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[00:16] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) left irc: "KVM giving me problems!!! Agh!" [00:17] alkos333: wait, it doesn't. however "mouseconfig" (which runs `/var/log/setup/setup.mouse') creates rc.gpm [00:17] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [00:17] aha [00:17] That's what I thought b/c I was just looking at the source for that package [00:18] Cool, I got my opera goodies today. A t-shirt, 2 pens, and a can cooler. :) [00:18] anyway, i've been reading through one slackbuild and found something really weird loop - www.pastebin.com/d64a1e063 [00:18] been meditating upon that stuff for about 10 minutes - no enlightement at all :\ [00:18] and no, there are no symlinks in that dir..at all [00:19] ah, xfce-4.6.1-i486-1_Old_Fogie.tgz is working [00:19] :) [00:19] U-Neeks (n=666@201-24-53-242.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [00:20] john_dee: Unknown post id, it may have expired or been deleted [00:20] what's the advantage of the upgrade,Old_Fogie? [00:20] fevel (n=fevel@200.222.210.88) left irc: [00:20] andarius, try without www [00:20] MLanden, bug fixes for bug's I didnt notice before [00:20] :D [00:20] antler (n=antler@S0106000129d4e75b.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:20] ahhhh...i see...:D [00:20] MLanden, actually I'm doing all upgrades for apps I build, so figured I'd grab the latest [00:20] ok, so now how about the relevant info like which slackbuild it goes to ? [00:20] while I was at it [00:21] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:21] cool...;) [00:21] john_dee: my last was to you, sorry [00:21] MLanden, but I build it on a gtk/glib2 stack higher than in --current, so it's always interesting to build "new" things to say the least, heh [00:22] andarius, it's for scons 1.2.0 [00:22] though i already know what it does [00:22] hear ya,Old_Fogie [00:23] andarius, ? [00:25] if i read it correctly [00:25] find . -type f -exec gzip -9 {} \; gzips all the man pages [00:26] the for removes all the old links and creates new ones to the newly gzipped man pages [00:26] as the old links are not longer valid [00:27] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [00:27] that's the point. there are no links to delete there and no links are created [00:27] are there man pages ? [00:28] that's what confuses me. it gzips the mans as it should but what is this linking loop there for? [00:28] if not the script writer likely just copied and pasted from a qorking build for something else ot a how to. the for only looks for links, if none it does nothing [00:28] I don't understand why my usb mouse doesn't work when I plug it in. [00:28] andarius, yes [00:28] john_dee: see my last. [00:28] the psmodule is installed and the usb device is found..... [00:28] andarius, that makes sense %) [00:28] not all build writers are thorough [00:29] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [00:29] but if you're lazy, why even bother?! [00:29] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) joined ##slackware. [00:30] and i've almost bofed my brain on this. lol [00:30] they want a build for it. having that in there hurts nothing. [00:31] and lazy is not the same as thorough [00:32] pretty much the opposite [00:33] whoohoo 39h20m left to scan this hdd. o_O [00:33] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [00:33] yep, like the nada program. it's only one byte size. it does nothing at all and does it perfectly :D [00:34] lf4: wow, little while over a day left. [00:35] firebird619: I know problem is this hdd makes a high pitch humming noise and its in my room. I might sleep on the couch tonight. [00:36] lf4: haha, just put some foam blocks around it to try and muffle the sound. :P [00:36] the other drive is the same size but everything sees it at 7gb instead of 120 (me thinks its dead or just about to die) :P [00:36] ouch...LOL [00:36] +1 for ouch [00:36] haha yeah I really should just take a 12g to these two drives [00:37] lf4: So is that drive next for a scan. :P [00:37] lol probably not haha and the funny thing is that was my data drive. [00:37] scary [00:37] double ouch. [00:38] this noise I dont think its worth scaning this drive either haha. [00:38] lf4: backed up I hope? :) [00:38] haha nope well not for a while but finally I did. [00:39] I have a fan in my case that makes a squeaking noise now and then. [00:39] I had to learn how to manually repair patitions because that drive died on me twice and I still needed to get my data off it. [00:39] lol funny firebird619 [00:40] I got a fan I think in the psu of one of my boxes speeding up/slowing down (only around boot time - til the pc warms up) , I think I got a dying psu actually, and it's a horizontal case, gonna be tuff to find them around here. [00:41] Which PSU,Old_Fogie? [00:41] When it boots, I say "come on old girl - you can do it!" [00:41] Old_Fogie: yeah norizontal cases are a thing of the past pretty much. :D the orignal "desktop". [00:41] haha [00:41] lol [00:41] s/norizontal/horizontal [00:41] Old_Fogie: I had a pc where the psu went out, but unfortunately took the mobo with it. :( [00:42] it's an antec 350 psu but for a horiz case. it has air intakes in much diff location than that of a typical psu. I might have to hack something together. [00:42] it might be 325 W now I think of it. it's got a radeon 9600xt in it. [00:42] so I know it's 'up there' in watts. [00:43] Old_Fogie PSU's $79.99 + $10 if modifications are required. :) [00:43] I got win xp running on it now, with the asus utility pc probe to monitor the fans, gimme a graph, and then I go from there. [00:43] lol nice just don't get a big shock if you mess around with getting a new one to work. [00:43] I'm hoping it's not a mobo issue [00:43] Old_Fogie: Don't mess with the capacitor, you might get shocked right on in to yard sale season. :P [00:43] hahah [00:44] this noise is annoying me and to think I use to sleep when it would do this. I have to get out of the room lol talk to you later people :) [00:44] later lf4 [00:46] yea, psu's and hard drives. two items, I feel like I'm constantly changing some out per year. never cpu's, cd rom (oh IDE cables too), or ram.. [00:47] I just replaced an hdd this year, 2 120's for a 640 GB. :) The one hdd was making a weird noise now and then, so I didn't take any chances on waiting for it to fail. [00:48] Can be quite a nightmare when it does happen,firebird619 [00:49] MLanden, I second that. I have two old boxes that are just kicked on every day or so, and all the other boxes rsync over to it. [00:49] MLanden: Yes, it sure can. I've never had an hdd fail on me though. I did have one where lightning from out of nowhere struck, the power went out just long enough that there was a surge, and then the hdd was completely erased. I had to reinstall everything. [00:49] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [00:49] There's not enoght time in my life to cd/dvd everything . it's easier to have an old box for back ups [00:50] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.90.43) joined ##slackware. [00:50] let alone duplicates... oh man. [00:50] fdupes is a good helper tho [00:50] I dvd everything, plus backup the *really* important stuff to both dvd and external hard drive. [00:50] as is a simple md5sum and time stamps but man [00:50] i just mirror important data on a server and the really important stuff gets dvd-r + fire safe [00:51] yeah, I got about 2 dvd's worth of stuff i really need to do [00:51] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.80.45) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:51] 1 dual layer dvd then. :P [00:51] oh it's just laziness, I got no excuse to do it [00:52] not do it [00:52] i meant [00:52] Old_Fogie: start backing up to bluray. :P [00:52] I dont think I'll buy blueray [00:52] you cant burn them (from what i read) and if you do, the chances of someone being able to read thm on their blueray is slim to none (again from what I read) [00:53] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:53] I've read nothing but horror stories about them for data storage [00:54] new technology...once they get past the 16x burn stage then there'll be better ECC methods [00:54] I haven't really read much about them, so I can't really comment about that aspect. [00:54] MLanden: Yeah, there's always something new/different coming out. [00:54] blueray, just sounds like a way for the movie companys to get people stop copying dvds, cuz it has no compatibility amongst even itself. [00:55] I'll save my money til' they figure it out [00:55] I'm sure that won't stop people from copying though. It seems like a way around it is always figured out. [00:56] I did the same thing with hdtv's. everyone went gaga over them, and got stuck with a lousy hd format, that many of the tvs' now dont even do. [00:56] the industry was shipping all them diff format hdtv's and none of them were standard. but everyone's gotta have the latest greatest and get burnt in the end. [00:57] Yeah, it's better to wait and let things get straightened out. [00:57] only thing next with video is true 3d [00:57] oh yea, even these ssd disks, on the netbooks, they got a lot of data loss, intel aint even shipped a fix yet. [00:57] and then smellovision. :P [00:57] there's a perfect example [00:57] of why not to buy bleeding edge hardware [00:58] indeed [00:58] true [00:58] i got all sata drives for my netbooks, I said 'hmmm 8gig ssd that has a fixed amount of read/writes' or '160gig proven sata tecnoology' [00:58] no question in my head there on that one [00:59] yeah, no kidding, go for the sata. [00:59] http://zip.4chan.org/k/src/1240891181225.jpg [00:59] dream girl! [00:59] the ssd's are just too new yet. [00:59] firebird619, fixed read/write just stinks in my book, it's just not an option. [00:59] right.....100,000 writes before lockup [00:59] nullboy: what about the hardware store girl? :) [01:00] she's pretty good too [01:00] superGear (i=supergea@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: [01:00] but the one in the pic is wearing doc Martens and riding a bazzooka [01:00] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-75-35-180-38.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:00] for crying out loud! [01:00] nullboy: haha [01:00] nullboy: find her and you can go blow stuff up together, perfect first date. [01:00] yes! [01:01] dude seriously, if a girl is down to go to the range for a first date....she's mine [01:01] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:01] Sarah Palin comes to mind [01:01] Could help ya overcome your gun dreams...:D [01:01] but i have a feeling that 90% of the women i see would totally flip out if i suggested that [01:01] mogunus (n=user@173.9.7.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:02] move to alaska, might be cold to surf in tho nullboy [01:02] Hey what'd you do on your first date? "Well, me and this girl were shooting a bazooka at stuff, then, we heard sirens, so we got the ..... out of there." [01:02] judging by the boots i would say she is an army girl [01:02] "umm yeah so...wanna go out to the gun range and shoot of large firearms for our first date?" her "waa wa WHAAAAT?!?!" [01:03] amd her bra is visible through her shirt... [01:03] i can tell that the girl a asked out today is not a gun girl [01:03] nullboy: and the response you'd prefer "sure, lets go." <3 <3 <3. :P [01:03] not a chance [01:03] firebird619: yeah man [01:03] i'd be so down [01:04] btw i have the same boots as that girl in the pic [01:04] neonflux (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:04] You wouldn't want to upset bazooka girl though, you might walk out to a flaming pile of metal that was once your car. [01:04] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-164-127.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "there are some things i simply cant do, a half ass job is one of them" [01:05] nullboy: wow, your perfect for each other. :) [01:05] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-68-127-157-235.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [01:05] lol [01:05] bazookaboy! [01:05] hey that's a good one [01:05] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:05] Nick change: nullboy -> bazookaboy [01:05] Does bazooka girl + bazooka boy = boom? [01:05] maybe you could mmaoirc here bazookaboy [01:06] her [01:06] Nick change: bazookaboy -> nullboy [01:06] MMAoIRC yeah baby [01:06] :) [01:06] they that's another never...i've never met a girl IRL who knows what IRC is [01:06] let's start a nationwide search for bazooka girl, nullboy's future depends on it. :) [01:10] stillborn (n=blow_my_@YKDCCXXVI.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [01:10] man, i want that girl to call me but i'm afraid that i was too blunt about it [01:11] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [01:11] nullboy: blunt about going to the gun range? [01:11] define 'blunt' [01:12] nothing wrong with, your pretty, I like you, lets eat hamburgers and see where things go [01:12] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "link closed" [01:12] i straight up asked her if she had a boyfriend which seemed to pretty much floor her. she started blushing and said no. then i asked if she ever wanted to go out and she could only say i don't know [01:12] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [01:12] hrm, what would I use to search all *.log in ~? I tried grep -i "term" ~/*.log and *.log, but they don't work. [01:12] Old_Fogie: so then i just gave her my card and that was that. [01:12] nullboy: give it a little time. You have her number? give her a call in a day or two. :P [01:13] nullboy, hey if she can't 'handle' direct, and wants to 'play games' do you really wanna bother? there's so many girls in the world, dont waste time. [01:13] i don't have her's [01:13] nullboy: good for the first part. Bad for the second. [01:13] Hey rworkman. How are you doing? [01:13] 'gave her your card' <--- that's a no no [01:13] damn it [01:13] nullboy: Just look for bazooka girl. [01:13] nullboy: She blushed. Once you see that, it's not "would you like to go out?" -- it's "Is this Friday or Saturday better for you?" [01:13] firebird619: ola [01:14] damn this i screwed it over [01:14] not necessarily. You had a sure thing but you might not now. :) [01:14] nullboy: now learn from your mistakes and move on. :) [01:14] It's easy to see that sort of thing now from the vantage point of a married guy. [01:14] yeah if you see the blush, come up with a joke, even "hey I dont mean to put you on the spot here, but lifes to short. your pretty, i like you, lets go for a hamburger, bring a girl firend if you like, how's friday?" boom done. and dont leave without the phone number [01:14] If only I could be single again and know then what I know now. [01:14] so say i wait for her to call for a while, like give a a week. would it be too weird to go back to the store and say hi? [01:15] nullboy: she works there? [01:15] yeah she works a the hardware store [01:15] at* [01:15] hehe [01:15] ask her to look your "screw driver" over for flaws [01:15] nullboy, aint nothing wroing with stopping in. it's when you *follow them home* that's a problem :) [01:15] Dominian: lol [01:16] Sure, go back after a week or so, and buy something in another area. Be sure she sees you, but don't hunt her down. Don't go out of your way to speak, but don't ignore her either. [01:16] man, getting to most wacked code to compile or debugging networks is so much easier than this crap [01:16] Yep. [01:16] I say seranade her man. [01:16] Code fails in predictable ways. Women don't. [01:16] lol [01:16] stand out on the street with a boombox, like that movie :) [01:16] rworkman: ain't that the thruth :) [01:17] BTW, I know at least one female who knows what IRC is. She's a 9th grader in one of my classes. [01:17] hahaha [01:17] Seriously. I was shocked when she mentioned something about an IRC client. [01:17] hehe. I actually met kethry on irc. :) [01:17] :) [01:18] rworkman, she probably is a female brainiac hacker with spambots [01:18] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [01:18] I'd call the fbi on her :) [01:18] so was that really stupid to give a card? [01:18] yes [01:18] you gave her your card? [01:18] Old_Fogie: she's a relatively bright kid. An awkward freshman, but relatively bright nonetheless. [01:18] Dominian: yep, and apparently that is bad [01:18] Like "hey, yeah, I'm busy.. here's my card.. *wink*" [01:18] it's like saying "if your board, call me as I aint got the guts to hear no right now" [01:19] she couldn't even talk [01:19] nullboy: not necessarily. I gave my wife a card with only an email address on it the night we met. [01:19] not that I dont think you got the guts, but that is the impression you might give [01:19] an.... email... address? [01:19] after i asked her if she had a boy friend she could barely speak [01:19] oooo [01:19] that means "yeah, but I'll leave him for you" [01:19] hehe [01:19] well if that's the case, based on rworkman's luck..then run nullboy run! [01:19] hah [01:20] marriage, kids, a mortgage, you dont want that :) [01:20] Dominian: yep. :) At the time, it was unimportant to me whether she contacted me or not. I was content with my life, and I guess it showed. Women seem to view that as a challenge. [01:20] lol [01:20] yup, they want what they cant have, and love the foot that kicks em [01:21] i bet you get hit on now more then ever that your married. raise your a married guy and that's true. the wedding ring screams to single chicks 'come get me' [01:21] 'raise your hand' [01:21] No comment. [01:21] :D [01:21] Action: Old_Fogie waves his hands [01:21] very true. sad, but true [01:21] heh [01:21] I do enjoy going out with the guys. :D [01:21] now all i can think of is when will farrell takes a dart to the neck and all he can mutter is "IS THAT BAD?" [01:21] great. [01:21] I think its more of a sign of stability than anything [01:22] nullboy: walk in tomorrow.. right up to her.. and be like "I'm an idiot." [01:22] Then ask her out [01:22] what you got to lose? [01:22] or 'well if some women married him, he must not be a serial case of some kind... i must have him now" [01:22] Dominian: that is so tempting [01:22] nullboy: I'd do it [01:22] IRDUMB [01:22] I wouldn't. :) [01:22] bah [01:22] i'll wait for 3 days [01:22] rworkman plays it too safe [01:22] 3 days! [01:23] 3 days she'll be on a date with a guy that didn' thand her the card [01:23] Action: Dominian ducks [01:23] yeah no shit huh [01:23] superGear (i=supergea@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [01:23] I'm telling you - you don't want to seem overeager. [01:23] Well, usually. [01:23] stillbor1 (n=blow_my_@MYDCCCXIII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:24] the only thing that gives me a good vibe is that she was utterly floored. i totally blind sided her and her facial expressions didn't seem to be negative...more stunned than anything [01:24] like that hasn't happened to her ever sort of look [01:24] maybe she had gas? [01:24] rofl [01:24] "OMG...he just asked me out and I tooted..whoopsie" [01:24] lol [01:24] There are no easy answers. Generally, you don't want to seem overeager. However, sometimes a "straight to the point" proposition will end quite well. There was this one instance in college... [01:24] see now i knew to expect this from ##slacwkare but i also knew that i would get some decent advice [01:25] yeah, chicks are funny that way :) [01:25] s/that way// [01:25] just tell her, you came back to tell her a funny story, from this time...at band camp... (chicks luv band camp stories) [01:25] ... where we were hanging out at the firing range, drinking and such, and I asked "so what would you do if I suggested we venture off into the woods?" -- she didn't say a word; just grabbed my pants and led the way. [01:26] dang. [01:26] haha [01:26] alcohol++ [01:26] yes, alcohol, guns, and woods, getting me teary eyed here [01:26] :) [01:26] that was back in the 1880s [01:26] for Old_Fogie [01:27] haha [01:27] There was also a Backdraft scene relived with that same girl later on... [01:27] nice, pictures or it didn't happen :) [01:27] Alas, I'll hush - this is venturing into boasting... :D [01:27] I wish I had some pics. [01:27] hahaha [01:28] rworkman: that's it? [01:28] We really do not wanna go there [01:28] ;) [01:28] That's it? ?? huh? [01:28] he wants detail [01:28] every second [01:28] She was Catholic. Does that help? :) [01:28] Action: Dominian fears noobfarm [01:29] haha [01:29] Action: rworkman too [01:29] I'm boycotting noobfarm [01:29] although i do admin the site... hrm [01:29] they had straterra pictures, that have caused me emotional damage now [01:29] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-55-215-34.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:29] wtf is noobfarm? [01:29] links to pic's of him, oh my word [01:29] :) [01:30] man noobfarm [01:30] just in case anyone is thinking of looking now I said that...don't [01:30] rworkman: get that PM? [01:30] yes :) [01:30] rworkman: see now why I didnt post it public? [01:30] lol [01:31] Yes :) [01:31] I replied privately too. :) [01:31] I see that [01:31] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:32] hey no secrets up in here, what gives you two [01:32] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [01:32] what if i make a special card for these types of situations instead? [01:32] * Old_Fogie starts drooling uncontrollably [01:32] like one that just says: International Man of Mystery [01:32] nullboy: then it makes you look like a player [01:32] You ever see those "You're an asshole." cards? [01:32] nullboy, that would scream stalker [01:32] like, when you meet jerks [01:32] you can give them a card [01:32] redtricycle: wait.. didn't someone give you one of those cards? [01:33] I just tell them, "you're an asshole." [01:33] ok this might change the situation, i left out a slight detail. she was working at the counter and there was a another person behind me waiting [01:33] that was part of it [01:33] Dominian: I heard about it..yeah...that's right... [01:33] >_> [01:33] <_< [01:33] http://bigpicture.typepad.com/writing/2004/10/urban_asshole_n.html googled...crappy bg and text color choice tho o_o [01:34] Oh wait, the page just didnt load. it looks fine [01:34] nullboy: next time you visit, go through another line. Wave at her as you leave, and go on about your business. Trust me. [01:34] Or not wave [01:34] make her do the first move [01:34] or that. [01:34] just do a "double take" like.. "Oh HEY! didn't see you but I gotta run!" [01:34] cave man style i say [01:34] club her, and drag her ass [01:34] But that might be trying fo rthe "you're an asshole" card. [01:34] lol kidding ofcourse [01:34] Er, the "double take" is good though. [01:34] i think she usually works in that one department [01:34] just in case the fbi agetns are reading [01:35] but it would be possible to wave [01:35] rworkman: nah you're an asshole card would be more like looking.. no expression.. then blowing he roff [01:35] :) [01:35] that has earned me quite a few "asshole" cards [01:35] hehehe [01:35] poopsenders.com! [01:35] My wife says that when we are in walmart or what not.. women always stare at me [01:35] ok so what i learned from bring this up with a linux help channel: 1. cards are ghey 2. next time, get HER number 3. haste kills. [01:35] I never even notice but she does. [01:35] Action: Dominian shrugs [01:35] Well, I should go to bed, or I'm going to "you're a tired and sleepy asshole who drank too much last night" tomorrow [01:36] night rw [01:36] hehe [01:36] me too night guys [01:36] nullboy: haste doesnt kill when you're dashingly good looking [01:36] cu Dominian [01:36] night,rworkman [01:36] good night rworkman and Dominian. [01:36] night,Dominian [01:36] i better just ramp this shit up and turn it into a numbers game [01:37] nullboy, those three things sound right to me, yup (and I'm not kidding - just to be clear) [01:37] Old_Fogie: believe it or not, i feel like it is possible to get *some* decent advice in here ;) [01:37] nullboy, really that' a lot of it. there are so many women out there, dont be shy. ask out 100 , and your odds are better than if you ask out 1 you know what I mean. [01:37] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:38] it's an 'odds' game [01:38] I wonder what advice nullboy would get in #ubuntu or #windows? :P [01:38] becuase to go all that time, and wait for one girl, you could have dated/discarded/or fell in luv with another [01:38] nullboy,just catch a person on a good night and most times,there woudn [01:38] or more [01:38] my problem is that i see very few women who i'd even consider asking out and this was on of the few [01:39] there all pretty in bed, with the lights out nullboy [01:39] oh no not like that [01:39] here is why i picked this one; no make up at all, simple hair, seemed very unassuming and friendly [01:40] dang...s/there woudn/there wouldn't be frat boy mentality [01:40] nullboy: no makeup or anything. It wouldn't take here hours to get ready to go somewhere. :D [01:40] that's hard to find these days [01:40] when your young, you gotta wet the whistle. you dont even know what you want to do with your life, let alone what kind of woman is really right for ya. try em' all I say. [01:40] as long as they dont look like 'trigger' your fine. [01:41] or like lorena bobbit [01:41] trigger=ugly betty [01:41] lol [01:41] nullboy: you wouldn't want to get into a mess like that. :) [01:41] lol [01:42] plus, I come in here, I gotta live vicariously thru you guys, so I need you to put your best foot forward here nullboy :) [01:42] alright then so i have to do this again tomorrow [01:42] this is hard work [01:42] hard, but worth it in the end, don't you think. :) [01:43] especially for an intorvert like me. just those 5 minutes were draining [01:43] hardware store girl, hmmm,, "I got this tool I