my aunt, and put slack on it. [16:43] :P [16:43] if i disapear from the intertubes blame it on the thunderstorm [16:43] i connect through my VPS [16:43] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:43] bob_slacker (n=bob_slac@201.47.149.120) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:43] Pig_Pen: can we assume you left in a ball of fire and blue smoke? [16:43] as I have FAILDSL and unstable power [16:43] yup [16:44] o_O [16:44] my dns server won't work [16:44] Pig_Pen, good way to go [16:44] imho, of course [16:44] i hear the world wont end in a bang but a whimper [16:45] i really look forward to the Earth ending with a gigantic space rock [16:45] when i die i wanna die with a smile on my face [16:46] just something huge, dense, and fast [16:46] *POOPH* [16:46] or a coronal mass ejection from the sun that fries everything like bacon [16:46] I have a coronal mass ejection every night. [16:47] lmao [16:47] eww! i wonder who does the laundry at ccfreak2k's house [16:47] _juan (n=juan@190.75.87.214) joined ##slackware. [16:48] <_juan> hi! how do i make a man pkg? [16:48] I do my own laundry. [16:48] ... [16:48] my np scritp broke [16:48] thats a relief ccfreak2k [16:48] and i can't use my own personal dns server [16:49] _juan: man pages are included with any complete package [16:49] AND i can't update my dang IP for editdns [16:49] <_juan> Pig_Pen my ffmpeg package did not include a man entry [16:50] hmm, it should be in the source then, you can just add them to /usr/man/man1 or somewhere in there [16:50] hcfd (n=hcfd@host86-131-173-46.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:50] Only 4 hours work to get a working quicklaunch widget on KDE 4.2.1........... [16:50] _juan: there did you get the package? [16:51] <_juan> so i copied it from the web, saved it as txt, compressed it to ffmpeg.gz and moved it to /usr/share/man/man1/ [16:51] gewt, whats the problem? [16:51] _juan: where did you get the package though? [16:51] run man ffmpeg and see what you get [16:51] my perosnal dns server exploded [16:51] it stopped slaving [16:52] <_juan> from slackbuilds [16:52] <_juan> No manual entry for ffmpeg [16:52] Zordrak, still like kde 4.2? :P [16:52] the slackbuilds ffmpeg build script should have setup the manpages for you. it does for me. [16:52] explodepkg and see whats inside [16:53] like opening christmas presents :D [16:53] oh god do epxlodepkg in a different directory though [16:53] slackytude: yes.. i just dont like how hard it is to find the source for a particular part of it since the widget itself has no documentation other than an email address [16:53] yeah, always keep a /tmp/pkg for such tasks [16:53] mkdir exploded && cd exploded && explodepkg ../package.tgz [16:53] can someone tell me if gewt.net will actually give a dns response? [16:53] it's dns server i mean [16:54] slackytude: was a bug that was fixed in a latest brangh as well as trunk.. but after the -current kdebase [16:54] <_juan> command not found [16:54] dig gives nothing [16:54] <_juan> cant i just create an entry? [16:54] [b4@Tranquility ~]$ host darkstar.devnode.org [16:54] Host darkstar.devnode.org not found: 5(REFUSED) [16:55] umm [16:55] gewt, I get an answer from gewt.net [16:55] i don't [16:56] should I go complain to at&t? [16:56] i done it before, i forget to use --mandir=/usr/man and have to move man pages before running makepkg, but i think there is a symlink set up as /usr/share/man that points to /usr/man to correct such errors [16:56] gewt: what does /etc/resolv.conf look like? [16:56] it lists 66.246.75.70 [16:56] which is the proper IP [16:56] but when I use that only, no dns resolutions work [16:57] k. [16:57] works now. [16:57] WTF [16:57] because i remvoed it [16:57] _juan: are you even on slackware? [16:57] _juan: you should have explodepkg... [16:57] dig @66.246.75.70 IN A darkstart.devnode.org [16:57] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-030-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:57] that works for you? [16:58] yes -.- [16:58] im getting a response as well gewt [16:58] WTF [16:58] is it my router...? [16:58] gewt: what if your gateway set to? [16:58] or at&T being retarded? [16:58] 192.168.1.1 [16:58] ns1.linode.com. 1501 IN A 69.93.127.10 [16:59] <_juan> i am running slackware 12.2 [16:59] i get nothing from my house [16:59] it works from the host running the dns server [16:59] and any other location [16:59] but not my house -.- [16:59] should I blame my router or modem? [16:59] hm... [16:59] i can check that [16:59] traceroute? [17:00] but it involves disabling bridge mode on my modem [17:00] im really surprised no-one is interested in HOW to get a quicklaunch in -current's kde4 [17:00] <_juan> nullboy, i was not running it as root [17:00] traceorute is being a fail [17:00] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-16.net-89-3-215.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:00] it died after hop 6 [17:00] 7 is * * * [17:00] hwiesinger (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-131.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [17:00] but it can tarceroute [17:00] o_O [17:00] gewt: tcptraceroute [17:01] not installed. [17:01] but tracerouet works. [17:01] install [17:01] ALL: pastebin.slackadelic.com is unavailable until further notice [17:01] Dominian, any reason? [17:01] pastebin.ca ftw :) [17:02] dunno fi I should blame my router or at&t [17:02] Dominian, oh and check noobfarm submissions, please [17:02] Zordrak, nifty! [17:02] that's down as well [17:02] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423043.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:02] :( [17:02] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423043.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:02] Everything hosted on slackadelic.com for hosting of web sites is down until further notice [17:02] 6 151.164.93.49 25.991 ms 25.851 ms 26.521 ms [17:02] 7 * * * [17:02] 8 151.164.250.226 24.437 ms 25.614 ms 25.087 ms [17:02] this include slackwaregallery.org, slackadelic.com, and noobfarm.org [17:02] ca = slackadelic? [17:02] o nf [17:03] Zordrak: no [17:03] ^ [17:03] It appears there's an exploit either in a) apache or b) wordpress [17:03] ow [17:03] and thank god OSSEC caught it and wanred me [17:03] Action: straterra picks b [17:03] ah crap [17:03] wordpress probably [17:03] haha [17:03] Dominian: wtf? [17:03] wordpress is known for its remote exploits [17:03] gg [17:03] I found some files in /tmp/.ICE-unix [17:03] still trying to figure out howt hey uploaded them [17:04] dang [17:04] whatever happened to htwl? :) [17:04] should I take the modem out pf bridge mode and eliminate the router? [17:04] htwl [17:04] htMl [17:04] what kind of files? [17:04] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423043.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:04] hm... [17:04] i'll do that [17:04] bbl [17:04] i'll see if it wants to be a faiure. [17:04] Dominian: what is that directory because I have files in there too [17:04] if i have the same issue when JUST using the modem [17:05] at&t can say goodbye to em for internet [17:05] harmattan (n=harmatta@213.37.52.195.static.user.ono.