[00:00] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488364.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [00:01] macavity, yea...basically you can do stuff a shell script into the url of ddwrt and make it run as root, and since they all default to 192.168.1.1 and it needs no auth you can put the attack url in an tag and tell people to look, by doing that your shell script can install and execute (and open a root shell and notify you) [00:01] and you could just stuff it into tinyurl and tell people to click... [00:03] and i think the worst part is its a router, its one of those things people just don't update and it could be configured to sniff traffic and send off credentials to wherever [00:03] Oh, btw: http://slackware.com/~rworkman/kde43.jpg :-) [00:03] rworkman, so bright and cheery... [00:04] wsp4th (n=wperry@adsl-074-167-057-025.sip.jan.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [00:05] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:05] and i can't do that grey on black terminal (and its not even black is it? its grey on grey) [00:06] edman007: it can, that grey on grey/pastel colour scheme is just the default it seems [00:06] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.88.15.2) joined ##slackware. [00:07] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.72.193) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:07] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:07] mohaa (i=1000@92.49.83.62) joined ##slackware. [00:08] i3lack0p (n=wperry@adsl-074-167-057-025.sip.jan.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:08] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [00:09] BP{k}, rworkman http://imgur.com/GJ9nw.png <- that is how stuff should look, the window i'm working on is maximized, the slit is hidden, and i have one application (emacs) on the desktop [00:09] john_dee (n=id@89.179.30.155) joined ##slackware. [00:10] hrm.. [00:10] "that how it should look" and "emacs" in one sentence ... [00:10] my POS alert went off and I see because "emacs" was used [00:10] lol [00:10] Action: edman007 slaps Dominian and BP{k} [00:11] 1995 called. They want their unusable crap back. ;-) [00:11] ..and rworkman [00:11] hehe [00:11] rworkman will be like "Thank you Sir! May I have another?!" [00:11] emacs vs vim will never die will it [00:11] nano ftw [00:11] pico4life. [00:11] i've never learned to use emacs [00:11] although my shell is still set to emacs editing [00:11] While we're there with 1995, I'm going to try out the HS graduation again - I'm going to a different girl's house; the one I chose didn't work out like I planned. [00:12] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:12] rworkman: yeah syphillis wasn't part of the "deal" was it? [00:12] No, and neither was the act that would possibly lead to it. [00:12] heh [00:13] he didn't get any that night? [00:13] (hence my desire to try again) ;-) [00:13] Nope. [00:14] Granted, this was before I figured out that being *nice* all the time was *not* the way to get tulips. [00:14] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:14] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [00:15] I was 20 before I *really* got all of that figured out. Then, at least according to my wife's version of the story, I made up for lost time. [00:17] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@173.71.95.82) left irc: "Leaving" [00:17] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) joined ##slackware. [00:17] lol [00:18] chopp (n=chopp@unaffiliated/chopp) joined ##slackware. [00:18] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [00:18] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [00:19] antiwire: did you say you had tried the older intel drivers? 2.6.3 and/or 2.5.1? [00:19] Action: edman007 runs kernel 1.1.1 [00:20] rworkman: Yeah, I had tried all of the drivers that were posted in the current update where Pat added a few drivers [00:20] lintin (n=jason@c-24-60-35-105.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:20] rworkman: btw, one of those two refuses to compile against "our way".. i dont remember which one [00:21] skibur (n=skibur@adsl-66-142-84-79.dsl.snantx.swbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:22] ChamanGT (n=ChamanGT@unaffiliated/chamangt) left irc: "Saliendo" [00:22] rworkman: just pull eviljames by the ear untill he actually test what you told him to, and update his QL.org post accordingly ;-) [00:24] rworkman: as i am seriously about to crash... tomorrow is probably going to be demanding as hell.. i have a new gamer laptop to set up for the youngest kid, and a workstation to upgrade to -current for the GF, which gives opotinity to test the two radeon cards [00:24] G'night :) [00:25] oh, while the crap installs i can try again and see which of the two older intel ones that wouldnt compile [00:26] and why.. 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[00:30] rworkman, next time macavity joins kick him [00:39] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:39] Nick change: slackmag1c -> slackmagic [00:47] Nick change: Gutzmek -> Gutz [00:47] L337_CodeMonkey (n=Bob@c-98-211-32-46.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [00:47] Nick change: Gutz -> afk-Gutz [00:48] john_dee (n=id@89.179.30.155) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [00:48] cmair (n=cmair@host218-111-dynamic.24-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [00:48] slackmag1c (n=magician@pool-173-57-58-121.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [00:49] I installed phpMyAdmin. When you run the browser I get this error: Forbidden [00:49] You do not have permission to access / phpMyAdmin on this server. [00:49] What must I do? [00:50] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [00:50] make sure all the access permssions, both in Apache and on the folder itself, are correct [00:50] Try hitting index.php directly. [00:50] Also, check the apache error log [00:52] http://10.105.3.1/phpmyadmin/index.php or http://10.105.3.1/index.php [00:53] inside the pma directory. [00:55] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [00:55] john_dee (n=id@93-81-136-184.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [00:56] L337_CodeMonkey (n=Bob@c-98-211-32-46.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [00:57] user39683759 (n=ldfkjhfs@ppp-69-223-56-154.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. [00:59] user39683759 (n=ldfkjhfs@ppp-69-223-56-154.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: Client Quit [00:59] user39683759 (n=ldfkjhfs@ppp-69-223-56-154.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) joined ##slackware. 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[01:17] hey guys. can someone plz tell me how i can obtain slackware 64 bit. no i'm not interested in slamd64. i saw on the homepage there was slackware 64 bit [01:19] slackware64 is in -current form. You can make your own images [01:19] there are unofficially created images here [01:19] ftp://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/ISO-images/slackware/Current-ISO-build/ [01:20] antiwire, ok thanks [01:21] cmair (n=cmair@host218-111-dynamic.24-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:25] anyone know how to resize text in the GIMP? [01:25] there are no docs on it [01:25] Chakravanti (n=dkwhit@in-67-236-111-170.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [01:26] does anyone know if I can use UUID=XXX format in my fstab for a luks volume? I see that ls -alh /dev/disk/by-uuid shows a UUID for /dev/mapper/$CRYPTEDVOL [01:27] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.82.62) joined ##slackware. [01:27] dchmelik: you mean change a font size or or resize a drawn character? [01:27] change a font size... but I figured it out now [01:28] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [01:28] Chakravanti (n=dkwhit@in-67-236-111-170.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:29] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) joined ##slackware. [01:29] well, I guess I'll try this anyway [01:31] init[1] (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [01:32] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [01:34] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [01:37] koriel (n=koriel@ppp-94-69-57-0.home.otenet.gr) left irc: [01:38] user39683759_ (n=ldfkjhfs@adsl-76-250-128-175.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [01:40] RaptorX (n=RaptorX@leer-4db71d88.pool.einsundeins.de) left ##slackware ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org"). [01:42] Nick change: slackmag1c -> slackmagic [01:43] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.88.15.2) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:43] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) joined ##slackware. [01:43] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [01:43] yep it works [01:44] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [01:44] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) joined ##slackware. [01:44] john_dee (n=id@93-81-136-184.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [01:46] john_dee (n=id@93-81-136-184.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [01:47] hufnus (n=slonsiki@69-12-177-67.dsl.static.sonic.net) left irc: Client Quit [01:49] UrchLap (n=urchlay@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [01:49] Nick change: UrchLap -> Urchlay [01:49] *tap tap*, is this thing on? [01:49] no [01:50] figures [01:51] though if you're a figment of my imagination, I don't like what that says about my subconscious [01:51] hmmmmm, fig. [01:51] i haven't had figs in a long ass time [01:51] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:51] dried figs > sex [01:51] eh, not really, no [01:52] yes, absolutely [01:52] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:52] well, not american ones [01:52] i mean i dunno where we get ours from but it's definitely not an american plantation or something [01:52] so for all i know, you've probably never really had fig [01:52] only way I've ever eaten figs is those fig newton cookie things [01:52] nom [01:52] I get figs from my next door neighbor [01:52] lol [01:53] Urchlay, sad [01:53] I ate a whole packet of fig rolls last night [01:53] you ever had pomogranite? [01:53] we have a pomegranate tree [01:53] pomograntate whatever [01:53] it seems like i just noticed people here are noticing it [01:54] yeah, had those [01:54] i've been pounding it since i was a wee baby [01:54] not good to have when sick i think [01:54] pomegranate <--- my entry into the spelling sweepstakes [01:54] lol [01:54] oh, antiwire already said that, nm [01:54] i dont care [01:54] pornogranite! [01:55] i have aspell in pidgin [01:55] cheater [01:55] I actually know how to spell :) [01:57] Figs suck. Muscadines are good. [01:57] user39683759 (n=ldfkjhfs@ppp-69-223-56-154.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:57] yah, they are. grandpa used to grow them [01:57] he called em "musky dimes" or thereabouts [01:57] lol pornogranite [01:57] Action: rworkman is upgrading the firewall to -current at the moment so I can test the 865 chipset. [01:57] i [01:58] Urchlay: yep :) Closely related to "scuppernongs" [01:58] I don't know how to spell that or even if it's a word. [01:58] rworkman: Hopefully you experience the same problem because if you don't it suggests that the problem could be on a system by system basis [01:58] er, I just discovered something... wpa_supplicant is smart enough to bind to an unsecured AP, if it fails to authenticate [01:58] depending on how the chipset was implemented [01:59] "scuppernong" I think I've seen in print before [01:59] antiwire: I think it is. I see lots of bug reports on other distros with that chipset -- it's working but has minor issues. [01:59] what the hell is a Muscadine [02:00] Isn't the 865 caught out by the dropping of EXA? [02:00] actually hm. Is wpa_supplicant being "smart" or "hideously insecure"? (not complaining, I just moved to a new place and fired up laptop and it Just Worked... but some paranoid types might cringe at that) [02:00] LSD`: not in the 2.7.1 intel driver, it shouldn't be. In 2.8.0, sure. [02:00] Urchlay: it sounds like you have a catch all entry [02:00] jeev: sort of a grape. Not sure if it's actually a grape, or just a grape-like entity [02:00] looks weird [02:01] antiwire: if the default config has a catch-all, I have it (didn't change much from the default) [02:01] Yeah, the fruit is sweet like a grape (but better tasting), and the skin is almost sour. Very good combo. [02:01] nasty [02:01] let me guess, you ahve it with toenail soup [02:01] network={ \disabled=1 \key_mgmt=NONE\} [02:01] Urchlay: something like that [02:01] only not screwed up [02:01] yep, I do have that. Must be in the conf file by default [02:01] rworkman, get slackware64-current running with the stacklet.com set up! [02:02] Urchlay: i keep that entry disabled [02:02] s/get/got/ ? [02:02] i need the img to get into this really cool virtualization management software [02:02] haha no [02:02] i treied but i'm having some issues [02:02] Oh, you need it. That would be LOW on my priority list right now. [02:02] too lazy to figure it out [02:02] :< [02:02] I want coffee and a cigar at 01:00 AM. My doctors nightmare. yaaaaaaawn [02:02] haha [02:02] antiwire: yeah, I can see why you might. I'm not real worried (I can use unencrypted wireless or live without internet, probably the only options I have right now) [02:02] chroot'ign gives me missing stuff like 'rev' cannot find rev [02:02] i dunno [02:03] Urchlay: it's not so much the unencrypted part, it's the rogue access point issue [02:03] dtanner: coffee & a cigar sounds good right about now (it's 2AM here) [02:03] I just realized why it's so damn hot in here. I have seven computers running in a 10x8 (feet) room. [02:03] a default catch all for unencrypted APs exposes you to possible rogue AP attacks [02:03] coffee doesn't do anything to me [02:03] Urchlay: yes and I have a 1926 Padron in my humidor that I want really bad! =) [02:03] rworkman, that was me when i was 16 [02:04] and i wondered why i never got sleep [02:04] antiwire: makes sense. Actually, for all I know, I'm using the neighbors' AP right now (everyone's asleep here but me) [02:04] This is my computer room, not my bedroom :) [02:04] mine was my bedroom ;D [02:04] Urchlay, you thief [02:04] it's radio. If they don't want people to pick up their radio station, they shouldn't be broadcasting it... [02:05] rworkman: you probably sleep in your computer room? like fall asleep at the terminal and have wild sex on the desk. [02:05] dtanner, that's nasty [02:05] knock knock Neo. Follow the white rabbit. [02:05] can't imagine being in a 8x10 room with 7 running computers + a probably giant office chair, and being able to find a comfortable way to sleep [02:06] Action: LSD` can and does [02:06] it would be hot [02:06] w/o AC [02:06] (unless it's maybe 8x10 meters instead of feet) [02:06] 10x8 is a small room [02:06] but dead silence annoys me more than noise so... [02:06] yeah, I just moved into a room about that size [02:07] like I *just* moved, today. Has its own A/C that would probably be good enough for a room twice the size [02:08] with 7 running PCa [02:08] PCs* [02:09] ? [02:09] nope [02:09] there will be 3 running PCs eventually if you count this laptop [02:09] (4, if you count my Atari 800, but it doesn't stay up 24/7) [02:10] I only have about 5. 7 if you count hte lappies in here atm, but they don't contriubte to the ambient noiselevel all that much [02:10] atari 800 ... [02:10] eviljames: a bit late but it's not very nsfw ;) [02:10] dtanner: nah, that would risk damage to a computer. The hydraulics in this chair, however, are rather weak. :/ [02:10] I miss my main laptop. my toshiba got too hot a few times and it is no good anymore. whoever thought of putting ventilation on the BOTTOM of a laptop should be shot. [02:10] The fans in the Phenom II aren't overly noisy either, they get drowned out by the two P4s in the corner for the most part [02:11] Hrm, I think it's 10x12 actually, but the point remains the same. [02:11] dtanner: that's better than where Apple put it [02:11] 10x12 is much better than 8 [02:12] LSD`: where did apple put it? [02:12] dtanner: amen. Though my laptop's been OK so far, with the stupid little legs on bottom extended [02:12] eviljames: a bit late but it's not very nsfw ;) [02:12] Action: dtanner is apple ignorant. [02:12] morning :) [02:12] (by "so far" I mean since 2002, probably the hard drive will die before the rest of it) [02:12] eviljames aint here [02:12] yo Camarade_Tux [02:12] dtanner: in the spine of hte machine behind the screen hinge [02:12] I keep a bamboo cutting board under my laptop [02:12] he's being gay with his neighbor at t he moment [02:13] jeev: that's nasty [02:13] poor eviljames is not here to defend himself either. [02:13] i told him the same thing [02:13] heh [02:13] unless his neighbor is a woman [02:13] because he's gettin dirty [02:13] na it's a hairy man [02:13] true dat [02:13] ewww [02:14] looks like this: http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Third_Party_Photo/2007/07/08/1183924297_9091.jpg [02:14] eviljames isn't gay tho [02:14] superGear: if is neighbour was a woman then he wouldn't exactly be "getting gay" with her, would he? :P [02:14] good point LSD` [02:14] LSD`, lesbians [02:14] damn I want some cappucino [02:14] I think a guy can be gay with a woman if he makes her wear a strap on and use it on him [02:14] freaks! all of you! [02:14] ewww [02:15] you guys are nasty, what the hell are you talking about [02:15] slackware [02:15] jeev: yeah, I know he isn't here but he'll eventually see the message :D [02:15] yo fire|bird :) [02:15] all i did was say he was getting gay at the moment.. you guys added utilities [02:15] jeev started it [02:16] jeev, watches the .avi [02:16] -, [02:16] ugh. [02:16] superGears-mom-with-horses.avi [02:16] yea baby [02:16] i forget that "gay" has so many meaning nowadays. [02:16] necro-beastality? [02:16] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:16] :< [02:17] please, just one time.. let me pee on myself so i could shine [02:17] jeev: now who is nasty? [02:17] ... [02:17] JEEZ JEEV [02:17] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-80-206.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:17] anyone ever use those "click to call me" things on websites and put the 800 number to the same website? [02:17] where IS your mind? [02:17] it's so funny sometimes [02:17] you see it go on for like 2 minutes [02:17] http://flux88.com/blog/a-deleted-response-to-a-tfs-blog-post/ ^^ [02:17] maybe byteframe will need help and get us off this subject [02:18] (sfw btw) [02:18] byteframe is just as bad as the rest of us [02:18] Que Pasa? [02:18] byteframe is eviljames's neighbor. [02:18] Nick change: dtanner -> your-all-freaks [02:18] e [02:18] youre [02:18] yes i know anal man [02:19] jeev needs to get some [02:19] superGear, i know. [02:19] anal over my spelling [02:19] it'll be a long time unless if i cheat [02:19] lol your-all-freaks [02:19] wife prego? [02:19] if you would be cheating then you should be getting some [02:19] girlfriend virgin! [02:19] ... [02:19] oh! wow! unheard of [02:19] something about morals [02:19] deflower [02:19] Nick change: your-all-freaks -> dtanner [02:19] she's perfect though, i dont miss sex that much [02:20] uhm [02:20] what's there to miss, it's 3 minutes and done [02:20] your definition of perfect differs from mine (and most peoples) [02:20] wtf [02:20] i've always been like that, no matter who i've been with! [02:20] i'm telling you mofo's i have ADHD [02:20] you're doing it wrong. [02:20] lol [02:20] 3 minute man [02:20] they call you the Minuteman? [02:20] ;) [02:20] no [02:20] i love focus ;DDD [02:20] lose [02:21] ok do we need to know how long jeev can last? [02:21] superGear: maybe we should ask eviljames [02:21] stop the insanity [02:21] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left irc: "You make your own luck in life." [02:22] yall made antiwire quit [02:22] he wishes he could touch me [02:22] sQuEE (n=narya@host20.201-252-18.telecom.net.ar) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:22] bbiab [02:22] adeodatus (n=RF@92.82.82.62) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:22] I think jeev REALLY needs some [02:22] eh, so [02:22] anything else we could talk about? [02:23] dtanner [02:23] oopps [02:23] read that as anyone [02:23] ok I am going to make cappucino [02:23] Definite YDIW. Wow. [02:24] and I'm lost in scrollback. [02:24] rworkman: most of the past few minutes aren't worth reading anyway [02:24] type /clear [02:24] Yeah, I noticed. :/ [02:24] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [02:24] How is rworkman doing these days? [02:25] Busy. :/ [02:25] WB antiwire we missed you [02:25] I mean I admit I'm kind of silly and talk about off-topic stuff, but even by my standards that was terrible [02:25] Mine too. [02:25] sQuEE (n=narya@host20.201-252-18.telecom.net.ar) joined ##slackware. [02:25] I switched lilo.conf and fstab over to UUIDs instead of paths now [02:25] that way I can mess with different IDE/ATA drivers and not need to change fstab [02:25] jeev: Kermit wants his ring back: http://www.cslacker.com/images/file/mediums/kermit_nooo.jpg [02:26] :) [02:26] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-253.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [02:26] antiwire: what's the advantage of that? you can move drives around? [02:26] oh, sometimes /dev/hda masquerades as sda? [02:26] hda is cdrom for me [02:26] Urchlay: I can use different drivers when i need to or hotswap my media bay hard drive with my dvd-r module while I have USB drives attached [02:26] err [02:26] no hdb is cdrom [02:27] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-245-24.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:27] superGear: I have one of those jump drives that pretends to be both a CD-ROM and a hard disk [02:28] I wrote a script that lets me hotswap my media bay units and if I ever tried to do that while a USB flash drive was plugged in the, the script could get the wrong disk [02:28] now that script, fstab and lilo.conf all use UUIDs instead [02:28] hilarity ensues when I try to burn CDs while that thing's plugged in (it'll show up as /dev/cdrom, or anyway it did once) [02:28] do you guys think a pc with 1.6ghz cpu,1024mb of ram will be able to run kde4 smoothly? [02:28] deco, yes [02:29] byteframe: oh good i was trying to stay away from kde3 because i was not sure kde4 will be as smooth on my pc [02:29] deco: works fine on a Thinkpad T30 with lower specs than that [02:29] good vid card for effects [02:29] run gnome instead of kde [02:29] rworkman: oh wow [02:29] disable effects, they're annoying anyway [02:29] eww gnome [02:30] (in general I mean. I have no specific complaint about KDE's effects) [02:30] yeah i have an nvidia geforece go 32mb so effects are out! :P [02:30] gefeces [02:32] last time I used a 32M vid card, it was for work, only needed 2D so I told X to use 8M only, and set up the rest as a memory device, and swapped on it [02:32] good night boys and girls and rworkman [02:32] Urchlay: so you used as ram ? [02:32] 32 megs a sizable ammount. [02:32] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [02:32] (IIRC the kernel needed patching for that to work) [02:33] Urchlay: nvm i get it now [02:33] deco: as a ramdisk. It was a PCI card, access was slower than regular RAM, but it still blows a hard disk away [02:33] Urchlay: oh [02:34] my gigabit network is faster than any of the disk IO on any of my systems [02:34] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:35] this is the kinda creative/desperate response to management's refusal to buy me a new computer (it was 3 yrs old when I got it, used it 3yrs, by then the new hire secretary/phonegirl all had 4 or 5 times the machine I had, and I was the primary developer...) [02:35] the network easily saturates all of my systems [02:35] Urchlay: see, that's good, that forces you to be more creative ;) [02:35] Urchlay: was the secretary/phonegirl hot? :P [02:35] be all "hey baby, can i borrow your box for the night?" [02:36] of course they used excel spreadsheets as a contact list, with office 2007 they probably needed all that machine [02:36] (or anyway I'm told it's a pig) [02:36] a pig, that's a compliment for that [02:36] LSD`: a couple of them were. The only one who was actually cool was the 400lb scary-looking one [02:36] Office 2007 ran alright on my brothers Eee 901 :P [02:36] Urchlay: you used slackware on it? :P [02:37] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:37] deco: on what? my crappy dev box with video card swap? of course [02:37] Urchlay: yeah [02:37] LSD`: eee(k)! [02:37] *druuums*, pun! thaks [02:37] s/thaks/thanks/ [02:37] yeah, the servers all ran slackware too (except the one that ran openBSD for hysterical raisins) [02:39] like the ones that did those commercials in the 80's? [02:39] I suppose [02:39] =P [02:40] haha: http://www.osnews.com/story/21897/Opera_Apple_Ubuntu_Should_Include_Browser_Ballot_Screen_Too (like windows will do) [02:40] (heh, I had to think for a minute to figure out what you meant, my fingers typed "hysterical raisins" by themselves, I really meant to say "historical reasons") [02:40] dhabyx (n=dhabyx@unaffiliated/dhabyx) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:40] slackmag1c (n=magician@pool-173-57-58-121.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [02:40] lol rworkman [02:40] that was messed up [02:40] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-245-24.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "leaving" [02:40] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-120.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:41] Is there a scriptable way to change my IP address without disconnect my DSL modem and reconnecting it again? [02:41] is it your primary ip ? [02:41] oh wait [02:41] it's dhcp ? [02:41] Camarade_Tux: that seems fair to me. It bugs me somewhat that MS are continually being held to a different standard on stuff like this than Apple or the Linux crowd [02:41] LSD`: yeah, to me too ;) [02:41] redtricycle... [02:42] but there's a problem with opera in ubuntu... it's not exactly foss [02:42] NetworkWorld interviewed Håkon Wium Lie, Opera Software's CTO. <--- the guy's name is Lie? [02:42] you trust this company? [02:43] maybe they've ... lol ;p [02:43] i need a foot massage [02:43] I don't read that "lie" but "lee" ;p [02:43] yeah lee I would assume [02:43] Opera could of course also make a browser that people actually want to install. Just a suggestion. <--- nice ending to the article :) [02:43] lies! [02:44] jeev: ya, dhcp [02:44] Action: dtanner smacks tewmten because he is such an old-time slacker and still so young [02:44] how are you planning on changing it [02:44] when you unplug it and plug it back in you get a new ip? [02:44] Unplugging the modem [02:44] and replugging it in [02:44] or are you changing your mac [02:44] dtanner: you beat up kids now, eh? [02:44] I don't know [02:44] so just try [02:44] dtanner: go back to your porch, gramps' [02:44] bah! [02:44] ifconfig eth0 down [02:44] :D [02:45] then ifconfig eth0 up [02:45] Well, no [02:45] maybe that does it ? [02:45] if I do that [02:45] I get the same IP [02:45] I'm takling about gateway ip [02:45] not the network IP [02:45] tewmten: well I DO have two grand children [02:45] you're trying to change your gateway ip ? [02:45] ya [02:45] superGear: g'night (sorry re delay) [02:45] how,why? [02:45] tewmten: and my youngest child is now 22 [02:45] redtricycle: you mean the WAN ip, the internet live IP [02:45] ? [02:45] what are you trying to change it to [02:45] dtanner: hey im 23 :p [02:45] Anything else [02:46] yes, the WAN ip [02:46] tewmten: youngster! [02:46] why would you change your gateway, if you dont have the correct gateway then you get no internet [02:46] dood are you drunk [02:46] dtanner: yeah man.. :D [02:46] jeev: he wants to get a new WNA ip [02:46] i wish i was drunk [02:46] WAN [02:46] you can bind what you're given unless if you figure out some ips that are available that wont get you in trouble [02:46] ...I might mistakenly calling it [02:46] i told him [02:46] ifconfig eth0 down [02:46] change your mac address [02:46] ifconfig eth0 up [02:46] Oh. [02:46] that usually does it [02:46] I'll try that [02:46] tewmten: don't worry, time will FLY and you will be 40 quicker than you realize. [02:46] So by changing the MAC address [02:46] redtricycle: is your router a linux box? [02:46] my router is a DSL modem [02:46] dtanner: i guess so [02:46] that SBC gave me [02:47] redtricycle: is it natting? [02:47] heh, why are you asking in here? [02:47] How do I tell if ti's NATting? [02:47] redtricycle: is it's LAN side IP private? [02:47] as in 192.168.*.* or another private range [02:47] yes [02:47] 192.168.*.* [02:47] ok then you are most likely out of luck [02:47] I want to change the IP that other people see me have [02:47] you get what they give you on the wan side [02:48] Oh, can't I ask for another one? [02:48] not usually [02:48] So the only way to do it is to unplug my modem and plug it back in? [02:48] hrm [02:48] if you had a system that was under your control being the modem/router you could od what jeev said [02:48] Is there a way to force-expire my IP? [02:48] and request a new one? [02:48] try power cycling the modem [02:49] *Your* ip isn't yours. [02:49] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:49] If you have a 192.168/16 address, anyway. [02:49] twolf_ (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) joined ##slackware. [02:50] redtricycle: is this like you setup? intarwebz---[modem/router]---192.168.*.*---[home network] so [02:51] so in that case you're stuck since you don't have access on the modem/router combo device to control the interfaces. [02:51] you're stuck power cycling [02:51] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [02:51] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:52] if you had a modem card in a slackware box being your router, you might have more flexibility [02:52] hey im first time installing 13rc1 , just curious due to the new package format does it take time to decompress ? during installation? [02:52] tewmten: I remember on my 25th bday.. I was thinking "wow I am at the quarter century mark!". Now I am creeping up on 50. [02:52] init[1]: it always took time and in the changelog you'd see what pat said about that [02:53] init[1]: I would think that it would not have been changed if it was any slower. [02:53] dtanner: almost time to put you down old timer! [02:53] Action: tewmten goes and gets his 12 gauge [02:53] :P [02:53] in Sweden we call it "nödslakt" [02:53] ooh :) [02:53] it means "emergency slaughter" [02:54] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:54] antiwire: yes [02:54] okay... [02:54] per the changelog "xz offers better compression than even bzip2, but still offers good extraction performance (about 3 times better than bzip2 and not much slower than gzip in our testing)." [02:54] hmmmm [02:54] interesting [02:54] so there's no way to have my slackware box BE the router AND connected? [02:54] if so, then I could do it, right? [02:54] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD899F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [02:54] morning [02:55] IIRC xz uses LZMA, which is designed to be highly compressed and require little in the way of decoding memory. [02:55] redtricycle: well it is being done right as it is. your modem is just attached to your router which is an embedded device in this case [02:55] antiwire: yea , well i think it may be due to the fact that im using a VM, any i haven't checked it on my actual system :) [02:55] yo slackytude :) [02:55] bedtime [02:55] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) left ##slackware ("/"). [02:55] y0 init[1] [02:56] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [02:57] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-245-24.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [02:57] what's the tool that's similer to apt-get ? [02:57] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@173-18-58-139.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [02:57] deco: there is not offical tool like that [02:57] redtricycle: that is very do-able. my router was my main workstation at one point. not a great idea but I did it. [02:57] slapt-get? or better slackpkg [02:57] s/not/no/ [02:57] slackytude: yes! thanks [02:57] I actually prefer sbopkg [02:58] i prefer PKGTOOLS [02:58] I prefer watermelon. [02:58] deco, no one is gonna help you if you mess up your system with slapt-get [02:58] rworkman: lol [02:58] instead we will all ppinjt at you and laugh [02:58] err, point [02:58] not sure how that happened [02:59] I can't understand why people have to have so many package management options. pkgtools works just fine damnit! =) [02:59] a750mhzslinky (n=a750mhzs@74.197.94.13) joined ##slackware. [03:00] hey during installation, its seems to install radom packges like atimes from /l or /x or /n [03:00] twolf (n=twolf@unaffiliated/dwolf) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:00] I prefer cantelope over watermelon. [03:00] mmmm good cigar. [03:00] _marc` (n=marc@cl-2515.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) joined ##slackware. [03:01] Morning all [03:02] morning [03:03] user39683759_ (n=ldfkjhfs@adsl-76-250-128-175.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [03:04] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [03:05] how many here use mutt? [03:05] oldschool [03:05] I used to use it not too long ago [03:06] back when men where real men [03:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:06] ...we're all replicants now... [03:06] well,so no you are not man any more ? slackytude ? [03:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:06] :P [03:06] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:06] s/no/now/ [03:07] init[1]: nope, he isn't. :P [03:07] slackytude: had a gender change... ;) [03:07] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "End Of Line" [03:07] hey fire|bird [03:07] omh! [03:07] omg [03:07] hey LF4 [03:07] slackytude! =) [03:07] ...and women were real women... [03:07] slackytude: wanted to ask you if you thought hardware was more expensive in germany than in the us or uk [03:07] y0 Camarade_Tux [03:08] lol, gender change. s/slackytude/slackytrudy/ :P [03:08] Action: slackytude slaps fire|bird [03:08] :D [03:08] Camarade_Tux, I have no idea. I buy second hand only for years now [03:08] john_dee (n=id@93-81-136-184.