[00:00] wtf is a cue file good for? [00:00] and a big flac? [00:00] i think they are for burning disc images [00:01] zaltekk: ok... [00:01] cue/bin [00:01] mancha: any way to quickly separate it into songs? [00:01] or splitting one big audio file into seperate tracks. eg. a mixed cd [00:01] nyredneck, you can use a virtual mounter [00:03] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:09] danc3 (danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) left ##slackware ("Gone to do something useful!"). [00:09] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.226.207.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [00:09] puffybsd (puffy@cpe-24-164-168-183.hvc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. 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Can't get scroll to work in firefox 2 . Any ideas? [00:21] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-14-233.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [00:21] andarius (~andarius@c-24-98-241-160.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: some tings just make me feel icky, like work [00:22] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:23] do the buttons on the mouse work? does 'xev' show them as producing button presses? [00:24] yes mouse all works except scroll [00:24] xev? brb [00:25] yes all work except scroll [00:25] divel (~daniel@183.84.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. 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[00:58] everytime I xorgcfg and change the mouse, the xorg.conf.new always goes to Option "Protocol" "auto" [00:58] Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" [00:58] anyone seen this error? -> Web Images Videos Maps News Shopping Mail more ¼ [00:58] Books Finance Translate Scholar Blogs Updates [00:58] YouTube Calendar Photos Documents Reader Sites Groups [00:58] even more » [00:58] Google Translate [00:59] From: [00:59] Portuguese [00:59] ¼ [00:59] To: [00:59] English [00:59] ¼ [00:59] Translate text or webpage [00:59] Type text or a website address or translate a document. [00:59] faik++ [00:59] Cancel [00:59] Listen [00:59] Portuguese to English translation [00:59] anyone seen this error? [00:59] Listen [00:59] Read phonetically [00:59] Dictionary - View detailed dictionary [00:59] Translate over 50 languages [00:59] * m * Wie spät ist es? * Pardon ?? * dti * @>AB8B5 * ¿Cómo estás? * !5*5*1 * Langweilig * #-( C1) 'DB/E * miracoloso * haydi gidelim * Je parle un petit peu français. * Ich bin vierzig Jahre alt * Buongiorno Principessa! * Wie bitte? *  .G0> (M.&?( 9H. * Hjelp! * Je ne sais pas ! * La voiture * À±Á±»¯± * nazdar! * Vær så snill * Wie gehts? * ,(Mठ[00:59] mijn vriend * s° tí * éÞ× * 9 />0! * 3D-A') * UˆFj‰ * escargots * hoje está ensolarado * Es ist sehr interessant! * rouge [00:59] Do more with Google Translate [00:59] Action: rheault wonders what this has to do with Slackware. [00:59] * Search for the world's best pizza recipes, in Italian! Unleash the power of Google's Translated Search. * Search for the world's best sushi recipes, in Japanese! Unleash the power of Google's Translated Search. * Curious which Greek beaches are the best? Learn from the locals with Google's Translated Search. [00:59] * What's that word agan? Install Google Toolbar and never be stumped by foreign vocabularby again. [01:00] Google Translate for my:SearchesVideosEmailPhoneChatBusiness [01:00] About Google TranslateTurn off instant translationPrivacyHelp [01:00] ©2010Business ToolsAbout Google TranslateBlogShare your storyPrivacyHelp [01:00] Recently used: [01:00] Portuguese > English [01:00] English > Portuguese [01:00] English > Indonesian [01:00] Afrikaans [01:00] Albanian [01:00] Arabic [01:00] Armenian [01:00] Azerbaijani [01:00] Basque [01:00] Belarusian [01:00] Bulgarian [01:00] Catalan [01:00] Chinese (Simplified) [01:00] Chinese (Traditional) [01:00] Croatian [01:00] Czech [01:00] Danish [01:00] Dutch [01:00] slackboy: we have a flooder [01:00] English [01:01] Estonian [01:01] Filipino [01:01] Finnish [01:01] wtf? [01:01] French [01:01] Galician [01:01] Georgian [01:01] German [01:01] Greek [01:01] Haitian Creole [01:01] Hebrew [01:01] Hindi [01:01] Hungarian [01:01] Icelandic [01:01] Indonesian [01:01] lol [01:01] Irish [01:01] Italian [01:01] Japanese [01:01] Korean [01:01] Latvian [01:01] Lithuanian [01:01] Macedonian [01:01] Malay [01:01] rworkman and his ban message for the win hopefully. [01:01] Maltese [01:01] Norwegian [01:02] Persian [01:02] Polish [01:02] Portuguese [01:02] Romanian [01:02] It must be rate-controlled, so as to defeat slackboy's flood kick. [01:02] Russian [01:02] Serbian [01:02] Slovak [01:02] Slovenian [01:02] Spanish [01:02] Swahili [01:02] Swedish [01:02] Thai [01:02] Turkish [01:02] Ukrainian [01:02] Urdu [01:02] Vietnamese [01:02] Welsh [01:02] sorry [01:02] i pressed a wrong button here [01:02] :( [01:02] oh well, I'm off to bed anyway [01:03] estranho: some irc clients have anti-accidental paste protection. hint irssi [01:03] estranho: even if someone could help, your stupidity pretty much rendered that option non-existent. on the bright side, you _did_ learn something [01:05] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:06] I apologize again. [01:06] MLanden (~MLanden@pool-141-152-152-4.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:07] sahko: i'm using irssi [01:07] then you have no excuse :p [01:09] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [01:11] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [01:12] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:12] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [01:14] rheault (~rheault@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:17] anyone seen this problem? siocsifflags unknown error 132 [01:19] no but i do have a problem with google translating esperanto to irish [01:20] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@pool-71-254-176-19.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [01:21] Kosty (~john@c-98-219-58-113.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:21] sid77 (~sid77@andromeda.slackware.it) joined ##slackware. [01:33] Jedman (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/jedman) left irc: Quit: Damn, WTF happened in 98 [01:36] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-30-198.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [01:41] pardon asking again but.... why does X put my Monitor and harddrive to sleep when Ctrl+Alt+Backspace'd ? Anyone know the Option to disable this "feature" ? [01:44] That shouldn't do that. That combo kills X. [01:44] it does kill X , but then the devices go to sleep until i press the keyboard [01:44] Potentially, the screen is in a mode where it won't display what is on the console. I've seen that with binary-only drivers. [01:45] you can hear the hard drive go to sleep, and then "thunk" when i press the keyboard to wake it back up [01:45] Weird is all I can say. Never ever have I run into that. [01:47] is there an # Xorg related channel on freenode? [01:47] n /m #xorg :) [01:49] huh? cannnot send to #xorg .. but chan modes are . +nt ? [01:50] http://www.x.org/wiki/XorgIRC [01:52] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [01:53] toothkit: any hints with xorg's log? [01:54] sftp (~sftp@79.174.50.208) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:55] Mlanded; not that I can see.. It doesn't "seem" to be a bug or crash. Its just annoying. [01:56] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [01:57] toothkit: ok...weird...can you change the resolution? [01:58] Mlanded; in xorgcfg or manually? haven't tried. lemme check [01:58] toothkit: manually [01:59] toothkit: and check to see if there's a "spike" in memory [01:59] Mlanded: I can change resolutions while running X so far with the display applet [01:59] brb [02:00] weird....something don't seem right with ACPI [02:03] Mlanded: Yes I can change resolutions. Memory spikes from 194M -> 231M. I do not have any APM or ACPI compiled in kernel. Its kernel 2.4.35 and is running slack 10.2 [02:04] paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep [02:04] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [02:05] could this be a bios bug? [02:05] PenPerk (~carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] tried it again with the new hiresolution. and same thing. [02:07] toothkit: ok...might be something with the bios or something physical [02:10] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!puff*@cpe-24-164*.hvc.res.rr.com expired. [02:10] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!puff*@cpe-24-164*.hvc.res.rr.com' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [02:10] toothkit: do you hear that "clunk" when you try and mount anything else...cdroms,for example [02:10] no [02:11] only time i've ever heard or experienced is ctrl+alt+backspace while running /etc/rc.d/rc.4 [02:11] lancel00t (~lancel00t@96-42-14-254.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [02:12] and the monitor's led goes orange like DPMS, but DPMS is nowhere in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf [02:16] erk (~MrEd@about/apple/iPod/BeZerk) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:19] toothkit: ok....in the kernel log,any dma status fails? [02:21] Gimped (~Gimped@adsl-75-30-224-94.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [02:22] Mlanded: nope. I'm 99% sure this is good and compatible hardware. Never had any (sleeping) problems with other OS either. [02:24] jeev_ (~jeev@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. 