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [17:05] damn , aplications uses a lot of memory nowdays [17:05] booteco (n=booteco@189.114.238.199) left irc: "Leaving" [17:05] <_juan> nullboy after exploding, what file should i be looking for? [17:05] audacious is using me 111 MB [17:05] DeeeeP: bad ones [17:05] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:05] _juan: umm....see if there are manpages in there [17:05] dartmouth, thats normal, which is why you can hide stuff there [17:05] dadar X session tracking [17:05] doh [17:05] is normal for X session tracking [17:05] but what bugs me.. its chmod 777 [17:06] _juan: look, the bottomline is, the SBo build sets up manpages so something is wrong with whatever you did [17:06] Dominian, sticky bit? [17:06] rofl at the amount of exploits for wordpress [17:07] slackytude: http://pastebin.com/m43f303a [17:07] phrag: scary huh [17:07] There arent that many for wordpres..lots for addons [17:07] seriously =P [17:07] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:07] might as well install phpBB too ;) [17:07] dartmouth, eh, clean your tmp [17:07] slackytude: rm -r *? [17:07] heh [17:08] dartmouth, put that into your rc.local_shutdown [17:08] yeah its sticky bit [17:08] ran rkhunter already runing clamscan now [17:08] nah /tmp/.. heh [17:08] ehh, yeah, of course [17:08] hah [17:09] b00jit (n=boojit@gw.carter.to) joined ##slackware. [17:09] Looks like I will be looking for a new blog software [17:09] Uh..why? [17:10] Just keep wordpress up to date [17:10] Also, you can secure PHP in such a way where it doesn't even matter if someone exploits it [17:11] straterra: I don't believe it [17:12] unplug the network cable [17:12] it sounds similar to "Who cares if someone cracks your Java program, they're still in the JVM right?" [17:13] Don't believe..what? [17:13] straterra: dud worfdpress is up to date [17:13] That's how GOOD security goes [17:13] latest version [17:13] nice nice nice nice nice [17:13] i connected directly to the modem [17:13] and i still can't use my own dns server [17:13] It's not just about latest version..its about minimizing the effect of exploited software [17:14] i'd rather use my VPS than a localnetwork one [17:14] >< [17:14] so yeah, at&t forces me to use their dns servers [17:14] straterra: I don't believe that a person should be comfortable allowing people to break into their system [17:14] pi31415: I didn't say that. [17:14] those files were pushed as the www user [17:14] That's my point [17:14] so its an exxxploit I'm guessing in wordpress [17:15] That's why OpenBSD is so secure..and why selinux is a good thing if you have time [17:15] gewt: dig @4.2.2.1 IN A google.com [17:15] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [17:15] someone exploits my wordpress instance and uses it to push viruses to other people's browsers, but thank goodness the server is working great! [17:15] ccfreak2k, that works [17:15] straterra: if there's a problemw ith PHP on my install.. then its going to be a problem in all Slackware installs.. I'm running stock PHP from Slackware [17:15] but 66.246.75.70 doesn't [17:16] and every single other person can use that, except me [17:16] Well, 4.2.2.1 is operated by level3. [17:16] nothing like a nice fresh 0-Day [17:16] so at&t only allows you to use authorized dns servers? [17:16] ooooo what the fuck... [17:16] Action: gewt tests on 192.112.36.4 [17:16] Dominian: and thats correct [17:17] that was helpful [17:17] The default configuration for PHP/Apache can be secured a LOT [17:17] straterra: I'm looking through those fles [17:17] it references noobfarm [17:17] ont the site itself [17:17] but noob farm is referenced [17:17] why can't I use my own dns server? [17:17] pi31415: I'd rather some of my html/php files have malicious code in it than the system be rooted and used for say..DDoS [17:18] Dominian: I have some software for you to run [17:18] It's called bsdsecurity [17:18] straterra: so far thngs are fine [17:18] straterra: it appears they tried to start an httpd process [17:18] and it failed [17:18] Basically..it watches files you want watched..and emails you with their change as soon as they are changed [17:18] majikman (n=adam@ip65-44-150-234.z150-44-65.customer.algx.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:18] but why can't I use my own personal dns server? [17:18] yet everyone else can? [17:18] straterra: ossec does that already [17:19] damn.. wish I had more IPs for slackadelic [17:19] be a lot easier to track this down [17:19] is it because at&t doesn't allow it or something? [17:19] although theyd din't hit noobfarm.. or I would've seen this crap in noobfarm's logs [17:19] Dominian, the offending files belong to wwwuser? [17:19] Dominian: well..if you change your apache config..it'll be that easy [17:19] Nick change: signal11_ -> signal11 [17:20] You give each website their own user..and apache forks and runs each website under its own user [17:20] slackytude: yep [17:20] straterra: already working on it [17:20] :) [17:20] and going to chroot them into their own directories I think [17:21] eh, lots of chroots [17:21] havent done that in years [17:21] arcaos (n=chatzill@190.177.129.146) joined ##slackware. [17:21] boojit (n=boojit@gw.carter.to) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:21] j0z (n=LINUX@200-96-5-156.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:22] Nick change: b00jit -> boojit [17:22] Dominian, how do you know they were trying to start a httpd process? [17:22] seriously [17:22] Dominian, sorry for being annoying ^-^ [17:22] i wanna use my own dns server [17:24] slackytude: ./xh -s "/usr/sbin/httpd" -d -p m.pid ./cycmech [17:24] i want to smash my modem and move form at&t to dslextreme [17:24] >< [17:24] my line stats are good afaik [17:25] Dominian, is that from that file? [17:25] BAM! [17:26] energymech.net [17:26] irc bot [17:26] looks like someone is using it to exploit servers and run a bot net [17:26] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75.145.67.114) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021906]" [17:26] hmm, there was something in the news about a irc botnet [17:26] yeah [17:26] anyhwa.. hoem time [17:26] dang dude [17:27] arcaos__ (n=chatzill@190.177.129.146) joined ##slackware. [17:27] http://jwulf.livejournal.com/18128.html [17:28] Kerio2004 (n=Port@212.118.140.235) left irc: Connection reset by peer [17:28] arcaos__ (n=chatzill@190.177.129.146) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:29] nullboy, nice find [17:29] from 2006 tho [17:29] arcaos__ (n=chatzill@190.177.129.146) joined ##slackware. [17:30] looks like the same tho [17:30] The hacker created a " " dir in the /tmp structure. There were two programs; stealth and cycmech executing and flooding IRC with useless text. [17:31] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [17:34] how do i start sshd? [17:35] run sh /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd start [17:35] Action: lowkyalur is a bit stupid, and she knows. [17:35] and chmod 755 it so it runs every time [17:35] i dont have rc.sshd [17:36] lowkyalur, are you rnning slackware? [17:36] are you even using slackware? [17:36] yep [17:36] hehe i always forget to ask this :) [17:36] lowkyalur: does ls /var/log/packages/|grep openssh [17:36] print anything ? [17:36] mebbe i didnt install the package? [17:36] ls -alh /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd [17:37] nullboy: this i see [17:37] then: chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd [17:37] oki [17:37] heh [17:37] thanks alot [17:37] *now* do what Lord_Khelben said [17:37] lowkyalur: didn't i tell you to run /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd and you said that you don't have rc.sshd ? [17:38] Lord_Khelben: is there...so i guess i have the package, huh? [17:38] Lord_Khelben: probably just tired to use tab complete with ./ [17:38] Lord_Khelben: yep. there was no such thing in ls [17:38] Lord_Khelben, she tried to execute it without +x set [17:38] which won't work if the file is -x [17:38] fevel (n=fevel@201.17.112.252) joined ##slackware. [17:38] slackytude: i guessed that that is why i said sh /etc/etc [17:39] it should complete with tab [17:39] Lord_Khelben, ahh, true [17:39] anyway. it doesn't matter since it worked :) [17:39] mysterious mysteries [17:39] gnaaa. i should go to bed and get some sleep. [17:40] 4GB swap [17:40] thank you very much all of you! [17:40] arcaos_ (n=chatzill@190.177.190.5) left irc: Connection timed out [17:40] wow 4gb swap [17:40] i have 256mb :) [17:42] just found a good util to measure memory , pmap , comes with slackware :D [17:43] DeeeeP, nice [17:43] yep [17:44] hm [17:44] slackytude, pmap -x pid [17:44] roccity_ (n=quassel@125-238-240-46.