[00:02] andarius (n=andarius@67.191.164.127) left irc: "it is only if we look will we see the world in the available light" [00:02] Idiocracy yet again: http://tinyurl.com/qg74a5 This one makes me want to kill myself. [00:02] Well not really. [00:02] But almost. [00:02] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-24-32-2-231.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [00:02] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-24-32-2-231.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:03] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-24-32-2-231.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [00:03] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: Client Quit [00:05] umislack (i=1000@58.64.91.204) joined ##slackware. [00:05] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:06] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:06] http://www.guba.com/watch/2000929943 [00:06] GNOC baby [00:07] ramiroec (n=ramiroec@190.2.198.111) left irc: [00:07] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:08] sidmario (n=sidmario@189-18-235-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [00:08] Guest22843 (n=sidmario@189-18-235-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:08] Nick change: Guest22843 -> sidmario [00:09] sidmario (n=sidmario@189-18-235-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [00:10] sidmario (n=sidmario@189-18-235-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:10] http://whythefuckdoyouhaveakid.com/ The front page is just killing me today. [00:10] Action: agentc0re puts gun in mouth [00:10] sidmario (n=sidmario@189-18-235-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [00:11] Nick change: AbsTradE1ic -> AbsTradELic [00:11] lol [00:11] Action: Skaperen wants one of those shrink rays they use in grocery stores to make food products smaller and smaller [00:11] hello all. anyone else get "Could not parse file '/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org3-startcenter.desktop': No such file or directory" if they run update-desktop-database after using SBo's latest openoffice build? [00:11] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:12] i do [00:13] ok ty [00:16] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [00:17] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.118) left irc: "Saliendo" [00:17] Guest22843 (n=sidmario@189-18-235-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:17] U-Neeks (n=hell@201-34-193-182.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [00:18] Nick change: Guest22843 -> sidmario [00:18] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.152.138) left irc: "Auribus teneo lupum: I hold a wolf by the ears." [00:19] bah [00:19] hey jeev [00:19] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] sup firebird619 [00:20] jeev: nm, you? [00:21] i built the new xserver and stuff at the office but i had to leave [00:21] last i was at was usb wasn't working [00:22] gdub (n=graham@66.183.76.186) joined ##slackware. [00:22] jeev: heh, if it isn't one problem it's another. [00:22] nv4Phil (n=phil@gate.nv4p.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:23] i'll check it out tomorrow i guess [00:23] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1187380/I-bought-daughter-Botox-jabs-18th-birthday--says-mother-spent-45-000-plastic-surgery.html <---Mother bought botox for her 18 year old daughters b-day. The mother's face doesn't even look like it can move. :P [00:23] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@173.51.68.122) joined ##slackware. [00:23] eww [00:23] even the daughter is BUTT ugly [00:24] lol, not as bad as the mom though, imo. [00:24] mic_ (n=mic@201.170.213.213.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) joined ##slackware. [00:24] they're both equally fugly [00:25] what'd the mom get cheek implants or does she have that much botox + high cheek bones. :P [00:25] probly straight industrial-grade silicon :P [00:25] firebird619: OMFG! [00:25] haha [00:26] agentc0re: Isn't that freaky. [00:26] firebird619: I'd freely just run her face over to make her look better. [00:26] At least give her some boobs so i can look at something worth looking at. [00:26] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:26] sidmario (n=sidmario@189-18-235-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: [00:27] and now the mom has the daughter addicted to botox too, so she'll look just like the mom eventually. :P [00:27] if not worse. [00:27] no doubt [00:27] A_666_A (n=xxx@189-18-235-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:27] still haven't figured out this package selection process at the install...what would you guys suggest for me on a p3 laptop, with 10 gigs HD space, and i'm NOT using X [00:28] Nick change: A_666_A -> sidmario [00:28] *not a novice, just no clue what these packages include, etc [00:28] scribeskul: all of cd1 [00:28] cd1....so A, AP and N? [00:28] sidmario (n=xxx@189-18-235-215.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Client Quit [00:28] l too [00:28] "L" [00:29] antiwire: A, AP, L, N...what about K& T (and f of course) [00:29] scribeskul, at a minimal to a newcomer, no X.. a,ap,l,n (some things can use the 't ones' tho) [00:29] agentc0re: the mom's eyebrows even look fake. [00:29] scribeskul, but the box will boot/run with out the t's fwiw. but I dont know what you're doing on it. [00:30] scribeskul, the kernel sources aren't need to run [00:30] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-24-32-2-231.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [00:30] firebird619: No the question is, what looks real? [00:30] nothing [00:30] Old_Fogie: just need a basic system...i want to handpick the apps, tintin, mplayer, links-ng, nano...thats basically it...i use it for mush's and moos and internet and streaming shoutcast [00:30] scribeskul, well mplayer with or without X. [00:31] A_666_A (n=xxx@189.18.235.215) joined ##slackware. [00:31] Probably D if you want mplayer as it has to be compiled. [00:31] without X, i like the asccii art aalib stuff [00:31] Nick change: A_666_A -> sidmario [00:31] you'd probably need a special build of it, disableing X , which means you're going to want the devel section of the insaller to build it [00:31] OlD_Fogie thanks! so basically everything cept X, the games, kde etc, and emacs [00:31] several things are compiling with SBOpkg [00:32] agentc0re: seriously though, what kind of mother would buy that for there daughter. A parent should be instilling morals, values, confidence, etc. in their children, not botox injections. [00:32] s/there/their/ [00:32] firebird619: She looks manly so i bet her penis is real. [00:32] lol [00:32] firebird619: She's not a mother, thats why she bought that KID botox. [00:32] scribeskul, no X, kde, the T's, emacs. you might need source to build to mplayer tho, cuz it might look for cdrom.h and stuff like that [00:33] scribeskul, since you're going to have to dev on that box. [00:33] I noticed 'x/' is so huge nowadays that one may not know what to install or not and how to make a tagfile for it. [00:33] scribeskul, but dont be surprised, if you dont have the T's on there, you can build info files... so you may want the T's in there to do your builds, then yank em' out after you get all your binaries built [00:34] Old_fogie: thanks, you're the best! do the T's take up a good amount of space? If not, i suppose it wont hurt to have them [00:34] dchmelik, well there's alot of packages but hard drive size I find is almost same as it were before [00:34] scribeskul, well you got 10 gig, with no X, or KDE on there, or emacs...you're fine [00:34] agentc0re: Did you read the article? The mom is 49 and plans a nose job for the daughter for the 21st b-day. [00:35] and the daughter is a model. [00:35] dchmelik, but if you're trying to really minimize pax installed yea...it can be a pitb. [00:35] :) [00:35] antiwire: pidgin is updated to 2.5.6 now. :) [00:35] i'm running 2.5.6 [00:35] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: "leaving" [00:35] oh you mean in Slackware? [00:36] antiwire: yeah. :) [00:36] bah humbug [00:36] nice [00:36] user8937 (n=user0432@ppp-69-223-83-236.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:36] i'm rsyncing now [00:36] just got the e-mail about it. [00:36] I always try to minimize pkgs... so were the old 'x' packages broken down into hundreds of pkgs? [00:37] antiwire: I'm sure it won't fix the encryption issue though, it'd be nice if it did though. :D [00:37] i cant wait to get to the office tomorrow to try x :) [00:37] yeah, it doesn't [00:38] I haven't seen any more about it, but the little I have, it seems like it's maybe a known issue, just not fixed. [00:39] brb [00:39] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [00:40] arenics (n=arenics@unaffiliated/arenics) left irc: "leaving" [00:40] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [00:40] lostnhell (n=lostnhel@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:40] there, on 2.5.6 now. :) [00:41] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:41] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-24-32-2-231.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [00:43] Old_Fogie: think I should include Kernbel sources just in case i ned to recompile for any reasons? [00:43] Old_Fogie: or is it just as downloadable, i'd figure [00:44] scribeskul, yea you got room you could do a full insall and still have room left over [00:44] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-080-010.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [00:44] Old_Fogie: cool...all i need to do is decide on emacs...don't think i need that though [00:44] i've never used it in the past [00:44] I never put it in [00:44] yeah [00:44] cool thanks for the help! [00:45] yw [00:45] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [00:46] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [00:48] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:49] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:49] gdub (n=graham@66.183.76.186) left irc: "bye" [00:55] antiwire: just a thought, but in the slackware pidgin slackbuild it has this: --enable-nss=no \ . pidgin-encryption needs that enabled to work, correct? [00:58] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.83) left irc: "Leaving." [00:58] pidgin encryption works fine [00:58] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.83) joined ##slackware. [00:58] the problem is the key length [00:58] it works fine for different protocols [00:58] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.83) left irc: Client Quit [00:59] paissad_ (n=paissad@12.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:01] scribeskul: depending on who you talk to, emacs _is_ the computer :) [01:01] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [01:01] firebird619, it's been a while, but iirc of top of my head, nss is off in that script since there's a separate encryption app that's built in the same package, and I ?think? pidgin itself uses gnutls. you'd have to ldd the official binary, which I dont have/use at hand here. [01:02] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:02] antiwire: ok, as I said, just a thought. :) [01:02] Old_Fogie: Ah, ok. thanks. [01:02] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:03] anyone figured out how to build kaffeine0.8.8? [01:04] Old_Fogie: I've got pidgin installed as well as otr - what should I be looking for? [01:05] libgnt? libnls ? [01:05] alisonken1noc, I think he was just asking why nss is off, I dont think you need to look for anything, but thanks [01:05] Old_Fogie: ldd of pidgin: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/14179 [01:07] firebird619, are you trying to build latest pidgin? [01:07] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [01:08] nope, I just upgraded to 2.5.6 though, I just got the e-mail from slackware a few minutes ago. [01:08] computer at the office didn't come back froma kernel upgrade [01:08] not surprised [01:08] firebird619, right, is it working? [01:09] yeah. :) [01:09] bbl [01:09] it works fine. he was talking about a bug we tested with pidgin encryption. [01:09] firebird619, but you built yours tho I see "libgstreamer-0.10.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0 (0xb7e5d000)" unless you're on current [01:09] firebird619: might I as about the email? [01:09] it's known about so there is not sky is falling problem [01:10] antiwire, ah ok [01:10] Old_Fogie: I'm on 12.2 [01:10] yea I built mine off of xulrunner's nss, plays nicer with the gnome onboard here. it's a pitb, cuz I have to remove seamonkey to build pidgin then put the monkey back in :) [01:11] welp this new kaffeine seems to be a big flop. [01:12] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [01:12] i skipped emacs, installing now...i use nano for everything so i don't know why i'd ever need emacs [01:12] "touch kaffeine-0.8.8-is-evil.txt" <--in my build tree :) [01:13] scribeskul, I like my eye's working...so I leave emacs out, else the eye's bleed [01:13] hehe yeah [01:13] gets all over the kboard [01:13] mmhmm [01:14] good evening everyone [01:15] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.15.252) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:15] slackmagic, hello [01:15] Hey slackmagic, how are you? [01:16] oh, doing allright, hey there again Old_Fogie and firebird619 :) [01:19] Nick change: nik -> Dr_Sunglasses [01:19] scribeskul (n=Samuel@24.152.247.224.res-cmts.sha.ptd.net) left irc: "Leaving." [01:21] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [01:22] |ast| (n=lilo78@190.16.3.141) joined ##slackware. [01:22] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [01:23] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:23] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [01:24] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Client Quit [01:26] Old_Fogie: you could have told me sooner ;) [01:26] BP{k}, I'm sorry what? [01:26] Old_Fogie: new kaffeine version. ;) [01:26] BP{k}, it FTBFS for you too no? [01:27] BP{k}, I thought maybe it might need newer headers ..but that doesn't work either. [01:28] BP{k}, and I have the latest xine onboard too. [01:28] BP{k}, it's really not a big deal for me tho, I've never seen kaffeine work a tv tuner yet to be honest. [01:28] Old_Fogie: not sure yet. i only just noticed it as you mentioned it. [01:29] benjsh__ (n=me@fnord0.lergravsvej.dk) left irc: [01:29] I'll probably build it later today as I am running short on time right now. [01:29] BP{k}, gl hf :) [01:30] Old_Fogie: let's try and keep it in english shall we ;) [01:30] I love this "this is final release for kde 3 series...this is a bug fix release withe the following 20 lines of additions changes in api/abi" :) [01:31] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [01:32] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:32] Old_Fogie: it's a good thing that Pat likes 4.x then :) [01:32] alisonken1noc, :) [01:33] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "." [01:33] just amazes me how these dev's slip in major changes into 'bugfix' release. [01:33] not as bad as redmond - but yeah, sometimes it happens [01:33] i just rebuilt pidgin 2.5.6 using svn r404 of pidgin encryption [01:33] it's listed in the plugins as 3.1 now [01:34] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-182-72.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) joined ##slackware. [01:34] Hi VampirePenguin [01:34] nice nic [01:34] hey firebird619 hows going [01:35] a blood sucking fish eater, man you must got some bad breath [01:35] VampirePenguin: going excellent, thank you. :) [01:35] cool thats good to hear [01:35] VampirePenguin: how are you? [01:36] im trying to figure out a cd/dvd ripper for fair use archives of my stuff... acidrip needs gtk which kde doesnt use and k3b wants transcode is that library by different name [01:37] im sleepy [01:37] but its uncomfortable to sleep [01:37] VampirePenguin, there's scrippages for transcode at SBo. [01:37] ok let me look there [01:37] i toght i did [01:37] 4.2.3 is jammin along [01:38] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/multimedia/transcode/ [01:39] Old_Fogie: ZOMGFTBFS [01:39] BP{k}, I tried to warn you :) [01:39] BP{k}, engrish please :) [01:39] Old_Fogie: kaffeine? [01:39] alisonken1noc, yea it's evil [01:39] thought so [01:39] alisonken1noc, the 0.8.8 one [01:40] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: "Saliendo" [01:40] don't recall every using/trying kaffeine, just noticed you two talking about it just after I logged in [01:40] dvb...seems it's failing to see / use the frontend.h in /usr/include.... iirc from my tarrot reading with the Oracle. [01:40] and don't forget reading the entrails [01:41] well duh Old_Fogie ... i must have missed it earler [01:41] I use totem most of the time, but the kaffeine is pretty good for ogg video I find. I never got tv to work with it tho. [01:41] ty vm [01:41] does links support resuming downloads? [01:41] VampirePenguin, yw [01:41] http://www.zdnetasia.com/techguide/security/0,39044901,62054348,00.htm interesing note on mydoom using sco ddos as a smokescreen for backdoor trigger [01:43] morning all [01:44] evening frullet [01:45] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [01:45] Action: Old_Fogie switches o'doulles n/a beer into BP{k}'s glass while he's going thru buildlogs of kaffeine. [01:46] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:46] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [01:48] how big is the whole slackware64-current tree? [01:48] roughly [01:48] " " <--roughly :) [01:49] heret|c (n=heretic@c-71-199-141-98.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [01:49] spook, but an rsync of 12.2 with a dvd iso in it, is about 10 gig for me with sources rsyncd too [01:49] but that's not 64, which is probably going to be smaller with the xz format [01:49] Old_Fogie: yeah i know how big 12.2 is, i was asking about 64 current for exactly those reasons [01:50] its a diskspace thing :P [01:50] roughly 3.6GB [01:51] Hi frullet, how are you? [01:51] firebird619: doing well, and you [01:51] frullet: doing excellent, thank you. [01:52] pprkut: thanks :) [01:52] funny enough, rsync of slackware is almost the same size as slackware64 Oo [01:52] spook: when I d/l this morning, it came to about 3.2G of a dvd [01:52] dont worry kde dev's will be eating up space soon :) [01:53] ok - maybe 3.6G :) [01:53] pprkut: not surprising, since pretty much the same sources are used for both [01:53] bullshit, of course it's about the same.......bah (still sleeping) [01:54] slackware.no put this out in distrowatch weekly fwiw ftp://ftp.slackware.no/linux/slackware/slackware-current-iso/slackware64-current-20_May_2009-DVD.iso i grabbed it haven't installed it yet [01:54] alisonken1noc: that was not with regards to your message [01:54] :) [01:54] I figured since it was almost the same time I sent [01:55] Action: pprkut should just go back to bed :/ [01:56] Hi pprkut, how are you? [01:56] hi firebird619 [01:56] tdjacobs (n=tiagoj@189.58.249.100) left irc: [01:56] well, sleeping :P [01:56] :) [01:59] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@173.51.68.122) left irc: "End Of Line" [01:59] Action: Old_Fogie puts two lit flashlights in pprkut's face on pillow, and screams "Lookout Truck!" [02:00] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/zimba/x-2075468) joined ##slackware. [02:01] night all be well! [02:01] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [02:02] pprkut you need to sleep sometime it's 7 a clock for you now [02:04] nille_: nah, it's 8 and I need to be at work within the next hour, so.... [02:04] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [02:04] Old_Fogie: hahaha [02:05] pprkut, :) [02:05] Old_Fogie: would be a bit strange as I'm living on a ship ;) [02:05] ohh i forgot we are in the same time zone [02:06] lostnhell (n=Unknown@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:06] pprkut, for sure. why are you on a ship (if you dont mind my asking?) [02:06] russian spy [02:06] it's an submarine [02:06] :p [02:07] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) joined ##slackware. [02:07] Old_Fogie: I'm in the last few days of my internship in the Netherlands for University and the ship is one of the student housing offerings they have here [02:07] nille_: lool [02:07] pprkut, ah I see. [02:07] nice [02:08] well in the Netherlands i think it's safest to live on a ship with all global warming [02:08] hahaha [02:09] heret|c (n=heretic@c-71-199-141-98.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:09] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) left ##slackware ("()"). [02:09] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) joined ##slackware. [02:09] ok, gotta go [02:09] I just read an article that says we're actually cooling now. [02:09] c ya [02:09] pprkut, cya have a good one. [02:09] Action: pprkut -> off to work [02:09] Old_Fogie: thx :) [02:11] I wonder how true it is/isn't. You can't beleive anything these days on this matter, so many vested interests in it both sides [02:11] slKIvs (n=ivan@190.149.96.5) left irc: "Saliendo" [02:12] can people still call it slackware if they distrobute unofficial dvds? [02:12] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "Leaving" [02:13] if it's purely umodified e.g. identical to what's on ftp.slackware.com I believe you can. [02:13] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [02:13] if you add / change one thing, even the tiniest then no is my take on it. [02:15] cteg (i=d907d461@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-923621d0899274d7) joined ##slackware. [02:15] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:15] but it's better to buy to real one so you sponsor slackware [02:15] the [02:15] its more the images, not the physical disks [02:16] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: Client Quit [02:16] txz looks weird. [02:16] and its annoying to type.. [02:17] type? don't you use tab :p [02:17] no, i manually type out everything, its just how i roll [02:18] lol [02:20] scribeskul (n=Samuel@24.152.247.224.res-cmts.sha.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [02:20] hidey ho neighbors! [02:20] well, got slack installed, setting up wireless now...its a bit different from archlinux...i noticed a lot more packages that it installed [02:21] scribeskul: Welcome back to Slackware. Enjoy your stay. :) [02:21] cause if you dont........ [02:21] Action: spook shakes fist [02:22] hahaha [02:22] lol [02:22] no i'm liking it [02:22] don't get me wrong [02:22] hahaha [02:22] scribeskul: don't ever come in here complaining, you know what spook'll do. :) [02:22] just a bit overwhelming thinking of manually updating kernels, etc [02:23] but i imagine i'll get the hang of it all [02:23] you dont really update kernels. [02:23] at least, outside of current. [02:23] well, that and package installations...kind of exciting actually [02:24] if its working, theres no reason to change it, outside of security updates. [02:24] true true [02:24] i'll have to disable the sshd thing i think...forgot to uncheck that in the install [02:25] chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.sshd [02:25] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [02:25] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-080-010.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:25] isn't chmod for permissions? [02:26] yes. [02:26] Action: antiwire cries [02:26] then, i'm afraid i'm confused haha [02:26] that stops sshd from starting at boot. [02:26] Action: firebird619 hands antiwire a tissue to wipe the tears. :) [02:26] oh alright [02:26] haha [02:26] nm i get it now [02:27] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: "leaving" [02:29] lostnhell (n=Unknown@pool-96-225-167-254.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [02:30] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89C1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:30] y0 slackytude [02:30] morning firebird619 and greetings channel [02:31] firebird619, how ya doing on this fine morning [02:31] hmmm...no network interfaces [02:31] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [02:31] slackytude: doing excellent, thanks. you? [02:31] all fine here [02:31] for now -_- [02:32] slackytude: I just seen on Planet Opera, that the Opera 10 beta, (upcoming) is going to have a new/refined skin. [02:32] finally! [02:33] yea I dont like the stock theme at all [02:33] in 9 series [02:33] hicksdesign is the one working on it. [02:33] i wish we could go back to the days when firefox wasnt bloated. [02:33] spook, ++ [02:33] i use seamonkey nowadays [02:33] http://hicksdesign.co.uk/ [02:34] spook, tho the 3.5 of FF3 is much better, I built it here to play around with it. [02:34] spook, it's still no opera tho. [02:34] FF just went the wrong way as far as bloat is concerned. [02:34] yeah [02:35] firebird619, the google/phishing/sqlite really bogged it down hard [02:35] easy to do [02:35] in the 3.0 series I mean [02:35] Old_Fogie: yeah, it really did. [02:35] anyone know the command to check if the correct modules are loaded...can't seem to find any network evices [02:35] scribeskul: lsmod [02:35] ifconfig -a [02:35] opera is just still lightweight and fast, yet feature packed [02:35] ifconfig doesn't report anything other than the loopback [02:35] did you -a [02:35] let me see here... [02:36] yeah [02:36] -a [02:36] lsmod ? [02:36] I think Opera 10 will blow FF 3.0 out of the water. imo. Opera 10 is blazing fast. [02:36] firebird619, which in their defence, there is a bug (now fixed in 2.6.29 of kernel) w.r.t sqlite...*and* gtk has major regressions as each Xorg comes out..Firefox will always be doomed til' them items get squahsed or they go with a new toolkit (thoughts from a noob here) [02:36] aye [02:36] Old_Fogie, you aint no noob [02:36] scribeskul: dont you have an ethernet card? [02:36] spook: i have two pcmcia adapters, one for wired, one for wireless [02:37] the wireless is a common aironet driver [02:37] it's a shame, firefox on a p3/866 with 256 ram is as fast as firefox on a 2500 amd/in linux [02:37] oh god. [02:37] for a while, I had used a skin in opera that was designed after the wii. :P [02:37] it's called kawii. :P [02:38] firebird619, it kills me, cuz firefox is what opened my mind to opensource too. [02:38] which is japanese for cute [02:39] spook: oh god? hehe [02:39] scribeskul: spent $100 and get a laptop that doesnt have pcmcia, and has network, wired and wireless, built-in [02:40] spook: why would i want to do that, that defeats the whole point of this haha [02:40] Old_Fogie: yeah, I know what you mean. When I was on Windows, before switching to using linux all the time, I used FF and TBird, but that was back in the days when they worked great and fast, now, FF especially is just heading the wrong direction. TBird hasn't released 3.0 yet, and I'm not sure what TBird is like anymore, haven't used it in ages. I wished it'd support other mail formats, etc. I prefer MH and Maildir over mbox. [02:40] scribeskul: ... [02:41] opera kawii skin: http://my.opera.com/community/customize/skins/info/?id=8748&rtype=skin [02:41] spook: i would assume slackware has support for common pcmcia devices [02:41] Old_Fogie: you ever been here to customize opera's skin: http://my.opera.com/community/customize/skins/?show=pop [02:42] TB is still fine [02:42] nice with lightning [02:42] firebird619, nope never did [02:42] gives outlook a run for its money, if you need multiple calendars [02:43] I did try the latest trunk a few months ago, but didn't really use it enough to have an opinion. TB that is. [02:43] Man-erg (n=meck@93-40-103-133.ip38.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [02:43] spicebird is nice, basicaly tbird with some other stuff. [02:43] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:43] spicebird.com [02:43] Old_Fogie: There's some really nice skins there. [02:44] if you don't like the default. [02:44] Action: slackytude checks out spicebird [02:44] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-59-81.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [02:44] WebKit ftw! [02:44] c00 is a favorite of mine, nice skin, somewhat mac like if you look at it. [02:45] webkit is quite good [02:45] Old_Fogie: there's even some vista-ish themes there if your into that sort of thing. :P [02:45] s/themes/skins/ [02:45] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.118) joined ##slackware. [02:46] well, other then konqueror, I know of no browser for linux that uses it. is there one? epiphany was supposed to use it, it did for a while,,but it didnt run so great, but that was probably epiphany dev's not having it ready for prime time. [02:46] webkit ^ [02:46] re: [02:46] konq does not use webkit.....yet [02:46] is there a browser on linux that uses it yet? [02:46] arora [02:46] well, think maybe i'll have to go back to arch for this laptop haha [02:46] hmm, never heard of it...off to google [02:47] Old_Fogie: midori does. [02:47] on SBo, as is arora. [02:47] pprkut: I tried arora today, very nice. [02:47] I have it too, but being unable to login to LQ makes it kind of a no-go currently :/ [02:48] it won't log into LQ? [02:48] it' [02:48] slackytude: Opera Turbo M.1 is a nice skin. [02:48] bah [02:48] lol [02:48] pprkut: still sleepy? typing affected? :P [02:49] firebird619: so true...... [02:49] scribeskul: if you can install slack, and in under an hour state "i'll have to go back to arch for this laptop haha", slackware wasn't meant for you. [02:49] bbiab [02:49] y0 chopp [02:49] hey [02:49] doesnt opera webkit? [02:49] Dr_Sunglasses (n=nik@accweb.evergreen.edu) left irc: "leaving" [02:49] spook: no, opera is presto [02:50] oh [02:50] hey, presto [02:50] har har har [02:50] pprkut: tried opera 10 snapshots? presto 2.2 (or is it 2.1) anyway, it's FAST. [02:51] chopp: maybe not, of course it seems rather strange that there would be such problems right off the bat when detecting a common pcmcia card [02:51] what's nice about opera is, they still support win98 thru current of windows too. firefox is now dropping win2k I believe in next rev. it's interesting that opera can readch that far back, and still run so fast [02:51] firebird619: I'm more concerned about standards as I'm a web developer [02:51] chopp: unless i'm missing something [02:51] scribeskul, is /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia active? [02:52] Old_Fogie: that's because it uses Qt :P [02:52] slava_dp: it appears so...that's what i'm checking now...i must be missing something here [02:52] mic_ (n=mic@201.170.213.213.dsl.dyn.telnor.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:53] scribeskul: http://slackbook.org/ [02:53] scribeskul, run rc.pcmcia, it will set up the required modules. [02:54] scribeskul, is your pcmcia 16bit by any chance? [02:54] might need to +x it [02:54] it may be 16 bit, its an old laptop [02:54] yenta driver is listed under lsmod [02:54] pcmcia is there, but with a 0 next to it [02:55] scribeskul, Slackware 11 was/is the last version of slackware to work with 16bit cards. [02:55] I've heard it's a bug...but I've yet to find a fix [02:55] believe me, I've tried too [02:55] Old_Fogie: didnt we go through this with someone else a few days ago [02:56] or is this the same person [02:56] nah first timer here today [02:56] spook, probably did, alot of people still got 16bit hardware [02:56] http://www.despair.com/daretoslack.html [02:57] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-71-202-96-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:57] drcode (i=c7cbb864@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9e2c47e1faa8ee1a) joined ##slackware. [02:57] hi all [02:57] I can see my network IP in rc.inet1.conf , but still it take 127.0.0.1? [02:57] spook, but I dont know what else to tell a person then , use 11.0 if 16bit hardware, tis' a shame. [02:58] slava_dp: nice :) [02:58] 11.0 is not that bad still :) [02:58] slava_dp, oh for sure. just some of the low level cve's are piling up, so I been fixing em' little by little. 2.4 kernel runs awesome tho on them old laptops. [02:59] heh [03:00] drcode, you will always have 127.0.0.1 on loopback [03:00] on eth0 [03:00] but I want to setup my nic IP [03:00] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:01] erm. [03:01] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:02] yeah, haha, i'm lost. i don't even have a wireless.opts file anywhere (assuming one should have been auto-created like network.opts, could be wrong though) [03:02] drcode, netconfig [03:02] I ddi [03:02] did [03:02] and I can see the IP in rc.inet1.conf [03:03] but still afer I reboot slackware , I can't see the IP [03:03] scribeskul, I never heard of them files. what are you looking for. [03:03] in slackbook.org they are mentioned when setting up pcmcia cards [03:03] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:03] i think they direct which drivers will be used [03:04] drcode, check /var/log/messages probably [03:04] /etc/pcmcia/network.opts [03:04] drcode, you can see eth0? [03:04] scribeskul, checkout the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf files. (I hope my spelling right there) [03:04] ok... [03:05] Old_Fogie, your spelling did not fail you this time ;) [03:05] \0/ [03:06] don't know [03:06] very strange [03:06] drcode, ifconfig -a [03:06] scribeskul, here is a wiki with wireless stuff at the bottom, the author is the gent who wrote the slackware network scripts so this is kind of like "all you ever wanted to know and a bag of chips" on wireless http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:slackware [03:07] eth0 is loopback [03:07] 127.0.0.1 [03:08] drcode, huh? is there a 'lo' interface then? [03:08] you opera users...how do i change the gui font? that sucks [03:08] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:08] no [03:08] eth0 = 127.0.01 [03:08] I don't see lo [03:08] drcode, pastebin the output from ifconfig -a please [03:08] sorry [03:09] yes [03:09] I can see also lo [03:09] cteg, about preferences maybe? [03:09] about:preferences [03:09] still inet1.conf , didn't change the IP [03:09] i only found fonts for the websites, not for the opera gui itself [03:09] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:09] lets look again [03:10] cteg, type about:preferences into the browser address bar and see if opera does something [03:10] lymeca (n=lymeca@dsl-74-220-76-19.dhcp.cruzio.com) joined ##slackware. [03:10] drcode, do netconfig again. [03:10] ok [03:12] i only see a smiley in the f* webchat client. is it a colon? [03:13] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [03:13] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-135-100.