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [03:08] slackytude: I see [03:09] slackytude: there is something I want to buy but it's 205 euros in France, 150 in Germany, 115 in the US [03:09] dread|speedily [03:09] (but the rate is good for us) [03:09] Camarade_Tux, a hologram? [03:09] er, I mean, fire|bird [03:09] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:09] slackytude: he, no, a music player ;) [03:10] my mpr player broke yesterday [03:10] Action: slackytude is sad [03:11] slackytude: mine broke months ago, I can't stand it anymore, I neeeeeed one! [03:11] actually I dreamt I had one tonight and I was more than happy, but then I woke up and I was still happy but not for long ='( [03:11] Action: init[1] doesn't even have a music player :( [03:11] Action: pprkut has a very good Cowon D2 :D [03:11] imagine: 55 hour of battery life [03:12] pprkut: I want a Cowon S9 ;) [03:12] I have 3 music players, they're in a band with me, we play music... [03:12] Urchlay: do you take them with you in the subway? =P [03:12] eh, we don't know 55 hours worth of songs [03:12] Camarade_Tux: I like the D2's design a bit better. Though I'm certain the S9 has a better overall performance [03:12] Camarade_Tux: I might, if I lived somewhere that actually had a subway [03:12] yskapell (n=gkapel@195.134.89.99) joined ##slackware. [03:13] it took me five days to play two discographies: Black Sabbath first and then Pink Floyd ;) [03:13] good morning guys [03:13] Urchlay: hmmm, the bus then? [03:13] morning yskapell [03:13] but probably not, it's sorta hard to move giant amps and drums on the subway (or on a bus) [03:13] especially with the power cord I guess [03:14] I have setup from cups web interface an epson network printer (model M2000) using the driver for C2000 and when I sent a test page I get this error [03:14] "recoverable: Network host '172.16.0.102' is busy; will retry in 15 seconds..." [03:14] Printer Driver: Epson AcuLaser C2000 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.3 [03:15] any idea? [03:15] gotta go, bbl [03:15] Action: Camarade_Tux knows nothing about cups [03:16] Action: init[1] doesn't even have printer :P [03:16] yskapell, that could mean anything. check cables and connection [03:17] I gave up caring about making CUPS happy when I realised I only had to tell it a printer was there and I could print RAW from the clients [03:18] slackytude: the printer works and the cables are fine [03:18] Action: slackytude nods [03:18] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:18] raw printing is usually the easiest. or general PS [03:19] raw lkets you use the normal printer drivers on the client end, much easier than fiddling about with CUPS/PostScript wrappers [03:19] yskapell, can you ping the host or otherwise access it? [03:19] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) left irc: [03:19] I can ping it 64 bytes from 172.16.0.129: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=2.14 ms [03:21] LSD`: you mean, windows clients using manufacturer's windows drivers? [03:22] yskapell, sorry, pal, dunno. [03:22] Urchlay: Mostly, but I'vfe had Mac and Linux clients through it too [03:25] when using a cups server with linux clients, I like to have the clients send postscript (easier to set up on the client, rather do the complicated stuff once on the server) [03:26] the really fun printing task: having linux clients print to a specialty printer that only works on windows (in this case, an ID card printer) [03:26] since i only have one cd right now im froced to install a just a base system do i install the rest of the system using an internet connection ? [03:26] how do i install* oops [03:26] slackytude: it is the driver... [03:26] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:27] deco, slackpkg can do that. or use wget or rsync from any mirror [03:28] through various hacks, I was able to get the windows box to accept postscript print jobs... IIRC I had to install ghostscript on the windows print server, plus some utility called "redmon" to redirect ghostscript's output to the printer... ugh. [03:28] slackytude: oh i think slackpkg will be easier [03:28] slackytude: thans [03:28] I have a Logitech USB camera. I would like is used to create the image. Where I have instructions on how to do it. [03:28] thanks* [03:28] Urchlay: That assumes your printer understands postscript and is supported by CUPS under the OS the server runs. This one wasn't, and I wasn't about to go out and find one that was. [03:28] or maybe redmon was to redirect the (fake) networked laserwriter's output to the real printer. *shrug*, anyway it was annoying [03:29] Urchlay, fun [03:29] printers without GS support should be taken out and shoot [03:29] LSD`: actually cups can be set up to take postscript input and spit out whatever the printer needs (meaning the first problem goes away, but not the 2nd one) [03:29] guys, is slackpkg reliable for updating the slackware? [03:29] Urchlay: again, assuming hte printer has a driver that supports that under your OS [03:30] my real solution to print problems: don't own a printer. 99.9% of what gets printed is a waste of dead trees anyway [03:31] the only things I ever used to print that were worth printing were driving directions (so I could read 'em in the car) [03:31] yskapell: that and slapt-get with the "OFFICIAL" keyword for your sources, yes [03:32] of course this is at home (and I don't live in an office), YMMV [03:32] The way I have it set up now, Mac and Linux clients are more of an issue than Windows :P [03:32] OffPlanet (n=meler@adsl-68-127-119-37.dsl.frsn02.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [03:32] It took two days to get it set up to do that (mostly because I kept barking up wrong trees), but it's more than paid for itself now [03:33] OffPlanet (n=meler@adsl-68-127-119-37.dsl.frsn02.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:33] so the windows boxes send raw printer language (whatever it really is) over the wire? [03:34] Yeah, only way it could really work under FreeBSD [03:34] as in, printer wasn't supported by cups or anything else useful on fbsd? that could pose a problem, yah [03:35] yeah, having FreeBSD on the server was something of a complication, but I wasn't about to put Linux on it just to get the printer working [03:35] I could probably have done that with the ID card printer, except the "client" was really a web server running slackware [03:36] naw, changing OS just to make one piece of hardware work is usually a rotten idea [03:37] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-80-206.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:37] Linux, Mac and Windows all have print drivers with the appropriate rasteriser but FreeBSD didn't. I wasted far too much time thinking I had to get the Linux driver working under FreeBSD for this all to work before I stumbled upon being able to send client rasterise data directly to the server >_< [03:37] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-79-99.bstnma.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [03:37] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-245-24.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [03:38] hm, even tho it was a dead end approach, I'm sorta surprised you couldn't get the linux driver working on bsd [03:41] Part of this specific driver are Linux scripts/binaries that don't translate very well to FBSD. I found a guide that said you could run it through FreeBSDs linuxulator, but couldn't get it working that way either [03:41] Starchaser (n=geek@80.66.88.130) joined ##slackware. [03:41] redtricycle (n=redtricy@adsl-68-124-184-120.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [03:41] ugh. People who write unportable code need to be forced to port some of it sometime... [03:42] i wonder why firefox wasnt updated in 12.2 to 3.0.12 yet [03:42] strange [03:42] I mean all a printer driver has to do is read standard input and write standard output, should be nothing system-dependent there unless you're dealing with precompiled binary blobs I suppose [03:42] only guess is Pat was getting ready to release 13.0 but the intel driver quirks messed with his plans [03:43] Urchlay: yeah, this driver is kind of weird [03:43] sahko: is 3.0.12 a security update? [03:43] it takes the data in, passes it out to an external (binary) rasteriser and then feeds it on to the printer [03:43] Urchlay: all firefox releases are :P [03:44] http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0.12/releasenotes/ [03:45] thanks for that, I was looking in the ftp directory in vain for the changelog/readme/whatever (it's there all right, you have to download the whole damn release to get it though) [03:45] uh, that reminds me, I wanted to install prism on work [03:46] snearch (n=olaf@82.113.106.4) joined ##slackware. [03:47] Crash and remote code execution during Flash player unloading <--- too bad it doesn't say "loading", I might think my browser could stop crashing on *all* non-youtube video sites [03:47] youtube works fine, nothing else does :( [03:47] no problem with flash here [03:48] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-51-147.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:48] you on 64bit? [03:48] hey just found some problem with 13rc1, i did an *su* as a normal user to run *xorgsetup*,but it says only root can run it :( [03:49] well it did jump to root of course [03:49] init[1]: works fine here [03:49] hmm, [03:49] yeah [03:49] Urchlay: is it fine there? [03:50] Bugz (n=Bugz@75.42.51.147) joined ##slackware. [03:50] init[1]: huh? no, I was answering slackytude (I'm on 64bit) [03:50] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [03:50] tltstc (n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [03:50] slackytude: my only 32-bit slack installs are 12.2, they're fine [03:50] :) [03:53] init[1]: btw "i did an *su* as a normal user" means "i logged in as root" right? [03:53] snearch (n=olaf@82.113.106.4) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [03:53] otherwise it doesnt make much sense [03:53] sahko: i mean after su [03:53] snearch (n=olaf@82.113.106.4) joined ##slackware. [03:54] yeah, after su you are logged in as root [03:54] Bugz (n=Bugz@75.42.51.147) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:54] yes , well i will give the screen shot of what it says [03:54] Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-51-147.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [03:55] well I'll be damned. I just found myself on youtube... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srrkZoGbVrM [03:55] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:56] (I can't really tell from my crappy laptop speakers, is the audio any good at all?) [03:56] andrew_46 (n=andrew@pdpc/supporter/active/andrew46) joined ##slackware. [03:57] uva_ (i=bno@118-168-233-27.dynamic.hinet.net) joined ##slackware. [03:57] sound quality is quite good. are you the hunk playing the guitar? [03:58] john_dee (n=id@93-81-136-184.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [03:58] heh, I'm the chewbacca-looking bass player [03:59] respect! 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[04:10] heh [04:11] just go on stage after everyone drunk some beer [04:11] dranl [04:11] drank [04:11] actually that was in a public park, no alcohol allowed :( [04:12] snearch (n=olaf@82.113.106.4) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:13] bah [04:13] Nick change: init[1] -> Guest71188 [04:14] freealan (n=freealan@218-174-133-253.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Client Quit [04:14] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [04:16] supposedly that guy Tony hasn't had a drink in a month [04:17] is he sick? [04:18] hey , i got dc after i pasted this link http://imagebin.org/57453 about *su* issue in 13rc1 , is any one facing this issue ? [04:19] ugh. *** libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in nav_read.c:263 *** [04:19] *** for dsi->dsi_gi.zero1 == 0 *** [04:19] A: 893.1 V: 893.1 A-V: 0.008 ct: -0.329 17542/17542 20% 9% 1.9% 0 0 [04:19] Channel flood from Urchlay -- kicking [04:19] *** libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in nav_read.c:263 *** [04:19] Urchlay kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [04:19] init[1], try su - [04:19] Urchlay (n=urchlay@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [04:19] dammit, I only meant to paste one line [04:19] init[1]: you need to su - not just su [04:20] but, all these days in 12.2 i was using simple *su* to jump to root [04:20] hmm. [04:21] "su -" always, never plain su [04:21] although even so, I wonder what dumb thing xorgsetup is doing to make it think it's not root [04:22] aah.. ok.. now its working. . [04:22] the problem is that 'xorgsetup' looks for $USER == 'root' instead of the more correct $UID == 0 [04:22] not using '-' to use root's environment will keep $USER the same as it was, but $UID will be 0 [04:23] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [04:23] yea i get it now :) SiegeX :) [04:23] Hello! [04:23] I usually say: if [ "`id -u`" != 0 ], or else the old way I did it was if [ "`whoami`" != "root" ] [04:24] although maybe running xorgsetup as UID = 0 without root's environment may be a bad idea anyway [04:24] I don't really trust shell variables, especially if my script might ever run on some other shell [04:24] (does ksh auto-set a $UID variable? netbsd posix sh?) [04:25] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [04:25] running anything as root without root's environment set up is problematic: slackware's default user PATH has . in it [04:26] $ cd /tmp [04:26] hey is xorgconfig missing? [04:27] # iv somefile <--- typo, meant to say "vi". If /tmp/iv exists and is +x, it'll run with root privs! [04:27] uva (i=bno@118-168-233-27.dynamic.hinet.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:27] (and any jackhole can write to /tmp of course) [04:28] i would like to see slackware's script use #!/bin/bash because I'm pretty sure slackware would not work very well if bash weren't installed [04:28] s/script/scripts [04:28] the new is to do $() not ` ` [04:29] yeah, I agree [04:29] ` ` is depreceated [04:29] Action: nix_chix0r benchpresses slackytude [04:29] alisonken1noc (n=alisonke@ip-66-33-206-8.dreamhost.com) joined ##slackware. [04:29] slackytude: "deprecated" maybe, but any bourne-like shell that doesn't support it, I'd consider horribly broken [04:30] $() is in SuS [04:30] this damn DVD is taking like 30 seconds to skip forward 60 seconds [04:30] and probably posix [04:30] http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xcu/chap2.html#tag_001_006_003 [04:30] I bet `` are in both standards too [04:31] ya, but deprecated [04:31] since they can't nest [04:31] and it makes my eyes spawn kittens [04:31] maybe I'm not clever enough to think of one, but I've just never had a need for nested `` [04:32] mostly it just looks pretty unwieldy when you have a command that uses single quotes too [04:32] Guest71188 (i=buffer@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:32] color syntax highlighting :) [04:33] Reav__ (n=Reaver@h15a2.n2.ips.mtn.co.ug) joined ##slackware. [04:33] im color blind you insensitive clod! [04:33] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [04:33] I write new scripts with $() when I remember to, I just resent someone randomly correcting my examples when I only posted 'em to be making conversation [04:33] heh, j/k [04:34] dakarn (n=skas@83.225.97.218) left irc: Connection timed out [04:34] SiegeX: I'm going to buy you one of these: http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/fuck-the-colorblind/ [04:34] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: ";)" [04:34] dakarn (n=skas@83.225.97.218) joined ##slackware. [04:35] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Connection timed out [04:36] apoca (n=apoca@haydn.n2.nognu.de) joined ##slackware. [04:36] (somehow that would be funnier if the URL weren't human readable) [04:36] hi there [04:38] damn I can't see it [04:39] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.73) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:39] why did slackware drop the "dump"-backup-utility? [04:40] a750mhzslinky: say "computer, enhance" (preferably in a fake Scottish accent). If it doesn't work, try picking up your mouse & talking into it like a microphone [04:40] kejen (n=brian@c-67-184-251-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:40] Action: tuvok302 has the page 3/10th's loaded [04:40] mako-dono (n=mako@81.22.26.39) joined ##slackware. [04:41] apoca: Linux in general doesn't have the "dump" utility (it's specific to the filesystem, there's a "dumpe2fs" but no "dumpreiserfs" for example) [04:41] Urchlay, lol I know I'm color blind but not bad enough to be restricted for any job....but that one gets me [04:41] a750mhzslinky: oh damn, you're seriously color blind? now I feel like a real asshole :( [04:41] darchstar (n=ameer@cpe-65-25-12-68.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:42] actually though, I got a dumbish question: I used to work for a colorblind guy, and never understood how he could drive at night [04:42] in the daytime you can memorize the traffic light positions [04:42] (top = stop, bottom = go) [04:43] at night, you can't see the rest of the traffic light assembly, how can you tell? [04:43] Urchlay: but dumpe2fs only displays the filesystem-information, so it's not really what I meant ;-) [04:43] unless the lights are sideways - then it's left stop, right go [04:43] Urchlay, don't like I said its not that bad...I find it interesting...plus I have always read that the flaw that makes you not see red allows you to see more shades of brown than others....actually now that I think about might explain abit on the ubuntard themes [04:43] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [04:44] apoca: oh, I thought for some reason it was a dump-type utility. Anyway there's never been a generic "dump" in slackware (so it wasn't actually dropped) [04:44] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [04:44] alisonken1noc: I never see sideways traffic lights, if I were colorblind and saw my first-ever sideways traffic light, I'd probably get killed :( [04:45] Action: tuvok302 lols at the shirt [04:45] so I may have to build the dump-tool for ext3 from source? [04:46] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [04:46] tuvok302: when I worked for the color-blind guy, after a few years of being treated like crap, I wanted to wear one of those to work... but there were too many ass-kissers there, he would have been told about it [04:46] apoca: what source? Pretty sure it just doesn't exist... feel free to prove me wrong though (seriously, do, it'd be useful to be wrong about that) [04:47] Urchlay, well, it's unfortunate the ass-kissers broke your fun. I'm going to have to remember to order me one of those incase I ever find someone colour blind [04:47] Urchlay: well, http://dump.sourceforge.net looks like what I'm talking about :) [04:47] hm. I just discovered "restore" exists on my slackware box, but not "dump". WTF? [04:48] restore is part of the gnu-tar-package, although I don't understand how you would use "restore" without "dump" :D [04:48] U2 (n=chatzill@203.99.185.68) joined ##slackware. [04:48] yeah, me either [04:49] or what it's doing in the tar package [04:49] U2 (n=chatzill@203.99.185.68) left ##slackware. [04:50] apoca: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/dump/ [04:51] that appears to be what you want (the .slackbuild script will make you a nice installable .tgz package) [04:51] uh, cool [04:51] I didn't found that one, thanks :) [04:52] always search on slackbuilds.org first :) [04:52] just bookmarked it [04:52] Urchlay: GNU tar 1.13.25 to 1.14 Changelog: New scripts: backup (replaces old level-0 and level-1) and restore. The scripts are compiled and installed if --enable-backup-scripts option is given to configure. [04:52] mako-sama (n=mako@81.22.21.157) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:53] I was right about one thing, the dump FAQ says: There is currently no dump for ReiserFS. [04:54] spounds like it needs some metamucil [04:54] sahko: I disagree with the decision to name the command "restore" (other UNIXes have a "restore" command that does something completely different, and other Linuxes might too) [04:55] tar-restore or gnu-restore or something would have been better choices [04:56] no objection from me "restore" is quite generic [04:56] see also: the slackware rename command vs. the debian rename command (completely different), or "par" the paragraph formatter vs. "par" the rar-file parity checker :( [04:58] also "pinfo" the info and man page viewer vs. "pinfo" the z-code (infocom text game) interpreter, but probably us few old farts who still play infocom games, all use "frotz" for that [04:58] rename is from util-linux-ng [04:59] does debian still ship util-linux? [05:01] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) left irc: "reiserfs" [05:01] packages.debian.org ;) [05:02] it was more of a rhetorical question [05:02] ah :P [05:02] Action: Camarade_Tux just arrived and still sees a violet point in the middle of the screen because of the projector [05:04] the other rename is in the perl source distribution, as a sample perl script (which turns out to be amazingly useful, better than the util-linux-ng rename, but requires perl knowledge to use it) [05:06] LnxSlck (i=1000@89.214.25.146) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:06] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422737.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [05:06] with standard rename, if you want to turn all spaces in a bunch of filenames into _, you can't (rename " " _ *, but that only changes the first space in each filename... there's no global option) [05:08] the perl one, you go "rename 's/ /_/g' *", or better yet "rename 's/\s+/ /g'" (which is cryptic as hell for the uninitiated, but a lot more powerful) [05:08] he, you don't need to know perl, you only need to know regexp (in perl syntax ;p ) [05:09] err, that second command ought to be "rename 's/\s+/_/g' *" [05:09] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt5-port-216.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [05:10] Camarade_Tux: true. Still, the dumber version of rename is a lot easier to use (provided you only want it to do the simple things it can do) [05:10] rename htm html *.html <---- easy to use, isn't it? [05:11] actually I find that harder to use ;) [05:11] it's hard to have it do what you want [05:12] yeah, if you have a file called "how_to_write_html.htm", it'll end up "how_to_write_htmll.htm" [05:12] (could have user .htm .html in the rename command to avoid that) [05:13] ;) [05:15] anyway I should try to sleep [05:16] just moved to a new place, it's always hard for me to sleep in unfamiliar surroundings [05:16] I also want to sleep :( but it's 11am and I'm at work ;-) [05:17] I'm at work to and I have to play with avidemux ^^ [05:17] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [05:17] meh [05:18] I have to port our main-library-system onto a slackware-machine [05:18] it's running with these old coff-binaries, so I even had to patch the kernel [05:18] ouch [05:18] no sources available? [05:19] good night then, Urchlay [05:19] Action: slackytude is playing with prism [05:19] nope, the system is like 25 years old and the machine with the sources on it is unaccessable for unknown reasons [05:19] apoca: sounds like you could make a good case for rewriting it from scratch [05:20] backing up would be a good idea too :D [05:20] (which sucks, but might suck less than what you're doing now, and the result would probably be a lot nicer to use) [05:20] that doesnt sound like a fun job [05:20] um... I think that would be way too hard for me, as I'm just an apprentice ;-) [05:21] actually, stuff like that kind of is fun to me (appeals to the perverse side of my nature). Not too long ago, was helping someone get a reaally ancient proprietary program working on modern slackware [05:21] actually was kinda fun [05:21] eh [05:22] Urchlay: _perverse side_! [05:22] yeah. Most people have a good side and an evil side. I have a perverse side and an apathetic side. [05:22] heh [05:23] go to sleep [05:23] ;) [05:23] "I'm too *smart* to sleep!" [05:23] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [05:23] (direct ren & stimpy quote this time instead of paraphrasing... bleah, I shouldn't be awake) [05:24] and all I can say about your porting efforts is: If you don't COFF, you don't get off! [05:24] Urchlay (n=urchlay@c-67-191-211-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: ":wq!" [05:24] oh god [05:24] someone stab me in my eyes [05:25] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) left irc: [05:25] Action: slackytude stabs dakarn in the eyes [05:26] what is COFF? [05:26] is it related to COFFEE? [05:26] file format that predates [05:26] ELF [05:26] no relationship to coffee at all [05:26] ah, ok [05:27] but coffee is a good topic, time to get one [05:27] but i could use some coffee now [05:27] brb [05:27] :o [05:27] stybla (n=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [05:27] \o/ coffee [05:27] have we both been brainwashed by slacky =( [05:27] no, you havent been brainwashed [05:28] Action: slackytude waves his hand, jdei style [05:28] jedi [05:28] Action: dakarn waves his sheep hook, jebidiah style [05:31] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) joined ##slackware. [05:31] bayrouni (n=bayrouni@162.214-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [05:32] frullet (n=hooch@124-170-165-176.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined ##slackware. [05:37] srecko (n=srecko@78-1-185-229.adsl.net.t-com.hr) left irc: "Leaving." [05:38] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [05:40] WTF-8 (n=WTF-8@77.252.38.130) joined ##slackware. [05:40] WTF-8 (n=WTF-8@77.252.38.130) left ##slackware. [05:42] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) left irc: ":)" [05:44] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@93.37.157.116) joined ##slackware. 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[06:24] slackytude: yeah :) [06:24] well, yeah but shes getting married next week [06:24] yo WTF-8 [06:25] slackytude: quick, only one week left! :D [06:25] Camarade_Tux, cool. from nix_chix0r ? [06:25] y0 WTF-8 [06:25] slackytude: errr, not really, from her dog :D [06:25] :( [06:26] she told me you'd enjoy them :D [06:26] lies! [06:27] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [06:27] she told me you had asked for such pics in the past! [06:28] dirty lies! [06:28] well, have any one tried to boot slackware iso image from from harddisk , [06:28] its seem affordable for me :) [06:28] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) left ##slackware. [06:28] how do you want to do that? :o [06:28] from lilo [06:28] you can't boot an *iso* that way [06:29] have a >= 64MB usb stick? [06:29] Camarade_Tux: actually not the exact iso image [06:29] Camarade_Tux: i have to dwload 30MB of USB image again with 10/KB/s connection [06:29] already 476MB took 2 days [06:29] :P [06:30] that too stripped down slackware [06:30] maybe the image can be compressed [06:31] Camarade_Tux: you mean , the usb? [06:31] yeah [06:31] its on the mirror [06:31] i haven't downloaded it yey [06:31] yet [06:31] actually it's only 28MB ;) [06:31] yea i know here it shows 27MB [06:31] :P [06:32] Camarade_Tux: it is possible to boot the image .. [06:32] he, the slackware64 one is smaller (20MB) :P [06:32] omg! cut it out Camarade_Tux :) [06:32] lem1 (n=root@86.81.102.210) joined ##slackware. [06:33] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) joined ##slackware. [06:33] (bah, that download is slow, only 150KB/s =/ ) [06:34] init[1]: where do you live? [06:34] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [06:35] Planet Earth - more specifically India , where Internet connection is not cheap [06:36] Nick change: Drgb -> BOFH [06:41] planet earth? what a dump [06:41] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [06:41] slackytude: that way a joke , aaa ,can't you figure that out :) [06:42] s/way/was/ [06:43] init[1]: if you want, I can make the usbboot.img 1MB smaller ;p [06:43] thats almost 1000kB ! [06:43] ^^ [06:43] at 1KB/s, it is more than 15 minutes ;p [06:43] wow ..did you try 7z? [06:44] xz manages 950KB ans gzip about 55OKB [06:45] so the present size is 29 MB according to you? [06:45] and bzip2 less than that :D [06:45] 28MB and 27MB with xz [06:45] stybla (i=stybla@anubis.turnovfree.net) joined ##slackware. [06:45] init[1]: do the macdonalds have wifi? [06:45] Camarade_Tux: http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t305843.html <- thing is i can't figure out where to put the isolinux image [06:46] init[1], you could download using aria ... after you download and build it. [06:46] init[1], but it's only 1.3M [06:46] can be image compressed with xz? for xzImage? [06:46] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [06:47] slava_dp (n=slava@83.170.208.10) joined ##slackware. [06:47] Camarade_Tux: yes they have , are you asking me to go there for dwload ? [06:48] hi ppl =) [06:48] mingdao: aria ? well im googling that now :) [06:48] init[1]: lechio's message seems good engouh [06:49] init[1]: nah, I'm not telling that, ... :D [06:49] paissad-hp (n=paissad@18.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:49] yo slava_dp [06:49] lechio? [06:49] on neowin.net [06:49] http://sourceforge.net/projects/aria2/ [06:49] rapid (n=rapid@unaffiliated/rapid) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:50] can I add own package series to the setup-process? Do I have to change the dvd or is it enough to create a directory for the series on a nfs-share, for example? [06:52] apoca: you will have to modify the installer for that [06:52] The setup menus are hardcoded for Slackware [06:53] cant you modify the tag files anymore? [06:53] I already have modified the tagfiles, which works great [06:53] I think I will just add my own packages to an existing series, makes it much easier [06:53] alienBOB: is there any way to configure lilo to boot the extracted iso image from harddisk , without usbimg [06:54] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [06:56] unrelated: avidemux is very very ugly, some plugins have a terrible coding-style: for instance, ADM_assert(a=b) return 0; [06:57] dakarn (n=skas@83.225.97.218) left irc: Success [06:57] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [06:57] dakarn (n=skas@83.225.97.218) joined ##slackware. [06:59] l00t- (n=i-i3id3r@189.105.32.230) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:03] CtrlAltCa (n=fabio@kvirc/developer/CtrlAltCa) left irc: "byez" [07:03] adupuis (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [07:06] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [07:08] Perhaps it's a brain fart, but can someone enlighten me as to how I came up with this: [07:08] mingdao@jeremiah:~$ mount [07:08] /dev/root on / type jfs (rw,relatime) [07:08] heh [07:08] /dev/root [07:08] nice [07:08] Never on a Slackware box have I seen /dev/root mounted, nor relatime. [07:08] I have a suspicion where it came from, but don't know how. [07:08] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488364.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [07:08] I was hoping someone with experience would say, "Yeah, < > did that." [07:09] Is Dominian around this evening? [07:09] you mean "/dev/root on / type xfs (rw,relatime,attr2,noquota)" ? [07:09] Strykar (n=wakka@122.169.91.212) left irc: Connection timed out [07:09] No, I mean just what I posted ... that's the entire line. [07:10] Did GrUB do that when I installed another 64-bit OS before alienBOB finished Slackware64? [07:10] mingdao: and I wanted t say I also have /dev/root and relatime here and haven't changed anything in this regard [07:11] How did you get it Camarade_Tux? [07:11] fAu (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:11] guess that's default at least in slackware64 [07:11] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: ";)" [07:11] It's not on this box. [07:11] mingdao@silas64:~$ mount [07:11] /dev/md5 on / type jfs (rw) [07:11] Maybe cause of RAID? [07:12] I've looked on every box in this LAN, and this is ... wait, one box is off atm. [07:12] I also have a RAID-installation, and /dev/root is a symlink to the real-device [07:12] Camarade_Tux, you have no other *nix on that box, and use LiLO? [07:12] yes [07:13] I should be beaten close to death for trying a distro with a pkg mgr; or anything but Slack. [07:13] I thought that was the culprit. [07:13] ok, I'll just ggVG= and that'll solve all that tab and space mix [07:13] I'll know in about 20 minutes or so, because I'm removing everything in the ext partition and installing fresh. [07:13] we can beat to death without any good reason too :) [07:14] tks [07:14] /dev/root has been used for some time now (if that's the query?) [07:14] oh, =, I love you [07:14] dive, I got 5 other boxen without it. [07:14] which sw versions? [07:15] and _installed_ with which version? (I guess upgrading won't touch the fstab) [07:15] when I installed 12.2 fresh on this laptop it used /dev/root but that's the only box I've got it on. My other boxes were upgraded since around 10 [07:15] Slackware64 -current, Slackware -current, Slackware-12.1, Slackware 10.1, Slackware-12.2. [07:16] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.201.102.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:16] mahui@china:~$ cat /etc/slackware-version [07:16] Slackware 13.0.0.0.0 [07:16] mahui@china:~$ mount [07:16] Channel flood from mingdao -- kicking [07:16] /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=continue,data=ordered) [07:16] mingdao kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [07:16] was sure it was going to happen [07:16] yep [07:17] mingdao (i=nobody@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [07:17] mingdao@silas64:~$ cat /etc/slackware-version [07:17] Slackware-x86_64 13.0 [07:17] mingdao@silas64:~$ mount [07:17] Channel flood from mingdao -- kicking [07:17] /dev/md5 on / type jfs (rw) [07:17] mingdao kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [07:18] mingdao (i=nobody@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [07:18] lol, thats great [07:18] groundhog day [07:18] mingdao: pastebin :P [07:18] fantastic [07:18] mingdao, http://pastebin.slackadelic.com [07:18] Buggaboo (n=Buggab00@a83-163-47-192.adsl.xs4all.nl) joined ##slackware. [07:18] hi guys [07:18] Is there something like split (python) or explode (php) in bash? [07:19] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) left irc: "Leaving." [07:19] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-574100269b314354) joined ##slackware. [07:19] awk? sed? cut? [07:19] :) [07:19] err #bash? [07:19] Buggaboo: yes... for i in ` cat file` ; do echo $i; done [07:20] that's not really like explode/split :| [07:20] if you cant use space as a delimiter, use the IFS=something to use that something as the field delimiter [07:20] if you are specifically wanting to split an array? [07:20] arrays in bash are messy [07:20] there is also the -printf0 and friends for many tools to use the null as delimiter [07:21] rhys (n=rhys@cpe-174-100-128-195.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [07:21] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [07:21] I'm using mdb-tables (from mdb-tools) to extract the table names from an old ms access database file, and I can use a '@' as a delimiter, since the column names use spaces. [07:22] I want to loop through it, but the only way I know how to do this is by using spaces... [07:23] hence the desire to use arrays... [07:23] you might find perl better for that [07:23] perl has much better array handling than bash [07:23] Buggaboo: use IFS=@ [07:23] why not use php or python as you already mentioned? [07:24] then use the normal loops... all bash tools will use the @ as delimiter [07:24] or perl? [07:24] or LOLCODE [07:24] :) [07:24] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) joined ##slackware. [07:24] its the future of computer programming [07:24] :D [07:24] This task does not require a huge language to do it... [07:25] how 'bout C++ then? [07:25] HEIEHIEHI [07:25] so I hesitate to whip out the perl/python/lisp/lua/php/... [07:25] tewmten: not true, ook and malbolge are the future! [07:26] I suggest you guys take a peek at 'whitespace' while you're at it. [07:26] ocaml [07:26] Action: Camarade_Tux hides [07:26] budo (n=budo@75-93-145-99.rch.clearwire-dns.net) joined ##slackware. [07:27] I have to try ocaml, many of my friends recommend it. Although I'm not smart enough for haskell to make anything practical with it, like prolog. [07:27] replace smart with masochistic. [07:27] then how 'bout some good ole' FORTRAN? on punched cards! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/CIMA_mg_8383.jpg [07:27] yep ;) [07:28] wow, are people in the business of selling drivers now n days ? [07:28] can anyone reach linuxtracker.org [07:28] ? [07:29] http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/linuxtracker.org [07:29] i always forget the url of that thing [07:30] can't remember it either ;) [07:32] oh, horror [07:32] http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/infosecurity/65562/ [07:32] jackie chan advertising antivirus [07:33] The IFS=@ is a good one higuita [07:33] i wonder why would he need a helmet if ke killed all the viruses with his kang-foo [07:33] ludverc (n=ludverc@dsl91ECCE56.pool.t-online.hu) joined ##slackware. [07:33] john_dee: keep flash disabled, it will save your eyes ;) [07:34] Camarade_Tux: i'm about to believe that :) [07:35] dive, http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/PNiKg599.html [07:35] john_dee: he, worked for me; ;) [07:35] tho, unplugging the network cable would be even safer [07:35] john_dee: and irc, you wouldn't have irc anymore! [07:36] mingdao, does it really bother you? [07:36] ... [07:36] I'm fairly sure that any new slackware install will use /dev/root [07:36] Just curious. [07:37] Camarade_Tux: that'd hurt %) [07:37] Like I said, I'll know if a few minutes. [07:37] upgraded ones probably won't [07:37] It won't be upgraded. [07:37] It's a symlink to the device: [07:37] yes [07:37] mingdao@jeremiah:~$ ls -l /dev/root [07:37] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-07-28 19:38 /dev/root -> sda7 [07:37] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [07:38] have a look through your udev rules [07:38] bayrouni (n=bayrouni@162.214-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:38] Anyway, things bother me that other people don't think twice about. [07:38] I was really wondering if the other 64-bit OS I installed that had grub had somehow done that. [07:38] Though I can't see how. [07:39] no it's not limited to tha [07:39] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: Client Quit [07:39] Different things bother different guys, you know. [07:39] I did a standard clean install of 12.2 on a laptop and it did it [07:39] I see a thread in LQ where a guy is bothered about his hard disk LED. [07:40] standard using lilo, stock kernel etc [07:40] mingdao, did anyone suggest covering it with insulation tape or duct tape? [07:40] I would have [07:41] You'd have to read his thread. [07:41] He said something like the smart ass response would be to pull the LED plug. [07:41] So I didn't reply. [07:41] ;) [07:41] heh [07:41] I got my little world blown away this week on something else. [07:41] lmao2k (n=nothere@82-34-242-225.cable.ubr01.chms.blueyonder.