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[00:26] I'll use lilo till it stops working [00:26] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [00:26] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:26] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [00:26] ok [00:26] lol... [00:27] I use grub and/or lilo as circumstances require [00:27] gm152 (n=gm@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:28] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [00:28] i use ntldr -> lilo :-/ [00:28] eww huh? [00:29] slackwarebob (n=bobby@adsl-76-249-237-247.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [00:29] Hello People. [00:30] hello person [00:30] hello human [00:30] fhobia: How do you know slackwarebob is human? :) [00:31] thats true, he could be a cave man huh ??? [00:31] oh [00:31] or a bot. 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[00:40] to play mp3s you can use amarok, audacious, or xmms [00:40] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/libraries/libdvdcss/ [00:41] or amp, mpg123, mpg321 [00:41] oh thats where libdvcss is. thanks you two [00:41] or madplay [00:41] woohoo thanks guys [00:41] very fast helpful support [00:41] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@cpe-173-095-153-076.nc.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [00:41] moc for the win though [00:41] 8) [00:42] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [00:42] isn't moc that complicated one? [00:42] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [00:42] where you type in cmoc or something to make the screen open or whatever in cli? [00:43] nope [00:43] just type mocp and then use arrow keys and tab to play your files [00:43] yeah mocp thats what i was talking about [00:43] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [00:43] why do they change the name of the package and the binary file differently? [00:44] it seems theres already a "moc" [00:44] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:44] sometimes i accidentally type moc and it just sits there stuck [00:44] probably some program expecting input [00:44] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [00:44] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) left irc: Client Quit [00:44] moc is the only app that i know of that doesn't use the same command as its package name [00:44] no man page for it and i can't tell what it does from the options... [00:45] y0 Rat409 [00:45] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) got lost in the net-split. [00:46] Axius (n=fd@92.84.31.128) joined ##slackware. [00:47] well thanks for all the help. peace. im outtie [00:47] NTU (n=jason@c-68-53-183-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Ubuntu... great for Linux gurus with lots of time on their hands to FIX THE DAMN THING!" 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[00:52] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Excess Flood [00:52] cmeow (i=cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) left irc: Excess Flood [00:52] cmeow (i=cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [00:52] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [00:52] well, as i said i have the first 2, will that be enough to get slackware installed properly (i am going to be using xfce btw) [00:52] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:52] fire|bird: hey,sorry had to do something for a few [00:52] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [00:53] i'm the "i loathe debian bloke from last night" [00:53] Rat409: no worries. :) How's it going? [00:53] cmeow (i=cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) left irc: Excess Flood [00:54] good,thanks,yourself? i see kde4 has upgrades @distrowatch [00:54] cmeow (i=cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [00:54] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [00:54] doing great, thanks. [00:54] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Excess Flood [00:54] bazzled: yes, that should be enough. CD3 contains KDE/KDEI alone .. so you don't need that. [00:54] cmeow (i=cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) left irc: Excess Flood [00:54] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [00:54] cmeow (i=cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [00:55] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Excess Flood [00:55] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. George Carlin" [00:55] cmeow (i=cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) left irc: Excess Flood [00:55] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [00:55] ok the install menus were making me a little nervous, I am not used to the slackware format and find it a little bewildering (all those choices) . I think i'll hit the sack and install tomorrow, it looks like just picking the software will be a major project [00:56] bazzled: let me give you a couple of tips before you go. [00:56] but is the last 3 discs all source code or is that source as in packages....???? [00:56] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:56] cmeow_ (i=cmeow@happy.happy.vhost.shellium.org) joined ##slackware. [00:56] bazzled: source code .. it's all the source stuff that is used to make the packages on the first three cd's [00:56] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:57] bazzled: as for installing .. go with a full install. Especially ifg you are new, you can trim down later. trust me on this. [00:57] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [00:57] bazzled: also .. run /topic and bookmark all the links and read them. Especially I can recommend http://slackbook.org and http://slackbasics.org [00:57] bazzled: ya, you should have downloaded the dvd like you were told yesterday. Full install, trim later. [00:58] new to slackware (again!) (it was the first linux i ever tried back in 1999), but not new to linux ... [00:58] bazzled: what did you run before? [00:58] agentcore: i dont have a dvd drive [00:59] bp(k), : debian, xubuntu, simplymepis [01:00] what window manager comes with xubuntu bazzled? [01:00] pupit: xfce [01:01] bazzled: ;) [01:01] alright, gotta go ta you lot, time to go to fscking sleep [01:01] bazzled (n=baz@D-69-91-149-27.dhcp4.washington.edu) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [01:04] jg71_ (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) joined ##slackware. [01:06] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) joined ##slackware. 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[01:21] jg71 (n=edud@unaffiliated/jg71) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:21] ovnicraft: grep -v '^#' /etc/slackpkg/mirrors [01:21] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Excess Flood [01:22] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:22] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Excess Flood [01:22] ups [01:22] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:22] ups? [01:22] http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/pub/slackware/slackware-13.0/ [01:22] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Excess Flood [01:23] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Excess Flood [01:23] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:23] ovnicraft: and read to me the last bit? .. you know the distro and version? [01:23] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:23] or rather .. can you care to explain to me; why you think that "slackware-13.0" and "slackware64-13.0" are one and the same? [01:24] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Excess Flood [01:24] mistake [01:24] stupid error [01:24] quite. [01:24] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:24] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:25] i was using gsb, but current really sucks i am resintalling my S64 [01:25] another club member [01:25] BP{k}: Maybe we should start a mirror club - the one where you're automatically joined when you use the wrong mirror :) [01:25] alisonken1noc: hahaha [01:26] ovnicraft: current doesn't suck at all. It runs quite well here. [01:26] and I've been running it on a work and home desktops as well as a laptop just fine [01:27] ovnicraft: so what didn't work for you? [01:27] i have problems with desktop, it locked itself [01:27] and X freeze [01:27] i cant work [01:28] i really love gnome but i need to work [01:30] ovnicraft: and is GSB for -current? [01:31] yes [01:31] well frankly if you need to do work, you shouldn't run -current anyway. [01:31] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.76.181) joined ##slackware. [01:32] also -current actually kind of asumes you know what you are doing. [01:32] yes, so it was working ok for 3 months [01:33] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:33] errors was acceptable but then crash [01:33] Xires (n=Xires@66-190-79-122.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [01:35] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Excess Flood [01:35] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Excess Flood [01:35] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:35] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [01:35] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:36] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [01:37] why are you running -current anyways? [01:37] http://blogs.computerworld.com/15487/anything_the_ipad_can_do_linux_can_do_better [01:37] so i just read that article.. i'm wondering what you guys think [01:38] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Excess Flood [01:38] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:43] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:43] i know, i do like their hardware alot [01:43] i upgrade firefox, and 3.6 was installed when open it just appears a widget without options, upgraded from http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/slackware/slackware64-13.0/, i can solve this? [01:43] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [01:43] and every time linux gets released on a device out of the box [01:44] it seems to fall flat on its face for reasons that we're all pretty aware of [01:44] i run it from console but dont see errors [01:44] well since osx is based of bsd, i'm sure anything linux can do so can osx if they decide to implement it. i'm sure it wouldn't be that hard. [01:44] s/of/off [01:45] ovnicraft: are you running slackware64? [01:45] yes [01:45] recently fresh installation [01:45] and that's a fresh install after your earlier wrong mirror use? [01:46] i fixed , update before upgrade [01:46] the update only updates the package list, the upgrade does not always remove packages that are left over [01:46] the error with mirrors was with piding now is running ok [01:46] ovnicraft: i suggest you do slackpkg clean-system [01:47] also - firefox 3.6 is for -current, and you're not running -current [01:47] alisonken1noc: uhm .. not true. [01:47] patches/packages/mozilla-firefox-3.6-x86_64-1_slack13.0.txz: Upgraded. [01:47] try /sbin/ldconfig maybe? [01:48] I stand corrected - I missed the patches :) [01:48] Rat409: shouldn't be need as that gets called by installpkg anyway. [01:48] Is hddtemp working here? Should I trust the reported value of 46-48 C? [01:48] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [01:49] ovnicraft: ls -la /var/log/packages/mozilla-firefox* [01:50] mozilla-firefox-3.6-x86_64-1_slack13.0 [01:51] so i get the latest [01:51] http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010012703135NWRLAP [01:51] here's a good one [01:51] apparently these guys protested drm'ed content on the ipad [01:52] Axius (n=fd@92.84.31.128) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:53] BP{k}, there is a problem with the pkg? [01:53] ovnicraft: I don't know. Shouldn't be. FF 3.6 runs fine here. [01:54] ovnicraft: try renaming your .mozilla folder for your user. [01:54] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [01:56] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Client Quit [01:56] agentc0re, did it dont solve the problem [01:57] everybody using the new personas feature? :-D [01:57] hell no [01:57] rofl [01:57] haha [01:57] we needed personas to fix some security issue right? [01:58] haha [01:58] darkwurm_ (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [01:58] what is that? [01:58] ovnicraft: create a temp user, try FF with that user. [01:58] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:59] anyother awesome features in 3.6 ? [02:00] Nick change: KeanuReeves -> Kiboney [02:00] fhobia: just what we need, a browser with MPD ;) [02:00] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:00] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:01] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [02:01] agentc0re, it works with another user [02:02] i need to remove .mozilla? [02:03] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:03] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) joined ##slackware. [02:03] MrHales (n=MrHales@12.24.239.145) left irc: "http://wwandi.com -- Still not ready for prime time." [02:04] ovnicraft: no need to remove it if you already renamed it. one at a time rename .local, .kde and .cache. after you rename one, run FF. if it is still not working, rename whatever back to the original name until you've found the culprit. [02:04] earp_child (n=Dirty@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) joined ##slackware. [02:04] i am doing that, so if is necesary i delete all .* [02:06] yeah.. just do a rm -rf * [02:07] god.. even typing that in an irc chat seems intimidating [02:07] no - rm -rf .