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[00:48] antler: Somewhat. [00:48] citizen42alpha (n=kamdf@C-59-100-78-136.bri.connect.net.au) joined ##slackware. [00:49] Chrysalis (n=UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:50] Action: edman007 puts NaCl in water and hits him with a taser [00:51] Action: NaCl is now know as NaCl|dead [00:51] *known [00:52] NaCl, nope, you are now known as NaOH, H2, and Cl2 [00:52] follow physics! [00:53] Action: antler sandpapers edman007's skin and pours NaCl all over it [00:53] Action: edman007 shoots antler with a shotgun full of nacl [00:54] Action: antler saves some of the shells for his soup. yum. [00:54] NaCl:see,your quite popular...eveyone likes to play with you..:D [00:54] edman007: wouldn't that be chemistry, not physics? [00:54] aceofspades19 has a point [00:54] s/your/you're [00:54] hahah [00:55] edman007 thinks that chemistry reduces to physics [00:55] Action: NaCl is often used as a seasoning on various soups, wheat, and potato products [00:56] ...and on roads during canadian winters [00:56] and tequila...:D [00:56] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:56] Xires (n=Xires@71-11-230-70.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:56] Action: NaCl has millions of uses. [00:57] aceofspades19, i would consider chemistry to be a branch of physics [00:57] http://xkcd.com/435/ [00:57] which is a banch of mathematics :p [00:58] yay for xkcd [01:00] bsdx (n=bsd@210.211.128.131) joined ##slackware. [01:00] i dont get the latest xkcd at all [01:00] ugh math... [01:00] XpliCT (n=rumenovs@77.29.184.137) joined ##slackware. [01:01] antler: maths are your friends! [01:01] anything > math [01:02] math > math? how could that be? [01:02] That is, unless math != math [01:02] /[^math]anything/ > math [01:03] since i don't know what that expression means, i'll just nod :P [01:03] bsdx (n=bsd@210.211.128.131) left irc: Client Quit [01:03] math would be more fun with regex [01:03] Depends on what type of math you're talking about. [01:03] antler: :) [01:03] http://xkcd.com/547/ [01:03] Action: edman007 applies regex to an integral [01:04] Action: NaCl watches edman007 in horror [01:04] Action: edman007 integrates NaCl [01:04] godling (n=harry@unaffiliated/godling) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:05] with what? [01:05] antler: let me rephrase that... /[^math].*/ > math [01:05] frullet_: that still doesn't work. " math" > math [01:06] how is that read? [01:06] Anything that doesn't start with math is greater than math [01:06] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.216.212.3) joined ##slackware. [01:06] Action: edman007 gives frullet_ an F at regex [01:06] hahaha [01:06] ah [01:07] Action: NaCl gives edman007 an F at Integrals [01:08] x, y (x != y, and y = math, then x > y) [01:08] simple. [01:08] souphead (n=souphead@222.127.36.133) joined ##slackware. [01:09] Action: edman007 hits NaCl with his statistics and probability book [01:09] yay a book fight [01:09] my new car has arrived :> [01:09] Action: NaCl blocks with his own probability book [01:09] Action: edman007 hates this book... [01:10] Action: NaCl does too [01:10] edman007: maybe the book hates you? [01:10] what is the probability that edman007 is hated by the eunichs? [01:10] All of the eunichs or some of them? [01:10] (all) [01:12] Action: edman007 gets a problem from the book to kill people with [01:13] Action: NaCl averts his eyes [01:15] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:17] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [01:17] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [01:18] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "...The man who walks alone is likely to find himself in places no one has ever been. ~Alan Ashley-Pitt" [01:18] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [01:18] brad pitt's brother said that? [01:18] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:19] said what,antler? [01:19] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) joined ##slackware. [01:20] NaCl's quit message... [01:20] Action: NaCl likes that quote [01:20] ahh [01:21] It is a good quote [01:21] fade-in (n=fadein@c-98-202-166-220.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [01:22] meh too ambiguous [01:24] i prefer, "space: the final frontier. these are the voyages of the starship enterprise." [01:24] KKKKKKKAAAAAAAHHHHHHHNNNNNNN!!....sorry for shouting..:D [01:25] Do or do not......there is no try [01:25] There are... FOUR LIGHTS! [01:25] hitest: wrong universe [01:25] lol [01:25] MLanden: hahaha klassic [01:26] :D....give it up for the Shat [01:27] i love the way he karate chops the aliens... :D [01:27] sopas (n=souphead@222.127.214.63) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:27] good reference,NaCl...for Picard [01:28] Action: NaCl has watched _way_ too much Star Trek [01:28] yeah, i think that was from preemptive strike, season 7 [01:28] Wrong season [01:28] And wrong episode. :) [01:29] wasn't it 7? when he's caught by the cards? [01:29] That episode was a twofer [01:30] Chain of Command. Season 6 [01:30] oh yah. definitely not 'preempt strike' that one was w/ row laren [01:30] ok [01:31] *ro [01:31] jesus [01:31] lol [01:31] NaCl, good idea, i got a lot of star trek recorded :) [01:31] I got DVDs. [01:31] I like the trek episodes with 7 of 9........voyager:) babes FTW [01:33] NaCl: the dvds are widescreen? was wide ever released? [01:33] remember an episode of Dilbert where his 7 of 9 alarm clock screamed at him.."Do not touch me!!"...LOL [01:33] tronicggg (n=tronic@p5B0BD014.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:33] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:33] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [01:33] Action: antler wouldn't mind picking up the Enterprise box set [01:34] yeah [01:34] Enterprise was only good because of Linda Park [01:34] antler: no, but DVDs last a bit longer than tapes [01:35] heard there gonna show some new episodes for Red Dwarf..sometime in April [01:35] turtletits (n=root@24.115.166.97.res-cmts.flt.ptd.net) joined ##slackware. [01:35] hi [01:35] No comment? [01:35] Hello tt. [01:35] http://www.devlin.co.za/web/Portals/0/Blog/Humus/Linux.jpg [01:35] Serious.....new episodes [01:36] tt, that's plain old. [01:36] serious [01:36] NaCl: oh [01:36] http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/photos/linux.jpg [01:36] sorry. damn middle button sucks. [01:36] hard to say when they will show here in the states [01:36] Old. [01:36] err middle click [01:36] MLanden: cool [01:36] As they say in other channels: togtfo [01:38] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:40] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [01:40] it's fluxnuk3r, the guy with the tiny hardware :P [01:41] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3041/3022290535_19ce9bd73e_o.png [01:44] lol [01:45] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [01:46] That doesn't look like Linux. [01:46] Tidus_ (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) joined ##slackware. [01:47] NaCl: in which episode of what season was picard referred to as "the picard" by a proto-vulcan? [01:47] It looks like someone put a WXP screen (using Luna at that) on an IBM XT. [01:47] Fail. [01:49] http://www.cristiv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/linux_sex.jpg [01:52] turtletits: hahaha [01:52] sopas (n=souphead@222.127.33.239) joined ##slackware. [01:53] arny` (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [01:53] hi all [01:53] Morning,arny` [01:54] on that middle link, sad thing is the top is likely a guy and the bottom is likely a girl :| [01:54] refering to --> 01:41 < turtletits> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3041/3022290535_19ce9bd73e_o.png [01:58] Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:58] 2wire is a US company right? [01:59] http://www.2wire.com/index.php?p=421 ? [01:59] afaik [01:59] the expressions on the penguins faces kills me hahah [02:00] hang [02:00] o [02:01] ver [02:01] mornin all [02:01] Mornin',dive [02:01] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [02:02] bsdx (n=bsd@210.211.128.131) joined ##slackware. [02:03] bsdx (n=bsd@210.211.128.131) left irc: Client Quit [02:04] bsdx (n=bsd@210.211.128.131) joined ##slackware. [02:05] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:05] mohaa (n=moha@85-170-145-6.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [02:06] souphead (n=souphead@222.127.36.133) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:07] i spent 4 hours trying to get a 2wire adsl + router combo to work [02:07] replaced it with a netcomm, took 5 minutes. [02:08] hence the question if 2wire is a US company [02:08] because i want to know if anyone here will bomb them for me :P [02:08] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:09] not my side of the country...:P [02:11] What all went wrong,spook? [02:11] it doesnt easily let you bridge the modem out. [02:11] OUCH [02:11] you have to go to the hidden manufacturer configuration page [02:11] even then its an uphill battle [02:11] the settings dont apply until you hard reset the modem. [02:12] wat?!?..:-O [02:12] it stopped working (couldnt connect to the webpage configurator) [02:12] that's strange [02:12] man,that sux [02:12] and the factory reset button stopped working around the 3.5 hour mark [02:12] you cant backup or restore configurations. [02:12] oops [02:13] man,that double sux [02:13] and right now, it is effectively bricked. [02:13] the netcomm on the otherhand, has a nifty little wizard that askes you what you want to do, so you only have to change 1 setting instead of the 50 in the 2wire [02:14] good to hear [02:15] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [02:15] oh and the 2wire, takes about 5 minutes to post, post some more, read its firmware, post again. turn off the wireless (it starts with it on), post again. bring up the ethernet ports, post again. start line syncing. wait for the line to sync. post again. bring up the webserver (only way to configure it). [02:16] was it supplied by your isp? [02:16] it's....got...the....wireless..on..by..default?!? [02:16] yes as part of the 'business' dsl my client signed up for. [02:16] MLanden: the light is on, and i see the ssid on my eeepc, yes. [02:17] damn...unsecured? [02:17] wpa2 [02:17] ok [02:17] but what happens if you haven't put in wpa settings yet? [02:17] and turn it on [02:18] the default config uses wpa2, using the key printed next to the serial number [02:18] ah [02:18] the key is also the way to reset the configuration password on it. [02:18] well make a nice doorstop I guess [02:18] i was going to explode it [02:19] but you've got the general idea [02:19] rip 'em up,spook..:D [02:19] i'm going to suggest they return it to the isp for a refund or something [02:20] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:21] superGear (i=1000@c-71-229-158-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:23] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. 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[02:42] fluxnuk3r (n=fluxnuk3@173-24-18-27.client.mchsi.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [02:43] Chrysalis (n=UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) joined ##slackware. [02:45] carl sagan is freaking me out [02:46] sopas (n=souphead@222.127.33.239) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:46] sopas (n=souphead@222.127.37.216) joined ##slackware. [02:48] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:49] Why's that,nullboy? [02:50] he's talking about the bootstrapping of the universe, that's freaking why! [02:51] whoah [02:52] ah, freshers are fun. [02:52] Akuma (n=dfsdf@modemcable161.131-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:52] "is xxx server running? can you check by sshing to it?" [02:53] "yes its running" "well you better go catch it" [02:53] souphead (n=souphead@222.127.216.202) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:54] Mess[i]ah (n=emess@203.161.103.250.static.amnet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:54] zomg i can click and drag to make rectangle shapes on the desktop w/ the new xfce :D [02:55] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:55] cool [02:55] ummm [02:56] antler,XFCE 4.6? [02:56] yah [02:56] cool [02:56] yeah but I can edit the menu in the old xfce [02:58] bah going back to sleep [02:58] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: "Leaving" [02:58] rootzig (n=Holocaus@201-75-231-233-am.cpe.vivax.com.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:00] night,dive [03:06] lol watching boxing, the crowd loves one boxer, the boxer punches the other guy in the nuts and they crowd goes crazy cheering and whistling [03:07] Who's fighting,Soul_keeper? [03:08] some polish guy against a detroit guy [03:08] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:08] cool [03:08] heh people still watch boxing? :P [03:09] more exciting than galactica lately [03:09] nothing better to do while waiting for 300GB to backup [03:11] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-179-64.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:11] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:12] antler (n=antler@S010600226b809448.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [03:12] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:13] remember EPSN classic showing some of Ali BITD recently ...good one was when he was up against Foreman [03:14] s/EPSN/ESPN [03:14] ali boom ba yay! (poor foreman -- buy my new grill!) [03:15] lost before he even fought that one [03:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_jKXFSgZAQ&feature=related [03:16] antler,that was the rumble in the jungle right? [03:16] time to jet [03:17] W|GG-Laptop (n=ron@about/slackware/wigglit) left irc: "**poof**" [03:17] hmmm the polish nut puncher won [03:17] MLanden: yeah, i think it was in zaire [03:18] heh must be hard to recover from a nut punch... 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[04:34] spook: then put a bigger/better picture.. thats just plain marketing [04:34] *<:0D [04:37] sorry 'bout that,spook [04:37] aperturefever: what? [04:37] aperturefever: its free to enter. [04:37] this is a loss for the club. [04:40] oh [04:41] then remove that pic! and print it to toilet paper! [04:47] so that robocode is like that logo turtle? [04:49] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:49] tank-man: no, look at the screen shot, they are tanks! [04:49] Old_Fogie (n=Old_Fogi@cpe-69-204-70-243.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "leaving" [04:49] a turtle is like a tank :) [04:49] Action: spook just discovered ( echo open hostname; sleep 1; echo stuff ) | telnet [04:56] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-143-231-251.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [04:58] Nick change: blackhat -> ryht|NiMD [05:00] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. 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[07:26] http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/ele/1053923512.html some nerd on craigslist wants to mod a xbox 360 to run Linux, i would help but i have never owned an xbox so i havent a clue [07:27] []cipher (n=cipher@41.252.44.208) joined ##slackware. [07:27] Dadsy (n=Dad`@ip-109.net-89-3-223.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Connection timed out [07:27] normal xbox you can do that [07:27] 360, i dont think its been done [07:28] alicephilippa (i=alice@78-105-168-173.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:28] cipher (n=cipher@41.252.2.223) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:30] hmm, ok, i emailed him the results of a quick google search [07:31] seems a few people have Linux on a 360 [07:31] oh cool [07:31] it might take a hardware hack to get it [07:32] yeah without a doubt [07:32] 360 cant run unsigned code [07:32] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.134.185) left irc: "leaving" [07:33] http://www.free60.org/wiki/Main_Page [07:33] yeah need hardware [07:34] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [07:34] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:34] Nick change: []cipher -> [cipher] [07:34] siiiifff (n=dd@host86-152-32-181.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [07:34] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:34] Slown (n=Slown@41.221.19.216) joined ##slackware. [07:34] i would buy a PS3 or wii before i would buy a 360 [07:35] anyone burn iso's with mkisofs ? [07:35] hello [07:35] MLanden (n=mello@pool-207-68-51-5.