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [07:42] I was told and found out that mdsum can fail ... can return false evidence. [07:42] oh? [07:42] that's bad [07:42] Did you know that? [07:42] not until now [07:42] kiwidude (n=email@ip-118-90-9-194.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) joined ##slackware. [07:42] join #java [07:42] sorry [07:42] I tried two other methods when the guy told me. [07:43] So now I use "cmp" [07:43] I had thrown a SATA DVD burner out, and replaced it with a PATA thinking the burner was bad. ;) [07:44] bayrouni (n=bayrouni@57.236-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) joined ##slackware. [07:44] kiwidude, we're also sorry that you want to join #java ;-) [07:46] you mean that there are "collisions" with md5? [07:46] _RadioHead (n=DevBox@82.114.88.11) joined ##slackware. [07:46] dive++ ;p [07:46] java is ugly [07:47] Action: mingdao takes another sip of java [07:47] Camarade_Tux, you'll have to explain that to me. [07:48] mingdao: any hashing algorithm has the same problem [07:48] correction: java is fugly. [07:48] mingdao: the output of your hashing algorithm is a finite number, but the inputs are infinite, THERE MUST BE collisions [07:48] go with scala, jython, clojure, anything but java. [07:49] ocaml :) [07:49] Camarade_Tux, I mean there are apparently some harmless zeroes added by hardware/burning (CD/ISO specification) [07:49] mingdao, two different files can have the same md5sum [07:49] mingdao, which is called a collision [07:49] Pers'nally I prefer jython. [07:49] So how does one know when they have a collision, and when they have a bad burn? [07:49] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [07:49] guessing [07:49] You guys are learning me. [07:49] its a bad butn most likely [07:49] burn [07:50] jython! [07:50] hi [07:50] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:50] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) joined ##slackware. [07:50] y0 The-Croupier [07:50] hey [07:50] slackytude, jerl [07:50] hows it going guys? [07:51] 4 hours of work to go [07:51] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) joined ##slackware. [07:51] 2hellish ones here [07:51] er, make that 3 [07:51] 3 hours to go here too. [07:51] time for smoke break [07:51] exporting a stupid ms access database from 9 years ago to something sane. [07:51] hi The-Croupier [07:52] hi Camarade_Tux [07:52] whats new in the interweb hood [07:52] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [07:53] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [07:53] hi people... i just installed centos as a guest (qemu and slackware 12.2 host) but centos won't boot if kqemu is used... it is fine with no kqemu (but slow)... it gets stuck on 'enabling passive release on 0000:00:01.0'.... any ideas? [07:54] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [07:55] zoran119, which versions qemu and kqemu? [07:55] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [07:56] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [07:56] dive: qemu-0.10.5-i486-1_SBo and kqemu-1.4.0pre1_2.6.27.8_smp-i486-1_SBo [07:57] uname -r ? [07:58] windows xp pro [07:58] ... [07:58] Action: Buggaboo smack The-Croupier with a trout [07:58] don't slackbuilds pack the man-page into the package? I was just wondering cause I installed a build package on another machine and the man-page is missing :( [07:58] The-Croupier (n=the-crou@petrostsi1.ath.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Java user signed off" [07:59] apoca, usually yes if there is one [07:59] apoca, which sb? [07:59] zoran119, what' does your 'uname -r' return? [08:01] Buggaboo: 2.6.27.8-smp custom compile [08:02] Buggaboo: it returns '2.6.27.8-smp' which is a custom compiled kernel... sorry for being unclear [08:02] dive: [08:02] [##slackware] [08:02] wouh [08:02] sorry, wrong copy-pasta [08:03] nheco (n=nheco_nh@201-41-15-53.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) joined ##slackware. [08:03] dive: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/dump/ [08:03] the machine where I build the package has the man-page, another machine doesn't [08:05] zoran119, does your machine return anything with this `egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo` [08:05] zoran119, I just checked my centos 5.3 with same versions qemu and kqemu - no problems. Perhaps the centos version?# [08:05] sometimes intel boards turn off the vmx stuff. [08:05] turn it on in the bios. [08:06] Buggaboo: yes it does... it has vmx flag [08:06] Buggaboo: so check in the bios? [08:06] apoca, did you read that page about the man pages? [08:07] seems there is a conflict [08:07] zoran119, modprobe kvm-intel kvm [08:08] dive: centos 5.3 as well... [08:08] zoran119, does that work for you? [08:08] Buggaboo: kvm_intel not found [08:08] aha. [08:09] insmod /usr/src/...wherever it may be.../kvm-intel.ko [08:09] dive: yep, i read that, and it says that dump will overwrite these files ;-) [08:09] well the slackbuild looks normal to me.. dunno [08:10] ok, I'll check something else [08:10] oh, maybe tar got reinstalled [08:10] zoran119, find the kvm-intel.ko if it's not there, compile it. [08:10] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-194-167.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [08:10] make modules && make modules_install ... methinks. [08:11] oh, and turn it on of course :P [08:11] in the .config file in your kernel buildsite. [08:11] Buggaboo: ok... found it... why didn't that module get installed when i recompiled the kernel [08:11] just grep -n KVM .config [08:12] zoran119, because you have cooties. [08:12] Buggaboo, no need for "make modules" in 2.6.x ... make takes care of that, also [08:12] error inserting kvm-intel.ko: -1 unknown symbol in module [08:12] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) joined ##slackware. [08:14] zoran119, hm. I'm lost from this point on. modprobe gives this error? [08:15] modprobe says that it cannot find the module even though i have it the absolute path [08:15] erm why does he need kvm? [08:16] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [08:16] I know qemu can act as frontend for it, but it's not necesary to run qemu+kqemu [08:16] dive, it's faster. [08:17] s/to/if you are/ [08:17] kvm has nothing to do with qemu/kqemu [08:17] dive, and some people have better things to do than watch stuff load. [08:17] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [08:17] zoran119, insmod [08:17] zoran119, insmod [08:18] Buggaboo: unknown symbol in module [08:18] maybe you have to try to load 'kvm.ko' first? [08:18] I'm not sure tho if that might help. [08:19] but the other guys are right, you don't need kvm, but you will watch/suffer stuff loading. [08:19] How so Buggaboo? [08:19] unless they put qemu on steroids lately. [08:19] but i don't have kvm.... [08:19] kvm is the kernel module for Virtual Machine [08:19] so there is no kvm module [08:20] It has nothing to do with compile speed or qemu. [08:20] zoran119, you need to load both kvm.ko and kvm-intel to load kvm and run qemu at a "normal speed". [08:20] but this doesn't help his problem [08:20] sorry, qemu enhanced with kvm. [08:21] dive, o. Sorry then. [08:21] mingdao, how are things in china atm? [08:21] i don't have kvm installed... only qemu and kqemu... [08:21] Hey straterra! [08:21] zoran119, kvm can speed things up for kqemu. [08:21] Not bad straterra ... [08:22] We moved up the road in March. Now living "in the country" so to speak. [08:22] How are you straterra? [08:22] so..if I fly over..I'm not gonna be kidnapped or anything? [08:22] when the user starting the vm does not have permissions to /dev/kqemu the vm boots (but slowly)... if the user has the permissions to /dev/kqemu then the vm gets stuck while booting [08:22] I'm ok [08:23] zoran119, tried running it as root? [08:23] Is there anything i should avoid doing/saying to avoid trouble or anything? I know nothing of chinese customs [08:23] zoran119, ah forgot that bit, you have to set the /dev/kqemu or /dev/kvm to group read-write and set it to group 'kvm' and add your user to it. [08:23] straterra, nothing [08:23] zoran119, this is easily done with udev. [08:23] straterra, are you coming? [08:24] dive: I got it! the --mandir option in the configure-part was wrong [08:24] Yes, I am [08:24] mingdao, where are you based? [08:24] Dali, China [08:24] ah. [08:24] straterra, where ya coming to? [08:24] Didn't know they had a place there named after my fave artist. [08:24] one of my fave artists. [08:25] I'm not sure...some business district [08:25] Buggaboo, there are some famous artists from here. [08:25] its for my job [08:25] straterra, in Beijing? Do you know the city? [08:25] straterra, at least on the mainland? [08:25] I don't [08:25] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) joined ##slackware. [08:25] I can check when i get to work today [08:25] I'm so jelis, I want a travelling job too. [08:25] apoca, that's great. Can you email the maintainer to let him know? [08:25] i know its sometime in august [08:25] yep, I'll do this [08:25] straterra, I gotta go spend family time ... bbl ... I'd like to hear more. [08:26] k [08:26] gets stuck on 'enabling passive release' when the root runs the vm as well [08:26] good morning, people! [08:26] zoran119, troll the qemu boards? [08:27] zoran119, maybe a bad image? [08:29] init[1] (n=init[1]@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "Lost terminal" [08:30] Buggaboo: yeah... might have to do some research/reinstall attempts.... will try a diferent distro as well... [08:30] Buggaboo: thanks for your help [08:32] zoran119, has it ever booted at all? [08:34] dive: if the user running the vm does not have permissions to /dev/kqemu then yes [08:36] strange. I think I would be inclined to download the latest source for kqemu, adjust the slackbuild and see if that works. If it does, let me know the version of kqemu and I will update the slackbuild for it. [08:37] after testing of course. Oh and I can't submit any updates until 13 is out but I can host it myself. [08:37] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) joined ##slackware. [08:37] dive: I think I have a working handbrake build [08:38] dive: i will do some experiments and let you guys know what is happening [08:38] thrice`, alienBOB definitely does [08:38] thanks for your help... bye [08:38] zoran119, ok thanks. I'm the kqemu maintainer so if I'm not around here can you mail me? [08:39] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [08:39] dive: ok... if i do find anything out i will [08:39] thanks [08:40] zoran119 (n=zoran@154.169.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) left irc: "leaving" [08:41] I see alienBOB is also installing "slack-required" ? [08:41] yea [08:41] one lib iirc [08:41] libfrop.so ? [08:41] yr-wrong\ [08:41] I've used it ... really nice. [08:41] I don't think that's it tewmten [08:41] it should be [08:42] libnotify and webkitgk [08:43] it needs yasm to build, too [08:43] I don't think so, but I already had yasm installed. [08:44] How much are quadcore laptops nowadays? [08:44] alienBOB doesn't list yasm in his slack-required, either [08:44] you need it to build, but not run; x264 needs it [08:44] I saw one for €2500, but that's insane. [08:44] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: "Leaving" [08:45] I wonder if it's cheaper to buy a normal laptop and upgrade it all the way to a quad-core 8gbytes mem monster. [08:45] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) joined ##slackware. [08:45] thrice`, I stand corrected, thanks -- yasm (only during compilation) -- vlc or libdvdcss to read encrypted DVDs [08:46] http://slackadelic.com/~thrice/handbrake/ is what I came up with [08:46] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [08:48] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.86.233) joined ##slackware. [08:51] decke (n=decke@elton.itac.at) joined ##slackware. [08:51] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-79-47.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [08:52] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-79-47.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Ex-Chat"). [08:53] anyone tried building the sbo from Pat with mcrypt support? just tried it and seem to get stuck somewhere (http://pastebin.ca/1509942) [08:53] thrice`, you're not going to also install the commandline client? [08:53] http://osflash.org/red5 [08:53] sweet! [08:54] opensource flash server [08:54] mingdao: my main goal was the gtk client [08:54] since HandBrakeCLI has become incredibly complex to get a decent rip [08:54] works wonderfully here [08:54] sweet [08:55] someone has benchmarked qemu+kqemu vs qemu+kvm: http://www.linuxinsight.com/finally-user-friendly-virtualization-for-linux.html [08:57] dive: unfortunately it's old [08:57] yeah [08:57] (and doesn't use a logarithmic scale which makes qemu results annoying) [08:57] just noticed that [08:57] but it's pretty nice ;) [08:58] I didn't do any fancy benchmarks like that, but build kvm about a year ago and it was definitely faster than with kqemu [08:58] unfortunatly my main box doesn't support vmx so Im stuck with kqemu [08:59] same here [08:59] but boot time isn't that huge [08:59] except I want windows x64 guests and that doesn't work currently :) [09:01] Did you read this -> http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/20/167 [09:02] dakarn (n=skas@83.225.97.218) left irc: Connection timed out [09:02] The most interesting comment was made by jengelh -> http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/20/331 [09:02] dakarn (n=skas@83.225.97.218) joined ##slackware. [09:03] decke (n=decke@elton.itac.at) left irc: "Leaving." [09:04] mingdao: lol [09:04] I'm nobody, but it makes me want to vomit when I see @microsoft.com in LKML. :-( [09:04] Strykar (n=wakka@122.170.29.127) joined ##slackware. [09:04] yeah, what do you think Camarade_Tux? [09:04] bgeddy (n=bgeddy@82-42-231-37.cable.ubr19.live.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [09:05] everybody complains about the quality of MS code [09:05] I think the worse thing about their code is they don't clean up their messes until the bean counters say it'll cost them money. [09:06] hard to talk about m$ code cause it's secret [09:06] vs the Linux model [09:06] with the general attitude of most Linux folk, however, any code that gets accepted will probably be squeaky clean [09:06] Dominian, that looks nice [09:06] oh well, g'night [09:06] TwinReverb (n=robert@unaffiliated/twinreverb) left irc: "Leaving" [09:06] Dominian, but what does it do? [09:06] That would be a change. [09:07] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [09:07] slackytude: flash media server [09:08] live streaming.. you can hook a we bcam to it do live streaming or have it record to the server etc etc [09:09] but it's great: they submit code, it gets clean, they merge it back :) [09:10] Dominian: vlc with h264 encoding and sctp protocol :D [09:11] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [09:12] Dominian, nifty [09:12] Dominian: Red5 is not new. [09:12] I have used it in the past to stream video to my Wii [09:13] decke (n=decke@elton.itac.at) joined ##slackware. [09:14] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) left irc: "Leaving" [09:14] reminds me of openlaszlo for some reason [09:14] altho its a different beasr [09:14] alienBOB: Whether it be new or not isn't the point.. to me its new.. Never heard of it. [09:15] i've played a bit with initrd and UUID/LABEL support because i've needed an bootable usb stick with slackware and needed to patch the init script of initrd... [09:15] does anyone think that patch could have a chance to get integrated? http://pastebin.ca/1509948 [09:16] adupuis (n=adupuis@80.12.81.23) joined ##slackware. [09:17] Arno[Slack]`Work (n=adupuis@LPuteaux-156-16-101-23.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:17] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: Remote closed the connection [09:17] Nick change: adupuis -> Arno[Slack]`Work [09:18] decke: alienBOB would be the one to poke :) [09:18] pokes alienBOB [09:19] :D [09:21] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [09:21] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:22] adeodatus (n=adeodatu@92.82.86.233) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [09:22] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [09:22] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [09:24] budo (n=budo@75-93-145-99.rch.clearwire-dns.net) left irc: "Leaving" [09:25] any asus eee 1000 owner here by chance - matte or glossy ? :) [09:26] kpr (n=kpr@unaffiliated/kpr) joined ##slackware. [09:27] I think you can poke alienBOB on that one, too. [09:27] He has a 1000h iirc. [09:27] not sure whether 1000 or 1000h differ in that regard, though. i wouldn't expect them to... but who knows [09:28] nheco (n=nheco_nh@201-41-15-53.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) left irc: "Saindo" [09:28] I could be mistaken ... shouldn't put my nose in his business, but I think he's the one who mentioned it. [09:28] rob0, I think, might, also. [09:29] I think it was them talking about their screens in the sun. ;) [09:29] heh. well, most things i can found indicate it's not glossy, like "Sensibly, there's no glossy coating" [09:32] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-79-47.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. 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[10:14] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-79-47.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [10:18] okay that gives me nothing... findfs is a symlink to tune2fs which is about 100k bigger than blkid when build static [10:21] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [10:21] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [10:21] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [10:27] mingdao (i=nobody@unaffiliated/mingdao) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [10:28] decke: findfs in the _initrd_ is a symlink to busybox. It does not take up any additional space at all [10:30] decke (n=decke@elton.itac.at) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:30] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) joined ##slackware. [10:31] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.85.53) joined ##slackware. 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[11:02] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:03] avidemux has nice features but the code looks more and more annoying to me: indentation is messy and spaces are randoms [11:04] as long as it works :P [11:04] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:05] but I need to do some magic crop it doesn't do, so I'm modifying one of the already existing plugin [11:05] (or rather "filter") [11:05] and I feel like crying! ='( mummmy! ='( [11:06] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:06] vinegaroon (n=sam@202-180-115-72.callplus.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:07] Action: eviljames slaps Camarade_Tux [11:07] snap out of it man! [11:07] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:08] eviljames: it's a trick to make a cute breasty woman comfort me! :P [11:08] unfortunately this is probably the wrong channel for that =/ [11:08] ah, NEVERMIND [11:08] Buggaboo (n=Buggab00@a83-163-47-192.adsl.xs4all.nl) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:08] oh? Is it an itty bitty titty committee in here? [11:08] sausage fest [11:08] or just a room full of saggy man boob? [11:09] timahvo1_ (n=rogue@41.223.57.76) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [11:09] eviljames: speaking of boobs, have you looked at the link I sent yesterday? :D [11:09] plz send again [11:09] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:09] this is the wine rack? [11:09] yeah [11:09] send away [11:09] http://www.baronbob.com/winerack-winegaggift.htm [11:10] ugh, it's supposed to get to 35C today, but with the humidity feel like 42... WTF [11:10] don't complain, I can't walk to work, I have to make several pauses because it's too hot [11:10] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) left irc: "Leaving" [11:10] I'm 25k from work - walking is not an option + my car = dead. [11:10] So I get to take the smelly bus. [11:11] i'd rather quit work [11:11] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:11] hehe :D [11:11] http://www.physorg.com/news167925273.html/? <- transparent aluminum?! [11:11] hehe star trek 4 [11:11] Holy crap - Star Trek The Voyage Home was TRUE! [11:11] i saw ST 4 today [11:11] I gotta go to Oxford and meet Scotty [11:11] currently I walk/take bus, take subway, other subway, tram, walk >< [11:11] Camarade_Tux: balls. [11:12] stig: belive me I'm considering it. Tomorrow if it hits 40 I'm staying home :P [11:12] tomorrow morning, I stay home :) [11:12] slackytude (n=hotline@p4FD899F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:12] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:12] no matter the temperature ;) [11:13] eviljames: just read that too [11:13] steiger: must be on reddit :D [11:13] hi ho, hi ho, it's off to work I go... [11:13] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) joined ##slackware. [11:14] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [11:14] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:15] eviljames: i found that on hacker news [11:15] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:15] eviljames: unfortunatelly, the lifetime for the transparent alluminum is ridiculously low :( [11:15] it should improve :) [11:17] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:18] Action: Camarade_Tux staples Keiffer to the channel [11:19] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:19] crap, didn't work [11:20] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:22] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [11:22] paissad-hp (n=paissad@18.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [11:22] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:23] vdvluc (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [11:24] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:24] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [11:24] vdvluc (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left ##slackware. [11:25] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [11:26] is the reason r2-d2 beeps so much because someone fucked up the alsa drivers? [11:26] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:27] pri4pus (n=pri4pus@unaffiliated/pri4pus) joined ##slackware. [11:28] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:28] no, he's using a prerelease of pulseaudio [11:29] buffer (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [11:29] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [11:30] haha [11:31] this issue might be discussed before, i'm on 13rc1 ,i have a ps/2 mice ,seems like xserver doesn't seems to detect it, and hangs all the way [11:31] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) left irc: "Leaving." [11:31] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:32] buffer: heard of hal? =) [11:32] on -current, you should not have any input-related items in your xorg.conf [11:32] yea i know , we have discussed it here [11:32] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [11:32] Or do what I do and tell hal to piss off [11:32] :) [11:32] ok, that doesn't mean much to us [11:33] thrice`: sorry that reply was to Camarade_Tux :) [11:33] well, paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log + xorg.conf, perhaps, after a hang [11:33] ok, [11:33] etf (i=c881b043@gateway/web/freenode/x-08c7bce986fba9b6) joined ##slackware. [11:34] also, I would recommend you comment out the psmouse modprobe line in /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf [11:35] Dominian: yeah, but you're a n00b [11:35] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422737.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:35] thrice`: bah [11:35] I just hate hal [11:35] breaks my mouse [11:36] and screws up my buttons [11:36] OclkdMan (n=headbrak@78.134.14.94) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [11:36] it gives you acnea? :o [11:36] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422737.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [11:36] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.41) joined ##slackware. [11:36] hey should i comment out smthing in xorg.cong? [11:36] OclkdMan (n=headbrak@78.134.12.55) joined ##slackware. [11:37] there is a mice configrtion when was created by xorgsetup [11:37] which video card do you have? [11:38] nvida [11:38] are you using the nvidia drivers? [11:38] video is ok, thrice` :) [11:38] I know that :) [11:38] no i haven't [11:38] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:38] installed it [11:38] mingdao (i=nobody@unaffiliated/mingdao) left ##slackware ("zzzz"). [11:38] I would try starting without a xorg.conf all together [11:39] ok, now i should comment out the psmouse.conf and run a startx without xorg.conf file [11:40] perfect; when xorg-server runs, it'll ask hal for all of your input devices [11:40] Guest13908 (n=sol@12.53.192.186) left irc: "leaving" [11:41] NaCl (n=NaCl@unaffilated/nacl/x-827312) joined ##slackware. [11:41] o/ HOLA BICHES [11:42] Action: buffer if i don't respond that means system is hang and im shutting it down :( [11:43] phillipsm (n=matt@173-20-30-158.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [11:44] buffer (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "Lost terminal" [11:44] am i the only one who wants to STAB yahoo for changing their authentication system; ergo screwing over linux users? [11:46] wasn't that fixed awhile ago? [11:46] hitest (n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [11:47] lordsimian (n=lordsimi@144.38.70.31) left irc: "leaving" [11:47] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [11:48] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) joined ##slackware. [11:49] Chakravanti (n=dkwhit@in-67-236-111-170.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [11:51] etf (i=c881b043@gateway/web/freenode/x-08c7bce986fba9b6) left irc: "Page closed" [11:52] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [11:54] buffer (i=1000@116.68.99.162) joined ##slackware. [11:55] aaha.... finally figured out , [11:55] Nick change: buffer -> Guest21914 [11:55] Guest21914 (i=1000@116.68.99.162) left ##slackware. [11:56] snearch (n=olaf@82.113.106.22) joined ##slackware. [11:56] buffer (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [11:58] i missed to install a xf86- package called evdev thrice` [11:58] haa, complaining about yahoo.. Here in sweden I have to go to the library to do my taxes 'cause the "tax" site doesn't work with nothing but internet explorer. [11:59] buffer: oh, heh [11:59] Well, the firewall box is now running -current one reboot later. :-) [12:01] reboot?? newb [12:01] Nick change: pri4pus -> m4lik [12:01] ;) [12:01] :) [12:02] and proper video? [12:02] I just don't understand how/why so many people have so much trouble updating to -current and/or between releases. That box went from 11.0 to 12.2 a few months ago, and now to -current. Two reboots total. [12:02] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:02] thrice`: me ? [12:02] All on a live (and critical) system. [12:02] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [12:02] booh! :-) [12:03] lyminsk (n=lyminsk@unaffiliated/lyminsk) joined ##slackware. [12:03] thrice`: I've not hooked a monitor to it yet; that's for later today or tonight. [12:03] ooh nvm :) [12:03] Linux alamo 2.6.29.6-smp #2 SMP Sun Jul 12 22:46:36 CDT 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux [12:03] Nick change: m4lik -> shik4nt4z4 [12:03] macavity: ^^ that's the firewall box :) [12:04] buffer (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "mouting previous home partiti.. :)" [12:06] madnex_ (n=Nestor@189-015-212-078.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) joined ##slackware. [12:07] bah, the Canadian slack mirrors are all dead. [12:08] use those evil from usa [12:08] rworkman: and it works? [12:08] rworkman: oh, i see [12:09] rworkman: i am almost done setting up the laptop, so i can get to hack on the two Radeon cards [12:09] winterx: yeah, I have to. [12:09] rworkman: on one hand i hope that it works on your 865, as i do like the new-shiny-mese approach much better ;-) [12:09] thumbs: from Canada ftp.slackware.no is *plenty* fast [12:10] macavity: ah. [12:11] I wonder where it is [12:11] well, norway? [12:11] thumbs: they have a 10GBit uplink and some seriously hefty raids [12:11] oh. But I still have to go across the atlantic ocean [12:12] kiwidude (n=email@ip-118-90-9-194.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [12:12] alienBOB: i've added UUID support to initrd for current :o) http://pastebin.ca/1510092 [12:12] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422737.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:13] works fine here for luks too [12:13] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422737.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:14] _marc` (n=marc@2001:6f8:103c:0:216:6fff:feb7:24e5) joined ##slackware. [12:14] osuosl is extremely fast in Canada I find. [12:14] btw [12:14] (hi all!) [12:14] eviljames: fair enough [12:14] Hi Gay eviljames [12:15] How was the neighbor? [12:15] superGear: how did you know my first name was actually Gay? It's spelled "Ghey" tho [12:15] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p3EE3BDAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined ##slackware. [12:16] buffer (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [12:16] now another problem , i would never need the samba package , well mplayer would never work with out that :( [12:17] any way out of this ? [12:18] you've have to recompile mplayer without samba support [12:18] aa.. [12:19] Psychobilly (n=moi@adsl117-205.kln.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [12:19] Layzee (n=a@g229051156.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:19] or just install samba [12:20] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) joined ##slackware. [12:21] considering my 10KB/s connection i will better install samba [12:21] tkhat's fast [12:21] yea i know :P [12:22] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [12:22] slackmagic (n=magician@unaffiliated/slackmagic) joined ##slackware. [12:22] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [12:22] it took 2 days to dwload 475 MB custom slackware [12:22] Greetings everyone. :) [12:22] lucky that im xfce fan .... [12:22] yo fire|bird :) [12:23] hi buffer, how are you? [12:23] I feel sorry for you buffer ... 10kb/s is sloooow.. = / [12:23] hi fire|bird:-) [12:23] hi fire|bird , how's things? [12:23] Hi hitest [12:23] fine , now on 13rc1 with issues [12:23] dive: great, thanks. you? [12:23] :-) [12:23] not so bad thanks [12:24] How are you hitest? [12:24] LinuxEA: yea, well it is unlimited though [12:24] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:24] I am well, fire|bird! ty, you/ [12:24] ? [12:24] doing great, thanks. :) [12:24] :-) [12:25] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [12:25] woha! Vista BSODed :P [12:25] lol [12:25] close your eyes [12:25] macavity: sh pls [12:25] less than an hour of uptime on the kids neww laptop [12:26] macavity: ss pls :) [12:26] what? [12:26] macavity: tested per your req on laptop, new post to lq.net thread [12:26] eviljames++ [12:27] Skaperen (n=phil@c-76-125-202-149.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [12:27] macavity: i mean screen shot , sorry i was having food so i couldn't complete ss [12:27] slackmag1c (n=magician@pool-173-57-58-121.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:28] buffer: the thing just went BSOD for 10 secs, then rebooted [12:28] ooh nv :) i assumed you were on a VM [12:29] s/nv/nvm/ [12:29] hiptobecubic (n=john@adsl-074-237-090-156.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Hewlett Packard makes terrible consumer laptops." [12:29] btw, why does HALF the posters on LQ.net not realize that they should test with default kernel and intel-2.7.1 against rworkman's packages [12:29] dumbasses [12:29] heh [12:30] :( me included. [12:30] yet another one wastes half a page on his 1337 glxinfo output, yet completely manages to miss the target [12:30] eviljames: oops.. dont take it personally :P [12:30] omg even pidgin needs samba [12:30] macavity: OH I'm pissed at you now! NO MORE TESTS FROM EVILJAMES [12:30] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [12:31] err, that's not true. I want slack13 to go off like a bomb [12:33] rworkman, macavity: Is there a good, objective, benchmark we can use to track how well things perform? [12:33] quake3? [12:34] hmmz? [12:34] buffer (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "leaving" [12:34] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [12:34] don't use glxinfo, it'll just bind onto the sync rate of your monitor, and people will cry that it's broken [12:34] er, glxgears* [12:34] Right [12:34] snearch (n=olaf@82.113.106.22) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [12:35] My last attempt at glxgears showed 666 fps. I considered that a good sign. [12:35] Basically, if the system isn't sluggish when switching to/from Firefox, not sluggish when doing things using DRI, then I'd say it's fine. [12:35] Any of you worked with Linux and the Intel GMA950 before? [12:36] OclkdMan (n=headbrak@78.134.12.55) left irc: "Leaving" [12:36] straterra: yes [12:36] rrh (n=foo@217.75.82.130) joined ##slackware. [12:36] thrice`: Good/bad/easy/hard? :P [12:36] "good/bad" is debatable, but really easy [12:36] eviljames: 8915 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1782.882 FPS [12:36] thrice`: Need any binary drivers or anything? [12:37] dtanner: NV? [12:37] I assume this is a pretty good fps? I used ot get much better with an my older machine with an older card. but this is a onboard card. [12:37] yes [12:37] nope; x.org covers everything. the later the xorg/kernel, the bettre [12:38] straterra: I find that all the intel stuff work great [in bed] [12:38] eviljames: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (rev a2) [12:38] thrice`: So like..Slack 13? [12:38] 42561 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8512.144 FPS [12:38] i said in pppoe-setup i want nameserver 127.0.0.1. now that pppoe is up, can i review the nameservers suggested by the provider, or are they forgotten? [12:39] straterra: if rworkman gets solves it all, yes, slack 13 ;) [12:39] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl9-164-34.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [12:39] 4484 frames in 5.0 seconds = 896.702 FPS [12:39] rworkman: fix it..or I'm showing up at your place nude [12:39] mines a lie [12:39] fgl_glxgears 1046 frames in 5.0 seconds = 209.200 FPS [12:39] i made it the smallest it can go [12:40] I miss fighting with Slackware to get all of my hardware to work [12:40] 6596 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1319.129 FPS [12:41] Nvidia 8400 GS POS [12:41] 77994 frames in 5.0 seconds = 15598.740 FPS [12:41] <- x1200 [12:41] InspectorCluseau ne on SLI 295 GTS or smthin [12:41] catalyst 9.3 [12:42] be* [12:42] no ... minimized lol [12:42] Psychobilly (n=moi@adsl117-205.kln.forthnet.gr) left ##slackware (".)