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[03:45] AndrewR: Mlanded thinks its a Bios glitch also [03:46] i always turn off Power managment in bios .. wonder if there is a kernel-parameter to force it off [03:46] noacpi? [03:47] toothkit, then, if you already tried to on/off every thing related to power management in bios .... i have no idea. What kind of video card you have ? [03:47] Action: mrcarrot shudders [03:47] integrated Sis630 [03:48] Lalloso (8a843669@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.132.54.105) joined ##slackware. [03:48] a customers computer is having problem that i do not even know how to solve [03:48] mrcarrot: how bad? [03:48] it is acting like you would yank out the power cord from it after a short time in use [03:48] changing power supply is not helping [03:49] completely dying... [03:49] im grepping 2.4.35/Documentation apm for any secret configs other than apm=off [03:49] toothkit, wow ... does changing video driver to vesa helps? If yes - it can really have something with video driver /X.... [03:51] mrcarrot: maybe a bad capacitor or a resistor on the mobo? [03:51] toothkit, sis is not as widely used as other drivers ... but really, i was always thinking power mamagement and VGA devices are well separated.... [03:52] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Quit: reboot [03:52] AndreR: VESA did the same :| [03:53] toothkit, system power management, not just card itself. (in case of integrated sis i don't even know if it can do anything .... with itself.) Hm. Ok ..... just pressing same seq in console does nothing, right? [03:54] MLanden: i am suspecting it... of those models of Fujitsu-Siemens we have had a lot of trouble the latest time [03:54] _RadioHead (~slack@82.114.94.249) joined ##slackware. [03:54] i will try a live cd to verify that it is not the os that has been crapping out [03:54] pressing same sequence? what do you mean.. [03:55] yea [03:55] yes [03:55] toothkit, ctrl-alt-bs in console. [03:55] dive (~diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [03:55] oh [03:55] toothkit, really, oh :/ Any fb driver in use ? [03:55] AndrewR: !!! it did it without X [03:56] why didnt i think of trying taht first [03:56] sis630 framebuffer i beleive, lemme check [03:57] sisfb, yes [03:57] toothkit, try without it ...if you can [03:58] il do some searching now that i know its not X.. damn chasing ghosts :( [03:58] mrcarrot: good luck....helped a friend on a mobo swap after seeing the capacitors on the old one that had major bulging [03:58] toothkit, also try from runlevel 1, or even from init=bin/bash (only bash/shell running) [03:58] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) joined ##slackware. [03:58] can I remap ctrl alt backspace to something else for killing X? [03:59] toothkit, in new X - i think yes ... but new there - xserver 1.8 or something like this ... your setup seems to be not as new [04:00] the capacitors are actually having a bump so i also suspect them... well hopefully we will get to sell a computer... but when the customer is the local municipality i am not having much hope [04:00] a known issue On some SiS based motherboards the combination Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will cause a power off, or puts the machine in power save mode. (Reported for SiS 630 and for SiS645DX.) [04:01] mrcarrot: any bad smell? [04:01] nope [04:01] AndrewR: hey, thanks for your patience & time [04:01] lamah_ (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [04:01] lamah_ (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Client Quit [04:02] in windows it is booting until the login screen... then sometimes you have time to log in. most of the time not [04:02] toothkit, heh, thanks, if i ever come close to those - i'll be prepared. No problem, i rarely did something useful, so .... [04:04] mrcarrot: hmmm...any heat? [04:06] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:06] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [04:07] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) joined ##slackware. [04:07] oobe (~thingo@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Changing host [04:07] oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) joined ##slackware. [04:09] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:09] why does bios override the linux ? [04:09] kernel [04:09] Alt_of_Ctrl (~Inacio@a85-139-198-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [04:10] the kernel is not really the supreme master in charge? [04:10] not as i notice, MLanden [04:10] ashe (~ashe@125.166.167.35) left irc: Quit: leaving [04:12] or are we dealing with a non real computer... sis630 is really a hypervisor ? [04:13] mrcarrot: ok...that's a good sign,it was caught early by the bios [04:14] bitlord (~bitlord@unaffiliated/bitlord) joined ##slackware. [04:16] toothkit, i think coreboot git can have something about sis630 itself ... but BIOS can be different. I know some BIOSes overwrite low memory (first 64 kb). From kernel config .... [04:17] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5579.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [04:19] AndrewR: is this related to LinBios ? [04:19] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5579.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [04:22] Kaapa (~Something@a95-93-242-251.cpe.netcabo.pt) joined ##slackware. [04:22] toothkit, yes. http://flashrom.org/trac/coreboot/browser/trunk/LinuxBIOSv1/src/northsouthbridge/sis/630/630_regs.inc?rev=182 [04:22] toothkit, but i guess you need full docs ... [04:23] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [04:25] AndrewR: ty . this is going to be interesting. 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[05:00] yht (~yht@118.96.121.225) joined ##slackware. [05:00] xdan779 (~daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: [05:02] Nick change: Zordrak_ -> Zordrak [05:03] nvision (~nvision@g231184184.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [05:03] nvision (~nvision@g231184184.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Changing host [05:03] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [05:07] yht (~yht@118.96.121.225) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:09] yht (~yht@118.96.121.225) joined ##slackware. [05:13] hey guys, i'm considerign buying a new monitor, and have a dual DVI graphics card... the monitor i have my eye on is dual HDMI.. i'm not sure about runnign it through a convertor [05:13] is it worth going for a DVI monitor, or does anyone run decent displays from HDMI output to DVI input without problems? [05:14] i do have a current DVI, which i will run dual with the new HDMI one [05:14] any potential issues i should be aware of ? [05:15] phrag: what's the compatibility of the monitor? http://www.hdmi.org/learningcenter/faq.aspx [05:16] yht (~yht@118.96.121.225) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:18] yht (~yht@118.96.121.225) joined ##slackware. [05:22] that's a handy link, thanks MLanden [05:22] it's http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003THMM98?qid=1285576397 [05:22] seems like fully backward compatible [05:23] phrag: yw....hope it's a sweet find...:) [05:23] ang (~ang@ip24-250-16-162.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [05:31] Action: logia_th is back (gone 00:01:10) [05:31] Action: logia_th is away: going to Sukkah... [05:31] Action: slava_dp stares at slackboy [05:32] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [05:32] yht (~yht@118.96.121.225) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:33] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:33] asteroid (~asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) joined ##slackware. [05:36] Wondering if anyone can sanity check the following assertion for me: [05:36] When configuring VLANs with multiple managed switches, if there is to be no sharing of uplink ports such that each switch completely separates the VLANs on a port-basis, there should be no need to tag anything at all - just make sure the right ports are connected to each other and members of the right VLAN. [05:37] i.e. Switch 1 connects to switch 2 via ports 1 and 4 - and 1,2,3 are port-VLAN1 and 4,5,6 are port-VLAN2 [05:38] samfisher (~unaffilia@193.239.140.132) joined ##slackware. [05:38] samfisher (~unaffilia@193.239.140.132) left irc: Changing host [05:38] samfisher (~unaffilia@unaffiliated/samfisher) joined ##slackware. [05:38] hello everybody [05:39] Hi. If an attacker manages to gain access to my system, i should see that in the connection list (see the IP)? [05:39] samfisher: only for the time they are connected [05:39] samfisher: if access is gained via a UDP exploit and further managed via UDP, and only via the smallest of packets - you'd be lucky to see anything [05:40] hmmm [05:40] never heard of udp exploits [05:40] Action: mrcarrot thinks security problems will be exploited in switches in a near future as managed switches are becomming more common [05:42] scriptkiddies are everywhere [05:42] many switches are running linux and never gets patched as long as they are working [05:42] mrcarrot: switches? isn't that like saing the same about nowadays routers? [05:43] of course, samfisher [05:43] we have already been seeing adsl routers getting hacked too... [05:44] but i find it harder to be done [05:44] the only reasonable response to all this evil is to shut off the intartubes. [05:44] scriptkiddies moslty use metasploit and some win spy apps [05:44] i am at least running a software firewall on my home server in case my modem router is getting hacked [05:45] mrcarrot: and isn't that uncomfortable? you have to open ports both in the firewall and router if you wann use vnc for example [05:46] i only have ssh on a very odd port open... all other trafic i am tunneling through ssh [05:47] when i was running ssh on 22 i had alot of scriptkiddies trying to log in [05:47] one log filled each day [05:47] after that i changed port and it dropped to 0 [05:48] i'm doing that also, but i also have a mixed lan, both physical and virtual and i need the accessible by rdp [05:48] also port 80 and 443 are usable [05:49] so ssh tunneling isn't always the answer [05:52] i agree, ssh tunneling is not for everybody... it is only good if you want to access something yourself but nobody else will access anything [05:52] a webserver through ssh tunneling would for example be ridiculous [05:54] it was an article on slashdot, i think, that showed how it is possible with javascript to hack modems... that means that i just need to be tricked to visit a bad site and somebody will own my modem... [05:54] i think the same will be applied to switches etc.... [05:55] of course that hack required the modem to have standard passwords and usernames [05:55] but the concept is interesting and scary [05:56] yht (~yht@118.96.121.225) joined ##slackware. [06:00] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:01] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210071254.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [06:01] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210071254.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Changing host [06:01] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:01] http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/07/16/122259/Millions-of-Home-Routers-Are-Hackable [06:02] it was not javascript... [06:02] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:02] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210071254.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. 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[06:18] yeppers [06:18] hey, http://slackwiki.org/Utf-8_linux_console [06:19] the link to the keymap is dead, just thought i'd let you know =0 [06:19] =) [06:19] if you need it hosting, i could host it [06:19] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [06:19] thanks, I have a host [06:19] will do that now [06:19] kickback (~Unknown@122.163.254.148) joined ##slackware. [06:19] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) joined ##slackware. [06:20] Sappys (~Sappy@89.254.138.139) left irc: Client Quit [06:20] =) [06:20] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [06:20] ah yeah I rm'd my scripts dir [06:21] yht (~yht@118.96.121.225) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [06:24] ok, done [06:28] samfisher (unaffilia@unaffiliated/samfisher) left ##slackware. [06:34] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) left irc: [06:38] yht (~yht@118.96.121.225) joined ##slackware. 