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [07:36] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [07:36] tribeca (n=naitso@host31-243-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [07:36] Good morning(or evening or afternoon perhaps),ladies and gentlemen [07:37] MLanden, how long did you slept ? [07:37] mkisofs -dvd-compact -Z /dev/hdc=file.iso [07:37] well i finally got wifi working [07:37] but i get an erro [07:37] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [07:37] no idea how [07:37] Not tired yet,Camarade_Tux [07:37] i just did a bunch of stuff, then did a bunch of other stuff, then tried everything again a few times [07:37] and now it works [07:37] what driver dionysian [07:38] b43 [07:38] MLanden, I thought you had left to sleep about two hours ago ;) [07:38] bcm43xx ? [07:38] b43 [07:38] oh i havent used that one [07:38] Meh! [07:38] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:38] i blame ubuntu [07:39] is the driver in the kernel ? [07:39] bcm43 ? [07:39] driver for linux exists [07:39] yeah [07:39] b43 [07:40] yes b43 is in the kernel [07:40] broadcom ? [07:40] slown you use mkisofs ? [07:40] what ? [07:40] i want to burn a iso to a dvd [07:40] without gui [07:41] cdrecord? [07:41] http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ [07:41] read this [07:41] dont think does dvd's dionysian [07:42] why wouldn't it? [07:42] will it [07:42] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-193501.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:42] Nick change: aperturefever` -> aperturefever [07:43] i think it does [07:43] lmao2k (n=nothere@82.34.242.225) left irc: [07:43] ill give that ago [07:44] ok, now to find alienBOB's script again [07:44] now that i've got slackware installed [07:45] what script is that [07:47] So,how are you doin',Camarade_Tux? [07:48] hungry and thirsty ;) [07:48] and you ? :) [07:48] Not too bad [07:48] Ether_Man (n=polx@h218n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:49] Slown (n=Slown@41.221.19.216) left irc: "Quitte" [07:50] for some reason kde is only telling me i can do 1024x768 [07:50] I need to visit someone so I can update his windows xp cd and add support for his sata drive =/ [07:51] dionysian, where do you see that ? [07:52] right click desktop -> configure desktop -> display [07:52] SP1 to SP2 or SP2 to SP3,Camarade_Tux? [07:52] SP3 and I'll use driverpacks.net [07:52] good luck [07:52] dionysian, is your current resolution higher ? [07:53] it's 1024x768 [07:53] i want 1920x1200 [07:53] dionysian:are the configurations in xorg.conf? [07:54] sopas (n=souphead@222.127.212.148) left irc: "Leaving" [07:54] oh i don't know [07:54] i haven't had to manually configure x since before xorg existed [07:54] i guess i'll have to muck around with it [07:55] dionysian:What's the video device? [07:55] some onboard thing [07:57] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) joined ##slackware. [07:59] let me go break X [07:59] brb [07:59] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:59] garme (n=garme@189.17.54.86) joined ##slackware. [07:59] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:59] dionysian: the default xorg driver in Slackware is VESA - that will probably be the reason you can't go beyond the resolution you configured for your console [07:59] Shoo he left [08:00] Curious,does KDE 4x use krandr ? [08:00] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [08:00] It has krandr yes [08:02] thanks,alienBOB...just tried it once before deciding to use XFCE4 [08:02] http://pastebin.com/m6a86e637 [08:03] http://pastebin.com/m43e1fb72 [08:04] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [08:05] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [08:05] siiiifff (n=dd@host86-152-32-181.range86-152.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:06] ok apparently the quick and ugly fix i tried didn't work [08:06] oh well, on to more important things [08:06] will alienBOB's ms-sys slackbuild for 12.1 work fine with 12.2? [08:09] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:09] dionysian: the default xorg driver in Slackware is VESA - that will probably be the reason you can't go beyond the resolution you configured for your console [08:09] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [08:10] oh [08:10] that was the max it gave me for my console, too [08:10] :( [08:10] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4394142.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:13] Ether_Man (n=polx@h229n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [08:14] dionysian:Do you know what video chipset is on you mobo? [08:14] Nick change: Ether_Man -> Eternia [08:14] i think it's intel [08:14] i *think* [08:16] t0f (n=foo@dialup-4.238.221.118.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net) left irc: "I'm Gone" [08:18] dionysian: What shows up in dmesg? [08:20] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-67-174-200-145.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [08:21] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:21] lns40 (n=snL20@149-203-34.oke1-bras9.adsl.tele2.no) joined ##slackware. [08:22] MLanden, i'm not exactly sure what i'm looking for [08:23] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:25] agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: Intel 945GM Chipset [08:26] l4m4_m4n (n=l4m4_m4n@83.218.195.61) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:28] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [08:28] OK [08:28] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:28] faffi_ (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [08:30] when does alienBOB usually show up? [08:30] dionysian: this should help you out http://www.slackbook.org/html/x-window-system.html [08:32] yeah [08:33] i was trying to avoid that [08:33] The manual is your friend ;) [08:33] Trying to avoid the manual? *why* [08:33] i tried just fudging the mode line of the config [08:33] It makes sense to me, I mean, the manual is *boring* [08:34] trying to avoid the manual because this system is very temporary [08:34] its not *that* bad [08:34] dionysian, your gfx only work with vesa driver ? [08:34] should be fine with i810 [08:35] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [08:35] sorry guys, i didn't mean to give the wrong impression. i'm not actually trying to get X set up right now [08:35] dionysian, X -configure can work for setting up [08:35] it's all ok,dionysian [08:36] then , if u dont have desired resolution , u can try modelines [08:38] to get a bigger resolution you need to increase the hsync frequency maximum [08:39] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) joined ##slackware. [08:39] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4385930.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [08:39] dionysian: run xorgsetup and try if that configures your X.Org to use something better than VESA [08:40] VESA is good, because it will almost always give you a working X, but it is conservative. Your hardware may have it's own X.Org driver [08:40] i think it does [08:40] i810 [08:41] Slackware 12.2 x.org usually does not need manual modelines in xorg.conf ; x.org is smart enough [08:41] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:41] alienBOB, i'm just in a temporary slack install [08:41] i am going to wipe the drive and reinstall now [08:42] i put the dvd contents on a new partition and did a standard usb install [08:42] just finished using your usbinstall script [08:42] looks like it worked nicely [08:44] Good. Why did it not work for you before dionysian? [08:44] i was using mint [08:44] AH yes [08:44] Shows how powerful Slackware is ;-) [08:44] you remember now :) [08:45] garme (n=garme@189.17.54.86) left irc: "Leaving" [08:45] yeah. i forgot how FAST slackware was [08:46] hmm is there a slackware package for b43-fwcutter? [08:46] good huh [08:47] check slackbuilds.org [08:47] It think there is a SlackBuild script there yes [08:49] so these are different from slackware packages, right? [08:49] A SlackBuild script _creates_ a Slackware package [08:49] slackbuild helps build slackware package [08:50] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.18.47) joined ##slackware. [08:57] hiddenman_ (n=hiddenma@213.179.252.138) joined ##slackware. [08:58] ok, so i think i've got everything i need to get my wireless up, in a folder on the usb installer [08:58] hi guys. have a little question (unfortunately, i'm not familiar with Slackware): i have a package from Slackware 10 and need to rebuild it for the 12.2. where can i get the sources and what is the algorithm? may be some docs or whatever [08:59] hiddenman, just get the latest sources if there is no slackbuild for it at slackbuilds.org [08:59] hrad (n=hrad___@84.19.44.65) joined ##slackware. [08:59] do slackbuilds usually download and extract sources? [09:00] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) joined ##slackware. [09:00] if that feature was written in the script, but usually no, you have to do that manually [09:00] a package from 10 MIGHT work in 12.2 [09:00] but most likely not [09:01] Pig_Pen: hmm. thank you, let me check slackbuilds.org first. i have on old problem with libssl.so.4 (you might remeber i was asking it few days ago there) [09:01] spook: it works. but have strange issues, so i decided to rebuild (to exclude that reason) [09:01] spook, ok. is there a howto on using slackbuilds? [09:01] dionysian: yes, at slackbuilds.org [09:01] slackbook just says basically that they're scripts to build slack packages [09:02] http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ dionysian [09:02] ok thanks [09:02] Was not _that_ hard to find at the site [09:02] alienBOB: heh [09:03] seems like it's a difficult process :-/ [09:03] dionysian: the SlackBuilds at slackbuilds.org do not download the sources that you need. [09:03] No it is not [09:03] so guys what should i do? :-) [09:03] i was joking :) [09:03] hiddenman_: whats the largest hammer you own [09:04] dionysian: http://sbopkg.org/ is a tool that automates building of packages using slackbuilds.org repository [09:04] spook: lol. i'm serious :-) [09:04] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) joined ##slackware. [09:04] http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ this is the guide? [09:04] hiddenman_: so am i. [09:05] so i should extract the sources to the slackbuild directory? [09:05] Yes [09:05] No [09:05] Just place the tarball in the script's directory [09:05] The script does the rest [09:05] The .info file has a link to the source [09:05] right [09:05] ok [09:06] thanks for the help! [09:06] wish me luck [09:06] THis command will do the download for you: ". *.info && wget $DOWNLOAD" - leave off the "" but beware of the dot, it needs to be there! [09:06] hey, I've got an issue with my wifi, cause sometimes link becomes ready after dhcpcd is run > fail ...and sometimes the other way around > success [09:06] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:06] good luck,dionysian [09:07] thanks :) [09:07] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:08] and another issue is, that it the init scripts can't be set channel and freq at the same time....but my router needs my NIC to have set exact channel and exact frequency [09:09] alienBOB, i always found the . a confusing syntax, perhaps "source" would be better [09:11] rc.inet1 & rc.wireless are evidently not the better part of slackware [09:12] hrad (n=hrad___@84.19.44.65) left irc: "Leaving" [09:12] with iwconfig u can set channel and frequency [09:14] arny` (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [09:14] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) left irc: "tornado warning" [09:15] imexius (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [09:15] hrad ... o he already left. When he returns, tell him that instead of always complaining he can send a patch or feature request [09:16] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:16] sidmario (n=m@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [09:16] bsdx (n=bsd@61.17.165.191) joined ##slackware. [09:17] Eternia (n=polx@h229n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Connection timed out [09:20] Ether_Man (n=polx@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [09:21] how do i find the sources the package was built from? [09:22] http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-10.2/slackware/n/openssl-0.9.7g-i486-1.tgz that's a package [09:22] lol [09:22] indeed [09:23] go up some more dirs and you see a dir called source [09:23] change the slackware/n/ to source/n/ [09:23] MarteX (n=marciano@201.47.89.100) joined ##slackware. [09:23] heh. it's lol for you, guys. but a problem for me :( cause i have to rebuild that #$# libssl.so.4 :( [09:25] hiddenman_, u can go to openssl homepage , should have the source there [09:26] DeeeeP: yeah, i know. i just want to rebuild it using the same enviroment. nevermind, i've found http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-10.2/source/n/openssl/ thank you. i suppose i should play aroung openssl.Slackbuild :) [09:28] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [09:28] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:29] tribeca_ (n=naitso@host108-13-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:29] rapid (i=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:29] AndryZ (n=na@host153-181-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [09:30] take care,folks....good luck in all endeavors [09:31] MLanden (n=mello@pool-207-68-51-5.norf.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [09:31] allend (n=allend@121.214.170.155) joined ##slackware. [09:41] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-148-60.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [09:43] tribeca (n=naitso@host31-243-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:43] hmmm, i should totally steal roses from the neighbours garden [09:46] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:46] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [09:46] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [09:47] hi [09:47] gosh darnit [09:47] looks like I am going to have to revert back to gnome [09:47] i hate KDE :| [09:48] gosh darnit [09:48] looks like i am going to have to revert back to kde [09:48] install from alienBOB's usb went without a hitch, b43 firmware installed using slackbuilds (b43-fwcutter and b43-firmware) worked perfectly [09:48] i hate GNOME :| [09:49] Pig_Pen, name a decent theme for KDE that actually makes it look half tidy? I've spent an hour searching through kde-look.org they're all terrible :| [09:50] i use the classic theme including the classic icon set in the kdeartwork package [09:50] gnome sucks [09:50] end of story [09:50] ok [09:50] but all my buttons on the applications look really awful, they are not smooth [09:50] gnome > kde :) [09:51] finally i got pissed of at firefox dying and installed flashblock [09:51] hate is such a strong word [09:51] i would use xfce before i would use gnome [09:51] i'm bored. [09:51] tank-man-inbed: [ in bed ] [09:51] oh i know i'll code a drunk robot in robocode [09:52] OK, can you show me a pic of your desktop then ? [09:52] Bender :D [09:52] dusty: how about a pic of my desktop [ in bed ] ? [09:53] either one will do ;-] [09:53] http://imagebin.org/39589 my desktop [09:54] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl21-53.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [09:54] that wallpaper is a photo of a place named "Carhenge" it is a copy of stonehenge made with cars :D [09:54] that's a cool wallpaper, I just don't like the kde theme [09:55] suit yourself, different smokes for different folks [09:56] indeed [09:56] well it sure aint kde 4 hehe [09:56] just a stock kde [09:56] DralaFi (n=dralafi@host81-151-122-1.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [09:56] 3.5.10 [09:57] hiddenman_ (n=hiddenma@213.179.252.138) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:58] Ether_Man (n=polx@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [09:58] MarteX (n=marciano@201.47.89.100) left irc: "Ubuntu 8.10 comanda X-Chat" [09:58] looks like my xorg config went ok, too. i imagine the important part was just switching to the i810 driver. although, i also selected the maximum refresh rates that it listed. i'm not sure if that was a wise idea (there was a warning about causing damage to the hardware) [09:58] madbear, KDE4 is even worse [09:59] http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/trilliTheme?content=44828 [09:59] that's a nice theme ? [09:59] dusty: im giving it a shoot atm [09:59] MegafEee (n=WMaker@unaffiliated/megaf) left irc: "Leaving" [09:59] IceChant|AFK (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) left irc: "http://www.1st-vets.com" [09:59] this laptop is running fedora 10 kde 4 [10:00] im used to fluxbox [10:00] kde gives me a vista feeling [10:01] running fedora while in a slackware channel? your just awful! [10:01] hehe [10:01] gnubien (n=e@221.