* - leave the rest of the files alone [02:07] don't forget the leading dot [02:07] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: "just to eat" [02:07] fhobia: not to mention could get you kickbanned if the ops see it. [02:07] and don't forget to log out/log in after that to reset your desktop [02:07] o_o [02:07] uhm fhobia disregard. [02:07] what exactly would happen if you did forget the dot? [02:07] oh ok, thought you were talking about personas again [02:07] lol [02:07] functionoverform: that was for you. [02:07] lol [02:07] lol [02:08] fhobia: they should!!! [02:08] i wasn't serious... at al [02:08] do delete every file/directory in your home directory, not just the config information [02:08] ouch. [02:09] it's happened to pretty much everyone here at least once [02:09] and some on / [02:09] yeps. [02:10] Action: BP{k} done it one on /etc/* on a production server \: [02:10] doh [02:10] yeah, boss wasn't too impressed. [02:10] oh man [02:10] that's rough... [02:10] instead of removing *~ I accidently entered * ~ [02:12] lol [02:12] BP{k}: speaking of that, i actually just did "find . -type f -name "*~" -exec rm {} \;" glad i didn't typo. [02:12] :P [02:12] functionoverform: regardless of being serious, it's best to be careufl nd usually put commands like that between quotes (" "), you never know if someone accidently cut and paste the irc buffer into a term. [02:12] BP{k}: those damn backup files. ;) [02:13] agentc0re: 1) alias 2) 'set nobackup' in your .vimrc ;) [02:14] nobackup stops those retarded .swp files from showing up ? [02:14] i wouldn't be surprised if the reason he quit is because he did do it and his pc is now a huge pile of fail.. [02:14] BP{k}: it was kates fault... she's a biotch like that. :P [02:14] BP{k}: alias for what though? [02:14] like my first wife said: "Life's a bitch and so am I" [02:15] agentc0re: alias "clean='find .....'" [02:15] fhobia: yup. it's nice. Or change your backup directory for vim. keep the files, just in a ~/.vim/tmp folder or something. [02:15] BP{k}: ah, i see where you're going with that. [02:15] BP{k}: that's a great idea.. *click click click... :P [02:16] agentc0re: I think you'll find it was "clicketyclick" ;) [02:16] heh [02:16] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) joined ##slackware. [02:17] ovnicraft: so, the answer was NO do not do a "rm -rf .*" [02:17] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:17] agentc0re: cool [02:18] oh man, i already had that in my file [02:18] hmm must not have it for root [02:18] logout , rename .local, .kde solve it [02:23] earp_child (n=Dirty@72-4-87-94.gncsin06.customers.broadreach.net) left irc: Client Quit [02:27] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [02:27] confusid (n=confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:30] StonedSlacker (n=StonedSl@cpe-024-074-031-061.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:30] StonedSlacker (n=StonedSl@cpe-024-074-031-061.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [02:34] doomey (n=doomey@188.24.77.78) joined ##slackware. [02:34] simplex (n=simplex@twopenguins.it) left irc: "Reconnecting" [02:34] simplex (n=simplex@twopenguins.it) joined ##slackware. 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[02:48] doomey (n=doomey@188.24.77.78) joined ##slackware. [02:56] oh hey, alisonken1noc, i was looking up that thing about linux 32bit systems crashing in 2038 [02:57] and i came across some craaazy stuff about this time traveler guy, quite an entertaining read. [02:57] like, it should be a science fiction novel [02:57] emphasis on fiction [02:57] only the ibm 5100 from 1975 can save us lol [02:57] hah [02:58] what were you reading about the guy? [02:58] link? [02:58] yeah, gimme 2 seconds [02:58] i'll run upstairs and grab the full link from 01 [02:59] http://www.anomalies.net/object/titororiginalpost.html [03:00] it actually took me a bit to find the full post, i read a bbc news article about this first [03:00] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) left irc: "Leaving" [03:01] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:01] awh man.. [03:02] alisonken1noc2 (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. 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[03:04] nomalies.net - got it [03:04] anomalies.net rather [03:04] Axius_ (n=fd@92.82.80.146) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:06] yeah [03:06] its a really huge post [03:06] that someone actually adapted to a novel somehow [03:07] Rat409 (n=rat@bb-205-209-66-99.gwi.net) left irc: "=" [03:07] it just brings up some good points about how we live, i mean, i wouldn't say i believe in it or anything, i just like the dude's perspective in his posts [03:08] brokendrink (n=c99@c-24f9e253.015-77-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) joined ##slackware. [03:09] actually, a terminator like movie would be sweet.. post ww3 time travelers.. ripping through space time between two micro-singularities in a 500lb machine!? [03:11] back in a few [03:11] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:11] dchmelik (n=d@dynamic-216-227-6-29.ellensburg.fairpoint.net) joined ##slackware. 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[03:30] dios_mio: You'd be better off installing flash from slackbuilds.org instead of going through that prompt: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.0/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/ [03:30] confusid (n=confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:30] thanks man [03:31] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [03:35] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [03:42] birdlives (n=birdlive@96.240.50.121) left irc: "Leaving" [03:43] Is there a place where I can put a module to be unloaded, and reloaded when I suspend to ram? [03:45] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:48] dios_mio (i=1000@88.241.133.222) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:50] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:52] byteframe, write a pm hook [03:52] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: "Leaving" [03:53] byteframe, for instance, cp /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules /etc/pm/sleep.d/ [03:53] byteframe, then edit it. the one in /etc will be called [03:53] slava_dp, cool beans. thanks. [03:54] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.191.224.178) joined ##slackware. [03:54] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [03:55] byteframe, eh, no, not really. gotta copy /usr/lib/pm-utils/defaults and edit this one. [03:56] i suspect you should copy it to /etc/pm/config.d and specify SUSPEND_MODULES [03:56] you're right. was wondering why the variable wasn't there. 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[04:48] well, i think its just a lack of ram [04:48] and i should probably create a swap partition or swap file at this point [04:49] i was trying to do alot of things at once [04:49] and it was crawling [04:49] but it just stopped a couple minutes ago [04:50] you should create a swap partition [04:50] (or file, but i recommend partition) [04:51] everyone does.. lol, i just don't know what the hell i'm doing, becase every other distro i've installed has a default layout that includes a swap partition by default [04:51] and i'm very new to slack [04:51] i used cfdisk, but i just created one logical volume [04:51] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Connection timed out [04:52] ok, first off, please /msg me your partition arrangement [04:52] i left 40gb not partitioned though [04:52] AcEg33k (i=1000@59.161.144.110) joined ##slackware. [04:52] are you in cfdisk now? [04:52] no. [04:53] i'm talking to you on the machine [04:53] that needs to be partitioned. [04:53] ok, and are you using xchat? [04:53] yes [04:53] ok, open an xterm [04:54] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-71-174-5-22.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [04:57] _slax0r_ (i=fire@2001:15c0:66ca:0:0:0:0:b4) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:57] done. [04:57] _slax0r_ (i=fire@2001:15c0:66ca:4:1:2:8:9) joined ##slackware. [04:57] lol.. i wasn't sure if typing xterm in konsole would work, but it did! [04:58] why not? just another program in the path :) [04:59] ok, so i've got this layout [04:59] _slax0r_ (i=fire@2001:15c0:66ca:4:1:2:8:9) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:00] _slax0r_ (i=fire@2001:15c0:66ca:4:1:2:8:9) joined ##slackware. [05:00] hda5 boot logical linux ext3 [05:00] hda6 logical linux [05:00] ok sorry [05:00] ok, do you have any primary partitions? [05:00] would it by labeled primary? [05:00] be* [05:01] um you can have up to four primary partitions or three plus an extended partition area, it's just the way drives work [05:01] brb i have something on the stove [05:01] of course sir [05:01] primary partitions are 1-4, anything higher are logical partitions [05:01] well.. there's only 2 partitions [05:02] but they're labeled hda5 and hda6 for some reason [05:02] both roughly 1/2 of my 80gb hdd [05:02] but they're both logical [05:02] those are the only partitions? [05:02] yes [05:03] if you're starting from scratch, delete and remake primary partitions [05:03] StonedSlacker (n=StonedSl@cpe-024-074-031-061.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [05:03] hmm.. well.. let me think here.. i do like the way this thing is now.. [05:03] i mean, it works fine [05:03] except it crashes when i multitask too heavily [05:04] so just create another partition (primary or extended) and then mkswap /dev/hda-whatever [05:04] i really don't wanna start from scratch, if its possible to avoid [05:04] then swapon /dev/hda-whatever [05:04] you won't have to start over at all [05:04] have to change type to 82 before mkswap [05:04] _slax0r_ (i=fire@2001:15c0:66ca:4:1:2:8:9) left irc: Client Quit [05:05] _slax0r_ (i=fire@2001:15c0:66ca:4:1:2:8:9) joined ##slackware. [05:05] yeah sorry forgot that detail 8-) [05:05] ok.. so [05:06] how do you edit your KDE menu [05:06] i should start by creating a swap partition... [05:06] dios_mio, kmenuedit i think [05:06] functionoverform, yes [05:06] thanks man [05:07] dios_mio, no problem [05:07] so..i deleted the partition that i'm not using at this moment [05:08] primary or logical? [05:08] i thought swap.. [05:08] was a separate option [05:09] functionoverform: make it logical for swap partition [05:10] _slax0r_ (i=fire@2001:15c0:66ca:4:1:2:8:9) left irc: Client Quit [05:10] now i don't understand how to change the type [05:10] i go to type, in cfdisk [05:10] _slax0r_ (i=fire@slackware.x-shells.org) joined ##slackware. [05:10] functionoverform: type=82 [05:10] and i try to change it to 82... but when i type 82 it displays a different screen [05:11] ohk [05:11] swap is just another partition - in cfdisk, create partition, then highlight partition, then select "Type" [05:11] ah [05:11] that worked [05:11] ok [05:11] thanks guys [05:11] lol, but i think i gotta start over... roughly 39 gigs is a little much lol [05:12] functionoverform: how much space have you given to your swap partiton? [05:12] far too much, sir [05:12] old school was 2xram [05:12] 39gb [05:12] yeah, so i should go with 1024 mb [05:12] yes, 2xram [05:13] haha [05:13] upyr[emacs] (n=user@79.174.50.208) joined ##slackware. [05:13] functionoverform: your ram size? [05:13] 512 [05:13] functionoverform: 512? [05:13] yeah [05:13] functionoverform: ok, go for 1gb [05:14] why does it gently change my values [05:14] from 1024 for 1019.04 [05:14] seems a little wierd to me [05:14] but i'm sure that's plenty [05:14] functionoverform: it's ok [05:16] while i'm doing this, do anything useful with that ~38 gigs of free space? [05:16] i left it there in case i made some sort of error.. which turned out to work out in my favor, or i wouldn't have been able to do this [05:17] functionoverform: you can mount it to your home later [05:17] ok [05:17] reboot time [05:17] brb [05:18] functionoverform (n=mranders@adsl-76-224-78-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [05:18] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [05:23] functionoverform (n=mranders@adsl-76-224-78-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [05:23] well, all appears to be well [05:23] functionoverform: :) [05:24] StonedSlacker (n=StonedSl@cpe-024-074-031-061.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:24] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-199-241.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:25] toastytoast (n=toast@cpe-74-75-198-155.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [05:26] thanks again AcEg33k and alisonken1noc [05:26] functionoverform: np [05:26] are all distros the same in that respect? [05:27] meaning, do they all have cfdisk? [05:27] functionoverform: yes [05:27] cool. [05:27] not all distros provide cfdisk [05:27] no? [05:28] i've used the fedora and ubuntu installers, and from what i can remember, both of them are not manually controlled at all, but then again i would've selected the easiest, or most automated options when installing them [05:28] Zordrak: which one do not provide them? minimalistic ones? [05:29] dngr (n=dngr@n112118168098.netvigator.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:29] not all, but the major ones do [05:30] fdisk or their equivalents [05:30] gparted comes to mind [05:30] functionoverform: Anyways, you can use fdisk in all distros [05:31] ah, its a linear command i see [05:31] looking in my handy xterm [05:31] rapid (n=rapid@c211-28-195-228.