(."). [12:42] fau_ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) joined ##slackware. [12:42] fau_, [12:42] Action: pprkut bought new external harddisk today. Preformatted with hfs+ :o [12:42] morning folks [12:43] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [12:43] fau__ (n=fAu@78-134-6-96.static.ngi.it) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:43] hey nix_chix0r, how are you? [12:43] 59159 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11831.707 FPS withiut touching anything [12:43] what's your vid card? [12:43] had a follow up appointment today on my meds and i didnt know the appt was cancelled till i got there. that was a nice waste of 30min drive one way [12:44] Emeau-cat (n=Emeau-ca@cho94-3-82-225-203-40.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: "Quitte" [12:44] fire|bird, other than that i'm alright, you [12:44] nix_chix0r, aslong as you had fun [12:44] nix_chix0r: heh, sort of like the appointment you had for the baby's shots, gets cancelled and they don't let you know. [12:44] nix_chix0r: doing great, thank you. [12:44] nix_chix0r has great doctors [12:45] i should have told them the meds were starting to make me hear voices more and it's not ok to cancel with out telling me:P [12:45] ok, opinions: external harddisk 2TB, only used for big multimedia files. XFS or Ext4? [12:45] and that i'm going home to talk to my pals [12:45] NTFS [12:45] ext4 has been pretty good for me so far [12:46] ext4 i guess [12:46] I still use reiserfs [12:46] I made good experiences with both, that's why I can't decide :S [12:46] murdererfs [12:46] i've always used reiserfs and i really have no reasoning behind it just what i always used [12:47] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:47] You like the name [12:47] dartmouth (n=dartmout@cpe-24-25-172-165.maine.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [12:47] that must be it [12:48] because i remember back in the day you could select what you wanted and that's what i always chose [12:49] madnex_ (n=Nestor@189-015-212-078.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) left irc: Client Quit [12:49] you still can choose what you want [12:49] pprkut: XFS [12:49] fat32 [12:49] so it's EXT4 [12:50] cause eviljames recommends XFS [12:50] i have ext4 on my new hd [12:51] i have no reason to switch to any other file system [12:51] i use reiserfs and NTFS [12:51] there is no doze ext4 driver [12:51] correct [12:52] there is a app to read reiserfs tho [12:52] eviljames: yep, probably go with the safe bet. [12:52] thanks all, xfs it will be [12:52] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:52] straterra (n=straterr@fuhell.com) joined ##slackware. [12:52] ext2fsd supports ext2/3 [12:53] Action: nix_chix0r throws a random doobie out to ##slackware just throwin it out there [12:53] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-245-24.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) joined ##slackware. [12:54] does the first cd come with slackpkg? [12:54] allend (n=allend@CPE-121-219-47-163.vic.bigpond.net.au) left irc: "Leaving" [12:55] pprkut: why not make a list of file systems mountable on all systems you care about (minus those crippled by a 32-bit filesize limit), and measure the available payload (df) after newfs. take the one with least overhead. [12:56] decke, yes [12:56] tooly (n=theo@e178170216.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [12:56] Action: nix_chix0r takes it back ... [12:56] Layzee: I care about Linux, only :) [12:56] superGear: yes what? [12:56] pprkut: split it in half and test both :) [12:56] deco> does the first cd come with slackpkg? [12:56] superGear: deco != decke [12:56] err [12:57] my bad [12:57] deco, yes [12:57] yall need to change your nick :P [12:57] thrice`: I have xfs already on a 1TB external disk, and it works good. My trust in ext4 is not that high yet. ;) [12:57] superGear: i will... in 50 to 70 years ;o) [12:58] you'll be dead [12:58] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [12:58] i should change my nick to bob geldof [12:58] hi [12:58] ohhh noo [12:58] yes nix_chix0r as you arent female [12:58] Hi missyjane [12:58] you tranny you [12:58] nix_chix0r, you can, but only on Mondays [12:58] hi superGear [12:58] shoot [12:58] superGear: everyone will [12:58] missyjane is a male [12:59] i'm only a tranny for rocky horror week [12:59] and that's not till november:| [12:59] those grow a penis foam things get expensive. and only get as big as the small cup you put em in kinda worthless really [12:59] nick change on monday, tranny in November... i see a life change moment coming [12:59] thats ok, im only tranny when people here say im a male [12:59] nix_chix0r is a female with child [13:00] with child? no i passed that kidney stone almost 5months ago:P [13:00] there are no girls in the internetz [13:00] true [13:00] nix_chix0r is a FBI Agent [13:00] except those in porn! [13:01] missyjane is a 50 year olf male pervert [13:01] ah yes, "can i send you my pic"... [13:01] had the wrong person hear me say that about my kid they'd probally take him a way lmao [13:01] because he really isn't a burden [13:01] old* [13:01] pprkut: i think mke2fs -T largefile4 has a higher yield than plain mke2fs. don't know about the others. [13:01] Action: superGear calls child services [13:01] just kinda looking forward to when he can talk and i will tell him go hack or something [13:01] lol [13:01] :o [13:01] bugger off boy [13:01] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Client Quit [13:02] Hi guys, last week I installed Armedslack on mu Palm Centro [13:02] wtg [13:02] I wrote a small hot to, well, not so well written... [13:03] anyway, here is the link: [13:03] http://stoa.usp.br/oda/weblog/55152.html [13:04] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) joined ##slackware. [13:05] superGear: thanks! :-D [13:05] vdvluc (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. 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[13:08] hello spectre- :) Slack fan from seden here [13:08] *sweden [13:09] ubuntu from italy here [13:09] i'm lazzy [13:10] hey [13:10] technical question [13:10] Action: eviljames <- Canadian slacker of ~ 10 years :P [13:10] i've been trying to create a bridge [13:10] but [13:10] the problem i'm having is this [13:10] i am AMERICAN [13:10] :D [13:11] missyjane: That's unfortunate.. are you able to see a doctor? :P [13:11] i want a squid cache on there, which i managed transparently [13:11] spectre- you want to make a bridge but you have nothing to cross? [13:11] nah well [13:11] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [13:11] so transparent squid proxy [13:11] dedicated box [13:11] i've got that [13:11] eviljames, yes :) and no wait line either [13:11] client behind the bridge gets dhcp etc [13:11] missyjane: rich or well insured? That sounds too much like Canada to be believed :D [13:12] but i can't seem to get squid to then point back out without manually specifying the gw [13:12] paissad-hp (n=paissad@18.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:12] trying to get fw/dhcp<>squid bridge transparent<>client [13:12] kleanchap (n=chatzill@p3EE3BDAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: "bbl. Have a good one. Peace!" [13:12] WITHOUT manually configuring the bridge box [13:12] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) joined ##slackware. [13:12] so plug and play into any network [13:13] and it works [13:13] eviljames, neither, in america, its privatized [13:13] i can get the whole thing up fine but i find i can't route the packets back to the bridged firewall/dhcp bound interface without specifying the network gateway manually [13:14] missyjane: I know, and I think it's abhorrent. [13:14] paissad-hp (n=paissad@18.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [13:14] more a squid issue i guess, but any ideas on how to pass packets through squid then route back to the bridge without losing the gateway info? [13:14] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:14] eviljames, i love it [13:14] at least no wait time ;) [13:14] and no tax to worry about to pay for that [13:14] paissad-hp (n=paissad@18.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:15] paissad-hp (n=paissad@18.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [13:15] missyjane: hahah, I think you have it somewhat backwards. I've never in my life waited more than 20 minutes (even in the emergency room) and our taxes are right on par with yours (~35% top marignal tax rate, if you make less than about 50k/yr it's closer to 10%) [13:16] So, zero out of pocket expense, the same level of taxation as USA, and top notch medical care. [13:16] eviljames, http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/canada.asp [13:17] i believe scopes [13:17] lol [13:17] decke (n=decke@elton.itac.at) left irc: "Leaving." [13:17] mirash (n=mirash@117.196.137.4) joined ##slackware. [13:17] paissad-hp (n=paissad@18.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:18] missyjane: There's a number of things that are relatively wrong in that. [13:18] whats that kernel that suppports speach synthesizing? [13:18] mirash: I think you're looking for speakup, but I have no clue otherwise. [13:18] eviljames, like what? you might get good service in health care with your canadian system but i dont like it and dont want to risk it tyvm :) [13:19] missyjane: 1) for long wait times the government pays for the patient to go to a clinic in the states - entirely on the taxpayer dime. [13:19] myspl (n=stephen@150.182.230.248) joined ##slackware. [13:19] missyjane: The idea that people die waiting in line is ridiculous. [13:20] when i boot up using disk, the options for kernels it shows [13:20] ther is one that supports speach synthesizing [13:20] whats that? [13:20] eviljames, ive read of ppl on forum that stated their family member died, im not risking it, this has never happened in usa due to wait time or something similar [13:21] anyone there? [13:22] missyjane: The people who are saying that are either outright lying or confused. Your anecdotal evidence is simply false. [13:22] Layzee (n=a@g225020049.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined ##slackware. [13:23] what all things can i do using such a kernel? [13:24] without ending up on noobfarm: is slack compatible with usb drive installs? [13:24] missyjane: I have a number of family members and close friends who are in relatively high positions in the varying health authorities (BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Ontario) - I've spoken with health ministers from 3 of these 4 provinces personally... [13:25] is someone trying to say america has a good health care system? [13:25] mirash (n=mirash@117.196.137.4) left irc: "Leaving" [13:25] paissad-hp (n=paissad@18.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [13:25] dakarn: yes, there are usb installers available [13:26] bayrouni (n=bayrouni@57.236-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:26] or, do you mean installing to a usb harddrive? [13:26] paissad-hp (n=paissad@18.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:26] missyjane: It's fine to want to pay for your own medicine and all, I can understand that... but I wouldn't go around touting your system, it's horrifically inefficient AND allows a sizeable portion of the populace to risk death over financial constraints. Disgusting. [13:26] thrice`: no no, install from usb [13:26] dakarn: in -current/usb-and-pxe-installers [13:27] dakarn: sure :) http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-12.2/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [13:27] dakarn: There's a bootable usb image there, and a readme to get you started. [13:27] i was going to use unetbootin [13:27] :( [13:29] [12:31] < missyjane> eviljames, ive read of ppl on forum that stated their family member died, im not risking it, this has never happened in usa due to wait time or something similar [13:29] wrong ^^^ [13:29] it has happened MANY times in the US [13:29] Worse, care being declined over financial constraints? [13:29] paissad-hp (n=paissad@18.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [13:30] the last time it happened the had it recorded on the security cams. it was aweful to watch the woman die right in the ER waiting room. [13:30] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) joined ##slackware. [13:30] i honestly haven't used slack since 3.0 -- i've been using a source + upkg distro on my netbook and #! on my laptop. i just wanted to install slack on the netbook to revive my education [13:31] dtanner: that was malpractice.. we dont know if she was covered or not (at least, when I read that story they made no mention of her coverage) [13:31] dtanner: In Canada (statistically) 86% of people in the emergency room were sitting with a doctor within 30 minutes. Of course, no charge. [13:31] That's from the snopes article that missyjane posted, and is old data. [13:31] gynterk (n=gynterk@unaffiliated/gynterk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:31] quasar: coverage or not a human should not be allowed to die like that. [13:32] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:32] gbowden (n=gbowden@247.Red-83-38-53.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) joined ##slackware. [13:32] Layzee (n=a@g225020049.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving" [13:32] dtanner: same article says that fully half were sitting with a doc in 6 minutes or less - Sounds like we're rationing care up here... [13:33] THIS seems like a good discussion for ##slackofftopic [13:33] yup [13:33] pprkut: \o/ [13:33] touchpad borked :) [13:34] paissad-hp (n=paissad@18.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [13:34] paissad-hp (n=paissad@18.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [13:34] Camarade_Tux: hey, look for an invite. [13:35] eviljames: what? [13:35] Action: macavity hugs his state issued health insurance card [13:35] Camarade_Tux: There's some off-topic questions I'd like to ask :D [13:35] eviljames: you mean to ##slackofftopic? [13:35] oui [13:35] macavity: which state? [13:36] deco (n=deco@ppp-69-233-245-24.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:36] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) joined ##slackware. [13:36] eviljames: Denmark :-) [13:36] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A774F6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [13:37] eviljames: it covers any kind of surgery, upwards 50-95% of all proscribed meds (depending on type) and works outside of Denmark too :-) [13:37] darchstar (n=ameer@cpe-65-25-12-68.neo.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:37] eviljames: and yes, every citizen has one [13:37] hey all [13:38] ckt1g3r (n=ckt1g3r@bl9-164-34.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: "Leaving" [13:39] macavity: Yeah, it's very similar here.. we can acquire private insurance seperately to cover the other 5-50% of prescription coverage, and glasses/dental. [13:39] macavity: Is your dental work covered? [13:39] darchstar (n=ameer@cpe-65-25-12-68.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: Client Quit [13:40] nope :-/ [13:40] walmartshopper (n=walmarts@cpe-67-49-213-45.bak.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [13:40] due to some bonehead rigth wing govt [13:41] that's the thing I fear most about losing my job, is having my insurance killed [13:41] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) joined ##slackware. [13:41] at least it could cover "non cosmetic procedures that would cause pain and/or dental deteriation if not treated in a timely fashion" [13:41] thrice`: yes.. that will make people keep a job that is killing them, wont it? [13:41] spectre1 (n=kyle@41.210.144.95) joined ##slackware. [13:42] no, I love my job, but who knows with the economy [13:44] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.26.230) joined ##slackware. [13:44] how do i take poeple off ignore in irc? [13:45] Chakravanti: /unig [13:46] lordsimian (n=lordsimi@144.38.70.31) joined ##slackware. [13:46] macavity: I agree that dental should be covered, but the right wing basis (even in evil commie socialist countries like ours) is that dental work is not 'medically necessary' [13:46] or /unignore depending on client [13:47] eviljames: a lot of other things covered isnt medically nesessary [13:47] *aren't [13:48] doesn't seem to work [13:48] cuz that's what i thought it was [13:48] macavity: who determins what is and is not medically necessary? [13:48] Chakravanti: which client? [13:49] dingleberry (n=dinglebe@col-dsl-dynamic-254-105-124-65.tls.net) joined ##slackware. [13:49] xchat [13:49] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [13:49] eviljames: apparently not the doctors ;-) [13:49] gbowden (n=gbowden@247.Red-83-38-53.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:49] eviljames: lawyers [13:49] eviljames: as pardentose MUST be treated asap, or it will progress fast [13:49] quasar: we dont live in the US ;-) [13:49] ah [13:50] dingleberry (n=dinglebe@col-dsl-dynamic-254-105-124-65.tls.net) left ##slackware. [13:50] anyhow.. time to get som dinner [13:50] Chakravanti: looking in xchat, /unignore works here. [13:50] brb for more xorg testing :P [13:50] macavity: oh, that's different.. Here if a doc says "You need treatment/test xyz" you get it. [13:51] I had plastic surgery when I had my nose broken, I could have lived without surgery but my nose was bent and had something behind broken too, it wasn't necessary but I had it and it's better that way because I had troubles breathing and didn't really notice it [13:52] y0 Camarade_Tux [13:52] mew mew [13:52] when i /ignore it shows a list of who i've ignored and it says 'unig' NO on the last column [13:52] might that have something to do with it? [13:53] brb [13:53] yoyo fire|bird [13:53] Chakravanti: so probably /unignore [13:53] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "I'm Leaving" [13:53] i do that, that list stays the same [13:53] hows things fellas? [13:53] fire|bird (n=silvergo@173-18-58-139.client.mchsi.com) joined ##slackware. [13:53] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [13:54] Nick change: fire|bird -> Guest60575 [13:54] whoops. :/ [13:54] spook: working and it's hot as all hell outside. [13:54] Nick change: Guest60575 -> fire|bird [13:54] eviljames: nice and freezing here [13:55] define 'freezing' [13:55] about... [13:55] 276 [13:56] Chakravanti: you using GUI or text mode? [13:56] text/console* [13:57] gui [13:57] Chakravanti, ok, I'm in xchat, you need to use just /ignore to get the list, then use the entire hostmask it shows there, so use /unignore hostmask_herre [13:57] what does it show when you go to Window -> Ignore ? [13:57] s/herre/here/ [13:57] spook: 276... what kind of units is that in? Kelvin? [13:57] I tested it by ignoring Camarade_Tux :D [13:57] eviljames: duh. of course. [13:58] i don't have a window->ignore [13:58] eviljames: thats 3C [13:58] and i've trie unignoring the whole hostmask... [13:58] spook: yeah, that's not freezing, though. [13:58] Chakravanti, at the top of the window, you don't have a Window menu? [13:58] spook: Talk to me when it's -35 :P [13:58] C, of course. [13:58] oh no wait [13:58] there it goes [13:58] i did the hostmask with unig [13:58] shit :( [13:58] tried with unignore and it worked [13:58] thanks guys [13:58] installing from usb drive [13:59] that was bugging the shit out of me [13:59] eviljames: its never been that cold here, ever. [13:59] i select hd > /dev/sdb1 > but what is the directory? [13:59] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422737.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:01] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [14:01] spook: ahh, nice. [14:01] /dir/to/slackware in slackware/ should be the series folders, like a ap etc [14:01] eviljames: its australia, and i'm at most 300m above sea level. [14:01] spook: idk i used netbootin i don't know where it's located [14:01] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:01] hey, how can i generate a installation cd with my own series? like, now installing ap, now installing guax =D [14:01] xMDKx (n=mdkcore@nat/mandriva/x-574100269b314354) left irc: [14:02] guax: I *think* the installer still looks for gnome/ [14:02] spook: sounds like it is close in terms of climate to where I am. I used to live in a city that ranged from +35C (summer) to -45C (winter). [14:02] Action: guax is 5m above sea level [14:02] guax: its all open source. [14:02] Action: eviljames is 1-2m above sea level now [14:02] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [14:03] eviljames, dont make me get down the stairs and send a message 1 under sea level [14:03] actually thats a good point. i'm only about 20m. [14:03] guax: hahah oh noes! [14:03] spook, i know, but need the tricks on generating the packages.gz and things like that [14:03] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:cf) left irc: Client Quit [14:03] guax: 'tricks' ? [14:03] i don't have libusb loaded so i can't lsusb and mount the usb volume =( [14:03] have you looked at packages.gz? i know i havent [14:04] i looked the md5sums and is easely generated [14:04] SQlvpapir (n=teis@0x50c60c4b.virnxx10.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) joined ##slackware. [14:05] Nick change: dive -> dive^ [14:05] Nick change: dive^ -> dive [14:06] back in the day we had to do our md5sums by hand [14:06] in the snow :O [14:06] why it would take us a whole 27 hours in a day to do it [14:06] Back in my day I did them on an abacus, bitch. [14:06] none of your new fangled 24 hour days to help us [14:06] eviljames, euauheauheah [14:07] and we had to slog uphill, barefoot, in snow, BOTH WAYS to do it [14:07] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-79-47.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:08] pprkut: I've made psmouse and i8042 as modules and and ... they don't show up in lsmod and when try to modprobe -r them, they won't be removed [14:08] back in my old days md5 hadnt been invented [14:08] (which means I have to make something else a module I think) [14:08] now i need to sleep negative 3 hours before i get up, clean the lake and go off to the salt mines for 29 hours a day, before i come home, and have my parents murder me and dance on my grave [14:09] for tupence a week [14:09] then sleep and take another acid? [14:10] guax: l2 monty python. good night. [14:10] AH i got it. my hd was mounted as hda instead of sda, so my usb drive was sda instead of sdb [14:10] touche [14:10] guess who has a 1.7 liter bottle of Jägermeister! [14:10] :D:D [14:11] i dont even know what that is =~ [14:11] hey tewmten, how's it going? [14:11] hi fire|bird [14:11] pfff, I still have 100ml left of Ice Tea -_- [14:11] im working a bit from home [14:11] tewmten: guess who has alcohols that arent shit. [14:11] Camarade_Tux: ?? very strange [14:11] spook: what? Jägermeister is delicious! [14:11] or as we say around here [14:11] lekker lekker lekker !! [14:11] hahaha [14:11] pprkut: "{M} i8042 PC Keyboard controller " [14:11] not the usual "" [14:12] Jägermeister is evil stuff [14:12] tasty but evil [14:12] nasty and evil [14:12] y0 slackytude, how's it going? [14:12] i loves it [14:12] i'll stick to my midori, rum, sake, whiskey, scotch, vodka [14:12] y0 fire|bird, all fine here. how are you and your laptop? [14:12] vodka is tasteless [14:12] Camarade_Tux: probably because psmouse depends on it? [14:12] jägermeister -> headache [14:13] Camarade_Tux: vodka + hipflask + punch bowl = :D:D:D:D [14:13] slackytude, I'm doing great, laptop, eh, no video now, I think I have bad issues with it, but it will get fixed soon enough. [14:13] only thing that gives me a headache is port. [14:13] if vodka is tasteless why do people buy the expensive shit [14:13] one day I'll go the physicist, get 60° alcoho, add water (one third) and mint and tell everybody it's mint-vodka [14:13] spiki (n=spiki@95.180.52.119) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [14:13] haldir: less anti-freeze [14:13] Camarade_Tux, trying to kill someone? ^-^ [14:14] Camarade_Tux: not vodka unless you make it with potatoes [14:14] so for disk2, i just run setup and keep my old /etc/fstab? :p [14:14] pprkut: not sure yet [14:14] slackytude: it wouldn't kill anyone ;) [14:14] i will stick with scotch whisky [14:14] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:14] spook: bleh, it's tastless anyway [14:14] haldir: Switch to Rye. [14:14] haldir: Actually, don't, you'll hate yourself and me. [14:14] Camarade_Tux: but classisification wise. [14:15] pprkut: I should be able to remove psmouse though [14:15] haldir: switch to jum. its a breakfast liqeuor [14:15] spook: sure, but it's tasteless :D [14:15] Camarade_Tux, they just wish they are dead [14:15] Camarade_Tux: not arguement from me [14:15] Everybody drink Soju. [14:15] mohaa (i=1000@92.49.83.62) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [14:15] buffer (i=buffer@77.246.19.109) joined ##slackware. [14:15] <3 scrubs janitor and his jum [14:16] pprkut: made evdev and mousedev modules [14:16] Nick change: buffer -> Guest37053 [14:16] slackytude: so, when are you coming to France? you should definitely taste my mint-vodka ;) [14:16] init[1] (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) joined ##slackware. [14:16] O_o [14:16] y0 init[1] [14:16] hi slackytude :) [14:17] whats new ! [14:17] Camarade_Tux, Im a polite guy, I let you drink first [14:17] what's old ? [14:17] well i just finished final touch up with 13 rc1 [14:17] :) [14:17] errr, why does CONFIG_DRM_I915 selects the input options in the kernel? why *DRM*? [14:18] slackytude: nah, it's vodka, we swallow both at once ;) [14:18] Camarade_Tux, sounds fair [14:18] Action: quasar takes a sip of Absinthe [14:18] absinth is nice as well [14:18] but also evil [14:20] reddit : "I have to work on a Rails project for my job, and it makes me want to kill myself. (self.programming)" ^^ [14:20] heh [14:21] first bad thing I head about rails [14:21] nice, I took the one stick of ram out, laptop starts right up. :P [14:21] slackytude: That's the first bad thing you've heard about rails? [14:21] Hello Camarade_Tux slackytude fire|bird :) [14:21] Hello eviljames :) [14:21] hehe [14:21] fredoslack: salut. [14:21] this is one helluva bottle, http://gaskammare.se/~tew/jaegermeister.jpg [14:21] slackytude: *first*? :D [14:21] eviljames, Im well isolated in my pythonic tower [14:21] yo fredoslack :) [14:21] I've installed Fedora 11 lool [14:21] greetings fredoslack, how are you? [14:21] fredoslack, greetings [14:21] Nice fire|bird thanks :) [14:22] fredoslack, you WHAT?!?!? [14:22] Very good weather in France :} [14:22] fire|bird, yes lool [14:22] fredoslack, gosh, rip your pc's hdd out why don't ya, it'd hurt less. :P [14:22] slackytude: Ever heard of Zed Shaw? [14:22] fredoslack: no, not good weather, god forgot the clouds! [14:22] eviljames, cant say so [14:22] lol [14:23] ok, reboot time, I'm not sure I'll reboot a thousand time to see if input is still borked [14:23] afaik 11 is a bad release of it. many complains [14:24] eviljames: oh, Zed Shaw sucks btw :) [14:24] slackytude: release 11 of what? [14:24] fedora [14:24] oh, fedora [14:24] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:24] Action: Camarade_Tux ties Keiffer [14:24] slackytude: google "Rails is a ghetto" - he goes crazy there. [14:25] don't move! [14:25] Camarade_Tux: and what's wrong with Zed? His insane rants make my days better. [14:25] It's almost as good as the Linux hater's blog. [14:25] oi! [14:25] linux haters blog is kinda depressing [14:25] eviljames: I think he's a sucker, he has some points, but I hate him [14:25] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [14:26] crap, he managed to leave again >< [14:26] Camarade_Tux, didn't get the rope tight enough. :P [14:27] fire|bird: yeah, I had to use a bad one since I'm already using my good one for my slave =/ [14:28] Who's the slave? [14:28] hey fire|bird , caio [14:28] hey, Camarade_Tux [14:28] Camarade_Tux: arn't you using a nvdia driver? [14:28] fire|bird: errrm I can't tell *you*... [14:28] init[1]: I am ='( [14:28] yo gtl [14:28] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:cf) joined ##slackware. [14:29] y0 gtl [14:29] Camarade_Tux: you were out of X while trying to remove psmouse, right? [14:29] Camarade_Tux: ok.im now on 13rc1,and installed the binary driver , would it create any problem with hibernation ? [14:30] pprkut: errr.... no :D [14:30] XD [14:30] init[1]: sleep works here [14:30] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:31] Camarade_Tux:so never tried hibernation? [14:31] init[1]: hibernation == meh for me [14:31] plus it takes an additional partition which I don't have [14:32] rworkman: ping [14:32] Camarade_Tux: so you are running out of swap? [14:32] Camarade_Tux: haha, well that would explain it :P [14:32] pprkut: don't tell anyone, they haven't noticed yet ;) [14:33] lol [14:33] init[1]: I have a swap partition for windows and when I need it, I make it available to linux [14:34] Action: Camarade_Tux should make it a fat (it's 4GB) and use files there, and always share with windows [14:34] omg ! Camarade_Tux o)_o [14:34] so my hplip is too old. [14:34] I wonder if I can safely upgrade it without breaking anything, on 12.2 [14:34] otoh, not having swap is often nice (and I know when the machine is going to use the swap) [14:34] thumbs: you could screw up with the .tgz -> .txz upgrade :) [14:35] Camarade_Tux: I was gonna mod the official slackbuild [14:35] plus my hard drive is usually stopped now, I don't want swap :D [14:35] thumbs: you'd probably better upgrade :D [14:35] err, wait, thumbs, what is your graphic card? [14:35] Camarade_Tux: not really a possibility now [14:36] Camarade_Tux: hplip for HP printers. [14:36] s/for/is for/ [14:36] why does my slack install have no user ? :O [14:36] cos you created none? [14:36] Guest37053 (i=buffer@77.246.19.109) left irc: Client Quit [14:36] if i try to login as root it says: Unable to determine your tty name [14:36] not even root? :D [14:37] errr :P [14:37] thumbs: well, yeah, you can mod the slackbuild then ;) [14:37] dont seems like no user [14:37] Camarade_Tux: worse case scenario, I revert to 2.8.10 [14:37] guax: i just ran setup on disk1, didn't add any users [14:38] and im pretty shure you cant without doing it manualy with chroot, but root user is aways default created even without password [14:38] well, root should be there [14:38] and your error is like another problem. [14:39] hmm [14:39] pprkut: bah, have to reboot, I've made modules_install in between ;) [14:41] hi Camarade_Tux :) [14:43] giuppy_ (n=giuppy@host159-162-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [14:43] well,any idea why slackware doesn't ship with notification-daemon , [14:43] because it hates you! [14:43] and wishes to see you SUFFER! heretic! [14:43] i mean its quite useful for xfce [14:43] emperor willing [14:43] missyjane: :) [14:44] hi missyjane [14:44] greetings missyjane [14:44] i have hrd alot about you :) [14:44] :) hi init[1] + slackytude [14:44] thanks [14:44] giuppy (n=giuppy@host227-168-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:44] Nick change: giuppy_ -> giuppy [14:45] ciao a tutti! [14:45] slackytude: any idea ! [14:45] huh? [14:46] s0d0 (n=john@host81-141-108-246.wlms-broadband.com) joined ##slackware. [14:46] i mean about the notifciation-daemon [14:46] slackytude is a space marine! do not ask trivial question citizen! [14:46] I had this great idea once, about a lizard that gets really big and destroys tokyo [14:46] but godzilla stole it [14:46] slackytude: godzilla [14:46] Action: slackytude nods [14:46] bunch of hitlers [14:47] but it was not tokyo! it was in NY [14:47] init[1], idea about what? [14:47] well godzilla haven't stole it [14:47] slackytude: comunists! [14:47] slackytude: about the notification daemon [14:47] missyjane, read heinlein much? [14:47] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:cf) left irc: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [14:47] init[1], notification daemon? like what? [14:48] slackytude, i want to but never foudn time [14:48] slackytude: I am filing bugs to rename the Mozilla foundation to the Godzilla foundation. [14:48] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:cf) joined ##slackware. [14:48] missyjane, saw the flick then? [14:48] no [14:48] missyjane, played warhammer? [14:48] slackytude: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/notification-daemon-xfce [14:49] its quite handy [14:49] bah, it won't bug now [14:49] init[1], oh thats cool, I got that [14:49] init[1], easy for remote messaging as well [14:49] slackytude, yes :) [14:49] yo missyjane :) [14:49] init[1], its on sbo [14:49] missyjane, ah, gotcha [14:49] I AM LADY JANE, you shall address me as such! incompetent fool! EMPEROR WILLING! for sisters of battle WILL CLEANSE WITH FIRE! [14:50] slackytude, im reading the war40k books tho like right now im reading "The Imperial Infantryyman's Uplifting Primer" [14:50] lol [14:50] slackytude: yea i know that , my question is it being soo usefuly why doesn't it come with slackware xfce pkg [14:50] mohaa (n=mohaa@92.49.76.90) joined ##slackware. [14:50] missyjane: "LADY JANE" sounds like BDSM :D [14:51] missyjane: are you a female slackware user ? o_O [14:51] init[1], yes [14:51] omg! [14:51] Camarade_Tux, BAH! space marine, form a chapter, we call it "SLACKWARE" [14:51] missyjane, gotta check them out then. never read those, nor any spinoff stuff. I was once very close to buying a shadowrun book, tho, coz the cover was cool [14:51] good to meet you [14:51] init[1], I have no clue at all ^-^ [14:52] SLACKWARE, the newest chapter of the emperor, WILL DEPLOY WITH BLOOD RAVEN! [14:52] init[1], Im just stupid user I no make decision [14:52] O.O [14:52] together SLACKWARE, WE WILL WIPE ALL SYSTEMS CLEAN OF FILTH! [14:52] missyjane: I think you're killing init[1], he's making a heart attack right now :D [14:52] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) joined ##slackware. [14:52] D: why? [14:52] Whoa, turn down the crazy. [14:52] is he afraid of the emperor's ETERNAL LIGHT? [14:52] crazy, this is SLACKWARE [14:52] SLACKWARE CHAPTER! we devote ourselves to the EMPEROR! [14:52] ha! finally I can misquote 300 [14:52] ;D [14:53] missyjane: nah, "female slackware user ? o_O" ;) [14:53] Nick change: init[1] -> godzilla [14:53] init[1]: you mean: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/notification-daemon-xfce ? [14:53] BP{k}: yes [14:53] BP{k}, way to late [14:53] Keiffer (n=mIRCuser@unaffiliated/jbauer) left irc: SendQ exceeded [14:53] too even [14:53] Camarade_Tux, oh haha [14:53] slackytude: well you failed to come up with a proper answer I see. :P [14:53] chb (n=1000@unixboard/mod/chb) left irc: [14:54] BP{k}, well, what is the proper answer then [14:54] fnord0 (n=fnord0@unaffiliated/fnord0) left irc: "+++ OK ATH OK" [14:54] Action: Camarade_Tux reboots for the fifth time [14:54] Camarade_Tux, wy? [14:54] why? [14:54] well it's part of the XFCE goodies, not part of XFCE. Thus not included in XFCE. However there is a buildscript for it as SBo. [14:55] missyjane: trying to have my touchpad fail :) [14:55] (ie, reproduce a bug) [14:55] And I can well understand Pat not wanting to include one goodie, but not the other. After all where will the line be drawn on what is usefull. [14:55] BP{k}, this only begs another question, why are the goodies not included [14:55] brb >< [14:55] BP{k}: yea even Power Manger / Thunar vol is not part of xfce [14:55] Camarade_Tux, i see, what bug is this? what laptop? i can see if i can try to attemp the tsame hting [14:56] but its being shipped right? [14:56] are there a lot of apps the use tha notification daemon? [14:56] Kaapa: i mean like when we hot plug devices etc [14:56] and i do use it with irssi to notify me [14:56] Kaapa, not really, except the volman plugin, but its pretty easy to make your own. got a bunch of notifications now [14:56] slackytude: I'm not building them for sure [14:56] godzilla: yes, those are shipped. Probably because Pat finds those more useful then othe others. [14:57] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [14:57] but if thunderbird and other stuff used it, that would be different [14:57] though to be honest, imperial army suck, too strict, you cant even tell your commander a word of disappointment or youll be shot [14:57] ooh . that clear the air :) [14:57] considering that rworkman provides most of the goodies on SBo. I am not seeing too much of a problem here :) [14:57] if it's just for volman, I'll gladely skip yet another daemon [14:57] BP{k}: not a problem thoug, but kde has this feature [14:57] missyjane: probably not otherwise you'd already noticed it ;) [14:57] Godwin (n=idriss@ALagny-251-1-72-245.