wanna show ya *wink*wink*" [01:43] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) joined ##slackware. [01:43] nullboy: at least your opening line wasn't "Hey gorgous, what distro do you use?" [01:43] i'd probably get arrested [01:43] rofl [01:44] nullboy, let's hope that line doesnt go thru your head randomly there tomorrow lol [01:44] lol [01:44] 'when you screw, what tools do you prefer, I know this old guy on irc and he was wondering" [01:44] haha [01:44] ewww [01:44] man, I got a gazillion hardware store jokes goin thru my head now :) [01:45] Old_Fogie: right them down, nullboy may need them later. :) [01:45] yeah, hee hee [01:45] that would be a sure fire way to get slapped [01:45] well, then I guess telling her your nickname is "jackhammer"... ok scratch that one :) [01:45] omfg [01:45] lol [01:46] roll, cough cough rofl [01:47] ya aright,Old_Fogie? [01:47] hahah, I got tears out my eyeballs now, lol [01:47] Action: firebird619 gives Old_Fogie a glass of water. :) [01:47] yeah, maybe that's over the top, tell her you stopped in for some wd-40 then, cuz you really value 'lubrication' [01:47] haha [01:47] Action: Old_Fogie takes the water, and gulps it :) [01:49] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.77.72.182) left irc: "nite" [01:49] if dating was like network security: initial_contact = ping sweep, first_date = connect() scan, second_date = telnet the open ports, third_date = all out netcat [01:49] I've seen a greeting card (birthday no less) that was something like "In life your either a hammer or a nail" Inside: "So, on your birthday do you want to get hammered or nailed". [01:50] after that you've got an open session until the connection breaks down [01:50] lol [01:50] being able to type that out is probably part of the reason i suck at real dating so much [01:51] nullboy: Either single, dating, or in a relationship, the most important is being happy and content with how life's going. [01:51] yep [01:51] bbiab [01:52] i'm feeling pretty good but I have finally started to feel like it would be nice to have someone to laugh at me in real life [01:52] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) left irc: "So long and thanks for all the fish" [01:52] it has taken ~6 years to warm back up [01:53] yup, just get back in the game. worse thing you hear is 'no'. the more times you hear 'no' it gets easier, and in time you'll heare 'yes' [01:53] Life's strange in that way...but in a good way [01:54] nullboy, it's like your analogy there, the ping sweep. you gotta knock all 65000+ doors (ports) to get in somewhere ya know. [01:54] it's all a numbers game, really I aint kidding. [01:54] yep [01:55] time to start up a full out sweep [01:55] the more times you ask girls out, the better chance you got to going out with one [01:55] it's natural, we all been there. [01:55] 'Specially,from the ones that said no only to be married 2 or 3 times or more(shutter) [01:55] it's just better to realize that fact, sooner then later. some guys never realize it, to their own detriment. [01:56] says the old fogie... :) [01:56] yup [01:56] :D [01:56] i think it's really a matter of getting over ones own pride and just forgetting about the no's [01:56] nullboy, that's exactly what it's about [01:56] really [01:56] nullboy... [01:57] so for the first shot in a long time it wasn't a flat out no! [01:57] Action: Necos prods nullboy [01:57] she couldn't even talk at all [01:57] lmao [01:57] more times then not, you'll *never* *ever* see them again, so who cares I say. just ask em' out, and move on if 'no' is the answer. [01:57] i live like at most an hr from nullboy... gonna have to put him under my wing and teach him some game [01:57] lol [01:57] yes [01:57] i need a wing man [01:57] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) joined ##slackware. [01:57] it's not like your on TV, and the whole world is watching, so who cares. [01:58] i have no problem with getting rejected... i'll prolly be single so long as i live in socal :) [01:58] every guy has been shot down , it's what gives ya the thick skin to deal with real matters in life. [01:58] says the married guy... [01:58] shhhhhh! [01:58] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:59] hahaha [01:59] lol slackware turned in to a social dating help hotline? [01:59] no, go back to sleep... you're dreaming [01:59] Necos: I'm with you haha ;) no fun getting regected. [01:59] hey they help me out with my slackware, I can give some pointers on things I know :) [01:59] many nights, the off-topic is politics, this is a nice change [01:59] True you are married so you must have done something right :) [02:00] or she just got tired of giving him the cold shoulder [02:00] If it were politics I'd stay out lol never liked that. [02:00] I used the cave man technique, and drug her back to my cave :) [02:00] wooohoo! [02:00] superGear (i=supergea@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) left irc: [02:00] Action: Necos high-fives Old_Fogie [02:00] Necos: All girls seem to play "hard to get" if not I called them ECEG [02:00] haha [02:00] lf4: most of the time we are semantic pricks but when it's OT time YAY [02:00] ECEG? lf4 [02:00] easy come easy go [02:01] Necos: yep [02:01] ah yup [02:01] right on [02:01] nullboy, it's not that we're semantic pricks... it's that we've let things get out of hand [02:02] now that's an awesome take on it [02:02] This one I was hoping... lol is playing really hard to get pretty much to the point of move on. [02:02] we need to have more spine and not let women demand things of us they themselves don't want to give [02:02] nullboy, now when I was a teen , if you asked out a girl you just met, it was ok then, to say 'bring a friend', I dont know how the girls today look at that, but to me that's classy, and gives her a sense that you're not a 'freak'. but take from that what you will. [02:02] Necos: I fully agree but sadly it does not seem like it will ever happen. [02:02] Old_Fogie: for me, i think that makes it harder [02:02] lf4, oh yes it will [02:02] nullboy, yes/no...you may get the friend too :) [02:03] or just the friend :) [02:03] or both..yummie :) [02:03] lol [02:03] nullboy, nah, it doesn't make it harder... it gives you options ^_~ [02:03] Old_Fogie: these days we call it the friend shield. the friend starts to get in the way and tries to shut down the male's attempts [02:03] nullboy, that's just female cock-blockin [02:03] lol [02:03] lol [02:03] lol [02:03] lol [02:03] Old_Fogie: heck I'd do that but this girl is always busy with family so whats your advice? [02:03] nullboy, would it be so bad to even have them become 'friends'... who knows..they have 'friends' and could lead you to one that really is for you. You see, it's all about 'working' it, [02:04] bring 10 then [02:04] the fogie is quite wise in this neck of the woods [02:04] ^_^ [02:04] work the crowd I say [02:04] Old_Fogie: Your givin alot of advice, better start charging. :P [02:04] Haha nice nullboy [02:04] shhhh firebird619! [02:04] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:04] haha [02:04] or brother slackers need it ^_^ [02:04] it's true tho, you could meat a nice girl, go on a date, and it dont work out. but she could hook you up with a friend of hers. you never know. [02:04] that's why you gotta *get out there* [02:04] Necos: I don't think he seen it, your good. :) [02:05] instead of sticking around ##slackware ;) [02:05] hahahahaha [02:05] i'm serious tho nullboy... if ya need a wingman, let me know [02:05] ^_^ [02:05] this is going to be so bad [02:05] LOL [02:05] redtricycle (n=lionel@adsl-68-125-161-157.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: "Leaving." [02:06] two linux geeks [02:06] this about the girl that he gave the card to? [02:06] The shirt I got from Opera today with my goodies says "browse me" on the front. :) [02:06] "oh, this is my bro from ##slackware" [02:06] lol [02:06] lol [02:06] lol [02:06] nice firebird619 [02:06] that would be fuckin awesome [02:06] and goddamn it firebird619, gimme that shirt! [02:06] lf4: I know, it's great. [02:06] i can see $her now "um wwhat the hell is a channel?" [02:06] like TV channel? [02:06] lol [02:06] Necos: :P [02:07] Firefox crashed on me and I cant kill the process lol stupid zombies [02:07] nullboy: You never know, maybe she'll know what it is. [02:07] might be suprised if she's tech-savvy,nullboy...:D [02:08] lf4: See, should use opera, you might get a browse me shirt. :) [02:08] that's when you get scared... your porn stash is threatened [02:08] thats when nullboy would faint because it would be his dream girl. [02:08] MLanden: that could make it worse because then she'd know what all our touch touch finger mount fsck jokes mean [02:08] firebird619, tried the dev versions? I havent yet, was wondering how it is [02:08] lol firebird619 I do use opera... I use both FF and O :) [02:08] Old_Fogie: I've been using the latest snapshots, VERY stable. [02:08] ah nice firebird619 [02:08] Old_Fogie: an new snapshot is due out this week. [02:09] true,nulboy [02:09] hehehe [02:09] Old_Fogie: They're not even into beta yet, I am amazed by the stability. [02:10] nullboy: If she's tech savy, don't tell her about the ##slackware logs if she doesn't know about them, that'd reveal everything, you could just be careful what you say from now on. :P [02:11] yeah oh man that would be bad [02:11] if she found noobfarm i'm done for [02:11] ##slackware logs?!?! :) [02:11] i told ya, your porn stash would be compromised [02:11] haha [02:12] you never know maybe she'd have her own stash [02:12] she might even be in some of them :) [02:12] nullboy: just hope for the best and that she barely uses a computer, now and then im's and mostly text messages and calls people on her cell phone. [02:12] see this just under scores the necessity of ssh tunnels and disk encryption. [02:12] Old_Fogie: anything's possible. [02:12] lol [02:12] hahah, yup [02:12] LOL [02:13] one reason to use linux... hardly anyone would understand what they are looking for if they wanted. [02:14] nullboy: If you get the girl and she's around your pc and non tech savy, just kill x and leave it at cli, she'll be clueless. [02:14] hell yeah [02:14] i actually got some of my students to start using linux with training wheels aka ubuntu [02:14] agrees with firebird619 [02:14] just flipping over to VT6 would do it [02:14] nullboy: yup. [02:14] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [02:15] even a tech savy windows user is pretty lost in linux file structure. [02:16] nullboy: just start something that will take a while to compile, if she asks just say "I'm downloading the internet, it takes a while" [02:16] lol,firebird619 [02:16] "i'm rebuilding the gibson, don't worry about it hun" [02:16] lol [02:16] lf4: if non tech savy, even in mc, somewhat gui looking, they'd be lost. [02:16] haha [02:17] lol true [02:17] yes, but dont tell her you 'surfraw' (heh, a play on the cli browser name) :) [02:17] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:18] If she asks to browse the web, throw her into elinks. :P [02:18] lol [02:18] Gimped (n=Gimped@adsl-75-55-215-34.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:18] for e-mail, alpine or mutt. [02:18] just hide the ascii porn too [02:18] hahah [02:18] haha [02:18] >.> [02:18] fail [02:18] lol [02:19] the ascii porn is the _FIRST_ thing you hide [02:19] If you have that up, just enter "clear" [02:19] \o/ lower have removed due to censoring [02:19] lol [02:20] hahahaha [02:20] darn it I cant spell/type while doing this brb [02:20] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) left irc: "rebooting" [02:20] hahaha [02:21] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@static062038244013.dsl.hol.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:21] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [02:22] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) joined ##slackware. [02:22] salut salut salut [02:23] Hello The-Croupier. How's it going? [02:23] The-Croupier: any dating advice for nullboy? He likes a girl at the hardware store. [02:24] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [02:24] dont buy unneeded hardware ;) [02:24] lol [02:24] hahha! [02:24] haha [02:24] thats the best advice [02:24] nullboy, is she nice? [02:24] yeah [02:24] age? [02:25] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [02:25] dunno [02:25] roughly guess? [02:25] i asked her out today and it sort of ended poorly [02:25] age guess...24-27 [02:25] The-Croupier: He gave her his card. [02:25] nullboy, well...one step at a time...what did you say? "ask her " [02:25] apparently, giving someone a card is not cool [02:26] nullboy, never was [02:26] lol who said that? [02:26] i was not aware of this since i have no female skillz [02:26] nullboy: you saving this log for later reference? :) [02:26] oh i got it all don't worry [02:26] lol [02:26] nullboy, unless your card says: modeling agent, owner of line of hotels no its not cool [02:27] nullboy: not to worry, girls prefer you are direct. Something like "hi can I grease your cornhole" tends to go over quite well. [02:27] poorly? nah... [02:27] Hey any xfce-4.6.X users I got a nice "hack" for the XFCE to use kde's menu's and not xfce's. I just did this "cd /etc/xfce/xdg/menus" then "mv xfce-applications.menu xfce-applications.menu.orig" then "ln -s /etc/kde/xdg/menus/applications.menu xfce-applications.menu" now I dont have that *blasted* other menu with over 100 items. ymmv. hopefully I have no typeoes in that command, I didnt copy/paste them here. [02:27] nullboy, what did you say to her [02:27] Old_Fogie: seriously? [02:27] The-Croupier: one sec i'll recap [02:28] ok ;) [02:28] firebird619, yup no lie. *NOW* xfce is useable imo. [02:28] Old_Fogie: Cool, I'll bbiab, then I'll try it. [02:28] xfce's menu's are a nightmare, but this, ooh baby [02:28] Old_Fogie, what was wrong with xfce menus.. i like them :( [02:28] i straight up asked her if she had a boyfriend which seemed to pretty much floor her. she started blushing and said no. then i asked if she ever wanted to go out and she could only say i don't know. i was in her check out line and there was another person behind me. so since she seemed a little speechless i just said "tell you what, here is my card" [02:28] Old_Fogie, greetings by the way [02:28] me too, swtich to diff box, brb [02:28] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [02:29] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:29] nullboy, nice [02:29] ok, time to get pwned in L4D... i'll be back... [02:29] nullboy, when was this? [02:29] L4D? [02:29] The-Croupier: today [02:29] left 4 dead [02:29] oh [02:29] laters ^_^ [02:29] later Necos [02:29] nullboy, well, go back there tomorrow.. ;) [02:30] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:30] The-Croupier, hi. the menu's ? well I have a lot of apps. the new version of xfce dont let you make custom menus. so since i build gnome, and alot of other stff, the menus are a nightmare. [02:30] The-Croupier, so now, I got xfce using the menu layout of kde, [02:30] The-Croupier: you're the second person who said to go back tomorrow [02:30] so it's not a mess no more. [02:30] The-Croupier: other's say don't [02:30] The-Croupier: so, go back or wait a few days to see if she calls? [02:30] nullboy, do they sell flowers? [02:30] edman007: nope, hardware store...big box [02:30] the big ones usually do... [02:30] nullboy, no woman will ever call... if she does ...I SAY DONT GO OUT WITH HER [02:31] well technically they have flowers...that are in dirt [02:31] nullboy, don't worry...i haz no skillz either...last night i got a girl to come over, and all that happened was we studied for stuff... [02:31] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.21.16) joined ##slackware. [02:31] The-Croupier: so you think going back and saying hi would be ok or is that stalkerish? [02:32] edman007: dude i've done that too except it was even worse [02:32] Old_Fogie, i see.. i would like custom menus in xfce..but i dont have that many apps,also..i dont like their icons on folders and such but thats pretty much it [02:32] edman007, damn man...:( [02:32] worse? [02:32] edman007: i met a girl on the internet...yeah yeah...anyway she comes over to my apartment and all we did was sit there and talk and i could even tell she wanted to do a more but i didn't [02:32] edman007, i never had a girl over that didnt see the bedroom.. including close friends [02:32] rworkman, take a look at what I mentioned there regarding menu's,you might fidn that interesting for xfce menus [02:33] The-Croupier: so in all honestly, you think i should go back and not wait for her? what about wait a couple days and then go back? [02:33] The-Croupier, :( [02:33] Old_Fogie, is that all it is about the menus ...or do i have to do something else ? [02:33] nullboy, DO YOU LIKE HER? [02:33] well yeah [02:34] i wouldn't have done this much [02:34] i'm not kidding when i say this is the first girl i have decided to even give the time of day to in years [02:34] then just go back.. play it cool(whatever that mean for you) say hi..ask her what she is up to these days [02:34] and i mean daySSSSS [02:35] so The-Croupier is a ladies man [02:35] DONT tell her anything about you...as little as possible really... [02:35] damn bastard [02:35] The-Croupier: well i guess i screwed up by giving her a card [02:35] that's alli could think to do [02:35] and just say.."ohh do yo mind me asking what time do you finish today? [02:35] nullboy, thats not that bad [02:35] you can cover it up [02:36] The-Croupier, maybe the ladies are just more liberal where you are... [02:36] just say the above, she will tell you what is doing these day, then what time she finishes... [02:36] then just say..welll.... dont be shy to call me ... [02:37] or better off...since they like us to make the first movesssss...say i wouldnt mind calling you if you are shy or something [02:37] what if i just level with her...something like 'i sort of rushed out the last time blah blah, want to get some coffee after work?' [02:37] well something on those lines...depending of what she looks like..kind off [02:37] lol [02:37] I come back 6 hours later and use are still on the same subject :P [02:38] nullboy, too cheesy [02:38] why do i feel like i'm going to get arrested? [02:38] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:38] is that normal? [02:38] nullboy, you probably are ;) lol [02:38] hahaha [02:38] mornin' [02:38] nullboy, well it just says that you havent dated for a long time ...its alright [02:38] the last thing i'd want is for her to get in trouble at her job [02:38] tewmten, quite, we are learning how to get chicks [02:39] this shit is hard [02:39] hahaha [02:39] nullboy, come on man... [02:39] edman007: haha [02:39] nullboy, listen...... [02:39] The-Croupier: i'll do it but it sure won;t feel right [02:39] Tonight, this channel is better than T.V. [02:39] what will not feel right...get what you want?! [02:39] The-Croupier: no the going back to her work part [02:40] that seems strangely stalkerish but it's the only way [02:40] nullboy, is there another way to see her? [02:40] nope [02:40] so.... [02:40] so it's go for it or nothing [02:40] nullboy, if you dont go...that means you are not interested... [02:40] well i guess i know what i have to do [02:40] if you go too many times and you dont tell her anything it is stalkerish [02:40] i have to build a space helicopter. [02:40] if you do go a couple of times...tell her kind of what i told you [02:41] you wil be fine [02:41] nullboy, ohhh and PLEASE do NOT tell her any JOKES [02:41] yeah [02:41] i understand that part [02:41] The-Croupier: she has seen me before in there, after all it's a large hardware store and i'm sure that today she remembered me [02:42] nullboy, you have nothing to loose...unless you rob the shop you will be fine [02:42] Instead of stressing over it, why not just wait and see if she calls... [02:42] frullet, she will NOT...i can vouch for it...very few hardly any ever do [02:42] stressing about it has already commenced so i have to go back soon [02:42] *if* she is keen, she *will* call [02:42] The-Croupier, hope depot policy is to completely ignore shoplifting [02:42] i feel too strange to go back the day after so i will wait 1 day [02:42] nullboy, ohh and something else the girls like [02:43] s/hope/home/ [02:43] The-Croupier: alright, i wait one day and if she calls tomorrow we talk. no call tomorrow means i go back [02:43] and face the awkwardness [02:43] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:43] ;) [02:43] nullboy, do not show her what you want exactly ;) ... if you play it like "you get girls ALL THE TIME" and you are not at all stressed...(cos she is too) [02:43] lol [02:44] The-Croupier: how bad was the card thing? [02:44] here's my take [02:44] she will start by appreciating it and trusting that she has someone with great confidence next to her to meet [02:44] lowkyalur (n=low@dslc-082-082-064-014.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:45] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [02:45] nullboy, not that bad...you can cover it up by saying there was someone behind and i didnt want to bother you ;) [02:45] perfect. [02:45] freaking perfect [02:45] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: [02:45] i came in today cos i dint want to put you into trouble of calling me ...or put you in any inconvenience [02:45] ;) [02:45] you know kind of i CARE ABOUT YOU [02:45] this is going to be either epic win or epic fail but either way it will kickass [02:45] wamen like to be cared off alot [02:45] lol nullboy how old are you? [02:45] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:46] 27 [02:46] lol The-Croupier cared off alot? [02:46] they like it alot ;) [02:46] The-Croupier cares, a lot [02:46] edman007, always [02:46] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430340.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [02:46] lol [02:47] The-Croupier: alright this has been helpful [02:47] when it comes to women.... i love them to bits [02:47] i have ammo now [02:47] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:47] lol please dont shoot her when you rob that store [02:47] :p [02:47] lol [02:47] i can cover the card douche baggery now [02:47] yea, rape her [02:47] err [02:47] I can get girls easily the problem with it is they leave lol well not really its complicated. [02:47] wait, that might not be good either [02:47] edman007, that shows that he cares [02:47] rofl [02:48] nullboy, dont rape her on the first date though.. [02:48] never. [02:48] do it on the second or so... cos than its just hard sex [02:48] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [02:48] i'd actually like to get ot know this one [02:48] she seems cool [02:48] nullboy, if she seems cool...you play it even cooler [02:49] i wonder what the guy behind was thinking during this [02:49] lol [02:49] dont tell her what you do, dont show her your computer skills, dont take her home and show her your stuff [02:49] lol [02:49] The-Croupier: she has my card that ship has sailed [02:49] nullboy: probably "Oh that poor sucker, he gave her his card." :P [02:49] The-Croupier: how come? [02:49] ohh have lots of wine,ouzo,vodka,soft drinks at arms reach [02:50] firebird619: damn man. i had no idea that was bad [02:50] haha, now you do. [02:50] lol [02:50] lf4, how come what? [02:50] nullboy: its not that bad she might have thought it was cute :) [02:50] nullboy, what does your card say ? [02:50] lf4 lets see what it says first [02:50] network design, admin, security [02:50] The-Croupier: why not tell her what he does? [02:50] the whole deal man [02:50] ooops [02:50] it's my damn card. [02:50] FSCK IT ALL [02:51] nullboy, lol...dont worry man..its alright [02:51] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left irc: "leaving" [02:51] nullboy, you got to pay for The-Croupier to fly out there and fix it...just have to make sure he does not steal her [02:51] yeah [02:51] i'll fix this [02:51] edman007...lol [02:51] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) joined ##slackware. [02:51] i'll either get the date or explode like the zepplin [02:51] edman007, i never steal ;) i do like helping though [02:52] nullboy, one slacker less damn ;) [02:52] borrow, whatever you want to call it [02:52] like i said, either way this is going to be epic [02:52] nullboy, do not worry man..im sure you will show us pictures after a week..full clothed pictures i hope [02:52] she's probably at home going "wtf?" [02:52] nullboy: If she's really into you too, it'll all work out. [02:53] firebird619, she doenst know him...;) she has just seen him in the store... [02:53] she's sitting at home going "wtf was that all about?" and i'm sitting here going "oh god wtf was that all about?" [02:53] nullboy, lol [02:53] lol [02:53] you watch too many movies man [02:53] The-Croupier: true, but you never know. She may have an idea. [02:53] actually i really am this fucked up normally. it didn't take movies to do it [02:54] firebird619, of nullboy being a geek that goes and buys lots of hardware in HER shop [02:54] haha [02:54] nullboy: want my advice don't worry or think about it to much you'll just end up driving yourself crazy and to different maybe wrong conclusions. [02:54] nullboy, thats even better ... YOU ARE A NATURAL [02:54] lf4: yeah you're right [02:54] The-Croupier: At least he didn't follow her to her car, or wait for her outside. [02:55] nullboy, just be cool man, relax, its just a girl..there are soooo many out there [02:55] firebird619, you dont know that yet [02:55] so here's my plan. let tomorrow pass. if she calls great. if she doesn't call i go back to the big store the next day [02:55] The-Croupier: true. nullboy, you withholding information? :P [02:55] nope, i didn't follow her [02:56] nullboy, JUST BE YOU ... if she likes you ok...if she doesnt tuff shit ;) [02:56] but i'm certain she remembers me