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:01] im installing it now on my upgraded desktop! [10:01] installing slack on a desktop? ok, ill let you off this time [10:02] lol [10:02] T_T [10:02] hehe [10:02] Pig_Pen, what's wrong with using slackware on a desktop ? [10:02] nothing [10:03] nothing, he should wipe fedora off that laptop and put slack on it too [10:03] Pig_Pen: i tried a year ago [10:03] yucky laptop hardware [10:03] sucks yeah [10:04] new kernel now i guess it would work [10:04] how can I find the installation path of mozilla? (trying to install flash player) I thought it was /usr/lib/mozilla but it rejects it ? [10:04] just put the plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins [10:04] dusty, i install in /usr/lib/firefox , and it works [10:04] DeeeeP, thanks that worked ;-] [10:04] dusty: not sure what you mean by "rejects it," but that's good [10:05] madbear, nothing wrong with a vista feeling. it's not MS so thats good [10:05] Ether_Man (n=polx@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:06] straterra (n=straterr@projectstfu.com) joined ##slackware. [10:06] DralaFi: yeah but i dont feel like im the boss [10:06] madbear, this is linux. you ARE the boss :) [10:06] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [10:06] hehe yeah i should be [10:06] I am the boss [10:06] hrm [10:07] you're all fired [10:07] lol [10:07] DeeeeP, It installed to /usr/li/firefox, i restart firefox and it still doens't play flash [10:07] nevrmind working ;-] [10:07] haha [10:07] ~/.mozilla/plugins [10:07] So i am trying to upload a slackbuild to SBo. I keep getting a invalid mime type error. http://pastebin.learnix.net/18 - me creating the tar.bz2. [10:07] Pig_Pen: both seems to work [10:08] your solution isnt system wide [10:08] ! [10:08] solution? thats correct or? [10:08] you do need to close the app and restart for it to take effect with seamonkey (not sure about firefox) [10:08] dusty, decide :D [10:08] sulotion ? [10:08] lol [10:08] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:09] It is working and I installed it as root which makes it system wide. [10:09] dusty: yeah you couldnt have installed int /usr with any other user [10:09] ;-] [10:10] agentc0re1: your paste shows nothing about uploading anything [10:10] agentc0re1, try tarring and bzipping in two steps to see if that helps [10:10] do you guys like gxine plugin ? [10:10] DeeeeP, no [10:10] DeeeeP, no, mplayerplugin ftw [10:10] some people, sheesh, this guy is trying to sell a nintendo wii (used item) on craigslist for the same price as a new one would cost [10:10] mplayerplugin works better for me [10:11] yeah , mplayerplugin should be part of slackware ,instead of crappy gxine [10:11] would you buy a used product from a classified ad for the same price as a brand new one would cost? [10:11] heck no [10:11] why not just use mplayer directly? [10:11] straterra: I know. Just wanted to show you that i in deed was creating a successful tar.bz2. [10:11] Pig_Pen, depends , if its rare [10:11] dive: Okay. [10:12] it isn't too hard to find a new wii [10:12] a nintendo wii is found in any dept. store all over [10:12] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [10:12] xroberx (n=chat@80.Red-88-10-95.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [10:12] hi [10:12] in that case , no ... anyway who's selling a used product and same brand new price ? [10:13] some dork on craigslist [10:13] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [10:13] no extras, no games, just the wii, probably has one game [10:14] i been watching craigslist closely for a week now in my spare time, i see some stuff over priced and i know it does not sell because they repost it about every other day [10:14] um [10:15] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:15] something broke [10:16] very strange... i don't know what it didn't like [10:16] konsole froze when i ctrl+alt+f2'd back to the console [10:17] nukedclx (n=nukedclx@avx34.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:17] dionysian, what about the others ? [10:17] when i hit alt+f7 to go back to kde, the screen was frozen and the mouse cursor was a skull and crossbones [10:17] i clicked once, and konsole went away [10:17] everything else seems to be ok [10:18] just very strange [10:18] dionysian, the skull and crossbones is from xkill [10:18] Carrier-Freq (n=root@217.194.139.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:18] you must have hit the ctrl-alt-esc combo accidently [10:18] yes, i may have [10:19] it kills whichever app is under the cursor [10:19] when you click [10:19] i have irssi running screened on tty1 [10:19] and i was flipping back to look at it [10:20] that must have been it. thanks for clearing that up [10:20] dive: Hrm. Well i got a tar.gz to work instead *shrug [10:20] so there's no slackbuild for kde4.2? [10:20] agentc0re1, strange but so long as it works [10:21] agentc0re1, anyway bzip isn't really needed for text files imo [10:21] tar.gz is good enough [10:21] dionysian: kde 4.2 is already included [10:21] it is not part of the main tree though [10:21] in -current, right? [10:22] yes but at this point -current and 12.2 don't have any major changes [10:22] ok [10:23] so the changelog mentions "Once again (for now), these packages are compatible with Slackware 12.2. Enjoy! :-)" [10:23] Ether_Man (n=polx@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:23] so how would i go about installing it? and will it overwrite kde3.5? [10:23] you must remove kde 3.5 first [10:23] there is a script that does it for you [10:23] sigh [10:24] Action: dive hands spook the eel canon [10:24] spook: why do you sigh ? [10:25] Action: spook loads the eel cannon with scotch soaked eels [10:25] mmm tasty [10:25] Lord_Khelben: i sigh at people wanting kde 4 [10:25] ah ok :) [10:25] Action: agentc0re1 quickly pee's in the eel canon [10:25] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.134.185) joined ##slackware. [10:25] :P [10:25] kde 4.2 is supposed to be good though [10:25] Action: spook fires the eel cannon at agentc0re1 [10:26] he asked for that [10:26] doh! [10:26] spook: well, i tried it before... didn't like it, so i went back to 3.5. but i hear that 4.2 is much more usable. [10:26] Action: spook loads the eel cannon with frozen eels [10:26] At least is was my own pee. [10:26] isnt X.0 supposed to be stable releases? [10:26] agentc0re1: does that make any difference ? :) [10:26] Action: panzer steals the eel cannon [10:27] Lord_Khelben: where would i find that script? [10:27] replaces with origami duck [10:27] kde 4.0 was for developers only [10:27] it was largely broken [10:27] spook: why not 3.9.x [10:27] Action: spook presses the self destruct for the eel cannon [10:27] dionysian: everything needed is included in the kde folder [10:27] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE7AD4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:27] madbear: because that would still be the 9 release [10:27] erm [10:27] 3.9 release [10:28] which doesnt exist [10:28] darn. Forgot to safe that button [10:28] hmm... [10:28] they should have renamed it [10:28] also, it was 4.0 because they wanted it to be. they told people no to use it :) [10:28] kde2 0.1 [10:28] Action: spook watches a new eel cannon nanotically build itself from the wreckage of the old one. [10:29] madbear: go ask in #kde [10:29] Action: spook loads the new eel cannon with frozen eel [10:29] madbear: honestly, does it REALLY affect you that they called it 4.0? [10:29] Action: spook fires the eel cannon at madbear [10:29] :( [10:29] Action: panzer in newly cloned body steals the new eel cannon safes self destruct and fires at spook [10:30] thrice`: spook , i thought some would join me, X.0 should be stables! :P. anyway i get it now, there was no 3.9 [10:30] so 4.0 was the choice [10:30] Action: spook watches the eel cannon fire air [10:30] madbear: who says X.0 is stable releases ? [10:30] madbear only [10:31] i guess yeah panzer :P [10:31] spook: how you know I did not reload without telling you [10:31] different projects have different versioning schemes [10:31] it was stable, just not meant for people to use yet (they even asked distros not to package it) [10:31] Lord_Khelben: do i need to download an iso of -current, then? [10:31] dionysian: which country do you live ? [10:31] but that is a big way of saying yea use it [10:31] usa [10:32] Action: spook presses the nanotic dissably button for the eel cannon [10:32] dissassembly [10:33] dionysian: wget -r ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/testing/packages/kde4/ [10:33] spelling is hard [10:33] dionysian: run the above command [10:33] it will download everything needed [10:33] spook, you make most of your words up anyway. [10:33] i picked a usa mirror randomly. choose another one if you want [10:33] Lord_Khelben, ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/testing/packages/kde4/kde/ is an empty directory [10:33] Action: panzer sends in enemy nanobots to kill spook's [10:34] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.184.39) joined ##slackware. [10:34] Lord_Khelben: thanks [10:34] jonsmith1982: no, i dont. they are all valid words in spookish english [10:34] DralaFi: yes you are right. from all the usa mirrors i chose a bad one [10:34] i should go and pick a lottery ticket [10:34] Lord_Khelben: sorry for the newbie questions... i have to get used to doing things the slack way again [10:35] Action: panzer hands jonsmith1982 the spookish english to american english or queens english translator [10:35] Action: spook releases self replicating nanobots to consume panzer's [10:35] ubuntu has turned my brain to mush [10:35] where can i set keyboard map under xfce ? i dont feel like running setxkmap everytime i log in [10:35] dionysian: wait a moment. this mirror wansn't so good after all [10:36] dionysian: wget -r ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-current/testing/packages/kde4/ [10:36] evo- (n=evo@p5DDE7E96.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:36] Action: panzer nukes spook's lab with McD's cup full of mini pocket nukes [10:36] DeeeeP, usually in xorg.conf keyboard section: Option "XkbLayout" "gb" for ex [10:36] DeeeeP: set it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf [10:36] there you go. good old german mirror [10:36] oh ok [10:36] so it will work in any window manager [10:36] Action: spook deploys an ion cannon network [10:37] i win [10:37] DeeeeP: there is also a xfce kb indicator plugin in xfce goodies [10:37] what was wrong with that mirror? [10:37] dionysian: the main directory was empty [10:37] Action: panzer holds head in shame. spook won [10:37] luckily DralaFi noticed it [10:38] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:38] Lord_Khelben, do u know binary name ? [10:38] Action: spook makes sure to launch an orbital control center for the network [10:38] DeeeeP: you mean for the indicator plugin ? [10:38] yeah [10:38] xfce4-xkb-plugin [10:38] ok [10:38] dtanner (n=dtanner@gware/developer/dtanner) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:38] not found :x [10:38] mmmm scotch [10:39] anyway , i've set it under xorg.conf [10:39] Lord_Khelben, yeah. i had a quick look in the kde/ as i reall want to try kde 4.2 on slack/slamd64 [10:39] DeeeeP: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-xkb-plugin [10:39] ok, it's downloading... i'm going to step away a moment... brb [10:39] ok thanks [10:40] DeeeeP: rworkman has packages for all xfce goodies [10:40] well most of them [10:40] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:40] there are ALOT of xfce goodies [10:40] spook: I shall return with improved skills [10:40] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:40] DralaFi: it was my mistake that i didn't make sure the files are there, but i supposed they mirror the files too besides the directories :) [10:40] panzer: doesnt matter, i have an ion cannon network. [10:41] with orbital control center no less. I will have to break out my willsmith robot pilot and have it blow the orbital center up [10:42] how? it would get intercepted before it could reach orbit [10:42] time to I guess get xfce running. [10:42] i upgraded to rworkman's xfce46 yesterday [10:42] but it is a willsmith spec robot with optional cigar smoking mod [10:42] it is very beautiful [10:43] Lord_Khelben: oh yeah? [10:43] panzer: any projectile will get destroyed. [10:43] guess I need to use this rack of something. [10:43] for something even. [10:43] thumbs: they changed many stuff [10:43] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:43] turtletits (n=root@24.115.166.97.res-cmts.flt.ptd.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:43] Lord_Khelben: I love the one that shipped with 12.2 [10:43] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:43] most of them are code changes ofcourse but it is more beautiful too [10:43] Lord_Khelben: I just might upgrade mine now :)( [10:45] well spook have a good day. I got to get. [10:45] cya [10:45] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [10:45] oh, and I feel dirty. I installed kubuntu on a friend's laptop [10:45] you hate him ? [10:45] Action: panzer cuts thumbs thumbs off [10:45] hmm now i got this problem hehe i need to reconfigure x [10:45] no [10:45] xconf? where is it! [10:45] the friend never used linux, and I don't want to maintain it too much [10:45] madbear: /etc/X11/xorg.conf [10:46] Lord_Khelben: T_T well i have to go there [10:46] madbear: what do you want to configure ? [10:46] i guess video card [10:46] why do you guess ? [10:46] and it doesnt find my dlink wifi card.. [10:46] Lord_Khelben: I could have set up slackware, but then I'd have to teach my friend how to manage it [10:47] Lord_Khelben: with no previous linux experience, I decided against it [10:47] allend (n=allend@121.214.170.155) left irc: "Leaving" [10:47] im in great trouble now [10:47] yeah i understand. i put debian on my brother's computer 2 years ago for the same reason [10:48] he couldn't even manage debian and so after some time i put slackware [10:48] madbear: X doesn't have anything to do with the wifi card. this is the kernel's doing [10:48] madbear: good [10:48] what model is it ? [10:49] Lord_Khelben: i know, i will have to set up xorg for the resulotion [10:49] and wifi i dont know modprobe ralink something i guess [10:49] udev should load the driver automagically. you shouldn't need to run modprobe [10:49] it did not [10:49] weird [10:49] oh [10:49] ralink is not on kernel [10:50] so u need third party driver [10:50] lspci gives me ralink RT2561 [10:50] so i guess it is [10:50] it is ... but its not on kernel [10:50] T_T [10:51] DeeeeP: i used to have a ralink usb card and it was supported by the rt73 module i think [10:52] kernel includes many modules for ralink. rt61pci,rt2500pci,rt2500usb,rt2x00,etc [10:52] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:52] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [10:52] Lord_Khelben: what did u do [10:52] i can find this card so i guess i can use it? [10:53] madbear: at that time i downloaded the firmware and udev loaded automatically the necessary modules. now slack includes all the necessary firmwares for these cards [10:53] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [10:53] so nothing is needed. if it is supported by these modules [10:53] it should work fine [10:53] otherwise it is what DeeeeP said about third driver [10:54] is there a way to upgrade to -current and keep up to date with changes? [10:54] http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html [10:54] or is that a bad idea to begin with? [10:54] dionysian: you can follow the changelog and see what changes there are [10:54] or you can use a program that does the upgrades automatically [10:54] such as slackpkg , slackroll etc [10:54] but you need to be a little familiar with slackware when you use [10:54] these tools [10:55] dionysian, i use slackpkg to stay in current [10:55] DeeeeP: thank you [10:56] Wojo (i=wojo@chello087206253139.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [10:58] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:59] nitro25 (n=nitro25@cpe-72-230-179-21.rochester.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:00] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:01] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:02] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:04] Lord_Khelben: i'm a little familiar. what do i need to know in order to be safe? [11:05] if you have made a full install and use slackpkg i don't think you will have any problems [11:05] ok [11:05] but don't take my opinion to it. wait to hear what others will say too [11:06] i remember with debian unstable, doing an update every couple days would occasionally have some disastrous effects... but they could usually be solved [11:07] f3ck4r_ (i=f3ck4r@189.81.224.80) joined ##slackware. [11:09] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [11:14] f3ck4r (i=f3ck4r@189.81.224.80) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:15] Lord_Khelben, i think slackpkg will only update packages u got into system , if u got fewer than full install , it will upgrade only those fewer installed packages [11:15] zeroXzero (n=zeroXzer@59.93.7.210) joined ##slackware. [11:15] bman (i=1000@c83-248-0-177.bredband.comhem.se) joined ##slackware. [11:15] unless u run slackpkg install-new [11:15] hi [11:16] has anyone had any problems with torrent clients to cause disconnection in wireless? [11:17] im still connected to the router but i cant surf or download from torrent. [11:18] i've had a windows box account connected trought wireless to the internet , and strange things happened when i had a lot of torrents seeding / downloading [11:19] bman, can u ping router ip ? and this one > 64.37.182.61 [11:20] maybe the NAT table is full [11:20] a torrent is likely to fill it [11:21] i turned DMZ on. So there shouldnt be a problem with NAT. Right? [11:21] and why would it be full with wireless and not with wired connection ? [11:21] because with wireless there are more lost connections [11:21] i got a jensen air link 89300 [11:22] yes i can ping them. [11:22] then u got internet [11:22] might be a dns problem ? [11:23] DeeeeP, wireless connections can manage less concurrent connections [11:23] so , not about NAT table then [11:24] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs@189.6.67.94) joined ##slackware. [11:24] mmm [11:24] ... [11:24] foda [11:24] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl21-53.