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [17:44] there's no man page [17:44] i assume that php isn't configured by default? [17:44] yeah, just tried it [17:44] ok :) [17:44] gewt, configured? [17:44] s/installed/ [17:44] what gave you that idea? [17:44] its there if you did a full install [17:45] i did a full install =D [17:45] PHPwill be installed yes, but not used by apache by default [17:47] arcaos (n=chatzill@190.177.129.146) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:49] man, linuxhaters is kinda depressing [17:50] i'm a linuxhater hater! [17:51] ow can i check connection with printer ? [17:51] how* [17:51] print [17:52] _juan (n=juan@190.75.87.214) left irc: "Leaving" [17:52] i have pronter connected to LPT but in /dev/have lp0 lp1 lp2 [17:53] It's kinda sad Slackware's default security is...well...heh [17:54] alienBOB: i would guess you dont recommend the vlc pkg for 12.2 on -current and new build advised [17:54] wish to grow up CUPS there [17:54] but have to know on which printer really run [17:54] :/ [17:54] Zordrak: the 12.2 build should work in -current [17:54] oo [17:54] tnx [17:55] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@81.193.128.34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:55] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:55] thinking that mirroring your repo could take some time to finish :) [17:57] set wget to "crazy psycho mode" [17:57] ... [17:57] lol [17:58] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:58] BrawnF1 mode? [17:59] Action: Zordrak might dump kopete for amsn depending upon how good it is these days [17:59] roccity_ (n=quassel@125-238-240-46.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) left irc: "No Ping reply in 90 seconds." [18:00] roccity_ (n=quassel@125-238-240-46.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [18:02] just an observation... it bugs me that the sbins are not in non-root PATHs by default [18:02] Err..why? [18:02] That's..the point of sbin [18:02] weee i just got another data recovery gig [18:02] another laptop disk [18:02] just seems like security by obscurity and therefore pointless [18:03] if they dont have the perms fine [18:03] they cant run them [18:03] i'd consider security through obscurity if the path was the only attempt to secure it [18:03] but why hide them when a `find` will show htdem up anyway [18:03] It's not about hiding them [18:03] It's about organization [18:06] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[18:07] most of the programs in sbin can be ran by users too [18:07] so long as they know it's installed and manually specify the path [18:07] for example /sbin/lspci works fine [18:08] but supposedly a user will not need to run it [18:08] there some funny things about that too. like iwconfig...users can run it but when users run iwconfig, network keys are not displayed. if root runs it, you can read the network keys [18:08] nmap shows same behaviour [18:09] same for ifconfig [18:09] yeah.. but nmap isnt sbin [18:09] ah, ok [18:09] I still don't see the valid point of the argument [18:10] not that it necessarily should be [18:10] just means all my slack boxes where i have a user account i have to go add 3 sbins to the path to make running the box not a pain in the arris [18:10] eh [18:11] you should script a patch then [18:12] i just keep a modded /etc/profile [18:12] http://darkstar.devnode.org [18:13] It works! ^-^ [18:13] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "link closed" [18:13] i'm in ur gibson, hacking your garbage files [18:13] :( [18:13] garbage files - heh. That was funny. [18:14] http://darkstar.devnode.org/phpsysinfo [18:14] ... [18:14] i enabled php? [18:14] Channel flood from gewt -- kicking [18:14] wtf? [18:14] gewt kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [18:14] lol [18:14] majikman (n=adam@ip65-44-150-234.z150-44-65.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] gewt (n=roflfail@you.need.to.stfu-kthx.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] Action: gewt blames firefoxz. [18:14] hehe the hackers movie with jolie ? [18:14] Lord_Khelben: yeah [18:15] it works. [18:15] k. [18:15] gewt: umm you probably want to disable that sysinfo page [18:15] that's bad [18:15] now we all know your internal subnet scheme [18:15] i've used them before. [18:15] nullboy, i don't care much :P [18:15] along with drivers loaded [18:15] with means we can guess versions and such [18:16] System Information: Darkstar.gewt.net (192.168.1.10) [18:16] i mostly use it to brag about using slackware [18:17] communicator (n=abc@89.155.14.206) joined ##slackware. [18:18] question: [18:18] how do I delete text in vi? [18:18] i thought i was the only P-3 cpu [18:18] when delete doesn't remove text? [18:18] http://braid-game.com/news/?p=364 << interessting comments [18:19] nvm [18:19] gewt: you're probably using elvis instead of vim which doesn't update the screen as often [18:19] d [18:19] :D [18:20] gewt, x deletes chars [18:20] eh [18:20] d works too :p [18:20] e01 (n=OSCorp01@194.141.47.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:20] you might like to keep this at your kb: http://www.coglib.com/~jcordasc/onsite/vi-ref.pdf [18:21] when i do run configure, my computer panics or something :S [18:21] always if i got x running [18:22] cHiOs (n=chio@CPE-65-29-166-235.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:23] ohh.. amsn stopped at slack11 [18:24] i use the svn amsn version. besides being super ugly its the best im client [18:24] lol [18:24] i like the dirty bird [18:25] which is the dirty bird ? pidgin ? [18:25] hehe yeah [18:25] yeah , amsn its ugly [18:25] I like mcabber - I rather use Jabber than MSN [18:25] msn may be the worst protocol, but everyone else uses it :( [18:25] kk.. will take a llok tomorrow [18:25] so most people are stuck with it [18:25] most of my friends/work contacts use AIM [18:26] i also tried emesene,kmess,and the java one cant remember the name [18:28] Lord_Khelben: choose your friends wisely! [18:28] hehe [18:28] john_dee (n=jd@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [18:28] citizen42alpha (n=citizen4@C-59-100-83-93.bri.connect.net.au) left irc: "Wow! What a great client! Bersirc 2.2 [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ]" [18:29] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [18:29] fevel (n=fevel@201.17.112.252) left irc: [18:30] j14159 (n=jeremy@154.5.76.16) left irc: "weekend!" 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O_o" [19:08] I have to say no matter how many times someone shoves a Ubuntu based cd in my face it still cant measure up to slackware ..... I just went 10 rounds with the latest ubuntu clone called Moon OS [19:10] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:10] I have to use an initrd to bring up the scsi controller. I get everything booting up properly (seeing the scsi controller) when i have / on an ATA adapter. But when I try to boot from the first disk on the SCSI controller, the initrd complains that it can't mount / on /dev/sda3. [19:11] In looking at the dmesg, I can see that when booting from sda, the scsi adapter isn't brought up yet. How can I call this from within the initrd? [19:11] ie "initiate MPT bringup" [19:11] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-423043.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:12] yaroslav_h (n=yaroslav@95.37.249.130) joined ##slackware. [19:13] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [19:14] howdy slackers [19:15] noobish: if that's a problem because the module is not loaded yet, why don't you built it into the kernel? [19:16] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-168-153.