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au) joined ##slackware. [05:31] alisonken1noc: oh, i almost forgot gparted [05:31] Can someone please tell which packages I need to upgrade in order to upgrade kde 4.2.4 to 4.3? I need it so the latest compiz will build. [05:31] sfdisk is a monster. it can operate on a disk otherwise inaccessible by both fdisk and cfdisk. i've had to use it once. [05:32] is there a way to equalize the audio in juk? [05:32] StonedSlacker, just upgrade to -current. [05:32] I tried that with slapt-get, I must be doing it wrong [05:32] StonedSlacker, do not use slapt-get. [05:32] slapt-get --upgrade kde ? [05:32] slackpkg. [05:32] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:33] slackpkg upgrade kde? [05:33] Action: slava_dp wonders why all these people use slapt-get. :-/ [05:33] cuz people are used to apt-get and yum? [05:33] StonedSlacker, they're ubuntu/debian users ;-) [05:33] StonedSlacker, edit /etc/slackpkg/mirrors, change your preferred mirror to the one that provides -current for your architecture [05:34] It's all I know, I'm just coming back to slack after a two year affair with ubuntu that left me with herpes and a burning sensation when I pee [05:34] slava_dp, ^^ [05:34] StonedSlacker, then "slackpkg update && slackpkg upgrade-all && slackpkg install-new && slackpkg clean-system" [05:34] how often does slack do major updates? like i read that they're not scheduled most of the time, they just come when they're ready [05:34] I dont want to upgrade every single package, or do I? [05:34] but on average [05:34] StonedSlacker, you do. [05:35] StonedSlacker, there is a kde 3.1 build for 13.0, but not any later ones, iirc. [05:35] ok, how long am I gonna be down? This is gonna take about 17 hours, isnt it? [05:36] StonedSlacker, you can use these if you wish. http://cardinal.lizella.net/~vbatts/kde/kde4-packages/4.3.1/ [05:36] these will just update your kde to 4.3.1 leaving everything else as it is. [05:36] Action: jescis uses slackpkg or sbopkg >.> [05:37] Greyhound_ (i=Greyhoun@79.114.89.109) left irc: Excess Flood [05:37] s/or/and/ ;--) [05:37] Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@79.114.89.109) joined ##slackware. [05:37] slava_dp, either way they are both usefull ;-) [05:37] Action: slava_dp can't live without sbopkg [05:38] i like slackpkg so far [05:38] thanks slav_dp, that somewhat answers the question I had. I guess in order to upgrade kde I have to upgrade ever package in the /kde directory [05:38] and was addicted to yum [05:38] sbopkg sounds.....interesting [05:39] StonedSlacker, I'd compare it to aptitude... only better ;-) [05:39] StonedSlacker, correct. choose your arch and mirror all the *.txz to a local folder, then upgradepkg *.txz [05:40] I'm gonna look into this sbopkg first, thanks guys. [05:40] StonedSlacker, run "init 3" before upgrading to be safe. it will shut down X and kde. [05:41] will do, slava [05:41] Action: jescis always runs in runlevel 3... so he can kill kde/X when it acts up ;-) [05:42] StonedSlacker: sbo is only for 3rd party apps, not stock slackware packages [05:42] still, I've grown to like SlackBuilds, it's handy [05:43] Action: StonedSlacker furiously builds the sbopkg [05:43] the man page for fdisk looks old [05:43] real old [05:44] so if i use fdisk for my partitions in my desktop.. how am i supposed to specify my sata hdd? [05:44] functionoverform, so is the program... I'd use cfdisk... it's easier ;-) [05:44] its much easier [05:44] i agree [05:44] i'm just reading up [05:44] functionoverform: just give fdisk /dev/sda [05:45] same as your old ata - the difference is /dev/sda rather than /dev/hda [05:45] lol, thanks [05:45] i've seen that before now [05:45] when i originally put fedora on my desktop [05:45] i remember the partitions were labeled like that automatically [05:45] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) joined ##slackware. [05:46] the man page only tells you how to specify a scsi or ide hdd lol [05:46] /dev/ssd for a solid state drive? [05:46] tmkd (i=user-448@clients.shells.eofnet.lt) joined ##slackware. [05:46] Becarefull... even pata drives get sda on ubuntu and other distros >.> [05:46] sata = scsi, for linux [05:46] /dev/sda [05:46] have to plug one in and see - typically they should show up as sdX as well. think usb thumbdrive and how it's represented [05:46] hi, i changed theme engine using systemsettings, and now a lot of programs can not start [05:46] i see this error [05:47] er, /dev/sdX for solid state drives (a-z etc) [05:47] QGtkStyle cannot be used together with the GTK_Qt engine. [05:47] jescis, pata drives will get sda on -current too. so beware :) [05:47] QGtkStyle cannot be used together with the GTK_Qt engine. [05:47] tmkd, then disable it [05:47] just curious.. i hear such good things about them and i kinda want one. [05:47] i am using XFCE, [05:47] tmkd, kill gtk-qt-engine. it's a shitty program. [05:47] where is conf file for xface? [05:47] ssd's are nice from a power/space setting. not necessarily from a cost/service life setting [05:47] slava_dp, damn it! can't anything stay constant?! >:< [05:47] find ~ -name "*xface*" [05:48] tmkd, use qtcurve from slackbulds.org. [05:48] jescis, upstream decision, kernel 2.6.32 no longer supports ide mod.e [05:48] ps -all, did not show any gtk-qt-engine [05:49] slava_dp: how can i kill gtk-qt-engine.. [05:49] slava_dp, well, sooner or later all drives will be sata anyways >.> [05:50] tmkd, it was a figurative kill. remove the package. [05:50] can i disable it? [05:50] ps -all? wow. [05:50] or restore default [05:50] :) [05:50] ps aux [05:50] StonedSlacker (n=StonedSl@cpe-024-074-031-061.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [05:50] Delahunt: but my version also works:) [05:50] pupit (n=p@109.93.233.219) left irc: "Leaving." [05:51] pupit (n=p@109.93.233.219) joined ##slackware. [05:51] how can i restore default(or change engine)? [05:52] Delahunt, or tmkd can "ps aux|grep gtk-qt-engine" ;-) [05:52] Delahunt (n=robert@fd126-019.infoaomori.ne.jp) left irc: "Leaving" [05:53] jescis: tomek 4562 1.0 0.0 2508 832 pts/0 S+ 11:53 0:00 grep gtk-qt-engine [05:53] di not found.. [05:54] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.204) joined ##slackware. [05:54] i mean i cant kill -9 4562 [05:54] j0z_ (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [05:54] tmkd, that means it ain't running [05:54] every time i use ps aux|grep gtk-q.... i see different PID [05:55] lmao2k (n=nothere@cpc4-chms1-0-0-cust224.basl.cable.virginmedia.com) joined ##slackware. [05:55] j0z (n=j0z@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:55] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [05:55] I use it all the time to kill kdm/X/whatever [05:55] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [05:55] my inet connection dropped somehow. [05:55] yes, and i still can not run apps, [05:55] the same error [05:56] i have changed yesterday i systemsettings theme engine, i an since that, it not works [05:56] metrofox (n=metrofox@ppp-39-254.33-151.iol.it) joined ##slackware. [05:56] hi there [05:56] unfortunately systemsettins can not be open too. [05:57] slava_dp: do you know how to change theme engine manually? [05:57] tmkd, theme engine for kde or for gtk? [05:57] oh, for kde. [05:58] nope, i don't. [05:58] for xfce [05:58] i am using xfce [05:59] Action: jescis have used xfce,kde,gnome, and others... and preferres kde :-) [06:00] but takes a lot of ram:) [06:00] does it? [06:01] tmkd, not like I have none to spare ;-) [06:01] are you trying to run gtk or qt (kde) apps? which ones are failing? [06:01] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136691 this is a way to change theme for kde apps. [06:01] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:01] :) i have 3gb, but i like have 2gb free [06:02] 1GB RAM and 1TB FAT32 partitioned Sata ;-) [06:02] wow [06:02] how much free ram do you have? [06:02] i'm using kde with 512mb ram [06:02] o shit [06:02] its working out ok [06:03] actually, i find my system slow down the most [06:03] 120GB ide for my system though [06:03] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:03] when i go to my email lol [06:03] FAT32 - there's a big waste [06:03] its smartermail 6.1 and it sucks horribly. [06:04] alisonken1noc, I do it in response to my expererience with OpenSolaris [06:06] alisonken1noc, what FS would you suggest? that can be read by all OSs? [06:07] jescis: ext3/4 partition for linux, then a shared vfat32 partition to share [06:08] vfat32 has issues with fragmentation - which is a pain on your running system [06:08] otherwise, a spare older computer as network storage [06:09] alisonken1noc, that's the purpose for the drive... storage of files every OS can use... [06:09] as long as it's used as storage and not your running system, that's fine [06:09] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.2.108) joined ##slackware. [06:10] but only if all of your o/s's are on the same computer in a multiboot setup [06:11] I have all my videos, music, and misc. file/folders/directories on the partition, alisonken1noc [06:11] hmm.. NTFS-3G? [06:11] jescis: again - is this on a single computer that is a multiboot setup? [06:11] alisonken1noc, the 120GB is for my OSs [06:11] AcEg33k (i=1000@59.161.144.110) left irc: "Leaving" [06:11] ntfs-3g is linux, not solaris and probably not bsd's [06:12] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ezmsdbdocamsyeme) joined ##slackware. [06:12] i dunno, i just googled and found that works for windows, macs, and linux [06:12] i didn't think about solaris or bsd [06:13] alisonken1noc, right now only slackware 13.0 is on my computers 120GB drive... hard to find another good OS ;-) [06:13] how are you sharing your video/music/etc. with the other machines, then? [06:14] ftp/apache if I can get it working [06:14] I only have one PC right now... the rest are Apple ][s [06:15] then why are you using vfat32 on your slackware box? local drive formatting only affects the o/s that's running on that machine, not a different machine accessing it over the net/internet [06:16] alisonken1noc, just in case I decide to install something else too. [06:16] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) joined ##slackware. [06:16] that's actually a poor excuse for using vfat :) [06:16] though, I do hate ubuntu >.> [06:17] alisonken1noc, poor or not it is my call to make ;-) [06:17] that's what it's about :) [06:17] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [06:17] ech (n=me@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [06:19] paissad (n=paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) joined ##slackware. [06:20] alisonken1noc, it's like my reason for not liking ice when I get a drink... 2 out of 3 might be better excuses then the 1 out of 3... I don't like ice because, it's cold, takes up space, and wateres down the drink ;-) [06:21] Rain (n=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) left irc: Excess Flood [06:21] yeah, but you'll be less hungover in the morning with it ;) [06:21] Rain (n=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) joined ##slackware. [06:21] functionoverform, and you'd know how? [06:21] ;-) [06:21] Rain (n=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) left irc: Excess Flood [06:21] haha [06:22] i once thought sobriety was a disease.. [06:22] Rain (n=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) joined ##slackware. [06:22] but its tough to cure.. [06:23] dios_mio (i=1000@88.241.133.222) left irc: "leaving" [06:23] fuck.. its 5am again [06:23] how does this always happen... [06:23] shure is [06:24] jescis: central time? [06:24] yep [06:24] i rarely find folks in my time zone on here at the same time i am [06:24] dios_mio (i=1000@88.241.133.222) joined ##slackware. [06:24] i am back on slackware baybee [06:25] you all should be proud for having a cool fellow slacker like me [06:25] functionoverform, Paducah, KY >.> [06:25] really!? [06:25] lol [06:25] i'm from chicago [06:25] functionoverform: i'm just an hour ahead of you [06:25] i've been to Paducah though [06:25] when i was 15 [06:25] seen both chicago and paducah [06:25] my friend's family lives out in princeton i think its called? [06:25] jecsis: I agree on the ice - unless the drink is hot, who needs ice? [06:25] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) joined ##slackware. [06:26] functionoverform, should come back, I'm here now ;-) [06:26] seen more of kentucky than i really want to, though [06:26] lol.. i flipped a 4 wheeler that week [06:26] broke a rib [06:26] broke my wrist [06:26] and was afraid to tell my family [06:26] so i spent like.. a week and half incapacitated on the floor of my buddy's cousin's house [06:27] it was a strange, strange week [06:27] Desiderius (n=DC@ns-quad.ibisc.univ-evry.fr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:27] functionoverform: i bet... [06:27] buddy's cousin's house :-D [06:27] i mean, i'd never ridden an atv [06:27] functionoverform: i remember sitting three days sick in franklin(i know, another part of the state) [06:28] ended up late in toledo because of it [06:28] and here i am, 2 days in, going like 40mph thru a field where i can't see a huge rut from where people used to truck race [06:28] I miss my home state... Virginia ;-) [06:28] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.76.181) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:28] haha, toledo.. i once drove an 11 second turbo 91' mr2 to toledo [06:28] i wish that car was mine [06:28] so fun.. [06:29] ech_ (n=me@187.10.37.82) joined ##slackware. [06:29] functionoverform: well, i was driving a 400hp 9speed at the time [06:29] 9speed? [06:29] truck? [06:29] functionoverform: yep [06:30] nyRednek: haha, 400hp 1000lbs tq, right [06:30] ech (n=me@unaffiliated/echoes) left irc: Nick collision from services. [06:30] Nick change: zecafig -> zecaway [06:30] functionoverform: yeah [06:30] i like small, fast cars... they feel exponentially more dangerous. [06:30] functionoverform, you want to pick up a package and deliver it back to chicago? [06:30] ech_ (n=me@187.10.37.82) left irc: Client Quit [06:31] haha, ohh man.. ya know, i quit doing alot of things that last 6 months [06:31] ech (n=me@unaffiliated/echoes) joined ##slackware. [06:32] functionoverform, I'll give you a hint on what it is... the parts are now illegal to sell on ebay now... ;-) [06:33] functionoverform, give up? [06:33] yeah, pm me so you don't get banned for freenode's conduct if its an issue [06:34] the parts.. that's what confusing [06:34] lol [06:34] functionoverform, the package is... me :-D [06:34] creepy [06:34] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:34] lol [06:34] i mean, seriously.. the slackware irc channel? [06:34] Action: jescis wants to leave this town soooo bad! [06:34] so get a car and drive.. [06:34] ive done it [06:35] just dissappear for awhile [06:35] yeah I know >.