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined ##slackware. [14:58] missyjane: sometimes the touchpad isn't detected and thus doesn't work [14:58] so pretty noticeable ;) [14:58] why does it say x is included on disk1 ? ;o wtf [14:58] dakarn: Where does it say that? [14:58] Godwin (n=idriss@ALagny-251-1-72-245.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) left ##slackware ("Quitte"). [14:59] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@200.69.251.233) joined ##slackware. [14:59] Camarade_Tux, hm ok, strange [14:59] BP{k}: in the menu list [15:00] WTF A $900 CASE? http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=32689&vpn=Broodling-SilverCosmos1000&manufacture=Smoothcreations [15:00] dakarn: you mean the menu of the installer? [15:00] yea [15:00] godzilla (i=1000@shellium/member/buffer) left irc: "well time to sleep" [15:00] dakarn: ah, it just tells you what disk-series there are. IT doesn't have any relevance to what is what on disk. It will just ask you to pop in the second/third disk if needed. [15:01] eviljames: holy fark. overpriced much? [15:01] BP{k}: but... airbrushiness! [15:01] eviljames: but ... 900 USD!! [15:01] CAD [15:02] But still, the point stands. Lunacy. [15:02] eviljames, i like the design of that case [15:02] since my case is stuck under my desk, I can't be arsed too much what it looks like :) [15:02] pizzledizzle (n=pizdets@pool-96-250-220-91.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:02] BP{k}, your loss to be honest [15:03] my case is literally on the desk near my monitor [15:03] and... i see it almost everyday, plus it helps avoid dust [15:03] i have literally no dust in my case because of this [15:03] none, whatsoever [15:04] I have no dust in my case because of routine maintenance. [15:04] BP{k}: gotcha. i'll just have to use disk 2 :p [15:04] But putting a computer case on a desk is an eyesore, this one is especially so. [15:04] eviljames: as usual, you spend twice as much as the case on the cpu, almost the same on ram, a third on the optical drive, as much on the storage, twice as much on the graphic card [15:05] now, what do you have? :D [15:05] ive literally also never maintained my pc lol [15:05] missyjane: not really. 1) regular maintenance 2) since I already stated design I don't care about desgin it's not my loss :) 3) having it on my desk clutters it too much. [15:05] i have no neeed to >< [15:05] eviljames, BP{k} i need it to look good and my case looks good too :D [15:05] oh im organized, so not much clutter, save what im doing today like to-do notes lol [15:05] so its jus tkeyboard, mouse, a few papers, books on the far left, pc on the far right, and a sexy monitor to stare at [15:06] too comfortable, its almost dangerous... [15:06] yay i have a terminal now [15:06] tooly (n=theo@e178170216.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: "Leaving." [15:07] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: "ba ba ba bababaran" [15:07] giuppy_ (n=giuppy@host86-173-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined ##slackware. [15:07] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [15:07] dakarn, what was the prob? [15:08] adeodatus (n=RF@92.84.26.230) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:08] giuppy (n=giuppy@host159-162-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:08] Nick change: giuppy_ -> giuppy [15:09] i'll pm you cause i'm an idiot [15:09] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-11.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [15:09] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: "Leaving" [15:09] adeodatus (n=RF@92.85.210.221) joined ##slackware. [15:11] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@200.69.251.233) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [15:11] Hey, anybody seen the latest Microsoft ads? The ones that prove you'd have to be a half-retarded 4 year old to use their products? [15:12] eviljames: what, the "I am 4 years old and I am a pc" type adds? [15:12] eviljames, link? :D [15:12] ^_^ [15:12] no, they don't advertise here in uganda. they only kick down doors and stick a gun in your face for having pirated copies of their software. [15:12] BP{k}: Yep, those ones. [15:12] (not kidding, either) [15:12] eviljames: yeah, they're all over the UK a while back. [15:13] microsoft reps were with cops on the ground when they raided a number of places a few months ago here [15:13] spectre1, for great justice [15:13] it went down basically as i described [15:13] then they took the people to CPS for "interrogation" [15:13] evidence was a bundle of CD's [15:14] See - this is what I'm talking about when I say that copyright is getting crazy and out of control. [15:14] Action: slackytude nods [15:14] very few argue about that [15:14] there was a case in germany were a swat team raided the home of a chatter from whose IP a threat was made [15:15] apparently he used an open wifi and didnt do it,but since he used an open wifi, he is too blame [15:15] s/too/to [15:16] slackytude: in france the thing is basically that it is *your* network so you have to keep an eye on it [15:16] Action: slackytude nods [15:16] (don't know if that really applies to regular home networks but that applies to bigger networks) [15:17] wireless home networks come unsecured by default and so i would imagine it's unreasonable to expect users to be liable [15:17] they are. that was establised in a filesharing case [15:18] so far juries haven't bought the argument of open waps. [15:18] byteframe (n=bytefram@pool-98-118-79-99.bstnma.east.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:18] i wanna see links to that [15:18] content ownser sued based on IP and won, therefor IP is your responsibility [15:18] until i drive to their house and download child-porn using their unsecured link [15:18] WTF-8 (n=WTF-8@d92-156.icpnet.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:19] WTF-8 (n=WTF-8@d92-156.icpnet.pl) left irc: Client Quit [15:19] okay i put cd2 on a usb drive so how do i install packages from it [15:19] i have to imagine the defense was terrible in that case [15:19] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [15:19] the thing is that juries probably also have unsecure hotspots too, they will definitely be biaised [15:19] spectre1, but Ive heard about stuff like that before [15:19] to the jury: "Do YOU know what WPA2 stands for?" [15:19] done [15:20] spectre1: had that in France I think [15:20] (and the same with Tor) [15:20] http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=220830&start=0 [15:20] spectre1, that was in the US, tho, when copyright protection became somehow a responsibilty of the DHS [15:20] spectre1: do you know what WPA_1_ stands for? the jury: security blah blah. you: wpa1 just sucks, see [15:20] oh, didn't you know? it's a national security threat [15:20] and you crack a wpa1 thing in ten seconds [15:21] http://www.cybercrimelaw.org/2007/10/05/open-wireless-defense-not-so-successful/ [15:21] The whole thing is ridiculous! WTF ever happened to MENS REA?! [15:21] rea? [15:21] money talks [15:21] slackytude: yes, rhea. :P [15:22] rhea? :D [15:22] Action: Camarade_Tux only knows one english word that ends in rhea or somthing like that [15:22] Action: slackytude is confused as well [15:23] let's start X [15:23] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.74) left irc: "leaving" [15:23] To be guilty of most crimes, a defendant must have committed the criminal act (the actus reus) in a certain mental state (the mens rea). [15:23] one day this touchpad will gail again [15:23] ah [15:23] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl27-118.kav.forthnet.gr) joined ##slackware. [15:23] haldir: if you let your dog eat a child, you're responsible [15:24] s/gail/fail/ [15:24] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488364.dsl.bell.ca) left irc: Client Quit [15:25] So, in short, how can one be guilty of a crime they never committed, nor intended to commit? [15:25] Camarade_Tux, that is usually statutory. in the old common law you weren't responsible if you did not know the dog was vicious. my state still adheres to the first bite is free [15:25] I never made a threat, nor intended to make a threat, nor have any idea how to secure a wifi network - how can I be guilty? [15:26] eviljames, but that is a question of fact not a question of law, so it is up to the jury to decide and most of them are idiots. [15:27] haldir: That's why it'd be impossible to find a jury of my peers. I'm in the top 0.00000000000000000001% of all people, intelligence wise - I don't even know if there ARE 12 people capable of being considered my peers. [15:27] Karu (n=chatzill@77-233-74-214.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) joined ##slackware. [15:27] eviljames: you're responsible of a crime you commited, if you didn't intend to, you're responsible to a less extent [15:27] adeodatus (n=RF@92.85.210.221) left irc: Connection timed out [15:28] eviljames: you should know how to secure your network: if you own something, you should be able to use it safely [15:28] Camarade_Tux: If you did an action, you intended to do that action is the general rule. That's why accidental deaths (for example) are manslaughter. [15:28] Action: Camarade_Tux is mpaa/riaa's lawyer [15:28] die [15:29] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207160135.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:29] eviljames: I already found one to be your peer: Bush child [15:30] ph|ber (n=phiber@mail.synergies4u.com) joined ##slackware. [15:30] hmmm, a car crash: you're responsible for it [15:30] man, the google wave stuff is impressive [15:30] Not necessarily. [15:31] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) joined ##slackware. [15:31] eviljames: yeah, I mean, there is at least one person responsible for it [15:31] Camarade_Tux: Unless you're really intending to, you'll never be charged with murder for killing someone in a car accident. Vehicular manslaughter, sometimes, but that's usually if you were being negligent. [15:31] Camarade_Tux: Many places go with 'no fault' accidents. [15:31] eviljames: yep, exactly [15:32] you could say you've been hacked because the ISP sold you something without letting you know of the possible problems [15:33] BAAUAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFHKIFDjk9I [15:33] TO ARM!! SISTERS OF BATTLE! [15:33] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207160135.chello.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [15:33] if I select some text on irssi, I can't paste it in firefox [15:33] that's why I usually don't click links now, better for my eyes too >< [15:34] Camarade_Tux, which terminal do you use? [15:34] xterm+ssh+irssi [15:34] Camarade_Tux, in ff, you have to middle click in the address bar for it to paste. :D [15:34] if I use the mouse to select the link, it's ok [15:35] well, any browser for that matter, if you use urxvt, rxvt, eterm, aterm, xterm, etc. you need to use middle-click in the app you want to paste in. [15:35] missyjane, movie? game? [15:35] err, seems to sometimes work... [15:35] Action: Camarade_Tux rather clicks on the starcraft2 links [15:36] slackytude, game [15:36] Camarade_Tux, blizzard stole from warhammer [15:36] this has been admitted by blizzard themselves [15:36] ah, too bad [15:37] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [15:37] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207160135.chello.pl) joined ##slackware. [15:37] missyjane: but they made a good game ;) [15:37] Isn't warhammer the game for social misfits who don't have enough nerd skill to run a UNIX or UNIX-like OS paint figurines to play a cheezey D&D knockoff? [15:37] and warhammer is too complicated for my taste [15:38] o.o [15:38] >:( [15:38] disappointing, very disappointing [15:38] Camarade_Tux, um starcraft is essentially the same thing as war40k [15:38] only with slightly different twist [15:38] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [15:38] zergs = tyranids, terran = space marines [15:39] hell the way snipers call down dropship is the exact same way the dropship come down for reinforcement [15:39] difference betweens space marines in starcraft and warhammer is, warhammer get their space marines from the best warriors on the planet, while all space marines were former criminals [15:40] so rapists, murderers, etc are your average space marines in starcraft [15:40] sounds better :D [15:40] tyranid, the zergling models are literally the exact same as the tyranids [15:40] not really, there are little to no criminals in warhammer, except something call chaos [15:40] I don't mind feeding those marines to zerglings [15:40] lol [15:40] ;) neither do i [15:40] teasing missyjane is terribly easy :P [15:40] but space marines in warhammer are more respectable and stronger [15:41] SHUT UP <:( you didnt tease me [15:41] lowkyalur (n=low@dslb-088-070-030-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined ##slackware. [15:41] hehe :P [15:41] as I said :D [15:41] [ in bed ] [15:41] Action: Camarade_Tux opens a wordreference.com tab [15:42] josefig (n=josefig@201.164.87.248) joined ##slackware. [15:42] yeah, I'm right :D [15:42] now if I check on urbandictionnary.com, I get another definition ;p [15:43] Nick change: twolf_ -> twolf [15:44] harmattan (n=harmatta@213.37.52.175.static.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [15:44] hey guys, are all 64-bit apps meant to go in /lib64? [15:44] err 64-bit apps libs* [15:44] and /usr/lib64 too [15:45] afaik, yes [15:45] almost all of them. udev still does to /lib/ [15:45] slacky: i'm going to get this running, burn the dvd.iso tomorrow and do a minimal install [15:45] slacky: this is RIDICULOUS :( [15:45] hm? [15:46] whats the problem? [15:46] dakarn: how much harddrive space do you have? [15:47] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:47] thrice`, you play around with xen ? [15:47] thrice`: enough to complete installpkg */*tgz apparently [15:47] jeev: sorry, never :( [15:47] thrice`: but to clarify, about 160g [15:47] i found your picture with him! http://ant.sillydog.org/blog/pic/xen_and_me01.jpg [15:48] hehe just kdiding [15:48] it's pissing me fof [15:48] Channel flood from jeev -- kicking [15:48] off [15:48] jeev kicked from ##slackware by slackboy: flood [15:48] and you complain about slack? installed win7 recently? [15:48] then why are you set on trimming it so much? [15:48] k, THIS is fsckin COOL: [15:48] err [15:48] http://blog.karagos.com/post/114229575/yellow-bird [15:49] dakarn: I'd consider installing at least all of a/, ap/, d/, l/, n/, and x/ [15:50] i did a min install from cd1, then did a full install of cd2 [15:50] ilj_ (n=ilj@195.88.15.2) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:50] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) joined ##slackware. [15:50] jeev (n=email@unaffiliated/jeev) joined ##slackware. [15:51] wtf i just noticed [15:51] eviljames, nifty shit [15:51] dakarn: that seems backwards to me :) [15:51] jeev: lol [15:51] :> [15:51] thrice`: exactly. but i only have one thumb drive so i just mounted it and used installpkg to save time [15:52] dakarn: well, do you have a good internet connection? the usb installers supports HTTP/FTP, NFS, etc. installs [15:52] i connect via mobile broadband usb dongle (ppp) [15:52] dakarn: that's maybe why you didn't get any user account :D [15:53] Camarade_Tux: i didn't get a user account because when i enlarged the root partition with cfdisk i didn't format, and thus i had leftovers of a previous install... [15:53] http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb183/axe_059/DSCF1227.jpg [15:53] whatta file server [15:54] Karu (n=chatzill@77-233-74-214.cdma.dyn.kou.ee) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:54] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) joined ##slackware. [15:54] dakarn: lol :D [15:55] jeev, eh, that cant be good [15:55] rg3 (n=deckard@83.231.85.53) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:55] jeev: 20TB of porn! \o/ [15:55] oh no, more [15:55] eviljames: does composite work for you with 2.7.1/EXA/2.6.29.6-smp/rlworkman-xorg? [15:55] Guest50365 (n=eddie@pool-68-160-229-118.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [15:56] I count 35 disks. [15:56] 35*1.5TB :D [15:56] ccfreak2k: ;) [15:56] ludverc (n=ludverc@dsl91ECCE56.pool.t-online.hu) left irc: "Leaving" [15:56] macavity: uhm, I didn't test that yet. Tonight when I get home from work I will. [15:56] stupid samba.. [15:56] i wish schools would start teaching basic Linux/unix conscepts [15:56] eh, samba is great [15:56] macavity: UXA is how I got the results posted in the lq.net across the board [15:57] default settup.. per alienBOB's request [15:57] Guest50365 (n=eddie@pool-68-160-229-118.ny325.east.verizon.net) left irc: Client Quit [15:58] slackytude: yeah but i have joined three servers to AD without problem, now the fourth is giving me Logon failure for no aparent reason.. only thing i can think of is that its older version of samba.. [15:58] bleh [15:58] it is very important that it works if with "no tweaking" [15:58] The phone cryinnnnng [15:58] (Claude françois) :p [15:58] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) joined ##slackware. [16:00] tewmten, three samba servers in AD and fourth doesnt want to? which version? [16:00] macavity: with intel-2.8 on my desktop and no xorg.conf file the default is UXA - I will change it back to 2.7.1 and report when I get home. [16:00] tewmten, to get my slack 12.1 to work with AD I actually went down some versions [16:01] slackytude: the working ones use 3.0.33-3.7 and the server im having problem has 3.0.28-0 [16:01] and also winbind just dies after i try to start it [16:01] thats bad [16:01] yeah [16:01] hmmm, if i'm using urxvt to ssh into a machine that doesn't have unicode enabled bash, can i still use alternate input methods? >.> [16:01] spectre1 (n=kyle@41.210.144.95) left ##slackware. [16:01] snearch (n=olaf@82.113.106.20) joined ##slackware. [16:02] slackytude: kinit works, i have a ticket.. but joining the domain it fails [16:02] tewmten, those are slack machines? [16:02] Necos: good question, if you get the answer of how this works, tell me :D [16:02] no, the working ones are centos 5.2, the non-working one is centos 4.7 [16:02] hrm [16:02] Im pretty sure the samba I used is even older [16:02] rhys (n=rhys@cpe-174-100-128-195.neo.res.rr.com) left irc: "Leaving" [16:03] i don't know the answer lol [16:03] eviljames: awesome :-) [16:03] harmattan (n=harmatta@213.37.52.175.static.user.ono.com) left irc: "Saliendo" [16:03] rworkman: could you edit your initial message to bend the message in neon? [16:03] Action: slackytude checks [16:04] monstro (n=monstro@189.111.16.215) joined ##slackware. [16:04] hi #slackware [16:04] tewmten, actually no [16:04] rworkman: about half of the post would have been useless if i hadn't had people run through hoops for us :P [16:04] hello monstro [16:04] lol [16:04] how to configure a pcmcia card in slackware 12.2 ? [16:04] tewmten, 3.0.28 is what came with slack 12.1 and I had to downgrade because I was unable to get into domain [16:05] aha [16:05] tewmten, cant remeber what the actual issue was but in that Im certain [16:05] monstro, you have rc.pcmcia or something running ? [16:05] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [16:05] /etc/init.d/rc.pcmcia [16:05] if i recall [16:05] well im annoying the muppets in #centos with my problems at the moment :P [16:05] init.d? bad jeev [16:05] i have no idea turd [16:05] rc.d [16:05] /etc/rc.d [16:05] aren't you on slackware? [16:06] Jean, know tutorial ? [16:06] not often [16:06] or just run that script... [16:06] :( [16:06] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) joined ##slackware. [16:06] sorry. [16:06] jeev, [16:06] /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia start <--- i think that's more correct [16:07] ahh why did i say init.d [16:07] heh [16:07] it detect automatic the card? [16:07] debian fail :P [16:07] jeev is a fraud [16:07] jeev: You said init.d because your sister and mother are the same person? [16:08] i'm running debian on the xen system ;( [16:08] shik4nt4z4 (n=pri4pus@unaffiliated/pri4pus) left irc: "leaving" [16:08] im trying top get slack64 img's [16:08] Oh, right, because the xenning of slack didn't go so well. [16:08] i mean it did [16:08] actually.. [16:08] i just cant get a 64bit guest [16:08] Your proc doesnt' support VT? [16:09] + i couldn't get it really working well with lvm and stuff [16:09] not the one at the office that i dedicate to slack [16:09] i got a good one there that i just movedo ff slack cause it was beingw asted ;) [16:09] wasted [16:09] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) left irc: "Leaving" [16:10] Xen can do 64-bit on 64-bit paravirt to my knowledge :) [16:10] There's no need for VT, but the kernel has to be an older one with Xen's patches [16:11] none of the paravirt_ops stuff and built in DomU support is fully stable with 64-bit paravirt to my knowledge [16:11] http://www.thelocal.se/19120.html wow! irobot is becoming a true story :P [16:11] >_< [16:11] and later on they added 32-bit DomU on 64-bit Dom0 paravirt (again, use older RHEL 5 Xen kernel) [16:11] lets try our hand at the slackbuilds [16:11] .. [16:13] Pig_Pen, you just can't trust them robots.. [16:13] not me [16:14] Sarah Conner? [16:14] Connord? [16:14] the use of the word "attacked" is totally idiotic in this context [16:14] an attack is a deliberate action to harm [16:14] yeah, it was just a software malfunction or something like that [16:14] not a deliberate action to lift a rock that insidentially happened to actually be some guys head [16:15] guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:15] it thought the guys head was a rock [16:15] that's the media for you [16:15] that has happened before [16:15] for instance last night when i thought Neo_The_User's head was a rock [16:15] see.. it happens all the time [16:15] easy mistake to make [16:16] you see that latest comment at noobfarm? [16:16] i surely dont hope the high commission of AI wants to put *me* under the microscope for that little insident.. we all get fpu exception errors from time to time [16:17] well, slack just isnt 64 bit enough [16:17] just dont get too close to any rock handling robots [16:17] Pig_Pen: priceless :-) [16:17] haldir (n=haldir@addr-66.249.234.19.nptpop-cmts02-dial-sub.rdns-bnin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [16:17] it's like 61-bit [16:17] not 64bit enough [16:17] yeah [16:17] so far slackbuild scripts seem NICE [16:17] if that rockhead returns i will gladly act as his personal rock handling robot [16:18] thrice`: technically it is 63.9999999~ bit because Partick used a cheep ass chineese pocket calculator when he calculated the boot strap sequence codes [16:19] that is one of the craziest comments i seen in a long time, either it is or it isnt 64 bit, there is no in-between [16:19] dakarn: sbopkg is your freind :-) [16:19] rg3 (n=deckard@62.32.130.56) joined ##slackware. [16:20] slackytude++ [16:20] myspl (n=stephen@150.182.230.248) left ##slackware. [16:20] dakarn: obtain it as sbopkg.org and be SO LEET that you will get envited to the kind of parties that only wizards and hackers attend! [16:20] NthDegree, ? [16:20] slackytude, 64-bit'ness ;) [16:20] s/as/at/ [16:20] cause we don't have -m64! :P [16:20] Action: NthDegree giggles muchly [16:20] macavity: do all these packages install to the correct directory? [16:21] dakarn: if they dont we sure as hell would like a bug repport :P [16:21] Several people on dope here seemingly [16:21] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) joined ##slackware. [16:21] alienBOB: want some? [16:21] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [16:21] dakarn, no, they do flip a coin before installing [16:21] alienBOB: dude! no way! [16:21] I don't need dope [16:21] macavity: why won't it run from command line then? [16:21] alienBOB: we have noticed ;-) [16:22] dakarn: what? [16:22] Btw, thanks for mentioning sbopkg.org - I was wondering where to get that from :) [16:22] NthDegree: google gives you sbopkg.org if you click "i feel luckey" :P [16:22] :$ [16:23] dakarn: did you use "su" or "su -" when you switched to root? [16:23] this is a fresh install and the only user is root atm [16:23] dakarn: you must install the package it produces :) [16:24] the package that is in /tmp/ ? [16:25] per default, yes [16:25] dakarn: awesome you say? [16:25] you can tell sbopkg to build and install, tho [16:25] yep, "installpkg /tmp/your_package-blah.tgz" [16:26] or cd /tmp && pkgtool ^-^ [16:26] ah yeah i see that [16:26] I prefer upgradepkg --install-new just in case [16:26] i lost one of the three tho [16:26] Sometimes old packages lurk without you knowing. [16:27] eviljames, good point [16:27] dakarn: did you build and install confuse and imlib2 before building awesome? [16:27] nope [16:27] then awesome did not build correctly [16:28] you should really start reading the README files... [16:28] sometimes, those files want you to read them! [16:28] and i know this stuff is correct, as it is a .SlackBuild by chess, and it is approved by rworkman :P [16:28] stupid confusing file names... [16:28] i did -- it said ./configure > make > make install [16:28] eviljames: yeah, they get me every time [16:29] dakarn: no, the .SlackBuild readme for awesome...... [16:29] ./configure && make && make install [16:29] ... [16:29] dakarn, huh? why configure and make? [16:29] dakarn: you *are* attempting to use awesome.SlackBuild to create the package, right? [16:29] exbio (n=ada@unaffiliated/exbio) joined ##slackware. [16:29] dakarn: http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [16:29] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422737.home.otenet.gr) joined ##slackware. [16:30] I swear, slackbuilds.org needs a flash video howto [16:30] okay just so everyone knows. i did download the source and the slackbuild file and ran everything. i didn't know i had to do the installpkg on the *.tgz [16:30] flame on <3 [16:30] :P [16:30] http://slackbuilds.org/howto/ [16:30] no problem, it's a simple mistake [16:31] or better yet, remove the stuff that you did, and use sbopkg from now on [16:31] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:31] IceChant (n=icechant@87.69.197.220) joined ##slackware. [16:32] does anyone know how i can stop wget (its stuck) and resume it? ctrl+c and wgeting the file again doesnt resume it [16:32] that way you are sure that you get it right.. and if it says stuff like "awesome requires confuse and imlib2", then you just find confuse and add it to the queue, then find imlib2 and add it to the queue, then add awesome to the queue, and select Build Queue -> Build and Install [16:32] it starts from scratch [16:32] sahko kill and wget -cv [16:33] wget -c [16:33] oh it unstuck itself [16:33] ah man, the wget manpage doesn't even have the word "resume" in it [16:33] macavity, need to reorder [16:34] macavity: i thought the problem was the way i killed it [16:34] slackytude: oh, yes.. now it "does the right thing" :P [16:34] slackytude: stack based queues FTW! :P [16:34] Action: slackytude nods [16:37] FF breakage: http://imagebin.org/57537 [16:37] pretty funky, huh? [16:37] disco! [16:38] FF on Disco Crackers? [16:38] sahko: also take into account the -c option sometimes does not work [16:39] rg3: by far the wast majority of http and ftp server support resume download these days [16:39] rg3: probably MS IIS 5.x and before does not or something like that [16:39] i didnt have to use it. bbl [16:39] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) left irc: "leaving" [16:39] http://www.osnews.com/story/21903/Apple_Rejects_Official_Google_Voice_iPhone_App <- when will people understand the goal on an iphone is to rip them of their money? [16:39] macavity: no, i was refering to some servers which are configured not to allow resume, on purpose [16:40] eek [16:40] hrm, like rapidshare or other download sites [16:40] that is a waste of money on their part [16:40] gtl (n=gustavo@187.5.184.111) left irc: "Leaving" [16:40] O_O [16:40] or those gamespy ones [16:40] with waiting queus [16:40] queues [16:40] macavity: not really, they earn more money if you come back and visit their pages to get the file/video/whatever [16:40] and they cant set it up so you just have to get in the wait queue *again* before the download resumes? [16:41] or sell premium downloads with high speed [16:41] macavity: just to give you an example: youtube for a long time didn't allow resuming video downloads if you managed to find the real video url [16:42] well.. ftp.slackware.no and BT is all i ever use for big downloads, so what do i know :P [16:42] ugh [16:42] i hate life [16:42] i cant take any risk [16:42] macavity: the urls only allowed one use, so to speak [16:43] is there a panel included in slack :p [16:43] panel? [16:43] xfce4-panel works but is there another [16:43] kicker? [16:43] ./lol2 3000 0 winter [16:44] ops sorry [16:44] :P [16:44] lol2 eh? [16:44] 9 [16:44] Found winter [16:44] 10 [16:45] bash.org and noobfarm searcher [16:46] 19 liner [16:46] python? [16:47] well 17 [16:47] bash [16:47] uses lynx [16:48] nifty [16:48] skepsi (n=kvirc@gprs8.vodafone.cz) joined ##slackware. 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[16:53] http://irssi.org/news/ChangeLog [16:54] Pig_Pen, not much at all. :P [16:54] dakarn: wow.. you are not alone: http://cheezburger.com/view.aspx?ciid=4821156 [16:54] yeah, i wont even log out and build for that [16:55] and to think that a 1337 lolcat would do a thing like that :P [16:55] wsp4th (i=wsp4th@208.88.85.160) joined ##slackware. [16:55] macavity: hehe [16:55] BP{k}: dont forget to rate it :P [16:55] hey im getting weird message... from the host machine i can execute /usr/bin/links https://www.mydomain.com/dir/myscript.php and i get this "ELinks: Error reading from socket" any clue what causes this? [16:56] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.185.126) joined ##slackware. [16:56] wsp4th: you compiled unix domain socets as a module, but forgot to load it? [16:59] Wilblake (n=matheus@unaffiliated/wilblake) joined ##slackware. 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[17:08] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [17:08] wb dive [17:08] hmmmm [17:09] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) left irc: Client Quit [17:09] i just wanted to thank everyone for their endearment of my noobness [17:09] dive (n=diverse@unaffiliated/dive) joined ##slackware. [17:09] dakarn: if you want to get ++ status, read all the URLs in the topic ;-) [17:09] wb yet again dive . :D [17:10] dive do you play wow? [17:10] macavity: i'm trying to stay off noobfarm in any embarassing dialogue [17:11] dakarn, don't hold your breath on that one. :P [17:11] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [17:11] dakarn, so you keep your slack? [17:11] even seasoned slackers find their way to noobfarm on occasion [17:11] Action: slackytude nods [17:12] fire|bird: what did you discover with your laptop? [17:12] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) joined ##slackware. [17:12] Pa^2 (n=GrumpyPa@63.238.104.170) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:12] slackytude: after i realized you can setup your WM in pkgtool, it's a lot easier than manually making an .xsession [17:12] dakarn, heh [17:12] dakarn, xwmconfig [17:12] bobJR (n=lulz@adsl-153-124-150.tys.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:12] dakarn, dont even need to run pkgtool, xwmconfig is what is get run [17:13] chopp, that it's still not working right. :P Could be video card, ram, or entire mobo. :( I don't think it's heat anymore. [17:13] oh man, the slashdot article about MS and SFLC is juicy :P [17:13] macavity, I can haz link? [17:13] brb going to the .conf file of irssi i dont like something [17:13] oh /. [17:13] slackytude: you're awesome, thanks [17:13] http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/07/28/0045229/SFLC-Says-Microsoft-Violated-the-GPL?art_pos=5 [17:13] dakarn, no sweat [17:13] slackytude: it is hillarious how many suck up the "M$ eventually *donated* the code" [17:13] fire|bird: you haven't been able to swap the ram with the other one yet I take it. [17:14] <|Slacker|> hey ppl! [17:14] chopp, I've swapped ram, same issues. [17:14] bobJR (n=lulz@adsl-153-124-150.tys.bellsouth.net) left irc: Client Quit [17:14] Action: macavity rolls on the floor laughing [17:14] [yop] (n=[yop]@unaffiliated/yop-lait) left irc: "hard reboot" [17:14] <|Slacker|> how do I make my win machine see a shared dir on my slack [17:14] macavity, I really dont care about that [17:14] macavity, as long as the code is proper [17:14] slackytude: .. and free of "IP" traps [17:15] well, if its GPL [17:15] I'm free of the trap, I'll make sure NOT to compile those drivers into my kernel. [17:15] :P [17:15] slackytude: GPLv2 has a hole in that regard :-/ [17:15] macavity, only if a judge says so [17:15] fire|bird: I found someone to buy one of my X31's, so I'm going to pickup an X41 tablet [17:15] chopp, nice [17:16] then I'll be bugging antiwire about pam for the fingerprint reader :P [17:17] bobJR (n=lulz@adsl-153-124-150.tys.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:17] mingdao (i=nobody@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [17:17] Lord_Khelben (n=null@adsl27-118.kav.forthnet.gr) left irc: "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" [17:17] so what's better GPL v2 or v3 [17:17] depends [17:18] slackytude: if the code MS donated contains a patneted idea, which is patented by someone else than MS, but MS made a cross licensed with (aka the MS<->Novel<->User template), then it could become a funny can of worms [17:18] anybody heard of the ram brand Hynix? that's one of the ram modules in my laptop, I've hever heard of that brand so I was curious. [17:18] |Slacker|, is it ext3? [17:18] eZ (n=eZ@200.169.162.250) joined ##slackware. [17:18] fuck.. not donated.. submitted [17:18] fire|bird, yup [17:18] macavity, heh, far fetched but possible [17:18] anyone know if the Intel 910GML, or Intel 915GM graphics chipset will cause me problems like a few are having lately? [17:18] see.. now even i fall into their PR wording :P [17:18] <|Slacker|> reiserfs [17:18] The latest intel code donations have been pretty good too! [17:18] fire|bird, well, lot's of branded ram have hynix chips on em here [17:18] time for bed. night [17:18] dakarn (n=skas@83.225.97.218) left irc: "shutdown -h" [17:19] now [17:19] mingdao, where are you at? [17:19] PRC [17:19] Kaapa_ (n=Somethin@bl9-250-240.