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [11:24] do you think it could be DNS? [11:25] if u can ping 64.37.182.61 , u got internet [11:25] i have tryed using both ktorrent and transmission and both does the same things [11:25] DeeeeP, if a connection is lost and it has to be retried the NAT table grows because there is a timeout [11:25] try to ping www.sony.com [11:26] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "...The man who walks alone is likely to find himself in places no one has ever been. ~Alan Ashley-Pitt" [11:26] you can try to lower the TCP timeout (with DD-WRT it is pretty easy) [11:26] yea but the problem isnt that i got internet now, it's that when i start a torrent client and start downloading the internet connection is lost. [11:26] xroberx, but that would affect wired connections too , right [11:26] yeah [11:27] xroberx, but he's pinging an external ip [11:27] ok and what exactly does it mean with tcp timeout? [11:27] but if you combine that with a weak wireless signal (so there are dropped packets) chances are you'll get in trouble [11:27] nacho_ (n=nacho@190.51.18.47) joined ##slackware. [11:28] DeeeeP, yeah, NAT doesn't affect pinging the router directly [11:28] hmm [11:28] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.18.47) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:28] Nick change: nacho_ -> nachox [11:28] xroberx, the ip i gave was from internet , so it would pass trought nat table [11:28] i had the very same problem until I lowered the TCP timeout and the max number of connections [11:29] harmattan (n=harmatta@82.158.226.5.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [11:29] or else there will be ghost connections in the NAT table [11:29] did you have the same problem with torrents? [11:30] you can also try to disable NAT and assign the WAN IP to the computer [11:30] bman, u could reboot your router to check :) [11:30] (if you happend to have just one computer of course) [11:31] xroberx: i have already done that im not using any nat now. [11:31] then I don't know :) [11:31] ok :) [11:31] bman, ping www.sony.com , any response ? [11:31] xroberx (n=chat@80.Red-88-10-95.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: "see ya!" [11:32] DeeeeP, yea i can ping it [11:32] what error u got on torrent client ? [11:33] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [11:34] internet connection works fine when i dont use torrent clients. And when i start the client is not the problem either, its when it starts downloading that the connection is lost. im still connected to the router but it leaves me without internet connection. when i disconnects from the router, and connects again the internet works. [11:36] the same message ass if you started the torrent client without a internet connection. [11:36] alkos333 (n=alkos333@c-98-206-16-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:36] u should try what xroberx told , might not be easy for your router [11:37] DeeeeP, ok so i should lower the tcp timeout? [11:38] can i do that from my router? [11:38] or is there a program for that. [11:38] vncsnvs (n=vncsnvs@189.6.67.94) left irc: [11:39] i think i found a slackware package for my card [11:39] how do i install it hehe [11:39] installpkg [11:39] nvm.. doinst may do the trick [11:39] oh [11:39] ty [11:44] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [11:45] madbear: doinsh.sh is the post installation script. [11:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:46] BP{k}: sure? [11:47] ;> [11:47] Nick change: f3ck4r_ -> f3ck4r [11:49] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: Client Quit [11:50] ryht|NiMD (n=blackhat@125.161.74.39) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:50] thrice`: my magic 8-ball said so! ;) [11:51] My results of my 6 drives in raid1 with stripped lvm, http://pastebin.learnix.net/19 Not too shabby i'd say, esp for all sata drives. :D [11:52] 6 drive raid 1? [11:52] isn't that..uhm..a waste? [11:55] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [11:55] really it's like a 10 because of the lvm stripping. And i wouldn't consider it a waste. [11:55] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4385930.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:55] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [11:56] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:56] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4385930.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:59] [cipher] (n=cipher@41.252.44.208) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:02] well kde4.2 seems like it runs much better, at first glance [12:03] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "leaving" [12:04] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:04] *crash* [12:04] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-176-64.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [12:05] _Elric_ (n=elric_@87.13.195.221) joined ##slackware. [12:06] my ISP provides VoIP but only with a windows only softphone, I need to know If I can use that service with Linux or other *nixes, but I dont have enough knowledge about that yet [12:07] Ojg (n=Ojg@c-83-233-228-68.cust.bredband2.com) joined ##slackware. [12:08] <_Elric_> i have a strange problem. on a 4.5 gig drive, i still have 2 gig available but it looks like if it is full [12:08] <_Elric_> for example, if I try to complile some sources soon i get a " no space left on device error" [12:08] <_Elric_> what can I do ? [12:08] loading xine when visiting a web page in firefox is super annoying [12:09] _Elric_: does "df -h" support that 2 gigs are free? [12:09] dionysian: removepkg gxine :) [12:09] dionysian: just disable the xine mozilla plugin [12:09] <_Elric_> the os is, of course, slack [12:09] <_Elric_> thrice`: yes [12:09] all inodes used up? [12:09] just for fun, pastebin df -h ? [12:10] thrice`, removed! [12:11] <_Elric_> thrice`: now i am on debian. i was building my environment but i got this error so i could not continue nor connect to the internet [12:12] <_Elric_> thrice`: anyway, at the moment, mounting the slack partition and running df -h the slack line is: [12:12] <_Elric_> /dev/hda4 4,5G 2,5G 1,8G 59% /mnt/slack [12:12] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:13] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [12:13] hm, strange [12:13] <_Elric_> thrice`: eh, i know [12:14] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.1.250.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) joined ##slackware. [12:14] _Elric_: Have you ran a fsck on it since this happened? [12:14] <_Elric_> agentc0re1: no. shall i try ? [12:15] _Elric_: I would. [12:16] <_Elric_> i'm checking [12:18] <_Elric_> checked [12:18] now to get my usb headphones working [12:19] slackmag1c (n=magician@173.74.119.165) joined ##slackware. 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[12:27] <_Elric_> i'm checking the partition again [12:27] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) left irc: Client Quit [12:27] how can i get amarok to output to my usb headphones/ [12:27] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. [12:28] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [12:29] <_Elric_> well, filesystem (ext3) is ok [12:29] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [12:29] <_Elric_> having checked it with e2fsck -vpf i got 0 as exit code, which means no errors [12:29] <_Elric_> what else can be ? [12:30] saneseto (n=sanesto@modemcable127.214-56-74.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [12:30] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:31] The-spiki (n=spiki@234-220.static.ikomline.net) joined ##slackware. [12:31] http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/28/047227&from=rss Very cool and interesting! :D [12:31] _Elric_, what filesystem is it ? [12:31] <_Elric_> DeeeeP: ext3 [12:36] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.14) left irc: [12:36] dionysian it often works out of the box but you need to tell the applikation what output device to use. [12:36] i had to fiddle with the kde4.2 config [12:37] hello guys, I have a sound problem, and i got this error: [12:37] "Sound server informational message: [12:37] Error while initializing the sound driver: [12:37] Channel flood from saneseto -- kicking [12:37] device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or directory) [12:37] The sound server will continue, using the null output device." [12:37] saneseto kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [12:37] lol [12:37] now it works well [12:37] defaults to the usb headphones when they are plugged in, switches to the laptop speakers when it's unplugged [12:38] will go back to the usb set when it's plugged back in [12:38] "if you have no sound; we odon't want to hear you complain!" ;) [12:38] faffi_ (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:38] saneseto does the sound work or not? [12:38] nille_: he's not here. [12:38] faffi (n=pwn@134.71.195.223) joined ##slackware. [12:39] ohh i saw that now :p [12:39] dionysian then post the solution on linuxquestions or something so others can find it. [12:40] and explain exactly whats needed [12:40] it's actually super simple [12:41] it's in the kde system settings [12:41] can't miss it [12:41] yes i know that but if you post solutions when you come across an problem more ppl will se it and less will ask about it [12:41] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [12:41] ok [12:42] marcus_ (n=Marcus@d90-128-53-209.cust.tele2.de) joined ##slackware. [12:42] So you can google for an solution, thats how wikis and forums help ppl [12:44] whats the linux distribution that allows to partition a drive? [12:44] any of them [12:44] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.34) joined ##slackware. [12:44] well.... there is a gparted live CD [12:44] there's one that's specifically used for partitionning and resizing windows partitions [12:45] fcaraballo (n=fcarabal@unaffiliated/fcaraballo) left irc: "Leaving" [12:46] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) joined ##slackware. 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[13:27] anyone use encrypted partitions with slackware? anyone know if any of the desktop environments / window managers support encrypted partitions, i.e. they'll ask you for passphrase? [13:28] kama (n=kama@host17-116-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:29] chilkewar (n=chilkewa@203.115.68.134) joined ##slackware. [13:29] TwinReverb: I think encrypted partitions ask for the password earlier than that. [13:30] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:31] TwinReverb: or can be configured to anyhow. README_CRYPT.TXT [13:32] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] ls [13:32] . [13:32] Razec (n=razec@189.56.183.198) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [13:36] edman007|work (n=edman007@ool-44c286d0.dyn.optonline.net) joined ##slackware. [13:36] deleting kde4.2 [13:37] why? [13:38] Anything I can help with? [13:38] probably not. [13:38] eviljames, yeah i read it [13:38] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-176-64.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:38] it's just not ready for me [13:38] i was asking more along the lines of if anyone could tell me how easy those are to use with the various DEs that's all [13:38] (Also, FWIW, Nvidia driver 180.35 is working fine here with KDE on 64-bit, for anyone who is interested.) [13:39] i'm using i810 [13:39] Action: TwinReverb hugs i810 [13:39] and there is some weirdness [13:40] some artifacts, at times [13:40] very annoying [13:40] harmattan (n=harmatta@82.158.226.5.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [13:40] Nick change: Tux__ -> Camarade_Tux [13:42] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-207-57.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [13:42] konversation doesn't have a kde4 port? [13:43] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) joined ##slackware. [13:43] what was the command that alienBOB mentioned to download the source and run a slackbuild script in one line? [13:44] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [13:44] not sure about his command, but if you're using slackbuilds.org stuff, something like: source *.info && wget $DOWNLOAD; sh *.SlackBuild [13:44] Nick change: marcus__ -> marcus_ [13:46] it was something similar to that [13:46] started with a . [13:46] "." = "source" [13:46] ok [13:47] Okay, scratch my earlier statement, 180.35 is NOT working fine. brb [13:48] nachox (n=nacho@190.51.18.47) left irc: "Leaving" [13:48] jkwood: heh heh. [13:49] Action: ccfreak2k uses unichrome. [13:49] rarlabs doesn't want to acknowledge my request! [13:49] Action: eviljames uses intel [13:49] dionysian, fuck 'em. Use p7zip. [13:49] dissocia2ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-183-150.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [13:49] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4385930.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:50] does that extract rar sets? [13:50] Action: TwinReverb is going to try to install slackware encrypted very soon. for now, encrypting the external hard drive will be sufficient [13:50] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4385930.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [13:51] dionysian, I think so. [13:51] 7zip GUI supports it. [13:51] Should logically follow that p7zip should too. [13:52] _Elric_ (n=elric_@87.13.195.221) left irc: "WeeChat 0.2.6" [13:52] renew_01 (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:53] dionysian i installed unrar the other day and it worked good. [13:53] renew (n=renew@adsl-68-127-179-64.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:53] Nick change: renew_01 -> renew [13:54] It doesn't. [13:54] dionysian: Standby one. [13:54] jkwood unrar? [13:54] nille_: p7zip doesn't do rars. [13:54] ok [13:55] dissocia1ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-219-6.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:55] me_ (n=me_@78.146.202.230) joined ##slackware. [13:55] chilkewar (n=chilkewa@203.115.68.134) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:55] well i think i will upload an new unrar (newer version) and take over as maintainer [13:56] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:56] i downloaded the one from slackbuilds.org [13:56] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [13:56] rumenovski (n=zoli@77.29.187.92) joined ##slackware. [13:56] does it make sense to try to defragment a filesystem that's on an encrypted volume? [13:56] tried to wget the source and it didn't go [13:56] Ah... I forgot, I deleted my SOURCES directory the other day. [13:56] Zygocactus (n=Zygocact@189.77.48.213) joined ##slackware. [13:57] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [13:58] well, i'm installing p7zip [13:59] aliase (n=aliase@76-10-137-81.dsl.teksavvy.com) left irc: "AHHHHHHHHHH!" [13:59] man this is why laptops need to start shipping with via ace padlock lol [13:59] dionysian: According to http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com, rarlab is down. [13:59] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) joined ##slackware. [13:59] jkwood: thanks for checking [14:00] do you need a copy of the file? [14:00] if p7zip isn't going to let me unrar these files, i will [14:00] I'm scouring the web for a copy of unrarsrc-3.7.8.tar.gz [14:01] distfiles.gentoo.org is usually a good place to start [14:01] http://free.asparuhovo.net/linux/unrarsrc-3.7.8.tar.gz [14:02] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-207-57.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:02] MD5 is good. [14:02] That appears to be the right file. [14:02] TwinReverb, sure it does. [14:03] It's encrypted, but it still loads data from the drive the same way. [14:03] ccfreak2k, thanks. it's sad that i'm so stuck in the old-school primary partition + FS that i have no clue [14:04] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:04] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [14:04] othermindszine (n=othermin@59.sub-75-216-98.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. [14:05] thanks jkwood [14:05] building now [14:05] LVM took me like 30 minutes just to read and understand the concept, i.e. truly understand, not just think i understood [14:05] bkUp (n=bkUp@189.36.160.222) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:06] doesn't fedora partition as lvm by default? [14:06] Action: TwinReverb could care less because it's not slackware [14:07] Isn't LVM just a fancy software RAID anyway? [14:07] no [14:07] and unraring fileset [14:08] logical volumes. not physical ones (partitions). a LVM system, instead of having multiple partitions (physically) has one big primary partition (physically). this is chopped into 32MB extents, or pieces, on which the logical volumes sit (sort of like hyperthreading, which is two logical CPUs on one physical CPU) [14:08] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-219-149.