> [06:35] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [06:36] I'm on a fixed income and no way to do it without being off line for a few months to a few years, to save up for it >.> [06:36] akSeya (i=bd0b3ec2@gateway/web/freenode/x-udpcwhkwsnkqgbtm) joined ##slackware. [06:37] Action: jescis hates social sewcurity [06:37] fuzzix (n=fuzzix@109.76.26.55) joined ##slackware. [06:37] why? [06:37] its better than nothing? [06:37] i mean.. alot of people do backbreaking labor for less than 50 cents a day [06:38] But, I can't do anything... even keep up with tyhe computer world to be usefull [06:38] disabled? [06:38] in a way [06:39] epilepsy, cerebral palsy, and bronchial asthma [06:40] jescis: just take the greyhound to cinci [06:40] wow.. you've got a rough deck of cards there [06:40] hey... anyone familliar with Clonezilla? [06:40] functionoverform, tell me 'bout it :-< [06:42] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [06:42] at least you live now, when you can have a computer, and communicate [06:43] i have a kind of bomb in my hands... we have here at least 80 Ghost images.. and I would like to convert is to clonezilla format.. am I fucked or what!?! [06:44] jescis: it would suck more to be disabled before social security, which was also before computers [06:44] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Client Quit [06:44] F15ch3r (n=Rossoner@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) joined ##slackware. [06:44] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [06:44] nyRednek, in a sence I was... 1977 = Apple ][ [06:45] jescis: so you were born in 77, eh? [06:45] D.O.B. = 04/22/1977... yep [06:46] is bob dobbs a true prophet ? :P [06:46] same bday as my mom, and my buddy dan [06:46] lol [06:46] its a common one [06:46] jescis: you're just a year older than me [06:46] cool! [06:47] nyRednek =1978 ;-) [06:47] jescis, male female ? [06:47] F15ch3r, male [06:47] ok :( [06:48] Jeremiah BScott Norris [06:48] Jeremiah Scott Norris* [06:49] jescis, where are you from ? [06:49] Born and raised in Virginia [06:49] us ? [06:50] yep [06:50] k [06:50] only Virginia I know >.> [06:50] a sys admin like us ? :) [06:52] lol, I'm not sure I'm a sys admin >.> or at least it seems I can't get paid for it yet >.> [06:54] F15ch3r & jescis: join ##slackware-offtopic, you're offtopic here :-) [06:54] sorry, I didn't think... [06:55] lol [06:55] gbaker (n=gbaker@ppp121-44-213-49.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [06:55] metrofox, hello my friend "italian" [06:55] it's me the milanista [06:57] lol [06:57] he's everywhere with a different nickname :D [06:58] metrofox, yeah I am searching the perfect nickname [06:58] Fleurety (n=fleurety@93.186.164.51) left irc: K-lined [06:59] anyone knows if there a way to equalize the audio in juk? [07:00] sh0ne (n=Unknown@91.150.105.81) joined ##slackware. [07:00] Hi [07:01] Hi [07:01] hi hi [07:01] The-Croupier (n=agapi@unaffiliated/thecroupier/x-363548) left irc: "leaving" [07:05] how can I upgrade a single package (python for example) using slapt-get? [07:05] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [07:05] gbaker (n=gbaker@ppp121-44-213-49.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:07] StonedSlacker (n=lurker@cpe-024-074-031-061.carolina.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:07] greetings from the console [07:09] StonedSlacker: yes, but how? #slapt-get --p --dist-upgrade python, mabe? [07:09] sh0ne: if you are sane and want a working system, stay away from third party package managers like slapt-get [07:10] man upgradepkg [07:11] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [07:11] well i'm off to bed guys [07:11] nn [07:11] pprkut: Thank you :) [07:11] see ya tomorrow probably [07:12] functionoverform (n=mranders@adsl-76-224-78-128.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [07:12] sh0ne: np [07:12] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [07:15] sh0ne (n=Unknown@91.150.105.81) left irc: "Leaving" [07:15] "if you are sane an want a working system" [07:16] FUD. [07:16] Good call. [07:16] sh0ne said the 'S-G' word !!!!! Get a rope!!!! [07:17] slapt-get is no more harmful than SBo [07:17] *gasp* both are third party! [07:18] i am late for the show, what is the S-G word? [07:18] slapt-get [07:19] ardya: well, i'm having issues getting a fast enough pc up...will get back to you as soon as i can get a synth running [07:22] nyRednek: thats fine, I have surgery later today so I'll not be recording for a few days [07:23] ardya: understood, i wish you a full recovery [07:23] thanks [07:27] ardya: i may have to pick up an alesis to get going again [07:27] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:28] i really hate the menus on that thing [07:29] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [07:29] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [07:31] StonedSlacker (n=lurker@cpe-024-074-031-061.carolina.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:32] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@99-144-77-98.lightspeed.wpbhfl.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [07:35] jescis where in virginia [07:35] i should turn joins and parts back on i guess [07:39] or learn to whois before you talk ;) [07:42] guaxinim (n=guax@200.146.46.130) joined ##slackware. [07:44] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:46] Nick change: guaxinim -> guax [07:47] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:49] Axius (n=fd@92.85.219.40) joined ##slackware. [07:49] foobarz (i=1000@unaffiliated/foobarz) joined ##slackware. [07:51] zalost (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [07:55] Nick change: zecaway -> zeca_reuniao [07:55] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:55] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [07:56] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) joined ##slackware. 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I'm trying to find/implement a walkie-talkie mechanism that will mute the mic when the speakers are active. [08:25] need this to enable a wall-mounted panel to act as a communication terminal. [08:28] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [08:31] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [08:31] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:32] congratulations slava_dp you just invented an intercom [08:33] Action: slava_dp kicks Pig_Pen [08:35] there is also noise canceling microphones that dont pick up background noise, a RoadKing 56 is a famous one used in many industrial applications like trucks and on oil rigs [08:35] IrquiM_ (n=irquim@176.80-202-41.nextgentel.com) joined ##slackware. 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[09:42] icarus_ (n=icarus@82.211.203.74) left irc: Client Quit [09:42] Shuren (n=Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:42] slava_dp run this command and talk into the mic and watch the volume meter in the terminal for movement, report problems: arecord -f cd -vv /dev/null [09:42] icarus_ (n=icarus@82.211.203.74) joined ##slackware. [09:42] slava_dp this command has a volume meter at the bottom of its output with a changing number of #'s and %'s to show volume levels so run this command and tell me if the number of #'s and %'s are changing: aplay -vv /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_* [09:45] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-180-241.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [09:46] Axius (n=ghi@92.84.9.15) left irc: "Leaving" [09:46] icarus_ (n=icarus@82.211.203.74) left irc: Client Quit [09:47] gnubien, hmm, yes, arecord shows the volume meter. [09:48] gnubien, i wonder how to use this.... [09:48] thanks for the hint :) [09:49] slava_dp maybe someone at the alsa mailing list can help so search this site for your card or problem and ask in the alsa mailing list: http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net [09:50] although on a second thought, no, this isn't any solution for me unfortunately. i need a program to monitor the alsa speakers and if sound is detected, mute the mic.... [09:50] slava_dp: search and/or ask in that forum [09:50] sounds like you want something like VoX only backwards [09:51] pseudonymous (n=icarus@82.211.203.74) joined ##slackware. [09:52] what is VoX? :) [09:52] voice activated microphone [09:52] but you want it to mute instead of activate [09:52] Axius (n=fd@92.84.9.15) joined ##slackware. [09:53] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: "Bye" [09:53] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [09:53] yes, that's exactly what I need. [09:53] tjones (n=tjones@173-113-183-204.pools.spcsdns.net) joined ##slackware. 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[10:07] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:09] mornin all [10:09] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [10:10] gnubien, i don't see any vox software that would suit me unfortunately. [10:10] i should go home and continue my research tomorrow probably... [10:11] slava_dp: good plan :) [10:11] :) thanks for your suggestions, i'll continue tomorrow then. [10:15] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) left irc: "^D" [10:15] doomey (n=doomey@188.24.77.78) joined ##slackware. [10:16] jabuti (n=work@189.88.144.87) joined ##slackware. [10:21] tuxdev (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [10:21] cyb3r3li0g (n=3li0@c-68-35-73-169.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [10:23] zErOaCid (i=debian@unaffiliated/zErOaCid) joined ##slackware. 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Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda2" [10:43] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [10:43] raph0x88: try using testdisk. [10:43] i think that's what it's called... [10:44] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. George Carlin" [10:44] raph0x88: it is called that. grap the gparted live cd as it's on there, i don't think it's on slackwares. [10:45] darkwurm_ (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [10:45] agentc0re, using that testdisk, its testing the partition I believe.. [10:45] btw... in dmesg, when I try to mount the partition it claims that the inode table for a group its not in group block 1... [10:45] brokedown (n=not@unaffiliated/dedhed) left irc: "leaving" [10:47] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [10:54] raph0x88_ (n=raph0x88@189.13.220.219) joined ##slackware. [10:54] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:54] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@189.13.220.219) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:54] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@189.13.220.219) joined ##slackware. [10:55] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@189.13.220.219) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:55] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@189.13.220.219) joined ##slackware. [10:55] Axius (n=fd@92.84.9.15) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:55] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) joined ##slackware. [10:56] raph0x88_ (n=raph0x88@189.13.220.219) left irc: Client Quit [10:57] so this morning I did a 'slackpkg upgrade-all' on Slackware64-current and I'm noticing that now I can't run 'make menuconfig' in /usr/src/linux [10:57] anyone else having this issue or did I mess something up? [10:58] it looks like it fails to find some headers [10:58] err... nevermind [10:58] v6CommO (n=cmfodera@wsip-70-167-74-173.sd.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [10:58] I'm a dumbass [11:01] sitwon: try "grep -v ^# /etc/slackpkg/mirrors" and see if you have a slackware mirror rather than a slackware64 mirror you're using [11:02] ga_bash (n=gaurav@210.18.180.131) joined ##slackware. [11:03] alisonken1home: I have the right mirror, I had the wrong kernel-headers-* package installed [11:03] ah [11:04] hmmm, I wonder what's the advantage of the VDPAU output that's now used by default in mplayer over XV ? [11:05] I've been fighting with this system all night. For some reason the bettery life in Linux is crap compared to in Windows. [11:05] snL20: speed [11:05] snL20: decoding done by GPU not CPU [11:05] Zordrak: aah cool :) [11:10] I have a ThinkPad X300 with a brand new 6-cell battery. On Windows I get about 6-hours of battery life, but in Linux only about 3. [11:11] according to powertop ' : hrtimer_start_range_ns (tick_sched_timer)' is waking up the system 200+ times a second [11:11] I'm guessing that's the culprit [11:12] rachael (n=nnrachae@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: Excess Flood [11:12] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. George Carlin" [11:12] sitwon: you try running powertop yet? [11:13] on my thinkpad, the bluetooth controller was causing it [11:13] sitwon: what kernel+ [11:13] ? [11:13] mplayer has vdpau by default now ? [11:13] pseudonymous (n=icarus@82.211.203.74) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:14] 2.6.32.3 just upgraded to 2.6.32.5 this morning and I'm recompiling with CONFIG_TIMER_STATS so I can use powertop again [11:14] rachael (n=nnnracha@3505ds1-svg.