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[07:57] phrag: indeedily i am [08:01] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.81) joined ##slackware. [08:08] slackie (~x@unaffiliated/slackie) joined ##slackware. [08:13] ridout (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:14] sftp (~sftp@79.174.35.11) joined ##slackware. [08:20] mrcarrot (~lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) joined ##slackware. [08:24] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [08:26] madbear (~dude@c-7d29e655.09-14-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:26] madbear (~dude@c-7d29e655.09-14-6b73641.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [08:27] trone (sim@host33-25-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left ##slackware. [08:31] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:35] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [08:35] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [08:35] Urugami (~AndChat@adsl-240-174-165.msy.bellsouth.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [08:37] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) joined ##slackware. [08:37] estranho (~estranho@mvx-200-201-182-130.mundivox.com) left irc: Changing host [08:37] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) joined ##slackware. [08:38] ea_suter (~easuter@nat-1.uevora.pt) joined ##slackware. [08:38] hi folks [08:40] I'm having some trouble re-installing the ati drivers for my card after updating the kernel from the slackware repository. after running the installer again it just crashes and leaves the console unusable. anyone else had this problem? [08:40] using Slackware64 13.1 [08:40] kernel is 2.6.33.4 (package revision 2) [08:44] Zordrak: dude, how do i get this to work =P [08:44] here or #rt ? [08:45] phrag: wherever. here stops me having to swap :) [08:45] ok cool.. [08:45] basically mate, i have been trying to setup RTIR with LDAP authentication for weeks [08:46] we also have an AD server which is used for outlook access and other things [08:46] phrag: oo.. RTIR? Never touched it [08:46] I know what it is [08:46] but thats it [08:46] well it's just RT really [08:46] Can only assume it works witht the same backend [08:46] ldap working with RT would be suffience [08:46] how did you install EA? [08:46] sufficient... i installed via CPAN [08:47] http://pastebin.com/d5HVDjj5 [08:48] that's the error that i keep getting spammed with [08:48] could i show you my siteconfig and see if you can spot anything glaring? i am at my wits end with this [08:48] good start, its definitely installed [08:48] yeah no probs [08:48] make sure debug level logging is on [08:48] the level of verbosity i went to for that is insane [08:49] has been an ongoing project for weeks.. rt, rtir and rtfm were easy and took 30 minutes to setup... LDAP has taken weeks =P [08:49] heh [08:49] shoulda come to me sooner [08:49] ah mate, i was over the moon when i realised you were the dev! =) [08:49] sec, i'll pm a private link [08:49] kk [08:55] null-pointer (~martinus@180.211.95.230) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:57] asarch (~asarch@189.188.141.249) joined ##slackware. [08:58] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Quit: Leaving [08:59] Roin (~florian@p5B2BECCF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [09:03] forgive the duplicate entries, i can tidy those up... it's the product of trying every combination i can think of to make it work =P [09:03] mrcarrot (lasse@86-60-154-229-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) left ##slackware. [09:03] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [09:04] ea_suter (~easuter@nat-1.uevora.pt) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [09:05] ea_suter (~easuter@193.137.219.7) joined ##slackware. [09:12] Zordrak: actually, i'm going to re-write it as it's a mess, i'll ping you the new one once i'm done if your still about... 20 minutes or so [09:12] if you don't mind that is =) [09:13] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-14-233.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [09:14] how much you paying for support!? [09:14] hehe [09:18] Dominian: you always ping me when i'm not around :) [09:18] ananke: yeah. you suck [09:18] :) [09:18] of course [09:18] ananke: I'm writing an article.. for my blog [09:18] let me PM you if you don't mind [09:18] sure [09:19] s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-217.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [09:19] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) joined ##slackware. [09:20] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@r74-192-29-7.bcstcmta01.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) joined ##slackware. [09:21] epapi (~epapi@outgoing.txt.it) left irc: Quit: Leaving [09:22] estranho (~estranho@unaffiliated/estranho) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:22] Dominian: i pay in fudge [09:22] oooo [09:22] I'm there dude [09:22] hehe [09:23] pete` (user@024.a.002.syd.iprimus.net.au) left ##slackware ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [09:23] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-9-192.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:23] we have some awesome fudge at the sunday market.. i cleaned them out of stawberry fudge =) [09:23] peanut butter fudge? [09:23] heh [09:23] that's the only real fudge [09:23] peanut butter if my favorite [09:23] alisonken1lap: amen! [09:24] alisonken1lap: here at Nashville, Indiana.. they have some KILLER peanut butter fudge [09:24] oh they have every type of fudge.. it's the best market stall ever [09:24] there's a place at the l.a. county fair that I like to get the pb fudge from [09:24] although i was away in paris this weekend, and my GF went to the fudge shop.. and only got herself fudge.. non for me! pfft, was not impressed [09:25] alisonken1lap: I don't have to wait for the fair to get fudge :) [09:25] alisonken1lap: I just drive 30mins east and its MINE! [09:25] oh wait.. west [09:25] I meant west [09:29] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) joined ##slackware. [09:29] phrag, she got you some fudge, she just ate it before you got there [09:30] speed__ (~claudio@67.18.186.219) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:30] sftp_ (~sftp@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. 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[09:47] kickback (~Unknown@122.163.254.148) left irc: Quit: leaving [09:48] alisonken1lap (~alisonken@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/ [09:51] jareth__ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [09:53] jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) joined ##slackware. [09:53] phrag: he died waiting on you... [09:53] we already had the wake [09:56] knolls_ (~knolls@99-17-47-242.lightspeed.edmdok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [09:57] sorry [09:57] 17 zillion things to be dealing with here [09:57] resurrection! [09:57] Action: Zordrak checks link [09:59] fighting my memory, but i think AuthMethods is deprecated [09:59] # YOU **MUST** SPECIFY A filter AND A d_filter!! [10:00] phrag: ping ^ [10:01] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [10:03] then can i see a full debug log for a login attempt pls [10:08] Zordrak: sorry mate, on other work here too... i uploaded new config [10:09] not tested yet, will check the d_filter though in 10 minutes, thankyou =) [10:11] just set it to (objectClass=DummyFilter) or something [10:11] its a design issue, you need it but it doesnt have to be set for anything specific [10:11] (unless you need it to be) [10:11] infected__ (~mootpuppe@infectedtech.org) joined ##slackware. [10:12] aha, will give that a go now [10:12] Gimped (~Gimped@c-98-248-193-199.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:12] SportChick (~essy@freenode/staff/sportchick) joined ##slackware. [10:13] erk (~MrEd@about/apple/iPod/BeZerk) joined ##slackware. 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[10:29] Hmmm, I don't think it was that [10:30] sorry, can't help you then :/ [10:30] What do you guys use to do the my-medium.cnf -> my.cnf, db_install and password change? [10:30] Awww, raela, that makes me sad. [10:31] higuita (~higuita@2001:b18:400f:0:211:d8ff:fe82:b10e) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [10:32] BVX (b@boringvx.stalker.fi) joined ##slackware. [10:40] Urugami (~AndChat@96.sub-174-245-88.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [10:41] shyko (~shyko@201-76-74-142.flash.tv.br) joined ##slackware. [10:41] shyko (~shyko@201-76-74-142.flash.tv.br) left irc: Changing host [10:41] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [10:41] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Client Quit [10:42] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [10:43] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Client Quit [10:44] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [10:45] vinic_ (~konversat@p5B3D5579.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [10:49] my finbgers [10:49] ahem. fingers. [10:49] just the man =) [10:49] ok, same errors after i cleaned up the config [10:51] vinisterx (~ryan@74-129-201-82.dhcp.insightbb.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:53] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:57] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [11:04] LSD` (~ianweb@203-59-117-134.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:05] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Read error: No route to host [11:06] LSD` (~ianweb@58.7.200.234) joined ##slackware. [11:07] Urugami (~AndChat@96.sub-174-245-88.myvzw.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:07] iptables -A INPUT -p tcp ! --syn -m state --state NEW -j DROP [11:08] is this correct if i want to remove connections that did not start with a SYN ? [11:08] Zordrak: dude!!! [11:08] i am sending you some fudge [11:08] i love you 8oD [11:08] RTIR LDAP works!!! finally 8o) 8o) [11:08] i have been trying to get this working on and off for months! [11:09] ;) [11:09] basically, i was using attributes that were deprecated from the old LDAP method, that the new module didn't understand it seems [11:10] Zordrak: thankyou so much, i really will send you some fudge.. what's your favourite =) [11:10] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423454.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:13] Zordrak++ [11:16] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [11:16] hitest (~hitest@69.176.189.210) left irc: Quit: Leaving [11:17] Action: phrag does a dance [11:18] Action: Necos slaps phrag a few times just for kicks [11:18] lol mornin man [11:18] phrag, what are you using LDAP for? (just curious) [11:19] ldap+kerberos maybe? [11:19] janemba (~cacao@unaffiliated/janemba) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:19] haha [11:20] it's for outlook and all that crap... we run linux servers, but the company we merged with has AD and shit [11:20] you can't say i don't love ya phrag... :P [11:20] mainly for web apps [11:20] 8o) [11:20] Ah... [11:20] Action: phrag is a happy man today =) [11:20] lol [11:20] I was thinking of messing with Radius and LDAP.... [11:21] radius is a pita [11:21] Is there a better user/password management system? [11:21] at least, when i tried to get it to work with our proxy a couple of years ago [11:22] signal11 (esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:26] stephen__ (~twoshot_@user-0cetgcn.