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: "leaving" [03:14] you know, I really like smb4k [03:15] drcode, then reboot and do `dmesg > output` and pastebin the contents of "output". [03:16] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [03:16] slackytude, me too, the only viable option to connect to random ms networks. it acts weird on our office network from time to time but me thinks the network is to blame. [03:17] Action: slava_dp is a bad windows admin [03:17] slava_dp, yeah, it sometimes drops dead for me, so I kill it and restart again. does happen once or twice in a week [03:17] great otherwise [03:17] and no issues with it being killed [03:18] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [03:18] slackytude, what bugs me is that it does not support russian characters in share names. it tries to mount the share, never succeeds and then can't do anything about it till i kill it. [03:19] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:19] slava_dp, eh, never noticed that [03:19] slackytude, you have any shares with native alphabet symbols? [03:20] I wonder how it would handle shares with germans symbold [03:20] I was just looking ^-^ [03:20] but I dont think so [03:20] Im gonna create one [03:21] slackytude, do :) [03:21] whats great in smb4k is that its was, way, more reliable then the MS network share browser thingy [03:21] Network places [03:22] slava_dp, yah, you are right, hangs for me on mounting gelächter [03:22] because for pretty much all operations, an election is triggered [03:22] slackytude, we have a bug then. [03:23] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-74-2.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [03:23] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-59-81.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [03:23] hey guys, its been a while [03:23] slava_dp, let me check some options [03:23] slava_dp, looks like I can change encoding [03:24] rootrtfm (n=Olivier@put92-2-82-224-221-46.fbx.proxad.net) left ##slackware. [03:24] Old_Fogie: it would appear the hardware wasn't detected by UDEV...hence the absence of anything other than the loopback in ifconfig...not sure if the correct drivers are present in slackware...I know the one card requires airo_cs or something similar (thats the wireless) which seems to be a rather generic driver...the other I'm not so sure, but it might by a 3com generic... [03:24] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:24] Yudha_HT (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [03:25] anyone here been using ext4 for a while? [03:25] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-141-170.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:25] Heya,folks...How's everyone? [03:25] scribeskul, maybe search something like ubuntuforums for the driver name? [03:26] MLanden: Doing alright, and yourself? [03:26] MLanden, not so bad :) o/ [03:27] Doin' great,Cotowar thanks [03:27] Good to hear,slava_dp [03:27] slava_dp, works fine now ^-^ [03:27] y0 MLanden [03:27] slava: the wierd thing is though this is the first distro that didn't detect them both, as they are common drivers, i'm worrying maybe they are 16 bit or i am missing something more obvious [03:27] so i've picked up a new hobby lately. I chill out in #ubuntu-women and try to pick up chicks [03:27] y0,slackytude [03:27] slackytude, what did you change? [03:28] How's that workin' for you,Cotowar? [03:28] slava_dp, codepage from default to ISO8859-1 [03:28] slackytude, the 'client charset' option on the mount tab? [03:28] lol, its good as long as i pretend the people in there are actually women [03:28] slava_dp, in configure smb4k -> samba -> mount [03:29] slava_dp, yes [03:29] slackytude, ok, will try now. [03:30] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-135-100.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [03:31] antiwire (i=antiwire@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x44033C56) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:32] scribeskul (n=Samuel@24.152.247.224.res-cmts.sha.ptd.net) left ##slackware. [03:32] i get 'mount error 6 = no such device or address' when mounting a share now. [03:32] yes, that was what I got before [03:32] wich ISO do you use? [03:32] Hey MLanden, how's it going? [03:32] slackytude, cp1251 or koi8-u [03:33] Doin' great thanks,firebird619 and you? [03:33] iso8859-5 too, but that's dated a bit [03:33] uh, I couldnt even select that. only gave me ISO stuff like iso8859-1 [03:33] MLanden: doing excellent, thanks. :) [03:33] |ast|_ (n=lilo78@141-3-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) joined ##slackware. [03:33] drcode (i=c7cbb864@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9e2c47e1faa8ee1a) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [03:33] slava_dp, ah, didnt see it now [03:33] err [03:33] slackytude, is your locale unicode? [03:33] slava_dp, see it now, didnt see it at first [03:33] nah [03:34] firebird619: tried messing with pitivi,but after so much patching,I gave up [03:34] yht (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:34] mine is. [03:34] hrm [03:34] MLanden: heh, yeah, that would take some work to get going/working properly. [03:35] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: Success [03:35] slava_dp, well, works for me. but they might have trouble with utf [03:35] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:36] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [03:36] slackytude, that's what i'm thinking too. i should be using cp1251 for the remote shares but my locale is utf-8. guess that's the problem [03:36] gooph_ (n=gooph@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:37] gooph_ (n=gooph@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:38] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:39] thanks to fred and the compat32 packages, skype now works for me in slackware64. :) [03:39] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:40] all i can say is that the ms smb protocol is way too complicated for my understanding. [03:40] chopp: good to hear. :) [03:40] hail fred [03:40] slackytude: cool, TB has a built in archive feature for mail. :) [03:40] and a tabbed interface. [03:41] 3.0 beta 2 that is. [03:41] chopp: So, how's it going? [03:42] firebird619, oh, does it show you more than a month in calendars [03:42] firebird619: not so bad actually, how about yourself? [03:42] firebird619, eh, nvm wrong software [03:42] slackytude: lol, ok. :) [03:42] chopp: doing excellent, thanks. [03:42] slackytude: did you look at spicebird? [03:43] firebird619: do you have five for a pm? [03:43] firebird619, yeah [03:43] TB 3.x looks like it may shape up quite nicely. [03:43] firebird619, well at the screenshots [03:43] chopp: sure, I'll be up about another 20-25 minutes or so. [03:43] firebird619, looks like it wants to be all-in-one [03:43] and its beta [03:44] slackytude: yeah, and whether it will succeed or fail has yet to be determined. [03:44] I'll wait a bit. I usually dont like all-in-one wonders [03:44] Interesting prog,firebird619( meaning spicebird)...Checkin' out their website [03:44] |ast| (n=lilo78@190.16.3.141) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:44] slackytude: I like the archive feature TB is going to have, I love that claws-mail has a plugin that does that too, makes backing up nice. [03:45] MLanden: yeah, I've used it a bit in the past, quite nice, but it's still in the very early stages. [03:48] firebird619: seems like a good prog to bridge between pda's and cloud computing using netbooks [03:48] yeah [03:48] i_is_cat (n=i_is_cat@S010600179a22e379.ed.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:48] slackytude: oops, TB's archive just moves the messages you select to an archive folder. :P [03:48] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [03:49] great! [03:49] wow, what an impressive feature eh? [03:51] VampirePenguin (n=java@h96-61-182-72.mtjltn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) left irc: [03:51] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [03:54] slackytude: Opera is working on a feature to archiving/backing up e-mail. I've seen some places say it'll be in 10 and other's that it won't. Time will tell I guess. [03:54] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [03:58] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) joined ##slackware. [03:59] Nick change: _MakubeX -> Anonymizer2 [03:59] Nick change: Anonymizer2 -> ^MakubeX^ [04:03] firebird619, dont you have IMAp now? [04:03] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [04:03] with gmail yes, isp mail, no. :) [04:03] Mornin' all [04:04] Cotowar (n=mike@adsl-235-74-2.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [04:04] Hey firebird619 [04:04] morning compl3x [04:04] hey slackytude =] [04:04] Hey compl3x [04:05] gah - girlfriend made me watch lion king last night. [04:05] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [04:05] slackytude: I have a opera backup script now, but that takes forever to run. I think cp would be faster [04:06] hehe [04:07] umislack_ (i=1000@58.64.91.204) joined ##slackware. [04:07] slackytude: but it sure makes a nice tarballed backup of it. :) [04:08] umislack (i=1000@58.64.91.204) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:08] slackytude: but I'm really liking claws-mail, it has so many features, and so many ways to sort, filter, process mail, it's really nice. [04:09] Way more current updates just rolling out now [04:11] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "brb" [04:12] Dominian, you there? [04:12] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [04:13] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [04:13] Time to get going. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. Take care. [04:14] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [04:15] hey [04:15] gotta' love slackware - be crazy not to. [04:15] later compl3x, I gotta get going. [04:15] cya firebird619 [= [04:15] later slackytude. [04:15] see ya firebird619 [04:17] umislack_ (i=1000@58.64.91.204) left irc: "leaving" [04:17] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-231-220.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:18] mornen [04:19] morning Zordrak [04:19] Zordrak: fixing any air con units todays? [04:19] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:19] Mornin',Zordrak [04:19] nope.. remounting the laser on a new bracket [04:19] the laser? [04:20] internet connection is ovel a laser [04:20] y0 Zordrak [04:20] *over [04:20] slackytude: sup [04:21] Zordrak: internet is over laser o.0? [04:21] compl3x: yeah [04:22] Zordrak: Right, Im confused :p [04:22] whats to confuse.... y'know fibre [04:22] Zordrak: oh fibre [04:22] well imagine the light was not in glass... but just fired with high precision through the air [04:22] laser [04:23] Okay - :S [04:23] I understand the concept - but didn't know it existed :p [04:23] well... [04:23] it does :) [04:23] alright o.0 :p [04:23] look it up(!) [04:23] Zordrak: I tried, couldn't find anything [04:24] Zordrak: well kind of [04:24] Action: Old_Fogie raises hands, and quotation marks gestures the word "laser" [04:24] Old_Fogie: porquoi? [04:24] compl3x: google ethernet over laser or similar [04:24] Zordrak, movie referernce [04:25] forget the name a.t.m [04:25] shux [04:25] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@207.216.231.220) joined ##slackware. [04:25] Zordrak: Can't find anything - Still confused of the setup. [04:25] nille_: pong [04:26] man the freaks are calling in to coasttocoast tonight. anyone else listening to it, hahah. [04:26] Usually do Old_Fogie [04:27] MLanden, yea I know. Tonight's a special treat, hahah, the caller's..my gosh where do they find these people :) [04:28] Zordrak: is this the sort of setup? http://www.azteqsolutions.com/images/laser-diagram-01.jpg [04:28] MLanden, you ever wonder if George Noori turns his mic off, when interviewing some of his guests, or when the callers are talking and just laughs histerically? [04:28] http://tinyurl.com/laserpdf [04:28] alienBOB have you tried vlc lately? [04:28] Zordrak: we have that in the uk o.0 [04:28] Old_Fogie: probably does [04:29] Old_Fogie: Dont forget they also breed. [04:29] compl3x: yes [04:29] XGizzmo_, hahah yeah I know right :) [04:29] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE7E16.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:30] Zordrak: where do you connect to? [04:30] http://nille.pastebin.com/d1ccb3e70 i can't get it to compile against libxcb in slackware 12.2 [04:30] W2 Group [04:30] in Sheff [04:30] Old_Fogie: checkin' out his website right now...:D [04:30] off-topic: this is a link to the radio show's site I'm referring to http://www.coasttocoastam.com/ [04:30] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:30] Zordrak: Im still baffled, Can't under stand it - what if say something got in the way of it, how does it travel that far etc [04:31] 1. Nothing does... except a crane once [04:31] 2. it's not all that far and the integritf over a distance purely relies on the strength of the beam [04:31] lasers are what are used to bounce off the moon to calculate how far away it is [04:32] Zordrak: what on earth made you choose that? [04:32] Zordrak: surley a fix land line would be more appropriate? [04:32] Old_Fogie: By human nature,there's got to be times Noori has to cut his mike off and laugh hysterically [04:32] w kept having utilities break our copper when digging... and its about the same price as the same speed leased line [04:32] MLanden, oh man I know, I know. Tonight, I gotta tell, I had tears in my eyes. [04:32] and we still have a copper backup [04:33] and the latency is eye-watering [04:33] Zordrak: wow thats crazy - What sort of distance are the lasers over? [04:33] i get to my home adsl connection and back in like 20ms [04:33] >=100M [04:33] sorry [04:33] <=100M [04:33] Zordrak: crazy, I've never ever heard of it [04:34] now you have [04:34] Zordrak: Many people use it around there? [04:35] in Sheffield theres a few certainly [04:35] W2 are building a laser grid [04:35] by having the laser we agree to be a repeater node too.. and if we do repeat for someone else.. we get a slice of the revenue [04:35] Zordrak: wow, One thing I can't get my head around - what if someone just put there hand in the way - are they elevated high in the air? [04:36] yeah... theyre on top of the buildings [04:36] even above head height on the roof [04:36] Zordrak: nice, I actually had no idea we had something like that here. [04:36] The repeater node ideas pretty cool. [04:36] its basically fibre tech [04:36] nille_: building VLC from svn is nightmare. I am not going to look at it until I have a reason, because VLC requirements change by the day [04:36] just a slightly different trasmission modiu [04:36] *medium [04:37] It usually takes me a day to prepare an updated vlc.SlackBuild every time I bump the version [04:38] Zordrak: another thing that confuses me, does the laser disperse? -or is it just streight line? [04:38] it disperses as the distance increas-es.. like if you point a laser pointer at a wall far away thi circle is big [04:39] but for as long as the power remains good enough, fou can be anywhere in the circle to receive it... which gives a little alignment leeway [04:39] alienBOB yes but i was going to have a look if an bug is fixed if not i was going to patch it myself, but i can't get it to compile since it needs xcb-keysyms now, and it seems that libxcb in 12.2 doesn't support that so i don't know how to get past that. [04:39] Zordrak: how can you act as a repeater node if the lasers is one direction? [04:40] would have a TX laser on the other side of the building [04:40] Zordrak: assumed so, seems pretty cool [04:40] Zordrak: new technology? [04:40] not ALL that new really.. [04:40] just not widely adopted [04:41] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [04:41] Zordrak: dude thats crazy , well- learnt something knew today. [04:41] aye [04:41] our university uses here for some time now [04:41] you can see the laser during rain or fog [04:42] Heh, im in the south west of england - give it 10-20 years well be there haha [04:43] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:46] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE7D4C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:51] Dr_Sunglasses (n=Dr_Sungl@accweb.evergreen.edu) joined ##slackware. [04:51] idle (n=idle@d199-74-168-16.try.wideopenwest.com) joined ##slackware. [04:51] compl3x: near any of the surfing areas? [04:52] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "BitchX: strong enough for a man, pH-balanced for a woman" [04:52] MLanden: right on one [= [04:52] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [04:52] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:52] paissad_ (n=paissad@12.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [04:52] MLanden: like a two minute walk to any of the 3 beaches around me [04:54] saw a program a while back that was showing the surfing in Cornwall and Devon [04:54] MLanden: you in the uk? [04:54] eastern Virginia...other side of the Atlantic...:D [04:55] MLanden: haha [04:55] MLanden, hampton? [04:55] no...'round Suffolk [04:56] ah [04:56] I'm from that area :) [04:56] jescis: cool [04:57] Hampton, Suffolk, Newport News [04:57] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-59-81.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [04:57] Up on the Pen..cool [04:58] polatov (n=polatov@213.211.101.184) joined ##slackware. [04:58] that's where I grew up. From ages 3-28 [04:58] Action: jescis was born in richmond, VA at MCV :) [05:00] MLanden, I graduated at Hampton High :D [05:00] compl3x: http://www.onsurfari.com/ pretty good show [05:00] they still top football team? [05:01] MLanden: nice- im not so much of a surfer tho' [05:01] jescis: they still make the news from time to time [05:01] awesome! :) [05:02] compl3x: Music good as well [05:04] dchmelik (n=root@dynamic-66-243-248-134.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." [05:04] MLanden, you know the VT killing? I signed the paper a local college was making to send them. I wrote "To Virginians From a Virginian" :) [05:04] Was a real tragic moment [05:05] Totally :( [05:05] Action: jescis had to move to KY :( But still calls self a Virginian [05:06] jescis: Where in Kentucky? [05:06] Paducah, KY or Western KY [05:06] big change [05:07] definitely [05:07] definately* [05:07] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) joined ##slackware. [05:08] jescis: 1st was right [05:09] witf can no-one spell it? De - Finite - Ly [05:09] to have the property of being finite [05:09] Zordrak, I wasn't sure. I tried saying it aloud. [05:10] :\ [05:10] Which is usually the problem [05:10] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-117-136.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [05:11] MLanden, Any time I see news on Virginia I get "hell yeah" or oh noo! [05:11] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl6-203-48.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:11] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [05:11] jescis: I could understand [05:13] MLanden, I was at a tea party here and a guy dressed in colonial garb was from VA and I was like "Cool :O" [05:13] tricorner hat and all? [05:14] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.241.134.166) joined ##slackware. [05:14] No, but the clothes and hair do was spot on. [05:14] jescis: cool [05:14] or at least I don't remember a hat :\ [05:14] yeah [05:15] made me pine for Williamsburg ;) [05:16] hear ya [05:17] Dr_Sunglasses (n=Dr_Sungl@accweb.evergreen.edu) left ##slackware. [05:18] I'm one of the few here that knows about john smith and all. Besides what was portrade in tthe Disney film Pocahantas :\ [05:19] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [05:21] Good film about them I saw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_World [05:21] I ought to see that :\ [05:24] call 911 in Virginia and you get "Are they white or African-American?" call it here in KY and it's "Are they Black or White?", threw my dad off for a minute when we first got here. [05:25] Hmm Im running slackware current on my acer laptop, xorg is configured using vesa drivers, however kde4 won't startup - the initial graphics when its loading work, but then the screen scrambles and I have to reboot to get it to work, any info? [05:27] MLanden, and I tell people about it and that things changed for Virginia after Govener Wilder that they're like :o [05:27] compl3x: Are you able to boot into any other DE like flux without the screen scrambling? [05:28] MLanden: yeah im using fluxbox at the moment [05:28] jescis: Things have changed quite a bit [05:30] MLanden, oh and someone disputed me about hampton and having counties and such. I showed them the page on wikipedia. Then they conceded :) [05:32] If you grew up somewhere you know more about it then someone who has never been ;) [05:32] could imagine,jescis...just how Virginia has it set up on administrative division...hard to explain to someone outside the state [05:32] exactly :) [05:33] compl3x: Does it lock up right at boot up or after a while? [05:33] MLanden: just as kde desktop apears - [05:34] after the KDE splashscreen? [05:35] MLanden: correct [05:35] compl3x, maybe it's kde and not really X ;) [05:35] Hmm [05:35] I mean since it works in a different DE... [05:37] compl3x i had the same thing on an laptop with an nvidia quadro card [05:37] my screen went black [05:38] compl3x: check .ICEauthority file in your home folder and see what has ownership? [05:38] MLanden: My user account does. [05:40] compl3x: What 'bout .Xauthority? [05:40] MLanden: same again [05:41] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.118) left irc: "Saliendo" [05:44] compl3x, take a look at .kde/share/config/kwinrc [05:44] compl3x, disable the effects [05:44] Cheers idle ill give it a shot =[ [05:44] [=* [05:45] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-35-37.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [05:45] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-59-81.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:46] o/ [05:47] hey frullet [05:47] whats up [05:48] Heya, frullet [05:49] MLanden: :) [05:55] How's your evening coming along,frullet? [05:56] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0fced90684cb5ccd) joined ##slackware. [06:01] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-248-134.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [06:02] frullet: didn't get anywhere with that code- it was doing its job , but it was only finding one block of text [06:02] vinegaro1n (n=sam@202-180-123-62.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Client Quit [06:03] hskill (n=homeskil@pool-173-58-199-136.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [06:03] Well, I could not get KDE3 to compile on Slackware64 but I found some working packages [06:06] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [06:06] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:06] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0fced90684cb5ccd) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [06:06] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) joined ##slackware. [06:07] nbuonanno (i=nbuonann@you.dontlike.us) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:07] nbuonanno (i=nbuonann@you.dontlike.us) joined ##slackware. [06:08] nbuonanno (i=nbuonann@you.dontlike.us) left irc: Client Quit [06:09] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl11-3-186.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [06:10] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-117-136.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:10] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [06:10] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD89C1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [06:12] nbuonanno (n=nbuonann@cpe-74-67-15-46.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:12] why do you want kde3 on slack64? [06:14] cause kde3 > kde4 ;) [06:14] i just ditched kde4 for xfce [06:14] I ditched it for fluxbox [= [06:14] too hefty for my eeepc, plus i couldn't figure out how to use it [06:15] nbuonanno: same - what model eeepc you got? [06:15] 900 :( [06:15] 1000h here [= [06:15] bah [06:15] compl3x, it'd be a real pain to do. (a) kernel headers have to be dropped down to that of slack 12.1 (b) python 2.6 causes failure of kde-bindings to build. it should be able to be done, but it'd be some work. [06:15] got an atom in that? [06:15] Old_Fogie: It wasn't me doing it , I was just giving a reason why hed want kde3 ;) [06:15] Nick change: Yudha_HT -> yht|off [06:16] nbuonanno: I beleive so [06:16] oh ok [06:16] compl3x: lucky. my first bit of hindsight was that i should've waited, and bought something with an atom [06:16] MLanden: yeh cant complain [06:16] frullet: good to hear [06:17] compl3x: fair enough, ill take a look at it in a few [06:17] nbuonanno: haha I wish I waited - theres a newer one out that looks damn sexy :p [06:17] my second bit was that i should've skipped on asus. consumer reports rated them at the bottom of the pile for battery life [06:17] (for netbooks) [06:17] frullet: the code? [06:17] the regex yes [06:17] moh2a (n=mohaa@92.49.90.231) joined ##slackware. [06:17] frullet: thanks man [= [06:18] nbuonanno: battery life on the 1000h isn't amazing, but its not terrible [06:18] can you beat two hours? the 900 gets me two if i'm lucky [06:18] my netbooks get two hours as well. [06:18] nbuonanno: tbh I haven't played with it much since I bought it [06:18] nbuonanno: put -current on it the other day tho [06:19] yeah, i just did that recently myself [06:19] i actually want to try switching off a huge kernel [06:19] nbuonanno: what have you done for video drivers on yours? intel based arn't they [06:19] last time i attempted it, everything went haywire [06:19] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.15.252) joined ##slackware. [06:19] whatever's built into the 2.6.29 [06:19] hmm yeah [06:19] KDE3 is better--that is why. [06:20] i should probably look for specific drivers, no? [06:20] or is that it? [06:20] nbuonanno: I haven't a clue :p [06:20] heh [06:20] well, i'm not having any display problems, so we'll leave it as-is [06:22] nbuonanno, a nice way to find out which drivers (e.g. modules) are being used, in a human-like readable format I find is using "lshal" as root. Do something like "lshal /someplace-writeable/lshal.log". Then just read thru it in a text editor, look for sata controller, or ide controller, etc. It will say "driver in use" or something like that. Then wright that down for yourself. The name won't be the same, as what the fi [06:22] lename of the module is, but it will be close. then go over to /lib/modules/kernel-version and use the find command , or just browse and find the name of the filename/module there you need. [06:22] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [06:23] polatov (n=polatov@213.211.101.184) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:24] nbuonanno: mw allready taught you that probably. ;) [06:25] chopp: a small portion of his lessons fail to absorb [06:26] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [06:26] haha [06:26] if i'm lucky, i figure those out on my own, then go back later and tell him i remember him telling me [06:26] [ in bed ] [06:27] *headdesk* [06:27] nbuonanno: sorry I couldn't resist. :P [06:28] tuanld91 (n=tuanld91@58.187.131.45) joined ##slackware. [06:28] Action: nbuonanno shrugs. [06:28] there's nothing worse than an opportunity wasted [06:28] is there anyone here that has a few seconds available to help me with a regular expression? [06:29] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:29] never mind [06:29] figured it out :) [06:29] FFS how do you mute firefox? [06:30] Old_Fogie: this is supposed to be readable? [06:31] nbuonanno, would you prfer for me to point you to /proc :) [06:31] look for those words I told ya sata, ide you'll get the idea [06:31] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-181-126.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left ##slackware. [06:32] it became slightly more legible as i scrolled down [06:32] damn nfs to hell! [06:32] locked up /mnt [06:32] brb [06:32] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [06:33] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.77.58) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:37] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:37] man, had to use sysresq for that, wth [06:39] Old_Fogie: ouch [06:39] yeah, the nfs mount was hanging, -v -a -r -t did no good for me there, [06:39] almost looked like '-f-a-r-t' :) [06:39] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-164-37.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [06:40] alisonken1noc, hee hee yea, maybe I should've pulled the tower's finger :) [06:40] Old_Fogie: ok - I'm on the night shift. what keeps you up these hours? [06:40] Old_Fogie: don't pull too hard.....never know how bad a core dump it could be..:D [06:40] alisonken1noc, bad economy :) [06:41] doh! [06:41] alisonken1noc, gotta figure out/ price 100 jobs to get 1 these days [06:41] pretty close [06:41] I'm s'posed to be semi-retired, lies! [06:41] well - I'm supposed to be retired - just ask Uncle Sam [06:42] alisonken1noc, I don't trust him any more :) [06:42] mib_3300vd (i=d47b5bde@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eb6847a7212dc334) joined ##slackware. [06:42] hey - he keeps sending me checks, so I'm happy with that [06:42] hi all, i've a problem with slackware and mdadm [06:42] is possible enabling auto-resyncing for mirrors? [06:42] thanks [06:43] mdadm shouldn't have anything to do with rsync [06:43] IIRC, mdadm is for raids [06:44] when i've a fault on raid1 disks, how can i re-enabling disk in fault? [06:44] auto-resyncing with mirrors would be done with a standard cron job? [06:44] ttyX (n=slacker@115.108.13.72) joined ##slackware. [06:44] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:44] don't know about software raid, so have to ask someone else about that [06:44] can someone tel me why vmware fails to findkernel headers on my system? [06:44] should be in the man page [06:45] ttyX: because you don't have kernel header sources in your vm image? [06:45] alisonken1noc: ok thanks [06:45] alisonken1noc, ttyX maybe kernel version is too new ? [06:45] Old_Fogie, yes it is [06:45] amusing current [06:45] alisonken1noc, the whole "any-any-patch-from-some-random-russian-guy" is required, use at your own risk I say. [06:45] but I installed the headers [06:45] mib_3300vd, remove the bad hard drive ... replace it with a good one and ..create the same partition table [06:45] mib_3300vd (i=d47b5bde@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eb6847a7212dc334) left ##slackware. [06:46] ttyX, that was for you I mean [06:46] Old_Fogie: that would be a first - "slackware and kernel version too new" .... [06:46] then cat /proc/mdstat it should auto sync [06:46] alisonken1noc, ttyX vmware doesnt support very recent kernels ever, it's why I stopped using it. [06:46] and I dont use hacked elf files [06:46] m screwed? [06:46] of course it depends how his raid1 was build ..... [06:47] Action: ttyX goes back to vbox [06:47] ttyX, don't know what to tell you. if you're *sure* you have the kernel headers installed, and verified it in vmware doc's which kernel they support, then yea, unless you get the hacked elf files for the installer. [06:47] compl3x: pastebin the text your trying to process through the regex and tell me what you wanted it to do.. [06:48] ttyX, I use vbox, it's less of a pita I find on linux hosts just for that reason, no joke. [06:49] ttyX, tho you could try building an older kernel and installing that and seeing [06:49] maybe the stock slack 12.2 kernel [06:49] ttyX, the 2.6.27 series is long term support for security/bug fixes from kernel.org ; maybe that's an option for you [06:49] yep [06:50] I don't know when it stops being supported tho , in case you're doing this for some business purposes fyi [06:50] wil have to blacklist kernel first [06:51] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:51] polatov (n=polatov@213.211.101.184) joined ##slackware. [06:51] frullet: okay buddy - my perl book just arrived aswell [= [06:52] compl3x: that was quick delivery [06:52] frullet: I know, I was suprised my self - arrived two hours ago but ignored the post thinking it wouldn't be mine. [06:52] frullet: I'll pm you its easier if thats cool [06:53] yeh no worries [06:53] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:53] greetings chaps ;) [06:54] hi2all [06:54] how i can to creat virtual net interfaces& [06:54] ?? [06:55] ok there's a fix on vmware forums :) [06:55] polatov: what exactly do you want? [06:55] eth0:0 [06:55] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:55] eth0:1 [06:55] polatov: ifconfig eth0:1 IP [06:55] polatov: ifconfig eth0:2 IP [06:55] etc... [06:55] ttyX, which is? [06:56] guys, is there a way to scan a network hdd ;) [06:56] http://communities.vmware.com/message/1218802 [06:57] i have a backup hdd... which is connected via ethernet on the switch...but i need something to be able to scan that for viruses ...etc [06:57] The-spiki, but i must creat it's after reboot again [06:57] polatov: add the commands to /etc/rc.d/rc.local [06:57] is there something? or how can i search for such a thing..what is it called? [06:57] polatov: OR edit /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf [06:57] The-spiki, ok. thanks [06:58] how can i to reboot network daemon? [06:58] The-Croupier: mount that via fuse and scan it as "local" [06:58] polatov: /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 restart [06:59] polatov: or alternatively /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 eth0_restart ... etc [06:59] ok, tnx [06:59] np [06:59] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Lost terminal" [06:59] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@20150128167.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [06:59] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [07:00] The-spiki ;) thanks .. i suppose that could be done via livecd as well right? [07:00] ttyX, ah . does it work for you? [07:00] nope [07:00] reinstalling now [07:01] The-Croupier: yes [07:01] The-spiki, thank you [07:01] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78.86.1.110) joined ##slackware. [07:01] The-Croupier: i am not shure you understand me btw... that backup hdd you connect via ethernet... you have access to it from your machine. right? [07:02] it's probably accessed via smb file sharing protocol... right? [07:02] The-spiki, yes [07:03] The-spiki, i have to do it from a windows machine aparently.. but i could convice them to allow me at least to use a livecd [07:04] in that case, you can mount it to your linux machine... and scan with clamav as "local" files (in case clamav cannot directly scan smb shared files) [07:04] The-spiki, i do have access frm this machine..its inside the network.;) do i need anything else apart from a pc,livecd with antivirus updated,ip-of-hdd,fuse, [07:05] The-spiki, i am can not write correctly about virt interface [07:05] nothing else i could think of [07:05] eth0:1 [07:05] The-spiki, i see...thanks again..more than helpful [07:06] polatov: pastebin... or edit inet1.conf again, this time carefully :) [07:06] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [07:08] slackytude (i=8d644b47@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a72021f95d4900bf) joined ##slackware. [07:09] greetings [07:10] Ekc_ (n=iskar@79-100-25-232.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [07:10] Ekc (n=iskar@77-85-10-82.btc-net.bg) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:10] likevinyl (n=likeviny@190.245.121.39) left irc: "Saliendo" [07:10] y0,slackytude [07:11] y0 MLanden [07:11] offtopic: what command/symbols would a person put around a web url in a text file, let's say http://www.google.com , so that if you dragged that file onto an empty window of Firefox, or opera, it would be a link you can click on ? [07:11] nothing [07:11] either the browser is smart about it or it wont work [07:11] well, it just shows as http://www.google.com if , but it wont let me click on it as a doo-dad [07:12] slackytude, oh...hmmm [07:12] so then I gotta do it in word processor then, ok ty slackytude [07:12] Old_Fogie: you're talking about hyperlinking,right? [07:12] yht (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) joined ##slackware. [07:12] MLanden, yes [07:13] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:13] yes, but in a text file... that depends on application reading that file [07:13] I basically wanted a file with about 10 links or so in it, that I can drag onto a web browser and it have links for homepages of projects. so I can click and go there real fast to check for updates, etc [07:13] instead of using 'bookmarks' or favorites [07:13] create an html page with hyperlinks? [07:14] ttyX, yea was just trying to use screen/nano :) [07:14] Old_Fogie: not Trac is it? [07:14] guess that's what I gotta do [07:14] well, yeah, but if the browser doesnt support drag&drop, it wont do anything [07:14] most will accept that, tho [07:14] Action: slackytude tests [07:14] slackytude, yea like opera just opens it up as display only , I see all the text of my url's, but they're not clickable [07:15] so html file it is then. [07:15] just created a file foo with a link in it [07:15] works for opera [07:15] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-248-134.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: "Leaving." [07:15] slackytude, hmmm it doesn't here [07:16] doesnt need to be valid html, apparently [07:16] Old_Fogie: really? [07:16] I did include a google but nothing else [07:16] yea, I just have a text file, with contents, http://www.google.com ; drag it on opera, I just see the http... but it's not clickable [07:16] yea that's what I neeed that code crap [07:16] kamaji (n=kamaji@137.222.233.63) joined ##slackware. [07:16] lemee try that :) [07:16] yeah, gotta be a link alrite, or its just text [07:17] gtg thanks The-spiki again ;) [07:17] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [07:18] cat fog-plaintext | awk '{print ""$1"