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] i should i guess [19:16] hello Pig_Pen [19:16] Heya,folks...How's all for the day and/or night ? [19:17] but I still need the initrd to work [19:17] noobish: else, you can rebuild the initrd using --preload=module [19:17] hi Pig_Pen [19:17] why do you need the initrd ? [19:17] i built the initrd by specifying the modules I needed with -m [19:17] noobish: that the module is there doesn't mean it will be loaded [19:17] you can build the module in the initrd but the easiest way is to compile it in the kernel [19:17] noobish: with --preload you tell that :) [19:18] gbonvehim: I know. I'm saying that -m already did the job [19:18] initrd is is yucky! if i go though the trouble of building a kernel i would take the time to trim the fat & change a few modules to embedded thus making an initrd unnecessary [19:18] noobish: mmm, then, what's the problem? :) [19:18] well I need the generic kernel [19:18] so i need the initrd [19:19] so the problem is the initrd won't recognize the scsi devices [19:19] and I'm trying to load / on a scsi device [19:19] theres four kernels to choose from and two dont need an initrd [19:19] and those two won't work for these adapters apparently [19:20] wow, i guess you really do need an initrd [19:20] noobish: is the module for the scsi controller loaded when you boot ? [19:20] you're not as noobish as your nick says :D [19:20] ah i still am [19:20] most of the time scsi controllers take some time to scan the bus [19:20] have you tried the wait option so that the process wait 3-5 secs ? [19:20] when i try hugesmp.s for instance, the scsi adapter is loaded too late [19:21] no i didn't try wait [19:21] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-135-100.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [19:21] what's that lilo boot syntax? [19:21] it is -w option in mkinitrd [19:21] this PC i am using now will barf & choke and ever get past POST to boot with an IDE/PATA drive, it only gets past POST & boots with a SATA drive [19:21] noobish: def try wait ... I need it for a usb keyboard (encrypted setup) [19:21] harmattan (n=harmatta@213.37.52.195.static.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:22] my adaptec takes at least 5 secs to properly initialise the bus and find the drives, so if you have set up the modules correctly [19:22] i guess with the wait it will work fine [19:22] I built those IN my kernel [19:22] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] no module for scsi. [19:22] my exact problem is described here and the solution I've been using when booting / from hda device: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slack-12.2-installation-problems-with-lsi-scsi-mptbase-error-messages-690176/ [19:23] yeah me too, but he uses the stock slack kernel [19:23] wait sounds promising [19:23] i was mad the day i put it together, i have plenty of lightly used pata drives to use, and the dang thing made me go out and drop some coins on a new sata drive [19:23] noobish: you can uncompress and mount initrd file and see if there's some script to edit to introduce the wait command [19:23] yeah i did see a wait-for-root file in the tree [19:23] with empty contents [19:24] you don't need to mess with the tree. mkinitrd will make it for you [19:24] you may have to boot with the CD rom if it will let you and you can build a custom kernel and/or just only need to rebuild the initrd image [19:24] but i don't think it'll work with the rd [19:24] initrd/linuxrc should be the script [19:25] instead I will try the wait option with the hugesmp kernel [19:25] noobish: well, this may help if you that doesn't work: http://www.opennet.ru/docs/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO-11.html [19:25] doesn't the hugesmp kernel have the scsi controller built in ? [19:25] yes [19:25] it wouldn't need anything [19:25] but it fails to initialize peroperly [19:25] as seen in that site i posted [19:25] noobish: there it explains about initrd/linuxrc [19:27] Nick change: firebird619 -> firebird_619 [19:28] jar_corefile (n=jar_core@76.210.68.106) left irc: "Leaving" [19:28] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [19:29] if you try that howto have in mind that the mkinitrd syntax shown there is for redhat [19:29] heh, alien doing it again: http://www.slackware.com/~alien/tools/mkinitrd_command_generator.sh [19:29] yes alienbob's command generator rules [19:31] bijit (n=benji@190.241.15.48) left irc: "leaving" [19:31] yaroslav_h (n=yaroslav@95.37.249.130) left ##slackware. [19:33] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [19:33] . [19:34] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:35] Nick change: firebird619 -> firebird_619 [19:36] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [19:37] hi, using slackware 12.2, how can I check that my laptop's camera is working? [19:37] Nick change: firebird619 -> firebird_619 [19:37] so i tried increasing wait from 1 second to 6 in the initrd [19:37] Nick change: firebird_619 -> firebird619 [19:37] but nothing new on dmesg [19:37] without installing luvcview [19:38] i see the correct .ko file is loaded, but no line that initiates bringup for the scsi controller [19:38] blkdg: you can check the output of the command "dmesg" to see if there are any kernel messages about the camera [19:38] also if there is a /dev/videoX device [19:39] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [19:39] blkdg: i believe that "cheese webcam booth" comes with slack-12.2 once you do what Lord_Khelben said [19:39] noobish: if the correct module is loaded then it should find the controller. are you sure you load the correct one ? [19:40] yeah, like i said this all works fine if / is on an ATA controller. It loads the init, the same module, and initiates scsi bringup [19:40] blkdg: Do you have a youtube account? you could go to the live upload section to see if any output displays. [19:40] the kopete instant messaging application from kde3 that is included in slackware 12.2 has webcam support so you could check there too [19:40] the kopete4 doesn't have [19:40] btw.. good evening Lord_Khelben , agentc0re =) [19:41] hello dtanner [19:41] Sup dtanner. How goes it? [19:41] goes good thanks, yourself ? [19:41] It's Friday and I'm just now home from work, so it's good! :D [19:41] your seet for the weekend then =) [19:42] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [19:42] dtanner: Not quite. Need to go to the Liquor store and pick up some different kinds of beers that i want to try. [19:43] mannynix (n=mannynix@201.164.97.149) left irc: "later" [19:43] Thanks Lord_Khelben , dtanner and agentc0re [19:43] blkdg: does it work ? [19:43] yw blkdg [19:43] assuming it is working :P [19:43] checking and babysitting. [19:44] agentc0re: ah ha , look for this one -> Widmer <- very good beer [19:45] oh i think i know what the prob is [19:45] i need to load the mptscsih module in the rd as well [19:45] how do you specify the order within init? [19:46] from left to right on the mkiitrd cmd line? [19:46] *mkinitrd [19:48] no youtube account agentc0re, kopete does not see a device Lord_Khelben , i'm looking at the dmesg now [19:48] noobish: it couldn't be any other way. if the right modules were in the initrd then it would work [19:49] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.180.191) joined ##slackware. [19:49] dmesg | grep cam [19:49] usb 1-3: Product: Acer Crystal Eye webcam [19:49] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Acer Crystal Eye webcam (064e:a103) [19:49] Channel flood from blkdg -- kicking [19:49] input: Acer Crystal Eye webcam as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:12.2/usb1/1-3/1-3:1.0/input/input6 [19:49] blkdg kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [19:49] well before it worked fine because when i'm loading / off hda, it doesn't need mpt fusion driver in initrd, so it gets loaded properly when the real kernel starts [19:49] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-39-97.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:49] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [19:50] sako (n=sako@rrcs-64-183-104-107.west.biz.