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11:27] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: Quit: launch [11:27] ##slackware: mode change '+o phrag' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [11:27] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [11:27] Action: phrag sets mode +o *@* [11:27] =P [11:27] ##slackware: mode change '-o phrag' by phrag!~phrag@about/slackware/phrag [11:28] >.> [11:28] that would have been so awesome lol [11:30] signal11 (esteban@gnv.quaddro.net) joined ##slackware. [11:30] radius seemed to work fine with multiple wireless ap's - at least when I set a system up at the city hall with 5 wireless ap's and a radius server [11:31] i was trying to get it to sync with winbind, which is probably where i went wrong [11:32] s4lv4d0r (1000@201.210.190.169) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [11:32] what is winbind? other than a crappy ms implementation of something? [11:32] samba's active directory account sync module [11:33] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) left irc: Quit: I/O Error: No space left on device [11:33] s4lv4d0r (1000@201.210.190.169) joined ##slackware. [11:34] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [11:35] Action: logia_th is back (gone 06:04:03) [11:35] Action: Necos stabs logia_th's away timer [11:35] stephen__ (~twoshot_@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:36] hi, sorry.... no stabs please ;( [11:36] Action: Necos stabs logia_th again for good measure [11:36] :) [11:37] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [11:37] hhhaaayyy!!! [11:37] lol [11:37] lol [11:39] edthix (~ed@115.133.247.147) joined ##slackware. [11:40] logia_th: turn that off please [11:40] it is!!! [11:40] tim0z (~~tim0z@athedsl-113688.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:40] sorry [11:40] hehehe [11:40] thanks =) [11:42] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:42] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) joined ##slackware. [11:43] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. [11:45] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:46] Ansa89 (~Ansa89@86.110.155.158) joined ##slackware. [11:46] john_dee (~id@95-29-147-24.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [11:48] What's the parameter in the httpd config files that let's a php file auto-execute? [11:48] Action: Zordrak reads up [11:49] DirectoryIndex index.php index.php3 index.html index.shtml index.htm [11:49] DefaultType application/x-httpd-php [11:49] possibly [11:49] TY phrag [11:49] phrag: no problem :) Not a fudge faqn though.. call it a favour owed? [11:50] Zordrak: you're a legend.. i definately owe you a few beers =) [11:50] no probs dude [11:50] I just wish I had the time to properly clean the extension up [11:50] The Legend of Zordrak [11:50] by nintendo. [11:50] next time your up north, hit me up =) [11:50] there are feature requests people want and all kinds of things but i just dont have the time any more [11:50] phrag: will do :) [11:51] Not to mention RTv4 has been in development for what seems like absolutely for ever and they promised to have their own LDAP impl (based on mine) included within it [11:51] but I dont see any sign of RT4 any time soon [11:54] dios_mio (net@95.8.64.102) joined ##slackware. [11:55] The Legend of RT4 [11:55] The Sign of Zordrak [11:57] The Cerebral Embolism of Zordrak [11:57] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11:57] hehe [11:57] *Aneurysm [11:58] ouchie >.> [11:58] anocepalic fistula ;) [11:58] anocephalic, that is [11:58] snL20 (~irssi@138.199.64.171) joined ##slackware. [12:01] Urugami (~AndChat@80.sub-97-26-159.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [12:05] tenzn (~dindh@unaffiliated/samuel9999) joined ##slackware. [12:05] i've never even seen that word before gnubien... get the hell outta here :P [12:05] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:06] im going home afore my brain asplodes [12:06] ttfn [12:06] later Zordrak [12:06] gnubien (~e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:07] Srbo (~Srbo@88.128.79.2) joined ##slackware. [12:07] SuBmUnDo (~SuBmUnDo@unaffiliated/submundo) joined ##slackware. [12:13] Srbo (~Srbo@88.128.79.2) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:18] newslacker (~root@207-119-220-22.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [12:18] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [12:21] Hmmm, My drupla site on Linode server is listing the directory instead of executing the index.php..... [12:22] It's on Slack13.1, what am I brain farting on? [12:22] you got modphp5.so loaded ? [12:22] Pfft! I'm a moron... I'll just copy my working httpd.conf onto that server [12:23] I think so... I used slackpkg's template to install all of the pkgs from my working server [12:23] LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so [12:23] when I got to index.php directly, it works [12:23] lemme double check [12:24] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:24] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [12:25] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:25] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:26] LoadModule php5_module lib/httpd/modules/libphp5.so [12:26] It's on [12:27] zongo_ (~zongo@86-41-67-100-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] Greetings to all [12:28] =) [12:28] Are the Linode guys a small operation? [12:28] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [12:28] Hi zongo_ [12:28] arfon: no [12:28] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:28] :( [12:28] arfon: no, they are fairly well established [12:30] well, wait, what do you mean? [12:30] I was hoping that tey were... [12:30] well, they are not a massive corp [12:30] or even a large company [12:30] arfon: they're not rackspace, but they're not prgmr [12:30] but they have like 4 datacentre deployments [12:30] iirc [12:30] kleanchap (~kleanchap@p5B11A676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:30] 5 [12:30] Do you think I could chat with someone? [12:30] london, newark nj, atlanta ga, dallas tx, fremont ca [12:30] arfon: irc.oftc.net #linode [12:30] tim0z (~~tim0z@athedsl-113688.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:30] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [12:30] I had a passionate argument from a friend of mine today. He is a big supporter of Arch and I have been using slackware for almost two weeks now [12:30] arfon: thats the community support channel, otherwise their contact information is on http://linode.com/about/ [12:30] his argument was that Slackware is outdated [12:30] as opposed to Arch of course [12:30] Slackware being the oldest Distro around [12:30] haha, that's silly [12:30] being not technically savy I could not respond to that [12:30] He's an idiot zongo [12:30] anyone care to weigh in so I can go back to him and tell him [12:31] Slackware is as advanced as any other distro... [12:31] It's not bleeding edge but, it's as advanced [12:31] my only argument was that I have been using Slackware for a little time and linux in general, but slackware felt right [12:31] Ask him, what can Arch do that slackware can't? [12:31] Catholicism (or Greek Orthodox?) is the oldest Christian sect. Are they obsolete? [12:31] yes [12:31] zongo_: mercedes claims to have invented the automobile, making them the oldest car manufactor around. does that make them outdated? [12:32] asbolutely [12:32] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [12:32] Lots of priests and choir boys would say no! [12:32] They didn't invent the auto.. [12:32] arfon: they claimed to have in their current radio ad campaign [12:33] arfon: thats why i said "mercedes claims..." [12:33] and you are all correct :) but what about technical advantages. He was bragging about "pacman" for example.. [12:33] They're idiots or their target audience are.... [12:33] the validity of their claims was not my point [12:33] People were messing with self-propelled carts LONG before Daimler [12:34] wanke[l|r]s [12:34] zongo, if anyone points to a package manager as proof of superority, tell them that they are idots [12:34] Ask them how advanced it is when they FSCK your system automatically. [12:35] john_dee (~id@95-29-147-24.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:36] divel (~daniel@251.84.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) joined ##slackware. [12:36] zongo_: Slackware uses SYSOP (a/k/a you!), the most sophisticated package management system there is. [12:36] divel (daniel@251.84.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) left ##slackware. [12:36] rhisa (~rhisa@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [12:36] rhisa (~rhisa@ool-457ab193.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Changing host [12:36] rhisa (~rhisa@unaffiliated/rhisa) joined ##slackware. [12:37] ut of curosity, what is the current stable kernel version for Arch? anyone know? [12:40] Action: arfon likes rob0's point [12:41] arfon, 2.6.35 [12:42] and slack 13.1 is at 2.6.33 wow, big techonological advantage [12:42] Why are we stuck in the dark ages???? [12:43] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [12:43] (sarcasm) [12:43] BVX (b@boringvx.stalker.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds [12:44] You know, I bet if you asked him "what piece of hardware does Arch support that Slack doesnt?" [12:44] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:44] 13.1 was released about 5 months ago, remember [12:44] he'd go "um, er" [12:44] briareus (~briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [12:44] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Client Quit [12:45] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) joined ##slackware. [12:45] Yes, and 5 months later, I STILL KICKS ASS! WHOOOOOooOOooOooOO! [12:45] I = It BTW [12:47] hes still alive? [12:47] fuck, ww [12:48] is there a book on 13.1 coming out soon ? [12:48] Out of curosity, what is the kernel version in current? [12:48] zongo_: u need 13.x :P [12:49] zongo_, you don't need a book... RTFM is for losers. [12:49] arfon: see the changelog. [12:49] [looks around] [12:49] arfon, I am not a magician either :) [12:49] (that was more for effect zongo_ ) [12:50] john_dee (~id@95-29-147-24.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Quit: leaving [12:50] Aww, BP{k}, you ganna make me broswe over to slackware.com on a 5pt Lynx connection? [12:50] dios_mio (net@95.8.64.102) left irc: [12:50] slackware.com is perfectly readable on a text browser [12:50] arfon: yes. [12:50] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.185.89) joined ##slackware. [12:50] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.185.89) left irc: Changing host [12:50] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. [12:51] That makes me sad [12:51] One of few sites that was probably tested on lynx [12:51] arfon: oh good. [12:51] :) [12:52] stephen__ (~twoshot_@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds [12:53] FusionX (FusionX@millie.kottnet.net) left irc: Changing host [12:53] FusionX (FusionX@unaffiliated/fusionx) joined ##slackware. [12:54] 2.6.33.4 [12:54] :P [12:54] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. [12:55] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [12:55] artaud (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:55] john_dee (~id@95-29-147-24.