"}' > fog-clickable [07:19] Old_Fogie: ^ [07:19] anyone familiar with setting up openvpn? [07:19] The-spiki: dirty! [07:19] The-spiki: I like it [07:19] Zordrak: what's the problem? :) [07:19] Zordrak: somewhat [07:19] could anyone tell me the difference between .irssi conf and irssi.config [07:19] slackytude, that didn't work, but I played, and came up with this google [07:20] The-spiki, ah neat thatnk [07:20] thanks [07:20] got any **/good/** getting started links/tips/things to watch out for? [07:20] slackytude: yeah. i would alias that as command (into .bashrc) and sleep tight :) [07:20] I know nothing about web links :) [07:20] Old_Fogie: place a .html behind that output file [07:20] Zordrak: i can paste you mine config.. nothing special though [07:20] Zordrak: not really, its pretty easy [07:21] MLanden, ok [07:21] never had any major hassles with it. not on XP, 2k3 or linux [07:21] The-spiki: if you would... i have to be careful to get it right as i wall have people working from home using it [07:21] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-248-134.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [07:21] The-spiki: you use certs? [07:21] the best way to learn is to see examples of production configs [07:22] Zordrak: give me 2 minutes to obfuscate some bits :) [07:22] tyvm [07:23] The-spiki, wow you're the man, that's really cool :) [07:25] slackytude: yes [07:25] Zordrak: http://pastebin.ca/1436104 <- this is openvpn server [07:25] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.7.179) joined ##slackware. [07:26] Zordrak: on server add into /etc/rc.d/rc.local these 2 lines [07:26] modprobe tun [07:26] openvpn --config /etc/openvpn/openvpn.conf-l2n [07:27] Zordrak: you need to create certs for The-spiki's config to work. take a look at openvpns howto on that [07:27] i would assume theyre pretty much the same as any other pem [07:27] they are ^-^ [07:27] woo [07:28] I think you cal openssl for that , afaik [07:28] im gonna have to get someone to verify me on cacert [07:28] Zordrak: http://pastebin.ca/1436108 <- this is openvpn client [07:28] cant be renewing every 6 bloody months [07:28] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-194-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [07:28] thanks :) [07:28] slackytude: do you do it without certs? [07:29] The-spiki: do you sign your own or use cacert? [07:29] Zordrak: you dont, really. thats a very limited setup. that was why I asked [07:29] buh? [07:29] you can use static keys, but that limits the number of connections [07:30] orite.. and then its a diff port for each right? [07:30] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [07:30] Static Key disadvantages Limited scalability -- one client, one server [07:30] Zordrak: no. these certs are created with easy-rsa tool from openvpn [07:31] ah, right [07:31] yht|off (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:32] did i just miss a discussion about vpn? that's a pity. [07:32] slackytude: right.... one running daemon per port per client [07:32] slava_dp: still in it [07:32] The-spiki: cool.. [07:32] Zordrak: yeah, but dont bother with it. using certs is way better,imho [07:33] with this kind of "setup" i created few point to point vpn's between few machines... (persistent tun$number devices etc, because of the firewalls and routing tables) [07:33] slackytude: *nod* [07:33] would be too limited here [07:33] Zordrak: just imagine your routing table with 3 clients [07:33] isnt the routing table constantly fluid? [07:33] if you do a one subnet per connection [07:33] Zordrak: btw, there is some kind of openvpn gui for windows i think [07:34] modified by the daemon [07:34] yes [07:34] my intention would be to try to provide a fair nuwber of clients access with dhcp [07:34] Zordrak: for 3 servers running on differet subnets? maybe, but its probably a mess [07:35] joining them into the main subnet of the LAN [07:35] credo (n=36th@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:35] using single-port/certs [07:35] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:35] easy [07:35] you need some more rules for that, tho [07:35] Zordrak: ... [07:35] http://openvpn.net/index.php/documentation/howto.html#dhcp [07:36] *nod* [07:36] so the best vpn solution would be openvpn? [07:36] you can forward packets with 2 easy peasy iptables rules... [07:36] (as i am) [07:37] slava_dp: not sure if its the best. but its easy to setup, good to maintain and does what it needs to do [07:37] Im sure it's the best personally [07:37] having read the theory comparing it to IPSec implemantiaitons [07:37] what about ipsec vpn? how is it set up? [07:37] PAINFULLY [07:38] for linux? [07:39] and..... as far as i understand openvpn needs a daemon per connection running, correct? and each daemon on it's own port. [07:40] slava_dp: using certificates, only one daemon and port is required [07:40] nvision (n=nvision@g230013107.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [07:40] aye [07:40] there are even web frontends for key/cert managment for openvpn [07:40] rully? [07:41] yeah [07:41] gnubien (n=e@97.100.245.71) joined ##slackware. [07:41] oh, that is great. and do i need to assign a different subnet to each end of the vpn to make routing possible? or can they all be in one subnet? [07:41] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:42] like if i want to have an openvpn server and 5 clients with networks attached to each of them. [07:42] they will all be on the same subnet [07:42] server and clients [07:43] take care,folks..talk with everyone later...:D [07:43] The-spiki: 2.0.9 or 2.1b? [07:43] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-141-170.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [07:43] tuanld91 (n=tuanld91@58.187.131.45) left irc: "Leaving." [07:43] clients can also connect to the server LAN and each others LAN, too, if you tell ovpn so [07:44] and what will happen if those other lans have the same addressing scheme? like one lan is 192.168.0.0/24 and the other one is the same. [07:44] it dies a burning death [07:44] heh [07:44] :-D [07:44] heh. [07:44] actually, I dont know [07:44] I never did that [07:44] slackytude: any pointers to the cert management UI stuff [07:45] christian (n=christia@kobz-590ef049.pool.einsundeins.de) joined ##slackware. [07:45] hello [07:45] so you really need to plan your network structure when implementing vpns, right? [07:45] Action: spook knows the answer but won't say [07:45] Zordrak: check freshmeat, should be dozend or so. never liked them that much [07:45] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:45] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:45] Zordrak: easier/faster to do with bash scripts, imho [07:46] *nod*... but the user management is the painful bit of the current implementation [07:46] so looking at option [07:46] *s [07:46] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:46] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:47] oo [07:47] "openvpn allocates one /30 subnet per client" [07:47] that's what i thought. complex routing problem. [07:48] not really [07:48] if your iptables rules are good [07:48] polatov (n=polatov@213.211.101.184) left irc: "Leaving" [07:48] if you're good at networking/routing [07:49] :) [07:49] Zordrak: where did you take that from? [07:49] faq [07:49] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [07:50] hmmmmmm [07:51] "on some versions of slackware have an openssl library built without Blowfish cipher support" [07:51] thats strange [07:51] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) joined ##slackware. [07:51] the /30 subnet stuff I mean [07:52] Nick change: moh2a -> mohaa [07:52] Action: slava_dp needs a level up on iptables. [07:53] so much stuff to learn [07:53] oh, I see its needed for win clients [07:53] Action: Zordrak sends a green mushroom [07:53] makes sense now [07:53] Gadotti (n=x@201.54.199.37) joined ##slackware. [07:54] hunfortunately.. i require the tap method.. tun wont suffice [07:54] Lexus1 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) left ##slackware. [07:54] tun/tap is sorta the same thing [07:54] Action: slava_dp grows up, puts on an apron and starts firing green stuff [07:55] I use tap for windows clients when I need to access Netbois stuff, like samba shares or stuff [07:55] by the way... just so you know.. a wet teatowel can take your skin off [07:56] Action: Zordrak has a plastered skinless patch [07:56] I shall remeber that [07:56] Zordrak: whipping? [07:56] why you need ethernet bridging? [07:56] a wet teatowel? [07:57] Action: slackytude goes smoking [07:57] yup [07:57] slackytude, give up [07:57] Gadotti (n=x@201.54.199.37) left irc: Client Quit [07:57] =#win boxes [07:57] Gadotti (n=x@201.54.199.37) joined ##slackware. [07:57] lol. [07:58] Action: slava_dp did not get it about teatowel and win boxes. [07:58] Gadotti (n=x@201.54.199.37) left irc: Client Quit [07:59] unrelateds [07:59] uhh. what's a teatowel then? [07:59] >.< [08:01] i've reread this conversation... here is the thing. just in case it needs clarification [08:01] The-spiki: no thanks [08:01] of course, win boxes [08:02] in rc.firewall add VPN_IF_V=tun1 ... $IPT -A FORWARD -i $VPN_IF_V -o $EXT_IF -j ACCEPT ... $IPT -A FORWARD -i $EXT_IF -o $VPN_IF_V -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT [08:05] at openvpn clients add "route ip/ vpn_gateway" [08:06] why the state dependant rule? [08:06] so, no need to use the openvpn subnets at all... [08:06] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:09] .. [08:09] shorewall ftw [08:09] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-194-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:12] shorewall ftl [08:12] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-5a185538b62f928f) joined ##slackware. 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[08:32] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.251.176) joined ##slackware. [08:34] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.15.252) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:34] yo bitches.. wheres the roaring applause and kudos? :p [08:35] Action: Old_Fogie golf claps [08:35] :D [08:36] kethry_ (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) joined ##slackware. [08:36] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:37] Action: Zordrak is mirroring 64-current as i speak [08:39] Action: compl3x might have to do that later [08:39] Action: alisonken1noc mirrored 64-current last week :) [08:40] Administrator_ (n=Administ@193.2.84.237) joined ##slackware. [08:40] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [08:41] we seriously need a good UK mirror [08:41] Zordrak: I know - but I get decent speeds of the osoul mirror [08:42] better than slackware.no? [08:42] osuosl* [08:42] i see no qt documents when i open qtassistant [08:42] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.8.254) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:42] do i need to install something additional? [08:42] Zordrak: not tried it , i get about 700kbs down of osuosl witch is roughly my max [08:42] I mirror slackware.mirrors.tds.net, but limit to 60k speed due to isp issues at home [08:42] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: [08:42] will try osuosl [08:43] fred: "Dhvrgyl jbexvat njnl ba 32-ovg pbzcngvovyvgl." thanks for that. :P [08:43] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [08:43] mirrors.vbi.vt.edu Zordrak thats what I used to use - speeds are pretty good [08:43] Gadotti (n=x@201.54.199.37) joined ##slackware. [08:43] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [08:44] Gadotti (n=x@201.54.199.37) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:45] never sure mhat thebest way is te report if throughput [08:45] netwatch does the job.. but it's a bit weak [08:45] slackytude: I'm here now [08:46] iptraf i guess [08:46] bojevnik (n=Administ@193.2.84.237) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:47] Gadotti (n=x@201.54.199.37) joined ##slackware. [08:47] Zordrak, nload [08:48] at [08:48] *ta [08:48] Zordrak: have a look at ntop at SBo [08:49] oo i like nload [08:50] chopp: fyi im getting doubxle the speed with slackware.no over osuosl [08:50] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:51] wtf?! ntop requires a group definition [08:51] and user... [08:52] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [08:53] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:53] <_RadioHead> hi ppl [08:54] Zordrak: this might convince you: http://www.ntop.org/overview.html [08:55] it's about 300000x more complex than my needs [08:55] allright so be it [08:57] iftop? [08:58] nload is what i neede [08:59] iftop is good too .. nload is only to show all the bandwidth usage for an interface nothing else .. iftop shows per ip usage and port etc... [08:59] all i wanted was the summary [08:59] Zordrak, try ths nload -i 2024 -o 2024 -s 7 -t 500 -u H -U H eth0 [08:59] for per port id prally use iptraf [08:59] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.15.252) joined ##slackware. [09:00] it will show traffic summary with a max of 2Mbs and in Kilobytes [09:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [09:01] ALVAN: not much use when im pulling 3-4MBit :) [09:02] -[uU] H is useful tho [09:02] well you will see high graphic peeks if you put a 2Mb/s limit .. but the real traffic is shown too [09:02] Administrator_ (n=Administ@193.2.84.237) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:02] Administrator_ (n=Administ@193.2.84.237) joined ##slackware. [09:03] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:04] i see no qt documents when i open qtassistant. does someone use it here? :) [09:05] nvision (n=nvision@g230013107.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:05] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:05] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [09:09] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Client Quit [09:09] Mornin all. [09:09] sup foo [09:16] antoni (n=user@72.pool85-53-20.dynamic.orange.es) joined ##slackware. [09:16] hi all [09:16] man [09:17] ttyX (n=slacker@115.108.13.72) left irc: "Leaving" [09:17] where can I view the current slackbook 3.0 (actually in development) [09:17] trying to get a cups printer added for 20 minutes [09:17] seems it worked all the time but by the time I got to the printer, my papers were gone -_- [09:17] damn thieves [09:17] slackytude: you are 2% complete then [09:17] nah [09:18] it works, but I was confusing that there were no prints in output, but no error message either [09:18] someone just took the damn things [09:19] eOliva (n=dutche@200.169.133.98) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [09:19] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.118) joined ##slackware. [09:21] poona (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042315]" [09:22] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [09:24] nvision (n=nvision@g230013107.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [09:24] nvision (n=nvision@g230013107.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:24] antoni, does 2.0 not suit your needs? [09:25] antoni, your only option is to mail the developer :) [09:25] christian (n=christia@kobz-590ef049.pool.einsundeins.de) left ##slackware. [09:28] Gadotti (n=x@201.54.199.37) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [09:31] dios2 (i=FREELOVE@88.241.134.166) joined ##slackware. [09:31] nophis (n=amenophi@unaffiliated/nophis) joined ##slackware. [09:33] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:34] win 23 [09:34] guh [09:37] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.90.231) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:37] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.118) joined ##slackware. [09:37] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [09:37] gooph (n=gooph@pool-71-96-224-14.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [09:39] wokker (i=4c642e77@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8338c22be232054e) joined ##slackware. [09:40] HeatHawk[LI] (n=kevin@fw.exitcertified.com) joined ##slackware. [09:40] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@97-86-234-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:40] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.251.176) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:41] im trying to install software and I get lssl errors. how does it fix? install is from source file and it configure fine but quits in make. [09:42] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:43] wokker: what is the name of the software you are compiling? [09:44] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [09:44] the sleuthit [09:44] sleuthkit [09:45] mib_5bf4ji (i=d47b5bde@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dab7700bed8696f5) joined ##slackware. [09:45] slackytude (i=8d644b47@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a72021f95d4900bf) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [09:45] ok, searching... [09:45] greetings [09:46] thx! [09:46] hi all, is possible to have stati device name in slackware 12.2? [09:46] static [09:46] wokker, did you check slackbuilds.org ;) [09:47] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/sleuthkit/ [09:47] dont know slackbuilds. [09:47] wokker: is that a default slack intall? the error you're getting is not normal for slackware. Looks like you are using debian. [09:47] wokker, check that link then [09:48] tiny (n=ivob@unaffiliated/tiny) left irc: "Leaving" [09:48] if what SpacePlod said is true than i cannot help ;) but if its for slackware.. then its really easy [09:48] dios_mio (i=FREELOVE@88.241.134.166) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:48] wokker: http://slackbuilds.org has reliable info [09:49] Emess (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left ##slackware ("Burn it with fire~~~"). [09:49] wokker: there are lots of stuff for slackware in www.slackbuilds.org a.k.a sbo ;) [09:49] wokker, including your sleuth [09:49] it is debian. i made a mistake here. i read so much slackwaer i forgot the computer is debian. i have a computer for slackware already, though. [09:50] srry [09:50] :D [09:50] busted [09:50] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.90.231) joined ##slackware. [09:51] doesnt make, install not work for most linuxes? [09:51] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [09:51] wokker: fwiw, you need to install build essential and libssl. or just do it the right way...Slackware and a slackbuild ;) [09:51] is the install different for every distribution? [09:52] i mean..if its not using some kind of pkg ;) if its from source..dont you just make then install? [09:52] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn251.91-127-46.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [09:52] The-Croupier: Debian does not install the required stuff by default. you need to add stuff. [09:52] SpacePlod, what do you mean? [09:52] "stuff" meaning ^^^ [09:52] like if you need any libraries...etc? [09:53] SpacePlod, "stuff" was your statement :P [09:53] The-Croupier: I know...it sounded silly so I tried to clarify (horribly, apparently) [09:54] SpacePlod, ;) lol [09:54] so.. stuff meaning? [09:54] _arfon_ (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) joined ##slackware. [09:54] libraries ? anything else? [09:54] Deb does not install some libs and build tools by default. [09:55] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-428175.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:55] but im sure it notifies you somehow...that you are missing things [09:55] It's been a couple of years since I did TSK on a deb system, but I seem to recall having to find gcc (build essential) [09:55] and some other things. [09:55] i see... [09:56] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [09:57] my old list included gcc g++ libc6-dev, zlibc, libssl, libncurses5, libexpat...it's a long list. [09:57] it "just works" in Slackware [09:58] SpacePlod, sbo ? ;) [09:58] libxpat -- is that patrik's lib? :p [09:58] it seems like a sign ... you need slackware [09:58] libxpat [09:58] error [09:59] wrong distro :p [09:59] The-Croupier: you really should check your languagebooks on the meaning of "ex" then ;-) [09:59] antoni (n=user@72.pool85-53-20.dynamic.orange.es) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:59] BP{k}, get that kaffeiene working yet? [09:59] Action: Old_Fogie hides [10:00] mib_5bf4ji (i=d47b5bde@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dab7700bed8696f5) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [10:00] BP{k}, i dont have so many "ex"s and all the ones i know are dirty... you dont want to know ;) [10:01] thx for the help. i'm going to redo this on my slackware box no. slackbuilds look good. [10:01] no / now [10:01] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:01] wokker (i=4c642e77@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8338c22be232054e) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [10:01] Administrator_ (n=Administ@193.2.84.237) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:01] Administrator_ (n=Administ@193.2.84.237) joined ##slackware. [10:01] if one has a slackware pc... why on earth would you join in from mibbit : [10:02] :( [10:02] cough, cough, The-Croupier, if memory serves me correctly here, you used it a couple two/three times no? :) [10:03] hk0i (n=hk0i@64.20.189.254) joined ##slackware. [10:03] maybe you're a windose user and are in this channel for fun. [10:03] whoever knows. [10:03] has anyone here had any luck installing adobe air on slackware? [10:04] hk0i, i tried but i failed, honestly. [10:04] Old_Fogie, did i? [10:04] would love to find out how to do it properly. [10:04] The-Croupier, mmmhmmm :) [10:04] if i did, i was young and foolish... after hanging around you these days, i believe i have grown wiser and older ;) [10:05] I see :I [10:05] cough,cough.. did i Old_Fogie ;) [10:05] The-Croupier: older for sure ;) [10:05] The-Croupier, or slow and complicated :) [10:05] Old_Fogie, talk for yourself ;) [10:05] lol [10:05] hk0i, so if you ever succeed tell me :) [10:05] ok constipated then [10:05] now you are talking [10:05] heret|c (n=heretic@c-71-199-141-98.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:07] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.83) joined ##slackware. [10:07] all jokes aside though, i do believe that i have learnt alot from hanging around here these couple of years [10:08] It seems all you have to do to install Adobe Air is to run its .bin file. [10:08] All this talking about old age makes me want to take out my cane and beat on some young slackers....jk [10:08] There's an error when running it though. [10:09] i think i better go ;) there is lots of hostility here at this hour... :( seeya laters guys ;) [10:09] gm152, hahah, you made it sound so easy ...only to find the 'Devil in the details' :) [10:09] kwallet or gnome-keyring need to be installed. [10:09] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [10:11] sheesh....ignore my stupid post. jeez......woke up with a bad chest cold [10:12] hitest, rub some vicks on it, works for me. [10:12] I wonder if those dependencies are the devil in the details. :) [10:12] gm152, oh did ya slap one of them in? does it work now? [10:13] I wonder why they make you have one of the wallets on board tho. [10:14] Not yet. I'm determining which package contains kwallet.,, kwalletd is present. [10:14] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [10:15] gm152, for kde3.5.10 it's kdeutils package [10:15] gm152, but kdelibs,kdebase is typically a must have too fwiw [10:16] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [10:19] slava_dp: I might have it working... it's half-working at least, I got it to open up tweetdeck but this particular air app doesn't seem to be working [10:20] Old_Fogie: thanks:) will do! [10:20] Administrator_ (n=Administ@193.2.84.237) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:21] Old_Fogie: I don't have kdeutils installed but it seems to be a different issue according to hk0i. [10:22] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) left irc: "Leaving" [10:23] randart (n=Mike@78.32.112.209) left ##slackware. [10:23] ah ok [10:23] I gotta bounce, it's nap time. cu all in lil' while. [10:23] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [10:26] slava_dp: it works :) [10:26] hk0i, so what did you do? [10:27] slava_dp: I downloaded the sdk and I run the adl binary directly, you have to extract the .air apps though with unzip. let me pull up a link for you [10:27] slava_dp: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/adobe-air-install-698034/#post3441875 [10:28] it's pretty extensive, you'll probably want to write a script for it, though I'm sure you can come up with something better than the one provided. [10:28] I mean for opening each individual app [10:28] zenlunatic (n=justin@c-68-49-196-217.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:30] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:30] slava_dp: the only thing bugging me right now is that the window disappears when I switch workspaces, I have to click the icon in the tray to bring it up minimized, and then click on it to open it [10:30] Karu (n=alch@78-28-70-114.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [10:30] but for all I know that could be the default behavior for this app [10:30] hk0i, thanks for the link, bookmarked :) [10:31] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-5a185538b62f928f) left irc: [10:32] urgh... python makes me want to throw up [10:32] I like python [10:32] person (n=ed@92.0.24.113) joined ##slackware. [10:33] Action: Zordrak gives hk0i a prize for being "special" and tells him he can have ice cream only if he's quiet [10:33] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-fbf0b27cc9112fac) joined ##slackware. [10:35] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:36] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [10:36] lol @ Zordrak [10:37] if giving me things makes your frustration go away, by all means go right ahead ;p [10:37] Action: agentc0re|work gives you a gun [10:37] :P [10:41] wahts worse than understanding someone else's python code? [10:41] understanding your own? [10:41] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:41] when it's undocumented... except for snippets in spanish! [10:41] programming with it? [10:42] not understanding it has to be worse than understanding it [10:42] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [10:42] wonder if the comments would be any good if you could read spanish [10:42] s/understanding/having to find a way to understand/ [10:42] they arent [10:42] i kxinda can [10:42] or if they're all like: i++; // incremento la variabla i [10:43] I guess the only thing works than that is not understanding spanish [10:44] Gestiona el api para la interaccion con el LDAP y la gestion del trac [10:44] simple spanish [10:44] but not enough commenting to make it make sense even if it was in english [10:44] of you understand / use python you have no soul [10:44] s/of/if/; [10:44] true [10:46] the only word there I'd have to look up would be gestion/gestiona (eh, and "trac", is that regular spanish or jargon?) [10:47] trac.edgewall.com [10:49] wicd is in python, does it make it a bad program? [10:49] gestion = "manage"... so, "manage the API for the interaction with the LDAP and the management of the trac" [10:49] so yeah, pretty useless [10:50] (or are there subtle shades of meaning I'm missing in my ignorance?) [10:50] no thats it [10:51] that's damn near information-free [10:51] trac is probably trac [10:51] oh [10:51] I just scrolled down :) [10:53] um, slackpkg and sbopkg are lovely [10:54] is there a setting in KDE somewhere to set the default web browser? this air app keeps opening konqueror and I don't know where it's getting that from [10:55] nophis (n=amenophi@unaffiliated/nophis) left irc: "Leaving" [10:57] hk0i, well try looking in the kde control center [10:58] slava_dp: yeah I couldn't find anything :\ [10:58] HeatHawk[LI] (n=kevin@fw.exitcertified.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:58] Action: slava_dp is at xfce right now... [10:58] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:58] slava_dp: oh i think I foudn it [10:58] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:59] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:59] grrr. [10:59] it was the KDE Components section [10:59] Firefox 3 doesn't seem to have a preference where I can stop it from searching on google for random junk typed in the URL bar [11:00] I type "random junk" and it turns that into http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=random+junk [11:00] Urchlay: edit, preferences, security [11:00] I was just looking at that... lemme look again then [11:00] aah. you meant "real" random junk [11:01] I see nothing there that looks like it does what I want [11:01] you want it not to translate that "random junk" into google search [11:01] right [11:01] i understand now... i think there is an option for that... lemme check [11:02] I already have a "quicksearch" bookmarklet whatever thingy for google, and for wikipedia, and 2 or 3 other sites... but they don't work in ff3 (they did in 2) [11:02] got to go. take care, slackers ;) [11:03] k_wolf (n=root@189.77.209.108) joined ##slackware. [11:04] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [11:05] I recall in firefox 2, there was a setting somewhere in Edit/Preferences, clearly marked [11:05] Urchlay: about:config [11:05] I was gonna say there's probably a hidden setting for it [11:05] if nothing else [11:05] Urchlay: keyword.URL [11:05] Urchlay: modify... remove the google string [11:05] Urchlay: Haha, from that link, http://images.opensports.com/images/dynamic_images/images/0942/3876/2000.jpg [11:06] agentc0re|work: :) [11:06] The-spiki: cool [11:07] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:07] off to work. later folks:) [11:07] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:07] Urchlay: np. there is also keyword.enabled that does something similar (appeding .com etc to "one word strings") [11:08] The-spiki: OK, now I correctly get "the URL is not valid and can't be loaded" if I enter "random junk" in the URL bar... but my bookmarklet quicksearches still fail :( [11:08] eh, well, no, not all of them fail, just the google one. Cute. [11:08] hm. did you try entering "keyword" to quicksearches? [11:09] do "manage search engines" then edit choose google and press "edit keyword"... type g [11:10] so you can get google search if you type "g urchlay" into address bar [11:10] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [11:10] eh, well, I went bookmarks -> quick searches -> google quicksearch, right-click to get to properties [11:10] novacrust (n=Crust@dhcp-0-13-10-db-a4-5d.cpe.mountaincable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:11] I don't know any other way to get there in the UI (where's "manage search engines"? don't see it in preferences...) [11:11] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-193-57-38.