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [19:50] ok so now, question. When I add mptscsih to the mkinitrd, it doesn't copy over the aic7xxx module. Does this cmd look right to you: [19:50] noobish: exactly. any module needed it would be loaded by udev when / was mounted from the hda [19:50] sorry about the flood - not thinking. [19:50] mkinit -c -k 2.6.27.7 -m aic7xxx:mbcache:jbd:ext3:mptscsih -f ext3 -r /dev/sda3 [19:51] so if it's seen in the dmesg, how do i use it? [19:51] blkdg: pastebin the dmesg output [19:52] no matter I'll just include the module myself and add it to the load-kernel-modules script [19:52] oh, i thought it pasted here right before i wask kicked for the flood [19:52] blkdg: it did but a part of it. pastebin the whole dmesg [19:53] the |grep cam part is not sure it will contain all the relevant lines [19:53] ok [19:53] a message might not contain the cam word [19:54] this part looks like it worked though [19:54] nod (n=nod@unaffiliated/nod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:55] http://pastebin.com/d273108d4 [19:56] Shathan (i=DeAd@216.36.147.103) joined ##slackware. [19:56] hi [19:56] usus12jari (n=dylan@125.163.58.141) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:57] blkdg: the uvc website mentions the webcam as part of acer notebooks and it says it works fine [19:57] i'll check slackbuilds for uvc [19:57] hi can i get help i messed up my slackware install bad with slackpkg i had to reboot my router and it stopped dling pkgs [19:58] ls: error while loading shared libraries: libcap.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [19:58] that is the error i get now which pkg would i reinstall to get my ls commands back? [19:58] libcap [19:58] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:58] no uvc at slackbuilds [19:58] it is in the l/ series [19:59] do i have to use the slackware disk to install that again [19:59] or can i get it on slackpkg [19:59] Arno[Slack] (i=100@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [20:00] slackpkg should get it fine [20:00] otherwise you can connect to a ftp/http mirror and download it yourself manually [20:01] i guess a 'full' install isn't as full as i thought. [20:01] so i use slackpkg install libcap right? [20:01] blkdg: why do you say that ? [20:01] Shathan: yes [20:01] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [20:01] doesn't seem to work i get errors [20:01] if it doesn't work, then this is the package ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-12.2/slackware/l/libcap-2.14-i486-1.tgz [20:02] wait, i'm confued [20:02] i assume you run 12.2 right ? [20:02] is uvc a kernal moduel? [20:02] wes 12.2 [20:02] shut- (n=eric@hlfxns01bbh-142068165051.pppoe-dynamic.ns.aliant.net) joined ##slackware. [20:02] linux-uvc it is called [20:02] looking [20:02] hey do you need disk 3 if ur not using kde? [20:02] blkdg: it is the kernel implementation but from 2.6.26 and on it is included in the kernel source [20:02] so you don't need to get it [20:03] how do i use it? [20:03] that worked thank u khelben [20:03] Shathan: does ls work now ? [20:03] Action: slackytude2 yawns [20:03] wtf? [20:04] Nick change: slackytude2 -> slackytude [20:04] blkdg: uvcvideo is the name of the kernel module [20:04] blkdg: ls -al /dev/video* shows anything ? [20:04] noobfarm is still down I see [20:04] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009057069.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:04] i found /lib/modules/2.6.27.7-smp/kernel/drivers/media/video/uvc/ in the package browser when i search for file name. [20:04] But if you run Slackware 12.2 (which has uvcvideo) and it is not getting loaded, perhaps your cam needs a different driver [20:04] Pig_pen: "you're not as noobish as your nick says :D", thx. That's a real compliment coming from #slackware [20:04] Dominian, you still here? any updates? [20:05] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2009-03-27 15:13 /dev/video -> video0 [20:05] alienBOB: it got loaded. dmesg shows it fine and the cam is in the working devices list on the website [20:05] chrome_ (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/chrome/x-455334) joined ##slackware. [20:05] slackytude: nothing yet [20:05] blkdg: this video0 is the webcam device [20:05] slackytude: appears 72.51.47.53 is the culprit [20:05] it should work fine [20:05] \0/ [20:05] Dominian, damn those guys! [20:05] slackytude: looks like there was a botnet slamming undernet [20:05] Dominian, ouch [20:05] what application do i use? [20:06] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) joined ##slackware. [20:06] and this was one of the IPs that was trying to exploit.. it failed to exploit slackadelic properly [20:06] hey [20:06] when it went to run the bot in its own process it failed [20:06] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("#slackware-studio"). [20:06] Dominian, ossec ftw, I guess. [20:06] Tagami (n=Winter@75-121-132-30.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] chrome_ (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/chrome/x-455334) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]" [20:07] ok, if uvcvideo is a kernel module and i'm running 12.2, which application can i use to test the camera? [20:07] Dominian, you get a link for the undernet botnet thingy? [20:07] blkdg: kopete [20:07] slackytude: well it wasn't someone at undernet [20:07] motion [20:07] slackytude: someonme was tring to tack a botnet into undernet [20:08] unless you have luvcview or mplayer installed [20:08] slackytude: appears wordpress is the issue.. just not sure how [20:08] hmm, kopte gives e no choices for devices.i will look at luvcview [20:09] I think when I used slackware 10.0 my nick here was total_noob, now I've graduated to noobish [20:09] pretty soon I'll have to pick a non-noob name [20:10] Dominian, alrite [20:10] bleh [20:10] man, I spent some day reading linuxhaters and some links originating from there [20:10] brb [20:11] Cann0n (n=Cann0n@unaffiliated/cann0n) left irc: "Leaving" [20:11] s/day/time [20:11] slackytude: going to move th emain site for slackadelic to an unprived account [20:11] that way even if they DO push something into /tmp.. won't matter [20:11] Dominian, chroot? [20:12] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [20:12] Dominian, wait, you mean the site got full privileges till now? [20:14] blkdg: if you have mplayer installed you can also try mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0:fps=25 tv:// [20:14] alruna (n=hasse@c-a0dae455.020-22-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [20:16] one has to wonder why people use linux. or why it isnt simply falling to pieces [20:16] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] SDFSDGF (n=LINUX@200-96-5-156.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:17] i'm getting the slackbuilds script for mplayer thanks for your help Lord_Khelben and alienBOB [20:17] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [20:18] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:18] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:19] hwiesinger (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-131.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:20] slackytude: that was my fault.. not paying attention to perms [20:20] blkdg: Berlios's website http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/#documentation might provide some more information if you need [20:20] slackytude: not to mention I normally move the / apache site to my home folder [20:22] Dominian, oi! not good. on the other nothing much happend an ossec catched it soon enough. so, you wont have to give your internet license back just yet:P [20:24] hehe [20:24] I'm going to install some wordpress security plugins that detect these things [20:25] Lord_Khelben (n=null@79.103.242.156) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [20:26] j0z (n=LINUX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Connection timed out [20:26] j0z (n=LINUX@200-96-5-156.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:30] MLanden: i was confused earlier, i thought uvc was an app, not a module. everntually mplayer wil stop building and i'll see if the cam works [20:31] nater__ (n=nater@68-187-107-216.