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [11:14] mario: well at least it does select it for me, but I do have an nvidia card that has it =) [11:15] sitwon: not sure then.. believe therce were some bugs between 29.4 and 30.0 that can cause it... but thats about all i know [11:15] Steaki (n=steaki@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ffddc000-253.dhcp.inet.fi) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:15] Steaki (n=steaki@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ffddc000-253.dhcp.inet.fi) joined ##slackware. [11:16] there are a few bug reports online suggesting that at other people might be having the same issue with 2.6.29+ kernels [11:16] but none of those seem to suggest a solution [11:17] except for disabling HT if you have an Atom, but I have a C2D and disabling HT in the kernel didn't have any effect [11:17] lewnidas_ (n=lewnidas@188.4.68.32.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) left irc: "the poul......... :)" [11:17] sitwon: indeed.. the problem fix was merged in at about .30rc4 so its probably something else [11:18] can you not just kill the high res timer in the bios? unless you really need it for some reason [11:18] that would affect his windows too, no? [11:18] Zordrak: when it's done compiling I'll reboot and try that [11:18] (where he is getting 2x the battery life) [11:19] screw windows [11:19] i cant think of anything off hand that might even use the HRT in windows other than WMP [11:23] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:25] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-ezmsdbdocamsyeme) left irc: [11:25] Shuren (n=Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [11:25] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [11:26] hey all, having some trouble outfitting an old 12.2 box with ffmpeg for some webapp feature that I'm wanting to test out [11:26] I'm using all slackbuilds here and installed all package deps of ffmpeg, but it claims not to be able to find libx264 [11:27] now the slackbuild was having some trouble with this (through sbopkg) so I grabbed the latest snapshot and the slackbuild script and run it all manually [11:27] package was created fine and installed with no trouble, but ffmpeg build still canny find it [11:28] did you install the actual x264 package ? [11:29] I refer you to my earlier statement: "package was created fine and installed with no trouble" [11:29] =P [11:29] any suggestions? disable "--enable-libx264" in slackbuild script? [11:29] deximat (n=deximat@cable-188-2-105-115.dynamic.sbb.rs) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:29] for ffmpeg that is [11:30] theblackbox: I thought you were referring to ffmpeg package [11:30] ;) damn ambiguity [11:31] theblackbox: you are using ffmpeg 0.5 with a newer x263 snapshot than on SBo? [11:31] x264 that is [11:31] yeah, I just took the newest, should I remove and rebuild with the one on SBo? [11:32] if you want x264 support, than yes [11:32] I doubt it's even required for what I'm trying to implement anyway [11:32] hmm.... might as well [11:32] otherwise you can just disable it in the SlackBuild [11:32] newer x264 snapshots likely require a newer ffmpeg [11:33] yeah I kinda wanted to know if that was an option, wasn't sure if it might cripple me later on [11:33] ahh, that would make sense [11:33] csujbc (n=csujbc@henry.dcs.warwick.ac.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[12:40] GooseYArd: I disabled the bluetooth and even unloaded the modules but that didn't affect the problem. hrtimer_start_range_ns (tick_sched_tiemr) is still going strong at about 200 wakeups per second [12:45] agris (n=agris@pasts.blondais.lv) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:46] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:46] hmm [12:47] powertop have anything wise to say? [12:48] GooseYArd: I've already done all the things powertop suggested. It's telling me the hrtimer_start_range_ns (tick_sched_timer) is the top cause for wakeups (60%) [12:48] wahooooo (n=wahooooo@67.170.35.27) left irc: Connection timed out [12:49] Rain (n=Plasmius@unaffiliated/plasmastar/bot/plasmius) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:50] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.23) left irc: [12:50] huh [12:51] the ACPI estimate is that I'm using 9.9W giving me about 4.3 hours now [12:53] other_rafa (i=rafa@shellium/member/rafa) left irc: "Leaving" [12:53] sitwon: one thing I found is to turn of hyperthreading, either in bios or in kernel [12:54] pprkut: my chip doesn't support HT, but I turned it off in the kernel anyways. no effect. [12:55] downgrade to 2.6.28, that's the other thing I found [12:55] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [12:55] you'll probably find your motherboard chipset is a bitch, thats the case for me with my eeepc [12:57] good day, i can't load the X server after i got download and install the nvidia kernel module and nvidia driver from slackbuilds. somebody know what can i do? [12:58] pprkut: this might be a dumb question but, I shouldn't have any issues running a 2.6.28 kernel w/ Slackware64-current, should I? [12:59] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@69.18.80.212) joined ##slackware. [12:59] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) joined ##slackware. [13:01] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:02] j4cx (n=j4ck@adsl190-28-93-78.epm.net.co) left irc: "leaving" [13:03] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC30165.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "Leaving" [13:05] lol! 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[13:10] hi folks, i am trying to build pgadmin3 from SBo file but i get this error: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables [13:10] so config.log exit 77 [13:10] ovnicraft: multilib installed? [13:10] no [13:11] partial install? [13:11] http://slackbuilds.org/faq/#x86_64 [13:12] sitwon: no idea [13:12] well I guess I'll find out [13:13] BP{k}, , I am back on slackware baybee! [13:14] dios_mio: good for you. [13:14] thanks man [13:15] BP{k}, , do you use the libnotify with pidgin? [13:15] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) joined ##slackware. [13:15] dios_mio: no. [13:16] ovni: is $ARCH set? [13:16] GooseYArd: I am gonna gues, it's not. [13:17] thats the error you typically get if you try to slackbuild a package on an amd64 machine without arch set to x86_64 [13:17] raboho (n=ralf@p54937E26.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving." [13:17] dios_mio: pidgin is compiled without libnotify anyway. [13:19] jhw (n=jhw@p5B3E7C93.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "leaving" [13:19] BP{k}, ok dont worry, I figured it out.. I just needed to run ldconfig.. see, I had just installed the library and the plugin, but it wasnt working for some reason :P [13:20] BP{k}, , what is your preferred IM client? [13:21] a friend i have just passed away.... he was 250 kg.. i think that makes 500 lbs? [13:22] dios_mio: bitlbee or pidgin. [13:22] do you know about that surgery where they put a metal thing around your stomach so you eat less... so he had that surgery, but died in two days [13:22] the thing is, about 10 days ago i told him on MSN "why dont you get that gastro-bypass surgery?" [13:23] doomey (n=doomey@188.24.77.78) joined ##slackware. [13:24] BP{k}, , no kopete? [13:24] BP{k}, , ooh! I have an idea! lets add each other! [13:26] Axius (n=ghi@92.84.9.15) joined ##slackware. [13:27] tuxdev (n=tuxdev@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. 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[14:18] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-44-229.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:18] agentc0re: pm? [14:19] fire|bird: no need to ask :D pm me all day long hero! [14:19] lol [14:19] ./msg agentc0re a/s/l baby ;) [14:19] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [14:19] marchhare (n=marchhar@CPE-65-30-221-199.wi.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [14:19] BP{k}: Bah, you already know that stud! :P [14:20] haha [14:20] lol [14:20] hehehe [14:20] fuzzix_ (n=fuzzix@93.107.204.16) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:21] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:21] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: "Leaving" [14:21] Immundus (n=obi@e179132194.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [14:21] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. 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[14:34] ask #kde [14:34] dios_mio: search indexer, among others [14:34] thanks man [14:35] that was easy [14:35] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [14:35] http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ [14:35] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.247.83) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:39] AgentAnderson (n=fire|bir@buhkit.net) joined ##slackware. [14:42] paul424 (n=chatzill@k163-223.DWUDZIESTOLATKA.ds.uni.wroc.pl) joined ##slackware. [14:43] Shuren (n=Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:45] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("You make your own luck in life."). [14:45] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-130-129-183.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) joined ##slackware. [14:46] pprkut: with 2.6.28.10 the hrtimer seems to be doing the right thing (down to about 3 wakeups per second) and I have the ACPI estimate down to 7.8W but it still only estimates 5.2 hours [14:46] I suppose that's better than nothing [14:55] suid0 (i=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [14:55] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) joined ##slackware. [14:56] AgentAnderson (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/bot/firebird619/AgentAnderson) left irc: ""Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it."" [14:56] i installed slackware with 8 mb of swap space... is that ok? [14:57] 8 Mb ? [14:57] why so small [14:58] dios_mio, you could install with no swap is you wanted to [14:58] wertik_rus, it was already partitioned like that from my previous XP install [14:58] well [14:59] InspectorCluseau, I once tried installing with no Swap.. and it doesnt work :| [14:59] a swap file can be made anytime ... anysize [14:59] Fleurety (n=fleurety@93.186.164.51) joined ##slackware. [14:59] I have 1.5 gb of RAM.. it should be enough for everythign [14:59] shyko (n=shyko@unaffiliated/shyko) left irc: "bora!" [14:59] I've used Slack with no swap ... plenty of ram here [15:00] Shuren (n=Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:00] but it's not for vmware ) and not for me ) have not swap [15:00] I recommend using having a swap partition at least as large as your physical RAM [15:00] because the swap partition is used to hibernate your system [15:01] gazra (n=quassel@nrbg-4dbfbb39.pool.mediaWays.net) joined ##slackware. [15:01] sitwon: this makes no sense... [15:01] kukukk (n=dvorak@188.24.65.92) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:01] tediosu: how so? [15:01] I have 8 000 Mb swap ) [15:02] sitwon: you don't need swap after all [15:02] alreadygone (n=silas@59.103.208.141) left irc: "Leaving" [15:05] tediosu: If you're using the swsusp in the kernel to hibernate the system you need a swap partition, it will write the contents of your RAM to the swap partition and then power down the system. (RAM doesn't hold data very long after losing power). When you reboot it loads the contents of the swap partition back into RAM and resusmes the system. [15:08] Shuren (n=Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Sto andando via" [15:10] sitwon: i agree :P [15:10] gades (n=gades@unaffiliated/gades) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:11] sitwon: however if you will not hibernate you machine... there's no need to have a swap [15:12] Shuren (n=Devilman@host200-237-dynamic.6-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:12] *your [15:15] tediosu: I wouldn't say *no* reason, there were some good posts on the linux kernel mailing list about the usefulness of swap on systems with more than 4GB RAM. But generally speaking, it's not strictly necessary. [15:16] r_linux (n=r_linux@smtp.mandique.com.br) left irc: "..." 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[15:31] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:37] wertik_rus (n=wertik@95-24-44-229.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "#E>6C O >B 20A (xchat 2.4.5 8;8 AB0@H5)" [15:39] john_dee (n=id@95-29-15-111.