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [14:09] So it's more akin to freebsd partitioning. [14:09] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:09] hello happy slakcers [14:09] anyways, this one big physical partition gets then several logical partitions which can contain filesystems. the advantage is that you can resize partitions on the fly (like growing / or /home as needed, when you run into problems) [14:09] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) joined ##slackware. [14:10] LVM can be the bomb. once, for example, i had to grow my /home, i just slapped in the USB hard drive and extended the LVM onto it (since it can combine any number of physical partitions into one logical partition, or volume group) so that i could juggle around some of my storage [14:10] i have 3 partitions, /boot, / and swap [14:11] the only thing about LVM is that the only FS that makes sense on it, if you intend to both grow AND shrink your FS on the fly, is ReiserFS, since xfs, jfs, and many others cannot be resized [14:11] they can be grown, but not shrank [14:12] the README_CRYPT teaches you how to use LVM as a tool to create one large encrypted volume, on which you can then put your /, swap, and /home, and be done with it. one password to unlock all partitions (due to using LVM) [14:13] interestingly enough, you still would have to have a small /boot partition using that setup, but only because LILO cannot decrypt your kernel image on the fly using LUKS [14:14] but other than that, there really are no drawbacks (except maybe overhead caused by encrypt/decrypt) [14:14] TwinReverb, can u remove that usb disk that u added to lvm ? [14:14] aperturefever` (n=abell@athedsl-196896.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [14:14] DeeeeP, yeah, once i was done doing that, i simply removed it from the storage pool and then reformatted the usb stick [14:14] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [14:14] i now have a package for ralink rt2500 but the package is for 12.1 [14:14] and it doesnt seem to work [14:15] it was so easy it was a weird sensation [14:15] TwinReverb, u removed and didnt lost data ? [14:15] madbear: What version of Slackware are you using? [14:15] me__ (n=me_@78.146.202.230) joined ##slackware. [14:16] DeeeeP, yes, you just tell the LVM system that you're removing it and it moves the data over to the other available physical partitions within that volune group [14:16] TwinReverb, oh , right [14:16] you just need to make sure you do it properly [14:16] bman (i=1000@c83-248-0-177.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:16] is it safe to assume that if there is a slackbuild for something, it's not already included in slackware? [14:16] i mean, i did it, and i am a total LVM newbie, but one must read and understand the concept thoroughly to avoid breaking it [14:17] dionysian, no, for there are some slackbuild scripts for stuff in 12.2 (just updates and such) [14:17] Very few. [14:17] And in those cases, they will be noted in the README. [14:17] yes, but i was mainly attacking the word "assume". sorry, i'm military, they beat a stupid cliche into my brain about that word [14:18] With that said, if you want to update to a newer version of some software included in Slackware, you cna go check out the source directory on the mirrors and get Pat's original SlackBuild from there to play with. [14:19] pros and cons of LVM to me was like this: pros would be resizing and in this case encrypting. cons would be using an initrd (i despise them :D) [14:21] me_ (n=me_@78.146.202.230) left irc: "me_em" [14:21] me__ (n=me_@78.146.202.230) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:22] ed2ef (n=eduardo@201.17.100.139) joined ##slackware. [14:22] jkwood: 12.2 [14:23] That would be a very good reason for it to not work. [14:23] TwinReverb: Ya, and i also seem to recall a noobfarm quote of how you hate initrd's as well. [14:23] Drivers have to match the running kernel. [14:23] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [14:23] nullboy: ! Sup dude? [14:24] rt2500 *should* be present as a module on your machine. [14:24] nullboy: I saw this today and thought you'd enjoy this: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/28/047227&from=rss [14:25] me_ (n=me_@78.146.202.230) joined ##slackware. [14:25] me_ (n=me_@78.146.202.230) left irc: Client Quit [14:26] me_ (n=me_@78.146.202.230) joined ##slackware. [14:26] me_ (n=me_@78.146.202.230) left irc: Client Quit [14:27] jkwood: i cant modprobe it [14:27] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:27] What does "lsmod | grep rt2500" tell you? [14:27] madbear, what about downloading from the link i gave u , and compile it ? [14:27] noting [14:27] DeeeeP: i did , didnt even compile [14:28] what error did it bring ? [14:28] madbear: how about "modprobe -v rt2500" ? [14:28] /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-smp/build: No such file... [14:28] You guys ever suspect that some people on freenode are just pretending to be females to get help? or is it just me? [14:28] avidemux has command line tools, right? [14:28] agentc0re1: damn they found my home! [14:28] jkwood: not found [14:28] or is it gui only? [14:28] listen i just used the 2 first cds for installing [14:29] Eeenteresting... [14:29] hi, i am using slack 12.2, and while i was reading the 12.1 faq hosted at linuxquestions.org, it tells me that i need libdvdcss and libdvdread to read an encrypted disk. are all store bought disks encrypted? i've never played one on a laptop before, so this term is throwing me off. [14:29] Gargantua: this has just now occurred to you? [14:29] Nah [14:29] I just keep noticing it day after day [14:29] Nick change: nullboy -> nullgirl [14:29] omg sex change! [14:29] Especially with more extravagent nicks like hotSlackwareNerd [14:29] blkdg: There's a pretty good chance, yes. [14:29] thank you. [14:30] nullgirl: You came back! [14:30] Action: TwinReverb shoots nullgirl "stop playing God!" [14:30] lol [14:30] what help you want now , nullgirl ? :) [14:30] haha [14:30] ZOMG! Where have you been? [14:30] omg nullgirl do u hav boob [14:30] would that xpalin why xine just sits there jkwood ? [14:30] can i hav ur boob [14:30] blkdg: Possibly. [14:30] hahahaha [14:30] Nick change: nullgirl -> nullboy [14:30] thanks again. [14:30] can i has b00b? [14:30] Action: agentc0re1 cup checks nullgirl [14:30] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:30] Still feels like boy to me :P [14:30] lol [14:31] Action: TwinReverb has a lolcat fail there, surprised no one noticed :P [14:31] s/has/haz ? [14:32] Where did nullgirl go? [14:32] =( [14:32] You guys are pervs. [14:33] bono (i=bono@118-160-163-154.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Connection timed out [14:33] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-199305.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:33] Nick change: aperturefever` -> aperturefever [14:33] they tried to touch her boobz [14:33] THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS [14:33] all she wanted was help! [14:33] no i said "can i has" rather than "i can has" [14:34] i has idiosyncratic conjugation [14:35] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:38] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [14:40] me_ (n=me_@78.146.202.230) joined ##slackware. [14:40] me_ (n=me_@78.146.202.230) left irc: Client Quit [14:41] skibur (i=1000@12.197.205.184) joined ##slackware. [14:44] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:44] imexius_ (n=imexius@S01060018f85afd84.tb.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:51] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [14:54] hi, i am using slack 12.2, and i would like to play a dvd. i just installed libdvdcss and then libdvdread from the slackbuilds.org scripts. i still cannot get gxine to recognize the dvd. the error i get is: no plugin found read /dev/dvd error. [14:55] does the slackbuild script have to be run as root, or just the installpkg command? [14:55] Whole script. [14:55] if you run a slackbuild from SBo as root you will need to run the rest as root too because the dirs in /tmp will be chown root [14:56] when i look at etc/fstab as root i see this. #/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,owner,ro 0 0 [14:56] imexius (n=imexius@unaffiliated/imexius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:56] blkdg: what is the device name for your dvd drive? [14:56] sr0 ? [14:56] ed2ef (n=eduardo@201.17.100.139) left ##slackware. [14:57] nullboy: the only thing that looks like an optical drive is the one i just posted with the #sign infront of it. [14:57] ... [14:57] nullboy: so you're saying you can run the slackbuild as a user? [14:57] what is the device name of your optical drive? [14:57] one sec [14:58] blkdg: that fstab entry is not the problem, btw [14:58] nullboy: ok, where will i find the device name? [14:58] dionysian: Only if /tmp is chowned by a user, or if you pass it a different TMP directory. [14:58] I'm gonna go with "the DVD is CSS encrypted." [14:58] blkdg: look in dmesg [14:59] ccfreak2k: no, he probably just needs to create a symlink [14:59] ie, TMP=/some/path/you/can/write/to ./*.SlackBuild [14:59] gzine is looking for /dev/dvd, create a link from /dev/sr0 to /dev/dvd and try again [14:59] gxine* [14:59] if sr0 is the name of your drive at least, sub for whatever it really is [15:00] jkwood: sounds like my life would just be easier running it all as root [15:00] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) joined ##slackware. [15:00] dionysian: there is no problem running it as root in the first place though [15:01] if you're worried you can audit the scripts yourself [15:01] in dmesg i find hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache [15:01] blk it's hdc [15:01] blkdg: ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd [15:01] does "ls -l /dev/dvd" return anything ? [15:01] then restart gzine [15:01] Action: pirving is listening to Frank Zappa - Montana [15:01] ok, in gxine, i can oly see dispay settings. where do i repoint it. [15:01] checking. [15:02] god. [15:02] i just told you [15:02] nullboy: i see you told me to make a sym link, thank you. [15:02] but do you know where to change iot in the app? [15:03] thrice`: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-02-28 09:10 /dev/dvd -> hdc [15:03] Action: thrice` suspected so [15:03] blkdg, the point of the symlink is that you don't NEED to change it from /dev/dvd. [15:03] ah, [15:03] cool [15:03] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:04] as root: ln: creating symbolic link `/dev/dvd': File exists [15:04] it was already there [15:04] you just showed us that it was already there... [15:04] yep, slack already made it [15:04] what's my next step? [15:04] pirvings (n=talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [15:05] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:05] the faq for 12.1 at linuxquestions.com said to install libdvdcss and then libdvdread. when i went and built them at slackbuids i noticed libdvdplay and another one. do i need these as well? [15:06] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [15:06] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [15:07] did i miss something in your instruction? [15:08] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) joined ##slackware. [15:08] Action: dionysian builds avidemux [15:08] i've restarted gixne as you said nullboy but there's still no change. [15:09] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [15:10] is this a permissions issue? [15:10] i would install anything that said DVD [15:10] personally [15:10] thats just me [15:10] ... [15:10] brute force [15:11] that's not what the faq said [15:11] yeah that's a great method especially considering that there are DVD software conflicts.... [15:11] but go ahead, use a shotgun [15:11] oh, damn [15:11] do you get a warning message? [15:11] use a hatchet where you should be using a scalpel! [15:12] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-156-22.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [15:12] yup, here it is: [15:13] i closed my laptop's lid, and when i reopened it, the screen never came back on [15:13] lw0x15 (n=izap@78-105-255-246.zone3.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [15:14] dionysian, press the any key [15:14] the xine engine failed to start. no input plugin was found. maybe the file does not exist or cannt me accessed or there is an error in the url READ ERROR from /dev/dvd [15:14] tank-man: what? [15:14] me_ (n=me_@78.147.144.81) joined ##slackware. [15:14] you have to press a keyboard key to make it wake up [15:14] heh [15:14] thats what i get when i right click in gxine and go to dvd [15:14] that clearly didn't work [15:14] press the power button [15:15] tried that [15:15] it went to sleep? hibernate or something? [15:15] dionysian: did you write a script to set that up? [15:15] powersaver on the monitor? [15:15] because you need to write a script that turns it back on too [15:15] Gadotti (n=x@189.73.65.187) joined ##slackware. [15:15] no, i didn't write anything [15:15] how did you put it to sleep? [15:15] i meant to keep it open, when i moved to the other room [15:16] closed it accidentally [15:16] i don't know whether it actually went to sleep or if the screen just went blank [15:16] is the disk spinning? [15:16] dissocia2ive (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-183-150.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:16] the hard drive light occasionally blinked [15:16] it's either not asleep or crashed [15:17] or both [15:17] but as far as i know, closing the lid by default will do nothing unless you are in a DE that has something setup [15:17] kitche (i=kitche@sourcemage/guru/kitche) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:18] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@unaffiliated/catoptromancy) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:18] try to ssh in [15:18] kitche_ (i=kitche@silenceisdefeat.com) joined ##slackware. [15:18] Gadotti (n=x@189.73.65.187) left irc: Client Quit [15:18] On my Dell box (and this Averatec box as well), closing the lid causes the screen to turn off, but not back on when it's lifted again unless I have an event to set DPMS on. [15:20] ccfreak2k: that sounds like the problem [15:20] i just use acpi event hooks to do it [15:20] this is a dell inspiron [15:20] i use a d620 [15:21] what about alt-ctrl f2, f3, to get out of X ? [15:21] i wasn't in X [15:21] i really don't know though [15:21] oh, sorry. [15:21] dpms doesn't care if X is there or not [15:21] Yep, watch /var/log/messages or something for lid events and write a script to intercept and execute the appropriate command. [15:21] it will kill the backlight regardless [15:21] ccfreak2k: i'm not sure how to go about that [15:21] ACPI events. [15:23] Actually you could also edit /etc/acpi/acpi_handler.sh [15:23] ok, so i build and installed libdvdplay and libdvdnav but gxine still will not play dvds. [15:23] do i need to restart my session ? [15:23] reboot? [15:23] ldconfig? [15:23] you have to install vlc? [15:24] download a codex(whatever that is) [15:24] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10725 [15:24] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) joined ##slackware. [15:24] bbeecher (n=bbeecher@stu234-138.bard.edu) joined ##slackware. [15:24] madbear, no vlc, this is a fresh(kinda) install of 12.2 [15:24] vlc crashes for me [15:25] it will only play 1/4 of a dvd then just bails out [15:25] mplayer is a piece of shit too [15:25] j0z (n=JESUS@189.74.89.128) joined ##slackware. [15:25] I sort of expect vlc to be dumb, but it's suprising for mplayer to do that. [15:25] mplayer randomly decides that the dvd is done [15:26] ok, so is this a gxine or a system issue? [15:26] navigating chapters crashes mplayer too [15:26] nullboy, probably because it only reads the first VOB of the title. [15:26] do i compile a new player or ... ? [15:26] gxine should work fine after you installed css [15:27] do i need to install anything else for gixne? [15:27] hm. [15:31] i guess i'll have to wait to figure out the lid problem [15:31] dionysian: why? [15:31] right now, i don't even have sound in xfce [15:31] nathanbw (n=nathan@75-143-75-209.dhcp.aubn.al.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [15:31] i pasted an example for you (2009-02-28 12:24:28) nullboy: http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/10725 [15:31] ok, so i rand to get my old installation notes, and as far back as slackware 10.2 on this very machine, my note says get libdvdcss and compile. [15:32] do if nothing changed on my box, and the libdvdcss is the same ... [15:32] nullboy: oh, i didn't realize that was intended for me [15:32] i don't mean version [15:32] that is just one solution method [15:32] at lilo, the computer dont anser my keys [15:32] answer, so i have to wait the 2 min. [15:32] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:32] madbear: USB keyboard? [15:32] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [15:33] nullboy: yeah [15:33] madbear: play with the bios settings [15:33] nullboy: ah ok, but it did work with slax and others :S [15:33] madbear: yeah? well is this slax? [15:33] Andry_Sleeps (n=na@host171-246-dynamic.24-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:33] is slackware $OTHERS ? [15:33] hehe no but i mean should it then be bios? well i will go there :P [15:34] nullboy: so if i take that as is, and drop it in /etc/acpi it will just work? [15:34] dionysian: maybe...like i just said, that is one example method [15:35] it uses acpi hooks to trigger the dpms commands [15:35] i'm assuming it needs to be chmod +x [15:35] ok, so do i make mplayer or lcv next? [15:36] i mean vlc [15:36] why don't you just try to figure it out? [15:36] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:37] marto28sf (i=1000@84-252-10-104.2073173059.ddns-lan.ekk.bg) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:37] bono (i=bono@118-160-162-68.