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [12:55] I check all of my sites with lynx [12:55] I even pick lynx friendly themes when I can [12:56] Menus go on the right [12:56] CtrlAltCa (~fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: Quit: byez [12:57] elliot_ (~elliot@bzq-79-182-0-17.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [12:58] elliot_ (~elliot@bzq-79-182-0-17.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:58] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [13:01] Can I just disable ARCH check in skype.SlackBuild to get it repackaged on slack64? [13:01] elliot_ (~elliot@bzq-79-182-0-17.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] skype is 32bit [13:01] Maybe hints on additional compat32 packages? [13:01] Isn't skype a 32-bit binary? You would need multilib. [13:02] so it wont matter [13:02] elliot_ (~elliot@bzq-79-182-0-17.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:02] Gorodish (~Gorodish@98.150.172.29) joined ##slackware. [13:02] elliot_ (~elliot@bzq-79-182-0-17.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] I have multilib [13:02] Nick change: elliot_ -> elliot98 [13:02] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-182-0-17.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Client Quit [13:03] It's just that slackbuild does checks arch. And I thought if I can just cut it out to get it to repackage [13:03] it'll work then... [13:03] :) [13:04] john_dee: if you set up multilib with alien's howto, there is a 32-bit shell script that prepares a 32bit environment. install skype from there [13:04] Any additional compat packages needed except those made by massconvert? [13:05] adaptr: Ah, right. Thanks [13:05] snL20 (~irssi@138.199.64.171) left irc: Quit: leaving [13:06] snL20 (~irssi@194.81-166-79.customer.lyse.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] Urugami (AndChat@80.sub-97-26-159.myvzw.com) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [13:08] MReimer (~chatzilla@p4FD4AA74.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [13:09] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-182-0-17.red.bezeqint.net) joined ##slackware. [13:10] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@corp-190-12-31-140-cue.puntonet.ec) joined ##slackware. [13:10] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-182-0-17.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Changing host [13:10] elliot98 (~elliot@unaffiliated/elliot98) joined ##slackware. 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[13:46] indeed. wonder if that will ever change [13:46] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [13:46] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [13:46] [as in slackware providing basic dep metadata, rather than automated systems like that providing slack support] [13:46] rizitis (~rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [13:46] I think you know the answer ;) [13:47] elliot98 (~elliot@bzq-79-182-0-17.red.bezeqint.net) left irc: Quit: Konversation terminated! [13:47] then again, i've been sometimes surprised :) [13:47] obs is quite awesome; I've built some suse packages from my windows XP machine, and had them ready when I arrived home [13:48] slck-o (~cris@201.86.13.186.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [13:49] it is. it's saving me a lot of work, especially when it comes to multiple distros. other distros are also starting their own build services, i think fedora launched something [13:49] "koji" I think, though i'm not sure general public can use it (nor have I investigated myself) [13:49] and i hope more software & hardware vendors take advantage of something like that [13:50] what exactly does it do/ [13:50] automate building the entire system? [13:50] zaltekk: automates building packages [13:50] or a certain package plus all deps? [13:50] thrice`, no, it isn't available for the general public to use, not yet anyway. [13:50] zaltekk, kinda, installs a minimal environment and compiles there, then publishes and shuts itself down [13:51] interesting [13:51] zaltekk: currently they provide environments for ubuntu, debian, fedora, rhel, centos, sles, opensuse & mandriva [13:51] so, when qt 4.7 comes out, a "rebuild KDE" button is pushed, and it does so [13:51] what exactly is the point? publishes where? [13:52] zaltekk: it publishes it on the web, it creates you a repo [with proper metadata and signatures] [13:52] so its for developers, not end users? [13:52] zaltekk: the point is simple: you can easily build whatever software you need, for those platforms, with a push of a single button [13:52] obs? [13:52] hiptobecubic: opensuse build service [13:52] oh ok [13:52] zaltekk, end users can use it as well, anybody can really. [13:53] right. but why would i create a repo for myself [13:53] maybe i should go google it so i understand better :P [13:53] zaltekk, to share the packages you've built with others. [13:53] metrofox (~metrofox@unaffiliated/metrofox) joined ##slackware. [13:53] it allows for sharing too; example, I update koffice for the new beta, and push "let the lazy KDE packagers know I've updated it", and they can steal it [13:53] zaltekk: if you have a single machine, then it probably doesn't offer you much. for people who have multiple machines, and multiple distros, that saves a lot of work [13:53] and it's a nice way to keep track of what you've built. :) [13:54] ananke: so it builds for other distros too? [13:54] that could be very useful. [13:54] zaltekk: yes, it can. look at the list of distros i've mentioned [13:54] zaltekk, it can yes, as ananke mentioned above, it has environments for a few other distros. [13:54] right, i'm reading on opensuse.org [13:55] of course, your build scripts [rpms or debs] would have to take account for those other distros [13:55] in this article dell is using it to build their software for multiple distros. that's good news for users of those free distros, because it's easier for dell to publish that software: http://en.community.dell.com/dell-blogs/enterprise/b/tech-center/archive/2010/09/27/behind-the-scenes-dell-openmanage-build-process-and-opensuse-build-service.aspx [13:55] has anyone here used OpenSUSE lately? the last time i did Yast2 seemed to be a real pain still [13:56] zaltekk, I use it on my desktop, and have used it on the laptop as well. [13:56] zaltekk: well, yast2 is a conglomeration of multiple modules. [13:56] i remember it wanting to control all of my configuration files and getting issues trying to do anything manually [13:56] and then i broke the packaging stuff and just erased it. probably all user errors [13:56] zaltekk: i can't remember last time i had it override my personal changes [13:57] ananke: probably user errors :P [13:57] I haven't had any issues with it overriding anything I set. [13:57] nas tardes: good evening [13:57] zaltekk: not unusual. as with any distro/tool, there is some learning curve :) [13:57] this has been a few years too i think [13:57] i'm actually looking at obs right now to build OFED packages for SLES11SP1 [13:57] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) joined ##slackware. [13:57] has Novell completely abandoned AppArmor? [13:57] zaltekk: it's still there, i think [13:58] yes, it is. [13:59] ohh, and i forgot another use for OBS, which is something i've done a few times: if somebody packaged XYZ for distro ABC, you can take that package and easily build it against distro/release FOOBAR [14:00] I didn't like suse proper, but did create my own image from studio to trim it up, and it runs well though [14:01] for example: osc build --ccache --alternative-project=openSUSE:11.3 x86_64 NX.spec [14:02] lamah (~lamah@fedora/lamah) left irc: Quit: disconnecting. [14:04] hopefully whoever purchases them doesn't pull the plug [14:04] Roin_ (~florian@p5B2BDB39.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [14:04] GuardabosqueS (~yatique@87.111.124.130) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:07] shyko (~shyko@201-76-74-142.flash.tv.br) joined ##slackware. [14:07] shyko (~shyko@201-76-74-142.flash.tv.br) left irc: Changing host [14:07] shyko (~shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [14:07] Roin (~florian@p5B2BECCF.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [14:07] yeah. there is a lot of value for community in a service like that [14:08] ovnicraft (~ovnicraft@190.95.243.130) joined ##slackware. [14:11] Nick change: Roin_ -> Roin [14:13] gtl_ (~gtl@187.112.68.46) joined ##slackware. [14:13] gtl_ (~gtl@187.112.68.46) left irc: Client Quit [14:14] gtludwig (~gtl@150.162.165.81) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [14:15] gtludwig (~gtl@187.112.68.46) joined ##slackware. [14:19] Urugami (~AndChat@80.sub-97-26-159.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [14:19] arfon (~arfon@66.87.2.94) left irc: Quit: leaving [14:21] jdetring (~jay@adsl-70-234-188-9.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:22] Azuos001 (~Azuos001@82.132.248.187) joined ##slackware. [14:23] Azuos001 (~Azuos001@82.132.248.187) left irc: Client Quit [14:25] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [14:25] rodrigo_golive (c8116f03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.200.17.111.3) left irc: Quit: Page closed [14:27] Mowah (1000@c-d181e555.09-137-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [14:27] gtludwig (~gtl@187.112.68.46) left irc: Quit: Leaving [14:32] stephen__ (~twoshot_@user-0cetgcn.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [14:32] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [14:33] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:34] stephen__ (~twoshot_@user-0cetgcn.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:34] Hmm. I was about to ask for help because my laptop slackware doesn't boot (I used rsync to copy it to another HDD), but I found out that any file on the new HDD is now michael:michael . Should 'rsync -a .....' not be enough? And should I have used root for this? [14:35] ikonia (~mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) joined ##slackware. [14:36] jdetring (~jay@adsl-71-153-135-38.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [14:37] arfon (~arfon@66.87.2.94) joined ##slackware. [14:37] no, you need to preserve user, group and perms [14:37] jgeboski (~jgeboski@unaffiliated/jgeboski) joined ##slackware. [14:40] -a implies -p, -o and -g, so this should have worked.. but I'm not sure if I have to use root to copy the system. [14:41] erkan^ (~erkan@unaffiliated/erkan/x-4259598) joined ##slackware. [14:41] tenzn (-: [14:43] slackmagic (1000@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:43] rafu (~rafu@90-227-120-47-no121.business.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:46] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.63.136.