form a couple weeks ago [02:56] nullboy: What'd you do then? [02:56] nothing [02:56] firebird619, he didnt follow her..he hacked her gps in the car and now knows exactly where she lives [02:56] The-Croupier: lol, probably. [02:56] She presses "OnStar" and hears nullboy. [02:57] firebird619, she presses the radio on button and hers the gps giving directions to the nullboy's house ;) [02:57] the first time i went through her line was probably 1-2 weeks ago, i had to return something. today i honestly had to return another part. after all, this is the closest hardware store and i have an account with them [02:57] that's all the info [02:57] The-Croupier: lol. [02:57] today was the first time i actually tried to talk to her [02:57] Sounds like something he'd do/have the knowhow to do. [02:58] yeah seriously, if i wanted to GPS her i would have :o [02:58] hes admin and security in his card [02:58] haha [02:58] nullboy: gps her, you barely know her. :P [02:58] i would buy a full mechanic car..really old one..no mobile, [02:58] lol [02:58] rofl [02:58] oh lawd i know where this is going [02:59] alright, i'm going...night guys [02:59] night edman007 [02:59] edman007, night bro [02:59] nullboy, this is not going anywhere...you are going to the store tomorrow [02:59] good god this feels so wrong but i'll do it [02:59] ohh and do not buy anything expensive...do not return anything... [02:59] I'LL DO IT! [03:00] just go in for her, not parts [03:00] right? [03:00] nullboy, yeah thats the spirit [03:00] nullboy: may the slackware force be with you. :) [03:00] Action: The-Croupier is going to put tomorrows conversation in noobfarm ;) [03:00] The-Croupier: That'd take up the whole first page. [03:00] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [03:00] well look at noobfarm as it stands....it can;t get worse for me [03:01] nullboy, do not worry man...seriously..if you say what i told you ...and you play it in those kind of lines... [03:01] you can blame me after that if you want [03:01] i'm going to, and really that has helped [03:01] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:01] seriously...i had no problems with girls 9/10 were ;) [03:02] honestly, i think i can clear up the card nonsense now and the way i acted today was fairly brazen/blunt so i can pull it off [03:02] at least i didn't initially pussy foot around it [03:02] best to leave it and not try to explain. [03:02] just be you, they want to learn you..not imediately..girls like "bad" "mistirious" guys, because they know what they are doing,,,,they dont tell them..so they have to work to find out..and that ecxites them ;) [03:02] so dont worry JUST BE YOU [03:03] haha so true The-Croupier [03:03] yeah so my screams "lunatic" [03:03] card* [03:03] i can see it now, she;s unplugging all her electronic shit [03:03] nullboy: Just wear a cam and an earpiece with wifi connected to ##slackware, we'll coach ya along. :P [03:03] nullboy, DO NOT WORRY ...SERIOUSLY BE YOU (not the geeky you) the REAL YOU [03:03] brb have to go for a cigarette..;) [03:04] firebird619: that would be so horrible [03:04] brb well get back to this in 5mins [03:04] that would even make *me* cry [03:04] lol [03:04] nullboy: haha, 2-300 some odd slackware geeks coaching you along, do I hear EPIC FAIL. [03:04] i couldn't watch a video of myself trying to get a date with a girl [03:05] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:05] that's like water boarding [03:05] haha [03:05] well guys what i have learned from this long conversation is very simple: fuck it all. go for it [03:05] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [03:06] lol took hours to get just 6 words [03:06] yep [03:06] Ficthe (n=grieve@unaffiliated/ficthe) left irc: "::" [03:06] nullboy: yup, wasn't it worth the long conversation though. [03:06] morning all [03:06] totally. [03:06] dive: morning [03:06] morning dive [03:06] dive: nullboy's been getting advice, he likes a girl. [03:06] :P [03:07] aha [03:07] i think i'm good now, either way it's going to be hilarious [03:07] The hardware store girl no less. [03:07] nice [03:07] nullboy: You'll do fine, as The-Croupier said, just be yourself. [03:07] it won't immediately be funny but ultimately i know i'm going ot end up laughing my ass off [03:08] and yes, i am removing all cards from my wallet as we speak [03:08] lol, good idea. [03:08] less temptation to pull another one out. [03:09] so, how you doing dive? [03:09] dive is stoked because wireless-tools has been fixed ;) [03:10] nullboy: and hopefully by this time tomorrow, you'll be stoked cuz you got the girl. :) [03:11] yeah! [03:11] i'll still be freakin' out but i'm going to do it [03:11] now it's time to get all meta [03:12] why is it that this seems more difficult than anything else? [03:12] because it is [03:12] well, it seems like it is anyway. [03:12] feelings are the most difficult thing to learn or understand and no one fully understands them. [03:13] i'm not scared of surfing with the sharks, i've jumped out of planes and camped with wild animals. i've done many things that should be much more frightening but none of that compares to this [03:13] nullboy, yeah but now I have another problem - some time since finding the fix for wireless tools my -current box refuses to hibernate [03:13] dive LOL [03:14] just seems to get stuck in a black screen [03:14] hmm [03:14] ah well [03:14] lol [03:14] dive: did you upgrade your kernel today? [03:15] just a thought, since 2.6.29.2 came out i thought that could have introduced something new if you had upgraded [03:15] no but I did recompile with savagefb compiled in [03:15] hmm [03:15] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:15] nullboy: inreply to your jumping out of plans... different type of fear (death/pain) vs (emotional pain) one heals and goes away the other you have to learn how to heal it. [03:15] I can't get to the box at the mo - there's a gas engineer doing a service [03:16] lf4: excellent point there [03:16] haha and I'm going to head to bed hopefully tomorrow I'll actaully get out of the house. [03:17] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [03:17] best wishes with your girl situation nullboy [03:17] night all [03:18] thanks [03:18] night lf4 [03:18] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) left irc: "sleeping." [03:19] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-226-22-184.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:21] btw, leaving out the rt patch seemed to fix my kernel building issue earlier. [03:23] firebird619: when you did apply the patch did it apply cleanly? [03:23] Ekc (n=iskar@79-100-12-217.btc-net.bg) joined ##slackware. [03:26] nullboy: I got this when trying to apply the patch: Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] [03:26] ah [03:26] that means that that particular hunk of the patch is already there now [03:27] I don't think it is though, because it didn't have the real-time preemption option. [03:27] strange, they may have changed something else in a different place too then [03:27] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:27] Yeah, the rt patch changes frequently too, during 2.6.29.1, it changed about 3 times. [03:28] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [03:29] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [03:30] nullboy: I'm not sure there's a huge improvement using rt vs. low-latency kernel. [03:30] i'm using tickless + preempt [03:30] Karu (n=alch@84.50.106.181) joined ##slackware. [03:30] Linux neutrino 2.6.29.2-RAS #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Apr 27 12:44:30 PDT 2009 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [03:30] yeah, I added tickless to this one too. RT changes so darn much. [03:31] Linux slackware 2.6.29.2-smp #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Apr 27 19:23:33 CDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [03:31] Nick change: alice_ -> alicephilippa [03:31] does it stutter at all? [03:31] Action: frullet just built his first package, effort [03:31] mine seems to perform decently like this [03:32] nullboy: no stutter at all that I notice. [03:32] nille_ (i=1000@c-94-255-245-44.cust.bredband2.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:34] pilipo (n=pilipo@122.55.51.202) joined ##slackware. [03:34] ola [03:34] hello [03:37] nullboy, im back..feeling better? [03:37] yep [03:37] i have some nice mint tea [03:37] nice a calm now [03:38] and* [03:38] i'll drink a gallon of this stuff tomorrow though ;) [03:38] nullboy, cool...have a couple tomorrow then.. and having a nice drink helps ;) but dont smell of alcohol ;) [03:39] yeah no booze for initial contact unless you're in a bar [03:39] then it's acceptable [03:39] nullboy: just don't drink a gallon right before you go, then you'll be asking "where's the restroom" :P [03:39] lol [03:39] i r ned tinkle. u haz? [03:39] haha [03:40] i re-read that and i nearly spewed on my laptop [03:40] oh noes [03:43] fortune: The telephone is a good way to talk to people without having to offer them a drink. -- Fran Lebowitz, "Interview" [03:47] firebird619, then you will never see them or meet them from the phone ;) (crap) [03:47] pattwo (n=sysadmin@d206-75-107-60.abhsia.telus.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [03:48] :) [03:48] Morning. [03:48] morning [03:51] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host153-77-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [03:51] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [03:54] heh, fortune again: The one good thing about repeating your mistakes is that you know when [03:54] to cringe. [03:54] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [03:54] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:58] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [03:58] Well, time for me to get going. Have a good morning/afternoon/evening everyone. [03:58] nullboy: Good luck with the girl tomorrow. [03:58] oh boy! [03:58] it's gunna be good [03:58] nullboy: I'll find out how it went tomorrow. :) [03:58] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:58] hehe [03:59] either epic success, or epic failure. [03:59] let's hope for success [03:59] yep [03:59] nullboy, there is no epic fail..only epic success... [04:00] Yes, think positive thoughts. [04:00] its not compiling some kernel..where you get kernel panic.. [04:00] hey either way, this is the first time in YEARS that i have done this so whatever the outcome ends up being, I have already learned a ton [04:01] you learn a ton, you drink a gallon, you got the point ;) [04:01] haha [04:01] yup, and if it ends bad, you move on, plenty of fish in the sea, err, girls in the world. :) [04:02] nullboy: either way, you've made an impression. [04:02] if that doesnt work..go out again..and hit on someone else just to practice..hit on one every two days ;) that way you will get alot better..even if you have a fg still hit on some..so you dont loose the game.. ;) not necesseraly do something but flerting is fun and nice and everyone loves it ;) [04:03] i used to go out with my gf and hit on girls just to show her that i can get them easily... she loves me to bits now..i love her too ;) [04:03] dont worry bro..you will be fine ;) [04:03] :) [04:03] Well, I'm outta here, later guys. Good luck nullboy. [04:03] see ya [04:03] thanks [04:04] The-Croupier: i'm going to do this and then i'm going to keep doing it [04:04] again and again until i'm used to the feelings [04:04] firebird619 (n=firebird@unaffiliated/firebird619) left ##slackware ("Good Night"). [04:05] brb shower time [04:10] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:18] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [04:22] xor (i=azer@114.121.98.98) joined ##slackware. [04:22] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [04:23] when slack 13.0 released? [04:23] wid [04:23] heh [04:23] xor: look at wiki, and previous release dates [04:25] wiki is empty [04:25] any wiki [04:25] fill it in with your own date :) [04:25] find release dates and its easy to estimate [04:26] this distro is weirdo [04:27] you mean all the others are [04:27] maybe the creator is an alien [04:28] is that true? Pattrick is alien? not come from our galaxy? [04:28] yes [04:28] absolutely [04:28] he is omnipresent [04:28] i knew it [04:29] hmm.. [04:29] do you need a new realease? you dont like the current one? [04:30] i need the new release [04:30] YOU NEED?! [04:31] Nick change: ApOgEE- -> ApOgEEk [04:31] Slackware is the most weird distro ever [04:31] grrrrrrrrhhh... [04:31] unwierd [04:31] Nick change: ApOgEEk -> ApOgEE-- [04:31] unwierd [04:33] Catoptromancy and The-Croupier, maybe both are aliens too... [04:34] Nick change: greymaus1 -> greymaus [04:35] should i move to debian? someone tells me that Debian is better, secure and very fast for my PC. [04:36] lol [04:37] The Universal OS [04:37] I have installed postgresql with a slackbuilds script [04:37] it's wonderful [04:37] it even contains logrotate scripts [04:37] where shall i put them? :-) [04:38] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@96-42-235-80.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:38] freealan (n=freealan@220-135-120-204.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [04:39] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.80.45) joined ##slackware. [04:39] xor: just use what you want to use, whatever that is, it's good. [04:40] hmm [04:41] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [04:42] i'm new to Linux and my head is gonna blow, i think, i will choose Windows XP :D [04:42] perfect [04:42] whatever you want [04:43] there is one thing you could work on though ;) [04:45] thanks for your help [04:45] goodbye. [04:45] xor (i=azer@114.121.98.98) left irc: [04:45] his trolling really needs some work [04:47] really [04:47] Lalloso: uhhh /etc/logrotate.d perhaps? [04:48] alright, it's nearly 2am here. see ya [04:49] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "-" [04:49] well, got problems with suspend and hibernate in -current. Also got about 25 updates since sunday to look at and try to figure it out.. =/ [04:50] it could be hardware though.. [04:51] anyway something to do after this teabreak [04:51] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [04:53] Hermaniette (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) joined ##slackware. [04:57] how come i can use font antialiasing and hinting in xfce w/o recompiling cairo, etc? [04:58] duryodhan (n=duryodha@nat/yahoo/x-4cba31b72932f748) left irc: "leaving" [05:01] gbelknap (n=ubuntu@76.125.184.115) left irc: "Leaving" [05:03] Zordrak: yes the installpkg already put the postgresql script under /etc/logrotate.d [05:05] does logrotate runs by default on slackware 12.2. ? =) [05:14] you need to google logrotate.d and for some context profile.d too [05:21] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [05:24] john_dee, font antialiasing works for me on slack 12.2 + xfce. [05:28] pilipo (n=pilipo@122.55.51.202) left irc: "Leaving" [05:33] fireking (n=STRESSAD@201.86.178.196.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [05:34] would someone be able to get me a quick overview on ' xargs strip --strip-uneeded ' [05:35] frullet: man strip [05:36] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. 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[05:45] john_dee, today... a little while ago [05:45] kind of one to two hours ago [05:45] somthing like that.. had to do with the menus ..and someting like that.. might help i dont know [05:46] The-Croupier, yeah, just looked through. it was about menus [05:47] xaphtrick (n=xaph@92.45.137.43) left ##slackware. [05:51] Hey any xfce-4.6.X users I got a nice "hack" for the XFCE to use kde's menu's and not xfce's. I just did this "cd /etc/xfce/xdg/menus" then "mv xfce-applications.menu xfce-applications.menu.orig" then "ln -s /etc/kde/xdg/menus/applications.menu xfce-applications.menu" now I dont have that *blasted* other menu with over 100 items. ymmv. hopefully I have no typeoes in that command, I didnt copy/paste them here. [05:52] What's Old_Fogie was talking about,gentlemen [05:52] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.142.248) joined ##slackware. [05:52] Jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) joined ##slackware. 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[07:48] gsd: my best guess would be xrandr [07:48] hey [07:48] Agiofws hey i heard somewhere that "swine flu" is spreading via facebook and windows 7 is that true ? is that true ? i think i saw that article on slashdot ... [07:49] gsd: run xrandr -q to see a list of available outputs, and then xrandr --output [OUTPUT] --mode XRESxYRES [07:52] frullet (n=Bob@124-171-59-12.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [07:52] $ xrandr -q [07:53] No protocol specified [07:53] Can't open display :0.0 [07:54] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD884CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:55] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD88224.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [07:56] Eddie_grey (n=NPL13@200.138.220.246) joined ##slackware. [07:57] Eddie_grey (n=NPL13@200.138.220.246) left irc: Client Quit [07:58] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:58] Ilie (n=slacker@info-c-31.info.uaic.ro) joined ##slackware. [08:00] Hi slackytude:) [08:00] greetings hitest [08:00] :) [08:00] everything alrite? [08:00] oh I'm fucked up [08:01] kama (n=kama@87.19.135.138) joined ##slackware. [08:01] Action: slackytude goes to smoke break [08:01] gsd: ? [08:01] I can't set the resolution in gnome [08:01] I'm good slackytude, you? [08:01] so now I can't see nothing in X [08:01] karma for using gnome :) [08:01] xorg.conf has nothing [08:01] because configuration is per user [08:02] there must be a configuration file somewhere in the /home [08:02] hiya frullet:) [08:03] hey hitest [08:03] :-) how are you, man? [08:04] getting there mate, yourself? [08:04] good, thank you. [08:04] kama (n=kama@87.19.135.138) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:04] bbiab [08:04] RaNdY (n=randy@shellium/member/randy) left irc: SendQ exceeded [08:04] I /exit [08:05] gsd (n=chatzill@146.193.41.107) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.9/2009042113]" [08:08] u2pian (n=guest@120.28.240.253) joined ##slackware. [08:08] hello to all!!! [08:09] JULlA (i=julio@41.236.13.191) joined ##slackware. [08:10] Meeggann (i=hejsan@41.236.14.102) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:11] sucks.. Demon say they stopped mirroring slackware for "security reasons" [08:12] xor (i=azer@114.121.97.22) joined ##slackware. [08:12] oh... hello there [08:12] hows it going? [08:12] huh? unsecure mirroring? [08:12] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: "." [08:12] odd, did they specify the reasons? [08:12] nope [08:12] that sucks [08:12] indian support droid just says "security reasons" [08:12] slackware is fun to use, but for smart people ofcourse... [08:13] xor : and what does your comment have to do with anything? [08:13] hitest, still alive [08:14] :) [08:14] David beckham using Slackware [08:14] :D [08:14] fascinating [08:14] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:14] xor: slackware and gentoo..good combination...slackware's discreetness and gentoo's fluidness....:-) [08:15] przemoc (n=przemoc@chello089079179132.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [08:15] Ilie (n=slacker@info-c-31.info.uaic.ro) left irc: "Leaving" [08:19] xor (i=azer@114.121.97.22) left ##slackware. [08:19] Srbo (i=1000@p4FE90B90.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [08:21] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl12-104-105.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [08:24] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [08:25] u2pian (n=guest@120.28.240.253) left ##slackware. [08:32] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:35] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [08:35] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [08:36] us34 (n=us34@c83-254-191-151.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [08:36] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.80.45) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [08:38] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) joined ##slackware. [08:39] Srbo (i=1000@p4FE90B90.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:41] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.245) joined ##slackware. [08:42] credo (n=name@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:42] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:46] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.80.45) joined ##slackware. [08:49] which package do you recommend for laptop power management? ..tuxonice? laptop-mode scripts? or what? [08:50] for example..i'm little confused about acpi custom scripts and xfce applet "xfce4-power-management".. [08:50] caio_, xfce-power-manager (if using xfce 4.6), powerdevil (if using kde4) [08:50] ivan8013_ (n=ivan8013@190.148.35.177) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:51] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:51] caio_, i personally just use powernowd to control my cpu speed automatically (available on sbo) [08:51] caio_, and i set my screen brightness by hand :) that's about all. [08:52] _dTd_ (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:52] caio_, oh, and i have set up the acpi-handler to do pm-suspend on lid close and pm-hibernate on power button press. [08:52] very convenient, as for me. [08:52] JULlA (i=julio@41.236.13.191) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [08:53] slava_dp: that's ok.. but i've had not luck with a similar approach.. [08:53] slava_dp: under xfce seem to suspend ok, but restore fails when a wifi-usb/mouse-usb are connected.. [08:54] slava_dp: and when at terminal (no X) do not restore neither [08:55] slava_dp: using xfce4-power-manager under xfce 4.6 and pm-suspend or acpitool -b when i'm not at X (acpi events under /etc/acpi/custom-script) [08:57] caio_, try doing pm-suspend from a root terminal and then see /var/log/pm-suspend.log [08:58] caio_, maybe it'll give you a hint about what does not work. [09:01] slava_dp: is it possible to increase debug level on pm-suspend? [09:03] jafnhar (n=jlkaus@97-86-234-223.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [09:03] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net/" [09:04] duryodhan (n=duryodha@nat/yahoo/x-7bae45fee7dab6f1) joined ##slackware. [09:04] slava_dp: and regards powernow I already have powernow_k8 kernel module loaded (ondemand when AC, and powersave on battery) [09:06] caio_, nay, powernowd is very intelligent. it increases/dectreases your cpu speed depending on the load. try it :) [09:07] slava_dp: sure, i will try it.. [09:07] caio_, the man page for pm-suspend mentions lots of quirks that you can try. i dunno, it works for me without any options..... [09:08] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.90.43) joined ##slackware. [09:21] caio_, you could try the latest kernel too, if not already running it. [09:22] guys you know during installation [09:22] when it asks you to config the timezone [09:23] just before that it asks if the clock is set to localtime or UTC [09:23] do you know which config files under /etc contain that information? or how the system as a whole will be affected by that config decision? [09:25] Lalloso, you can use timeconfig on the installed system to change the timezone. [09:26] Lalloso, and if you wish to dive in the deep waters, you can look at /usr/bin/timeconfig (it's a shell script) and see what it does. [09:27] /etc/localtime and /etc/localtime-copied-from [09:27] dunno bout the UTC vs. local though [09:28] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) joined ##slackware. [09:31] locatime-copied-from is a symlink to whatever it is set to in: /usr/share/zoneinfo [09:33] tr0j4n (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [09:33] i've installed slackware 12.2 [09:34] congrats:) [09:34] it's the best linux ever! fast and logical [09:36] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) left irc: ">340 O C<5@ =5 1K;> =8:>3>, :B> 1K MB> >?@>25@3" [09:44] tr0j4n: including the latest from patches/ ? [09:44] u2pian (n=guest@120.28.242.16) joined ##slackware. [09:45] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "Leaving" [09:47] BP{k}: nop [09:48] BP{k}: are there important patches? [09:48] yes [09:48] u2pian (n=guest@120.28.242.16) left irc: Client Quit [09:49] hitest: what? [09:50] go to a slackware mirror and download install security updates with the #upgradepkg command. as an example here's a mirroe you can use. mirrors are listed at slackware.com, get slack. http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-12.2/patches/packages/ [09:51] mirror [09:51] hitest: ok, how to tell a patch is important? [09:51] Tonight I am going to get fucked up. :] [09:51] check out security updates at the slackware home page it is listed there [09:52] RaNdY (i=randy@i.hate.your.vhosts.