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:12] apparently I seriously suck ass at using GUIs [11:12] ah. not in preferences... it's on the right side of address bar... that small thingie, probably having big G... press "down faced arrow" on that to manage search engines [11:13] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-59-81.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:13] zenlunatic (n=justin@c-68-49-196-217.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:13] uh. well, maybe it isn't on the right side of address bar by default... but it looks as "small address bar" [11:13] ah. The thing I just figured out how to disable the other day. Gotcha. [11:14] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "leaving" [11:14] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined ##slackware. [11:14] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.118) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:15] paissad (n=paissad@12.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] if you visit site with that search f.e. www.slackbuilds.org you get that bright blue colored rectangle... that you can press and "add search engine" ... so you can search on slackbuilds directly from your "small search bar" [11:16] this is cute: if I change the keyword for my old quicksearch to "shit", it works... but if I change it to "g", it fails. [11:16] yeah [11:16] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [11:16] dammit [11:17] in there you can manage "keyword" option for search engines etc... [11:17] best thing since sliced bread [11:17] and those keywords work in the vimperator (firefox plugin) [11:17] apparently I can choose any keyword that *isn't* the letter g by itself [11:18] even f and h? [11:18] well, maybe it now colides with keyword you put (did you?) in that quicksearches from bookmarks [11:18] actually yes, I can use "h" just fine [11:19] dexen (i=c2c54f12@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-593e4e3c1b2d0305) joined ##slackware. [11:19] g works for me :) [11:19] gello [11:19] hello*, even [11:19] The-spiki: no, it won't accept the "g" (it says "you have entered a keyword that's in use by a bookmark", even after I changed the bookmark one to something else) [11:19] khm... restart firefox? :) [11:20] jeev (n=email@24.180.16.19) joined ##slackware. [11:20] I swear I'm about to install the firefox 2 tgz package from slamd64 and call it a day [11:20] (before running ff3 for the first time I made a backup of ~/.mozilla, even) [11:21] um, maybe you should give konqueror a try...? [11:21] i see no qt documents when i open qtassistant. does someone use it here? :) [11:22] kr_eten: -current? [11:22] yes [11:22] Good morning people :) [11:22] kr_eten: have the same problem [11:22] ended up using their website [11:23] me too :) [11:23] Nick change: hk0i -> grekkos [11:23] but assistant is better [11:24] kr_eten: I think the qt4 in current comes without documentation [11:24] kr_eten: probably you could download a Qt package from some `stable' slackware [11:24] and only extract the documentation [11:25] or wait for current to add it :) [11:25] well it sounds as solution [11:25] question: are the (unstable) packages for slackware64 available somewhere? [11:25] but it could be old [11:25] searching on the packages.slackware.it yields no results :( [11:25] kr_eten: not *that* old :P [11:25] eddie_grey (n=eddie@200.138.220.246) joined ##slackware. [11:25] eddie_grey (n=eddie@200.138.220.246) left ##slackware. [11:25] don't care to run konq [11:26] kr_eten: don't use the documentation from 12.2 for -current. It's *ancient* [11:26] its 4.3 maybe [11:26] it is* [11:26] nvision (n=nvision@g230013107.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [11:27] dexen, numerous mirrors already have slackware64, try looking at others? [11:27] *slackware64-current [11:27] caio (n=caio@190.244.32.54) joined ##slackware. [11:28] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-164-37.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:28] rob0: ok, now i see it on a polish mirror. thanks~ [11:28] will slack64 provide 32 bit libraries, too? as the slamd64 does? [11:29] dexen: it doesn't, right now [11:29] I don't know if any announcement has been made, but I suspect it will happen soon. [11:29] can we switch from a standard -current to a 64 bits -current? [11:29] K, not without a 64-bit kernel running. [11:29] Herman (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:30] dexen: but if you need 32-bit support, take a look at Fred's work-in-progress at ftp://anorien.warwick.ac.uk/slamd64/slackware64-current/slackware64/ [11:30] Kaapa: i switched from slackware-current to slamd64-current with almost no problems; just needed to run ldconfig once or twice [11:30] rob0: can't we isntallpkg the usual way and then isntall and reboot? [11:30] s/isntall/install lilo/ [11:30] you sure want kernel first, and glibc second, and only then other tools [11:30] I don't know whether fred's 32-bit stuff will actually end up in official slackware64 or not [11:31] TheTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:31] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-428175.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:31] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:32] Urchlay: do you think it would be a mistake to install 32 bit libs from slamd64 on top of slackware64? [11:32] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [11:33] dexen: eh, not really a mistake, but fred has said they're not quite right. I did try out aaa_elflibs32 by itself, and it didn't cause any problems, and it did allow running simple (non-X) 32-bit binaries [11:33] i see [11:33] a recompilation using their build scripts is a viable option for me, too; we'll see [11:33] thanks for the input~ [11:33] dexen (i=c2c54f12@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-593e4e3c1b2d0305) left irc: "mibbit.com: thankies" [11:34] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.227.71) joined ##slackware. [11:35] The-spiki: does firefox store the bookmarks somewhere besides ~/.mozilla/firefox//bookmarks.html now? [11:36] Kaapa: maybe ... any install script that tries to do anything chrooted in the $ROOT will fail, but I don't know if (/ how many) scripts do that. [11:37] hum... k [11:37] rob0: I installed slack64 from a running slamd64 system with a series of 'installpkg --root /mnt/new ~/slack64/a/*.txz' type commands (changed the a to ap, d, etc etc.) [11:37] /mnt/new started out as an empty partition [11:38] if you're installing all the packages in order, the chrooted install scripts work fine (that's how they work if you install from the CD, too) [11:38] Urchlay, the question pertains to doing this from a running 32-bit system. [11:39] rob0: ugh. In that case you oughtta be able to replace the 32-bit kernel with a 64-bit one, reboot, then do the same thing [11:39] but I haven't actually tried that [11:40] SuN (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:40] Nick change: neonflux_ -> neonflux [11:42] this is *murdering* me. "you have chosen a keyword that's in use by a bookmark"... can you please for satan's sake *show me which bookmark* then?! [11:42] or maybe offer the option to blindly remove the bookmark [11:44] anyone have any advice to offer other than "rm -rf ~/.mozilla and start over from scratch"? [11:45] _dieter_ (n=dieter@92.116.91.70) joined ##slackware. [11:47] SuN (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:48] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:48] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [11:49] Does cdrecord detect if its a DVD or CD ISO file? if speed=16 how does it know to burn at DVD 16x or at CD 16x speeds? [11:49] Hey firebird619 hows it going? [11:49] Hey lf4, going great, thanks. you? [11:50] hey firebird619 [11:50] lf4: you use growisofs to burn DVDs [11:50] hey complex, how's it going? [11:50] Hey Urchlay [11:50] firebird619: good you? [11:50] compl3x: great, thanks. :) [11:50] unless maybe cdrecord has recently been updated to included DVD support and I didn't get the memo :) [11:51] _dieter_ (n=dieter@92.116.91.70) left ##slackware. [11:51] hm. Apparently yes, cdrecord does do DVDs now [11:52] you must not have got the memo. :D [11:52] SuN (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:52] Urchlay: lol yep DVD and blu-ray but still I wonder how it figures out if its a DVD or CD :P haha [11:53] firebird619: its going well haven really been in here for the past 4 days though XD i had a life for a split second haha [11:53] is there an option for it to specify? Maybe it just automatically detects the size of the media and goes from there. [11:53] it probably queries the drive [11:54] the drive can tell it what type of media is inserted [11:54] lf4: haha, just for a split second? then you came back here? :P [11:54] firebird619: it seems to be an auto detect because I have read the whole man file and did searching online. [11:54] firebird619: yep :) if I go in the real world its scary [11:54] on my drive, that should probably be read as "auto defect" [11:54] Heh, the man page for cron turned 15 this year. [11:54] Action: Urchlay really needs a new drive... [11:55] Urchlay: what type of car do you have now? ;) [11:55] what kind if drive you have now? It's going bad? [11:56] Urchlay: it indeed is possible to run a 32-bit userspace under a 64-bit kernel. I have 2 such hybrid machines here. [11:56] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [11:56] lf4: one with 3 wheels and half a steering wheel. quite inefficient, but works. [11:56] :P [11:57] :) [11:57] Hey Camarade_Tux, how's it going? [11:57] hey firebird619, nice, thanks, and you ? :) [11:57] great, thanks. :) [11:57] lf4: a broken saturn. Hopefully will be getting a phone call today, telling me I have a fixed saturn [11:58] Camarade_Tux: that uzbl looks nice, you've used it? [11:58] firebird619, nope, I was quite busy...^W^Wsupposed to be quite busy ;p [11:58] credo (n=36th@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [11:58] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Client exiting" [11:59] Camarade_Tux: lol, I tried to build it but it failed on make. :) [11:59] Urchlay: oh man broken is not good. [11:59] firebird619: I have a crappy OEM DVD writer that's been getting steadily sicker for the past year. It used to be able to burn DVDs or CDs, now it can only burn CDs, and last week it got where it can't even read burned CDs that it created (though it'll still work with commercially mastered CDs and DVDs) [12:00] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-fbf0b27cc9112fac) left irc: [12:00] lf4: I hit a tree stump I couldn't see... and 2 minutes later there was a 6' diameter puddle of transmission fluid on the ground :( [12:00] Alright cdrecord does auto detect if its CD or DVD media but the stupid thing is burning at 6x instead of 16x lol 1/4 of the DVD is burned... slow. haha [12:00] firebird619, I'll probably check it but later on [12:01] Urchlay: haha, that's one messed up drive. I just got a new LG (sata) burner a few months ago, it works great. The first one I got went bad, but used Live chat to talk to LG and I got a new one within a week. [12:01] right now, I need to repair a friend's computer : boot loaders fail there [12:01] Urchlay: oh that really is bad... so the transmision is getting replaced? [12:01] Camarade_Tux: yeah, let me know if it builds for you, if/when you do try it. [12:01] (I had managed to install grub but with greeeeaaaaat difficulties) [12:01] GRUB, are you insane man? :P lilo ftw!!! [12:02] lilo just doesn't work [12:02] Camarade_Tux: GRUB isnt that difficult to install lol what were you doing? [12:02] it *ABSOLUTELY* doesn't install [12:02] Action: lf4 uses GRUB :) [12:02] lf4: It may be burning slower, but at least it's burning. I always set things to burn slower anyway. :P [12:03] Camarade_Tux: Ah, then you're excused then. :P [12:03] it doesn't, it just "successes", but on the next boot, nothing ! [12:03] firebird619: haha yeah slow and steady ftw [12:03] lol, you got it. :) [12:03] I had the problem with my current computer too, but grub worked better (although it was painful too) [12:04] lf4, real men use lilo :P [12:04] lunarvalleys (n=lunarval@dyn3-82-128-185-123.psoas.suomi.net) joined ##slackware. [12:04] woot, new opera snapshot. [12:04] dios2: who said I was male? [12:04] including preview of new skin. :) [12:04] lf4 lol [12:04] who said lf4 was human? :P [12:05] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:05] lf4, do you dual boot, or have just linux? [12:05] dTd (n=dTd@206.53.76.241) joined ##slackware. [12:05] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:05] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) joined ##slackware. [12:05] lf4: with any luck, the cracked transmission housing is being welded, much cheaper than replacing the transmission [12:06] dios2: dual boot? I triple and quad boot lol [12:06] lf4 :P [12:06] <_arfon_> GL on that Urch. [12:06] haha firebird619 so true... thats what lf4 is... ;) [12:06] Nick change: lf4 -> LifeForce4 [12:06] haha [12:06] <_arfon_> If it's a cast iron one your screwed [12:06] I *just* had the transmission rebuilt in january, cost me $1300. If this repair is going to cost that much, I'm going to have to live without a car for the foreseeable future. [12:06] <_arfon_> If it Aluminum, you can save it [12:06] <_arfon_> Junkyard special is usually cheaper [12:06] _arfon_: it looks like aluminum to me, but I'm no metallurgist... [12:07] Urchlay: thats good it can be welded I thought you smashed it not just cracked. [12:07] <_arfon_> Prolly is Al [12:07] the guy who mentioned welding is an actual saturn mechanic for a living, so I assume he knows what he's talking about... [12:08] <_arfon_> If it's aluminum, you can [12:08] <_arfon_> It's gonna be a mess though, [12:08] Nick change: LifeForce4 -> lf4 [12:08] <_arfon_> You wil probably have to pull it and drain the oil from it or it will catch fire [12:09] <_arfon_> Welding gets stuff HOT [12:09] Urchlay: yeah thats good to know [12:09] _arfon_: haha yes welding does get stuff hot and aluminum welding is even hotter. [12:10] kr_eten (n=quick@opencode.dioextent.com) left irc: "Leaving" [12:10] <_arfon_> Ever see concrete pop into little divots when molten steel drips on it? [12:10] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl12-105-33.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:10] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.63.9) joined ##slackware. [12:10] <_arfon_> <--has divots in his driveway. :) [12:12] <-- has a busted-ass 1991 dodge d aytona in his driveway [12:13] <--- would rather not have to own a car at all [12:13] I suck at driving, I suck at car maintenance [12:13] Urchlay: hey, no good so far :( I tried huge-2.6.29.2 with no initrd, same thing: LILO 22.8 Loading Slackware.......... [12:13] I don't have to... actually since moving to Vancouver I haven't even insured the red dragon.. it just sits there. [12:13] <--- agrees with Urchlay I just spent 1/3 the cost of my car on tires haha [12:13] almost 2 years now of just sitting around doing nothing.. I need to touch up the rust, then maybe I'll put it back on the road.. [12:13] Urchlay: you know what women say about guys who 'suck at driving'? [12:14] antler: they make them look good? [12:14] haha [12:14] antler: I only know what women say by reading it on the internet, these days [12:15] hahah... they say guys who can't drive make bad lovers. [12:15] and there's the ever-present probability that the "women" are actually guys [12:15] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:15] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-174-17.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:15] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn251.91-127-46.t-com.sk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:16] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn239.91-127-66.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [12:16] antler: what about bad guy drivers. [12:16] compl3x: good question... [12:18] hrm, I was asked once if I was a wheelman... what does it say about me? [12:19] when i was in school many girls talked about the relationship between bad driving and sex [12:19] SuN (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: "MEH" [12:19] antler, but everything has changed since, you should follow the "mode" -_- [12:20] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:20] "guys who can't drive tend to be clumsy; they don't know the right buttons to push" [12:20] Camarade_Tux: quite possibly [12:20] Draenei (n=Draenei@unaffiliated/draenei) joined ##slackware. [12:20] but a girl talking to you while you're driving, errrgggg [12:20] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.19) joined ##slackware. [12:20] that's the biggest problem imho [12:21] everyone will be a girl one day. [12:21] it's the future. [12:21] hey antler, how's it going? [12:21] Just wait until the technology gets there. [12:21] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) joined ##slackware. [12:21] firebird619: hi :) just slowly waking up to greet yet another day. how are you? [12:21] anyone dualbooting windows and slack ? [12:21] macman_: i am [12:21] AzalynX, a teacher of mine told me how everybody at her husband's company only had girls and no boys, they were in radars :p [12:21] antler: doing great, thank you. :) [12:21] radars? [12:22] AzalynX: I'm looking forward to it.. I already have the breast implants. [12:22] antler ... dell is coming to replace my logic board so i had to do a reisntall of the xp oem cd .. i have all my drivers installed now .. do you know any software that can backup all my drivers for the next time ? [12:22] MtF? [12:22] AzalynX, http://www.codeproject.com/KB/grid/DrawingRadarDisplayWithCS/Radar1.jpg [12:23] Action: Camarade_Tux can testify eviljames's breast implants feel nice :) [12:23] I know what a radar is, jackass. :P [12:23] implants are expensive. i have have somewhat natural man boobs [12:23] macman_, driverpacks.net ! [12:23] I didn't understand it in that context. [12:23] My radar never looked like that. [12:23] Camarade_Tux what is that for ? [12:23] macman_: in windows? i've never done it that way. i just create an image of the partition [12:23] the point is they work with electromagnetics all day long [12:24] lf4 (n=KJR@pdpc/supporter/student/lf4) left irc: "doing a few things" [12:24] macman_, slipstreams (adds) the drivers to a windows CD, they install automatically :) [12:24] And that shrivelled their nuts to the point where they only had weak women, and not strong strapping youg lads? [12:24] :P [12:24] especially nice if you have RAID/SATA which regular windows doesn't recognize during install :) [12:24] Camarade_Tux slipstream takes forever [12:25] macman_, less than one minute for the driverpacks ;) [12:25] how can I make a fat partition already ? [12:25] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:25] Camarade_Tux format the parition to fat [12:25] go to mcdonalds [12:25] grab a big mac [12:25] and stuff it into your hard drive. [12:25] Camarade_Tux .. im looking on the website what should i be looking for [12:26] macman_, but which tool ? :p [12:26] macman_, http://driverpacks.net/DriverPacks/ [12:26] Camarade_Tux Gparted [12:26] I don't trust gparted ! [12:26] gparted own [12:26] owns* [12:26] unreliable imho [12:26] It doesn't trust YOU either. [12:26] :p [12:27] gparted / fdisk / cfdisk qtparted :P [12:27] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:27] fdisk works better (especially in weird/damaged/...) partitions [12:28] the ntfsprogs have a resize tool, iirc, that will even move stuff (similar to DEFRAG on windows) around so you can shrink partitions. [12:28] `swoolley (n=seth@202.85.152.248) joined ##slackware. [12:28] <`swoolley> WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USE [12:28] <`swoolley> RS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##POLITICS NOW!! WE NEED MORE USERS!!! JOIN ##P [12:28] `swoolley (n=seth@202.85.152.248) left irc: K-lined [12:28] mkdosfs :) [12:28] wtf [12:28] >< [12:28] mbohun (n=mbohun@60-240-239-21.static.tpgi.com.au) joined ##slackware. [12:28] hahahahahha [12:28] k-lined, nice. [12:29] yeah, that's how you promote your channel, always works so well [12:29] slackboy, should be tuned : it should more ban on the number of characters [12:29] I was just gonna go spam ##politics, too. [12:29] JOIN ##SPAMMERS NOW!! THEY NEED MORE SPAMMERS!! [12:29] delta(char)/delta(time_connected) too [12:29] tooly (n=tooly@e178168186.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:30] Camarade_Tux so im on the website .. does it show how to slipstream ? [12:30] Camarade_Tux: what about those of us who are fast typists, and get in a verbose kind of mood sometimes? [12:30] Urchlay, that spam was definitely too fast, do you type 200chars/s ? that's 12000chars/min ;p [12:30] Camarade_Tux do i download all those drivers then do a slipstream or what ? [12:30] what's 'k-lined' mean exactly? [12:31] macman_, then you launch the "BASE" and you'll be asked for the windows CD [12:31] it means a permanent ban [12:31] antler everytime they try to connect to freenode it says Software Aborted [12:31] lol [12:31] also, you need to put the (big) drivers in a DPs folder [12:31] the other trouble with that is network lag. sometimes people type a bunch of stuff at normal-ish speed, but slackboy sees it all at once [12:31] oh... lol [12:32] antler: IRC servers have configuration files, and a line that starts with a "k" is a server ban [12:32] antler, irc servers have a config file.. in that config file they have lines starting with some letters.. each have a definite meaning.. a line beginning with a K means (this guy is banned)... like --> K:*joe@*.domain.com [12:32] Camarade_Tux so make a DP folder .. download all files into there and then download that Driverpack base thing ? [12:32] gotchas.. :) [12:32] and K stands for "kill" [12:32] mmlj4: heh that's pretty interesting [12:33] I'm a /luser baby, so why don't you /kill me [12:33] macman_, http://forum.driverpacks.net/viewtopic.php?id=1449 [12:33] Camarade_Tux: it's also possible I ask a long, involved question, and get told "go ask in #someotherchannel"... so I join that channel and paste my question instead of retyping it [12:34] (talking about the question being a single long line of text, not a bunch of lines) [12:34] Urchlay, that would be more than impolite/rude [12:34] it pasted everything 0.1s after having joind [12:34] *joined [12:34] eh? suppose it's a question about KDE and I'm asking about it in #kde? [12:35] that helps [12:35] :P [12:35] (now bear in mind, when I say "I" here, I don't really mean me personally, I tend to join channels and idle a while to get an idea what's considered accepted use...) [12:35] person (n=ed@92.0.24.113) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [12:35] Urchlay, same [12:36] have to go, bbl :) [12:36] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: "MEH" [12:38] i are back :X [12:39] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [12:39] antler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRCd [12:40] ugh. I knew I shouldn't have given my email address to that girl... [12:40] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [12:41] now every time she uploads crap to her facebook or myspace, I get a completely useless email with 50 other addresses in the Cc: line [12:41] hey tecky [12:41] ilj (n=ilj@195.88.15.2) joined ##slackware. [12:41] (and all 50 of those other people, who have no idea who I am, now have my email address, and I'm sure I'll get mass-forwards from them too. Ugh) [12:42] Urchlay: lol. spam filters ftw!!. :P block her, but everyone else still has your email address now. [12:42] i dont wanna wanna hear about linear graphing any more! [12:42] well I have no real control over the spam filtering, this is gmail [12:42] Lexus1 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [12:43] Urchlay: your doomed. :P [12:43] canyouscore (n=canyousc@c-71-227-32-90.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:43] Urchlay: you getting those annoying spanish / alternative language e-mails coming through the spam filter? [12:43] what I wish, is that I believed in an afterlife, or reincarnation [12:43] lee555J5: interesting link. thanks :) [12:43] I'd off myself in a heartbeat to find out what comes next [12:43] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:43] haha [12:44] Urchlay: interesting, so what your trying to say is you wanna die so you can be reanimated into an alterior life form? [12:44] Lexus2 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) joined ##slackware. [12:44] tecky: no, I don't really want to die [12:44] Lexus2 (n=BastionH@62.165.60.236) left irc: Client Quit [12:44] you just would like to be ... 'reborn' ? [12:44] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:45] that was meant as a joke, really [12:45] Urchlay: well it came out poorly! [12:45] *shrug* [12:45] fail! [12:45] pri4pus (n=Mutinus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [12:45] you're not paying me to be a comedian, so no harm done [12:45] echo Hello, world! [12:45] All aboard the failboat, Urchlay's the captian! [12:45] echo hello pri4pus [12:45] you don't have to wish to believe in reincarnation. just believe it. [12:45] what the heck, my printer just took off cleaning itself. [12:45] firebird619: your terrible! [12:46] http://rhyme4reason.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/failboat.jpg [12:46] it's not even on. [12:46] AzalynX: i've seen better for 'failboat' [12:46] antler: eh, if I were capable of just deciding to believe in random things just because I want to, with no evidence at all... well I dunno what I'd be, but I wouldn't be me [12:46] tecky: thanks. :) [12:46] http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/30/failboat_arrival.jpg [12:46] is one [12:46] Urchlay: true, but the point is that no wishing is necessary. [12:47] maybe should have phrased it as "I wish reincarnation were real" then [12:47] as in, I know it isn't [12:47] http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/fail-boat-showingsailboat.jpg <=- lol [12:47] Urchlay: but then you would be presupposing that it is not real [12:47] tecky: I get the point already [12:47] i cant stop crying, i'm laughing so hard [12:48] Urchlay: i'm not making fun of you anymore, just mearly pointing out the failboat pictures [12:48] antler: well I do presuppose it isn't real (is possible I could be wrong, I can't think of a good experiment to test the reincarnation hypothesis...) [12:48] http://www.rotskyinstitute.com/rotsky/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/shipmentoffail.jpg [12:48] Urchlay: well, even at that, i wasn't trying to make fun of you, more-over just poke at your statement .... hopefully you didn't take what i said to heart [12:48] AzalynX: hahaha [12:49] AzalynX: thats, just bad [12:49] I presuppose unicorns, the Incredible Hulk, and honest politicians aren't real too... never seen any evidence for their existence [12:50] Urchlay: the Incredible Hulk is real ... i saw him dancing next to Elvis and Michael Jackson last night! [12:51] Urchlay: do you have any evidence against the claim: "as of 10:48AM MST, firebird619 is dead"? :P [12:51] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [12:51] ok doodz [12:51] antler: no, but I have no evidence for it, either [12:51] no usb or anything in xserver for me [12:51] jeev: what if there's a female here? she a 'dood' too? [12:52] tecky, then she should be sending me pics! [12:52] Urchlay: so what does that say about the claim? :P [12:52] sexist. :( [12:52] jeev: i'm thinking thats not the way to convince a girl to send you 'pics' [12:52] (eh, and, if firebird619 says anything after that time, that's evidence against the claim... though it could be someone else using his nick, or whatever) [12:52] see, this is why you all have to be turned into girls. [12:52] Urchlay: hahaha [12:53] maybe even nekomimi. [12:53] :> [12:53] antler: So, you finally got a tod for me? 10:48 AM. [12:53] that'd be 11:48 my time. :) [12:53] firebird619: STFU, corpse! [12:53] firebird619: you imposter! [12:53] hahaha [12:53] Nick change: firebird619 -> deadbird619 [12:53] hahah [12:53] Action: jeev shakes rworkman's monitor [12:54] c'mover here and make me, I'll disappear into a wall like magic. :) [12:54] zombie bird... [12:54] um, i don't make monkeys; i only train them? :P [12:54] orly? [12:55] just call yourself phoenix619 and be done with it :) [12:55] then there could be everlasting happiness. [12:55] Anyone know why in pidgin, when I change my nick, I don't see the new nick, but everyone else does? [12:55] cuddling would be the official international activity of choice. [12:55] http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/fail-owned-best-failboat-ever-fail.jpg [12:55] wow .... just wow [12:55] deadbird619: failboat could be responsible. [12:56] anyone know how to set msn mininames in pidgin? [12:56] hgahahahahahah [12:56] AzalynX: dont let the wife hear you say that... she' then ask me to 'cuddle' with her [12:56] AzalynX: yes, possibly. :P [12:56] compl3x: mininames? [12:57] compl3x: you mean ' alias's ' [12:57] like the bit under your name in msn [12:57] ? [12:57] mindbendr (n=neveraga@82.196.231.29) left irc: "leaving" [12:57] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-174-17.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "leaving" [12:57] tecky: I'll gladly take up the task. [12:58] With honor. [12:58] compl3x: Accounts --> manage accounts --> chose your msn account to edit, and then Local Alias. (I think that's what you mean) [12:58] anshulk (n=chatzill@123.237.2.61) joined ##slackware. [12:58] I'll perform my duty, and defend the constitution TO THE DEATH while doing it. [12:58] Even though I'm Canadian, and we don't have a constitution, but a charter. [12:59] haha [12:59] kama (n=kama@host49-36-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [12:59] Nick change: deadbird619 -> firebird619 [12:59] damn i was just going to change my nick to firebird619 [12:59] Yes sir, you go watch football and drink beer, and any other pseudo-manly things. [12:59] I'll take care of cuddling duties. [13:00] With RIGHTEOUS FIRE IN MY HEART. [13:00] pft cuddling [13:00] antler: haha [13:00] Burning with FREEDOM. [13:00] antler: too late. :) [13:00] real men smoke after, not cuddle [13:00] AzalynX: you're going to cuddle our charter... with .. what? [13:00] with fire? [13:00] Camarade_Tux .. hey .. its slipstreaming atm .. Camarade_Tux does it create an iso ? [13:00] antler: s/smoke/smoke crack/ [13:01] hahaha [13:01] eviljames: then good luck with round 2 [13:01] macman_: I think Camarade_Tux left about a half hour ago... [13:01] hmm [13:01] antler: Same goes with cigarettes.. they inhibit blood flow. [13:01] Hi [13:01] damnit, anyone built X before? [13:01] jeev: Yes. [13:02] jeev: And it even worked afterwards! :P [13:02] eviljames, it works! no keyboard or mouse1! [13:02] did you rebuild yoru input drivers ? [13:02] dwnwtmac (n=thybridd@rrcs-24-73-182-229.se.