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] i don't know where else to ask for help. i read the faq, i installed more libs than it tells me to and the symbolic link was already there. how can i figure it out when MY own notes say to just add libdvdcss to slackware 10.2, and here i am at slack12.2 and the process has become illogical. [15:38] that's why. [15:39] hiptobecubic (n=john@nat072.wireless.miami.edu) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [15:39] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:39] gkkk (n=gynterk@77-233-79-156.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [15:39] no, that didn't work :) [15:39] :) [15:40] thanks again. [15:40] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [15:40] dionysian: is acpid running? [15:40] are you getting acpi triggers? [15:40] read your logs [15:40] screw this [15:40] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left ##slackware ("-"). [15:40] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:40] :) [15:41] :( [15:41] greetings and salutations [15:41] andarius, greetings :-) [15:41] Nick change: gynterk -> Guest59723 [15:42] roccity_ (n=roccity@ip-118-90-115-154.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [15:43] Nick change: gkkk -> gynter [15:43] Nick change: gynter -> gynterk [15:43] it looks like acpid is running. where would the logfile be? dmesg? [15:44] salutations nathanbw [15:44] hey guys [15:45] dTd (n=dTd@d-206-53-76-241.cpe.metrocast.net) joined ##slackware. [15:46] im having trouble playing dvds I have all the libs but the dvd won't play it just spins in the tray [15:46] I have tried mplayer and xine [15:46] me_ (n=me_@78.147.144.81) left irc: "me_em" [15:46] is there a setting in xine that is specific for dvds? like in the settings theres things like use ffmpeg for audio and mp3 for audio [15:48] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) joined ##slackware. [15:50] AndryZ (n=na@host153-181-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Connection timed out [15:50] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:51] Guest59723 (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:53] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) joined ##slackware. [15:55] roccity_, did you install libdvdcss ? [15:56] tank-man, yeah and libdvdread nav play [15:57] tank-man, I got it from slackbuilds [15:57] where? [15:58] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) left irc: "Leaving" [15:58] sometimes mplayer needs some time to read some part of the DVD to descrable the css stuff [15:59] my Airplane DVD took about 5 minutes to start palying [15:59] but once it starts, next time its fast. i think it caches the encryption keys in ~/.mplayer/ [15:59] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [15:59] wow you're a patient person :D [16:00] who? [16:00] you [16:00] heh [16:00] my Casino Royale DVD seems like it wont play. which is annoying. [16:00] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:00] maybe if you wait a few hours ... [16:00] i prefer to buy drm free products [16:02] tank-man, i prefer to do the same too [16:02] if a desktop can't play a dvd immediately after insertion, then the desktop is useless [16:02] antler, and the desktop is slackware. therefore, slackware is useless [16:03] slackware is useless or your setup ain't great, yeah. [16:03] I tried hdparm as well [16:04] instead of just trying to play a DVD you might have better luck ripping the DVD to a file and playing it that way, i use vobcopy [16:04] is there a way to view installed packages? [16:04] dionysian, have you looked at the slackbook? [16:04] very informative [16:05] look in /var/log/packages [16:05] ty [16:05] yes thank Pig_Pen for the fish (immediate answer), don't thank me for teaching you to fish :) [16:06] hahahah i thank thee! [16:06] i've glanced at slackbook [16:06] pi31415 (n=pi31415@c-98-246-78-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [16:07] you'd probably benefit more if you did more than just glance :D [16:07] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:08] im hungry, i think i will go in the kitchen and glance at some food [16:08] roccity_ (n=roccity@ip-118-90-115-154.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [16:09] "leaving" :( he couldnt even answer where he got hte slackbuild from [16:11] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [16:13] anyone good with iptables? its giving me stupid error even though i'm following the man page (from what i understand) [16:13] i'm going to try to rebuild avidemux. i just tried to join two avi files, and the resulting file had no audio data [16:14] i had the audio set to "copy" [16:15] not sure why it would do that.. but i'm going to try installing aften (an "optional" dependancy) and then recompiling [16:15] cat name1.avi name2.avi>name3.avi ? [16:15] cheeseburger > cat [16:15] cheeseburger > me [16:15] cheeseburger >> me [16:15] heh. cat can has cheeseburger [16:16] One person gets it. [16:16] antler: no [16:17] that doesn't work [16:17] mencoder can do it i think [16:17] I was thinking mencoder too. [16:17] i think it can [16:17] i've been using avidemux for a long time, though [16:18] it works well, and i wanted to keep using it [16:18] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [16:19] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [16:19] g'day [16:19] you mean evening? [16:20] jnylin (n=jnylin@rainbow.ext.hb.se) left irc: "Leaving" [16:21] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [16:21] errordeveloper (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:22] not bad - wet. raining here [16:22] unfortunately the tmep issupposed to drop tonight so it will all turn to ice [16:23] yikes [16:23] will make for interesting driving conditions [16:23] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [16:24] I'm tired of "interesting driving conditions" actually I'm tired of winter :) [16:24] now if we could skip th melting aprt and go right to warm adn green :) [16:24] i hate cold [16:24] I don't mind the cold, I hate the messy [16:24] just move to africa and shut up :) [16:24] snow/rain slush crap [16:25] pft you live in eastern canada. get used to interesting driving conditions. [16:25] :D [16:25] antler : heh, oh I'm used to it. just not my favorite time of year :) [16:25] ok, going to try the new build of avidemux [16:28] doesn't work :-/ [16:28] NyteOwl: you should be thankful for the humidity as well. it's dry, dry, dry here in cowgary. :P [16:29] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4385930.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:30] Agiofws (n=agiofws@athedsl-4385930.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:31] SiegeX (i=SiegeX@unaffiliated/siegex) left irc: "Insert generic quit message here" [16:32] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:34] upyr (n=upyr@79.174.35.21) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:34] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@unaffiliated/gar0t0) left irc: "leaving" [16:35] Srbo (n=Srbo@dslb-084-059-023-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [16:37] !! [16:38] renew (n=renew@c-71-198-127-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. 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[16:51] screennameless (n=screenna@dyn-170-243-211.myactv.net) left irc: Client Quit [16:52] dionysian: From SBo, yes. [16:53] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [16:53] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) joined ##slackware. [16:53] othermindszine (n=othermin@59.sub-75-216-98.myvzw.com) left irc: "Where ever you may be, be well. Namarië." [16:54] hi [16:54] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [16:55] Arirang (n=Arirang@unaffiliated/kool-aid) joined ##slackware. [16:56] hi [16:57] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:59] hmm [16:59] python is an awesome scripting language [16:59] already 7.9 gigs [17:00] I just wrote a script that generates xml files for dvdauthor in about 5 minutes [17:01] i'm very disturbed by that... 7.9 gigs. [17:01] Ether_Man (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:01] Ether_Man_ (n=user@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [17:01] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:01] dionysian: 7.9 gigs for what? [17:01] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [17:02] madbear (n=dude@c83-253-148-60.bredband.comhem.se) left ##slackware. [17:02] in my / [17:02] after pretty much nothing [17:02] actually, hold a sec [17:02] dionysian: what programs did you install? [17:02] arny (n=arny@62.231.93.87) left irc: "Leaving" [17:03] ok, 4.9 GB [17:03] i was counting some other data [17:03] 4.9 gb is not that bad [17:03] but still [17:03] it's terrible [17:03] what apps did you install? [17:03] full [17:04] anything after the full install? [17:04] nothing substantial [17:04] unrar [17:04] b43-fwcutter and firmware [17:04] kde4.2, which i've since deleted [17:04] well if you want a light weight linux install, I would reccomend arch [17:05] i'll just install slackware and go through package by package [17:05] only select what i want, basically [17:05] I'll see you in about 5 years ;) [17:06] shouldn't take long... [17:06] once you know your way around a slackware install you can do a custom lightweight install in about 20 minutes, i done it many times [17:06] yeah [17:06] i just want to do a bit of research first [17:06] like what's the point of tetex? [17:07] i never install it, unless you edit & read latex files [17:07] never [17:08] sharing drive space with windows xp or something ? :) [17:08] no, just don't want the stuff i don't want [17:09] if i'm not going to use it, i don't think i need it on my system [17:09] i just need a base system, plus a compiler and libraries, and a basic xorg install with a lightweight wm [17:11] you can unselect a lot of video drivers in xorg, just keep vesa, vga and the one for your video card [17:11] five gigs is an indication that i have a lot of stuff installed that is well outside of what i want [17:11] argggh [17:11] vesa, vga, and i810 [17:11] stupid dvd plays on my computer but not on my dvd player [17:12] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:13] Pig_Pen: when you do a lightweight install, how big does it usually turn out? [17:13] about 1 gig [17:14] that's reasonable [17:16] i don't think i'll reinstall [17:17] i just think i'm going to go through and start removing packages [17:19] mordy (n=mordy@pool-68-161-219-96.ny325.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware. [17:23] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [17:26] does anything rely on a2ps? [17:28] im not sure but i think some printing stuff [17:28] read the package description [17:32] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [17:32] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) joined ##slackware. [17:34] obi-1 (n=obi-1@190.128.135.118) joined ##slackware. [17:34] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.34) left irc: [17:36] othermindszine (n=othermin@171.sub-75-216-37.myvzw.com) joined ##slackware. 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[18:01] anyone using a Maxtor BlackArmor ? [18:02] sounds scary [18:03] heh. it's an external USB HDD with hardware FDE [18:04] nophis (n=nophis@unaffiliated/nophis) left irc: "Leaving" [18:05] eeech [18:05] fde? [18:05] does the disk have onboard FDE or does the USB backplane handle it? [18:05] full disk encryption [18:05] full disk encryption [18:05] it's on the disk. It uses a Seagate Momentus laptop drive [18:05] lhiz (n=lhiz@78.32.182.59) joined ##slackware. [18:05] nice [18:05] full disk encryption [18:06] YOU RUINED IT [18:06] did anyone mention full disk encryption yet? [18:06] If nullgirl were here, SHE would have gotten it right. 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[18:21] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:21] i have it [18:21] EvilMatt, the same why as for earlier slackware versions or other linux distros [18:21] xorg did it auto [18:21] DralaFi and hows that? [18:21] EvilMatt: http://slackwiki.org/Scroll_Wheel <-- will give you a start. [18:22] thanks [18:22] EvilMatt, Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" [18:22] EvilMatt, buty have you even tried to google this?? [18:22] whats google? [18:22] :P [18:22] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [18:22] Anyone done load balancing on Linux? [18:23] as part of 'pf' your able to do sticky-roundrobin.. but i'm wondering what the linux version would be. [18:23] Pig_Pen: nope [18:23] Me, for a project several years ago, using LVS [18:23] anyone try the new kde 4.2? [18:24] so you suggest using LVS? [18:24] EvilMatt: I'm using it daily. [18:24] you like it/ [18:24] ? [18:24] i installed it last night and i love it [18:24] jkwood, do you have packages? or did you compile from svn? [18:24] KDe 4.2 is good [18:25] acidchild: yes I like what you can achieve with LVS [18:25] i downloaded the packages [18:25] it was easy [18:25] where from? [18:25] I had a battery of Nomachine NX terminal servers behind it [18:25] lol > http://i43.tinypic.com/20123vn.jpg [18:25] and i take this is for slackware-current? [18:25] http://imagebin.org/39625 lol! Bart Simpson in the future [18:25] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) joined ##slackware. [18:25] some google link [18:26] alienBOB: Alrite... does it have to be port spesific? [18:26] DralaFi: Actualy packages, blessed by fred himself. [18:26] jkwood, slamd64 or slack proper? [18:26] DralaFi: the packages in slackware-current/testing can at this moment in time, be used on slackware-12.2. [18:26] EvilMatt: I've been using KDE 4 since it was first foisted upon people as an alpha version in Kubuntu pre-feisty. ;) [18:26] BP{k}, i thought those were kde 4.1 not 4.2 [18:27] DralaFi: Slamd64. I'm planning on putting it on my Slack laptop as well to see if it can handle it. [18:27] i cant stand ubuntu [18:27] DralaFi: It's been changed recently. [18:27] DralaFi: -current has KDE 4.2 [18:27] Soon 4.2.1 I hope [18:27] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.134.185) left irc: "leaving" [18:27] DralaFi: you thought wrong (and you could have double checked that yourself) :P [18:27] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] BP{k}, :P [18:27] EvilMatt: I was using it for class. I had to use Ubuntu, but I didn't have to use Gnome. [18:28] i guess what i want to do is take the tagfiles from http://slackwiki.org/Minimal_System and add in packages i'd need for sound [18:28] This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by WMG." when I click on youtube videos [18:28] Guess I just need to use frostwire and download it [18:29] pirvings: You'll have that sometimes. [18:29] jerojasro (n=jerojasr@190.144.69.234) left irc: "leaving" [18:29] zoli_ (n=zoli@77.29.191.45) joined ##slackware. [18:29] hrm I kinda like fluxbox, think i'm going to switch. [18:29] alienBOB: Arch has 4.2.1 already. ;) [18:29] those bastards [18:30] im gonna restart to see if the scroll wheel works [18:30] wish me luck! [18:30] EvilMatt (n=matthew@cpe-75-84-167-172.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: "[BX] The birds kept calling his name, thought Caw" [18:30] what is arch, exactly? [18:30] linux distro [18:30] a linux distro [18:31] jkwood: then they are illegally releasing pre-release code (like fedora does too) [18:31] what's different about arch? [18:31] They had 4.2 the second week of January, as well. [18:31] ady (n=kinkajou@212.183.134.130) joined ##slackware. [18:31] Yesterday, two of the preliminary tarballs for 4.2.1 got updated on the release server. So whatever Arch has, will not be good [18:32] Chrysalis (n=UD@unaffiliated/chrysalis) left irc: "leaving" [18:33] I use arch on my laptop [18:33] pacman is an awesome package manager [18:34] EvilMatt (n=matthew@cpe-75-84-167-172.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [18:34] im back [18:34] and it didnt work [18:34] imwheel doesn't work either [18:34] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [18:34] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060040ca732372.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:35] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:35] imwheel? no one uses that since XOrg 3.x days... [18:36] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [18:36] what are the minimum packages needed during the install for a working sound system, and a working x environment? [18:36] EvilMatt (n=matthew@cpe-75-84-167-172.socal.