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [09:52] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.142.248) joined ##slackware. [09:52] security advisories [09:52] link at slackware.com [09:53] bbl [09:53] hitest: thanks :) [09:54] yw:) [09:55] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:56] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [09:56] udev exploit? [09:56] i've seen this exploit on milw0rm [09:56] or use slackpkg (.org) since it's official tool [09:56] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ccb50b45f60ca1c0) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:56] The udev exploit is a local exploit.. [09:57] uncomment one mirror from /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [09:57] slackpkg update [09:57] slackpkg upgrade-all [09:57] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-05eed0c2a6bee431) joined ##slackware. [09:58] straterra: yep, but still useful :) [09:59] Not really o.O [09:59] how can an exploit be useful ? [09:59] the local exploit had to meet certain conditions [09:59] eddie_grey (n=Usuario@200.138.220.246) joined ##slackware. [09:59] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [10:00] which iirc slackware didn't meet those conditions out of the box and the udev update is just to make sure security patches are done and taken care of. [10:02] ^ WHS [10:02] Just because a patch is released it by no means indicates that a default slack install is vulnerable [10:03] it also means that you should read the full exploit information before freaking out [10:03] most of the exploits you see out there are local exploits and have to mee specific criteria [10:04] are there severe security issues that may lead intruders hack my box remotely? [10:04] I can gaurantee there are still exploits in every linux distribution out there, its just that the specific criteria for that exploit to be used has never been met. [10:04] are there severe security issues that may lead intruders hack my box remotely? [10:04] tr0j4n: uhh other than ignorance or stupidity when it comes to configuring your box... no [10:04] Most boxes get hacked because of stupidity or ignorance. [10:05] ^ WHS :) [10:05] heh [10:05] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:06] caio_ (n=caio@190.244.44.245) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:07] tr0j4n: http://slackware.com/lists/ <-- you might want to sign up to the slackware-security mailing list. [10:07] tr0j4n (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:13] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) left irc: "leaving" [10:13] Hermaniette (i=1000@pc-20091230-o.fy.chalmers.se) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:15] snL20 (n=irssi@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [10:19] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [10:20] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [10:21] hughszg (n=hugh_2@58.33.155.58) joined ##slackware. [10:23] this day sucks :( [10:23] nice weather here ;) [10:23] not here [10:24] slackytude: bad weather over there? it is pleasant here [10:24] rain? [10:24] gregsparc_ (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) joined ##slackware. [10:25] gregsparc (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:25] Nick change: gregsparc_ -> gregsparc [10:28] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) joined ##slackware. [10:28] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [10:28] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-151-93-65.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [10:29] greymaus (n=greymaus@86-46-193-23-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [10:30] No not here either.. it was raining and that was great... but it stopped :( [10:31] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.245) joined ##slackware. [10:33] gar0t0 (n=tcosta@md5.mdsystems.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:35] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:35] hitest, yeah, it does rain [10:37] greymaus (n=greymaus@86-46-193-23-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [10:37] but its not the weather alone. work is no fun this week [10:37] no fun at all [10:37] slackytude: I know what you mean, work can be a grind at times [10:38] isn't there a nice slackbuild script for unixodbc? :-\ [10:39] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [10:39] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [10:39] motherfucking stupid r&d.. they're like a bunch of kindergarden kids [10:39] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:39] En1gm4 (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [10:39] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [10:39] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Client Quit [10:39] spent all afternoon bug hunting our reporting systems [10:40] all patched have been applied :) [10:40] stupid bugs also.. [10:40] Nick change: En1gm4 -> tr0j4n [10:40] a report that is supposed to show what content is "live", and that is determined by a status flag, and they forgot to filter on that status and count non-live content also [10:41] and i tell this to them, and they're all like "yeah but if we filter on the status the numbers will drop" [10:41] well duh, by not filtering on the status you're showing incorrect information, and the whole report is moot [10:41] tr0j4n: nicely done [10:41] but they dont fucking care [10:41] xerxeslins (n=chatzill@201.57.112.21) joined ##slackware. [10:42] hitest: yep :) [10:42] :) [10:43] found it here http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware-12.2/database/unixodbc/2.2.14/src/ :D [10:44] alejandro (i=1012@200.84.245.205) joined ##slackware. [10:44] mercfate (n=fernando@srvinternet.cometais.com.br) joined ##slackware. [10:44] hi [10:44] hi there [10:44] i have webmail configured on my server [10:45] but it on /webmail folder [10:45] <---- confused [10:46] when a put http://myserver shows folders [10:46] i tried to change documentroot [10:46] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:46] but dont works :( [10:46] anyone can help? [10:47] vastina (n=vastina@206.105.111.189) joined ##slackware. [10:47] morning slackers [10:50] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:51] mercfate (n=fernando@srvinternet.cometais.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [10:51] art'noon [10:52] Nick change: eviljame1 -> eviljames [10:52] tewmten, great fun [10:53] well, look at that [10:53] only 20 minutes to go [10:53] \o/ [10:54] Zordrak: still mornin here:) sunny too:) [10:54] plee (n=kurt@static243-165-183.adsl.no) left irc: "Leaving" [10:59] moss23 (n=adam@32.243.broadband5.iol.cz) joined ##slackware. [11:00] is there a libpcap package for slackware 12.2? [11:00] guys have you got any method for listing directory content with sizes of its subdirectories ? instead of the block size [11:00] eddie_grey (n=Usuario@200.138.220.246) left irc: "Fui embora" [11:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat078.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [11:00] because I haven't found anything in "ls" or "du" [11:01] eelriver (n=eelriver@67.102.106.32) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [11:02] bbl [11:03] moss23: du -sh /directory/* [11:05] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:05] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: [11:06] sahko (n=sahko@ppp-94-68-136-236.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:09] BP{k}: i sent TNT an email :) The fuckers list Greece as a country outside the EU. I think thats why theyre so expensive. Hope they get back at me. [11:09] sahko: uh ... say .. what? [11:09] hughszg (n=hugh_2@58.33.155.58) left ##slackware. [11:09] sahko: beat them with a cluestick! [11:10] BP{k}: eh you remember me asking you about TNT last week? the dutch post service [11:10] i mailed them [11:10] yeah. I do remember. It was more a suprise that TNT are so stupid to count Greece as outside the EU. [11:10] maybe there are other reasons. who knows [11:11] maybe there are reasons. who knows [11:11] i have faith that theyre gonna get back thouh [11:11] mail back whatever [11:12] sahko: well considering that Greece became a member state in 1981... [11:12] BP{k}: the EU didnt exist in 81 :) [11:12] yeah the EU is a recent thing [11:13] cacao (n=back@192.93.161.253) joined ##slackware. [11:13] hello [11:13] established by Maastricht [11:13] ('93) [11:13] Zordrak: fine, whatever. Greece was part of the EC then in 1981. [11:13] EEC .. but yeah :) [11:14] and become part of the EU around 2k [11:14] they list Cyprus outside the EU too [11:14] and Bulgaria eg inside the EU [11:14] Bulgaria became part of it like last year? [11:14] the point is still valid, TNT is retarded for counting Greece outside it .. as it is a memmber at since for the last 15+ years. [11:15] totally [11:15] I have a pb with X, when I start it I have the nvidia logo and X crash with this error : "waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing." [11:15] but... didnt you know TNT are retarded before that? ;) [11:15] Do you have an idea about what's going on ? [11:15] that reminds me that Greek banks charge for tansactions inside the EU [11:15] cacao: you're out of disk space [11:15] Zordrak: of course. Even more retarded that the PTT. [11:16] Zordrak: out ??? all my partitions is full at about 10% [11:17] BP{k}: can you translate something for me plz? i got a noreply mail from them [11:17] cacao: then you have a write permission error or other failure [11:17] BP{k}: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13043 [11:17] Zordrak: ok I will check for permission using strace [11:18] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD88224.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:18] cacao: the error you recieved is usually because thats the first attempt to write to disk during Xstartup [11:18] Zordrak: ok [11:18] iirc [11:19] BP{k}: nevermind freetranslation.com worked quite good. [11:19] ni any case, you fill your / and thats the error you'll gte [11:19] i thought it was an invalid address reply or something [11:20] tr0j4n (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:21] sahko: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13044 [11:21] basically standard boiler plate autorepsonder. [11:21] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [11:21] yeah. at least it says the msg is gonna get processed [11:21] Action: Zordrak wonders at etymology oy "boiler plate" [11:21] nng398 (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [11:21] Nick change: nng398 -> crf953 [11:21] s/oy/of/ [11:23] i wonder where the dutch language comes from. if you listen at it it sounds like aliens speaking [11:23] very weird language nothing to do with french spanish english. no latin roots [11:23] at least it's better than listening to German [11:23] hmm. depends i think. bavarian german might be worst yeah [11:24] sahko: Indo-European -> Germanic -> West Germanic -> -->Low Franconian ->Dutch [11:24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Language [11:24] panzer (n=panzer@dsl017-120-043.bhm1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined ##slackware. [11:25] it's way too hard (to the ear) and they never use one word where one freaking pointlessly long word will do [11:26] bijit (n=benji@190.241.15.48) left irc: "leaving" [11:27] Riley (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:27] the dutch language contains too many small words. at least thats what i get from it [11:27] or they just sound small [11:27] it's funny to hear that, I've never thought of it that way although I know many people have problems with the pronunciation of certain words [11:28] psychicist: like "Scheveningen"? ;) [11:29] BP{k}: exactly ;) [11:30] psychicist: I think in the near 7 years I have lived in the UK now, I only have had one person pronounce my first name correctly :) [11:30] isnt it pronunced like michel? [11:31] no. [11:31] ok :) [11:31] i would just call you mike then :P [11:32] vastina (n=vastina@206.105.111.189) left irc: "quit" [11:32] sahko: even i can't pronounce it properly. although i do have an excuse [11:32] whats that? [11:32] Nick change: kethry_ -> kethry [11:32] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [11:32] kethry: you have an unfair disadvantage. [11:33] i'm deaf. [11:33] oh. well , as i havent heard it been pronounced im good as deaf too [11:33] there's a sound in the way michiel is prounced by dutch people that isn't in the English language and as i have problems hearing it.. i have problems replicating it [11:34] a sort of gutteral back of the throat "urrrghh" sound. and it sounds horrible. at least when i do it. [11:34] oi. [11:34] well it does! [11:34] I think if you can pronounce arab sounds like in "kharaab" (meaning bad) you come close [11:35] psychicist, you are wrong :) [11:35] psychicist: someone taught me to say the first muslim prayer thingie.. you know.. "there is no god but allah and mohammed is his messenger" in arabic. [11:35] that was hard enough tyvm [11:35] kethry: it's okay. I'll let you use "Dear Lord and Master" :P [11:36] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [11:36] haha [11:36] BP{k}: yes, dear lord and master [11:36] Nick change: xerxeslins -> xerxeslins_away [11:36] ##slackware: mode change '+b *away!*@*' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [11:36] xerxeslins_away kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: Banned: please turn off your auto-away functionality on your client when frequenting this channel...same thing for if you've manually set yourself to 'away'. The channel doesn't need to know and you can always SILENTLY set your mode to 'away'. [11:36] The_Faithful: it's a loan word in hindi, I don't know enough of the arab language to be sure what its real meaning is ;) [11:36] xerxeslins ... oh .. why, thank you slackboy. [11:37] psychicist, ahain :) so don't do that again :) [11:38] kevlinux (i=kevlinux@cpe-66-8-182-104.hawaii.res.rr.com) left irc: "KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/" [11:38] The_Faithful: I'll stop right there, no more examples ;) [11:39] credo (n=name@80.233.147.119) joined ##slackware. [11:39] psychicist, thank you :) [11:39] booteco (n=booteco@189.114.178.219.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: "Leaving" [11:41] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [11:51] C00re (i=hard@unaffiliated/c00re) got netsplit. [11:51] phrag (n=phrag@about/slackware/phrag) got netsplit. [11:51] Aldaron (i=1000@nblzone-228-25.nblnetworks.fi) got netsplit. [11:51] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) got netsplit. 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[12:31] wow [12:31] Hey Dominian. How's it going? [12:32] firebird619: going ok [12:32] you? [12:32] doing great. Thanks. [12:32] Action: theblackbox thought the nick got dirty Dominian? but not been round much recently [12:33] heh [12:33] nah.. I was using my real name for a bit.. decided to switch back when I felt "lost" [12:33] hehe.... [12:33] Action: theblackbox forget's his/her real name [12:33] =S [12:35] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:36] is someone know why lzma support have been had to pkgtool ? [12:37] do we understand that slackware official package compression format change ? [12:37] dguitar (n=dguitar@unaffiliated/dguitar) joined ##slackware. [12:37] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:38] asteroid: its not changing [12:38] he just added support for other compression methods [12:38] Please don't assume added features means the standard is going to change [12:38] omg Dominian please talk to be util [12:38] why this compression mode is add ? [12:39] just to say "wow slackware can use lzma, but no more" ? [12:40] well, I'll be back another day. see you [12:40] asteroid (n=asteroid@unaffiliated/asteroid) left ##slackware ("because it's time to go, I go. See you"). [12:42] idiot [12:42] thanks for the warning. [12:42] Hi chopp. How are you? [12:42] Fucking hate people who have to have the details for why support was added.. read the changelog.. if that doesn't suffice email Pat [12:42] firebird619: not too bad, and yourself? [12:43] chopp: doing great. thank you. [12:44] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[12:51] may just be missing an X driver or something [12:51] but the issue arised b4 the compilation .. [12:51] aye.. I know.. but you could still have other issues .. with the local install.. did the issue start with any updates to your system? [12:51] and i couldnt get the new kernel to work either .. [12:52] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [12:52] i did install some packages ... [12:52] which ones? [12:52] and they were for 12.1? [12:52] not an update exactly ... jdk , ktorrent , rp-pppoe , unicorn-neo driver [12:52] yeah [12:53] if i have compiled my kernel properly will it work [12:54] i mean the touchpad ... [12:54] possibly [12:54] have you tried to reconfigure X? [12:54] X -configure and see if that helps? [12:55] either that or compare thexorg.conf that X -configure creates to your existing one [12:55] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [12:55] yeah i did ... configure it several times [12:55] ok... [12:55] tks.. [12:55] and about the newly compiled kernel ... [12:56] Gayan: is ps/2 mouse support built into your kernel, or is it a module? [12:56] built in [12:57] when i plug in the ps/2 mouse it works fine.. [12:57] i am using it now... just that its a relic ... [12:57] does the touchpad completely fail, or does it just not do the tap-to-click and scrolling stuff? [12:57] i hav only one button [12:58] it doesnt work not even the buttons ... [12:58] does it have to do anything with the kb layout [12:58] hm. does it show up in /var/log/dmesg? [12:58] should have nothing to do with the keyboard layout [12:59] grep ^input /var/log/dmesg [12:59] k ... [12:59] are you sure it's not hardware related? did you try any other live distro? :p [13:00] it worked before ... [13:00] it worked fine when i had ubuntu [13:00] Imps wheel mouse ... [13:00] Gayan: on my old vaio laptop, I see two mice listed: one's the internal touchpad (shows up as "ALPS GlidePoint") and the other's the PS/2 mouse port (which doesn't in fact have a mouse plugged in, but it shows up anyway) [13:00] ah I thought you said it worked before in slack [13:01] v4nelle (n=van@79.103.173.111) joined ##slackware. [13:01] i only get the pluged in one [13:01] imps wheel mouse sounds like your external mouse, yeah [13:01] yeah it did ... [13:01] the touch pad worked fine.. earlier ... [13:02] I dunno what's up with that then... the mouse driver is loaded & works (for the external mouse), it should "see" the touchpad too [13:02] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [13:02] shall i try the new kernel ... [13:02] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:02] bt i need some help in bootin it up [13:03] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:03] eh, sure, so long as you have a way to boot your old kernel in case something's hosed... [13:03] the touchpad used to work with the kernel you're running right now? [13:03] yeah i have configed lilo to boot both [13:04] the issue is the new kernel give some error sayin 'raid devise somethin ' , also the new new kernel shows my disk as sda ,,, and in lilo it says hda [13:04] hda1 [13:04] yeah [13:04] your disks are SATA? [13:04] no ide .. [13:05] bt? [13:05] IDE disks showing up as sda? [13:05] yeah ... [13:05] even when i used ubuntu .. it was sda [13:06] never had that happen, there's some memory in my head where I read about such a thing but I can't recall what it was I read... [13:06] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [13:07] anyway you could try adding "root=/dev/sda1" on the LILO command line (replace the 1 with whatever... if your root partition is /dev/hda2, tell LILO /dev/sda2 and see what happens) [13:07] wait i'll show you the error [13:09] when i amend it and try to run lilo cmd , it says illegal 'root=' specification: /dev/sda1 [13:10] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-189-32.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) left irc: "BitchX: the un-Cola" [13:10] you could try 'append="root /dev/sda1"' [13:10] ok.... [13:10] skylark2 (n=none@adsl-12-38-170.jan.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [13:12] credo (n=name@80.233.147.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:12] the lilo command went fine ... i will reboot and check ... [13:12] I meant, actually at the LILO prompt when you're booting [13:12] but I suppose that'll work too [13:13] lol [13:13] how do i enter in the lilo prompt when booting ? [13:13] (or maybe it won't work, but it'll fail the same way) [13:13] >.<; [13:13] normally on Slackware you get the prompt and it waits a couple minutes, unless you hit Enter [13:14] but we cant type anything there no [13:14] eh, unless you changed /etc/lilo.conf to get rid of the timeout (you'd know if you did) [13:14] yes ,,, [13:14] can't type anything there? as in, your keyboard doesn't work? [13:14] lol [13:14] i ment typin as in the shell .... [13:15] i will give it a try .. now.... wait for me ... [13:15] tks ya'll [13:15] Gayan (i=0@112.135.201.71) left irc: "Leaving" [13:15] k [13:15] english apparenly not his native language [13:15] neonflux_^ (n=neonflux@adsl-99-151-255-82.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [13:15] Nick change: neonflux_^ -> neonflux [13:15] wow, these vampires in twilight are pasty as hell... they need more black people in this movie [13:16] what you watching? [13:16] or some latin folks lol [13:16] twilight... the main chick is pretty hot tho [13:17] granted she's 19 lol [13:17] or 20 now, what the hell ever [13:17] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:17] want to see a silly vampire movie, go get "near dark" [13:17] duryodhan (n=duryodha@nat/yahoo/x-7bae45fee7dab6f1) left irc: "leaving" [13:18] it's so funny... then again, i'm not taking it seriously at all [13:19] vampire movies aren't really meant to be taken seriously [13:19] zombie movies either [13:19] BS! All movies ar ereal! [13:19] have you seen RE: Degeneration? [13:19] Dominian: there, there son... we're going to give you a happy pill now [13:19] hehe [13:20] neonflux (n=neonflux@adsl-99-151-255-82.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:21] somebody should make a vampire vs. zombie movie [13:21] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [13:22] they're natural enemies, they compete for the same food source [13:22] neonflux_ (n=neonflux@75-50-83-121.lightspeed.snjsca.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Connection timed out [13:22] except, what happens when a vampire bites a zombie, eh? [13:22] VAMPIRE ZOMBIE! [13:22] traditionally i think zombies are the servants of vampires. :| [13:22] in the stories where you see both. [13:22] well, look at hellsign [13:22] *hellsing [13:23] vampires wouldn't want to bite zombies, they have stale/dried-up blood [13:23] zombies might not bite vampires, they don't smell like food [13:23] yes, let's look at anime for a proper portrayal of a classic literary monster. [13:23] they smell like zombies... [13:24] AzalynX: vampires had zombie minions, that's all >.> [13:24] SILENCE. [13:24] no [13:24] =p [13:24] besides, i'm an anime fan, i'm just trolling you. [13:24] AzalynX: ever seen "gankutsou" or however it's spelled? anime version of "count of monte cristo", really good [13:25] if you like photoshop textures :p [13:25] lol [13:25] (no vampires in it, just saying, anime can do classic literature well sometimes) [13:25] that's two people trolled. [13:25] / [13:25] second one still got caught even though i admitted to it. 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[15:58] Dad` (n=Dad`@ip-185.net-81-220-254.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:58] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [15:58] hi. how do I actually make slackware do "iwconfig essid [15:59] hi. how do I actually make slackware do "iwconfig essid AP key s:password; dhclient wlan0" automatcially when i star tthe computer. it does not work putting it in /etc/rd.d/rc.inet1.conf [16:00] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Connection timed out [16:00] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:01] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-151-93-65.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:01] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430340.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:01] josteint_: you need to add it to rc.local [16:04] Necos: you mean just putting the line in there. well, yeah. but shouldnt the conf file take care of that? [16:06] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-230-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:06] no [16:07] unless you're messing with the IWCONFIG lines or whatever they are now [16:08] strange thing is that if i put essid and key to conf file, only essid is shown in iwconfig after running rc.inet1 [16:09] josteint_: josteint_ Are you setting the key as s: or in the hex format? [16:09] yep [16:09] key s:secret [16:09] junpa (n=caesar@pacman.sawbox.org) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:09] have you tried the other way? [16:10] no... i could try that [16:11] I've had issues in the past with s:passphrase thats why I always try to use the hex to make things simple. :) [16:12] sounds right. gonna try that. thanks :) [16:14] SpacePlod (i=SpacePlo@pdpc/supporter/active/spaceplod) joined ##slackware. [16:15] josteint_: perhaps this will help. http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:network#wireless_configuration_in_rc.inet1.conf [16:15] It certainly doesn't belong in rc.local [16:15] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.245) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:16] jumperboy (n=jorey@gl206.websiteproject.net) joined ##slackware. [16:16] chopp: yes. like that. gonna read some of that. i know it will work. setting hex instead of passphrase might do the trick, though it is wierd that is does with by explicit setting it with iwconfnig [16:17] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:17] did you also read on that link I gave you about wpa_supplicant [16:18] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [16:20] Kaapa: [16:21] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.90.43) left irc: "leaving" [16:23] morning [16:24] morning frullet how are you doing? [16:24] lf4: not bad mate, yourself? [16:25] chopp: gonna try restarting the wlan to test config files. might disconnect [16:25] I'm doing alright thanks. [16:29] _ohm (n=nava@nom23707b.nomadic.