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [14:46] erkan^ (erkan@unaffiliated/erkan/x-4259598) left ##slackware ("Ik ga weg"). [14:46] ToxAtec: ifaik, you won't get read access to all the files unless you are root [14:51] GuardabosqueS (~yatique@87.111.124.130) joined ##slackware. [14:51] good evening, other time :) [14:53] cybergirl (~cybergirl@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:53] rapid (~rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:53] cybergirl (~cybergirl@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [14:54] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) joined ##slackware. [14:57] v3gard: I thought about that, but for some reason I have /root/~.bash_history with 600 (-rw-------) and still michael:michael on the "target". I used rsync over ssh to a third HDD and then copied it to the final target.. And I think I used root on the source, something like 'root@laptop / # rsync -avze ssh bin usr [..] michael@192.168.XXX.XXX:/some/folder/' . So michael@desktop just had to... [14:57] ...have write access to /some/folder/ , or not? [14:58] I think I'll just do that again and look what happens :) [14:59] jdetring (~jay@adsl-71-153-135-38.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [15:04] stinky (nemesis@free.blinkenshell.org) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:06] jlarrew (~WallRat00@cpe-173-174-46-92.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:07] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:07] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [15:07] skate_forever (~leandro@unaffiliated/skateforever/x-2874) joined ##slackware. [15:07] skate_forever (leandro@unaffiliated/skateforever/x-2874) left ##slackware ("Saindo"). [15:09] asarch (~asarch@187.132.136.134) joined ##slackware. [15:10] stinky (nemesis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-mqygjhiakfsnesny) joined ##slackware. [15:11] jdetring (~jay@70.234.178.56) joined ##slackware. [15:17] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:18] veritos (~veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) joined ##slackware. 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[15:42] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:42] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) joined ##slackware. [15:43] http://lazarenko.me/news/linux-monument-unveiled [15:43] about time =) [15:43] ashe (~ashe@125.163.37.246) joined ##slackware. [15:44] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:45] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. [15:48] mbohun (~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:48] thought it'd be my picture, whatever [15:48] what an insult [15:49] slck-o (1000@189.64.10.241) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:50] phe (~phe@AToulouse-258-1-30-198.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Quit: Leaving [15:51] jeev, it said linux, not "windows-but-pretends-to-use-linux" [15:51] i cant believe webkit in konqueror is worst than khtml, honestly, wtf [15:52] sahko, are you on qt 4.7? [15:52] i guess its qtwebkit to blame [15:52] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [15:52] oops lag [15:52] thrice`: no [15:52] well, at least use the most recent version [15:53] did you upgrade qt? [15:53] there was a lot of webkit improvements in 4.7 [15:53] i saw new rekonq needs it [15:54] rekonq ? [15:54] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:54] rafu (~rafu@90-227-120-47-no121.business.telia.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:54] not really, but the have a cmake flag that bails out if you don't have it, since he wanted people to use the latest for the improvements [15:54] yht (~yht@118.96.121.225) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:54] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Quit: Ex-Chat [15:55] sahko, I have, yes [15:55] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) joined ##slackware. [15:56] jemark (~mark@94.75.214.34) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:56] alimon (bda051df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.160.81.223) joined ##slackware. [15:58] thrice`: do you know if theres any plans to include the webkit part in KDE 4.6 or 4.7? [15:58] s/part/kpart/ [15:58] no clue; some distros already include it by default [15:58] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [15:59] yeah saw Arch has updated konq-plugins to an SVN version to work with it [15:59] i mostly use rekonq, I must admit [16:01] never liked it much, but its mostly qtwebkit again, konq is more complete in every aspect [16:01] oh? [16:01] sahko: new VLC? You mean the 1.1.4 or 1.1.4.1 ? [16:01] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) left irc: Quit: Changing server [16:02] I guess I falsely use it as simply a web browser :> [16:02] alienBOB: .1 [16:02] That is Mac OSX only [16:02] I am waiting for 1.1.5 [16:02] oh! i dont use it, i just noticed [16:04] tenzn (dindh@unaffiliated/samuel9999) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:04] /tmp should be set 1777 correct? [16:05] oh rekonq isn't bad - except that it's just google chrome but without the google :) [16:05] clavius: yes [16:05] 1.1.4.1 hrnn [16:05] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-155-9-192.range109-155.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:05] rc.S (I think) sets 1777 on /tmp every bootup [16:06] all of it or just the unix lock stuff? [16:06] adaptr, and qt4 instead of gtk and gconf [16:06] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:07] alimon (bda051df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.160.81.223) left ##slackware. [16:07] thrice`: um.. chrome uses gtk ? oh, that makes it better on my xfce, then [16:07] cause i know i've screwed with /tmp's perms before and my screwup wasn't fixed on reboot :( [16:07] it looks about the same though [16:07] errordeveloper (~errordeve@host109-152-116-198.range109-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [16:07] strangely, rekonq depends on gtk too :) [16:07] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) joined ##slackware. [16:07] adaptr: qt applications look ok in gtk environments. its the other way around thats not optimal [16:08] noted [16:08] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [16:08] aha, rc.M [16:08] troy (~troy@dsl-67-55-10-15.acanac.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:09] rc.M, hmmm, I would have thought it would make sense in rc.S [16:10] thanks, that's what I thought, been a while. slackbuild script screwed it up. [16:11] .S seems more intuitive, yes [16:12] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [16:13] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) left irc: Quit: leaving [16:17] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) joined ##slackware. [16:18] it does both it seems. [16:19] yht (~yht@118.96.121.225) joined ##slackware. [16:19] I think rc.M is a "just in case" to `ensure basic filesystem permission sanity' as per the comment. [16:20] ferdna (~yup@cpe-24-92-114-97.elp.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [16:21] v4nelle (~van@adsl-221.109.242.238.tellas.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:21] btw, vlc has to learn the value of inter-version patches [16:21] does wine take long to build? [16:21] it takes a bit depending on your machines spec. [16:22] eg. on PII with 128mb or RAM? [16:22] PIII not PII [16:22] We will sell no wine before its time. [16:23] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [16:23] sahko: uhm ... that probably will take a while [16:27] oh, alienBOB has a package. i could use that. (since its not my machine :p) [16:28] i hope 13.1 can work with 128mb. even with fluxbox or something [16:28] timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:29] tim0z (~~tim0z@ppp-94-69-251-117.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:29] will wine work with it though? [16:29] Necrosporus (~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus) joined ##slackware. [16:31] I have slackware-12.2 on a 64mb laptop with icewm. I didn't try wine yet.. [16:32] I don't think you would want to build wine with this machine :P distcc could help a lot. [16:32] tim0z (~tim0z@ppp-94-69-251-117.home.otenet.gr) left ##slackware. [16:33] hoobop (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [16:33] Nigromante (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [16:34] Nigromante (~Nigromant@197.Red-80-35-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:35] coredumb (~coredumb@cust.static.213-200-235-213.cybernet.ch) joined ##slackware. [16:37] cybergirl (~cybergirl@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [16:38] i think Absolute claims it can work with 128mb, so i dont see why Slack wouldnt [16:40] cybergirl (~cybergirl@212-198-248-35.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Client Quit [16:40] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) joined ##slackware. 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[17:34] Srbo (~Srbo@dslb-084-059-028-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [17:35] _RadioHead (~Slackware@82.114.94.251) joined ##slackware. [17:37] KilroyHiggins (~KilroyHig@0-26-c6-63-e2-b8.dynamic.ucsd.edu) left irc: Quit: Leaving [17:38] nvision_ (~nvision@g225060077.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [17:41] nvision (~nvision@unaffiliated/nvision) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:49] clavius (~James@unaffiliated/clavius) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:50] lorenzocabrini (~lc@41.191.244.70) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:50] anyone know how to force java to use ALSA? apparently it is using OSS by default.. [17:51] weird [17:51] Talk to it stearnly? [17:52] arfon, tried that [17:52] it said no [17:52] I'm out of ideas then. :( [17:52] edman, launch it with aoss [17:53] i would have thought it was alsa by default since a while ago...what you say is a bit surprising.. [17:54] mancha, google seems to say it is [17:54] but then i launch a jar and i get no ALSA working for anything else.. [17:54] Out of curosity, what makes you think it's trying oss? [17:55] slava_dp (~slava@unaffiliated/slava-dp/x-9423217) left irc: Quit: #E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5) [17:55] arfon, if nothing is using the audio, and i run the jar then mplayer can't open ALSA, if i open mplayer first, and then the jar, it works, and i can open any other alsa app and get audio with the jar running [17:56] what is the behavior if you launch as: aoss blah.jar ? [17:57] That's a weird one edman007 [17:59] eltt0s (~caesar@99-179-121-193.lightspeed.tpkaks.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:00] Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.159.63.136.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:02] mario__ (~mario@av3-84-90-166-220.netvisao.pt) joined ##slackware. [18:02] Hi everyone [18:02] a quick note [18:03] if you can, go to this topic and express your opinion [18:03] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/cpu-optimisations-and-slackware-any-486-users-834771/ [18:03] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:03] Motoko-chan (~maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.2, revision: 4740, sources date: 20100627, built on: 2010-08-08 18:29:00 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/ [18:03] Night all [18:04] arfon (~arfon@66.87.2.94) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:04] Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-423454.