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [17:19] PRC? [17:19] |Slacker|: i remember, total commander has a plugin to see reiserfs [17:19] Where all your chips come from. [17:19] China [17:19] Check my IP. [17:19] China? [17:19] heh [17:19] <|Slacker|> but it's a network share [17:19] yup [17:19] people's republic of China fooooolz! [17:19] mingdao, alright. thanks. :) [17:20] |Slacker|, a samba share? [17:20] <|Slacker|> yup [17:20] mingdao: Hey, some of my chips come from Japan! [17:20] slackytude: not more far fetched than that some people actually bought the MS "patent vouchers" via Novel [17:20] So when is China going to takeover the world? [17:20] anyone ever watch a movie called "After the Sunset" ? [17:20] (they're in Panasonic gear that still allegedly makes its own stuff under Matsushita name) [17:20] <|Slacker|> i'm able to see windows shares on slack but not the other way [17:20] eviljames, cause they paid to put their sticker on them [17:20] mingdao: touche :D [17:20] |Slacker|: Vista? [17:20] <|Slacker|> xp [17:20] odd [17:21] eviljames, No self-respecting Japanese is going to work in such a dangerous silicon environ. ;) [17:21] <|Slacker|> yeah and if I manually put the ip address\\share it asks me for a pass [17:21] fire|bird, http://www.hynix.com/gl/index.jsp [17:21] <|Slacker|> any pass I put there is rejected though [17:21] mingdao: hahah, I think they just hire chinese workers, give the locals the white collar jobs ;) [17:21] mingdao, thank you. I'll check that out. [17:21] caio (n=caio@190.244.44.18) left irc: "leaving" [17:21] s/locals/lolcats/ [17:21] either way, this laptop just isn't working well right now. :P [17:21] |Slacker|, ask in #samba too but Im guessing you need to add a user / pass with smbpasswd [17:21] superGear: All ur base r belong to us! [17:22] <|Slacker|> slackytude, thanks dude [17:22] |Slacker|, or change security setting on share and allow guests [17:22] macavity: if only. don't you just want to rewrite the intel drivers in LOLcode? [17:22] canhas "stdio.h"? [17:22] cuba (n=cuba@78-136-163-122.client.ufon.cz) joined ##slackware. [17:23] <|Slacker|> I've done that already [17:23] eviljames: zomfg, k i thoutz iz waz in lolcodez! [17:23] Well, bbl. [17:23] macavity: That would explain the current stability levels :D [17:23] PLZ OPEN DRI2? AWSUM THX! [17:23] eviljames: bingo :P [17:24] hey, I have ordered a new machine, is there any chance that 13 could be out in a week ? [17:24] stamp (n=stamp@chello087207160135.chello.pl) left irc: "Leaving" [17:25] ZAPOPEN_DRI2_FAST_MODE_NAOW(std_sht->*my-1337-gfx-gpu-chip-card); [17:25] cuba: nope [17:25] Action: slackytude rolls a D20 [17:25] cuba: The Moon is at the First Quarter [17:26] cuba: when it is ready, it will be out [17:26] ask not for whom the bell tolls for it might toll for thee [17:26] O_o [17:26] wrong quote [17:26] Actually, fire|bird, Hynix is a Korean company. [17:26] ask not from whom the bell trolls? [17:27] monstro (n=monstro@189.111.16.215) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:27] Owned by Samsung, iirc, so you're free from the Chinese backdoors being in your memory. [17:27] macavity will let you know when Slackware 13 comes out [17:28] ok, and the 13.0rc1, is it the version which will finally become stable release ? [17:28] But you can bet if they're making chips, they're using China's cheap labor. [17:28] Billtoo (n=Billtoo@bas4-unionville55-1279488364.dsl.bell.ca) joined ##slackware. [17:28] Just like all those greedy Umerican companies. [17:28] cuba, if they can keep X.Org tied down. ;) [17:29] superGear: Patrick is very super stitious.. so 13 will never be out. It will be delayed infinitely untill SuSE is at 13.0, at which point Slackware *naturally* has to relase 15.0 to show that is is an older and more mature distro ;-) [17:29] It's a moving target atm. [17:29] We're already past RC1 [17:29] Kaapa (n=Somethin@bl11-118-106.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:29] Nick change: Kaapa_ -> Kaapa [17:29] alienBOB: odd. i thought we were back in the BetaX series now :P [17:30] ;) ^^^ [17:30] RC1 WAS stable. :-) [17:30] I thought that beta died in favour of VHS [17:30] damn shame too [17:30] >_< [17:31] mingdao (i=nobody@unaffiliated/mingdao) left irc: "Leaving" [17:32] snearch (n=olaf@82.113.106.19) joined ##slackware. [17:33] mingdao (i=nobody@unaffiliated/mingdao) joined ##slackware. [17:33] and what is the proper place to get current release from [17:33] I never know [17:33] cuba: any slackware mirror [17:33] !topic @ cuba [17:33] TL_CLD (n=TL_CLD@cpe.atm2-0-71283.banxx3.customer.tele.dk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:34] alienBOB, you need to change topic? ->> -current is now 13.0rc1 [17:34] cuba: if you dont bother making your own ISOs you can get *unofficial* ones from ftp://ftp.slackware.no [17:34] No, because it has not received a new name yet [17:35] mingdao: we had three updates since rc1, so it is kind of hard to tell what version we are at :P [17:35] yes, that's the place I took the last one from [17:35] bobJR (n=lulz@adsl-153-124-150.tys.bellsouth.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [17:35] charle97 (n=c@udp226182uds.hawaiiantel.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:35] or http://ftp.ua.freebsd.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current-iso/ [17:36] how big is the iso there? [17:36] http://ftp.ua.freebsd.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current-iso/ [17:36] sry [17:36] 21-Jul-2009 03:11 1759422464 [17:36] alienBOB, I thought it remained RC1 until it was RC2, or 13.0 [17:37] bobJR (n=lulz@adsl-153-124-150.tys.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] look at the changelog mingdao, there have clearly been updates [17:37] ok, that is probably the same as the .no ones.. that means without source/ [17:37] thrice`, really? [17:37] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-24-23-240-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [17:37] mingdao: are you on -current now? [17:37] ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt lots [17:37] on a number of boxen macavity [17:37] RC1 is nearing a month old [17:38] mingdao@silas64:~$ cat /etc/slackware-version [17:38] Slackware-x86_64 13.0 [17:38] Just depends upon the box. ;) [17:38] mingdao: any one of them using intel or open source radeon[hd] drivers? [17:38] macavity, BLASPHEMY [17:38] distro[Slackware 13.0.0.0.0] [17:38] macavity, all nVidia now [17:39] Just sent the last box with other (radeon) to a friend in the States [17:39] She's happy with it running XP. ;) It's her first computer. [17:39] mingdao: no dude.. you are the one who is supposed to say "idiocracy", and *I* am the one supposed to say "plasphemy", as i am the FSF Zealot, and you are the apolitical techie ;-) [17:39] *blashpemy [17:40] macavity, I could give a rip less about apolitical or political. [17:40] Nothing wrong with the nv driver, either. [17:40] Action: mingdao is a pragmatist on the comps [17:41] Action: superGear refuses to buy ATI [17:41] anyhow, if you dont have neither intel nor ati chips, then i wont pester you any more about testing the latest stuff in the mold [17:41] macavity, I had to special order this smuggled T61 to get nVidia. ;) [17:41] superGear: i have been at this for so many days in a row that i dont remember if i ever bothered you with it? [17:41] wasnt ATI supposed to get better? [17:42] you'd think [17:42] slackytude: we still need to get rworkmans packages tested against the new mesa [17:42] OSS ati has gotten a ton better [17:42] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:42] macavity, the mold is moving too much ;) (yes, again) [17:42] ha ha ha [17:42] slackytude: reading the changelog it *should* fix DRI [and composite?] for a lot of people using the Free driver [17:42] heh, actually Im using the radeon driver from xorgs [17:42] slackytude: get testing, naow! :P [17:43] its an old radeon mobility [17:43] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.172.48.dyn.user.ono.com) joined ##slackware. [17:43] slackytude: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/testing-request-xorg-in-current-yes-again-742820 [17:43] We Slackers should just be glad we don't have to deal with zypper of YaST2 or some other crap pkg mgr. [17:43] Thank Bob!!! [17:43] its "Bob" [17:43] we have to deal with pkgtools [17:43] doesnt matter.. we need the above tested against a stock kernel, stock radeon[hd] and no hand tweaking to xorg.cofn (better yet, can it run without one?) [17:44] superGear: good isn't it? :) [17:44] macavity, I have no clue, Im still on 12.1 [17:44] buy me a Radeon HD [17:44] slackytude: what the?!? i thought you were bussy testing out -current like every other sensible geek in this chan ;-) [17:45] superGear: if you have Intel we still need testing [17:45] slackytude isn't a geek [17:45] macavity, buy me a Intel machine ;P [17:45] superGear: what are you on there? [17:45] nah, gotta work and study. In my defense I pre-ordered 13 [17:45] and a t-shirt [17:46] slackytude++ [17:46] every little bit counts [17:46] slackytude is the only sane one here ;) [17:46] heh [17:46] macavity: are the Intel 910GML, or Intel 915GM graphics chipset effected? [17:46] I just got this laptop. can't really upgrade during finals [17:46] chopp: you are supposed to tell *us* :P [17:46] funny story btw [17:46] there was this dude who had fedora on his laptop [17:47] because he wanted to have all the new stuff [17:47] macavity: well I would but I won't have the laptop for a week or two. :P [17:47] chopp: then let's hope you dont miss the chance ;-) [17:48] and it was constantly crashing/freezing for him a few hours before the final chance to submit the programm he needed to write in java with RMI [17:48] chopp: it would be annoying like hell if 13.0 went out the door in a state that wouldn't let you use X without tweaking and/or 3rd party/testing packages [17:48] and too fix it he upgraded the kernel which made it worse [17:48] macavity: I look forward to that. I'll be right in there testing with the rest of you. [17:48] he was totally done for with not sleep and lot and lot of work [17:48] snearch (n=olaf@82.113.106.19) left irc: "Ex-Chat" [17:49] also funny was how many of my mates couldnt print to the cups servers anymore, while I set it up once and it worked like a charm the whole term [17:49] slackware for kickass stability [17:50] Old_Spike0 (n=Old_Spik@213.37.172.48.dyn.user.ono.com) left irc: "Leaving" [17:50] well, anyway [17:50] Well, Fedora is "unstable RedHat" anyway. [17:50] Action: slackytude slowly fades to background [17:50] yup.. that is why i dont like it one little bit that we have to do this whole xorg can of worms at this point in the cycle, but allas [17:51] Should have never left 1.6.1 IMO [17:51] i am 50:50 split between reverting to xorg-server-1.6.1 and going for the Mesa upgrade + 1.6.2 recompile [17:51] Not until the next -current cycle. [17:52] mingdao: i will tell you when when i get the stack of radeon cards in for testing [17:52] he he [17:52] macavity, have some sent here and I'll test for you. [17:52] Lots of boxen on this LAN. [17:52] mingdao: i found an ISO from just prior to the 1.6.2 upgrade, so i can make good repports on before, after and rworkman-fixes [17:53] mingdao: by all means, go RIGHT ahead [17:53] rworkman-fixes is an oxymoron ;) [17:53] macavity: it would give me something to do instead of sleeping at night, eh? :-) [17:53] mingdao: remember, stock kernels, default setup, repport on with and without rworkman's packages [17:53] nVidia ftw! [17:54] i have had to yank the chain on half the people who posted :-/ [17:54] That might be the ONLY sane choice I made years ago when coming to *nix ... nVidia video only. [17:54] dont bother reporting on nvidia.. we already know they work with and without [17:54] Reading is at a premium these days. [17:54] See? [17:54] lol [17:55] That's the answer ... not try every new X.Org release, Intel, ATI, etc. [17:55] Buy nVidia!!! [17:55] Cheaper in the short and long run. [17:56] well, good open source driver for ati would be great. I still run into fxlgr issues from time to time altho I dont buy ATI [17:56] Intel long ago made the MickeySoft stance clear. [17:57] uhm, before Patrick upgraded X, or with rworkmans testing packages, my I945GM runs better and faster than i have *ever* seen it on Windows [17:57] timahvo1 (n=rogue@41.223.57.78) left irc: "leaving" [17:57] mingdao: huh? they pay people to work on linux drivers [17:57] Which X was that? 1.6.1? [17:57] thrice`, supposedly ATI does that too [17:58] thrice`, they're wasting their money. [17:58] i can play 720p video in a transparent window, with a transparent konsole over it, while spinning the cube, and everything is still *smooth* [17:58] .. at 20% load on one of the cores [17:58] thrice`, altho I suspect they have just a lot of monkey bashing on keys [17:58] wth is spinning the cube macavity? [17:58] mingdao: really? being one of the most commonly shipped graphics cards in "typical" laptops, I'd disagree [17:58] (core2duo 2.16, 4MB L2) [17:58] mingdao, it means jacking off [17:58] he he [17:58] :P [17:58] mingdao: the desktop cube in KDE4 [17:59] vdvluc (n=luc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) left irc: "leaving" [17:59] macavity, that kde4 effects or compiz? [17:59] Why would one need a desktop cube in KDE4? [17:59] Is there some usefulness to it? [17:59] its good to impress people with [17:59] slackytude: KDE4 effects [17:59] macavity, different that the compiz cube? [17:59] Folk here get impressed with stability ... and things other than KDE. [18:00] mingdao, sure, those in here. in the real world many go for *blink* [18:00] mingdao: i have the bottom right corner set to react if i "press against it", which activates the cube... it is faster than clicking on another desktop selector on the taksbar [18:00] its a way to show off. altho some compiz effect are quite good for work as well, like expose [18:01] slackytude: na, pretty much the same [18:01] rite [18:01] macavity, it got expose? [18:01] i dont know what that is [18:01] Action: mingdao gets out his rubik's cube ... [18:01] where it zooms out to show all desktops in a row [18:02] it got this "pressent windows" if i press against top left corner.. that makes all the windows resize so they can be shown on the screen at the same time. then i click the one i want to focus [18:02] kamaji (n=kamaji@handtomouse.demon.co.uk) left irc: "sleep" [18:02] .. much faster than alt-tab seven times :P [18:02] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@unaffiliated/neo/x-596632) left irc: "leaving" [18:02] cuba (n=cuba@78-136-163-122.client.ufon.cz) left ##slackware. [18:02] that is expose :> [18:02] macavity, yep [18:02] slackytude: oh yes, but the short-cut for that one is useless.. ctrl-F11 i think [18:02] vdvluc (n=vdvluc@ip5657384e.direct-adsl.nl) joined ##slackware. [18:02] Ive got it on a special mouse button [18:03] real cool [18:03] this one works on windows, not desktops [18:03] oh [18:03] and it only shows the windows on the desktop you do it on.. per default that is [18:03] i *think* you can choose though [18:03] nah, expose is nice [18:03] nicer [18:03] the one effect Id truly miss [18:04] but hell.. we have only just begone to see what the KDE dudes can do with composite [18:04] Action: slackytude shrugs [18:04] compiz has had, what?, five hears ahead or somethign like that [18:04] Is expose what makes a thumbnail of all the windows come on the desktop at one time? [18:04] Ill probably go down the xfce + compiz route [18:04] mingdao, of all desktops [18:05] slackytude, I only have one desktop [18:05] I've done that accidentally a number of times, but don't even know what I did :) [18:05] O_o [18:05] whatever fits you best.. i must say, however, that KDE4 took more than just a little getting used to.. but now i wont miss it for the world [18:05] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [18:06] Okay, I see how that works. [18:06] My mouse must have been running away from something that wasn't a terminal. [18:06] actually [18:06] its called expo [18:06] Trying to kill a GUI app. [18:06] I had to "Alt+Shift+F12" to make it work. [18:06] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7k1l1xzI84&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo%2Egoogle%2Ecom%2Fvideosearch%3Fclient%3Dopera%26rls%3Den%26q%3Dcompiz%2520expose%26sourceid%3Dopera%26oe%3Dutf%2D8%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26ie%3DUTF%2D8%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Di&feature=player_embedded [18:07] slackytude: tinyurl? :P [18:07] at 0:54 secs or so [18:07] good grief, that's a long url. :P [18:07] cause it's a search [18:07] Action: slackytude nods [18:08] macavity, tinyurl ++ :P [18:08] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A774F6.dip.t-dialin.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [18:08] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A774F6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [18:08] bah [18:08] wb slackytude :) [18:08] :( [18:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7k1l1xzI84 works just as well [18:09] btw, i hope that KDE, XFCE and Compiz come up with a common interface for effects plugins [18:09] altho the dude is crazy with 16 workspaces [18:09] Wilblake (n=matheus@unaffiliated/wilblake) left irc: Client Quit [18:09] that would be very nice.. and save a shit load of duplicate work [18:09] znuzzy (n=mike@cpe-74-77-18-63.buffalo.res.rr.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:09] macavity, that would be wonderful. [18:09] v21.lscache5.c.youtube.com is taking too long [18:10] macavity, what's the chances that they will? :P [18:11] fire|bird: pretty good actually.. after the last "Desktop summit" on Gran Canaria they really managed to burry the hatchet and get a *lot* of cross DE/WM work going [18:11] e01 (n=OSCorp01@new-tech.ro-ni.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:11] macavity, awesome. [18:11] Action: slackytude likes prism [18:12] slackytude: uhm, the wifi chip vendor?!? [18:12] nah, the mozilla stuff [18:12] neuro_sys (n=neuro_sy@unaffiliated/neurosys/x-283974) joined ##slackware. [18:12] ah, ok.. i was about to start lecturing you with a pointy stick there :P [18:12] ALVAN (n=galaxy@unaffiliated/alvan) left irc: "Leaving" [18:14] mannynix (n=mannynix@200.92.185.126) left irc: "leaving" [18:17] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.151) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:17] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.151) joined ##slackware. [18:17] SnakePlisken (n=SnakePli@ip-209-39-149-91.dialup.ice.net) joined ##slackware. [18:18] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-24-23-240-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:18] many people with problems during win7 install [18:18] I wonder how that is gonna work out [18:19] It will be fixed in SP2 [18:19] ;) [18:19] heh [18:19] wow.. www.gnu.org has a video on its front page :-) [18:19] Seriously, W7 is looking to be the best M$ since DOS. [18:19] mingdao, yeah [18:19] I have win7 in a VBox vm, it works quite nice. [18:20] macavity, html5? [18:21] slackytude: i wouldnt know how to check.. but i suspect so, as flash is sure s hell out of the question ;-) [18:21] macavity, Stallman took one too many bong hits at least 20 years ago. [18:21] I used W7 on a Chinese guy's laptop a few weeks ago. [18:21] new firefox package woot. [18:21] mingdao: that doesn't change the fact that he is a great thinker in other areas [18:21] I was asking, "How you get Vista to run so well?" -- not even knowing it was W7 [18:22] mingdao: but as much as i agree with him politically, yes, i think he is a nut case in certain respects :P [18:22] macavity, He's anti-Slackware ... [18:22] He hasn't produced any work in a coon's age. [18:23] no, he is anti propietary software.. and slackware ships with some of that [18:23] So, he's anti distros that do that. [18:23] So, IMHO that makes him anti-Slackware. [18:23] s/distros/anything/ [18:23] i am against fire arms in private homes [18:23] Maybe not as much as I'm anti-Debian, Ubuntu, etc. [18:24] I'm for more firearms in homes. ;) [18:24] that could, or could not, make me "against you".. but seeing it that way is silly [18:24] but it isnt you-the-person that i have a problem with [18:24] Big ones, big enough to poke a hole in Obama's youth movement. [18:24] Think Adolph here. [18:24] korg815 (n=user@unaffiliated/korg815) joined ##slackware. [18:24] Stallman wants to make a religion out of a software license, the GNU/GPL is a great philosophy but a terrible religion [18:25] macavity, you're not against me ... no firearms in the home here [18:25] good for me that i lvie in a place that has so strict firearms laws, and that has had it for so long, that guns amongst criminals is very rare [18:25] And Stallam can be our God [18:25] Though I'd like some. [18:25] macavity, surly the police has firearms? [18:25] slackytude: you bet your ass they do :P [18:26] slackytude: big ones, with hollow point ammo [18:26] macavity, lots of armed criminals then [18:26] The criminals don't have guns here, but they kill and maim more people than where you are. ;) [18:26] slackytude: here the cops arent corrupt like in the US [18:26] superGear: you warship him then, ill be the atheist [18:26] of course not [18:26] slackytude: really.. we pay them a somewhat decent salarty [18:26] macavity, don't kid yourself. [18:27] bobJR (n=lulz@adsl-153-124-150.tys.bellsouth.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:27] Denmark has corrupt people just like every other country. [18:27] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: "Leaving" [18:27] Salary doesn't stop corruption. [18:27] geez [18:27] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [18:27] sure.. every contry does.. but the extend differes greatly from place to place [18:28] You've definitely bought the party line macavity. [18:28] wsp4th (i=wsp4th@208.88.85.160) left irc: Connection timed out [18:28] The gov't here is killing corrupt people with huge salaries every day. [18:28] Greed is never satisfied. [18:28] :P [18:28] InspectorCluseau (n=Inspecto@64.238.225.41) left irc: [18:28] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.151) left irc: "Leaving." [18:29] all i can say is: do some reseach [18:29] SlackNeo (n=SlackNeo@190.176.171.163) joined ##slackware. [18:29] thank god i'm not in China [18:29] we have been slipping a little over the last decade, but we have always had good standards in that area [18:29] They are evil people [18:29] superGear, you really should! [18:30] Evil people are everywhere. [18:30] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [18:30] Especially at GNU.org ;) [18:30] yall have a billion + evil people [18:30] mingdao: Alright, Im a gowd and i shall Slit their throats ? [18:30] More than that superGear [18:30] which contry do you think is the most corrupt wrt cops, Guatamala or Finland? [18:30] DONE! [18:30] mingdao, hence the + [18:31] china monkeys, duh [18:31] superGear, you should come visit with straterra [18:31] lol [18:31] gabriel_ (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:31] bah i have to reboot just to eject a cd :/ [18:31] China has no monkeys .... they ate them. [18:31] China has no cats or dogs [18:31] superGear, you running what OS? [18:31] slackware [18:31] superGear, China has TONS of cats and dogs. [18:32] Dog is the favorite edible meat. [18:32] superGear: are you a member of the plugdev group? [18:32] mingdao, plenty of food then [18:32] Ya! [18:32] superGear, why do you have to reboot to eject a CD? [18:32] macavity, yes, it's probably KDE4's fault [18:32] You forget eject in a term? [18:32] umount and eject as root in a term [18:32] ok [18:33] superGear: i doubt it.. if the perms are right, and you have hald/dbus running, it *whould* work [18:33] i forgot about eject :P [18:33] at least it does here [18:33] pushing button didn't work [18:33] Unless some Chinese hacker is in your box superGear [18:33] superGear, is it mounted? [18:33] i can even eject USB devices.. the jack doesnt plop out of the hole thought :P [18:34] superGear, su to root, issue mount, "umount /what/ever" ; eject [18:34] Then you can use the cup holder. [18:34] brb [18:34] macavity (n=charlott@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "leaving" [18:34] pushing the button doesnt work as long as its mounted [18:35] naw i got it with eject [18:35] SnakePlisken (n=SnakePli@ip-209-39-149-91.dialup.ice.net) left irc: "Quit" [18:35] Good on yah superGear [18:35] and it wasn't mounted as it was an audio cd :P [18:35] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) joined ##slackware. [18:35] eZ (n=eZ@200.169.162.250) left irc: "Lost terminal" [18:37] Richard Stallman: The Chinese government, for example, was found to have been spying on Skype conversations already, and they are probably not the only ones. [18:37] pupit (n=pupit@93.86.1.151) joined ##slackware. [18:37] They listen in on whatever protocol they desire, just like all the other governments. [18:37] He fried his noodles... [18:38] jkr (n=jkr@ti0017a380-0863.bb.online.no) joined ##slackware. [18:38] I stand behind my "There is nothing wrong with Stallman" statements! [18:39] ClaudioM (n=ClaudioM@c-76-108-13-112.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [18:40] There ain't no free lunch ... [18:40] Linux kernel got better when Linus et al got paid to code. [18:40] Money talks, Stallman walks. [18:40] .w escrow [18:41] Germany tried to spy as well but failed and became public [18:41] well, I say Germany altho it was Bavaria [18:41] its on wikileaks [18:41] eviljames: uhm "nothing wrong that we cant live with" is my like it :P [18:42] s/my/more/ [18:42] I still disagree. I _like_ stallman. [18:42] eviljames: so do i :-) [18:42] eviljames, fair enough ... [18:42] I don't care that he eats his toenails during interviews, or that he spouts off a lot of gibberish that gets mixed into his overall message. [18:42] Anyone here still have a Sony memorystick? [18:43] eviljames: i just happen to have observed him outright insult people for no apparent reason.. and just a few more words to the sentense would obviously have made his point just as clear, but non-obnoxius [18:43] macavity: The same can be said of Richard Dawkins, or anyone with a message to push. [18:43] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [18:43] or me ... [18:43] Maybe you? [18:43] eviljames: yes :-) [18:44] mingdao: need i remind you that the FSF actually *pays* people to code? [18:44] macavity: With an analogy, Neil DeGrasse Tyson asked Dawkins if he felt that the message he was trying to give out was being diluted by the fact that he is so barbed in his delivery. [18:44] see? [18:44] macavity: Dawkins replied with a quote from Alun Anderson: "Science is interesting, and if you don't like it you can fuck off." [18:44] ??? [18:44] Too many bong hits, I tell you. [18:45] I can't be sussed to Google Dawkins ... who is that? [18:45] Or these other names. [18:45] mingdao: the above was a response to "Money Talks, Stallman walks".. that is uncalled for, misinformed and just plain palying FUD with the term Free Software [18:45] mingdao: He's a bio-ethicist and a big name in the Atheism 'movement' or 'community' or whatever people want to call it. [18:45] We don't really care about patents and freedom in the PRC ... we just use the software and fix the borked code. [18:46] Richard Dawkins [18:46] Oh, Dawkins is the idiot who thinks nothing blew up and became everything. [18:46] Irreducibile Complexity [18:46] Enough said... [18:46] a main proponent of ID [18:46] gah I know way too much about that [18:46] I should have stayed away from thos 1000+ thread about evilution vs ID [18:47] Action: eviljames won't even engage that idiotic debate. [18:47] bobJR (n=bob@adsl-153-124-150.tys.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [18:47] mingdao, dawkins is right, it is the idea of god and religion that is an absurd delusion [18:47] RipVanWinkle: Don't bother, reality has no place in a debate with religion. [18:47] mingdao: i live in the EU, so i could give a rats ass about software patents too.. but my fellows in other contries happen to get severely bend over by them from time to time.. thus i fight them when i get the chance [18:47] iirc Dawkins has been shown to be wrong on many occasions [18:47] but its been sometime [18:48] slackytude, do you have a list of "things dawkin are wrong at"? [18:48] slackytude: and, of course, the bible is NEVER wrong [18:48] if its tha tmany times [18:48] [plz visit ##slackofftopic to continue debate] [18:48] both God and Science has been proven wrong many times ;-) [18:48] .. said the cat who has faith in God, yet adheres to no religion [18:49] there is no god, it is an idea cooked up to manipulate people for profit and for cannon fodder for various wars throughout history [18:49] missyjane, hrm, I think his argument that the eye coulndt have evolved has been pretty much shoot down. I cant remeber how strong he was on that issue. I would need to look it up [18:49] slackytude: The eye easily did evolve, the steps are pretty plain to show. [18:49] RipVanWinkle: i dont care if there is no God.. it gives me inner peace to pretend he does :P [18:50] eviljames, Dawkings used the eye as a example for irreducible complexity [18:50] iirc [18:50] Dawkins, the proponent of evolution, spoke in favour of irreducible complexity? [18:50] That's nonsense. [18:50] loool [18:50] oy [18:51] Anyone here still have a Sony memorystick? Got it to work in a Ricoh cardbus? [18:51] police in the front of a supermarket [18:51] mingdao: Do Sony even still make those? [18:51] what the fuck are they doing there [18:51] I don't know, but I have some ... and the driver just made it to the kernel. [18:51] mingdao: use the ricoh-mmc driver to disable it so it turns into a regular ohci-mmc device [18:51] right I totaly misplaced that, I meant Behe and Darwinds Black Box [18:52] I guess Stallman wasn't paying anyone to code it the last 10 years. [18:52] sry, thought that's the offtopic .. [18:52] macavity, how do? [18:52] modprobe ricoh-mmc [18:52] I already have that module [18:52] So do what with it? [18:52] Action: mingdao better ssh into that box [18:52] Thanks for helping macavity [18:53] in that case it is just you vs the sony gizzmo [18:53] yht (n=yht@125.161.60.156) joined ##slackware. [18:53] mingdao@jeremiah:~$ lsmod | grep ricoh [18:53] ricoh_mmc 4608 0 [18:53] man, good that I already wrote all of my exams this term [18:53] since now the ricoh thingie works just like any other ohci card reader [18:53] The card reader works fine for SD cards. [18:53] dmesg after you plug in the sony thing [18:53] Just the kernel never picks up the memorystick. [18:54] pgeek|| (i=pgeek@spark.ofloo.net) joined ##slackware. [18:54] I tail /var/log/messages and nothing. [18:54] Can you explain -> mingdao: use the ricoh-mmc driver to disable it so it turns into a regular ohci-mmc device [18:54] yes, if you dont load the ricoh-mmc driver you need some propietary crap to use the port at all [18:55] Sorry, I'm Chinese ... and not following you. [18:55] Do what with ricoh_mmc? [18:55] if you see the driver info it is a "disabling driver"... that makes the ricoh port work like an IEEE OHCI port [18:56] dont do anything.. just make sure it is loaded [18:56] So how to use the memory stick? [18:56] as for the sony thingie itself, google, as i dont know anything about it.. i just happen to have a ricoh cardbus myself, and it cought me with my pants down [18:57] The ricoh cardbus works fine. [18:57] but if dmesg doesnt even see that you plug it in, then you are probably having trouble [18:57] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:57] The memory stick is good in the camera, or in a USB card reader; but not in the builtin Ricoh card reader. [18:57] macavity ... [18:57] take it out, plug it in, dmesg | tail -n50 [18:58] pastebin that [18:58] Did you read what I posted? [18:58] yes [18:58] 06:57 I tail /var/log/messages and nothing. [18:58] i ask for dmesg, not /var/log/messages [18:58] http://pastebin.com/m29164b94 [18:59] That looks a lot like the information macavity was asking for :D [18:59] Action: eviljames ducks and runs [19:00] smart ass eviljames [19:00] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [19:00] mingdao: all day long! XD [19:01] and all night too :D [19:01] dchmelik (n=d@nat.wabroadband.com) joined ##slackware. [19:01] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) left irc: SendQ exceeded [19:02] smart ass [19:02] strange [19:02] mingdao@jeremiah:~$ less configs/memstick/ [19:02] devices.txt dmesg.txt lshal.txt udev.log xorg.conf.new [19:02] I got everything you could ever want to see about it. [19:03] There is a module in the kernel for it now ... experimental [19:03] Strange since these devices are over a decade old. [19:04] I guess nobody who could code wanted it used that way. [19:04] Well, go patch it. [19:04] or perhaps they didnt get their hands on the specs untill recently [19:04] It's obviously with ricoh_mmc, since it's detected other ways. [19:04] More likely: Nobody actually cared whether the device worked because nobody uses it. [19:04] Yeah, no doubt about that from Sony. [19:04] At least, nobody who works on or influences the kernel. [19:05] Probably that ^^^ [19:05] mingdao: what is the "vendor name" of the device? [19:05] Such is the lot for much hardware and Linux. [19:05] a1g (n=a1g@unaffiliated/a1g) joined ##slackware. [19:05] mingdao: I have precisely ZERO hardware that doesn't work with Linux. [19:06] same here [19:06] eviljames, come visit and I'll give you a suitcase of it to take home. [19:06] You don't have much hardware. [19:06] oh wait.. my Linksys has too little RAM to run DD/Open WRT [19:09] eviljames, excluding my craparse HP scanner that looks lame and unprofessional - all my other hardware works better on Linux than Windows :P [19:10] mingdao: I have wayy too much hardware as it is. Come over and we can trade suitcases full :D [19:10] I wonder... is it possible to use fakechroot to run 32-bit apps in a chroot? :P [19:10] macavity, I don't get a vendor name for the stick ... only what the stick is in ... ie camera, usb reader [19:11] NthDegree: or you can install slamd64's -current compat32 packages and run 32 bit apps w/o chroot [19:11] about the only place you can go wrong these days are cheap wireless cards and odd-ball digi cams [19:11] and webcams, I guess [19:11] eviljames, what compat32 packages? :O [19:11] eviljames, and I already have symlink magic for that [19:11] Use Chinese are scared of the Mounties eviljames [19:12] I installed a whole Slackware32 in a separate root and symlinked up :D [19:12] I rebult gcc and glibc with compat and don't chroot. ;) [19:12] gives me all the libs that a compat package would have, without the downsides :P [19:13] except being able to compile... :( [19:13] mingdao: why did you rebuild them? they support multilib out of the bo [19:13] box [19:13] unless gcc lets me make with -m32 [19:13] Action: NthDegree tests a theory [19:13] velusip (n=velusip@65.38.42.178) joined ##slackware. [19:13] gcc multilib [19:13] NthDegree: that seems like a lot more work than downloading and installing fred's packages. [19:14] eviljames, but gives me every possible lib unlike compat packages :P [19:14] true enough [19:15] theoretically (and what I suspect alien will do), is just taking stuff from slack32's packages (say, $PKG/usr/lib/*) and plopping them to /opt/32-bit_crap or similar [19:16] Don't bet on it thrice` [19:16] why? [19:16] thrice`, I installed with an alternative root to /opt/slackware32 :P [19:16] that's easy too :> [19:16] Then made a compat_lib32 symlink to slackware32/usr/lib [19:17] Then symlinked /usr/lib to /opt/compat_lib32 [19:17] hehe [19:17] and I merged lib and usr/lib inside of slackware32 since it's only an alternate root with 32-bit stuff in it ^_^ [19:17] gives me full compat for every possible 32-bit library included with slackware [19:18] mingdao: I susupect you will be proven wrong. it's really the easiest way to do things, and how slamd64 started [19:20] lordsimian (n=lordsimi@144.38.70.31) left irc: "leaving" [19:20] j0z (n=LINUX@unaffiliated/j0z) joined ##slackware. [19:22] mrpregnant (n=anon@p4FC746AB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:22] theblackbox (n=sammo@unaffiliated/theblackbox) left irc: "Leaving" [19:24] it should be wasy as hell to just write a script that extracts any files that should go in /lib or /usr/lib from the tar, and any symlink in either from doinst.sh [19:25] like compat-installpkg *txz :P [19:25] paissad-hp (n=paissad@18.138.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [19:26] macavity++ [19:26] perhaps i should write one and present it to Patrick ;-) [19:26] IMO, the only people who currently get multilib somewhat right are Red Hat (or Fedora) [19:26] gnubien (n=e@71.245.