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [16:29] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [16:29] josteint_: I got mine to work with rc.inet1.conf here is the setup http://pastebin.ca/1406560 [16:30] l4m4_m4n (n=lama@87.248.164.65) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:32] hey lf4. How are you? [16:32] hi frullet. [16:32] doing well firebird619 how about yourself? [16:32] lf4: doing great. thanks. [16:32] hey firebird619 [16:33] how's it going frullet? [16:33] yeh not bad, yourself [16:33] going great, thanks. [16:36] aceofspades19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-25-60.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [16:38] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.153.139) joined ##slackware. [16:38] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) left irc: "configuring" [16:39] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [16:39] hello happy slackers [16:39] lf4 (n=KJR@71.199.22.31) joined ##slackware. [16:39] Hello LnxSlck. [16:39] firebird619, [] [16:39] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:40] theres 289 people in here, just think if all of them said hi all at once [16:40] lf4: Need a simple, point n shoot camera. Dell has one right now Kodak 7.2 MP $49.99 with coupon code, regular $99.99. [16:40] Pig_Pen: let's try it. :P [16:40] LnxSlck: How's it going? [16:41] Nice firebird619 lol but I try to avoid point and shoot cameras :D [16:41] lf4: Yeah, still a good deal though. [16:41] Pig_Pen: I've been in channels like that its crazy haha [16:41] firebird619: true [16:41] firebird619, nice and you ? [16:41] LnxSlck: doing great, thanks. [16:41] =) [16:42] lf4: and it's a well known name, not some cheapo no name thing. :P [16:42] josteint_ (n=josteint@cm-84.215.36.243.getinternet.no) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:43] dude, you're gettin a Dell -Stoned Dell dude [16:43] What if they all said "lol" at the same time? [16:43] yeah not the lastest what ever camera from china that no knows the brand lol. [16:43] Pig_Pen: I miss those ad's haha they were so funny. [16:43] eviljames: that was attempted once. [16:43] Pig_Pen: This is what it would look like if they all said "Lol" http://noobfarm.org/viewquote.php?id=1448 [16:43] firebird619: I know, I failed miserably. [16:44] since it is from Dell i am sure it is just rebranded camera, probably a kodak or something [16:44] _ohm (n=nava@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [16:44] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:44] eviljames: haha, I remember that. I like nachox's comment. [16:44] Pig_Pen: It is a Kodak camera. [16:44] eviljames: thats funny [16:45] not quite 272 but plenty none the less [16:45] Kodak cameras are great for bringing grandparents into the digital age. [16:45] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [16:45] i have a cheap kodak [16:45] yeah, cuz they remember their first film camera, a Kodak. :P [16:45] srsly, my 75 year old grandfather has no problem working it w/o any help. [16:45] http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A2067605&cs=19&c=us&l=en&dgc=SS&cid=39715&lid=1003767 [16:47] thats a decent low end camera, i would buy it if i needed one [16:47] yeah, not bad, and $49.99 right now with the code. [16:47] what is that program that 'lets you use a keyboard and mouse between 2 OSes or maybe computers?' I grepped the DVD's desc. txt files, but only a lot of other stuff showed up. [16:48] synergy [16:48] I will check for synergy [16:48] d4vidc: you mean they have a KVM app? [16:48] aceofspa1es19 (n=sgtevans@d207-216-25-60.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:49] oh... it is in extra, that is why I did not see ti [16:49] (why I had not seen it) [16:49] lf4: synergy lets you share keyboard, mouse, etc. with 2 pc's. [16:49] lf4: I know not if it is for KVM or what, it just sounds need [16:49] (sounds neat) [16:50] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [16:50] firebird619: yeah reading about it right now... lol I'll stick with my KVM. [16:50] :) [16:50] Synergy != kvm [16:50] cool idea though. [16:50] but synergy is super cool. [16:51] ag3ntugly (n=x@doc-24-32-9-104.terrell.tx.cebridge.net) joined ##slackware. [16:51] Personally, I avoid the kvm and use vnc [16:51] eviljames: true but if your building systems that dont have a vnc server on them KVM is really the only simple solution. [16:52] What system doesn't have a vnc server on it? [16:52] And if you're building it, why not install one? [16:52] virtual networking? and why would one not want to use synergy? [16:52] haha speaking of that I need to get vnc setup on this machine. [16:52] it sounds good to me [16:52] AzalynX (n=midgar@mcbain.semsolutions.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:53] d4vidc: synergy lets you share a mouse & keyboard across machines, but each machine would need its own display. [16:53] eviljames: I have vnc running on all my machines but this one I just built lol does not even have an OS and I dont have extra monitors lying around after the move so a KVM works great. [16:53] LinuxyErin (n=erin@adsl-75-35-181-176.dsl.ksc2mo.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "leaving" [16:53] whats a good vnc server in slackware? [16:53] lf4: ahh, gotcha. That does make for a compelling KVM case [16:53] Oh yeah... I may as well use synergy then, since I have CRTs and many computers [16:54] lf4: http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=vnc&sv=12.2 [16:54] I meant I may as well use KVM... I do not have much space [16:54] d4vidc: I rather dual screen my systems and use VNC or a KVM lol [16:55] acidkill_ (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) joined ##slackware. [16:56] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:57] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [16:57] I have just read about VNC... is there one for Slackware? [16:57] lol d4vidc there are a few. [16:58] d4vidc: plz see the link I posted to lf4 about 5 minutes ago :D [16:58] x11vnc or tightvnc(also for windows. [17:00] ok; thanks (I have trouble paying attention to everything when there is a lot of talk) [17:00] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-211.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:00] it quites down aftera while and thats what pg-up and pg-down are for ;) [17:02] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [17:04] Glegnar (n=glegnar@host81-159-151-175.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [17:04] acidkill (n=acidkill@user-0c90po6.cable.mindspring.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:05] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:05] Rat409 (n=nobody@bb-205-209-66-178.gwi.net) left ##slackware ("Irssi v0.8.13-svn - http://irssi.org/"). [17:06] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [17:07] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [17:07] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [17:07] tpollard (n=tpollard@eth3227.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [17:08] dangazda (n=daniel@r2u84.net.upc.cz) joined ##slackware. [17:09] hummm is tunneling vnc through ssh fairly straitforward in linux? I was having a nightmare with it in windows. [17:10] Yes.. [17:10] It's easy in Windows too o.O [17:11] Hi straterra. How are you doing? [17:11] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@201.47.103.50) left irc: "Leaving" [17:11] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.176.141) joined ##slackware. [17:11] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.176.141) left irc: Connection reset by peer [17:12] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:14] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.35.177) joined ##slackware. [17:17] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.176.141) joined ##slackware. [17:17] lf4: I tunnel vnc through ssh in WIndows as well as in Linux and have absolutely no problems doing so [17:17] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.107) left irc: "Leaving." [17:18] Hi alienBOB. How are you? [17:18] I am doing good. Compile-a-gogo [17:18] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.107) joined ##slackware. [17:19] lf4: what are you using for your windows sshd? [17:19] nullboy: freesshd [17:19] but that system I converted to slackware :D [17:19] Hey nullboy. How's it going? [17:20] firebird619: all good in the hood [17:20] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.176.141) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:20] I could get ssh to work and also vnc but never got it to push the connection. [17:20] most likely it was misconfigured lol I didn't spend a ton of time on it. [17:21] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.82.30) left irc: "Leaving." [17:21] ./configure --enable-beer --enable-women --disable-work && make install [17:21] :D [17:21] lol [17:21] basically you need to build the ssh tunnel between each system first and then initiate the vnc connection to 127.0.0.1:PORTHERE from the client [17:21] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:21] Hey agentc0re|work. How are you? [17:21] nullboy: http://www.lolworld.com/ [17:21] LOL [17:21] :D [17:21] schneiderr (n=me@p54BBD231.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [17:21] Hello acidchild. [17:21] acidchild: that is hilarious [17:22] i wonder if she knows [17:22] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [17:22] what a epic lame business idea she has? :P [17:22] lol [17:22] firebird619: Good, been working on a bacula script today and i just want it to be 5. my brain feels like mush. :P [17:22] firebird619: yourself? [17:22] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.176.141) joined ##slackware. [17:22] she owns lolworld.com DANG! [17:22] * Learn to send effective email [17:22] lol shes a pro spammer too [17:22] :P [17:22] acidchild: doing great, It's 04:20 [17:23] here [17:23] WOO :D [17:23] 5:25 here :D [17:23] went to my first bbq of the summer today =) [17:23] acidchild: that's epic! [17:23] duryodhan (n=duryodha@122.167.176.141) left irc: Client Quit [17:24] jnz_ (n=jnz_@host246-24-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "night" [17:24] agentc0re|work: :P. I'm doing great. Thanks. [17:24] hey guys, which vncd would you recommend yo run on windows XP systems? [17:24] yo/to [17:24] TightVNC? [17:24] that's what i've been using, ok then [17:24] ultra [17:25] i use ultra at work because it uses mschap2 [17:25] i wonder if KRDC can support connecting to that [17:25] /dev/sdb1 on /mnt type vfat (ro) [17:25] /dev/sdf2 on /mnt type reiserfs (rw) [17:25] I use ultravnc as well on windows. [17:25] why would it let me mount two things to the same folder? [17:25] :| [17:25] acidchild: oh it will [17:25] and that changes the rules a little bit too [17:26] mount /dev/* /mnt ;) [17:26] haha [17:26] haha [17:26] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: [17:26] you can mount on top of mounts and it can get confusing [17:27] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h92n2c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) joined ##slackware. [17:27] and here i was, thinking acidchild was lucid. [17:27] Hello, do you guys got any tips to make slackware easy on the laptop battery? [17:27] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [17:28] what version? [17:28] 12.2 [17:28] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [17:28] Stutteringmatt : get 'powertop' and follow its suggestions [17:28] yeah. ^^^^^ [17:28] powertop? [17:28] google it [17:28] josephseraos (n=joseph@187-24-0-65.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [17:28] josephseraos (n=joseph@187-24-0-65.3g.claro.net.br) left ##slackware. [17:28] yes, 'powertop' [17:29] nullboy: http://slackadelic.com/~ash/hub-plates.jpg [17:29] check them out... [17:29] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/powertop/ <- Stutteringmatt [17:29] nullboy: i love 5axis milling machines [17:29] =D [17:29] schneiderr: have you used it yourself? [17:30] acidchild: you have cnc equipment? [17:30] Stutteringmatt, i dont need it ;P [17:30] :) [17:30] nullboy: yeah, acess to it anyways :-) [17:31] nullboy: i just made something on autocad and bang [17:31] lucky you! [17:31] put in a peice of metal and poop it comes out :D [17:31] the edges are so cleanly cut ;/ [17:31] i'm impressed =P [17:34] MasterX831 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-226-132.mco.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:34] there is a VW camera van around the corner, the girl wants 1000$ for it [17:34] eh.. forgive me for asking (noobish) but how do I enable things into the kernel without downloading a new one? [17:34] avi2mpg is it for slackware too? [17:34] powertop is suggesting some things [17:34] you recompile it [17:34] make menuconfig :D [17:34] and yeah, i'm doing that right now for CONFIG_TIMER_STATS [17:34] or modprobe the modules. [17:35] cd /usr/src/nullboy [17:35] this isn't a module though so if it's not enabled you get to recompile [17:35] rm -rf .* [17:35] nullboy: but how, I mean I know the bare essentials. [17:35] be naughty and go custom on your kernel(s) [17:35] Stutteringmatt: compiling kernels is a dark art ;D [17:35] so cd /usr/src/ [17:35] http://home.pacbell.net/morticus/kernel-build-generic-method.txt [17:35] then make menuconfig [17:36] then rtfm [17:36] trentgbs (n=trentgbs@c-68-49-217-62.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:36] in this case you can just cd into /usr/src and cp the stock source tree to $SOURCE-LOCALVERSION [17:36] then continue on [17:36] trentgbs (n=trentgbs@c-68-49-217-62.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:36] huh? [17:36] zcat /proc/config.gz > /usr/src/linux/.config [17:36] yeah this is beyond the scope of help [17:36] make oldconfig [17:36] make menuconfig [17:37] make bzImage [17:37] i just pasted a whole write up... [17:37] people should read the slack book. [17:37] err make modules, make modules install [17:37] make me a sandwich [17:37] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [17:39] make time > error you have no time. [17:39] nullboy: I used your kernel write up yesterday, it worked great. [17:39] Pig_Pen, sudo ;P [17:39] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding ... another tute [17:39] exactly what i meant, alienBOB [17:39] But nullboy's is a fine one too [17:40] alienBOB: I used yours before too. Thanks for making that available. [17:40] ag3ntugly (n=x@unaffiliated/ag3ntugly) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:42] Zordrak (n=jaz@zelda.tpa.me.uk) joined ##slackware. [17:42] http://imagebin.org/47180 lol! [17:42] Stutteringmatt (n=mathias@h92n2c1o968.bredband.skanova.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:42] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:42] haha [17:43] Pig_Pen: nice [17:43] now you know where the swine flu came from [17:43] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [17:43] heh, that's probably true. :P [17:43] oh man! [17:43] that is so gnarly [17:44] it is possibly shopped [17:44] isn't it bad that there is someone standing there taking a pic? [17:44] nullboy: yes. :) [17:44] pigs arnt *that* dirty, my potbelly pig lives inside [17:44] fsck I almost just fell out of my chair Pig_Pen [17:45] lol [17:46] i seen young children do gross things, i had to keep mine from eating bugs before [17:46] confrey (n=dario@94.163.164.81) joined ##slackware. [17:46] anyone know why images show up as black squares on some sites? http://yfrog.com/37imagesblackj [17:46] new censorship laws [17:46] haha [17:46] darn when did that law get passed? ;) [17:47] lol evidently. [17:47] dont laugh. serious business [17:47] lf4: I've seen this on sites that resize images in the page instead of creating separate thumbnails [17:47] if you look at the image directly, you'll see it's bigger [17:48] jumperboy: yeah that would make sense. [17:48] for some reason, it's an issue with firefox on certain versions of slackware, but i haven't seen it lately [17:48] I always just click and drag so firefox does that "auto copy" thing. [17:48] this is 12.2 with 3.0.9 and its always been happening. [17:49] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [17:49] 3.0.10 was released yesterday, i seen it this morning [17:49] lol really Pig_Pen I havn't been watching. [17:49] /c/c [17:49] http://mozilla.osuosl.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0.10/linux-i686/ [17:50] damn [17:50] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:50] hi everybody [17:50] Hi rworkman. How are you? [17:50] Hi confrey [17:50] i check in the mornings while having coffee before i go to work [17:50] ok, I've installed slack 12.2. on my eeepc again, but why can't I see amsn tray icon in xfce? [17:51] Pig_Pen: FF 3.5 beta 4 is out to now for those that like to test. [17:51] firebird619, i heard it has a "porn mode" now [17:51] lol [17:51] firebird619: Going away for a while :) [17:51] it's been taking hostage by somalian pirates, confrey ;P [17:51] *ten [17:51] taken [17:51] dammit. [17:52] Soul_keeper: Yup, private browsing mode. [17:52] it off to do a few things :) take care all. [17:52] later lf4 [17:52] :) [17:52] lf4 (n=KJR@unaffiliated/lf4) left irc: "taking a break from the computer." [17:52] rworkman: Ok, later. :) [17:52] schneiderr, :) [17:52] NP: Coolio - Gangsta's Paradise [17:52] haha [17:52] Soul_keeper: I use opera, but I tried out the ff beta today. [17:52] i heard on the news that some local Somali fishermen are waging war against the pirates [17:53] toytoy (n=dindin@122.55.142.248) joined ##slackware. [17:53] Soul_keeper: otherwise, I've been using the latest opera 10 snapshot. [17:53] i thought all the local fishermen there turned into pirates. [17:53] anyway. time for pizza. [17:53] firebird619, you still have it installed ? there is a browser benchmark website for the new js engine i can link you to [17:53] not all of them, some just want to make an honest living [17:53] http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/index.action [17:53] Soul_keeper: yeah, I do. [17:54] k, I'll check it out in a few minutes. [17:54] acidtest 3 or something like that [17:54] so far only Apple's Mac passed it [17:54] Pig_Pen: the acid 3 test? [17:55] Opera 10 snapshot passed it too, but it's not released yet. [17:55] http://acid3.acidtests.org/ [17:55] yeah [17:55] acid3 has been passed by any webkit-* browser and opera does too [17:55] Hey Camarade_Tux. How's it going? [17:55] firebird619, pretty well :) [17:56] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:56] I've decided to live with two other guys next year, that should let me spare 100-150¬ per month =) [17:56] firebird619, how is it going for you ? [17:56] Camarade_Tux: going great. Thank you. [17:56] Action: Camarade_Tux is running that browser benchmark in IE8 [17:57] IE8, let me know the results. :) [17:57] :p [17:57] I haven't used IE in years, even when I was on windows I used something else. [17:58] http://imagebin.org/47190 looks like firefox passed [17:59] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@86.87.56.78) left irc: Client Quit [17:59] I prefer IE to firefox, by *far* [17:59] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [18:00] webkit-gtk on windows, last september, with SVG disabled : http://pers.yaxm.org/win_webkit_gtk/acid3.PNG [18:00] whens microsoft going to make IE for Linux ;P [18:00] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [18:01] well, right now, I'm on windows7 ;) [18:01] Pig_Pen: are you serious? :P [18:01] no [18:01] Camarade_Tux: I have Windows 7 in a VM [18:02] Pig_Pen: I didn't think so. :P [18:02] firebird619, mine is *outside* any vm ;) [18:02] i would never taint my Linux install with anything from microsoft, especially not system-wide, i might run it with wine as a user installed in ~/.wine [18:02] Camarade_Tux: Well, I do have it also on a 40 GB hdd, but it's just not connected. [18:03] Camarade_Tux: The next RC or whatever of Windows 7 comes out in may sometime iirc. [18:03] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:03] maybe 30 april actually [18:03] really? that'd be nice [18:03] I need to compile gcc (mingw-w64) on it as quickly as possible =/ [18:04] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [18:04] MasterX831 (n=masterx8@adsl-235-226-132.mco.bellsouth.net) left irc: "BitchX: now with 23 percent fewer calories!" [18:06] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined ##slackware. [18:07] woot, a pair of socks for tomorrow :) /own_life [18:07] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [18:07] Anyone here had to deal with the megasr module? [18:07] not-woot-at-all, I've lost my ID and 50¬ [18:08] othermindszine (n=othermin@223.sub-70-192-215.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [18:08] othermindszine (n=othermin@223.sub-70-192-215.myvzw.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:09] you lost your id and 50 EUR? that isn't good. [18:09] what's megasr by the way (/me found his ID and the 50¬) [18:09] It's a closed-source module for an LSI card. [18:09] Software-based RAID (with some kind of hardware backing) [18:10] trentgbs (n=trentgbs@c-68-49-217-62.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: [18:10] Soul_keeper: FF 3.5 Beta 4 scored 342. [18:10] firebird619, they were in dirty trousers (I have spend a whole week without noticing any of the two was missing...) [18:11] LSI is only supplying for RHEL and SLES. [18:11] And no shim code for non-shipped kernels. [18:11] firebird619, IE8 scored about 250-300 (intel E5450) [18:11] Camarade_Tux: Well, at least you found them. [18:11] and IE8 beta btw [18:11] firebird619 wouldn't be able to compare to someone else with a different cpu/os but good for your own system [18:11] Soul_keeper: yeah, I'm gonna try Opera 10 snapshot now. :) [18:12] Chrome is the fastest 2536, wow. [18:12] try webkit-gtk [18:12] firebird619, look at the config too, it was on a quad core ;) [18:12] I have webkit from SBo installed. What else do I need Camarade_Tux. [18:12] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-230-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:12] they prolly did something odd to get that inflated number, just my guess tho [18:13] Camarade_Tux: yeah. I'm on Linux slackware 2.6.29.2-smp #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Apr 27 19:23:33 CDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [18:13] firebird619: with different flags to uname you can get it to leave out some of the other muck there :P [18:14] eviljames: Ok, I'll look into that. [18:14] safari4 scores very well but the results might be an effect of rendering off-screen first [18:14] firebird619, slackware-current or a kernel you compiled yourself ? [18:14] compiled myself [18:15] Soul_keeper: Ok, running on opera 10 now. [18:15] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-230-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [18:15] BTW, I have like ad blockers and stuff in opera, that would affect the test woudln't it in some way? [18:15] moss23 (n=adam@32.243.broadband5.iol.cz) left irc: "Leaving" [18:15] maybe, i dunno [18:16] I would think maybe make it faster if the ads are blocked out, but then maybe slower because it looks for the ads to block. [18:17] get adblock plus firefox extension [18:17] Soul_keeper: seems like opera's going through it faster than FF beta. [18:17] Pig_Pen: I use AdSweep available for both opera and ff [18:17] Opera 10 Snapshot 393 [18:17] Soul_keeper: ^^ [18:17] interesting [18:18] Soul_keeper: yeah. This week, the new opera 10 snapshot will be released, I'll try on that when it's released. [18:19] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-058-230-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:19] Minefield(v3.0.8) Scored: 539 Points on my quad core system [18:19] nice. [18:20] was a 32 point increase compared to v3.0.5 [18:20] tried dillo? :P [18:20] no, is it GPL ? [18:21] Soul_keeper: I may try eliminating the ad blocker stuff and try the test and see if that does make a difference. [18:21] Soul_keeper: It's on SBo. [18:21] I doubt it'd handle that test well though, just my opinion. [18:21] nice [18:22] I have a host's file changed and all to combat ads. [18:22] That messes up some sites loading right though, which sucks. [18:23] Glegnar (n=glegnar@host81-159-151-175.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:23] the trouble with the hosts file is that it's only a list and ends up being a performance bottleneck itself (needs to test each entry to see if it's blocked) [18:23] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [18:24] Camarade_Tux: Yeah, that's why I think it's affecting the test. [18:24] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@89-212-36-81.