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.2.0 [18:04] nvision_ (~nvision@g225060077.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [18:05] hi [18:06] and that's probably one of the reasons why some people consider slackware to be something of the past. seriously though, modern slackware has outgrown i486 and i586 [18:06] like i said in that topic [18:07] some kind of test [18:07] that proves i686 has really advantages [18:07] mario__: you'r texmex? [18:08] sorry, no i'm mlpa [18:08] you'r=? :) [18:08] typo [18:09] i dont speak leet [18:09] rafu (~rafu@90-227-120-47-no121.business.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:09] rafu (~rafu@90-227-120-47-no121.business.telia.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:09] maybe I should change my neck here for mlpa [18:09] M is for Mario [18:10] but you opinion in a possible Slackware i686 [18:11] Cr1kk4 (~fabio@93-45-114-69.ip102.fastwebnet.it) joined ##slackware. [18:11] i think that out of the features i would like Slackware to have its one of the least wanted [18:11] i'd be surprised to see non-negligible effects from march=486/mtune=686 to march=686 [18:11] sirslacker (1000@B3207.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de) joined ##slackware. [18:11] personally, anybody who is still using those archaic computers, is most likely using some of the older releases [18:12] can you use pae with 486? [18:13] fraterm (~fraterm@ip68-108-86-172.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [18:13] i thought that was introduced much later [18:13] o/ [18:14] "First implemented in the Intel Pentium Pro in 1995" [18:14] there is a poll to choose what arch you use, and the winner until now is x86_64, follow with i686 [18:14] mario__: where would that poll be? [18:14] Pentium Pro is i686 [18:14] here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/what-architecture-do-you-run-slackware-on-for-proposed-switch-to-i686-834806/ [18:14] bah "Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll [18:16] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:17] I think Arch uses arch i686 [18:17] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [18:18] don't want to to compare, but it's a popular distribution and it's for i686 [18:19] Fedora switched to 686 recently too i think [18:20] arch is unstable [18:20] so is Fedora! [18:20] true [18:20] omg i686 is unstable! [18:20] i don't think its worth the fuss [18:20] Slackware 13.1 really runs in a i486 processor? [18:20] sure why not [18:21] you can make your kernel whatever you want tho [18:21] its only 486 to choose compatibility over performance [18:21] Cr1kk4 (fabio@93-45-114-69.ip102.fastwebnet.it) left ##slackware. [18:23] the fact is Pentium Pro is already i686 [18:23] so how many persons use less than that? [18:23] I do [18:23] i feel like i486 is so old now that it's not worth the electricity it uses. It's cheaper to upgrade [18:24] and that number of that persons will use newer versions of Slackware? [18:24] hiptobecubic: i was wondering about the power consumption of a 486 [say dx/66] vs an intel atom [18:24] I'm not saying that aren't persons that use, but maybe the performance improvements covers the number of people that use i486 [18:25] well theres some people in less modern places who still covet a 486 [18:25] ananke: i'm sure a netbook would use less power than an old desktop [18:25] _RadioHead (~Slackware@82.114.94.251) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:25] i'm thinking about buying one to replace my old desktop as a media server [18:25] how much RAM can a 486 wear you think? [18:25] and get one with a gpu that can do hardware video decoding [18:26] The 486 chip itself would be about on par with Atom in terms of power use, but of course the Atom is many magnitudes more powerful [18:26] i just don't think forcing everyone to run i686 makes any more sense the it would to force x86_64 [18:26] sahko, imho: 4GB registered [18:26] metrofox (~metrofox@unaffiliated/metrofox) left irc: Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2 [18:26] wow [18:26] newslacker (~root@207-119-220-22.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] The biggest power drain on older systems would be the relatively inefficient peripheral devices like optical/magnetic drives [18:27] i thought we're just talking ~64mb machines [18:27] _marc` (~marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Quit: _marc` [18:28] I just want to launch a discussion to see if there is any advantage in change arch [18:28] 4GB would be a theoretical maximum, in practice you wouldn't be able to get a 486 mainboard that could handle it. [18:28] my slowest machine running slack is a PII 450MHz, 1GB ram [18:28] i don't think theres any practical difference [18:28] guys, from my server, if i do [18:28] nmap localhost -p 1-65535, here is the result i have -> http://dpaste.com/249772/ [18:28] but when i run 'nmap -p 1-65536 my_public_ip_address' ... here is what i have [18:28] its true that 4GB its a maxium for any 32 bits [18:28] but the motherboard don't support that values of memory [18:29] paissad, port 65536 does not exist [18:29] paissad, only 0-65535 [18:29] mario__, as far as i know, there are registered and unregistered memory modules [18:29] lol [18:29] hey man, his ports goes 1 moar better, dun hate [18:29] but when i run 'nmap -p 1-65535 my_public_ip_address' ... here is what i have ->http://pastebin.com/RyjJTuTi [18:30] ScreamerX: can you explain me? [18:30] alienBOB: what Slackware version you use in your i486 [18:30] mario__, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_memory [18:31] veritos, i know 65536 does not exist, i mistaken when i wrote my message ^^ [18:31] sorry [18:31] SreamerX: thanks [18:31] "...allow single systems to remain stable with more memory modules than they would have otherwise." [18:32] i don't understand why port 8000, port 1723 are opened from the public_ip_address [18:32] for old dram modules :) [18:32] same case for port 51005 [18:32] paissad, try netstat -nl [18:32] gniks (~sking@unaffiliated/gniks) joined ##slackware. [18:33] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@nat-165-91-15-235.tamulink.tamu.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:34] I only ask for all persons here to vote and express your opinion, so Slackware follows a line that everyone agreed [18:34] Skywise, i did 'netstat -laputen | grep 51005' for example, nothing's returned ! [18:34] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@nat-165-91-15-235.tamulink.tamu.edu) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:34] whats wrong with just -ln [18:34] or at least the majority [18:34] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@nat-165-91-15-235.tamulink.tamu.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:34] i vote for: i686 ;) [18:34] Skywise, i have the same result with -ln [18:34] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/what-architecture-do-you-run-slackware-on-for-proposed-switch-to-i686-834806/ [18:35] theres nothing listeing to 8000? [18:35] i686 have 50% [18:35] Skywise, no nothing in the server ;) [18:36] paissad, but i think that the port is 8000 is maybe opened in the router (before the home server) [18:36] if i understand correctly [18:36] you should check your router's configuration then [18:36] Hey people i have a question [18:37] i don't know of any services that are typically on those ports [18:37] I use firefox and when I make a post in Linux questions [18:37] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@nat-165-91-15-235.tamulink.tamu.edu) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:37] it appears a penguin not Slackware simbol [18:37] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@nat-165-91-15-235.tamulink.tamu.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:37] how can i make it? [18:38] Skywise, it's the router provided by my ISP provider ... the firewall is not configurable ( i did activate it ... but except openning some ports, i cannot do something else) [18:38] Slackware doesn't brand any of it's apps, so your user agent string won't say "Slackware" anywhere in it [18:38] but i know that i have never opened port 8000,1723 ... [18:38] There are threads on LQ about how to add it to the the UA string in various browsers [18:38] paissad, can you scan your ip externally? [18:38] paissad, what is the router? [18:39] paissad, otherwise i would ask your isp what those ports are for [18:39] logia_th, hmm, a Thomson router ( i don't remember the exact model ) [18:39] MS3FGX: thanks [18:40] ScreamerX (~screamer@chello084115148215.3.graz.surfer.at) left irc: Quit: Verlassend [18:40] Skywise, hmm, in order to scan my ip externally, here is what i did from the LAN [18:40] nmap -p 1-65535 public_ip [18:41] i don't know if i would have as the same results as if i were not in my LAN [18:42] good night to everyone, thanks for your opinions [18:42] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:42] mario__ (~mario@av3-84-90-166-220.netvisao.pt) left irc: Quit: Leaving [18:42] mario__: "Slackware follows a line that everyone agreed"... well, Slackware development does not work that way [18:42] paissad, grc shieldsup, shellium, friends irc etc [18:43] what ? [18:43] for scan [18:44] pupit (~p@unaffiliated/pupit) joined ##slackware. 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[18:54] Nick change: artaud -> artaud_away [18:54] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!~thongsong@li6-30.members.linode.com [18:54] artaud_away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [18:55] artaud_off (~artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) joined ##slackware. [18:56] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:58] slck-o (~cris@200.146.78.239.static.gvt.net.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:59] shonudo (~user@c-174-56-31-0.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) left irc: Changing host [18:59] shonudo (~user@unaffiliated/shonudo) joined ##slackware. [19:00] logia_th, i'm here ;) [19:01] veritos (veritos@207.155.204.151.ptr.us.xo.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:02] what ports? [19:03] is the 50000 one of this? [19:03] 51005 [19:04] artaud_off: wow .. that's just classic... [19:04] aarchvile (~aarchvile@ip-192.viapori.fi) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:05] BP{k}, ?? [19:05] artaud_off: we don't care if you're off/away/whatever. Stop changing your nickname. [19:05] sure [19:05] paissad, tcp or udp? [19:06] felipe (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:06] artaud_off: you join, change your name to away, then get kicked so you join with _off ... that's being an classic arse in my opinion :) [19:06] artaud_off (artaud@unaffiliated/artaud) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [19:06] \o/ [19:08] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [19:09] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210071254.