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) joined ##slackware. [19:26] Atleast with a script like that we'd have something simple that kicks RPM ass [19:27] how does fedora do it? I couldn't find 32-bit support when I tried fedora [19:27] macavity: I think one already exists [19:27] thrice`, anything that has .x86_64 can also have .i386 [19:27] oh, because of their build service? [19:27] You just change the extension you stick on the end, or you do with CentOS [19:27] thrice`, nah.. infact newer Fedora is phasing it out [19:27] if i were to do it, i would probaly just hack ld-linux.so [19:28] You used to have firefox.i386 but not anymore (now they just give nspluginwrapper) [19:28] but on CentOS if you ask for firefox.i386 you get the 32-bit version [19:28] that way we could call it /usr/lib/ on 64, and have /usr/lib32 for compate stuff, and it would work automatically [19:28] the FSF wont' like you for that ;) [19:28] and it's transparent because you can have for libraries both .i386 and .x86_64 [19:29] yht (n=yht@125.161.60.156) left irc: [19:29] just rig ld to set the .interp to ld-linux64.so.2 per default [19:30] then make ld-linux.so.2 check how it was invoked, and make it over ride the default ld.so.conf setting for compatibility mode [19:30] Sounds like an awful set of hacks. [19:31] ccfreak2k: i am like that all the way :P [19:31] ccfreak2k, which is what multilib is [19:31] JUST to get rid of the lib64 name :P [19:31] macavity++ ^^ [19:31] macavity: hey, lib64 is only around because of your silly FSF crap [19:31] O_O [19:31] say what? [19:32] URL? [19:32] to FSF standards? [19:32] FHS or FSF? [19:32] :P [19:32] mmmph [19:32] TLA standards? [19:32] FHs, sorry [19:33] Action: macavity tickles thrice` [19:33] they're all the same! [19:33] FHS is a crock :P [19:33] mingdao (i=nobody@unaffiliated/mingdao) left ##slackware ("We shall see what we shall see."). [19:33] you are going to get your legs pulled with this one for a LOOONG time brother ;-) [19:33] probably as long as you call DESTDIR on me :P [19:33] haha [19:33] or shall we call it even? [19:33] fair :) [19:34] tank-man (i=1000@174.6.38.217) left irc: "Gameover" [19:34] anyone else want to become a member of the ##slackware group named too-quick-to-fire? [19:34] call it [19:34] macavity: Haven't joined that club yet... don't hope to anytime soon! [19:35] eviljames: uhm.. what did rworkman ask you to test in that LQ.org post again? ;-) [19:35] you may facepalm now if you wish :P [19:36] lib64 is pretty good when you do multilib and you definitely do multilib more than you don't [19:36] I see no point in me using 64bit [19:37] faster screensavers! [19:37] macavity: i'LL FACEPALM WHEN I'M DAMN WELL READY [19:37] err caps... *facepalm* [19:37] (and encoding with x264) [19:37] lol :-) [19:37] i don't encode [19:37] Oh, and faster md5sums [19:37] thrice`: we have an heir to the throne :P [19:37] i don't encode anything [19:37] I can rip an h264 DVD in an hour on 64-bit [19:37] mrpregnant (n=anon@p4FC746AB.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "Leaving" [19:38] k, I'm out for a bit. [19:38] thrice`, thief [19:38] yay testing when I get home :P [19:38] eviljames, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO [19:38] eviljames: see you bro :-) [19:38] eviljames, DON'T LEAVE ME! [19:39] he left me alone with macavity ;_; [19:39] superGear: don't worry, we will still be here.. and we like you too *wink wink* [19:40] Action: Camarade_Tux waits for the channel in bed [19:40] you can all come :) [19:40] [ in bed ]? [19:40] no, [ in bed ], it's has to be big enough for the whole channel -_- [19:41] ok, this is the lamest way *ever* of checking if your burns are good [19:41] (it's actually 90cm wide but we'll be closer one to each other) [19:41] Camarade_Tux, that's 288 people. [19:41] M1ck_ (n=mick@81-64-34-22.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [19:42] fire|bird: nah: 283: not the three girls of the channel, not slackboy and not eviljames :) [19:42] a) burn orig.iso b) dd if=/dev/sr0 of=test.iso c) cmp -n $SIZE_OF_ORIG orig.iso test.iso [19:42] 287 people in group sex [19:42] where? [19:42] but then again, one can never be too carefull with ones slackware install media :P [19:42] if it's 3 meters wide, there will be 1cm for each one! [19:42] in Camarade_Tux's mind [19:42] hmmm ^^ [19:43] Camarade_Tux: during orgies like that people are supposed to stack up anyway :P [19:44] macavity: plus we can save some space by filling all the space available -_- [19:45] j0z (n=LINUX@unaffiliated/j0z) left irc: Connection timed out [19:46] Camarade_Tux: yup, but i think we need to use the new experimental DRILL2 interface :P [19:46] macavity: oh really? I didn't know that one? care to show me in depth how it works? [19:47] sure, just put your palms on the wall and spread your legs :P [19:47] systrik (n=systrik@chello080108163230.4.12.vie.surfer.at) left irc: "What the hell?" [19:48] macavity: done, I'm waiting for you :) [19:48] hey [19:48] that ya gay sex to #gay please [19:48] has anyone here ever created a linux from scratch? [19:48] missyjane: ah, you in on this? [19:48] Action: macavity showes missyjane up Camarade_Tux's corn hole [19:49] shoves* [19:49] missyjane: you're just aboyt time! [19:49] Camarade_Tux: see? she would *never* have fitted up there without the DRILL2 interface [19:49] win 18 [19:49] bah [19:49] missyjane is a he [19:49] macavity: right, it's wonderful [19:49] Camarade_Tux: in your dreams.. windows9 will be their last OS.. it will come out just 5 days before they go bankrupts [19:50] macavity: 18 is slack off-topic for me ;) [19:50] superGear, refer to NthDegree or Camarade_Tux, im sure they will tell you how im more manlier than you ;) [19:50] superGear: if he thinks he is a she then that is all fine with me [19:50] superGear: and if she is a she who you think is a he which makes her think the all hes should be shes then that is fine with me too [19:50] you mean he i think she is a he [19:50] anyone confused? [19:51] you? :D [19:51] me not, quite clear. [19:51] missyjane has a bigger penis than us all [19:51] i *always* haz teh confus! [19:51] heh! He, She? Does it really matter? :P [19:51] missyjane: pics or it did not happen [19:51] superGear, you'll always be the bigger cock - but missyjane will always be more manly :P [19:51] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A774B6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined ##slackware. [19:51] Action: NthDegree hides [19:51] how was it that quote from Alien 2 was? [19:52] lol xD [19:52] "you Vasques.. have you ever been mistaken for a man?"... "no.... have you?" [19:52] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) joined ##slackware. [19:52] missyjane: nope, no lfs for me, doesn't seem worth the trouble: ending with a distribution which isn't very stable, which is heavier than slackware, which is more annoying to maintain and which has some of the annoyances slackware has protected us from [19:52] slackytude2: right on time! [19:52] Camarade_Tux, how is it heavier than slackware? [19:52] and what annoyance? [19:52] missyjane: it won't be as clean [19:52] how so? [19:52] missyjane, it's a rolling-release distro ;-p [19:53] annoyances: policykit and friends (all those config systems using xml) [19:53] missyjane: and won't be as clean because it can't ;) [19:53] well time to reattempt lfs [19:53] Camarade_Tux: the general linux from scratch (if that's what you talk about) installation is about 300 mb unstripped [19:53] and no-one EVER wants to keep rebuilding crap to keep a consistent toolchain and such [19:53] pics missyjane i want a mugshot! [19:53] I heard from some systems smaller than 5 mb's [19:53] w000, oop silence [19:54] with webserver and so on [19:54] RipVanWinkle, id give you one, but then youd have to let me eat your chicken [19:54] akira42: but I get that with slackware too if I don't install d/ [19:54] RipVanWinkle, you can have my mug if you want - even strips for you ;-p [19:54] Action: NthDegree hides behind missyjane [19:54] i dont want a full nude, just a mugshot [19:55] missyjane isn't that big for NthDegree to hide behind [19:55] aask Camarade_Tux i gave him my nudes [19:55] Camarade_Tux: and lfs isn't really a distribution - it's simple an howto how to build a distribution from scratch [19:55] 5MB, I DO NOT believe that [19:55] is she? [19:55] akira42: yeah [19:55] Action: Camarade_Tux keeps missyjane's nudes for himself [19:55] aw [19:55] ok brb [19:56] Camarade_Tux: With further stripping, that can be brought down to 5 MB or less. (from http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/) [19:56] akira42, yeah im gonna do lfs soon [19:56] missyjane: already did it several times [19:57] akira42: my kernel alone is >2MB and it's a really light one [19:57] missyjane: prepare yourself that you'r first build will not work :) [19:57] akira42, really? do you have a phone number or anything? id like you to help me if i do run into a problem [19:57] akira42, its my third attempt [19:57] web_knows (n=riba@last.fm/user/web-knows) left irc: Connection timed out [19:57] missyjane: I have a jabber ID [19:57] phone number? [19:57] yeah phone, ill call him or webcam him, whatever he wants [19:58] kerplunk [19:58] akira42, i dont use jabber sorry, yahoo and aim hrer [19:58] here* [19:58] CLFS from IA32 to IA32 worked nicely for me last time i checked [19:58] .. havent use the regular LFS for a while [19:58] Phone number..for lfs support...that you got over irc.. [19:58] well, theres only 1-3 people in #lfs [19:58] and hardly anyone in the official channel [19:58] ugh ... phone ... my ability to speak english clear is not that good [19:58] missyjane: yes, give it to me [19:58] about 40 or so [19:58] I'm good at writing english, not speaking [19:58] akira42, hm... may i pm you? [19:58] sure [19:58] hrhrhrhr [19:59] its fine akira42 [19:59] does that strike anyone else as fucking retarded? [19:59] i will pm you the [19:59] Anyone at all? [19:59] straterra, not really, its much more personal and quicker [19:59] straterra: i just dont care [19:59] No no no..follow this logic [19:59] like personal tech support [19:59] straterra: define retarded [19:59] You're going to get supprot from someone..by getting their number over IRC [19:59] support^ [19:59] he might not be on irc all the time too [19:59] so i can call him when he isnt online [19:59] :) [20:00] Yeeeaaaahhh [20:00] it sure does come in handy with a nick that signals female gender... oh wait.. rworkman gave me his phone number too once, in case i ran into trouble [20:00] drijen (n=drijen@pool-71-96-2-151.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [20:01] straterra: so.. does that make rworkman and me retarded? [20:01] Action: macavity starts scratching his head [20:01] macavity, not really, he just hates me, so anything i do, no matter how good or even how bad, its retarded [20:01] you know what? you *almost* had me on that "this is retarded" train going on there :P [20:01] so youre safe [20:01] macavity: No..because thats a bit different [20:02] Neither of you are some random person..and one of you happens to be a slackware dev.. [20:02] straterra: because i dont [pretend to] have titties? [20:02] sigh [20:02] lol [20:02] nachox (n=Ignacio@190.51.51.123) joined ##slackware. [20:02] ok [20:02] If someone over IRC asked for my number for support..I'd..uh..say no [20:02] so youd say no, but others might say yes :) [20:02] missyjane: i used th [] to make sure i didnt pick either [20:02] you are not everybody [20:02] missyjane: you also.. [20:02] wtf [20:03] lol [20:03] k [20:03] gtfo [20:03] I'm not everyone..but..just.. [20:03] nachox: the popcorn is in the micro.. sit down and enjoy the soap/sitcom :P [20:03] SageX (n=sage@adsl-61-16-178.asm.bellsouth.net) joined ##slackware. [20:03] hi [20:03] hi. [20:03] thats fine, if you dont want to phone, webcam, etc, thats ok, never said you "must" [20:03] SageX, hello [20:03] ok i said would brb [20:03] brb [20:03] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:04] macavity, what's happened? [20:04] hi nacho! [20:04] hey nachox, how's it going? [20:04] drijen :) [20:04] nachox: you can read it on either slashdot or on noobfarm tommotow.. depending on how it unfolds ;-) [20:04] yes/ [20:04] ? [20:04] hey guys [20:05] macavity, lol, maybe even both. :P [20:05] macavity, i can easily get the channel logs i suppose [20:05] nachox: dont get up over it.. i was just making fun because the whole thing is half funny and half rediculous :P [20:06] paissad-hp (n=paissad@82.160.66-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] http://forums.utassault.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=24485&d=1248769775 [20:07] evil [20:07] I don't get whats so funny [20:07] I have this server in my basement and its been giving me issues 1st issue is dbus errors shortly after I installed linux and then it was unplugged by one of my younger siblings and now when I plugged a monitor and looked at the verbose boot and it reads I have some reiserfs erorr I also was a putty user in windows and I need help sshing into it [20:07] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [20:07] SageX, thats like 3 different issues. [20:07] yes [20:07] akira42: that is probably because you havent watched how straterra and missyjane always act like they have been married for 40 years :P [20:07] where would you like to start [20:07] SageX, unplugged while running I take it? [20:08] yes [20:08] dive [20:08] yes [20:08] SageX: a server in a basement? sounds like fritz. [20:08] SageX, in the future, don't use reiser, but you can run the reiserFS utilities from a slackware live cd [20:08] only good place for it now is probly in a cabnet locked up [20:08] well (some might disagree here but...) I wouldn't use reiser on a server [20:08] 'she was asking for it' - lulz [20:08] slackytude (n=slacky@p54A774F6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:08] Action: drijen would not use reiserfs period [20:09] yeah nor would I [20:09] hmm [20:09] your dbus errors are probably plugdev related [20:09] ext3 is the most supported fs [20:09] hmm [20:09] jfs has been a very good reiserfs substitute for me [20:09] macavity: ah, ok - that explains everything [20:09] Action: drijen has always liked jfs [20:09] although ext4 is awesome too [20:09] so how can we fix this [20:09] SageX, read above [20:10] Action: drijen goes back to movie [20:10] SageX, does it boot at all? [20:10] yes [20:10] can you get a prompt [20:10] umm [20:10] no [20:10] even from run level 1? [20:10] locks up when root can acces reiser drives [20:10] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt3-port-11.dial.telus.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [20:10] i agree with drijen.. boot it from the slackware CD and get an fsck running [20:10] tuvok302-a (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-96.dial.telus.net) joined ##slackware. [20:10] Nick change: tuvok302-a -> tuvok302 [20:10] no cd drives [20:10] macavity, long time no see! [20:11] all taken [20:11] SageX, USB? [20:11] SageX, can you ssh into it? (I doubt it) [20:11] usb boot [20:11] hmm [20:11] PXE boot? [20:11] drijen: yup :-) [20:11] the address is 192.168.168.69 [20:11] macavity, how have you been [20:11] lan only [20:11] I'm trying to think of ways you can get in and backup your data... [20:11] grr [20:11] drijen: bussy testing rworkman's latest packages for xorg [20:11] antiwire (n=antiwire@unaffiliated/antiwire) joined ##slackware. [20:12] before fixing the file system from a boot cd [20:12] dive, remove the drive, and hook it up somewhere else [20:12] hmm [20:12] a simple dd-rescue will do [20:12] macavity, ^ ^ [20:12] drijen: if you have Intel or ATI hardware (using the free driver), and a -current box, please test and repport :-) [20:12] hmmmm [20:12] macavity, i do not, sorry sir [20:12] damn :P [20:12] all nvidia here, and i use the closed driver for ati on my laptop [20:12] we have not had the level of feedback that i had hoped for [20:12] damn. [20:13] so I gues the box is dead no prompt [20:13] SageX, hardly [20:13] SageX, have you tried to boot with slackware cd and just see if any partitions can be mounted? [20:13] SageX, exactly what is the error [20:13] macavity, what would you like? [20:13] macavity, i don't know the first thing of how to go abuot testing that [20:13] there is no cd drive all ide cables and slots used [20:13] ah right [20:13] SageX, so use a USB distro [20:13] macavity: the glew/etc stuff he asked us to test the other day? [20:14] hmm [20:14] would puppy linux be a good fix [20:14] SageX, trinity would be my choice [20:14] or ubuntu live [20:14] no, puppylinux is a shiet [20:14] but you use what you like [20:14] trinity? never heard of that one [20:14] SageX, how many hdd's do you have plugged into it? Are they all giving errors? Can you take a good one out, put in a cd/dvd rom and boot with a slack dvd? [20:14] 4 [20:15] that was my personal and proffesional opinion [20:15] if I can ssh into [20:15] well it sounds like root fs is fscked [20:15] hmm [20:15] if you can't even get in in single use mode [20:15] user* [20:16] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:16] no [20:16] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:16] Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net) joined ##slackware. [20:16] drijen: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/testing-request-xorg-in-current-yes-again-742820/ [20:16] quasar: yes.. it is xorg-server-1.6.2 recompiled against Mesa-7.5 [20:16] drijen: just test on the radeon one.. see if it will play with the free driver, update to rworkmans packages, and check again [20:16] me and my friend when setting up the system disabled the options at boot [20:16] winds and storms [20:16] like the os logo [20:16] drijen: default kernel, default setup (no tweaks to xorg.conf, other than setting the driver, or just run without xorg.conf) [20:16] but if you swap a good drive for a cd/dvd boot with that and see if you can mount a bad partition to try save data off.. [20:16] drijen: see if composite works, and if glxgears misrenders [20:16] so after bios it just boots up -v [20:17] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [20:17] well you can't change bios boot options - that's not a problem is it? [20:17] but i gotta run now [20:17] worked fine for me (64-current with ATI) [20:17] no its not a bios problem its a os problem [20:17] see you tommorrow.. and dont foret to get everyone and their grand mother to test out those packages.. we are close to relase people.. all bugs must get hammered [20:18] Action: macavity bows to the fine community [20:18] Action: SageX lols at mactivty [20:18] macavity (n=macavity@2704ds5-abc.0.fullrate.dk) left irc: "...And remember kids: if it ain't broken, HIT IT AGAIN!" [20:18] macavity, i mean [20:18] whatev~ever [20:18] whatever [20:19] hmm [20:19] so this box is busted [20:19] well first thing I would try would be swap one hdd for cd/dvd, get in bios and set it boot from cd/dvd, boot with slackware dvd, see if I can mount the partition which has data you want to save, if it mounts copy data to usb hdd/stick whatever you have. [20:20] hmm [20:20] actually [20:20] If it doesn't mount then you will need to run a fsck on the partitions to try to fix them. [20:20] I dont realy need to do something like that [20:20] ? [20:21] I might just reinstall [20:21] with a different [20:21] os [20:21] well your choice [20:21] yea [20:21] well [20:21] thanks for the chit-chat [20:21] lol [20:22] Windows 7 is pretty nice, it's only an undisclosed amount of dollars too. [20:22] well yw anyway [20:23] and it's not an os problem, it's a fs problem ;-) [20:25] Action: drijen rolls eyes [20:26] Slackware is pretty nice, its only an undisclosed amount of FREE too. [20:26] hm [20:26] I was thinking it was a sibling problem.. I've threatened my siblings for touching my computers before.. much less unplugging the server [20:26] ok sorry i asked before but im gonna do it now [20:26] any recommendation for virtualization? [20:26] macavity, aye aye sir [20:26] missyjane, virtualbox or kvm [20:26] i need something like qemu [20:26] ok [20:26] which do you suggest? [20:26] qemu? :D [20:27] kvm [20:27] I for my own use qemu [20:27] my processor has no virtualization [20:27] akira42, thank you, kvm then, i wish to setup lfs via that [20:27] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: "Leaving" [20:28] missyjane: iirc, kvm is based on qemu - and qemu uses simple files als disks, so you could mount them and use them - If the system you build goes well, you could just copy the file with dd to an partition and boot real from it [20:29] akira42, sounds simple enough [20:29] missyjane: rez! [20:30] fs problem [20:30] hmm [20:30] missyjane: I would suggest to install the kqemu device - it really speeds up everything [20:30] (if you use qemu) [20:30] kvm doesn't have such a thing [20:30] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] i dont have qemu or anything like that installed [20:31] Catoptromancy (n=Cato@c-71-203-84-103.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:31] i cant seem to install kvm by itself? [20:31] drijen (n=drijen@pool-71-96-2-151.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Leaving"). [20:32] kvm does have such a thing that even works better than kqemu, kvm-intel or kvm-amd [20:32] missyjane: yes you can, why shouldn't you? [20:32] *couldn't [20:32] gtl (n=gustavo@189.4.125.77) joined ##slackware. [20:32] missyjane: what is your cpu? [20:32] it seems to suggest i need qemu - KVM also requires a modified QEMU although [20:32] work is underway to get the required changes upstream. [20:32] kqemu is actually not even around really anymore the developer is thinking of ditching it [20:32] Camarade_Tux, quad core 6600 [20:32] hi people [20:32] good :) [20:34] who has the best chip here? [20:34] greetings gtl, how are you? [20:35] good, thanks, and you? [20:35] gtl, doing great, thank you. :) [20:35] missyjane: think I gonna build a lfs-system again ... I thought about using the packagetools from the tukaani project and use the packages and boot scripts from slackware [20:36] I'll prob have to zero this lappy HDD tonight [20:36] still at class [20:36] kde4 broke real bad at work today [20:37] missyjane: please run following on your system and post the output: egrep '^flags.*(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo [20:37] gtl, what happened? [20:38] yay, i have a server closet :D [20:38] fire|bird, prob it's not kde4's fault, but system ran out of space on / [20:38] and cat6 wired to every part of the apartment :D [20:38] akira42, a lot of stuff come out [20:38] gtl, ouch, that sucks. :P [20:39] fire|bird: hi :D [20:39] missyjane: good, these are the flags your system supports [20:39] akira42: that is exactly why I don't do LFS, it probably ends up just to close to slackware to actually be worth the effort :) [20:39] fire|bird, yeah... [20:39] gtl, anything you could remove to get more space instead of having to start over? [20:39] akira42, yes :) [20:39] BP{k}: hehe [20:39] y0 acidchild, how's it going? [20:39] ok what is the command to get the ip addresses of lan computers [20:40] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [20:40] with only openbox, my system ran for hours with 96KB left on / (and my home was on /) : was running mplayer and was using firefox! [20:40] SageX: ifconfig(8) ? [20:40] missyjane: slackbuilds.org has a nice build for kvm, you should try it [20:40] man [20:40] fire|bird, i could prob try a work around, yes, [20:41] yes BP{k} [20:41] gtl, have a bunch of stuff in /tmp you could clear out? [20:41] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [20:41] fire|bird, /tmp won't get me so much space [20:41] my issues are both /opt and /usr [20:42] gtl, well, good luck. :) [20:42] hehe [20:42] fire|bird, thanks [20:42] /usr/share/locale eats quite a lot [20:43] Guest23392 (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left ##slackware. [20:43] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined ##slackware. [20:43] anyway, hidden folders in your home also take a lot of space ;) [20:43] thaednevol (n=edwin@186.28.199.40) joined ##slackware. [20:43] and I can finally go to bed! \o/ [20:43] rworkman (n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman) left irc: "leaving" [20:43] it's 3am here :) [20:44] Hi everybody.... [20:44] o.O [20:44] british people [20:44] SageX: uhm fail. [20:44] advertising their own clothing [20:44] Camarade_Tux: somewhere in Europe? [20:44] akira42, he's in France. [20:44] it's 2:45 am here [20:44] akira42: France ;) [20:44] euro ppl [20:44] hehe [20:44] < germany [20:44] :D [20:44] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@200.69.251.233) joined ##slackware. [20:44] is it here where I can find help for kernel panic? [20:44] Those Damn Colonials :) [20:44] gabriel (n=gabriel@pc-110-118-160-190.cm.vtr.net) joined ##slackware. [20:45] <- UK [20:45] amerikan <-- [20:45] thaednevol: depends: are you running slackware? [20:45] and soon in Germany for two weeks :) [20:45] <- between Britain and Lebanon [20:45] muaahahahahahahah [20:45] BP{k}: which part? [20:46] The monster of the pacific northwest RETURNS [20:46] eviljames: I just set my alarm-clock to midday for tomorrow :) [20:47] eviljames, returns? you left? :P [20:47] akira42: North West, around Meppel - Hasellune. We're flying into Bremen. [20:47] rworkman (n=rworkman@about/slackware/rworkman) joined ##slackware. [20:47] hi, Camarade...its a slack based distro....wifislax.... [20:47] errrr [20:48] m [20:48] (and me senses ndiswrapper) [20:48] -ENOSUPPORT [20:48] hm akira42 i just finished instlaling kvm, surprisingly fast to install, i also just put in the lfs cd haha [20:48] fire|bird: it was hard to do, to separate myself from irc.. but I did long enough to go home from work :P [20:49] lol [20:49] eviljames, wb then. :) [20:49] PenPerkInc (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [20:50] missyjane: you should use X, use the browser for the documentation and just copy+paste everything [20:50] missyjane: then nothing can go wrong :) [20:50] akira42, you make it sound too easy [20:50] missyjane: It's really easy, if you know what you do ^^ [20:51] you should always read what it says [20:51] definitely [20:51] i tried doing everything to the t and i still had some error, was a while ago [20:51] akira42: I am sure quantum mechanics is easy . if you know what to do. ;-) [20:51] I remember that I forgot to copy some files regarding to grub ... and the system don't boot [20:51] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: [20:51] were the stage_1.5 files [20:51] BP{k}: :P [20:52] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [20:52] oda (n=oda@unaffiliated/oda) left irc: "Leaving" [20:52] Operating System: Unsupported Windows 6.1 (Build #7100) [20:52] lol :) my point exactly BP{k} [20:53] quantum machanics are mind blowing... [20:53] endless... [20:53] acidchild, it is, they make the impossible possible [20:53] walkking through wall, cannot happen but with string theory specifically, it can happen given enough time [20:54] its a beautiful idea, sometimes thats good enough [20:54] it does have evidence btw [20:54] i kept up with the whole string theory its getting stronger [20:54] oh i know. [20:54] the whole "its not falsiable" is now falsiable [20:54] hey guys https://www.isc.org/node/474 [20:54] warning batman [20:54] gonna get blazed and watch Pi the movie tonight [20:55] acidchild: that is a real feel-good movie [20:55] nice. [20:55] i seen the trailer, the drum and bass made me excited [20:56] jonsmith1982 (n=jon@82-38-88-58.cable.ubr01.donc.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: "Leaving" [20:58] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) joined ##slackware. [21:00] no music theory people :( i see.. [21:03] ovnicraft (n=ovnicraf@190.154.240.58) joined ##slackware. [21:03] Action: eviljames watched Pi a long time ago, but never saw the trailer [21:03] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) left irc: "ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net" [21:04] gtl (n=gustavo@189.4.125.77) left irc: "Leaving" [21:04] Wescotte (n=WuzzleWa@75-9-90-101.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined ##slackware. [21:04] i better rent it [21:05] missyjane, you don't need string theory to tell you that you can walk through a wall, its defined by quantum tunneling, and its not specific at all to string theory [21:05] I couldn't begin to tell you what Pi was about - quite inebriated when I watched it. [21:05] in fact finding something that can be tested and is only defined by string theory is one of the key things that MUST be done to prove it [21:05] edman007, to be honest i have no idea, i just saw the great Elegant Universe and i was in awe after i finished watching it [21:05] fredoslack (n=fredosla@APoitiers-257-1-79-47.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: "Quitte" [21:06] on the related videos there is Coldplay - viva la vida. I'm pretty sure that's the song they're getting sued for plaigarising [21:06] missyjane, if you want some good stuff read up about stars (neutron stars are cool), its strange how quantum mechanics is most easily proven with stars much larger than our own [21:07] edman007, any ebook? [21:07] i just read the wiki, a lot [21:07] How about wave function break down and the slit experiment [21:08] hm ok i will read wiki about stars, i didnt know it was a good idea edman007 , thought the subject were not too related [21:08] the double slit experiment is neat. [21:08] edman007, so to your knowledge and experience, have they came out with any studies about.. anything supernatural? [21:08] but it also pretty much definitively proves that if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around it does and does not make a sound. [21:09] eviljames, hm.. can you expound on that? [21:09] missyjane, well the thing is as stars become larger the force keeping them from getting smaller changes, first its thermal, than the force of electrons trying to stay around the nucleus, and then they combine, and its just a ball of neutrons [21:09] wave function break down is when observation breaks down the way waves work and they start working as if they were multiple particle beams [21:10] k, i know the cartoon is a little cheezy, but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc is a good approximation. [21:10] is that the Dr. Quantum one? [21:10] yep [21:10] akira42, are you there? im a tad bit confused on how to get kvm to run [21:10] lol [21:10] yes I'am here [21:10] basically gravity is the only natural force to bring many of the rare quantum effects into common use [21:10] i saw that cartoon [21:10] so, did you create a file for use as a hd? [21:10] gravity is also the least understood force [21:11] a file? i havent created anything other than trying to find a document on how to use kvm [21:11] yeah, it is the natural tendancy for matter to attract to other matter.. [21:11] here's a good one from Feynman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU8PId_6xec [21:12] hehe, saw that one too [21:12] feyman is amazing [21:12] Cesarion76 (n=Miranda@200.69.251.233) left irc: "Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org" [21:12] I wish I could have met Carl Sagan and Richard Feynman [21:12] and then put them in the same room [21:12] missyjane: uhm ... not sure if kvm work's the same as qemu, but I can say you what I used [21:13] I want to meet Stephen Hawking. I gotta go to england... [21:13] eviljames: if you put all three of them into the same room the universe would unravel [21:14] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189.110.75.247) joined ##slackware. [21:14] hm ... can't find it anymore [21:14] damn it [21:15] waabimiigwan (n=steven@174-210-165-66.rev.knet.ca) left irc: "Leaving" [21:16] slak (n=slak@unaffiliated/slak) joined ##slackware. [21:17] missyjane: qemu -boot d -cdrom path/to/distro.iso [21:17] should work if you substitute kvm for qemu [21:17] can `ls {B,b,}arco.* ` output 'marco' ? [21:18] antiwire, :) indeed [21:18] akira42, i was hoping this didnt have to happen [21:18] -bash: qemu: command not found [21:18] i didnt want to install qemu [21:18] as i said, just type instead kvm [21:18] -bash: kvm: command not found [21:19] how is the binary called? [21:19] qemu-system-x86_64 [21:19] some bin for 32 bit guests too [21:19] don't ask. [21:19] uhm .. kay [21:19] lol [21:20] http://probablybadnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/ripapart.jpg [21:20] Agiofws (n=Agiofws@athedsl-422737.home.otenet.gr) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:20] missyjane: it's the same on your system? [21:20] phillipsm (n=matt@173-20-30-158.client.mchsi.com) left irc: Connection timed out [21:20] akira42, im very confused by what you are asking [21:21] how do you start kvm [21:21] no idea :) which is what im asking you [21:21] >.> [21:21] Pig_Pen (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:22] is there a usb boot avalible for slackware [21:22] uhm ... as I read it, you should be able to start it with 'kvm' [21:22] of course [21:23] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/v2374J91.html [21:23] there [21:23] my examples [21:23] for KVM [21:23] is there a usb boot avalible for slackware > [21:23] of course [21:23] and where would I find it [21:23] SageX: yes, look in usb-and-pxe-installers [21:23] http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/slackware-12.2/usb-and-pxe-installers/ [21:23] oh thanks [21:24] cryptic name, no? [21:24] akira42: use this to decode the options: qemu-system-x86_64 --help [21:24] also, make sure the kvm and kvm-intel or kvm-amd modules are loaded [21:24] antiwire, oh wow [21:24] that looks great [21:25] antiwire: I use qemu, missyjane uses kvm [21:25] akira42, nope, but i can do qemu-img, kidna strange [21:25] thaednevol (n=edwin@186.28.199.40) left ##slackware. [21:25] akira42: ok then [21:25] my processor has no support for virtualization :( [21:25] why doesnt it? [21:25] most modern processor should have support for virt [21:25] same here [21:25] what about a live cd image [21:26] depends on how you define modern [21:26] SageX: nope [21:26] for usb [21:26] whaat [21:26] all the cpu now in fact should support virt [21:26] SageX: there are a lot that are based on slackware [21:26] slackware isn't a "liveCD type distro [21:26] I'm still running an atlon xp [21:26] fff [21:26] yeah but some from just a year or 2 back don't [21:26] if you mean for installation purposes [21:26] Its a Celeron M, in my laptop [21:26] Guys, is Pat Volkerding still alive? ^_^ [21:26] just mainly fixing my server [21:26] SageX: slax is one based on slackware [21:27] i just made a IMAGE.raw [21:27] based on, meaning, very loosely, and having nothing to do with slackware [21:27] is it usb and live [21:27] NthDegree: I hope so :) [21:27] brb tornado ! [21:27] good luck [21:27] missyjane: good, now you should try the command antiwire showed [21:27] Someone heard the Slackware creator had died apparently - just checking xD [21:28] NthDegree: well, tell them they are an idiot [21:28] qemu-system-x86_64 \ i dont get this part, why \? [21:28] missyjane: \ is used for commands over several lines [21:29] it allows you to use the virt part of your cpu [21:29] the command is spread across multiple lines [21:29] just remove the '\'s and write everything in one line [21:29] it will run if pasted as is also. [21:29] oh [21:29] hold on [21:30] http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/lfs.html [21:30] looks great [21:30] never used this [21:31] a [21:35] SageX, do you not have a spare box you could put the drive in, install slack from cd and then return hdd to server? [21:35] hey [21:35] why would you enable -usbdevice tablet \? [21:35] for X and windows. [21:36] so the mouse cursor travels out of the kvm window without grab escape [21:36] oh [21:36] it's a setting that gives seamless transition of mouse [21:37] packeteer (n=zed@ppp122-57.static.internode.on.net) joined ##slackware. [21:37] dive, yea [21:38] usb route [21:38] no need [21:38] tuvok302 (n=vircuser@clgrtnt2-port-96.dial.telus.net) left irc: "Wakka Wakka" [21:38] ok [21:38] guys, i'm trying to get a xterm over ssh running, but i didn't install X originaly... what do I install to get it working? [21:39] eh? [21:39] haha wow, you can set the ram to 800? why not set it to 10000 to be on the safe side? [21:39] because I run multiple VMs at once [21:40] packeteer, if I got this right, you want to ssh into another box and run xterm on it? [21:40] yah [21:40] missyjane: iirc, it won't start if you have not enough free ram [21:40] remote x session over ssh [21:41] why would you need to run a terminal emulator? [21:42] over ssh? [21:42] so i can have a remote X session [21:42] the remote box is headless, but i can ssh to it [21:43] normally u "ssh -X " to the box and then run xterm [21:43] well you need to instal the X series, and then depending on which apps you want to run over ssh you will the right de libs [21:43] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-134-192.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:44] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:cf) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:44] the whole X series? [21:44] packeteer, yeah.. but you can only run commands in xterm, the same as you can do with ssh. [21:44] nah, it should tunnel any X app back through the tunnel [21:44] Jiraia (n=Jiraia@2001:5c0:1000:a:0:0:0:cf) joined ##slackware. [21:44] but yes to run an app you can 'ssh ' [21:45] :) [21:45] 1024 to be safe then [21:45] I'm not sure how much of X you will need but probably all the ones that say 'part of X11' or similar [21:46] perfect 1gb ram [21:48] WOOHOO IT WORKS [21:48] it works!! :D [21:48] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-134-192.