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:24] hey is this proper syntax/usage of the append option in lilo.conf? http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/13049 [18:24] I have that and then AdSweep in opera to banish ads. [18:25] nullboy, use addappend instead, it works better/is easier to use iirc [18:25] one day I'll have time to code my own browser... [18:25] Camarade_Tux: addappend = "usbcore.autosuspend=1" ? [18:26] nullboy, as far as I remember, yes [18:26] did you have a problem ? [18:26] Camarade_Tux: what would you name your browser? :D [18:26] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [18:27] firebird619, caravel : http://forge.ocamlcore.org/projects/caravel/ ;-) [18:27] Camarade_Tux: okay, append and addappend are just global vs. per image [18:28] AkumaTw0 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [18:28] brb [18:28] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [18:29] Jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) left irc: "Leaving" [18:29] firebird619, that browser's git repository is working iirc but I wanted to make changes before coding more and never had the opportunity to (basically I wanted process-per-tab like in chrome and safari4 but webkit-gtk won't let you do that right now) [18:30] Camarade_Tux: ok, cool. [18:30] I was pretty happy because in less than 200 lines, I had a browser with an address bar, a status bar, buttons and tabs :) [18:31] that's pretty good. [18:31] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [18:32] ananke: thanks for that Intel powertop suggestion. i did everything it said to do except for the hald polling [18:32] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [18:33] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [18:34] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) joined ##slackware. [18:35] nullboy, you have an encrypted hdd you mentioned earlier - what did you use to encrypt? [18:35] I've just started looking around for howtos [18:36] dive: i used the Slackware README_CRYPT.txt which uses LUKS and i decided to use twofish encryption [18:36] ah right, thanks will read up [18:36] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-12.2/README_CRYPT.TXT [18:36] but! [18:36] alienBOB has posted some errata [18:36] one sec [18:37] http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:setup#errata [18:37] grazymax (n=grazymax@host95-159-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:38] ok [18:38] Yeah I should integrate that back into the official README [18:38] totally [18:38] i keep it on a USB stick for now so i can refer to it during install [18:38] how do i stop wicd to keep starting up at boottime? [18:39] LnxSlck: look in /etc/rc.d [18:39] Pig_Pen, making a rc.wicd stop [18:40] Pig_Pen, will it stop to loading at startup? [18:40] LnxSlck: chmod -x rc.wicd will make it not execute at boot time [18:40] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] eviljames, not a fancy move.. but it will work [18:40] yup, i almost had that typed out and you beat me to it eviljames [18:41] thanks guys [18:41] apaches trying to dl php.. I hate it when it does that [18:41] LnxSlck: heh, doesn't have to be fancy, just has to work. :P If you look for where rc.wicd is called in the start up scripts, odds are it is surrounded by an if [ -x rc.wicd ] or equivalent. [18:41] Coolmax (n=mateusz@ip-94-42-21-2.multimo.gtsenergis.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [18:41] eviljames, ok.. [18:42] sup fellow slackers [18:42] hey slackmagic [18:42] slackmagic: Just slacking away.. yourself? [18:42] comment it out in rc.M (i think that is what calls it) [18:42] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat077.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Connection timed out [18:42] hey slackmagic. How's it going? [18:42] at work ... killing time on my g1 phone [18:43] then it wont launch until you start wicd from a menu or terminal [18:43] that's all i need [18:43] It won't launch if you chmod -x /etc/rc.d/rc.wicd [18:43] no reason to edit rc.M [18:44] Dominian: That's what I had said above :P [18:44] eviljames: yeah I know [18:44] Dominian: btw, firebird619 linked me to your mail server guide. Nice work. [18:44] but apparently it fell upon deaf eyes [18:44] damn it, reinstalling apache or php doesnt help, these packages were never touched... [18:44] eviljames: it needs updating badly [18:44] Dominian: be that as it may, it does provide a good primer on how to get the services running, with appropriate protections. [18:44] d4vidc (i=0@dynamic-66-243-245-170.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:44] but thanks [18:44] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-430340.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:45] I've never had this issue with a default install of slackware.. [18:45] bhodgins: httpd.conf [18:45] bhodgins: If that's too vague, mod_php [18:45] exactly [18:46] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Client Quit [18:46] its including mod_php fine [18:46] didn't uncomment the php stuff in httpd.conf [18:46] yes I did. [18:46] What about the libphp thing? [18:46] Action: eviljames hasn't looked in httpd.conf for a while... [18:46] Did you add index.php as a DirectoryIndex? [18:46] yep [18:46] Soul_keeper: 251 for me for Opera 9.64, vs. Opera 10's 393, that's a huge difference. Both with ad block stuff disabled. [18:46] bhodgins: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHPDownload [18:46] Then something isn't right somewhere [18:46] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:46] bhodgins: read that link [18:47] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [18:47] heh grepping my httpd.conf reveals httpd.conf:LoadModule php5_module libexec/apache22/libphp5.so [18:47] bhodgins: the problem is that Pat uses AddType to enable mod_php, which is wrong. [18:47] bhodgins: But that's on bsd, ymmv. [18:47] bhodgins: it needs to be replaced by AddHandler. [18:47] yeah, thats my point lol, these are untouched packages basicly (cept enabling those lines), ill look though [18:47] bhodgins: read the link I gave you [18:49] oh yeah, forgot about firefox.. [18:49] lol [18:49] AddType is not wrong [18:49] Dominian: it is [18:49] no.. it isn't [18:49] http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_mime.html [18:49] Dominian: http://www.devside.net/articles/php [18:49] As opposed to AddHandler ? [18:49] Dominian: read that. [18:49] AddHandler and AddType do the same thing [18:49] Dominian: no, not quite. [18:49] thumbs: read THAT.. from the horses mouth [18:49] Dominian: that is outdated. [18:49] Dominian: try the 2.2 docs. [18:49] 1.3 is old news, 2.2 is the new hotness [18:50] thx for the reminder though [18:50] The directives AddCharset, AddEncoding, AddLanguage and AddType are all used to map file extensions onto the meta-information for that file [18:50] http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_mime.html [18:50] Dominian: further, AddHandler instructs the SERVER to parse the php code, whereas AddType suggest to the client that it may be parsed. [18:50] My point is this: AddType is in my httpd.conf.. php is parsed just fine [18:51] something isn't right in his configuration [18:51] Dominian: if the client refuses to obey that mime type, the php source can be displayed on the client screen [18:51] Dominian: it'll work. It was proper in 1999 [18:51] oye [18:51] Dominian: since then, things have changed. [18:51] no shit sherlock [18:51] Dominian: Addhandler is now the proper way [18:51] I'm sayin that Addtype works.. something is wrong with his setup [18:51] php also works fine here [18:51] proper or not.. it still fucking works [18:51] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@201.234.200.99) joined ##slackware. [18:51] Dominian: additionally, it avoids cache issues like bhodgins just experienced [18:51] thumbs: if its proper.. email pat tell him to change it [18:51] Dominian: already did. [18:52] Wonderful [18:52] Dominian: rworkman is getting back to me on that [18:52] it was a hack in the 1.3 days. [18:52] it's still a hack. [18:52] Maybe so, but still works. [18:53] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:53] Dominian: Technically, Windows 98 works. Is that a good reason to use it? :P [18:53] just use jboss... :) [18:53] Dominian: well I get tired of supporting users in #httpd who get a php file offered for download. The question comes up 50 times a day [18:53] My point is this: he already has no experience in how it works.. with the default installation AddType works.. get that working first.. then chagne it to AddHandler. [18:53] Dominian: it's about time distros fix their config files, and use AddHandler. [18:54] or perhaps do it right, change it to AddHandler, then clear your cache. [18:54] there is no valid reason to use AddType in 2009. [18:54] whatever you say thumbs [18:55] If what you say is so, why does Apache still include support for in 2009? [18:55] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.80.45) left irc: "Leaving" [18:55] Dominian: I would recommend you read that article, it will clarify the point down to what I am not willing to undergo here [18:55] zlyzir (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [18:55] Dominian: because AddType is useful for other purposes. [18:55] Dominian: not everything is parsed on the server-side [18:55] PeanutHorst (n=peanutlx@sxemacs/gentoo-liaison/PeanutHorst) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:56] Yes.. I know this, however php is [18:56] weird. [18:56] ...ouch. [18:56] Dominian: in particular, if your server has some oddball extension that the client is unlikely to have, and you want httpd to output text/html, then AddType is appropriate [18:56] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.80.45) joined ##slackware. [18:56] my cms worked for... 3 minutes [18:56] LOL [18:57] Dominian: if you like, I can explain it down to the inner workings of httpd. [18:57] not really funny as I'm laughing a bit but hey [18:57] thumbs: Then you would show yourself as being an ass. You went way beyond what point I was trying to make long ago. [18:57] now when I connect to localhost it redirects to /srv/httpd/index [18:58] bhodgins: look at the output from httpd -S, and be sure to set the DocumentRoot properly. [18:58] its all correct [18:58] bhodgins: pastebin the output. [18:59] anyone getting suspend/hibernation problems in -current? [18:59] been trying to figure it out for past couple of hours.. [18:59] Dominian: I do think that the laiser-faire attitude of "We can use AddType, it still works!" is incorrect, and should be rectified. [19:00] I'm pretty sure I know what the problem is, I dont have a rewriteBase in my .htaccess file but it was working for 5 minutes after cleaing the cache ... [19:00] http://pastebin.com/m7e1e2259 [19:00] bhodgins: so what is the DocumentRoot set in httpd.conf? [19:00] http://www.suffix.be/blog/addhandler-addtype-directives/ [19:01] thumbs: much better explanation there than what you gave originally. [19:01] bhodgins: also, pastebin any rewrite rules you have have in the config file, or htaccess [19:01] \set to default, /var/www/htdocs [19:01] thumbs: I see the entire point behind AddHandler [19:01] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:02] usr13 (n=terry@63.149.173.1) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:02] after repeating it a million times in our channel, I get tired of it. So perhaps it came out a little harsh. [19:03] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [19:04] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [19:04] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [19:04] is kernel firmware actually included in kernel source? So if I compile kernel will it also compile/install firmware? [19:05] dive: I guess you'd have to check /usr/src/linux/firmware to find out ... [19:05] dive: your path my vary :P [19:05] bojevnik (n=bojevnik@93-103-100-192.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:05] yes, read the help section for firmware in the kernel source while running menuconfig [19:05] I ask cos I downgraded firmware package on a box and got a lot of WARNINGS! that files had been changed [19:05] tuvok302 (i=vircuser@clgrtnt7-port-107.dial.telus.net) left irc: No route to host [19:05] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Success [19:06] dive : no such thing as 'kernel firmware'. and depending on the firmware, you may likely have to go and download it separately [19:06] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.35.177) left irc: "Saliendo" [19:06] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [19:06] http://pastebin.com/m315ca2a8 [19:06] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [19:07] something like make firmware_install (dont quote me on it) [19:07] the regex isnt that great but mostly because it doesnt listen to me the way I'd like it to wheras I do it in perl lol. [19:07] dangazda (n=daniel@r2u84.net.upc.cz) left ##slackware. [19:07] I write it a better way once before, just gave up on the internal server errors. [19:07] wrote* [19:08] ah right I also found /lib/firmware so I'm assuming it ignores local version when installing? [19:08] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.80.45) joined ##slackware. [19:08] bhodgins: the problem is that your rules will overlap. [19:08] slacknode (n=slacknod@32.170.22.255) joined ##slackware. [19:09] had some warnings that e100 was failing to load fw .. [19:09] well it worked before, why mess up now? [19:09] I didnt rewrite it, I just extracted it from my sources lol [19:09] bhodgins: if you redirect to /index, then mod_dir will append a trailing / in the URI, then the second rule will kick in [19:09] its in Device Drivers > Generic Driver Options > * [19:09] bhodgins: is that what you wanted to achieve? [19:09] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:10] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:10] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [19:10] I'm trying to remember how my uri parser worked.. [19:11] bhodgins: provided, of course, that index is a directory to being with [19:12] Ahat I'd really like is it just to be /([everything possiblehere) and redirect to that, but it uses PHP constants to actualy find the url now, instead of rewrites. [19:12] bhodgins: I'm sorry, I don't follow. Can you elaborate? [19:13] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-173.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] it organizes them via http://host/section/page [19:13] Jean (n=jean@93-36-226-9.ip62.fastwebnet.it) left irc: "leaving" [19:14] anything after page like /blah blah blah gets sent to a variable for possible handling if a script wants to [19:14] bhodgins: give me a sample url before it gets rewritten, and what it should look like at the end. [19:14] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:14] bhodgins: be as precise as possible. [19:14] ok [19:15] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.80.45) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:16] my friend's girlfriend got drunk and lost control, ran outside at 3am and started screaming as loud as she could "call the cops, he's going to beat me" [19:17] he didn't even touch her [19:17] nullboy: what the hell [19:17] whoa [19:17] great friends [19:17] she weights ~100 pounds and had 5 shots [19:17] totally lost it [19:17] so did the cops show up? [19:17] i parsed that as "shoes" [19:17] luckily no [19:18] lock up the liquor [19:18] but all the neighbors came out [19:18] going "WTF" [19:18] haha, offering her some more shots. lol [19:18] berkough (n=berkough@ip70-180-206-62.lv.lv.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:18] lol [19:18] what up people? [19:18] hi berkough [19:18] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:18] confrey (n=dario@94.163.164.81) left irc: "Sto andando via" [19:18] so I've been surfing around for fluxbox themes.... anyone have any favorites? [19:18] /admin/ gets redirected to /path_to_cms_root/content/admin/home.php, /index/toothpaste goes to /path_to_cms/content/index/toothpaste.php. It doesn't include what you submit for the url, but it looks for a php script named after it. [19:18] she is not a good drunk [19:19] bhodgins: fair enough [19:19] Action: berkough is using the Solaris one right now... [19:19] on a sparc machine? [19:20] its basicly a custom cms / toolkit for me that I use to get over my hates about cakephp, AND its an object oriented imporovement of my old cms that sucks. [19:20] no... just fucking around with themes for fluxbox, someone made up one that uses the same colors and whatnot [19:20] plus, gives me something to do. Lol. [19:20] fluxbox, yum [19:20] nullboy: Women like that kinda deserve it. [19:20] bhodgins: RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/path_to_cms_root // RewriteRule (.*)/? /path_to_cms_content/$1.php [L] [19:20] my favorite *box theme is Artwiz, i am not big on themes, i usually select a theme that comes with the package that looks the best [19:21] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.81.38) joined ##slackware. [19:21] same here. [19:21] eviljames: apparently, her last boyfriend beat her and she just got too drunk and flipped out for no reason [19:21] hehe, for sure Pig_Pen....I just got bored and didn't feel like tryingt o make my own [19:21] to* [19:21] hmm [19:22] nullboy: To me, it doesn't matter. That's grounds for divorce if it happens even once. The judicial system has a MASSIVE bias against men in that situation, and the amount of trouble that could be caused by such a false claim far exceeds any value she may have as a human being. [19:22] berkough: acidchild uses a nice theme on fluxbox, I can't recall the name now, it was only 3 letters. [19:22] eviljames: yeah that's what i told my friend. i said that if she's going to use that ammo, drunk or not, it's not fair to you [19:22] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-128-171.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] bhodgins: the condition will prevent it from looping. [19:22] bhodgins: place it in htacces, in the docroot. [19:22] I have to be downstairs, thanks a lot, I'll play around with that [19:22] i agree with eviljames keep that chic away from the booze [19:22] seriously [19:22] No, keep your friend away from that chick. [19:22] acidchild you afk? [19:22] "Houston, we got a PEBCAK." [19:23] bhodgins: ping me if you need mroe help. [19:23] Action: schneiderr is watching When We Left Earth [19:23] lol [19:23] sure will [19:23] nullboy: it takes one time for him to get 3-5 years, and the stigma associated with a domestic violence conviction completely ends someone's life. [19:24] eviljames: yeah, it would have ruined him hardcore [19:24] especually when sexual assault is involved [19:24] oh god, that would've made it 10x worse. [19:25] i would have kicked her to the curb the next day [19:25] nullboy: I had the exact same situation happen with my ex. After 3 years of happily being together, that one incident made me break up with her and never speak to her again. [19:25] battlemidget (n=uzr@cpe-075-182-099-213.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [19:25] nullboy: I strongly recommend that your friend does the same. [19:25] eviljames: he won't do it, but that's the same thing i told him [19:25] eviljames: I dumped my last gf in a similar fashion [19:26] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [19:26] then he better keep her away from the booze [19:26] eviljames: in the middle of the night, dressed in a night gown, on the street [19:26] you guys are giving ex-gf stats a bad name [19:26] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.107) left irc: "Leaving." [19:26] battlemidget (n=uzr@cpe-075-182-099-213.nc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:26] speaking for myself, i couldn't trust a girl after they do something like that, drunk or not [19:26] I even tolerated way too much out of her, she falsely played the preggo card on me once, we had some ups & downs, I lent her a bunch of money, whatever... [19:26] eviljames: didn't speak to her ever again [19:26] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [19:26] thumbs: Good job man! [19:27] thumbs: Good riddance to her, in my eyes. [19:27] why do girls thinks that it's OK if they lie to you, but it's NOT if you do the same? [19:27] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.107) joined ##slackware. [19:27] eviljames: indeed [19:27] you heard the old saying, "all is fair in love & war" [19:27] It's because they're hot. Hot girls get away with murder! [19:27] ditch girls, get women. [19:27] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.80.45) left irc: Success [19:27] Action: eviljames is also extremely superficial [19:28] Most of the girls I date people say: "That girl is WAY out of his league..." [19:28] Case in point: current gf.. [19:28] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.107) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:28] http://imgur.com/FO86.jpg [19:28] find a low maintenence woman who does not play games and does not spend to much money on cosmetics [19:28] Pig_Pen: ++ couldn't agree more. [19:29] Pig_Pen: but if she happens to be gorgeous, that helps :P [19:29] sure, the prettier the better [19:29] eviljames: you both look youn [19:29] Nick change: slacknode -> slacknode_in-cla [19:29] young, too [19:29] thumbs: well, I'm 26 and she's 23... so pretty young I guess. [19:29] eviljames: oh yes, youngins. [19:30] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.153.139) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:30] heh, and I've STILL been slacking since v.3! [19:30] err, that is 3. not .3 :P [19:30] Nick change: slacknode_in-cla -> slacknode_ [19:30] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:31] eviljames: shes a looker :D [19:31] love that black hair [19:31] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) left irc: "leaving" [19:31] Pig_Pen: You should see her sister ;) [19:31] haha [19:31] lol [19:32] post a pic if you got it [19:32] eviljames' girlfriend is hawt [19:32] SHE'S a slacker too, no less. [19:32] a little young for my taste. [19:32] eviljames: oh boy. [19:32] Even more conservative than I am, she won't budge from kde3.5 [19:33] Not until digiKam and amaroK work as good or better in kde4. [19:33] I am trying to sell my girl friend on digikam [19:33] lmao [19:33] berkough: I looked in my logs, fluxbox theme is Nyz. [19:34] slacknode_ (n=slacknod@32.170.22.255) left irc: "used jmIrc" [19:34] sweet, thanks firebird619 [19:34] kde-3.5x is fine, i tried kde-4.x in current last weekend its ok, but i think the kde team needs to work on it some more, plenty of eyecandy but performance is important too [19:34] yw [19:34] How could that be a hard sell? My girl won't touch a computer without it. [19:34] eviljames: she comes from a windows background. [19:34] eviljames: I have to give her time. [19:35] thumbs: ahh, yeah, breaking them in does take a while. [19:35] The only windows we have in our house are in the walls. [19:36] Pig_Pen: I find that kde4 performs well... I have it on lappy and work comp and haven't noticed any performance issues. [19:36] Other than Klipper not performing actions correctly for me. [19:37] pupit (n=p@91.150.106.107) joined ##slackware. [19:38] yeah, kde4 is not bad, i have 2.2g dual core and a gig of ram that should handle it fine, i just noticed a little slowness (and a few bugs) compared to kde-3.5.x and i know Pat does a good job of building it [19:38] thats why i think the kde team needs to keep working on it [19:38] Action: thumbs prefers xfce [19:39] it always sounds like I'm the only one with a really minimal desktop [19:39] Camarade_Tux, flux? [19:39] bhodgins_ (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. [19:39] haha. wpa_supplicant lead to a kernel panic [19:39] dive, no, bare openbox [19:39] seccond time its done it [19:39] I've always found fluxbox sooooooooo ugly [19:40] hmm haven't tried open yet [19:40] funny [19:40] Camarade_Tux: It can be nice if you get the right theme. [19:40] dive, there's a slackbuild available and it builds really quickly :) [19:40] openbox is nice, i like it [19:40] firebird619, I've tried lots of them (really lots) and never found any I enjoyed [19:40] my rides herre! [19:40] I'll have a look then [19:40] bhodgins (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:40] otoh I've removed borders in openbox [19:41] anyway, openbox suits me really well :) [19:41] building.. [19:41] Action: Camarade_Tux has about 6H20 left to sleep [19:42] well, good night everybody :) [19:42] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-82-19-50.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [19:44] bhodgins_ (n=bhodgins@pool-64-223-224-206.port.east.myfairpoint.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:46] eddie_grey (n=eddie@187-6-30-74.ggs6102.3g.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [19:48] UrT is so fucking gay sometimes... you get these 12 year old kids, and that's all they do, it's impossible to play [19:49] hahahah All I heard was "waaaahhh I'm not good enough at UT :(" [19:49] hahaha, eviljames I take it you play then? [19:49] oh no [19:49] I'm nowhere near good enough ot play online :D [19:49] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.116.194) joined ##slackware. [19:49] not Unreal, Urban Terror [19:50] Oh [19:50] Action: eviljames googles [19:50] berkough: what's your UrT name? [19:50] berkough [19:50] I used to be good, but the kids beat me up anymore, then make fun of me [19:50] you play uptown? [19:50] yeah, Alpha clan's 24/7? or just in general? [19:50] I do like that map... again though, I get owned by all these pre-pubesent kids in their Mom's basements [19:51] i'm asking because i plan to use "find friend" sometimes to check your skills :) [19:51] Is this game online ONLY or is there a campaign mode? [19:51] haha, you'll be disappointed spiki [19:51] berkough : ahh, nothing like perspective. from your insults, i was mistaking you for one of them [19:51] eviljames: no campaign [19:51] nah man, I'm 23, still in college, I don't have near enough time to get as good as those kids [19:51] greymaus (n=greymaus@86-46-193-23-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:52] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@201.234.200.99) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:52] what kids are good? haven't really see anyone exceptionally good [19:52] eviljames, it's straight online, unless you want to setup your own server and use bots [19:52] (except 3 guys who own that game... but all 25+ afaik) [19:52] but bots aren't supported and usually crash the server [19:52] berkough, spiki: thanks dudes, I'll still check it out anyway. [19:52] Now, headed home. [19:53] http://www.urbanterror.net [19:53] eviljames: check smokin-guns.net also [19:53] yeah, that one is pretty sweet too [19:53] berkough: found that through goog, thanks. [19:53] spiki: will do [19:53] be shure not to go to smoking-guns.net (different game :) [19:53] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@typhi.phdcomputing.