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:37] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.95.145) joined ##slackware. [18:37] DralaFi, I use imwheel to make my mouse thumb buttons do pageup/down [18:40] dionysian, should be any that are tagged as REQIRED in the the tagfiles. [18:40] ady (n=kinkajou@212.183.134.130) left ##slackware. [18:42] ezrafree (i=ezra@gware/developer/ezrafree) left irc: "ircII EPIC4-2.0 -- Are we there yet?" [18:42] Ether_Man (n=polx@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [18:42] ezrafree (i=ezra@208.67.159.229) joined ##slackware. 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[18:52] kamaji (n=kamaji@resnet-186224.resnet.bris.ac.uk) left irc: "sleep" [18:52] why is aalib recommended [18:54] as a general rule of thum... if you dont know what is "needed" you are best doing a full install. if you want less than that work your way down slowly so you can tell if something goes wrong [18:55] s/thum/thumb/ [18:56] that just results in a boatload of stuff i don't particularly want or need [18:56] read the second line please [18:56] well you don't know if you want or need it in the first place... [18:56] so what is the difference? [18:56] lol [18:57] mrselfpwn (n=mrselfpw@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: "Leaving." [19:00] Ether_Man (n=polx@h224n2fls310o1101.telia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:00] vdsy (n=vdsy@S01060040ca732372.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:00] it makes a lot more sense to figure out exactly what you need, and install only that [19:00] which is exactly what the above will do for you [19:01] and since you don't know what you need you should work backwards [19:01] figure out what "you" need [19:02] that's one way of doing it, i suppose [19:02] error_developer_ (n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Connection timed out [19:08] smica (n=smica@h144-46.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) left irc: [19:09] tribeca_ (n=naitso@host108-13-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "ciao alla prossima" [19:09] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.1.250.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [19:10] nix_chix0r (n=misspwna@75-104-27-134.cust.wildblue.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:14] gm152 (n=gm@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:14] dionysian: until you know what you're doing a full install is your best bet. Then as andarius said you can gradually remove what you don't want. A full install will give you a complete, working system. Then you can customize it. [19:15] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:16] smeding (n=smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:16] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:16] simNIX (n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) joined ##slackware. [19:17] hitest: i have a full install [19:17] i want to try a pared down install [19:17] by 2012 that will translate into 10GB of software :) [19:19] you don't have to install 5 gigs of software to have a fully functioning slackware install [19:19] pprkut (n=hwiesing@ip82-139-114-123.lijbrandt.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:19] dionysian: sure start removing stuff [19:19] u can try zipslack :) [19:19] DeeeeP: not on a linux fs [19:20] wont run on ext3 ? [19:20] it doesn't make a good day to day distro at all [19:20] DeeeeP: no [19:20] cant see why [19:20] with lilo properly configured , i think it will work [19:21] ataxic (n=ataxic@87.113.1.250.plusnet.pte-ag1.dyn.plus.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] it uses the dos filesystem [19:22] last i heard zipslack is long gone [19:22] it uses whatever u want [19:22] zipslack is no more [19:23] dionysian, zipslack uses a ms-dos loader , but can be configured to boot on a ext3 fs [19:23] i am i wrong ? [19:24] DeeeeP: i'm not so sure about that. in the slackbook, it says it uses the dos filesystem which is slower than native linux filesystems [19:24] and lists that as a "disadvantage" [19:24] If I did a full install of slackware 12.2 would it come with flux box ? [19:24] yes [19:24] zipslack is only files , not filesystem's [19:24] u can untar it for whatever u want , and boot it [19:25] it has a kernel , like any other linux distro , so u just need lilo to boot it [19:25] dionysian, how do i switch from kde -> flux ? [19:25] xwmconfig [19:25] thank you [19:25] dusty_ (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:26] evo_ (n=evo@p5DDE7AD4.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "gone sleeping.." [19:27] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [19:32] Bonix (n=Bonix@200-195-41-212.isimples.com.br) left irc: "Leaving" [19:34] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-156-22.epm.net.co) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:37] tank-man-inbed (n=user@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Leaving" [19:41] ThiagoBruno (n=Thiaguin@189.71.19.40) joined ##slackware. [19:41] nullboy (n=nullboy@unaffiliated/nullboy) left irc: "life in the rear view mirror" [19:42] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:42] Camarade_Tux (n=Tux@LRouen-152-81-26-233.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [19:43] dissociative (n=dissocia@adsl190-28-136-166.epm.net.co) joined ##slackware. [19:43] do slackbuilds usually assume a "full" install? [19:44] For the most part, yes. [19:44] dionysian: ime, for the most part, yes [19:44] haha [19:44] In at least 80% of cases, configure will die letting you know what's missing. [19:45] right [19:45] 80 is a very low, CYA estimate. [19:45] what's slackbuilds have in common to a full install distro ? [19:45] nothing [19:45] he meant if it will tell you dependencies of things existing in the slackware tree [19:45] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:45] the build dep list assumes you have a full install and wont list something included in a full install [19:46] erisco (n=kambee@ip68-9-162-53.ri.ri.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [19:46] andarius: yeah that's basically what i was getting at [19:46] Most of the time, anyway. [19:46] the dep lists are pretty sparse [19:46] i though it was all the time [19:46] I've seen a couple that did, but it's rare. [19:46] Action: andarius is no guru though :P [19:46] ahh [19:46] And, they don't do a full dep list, they just mention one or two. [19:47] aye [19:47] most of l/ should be installed anyway [19:47] coninueing the slackware indeal of "they are all full install" [19:47] s [19:48] zlyzyr (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [19:48] is that really an ideal, though? [19:49] for slackware it is [19:49] manythings many not work if you dont do a full install. core apps are built assuming a full [19:50] that would make slackware probably the most bloated distro available [19:50] umm, not by far [19:51] like iwth any distro slackware can be trimmed down. more than most even. [19:51] the good thing is it even starts smaller than most [19:51] 5 gigs is not smaller than most [19:52] Installing the aaa_elflibs package covers a lot of the essential libraries you will need, if you do not install the "L" series [19:52] so trim it down. :P [19:53] elbeardmorez (n=elbeardm@78-86-149-244.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [19:53] BP{k}: that's the plan [19:54] wamaral (n=wamaral@unaffililated/macguyver) joined ##slackware. [19:54] dionysian: To get the full deal with Debian Lenny, which would be comparable to the way Slackware works, you'd need 6 dvds or 31 cds. [19:55] damn, 31 cds is huge :( [19:55] andarius: don't forget .. 31 committee approved cd's ;) [19:55] So no, Slackware isn't bloated compared to other distros. [19:55] that's hardly the point [19:56] what is the point? :) [19:56] waffles !! [19:56] with bacon!! [19:56] "The point is, you're a fool, Starscream!" [19:56] a standard installation of debian is not 6 dvds [19:56] Sorry, flashback. [19:56] it's not even a single dvd [19:56] And does it come with a complete devel environment? [19:57] you can install one [19:57] dionysian: the problem with debian is the quality of a few core packages, actually. [19:57] The -devel and -headers versions of all the packages included? [19:57] dionysian: postfix, httpd, and some other. [19:58] Four different window managers? (Or five, counting Compiz?) [19:58] "you can install one" .. so in other words .. "No, it doesn't" [19:58] why do you need five window managers? [19:58] BP{k}: bingo [19:58] Variety. [19:58] dionysian: why would you use only one window manager? [19:58] You can certainly prune a Slackware install down. [19:58] thumbs: i sometimes question why i would use one at all [19:59] Some people like KDE. Some like Fluxbox, or TWM, or XFCE. [19:59] Those are all easy to include, so Pat includes them. [19:59] dionysian: so use the CLI. [19:59] which is fine. there is nothing wrong with including them [19:59] KDE itself is an entirely different diskset, so you can deselect it on install. [20:00] So is KDEi, and emacs, and X and Xap... [20:00] right, and the individual packages of each set can be chosen, as well [20:00] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) left irc: "NOOOooooOooOooo, not THAT button!!! O_o" [20:01] yep. [20:02] We're not saying that, for example, the xfce plugins need KDE. [20:02] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) left irc: Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) [20:02] no wonder that crap didnt work for me :| [20:03] :P [20:03] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [20:03] Or that unrar needs X. [20:03] right, it doesn't [20:03] But, there is some level of "You should be able to tell what is needed for this" implicit in the packages. [20:04] jkwood: I disagree [20:04] i guess i'm wondering what you are saying... [20:04] If not, a full install is always recommended, followed by a careful trimming of the fat. [20:04] jkwood: the slack-desc files would get HUGE [20:04] thumbs: Exactly, which is why it's assumed that you'll probably know what's needed in most casess. [20:05] jkwood: that is expected from a slackware user. [20:05] Action: andarius expects beer :P [20:06] I have beer. [20:06] andarius: I am out, unfortunately [20:07] BP{k}: can you spare one mate? [20:07] colmcille (n=colmcill@78.32.184.48) joined ##slackware. [20:07] one of the reasons i chose slackware is that i don't want to install countless pieces of software that somebody else has decided should be packaged together [20:07] thumbs: sure, pop around ;) [20:08] BP{k}: thanks! [20:08] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Connection timed out [20:09] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:09] dionysian: I set up a kubuntu box yesterday, and ff3 required 20 or so packages. [20:09] dionysian: that is surely possible with slack. keep in mind jkwood's note and also some may need to be rebuilt to remove a dep you dont like [20:09] dionysian: I found that excessive [20:09] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:09] i have done a 12.1 install on a headless box with unde r100 pkgs and about 300 megs [20:10] thumbs: and that's why i don't want to use ubuntu [20:11] dionysian: not for me, so I don't really care [20:11] dionysian: it's for a new linux user. [20:11] I wouldn't want to alienate her [20:12] thumbs: By installing Ubuntu and being a Slackware user, you already have. ;) [20:12] what i basically want is this: the package set described here, plus the bare minimum packages to get sound working and maybe xfce -> http://slackwiki.org/Minimal_System [20:12] jkwood: she can't manage slackware. [20:13] * In the PACKAGE SERIES SELECTION screen, select package sets A, AP, D, F, K, L and N. [20:13] jkwood: perhaps, in a few years, I'll introduce her to slack [20:13] looks like it has one [20:14] i'm probably going to add some stuff like cvs and python [20:14] Alaisa (n=asdf@d83-181-37-120.cust.tele2.at) joined ##slackware. [20:14] when i fine tune the tagfiles [20:14] dionysian: Just as an observation from one of the Slackware devs... http://noobfarm.org/?id=1396 [20:14] andarius: it doesn't have any sound system [20:14] thumbs: Well, it's your decision man. Good luck with that. [20:15] jkwood: I will asses how well she can use linux, then a terminal. [20:15] Alaisa (n=asdf@d83-181-37-120.cust.tele2.at) left ##slackware. [20:15] assess too [20:15] jkwood: and if she likes linux/kde to begin with [20:16] jkwood: :) [20:16] dionysian: so it is less than what you want, and in my mind does not meet the definition "minimal" [20:16] in fact i would trim down what is given there [20:16] andarius: huh? [20:16] Wait... You put Ubuntu on there to introduce her to KDE? You, sir, are braver than I. [20:17] (##slackware) Channel ban on *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net expired. [20:17] ##slackware: mode change '-b *!*@cev75-4-82-247-118-210.fbx.proxad.net' by slackboy!n=thongson@li6-30.members.linode.com [20:17] of course that's minimal [20:17] jkwood: I have to admit KDE is a little more sluggish than usual [20:17] not by definition [20:17] yes, by definition [20:17] minimal +sound maybe [20:18] yeah, i want to take that and add sound [20:18] because it doesn't have sound [20:18] there in lies the fault in your earlier queestion. your definition of minimal suits "your" needs. not minimalistic [20:18] jkwood: you know well that slack will require editing config files at some point. I want to avoid that for now, until I can assess her competence level. [20:18] andarius: you're not making any sense [20:19] you said the link needs a list of packages. well it has one [20:19] of course it does [20:19] your desire is not included, so it would not fit being outlined there [20:19] ? [20:20] yup, i will elave it with that ... a ? [20:20] bahh [20:20] i just don't know what you're saying [20:20] Strykar_ (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) joined ##slackware. [20:21] I'd drop apmd, cryptseetup, device-mapper, elvis, floppy, lvm2, mdadm, reiserfsprogs, rpm2tgz, syslinux, and xfsprogs... and that's just from A on that list. ;) [20:21] pcmcia [20:22] jkwood: i'm going to fine tune it a bit [20:22] I would, but there's a possibility I might use it in the future. It could definitely be dropped, though. [20:23] frullet_ (n=hooch@124-170-205-120.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: "leaving" [20:23] heck for a minimal install .. why install F/ at all? [20:24] BP{k}: true [20:25] I've never actually seen somebody who managed to put together a complete "minimal" install of Slackware in list form. [20:25] I've met many who tried. [20:25] i had a list of my sub-100 install [20:25] everybody has different needs [20:25] it comes down to a lot of personal preferences [20:25] It just takes a greater understanding of the distro than most people have. [20:26] note i say had, up till some one stole my server :( [20:27] stole? [20:27] yup [20:27] andarius: the build i just linked probably has under 100 packages [20:27] jkwood: i'm going to add in some things, and probably take some away. [20:27] There wouldn't happen to be a way to have screen take over an active VT, would there? [20:28] jkwood: i'm basically just working on trying to figure out what packages to install for a soundsystem, and which to install to get xfce running [20:28] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.56.159.75) joined ##slackware. [20:28] For a sound system, alsa. [20:29] yeah [20:29] i marked alsa [20:29] Chymera1 (n=chymera@f051122205.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [20:30] anyone of you guys use winefish? I wonder if the spell check can also do highlighting [20:30] For xfce, most of X (minus xeyes and some of the fonts) and xfce from xap, along with whatever xfce apps you want. [20:30] MegafEee (n=WMaker@unaffiliated/megaf) left irc: "Leaving" [20:30] "most of X" [20:30] I could give a list, but that would take much time. [20:30] And, I could be wrong. [20:31] In any case, I have company, so I'll be going away for the evening. [20:31] Good luck. :) [20:31] take care [20:31] thanks [20:31] Chymera1 : and you're asking this both in #suse and #slackware at the same time? [20:32] ananke: you usally spend time in both those channels? weired :P [20:32] I wonder if I should have used suse instead of kubuntu on her laptop [20:32] thumbs: should have used slackware [20:32] I'm just having a major issue with this and since it's not necessarily distro-dependent I thought I might ask in some distro channels, since the guys in latex seem to be asleep [20:33] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [20:34] dionysian: as I said, the end user is not familiar with linux. [20:34] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-30-251.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [20:34] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:35] thumbs: you don't really have to be [20:35] hi, i used slackbuilds.org to make and install nvidia kernel and nvidia drivers. what do i need to change in my x config? [20:36] dionysian: some operations still require editing config files. [20:36] screennameless (n=screenna@pool-70-109-90-81.hag.