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:31] nater_ (n=nater@68-187-107-216.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:31] good luck,blkdg [20:33] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:35] slackadelic.com web server back up [20:36] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [20:36] or not.. [20:36] my local microbrewer turned their wifi back on [20:36] now i can drink good beer on irc again [20:37] SDFSDGF (n=LINUX@200-96-5-156.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:38] double sweeeet..nullboy..:D [20:38] shut- (n=eric@hlfxns01bbh-142068165051.pppoe-dynamic.ns.aliant.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:38] "Alcohol = The cause of and solution to all our problems." --Homer Simpson [20:38] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:39] lol [20:39] i been sipping pure grain alcohol mixed in cold 7UP [20:39] Pig_Pen, O_o [20:40] nullboy: Cali's a smokefree zone with pubs,right? [20:40] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [20:40] talk about a buzz with an edge :D [20:40] Pig_Pen, eh, just say no [20:41] i dont mix it too strong, about 2/3's shotglass to a cold 12 ounce can in a tall glass [20:41] that's a fraction, two thirds [20:42] Shine to the 7's....LOL [20:42] Id rather get a beer anyday [20:42] but then, Im German [20:42] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-108-108.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [20:43] Action: slackytude goes eat somesausages [20:43] i bet there are boot legger that live in the same part of the country, my first wife's brother used to buy booze from a boot legger, white lightning [20:43] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-168-185-125.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:43] i just get a bottle of everclear from the liquor store, at least i know what i am getting [20:44] better to be safe than sorry [20:44] ahh, support your locals [20:44] I am waiting for someone to try and drink e85 [20:44] can you say "lead poisoning"? [20:44] i heard of people going blind before from bad booze [20:44] ok, i tried mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0:fps=25 tv:// and i can see an image but it flickers heavely [20:45] copland, why? it taste like something you should avoid [20:45] blkdg: what version of mplayer? [20:45] as I am sure you get someone drunk enough they would try it [20:45] i had an IPA first and then a rye based pale ale [20:45] MLanden: yep [20:45] Pig_Pen, actually, my neighbour here makes his own too. doesnt sell, tho, just for friends [20:46] nullboy: OK [20:46] IrquiM: trust me I know someone who tried separating the ethanol from the gas to drink e85 [20:46] does anyone have a domain name they don't care about? lol [20:46] hmmm... no squid binaries anymore [20:46] oh well [20:46] 20081215 SVN mplayer from slackbuilds [20:46] i know a guy the makes wine like that, (personal use) i tried it before, tastes good going down but it is a little strong and will give you one hell of a hangover [20:47] dartmouth I have a few leftover domains [20:47] why Pig_Pen ? [20:47] copland, don't see the issue, however, e85 tastes like crap [20:47] i favor a pinch of everclear in 7up [20:47] Pig_Pen, thats still pretty good. hard to make wine, imho [20:47] IrquiM: what you tried e85 [20:47] copland, not that much, now [20:48] just crudly fermented i guess, something a neanderthal would do with berries & a hole in the gound :D [20:49] Pig_Pen, I wouldnt be to sure. if you try to make wine, you usually get vinegar instead [20:49] wine is not that hard if you got the stuff required, and rtfm [20:50] wine is fairly simple to compile, it just takes a while. [20:50] Trust me there are people stupid enough to think they can take the 15% of gas out of e85 and use it for moonshine these are truly sad people with no lives [20:50] IrquiM, hanging around here told me that noone RTFM's [20:51] slackytude, man ftw [20:51] copland, those are noobs [20:51] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-135-100.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:52] SpacePlod: if you're around, I tried ddrescue with -d and it came out right. Thanks. [20:52] Pig_Pen: (svn_20081215 [20:53] here's an intresting line from mplayer v4l2: 721 frames successfully processed, -719 frames dropped. [20:53] same as freebsd, anyway. there's no telling with these disks. [20:53] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:54] copland (i=d1f17679@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2848f67730f148ca) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [20:54] slackytude, thanks for noticing I was trying to tease you :) [20:54] Action: Camarade_Tux goes to bed now :) [20:54] Camarade_Tux, ^-^ [20:54] Camarade_Tux, good night [20:54] blkdg: that's expected in some cases [20:55] blkdg: it's dropping frames to keep everything synced [20:55] good night :) [20:55] i like drinking good booze of all kinds thats for sure, i know the principals of brewing/fermentation, & distilling but i never made any myself that would be considered drinkable [20:55] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-240.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [20:55] when did Lord_Khelben go [20:56] Pig_Pen, I can recommend Glenlivet XXV :) [20:56] nullboy: ok [20:57] i thought it was linked to me seeing the blinking images [20:57] http://www.theglenlivet.com/xxv/ [20:57] rolfo: glad you got it. not a whole lot of info in the ppt I sent you, but experiment and you'll learn. [20:57] DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [20:57] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:57] LOL [20:58] Pig_Pen, indeed [20:58] omg , hope alienBOB forgive me [20:58] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) joined ##slackware. [20:58] segmentation fault [20:58] alienBOB, u there ? [20:59] GlenLiven does not say where his location is, just that they have an underground spring [20:59] dartmouth, I have a domain I don't care about. [20:59] but the lol in your request tells me I shouldn't tell you abuot it [20:59] red hat revenue grew 25% over the last year [20:59] alienBOB: your router is fscked [20:59] in the us kentucky & tennessee are whiskey mfg states [21:00] Pig_Pen, Scottish sherry cask [21:00] ah, a scotch whisket [21:00] whiskey* [21:00] whisky* [21:00] i brought back a fifth of Alberta Springs 10yr rye [21:00] no e [21:00] correct [21:01] e is Irish or US [21:01] form canada [21:01] from* [21:01] all us heathen savages spell whiskey with an e :D [21:01] thanks, for your help tonight folks. [21:01] yeah, Canada and Scotland is no e [21:01] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [21:04] nullboy: cannot find any info regarding the Alberta spring that's not biased [21:04] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:04] umm, i was just here getting help with my webcam [21:04] and i thought i had to live with the flicker [21:04] IrquiM: haha [21:05] then i logged out and logged in to blackbox [21:05] and theres no flicker [21:05] IrquiM: let your tastebuds tell you then \o/ [21:05] is it kde? [21:05] nullboy, give me some [21:05] PELO (n=PELO@201-14-156-13.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:05] battery fail [21:05] ir is it that i have kde 3.5 effects running? or is it the overhead of kde? [21:05] mayday mayday [21:06] chb (n=chb@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [21:06] nullboy, blended or single malt? [21:07] kleanchap (n=chatzill@c-69-143-107-103.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [21:07] anyone? [21:07] blkdg: if you were to change your session type it would fix that [21:08] bbiab,folks [21:08] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-168-153.