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: Client Quit [15:40] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [15:40] I just installed that beta flash player plugin 10.1 [15:40] work well? [15:41] About to test with hulu [15:41] apparently, if you have a supported nvidia card and the most recent beta nvidia driver, the new flash plugin is supposed to rock [15:41] we'll see [15:42] Hmm, my desktop is nvidia, FX5200, so no beta drivers here. [15:42] it is better [15:42] awesome. [15:42] antiwire: what nvidia are you using? [15:42] what nvidia card is yours? [15:42] dammit agentc0re :P [15:43] My card is a Quadro NVS135M [15:43] nice! [15:43] err drivers that is.. The very, todays latest? [15:43] Action: fire|bird stabs Necos and runs. [15:43] antiwire: are you on FF 3.6? [15:44] yeah [15:45] FF3.6, 190.30, Quadro NVS135M. flash plugin listed as "10.1 d51" in FF plugins [15:45] rocking [15:45] Previously, Just adjusting my volume would cause flash videos to stutter [15:45] Action: Necos bleeds and laughs [15:45] slackd00d (n=slackd00@enlightenment/developer/slackd00d) joined ##slackware. [15:45] oh wow. [15:46] i need to muck with my radeonhd drivers at some point [15:47] 1.3.x seems very interesting [15:47] this is the link i pasted earlier http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ [15:49] interesting [15:49] weird, i can't get the nvidia download site by ftp access through the browser. ftp://download.nvidia.com right? [15:49] ftp://download.nvidia.com works here [15:49] there we go... what was weird. [15:50] http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_190.53.html [15:50] maybe there is just a lot of traffic on it right now.. /shrug. [15:50] s/w/t/;? [15:50] could be getting hammered or they might be getting ready to post a new version [15:51] latest beta, 195.30 for me on a 8800GT. [15:51] Necos: thanks :D [15:52] agentc0re: doh, you're right and I typoed. I actually am using NVIDIA-Linux-x86-195.30-pkg1.run [15:52] Acquiesce (n=si@212.183.140.16) joined ##slackware. [15:53] cool. I need to update.. :D [15:54] hey who could someone link me to some source on setting the windowsxp fonts on slackware... or nice fonts on slackware [15:54] check out fontforge on SBo [15:54] fontforge is awesome :) [15:56] guax (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:56] guaxinim (n=guax@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [15:57] _theradar (i=yamabush@detached.ircii.de) joined ##slackware. [15:57] ok ... also the orginal slackware site seems to suck ... I cannot see what is the status of current branch. .. I mean I cannot find it anywhere [15:58] uhhh there;s changelog ... ok sorry :P [16:00] zErOaCid (i=debian@unaffiliated/zErOaCid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:03] epoch_ (n=epoch@adsl-99-29-187-47.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) left ##slackware. [16:03] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) joined ##slackware. [16:04] tsonev (n=tsonev@88.203.244.73) joined ##slackware. [16:05] paul424: just copy windows fonts over to ~/.fonts/* [16:06] or if you have many users just mkdir /home/fonts then ln -s ~/.fonts for each user [16:07] hersonls (n=hersonls@187.40.2.108) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:08] yeah I have the windows fonts already installed ... [16:09] but how do I manage them, the system-settings->fonts crashes. [16:10] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.68.242.138) joined ##slackware. [16:10] I have to switch fonts in every application ? like konqueror, thunderbird ...etc ... that would be though [16:10] not to mention firefox, of which I have found I need to recompile. [16:11] well those fonts _are_ made for windows, they probably scale differently than fonts made for windows [16:12] recompile? [16:12] scale differently than fonts made for Linux (is what i mean) [16:12] holy crap [16:12] http://urlg.in/1uu LOL, scroll down to like the 4th comment (first one that is expanded for me) [16:13] i never had a problem with copieing windows fonts over to Linux, heck i still have fonts from win98 in ~/.fonts [16:13] link is a /. article. [16:14] plus lots of oddball fonts i downloaded online at those free font websites [16:15] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:15] slysir (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:16] the only fonts in windows worth copying are the Ariel, Courier New, Tahoma, Times New Roman, the rest are fluff [16:17] does slackware come with apache? or PHP? [16:17] Pig_Pen: no need [16:17] apache but its named httpd (i beleive) [16:17] it is in /n [16:17] thx [16:18] the name of the project is apache httpd [16:18] were getting hit with an ice storm, so if i disapear that just means the ice took the power down [16:18] as such, the name of the binary is httpd. Debian-based distros like to rename them, for no reason, to 'apache' [16:18] this is where the confusion is coming from. [16:19] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:19] Leitaox (i=500@187.100.225.101) joined ##slackware. [16:25] piccardTE20 (n=j@247.Red-88-15-194.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. 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[16:39] i done it for years without rebuilding anything [16:39] 1280x1024 [16:39] that is plenty big so that should not be a problem [16:39] ok but , what every kde application all of sudden starts to use the fonts which I have recenlty put into /fonts, come on dude [16:40] stewie griffin will execute me for using "all of sudden" [16:40] did you run pkgtool and selected that make font-cache thing for when you add new fonts? [16:40] felipe (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) joined ##slackware. [16:41] hmm no, nobody told me [16:41] well it does run once every time you boot up so if you missed it... [16:43] done it already... [16:43] gazra (n=quassel@nrbg-4dbfbb39.pool.mediaWays.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:45] paul424: you may also want to remove the link /etc/fonts/conf.d/60-liberation.conf - that link causes Liberation fonts to be used everywhere an application requests a Microsoft font such as Arial.... instead of using the actual MS font [16:45] yeah sure dude but I suppose that kde applications usually don';t request Arial/ [16:45] paul424: suit yourself [16:46] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-21.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:46] ThomasLocke (n=ThomasLo@pdpc/supporter/active/thomaslocke) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:47] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-21.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [16:48] dios_mio (i=1000@88.241.133.222) left irc: "Leaving" [16:50] slackerpete (n=slackerp@host86-130-129-183.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:53] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:57] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-72-126-110.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:58] raph0x88_ (n=raph0x88@189.13.111.41) joined ##slackware. [16:59] forget all the different font names, there are basically three types of fonts (names aside) you have a sans, a serif and a monospaced font, those three are what all other fonts are based on [17:03] s0d0 (n=sod@host81-141-48-44.wlms-broadband.com) left irc: Client Quit [17:04] raph0x88 (n=raph0x88@189.13.220.219) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:04] oi (n=raph0x88@189.13.143.59) joined ##slackware. [17:04] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typeface#Types_of_typefaces [17:05] oi (n=raph0x88@189.13.143.59) left ##slackware. 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[18:04] The-spiki (n=spiki@77-105-33-215.dialup.sezampro.yu) joined ##slackware. [18:05] i think /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/ [18:05] sahk0, and where i configure to set one? [18:06] I seem to have some in ~/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme/ [18:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:06] kdm themes are changed as root [18:06] ovnicraft: no idea [18:06] Ah nm no I don't, those are just userfiles per theme [18:07] mindscrap (n=mindscra@scrappy.nmsu.edu) joined ##slackware. [18:07] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) joined ##slackware. [18:08] mindscrap (n=mindscra@scrappy.nmsu.edu) left irc: Client Quit [18:08] ovnicraft: actually in /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc [18:08] Skywise (n=noneya@unaffiliated/skywise) left irc: "Why be difficult when, with a bit of effort, you could be impossible?" [18:09] sahk0, ok but ~.kde/share/apps/desktopthemes/ is not the folder [18:10] i didnt say ~ nor . [18:10] einyx (n=einyx@ppp-168-239.32-151.iol.it) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:10] /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/ [18:12] matu (n=matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:13] initself (n=initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [18:13] initself (n=initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: Client Quit [18:13] initself (n=initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) joined ##slackware. [18:14] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@192.188.48.254) left irc: "Leaving" [18:14] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [18:14] what is the standard tool for making disk partitions on slackware? [18:14] cfdisk/fdisk [18:14] i always use cfdisk [18:15] ok, cfdisk/fdisk are still the standard... but is parted the standard for making >2TB partitions? [18:17] macius (n=macius@i209-195-82-145.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [18:19] ok, this is weird, I'm using imgburn in wine to burn a mixed mode cd :P [18:19] foobarz: yes [18:19] xverse_ (n=xverse@81.193.143.237) joined ##slackware. [18:20] Drakevr (n=drakevr@unaffiliated/drakevr) left irc: "Leaving" [18:20] r-tz (n=rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) joined ##slackware. [18:22] I might want to make a large >2TB LVM volume on top of RAID1 disks, and maybe have the ability to add more RAID1 disks to the LVM to grow it. I'm unsure of how all the commands like mdadm, lvm commands, and parted, and commands grow the ext3|4 filesystem will work together. Can anyone make me a little text file that explains how to use all these commands to manage multiple RAID1 joined with LVM and how to grow it if more RAID1 are added? And also [18:22] , the commands for a RAID1 rebuild? [18:22] xverse_ (n=xverse@81.193.143.237) left irc: Client Quit [18:24] It would be nice to see a model of how it works using like loop devices of little file-based virtual disks if that can work to demonstrate it [18:24] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:25] sed__ (n=sed@pool-173-66-214-156.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:27] foobarz, do you understand that raid1 is mirroring? [18:28] oh, and another option thrown in would be to add AES encryption into this whole thing [18:28] Necos: yeah, it is two disks that mirror each other [18:28] you can't "add" more raid1 to a mirror :P [18:29] Necos: you can add a RAID1 device into a LVM volume [18:33] so you're talking about making an LVM out of multiple raid1s? [18:33] yes, it's common. [18:34] oh bleh, i misread it then... i thought he was saying he was adding drives to a raid1, which by definition isn't possible >.> [18:34] i've been up since 6am, so my brain is kinda mushy [18:34] Necos: yes, and each RAID1 would be the under lying device of a AES encrypted device, which I wwould add to a LVM and grow that LVM up bigger [18:36] a software-based raid5+1 essentially [18:36] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [18:36] to do it with aes, wouldn't you need something like truecrypt? [18:36] AEnima1577 (n=clbarnob@rrcs-24-199-200-70.midsouth.biz.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:37] sed__ (n=sed@pool-173-66-214-156.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:37] cryptsetup can do it, at some level in the setup... not sure at which level, maybe above the RAID1, at the raw device level, or above the LVM level, I'm not sure [18:38] or the luks thing ... yeah cryptsetup [18:39] which, is something like truecrypt :P [18:39] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) left irc: "Leaving" [18:41] just wondering the sequence of commands that others have used to run a similar thing [18:41] foobarz, there are tons of guides on setting up LVM, so i'd start there [18:43] kleanchap (n=kleancha@p5DC3109B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [18:43] the one by AlienBOB that is on the DVD is actually pretty good [18:44] asamoah_ (n=caio@190.244.48.80) joined ##slackware. [18:46] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: "Leaving" [18:49] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [18:49] ok, I found AlienBOB's lvm and crypt stuff and will read it [18:49] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [18:49] Is there a gui interface to slapt-get? [18:49] its not supported here [18:49] lol [18:51] kleanchap: why not use slackpkg? [18:52] TClayton, Is slackpkg a gui based tool? [18:53] no, why gui based? [18:54] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [18:55] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: "leaving" [18:57] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) joined ##slackware. [18:57] GaRLiK (i=1000@host18-45-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: "Leaving" [18:57] asamoah (n=caio@190.244.48.80) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:57] doomey (n=doomey@188.24.77.78) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:57] zounds_ (n=zounds@80.85.119.158) got netsplit. 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[19:01] Fleurety (n=fleurety@93.186.164.51) left irc: K-lined [19:01] i can't be the only one who noticed that there were patches for pidgin and firefox that were released with nothing in them? [19:02] i haven't seen any posts on the security mailing announcing fixed patches [19:02] packages [19:02] which Slackware version? [19:02] 64-13.0 [19:03] zounds_ (n=zounds@80.85.119.158) got lost in the net-split. [19:03] jaskorpe_ (i=jaskorpe@knuth.ping.uio.no) got lost in the net-split. [19:03] laj (n=laj@0x50c62758.hsnxx4.