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:02] im looking for them right now. [13:02] xinput ? [13:02] no [13:02] hi room [13:02] I am running slack32 current... I have the stock pygtk installed... yet awn configure scripts cannot find the python module mozembed [13:03] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:03] eviljames: with boobs. [13:03] are you sure you're qualified to be doing this? :) [13:03] yes thrice` [13:03] press them against that charter real good. [13:03] srry python module gtkmozembed [13:03] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:03] and then it'll be like "!" [13:03] jeev: what did you rebuild, specifically ? [13:03] how about all that stuff inside the app folder, obviously everything needs to be compiled, right [13:03] libs and all that stuff ;) [13:03] AzalynX: Ah, that is actually encouraged. [13:03] no, not right [13:03] AzalynX: I'm pretty sure it's in section 12. [13:04] AzalynX: That is, after section 12 has been amended to remove all that 'cruel and unusual punishment' hooey. [13:04] Shouldn't the stock pygtk have python module gtkmozembed [13:04] jeev: it depends. if you're on x-server 1.5.x+, and enabled hotplugging, you'll need xf86-input-evdev for mouse/keybaord. otherwise, be sure xf86-input-keyboard and xf86-input-mouse are rebuilt. of course, your video driver too [13:05] We probably should also remove the notwithstanding clause. [13:05] so quebec can stop being jerks. [13:05] $ grep moz /var/adm/packages/pygtk-2.14.1-x86_64-1 || echo "nope" [13:05] nope [13:05] i can't really inputproto >= 1.5, it keeps complaining [13:05] i cnat find it [13:05] ok, when asked if you're qualified to build xorg, and you said yes, the correct answer was "no" [13:05] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.118) joined ##slackware. [13:05] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [13:05] i'm as qualified as you ;) i just haven't done anhything this dumb in years. [13:06] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: "MEH" [13:06] please don't equate me to yourself ;) [13:06] thrice`, this is no time for dick measuring [13:06] this is slackware, turn off your ego [13:06] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:06] AzalynX: bah, I support quebec. I'd remove it so that Alberta can stop being jerks. My home province can be painful to visit :/ [13:06] Hey, which search engine do you prefer? [13:06] surely you can check a damn mirror then [13:06] http://ftp.x.org/pub/individual/proto/ [13:06] "this is slackware, turn off your ego" <---- what does that even mean? [13:06] i've checked multiple. [13:07] inputproto is clearly in there [13:07] just cause you've compiled X doesn't mean you're smarter than me. [13:07] http://ftp.x.org/pub/individual/proto/inputproto-1.5.0.tar.bz2 [13:07] i have that [13:07] they were asking for 1.99 or higher. [13:07] i can't really inputproto >= 1.5, [13:07] "I accidentally the computer" [13:07] yea, some said 1.5 but i oculdn've find 1.99! [13:07] i'll ask my question again. what are you trying to compile [13:08] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:08] man i'm on my laptop, i hate laptops, i'll let you know when im having issues compiling [13:08] "everything" is not the right answer [13:08] i'm working on drivers right now. [13:08] eviljames: I'm in quebec. I don't support them. :| [13:08] I mean why not let the free market decide the language issue. [13:08] why legislate. [13:08] because the free market is stupid and easily manipulated. [13:08] again, "drivers" is bad. which driver specifically, and which version ? [13:08] why waste tax dollars on a 'language police' ? [13:08] EuroTrash (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:08] Quebec, and les quebecois, deserve the right not to have language standards imposed upon them by the federal government. [13:09] i'm talking about eliminating language standards [13:09] they're the ones imposing language standards [13:09] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [13:09] if i want to open a store, i have to abide by their 'regulations' [13:09] Good. Don't like it? Move to Alberta. Nobody speaks french there. [13:09] thrice`, everything from git. the ones you mentioned, evdev,keyboard,mouse. [13:10] it's not about not speaking french. [13:10] And they all have free market boners, no matter how detrimental it is to the province. [13:10] it's about letting me speak what i want. [13:10] jeev: er, that's probably why. what makes you feel the released versions are in-adequate ? [13:10] I'm a liberal. But the language thing should not be solves legislatively. [13:10] solved** [13:11] If it wasn't solved in this way legislatively, there wouldn't be French in Canada. [13:11] thrice`, trying intel drivers ;) [13:11] intel 2.7.1 will work fine on inputproto 1.5 [13:11] then that would mean that quebecers don't really care about their language. [13:11] An Alberta-based reform/conservative (whatever) would simply legislatte that English is the official language of Canada, quebec be damned. [13:11] if they care, then they will shop at stores that have french. [13:11] stick to released versions of evdev,mouse, and keyboard. there is no advantage to anything -git currently [13:11] i'll do that thrice` if i cant get this working [13:11] and won't force people. [13:12] is it an issue that i cant build xf86-video-intel ? [13:12] missing dri2 header [13:12] I have a question... how come I cant install gnome strait from the site like other distros? [13:12] but when i put it in there, it craps out [13:12] eviljames: that's a slippery slope argument. [13:12] jeev: Isn't that the whole reason you're upgrading xorg, to have the intel driver? I'd be concerned if that won't build. [13:12] jeev: sure :) you'll need to update protos, libdrm, mesa, then x-server before xf86-video-intel can update to anything about 2.4.x [13:12] mib_p4kxnz (i=d47b5bde@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cad189694688c382) joined ##slackware. [13:12] AzalynX: All things in moderation, but I think that the French in Quebec is something worthy of being preserved, even if it has to be written into law that it is done so. [13:13] hi all [13:13] did you miss libdrm, I'm guessing ? [13:13] quebec is basically doing the reverse. it's no more fair then anyone legislating english as the official language [13:13] if you think one is unfair [13:13] no i got drm and all tat stuff [13:13] even mesa. [13:13] AzalynX: It's a huge part of Canadian culture, both modern and historically. [13:13] is possible disabling device renaming in slackware 12.2 [13:13] ???????' [13:13] then you have to accept that the other is unfair too. [13:13] eviljames, this is the intel video from git, not fron intel's site. [13:13] mib_p4kxnz: via udev it is. [13:13] eviljames: i've disabled udev [13:13] I'd consider that a misteake. [13:13] s/misteake/mistake/ [13:13] i'll bet you're still using udev, too ;) [13:14] macman_ (n=macman_@unaffiliated/macman-/x-7349243) left irc: [13:14] yes but i support co-existence. i support having both languages. [13:14] k... [13:14] eviljames: how can i do it? [13:14] i don't want either one to be forced. [13:14] mib_p4kxnz: man udev [13:14] AzalynX: I'm of the belief that all Canadians should be fluent in French and English. It should be mandated in every school. [13:15] eviljames: without udev and with nohotplug kernel parameter it not disable this features? [13:15] Its been a long day and I am tired... Can anyone help me find what will I have to install to get http://www.pygtk.org/pygtkmozembed/ [13:15] eviljames: ok, that's not contrary to what i said though. [13:15] kama (n=kama@host49-36-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:15] AzalynX: It is though. I want both to be forced. [13:15] eviljames: another question, is possible configuring mdadm to auto-resync disks after fault? [13:16] mib_p4kxnz: Dunno, I don't use mdadm. [13:16] if you're afraid of french culture disappearing, the solution isn't to discriminate against one group to serve the other. you have to remove the problem at the source. [13:16] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@200.140.247.98) left irc: [13:16] AzalynX: So, let Alberta secede from Canada? [13:16] remove any federal pressure to make canada 'english', which personally i don't think there's pressure like that. [13:17] eviljames: and isn't possible disabling device hotplug renaming removing udev? [13:17] especially since the bloc protects the french aspect at the federal level. [13:17] mib_p4kxnz: udev (afaik) is the main way that /dev is populated in a modern linux distro. Unless you are absolutely certain of how to populate it yourself keep udev. [13:17] Which irc client for shell is the best one? [13:17] pri4pus: irssi [13:17] :) Thank you! [13:17] eviljames: I don't like the idea of anyone seceding. Although in a few generations I think maybe they'll be liberal too. It's just a waiting game. [13:18] udev is pretty tough to pull out these days [13:18] pri4pus_ (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [13:18] removing the package will likely cause your system to no longer boot [13:18] pri4pus (n=Mutinus@87.248.164.65) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:19] AzalynX: One can hope, but I'm not that optimistic. I lived there for 20 years. They vote Conservative to the tune of 90+% majority governments. [13:19] AzalynX: The opposition parties in Alberta hold a combined 3-5 seats in the Leg. [13:19] heh [13:19] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) joined ##slackware. [13:19] and they're currently pushing for the "right" to pull their kids of out classrooms where evolution or geology are taught. [13:20] Can't have anything in school that contradicts their precious bible... [13:20] And they'll get it, too. 90+% majority government. [13:21] mib_p4kxnz: What is the end goal, dare I ask? [13:21] heh [13:21] i wonder what the alberta youth is though. [13:21] statistically. [13:22] i mean with all this modern culture.. they can't possibly be 90% like the previous generation. [13:22] They are. [13:22] (I'm 26) [13:22] eviljames: no worries, people with other ideologies will outbreed them [13:22] even in the USA stats show that youth are overwealmingly more liberal than their parents. [13:22] pi31415: They won't. [13:22] AzalynX: take, for example, the progress on gay culture. In alberta, the gay bars are still underground for fear of lynchings. Which still happen regularly. [13:23] heh [13:23] I was unaware of the fundamentalist Christian population explosion [13:23] There is 1 openly gay bar in Edmonton, and it's 2 blocks from a police station. [13:23] that shit has to violate some federal statutes though [13:23] or whatever [13:23] Nick change: pri4pus_ -> pri4pus [13:23] there are federal components to education. [13:24] SM177Y (n=sm177y@24-231-128-51.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [13:24] so doesn't seem like they could do something as drastic as fuck with evolution being taught. [13:25] we're all going to hell in a hand basket OMG the sky is falling [13:25] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta#Religion [13:25] "Alberta had the second highest percentage of non-religious residents in Canada (after British Columbia) at 23.1% of the population." [13:26] :| [13:26] so what? [13:26] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [13:26] antiwire: seems like there's some hope. [13:26] The stereotype is that the population growth comes from the Catholic and Muslim camps [13:26] if that statement is to be taken seriously. [13:27] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.19) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:28] thrice`, you there [13:31] frankS2 (i=nobody@algorit.me) joined ##slackware. [13:31] my hell in the hand basket statement? of course i'm not serious, people have been saying that crap for thousands of years [13:31] AzalynX: google Bill 44 [13:31] pim_ (n=jae@ip54506326.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) joined ##slackware. [13:31] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [13:32] AzalynX: http://www.edmontonjournal.com/Life/Bill+evolutionary+dead/1564046/story.html here, that should get you started on what Alberta is like on the inside :P [13:32] AzalynX: There have been people on the news saying "well, I don't believe in evolution so I don't want that taught to my kids" [13:32] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:33] AzalynX: sorry, that article isn't quite what I was looking for upon reading it all the way through [13:33] Oh, and teaching children that it's ok to be homosexual is a reason parents can pull their kids from class AND file a human rights complaint. [13:34] antiwire: heh, detailed analysis of Canadian politics probably bores everyone else to tears. Sarcasm is welcome :P [13:34] dwnwtmac (n=thybridd@rrcs-24-73-182-229.se.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:35] firebird619, deer out on the porch this morning [13:35] hm, it's a little weird. [13:35] since the bill adds gay rights. [13:35] nix_chix0r: cool. [13:35] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn239.91-127-66.t-com.sk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:36] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn113.91-127-202.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [13:36] why do people keep messing with gays [13:36] I've had deer run across the boulevard across the street before. [13:36] i swear [13:36] shoulda pulled out the 12g [13:36] i just learned interracial marriage was legalized in 1991 [13:36] wtf????????? leae people laone [13:36] leave [13:36] nix_chix0r: haha. just one? [13:36] AzalynX: Totally weird. [13:37] that deer was big enough to feed 4 for a year probally [13:37] "Still, a small yet influential group of social conservatives in the caucus were horrified at the prospect of people with a "homosexual agenda" teaching kids that homosexuality was OK." [13:37] small, yet influential. [13:37] 12g not good enough for deer, unless they are small [13:37] Maybe in another few generations they'll be small and uninfluential. [13:37] i knew if i got the rifle it would have been gone by the time i opened the porch door [13:37] mib_p4kxnz (i=d47b5bde@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cad189694688c382) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [13:37] need to put more food on the deer stand [13:38] Help! [13:38] they really like the pink lady apples [13:38] nix_chix0r: at least it didn't come through the porch door. :P [13:38] /usr/lib/seamonkey/libnss3.so: version `NSS_3.12' not found (required by /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.7/lib/libxul.so) [13:38] eviljames: 25 minutes and counting, osol is still at the progress bar. :P [13:38] lol [13:38] seamonkey and moz are both slack current stock [13:38] (pink(lady apples)) or (pink lady (apples)) [13:38] How do I fix this? [13:38] damn, nix_chix0r, you need to be able to get to the rifle faster [13:38] :) [13:39] heh, seems like there's some confusion over the evolution thing. [13:39] Kinda like pink ladies [13:39] i know mayne [13:39] since they mention sex, sexual orientation, and religion in the bill. [13:39] or brownish [13:39] the apples [13:39] but not evolution or anything relating to it. seems like it was a clusterfuck. [13:39] yeah they like em because they are kinda tart [13:39] idiotic [13:39] (anti evolution) [13:40] Anyone got any ideas? [13:40] AzalynX: I have no tolerance for parents who want to deny their children education [13:40] about wot [13:40] neither do i. [13:40] anshulk: grep xulrunner- /var/log/packages/* [13:40] /usr/lib/seamonkey/libnss3.so: version `NSS_3.12' not found (required by /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.7/lib/libxul.so) [13:40] seamonkey and moz are both slack current stock [13:40] How do I fix this? [13:40] anshulk: Stop spamming the channel, patience is required. [13:40] eviljames: sorry [13:40] anshulk: Figure out which package needs replacing, then replace it. [13:40] bye [13:40] but if this bill passes, we could still have a shot at amending it later to remove those portions. [13:41] steppenwolfii (n=greymaus@86-46-235-43-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:41] sad, i cant even boot a new kernel i build. sda. [13:41] sad. [13:41] nix_chix0r: I think you should just go out and try to wrestle the deer :P [13:41] AzalynX: The bill will pass, easily. There is no opposition, Alberta is a de facto one party state. [13:41] anshulk: Which package provides the file you are needing there? [13:41] lul, can you even imagine me trying to wrestle a deer that would just end in failure it'd probally maul me or something [13:41] anshulk: grep libxul.so /var/log/packages/* [13:42] nix_chix0r: it'd smash you with antlers once, you'd fall down, it'd run away. :P [13:42] anshulk: /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.0.7/lib/libxul.so is not even part of Slackware [13:42] Why do you come ask here? [13:42] http://www.edmontonjournal.com/travel/Alberta+education+groups+unite+oppose+Bill/1570093/story.html [13:42] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left ##slackware. [13:42] there is opposition though [13:42] ahah [13:42] at least there's controversy over it, which is a good sign.. there's debate over it. [13:42] even if the chance is high that it'll pass.. :\ [13:43] alienBOB: thanks... I thought it was part of firefox... turns out I installed it... [13:43] it's a good sign that at least people are pissed over it [13:43] Thanks everyone for the help :) [13:43] AzalynX: If there was no debate, things would be even worse. it would have passed without anyone even knowing. Now it's going to pass despite everyone knowing. [13:43] heh [13:43] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [13:43] http://fukung.net/v/14922/maskremoval.jpg [13:43] blah I can't find the Slackware install dvd [13:43] I just had it a minute ago.. [13:44] pim_: find . -name *.iso :P [13:44] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@61.17.227.71) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:44] agentc0re|work, now i want to wrestle a deer [13:44] sorry, my room doesn't support that syntax eviljames [13:44] hahahahahahhahahaha [13:45] lol this is annoying [13:45] pim_: best possible response :P [13:46] Samy1 (i=samyw@92.85.208.73) joined ##slackware. [13:46] nix_chix0r: You totally should. Get on one of those mexican wrestling outfits too and video tape it. [13:46] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:46] nix_chix0r: Next internet one hit wonder. Just be sure to be a youtube partner by that time. [13:46] Samy1 (i=samyw@92.85.208.73) left irc: Client Quit [13:46] haha [13:47] wee [13:47] Samy1 (i=Argus18@92.85.208.73) joined ##slackware. [13:47] nix_chix0r wrestling a deer has got to be more entertaining than that "boxee" person.. [13:47] how to start slackware in gui mode? [13:48] i'm going a do it [13:48] Samy1: change inittab so that the default runlevel is 4. [13:48] now does it count if i kinda slip the deer a mild sedative like an apple with weed in it or something? so i have a better advantage [13:48] nix_chix0r: slip 2 deers apples full of crystal meth and have them fight each other. [13:48] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:48] lol [13:49] hahahah [13:49] sad thing is i could drive ten minutes and probally find that no problem>.< [13:49] bambi on crank! [13:49] eviljames, yep, I had left ;) [13:49] thrice`, you there [13:49] 10 minutes to find apples full of meth? [13:49] Crazy! [13:50] http://www.calgaryherald.com/Alberta+leader+nearly+booted+from+Legislature+floor/1634418/story.html [13:50] heh [13:50] i'm on X but i get errors for drm i915's in dmesg [13:50] that's crazy [13:50] eviljames~ [13:50] AzalynX: Stelmach? [13:50] i'm on the latest xserver.. any suggestions [13:50] i didn't even know about the "unparliamentory language" thing to be honest. [13:50] ok I'm just burning the iso again [13:50] I mean if someone is lying, you can't call them a liar? :| [13:50] jeev: Not much, I haven't built xorg in at least a year or 18 months.. [13:50] :< [13:50] Oh the NDP leader. [13:51] How to change inittab? [13:51] there's a political party in canada called "NDP"? [13:51] Samy1: vi [13:51] Urchlay: New Democrat Party [13:52] Urchlay: hardline lefties. I'd like 'em if they weren't so over the top. [13:52] thanks man [13:52] eviljames: wonder if they've ever read any history books... "NSDP" was the abbreviation for the german nazi party in the 1930s... [13:52] eviljames, lefties, you mean like our righties ? :p [13:52] they're only one letter away... [13:52] AzalynX: It's a VERY strong accusation, to call a sitting Premier a liar. [13:52] Samy1 (i=Argus18@92.85.208.73) left irc: [13:53] NSDAP, wasn't it? [13:53] rob0++ [13:53] oh, right. Two letters away [13:53] our shared server at work has music people throw on. and i copied it to take home and theres all this christian music and christmas tunes ahahahha [13:53] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-40-159-71.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:53] AzalynX: Should it be true, it would essentially mean the government is corrupt from the top down. Everyone is guilty if the leader is guilty. [13:53] National Socialist German Worker's Party [13:53] ewww nix_chix0r [13:53] eviljames: sounds about right to me. [13:53] yeah failure [13:53] Urchlay that is NSDAP [13:54] AzalynX: Me too. And considering the amount of lies the Alberta Conservatives tell, Mason is being nothing but honest. [13:54] i mean he's accusing the guy of wanting to shut down the oil sands, when the guy has been vocally in support of that stuff. [13:54] hence, lie. [13:54] nix_chix0r: you should replace the christian music with a bunch of death metal [13:54] in Lebanon, they, they... they have regular christmas songs, rap christmas songs, techno christmas songs, tektonik christmas songs... ='( [13:54] I've been shocked [13:54] eviljames: maybe we need a wiki [13:54] AzalynX: Doesn't help that his party has 2 seats. [13:54] to document the lies [13:54] rofl i did put john 5 on there [13:54] :) [13:54] Necos: apparently "christian death metal" actually exists [13:54] >.>\ [13:54] nix_chix0r: If you follow Necos' suggestion, I can provide a LOT of Satanic death metal. [13:54] are you serious? [13:55] yeah it exists [13:55] Yeah, and some of it is even good! [13:55] yeah, only they call it "life metal" or something silly like that [13:55] Become the Archetype for example. [13:55] wtf? life metal?! I thought they all just called it xtian Death? [13:55] LOL [13:55] rofl i did put john 5 on there [13:55] if it's proper death metal, it doesn't matter, you can't understand the words anyway :) [13:55] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [13:55] nix_chix0r: Next time, Deicide. [13:55] I have a video of some monk listening to metal, and playing in a metal band :) [13:56] nix_chix0r: put the song "Slave to the Cross" on it. [13:57] can imagine if I spent 20 years being a monk, I'd be completely fed up with it, full of anger [13:57] eviljames how about Hommage for Satan? [13:57] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:57] or Serpents of the Light, or Scars of the Crucifix [13:57] pim_: good call! [13:57] Urchlay, he was pretty calm actually [13:57] naw [13:58] Does any one hav idea of release date of SW 13 ! :) [13:58] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl12-105-33.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [13:58] no [13:58] :) [13:58] init[1]: "When it's ready" (tm) [13:58] eviljames: :) good joke ... [13:58] I tnk we can expect it by July [13:58] AzalynX: I have actually been in the process of setting up a political blag to follow this sort of shit. [13:59] init[1]: how long is a piece of string? [13:59] blag? [13:59] AzalynX: I'm _tired_ of having elected officials be unaccountable, especially when they lie directly to the public (repeatedly, in the case of our Federal gov't). [13:59] thought that meant "robbery" in brit slang? [13:59] Urchlay: which string ? [13:59] Urchlay: I just find it hard to use the word "blog" [13:59] (though, if it's about politics, that might be appropriate) [13:59] how do I use fdisk and cfdisk to shrink a current windows partition? [13:59] Urchlay: but what else would a site like this be... a wiki, a resource? nah, daily postings... a blag. [14:00] and mostly because it's all blah blah blah blag blah blag... :P [14:00] short for "web lag"? [14:00] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [14:00] meow~~ [14:00] Urchlay: do mind telling the string thing ? :) [14:01] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [14:01] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.147.127) joined ##slackware. [14:01] init[1]: it's a way of answering your question with a question... "how long is a string" is unanswerable [14:01] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.147.127) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:01] "how long before slackware 13 is released" is also unanswerable at this point [14:02] asarch (n=asarch@189.188.147.127) joined ##slackware. [14:02] although a string on slackware 12.2 is at most 16MB >< [14:02] pim_: you don't. google for "ntfs resize" or "partition resize". [14:02] Camarade_Tux: really? [14:02] pim_: look into the ntfs-3g suite of tools [14:02] raela|alt (n=raela@206.21.75.118) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [14:02] Urchlay: i didn't ask how long , i asked releaze date :P [14:02] how come? [14:03] nooper, well, that's a limitation on 32bit [14:03] Urchlay: got you're point [14:04] anyone's got any experience using fdisk or cfdisk to shrink a partition? [14:04] hm? Camarade_Tux, you mean a string in what language? [14:04] eviljames I've just booted the cd [14:04] Urchlay, C for instance :) ("string" usually implies programming for me, rather than string/rope) [14:05] pim_: the SLackware installer has parted if you need to work on existing partitions [14:05] dyn0myt3 (n=dyn0myt3@adsl-75-40-159-71.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:05] so I can just do setup? [14:06] no [14:06] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:06] parted is not integrated with the setup program, per se. You'd need to do the partitions prior to running setup. [14:06] pim_: u can make use of parted [14:06] uh, i dont know how i'm getting "No filesystem could mount root, tried: romfs" after oldconfig and whatnot to 2.6.29.4 ... i have ext3 in config and it's built, what could i be doing wrong? it's not mounting. [14:06] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) joined ##slackware. [14:08] error_de1eloper_ (n=errordev@78.86.1.110) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:08] jeev: The kernel looks not to have ext3 support. Is there an initrd that you might have needed to make? [14:08] jeev: i tnk u must compile you ext3 built in , i mean not as a module !! [14:08] i just made a 32mb long string in C. strlen returns 33554432 [14:08] nooper: hahaha just to prove it can be done? [14:08] only journaling was a module, i've changed that now. [14:08] eviljames, i've never dealt with an initrd.. [14:09] jeev: me neither, I use the huge kernels or a custom one.. [14:09] why would i need one of i'm using the original config + things have changed, you know [14:09] eviljames: yeah, it just seemed silly [14:09] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@168-215-208-8.static.twtelecom.net) joined ##slackware. [14:09] yea i dont mind using huge. [14:09] jeev: But that it didn't try ext2/3 indicates that ext3 was not builtin, or that lilo hadn't been updated or something along those liens. [14:09] s/liens/lines/ [14:09] giving it another shot. [14:10] only ext3 journaling was built as a mod. i'm trying something else here [14:10] Jeev: paste bin you config [14:10] my desk is a mess. init[1], i will in a moment. [14:10] anyway, i've gotten intel 2.7.0 to load, im thinking maybe it cna't detect my resolutions befcause im still on the default 12.2 kernel [14:11] jeev: i can't understand you actual issue :) [14:11] *your [14:11] init[1]: zimbra? [14:11] init[1]:jeev is rebuilding xorg to take advantage of the newer intel drivers. I approve of this act :D [14:12] zimbra is new ajax mail solution !! [14:12] :P [14:12] yeah, xorg-server 1.7 pushed back ! \o/ http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzI4OQ [14:12] :> [14:12] Camarade_Tux: ORLY? [14:12] i rebuilt xorg pretty much.. all is well, xorgsetup points to the old one. [14:12] eviljames, should i just cp the huge config from boot into the 2.6.29.4 dir and make oldconfig? [14:13] Camarade_Tux: MPX is coming! This is huge! [14:13] YARLY ! [14:13] eviljames, yep :) [14:13] but it should have been in 1.5 ;p [14:13] jeev: I'd make menuconfig and see what options to change there.. I'm pretty thorough about that. [14:13] but yes, copy the old config [14:13] Oh that's fabulous no support for ntfs :-S [14:14] Camarade_Tux: Agreed, but it would be nice if it worked before it ships :P [14:14] a lot of options to change, dont feel like reading ;D [14:14] jeev: That will be your dodwnfall [14:14] s/dodwnfall/downfall/ [14:14] WAW, after changing my applications with GUI on those with testual interface I get 500MB RAM free, if not even more. [14:14] :> [14:14] pim_: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=ntfs+3g [14:15] pri4pus: ... so, what you're saying is that your gui took up 500 MB of ram? [14:15] MPX should be really fune to play with ;p [14:15] ok, grub-install has been running for five minutes now, I guess something is broken [14:15] testual interface? [14:15] like, experimental interface that you're testing? [14:15] eviljames so I can't use the Slackware install dvd to format my harddrive when it's an ntfs disk? [14:15] or a new kind of keyboard you use with your testicles instead of your fingers? [14:15] eviljames: No, just some applications. If I will quit KDE I will get even more. [14:16] More free RAM. [14:16] pim_, why would you want ? if you need it for windows, just let windows do it [14:16] farabi (n=farabi@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) joined ##slackware. [14:16] pim_: I thoguht you were looking to resize your ntfs partition, not blow it away. [14:16] eviljames indeed [14:17] pim_: resizing would be handled via ntfsprogs, or parted (which uses ntfsprogs). erasing it altogether can be done with cfdisk [14:17] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.26.162) joined ##slackware. [14:17] i guess it's booting now [14:17] but resizing with cfdisk can lead to instability on the windows side, because cfdisk won't shuffle things around on disk. [14:17] jeev: :) [14:17] eviljames but do I need external software for resizing my windows partition? [14:17] failed to insert hid dummy but it's ok [14:18] that new penguin is nasty [14:18] someone find linus and slap him [14:18] jeev: tuz? [14:18] Its not a penguin [14:18] jeev: The tasmanian devil is going extinct, raise awareness! [14:18] whatever [14:18] YAY [14:18] works! [14:19] pim_: ... man, have you been reading what I wrote? [14:19] got the resolution, sexy [14:19] eviljames Yes, I don't think I get it though [14:20] ganeshix (n=ele@rrcs-24-103-182-199.nys.biz.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [14:20] oh [14:20] pim_: are you shrinking actual windows system partition or others ? [14:20] eviljames, got it [14:20] jeev: !! intel-2.7.0 works? [14:20] where is thrice`, lets slap him around [14:20] yea [14:20] Kudos dude! [14:20] thanks, finally [14:20] jeev: Did you document the steps you took? [14:20] jeev: blog it [14:20] pim_: k, http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php <- look for ntfsprogs [14:20] I have a system with a 40 gb windows disk, i started the slackware dvd and I want to resize the windows partition but parted complains it can't resize ntfs [14:21] pim_: These (iirc) are on the dvd, but I'd have to go look. [14:21] no i didntdidnt document it [14:21] but i could do it again [14:21] jesus christ RDP is lagging [14:21] pim_: there's a program called ntfsresize, http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsresize [14:21] pim_: I haven't actually /done/ this myself so it's about as far as I can hold your hand with it... but it should be all you need. [14:22] well, the whole reason why i wanted it was for RDP [14:22] jeev: What all did you update? xorg-server, mesa, drm.. ? [14:22] every time i press enter, it takes a second to update it. any suggestions? [14:22] eviljames, upgrade to latest kernel, 2.6.29.4, git the latest X, install evdev, mouse,keyboard, some lib's.. which i'll write down, xserver [14:22] ah, cool. [14:23] it's a half ass install anyway. [14:23] As for the redraw, iirc that's part of the issues Keith Packard mentions on his blog. [14:23] jeev: http://keithp.com/blogs/Sharpening_the_Intel_Driver_Focus/ [14:23] ahh, so krdc is the best? [14:23] back to my laptop ;/ [14:24] oh, thought you meant krdc lagging = redraw [14:24] fun times. Good Job jeev, document the steps and we'll do something with it :P [14:24] i should, maybe i can do it later today [14:24] format the system and do it all over [14:24] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-106-166.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:26] did you make slackbuilds? [14:26] or use the ones that were provided in the sources? [14:26] dnuno what slackbuilds is ;D [14:26] It's the primary build system to convert source -> binary packages [14:26] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.37) joined ##slackware. [14:26] at least, for Slackware... hence SlackBuild :P [14:26] no i just built it hehe [14:27] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:27] cryptically anmed ;) [14:27] d'oh, named* [14:27] thrice`: haha quite. He did succeed though! [14:27] ha thrice` [14:27] jeev: it wld be difficult to manage !! [14:27] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.118) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:27] i mean the packages [14:28] jeev: If you document the steps, I'll help create some SlackBuilds and we can host it on my github account so others can reproduce your success! [14:28] ok eviljames [14:28] s/create/modify the stock ones/ as need be.. [14:28] i'll just format it in a second [14:28] wow !! [14:28] hey btw hws kde 4.2.3 on slackware current !! [14:29] Do the Intel drivers from xorg run Google Earth? [14:29] It's great!@ [14:29] i hvn't tired it htou [14:29] (I'm a huge fan of kde4, though) [14:29] thou [14:29] eviljames: :) [14:29] eh i'll format it later lol [14:29] any other suggestions other than krdc? [14:29] eviljames: :| how could you [14:29] jeev: haha, take your time. tightvnc might help. [14:29] eviljames: but its bit heavy i hrd [14:30] downloading google earth [14:30] i havn't used it .. but kde 4.x series is good i hrd [14:30] Action: compl3x hates kde4 [14:30] i really wanted a good RDP but i dont expect it in linux. [14:30] compl3x: softwares keep on changing ,one day u may even like most hated one !! [14:30] what? use rdesktop =p [14:30] i'll try that now [14:30] compl3x: how could I... love kde4? Because it's a major step forward for desktop environments. [14:31] rdesktop always worked for me, but I only ever used it with a win2k server [14:31] compl3x: Everybody is cloning their featureset, all desktops will end up looking like kde4.\ [14:31] antiwire, works. what should i do [14:31] eviljames: Fair enough - I don't know who copied who - but I just don't like the similaritys towards windows [14:31] jeev: i was just curious [14:31] eviljames: wht ab memory usage ? [14:31] there is some lag [14:31] compl3x: they all copied experimental stuff from Xerox PARC :) [14:31] Win seems to have copied as much as possible from kde4 [14:31] i dont really use google earth [14:31] Urchlay: ah right [14:32] jeev: but it does run and is usable ? [14:32] init[1]: *shurg* dunno, I don't pay that close of attention.. but I never swap so I think its fine :P [14:32] init[1]: all my systems have 2+gb of ram, though. [14:32] seems like it, there are long lego style blocks everywhere, i dnuno what's causing it [14:32] like 4 or 5+ square boxes [14:32] so it's not working.... [14:32] all over the screen [14:32] lol [14:32] s/working/working perfect/ :P [14:33] eviljames: im runing on 768mb !! just curious , xfce is my personal fav [14:33] and the damn earth is totating [14:33] ! [14:33] you sure you're not running "google earth: lego(tm) edition"? [14:33] haha [14:33] so i guess the drivers still need some baking [14:33] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@87.248.164.65) joined ##slackware. [14:33] init[1]: For that amount of ram I'd expect kde4 to be useable, but not optimal. xfce would be great in that condition! [14:34] :)) [14:34] want a screen shot "/ [14:34] jeev: put it up [14:34] I have 4gb of ram yet I like fluxbox - just for the minimalism - performance doesn't bother me. I like things simple - with plent of screen space. [14:35] eviljames: but i hrd kde-4.x is optimized for ranm [14:35] jeev: yeah please [14:35] compl3x: i dont like the WM of flux !! when ever i try using other WM it switches !! [14:35] i mean within flux [14:36] these sounds the OS makes is annoying [14:36] jeev: we r waiting .. [14:36] http://i40.tinypic.com/1z3mlbt.png [14:36] init[1]: funny enough - the one machine I want to properly give kde4 a shot on ( my laptop ) fails when kde loads up the desktop :p locks the hole machine up :p [14:36] hmm [14:36] interesting [14:37] jeev the crux theme !! huh [14:37] nvision (n=nvision@g230013107.