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [19:53] UrT >> cs, css, and may i say Q3 :) [19:54] bookmarked both. Thanks dudes. catch ya later [19:54] uva- (i=bno@118-168-237-154.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [19:54] c ya [19:54] peace man [19:54] berkough: want to play now? [19:54] lol, sure I'm in the mood to get pwned [19:54] i might play 30 minutes or so... before sleep [19:54] what server? [19:55] Anyone here have experience with xrandr not detecting all available resolutions of an output device? Sometimes it correctly displays them and sometimes it doesn't. It seems to be a crap shoot where sometimes it does display everything. 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[19:56] uva (i=bno@118-168-237-154.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: SendQ exceeded [19:56] spiki, don't normally play survivor, usually TDM, but I'm down [19:57] well, tdm ain't gonna give you chance to watch experienced players [19:57] lol, alright [19:58] McT has one going right now [19:58] 9 people I think [19:58] eddie_grey (n=eddie@187-6-30-74.ggs6102.3g.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:58] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Connection reset by peer [19:58] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [19:58] BP{k} (n=michiel@unaffiliated/michiel) left irc: Nick collision from services. [19:58] Nick change: BP{k}_ -> BP{k} [19:58] _ohm (n=nava@own30694RN.rh.ncsu.edu) left irc: "Leaving" [19:59] wth? [19:59] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [19:59] it may be unbelievable to you... but i have UrT on spectator mode almost all the time i see one of the top players [19:59] (yoshi, kai@stoned, devi0us) [19:59] kethry (n=kethry@unaffiliated/kethry) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:59] did I time out or something? [19:59] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: Success [20:00] Nick change: eddie_ -> Eddie_Grey [20:00] Wescotte: yes when EDID can not be detected by xorg [20:00] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [20:00] yeah man, I've been watching videos and I spectate everyonce in a while [20:01] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDID [20:02] berkough: fr uptown, 94.23.36.18:29000 (barbatos) [20:02] alright, one sec [20:02] SQlvpapir_ (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:02] tecky (n=guest@cpe-67-240-26-1.nycap.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [20:02] /wave :P [20:03] spiki what's your nick on UrT? [20:03] The-spiki (now and most of the time). sometimes spiki or Spirkowsky [20:03] Pig_Pen: yeah reading that now.. --> Special programs are available to override the standard timing descriptors from EDID data; PowerStrip for Microsoft Windows and SwitchResX for Mac OS X. Even this is not always possible however, as some vendors' graphics drivers (notably those of Intel) will not accept custom resolutions, which can make it all but impossible to use the screen's native resolution. <-- I don't think [20:03] this is my problem as it sometimes correctly sees the resolution.. [20:03] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.81.38) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:04] ryan_fu (i=de402030@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e2ffade378298474) joined ##slackware. [20:04] you could try read-edid but it is an old package (has not been worked on since 1999) [20:04] Floops (n=baihu@freakozoid.floops.info) joined ##slackware. [20:04] btw, @everyone. i apologise for offtopic. [20:05] spiki ping is too high for me to join....... I didn't think there was a topic in this chat, just everyone shuts up when someone has a serious slack question [20:05] Pig_Pen: I think I'll update my xf86-video-intel driver and see what happens too.. otherwise I just xrandr a few dozen times until it works :) [20:06] hopefully intel makes a decent driver for you to use [20:06] this is bound to get you chicks in mass quantity http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/cell-phone/9190/ [20:06] they be all "dang, that man is OPERATOR leet" [20:07] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:07] if you wear that one and combine it with this at the same time you'll be unstoppable http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/bags/918a/ [20:07] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] use it for a bandelero [20:07] berkough: but now there is... pm for server? [20:07] ryan_fu (i=de402030@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e2ffade378298474) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [20:09] sombriks (n=sombriks@201009019213.user.veloxzone.com.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:11] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [20:11] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:12] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [20:14] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:14] appzer0 (n=appzer0@bes31-1-88-188-134-86.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:15] anyone running 2.6.29+ and have a "/sys/module/processor/parameters/max_cstate" ? [20:16] thrice`: I just have ignore_ppc and latency_factor. 2.6.29.2 [20:16] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:16] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:18] Eddie_Grey (n=eddie@189.34.61.154) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:18] thrice: running 2.6.29.1 I have the same as firebird619 [20:18] same here :( [20:18] i dont trust recent kernels anymore. [20:19] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [20:19] 28.9 it is for me still. [20:19] after the beta-testers have confirmed it's ok to use, i'll try out 29.6 or so. [20:20] 2.6.29.x is looking bloated, but it does support a lot of archies, even when built i notieced it was a little bigger than 2.6.27.21 [20:20] SpyKee (n=spiki@85.222.135.2) joined ##slackware. [20:20] Akuma0n3 (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:24] Pig_Pen: hmm well it still doesn't work 100%.. However if I start X w/ the cable plugged in it does seem to find the right resolution.. However if I plug it in after X is running and do xrandr it still doesn't list everything.. ah well [20:28] atha (n=atha@unaffiliated/athayde) joined ##slackware. [20:32] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:32] better than nothing i gues [20:32] guess* [20:33] I got somebody that is trying to download the slack dvd from the torrent, he says there's no seeders :( [20:33] I have been seeding it since release [20:34] maybe he is mistaken then [20:34] 12.2? they are late for downloading via torrents, that storm was over about two weeks after it was released [20:35] heh [20:35] 220 seeds right now [20:35] you can still get good speeds [20:35] excellent, thanks twolf [20:35] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [20:36] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [20:36] 220 seeds of slack-12.2? thats pretty good this late in the slackware release cycle [20:37] 219 dialup users and a stale seed .... yay ;P [20:37] v4nelle (n=van@adsl46-111.lsf.forthnet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:37] shows how strong our community is [20:37] lol! [20:37] or, that. [20:37] I always keep the slack torrents open until the next release [20:38] Neither family wants the children's bodies exhumed for testing."Why?" Mendoza said. "It's been months since he died. The child has made his peace with God. He's with the Virgin now." [20:38] .... [20:38] http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hROQeIs-igcvLYIjF4rOb36RMgpgD97RPE800 [20:38] i seeded like 100GB or so of the cd's then figured you didn't need my help anymore [20:38] i only seed for a week too, i dont want my ISP to get mad at me [20:40] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-72-70-128-171.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left irc: "rcirc on GNU Emacs 22.2.1" [20:40] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.35.177) joined ##slackware. [20:41] rebellis (i=666@modemcable039.124-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [20:41] that flu in mexico sounds bad, they closed the schools and restaurants serve "to go" orders only hopefully they get a handle on it soon [20:41] well the culture there isn't helping the situation much either [20:42] it's in canada, usa, uk and europe now too [20:42] yep [20:42] no longer a mexican problem [20:42] its global now [20:42] gbonvehim (i=1000@200.69.244.1) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:42] but remember guys, it's just the flu and people dying from it are usually compromised already, in some way [20:43] they either wait too long to seek help because they can't afford it or simply won't go [20:43] texas & kansas, none in oklahoma that i know of yet but i am sure it is here, i dont go shopping when the stores are crowded (early morning) told the wife to do the same thing, avoid crowded places [20:43] nullboy : uhmm, wrong, wrong wrong [20:44] ananke: school me then [20:44] one more reason to visit antartica. awesome weather, no flu probs there. YAY: [20:44] hehe [20:44] nullboy : this strain of flu is actually very peculiar, since unproportionally high number of individuals age 20-40, in good health, are affected/dying [20:44] all the MS mexico employee's at the call centers get to work from home i heard [20:45] ananke: do you know the age<->death break down yet? i'm having a difficult time finding that estimate [20:45] nullboy : i don't have exact numbers, except that it's higher than any other flu [20:46] Google Maps already has a page of where all the cases of it are. [20:46] they usually say if something specifically is bad for children and the elderly (at least in UK) but the fact they haven't mentioned this might be bad [20:47] http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/04/22/missing.virus.sample/index.html [20:47] there you go [20:47] strange thing is it's been said on the news that we have enough flu vaccine in the UK to treat 1/2 the population - how comes? [20:47] unless any flu vaccine will work [20:47] strange thing is that they seem to die like flies in mexico and nowhere else. [20:47] schneiderr : you must be talking about the equine flu. very different. heck, our labs work on it [20:48] nana. the recent thing. [20:48] dive: I don't think any flu vaccine will work, there's talk of having a vaccine for this swine flu in six months or so. [20:48] schneiderr : just because it's recent, doesn't mean it's related [20:48] ananke: is the vt lab working with WHO or cdc right now? [20:48] on the swine flu i mean [20:49] schneiderr : and of course mexico sees more cases, since that's where this pandemic began in [20:49] jaja, anake. dont get fancy with words ;P genetics from swine, bird and human flu. not very likely to occur naturally in an area not crowded with pigs or birds .... i mean. it's mexico. [20:49] nullboy : not to my knowledge, i was talking about the equine flu [20:49] ah [20:49] ananke, yeah. and mexico is full of pig farms, bird farms. ;P [20:50] mexico city, it started, if i recall correctly. [20:50] Pig_Pen: good plan to avoid crowds; carry some hand wipes to use after using shopping cart [20:50] they dont tell us everything they know about it. i call it bullshit. [20:50] schneiderr : i yet see any connection between swine flu pandemic and equine flu incident [20:51] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.77.72.182) left irc: "leaving" [20:51] Anakin, ;P i mean ananke then i rest my case. cos im not going for that connection. [20:51] firebird619: I heard that they're using tamil flu vaccine to fight the swine flu ( not sure how to spell tamil) [20:51] hitest : tamiflu [20:51] hitest: yeah, they're using tamiflu to treat it. [20:52] I thought tamiflu was a medication, not a vaccine, maybe I'm wrong. [20:52] what else can they use. ack firebird619 [20:52] as far as i know there is no vaccine yet, tamiflu is just a treatment [20:52] ah ty, tamilflu [20:52] hitest : 'tamiflu'. only one 'l' [20:52] it helps shorten duration and intensity if applied soon enough [20:52] nullboy: yeah, tamilflu is just treatement, they don't have a vaccine yet. [20:52] and theres flu strains with reported resistance towads tamiflu [20:53] and I just looked it up, tamiflu is a medication, not a vaccine. [20:53] nullboy: right, not a vaccine, a medication [20:53] pandemic kinda states big time "lack of vaccine" right there ;P [20:53] thanks for the correction. so tamilflu is doing the job. [20:54] schneiderr : uhmm, you're making very little sense, and only spreading FUD [20:54] hitest: yes, so far, but they're also working to develop a vaccine also I think. [20:54] it can/should. if administered correctly [20:54] firebird619: that woul be good [20:54] would [20:54] ananke, so ignore me ;P [20:54] hitest: yes, for sure. [20:54] i had a really nasty flu early this year that ended with me having conditional bronchitis, for which i took antibiotics. I'm pretty sure i picked it all up from surfing in polluted ocean water [20:55] schneiderr : i'd prefer to correct you. last thing we need is ##slackware to turn into twitter [20:55] hitest: What I've heard so far is around 6 months for developing a vaccine, but who knows. [20:55] it wont. [20:55] greymaus_ (n=greymaus@86-46-201-78-dynamic.b-ras1.pgs.portlaoise.eircom.net) joined ##slackware. [20:55] schneiderr (n=me@p54BBD231.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("*.net *.split"). [20:55] Relenza [20:55] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) left irc: "link closed" [20:56] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.31.200) joined ##slackware. [20:56] firebird619: I'll bet the researchers are working like dogs on this! [20:56] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-170-19.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:56] hi MLanden:) [20:57] Heya,folks...How's everyone? [20:57] hitest: yeah, for sure. [20:57] hi MLanden [20:57] honestly, i'm not too worried about this one. it could be bad but we've seen cycles like this in the past. if people can break the transmission cycle just long enough to run out the typical incubation period it will subside, albeit slowly...but the "omg epidemic" phase will end at some point [20:57] heya,hitest [20:57] Hey MLanden. How's it going. [20:57] hey,dive [20:57] they use live fertile chicken eggs to incubate the virus, the cripple it so it dont make you sick when they innoculate you [20:57] I'm good MLanden:) [20:57] Goin' good for the night,firebird619 [20:58] "omg epidemic" is news hype [20:58] That's good to hear,hitest [20:58] :) [20:58] you okay? [20:58] nullboy : yep, let's hope so. i think the concern here is that the same strain has caused a huge pandemic in 1918, that's why there is more focus on this particular flu [20:58] Pig_Pen, bathtime is like WW3 baby vs. mom [20:59] aka, 'it's not just yet-another-spring-flu' [20:59] nullboy: yeah, I also hope it dies a quick death [20:59] ananke: yeah, my mother reminded me of hong kong flu, which she actually caught in canada back then [20:59] Hi nix_chix0r. How are you? [20:59] same sort of situation [20:59] firebird619, i'm good, yourself? [20:59] heh, just wait until your baby hits those "Terrible Twos" [20:59] ananke: I didn't think this was the same strain of anything, I had heard they'd never seen this before. [20:59] nix_chix0r: Doing great. Thank you. [21:00] dormant strain of some sort,firebird619? [21:00] new mutation [21:00] child-proof your home now, like under the kitchen sink cleaning chemicals & etc... [21:00] Jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) joined ##slackware. [21:00] Pig_Pen: swine flu is not new and it has jumped the human-animal before. the reason they say "new" in this case is because it is still a swine variant but it has a slightly modified genetic makeup this time around [21:00] It's swine + bird + human. [21:01] varients all in one. [21:01] and let's clear this one up...YOU CAN EAT PORK DAMN IT [21:01] flying pig flu [21:01] nullboy: haha. [21:01] Pig_Pen, oh yeah, i'll lock that up and cover outlets but i'm not going to make my home a bubble just because he wants to put cereal in the dvd player [21:01] lol [21:01] my ex flu [21:01] every time it transmists from one human to another is a generation for the virus to mutate & modify (evolution in action) [21:01] frightening stuff [21:01] the FUD level is rising in here...i must go away [21:02] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:02] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) joined ##slackware. [21:02] hello all [21:02] Hi [21:02] nix_chix0r: When he gets older, you'll find food and stuff in places you'd never dream of. :) [21:02] hi [21:02] hey Old_Fogie [21:02] Old_Fogie, mrning [21:02] werd up old one [21:02] heya,Old_Fogie [21:02] Old_Fogie: Hey, How's it going? That xfce menu trick worked great. [21:02] :D [21:02] food is eaten at the table. i'll beat a child otherwise:)) [21:02] :) [21:03] alright time to attempt bath time bbl [21:03] nix_chix0r: In the last year, my niece, cousin, and sister all had babies, little boys. The oldest is crawling now. [21:03] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:03] nix_chix0r: no no, beating leaves bruises...you gotta shake em ;) [21:03] rofl NO [21:03] j/k too [21:03] straterra: alives? [21:03] Dominian: alives? [21:04] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] tecky: They're both alive, just not around right now. [21:04] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.77.72.182) joined ##slackware. [21:04] they got the flu :P [21:04] lol [21:04] bagh [21:04] i hate them both [21:04] mates, I installed gnome from the dropline guys...! I have 2 pc running it but I read recently that dropline is crap. Mess with the system... so I got a bit scary and wondering if I should switch to another package.. [21:04] they are dead to me! DEAD to me! :P [21:04] dive: i liked that flying pig flu comment that was awesome [21:05] Does anyone have any opinion abt it? [21:05] nullboy, thanks ;-) [21:05] a good nam for it I think [21:05] Jsonic: slackware officially is not a gnome distro, if i needed gnome i would dual boot slackware with debian [21:05] Jsonic: I would not try and switch at this point, unless you want to reinstall. [21:06] Jsonic, dropline isn't crap, I used it for years. do they add invasive software - that adds for better functionality to gnome, and is targeted at increasing the users security yes. would I recommend them for 12.2 - no. take from that what you will. [21:06] dive: That's a very good name for it. :) [21:07] Okey mates.. tks I haven't got any problem so far either... [21:08] quite honestly, i don't understand why dropline simply doesn't fork slackware [21:08] Jsonic: I've run GSB, it is another solid version of gnome for slack, not sure tho if there's a 12.2 version yet [21:08] Jsonic, the dev's have a good forum, and are responsive too, so if an issue does arise you're not "left alone" either. they have a channel on the irc here too. [21:08] can we export this new flu to North Korea and Iran? [21:08] Its because I have one web server and smth times I use gnome to modify stuff.. so, I dont wanna get any trouble.. ;O) [21:08] as much work as it takes go build gnome you might as well make a slackware fork made just for it [21:09] ivan8013_ (n=ivan8013@190.148.35.177) joined ##slackware. [21:09] ananke, the gnome these days requires a lot of packs to be replaced, your fork question definitely has merit to it. [21:09] XGizzmo, a serious answer would be: if it gets sequenced and published, then yes [21:09] true,Old_Fogie [21:09] Old_Fogie: agreed [21:09] stitchman (n=stitch@pool-72-82-189-32.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:09] The major problem is that I have some gstreamer app in development, that's why I had to install gnome. Ill see if a can make a dual boot here without damages...;o) [21:10] ananke, looking at the stuff that needed for kde 4.2 , alot of them need to be yanked out already, rebuilt for gnome 2.6. so the stuff that's even in --current now, is of no use to a gnome user. [21:10] Jsonic, just for future knowledge, you can build gstreamers from the buildscripts at SBo, so if your gnome bombs, or you reinstall, taht is very easy to add to a clean 12.2 install of Slack. [21:10] Old_Fogie : and historically, dropline was adding a lot of extra packages. i presume it would be just easier [21:11] ananke, honestly, yea it would. [21:11] imo [21:11] Old_Fogie: Really man, I didnt found any thing related to it. Nice to know.. tks man! [21:12] mib_3tt2dnov (i=438339ea@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-197a5e4714ce8982) joined ##slackware. [21:12] I build gnome here, and I have to yank out alot of stuff on 12.1, 12.2. some are optional rebuilds, but I believe if it links ..it should get a rebuild to be 'clean' binaries that are right, and squash out an ABI/api conflict early on so errors dont carry thru the system. [21:13] but kde 4 utilizes many things that were traditionally gnome only, which I applaud them for doing, so you dont have duplicity, but the fact is, on slack --current, they're not built with gnome in mind. heck, libwnck , mesa are two things that come to mind right away that want gnome libs onboard for example. [21:14] I have to go now mates. Good Night [21:14] Jsonic (n=jsonic@189.63.215.52) left irc: "Leaving" [21:14] Old_Fogie: i feel that same way but I am confused as to how it really works. If something dynamically links to Lib-X, shouldn't we only have to rebuild Lib-X? [21:14] i'm really don't fully understand that [21:14] nullboy, I'm confused too :) but I have a good example is 'pixman'. [21:15] nullboy, if you just go in now, and build a new pixman, you'll bork all gtk apps in 12.2 [21:15] so that's an ABI issue, [21:15] pixman is a PITA regardless [21:15] the B being binary [21:15] so that sounds like a static situation or an API change? [21:15] so it's an ABI issue nullboy [21:15] ok [21:15] so for new gnome right, you need new pixman [21:15] you'll bork the gtk stack [21:16] but if you rebuild your gtk stack, the pixman will report "hey new app trying to build, that command is depracated, use this instead" or ..worse, you gotta write a patch for your new app to use the new abi in pixman. [21:17] but since pixman is so early on in the build of a gtk stack, for me, I'd rather yank *all* stuff that links to it, build/install new pixman and then rebuild the gtk items that links to pixman. [21:17] wonder how that would be against a system with xfce installed? [21:17] stillborn (n=blow_my_@YMKCMXXVIII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) joined ##slackware. [21:17] I'd rather find the bug , or breakage early, then later, try and build something, and get errors that mean nothing. [21:18] I'll give ya another one, cairomm, you upgrade that, you get errors that are libpng related. and its' not libpng, it's the error reporting that makes you thing it's libpng. that one sent me on a goose chase. [21:18] mogunus (n=user@173.9.7.10) joined ##slackware. [21:18] they completely changed some stuff around not too long ago with libx11 and libxcb much of the old stuff breaks [21:18] bbl gents......dinner awaits....pasta:) [21:19] later hitest [21:19] later firebird619:) [21:19] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: [21:19] Soul_keeper, yeah that's a mess right now. many people can build X but have no keyboad too [21:20] MLanden, xfce uses pixman yes, as it's a gtk enviro [21:20] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [21:20] that's what I was thinking,Old_Fogie...just a minor tweak here and there [21:21] MLanden, basically, freetype,glib2,atk,cairo,pango,gtk+2,pixman,dbus-*,hal,udev,py*, all affect xfce [21:22] OK [21:22] also, xfce if built seing kde will build a tray support, not sure how deep linkage that is off top of my head [21:22] MLanden, oh vte, xterm too for xfce are linkd [21:22] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:23] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [21:23] SuN (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:24] SuN (i=unices@82-170-225-106.ip.telfort.nl) joined ##slackware. [21:24] ivan8013 (n=ivan8013@190.148.35.177) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:24] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-55-52-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:25] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@201.10.88.87) joined ##slackware. [21:25] I tell ya tho, that "hack" I did here for xfce-4.6 to use kde's menu's is working nice. I think I'm gonna stay on xfce 4.6. [21:25] cool,Old_Fogie [21:25] yea I like it. [21:25] ..now [21:26] Old_Fogie: yes, I implemented that hack last night, HUGE improvement, works great. [21:26] I had so many other apps in 'otehr' menu [21:26] now that's gone [21:26] firebird619, ah good to hear :) [21:26] glad it worked for you too, I'm on Slack 12.1 but backported kde 3.5.10 from 12.2 to my 12.1 so I figured it "should" work. [21:27] there is some script or tuto to install slackware on a bootable usb disk? [21:27] if it runs clean a few more days, I'll probably put it up on slackwiki for others. [21:27] sweet,Old_Fogie [21:27] Old_Fogie: It sure cleaned up the menu. One thing I noticed is it didn't put OOo stuff in an OpenOffice.org menu like KDE does, but it really helped clean things up. [21:28] xMDKx: you install it just like you would a normal harddrive [21:28] in time, tho, I do hope, that xfce re-implements a menu editing app like they had before tho. that's very useful. [21:28] yes, I hope so too. [21:28] XGizzmo_: no additional conf needed? [21:28] you just need to add rootdelay=10 to the kernel at boot [21:29] mib_3tt2dnov (i=438339ea@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-197a5e4714ce8982) left irc: "http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" [21:29] the usb subsystem needs a bit of time to catch up and get the filesystem up. [21:29] I used to have a nice menu entry for typical used stuff, I miss that one. And I do still miss, using the alt click on desktop, get your menu pop up there, and choose logout for shutting down. But, to fix that for now, I keybinded "ctrl + q" to "close application" right, and so now, if I hit "ctrl + q" I get the logout window popup. [21:29] XGizzmo_: wow, great, I'll try it later, thanks [21:30] ##slackware: mode change '+o nachox' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [21:30] Action: XGizzmo_ steals nachox's @ [21:30] Topic changed on ##slackware by nachox!n=nacho@190.51.31.200: Guidelines: http://tinyurl.com/3kox9k | http://slackbook.org | http://slackwiki.org | http://slackbuilds.org | http://slackware.com/getslack | This Channel has Public Logs | http://freenodeslack.blogspot.com/ | http://slackwaregallery.org | Slackware 12.2 Released December 9, 2008 | Use a torrent: http://slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php | Security: firebug... err... firefox | heads up: BitchX EOL notice [21:31] "firebug" <---- :) [21:31] Old_Fogie: Ah, I just got to thinking, I have something installed that puts gnome stuff in a gnome menu in KDE and KDE stuff in a KDE menu, I bet that's what messed with mine a bit with the xfce menu and OOo. [21:32] impact: critical [21:32] firebird619, probably, and I'm guessing here, you have something in /etc/xdg/menus that's affecting it, or in /etc/kde/xdg/menu directory. I build my gnome to use the /etc/xdg , but not all gnomes do so I cant tell ya where to look for that on your box there. seems new xfce uses (I'm not on it, but recalling here) ?