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) got lost in the net-split. [19:03] jareth_ (n=X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) got lost in the net-split. [19:03] konus (n=konus_fn@ns1.noxis.org) got lost in the net-split. [19:03] I saw that too. And one before that (13.0, 32bit) where the URL didn't work.... about 2 months ago. [19:04] (wow, 4 months. Time's fun when you're having flies.) [19:04] maybe my rsync caused a problem [19:05] icarus (n=tits@unaffiliated/icarus-/x-7520418) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:05] the firefox package does have contents [19:06] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) joined ##slackware. [19:06] corretico (n=laguilar@201.201.46.106) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [19:06] i'm running rsync again [19:06] maybe something failed here [19:06] pidgin is the same, it is a complete package [19:07] jimi: did you check the mirror that you were downloading from to make sure that their package is complete? [19:07] that's what i'm doing now [19:07] looks likely that something on my end screwed up [19:07] so nevermind [19:08] :) [19:08] we all have those days ;) [19:08] Nick change: r-tz -> rizitis [19:09] it looks like all the packages that i updated on the 26th came up empty [19:09] firefox, httpd, and php [19:09] maybe the mirror hadnt fully synced yet [19:11] that is what I was thinking [19:12] i deleted all the packages i had in the patches subdir and now i'm resyncing [19:13] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:13] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:13] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:14] rsync can do that automatically with --delete [19:14] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:14] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) left irc: Client Quit [19:15] delete uneeded/weird/0 size/whatever packages, not the useful ones [19:16] already done :) [19:19] cat /etc/samba/smb.conf.default [19:20] err [19:20] gm152 (n=glen@d72-39-221-222.home1.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [19:23] epoch (n=epoch@unaffiliated/x80) joined ##slackware. [19:23] 404 file not found [19:24] this 'akonadi' takes up a substantial amount of space on my harddrive, if i were to removepkg it, would it cause problems for me? [19:24] actually 141512 ./.local/share/akonadi/db_data [19:25] just that takes up a ton of room [19:25] epoch: that's a relative path. what's the absolute? [19:25] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [19:25] /home/epoch [19:25] err hold [19:25] /home/epoch/.local/share/akonadi/db_data [19:25] epoch: then removing the package wouldn't touch that. it's in your home dir. [19:26] could i delete THAT particular directory without my system blowing a gasket on me? [19:26] thumbs (i=1000@modemcable179.141-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) joined ##slackware. [19:26] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) joined ##slackware. [19:26] i only use xfce [19:26] bah i dont know what akonadi even is... [19:27] and it doesn't come with slackware [19:27] WHAT? [19:27] ut oh [19:27] akonadi is only used by KDE [19:27] actually, my mistake. it does come with slackware [19:28] phew [19:28] was gonna say...i dont remember installing that [19:28] system settings - > akonadi config [19:28] sahk0, why would that directory for 'db_data' be 141mb? [19:28] of course it comes with slack, it's a huge part of kde4 [19:28] epoch: its supposed to be some file indexing thing [19:28] can i delete that 141mb of db_data ya think? [19:29] but that command SlashQuit gave probably wont work on xfce [19:29] epoch: are you that low on disk space? [19:29] /dev/root 7.6G 7.0G 205M 98% / [19:29] yeah i would rm it [19:29] Action: epoch nods [19:29] lol true [19:29] you run kde4, and your /home is on /, with only 7.6gb of total disk space? [19:30] my setup is the same [19:30] its an 8gb harddrive [19:30] just trying to free up some space [19:30] /dev/root 7858784 2803324 4656248 38% / [19:30] /dev/root 7.5G 2.7G 4.5G 38% / [19:30] sahk0: -h was invented long time ago :) [19:30] yeah :P [19:31] epoch: in that case, i can see your concern. it's just unusual to see such disproportion [19:31] sadsfae (n=sadsfae@funcamp.net) joined ##slackware. [19:31] i got it aliased. thought irssi would know that. dont know what happened [19:32] my home is nothing but dotfiles btw [19:32] rarely save anything there [19:33] kind of makes me wonder how many files are laying around the harddrive which could be deleted [19:33] http://pastebin.com/m60977578 you need a sensible partition scheme like this one [19:33] fadein (n=fadein@c-98-202-172-65.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [19:34] macius (n=macius@i209-195-82-145.cia.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:34] suid0 (i=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) left irc: "Leaving" [19:34] macius (n=macius@i209-195-82-145.cia.com) joined ##slackware. [19:34] Weird0ne (n=julianm@endeavor.jdrush.net) left irc: "leaving" [19:34] what is that reiserfs [19:35] all of it is ext3 except for swap on /dev/sda2 [19:35] one gig swap [19:36] Zosma (i=1000@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [19:37] rizitis (n=rizitis@unaffiliated/rizitis) left ##slackware. [19:38] Mmm does anybody know what creates the shadow- (dash) file? [19:38] ananke: btw i ve been meaning to ask you, do you use opensuse on desktop(s) along with your servers? [19:38] removing $USER/.local/akonadi saved me nearly 200megabytes on my car insurance [19:39] sahk0: yes. opensuse is our preferred desktop distro [19:39] mfillpot (n=mfillpot@pool-173-50-102-100.nrflva.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "I'm done for now" [19:39] i've heard suse is second to none for networking since novell took over [19:40] whats better about networking with suse? [19:41] it certainly suits our needs. not sure what the 'networking' part means though [19:41] ananke: just wondering, it tried it some time before christmas for the first time. seemed to me the most complex system ive used. even more complex than debian-based. but dont remember what was the exact things i didnt like about it [19:41] but you werent around to ask at the time [19:42] sahk0: as with most things, the more features/software you have, the more complex it will be. especially if you're unfamiliar with it :) [19:42] ananke is the only person who knows suse [19:42] He wrote it [19:42] indeed, i was on vacation in europe [19:42] Where'd you go? [19:43] straterra: i didnt mean he wasnt around to ask questions about suse so i ditched it. i have been meaning to ask wtf he finds appealing :P [19:43] s/have/had [19:44] sahk0: management of it is much easier, when it comes to deployments on a larger scale. [19:45] straterra: germany/poland [19:45] germany? I'd love to go there [19:45] I don't remember much high school german..but yeah [19:46] it's nice. i was lucky enough to fly during a short period of decent weather, in both directions [19:46] straterra: just speak really horrible german to germans.. then they instantly become willing to speak english with you :P [19:46] niiice [19:47] When I was in China..it snowed [19:47] test34 (n=test34@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [19:47] In an area that never snows. It was the first time most of the workers had even seen snow [19:47] dully (n=dully@adsl-75-34-63-166.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:48] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [19:51] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [19:53] yay can't get into X. [19:53] That was nicer area china [19:53] My next trip, I'm going to ghetto-get-abducted-and-become-a-sex-slave china [19:53] straterra: as always, pics or it didnt happen! :P [19:54] i dont think he'll have a problem being bukkaked on [19:54] mujahid (n=gabriel@189.120.130.32) joined ##slackware. [19:57] fantastic.. flash desided to lose audio again [19:58] omg, macavity uses flash?? [19:58] lol [19:58] i'm gonna tell stallman [19:59] macavity: experiencing that exact same thing [19:59] and then he is going to tell me that i have my freedom away for youtube.. to which i will agree [20:00] http://richard.stallman.usesthis.com/ [20:00] he will take your fsf badge away [20:00] silly though [20:01] macavity: any ideas on how to get rid of this? [20:01] NaCl: removpkg it, re-run browsers plugin detect, close browser, installpkg it, start browser :-/ [20:02] *sigh* [20:02] wonderful [20:04] Still doesn't work [20:05] Seems like everything is more quiet than usual anyway. [20:05] I have to like max out amarok to get reasonable sound out of it [20:09] initself (n=initself@li85-41.members.linode.com) left irc: "Lost terminal" [20:10] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) joined ##slackware. [20:12] neonflux (n=neonflux@64.134.220.101) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:12] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [20:14] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [20:15] So... i resume my laptop from suspend and now i have 868 megs of RAM instead of 2gb [20:15] according to htop [20:16] ^^Danielle (i=AFFIIgez@41.236.13.128) joined ##slackware. [20:16] perhaps another round of suspend resume will help [20:16] yay flash player works [20:16] perhaps checking other tools would give you a confirmation [20:17] It's just *really* quiet [20:17] regular top and free both say the same [20:17] never mind, I think alsa blew up [20:17] suspend resume -> brb [20:18] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [20:20] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) joined ##slackware. [20:21] Reticent1 (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) joined ##slackware. [20:21] Reticenti (n=reticent@unaffiliated/reticenti) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [20:21] 400mb now? [20:22] nooper, haha no still 860 after a reboot. Perhaps it's not seated correctly or something. I'll have to open this laptop up and see [20:22] hiptobecubic: new kernel? [20:22] 860 sounds like low memory [20:23] was it 2gb before suspending? [20:23] NaCl, yes, but i also had to take the laptop apart a few days ago and i didn't actually check to see if all my hardware was recognized the same. Wasn't expecting it. [20:23] ah [20:23] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) left irc: Client Quit [20:24] it's possible that it was also like this before the suspend. I just rebooted and it's still low so I assume it's not suspends fault :) [20:24] brokedown (n=not@unaffiliated/dedhed) joined ##slackware. [20:25] Politics (n=Blue@S0106001c109fc40c.ss.shawcable.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [20:32] sahk0 (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [20:33] hiptobecubic (n=john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) left irc: "For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint." [20:34] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:34] greetings and salutations [20:39] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) joined ##slackware. [20:39] slysyr (n=mike@cpe-76-180-26-186.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:40] asamoah_ (n=caio@190.244.48.80) left irc: Client Quit [20:41] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [20:44] Action: NaCl greets and salutes andarius [20:45] Agiofws (n=nnAgiofw@athedsl-422746.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:45] salutations NaCl [20:46] sup? [20:46] not sure yet. you ? [20:47] Pretty good, I think. [20:47] you think ? [20:48] A little tired, hard to tell. [20:49] Working on some code that is very susceptable to integer overflows [20:55] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:58] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:58] heya,folks [20:59] Zosma (i=1000@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) left irc: "leaving" [21:00] manwichmakeameal (n=tjones@97.86.29.42) left irc: "Leaving" [21:05] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [21:05] If I'm murdered, please mix my ashes into my girlfriend's chili so I can tear that ass up one last time. [21:08] Syllopsium (n=Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) joined ##slackware. [21:08] brb [21:08] dErFz (n=derf@217.18.70.128) joined ##slackware. [21:09] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [21:10] Zosma (i=jorrit@goudrenet.student.utwente.nl) joined ##slackware. [21:10] MLanden (n=MLanden@pool-162-84-115-225.norf.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [21:12] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. 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[21:27] "failed to make" isn't helpful [21:27] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:27] Syllopsium (n=Peter@blears.syllopsium.com) left irc: "Leaving." [21:27] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:27] Not like the error message is more helpful: "Creating package eboard-1.1.1-i386-1... FAILED!" [21:28] heh. [21:28] I'd just write a SlackBuild for it [21:28] there already is a slackbuild for it. [21:29] Mefached (i=1000@c-75-64-148-127.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [21:29] BP{k}: where? Not on SBo AFAICT [21:31] NaCl: hm I might be wrong actually, but the eboard-1.0.3.tar.bz is part of the slackware tree . [21:31] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [21:31] BP{k}: it just tab-completed [21:32] fraktil (n=fraktil@96.248.224.241) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:32] Razec (n=razec@187.22.99.109) joined ##slackware. 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[21:43] no idea [21:45] use /dev/disk/by-uuid ;) [21:45] no clue either [21:45] confusid: are they on the same disk controller? [21:45] danc3 (n=danc3@unaffiliated/danc3) joined ##slackware. [21:47] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [21:48] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-14-73.dyn.centurytel.net) joined ##slackware. [21:48] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.123.195.252) left irc: "Leaving" [21:49] fraktil (n=fraktil@ip68-227-80-107.sb.sd.