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:37] any ideas? [14:37] got a zoomed in one ocming in [14:37] Camarade_Tux_ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:37] http://i43.tinypic.com/2cz7pn4.png [14:38] root__ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:38] compl3x: ?? [14:38] root__ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [14:38] root__ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:38] that's with antistropic all the way up [14:38] root__ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Client Quit [14:38] jeev: u hav good bandwidth for a zoom [14:39] got another image coming [14:39] jeev: is that what u live ? [14:39] that's beverly hills [14:39] hehe [14:39] my parents live there, not in a billion dollar home though [14:39] hehe [14:39] lol . [14:39] http://i41.tinypic.com/2edo949.png [14:39] Camarade_Tux__ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:40] but the turnings ar steep [14:40] the lego blocks are intersting there. [14:40] it almost looks like missing fonts [14:40] I'm pondering killing my ISP [14:40] for the image label and the coords [14:40] yea i think i am missing fonts [14:40] i just went to 3d fonts and i just have Fixed [14:41] ahh [14:41] hehe [14:41] you still want me to blog it?hahaha [14:41] jeev: they use qt it seems !! i face same problem with virtualbox [14:41] Hmm kde4 on my laptop with vesa drivers fails after the kde splash screen - get black and white grey scale squished image of the kde desktop and everything locks up ... any info? [14:42] compl3x: eviljames is better person that consult !! [14:42] Howdy folks. [14:42] eviljames: ^ [14:42] I've got an off-topic question for the channel. [14:42] Alan_Hicks: ping it [14:42] i mean tell it :) [14:43] My company uses an old proprietary web-based ticket tracking system to let us track work orders. Since I intend to replace the server it's running on soon, I'ld like an open source alternative. [14:43] Alan_Hicks: request tracker, sugarcrm.. [14:43] Alan_Hicks: There are a number of solutions to meet your needs. [14:43] Alan_Hicks: http://bestpractical.com/rt/ [14:43] I need something with a customer address book, customizable fields, and .... I'll look at those. Thanks. :-) [14:43] eviljames: may I pm you? [14:43] Karu (n=alch@78-28-70-114.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left ##slackware. [14:44] let me check to see which conf i'm using [14:44] compl3x: yea, but I don't have any ideas offhand. Do you know if desktop effects is enabled? [14:44] also, why vesa? [14:44] I would vote for RT too Alan_Hicks [14:44] I've used it for years [14:45] compl3x: vesa usally hv problems !! btw whats your card [14:45] Ok I'm now installing Slackware [14:45] init[1]: ati something - let me check [14:45] no wonder flux ws going smooth lol !! [14:46] init[1]: different box.im talking about my laptop [14:46] pim_: 12.2 ? [14:46] init[1] indeed [14:46] pim_: :) tot it might be current !! [14:46] compl3x: :P [14:46] what is tot? [14:46] eviljames, i failed to mention that i didnt follow through with the paths X uses in default slack [14:47] The card is an ATI radeon express 200M acording to lspci [14:47] blaguvest (n=blaguves@c-28a072d5.036-245-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: "Leaving" [14:47] Thought it might slackware current pim_ [14:47] ah [14:47] is that good or bad? [14:47] pim_: havnt tried yet !! [14:48] ah [14:48] compl3x: u need proper drivers for ! [14:48] it [14:48] the installation seems to have stalled [14:48] crap [14:48] init[1]: im aware of that :p I just don't have a clue where to start with ati and slackware [14:48] pim_: gutenprint? [14:48] just wait [14:48] jeev: That's ok, it should be reproduceable one way or the other. [14:49] got the fonts [14:49] compl3x: 1 sec [14:49] yes gutenprint how did you guess :-) [14:49] when i type into the address bar over something, it kind of messes up [14:49] http://i44.tinypic.com/wjxn4o.png [14:49] pim_: just let it be [14:49] antiwire: bah, it stalled on that for me... left that and put 12.1 and installed that instead [14:49] compl3x: http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.HTML [14:49] credo: ...just wait for it to do what it needs to do... [14:50] impatient [14:50] i thought the burn is faulty [14:50] u wil need them .. me too using an binary driver nvdia [14:50] init[1]: okay [14:50] *a [14:50] you guys see it [14:50] i installed the font [14:50] http://i44.tinypic.com/wjxn4o.png [14:51] alienBOB, current's BOOTING.TXT mentions that if you want to boot from a USB stick, you should visit http://slackware.com:/~alien, shouldn't that rather point to usb-and-pxe-installers ? [14:51] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [14:51] compl3x: pm [14:52] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:52] antiwire how long is it supposed to take before it has installed gutenprint? [14:52] pim_: depends on your hardware [14:52] Nick change: Camarade_Tux__ -> Camarade_Tux [14:52] damnit, nobody is ocmmenting on the screenshot! [14:53] antiwire why does it take so long, the other packages were copied over much quicker [14:53] haha [14:53] pim_: because this package is generating printing files. [14:53] seriously...wtf [14:53] Camarade_Tux - as you see in BOOTING.TXT Pat updates that file every 10 years or so. Expect it to be fixed in 8 [14:53] pim_: is the dvd drive still alive [14:53] just fscking wait for fsck sake [14:53] jeev: It looks great to me. [14:54] thanks guys! Removed seamonkey from /etc/ld.so.conf and ran ldconfig and it all seems to work... though I dunno why... [14:54] Yes it has continued the installation process [14:54] alienBOB, right, I sas the files was already quite old ;) [14:54] ok i'm on rdesktop [14:54] it's lagging because of the color qualify probably [14:54] holy moly, how do i get out of zdesktop [14:54] i mean rdesktop, it looks like i'm on a windows computer LOL in full screen [14:54] pim_, strangely enough, I knew you were talking about gutenprint the second you mentionned long install (and without seeing your other message ;) ):p [14:54] ctrl alt enter [14:55] haha ati drivers - "there were errors during the installation" what a suprise [14:55] Ooh graphics look nice now [= [14:56] compl3x: did you install the drivers [14:56] compl3x, nvidia's version : could not compile kernel module [14:56] init[1]: yep [= [14:56] Camarade_Tux_ (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-20-241.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [14:56] compl3x: what kind of errors? pastebin? [14:56] i tld right :) [14:56] compl3x: wait, ... it worked? [14:56] eviljames: ignored it - kde4 launched fine now and - im - im - proud to say it o.o [14:56] Camarade_Tux: there is patch available in slackbuild [14:57] Camarade_Tux: mee too faaced same problem [14:57] compl3x: sweet! Now go try to enable desktop effects (K->System Settings->Desktop) and see if that works :P [14:57] init[1], I face it for every kernel update I do :D [14:57] Mista_D (i=42cfc442@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7354c4a5c6bdd73c) joined ##slackware. [14:57] eviljames: aight [= [14:57] Action: Camarade_Tux currently runs 2.6.30-rc5 [14:57] Camarade_Tux: is it ok now ? [14:58] Camarade_Tux: lol .. [14:58] i can build the new xserver but dont know how to update firefox, teehee [14:58] eviljames: failed - oh well im happy for now :) can't spend too much time on it atm [14:58] (without breaking packages) [14:58] compl3x: ahwell, tackle that issue later :P [14:58] Camarade_Tux: did the driver compiled properly for 2.5.30-rc5 [14:59] eviljames: yep - cheers again [14:59] like I said, I do what I can. [14:59] init[1], no, but a minor change is required [14:59] s/but a minor change is required/but the required change is minor/ [14:59] Camarade_Tux: hope i wont face the same problem [14:59] you will :) [15:00] :(( [15:00] jeev: for ff, just use the packages provided by slackware. upgradepkg (or slackpkg if you're really lazy :P) [15:00] in usr/src/nv/nv.src (I think), you need to remove all the lines that contain THIS_MODULE [15:00] it's maybe not that file, so run it once and check the log [15:01] yea i'm looking for it [15:01] and wouldn't be nv.src but nv.c of course [15:01] Camarade_Tux: can you slackbuildi it ? or bring up a patch [15:01] it would be helpful thou [15:03] Action: init[1] leving #slackware for time being .. [15:03] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [15:03] Action: init[1] init[0] [15:03] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "Leaving" [15:04] I'm wondering if booting from usbboot.img couldn't be made faster... [15:04] sed -i '/THIS_MODULE/d' file [15:05] Buggaboo, remove the whole lines [15:05] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) left irc: "leaving" [15:05] Hm, //d is whole lines? [15:05] or do you mean 's/pattern/result/'? [15:06] anshulk (n=chatzill@123.237.2.61) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:07] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn113.91-127-202.t-com.sk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:07] hmmm, my sed-fu is not that high, I'm not sure =/ [15:07] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn146.78-99-21.t-com.sk) joined ##slackware. [15:07] Camarade_Tux: is that anything like sed-jutsu? [15:08] you could try: echo "sedfoorocks" | sed 's/\(ro\)cks/fu/' [15:08] argh. [15:08] paissad_ (n=paissad@12.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:08] That went incredibly wrong. [15:08] lemme rephrase [15:08] grekkos, yeah, and a bit like google-fu :) [15:08] hehe [15:09] you could try: echo "sedfoorocks" | sed 's/ro\(cks\)/fu\1/' [15:09] | sed '/ck/d' [15:09] pi31415 (n=chatzill@75-145-67-114-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042315]" [15:09] You'll be spared of the horrible profanity. [15:09] eviljames: going against everything I said about kde4- on my Laptop it actually makes the laptop look brandnew. [15:10] you like kde4 then compl3x? [15:11] lilo ftw ! [15:11] firebird619: I must admit on my old laptop it looks nice [= [15:11] good to hear. :) [15:11] bbl [15:11] installing xorg now.. are there many packages left after that? [15:11] firebird619: but I doub't ill ever run it on my main beasty machine :p [15:12] I guess not many people send text messages such as "lilo ftw ! \o/" [15:12] compl3x: kde4 is great! [15:12] compl3x: I'm not ashamed to be a fan at all, I've been using it since rc days off and on. [15:12] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:13] eviljames, want to see a screenshot of my desktop again ? =P [15:13] eviljames: fair enough :p [15:13] Camarade_Tux: does it have a cute lebanese girl as the wallpaper? [15:14] is it necessary to update a slackware system? [15:14] compl3x: my hurdle right now is getting gf to accept it.. she's being very conservative and demanding kde3 be left intact on the desktop system.. [15:14] eviljames, the wallpaper compresses down to 6KB as .png although it could compressed as 000000 repeated 1280x800 times :D [15:14] pim_: as often as you want to :D [15:14] go loading initrd.img, go ! [15:15] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) joined ##slackware. [15:15] eviljames but I don't really need to bother with updates if I don't feel like it [15:15] eviljames: atleast your gf will go near your linux box - mine "miss's windows" stupid fool. [15:15] pim_: but sometimes you might want to, in case of security vulnerabilities. [15:15] eviljames Ah [15:15] compl3x: my gf is a slackware user. [15:16] That's nothing, /my/ gf... wait, I don't have one :( [15:16] eviljames: I envy you ]= [15:16] i wish i had a gf, but my wife wont let me have one [15:16] Rosey Palm [15:16] lol [15:16] and her five sisters [15:16] fred: It's fair to say that atm she is a slamd64 user :P [15:16] Pig_Pen: fail :p [15:16] that was meant for fred btw [15:16] explains his "tendon" issues with his hands [15:16] eviljames: two-timing, slackware64 on the laptop :p [15:17] eviljames do you do all updates on slackware manually? [15:17] fred: she tries to avoid using it, due to kde4 [15:17] pim_: every single one. [15:17] FYI, so far slamd64 -> slackware64 upgrade going very well [15:17] eviljames so I get to decide exactly what gets installed and what doesnt :D [15:17] pim_: yes. [15:18] rizitis (n=rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [15:18] maybe I should buy a book about slackware.. [15:18] Dominian: I wondered if you were going to crack that joke. I'm pleased you did. [15:18] pim_: type /topic [15:19] Reminds me of that joke from Master and Commander... [15:19] not enough parameters :p [15:19] is there a way to see [15:19] slackpkg upgrade-all without going through with it [15:19] Alan_Hicks: dare I ask? [15:19] I haven't investigated this yet, but just discovered mplayer is crashing hard on my slackware64 [15:19] The Captain gives a toast "To wives and sweet hearts." (May they never meet.) [15:19] hackedhead (n=hackedhe@unaffiliated/hackedhead) joined ##slackware. [15:19] hahaha yeah [15:19] Alan_Hicks: good movie btw [15:19] Alan_Hicks: hahahah nice! [15:19] :p [15:19] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.37) left irc: [15:19] Excellent movie. [15:20] btw, is it possible to edit boot entries in lilo ? (I mean at the linux prompt, during the boot) [15:20] eviljames: I'm not sure those CRM services are really what I'm after. [15:20] Camarade_Tux I would suppose so, grub offers this as well [15:20] Camarade_Tux: like you can in grub? that would be a cool feature [15:20] Alan_Hicks: sugar has an opensource version, it would cover the requirements of a client address book and an issue/workorder/project tracking system. [15:20] Alan_Hicks: but it might be using a bazooka to kill a fly. [15:21] Exactly. [15:21] It's far too complicated. [15:21] rt might be more what you're looking for.. I think I pasted the link to you earlier [15:21] Pig_Pen, ok, gonna boot on usbboot.img and fix that there [15:21] You did. It may not be a good fit either, but I'm looking at it. [15:21] I think I'll time the boot this time [15:21] is fontconfig update supposed to take so long? [15:21] Alan_Hicks: it also caries alienBOB's endorsement [15:21] Wish there was a demo available. [15:22] takes practically 0 time to deploy. [15:22] at least, in default configuration [15:22] And, it's in freebsd's ports [15:22] which makes it crazy simple to deploy on that platform. [15:23] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [15:23] ahoi [15:24] ahoi [15:24] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) left irc: "Saindo" [15:24] blitzboot ! 2 minutes for kernel+initrd ;p [15:25] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) joined ##slackware. [15:26] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:26] rhys_ (n=rhys@r-lyeh.meds.cwru.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:26] Linux j 2.6.29.4-smp #2 SMP Wed May 27 11:14:42 PDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [15:26] Buggaboo (n=Buggaboo@53578CE2.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:26] btw, why is vim available on slackware boot/install cd ? it can't run from there (missing libs) [15:26] use vi [15:26] yay first slackware system running [15:27] [= [15:27] rhys_ (n=rhys@r-lyeh.meds.cwru.edu) left irc: Client Quit [15:27] dont hate eviljames . [15:27] Camarade_Tux: iirc, the install disc uses busybox for all the coreutils. [15:27] rhys (n=rhys@r-lyeh.meds.CWRU.Edu) joined ##slackware. [15:27] eviljames, sure, it's only my hands which are used to type vim [15:27] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-75-38-52-124.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [15:27] oh no, my fault : the default path include /mnt/usr/bin/vim which is the currently installed system ;) [15:28] Action: compl3x just found mplayers fast forward/ slow mo functions and is giggline [15:28] giggling* [15:29] hm. Am I the only one who does ( cd /usr/bin ; rm -f vi ; ln -s vim vi ) immediately after any new install? [15:29] how do I start kde? [15:29] xwmconfig, then "startx" [15:29] pico for life. [15:29] Action: fred <3 vim7 for omnicomplete [15:30] Urchlay, does that count if I don't install elvis ? [15:30] Urchlay: Yes. But I do removepkg e/*tgz [15:30] jeev_: if you're editing a C source file, and your cursor is sitting on some function call, what keystroke do you press in pico to make it jump the cursor to the definition of that function (opening a new buffer if it's defined in a different file)? [15:30] tgz is so 2008 [15:30] Urchlay, i dont code. [15:30] eviljames, you can also install by seris ;) [15:30] you better install elvis, it is required [15:31] Camarade_Tux: it's faster to push "install all" and remove afterwards I find :P [15:31] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) left irc: "Saindo" [15:31] Camarade_Tux: besides I might skip ap/ by mistake :P [15:31] alienBOB: are you around? [15:31] Camarade_Tux: if you don't install elvis, you end up with /usr/bin/vi as a link to vim, so yes it counts :) [15:31] Maybe [15:31] Good answer :) [15:32] http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/freetype/pkg/12.0/ can you tell me if that package has the evil proprietary bytecode interpreter enabled? [15:32] eviljames, might be faster if you have a 1GB/s throughput between your install media and install drive, but I don't ;p [15:32] soo... i could install slackware and uncheck elvis and bad things wont happen to the system? 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[15:32] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [15:33] Hm I should remove it then [15:33] Or move it to restricted_slackbuilds [15:33] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Connection timed out [15:34] Pig_Pen, actually, on this system, elvis is installed but I've not installed it without problems [15:34] aha init 4 [15:34] I guess it's more REQUIRED as a last-resort recuperation editor [15:34] alienBOB: feel free, I have it now anyway ;) [15:34] jeev_ (n=jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) left irc: "brb" [15:34] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:35] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "()" [15:35] hmmm, I just sent a text message "will you blowjob me ?", but I'm not sure whom I sent it to... [15:36] your mom [15:36] the installer has that "REQUIRED" on it so i always installed it [15:36] should be funny ;) [15:36] i was too paranoid to uncheck it out of fear that something bad would happen to the system [15:37] Pig_Pen, at first I did then I thought "why would it be required ? automation would be sed/awk anyway" [15:38] alienBOB: thanks for that package, you saved my day. [15:38] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-216-187-138.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:40] Camarade_Tux: I just got a text that says "will you blowjob me?" [15:40] Camarade_Tux: No, btw. [15:40] Why is a certain editor required anyways? what if someone didn't want any but their favorite(like nano/pico)? [15:41] some version of vi (elvis or vim) needs to be installed as /usr/bin/vi because some programs (crontab, vipw, visudo) use it by default [15:42] eh, though I suppose /usr/bin/vi could be symlink to /usr/bin/pico and those programs would work just fine [15:42] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [15:43] eviljames, a secret lover ? can't be me, I had written it in french actually ;p [15:43] and you made me sad even though it wasn't my text =/ [15:43] lol [15:43] i like mc (midnight commander) i moved mountains with that nice file manager / text editor [15:43] eh, I just have to know. What is the French word for "blowjob"? [15:44] bleh i hate working with old hardware [15:44] Urchlay, it would be a better alternative because I actually never use vi(m) or anything other then nano for editing. Also is why I never install emacs :\ [15:44] Urchlay: export VISUAL=/usr/bin/nano will fix that. [15:44] some guy wants me to put linux on his celeron 333mhz w/ 192mb ram and an 8gb hdd and the damned cd drive is busted [15:45] nice thing to find out after i waste 3 cds on iso's that wont work [15:45] EuroTrash: yes I know. He was asking why the default install says elvis is required. I seriously doubt Pat would ever make /usr/bin/vi a symlink to pico on a default Slack install though... [15:45] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.91.201) joined ##slackware. [15:46] Stranger things have happened! [15:46] Wait, no they haven't. [15:46] paissad_ (n=paissad@12.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] Urchlay, "sucer" (to suck) or "tailler une pipe" [15:47] suce le bit? [15:47] I know if I ever log in to a UNIX-ey system and type "vi /etc/hosts" or whatever, and I get pico or nano, that would set off alarm bells... "previous sysadm is probably insane" type of alarms [15:47] worse if vi doesn't work. [15:48] gyroscope (n=gyroscop@unaffiliated/gyroscope) joined ##slackware. [15:48] eviljames, that would be "suce(r|s|) la bite", but "tu suces ?" is explicit enough [15:48] Urchlay, but I edit everything in nano :( [15:48] Urchlay, ed ! :p [15:48] bash: vi: command not found [15:48] :O [15:48] ok well after a succesful install I'm done with slackware for the day [15:48] thanks for the help [15:48] see you later [15:49] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [15:49] jescis: yes, and you can "export VISUAL=pico" as someone said above, in your .bash_profile... it'd be insane to make vi a symlink to pico on a system-wide basis [15:49] so now i have to tear apart one of my boxes and steal a dvd drive to install slack on this old pos [15:49] *sigh* [15:49] pim_ (n=jae@ip54506326.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) left irc: [15:49] good thing this is making me $ [15:50] afaict slackware doesn't come with gst-plugins-good, that means it doesn't even have an avi demuxer ! =/ [15:50] thats what avidemux is for :P [15:50] I mean, you could rename /usr/bin to /Program\ Files if you want, but it'd be insame... [15:51] Urchlay, haha ! =P [15:51] on my windows installs, Program\ Files is renamed to Programs :) [15:51] Camarade_Tux: I bet you run across a few dumb apps that fail because of that [15:52] like I used to have win95 apps that would fail if they were installed on D: instead of C:... ugh [15:52] Urchlay, I just thought optrions were good and anyone that might be like me. Might want the option to not have every editor installed when the person only uses one all the time. :\ [15:52] Urchlay, actually no ! but you can *STILL* get *several* dumb apps which fail because of the space in "Program Files" ! [15:52] Camarade_Tux: I'll write down "tu suces?" for next time I'm in France. Think it'll work? [15:52] (and if an app wants to install to Program\ Files anyway, it doesn't survive long ;) ) [15:53] jescis: you do have the option to get rid of vim and elvis on your system... or anything else you want to do [15:53] eviljames, should be good enough :) [15:53] mziulu (i=52555923@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3c156e91d02a9d3c) joined ##slackware. [15:53] What about C:\Progra~1 ? [15:53] ugh [15:53] eviljames, you might also use "T'avales ?" (you swallow ?) [15:53] eviljames, still in use [15:53] Shrp_ (n=Shrp_Edg@c-71-202-96-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:54] actually if you create C:\Program, you will get a beautiful warning message when explorer.exe starts ;p [15:54] I should try that with win7 :) [15:54] (it says some app could fail) [15:54] does the French version of windows use "C:\Les Files d'Programmes" or whatever the correct French words would be? [15:56] maybe it's not called windows in france ;) [15:57] iirc in win95 there was some translation, I'm having troubles remembering it [15:57] and both existed actually >< [15:58] but now, in win7, it's worse : explorer.exe translates some folder names and you don't get the same things in a command prompt or in the explorer, really annoying [15:59] Urchlay lol [15:59] (that might be some information in ntfs metadata so that might be fixable :) ) [16:00] oh wow, that sounds hideous [16:00] tooly (n=tooly@e178168186.adsl.alicedsl.de) left ##slackware. [16:00] non dicto linguam franciae [16:00] (heh, and my Latin ain't so hot either) [16:01] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) joined ##slackware. [16:01] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:03] windows(english) = fenetres(french) :D [16:03] paissad_ (n=paissad@12.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:04] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:04] alisonken1home (n=alisonke@pool-71-104-226-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:04] knew it'd be something like that, same root as "defenestrate" in English (to throw someone out of a window) [16:04] fenêtres :) (poll : for how many doesn't that display properly ?) [16:04] défenestrer ;) [16:04] WFM (UTF8) [16:05] f84hdf4h (n=daniel@user-11jl3bu.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [16:05] no one told me about seenonslash.com ! [16:05] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) joined ##slackware. [16:05] where do I get libqt3-mt package for slackware? [16:06] you running -current or something? [16:06] nooper, the first comment makes me think of something I heard a few hours ago : "thuna ? that's not fish !" [16:06] Camarade_Tux: not here.. I wonder why not? [16:06] hehe [16:07] f84hdf4h (n=daniel@user-11jl3bu.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:07] f84hdf4h (n=daniel@user-11jl3bu.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [16:07] alicephilippa (i=alice@89.194.68.46) joined ##slackware. [16:07] where do I get libqt3-mt package for slackware? [16:08] f84hdf4h: Are you using -current or something? [16:08] nope [16:08] 12.0 [16:08] i would use current if i had a blank dvd [16:08] http://packages.slackware.it/package.php?q=12.0/qt-3.3.8-i486-4 [16:08] qt should provide it. [16:08] qt packages does provide it [16:09] f84hdf4h, could go current using the net install instead of installing from the CD/DVD :\ [16:10] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [16:11] what does the "mt" stand for? [16:11] in libqt3-mt [16:11] multi-talented [16:11] Action: Dominian shrugs [16:11] multi-threaded [16:11] multi-thread* [16:11] ='( [16:11] ananke: damn.. I was close! [16:11] :@ [16:11] Dominian : yep :) [16:11] heh [16:11] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.63.9) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:11] Action: Camarade_Tux got Dominian's message before ananke's ;) [16:11] hmm.. and how is that different than the default library shipped with Slack? [16:12] what default library? [16:12] i mean qt? [16:12] qt ships default... the libqt in QT IS Multi-threaded. [16:12] oh [16:12] ok [16:13] so no mean to download it from slacky.eu then [16:13] Action: Camarade_Tux waits for the reactions [16:14] rizitis (n=rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left irc: "-r" [16:16] lunarvalleys, it's in the L(libraries) directory/folder. Only if you didn't install kde would you not have it :\ [16:16] or need it. [16:17] , i get it... but i think in slackware 12.2 qt3 is in L (not sure though, and i am lasy to check) [16:17] actually i am using E17, no KDE installed and i still have qt3 [16:17] but may be back in slack12.0 it was different [16:18] maybe *shrugs* [16:18] ye :) [16:18] qt used to be in kde/, but moved to l/ since other stuff can use it too [16:19] so, if you used to omit kde/, you probably didn't have qt either; that's not the case any longer [16:20] other than opera i dont know of any qt based apps besides kde apps [16:20] google earth, virtualbox [16:20] eh, and some version of unreal tournament I think (been a while) [16:20] vbox qt? [16:20] there are a few, and with qt4, will probably be more [16:21] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:21] Pig_Pen: yep. That's why the SBo script has QT3= and QT4= variables [16:21] optional though [16:21] it's pretty much the default ;) [16:21] Camarade_Tux: if you set them both to "no", do you end up with a GUI for vbox at all? [16:21] thrice`, hehe ;p [16:22] Opera uses qt also I think [16:22] Urchlay, yeah, sure : you need to see the virtual machine :D [16:22] (but it may be statically linked with its own version of qt) [16:22] i.e. you *only* see the virtual machine ;) [16:22] I always figured if I don't install kde I shouldn't need and install qt :\ [16:22] and, http://my.opera.com/kilsmo/blog/2008/01/29/opera-is-not-based-on-qt [16:23] at one time it definitely did use qt [16:23] what about jre? Does it need qt? [16:23] dunno about "based on", but it definitely *used* qt [16:23] jre should be self-contained, and has its own toolkit for drawing windows. [16:24] http://list.opera.com/pipermail/opera-linux/2001-December/001669.html :) [16:24] ah [16:24] many like the qt4 interface especially, and seem to be picking it up [16:24] Action: eviljames is one of those many [16:24] like media players, some web-browsers [16:24] eviljames, so does that mean I can't use jre cli? [16:24] virtualbox is a good example [16:25] "What does static opera need to run? "... there used to be a dynamic opera you could use instead. And it definitely required qt. [16:25] jescis: oh, no, I thought you were intending to use it graphically. In whch case it has its own set of widgets. at cli it is fine. [16:28] alienBOB, have you made a kernel .config for your eee ? (eee 1000 here and that could save me some work, especially considering it's already quite late) [16:29] Camarade_Tux: me too :) [16:30] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.118) joined ##slackware. [16:30] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: "Leaving." 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[16:37] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] heret|c (n=heretic@c-71-199-141-98.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] well, gonna make that .config :) [16:39] Camarade_Tux: if it turns out aight - give me a shout :p [16:39] compl3x, sure :) [16:40] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:41] I should probably upgrade that laptop first [16:42] don't bother. North Korea is gonna nuke us all anyway. [16:42] that's why I should do it now ! [16:42] my laptop can't boot that fast because of the HD, but with an SSD, I should get another bunch of seconds :) [16:43] Action: compl3x doesn't really care about boot speed , is never in a rush [16:43] pretty much the same here.. plus I don't boot that often. 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[17:08] aaaahhhhh, too many packages to upgrade, that should be completed by tomorrow however ;p [17:09] flashdisk16mb (n=flashdis@254.Red-88-23-253.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [17:09] i have a sandisk 16mb flashdisk pcmcia card ata which becomes an 8MB flashdisk after being formatted. What mini-distro o shall i say micro distro can i install on it? Will i be able to boot from the pcmcia card? [17:10] My first guess: none made this century. [17:10] But maybe you can shoehorn netbsd or something along those lines into it. [17:11] eviljames, there mught be one actually, there was somebody who came here one or two weeks ago and spoke about one but I just can't remember thename ;) [17:11] bbl :) [17:12] ive been looking around to try to find information on if i can do somethiing in screen i want to do... currently i have a process going but i want to pull it into screen and detach it from my desktop [17:12] can it be done? [17:12] iirc you can bg a task and then fg it elsewhere [17:13] this is an active process and i dont want to break what its doing [17:13] the terminal isactive on the process it did not release the konsole [17:15] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-428175.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [17:16] VampirePenguin: you have to have started the process from within screen, to do what you want [17:17] ya i kinda figured taht but was hoping [17:17] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:17] that would be a cool feature [17:17] hhe [17:18] heh [17:18] I was just experimenting in the shell w/ bg and fg commands, trying to move something into screen. [17:18] no dice so far. Urchlay is most likely right. [17:18] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [17:19] rhys (n=rhys@r-lyeh.meds.CWRU.Edu) left irc: "Leaving" [17:19] in this case I'd really love to be wrong :( [17:23] Nick change: f84hdf4h -> __daniel [17:23] Nick change: __daniel -> ___daniel [17:23] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [17:24] caio (n=caio@190.244.32.54) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:25] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [17:29] k_wolf (n=root@189.77.209.108) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:30] gm152_ (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:32] gm152_ (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:33] gOi_ (n=grissly@196.210.214.250) joined ##slackware. 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[17:39] Movie title - 28 a bugs later - a coders nightmare haha [17:40] qneo (n=knao@adsl-dyn146.78-99-21.t-com.sk) left ##slackware. [17:40] g0i: im new to, dont be scared of them :P [17:40] nitro25 (n=nitro25@72.230.179.21) joined ##slackware. [17:40] were nice people :p [17:40] except eviljames , thus the name. [17:40] dyn0myt3: who is them?? [17:41] aye [17:41] i'm having installing problems, setup doesn't recognise(see?) my sata hard drives [17:41] see you ppl [17:41] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) left irc: "leaving" [17:41] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) joined ##slackware. [17:42] The-Croupier: implying those that are not new. [17:42] Hey just curious to knw ! are there any female slackware user around !! [17:42] gOi_: After you get to a prompt, what does fdisk -l show you? [17:44] nbuonanno (n=nbuonann@rrcs-208-125-173-13.nys.biz.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [17:44] init[1]: why do you put !! after everything - feels like your shouting [17:44] compl3x: you can hear him from !! [17:44] maybe he has that voice modulation syndrome [17:45] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-167-117-157.