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [21:09] blkdg: it can be any number of issues [21:09] 23 mins let [21:09] left [21:09] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:10] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:11] communicator (n=abc@89.155.14.206) left irc: [21:11] dartmouth: what do you mean my session type? [21:11] ok [21:11] Shathan (i=DeAd@216.36.147.103) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:11] when you first book X [21:11] boot* [21:11] Shathan (n=deadzomb@216.36.147.103) joined ##slackware. [21:11] v4nelle (n=van@adsl48-13.lsf.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [21:11] you'll see the user login screen (kdm) [21:12] there's a little menu towards the bottom on the right hand side [21:12] oh, as in which x manager i sleclt in xwinconfig [21:12] check the option in that menu that says 'xfce' [21:12] and then your kde will run just fine, but it will look a little different [21:13] hi [21:13] my machine is stil in test mode, it boots and stays at runlevel 3 (right?) [21:13] ok. [21:13] yeah [21:13] just do 'startx' [21:13] then i start x [21:13] right [21:13] yup [21:13] ok [21:13] then that will launch kde [21:13] erm kdm [21:14] oh oh oh. i get it. [21:14] instead of running 'startx' do 'init 4' [21:14] and then you'll get where im going with that. [21:14] anyone know how to probe hardware connected to a pci-x slot? [21:14] Shathan: it should do that on its own unless you have hotplugging stuff going on [21:14] lspci [21:14] i will edit the start up file once i get my hard ware concerns taken care of. [21:15] thanks again [21:15] good night [21:15] yup [21:15] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [21:15] lol@chatzilla [21:15] k it lists in lspci however when i ifconfig -a the card is not there [21:16] which card ? [21:16] my pci-x intel network card [21:17] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "\m/ irssi \m/" [21:19] greetings Slackers:) [21:19] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@client-82-2-113-213.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) joined ##slackware. [21:20] hi test [21:20] think I got it narrowed down [21:20] hi Pig_Pen:) [21:20] I had xml rpc stuffed turned on for remote posting... [21:20] using scribfire plugin for firefox.. oops [21:20] Action: Dominian turns that off [21:21] if you are just updating your initrd.gz, do you need to call lilo again? [21:21] ##slackware: mode change '+b *!*@bl8-148-206.dsl.telepac.pt' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:21] DeeeeP kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: Come back in 3 days when the ban expires - don't try to fuck with channel regulars [21:21] If anyone cares, under the ISO 8859-1 charset, the unicode escape for £ is \u00A3. However, using System.out.print() just prints ú under a winxp terminal. I just tried it on a clean and default VMware machine. Now, the interesting thing is that if you right-click that terminal and goto Find.. and enter £ as the search term, it finds and highlights the ú. That is messed up, no? [21:22] whoa.. what did I miss [21:22] Argh, wrong channel. Sorry. [21:23] noobish: nope [21:23] hcfd: which channel was that for? [21:23] ##java [21:23] rgr thx [21:23] Trying to get £ to print, but of cos winxp is fubared. [21:23] s/cos/course [21:24] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:27] hamerikanetza (i=hammer@support.team.at.shellium.org) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:27] pirving (n=Talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:28] question, is there a free ftp server service that features unlimited FILE size? Not unlimited space, but file size, I've seen 500K and 1MB file size limits on the popular ftp servers free [21:29] ? [21:30] i guess I just need to buy a hdd [21:30] of a flash drive [21:30] pirving (n=Talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:31] PELO (n=PELO@201-14-156-13.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [21:31] that was a weird sequence of messages from pirving [21:32] Aren't they all? [21:33] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:33] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:33] thrice: are you sure? Because it just appeared to use the previous image when I rebooted [21:37] spmd (i=loli@pdpc/supporter/active/CAcert.Assurer.spymod) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:38] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:40] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:42] pirving (n=Talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:43] whats the bot when I logon to freenode asking me for a password, do I have to do this? [21:43] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:46] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:47] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: "by all" [21:48] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:49] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:49] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [21:50] packeteer (n=zed@150.101.122.57) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [21:51] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [21:52] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:52] m0o [21:52] hey rob! [21:52] IPADDR[0]="192.168.1.108" [21:53] NETMASK[0]="255.255.255.128" [21:53] GATEWAY[0]="192.168.1.1" [21:53] that should work right? [21:53] no [21:53] netmask is wrong [21:53] .129, maybe [21:54] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: "Smoke my bones" [21:54] or not, I need sleep [21:54] a .128 only has 25 addresses [21:54] I'm wrong [21:55] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h141n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [21:55] that's amuch bigger block [21:55] just make it a 24 bit [21:55] alienBOB (n=alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [21:55] Action: Stutteringmatt scouts for eviljames, got big news for him [21:56] alienBOB (n=alien@about/slackware/alienBOB) left irc: Client Quit [21:57] ph|ber: hey hey [21:57] whats going on? [21:58] Not too much, but it should be :/ Swamped with stuff that I *should* be doing. How about you? [21:58] um a .128 mask has 126 usable addresses [21:58] but i got it working [21:58] alienBOB (n=alien@h202078.upc-h.chello.nl) joined ##slackware. [21:58] risperidon (n=risperid@189.77.60.84) joined ##slackware. [21:58] right... 128 - 2, with 2 subnets [21:58] now to get a ghost server setup [21:58] just seting around the house. [21:58] tired. [21:58] I still need sleep, though [21:58] sick of the fucks at work. [21:58] this windows dweep and my manager. [21:59] you don't happen to be a postman, perchance? [21:59] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@bl8-148-206.dsl.telepac.pt' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [21:59] they are wanting to have our AIX boxes and our universe databases authenticate off of AD. [21:59] fucking sick. [22:00] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:00] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h141n4c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:00] but we are getting new CIO monday. [22:01] and the manager is gonna be OUTA THERE [22:01] ph|ber: haha :) [22:01] I know nada about AIX, but I've had linux asking AD for auth before [22:01] you dont tie ANYTHING to fucking AD.. [22:01] oh, I agree [22:01] we started working on using suns IDM.. its pretty sweet. its simple sign on. [22:02] but it's doable, and I've done it [22:02] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [22:02] fuck that.. i know our users.. their passes are like meme, cat12 [22:02] etc. [22:02] ph | ber: I know what you're talking about, man. I've had my share of asshole managers in my work life. [22:03] noobish (i=noobish@12.170.31.226) left irc: [22:03] too many [22:03] i hate how he "thinks" he knows it all [22:03] he dont know shit.. before he came to be the manager.. he was the tape BITCH at a bank [22:04] now he and the windows dweep is trying to push fucking vmware in [22:04] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:04] NOT GONNA HAPPEN [22:04] yeah [22:04] it makes no sense for us.. [22:04] we would