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [19:09] sahko (~grbzks@ppp089210071254.dsl.hol.gr) left irc: Changing host [19:09] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [19:10] cryptic0 (~cryptic0@nat-165-91-15-235.tamulink.tamu.edu) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:15] Zosma (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [19:18] How any scan his own ip? [19:19] hobin (~hobin___@94.125.216.34) joined ##slackware. [19:21] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:23] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) joined ##slackware. [19:24] niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) joined ##slackware. [19:28] Gimped (~Gimped@c-98-248-193-199.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Gimped [19:28] dimmerbold (dimbold@stealth.kirenet.com) got netsplit. [19:28] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) got netsplit. [19:28] RaNdY (randy@hurf.minds.durf.alike.shellium.org) got netsplit. [19:28] redtricycle (~redtricyc@web75.webfaction.com) got netsplit. [19:28] rob0 (rob0@sorry.nodns4.us) got netsplit. [19:28] adrien (~adrien@nautica.notk.org) got netsplit. [19:28] MoZes (~mozes@bourbon.biscuit.org.uk) got netsplit. [19:28] boojit (~boojit@gw.carter.to) got netsplit. [19:30] byteframe (~byteframe@unaffiliated/byteframe) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [19:30] HoldMyPocket (~schoward@smtp.cusonet.com) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [19:31] is there openvpn package for slackware? [19:31] pupiteee (~p@unaffiliated/pupiteee) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [19:32] Razec (~razec@201-92-78-226.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:32] isnt it in n/ ? [19:32] Yeah, I'm pretty sure it comes with Slackware. [19:32] Amsoz (jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:33] dimmerbold (dimbold@stealth.kirenet.com) returned to ##slackware. [19:33] ElectRo` (ElectRo@hack.the.gibson.hackthapla.net) returned to ##slackware. [19:33] RaNdY (randy@hurf.minds.durf.alike.shellium.org) returned to ##slackware. [19:33] redtricycle (~redtricyc@web75.webfaction.com) returned to ##slackware. 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[20:17] briareus: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.1/libraries/db46/ no 4.7 [20:17] grr so almost certainly not for 13.0 then [20:18] >sigh< ok [20:18] usually when it comes to db applications search for a range of versions rather than a specific one [20:18] or, yeah, whatever [20:18] that should make some sense [20:20] sahko (~grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:20] ridout (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:23] le_prof (~prof@dsli59.ody.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:24] unlisted (morgan@rza.unlisted.org) left ##slackware. [20:25] ridout (~glen@unaffiliated/ridout) joined ##slackware. [20:30] le_prof (~prof@dsli59.ody.ca) left irc: Quit: Leaving [20:31] How can I unload a kernel module? [20:31] VirtualBox is not compatible que KVM modules [20:31] rmmod [20:31] rmmod? [20:31] Thank you guys [20:31] Thank you very much [20:32] I owe you a couple of beers! 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[21:29] NaCl: hi [21:30] gabriel (1000@201.215.50.54) left irc: Client Quit [21:30] eternalnewbie (~andrew@cpc2-sout5-0-0-cust241.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [21:30] nyRednek: yo [21:31] NaCl: trying to get all my $#!7 together to secure this position i was offered [21:31] sounds like a blast xD [21:31] NaCl: and also looking for a house to rent(looking a year out) [21:32] even more fun [21:32] NaCl: wanting to get out of the five boroughs [21:32] but i have to stay in the state, preferably about 50 miles out of manhattan [21:33] escape from new york? :P [21:33] which leaves me either north or east of the city [21:33] heh [21:33] either suffolk or orange is what i'm looking at [21:34] suffolk==eastern half of long island [21:34] orange==middle of nowhere on the thruway [21:34] hexhawk (~hawk@unaffiliated/hexhawk) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:34] and the amount i'm willing to pay for rent is probably going to leave me on the mainland [21:35] nik0 (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) joined ##slackware. [21:35] and beyond westchester [21:35] mmm... nothing like the rent... [21:35] westchester is f'ing expensive [21:35] hexhawk (~hawk@unaffiliated/hexhawk) joined ##slackware. [21:36] westchester is more expensive than the bronx [21:36] Is id difficult to add more then 1 graphical teminals to the ctrl alt and F keys ? [21:37] sorry meant to say it instead of id [21:37] newslacker: it's possible, but i'd suggest using the dm for that instead [21:38] o/ [21:38] there's some kdmctl voodoo to make a new x session [21:39] and there's also gdmflexiserver [21:39] Anyone have a recomendation for a VPN server to run in 13.1? [21:39] what do you mean by dm ? [21:39] but gdm isn't included in slack...it's an SBo build [21:39] display manager...your login manager [21:39] I know you can start a new x window with the startx -- :1 command but im wanting to know how you could add it to the f keys [21:40] newslacker: as i said, with kdmctl [21:40] newslacker: assuming you do a graphical login [21:41] i have both kdes and gnomes and yes it is set for a graphical display [21:42] newslacker: as i said, gdmflexiserver will do it [21:43] slck-o (~cris@201.86.13.186.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:45] mavrc (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/mavrc) left irc: Quit: Lost terminal [21:45] BsdNeo_ (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: Quit: leaving [21:45] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.132.230) joined ##slackware. [21:45] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@190.176.132.230) left irc: Changing host [21:45] BsdNeo (~BsdNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) joined ##slackware. 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[22:09] how can you change the terminal font [22:10] StarX (~StarX@unaffiliated/stars) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:10] setfont [22:11] setconsolefont [22:11] run the font script from the setup scripts in pkgtool [22:11] thanks [22:12] NaCl: you mean run that script off the installer? [22:12] yes [22:12] which can be done within pkgtool [22:14] where are fonts stored? [22:15] /usr/share/fonts [22:15] the font script lets you preview them [22:15] which is kinda nice [22:15] cool [22:16] woah [22:16] thanks :D [22:17] np [22:17] hayaka (~kal@cpe-69-205-246-71.stny.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:20] asarch (~asarch@187.132.136.134) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:22] if i just drop more fonts in /usr/share/font will they be available in setconsolefont? [22:23] if they are of the right format, then probably [22:32] Jedman (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/jedman) left irc: Ping timeout: 245 seconds [22:34] deco (~deco@unaffiliated/deco) joined ##slackware. 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[23:00] staus (~staus@pool-98-119-53-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) left irc: Quit: http://irc2go.com/ [23:00] someone from russia? [23:02] rogeriometal (~rogeriome@189.83.137.229) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:03] rogeriometal (~rogeriome@189.83.137.229) joined ##slackware. [23:03] rogeriometal: are you from Russia? [23:05] danc3: no man, but i'm miss to know if someone answer me now [23:05] huh? [23:05] =P [23:05] mail-order-bride transaction gone wrong? [23:05] rogeriometal: do you wish you were from Russia? [23:05] danc3: sorry my English, did you speak another language? [23:06] no, I speak only English [23:06] danc3, no, i'm note from russia [23:06] your original question was "someone from russia?" What does that mean? [23:06] ilj (~ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:07] are you being chased by shady looking characters in trench coats? [23:07] danc3: sorry, forget that, i was miss one help here, with a configuration... [23:07] danc3: but i do myself, with lucky =) [23:07] rogeriometal: can you try to ask about your problem more specifically? [23:08] hexhawk, my users have no access to my partitions [23:08] hexhawk, and, my fstab is correctly [23:09] hexhawk, i don't know what is wrong [23:09] and you want someone to explain it in russian, even though you are not russian yourself? [23:09] in slack 13* [23:10] sahko, sorry, was a joke [23:10] Doe svedanya. [23:10] waffle waffle !! [23:10] ^^ [23:11] In Soviet Russia, partition access YOU. [23:11] thats my kind of partition :) [23:11] uiaheiaheiuhaieuhaiehiauae [23:11] Like the Iron Curtain! [23:11] even large partitions named Buba? [23:12] negative [23:12] Hey, I have one of those vague, unanswerable questions that I will toss out in the faint hope that someone has seen something similar. [23:12] my brain is exausted with this for today [23:13] Something in X/XFCE is dimming the screen of my netbook. Not xscreensaver (disabled now) and not the power management settings. [23:14] rob0: dpms? [23:14] Every time the screen in X sits unused for a few minutes, it goes dim. Does not happen in console, until I switch back into X, and then it's dim in console too. [23:15] rob0: man xset [23:15] yeah I'm familiar with xset, but what is xsetting this? [23:15] this is a recent (week or so) thing [23:17] perhaps a faulty hal policy [23:17] hal, hmmm [23:18] would that explain why it only happens with X? If I stay in console only, it would stay bright indefinitely (even after screen goes blank, it comes back on to full brightness.) [23:19] when installing terminus-font from a slackbuild, make complains that i dont have bdftopcf installed. but i dont have x installed , i only want the font in the console [23:20] Hermann (~Hermannn@c-8c50e255.226-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [23:20] maybe i'll comment out the lines about X font update in doinst.sh? [23:20] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.77.56.180) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [23:21] heh, no that wont work [23:21] rob0: dpms [23:21] you have to use a configure switch or hack the Makefilee [23:21] screensave [23:21] etc [23:21] Makefile* [23:21] xset -dpms and xset s off might work [23:24] freack (~jcn@unaffiliated/freack) left irc: Quit: Leaving [23:24] and even that may not be possible either [23:24] OpenSys (~vasco@fw.vslinux.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [23:24] sahko: that's what i thought too, but (strangely) there is no make file [23:24] ?? [23:25] maybe cause i ran the slackbuild and it failed [23:25] fuzzix (~fuzzix@109.76.175.46) joined ##slackware. [23:26] of course there is a Makefile in the terminus source [23:26] i see. [23:26] i was looking in the slackbuild [23:30] FriedBob (~Drinne@unaffiliated/friedbob) joined ##slackware. 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