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:45] compl3x: :P i came late ! did i miss any episode !! [17:45] init[1]: my gf = a female slackware user. iirc nix_chix0r too. [17:45] compl3x: he's just excited, that's all !! :P [17:45] nix_chix0r runs something else [17:45] antiwire : it shows only /dev/hda1 ( my IDE harddrive ). And when i turn it on, it shows me /ev/sda1 my USB hard drive [17:45] eviljames: rofl!! [17:46] gOi_: what type of controller are your sata disks attached to? [17:46] SQOTD: what's that command that displays what kernel you're using? [17:46] used to know female slackware user locally... well, sort-of. She had a slackware box acting as a firewall for her lan, but I bet she didn't know/care that it was slackware [17:47] eviljames: wow nice to know that !! but are you sure she is still using it!! [17:47] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [17:47] Urchlay: that one bunch of info !! usually female's dont like sloving problems !! IMHO [17:48] antiwire : i don't know wha you are asking, how do i find out? [17:48] nbuonanno: uname -a [17:48] show you pretty much everything you need [17:48] The-Croupier: that's the one!! [17:48] gOi_: i can't help you anymore. someone else may be able to [17:48] i knew it, it just got brainfarted out of $memory [17:48] gOi_: may i help you [17:48] nbuonanno: i know it happens to me too sometimes, i run memtest on me sometimes too ;) [17:49] gOi_: what ws the problem ? [17:49] i'm pretty sure init[1] is drunk [17:50] antiwire: where do you get that impression from? [17:50] antiwire: :( im not , i dont have channel logs to track back his question !! [17:50] init[1] : linux doesn't see my SATA drives unless i enable AHCI which, i don't know what it is [17:50] gOi_: why didn't you mention AHCI when i asked what chipset you were dealing with [17:51] antiwire: hahaha lol .. [17:51] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-248-134.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:51] ... [17:51] i was going to tell you to switch the mode if the chipset supported it [17:51] antiwire : i was confused, asked you to clarify after which you said you couldn't help me, cause you thought i was too dumb i guess [17:51] init[1]: eh, she didn't like solving problems herself. Instead she turned on the charm and got guys like me to solve them. [17:51] The-Croupier: memtest on what? [17:51] gOi_: Did I call you dumb or insult your intelligence in any way? [17:52] I don't see that in the buffer at all. [17:52] init[1]: I drew the line at actually doing her job for her over IRC though [17:52] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [17:52] gOi_:how did you come to knw that is AHCI problme !! any message [17:52] Urchlay: so slackware has helped you to atleast ping her !! lol [17:52] init[1] : i enable it, linux works mostly ok, i disable it, linux doesn't see sata, i want to see sata even when achi disabled [17:53] antiwire : no you didn't, that was my opinion [17:53] antiwire : but i'm in a bad mood, so i apologize for intimating that [17:53] think i meant inferring [17:54] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:54] gOi_: does enabling ACHI bring up any problem? then y can't swithc on the ACHi [17:54] she was getting $90K/yr to maintain perl scripts... and she didn't even know perl (or any other programming language). [17:54] Urchlay: are you serious !! [17:54] I'm all for helping people... but actually doing the job for them, while they get paid, is over the line [17:54] init[1] : CAUSE IT BREAKS WINDOWS, AND I NEED MY WOW FIX [17:54] Sorry about caps [17:55] gOi_: hey !! are you talking abt enabling ACHI at bios or kernel [17:55] BIOS [17:55] Urchlay: u should ask them !! thats really bad , it your time and effort [17:55] guys im sorry... how can i find a windows id? [17:56] what is that? never heard of something like that? [17:56] init[1]: she never would tell me the name of the compant [17:56] company [17:56] _arfon_ (n=arfon@ip67-95-13-58.z13-95-67.customer.algx.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:57] Urchlay: spy on here .. may be when she comes for the next irc vist ! ck her domain or ip .. may be u may get some clue .. [17:57] init[1]: dude, this was like 5+ years ago [17:57] she lost that job or quit, then moved out of state [17:58] Urchlay: ooops . no wonder y she lost it !! [17:58] yeah [17:58] antiwire, init[1], Thanks for your time, guess i'll just have to reinstall everything [17:58] gOi_ (n=grissly@196.210.214.250) left irc: [17:58] gOi_: no [17:58] sigh [17:58] antiwire: ... [17:58] :( [17:59] how do u boot a sata only system, since im on ide still :P [18:00] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:00] dyn0myt3: if your in urgent need ! disable ide [18:00] antiwire: goi is gona come back right ! after all the reinstall [18:00] i think they have problems if their drive is not hda [18:01] dyn0myt3: no u can change it in fstab [18:01] dyn0myt3: detecting as hdX or sdX isn't an issue [18:01] <___daniel> hrm [18:01] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: No route to host [18:01] <___daniel> why does 'kmix' take 120 seconds to start up [18:01] Camarade_Tux: I use the stock kernel on my eeepc 1000h (slackware-current) [18:02] well i installed to hdb, it took me a while to figure out how to cfdisk [18:02] alienBOB: did you stick to the intel graphics drivers in the kernel? [18:02] dyn0myt3: next time u wont hav that problem! well are you only planing to use satat [18:02] *Sata [18:03] well, why not [18:04] or at least run my os from sata [18:04] dyn0myt3: can be bit clear ! do you hv both sata and ide [18:04] or just sata ! [18:04] i have only ide, im just asking about sata for infoz sake. [18:05] ooh, dyn0myt3 u need to recompile kernel for sata emulation !! [18:05] its on my motherboard but i have no drives yet. [18:05] dyn0myt3: got ! [18:05] ok [18:05] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-248-134.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] compl3x: yes, everything is standard slackware-current. Plus additions of course, but no changes or replacement packages [18:06] blah [18:06] Nick change: dogsoul -> k9Ip8 [18:07] Urchlay: wht happd suddenly a blah !! [18:07] guys: really important... been reading this root-tail for some time now.. even followed the example in sbo, and every other site ive seen. tried to run it as user.. and tried to run it as root... nothing on the desktop [18:07] alienBOB: ah right [= [18:07] init[1]: fighting with broken autoconf stuff [18:08] could someone clarify something? what is this window id? how does one find out about this? or another example except the one in sbo? [18:08] Nick change: k9Ip8 -> dogsoul [18:09] The-Croupier: "xlsclients -al" will show you the window IDs of all your X windows [18:10] The-Croupier: if in fact that's what you're asking about [18:11] Urchlay: i dont know what exactly it means.. i read it in the root-tail man page something about id of window..i didnt understand it .. and google gave me windowsxp id ...etc..etc.. nothing useful [18:11] Urchlay: thanks though..ill give that a try [18:11] smica (n=smica@h128-180.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [18:11] The-Croupier: xwininfo [18:11] "xwininfo -root" if you just need to get the windowID of the root window [18:11] The-Croupier: xdpyinfo | grep "window id" or "xwininfo" [18:12] xwininfo: Window id: 0x188 (the root window) (has no name) [18:12] etigo (n=etigo@port-212-202-200-39.dynamic.qsc.de) joined ##slackware. [18:12] thank you guys ;) [18:12] The-Croupier: can you please paste bin wht you see [18:12] never used root-tail though, I dunno why it needs you to do that for it (it should be smart enough to find the root window...) [18:12] atleast v can peep into it1 [18:13] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host86-167-117-157.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:13] Action: init[1] leving #slackware time 3:42 AM - gota sleep [18:14] init[1] (n=init[1]@unaffiliated/akber/x-5446599) left irc: "Leaving" [18:14] HoldMyPocket (n=choward@168-215-208-8.static.twtelecom.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [18:15] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:15] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE7E16.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("parted..."). 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[18:30] alienBOB, ok, thanks, I'll try to make my own, but another day ;) [18:31] BOFH__ (n=berserk@host60-91-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:34] also, read the manpage of root-tail again 4th time now... i get displayed on the screen 10lines, does anyone know how to make it display more then that? ive seen on the screenshot there could be more lines displayed..:( [18:35] Camarade_Tux: spook made an entry in slackwiki for eepc, but good luck accessing it presently. :P [18:36] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:37] The-Croupier: as an example: "root-tail -g 800x250+100+50 /var/log/messages,blue -font 6x12 /var/log/secure,red,'ALERT'" [18:38] exbio (n=exi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [18:38] chopp: I am now. :) [18:38] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) joined ##slackware. [18:39] firebird619: pm? [18:39] chopp, I can quite easily make small kernels, the only annoying part is the hard drive part, which manufacturers always manage to make as opaque as possible :) [18:39] sure [18:39] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] I was wondering why the kernel sources were not extracting : I had typed 'tar xs' instead of 'tar xf' =/ [18:41] reminds me some girl mentionned bash.org (actually bash-fr.org) to me today, and I told her 'noobfarm.org is better', I'm wondering if she'd get a tenth of the tech jokes :p [18:43] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [18:45] chopp: i tried that already... my problem is why have only 12 lines showing and not more?? [18:46] chopp, and doesn't seem to be on archive.org [18:46] Camarade_Tux: you dont have to be really a full techie to get the jokes..some of them are really funny without knowing the tech-stuff [18:47] The-Croupier, right, it really depends on the jokes [18:47] the last one I read was http://noobfarm.org/?id=1536 ;) [18:47] nitro25 (n=nitro25@72.230.179.21) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:48] Camarade_Tux: tbh, i dont get that [18:48] hahaha I didn't realize my ball cradling joke made it to noobfrarm [18:49] urmom [18:49] The-Croupier, well, I guess he ate some http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben-Gay [18:49] 1531 is just hillarious [18:50] i dont believe ppl do that, i read it like 10 times so far..still cannot believe it :D [18:50] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [18:50] I don't want to believe such people exist... [18:50] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! 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[18:56] i would laugh even more [18:57] credo: i can inform you that she passed the test with score 98% after 2months teaching [18:57] farabi (n=farabi@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:57] all the topics [19:00] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:00] the nice part when configuring a kernel for an eeepc is that you're absolutely 100% completely positively sure nobody sane will ever try to pci hotplug anything into it, there's just not enough space :) [19:00] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.126.93) joined ##slackware. [19:00] Camarade_Tux: haha [19:00] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-428175.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:00] compl3x, I'll maybe have the .config for tomorrow :) [19:01] no, I mostly need to trim the kernel so it *compiles* faster ;p [19:01] Camarade_Tux: nice [= [19:01] Camarade_Tux: you could also check with spook when he's around. [19:02] oh, btw, an atom should always run at full-speed, I think it uses less power that way ! -> performance governor [19:02] chopp, yeah, sure [19:02] guys, when making a pkg...when it checks for stuff... i see sometimes there are things that it says no.. how can i stop it from making/compiling it if it says no? [19:02] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@c-98-230-11-174.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:02] cos most of the time i run the slackbuild and it just makes it for me ;) but i want it to stop there and tell me what was that it didnt find [19:03] ^C :) [19:03] ctrl+c ?! [19:04] yeah, the only way I know [19:04] when it compiles stuff does it not write it somewhere? [19:04] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.123.21) joined ##slackware. [19:04] it usually writes a config.log [19:04] i thought it writes it in /var/log/messages ...but i see no records there [19:05] fwiw, the end of the file is mostly autotools garbage [19:05] config.log....hmmm have to look for that next time [19:06] hd (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:06] ./configure &> output [19:06] The-Croupier: that is just configure doing its thing. There are always going to be no's [19:07] then I suppose you could "grep '\' output" just to see the stuff that it looked for [19:07] if you have a specific option you are looking for just grep for it [19:07] oh damn. [19:07] (and didn't find)... but a lot of stuff would be completely harmless anyway [19:08] hey math people is this correct? 2.18340105585e+14 = 2.18340105585x10^14 [19:08] yes [19:08] DeiBellum: thanks [19:08] antiwire, no problem [19:08] antiwire: looks fine [19:08] like, "checking whether we can include and in the same program... no", this is not an error or anything missing, it just affects how the headers get created, or what order they get included in, etc. [19:08] How would I configure /etc/exports to only share to one IP? [19:09] Hey antiwire. [19:09] hello! [19:09] hmm think I got it [19:09] antiwire: you use qemu? [19:09] antiwire: i see.. so i shouldnt worry so much about the nos...unless it doesnt compile [19:09] firebird619: yeah, KVM + the KVM distributed qemu [19:09] The-Croupier: right [19:09] compl3x: how's your day going? [19:09] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:10] firebird619: good buddy, yours? [19:10] The-Croupier: or unless you know for sure you need a specific no to be a yes ;) [19:10] i see.. i was trying to make most of the pkgs not have nos...and looking for libs..etc..etc.. [19:10] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-181-126.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:10] The-Croupier: if you have a "set -e" in your script before the configure line, the script will bail out if the configure script actually fails [19:10] antiwire: i see... so i have to keep a very close look of what is being made ;) [19:10] The-Croupier: the no's just mean configure didn't find that but it doesn't mean it' [19:10] it's required to build [19:11] antiwire: Well, I'm just using qemu + aqemu front end, no kvm. If I wanted to install, in this case OpenSolaris to a 40 GB hdd and use qemu to start/access it, could I do that from within qemu, or would I have to install to the drive itself and then point qemu at it afterwords? Do you know? [19:11] compl3x: going great, thanks. The weather could be better, but I won't complain. :) [19:11] firebird619: you can just create a disk image and use the 40GB disk to contain that image [19:11] firebird619: nice - I just finished of my imdb script [= [19:11] thanks guys ;) [19:11] compl3x: awesome. [19:14] HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Success [19:14] Hmm nice - nfs share setup [19:14] but now I forgot why I needed it [19:14] antiwire: Hmm, I could do that. Thanks. One of the reasons I asked what I did is, if I could start aqemu and install OpenSolaris to this 40 GB from qemu, I could still have slackware up and whatnot, but I don't know that it would even be possible, but I like your idea, use the 40 GB to store the image, the drive has windows 7 beta on it right now and I'll have to wipe that first. [19:15] you shouldn't need to wipe it as long as you have a filesystem on it you can read [19:15] just create a disk image that fits in the free space [19:15] unless you need all 40GB [19:16] I don't need all 40 probably, but I want OpenSolaris on the entire drive, I have windows 7 in a vm now that works, so I don't need/want it on the 40 GB anymore. [19:16] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:18] antiwire: Is dd what I'd use to create the disk image on that drive? [19:19] qemu has image creation tools [19:19] but dd would work too [19:19] qemu-img [19:19] oh yeah, I used qemu-img the other day to convert some vbox vdi's to qcow2 [19:20] when sbopkg installs a program and leaves data in the /tmp/sbo dir, is that safe to delete or necessary? [19:21] gyroscope (n=gyroscop@unaffiliated/gyroscope) left ##slackware ("Ho_ça kal1n1z. ~ Have a nice day."). [19:21] yep [19:21] im assuming its ok to delete since its in temp but i'd rather not hose some apps if i can avoid it [19:21] antiwire: I'll shut down here now and get that drive connected again and work on it. Thanks alot for the help. [19:23] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). 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[19:30] Camarade_Tux: i think thats it [19:30] not sure [19:30] Action: The-Croupier googling for examples and manpage [19:31] it's dd [19:32] I'd better go to bed, less than 7 hours of sleep left =/ [19:32] good night :) [19:32] antiwire: ;) i still have to google for examples [19:32] Camarade_Tux: gnight [19:32] less then 6hours here ;) [19:33] dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc <-- would sdb to sdc bit for bit including empty space [19:33] would copy** [19:33] I used 'dd if=usb-and-pxe-installers/usbboot.img of=/dev/sdc1 bs=512' a few hours ago to make an usb stick bootable with slackware installer [19:33] you can go to a file too: dd if=/dev/sdb of=/mnt/SPACE/sdb-image.bin [19:33] The-Croupier, I'm skipping one hour of school, well, I'll be doing it over irc ;p [19:34] The-Croupier: and then you can even mount partitions that are inside the .bin [19:35] you can also just 'mount -o loop' too :p [19:36] s/too// [19:36] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.83) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:36] (and note that my use of 'just' is french, it's completely incorrect) [19:36] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [19:36] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.83) joined ##slackware. [19:36] Camarade_Tux: yes you can but you must specify the offset for partitions inside of the disk image [19:36] Greetings again everyone. :) [19:37] hi [19:37] hey firebird619 [19:37] hi twolf [19:37] hey compl3x [19:37] hmm, right had forgotten about that ;) [19:37] night firebird619, see you tomorrow ;p [19:37] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Leaving" [19:37] hi firebird619 [19:37] Hi pupit [19:38] kamaji (n=kamaji@137.222.233.63) left irc: "borkborkbork" [19:40] Windows beta, nothing extra installed or anything, takes up 8.27 GB on that drive, well at least that's the used space. :P [19:40] TClayton_ (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-181-126.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [19:40] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:41] what happened to the good old days [19:41] hacking docsis [19:42] hd (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [19:44] rwaters (n=rwaters@c-98-230-11-174.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:45] DeiBellum (n=rwaters@c-98-230-11-174.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:47] Shuren (n=Devilman@host118-171-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:48] Shuren (n=Devilman@host152-223-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [19:49] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [19:49] lol [19:49] i wasnt even born probably [19:49] in the good old days [19:49] lol [19:50] well everyone has different good old days [19:51] hacking docsis is the good old days? [19:51] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.126.93) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:52] heh [19:52] well [19:52] they're giving me a hard time now [19:52] i cant even scan the damn network anymore. [19:53] lol [19:53] The network that my cable modem is attached to is utter mayhem [19:53] mine too [19:53] they're trying to tighten it down [19:53] but failed [19:53] i can still get through but i need to scan! [19:55] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.15.252) left irc: SendQ exceeded [19:57] crap [19:58] used to get like 10k macs in a /16 [19:58] now it's 4 [19:58] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.15.252) joined ##slackware. [19:58] 4, not even 4k, 4. [19:58] aren't worried about setting off some IDS? [20:00] what would be a nice slackbuild to follow and change for compiling something? [20:00] l00t (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.22.109) joined ##slackware. [20:00] making a pkg never worked for me.. sounds like im cursed on not making any never [20:01] use the SBo template [20:01] antiwire: already did :( [20:01] make sure you program supports DESTDIR in the makefile [20:01] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-181-126.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:02] no antiwire [20:02] nille (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [20:02] antiwire: ill try again :( [20:03] The-Croupier: what are you trying to package? [20:05] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:10] LnxSlck (i=1000@95.69.123.21) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:11] antiwire: zeitline [20:12] sounds really nice... ;) [20:12] TClayton_ (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-181-126.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [20:12] i dont want to install stuff on my pc with configure make install kind of things [20:12] TClayton (n=TClayton@nc-76-0-181-131.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [20:12] hugleo (i=1000@unaffiliated/hugleo) joined ##slackware. [20:12] hi [20:12] hi [20:12] klontj (i=c721ad01@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-280e9b58749d5509) joined ##slackware. [20:13] I've installed kde and the menu is hidden [20:13] hugleo: slack version, kde version? [20:13] Action: tecky dances to 30 seconds to mars - The Kill [20:14] tecky: such a good song [20:14] tecky: acoustic version is just amazing [20:14] compl3x: 12.2, kde 3.5.10 [20:14] compl3x: indeed :) [20:14] compl3x: ooh ... i want! [20:14] hugleo: what do you mean the menu is hidden [20:14] ugh some java thing [20:14] compl3x: gimme! :P [20:14] tecky: give you? [20:15] compl3x: kde games, kde office, etc.. all hidden [20:15] antiwire: yep [20:15] just got in the src myself too ;) [20:15] compl3x: I've made a test using bash-3.1$ kbuildsycoca [20:15] compl3x: I got a error [20:16] compl3x: kbuildsycoca: ERROR: applications.menu not found in (/home/hgl/.config/menus/) [20:17] tecky http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlgzFH-MJsQ [20:17] hugleo: got a screenshot of whats going on? [20:19] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:19] tecky: if you can get an mp3 of it - studio recording , Its amazing. [20:20] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:20] gm152_ (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:21] Meckafett (n=meckafet@unaffiliated/meckafett) joined ##slackware. [20:21] netbeans or eclipse? [20:22] compl3x: done [20:22] compl3x: http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7963/kdes.png [20:22] hugleo: interesting [20:23] hugleo: if you dont have any valuable kde settings, I suggest you delete your ~/.kde directory and log back into kde [20:24] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:25] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.63.55) joined ##slackware. [20:25] compl3x: Need I restart my system? I've installed the kde at this time [20:25] paissad (n=paissad@127.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:25] hugleo: you do not need to restart [20:26] i'll try [20:26] hugleo: simply go back to the login window ( login terminal ) ctrl+alt +backspace [20:26] <|ast|_> hugleo: restart X single [20:26] hugleo: remove your ~/.kde directory ( WARNING: it will delete your kde settings ) and then startx [20:26] <|ast|_> hugleo: mv .kde .kde.old ; startx [20:27] compl3x: |ast|_ ok [20:27] hugleo (i=1000@unaffiliated/hugleo) left irc: "restart kde" [20:27] <|ast|_> kde old for kde 3.5.10 moved in .kde.old [20:27] <|ast|_> :) [20:27] :P [20:27] |ast|_: hes gone :p [20:28] <|ast|_> yes [20:28] Action: |ast|_ download slack current [20:28] Nice move [= [20:31] clear [20:31] Nick change: yht -> Yudha_HT [20:32] nheco__ (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) joined ##slackware. [20:33] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:33] hugleo (i=1000@unaffiliated/hugleo) joined ##slackware. [20:33] thanks! [20:33] Nick change: nheco__ -> nheco [20:33] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [20:33] no worys hugleo [20:33] worries* [20:34] <|ast|_> calendar for 13.0 slack? [20:34] tomorow [20:34] tomorrow* [20:34] :p [20:35] <|ast|_> :o [20:35] nerd porn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9dpXHnJXaE [20:36] haha [20:36] certainly not sfw :p [20:36] how can one install jdk in slackware? [20:36] wrong [20:36] it comes in extra [20:37] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/extra/jdk-6/ [20:38] mshade: thats crazy :P [20:38] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [20:38] yeah [20:38] i love it [20:39] i've seen acoustic couplers before, but not from 1964 in a wooden box [20:39] mshade: yeah [20:39] antiwire, thanks ;) wrong window [20:39] <|ast|_> thrice`: news do slack 13.0? [20:39] yes, it's out tomoow [20:40] tomorrow * [20:40] awesome [20:40] thrice`: double fail. [20:40] i picked the right day to stop idling in ##slack :-D [20:40] |ast|_: of course, as with every single previous slack release, there is no schedule [20:40] <|ast|_> but as you know? [20:40] thrice`: was just about to tell you to stop being mean :p [20:41] what? [20:41] Action: thrice` is of the belief that there ARE such things as stupid questions [20:41] and stupid people [20:41] LOL [20:42] <|ast|_> thrice`: notice? [20:42] <|ast|_> ningun lado links for notice? [20:42] thrice`: There are, but they are better asked then not most often not so that they know not to do the stupid thing they may about have had done. [20:42] mshade: that's awesome [20:42] what? [20:42] who said tomorrow will come out slack 13.0? [20:42] <|ast|_> nobody reads the news... [20:42] pupit: thrice` - he was joking. [20:42] ningun lado? [20:43] aaaah.... [20:43] wtf is that? [20:43] <|ast|_> straterra: no hablo muy bien ingles... [20:43] <|ast|_> sorry... [20:43] he says, no huble will be in england.. [20:43] no hablo your language, sorry. [20:44] that's like the first carter phone [20:44] |ast|_: just keep pushing refresh until this says "slackware 13.0 is released" : http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386 [20:44] <|ast|_> agentc0re: means something like :) [20:44] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:44] |ast|_: should be up any time in the next ~5 minutes to ~50000 minutes. [20:44] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.118) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:45] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [20:45] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.118) joined ##slackware. [20:45] <|ast|_> cool! [20:45] <|ast|_> :o [20:46] Action: The-Croupier is rofl and cannot even see the screen let alone type [20:46] hah [20:47] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) joined ##slackware. [20:47] maybe if we refresh that site thrice` posted alltogether we might make the minutes get less ;) the more we are the lesser they get :p [20:47] does he say 'a gay phreakmonkey' ? [20:48] "AKA phreakmonkey" [20:49] lol [20:49] http://imagebin.org/50618 play walmart bingo [20:49] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:50] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) left irc: Client Quit [20:51] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [20:51] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [20:52] Anjo_Malvado (n=eduardo@unaffiliated/anjomalvado/x-03752) left irc: "bbl" [20:52] HellDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) joined ##slackware. [20:53] klontj (i=c721ad01@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-280e9b58749d5509) left ##slackware. [20:53] Pig_Pen: re:walmart bingo - I'm from Alabama; you all lose! haha [20:53] vvuja (n=vvuja@77-105-52-156.adsl-1.sezampro.yu) joined ##slackware. [20:53] hello [20:53] anyone with dial-up access here? [20:54] <___daniel> no i havent used a phone in years [20:54] ok [20:54] <___daniel> why dialup? [20:54] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [20:54] vvuja: you need [20:54] to type [20:54] faster [20:54] bbl [20:54] :) [20:55] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Leaving."). [20:55] ___daniel: I want to try dial-in server on Linux (radius + portslave + pppd) [20:55] so I need someone that can call my phone number [20:55] and make ppp connection [20:55] <___daniel> welll if I was rich i could help you :) [20:55] why [20:55] <___daniel> i live in a poor country called united states of america [20:55] calling from USA or Europe to Serbia is free [20:56] why [20:56] it is cheaper to call from USA to Serbia [20:56] then from Serbia to USA [20:56] <___daniel> yes but you need to have a phone line installed [20:56] <___daniel> and those are very expensive [20:56] ok [20:56] ok understand [20:56] on twitter, people are saying that Slackware 13.0 is coming out tomorrow [20:57] <___daniel> why dont you just dial up from yourself? [20:57] how true can that be? [20:57] hysterio (n=hysterio@222.68.233.220.