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:49] this is amazing, its a whole new world [21:50] Action: missyjane dumps slackboy for lfsboy [21:50] sorry slackboy, its not you, its me [21:51] gtl (n=gustavo@189.114.201.102.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:51] and there we have it [21:52] slackytude2 (n=slacky@p54A774B6.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:52] hi all [21:52] hey gtl :) [21:52] hi gtl [21:52] hi fire|bird [21:52] hi dive [21:52] hey dive [21:52] fire|bird, ;) [21:54] HOLY COW [21:54] they are to some [21:54] dive, how's it going? [21:54] antiwire the resolution is BIG when i startx, bigger than my monitor! [21:54] hi gtl [21:54] missyjane: who is lfsboy? [21:54] missyjane, just don't what I once did and tried to close a vm with ctrl-alt-backspace ;-) [21:55] akira42, you are... [21:55] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-187-71.3g.claro.net.br) joined ##slackware. [21:55] fire|bird, great thanks, hows yourself? [21:55] is that the off-screen scrolling thing? xorgconfig has that option [21:55] dive ugh i did ctrl+alt+f1 [21:55] oh ... ^^ [21:55] akira42, lfsboy a joke [21:55] dive, doing great, thank you. Just upgraded irssi. [21:55] hey akira42 :) [21:55] fire|bird, yeah me too earlier [21:56] dive, the laptop ran for about a half hour straight earlier. :P [21:56] looking good so far _and_ it found an error in a script I've been working on [21:56] and then shut off? Is it the heat? [21:56] strange, startx isnt loading [21:56] looksl ike im watching channel 3 [21:56] so I've been using packages of bacon to talk to the souls of dead plants [21:57] They realy seem to hate being dead for some reason [21:57] dive, eh, I'm not so sure it's the heat anymore, this was when it was cool and it still was cool when it shut off. I get beep codes which have to do with 512k base memory, which could be ram, mobo, or other hardware. [21:57] so, going to sleep, allmost 4 am here ... gn8 folks [21:58] akira42 (n=tetsuo@dslb-088-073-194-167.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "leaving" [21:58] night akira42 [21:58] 4 am [21:58] lol [21:58] ty akira, good night [21:58] fire|bird, well I think I would open it up and give it a dust off [21:59] fire|bird, maybe do some ram swapping with the working one and see what happens [21:59] dive, yeah, will have to. I'm thinking it's hardware going bad, but that will get fixed soon if that is the case. It's gonna be a great laptop and will eventually be the home of slack64. :) [21:59] yeah, tried swapping the ram, no luck. [21:59] brb, guys, need to finish a report for work [22:00] fire|bird, working on a new theme - electron.theme [22:01] jiraia_ (n=jiraia@2001:5c0:1400:a:0:0:0:7d) joined ##slackware. [22:01] dive, nice [22:01] and made my first irssi script [22:01] missyjane: change the kvm vga driver to cirrus and configure X to use the cirus driver. [22:01] antiwire, actually to be honest, it just closes itself after loading [22:01] strange [22:01] kvm? [22:02] Chakravanti (n=dkwhit@in-67-236-111-170.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [22:02] i thought i was using qemu system :| [22:02] dive, I just found that opera can be used with bitlbee for IM's (yahoo, msn, etc.) [22:02] qemu-system-x86_64 is qemu version that is distributed with the KVM package. [22:03] fire|bird, bitlbee works in opera? [22:03] dive, yeah, I just found a page for how to do it. [22:04] I tend to use pidgin mostly [22:04] dive, http://my.opera.com/nicomen/blog/show.dml/175550 little old, but looks like it's still applicable. [22:04] The kernel comes with kvm and kvm-{intel|amd} modules. When you install the KVM package from SBo it gives you qemu-system-x86_64 which is the KVM project's qemu version that is setup to take advantage of the Kernel's modules. [22:07] https://www.isc.org/node/474 [22:07] antiwire, http://imagebin.org/57576 [22:07] juice: (2009-07-28 17:55:06) antiwire: hey guys https://www.isc.org/node/474 [22:07] fire|bird, I switched from opera to ff some time ago. Not sure if I want to use apart from web design testing.. [22:08] well it's important enough for another post :) [22:08] lol [22:08] juice: no one cared when I posted it either [22:08] sucks for them [22:08] hehe [22:08] dive, yeah, I've used opera since it was still using ads (7.x series) [22:09] antiwire, i see [22:09] dive, lately I've been trying out konqueror and FF 3.5, etc. but still really like opera. [22:09] i'm sure rworkman will get that updated tonight :) [22:09] fire|bird, opera is superior [22:09] fire|bird, feedback please :-) http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/irssi electron theme and png [22:09] missyjane, I wish they'd get better irc logging though. [22:09] fire|bird, the screenie is a little ld actually [22:09] dive, ok, will give it a try. [22:10] fire|bird: I'll upload some video I shot of it [22:10] Chakravanti (n=dkwhit@in-67-236-111-170.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined ##slackware. [22:10] later tonight [22:10] antiwire, cool. That airshow was awesome. It's unbelievable the maneuvers the F22 can perform. [22:11] too bad that is getting canceled the F22 program [22:11] fire|bird: I saw it fly at Pt. Mugu Naval base and he got too close on one of his passes [22:11] too bad that program got cut. F35 will take it's place (2016) [22:11] web_knows (n=riba@last.fm/user/web-knows) joined ##slackware. [22:11] It hurt the audience a little [22:11] antiwire, this one got close, that's how I got that picture. That thing is loud, it's got some power. [22:12] MadneX (n=Nestor@unaffiliated/madnex) joined ##slackware. [22:12] fire|bird, f-35 got axed too [22:12] fire|bird, there are some comments at top might be useful - it needs a utf9 terminal with a font like deja vu, bitstream vera sans mono, or terminus. [22:12] er s/utf9/utf8/ [22:12] ugh, it says "This can hurt your eyes". because its set at 800x600 @ 60hz, im not sure what to do :| [22:13] but then you said not to do ctrl+alt+backspace lol [22:13] echelon (i=echelon@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x2FEE914F) joined ##slackware. [22:13] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:13] It didn't get really close though, I was about a block, block and a half from the airport, it's like a zoo in the airport, and I think a little ways away is better, you get a better view of the entire show and the planes going every which way. It's better than having to be looking up into the sun all the time. [22:13] if you do that you will close X on the pc it's running on [22:14] missyjane (n=love@unaffiliated/missyjane) joined ##slackware. [22:14] huh? haha [22:14] juice, it did? [22:14] rofl >< [22:14] goddamnit i hit ctrl+alt+backspace [22:14] haha [22:14] told ya!! [22:14] hit ctrl+alt+2 and then type: sendkeys ctrl-alt-f2 and then hit enter. then type ctrl+alt+1 again [22:14] they are trying to cut the f-35 program too from what I read [22:14] not exactly how much or entirely [22:14] juice, dang, what's gonna be next then. :P [22:14] they're cutting everything. [22:14] It also won a big Senate vote against production of a second engine for alternative engines for the next-generation F-35 fighter that are being built by the General Electric Company and Rolls Royce. [22:14] errr [22:14] 2019- House Vote Caps F-35 Production at 800 [22:15] but then I read since then they are trying to veto something about it [22:15] god i dont know how much data i lost during that run [22:15] ugh [22:15] antiwire, I got video of the raptor and blue angels as well, but the quality when imported to the pc sucks, yet on the camcorder and on the tv with the camcorder connected, the video is just fine. [22:15] If you are in RL4 use ctrl+alt+2 and then type: sendkeys ctrl-alt-f6 and then hit enter. then type ctrl+alt+1 again [22:15] RL4? [22:16] runlevel 4 [22:16] ooooh 13rc1, nice [22:16] anyone know of an issue where rc.M stops processing after successfully running rc.mysql start ? [22:16] bah i dont even remember what runlevel im in [22:16] missyjane: happens to all of us sometimes =D [22:16] ctrl_alt+2 moves over to the qemu/kvm contorl console [22:17] then you can use sendkeys command to send key strokes. [22:17] then hit ctrl+alt+1 to go back to the guest OS [22:17] ahh [22:17] sec [22:18] btw this isnt a problem is it? open /dev/kvm: No such file or directory [22:18] yes [22:18] moving the rc.mysqld portion to the end of rc.M fixes it so that'll work for now [22:18] (2009-07-28 18:25:12) antiwire: also, make sure the kvm and kvm-intel or kvm-amd modules are loaded [22:18] if they are loaded, you have permission issues [22:18] how can i make sure the kvm-intel module is loaded? [22:18] missyjane, [22:18] i hear who -r tells you :) [22:18] lsmod | grep kvm [22:19] nothing coming up [22:19] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) left irc: Client Quit [22:19] ah RL3 [22:19] run-level 3 2009-07-27 21:32 last=S [22:19] quasar, do other scripts after rc.M get processed? [22:20] later [22:20] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:20] I only mentioned RL4 because i initially said to sendkeys ctrl-alt-f2 which does not exist in RL4 by default [22:20] If the system is in RL3 vt2 exists [22:20] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) joined ##slackware. [22:22] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) joined ##slackware. [22:23] slackaholic (i=1000@187-25-187-71.3g.claro.net.br) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:23] urgh, you know what sucks. doing something and then finding a flaw in your method after the fact. [22:23] sidmario (n=xxx@200-158-63-127.dsl.telesp.net.br) left irc: No route to host [22:23] dive: hang on, it's restarting now [22:23] quasar, you got any commands in rc.local? [22:23] ok so i typed sendkey and not sendkeys cause that doesnt exist, so "sendkey ctrl-alt-f2" [22:24] 3 rc scripts that I've made [22:24] yes, typo [22:24] and they run ok? [22:24] just type help [22:24] you'll see the commands [22:25] now that I've moved mysqld to the end of the file.. apache wasn't starting GPM wasn't starting, nothing after mysqld in the rc.M script was being processed for whatever reason.. I looked at rc.mysqld and nothing weird caught my eye [22:25] hmm [22:25] quasar: that's because the placement of daemons in rc.M matters [22:26] quasar: are you puttin a & after the commands to run them in the background? that sounds like what you might need [22:26] quasar: Is there are reason for touching the guts of rc.M? [22:26] should actually be sourced [22:26] that was my first time touching it, actually [22:26] not run with a & [22:26] gar0t0 (n=gar0t0@189.110.75.247) left irc: "RAH" [22:26] the only thing I've touched before tonight was the rc.local file [22:27] antiwire, ok thats fine but you basically just told me how to get out of it hm what should i have done to adjust the screen resolution that it wont hurt my eyes? [22:27] back [22:27] I told you [22:27] (2009-07-28 19:01:45) antiwire: missyjane: change the kvm vga driver to cirrus and configure X to use the cirus driver. [22:27] try that first [22:28] quasar: some daemons automatically go to the background, some do not, see which one in your rc.local is the last to load, and slap an ampersand on it, should fix you right up [22:28] err [22:28] a bigger issue if making sure you stop getting this warming though, which will be the root of a lot of issues /dev/kvm: No such file or directory [22:28] i changed the vga driver via the command [22:28] tablet -vga cirrus -boot d -m 1024 -cdrom / [22:28] if/is [22:28] like that [22:28] quasar, can you try something?: stop mysql with rc.mysqld stop, then run '/usr/bin/mysqld_safe --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysql/mysql.pid' and see if there is any output on terminal [22:28] ag3ntugly: if it's not running rc.local to begin with (or anything after rc.mysqld in the rc.M file at all) .. I dont think adding a & to rc.dovecot will change anything [22:28] if you are still seeing "/dev/kvm: No such file or directory" KVM isn't being used [22:29] hmm how can i make sure kvm is used? [22:29] oh i didnt know you were calling other rc scripts i thought you were directly starting things with rc.local [22:29] dive: one sec [22:29] again, are the modules loaded? [22:29] Action: ag3ntugly scrolls up [22:29] if not, load them and restart the VM [22:29] antiwire, >< haha how can i load them or make sure they are loaded? that was the thing thats getting to me [22:30] modprobe kvm-intel if you are on an intel cpu [22:30] missyjane, modprobe kvm && modprobe kvm-intel [22:30] meh [22:30] kvm will load automatically if kvm-{intel|amd} are loaded [22:30] ah right [22:30] dive: nothing out of the norm (logging and starting daemon with databases lines) [22:31] ok [22:31] after that, completely stop the VM, not reboot [22:31] you need to restart kvm's qemu now [22:31] watch while it loads, if you see any messages about /dev/kvm there is an issue. [22:31] quasar, what is the mysql startup in rc.M? [22:31] *startup line [22:31] kvm shows nothing but intel shows this [22:31] FATAL: Error inserting kvm_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.24.5-smp/extra/kvm-intel.ko): Operation not supported [22:32] lol [22:32] gg [22:32] i guess i have to edit kernel to load that [22:32] :| [22:32] no [22:32] 2.6.24.5? [22:32] good lord. [22:32] slackware 12.1 [22:32] quasar: will you pastebin your rc.M [22:32] ? [22:32] i never touched the kernel so no idea what kernel it came with [22:32] CcSsNET (n=user@c-98-216-161-213.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [22:32] dive: if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld ] ; then \n . /etc/rc.d/rc.mysqld start \n fi [22:33] ok that seems good [22:33] since 2.6.24.5 there have been epic changes in KVM [22:33] I wouldn't even try using 2.6.24* at this point for KVM [22:33] XGizzmo (n=XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) left irc: "leaving" [22:33] XGizzmo (n=XGizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) joined ##slackware. [22:34] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:34] test34 (n=alexb@unaffiliated/test34) joined ##slackware. [22:35] quasar, that's a strange problem.. but you say that your custom rc scripts are running fine from rc.local now? [22:35] yeah [22:35] by the way do you source them or run them? [22:36] aka the same way that happens in rc.M [22:36] run using the same +x check [22:36] and . /etc/rc.d/rc.whatever ? [22:36] yeah [22:36] ok [22:37] blah [22:37] any suggestion then antiwire? :) [22:37] well I'm stumped on that, but I guess it is running.. [22:37] nope [22:37] I run the bleeding edge kvm stuff so I can test it [22:37] missyjane, you can try the kqemu slackbuild [22:38] qemu runs quite fast with it [22:39] Action: missyjane starts to stab slackboy [22:39] this is all your fault [22:39] in one channel I had some time ago I had a command to make the bot talk, that was quite amusing at times ;-) [22:40] antiwire: did you get your issue fixed? [22:40] agentc0re: Nope, I can't test it right now either since that system is under load [22:42] hope kqemu works [22:42] hitest (n=George@7conn226.rupert.net) left irc: "Leaving" [22:42] missyjane, are you using the slackbuild for qemu from SBo? [22:43] why wouldn't she? [22:43] dive yes [22:43] Thom1 (n=Thom1@51.233.84-79.rev.gaoland.net) joined ##slackware. [22:43] of course, 99% of the stuff on here is isntalled with SB0 [22:43] hi [22:43] ok then that version of kqemu should work with the version of qemu [22:43] echelon: That is a valid question, either way. [22:44] Many people spray software all over their systems. [22:44] sounds unhygienic [22:44] fire|bird (n=silvergo@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "Leaving" [22:44] the thing is there were some version conflicts between qemu version and kqemu, so I wanted to check that they were both from the same source is all. [22:44] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [22:45] dive: alright, using electron now. :) [22:45] fire|bird, ok [22:45] thanks for beta testing ;-) [22:45] looks good so far. I like it. [22:46] dive: yw. :) [22:46] I just took this one http://i29.tinypic.com/anf2c5.png [22:47] Anybody know of any other app to import video from a camcorder via firewire aside from kino and lives? [22:47] wont mount like a removable storage device? [22:47] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [22:49] RipVanWinkle: no, it uses miniDV tapes and I have to record it into the computer by pressing play on the camcorder and record in whatever program, the quality in kino and lives once it's recorded, well, sucks. I've messed with the settings a bit with no luck so far. [22:49] ah, i see [22:49] Many people spray software all over their systems. <-- rofl.. that had me laughing [22:49] fire|bird: have you tried something like 'cat /dev/whatever > file.mpg' ? [22:49] what toolbar is that antiwire? [22:50] in fact that doesnt even look like kde, that looks amazing, what is it? [22:50] can mplayer rip a stream? [22:50] that's kde4 on the guest and host [22:50] holy... shit [22:50] that looks amazing [22:50] Hermann (n=Hermannn@h-156-174.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [22:50] it does look good [22:50] there is also an app called streamripper [22:50] can't wait for it tbh [22:50] well I can wait [22:50] twolf: no I haven't. It'd be /dev/raw1394, but in this case, I'm not sure that'd work. Over firewire though, I am able to control the camcorder's play, pause, etc. [22:51] got it on one box but the two proddies won't get it until 13 its out [22:51] RipVanWinkle: I think mplayer can rip a stream, I know vlc can, but I tried vlc and it didn't work at all. [22:51] gm152 (n=gm@d216-121-141-162.home3.cgocable.net) left irc: "Lost terminal" [22:51] gnubien (n=e@unaffiliated/gnubien) left irc: "leaving" [22:52] fire|bird: it has worked for me with other video devices, I would just play it like you said and cat it to a file, worked perfectly [22:52] dive: I really like the symbols used for joins and parts/quits. [22:52] twolf: I'll give that a shot, thank you. [22:52] yeah I found a file with loads of symbols in [22:52] dive any guidance or guide on getting kqemu running? [22:53] modprobe kqemu [22:53] _cjo_ (n=601e839c@baconfile.com) joined ##slackware. [22:53] nada [22:53] error? [22:53] no error, nothing shows up [22:53] bash-3.1# modprobe kqemu [22:53] bash-3.1# [22:53] lsmod | grep kq [22:54] dive: personally, and this is just me, but I think the color of the nick of someone who says your nick could be a different, brigher, more stand out color, but that's just me. :P [22:54] kqemu 126756 0 [22:54] missyjane, then it's loaded. What is output of 'ls -l /dev/kqmeu'? [22:55] er [22:55] kqemu [22:55] crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 61 2009-07-28 22:53 /dev/kqemu [22:56] right now you need permissions to use it. You could set it in a group that you are part of, or try running the qemu command as root. [22:57] I use root because I need port redirection, but it's really up to you. [22:57] i dont mind using su to set this whole thing to run [22:57] and I'm not sure which group to use anyway for vm's... [22:57] _cjo_ (n=601e839c@baconfile.com) left irc: Client Quit [22:58] but even in root im not sure what im supposed to do [22:58] hm [22:59] use the same command you used before to start qemu, but add to it '-kernel-kqemu' [22:59] [22:59] twolf: alright, here goes. :P [22:59] good luck :-) [22:59] thanks [23:00] fire|bird, what colour is the nick of someone who says your nick? [23:00] bah where can i learn more about this? [23:00] qemu: could not load kernel '-kqemu' [23:00] it's bold white here but you may have differnt hilights set [23:00] laters, sleepytime [23:00] dive: for me anyway here, it's like a peach color. I'm using a nick color script though, so that's probably affecting it. [23:00] RipVanWinkle (n=anyuser@72-24-139-79.cpe.cableone.net) left irc: "leaving" [23:01] dive: ah, white, that would be perfect. I'll try disabling that script. [23:01] missyjane, there is no space between -kernel and -kqemu it's one word -kernel-kqemu [23:01] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:01] ok, that's disabled. Someone try saying my nick, please? [23:02] OH [23:02] Action: missyjane slaps self [23:02] fire|bird, prrrrt [23:02] Hmm, nope, still peach. [23:02] what is /set hilight_color? [23:02] qemu-system-x86_64: invalid option -- '-kernel-kqemu [23:02] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [23:02] hmm [23:02] dive: %Y [23:03] missyjane, try it without that line then [23:03] rinaldi (n=chatzill@h35.239.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:03] fire|bird, %Y is bright yellow [23:03] change it to %W [23:03] ok, thanks. [23:03] /set hilight_color %W [23:03] alright, say my nick someone, please? [23:04] fire|bird|silver|gold [23:04] :P [23:04] well [23:04] missyjane, did it give any error when you start qemu about not being able to load kernel module? [23:04] hahaha [23:04] fire|bird: [23:04] fire|bird, double prrrrrt [23:04] nope, still peach. Let me quit and try. sec. [23:04] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "leaving" [23:04] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [23:04] open /dev/kvm: No such file or directory Could not initialize KVM, will disable KVM support [23:04] Motoko-chan (n=maoyama@pool-173-51-68-122.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:04] fire|bird: Peach is your favorite color though. [23:04] slacks (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) joined ##slackware. [23:05] missyjane, still got that link to the command that was pastebinned? [23:05] agentc0re: not since I found out it was yours. :P [23:05] yes i do [23:05] sec [23:05] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/v2374J91.html [23:05] bah, that script loaded again, sec. [23:05] |Slacker| (n=tanis@189.34.113.92) left irc: Nick collision from services. [23:05] fire|peach, don't forget to /save before you /quit [23:05] Well what guy wouldn't like anything that's pink and fussy? ;) [23:05] haha [23:05] fire|peach [23:05] HAHA [23:06] agentc0re, lol jeez [23:06] Nick change: slacks -> |Slacker| [23:06] agentc0re: hahahaha [23:06] john_dee (n=id@93-81-136-184.broadband.corbina.ru) left irc: No route to host [23:06] try my nick again, please? [23:06] fire|bird: peach ftw! [23:06] argh [23:06] i win! [23:07] agentc0re: fwiw, your nick is pink. :D [23:07] Lab_Rat (n=lab_rat@c-24-23-240-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined ##slackware. [23:07] \0/ [23:07] dive: wait, that isn't right, nobodies nick should be pink. [23:07] fire|bird, also. [23:07] pink and peach, :P [23:07] \o/ [23:07] fire|bird: lol, did you set a special color just for me? [23:07] check /hilight for any hilights you have set [23:07] agentc0re: yeah, black so I wouldn't see you in the first place. :P [23:08] fire|bird, I stopped using nickcolor some time ago [23:08] fire|bird: this is why you should use pidgin :P [23:08] prefer theme colours now [23:08] ouch.. that's worse than ignore. [23:08] dive: I've been using wu_nickcolor [23:08] this problem is a lot harder than i anticipated [23:08] agentc0re: I have been, but dive has a new theme and I want to test it out. [23:08] agentc0re: I'd be using opera's irc if they'd friggen get better logging. [23:09] missyjane, can't find link? [23:09] http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/v2374J91.html [23:09] Argh, I have /hilight set for fire|bird twice. [23:09] lol [23:09] how do I remove a hilight? [23:10] dd the line? [23:10] agentc0re: opera's irc client's wonderfully logging plan atm is File --> Save. :/ [23:10] missyjane, crap it's qemu-system-x86_64.. [23:10] s/wonderfully/wonderful/ [23:11] ya [23:11] :o [23:11] missyjane, try just qemu [23:11] will it run? [23:11] JUST qemu? i get command not rfound [23:11] fire|bird: why do you want to keep a log? there's one online for each day. [23:11] agentc0re: true, good point. [23:11] well I'm not whole familiar with qemu-system-x86_64 just the regular qemu.. [23:11] agentc0re: I could always make a script that downloads the logs I need if I need them. :D [23:12] fire|bird: And you make my name the same color as your background! How many other good points do you think you've missed? ;) [23:12] agentc0re: and, I just found out how I can use bitlbee with opera for IM. :D [23:12] agentc0re: hahaha [23:12] missyjane, is there a qemu-system-x86 ? [23:12] pink and peach, this is ridiculous, what did I do. :P [23:12] qemu-img qemu-nbd qemu-system-x86_64 [23:12] i have these three [23:12] MS3FGX (n=MS3FGX@pool-173-71-95-82.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:13] :/ [23:13] fire|bird: you installed the pretty princess theme. [23:14] agentc0re: dang it, I thought I uninstalled that. [23:15] alright, there, I removed all my autostarting scripts. brb [23:15] lol >< damnit [23:15] i installed two thing sfor nothing [23:15] missyjane: congratulations. :P [23:15] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) left irc: "leaving" [23:15] lol [23:15] fire|bird (n=fire|bir@unaffiliated/silvergold) joined ##slackware. [23:15] fire|bird: fixed? [23:15] :( No [23:16] missyjane, link to the qemu slackbuild please? [23:16] i know how to fix it.. slackpkg uninstall irssi [23:16] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) got netsplit. [23:16] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) got netsplit. [23:16] sure [23:16] fire|bird, why do you keep quitting? [23:17] /dehilight fire|bird [23:17] dive: trying to adjust things to get the colors right. [23:17] well you don't need to quit/restart [23:17] BAH i made a mistake [23:17] rworkman: thank you [23:17] a huge mistake [23:17] i installed 12.2s kqemu [23:17] irssi is like linux [23:17] yes [23:17] dive: yeah, I know, but I disabled all scripts from autostarting. [23:17] ah [23:18] ok then ;p [23:18] you dont have to quit irssi to disable them [23:18] just /script unload [23:18] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:18] wait, when rworkman said "/dehilight fire|bird" his nick was white. [23:19] ilj (n=ilj@sourcemage/grimoire/apprentice/ilj) joined ##slackware. [23:19] fire|bird, [23:19] the other nicks should be cyan [23:19] and your and someone who says your nick white [23:21] dive: my nick is white when I say something. [23:21] ok that's by design [23:21] fire|bird, and mine now? [23:21] dive: a peachy color. [23:22] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) got lost in the net-split. [23:22] XGizzmo_ (n=gizzmo@ampache/staff/XGizzmo) got lost in the net-split. [23:22] sec, making an ss. [23:22] fire|bird, which terminal? [23:22] ikaiyu (n=ikaiyu@matsti.com) joined ##slackware. [23:22] dive: yakuake [23:22] dive: http://imagebin.org/57582 [23:22] perhaps the terminal colours? [23:23] Nick change: ikaiyu -> Guest34745 [23:23] fire|bird, those colours are seriously _wrong_ [23:23] dive: agreed. [23:23] nicks should be cyan [23:24] except your own and when some says your nick [23:24] dive: what terminal are you using? [23:24] look at your yakuake colour settings [23:24] xfce terminal [23:24] with F11 [23:25] xfce terminal + f11 > yakuake [23:25] brb [23:25] ok [23:25] Something is bad wrong there. Xfce terminal here is fine. [23:25] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [23:25] I'll try xfce terminal [23:25] BAH!! nothing for 12.1, i suspect im doomed [23:25] screen -D -RR :D [23:25] Disable that damn scrollbar and F11 makes it appear to be a real console :) [23:26] Ugh, xfce terminal transparency looks aweful right now. [23:26] obnauticus (n=obnautic@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) left irc: [23:26] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) left irc: Client Quit [23:26] Kumool (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-69-137.prtc.net) joined ##slackware. [23:26] there, solid black bg. [23:27] someone say my nick please? [23:27] missyjane, got a link to the qemu slackbuild please? [23:27] fire|bird, smells [23:27] same colors. :( [23:27] sorry typo [23:27] irssi config messed up? [23:28] hrm speaking of irssi [23:28] something ain't right. It should look more or less like electron.png: http://www.unrealize.co.uk/scripts/irssi [23:28] been looking for this and missing it.. [23:28] need chanserv,nickserv whatever info to hit my status window. [23:28] been having a bitch of time gettig it going [23:29] Dominian, you mean when you /msg nickserv etc? [23:29] yes im stupid [23:29] i ended up using http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/kqemu/ [23:29] dive: aye [23:29] thats the link dive [23:29] I've never separated it out before so I'm trying to figure it out lol [23:29] Starchaser (n=iron@host89-251-107-28.hnet.ru) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:29] rworkman: alright, scrollbar disabled here. :P [23:29] missyjane, no... the link to Qemu that whoever gave it you earlier gave you [23:30] F11, :O, that's nice. [23:30] especially with menubar disabled. [23:30] fire|bird: also note that transparency is a bit heavy (resource wise) in xfce terminal. I prefer a black background anyway [23:30] Plazma (n=Plazma@freenode/staff/Plazma) joined ##slackware. [23:30] Plazma: :P [23:30] There's a new terminal release (0.4.0) that I'm trying to get Pat to push to -current; it seems a bit less heavy on resources, especially when scrolling, here [23:30] Dominian, everything under control? [23:31] rworkman: yeah, black bg looks much better in this case, especially with this theme. [23:31] Plazma: yeah.. dunno what that was all about, everything is fine in here. I'm in here 24/7 [23:31] Plazma: nope, it's wild in here. [23:31] well except rworkman [23:31] he's always causing trouble ;) [23:31] Those worthless chan ops are, well, worthless. [23:31] k... [23:31] yeah especially that rworkman guy! [23:31] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-71-254-124-94.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) joined ##slackware. [23:32] what? since when do you guys get out of control? [23:32] heh [23:32] Action: BP{k} starts a riot. [23:32] Did someone complain? (seriously) [23:32] no no.. [23:32] ah, ok [23:32] eviljames: when you're not around. ;) [23:32] Dominian, those messages you get back from nickserv are actually notices [23:32] hr yeh I know [23:32] Plazma (n=Plazma@freenode/staff/Plazma) left ##slackware ("Yargh!"). [23:32] dive: I have /window status ALL set in my "immortal" window [23:33] Well, that was odd. I wonder what prompted him to pop his head in? [23:33] so you need to somehow disable notices in nickserv window too [23:33] dive this? http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/p/v2374J91.html [23:33] dive: do you use the adv_windowlist script? For me anyway, with black bg and xfce terminal, the channels (dark blue) are a bit hard to read, imo. [23:33] sahko (n=grbzks@pdpc/supporter/active/grbzks) joined ##slackware. [23:33] dive: well the nickserv/chanserv stuff ends up in its own window [23:33] DeeeeP_ (n=ngomes@bl8-64-178.dsl.telepac.pt) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:34] Dominian, it would cause usually a pm/query starts a new window, but how to fix your problem I don't know [23:34] ok [23:34] more googleing for me! [23:34] and /j #irssi? [23:35] hehe maybe [23:35] that might be a good idea :P [23:35] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@97-117-110-216.slkc.qwest.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:35] but when a staffer shows up they usually think someone is in trouble :( [23:35] oh yes by the way if anyone missed it before - irssi 0.8.14 released a few hous ago [23:35] DeeeeP_ (n=ngomes@bl4-165-241.dsl.telepac.pt) joined ##slackware. [23:35] oh? [23:36] yep [23:36] rworkman, pleasess can we haz it in -current? [23:36] I've got that (hopefully) queued already. [23:36] \o/ [23:36] fire|bird, yeah I use awl.. the dark blue I know is a bit hard [23:36] danc3 (n=danc3@ip70-187-50-46.pn.at.cox.net) left irc: "There had better be some beer left when I get back!" [23:36] well, not _too_bad here [23:36] agentc0re (n=agentc0r@174-23-122-77.slkc.qwest.net) joined ##slackware. [23:36] eviljames: http://imagebin.org/57576 <-- pic I took of the Raptor at the airshow. [23:37] wb agentc0re :) [23:38] making backup of data is VERY boring [23:39] Dominian, maybe window_check_level_first might help on that.. google it see what comes up [23:39] dive: that.. put everything in the status window [23:39] I didn't say /set it... [23:40] dive is there any easier way to do this? [23:40] what am i doing wrong? [23:40] toytoy (n=dindin@unaffiliated/toytoy) joined ##slackware. [23:40] missyjane, will you please please give me the link to the qemu-system-x86-64 slackbuild [23:40] then I might be able to tell you [23:41] haha, I guess bitlbee doesn't like /nick, I got: The hand of the deity is upon thee, thy nick may not change [23:41] but that kqemu was yes for 12.2 and afaik for 32 bit only [23:41] dive i didnt install qemu i think it came with it [23:41] missyjane, came with what? kvm? [23:42] hm sorry [23:42] http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.1/misc/kvm/ [23:42] WildWizard (n=WildWiza@ppp118-208-50-192.lns4.bne1.internode.on.net) left irc: "Leaving." [23:42] ok [23:42] john_dee (n=id@93-81-136-184.broadband.corbina.ru) joined ##slackware. [23:42] eviljames (n=james@96.49.81.107) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:43] Lufbery_jaa (n=Drew@pool-71-254-124-94.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) left ##slackware ("Killed buffer"). [23:43] PenPerk (n=carlj@static-71-246-216-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:44] missyjane, this is for 12.2 but the 12.1 version doesn't have a corresponding kqemu: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/qemu/ [23:44] it might build and work [23:45] this bloody HP 6500 is a bitch to make work with hplip [23:45] LopLiii (n=Loor@202.152.243.90) joined ##slackware. [23:45] LopLiii (n=Loor@202.152.243.90) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:45] well whats the worst that can happen if i build it? [23:46] the build will fail, or it won't run [23:46] your hair may fall out [23:46] Action: missyjane grabs her hair [23:46] ok [23:46] going to build and install now [23:46] im certainly surprised at how difficult it is to get this running [23:47] missyjane, yeah ... 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[23:50] dive: last stable was in '08 [23:50] missyjane, it said 'operation not supported' which suggests that your cpu doesn't have virtualisation extensions [23:51] fire|bird, :( ) [23:51] oh 08? I read that as 88 [23:51] stupid fint [23:51] font [23:51] lol [23:51] I'm using terminus [23:51] not yours mine [23:51] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) left irc: [23:52] dive its a 6600 quad core.. :| how can it not [23:52] yeah, I was just saying what font I was using. :P yeah, September of 2008 [23:52] and how come my laptop can? [23:52] if you use bitsteam vera sans mono or deja vu those channels will show up better [23:52] nathanbw (n=nathan@c-71-59-8-47.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) left irc: "Leaving" [23:52] superGear (n=supergea@65.90.133.252) joined ##slackware. [23:52] missyjane: you're laptop's special? :P [23:52] dive: Hmm, ok. [23:52] missyjane, I've no idea :'( [23:52] T_T [23:53] I find terminus a bit 'thin' [23:54] lol [23:57] dive: that does look better. [23:57] but colours still wrong? [23:57] I wish I knew why everyone was pink though. :/ I'm not though. :P [23:57] yeah, still wrong. [23:57] might have to start over with a new irssi config. :P [23:57] AbsTradELic (n=vldmr@unaffiliated/abstradelic) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:57] colours aren't in there [23:58] what else would it be? [23:58] s/would/could/ [23:58] have you ever set colours in .Xdefaults? (not that terminal should use it) or in .bashrc? [23:58] mrselfpwn (n=nemesis@unaffiliated/projectchild) joined ##slackware. [23:59] hello [23:59] morning mrselfpwn [23:59] morning [23:59] morning [23:59] y0 mrselfpwn [23:59] hey nooper [23:59] yo, fire|bird [23:59] :) [23:59] fire|bird, you broke the 'morning's [23:59] lol [23:59] dive: I use zsh and no colors set there, Hmm, Xdefaults, let me check. [23:59] dive: sorry. :( [23:59] morning has broken? [00:00] really, I didn't mean to. [00:00] --- Wed Jul 29 2009