/etc/xfce/xdg? [21:32] Hi nachox. How are you? [21:32] god, firefox sucks worse than internet explorer... [21:32] lol [21:33] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [21:33] seriously, when was the last time we had an explorer exploit? [21:33] Old_Fogie: Yeah, I'm assuming that what I have installed affects it somewhat, I don't have gnome installed at all though atm. [21:34] nachox, it certainly does feel that way for sure. is this the beauty of opensource where people review it, and it fixed fast, or is this bad code that needs a lot of fixing. i'm torn on it, but it's annoying to say the least, two-four updates in a month. [21:34] nachox: not sure, FF sure seems like it's had a lot lately though. [21:34] firebird619, yea look at the 2.X FF, that had a ton of updates, thunderbirds too. [21:34] Old_Fogie: Have you tried FF3.5b4 yet. [21:34] thunderbird, is what 21 updates so far. [21:34] heh, I don't use FF or thunderbird. [21:34] just test em now and then [21:34] or if a site won't load in opera [21:34] firebird619, yeah it's much nicer than 3 from perfomrnace, I build the beta today :) [21:35] stillbor1 (n=blow_my_@YKCCCLXII.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:35] it's still not as fast as opera tho. [21:35] Old_Fogie: no, not at all. [21:35] Old_Fogie, that's marketing crap, no matter how opensource the code is, only people who have worked on it for some time know what any given change can do, and the only people that know that are the full time developers of the product [21:35] but it's going to be a well received upgrade for my family that uses it for sure. [21:35] nachox: by just mentioning that will cause an expoyte in internet explorer [21:36] nachox, yea its' certainly not a 'hello-world' app :) [21:36] and for the record nachox.... http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2009-1335 [21:37] Old_Fogie: I ran a test Soul_keeper gave me today, opera 10 snapshot got a 393 compared to ff 3.5 b4's 342. It was like a rendering/speed test. [21:37] 04/17/2009 [21:38] Old_Fogie, nod, i wish people got over that stupid idea that it's more secure or better programmed because it's opensource [21:38] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:38] nullboy, *blush* i should have known that, i should have seen that earlier this month [21:38] firebird619, yeah it was solely javascript performance, dunno if they plan to add other stuff [21:38] firebird619, well the interesting thing is, firefox is designed with much older gtk/cairo/pango stack, opera uses qt4 so I'd think opera should inherintely be faster. plus, if opera rolls in them new rendering features of the latest qt4, it might even be faster I'd think. [21:39] Soul_keeper: It was a nice test none the less. [21:39] them qt4 render patches at SBo, woh they really work. [21:39] same people that made 3dsmark [21:39] Old_Fogie: I can't wait to see what opera 10 final is like, it isn't even in beta and it's both stable and extremely fast. [21:40] yeah I should give that a go later on [21:40] and opera is celebrating 15 years of browser evolution, see their site :) [21:40] This week a new snapshot comes out, I just don't know when, but I anxiously wait. :) [21:40] the interesting thing with opera is, you can still run their latest version on windows 98 [21:40] no end of life BS like the mozilla's are pushing. they wanna stop supporting win 2k now too, wtf. [21:40] xMDKx: yup. [21:41] nullboy, 2 this year against 4 for firefox [21:41] Old_Fogie: I think there's going to be big things coming with Opera 10, They haven't even started adding the new features yet, just made the thing faster and squashed bugs. [21:41] people say, well as time goes bye, programs have to get larger and slower, but opera, I dont get it, they seem to move on add features, and still run on a win 98 box faster than IE does on win 98. [21:42] nullboy, according to secunia that is [21:42] it's awesome [21:42] Old_Fogie: heh, yeah. They sure know how to make a light fast browser that works on almost anything. [21:42] Old_Fogie, as long as musicovery doesnt work in opera, i will not use it :P [21:42] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [21:42] nachox: musicovery? [21:42] like openoffice, tehy say, "well more features added, so it has to take more resources". I say that's BS. MS office 97 has more feaures than OO, and it dont run like OO. [21:42] firebird619, google? :) [21:43] haha [21:43] browsers are always going to be one of the leaders in vulnerabilities simply because of how the internet operates [21:43] nachox: will do. :) [21:43] it's hilarious and i'm surprised that we don't see a constant flow of CVEs [21:43] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [21:43] nullboy, not a chance, look at java, that is more vulnerable ;) [21:43] nachox: Whoa, I found it, Thank you google. [21:43] hahaha [21:43] nullboy, agreed, it's the gateway to all the nasties for most people yup, so most hacks are there for sure. [21:43] nachox: so then we mix java with a web browsers and we get internet flying pig flu!!! [21:43] YES [21:44] lol,nullboy [21:44] if people didnt have intercourse with pigs, we'd have no flu scare. food for thought. [21:44] haha [21:44] that looks more like a fated Internet flying pig flu [21:45] pig-sex.. now that is way gnarlier than dolphin-sex [21:45] nullboy, and .net, yes :) [21:45] lol [21:45] must have been all that "lipstick on a pig" talk from the election cycle, got all them mexicans worked up or something, I dunno. [21:45] Old_Fogie : uhmm, i hope you're kidding [21:45] Nick change: ApOgEE-- -> ApOgEEk [21:46] nachox: That site doesn't even work in my ff, let alone opera. [21:46] ananke, of course, [21:46] firebird619, it does work in firefox, it's having minor glitches these days [21:46] making light of something bad, human way to overcome said 'bad' thing [21:46] Nick change: ApOgEEk -> ApOgEE-- [21:46] nachox: something must be wrong with my setup then or something. [21:47] firebird619, it's working here, i'm sure it's linux, i always said it sucked ;) [21:47] :) [21:48] nachox: on that entire site for me, nothing is clickable to do anything except at the bottom "Legal information" an "Press" [21:49] firebird619: i use noscript and it will cause that symptom. what about you? [21:49] nullboy: No, I don't use noscript. [21:50] It's that same way in opera as well. [21:50] nullboy, any phone call today? [21:50] ah [21:50] Old_Fogie: nope, tomorrow i go in [21:50] ok [21:50] that was the plan [21:50] 1 day grace [21:50] aha, I see [21:50] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) joined ##slackware. [21:50] "I'm going in. If I'm not back in 10 minutes.. just wait longer" :) [21:51] lol [21:51] she won't call, no way [21:51] usually not [21:51] nullboy: so, it's for sure, your goin in. :) [21:51] I "did it wrong" so now it's up to me [21:51] but that doesnt mean all is lost either tho. [21:52] i think that showing up there again will just freak her out. Oh well, lesson learned [21:52] but i will do it anyway, can't loose anything really [21:52] not really, she did say she had no BF. [21:52] It won't necessarily freak her out. [21:53] now, if you follow her home, then that will freak her out :) [21:53] for sure :D [21:53] lol [21:53] so thats' not a good idea. [21:53] well the main thing i learned was that i should have used the card...but only to write her number on and keep ;) [21:53] nullboy: will be slackin from behind bars. :) [21:53] right [21:54] here, you guys want something serious to worry about? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus [21:54] lmao [21:54] I'll pass,nullboy [21:54] rebellis (i=666@modemcable039.124-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [21:54] this one is just as pleasant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marburg_virus [21:54] nullboy: That could be nasty to get. [21:55] well you'd only get it once...and die [21:55] nullboy, want to work on something? [21:55] true [21:55] the thing about ebola is it kills the host so quickly that it can not spread too far [21:55] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@201.10.88.87) left ##slackware. [21:55] kitche (n=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [21:56] Motoko-chan: like what? [21:56] it's a fast one alright,Pig_Pen [21:56] Motoko-chan: you have advice for me or what? ;) [21:56] No. [21:56] I want help getting megasr to build under Slackware [21:57] Ferojasro (i=500@190.158.104.205) joined ##slackware. [21:59] damn, why is every lisp book so insistent that lisp is better than every other language. it doesn't just get on with teaching, it has to make sure you know that lisp is the best evar [21:59] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:59] take care,folks...good luck in all life's endeavors [21:59] they call that a political agenda nooper :) [21:59] nooper, because it's a culy. [21:59] cult [22:00] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat071.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:00] MLanden (n=mello@pool-141-152-170-19.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [22:00] but, it is the best cult evar! [22:00] Ferojasro (i=500@190.158.104.205) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [22:00] Motoko-chan: where can i get the tarball to give it a shot? [22:01] some of the stuff doesn't even make sense. this book insists, that you should never change the value of a variable. instead you should make a new variable with the new value. because having 3 variables is "cleaner" than having 1 [22:01] It's all closed source except for the kernel shim. [22:01] And the newest release doesn't have even that. [22:01] wow [22:01] sounds bad [22:02] Yeah. [22:02] is megaraid_sata not good? [22:02] It's like this weird pseudo-software RAID. [22:02] It's a special SAS card from LSI. [22:02] http://www.lsi.com/DistributionSystem/AssetDocument/support/downloads/megar [22:02] aid/sas/software_drivers/linux/10.19_RH30.zip [22:02] pilipo (n=pilipo@122.55.51.200) joined ##slackware. [22:02] That's the URL to the last free shim-included release. [22:02] I might bug LSI about a new one for their 11 series. [22:02] Action: Motoko-chan is looking at the Debian patches now [22:03] nooper, easy, lisp programmers just want you to know you're inferior because you cant program in list and have to use those "other" stuff :P [22:03] heh [22:05] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:05] mmlj4 (n=jkelly@ip70-171-94-246.no.no.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:05] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [22:07] kitche (n=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:07] kitche (n=dragon@sourcemage/guru/kitche) joined ##slackware. [22:09] Gatto (n=Romeo~@host125-17-dynamic.45-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: [22:10] pattwo (n=sysadmin@206.75.107.60) joined ##slackware. [22:11] And the debian package isn't actually patching anything [22:11] Fun [22:11] mogunus (n=user@173.9.7.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:12] Motoko-chan, and you're surprised why? newsflash, debian packagers suck [22:12] :P [22:12] tecky: jes [22:12] tecky: Playing my Druid [22:12] Well, I'm sure it built cleanly back when it was done. [22:12] and with that rant i'm off to sleep :) [22:12] 2.6.19+ messed up the sources. [22:13] good night nachox [22:13] oh, hey and bye straterra, long time no see [22:13] Heck, if they could release the shim for SLES11, then it might compile cleanly (2.6.27.19 in that) [22:13] firebird619, good lick with musicovery [22:13] *luck [22:13] haha, thanks. I'll figure out why it won't work. [22:13] nachox: lol..howdy/later [22:14] nachox: one thing before you go, k? [22:14] straterra, ? [22:14] This is the card, btw [22:14] http://www.lsi.com/storage_home/products_home/internal_raid/megaraid_sas/megaraid_sas_8208elp/index.html?remote=1&locale=EN [22:14] you're annoyed because of the topic? :P [22:14] nachox: http://tinyurl.com/cdomby [22:15] jumperboy (n=jorey@gl206.websiteproject.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:15] straterra, that's nasty, why would you paste something like that here? [22:16] Stratrolled \O/ [22:16] Tis a joke o.O [22:16] hehe [22:16] i only hope that is not you [22:16] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:16] lmao [22:16] nachox: indeed it is [22:16] i mean, those are small for you, might want the next available size [22:17] with some rum and the gf's bra [22:17] hmm, are you sure you dont need professional help? [22:18] straterra: i hates you! [22:18] >.> [22:18] /slap :P [22:18] i think im gonna finally upgrade from 12.0 to 12.2 on my laptop [22:18] im sure [22:18] whats you doing? [22:18] but the stratrollage continues [22:18] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:18] I'm leveling my night elf druid [22:18] om g [22:18] dont you dare say your playing wow [22:18] ugh [22:18] maybe [22:18] /disown [22:19] straterra: hmm people still play wow? well on public servers or are you on a private one? [22:19] paid server [22:19] and..tons of people [22:19] weild banana [22:19] well, now i really i'm off to bed, i'd say to sleep but that image will hunt me for the rest of my life [22:19] kitche, are you not aware of the sheer popularity of WoW? [22:20] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-173.dial.telus.net) left irc: "must leave. damn parents. talk to you all later." [22:20] if you're going to use a bra at least shave youre chest :P [22:20] ccfreak2k: umm no just thought a lot of people moved over to private servers [22:20] did you play everquest before that? [22:20] straterra: what server? [22:20] tecky: Whisperwind..and some other [22:20] Private servers are ok, depending on which one you're on, but they pale in comparison to Blizzard's cluster of a hundred or so official servers. [22:21] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.31.200) left irc: "Leaving" [22:21] mmm [22:21] i was on ShadowSong [22:21] and Black Dragonflight + Dragonmaw [22:21] Action: Motoko-chan cries [22:21] If you've played on either, you'd know that private servers don't have all the features of official ones, though the more popular private servers make this up with their own unique features. [22:21] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-182-233-130.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:22] I just noticed I have this cluster of dead pixels on my laptop monitor. [22:22] Or not... [22:22] Motoko-chan: that was me, dude... sorry [22:22] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@201.10.88.87) joined ##slackware. [22:22] Ah, it's the freaking site. [22:22] Buggy [22:22] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@201.10.88.87) left ##slackware. [22:23] Action: Motoko-chan feels a bit better now [22:23] mmm right [22:23] so straterra.. [22:23] I decided i'm going to remove Microsoft products from my life.... completely [22:24] sooo with that, i'm selling all my old(er) workstations and going to buy a new dell box with ubuntu for the "girl" (fiancee) and formyself, i'm going to try to find something thats decent [22:24] someone's going to buy old hardware? [22:24] tecky: I've been clean for several years [22:26] Interesting.. [22:26] I just took Linux off of my work machine :P [22:26] straterra: thats it, no more <3's for you [22:26] tecky: I got a used intel core duo at christmas, runs slackware 12.2 very well, you don't need to break the bank to run slack [22:27] :/ [22:27] tecky: it ran horribly [22:28] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [22:29] you can get a very decent workstation for very cheap. i bout a core2duo, almost a year ago now, for $270 [22:29] go check out the refurbs at dell's site, that's a good place to find such deals [22:30] ananke: yeah I paid close to $300 for my unit, it is a dell [22:30] and those refurbs come with a warranty [22:31] with a 1 year ? [22:31] or 30 days? [22:31] zacharym (i=zmisc@adsl-69-209-115-18.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] tecky : 1 year [22:32] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [22:33] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [22:33] hmmm... thinking about joining the Air Force [22:34] hmm, right now cheapest inspiron 530s are at $359, 4GBram/500GB drive [22:34] tr0j4n (n=enigma@222.172.221.99) joined ##slackware. [22:34] nullboy: hello [22:34] hrmph [22:35] umislack (n=umislack@58.64.90.43) joined ##slackware. [22:35] ananke: i blame straterra for my questioning :) [22:35] straterra: heard from Dominian l8ly? [22:35] nullboy: i'm build iw slackbuild and have some compiling problems [22:35] rworkman: hello [22:36] SpyKee (n=spiki@85.222.135.2) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:36] Makefile:33: *** Cannot find development files for any supported version of libnl. Stop. [22:36] any ideas? [22:36] tecky, this is my cheap unit, it works well: uname -a [22:36] Linux slackbox 2.6.29.1-smp #1 SMP Mon Apr 20 18:39:55 PDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [22:36] hrmph [22:37] tr0j4n: You probably need this: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/network/libnl/ [22:37] erbi (n=erbi@unaffiliated/erbi) joined ##slackware. [22:37] hmph [22:37] Linux Intrepid 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux [22:37] :x [22:38] pi31415 (n=chatzill@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:41] firebird619: the download link seems to be dead [22:41] could someone upload libnl? [22:42] tr0j4n: Hmm, indeed it does, you could wait a little and see if it works or possibly find the source on google, just be careful where you download from. [22:43] firebird619: ok, thanks :) [22:43] yw [22:44] ... [22:45] tr0j4n: the iw SBo readme says iw requires libnl. [22:45] nullboy: my bad :P [22:46] damn encrypted README's [22:47] Hey BP{k}. How's it going? [22:47] tr0j4n: you can get the libnl sources from a slackware current mirror in sources/l/libnl/ [22:47] that link has been dead for a while now [22:47] tr0j4n: you just didn't read the README, or you just missed libnl? :P [22:48] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-182-233-130.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:48] he's got all the info he needs now it's all good [22:48] :D [22:48] firebird619: not too bad :) [22:48] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-182-233-130.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [22:48] hmm so hard to find howard the duck anymore oh well :) [22:48] http://slackware.osuosl.org/slackware-current/source/l/libnl/libnl-1.1.tar.bz2 [22:49] and yes, you will need to modify the build script or repackage the sources.... [22:50] Akuma (n=Akuma@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. 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[23:22] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.170.116.194) left irc: "Leaving" [23:23] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:24] briareus (n=briareus@unaffiliated/briareus) left irc: Client Quit [23:26] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:28] kevin01123 (n=kevin@24-182-233-130.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:30] mew [23:31] http://sethdot.org/~skvidal/misc/sysadmin-aphorisms.txt [23:31] here kitty, kitty [23:32] note the first Linux specific one [23:32] "If you're installing a binary and it's not installed using the system packaging mechanism, then you are doing something wrong. " [23:35] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:39] 3. Do not make many, tiny partitions, make a smaller number of larger partitions, instead. [23:39] take that, OpenBSD! [23:39] Hermaniette (n=Hermann@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [23:40] witz (n=witz@unaffiliated/witz) joined ##slackware. [23:40] 18. If the host firewalling allows access to more ports than ABSOLUTELY necessary; then the host is not production ready. [23:41] I disagree with #18 [23:41] nullboy those sysadmin deep thoughts are awesome! [23:41] 14. Simplicity is its own reward [23:41] A production ready server should not need a firewall. [23:41] i disagree with that [23:41] completely [23:42] A service should either be available, or not running at all. [23:42] what about filtering? [23:42] If it is not running, then a firewall is pointless. [23:42] that's the black and white point of view but that is not always the case [23:44] I remember a teacher telling us to change the port number on our SQL listener, for security. [23:44] that's not even the same topic [23:45] it is related [23:45] I remember someone advising to firewall SSH by remote IP address, for security. [23:46] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Connection timed out [23:47] well, there is still some merit to that pi31415 [23:47] paissad (n=paissad@184.56.76-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [23:47] Old_Fogie: I can think of examples where it might have helped Debian users in the past. [23:49] there are a few different reasons for running a firewall on production servers that are valid. one reason is that if a server is compromised with malware that opens a port the firewall can be set to only allow the required services which can provide a temporary stop gap in some cases and since firewalls are not only for in bound connections it can be useful to prevent outbound connections should a server become compromised through accessible vec [23:49] security sure is a holistic approach. problem with all them layers, wrappers, filters is - 1. you get away from simplicity, 2. one thing changes it all goes to hell 3. you better document it 4. more stuff to check verify. alot of work for sure. [23:49] superGear (i=supergea@97-118-34-163.hlrn.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:49] Old_Fogie: now you're talking! [23:49] preventing outbound connections can prevent a whole slew of propagation attempts [23:51] but I think a firewall on a box is a necessity, if not for anything, just to stop , literally the script-kiddies, the ones that think they're hot stuff cuz they got a copy of nmap for windows, and 'wanna see' [23:51] admins should really fear metasploit for that very reason [23:51] you know the one's, "I'm under 18, so I can do stupid stuff, they wont put me in jail, I'm under age" types of kids, [23:52] metasploit is a great tool but it doubles as a great weapon too [23:52] undetectable reverse shells...PH33R [23:52] Old_Fogie: they have not yet designed a firewall that works against that type of person. [23:53] yup. you put a lock on your front door, to stop the 'casual people' from walking by your house, and taking a peek insides, or using your toilet. but you certainly dont weld the doors and windows shut every day when you leave the house. [23:53] i was playing with some of metasploit's options and it's quite easy to whip up a reverse shell binary that won't show up in AV scans [23:54] pi31415, yeah, some kind of 'deny-hosts' script for all apps/services would be nice. [23:54] You could just move the handle to the center of the door and see if it confuses them. [23:55] back to the changing of port numbers for services though, that's hardly a security measure. port fingerprinting negates that poor attempt at security through obscurity [23:55] it might work to stop some dumb worms but really good one would be able to enumerate those ports [23:55] calling it a day.....night all:) [23:55] john_dee (n=id@pppoe18419.mv.ru) joined ##slackware. [23:56] for the most part, a server shouldnt even have any users on it (outside the normal root,and sys accounts). the log in as user and su - , just scares me. [23:56] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: [23:56] i'm torn on that one tho. [23:56] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "Rebooting..." [23:56] reverse shells are so trivial to do, I do not see how you could hope to stop them [23:56] ideal world, you walk up to it, login as root. no user accounts, no remote access. [23:56] They advertise them on TV. [23:56] gotomypc.com, etc. [23:59] mercfate (n=fate@201-75-6-2-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br) joined ##slackware. [23:59] old_fogie: why is sudo any worse than plain root? [23:59] hello [23:59] hi mercfate [23:59] how i install painel plugins on xfce? [23:59] new pligins* [23:59] new plugins* [00:00] --- Wed Apr 29 2009