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [20:57] lol [20:57] <___daniel> really? tomorrow? [20:57] yup [20:57] thank you [20:57] i needed to ask [20:57] <___daniel> if you have two modems [20:57] <___daniel> you can do that... [20:57] <___daniel> just bypass the dialtone [20:58] <___daniel> and set the other one to auto answer [20:58] acidchild: wake up you buttnugget [20:58] yes that's a bit of problem [20:58] ___daniel: because I need to destroy my internet access to put other modem in other linux [20:58] ___daniel: then to connect them with phone line [20:58] telephone cable [20:58] i read it on the internet so it must be true! :p [20:59] Yeah.. twitter.. that's what I'd really be listening to [20:59] [20:59] There.. I just twittered "The world ended; you're all just dreaming" [20:59] must be true [20:59] <___daniel> then get a third modem [20:59] did what thrice said actually hit twitter already? [20:59] how sad is that [21:00] Herman (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:00] what an fscking lame tool twitter is [21:00] aaaah [21:00] twitter is awesome [21:00] Herman (n=Hermann@81.170.156.174) joined ##slackware. [21:00] i wish i came up with the idea [21:00] antiwire: be careful that might end up in twitter [21:00] so i could sell it to apple for exepensiver money [21:00] antiwire: ++ [21:00] tewmten: yeah well me too but it still sucks [21:00] yeah [21:00] lol [21:00] to be honest [21:00] thrice`: way to go [21:00] Action: thrice` needs to quit assuming people are competent [21:00] who the fucking hell uses twitter? [21:00] Is it me or is Twitter just like IRC? [21:00] <___daniel> i keep forgetting wtf twitter is [21:00] itws like fucking facebook status [21:00] Action: Dominian revokes thrice`s irssi capabilities [21:00] <___daniel> is that like a myspace layout creator [21:00] itsw piece of shit [21:00] ffs [21:00] i hate it [21:01] Channel flood from tewmten -- kicking [21:01] imma kil it [21:01] tewmten kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [21:01] lol [21:01] tewmten (i=tew@gaskammare.se) joined ##slackware. [21:01] i piss on it already [21:01] pwned [21:01] lol [21:01] i will find the creator [21:01] and kill him [21:01] and his mother [21:01] Channel flood from tewmten -- kicking [21:01] then piss on his sister [21:01] tewmten kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [21:01] tewmten (i=tew@gaskammare.se) joined ##slackware. [21:01] then film it and put it on youtube [21:01] <___daniel> id do his sister [21:01] you are bad at the internet [21:01] then be rich [21:01] <___daniel> haha [21:01] ___daniel: yeah that also i will do [21:01] thrice`: fuck the internet [21:01] thrice` just started a global twitter storm of slackware proportions [21:01] who created this piece of shit [21:02] i fuck it [21:02] thrice`: subject thrice /usr/bin/irssi h [21:02] and its mother [21:02] lol [21:02] then i will go to the internets sister [21:02] and piss on her [21:02] then fuck her [21:02] haha [21:02] and film it [21:02] then put it on fucking youtube [21:02] I can read the headlines tomorrow: "someone lied on the internet!!1" [21:02] <___daniel> the internets sister? [21:02] then be ritch? [21:02] <___daniel> is she like indian [21:02] thrice`: haha [21:02] oh shit i havent been this drunk in ages [21:02] thrice`: /. [21:02] so wzup? [21:02] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [21:02] Tewmten has a Twitter Account lol [21:02] tewmten: catching acidchild on is somewhat of a gamble hehe [21:03] tewmten: I can tell you this.. he's not on irc right now [21:03] Dominian: yeah i figured :D [21:03] skibur: no i dont [21:03] Action: Dominian checked the server.. doesn't see him logged in [21:03] aight [21:03] :D [21:03] sneaky admin [21:03] Action: skibur was just checking [21:03] i fucking hate the internets today [21:04] so yesterday i was out getting hammered [21:04] BBS all the way for me [21:04] and i wake up now.. [21:04] and people on livejournal talk about it, and bitches on facebook posts pictures of it [21:04] i hate that shit [21:04] how drunk was i ???! [21:04] fuck [21:04] fuck the internets [21:04] <___daniel> i need to get laid [21:04] yeah me too [21:04] <___daniel> im 25 years old never been with a hot girl [21:04] i havent got my nuts sucked in like, over a week [21:05] SHITRyu%&/()= [21:05] <___daniel> :( [21:05] i dropped my beer on my nuts [21:05] paaaain!!! [21:05] like almost a full beer can [21:05] <___daniel> dude life sucks [21:05] yeah [21:05] Dominian: getting al lof this? [21:05] fuck [21:05] i clean it up tomorrow [21:05] lets get another beer [21:06] vvuja (n=vvuja@77-105-52-156.adsl-1.sezampro.yu) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [21:07] reading all this, i just have the need to get drunk ;) [21:07] and fuck the itnernets [21:07] oh yeah [21:07] here we go again [21:08] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:08] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [21:10] hehe [21:10] thrice`: no.. getting none of it [21:10] it's like a noobfarm novel being written for you [21:10] if this end ups on noobfarm [21:10] i will piss on noofarm [21:10] thrice`: I was thinking the same thing. [21:10] then put it on youtube [21:11] thrice`, my shit is working flawlessly. [21:11] Action: jeev smacks thrice` [21:11] haha [21:11] The-Croupier (n=ionshark@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:11] Well if anything i'm putting that on. Too bad you've already pissed yourself by spilling beer on you. [21:11] tewmten: iptables ftw [21:11] <___daniel> how do you people get laid [21:11] Dominian: haha [21:11] <___daniel> i dont understand [21:11] ___daniel: its easy [21:11] i has a g/f [21:12] <___daniel> how do you get one? [21:12] pics or not true [21:12] ___daniel: I'm actually married with a child :) [21:12] i was drunk and passed out on her boobs [21:12] thats my swedish charm [21:12] ffs... [21:12] everything i do [21:12] lmao [21:12] i do drunk [21:12] <___daniel> in america girls only want money [21:12] tewmten: translates to "lots of alcohol" doesn't it? [21:12] yeah? [21:12] <___daniel> if you dont have money , like me, you dont get laid [21:12] thrice`: Is this really happening or am i dreaming? [21:12] ___daniel: in europe girls only want the cock [21:12] holy fsck batman...you need some serious help [21:12] Action: agentc0re grabs the popcorn while it lasts [21:12] :> [21:12] ___daniel: clearly you need to come to europe [21:12] <___daniel> fuck man i want to move (back) to europe [21:12] Dominian: yes [21:13] agentc0re: im joining ya [21:13] yea [21:13] ___daniel: come bck [21:13] back [21:13] we miss you [21:13] ___daniel: how would an American get a decent job there? [21:13] Action: agentc0re passes the popcorn to compl3x [21:13] or something [21:13] don't they hate Americans? [21:13] Action: compl3x munches - cheers buddy [21:13] no [21:13] we dont hate americans [21:13] we just dont care much about them [21:13] <___daniel> im not american thankfully [21:13] its like "you american? ok.. whatever" [21:13] <___daniel> i just moved to USA wshen i was a little kid [21:13] amazon10x (n=ethanhun@liberstation.com) joined ##slackware. [21:13] ___daniel: same :) [21:13] hehe [21:13] ___daniel: well except the move to the usa [21:13] hello everyone [21:14] hey amazon10x [21:14] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:14] Action: compl3x pass's amazon10x the popcorn [21:14] ___daniel: So, you're saying you don't like America? [21:14] <___daniel> i dont know [21:14] <___daniel> im getting tired of it [21:14] I would choose your words wisely [21:14] where are you ? [21:14] (geographically) [21:14] <___daniel> i just dont like that i cant get laid here [21:14] if you live here, and dont like it, then leave.. simple as that [21:14] <___daniel> Los Angeles [21:14] <___daniel> and i cant leave [21:14] lol that's why [21:14] <___daniel> cause i have no money [21:14] ffs again! [21:14] if you can't get laid in LA you're doing it wrong [21:15] thrice`++ [21:15] word [21:15] ___daniel: steal a paddle boat.. go home tha tway [21:15] <___daniel> thrice, i have no money [21:15] <___daniel> haha [21:15] believe it or not, some people actually get it for free [21:15] i thought LA was like slut-city [21:15] bitches sucking your nuts where ever you go [21:15] ___daniel, if you're spending on the girls, your doing it wrong [21:15] If you can't get a girl to get with you in LA you are better off going to a farm and meeting a sheep. [21:15] 1) takes no money and 2) you'd be in damn good shape by the time you got home [21:15] damn thats sounds like heaven [21:15] <___daniel> tewmten : yes but they wont do it for free! [21:15] how about the same raft you floated in on? [21:15] <___daniel> i thought the same thing to [21:15] ___daniel: not all girls require money [21:15] ___daniel: always about the moneys tho [21:15] yeah [21:15] that sux [21:15] nope [21:15] <___daniel> ive been going tl clubs here in L.A> for 10 years [21:15] disagree [21:16] mathyboy (i=60ffcf8a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f2e5bb932201df61) joined ##slackware. [21:16] i dunno [21:16] well LA is your problem [21:16] i never been to america [21:16] LOL [21:16] im eurosnob [21:16] ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0 [21:16] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:16] artv61 (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:16] LA is *not* like the rest of the country at all [21:16] :D [21:16] mathyboy (i=60ffcf8a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f2e5bb932201df61) left ##slackware. [21:16] <___daniel> a lot of time girls show interest in me, ie , tell me im cute, but then they always leave suddenly [21:16] artv61 (n=artv61@u1018430.ul.warwick.net) joined ##slackware. [21:16] LA is definitely all about the money [21:16] ban that idiot [21:16] i think that any place in the US is not like the rest of it, right? [21:16] heh [21:16] ___daniel: maybe you need to get new cologne [21:16] antiwire: lol, he threw on the /random for a second. [21:16] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:16] <___daniel> nah i have good cologne [21:16] amazon10x: for the most part i guess [21:16] ___daniel: yeah? which one? [21:16] no he threw a known exploit [21:16] i go with the versace one [21:17] njan (i=james@freenode/staff/njan) joined ##slackware. [21:17] bitches love that shit [21:17] also it smells nice [21:17] njan: did you see that one? [21:17] thanks njan [21:17] ___daniel: So if you can't get laid, what venereal disease do you have? [21:17] Prodego (n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego) joined ##slackware. [21:17] <___daniel> i dont know [21:17] <___daniel> i dont have any diseases [21:17] <___daniel> ust no social skills [21:17] <___daniel> just [21:17] hm... [21:17] i know the fix for that [21:17] Jhodas (n=Jhodas@cpc4-seac20-2-0-cust262.7-2.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [21:17] it's called xanax [21:17] morning slack [21:17] <___daniel> no money for that [21:17] oh, mathyboy left lol [21:18] i was waiting for him to get killed [21:18] hi Jhodas [21:18] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-231-117.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:18] UdontKnow (i=evaldo@freenode/staff/udontknow) joined ##slackware. [21:19] what's even funnier is that it looks like Old_Fogie is susceptible to that exploit [21:19] I'm can't get slack to boot, I think im missing something basic. [21:19] heh yea [21:19] <___daniel> Jhodas: the boot sector? [21:19] Jhodas: what's your error message? [21:19] <___daniel> lol [21:19] antiwire, ? [21:19] Old_Fogie. [21:19] what windows you running [21:19] I can mount the partition from xubuntu (what im on now) but when i try and boot it from grub i get a kernel panic [21:19] heh xchat on linuxheheh [21:19] are you trying to boot the huge kernel ? [21:19] you just lost connectivity and it happened to coincide with a DCC exploit [21:19] I dont follow you antiwire , jeev [21:20] Old_Fogie: ^ [21:20] join [21:20] what router are you using? [21:20] old fogie [21:20] let me do it [21:20] well who did the DCC exploit? [21:20] lets see if you crash [21:20] thrice`, yea i think so [21:20] Old_Fogie: mathyboy [21:20] they should be perm banned for that then [21:20] Old_Fogie, join the channel i invited you to so i could paste it there [21:20] you should fix it though [21:20] ;) [21:20] Old_Fogie: they will be [21:20] ridiculous. [21:20] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:20] lots of action here tonight [21:20] lol [21:20] ___daniel: dude [21:20] i have no social skills [21:20] so you know [21:20] Old_Fogie: but you either have a crappy router, crappy firewalling software, or a crappy client [21:20] i get really drunk [21:21] it works [21:21] he logged off already [21:21] brb [21:21] <___daniel> yeah at least you have money for alcohol [21:21] ah [21:21] wtf you dont even have money for alochol? [21:21] <___daniel> where do you go thouhg, to get drunk [21:21] ___daniel: do you have job? college? [21:21] man you're fucked [21:21] what client? [21:21] <___daniel> no job [21:21] thrice`, yea its the hugesmp kernel [21:21] ___daniel: i go to the liqour shop [21:21] <___daniel> i panhandle at the 7-11 [21:21] or the pub [21:21] <___daniel> to get food [21:21] ___daniel: seriously? [21:21] dude [21:21] get a job [21:21] <___daniel> yeh:/ [21:21] alienBOB, rworkman ping. [21:21] tewmten: tonight is a wednesday night where i live. I should just go get wasted at a bar and i might come home with something warm to hug? [21:21] <___daniel> no one is hiring [21:21] <___daniel> esp. a white boy [21:21] antiwire: yeah wednesday was yesterday here [21:21] ___daniel: can't you get some kind of an IT job? [21:21] its thursday now [21:22] which means tomorrow is friday [21:22] <___daniel> amazon10x : i wish.. [21:22] which means tomorrow, on friday, i go back home to my girl [21:22] fucking hell i miss her [21:22] tewmten: so i just go to a bar and get drunk and i'll get tail [21:22] sounds freaking good [21:22] oh yeah [21:22] at least thats how it works here [21:22] in Amsterdam [21:22] <___daniel> i wish i had something warm to hug :/ [21:22] and weed is legal [21:22] woho [21:22] this is hilarious [21:22] well im not in amsterdam right now.. but i live there [21:22] ___daniel: dude, have you tried to get a tech job? [21:23] yeah fuck man.. get a tech job [21:23] <___daniel> its not even worth a try [21:23] <___daniel> no one can get tech jobs.. [21:23] i mean, if you're hanging out in ##slack, then you probably have some marketable skills [21:23] im like a unix sysadmin [21:23] <___daniel> they all require computer degrees anyway [21:23] shiiiet [21:23] <___daniel> i just have experience [21:23] i do whatever i want on my office [21:23] im the man [21:23] oh yeah [21:23] tewmten: I'm so glad I don't use the shit you work on [21:23] hahaha [21:23] lol [21:23] ___daniel, im about to get one of those :) [21:23] Action: agentc0re wonders where the popcorn went [21:23] <___daniel> thats good [21:23] Dominian: piss off.. its for banks and insurance agencies, you cant use our product because you are poor [21:23] :D [21:23] "wtf is tewmten doing... he changed all my fucking fonts to hieroglyphs!" [21:24] sorry agentc0re .. [21:24] wow, its been so long since i've actually listend to BUSH... **sigh*8 [21:24] * [21:24] eat it all [21:24] Dominian: hahaha [21:24] ___daniel: where are you located at? [21:24] <___daniel> los angeles [21:24] can anyone help me with my boot prob? [21:24] oooh tewmten and Dominian going at it! /popcorn [21:24] <___daniel> Jhodas, you need to restore the boot sector first to the original one [21:24] i picked the right time to come back from /away [21:24] : ) [21:24] hey tecky [21:24] alles goed? [21:24] ___daniel: you should send out a bajillion resumes. you're bound to land a job [21:25] hai, yah everythings good w/ meh, been busy as fsck [21:25] goin back to school and stuffs :\ [21:25] <___daniel> yeah i should [21:25] hm [21:25] <___daniel> but im too depressed [21:25] I dont think there's anything wrong with the boot sector, coz i can boot xubuntu fine (don't laugh) [21:25] <___daniel> cause i got no girl [21:25] <___daniel> and i just lie in bed depresed all day [21:25] <___daniel> no energy no motivation [21:25] ___daniel: girls are not always good seriously [21:25] <___daniel> no food [21:26] getting a job is probably the best thing you could do right now to fix that [21:26] girls = bad [21:26] <___daniel> well i dont necesarily want a girl [21:26] <___daniel> i just want to get laid a few times [21:26] ___daniel: check with these dudes, they got me, and a couple of my mates good jobs, http://www.huxley.com/ [21:26] heh Im the one who wants to stay up and talk after sex - she falls asleep - Im starting to think im the women... [21:26] ___daniel: try a blowup doll [21:26] <___daniel> then i'll be happy and be able to mov onih my lfe [21:26] ___daniel, slack will start booting, then throw a kernel panic for some reason, telling it the root line is wrong [21:26] <___daniel> instead of having suicidal fantasies [21:26] ___daniel: they good agency for finding jobs [21:26] Jhodas: well, is it ? ;) [21:26] oh shit i is drunk [21:26] haha [21:26] another beer then i sleep [21:26] /connect thelinuxlink.net [21:26] <___daniel> i have a real-size fuzzy elmo [21:27] WTF [21:27] oops [21:27] thats sick dude [21:27] pics? [21:27] :D [21:27] nope, sez "root (hd0,0)" like it should [21:27] <___daniel> i just use it to cuddle with [21:27] ___daniel: i tried that one already, doesn't work [21:27] haha [21:27] no.. [21:27] for real? :D [21:27] thrice`, exactly the same as the xubuntu line, cept thats (hd0,2) [21:27] man slackware is messed up tonight :| [21:27] so, your slackware's root is on /dev/hda1 ? [21:27] or sda1 [21:27] sda1 [21:28] ___daniel: Might be able to hook you up with this phat tight ass right here if you want, http://tinyurl.com/cg6d9s [21:28] my partitions are backwards :) [21:28] compl3x: You owe me a beer for eating all the popcorn! ;) [21:28] I bet that links to meatspin... ^^ [21:28] well, if you're sure it's /dev/sda1, that should be right, I think (though I suck at grub) [21:28] agentc0re: *burrrrp* another day :p [21:28] Jhodas: I'll take that bet. :D [21:28] agentc0re: oh dude she is indeed fat [21:28] in a bad way [21:28] nheco__ (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) joined ##slackware. [21:28] hugleo (i=1000@unaffiliated/hugleo) left ##slackware. [21:29] I LIKE BIG BUTTS AND I CANNOT LIE ALL YOU BROTHERS CANT DENY [21:29] *nananaanaaaa* [21:29] im missing the initrd as well [21:29] fuck the initrd [21:29] and its sister [21:29] you don't need it for the hugesmp kernel [21:29] nheco__ (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:29] then piss on its sister [21:30] and put it on youtube [21:30] stfu for actual slackware issues plz, GG [21:30] i need another cigarette brb [21:30] ___daniel: Maybe this one? She's got a nack for opening up your beer bottle with no hands, so guess what that means for you? :D :D [21:30] http://tinyurl.com/ao9uh8 [21:30] thrice`: hahaha [21:30] agentc0re: dude wtf are you smoking meth or what? shiiiieet [21:31] tewmten: Just trying to find a match for ___daniel. He needs help. I thought I'd start in his playing field. [21:31] lol wtf [21:31] <___daniel> well im not looking for girls with missing body parts [21:31] no? [21:31] i dont mind [21:31] shiet [21:31] i'd fuck a gimp [21:32] as long as she got ass, titties and mouth [21:32] and a pussy [21:32] brb cigarett [21:32] <___daniel> i just want a cute girl to cuddle with [21:32] <___daniel> i am not really lookiong for sex [21:32] dude. [21:32] antiwire: wow... [21:32] i know what you mean dude [21:32] brb cigarette [21:32] you gotta get a job man [21:32] you will not be able to cuddle for long without wanting sex [21:32] what should my grub kernel line be? currently: "kernel /boot/vmlinuz" [21:33] job -> girl [21:33] <___daniel> true [21:33] seriously, just write up a sick cover letter, and get a list of like 100 company emails and send it out [21:33] you'll cuddle up to that warm body and instantly become aroused [21:34] antiwire: orly [21:34] :P [21:34] man you can certainly smell the testosterone in here 2nite... [21:34] Jhodas: +1 [21:34] http://vogons.zetafleet.com/files/orly.jpg [21:34] but like i said, the body needs to be warm for that to happen [21:36] I'm waiting for someone to join and shout 'I have boobs!!' and immediately get lynched [21:38] Action: compl3x hands agentc0re the popcorn and a crate of bear - enjoy! [21:38] stacy__ (i=amazon10@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-86facc47bba4fdad) joined ##slackware. [21:38] night all [21:38] i have boobs!!! [21:38] Action: compl3x claps [21:38] yay [21:38] While some of us may have boobs, they're most likely of the manly kind. [21:38] nite dude [21:38] haha [21:38] compl3x (n=eddie@43.103.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "laters" [21:38] lol [21:39] Eurotrash: you've seen my photos [21:39] jk [21:39] eagleheart (n=lxer1@adsl-158-177-96.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [21:39] maybe [21:39] stacy__ (i=amazon10@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-86facc47bba4fdad) left ##slackware. [21:39] hah hah [21:39] hitests is definitely more than two handfuls [21:39] hehe [21:40] eww man nipple [21:40] ewww male mammary glands [21:40] lol [21:41] man [21:42] 0ki [21:42] io [21:42] i go sleep now [21:42] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OkcucXIuVI FamilyGuy [21:42] bbl [21:42] k [21:42] tewmten: lol bai : ) [21:43] what the deuce [21:43] but first another beer [21:43] brb [21:43] by bear he meals another run with the cybian or whatever [21:43] no [21:43] i mean another beer [21:43] it says on the can [21:43] BEER [21:43] hehe [21:43] because i was looking for my glasses [21:44] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [21:44] so i opened my bag [21:44] and it was full of beer [21:44] success! [21:44] that's not beer, it's mexican piss [21:45] no man [21:45] swedish piss [21:45] but it has alcomahol [21:45] Prodego_ (n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego) joined ##slackware. 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[21:56] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) got lost in the net-split. [21:56] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:56] anyone know how to force xrandr to ignore the edid info? [21:57] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [21:57] yosii (n=yosi@ool-18bc0302.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [21:58] brb, gonna try and boot slack [21:58] Action: Jhodas crosses fingers [21:58] Jhodas (n=Jhodas@cpc4-seac20-2-0-cust262.7-2.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: "Leaving" [21:58] isnt nix_chix0r from Minnesota? 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[22:03] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-177-246-47-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [22:03] edman007 (n=edman007@unaffiliated/edman007) left irc: Success [22:03] Pig_Pen: thanks, will try that [22:05] Nick change: Prodego_ -> prodego [22:07] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-178-11.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:08] Heya,folks....How's everyone? [22:08] Hey MLanden, doing excellent, thanks. How are you? [22:08] bbl.....supper:) [22:08] Doin' great for evening,firebird619..Thanks for asking [22:09] you're welcome. [22:09] hitest: enjoy your supper. :) [22:09] Razec (n=razec@187-27-232-131.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [22:12] Pig_Pen: http://pastebin.com/m35436bc6 [22:12] pacman87_: i have a 26 inch LCD HDTV for a monitor, it does not give out any edid info and without those lines in xorg.conf it wont work [22:13] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:13] Rat409__ (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [22:13] fglrx ati? i bet you need to find what forces that drive to ignore edid, i use nvidia [22:14] are you not getting the desired screen resolution & refresh rate? [22:15] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-259718.html check this pacman87_ [22:15] How are you Pig_Pen? [22:16] Pig_Pen: i have a 1680x1050 LCD and a dell CRT [22:16] and i know the crt can run at 72.2 kHz vsync [22:16] but the edid only says 70 kHz [22:17] pacman87_: what video card do you have? [22:17] i am doing good firebird619, how are you doing? [22:17] Evenin', Pig_Pen [22:17] firebird619: radeon hd 4850 [22:18] Pig_Pen: doing great, thank you. [22:19] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:19] Option "IgnoreEDID" "on" [22:19] pacman87_: ok. I'm using nvidia, as Pig_Pen is, and I too had to add a line to get the proper resolution, etc. It took alot of searching to find out what to use. [22:20] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/ati-driversfglrx-refresh-rate-problem-420958/ here is another possible solution, i like this one better than that ubuntu forum [22:21] rwaters (n=rwaters@c-98-230-11-174.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:21] Pig_Pen: is that a special character after "Option"? [22:21] irssi gives me an "I" with a white background [22:21] pacman87_: No just a tab [22:21] pacman87_: no it isn't. [22:21] ignore that [22:22] I get those once in a while too. [22:22] Option "IgnoreEDID" "on" [22:22] ok, i've already tried that option, and fglrx ignores it [22:22] a paste flubb caused that [22:22] just checking [22:22] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:24] amazon10x (n=ethanhun@liberstation.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:24] Pig_Pen: i didn't see a 'solution' on that last link... [22:24] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:25] darn, seems like both ati & nvidia would test their drivers better on oddball monitors that do not give edid [22:25] Rat409_ (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: Success [22:26] i had to search for that info i put in to mine becuase both nvidia-xconfig and X -configure did not see it [22:26] frullet (n=hooch@124-171-59-81.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [22:26] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left irc: Connection timed out [22:26] Hi frullet, how are you? [22:26] doin well buddy yourself [22:26] doing great, thank you. :) [22:27] pacman87_: what model radeon card is that again? [22:27] Pig_Pen: same here. For me with the monitor (which has vga and dvi) nvidia drivers got native perfectly out-of-the-box over vga, but I needed that line in xorg.conf for dvi to work. [22:28] Pig_Pen: radeon hd 4850 [22:28] firebird619: With dvi,was it pretty much hit or miss? [22:28] i still cant get dvi to work, i have one of those custom dvi to hdmi cables too [22:28] losers [22:29] MLanden: with dvi, it wouldn't get native resolution at all without adding a line to xorg.conf, but with vga, it picked up native resolution every time without any issues. [22:29] firebird619: OK [22:29] Nick change: edman007_ -> edman007 [22:29] hey edman007 [22:29] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-66-243-248-134.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:29] hi [22:30] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:30] laters sleepytime for me, 5AM comes early [22:30] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:31] i think i'm going to try restarting X with the CRT unplugged [22:32] pacman87_: good luck. :) [22:35] Wow, and we think we are advanced. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2oc6HQ3rHQ&NR=1 [22:36] firebird619, in FL the sun is up crazy late, sunset is like 845pm or so... [22:36] wow, I guess. must be nice to have all that daylight though. [22:36] yea, its nice [22:37] You enjoyin' yourself,edman007? [22:37] Go to Alaska for more sun. I was there one year and the sun was still out at 11pm [22:37] sun wasn't out at all today. It was rainy and dreary all day. [22:37] MLanden, oh yea :) [22:37] agentc0re: can I see Russia from my house there? :P [22:37] edman007: good to hear [22:37] firebird619, we get thunderstorms every day, but never during the day [22:37] firebird619: hahah. Only from her house while you bang her daughter :P [22:38] :O [22:38] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [22:38] edman007: I usually don't pay attention much, but I just looked online and sunset here was 8:57. [22:38] Wow that octopus is soo cool though. [22:38] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:41] rignes (n=rignes@216-164-160-133.c3-0.atw-ubr3.atw.pa.static.cable.rcn.com) left irc: "leaving" [22:41] agentc0re: kinda reminds me of that commercial they have for Visa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OC5_wJLxZU [22:41] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:41] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Client Quit [22:43] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.118) left irc: "Saliendo" [22:44] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.118) joined ##slackware. [22:47] root (i=proxyuse@mail.bluechips.co.th) joined ##slackware. [22:47] Hi all [22:47] Nick change: root -> Guest54014 [22:47] i use slackware [22:47] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:47] so do we [22:48] how to enable Gssapi [22:48] on slackware 12.2 [22:48] i am new [22:48] I'd say google probably has the answers you're looking for [22:49] Hey Dominian, how are you? [22:49] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:49] firebird619: good.. you? [22:49] Guest54014: http://tinyurl.com/p4e8xy [22:49] Dominian: doing great, thank you. :) [22:50] in the process of installing openSUSE 11.1 PPC on this iMac G3 [22:50] Dominian: Ah. I'm on osol right now. :P [22:50] Installed it to a 40 GB hdd I have. [22:51] back. yummy.......had pork chops for dinner:) [22:51] Mmmmm [22:51] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "I'm outta here! Later!" [22:51] firebird619: osol? [22:51] Dominian: OpenSolaris [22:51] gm152 (n=glen@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:52] any good? [22:52] hitest: that makes the grilled cheese (mozarella cheese) I had sound like nothing. :P [22:52] firebird619: ahhh [22:52] hitest: yes, very good imo [22:52] I have that installed in a VM [22:52] haven't messed with it much though [22:52] Dominian: I did too, then it broke. :P [22:53] firebird619: cool. I'll take a look. [22:53] thank you [22:53] Guest54014 (i=proxyuse@mail.bluechips.co.th) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [22:53] Was going to use qemu and install it through that and store it on the 40 GB and thought, what the heck, why not just install it to the hdd. :) [22:54] hitest: cool. I'd certainly recommend it. Of course I love slack as well, but this is very nice. [22:54] gnome is the default de btw. [22:54] downloading now [22:54] awesome [22:55] OpenSolaris is quite interesting to mess around with [22:55] fwiw, it does take a while for it to start, once installed, that's just the way it is, but once it starts, it's great. [22:55] briareus_ (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Success [22:55] MLanden: yes, it is very nice. [22:57] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [22:57] ktorrent fired-up......coming in pretty well [22:57] yeah, I got it via torrent as well, went quite fast. [22:57] for install, it's a live environment. [22:58] yeah I see that, that'll give me a chance to see if it recognizes all my stuff [22:59] yeah. fwiw, my mouse and sound don't work out of the box, but I'm sure those a an easy fix away from working. [22:59] s/a/are/ [22:59] With the different distros, it's also a good learning curve on how they see the various devices as well [23:00] yeah, learning the difference ways, etc. is fun. [23:01] firebird619: usb mouse issues again? I'll probably encounter the same thing as well [23:01] topgun21_ (n=topgun17@adsl-146-41-189.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [23:01] xfce for OpenSolaris can be found here: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/xfce/ [23:01] hitest: yeah, but a corded usb mouse worked fine. The wireless one didn't. [23:01] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] firebird619: heh is that like "we can't give you CDE, so something that started as a clone of CDE should do for you"? ;) [23:02] ah......good to know....thanks. I'll try it in qemu after I run it as a live cd [23:03] hitest: have fun with it. [23:03] take care,folks...talk with all later..:D [23:04] later MLanden [23:04] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-178-11.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [23:04] BP{k}: heh, possibly. [23:04] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:05] firebird619: ty, will do:) [23:05] Action: BP{k} actually kinda liked CDE [23:06] I've never used CDE, but just found out from yosii that it's being eol'ed. [23:06] What's the replacement? [23:06] Action: Motoko-chan used CDE under VMS [23:07] not sure about a replacement. [23:07] it's being EOL'ed on sun [23:07] not sure on other systems [23:08] what is it a "C based Desktop Environment"? ;) [23:08] jescis, Common Desktop Environment...not a GNU-ism [23:09] ah common... I like it if it was C for the language like tcsh >.> [23:09] jescis, unlike the linux we're used to, it is commercial software which makes microsoft's EULA look open [23:10] ah... those basturds!! [23:11] jescis, we were discussing solaris in another channel, and found out that CDE is not going to be in solaris 11 [23:11] i doubt motif will even be there [23:11] hhmmm [23:11] jessica. [23:12] btw, motif is the commercial descendant of the same code that created fvwm [23:12] jeev, just get over it! :( [23:12] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:12] cde is a desktop that sits on top of motif [23:13] heh [23:13] jeev, you need to drink less ;P [23:14] i dont drink haha [23:14] and recallibrate your brain cells >.> [23:15] sun uses Java D.E. afaik [23:15] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) left irc: "Saindo" [23:15] frankS2 (i=nobody@algorit.me) left ##slackware. [23:15] nheco (n=nheco@unaffiliated/nheco) joined ##slackware. [23:16] jeev, not even water or cola? :o [23:16] Rat409__, that would be correct. [23:16] xfce is probably the closest "open" CDE clone around under development [23:17] rather solaris does the opensolaris live/install disk uses gnome last time i tested it,blousy hw detection tho least when i tested it [23:17] hehe [23:17] water rulez [23:17] juan--d-_-b (n=juan--d-@unaffiliated/juan--d--b/x-561435) left irc: "chao pajudos =P" [23:18] jeev, duh, we're all 98% of it ;P [23:18] Rat409__: Yes, it uses gnome, and my mouse and sound don't work atm, but other than that, very nice. [23:18] yuh think my prob was network [23:19] iirc [23:19] The last OpenSolaris CD breaks on my laptops. [23:19] audiohd = broken [23:19] Or was it hdaudio? [23:19] my ethernet card doesn't work with it neither :( [23:19] I'll try it out, see ifit works:) [23:20] if it [23:21] hitest, cool new word... ifit. What does it mean? ;D [23:21] heh [23:22] personally, was considering getting an as/400 for my needs, but see that a bladeserver would do the job better [23:22] jescis: That can be found in the 2009 revision of the hitest dictionary. Look for it late fall. [23:22] god i hate the lakers [23:22] firebird619, HAHAHA [23:23] lol [23:24] I ownder if 11 will have decent SATA controller support. [23:25] moshe (n=moshe@c-71-199-97-183.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:26] exbio (n=exi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [23:26] bbiab [23:26] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:26] according to osol's device driver utility, my sound driver is missing [third party] :) [23:27] gm152, I wonder when the world realizes that they got played by microsoft >.> Especially IBM >.> [23:27] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:27] wb hitest [23:27] ty [23:28] hitest: (22:25:52) firebird619: according to osol's device driver utility, my sound driver is missing [third party] :) [23:28] hello again hitest ^^ [23:28] gonna burn the cd and boot it up on my other computer [23:28] awesome [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] burning now:) [23:30] hi jescis [23:30] anyone good with apache? [23:31] jeev, I've used it before :) [23:31] debuggin ? [23:32] depends on the problem [23:33] can't get it to do what you want or something? [23:33] it's a high traffic site [23:33] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:33] after a few minutes [23:33] i moved it to a better box, after a few minutes [23:33] telnet www.site.com 80 [23:33] just sits at connecting [23:33] pics dont load, they tmieout [23:34] looke like 60% works [23:34] no errors [23:34] the address is setup correctly and such? [23:35] yea [23:35] how's the permissions? [23:35] good [23:35] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-72-224-240-11.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:35] it works then borks. [23:38] I used links and it comes up with nothing but refresh: /main/index.htm :\ [23:39] hiptobecubic (n=john@cpe-075-178-020-245.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Connection timed out [23:39] vald0r (n=matt@stjhnf0131w-142162012091.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:39] http://www.ultimatepccooling.com/depf12inspfa.html [23:40] 7160 RPM [23:40] 252.85 CFM [23:41] jeev, after fallowing the refresh link the site(with no pictures since I can't get the graphics to work yet) the page showes up :\ [23:42] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-75-38-52-124.dsl.snantx.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:43] what site are you talking about [23:43] heh [23:44] jeev, your site www.site.com [23:44] slKIvs (n=ivan@190.148.84.2) joined ##slackware. [23:46] on the text only links it works fine as I see it. Except for having to fallow the refresh link when I first ran it. :\ [23:47] KyNDeR (n=kynder@187-4-120-251.bsaco701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [23:47] Nick change: nheco -> nheco_ [23:47] Which tells me something *is* wrong. But fixable with an edit of the config file for apache. [23:47] Nick change: nheco_ -> nheco__ [23:47] ivan8013 (n=ivan@190.148.84.2) joined ##slackware. [23:48] Nick change: nheco__ -> nheco [23:49] jeev, I'd also ask someone in #apache(or is it ##apache) to be sure though :\ [23:50] Action: jescis couldn't telnet because he didn't install itafair >.> [23:51] slKIvs (n=ivan@190.148.84.2) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:51] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:52] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:53] Thursap (n=bnguyen@113.22.115.64) joined ##slackware. [23:53] httpd, thumbs was there but he's afk [23:56] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [23:56] exbio (n=efzaexbi@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: Client Quit [23:56] t4k3r0n (n=takeron@189.186.43.118) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:57] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:57] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [23:58] back:) [23:58] hitest, wb :) [23:58] hitest: wb [23:58] jeev, I mean if www.site.com in a text only web browser gives a page to refresh and typing www.site.com/main/index.htm gives the page then I beleive it's the part of the httpd configuration file that's the problem >.> [23:59] jon_doh (n=jon_doh@cpe-76-187-1-174.tx.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [23:59] ty, guys:) tried loading osol on one of my boxes......crash and burn, lol:) loading it in qemu now on my main box [23:59] i'm bored [23:59] haha, what happened? 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