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:37] that requires familarity with text [20:37] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl11-30-251.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Client Quit [20:37] which has not been established yet [20:37] that's pretty rough [20:37] so I either throw the new user in a completely different environment, or go halfway [20:38] I chose the latter. [20:38] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.75.238) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:38] Nick change: Strykar_ -> Strykar [20:38] at some point something is going to break [20:38] [Arch_Slax]Draco (n=Draco@121.70.214.205) joined ##slackware. [20:38] sure. I can fix it for her then [20:39] it won't be too frequent, I hope [20:39] wouldn't you rather fix a slack box? :D [20:40] it's not mine, so this is what I think: [20:40] for my box, I wouldn't use anything but slackware. [20:40] I'll let the user decide what she likes better. It's her computer, after all. 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[20:43] i had two computers, one windows and the other with no os. but i only had one power cord. so i had to use dialup on the windows computer to get a floppy disk worth of data, then turn it off [20:43] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: "ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]" [20:43] .... wow [20:43] figure out what else i needed, boot up the other computer, get another floppy worth [20:45] i didn't know anything about linux other than it was "kind of like dos, except you say ls instead of dir" [20:46] granted apt made things pretty simple [20:48] edman007|work (n=edman007@ool-44c286d0.dyn.optonline.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:49] blkdg (n=chatzill@CPE00c09fc47771-CM00195ee3976e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. [20:50] ls [20:50] . [20:50] .. [20:51] heh [20:53] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: "leaving" [20:54] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. 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[20:59] copland: i dunno... macs are pretty much the opposite of free [21:00] you can send me a mac and i will find a test a few for you [21:01] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [21:01] Oh I cant find the settings to chang osx internet sharing [21:02] once iget the mac from you i can figure that out as well ;) [21:03] Pig_Pen (n=Rip_Van_@24-117-12-214.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:04] well they moved shit since 10.4 [21:04] you use to be able to define the range the mac handes out ips [21:04] CyberS0nic (n=CyberS0n@189.79.95.145) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:05] LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-219-149.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:05] razel (n=rpg@CPE000fb5dad35f-CM00152fba8904.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:06] razel (n=rpg@CPE000fb5dad35f-CM00152fba8904.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined ##slackware. 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[21:19] because it sucks [21:20] it used to, but it was becoming very tough for Pat to maintain [21:20] i know it sucks [21:20] thrice`: ah ok [21:20] i think gnome only sucks a little bit more than kde, though [21:21] Action: NyteOwl prefers GNOME to KDE [21:21] charle97 (n=c@udp010935uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [21:21] gnome would be a lot better if it wasn't so sanitized [21:21] well whatever works is fine by me really [21:23] everyone has their own preference [21:23] sanitized? [21:23] he probably means 'lacking in options' [21:25] never fund it particularly lacking, but as you say - to each their own. I seldom use a DE anyway, I just preger G to K [21:26] s/fund/found/ & s/preger/prefer/ [21:27] bbiab [21:27] NyteOwl (n=sysop@unaffiliated/nyteowl) left irc: [21:27] i put ubuntu on my parents pc by mistake once, i know what he means by 'sanitized', eventualy i gave up and put slackware, tweaked up kde, and they havent asked me a question ever since, worked out for me :) [21:28] good night from me anyway.. [21:28] whats that web clipboard site? [21:28] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [21:31] like http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/ ? [21:31] http://rafb.net/paste [21:32] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: Client Quit [21:34] othermindszine (n=othermin@171.sub-75-216-37.myvzw.com) left irc: "Where ever you may be, be well. Namarië." [21:35] [Arch_Slax]Draco (n=Draco@121.70.214.205) left irc: "{{„p†, c‚{{„e" [21:35] if you goto the url http://rafb.net/p/mXZZyt33.html could you tell me if there are any programs there I can terminate to save cpu? [21:36] copland (n=copland-@c-68-56-150-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:37] ... [21:37] java, X, firefox, mirc [21:37] O.o [21:37] init [21:37] lol [21:37] rworkman: I was not going there ;) [21:38] pirvings: why are you running mirc.exe? [21:38] pirvings: don't try that - it's a bad joke :) [21:38] Action: rworkman wonders if that one will hit noobfarm [21:38] i donno, i like the large font. I'm lying in bed. I could make my terminal font bigger, but I forgot how to save it in konsole [21:39] Even laziness is not an excuse for mirc. [21:39] pirvings (n=talkingt@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: [21:39] "settings" -> Save as default... [21:39] it never is. [21:39] mirc should never be used. [21:40] heck, even x-chat can change the font. And it's much better than mirc [21:40] pirving (n=john@cpe-74-75-45-156.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [21:40] I figured out how to save the default profile in konsole [21:40] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [21:40] yah [21:40] geoff_k (n=geoff_k_@cpc3-asht4-0-0-cust917.asfd.cable.ntl.com) left irc: Connection timed out [21:41] yay-o [21:41] antler (n=antler@unaffiliated/antler) joined ##slackware. [21:41] cocain, also called yay-o [21:41] irssi > * [21:41] Action: pirving misspelled cocaine [21:41] irssi kicks ass, I used to use this and tin [21:42] then Time Warner took away newsgroupls [21:42] yayo? what are ya stuck in the 80s? :P [21:42] newsgroups [21:42] anyone run a news server? [21:42] that would be awesome if someone did [21:42] I guess I'll have to shell out the money to pay for newsgroups [21:43] netnews [21:43] whatever [21:47] cap (n=cap@63.149.173.1) joined ##slackware. [21:51] I have 12.2 box to a KVM connected to an LCD that uses 1680x1050 and video card is Intel Corporation 82945G I probably need to rebuild the xorg.conf file and need some pointers. Anyone? [21:52] Just using 1024x768 now... so it's not so good. [21:53] cap: so add the proper resolution to the config file, and restart X [21:55] dionysian (n=dionysia@c-68-50-172-72.hsd1.md.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:57] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-143-231-251.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [22:00] NyteOwl (i=nodezero@unaffiliated/nyteowl) joined ##slackware. [22:00] Action: NyteOwl has returned [22:01] no you havent, you just think you have :P [22:01] heh [22:01] its all an illusion [22:01] we'll I'm here as much as I ever am :) [22:01] there is no spoon !! [22:02] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:02] screennameless (n=screenna@pool-70-109-90-81.hag.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:04] "how can you have your pudding, if you have no spoon!" [22:04] Action: rworkman runs into the wall. [22:05] thumbs: I tried this one: http://rafb.net/p/6aE5aM63.html but X server just hangs. [22:05] rworkman++ :) [22:06] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:06] cap: I don't like that way of configuring X [22:06] thumbs: What do you suggest? [22:07] "X -configure" ? [22:07] Modes "1440x900" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" [22:07] dusty (n=dusty@88-105-107-171.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined ##slackware. [22:07] rworkman: yes, that's what I used. [22:07] cap: put them all in one line. [22:07] thumbs: Ok [22:08] cap: also, each bit depth should have Modes [22:08] cap: and the config routine hangs? [22:08] cap: the point being that you can 'fallback' to a lower resolution, if the highest one fail [22:08] s/fail/fails/ [22:09] cap: those modes are for a 15" wide screen laptop, by the way. Adapt to your hardware [22:10] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=Nikolai-@201.20.64.142) joined ##slackware. [22:10] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=Nikolai-@201.20.64.142) left irc: Client Quit [22:10] Mine is a 22" LCD desktop [22:10] cap: the principle is the same [22:10] cap: you must enumerate the resolutions it supports. [22:10] And the only one I know that will work is 1680x1050 [22:11] cap: I'm sure you can do 1024/768? [22:11] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=Nikolai-@201.20.64.142) joined ##slackware. [22:11] thumbs: Yes, am doing it now [22:11] cap: then use that as a fallback resolution. [22:11] thumbs: Using 1024x768 now [22:12] Gargantua (n=sk@S01060016b60647ad.cg.shawcable.net) left irc: Success [22:12] Action: pirving is listening to frank zappa - jezebell boy [22:13] pirving: that's wonderful. [22:13] pirving: can you turn off that script? [22:13] So: Modes "1680x1050" "1024x768" ? [22:13] like that? [22:13] yes. [22:14] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:14] cap: keep in mind that KDE can query the hardware to get the list of valid resolutions. [22:14] cap: as such, you should not need to enumerate them all in your config file. [22:15] aperturefever (n=abell@athedsl-196896.home.otenet.gr) left irc: "Freedom is secured not by the fulfilling of one's desires, but by the removal of desire. So to a mind that is still, the whol [22:16] thumbs: Yes, KDE might be able to query the hardware but problem is, I don't think it can get through this old KVM switch. And that is the problem here, (more than likely). [22:17] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [22:17] cap: ah. [22:17] cap: then you must enumerate the supported resolutions. [22:17] Nikolai-Zanovsk (n=Nikolai-@201.20.64.142) left irc: "Leaving" [22:18] I'm going to try. 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[23:30] hmm NaCl - just what I need for the ice in my drieveway :) [23:30] Action: twolf grabs his 12 gauge [23:31] Action: NyteOwl has 2 12 ga takedowns to clean up a bit for sale this summer [23:31] twolf: zombies? :P [23:31] Action: edman007 dissolves NaCl in water [23:31] Action: NaCl is now known as Na+ and Cl- [23:31] foldingstock: you can never be too safe [23:31] keveam (n=kevin@24-182-224-178.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left ##slackware ("Konversation terminated!"). [23:32] edman007: he's still there, though. he's never really gone [23:32] can't get rid of NaCl [23:32] he just won't go.... [23:32] antler, well once you disolve him, hit him with a taser and he will die [23:33] You tried that already. [23:33] i say just freeze him and prop him up somewhere... [23:35] NaCl is a solid a room temperature. [23:36] NaCl, but NaCl does melt if you heat it enough...its often used as a very high temp coolant [23:36] sprinkle on a slug [23:36] edman007: Cool. I learned something today [23:36] hey i used to do that, but with worms... [23:37] j0z (n=JESUS@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:38] Hitting that dissolved NaCl with electrical current isn't the best idea though - I'd rather not deal with the chlorine gas... [23:38] NaCl, yea, at very high temps it remains a liquid, it has a very high specific heat, and is excellent at stopping air from getting to very hot metal (which rusts instantly in contact to air) [23:39] NaCl, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor [23:39] stef_204 (n=stef@unaffiliated/stef-204/x-384198) joined ##slackware. [23:39] Far out. [23:40] rworkman: or the oure sodiu either :) [23:40] er pure sodium [23:40] NaCl, and i was looking its also used as a dry chemical fire extinguisher [23:41] NyteOwl: it oxidizes pretty quickly in air, IIRC [23:41] yes but is explosive in contact with water [23:41] Drgb (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) joined ##slackware. [23:42] Not too violently, also IIRC. [23:42] NyteOwl, NaCl pure sodium is just very reactive with water, it will react with the water in the air [23:42] quite violently. it breaks the h-o bonds and the resultant heat ignites the resultant hydgogen gas [23:43] NyteOwl, and its possible to build up a lot of H2 and then ignite it :P [23:43] I don't know too much about chemistry. [23:43] we got a demonstration of that in high school chemistry lab, had Beavis for a teacher [23:43] how tha heck would you split NaCl anyway? [23:43] indeed it is. one reason it hasn't been used in automotive fuel cells before now [23:43] BOFH__ (n=berserk@host81-87-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [23:44] Yeah, won't get pure sodium there -- will get NaOH [23:45] mooglenorph (n=marco@173.9.7.10) joined ##slackware. [23:45] rworkman, last night i spent a lot of reading in that direction... [23:46] Action: NaCl has somehow turned ##slackware into Chemistry 101 [23:46] edman007: reading that shit for fun? [23:46] dump NaCl in water, zap it, and then you can collect the Cl2, and then put olive oil in the water, heat it, dump it out, and you now have soap! [23:46] does anyone here know how to make LSD? [23:46] lol [23:46] pirving, i read the recipe a few times...i don't really feel like trying LSD though, lol [23:47] pirving, very complicated though [23:47] I've read some internet recipe's I need a college student taking organic chemistry [23:47] not easy to get the components any more [23:47] i'm more interested in making my own soap now :P [23:47] twolf, no, its easy... [23:47] andarius (n=andarius@c-98-192-3-170.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "there are a few things id like to know before i die... such as does she look good in a thong" [23:47] they live here in Maine they goto Farmington University of Maine [23:47] antler: Might want to get a fume hood. Cl2 is a bit dealdly [23:48] twolf, it can be extracted from mold found in your house using household cleaners [23:48] NaCl: chemistry scares me in general [23:48] soap is pretty easy [23:48] gm152 (n=glen@d121-140-120.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [23:49] yeah I have had stuff made from mold and it pales in comparison to old school chemistry made stuff [23:51] hashed_ (n=hashed_@ip70-178-108-166.ks.ks.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [23:52] what do you guys (and/or girls) think about zenwalk? [23:52] never heard of it [23:52] It's not Slackware. [23:52] twolf, heh, from what i was reading it looks like it is extremely potent, and thus is reduced down a LOT, whatever you had may have just been different additives, but from what i was reading its fairly easy to get 95%+ concentrations of the stuff, and a large dose is only a few hundred ug, so just one drop makes hundreds to thousands of doses [23:53] hashed_, not slackware [23:53] seems to be heavily claimed that it is based on slackware [23:53] hashed_, based on slack != slack [23:53] hashed_: I will endorse slackware [23:53] If it is not named Slackware, then it is not Slackware [23:53] i noticed the newest dev release added PAM [23:54] i know a lot of people hate pam : [23:54] :P [23:54] nothing wrong with PAM [23:54] i realize it is not slackware, but I was asking for opinions. [23:55] having trouble determining: does slackware 12.2 come with Xulrunner? [23:55] hashed_, slack for 32-bit, slamd64 if you need 64-bit [23:55] opinions about fruit in a body shop? [23:56] edman007: i've been using slackware 12.2 on my laptop and love it. [23:56] poona (n=poona@unaffiliated/poona) joined ##slackware. [23:56] hashed_: I haven't ever used xenwalk, so I wouldn't know [23:56] pirving: LSD wouldn't be the easiest thing to make. Pick something easier. Crystal meth would be much easier. [23:56] antler, fruit tastes fruity [23:56] BOFH (n=berserk@unaffiliated/bofh) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:56] hashed_: or rather, have an opinion [23:57] Re soap, yeah, almost braindead simple. [23:57] ok, fair enough :) [23:57] meth is evil. [23:58] lsd, on the other hand... [23:58] hehe [23:58] lol [23:58] rworkman, the one that i really want to make, because it looks fun is Nitrogen triiodide, its super awesome [23:58] j0z (n=JESUS@187.5.60.43) joined ##slackware. [23:58] edman007: indeed it is. [23:58] Easy, but tricky to make. Some luck involved :) [23:58] edman007: what is that used for? [23:59] its super explosive and super unstable, so much so that its very dificult to make a dangerous quantity [23:59] It's a shock sensitive explosive [23:59] *gulp* [23:59] antler, you can make it and put it on stuff, it pops if you touch it [23:59] sweet [23:59] shock/impact/motion/whatever [23:59] Nitrogylcerine has a similar effect [23:59] Unless you freeze it. [23:59] yikes. [23:59] In larger quantities, IIRC. [23:59] ever see the movie "Wages of Fear"? [00:00] --- Sun Mar 1 2009