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:49] ^^Danielle (i=AFFIIgez@41.236.13.128) left irc: No route to host [21:50] The-spiki (n=spiki@77-105-33-215.dialup.sezampro.yu) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:51] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:52] emma (n=em@unaffiliated/emma) joined ##slackware. [21:52] is there a frontend for jack audio that does not require qt4 - I have made several unsuccessful attempts to get an installable qt4 and I am a bit gunshy now [21:53] update to slack 13 :) [21:53] does it have the qt4 in it - that would be good news [21:54] yes [21:54] ok [21:54] otherwise, you tried the SBo build? [21:55] I just had to reboot a phone system with 200+ users :o [21:55] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@96.18.40.255) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:55] user count isnt important, active calls is :P [21:55] yes thrice` - qt has had a version storm since the last SB - I found the source in ftp but it did not compile - went into a loop [21:56] I was monitoring the SIP sessions...none! [21:56] muhahah [21:56] umm, so that is like saying you vacumed while every one was at home :P [21:57] Well, no sip sessions but who knows what was going on with the PRI [21:57] tuxdev__ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) joined ##slackware. [21:58] too late to worry now antiwire - just pretend it was the weather ;) [21:58] it should be back online in 30 more seconds [22:01] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) left irc: "leaving" [22:01] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:03] ananke, the way the board is setup I've tried all the connecters.. total of 5 but they are onboard psata ones.. [22:03] ananke, I should say.. it is an all in one mother board [22:04] confusid, what the mobo? [22:04] Kiboney (n=Kiboney@cpe-98-14-234-253.nyc.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [22:05] meant to say What is the make of the motherboard? [22:05] MLanden, MA78GM-US2H a gigabyte mb [22:06] got it at a real good price.. couph couph the pain after buying it :) [22:06] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) left irc: "...brb..." [22:06] confusid, thanks..checking the specs now...B-() [22:07] MLanden, ty [22:07] want me to post dmesg? [22:08] confusid, yeah,go ahead...one of us might be able to shed some light on the problem [22:08] ty getting it now [22:09] tuxdev_ (n=tim@unaffiliated/tuxdev) left irc: No route to host [22:09] Reticent1 (n=reticent@68-190-183-125.dhcp.reno.nv.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:09] http://pastebin.com/d6c8a603b [22:10] confusid, which kernel are you using? [22:10] Linux veronica 2.6.29.6-smp #2 SMP Mon Dec 7 16:02:16 CST 2009 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 7850 Dual-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux [22:11] latest dvd slackare 13 and all updates done and rebooted [22:11] the new hd I put in about 30 min before comming here [22:12] I see it's Miss. Vaun [22:15] could ahci be causing it not to read or check the hd's correctly? [22:15] gem_cat (n=gem@207-119-14-73.dyn.centurytel.net) left irc: Connection timed out [22:17] yes [22:17] However, I tested my system by switching to ahci just for kicks and it was fine. [22:17] andarius (n=andarius@c-67-191-170-126.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "there are many solutions, one just has to find the one most suited" [22:17] you might need to build an initrd but I am not sure anymore. I use my own kernels [22:17] mujahid (n=gabriel@189.120.130.32) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:18] confusid: wait a second. I just looked over that dmesg [22:18] antiwire, ? [22:18] What is the problem you are experiencing? I missed your initial question. [22:18] true,a custom build kernel might shed some light over the situation [22:18] both huge and generic have support for ahci [22:19] (obviously) [22:19] I had a lapy and ran centos on it about a year agoe.. and ahci alway's caused problems with it.. an hp lapy that was made for vista only.. the hd showed as sda even though it was an older ide [22:20] Based on that dmesg, we are seeing an ntfs-3g error, not a disk driver level error. [22:20] antiwire, the new hd i put in tonight shows as /dev/sda and it is a psata drive.. the first drive is /dev/hda and it's an older ide and other drive is /dev/hdb and its also a psata [22:20] I need to format it.. have not gotten that far yet [22:21] I mounted it just before loggin on to here [22:21] should I unmount it and rerun dmesg or would that not change? [22:21] Doesn't matter [22:21] benagain (n=benagain@ResNet-32-143.resnet.ucsb.edu) joined ##slackware. [22:21] k [22:22] correction.. the other drive is /dev/hdc not /dev/hdb [22:24] confusid, are both tabs to the older ide drives set to cable select(CS) ? [22:24] suid0 (n=suid0@unaffiliated/suid0) joined ##slackware. [22:24] MLanden, I hate to say I do not remember.. I beleave it is.. checking now.. will take me a moment [22:25] kingbeowulf (n=kingbeow@c-67-189-121-47.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:26] AlexElliott_ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [22:27] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) left irc: "My damn controlling terminal disappeared!" [22:27] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) joined ##slackware. [22:29] MLanden, there are no jumpers on this drive [22:29] it is a hitachi deskstar Model HDS721680PLA380 [22:31] vede (n=joshua@wsip-174-79-147-235.tu.ok.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [22:34] why would there be jumpers on a SATA drive? [22:34] xdan779 (n=daniel@c-24-12-115-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:34] v4nelle (n=van@79.103.187.101.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [22:34] ssc [22:34] this is my 2nd sats drive so I could not answer that [22:35] the other sata drive has 2 jumpers on it [22:35] grr.. found the spec sheet on this drive but it is pdf :( [22:36] daidoji (n=daidoji7@99.48.50.198) left irc: [22:36] http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/7k160/7k160.htm [22:36] :) ty [22:37] use okular to read pdf [22:37] okular++ [22:37] can I get that from slackbuild? [22:37] it is with KDE [22:37] okular is part of kde [22:38] dang macavity types faster... [22:38] anyhow, time to sleep [22:38] macavity (n=macavity@212088073003.static.sonofon.dk) left irc: "...And thanks for all the fish!" [22:38] still early here... [22:38] Razec (n=razec@187.22.99.109) left irc: "Leaving" [22:38] m0n-Eh (n=m0ney@adsl-70-233-149-86.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:39] AlexElliott (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:40] plutonium (n=plutoniu@80.85.119.109) left irc: Client Quit [22:41] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) left irc: "brb again" [22:43] confusid, some more info http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/cabling/deskstar4.htm [22:44] ty [22:46] strang .. the spot there is suppose to be jumpers in that picture this drive has a blank plate [22:47] plutonium (n=plutoniu@80.85.119.109) joined ##slackware. [22:48] MLanden, is there a page that's a how to on building my own kernel for slackware? I've never tried befor [22:50] confusid, http://www.slackbasics.org/html/kernel.html or from alien's blog http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=linux:kernelbuilding [22:51] Mlanden: beat me to it:) [22:51] heya,hitest [22:52] hiya MLanden;) [22:52] :) [22:52] jeez my typing sux [22:52] how are you? [22:53] just relaxin' for the night thanks and yourself,hitest? [22:53] compmstr (n=corey@adsl-074-185-008-197.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [22:53] compmstr (n=corey@adsl-074-185-008-197.sip.clt.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:54] I am well, MLanden, thank you:) same as you. relaxing, surfing, lurking on ##slackware:) [22:54] heya MLanden [22:54] hitest, cool [22:54] hiya fire|bird [22:54] heya,fire|bird..how's t going? [22:54] :) [22:54] heya hitest [22:54] MLanden: goinge great, thanks, you? [22:54] _guitarm1n_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-21.bchsia.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [22:54] how are you doing, fire|bird? [22:54] _guitarman_ (n=guitarma@d209-121-157-21.bchsia.telus.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:55] hitest: doing great, thanks. you? [22:55] doin' great thanks,fire|bird [22:55] MLanden: http://omploader.org/vM2R1OA [22:55] MLanden, ty :) I'll try a striped down kernel and see if it read's differently [22:55] confusid, good luck [22:55] I am doing well, thank you, fire|bird. I am a surfing, reading, and chilling [22:56] fire|bird, Is that newer KDE4 with opensuse? [22:56] MLanden: 4.3.95 (kde 4.4 rc2) [22:57] fire|bird, looks good..tryin' any of the engines from kde-look.org? [22:58] I've messed with bespin and aurorae, yeah. [22:59] Reticenti (n=reticent@unaffiliated/reticenti) joined ##slackware. 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[23:30] to run or think about? :P [23:30] darkwurm (n=dw@unaffiliated/darkwurm) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [23:31] fire|bird: that's a sweet picture. i'm guessing that's breaking the sound barrier? [23:31] agentc0re: yep .. sonic shockwave [23:31] agentc0re: indeed, http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/details/2143/sonic_boom%21%21.html [23:32] it is cool when they do that right over your house [23:32] that's just intense looking the way how it only cones a certain part of the plane. [23:33] F-18F superhornet by the looks of it [23:33] BP{k}: yeah. [23:34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_boom [23:36] funny BP{k} [23:36] "by the looks of it" [23:36] it says it right there! [23:38] actually it says "FA/18 Superhornet. which technically could be an E or an F. [23:38] besides FA/18 is an icorrect designation it's F/A-18 or F-18 .. just to put a fine point to it. ;) [23:39] wescotte (n=wescotte@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:40] notKlaatu (n=klaatu@unaffiliated/notklaatu) left irc: "leaving" [23:41] I'm getting a error in Lilo -> Ftal: First sector of /dev/sda1 doesn't have a valid boot signature. It's a Windows 7 install on a RAID 0 setup.. Do have I to do something fancy to get that working? [23:42] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. George Carlin" [23:42] wescotte: pray to god.... did you do this raid0 through an onboard raid controller or windows software raid? [23:43] controller [23:43] oobe (n=none@insidiousramblings.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:43] brokedown (n=not@unaffiliated/dedhed) left irc: "2.6.32.7" [23:43] wescotte: i seem to remember that instead of calling the device like /dev/sda, you will need to do something like 0x80 (bios device). [23:44] Is Grub more fit to handle this btw? [23:44] wescotte: you'll have to google, i don't remember exactly what to do but there is tons of stuff out there about it. [23:44] agentc0re: know how I can track down that bios device value? [23:44] wescotte: i dunno, i don't use grub. [23:45] wescotte: it's not like it will be a number from 0x00 to 0x80. it might be 0x80 or 0x81.. google around, you'll find the correct answer than what i am trying to remember. [23:46] BACK [23:47] antiwire, the 6 miles? [23:47] yeah [23:47] 4 times a week as hard as I can [23:48] antiwire: running, cycling, car ;) [23:48] mountain bike [23:48] hmm I think I'll be lazy and just disable my raid controller when I want linux to boot for now :) [23:48] grazymax (n=grazymax@host253-12-dynamic.26-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:48] not bad then :) [23:49] or make a USB boot device.. [23:49] if I don't do something taxing I don't sleep well [23:49] brokedown (n=not@unaffiliated/dedhed) joined ##slackware. [23:52] http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.32.7 [23:52] lol [23:52] wescotte: how was this so hard? http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LILO-6.html [23:53] wescotte: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LILO-4.html [23:53] retsudo (n=retsudo@unaffiliated/retsudo) joined ##slackware. [23:53] antiwire: qdid about 6 as well earlier today. [23:53] AlexElliott__ (n=alex@94-195-251-249.zone9.bethere.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [23:53] confusid (n=confusid@c-98-231-191-231.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:54] I think either 6 miles on a bike or 2 hours with a girl would let me sleep quite right [23:54] you need to go out and pick hit on the hawties then. [23:54] or a half gallon of beer [23:54] haha [23:55] half a gallon [23:55] lol [23:55] :D [23:55] zalost (n=keres@ip68-102-132-62.ks.ok.cox.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:55] I formated the new hd I put in and used 2 partitions and I have a tmpfs partition I did not creat.. http://pastebin.com/d365754ce [23:56] what is that? [23:56] agentc0re: heh doesn't look that tricky.. My googlefu is not as good as yours [23:56] it's not a partition [23:56] mbr? [23:56] m0n-E (n=m0ney@adsl-70-233-149-86.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [23:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmpfs [23:56] google [23:56] antiwire, BP{k}: Oh so Utah sold the last of their liquor licenses the other day. No more will be handed out so that means no new bars, or no restaurants that want to sell wine/mix drinks... etc. [23:57] sold/handed out.. however it's done. [23:57] that sucks [23:57] the waiting list for the ones they just handed people had been on there for years i believe. [23:58] You live in Utah? [23:58] jlarrew (n=WallRat0@cpe-70-123-139-126.austin.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [23:59] hm.. then 9 gig swap is an over kill.... [00:00] --- Fri Jan 29 2010