need like a 5million dollar upgrade. [22:05] for it to be right. [22:05] but be careful, he is your boss and he can screw you over [22:05] pirving (n=Talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:05] hitest: na.. not blowing my own horn, but im too respected. [22:05] I know [22:05] hes the FNG [22:05] HeatHawk[AP2] (n=kevin@CPE0050bffee1db-CM00111ade4d78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [22:06] if we bought the 10gig network infrastructor, then we would need a new SAN [22:06] we have a IBM 4800 with like 20TB. [22:06] but its only 4gig throughput [22:07] is there any disk cloning software availble for slackware? [22:07] like clone server [22:07] rsync [22:07] :> [22:07] dd [22:07] Shathan: dd is your friend [22:07] dd works nice. [22:08] can it be used as a server [22:08] man dd [22:09] set your own repo up. [22:09] dd what you want then rsync it over [22:09] Shathan: partimage; or clonezilla (uses partimage and more) [22:09] clonezilla isn't avaible for slack [22:11] clonezilla works fine [22:11] dunno where you go 'its not available for slack" from. [22:11] there site has no tars [22:11] its just a cloning software for hard disks [22:11] Youcan setup clonezilla components on Slackware just fine [22:11] its an iso you burn to cd... [22:11] or what alienBOB said [22:12] And if you do not want that, you can use partimage [22:12] Also client-server [22:13] nm [22:13] wynd (n=pete@71.113.188.95) joined ##slackware. [22:13] they didn't put the link to the tar in the installation readme :( [22:14] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: "You can't fire me....." [22:14] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. 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[22:24] lol [22:24] the interwebz [22:24] its like myspace, just ignore it =p [22:24] rules? WHAT rules? [22:24] er- ignore /b/ at least lol [22:24] rules 1 and 2 [22:24] shh [22:25] What's a good app. t resize my / partition ? [22:25] i don't want to wipe it clean and restart, i just want to take nGB put Gentoo on it =p [22:26] gparted's liveCD [22:27] OH GOD now i have an excuse to learn how to burn a cd =( [22:27] i'd advise against gentoo [22:28] thrice': Let's hear it? =D [22:28] you don't know how to google partitioning, nor how to burn a cd [22:28] lol [22:29] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:29] Thrice': I use Gentoo at school. I've burned cds, that was a joke, also, i googled partitioning and found gparted but wanted some opinions. [22:29] Tagami (n=Winter@75-121-132-30.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [22:29] er- it was half of a joke [22:29] cuba (n=cub@84.19.44.65) joined ##slackware. [22:29] :> [22:29] the gparted livecd is quite handy [22:29] use gparted for the resize but backup anything critical, as you would with any possibly destructive process [22:29] so okay, slack 12.2 freshly installed... audio doesn't work though [22:30] Tagami: alsaconf [22:30] it's probably something obvious that i'm forgetting about [22:30] ...oh [22:30] ahem [22:30] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-200-90.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [22:30] it occurs to me i have two sound cards in this computer [22:31] <--stupid some times [22:31] ;> [22:31] if you don't need both, disable one [22:31] i do need both as it turns uot [22:31] out [22:31] but i'm thinking about ditching one of them anyway [22:32] I almost typed my root password into this window [22:32] HEH [22:32] anyone by the way has problems using hauppauge wintv cards and via chipsets? [22:33] Nick change: aceofspa1es19 -> aceofspades19 [22:33] i once knew a guy who typed a fortune 500 company root password into IRC [22:33] lol [22:33] i wasn't in the channel when it happened [22:33] but i heard about it :) [22:34] the management of environment variables in /etc/profile.d/ is something new ? [22:34] in slackware 12 ? [22:34] it's been that way for a few versions [22:35] hm [22:35] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-168-153.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:35] that seems to have not worked ._> [22:35] >_> [22:35] Likevinyl (n=lalala@200.125.76.26) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:35] back [22:36] how on earth do i choose which sound card to output to [22:36] maybe i'll just figure that out later XP [22:36] Tagami: that would have sucked to be him [22:36] yeah [22:37] had to pull the plug, change the password, and then write an email [22:37] that's grounds for termination [22:37] pretty much, yeah [22:38] he managed to avoid it, i believe, but there were threats made XP [22:38] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:40] j0z (n=LINUX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: "just for today" [22:41] wdyy (n=wdyy@211.138.36.86) joined ##slackware. [22:43] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [22:50] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [22:55] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[23:11] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:13] Tagami (n=Winter@75-121-132-30.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:15] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:21] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.104.74.209) joined ##slackware. [23:24] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-200-90.epm.net.co) left irc: "leaving" [23:25] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:25] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:26] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: "sleep." [23:27] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [23:28] replay (n=replay@69.26.207.147) joined ##slackware. [23:34] alienBOB, how is the progress with them builds going? [23:36] Tagami (n=Winter@75-121-132-30.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [23:37] willbert (n=willbert@cpc2-glen3-0-0-cust508.belf.cable.ntl.com) joined ##slackware. [23:38] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:41] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.14.116) joined ##slackware. [23:42] very slow john_dee [23:42] I think [23:42] android-wdyy (n=androidy@211.138.36.86) joined ##slackware. [23:43] android-wdyy (n=androidy@211.138.36.86) left irc: Client Quit [23:44] :) [23:44] I'm working on my server at work [23:44] working at a hosting provider [23:45] sound cool [23:46] currently when I have time during my work, me and my colleauge are making a list for a stripped out slack build to use as server [23:46] extending our OS choice [23:47] and also an unnatended installation [23:47] what type of server? apache? [23:47] Shathan (n=deadzomb@216.36.147.103) left irc: [23:48] no, customer can use it for everything they want [23:48] nice [23:49] big provider? [23:49] what's the name? if it''s not secret info of course ^ [23:50] basically I was thinking, a/ ap/ d/ k/ l/ n/ /tcl [23:50] www.leaseweb.com [23:51] me too was thinking of stripping slack a bit. it can become twice lighter if cleaned of all that same functionality apps [23:52] isn't your colleague uSlack? [23:52] nope [23:52] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:52] he posted on LQ about making a lightweight slack distrp [23:52] oh, ok [23:53] and there was a wordpress blog with the announcement, but silent after that [23:54] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-71-104.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] nite [23:55] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:55] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:56] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-108-175-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:56] yeah, though it's morning here =) [23:58] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-71-104.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:58] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.180.191) left irc: "leaving" [23:58] 5am here [23:59] midnight here [00:00] --- Sat Mar 28 2009